19 Episode results for "Vedra Beach"

September 3, 2019: Flight cancellations ramp up due to Hurricane Dorian

5 Things

06:06 min | 1 year ago

September 3, 2019: Flight cancellations ramp up due to Hurricane Dorian

"Hiring is challenging but there's one place you can go. We're hiring is simple and smart. That place is ziprecruiter where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. It's try it for free at ziprecruiter dot com slash five things ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire good morning. I'm taylor wilson in this is five things you need to know tuesday. The third of september twenty nineteen to get you started as hurricane doreen. Dan heads towards the east coast airline. Flight cancellations are set to reach well over a thousand for the second consecutive day. According to the flight tracking service flight aware that's on top of the nearly fifteen hundred canceled on labor day and florida airports remain the hardest hit with more than half of tuesday's cancellations going to or from orlando lando international airport but those with travel plans in the region are able to change their flights without the usual penalties. Meanwhile florida residents continue to brace for the storm ponza vedra beach resident flea rettig can't be foolish. She just have to be smart but you don't want to overreact. It's a lot of trouble and get ready and then nothing happens. Wrappings glad you think wow we went to all this trouble for nothing during his drop from category four to category three hurricane for now but the national hurricane mccain centers robbie burg says the storm remains a major door in a still stationary just to the north of grand bahama island about thirty miles north east of freeport the maximum the winter decrease slightly to one hundred twenty miles per hour but does this does still keep dorian has a major category three hurricane <hes> restore expecting destructive winds a very high storm surges along the coast to grand bahama island as route and for his part vice president mike pence speaking in ireland says to be prepared not for anything in our message to every american into all of those that are in the path of this storm is still listened to state and local emergency managers heed their warnings. Take necessary steps and be prepared for anything. This is a slow moving but extremely dangerous hurricane. New information is expected on tuesday after a deadly fire aboard a california boats. The santa barbara county office of emergency management will hold a press conference on tuesday morning at ten a._m. Pacific time to give an update on the commercial diving boat with dozens of passengers that sank early monday six crew members and thirty three passengers were asleep on the bottom deck at the time of the blaze. Five crew members were rescued near santa cruz while everyone else on board is feared dead ed as of late monday eight people were confirmed dead coast guard captain monica rochester. This isn't a day that we wanted to wake up to for labor day and it's a very tragic event and we will search all the way through the night into the morning but i think we all should be prepared <hes> to move into the the worst outcome. It's still unclear what sparked the fire next. <hes> british parliament is set for a major brexit vote. After a summer summer recess parliament will reconvene on tuesday and a vote is ready for tuesday night on whether to take a no deal brexit from the european union off the table legislation flation would be legally binding if it passes aimed at preventing johnson from taking britain out of the u. Without a formal exit deal on the october thirty first deadline if no withdrawal agreement agreement is reached with the e._u. Ahead of that deadline johnson has taken steps to suspend parliament giving lawmakers little time to push through legislation to prevent a disorderly european exit exit. Nearly one hundred teens from two rival high schools in west texas are coming together after a deadly shooting affected their communities students from odessa high school and permian in high school met on monday night to try to figure out how they can help the victims of saturday's mass shooting that left seven dead and twenty five wounded. The two schools have a legendary rivalry. The one that was outlined in the book film and later television series friday night lights seventeen-year-old brace mckennie a recent odessa high graduate organized the assembly and said the goal would beat to have a big fundraising event with proceeds going to those in need and last up the u._s. Open moves to the quarterfinals on tuesday with action in new york featuring into tennis legends six time open champ serena williams and five timer roger federer williams will play china's long shong while fed takes on bulgaria's grigore dmitrov rav as for serena. Her quest for another major got a big boost on sunday when top ranked and defending champ. Naomi osaka was eliminated. He can watch all the action on the e._s._p._n. Networks networks and follow along with u._s._a. Today sports and you can catch new episodes of five things monday through saturday on apple podcasts and wherever else you get your pods including the google go home and amazon echo. You can also subscribe for free and leave us a rating interview if you'd like five things as part of the u._s._a. Today podcast network hiring us to be hard but times have changed and lucky for us so as the hiring process no more stacks of resumes or confusing review processes nowadays as there's one place where hiring simple fast and smart ziprecruiter dot com slash five things ziprecruiter automatically sends your job to over. One hundred of the web's webs leading job boards so you don't have to and the help doesn't stop there. They're powerful matching technology scans thousands of resumes to find the people with the right experience for your role and and invites them to apply as applications come in ziprecruiter analyzes each one and spotlights the top candidates so you never miss a great match. Ziprecruiter is so effective effective that four out of five employers who post on the site get a quality candidate within the first day and right now listeners of five things can try ziprecruiter for free at this <unk> exclusive web address ziprecruiter dot com slash five things that ziprecruiter dot com slash the number five t h i n g s ziprecruiter ziprecruiter dot com slash five things ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire.

Ziprecruiter florida grand bahama island johnson taylor wilson odessa high school santa barbara county odessa orlando lando international ai california mike pence Dan european union freeport santa cruz vedra beach rettig serena williams vice president
NPR News: 09-03-2019 3AM ET

NPR News Now

05:15 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 09-03-2019 3AM ET

"This message comes from n._p._r. Sponsor xfinity some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like xfinity x. by get get fast speeds even when everyone is online working to make wifi simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply live from n._p._r. News in washington. I'm shay stevens hurricane during remains near the grand bahama an avocado island where it's been for hours after causing at least five deaths the national hurricane center says dorian has lost more strength. It is now a category three storm with maximum sustained winds of one hundred twenty five miles per hour bahamian prime minister hubert minnesota's the amount of hurricane devastation. There is unprecedented. There is an extraordinary amount of flooding and damage to infrastructure to report the united states guard is already radio underground and avocado as rescued a number of injured individuals. The national hurricane center says the during remains on track to move north along the southeastern united states ponte vedra beach florida resident jesse james says dorian remains on a path that similar to a 2017 hurricane arcane that did not come ashore because a lot of damage aftermath you what happened was we escaped all the winds but the storm surge kept coming <hes> and it got to where it was ten feet from the house. It was four feet from the house. It was in the house south carolina's governor henry mcmaster says the best way for coastal resonance to protect themselves as to heed evacuation orders is better to be safe than sorry and we don't want to be telling the new nobody. We told you so so we would be safe. Get away from the coast. Hundreds of thousands of people in florida. Georgia and south carolina are under evacuation relation orders in south carolina authorities are preparing southern california that is authorities are preparing for the worst as the death toll is expected to mount from a diving boat wrote accident. The associated press quoted the coastguard essay that that toll has risen to at least twenty five with nine still missing and feared dead. N._p._r.'s kirk siegler has more the charter boat the conception had thirty nine passengers and crew mostly scuba divers it sank early labor day morning just twenty yards off of santa cruz island which is about twenty miles off the mainland when the fire broke out several crew members were on the deck and were able to escape. Most everyone else is believed to have been below. Oh the deck asleep and possibly trapped. It's not yet clear why they couldn't be rescued. Authorities say there's no reason to indicate any foul play. According to the coast guard the boat was in full compliance with safety regulations. It's now sunk. Some sixty feet in the ocean. Were dive. Teams are combing the scene kirk siegler n._p._r. News santa barbara the taliban is taliban is claiming responsibility for bombing that killed at least sixteen people and wounded one hundred nineteen others yesterday in the afghan capital. The attack occurred while the special u._s. On voice for peace in afghanistan was in kabul outlining details of an agreement in principle with taliban. This is n._p._r. British lawmakers will decide today. Voters will be pushed another step closer to snap elections. It is the first part of a plan to block prime minister burst johnson from a no deal exit from the european union teri schultz reports from brussels boris. Johnson says he won't even consider asking the e. u. For an extension attention on the departure currently scheduled for october thirty first the opposition labor party and some members of johnson's own conservative party are trying to block brexit from happening as long as there's no agreement covering its terms dunton's countering that with the threat to call elections october fourteenth we will accent any attempt to go back komo promises. I didn't want action. You want an action. Let's get on with a people's agenda. Meanwhile the e. u. Is considering whether to classify a potential no the deal brexit as a natural disaster or emergency funds can be tapped to deal with what are expected to be costly disruptions in trade and transport for n._p._r. News i'm teri tilts in brussels. Thousands of hong kong high school and college students boycotted the first day of class monday to attend pro democracy rallies. There were a few skirmishes images but the protests was mostly peaceful. Although tensions remained high following weekend clashes between police and demonstrators the protests began in mid june in response to a controversial extradition bill. That's been suspended pro. Democracy demonstrators are now demanding greater autonomy from mainland china and an inquiry korea into police response to the unrest stock markets in asia shares closed mixed lower in hong kong. I'm shay stevens n._p._r. News in washington this. This message comes from n._p._r. Sponsor comcast business gig fueled network solutions that help businesses go beyond the expected to do the extraordinary sorry comcast business beyond fast learn more at comcast business dot com.

national hurricane center taliban comcast shay stevens south carolina kirk siegler prime minister johnson washington hurricane dorian brussels santa cruz island united states ponte vedra beach florida florida henry mcmaster
A New Silence in Golf

Coronavirus Sports

16:00 min | 8 months ago

A New Silence in Golf

"Welcome to sports. Illustrated's corona virus and sports. This is mismanaging. I today Gulf. We'll be talking to SL host and Gulf writer Ryan Celta as we discussed how the spread of covert nineteen led to the spearmint of the sport's biggest events and the impact. It's had on golf's biggest stars and passionate followers. The Corona virus has made large public gatherings in contained spaces a non option rendering most sports leaks inoperable but when you're sport is played alone on acres and acres of outdoor land is the impact Felton. Same Way Gulf was one of the last American sports to shut down due to the condemning. Couldn't also be one of the first to return. When the virus subsites joining us now is SL host and Gulf Right Orion Celta Ryan. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me Luiz. Good to be with you good to be with you to. Let's get straight into it Ryan. Let's start with some context for the casual fan. What was happening in the Gulf world when the Corona Virus started shutting down sports leagues around the country a lot was going on in the Gulf War the PGA tour was in the middle of its biggest event of the year. We know about the four majors right the masters the PJ championship British Open and the US Open but for the PGA tour itself. Their biggest event is the players championship. It's at their home headquarters in Ponte Vedra Beach Florida And that was going on the week. The Kerala virus hit Lot of decisions needed to be made. They decided to play the first round on that Thursday at Teepee Sawgrass With fans in attendance. If you remember Louise Professional Golf was really at one point the only sport that was still going as all the league's cancel the NBA Major League Baseball. Nhl Soccer across the World Golf was on the course with fans thousands of fans in attendance so they kept playing that Thursday and then the pressure was really mounting for them to make a decision on what to do they had originally said they play the rest of the weekend with no fans in attendance. And then eventually commissioner of Jay. Monahan decided that we can't be the only ones out here we got a play this a little more cautious and they cancel the Players Championship Not only that they cancel the next three events after the Players Championship. And then of course. The snowball effect happen which led to the postponement of the masters. So there was a lot going on and Louis if you know the golf calendar at all this time of year is all a build up a buildup to Augusta national and the masters and we were getting to peak build up with the players championship less than a month from the masters. Of course. Now everything's been put on hold now Ryan obviously Gulf just like tennis and other sports focusing so much on the individual specially the individuals star in a Tiger Woods Phil Mickelson Brooks Cup cut like how does this affect those stars. Yeah I think they've been affected in many different ways of the weasel of these guys were Structuring their schedule to build up to golf's first major the year like we said so This puts a pause on everything for these guys. Someone like Tiger Woods this other guys who are injured as well but you remember tigers and played since mid-february so I would imagine. Tiger is using this time to get healthy on. His back has been acting up he hasn't been able to play So he's GonNa use this time to get healthy gets a practice in and hopefully be ready to go when gov gets back on the on the course Other guys like you said it's an individual sport other getting plenty of practice in most of the warmer climates in Florida Texas Arizona California so they can go and practice On the ranger on the golf course I spoke with world number two ranked player Jon Rahm recently. Who LIVES IN SCOTTSDALE IN ARIZONA? And he said he plans on play a bunch. He has his own golf cart so he doesn't have to direct with anyone he can go to the course practice on the range go out on the golf course. As long as no one's in his car touching his car he should be fine. It's an outdoor sport and there's a lot of land out there. I was out on the golf course on Friday Luiz before they shut everything down in New Jersey and it was fine. It was different. Your kept away from everyone. You know you're talking about hundreds of acres of land that you can kind of get some exercise be outdoors. Get Out of the House. Which is a big thing. I think that's what a lot of these golfers are doing. Some of them. I talked to Billy Horseshoe. Who's a veteran tour pro? You know. He's adjusting because he's got little kids at home? He's not used to being home during the day right. He's out either at a tournament. He travels thirty five weeks a year to tournaments or he's practicing during the day so right now he's trying to pitch in and help out with the young kids who summer schooling at home summer. Just real little and you've got to take care of them so he's trying to pitch in with his wife so that's a whole new world that he said he still adjusted to so. I think it's individuals for these guys are dealing with it really on an individual basis. Nero. Let's focus a little bit on a player. You mentioned earlier Jon Rahm because actually brings you know other issues into it how players especially international players dealing with this and how their families are dealing with this and the restrictions depending on where they are. What more did you get from? His story that relates to the Gulf War. Yeah it's a little different for Rahm Being a PGA tour player lives in Arizona though He's from Spain and the bulk of his family. I really I mean ninety. Nine percent of his family is in Spain. Most of them are in their town. He grew up in Bilbao Spain. Which is on the north coast of the country and when I spoke with him. This was Late last week Spain was in full locked out prior to the US going into any kind of shutdown state by state Spain was in full lockdown He said he was talking to his parents and his family quite a bit just to Kinda lift their spirits. He knew they had nothing to do. in Kinda just you know. Make them smile a little bit. He talked to his mom who said was was in good spirits. She had witnessed that things. Were getting tired. There was. She witnessed a family outside who had been walking home from the grocery store and they were confronted by police officers escorted back to their home immediately because they weren't supposed to be outside of the home so he also talked about the city of Madrid which has been the epicenter in the country of Spain for the corona virus pandemic and he has a great aunt. Susan a nursing home in Madrid. Who is stricken with a LS? She lost Use of many of her Her bodily functions. He said she's in this nursing home where someone has tested positive for the virus. She's there she can't even control opening and closing her mouth so he was very very frightened for her Let's get families scared for the family of this that they're safe right now but but the outbreak was Rapidly spreading across the country. So him being eight thousand miles away made it even harder. I think we can all relate Something going on with our family miles and miles away. You really can do nothing about Rama's stuck in Arizona. He can't travel to go. See Them. It can only pretty much on the phone hop on facetime. He kind of check in to make sure they're doing okay going back to scheduling and tournaments and competitions. Obviously the Tokyo Olympics has been postponed for twenty twenty one. How does that affect the Gulf world? I mean aside from Stars. Obviously there are many players. Were not necessarily as recognizable as your tiger woods but they still depend on tournaments like this to expose themselves an and improve. How does how does the suspension postponement of the Olympics affect the golf world? Golf is part of the Olympics. Now was two thousand sixteen at rejoined the Olympics in Brazil And it was drawn great interest a lot of players especially Americans had made it a priority to try try to qualify for the Summer Games in Tokyo the way things work The qualification process is based on world. Rankings on the men's and women's side The top fifteen automatically qualify for the Olympics about. Maximum you can only have four players from one country so there were for Americans in that top fifteen that was just a Thomas Brooks kept Patrick can't lay Patrick Reed with a four players. Dustin Johnson who was ranked in that group had said publicly. He was not going to go to the Olympics. He was going to skip it. So those four were in as of mid March And now that qualification process which was supposed to run through the end of June is put on hold what that means going forward or we're going to have to see right assuming we're going to have the Olympics in the summer of twenty twenty one. What will they do with the qualify? Will they run it through the end of this year? Will they run it through part of next year It should be interesting. We mentioned Tiger Woods. And how he's handling this. Getting healthy tiger was on the outside looking in for those rankings. Right now. He's eleventh in the world in the seventh ranked American so he had not qualified as of now for the Olympics. So if they reopened the qualification process this could be good for tiger. Who said he hasn't played in two months he could come back healthy get maybe six more months of qualifying time and jump into that top. Four of Americans has said he wants to play in the Olympics. He's never played in the Olympics. He's a big team sports guy. You know he's friends with a lot of athletes in the NBA and NFL and other sports. He loves sports in general so he's made that a priority to try to qualify for the American Olympic team. So at should be very interesting to see how they handle the process if tiger can play himself in to the Olympics with that extra time so you mentioned obviously the Masters Pga Championship obviously spawned the US Open. Though is still on at the moment for June dates. What's the latest on the effort to reschedule? Gulf's biggest events and do you think the US Open specifically should still be on the schedule yet the US Open has the luxury their third on the list of four majors. The masters was first early April. They had to make a decision. They postponed it. Which is Great? The rumors are that the masters could be in October. the PGA Championship next in. May the time had come for them to make a decision. Biggest problem with the PGA is in San Francisco which has had a tremendous outbreak of the virus so they had to address that very quickly. That's been postponed That could fill the spot And the schedule. That's now open because the Olympics will wait and see on that next up as you mentioned is the US Open which is in New York At winged foot. Now the thing with the US Open. I think the US DA which runs the US. Open is doing the right thing by waiting. I don't think they have the rush that decision they can. They have the luxury of waiting and seeing the health things out. The big problem is Moronic New York. You live in New York Louis C. You know the area. Americ- is less than five miles from new Rochelle which has had a massive outbreak in the corona virus. They had that one mile quarantine and locked down the city one of the first cities or towns to do that so that is very close to where wing foot is so. That's going to be happy to have to be taken into consideration when deciding if they're going to have the US Open At that location and as scheduled which is three months from now I think the wait and see approach is like the entire sports rules right. We don't know how we're GONNA come out of this The US Open you get close to two hundred thousand people in and out of the gates over four or five day stretch. So there's a lot to be considered. The masters is the big thing though. I think hopefully that the golf world on the sports world will get to see the masters in Augusta. Come the fall that that's the rumors and Some of the theories floating around right now golf circles. Let's end it on a on a personal note. I mean obviously when we talk about these situations with specific sports we focus so much on the profession about people. Forget that Gulf especially such a community based sports especially amateur level youth level. I know you personally are so attached to it. Not just from a professional standpoint Your children play it. How do you feel now at the moment? That Gulf is missing. What do you miss most about Gulf right now? Are you optimistic? That at some point you'll be able to come back and and celebrate this game. Yeah I'm optimistic. I try to you. Try to look at this and stay positive throughout this tough time. Louise of the game of golf personally is give my family something to bond together with a of As you mentioned my two boys play competitively tournaments that if we're not playing together I'm usually caddying for them practicing with them. And if we're not doing that Odyssey were playing golf with. My parents are in their sixties. Who Live close by so the course that we play at Whether do it together. My boys go out with my grandparents. My wife will come out so it's really a family thing for us to not have that right now is is hard you know like we talked about the Masters. This time of year is the build up. It's the excitement. Spring is coming. You know you get that. I sixty five degree day in our house. What we do is race out. Go to the golf course and we haven't been able to do that. I did that on Friday with my youngest son Who's ten years old? He finished his schooling and we race that it was warm on Friday. We didn't know what was coming in New Jersey and we got one round of golfing. I didn't expect it to be our last round for the foreseeable future but I'm so glad we did. We had a great day we outdoors. We bonded we had fun together and is something that we're used to doing that. Gave us a little bit of a sense of normalcy? I think what it will do for us when we're eventually able to go back out together as a family. I think things will get back to normal for us. And then that's what I'm hoping. I'm hopeful Lewis. I mean gotta stay positive right now. What does that's the only choice you've got right. That's a good ending message. Sports illustrated video host percenter and golf writer. Ryan Celta Ryan. Thanks very much for joining us. Thanks Louise Take. Care of other since my conversation with Ryan reports of state of the US Open will remain at winged foot in New York but postponed to a later date in the summer of twenty twenty the USDA has yet to make that decision official Ryan touches on the personal nature of the corona viruses. Impact of sports around the country sporting events. We've lost are more than just moneymakers or something to do in a weekend. There are part of our families. Our Passion Story Tennessee's. There's a long way to go before a casual round of golf with friends or family will be liable or even safe but remembering where we love. Sports in the first place could be what gets us through an unprecedented and scary moment in history in the end. It's never just sports. It's always about connecting. Thanks to Ryan a Celta for joining me. Today we'll continue bringing you the stories throughout the corona virus crisis. If you like what we're doing please recommended to a friend or family member and leave a rating and review on Apple podcasts. It really helps others find show. You can listen to corona virus in sports for Free. Wherever you get your podcast and be sure to subscribe or follow us for the latest episodes. Stay safe and we'll see you next time.

golf US Masters Olympics Gulf Ryan Celta Ryan ARIZONA Jon Rahm Tiger Woods Players Championship Orion Celta Ryan Gulf Spain Luiz writer Ryan Celta NBA New York New Jersey
Weather Watching: The birth of forecasts

Brains On!

29:57 min | 9 months ago

Weather Watching: The birth of forecasts

"Before we start the show I just wanted to let you know that Mark Sanford and I are bringing the brains on live show to Boston. New York and Washington. Dc This spring for tickets and more INFO head to brains on dot org slash fans. We hope to see you there. And if you aren't in Boston New York or Washington DC. Don't worry we'll be announcing more cities in the coming months again. Get more INFO at brains on DOT ORG SLASH FANS? Okay on with the show. You're listening to brains on where we're serious about being curious brain. John supported him part by a grant from the National Science Foundation. How Nice Sandals Mark? Thanks Manica are they made out of newspaper? Yes they are. I made them myself. You know what I say recycle reuse and look really cool doing it and as long as I can. Steer clear of sharp rocks. Stay away from fire pits and look out for pedals. There super comfortable. Okay Oh hey I was gonna tell you what happened to the birds yeah. They stopped singing and those cows. They're all huddled together. Weird Oh hey check it out. Have you ever seen an do this? It's kind of like they're covering up the entrance to their home hold on no chirping cows and bunches and aunts protecting the entrance to their holes. All these creatures must be tuning into A. Oh no I can smell the rain coming to us. Oh Yeah Hey. That's what I was going to mention my sandals. I have to get back to brains on headquarters and put on my glasses made from recycled bike tires. Instead don't worry bring back I guess he didn't realize I'm carrying an umbrella and I wearing my rain jacket. And I'm wearing my galoshes. I mean I did check the weather APP before I left the house this morning. You're listening to brains on from American public media. I'm molly bloom and with me today. Our honor and poem from Atlanta. Hi To hi. Hello Molly so honored. This episode was inspired by a question that you sent us you wrote. How did weather forecasting come to be in? What did people used to use to predict the weather? So I'm just wondering how did this idea pop in your head well? Weatherman came to school and told us how they predict whether today with satellites and radar but I was wondering how they did it a long time ago when they didn't have those tools. It's a really really good question. So do the two of you check the weather forecast often. Well we sometimes have to since we play soccer like for practices and Games. If they're gonNA BE RAINED OUT OR NOT. Are there signs that you look for beyond the weather forecast to tell you what the weather's going to be like? Sometimes I look at the frost on the windows and sometimes when I wake up in the morning I can hear the birds chirping outside my window or I can look at the clouds. And if there's a lot of clouds maybe it's GonNa rain that day so if there are birds. Chirping wanted the birds chirping. Tell you usually they don't Chirp when it's about to rain so sunshiny weather. Do you hear that. Oh Yeah it looks like mark's trying to get our attention come in mark yes come in. Hey Pals I wasn't interrupting anything important was I. I mean we are taping an episode as we speak so it's about how people used to predict the weather. Great than this interruption is surprisingly on topic. Unlike the time you interrupted our aunt episode taping to tell me that you found your missing contact lens in your belly button all right all right look. I thought you'd WANNA know whatever. I was going to tell you that I smelled ozone outside. So don't forget your umbrellas when you head out ozone yeah ozone is a gas with a sweet kind of sharp smell sort of tingles. The nostrils it's made by bolts of electricity like lightning. So if you smell ozone there's a good chance of thunderstorms are coming. And then after the rain there's a different smell honor poem. How would you describe that smell after the rain? I think it smells sort of like damp and not like it's sunshiny at all. On how about you? And we'll see kind of wet. Yeah kind of wet damp and kind of earthy cozy and there's a name for that it's called Petra core it happens when raindrops kick up stuff. That's been dried up on the ground stuff like oils plant material and bacteria. Sometimes you can even smell Petra core when it's raining somewhere nearby. If the wind is blowing near direction people have been paying attention to signs like this from the natural world in order to predict the weather for tens of thousands of years poem. Can you think of any reasons why whether prediction has been such a hot topic for so long well weather is really important like when it snows you can get like buried in snow of it? There's a lot of snow yet. You don't want that. How about you honour. Well because you just want to know like what temperatures and stuff. Yeah you got to be prepared before cars or books or even concrete wasn't vetted people were watching the skies to try to predict the weather. The Babylonians use the stars and the ancient Chinese astronomers. Use the moon. Those Chinese astronomers invented a lunar calendar that predicted seasonal changes like major heat or cold. Do in my favorite clear and bright but none of this was very precise. You might figure out when the best time of the year to plant a crop. Is You know it's going to be raining later? That day at three. Pm in the afternoon. The ancient Greeks had God's who they saw as controlling different realms of whether for example. There was iris. She was in charge of rainbows. He Liz he controlled the sun and Poseidon the God of the seat. He controlled the storms over the ocean and his brothers. Zeus was kind of the god of all Gods and sometimes even called the God of thunder but really he pretty much controlled everything in the sky down in the mortal world Greek philosopher. Aristotle was trying his best to understand what caused different weather patterns. He wrote a treatise meteorology. Is that weird? Sound familiar to you. Have you ever heard of before? Yes I've heard before. So the Greek meaning of meteorology translates to of the atmosphere and meteorologists as we know them steady changes in our atmosphere. They steady rain win. Heat snow all that stuff. I'm sure you've seen meteorologist on. Tv well other cultures used aristotle's writings to make more weather theories for thousands of years after he first wrote about them and in the sixteen hundreds to new measuring tools really changed the game. That's when we get the barometer and the thermometer right. Those are some quality honors. We're going to be talking about those in a bit. Hang on you smell that ozone I gotta go find my galoshes by goodbye at least is interruption was on topic today. That is a very good point now before this downpour hits. Let's soak up some sounds. It's the talk here. It is all right. What is your guests? Let's start with you poem so that Kinda sound like someone getting crushed to me like something rolling and crushing something else and things crashing into each other excellent listening. What about you on our? What did you hear it sounded? Kinda like Something flapping in the wind at a beach like ten laughing at the beach or we're going to be back with the answer a little bit later in the show brands on. Let's get back to those two measuring tools. That mark mentioned the barometer in this thermometer. Thermometer measured temperature. That's how hot or cold. Dearest and barometers measure atmospheric pressure or air pressure is basically telling us how much the air is pushing down on us when the temperature changes that changes the atmospheric pressure warm air likes to rise and cold air likes to sink but the atmosphere wants everything to be balanced so if there is a low pressure somewhere air want to rush over there to even it out that makes wind and moves clouds around for more on this. Check out our episode. How do meteorologists predict the weather? Different temperature and air pressure combos. Add Up to make different weather patterns and if you can measure those two pieces you can get a pretty good idea of what weather is on the way. That's why the invention of the barometer thermometer are a pretty big deal. They were both invented in the sixteen hundreds in Italy but it took two hundred fifty years for someone to figure out how to use these tools to predict the weather. Oh Hi Paulina honor and poem. This is reporter Pauline. Velasco High Paulina. Hey Molly Hey Tom Hanan. I'm dropping by to tell you the tail of the first modern weather forecaster Admiral Robert Fitzroy Hoi Mei artist. High Fitzroy Blimey. If this isn't a great grew to be joining on deck. Thanks fits though you know. We're not currently on a ship. High right you are but I spent so long on ships that it's a force of habit as you can tell. Fitzroy was a sailor. He was actually the captain of the HMS Beagle. That's the ship that carried Charles Darwin to the Galapagos. Exactly Admiral Fitzroy spends over twenty years sailing around the world from Europe to what is now Argentina to New Zealand and eventually settles back in England in the eighteen fifties where he's put in charge of a new department in the British government that collects weather data at C. Thank heavens I'd gotten really tired of being out at sea and this was a perfect combination of my interests science and sailing sailing science. I guess that's kind of it. So fitzroy's collecting data about storms and conditions at sea for the government. But no one's really doing much with it until tragedy strikes. It was October eighteen fifty nine a huge storm hit the Irish sea off. The coast of Wales a steamboat called the royal charter sunk. Hundreds of people died rex. Like this happened all the time. It's tragic all those lives could have been saved if we could have warned them about the storm. So that's what Fitzroy set out to do. The government gave him the authority to officially issue storm warnings and share them with the world. And how did he do that in the eighteen fifty? I mean there were no radios or TV's or phones even true but there was plenty of new technology after all. It was the height of the Victorian era. The first modern railroad was built. New sewing machines were invented to tiger fee was taking off and we the First Electric Telegraph the Telegraph. That's like the thing that sends telegrams exactly so back in that day you didn't have cell phones texts or facetime. You had to send letters and that took a long time the Telegraph on the other hand. It was nearly instantaneous. If you had an emergency you could send an electric message from Your Telegraph to Telegraph station. In a far off place it was just a series of beeps but someone on the other end. Would interpret the beeps transcribe the message into words and then deliver the message to the person you were trying to reach right away and what I did. Was I combined the use of the barometer and the genius of the Telegraph to send out warnings when storms. Coming like a forewarning a forecast. What a great word forecast forecast forecast really rolls off the tongue. Doesn't it well? We still use it today on. Monroe fitzroy started using maps to put together weather charts. He sent out parameters that they called Fitzroy's storm barometers to small fishing villages around Britain and those people would telegraph him with data from those barometers which led him. No storm was brewing in that area. Then I'd use the Telegraph to send urgent messages back to them. If I calculated that a storm was heading their way then they could batten down the hatches and he'd also forward the weather reports to the newspaper. August first eighteen hundred and sixty one and I quote in the North moderate westerly wind and the forecast fine. That was the first ever weather forecast published in The Times newspaper. It had predictions for several cities. London Liverpool Copenhagen in Denmark Byron in France. And I was right. You're and don't be shy. You also became very famous oh please just a tad. Famous people became obsessed with forecasts. Farmers could figure out how to take care of their crops. Better sailors and fishermen could stay safer out at sea. People use them to plan outdoor fairs and even to pick their outfits and the Queen herself once asked for a weather prediction for one of her trips. That's right the queen. These scientific weather forecasts were the basis for our weather reports today. Good now we have other tools to like satellites and computers come pewter what. Don't worry about it admiral. Thanks for all your hard work. Yeah we owe a lot to you and your forecasts cold blimey. Thanks you too. And thanks for telling us the story. Paulina my pleasure. Come on Admiral. Let's get Outta here way. Anchor and hoist the Mizzen. Have I ever told you about the time? We ran some icebergs in the straight image. Do you have a question you want to hear answered on the show for mystery sound you think can stump US maybe join? Send them all to us at brains on dot org slash contact. That's what we were sent this question. My name is glory from Shanghai China. My question is apparently dead. How does it grow? We'll have an answer to that during our moment of And will read the most recent list of names to be added to the brains honor. Roll all at the end of the shift to keep listening. You're listening to brains on for American public media. I'm molly I'm poem and I'm honored and it's time to hear the mystery sound again here. It is one more time last time we heard crushing crashing wind beach. Three of any new thoughts. I think that I'm I definitely heard some wind there in the end. So I'M GONNA say some wind. And maybe like the waves and wind in the waves. Excellent Galvin stay with my I can you remind us what your guests was atlas alike a tent flapping at the beach in the wind. Excellent hearing all right. Let's hear the answer. Dallas does sound A camping on the beach with twenty mile an hour winds hi. Our names are Isabella in greener grass. Georgia we are camping on the beach at Thornhill. Broome can't grounding California. The win was fashion made. The temperature feel colder camping. What's fun because the stars in the mood for so bright? We didn't need flashlights in. We've got to go into the by really excellent honor. You were like completely correct attent blowing on the beach. How did you do that? I don't know? Have you been in a tent during a windy time before? Well we haven't paid. We haven't been camping but we've we've had a beach ten before so that is like a situation you have found yourself in before were there is something being blown about on the beach. Yeah we have another little game for you play. It's called the law of your the way it works is our town. Crier is going to say a piece of weather lore and I want you to say what weather event the town crier is talking about. So here is the first piece of Lore. Rudd Sky at night sailor's delight Red Sky at morning sailors. Take warning okay. So does this describe one the fact that sailors hate read because it clashes with their uniforms to Red Sky in the morning shows that a high pressure system has but at night it shows that one is on its way towards you or three red sky at night means snow in the morning poem. What is your one two or three? I think I'm GONNA go with the second one. Honoured you agree you're correct. It is number two so the way the sun is seen through dust trapped by high pressure systems will make the sky appear red. And if it's in the morning that means it's already by it's in the East but if it's in the West that means it's on its way toward you. All right here is piece of floor number two when when does won't open and the salt clogs the Shaker though weather will favor the umbrella lawmaker. So does that refer to number one the high humidity before a rain storm number two pranks pulled by local umbrella makers or number three high winds. Make it tricky to pour salt and open windows. So the talking about one high humidity to pranks or three high winds. What do you think on her? I think it's one poem. Do you agree yes. You are both correct. High humidity makes windows harder to open and salt gets moist and comes together. So when it's more humid that means there's more moisture in the air and it's more likely terrain okay. Here is lower number three. When March blows its horn your bond will be filled with hay and corn. Okay so does this. Describe Number One. Hay and corn grows better when serenaded by trumpets number. If March is Windy you better fill your barn with hay and corn to keep it from blowing over or three if march is full of thunderstorms. Your crops will do well. So that's number one. Hey in corn like to hear trumpets number two. If it's Wendy you need to keep your barn from falling over or three thunderstorms means your crops are GonNa do well poem. What do you think I think? It's number three K. Honor what do you think you are right? It is number three so thunderstorms happen. When there's big temperature differences between the sky and the ground so that means if it's unusually warm in March it could mean a better growing season very nice work honor and poem got more road to you so as we've talked about before people had weather apps where they could see a ten day forecast. They looked to nature for signs of what the weather would bring. We wanted to learn more about what looking at plants and animals instill tell us about whether climate so we asked Theresa criminals to join us. She's in ecologist and the director of the USA phonology network. Welcome Theresa thank you so much. What is phonology phonology is all about? When things happen seasonally in nature it refers to not only the leaves coming out on trees. But it's when those things happen things like when flowers open when birds migrate when insects hatch from their intact eggs so has to do with when those things happen because it happens at different times different states or different parts of the world and also it can vary from year to year so like what kind of behaviors and parents do you look for so on the most basic level. We are keeping track of when things are happening all year long. Ideally all across the country and so we have a we run a program called nature's notebook that anybody can participate in and how that works. Is you go out into your backyard? Say or your front yard and you choose a couple of plants that you're interested in keeping track of and you can keep track of animals as well and what you do is multiple times over the course of the year like maybe once a week or every couple of weeks you'll go out and look at those plants and look for those animals and if you see them then you write down what you see and you indicate whether you do see open flowers or ripe fruits or whether the seeds are blowing around or whether those animals have babies with them and we're able to analyze those data to be able to understand how things are changing and what's happening in a given year. Do you just try and figure when it's going to happen or do you also try and figure out how they're doing things? Yes both both because if we can figure out how the how is really what are the conditions that are associated with that thing happening so for example we think about say lilacs one. Is it that that actually will push a lilac to finally open its flowers? Researchers have identified that generally it has a lot to do with how warm it is and a certain amount of warmth that we have to have that plant be exposed to trigger. It's opening opening. Its flowers and once. We're able to figure that out and say it has to be exactly this warm for those many days in a row and then that plant will flower. That is information that we can use to predict or forecast into the future when it might flower in other years or in other locations and so we actually have Several forecasts that you can view on our website that show you when things might happen like when my ex lower or when different insect pests might be active. There's a a common one called Eastern Tent Caterpillar. That you might be familiar with. They are little caterpillars. That make really big. They look like spiderweb nests kind of in the Crotch of branches of trees and they can eat the leaves of the trees that you WanNa keep and so people generally tend to think of him as their favourite species and we make maps that help predict when those guys are going to be out and about so then. If you're interested in trying to control them then you can anticipate when they are going to be out in crawling and try to take action and maybe capture them. So what can we learn from phonology? Phonology is a great indicator for when things are happening and how things are changing. It's one of the best indicators that we have of how plants and animals are responding to especially changing climate conditions. And it's really valuable for figuring out and planning when to take Management actions like again if you WANNA control for those Eastern tent caterpillars or other pest. Insects Even when to start taking your allergy medicine because if it's an early spring league this year you're going to see an early. Start to the allergy season because what triggers allergies is flowers opening and pollen flying around and that tends to happen earlier in a warm spring year so really keeping track track of these very simple events occurring in nature can affect on a multitude of aspects of our lives everyday lives. Thanks for being here today. Theresa thank you poem at Hunter. It's been so fun to chat with you. Humans have been looking for weather patterns for thousands of years. The invention of the thermometer and barometer helped us better predict store and the Telegraph helped us share those early predictions far and wide. He consulted a lot about weather and climate from watching nature though. That's called phonology. That's it for this episode of brains on brains aren't is produced by Mark Sanchez. Sandton Matoco Wilhelm and Molly. We had engineering help from Johnny Vince. Evans Mike Middleton and Veronica Rodriguez and production help from Christine Lopez and Rosie to pont special. Thanks to wing see Strickland Kevin ranker Melanie Rene and Josh Holt. Brains on is a nonprofit public radio. Podcast find out how you can support the show by visiting brands on dot org slash fans now before we go. It's time for our moon of if Harris dead how does it grow? That's a really great question while your hair itself is actually dead. The Falcons from which it grows from in your scalp is alive. I'm Dr Roxana. Donald Chew I am a dermatologist. Which is a doctor that takes care of your skin your hair and your nails a hair follicle is the part of the hair dots living. It's like the seed from which the haircut rose. It's a collection of cells and these cells and proteins work together to create the hair which gets pushed out by the time. The hair grows out of the skin. Adopt Point it's just a collection of proteins is not really alive anymore. Which is why doesn't hurt. When you cut your hair. As hair gets pushed up through the skin it passes by an oil gland and this oil clan as oil to the hair to keep it soft and is the reason that hair is shining but this oil also makes your hair greasy. Which is why. You've probably noticed that you need to wash your hair The hairs on the back of my neck are standing with excitement as I get ready to read the latest group of listeners to join the brains honor roll. These are the friends who few our show by sending in questions. Drains and mystery sounds Anderson. From Boise Idaho. Miriam from Cincinnati. Alex Los Gatos California Brianna from Yucca Valley California Brook from Eudora. Kansas Elijah from Atlanta Nolan from Norwell Massachusetts Lilia from Lancaster Pennsylvania Andrew from Concord California Lauren and John From Sunbury Pennsylvania. Georgina and Michaela from Toronto. Emma Lily Luke and Jack from Thornton Colorado Norad from South Dakota Sufiane from Boston Sonali Kayla from Scottsdale Arizona Eight and from Jupiter Florida Isaiah from Boulder Colorado roads from Franklin Tennessee Frankie from Vorhees New Jersey Max from Horsham Pennsylvania Kiva from Dubai Carol from Fairfield Connecticut knee from Salida Colorado Oliver from Durham England. Greta and Gwen from Plymouth Minnesota Eliana from vadnais Heights. Minnesota James from Boise Idaho Ishai from Israel heart from Fort Washington Pennsylvania at Lisa from Tustin California Hudson from Brooklyn New York Ivy and Alice from Baltimore Miles from Dayton Ohio. Isaiah and often Richmond Hill Ontario Leon from Rochester New York read from Ponte Vedra Beach Florida Mia from Houston Darcy from the UK Adelaide Isa from New Zealand Oscar from Sheffield United Kingdom Natalie from Belichick Massachusetts Kieran from Cyprus California Philip from Germantown Tennessee. Eight and from innisfail Ontario Qantara from Missouri. Amelia from Dallas. Ronnie from Boston Linkin from Elo days. Texas you off from New Plymouth New Zealand Natalie from Power Tan Virginia Zephenia and Karen from Gilroy California River from Denver. Paul from Eudora. Kansas Lisa from finance pen Cambodia some oil from Wall Ingong Australia. Cedric and Morgan from Arlington Massachusetts. Ceylan Ethan Incur- from Saskatoon Saskatchewan What we back soon with more answers to your questions. Thanks for listening.

Admiral Fitzroy molly bloom Boston Theresa vadnais Heights Dallas John California Mark Sanford Washington New Zealand New York National Science Foundation soccer Atlanta Massachusetts Eudora Aristotle
Almanaco de Frias XII - Gugacast - S05E29

Gugacast

1:03:58 hr | 4 months ago

Almanaco de Frias XII - Gugacast - S05E29

"If, he's always UGO cash. into groups Secretary Google. She can eventually Sudas. Berry you'll say. L. P.. Q. File be beyond where epic. Means the with. Acquittal Utah Ago by mini Google cache through years VITUNAC cash socratic sing powder. Let's see WHO's Rubel tests. WHO's your cash you here? Who Hunan Security Space as. Bad, as quarantine, it was approached. Assess who isis continues y'all's quasi mewat thing lossing cousteau. You Walk picky pay devolve is simple, sent the premier missile dodge comic seeing. As I, said GonNa. Tables visas. To. Specific Procure Cope was y'all can assume you might. PEOPLE SANK DOT com. Home Buffalo. brassing Faucet, vying casual a scene to speak out commissioner, economically inefficient rookie, only spock, and also nowhere fates miserable is river cash won't combat, Hocine Google cache to jeer off I was telling to taste car. Yeah I also Google, our vendor, who are cashing Zuma Simona the also Monaco Fair. Olah saying Otis saying artists, saying the. Hicklin, set us. Over Guard's. Task was safe for in ABC's. Necessarily as you Cardi will. Stay the synergy on this necessary as mice Philippine Brazilian NBC Shikata. US No noisy. I, still to the fees kilometers, an awful shown clear answer. Either in obscenity joined us. Procure shower with our final. Four PM itchy suing. Who you own! Sauce April fourteen creepy to Moscow who it's. Our. Society. Khufu freedom of senator on this is this Basinas Yoenis by Keno. SALVIA PRO am I. Wash losses also. Parking Brazil passage Nisa pocketing. Likud! US. Keeping A Skjei. But don't measure. Up Obscene Energy Sparky who pays way as early as you know, you're a Cisco Hagen Luna's so crucial visa yelling Leonardo ain't. No. Foster Joseph. Say My. Mother has shoes won't save. Going to. have an I Q. Say To what you've seen because now seem base at a money specific inside Cattleman, Jerusalem, Fennell Tampa, but AGLIETTA ELENITA stone migrant air, but to eastern WON'T BE SEENA IF I. AM is three stairs either kiss. Always your. Starters three she's. ISCI COMPAQ HE or Does. He started Kim mice. She's Aronov insurer. Or should I. do wish. Each Pool MILIC William is? Moment mice some consider others. Autism from policies. Program is. As a s as his thoughts, gentlemen Gosh I'm including. Can you feel focuses goes? which hit socio skeleton? Don't showed another moment book Oviedo says got it. Yes, so what you start asking because he stopped. On! That which follow should equally as started. It was should. Should, he have his program should talk on. Source you're going to. Shut up! Your team is young. You Financing Care of Kabbah kicks him he has to start at knowing. Clicky. You see s just started. Allocating sponsors seen chaotic. Savage fool are better won't say extra carrying a game. That you? Obviously all of UNITA saucer or Die Selma Symbolic Ash. Wash speak Akara book ears, so you quiz a city she's. Gulp. His. She view illness the visa facing. Forward and seen were save. CATAS- inclusive CAVADA's Emerson. Bodice Chris Christopherson versus shorter make Saliba today our Listener Sarah Case. ONA Sake. Outta Awash McKee. We stadium versus. Noon your wisdom, for which was Suppose Gospel, G G I've interviewed a savvy PD. Oh, the Hawk Dr Seuss to WHO IS A. Salon Instrument. Going to opportunity honest, dame acquisitive Kit Greece. Kill kilfoyle sober any Meisner Paloma McCoy's Salvatore. MISO ASO's thinning out the mizen patchy question. is to Kim. Winters started sue as sue. Hundred images damage consider filed. Kids cookout Adele, seeking justice use cover Livonia Gosper. Hume Cash Oh who? Image automating partake was casual, Licata kikka-sho who legal? Discuss, show who sal bookie election carriage VILLELA. Challenge by in school, and then we'd four for. Thought and were syndicated Monica Pierre. As simple here. List sitting ashes, Guy Civil is so key north. Keep us go. Don't be, Chicago. Anybody. Twelve Holocene eka shows no some guy's car. It's Bernabeu. Issue pressure wounds needs mice as you possibly see and also seen shing catching stacey essential mandible, casual savvy you pull got will catch is more lasagna. Mice teaches. About who'd? chief. Knowledge. Of the issue. Lachey do a moment ago. And he's Momento Ludovic. Otherwise you fees. Just, a few more into our Luda show wounds easily five. Say cash show wounds Ziza Ming vacated Mona this year. Is. Issues contests. W, civil cohere clue valid. Ain't pass him on this. Dome was pitchy. Sepia Para calls my zoom you who's alluded? Setting say has to normal link a upon punk competent bear Barbara Massamba Yoga cash. Masuku. Consequence openers Qahira pocketing is persona so Kobe's US may stash it. Are you told us the same says he's costing you. Jingsi sinning repair who des which provides for the pay domain, Luda. Shafei? MPG keep our professional schools moments lewd. Desa Vase vis a superhero. Appropriate, actually the superior new Beijing Stories, but as an office programas focusing monarchy vein Hickam. Massa a significant topper that came out of Google cash. You care who is stories June Dama Kale Temeke proceed towards a Turkey. Thoughts stomach flu to the staircase. I started sex. Helped him or keep? Those days you. They started on Monday, dodge. Luminary Kiki studied. You sexy, sexy meat, but unnecessary mice for chain is at Parchman the Capri pledge loans, but I'd key. Star this gee-gee, the skinny answers to the Moon Zappa so put. Them on Shafei careers, you is for Phoenix. Contact Kim's Oviedo Stars he started. Dutra Body Keller's his office. Chefs. Can you say second? Also Shafie King Sabi was a video of Buddhism so parabolic Watson. I spent. Keep Change. You'll demo key. Knock on some. Key Osha UK ancient has on. Care of years, Stories jean-yves. which. Let's say use my spill. Our TCHAKA Dupree start do. You do do not large. Fica Soho Cam. I can't be sued. WHO's got? US? Far East, donegal smile GOP paradores Selah. You can try and you should care started other similar. Marketing while he got. Big Are getting has on. View. Kit's adding Mondays Thursdays Cuomo. NUNCA has oh. City and Ostra Vescio episode as you want to add. To Mighty view them to me for table. Don't the stars phonology his point you've. Seen battled niece. Targeting the fastest soapy assertions hold on. Know my folly tries already got did. He Boo. Yards. Fallacy Novi Program Oh Magnus Bizarre April. Doesn't masseuse does not seeing you. He's a of you program Bachelor. So. Gay Kyle Abdomen Administered to Sherm, who superdome La Google Foci Pacific with without minimum sympathies, mench Quincy, the Professor Baron, no honest. was his visa cap each? Sewage? So, professor in Ventura to. Eat rising for Muslin. Hutchinson Visa Pharmacy Portents View Linke Cafod Ski lose thrown. What. Is this massive. Daughter may have either male deals, even making commissioner Christopher Adjunct throughout the starring Rosada Ot. She might in things. Video sequel transfer for Muslims. Drop it in the. Area V. The sar-e-pul civil poises show much bill. L. Stood Avid Enough Apple Dodge theologica cystitis. Model Beings Asinine Sinisa keep you. Boy At me all. Probably one of those days. Sixty pages so occupies. I'm. Days Mills which moves does. Dawson Buehler's you. Got? Is a quintessential non-issue. These days prefer so by. Don't you have insurance? In those days Provo Jubilo Winnie. Prison token wish central Costanza movie in the main bank year collegiate out. Here is Tom. Kaine north you do any at a sobe carried in our Kiiza Juba Taras Q. Begged us who could. He's Houston as for to KIKO HOI APO so media desire the distance. Historic. Statesman no SELENA statement orchestra as you. Tomorrow Tomorrow see water. Mukasey. Seeing being over former professor now have. Come December have insurance might as Novoye in that Kwan Do. Listen. Amy Premiered Isle Grad also. Speak About Programs Pacelle specifics both occupied you march the Anna. Process you. Go hideous. Dodgers. winton zinc brick about things partha insect is. Due to videotape, endurance mice, inking daughters balance Q. in June. Secret rousing jetties go. HAD CANDIDATES FILE MUSLIM MARRIAGES JOLLA. Singing humorous because. He saw mentioned format. This could be room. Kiss civil that they are not. going. To disappeared again is. The parachute silk. CONESA mix purpose. Put therapy for you, not Simone Coma Kobe within is Naji Coffee. Them does the Combat Gases Bala. He grows ed or Mir his safe. Hose before an cones has told us. Must you've some? Cues Important Lilla Canada as Louis Cadel as the. Lille. Does golden retrievers, leanness, occupying just stack now secret, senior, vetoed and affiliate some Paulo County Romy at Numazu imposter Limo Poodle. You'll total coyness Kazeem Mirani. Mizoram, Africa, shoe, physiology and Mazdas does no parasitism Kershaw's increase Jane is cutting ause eye catching education thing junk feta to Adams. He sings hymns. Leila's lean airing. Would your pigeon Branca go ahead and show us the shovel of our allies. For the Chateau, no matter how does amuse pyramid has been. Canada's caused Louis, mice, she she for a little Guy Truck Bela. Dealer. Who and visit which cashew if? Obama's Moosh. Throw Surfing. In the. League outcomes are died my Navajo do if in the experienced a considers miserly guys. At the moment, ah concept some. New Scottish I'm as you the helming surplus age lily Kiara Chiel, poverty fog search feature. Total the. You. Are Putting to. Glance Muslims Matthias Consob, please jar file. copen initially Philippi male. L. Boot Dash. Yet, me. Earner Japan really carry nonprofit. Do any. Drugs. The brazil-costa Monte fog's here in Kiev Yuki in towards against you only. Kiara pose me Gunderson. Allows enter in points from swaps. You don't that shocker. No. No Asiya I, know I know. Foreign Contractors would each new situation visine Madison. Cashew Emmy clothing feel Adjalil Ramon you. CATA analysis. Komo's snow presides besides sex. As the tightest might as Lilly Kiara. Cuma of the Moon, pies. Reser, being my quaint system set on batchelor is coming cement. vizo ME DO Co.. He won't introduce KC. Map! That does feel arches, said Vinci, through goldens fairly communicate seraing currently. Put Alice. Featherstone village. Mill diving Cedar. How he'll. Kill his so genome. Mazowsze Dodger Greenwich Keystone Miami. Sat Vinci. Whatever Cornell now Sakata Grain bail. Put his sandwiches you. GotTa Lena's Pat Burrow Pat Guy Ricky character. Champ is quite literally. Callup seat acquired you. Colored. Passer patient that. Put the pattern. Being. CARE! Don't kill on I. Don sock eating measure tomorrow, Minneola. Do you notice essential minimal same for looks fiasco. Mizen bitching Gaza Lms Yogu- for Cautions Dallas. Don't Rindge podge. You'll get passer. NEOM concludes proper facilities that WHO Sarah. E, Namdar parties idiot they don't Meka. Apartheid Sanctions Cashew Allen Dookie Film I. Stop on Asian, Satellite Madeiran. The message. Go to make what full of want. My stomach was leaves trolley. Keep it in Jere. Say accused. Moore to bail by bike wisdom afoot tune footage Arkansas Mona. Lisa showed Golding intone ls. Don't bring is e. was deceased. Classic mid. Heroin Pusher mission. The pacing yourself to do his. Senior show. Is that but bigger? Bush. Don't fast you champion does. Does that mean it's been sunny alligator micheals of them. Resilient in the Amir Molin mccaddon. May hit bandaging. E. Dosage bore my setup being saxophone cashew. Beal? Say. Sacramento this as those catalysis says that concluding of died, you see in wisdom, CK Budgerigar Muslim Council before similar April, Ivanka shoe it this is. Most severe. She said unfulfilled. Said Well Carlo always do amy night shyamalan savvy vitamin. Wien Wien. Doesn't socialist the. Patch Winco through united presides as just as cardiologists and twenty. As Jesus Nassir Coaching Subic. Clark. You can't participate on his own brains, mayes. Just your spouse sponsor some quite anything could use packages mummy. Dodge Macabre Dodge Cammisa Clark No. You're putting Kentucky. Is Lupus familiarity skewed idea? Is that precision? Genomic couples now how? Technology is pretty TV's. Komo Stone Elizabeth Cashew at this time Anthony Mantha. My Leo Sarasola Itchy. Out Jia! Takata. Car Known Shopaholic. Squeeze go how the ovum's attachable Scott. Ito at their kidding moment now they just call remind Giddy. Gra Saad some characters periodic. EQUALLY SIGNIFICANT MAZDA GORA NEW MIDDAY ORLEANS USE NOAH cities city my family amish. TORONTO. Cow On my artist zones for food of the planet at their this Oy buildings cavern not A. More. Dan was also through. Deutsche. Jimmy Marshall Greenwich. Huma fame might. KC Go. In for sports. AM antimony cheat. And Wolf Ms. Dubbing the I. Okay Do. Need to. Cheer missions. If you got on coon Padron, Bahasa was a killer. FEMA killer cuisine at altitudes artist for the PUDDLE. Chemo Julia. Makina Moulmein Kalyan swallowed. Multiple is. In those mice bail zing things Kim ceremony. E accused Jacomb Ziprecruiter. There we have them would idea complex. This moment for most. The personality dodge. Amazement or muscle beach seeing? For Salaam. Calm. Quiet on the. Stove in the METALLICA, clinical. HOW THE JUICY! METALLICA no poem. Wait longer Michael My. Vasco Leonidas litters the metallica in Colorado Nami and as my started yuping sick, but they did postal nominee leak. On My. Show marriage with. chevelle Dow. Up Merely the capacity metallica ain't my bitch. Bitch cadel cut the Alex Jamaica Dela Bitch screwed. Sonia Monica Chandler Gots Shamma Bazooka what trump was copied. As and four. Inch means you kiss school queen numerous tossing inside this? Kyodo though Eric Kemalist. UVA feasibly Bisham Adenoma, cynical webcam e-even inch mentioned Salami being so happy to Egypt. They bitchy. Honest my it is so beautiful. Here Mo owing US visits. Kelly veteran area Oakland. Pies Felony English for being considered during the familiar pretty much Jamaica and the. Other. Guys. Who've you turn to Sabella? quarterback Colt. Women controversy are being stains up his educated. Doda Viagra feel that Beach Maria Demaria told the Temple Program itchy is legitimate America the hand me at the moment. It here's Medical Tacoma's does numerous historic events. Cars miserable that. Does, so now more is target. ME. I think so at Iowa. This threat known for. US tillage be charity similar major early? Eulogy, immunise conclude wechat allowed. US to don't seal involvement of his eulogy. Zoology justice. Sad you. How'd you could realize you're? With put Kazai just happen. I'm meteorologist. Apart whole. No year put them. Voters, enemies plan kill putting the OBAMAS Cassini's comport example. I believe there's more senators as part. Judging either at us to pull back. Whatever's can in their house bring kids with with? The former. Log On premier which misier that AL in Greenwich as you could seen the capital through whatever. Xigaze Cynthia quadrants put some minor. Poor Cardiac and we. Now Solace same profile for beach same pretty now music this lie. Nurse Muses started, but it's complete a two. This absolute age daughters caricatures who's Allen's. Coin seeing. Shigella lever this to McCain's switch. Bitch settled for your call my the mile, those vegetable police. Me Does GSA MISMATCH QUIZ SHOULD AL value elevate McCarthy Hasidic Tavakoli staffers out three Schuster said Moumouni Beravic to Moravian CEO car who Olympic Bonnie Government Madurai stray squad sentencing quit question is. I part chimp's. Coverage contributed contributor. They'll push the Chicago opposite have been Qadeer, whoever arming versus fair governor shown. Jim But. Qandil Cardiac. Cuidad Chev orage. Luton they have daily. Happy telling me suspend. For Sparta strategies some Piquionne who Madison search it Bichir querying kills Noto. Sokoge itchy looting squad. VOW TO ASTHMA To grungy. I don't. And I seeing Macri, Cossack undying Simone Castro distant village. You travel at Ecuador Aegean Kerala Cardio Camarillo. Ca Days Syndrome pig Muslim woman. Who is inch resort later? Oprah got an inch possible AVARICE beachcomber L. Food. Cornell's Jimmy Kuehnle Kabuki Obama provice. At. Running. Kandara. Lever cohere hedge. If cappella the land, the land to Kelly's this year Eric. Took and secured. Quotas are assessing FM Selah so basically. Put. Thank you sorts we are. Stuck in the middle. Attack Passing Concur Moody Professor figure out the Wazoo Mr. Linda lifestyle problem which book you museum. Mosquito Qingdao. CANTATAS task citizen give mice faster kiss. You may his. Ellington famous for us to set a Foreign Miller from Eden. I'm what? To Do Kelly. Also. You can some. With those Kiam spicer till Bio Ella Tanaka's Miami Phillipi, but she look commissioner. Portended Starve era minority, Gloria which do the. Comes Lana Stress Your yearly combination view that revile what others said. He's Beach Silkair To Buy Higa. CINQUIEME. Let's US failures eligible hubby. Ed Judy Jd Postel Karaoke. One touch Pastelle. Those comparable Pastelle allegany, Atacama fruit and a faded on Pasta advantage so in numerous. vising is Komo Cornell devote almost jacking. If you could. Say means providers Jesus Kiko Stores There Oklahoma's park in convert a cat Alibaba survey show you the shorter. Your Dana Cashew will. Consume shootings has since me, Cannella, Medusa jobs. Episode. Baby the hallways. Tomo bunge alarm, yes. Boy Ain't carbon passer. conovys is what other. Gm Maria Coma Beach you. Know? If so numerous to start as a moment as much bitch western. them a million US was feeding. Does meals pretty have been cut off a squirming at a show? Dog has us at demise. Don't choose VOTAVA civilians bunny trial I lead us at our mice from was accused Maziarz Bellagio similar contravene. Shoving Maleki the elephants way animator anatomy professor Judaism due to his. Mice Heineman on Aquatic Cinco who Seco Davita Cecilia Vega. What are those? File! Quench none. Of them will die this. Is. Super superjet Costa Rica. Kazaa mortgage Reggie fees spermatozoon never that. Disney a Qazi Cammisa Noah's being better than Miami internal same ella acquaintances toodle our communal Mayakoba do bitching Villa's moon to happy. The was pillows. broncos drop by. Some awesome school our Jeremy No on Yelp Review Lahij QAFAC grains in various happy L. set. You earns beach therapeutic, interesting quincy sequence as Value Maginot arriving Linda the capital concepts. In? Letter Legitim- owns you house you Santa? Rosa Processes Things Karaka parabens. Villa Cheetahs on the private citizens, but our base building through sewn up. Our citizenship does views. Image. Accurate. You can be all is what outage within the heavy edges miasma imagine advocate consider not geeky certain age for pure romance. Jimmy Vedra beach, oppressing president to sue zing sites problem Hanau humans Jama dwayne Sicily's jars in cleansing down me, I may off. His stood prosciutto elephant. Who Suzanne Away LAVAR MINAMI JUICE for Spanish local Yemen's. Toe Genus deny not been. Meals choose Primoz Muse me up, charity date. A squeeze novas insincere in tandem and uncles Jeremy. Tidy? Media is a museum. What us? Our daughter meals are looney. Some stumbling might a beach and necessarily gas. Range. This is used to bring to land up at the passing my stink. Quasi to resort to save the planet that moment to. Eleven million if For. Them quarter juice with reveller. Demille at Adele I could've CADEAU ATAPATTU DALLY SORTA. Comments MISPRONOUNCE Mrs. Force, my design might have either asking therapy cows skull throwing. We'll see Ella Bureau votaw Washington add in those years is. Mid. Eligible via vigil appears. He's having supplement profound. Keystone Jars. Prepared. Their kids hygiene. She brings Shia Julia towards scheduling issue to veto Matt Pr. This is on view then I'm is Zolotas, Crow Music Ajaz at audio's. Emails, but Isis you allow them beat Safeway. Mia personally diets if we. Moon the new stadium video. Conferencing Modi at Paraly- Vodka show thought this. Limited Jeez. Alyssa for Louise and still you. Brigitte data. PING SYMBOL NAHLA Stadiums Zulia either Nava maneuver fuzzy. MIASMA near the. SOUTHERN CAL! I mean you cleanliness. Year was A. Neutral Custodian value owns it, said thing bridge those days Condo Abba. The Golden Base Commend Graham Imo dangerous also. The big! Holding Jersey, inches. Does use mice. Phillies have either owns. It's at the average those Sach I. Kid is is sufficient Adam blessing. Below. Will you cash cloudy? Keno foy in starsailor faster. Beach Tunnel Gamete. Ayla key flowed assing. Sit Damned, nopal magic hazard. Pay Us as subsequent analysis, but it was a barber passed bill bill miserably. Buster Ranch Jeremy Zealous. mytalk smears Donald Moon to initiate Lucy's poke. Wednesday`Llah I sit Queens Yoga. As his artist Kid Avenue to to travel possible. There's MIA for magical paramedics. You've versus. You quit US home. Again so him with Gwen shores confess so minnesota acquaintances which stamps set. Qasimi Elliot's up video put in the nineties. Give you pleasure Dan the process up here, no steady. Hillary he'll is. Africa's concordance dishes profile of you. Best Besson Slides Jamir Alesando thing. foxtel Tovey Symptom now molecules conceal knowing thieves. Sure we're carrying the saloons hoping south of sunset. He keeps you eligible. Dedicated Moment Matt Allen Best those. Buy Patch in cash fee. You know keeping up counter acting faster muster meal Adam Amiga I mean pull dot. Beach put it of them as either Hispanic Competence Brooklyn. VINCA LUTA, Ileana. I'll tell. Well, oh. Don't show. That they've got Leona. Devising. Kit As massive masters. We start to any. Saga do new premier black Friday Lewis News Santa Monica the. Program aggravate. Cash Yup ashes comb overseas of Vitas and education. Mueller scheduled on shutter south. I should say here Abbas. Adams Squadron Competitors Evanger you want that. He's throwing vm was Scott equality so placard? VERNA throws interferometers through to keep Jim SCIUTTO. Does Su. Aim boost because you need is. Familiar Nausea Lada stales. Has. Also to of will to hit the owner needed. Luke Walton. Corporate! Get her tally Cheetah. They're gonNA. New. learnings eat through e who the? Incan, salvos, poser Maria Mena's handed Alice. Ma. Anyone three tournament Numata Vana Suzan. Que-, you see the books? Have you found those seeking chee you. Have Asia Guava don't being Koizumi connection geothermal sponsors the soup. The Butter his Yo, L GITA. He's the boot again. You're. Good who's equal tavern Linda's that Gallo stay has. Lands new thing so bill, com eloquence CG corn Simone and He. Le Vian is neograph Oklahoma. Gra Sandwiches Chamois Lucius and. Now, Siesta Nigga emojis so Oklahoma. Choose my going CR interest Lewisville key feist Katie Skater. Unless you say, we start in Africa seeing KIEF ice. Kid Escape on see Rasha Toda. mcadoo thing suicide, law just keep. Have who? CAST authorities Moscow arches features sales today lose opportunists ninety paid. Who's you thought us? Sausages citizen beat noises heinous. Nobody's Ono Poverty Sono. Charlotte Avenue authors largest. Man which logo poyser born kitchen wealth. Municipal municipality-owned Paradise McCoy's cashing changed. With Kierra Yeah. I was GONNA ask. You, the precisely. To me. He's says you put up in Tudor. He competitive noticed that he was heckled. Chamois do. To Cleveland he plan Olympia in Columbia Moses Doses Officers Sadhu, he said well a free taking his staff on his. Car, your, volunteer. At a sees the thought is aimed. To Fund about he gives you. Yes esteemed though is you're going to fall, yes. H He fusion Komo Davos not choose he's. But. TROPICALS ETTA COMA. She costarred now thought. Kazakh. SOCK was just single issue for Cedar. Spill Hey boo, goo. Goo. Bows. You history here anxious. Yuma half affect. Who key foam was this cremate as? He Bravo was of anti. He'll be cheated French. Compete compatibilities mantha etiquette prouder Massimo procedural. Issues Kotel. Credited with the Goddess Austin Could Shaimaa the Kaisha she's. Got Ski on Dallas Texas He. Thinks key pausing because music data sandwiches, my no. Cost Associated. Overseer Kavulich I'll use ACOA. Subbing for he's spill. CNN do standard us from Nita's data's Cardis US Forgot Eagles Bissau's the the either Muslim authors boost. To shake, is she? Organism Calma Sev's Adam ancient feel Laura threaten us, not chivas Kabila's Dodi's yet betty Barranca. Allegedly me, she was definitely gecas made money. You Separate Evita, the mouth of the same involved. which so that was the CEO who volunteer live on Tarawa, sports? Almost Brecqhou here, but I know if he's a child pillow. Spot as start from Brooke yards procedure Feta, she flashy. Could you? So that doesn't Sell Davel? PG imprecations spiracy eighty school starting fetus. Use Cash you must phychi. To two thanks rather us from soft. PG OPRAH. Live on third or fourth. Rodney? As. Pro. That I. TRY TO GRAB DOM dominate. Ron. Seehofer Hall. bye-bye! Dodge Daytona. Beach Luckily meet there. Who sold out as consumers, dudas Louise before hitting. AGUA pretzels. Not a mall. Born is hybrid is by. As gone up by. Went up body active telecom. Bullets some following it. Put US fetus feed on each phone cards site. You don't go handing audit a lawyer. Because sky she she's burned. GM is sewing saddles poodle. In quantum any so at a big I. Don't got Hupa. Wish a Kaga food. Bank. Sittings. Elk Immunity, so sales associate dodgy either now Faltas you speeding ancient. Ice Happiness Lucas Hoarders Michio Volka he. You, don't like she. Stella's Magique us to forget at. The humane group. Is Poised to see the. Machine novel. Does Not as view this city. To Repeal Soledad Stadium FAUCI refill burned human community Sharia Brad Alum isotopic faith. You Tougher Siegel see me mediation breath. Milburn. Ice Visual. specialism colony am I. Hear them to companions. KNOSSOS visine as you feel it interesting me stars these. Visual but an. Awesome. Sold out as. Soon. As you do Caputo's Shingo. MESIA's Sir no ethical here. So. going. No evidence us a call here, senioritis. I started on on. Bobby with. Demise some DOC. You? Had is you. At Had is you? Can keep up Octavian dodgy and socio evolve. Could you fought averages? Apache Linda, cafe you want, but failure through you. THOUSAND MOSCOW PISS ON! Is You don't Sandler? Is the issue sequel. ezekie on demand COMPR- shall adidas. Best as you call who. You came. Is just you guys to just putting a front she? Evolved fee equals in his. Own Delicate. Abra Combat Boot tracking always thought it'd keep them in. Their house. You Zuma your. Special, but even also. Eighty Movin Phthalic but other insecurity today zone as Any zoki kitchen exterior raisins. He Pass Obama similar honors I I. Who who can show? You SUMIKA study up balanced Zanthosyn, Quinta demise, I. Didn't you mention it again Huma, Baucom? Of the sequel to fade new fee via quasi, no value of Qantas Agoura cokie. Secure as you do beyond Yugoslav that just were committed cream. To female any measurable FRODO cigarette in saying. Comfortable Studios. In mice comparable hopers. KAMEDA produced repairs Komo's Yes behind me, Anthony Selah. Competent was basically at the put up. More, does your deploys Cool Thomas? Whom you COUPO-, the Game Keno vote. Immunised for zone, also in Tunisia zander process no potsy. Via his Negro. It's always know. WHO's leatherwork in this society? Put up for different Saga as you you. My skin subdued under siege. Eager Online. Thought it. Should go up. Don't method on mice. Won't you don't watch me study as? Jose Isis from with blue to our. CHAGALL. E ECHINACEA. Which missed out of this? You will got guests Shurmur Vigecam K.. Those podcasts has perfidious the mechanism to the bay. Michelle David. You boy, okay. In three, zero, two and so professor grants quality migrants died devoted our Akita. To? Study, but don't care requests. Quincy the bills allos Nokia, shocking problem that Kowloon squalor spectacle is has some with problems in thumper defeated. They shut down on him Deja. Is someone that has started was only me annoyed with the main suburbs, because some by my spotting submits tweet Ono was is. Davis always. Nassir Ashman the carpet pinch. Kabila data. Cabin with anybody see Michalak Seton excitedly is. April facility of the Premier Beach is. Being Source Ninety stop is these you will follow? In, Mali, you will he English Iguanas us as we this composition of a Sarah. For dramatically, none of us Saturday trillions teams days in caucus spinal, but don't put. It could've sow as home. This is confronting luxury Kevin Coyne Mafia combat usually Komo Fijian at A. Cafe You Prakash he logical mellish. Anoeta. Dom I said put out the me. Okay! Inside Cafe, and a so into the mice, yeah. couple. If you can see, dilemma. Cookie Diem, wisdom bergamasco other Tampa in. Guatemala you Chicago Yearly Team Quiz Winter Halina Evita, daily Kierra Sarah cash over the memo in no meal named the familiar fragile Malvo Cuidado visit to Cuba sitting Fuzzy Parkway dodging fletch lever. Limpopo Shoshee, you COCO committed a vaccine. CONDO arrogance squeezes NEMEA 'cause Linda frejus gyms on us in mercury mice. Are He tally in also spice story? For? Tonight? Though, the Moon Klimova conference, gopher associated with Ragavan Walkways Ilya. Link Party Concetta misconduct, Mu, single casula were. Did you hit? The only five zero. Kerma. Linda Match. Them with a second. Citizen, I. Guy Samir, is meals. Repeat Zim. Kids who Fred Soda his Ad Topic Lamar Compa bimonthly, my is. Fragile minimum approved? Mayor Parts of Who for disarmament, owing the cavs Kenyon and she waning Nando Kevin. See Christian charity and say Fred Romo's bank. Mainassara. Of cameras where it is still your bastard Shimmy. Soberly Javer to the same champion of fittings and somebody me saying the man. Java to put your high in the mayor's quizzes dating humorous security. Avondale. Give struggle to cameo. Losing digital cash over notch, you'll pass here. They don't POKE BECKHAM DONALD GETTING ASHORE equilibrium kick by Leonardo, quick cash over now who? Had this shit. There's that veto. McCoy's Acerbity mean me neal. Does he to the put onto a won't I decided gee, so tylenol. Who Do they CHARLOTTA visa? Who confessed by Chinua Goma's physical have pig. Availa Michigan as Miss Quiz, cut audu. Economize high. Mizoguchi converged total Julio's. Live via patties. Sewing squeezes this cheap daughter familiar tune good. Chin problem acquaint fazakas. Don't shoot Al Gore's. You're gonNA live here PG Kumi. avalon precise pieces are blended. If perhaps commuter, put your motor seventy buster ranch. You Foyer seemed engines. Bones miss the Pacific amazing, if as associated the reasons I listened with Yukos's. That you'll Paseo Padre. She can. Launch. Mogae to hang the CESTARI dosage practicable, Musil the buster into the familiar comb toed deposed Muslims deserves for the fragile Modi Voice to Diomede cenovate eulogy means. You are shaky of calcium. Cashew mice with the city located curricula Im- spice, good idea to softer noncommittal place. Canova me as usual numbing put avenue into rap album with Boca merely he's he's. At the company. Never Dodge Aqazadeh being very. Fragile US Amiga discussion with the mice known J. to Helene, staff our. Star financing mortgage cash oheka Castle Boola. The. Quizzes did division Cuando Fragile Tower Personal I. Don't think. Thousand so secret Promo make you vote is is the cash. Prolong God Mamoepa by elite. Aso. Africa. Asia because those spinal feature, Komi, Hickel's UVA could data shoe. Iliev kanakas. Is. Speed, you don't pay off your car could in Kazakhstan, Sato Fred Shaka. Put Starve into until you would. Cashew live. AMIGA deal easier jargons I'm used it and being per hour more Luga. WAS Comb and in pillar casual. Searching I spit on the sugar. Nobody's willing padden helmet quid identified as you could use a key. could use Aki I am Monday. He Lima Zeljko villa negative. Fat Joke. Reggie I'm sure getting chasm was. Simply Seth Raza interest I was little appeals days, but a female. Levy Equa- Kaz soap. Romy rookie causing on Cassia a bone is Mike. The walls ers your fridge. Nab Liangelo Chihuahua missive HIVER. The know each Inada because she will come for you, Chink. League Prime Yukio Your Shockwave Again Gandhi. They'll. Do Jetta, if excuse searching bigger partic- status at the. No more. Mice violating no mice follies. Precise impaneled if we do me. Them other gather accord. Continue to sink Farah think. Must Pavel into on. Their bookkeeping. Spies don't fragile his. Veto Abu, Muslim, Anthony Davis think that April zero geology sue hierarchy allure put were Barbra streisand. Dating and annoys Dr King Catholic. Keta. Bill to king tougher. Lana Nice thumbs up is a key Freddie Mercury. This is following family ideally. Strategy about overtaking of it. Daily Fella oil and that key the police. AMITA must continue Menas. Dental boots were killing phase. If that being Odyssey on cinema, fallacy. No not sugar was stuyvesant Vietnam. Is. Not I spent on this. Net. There's. You cut the SHAG clatter. Keep your geography souheil. You're limited. Might, as police follow migos starting Tennessee with others. Voi-. Maui look at an INADA sing unum. You come for your hair sewn. Retain our scanning thing, g., fikile pigeon Allah pitchy. You'll want to start macron spiral sopping cinema. Mina Papaya in darkness. Tampa yellow comments Fowler. Virus scurvy was nation. I am Ariella. Chromosomes could squeeze. Kill Tower thing tournament, pro vacuum, elmaze Oklahoma severe scenes, not cutting the average CASA JEANS? Hilton is Nike ellipoid. Nevada inch or VIP male elephant, follow think bone. You'll mainly req- his ear sopping seven Kfi Z. Komiya Falcons spice. Follow are not Telefoni Nami Lacombe, so spice badge, but it is Gary Nussbaum's Cuidado. Core bookie who disregard just chow if Kelly Para Nestle quantity for. Fuss zeal chipper Kane Lita Kiefer's. I such interesting Zana's. Check, cow, who. Buys Thomas You. Got Your Z.. Yeah, using Shoghi pig than among Silverado telephone. But in among foreseen. Yeah, you be assured. I've think bunks your fuzzy concussive. Yuping Savon with their the coping. Savak Kenya Cuidado. He'll pick in the telephone number my. Task Shoplifting. Shall telephone different share care. You get there early because Zach style. quenching. A sink outing the US Oklahoma City. Of Tacoma Mia Common. Gi Fowler. You'll Lincoln Sagir in Quincy. Massage, killing thing now I started. Communicating that iology skew Kazakhstan June telephone civil I. Teach it our preferentially guy. I Begin League. As the. VAULTER IEREMIA monkey. Telephone Jakarta Yeah you can't happen to me. I'm ready to more he. Says od NAS mice can skin. For yeezy inching monkeys, Fallon assumed. Here fees. Can precipitate died Miso for help Helmi Eleanor collegiate. Parent search instead. But by Cobra Commute commiserated. Idea has nothing the author for the police is. We gotTA BEING IN JUVENILE KEY LA SCOTT! Incorporated Fragile squeezes Pacific. Imagine come quiz. ASSUME KAREN PURSUE NIMA SHEENA in this video. Of. Wing has share foil armoured vehicle, Moustava biomedica Adam. He deploys Amigo Viacom. You must wrenches dimpled Dodo. You're Safa keeping southern kitchen. You CUIDADO. He'll Elliott. Acquisition. Fragile is Gustav yet on Pocahontas Inch. This facade muscle gladly not owning A. First mcleans scored from NEMEA, French Catholics put your faucet. That's classic at acquitted mill spies thousand strategy Kotani start. COMA IMMUNIZE SEVENTY DODGE ADEQUATE McCallum not afraid. Of the Fridge Eli mission because as you England. Contest, CEO Villa de. Legitimize question I. Don't mean the Lai could undoing. Nola? You folly, promoting Papaya the shining who you're gonNA say refused to. They burn score over to the. Limb Baba's always. Wish to, he coyote. Tacky. Khafagi Fahd. Deploys or constrain Louise Cuidad. At, aecom search vessel spokesman Pressman the fridge. Fuzzy and the Toddlers Advance Coaching Komo Matvey Dodge Harare is switch fees established anti Contrada, Satana Sabe. It's contained. Alienating faster told the Moon might not fees. Is the laws Fella poyser foreseen Amino useful McCoy's -SEGO JIMMY CINCI compliment. Sawsan came into Force Fazio. McCoy's WHO Englaro Milka show. Cu Heatedly Kazu. If I'm running. Though is under the choice by Tammy, Mojo Qantara. Invest Dodge or Kobe's Communist. mcclatch! Part of cash into them. Mind you doing Sahelian. Stunning House acquire let only ca quick Chevron Khalil, but i. put the that Bella. SCUNGY GUA, kick, widow gene of my. Staff Same Sanderson Brad Saudi though. The. Styrofoam the TUB I Land Jim you Ligo. Kashmiris, Lavar innovated denied. It is a staffer, said champions, you peel. Donna Colon emoticons again. The Miss Jill social have in your mind him edge dope prayed might not have a Junkin. Avoid denied, he said. ECOMMERCE owed school scores Asia. They're inside imagination. Tavassoli rain across. Is Not, as IBM Casey Julia Sugar. IMPO quality. Service offense mice. Ashamed shelter is over in. Has Procedure Meet Shadow? Mean if coalition. Coin Damp. Conscience. Unum Age Roger His, Peter. Lopa me follow. Go Sake Johan Papacy in the fridge Sokoto. This season's. Over Save, you. Mentioned abortion. Rally votation dummy you hang. Console missing, Sabi who claim available. MUTAZA citizens commonplaces daily elephants, Capelli's ADOC thoughts Miss Lindsey Graham toffee. Procedure meagerly stuff, Allah, yearly fee for Kinky Change Tangents. No producer mice pushing Winter Tampa. Even cash interview Jane Stop Santiago the God him. Felix College PG but mice can star decision to each the salvage. Don't privilege Szeliga Sonko any Mosey elevate days. US could've in this. Just scooping skomer Hella my Zach. HP's slam rushed through the contact Yoga's moments by being three show para. Spirit Liam To the Bay Java means. You put the almost. Opera needs posing field Canukus, o'bannon. This the students nobody God. They've. Hockey. Born. This. Started questioning Schnur car. Speech you an. Cu. INTEGRAL CALL US Ace. At three, she might fam- bone. Normal fish in the start is name is. Eliana Elizabeth side of the. super rice moments. As you. Sure Awe. See what the my. Boss. I tell you. Alaska show said. Only okay volume of Cash. Value Pissau. owned. Shop Jeff Ritchie Silver Guy. who style, powerful onto hunter, quo, top race super-g Pasi, they made you horseshoe he drank Bronco. Gym. Oh Limo is just in Lima Limo quizzes. DILEMMA VALUES SOME WAY TO DO. Anything about CULAMO NO FERRIS. Chip Woo so he's always studying now as Sauce. Also send quantum number. Today is illness or he the? It is. A lot to me was Asia initia- me is not as. Good changing. That is my fears. Folks that are Super Super Team Gillette. Feel Kamala incipient. In in Komo's. If. GotTa. Go Comey Fussy. He's GonNa come back. Sukey you Marilu Mahmud El Nino. Lot of you know APP. Disease obtained of dodgy subordinate. It'd be own while on an issue might l. L C H Sabi. Vissel Face diluting the sky with diamonds say Alabama Sofala seen on. Congo surgeon I same winning partners PROCR- Allegra boy I think you'll simple limbered automobile sue claridge, buzzy and is. I'm basically embrace how it goes Jing. Secure quarterlane better Joey itself compete with up to his. Computer Class Auditing, but uncle lot initial bronco. Even made you. accused. Blueberry you inter own Berry swing coach for wild berries follow quickly to barrick. Organization not advantage. Zoo seem to coach versus Ukrainians no Makoto your. Zooey was my scholarship were due to. A cousin pokes JJ SOMA G noise. You say Alimentos Zoo. No, no, no, no. No No. No. No, no some. Yeah, those Tamaki. Blueberry air does meet artist skiers eastern. Team Carreno Chew Blueberries and Roberto off Ruta amicus fruit is normally abouna. You deserve the combine, assume blueberry combining. PROXIMAL. Do Ovarian about we'll say stanford project more to couch. She'll. Osha David thing are woman. You'll think megaphone conscious. Northcott or shoe washing clear keys. He didn't they soak. It won't be Ledge. Indicator. myzone saying that what he Australia CEO motorcade. Mice of us. Don't put it down to tell my mouth. My search events cellular charging Chavez, soupy, Jamaat's Massad, no, no as choke super through key prakash clancy Carcass in key device because Kaushal mice staying thing. What's Yummy locked after Romanija covers seen Kim Amina you. Can you can each covers? Fatto just chief Chievo does was malts calliope. Kelly Chan Boys Fato waste. Your Chevy absolute to kiss something boys is shower revelers, enthusiasm, search vessel Mahmoud. Abbas covers convoys photos, and what is correctly answered was sophomore. DATERS INGRAHAM GRANDMA how. It's Paseo Each this moats mccaren is. Resort Casino Finish Fuzzy Yellow Policies Supersede or any leave your. Heroes? ABC saying Hell. is somewhat shallow. Tourism's e clarinet. Holidays on see. So we need to stymie Missouri nothing prevents you wash. Can you feel more motivation? We school recipient in the Saudi premier. Say similar mobile can saying gene I survived. The hell is also fancied Kokomo near Miasma FI. Tie newgate Assad. Point Fisher whom my seat is a sinking Damon his pasta. Happy Though Bible though Professor Lima Kissing. Patsy bookie. We'll keep you sober. You need to Humana in contrast. caused. Judea glycine. Virus scores a snack or move, but his Africa than we do breath in comparison. Calm I'd like to Nevada. On Flash, EVE party. Seen contain plan to. If you need to Moolah Mice, urgent joint infinity to heal, seem to kill. Song Quat Billingham's WanNa me. To. See. Bill isn't on. How does our use? Parasol!

