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"velazquez city council" Discussed on KNST AM 790

"And say, the keyword free bottle. Bill James works for the vises the Boston Red Sox. And and so it is that he spends a lot of his time in the sports world leaned was talking before the top of the hour about the difference between being in that sort of positive place with very positive energy around people involved doing positive community things and writing from the train because he likes to write about crime. So do you want to finish that? You're you're fading out. I was not able to hear a lot of them. I'm fading out. No can have that. I was just saying that you were presenting dichotomy of. Working in the sports world in by day and writing crime at night. Yeah. The guy was saying that crime stories are fascinating too. It's because they they come from the parts of ourselves. So we don't like to talk about. And don't normally talk about in the specific case of the man the train. I didn't make a deliberate and thoughtful entry into the subject, I just got hooked like a fish. I was I was I saw a documentary about the murders in blest guy called bliscoll living with a mystery. It's an extremely well done documentary and far above normal levels of crime documentary. I was interested in it. And it was clear that there was a part of the story that was missing which is that it's relatively obvious that the bullets converters are a part of a series. So I started going to put an hour into into trying to learn more about the series. But the the hour became a week and the week eventually became. Five or six years. They I didn't I didn't decide to get into it. I just wandered into it. It shows you you can do you consider this a true crime book? Sure. Yes. It is. Yeah. And that's the interesting piece too. Is that true crime? The tradition for true crime is I discovered in my research goes all the way back to execution sermons. Right. Sort of shares a similar DNA with American journalism. Except that in the case of true crime. You know, it was the it was the preachers who was the circuit writing preachers, the ministers that would come to these towns in on the day of somebody's execution, and they would do a sermon just before the execution that we try to provide the context for why this person was being executed in wide the community overall would benefit from his or her death. It became an important part of trying to understand executions in America. And and this is where when the preachers decided there they used to just print up their sermons and people would snap them up. And then he thought well heck this to sell it for a nickel. And so they started to sell their execution sermons, and then they would get passed around and these became some of the early bestselling true crime narratives, it fulfills the same function is what you're doing in in the man from the train you're trying to bring in even though it's a hundred plus years later, in some cases, you're trying to bring a kind of a kind of healing. Anyway, not that anybody's still alive that was directly involved, but for these communities, maybe this this lingering sense of some tragedy that had happened. Maybe some closure. An exactly what happened to their town. And how their town was involved or not involved in the deaths of of somebody that at one point. You know, we're popular members of the community the. That happened just a few weeks ago. I actually got a letter from a man in London England who was a a his great great and had been was one of the victims of the crime interest. He had always believed that the man who was accused of her murder and was locked up without any evidence for two years before he was released. He always believed that he had gotten away with it. And he said that reading it in my book that in our book that it wasn't. That was not actually what had happened was just a tremendous relief to him. That was a shock to me. I hadn't thought about. But it was it was a shot. He said he was tremendously relieved to realize that it was just a random crime. And that this man hadn't actually that man hadn't actually gotten away with it was this other fellow, and I don't know why it was important to him. Well, I I understand. Understanding the sense. It was important to to know what had happened. But you know, one guy getting away with it or another guy getting away with it. Unpunished, I've I've I don't know there's a lot of difference. But he's still didn't have that reaction to it. Go ahead. No, please. No lot of the book. The book is about is is all all books. All good books are search for understanding. A lot of the book is is trying to get people to understand the America in which crimes occurred. They one hundred years ago, and I grew up in a small town very much like the crimes that these that these murders occurred in and I grew up in fifty sixty years ago. So it's sorta equidistant from me and them, and that's one reason that the story was powerful to me. But I am trying to get people to understand what what the criminal Justice system was like how fantastically primitive. It was. What how people lived that? They they lived rich meaningful lives. People in urban areas today think of people who lived in small towns one hundred years ago or often think of people who lived in spot has a hundred years ago. I was living these boring lies which nothing ever happened. All of the things that happened to you and me and people in our lives happened to people in small towns. I mean, they got married they felt love and got married, and they got divorced, and they started careers and got promoted and got fired and they moved and they went on long trips and brought back souvenirs, they they had entertainment. So they went to literally every night all of the things that happened to happen to us happened to them. And I was trying to create a a picture. Unfortunately, it is a picture of their deaths. So that's a terrible picture because they died terrible death. But also trying to create a picture of how they live, and and and give the reader an understanding of what it was like to be an American in a small town years ago. I think he did that very effectively. In fact, I think that's one of the interesting things about true crime in general is that the the focus can be on things which Rian Vert the inverted pyramid of journalism. And you can spend a lot more time on the things which are less important to telling the story in proper journalism. You can spend a lot more time talking about the atmosphere of a town or the the things that people eight or the way that houses were constructed or communities were laid out you can you can do that. And it brings a fresh context to these murders, you know, as opposed to the traditional way that the crimes are covered in in straight storytelling in journalism context. That's what I really like what you were doing, especially when you getting into the fabric of of these communities, and it is it. What is it always takes with me that elevates the point you were just making and that has to do with the the taco in the case of soccer fans. One of them. I think it was Sako had an alibi for the time of one of the crimes one of the crimes committed on December twenty fourth of I think nineteen nineteen or nineteen eighteen and he had a. He had with who said that on that particular date. He was delivering a to his neighbors in an Italian community a pickle deals because pickled eels were a delicacy that were eating on Christmas day. And there was there was there was conflict in testimony that said, no, no, no that couldn't have been done under Semper twenty-fourth because you never by the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on on ice. Rick couple of days before you eat them. The. It's a it's a tiny detail that you would never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian talian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories are these little there's a flash of light that illuminates the details of of something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. Yeah. I think that brings us very effectively Visca Iowa and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine one thousand nine hundred twelve. The lights were out in politica. Due to a a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company. So they had city lights and streetlights, but they were out and the town was in complete darkness this Sunday night. That was a church service. A Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims that the woman who was the head of the house after the. After the service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe the murders would would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity of your six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was plunged into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up anyway, re two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they.