US Meisner Paloma McCoy Asia Professor CEO Kim Amina Oklahoma Google Chicago commissioner Komo Cornell Adams Tampa Mr. Linda Africa Obama Moscow Berry Adele I Africa
The Masters is Postponed, PGA Tour Suspended

The Golf Podcast

33:44 min | 9 months ago

The Masters is Postponed, PGA Tour Suspended

"Now on the it's Mattie in the caddy here's Matt Berry and Michael Collins. This was not the type of special or emergency. Cinematic the candidate. We wanted to do but news. His dictated that here on a Friday Friday that I thought after the Thursday was an unprecedented day in our world but it is Friday march thirteenth. And a day that will perhaps live in infamy for quite some time the caddy is in Florida. In Orlando at the players suspended players. I am in Florida as well caddy. Let's dive into it. I WANNA start with the most recent because we knew of the players Yesterday which I thought shocking news but the shocking news today on Friday is that the masters has been postponed which I let out an audible. Oh my gosh because I didn't know if it was still going to be in the window but let me read the statement really quick and then we'll get to the opinion. This came from the Masters Tournament respecting the health and wellbeing of everyone associated with these events in the citizens of the Gusta the Augusta Community the Twenty Twenty Masters tournaments the Augusta National Women's amateur and the drive chip and Putt. National Finals had been postponed that from chairman of August. The National Golf Club Fred Ridley and believe me Mattie when I tell you here at Ponte Vedra beach as players. This announcement came down as players. Were coming to the clubhouse to clean out their lockers and all their stuff to go their various ways. Some Guy's going home. I S Shane lowry. Hey Are you heading home? He said Nah. I'm just GONNA stay here. He and then. He chuckled and goes. I'm going to try and get some Sun. You're going to be off that long bud. And we laughed about that. But the overriding tone for everyone. Coming out of that locker room and leaving was this really got real and hit home because if there was one place one place in golf that would be able to make a tournament happen. It would have been gusty national. If there was one place that was gonna be able to without patrons they're still be able to have a tournament and feel like the masters. It was the masters in the fact that they couldn't do it or or chose not to number one. I think they made the right decision. And number two goes to show the state of the world. We are in right now. Yeah because a couple of things one with what you said I love you. I WANNA get into the perspectives. You're on the ground. There is player. I want to get into yesterday. What the reaction was to that when I found out just kind of eerie feeling there but a couple of things one. I don't know that the masters was going to be played in front of patrons to begin with. I think that was a locked at. That probably wasn't going to happen a relied. I disagree at that point if you weren't going to allow patrons you don't play the tournament because I don't know that it would've felt like the masters about the roars and so I I told you that we can either cancel the masters or play but it has to be without fans you would have chose cancel. Yes or no I don't I would have. I believe I was fine. You Win the tournament when the NCAA tournament all this stuff started happening with the conference tournaments in crowds. I was like all right. I hold a separate feeling about conference tournaments general anyway but when they said the NCAA tournament was going to be played in that a crowd. I was like well then. Why not just postpone it? Why postpone all this? Here's the W- I don't WANNA get too far out of the Gulf War because it's distort and golf because the masters is the fifth. Pga events that will be played. But here's why because for me postponing something until we get an idea of the safety of this is better than playing at half ass. People deserve to be at American sporting events. They deserve that. That's what we are as a country so if you can't go and why have them because because if you can't go you can still watch it and but because of the changing tone of the time we're in right now the time that we're in right now? We are in a period of time. That is historic. We are living through history right now. No question and because of that. So let's look back at history looking back at history. There are years that the masters was not played. There's already years that that didn't happen. There's never been a time. This is the first time the NCAA tournament played through World War. Two the masters did not well the master. It goes back to nineteen thirty. Four has never been played outside of March or April. And that's this is the big discussion that's going on now since they use the term postponed. When could the masters be played and I was just on sportscenter and I taking they were asking feasibly if it was June or July. And the answer to that question. No the clubs closed this winter golf club so it is only open from the middle of October through may through the middle of May and let me get into that for a second asking. Why can they extend it? Yes no but it has to do with the type of grass and everything. That's it to where it goes dormant and look like a golf club so look Martos yes. Yeah the September stuff going around the the grass be yellow no no the mid mid September the Bermuda there would still be in full because it's warm enough that far sell it would be in full it would just be. Bermuda wouldn't be bent grass which is what the members play on when they get there. So that Bermuda would look fine. It would look a little bit different but it would still look fine. The one thing that wouldn't be there in the middle of September would be the AZALEAS now. Augusta lay source. You give me a choice between values and patrons. I'm taking the Patriots. You know what I'm here's. This is the way I'm looking at it if you are if I have the choice between having sport and not having Sport I'm picking having sport but you're do you understand what I'm saying that you're understeer nine. You don't have it you do know yes. You know where. The Patriots aren't allowed inside the ropes to hit the shots. You know who hits the shot the players but you're not having the masters if they don't have the pressure of the galleries and the crusher is to win the master now. There's so much more to it and I appreciate what you're saying because I've been sitting here for the last twenty four hours. I flew in from J. F. K. Thursday night Ed out here to West Palm and I appreciate what you're saying because Michael I have no damn clue what I'm going to be cancelled a trip. That was supposed to be on next week right. I have no damn clue what I'm going to be doing on sportscenter. Come Sunday morning because it was supposed to be selection Sunday. And we'RE GONNA be talking about because there aren't any sports. So I from that purview. I appreciate what you're saying what I am telling you is that we don't have sports if we don't have crowds we just don't yes we do we do. I'm sorry I disagree with you. We do you understand. Do you understand back you up. I'M GONNA back you up here and ask you a question okay. 'cause this already came up with the players that are out here. Do you think when they were playing in college to try and win a college tournament or win for the first time. Do you think that that pressure is any different whatsoever and and if I would be curious thing if you think it's different now knowing for these guys that it's not you know what the crowds were like? Then there were no crowds okay. It's nothing like they have not played in front of crowds. That is what percent would often valid. Has NOTHING TO DO. Like it was your. That's IT wrong no listen. I'm not saying it doesn't add to it. I'm not saying it doesn't put an element there but the pressure to win a golf tournament or hit a golf shot against people who are trying to beat you and against the golf course. That pressure is there regardless of whether they agree people there or not does not take away from the pressure of the sport but it I agree but it. The crowd adds to it. It had for us. It adds more to it for us. The spectators now it look. Yes it does. Okay you know what then you go tell Alabama Lsu to go playing empty tiger stay. We're not talking about that sport. We're talking about the individual route. We you know what we're talking about. Crowds were also talking. About how on Sunday if you're chasing the leader and you hear a roar. Come up from the eleventh or twelfth gets in the players heads. Uh-huh what tiger just do what just do you know? I'm GonNa tell you know what I'm going to tell you. Why because what are their all around? Golf courses later boards correct. But even if you don't hear a roar if you're a shot behind guess what you you're looking at a leaderboard where do I stand so they're not turning off aboard leaderboard of all places who are always going to have a walk? Listen we are right now. This week this week at this event they had set up that you can watch every shot from every player every shot from every player. Who had nothing to do with four years? Yeah but for who for the people who aren't here for the for the fans? Correct out on the golf course not for the fans on of course dude not for fans on course if you're on a course you. Are you watching it on your phone and not paying attention to the guy standing there? Come on man this year. The fans at home so think about this now so with that technology with that technology. Do you truly believe that guys cannot find out on a tee box on the fairway exactly where they stand in tournament. No I get that but the bigger picture here before we just veer off into a whole other debate because again the story is sports is complete standstill American sports. And you know what I love Golf. But I don't care about the individualism of this sport. I care that people get to be up close and personal with the players during a tournament if they too. I aren't every wising every golf tournament to sell out. Why is it every tournament sell out at that Point Michael? Most has it half of this podcast. There are too many tournaments to begin with. But this is my my point is how people consume what is being given right so gold has only option if the option is look. I'm not saying golf isn't better with people. I'm not saying that it is that it is i. I love everything that you're saying about the roars and I completely agree that it has bearing on occasion. I'm not saying that it doesn't but to say that. Look if we can't have crowds out there. We can't have sports. No no no. No no no that. That's just not that's not true that I would love an and it's going to go in a direction when we first when we start playing sports again. Yeah we're going to do it without crowds i. It's going to happen that's going to happen. I don't because that's the choice. Be telling you. Absolute here's here's why here's why is that? Let me just throw this in there. Here's what I don't think so because we've had enough players test positive for this yet so where at first. We thought that the players are the ones that were endangered. But now that it's gone into players coaches and officials. I legitimately believed that. They're going to wait until the whole thing is before they allow anybody to be in contact with other people. That's why I don't think matters and I don't agree with that and I'll tell you what right because without any sports being played. It's not just about the fans that are going to enjoy it. It's about the gamblers and the faster that we could get sports fired up again. Is the faster that gambling can get started again so in now? This is where team sports is different than golf. Here's what you can do for team sports. You can take two teams and you can both put him in facilities and the referees trainers everyone there and these people are now quarantined and that is it and they're in there for two weeks for to whatever your quarantined in there. Now if I'm an owner of a team I'm going yet we're doing this and here's why we're doing. This is because I need y'all back on TV so we can get. These revenue started up again and right draft kings and whatnot. So we're GONNA go play in it and there's GonNa be no fans but we're going to have TV all over the place. Gambling gets the start up again. You'RE GONNA start so that dictates happen. Okay you under the power of the FANS. Overrules the power of dollars. Yes I know that. I don't think that what I do think is that we just voluntarily cancelled the biggest revenue making machine in Las Vegas. Yes and for the NC Double A. Correct. And that ain't coming back. That's not always. The postponement was a cancel GAM if the gamblers thing that made the world go round. We wouldn't have done that. That's not what I'm saying. I didn't say that. That's what makes the world go round. What I'm saying is the amount of dollars added to what the TV revenue is also bringing in loss. Is I I understand that. They're lost but the fastest way to get that started again is to go. Here's what we can do and I was asked about this. All sportscenter is airway when it starts again for for this for something like that to happen and my issue is golf is played by independent contractors. So it would be difficult for the PGA tour to say okay. Hundred fifty six guys from all across the world. Everyone fly into here. And you're all going to sit in quarantine for two weeks where most players will be. They hammered self quarantine. Well unfortunately that that's not gonna work like he's gotTa be under tour quarantine so that everyone we know did it. The way that is in everyone's together there is zero percent chance of that happening. I totally agree. There's zero percent chance of that happening with golf with other sports. I think there's there isn't a chance that that would happen. Lawyers would be frothing at the mouth. Why be for someone to be made to play something. They're in a pandemic. No no no no. I didn't say I didn't say during a pandemic. I didn't say that it was going to happen right now. When we are in the throes of this pandemic what I said. What I'm saying is once we are through the initial stages right like if we're if this is a scale of one to ten where three right now so after we ten after we hit ten? Then it's gotta go back nine back eight seven and we are going to get to a point in the future when the call. An uproar for sports is so loud that even the players are going to say. When can we go back to doing this again? Yes and the visiting team. Sport is how that's going to players. Don't run the league. The owners and the commissioner run the League and if the owners and lawyers are telling the league offices dude don't do this. They're not going to do it. Why why they won't understand. Why would they not say if we're going to play this? We need these players trainers to come to the facility. And isn't that are you whalers? I know in preseason football unless the guy lives where they're doing preseason air all in dorms are how long's Ad for you willing to guarantee that one hundred percent of the forty people team rosters and support staff. Let's go forty times the thirty two NBA teams. Yep so that's over. Twelve hundred people. Are you an? Let's go officials. Let's tack onto out the door. Let's make it a fifteen hundred person arguments. Are you willing to guarantee that all fifteen hundred of these are a not sick have recovered from being sick and see are not in danger of being sick hence the two week quarantine okay so then but but again you cannot beyond these people's will quarantine them just for the sake of bobby two balls getting his bat in in Las Vegas? The while you're doing it though. What are you doing well? What what do you think the players are going to say when the checks stop coming in a while? The that's not going to happen number one because it's not a work stoppage for slight reasons. They work stoppage for health reasons. Okay so if I'm the owner run out of money how am I paying? You let me let me be clear about one thing. These owners aren't running out of money. That's okay man. That's real easy to say like that's easy for us to say but there's plenty of dues. They got a lot of money tied up in the stock market. And if business is not occurring. Would you thinks happening. I just don't believe we live in a planet or on a planet where the athletes are going to be. Put that whole thing of this cancel. The World of sports we were putting the athletes on the same level as you and me and everybody else getting sick. I don't know that there's ever GonNa be a big enough separation. Between Athlete in public to then put the athletes on a pedestal again and allow them to play an empty arenas I just. Don't I think that we've come beyond that point because now you're going to have to guarantee that everyone involved in sports is healthy and? I don't know that you're going to get one hundred percent agreement on that I just don't i. I don't know that you'll get one hundred percent agreement but I will say that that's the way to do it. And and there will be an uproar for that at some point and that uproar is probably going to come from some players as well. I would agree but I doubt you're one hundred percent right. I don't disagree with you on that. I just think we live as of today March thirteenth at society with this Corona Virus World pandemic that. It's GONNA have to be one hundred percent certain by everyone and not just allow some players doing it. Some players won't show up. We play other players or iffy about it. It's going to have to be one hundred percent across the board. That's what you're going to give it. Let's get back to golf as I know the people see this. This special absorbent might get into that. Let's talk about our friends at Thera Gum. The stress of daily life ways on us all whether you're an elite athlete or just a regular person trying to get through the day muscle pain and muscle. Tension is a real thing. That's why I use thera. May hand-held percussive therapy device that releases your deepest. Muscle tension used scientifically calibrated combination of death speed and power perfectly weighted Ergonomic. Thera guns unique multi grip design maximizes ease comfort and usability with zero stress or pressure on. Forearms hands and wrists. Whether you're treating yourself or others they sent me and the cat we have thera guns and we absolutely love them. I always fire mine up after a workout. It's a great way to naturally treat any lingering pain or stingers and get back to your life. I work out in the morning I come to work I use it right after. I'm done. Try Thera Gun. Risk free for thirty days or your money back by going to FAIRA DOT com slash Maddie. Here's how you spell Thera Gun T. H. E. R. A. G. U. N. DOT COM slash Mattie for a limited time. My listeners to this podcast could a free charging stand with the purchase and seventy nine dollars night at seven hundred dollars value era gun dot com slash mattie faira gone dot com slash. Mattie here is what it was it was. It was back and forth thing this week at the players it was. I ready. Go proceed as planned. Then it was like. Oh we're GONNA go without fans after the first round Bennett was LPGA camps events than it was after the first round. We're going to spend the rest of the players we want to have you here from. Pj Commissioner Jay Monahan on what he said. Ask to the decision to stop the players in any event leading up to the masters and now since we know the masters has been canceled. We're obviously incredibly disappointed to suspend the PGA tour season for our players and our fans. I've said all along. The health and safety of everyone associated with this organization is our number one priority. We tried to be as thoughtful and measured as possible during the during his dynamic and challenging time. We took all the steps within our control and felt comfortable proceeding. I'm proud of the team and I'm a fighter. I wanted to fight for our players and our fans and for this tour to show how golf can unify and inspire but as the situation continued to escalate and there seemed to be more unknowns at ultimately became a matter of when not if we would need to call it a day our goal now is to focus on a plan for the near and long term and maintain the strength. We built through our organization over the past fifty. One years. And I'm confident will do exactly that. So catty you were there with all this was going down at teepee SAWGRASS. Why was it like the Commissioner looked defeated? Beat up. I felt bad for. I felt bad for him. You could you could see how beat up he was and how lacking he was on sleep. Because if you remember on Tuesday he said full speed ahead. Yup everything is as scheduled. We're GONNA keep doing this. And then Thursday that changed and there were text messages and out to the CADDY's that said you know be ready. Were still going to play. But it's GonNa be a little different but be prepared. We're we're still playing as scheduled and that was the decision comes out and we're going to have no fans that's how we're going to keep people safe but that decision strangely enough was made as fans were on the golf course and even as we ask the commissioner what about people that are coming to the golf course in are the people that are at the golf course. GonNa get kicked out. Nope and the people that are coming to the golf course are allowed in. Yep that's fine but Friday. That's it and when I pulled the commissioner to the side after that press conference before going on Sportscenter said what's the most important thing you want me to tell people that they should take away from your decision and he said that the health and safety of players caddies volunteers staff that worked off course and the and the spectators that health and safety is the most important thing which was strange because during the press conference when he decided when when the decision was made that they were GonNa play without the fans. I I asked the Commissioner. Hey Not all these guys out here are wealthy and a lot of these guys fly commercial. Are you comfortable with your players? Flying Commercial to some of these next events after Tampa especially when they're going to place like San Antonio and he said yeah absolutely as long as the airports are open if the airports are open. I'm comfortable with them. Getting on an airplane but later when he was asked what his conversation with the governor of Florida was like you said. The governor told him that the most important thing and the reason that they weren't having crowds out was. You don't want people gathering in more than two hundred fifty individuals you don't WanNa gathering bigger the net and my first thought was will what in the hell's in airport. Dow Somebody just flew from JFK. Hotbeds OF THE COUNTRY. Like it was still pretty crowded in but rial little more sparse than you thought but yes. Every time I hear Mayor de Blasio as I was leaving New York City yesterday declared a public health emergency and I think he said banning crowds of five hundred or more. But it's the same thing like to your point. Well yeah every place like travel hub. An Airport is going to have that. Yeah this is what I why. I don't understand how that part is being overlooked if you have two flights leaving gates next to each other while there's two hundred and fifty people at one gate and two hundred and fifty people let another gate. You just got yourself a five hundred person gathering. Yeah so in that sense and then when Rory mcilroy came out after the first round and said look everybody on tour should be tested players. Caddies everybody and if anybody test positive you gotta shut it down and I think the world's number one player saying something like that along with the LPGA tour cancelling three of their events including their first major of the year was ended up being a bad look and knowing that at the time. The only sports that we're going to be going on was going to be golf the PGA Tour Golf and NASCAR car. I think wasn't going to be a great look. And then the thought of if one guy if one guy ends up having this in let's say he tests positive next week when he goes to get ready for that then then it becomes an absolute disaster for a great and I think that that even though the commissioner spoke to the president of the United States the CDC than the World Health Organization and said he was getting great information from all of these top people in these positions and the Florida Health Administration. All of that went into his initial decision. Saying we're going to play. I think all of that was overridden by the fact of the better safe than sorry and Rory said it. Great to that someone had said to him. Today's overreaction is tomorrow's underreaction and that's where you got to say I don't want to be in that position I would much rather seem like I'm over reacting now. When in the long run it could be the best thing that I do for all parties involved and I can tell you how many players were leaving this place and you said what you know. What are your plans and almost to a man they said. I just WanNa go home and be with my family and when you think about it that way you're like you know what? Yeah we all kind of wanted to de Right now when we're all going through stuff like this it's like you know what you just. WanNa go home and be with your family. Jay Monahan. The last hour released a letter to the fans of the PGA tour. And I'll read it to you. He said no to our fans were incredibly disappointed. Suspense suspend the PGA tour season. I've said all along the health and safety of everyone associated with the organization's number one priority. We tried to be as thoughtful and measured as possible during this dynamic challenging time. We took all the steps than our control and felt comfortable preceding. I wanted to fight for our players and our fans for this tour to show. How Golf can you find? Inspire as the situation continued to escalate. There seemed to be more unknowns. It ultimately became a matter of when and not if we needed to call it day. Our focus will be on how we use this moment in time to inspire the communities where we won't be playing continue inspire once we resume playing and makes your reused the strength of this organization to do good. I love this tour. I love our players our fans. I love our charities volunteers and our partners and I always say golf is a great unifier. Equalizer were hard at work ensuring that our sport has a positive impact in this time of need and so Jay Monahan released that At about eleven thirty. Am and that was a letter to the fans is again. We all will sit and wait and Wonder when we'll see Gulf consuming. Y You you know you're patriot of this podcast and everything in general but stick with us during this and we'll we'll we'll be as flexible as anything without golf tournaments. Maybe we'll try a lineup. Some players out what they're doing. Yeah already had some players some players already that they wanNA call in okay now that they're going to have nothing to do. I said a lot of guys are going to be doing fishing. And even Jay. Monahan said at the end of his press conference he said. Listen if you can safely do it. There's going to be some golf courses open and get out and play golf golf courses out here in the Palm Beach. Area opened still talks and so yeah let look Walter. We'LL TRY TO LINE UP THE ROLODEX. And maybe even if it's a twenty minute conversation a player a couple times a week we will throw that out for you but as in terms of the big picture. Weekly podcast with a bunch of topics. We'll put those on hold until we figure out news warrants and then of course walk back on. We can always talk life with golfers. Man. Let's do it. Let's just put that Rolodex to work. Boy You're not gonNA I was GonNa say yours has got what two phone numbers in your vacation. Tv for your air quotes. Job has just been put on. Hold so you can just get back in there and start working coffee that gentleman. We appreciate the downloaded. Listen tell your friends about it but we will as we always try to keep you entertained during this unprecedented in time. Not only in sports but in the world of golf for the caddy Mike Account. I am the Mattie. Thank you for listening to this special edition of Mattie again for listening to Madina caddy checkout more great. Espn podcast on the ESPN APP Apple. Podcasts or wherever you listen to podcast Mattie and the caddy.

Golf mattie faira Pj Commissioner Jay Monahan commissioner Florida Michael Collins Patriots National Golf Club NCAA LPGA Las Vegas Twenty Twenty Masters Shane lowry chairman Orlando Augusta Bermuda Matt Berry Augusta Community Fred Ridley
PGA Championship Preview Round

The Golf Podcast

00:00 sec | 1 year ago

PGA Championship Preview Round

"The. Now on the T. It's Mattie in the caddy. Here's Matt berry and Michael college. Steve. I and the Patty this is Matt in the caddy the podcast hit us up. Social media have Atty and Keti why the word and ADD. I e that is both the Instagram and the Twitter plenty to get to today. We are coming to you from our seaport studios in lower Manhattan. Pier. Seventeen you guys might know the program get up, I take we've we have invaded their studios because we were thin was striking. This Bethpage Black for the PGA championship. I do start. Kobe right across the way, even a Smith show in to all all kinds of important vote. Mine I know my majors crush, Molly. Yeah. He's not the only one he's got a such a crush on her. I think railing does to this. She might be Bruins. I crush really my ten year old. We'll we'll get into all those weird things later. For the first time first time podcast history. The caddy has out dressed me. Now is the first time brow. Oh, it is the first. Okay. How about this? He's dressed nicer today meet suit he can technically addresses me right now. I'm gonna simulcast. I'm going to simulcast right now on video because I'm gonna ask you during the podcast. Why are you wearing a shirt and tie? So we have a lunch today. I've never done this before. But someone called me and said, hey, how would you feel about going to lunch with clients? Okay. What's the dress code? They were like, we're not sure wherever you're going might require a tie and jacket and Nago, you know, mcadoo, right? So I don't even like wearing pants. But today, it's fifty degrees in New York end up like marching here. I got pants on. I got a long sleeved shirt and a tie. I got all kinds of out of out of my element. My jacket is still not tailored the way it's supposed to me 'cause I didn't have time to get the sleeves done. Some be at this lunch. And look like I'm wearing my grandfather's jagged. I should it. Be clear. I'm going to rehash all of that. For you, Michael is representing the company today would advertising clients and at and it's a big into the big thing and add client and by at clients. I mean, people that will may or may not hinge launch on whether or not they buy ads base slow ESPN the network. This is not what you disclosing who know you're going to. I'm just saying like, I I could be the reason that ESPN loses seven figure about this. Now, here's how I would like you to approach because I've done these last two year. I'm sorry. Eight figures. That's yes. Seven zeros. Yeah. Six zero seven figures is millions. Yeah. But this are you. Okay. All right. So yeah. Anything about the Huambo lunch with say we're at eight now. So yeah. I'll go bathroom that. That's what's that's what's on the t box for Collins today there. There's a big of there's the ESPN Disney up fronts. It's our annual event where you've heard about the open championship. That is nice from the old idea Carnoustie out a role. Oh, you go boss. That's good. They gave it to me though. Pay for it or shocker. That that's all we have embarked on the network today. I'll be a part of the afternoon stuff. Okay. It's red carpets full suit and ties they won't let me. No, no, you go to lunch. I could spill some sauce of my love. I've got the suit the hotel is pressing the suit me right now. Yeah. We're we're going to be good. I'll be in Mattie gear later today. You're in see you're good at the host schmooze. Yeah. I'm not. I'm just gonna be me. Whatever happens happen. And that's exactly awesome. Or it's going to tell you know, you're going to be schmoozing today. Yeah. While I'm just going to be talking him fun at lunch and the last time you had ever done this. Are we allowed to drink? Yeah. You're gonna have a glass of wine K habits. Samuel Jackson beer offer. You a beverage into? You're not required to do anything else later today. Maybe partake. Let me ask you this. I'm not driving. We'll get to the PGA championship just a minute. But I just wouldn't have our ride from long. Island to here this morning. Yeah. You're you're technically closer than I am. And it took me long took me forty minutes. I I was a man of the people this morning and took the subway. I felt like there should be a shower. Right. Nuts me. That's no, man. That's you ask why didn't you take the training? 'cause I don't wanna get tetanus shot. You know me. I'm a germaphobe. That's me that there's you only get to where I was going. I wasn't going to sit in a cab for an hour to get X amount of mile. I did I did a a rideshare did Uber in his. So I wasn't cheap quickly before we get the PJ championship. I wanna ask you a couple of questions quickly. Let's be brief on this about about today's lunch. Okay. When's the last time you had a white tablecloth dining experience like legit white tablecloth? All right. That's all. I remember. So number one over at the no, you eve from several awards out is. Yeah. Yeah. Belly go from out either. Any you can't put your napkin around your neck like a bid who can't you can't get laid across your lap. Is someone going to do that for me? I'll get real uncomfortable rest. They might. Yeah. I mean, you're look man, your I got look away when it happened. You're going from the Caddyshack to the clubhouse today in the New York City club into the private dining room. I will tell you that they do they do this is a rather large tab. And I don't know that the last one that I was at last year. Yeah. They group ordered some stuff for everybody to share. Okay. So I don't know of that is going to work for you. I'm not going to do like the Costanza with shrimp. Don't worry about that. I thought about that last night too. I thought about like, you know, I'm not going full in like normal eating. It's like it. You know, what it is like a first date yet? Accurate. It's just like I very import. Yes, I'm thinking it's like a first date like so successfully the network if we're still up and running we'll give this. So we'll give this six months, plus or minus margin to get into all because ain't gonna happen right today. Oh, if it goes bad if it goes back, if there's no Mattie in the caddy next week trust me that won't be why. It'll be part of the reason though. So we are here in New York City, which gets a lot of now formerly with the SPA. And then we can release the podcast. As we are in New York City, which will get all of the cut away as credit for Bethpage Black second major championship the season. First thing I want to get to we're taping. This at nine forty five AM eastern on Tuesday. Yes, we know that tiger talks at ten AM eastern Tuesday. So we will try to get that coming up in just a little bit. But I wanna start with probably one of the most significant things we've seen in the schedule change this year for for major championships. And it's the weather right now Bethpage because it is cold, and it is wet. And that makes that course, I know it's going to be fine during the tournament. But that moisture is gonna sit in that rough. They do not have sub air it's going to change. I mean, we're gonna see a different course. Well, we now know who has the win bombers. Yes. That's the only shot. It's gonna be is going to be doing that flying three two three twenty and there's would ten guys maybe that can fly at three hundred maybe ten. Do and we'll get to our predictions of the back half as well. So let for the week the high is seventy three and why not until Sunday didn't even that high. So I learned sixty eight Sunday Saturday and Sunday Saturday gets the seventy two Sunday is the seventy three. So look it is brutally chilly out. Championship. Come in from Florida. We skip spring. We just skip it. Yeah. We went right from winter to summer. It was like three as was seventy degrees now, it's ninety and his. Yeah. Up here. It's like they just getting to spring. Oh, let me tell you. I was just an Arizona last week for vacation, and it was eighty five and beautiful. I come back here, and it's forty five and raining. I'm like it is mid may. But it's going to be a factor only because you're right. The next time somebody tells me climate change isn't real chopping him in the throat on onto that. I'm a karate chop Mont care. What would climate change have to do with the cold? It's the middle of may, right, but wouldn't climb. Now, we got to change the song from April showers. Bring may showers may not right up flowers for showers. Yeah. March used to be in like a lion outlook going in April April. Now, we got changed. We are Rian solves a mess. Another we doing where my kids go to school. They don't even believe sticks and stones anymore. Good. They shouldn't so anemic. You to go in there with a stick? You don't some you heave. You've taken a lot of the field out now to be fair. US open Bethpage's the last time a major championship was held of. This course, Lucas Glover one. Yeah. And I don't know. Classification you put him in. But that was also midsummer yet. So now, you have to start looking at the turnament and say, okay, we know what the conditions are going to be. We know the ball's not gonna run at Bethpage would middle of the summer in the New York City area. So. Might. Here's funny. I spoke to Sergio on Monday. Yeah. And Sergio talked about how hitting fairways is gonna be so premium because because the course is going to play so long and the rough is gonna be so juicy gaffe hit and five and six irons out of they're just not gonna done. You're gonna snap your wrist. And there's just no reason to do it. So that he can of Justin Thomas, right? He gone. I mean is out is he out now? He yeah. He pulled out. He pulled out a Monday Monday. That's right Monday. He pulled out and because of that wrist injury, which now apparently, you know, seems to be a low worse than what was expected which is a shame. But that's kind of the way that it's going to be going down. I don't think it helped for him to look at the forecast and go high forties in the morning. Golf course thinks we were talking about it as I was in transit yesterday here. He was talking about how the risk just wasn't as good as people thought. It was. Yeah. And now that he's had this time off took last week off, you would think in preparation for this. But that's a great point, and it stinks because he hurt his wrist on Thursday hitting the shot. You didn't have to hit. You could just chip out sideways. And so that again fairway in this turn, and it's always that way in a major championship more. So now, but usually PGA championship not it's not really a premium. The PGA championship is almost always closer to a regular tour event than any other to any other of the four majors, you know, where the masters, of course, there's no rough whatsoever. But you still gotta hit fairways to control spin. That's 'cause it undulation and the speed of the greens the US open. Gotta hit fairways at that one. Because if you get in a rough you might find like a family that's been missing for a while. Right. We member Orioli like we didn't I was gone for two days and pop up would a golf bag and then the open championship if you don't hit the fairways, you're in a gorse. Okay. So let's take it down to that conversation now because you have players that historically over the past couple of years look at. Aaron Hill's look at Shinnecock. There were a lot of bombers that couldn't find the member Rory's famous, quote, if you can't the fairway his hills, and he missed the missed the cut by a mile so by but who won works KEPCO. So and he's he's a player, and we'll get it again. We'll get into our Shinnecock tick. So that's the I will say this one short hitter that's gonna finish top-five. Ooh. This is good. Let me guess short hitter known as short not not known as a bomber. Let me put it that way. Not not as bomber and in older, Wiley, Vialli Riley is the is that accent was that a clearer now know Zach Johnson. Nope. No somebody whose out whose lives out by where you're from. Pat. Perez dying bang. I'm stunning you went out on a limb. There you think pres- is going top five don't think he's finishing top. You know, I love Pat, but why top-five because coming off his injury. If you look at what he did the last time young came off an injury, and when he peaked, and he is trending the exact same way. And and if you watch if you look at his finishes trending the exact same way and length for him as much as he complains and screams and hollers he loves nothing better than hitting five irons closer than guys hit their seven, eight irons and one big one. The biggest one of all what he got. When I told him and showed him all that stuff and told him he was gonna finish top five. He laughed live and said fi finish inside the top five. I'll give you one third of my check. So we got that take your for real real so top five top five you're getting paid getting top-five 'cause karma's gonna bite him in Budi. Okay. So to your day and pay can you imagine funny negatively for him as a positive? Yes. He's that dude. He's the one dude who actually can play golf angry hit well two guys him in Patrick. Agreed. Yeah. If if Patrick Reid feels like someone slighted him, and he gets paired with that person. He's gonna tear that course, up to you've got this is good. So Pat, presen- your top five absolute. Okay. So we'll we'll we're gonna deathly pay that off next. So it's gonna feel unlike member used to be glories last shot. Right. I think the last time the PGA championship was played this early nineteen forty five or forty nine that it was played in may either ways in the forties, and for us way, not before Harry, but before us, and that that one you. Yes, you covered. It had the had the hat with the presi. You know? It's gonna feel not like PJ. And I kinda dig that it's going to have the weather feel of an open championship in a course, feel of a US open. And I'm fine with that. I'm not I'm going to hold off because this whole year. This the way the schedules are working out this year. I don't think it's going to stay this way. Because I think on paper looked like an awesome idea to have all these big tournaments bunched up, but I think. By the time that we get to the open championship. Yeah. And then that WGC event happens the week after I think maybe not this year. But next year if they try and do that same thing, the W G C is gonna look like the Byron Nelson and that filed other than Jordan speak because he's AT and T Brooks Bracha in who was that. There were three big names there. And now is it. So look the that's not on the schedule. Like I said last week I cover that tournament for five years, and no one ever showed up. That's not true one Byron played. I what. I also said one Byron died. Yeah. Our guys field was fine until the king died while it's fine. It was fine this year, but it's dares where it's it's where it's it's placement is part to do with lace buys a huge parsoes. Course, that's true. I hated TPC Las Colinas, which is where they moved it from then they moved out to. Yeah. We're at trinity forest, and they they can't get the course. Right. That's a lot of it. Now, always notice the field at colonial was historically better because guys like colonial country club. It's historic. It's doubt. Yeah. It's different one of Hogan's alley right? It's a different and got a lot of alleys. You need to stay in the streets. Gets. He many gets like try the nice on bus. Now. He's in alleyways Hogan's another Hogan's alley. But it was I think it was more course, I don't think I think they're keeping the schedule for a long time out because what they're forcing guys to do. Justin, Rose as much Justin Rose, basically said my walk up to the masters preparation this year because the schedule is often it was awful, and my place showed it he said he's now having to a lot of these guys are having to do this. They are now having to mentally prepare for tournament and a major champion to differently because the schedule wears typically they would do a lead up to Augusta always the first major the season. Right. And they would have to figure out how they were gonna lead into it. But they were looking ahead to other events, and they were scheduling differently. The other thing that's going to change the schedule. What is the Players Championship always wanted to be the fifth major? And now you're telling me in March before the masters that's going to be the first I loved it. You loved it in Mario. But are they're never gonna be. Major. Thank you. They're never going to be made their March. We all have whispered. They're marching no chance we'll have want. And they've this isn't anything hinting new for them. But see, here's here's where if you're the players if you're the players in this new schedule own that, we're the first made not major championship where the first major tournament of the no you can't use that word can big just, okay? So the first big tournament own that thing about it. What you're not though, why WGC's man. I don't think. Reverend season works Saint reference. He's do you want to make an adjustment? Don't start Gulf until January in Hawaii not happening. Not happening. This is what I'm saying. So all of those dues when their schedule starts off in October. And all these big name guys not showing up anything other than like where they can get paid. It's gonna be it's gonna be a problem, and they're finding that out this year. And we saw that you just said a perfectly Justin Rose do was world number one and was like playing a fifteen handicap, but you know, what make the adjustment. And that's all here. Make the adjustment on the fly. Like when you're in it already. Well, wasn't a surprise the schedules out here popping scheduling to behave by the way. What I'm this? Exactly why I'm saying we're gonna find out next year. When guys start not playing in big events on the PGA tour, and then the tour is like it's not gonna work for us. Yeah. Well, they're gonna I gonna tweak other events. They're not tweaking the majors. I'm telling you because this feels good. We're just four weeks for moved from the masters we play yet. But if what you mean, we haven't played it yet. Let's see. Let's see what happens is. We say feels good feels. I'm telling you before they put a pagan ground on Thursday feels great that we're four weeks removed from the masters, and we get to watch and other major this week. I think that's awesome. I was cool with. I was cool going master's players. See what I'm saying? Ask you mayors, and that's why the players felt great in may cause guess what we didn't have to deal with in may at the players forty and rain, you know, what toughened up. All right, Mr. tetanus shot on the subway. I can imagine the look on your face to union sit down. Did you the whole on? I didn't. I didn't touch the ball. I have low center gravity. I ski in Warren purell down that bar rubbing interim an. Like my Hawaii hook onto the touching anything. Rela would've. Okay. You can hold them you taste in the subway. Eight fifteen eight twenty there was people. Russia Leinen would at least it was the morning. So everybody didn't have you know, all the work on 'em. You don't know of any overnight shank could have been the overnight shift through that. The last time we was on the subway. I did have dude in construction worker had and construction gear start singing in preaching. Yeah. Just out of nowhere. And I'm I'm I saw some stuff this morning. I saw this dude. Go to a woman. These are homeless guy. He had his cart. And I'm getting my metro card at the time, and he goes up, and she's got a baby carriage, and she's get-. She's waiting for the elevator and homeless dude, walks up to her, and he goes is there a baby in there? And she lost her mind. Like what you mean? Is there a bay? I mean, of course, am baby. I mean, and I'm and I'm still trying to like wake up see because Collins, we don't deal with none of this kind of stuff down upon Vedra beach in may. But this is what it should be. It major you shouldn't we shouldn't have had to wait from April to June. Shouldn't have. And what about the players? It's a big tournament a really really big tournament. But now esque, but now we have month to month, we have June July majors over let's get into FedEx. And I think it's planned perfectly WGC might. But let's be honest with each other right here right now. Art, WDC events aren't always the best there. Sometimes that's play. Yeah. Sometimes they think they're great WDC Mexico. Not great. WBZ match-play, not great. So maybe we're not missing much. Maybe we're being told WD Caesar big events or they're trying to make them will. Then that happens when you force it. That's what I'm saying. So throwing WGC out is like a oh will they're not benefiting from us. I don't care. I I prefer the marines. Putting a whole member what we're doing today. So there's like think about the tour whole lot of corpse putting a whole lot of cash give layers memorial. You know what turnout? See let me ask you something because tiger hasn't played since we ain't seen this, dude. Since the masters, which has tired now with this condensed schedule. Like, you think he's Charlotte would have been perfect while Hollywood have been perfectly lead up to this one right here. Big course real not easy. The score. Always normally stays right around the same out. He don't show up. So now, we're going to go. PGA championship four weeks. US open memorials in between it he gonna play. I it depends on it. Does this week? We're going to learn a lot about tiger was this week. And I say that because somehow like if he's the one driving the PGA tour and the next four times, we the the next three times we see him is only at majors. How do you think the tour gonna feel about that see like you love the schedule? But now the only tournaments he's playing the next four tournaments are not PGA always played condense schedules entire well. Not as entire I came up when he was twenty one he was he he's played connect- schedule for a long time. I'm just saying the PGA tour wants their biggest star at their events. And the biggest star is Tiger Woods, and he ain't play in no PGA tour events. I don't care you. I'm not saying that you care the schedule to or shouldn't care either. Because in the month from the time that he won the master's until we sit here today on may fourteenth. Everyone's been talking about golf because of who tiger who's been talking about the Byron Nelson. No one ever does though bit. What is your connection to this? Byron nelson. That. So who's talking about Zurich, no one? That's a problem. If you're the PGA tour who was talking about the sport every about the masters Tiger Woods, but nobody talking about golf on the PGA tour. But that's all you need is on the sport. I am not if nobody's watching if no one's watching until the PGA championship, which how much of that money is the PGA tour. Get none. How much they give for the masters nine. I see your point. Yeah. I think bigger picture we have to look at buzz around the sport rather than governing on the PGA tour. I could care less buzzes, not paying my rent buzz. Does not pay the Bill his bringing people out of the course, though. And I know that tie Tigers not bring people out to tournaments Mr. Tigers not playing in. What were they doing the last four years Howard? How is the sport even on its feet because he wasn't blame. Saying it's completely different out though. He yet. But when somebody's out and there's no opportunity for them to play. Look, here's the best example think of what happened to that tournament in Tampa when he played and then this year leading up to it people thought he might play again, and the place was you talk about buzz on fire. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. And then that was that tournament because of the schedule changes that tournament have mega field even without tiger great field for so I'm just saying I I love the way the schedules working out. I'm still I'm not sold on it. Well, I'm not sold on it on the overall scheme of things we're gonna find out next year. Now getting back to this course, and what's going on here. The thing that I'm nervous about now is because everyone is in this different scheduling, and how things are working out. I'm nervous for a bunch of injuries now. Well, yeah, I mean. Will parlay that? Let's take that back to tiger to what I was gonna say about forgotten the scheduling tangent. Yep. We're gonna learn a lot about him this week because he hasn't teed up since the masters were because he played a lot more than you needed to lash trying to get the point to to qualify with FedEx Cup. So now, you're talking about major championship feel fun after one of the masters historic one that he's now gone on the record saying this that one might have met more than the rest of him because he's gone through. So they come up here early. So why is his zinc? He's gonna stay on his boat since he got outed. Yeah. You think so? Yeah, they'll have major of president type security around there. That's true. In fact, he's said in his press conference, which is going on right now of his masters victory said, quote, it was not like old times. It was very different. I just wonder how and I'm the biggest tiger stand out there. How he's the betting favourite in the favorite. I just don't because people 'cause it's. Possible to bet golf. I just don't see him after a month off after the biggest one of you could argue as life since he was twenty one are you doubting? Tiger Woods L. Yeah. How dare you to win? Yeah. You sound like me talking about tiger witted major to compete. No to win. I think it's nearly. Anniversay imposs-. Difficult for him to go out there after 'cause you can't simulate adrenaline and the adrenaline crash and now because of temperature this is the this is the factor that messes tiger up more than anything else. So he just mentioned he was asked about the scheduling, which we were just talking about an and whether or not he would play between majors and the future. And tiger said, quote, I'm always looking for brakes now with the schedule. It's trying to find breaks I wanted to play quail hollow. But I wasn't ready yet. What does that mean though, that means that he ready how I think physically and mentally he was exhausted from the math? I think here's mental. Here's what I think he woke up I think he woke up and like, I'm sore. Like, I heard correct. I just won the masters was worry the week before Charlotte. When he did that little thing on his discovery. The whatever his social media thing that work tiger everybody talked about how and I'm doing air quotes gingerly. He was walking into that thing. So you know, my thoughts on it. If that was it roll credits. I'm fine. You know, how I feel about the Tigers situation. But I do believe he was he was not one hundred percent the lakey. Yeah. A little what what I'm sorry. You're not gonna ain't nobody telling me when it comes to the dude who's the mentally strongest golfer that we've ever seen that he was mentally tired. Like sorry. That's like somebody telling me when you hear performers os. You can't sing because he's mentally tired. Okay. Whatever. Like, this be tell the truth. Like what happened? What's the real deal? I don't I am buying mentally tired. I I buy that. I think you can be mentally exhausted from everything he just went through nine a whole new phase of life for him. Not after a month. You cant. All right. So when we come back, we'll continue to give you some Doug gets from tiger. And his press conference. We come back. We're gonna talk about three guys that we each like. And then we will officially give you our picks from dot com. But first we all live night out. Whether it's in our favorite band and personal being there in a crowded cheer on our favorite team with vivid seats, you can attend the concert show or sported about of your choice at a great price, vivid seats detox source for tickets for all live events. You wanna go to you can sort by price or look for seats. In the section rove your choice to make things even better vivid seats, giving listeners and exclusive promo code for new customers to receive ten percent off your first ticket order to save even more money. Go to the app store. Google play. Download the vivid seats app. First time customers can use promo code Gulf for ten percents off your first vivid seats order every purchases back by hundred percent buyer guarantee for the biggest concerts and games to the hottest theatre in more vivid seats, hasn't all download the app into the promo code Gulf for ten percent off your first order on vivid seats, make memory that last lifetime, vivid seats, Tope you get to your favorite live event as we works suburban garden, Catholic Catholic without studying it he notice moves like to its inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that when it got Nomi is about how gyco not only saves people money, but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer on second thought. Maybe God knows to carefully people might talk. Welcome back to Matty and a caddy our predictions of who we like for the PJ. Championship coming up in just a minute. But I I love that Dollar Shave Club has everything I need to look feel and smell my best. What I love more is the fact that I never have to go to a store. That's because one Dollar Shave Club delivers everything I need right to my door in two. They keep me fully stocked than what I use. So I don't run out. Here's how it works. Dollar Shave Club has everything you need to get ready. No matter what you were getting ready for you name, it they have it. I was getting need to use a lot of this on the subway this morning. Including dollarshaveclub toothpaste. How often do you have to set it up automatically sent to you how nice to never run out and never have to think of going to the store to buy toothpaste how much cleaner does your mouth feel since you started using it how much freshers your breath. Again. A lot of people needed that on the subway this morning say you handed it out. I had to handsome discount you buy more. And you save more. Here's what you have to do right now. They've got a bunch of starter sets. You can try for just five dollars like their oral care kit. After that, the restock ships regular sized products at regular price. So what are you waiting for get your starter set for just five dollars right now, dollarshaveclub dot com slash Matty that dollarshaveclub dot com slash Mattie. Maybe I will be holding the signs at the subway in my ride back, and it's the phone clean. My head is repealing a look dollarshaveclub slash Mattie. I can't get any money. But. I would love to give this toothpaste. All right. So let's go and tooth being word. I did. Hey. I might not need it. He's got a Cleveland. Gum lasts for a while. I long time to that one in front tooth it. Take care of Russia. Take care of it. So I do I'm gonna I'm gonna league with my buddies for major championships. And we pick six golfers. Any six you want? Okay, and sui want streak this month and people when I put my pick six out there for the masters. I got ripped 'cause you can go talk if you want, and I buy large went chalk, you only get point. If your guy finishes in the top twenty. Gotcha. Starting at twenty. You get one point nineteen two point eighteen three points all the way up to one. You get twenty five point if a guy that you pick wins. Okay. But you get minus five for guys that missed the cut. So you can go Chok all you on. But you would be amazed. How hard it is to pick six dudes correct editor scores. No such thing as chalked when it comes to pick and six degree. You can't go six there's no six job. And so when I put these guys out there, and then like, oh, it'll go to land. Hey, you pick anybody else. I didn't even place in the top fifteen and I had tiger tiger. So you got the winner. I had a Rori with didn't do anything for me. Did you have Justin Rose? That I had a rose. I mean money away. Hey, you're right picking golf is an inexact science of how you are how good a guy even looks on the driving range. That's one of these cracks me. Hey, man, how they look on the range. Awesome. The way they all do their pros. Yeah. Phenomenal. How you know? Ranger even tiger has a nickname for himself on the range ranger Rick range. Rick and awesome. So I have had caddies come to me and go do not pick. God this week. He's hitting it horrible, and he'll be hitting it sideways. And then one thing clicks on the I t next to you know, two guys in contention on Sunday coming down the stretch finishes second or third, and there's always an out there guy. That makes no sense or here's what we're gonna do. Here's what we're gonna do. We're going to pick. I wanted off the radar guy. Okay. I want a semi favorite and that I wanna favorite and then we'll go to who. We like we'll go to picked on dot com. Gar. Fischel dot com. Pick on the record. So we're going off. Off the radar guy, a semi favorite at favorite. That's not our draftkings pick. Does that make sense kind of? So give me an off the radar guy off the radar guys. Papper is yet is true. You d you are big on just because you can have res- is off the wreck off the radar because him finishing top five. I'm telling you man, it's going to happen. Okay. So that's you're off the radar guy. Lonnie Jones just came. He's got angry birds head on well Scully. We've gotta get through this for before Monte kicking us out of the studio. All right. So my off the radar guy. There's too I want to say, but I'm gonna go with based on two guys in who you're gonna take two guys are Luke list and Thomas Peters. Oh, wow. Okay. To off the radar guys that are both bombers that fit. The Bill of what you need to compete as called the Belgian bomb, I know. That's why I'm leaning him. So I'm gonna go Thomas Peters is my off the radar guy that I believe could work as cadets. Here's a couple of reasons why one is long to it's going to feel a lot like European weather out here. Much at Bethpage Black for New York chase. That's my off the radar guy. Thomas the greens. Give me now a mid tier favorite. Jon Rahm to good one. No one's talking about Rahm this week. And that's he's the kinda guy that's going to compete long and straight long and straight. And I think. Mentally ready to bounce back after the Players Championship if he gets into contention, and I think he will also not just long, but strong. Yeah. So I like that one. I was looking at me rough not scared of it not scared of especially if the greens are soft, and he can hold these greens low bit. So yeah, Jon Rahm. My middle tier guy is Sergio Garcia who I was with. I'm telling on Monday. And all I had to do was say house Loas you doing and that dude's face lit up so much it's twenty years. So Adidas launch twenty years shirt of him in nineteen ninety nine hitting that shot from behind the tree. I'm about the posted. And I did actually did like a long interview with them talking about it at this event on Monday. So Sergio's, I I like Sergio I think he's a middle. Tear do that you could long enough long enough. But he's got he's got that it creativity. He's got it. And so I like Surgers a middle tier favorite his putter. All right. So scared was give me a favorite that. You didn't pick on dot Brooks Kapka. You didn't pick Brooks. But you like Brooks I like him too. I like him too because he won the US open. He wanted to PGA championship. He did all he needed to do to compete and win majors. He's long his game fits I kind of like Brooks already defended the US open what he's defending another major bra. What do you think of Rickie Fowler? Did you pick him? No, okay. What do you think of Ricky's chances? I wouldn't be surprised. Either. Would I I wouldn't be surprised if the PGA championship, but I'd still go back to how I still feel like Valhalla was stolen from him. I still. Feel like that. Even though I love Rory, and I was happy form Heke. He sent a signed picture to my kids. Yeah. From that win from his own collection. And I can't thank them enough for doing that. I still think Ricky that one was taken from Ricky because of the way the weather worked out on. That course and everything it was just the finish of that tournament. Stings? I was with Ricky Saturday night hung out watching a movie and eating with the family. So can he win this one wouldn't surprise me? He no long enough. And I almost exactly I almost played Ricky just because of two things one is length because he is long enough for a little guy. But to the New York crowds it there's one that they're going to embrace if they're correct wiz there. All yeah. So to outside favorite. So my my way gone guy Thomas Peters. Okay. My middle favorites my middle guy. Sergio Garcia and my under under the radar my favorite that. I didn't pick to win. Rickie or Brooks. Okay. All right. So I got Pat Perez. Are you at rom who? Brooks kepco. Well, John roms sixteen to one. Yeah. That's that qualifies middlemen. He's middle. I'd so now for the official ESPN dot com. Pick lead us off Tony FINA. Damn it. Exactly. Shout out the Michael eaves. Look stuff hitting reply all it hitting replay Hicks. I don't wanna know who you pick care. We'll read it on DACA. I can't I thought it was safe with the female pick guy. No, man, Tony female, everything this sets up so perfect. I am grazed not even funny because of his length and attitude like you in in this setting demeanor. Same thing the great demeaning attitude nose. Not. Yes, it is. Jock. We both picks pheno. But you're right. Here's what he has. He has he has that. He doesn't get rattled one to he's finished the top ten four his last five major starts. He again competed at the master's, and this is a this just feels like the time where he is a PDA first time winner, he's slowly. But surely working his way up that list of like, oh, he's a great player, and he's never wanna major. Now. Granted he hasn't really want much of anything. Well, he hasn't been around. But he finds his way into major championship contention in conversation. Like, that's man now, I can't even take credit for when I'm right because we both going to be right now. I won't Pat. Perez data. I love Pat. I love bow on. I will say this. There is a player. Yeah. Who heard the show that Pat Naidoo when you had made that declaration, okay, and said player said that if he was in solo fifth and Pat was in solo sixth that this player would actually make a bogey on eighteen so that packet finish Tiber fifth and had to pay me that one third that'd be fun. So now, we have a little undercard Shinhan. I know that that would never take place for real for real. But it would be hilarious. If it did come down to that. It will be female. I love you know, who Herrick pick. I don't 'cause he didn't hit reply all like mega leaves. He's the homeys ease every time. We do this hits reply all when we have to pick just a winner. And that's it. So the roundtable questions haven't come out yet. I've been doing. Okay. Let me ask you this. Emmy a prediction of where you think tiger finishes. Does he make the cut? Yeah. He makes the cut. Okay. I think he's outside the top twenty twenty five. Yeah. Do I find it? Wow. Look, I'm like funny, man. You you have going you have Cumali clan. Flipped. I and how you felt about tiger. Now, you're like man is. I'm already said if he shuts down a my I haven't gone anywhere. I just don't find it possible for him to just suit up. And win the PJ only people that feels that way. I know I don't get it either. And I'm hearing this from other golfers. But I would say, right. They'll say Tigers got something some it going on right now. But he can just show up. And he can't hydrogen gone. I'm the biggest tiger fan there is, but I'm also realistic. I'll know about that. What did I say at year ago east like tiger shows up? He wins the masters shoot. He's like tiger showed up. Now. I'm telling you. We haven't seen tiger show up in a long time. And I think it's nearly impossible for him to go out and win so Eastlake tiger can't show up this week. No because he's been playing. He's been off from month. Celebrating the biggest major championship win of his career. So what's he been doing? You think by the way, Bethpage Black not the track just roll out of bed. I'm ready. That's what I'm I don't get. How is the betting fan? I don't get this because it's Vegas because it's Tiger Woods. And because you learn the hard way after taking what? Was that eighty what did that do put down ten thousand dollars for tiger to win the masters? Yup. And he cashed out eight hundred eight point five million. Eight hundred fifty thousand. Yeah. But that he put that he won. He put ten thousand dollars down at tiger eighty five to one. So a couple of quotes request before we could add here. We're getting stared at by people that need the podcasting room here at our New York City students just walked away. I'm trying to get him to come in to say was heights familiar theme, but worth repeating with tiger this via the Twitter about the schedule. Quote. I knew I was going to play less this year ended to give myself the best chance to win the events that I play and on Bethpage Black. He said, quote, it's going to be a boatload of fun. I like those little double entendre with his yacht. Being more than a double on time light. He is ready. He knows how brutal that it's going to be. He knows that. It's not gonna be fun. So he's already set it up for the brutality. That will be Bethpage Black eye. So you give me I think tiger finishes inside top twenty five and out top fifteen inside top twenty five. Yeah. He's in between twenty five and fifteen. Okay. I think he finds a way I think, you know, the hardest day for him will be Friday. Friday's going to be the so day why? Because Thursday, he'll be able to get through it on the dreamt plant smart. And then once the adrenaline crash happens, then it's going to be you know, what I do like about he tough. I liked it. He's off early eight twenty four AM. I believe this teatime on Thurs Thursday alike that because you're going to get an idea real quick. Played in that, cool, weather, and the cool weather these going see that does work in his favor because it gives him the most time than to recover, right? He's going early to late early late gonna know he's going to know the number. He's gonna have the throw throw on their going into Thursday or into Friday. Yeah. Okay. We've gotta get outta here into their podcast coming in here. That's the Bomani Jones is coming in next. So, but I Don he's he was at the window. Just a second ago. I was gonna try and get peak. Ed say what's up, but he's not gonna have to get over it. Yeah. So for the caddy, Michael Colin, good luck at the lunch today. Big day for you, the only big day. Hey, the company rests in your hands, though, worry let or not don't worry. It looks great. You know, what we all marvel? We're good. It's true. Where I don't be a superhero, he's the caddy. Down on that podcast. Thanks for listening to the caddy checkout. More green ESPN podcast on the ESPN app. Apple podcasts for wherever you listen to podcasts. Mattia caddy.

Tigers PGA US New York City ESPN Sergio Garcia Mattie Bethpage Black Pat Justin Rose golf New York Byron Nelson Tiger Woods Twitter WGC Pat Perez FedEx Collins Justin Thomas
"Happy Trails #41"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:05:49 hr | 6 months ago

"Happy Trails #41"

"Previously the Tony Kornheiser show. We played in I was This this was like mummy. Dearest level stuff on my part like put it out. How Gore like sighing when my kids would like to yeah, I'm I'm the worse I really mad, and then like a a-. My older son who's eleven didn't speak to me. for the last seven holes probe in there, yeah! This is General George Washington, and you're listening to the Tony Kornheiser Xiao all righty then. Michael Kornheiser is here socially distance at six feet across from me and my uncle Benny's table. We're in the dining room of our house on a day that in Washington DC is alleged to get up to ninety five or ninety six degrees, which we haven't seen in a long time. In fact, the last two days have been beautiful in terms of temperature and lack of humidity, but I guess we have gone from that to summer will do. We're going to have three guest today. Because a lot of stuff has happened, and it's just it's better to do it that way in next week. Michael and I will do an actual. And I will have saved up millions of things to talk about, but we want to bring on David Aldridge I. Because David is in the unique position of having grown up. Watching Wes unseld play, and when he grew up, and became a sportswriter at the Washington Post getting to cover a team in which West unsettled was either coach or general manager, and and a fixture in Washington for those of you outside of Washington. I cannot tell you. How giant of figure, literally and figuratively wes, unseld is in this particular area. He is the most accomplished most famous person having to do with basketball here. Spending a career here, you know it's he may not be. Down the road, he may not be as accomplished as Kevin Durant. And had len bias lived? You know he might not have been as accomplished as we don't know these things, but wes unseld won a championship in got to four finals, and the team never did either of those things without wes unseld and David. You grew up in DC you went to the Matha. You had I'm assuming you had to have watched those bullets, teams and rooted for Wes unseld. Oh sure. Absolutely, you know he he was, and this was before. Joe Gibbs got to Washington. So you know the only athletic? Success. Washington teams had with would have been Georgia. Alex teams, you know that got to one super bowl, but lost and made some play-offs in one. You know one a lot of games and certainly turned that franchise around, but. But nothing. Comparable to what West on sell Elvin Hayes and Bobby Dandridge in those great bullets teams did in the seventies. They may four finals in eight years. They finally won one in seventy eight. But certainly were one of the dominant teams in the NBA that for that decade during that decade I mean it was the the new you know. The Celtics kind of rebuilt themselves around Dave cowans and Jo Jo White and those those teams that were very very good. They won that they want to I. Remember correctly in the decade and the Knicks teams that at one in sixty nine. We're still very very good and had great battles with the bullets. Especially when the bullets were in Baltimore before they moved to Washington so throughout that decade, the bullets head competition, but they were one of the great teams in the League back then and West was the focal point as you said he was. It's not close. He was the most important player in the history of that. And certainly the most successful player in the history of that franchise as a player did not accomplish those things as a coach or a GM Some of what was probably his fault, but some of it was not so you know you didn't have that success, but but as a player was was the guy for that franchise. We should talk about them a little bit as As a player in and we'll buy made this point yesterday on PTI that if you look at his career scoring average, it's ten point eight and you think well. How good could he be well? You need to understand that. He patterned himself. He was a center in the mold of Bill Russell that defense and positioning were more important than scoring points. He had other people on that team. That could score points. There's a reason people are voted into the top fifty players of all time because they're. They're great and surpassing players and West unsettled was. You know he was a rock. I mean physically physically. The Guy was just a pizza square. He's just such a rock you and battling all the time against as you know, the laniers and the Kareem's and the Willis reads in a Dave couns all the time giving away height but not giving away girth I mean the tell people how he played God he was. Well he was as you mentioned you know. He probably you know. He was MVP of the League his rookie year, right and rookie of the year yeah. Did that was a guy. We like to call Wilt Chamberlain I know. those are the only two so he certainly could score as his. Physical body kind of broke down yet. Really bad knees the second half of his career he could not shoot and score to the level that he he did earlier in his career, but you're right. His game was not about scoring. Is Game was about? Defense rebounding setting those teeth, rattling picks for players that didn't see him, and even when they did see him come into, didn't matter because he was as you mentioned a wall, he was a square He was Westwood Fat. He wasn't fat. He was just a square. He was a big strong, incredibly strong Guy and part of what I wrote about Yesterday and today was how you know when he was growing up his father. was worked. He was an oiler. I guess if anybody remembers with oilers used to do, and worked in construction for International Harvester and he taught West and his brother how to build houses, and they built a lot of houses, and they laid a lot of brick and mortar, and they did a lot of work on their on their. How on their home terms of yard, work, farm work and throwing a lot of Hay bales around stuff like that and. It's how he got strong, and he was country strong, as we used to say and and was the strongest guy in the league. Probably, and that's what he did he laid. Would on you in back in those days you know the game was much more physical and that was his game. He used to always tell me that. He didn't win games in the fourth quarter. You want him in the first quarter. You know because he would start people in the first quarter, and by the time the fourth quarter rolled around, they were too tired of to keep up with them. and so that was his game and it was a game. In which as you mentioned he let other guys who could score score and he did the dirty work to help him win. He had a relationship the owner of the Washington NBA. Franchise now is not the owner. then. The owner then was a Poland. And the relationship that Poland had. With West unsettled is an I I David I. Don't think I'm stretching it to say that a viewed him as a son. And would never let him leave. Ever I mean. Those were not days of free agency, but if they were in west, so I wanNA leave able to say no, no, no, that's that's not going to happen. You don't see those sorts of relationships between team owners and players. Know anymore because you know, the bullets were one of apes primary businesses. It's not like it is now where you know these these hedge fund. Guys who were billionaires. You know this is just a line item in their company. You know not. They don't have that. That kind of mom and pop relationship. With, not just west, you know dozens of other employees I used to always marvel that I could come back ten years later and see most of the same people who were there ten years ago. dylan their jobs are slightly different jobs. Eight did not like to fire. People kept people around a long time, and in all honesty, probably longer than he should have for. You know considering that the team wasn't very successful for a long stretch of time Again, after West is playing, as they really kinda struggled to to be a consistent winning team but that's how it was, and you know even through. Long through at a different iterations to having that same I should say a similar relationship with a guy like Koran Butler for the end of life. Corron gets very emotional when he talks about how A. You know gave him a contract that changed his family's life. You know what I mean. And he had that kind of relationship with people, and it's just how he was as a person, and we all know Abe wasn't perfect. They did a lot of bad wrong things, too, but he but in the main, he had that kind of relationship, and it was crystallized by his relationship with West unseld to be sure. So, so it is undeniably true that since West has stopped playing, the wizards have never or the or the bullets, ballitser wizards have never gotten to the final. Their success rate is marginal They you know every once in a while. They've done a little bit, but they never had anywhere near the consistency that they had with West unsettled, and he was part of management as coach and GM. I said yesterday on PTI that it made me feel sad because I really admired him as a man and made me feel sad that they didn't have any success when he was either coach Gm. Do you have thoughts on that as to how that happened? Yeah I mean again. It was a combination of things and I was there. You know certainly will. He was a coach him. Directly, and indirectly, when he was GM, and and I like I said I think part of it. You know West that you. You have to take responsibility. The head coach of the GM you have to be responsible for the product on the floor I thought those teams played extremely hard. And they get a lot of the right things that you that you have to do to win games, and that's why they were in a lot of games, but the problem was. They just didn't have enough fallant Certainly in the eighties going into ninety S. you know they did not compete. Compare to the the Celtics teams or the Pistons. Teams of the bowl teams you know any of the really dominant teams in the East you know they. Their best players were guys like Jeff Malone Darrell Walker. And Jeff! Malone was an all star player, but he wasn't. He wasn't an elite player. You know what I mean so. And the guys that they hoped would become elite players. You know guys like John. Williams. Who got hurt and then gained a hundred pounds, and you'll get himself out of the League essentially You know they couldn't recover from those kinds of mistakes and they never were quite bad enough to. Have the most ping pong balls and have the chance to get you know a Alonzo mourning or a shack or players like that could turn things around for them, you know they always seem to wind up taking six or seven or eight in the in the first round would would they could get you know com- googly out. It was a good player, but it wasn't a great player by any stretch of the imagination. You know what I mean so those were the kind of guys that they were getting would never. pull the trigger on the kind of know real big deal that could get them a dominant young player That's that's on West. And that's what management and he became management, so it was on him, and they had the injuries of, but the bottom line is just worn talented enough to beat the the beat, the best teams in the East and and and you know become a playoff contending team I mean my best team. In five years was forty and forty two. That was watermark. Yeah, they had that the government. Government they had one brief moment where they actually were swept by the Chicago Bulls and Michael Jordan in the playoffs, but they played very well, and they had Yogi murison very difficult to deal with the other team standpoint. They had Chris Webber they had you on Howard. They had rod strickland I'm probably leaving somebody out, but there was reason for optimism, and it was completely tube D- Juwan Howard decided he wanted to go to Miami. Deep meaning. They forced them into stay. They gave a Mulligan on that and Weber. I'm no fan I. This is you know I'm just not a fan and it didn't. It didn't work out. You know what didn't and that was the one shining moment. Wouldn't you say well Sir you know that team was very certainly had a lot of potential. looked like it was going to be. You know a very very good team for a Lotta years and again. That's where everybody's gotTa. Take some of the blame on that. You know we're. We're webber and Howard immature back. Then sure they were they made mistakes off the court that did not help them but he was also reactionary. Yes, instead of holding onto to very. Players he's rated Chris Webber in ridiculously bad trade traded young for old and big for small twice. Yeah, and it was just stupid, and instead of you know you know. Whatever you think of David. faulk I've always said they've talked knows what the number is and when he tells you. This is what it's GonNa cost you. You should pay them and not drag it out and he could they could assign. Juwan Howard for four years and twenty four million dollars, and they didn't do that and they let him become a free agent, and he went out and got one hundred five million dollars for Miami so instead of doing what you should have done, which is Faye the money. You didn't do that. You lost you want Howard to. On aid and that's on. You know John Nash GM at the time. not done so those teams it was again combination of immature players and bad management decisions that team up. So you have having grown up here I've been here a long time now over forty years, but you grew up here your whole life. I'm going to assume that. Well I'll wes unseld of the higher stature than say Gibbs and Jergen sin and Riggins, because those guys one super bowls, or or You know. What is the order in your mind in Washington? Sports Pantheon well the only reason. I don't have west on Mount Rushmore in terms of DC sports. Is because you know. The the first big chunk of his career was in Baltimore. In Baltimore from his rookie season through nineteen, seventy, two seventy, three you know, and that's when he was MVP and was rookie of the year, and he was at his hike, physically and on those great teams with. And you know Gus Johnson and Jack Marin and all those teams that seem to got to the finals and seventy one so there's a big chunk of his career where he wasn't here. That's the only reason I don't have that. Rushmore so for that reason. I would say gibbs because gibbs did his work here in DC, and he did it did all of his work in DC. Including the you know three Super Bowl titles in ten years with three different quarterbacks, and all that we all know but certainly as a player you know, West is is. Again the most consequential player in history of that franchise you could certainly put him there with Ovechkin certainly has to be there I would make the case that Walter. Johnson has to be there because his numbers are cartoon usually dominant. Player I would put Josh Gibson there from the homestead grays, and no other people with might have other players. You might make a case for Darryl Green for example, and he can make a case for someone like that certainly but yeah, I mean West is there. He's right there in terms of the biggest. Players, and and as a person I would say Tony. Just you know certainly one of the great people that this that this city has ever had as a representative and as an athlete, and as a person in terms of his honesty and integrity, and all of those things that we say are important. Totally true, thank you, David Talk to you soon, my pleasure Tony Thank. You David Aldridge, boys and girls. You can read his work in the athletic. We'll take a break Torie. Clarke will be with US right nine Tori Clarke next. Yes. That's right Tori. Are you listening? Did I wake you. Know. Return I'm Tony Kornheiser. Listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the Grammar Lee ad whether you're communicating with your team online or working on a project grammar Lee as the digital writing tool, you can always rely on to get your message across clearly ineffectively. Gramley is the digital writing assistant that helps more than twenty million people put their best words forward signing up for Grammar Lee Account is free and gives you realtime spelling and grammar checks as you write, it works where you work, so you can communicate with clarity and confidence on every platform. Do you want deeper insights on your writing? Grammar Lee premium gives you advance feedback on tone, word, choice, punctuation and more. I say this. I do this Ad. It's an audit for me. Because I know how to write. I made a living as a writer. I was an English Major. My son who is an English Major. He knows how to write. We like to think that we don't need this, but it's always nice to have a backup. It's always nice to have something out there. That says sure you WANNA use that particular word in this particular context, Gramley premium helps you write like a pro with advanced real time feedback. You know it's interesting. Right like a pro. I was working at Newsday when I was not yet married to my wife, she was in college. At CW Post University and she's taking a journalism course that told her to take us. I said I'd ride all the papers. And I wrote all the papers and a guy from the long island press, totally inferior newspaper. Was the teacher of the course. And gave her see. I gave me a C. I wrote all the papers I was making a living doing this. No, plus so when it says sees hooked him so when it says you're right like a pro. That guy thought he was a pro loser. Level up your writing for Work School. In personal projects, premium features include advanced suggestions on grammar punctuation sentence structure in style. It's the perfect writing tool for anyone wants to stand out with every word. Get twenty percents off Gramley premium when you sign up at Grammar. Dot Com Slash Tony Twenty percent off. Grammar premium at Grandma's dot. com slash Tony G. R. A. M. M. A. R. L. Y. dot com, slash Tony. This is that Tony Kornheiser show? This is a song. Called, melancholy man, it's from a group called clothing optional. The clothing optional group came to our attention. Via Joe Bartlett of Seattle Washington. whose colleagues son, Dale. is a member of the band of clothing optional and is happy. To be on the PODCAST, although it doesn't sound like he knows. US Nigel it doesn't sound that way. Not overly familiar now right? It's a surf rock band from Everett Washington ever. I believe the Washington Post used to own the Everett Herald which was the newspaper in that town. It's gotTA. Disposition, favorite optionality and clothing, and the Enduring Sater's for all that is buoyant. It's a little bit over my head, but I do when I walk in the neighborhood I. Do see a A decal on a car that says surf naked so I guess clothing optional has something to do with that. They play in Torie Clarke and as we always ask Tori wear argue. In the beautiful Commonwealth of Virginia. Okay! And how? How's everything out there in your in in Rieger land as we like to call it? Rieger Land Yeah when you Rieger God bless. Quickly reached the place. That Patrick from the little in of Washington took a few years to reach which is about a third of the people in Rapahannock County Lover. About a third of them hater and and yeah. Yeah but yeah, so out there and our little quarantine family is doing well. It's Kinda be. It's become the new normal everything that's happened the last few days obviously is. Think holy crap. What's going on? But in terms of working and getting along and Bryan I joined the time with our kids. It's going pretty well, so you wouldn't. You wouldn't think that you'd WANNA pandemic to force you into this circumstance, but now that you're forced into it. It's good. For US good all right? Something's not so much, but for very good. So I wanted to talk to you about something that I have been doing it's this is so self-indulgent I think people will be happy about that. You pay until fortunate. No I'm not doing anything like that. Oh God! No, no, no, no, no, I'm not learning how to play the guitar either no I'm not. No I'm drinking. I'm drinking a lot because I don't go anywhere. Which is fine? Do you know the name of a chef Roberto donut that yes. Yes. So he is a big time chef. At one point. He was a James Beard Award winner in the Middle Atlantic region. This is an if you're involved in cooking. This is an enormous honour. Right I mean we all agree about that? So he had a bunch of restaurants. Some did well was called. Galileo did very very well for a while. Anyway, my friend Daryll, Clark came to me. a couple of weeks ago. And we were just talking about food, and he said by the way Would you be interested at all in in signing up for food from Roberto Donor? I said, what do you mean and he said he cooks listen to this tour. He cooks five meals a week. There are no substitutions. He cooks what he cooks. Each meal is a self contained meal. These are usually meals for four, and each comes with a soup with a soup, and the soup is for five or six I mean there's a lot of soup. I have been doing this for a couple of weeks. Now intend to do it for a little while longer at least and giving Michael Some of the soups and some of the dishes right? Yes, and you've enjoyed these things soups fantastic. Yeah, and so I'm going over there on once a week and I'm picking up this food. And I'm you know it's a delight for me and I find out that this is now how Roberto Dona. is making a living. And so. Daryll Clark said you know he needs to have people do this. He needs to have people. Sign up so what I'm saying on the air with Tori. Not and I'm not looking for. You couldn't do it obviously, because you're out in in Virginia. But if there are people who, seriously from this area from the Washington DC area story could do it in drive in for the. Wanted to get involved with this. If you wanted to get involved with this, you should email us I mean seriously and Nigel will look at your emails and I mean, but it's you know I feel like. I've I feel. So. Happy to do this. You know I mean you. You have to cook the meals. You have to warm them. You have to follow instruct. Follow Instructions which you get, put the food's great, and it's what what I'm getting at. Is it stuff and this is sort of what I'm getting to where you are now? It's stuff that I would not normally eat I don't like eggplants. I hate eggplant. I Hate Pumpkin. He made a pumpkin soup. That was great. He made an eggplant soup. Though you know what I'm saying, I'm doing things that I never would do under these conditions and I'm enjoying it. I think that's very true for a lot of people and we started in every conversation saying. Look this pandemic is not good obviously, and there are a lot of people. Suffering tremendously, however were doing things that we wouldn't have done otherwise what aspect of it so gives you the joy is it the food itself is that you're getting it from the famous chef? What is it that you enjoy about it? I enjoy all of it. I I think what I enjoy most is. It's really good. Okay. It's really good and again it's I never would have. Tasted this I look you know me pretty well. I had seen Wa and Kale last night I. would normally but I looked down on everybody. Who would eat that? What you would consider pretentious chef nosing no more rustic family style. Yes, and actually what I think so I think you really liked. Is You like the bounty of a new like handing it out? You like sharing it, so you make sure you check with Liz? What do you like on this menu? I think that's what's great and you look at you. Look at this model because he also has a restaurant. That's closer to me down by called. And and you just wonder. What are some of these neighborhood restaurants? GonNa look like in this model could be something that we see more of where you start. That is have these subscription lists you see this with with farms who are making deliveries to say, you can buy into this because there is. A substantial cost, but it's keeping you out of the store and it's and it's putting food on. This is sort of the same. You know as giant peapod. Some. It is food. You don't have to go, get it. It's not the same as giant peapod because this is really really great, and it's a little bit different, but. I'm mean you know what I mean Tory. It's really cool. To Michael's point, these restaurants are going to have to come up with new models, because if when they get to open up again there at twenty five percent or even fifty percents of their previous capacity restaurants operate I last time I read something. They operated on a three to four percent profit margin before this, so they're not gonNA survive just on the people coming into the restaurants, or they're going to have to create more opportunities like this, but the reason i. ask you what you enjoyed is about a week ago. Fan Daughter and I were driving back from the going out provisioning hunting and gathering food for the family. And near Spiritual Ville, there's a little place called Hopkins Ordinary, which is a BNB kind of place, and they had opened up their back area than Nice Garden area. There's five or six picnic tables. They have a little brewery there as well and you could go, and it was very carefully quarantine Santosh. You could sit at your table and have a beer and we drove by, and we saw a few people there. We got very excited at seeing other people, and we agreed that we were going to go in there and get a beer, not telling anybody else in the family that we stop. And we sat there under a tree and had a beer, and I just had so much fun just looking around and seeing other people, and they were fifteen feet away, and you kinda wave and lift your glass, and we got so much joy out of just seeing other people, because it's pretty much the seven or eight of us for now. I i. mean my sense is. What did I really like to do in my life? One of the things I really liked to do was go out to eat at a restaurant. That's going to be the last thing I do I'm sorry. I don't WanNa be I don't want to sit down and be served with someone by someone wearing a mask and gloves I'd rather I'm now. You know I'm not cooking this food myself. Caroline I are heating this food ourselves with with very specific instructions and I. Feel like I did about blue apron that I really sort of enjoy it I mean I have a part in it, and then I get to have it and I. Don't I don't want to go to a restaurant and a lot of people what I WANNA do is be able to go back to the Jim at Columbia and work with Helen. That's coming around either. I don't know that is. Don't you? Could Cause I know you're such a big Zumur you could restaurants are doing zoom dinner party, so you say five or six of your friends all decide Thursday night. We're going to have zoom dinner. Party and the restaurant sends Nick prepackaged pre-prepared food to each of the homes, and then you prepare it. Together via zoom does nothing could be more attractive than watching people show food interfaces. On Zoom. Zoom is creepy. I'm sorry it's creepy from me I don't i. don't like, but but what you're getting to is is. Restaurants are going to have to change. They're going to have to mutate into something different. They are a lot of things are. It's almost more. It's getting more into not more, but as much about entertainment and providing people with these opportunities, then being a restaurant as we've always thought of them as restaurant because they can't come back and think they've survived the way they did before the pandemic. Can I ask you a political question based on everything you did for your life's work for a while working in the Republican Party of course, are the locust coming next to our political world? Yes. It feels like we're fraying it it. It feels bad. Maybe that's just a function of my age. What happened to people who stood up on principle in the Republican Party? What happened to them John McCain was probably the last, and he's dead. Last time I checked run No, they've been gone for a long time. They've been gone for a long time there. You know fifteen twenty years ago. I sound like an old person and I say this, but I think a lot of people. Up there. Today would agree fifteen twenty years ago. You'd say okay. Who are the profiles in courage and people with five six seven eight nine ten names right? You cannot do that now. You can't do it now. You just can't. and especially with everything going on in the last week. After, George Floyd I. This is different. I realized. We've seen the movie before. David Aldridge and Mark Stern and I talked about the the night. We've seen this movie before talking specifically about police killing a black man, and we've seen the protests and seen the outrageous. Excuse me. We've seen that we have to change. And it's reached a level and adept a diversity I. Use that word specifically of outrage that we haven't seen before. And so sad as it is, there is a part of me. 'cause I'm always the eternal optimist. There's a part of me that says maybe this time will be different, and maybe this time people really will take action and the action to your original question. That I. Think can be most practical and most meaningful. Most helpful in the next few months is getting off. You're happy. You know what's in voting this fall. That can make a difference that can make a real difference. And, so I hope something positive comes of this, but I really really. I fear what might happen after the elections this fall if a certain person is reelected I think we're then I. think it's a serious world of hurt. Because not only will you not have profiles of courage wanting to seek public office? You're not gonNA anybody. Who wants to seek office? Other than people have nothing better to do, so I worry I'm a I'm hopeful, but I worry. That's fair to be hopeful and worry at the same time. That's where every day we do. PT Wilbon an IRA in that position. You hope things start back up. But you just worry about. What's really going to happen I? Thank you so much for being on. It's always a treat for me. Voices Michael Your phone call. Return my text. Love, you guys by Tori Clarke Boys and girls. We will come back with Tim Kirk Kurkin who will explain what's happening in baseball at mutates every single day as another new plan is leaked I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Do you guys know a thing about June gloom. Well, if you don't, you're gonNA feel this afternoon. When the heat and humidity finally did you see? Is this said simply because it rhymes, that's ridiculous. What could possibly be gloomy about Junie? Let's walkers birthday month. There's nothing gloomy about that. The Sun is out birds chirping. You'll probably get tan walk into your mailbox. Where if you're lucky, you'll find incredibly soft undies from me. Me UNDIES. How do we get there? Just wait and here's where they want me to motivate your audience with a bold statement. Why would the convenience of receiving undies in your mailbox be beneficial to personally I'll be honest to wear a one in one out situation so I'm looking forward to that package when it arrives and young Walkman now understands the the wonder of. Of a package, and anytime you see, something left on the front porch. He's happy he's happy. He Chee immediately thinks it's for him, and then he follows up every couple hours. Where's my package? Whereas my baggage so anyway back to discovering those undies in your mailbox while June's non gloom, sunshine is in your shoulders. At this point. The situation is hypothetical, but we're going. Going to tell you how to make it real. Gandhi says he's brilliant. Thing called an undies membership. The lead anyone in where every month the soft undies appear to your door. The convenience factor is clutch. You never have to leave the house and frankly not leaving my house much anyway, and you also get sitewide savings early access and free shipping early access for underpants. Peer Joy because when undies greet you in your mailbox June. Gloom is doomed. Just wait till July, these are made from micro madeline incredibly soft, sustainable fabric that encases. That does what it does. It's magically made from trees another reason to give them give them a hug me. UNDIES are offered in a range of sizes, extra small of four xl. Has a great offer for dad listeners Freddie first time purchasers you get fifteen percent off and free shipping. You gotta give the super softness at try. Especially because they've one hundred percent satisfaction guarantee to get your fifteen percent off your first order, free shipping, one hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed dot com slash Tony Kaye. That's dot com slash. Tony Kay wonderful. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This has us. By Sean Paul in Omaha Used to work with a band called Eric from outer space. And is now working with the band. A new band called the Sung's S.. U. N. K. KS, not the skunks, but the Sung's and that song is entitled Dear. Judy are we playing the song and I just don't hear it. There is okay. So always nice to hear the music. It's always nice didn't hear that no I was talking over it. I guess and was muted in my ear. Tonight is I've got that. We're tinnitus whatever but it comes and goes as we know. And I'm not worried about it. Just Watch your sodium. Yeah, so if if you want to send us your original music, how do you do it? Michael Music by emailing it to Jingles at Tony showed dot com, and a reminder at the end of the podcast, or you can just stop with us right now and go straight to the end, and you can hear the songs in their entirety Tim. Kirk joins US now. It's a pleasure for me to have tim and to ask him a I should I should say Tracy Roberts. And I, R- dear. Friends and Tim and Tracy Roberts. Our dear friends I'm trying to coordinate a dinner situation where we can use this great food from Roberto Dona, so we have to do that but that's my plug to bring tim over for dinner every single day. A new baseball plan is leaked to somebody and so when you talk about it the first day you rest assured that the second day there's a new plan. Today is a Wednesday. We talked about a plan yesterday. Is that plan still out there or is there already a new plan? Well Tony I don't often do this, but I need to talk about West on sell if I Have Not Diane David Honor We. Aldridge, is, do you yesterday? You guys were great? Okay, but that was my wheelhouse growing up, I went to a basketball camp. Came to the camp. He threw a ball off. The backboard caught it in midair, and before he hit the ground, he threw a two handed. Pass over his head. That hit the backboard on the other end of the court he's. out the greatest outlet passer ever one of the most underrated players ever and Kevin Locker who was a guard on that team was once asked when he stops running on the fast break. Knowing West can't get it to him. And he said when I reach the other end line. Because any other moment, the ball might appear like a howitzer. That's how great that outlet pass was and to be. Be as dominant as he was at six seven, and a half the greatest basketball player ever to play in Washington DC I just had to say that I'm sorry I rarely do these things. No, you know. There was a statistic that we were told yesterday and I don't know that. We got it into the show that he has more rebounds than anyone in basketball history under six eight. Yes, he was, and he played at a time. You pointed this out beautifully yesterday, guarding huge man, and because she was so unbelievably strong and had the biggest, but you've ever seen at knew how to use that big button. Those giant legs of that incredible strength I, just hope everyone understands who we lost this week. Because he was that great, so let me let's go back. How old were you at this camp? While I was. About twelve years old and I'm just gonNA. Guess that at this camp. You were not then six feet tall, right? Yes well at that time I was about four feet tall, but the point is as a teenager. That's was my wheelhouse for really watching basketball when the bullets were really good, and he was in the middle of it, and he came to the camp and showed everyone how to make an outlet pass a billion other things, and it was just breathtaking to watch, so you must have at that point in time, and we all have a memory like this. Wesley, on sell must have been the largest uman being you had ever been in contact with. Of course and again seven and a half, and whatever two hundred closer to three hundred was just so big, and so wide, and understood what leverage was all about which is so important to rebounding especially in the NBA, and he understood all of that he set the meanest hardest screens of all time. He was such a great defensive player to be able to guard Kareem Wilt Chamberlain and these guys who were five six inches taller than him, and he was able to do it because of his knowledge and understanding of what leverage meant in the lane. He's a great great great great player that thank you for that reminiscence can I get back to sorry the baseball. No, the baseball plan. Is it still are we still what seemed to me was we were at the stage of finding a number of games that the rest of it they it seemed like they could make a little progress on the rest of it or my wrong, yeah. No you're right and this one this latest idea from the owners. Hasn't been soundly rejected yet. which is a good sign, 'cause? It's only been a couple of days, but it hasn't been rejected yet. And this is what I think and I'm guessing Tony after people. I'm talking to that. We're going to play a sixty game season. Which I said a couple of weeks ago, when a when a source told me look the owners, WanNa play sixty games. That's the best they're going. Going to be able to get. They're going to get an extended postseason. That's where they make all their money and with only sixty games. They don't have to pay the players as much. This is how it's going to work. That was two weeks ago. I was told that and it looks like that's where we're headed at this point now. Of course, the Union has to agree with this and everything has to. Go along smoothly from here which never happens, but this has given me at least a little bit of hope that we might have season truncated and all it's interesting that that the owners went back to the deal they signed in March, which was a prorated salary for every game that is played which the Union really wanted, but on the other end. What they're saying is yeah, but we're not gonNA. Play that many games, so you're not going to get that much money. You'RE GONNA get half, but. But you're not going to get that. Much I figured it would be bargained up to about well I if you play. If you play in your League League still exists. You have fourteen other teams in your league. If you play them all five times, that's seventy games right that seventy right there, and if you'd say, give one more game to each team in your division that seventy four. I thought it would. It would fall out around seventy to seventy five, but you're. You're right there at sixty. Yeah and again Tony he could be seventy five. It could be fifty five. It could be sixty. It's just not going to be one hundred hundred fourteen. At this point I don't think it's going to be eighty two either, but I know the owners and Major League Baseball essentially saying look, we agree to something in March that we're GONNA pay you for every game that we play and it's going to be pro rated, and we're not gonna cut you anymore than that unless they're no fans in the stands now baseball is saying we are going to pay you for every game that you pull and there will be no second pay. Cut here, but we. We will control the number of games that we will play, and that's where the middle ground is going to have to be found so the other day when Gary Bettman announced that they were going straight to the playoffs and are twenty two teams in this that and the other thing Gary Bettman made a point I didn't even know Donald. Fear was still alive and doing this, but he made a point of thanking the NHL Players Association and the NHL Players and it seemed to me actually sincere. I don't see that in in baseball it. Doesn't you know what I mean? There seems to be actual hardcore animosity there. And there there has been forever. Tony I mean I've told you covered the eighty one strike Marvin. Miller screamed at me a couple times during that because I didn't know what I was doing. Greedy, screen screen of wants the the ranked court was unbelievably high back then, and it wasn't a whole lot better ninety four when we lost the world series. It's better today. Believe me, but it's still not good, and it's never going to be good. Under the current situation, and that's part of the problem is these two sides need to be incomplete collaboration to save the season? They need to be best friends to save this and they're not. They're not even close, but it's not as bad as it was in nineteen eighty one, so you know everybody talks to everybody. I talked to. You talked to Richard Justice. Somebody else talked to Bob. Nightingale. Somebody talks to Jeff Passan something talks Kenny Rosenthal and everybody says the same thing that you know it's not a good working situation, and has got to be a lot of compromise and I go well. Are you optimistic or pessimistic, and they always say we're optimistic. You you right, you're optimistic. Youth think there's going to be a season. I do Tony with. Great. And again this is all dependent after they get the finances straight. If they get the finance straight that the country and local municipalities and the federal government and everyone else is going to allow this to happen if there's any sort of outbreak again, and there's not going to be a season, but I am mildly optimistic now that we're going to play because rob. Manfred was there when there was the world series was cancelled in Nineteen ninety-four. He's one of the few guys totally involved in this who understands the damage and the danger of having a work stoppage, and a season wiped out. Most of our players have no. No connection to this? They haven't been a part. Thank goodness of a work stoppage. They don't know what a strike is about. They have nothing to lean on when it comes to that. Whereas in ninety four, a Lotta guys remembered eighty one how bad that was, and in two thousand into they remember nine, hundred, ninety four. How bad that was I think rob Manfred saying we're not GonNa let this happen. The country needs us. We're GONNA find a way to do this and I'm mildly optimistic that we are going to find a way. I'll get you out of here on this, and let's just say it's sixty. And let's just say as we probably believe in our hearts, not just a second wave of the virus, but what is going on now in terms of protests, people will get it. Carry it back to where they're from. And I think we're GonNa see you'd spikes. In the next two to three weeks from the opening up of of businesses, and from the gathering together of so many people. Let's say they try to start. What if they have to shut it down? One of the players say you know what it's too risky, and because it would be it. We really risky. I think if they shut it down. Let's say we're just guessing Tony. Let's say they start August first. And then there breakouts, outbreaks, and on August the eighteenth they say are. We gotta shut down for two more weeks. Then you shut down the season. And you just say sorry. This didn't work. Adam. Wainwright is really smart Guy Pitcher for the cardinals said if we have to shut it down, we need to shut down the season. That's why it's absolutely critical that we know where we are where we get started, so we don't have to shut it down because baseball is not a sport that you can just shut down and start back up two weeks later. It doesn't work that way so you, so you mentioned August. Is that what you're thinking as a start date August? Yeah. I think they're gonNA. Start out again, Tony I'm guessing if you're going to six games, you start on August. I play thirty games in August. Thirty and September extended play offs in October and done October thirty first. That's what I think is going to happen because they don't WanNa play past October, because they're fearful that the spike is going to return in November and December and they don't want to be playing when it gets potentially extra dangerous. Thank you, Tim, thank you, thank you. Thank you and we're going to have dinner we're going to have. Okay. Tony Thank you. Tim Coaching Boys and girls. We'll take a break. When we come back. We'll have email and a new jingle. That looks great to me. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. You and he was a cab. Tenders Literacy at five got this street each. Echo nor chase to Westmont remember. Back in ninety, two nine three. Seven gene to three seventy. Left. Doyle's and you try to. God knows why I'm still listen. I'll lead Winnie you. Look involve nominee sports show but this. Can't and So. And You. Just little. Share data. This is brilliant at Steve Lift in Springfield Virginia. WHO said I've been wondering for twenty five years, which dirt road would get me from one seventy one to camp, huma information for lives is talking about me and find Sandra me, and everybody else in. It's the Bruce Springsteen song human touch. It's absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant so thrilled about that. That will do it for us today before we get to the mail bag that somebody say name the rascals. Okay I'll name the rascals. Eddie Gotti Felix. Cavalieri Dinelli Gene Cornish. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank store guests today. The athletics David Aldridge ESPN's Tim Kirk Torie Clarke thanks as well to our sponsors. Grammar, Leonides and remember you can listen to us on Apple PODCASTS spotify. Google play radio DOT COM. If you get the show, I tunes, please leave us a review. What I like most about the song was the reference to the hundred year old egg or twenty year old. Old Egg 'cause they would take these eggs hard, boiled eggs and stick them in in from Malda Hide, and they turned red on the outside, and you would pick them out and eat them and I've done that a few times in my life and it's frightening. Here's a great email from dusk. Janssen, the senior winery ambassador Matama embassador at Willamette valley vineyards. It was a wonderful surprise hearing from you if you received the care package I sent I. Hope You. An said it arrived. T one May twenty-first. which is her birthday? I hope you've been enjoying the selection I put together. You know how to reach me when you need replenishment. If any of your fellow listeners are interested in experiencing, will lammert valley vineyards wines. I will honor a twenty percent discount for them using the Promo Code Hashtag W V v Willamette valley will lamb valley vineyards madame when ordering online or call me the winery directly. I'd be happy to make a personalized recommendation. Isn't that great? Great from Madam Ambassador Dusk Jensen. That's for everybody. That's a free gift was not free, but it's a great discount caller up. Caller up just talk. From Jeff Jeffrey toll brief note to just say thanks for providing a familiar and welcome presence in my life for many years I'm a fellow survivor of seven decades and Long Island native from East islip on the south. Shore where I grew up delivering the daily paper to the palatial hideaways, various mafia bigwigs when I find this memories is going with my family to the competitions were various town fire departments perform feats of daring due to the of onlookers to this day, I still here in my mind. The announcer crying on the line Lyndon Hurst than watching the team. Try to beat their fellow firemen's Times. Hearing you're. You're familiar accent and phrases brings me great comfort during my seemingly endless incarceration. I don't have an addict like you so I'll probably end up dying in my man cade. Thank God for comfortable oversized recliners from Greg. Matusik Dr Ron Thank. You I cannot say it any simpler. Thank you for continuing the show from your uncle's table. During these tough times, the podcasts puts a smile on my face. From Lisa Cone Damani in Bethesda I've been a loyal listener for years since back in the ninety S. when you're on local radio, my dad never had son, so my sister and I were raised as you. Sports fans with season tickets. All the local teams I tended the bullets championship in the seventies celebrate the Redskins in high school, and then attended northwestern university where I was a cheerleader and witness the infamous Owen. Eleven season of one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty nine. I lived in France and Switzerland for years. Years before the podcast and I was thrilled when I moved back to rediscover you, as you can imagine I especially enjoy northwestern coverage now that they're sports have caught up with their academics. I have an engineering degree from northwestern I worked in consulting for many years after staying home with my four kids for ten years I launch a successful travel business until the arrival of Covid I'm writing you today because after spending three months being strand, bringing strands, stranded travelers, home and canceling a full year's worth of vacation. I got my first new request for travel. Knowing that domestic drive distance travel will come back I, I've been spending a lotta time learning about where you can get to easily from the Washington DC Area I was surprised when one of my clients from California reached out for a chip to where else but the Willamette valley before last week I would have been calling it Willamette, and that will admit dammit, and I would've had no knowledge of the stunning Pinot noirs. They produce thanks to this show. I sold it like a rock star a good. Is that Kenny land in Jackson Tennessee? I heard you talking about Dave Spectra Dave. Specter's from bells up winery send. Send you some wine? See the same guy with a wild hair who is known for the wall of wine back in the sixties. That's funny. That's a Phil Spector reference. That's funny Robert Sullivan and falls, Church Virginia. There's an easy way to tell whether you have would be carpenter bees if you find empty miniature beer cans and pizza boxes strewn around the area. Then you have carpenter bees. However, if that were the case, there's no doubt you have included that in your complaints. Since you did not, we must assume you actually have. Would bees from Tim Logan in Saint Petersburg I. Don't usually listen to songs at the end of the podcast. However I was. was doing yard work and they played to my work. Jessica. Mitchell is really good better than the word you used yesterday when this was a few days ago I purchased are songs on Itunes and I'm not a country fan. Thank you for introducing something new from Xavier. Lacarriere I'm confident. You've seldom received an email from a French person. Living in Paris I'm a longtime fan of and of your podcast as a teacher of English as a second language in college, listening to a doctor of letters talking about sports. It's a precious source of knowledge for me. I have often had to double check words from what's the word over the years my all time favorite being. Being avuncular SORTA like your uncle. My love for American culture began when my parents booted me on a plane in nineteen, eighty, nine to fly to Maine to go to summer camp, though I couldn't speak a word of English since then I spent eleven glorious summers, both as a camper and council for three decades and watched every Super Bowl NBA finals in world series quite an achievement when you think of the time difference, you and I also share a weakness for wind, retreating into good battle here in Paris seems very unlikely. Given your legendary fewer flying. Let me know if you ever find the strength or the right amount of pills to make it across. The Atlantic. Please give my best to Michael. Wilbon. WHO affectionately call the Chicago, King of name, dropping and Nikko Wafers are back. Right Nigel that's right. We seven fire of Ponte. Vedra, beach in Florida says that the nickel wafers are back and she. She enclosed US pictures of that. Do I have time to just do one more of course do we have the music playing? Because I can no longer hear it because I'm talking about these, it gets stopped. We've got this. Is Richard Lease her lesson? I write to ask your help. In the Department of helping little's cater works one word cater with a K. and works with an e belongs to Melissa and Ray Monday of Augusta Georgia. You may have seen Melissa featured on ESPN DOT COM and a recent piece by Tonja Malinowski about sports, dependent businesses negatively affected by the pandemic there. She shares that cancellation of Masters Week means the loss of twenty five percent of our annual business. If any liberals in the Augusta area are needing are in need of a catering service in the. The future. Please check out Keta works Melissa's the older sister of my best friend. She used to Babysit for me and my siblings almost forty years ago in Frankfurt Germany. We're all military brats. She's a great person I know that she enraged. Do a tremendous job. The email address for Kedah works is Keta works and Ktar. WER KS com, a wishing you and the crew. Good Health, so that's I mean that's nice that that sort of closes the box on this because I started with Tori about Roberto Dona. What you find and I'm sure this is true for everybody. The more you stay home, not that you don't like your family because she ended up liking your family, love your family. It's more important if you like your family, but what becomes important if you're not going out a lot food in your own home. Food in your own home becomes very important. I've I've done a lot of grilling I'm good at that but I'm no chef and so to get other food and just enjoy. It is really good I know that sounds sort of one percenter, and I apologize for that, but I'm sitting in this house. A lot and I do have to eat, and rather than just have a ham and cheese sandwich. Something a little bit nicer than that has been great so i. hope all of you. That's my wish today that all of you find good food over the weekend. Right if you're out on your bike tonight, everybody as always do wear white, but we don't have the puts for to do it. Non. Odd. saw. This small kiss. Needs. Kim. So. Don. The. Off. Is. And soon again.

Washington Tony Kornheiser Tony David Aldridge West Tori Clarke baseball Wes unseld West Diane David Juwan Howard basketball Kareem Wilt Chamberlain GM Washington Post NBA Chris Webber tim Baltimore Joe Gibbs
"Isaias and the 20015"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:04:54 hr | 4 months ago

"Isaias and the 20015"

"Previously. On the Tony Kornheiser shine. What do you think? Nigel I think. It's brilliant I wish I had friends that had horses I could wash him in the race I didn't know he had a horse I found out on Saturday. And he's got facet as. Well. Back towards his best friend. BAFFERT. Trafford Saddles Kentucky Derby winners. So in a fleet for five and a half. Furlong claiming allowance. Baffert in like that's like you go to a pick up game and your coaches. Popovich. What. Are you doing here. This is General George Washington and you're listening to the Tony. Kornheiser show all righty. Then bunch of things to talk about I just wanted to say that the late last night not late last night around. Seven o'clock seven thirty something like that I just come back. And I were walking the dog and we come back. To our house and finish is outside from pineapple landscaping fins got a small little. What one of those machines called that disperse feed and grain as you walk, a spreader spreads not a wheelbarrow. And he's saying you know this is going to help the grass and you got a water at night. We we don't water it. We don't water it. So but I'm your man, it was nice to see Finn. And I said Fin I, owe you a lot of money I. Don't you never give me a bill on he says, well, I like to give bills out electronically on email and I go i. don't like that. So just give me a paper bill. I'll pay within twenty four hours and this seems to be the impasse that we have no life. This is the compromise. Yeah this. Is Life is strange from shared a Haiku forecast path for SIS is simpler than pronouncing it. I'd never heard that name I'm going to assume it's a Latin name of some sort. I. Had never heard it. It's not a lot of high names I understand that and it's hard to get I names although I read every other year would be very good name Iras, McCall's name. It would be a good name sis I'd never heard we'll talk about that in a second, but from Chris Martin in East Lansing Michigan this is fun. I. Wanted to share a David Aldridge moment I had listening to Friday show during your interview with Richard Justice Ritchie told a joke aimed at aging sports writers from a certain era. He attributed the joke to bud short chose my age of the Cleveland Plain dealer before Richard. Could. Finish the job. However, my wheels were spinning I know that guy you see he shares the last name Shaw with my neighbor who has revealed to me in three minute conversations over the years that has spent decades in Cleveland as a sports writer. I thought Bud Sean must be the same guy excitedly I text my neighbor to confirm his reply was Yep that's my dad. WHO's Tony Kornheiser. GotTa like that. Got Me. Happy. So. Let me get to let me get to. The entire thing with the tropical storm sis yesterday and where I live in Washington DC. As my son said last night the day over performed. It was sunny here by two o'clock. It was a beautiful. Lack of humidity afternoon evening it was really nice. We got a lot of rain probably three inches of rain. But. We didn't get anywhere near the wind that other people got and that you see now on television Michael you were watching the today show the garden state parks raise down. Yeah. Was closed to do the Jersey sweep yes. So I am watching as you know being a channel four guy I'm watching channel four early news and they go straight through the today show they kick the today show off the air at seven o'clock they stay with local weather, which by the way is the right call you are serving your constituency. You should care about who's watching you and who lives near you and Chuck. Bell is really lathered up because nobody loves bad weather like a weather man that's that's their pride and joy they love snow they love rain they love crippling. Can't get snow. You got the flooding, right? They love everything that is dislocating and annoying for everybody else they love and Chuck Bell keeps pointing to the weather map and it is filled filled with reds and yellows. There's no green reds and yellows and Chuck Bell Very excitedly, and this is six in the morning five forty in the morning six in the morning six, forty in the morning seven in the morning seven, forty in the morning Chuck Bell is is screaming whatever you see now this just the beginning, it's just the beginning of it. This is GONNA be. Biblically and say that, but that's that's his body language and that's his emotive quality. This is going to be the worst thing of all time and you see the reds and you see the yellows in southern Maryland where people like me who live in DC often see the reds and yellows. But what Chuck Bell is saying is this is going to the northwest. It is an odd pattern it is not leaving it's not going to the northeast it's going to the North West and Metro DC is going to be pounded. I live in Metro DC and he's talking about. How Terrible? It's GONNA be Channel Four's deployed all over the place Darren Ward it gets down in Alexandria Derek Ward is a God Jack Words out there in the rain and Derek Ward. He's always good I really like him Lauren Ricketts wearing a giant face mask and hood is on the streets of Alexandria where she saying how terrible it is, and yet when they pull away to a wide shot, he doesn't look that bad. So like Raven had to concede that the water was receding one. It just simply looks like rain I saw but chuck bell is telling us how terrible this is going to be. where I live I can't tell you how lucky we were. We didn't get I mean it's forecast fifty mile an hour wind gusts sustained thirty right so you saw this and fifty mile an hour wind goes Yup Yup. We can get anything like that. We were so fortunate I've had those wind gusts. They've taken trees right out of the ground and throwing them down for an already saturated area. Yeah. We got maybe fifteen to twenty hour gos- and it was steady rain all morning rain tropical feel to it never really got worse than no so so it was so fortunate. That the storm underperformed here now out in Delaware, plenty of Tornado warnings and plenty of tornadoes in South Jersey, they had plenty of Tornado warnings and plenty of tornadoes. Mike sidell was out I thought in ocean city. He's with the weather channel. Here's getting blown around mean it was really the wind out there was significant. At one point, the bay bridge was under a high wind alert, which means I don't think anybody goes on a high wind alert. I don't think I don't think you can go but here where we were yeah, we got a bunch of rain. Not Torrential rain and not you know. Drive. By the late afternoon. Yeah. So I go out in the morning because I'm reading fifty mile an hour wind gusts. So I go out and I take all the pots of plants down from the top of the deck take him down put him on the ground about twenty minutes later it's over yeah we were taken down. Porch furniture it's. So and it's not like it's not like it wasn't devastating because you can see the footage it was indeed devastating it seemed to be devastating. Barely east of Washington DC and straight north after that. Devastating in New York City trees out in Queens trees out in. Brooklyn stuff falling all over the place I ninety five. Probably Philadelphia probably got crushed but but in Washington DC itself. It was a little bit east like Annapolis. I I, don't know if Annapolis got crushed. That I. Just handled that we we were lucky. My Tomatoes I. Thought I thought my tomato plant was in tremendous jeopardy. Was it was fine. It was fine. Sean, what was it like where you are? We had a lot of rain and pretty strong winds and you know in the next neighborhood over there were a lot of downed trees but you know it it wasn't. It wasn't terrible. It was bad but Around I have friends on Long Island with power out and a little for those hundreds of thousands maybe millions of people don't have power Isaacs instead he lost power I was wondering why I mean understand why is ex in laws power but he apparently lost power but but in the immediate area where I live it, it was not terrible I'm very grateful for that because if it's terrible, you know it stays in weeks, stays and weeks to repair it and all of that. So very, very fortunate on that and it's supposed to be A hot. Atlantic. Ocean Feeding Hurricane Frenzy this year right now what we're hearing well, you'd think so just based on the the heat and the humidity that we've already had everything feels like it's boiling up but that's at a time when you WANNA keep people separate and you already have enough these grains that are cruel virus. We were very lucky in this area not to have to see as many sort of emergency. So I just wonder how you'd think Chuck Bell feels today. I mean, how feels because because it was terrible in southern Maryland, it was terrible in southern Maryland but the track appeared to be pushing it northwest and involving Metro Washington it was never it was never going to touch Winchester Virginia. You know culpepper was not apparently destroyed or anything in the western suburbs but it was you know I mean you you look at. You look at those big blobs of color and then Neil Peart me thinks I don't know. Is this some kid just painting on his own TV and they're taking pictures of it? I really know. I don't know but it didn't I'm I'm I'm grateful I'm surely grateful that it wasn't as bad. You know but I always like it when weathermen rummy wasn't wrong I mean he could say but it's address to how large the viewing area is for for your local news and you're trying to make sure you serve all those counties. Yeah. All right. Being a snow event as KIPP would call it well, erm, have been underperforming. Y-. Well, in the in the area where I live, it would have been underperforming in southern Maryland would have been you know a foot and a half of snow. That's right. So No, they don't. They don't fool around on the bay bridge if they go. Hi, win shut down its. Box trucks. It's. All right. We'll take a break when we come back I was your entire open. What do you want to talk about I? Don't know I wanted thought maybe you'd watch baseball May to watch the NATS. I watched the nats who were sort of rain delayed on on a weird. Arraigned cell storm we got it here. You didn't get knife four or five miles away. Yeah. We got us with the stadium. And the that's win. The nats win and how he goes wild. He goes four for four and it's one out as when actually have to pitch to them. Yeah. Well, if you got other people in the live, they got some name. Harrison. I know it's not once. Getting closer to the DUGOUT. He's now dancing dancing on top of the dugout I would like to see him play. You think you'll play today. I. Think. So all right. So anyway, yeah, I watched a little bit of the nets. I didn't watch any basketball last night any hockey know what happened I had no clue. Okay. morrow. You know it's all sort of pounding at us at once and and now I don't even know. Is. Going to be with us next or is it going to be Chris Cillizza? St San San Steve Sands when we return? I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony. Kornheiser show. This is the Lincoln Financial Ads Somehow Lincoln financial decided to stay with us even though I made fun of their copy. Copies ridiculous. Haven't had a chance to review it, which is in yellow begin by riffing about how you and your family have been talking a lot more this year. Hey, everyone. This new world we're living in has me and my family talking a lot more I mean just right the copy if you're gonna say begin by doing this and then the copy says, Hey, everyone this new world we're living in has me and my family talking a lot more. Let me be truthful. Me and my family talking a lot more I'll say anything when I'm not on the Air I'm like a hermit crab I sit around and drink. That's all I. Do when I'm not on the air straight to voicemail continue riffing about the wide variety of conversations you've been having from the exciting and weird to even the boring feel free to make it as personal as you like, and then they right I mean we're talking about everything from how much. Greater. Was the greatest of all time than today's greatest how to make sour dough bread to win football might start up again and trust me that last one's important and is to me I can't keep watching my dog runs circles in the backyard and call that a spectator sport although when she has five frisbees in her mouth I do so I get my complaint is you're telling me to continue. You're telling me to riff if I understand what riffing. Is I just do something on my own and talk about it, and then you give me copy which says what the riff is I don't I don't get that. Then it says please finish by reading the following and that's smart because the copies actually well written it's the instructions in the copy that are pointless. Let's be fair. The instructions have now lead you onto this beautiful riff. I. Guess about how terrible the copywriting although the copy writing is good. But that's where it's beautiful structures. But despite how talkative we all are the People Lincoln financial want to point out the one conversation that most people still haven't had you financial plans. So fine time to talk to your loved ones about it because the more we talk the better we plan, protect and retire. That's why Lincoln financial is here to help you get the right questions to start your conversation at Lincoln Financial Dot Com. That's good writing that is. This is that Tony Kornheiser show. This is a longtime friend of the show Nick Bolen. Writes I just wanted to send you a new song I made called not on your own now available wherever you get your music digitally. Thanks for listening. Hope you enjoy. Nick Bowen send us a bunch of stuff over the years hasn't he? Absolutely, years only two or three years but. So. Yeah. He plays in Steve Sands of the golf channel and NBC you drove through the hurricane. Yeah kind of had to timing wise I had to be back in Florida to be in the studio by Tuesday. So Monday was the data drive and. It was a little wendy a little a lot of rain but only for like an hour to ninety five as you go down as you know Tony goes far away from the coast until you get down to near Charleston and so we kind of timed it right and only had about an hour hour and a half of really heavy rain and wind, and then once we got past it, it was you know sunny skies and it was fun. So I just opened the show and talked about how fortunate we were, where I live to have escaped the brunt of this that landed on southern Maryland and and east of there. But we got we got some rain. We get hardly any wind you drove in wind can you feel it? Oh Yeah you feel when you're when the wind is home in like that, you could definitely feel it. In fact, I talked to my dad yesterday and he said that it was basically nothing you know back in. DC. Just, a little bit but we. When I was driving, you know when the wind is blowing that hard and it's swirling, you know not just come from one side and swirling like that I definitely dropped it down two miles per hour that I'm not familiar with driving down ninety five very slowly there for about not getting it wasn't a big deal at all. It was about ninety minutes. Let me stay with weather for a second because we do want to talk about the PGA which starts tomorrow at Harding Park in San Francisco and the preliminary onsite standups make it look like you know done sinning in in Macbeth it's just it looks cold and Raw, and is that what we're expecting Have you been to already talk. I have not I've been I've been to San Francisco Golf Club and I've gone by Olympic not harding park now. Yes. So I don't know if Michael has either but we're harding park is France and the south west side of the city. So it's right right by the beach right on Lake Mur- said. And mannequins cold and foggy there and They have that overcast marine layer. Now, they can beautiful as well, but it's got that typical cool. Cloudy Foggy damp conditions that you've come accustomed to whenever you see sporting events in San Francisco and it's going to be chilly I mean highs in the. You know sixty, five, sixty, seven, and it's all who'll sixty five and sixty seven. And I know you're gonNA. Ask me about tiger. Sure. Of course wouldn't he preferred it to be ninety to Cuba to that backup right to be cold and cool and damp I think that's one of the reasons he didn't play practice ride yesterday just hit balls the ranch. Yeah I mean I I. I don't like his chances and you don't like his chances and nobody really likes his chances you know in the under those conditions, right? Right it it's a tough spot for him at this stage of his career with the way, his back has been. To expect him to be able to perform four consecutive days, remember when we solvable boreal. we talked about this last week. Remember when we saw that the memorial was the second day where he wasn't very comfortable. And it was warm and humid there when it's cool and damp and foggy like it will be all this week to expect him to be able to hold up over seventy. Two holes in a row is was is a tough is a very spot for him. He can burn them woods walks on. Thank you do. Yeah. It's like you can't win it doesn't can't he? He could be tactician out there and perform like he did at the presidents, Cup in two thousand nine TV CRTV park and play very well but I think two, thousand, nine tiger was in twenty twenty tiger woods are completely different players for everything just go back to the two thousand five or he's in the playoff against daily and just see how far he's ripping the ball and that's the shell of what he is so. The. PGA. itself is the least of the majors right I mean if you if you one one and it's the PGA, is that sorta downgraded? Love it. It's such a great question I. I don't think of it. That way what you think of the PGA is I mean it's a fair question and it and it, and it probably is just if you said, hey, which major do you want to win the most most people would say the masters and then most people after that would say the open or the US Open and the PGA nobody would say that. Nobody? Would say the PJ I right however nobody messes with Justin, Thomas? Right? He's got one major. It was a it was a PGA nobody's talking about him like they're talking about ricky. So he has won a major yet Davis love the third one, one major. It was a PGA Championship Ryan guys who win majors separate themselves from other players in this sport and like I've said to you before there are plenty of players who are not great who have won majors. You cannot be considered great engulf unless you've won one major and. In the case of the PGA Championship, it's one of the four and I promise you nobody would rather trade this week with any other week golf If it was the only time, they ever want to turn on. No I completely agree with that. I mean there have been people have won the masters or the open. There's there the orval Moody's. There the Michael Campbell's I mean there's not great players and they've won a variety of things. I just got the sense that the PGA if you had a bunch yet if the PGA wouldn't be at the top of the list it is but like you know it's so funny when you when you wouldn't that topic comes up it is it is true Lis- The masters the US Open and the open seemingly are more important than the PGA Championship. However, when you add all up, tiger has fifteen majors, I promise you those four wanamaker trophies are sitting justice proudly owner's Mantel. Alley other eleven major championship trophies. Thank you by the way for mentioning Justin Thomas. Because I have I I'm so curious about what I'm going to ask you now. What an interesting and potentially. Odd sort of novel. Pairing Justin Thomas and Phil. Mickelson, on Sunday. We're Justin Thomas his caddy is Jim MCI bones who fills basically his whole professional career and I don't know why they split up how that worked if it was amicable or if it was nasty but whatever. But here's bones picking up Justin Thomas as bad because Justin Thomas caddy is is ill at the moment and helping him I think helping him to win and fill is right there. You know all these people what was that? What was that light? Well. In a word, I would probably say uncomfortable. It was fascinating I think that everybody was happy for the moment. Nobody's happy about covert by any means. But happy for the moment that. Hats off handshakes fists palms. allowed. Any more sports currently because of the corona virus so I think that I think everybody in that group was happy that they didn't have to deal with that type of dynamic on the I T and also on the Eighteenth Green the fact that Justin played so well at one. with bones on the bag next to Mickelson who by the way shot a three-under-par round on Sunday. Played well but he's fifty years of age. Tony you're you're not GONNA be able to compete against those young guys over the course of seventy two holes. For the most part but Phil, tied for second. Shot a three hundred around that day. and played well But to see Justin wind and let's not mistake this for a bones with it was Justin Thomas Win right but with bones there helping him. that certainly made for a an interesting dynamic between that group. No question about it are they not pals anymore bones and Phil was it a bad break up I don't think pals would be okay. The correct way to describe relationship. Okay, I just found it interesting. I mean out that yeah, I I don't mean to big not. It was It was time to end the relationship. It was run its course and they had a great run on. twenty five years. Now, Mickelson's one of the twelve thirteen great players in the history of the sport and the entire time for the most part he had bones on his back. bodes became very famous because of Nicholson has the nickname. He's not Jim McKay's bones and he's very talkative when he's gone when he's out there working, he is by far and away known as one of the two or three best caddies of his generation and you happen to be alongside one of the most famous players of all time Mickelson. So he became famous in his own right but. It was It was time to end that relationship, and if by the way, if he got ten percent which was the standard fee years back, he made one hundred, eighty, thousand dollars for a weekend, which is bad. May with Justin. Thomas Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would say Mambo up get fresh I love. he works with us on NBC Golf. and I've known them for years and years and years I would say he he had of anybody. I know I believe he's hit the COVID LOTTERY in the last with Matthew Fitzpatrick with a runner up finish at the memorial and Justin Thomas with a win. He's made a lot of money on his side Gig before he comes back to television in a couple of weeks and by the way just. Very easily with this week at hardy. Park. So it could be an extremely lucrative couple of weeks for bums. I'm have let us get to yeah. Let's get to Brooks Koepka because he has won two in a row on Justin. Thomas. One three years ago. Then Brooks kept one two years ago and last year in this particular tournament, the PGA. showed well, I mean had that one. On the par-five both guys had the same chip shot one group after another. Justin Thomas. Got His ball to stop four feet three or four feet and kept his chip kept rolling in roll off the green and that was the tournament but he showed very well in Memphis. You think he needed that and do you see him as a as someone who could win again? Without question when we spoke last week told you that he kind of sneaked a peek over to Pete Cowan who is known off circles as the course whisperer he's just a fabulous teacher He's still works at Claude harmon Claude. Harmon is very, very good teacher I. Think Brooks just wanted an extra set of eyes. As to why he'd been struggling before last week and he has a Knack Tony I, I'm trying to compare him to other athletes in team sports Orrin Golf but. He has a knack of just showing up in the big events and he just bulldozes his way through these big events two time defending champion Walter Hagen. Won This you know thousand years ago three times in a row. it. It would be an amazing run and there's no question about it. He is absolutely my shortlist to be there Sunday afternoon because. His confidence level Tony so high and as we talked about last week, if he turned it around last week in Memphis where he was the defending champion by the way I thought that would bode well for him this week and that's exactly what he did. Did that sixteenth whole bite him yes. He did not perform well with that ship that you talked about on that par-five but Brooks Koepka is absolutely ready to go and ready to roll this week for non for non golf insiders. Kepco always talks about how these are the easiest. Tournaments for him to win because field essentially shrinks down because. So many players are out of it before it even starts and that just speaks to the confidence. So if you look at how DP win the first round last week, that's what you needed to see for for himself. Just know that that needs not injured and on a more technical standpoint, he's also addressed one of the shortcomings in his game he he bullies the ball into the hole, but he technically had an unsound putting stroke and he's beginning to center to the ball and he's A. PL- putter flat. So he has a better chance, and if you actually look at some of the dog legs, it could remind you of Belle Reeve now obviously, very different conditions. But if you see how might be able to take it around some of these dog-legs, that's where you someone who can play. So aggressively with such speed getting a little leg up, even if he doesn't have to go the Bryson route of trying to carry it over some of these trees where you may never find your golf ball again. Yeah. Agree. Those fabulous my kids fabulous fantastic the way by the way Nicholas agreed with Kepco the majors are the most difficult tournaments to win because of the biggest, which makes it the easier ones to win. You're one of the great players because so many other guys are either afraid. To go out there and win or they just don't have the confidence to get it done under that type of microscope and Nicholas said he agreed with Kepco when he said that a couple of years ago which I thought was fascinating just Nicholas is the greatest of the wall. So this is the obvious follow up question then is brooks kept go great player or a grade majors player. And is there a difference in your mind at such a fascinating debate in Golf Tony and I think he's a great player He has other wins They are not piling up like Justin Thomas get into thirteen with at such a young age. But let's not mistake Kepco for just playing in the major championships. He has other victories like I said, he was defending champion last week at Memphis which the World Golf Championship events. He's one other places like in Scottsdale where you could make a strong case that Scottsdale is one of the more difficult tournaments on the PGA tour to win based on the conditions there the fans and the craziness. does he step up in majors more than he does in regular PGA tour events? Absolutely but I think when it's all said and done. he's GonNa have a pile of wins if he stays healthy. I will get shot here on these questions. What's the caps and can you believe Alex? Smith can actually be a quarterback again. The the Alex Smith is just incredible. It is. That documentary yes I mean it's incredible. Possibly even fathom being an NFL player anymore however I do think that you know when they start taking this football physicals is a lot different than doing drills. He's not going to pay I don't think. So either I agree but I think it's fantastic. Shred met Alex a couple of times. Nice Guy I couldn't be happy for. The cops. That's good. Gets her. All right. You know what all plays out. Don't you find these seating game stupid and a waste of time and nobody cares. You mean on the capstone. Round Robin on the other end is okay the cap sent they had to do that because if they would have had those top four teams, Ya'll doing nothing. Yeah, they would have been such a disadvantage to the other. Teams who were playing for the Round Robin to get into the playoffs. but I don't know I mean I think hockey NBA Mlb. I think that hockey looks and sounds the best with the tarps on and the kooks Great Looks Lake the the NBA looks great I. Just don't love that these NBA AH give it to the playoffs. I can't dig the NBA until the Playoffs Start Right and M O. B I watched the nets every night and You know watching last night those you know forty thousand empty seats I wish they would have done something different at the plastic people in whatever the paper people at Dodger Stadium that stupid looking. But I like the tarps that the NHL did makes it look a little cozier I think. But. I don't know by the way Strasbourg alive house s strategy to it. We don't know I, guess is nerve. His nerve comment is still impinging when they do the nets games and and they do the charge things and they have right scoreboard up and I sit in my house and I go. What are they doing? Why do? There's nobody there. What are you doing? Just play the game weird. I. Am that's why I think the NHL and and and the NBA did it a little bit better than the way basically based on the neckar completely different logistics but I think they i. think it looks okay. It's weird seem sports with no fan we talked about this months ago Tony on the air off the air. CBSSPORTS would know fans we have fans at sports. The energy? No No. No. Not Right now but I'm saying as a sports fan when you're watching sports, that's a massive void. You know golf wait till this weekend a major championship. Fans on. Zahed. Very odd be really on might enjoy yourself. Thank you, Steve. Thanks take. Care Steve Sands poison girls. We'll take a break Chris Eliza will join us when we return I. Am Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the underpants. Wants to talk about your underwear like seriously they have a lot of feelings about it and want to chat with anyone who will so here goes beyond. He's just wants everyone to feel comfy as heck with that freedom to express themselves. That's why they make the world softest undies in classic colors and thumbprints like Dyno's surfboards whatever you put on everyday, they want you. To be comfortable and to be you is your undead or something to be proud of or a little bit embarrassed by this very personal question I think. So I you know I, think there's different days call for different feeling than, and if you're going for that classic color or maybe the Dino prints, you're not feeling so good about the we are we are in the. We are already in the deep deep end of August we're pulling today's so. To be determined. Is Serious about this know like so serious, they scoured the world for the softest fabrics known to man it. All starts sustainably sourced beached trees that magically turned from pulp to yarn. Dundee's undies i. kind of feel like Kevin on your skin for comfort from the outside literally to in keep your under Joyce stocked with me undies membership. Then, they'll come to your door and you don't have to be so so embarrassed by contactless delivery. Oh. Yeah. A subscription that sends your new pairs right to your door plus get sitewide savings and exclusive salesman do it for pizza they can do it for underpants. These has great offer for Tony's listeners Freddie first time purchasers you get fifteen percent off and free shipping. It's a no brainer especially because they've one hundred percent satisfaction guarantee to get fifteen percent off your first order free shipping. One hundred percent satisfaction guaranteed. Go to me UNDIES DOT com slash Tony Kaye. Dot Com slash Tony Kay. Nice. REAP. Thanks Dad. You're listening to the Tony. Kornheiser show. This is Bob Fisher Andy Reid slow from a longtime fan of Tony. Lord have mercy on me and that's the name of the song I'm pushing. Sixty says, my name is Bob Fisher I'm a seventy, two year old POUGHKEEPSIE, New York, late bloomer aspiring songwriter folk blues, country pop, and satirically funny songs. I believe my music has great potential. Only the right person could hear it well, I. Don't think I'm the right person but maybe the right person listening here. he's given us a bunch of songs. This is I'm pushing sixty. We, we encourage people to send us their original music, Michael How do they do that? Send US he music by emailing it to. Jingles. At Tony Kornheiser show dot com you can listen to Bob Fisher in its in his entirety with I'm pushing sixty at the end of the show. You can go to it right now you don't have to listen to me because we are that encouraging about the music Chris Eliza joins US Chris is on fire island he's not on fire it's a place. On. Fire Island is off Nassau county where I grew up what is going on. You have no power only twenty edge. You know I seek outdoor adventure. Whenever, I can whenever I get it. Why why is everyone lively? Yeah. So I my mom, a house, my parents house out and my mom is kept it. On Fire Island in. Santa Barbara One youth here and we come here every. County on Nassau Brides. Jones beach. Nestle. But it suffered. We drove right through Jones beach to get here and you have to take a ferry to get out your because you have no cars. and so when the storm that I can't pronounce so. They. Yeah. Okay. What you said when it rolled through yesterday, we were fine. Honestly. It really wasn't bad. It rained for like twenty minutes and then and then it was very windy for most of the day. But at you know three thirty, we lost power and we have yet to regain. As I said to Nigel for got on it is not. A Barrier Beach with twenty houses out of power is I think a huge priority for the Long Island, a bright energy company. So right I would assume we will get it back at some point, but that point is not right now. So, but fortunately, Sunny Day. Yeah. You know it's it's totally fine. Everything is fine. My Mom's house totally fine. We packed everything away we take. Everything is just down whims but overall totally one, hundred percent five and you did a TV hit right before you lost power. Dishes the greatest so they now can do all this stuff through. Webex. This thing of Siennas I tv hit we got my mom's house behind me decorated. TV kids watched upstairs. My wife watched it from just off camera and then the power went out but it was great because I talked about Donald Trump's interview with axios, which was a wild ride. Speaking of interviews, there's an interview of Chris Cillizza in Connecticut magazine it's rather lengthy. It's mostly a question and answer how do you How do you feel about the article? I thought it was good I mean I as a reporter I never trust by the reporters you know and they're like, yeah no, she's just really just a friendly piece about that always feels a recipe for disaster. but I I thought I thought it was good. Guy Was Really Nice I got to clarify. unbeknownst to me, some people think including my mother. Thought that I started to call my Alma Mater, the limits. Pella. Games the LOOMIS Chafee School for the rich. No. I did. Why would I do that I did and. So but that is clarified in the article. That's why central because that's always appreciate. That was very nice. You said some you said some very, very nice things about me and the podcast but here, three questions I wrote down and you basically just answered them there and he hit it right in a row. I write down do you ever worry about talking to another writer Jeff worry about an agenda I tell people go live if you can never let people. Your words but you would agree with all of those things, right? Hundred percents. Anytime anytime someone says Hitman. We're working on a profile of you I'm like. This is not good. Because the truth of the matter is if you type my name into Google. Like. The things that will come up aren't. VICI- vichy is not good. I told my kids never knew that this this show CNN and then things I screwed up or people who've attacked me right and so it's like, yeah I mean you're going to get those questions like well, the Columbia Journalism Review said Jira Parm Scom what do you think? Just Yeah I. I refuse I mean I didn't I we talked obviously to my Lee and that apparently everyone has told me that worked out. Great. I still can't bring myself to read it. I can't bring myself to read it from my choice agents but I always tell people I say if someone wants to interview you. Your. Best Safest route is totally live totally live and then, and then if you don't like it, just get out of it just say I'm done. That's all just leave. That is true. especially. I think that you're saying the other thing and of course, you have to know the taping laws and every state and I don't do this, but you can record it. So that, you have a copy of exactly what you said in the context that you said it but I I'm not that paranoid I probably should be but I'm not that bad. But yeah I I would say as a reporter and writer, you're always wary. Just. In general though this guy was lovely we talked about we talked about Mike Lee Ron Francis and Kevin Dineen and the whalers he's from Connecticut? We it was clearly not adversarial. He asked me one or two questions about people. Basically I think some people say you suck do you have any back? General it wasn't. You know I mean it was fine. No, it is. It's fine. It's very, very nice but I just boy. Oh, boy. I instruct the people PTI when people call up and they say we'd like to talk to Tony about this. It's Tony's answered. Everything is no he's not going to do it. He's not going to do it, and if they come back five or six times I finally have to say boy I'd love to but I you know, I'm having surgery and I just can't do it for the next five years. So that's The. I think you have to be an and I it Michael was I know about profile. You have to be very careful you. You have to do some of your own research which our PR team does recent research. It just just because I think, I think the idea if somebody said. and. They're gonNA profile. You like all super cool. Not No you have to kind of be you have to be wary I would say these doesn't mean you should never do it and I thought this was cool. It's GonNa run in the magazine and September Mike United saying how my mom you know I mean there's It's very nice. But as somebody who has written, I made a living for years not as a columnist. But as a takeout writer, I did kill files I know how it works. Don't do it again. Usually usually the rule of profiles, the more you talk. The more problematic it'd probably be. You know it's anytime i. read those big cover story profiles. It's like in a series of rate wide ranging interviews over three months. I'm like. Well, it's going to be good. Everybody. Everybody puts their feet in their mouth all the time. Right so we have sports, we have basketball, we have hockey, we have haltingly baseball Yeah, the nationals have been have been good lately the last few games on five hundred. Yeah. What what are your thoughts have? They have they taken your mind off other things have you dived into them? Yet I now have the MLB extra innings package and the got whatever the the basketball. So I can watch every game right? I. I always love sports. I, mean, I grew up on the sports report. New but not having at all. and I felt not that they need it. But I felt you know these people are going to be rich whether or not I think but but the the. The I think what we forget. They are painting real risks to baseball eventually football. I wouldn't do it. If seen at him you know we're going to be three. Days. I. If Houston and then we'll get a there's no way there's no way I would do that even. Now, it be twenty, five, million dollars a year. Maybe that would Chinese. But I do think it is worth noting he's headed taking actual risk forget that they're they're human beings some level you know I got this thing was fascinating I I mean the disappearance a little weird. But the you know what you're saying I, don't think it's worth it for me So yes, I. missed it I. Think I realize more. Sacrifice that they make and time to just watch I I've tried to watch. To Watch the. Basketball obviously. I'm watching any skiing. This weekend was tough because I'm on vacation. Has Sunday known that I want I've been watching the padres actually. Really good what did binders but watch the astros just. Small behind him. Sure. Show I watched that Joe Kelley my kids like headlines and that led us to. Was the I can't remember what anniversary yesterday was the anniversary of Nolan. Ryan. Hitting Rome adventure and then Robin Church. Right beating. So couple times. Coming. With me with my voice yeah I mean they they are they. They look at the for the scored from four months. You're breaking up where are you? Are you standing in one spot or you walking? Standing in one spot on the move. Yeah you just it's just a I I'M GONNA ask a couple of obligatory political questions but not many because I. Think you know my my feelings are that my feelings are Joe Biden should never ever debate donald trump's you'll biden should never say anything you make the election a referendum donald trump. If you're Joe Biden, I believe that is a sound strategy but when will he name a VP and in your mind has he locked himself in a dangerous way I think he will name. Decision this week I think he will announce that decision next week which I. Honestly it's very consistent with what we would historical priming they usually do it right before the convention convention starts get seventeen. although it's not a normal convenient obviously, but but it starts. I would expect you know August. Ten eleven twelve thirteen. Now when you say he has he locked himself in union that he has said he's GonNa pick a woman. Yes. No I. Don't think. So because I, think there's plenty of options. Terms of lucky wants to do go boring, go bold go historic I I don't think he's like him. So I I do however think they are thinking like you are which is if this pick taking announces a week from tonight. If the coverage of this pack is kind of kind of boring could've gone boulder they'll be totally happy with that. Because this election the there's two things that have happened over the last four months one. Donald Trump's handling of corona virus has been panned by the public and just does. Not really seen right. Those things go in tandem but there's a reason for that as you say they they they understand that. What trump needs to do at this point, draw them out right he needs to draw by now needs a made by make a big mistake or a series of yes. If I if I never left his how Biden announced. His. Be Extended in this house in Delaware. The whole rest of the campaign he would win. I mean he he he might take a little for like Oh is he hiding? What's he doing this? So what? Okay. Yes. So what it? Is a referendum on Sean currently on the Virus Donald trump loses. So I think that that goes into WHO Biden picks I think there's less likely you reach for someone like Elizabeth Warren you know you make make liberal happy because you don't really need to liberal Donald Trump. and. So they're not gonna not vote if you don't Pick Elizabeth Warren at this point, right it seems unlikely. So I think it's one of you know relatively small handful of people I think Common Harris despite she's kind of getting run down lately but I, think she's still no mix Karen back obviously from California number of Congress former speaker of the California assembly's in the mix. Seen Rice is still in the next one. millbank. Lambda her the other day. Yeah. Well Rush. Susan Rice as interesting pick in that I think Biden probably likes her the back from his relationship with her right. They served together. She was the national security adviser L. A.. Ambassador you win you went by but yeah, she has I mean if you're looking for the most boring pig possible, she's the one who affectively took the fall for what happened in Benghazi Libya. you know and that will dredge up conservatives. They will be very excited about that. Now is it enough to swings suburban women I don't think so but if you're willing even the most boring possible, she's probably not it I think Kisha Lance bottoms is still in the next seat, the mayor of Atlanta. Who see his do you know who she is beyond being the mayor of Atlanta do you know her her father is? No Major. Lance the rock and roll singer. My that's her father. I'm told this she's the daughter of Iraq. Bump bump bump bump bump major lance major lance. How cool is that? Hilarious? That's really cool. No. I've been told that I think that's true. I don't know you know what I don't have to be. That vaguely twins the memory someone told me her father was famous. So we'RE GONNA go. That's enough. That's second sorts confirmation. Very cool. So I. Think She's Stealing Casino. The issue there is Biden wants experience you know he he wants someone who I mean. He's seventy seven years old You know he wants someone who can step into that job if it's after one term, he decided some. Is being the mayor of Atlanta enough you know I, don't I don't know. But I think those are the the four and maybe throw Tammy Duckworth the senator from Illinois Injured in Iraq, double amputees. Lags, I sitting US senator a baby in in the Senate not actually. For but while serving in the Senate I, think she's GonNa Make Sushi them credible resume So I would say those five I don't think Warren I've been down on war is. Picking her I just don't think they. He likes her in terms of feels as though they have a connection there, very different, politically and I think he would have only picked her if. He had to you know if he felt like the party was fracturing. Given, my track record of predicting who's going to win elections. You should put all of your on Noah's with Warren being vp there. Yeah I think that's the safest thing to this. Thank you Chris, enjoy the rest of I. Hope you get power back. Yeah. We will eventually be I'm going to go walk the ocean. Okay. Good. It's all around you by. Eliza, boys and girls we'll take a break. We'll come back with email in jingle I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. The Don't. Doubt. Sony. Mail faxes Anchin note. Here comes. Back. Saab ferrall. News, but the whole Sandy. Facts. Jason Fused covering Gary Braun nods you WanNa talk about Bethesda Bagels, and then we'll do the rest of the rates I do need but I just want to confirm in fact that major lance is Kiesha Lens Yeah. Major. Linda. Rock and roll star. Bagels we love Bethesda bagels you want as well as several patients around the area. Just go to Bethesda bagels dot com for the location nearest you we go to the one at forty eight nineteen Bethesda Avenue. And they're open every day from seven to three PM. We let you as well stop by check them out that'll do it for us today. But before we get to the mail bag, let me just say when I pulled into Nazareth I was feeling about half past dead. I just need some place where I can lay my head mister can you tell me a man can find a bed? He just grins shake my hand. No was only said thanks to our guest today. That's the ban by the way Steve Sands on the golf channel CNN's Chris Cillizza thanks as well to our sponsors me undies in Lincoln Financial Room. You can listen to us on apple podcast spotify Google play radio DOT COM. If you get the show through tunes, please leave us a review Michael. You're checking your phone just a quick plug from Connor feral the women's Sam this week at Woodmen, and at the end it'd be you can watch it on the Golf Channel Four to seven today. Yeah. See the socialite wandering the Fairwood Country Club. Yeah. The socialite is probably going to be there. Yeah. So we're we all hope that does very very wants a beautiful day today from Rick. Sharp on Monday I went to one and two, thousand twenty emails read. If you read this one, I'm shutting it down to ensure I finished with a better winning percentage than the marlins from Ross, in Gainesville I was delighted to hear you mentioned the brothers four on the podcast I accidentally came upon them listening to an all Christmas Song Plan Chicago when they played Christmas is coming by the brothers four I'd never heard this nor had. My then fifteen year old son who was into all sorts of dreadful sounding music and even he said this is the greatest Christmas song ever for any of your listeners who haven't heard their version of this classic I, urge you to give it a spin. Mr Tony is right there rely heavily on vocals, and this is an amazing version. What's better than hearing the Geezer getting fat and if you haven't got a penny, penny will do what's a hey penny love your show when of course eats Eliza Hey, pennies a half penny. That's. In England yeah, YEAH WE BILL IS ACCENT I hope you're well in gaining weight no, I'm not last week Judd apoptosis production company reached out to the state of Garry shandling which as you know currently consists of me Judd as you also know, is somewhere on the list of people who slighted you try to make up for it by doing the great documentary about Gary Anyway after productions wanted permission for an image of Gary. Which is a painting that was in the background of the King of Staten Island and other really good movie by Judd I asked who did the painting and Bam David Aldridge moment the painter was Dan Bern I asked deeper in the musician. Yes. Apparently in addition to writing for your podcast and has been writing music for Judd's movies for some years. So I reached out to Dan and over the weekend I tweeted his painting of. Gary from at Garry shandling connective tissue from Carl boothby in Ponte Vedra Beach Florida which he says home of the Fifth Major. No not sure unknown peppers. Any chance you plant the Chinese seeds. These peppers have now turned yellow. They are in the process turning red Michael refused to eat one yesterday refused yet every time I come over there more slices on the count because we want to get you eat a man Shane in Madison. Wisconsin, I'm a product manager for a company. Wisconsin that is the world leader in Rodent Control Technology. We're not interested in Cayenne or hair mentors or any of that crap. We're instant one thing extermination. Your tomato evidence notwithstanding squirrels aren't actually considered agricultural pests or risk to public health. So you aren't allowed to poison them, but you can use traps in accordance with local regulations when you want to kill them let me know I am. The God of death, and that is a reference from Michael Clayton one of the greatest movies of all time from John Barnett and Bloomington Illinois. Third Time though you did not meet my previous two emails on the air but I think with this one, I was shot. So why up at four am I'm doing my usual morning routine reading several news websites when the headline grabs me that I thought might Pique your interest the title read Katie decky swims length of pool with glass of chocolate milk on our head. Naturally I was intrigued and I watched an face video of her pouring the milk placing on top of our heads swimming the length of the pool breathing through. A scuba tube carefully grabbing it and drinking the entire glass knowing what a fan you are of her and knowing that you have no social media accounts, whatsoever. I. Thought I would email to you and encourage Michael Nigel to show you truly an amazing feat. Of course then the inner Mr Tony methinks yes sure. She can do with chocolate milk but no way she could do it with regular milk. It's a totally different dynamic. I was shown this yesterday in fact it was happy trails was happy trails to spilt milk for Katie, decky. If it is real if it is not doctored it simply amazing. Yeah. She swims with a glass of milk on her head and doesn't spill a drop. As I said at the end of the the end of the show, I can't walk from the from the table to the sink without spilling something she swam fifty meters and it didn't didn't lose a drop of milk. It's just it's incredible. It's incredible. If you're by everybody has always do wear White House. Abs Es Pajamas show that Tony Kornheiser. Show fast. Sweating in. There's a heart. Muscle land both. Through the cover panic grants Ogle. Stuck in Dreamland. Gravel. I. More man. You got to come along just y'all. Going through routine. Staten. Limbaugh. Not. Your. I'm pushing sixty Lord have mercy on me. Some them. into me and I can taste it. Something's got a hold on me, I don't know how to shake it now then I can do learn despite land embrace it. Bush and sixty lowered have mercy on me. Li I've been noticing that something is the matter. My hair is theater but my belly's getting fatter. We to visit from my bladder Bush sixty Lord I gotta do. Boost and six stay. Ninety. Check. Sixteen. Jesus. Pieces drop. In. Trouble copen how? This is closed and wide open nowhere on Mackenzie. Senior moment Bush, and sixty lowered of mercy on the. How come I forgot the keys still indeed. Dinner burning in the kitchen how my losing My Fish. Bush sixty lowered. I wish I could see you. camp. Were Stephen Mountain. person. Six. Jesus on watching these dropped. Now my bell, the sluggish and call the drug is. Erica. Within Me Move in over got enough to you Ben. Our. Discount on my movie passes. Public I'm a symphony of gases. Remember, we put my reading glasses. Bush sixty lower dare up on my. Every week. Day Cold Not every day. I'm popping pills and squeezing. Am I really watch Laurence Welk for some enjoyment. Bush sixty lowered I. Wish I was dead. Verses Six Nine count. The Mountain. John. Jesus. Should the sister My Wind is breaking. Down my Choisir Aitken back and feel the muscle cramps. Geriatric to Oprah that chicken oh? My God. She called me grams. All the. Spots. Fade me look good. Cholesterol and sugar sags from. The Bushes six, they might potato is done. Now. I have to skip the with my favorite topping. Much pressure rising. Dropping now diapers to my supermarket shopping. Bushes sixty someone. Get me a gun. Count. Oh. Jesus. Grow. Watch.