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"velazquez city council" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

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09:59 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on Newsradio 1200 WOAI

"Have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on on ice for a couple of days before you eat them. The. It's a tiny detail that you would never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories are these little. There's a flash of light that illuminates the details of of. Something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. Yeah. I think that brings us very effectively volition Iowa, and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine nineteen twelve. The lights were out in politica. Due to a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company, so they had city lights and streetlights, but they were out and and the town was in complete darkness is this Sunday night. There was a church service. A Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims. The woman who is the head of the house after the. After the service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe the murders would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity just six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was plunged into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up anyway, re two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they walked home after the church service, and and the little girl spent the night with the their friend. The little girl is a member of the family on the morning of June. Ten no one is stirring around in the house. The. And the his brother finally comes and breaks into the house finds a couple of bodies and runs out of the house scraping. They bring the town marshal. And he is named as Hank Horton. Mr. Horton, courageously goes through the house. You have to understand. He has no reason to believe anything other than that. A crazed murderer is hiding somewhere in this house. He is a dark house. He's holding matches in front of him. With no gun no form of protection holding matches in front of in front of his himself going from room to room finding bodies eight dead bodies in the house and longtime house in a small, quiet. Western town, the and all of them hitting the head with an axe the access found as it usually is next to the body of a little girl. Imagine the train was a pervert. And he was interested in little little girl. Little girl was usually found in a in an attitude suggesting that she had been. She had been outraged after that the. In any case. The crime was not there was a great uproar as you can imagine. But the crime was not solved. Two years later at conman named in Walkerton came to Valenica and realized that he could sustain phony investigation of the crime by keeping people angry. He could keep donations coming in by keeping people angry. And he did that by accusing a very prominent local citizens Frank Jones. Of financing the crimes there isn't any chance in the world of Frank Jones was guilty or that he had any any connection to it. But this campaign to prosecute Frank Jones divided politica, and a horrible and unprecedented way the city fought over whether or not Jones did it or didn't do it for several years and became badly divided community, you know, families on one side of the line wouldn't play with families on the other side of the line. They wouldn't go to they wouldn't shop at their stores. They wouldn't wouldn't have anything to do with them. This battle lasted Alaska for even though. Welker. Stan was eventually run out of town in nineteen seventeen. The the battle went on for a long time and the hard feelings emanating from it. Persist in the city. I I would say to an extent that they persist to the present day. You mentioned the piece about the. The person in whipping up sentiment and making a false accusation to profit from it. And even that creates a pattern for all. Too often. How crime stories unsolved crime stories are treated yet at the same time. It speaks to the fact that there weren't cold-case police officers working the the crime still the crimes at that time might have been solved by after that period of time by somebody writing a letter confessing or somebody knowing somebody that wasn't it went to almost literally like fall in their lap, which again comes back to the the power of storytelling and how key but just by keeping by telling a story beginning middle and end of these events. It doesn't matter. How old the story is is that it will get people to listen again and to reconsider again and most likely to connect again to that sense of outrage about what had happened. And so a static police report. Won't necessarily anger people. But when you start telling the story again, people are feeling, yeah. Yeah. That's right. And and that's but also keeps kind of the idea of the murder alive. It makes it it gives you a sensation. Again, that is the core of sensationalism. But it does it makes it of make you feel it again, the fact that this crime in happened had they had they built a any kind of memorial to the family had there been any had there been what had the town done to try to come to grips with the fact that this murder had happened prior to even this conmen coming to town or afterward. The well there was I don't know that there was that kind of San about. I don't know that anyone built a memorial to them. For many years of Alaska. Authorities and I would say this is still true today that peop- the the chamber of commerce types types in Velasco wished to ballista was known for something else. Right. The there is a the house where the crime occurred is still standing and is operated as a kind of of tourism. It's it's shows up on paranormal TV shows and people pay to take tours of the house the, but if you drive around the list go there's no sign anywhere. That says where the house is that we assign saying where the doctor's house has. But that but where the what is known for is not mentioned anywhere. The that's not an appropriate. I it goes without saying that that's not an appropriate memorial. I don't know that it you raise an interesting question. I don't know that in any of these cases there was a proper memorial to the victims victims were mostly poor people Muslim people without. Without the more family was very well liked. They and the community thought well of them and the vigorous efforts to solve the crime were kind of memorial to them. But I don't think there was any physical memorial to them know, sometimes it's just a place where somebody always brings flowers. In an effort to try to. So it doesn't mean enough to be like a statue. But it is interesting. How communities will will sometimes do that? Because that is their way of honoring. So, but I think you mentioned the economics piece that explains everything that that's one of the reasons why it's usually prominent citizens that enjoy that kind of status. The one of one of the national chains crimes. The double murder in Colorado Springs, emerged two families in one night and adjoining houses the, but if you if you go to that community where that happened. Now, the people in that area is still remember it. It's still they they could tell ya. Oh, that's a house right there. It's still it has not forgotten many.

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"velazquez city council" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

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02:30 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"By the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on on ice for a couple of days before you eat them. The it's a it's a tiny detail that you would never never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian talian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories are these little. There's a flash of light. That eliminates the details of of. Something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. I think that brings us very effectively to Visca Iowa, and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine one thousand nine hundred twelve the lights were out in Felicita due to a a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company, so they had city lights and street lights, but they were out and the town was in complete darkness is this Sunday night. That was a church service. I a Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims. The woman who was the head of the house after the. After the service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe the voice murders would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity just six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have. Had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was plunged into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up anyway, re two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they walked home after the church service, and and the little girl spent the night with their friends. The little.