Tony Kornheiser Mr Tony Michael Campbell Justin Thomas Chuck Bell Maryland PGA Bud Sean Chris Cillizza Steve Sands Chris Eliza Joe Biden writer Washington DC Donald Trump golf football Justin NATS basketball
"Shut up Chessie"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:03:50 hr | Last week

"Shut up Chessie"

"Previously on the tony kornheiser show. Yeah now they've done very well under him. I have to check to see how many times they made the conference finals. But gordon hayward would opt out four million dollars in your hand when you got injured two years ago. Yeah i know. I was here as well. Yeah he's been his whole story with the celtics has been icons on the floor. Yeah so expulsion catch up. Yeah spy it. The tony kornheiser show is on now. I don't bleed for gordon hayward he just made one hundred twenty million dollars from charlotte. He's going to play from michael jordan and he's going to go play with lamelo ball you know people have moved around nobody consequential moved right. Nobody really consequential has moved yet. But gordon hayward is relatively consequential certainly could help charlotte. We are going to do shows. Monday wednesday and friday. This week we will do a show after thanksgiving and the thought behind it is a. I have nothing else to do and be. You'll hate your family beyond words by then and you'll be afraid that they're going to give you the virus so you may as well listen the two one. Five showers in the forecast. Yes so i can't play can't teatime can't get a tee time at columbia cannot get a time because there is a conspiratorial. I mean i don't wanna sound like the president of the united states current president united states and talk about conspiracy theories but it seems clear to me that a small cadre of people have gone Through vpn probably and they've gotten the ability to get into the system and book all the good times now just all data system that we have access to but the times seats taken. Yeah because we got one the other day we got a time the other day for three twenty four. It's dark at four thirty. Three twenty four means you play four holes. It's just ridiculous so luckily we were able. Steve rose and i were able to get out earlier. Michael's here you can hear his voice. I wanted to read a couple of emails. This is from mike. O'brien in boston formerly rivera. This is a couple of weeks ago. So the news is old but the he said i had to fly to fort myers to be with my mom because she's getting is surgery this week so that was a couple of weeks ago. We hope that went well. Needless to say. I'm not excited to fly but was excited to see my connection was in dulles not reagan as i was hoping but it was dulles which is such a generic airport. But that isn't the point of the story being in dc. I was so excited to where my chatter t shirt. Because i figured i'd get so many. Tk salutes and people coming up to me reminiscent about all the good times. They had chatter even though apparently nobody went there. Because it's out of business while all buying water at hudson news a guy came up to me with his son and said you listen to mr tony. I said yes i do. I love hearing his hot. Sports takes tyler. Who had long hair when he played for the wizards man looked at his ten year. Old and said give it to the man. The ten year old handed me a small box of walkers and gave me the salute and lychees. Arenas dad said this is the garbage. He gives out for halloween. You'd figure that. Espn money he give out. Full-size payday bars. Wonderful emailed as is this. This is from stephen. Coleman yesterday was my first day at my new job. It wasn't too bad. Considering i had to tell a work from home. After twenty years military service in the united states air force officially retired on november first with all the trials and tribulations covid nineteen has brought many people this year. What idiot retires during the global pandemic as a longtime listener to the podcast. Pti crazy stories from bambi at the little house to china sink. Your phone to the cadillacs got me through many rough days both home and abroad. Thank you for many years of entertainment into many more in the future by the way had some assistance. I need some assistance with my fantasy bowling league. I didn't know there was such a thing i have. The number two picks. Should i go jake or butter. F- or don barrett. Sean nash and jason del monte or too shabby either again. Thank you sir. I'll take your answers off the air or more jason del monte Or more of the cornhole experts. Yeah we don't we don't know this at all so anyway let's do some. Nfl bunch of great games. Yesterday the the kansas city chiefs game and i did not stay up for the end. I believe the kansas city chiefs are the best team in football You could make the case that right now. The pittsburgh steelers are the best team in football. Both of them are in the. Afc a lot of the really good teams seemed to be in the afc. There is much more compression in the nfc. The worst teams in the nfc have three wins or four wins the worst teams in the afc have no wins or one win so the disparity in the afc from top to bottom is greater but the better teams. I believe her in the afc. Andy reid now. Nineteen and three out of a by and he had to win late and the reason he could win. Late is kaz patrick. Mahomes as the best player in football and pretty much has been since he became a star in the first half and have this is what the third time andy reid. Nine nine and one in kansas city is that right. i think i just saw it on the news. Well i mean andy reid. Nineteen and three out of a bye week. That's a big game. The raiders are better than you thought at the beginning of the year. The raiders beat them in kansas city. Took the victory lap in the buses. Angered andy reid. maybe And and now the chiefs came back. But the raiders covered. Chuck todd in the middle of very bad week. One and five jeff ma three two and one but chuck todd one and five at the moment got beat on green bay green. Bay's a three point game. The green bay game. Aaron rodgers takes him down. The field takes one shot in the end zone doesn't get it gets the tie and then his receiver. Fumbles like on the second play of the overtime and indianapolis winds indianapolis pretty good. I apologize for my scratchy throat but indianapolis is pretty good at this point. I think better than we thought. Philip rivers so i know chuck todd hays. Philip rivers. Did a pretty good job. Follow that a real quarterback. Did you notice at the end of the game. Where aaron rodgers was talking to. Philip rivers and philip rivers is much bigger than i thought. He's gotta be. Could you look philip. Rivers is c. Six five or as aaron rodgers. Five ten at this point because he seemed to tower over in the way my son towers over me. That was a really good game. Packers colts the chiefs. Game was great. Yeah six five to twenty eight. He's a big boy than i thought. Yeah he's bigger because he doesn't throw big he throws smalley throws side army throws patriots and Texans good game interesting game to watch cam. Newton cam throw at deep anymore. He can't they look like they're going to be out of the playoffs. Falcons and saints. Everybody was wringing their hands about tatum. Hill including me. I mean i really thought jason james winston would start all tastes. Some hill did was be great. I mean the that shuts everybody up and again the one thing i did say on. Pti was look. I thought jameis winston would start and he would get better. I said the reason. I thought he would get better. Is because of sean payton. Because i think sean payton's a genius on offense. And so i said but he's he's now. Yeah i said if sean payton is going take some hill. I'm going to withhold any criticism. Till i see what happens in the game and take hill was really good. Surprise where the rushing touchdowns right. He's a good runner. Yeah no no no. He's a very good runner. he's got. That's those are seventh and eighth rushing touchdowns in his career. he'd only thrown twenty passes in his whole career. He threw three more passes yesterday then in his whole career. The cowboys vikings. That was a terrific game. Cowboys win much like the washington football team. They are three and seven and a half a game out at advance. Dallas week apparently. Yeah we didn't have this. Giving neither michael. Nor i knew that that was this thanksgiving game at dallas. So that was good. Eagles brown's the eagle stink. I their offense scored for the first half they're just tear carson wentz. I mean you just have to say to yourself boy. Oh boy did. Did they have thrown good money after bad. It's just not. it just doesn't seem to work. Oh he did win that super bowl. Yeah no he did it. The other guy exactly and titans ravens. That was a really good game. I now once again. you're asking. The question is lamar jackson incapable of winning big games. Tennessee came back in that game and in the overtime hand into the big board. Use hannah tomb. See what happens did you did you like. I love that game. I was so. I was watching a lot of that red zone and i feel so bad because at the end of the game. I'm not gonna lie. I took the boys out to play. T-ball this is going to go for a ride. And i see a neighborhood neighborhood kid and when you have a kid around the same age you always start. Engaging he's wearing jackson jersey. And i'm like did you see that touchdown pass to a andrew right at the author marc-andre the tight end thirty one. Thirty one yard that romo explained so well as to you know like okay. If he's not a neat you're going to throw it out just to keep it safe. Pretty turns them around some going into that. I'm so animated and his mom just looks goes. He didn't see over time. Did you should like. We had to get out of the house. I'm so sorry. I was so the other thing i wanted to say was what made me feel. The worst was joe burrow Now i don't know what it is if it's if it's an acl or it's something but immediately if you go back and football for say the last ten twelve fifteen years and you think of carson palmer at cincinnati and other heisman trophy winner. Who looked so good and then in his first in the first few minutes of his first playoff game got an injury that he never really got over. Cas cincinnati can protect them and it doesn't look like they can protect joe burrow. And i think joe burrow's really good really good and he goes out and he says see next year on a tweet so he knows it's bad that made me feel bad was not a dirty play. No the field strikes again not a dirty play at all by the way when when washington wears those particular uniforms and i've seen them where those over the years once in a while. I love those uniforms. The burgundy sort of really solid color shirts without a lot of a demi left t- also keeps growing on you in growing like it. I mean i got a text the other day from a friend of mine said when are they going to change the name and i said why why why would they change the name. Why would why would you give them a nickname when it's always going to be compared to forgive me for saying this redskins and it's never going to be well liked in the same way that that was. Why wouldn't you stay with this where it has a very old timey look to. It doesn't it. Does i just wish it was established. Twenty twenty and the ever forget. Yeah it looks. It looks pretty good. I've thermostat issues in my house. That i don't wanna talk to you about at one point. I wrote a note. I wrote this particular note to open the show. With which is you have to fire. Adam gays right and then they just got back in the game at the end. The jets covered. Jeff ma one on the cover and they covered because the charges took a safety right. What did they win by that. Was they won by six. So that's two points. What was that. What was the spread in that game. Nigel nine and a half. they would've covered anyway. The jets have covered anyway. So jeff ma was three into twenty four twenty eight and three. Reginald finally had a winning week. He was two and one half good for monkey but he's fourteen and nineteen shows. Chuck todd chuck todd on thursday and lost every game yesterday. Lost five yesterday. And he's got the rams plus three and a half against tampa bay tonight. He could go one in six chuck. Todd won the week. He needed to win. Yes yes he did. That was a couple of weeks ago. Anyone still riding high so we will get out of here now and when we come back michael wilbon will join excited wilpon. He's very excited about northwestern extremely short. He's really so let's get out of here. I'm tony kornheiser. This is the tony kornheiser show. This is the butcher box at the butcher box. I read with mixed feelings. And i don't really have to read it. I read with mixed feelings. Because this is something i like very very much and i have subscribed to this through my daughter for the last six or seven months and we get steaks and we get chopped meat and we get chicken and pork chops and we get salmon. And it's it's very good. it's never forget. Put your box kaci supplies when they were none none to be had. That's exactly right. And i'm i'm fed. I am a hearty endorser but here here listen to this. Luckily today sponsor butcher box believes everyone deserves high quality. You mainly sourced meat but you box couldn't be easier. Just sign up. Select your box and they ship it to your door every month. Here's here's the critical one. And it's it's underlined in yellow. And when you signed up now you get. Their stake. sampler with six grass-fed grass finished stakes. Because the best steak night is free steak night. I didn't get that. I get three things that they offer I didn't get. And i really cannot tell you how much i endorse this. It's one of the few things that i totally by by myself. There's a dog barking and the dog can be heard across the street because we had an incident today. So i've been telling you about this. No anti no added antibiotics or hormones. Ever each box has nine to eleven pounds of meat enough for twenty four individual meals. It's packed fresh it shipped frozen. It's vacuum sealed. So it stays that way you can customize your box or go with one of theirs. It's the best meat shipped right to your door. Which means one less trip to the grocers. And it's meet the way it should be really good so you you have. I don't know if they wanted my personal endorsement. Maybe they did but they get it anyway. Because i buy it for a limited time. New members get six free grass-fed grass finished stakes. When we go to butcher box dot com slash cadence c. a dnc slash cadence. That's to new york strips jesse. Shut up that's to new york strips and four top sirloin added to your first box for free it's added. It's an add on act quickly. The offers only through cyber monday. That is six grass fed grass finished stakes for free. And your first box. Just go to butcher box dot com slash cadence. Butcher box dot com slash cadence. Listening to the tony. Kornheiser show though lamented anybody k. The last exciting thing we had was the bridge on jumping the michigan avenue bridge populist pack and aaron rodgers brett farve and bart star. We had rudy. bobby. Douglas virgil carter. I still have nightmares of tom. Sat larry rake straw. I'm waiting for payton fumble fake drug dome. Try to comfort. With butkus and shane mack. I'm still recovering from. Kent mix and john have land. Walter scorns and of the fridge of michigan avenue bridge like anybody cares since then we've gone no wears should have had more hardware. Surely we're still trying without buddy ryan. The defense was by. Terry was crying. I pray to poster this. Is dan sleep sleepless. Risky dream of trubisky our coaches and our cubeys. All one big Buffo it's all been downhill since the super bowl. Craig herring kramer evans. Kate mcmahon in mississippi canada town. Last cheer for was a lineman called the bridge as you do bridge. Nick foles latest exploits. Just more halis hair michigan avenue. Great dan bern playing michael wilbon with a song every single name. he is familiar with. But i'll get to better times early on northwestern wins. Michael is sitting here. I said i watched the whole game. He said you might as well be a donor at this point. You care so much about north western that had to make you ecstatic ecstatic because north wet because kansin came in with an offense that looked tremendous. And you shut down. That kid mertz totally. Yeah tony by the way. The song is hysterical. But the person is sort of exposed himself. When he said that they weren't buying single-tier. I sorta you sorta as tight as it was otherwise. So it's ninety nine percent net. Line makes me go up not chicago there man. Don't you can never say not buying single. I know but it did. It unraveled because of that. It's like oh no no. No that's one of the magic names. You can insult every quarterback forever and he did. That was brilliant. But you can't. You can't touch single terry. So now Yeah tony as you know. I thought wisconsin was overrated coming into the season. I didn't like look. Do you know there's a great stat. And i'm gonna get it wrong too early for me to be trying to juggle stats but North western is like four and three against wisconsin wisconsin three or four against north western over the last seven years against everybody else in the conference. Wisconsin is like fifty something in three. We have beaten wisconsin more than the rest of the conference in the last seven years. Yeah heard that stat on during the game. And i was or maybe it was big ten network layer when i was watching so much. I reveled it. That's the greatest birthday present was. My birthday was thursday to that saturday birthday. That saturday win. That's that's you know. It's one of our signature wins. Particularly game was on. Abc and most of the country is in the three thirty time slot to p north. Western's i used to be in the two three thirty time slot after national game. that's alabama. that's george michigan state at. Usc is not us and to win. That game. that way on national television is just that you know and to be just basically blanket as you mentioned just. i mean. i wasn't a job. Twenty seven seventeen seven job but as you know the big ten of ten point win can be. You know. I mean it could accurately be crushing. And it's sorta was for wisconsin. Defense has been crazy. Good points in the second half in five gangs two points total. So of course now tony. I'm already terrified. i'm i'm. I'm i'm worried about michigan state. This week because michigan state has had a week off and our kids. Tony we we. We don't we. Don't do well in the lead position. We don't do well favorite. And i'm thrilled that we're eleven but part of it. We're ranked eleven. I texted you yesterday but now now we're going to be favored to win the final three big ten games until the dynamic tony that we you know we all really handle historically that will so. I'm terrified about that now. But yeah. they're wisconsin game. That was a. That's a high that that's a lifetime highlight circumstance and win for us so we have our great endear mutual friend david israel who also a graduate of northwestern and i i emailed him about congratulations on the win and he said don't get crazy. Ohio state has forty five four and five star recruits northwestern has four four and surely ohio state. Yeah yeah i'll come into. That new building went up that you saw beautiful lord. Yeah beautiful building and so ohio state will certainly be favored. There's a long term. Play though. And i need to ask you about this. I told you yesterday. I would ask you about this. Your coach pat fitzgerald was an academic all american at northwestern. He's done a great job at northwestern he has more wins than anybody ever there. Maybe he hasn't put the program and the map in the way that our par- seekin did but he's been a great coach. He has always rumored to be going to either notre dame michigan if those jobs are open and one of those jobs will be open soon. Jim harbaugh will doubtless leave a michigan. One way or another. But what david said and this is the and i know. You don't want him to coach. Notre dame or michigan because it's college and its lateral. What what if. The bears job opened. What if the bears job open then. They went to the local kid. What do you what what you couldn't say. No could you know. I don't think he can't make you. Can i mean pat fitzgerald grew up like i did in the place i did you know. I think i've written several times to check the mileage. I think my house up. My my parents grew up in ninety. Two miles from south bend. Pat fitzgerald grew up. Like i dunno eight miles south of me. He's like eighty four miles up southbound. I don't know whether fits. Hey you either. You grew up. We grew up either adore notre dame. And you you just adored it and you wanted to go there you that resistible or you hate it. And so. I don't know if it comes out. And let me tell you why he's never going to notre dame first of all things got a coach and they're going be college. No names like casting about for coach now yet so i said to yesterday. How much do you think the salary of the coast. I was stunned when you wrote this to me. I was stunned at how much money brian kelly makes it. Notre dame absence twenty six seven million dollars. Maybe i would have thought it was at least six or seven million dollars. I looked up one point. Six six seven million dollars. You wanna so low makes right now. It's over three three. It's twice as much as kelly almost to pay if if what if what is published is accurate. Let me just say that if what is accurate three point three three point four and so i don't know what i gotta be. The highest paid coach in the conference. I mean they will get there if you don't have already there. Maybe he's already there kerr. But but but michigan is michigan. Turning on the the the bloom is off the rose. I mean i. I don't know that. I don't think that the michigan job is so great. That path is look. They're gonna cau- they're going to call us and say we wanna talk to pass this joe. I told you last night. I would say that michigan hike eat dirt. Give you permission to do anything. You're nothing anymore. So that leaves notre dame. Would you take. would you take fifty percent. Pay-cut no no no. You wouldn't know no so now you raise you raise this thing. It gave me an china the rest of the day. You put me on the phone yesterday calling people because it makes sense and david's idea. Yeah it's david's idea. That that i started calling people with ties to both chicago northwestern bears and basically the reaction was. Yeah yeah i've been fearing this. The last filling like twenty four hours forty eight hours two weeks. Whatever and i don't know tony. I feel the bears to me. Need the fire nagy. I've i've been. I've been following northwestern football system mid seventies. Maybe a year to before i went there when i knew i was gonna go to north western. So that's forty five years. I've been there ten years longer. Thank you know. I mean i just have And so so a lot of these people they have that relationship with it. I don't know. I don't know the bears at the top of the tree are smart enough to call pat. I don't know if they understand what the bears need right now. They don't often have guru. You know how that worked out. Mark trestman how that worked out matt nagy. They don't need a defensive guru. How that workout. Dave wants that how that work out john fox. Although worked for lovey. They they don't they don't. I don't know that they're smart enough to understand. They need to see they need. They need fitzgerald. They the guy who can be the face of that thing and electrify town but also coach and so pass not just a northwestern. He's chicago guy. he continues bears. That's who he is. So so you know i look. I'm terrified of michigan state minnesota illinois right. Now so i you know. I'm stopping the train. Just short of hold on let pat jump off but if the business smart. That's that's you know what. I don't think people you don't you. Don't lose names. You don't recognize ted phillips and the know people who involve the running of the chicago bears in the name of the houses. And i don't know that they're smart enough to understand he could be the guy now that right now like at like if we go to a second big ten championship game in playhouse. The i don't care what the result is if we go there and a second time in three years. How many times michigan been lately. Last three zero would be correct. And by the way harbaugh you know how long i wanted kharbatha costa bears. I do i know that. yeah so. it's the irony is inescapable for for people. Like me and for david israel and for the folks so i don't know i i'm afraid of the big ten west right now so i'm i'm not counting chickens but yeah you put me in a panic yesterday when when you relate that and I i mean. I'm proud of where they are i to we got. I told you at the beginning of this year. We got sunday players and it is interview with. Espn on the field afterward. Fits said almost that sentence he got guys who are going to be all americans we got guys. We're gonna play on sunday. That may not be a big deal even say at merlin but we have sunday always something else. Yeah we we we oughta graham. We got a greater quarterback in the history of northwestern than either the the how eight they don't have anybody like grammy history so we have. We have sunday people but not the abundance. We have now man. And so i if we can just get through these next three weeks until house they. I'll take whatever the result is for the how we get. We get to the nfl briefly. I just wanted to bring up this one thing. You're not on the show. You took the day off friday. Which is fine when the announcement was will not the announcement when it was reported that tatum hill and not jameis. Winston would start for new orleans. I was skeptical. I think everybody was skeptical. What what tempered. My skepticism was my feeling sean. Payton really is an offensive genius over a long period of time. I think he knows what he's doing. And i think if he chose this guy over that guy. I was going to wait and see. It turned out to be a very good choice. Did not taste them hill. The saints again look good. They looked good. I thought the entire volume over the discussion was over modulated. This like he didn't say he was sending james winston to bermuda tasting hill. Who who has played in that system some for years. So i thought that the whole discussion was just sort of overwrought overly dramatic and just like stop you know and so i thought where he started with been fine. He'll bring in the other guy if he needs to the winston play any snaps. I don't think so i'm not. I mean i was on the red zone. I didn't see it. I just want i have now at the point. Th the the the overstatement of everything that happens in the nfl. To the point. Where i'm now root for everything that everyone else is talking isn't talking about. So you know this awarding of the championship trophy to tampa bay. What i've seen them get beat by forty bears like. Don't tell me that. Don't tell me that this is the the seven or eight patriots or whatever it was when they went now because it really looks like if you're paying attention it really looks like pittsburgh in kansas city are above it really see they don't. They don't seem bay. I don't know but i think is interesting. Tonight is interesting. The sunday night and monday night have have some heft to them. Because i wanna see what you know t to tampa. Tom does because he's had to. He's had to embarrassing losses. Tom brady doesn't have that no orleans coach coach at all. So let's see what they're going but Yeah tony and and by the way. I made the mistake i. I even said last night watching the kansas city game. I know you asleep. And i said okay. If the raiders is coming here and be kansas city. I want to hear everybody's excused this morning on every network covers. Football raiders. look good. They look good and they had the game. Wait the other guy is the best then. Put the raiders are better than we thought the raiders. After four weeks after ten weeks there are a lot better than than we thought he really good and i. they aren't kansas city. Do you want to see them in the afc championship game. I don't know no you know. And so i thought man. There's there's some intrigue there which we didn't think we had And maybe new orleans. Wow if new orleans. Look i don't expect him to win convincingly every week but wow i don't think breezes coming back come on. The dude has ten fracture. Honey fractures can you have in your ribs without being in a car accident and seven car pileup so a lotta ribs. So why this notion that drew brees. Somebody had a great line on radio. Yesterday i was out. I left my house for like four minutes the entire day. You gotta get subway sandwich and turned on some radio and somebody said you know if for jubran. I feel fine. I'm gonna be back soon. I wanna hear somebody with dr in front of his name saying now. 'cause i ain't by it. He'll be back soon they put him on. Ira he's gotta miss at least four to six the no. He's not going to see you later. I'll talk michael wilpon. Boys and girls will take a break back. Forty will join us when we return pat forty of sports illustrated. I am tony kornheiser. This is tony kornheiser show. This is the ben shero. Add now. I know that i've been corrected and not to save in shero vin sarel but i save in chair because i think they want you to save in chiro. This is the black friday cyber monday week. So that is going on right now. Until the second of december it's fifteen percent off sitewide twenty percent off to more twenty five percent off three hundred dollars or more free shipping on all orders and the discount will be applied for everyone meaning. No coupon code will be required. Be sure to say up to twenty five percent off so you're going to get a code. Anyway that says tony but even if you blow it you're going to get the whole thing. As long as you remember to do it correctly a watch should be something you look forward to putting on every day in chereau's dedicated to the craft. They put the time and effort into crafting timepieces. C can wear them day after day after day. Avoid the last minute holiday stress or you. Perfect gift online right now. Take advantage of this huge sale snow code required but please use the code. You discount will be automatically applied at checkout. This has been chair. Biggest sale of the year and everything on the site is on sale including sunglasses wallets and bracelets and i didn't even know they made those. I just thought it was a watch company. I had no idea may bracelets use the personal link. Which is tony to take advantage of insurance biggest discounts and you will get up to twenty five percent off plus free shipping automatically applied to your order. So there's a conflict here you can use the code. You don't even have to use the code but for into yeah there. There's a pop up. Just continue without the twenty five percent off. Who's clicking that. No why would. I continue with twenty five percent off now. No no no no. Here's that used personal link. Www dot ventura watches v. i. v. i. ncaa venture watches guam. Tony that's what you should do. Yeah i it's. I'll do that again because the end of this. I don't even understand about any other questions. Please contact some guy. We're not given the guy's name just go to. Www dot ventura watches dot com slash. Tony and you should ask them about this copy. Because it's confusing at the end. Okay venturo watches and you do to do. And they're they're is the tony kornheiser show porta. This is the alex wins trio and he or they right alex rights. Thanks for spending my music on the pot a few weeks ago. Here's another original tune for my album. Live to tape titled eli minnesota. I wrote it. Because i was in tour on tour. And eli minnesota up in the north woods minnesota and there was nothing to do any line minnesota but write a song called. Eli minnesota are. The album has just been released. On friday which coincided with band camp fridays in which the website waves its revenue share and gives that directly to the artists. That's very very nice Michael if people like the alice winds trio of the great dan bern one send in their music. How did they do send us your music. By emailing it to jingles at tony kornheiser show dot com. And really as you know you can less anthem voice. You can listen to this music without me. Talking over it. At the end of the podcast. Pat forty of sports illustrated joins us. Now there are million things to talk about to have come up immediately. We're going to talk about so many games being lost the corona virus but to have come up immediately and because dabo sweeney had his fifty first birthday on friday and then on saturday got angry at florida state. Let us start with that. Sweeney is is saying. This game was postponed because of the virus. It was not. The implication is at florida state was gutless. And didn't wanna play them. Does that hold water for you know. It really doesn't now. Here's something we're going to be running into. I think increasingly down. The stretch of the season is who still wants to play. And who doesn't who. Just you know trying to come up with reasons. They don't want to play. But in this instance. I mean clemson flew to tallahassee with the player who was positive who was on the plane who was interacting with all his teammates And if that's the case of order state. I don't blame for two statement saying no. We don't feel great about this situation. They may also feel great about losing sixty five or six but legitimate concern on on their behalf. Here at this point. Yeah so so is. Sweeney is is he looking for headlines or is he. What is his motivation in this so i thought well first of all. He doesn't want this to be seen as clemson was responsible. Taking a covid positive player to They didn't tell hassi. And and also the the kid practice that week and you know it's like hey what's glimpse but then also you know. I do think that they're feeling very much. Yeah florida states ducking us. I mean clemson as florence. Thank for to stay mates. clemson This you know dallas wean has yet take the virus terribly seriously. You know in any form or fashion. It seems like they get him to wear a mask on the sideline but if you remember going back this was a situation one of these guys. That was The most concerned about things going back to two spring. No i would say that. Gundy and sweeney are sort of the anti Tooth squad in terms of the virus whereas nick sabin Who for you know on a lot of levels. I find him a phony but he's he's been good on this hasn't he. He's worn the male time. He's been good. Yeah no he's been very serious about it and that i don't know i mean it may be legitimate concern. Maybe hey we don't play football without mass. So we're wearing masks. You know. I don't know but yeah gundy and and dental i would say i. I'm not general devils. Quite going to the point of of taking up per se or o. a. n. but But otherwise i would put him in the category back in the spring. Certainly of all this just a hoax. you have a piece out on auburn. I have not gotten to read it but since he wrote it. You can explain it to me. But if i understand it correctly it basically says yeah. The end is near for this program. Yeah yeah and this is the thing with this program is that you know. They were given they were. They were involved in the federal investigation of college basketball. Back in twenty seventeen and the whole thing you know went underground and then they were given an double notice of allegations in january and refused to acknowledge it. Basically just wouldn't say it existed with say yes wouldn't say dow And left their fans and the public completely in the dark under the assumption. Everything's fine everything is fine. Is the problems here and they all of a sudden. They're imposing a postseason ban on themselves. Which do if everything is fine So this is a clear indication that what's in the notice of allegations from the ncwa is major at is serious and could result in a lot of penalties in auburn is trying to be clever here by saying well. This season going to be a mess. We're not going to be that good so we'll just take our band now and everything will be fine. And there's even a quote from bruce pearl that says we'll get this behind us. Well it's not really the way it's gonna work. I don't think that thera potential penalties out there that could last for a lot longer than one season he earned bruce pearl himself could be Very much impact but one of the good things about bruce pearl is that he's so great on tv that he'll get a job he's really good on tv. Yeah what about the other. Two big name schools that we wait for kansas and arizona. Yeah kansas sala definitely they don't open and said hey here's where we disagree. Were fighting it. But here's what we're charged with. Arizona has acknowledged receiving a notice of allegations that they haven't released it yet Both of them are major. Major cases. kansas's much further along. We're not sure exactly how far along but You know that one word. We're getting closer. I would think that that but still nothing. I don't think that comes out will affect kansas for this basketball season and certainly not arezzo for this basketball season. Not lsu probably not louisville maybe nc state. We'll see there's so many cases that are up in the air all right. We've let me get to the corona virus issue People that look at the nfl see that they play all the time. People look at college say. They are canceling postponing right and left here. The difference. one of the obvious difference is that the. Nfl can afford to test their people every single day because the money that they bring in is even greater than the money that the colleges bring in and it is more concentrated. Money what are we looking at with college football. It seemed like almost half the good teams were postponed this week. Yeah no that's the second week really in a row. Actually percentage of postponed games keeps going up. This is like we four in a row where we've had a steadily increasing number of games postponed. And you know we've already had to postpone for this thanksgiving week here so it's going to keep happening. I mean it's you know this is what happens is you. Try to drag this mess of a season to the finish line. You just have more and more places where it just like the rest of the country virus numbers are up. And you know a lot of this is contact tracing for people who've been around others who have tested positive but you know that's responsible way to handle it if you contact tracing have eighteen guys that are caught up in it will or you're probably not gonna play this week and You know college. Football is the conferences are doggedly determined to get their tv inventory. Get their number of games up so they can get checks from the tv networks for almost a full season so that's really the course year. The question is a you know. How many how far can they make it and we get to the actual end of the season. I think we'll probably can. How many games are people are gonna play. I don't know and then how do the players feel about this. I keep coming back to that. You know. I mean if if the athletic directors are going to be honest tony they still in the locker room and say look you all their tv inventory and we need you because that's what's going on. That's what's about. you is young man. It is bill our pockets with the usual amount of cash to run the department. And so we need you to play in these games that you really not may may not care that much about you. Have college kids right. You have college kids. who are athletes. They are not athletes on the level of bringing in money the way football players. But what do they say about their campuses. And what do they say about pushing football like this. Yeah well it's interesting actually. My my son had georgia's finished He's getting his masters degree now. So he's he's not practicing her involved You know georgia's situation is very different than stanford where my daughter is and You know stanford is such lockdown and has been the entire time there are no in person classes. There is nobody really on campus other than workout. Like she goes to the pool. She swims. she goes away room and she goes back to her house. And that is They have had been able to have to swim meets. They they i mean but they're both against california where you just get on a bus and over the counter. The towel comes to do It is been extremely extremely limited. I you know. I think that they look at the football situation like well. If that's what they've gotta do fine You know i don't. I think that you know. Obviously my daughter stanford they wanna swim. They want to compete. They want to practice. But i think they're also very understanding that the things have been extremely extremely limited in terms of what they can do. Because that's the way it is. That's not a money producing sport in the way that football's a money producing sport and these kids become lab rats. When they go out there we're going to have a college football playoff. I don't know how it's going to go in the time period. They wanted to go. Are you more of a believer than i am. And that you know. I i just think given what we've seen. There is a strong wheel to get there to have a playoff inhabit. Right on schedule and on time so by. Golly you know what we're putting on a show or gonna put on the cell. We'll see how many people can play. But i think that that there is a dog determination to have one so. Yeah i think we will I it's interesting one thing. I did pick up a couple of weeks ago. You know most of the schools if not all the schools in the playoff. We'll be east of the mississippi river and as usual there will probably be a collection either in the in the south. They don't really really want to go to the rose bowl they don't wanna get on a plane and flaw the way to los angeles for a game that say you know clemson and alabama could plant atlanta I don't think that the they'll be able to overturn the college football playoff structure. But there's you know for once in the history of college football. Nobody wants to go to the rose bowl. What about college basketball will it happen. What does that mean. They're starting on wednesday and there like nine million games scheduled that day like starting from and tone to a And they've got these big events in the mohegan sun and elsewhere and it's like why why didn't you just push everything to january conference these in the answer of course. Tv revenue tv. Yeah and i think they look and say well the nba not playing. Here's a chance for people to watch us. And while i understand that desire. I'm not sure it fits with the reality of the situation. And i think if you've talked to people like around college basketball coaches administrators players like. There's no way we're getting half. These games played. And i think it's just gonna be. We will be absolutely numb to the news of postponements and cancellations in basketball within just a few weeks. I mean i understand that. Rick pitino to a lot of people as persona non grata. That doesn't mean what he said is wrong. He's one hundred percent. Right isn't he. What am i doing yeah. I think that there could be a lot of merit to what he sang You know. I think starting a season right now is incredibly problematic and difficult and that it would have been better to at the very least. A scaled-down season starts in january. Maybe it's still ends in march but maybe you extend it and play more demet. Okay i mean. I would be open to at least exploring that but starting now It's got it's going to be really difficult. I mean scott. Drew is the coach at baylor. They're you know the one two three in the rankings depending lankans. You're looking at coaching their first games. He's got the virus and you could go on on on schools that are dropping out players that have it coaches that have it games. That aren't going to be played and that is just going to be a daily theme in a sport where they are trying to play hundreds and hundreds of games amazing. We'll get back to you on this. I'm sure very frequently. Thank you pat. All right my pleasure tony. Thank you pat. Forty sports illustrated. I- what it's the pros are different than college. It's just different. They didn't sign up to make money in the same way. We'll take a break. We will have email and a jingle when we return. I'm tony kornheiser. You'll listening to the tony kornheiser show. If you'd like to buy a soup define there's a place that you need if you need a new one do but you grant. It's been decline in the log onto e. k. Was the he every. Show little the skews own. You'll save a lot of send raises joe arrow. That is wonderful. He's a really good singer. It's all the no he's really really good. That's lovely night. So you wanna do the bethesda beta in my head again. Yes not you obviously very good. Yeah love them. You will as well for the location. Nearest you in the dc area just go to bethesda bagels dot com and then head on. We got the bagel sandwiches today. We're very happy you be will be as well when you head on. So nigel always song in here to see if i can identify him and now he goes the first thing i remember. I was lying in my bed. I couldn't have been more than one or two. This paul simon song and then he goes. I remember there's a radio coming from the room next door and he goes and my mother laugh the way some ladies do not mother. I wouldn't expect you to know this. It's my bubble left the way i can do. It's the grandmother. It's the way some ladies. It's late in the evening with the music seeping through. It's great song Thanks today to michael. Wilbon pat fortieth sports illustrated. Thanks our sponsors venturo and butcher box remember. You can listen to us on apple podcasts. Spotify google play radio dot com. If you get the show to i tunes please. Leave us a review from kenny ray. Fort walton beach florida. So michael needs a background photo for his peleton. Shirley sad picture of michael on ponies. Somewhere if not how about luca on horseback from sue meyer in ponte vedra beach in florida. The home sawgrass. Your discussion of michael's new fitness regimen on the peleton may be incredibly curious about his peleton. Leaderboard name nice owing on expect him to divulge it and his cycling anonymity but i did consider several possible options. I do wear white. Sailor dose starter. What the effort. We doing here me undies reader. Riding to the refugee sending new jingles. Pinehurst number two. Do you know who i am. I just hope leaderboard name is not michael. Kornheiser high five michael savage ponytail. If you see me on the peleton leaderboard. Dan fits in philadelphia. Michael sela bet golfers to for two unscrambling save other golfers nine for nine scrambling saves both are tied t one on scrambling for the rounded one hundred percent but which one is actually in i for scrambling guy who's playing well enough to only be two for two or the guy hitting all over the place but somehow gets up and down everytime nine for nine. Let's go for the two for two. I didn't know there'd be math on today's show though but you think it's the to for to think so is he's playing better given the nod. He's hitting the ball. Better from steve table in fort smith arkansas. Recently my son brought home some homework for his introductory introduction to philosophy class and he has for some help there was a bonus question which red foxes to rabbit a steel as the blank. He said he knew the answer. Had to be some form of metal weaker than steel. But which one irony asked copper aluminum. I looked at him in that loving way. Only fodder cannon. I said you're a moron. It's potato of course. It is a the potato after brief back and forth and bond hearing the source of my knowledge agreed to use that answer a few days later he called. He said that was wrong. As instructors said literally any metal would have been counted correct but sadly potato was not even an alloy. Was there for wrong even worse. His fellow students have taken a kalyan spud. And tater salad stick liberal. College professors are destroying this country from scott mcclellan in bethesda maryland. Five out of nine jaffna's happy with five out of nine versus kip ximan. I know you're an english major but that's a one win difference on the other hand i'm still paying off. Debts made on kipps. Winter forecast last year am awaiting this year's forecast from kipp but also interested to hear jeffs finale. Our new york the subaru owners. Think they're so high and mighty and care about the environment and a children's so much more than everyone else. Not so fast you hippie. Granola eating posers. If you really cared about the environment it'd be like me. You wouldn't even have a car if you really cared about your kids. You'd be like me and not actually have any kids. In order to avoid avoid overpopulation. That will inevitably destroy the environment and the earth that your children will inhabit boom. How's that logic for you. Bet they don't teach that at hotchkiss. Whatever other second rate prep school. You went to because i write. Prep school phillips exeter or at a long island public school like i did. You'd be able to afford a nicer car than a subaru. Eat it from mike. Roseberry state college pennsylvania. In the two weeks since i ratted out the peace subaru license plate. I've come to realize the real division in our country is not red state versus blue state. It subaru drivers versus those of us. Who want to see subaru drivers strung up by their to bet and boiled wool cardigan and dumped into a giant. Yeti coffee mug filled with boiling. Come buccio if i've pronounced that correctly. In your opinion what big ten school produces the most super drivers per capita i feel. It's a dead heat between michigan and northwestern williams. College has to be the national leaders. I'm pretty sure. Just put your diploma in the front seat of forest that you drive away at graduate. Shutting boden has something to say about that grows borough state college One more austin portland maine. I'd like to offer subaru drivers a reprieve and get back to what we can all come together on making fun of cilicia. I wanna walk this weekend. I saw a car with a weather cover over. it usually would know what kind of car was underneath. But the car covers. Said tesla i thought about asking if eliza has a car cover like this and uses it but we already know the answer to that. If you're out on your bike side everyone is always do wear white. Jesus am i speaking chinese. The do lamented vani. Buddy came the last exciting thing we had was the bridge on jumping up the michigan avenue bridge while the pack and aaron rodgers brett farve and bart star. We had rudy buke. Bobby douglas carter. I still have nightmares. Can can thompson. Larry rate struck. I'm waiting for payton fumble Drug dome try to comfort me. With butkus shane mack. I'm still recovering from kent. Mix and judge live. Jack walter scorns and of the fridge job. Then the michigan avenue bridge the eighty five bears like anybody cares since then we've gone nowheres. Who should have had more hardware. Surely were still. Try buddy ride. The defense was fine. Single terry was crying. I pray to my poster of luchman every night but sleep seems kind of risky. I might dream of chip bisky. Our coaches are. Qb's all one big kerfuffle. It's all been downhill since the super bowl. Shambaugh dave craig perry kramer evans. Kate mcmath tiresome in mississippi town. Last thing we cheer for was a and called the bridge up as you get an attitude. Rage nick foles latest exploit just more halis. Errative jumped ahead of michigan avenue a few Consume

tony kornheiser Jeff ma joe burrow michigan afc kansas city andy reid Philip rivers football gordon hayward twenty five percent tony aaron rodgers jason del monte raiders sean payton michael wilbon wisconsin Pat fitzgerald chuck todd
Hour 1: NBA Suspends Season

Get Up!

42:35 min | 9 months ago

Hour 1: NBA Suspends Season

"When running a business. Hr issues can kill you. Wrongful termination suits minimum wage requirements labor regulations and HR manager salaries aren't cheap an average of seventy thousand dollars a year. Bambi spelled B. A. M. B. E. was created specifically for small business. You can get a dedicated. Hr MANAGER CRAFT HR policy and maintain your compliance. All for just ninety nine dollars a month with Bambi. You can change. Hr from your biggest liability to your biggest strength. Your dedicated hr manager is available by phone email. Or realtime from on boarding determinations they customize your policies to fit your business and help you manage your employees day-to-day all for just ninety nine dollars a month month. No hidden fees. Cancel anytime. You didn't start your business because you wanted to spend time on. Hr compliance let Bambi. Help get your free. Hr Audit today go to Bambi Dot com slash. Get up right now to schedule your free. Hr AUDIT THAT'S BAMBI DOT com slash? Get up spell Bambi B. A. M. B. E. dot com slash. Get up. Good Morning. We get up together on this day in a different place last night an NBA player tested positive for the corona virus and the League shuts down no games for now. Where does it all go from here for this sport? And for all the others. There were a lot of questions this morning and we will provide as many answers as we can as we get up with you on this day and we thank you for getting up with us on. Espn and you see the group that we have here. And there'll be many more. And I'm very cognizant of the fact that for one years now one way or another you have been getting up with me and I will promise you that we will bring you the very latest on the information going around. The World of sports says this is a very different day. It started at nine thirty eastern last night. Actually it started before that. Let me take you to the events where the season was suspended between the jazz and the thunder. This game being played in Oklahoma City or scheduled to be played. That's Chris Paul. And the thunder they were scheduled to start tip was scheduled for just after eight o'clock eastern time at eight ten seconds before the ball was to be thrown in the air. You saw Chris. Paul asking the jazz bench where Rudy Go. Bear was an if he was sick over at the arena. After feeling ill and then just four minutes later this announcement was made has been postponed leaving the arena tonight and do so in an orderly fashion. Thank you for coming out tonight. We ARE ALL SAFE. Despite the understandable frustration that you heard in the initial reaction from the fans. The fans did leave in an orderly fashion. They're not seem to be any issues there and as they did with the word that Rudy Gobert had tested positive for the corona virus. The court was roped off workers spraying down seats. The thunder players were allowed to leave the arena about two hours later. It was five hours after to ten in the morning when the Utah players finally left the arena at nine thirty eastern last night the NBA released a statement quote the NBA announced that a player on the Utah. Jazz has preliminarily tested positive for Cova. Nineteen the test result was reported shortly prior to the tip off. Tonight's game between the Jazz and the Oklahoma City Thunder at Chesapeake Energy Arena. At that time tonight's game was cancelled the affected player was not in the arena the NBA is suspending game. Play following the conclusion of tonight's schedule of games until further notice the NBA will use this hiatus to determine next steps for moving forward in regard to the corona virus pandemic and we'll begin our coverage with Adrian origin. Asking and Brian. Win On tour here are NBA. Insiders will start with you. How did the League arrive at this decision? Last night well once Rudy. Gobert had tested positive. And you knew at the very least you had a team in the Utah Jazz now. That was going to have to be in self containment that you can't play schedule. And they knew that they were going to be players in other teams who had competed against him who had to be tested and just hours before Greenie. Adam had been on a conference call with the Board of Governors essentially his owners and they had largely come to a consensus that the way they would proceed would be to continue playing games. Beduso without fans. And that's what I was told that him silver was likely going to announce today but that all changed with Rudy. Go bears positive test almost immediately. Adam silver made the decision to suspend play. And that's where the League is as of this morning on hiatus and windy. You had told us yesterday here that this was the reason for removing the fans from the arena. This was the reason for keeping the media out of the locker room because they knew that once any player did test positive that this would be the result. Yeah I think the League was a little bit of denial here. We saw statements out of Cleveland. They said No. We have great air exchangers and we can purify the air. Yesterday we saw the mayor call for. No major gatherings and the wizards put out a statement. Saying no we're going to still do it but I will say the was a head on something. They advise their teams within the last week to set up procedures to get corona virus testing. We saw Steph Curry. Get the flu last week. He got a corona virus. Testing was cleared on Saturday and because those provisions were in place when Gobert tested negative influence a they were able to get him a corona virus test and they were able to get the the result back fast enough to stop the game and now one of the thing. That's going to happen in the League today. You mentioned the teams of the jazz played but the teams that the jazz played the playbook for teams the officials the entire league last night was shaken but because they were able to have those procedures in place. We now have done what we needed to do. Which is to stop playing and that is a good thing. I know it feels bad and it feels scary but it is the correct thing to do. And it's a positive thing going forward and we try and spin it forward as best. We can because we all understand that we're in an area of great unknown. But what is the League's plan from here? Well that was the question teams. Were really slamming the League office with last night and they were told. Just sit tight. Let's get through the night and we'll have some more direction for you tomorrow. The least been working on a number of contingencies. Four weeks now in the event that this happened there were plenty of teams that I talked to in the last week to ten days. Who believe that. This was going to happen that there would be a stoppage in play. That Games would be missed that it was inevitable and while the league hope that could continue and do so without fans they were prepared for this possibility. So what you're seeing now and what you're going to see is going to have to be a lot of cooperation among teams. This is a league when you just look at this from a financial standpoint. Boehner's have lost a lot of money this year based on the fractured relationship in China. And they're going to lose significantly more money and the players are GONNA LOSE MONEY. Because they share they share in the revenue. And so there's going to be a hit on all sides and so what is going to happen now in? What has already started to happen. Is I trying to get a sense that they're not going to know when they don't know today when they can start playing again? But what are the playoffs? GonNa look like. Are they going to have to move the season into the summer? Are they going to have to delay the start of next season based on when this season could possibly end those are all the conversations that are going on and they're not going to have a clear answer until until they know it is safe again to be able to players organizations back to work? I think it is safe to suggest that we're closer to the beginning of this process. Then we are the end Roach. Thank you very much Wendy. Sit Tight I have a lot more for you as we continue. But we need to get to the medical piece of this Laurel Road reported yesterday Jazz Center Rudy. Gobert tested positive for corona virus on Monday. See it right there. After speaking with the media go bare purposely. Touch reporter microphones and recorders before leaving the podium table so just to show the impact of go. Bears Positive Cova nineteen tests. The jazz have played six games in March all in different cities Cleveland New York Boston. Detroit Salt Lake City and Oklahoma City. If you factor in the teams they played and then the subsequent teams. They played all thirty teams. Have come in contact with someone who played with or against Rudy Gobert. We are joined now by Dr Jennifer Ashton who serves as the chief medical correspondent for ABC News. And let's begin Dr Ashton with the Rudy Gobert. How concerned should the NBA be about other players getting corona virus? Now that Gobert has tested positive. Well listen obviously. I'm not the medical consultant for the NBA. But I think that it is pretty common sense that not just the basketball league but any league anyone who has responsibility for thousands and thousands of people. I think are taking it seriously. I think you know one player testing positive right now to be clear you know. We expect more to be honest with you. This is a sport and an environment where there's prolonged very close contact Obviously and and by the way contact not just between players but also fans and officials and coaching staff. So we expect to see more cases as we're able to test more but I think aggressive measures that enforce basic common sense. Social distancing are really important now not just for the individual community but for broader community in our population. In general. Yeah you mentioned the fans how concerned some of the fans be that may have just given high fives to some of their favorite players in the arenas I mean I think that at this point no more concerned than they would be you know in their grocery store or in their communities environments. I think that right now. It's just important to note that for every one case you hear about there could be ten or fifty or a hundred more that you don't hear about Because we do know that this is a respiratory pathogen that appears to be highly transmissible and there are some people who will be infected. That don't even have symptoms or have such mild symptoms that they never seek medical attention and testing. So I think you know this is just an example. A high profile example of how this is spreading in this country and for people who think that you know reports have been over hyped or actions. Have been over hyped. You know in medicine and science. We always have to err on the side of caution and since we don't know a lot of history on this virus because it is so new. I think that's why you're seeing such aggressive measures being taken out of an abundance of caution. Excellent perspective Dr Jennifer Ashton chief medical correspondent for ABC News. Thanks for joining us. Thanks news spread quickly around the NBA last night while other games were in progress. That at nine thirty three eastern time was the shocked reaction of Mark Cuban after he was shown an email from the league office announcing the suspension of the regular season. Here is what Cuban and others had to say about it. This is people's lives at stake. This isn't about basketball. This isn't about the mavericks this isn't about. When do we start or do we start? Or How do we start? This is this is a pandemic global pandemic. Where people's lives were at stake in a lot. More worried about my kids. And My mom who's eighty two years old and talking to her and telling her to stay in the House then. I am about when we plan our next game. You think it's it's not gonNa Affect us where the NBA. It one of our players virus and you know who knows what that means for their team and the other teams have been with them. So you really get concerned for. Just what's going on not just here in the NBA? But the in the entire world. It's these are things that you watch movies. You know you watch a movie about this stuff and now we're living and trying to take a day by day and figure out how to how to move forward and get some clarity shows you how fragile it is here. It is a a player that is in our lead to a lot of players have come in contact with So that's a concern and that that's the prudent as wise prudent for Adam to suspend the season to get hold of and get a grasp of it. Here's some other reaction on social media. Evan Forty of the magic was just on the phone with Rudy Meaning. Gobert he is doing good man. Let's not panic everyone love you all. Lebron James tweeted man. We're cancelling sporting events. School office work. What we really need to cancel is twenty twenty dam. It's been a rough three months. God bless and stay safe Steph. Curry tweeted twenty twenty eight. I don't know what to compare the situation to. There's got to buckle up and take care of yourself from those around you basketball. We'll be back at some point but right now protect yourself and stay safe out there. Let's bring this to our table here to discuss. And we have a couple of former players here Matt Barnes and J J. I'll start with you when you saw this last night and obviously this is something that we have been talking about in the lead up to it. What was your reaction first? Off is sad for us as a society that this happened to Tom. Hanks Rita Wilson Rudy Gobert. Nba Player for us to take this whole thing very seriously. It's been happened to a lot of people have big names and it's been going on for a while secondly it. This is unprecedented for the League. And I agree with you. Two things can both be true at once. They have made provision. Nba Did make provisions and they were allowed to have that kind of care for guys extension courier to care for her to go bear to get tested but in the same breath they also drag their feet a little bit on this guys and I. I think we have to be realistic about this. The fact that they didn't have one uniform decision so you're not allowing fans to be in the building but still the players you don't know who they've been in contact with you don't know who their family members who being contact with or friends but you allow them to play at the fact that they had split decisions from different entities from the Washington Wizards from the Cleveland cavs as opposed to Golden State Golden. Say He's not playing well. The mayor of the city of San Francisco deemed them eligible to play so I kind of think that's somewhat of a reflection on the league civil a lot of room to go adam silver just to make a uniform decision from the beginning about this should have been nipped in the bud from the beginning guys. I think the fact that the only positives to pick off Jay said about Rudy Gobert or Rita Wilson and. Tom Hanks having it is now that we're going to have people of some sort of stature. It'll be monitored so we're going to be able to see how serious their their symptoms are in the prostate. Recover or how okay. Well if we handle it. Abc You should be okay so like. I said the fact that they're celebrities that have it. I think it'll be closely monitored or we're going to be able to get a real scale of how serious diseases you had told us yesterday. Matt that we're right up to you. As a player he would prefer to suspend games and then play them an empty arena. I just thought we needed to take a step back and really find out more information about this. This is unprecedented territory. You know. We're in uncharted waters right now and this is something that's never been done so as we've been reporting essay. China took certain route. You know we needed to just take a step back. Sports is not the end all be all we need to take a step back and really figure out what we're dealing with you guys just as a player at least you were incentivize. You can make millions of dollars when I look at the. Ncaa tournament all right. You're still working out name image and likeness state-by-state. Let me just say. Let me get a piece of advice to the NC Double A. Thank you Brian and the players championship but everybody else don't be late be early yes shut it down. That is what absolutely has to happen. There is not negotiation. I don't even know what they're waiting for. Shut it down the game was I hear. And they're fortunate and some something else the league's Deta gratitude to mark Cuban because that was a billionaire. Who'S A team owner? Who was willing to come out in front of the cameras and be a voice of the league last night and not only did he say that you need to take care of the players and the family he's going to take care of the arena workers. That was a billionaire. Say you take care of the arena. Workers Mark Cuban. So while you're right I do think the NBA was a little bit sluggish in Cuban. I assume was on that call yesterday where they were the decisions and the fact that he was still shocked says where the where the where their head space was but he is now moving forward. I agree we need to move forward with the rest of the sports too. Yeah so we're GONNA get to the NCAA momentarily but China does have a blueprint for this and they did suspend their best basketball operations what can the US in the NBA take from and realize it's not apples to apples. China the very different but all I can say this China Shut Down Their Basketball Association. The CBA in middle January. They've been down for ten weeks. They are now calling their players back after ten weeks and hoping to play in early April. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. That is our example. We'll have basketball again and the NBA has asked their teams to give their availability of their arenas through August first. We're going to have basketball. We can't focus on that right now but we're going to have it okay. You mentioned the NCWA treatment which is obviously right around the corner where in the conference championship week as we speak and the men's and women's NCWA tournaments are both scheduled to begin next week and at this Point Conference Championship Games will continue but many of them will be played without fans yesterday afternoon the NC double a. announced that both the men's and women's tournament will also be played without fans in the arena. And W president. Marc Emmers released this statement quote while I understand how disappointing this is for all fans of our sports. My decision is based on the current understanding of how covert one thousand nine is progressing in the United States and the decision is in the best interest of public health including that of coaches administrators fans and most importantly our student athletes. Here's some more reaction from some of the coaches beginning with Roy Williams. This is a scary time period. But I don't want to try to get in and evaluate. What should be done with the with the College Basketball Hall again? We have very intelligent people. That'll make the right decision. This is unbelievable. Interesting Times as we move forward but again I go back kids. Just they love to play and they love to compete and I think they'll really play their backsides off. Even though it'll be echo and in their tomorrow you played again when you're young because you love the game coach game because you love the game you don't get into the game to play it because other people are going to be watching you so so that's not why you get into a play. Of course the older you get in the more the more the more prevalent that is to you that becomes part of we need to get back to our our child routes and play with the same enthusiasm that we would if we're playing shirts and skins in the park like we used to. You should see this moment by the way. It was a scary one last night at the big ten tournament. Nebraska's coach Fred. Hoiberg visibly ill on the bench. During his team's game against Indiana. He would leave the bench with four minutes left and was taken to a local hospital where he was diagnosed with influenza. That is the flu or bird has been released from the hospital and return to the team hotel. All of that is according to a statement released by the university. So that's where we stand again the men's and women's NCWA tournaments both begin next week. J You touched on it but the floor here. What are your thoughts? We have to have a big picture perspective here and not be narrow minded not think short term gains and when I think about the incidentally tournament I hear what Bill Self saying. And he's he's accurate. Look guys can play. You can build up my thing is. You're played a game of Basketball Guard. Bars. I'm sweating all over Barnes. He's breathing all over me and the NBA has set the precedent about what this is going to be the NCW needs to do the same. Like I said before my original point at least in the NBA. You're incentivize. You can make millions of dollars but now what you're saying is as we're still working on this name image and likeness scenario state by state. We're still trying to figure out whether that's going to happen or not. Now we're going to ask players to jeopardize their health. You're going to say well. Immediate family members or administration. I don't know where these immediate family members are ministrations or the players have been but not to jeopardize my health and play for something and I'm not getting paid for it anyway. I think it's crazy for once. We need to put the month to put the money decide. The money's always the motive in sports at the end of the day. It's about you know the bottom line and I think for once we need to put to the side and put the health the players and their families first and foremost whilst I agree with everything. Both of you have said there will be people including players. We heard from the kid at Harvard. Who will say the kids WANNA play? They want to play what you say to those people. I said that they are seventeen. Eighteen and nineteen year. Okays Kid twenty year old kids in our job. As adults people had those experiences to sit them and reason with them and help them understand the practicality of the matter and this is a rabbit virus growing very quickly and we need to think about this holistically and not just short term gain and look. Hoiberg ends up only having influenza aid but but either way that's not a great look to have an adult coach on the sideline coaching through stuff. Jay said it's tough for these kids a lot of these college because last time ever playing basketball. So you gotta understand where they're coming from the passion they WANNA play but at the same time we have to understand that this is bigger than sports right now and we knew really worried about our safety and our families. We're just getting started in our coverage of this this morning as we continue the situation in Oklahoma City seemed surreal on social media and on television as the game was postponed. What was it like inside the arena? We will ask someone who was there and then Major League baseball has some decisions to make in the days ahead as well. What steps is baseball considering to keep players and fans safe bus only will answer that question and more as we continue? You're watching get up on. Espn our coverage continues this morning on. Get up in five minutes. A game postponed just seconds before tip off. What was it like in the arena? We will go live to. Oklahoma City was Major. League baseball preparing. We will talk to buster only and then Charles Barkley will join us live in twenty minutes with his reaction to the NBA suspending. Its season all that and more as we continue. Get up on. Espn WE are back on. Get up and that's Phil Mickelson on driving range the players championship in Ponte Vedra beach. Florida is underway. The players are on the course or some of them are spectators are permitted at the event although there will not be autographs signed. We'll keep you posted on the events. Their covert nineteen of course is having a major impact on sports the NCW making headlines early yesterday announcing its decision to ban fans from its championships including the men's and women's basketball tournaments which are both set to start next week the NHL said they expect to provide an update today. While the blue jackets announced the remainder of their home games will be closed to the public baseball. The five California teams. We'll have to move home games through the end of March to meet California's recommendation. To postpone or cancel large gatherings the mariners. Meanwhile we'll move home games after Washington banned large group events in the NBA. Of course taking these significant step up suspending their season last night indefinitely after we reported that Rudy Gobert tested positive for the corona virus. It was a bizarre scene last night in Oklahoma City. The news breaking about Gobert literally seconds before tip off of game scheduled between the jazz and the thunder and the game was then postponed. Go there was not in the arena but players were sent back to the locker rooms fans were told to leave the arena at that point and again it was a very strange spectacle to say the very least. Let's bring our Royce young from Oklahoma City into the conversation. Here Roy were constantly tweeting updates about this. Throughout the night saying the jazz team buses finally left the arena around two fifteen a m eastern time. What is the latest? You can tell us about this morning. As of about at least within the Hour Greenie the the Utah. Jazz are still after hotel. It's the twenty one hotel not far from the arena here and they're basically waiting the results for the testing that they did on team and team personnel should be coming back soon or maybe they possibly even have it at this point. But they're making determinations on now how to get the team back to Salt Lake City and when they might leave Oklahoma City to do that and one of those options. I'm told from sources close to the situation is maybe taking two separate charter planes. One of them being a positive test plane for corona virus and the other being a negative test plane for Corona virus and once the team gets back to Salt Lake City that they would have hotels arranged that would be set up to quarantine the players in again a positive hotel and negative hotel but as it stands right now. The jazz are still in Oklahoma City. Trying to figure out their next steps based on what the results may indicate. We've done our best to show the video this morning in place. Some of the reaction. How would you describe what it was like in the arena last night? Well I WANNA say it was chaos panic because it really was handled quite well but if you just kind of rewind to the sequence of events greeny and and how it led to the point of the NBA season eventually getting suspended. I'm sitting there pre game watching players Warm up on the court Donovan. Mitchell warming up Danilo gallois's warming up ballboys or rebounding them. All touching the same ball passing it back and forth fans in the stands all touching this little soft. Mesh basketball shooting take turns with each other. And then you fast forward to Rudy. Gobert is questionable with an illness. Quin Snyder initially ruled him out then said that he was not. He claimed that he misheard the question and said that Gobert was still questionable. Before tip off there was confusion on that front and then thirty minutes after that. The game is postponed in shutdown. And we come to find out that Rudy. Gobert has the corona virus. So all of that kind of sequencing of events I think kind of goes to show how how many unknowns there were in the arena last night Leading up to the NBA season eventually being postponed and suspended. So you know as it stands right now. I think you're sitting there with the Utah Jazz six hours after the postponement of the game. Still in the arena. The thunder are sent home. And they're literally just a hallway away so it was. There were a lot of circumstances that were as one thunder official told me it felt like that there was. The League was caught a little bit flat footed with the situation in terms of their prep preparation very quickly. What are the reaction? Did you hear from people involved last night? Yeah I think that you know one of the things that Most people felt the situation was handled as well as it could be on the ground within the arena but again when it comes to the League's preparation you know. The the Board of Governors have their meeting at that point. Green there was just talk about Playing games with no fans. You know I'm asking Stephen Adams questions at a podium. And he's talking about how bizarre it might be to play a game with no fans and then you fast forward thirty minutes after that and now there's no NBA season to be played so a lot of people were just caught off guard and again. That's that's kind of the messaging that I was given is that people just didn't expect what was to come and again they were caught flat-footed. Sean thank you so much for this and obviously you'll continue to cover for us and we will come back to you as needed. I'll come to the table here and windy as he was talking. I saw you multiple times sort of nodding your head along. We actually did you. Bear was listed as questionable because if he had tested negative for Corona virus intended to play now whether they would have let them play a different thing. But this is why you gotTa shut down. Because here's a guy I mean Rudy feeling okay. He he's he's he's healthy. He feels healthy. That's why you can't have these guys. Continue to play a game because you have people who don't know they have it who are still playing. That's why there's got to be leadership. Shown here the I need to ask you because I'm GonNa put you into the area now of guessing and none of us know exactly where any of this is headed. But what is your best? Guess as to how this plays out in the immediate future and the days to come said the the NBA right now is dealing with an outcry from their players. Their players were very shaken last night. They gotTA deal with their staff and players. I was in contact the staff members. Who AT Games? Last night you had to go home and explain to their wives and their families what to do. They've got to deal with just the insolent right here. What's right in front of them and comfort that layer and get those people protected then they can go out and that needs to be being done at the college level in other all other places that say something. That really bothered me last night. I saw such hate that was being spewed for Rudy Gay. I mean for thirty bear on social media and needs to stop right like we all been ignorant. Everybody's May Games everybody's play games about this to a certain degree. People make jokes about it all the time like we should have been taken this a lot more seriously and this is where leadership comes into play guy so I get worried about Zach Lowe who we work with who is in close confines Rudy. Gobert worry about all the staffers. All the players like this is way bigger than just the players. It's about everybody's how if you're trump put yourself in. The position of some of the players were now what? What do you think you would be concerned with right now family? You know I'm a father. Three Little Boys. You know what I mean. So my first and foremost Concern is anything. I'm around my teammates with. I can possibly give to my kids so I think what we're taking the right steps as we mentioned yesterday that I didn't think it was important enough to take the fans away to me. We have to really just take a step back and find out exactly what we're dealing with and I think we're headed in the right direction with that game so that's the latest from the NBA. We'll continue to cover that as we go. Meanwhile other sports have to deal with this as well. Laura let's go there greeding. Switzer attention to Major League Baseball. You mentioned five minutes ago a few minutes ago. The five California teams will have to move home games to the end of March to meet California's recommendation to postpone or cancel. Large gatherings the mariners will move home games after Washington banned large group events. There are still one hundred. Eighty eight spring training games left on the schedule for more on this we bring in buster only investor. What is Major League Baseball? Considering to combat the spread of the corona virus as we approach the sort of the season. I think Major League Baseball feels like it has a little bit more time to make an informed decision for the circumstances to gain some clarity. They have a conference call scheduled with teams on Friday. We expect an update later today. All of that of course could be accelerated at the team level. There's an anticipation that Major League. Baseball soon will address these large crowd gatherings and their two options they could potentially play regular season games and empty stadiums or they could just postponed the start of the season. Thirteen Spring Training Games on the schedule today. What are some of the underlying teen concerns as they do? Consider this decision buster. Yeah and they're asking a lot of practical questions or questions of practicality they got guidelines for Major League Baseball yesterday trying to define for example non essential personnel but Major League baseball official team officials are asking questions like wait a second. We can try to keep the players safe when they're in the clubhouse but then they go out into the communities at the end of every day they talk to people they live their lives. They come back into the clubhouse are they more at risk because they gather every day. We've heard every spring about a flu going through clubhouse players essentially taking on a an illness and it affecting the whole traveling party so at the team level. They're asking. Is this a good thing to have? These players gathered together every day. Is they go through their work and have the latest from Buster Olney. How BASEBALL IS COMBATING CORONA VIRUS? We'll have more on baseball's approach and our next hour. Thanks so much for joining us. Maverick's owner Mark Cuban found out about the suspension of the NBA season seated near his bench. His thoughts on this situation coming up next as you see his reaction stunned by the news. This is get up on. Espn crispy and then there's crispy fish try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy her if you are just getting up with us this morning. News spread quickly last night around the NBA about the announcement that the League is suspending. Its Games at nine thirty three eastern. You saw the reaction there of Mark Cuban after he was shown an email from the league office announcing the suspension. Tom Rinaldi caught up with Cuban. Courtside this is crazy. I mean we're GonNa Realm of possibilities just to see more like out of a movie than Reality Trust that I mean it's really not about basketball money. I mean literally if if this thing is just exploding into the point where you know all of a sudden players and others have had it you think about your family you know you want to really make sure you're doing the right way bigger than just NBA. Hopefully we'll get to see. Don't where we talked about getting the season back on track. Dummies all got worked out rights at that. Maybe we understand more about it. And it'll be less of an issue for the entire world The Basketball Hall of Famer and TNT analysts. Charles Barkley is good enough to spend a few minutes with us on the phone this morning. Charles. We very much appreciate that. And I would just like to give you the floor. First and foremost Reuters your reaction to what we saw last night. Well number one. You guys are doing tactic job especially on the flock. 'cause this is unprecedented territory is scary. I just hope everybody's safe it's whole rudy. Gobert pain get scared because you gotta do the fantastic job with show where he's been like the last ten days. I mean they were in in five or six different states in the last week and I thank goodness. They didn't let him play that game last night. Because you know. Brian said something grief Rudy Gobert was gonNA. He was questionable. He was gonNA play last night. You had the guy who appreciated the jazz game last week. He was GonNa work the pelicans kings games last night and these guys have been around their families. They've been around their kids have been around all the workers in the locker room I I give Adamson of a lot of credit mandate. Let's shut them down and try to figure it out and I must say that. I'm probably going to get in trouble because I work for Turner and March Madness and CBS. I think the NBA the Turner Sports and CBS. Got To close down March. That McMahon. Because you can't have these players even if there's no fans diem you can't have these players breathing on each other but two weeks you are. They walking even if they had a hotel. They're GONNA be in different cities around the country and I hate to say it like I said I probably shouldn't say because I work with CBS. I think we're GONNA shut down March madness until we know more Charles. I think all of us on our set agree with that sentiment. I would like to voice. What I know would be the opposition to it. However for the sake of playing devil's advocate which would be to say you know these kids want to play in these games than it is for many of them once in a lifetime experience. What do you say to someone who would pose that to you well? I don't think that's the problem. I think that my company gotTa Bite the Bullet Greedy I. I know the kids WANNA play. But we can't have these kids like think about it Greenie. These kids are sweating breathing leaning on each other. That's gonna I mean that's crazy and even if the if you lose you go back home. You don't have you got the virus for a week or two but the problem is going to be. I think we pay a billion dollars for March madness. I think the right thing to do is for us to honor contract with. They play these games. It's really just about they don't they. WoN'T THAT BILLION DOLLAR CHECK? Let's be realistic. I think that we gotta say you know what everybody's made a lot of money. We don't have to bite the bullet because you know that billion dollars paid full a lot of sports. I think we're going have to bite the but as you know what these kids been great to us by other let's pay the NCW billions of dollars a billion dollars. But that's what we pay for March madness but that paper all the programs at the other school at these schools. But we can't we can't have these kids out there running and breathing on each other put three weeks and like I say 'cause the problem is you can't test for it right away and if you let's say you play. These things are still planned today. They can affect somebody when they go back home next week. They don't make March madness. They really have to commend. You for person in your position that you would take that stand without indomitable will that you just did. I think we have to save these kids from themselves but chuck how do you? How do you feel about this whole year? In general I mean we've had the China situation. We've had the passing of David Stern. We've had the passing of Kobe Bryant. Now we have the corona virus. It seems one hit after another for the League. Yeah you know Jay will. It's been a very difficult year with commissioned sermon. That was a good punch because I came into the lead with Commissioner Stern. He was amazing he when he was getting on my behind. He was amazing and the thing and the Kobe when that happened. Man I just cry like a baby I mean call the whatnot. Great friends but I if I felt like I lost a family member and then the losers young beautiful daughter and no seven other souls. It's been a very difficult year. And they're staying here. We're all like I WANNA take. You guys are doing amazing job. I could all I can do is watch you guys and nobody has to answer. We're we're trying to handle all these. What is on the fly but I think the best thing the best thing would like. Hey guys we have no idea what the hell is going to happen next less. Shut everything down. And let's take a deep breath because right now We can't have these players out. There affects them themselves. The referees I mean because like I say I don't I'm not like like I know anything about being a doctor but to have these big old news out there sweating known each other breathing on each other's for the next three weeks. That can't be safe in any shape or form. Charles. You'RE NOT GONNA get in trouble because you're showing leadership which is what we need from people of empower right now just because it posts gets postponed doesn't mean it's not going to be played. We're going to change the calendar here. But we're going to have to pause. We're going to be okay looking. I if you look. What'S IN CABINET KOREAN? Look what's happening in China. We're going to be okay. I would say people are going to be affected. But we're GONNA be okay. We're going to be able to get back to it but there needs to be leadership right now to mitigate the leadership that has shown in sports and in the government. But that's a different topic in sports in the next few hours can set the tone for the way this is going to go and so I commend Charles for showing leadership and I encourage others in power to show the same leadership via believe the. Go ahead go ahead. Sorry let me. Just say that Brian and you know Jay Ingredient Greenie one of the greatest things that I live is we all make a lot of it causes sports but negative thing about it is. Everybody wants to money. Air Bodies degreen. It's GonNa take tremendous courage because a lot of people make a lot of money on March madness and that the NCW has got this Alexei CBS. Do I work on? I think we should honor our deal And I'd say it's not my billion dollar check the right. I understand that but we got to look at the Big Picture. We gotTA show leadership. But like I say it's all GonNa come down to the Almighty dollar. I hate to say that. But that's just a fact and like I say I've never had a billion dollars so it's not mine to give away but listen I just think the right thing to do as a hey guys. Let's break this thing off. When you had a great point we might pick it up in a couple of weeks would march madness seasons but right now we need to take Paul let the doctors do their thing but the first thing we need to do see who all infected we. That's the thing that scared about this whole thing. Nobody really go barrel infected for twenty four hours ago. We and he's been in six seven stays the last two weeks we need to get everybody the TV now who traveled with these NBA teams and these college team. We need to take a step back guys before we do anything. We're going to test every single player in college and Pros. And then then we'll get back to you on what's next nick. Madness sounds just as good as march. I can't tell you how much we all appreciate your doing this this morning very much. Be well and we will see you soon guys. This is unprecedented territory. Good luck thank. You love your brother Charles. Barkley with US AGAIN. A remarkable and yes and he said it's not his check to write a check to write and all the rest of that. I do think that rather I think. Maybe the thing that I would agree the most with if I could give my quick thought here. Is that just stopping? Everything for a moment and taking breath is much easier to postponing postponed. Things than it is to cancel them. You can always cancel something later so I think if everyone just sort of steps back takes breath see where everything goes so much has changed in. The last forty eight hours knows where? We'll be forty eight hours. We're going to be okay. I agree I do. We need to recalibrate what our protocol is for reporters at travel with teams and things of that sort. We need to get more testing. I in place to do so I was just being told here. We will have mark Cuban live and a half hour. Okay so mark. Cuban live at nine thirty eastern time this morning. Eight thirty in Dallas so we will get the reaction of one of the NBA owners live as we continue it is an unprecedented day certainly in the NBA and in sports as we know it Rudy Gobert test positive for the corona virus the NBA has suspended its season and our coverage continues in just a moment. You're watching get up on ESPN.