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"velazquez city council" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

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16:01 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on KLBJ 590AM

"And say, the keyword free bottle. Bill James works for the advisers the Boston Red Sox. And and so it is that he spends a lot of his time in the sport swirling was talking before the top of the hour, but the difference between being in that sort of positive place with very positive energy around people involved doing positive community things and writing them from the train because he likes to write about crime. So do you want to finish that? You're you're painting out the and I was not able to hear a lot of them. I'm fading out. No can have that. Just saying that you were presenting a dichotomy of working in the sports world it by day writing crime. But night, the was saying that crime stories are fascinating too. It's because they they come from the parts of ourselves that we don't like to talk about. And don't my talk about in the specific case of the man the train. I didn't make a deliberate and thoughtful entry into the subject, I just got up like a fish. I was I was I saw documentary about the murders. Invalid guy called burlesque leading with a mystery. It's an extremely well done documentary and far above normal levels of crime documentary. I was interested in it. And it was clear that there was a part of the story that was missing which is that it's relatively obvious that the bliscoll murders are a part of a series. So I started going. Going to put an hour into into trying to learn more about the series. But the the hour became a week and the week eventually became five or six years. They I didn't I didn't decide to get into it. I just wandered into it. It shows you. Can do you consider this a true crime book? Sure. Yes. It is. And that's the interesting piece is that true crime. The tradition for true crime is I discovered in my research goes all the way back to execution sermons. Right. Sort of shares a similar DNA with American journalism. Except that in the case of true crime. It was the it was the preachers who was the circuit writing preachers administers that would come to these towns in on the day of somebody's execution, and they would do a sermon just before the execution that would try to provide the context for why this person was being executed in wide the community overall would benefit from his or her death. And became an important part of trying to understand executions in America. And and this is where when the preachers decided there they used to just print up their sermons and people would snap them up. And then he thought well heck this to sell it for a nickel. And so they started to sell their execution sermons. And then they would get passed around these became some of the early bestselling true crime narratives, it fulfills the same function is what you're doing in in the man from the train you're trying to bring in even though it's a hundred plus years later, in some cases, you're trying to bring a kind of a kind of healing. Anyway, not that anybody's still alive that was directly involved, but for these communities, maybe this this lingering sense of some tragedy that had happened. Maybe some closure. An exactly what happened to their town. And how their town was involved or not involved in in the deaths of of somebody at one point. You know, we're popular members of the community. The. There was an interesting that happened just a few weeks ago. I actually got a letter from a man in London England who was a a his great great and had been was one of the victims of the crime interesting. He had always believed that the man who was accused of her murder and was locked up without any evidence for two years before he was released as he always believed that he had gotten away with it. And he said that reading it in my book that and our book that it wasn't. That was not actually what had happened was just a tremendous relief to him. That was a shock to me. I hadn't thought about. But it was it was a shot. He said he was just tremendously relieved to realize that it was just a random crime. And that this man had actually that madman Manhattan actually gotten away with it was this other fellow, and I don't know why it was important to him. Well, I I understand. I understand that it was important to to know what had happened, but you know, one guy getting away with it or another guy getting away with it. Unpunished, I've I've I don't know that there's a lot of different. But he's still have that reaction to that. Go ahead. Please no book book is about is is all all books. All good books. Our search for understanding a lot of the book is is trying to get people to understand the America in which these crimes occurred they could a hundred years ago, and I grew up in a small town very much like the crimes that these that these murdered occurred in and I grew up in fifty sixty years ago. So it's the equidistant from me and them, and that's one reason that the story was powerful to me. But I am trying to get people to understand what what the criminal Justice system is like how fantastically primitive. It was what the what how people lived that. They they lived rich meaningful lives. People in urban areas today think of people who lived in small towns one hundred years ago or often people who lived in a hundred years ago. I was living these boring lives which nothing ever happened. All of the things that happened to you and me and people in our lives happen to people in small towns. I mean, they got married they fell in love and got married, and they got divorced, and they started careers and got promoted and got fired and they moved and they went on long trips and brought back souvenirs. They they had entertainment that they went to literally every night all of the things that that happened to happen to us happened to them. And I was trying to create a picture. Unfortunately, it is a picture of their death. So that's a terrible picture because they die terrible death. But also is trying to create a picture of how they live and and give the reader. An understanding of what it was