NBA Rudy Gobert League Rita Wilson Rudy Gobert basketball Mark Cuban Espn Charles Barkley China Oklahoma City Brian flu Utah Jazz NCW Chris Paul baseball Utah Gobert
Andrew Gillum and how to win Florida

Campaign HQ with David Plouffe

1:08:40 hr | 9 months ago

Andrew Gillum and how to win Florida

"Now more than ever young people around the world are standing up and speaking out and inspiring us. Every day as President Brock Obama's campaign manager I saw firsthand and nothing is more powerful than young people believing deeply in something ripples of hope your guide to electing new president by me his a book for this new generation. They may not have oh yet but they do have a voice. Penna powerful one. I hope ripples of hope is the perfect way to empower and inspire young readers to get more politically involved and encourage their parents and older relatives and friends to get involved while providing some practical steps on how to do so ripples of hope your guide to electing a new president is available now wherever books are sold everybody. Welcome to campaign. Hq Wealth There could be more going on in the world I'll start with the primary race although I I think most of our attention our thoughts are with the increasing severity of the corona virus. But first of all we had another set of primaries On Tuesday another very good night of for Joe Biden Building on a super Tuesday wins. expanded his delegate lead pretty significantly and Bernie Sanders spoke About his campaign I think clearly wants to do the debate with Biden on Sunday. I'll come back to that in a minute And probably face voters at least one more Tuesday but you know there was not somebody who gave the sense that they were going to go to the mattresses Who understood the reality the delegate Math Bernie Sanders and his campaign deserve credit? Because they've been pretty clear all along. That one's a clear someone is going to be the plurality delegator of that person's going to be our nominee so and and Biden is likely to add to his delegate lead in a pretty significant way next Tuesday where we have Florida Illinois Ohio Arizona You Know Arizona might be quite competitive. I'd be surprised if Ohio and Illinois don't fall similar to what we saw in Michigan and Florida could be a seventy five twenty five eighty twenty kind of situation just giving it's is a massive amount of delegates A lot of people focused on the debate which was just announced today. It's it's no longer going to happen in Arizona may happen in Washington not with a live audience in front of Just television studio. I think the debates important first of all We need to unify the party Part of doing that will be Bernie Sanders and his campaign and supporters. Feeling good about the end of this primary of Bernie Sanders wants to compete a little bit more Think that's more than fair. And secondly you know if Joe Biden is going to be our nominee You know it'd be good to to see how he performs or two person debate And and hopefully he can show the kind of performance he showed against Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin Abaco Eight and twelve And it's an opportunity I think you know for you know Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. They disagree on some of the solutions. But you know I think they generally Diagnose THE PROBLEM. I think it's a way for them to show their advocacy for people for for trying to provide more health care to more people Try and provide a leaf on student loans again. differences in how they go about it but And those are important but but I do think it's a chance to remind people that this isn't just about beating trump. I mean there. It's not like all Joe Biden do if he's nominee or if he's president is be trump. I mean he's got things he wants to do as well really good important things They may not be the same as Bernie Sanders would do But ultimately Bernie Sanders. I think if he's not the nominee will fight as hard as you can for Joe Biden And he'll be in the US Senate and will be an important ally If Joe Biden's elected president so I wouldn't worry too much about debate. I mean Biden. Affirm owners of the moderators are gonNA pepper him with really tough questions. That's what happens. I went through this eight once. We became the the front runner against Hillary Basically she was prodding and poking us and the moderators were as well so by no be under fire. There's no question about that But rather than say. That's we don't want that. Let's just move onto the general election You know I don't think there's anything wrong with some pepper here at to use a baseball analogy because he's got get ready You know I think the other question really is how before we get to the economic and health effects of the krona vice viruses. How the situation affect the campaign includes GonNa affected and pretty profound ways. there'll be no rallies. I mean trump is sort of idiotically still suggesting he may do so soon. Even he won't so you know you can't go to big rallies You know door to door. Contact May Be for a while anyway Harder to do so I think for all of us. Want to make our plan for the general election You know we still have phones. We still have laptops. He's twelve postcards And we gotTA figure out. What are we going to do And that's you know. My book came out last week. I want to thank all of you who've Who PURCHASE IT and spend some time with a citizens guide to beating Donald Trump. If you haven't yet checked it out I'd encourage you to do so but now's the time for us to make our plan. What is your personal planet? Engagement I've been in battleground states all week. last week. And it's really exciting to spend time with people who are GONNA be Really at the front and center this debate. I was in Madison Wisconsin Yesterday and and point I make is There's people all over the world not just America who are counting on folks in Wisconsin To get US across the finish line so if you live in a battleground state. What's your personal plan for action? Can you be a precinct leader? Can you spend more time? And if you don't live in a battleground state there's enormous amount you can do To affect the presidential election and clearly local races so that kind of activism is important and we can spend some time now when we may have a little bit more time. thinking about that You know I think in terms of of you know how trump's handling nece which You know there's going to be economic impacts. Unfortunately there's probably going to be continued a health impacts probably way understanding that because they've been a disaster in terms of the tests you see countries all over the world doing drive through testing and testing a lot of people. And here's the United States of America just woefully under performing. It's pathetic and inexcusable But but aside from you know do we go into a recession and if so how long how? Many people are affected by this from a health standpoint. There's huge societal impacts is as the nature of school and work changes We see sporting events All over the world be crowd events. Changing this is going to be one of the more significant things we've gone through the country But at the end of the day trump's going to be graded most I think Importantly by his performance And I think it's fair to say he'd get an F. that may be Jen Agenda. So far He looks stable. He looks unsteady. He looks like a narcissist. It's clear he's he's worried about this less for our purposes as a country or citizens than his own political future he continues to suggest that this is less serious than it is. He seemed quite frankly annoyed by the whole thing because it is going to make him work. Carter and I think he's worried about his reelection so I think it's an opportunity for You Know Joe Biden gave a speech today very strong speech. I think that type of speech that people would like to see from a president because no matter your party When something really bad is happening you know to your country. Your your state or your city you want the executive in charge to handle it kind of regardless of the politics and just be on top of it and make good decisions and share information and be transparent And you know. Trump is doing the opposite of that. So that's the other reason I think what if it is clear that the delegate situation is is insurmountable for Bernie Sanders Really after next Tuesday I think will be advantaged by having one voice in our Party and in this case that would be Joe Biden Talking to the American people about what he would be doing how he would handle this. Where trump is falling down. I went through this in two thousand and eight with the economic crisis. You know really in the last six weeks of that campaign. It wasn't like Iraq wasn't still import in healthcare but people were really taking the measurable and McCain about. Who could I trust to handle this crisis? That was clearly going to be with the country for a long time and I think a lot of voters are gonna be doing that as well. I think Biden has an advantage in this standpoint. Because he's seen as a you know he's been in Washington a long time he was the vice president Obama was newer. Figure so in many respects Biden should be more advantage. Maybe in those comparisons But I think it's GonNa be fascinating to trump because he clearly It feels like a cornered. Animal Is acting out on. It's probably the worst Oval Office address in history the country which is saying something So it'll be interesting to see if he tries to do a Redo but You know more important house can affect all of us in our economy and our health care system But you know for those of us that You know worry about our country's ability Whether it's hospital bed shortages or the right relief packages for folks who may be harmed economically Trump is clearly not giving us confidence so doesn't mean that that means he's going to be easier to beat because seven or eight months from now is a long time but you know this is the first time. I think his rhetoric and the reality distortion field. He and Fox and others tried to create is bumping up against reality And I think that's an unkind Comparison so Really excited about our guest. Today we're going to spend time with Andrew Gillum former mayor of Tallahassee. Florida almost governor Florida. Who ran such inspiring Race LOST BY POINT. Four percent of the vote And you know Really remarkable despite that tough loss and how brutal and bitter was You know he decided to start an organization called Florida Florida Action Working on Voter Registration Organization building in Florida and sticking with understanding that know to to to turn Florida to a state. We're winning more races. We haven't had a Florida governor generation For instance We haven't had the Florida legislature in a long time Much less. You know making it easier to win. Florida's twenty nine electoral votes. That that was going to be hard work and it wasn't going to be the work of just one campaign or one cycle or maybe even one decade So Andrews really put his shoulder the wheel and and they're really doing great work in Florida so eager to have a conversation about that work about how he sees the state of Florida in the general election. There's a big debate in our Party about whether we should contest it my presumption is. Andrew's agree with me that we have no choice but to try contest Florida. He narrowly lost it. Bill Nelson we lost it. Hillary narrowly lost it. Brock Obama narrowly won it twice It's always close And there's enough numbers down there if we smart work to win but we'll see what he says about that. I WanNa talk to him as a as a former mayor Who had to deal with? Crisis in disaster management His assessment of this situation in terms of how the trump administration is handling or mishandling it. But also some of the aspects of the corona virus in the state of Florida. So I hope you enjoy this conversation with Andrew Gilligan Andrew Gillum Thanks for being on campaign. Hq. Thank you for having me. Good brother well listen There's so much I wanNA talk to you about And we'RE GONNA hurt out Florida politics but I want to start your former mayor of a a pretty darn important city. Tallahassee large city in Florida. Obviously where the state capital resides Center of the both politics And and so important from an economic standpoint And you just know you know Running for governor of the state so well so as you reflect. Obviously we're all very concerned on the most importantly the health aspects of this and and and welcome your thoughts there but as you look at what could happen to the economy in Florida Con Where does where does that? Take you yeah you know this is? This is a really tough one for the state of Florida and I don't believe that we have really begun to feel the death of the impact That corona virus is going to have on the state on the State of Florida. I mean tourism is our in his out bread and butter people. Choose Florida to get away to escape. to bring their families. I mean this was going to be a pretty big week. Not as this week but but but the succeeding weeks Over the next month or so thanks to spring break activity Hotels Are being you know hugely impacted by the decline of folks coming into the state. Obviously no we. We know about the airline industry but specific to the State of Florida in the full Florida's economy. The the budget for twenty twenty one is right now being debated they are close to a final vote on that budget and that budget will not have absorbed The economic shock that is likely to hit The State of Florida The impacts of that economic shock will likely be felt. Frankly in the two budgets that will come after this And I'm not I'm not envious of the legislature for what they're gonNA have to figure out. I mean local businesses Obviously we're hearing down here if the people aren't necessarily in hotels and they're not necessarily in the state of Florida On vacation but they are buying up a ton of hand. Sanitizer To the point that you know we've got friends who we're calling out of state in less dense states saying hey can you ship us some But but but they're going to be some serious economic consequences in as you know David Following soon behind economic consequences are political consequences Twenty twenty is going to be an important Going to be an important Year for elections in Florida. Will I in my guestimation continue to play a pivotal role? And so it's going to be a my my my well wishes go out to small businesses. In this state it goes out to the industries that rely so heavily On the Florida workforce to include the cruise industry And I understand you know from Vice President Biden Speech. Obviously the president saying for some time. Some some relief for those folks I will tell you I do hope that right. Alongside that relief for companies comes relief for individuals comes released for people and Senator is working folks hourly wage folks. If you're sick you don't have to come to work but if you got to worry about paying your bills keeping your lights on putting food on the table I it doesn't matter. Most of those folks are likely going to want to have to show up to work not because they want to but because they have to make ends meet so my my hope is if there is a bail out if there is easing. Your there is stimulus coming I hope that that stimulus puts first and foremost front and center the impact that these viruses having on everyday people right well we'll see so far. Mcconnell and trump consider things like you're talking about to be ideological wishlist necessities for human survival so but but I- grenade if anybody can get it done Nancy Pelosi can so I'm curious Obviously giving your population down there You have a lot of elderly out of retirees Florida as a state has not been hit as hard yet. We're we're talking Thursday. Afternoon is some other places but you know estimates are this is going to spread throughout the entire population so you know what extra precautions need to be taken in Florida. Do you think. Yeah Well David. I think we're both being a bit optimistic about whether or not Florida has been been hit yet. I think it probably remains to be reported for at frankly because of the lack of testing that has been You know slow to roll out but Florida has the second highest concentration of sixty five and older folks Were behind main And obviously that has something to do with you know density per capita but before us. That is a huge part of of the state's population the the bottom three counties You think of places like the villages Ponte Vedra Sarasota These are areas that we're going to have to pay really really close attention to if if we're going to be a policy around preemptive testing Even may be sure to symptoms the first place I would go to would be too many of the senior facilities nursing homes senior housing facilities and testing the workers the employees who tend to be younger where they may not exhibit Th the signs of having corona virus but could be passing the virus around. I'm not wishing bad things on anybody. I'm simply saying that these are going to be places that we're GONNA have to pay particular attention to the other thing David that I'm that I'm I'm hoping that in these places they're taking additional layers of precautions around who is coming into these facilities how well protected They are when they enter these facilities. How protected the seniors Who ARE LIVING IN. Many of these places are and I cannot leave out the vulnerable. We're talking about elderly folks. Many of which are are are older men and women of color who are living in trailer parks are living in apartment. Complexes are living in government subsidized housing. That may not be and one of these centers but sit at the most vulnerable part of our state and of our population. What is going to be the effort to ensure that we're making regular visitations on these folks. What role do social organizations like meals on wheels In others play and making sure that there's a healthy reporting back to Medical entities if they come across instances where you know using Johnson as out on the porch or she answers the door. Now you're having to leave the meals on the door inside of a a cooler while to me. We WanNa go a little bit further to make sure that those folks are okay. I'd liken it to Katrina in the sense that There were folks that were told to leave the city to get out. But if you can't afford to get out if you don't have a way to get a ticket on a bus so you don't have a car that you can gas up to get out of somewhere you can't leave. You just have to ride it out and so I'm thinking about these families that that are just going to have to ride it out where they are that are not under the normal watchful eye of health care workers Who May who may suffer where they suffer way where they live and so our state is going to have to to to juggle with that balance that and ensure that as much attention as we are paying to the Facilities these well known on a nursing homes and senior facilities that were also paying attention to indigent people who may not be able to afford to live in those places But right now. We're taking a resonance in trailer parks and homes and apartment complexes mixed them with the rice with general population. Well it's such an important and terrifying point quite frankly When you really think about the scale of how complex this is well. Let's get to crisis management. So I think folks who who who. Maybe don't follow politics that close. You've never worked in government you know. Sometimes they can think all of you are the same right. It's like legislators executives and I always tell people listen we have some great city councillors in state legislatures and members of Congress. But you know at the end of the day When a crisis hits you know they can posture. They can position but a mayor governor president. You have no option but to drop everything and you know. Put Your own politics aside your own party side and just deliver this so I'm interested And and I know that you're a democrat. I'm a Democrat But I think you probably have some unique observations about how the administration is handling this or mishandling this just kind of crisis management one. Oh one yeah. The first thing is is is critically important. I think we saw a pretty well exhibited By Joe Biden today That that that you give people the information. The honest truthful unmitigated information. You'd be amazing. The resilience of the American people that we can face facts that we can comprehend. Comprehend those facts and then make the decisions that are going to be in the best interest of ourselves and our families but when you got a mixed message coming from the president versus what is coming from the vice president versus what is coming from the task force. it leaves a lot of people wondering what's honest. What's true what advice should? I actually follow And I gotta put a plug in here for The role that municipalities. Play here because a lot of people think you gotta looked only to Washington. Dc FOR GUIDANCE. A response and while we want guidance and we won't clear guidance and more than anything we want re- sources To flow from Washington DC down to the states and then down to the municipalities. It's it's you know. Florida is is is is a state of sixty seven counties. You're talking about sixty seven different emergency operations centers That may need to be stood up with fire police. Ems Social Services Safety Net In that network a human services organizations your parks and recreations department. Your School Board I. As mayor of Tallahassee was mayor doing to hurricanes these are two hurricanes in thirty years and they came back to back we operated the the the EEOC Bhatt in a wealth of local resources of people who knew where The the more indigent people were in our community who were not right now being caught up and taking care of in the Social Safety Net. We knew where to dispatch resources. We create a comfort centers inside libraries and other public places and got utilities to them. So that people frankly weren't dying of heat frustration. We saw that down in Broward County if you hurricanes ago where people were literally died in nursing homes for lack of air conditioning for lack of of of of power so so those decisions many of them are being made by your mayor. City Councilmen County administrators. Your emergency operations officials and in with those folks are going to want to hear from. Washington is some clear guidance win. Can we get tests? Who can be tested How is the private testing system? Porting that information back into the CDC so that we can get a real handle on. How present This virus might be in our respective communities A few that I have is that we don't really know I heard the thousand cases and I gotTa Tell You I and the wealthy. They shouldn't all were where people are able to travel where people are able to take trips. Vacations spent times in hotels And travel the world. I'm finding it very difficult to believe that that is the the the the the the the total capturing of what the picture looks like in this country and so it would. It would not scare me to hear the president come out in his own words. Say Look this is going to get worse before it gets better but we can get through. This and here is our plan. This is this is our triaging and this is what the long term picture looks like for this country over the next year As we sort this out we can look to Wuhan. In the fact that president she went and visited. Wuhan gives a good sign of confidence that after the steps that they took They have now begun to get some control over but but but again to hear. Administration officials are talking to both sides of mouths. That's a that's a very difficult thing. The only thing I would say on this coordination piece is I am really concerned about the capacity of our hospitals and our clinics particularly in a state like Florida where twenty three percent of the people here are sixty five and older will overwhelm that system. Do we need to be thinking about? The construction of other facilities with these individuals will be able to be treated we'll be able to be maintained and and and again Because not enough information is being shared right now. I do wonder how well we're doing that kind of planning right. It's your that's when we saw a cianos able to do kind of almost overnight on new yes so I'm curious you know obviously is former mayor of Tallahassee. You probably talk to a lot of people in that community across Florida when you just listening to you about Kind of the three different pieces of information inconsistent information Are you hearing that from folks on the ground in Florida? I mean is that as the People's anxiety it's it's totally adding people's anxiety and and you know what it also is doing is is causing cities to take their own actions based off of information that they have access to and who they believe and are making decisions like closing down school districts Close you know. Taking precautionary steps that frankly may not be informed by science may not be informed by the picture on the ground only because as citizens see things being projected out of New York or they see what's happening out of Washington state citizens start to get to get concerned and say well. Why are we doing that? Shouldn't we doing that? Is Our mayor laying down on the job as our YOSI NOT UP AN OPERATION. Because we're not ready and so sometimes it forces a bit of a not a competition because it's not that but but but what you find is comparisons being made between how other communities are responding to this a virus citizens seeing that because we now live in a pretty democratize society and when it comes to access to information so what happens in. Washington state is as president there as it is present in Pensacola Florida By way of news and so the citizens start to drive a little bit of this. And then you'll have unfortunate when when governments don't access to don't have access to really good information really good data and a really good plan. You'll find them making these decisions. Which by all means they're well intentioned they don't want this thing to spread they wanna be seen as taking care of their citizens but sometimes those decisions may not be in the best interest of their community and may not be informed by really any real evidence to suggest that those are the steps that they should be taking. And that's that's that's one of the real. That's one of the real harms when you have a multitude of messages conception that there's not a real plan is that you get this competition between places to sort of outdo the other as it relates to precautionary steps. Which again may not be necessitated by the science by the data or by the plan so before Joma politics which may seem small compared to this crisis but we do have an important election in front of us. Want to ask you Obviously Florida As you know Brutally well given how close your governor's race was is a competitive political state. We're not talking about a state that is read seventy thirty but you know probably just given the age of conservative down there over index on Fox News. And I'm just curious as you talk to people in Florida. How concerned are you about that? Which there seems to be you know a pretty healthy percentage of our country that may not be taking the proper precautions because they're being told by Fox and that entire megaphone On the right that you know this is kind of blown out of proportion. Yeah you know. And that that's the debt is the real hazard When everything is seeing strictly through the Political Lynn's this is actually a moment where the president can Marshall Democrats and Republicans and everything in between toward a common universal nationalistic goal which is to get control of this current health care crisis have a plan and then enlist every single American to do their respective part so when you have the CD and the Task Force come out and Dr particularly come out and say You know it's not good to gather enlarge places and venues but yet you have the president later on that same day announce several more rallies. Now my guess is that this situation will continue to change and he'll probably have to readjust on that but but just given the shot shadow of hearing that advice at the podium from the task force and then having that contradicted but I suppose I shake in Dana shake hands a modicum. Continue to do this. Matt Gaetz Congressman here from Florida. Making a mockery by by putting on the gas masks and going down to the will of the United States Congress as a way to make fun of of of of this as some overblown situation only to find that the earliest deaths in Florida from the corona virus have been in his occurred in his own district right and so I'm not putting blood on his hands. I'm simply saying that that your office and the responsibility of your office requires you to rise to a different level. You have to meet the times and the Times that we now find ourselves is a place of deep insecurity by most Americans. They want to be able to look to their leaders. Trust them trust the words that come out of their mouth understand the instructions and then take their leave from there and unfortunately not only do you have members of Congress acting out in the president acting out there now is a major echo chamber You know known as Fox News. That again is given far too much weight to this idea that this is some democratic hoax to undermine the president's reelection bid you know something's can be above politics. I'm not pollyannaish to say that politics has nothing to do with this but by all means when it comes to saving and protecting lives of Americans by God said it to the side and focus on being president of all of the United States. And this does this. This disease seems to be indiscriminate when it comes Democrats Republicans independents it. May it knows no party affiliation and so I disagree vehemently with the president across a whole range of public policy issues. But I'm actually praying for some success With this president when it comes to frankly demonstrating the leadership that his office requires to help. Guide this nation through Through this challenge literally lives hang in the balance. He seems to be most concentrated on the economics that hang in the balance but lives are the ones that hang in the balance and I think that the economics is largely driven by the fact that people don't believe that this man knows what he's talking about. They don't trust that he actually has a plan to deal with this his press conference or or or speech last night probably raise more concerns than it settled them For for for most people and so. This is an opportunity for presidential leadership. This is an opportunity for us in a bipartisan way. To say look we've not faced anything like this but we will get through it but we're not going to get through it without taking the appropriate steps to keep you your family your neighbors safe and inevitably the country safe by having done so man. I wish you were elected Governor Florida Andrew. Listening and millions of people down. So let's if it's okay with you. Actually I'm not. I don't want to ask you about the primary because I think you know Biden's headed to a big win down there and probably a big delegate when I do okay with you. Can we jump to the general? Yeah of course okay. So start with a simple question. Do you think Florida should be one of the core battleground states for nominee and the presidential without a doubt any conversation that takes Florida out of the mix of being a battleground if not the battleground? State is a miscalculation it is misinformed and it potentially allows the trump campaign to reallocate significant resources to states like Michigan Wisconsin Arizona Ohio even even though we know that you know moved a little bit further out of our reach it. It allows them to put Money that would otherwise go into the third largest into these other states when they draw the conclusion that Democrats are not seriously competing. And let me just try to make the quick case which is simply say? Florida is a one percent state. You know a better than you know a better than most Davor. Barack Obama won this state twice by one point Donald Trump won the state by a little bit more than point. We know what happened with Al Gore and five thirty seven and the last twenty in the last twenty four years. The last five races for governor have been decided by less than one point and in my case by point four percent out of eight and a half million people voting which by the way was up from an estimate of six point. One million people voting. We came near presidential level turnout in the two thousand eighteen a race and my race came down to just thirty thousand votes difference now. The president understands what's at stake so I just because I violently agree with you. You know we see Virginia's now probably dark blue state right Iowa. We want it twice with Obama now going to be harder presidential service shifts but the one constant is Florida. So I guess my question to you and and your point of the core battlegrounds last time In the Clinton trump race you know Florida did have the biggest turnout increase. It was over eleven percent. And that's a state where Hillary got I think two hundred fifty thousand more votes than we did But trump you know identified about four hundred and fifty thousand more that's So I think some people think well it's crazy to think because he's a resident but you know because you know is. Is this just a place where he's going to blow out turnout so much play the piano but why is it because when you go through those statistics the it could not be more close and we'll get to your work in a minute which I think is super important in terms of this? Why do you think people you know they'll even say will Arizona North Carolina for sure and folks aren't sure Florida? I know it's big inexpensive. But why do you think that is because your race bound Nelson's Race Hillary's are two races? You mentioned all the governor raises. I mean they literally are on the margin. So why do you think people are so skittish about saying? We're all in for these twenty nine electoral votes. Well I won't disqualify where you say which is big and expensive as being one right. They think they can take those money that money. Put it in. Put it in a in a blue wall and basically get a bigger bigger bang for their buck. Listen Wisconsin's got what tens of thousands more working class High school educated or under White Folks there and it looks like they're working hard to get those folks in gays on the on the on the trump side and not trying to take it out but I'm simply saying is not like we're dealing you know I it's not like we're dealing with a force that is going to be stagnant on the right. The force on the other side will be immense. They know the scale of the challenge and more importantly what they know about. Florida is that the president cannot be reelected without the State of Florida's twenty nine electoral votes. That is a fact He he will not return to the White House If Florida can be moved to To to to to the blue column part of it I think is is that people do see other passed a victory. That don't include Florida which could be cheaper now. I could spend a lot of time talking. That went down Another thing I think that people confuse Florida with is they look at our Hispanic politics and they're very confused by it And I've tried to write a little bit about this. Eliminating the difference between Florida Hispanic Latino community here and the Latino Latino community from the West. We don't perform in the same way. The politics here in the state of Florida for our Latino community is as even running for governor. If I did not go into Dorel and talk first about a Guajardo one being the democratically elected president and to really reverse order calling Madero. The murderous tyrant that he is and then acknowledging a Maduro I'm sorry acknowledging. Ardo as the leader I talk to them about healthcare the economy and infrastructure and environment. Because I haven't shown that I see them I same for Nicaraguan Zanesville Colombian We have a very very very radically diverse constituency here and it's not one that we can't win it is one that. Rajin win and in fact. I think we can win and better margins but it is going to take a much more nuanced and surgical approach to those communities community to to Puerto Ricans in. I'm sorry To Hispanics and central Florida that may focus on the president throwing toilet paper in US delivering a message about respectable. Respect may not be the same message that you're going to play Inderal inderal maybe you need to talk about the fact that the president himself a power that belonged exclusively to him to extend temporary protective status for. Venezuelans he has repeatedly refused to extend. Tps that community and as a result we are experiencing record deportations in the Venezuelan community. Out of the United States largely out of the state of Florida. Talk about the fact that he plays you know as if he's a friend to exile here yet. He has more in common with strong men around the globe than than than any president in modern history and frightening probably in history so there is a case to be made here but it is not going to be the lazy route. You competed in this state. It's hard did impressively well in Miami by the way With Hispanics where a lot of people think we take you on the Cuban vote? Brian early vote and by the way the next generation. Cuban vote that we ought to be focused on. But they can't hear us if we are frankly lifting up the the the the the the Castro regime and and literacy as as something to be held and and again I shared this with the with the sanders campaign. That that the truth is that those are not comments that just get resigned to Bernie Sanders and Florida Hispanic. Radio is a huge huge piece of the communication flow from folks from Venezuela back into the United States here from Florida throughout The community in the in the in the death SPA and so it's important that we have strong democratic voices standing on the side of right so that they don't get to project the comments by one to be the policy of Democrats for all and we have to work this constituency in the way that they deserve not showing up last minute but being in that community. And you don't hate me for saying this but Rick Scott perfected that model. In a era. Where trump was throwing toilet paper at at Puerto Ricans? This is a man who made significant inroads in the Puerto Rican community throughout the I four corridor which I believe was in part responsible for the close of their race and and his ultimate success and so Mitt Latinos like blacks are not a monolith but even more so the diversity of countries of origin in relation is so intense. You have to understand that Latin American policy is American policy. I just had my fifteen year old son out with me for a few days in the book tours. We went to states like Florida and North Carolina in Pennsylvania and it was aside from just great spending that time with him. You know a reminder about this election is about their future much less so than than my generations and that's who we're fighting when I ran the Obama campaign's there were soon many people not even voting legible. Fourteen fifteen sixteen even younger. Who GOT INVOLVED? Who might go to a phone? Bank or one canvassing with their parents or pump. You know created interesting content photos and videos the way I think about it as if a family is having a conversation over dinner about the next election. And you know the mom or dad says yeah you know I saw trump today just reminds me how terribly is GonNa vote against him I want you know. Hopefully that young child and say okay. Well what are we really GONNA do about it? Like what's our plan. What's our families plan in this election and I think young people can create such a huge spark in that way. And that's why I will ripples of hope your guide to electing a new president. It's a book for this generation. They may not have a vo yet but they do have a voice So I hope it's a perfect way to get young people more interested in this election foster some great conversations around the dining room and kitchen table and on car rides and hopefully Also provide some practical steps about exactly how young people can make a difference in this election. Ripples of your guide to electing a new president is available now and you can purchase it wherever books are sold Andrew Listening to you talk about the complexity of the state and we know how large it is now expensive You know maybe akin can can make give people pause but my view on this. Is You know this is the fate of the world is at stake. I mean this is the most important election. I would argue at least eighteen sixty which is saying something and so if you've got an ability to win an electoral vote anywhere There's no excuse not to play no matter how expensive how complex. Yep You know you just talked to as you gotta run a bunch of different campaigns in Florida not one but this is a checkmate. This is twenty nine electoral votes. So you know. I hearing you say this. I hope folks who were making this decision in Philadelphia or Vermont depending on our nominee go all in elementary off so Florida. What's interesting is trump. Stole one it with less than fifty percent of the vote but it was the of all the battlegrounds. The lowest third party vote three point two percent would obviously like to see that lower. But I think you can really draw a lesson so as I mentioned. Trump did blowout turnout. Here he got up to four six. Do you think it's possible he could. He could get up to five million five one. Like what do you think the outer ranges and then we'll talk about what we need to do about it. The point is not lost on them around the importance of the state of Florida Some say he changed his residency to get away from Tisch. James and all of the case being. Open there I think it was much more sinister as a sinister political by nature but the campaign manager for the trump organ for the trump campaign right here in Florida working out of central Florida They're they're digging their stakes deep now. We didn't think this was possible in a state as the versus Florida. But they had a hyper white turnout number one two they went into the Haitian community. Donald Trump himself and two little Haiti and the Haitian community and Campaign. There Basically trying to splinter off that constituency to say we've got more in common we share religion. We share hard work right dividing patients from the rest of the black community in the state of Florida going after black men which they have already announced pretty aggressive efforts toward doing here in twenty twenty two. You know this message of what you have to lose. And now they've got woke vote which they're opening offices around around the country now now. I'm of two minds here one Do I think he's legitimately trying to win the black vote? No but what I believe. He is legitimately trying to do is reduce the margins and through suppression not just illegal former suppression which we can talk about but the idea that the other side is no better than me. Take the devil you know over the one you don't or by the way just don't vote at all that this is you know. I. It's of no consequence and the problem for that message. David and this was something you all in many ways were able to overcome because of hope and change in the historic nature of of of being the first and having Barack Obama certainly in the two thousand eight a cycle. That doesn't mean you didn't tell me they had with. Its head wins. Well they did but but but the but the part of the advantage that you had is that people wanted to be a part of the history including in the black community so an effort like that would not be as successful. But if you've got crime. Bill if you got parents just need to read more of their kids there are a couple of soundbites out there and. I don't want to do the work for them. I don't WanNa go through all of the work we're going to see. Yeah we're going to see a lot there. Yeah and what that will be intended to do is to diminish the enthusiasm there and to suppress the vote Particularly by by communities of color into go aggressively after a black man particularly on this issue of criminal justice reform which is simply a repackage watered down version of what the president tried to do but the Republicans would president Obama that is and the Republicans would obviously not let that. Let that go through. And he's doing these token things which by the way play well in the barbershop conversation. And so we can't be caught flat-footed my concern and stuff because I feel like I'm on a on a on a soapbox but important for people understand what they're GONNA do. People have to like how understand despite him mismanaging this crisis and his approval ratings. He's going to be tough to be in Florida or so people have to understand what we're up against. We'll be tough to beat and it will not just be in Florida. That this effort is undertaken. It'll be it'll it'll be the urban area Pennsylvania. It'LL BE DETROIT IT'LL BE. It'll be a Cincinnati Wisconsin it's going to be all of these urban areas where they feel like they don't have to have everybody but again in a state like Florida where we win and losing the margins one percent. You can get enough the other thing. I think he wants to signal largely to suburban white women is that he's not the creep the racists the the the the the the the horrible person that so many people believe him to be. I think in some ways it wants to say. Hey Hey I got a black friend doing things that I said. They were good people on both sides. But listen we're trying our our our our best to make sure that people of color are doing okay in this country As well and again that message is likely not going to be resonant for the overwhelming majority of black people but could it send a signal to some Suburban whites then maybe he's not as often maybe not as bad on some of the things that they would normally find repulsive that you know this time around you know. Maybe maybe he quayle's that'll put a little bit right so Before we jumped in the work you're doing and it's it's definitely connected this next question okay. Let's say there's a scenario where trump you know puts on the board? You know five one or five point two million votes because he just blows. Turn out to your point. He's GONNA find everybody who ought to have a Maga- hat on the dozen and register tournament yes somewhat similar to what Gore what Kerry faced with Bush in two thousand and four and again. I think we saw the beginnings of in Florida even though he had more of a ramshackle campaign last time. Very strong turnout. So if trump puts up those types of numbers I still believe we can win but I think you probably do so. Tell us how do we when you've talked about the complexity of the then as well and community Nicaraguan Community Haitian Cuban Puerto Rican so obviously we need to do the right type of work there to get the right kind of vote share and turn out but how do we put this together to get a win. Yes so so. So so getting five fabulous million and by the way Democrats just crossed the threshold of registering five million Democrats. Congratulations thank you for that. More than Republicans have registered in the State of Florida. And by the way you know a third of the registrants in the state of Florida are independent or no party affiliates. So we're also dealing with people who were not communicating with over the course of the primary. Most folks are not you know. Sort of Making these folks to be the important swing voters that they can be and I don't consider them to be swing voters just because their independence. I actually think that this is a constituency that Kayhan in we'll move our favor but we gotta reach out to them. We got to have the right message for them and obviously the right candidate is helpful. Here I think the swing vote and the way that we really turn up. The heat here is that we'd go after some of those folks who did not participate and I don't mean wh why Hillary got more in two thousand sixteen. There were folks who fell out of that process and largely young people people of Color emporer folks and so I also consider black men a part of it by the way I consider that part of the swing. Vote by the way and I know that's a radical redefining of how people think of a swing voter. But you know this better than than I do for. Millions of people voted around the country between twelve and sixteen. They are part of the swing vote. They weren't necessarily going to vote for Donald Trump. But could those have been our people? Could there have been our voters who sidelined us? And so I said this the other night on television Biden may be on a fast track toward the nomination. But what will get him? The nomination will not get him the Presidency. We cannot be resigned to To going at a constituency that's just tired and frustrated and annoyed by this president and think that America has lost. Its way in that. All of the founding principles of this country have come at a condo compromised by by this leader. While that may motivate some. I will tell you I think. He largely motivates the people who are going to vote anyway. We have to have a message for those people who need a reason to go and vote. And they are not going to vote on a return to the status quo that will not be a compelling message from many of those folks and I'm calling him out. They're younger people they are people of Color. They're poor folks and by the way you better talk to people about more than criminal justice reform. You better talk to them about economics. Wealth-building strategies small business ownership microlending two black women for startups and business development. The the nuance that is going to be necessary here. We'll disqualified the laziness of our campaigns. And and I would say with the exception of what I saw from you all because I remember going volunteer in South Carolina and getting a piece of paper two weeks out from from one of the offices and being on the third or fourth pass on a door and based off of the information that the people who had come before had gathered. I was able to have a much better much smarter. More intellectual and compelling conversation with voter then if if we had not hit those folks or we were hitting them at the last minute right and so so so so I think we win. A couple of ways one One I think we talked to these. These marginalized voters who we will consist since consider low propensity voters who may just find it as simple not to vote this cycle. Why because their lives felt like they didn't change from the last administration they fill unchanged into this under this administration and may say what what what the hell is a harm I'll take the devil. I know over the devil That I don't know too I think we can. There's some strategies here that we ought to be pursuing around vote by mail and Florida. We Are we are we are. We ought to be targeting. Those individuals who we have classified as unlikely voters low propensity voters and going to those individuals to solicit them to request a vote by mail. Which puts you on the vote by mail roster for two general elections vote by mail. Because it gives us a month a MUFFIN. A week to communicate with those folks see when they turn in those ballots. If they haven't turn those ballots Sin Organiz to flush that ballot out. I'm talking about Democrats. These are people who if they vote? They will vote for us. We've got to get that surgical around our Around our process and the only the less they would add is. We need to go Last year they purge something like four hundred thousand people from the voter rolls. They're they're on the role again here in Florida with the with the with the with the with the purging from the voter rolls the first folks we ought to be prioritizing on the registration side and this is something that for Florida action. The the the organization that I'm proud to share Has prioritizes a part of our work. We are pivoting from general voter registration. Which I think somebody should be doing Toward the effort of going after these folks who have been purged because I think these purge voters are probably the most promising of voter that we have out there because they've demonstrated the propensity for voting before at versus our Tessema messages. That can move them from voted. Want so I voted twice and then I fell out. Why did you fall out? How do we get you back in and then chase that ballot until their ballots shows up at the ballot box so that super smart so so let's say we do As hard as it is everything we can do to maximize vote share In in the very I'm diverse elements of the Hispanic community in Florida. And we do what you're saying which is younger. A minority disaffected. We still my question to you is. Then you've got You know suburban votes and then you know the question is Do you think we do have a race Some of trump's margin in the panhandle and other rural counties. What's what's the last piece of this. How how how? Well do we have to do in those two elements of the electorate. Yeah we gotTA lose less place it right those those counties that we are going to flip from from red to blue by any stretch of my imagination but one of the things for instance that I did in Duval County and my race for For Governor is we had to your point suburban white women who foul my opponent to be offensive to their values who started organizing and Ponte Vedra beach and Saint Augustine but the closest place. They could find you know fellow community with people who were voting for me. Were in Jacksonville. And these people work the beach community. A lot of people think it was just the black towner turn out and the most urban part of Duval County will it was that but it was also These these these suburban white women who were a tremendous part of of of of my reelection a my rather. I should say my winning Duval County which had not gone to a Democrat and a generation and the race for governor race. We gotta get back in there. Like for instance. Lawton child's right. Is that writer? I don't know if that's right. That's exactly right so so we've got to get back in there and continue to being committee. I I will tell you they. I'm hopeful from what we saw from some of these governors races Some of these special elections where we saw suburban women move at a pretty nice pace Toward Democrats electing us to elect some Democrats in places where we didn't think we would be able to win Some of those governorships. Obviously Virginia being the stand out there. But that's been years You know years of work. Let's not give up. Let's not give up on that on that on that constituents Now I have to tell you I do. Fear that what we're competing against is supremacy and use that word as as a as a word subjects to suggest racism what I use supremacy in the term when I think and I think the trump campaign didn't affective job here is that they were able to convince white women based off of their proximity to white men. They're white husbands and their wives sons It was better to have trump office for their for their for their family Goals in place in society. Maybe not for their own and so how do we talk to To to women about their own individual interest. Treat them as a sole singular constituency who you know is not going to be motivated simply because you know a of a woman candidate or or simply because they are women in fact many of these folks sort of detest that idea But but to go them on the issues that we think they care about and so for this for this part of the state. I don't write those individuals off. I think we gotta go at them. And that's part of losing less. You don't win the state of Florida by you know winning Miami Dade Broward Palm Beach. Losing this county that county in that county You win the state by giving one more vote than the network and make them from anywhere. The length and the breath of the state of Florida. Yeah even ten ten million people vote ten and a half million we gotta keep the mindset so luckily for nominee m worried to your point that you know. Just listen you talk. The complexity of winning Florida Is is really profound but it is winnable. I think we can't worry about is winnable the polls of today is what are the votes look like we can produce on the third but luckily for them. You're down there and and you know you basically lost a tough race And you decided to to redouble your efforts in Florida So talk about the work. You're doing with Ford Florida And both in relation to discussion. We just had you mentioned. You're doing some really smart work with some of the purge voters but also. Obviously you're you want people to contribute and I'd like you to talk about that. But how else can people help you? Because I think the work you're doing obviously this could be a back break for trump if we win Florida but you know for the future of our Party in our country to be more and more races could be enormously important so the microphone is your Sir. Well I try not to abuse it but but you opened it up What what what. What I will say is I had a choice to make after I lost the race for Governor. And that was to said withdrawing go do my own thing and I get. Why nominees before me have done that. Or you're at the age of forty where I don't think you know my future in this state. I don't believe it to be over I'm raising three children all five and under In the state that I was born in Miami Dade State that I love a state who that I tried it with everything I've been able to accomplish my my family. The love of them the supported them but also get teachers who pay wages. They could live on Also you know a social safety nets that caught us when we happen to you know fall and not be able to make ends me. So I'm I'M I. I know that story well because I've lived there story and and an and I reject anyone's description. That Florida is a red state. Florida is an unorganized state for the purpose of Democrats and we have not had a democratic governor and twenty four years in Tallahassee Florida. And so they have been able to build organization inside election cycle outside of election cycle immense resources which trump should say that would certainly a. Sh- put put our resources in the shadow by comparison. An even still there only winning the state by one point or in my case point four percent and so what we decided to do was when I looked at the numbers on the registration side when Obama was on the ballot in Florida and two thousand and eight Democrats had a registration advantage over. Republicans of almost seven hundred thousand more registered Democrats than Republicans was on the ballot. Just fast forward ten years later. That advantage shrank to fewer than two hundred fifty thousand right so precipitous decline in our registration. It was actually a your colleague. David Axelrod all said Andrew. You've got a challenge. There this was after the races. I didn't want to call you doing the race but I was looking at your registration numbers and God knows everybody. Who's registered doesn't vote but it certainly helps to have a couple more marbles on the table to fall off it didn't cost you the whole. Yeah and he's completely right about that. So we turned our attention to writ large raising money raising attention raising profile. I started not just Ford Florida. Which is my political committee. And I'm GonNa say a word about what we're doing there but Ford Florida Action A. C. Four to raise the necessary resources to invest in these groups that largely get ignored house a presidential elections right to invest in those people who are going to be here who have cultural competency and the communities that they're working in who cared deeply about these committees because they come from them that the staff there are being hired from them. They're leaders reflect with those communities. Look like and so. We wanted to invest in those groups. And we've continued that Frankly aside from organizing for America this is this is the that aside from that effort is probably one of the few. I remember happening and what we call quote unquote cycles non-presidential cycles where we're trying to do this kind of level of depth of organizing within our community We're also trying to get folks to again look again at Florida as an investment over time and you made this point David And setting this question up. Which is Lord have mercy? If we ever plan on flipping the third largest state in America is not gonNA happen overnight. We WanNa pull a page from Virginia. We want to double down on our effort year in year out in election cycle outside of election cycle state as well as federal elections. Doing the difficult work of democracy. We call it the difficult work of democracy. Because it's not easy and frankly as I go out and I talked to organizers in this state I try to remind them and an cheerful about this this this this example but thank God. Dr King didn't give a Rosa parks. Didn't give up. These were who were sacrificing. They were sacrificing for a country that they were not certain they would ever inherit. Do you know what it means to sacrifice something to give something to give life and livelihood for something that you don't know that you will be able to be the benefactor of. They did that and so we got. We've got a responsibility for my children with the children of this state. The future generations of the state to do that work and I think people have oversimplify Florida and basically said well the Browning of the of the State of Florida is. What's going to turn it that? That demography is destiny. It is not why because people can make the choice to stay home. And why is it not because the other side can can come up with a message? Target that message move these people emotionally and get them out even though they are screwing them left and right on the other side so we've got to recognize that as part of our of our challenge but it is an opportunity. I see it as a tremendous opportunity. Not just for what happens in twenty twenty but twenty two and twenty four and twenty six and beyond. Finally there are Sixteen House races that I won Hillary one Nelson one or came within a percent of winning that sent a Republican to the Florida House of Representatives. We are fourteen cents away from flip out his targets. Such right. Yeah yes. So we're saying you know what everybody thinks that. The presidential drives a turnout. How about this? We're GONNA FLIP IT ON. Its head less invest in these races. And I've been raising money and have given over one hundred and twenty thousand so far too These these house races in the state of Florida to signal if we compete if we're willing to fight if we put a candidate out there who expresses our vision right now we're coming within forty nine percent or we're winning them one nine legislative seats that sent a Republican to the Florida House of Representatives right. And so we have to compete on these and there's probably no more important time to do that than in the advance of cynical census and the redrawing of maps where we know we have a situation of elected officials choosing their voters rather than the voters choosing their elected officials. We're GONNA flip that on. Its head but we cannot do it by ourselves. if you're interested in learning more about what we're doing follow us at Ford Florida Action Forward NFL. Lay Handles follow me Make contributions so AC- maybe you're in a state that we're not worried about your electoral votes. But you understand the importance of the state of Florida to being pivotal to the outcome of. Who is the next president of the United States and maybe the future democracy period certainly for the next four years? Maybe then you want to say you know it instead of giving in my state I'm Orien- addition to give it in my state. I'M GONNA given the State of Florida to help these efforts. We have an ambitious goal for for for raising. But but we are. We are confident that if we do this work not only. Can we flip Florida for the President? We can flip the house. We can get control of this redistricting process where we have truly reflective districts and. We can set Florida on a pathway to being organized and producing residual democratic wins while brother. That is such a stirring call to action so for those of you that believe in the mission Andrew Gillum just laid out. I hope you'll check out him. And and the organization and help because you don't addition you know we. We've talked a couple of times. I mean the electoral college is like a chess match right. And it's almost. Check your aid if we win it. But you know you think about A Vision where you elect a Democratic governor there a navien twenty two legislature. Texas may not be right there. But it's coming right and so you think about California Texas Illinois New York Florida. Eventually Georgia. I mean just leaving aside the presidential race just that means a hugely. Larger percentage of our countries living under progressive government and the benefit to their lives is is enormous. So this couldn't be more important. I think your point that we. We can't look at election cycle to election cycle. We just got to do the hard work. And the city for work you're doing is so important at such an undernourished part of the ecosystem so really applaud you for that. Well thank you for that. David Amis alight and thank you for allowing me access to to to to this platform. This is how will change the the state if we could look at states and silos. That'd be one thing we can't afford to look at sticks in silos anymore. We're about to have a United States Senate where by and large majority of Americans are the minority of United States. Senate we have got to start fighting back and Florida is battleground. State number one. I believe to flipping so again. Join US F forward F. L. A. DOT com. We love to have your help. We love to have your voluntarism as we try to flip this state why. Andrew Gale and thank you again for being on here Thank you for the work. You're doing for your state your party your country in the world and also I just want to say what an amazing model you are You Know You. Lou Lose a tough race that looked like it may be one. You'd win And I'm sure it took a few days but for you to dust yourself off and decide you're just gonNA stick with this and not on your own behalf but on the behalf of of millions and millions of people in Florida. I just couldn't be more admiring of. Hey David not to lessen your point. My wife thinks it's my therapy. Well maybe but it's hit whatever. The rationale is a lot of people are gonNA benefit from it and That's the goal is really just a row patriotic work. So thank you Andrew Gill. I appreciate their brother. Keep lifting these up man. I appreciate you and Godspeed for all of us. What an inspiring person And I hope that was a motivating conversation with Andrew. Gillum gives me confidence that We have a chance to win Florida. I violently agree with him that we need to contest with everything. We've got as hard as it is. Complex. It is as it is as expensive as it is but the work he's doing and his passion for how important it is I think should be highly motivational so I would encourage you to check out his organization for Florida action in on. Learn more about what they're doing and if you're so inclined to help them with your time or or your financial resources And just you know hearing Andrews I think view of What it's GonNa take to one Florida Really suggested that we have no time to lose and those of you on the ground. You don't necessarily need to wait for a nominees campaign To get on the ground Start organizing now start tapping into groups like Andrew supporting but We we can't afford to lose a day And then of course you know. Listen to someone who would have been such. A great governor was such a strong Talk about how. The trump administration has mishandling this crisis And some of the really unique challenges faced in the state of Florida both economic and health wise. I think were both terrifying and fascinating so I really appreciate you being on the pot and look forward to spending time with you guys next week on campaign H Q.

Florida president Joe Biden Donald Trump President Brock Obama the Times Bernie Sanders Hillary vice president Washington Tallahassee US Arizona Wisconsin Bill Nelson David Following Florida Florida Action Washington baseball
$200,000+ In One Month! Dominick Felix & Gonzalo Corzo On How To Do Huge Numbers In One Market!

Real Estate Disruptors

1:20:37 hr | 3 months ago

$200,000+ In One Month! Dominick Felix & Gonzalo Corzo On How To Do Huge Numbers In One Market!

"Hey everybody. Thank you for joining us for today's episode. We'll say disruptor city. We have Dominic Phillix and Gonzalo Cortisol with cash cake sub and they flew from Jacksonville Florida this year how they earned two hundred thousand just last month. So the around two if this is your first time tuning in Trang founder of the offense homes APP. The only m less for market wholesale properties and on a Mission to create one hundred millionaires One question I get a lot is how to become one of the one hundred millionaires. So please allow me to answer it here. The information on this podcast alone isn't enough to become a millionaire in the next five to seven years aby take consistent action that massive action consistent action, and you will become one. So you're a nugget job in the comments below and Identify. Your biggest takeaway and focus on just after the next seven days and you'll be well on your way. If you're impatient like me you when it cut two or three years off that time that scheduled call disruptors dot com we'll see we can get you there just a little bit faster and I did create a checklist for the perfect seller appointment this script that my team uses when we. Run ourselves appointments. So if you're interested in purchasing it, please go to disruptors dot com slash checklist, and if you get value today police tag from below or shed this episode right now that we can all grow together and this is a live show. So please ask your questions for Dominic and Gonzalo to answer. Let's go. He has ready we ready man. All right. Let's just jump right into it so. Two hundred thousand last month. What what how did this happen? Do it was a super busy month You know. Gee put it really really cool. Recently, you know through our growth pattern I think last time we were here. We had just recently hit our first one, hundred, thousand dollars a month. Yeah, and it was epic was a big celebration teams. All excited. We were super frigging excited, and We hit the hundred thousand dollars a month. Right, and then the next month was just slightly under. Then the next month was just slightly over, and then it got to the point where it was consistently over an consistently in the made hundred thousand dollars range. As of late, we've been in the upper hundred, thousand dollars range and then our first month over two hundred, thousand dollars for his. Last month was two, hundred, thirty, one, thousand dollars. So which is super at big and to to think that that's just specifically just wholesaling deals you know we're not flipping were not hold hailing i. think the last time I sent you a group Hud's there was one like retail listing in it. It was a brokerage related deal but this was Like, really just Halsey, they might have been a co- wholesale deal in there or something like that. But is really all wholesale related. You know it's our lane go. Yeah, I mean it's our lane and we decided to just stick with it and not veer into other realms not that there's anything wrong with that but that's just what we're very fond of. Really intentional. So I think one of the things that the reason why it's impressive because I put in here issues one market you know and it's not that you guys aren't other markets right but you guys crushed it in just one market and I. You know we've had a lot of people come on the show and they've had some big big numbers but usually it's around like six or seven markets. So do that much in one markets? Really really impressive What would you I mean it's been about a year says guys around the show. What would you attribute is the biggest thing that puts you in that direction. So I would say. Number one is growing our our sales team, our acquisition team. and then number two is expanding our disposition team right so. The last time we were here we had One disposition sales manager. and now we have to. Sales managers. Okay last time we were here we had three acquisition managers. Now we have four acquisition managers and sales manager. that were currently training up the manage other four to manage the other four Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about the responsibilities like what does that guy responsible for? So it's funny because we especially, if it's a new role yet, it's a new role. So right now they're ten of like a fifth acquisition manager. God I. Now they're getting acclimated to our our systems, our processes they've been in sales for two decades but they're not in line with the real estate realm and wholesaling specific and this guy came from outside the industry. Correct. So I I'm just curious if I was in your acquisition team. And you've got you brought us someone outside to manage me I might be like, do you just totally looked right past me and went outside? Yeah. Did you guys have that challenge? We challenge going through right now so talk about it what's going? So the the reason why we brought them on is because and the reason why they're training right now as an acquisition manager, right? So right now their goal is to hit the same numbers acquisition managers are expected to hit. So he's not doing any sales manager responsibilities at the moment. Okay. So he's brought in to be the sales manager before he can officially take that help. He's got prove himself correct correct Gotcha and we do that. Partly because we feel like he needs to get acclimated but because we want the other guys to have that sense of respect that we. Already. Feel as their on our minds you know. But the the exactly what you're saying like Dude I've been here for six months. You know year and in a why why am I not becoming? The answer to question they ask you that the answer is you know it's it's just because you're good at closing deals doesn't mean you're good at getting other people to close the. Right. And so we wanted to bring on somebody who? Has. Experienced coaching, other sales people to reach their goals rice this Sales manager has been in. city Citibank and one of the things that kind of sold me on him was. He was responsible for coaching the the retention sales callers. The bottom twenty percent the people that were in twenty below it was his job to coach them to get them up on their numbers Gaza the other eighty percent. Yeah. Yeah. So we wanted to bring on somebody who because we? We've tried it in the past having somebody who's in the industry right. But they didn't have that managing experience got in. It's it's tough to. When you're in that group, we all you know, I'm saying we like I'm one of acquisition EST, right? We all kind of started together. We're all in this together and now I'm responsible for. Bitch and you out cuss or whatever. you know telling you your slackened right and you're my boy. been. Chitchat in talking crap about the job whatever, and now I'm responsible for your numbers. So. There was a challenge with that shirt and that makes total sense like that's one thing we see a lot We saw that an engineering and see it in sales is like you taking someone's a good engineer aim for promoting the manager. Well, they were never a good manager. So now they're just a crappy manager and and came using engineering skills anymore. Ticket sales guy you put him in the manager Okinawa's craft manager in sales up from either exactly. So we went through that hurdle once before Yup also. Where we're seeing that. The? Way To go its might not be the best way but it is the way that we're taking his brain somebody who has. Crapton of managing experience now, it makes sense acclimating them to real estate wholesale and that's why right now they're on the phones negotiating you know hit in the trenches just like everybody on the sales floor off and we think it's working well because everybody's excited when he's closing deals now you know he's got his properties and our contract and so everybody's kind of excited for him and everybody wants broken down why he has the role understands why he has the role Gotcha and we've kind of painted it in a picture where. If, we all want to see the business get to where we're pitching you guys on where we want it to be. It's going to be with. Getting out of our comfort zone and having people pull us up and so. The only way to do that is by bringing in individuals who have the skills that we don't want to take the time to learn. Yeah. Absolutely. It makes total sense. So one of the biggest challenges we see consistently in our industry is Finding and keeping acquisition guys. So you went from three to four since you know well I didn't. Out here. Last right. Is it the same three or did you replace with that three different different? Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about the how're you finding them in higher retaining them so start with finding them how you guys finding these guys right now. So, I think in most cases, it's relationships it's through people we know on it's through networking. It's through groups couple. The funny thing is to have our top sales guys We didn't. We don't do any coaching or anything anything paid right now we do a show you know every week where we just WanNa say relative to the community and talk about wholesaling because we like it and it's fun but prior to this over a year ago, we had a coaching group that we did for close to about a year and then someone in that coaching group Jus just very fond of wholesaling Just always wanted to real estate to be a part of a team or whatever, and that individual he's our top within the last couple of months he's been our top acquisition manager he came in, he joined the team and then another individual that started a wholesaling company didn't really get off on the right foot but however, you know from there, he went off on his own sales journey into other sales positions and other companies learned about our position and came then worked for us just because he was just very fond of real estate sailing and wanted to be a part of you know a group that's expanding So those are kind of our two top sales guys, and then the other individuals are people that know those guys, right. So we've done we've we do a lot of just organic interviewing and you know homebase in monster and Ziprecruiter and all that stuff, but it just seems that the people that are truly have their. Hearts in real estate specifically in wholesaling we've done better with recruiting those. Sorry about that. We've done rhetoric recruiting people that want to be a part of truly part of it rather than people that have sales experience, but don't really know what real estate is. You know I think they really liked the idea of growing with a company and building something and being a part of real estate because real estate's really attractive. So they knew or knew about you guys correct before they even apply in most cases. Yes. Gotcha and one guy brought his brother. Right. So now his brothers and acquisition manager, he's doing awesome and then part of the challenges figuring something out for the acquisition managers 'cause they. Might feel like there's a you know you you get. Every single day you're getting knows you're getting, you're getting strung along deals fall through So you're getting beat up every single day as an acquisition manager obviously, there's wins but most of the time which is getting beat up for and so it's figuring out and painting the bigger picture on what can be next. So for one of the guys like we had to figure out. They became our field manager ride going out to the properties he used to be an acquisition manager. Now, he's a field manager, right? Because he was getting to that point where like are have been closing for a year you know and I feel like I'm good at it. But I want to grow with the company I want to do more how do I How can I add value to you guys while still being a part of your group and so we had to kind of rearrange the position and now he's a he's a field closer. So he goes out to the properties takes the pictures does the inspections gets the contract sign in person? So it's also figuring stuff out when they're. Getting to that kind of cap of Hey I'm thinking I'm getting tired of this John over doubt am getting a little burnt out. You know what? What is next for me or my just to quit what's interesting about what he's saying is that you know in some cases, these people have the essence of visionaries like they want to grow in whatever position they are whether whether they want to start something on their own, but if they decided to work for us. Now. They working for us. They've been with us for a year or so they want to continue to grow and you talked about a little bit when you're talking about the sales manager Bishen, they didn't get that. Why didn't they get their? Why they growing those? You know in that aspect of it So they do want to grow and we do continue to have to talk to them and and instill faith in our process where we're going part of what? We have to tell them like is listen. This is not the only sales manager position that there's going to be like we want to build squadrons and we want to go into more markets and we wanted to grow this into being something terrific in great So just because we implemented one leadership position doesn't mean it's going to be the last leadership position. You know everyone's gotTa have patients including US because we've been eating shit for the last three years and just. Because, we're having great months right now doesn't mean we're not reinvesting where not investing into leadership roles, marketing new ideas, technology new systems, things like that like you know wholesaling people into wholesome because they want to build cash flow, they want money now right? Right. But if you're building a like a true business, you're investing real money into this stuff. It's not cheap. L. Is not cheap at all and I think that's is a very solid point as far as the. Guys are in his role tend to be entrepreneurial nature. and. That's been. One of the biggest problems is You know I know for me in many many years is. You want the traditional roles as side is you train bring someone in and you and you coach them up and is successful and now they're like, okay thanks everything. And then they go to compete against you and there's nothing wrong with that. You know like Clinton was wing, so you can't grow. But. That's just a natural path of salesperson when they come in. and. So in fact, you guys Max last time. Yeah. He was my inside sales agent. Before he left came back to to partner Oh that's awesome. So that's just something that happens all the time so. The cool thing about what you're saying just I don't want to interject really quickly because I don't know if you've ever rent a book called good to great by Jim Colin. Yeah. So I'm reading it for the fourth time now. Amazing. Blige's read read books that I'm. Pretty pretty frequently and they talk about like if you're GONNA train strong people in your company, and then you have to train them up and be ready for them to move on. You have to expect for them to move on like either GonNa grow with your they're gonNA reach their ceiling and you have to be okay with them going elsewhere at some point in time. Some of the conversations we've had with people on our team like listen if we can't build new positions quick enough for you to grow with us were totally okay. Just be straight up with US talk to us. Let's just exit strategy be comfortable for everyone. Or. Stick around, and let's just work it out to to get you to where you need. Amateur we're getting some questions here about how are you guys compensating? Acquisition, guys, you know there's all sorts of different compensation models. Yeah. We have a sick sick plan We don't compensate them. That's why they're. Yeah. So so we give the base Yep, we give a base and then we also give a bonus. Right So the basis. So we have arranged in our minds is roughly between twenty four and thirty, six, thousand, a year base salary Rai, and then the bonuses between five and seven percent we have tiered based on how well they do on the front end negotiation right. So if they do really, well, they can get as good as a seven percent of bonus by the time it closes and if they do just very close to the maximum. About the pay and we do get to close it that'll be closer to five percent of a bonus right so they're making between sixty, seventy, thousand, a year you know and if they're not hitting sixty, it's just very close to the sixty got Yeah and one thing that I I heard you mentioned reinvesting back into the business you mentioned leadership, which is the topic. I'm very passionate about So what kind of leader is investing into? Programs or what are you guys looking into? So sales manager is one of the firstly. Oh, one of the leadership positions that we have, we also have an HR manager counting individual. He's kind of an all encompassing office support person and then there's Jianye. Right. So one of the next things that we're looking at is an operations manager. and. The way that we look at sales manager versus Operation Manager is pre acquisition contract and post acquisition contract right We just had. We've had long discussions and it's kind of the way that we operate like a clear divide of what happens before the acquisition contract and what happens after the acquisition. What we try to do in our company is we try to as soon as the deal is is locked up close and it's not perfect. But as soon as this locked up in close with the acquisition EST, we try to take it off their place so they can just deal with nothing with sales in new acquisitions, right? So we have an acquisition support person we. Call. It a liaison and then g is really kind of like an operations manager to where he helps with taking that off of their place in really just pushing it over disposition side of the company. Right. So we have the sales manager for the acquisition costs and of the next leadership roles is probably GonNa be operations manager, which is can kind of be. A sales manager for the disposition side of the business. That makes sense. So you know for people that are watching a show. Yet both guys who wears white hats were you guys responsible for? Gotcha so so I'm the CEO Geez. The President Gee does a lot more of the operational side of the business G. Twenty, twenty, g twenty, twenty. So he does a lot of moving parts of both sales manager and operations manager and and I support backup Fergie as well as project management and we work together on big decisions for the company. So he's handling operations and Sales Yep you're managing. Don't get me in trouble. I don't do anything. Year round. When when it comes to negotiating deals and lock the deals up under contract working with the sales guys that's what I do So Dom- works with the marketing side and our. Company automations. We, call him a project manager in the world of real estate people think of that as like a construction manager who goes to the projects don't do that but. The, project manager just works on polio. Create pulling lists skip tracing Treating Different automations in the system. Different workflows and might be getting a little technical but as with polio and and different integrations with Zap beer and globally flow automating the system basically. So Dom- takes care of that end takes care of hiring the virtual assistance pulling lists Make sure we have consistently flow right and then also handles a bunch of the employees. Stuff right hiring hiring. Getting the employees in trouble. Right correcting them does delay write ups yeah. Good. Cub backup, right. And a lot of backup for g because like on the sales side of it like it can become pretty overwhelming. Especially, like we're firing to scale, we're doing a lot of transactions Think we did twenty one last month but twenty one means that you might have started with trying to do thirty to thirty, five, thirty, five to thirty eight or whatever, and not all of them mark cow. So there's just a lot of moving parts a lot of activity, right? So he'll be over helping someone someone else needs assistance backed up for that as well. Gotcha. Okay. So the other thing you mentioned was that your One disposition Sotoudeh disposition people. House that helped you. So that has helped us tremendously especially during the Kovin. Outbreak right because. A lot of. Our biggest. Issue, during Kobe was the buyers right buyer stopped buying. Buyers were backing out by lowering the amount that they were offering. Buyers are no longer buying tenant occupied properties flipper in the past would he'd by kicked the out whatever now they're like our has to be vacant Kenny victim I don't know how long it's going to be until I can't act or whatever so. It's been a struggle trying to. or at least it was right trying to position deals to investors and we had a ton of buyers, but you get comfy working with the ones that you know. This guy's going to buy it. You know send it to him and so now on that their usual buyers you know there may be paid, they would've may be paid one hundred grand for this deal three months ago. Now they're offering eighty five, you know. It takes a while before our acquisition adjustments kicked in. Two because we lowered the amount that we were locking deals up under contract that takes a while to kick in. You still have these twenty properties they have under contract. What are we gonNA do now and so it's it's worked awesome. Being able to be more proactive with dispositions right before we were. A little more. Mainly reactive, right because it was only one person's my wife. So she was. Her. Yeah Yell at her, and so she will. She's been with us since day one as dispositions right and she did disposition transaction coordination and then we have no. Now we have a transaction coordinator and she's awesome. So she's allowed my wife to focus specifically on disposition. but on, you're trying to scale and grow obviously you get. overwhelmed. Every single day. Because now you know you get a new deal and in fact like they just messaged us Yes. last week we had eleven twelve properties under contract with. disposition, right? Yeah. Yeah. Within a week span was like ten locked up on the disposition side or eleven ten within like three a three day span. In the last three days we going. To title. So we this is a person there are in charge of obviously moving the properties. Are they also in charge of prospecting for buyers? They are in charge of. Not really not really. WHO's doing that? So we were taking more of a reactive approach to prospecting for buyers. So we get a lot of inflexible whenever we get a deal under contract. We put it out everywhere right social media, tons of different websites, connected investors, bigger pockets. We cast really big Web. So it drives a lot of people to opt into our list, right so we're getting what two or three, a day, two or Three a day new by. So we have thousands of buyers on our buyers lists in our market, and we're getting two or three every single day that are opting into our list, and that doesn't include the people that see ordeals that just call in to negotiate or whatever you know, and then they continue to to enquiring call and potentially by that having opted in his well Gotcha. Yeah, and how you're spending your disposition. Disposition, person was another person that wanted to be in an wholesaling and Is. When we when we were doing our our, we were having our coaching You know we did free office visits so that we allow people to come into our office for free for like a quick little twenty minute tour would give them a little tour and the we try to you know seldom, Hey, if you WANNA learn more come to our event or whatever right This was actually one of the. Persons that came in to do the tour and They had came to the tour probably a year before we hired them in one thing I I actually didn't remember is at the time his name is Charles by the shadows Charles When he did the tour and in remember this and he told us this later after he hired us, he said I told you what happens because he lived in Tennessee he's like, Hey, man he goes I'll just quit my job on to Jacksonville work for you guys right now. Would you guys take us on and we weren't ready to take we weren't hiring at that point. Yeah. But it was flattering you know and it just so happens that exa months later you know were higher for disposition agent he had already lived in Jacksonville new his. You know his wife had family out here in Jackson you know in Jacksonville and stuff like that. So they moved to Jacksonville we were hiring and he saw the post. So he came in for an interview that's awesome. So another question these guys must be asking is what? To get to two hundred. You. Know a I appreciated that you guys sent the the Hud and a well-packaged. Oh did it come through and? Good Google drive where I could just click the huts I really appreciate that get email and I have to kind of figure it all out. I appreciate it. That what what lead source has been most effective for you guys. In in Jacksonville secrets, you guys again the secrets now. For this so calling is is just The Major League sources I co calling where we're heavy on CO calling yeah. We've got about eleven agents things that were looking at doing now is just picking up another four or five agents because now that we're going into another market and we're starting to see success in a clear path of how to succeed in that second market. Now since we're in, we're we we still see a lot of potential on undoing more in the market that we're in the way we're not done with expanding inside of our market. There's a lot of things that we're going to zero in on of it. At the same time, we can expand as well. So when we go into the other market and we we've only pulled a small amount of data. There's so much more data that we can pull into that in that market. So they began starting marseils We're GONNA expand now going to be able to hire more salespeople and build on the team. Were you guys, findings, agents. coca-cola Haney won't all the secrets you know. It's it's interesting. Yeah. So basically, we do it organically we Meshaal upward here and there we hadn't really had a ton of success with it, but really we've had more success on craigslist, right but not only just craigslist craigslist in the countries that we target and we mainly have been like central and South American countries and we had a good experience. A lot of people that live in central and South America they spend a good part of their lives in the US. Yeah, you know either. They came over as kids you know after they were born they weren't quite legal. They spent you know their grammar school time middle school time in the US and just moved back and whatever the case may be however work data I feel like half of our, our agents have lived in us for a period of time and the other ones that haven't they just they get our culture they can talk. You know it's not just that they've learned English so they know how to speak it. It's they get how to have a conversation with an American and that just seems to make a big difference for us because we've had Philippine agents and agents from Indian things like them fat bad experiences and and then you know maybe it was early on in our wholesale career maybe it's not because those countries don't work it just that's the path that led us to getting to the agents that we pick right now in the now since we're trying to aggressively. At agents on four five, you know within the next few weeks hopefully we are we are GONNA put ads out into, you know Philippines and India Pakistan things like that. Just to see if there's still hope for for that size just so we have you know an abundance of options but we'll just have to see how that turns out. Yeah I mean I've kind of heard the same thing. Just it's hard in the Philippines to have that same track record of consistent success. I'm like. From what appears Costa Rica since they'd be like the most popular as far as finding ex-pats What are you guys paying these people? the CO callers. So we're paying them anywhere between four to seven dollars an hour. Depending on. Number one obviously there's skill set and their background, but also what they're. Still getting paid. And then after a year, because we have some people that have been with callers that have been with us for over a year. Yeah So we bumped them up on their on their wages and they also get abilities and they also get bonus So depending on the amount of leads that they get after every. every month they have different tiers. So if they get X. amount of leads, they qualify for first level incentive than if they get more more leads than they get a second tier incentive and so that's kind of how paying them anywhere between four to seven and WHO's managing them. So we have one. Manager in the office and she manages them all day. So she trained them up, she listened to their calls she answered their questions she makes sure the leads come in and tasks out the leads to the acquisition managers Yeah. So that's that's. Only, her role at one point in the beginning she was in house go caller herself through for a long for a long time. So another one of the leadership positions another one of the leadership position. Yeah. So she's kind of like an we we entitled the VA's lead specialists. So she's like the manager for the lead specialists in on the same token she's elite manager in the sense as well. Gotcha One thing at this is just as an aside because I had a debate with somebody last week Florida. I've heard that you will get crushed Abd, RBM and texts. Just from a TCP, the specific loss I've heard that I've investigated. What are your? What is your guys? Is GonNa, talk to my attorney before I enter the. Asking the US is asking what you guys hearing out there. Yeah. So Florida's definitely one of those states that everybody's cautious in with text vm We kind of just. Do what we do and tried to follow it as best as possible. Yeah. Follow the rules as best as possible but is it Is it a? Is it a dish lost Florida or the general just more proactive? I. Think it's additional laws. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. I. I don't take my advice for this. You know attorney I'm not an attorney you know but from what we know. It seems that there's different laws in Florida rather than more enforced, but it's cool to see. Is there software out there that works in a way to compensate for the laws right and they claim to be. Safe to use any state in the US right so they'll function like if there's texting software, they'll function in a way as if you're sending the texts individually and they actually make you kind of do it individually bit you. They help you to do it faster and we're using we're using software like that guy. So if we're GONNA text, then we're going to do it legitimately. Deck complies with the FISA TCP, a laws So we're we're doing stuff like that We're not doing a whole ton of rbm stuff plates more like co calling and texting in a lot of the in that we do. It's really on the buyer side. So we're we're just getting information quicker to the people that expect to hear from us and we don't really do text blasting. For sellers. We, we use them call tools. is the dialer that we use and is sends out texts as a dials. So instead of sending out, you know thirty thousand tax will call the list, and if they don't pick up than the text message or if the hang up, then they'll get a text message. Goddamn. So that's kind of how we've been doing very cool You guys don't seem to be have been impacted by COVID. A little a little bit man so. So the funny thing is we've we've been having a gradual growth for the last couple of a couple of years. You know tweaking little things adding to the process getting better as we go along and You know we had a record breaking month in March Right and then we just we just had momentum. We had the momentum we were feeling good. We were growing and then Cova came in. And you know everyone get nervous and then it just started seem seemed like like you know sellers on the seller side investors on the buyer side like. No one knew it to expect right and since they didn't know what to expect they didn't do anything it's not like they didn't want to sell or buy in one by the wanted to, but they just didn't know what was going to happen. So they wanted to stand on the sidelines to wait and see what was going to happen. Right so I don't know I. Think we had one hundred, seven, hundred, eighty, thousand dollars a month in in March and then we still had a good month in April is was over one hundred, thousand dollars and then Maye started to kind of tank a little more between fifty and sixty thousand dollars so During that timeframe we started questioning like you know. He's at us in a way like I know there's a problem but sometimes, you don't WanNa. Believe there's a problem like you know your process has worked and you want to push forward and don't want to drive and you don't really want to change anything. But then life teaches you a lesson and it tells you to be creative and figuring things out now I in a way it was a blessing in disguise because it made us implement processes that help us to operate more efficiently now that the. Economy's recovering a little bit where you know people are coming to terms with the fact that Kogas here but you know life goes on at work with you stuff to push forward and buy, and so what is this week? So one of the big things was was the texting on the buyer side right in formation to more buyers quicker right portraying your deals over to a big array of people to get more interest on right so that that was probably the biggest learning experience I would say before that sounds so commonsense you know just like text your buyers. We've built a good reputation in Jacksonville and we have a good group of buyers and because of. The network of buyers that we built, we have a lot of repeat customers An and the repeat customers that we have are. They're paying good prices for the deals. You know what? I mean and so it's worth a for us to you know because sometimes. You get those repeat customers that are like Oh. You know you you used to make five grand on my deals. Now you're making fifteen grand on my deals. What's going on you know and we have some repeat customers like did you're GonNa make ten grand or you're gonNA make fifty grand as it fits my number I'll buy it. And that's kind of. The the relationships that we have out there, and so you get kind of comfy just you know calling. Five guys. Easy sale right and then Kobe hits. Those five guys dropped their numbers you know or out of it for the next month because they want to see what's going to happen so now We've had this list of buyers for years. We haven't. We email blast them but email blasts you know you can email blast, four, thousand emails you only get two hundred opens. So there's. Three, thousand, eight, hundred people that didn't see the deal So how do we get to them right now and text blasting has been has been huge for us and then also lowering the acquisition number right so lowering the amount of. The amount that were offering to sellers. because. Dat Obviously, buyers are offering less But that's always been a struggle for us not not more of a mental struggle. You know it's the whole struggle of like I could make five on it. So let's lock it up. Instead of I need to make ten on this one I need to make fifteen grand on it. So that's been a a mindset shift for us is offering less and getting better deals. What is you guys targeted fee? We target to make fifteen. Yeah. Yeah. In order you guys finding to be your average fee are average fee has been about ten to thirteen Gotcha. Okay and then before even jumped in the air, we're talking business building. that was one of the things you guys are GonNa be focusing on his well. What does that mean? Exactly? So what we WANNA do is our. Dream. is to build squadrons right. And a squadron would consist of the exact amount of people that kid. handle leads from a specific market size or combination of of market sizes that can flow equally throughout the the people in the squadron. So when you look at our team, it's it's like an assembly line right? We have project management lead generation, right so the generate, you know they're they're putting together the lead source and they skip trace it, they load the dialers, they handle the virtual assistance and they're bringing the leads in right when the leads come in they. They disqualified the ones that we know in their signs that we look at that. We know we'RE NOT GONNA get a deal with or most likely. We're not going to get a deal with this individual. The remaining leads the hand over to the acquisition managers in the acquisition managers they have their follow up schedules and and their routines and their rules that they have to go by with handling the scripts in the conversations and the offers and the contracts and things of that sort. So they're going to lock up those deals once they lock up those deals with the sellers, they pass them onto the acquisition liaison, which in a sense is really kind of an acquisition assistant or support person for the acquisition managers and that person is GonNa Handle like for us we pull the DS, we get a lot of information we call the seller. So we get all the information, is that ten month to month or when is the lease and all of that information and they're in charge of setting the initial appointment in the. Initial walk through and then they're also support person for dispositions for setting showing appointments for that property for our investors right that individual handles that from that person, it goes onto a disposition liaison, which in a sense as a support person or an assistant for the disposition side of the business, and they're going to do a live, the Biron marketing and the email blasts posting are deals and all different websites and things of that sort support other support things that we have in line for the disposition managers, and once all that's done Then, a lot of interest comes to disposition managers by way of email phone calls into the office and things of that sort and disposition managers also will mass texts, blast targeted investors for the properties depending on the category. The property falls into buying hold or flips things of that sort and then once they contract the deals with the investors than all of that information, you know all the paperwork from the the the acquisition side and the disposition side goes to the transaction coordinator, and then they take it from there and try to take all the. Burden away from all sides of the business and handle it from that point going forward into we close right. So what is that? What are the right numbers? What's the right number of acquisition of managers I? The right number of disposition managers, acquisition, liaison, disposition liaison, the right number of V as how many leads need to come in that va can handle and how many Va's transitions to an acquisition manager and so on and so forth down the assembly line. So we're getting close and we're not perfect and feel like we have the numbers pretty close and then once. You know as close as possible. As we're going into our next market. We're starting to see kind of a morph of a second squadron being build inside of the I squadron. So what that's going to create is adding more sales managers, adding more dispositions, adding more support people, and then ultimately separating the teams right. So you know team one might handle. You know all of Jackson on half of San, Antonio and then team to is gonNA handle half of San Antonio and then we're GONNA come into Arizona you know you guys go Probably probably not but you get where I'm going you know and then they'll handle a certain. You know it's really all in the number of of leads that we can pull in from. You know the the markets that were in to see team I could see what dominance in charge of the the project management and yes. In the whole organization I'm just a wholesaler. That's awesome. That was really cool. All right. Let's get to some of these questions Awfully patient with us So you got some love over here from Leo. See. Why would you really do? So really what's return to keep these guys so what is the most challenging thing for you and his business? So I think one of the most like what's going to become INS immersed starting to see that the most challenging thing is to build leadership roles. Right to choose the right people for the leadership roles You know we don't really know we have experience hiring and training people that can work for us as leaders but to hire people that can lead the other individuals is going to be. Of really challenging thing we don't have a whole lot of experience in that had another business before this it wasn't a big thing that I've worked toward. You know I was always the leader but now that you've been in business for a long time and you know we're we're in personal development and we wanna grow something great it's going to be you know true leaders build leaders perhaps. One of our. Organization I building leaders correct. Yeah. one thing you touched on earlier was coaching where you guys you were trying to coach a little bit but you guys don't do that anymore correct talk about that. Because a lot of people you see it, you know anyone someone has a limited success like coach now. And they kind of like transition away or whatever. So talk about what Tempted you to do it and it was what causes a Africa? Yeah. It's a great queer. So a lot of it Kinda got started because we were getting asked a lot Locally in Jacksonville I Were very involved in the community, right so we try to many networking events as possible Any opportunity that there is to teach a class we'll teach it I. I was Vice President of the local Rea-? I was on the Board for two years. Then I was VP for one year. So Our name is out there in in the local market and then there's you know. Every single. Three months of new networking event pops up right and so we're big on because. One of the reasons why were so active on networking for recruiting right? Like most of our people clouds move very effective. Yeah. Most of the people that that come work for us the they know about us, they know about our business before the even come work, for us yeah, and so Because of that, we were out there. and. We started getting a lot of people asking US questions. Hey how'd you do this? You know can I can I spend a day of your office is kind of started somebody asked to spend the day at our office and we charge them for it. And what we did is we let them sit with each department. Right. So they would sit with the manager who manages the the virtual assistance. So they sat with them for an hour right and they watched all that and then they sat with an acquisition manager and they watched them then they sat with the Acquisition Liaison Watch, what they did then with disposition liaison transaction coordination, and it was cool because we were we were able to bring these people in. We sat with them for about a half hour in the morning ten a you know. Seeing them up on how they was gonna go and the team would kind of handle the rest of it So it seemed kind of lucrative for us right? Because, Hey, one person you know they'll pay US thousand bucks to hang out with us for one day and. Not. A lot of people were bringing people their office, a lot of people do trainings, but they don't bring them into their office right or the there's a lot of coaches out there but they're not really doing it right and so there's a handful of people out there that are crushing. It still have massive operations and our coaching as well but most of the coaches out there. Had Their Success and analysis focused on coaching right and so we saw that there was a little niche in the coaching industry of wholesaling where there's not a lot of people out there saying come to my office shadow, my team you know So we felt like we could be effective with that and so it started off with one person and there were like, Hey, let's start promoting it online. Social. Media this guy's at our office for the day. You guys are interested. You know hit me up and then people were contacting us. And that led to another thing and then out of nowhere we were doing you know events. At our office with four or five people shattering one department then we took didn't conference from Table Out and has sixteen people in there. And then instead of them showing at their desk, we'd have the we work in our conference room would bring the Work of Asian honored her there to in front of the people, and then we were like. Let's rent out a hotel room. You know because this thing is working and then we recreated that whole event in a hotel room. We had eighty people there and then we were going down the path of let's start a mastermind group. You know because people will pay more for that. And there's a desire for there's a need for it and we're big believers. Join, a different mastermind group. So we're big believers in it. We do it ourselves. But. And it's funny because. We're growing in our office right and we were in our office right now we had to tear down walls. We had to kick our landlord out of part of the building so that we can take over some space and in the past we didn't have all the space that we have now in our office. So Dom- Ni-. It's funny but dominate used to have like very serious conversations in like our storage rooms posit because that was the only. Place we could go wherever super quiet come out and on. Mop Water. So. Really. You got two minutes and then we'd go hide in the closet really quick and just talk and I remember just sitting there and we were both talking. Do. Should we like we started a mastermind group. We had four people signed up. They had already gave us five grand each to do this three month mastermind group. and. We were coming back from momentum event and we were super pumped. Really Shit. There's so much stuff that we can still do in. In our business. And we sat down and we were like, what if all the time that we had put into this coaching? We had. Put into our wholesale business. You know like, where would we be and we feel like we're behind in our wholesale business where it could be because for a year we were focused on coaching and it almost felt like we were cheating on her wholesale business You know in our staff because our staff there they thrive off of closing deals you know and we pitch them on. We're going to become the biggest in the baddest wholesale company in the nation. And that was no longer are focus it was but it was you know doing two things there was like said, but not being done yet. and. So we were sitting in the in the storage closet and we just made the decision we're like artless like should we really do this? You know like we're about because once you take five grand from people and and we were very very honest people. So we want to commit. We're going to go out of our way especially getting started coaching. We totally undercharged for everything that we do that. We did in coaching because we were. Trying. To build a brand get clients whatever right and. We knew that. Once we commit to coaching somebody like we're going to do everything we can to make sure they're successful right and we just knew that. Starting, a mastermind group and going down that path is going to ultimately take. All of our time away from our wholesale business and we thought our wholesale business was there to be self sufficient but it was nowhere close to what we wanted it to be an it's nowhere close now. And so. We just made that decision right there, and then we're like screw it. We called up the people sorry to tell you this but. We're just too busy to do this. We're going to give you back your money. If something comes back up, you'll be the first person to reach out to, and we still have great relationships with those people and we've introduced to other mentors and are mentors Kate I can't answer it but these are the people are mentoring us. You know go with them But. That's kind of how it happened and we just saw all the numbers that we were doing like I would just spend like four months putting on this event trying to put on this men were like, let's look at the numbers like no money a couple there. That's a couple of wholesale deals like. Let's just put our energy back into our wholesale business, and then like two months after we stopped coaching and just went all into wholesale and we had our first six month and we just felt the impact of us just one hundred percent driven into our wholesale business and we feel right now like. We should be. More down the line of where we want to be, but we kind of took a little. Hiatus because of coaching and I don't regret it because. It forced us to put ourselves out there forced us to brand ourselves on social media forced us to. Do facebook stories every day, and you know instagram stories and build that following, which is still important to our wholesale business right now whether it's buyers or credibility for other wholesalers, I want the JV with us or expanding and recruiting people that are watching US online. So we're still big believers on branding. That's why we still do like a Tuesday night show and we own a networking. Group in Jacksonville So we're big believers of it, but we just don't want to commit by charging people because once you charge somebody now, like can't sleep at night unless you're performing for you gotta you gotta you gotTa treat their money right? Exactly. cloudy. The question is, how are you guys staying lean marketing wise but still able to produce plenty of leads for that position team. Did you staying lean are you saying lean marketing was still able to provide leads? So I think it's just continuously pulling data and in one thing that we've learned in this is not entirely proven. Some of it is theoretical is like will pull a mass amount of data right emperor quarterly and will re pull a lot of the same data all over quarterly, and it will perform like brand new data. So we'RE BIG ON CO calling, right so we pull a list and we dial a list it'll perform well right and if we dial through that same list, it will perform less well than it did the first time and then the third time the four-time that you go through that. List, you'll get less leads from it over time writing, and then if we go back in the beginning of the next quarter and pull that same exact list, it performs brand new. Again, my theory is and I don't know if this is proven, haven't really dial it on on this data but the theory is like you know people are moving. There's New People that occupy those properties they change their phone numbers as all these different things go on in people's lives, and you have eighteen year olds that about their first home twenty, four people in early twenties about their first home now, and they're on the list. Things like that are going on all the time. So we're pulling the same data entirely over. And just data, and then it just performs like brand new data in that's kind of the way that we're working with it now. So John says you have to bear with this question He's marketing consistently for six months but still no deal. And it feels like nine of leads base marketing good amount of people on his position. What would you do? So I feel like I know the answer but I'm not gonNA give it but I'm not. Next week It's an maybe this isn't the correct answer but the answer to me is your buyers list right because I feel like he. Joon, not know what his buyers are looking for or what his buyers are willing to pay for the deals that are out there and so I- every wholesaler that I that I. Meet that wants to get started. I always ask them. You're only as good as your buyers list right? How good is your buyers list and a lot of people out there are just just find a good deal. You find a good deal, it'll sell right but confidence and wholesaling is everything especially just getting started in the fear of you not making a strong offer to the seller because you don't know if you're gonNA perform or not is going to stop you from doing deals so I feel like and this is what? Made me a successful wholesaler is especially when when we started our business, you know I had already been wholesaling for a couple years before I started this business with dom. So when I started this business with them, we had buyer's already to like we did our first deal you know within a month or two of once we started doing marketing because I had already done deals already had buyer's knew they were looking for So if you don't have a solid list of buyers and a good relationship with buyers not Confidence, everything and having the ability to portray that confidence to the seller and being confident in our I'm going to offer them fifty I. Know it's Super Low, but I'm going to be able to perform right and so. Most of the time, you're not making the offers that you should be making because you're either scared that you're not gonna be able to sell it or you're offering to low right and I know this might sound weird but. There's deals out there that you know you feel like you needed for thirty there's a buyer that's willing to pay forty five. You can offer them forty and make five grand on. Like Buyers Eagles confidence confidence equals deals. Yes. Yes and you kind of see it in some of these guys you know they're they're offering one hundred dollars M D, which I'm not saying anything wrong with it but. You're confident that number if more confident. MD Yeah for sure Lucas Roscoff. No. Did you guys decrease your marketing expenses at all I'm I'm presuming he's talking about covert here. Did you guys reduce your marketing during Govan? We? We actually didn't she didn't one of the things that we had a conversation about was we're GONNA try to operate as close to normal as we possibly can because in our minds like it felt temporary and kind of still does feel temper because ultimately you know the mass are going to go away. The vaccine is GonNa be here and people are GonNA operate normally people are still you know contract the disease or the the Whatever the flu whatever it is but we just we just said to ourselves we're not gonNA PANIC WE'RE NOT GONNA RETREAT WE'RE GONNA continue to market the same the same did cut cut a couple of loose ends. We tighten a few things up we explored new options but we did not reduce our marquis. Anna Leo wants to know. Is Deals. You guys need to do per month to break even. Certain amount of deals so with it really comes down to to Proper per deal right but we probably need to at least make like eighty grand a month to at least break even. Along our holdings and? Deals. And we're getting eight to thirteen a deal. So I mean tend to their Tina deal so and there's one thing. That you guys could change about your business. What would you guys change? Nestle good question. If there's one thing we can change about our business. What would we change Sheesh Dude we've been talking straight. We haven't paused on any questions so far. It's more deep than people realize You got something I if if I could change something in our business. I would say. I WOULD WANNA say not start the coaching and just go in On the real estate but without that experience, you wouldn't have known like it's always GonNa sit in the back it feels like it would ultimately come back one days every distraction more. So when you're not ready for it and now that we've gotten that out of our system I guess. I guess I would WANNA know from other parties What that experiences like. So I would rather know whether to to try it or not and we didn't have any any experience like that. So basically tried it on our own in a kind of. But our growth trajectory on hold in a innocence. So if I could know that information and not do it we'd be further along in our real estate business than we are right now. If that helps now's on and and I would say another thing I don't know 'cause obviously you. Were here today because of everything that we've done in the past you know. So I don't Wanna I don't really have any regrets but a big mindset shift for us was offering lower. was. Was Negotiating, a better deal right and the reason was because we knew it was a quick thing you know If if we can get this deal into contract, we can make a quick to grin on it. Just flipping into this guy you know, let's make a quick to grant on it a quick three grand on it and that's how it was like the first year like our first year in business like our average profit was like forty three, hundred bucks. Right and so 'cause we want to have that equal balance of. Decent margins and decent volume right. Because we also don't want to do four deals at forty grand deal you know Hard to replicate that. For sure. Yeah, and so. That was a big thing for me right because when I was a one man show like two grand four grand deal is awesome. You know and you know, I, do one of those a month to those month. Great. But now you have a, you know you have a team of staff you have an overhead I can't really afford those two grand deal anymore. You know because those two grand deals almost take more time than fifteen grand deal you're losing based on author for did yeah for sure. To that that's one of the things that I think out and we have this challenge with our acquisition managers especially during covert because during and we made address now I wanna see a drastic. But over time we've tweaked it down and down and down a little bit more and it's funny because we just tell them the numbers to get them under contract and they just get them under contracts. Zoe. Yeah. Yeah. So that was one of our biggest things. Let's lower it a little bit and. So that's something that I would say Ron wants to know what markets are you guys any about Jacksonville? Are you guys and other markets? Are you guys looking at South South Florida? When looking at South Florida, we've heard some pretty horrible things about South Florida Miami's a tough market So basically what we were in Jacksonville Florida and what we what we try to do is we try to look the other markets and try to figure out which ones are similar to Jacksonville's possible because that's how where we know how to operate you know all the way. down. To like the the climate, right you know in the climate during the winter like winter months can be disruptive storms and you know icing and all that stuff. So San Antonio seemed to be very similar in climate very similar in medium price point effect the price points a little bit lower One thing that was really interesting is that their market size is about five times bigger than Jacksonville Florida. So, if we can operate the way that we operate in Jacksonville set of San Antonio we have a lot of room for expansion and we can build roots into that market. I think we can go a long way. Gotcha very cool and the answer is Hornets question what marketing is going into. Arizona. everyone should go in Arizona. Everyone should definitely becoming Arizona. Lot of us are looking in other markets. Okay. So you mentioned that you guys are purely focused on wholesale. So you guys aren't doing any flipping or any retail at all like just strictly your closing on our first hotel deal. In September on September fifteenth. So we're buying a Condo Ponte. Vedra beach like a Nice beach town. and. We're closing on that because during covid. We didn't know it was going to happen. And we did it. To buyers backing out and so one of our things was, do we just need to raise money and just take down these properties ourselves? Right? Because we're still getting deals we know they're deals You know we might not be able to make a quick ten fifteen on it, but we gotta pay the bills. So do we just need to take it down ourselves, put it on the market and then make the fifteen on it. You know what wasn't crazy for us was the one of the best things about Kobe was that we started buying more deals because. So I mean, we've died we got one that we made seventy on one that. We're closing in a couple of weeks they were making sixty. Like another worry making a hundred and it's just like these are the wholesale before. Because, everyone's backing I was like, well, the deals are still really good. Yeah. So that's awesome. That's that's that's really cool to hear. All right. So In the last year because I was asked, your favorite book has been a year in the past year. What is what book have you give them more than any other? In the past year. Or favorite book. To be honest man, I, haven't really haven't really read much last year I would. Have haven't really read much in the last year. I bought a big lesson so but I would say though that one of the things that drives me that has always stuck with me is the myth right and obviously the book is awesome but it's The one thing that stuck with me in the myth was build your business like a franchise even if you're never going to franchise it out right and I tell this to everybody right tell us to my dad my dad owns restaurants right and I tell them like your goal shouldn't be to franchise if you don't want to but you should build it like a franchise on that has driven me in my business one hundred percent you know I don't think we'll ever franchise it could be somewhere down in the path who knows But I want to build it like like a franchise and that's going to continue to To, push me but I don't really read much to be honest. I just listened to a lot of podcasts. Always your favorite podcasts besides disruptors obviously, obviously disrupters not one. So what one of the biggest podcasts and I know this is gonNA sound weird because it's not really real estate related but I listened to a ton of Joe Rogan. And I listened to the different individuals that he interviews and I compare. Their lives to my life in real estate and different things that they're doing So just And he interviews some weird people right and he's got a very broad ranch is not limited, which is what I like. Yeah and I like to. Listen to those things and see how they can apply in my business right So a big a big big lesson for me that I'm trying to do now more is. When you're delegating. You you forget that you need to lead from the front. Right, and so it's hard to delegate because there's so much going on. That is hard to delegate and still lead from the front like it's hard for me to coach my acquisition managers and still do aquisition calls while. Trying to sell the deal managing employees and all that stuff. So. One thing that I've recently been trying to do is get more involved with them and I forgot who it was that was Though saying this on his podcast but I found myself recently in the last. Month or so ever since I heard that just trying to. You know, hate this call I'm going to do it and you're gonNA listen to me right like just the other day we had a back out of a deal and my one of my acquisition Maj was kind scared on backing out of the deal because you know we we renegotiated the seller extended the deal and we still couldn't perform So you've got to back out right and you know obviously no one likes to talk about those things but now the reality of of of wholesaling and we had the buyer back now. So now we had to back out. And so like normally I. Just mark backed out you know. But I just feel that he wasn't comfortable and I know that if I were to do that call next time, he'll be more comfortable. Confident. Right and I did the call it was super easy and he was like others it and I was like, yes, that's it. You know So little things like that. I found myself that. Cup trying to do more of is leading from the front, which is hard. When you're the business owner sue and you're trying to build the business, you don't have time to get on the phone with the seller But I've been you know, let let me get on the phone with them. You know how takeover that call let let let me do it and so that was one of my biggest lessons recently. That I think I need to do more of, and it's just an excuse of I don't have time to do it is to find the time you and most calls. You know it's going to be five ten minute call anyway. It's in my head like I don't have time to do this like let me just do the one call him renegotiate the seller for my closer to listen, and then that is gonNa make a huge impact not only in. The ability for him to do it in the future but also too trust me to trust me that I can do this. You know you're listening to me because I've done this listening to me because I'm smooth I can you know I can get us out of any? Situation with the seller with a buyer, whatever it is, you know just the other day I had the whole disposition team in the transaction coordination team. In the conference room with me talking. And I was on speaker with the buyer because the buyer was like mad at us because he found out how much we're making and I had to kind of diffuse the situation and I had you know the disposition liaison who doesn't do any sales but he wanted to listen to the call anyway hanging to disposition managers and our transaction coordinator, and there were just listening to me in the conference room you know and so. That's what. I'm trying to do more of and it's hard, but it is what it is. Now that's awesome. How about you? Series this shit. So I read a shit ton, it's by Gonzalo Kors though. I I mean it it. It might sound typical. But my favorite book of all time thinking grow rich by Napoleon Hill. And, the reason it's my favorite book of all time is because. Before this I built a successful business It was a foreclosure maintenance business and I grew it. To the I was a part of Iran field crews in eight states for these national companies and had a lot going on. We're doing five million a year at our top. And You know I don't really have any college degrees I don't have any educational. Whatever to to brag about but I would go to these these yearly national seminars and conferences I for my industry and you know you know either at the conferences or dinners afterward I'd find myself at these tables with you know ten or fifteen individuals. It's my client since my competition right Mike Competition these guys you know they have achieved things you know they they've had their bachelor's or master's in certain realms of education or whatever. The case may be another thing I don't follow sports you know people talk about sports all the time it's a conversational piece that just can get things going and I don't. Do that so they're talking sports they're talking about their achievements whatever the case may be, and the one thing that was different timmy in them is like I'm like three times bigger than these people. So I would sit there thinking like how am I even at this table and how am I beating these people out when they seem admirable? They seem like people that should probably ten times my size and I never really knew what I was doing and when an also prior to that, I'd never really read any books and I wasn't in self development I didn't really follow anyone really really have any mentors. So when I started getting into self development and reading books and things like that and I picked up thinker grow rich. It told me what it was that had no what I had right and it's the simplest thing you would ever think of it's just It's persistence right think and grow rich. told me that I had persistence I had persistence more so than anyone around me or anyone that I've ever met, right so. This guy might be smarter but I'm going out work and I'm going to beat them and if I can't do that now I'll get better six months from now and then I'll persevere Nassir especially. Yeah eventually I will win. Since just my favorite book of all time, I've read it three or four times. Then within the last year and I've read just I don't know a ton of books within the last year though probably read a good to great a couple times I've read it three times in the past them or fourth time right now I find myself I'll read new books but I'll go back to the ones that really affected me or that I really took something from an I implemented things from it and I'll learn new things from the rereads Jim Collins. Great. He's got a couple books are really good. The last. The thing about I, think I think there's two things here a the. If I had just read that book alone in that, read any of the books. I'd be just as fine because a lot of the other books and really just re saying the same thing as thinker rich and the second thing is a lot of people can't finish that book, which is Ironic because that book is about persistence. Fish that book. PROBABLY NOT GONNA make. It's funny. It's funny. So I'm GonNa let you guys think about something you guys want to leave the listeners with and just make one quick announcement guys. If you guys got value out of the show, please hit the like button please hit subscribe helped me a lot. It'll help us create more millionaires and next week we got Jesse BARRAL AND EVA dragon author comeback about how. These started as individual wholesalers been teaming up, they've created something that's changed her life. So tune in next week, we get Jesse and evil they're gonNA, talk about their journey together So before we wrap up. Last thoughts while leaderless. I would just say you know just to keep everything super simple just be very ethical in everything that it is that you do be very straightforward with people One thing that I think our sales team does very well. Is there straightforward with everyone that they talk to the tell everyone exactly what it is that we're doing and how our process is going? To, go people have a sixth sense of figuring out if you're bullshitting them or not. Right. So if you're trying to portray the deal in a different way, that's not really how it's GonNa get done they're going to not trust it in. That's probably why you're not getting deals right so that's that's just kind of like to leave everyone with and how can someone get hold of you. you know instagram real dom Felix Dominic Felix on on facebook and we do a we do a wholesale show every Tuesday at nine pm eastern time it's called the people's wholesalers. So you guys can go to facebook and search the people's wholesalers and join the group in. It's free obviously Colt. Last thoughts. So. Last thoughts is you want to make it in this industry or in general. You have to change your sphere of influence you have to. Change, the people that you're talking to on a daily basis, you have to change the people you look up to on on a daily basis so. I I would say you know that has made me who I am today it's it's been the hard work and action taking in in all of that but. Than anything. It's been surrounding myself with people who are. You know just crushing it in industries and sometimes it that takes money you know. It is what it is. You know. Room Yeah you go by yourself into the right room sometimes and that's something that we've done. And every time I connect with somebody that's doing more than I am pushes me to to do more and that in itself will. Get you to where you WANNA be way quicker than. A bunch of other stuff you can work hard you can. You can you know Lake Lake Lake put dom said about his old business that he was with right his his business that he had in the past he was at a table and it took him ten years to get to be at those tables and I think that and he knows this he could got there sooner if he had surrounded himself with people who had been in, you know in in those In that industry and it was a little bit of a different industries, not like real estate where you can just listen to podcasts and there's people sharing all the details on their of their business. and it was a different time but. I feel like that's why we're. We are where we are today is we are continuously in rooms where we're not the most successful person in the room. You know we're we're we're trying to become like the people that were hanging out with and that's something that. As you grow and as you? Get more and more successful becomes harder right because you've never done deal and you go to networking event of real estate in the people who've done three deals. You're already somewhere right. But now you know we're in Jacksonville were. Top Dogs, and in real and wholesaling So it's hard to go into a room where people were doing more wholesale deals than us and so. It's challenging ourselves to. Be In those rooms where you know people are doing fifty plus deals right in that hard. There's not a lot of people if there are people doing out there they're not talking about other required about yeah. They're very quiet about it and so it's a it's a challenge right to get to those next levels but I think. That's the last thing that I want to leave people with because nobody really talks about that. But that has been the biggest game changer for me. You know when I was eighteen, I was shadowing millionaires and that's what made me who I am today So changes for influenced stop hanging out with people who don't want to be successful as you are, and it is hard to do It's probably the hardest thing that you are going to have to do in order to achieve success but. It's going to get you. To where you want to be. And how how can someone get hold of you. So Gonzalo Cores on Facebook Real Gonzalo Cortisone instagram just send me a message and let's connect. Awesome. All right. Thank you guys. Thank you all for watching. CD. Up this. Body. You'll be brought the. Church. Pew. Shot up to St Train. Your phone train. For Further? Weekday.