like to be an American in a small town. Years ago. Did that very effectively? In fact, I think that's one of the interesting things about true crime in general is that the the focus can be on things which Rian Vert the inverted pyramid of journalism. And you can spend a lot more time on the things which are less important to telling the story in proper journalism. You can spend a lot more time talking about the atmosphere of a town or the the things that people eight or the way that houses were constructed or communities were laid out you can you can do that. And it brings a fresh context to these murders. You know, as opposed to the traditional way that that crimes are covered in in straight storytelling in journalism context. That's what I really like what you were doing especially when you were getting into the fabric of of these communities. The incident that always takes with me. Illustrates the point just making and that has to do with the the case asako vans. Eddie. One of them. I think it was Sako. Had an alibi for the time of one of the crimes what are the crimes committed on December twenty four th of I think nineteen nineteen or nineteen eighteen and he had a. He had witnesses who said that on that particular date. He was delivering a to his neighbors in an Italian community. A pickle eels because tickled eels were a delicacy that were eaten on Christmas day. And there were there was. But there was conflict testimony that said, no, no, no that couldn't have been done on December twenty four th because you never by the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on an ice for a couple of days before you eat them, the it's a it's a tiny detail that you wouldn't. Would never never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true Italian talian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories are they're these little business flash of light. That eliminates the details of. Something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. Yeah. I think that brings us very effectively to volition Iowa, and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine one thousand nine hundred twelve. The lights were out in Paliska due to a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company. So they had city lights and streetlights, but they were out and the town was complete darkness. This Sunday night. That was a church service. A Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims that the woman who was the head of the house after the. After this servant. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe the murders would ever have happened when they did at the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity just six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have. Had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was punched into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up. Anyway, really the two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they walked home after the church service, and and the little girl spent the night with their friends. The little girl is a member of the family on the morning of June. Ten no one is stirring around in the house. The and the his brother finally comes and breaks into the house finds a couple of bodies and runs out of the house scraping. They bring the town marshal. And he is name has Hank Horton. This Horton courageously goes through the house. You have to understand. He has no reason to believe anything other than. That a crazed murderer is hiding somewhere in this house. He as a dark house he's holding matches in front of him. With no gun. Didn't know former protection owning matches in front of a front of his himself going from room to room. Finding bodies are eight dead bodies in the house and long towels in a small quiet, but western town, the and all of them hitting the head with an axe the access found as it usually is next to the body of a little girl. Imagine the train was a pervert. And he was interested in little little girl. Little girl was usually found in a in an attitude suggesting that she had been. She had been outraged after death the. In any case. The crime was not there was a great uproar as you can imagine. But the crime was not solved. Two years later at conman named Jay in Walkerton came to Alaska and realized that he could sustain a phony investigation of the crime by keeping people angry. He could keep donations coming in keeping people angry, and he did that by accusing a very prominent local citizen. Frank Jones of financing the crimes. There isn't any chance in the world of Frank Jones was guilty or that he had any any connection to it. But this campaign to prosecute Frank Jones divided Felicita in a horrible and unprecedented way the city fought over whether or not Jones did it or didn't do it for several years and became came badly divided communities, you know, families on one side of the line wouldn't play with families on the other side of the line. They wouldn't go that they wouldn't shop at their stores. They wouldn't have anything to do with them. This battle lasted ballista for even though. Wilkerson was eventually run out of town in nineteen seventeen. The the battle went on for a long time and the hard feelings emanating from it. Persist in the city. I would I would say to an extent that they persist to the present day. You mentioned the piece about the the person in whipping up sentiment in making a false accusation to profit from it. And even that creates a pattern for all. Too often. How crime stories unsolved crime stories are treated yet at the same time. It it speaks to the fact that there weren't cold-case police officers working the crime still the crimes at that time might have been stalled by after that period of time by somebody writing a letter confessing or somebody knowing somebody that wasn't it went to almost literally flake fall in their lap, which again comes back to the the power of storytelling and how key but just by keeping by telling a story the beginning middle and end of these events. It doesn't matter. How old the story is is that it will get people to listen again and to reconsider again and most likely to connect again to that sense of outrage about what had happened..

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"velazquez city council" Discussed on KTOK

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13:36 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on KTOK

"You listened the more, you know, NewsRadio one thousand KT. Okay. Oklahoma's first news. Bill James works for the advisers the Boston Red Sox. And so it is that he spends a lot of his time in the sports world leaned was talking before the top of the hour, but the difference between being in that sort of positive place with very positive energy around people involved doing positive community things and writing from the train because he likes to write about crime. So do you want to finish that? You're you're fading out. The and I was not able to hear a lot of them. I'm fading out. No can have that. I was just saying that you were presenting a dichotomy of working in the sports world by day and writing crime at night. Yeah. The was saying that crime stories are fascinating to us because they they come from the parts of ourselves. So we don't like to talk about. And don't normally talk about in the specific case of the man the train. I didn't make a deliberate and thoughtful entry into the subject, I just got hooked like a fish. I was I was I saw documentary about the murders. Envelopes guy called bliscoll living with a mystery. It's an extremely well done documentary and far above them, mama levels of crime documentary. I was interested in it. And it was clear that there was a part of the story that was missing which is that it's relatively obvious that the bliscoll murders are apart of a series. So I started going to put an hour into into trying to learn more about the series. But the the hour became we can can the week eventually became. Five or six years. They I didn't I didn't decide to get into it. I just wandered into it. It shows you. Do you consider this a true crime book? Sure. Yes. It is. Yeah. You know? And that's the interesting piece too. Is that true crime? The tradition for true. Crime is discovered in my research goes all the way back to execution sermons. Right. Sort of shares a similar DNA with American journalism. Except that indicates of true crime. It was the it was the preachers who was the circuit riding preachers. The ministers that would come to these towns in on the day of somebody's execution, and they would do a sermon just before the execution that we try to provide the context for why this person was being executed in wide the community overall would benefit from his or her death. It became an important part of trying to understand executions in America. And and this is where when the preachers decided there they used to just print up their sermons and people would snap them up. And then he thought well heck this to sell it for a nickel. And so they started to sell their execution sermons, and then they would get passed around and these became some of the early bestselling true crime narratives, it fulfills the same function is what you're doing in in the man from the train you're trying to bring in even though it's a hundred plus years later, in some cases, you're trying to bring a kind of a kind of healing. Anyway, not that anybody's still alive that was directly involved, but for these communities, maybe this this lingering sense of some tragedy that had happened. Maybe some closure. On an exactly what happened to their town. And how their town was involved or not involved in the deaths of of somebody that at one point. You know, we're popular members of the community. The. There was an interesting that happened just a few weeks ago. I actually got a letter from a man in London England who was a a his great great and had been was one of the victims of the crime interest. Here at always believed that the man who was accused of her murder and was locked up without any evidence for two years before he was released as he always believed that he had gotten away with it. And he said that reading it in my book that in our book that it wasn't. That was not actually what had happened was just a tremendous relief to him. That was a shock to me. I hadn't thought about. But it was it was a shot. You said he was just tremendously relieved to realize that it was just a random crime. And that this man hadn't actually that that man hadn't actually gotten away with it was this other fellow, and I don't know why it was important to him. Who I am? Understand the sense. It was important to have to know what had happened. But you know, one guy getting away with it or another guy getting away with it. I'm punished. I I don't know that there's a lot of difference. But he's still did have that reaction to it. Yeah. Go ahead, please. No lot of the book book is about is is all all books. All good books. Our search for understanding a lot of the book is is trying to get people to understand the America in which crimes occurred. They one hundred years ago, and I grew up in a small town very much like the crimes that these that these murders occurred in and I grew up in fifty sixty years ago. So it's sorta equidistant from me and them, and that's one reason that the story was powerful to me. But I am trying to get people to understand what what the criminal Justice system was like how fantastically primitive. It was the what how people lived that. They they lived rich meaningful lives. People in urban areas today think of people who lived in small towns one hundred years ago or often think of people who lived in small towns a hundred years ago, I was living these boring lives in which nothing ever happened. All of the things that happened to you and me million people in our lives happen to people in small towns. I mean, they got married they fell in love and got married, and they got divorced, and they started careers and got promoted and got fired they moved and they went on long trips and brought back souvenirs, they they had entertainment. So they went to literally every night all of the things that that happened to happen to us happened to them, and I was trying to create a a picture. Unfortunately, it is a picture of their deaths. So that's a terrible picture because they died terrible deaths, but also trying to create a picture of how they live and and and give the reader. An understanding of what it was like to be an American in a small town. Years ago. Did that very effectively? In fact, I think that's one of the interesting things about true crime in general is that the the focus can be on things which. Rian Vert the inverted pyramid of journalism. And you can spend a lot more time on the things which are less important to telling the story in proper journalism. You can spend a lot more time talking about the atmosphere of town or the the things that people eight or the way that houses were constructed or communities were laid out you can you can do that. And it brings a fresh context to these murders. You know, as opposed to the traditional way that that crimes are covered in in straight storytelling in journalism context. That's what I really like what you were doing especially when you're getting into the fabric of of these communities. What is it that always sticks? With me that illustrates the point you were just making and that has to do with the chocolate cases SoKo event. One of them. I think it was Sako had an alibi for the time of one of the crimes what are the crimes committed on December twenty four th of I think nineteen nineteen or nineteen eighteen and he had a. He had witnesses who said that on that particular date. He was delivering a to his neighbors in an Italian community a pickle deals because pickled eels were a delicacy that were eating on Christmas day. And there were there was, but there was conflicting testimony that said, no, no, no that couldn't have been done on December twenty four th because you never by the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on on ice for a couple of days before you eat them. The it's a it's a tiny detail that you would never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian talian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. Stories are these little there's a flash of light that illuminates the details of of. Something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. I think that brings us very effectively to volition Iowa, and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The the communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine one thousand nine hundred twelve. The lights were out in politica. Due to a a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company, so they had city lights and street lights, but they were out and and the town was in complete darkness is this Sunday night. There was a church service Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims. The woman who was the head of the house after the. After the service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe murderers would would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity of just six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have. Had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was plunged into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up anyway, re two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they walked home after the church service, and and the little girl spent the night with the their friend. The little girl is a member of the family on the morning of June. Ten no one is stirring around in the house. The and the his brother finally comes and breaks into the house finds a couple of bodies and runs out of the house scraping. They bring the town marshal. And he is name, Hank Horton. Mr. Horton, courageously goes through the house. You have to understand. He has no reason to believe anything other than that. A crazed murderer is hiding somewhere in this house. It is a dark house. He's holding matches in front of him. With no gun to no form of protection holding matches in front of in front of his himself going from room to room finding bodies. There are eight dead bodies in the house and longhouse in a small quiet, but western town, the and all of them hitting the head with an axe the access found as it usually is next to the body of a little girl. Imagine the train was a pervert. And he was interested in little little girl. Little girl was usually found in a in an attitude suggesting that she had been. She had been outraged after death the. In any case. The crime was not there was a great uproar as you can imagine. But the crime was not solved. Two years later at conman named Jay and Walkerton came to Valenica and realized that he could sustain a phony investigation of the crime by keeping people angry..

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11:24 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on WLAC