US sales manager. Jacksonville Florida polio Hud sales manager Bishen Kobe project manager HR manager founder operations manager. Halsey coordinator Gaza Jackson Dominic Phillix
1509 Dr. Suzanne Ebert of ADA Practice Transitions on Finding the Right Match in a New Practice : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

1:24:22 hr | 4 d ago

1509 Dr. Suzanne Ebert of ADA Practice Transitions on Finding the Right Match in a New Practice : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran

"Is this a huge huge honor for me today to be podcasts. Everything dr suzanne marie either diaz who graduated from the university of louisville college of dentistry foaling. Gp are. she entered private practice. As an associate in saint augustine florida she started her solo private practice and ponte vedra beach florida. We're situated friends and family for eleven years upon the silver practice. She elected to continue to continue her care. Providing dental care to indigent populations becaming the dental director at a locally federally qualified health center under her tenure the clinics expanded ran efficiently and profitably while addressing real needs in the community including elder care. Special needs care yard diversion. Doctor also became heavily involved in florida dental association leadership where my classmates caesar sabato says just became the president-elect go caesar rising through the chairs of our local component and ultimately into the position of trustee for the florida dental association as adjunct faculty for the university of florida. She had the privilege of working directly with senior dental students as they rotated through our clinics. Dr ebert considers herself a clinical dennis. I and his unwavering in her desire to protect private practice dentistry. She's a vocal advocate of having a strong association to lead the dental profession to the issues facing today. Dr ebert is currently the vice president of dental practice and relationship management for the ada business innovation groups. So she did her gp. Our university of florida her d. m. d. university of louisville louisville. Right mobile you have to put a bunch of marbles in your mouth i our. Oh my gosh. You won't believe this. If i tell you i mean this. You can't make this stuff up so my dad. I learned everything from my dad had five. Sonic drive-in in wichita but he wanted to go global so he went north. Put one abilene. Kansas nebraska went south down to texas and for east. It was it was louisville. So i was always the summer between every high school year. I was always on the opening crew of new restaurant. So i spent a summer in louisville and that was so damn cool. My gosh the only bad thing i did there was when we first pulled in. We saw our first tobacco filled. So i wanted to jump out and pull a couple take back home. You know to save as souvenirs and evidently you can. You can do that in iowa. Corn farms but You you can't pull a tobacco plant out of the ground. And i learned that at about fourteen years old by got shot but my gosh. I wonder if you It to start this out. If you could just go back in time to win you graduated from louisville. What the hell are they supposed to do. They graduated in the middle of a pandemic. Now the class of twenty twenty i. I'm doing this podcast. I don't really care about a bunch of fifty eight year old fat bald dentists who have six grandchildren and debt free and money. I'm i'm worried about these kids coming out of school with four hundred thousand dollars in student loans. The you're in this Doing a lot in the practice transitions. Let me tell you how bad that is. Dental always had we've always had free classified ads and we've always had about a thousand. Dennis selling their practice listed and about five thousand jobs. Now it's two thousand dentists. Saying i'm done i'm outta here and only one thousand jobs so these kids are coming out of school. The only people hiring or dso's which is why trying to podcast all the dso's here in arizona. So many young kids saying who owns nbc to do that guy. So i you know i did dr. V my gosh What advice would you give him. Well what you're talking about is one of the main reasons. I got into this role at eight practice transitions. I worked with senior dental students for six. And a half years. They rotated in two week rotations through my clinics and when they would come into the clinic i would always ask. So what are you gonna do next year. And the ones that weren't going into a residency and weren't going into a family practice that they already had established. They had no idea what to do. So the common response was. I have absolutely no options. I'm just gonna go. Work in the dea. So and i said well you actually do have some options. Let's go over those options. And i think what resonated the most with me was towards the end of that six and a half years. I noticed that. I kept hearing the same thing over again. I know i'm going to hate my first year in practice. You're graduating with four hundred thousand dollars in student debt. And you're telling me that it's okay for you to hate your first year in practice. That doesn't make any sense to me. So let's go over. What your your options really are. you do. Have some private practice options. You just need to go looking for them. You have to have a place where you can land. That's going to help you develop the skill. Set that you wanna develop so find a place that shares the way you want to practice. Find a dentist that you really respect you. Respect what they're doing both clinically. You respect the way they treat their staff. You respect the way they interact with their community. If you can find that how great would it be to go in and be an associate within that practice and potentially take it over someday. I'm hoping that some of them took my advice. I actually a couple that did and they were very successful at it. And when i heard about ada practice transitions. I thought this is an opportunity for me to make a difference in many young dentist lives and help them to find a place where they can be personally and financially successful. This group that you're talking about right. Now that's graduating howard. I can't even imagine how they are feeling as they're entering this either last year of dental school or they graduated and twenty twenty we all know that their clinical time was cut short and even the class now the schools have slowed down to the in order to follow the proper procedures and they are not getting the clinical skills that they would normally get so what we're trying to really promote is this whole idea of mentor ship and like you said many of these docs especially in. Maybe some smaller markets are saying. I'm done. I don't wanna go back to the office. Fulltime i am. I just don't want to deal with this anymore. And i'm ready to sell. So why not explore some new options for this group. Why not explore the options of true mentorship. The doctor the owner is may be backing away. And they're backing away at an accelerated rate and that younger doc is coming in and really taking over the entire practice but it's a delayed sale opportunity. Where maybe the sale doesn't happen for about two years. It really is the best of both worlds as long as both the incoming doctor and the owner doctor are really prepared to follow this through all the way to the end. And that's again one of the things that we really emphasize here. At eight hundred practice transitions and that is spell out. Everything in the beginning. Make sure that your ultimate goals are in alignment so that you can lay them out very clearly and on paper and then follow through. That is why. I asked you to come on the show. You didn't ask me Because the has a practice transition. And where i i became known it Was your article that. I post on town. What went wrong. Might transition fell through after months of planning by susan ebert vice president dental practice and relationship management So for my homies. The lucky ones are just commuting to work for an hour The poor bastard drawn a treadmill right now so Try to distract him. So they don't realize they're on a treadmill for an hour They can't read this but tell them about your blog. What went wrong. How did your transition full through after months of planning. And why did this motivate you to go help the ada Start this Eighty-eight practice transitions. Well there are a number of wh- what went wrong out there. Unfortunately i have my own personal. What went wrong. And then we have the one that you're referencing. I believe in the blog post and that is where a an incoming doctor or potential buyer was looking at a certain practice. They really wanted this practice and the owner didn't quite have everything in order so for about six months. This owner was trying to pull information from his accountant and from his books. And all of this is going on right before the pandemic hit the incoming doctor potential buyer got cold feet is really what ended up happening and thought that the practice now. It's not wealth run. It's not got what it takes to support them in their goal of personal and financial success and it just didn't work out could this have been avoided absolutely if the owner had had all of that paperwork in order ready to hand off to that potential buyer and a nice little package said. Okay here you go. That would've made this thing much easier. The financing would have gone through a lot faster and everybody would have had a successful transition so again one of the things that we really emphasize. And let me just say this did. This was not with one of my clients because what we emphasize is. Here's your list of documents you need to get in order. Have them ready. Have them ready to pass off. Make sure that your entirely ready for your transition whether you are an owner or you are a potential buyer. If you're a potential buyer make sure your financing is lined up. Make sure that you know exactly what you can and cannot afford. Make sure that your personal finances are one hundred percent solid. Make sure that you know what your credit score is. Talk to the banks first hand. Make sure that you have a couple of different banks that you're working with find the best deal. All of those things are so important to making sure that your transition successful. I don't wanna be that guy. I never forget when i watched the The movie documentary. Whatever on sesame street the two most famous characters are big bird and oscar and I had four kids. Watch all this turns out by the same guy. And he ruled sesame street forever then got beaten out by elmo later on the little red one and just why oscar. The grouch was so popular. Just kids love oskar i mean. It's a guy living in trash can. In fact they rejected the idea. I said well we can't have a man living in a trash can. This is that that's not right but because it reminded them of their grandpa some old grouchy in during this last election. How many how many times did some two year old watches grandpa yelling at the tv whether he was for this team or that team. I don't wanna be that guy. But i'm that guy me. My four kids have turned into six grandkids and i just think it was so much better in the eighties. When if you bought a practice the seller would finance. I mean the baby. You wouldn't just give your baby up to the highest bidder and then leave and never hear your baby me. He built his practice zone hands or his patients. He wanted to good guy and You would go in there. And he'd say okay. I'll salty for this Seven years Terms ten percent interest and And then that dentist say that bought the practice. It's really great because the guy selling has skin in the game so when he's working on a patient and he says oh my god. I really messed up on this patient. mrs ebert. And she's really mad then he would call you. You had a relationship with you. It was just much better. And now it's through a third person Banker and it's like. Just take the money and run. I i just i just think it should go back to that way. But that's not the way it is. And i know i'm oscar. The grouch need to shut the hell up but does the ada practice transitions. Do you have the bank source that you can always that they can default to if they don't have a personal banker ones One wants to do the deal can if they go through you. Can you always find him a banker that will do it. We can most certainly point them in the right direction And help them to understand what the terms are and we can also give them the incoming doctors kind of a list. Go to list of things that they need to have in order before they start this process. But i'd like to go back to your previous comment cross grouch. Oscar had a wife. But i might be that white shirt you like cookies absolutely and i love baking them for migrant children. I must say let me. Just tell you that what we wanted to do is bring some more of that idea of having the dentists participants participants in this process. That's what we want. That's our ultimate goal. We want our docs to talk to each other. We want them to have an open dialogue. About what their futures. Hold whether you're retiring or whether you're buying a practice you need to be able to provide continuity of care for those patients. And i think mourn worn now than ever if a practice is going to be successful. There has to be compatible philosophy of care. That's transferred from the owner to the buyer the buyer the owner. It has to be compatible. Everybody has to be able to work towards the ultimate goal of providing a great experience for those patients. And that's what makes a successful transition when i'm talking about personal and financial success. I'm talking about it for boats docks. I'm talking about it for the owner doc. Who can transfer out of that practice and understand that their patients and their staff and their communities are going to be taken care of because as you said. This is their legacy. It's their baby sometimes. It's a family legacy where their grandfather father started the practice for the incoming doctor. The new buyer. I mean come on. They have to be able to relate to that staff they have to be able to relate to those patients and if they can continue to provide a great experience or at least consistent experience for those patients the patients are going to stay and that has to be something that needs to be taken into consideration this going through a third party where you just need at the end of the sign. The contracts to me is ridiculous. There's no place for that. in dentistry. We are a relationship driven business and we need to make sure that we're taking our patients considerations count i know These are challenging times that you talked in your in your own bio says. Dr uber considers herself a clinical dennis. I and is unwavering and her desire to protect private practice dentistry. And the just like your parents. I mean you can't win or lose when kids upset and crying and hurt him when this pandemic broke out the first thing i told the president. Ada is a trust me. You're going to be the whipping boy for this. I mean they're you know when you when dennis close down for two months. They're not happy and when they're not happy they don't think the nicest sweetest things to say about their parents their mom and dad you. You've all seen that in your own family So but how can you say that And your desire to protect private practice dentistry if the fastest growing format in dentistry. Dso's in fact of those We had five thousand help wanted ads and it dropped down to one thousand. It was only eso's and and I think this pandemic has been the best thing for the brand of dso's Because a lot of dentists just didn't want to fight a pandemic head on. And i'm an arizona which is ground zero for dso's because governor ducey Pass a law that if you got an active license anywhere in the united states it's good in arizona and it was actually triggered because registered nurses. They were actually recruiting an ireland and it was easier to get an irish nurse a green card and flyer to zona to become a registered nurse into find one in oklahoma who didn't want to pass the boards whatever whatever but eighteen point six percent of arizona. Dennis worked for so and then yesterday out of nowhere. Bob fontana of aspen dental management. Just acquired clear choice. I mean th the these geysers steamroller but Is it politically correct or incorrect. For you to say that you are like me where you I want my grandchildren to go to a dentist and the dentist is working for an insurance company and some nba. Stalin them that he can do this or can't do that then. My granddaughter needs a dentist and she goes to another dentist and it's owned by wall street and they want profit dollars. I mean where's my grandchild getting go when she needs a dentist and i'm not talking about the my four grandchildren that are boys. I'm talking about my girls Evelyn and you know. We're evelyn taylor gonna go. If all the dentists sold out their means of production they no longer can work with their hands. And by the way every time there's an economic downturn the the people that come out on top are always the ones that owns their means of production because of there's runaway inflation because of your twenty three trillion dollars debt. They just raise their prices. But you know who's first to go is extra employees when their sales go down so when you sell out your means a production and go become an employee. That's all great when everything's good but trust me when things are bad you want to own your means of production but i'm just wondering how that works. Ada who like say during pandemic. they're not going to be able to do anything right. But how are you allowed to support. Unwavering support for private practice when the fastest growing business models. Dso well we can find places for these dentists to go number one. Let's think about some of the smaller markets. Let's talk about those for a second. The dso's aren't going to the smaller towns. Great point they. They're not real no absolutely not. They're not going there and think about how great some of those practices are you have patients who wants to be there because your potentially the only denison town you have a very low purchase price from an existing doctor who selling the practice. What does that equal to. Gosh you have a payback on that loan sometimes as little as a year and a half to two years and you can be the full owner no debt on that practice you have a lower cost of living in those smaller towns you can live like a king or queen and guess. What if you wanna travel. You can travel even if you're not next to a major airport go by playing because you have in many cases unlimited income potential in those smaller towns. So let's talk about all of those small town dinosaur there and the wonderful opportunity that exists for some of these docks who are sick of the hustle and bustle and the marketing costs. That are involved with trying to stay afloat in some of these larger markets in the urban areas. Let's talk about the way how nice it is to raise a family in an area where you don't have to worry about them walking outside the door. Think about all those advantages. There's a wonderful opportunity out there for these younger. Docs if they would just open their minds to exploring them. That was that was brilliant. You to shade me if there ever was a touche on this show you save me. Because it's obvious they they will not go to rural. So that's were half of america. Is i mean. I was born in wichita kansas You know i. I'm i'm familiar with The fly over states You know you watch the news and everything only happens on the coast right and in fact over here in arizona were so jealous of florida. I mean we're the florida of the west. How come no one ever talks about arizona. We're just as crazy as florida. Which by the way only seems crazy because they have the only transparent criminal justice data so all journalists can Mine their data. Where other states they mine. The data But yeah they're not going to roll. Because the millennials you know they. They're getting married a decade later than they were in in the nineteen forties. You know it's gone from you. Know basically You know like sixteen to seventeen all the way to twenty six twenty seven. They're single they have. They like their their star bucks and mocha's and whatever they do and they're not going to rule and the these dso's. I mean you go back ten years. A lot of them You know that had time to get to five hundred offices on any given day. They could have twenty rural practices. Not staff with a dentist and they're done and so so you're right so half of america you just said brilliantly is never going to go dsl and in the The the half living in the metro. They're certainly not going to take the whole market so independent practice as the The advantage but i was but i was wondering about this about another question about the ada. This space was really branded. You know fifty years ago. I don't wanna say. I wanna make alan thornburgh. Fill to too old but you know. Apcoa and associates afc coast and for allan f. to lemberg and he started this a gazillion years ago and he had a a model that was very efficient but the lawyers didn't like and that was he didn't want to have to lawyers fighting over the price so he said look. We're going to get this done. We're going to have his lawyer represent both parties and get it done. Every attorney will tell you well then who's representing you. You have to have the lawyer representing you and alan was like. Forget it you know. You can't get to dennis to agree on anything. You can't get to dennis to agree. On a bonding agent How the hell you gonna get them to agree on financial terms. But what i makes me wonder. Is we know how. Allen started it dual representation. Let's get her done. So what was the ada. What did you think. What did you guys have that you thought was so unique to practice. Transitions and valuation. This deal where you thought you guys at the could have a unique valuable approach this. We're well how were you seeing it. Well one of the most important things that we're approaching this a little bit differently. Instead of talking i the valuation. What we're talking about. I is are the dennis compatible. And i've talked about that a little bit before but that's where we start we start with. Is this the right place for you. If it's the right place then let's start talking about the other details that go into it so we start with an online profile. It's pretty extensive. And we've been called the match dot com for dentists. I'm kinda sorta okay with that. But i prefer master matchmakers because we behind the scenes go through and up these profiles and we matched them up on the philosophy of care so we only put together dentists who have the ability to communicate with each other and then we act as facilitators for that conversation. We're not negotiating for the dennis. We expect and this is what i talked about earlier. We expect dentist to take ownership of this process. Because then it's going to be successful. We found that most of our owner docs wanted to. They want somebody who's going to continue their legacy. That's what they want so they have to be involved in the process if they wanna have success there so we give the dentists buried. Concrete things to discuss we give them toolkits and worksheets and guides discussion guides. And we're there facilitators for that conversation. So they may not be able to agree onto on the bonding agent. And that's okay but you know what they're having no problem really agreeing on the purchase price. They're not having a problem at green. How to handle the accounts receivable. They're not having that problem because they already have a relationship with each other. Because another thing about denis's. They're not very confrontational star advantage you. Dennis aren't very confrontational. Dennis are computational in certain situations but in one on one they're generally not one on one. I i love him. But my god when when it's eleven o'clock at night and they're drinking and they're behind a screen and they don't have that one hundred million years of bio- biological evolution where you have more muscles in your face then you do blow. You know your your your hips and core. I mean I mean that's why emojis became so serious. Because you know if the person was joking at this that the typos go up on dental town. I can just read the posts until you Was his early morning sober on coffee or is this drunk bastard. Eleven o'clock you know barking at the moon and the typos. Goff to deal. So that is the weird thing about social media people. Forget that there's a human being sitting on the other side. And what's funny is all all call dennis on their own bullshitting you day of the week Because i'm not here to be their friend. I'm the hair to be their grandfather to tell him. You know this is real world but my gosh they on dental town when they get bad real yelp review. They almost have a complete meltdown. You know it's like you have to walk them off the legends like dude three posts ago. You said this company's product was a bunch of shit. I mean i mean my you know what what what's with. How can this patient said this. You're almost jump out the window but then you just call the dental company a piece of shit. I mean you know so. I still think we're evolving through this social media thing and and it just really really helps. I wish everybody had donald town would be transparent and put the real name and face. The only reason we can't do that is because the mother of my mother. Dennis role a christian and she Scorn lee told me howard if you do that where are my dentist when they need to ask a stupid question. If you're ended honest you're not gonna post a failed route down. First of all your referrals will be held against. She goes if you take away their place to privately. Ask a stupid question You're you're it's a disservice dentistry so You know since rela will probably outlive me by a decade All good clean living That's the way it is but they just Dennis are great in the face and behind the monitor. Sometimes you need to be taken out to the woodshed You know Just crease times but So match me that profile. I've seen that on the so so her website is ada practice transitions dot com and you create a free profile I can't actually create a profile because the last one i filled out was on plenty of fish and i got denied. They said dude. You're awale get the hell off here lose fifty pounds So i'll have all this trauma if i fill out a new profile again but the ones i've seen go south. This is were the ones i've seen. Go south i mean in a nutshell Dr i'm presents all these amazing cases knees every friday's doing some big five times thousand dollar case or whatever and the new guy looks at the big cases. I can do all that skill. Oh yeah sure you can but can you sell it. It's one hundred times harder. South a twenty five thousand dollar ks than it is to do. All the individual crowns and bridges and house and all that kind of stuff can't sell it so they'll buy some practice that's doing like one point four and they'll pay like one point two and at the end of the first year that thing didn't even do eight hundred so i mean so they didn't have the skill set so then what's the opposite of that or though by practice where doctored all of his own molar indo at thousand bucks a piece. But doc doesn't like endo wall did you back out every damn root canal out of the cells. Did you just pay for the right to do canals for them out. So then you flip that around. Where's the biggest value. I mean mike vitale. And i used to laugher butts off forever of how this one of our friends bought this practice from this old guy. All he did was amalgams. He didn't do he just patched everything. There's young didn't even know it just walks into this four day week. Practice from the seventy seven year old guy sal and who'd made all these emo dbl's for like forty years and on any given random day three or four those who just break into a million pieces and come in and he would just numb them up and do a crown and he was doing four crowns every single day. Monday through thursday unlimited. And just like my god. I mean any paid this practice. I mean when you know the average frogs right now is about seven fifty back in the day this was like two hundred eighty five thousand dollar practices just a know nothing bottom to your practice and it was just the biggest cash cow of all time. And that's what you need to do. So you go find a practice. And he says i do a dollar a year and then you look at the numbers. Say oh will you refer out all your root canals. Which i can do or are. I can extract teather. I can do dentures. Or i'm going to add him. This liner something. So if you're make sure you're paying for dental services that you can do and don't be buying the right to do dental services that you can't do. It's a so obvious but since the buyer didn't have skin in the game he didn't carry took the money and run. And i just i just don't think it's right. Well that's one of the reasons that we have a full clinical evaluation sheet. So we encourage the docks you look at the charts. We as part of the profile we actually ask about referral patterns. And that's one of the first things that we look at when we're saying. Is this going to be a good fit an often. What we're looking for is an incoming doctor who can provide services that the owner doc is now providing And we absolutely have a nice little checklist. You know that advises the incoming doctor how to evaluate the operations of the practice and then they can take that and put that into their own skill. Set and figure out whether this is something. That's going to work for them. Obviously if a practice is doing forty percent. Ip stations and this incoming doctor is not doing ibiza. dacians that's going to be an instant hit to the bottom line so that's one of those big red flags pops up shea. Happy thought about this. Let's take a closer look and see if this is the right place for you. Now we can evaluate a lot of that behind the scenes so we can immediately discount some of those things and say. Hey you know you might want to take a look at this practice but here are the things that you're going to want to evaluate a little bit more closely to see if this is the right place for you. If everything else is lining up properly again it comes back to these doctors communicating and really taking the time to evaluate. I is at a fee right. Does that work out yes great. Now let's talk about the operations of the practice before we invest a whole ton of money and accountants and lawyers and everything else. Let's just find out whether the operations fit. And i can come in and be successful in your practice if i can. Yes now i want to see all the numbers. I need to make sure that. I have all the information that i need. So that i can make an offer on your practice so guiding them through this process will alleviate a lot of those things that you're talking about so how much of this i mean You know. I i use. I look at it like having dental partner buying a practice. I mean the the best analogy is your parents marriage or marriage things like that. You know you don't you don't go meet somebody on a first date and marry them But you know So what percent of these again. My main concern is these kids. Come out of school. How many of these kids out of school. How long would be Dating period of they said well. I want to own practice. I fill out a profile. And and yeah. I would like to really think about buying this whole bands practice in this small town in kansas But but i don't want to commit to anything like that. I mean how. Have you met you. I wanna date. How long is that a good strategy to get an associate's job. And how long would it eating period be before i'm the seller and said you know. Let's kind of start writing a prenuptial. Let's let's start heading down the road towards marriage pre-nup needs to be in place fairly quickly because what we don't want to see happen and this is what we see happen. All too often is the associate comes into the practice with the understanding that there's going to be a transfer of ownership okay now. This doesn't work. This can work in either direction the owner then decides that. Hey you know what. I kind of like the way things are going. Yeah you will will do an ownership transfer in a couple of years. Yeah i think. I'm gonna retire next year. Maybe the year after that. Maybe the year after that all the sudden. It's ten years down the road. so that's one scenario. The other scenario is the associate comes in the owner. Thinks that yeah. We're going to transfer ownership and i'm going to retire in three years or five years but then the associate says hey. I kind of like being an associate this practice. I don't think i want to own now. The owner says. I don't know what to do. I'm i'm high and dry was counting on this. So what we encourage people to do is consider all of these things up front and again. We're talking about understanding your long term goals and by understanding what you're looking for out of your transition. You can help to avoid a lot of these problems. But if you don't get it in writing in plan for the future in writing than you are just opening yourself up to one of these scenarios so we encourage people as an associate coming into a practice especially a new grad. We have the conversation up front and say okay dr owner. What are your plans here. Are you willing to put those plans in writing. You're not committing to anything. You're just putting your plans in writing. dr incoming. Are you looking to eventually had ownership in this practice. The can you see yourself in that practice. If those two things are a yes and they've met and they've evaluated operations and they've made the decision they yes we want to give this a try great. Let's drop in associated contract within that contract. Let's have a six month review clause at that six month period. You're gonna talk again about this whole ownership thing and at one year in you want to make a decision and that decision has to be dr. Incoming argue going to buy this practice if you are. Here's how we're going to lay it out where either gonna do staged by in order to complete buy in. I'm going to be your associate. There are a number of different options at that point but make that decision and put it in writing and then when it is in writing after that one year. Make sure that there are. There's a penalty for an exit at that point. Ever come into play but if it does at least you have it you know. I grew up on judge wapner. And i'm sure you remember Judge wapner and i don't know how you could grow up listening to judge wapner on have your damn receipt. I mean people would always say some well blah blah blah blah. And he says. Okay show me. I mean i mean in fact watching judge wapner. Mike glove box. I used to just that was just a trash can for receipts and sure enough. You know once a year you'd have to dig through all that trash because you actually needed a damn receipt. And so you know you go talk to dennis in your lunch and at dinner. And he says he wants to sell next year and then like say. It goes the next year the next year the next year and what i think is that people don't understand how much money it takes to retire to maintain doctors a lifestyle and when they get close to pulling the trigger and they think well my cars old and the wife wants to do this only and then their kids might need something and one thing about life after another and it just they just keep kicking the can down the road Is it more that you also talked about the associate who doesn't want to pull the trigger. Works is more is at eighty twenty at fifty fifty do see more seller staying on longer than they realized or. Do you see more kids not wanting to pull the trigger. I would say that it's sixty forty towards the owners. Sixty forty john towards the owner staying being the problem there. Yeah the owners are. They can be a little bit challenging. Sometimes because they're not sure what to do and what we do for them. Is we make sure from the outset that we had a conversation to say. Hey you know. Have you really thought this all the way through. What are your plans for retirement. Do you have the financial wherewithal to continue down this path. Now have you explored other options. I mean once you retired from your dental practice there are other ways to stay involved in dentistry and make some money. There's so many other options out there. Do you want to stay on as an associate to the owner. The new owner. That's always an option. So there are ways to navigate this but every single doctor has their own agenda. And it's our job to figure out what that agenda is and again. I think that's where our profile has a lot of value. It helps people to start thinking about. What really are my long long-term goals how can i achieve them. And the way that makes the most sense. Yeah and My guy this The these Financing terms might talk to bankers. They say well. One of their problems is they had all these rules of thumb. They had all these metrics. These metrics are actually written down in their banks and and a you know based on the purchase practices to trailing twelve months. But you've been closed. You were closed down two months and that's a big donut. I mean two months at a twelve. I mean you just too divided by twelve hell. You were close sixteen point six six six percent of the month so a lot of these cars are kicking the these loans upstairs and saying well. I'm good with this loan. I wanna go. Everybody wants to pull the trigger. But our bank has this metric and it's not accounting for two donuts in the month of march and april now that march and april is now seven eight months ago is starting to change or they getting new metrics. Are you seen some of these deals. Starting to break loose from the What what do they call it alone. Guys the banker at underwriters the underwriters and the underwriters. I'm there like actuaries. They don't have enough personality to become an account timing. These people are numbers driven. So are the underwriters are they. They got some post corona metrics now or they still pre corona trying to figure that out so that has absolutely been a challenge which is why we're encouraging our owners to go back and start considering taking on seller note at least for a small percentage of the loan. Dental offices are back to about seventy eight percent at this point maybe close to closer to eighty from the latest data latest research. That came out. So we're getting there. We're getting back to one hundred percent. I don't know how long it's going to be before we get there. So that by itself is reducing. The banks Tolerance to loan one hundred percent of the practice value. So if the owner is kinda dead set this is my number. And i'm not budging on it. Then they may have start being more willing to do some seller assist on the financing. And that's something that we're just having to make real really very clear and i'm going to go back and just kinda let chan on this. The smaller market practices are doing much better overall. At least from what i can see. They are now hiring associates again. They are at a hundred percent production. And they're doing just fine. But i mean i. I know i'm going to be politically correct. Not talking about Sacks violence rock and roll i kind of stuff but it seems like the only people that will go to a small town is when they come out of school and they're married if you've already got your wife and your kid you don't need the bar scene in scottsdale and my gosh and who usually comes out of dental school most likely married with one kid walking and one in the oven. I know i don't want okay i. I started school with two children so really dirty so it's were one and two when i started dental school. Yes sir i. I had owned a business prior to my starting dental school Yeah that was. That was a journey into went through four years of dental school so they were five and six. When i graduated which is why when i graduated i looked at my husband and i said okay. We're in louisville kentucky which is kind of gray in the winter. And i said they're gonna go north. Where winter is winter or we're going to go south where we don't have to worry about it. He says there's no way we're going north instead. Okay yes we're going south. So that's how ended up in florida. Yeah and it's at. Mississippi river is everybody east of it goes to florida and everyone west of the goes to arizona and you need to realize human behavior because something like that you just think whatever. It's not really deal. No it's really a deal. And like when i've been in all with two for thirty two years and you have an interstate and there's a whole nother city on the other side and people just that interstate. It might as well be a wall one hundred miles high when you look at your date of your patients. In fact they'll drive from five miles west into my practice and almost no one drives from one mile east into the practice. Humans don't cross rivers and interstates and and all these things and you really got to get into. I'm going to ask you to politically incorrect questions. some people say and and i know expertise to comment on this even though i grew up. Five sisters and bleed barbie dolls. I was twelve that one of the things changing industry. The most of the demographics from basically being all boys club to now have one and a half boys and a lot of people are saying that is driving and dso's because to thirty two out of every three of their employees. Dennis are female. You're a female. Do you think women are more likely to want to say I'd rather just beat employing and concentrate on my family or do you think that's just a a bad rap. I think that's a bad rap for a number of reasons number one if you want to be a hands on mother if you want to be there for your child at their at their Goodness it was a mommy and me tea tasting party. If you wanna be their last minute for your kids you need to own your own practice. You need to have the ability to control your own schedule. You can grow that practice in whatever direction you want. You take the reins you take ownership of it. Most of the dennis who graduate from dental school are still interested ownership. And that's like sixty or percent. Believe at last check. Oh i haven't seen any numbers on that. Where where did you get that number from. Hp oh not me howard to dental town dot com or downtown. I i've seen that number. So it's two out of three women. Women are total student. I'm talking about total students but the class sizes are fifty fifty. So i just know from my experience in talking with female dennis. I will tell you a lot of ago into it with the idea that okay. I can't own my own practice. Because i want to be a hands on mother. I want to be a hands on wife. I want to have that opportunity. What i see is that i have more and more women coming onto our service. Where saying. I need to own my own practice because i wanna be a hands on mother. I wanna have that opportunity to be there for my family. And i want to have control over how i treat my patients so women i have to disagree with you about your Feeling or your thought that women are not interested in ownership. It's not been my experience and it certainly isn't with the dennis that i've been talking to on a very regular basis that that's awesome. I love to see it when women on their own practice. I actually love it the most when they get divorced and have to pay some punk eight thousand dollars a month alimony for ten years. How does that feel you like that is so awesome to see women dentists just pitching about alimony site. Yeah i know it's a racket. Why don't you get rid of it. Used to be an all male staying. And i'm just loving these women to if you're paying ten thousand dollars a month to some bomb Email me howard at ten dental dot com. And i'll bring you on the show and talk about it because because that's what's gonna make your body change. is a total total racket but Yeah i i go back to my class. There are twenty women dennison their those twenty women their average practice was significantly bigger and more successful and those girls pretty much all them already retired now and i got a lot of classmates that are really pissed off the they passed sixty and now they're in a pandemic and they did they can't retire mostly because of alimony and things like that and i am. I just think these these are strange time. I wanted to see another very very politically incorrect question. I told you the beginning. That That when your kids are in a bad spot. They're not going to be real friendly. They're they're they're they're in a bad mood. Their their kids are tired. They need to nap the they need a better situation. And there's a big old threat on dental town said a quit the ada and it's all based on the fact that the that we had to close down for two months and you know it was a novell virus. That's what all the experts are saying. You know we had a. We're all in this together. One species is all we got. But what would your spin on all those people that are really pissed off and by the way those people were extremely happy when it was the Joshua tran osowski. Dm d- president new hampshire dental society. Said don't close the door for two months in march. And they won't do it again and everybody's on dental dongo. Yeah joshua you go joshua so the new hampshire dental cy. I mean they're they're in the process. I mean it was on. It was on their their newspaper. So the new hampshire saying they're. They're not doing it again. What's going to happen if the government Well first of all do you think we'll talk about the issue. Does just talk about the whole issue because it's a big blight and it is and it's really too bad. Well i take that. Maybe it's not too bad. Dennis are giving the american dental association way more credit enabled to establish federal policy than they deserve the. Ada did not shutdown dental offices. That is not the way this works. The state's shut down the dental offices. There were some states that never shut down the dental offices. Wet what the aba did is what the bay went to bat and said hey these are essential workers. The aba is the one who who lobbied to get dennis designated as essential workers so now that they are essential workers. They can't shut down and less. The state says essential workers are shut down which they're not gonna do so. The ada is trying to protect the dennis and doing whatever they can do that. I have i admit freely. I was one of those people who sat my office for eleven years. Thirteen years paid my dental and paid my dental association. Dues didn't have any clue what the american dental association did for me. Just paid my dues. I was one of those people after. I sold my practice and i had to do to some health things a hell health issues. I went to work at a federally qualified health center. Because i really love dentistry. And i'm really have a passion for serving people and everybody deserves to have access to care. At that point. I started getting involved with the dental association. I started getting involved in lobbying. I started getting. I started seeing the things that they actually did. And i was very impressed. I was impressed enough to spend a lot of time with the florida dental association and by the way have to have that shoutout to caesar to go but come on. The american dental association did not shut dentistry down. The american dental association did everything they could to get dentist back up and running that gave them they talked to the national leadership and said hey you know let's get policies in place so that you feel comfortable in your state allowing these dentist to come back to work it. American dental associated did everything they could and they had to be conscious up the climate as it existed in that moment nobody knew what to do in those first couple of months. They did the best they could That is a Well well well said. I mean Yeah the the. And furthermore the centers for disease control that floated the idea i. The centers for disease control wanted To go in the end in the world health organization and again it was a novel virus. I mean it was a brand new virus so people didn't really Know what to do and Do you think there's I saw But i love the irony of dennis. I mean Gordon was always telling me about that He said my. Gosh you know i remember. One time. he was out here in scottsdale. He had like five hundred thousand people and he was showing this case. I think was about an clear liners and immediately the whole world The four by custom extraction was an atrocity and the collusion and the everything he was trying to teach just drifted in a whole another direction. Because my home he's got eight years of college. i mean they got easing math applied. Math is physics applied physics biology chemistry applied chemistry biology. I mean they got their masters and all the tools to tackle any subject. And like this mask thing. I thought i was talking to well. Why would you be against a mask ballsy. Because if they want to force me to wear a mass dude cigarettes kill four hundred thousand americans a year. You stop selling cigarettes all where the masks. But i'm not gonna wear a mask while that dummy over there. Is smoking a cigarette. So you know. Kim god that's just that's the way dentists. Thank i mean. Obviously tobacco is gonna kill more people during the pandemic in america. The coronavirus i mean. Can we agree on that. Yeah so i have to wear a mask inside a store that sells cigarettes rally. So you know so but then the the the opposite side of that is never let better be the enemy. Never let best be the enemy of better so yeah but k making them wear a mask. Imagine if you took their tobacco way you're in florida. What would happen to florida is there is no skull chewing tobacco to be sold anywhere in the state of florida or even worse. Think about kentucky. Oh it'd be. It'd be an uprising. I mean they would march to the capitol and it'd be over so i love the way dennis think about this stuff but i i think i really think i've been a big. I've been watching the emergency room numbers ever since i've The days available that eight and a half percent of all the tooth aches. Our emergency room visits or dont'a genyk origin in my state of arizona. And my gosh just makes me feel bad. I mean what is wrong with dentistry where were responsible for. Not triaging and taking care of eight and a half percent of the load at the hospitals and by the way in thirty two years. I've seen some bizarre stuff. I had a patient one time. Walk in with a two foot by one and a half foot. Ray of the side and a script for penn vk and pirka because of of a swelling and infection. I'm like they just irradiated. Your whole upper towards i mean just crazy but so if the pandemic breaks out and the hospitals are overloaded. You'd have to be insane to even think about shutting down the dental offices if you knew they would triage and keep patients out of the emergency room but they have no history of that. I mean i got ten years date in arizona. Where the i mean if you said well we gotta keep open because we want to overload the emergency like dude. You've been doing it for ten years. What's going to all the sudden. Make you start giving your cell phone number to your patients and and being able to go in. After hours or their held their close. Friday saturday and sunday their close three out of seven weeks. In fact the average dentist is only open thirty two hours a week and there's one hundred and sixty hours a week. They're not even open their closed. Eighty one percent of the time and the emergency rooms always open. So how do you. How do you look at that scenario. It's funny that you should bring up e. r. diversion. It was one of the things that i was pretty passionate about here in florida when i was the dental director for the f. Uhc and i will tell you that after beating my head against a brick wall for a very long number of years. We finally got the hospital to give us a bouchier system for we got one hundred dollars from the hospital for the patients that we would see from the emergency room. We ended up hall. Gosh i wish. I had all the data in front of me but we saved the hospital in one year over five hundred thousand dollars just by seeing their patients for them and giving them the opportunity to come to one of the federally qualified health centers. That's kind of an easy answer. But why are the real problem is the hospitals. Aren't recognizing that the dentist needs to be their partners in this. There are a number of dentists like me out there who went into who are been beating their heads against a brick wall Jane grover is kind of the head of that whole thing over the ada the diversion programs and she's got so many different plans to be able to handle some of that overload and it's the hospitals that are really kind of the the hold up there. The dennis are more than willing to be active participants in this. We'll hey tell. Gene share wants to come on and talk about it. I wish you talk about because you would have to be absolutely out of your mind to think that the ten year track record of it being eight and a half percent That human behavior doesn't change that overnight. It's like it's like when they started the no smoking campaign when they started it. I mean america. The government started this problem when they start giving us six million troops overseas. They start lashing. I'm a pack. A day will when they came back from war to guess what they were addicted to nicotine so to me when the government sued them and wanted. This law seems like dude. You started the whole smoking epidemic. And based on the fact that the journalist are and there's no journalists in the united states. I mean reading on chomsky's book manufacturing consent. It's been when they say they're not biased. I mean come on lately someone say oh so. You're not by really they all cry. They all bawling on tv when democrat loses. And they're not biased. How out of your flip mind are you. I mean i mean i mean they they. They can't even compose themselves there. I mean if you're a journalist bowling on television quit your job today. Because i don't want to get to know you or your bullshit. I just wanna know the fax. The government started the deal. Which is a ge you know. All these lawyers want to sue ge for all these chemicals dumped in the river they were all made during world war two and there's a ton of letters written to the president of the united states and the five star general saying well. If we make all this stuff what are we do with this and there. It isn't litter just dump it in the potomac. You're in the middle of a war. You're getting bombed from hiroshima tanaka saw. I mean it's a horrible thing going on and no one was carrying about the tadpoles and the potomac at that time so it's a nice luxury fifty years later To sit there and say we want you to clean it all up and all this stuff. People are complex. These are very very strange times. I can't believe we went over an hour. But yeah i. I'd like to have jingu over on if she's headed the diversion american dental association. Because we're still going to have this problem in ten years. I know my home say. They're closed friday. Saturday sunday they specifically did not wanna be a physician at a hospital in work. Those hours i mean hell. California had to pass a law. That medical doctor residencies could not work over a hundred hours a week because they were falling asleep during surgery. Have you ever even heard of one dentist. Since peer for shard that ever worked one hundred hours in one week. Yeah california's to write a wall to ban that with physician. My my homeys They went to the medical school country club dentistry thing and they're not working evenings and weekends and if i was going to start i have been in small towns. I have walked into the urgent care. I've walked in there with my grandchildren. And i talked to the guy in baz romney's yeah there and i said well what are some came out school and would you give him some space for free for him to set up a dental office. So that at your triaging say oh. That's dental related. Just go down the hall. The last door turn laugh and he said hell. Yes and i've had other dentists that i'm couldn't get a loan or whatever they're going to small towns like eleven percent of the towns in the midwest. Dennis and they've actually gone to the mayor of that town. The mayor of the town says wall at downtown i remain. We only have one light in this town. They're six buildings boarded up. I'll give you a damn building and if you're going to set up a dental office there. We only have one bacon town. He'll give a signature loan and the only people that do it. How i can politically correct this. But they're mormon their lds. They have a family. They already have kids. They go to that small town. They're the only dentist town. They get a building for free. They get all they get a signature loan and the first year. They're they're doing a million to take it home. Four hundred. Everybody in that town thinks ten dollars an hour's the best job in the world so as labour's only always below twenty percent total costs their net. Income is always over fifty percent. But i get it some people say well. I'd rather die than live in a town But you're almost to driverless cars. I mean i'm in phoenix were. Google did their their pilot work for five years. We've had the driverless cars. We've all seen him in humans. When the biggest episodes they had problems at his people. Throwing rocks adam. You know my monkeys. They don't they. Don't like a car without a driver scared him and the throw rocks adam them all words down but and then what's another thing. That's totally irrational. Because when you're talking about something irrational irrational. Like a lot of you'll say well let's say there is a thousand people dying a day. You wouldn't close down the country for one thousand people a day at there's three hundred and thirty five million. I said well look plane flying. I mean i mean last year. Like only one guy died in a commercial airfli- on a southwest airlines flight or little piece fav engine cracked winona sectors had out. Most humans like may just compensate it. We'd just said all right. I don't want a window seat. I'll just move to the. I'll i'll row. I mean big deal or just sit in front of the problem solve but imagine if to fully loaded jumbo jets were falling out of the sky every day in america and killed the same number thousand but my my humans my homo sapiens. My monkeys who lost their tail saw two jumbo jets falls sky. How do you think you'd take him to close down all the airports eight seconds so when they don't see it firsthand if they can't feel it and sense it they just don't get it but i'm telling you if i was going to start. Dso it'd be emergency room. Eso and i and every hostile. I've talked to there. it's just culture. Why can they remove a tumor out of your brain. Do a bypass and amputate your diabetic foot. But they can't pull a first molar or do a root canal and makes zero sense. It's totally just culture. And and by the way there is some lack of culture in arizona. I was actually upset. Yes say walmart A lady was wearing her christmas pajamas to walmart before thanksgiving. You just don't do that. You don't wear your christmas pajamas to walmart till after thanksgiving house some class arizona. My god but One other thing i want to ask you about is Sometimes the hardest thing to do with the human. I mean satisfaction equals perception of what's happening minus water expected and the hardest thing to do with the human change your expectations and i'm trying to sell some of these kids. I know you sign up for dental school. Your dream job. All that kind of separate were in the middle of a once. A century pandemic. Maybe you should change your perception and get a job at. What do you call. F h cues that what they're called. Fqhc talk talk about that that maybe there's other alternatives and maybe there's other things you can do right now during a once in a century pandemic that. Maybe you weren't thinking about when you up for dental school. Well there's a big perception. There that public health ministry is inferior. That it's a poor working conditions. There are a lot of perceptions out there when you say the words public health. And i am going to admit to having had some of those perceptions tell you my practice was quite high end and i most of my patients were. Ceo's in their wives in pontypridd beach. When i went to the fqhc commitment at that point and at that moment was i am going to have this population. The exact same care that. I gave to my ceos and my wife's of the ceo's. And i am proud to say that. I would pit the dentistry that was done during my tenure there and goes on today because i know who took it over. I could put it against any dentist in the area because we paid attention to quality. We had some of the advantages of working at a public health. You have set working hours. There's little to no call. You have a guaranteed paycheck. You have the ability to provide care however you want to. As long as you're in the right situation there are a number of fqhc's that give their dentist pretty much free rein to do dentistry. However they want. I was sort pullback reconstructions. At the on homeless people the patients can are expected to pay a very small amount that small amount represents a huge chunk to them. It's an opportunity to change the way people think about every one of the most gratifying moments was when we finished with one young lady and she said my children since i started this process have brush their teeth twice a day and floss every day since i started this and they now are in a habit because that happened over. If it took a long time to get the treatment completed they have habits now that they can take with them so we're changing the mindset of an entire population. That's a pretty special thing and it's one heck of a of a moment for a dentist. Who just wants to help people so many opportunities exist out there like that. Don't discount does you have to search a little bit sometimes and you've got to find just the right situation for you and your needs but there are so many opportunities so i would encourage a lot of these younger down especially now who are really searching for something. Different and changing their perception go up to public health. There are a lot of advantages there and a lot of really great opportunities. And i just wanna say one thing about expectations. I mean i totally love anthropology because the teeth lasts longest and they always have the most evidence is dental relate. i love you obviously. All animals want their own nasa. I mean look at woodpeckers and they're beaten his beaker into that tree because he wants safety wants his own hole and you let your. I got four dogs. Let him out in the morning. They you know they go and mark their territory and this true you know i get that and you want to own your own place and a lot of you want to go back to that That small town and you own your own practice and you don't want to buy somebody else's okay. I get it. But there's this little thing he might not have heard about Cold wall street that is completely built on mergers and acquisitions which is why if you look at the five hundred publicly traded companies in the year two thousand already half of them don't even exist anymore when i got out of high school the average age of the p five hundred was the grandfather was over sixty Now that i'm almost sixty. The average age of fortune. Five hundred company isn't even a teenager and by the time you're as old as me the average company won't even be ten years old and you go into the small town and you want to set up your own practice. And there's some old guy selling so the town's got two thousand ten thousand people and there's ten dennis and this old guy selling you want to build your own so now there was ten. You build your own now. There's eleven and then old man sells to young kid. And now you're competing with a high energy doc in their twenties or thirties. That's just that's just not how wall street would would do it. They would buy out that old man. Because now gone from ten and every time i've ever found in matt a dentist collecting three or four million dollars. It's only that strategy. I've not seen another strategy. Why came here. There were eight dentist and about every five years. Some old guy retires and now the town only got three dentists and of the phi that i bought. Almost all of them stayed part time one day a week to sometimes two days a week and then something would happen in their life financially and they'd bump it up to four days a week and i mean they just own this town do mergers and acquisitions. That's what that's why Bob fontana just clear choice because he didn't have to go set up a whole chain of implants centers across the nation. He just buys it and by the way this is going to go on for ever. I just wanted on dental town under practice transitions It's a real active part. It's broken up into Associates corner future planning life after dentistry partnerships and associates practice acquisitions cells practice startups retirement planning and then life after retired dennis. Which by the way the most active dennis on dental tan are the ones that retired because they sold their practice. But i mean they didn't own a restaurant. I mean when you own a restaurant. Your personal identity isn't a baker but a dentist they. They sell their dental office. Everybody so-called them docks so go to the ce events. I mean. I can't tell you how many times i'm lecturing and i find out the guy sitting in the front row sold five years ago but he's a dentist so just final question. I know we went into overtime and you got better things to do than yak with me all day but for that old man. That's planning on selling his practice and retiring sooner rather than later. He's not on instagram. He's not on snapchat and he wants a return on like real estate. It's a fact that if you go fix up your home in arizona and put it in a brand new swimming pool you're not gonna get that swing pool back out of the purchase price on the swimming pool and so docs thinking i you know. I would not want to invest a dollar fixing up this old thing to sell. If i didn't at least get the dollar back at a bare minimum and it'd be nice maybe get a bucket and quarter a buck and a half. Is there any advice. You have to old senile dentists who are thinking about laying down their drone retiring of what they could do to increase the value of their practice. In the eyes of young millennials. Yes and i will make this short and sweet. The one thing that the new generation of dennis seems to value as the number one indicator of whether they will or will not fit into a practice as far as technology goes is digital radiography. They all seem that seems to be the number one determinant of whether they will even look at a practice. It could have. If you don't even have that then you better be a really good area and you better have some kind of other draws that these docs can can look too. you know. that's so funny because my oldest grandchild Turned thirteen and he asked you day What this room was for. And i had to tell him. It was a dark room and he said well. What does the dr grow. I'd explain to him how it started off. We were dipping them in liquids and then when the eighty two thousand came out and automated the dipping man that was the greatest thing in the world. I i still think the two thousand was the greatest thing that ever happened dentistry. And and the cbc t is a bunch of crap compared to win the pano that software upload and they put are on the right side and al on the left and all your patients could see the right and the last thing anybody could read. Is that right side. Hell yeah homie. I mean that. So i'll take the right left pair now in the two thousand but So you're saying digital radiography I agree and and you guys all i want to say. Is this At the end of the day you know peer for chard was the first one that got the barber surgeons to give up cutting hair. And let's do this teeth thing full-time than one hundred years later we had. jv black. and then when i got out of school actually met a dentist who practice outside in saint joe missouri and when i asked him what was the greatest thing about the great depression he said well you know because he graduated in twenty seven. I said oh man that must suck as twenty nine. Wasn't a good year and he goes well. Twenty nine wasn't a good year for wall street but we didn't know about that. I mean that was wall street all the way till thirty two to trickle down to the mid west and we. We suffered the depression thirty to thirty six. But he says best damn vein have dentistry because We never afford to go inside but when everything went bankrupt and boarded up and closed up. Finally the mayors. Like we'll just on board these things and let these guys go inside hell's winter outside and here's a boarded up building. You can still do that today. In twenty twenty every small town. I've ever driven through has boarded up buildings. And and what. Dr rue telling me that when they moved inside they all kind of had a pack among cells that they were going to give up the barbara side. They were just going to go in and do straight standup dentistry. And you wanna get your haircut. You can go somewhere else. I mean so you know. There's just think outside the box but the bottom line is i. Don't care if you're a. Dso private practice a dental insurance company. A dental manufa. I don't care who you are. you're a top line. Those are all the numerator and they're all divided by one denominator the patient. And if you don't keep one eye on the patient and one. I in cost than eight billion. Humans are not going to have the freedom to afford to go to the dentist and you only became a dentist to help your patient and the whole industry starts when a human gives a dentist a dollar to fix something in their mouth and it's all about the patient and the value chain work so well together at intel and motorola whenever you're dealing talking with somebody higher up in another industry the whole value chain courts each other dates each other shares in for me everything they can because they know if they don't get out their computer faster better smaller cheaper higher quality they all lose and in dentistry. It's all about the patient. And i don't really care what docs thinks about a dsl or delta dental or the ada. I wouldn't do all your polcies divided by the patient. Do they make dentistry faster better. Easier lower cost higher quality. It's all about the patient and every dennis. I know that keeps one eye on the patient and one iron cost and drowns out all the noise from the dysfunctional value chain. They do very well in dentistry and on that note. Thank you so much for coming on the show. that jane grover whose a d. m. d. n. a. m. p. h. a. Dds massive level. If she can talk about how. Dentists can do their job without having to rely on an emergency room. Who's really sick of her crap. I mean to emerge and tell tell the head. Er guy you're a dentist and he'll roll his eyes so the next time you're winding well yeah. Some people don't think dennis are real doctors. Well nobody in the emergency room. Thinks you're a real doctor and took. I'm going to interrupt you howard. I have done that the entire time right on. But i'm good interrupt you because it's not the er docs. They are more than willing to embrace. It's the c. suite guys. They're the ones who aren't giving us the opportunities that we need to be able to have in order to come in and treat those patients find its hospital administrators. It's the insurance people. They don't they. Don't see this as a value add enough. I literally had a hospital administrator. Tell me yeah. That's that's about eight percent. That's not enough for austin best that kind of money in this while. They are the ones. When i went and talked with the er folks. They're all about it. Oh yes let's do this. Let's do this. Let's do this. When i go up and i talked to the hospital administrators in the ceo's and then they get the insurance companies involved. That's when things break down because there find a charge thirty thousand dollars literally saw guy come in like you with a bill for thirty thousand dollars because he had to have a cat scan and a pet scan for an infected second more. So so you're saying it's the it's the ceo. The chief financial officer the chief opera the ceo. The chief information on if you're saying people are saying. I mean obviously if you have eight and a half percent of americans i mean. Half of america goes to walmart in any given week or month if half american went to walmart. Eight and a half percent of them wanted tonight him. What's the chance walmart would carry it. A hundred percent and they'd make twelve and a half percent net income on it So you're saying it's the c. Suite hospital executives. Don't aren't doing this right. That's been my experience. And i did it for six. And a half years pounding the pavement. I went and i talked. Legislators i talked to the i. I talked to the hospital administrators. I talked to the cfo's and it took a long time of me. Feeding down a lot of doors in order to get any funding. And i just said let let me send my way. Send them my way. I'll take care of them so interesting. Well thank you for that point susan. Seriously thank you so much for taking your time. You're more than wonderful. So if someone wants to contact you just go to ada practice transitions dot com or how they follow up of. They got specific. If they have a specific question they can always email me ebert. S e rt s at ada dot org or they can just go to our website and e mail adapt ada a t at What is that okay now. I just had a blank. Go ahead and just i. E mail us at adapt at eighty eight dot org so you were trying to think of what A website or no. Just if they have questions they can go to the website. Ada practice transition dot com. And there's a contact us form. Oh contact contact us at eight hundred eighty eight. Pt at eighty dollars. Okay let me see if i can find. Sounds too good to save some. Okay contact us. Yeah you just go there. Go to asia. Practice transition dot com. They got a contact she questions. The email is eight. P t at eighty dot org ada at eighty dot org and again. Thank you so much for coming on the show day. It was just an honored podcast. You thank you so much cowardice and honored to be here at truly was all right. Good luck with those grandkids. Thank you you too.