"Bill James works for the advisers. The Boston Red Sox. And so it is that he spends a lot of his time in the sports where linguists talking before the top of the hour about the difference between being in that sort of positive place with very positive energy around people involved doing positive community things and writing the man from the train because he likes to write about crime. So do you want to finish that? You're you're fading out. The and I was not able to hear a lot of them. I'm fading out. No can have that. I was just saying that you were presenting a dichotomy of. Working in the sports world it by day and writing crime at night. Yeah. The guy was saying that crime stories are fascinating too. It's because they they come from the parts of ourselves. So we don't like to talk about. And don't normally talk about the specific case of the man the train. I didn't make a deliberate and thoughtful entry into the subject, I just got hooked like a fish. I was I was I saw a documentary about the murders. Invalid sky called Velasco living with a mystery. It's an extremely well done documentary and far above normal levels of crime documentary. I was interested in it. And it was clear that there was a part of the story that was missing which is that it's relatively obvious that the bliscoll murders are a part of a series. So I started going to put an hour into into trying to learn more about the series. But the the hour became a week and the week eventually became five. Five or six years. They I didn't I didn't decide to get into it. I just wondered into it. It shows you. Do you consider this a true crime book? Sure. Yes. It is. You know? And that's the interesting piece too. Is that true crime? The tradition for true crime is I discovered in my research goes all the way back to execution sermons. Right. Sort of shares a similar DNA with American journalism. Except that in the case of true crime. It was the it was the preachers. It was the circuit riding preachers. The ministers that would come to these towns in on the day of somebody's execution, and they would do a sermon just before the execution that would try to provide the context for why this person was being executed in why the community overall would benefit from his or her death. It became an important part of trying to understand executions in America. And and this is where when the preachers decided there they used to just print up their sermons and people would snap them up. And then he thought well heck this I'll just sell it for a nickel. And so they started to sell their execution sermons, and then they would get passed around and these became some of the early bestselling true crime narratives, it fulfills the same function is what you're doing in in the man from the train you're trying to bring in even though it's a hundred plus years later, in some cases, you're trying to bring a kind of a kind of healing. Anyway, not that anybody's still alive that was directly involved, but for these communities, maybe this this lingering sense of some tragedy that had happened. Maybe some closure. An exactly what happened to their town. And how their town was involved or not involved in the deaths of of somebody that one point, you know, we're popular members of the community. The. There was an interesting that happened just a few weeks ago. I actually got a letter from a man in London England who was a a his great great and had been was one of the victims of the crime always believed that the man who was accused of her murder and was locked up without any evidence for two years before he was released. He always believed that he had gotten away with it. And he said that reading it in my book that in our book that it wasn't. That was not actually what had happened was just a tremendous relief to him. That was a shock to me. I hadn't thought about. But it was it was a shot. You said he was just tremendously relieved to realize that it was just a random crime. And that this man hadn't actually that man hadn't actually gotten away with it was this other fellow, and I don't know why it was important to him. Who I? I understand the sense. It was important to know what had happened. But you know, one guy getting away with it or another guy getting away with it. I'm punished is. I I don't know that there's a lot of different. But you still have that reaction to it. Yeah. I think go ahead. Please no book book is about is is all all books. All good books. Our search for understanding a lot of the book is is trying to get people to understand the America in which these crimes occurred. They Kerr two hundred years ago and. I grew up in a small town very much like the crimes that these that these murders occurred in and I grew up in fifty sixty years ago. So it's sorta equidistant from me in them. And that's one reason that the story was powerful to me. But I am trying to get people to understand what what the criminal Justice system was like how fantastically primitive. It was. What how people lived that? They lived rich meaningful lives. People in urban areas today think of people who lived in small towns one hundred years ago or often think of people who lived in small towns a hundred years ago, I was living these boring lives, which nothing ever happened. All of the things that happened to you and me and people in our lives happen to people in small towns. I mean, they got married they fell in love and got married, and they got divorced, and they started careers and got promoted and got fired and they moved and they went on long trips and brought back souvenirs, they they had entertainment. So they went to literally every night all of the things that happened to happen to us happened to them, and I was trying to create a a picture. Unfortunately, it is a picture of their death. So that's a terrible picture because they died terrible deaths and also is trying to create a picture of how they live and and give the reader. An understanding of what it was like to be an American in a small town. Years ago. You did that very effectively. In fact, I think that's one of the interesting things about in general is that the the focus can be on things which. Rian Vert the inverted pyramid of journalism. And you can spend a lot more time on the things which are less important to telling the story in proper journalism. You can spend a lot more time talking about the atmosphere of a town or the the things that people eight or the way that houses were constructed or communities were laid out you can you can do that. And it brings a fresh context to these murders. You know, as opposed to the traditional way that that crimes are covered in in straight storytelling in journalism context. That's what I really like what you were doing especially when you getting into the fabric of of these communities. What is that always sticks with me that the point you were just making and that has to do with the soccer, the case asako and vans? Eddie. One of them. I think it was Sako had an alibi for the time of one of the crimes what are the crimes committed on December twenty four th of I think one thousand nine hundred ninety nine hundred eighteen and he had a he had witnesses who said that on that particular day. He was delivering a to his neighbors in Italian community a tickle deals because pickled eagles were a delicacy that were eating on Christmas day. And there was there was. But there was conflict and testimony that said, no, no, no that couldn't have been done under Semper twenty-fourth because you never by the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on on ice for a couple of days before you eat them. The. It's a tiny detail that you would. It would never never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian as a way that talion American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories are there. These little there's a flash of light. That eliminates the details of of something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. I think that brings us very effectively to ballista Iowa, and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine one thousand nine hundred twelve. The lights were out in Felicita due to a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company. So they had city lights and streetlights, but they were out and the town was in complete darkness the Sunday night. That was a church service a Sunday night, check service organized by one of the victims. The woman who was the head of the house after the. After this service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe the murders would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was punched into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up anyway, re two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they.

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11:37 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on KFI AM 640

"Bottle. KFI AM six forty. More stimulating talk. Bill James works for the advisers. The Boston Red Sox. And so it is that he spends a lot of his time in the sports world linguists talking before the top of the hour about the difference between being in that sort of positive place with very positive energy around people involved doing positive community things and writing from the train because he likes to write about crime. So do you want to finish that? You're you're painting out the and I was not able to hear a lot of them. I'm fading out. No can have that. I was just saying that you were presenting a dichotomy of. Working in the sports world it by day and writing crime that night. The saying that crime stories are fascinating too. Because they they come from the parts of ourselves. So we don't like to talk about and going on my talk about in the specific case of the man the train. I didn't make a deliberate and thoughtful entry into the subject, I just got up like a fish. I was I was I saw a documentary about the murders in blue sky called living with a mystery. It's an extremely well done documentary and far above them, mama levels of crime documentary. I was interested in it. And it was clear that there was a part of the story that was missing which is that it's relatively obvious bliscoll murderers are a part of a series. So I started going to put an hour into into trying to learn more about the series. But the the hour became a we can the week eventually became. Five or six years. They I didn't I didn't decide to get into it. I just wandered into. It shows you. You can do you consider this a true crime book? Sure. Yes. Yeah. And that's the interesting piece too. Is that true crime? The tradition for true crime is I discovered in my research goes all the way back to execution sermons. Right. Sort of shares a similar DNA with American journalism. Except that indicates of true crime. You know, it was the it was the preachers. It was the circuit writing preachers, the ministers that would come to these towns in on the day of somebody's execution, and they would do a sermon just before the execution that would try to provide the context for why this person was being executed in why the community overall would benefit from his or her death. And. Became an important part of trying to understand executions in America. And and this is where when the preachers decided there they used to print up their sermons and people would snap them up. And then he thought well heck this to sell it for a nickel. And so they started to sell their execution sermons, and then they would get passed around and these became some of the early bestselling true crime narratives, it fulfils the same function is what you're doing in in the man from the train you're trying to bring in even though it's a hundred plus years later, in some cases, you're trying to bring a kind of a kind of healing. Anyway, not that anybody's still alive that was directly involved, but for these communities, maybe this this lingering sense of some tragedy that had happened. Maybe some closure. On an exactly what happened to their town. And how their town was involved or not involved in the deaths of of somebody that at one point. You know, we're popular members of the community. The. Happened just a few weeks ago. I actually got a letter from a man in London England who was a a great great and had been one of the victims of the crime interest. Here always believed that the man who was accused of her murder and was locked up without any evidence for two years before he was released. He always believed that he had gotten away with it. And he said that reading it in my book that yearbook that it wasn't. That was not actually what had happened was just a tremendous relief to him. That was a shock to me. I hadn't thought about. But it was it was you said he was tremendously relieved to realize that it was just a random crime. And that this man hadn't actually that that van haven't actually gotten away with this other fellow, and I don't know why it was important to him. Well, I I understand I understand that it was important to have to know what had happened. But you know, one guy getting away with it or another guy getting away with it. Unpunished, I've I've I don't know that there's a lot of difference. But he's still did have that reaction to it. Yeah. No, no, please. No lot of the book. Book is about is is all all books. Authored books are search for understanding. A lot of the book is is trying to get people to understand the America in which these crimes occurred Baker two hundred years ago, and I grew up in a small town very much like the crimes that these that these murders occurred in and I grew up in fifty sixty years ago. So it's sorta equidistant from me and them, and that's one reason that the story was powerful to me. But I am trying to get people to understand what what the criminal Justice system was like how fantastically primitive. It was the. What how people lived? They lived rich meaningful lives. People in urban areas today think of people who lived in small towns one hundred years ago or often think of people who lived in a hundred years ago living these boring lives, which nothing ever happened. All of the things that happened to you and me and people in our lives happened to people in small towns. I mean, they they got married I fell in love and got married, and they got divorced, and they started careers and got promoted and got fired and they moved and they went on long trips and brought back souvenirs, they they had entertainment. So they went to literally every night all of the things that happened to happen to us happened to them, and I was trying to create a a picture. Unfortunately, it is a picture of their death. So that's a terrible picture because they died terrible deaths, but also trying to create a picture of how they live and and give the reader. An understanding of what it was like to be in a small town. Years ago. Did that very effectively? In fact, I think that's one of the interesting things about true crime in general is that the the focus can be on things which. Rian Vert the inverted pyramid of journalism. And you can spend a lot more time on the things which are less important to telling the story in proper journalism. You can spend a lot more time talking about the atmosphere of town or the the things that people eight or the way that houses were constructed or communities were laid out you can you can do that. And it brings a fresh context to these murders. You know, as opposed to the traditional way that the crimes are covered in in straight storytelling in journalism context. That's what I really like what you were doing especially when you were getting into the fabric of these communities. What is it always takes with bated illustrates the point you were just making and that has to do with the taco in case asako and dams, Debbie. One of them. I think it was Sako. Had an alibi for the time of one of the crimes what are the crimes committed on their Semper? Twenty four of I think nineteen nineteen or nineteen eighteen and he had a. He had witnesses who said that on that particular day. He was delivering a to his neighbors in Italian community, a tickle deals because tickle deals were a delicacy that were eating on Christmas day. And there was but there was conflict we testimony that said, no, no, no that couldn't have been done under similar twenty four because you're never by the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them on ice for a couple of days before you eat them. The it's a it's a tiny detail that you would never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian as a way that the talian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories are these little there's a flash of light. That eliminates the details of of. Something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. I think that brings us very effectively to volition Iowa, and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine thousand nine hundred twelve. The lights were out in Paliska due to a a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company. So they had city lights and streetlights, but they were out and the town was complete darkness the Sunday night. There was a church service. A Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims. The woman who was the head of the house after the. After the service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe the murders would would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have. Had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was plunged into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up. Anyway, re the two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they.