dennis florida dental association Dr ebert four hundred thousand dollars louisville Dennis arizona florida dr suzanne marie university of louisville colle caesar sabato ada business innovation groups oscar judge wapner fifty eight year two week ada susan ebert two year mrs ebert
January 24th, 2019

Buzz Burbank News and Comment

1:09:19 hr | 2 years ago

January 24th, 2019

"The following presentation is brought to you by the realm network. Those Burbank news in common. The longest shutdown in history just got longer. This is Thursday, January twenty four th twenty one thousand nine hundred thank you for supporting this independent news by patronizing, my sponsors and through the pay pal. Donate button at buzz, Burbank dot com. Welcome to the thirty four th day of the Trump government shutdown. We could be in for sixty more days each with worse consequences than the day before despite a vote today in the Senate. It will stay shut down a while longer. And the president is subtly threatening to keep it closed into March on his orders. The White House's requesting a list of federal programs that would suffer collapse. If the shutdown were to last say, another sixty days, it has been a long standing Republican dream to shrink government. This just might be their moment. Trump budget director, Mick Mulvaney, says he wants that list and his hands by tomorrow. Meanwhile, the ramifications of the shutdown are spreading wider and hurting more deeply food stamp money. Runs out in a week. Also when a week federal workers who are still getting health insur. Benefits will start having to pay for their own dental and vision insurance because of its urgency, and it's important will examine the shutdown thoroughly after the latest look the man being investigated as a possible agent of the Russian government who's at the center of it. All. People have been telling lies since before. There were words politicians made an art of it some lying more artfully than others. The lies of politicians in modern American history with some stark exceptions have been more like exaggerations half-truths and innuendo to sell themselves to the voters or to push their political agenda often financed by special interests. We got used to that figured. That's how the game is played. And for a long time. It was sure there were the occasional big. And sometimes deadly lies from I am not a crook to WMD's in Iraq and mission accomplished. But for the most part half truths were the stuff of politics. And then came Donald Trump who as president of the United States, sometimes tells the American people over one hundred lies a day, he talks or tweets a lot the more. He talks the more. He deceives often just out of ignorance of the facts. But also to deceive as in no collusion. And he repeats himself a lot driving up his count exponentially. Because he is the president someone should keep track for historical reference. If nothing else perhaps for a future psychology textbook. A lot of someone's do. Keep track of Trump's misleading remarks, but keeping up with an itchy Twitter finger is more than a full-time job since the tweeting starts well before dawn and continues past midnight thirty with a lot of tweeting and talking in between as Washington Post fact, checker explained to the guardian you could wake up and the president may have already had five or six tweets that cry out. For fact, Jack's it's exhausting said the fact checker at the New York Times, we haven't had a break said, the director of the nonpartisan fact, check dot org and people count on. This fact checking now more than ever fact, check says its web traffic roads three hundred fifty percent in two thousand eighteen in October in the run up to the mid terms in which Trump would receive an electoral beating by. He said twelve hundred false or misleading things that's an average of forty lies per day, assuming he squeezes in six hours sleep somewhere. That's just over two lies per hour. He spouted well over eight thousand falsehoods in his first two years as president. I would like to write about other things as fact checks director. But it is what it is. And accepting. That's the way it is is a dark turn for the nation to take. Trump also has a lawyer to do some of the talking it's his TV lawyer Rudy Giuliani chosen and tasked by Trump to go defend the president on TV that seems to be Giuliani's main. And perhaps only job he has it appears one job, and it appears he's not doing it. Very well, not at all not the TV part. Not the lawyer part Republicans loyal to Trump called the White House to say maybe Rudy shouldn't go on TV in the evenings. After he's had a drink or two. At one point Giuliani blurted out that he'd heard the tapes while he was denying. There were any tapes when called on it he corrected himself to say, he meant some other tapes, not about this Newsweek reports Trump's been advised to ditch Giuliani, but although Trump said to be disappointed in Rudy's weekend. Appearances insiders, say Rudy's job is secure for now in an extraordinary interview last week on CNN Giuliani blurted that he'd quote never said there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, but Giuliani's client, the president himself who can statistically conclude is probably lying has denied it. Dozens of times. Absolutely, no collusion. Trump told reporters outside the White House last month that he said has been proven. Trump himself has repeatedly indirectly denied that his campaign had no involvement with Russia. When in fact, the campaign manager was giving election data to Russian operatives during the campaign, and while Russia was cyber attacking the US Rudy had started out to twenty minute interview doing his clients bidding attacking what he called false reporting of the Russia investigation, and repeating the falsehood that collusion is not a crime interviewer. Andrew Cuomo cold out that lie prompting Giuliani to walk. It back. The next day saying he's the president's lawyer and only speaks for the president not for the campaign. In other words, Rudy was saying there may have been collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, but the Trump knew nothing about it, which is another way of saying that Trump's key campaign people which include his son and his son in law might be guilty. But not the president who Giuliani says didn't know anything about it. And yeah that there might have been Kalou. Asian. It was just after the two thousand sixteen election that the Trump White House declared there were no communications between the Trump campaign and Russia after that declaration was repeated in February of two thousand seventeen Donald Trump junior revealed in March that well, yes, there were communications. But no meetings were planned out of that in early July. We learned there was a planned meeting with Russians that took place at Trump Tower. But that it was about adoptions and not about the campaign by December Giuliani started claiming that collusion isn't a crime officially the crime is conspiracy. But prosecutors commonly used the synonym collusion as well collusion is the crime of conspiracy in may of two thousand eighteen Guiliani claim that even if the Trump campaign got usable information from Russia. It was never used meaning no actual collusion. In July, Trump claimed there couldn't have been collusion because he said, he doesn't even know Putin. Later that month Giuliani was repeating the falsehood that collusion is not a crime and the president's not guilty because the Russian attack was hacking, and Trump reason his TV lawyer doesn't know how to hack. But Trump wasn't shy about accepting outside. Help months before announcing his candidacy his company hired a contractor named John Gaga who tried to rig the online polls at CNBC and the drudge report to make Trump appear to be a business genius. And a top Republican choice for president for his work. Which by the way, was unsuccessful. John Gaga, build the Trump organization fifty thousand dollars what he got instead of payment in full was a blue WalMart sack containing the boxing glove of a mixed martial arts fighter and twelve or thirteen thousand of the fifty thousand he was owed. But a story about a stack of cash in a boxing gloves to WalMart bag wouldn't be complete without a televangelist in there. Now, would it. It seems Mr. Gaga got this gig. Because he's the top IT guy at liberty university the Christian college led by TV's, right, Reverend Jerry Falwell the WalMart bag. Oh money. Complete with boxing glove was handed the televangelist employees in Trump Tower by Mr Michael Cohen who was then Trump's trusted fix it lawyer. We learned this through some excellent reporting by the Wall Street Journal, prompting Cohen to confirm that he had in fact handed off that WalMart bag and regrets. His blind loyalty to quote, a man who doesn't deserve it. Cohen said he paid that man his money at the direction of Donald J Trump bless responded Rudy Giuliani who went on a single breath to say that both the story is not true. And that if it is true, our president knew nothing about it. So it's either true or it's not for Giuliani. Any news story is ally. Unless it's the truth in which case, it doesn't involve Mr. Trump, those who know Trump's micro managerial style suspect he does after the attempted poll rigging at CNBC failed. Trump tweeted in frustration stupid poll should be cancelled no credibility. It was a week ago today the BuzzFeed reporters Jason Leopold and Anthony Karmet reported the President Trump had directed. Michael Cohen to lie to congress about the Trump Tower project if true, it means the president committed the crime of obstruction of Justice through witness tampering which would oblige congress to start impeach. The report took the nation on a next napping and emotional rollercoaster that lasted into the next day and midway through that ride. The spokesman for the special counsel. Robert Muller did something he rarely does he spoke or more correctly asserted that specific statements in the BuzzFeed report were not accurate along with buzzfeed's characterization of what Muller has specifically in terms of witnesses and documents Muller's office did not say that the conclusion of the BuzzFeed story was wrong. Just that some of the supporting material and it was. But it gave Trump and his supporters and unnecessary opportunity to again, call Michael Cohen Aligarh, even Trump and Giuliani believed. The BuzzFeed story to be true at first when it later appeared the story had a couple of things wrong. They were back to claiming fake news. But now week later BuzzFeed is still standing by its reporting, and it's to federal law enforcement sources, according to those sources, which appear to be from inside the Muller's fear. When Michael Cohen suggested Trump meet Putin face to face to seal the Trump Tower Moscow deal Trump replied, quote, make it happen. Buzzfeed says it story will be born out. In the meantime, BuzzFeed is asking the special counsel office to explain exactly which parts of its reporting are inaccurate. That's not likely to happen considering Muller's close to the vest style. The rest of the news media pounced on the BuzzFeed story. All media emphasizing the words if true in their reporting and with. Hopes and fears dashed and raised in one twenty four hour period. America was taken on another wild ride. One way to gauge the overall accuracy of the BuzzFeed report is to put an alongside things. We already know we know that Michael Cohen did lie to congress about the Trump Tower Moscow talks during the campaign Cohen has since confessed to that and apologized for it. Cohen testified that he acted out of loyalty to Trump. He did not say at the time. Whether it was or wasn't at the direction of Trump. He didn't say it wasn't. We know that Cohen has pleaded guilty to federal felony charges. Congressional perjury. And that he is go operating with prosecutors on that and numerous other things in hopes of getting his sentence reduced and clearing his name to the extent that that's possible. We know that Trump supporters like to point out the Cohen is a proven liar and can't be trusted. Now. Even though what Cohen saying now, we'll decide whether he watches his kids grow up or whether he spends much of his life in prison because Mr. Muller knows the truth in sentencing recommendation for Cohen Muller pointed to Cohen's, credible and consistent information, so Muller. Believes co and is not a liar at least not about this anymore. Muller? Also said in that court filing that Cohen, quote, described the circumstances of preparing his response to congressional inquiries quoting Muller in that document, the information provided by Cohen about the Moscow project is consistent with and corroborated by other information obtained in the course of the special counsel's investigation, which is what the BuzzFeed story was saying. It's Muller's reason for not going harder on Cohen for lying to congress, and it's buzzfeed's reason for believing it's very much on the right track. We also know the Coens cooperation is so valuable to Muller the special counsel recommended. No additional prison time in spite of this additional serious crime of lying to congress. Former federal prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg now with NBC news says his take is that Muller is not disputing the core of the BuzzFeed story. And in some ways, reinforcing it Rosenberg says Muller is only pushing back. On aspects of the BuzzFeed story, and that Muller likely held back from his court filing things he may know, but he's not yet ready to reveal either to the public or to his persons of interest Rosenberg says that the BuzzFeed report were category wrong, special counsel's office would have said. So and Rosenberg says Muller is still playing it close to the vast. But says he's not sure why after all the many journalistic scoops on the Russia probe why the Muller team would push back only on this one other reporters at other outlets tried to confirm or disprove the BuzzFeed report, but they could do neither Cohen won't comment perhaps because he's not allowed to under the terms of his plea deal with Robert Muller with Trump calling. It a sad day for journalism. There was a lot on the line for all reporters and all mainstream media outlets. But after all the ups and downs and up against of the BuzzFeed report that story is not dead. And BuzzFeed may not be wrong. And if true, then the president would have committed high crimes and misdemeanors for which congress has an obligation to impeach one way or another. He would mean the end of the Trump presidency. So did Trump talk with his otherwise strange fix it? Lawyer just before Cohen lied to congress Rudy to the rescue once again Giuliani, sang Trump might have spoken with Cohen about his testimony. But quote, so what if he talked to him about it Giuliani says it was probably an attorney client privilege thing. And that Trump did not council co underlie. So so far as he knows quoting Trump's TV lawyer. I wasn't there. Then Guiliani wasn't around when Trump and Cohen we're talking about building Trump Tower in Moscow, and while Trump was lying voters that he had no business dealings in Russia. There those lies again that may just be pointing to the truth. When the BuzzFeed story, first broke Democrats up and down the ranks were demanding investigations. And in some cases, they were talking impeachment. Adam Schiff, the head of the house intelligence committee vowed to investigate a similar remark from House Judiciary chair, Jerry Nadler. Mark Warner the vice chair of the Senate intelligence committee wants Cohen back for more testimony. Now that Cohen is telling a different story and thinking Muller had found a smoking gun down the line one congressional democrat after another called for impeachment, Texas, congressman Joaquin Castro tweeted, if true President Trump must quote resign or be impeached. If a president cannot be indicted for a crime as some scholars claim then impeachment is the nation's only remedy otherwise. We get a president who is above the law a president who's campaign conspired with Russians tilted the election toward himself. A president who's been under FBI investigation for being a witting or unwitting agent of the Russian government, and who has lied and obstructed that investigation. Every step of the way, a president who takes away notes from interpreters after meeting with Russia's president while praising Russia's president. A president of the United States lies about nearly everything. Michael Cohen us nervous. He was scheduled to testify or congress and on national TV two weeks from today vowing to answer. Honestly, this time all the questions put to him. ABC news has Cohen's told friends he believes Trump's repeated attacks on him could inspire some unstable person to harm him or his family. Trump even brought Cohen's wife and her family into it saying investigators should really look at in father-in-law because quoting Trump that's the money in the family. But there is no indication that Cohen's. Wife's dad is the subject of any criminal inquiry. Go and says his wife has been threatened as well. Cohen himself has been the target of Trump name calling week a liar and the mobster favorite a rat. Still and takes that as intimidation, and is now delaying his testimony until he feels it is the appropriate time through his lawyer Cohen says he is still cooperating with investigators. And that he looks forward to testifying when the time comes no indication of when that time might be lawyer Lanny Davis points to ongoing threats against his family from President Trump and his attorney Rudy Giuliani as recently as this past weekend. Trump says Cohen is quote only threatened by the truth. But Cohen and his lawyer may be making a case for witness tampering through intimidation. And the new Democratic Congress is listening and investigating the possible witness tampering and obstruction of Justice. So we'll Michael Cohen ever testify oversight chairman Elijah Cummings and intelligence chairman. Adam Schiff, say Cohen's family has been threatened repeatedly by Trump and Guiliani for the purpose of discouraging him from testifying and they are offering Mr. Cohen extra security for himself and his family, but comings and chef say voluntarily or by subpoena Cohen will testify. Stay tuned. Might not have been good news for Donald Trump when his choice for attorney general told congress that if the president tried to coach the testimony of anyone that would be obstruction of Justice counseling. Witnesses was the first charge in the impeachment of Richard Nixon William bar had been chosen by Trump is the person most likely to protect him in court. Trump's still failing to understand that. He is not the job of an attorney general Trump appears to have chosen bar because bar had written a memo critical of Muller probe. Trump could not have known that bar would promise congress obstruction charges against a president who suborned perjury or discourage someone from talking Trump also didn't know apparently that William bar is a close longtime friend of special counsel, Robert Muller. I've known Bob for thirty years bar told lawmakers last week, adding we worked closely together throughout by tenure at the Justice department under President Bush, we've been friends since I have the utmost respect. For Bob and his distinguished record of public service bar went on ad that he had confidence in Muller's work all along up to and including the day of his own testimony bar said he wouldn't be bullied by anyone including the president. He promised not to stop the investigation not to fire Muller without good cause and to release as much as he can of the Muller report still questions linger about bar as Trump's attorney general who stands to play a major role in the future of this president and this country. In a memo written by bar last year. He claimed Trump was not obstructing Justice when he asked the FBI's Jim Komi to see his way clear to drop. The investigation of Mike Flynn Barr says the president clearly left it up to Comi and that a normal subordinate in his words would not have found these comments obstructive bar. Also wrote in that memo he believes the president has broad powers, including the power to act on a matter in which he has a personal stake. Obviously in this case the Russia probe except for California Democrat Dianne Feinstein. No lawmaker asked for about these things in answering her bar said that when he wrote that memo he didn't have all the facts of frightening mode of operation for a would be attorney general bar. Also has said he won't necessarily recuse himself from the investigation and that he won't necessarily abide by the advice of the ethics officials in the Justice department. So they recommend he do. So. Still bar is likely to be confirmed as our next attorney general, stay tuned. But we also learned this week that Robert Mueller likely FBI has taken an interest in the NRA a and its ties to the twenty sixteen Trump campaign. Former Trump campaign aide Sam Nunn Burg's Bill that news on CNN. Neither Muller's office nor the NRA will comment on that revelation. The NRA was already under FBI and congressional investigation for its ties to both the Trump campaign and Russians including Maria Bootma, the spy who's pleaded guilty. The infiltrating US gun groups and other conservative groups on behalf of the Russian government to try to influence American policy. Congress founded the NRA had gotten cash contributions for more than twenty Russian nationals in two thousand fifteen and two thousand sixteen the NRA then made an unusually large donation to the Trump campaign thirty million dollars more than it had ever donated to any presidential campaign before. Donald Trump junior met briefly with a Russian banker close to Putin at the NRA's twenty sixteen convention as banker Alexander torsion dried to establish backchannel communications with team Trump the meeting never happened, but junior did meet later with Maria Bhuttan. As federal investigators close in on this president he continues its tax on the FBI and former director James Komi, and he conducted his recent attacks with still more lies and misleading claims that the FBI broke in to Michael Cohen's office. When in fact, it had a legal warrant Cohen himself noted at the time of the FBI agents were respectful professional and courteous, but in late December less than two weeks before he would shut down government Trump accused the bureau of doing the unthinkable and unheard of when in fact such rates are very thinkable and absolutely heard of among sane normal. People two days later, Trump lied again falsely accusing the bureau of intentionally deleting thousands of texts between former agent Peter Struck and former FBI lawyer Lisa page and again, call the FBI investigation into him a hoax. Just after the first of the year FBI agents arrested a man in Georgia who was allegedly plotting to use an antitank weapon and other explosives to burst or rear door of the White House and then kill as many people as possible. By sometime last year. Georgia's twenty year old hasher Jalal hab turned radical and decided to become a martyr for his beliefs one of two halves neighbors contacted the bureau to report the young man had become radicalized and that the young man was planning to travel abroad. So undercover agents went to work getting an informant to get close to him and ultimately selling to have what he believed were the weapons he needed three semi automatic assault rifles three I e D's plus a remote control and a single shot antitank weapon. He reportedly offered his SUV as payment to the undercover agent tab allegedly showed the agents diagrams of the west wing he'd drawn in a notebook. He allegedly shared his plans to also attack the Washington Monument, the Lincoln Memorial and a synagogue in these e when to have received what he thought were weapons from the agents and after they explained how to use them. He loaded. Everything into a rental car. And that's when they arrested him. This dangerous work was carried out by F B I agents who weren't getting paid at the time. And they haven't been paid since not getting paid their five figure salaries while they try to raise a family and the cities where their field offices are located those agents who dealt with a potential terrorist are not even getting reimbursed as usual for their expenses that can include guns cars drugs weapons and frequently airline tickets the bills from the FBI credit cards aren't getting paid and tomorrow those agents like the folks at homeland security and the TSA and the secret service will miss their second consecutive paycheck as the Trump government shutdown continues. Now solidly into a second month. Morale is low more than ten percent of our T as agents are calling in sick. That's more than three times the usual number that, by the way is the last count you'll hear since TSA officials have ordered their subordinates airports around the country. Do stop reporting. The specific numbers of call outs. Among the eight hundred thousand federal workers. Not getting paid thousands are finding other work as substitute. Teachers and Uber drivers. Also, not getting paid federal corrections officers who protect us from the nation's most dangerous criminals members of the US coast guard the first time in American history. The part of our military force has gone. Unpaid morale is low across the board. But nowhere is that more dangerous than among the people who keep us safe, those who can leave their furloughed government jobs are doing just that and recruiting good replacements won't be easy. Now that the nation has just seen. How insecure a federal government job can be when it comes to the FBI file this under Kim Wilde down public faith in the FBI has eroded, but especially among voters in the Trump publican party more than three out of four Democrats still like the FBI, but a Pugh center tracking poll finds that in the past two years, the number of Republicans and Republican leaning independent voters who view the FBI favorably has fallen sixteen percent fewer than half. Half the conservative voters trust the FBI fewer than half voters in what once claimed to be the law and order party. This is convenient for Donald Trump who's made it a point to continues attacks on the agency that's investigated him and with federal law enforcement straining under the weight of this shutdown the Trump attack on the FBI had just gotten a lot more intense. Aided and abetted by Senate Republicans, President Trump took hostage the US government thirty four days ago, refusing to sign any funding Bill until he gets money for his border wall. Giving the wall the government gets it early in his presidency. He had taken hostage the dream act and executive order by President Obama allowing a path to citizenship for many of the undocumented people brought to the US as children the Obama order protecting millions from deportation starting with an executive order of his own Trump has labored to completely kill the program known also as Dhaka this week hoping to lure Democrats into talking with him about that wall. Trump offered to bring back DACA temporarily for three years, but only if they give him the five point seven million to build his wall, if the president couldn't get wall money for the government he'd held hostage. He'd offer up a different hostage the dreamers at least for a while. Democrats won't talk about a wall. No way. No how and they've continued to pass house bills to reopen. The government knowing Trump would veto them. Even if they did bass the Senate, which they wouldn't the Republican controlled Senate would not until this week even consider voting on democratic plans to reopen the government if it's something that Trump wouldn't sign and Trump won't sign anything unless it has that nearly six billion for wall instead of acting as a check and balance on this president instead of acting as a co equal branch of the government and not as an extension of the executive branch. The Republican controlled Senate was shirking its constitutional duty. And instead doing the bidding of a man who now defines their party and one who is under investigation for collusion with Russia. Most of the blame was heaped on Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell who refused to even allow vote. Opole of Republican Senator showed that forty of the sixty would vote no on reopening, the government, if the Bill didn't have that wall money. So McConnell's point about a vote being pointless had some merit. But the Senate was finally coming off the bench today for the first time since the shutdown began, although the measure to reopen government was expected to fail to get the two-thirds majority voting needs and the same fate was expected for a Bill to fund the wall, but agreeing to vote on both or each of these things marks the first time that Republicans and Democrats in that body have agreed on anything in thirty four days. And it's bond hope that under pressure to end the shutdown both parties will try to negotiate a way out of this Trumpian loop. The Trump fight to kill DACA had finally made its way to the United States Supreme court. Trump was expecting a quick answer. And a ruling that Obama's executive order granting protection. Kids who grew up American was illegal or unconstitutional. The Trump administration had asked the court to review DACA and ruled that he has the authority to end it with an order of his own that lower courts have struck down for being baseless and legally sketchy instead the United States Supreme court put off hearing that case until sometime next year. That means the dream act that the president had taken hostage will stand until the case comes back to the court to be heard. He was wrong about getting a quick ruling. He was wrong to think the court would immediately ruled in his favor. He was wrong to think that he's ordered to end DACA could finally go into effect, and he had also lost bargaining chip one of the president's two hostages had escaped and he was down to just one. Those eight hundred thousand furloughed federal workers. Trump could no longer dangle the dreamers in front of Democrats to get them to build his wall. Nothing is working and he's running out of options. And besides the personal affected has on those furloughed workers, it's damaging Americans faith in Trump's ability to steer the economy, his favourite bragging point, there are increased calls for Trump to end the shutdown and to end his trade wars, both of which stand to damage the economy this past week, the university of Michigan's consumer sentiment index fell to its lowest point in the Trump presidency, and well below what was forecasted the recently slumping and a Radic stock market had some impact on these new numbers. But most of the blame for the confidence drop goes to Trump's trade war and his government shutdown, according to university, researchers their work is born out in a similar poll by survey monkey for the New York Times economic confidence surged after the midterm election in November, but fell sharply. When Trump closed government to hold out for his wall. At the start of last year fewer than one in four of us thought the economy was worse than the year before at the start of this year. Nearly a third of us think the economy's gotten worse as we cite the shutdown in our survey answers, you're not gonna make a major purchase. If you're worried about the economy about to take a major downturn wrote a guy in technology sales, my income, he says is pretty directly tied to how the whole economy is doing and when people stopped buying things the whole economy suffers and it all starts with eight hundred thousand unpaid federal workers, it ends when it starts to affect Trump's voter base. When it comes to shutting down the government over a border wall. Seventy one percent of us disapprove, according to a new CBS news poll that puts Trump's base on this issue at twenty nine percent at best. Two weeks ago? We examined numbers that show Americans blamed Trump and his party much more than the Democrats for this record setting government shutdown this week, a new mattress bowl public broadcasting shows that Trump's net approval rating dropped seven points over this time last month and a lot of that was in Trump's precious base of supporters while most Republicans and nearly all evangelical still cling to Trump his support among white suburban man has dropped eighteen points in the past month among men without college degrees. A key part of Trump's base his approval rating has dropped seven points in the past month. In the words of man shopping for coveralls at WalMart. I was doing fine with him until his government shutdown. It's ridiculous. He told a reporter for the Washington Post, adding you're not getting the wall and Mexico's not paying for it. Fatigue is also setting in quoting a woman who voted for Trump. The wall is getting out of hand. I'm sick of hearing about it. Something miraculous has to happen. She said for me to vote for him again. A Michigan man voted for Trump because like others. He was disgusted with politics and wanted to shake up things. He liked the idea of turnover. The tables kind of president. Now, the forty nine year old says what they F were we thinking? But Trump listens to his base. What's left of it? And members of that base speak loud and clear about their shared desire to build that wall. And they say loudly and clearly that if Trump folds on this he will lose their support Trump is taking cues from conservative media, and from his dwindling base and his immigrant hating advisers. He had I agreed to sign a Bill to fund government without a wall until it came under attack from the likes of Breitbart and Ann Coulter, then he offered up the dreamers to entice Democrats to fund the wall whereupon conservative media tore into him about allowing the amnesty. They dread for undocumented residents. Having already alienated the rest of the country. Trump is now trapped in this shutdown loop between reopening the government and angering his base which consist of fewer than four out of ten voters. Trump's disapproval rating has hit an all time. High fifty seven percent nearly six out of ten of us. According to a poll just out from politico. Forty percent of us approve of Trump while even smaller numbers support him through the asteroid. But history shows Trump always sides with his base still his every move now made without what's been described as adult supervision is costing him politically. He's begun to upset the only people left to support him by hurting their economy, and by showing weakness and threatening to abandon part of a tough immigration policy. Tomorrow marks the second bay check this month. Best by eight hundred thousand federal workers and thousands of government contractors to all the places. They normally had lunch are now empty at midday. The best and brightest government workers are now looking for something more steady and those left behind are looking for people who still think a government job would be a sweet deal. Oh, and with so many IRS workers. Now calling in sick go where they can earn some money. Your tax refund may be delayed. Sixty percent of IRS workers in Kansas City who have a hardship clause in their union contract are refusing. The agency's ordered to come back to work with no pay hundreds of IRS workers simply are not showing up as the first tax returns are being dropped in the mail by tax payers. The IRS workers who process lose refunds at twelve. Bucks. An hour cannot afford to go back to work at a job with no pay salon dot com's Bob Ceska believes. He knows why the Trump shutdown could go on for a very long time. Bob. Thanks baas. We should probably brace ourselves for an extended Trump shut down. Because there's ultimately no reason for the president to end his ongoing temper tantrum, he straight up needs. This even though his poll numbers are crashing the longer the shutdown continues, the less. Time we're discussing the other catastrophes circulating around the White House. There's continued news about Trump Tower Moscow, of course, with BuzzFeed dumping a series of documents showing how much planning had gone into the project along with the details of Michael Cohen's footwork to line it up. There's the so hilarious. It hurts my stomach meltdown of Rudy Giuliani, which happens to be my personal favourite news story of the month is accidental. Blurting of the truth is becoming legendary with the word befuddled barely sufficing as a mean to describe Rudy's bizarrely worsening dementia. His remarks to the New Yorker are especially weird this quote in particular cracks me the hell up quote. I am afraid it will be on my gravestone Rudy Giuliani. He lied for Trump. Somehow. I don't think that will be it. But if it is so what do I care, I'll be dead, unquote. And then there's also this exchange in which Rudy Giuliani said because I have been through all the tapes, I have been through all the texts I've been through all the Email. And I knew none existed. And then basically when the special counsel said that just in case there are any others. I might not know about they probably went through others and found the same thing to which the New Yorker replied, wait, what tapes have you gone through? And then Rudy said, I shouldn't have said tapes, I've never seen an old man shoveling so vigorously there's also news on Wednesday that the number of Americans with health insurance has dropped throughout the first two years of Trump's presidency. According to Gallup around seven million adults have dropped out of the system. No shocker there. Of course, given how Trump and his enablers in congress. Have systematically undermined the Affordable Care Act, including an especially the untimely death of the individual mandate. A cornerstone of the law that made sure everyone had skin in the game. There's also distressing word this week that Robert Muller's grand jury will run out of money by Friday. Likewise, the shutdown is impacting the FBI's ability to do. It's thing per Reuters. FBI agents have lost irreplaceable sources joint terrorism task force. Officers can't get into bureaus computer systems federal investigations are being stymied by a lack of resources. The partial government shutdown has become a serious national security threat. The FBI agents association said on Tuesday, make no mistake. This is fantastic news, if you're the president and you're being investigated for a variety of crimes several of which involve not just you. But your children crippling the ability of the FBI, and the DC federal grand jury is a huge bonus. For Trump any one of these stories would have lead every newscast and appeared above the fold on every newspaper front page. Were it not for the shutdown and like most shutdowns this one began as just another temporary glitch, but the longer lasts. The more treacherous gets not only is it superseding other chunks of bad news for the Trump's. It's also sending a thrill up the tiny legs of Ladimir Putin who. Absolutely getting his money's worth with Trump's constant disruption of American democracy, culminating in the indefinite closure of the entire US federal government for Putin. It's the gift that keeps on giving his compromise stooge in the White House closed the government until whenever and among the myriad upsides. For Putin is news that various government agencies haven't been able to update the security certificates for the corresponding websites leaving the sides vulnerable to. Yeah. Hackers and just as the twenty twenty presidential election season is warming up in the garage, knowing the landscape, there's absolutely zero reasons for Trump to back down. Now, it's keeping all of the affirmation bad news out of the headlines while sabotaging the investigations into his crimes. Plus, there's bonus points from small government conservatives like Grover Norquist who stated goal for decades has been to drown the government in the bathtub at some point soon. We should expect to hear Trump and FOX. News downplaying the impact of the government being closed. Indeed one. Anonymous, Trump official is quoted as saying he'd be okay. If most federal employees don't return to work. Furthermore, I can totally envision Trump appearing at a rally arms outstretched as he tells his disciples. Anyone here missed the government being open. Everything's just fine. Isn't it? Police are still patrolling the streets. MS thirteen is still being rounded up. Don't worry about it. Believe me. Well, it goes without saying, the red hats are totally fine with it and should Trump ever decide to capitulate on the wall. He knows that most of his racist. Supporters will surely look around for an alternative candidate in two thousand twenty given how his basis literally the only thing standing between him and the first impeachment conviction in American presidential history. He needs every screeching cultist, he can muster without happy red hat's, the Republican party will definitely cut bait with Trump at least enough Republicans to make. Difference in congress, unless the Democrats, and or the Senate Republicans decide to stick it to Trump with a funding Bill that passes with a veto proof majority or unless the House Democrats cave, this shutdown could extend through the winter, and perhaps even beyond with commensurate disasters dropping every day. I'm not feeling very positive, obviously about the trajectory of this thing. Not within a rational maniac on one end of Pennsylvania Avenue and Mitch McConnell with his Russian cash and his slippery obnoxiousness on the other end if Putin's goal was to blackmail, Trump into disrupting the functioning of the entire US government. Well, then mission accomplished I'm Bob Ceska for buzz, Burbank. News and comment. Thank you bomb. Get more of Bob with a subscription that patriot dot com slash Bob Ceska show or Tuesdays and Thursdays at round network dot com. He'll have a fresh edition this afternoon. I joined Bob on his show every Tuesday. Congressional Democrats led by house speaker, Nancy. Lizzy are fighting back acting as a check and balance as congress is constitutionally obligated to do at first Pelosi advised Trump that perhaps it would be best if he delayed the state of the union address she'd invited him to give until after the shutdown has ended she cited security concerns, but it was also about the shutdown tantrum over his wall. Trump tried to bully his way and sending in the usual advanced team and announcing he would speak the congress this coming Tuesday. Despite Pelosi's polite advice to stay away. But then she told him he would not receive a formal invitation to speak, and that he would not be officially invited until government is up and running. Again, she told him the speech heat announced was off. If Trump could take hostages so could Pelosi and a speaker, she has the authority to refuse to invite him. And she did it is the first time since Woodrow Wilson's day that our president hasn't been invited to give this annual address. Trump was caught off guard and stunned and accused Pelosi of not wanting to quote here the truth the truth as told by consistently lying, president team Trump scrambled to find a new venue to speeches were in development one for if he speaks in a rally typesetting the other for if he speaks from the East Room of the White House. Trump reportedly wasn't crazy about either idea a rally he believes as too informal for a state of the union address and given the low ratings of his recent Oval Office address, he's not excited about another one of those either. So late last night Trump conceded to Nancy Pelosi bowed. To her insistence that the speech be put off until after the shutdown his ended if or when it ever ends. In the meantime, Trump is weaker now that he has a congress that isn't entirely run by Republicans. Democrats now plan to take the lead by offering Trump money for border security, maybe even the old five point seven billion dollars so long as not a penny of it is spent on building a wall, and so long as government is reopened immediately. That would show the Democrats are far more serious about border security than Trump has claimed. And it would give him his five point seven billion dollars a possible way to save face. Just wouldn't give him the wall. The president could agree to end this shutdown, but it would be awfully disappointing to Sean Hannity at Fox News. And so far that means everything to Trump. In the midst of this chaos. The Trump anti immigration policies March on is administration had already reported that about two thousand seven hundred children have been separated from their parents. But this past week we learned that the family separations actually began shortly after Trump took office in two thousand seventeen that means thousands more than the twenty seven hundred have been ripped from the arms of their parents since Trump became president. And if that news can get worse, it is in the revelation that there was a week system for tracking kids in the early days and as a result. There are no hard numbers on how many kids were snatched nearly thousand children were never even identified as congressional Democrats wrest control of the immigration issue away from the president they plan to investigate the cruelty of Trump's immigration policies, plural. And the American Civil Liberties union, which has helped us learn much of what we know about the family separation policy says that with these new revel. Nations. It'll be hauling the Trump administration back into court Twenty-seven-year-old, Jill mar Ramos, Gomez wound up in a Michigan immigration facility where he was held until he could be deported. What immigration officials didn't know or didn't bother to know is that Mr. Ramos Gomez is an American citizen and a better one than most born in Michigan Jomar was suffering post traumatic stress syndrome after being tank crewmen in Afghanistan for the US military. He has since been released by ice. But the ACLU says the detention of this American marine needs to be investigated in the Trump regime. The Pentagon is now taking a second look at every recruit who has a green card and connections overseas. The idea is to screen out potential terrorists and spies, but the policy is similar to one from the Trump administration. That's been blocked by federal judge some. Eight thousand green card holders in list every year despite that and a reported shortage of recruits, the Pentagon has also tried to end program that gave non-citizens relatively quick path to citizenship. But that program remains in effect as its proposed and this challenged in court and just before handing him an immigration defeat on Tuesday. The US supreme court gave the president what appeared to be a small victory in his quest band transgender people from serving in the military again in the midst of a personnel shortage because it is court made up of five conservatives and four liberals and no independence. The vote was five to four to let the trans ban. Go into effect at least until it could be sorted out in court lower courts, not this one most but not all of those lower courts will likely condemn the ban. They were after all the courts that issued the injunctions to keep the trans banned from going into effect before. Now those courts. Ruled that the administration has failed to give any logical reason for the ban which to bypass discrimination charges now targets most, but not all trans soldiers. The DC appeals court, however, voted to uphold the ban after a persuasive argument from then Defense Secretary James Mattis now the revised trans ban will circuit its way through the courts, again only to land back in the laps of these five and four supreme court justices, the new policy is complicated and intimidating thousands. As many as seven thousand trans troops continue to serve their country in a Trump military that makes their service on wanted. If you don't laugh, you cry to more immigration notes, I walls don't work along the part of heiress Ona's border with Mexico that has a wall around Yuma. Emigrants just last week tunneled under it and then turn themselves into border patrol all three hundred seventy six of them from under a wall. Also last week Trump told reporters that El Paso, Texas, went from being one of the most unsafe cities in the country to one of the most safe. He said it was because quote, they built a wall about all that first crime is low in El Paso, just as it is in a lot of happy quiet towns along the Mexican border this one a couple of miles north of the actual border. A woman who's been a public defender in El Paso for the past three decades says it's always been a safe place to live before. And after offense not a wall went up there. Ten years ago residents say they have seen no one carrying backpacks. Much less. The backpacks. Full of smuggled drugs. Trump has described Trump's claim about crime and drugs are at the heart of his bloody battle for a wall. And those claims like nearly everything else he says are lies. There was another mass gun murder in the US yesterday. When a man barricaded himself in a Bank and see bring Florida nearly ninety minutes south of Orlando five people were killed before the gunman called police to give them a body count. A swat team moved into the Goshi it with a twenty one year old named Zaphon Xaver whose father says he wasn't raised to be like this Xaver was in training to become a correctional officer. The supreme court. Also this week agreed to hear its first gun case. In nearly a decade gun groups are challenging the law in New York City that limits the carrying of firearms outside the home this second amendment case will be watched closely for clues about how this conservative leaning court will rule on future gun cases, and with that conservative majority. There may well be more cases. It takes the votes of only four justices to get a case on the docket vote was five to four in two thousand eight when the court ruled that the second amendment guarantees the right to a gun in your home for self-defence. Stay tuned in Chicago. A former police officer has been sentenced to more than six years for killing of look on McDonald. Jason Van Dyke was convicted on multiple charges in the fatal shooting of a seventeen year old who was holding a knife Van Dyke who is white fired sixteen shots in the young black, man. He's now been convicted of second degree murder and will now spend years in prison. The day before Van Dyke was handed his sentence. A judge acquitted three officers on charges they'd conspired to cover up the circumstances of McDonald's death. Dash Cam video the killing does not show us what the officers. Aw. They claim McDonald was advancing toward them. It is the same video. However that convicted former officer Van Dyke. The Los Angeles teachers strike ended this week and classes are back in session after a week off the teachers agreed to come back on smaller classes, more nurses, and librarians and the promise of better pay starting with a six percent raise. They also got the standardized testing cut in half and a cap on the number of charter schools, no sooner than the L A's drag had been settled teachers in Denver voted to strike after a year of fruitless talks over a new contract. The vote to strike was ninety three percent. And as in L A, two thirds of the teachers belong to the union in Denver, it appears to be all about the paychecks. I term California Senator Kamala Harris is the latest democrat enter the twenty twenty presidential primary race in a field of candidates already featuring minorities and women Harris's both the daughter of immigrants from India, Jamaica, if elected she would be the first female, president, the first African American woman and. The I also of Asian heritage at age fifty four Harris was San Francisco's DA and California's attorney general and she says she will fight for Justice decency and equality Republicans. Call her unqualified, so now there are nine Democrats running and look for Cory Booker Colorado's John Hickenlooper, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and former L A mayor and prosecutor Gil Garcetti to join the fray of the nine candidates so far for our women at least nine other Democrats are maybes Romeo, the frog and emotional support gator and a snowman defeats a bullet in the final segment of mex-. Thank you for using my Amazon link at buzzed bag dot com for Valentine's Day and all your shopping year round at home and at work, your use of that link helps keep this newscast going and free for the listening. So please book market as your permanent shopping button. I get a little commission from Amazon for every purchase you make that way and for every Amazon prime membership purchased through me. So it really helped power this free weekly report just look for the Amazon logo on my website, click that and land on your very own Amazon age, and then bookmark that at your desktop that logos in the upper right corner at buzzed Burbank dot com on your phone. It's just under the title buzzed, Burbank. News and comment. Now, if you'd rather not use my Amazon lengthen, please support this free independent journalism through the pay pal. Donate button. And thank you. Even if we do have bigger environmental problems consider this a bleary eyed wakeup call coffee is going extinct. It's the coffee that grows in the wild. That's disappearing and intentional coffee crops. Depend on those wild varieties to survive but diseases climate change and the bulldozing of our forest to raise hamburger meat are killing those wild coffee plants sixty percent of the species found in the wild are on the verge of vanishing already. Seventy five percent of them are in danger at about a fourth of all species growing areas that are unprotected from human endeavors, a British researcher told CNN that coffee plants grow in very specific habitats. So rising temperatures and more rain from climate change may growing coffee impossible. She gives the wake-up beans and other Tanner twenty years. And as coffee vanishes. The researchers say we can expect coffee to get more expensive and taste worse. The thing goes Iceland is green and Greenland is ice. The twenty nineteen version Iceland is green and Greenland is melting the Arctic is warming twice as fast as the rest of the planet. And the Arctic circle includes Greenland where the speed of the melting increased by four hundred percent between two thousand three and two thousand twelve scientists say Greenland is now melting some more and quickly. Another recent study found that the oceans are warming faster than earlier estimated, and that water is warmer than we expected, and the ice is melting faster than we expected, and that means sea levels will rise more quickly than we had feared. And that beaches and parts of American towns will begin to disappear show record number of Americans. Now about three out of four of us concerned about global warming concern is heating up as well. People are also taking action recyc-. Doing their mattresses instead of letting them languish landfills altering their diets to eat less coffee killing hamburger and matchmaking for a frog. For the past ten years say Hank was water. Frog has lived alone in a museum in Bolivia conservationist carefully cared for him as he appeared to be the last of his kind on the planet. He was a Romeo without Juliet until he signed up with match dot com. The conservation of setup Romeo's account and believe they have finally found a mate. So that his species can survive. A blind date has been arranged chaperoned, of course, on Valentine's Day. She has beautiful is said the museum director who has the girl. Frog quarantined until the test results. Come back to make sure everything's a okay, no fungus, mainly and they're optimistic species will survive, even if the two frogs don't have chemistry. They have since found more and younger, Rome. Goes in case, this guy doesn't pan out. And there's always in vitro fertilization. Yes, they have it for frogs. But as I said domestic so much. So they've named this newly found girl. Juliet. News about life on the far side of the moon. However, isn't so good. Remember, the cottonseed that successfully sprouted on the lunar surface inside a Chinese biosphere? Well, it died it happened. Once the lunar night fell which did for the first time since China's probe landed on the far side of the moon the lunar night last for two weeks. It gets cold nearly three hundred degrees below freezing the probe itself is in standby mode. Waiting for daylight to return for what at the moment is the dark side of the moon Justice and now science a debt of gratitude comic genius. Larry David and his HBO series. Curb your enthusiasm in recent years footage from the show shot at Dodger Stadium cleared a man who had been wrongfully accused of a serious crime. Now, brain scientists have tapped the brains of college students watching that show to understand how the brain time stamp. It's memories using a special MRI, they studied brain patterns, synchronized with the events and images in the show. It helps scientists find the to exact spot in the cortex where we record the what and the win and the order of events quoting a researcher. We chose this show because we thought it contained events that were relatable engaging and interesting, adding we also wanted one without a laugh track in a week that saw RCA records drop our Kelly after a documentary accused him of sexually abusing underage girls. A note about last week's top movie in theaters the upside with Benedict Cumberbatch that was a Harvey Weinstein project, and you haven't seen the last of them Weinstein was forced out of his lofty Hollywood purge more than a year ago by sexual abuse allegations, his company was sold for scrap the movies in progress landing in the laps of others hotel by premiers in March, that's a Weinstein joint. So our leave. No, trace and. Captain fantastic. Keep those in mind when you see them come up. Samuel Jackson, and Bruce Willis have the top movie this week with 'em night Schanz glass, it took in nearly forty one million in the US and Canada. The upside was down to a strong second the Ruth Bader Ginsburg movie on the basis of sex is hanging in tenth place and still in theaters to find it and all the movies, fandango logo buzz, Burbank dot com. A superhero movie is for the first time among the nominees for best picture the Oscars this year, that's one of seven nominations for Black Panther, spike. Lee's black clansmen got six and it too is on that list along with the Queen bio-pic bohemian rhapsody green book, a star is born vice Roma and the favourite best. Actress nominees include the interesting combination of Glenn Close lady Gaga and Melissa McCarthy for precisely played dramatic role by Melissa Rami. Malik of bohemian is a favourite among the best actor nominees alongside Christian bale. Bradley Cooper, Willem Defoe and Vigo Mortenson. The Oscar ceremony will be telecast live and in color Sunday evening, February tenth on ABC. The nineteen year old son of the late James Gandolfini will play a younger version of Tony soprano in a prequel movie by sopranos director David chase. It'll be set in Newark, New Jersey, nineteen sixty seven when a talian. At African Americans engaged in race riots. Michael Gandolfini says he's excited and proud to play a role played by his father who passed from a heart attack at age fifty one nearly six years ago now. A sideline federal worker could drive for Uber or they could drive the Oscar Mayer wiener mobile you have less than a week to get in your application for the job of hot dog. You'd have time to get your affairs in order since the Weiner doesn't begin it's cross country track till June. It also ends with the arrival of autumn. So it's temporary work. Maybe the shutdown will be over by then. The Kutztown police department doesn't want you to drive afterward. But they would like you to drink for training purposes that apartment wants to train its officers to spot various levels of intoxication and teach them how to administer field sobriety tests. When they put the word out on Facebook that apartment was overwhelmed with responses from people who wanted to get drunk. They got more than one thousand shares in less than a day the volunteers are being screened and make sure they have a clean record. And to make sure they have a designated driver. The drinking begins April fourth if your hair looks like it was cut by a seven year old and your barber is probably Elijah Hernandez of Houston. Texas Elisha is the daughter of barber father, Frankie Hernandez, and she's been watching dad cut hair since she was a toddler. He says that by the age of four she had skills. He added instruction and guidance. And now Elijah is giving great haircut. It's the age of seven a fade explains. The seven year old is when you're cutting hair, and it shows the detail of your cut. She's already made her Mark in barber competitions across Texas and her family's now scraping together. The to send it to the nationals. In moose jaw says catch up Canada way. They're determined to take back their crown for having the world's biggest statue of a moose MAC. The moves held that record for thirty one years until nearly four years ago. So Norwegians put up a bigger one not far Ramaz low. It's not even a foot taller than the Canadian moves. And yet things have not been the same in moose jaw since those Norwegians put up. There's the town is now taking suggestions for legit ways to help MAC regain his crown as the tallest moose speaking of crowns, once gestion was that Maccabi outfitted with a hat. Put him on skates was when idea, but the top suggestion has been to give Maccabi Iraq to make his Antlers bigger. An antler extension fundraiser is now underway. Although both countries have reason to honor moose concerns that is in moose. Jaw says Canada's national pride is on the line. And we can't lose it to Norway. Over a moose. Police were conducting a search when they found the alligator at home not in Florida, but Long Island New York, the SPCA is handing off the foot long gator to a sanctuary and Massachusetts, and Pennsylvania Ammann's is his pet. Gator is an emotional support animal. Most of the time. Wally gator hangs in the three hundred gallon pond in his owners living room is hobbies include hiding in the cupboards and watching TV Joey Henny who did a decade of TV hunting and fishing shows has a four and a half foot long alligator as a pet and sure he he's attached to Wally. But he also takes Wally on outings to visit the elderly at an assisted living development north of your PA. He's just like a dog. He tells them. It was dogged that ultimately cornered twenty nine year old Dominick multi after he took off running a traffic stop in the land Florida, but it was the horses the Jays Dominic into the canines clutches Dominic tried to hide under a tree after fleeing his car that didn't work out. So he took off running through a field of horses who gave chase until he found a fence to jump just in time to meet up with the police dogs, a police helicopter, the whole thing on video and posted it on Twitter humans machines and animals worked together to capture a young Dominic multi in Chicago lands Lake County, Illinois, they were looking for a man who had endangered the life of a child and the lives of others. The best news is no one was injured. The nine year old girl is okay. But the thirty one year old male relative being sought by police had ridden shotgun as the nine year old girl. Drove herself to school school employs saw. Aw. Her pull up to the drop off. He had the girl drive because his license had been suspended. It's still is. On potty Vedra beach in Florida. A Honda SUV was swept away by the high tide as its owners were distracted by this week spectacular. Lunar eclipse they were in the at the time but managed to escape before the vehicle is lost to the sea. Until it could be towed out the next day. Tales from the eclipse, Florida style in West Palm Beach, Florida a couple in their mid twenties laid down on a darkened road to get their best view of the eclipse. That's when the cop ran over them. It didn't see them. It was dark. The officer was only doing about five miles an hour. So neither moon. Gazer was seriously injured this time. And finally don't take on a snowman. You can't handle Kentucky's. Cody lutts was proud of the giant snowman he'd build with the help of his bride to be and her sister Lucy and her sister help design the construction of the snowman it turns out their contribution was genius. Because as you may have heard over the past hour, there are mean people in the world one of them used a truck of some kind to try to vandalize the snowman built by Cody his fiancee and her sister, but karma can sometimes be instant the tire tracks Cody found a few days after the snowman was built confirmed that someone rammed. A big vehicle into it. Only to discover that. It's base was built around a sturdy tree stump him plus Burbank. Thanks for listening and for supporting this free. News buzz, Burbank dot com. I'll be back next Thursday with another buzzed Burbank. News and comment. Preceding presentation was brought to you by the realm network.

President Trump Trump president Trump Trump Tower Trump administration United States Trump Tower Moscow Mr Michael Cohen Donald Trump Trump White House Trump Tower Rudy Giuliani Robert Muller congress FBI Ladimir Putin buzzfeed Russia Russian government
47: Monday, March 18th, 2019 with Taylor Strecker