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11:40 min | 2 years ago

"velazquez city council" Discussed on WCBM 680 AM

"Say the keyword free bottle. Bill James works for the advises the Boston Red Sox. And so it is that he spends a lot of his time in the sport swirling was talking before the top of the hour about the difference between being in that sort of positive place with very positive energy around people involved doing positive community things and writing from the train because he likes to write about crime. So you want to finish that? You're you're fading out. The and I was not able to hear a lot of them. I'm fading out. No can have that just saying that you were presenting a dichotomy of. Working in the sports world by day and writing crime at night. Yeah. The saying that crime stories are fascinating too. It's because they they come from the parts of ourselves that we don't like to talk about. And don't really talk about in the specific case of the man the train. I didn't make a deliberate and thoughtful entry into the subject, I just got up like a fish. I was I was I saw a documentary about the murders. Invalid guy called Velasco letting with a mystery. It's an extremely well done documentary far above the normal levels of crime documentary. I was interested in it. And it was clear that there was a part of the story that was missing which is that it's relatively obvious that the bliscoll murders are a part of a series. So I started I was just going to put an hour into and to try to learn more about the series, but the the hour became a week and the week eventually became five. Five or six years. I didn't I didn't decide to get into it. I just wandered into chose. You. You can you consider this a true crime book? Sure. Yes. It is. Yeah. And that's the interesting piece too. Is that true crime? The tradition for true crime is I discovered in my research goes all the way back to execution sermons. Right. Sort of shares a similar DNA with American journalism. Except that in the case of true crime. It was the it was the preachers who was the circuit writing preachers. Ministers would come to these towns on the day of somebody's execution, and they would do a sermon just before the execution that would try to provide the context for why this person was being executed in why the community overall would benefit from his or her death, and it became an important part of trying to understand executions in America. And and this is where when the preachers decided they used to just print up their sermons and people would snap them up. And then he thought well heck this to sell it for a nickel. And so they started to sell their execution sermons. And then they would get passed around these became some of the early bestselling true crime narratives, it fulfills the same function is what you're doing in in the man from the train. You're trying to bring in even though. One hundred plus years later, in some cases, you're trying to bring a kind of a kind of healing. Anyway, not that anybody's still alive that was directly involved, but for these communities, maybe this this lingering sense of some tragedy that it happened. Maybe some closure. On an exactly what happened to their town. And how their town was involved or not involved in the deaths of somebody that at one point. You know, we're popular members of the community. That happened just a few weeks ago. I actually got a letter from a man in London England who was a a great great and had been was one of the victims of the crime interest. Here had always believed that the man who was accused of her murder and was locked up without any evidence for two years before he was released as he had always believed that he had gotten away with it. And he said that reading it in my book that in our book that it wasn't. That was not actually what had happened was just a tremendous relief to him. That was a shock to me. I hadn't thought about. But it was it was a shot. He said he was tremendously relieved to realize that it was just a random crime. And that this man hadn't actually that madman hadn't actually gotten away with it was this other fellow, and I don't know why it was important to him. Who I understand? Understanding the sense. It was important to to know what had happened, you know, one guy getting away with it or another guy getting away with it. Unpunished, I've I've I don't know that there's a lot of difference. But he's still did have that reaction to that. Go ahead. Oh, please. No. Book book is about is is all all books. All good books are search for understanding a lot of the book is is trying to get people to understand the America in which these crimes occurred. They Kerr two hundred years ago and. I grew up in a small town very much like the crimes that these that these murders occurred in and I grew up in fifty sixty years ago. So it's sorta equidistant from me and them, and that's one reason that the story was powerful to me. But I am trying to get people to understand what what the criminal Justice system is like how fantastically primitive. It was the what how people lived that. They they lived rich meaningful lives. People in urban areas today think of people who lived in small towns one hundred years ago or often think of people who lived in small towns a hundred years ago, I was living these boring lives in which nothing ever happened. All of the things that happened to you and million people in our lives happen to people in small towns. I mean, they they got married they sell above and got married, and they got divorced, and they started careers and got promoted and got fired they moved and they went on long trips and brought back souvenirs. They they had entertainment. So they went to literally every night all of the things that that happened to happen to us happened to them, and I was trying to create a a picture. Unfortunately, it is a picture of their deaths. So that's a terrible picture because they died terrible deaths, but also trying to create a picture of how they live and and and give the reader. Understanding of what it was like to be an American in a small town on two years ago. I think you did that very effectively. In fact, I think that's one of the interesting things about true crime in general is that the the focus can be on things which Rian Vert the inverted pyramid of journalism, and you can spend a lot more time on the things which are less important to telling the story in proper journalism. You can spend a lot more time talking about the atmosphere of a town or the the things that people eight or the way that houses were constructed or their communities were laid out you can you can do that in and it brings a fresh context to these murders. You know, as opposed to the traditional way that that crimes are covered in in straight storytelling in journalism context. That's what I really like what you were doing especially when you're getting into the fabric of of these communities. What is it always with me that elevates the point you were just making and that has to do with the taco in the case asako invent Zeti? One of them. I think it was Sako. I had an alibi for the time of one of the crimes what are the crimes committed on December twenty four th of I think nineteen nineteen or nineteen eighteen and he had a. He had witnesses who said that on that particular day. He was delivering a to his neighbors in an Italian community a pickle eels because tickle deals were a delicacy that were eating on Christmas day. And there were there was, but there was conflict in testimony that said, no, no, no that couldn't have been done on December twenty four th because you never by the pickle deals on December on Christmas Eve, you have to buy them on December twenty second or something. So that you have time to prepare them and put them in on an ice wreck. Couple of days before you eat them. The it's a it's a tiny detail that you wouldn't would never never survive. I mean, you would never know that that was true of Italian talian American communities live two hundred years ago, except that it's important in a crime story. That's why crime stories. Are there are these little there's a flash of light that illuminates the details of? Something that would otherwise be totally forgotten. Yeah. I think that brings us very effectively to the Liska Iowa and the the crime story, which as you pointed out earlier is the one that starts to to give away. The communities are already catching on at this point to the fact that there's a killer on the railways take us take us through what happened invalid. On the night of June nine one thousand nine hundred twelve the lights were out in Felicita due to a dispute between the Velazquez city council and the power company, so they had city lights and streetlights, but they were out and the town was in complete darkness the Sunday night. There was a church service. A Sunday night church service organized by one of the victims. The woman who was the head of the house after the. After the service. I didn't get into this in the book. But I think it's true. I don't believe murderers would would ever have happened when they did had the lights been on. And the reason that was true is that he had committed another atrocity just six days earlier about a hundred miles away. And he normally would not have. Had another outrage that quickly, but because the lights the city was plunged into darkness. It was a perfect opportunity for him. And he couldn't pass it up. Anyway, re the two little girls named Anna Lena, still injure went home with a more family, the family of Henry Moore, they walked home after the church.

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