The Morning Toast

1:04:40 hr | 1 year ago

47: Monday, March 18th, 2019 with Taylor Strecker

"Good morning millennials. I dare anyone to try and get a word in because tell us Strecker is here. The only person cops over other people more than they is this bitch. Hi, how you doing girl? I miss you. So we're supposed to be on the show two weeks ago. But I cancelled because I'm a flake. But I'm glad you're here now. And obviously, I waited the last minute to fill in for coho. So you got you out on board yesterday. And I'm so appreciative of your flexibility. Well, I love you and love you full disclosure. I'm a little under the weather. It's bitch only comes Alicia up when she's got like bronchitis or some shit always fucking sick. You are that's look into that. You don't have a high immune system, or whatever I'm going to say that. That's what it is for sure maybe I'll stop drinking. How are you? You're your drugs. I know I haven't drank in a whole week you haven't and it's been glorious. I drink two days ago. Oh my God. I'm jealous. Why did you take the week off because I've been so sick. I mean, I'm like, I'm a human today. But I was like sweating and like feverish like gagging or days. I feel like the only thing that actually gets me and stop drinking is like illness you too. Yeah. Now that I think about it. Then I swear it off. Yeah. Of course, I always fared off. But so much part of my life involves drinking. And I also just want to have fun and sorry, drinking is fun. I know we live in New York City. I know it's like I just went to engage in party. I was so tired. I'm like, I'm going to stop in for one minute. And it was it wasn't my direct friend with my my best friend, at least, you her brother. So I'm I'm the little sisters friend when I'm gonna show up, Ben. We're there for five minutes. And then we're out I want to be in bed. Obviously the last person at the party taking shots like with the DJ. Like, I don't know why I want to have a good time girl. I'm here for when I get near a bar. I'm like, suddenly not tired anymore. You know, what happens me Jackie's wedding, right? No. I went crazy. You did. There was something in the water. Like, so many people went crazy like had to be sent home. That makes me feel so good happen. Let's another reason why I'm not drinking so much because my girlfriend Taylor like made me hope back stop. Let's say this. I threw Chanel on the ground my own Chanel at the wedding at the wedding. We the entail left. Oh, she has. Actually like reality. She just makes me feel so much better. Because it's of course, in my mind these brands like literally had to be carried out and putting the gap. Oh, thank Jesus. Yes. So my only thing is poor Heather McMahon. One hundred talion we're at their table, which was like I was so excited. I'm like, we're gonna Bondi. They're so fun. I was like, hey, you take him. I had their identity. Keta? Cut to Taylor leaving me coming back in like doing the thing where I'm like, what is I'm John. And they were like what? Anyway, I texted has it. And I was like if you never want to speak to me again. Okay. You were barrister yourself. I was a slob Kabbah when he woke up the next morning. How did you feel because I think the worst part about like making with stakes when you're drunk is not actually the mistakes. It's the way you feel the next morning like the moral hangover. So I would next morning, and I had to do my life show. Caroline's fuck so I had to get on the apology train immediately. Yeah. Time 'cause I couldn't do like a fight with TAY all day long. And then like go do a live show. No. But the mining tire show was about that. That's funny. Actually, right. I was allowed shows. They're good at carlin's is fun. They got great food. How're your life shows? I mean, I'm still hung over from the party at Foxwoods everyone's appointments now we need to go to see a lot. So I feel like there's a place. I'd like should be at often because it's the same distance just in a different direction. It was fucking lit. Like, I went to the club afterwards. And it was like legit as hell. I felt like I was in Vegas like not. Not at all. But in Connecticut, Connecticut, there is lovely Indian reservation. You know, it was lovely. I had a great time. But wait, you're selling these like insane theaters out. Yeah. Rockstars. Oh, I mean, like I ever almost sage like, I'm along, sir. Like, don't you do not want to see me backstage? Because like now, they're like in the theater, I think that I'm like fucking sharpei. I'm very critical of myself like whenever we the greatest show. Everyone comes out sage that was amazing. And I'm like. I just don't have a good grip. I'm like when I do well or not and like in a theater, you can't hear anything on stage show. It's like are people laughing. I don't know. That's actually true. You really can't in a comical move a much better grasp on what's going on that you can hear it's annoying. It has both ends. It's like I could hear when someone farted because the comedy club. There's an echo and when people are talking around their phones like I'm so acutely aware of it. But when they left a more aware of it, and it's instant gratification, whereas theater, I'm like this just three hundred feet away. I don't know if she's having a good time. Right. You know, I can guarantee. Our because when I was at your Boston show. Everybody around me was dying. And I took my brother because he doesn't he's not like my sister stands you. I wanted my brother to come because I wanted to like, you know, I'm like scient- biased point. And he was blown difficult high paid her to say that and to be here. Just to hop tickets to my Shelby and Phoenix. And he goes like this to me. That's. Thanks. How about your sister? Your brother, your fab has everyone fans grades sisters. Great and tasers forgive you taste, finally forgiven me. She did leave me homesick yesterday. She was sick and tired of my ass. She was sick and tired of being sick and tired like literally a so she went out for Saint Patrick's Day and ice slept. I know she's Donahue. That's like her day her holiday. Yeah. So of course, I cried when she left where did you like so? Yeah, ours. She goes do Saint Paddy's as so far to me like the opposite of the person who should be fell. Do what did she do? She met with her sister. And like drank and now, she's so like the movie silver linings playbook. Yes, they're all. Love the eagles on our Irish is Taylor. Totally. It's so funny. Well, teller is here to break down two thousand five stories that you need to know before you wake up and take a bite out of your morning toast today and the new cycle Jin. Stop this weekend shit was lit and not in a good way. Because former that's so raven star. Kyle Massey sued for alleged sexual misconduct with a minor. Now, Kyle must he was a personal favorite character of mine. I love that. Sorry. Kevin and more importantly, loved his spinoff, Cory in the house here. The details. Former Disney star Kyle Massey is being sued for one point five million dollars for allegedly quote, attempting to commit a lewd act with a minor. The suit was filed anonymously, and this refers to the accuser as Jane Doe who was allegedly minor kicked her name out of it. Do the highly sensitive and personally Trump's subject matter her mother, and oh, okay. Filed on her behalf. According to court documents obtained by news, Jane and Endo allege of their relationship with Nancy dates back to Jane was four years old when they allegedly met at Universal City. According to the lawsuit that Twenty-seven-year-old actor allegedly maintained contact with an and her family and became a father figure to Jane the daughter allegedly wanted to pursue a career in entertainment, so messy, according to the lawsuit would offer to use his success and influence in the entertainment industry to help her out. Jane Doe, allegedly reach out to massive when she was thirteen and supposedly texted him and said she would love to audition for his show, Cory in the house the suit alleges that Massey offered to fly out and have her live with him Massi alleged allegedly called Jane, so sweet and beautiful and text. Dan, I'll take care of her. He allegedly wrote. I mean like objected in plain sight vibes. Right. I mean, I didn't know that you could like sue someone anonymously. I didn't really either. What do you think though, when they don't press criminal charges and just go right on you? Yeah. I mean, we're led to think like it's shade by totally. But like, I mean, I watched did you watch leaving that Rowland? Oh, my showcase. And there were so many instances where like people sued him or pursued criminal charges, and in the cases, where he settled out of court it like kind of took away from the belief for people like people like will obviously would just out for the money because they didn't pursue criminal charges, and they just settled out of court, and then he couldn't speak on any because like NDA's and shit. So I mean, I believe what Michael Jackson did to be true. So I don't know. It is weird Oso. So if they were pursuing criminal charges, they couldn't do it anonymously, but there's statute of limitations. Right. So if they were over that then they could only do like a civil suits in that case, right? Is california. I don't know what it is. And I don't know how long ago, it was statue of limitations. Like, I think is trash. It's bullshit is supposed to like I was a criminal fifteen years ago so count and like most people don't just like do a crime and then like never do one. Again, you know. Yeah. It's really fucked up, and this is really sad. Because like honestly growing up he wasn't like a role model to me really fucking loved. So how does that feel? Are you going to be done with any of the article of the breadth of the work, right? Like, I am in denial. But like the thing is I was I was about Michael forever. Where you and then leaving Neverland was like it was horrifying horrifying like really like, it's undeniable. Right. Okay. I mean, I I mean, it should be undeniable. But like just going to Twitter and seeing what people are saying. It's like if you search the hashtag leaving number one. Like, it's shocking. How many people are denying it? I know and then it's like. I know Twitter isn't necessarily like the best place to see what the real world thinks because the people on Twitter just the people with the loudest voices, not necessarily the right people. And I think if off like the super negative people are or like the like, they're the naysayers. They're like he's looking it's like, they're always looking to say the opposite. You know, they got Cory in the house is still on because like honestly would make it very difficult for me not to watch it. Well, like, I couldn't watch the Bill Cosby show again. I never watched it. But I mean, I barely did you grow up with it kind of more? So Michael Jackson. The like, I can't listen to as music anymore. I wasn't a big Michael Jackson like music fan. But like honestly there some bops by our Kelly that I no longer can participate in remix to ignition. I know, and you know, right when the documentary human, I was at a party, and they played it and like the dance or literally cleared really people are mad. Yep. And that's what did you watch this series far Kelly. Yes, so good. It was good. And what they said was like he had a career change like when people started to come onto him, and he would start making more Goss. Music that like a lot of people would play at like, weddings and bar mitzvah will not bar mitzvahs, but like weddings and life events. So it's now like R Kelly has now infiltrated people's lives because now you have memories of your wedding or like, a baptism or whatever. Where you're playing our Kelly, and it's like he infiltrated does positive memories because changed his music to be like wholesome family music, which that's like even more corrupt manipulative. I feel like it's really disgusting. Like that entertainment. Like, all I watch. Now is like documentaries about like people who were like abused or got kidnapped. Right. What is that? Are we sick for watching it? It's an entertainment TV supposed to be like this escapism love like I that's why I really love housewives like so not in tune with what's going on in the world. Like, no, that's why like even real housewives in New York last year when they started talking about the election. I was like this is actually interesting, but please stop like the election took over the entire world. It was really difficult, and I love turning on housewives, and they have no idea what? Going on in the world because they are like this elite class of people who are just not in tune with what's necessary. They're fighting over like sign Jeddah party between me remote. Yes. So with that was frustrating. So I think it's like, it's really disgusting. And I'm not really into like as much documentaries as most people are like, I don't walk. I didn't watch objected in plain sight hoard head Bundy thing, but I walked the celebrity ones, obviously. But it's like really discussing and you know, who I blame stuffy you blame stopping you. I do. Culture like being obsessed with like murder and ghosts. What is that? I mean, can you explain that? She actually maze. Say thank you for that conference. Every time you come on my show. I like make you speak on because tussey like won't come on. But she really should come on. She just like you would have so much fun. You know, she's just honestly she's killing it with her book. Oh my God. So we preloaded it same's preorder. Now, I actually was I stayed with her. So I started off and then stayed with her when I was out in LA last week, and we were supposed to do podcast, and she was like to fucking tired. She's just tired at episode where she met Bose mom. I'm behind. Okay. So tell so they went to lunch or whatever and bow like left to go to the bathroom, and he left his phone there and recorded what happened and then they had him. Listen to it for the first time in his confessionals like on the sidebar house. It was basically just like I love boasts so much like thank you so much for letting me have him. And like he's such a great guy and like. Bows face when he like heard stopping like, I actually wanted to cry. No, it was so precious. And it's really interesting to see the arc of relationships on the show. Right. It's actually like so relatable like when you're in your twenties, and you dislike date assholes, and like, you don't know your self worth. And then like, you meet someone who changes that. I just like I love them. You know, I was like I wasn't responsible for Patrick nobody you were very much in. Actually, you're one hundred percent responsible. You knew Patrick for more. Sorry. I just started that that. But like, you know, mobile I interviewed her that's how I met her. And then she tweeted Patrick from listening to him. And then he texted me and said this crazy hawker for reality shows source wants is tweeting me should I with her. Do it. No. I mean, you didn't know and on paper. He really was like so cute. Does. He Erica hates him. I really don't know. We really haven't spoken in a very long time totally hate to because like you put rap position. And now everyone fucking hates it because he's she went on. Jim you've got him on that show, essentially, the whole world is torn apart for being a complete friend. But you know, what? I sure in his mind. That's the way it went like an egotist with thing. Oh, man. He looks really bad on that season. It was it was that what he was like like sometimes people like a reality show. Just like catch you at a bad time or like, it makes you really like self conscious. It's not always an accurate representation. Representation of people like you were on summer house for five seconds. And you did you think that was an accurate representation when you throw a drink at someone? Yes. Okay. Great. But do you think that's actually is that what Patrick was actually like I like to say this, Patrick when you're you were seeing Patrick at his absent for, and that's what he looks like when he's at his absolute worse. Like was he likes that up against the wall pissed off doesn't want to be. They're not like doesn't wanna play. He didn't wanna film. He didn't wanna film. He I remember watching thinking I wish he'd just said. No. Yeah. But it was like a point of contention in the group that Stacey like had this part of her life that she wouldn't share when they all really like bleed out for the show and make it as good as possible and that plays the problem is machine. It's like you have like you don't even hang out with us in real life. Like, you you put on a show for the actual show where it's like this is a real life like Carson and what they're going through right now. Like that's legitimate. Fuck. No kidding. Yeah. Kristie kept me up till five in the morning talking about it with me at sauce. He's birthday. So when was sauces birthday that was in June? So on watch Evans, I've like two weeks ago asked her you and Carson together, and she was like, honestly, I laid out for the show and like, we're. Just like taking some time off right now. They don't wanna talk about. Well, when I was just out there. She was over its dos, and he wasn't there. Yeah. I mean, it got really real really talk about it. Right. It got very real. When they started saying that like he basically just like is off of her and like pays she pays rent? And I think that is like the most disgusting thing a guy can do to is that like someone for them because I feel the double standard. If we're always doing any time. I couldn't I be like getting Gherman I go you make him pay your. Lala when Lalla guests ditch get out range broker PJ when it's the other way around. I totally agree. But there's something about it. It's just is key. And I guess it's like his also like rude to her which makes it so much worse. Whereas law like respects the fuck out of Randolph real ship them never met. Randall have you met Lola Matt law love her love of man made out with my friend. I love her. I am here for. I mean, what does she say her? Kitty cat would do mean her. Kitty, cat takes diga good. Oh, she says she won me over in that moment. She says the craziest like most insightful like weirdly feminist things, you know, but in a pornographic way, and it's like if Gloria Steinem met Lalla can't she would be like, you are non-feminist. But I actually think LA Kent is weirdly like the progressive postmodern feminists of our generation. I agree like she's so embraces who she is the most like honorable way like I really be like on the most confident person, and like I don't give a shit what anyone says blah law, and I'm like who. You know, I love her. And I love we go from talking about the saucy all and lead to saucy. Okay. Let's jump back into our second story. Well, we wish everyone the best in the Kyle Massey. Drama. Now, this is a great jumping off point from the Michael Jackson of it all parachutes in his all smiles with boyfriend after medical scares. So something really weird happened over the weekend. We're TMZ reported that Paris Jackson had attempted to commit suicide, and she was apparently in the hospital or whatever and like thirty minutes after that happened that we are seeing happened. Paris Jackson replied to Bethany Franco's tweet where Bethany Frago was like just talking about it. And if you're gonna ended up deleting her tweet, but she was like it's lies. It's lies. It's lies. And then she responded to the teams E tweet article saying that she committed suicide like shut the fuck up fucking mother fucking liars. All that then like an hour later. She was conveniently pop Roxy with her boyfriend. Whereas like she hasn't been paparazzi than years. It's all very weird. So parachutes stepped out with a smile on her boyfriend after being treated for a medical scare. That's what they're saying. Now e news had learned on Saturday, the twenty year old model and daughter of the Michael Jackson of the late. Michael Jackson had an incident that morning that required medical treatment. And that she was resting at home and doing fine. E news also learned the TMZ had. Report stating that emergency responders placed her under fifty one fifty hold at a local hospital for few hours that was untrue. Paris later posted on Instagram story, a selfie vehicle writing. Fuck you. I'm chilling like Bob Dylan on Saturday paresis Sodigraf driving and walking in with her boyfriend sound fibers bandmate Gabriel, Glenn. She was all smiles during outing. So I don't know. I mean when I heard that she had committed suicide before was anything. I'm like I was like that's so sad. I wasn't necessarily shocked 'cause she's always struggled with depression. And Alex the whole world is like talking about her dad, and I'm like, it's just sad. And it's so not her fault. And like object damn is this sucks. But then now just confused. I'm honestly now, I'm like becoming suspicious. Do you know what I mean? Yes, it just looks weird. So you think she actually did try to do suicide know, I don't know. I mean, she's I don't think you could just walk around out and about like the next day. I mean, if you're Paris Jackson, you could right? It's just the lawyers world that we live in has made me like so crazy suspicious of everyone. I know. And also, I don't even know if I believe any story doesn't have the celebrities hand in it, in some way, shape or form, totally. So maybe it's like a sympathy ploy totally and maybe the fuck you was like a denial even though she planted the story, right? No. I mean, just what I heard it. I was like damn it's almost like when Bobbi Kristina was really going through a very hard time. Yup. And then the story broke that she also was in the tub. I was like oh my God. That's so sad. But I wasn't necessarily shocked by now this was like the same thing I felt really badly. But I was like I almost felt a coming. And if she doesn't have like a strong support system around her Jimmy mean, not at all. I also I read a story that said that her and her brothers have not seen the documentary. OB Lee has she not a letter. I mean, would you like absolutely not right? Where's blanket? I don't know where are the other kids like how? Three. Yeah. So it's it's pairs prince and blanket, I went on one of their Instagram's I it might have been prince because I would remember seeing the name blink. And he has a very normal life. Really? Yeah. Like Paris really wanted to be like celebrity spun Calvin Klein glamour glamour, icon woman award. I'm she wanted that. And then I don't know if she can never get back to that. Just because like all the world is talking about now is like the horrible discussing vile things her dad, did do you think that her entire life and career will go down because of what her dad did? And is that fair? Right. I don't know. I mean, I I don't think that it will do you think she was used by? Oh my God. I didn't even think of that. That's the other thing. I think that the girls were safe. Oh, right. That's true. That is very true. Unlike what about blankets, and blah. What about blanket is looking at a girl or boy blanket is a boy, I believe. Okay. Remember when he put blanket over the balcony balcony with the blanket, that's the thing about the Michael Jackson scenario. It's like everyone's looked so shocked by it. But there was a lot of telltale signs that something was a mess like a running around getting paparazzi in hotel rooms on tour with kids to having kids being such a important part of your tour. We're like your music is rather provocative and saw your dance moves like reading or junk it. It's like a kid friendly environment. But there was so much about it that was focused on kids three. You literally bought a house and opened up a museum amusement park in your house for kids weird for you dig on your baby over a balcony hotel terrorist, like lots of weird things that I feel like maybe the world should have been. Paying attention to. Yeah. But maybe that's just me. Now, I am with you. But I was such a fan that I was like Michael really just the distributed it to him being like this. I convince myself he was a sexual I convince myself that he was a child what he convinced everybody else. I give myself of I was like he's a child at heart. So even though it's inappropriate to have former parties with kids he was robbed childhood thinks he's ten so thinks he's doing something normal were you I was wrong in denial until the documentary or some. Yup. Really like literally that far with that. So crazy. It's like I feel like one of those crazy R Kelly people. Yeah. I mean, they still exist on shop at court, and like, you know, the person he couldn't afford us bail. He was. Some some daycare own air owner because daycare owners have so much money and so much kids like. I didn't even think of that. So morally corrupt the Marley corrupt Resnick. I lived there. So many phrases I use in everyday life that I learned from house like the word pernicious, I only know because of Camille grammer, and honestly, I don't even know what it means. Just like don't prevent. I like literally the house is like defines my life. Like, I said, oh my home like after they're like designed like fucking Kyle Richards houses Sony's, wait. Do we think that Kyle Richards and Maurizio have the best marriage? Yeah. I mean, and they tried to throw a wrench in it member. When Lisa banner pumpkin, minced new to bring those magazines to Mexico. Yes. About about Marie sealed. Like having an affair. Yes. With a cross dresser or something like so like not real far fan. Yeah. And. It turned out obviously, not to be true. And they just have like a very, you know, what it is. They have a really like, obviously, they had the love but looking mutual respect for one another and each other's work. Like receive takes the house is fucking Searcy. And he's going to show up to fill with his agency hat on poop, Brandon everyone. Do you think that his agency today because of housewives yet, and they know that too? And that's why Kyle takes her job very seriously as as a housewife, and that's what she's created this alliance with Lisa Vander pump that is slowly crumbling slowly crumbling, and like when she talks about her house getting robbed like I feel so bad, but slash like, I wish I robbed her house, no statement, and she had a meeting style furniture. And now when she opened up her house for that barbecue, I wanted to buy everything in her house, and you know, who designed to nose is Faye Resnick. The Morley cla morally corrupt no matter how many bags you borrow. You will never be a lady not true. I loved it. I literally went shopping after I saw her out sometime I go on that automate I went on article. And I was like I want that autumn. I'll take that chair dining and I couldn't afford any of it or should it's expensive. But I bought on article which has been so premium for. Million reasons. One the deliver guy was so nice really give me he's coming to be there an hour is that. Okay. And I was like who the fuck is this six your article delivery? I was like, okay. And then it just showed up in my house, I go, and it was all just like put together, it was really a premium experience as a nice experience so articles offering our listeners fifty dollars off their first purchase one hundred dollars or more to claim visit article dot com slash toast, and the discount will be automatically apply to checkout. That's article dot com slash toast to get fifty dollars off your first purchase of one hundred dollars or more. No matter how many items every order shift at a flat rate of fifty dollars. And it's just like premium asked I got this fluffy ass autumn in that like when we feel with my home tour, Jackie music, Dan, Moore's from and I'm like, it's article. Ooh, when Jackie compliment, you on something like, you know, it's you know, it's good luck. Homegirl just doesn't like shell out communists. You know shit like that. But speaking of housewives, that's a great segue into our third story on your show, you struggle like segue. Segue into like, the hardest thing whenever I segue. Go at this segue. Yeah. No, it's which means it's hard. To say like, I'm going to segue out just to let people know what you're doing. It's really hard because you're proud of yourself get found fucking seques. So look just segue from housewives into entertainment tonight says that Lisa banner pumps appearance on the wheel house was a Beverly Hills reunion will be quote a game time decision there source set. So I don't know how legitimate is. But when are they filming shoot I have to assume g after a roller coaster season on real housewives of Beverly Hills. Lisa banner pump, isn't sure if she's ready for the reunion special a source tells entertainment tonight that the reality star quote hasn't made a decision on if she'll show up for the reunion or not it's very hard season for her and a lot of friendships have shifted. However, the cast of think she'd show for the premiere party and she did. Oh, she did. But she didn't get photograph because all the ladies post together except for Lisa Hahn. That's weird. So yes, even show. Well, they did. Well, you've even there. Right, right. The reality star admitted to ET's Bryce Sandra in February that she initially asked Bravo and housewives executive producer any Coen for year off the long running series after the death of her brother before ultimately, filming the shows, and I'd see. Okay, that's fair. Andy. Said I think we should have given you a year off when you ask for it. He said, I don't think we're in a mental state, and when you were really prepared to deal with it. It was a very emotional with hindsight, we probably should have given you the year off that wasn't English. I wasn't as prepared for combat as should have been she confessed the drama in Russia's Beverly Hills season nine centered around a rift between management co-star three comes. So wanna? So I want to get your hot takes on Venema roles. But here's the thing. If a minimum wanted to take a year off she could've right? She was not supposed to return the season before last and they give her a million dollars to stay just for the season. So she's on a season by season basis. And if she knew she wasn't in the right state. It was could have been her decision and Andy like taking the blame for it. I don't think it's right. I think it's really kind and generous vandy Andy, I think that Lisa is a control freak from what I know. And understand I think she's a lot of good sides. But I think that she's like I think that she kind of is this like chess playing manipulator no being friends with her is like playing chess with Bobby Fisher. Yes, I agree with that. That was Kyle Richards. And so I think that she doesn't want to leave one year because everything fry. Yep. Everything did go around. She's still here. Let's go way too comfortable, so tell me in the dog gate. Okay. My incident in so far behind. Okay, fine. So I won't make he'll in and I can see Tariq up this dog. Okay. From Ben from dogs, and we didn't know it at the time. But. A second dog that she had gotten the first one she had to get back because the dog was like aggressive or whatever this dog Lucy Lucy, apple juicy. That's. She got it bit her kids and that PK on the nose to pitch like he had a dash ks an asshole you probably deserved. So instead of returning the dog for a second time, I guess she was like embarrassed. Or didn't know whatever she found a home for it. Like this lady relate. She kills this lady really wanted the dog like Jerry, she was giving. It's like this. Nice family. Okay. Cut to like three days later, at least Vanderbilt gets a call from one of the shelters in LA like the dog ended up and kill shelter and Lisa's pissed and delete. Like is so embarrassed. Because like Kyle said it best. She like if you've got a reputation in this town for someone who like abuse animals like that doesn't go away now. And I do think we could have handled it way better. Like it was not the right decision. Just to give it to this random lady. But like her heart was in the right place. She obviously she had known that it would end up in a shelter. Like, she would have done something different. What was his name Lucy juicy Lucy Lucy. Apple juicy. I'm going to home watch the no. No. So now, it's like this all happened off camera of act, essentially, I guess we could have never known about it. But it was made a plot line because they show up at Trump dogs to fill Monday. And this guy John blizzard who works for Lisa Lisa claims to not know. But now there's pictures of him like literally at her bar mitzvah, like they're best friends like she's like, I don't even know Joan blizzard. And there's like literally voters in them to give to you. He looked brings it up. And he's like do you does this dog look familiar and Teddy's like is that three talk? Now, notice that your name is that Lucy, apple juice and leases like Joel do not talk about it. Sue, say don't wanna talk about it. So I was very confused because it definitely seemed like it was a setup to talk about it. But then Lisa's like not wanting to talk about it. So they go to lunch and to read and Lisa go to lunch, and she goes to eat I want you to know teddy knows about the dog. She's best friends at John blizzard. And Teddy's like I am not as to jump blizzard. Like, I did a soul cycle ride with John blizzard prevented Vandam dogs like to the bunny could benefit from dogs. Like, right. That's what are the extent of our relationship. But Lisa veterans really trying to make it seem like teddy down in the information. Because again, there's a ready arith- all share there's already rift between teddy delete and really Lisa's harping on that. So when we savannah from starts to like be weird teddy comes out full seem had. She's like are. You fucking kidding me? Like, I will do kind of. She goes. No, I was a part of this plan. Meet you and John blizzard how to plan to bring it up. On Vana from dogs when we rat. And I was all onboard until you start saying, no, I don't want to talk about it trying to make it seem like I'm the only one who's trying to she does this every single sees. So at first it really looks bad on Teddy's part because it's like you see text messages of teddy being like, okay, I'll bring it up advantage pump dogs. So teddy looks really complicit and teddy owns her. Like, I'm not a liar. I like teddy I hate to read I hated to read and I wanted to be a part of this plan to take her down. But then Lisa bene- pumped takes out of the equation to try and pin. It all on me. And I'm not fucking down for that. So I'm coming with all the receipts. So right now, it's not looking great for teddy. But I've been reading her blogs, which is an had been meaningless event. Trump's going to the blogs has been so helpful. There's so much more than we know. What do you think from the blogs from the blogs? It's that teddy is owning her part. Like there was this huge plan, and I took part of it. Because like sharia was mean to me at the reunion or whatever he's obviously Lisa set the plan classic, and then took herself out of the equation to make it look really bad for teddy. Which is what she always does everybody hold the bag. So now and now. Teddy's like just not holding back. It's igniting a fire under lease arena. Erica, Jane, and Kyle who have all been people who have been a part or like been a victim of these kinds of schemes and they're all coming for her so hard like it's bad. And they're telling the truth of when they were in the same position. Right. So we're like teddy we believe you because I mean, this is the best day of his life like who. So now, it's like I mean, there's no way that I have a better I would ever show up to the reunion like, she's she she lives manner from a lot of things, but she did not take accountability for actions infront ship. Like there's giving tickets like fucked up. I'm sorry, or you hurt my feelings. You should be sorry. You have to be able and that's what a good housewife as it's like you have to be in the drama, but then be able to own your part. Yes. And that's Lisa banner pumps, the biggest detriment is that she can never own up to like the smallest things her. Sorry. I'm sorry. You felt that way you even misinterpreted. My e. Observers interpreted my British humo-, you know, like yes shit. So I think there's no worse way to go out as a housewife then not showing up to the reunion a lot Adrian Malu back in the day. I don't think there's any way just because if Trump shows up she'll have to do the one thing she's incapable of and that's owning up to her shit. Do you think she's capable of doing it to stay on Ross's Beverly Hills? No, I don't think she's gonna show up to the reunion. And I think this is her last season as a housewife one way to go Lisa, but she setting it up for there to be. I think a reality show I've been banner from dogs because now we're not we know who John Sessa, and John blizzard are like why should I know 'cause they have a show coming up and applesauce Iwate juicy Lucy. Like, yes. So that's what I think it's all like master manipulation. Do you think that she said this up to get off? No, no. Because in her in her perfect world. This is never how it would have ended. You know, now, I have a question for you. Yeah. About just the inner workings of the relationships and the dynamics inventor proposals because minimum Berle's really isn't amazing show. Oh, besides the fact that leave and Trump is a part of it like time, they film it cert-. So super I don't care you try to tell me katie's waitress please, she gets paid five thousand dollars for an Instagram post. You know what? I mean. It's so fucking stupid. I mean, I actually think he does have to go and see. Yeah. You know, I'm just saying. But like her income is not break when she and Lawler like please said can we get two days off? It's like, are you kidding me? It's so stupid. So it's ridiculous. And now the tom-tom of it all it has brought us for a while. Like we were moving away from Lisa ran around like the show could have very well existed without her, but now tom-tom like she's very much back in the in the New York roof. Now, I want to ask, and you might not know the answer to this. But it seems really unfair that like Tom and Tom got this restaurant when they Tom Schwartz never really worked at, sir. He wasn't really an character on the show and like Jackson, really like bled out for the show, like his blood, sweat and tears went into embarrassing himself in the show, the faith of it all the Laura Lee of it all the fucking Carmen of it all or you know, what I mean like he's really been like, the heart and soul of the show, and like he really has been made out, and he's not reaping many of the rewards like. Whereas I touch worth like showed up to pump went ahead of panic attack and had to leave. That's like upset about it. I have no idea in regards to Jack's. But I think this is my opinion. I think that Lisa adores, Katie. Yeah. I think she hates jokes. And I think she hates jacks. And I wouldn't be surprised if key off camera had gone to lease been like how can we give Schwarzie? Yeah. Like a more in bona fide position on the Cavs. Yeah. And that just made sense. No, totally it just seems fucked up. I know we this housewife shit is crazy. No. I know. So who seamer you want verbally on team teddy? So it's like, so it's it's dance. It's teddy against Lisa. It's everyone against Lee said pretty much, but I mean, essentially grammars being so fucking thirsty like trying she's been now friend of housewife for two seasons. And like it's not enough for her. And she's like every time she gets a modicum of screen time. She just thirsts out to the furthest possible accent, and she fucking hates to read. So she's being on teen. Lisa, which is just making me hate her more. I don't think she's gonna show up. And I do think this is the last time and a lot of people are like you should be nice. Her brother passed away like it's really sad. But like, yes, I leaned Davidson was on an entire season. And didn't tell anyone that her mom died. Literally the day before they started filming. And Lisa van pump was so many her and took sedan from two seasons to come up and be like I wanted to apologize. Like literally like it wasn't until they were at it was with Eden Sassoon at the season finale. Yeah, it wasn't until that where she apologized for being so hard on I leave, and I leave is going through such a hard time and struggling silently yet. So it's like, you know, what I should feel bad for Lisa. But I don't what do you think? Lisa could say that could redeem her sorry, that's on it. In the words of Lisa run-up own at Lisa owned it. There's just something like humbling about the house. It's like, no matter how much everyone loves you at some point you fuck up, and you have to apologize and LIZA banner promise never been putting that position or she hasn't. She's just somehow circumvented that is my least favorite quality and even be shamed. Lack of self awareness, lack of just knowing when you're wrong like I'm wrong all the fucking time. All the time. I am sorry all the time. And there's something like, really grounding. About just like owning it get right? She can't do actually feels. I don't get people who think that apologies like make them weak. I couldn't agree more. It actually makes you like so like relatable and strong. That's why Bethany drives me nuts because I don't think she's good at taking accountability. Better in the last couple of see signs that I agree with. But I do often think she's put in positions to take down ability for things like there's no accountability that needs to be taken like saying that she didn't think Arinda enough for the nutcracker is just going to say like she couldn't thank during a more for the nutcracker. Would. Are you kidding me? First of all did you see her? She was literally crying like screaming at the top of her lungs. Yes. And apparently what they sent him on like during the didn't even get it for me. Like, I she gave me her guy. And then like, I went back and forth. I paid for it. Like it was him. And I on whereas like he just a gave her the contact. Oh, she's like, here's a guy. Call right, but still and lease and she was very appreciative in the berkshires or wherever they did it like, I'm sorry. She they put her in these positions. They hold her to a higher standard. That's true. I'm also just like a Bethany. Just and I owned that like I would venture to the death. I love her so much. Did you always love Lisa before the season? No. I've always known that Leeson anti-trump was the way that she was. Yep. Me too. If you can't be my friend, and please don't be my enemy like she was manipulating back Taylor Armstrong. I know it's I've known from the very beginning team. But there's yes, that's where it started to unravel. Oh, my weight and forget on this season. How fucking Vander pump started. She had brandy engine shoot. Which Brady was her rider died like a really good friend friends with kenan's like you're gonna put her in that position. Oh with the lady who broke up your family. Unreal. Unreal. Okay. Speaking of unreal. I don't know. That's my right from people magazine, David foster jokes that he'd be in jail right now if his daughter had wanted to go to college, basically of David Erin, foster put up a screen shot of a tech such from her dead on Ceram. Thank god. You don't wanna go to college? I'd be in jail right now. Oh my God. And you know, and she kept it. Thanks for the confidence. Dad several stars. A common funny, including including Nina Dobrev, who wrote a cat with three crying, laughing emojis bases and Selma. Blair who wrote really is the best post. Lisa renna. Meanwhile, simply commented David while. Katie Couric added your dad with a sunglasses emoji as captured by Instagram. So I thought it was funny when I saw it, but I'm like damn people have taken this thing. So seriously, I'm like, I know she's gonna get in trouble. But she did it because like famous spun can I guess do whatever they want. Exactly. But what are your thoughts here on the on the college admission scandal, I sing? It's. I would like to believe that. I would not do that for my children, but I don't have kids, and I know how much I love my girlfriend, and I know how much love like my brother my sister. I'm like my dog. I would like fucking. I don't have a dog. But if I did I, but like, I would kill cheat and steal. So like a part of me feels like I kind of understand it. But I feel like society has taken a moral high ground on them like your bad. And it's like you are bad. What you did was wrong wrong. You took away a spot from a kid who really worked hard and just didn't have the access that you did. And that's act talked up. But I have a hard time believing that a lot of people who if they were in that position and had unlimited resources money power. Like they wanted to the same for their kids. You know? Plus if everybody in the community is doing it, which clearly they were right, then it's like normalized, right? It's like, well, so and so down the street, you're doing it. Right. And it's like Hollywood is just like pretentious bubble that you don't even realize something's fucked up until the rest of the world finds out about it. Although a lithium mum said it's not about the love of their children. It's about them having like. An elite degree which I also agree with that. Joe? Jackie said a great point. She's like, okay. So your kid doesn't deserve to go to the school. Now. How are they going to survive? They're not that. You're actually putting them. You're doing them a disservice by letting them think that they're great and amazing. And then like they go and they flop in. They're like why couldn't I do? What I I was just good as everyone else, man. You weren't you deserve to be in that school. I go back. It's wrong. My little brother. He went to Harvard. Shut the fuck up. He's a wicked smile the one that went to my show. Yes. It was a Harvard. Grad at my show, that's the first. And now, he's premed shut the fuck probably. Probably yet. No anymore. I know Margo totally doctor a Harvard die. Bergman is something. Shut up show shoot shooter working girl back then also never wasted of chalk continue. So he wrote. So my dad went Harvard. So it's like you did you go to one hundred and certainly not college college. My parents were furious at me. I didn't know you keep we're making smart family. I do and my mom went to BC. And my sister went to be saved the black family. I I just go talks. Right. Oh, yes. Honey. He's income to New York and do it. Okay. Good. You want him to inject show done Sunday. I tell you know, can do notice. No. Which is a good thing. I did very little. And now when I go back, I'm going to need to do more. Because like, I'm hooked. I really liked it like change my life. Sorry continue. I keep interest. I wanna I actually want to do all the stuff. Didn't you do something with her chain? Of course. Yes. I did the natural necklaced. What is it's basically a outpatient liposuction for your chin and not only that 'cause like anyone can do that. But she patented this great surgery, and I only recommend Dr Chung easy to do it because it's her surgery. So and bye by have no scars. She went in through the bottom of a lobes in my ears and had like a little scab there. And then it went away. It was crazy. I don't know how it like help. But I was and I was also just on drugs ending way. Dramatic low tolerance for me. Take wicked dramatic. Don't take like advice for me. But not only did she like suck the chin-. Because when you look at my double chin, I was I need. I'm like, I want this. But was she also did was removed fat for my jowls. So because you don't realize that when you gain weight, and you get fat in your face, the fat in your jowls brings your whole face to like kind of sad. So because I was only twenty three when I had the surgery, right? She removed the fat for my genitals, which kind of lifted my base backup back to like the elasticity like the way that it was supposed to be. So it was really just like a great procedure. Well, it looks fucking fabulous. You wanna intro for any work? I love sharing pretty much. Do I tell everyone like I have literally recommended one thousand people for that surgery. I am soya and people think that I'm like being mean like you needed surgery. No. I'm just like I want everyone to feel good. That is. I do you know what I mean? Yeah. He's starting to please finish your thought. So my brother he so my dad was legacy. So obviously that connection it helps. But it's not a guarantee you get great. And my dad like couldn't my dad interviews for Harvard, but he couldn't interview his own son separatism. So my brother wrote his essay like went downstairs talked to the family like like they went over it, and they like gave notes, blah, blah and afterwards. My brother decided to go upstairs and rewrite the essays from scratch because he said, that's the fact that my parents helped him meant that it wasn't hundred percent kiss on head to toe. Honorable that is an Ivy league student. So I would love to get your opinion on this. Because now a lot of the discourse around this. Sorry, those girls subject is like, okay. So that's an illegal way of getting into college. But there are like more considered moral ways, donating a building. Or that's the thing is people do do that as well. And have for years, right? It's kind of this gray area. And also now why you legacy is considered a leg up because like Eddie up even though it necessarily doesn't mean just 'cause like your dad went to Harvard. Doesn't mean you're smart. You know, what I mean, it's considered it's considered like a leg up people say, so what's the difference between that and doing it? The more illegal way. Right. And we'll and here's a date. Like, I think that the girls should be all expelled or all the kids. Oh, you do ABSA will the Laughlin girls have decided not to return on their own. Well, the bully alone believe they weren't expelled. Yeah. I mean US he was just taking their sweet time again decision, and they didn't want to wait for the decision. They're never mind we're out. So they should have expelled them. The parents should definitely be. I don't know find or something but going to jail and having the FBI drug guns at six AM. Yeah. It's a little extra. Also, then it opens up a whole other conversation where one of the toasters put me onto this threat on Twitter that was really upsetting. And it was different cases in which poor or black women were did similar things. Like they lied about their district. So there could go to the better school or like they were homeless, and they said they lived here. So the kids get into the public school in that district yet, and they were literally sentenced to jail like for like five or to twelve years now sea TAC case, I would say that led that go, right, of course. And it's like that's so fucked up and then most likely like Lord Laughlin, Felicity Huffman, like won't do time. Right. Just because of their privilege. That's not fair. I neither is the other situation. I don't think either of the women should go to jail. Do. You know what I mean? I think jail is way harsh, Ty. Right. Anyone for anyone? I think it's a slap on the wrist and like a financial punishment. You know, and then your kids get expelled from the school. So it's like what's the point of even doing if they get caught? It's like your money's loss. Anyway, right until USC released a statement being like, we've become aware like the US government has made it clear that we are a victim in this. We had no idea like are. Yeah. I would love to hear your thoughts on that. Because when I read that I'm like, that's really low. I've literally no doubt in my mind that like someone in admissions knew exactly what was going on. My conspiracy theory is is that the FBI they don't just invest keep things for like the sake of it, Felicity Huffman. Right. You know? Well, now it's coming out. The reason why they know all about this. Because one this guy whose daughter went to Yale. He was being investigated completely separately like SEC like Wall Street bullshit. And he was like I have a great story for you released. My time gimme immunity or some shit. And I'll tell you about this ring of celebrities rich people all because of the little rat. Yeah. Hungary's he's only my God. All this one guy. I know that's crazy weasel season. So I feel like though that this is just the first here. This is my conspiracy theory at the FBI went in there making examples out of these celebrities because they can and then I think the second phase is going to be trying to figure out which schools or actually. Culpable implicit. Yeah. And complicit and which schools need to be like then seriously find and punish and that I'm here for. Yeah. But also like the rejigging of the system women who are sitting in prison right now for just trying to give their kids a better life. Like, are you kidding? Yeah. Like, I just read was so it was like picture after picture of different moms who were either homeless or just like really out, and they're literally sitting in jail how crazies mail fraud. It's bullshit. Yeah. God. And then it's like, that's why people are so incensed by this because like most likely like nothing's going to happen. Really right in terms of jail time like they'll have to pay. But like they're billionaires like it's not a big it's on a problem for that. It's just like it's so corrupt. And this is what Kim kardashian's out here. Trying to do prison reform. Do you see the work that can Kardashian suing Twitter Korol? I see what she's I love her. Like, I really like every time she breathes. I'm giving more reason to just out here like defendants Danner. I I can't when she was screaming at her sister's Japan over they're out there. So funny so pissed now I'm sorry. It was so funny. I'm talking about this story because it's so funny. And I absolutely love the subject of this story. And like like, I said I'm out here. Just to I use this shows a platform to defend people that I liked that's literally at southern charm starship rose zero charm in getting tossed from the IP ten there's a video golf's a gentleman's game. So it's no surprise southern chip star southern ship southern charm, starship got his ass ojected from VIP tent when he started acting the fool, that's one TMZ. I would never say that. I love it. We're told chef hit up the Players Championship Friday at sawgrass in Ponte Vedra Beach, Florida where he had an incredible view of the seventeenth hole from inside the pavilion. VIP ten. We this is at the event tell us Shep drink a little too much booze became belligerent and pestering guests. He also got up and started dancing blocking people's view. Told a woman working the event ash-shaeb to leave but he refused. That's when Saint Johns county sheriff's deputies stepped in a spokesperson, tell us that the deputies working the event escorted ship out of the tent out of the tent, by the way, teams, he writes in English. I never out of the tent they were OTA outta ten without incident. He was not arrested and removed from the tent, but just not from the event lucky guy the Players Championship. Arguably has the best class of golfers from top to bottom so lots of break off to watch. I mean, this is so funny, and honestly like golf is so boring. It's you just want to drink and party and dance like almost ship. I'm gonna VIP tent like I'm like throwing down listening to music and everyone so boring golf with like their collared shirts taking him out. Taking out. I love me too. I'm so not surprised by this shed gets fucking sh- wasted. Yeah. We're ever he go. And that's why he's a good time. And that's why he makes for great television. I know is he like any threat of any sort of immediate. And no he wasn't arrested. They just kicked him out of the ten. He still got to stay at the event. But just like not in the special Ben tent which like saw. Hey question. So you love chef I love chef. But would you ever let ship date somebody you love to be honest. Yeah. Really because I feel like what we see on the show's really not him like anytime, we've hung out like me. Look very meaningful conversations like about books, and I just like pretend to know books. He's talking about which I don't know like Moby, Dick or something. I knew what you were going to say that every time. I check I love him like, he's really charming, very charming southern charm. And I have never seen him be like rude or respectful to a woman. But maybe an and maybe that's just like an act that he plays on on TV or that is who he is. But like married, and he respects me, I don't know. Right. I like him. I would let them take someone. I know highs hottest buck. He's so handsome. He's a little dopey. Yeah. But like an hot like frat Broadway. Yeah. I mean, he does have Peter Pan syndrome. It's annoying should acids when you do watch charm that religiously, gee, what are your thoughts on Craig I feel like bad for him? Like when the first chauffeur's aired on the Craig is hot like, I want crack get a rag is too skinny yet. Which agree words, those words never come out of no such thing. But he's just like I mean, and no me I hate that. Her name is no me because it's Naomi, wait. But for whatever reason, they call her Nomi, they do I mean, she's been on the show. I call on will Craig calls or no me, maybe he's just like weird with his act, but she's French. So like how do they pronounce? That's what I'm wondering. If if it's that. But I love her me too. And so the fact that she's like so sick of him says it all yeah. No. I feel like the show is great for him. But like his life would've turned out so differently. If you hadn't gone on the show, do you know what I mean is that right? Oh better. Is he gonna be back to season he moved to the Bahamas or some shit. Like, he's always in the Bahamas. I have no idea. I just love this story. I think it's hilarious. That's actually something that would happen to me because like any momentum eventally, and it turns out to be like a sous. That's like, where's the bar the DJ the dick floor. Probably champ was just trying to do. I feel like I said I did that at your sister's wedding wasn't as new says. No. But it was an amazing natural kingdom. And there was like tequila shots all around like you were just doing what you were told. Oh my God. I haram asked a harassed Selena Gomez. Oh my God. We that was so funny. Okay. So I only saw the next morning on your Instagram story. But my half brother brought it and she was like this beautiful girl. And she really did look like Selena Gomez Taylor walks into the party room from cocktail hour, and he's like Instagram during clearly I've already waited too. She's in scrimps storing, and like she gets my half brothers date in the picture, and she's like filming and you could you're drunk voice background. She's like, oh, man. Have you like Zilina Gomez? Funny. I literally screen according to instead to everyone. I knew I just thought it was funny because as she willing to look let's leaning be it was like that was like the druggist like whenever you're in a bathroom. It'd be nice to girls when. It was so funny. Oh my God. She's doing out with her. No just that one kept on dancing to my God. He wants so funny. Like, I truly was diet was honestly like premium fucking on. Oh my God. You enjoyed it. What are you watching on TV now betterment grows on tonight where you watching the backyard, you don't want I'm not a bachelor person? And I feel like I have to be my mom and dad watch it honestly, just feel like your career like like, I hate it. But a lot of people literally tune into the show into it a while ago, and before it was cool, and it gives cities and so good like there was real. Like, Emily, Maynard like, she was a real girl who was her fiance like she just wanted love. Now, it used to be like out of the thirty girls started like maybe one or two of them's really there for the wrong reasons like to get their own TV show. Yes. Now out of the thirty girls. There's one or two there who were like actually there find love, and it's terrible. I know and I really don't feel like anything's real anymore. It's just the time commitment, and I don't know. I mean, my money's are back. I have I'm getting a haircut tonight. And I'm going to dinner with his parents all in the time that it would have been fucking watching the bachelor say, it's bullshit. Why don't we just all like revolt, they refuse to watch it? Okay. So I that nobody did it with me. And every time they announced to the bachelor or the bachelorette is there like we hate them. More review. Bolting everyone always comes back to watch again. And I feel left out. And I do think like for work like, it's just not wise. I not to watch it because like people like rely on the toast to recap and keep them in tune. I know shit a fine. I will jump back on for bachelorette. Yeah. And it's going to be a weird season. Because she's like Kampe two words together. It's very unreal. Yes. What about bachelor in paradise? Oh, it's so good like good. But the annoying thing is I haven't watched for so many years. No, not only that it's like the characters come off this these past two three seasons. And it's like you want to know them and get to know them first. And so when you don't know anything about them, and they come on paradise. It's like, you're missing something, you know, the knowledge so maybe I'll just go back and binge wash. It there's only what fifty seven fucking thousand episodes watch like old season. It's actually really interesting. I watched one with like Andrew Firestone of that's like really old. I know like Jesse Palmer who does Daily Mail TV the hotel. Yes, he was the first bachelor. I actually I did with him. Him and my girlfriend was like are you scared? And I was like I don't know who he addition with him. He was doing Daily Mail, and I like auditioned to be like a correspondent up, and I was bad. Stop. You do a lot of like hosting. I try to do more of the F T Tf Q. Maybe maybe not younger getting younger again. Really good at that. Yeah. Thank you. I actually just yesterday on followed negro Twitter on Instagram. Why just because it's a lot. He's a lot. He's he's very into like the ball. Yeah. And I like it, but I'm not married, right? It's like it's a little tell me some T art porn. Yes. Thomasson t about the younger crew. Like, what goes on behind the scenes? I don't know that there is an ET. They're overly fucking nice. Anyone not nice? Not like literally. No one's not nice. I thought Hillary Duff. Maybe wasn't nice, right? She wasn't nice to me when I was a teenager in the Bahamas. And if you could send the message because we really like she trauma. Ties me what was always been like celebrity obsessed like the fact that they do this for a living is not shocking since the Cory in the house days have really been obsessed and me and my friends went to the Bahamas Atlantis for spring break. Of course. And we were like sixteen we're in the casino like they couldn't do anything. So we were just standing around and fucking. That's where I met. Andy Cohen for the first time we have this picture on my sofa. And this is when Atlanta's was at its peak, and then fucking Hilary Duff was there, and like this was like right after Lizzie McGuire movie. Like we were obsessed and we were just staring at her and she literally comes over to me. And my group of friends like we're like wearing our wedges we're like tiny. She goes if I take a picture with you will you stop staring. I love that. I like, yeah. I would take a picture, but like it made me feel uncomfortable. And like really like a now anytime anytime anyone has ever asked me for a photo. I'm like not be Duff to. Like, I'm just like so scarred by it. And it's the worst to this day. The worst interaction I've ever had with the celebrity. She so last will was it. The first episode until I said that please. No. Okay. So the first episode of last season, it was the entire cast in Hilary bailed out super last minute. And I was like funk Jewish pregnant. She was praying Oga, exactly. So when it came around for the season finale because she's out in California, she flew out for it. And when she came. She was like I'm so sorry that I was here. I was so pregnant that I felt like if I put one more pair of specs I would like literally smush to death. I feel like when that happened to me she was in her twenties and just like a bitch like paparazzi like Lizzie lo Han vibe total now she's been grounded by the fact that like she's a mom and has acceptable career behind her. Also, I love her Instagram or should I call pop Roxy yet. I really like her. But like I'll never be able to forget that one heart by isn't that crazy because think about it? I mean, it can have such an impact on you like you're also to position now, we're like you could give somebody that day too. It's why I need, you know, I would never say that. Well, that's that's true. That that that would that would take effort at very least like I'm only. Like, some if it ever goes badly. If someone SR pictures, just like, I'm tired, and I'm not like people expect me to like, denser, me dance, your funny. They could choke like, and I'm just like are you, you know, like, I might be just like a letdown in person have you ever had somebody like shades you in person one time and not in person. I was in Seine where the fuck was. I you travel the world. No. I really don't where the fuck whatever the egg was San Antonio sent Hawn. Oh, no. Honestly, I have no idea Francisco San something. So maybe San Francisco, okay? And it was the opening of spin the ping pong place in the city to a new location hosted there, and I ran a contest on my Instagram like three girls to win and winners were contacted to ten come show up. I had like a table and everything and it was hanging out with the winners. And I actually stayed longer only to say from eight to ten 'cause I was like having such a good time and a ten thirty one of the girl shows up, and I left it eleven and our after I was supposed to leave. And I was like take the table. I learned French fries bottles. I'm like go ahead. And she sent me the nastiest message like I gotta blow up you're such a disappointment. You're entitled bitch issue with thirty minutes. Now still fucking there. Are you kidding me on? Mcgill so bad. That's the worst message together. Like that like when somebody meets you, let them down and like, I really have try super hard like always be like this in person. Yes. And but it's really hard to always maintain. And it's like, are you kidding me? Like you were thirty minutes late. The event was technically over for lay. Literally, the fact that you were. So there was kind of like obliged having so much fun. It was pingpong, and there was like a ping pong competition that me and Ben play doubles against like actual to like Olympic ping pong or you guys win. Of course, not I couldn't even get the ball over the table. It was a great event. Like, she just like put a terrible taste in my mouth. I see the world girl. You look you look with your white boots. Thanks, you like this acid. I do we'll you'll be seeing a lot since my brand new. It's uniform. I have four of these. Oh, gee, what colors Justice same color, you cute. I like white booth. I feel like I'm sweating profusely through my dress. I'm always sweating. Oh my God. And I feel like like for shoot like shoes for like this time of year or super hard because it's like winter. But it's like not I know, you know, oser cue. Thank you. I've been like really into now that I have this new shoe wall in my apartment recipes recipes Carl obviously about this because now that he died like the price went down. And I'm going to ask you to us or central. We've afraid. Now there have these two new glamorous she walls in my closet. I just buy shoes for the sake of having them in my closet. You know what I mean? I remember when I had my apartment Tribeca, I did the same thing because I have to fill in my closet, right? So now, I'm like I gotta get into. When I saw Jimmy is a sponsor of the toast, and they like Bill pick out a pair. I'm like can I get six like just a sushi? Well, no. No. But they're actually really cute, and I got boots and Jackie got sneakers and Jackie Lee ward sneakers to the bone like they got hold on the bottom and she had to ask for another pair. We're just like thirsty with all of our sponsors. Can we have more free product? But Jebby is actually now just that they're selling them at Bloomingdale's, and I'm like damn the Chozas really making these brands pop off and Jimmy is basically the same quality like leather shoes. Gucci like all the like high Italian luxury brands make but it's like a normal price. So it's like, yeah. This is their logo ready made the old way sold the new way and like it. Yes. So here we obviously have a code for you. 'cause like what is this show without codes? Go see for yourself. How amazing these shoes are at 'em. Jimmy dot com slash toast for fifty dollars off your first pair, that's letters M G E M I dot com slash toast for fifty dollars off your first pair, m Jimmy dot com slash toast. Em jemmy Italian luxury may dealed way sold the new way. I have so enjoyed hang out with you. Is there anything else you want to talk about like updates you want to share with the group? I don't think so you were just like killing it. I'm just house this show. So by the way for those who are maybe new toasters Tillis checkers, a longtime friend of the toast. But is an OG radio host serious for eleven years. Eleven twelve around crazy crazy. And now you do your own radio show Monday through Friday at three hours to two yet. Ari never full long. It's so long on my God. I we'll sit with you once when you were doing your three hour show. I used to be guests like ten minutes. And then you need a coast like one day seven AM to ten I am. And I was like this bitch. I got there at like six thirty. I was like trying to set up this bitch roles in at six fifty nine ready. It was the hardest longest day of my life. Right. It's like soul, crushes just sucking. So now, you do what? Eight to ten eight ten much better yet Monday to Friday, it's live you can call in. It's called the Taylor trucker show, and you can subscribe at Taylor's are dot com. And then also my podcasts tastes as Taylor. Which is like a little taste of Taylor. You gotta grow like that name. Thank you. And they're like little picture on it. It's like, it's taste of Taylor. Which is me. And then some porn starting Taylor. Shut the fuck up where she has one coltie cer- Taylor. Oh, and you just didn't episode. But Jackie that people like raved about I haven't listened to it yet. But Shimo loved it, not autrey. Guess Jason Taylor. Yes. What did you get to talk about? We talk. You. Tell me total. We were we were actually gonna talk a little bit about the wedding. And then we got totally off course. And we just talked about like the industry. I had no idea how she got involved in this business. And I had no idea how you guys even wanted to start doing the morning toes shy. Choke. She really is like has weirdly knew she only worked in a corporate setting for like three or four years. Yeah. She is with what is it wealth of knowledge as a wealth of knowledge. Well, live beyond to you. She's that's why she's like really like the HR compliance. Businesswoman of this show. I'm just like the outlier like problem child's I love her. Well, she's at Gerry Judy right now. I know ching. I wonder if he's bored told her have you ever did you serve Judy in Boston or here here torture? I had to serve right before my wedding. I wish I'd serve through my wedding. So I didn't get married LL, my friend Jenna had a jury duty with Donald Trump like shut before he was saying he was just like a New York resident like businessman, and he was like thinking about running for president Xi. And she actually sent me a picture actually should ask her for it. It was a crazy est. Didn't did. He was like shaking hands with everyone know crazy. You can you believe he's our president Taylor swift? Does jury duty mean. Yeah. Everyone does. I mean, she skipped out on the Grammys to go to jury duty. But that was like right after the kind of thing happened in. I'm sure she could have gotten out of it. You can get out of it. I think that they can find ways to get out of it. But I think eventually we all must serve our civic duty. It's bullshit by an idea. What they should just like have a jury like in every county like twelve people who it's like their fulltime jobs, and like you train them to be unbiased. I'll greet you train them to be like not bias you train them to like look for whatever like these people who like their professional job is to be like unbiased jurors. Yes. Instead of like, wait, like honest, one say like I would be terrible juror like so I'll put the person is wearing our could decide if they're guilty or not. Yes. I think it's brilliant. Okay. You off you were going to say something on that Taylor swift. I never understood the love of her that you had and then I watched the reputation world tour. Oh my God. You know, it's so funny. It's like out of all the things she's done like reputation Wiltord is like the least impressive for me. Really? Yeah. Like, you should really watch journey to. Fearless. I was sore. Speak now world tour. I'll give you a list of things. Okay. Okay. Well, everyone thinks Taylor fulfilling in for Jackie while she's being the rural juror. We are back tomorrow with Brian Kelly co who is the point sky, we're going to do like a whole credit card themed like points like advice segment like basically people just right in there. Like, hey, this Mitch debt, and like I need this like, ooh, figures it out for them. He's he's a genius. And he'll switch like a private jets. Like on me. I won't talk about that. And you're on private jet to. Yeah. Where did you go? I went from your LA. Oh, that's a great flight a harm. And did you find is early Erlichs? Then is and who plan was it. I can't say we told me after I won't get if I guess I'll tell you. That's what I was saying I've been in private jets many a time, but it can overlook take a picture or like thirst out or like making a big deal because always belong to some rich person. And like, I don't wanna be like that thirsty. Loser. Exactly on the plane. It was just me migrant TJ, and like we were all thirsty. What was that plane just chartered it? And by we I mean, thank you so much for being here. The morning show. Streams live Monday through Friday, ten thirty eastern time on YouTube, and then we're also. Available as podcasts pretty much anywhere. You can find podcast at the morning toast. I'm cloudy Ostra, girl. Job feel free to follow Taylor. Strecker on Instagram at Taylor Strecker and the tiller Strecker show at dot com yet. Oh, wow. I got that. Right. I wasn't expecting to you press. We will see you guys. Tomorrow. Have an amazing blessed day.

Lisa Lisa Michael Jackson Paris Jackson Trump Kyle Kyle Massey Saint Patrick Kyle Richards Taylor Armstrong Jane Doe Jackie John blizzard New York City Lisa Vander New York Cory Beverly Hills LA Chanel
"Fat Rabbits"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:08:36 hr | 6 months ago

"Fat Rabbits"

"Previously from the Tony Kornheiser show. So, yesterday I don't know about two o'clock. I'm walking the dog I'm walking Jesse and. Somebody in a car a car that actually looks like. He stole it off a lot. It's just like the oldest car I've ever seen turns around big sweeping turn and I. Look, it's devil, it's. It's never and so we started to talk. Well it doesn't look good. New Car. This is General George Washington and you're listening to Tony Kornheiser. Show all right for those of you who care. We are still at Uncle Ben's table. Michael is socially distance. At six feet away from me and uncle, Ben's table and we are going to do a loaded guests show today just in terms of News Karen, Johnson who Jason Lockenfora talked about the other day who was in Romania, playing basketball with his pregnant wife, and could not get back to the United States is back according to Yahoo Sports. He is back. That is something that everybody I'm sure in. The family feels good about Steve. Sands joins us now and and there is going to be live golf. It's not going to have faint well, you know. I couldn't even say what it's not going to have. I'll ask Steve all about. This is the colonial it is in Fort Worth Texas. It is an. Old. Tournament that people love and respect if I'm not mistaken. Annika Sorenstam. Played at one right Steve Dynamic of Sorenstam's play that one tournament, and then get an not play against men anymore and proved that she could do pretty well. Am I right on that about ten twelve years ago? Yeah exactly right. Yeah I remember that remember that so anyway, so it's going to be a great field I. Let's discuss. What are they going to do a or they're going to be fans. Be Our players going to be tested see? Is there anything sort of extraordinary in the coverage that makes it different than what you're used to. Own. Different no fans, no hospitality tents, so you won't see the grandstands and you own see those hospitality tents around the fairways and Greens that you normally would see tee boxes. With people clinking glasses having fun, and you know drinking and eating, and just watching the greatest players in the world. Play Golf. So that's the first thing you'll notice the silence and a lack of grandstands when you watch on. TV, the getting tomorrow on the other thing is the players have been tested the last couple of days. there have been no withdraws. That's that's significant. Tony which means no one has positive. on the PGA tour at colonial or in Ponte Vedra Beach Florida at the Korn Ferry tour, so no withdraws the winds two days, which means bill, buddy, neither caddy, nor a player has tested positive. It's GonNa. Look and feel different I think people are GonNa Watch sports. Would know fans unlike Nascar Tony where you hear the roar of the engines going around the track in golf there will be no palpable noise or buzz or commotion or People Walking Around It'll look a lot different beginning tomorrow. So there will be caddies. Will they be able to remove the flag sticks? Will they be able to hand a club to their player? Yes they will they. They'll be social distancing and that is a very important message The PGA tour wants to convey to the audience that you can play the game and also do it in a responsible Safeway in the times we're in with social distancing They will be able to touch. flack ticks unlike what we saw at the two exhibition matches a couple of weeks ago at seminal and the. The medalist the guys will be able to touch the flagstick and rakes. There won't be as many rakes on the golf, course but that part of the game you won't notice that part of the game will be the same except for when you see those scenes in golf, or they're waiting on a tee box or where they're waiting around green You won't see guys standing so close to one another. Here's what you often see. A player lines up a PUTT A caddy is right behind him a caddy lineup apart. They're very physically close often. Hand on shoulder often, but I know they won't do that now. Will we see that? No you're supposed to stay six feet away now i. think that is instinctively I think people almost would muscle memory will go into their normal routine even though they haven't played competitively and thirteen weeks the guys still have their same routine that they've always gone through all these years. especially guys. Who have caddies who have worked together for ever and ever so say take James Edmonson is the caddy. He's been a club champion at colonial for years, multiple times His boss Ryan Palmer is a member at colonial. Those two have been going around that golf course Tony Together as best friends and caddies. In player relationship for years all over the world, but especially there in Fort Worth at colonial It's GonNa be an odd. Thing for them, but they're gonNA. Try their best to again. Convey that message to the world that let's play this game. Let's play responsibly and keep our social distancing. It's GonNa. They'RE GONNA be a couple of missteps where people kind of chuckle a little bit where they get too close to one another and they have to Kinda back away. There's no doubt about that. When you read about and listen to commentary on the NBA. They talk about everybody being in a bubble everybody into. Orlando nobody leaving the bubble. Once you get in, you cannot leave. Golf is a game of individuals, not teams. Is there a bubble for golfers? And I was listening to you. Talk to will on the other day about this. Is he going to be coming to Orlando for a month as that sounded July? On wilpon. Sitting in sweltering heat of central Florida for more than a month yes I mean what the bubble is different in the NBA what they're trying to do and Major League Baseball what they're going to do. As well in the NHL. It's very simple when an NBA team travels to Orlando and then they get into a hotel. That's the lockdown then they go to and from the arena. At Walt Disney world, and that's it. Golf is so different to you and Michael Notice it's. It's it's a hundred forty eight players this week. With a hundred forty eight caddies there officials there people from the tour that people from the event and they're all individuals they they don't work for anyone other than themselves, so there are multiple hotels. You can't really legislate whether or not the guys go out to dinner. Grab a sub and bring it back to their room. have takeout or have it delivered. You can't really legislate that. The bubble that the PGA tour is trying to put together is not nearly as tight as they would be in team sports where the collective bargaining agreement and players all travel with each other as opposed to individual I. It's a some more challenging. Challenging Sport logistically in that regard but it is the least challenging wants. The competition is going on inside the ropes, not have checking in and box out and getting you know tackles and and and Gore's right. They're spending all other that kind of thing and check each other into the board so what you gain in the competition you lose in that bubble sense or when they're away from the golf course. Is there a plan? You Talk to people in golf all the time and when I say a plan just needed in the loosest sense. Is there anything that they're aiming for in terms of bringing back fans, or they just say no. We're not going to even think about that yet. Yeah they're doing it in blocks Tony So. Unfortunately with the no fans being allowed in certain places. you're seeing a scheduled kind of piecemeal together because some events are being canceled, John Deere Classic Illinois had to be canceled because they just couldn't make it without fans, so they're doing it in four tournament blocks. You have this week at the colonial, no fans, and then no fans all the way through Hilton head next week, and then Hartford the following week, and then outside Detroit at the rocket mortgage will be the fourth event. Then may go to Columbus. Ohio for two weeks in a row. That's the John. Deere was canceled. They replace that event with an event at Jack Nicklaus's Muirfield village in Ohio just outside Columbus that first week that replaying there is going to be sponsored by Workday, no fans, but then at Jackson. They're gonNA be upwards of eight thousand fans a day. Mike Dewine the governor of Ohio. is allowing fans to be played that week so five weeks from now. You'll see fans at a PGA tour of and scheduled right now just knows what's going to happen in the next five weeks, but right now five weeks from now at the memorial, Jack Nicklaus's event, which will have everybody playing the field will be stacked that week at Jack Place. They will be upwards of eight thousand fans per day that week. There's a the field here you've got the top five got eight of the top ten of the top ten. We're not there. It's because I think they are European and it's hard to negotiate the travel. You don't have tiger, but you got almost everybody else, right. Yes, I mean the the guys as you can imagine Tony. Are Jones to compete and everybody's ready to go I was a little surprised to tiger. Didn't play this week I. Don't know if it's if it's a health issue. I have no idea what the deal is, but you would think remembered. When the players was called on that Thursday night after the first round thirteen weeks ago, tiger hadn't played for a multiple for that also meant that a half before that at Torrey. Pines outside San, Diego so it's been a long time since tigers competed on the PGA tour. But everybody's there. outside of those guys who said would travel issues, and tiger this week and I think the feels are going to be really really strong. The next two or three weeks there might be a little bit of a lull there with Detroit, and then when they go to Columbus I fully unless he's not healthy, and unless there are still travel restrictions I literally think you could. Could see like perhaps every single person in the top thirty or top forty play in Jackson Memorial I think that they will not they not only want kiss the ring of Jack Nicholas, but it's just such a great golf. Course it's great tournament, and it's perfectly timed a couple of weeks before the first major championship, which is scheduled in San, Francisco at harding. Park the PGA Championship in August. Will the players you know? Be miked up for this event? Is this an event where everyone will be? Mike or certain players will be miked not necessarily to have dialogue with you because they won't have earpieces, but will they be miked up so that down the road? We can hear what they say. Yeah this has been a big push from TV partners and the PGA tour for a couple of years now, and yes is the answer. I believe Ricky. Fowler will be miked up tomorrow I saw you and well bond going back and forth on. About it. I I liked the dialogue I. Like you can ask them a question. I like that exactly of course so what? We have just my opinion. I'm not in these meetings Easter, high level executive meetings I would forego the miked up player situation because we have what's called Parabas Mike's. Mike's are so good now that our audio guys get right in there on fairways and Greens, and you could hear the conversations anyway, so I would rather be able to walk and talk with them. Say once around for like seven t to the second shot at seven if it's a par five, that's reachable. Were you know the guys are going to be waiting anyway? And you have ninety seconds to be able to chat with him, not really late around where we bother them, but maybe somewhere in the middle of the round to get a little inside access. Inside the ropes, Mikey guys on the PGA tour is not going to be as exciting as people think. You will be especially following Barkley in the booth, Peyton Manning, there's an all time. Great indicator in sports Brady Phil, tiger. the dynamic of Barclay, and Manning, going back and forth. You'RE NOT GONNA be able to put an earpiece in a player what he's playing a PGA tour event. That's just ridiculous because he's competing competing for his livelihood. I'm with you, The MIC'd up. Thing doesn't really jack me up at all. I would rather be able to just kinda hear from them. You know throughout the course of a sixty second perhaps conversation as they're walking from one shot to the next somewhere in the middle of the ramp, but yeah I think it's Fowler Tomorrow Maybe one or two other guys so that part of the telecast will be interesting to watch as well. Well I would also think if I were the president of the PGA tour. I would want to protect my players I would want to review what what is heard over the Air I. WanNa make sure there was nothing particularly controversial. Nobody cursing. You know I I run it by my players, 'cause if only a few of them agree to do it and they get embarrassed by it. That's a bad circumstance. Yeah. I totally agree I was asked about. About this about how like eighteen months ago maybe two years ago and I said the only way you could possibly do it on the PGA tour to a get a little bit of material for fans who are watching on TV to be able to get a little more inside the ropes than they are obviously watching from their couch, or they're lazy boy Is I think like the NBA does. It is pretty good. You have the coaches who were miked, and then you go to commercial. Break any come out of commercial whether it's on ESPN or whether it's on GNC. When they come out commercial. They kind of go back and hear the conversation that way. The coach in this case or the player on the PGA tour is protected, so it's not live, which is obviously not as as great I mean you want it on tape? But if you do it live, so you run the risk. Of really exposing player again I think from having a conversation you wake golf, and you and you know this Tony and Michael. Noses, and I think people who are listening to your show. Know this as well. There's so much time in between shots in golf. One of the beauties of golf and the beauty of the caddy relationship with player is the catty is almost a mini sports psychologist as he or she's walking around the golf course with their boss. Because you're trying to keep your player loose, you're. You're trying to keep your player engaged as well so whether they're having a conversation about the caps making a Stanley Cup run, or they're having a conversation about one or two players who they're playing with say the guy is slow, and the guy is cursing at his caddy about how slow the other player in his group is. You can't have that on television. That's not fair to expose the player and the caddy like that so so very very tricky spot for television to have these guys Mike Okay listen I I'm. I'm happy that there's going to be live golf I'm people I hope people. Watch I know you're excited about it and we will talk to you soon. Johnny. Be Good good to talk to you Steve. Sands, boys and girls very very wonderful. We will take a break. We will come back Chuck Todd when we come back, yes. That's right Chuck Todd when we come back all right. Good I'm Tony Kornheiser? You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Kornheiser. This is the Venturo Ed. We're pardoning within Ventura watches once more, and we're excited to have them as a sponsor now. That father's Day is coming up. We figure it's high time to get our favorite DADS grandpas. Bros. uncles in on Vinci after all. What's a better gift than something that will stand the test of time? Watches make a great gift for everyone. Especially those who are hard to shop for go check out their watches at Ventura watches dot com slash Tony. It's a gift that means something and with custom graving. What in know about that? New Yeah you can make the gift even more personal. Check out all the new styles and color ways and take advantage of their sitewide sale. Ventura watches her stunning and well under two hundred dollars. We're big fans of this brand and we continue to wear their watches around. Let me just say this. Okay, 'cause now I read that copy I have of Insurer Watch award last night on the show. If anybody looked, it's got a dark face to it and copper. The numbers are in copper I, really like it, Michael which to you have the I've tried something new I got the blue faced watch this auto newest blue brown I really like it. They're delivering all orders on time. No delays take advantage of their sale with discounts on everything site-wide none of their new items are off limits, and they have brand new watch collections you need to see. See for yourself online right now. Visit Venturo watches dot com slash Tony and when you purchase, the discount is automatically applied at checkout. Don't even have to use the code. That's great. It's easy to shop in Shero. Do not leave your gift shopping until the last minute visit, venturo watch dot, com slash Tony, and this is the Italian pronunciation V. I N. E. R. O. Vinci Zero. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. To The Turn. This is a song called. Tokyo girl. By an office named Thou- McCallum. Maybe, no, his father. His father was David McCallum, the British actor who was in the man from uncle. And was in the movie, the great escape. Shea his mother is Jill Ireland who was an actress and a model and was in. A movies with Charles Bronson. Why are we playing this? It was sent to us by Michael Graham Berry who's the arts and feature writer at the Dallas Morning News. Who Sends US stuff here and there found? Val McCallum. Tours with Jackson Browne. He's his guitar player. He tours with Bonnie Raitt and these are his own songs. This is like the closest. We're getting a stardom kids, and this is really this. This makes me very very happy very happy. This song is called Tokyo girl. We've another song later Nigel. That's right we definitely do. That's really cool. Chuck Todd joins us. He doesn't have to do. Meet the press at this hour. He doesn't even have to do. Meet the press on a Wednesday has to do it on Sunday. And before we get to politics, and we will get to a little bit of politics of course, but what are you? What are you doing? What are you? There's no sports. You're a sports fan. You are an in sports. What are you doing it's. Been A lot. We Benja Lot of Television Dad. I've done I'm already I'll be honest. I'm already forward. If like going down youtube rabbit holes of seeing Buzzer, beaters. I, you know MLB network. Hey, greatest half innings of all time, and you're like really an afternoon see I. Remember that happening and like all right. That doesn't do it Do have a lot of shipments and rabbits in our neighborhood, and we got a couple of Fox's. You could sorta gamble I guess on seeing WHO's GonNa. Live today, the chipmunk or the rabbit I in our neighborhood. We're like huge chipmunk outbreak. By the way, this is what I do every day I sit in my house. I wake up in the office I. Do my call out of what's all the shipments run around? and. It's all because we have now rabbits. The Fox's used to eat our chip. And then somebody led a rabbit out a couple years ago, and of course we got rabbits all over our neighborhood, and guess what the boxes dine out on now. Have to you this. I have to tell you that there have been rabbits in my neighborhood. Occasionally over twenty years there are millions of them now and their fact, their big fat bunnies. And you say to yourself way, too. They have is their only natural enemy hawk, because we don't have hawks in the neighborhood, we are proliferating with fat rabbits. Boxes. We've got to Fox's in our neighborhood. That shall we say are very well fed. They do quite well in our ever. And it has brought the rabbit population down. We had a huge outbreak last year. But the chipmunks are what are benefiting I. Mean we just chipmunks have never felt so free. Because the Fox's are distracted by rapid my dog. Sit At. Are Now. So my dog when we're walking, my dog will look at rabbits and look at rabbits and look at squirrels. Her instinct is to chase squirrels which he can't because they go up a tree, she hasn't occasionally. If there's a rabbit in the yard, she'll go after the rabbit and she's zero to sixty in a second and a half but rabbits. Again I've said this many times. If dogs could catch and kill rabbits, it'd be dead rabbits in every yard all the time they can't. It doesn't happen, but that's we have a. we have their fat. The giants Bonnie I grew up with bugs bunny. He always got away with. It was hard to catch it and it must be reelected. So what are you going to gamble on? What are you doing? What are you? What are you waiting for? What do you think we'll be played in won't be played. Well, look I'm a doctor doom. Doctor Doom because I'm I I. Don't know I. Don't know how we're doing this. I'm I'm. I'm petrified that we're going to get a spike on July fourth. He essentially over the we you know you look at. If. You look at what happened Memorial Day plus the protests. That means sometime around the fourth of July. We're probably going to spice and my fear. Is that that spooks universities and Goodbye College Football. And that that's my fear of like if it gets really bad around the around the first right if this spike is is you know is as bad as some fear. Then that gets rid of because I'm. It does look like. College, Football and NFL pretty determined comeback that in some form. I I assume that we do get some football. But I wouldn't be surprised if there's only conference games. When it comes to. Comes to college. I mean we'll see but I I I you know if they start to tinker more I mean. When I saw Alabama return five players tested positive for the virus. Say Missouri had five know you just sit there and you're like I. Don't know how you. What's going to happen when you test before game and? Too often of linemen to starting the blind and have the virus, and then you gotta sit him. I get pummeled number one by the way. How do you gamble on his me? This is a small aside, and it's like obviously this is stuff you care about. it's my understanding that at least on the college level we won't know who tested positive for the virus until literally kickoff. Well how I know! You're supposed to on that rack like we're going to be back to the old days. Hey I heard from a friend of a friend that own so might have tested positive for. We don't know maybe no left tackle this week and you're like no left tackle. That's the whole game. So it's so interesting to me because I mean I obviously I can't stand just sitting in an attic, and talking about the same stories over and over and over again so I want there to be live sports. But football to me. You can't everything about football is contact all the time all week long in practice? I just don't know how they're going to stay. Virus, free and football. I don't know how it's possible. I am much more pessimistic about football than you I am yeah well. I think that the college. I think the financial for college sports. Make where there's no alternative. You know this goes to why I'm like a pessimist about the economy and the medium term for the next nine months. You know twelve months. Because explained to me, I. Mean I've already seen the University of Dayton. Got Rid of golf okay? Non Revenue Sport a couple of other universities they're starting to. You're going to see I mean I. Ask Yourself I. went to Gw. You went to to to to descend. At what point at what point are they going to say? Man? I don't know we're GONNA have to. We have to focus on spending money on improving our ability to do virtual academics. We can't afford this non revenue sport. We can't afford this non revenue sport. I mean I so my point is, is that some of these schools so desperately need? The revenue the football revenue in order to keep the rest of their athletic budgets and pack and not lose Revenue Sports. Maybe for good so I. Think in the same way that that there's this. I just think there's almost the same university general feel like they have to bring suits campus because they lose. They lose a year of that everybody's GonNa. Wait wait a minute that University of Phoenix thing isn't such. Such a bad idea now is it right? That's the big fear of the entire business model falls apart, so that's why I mean I think that's why we have college football in the fall that it's just sort of forced upon us. Maybe it's only the SEC in the big ten right now. Maybe they're the. They're the ones that are the most aggressive, but I think there's too much money involved the try. And if you're the parent of a scholarship athlete on a football team, Child does not paid. Does not get paid for his services and becomes a laboratory rat, so that the SEC can continue to play and make money you. How many lawsuits is that engender? Well, let's let's talk about one player. Why should Trevor Launch Play at all? No idea what? Number, one pick all right. We don't say on this for two years. Anyway. Some people questioning. Should he play a sophomore year? Right could be the secret set up two years. It'd be the as this point in this environment with all this uncertainty. There's you know I that I do expect quite a few places to sit. Quite a few places to sit and you know again. This is all going to. College basketball look like. Even if they play any good player now it's not going to go to college game now. League, alright exact. This accelerated veteran. Once I got this. One thing about this pandemic. And it's been every walk of life but it. We're seeing sports, too. If you're fragile before the Pandemic Your Business Model was tragic and basketball the pandemic, basically crushed. You right accelerated all your problems and made them right in front of your face. and Twa Basketball that problems right in front of their. Would you go to a game? Let's say starts outside made. Would you go? You might go back outside. Maybe not indoors. I wouldn't go endorse. but I'd only go. They created a time to from when I entered. Like if you think about it, the only way to really do this I don't want to be if I knew I was gonNA. Get queued up in a line. Forget it. But, if there is one of the ideas I've seen. Is You know you can do this now? Right you. On your on your phone, you would have a time stamp. You gotTA enter. You know you can enter you know in five minute increments. as a way of trying to space people out so that you don't get in line, but. You know it, it. I you know I I certainly wouldn't be the first person to go. I want them to figure out how to make it so that I didn't have to get caught up in line very often. I'd be wanting to go. I'd love to. Go alone. All Right, let me get to your job. The job of analyzing politics in America. There's going to be an election about an hour. I don't think people. Realize because everything that's going on I don't think people have realized actually going to be election and is not going to be postponed and it is going to take place although I'm sure the loser whoever the loser is will challenge the validity of every single vote. You know in every single state. The what is your sense of Donald Trump right now? What is your sense of Joe? Biden right now? Is the simplest way I. Try to answer this question you ever met. You have anybody who voted for Hillary Clinton. That's voting for Donald Trump. No No, and this is the part where I can't. figure out how he wins. He has not my point is it's a shorthand way of same hand grown his base right right ever you know. He's always talking to the same group of people and it does seem over time. You know what it's like. It's like a river. He's like a river and support are in the banks. And it's just constant erosion, and sometimes the river gets really choppy and rapidly and crazy, and erodes faster in the moment, and then it'll calm down and things will the roads, but it's always aerobic. And if you look look at our last poll, look at all these folks. If there's like it's never ten points at a time, it's one or two one or two more points among suburban Republicans, one or two more points, college educated white men, one or two more. You just start to see it. At it is, you know. Joe Biden on one hand. We all looked at me like. Physically, he doesn't seem like a strong candidate yet. You doesn't see there isn't like boy aren't enthusiastic. Biden supporters yet he's got the largest lead over and cinnamon company president. In either of our lifetime Sony. You. Know that, right? Yes at this by the way without lead like this over an incumbent sitting incumbent president, nobody has had a lead like that without saying word right. He hasn't said anything well. Isn't that anything? I mean no car even harder didn't have this lead over Ford and you know. There was times at Carter looked like he was a runaway in seventy six. You know, and then of course always ended up very close at the end. I. Think this is more like nineteen eighty right? Where felt close felt competitive felt uncertain, and then it just broke late. and. People People Forget. You Know People Forget? Reagan today and the memory of Reagan is this you know larger than life person in nineteen eighty. There were a lot of people never forget my mother. She was one of those yeah. Carter doesn't serve another term I don't know about Reagan. You seem very aggressive. I don't know right but I think. She ended up going that way, but my point was like you know. There are a lot of people struggled with with the Reagan choice, and they were okay after the fact, but it was more of a I'm vote map car right I'm not voting for Reagan Voting Out Carter, and and I think that's where we're headed here that it's possible this break late, and it's just a whole bunch of people to May only vote for Biden once in their life mainly vote Democrat once in their lifetime, but it may be. To you like you're in this. You have to watch this every day. You have to talk about it every day. Does it feel to you like. Like a sea-change change does it feel to you like this is lasting that there is going to be enormous change in the country and an acceptance that we are now on a new path. On race I I WanNa I. I WANNA believe that. I. Don't know yet. I don't know if this is we had. This is the debate. In fact, my my Colleagues who write a morning newsletter? On Politics Street. And and we had. This is going to be like gay marriage that just it's slipped and everybody's Yep. We're all ENYA. Or is this going to be like what we saw to the park when shooting? For about a week. It looked like everybody wanted to do something. And then all of a sudden politics got Malayan. You're like we're not there yet, right? We're not whatever it was. You know you get closer on guns, but you're not there yet, right? There hasn't been the C chain. So I don't know on on on urban politics. I will say this. I to see the Republican Party this morning. For the most part separate trump of hair minute. They're desperate to do some police reform with the Democrats the fact that node the Democratic Bill. That's already out there you know normally if the Democrats passed the bill by on their own right, they put our proposal bipartisan support. It automatically starts getting trashed by Republicans A- party line. You're not hearing. There aren't things being offered in. That Republicans think they can't support or at least Come you know support the concept of it. So. There is a deal to be done. I think at the end of the day. It's GonNa. It's GonNa depend on two things. One is is is trump. And how much does she wanted or does? He decided just blow it up on his own which he can at any moment with one tweet kind homeless did yesterday. Or do Democrats not. WanNa give the Republicans. Cover! And, not want to help out you know vulnerable. Republicans would like to be on the side of police. Reform North Carolina in Colorado and Arizona so. I. That's the one thing that could that could that could end this, but the bigger picture I mean. Look the big see changes of majority of white. Americans now believe there's systemic racism. Yes. That was that is what didn't change for decades yet. A majority of the country that believe that not a majority of White America. Now you've majority of White America, and that's that's the sea change, vast and I I don't know if it I don't. I don't know what sustaining itself looks like in the next three months. But it does feel like term this is. You know the saying the Ark of you know the you know the. We have a long arc of history bends towards justice. It's like Oh, which we're we're. We're around in the bent on this one but I still think. You know I'm I'm cautiously optimistic. There's still a chance this. You know. A week later. It looks like the gun debate. I'm always sort of cautioned by the fact that on this issue I, am more optimistic than Wilpon, woman always says to me I hope you're right but I'm just I don't think so. You find that during no eight I found that during the campaign. African American colleagues and friends of mine were much more pessimistic about the country seen Obama. then. White folks yeah yes. Yeah, interesting, thank you, Chuck. Let's talk under better circumstances. When there's sports, we can gamble on. Thank you I I would love that thanks Tony. Todd boys and girls. It's wonderful to talk to him. We will take a break Gina McManus will join us when we return I am Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony. Kornheiser show. This is the policy genius sad with everything going on right now. A lot of people are asking if it's even possible to buy life insurance at all in the short answer is yes, you can buy life insurance during a pandemic, and if you have loved ones depending on your income, you probably should as an insurance marketplace policy genius in contact with Life Insurance, companies. Companies on their platform every day. They're keeping track of all the changes in the market, so you don't have to. Which means they can get you covered quickly and for the best price. Here's how it works policy. Genius compares quotes from the top life insurance companies in one place. It takes just a few minutes to compare quotes from the top ensures to your. Your best price. This doesn't just save a lot of legwork. He could save fifteen hundred dollars more by using policy genius to compare life insurance policies. Once you apply the policy. Genius team will handle all the paperwork and red tape for free, so if you hit any speed bumps during the application process, they'll be there to take care of everything so if you're. You're one of the many people looking to buy life insurance right now, but you're not sure where to start to policy. Genius dot com policy genius will find you the best rate and handle the process completely they'll you and your family protected, and hopefully give you one less thing to worry about I'll spell it for U. P. O. L., Y. G. E. N.. S. policy, genius. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. Once again this val McCallum. Val McCallum is the lead guitarist for Jackson Browne from the lead guitarist for Bonnie Raitt and tours. All the time Val McCallum Jeannie will love. This is the son of David McCallum the British actor. From the man from uncle and his mother is Jill Ireland and Jill Ireland after. That marriage broke up July Ireland, married Charles Bronson and this song. Charlie's coal is for Charles Bronson who was Val McCallum's Stepdad. This is like this is as close to sort of royalties were getting on this show him foul mccown. Digging deep in the Trivia through I had really nice. Yes, I mean for those people who don't know the television show the man from uncle with Robert Vaughn, and David McCallum it was wonderful. Remember Genie! He played Ille- Kuriokin. Yet to get that kind of bowl, cut, blond hair, Yup, Yup and every. A great looking guy and he played although I think he's Scottish. He played. You know sort of an Eastern European almost Russian Kinda guy right in the man from uncle. Black precursor to maybe mission impossible yeah. Yeah that's right. I, mean, it's a really good show. Man From uncle was an NBC show. If I remember correctly, and it was a really good show. But you gotta go back at least fifty years maybe more. I I watched it on a black and white television. So that's a long time ago. What are you doing? Keep US updated with you. The last time we talked you were trying to find new routes to walk. You were concerned that Connecticut. Avenue was too crowded and you were branching off. I have been doing that although I did walk down Connecticut. Avenue yesterday because I had to get something that the CVs. And I. As I was walking back at Connecticut and mccomb on Connecticut Avenue. A manhole cover blew up. Really I thought okay. Okay, so we have a pandemic. And we have protesting nationwide, and now the manhole covers are exploding. Why not? So, blue straight up into the how high it goes like a geyser. Grill Gosh I would say seven or eight feet it kind of fun. And then it landed back in the whole, but at an angle, so it was sticking up like a shield. Right. So, there was no sign of construction or any work going on Connecticut Avenue, but all of a sudden. This guy comes running down from mccomb street. Had heard the boom. I mean it was a book, and I was right across the street from it if I had been on that side of the street i. Would have been scary. He running down and very smartly. Immediately starch to direct traffic because if a car had driven into that I mean. They. The Axel would have been broken into second. So. He barely very smartly started to read a direct traffic, and then as soon as the light turns red, and that traffic stops. He Ran mccombs street and got to Orange Cones, so I'm thinking he must have been part of some work crew on mccomb street, and that maybe just connecting the dots here something they were doing on mccombs three. Precipitated a manhole explosion on Connecticut Avenue so let me be clear about this. This was not on the sidewalk. This was on the thoroughfare on the street itself on the second lane away from the sidewalk. Well, but he could've fallen back down and crushed a car. You're I mean driving over it at that minute. That's tough for you. That's bad. That's bad look. Could, smash his right in the bottom of your car and through the driver's seat. Well, I mean was. How was the force on it like? Was It really forceful? Yes, it was. It wasn't just popping up. I mean if it want. It launched and then landed back down in the hole, but like Atta. Oh, I'm battle geometry like one hundred and thirty five degree angle. Maybe I don't know. Those things are heavy. Del Crush you. I thought that perhaps it was an omen, and so I came home and stayed inside for the rest of the day. I couldn't do anymore walk. That's probably the right way to go. Although I from now on, I might avoid Connecticut Avenue and try to walk on a smaller street, but every street has manhole covers. And, there's a whole. There's a city down there. There's like under the under. The street is a lot of stuff. You know this could be people living there. You know I don't know. For sure and alligators you don't know. Genie came over to the House the other day to get some food from the Roberto donut thing that I've talked about and by the way some listeners to the show have signed up, which is really nice. I'm sure that that's a really good thing. And you saw I had lost weight and you, did you. Do you have a look of horror on your face? Which scared me? Had A look of horror. When you told me how much you had lost may I wouldn't have known I. Say that number. Yes, okay? You told me that you loved forty four. Pounds I hadn't lose forty pounds over twenty years. You know I didn't lose forty. I've lost about twelve to fifteen in just in the last few months. I don't know how I'm eating. You know maybe I'm sick, but I don't appear to be sick I. Don't feel sick and I'm eating. You look great, but I must say you know. I came for weekly food basket, which was delicious Food Bank here I. Don't think and Michael Thank you for the east. And I went home and I ate the. White Ragu delicious white, Ragu. LASAGNA. Thought how is Tony Eating Miss? And losing weight, and I thought what you must have a tapeworm I don't want to alarm you I know. You're not the kind of person who worries about your health. I. Have a tape for. I'm eating at night. I'm eating full dinners and I'm happy to eat them. I'm not eating during the day Michael. Has Theories on I? Don't think any of us are aware as to how many calories you eat every day at lunch at PTA, and then you eat candy nonstop lot tonight down to one meal and one snack, which is ice cream over the sink. Yeah, so I'm not. But. Do you like the food? The Roberto? Dona food is really good. Yeah, it was. It was really good, and and there was Polenta, and there were a couple of soups that why heavily one of the soups it was labeled. C. H. Spring Soup, so I think that was chives spring. Sue because it was redolent of chives. Did you like it? Very good so one of the reasons I think I'm losing weight honestly is I am a big bread, eater, and nothing and I. Don't have any bread. If I go out to eat I eat. A lot of bread I tend to eat a lot of bread and I haven't been doing that. I've had a BAGEL. You know during the day from but as the BAGELS, but I I'm really a big bread and butter, eater and I. Don't have that one of the things that was delivered to me if I was soup with bread every single day and I just most of the time just take. The bread is really good bread. Come from my food basket upbringing you a loaf of bread. Yeah, your homemade bread. That would be great. Be Great I don't I. Don't know how you feel about this and I think about this that so much of my social. Engagements in my life have either been going to play golf or going to sit and eat at a restaurant and I'm not anxious at all to go to a restaurant I'm real, not I know a lot of people. Are You I'm not not at all and I I? Loved restaurants as as much food as just for meeting my friends there you know sitting together having a glass of wine sharing meal, but this is what I have started to do, and I think this is safe. I go to my friend. Diana's is beautiful yard. We sit far apart from each other on beach towels. And Sunday her daughter went down to Capitol Crab and bought a dozen, really delicious crabs, and then the daughter stood in the yard and threw US craps as if you were a seal. I quit. So! We didn't have any contact except with the crabs. Just wanted another one she'd go over at the bag. Get us to crab. And throw it at us. And so that was. You, did you did you like a seal? Did you laugh you bring a baseball Mitt. But we buck cat her. That's for sure yeah. Bring US another crab But it. Yeah, and then we drank some beers. We each had her own beer, so we weren't touching. Each Other's beer bottles or anything so. We we worked that out as best we could I thought it was rather ingenious opposite. I see people I see houses as I walk the dog, I see houses where there chair set up in front yards and they are distanced. That doesn't mean that people don't stand right next to each other. When they're not sitting on the chairs, the chairs at least appear to be within the framework of distance. That, too and I know. I know we're of mixed opinions. On fire pits in this group, but in some assembled around the fire pit and I must say it looks quite nice. Young, not a firepit person you. Around one I have in my life in. It's been pleasant aspen pleasant. Is there stuff that you thought you would miss that? You don't miss it all. Is there any moments of reflection where you go. Gee, you know I, don't I? Don't really care about this and I thought I might. I miss sort of Dupe it obligations. That weren't really obligations. I. I don't miss those rather I should say. That's one thing I'm grateful. I don't have this kind of social pressure to go someplace or be someplace that I went to halfheartedly. So I'm kind of relieved not to have that, but I you know I missed the crush of humanity for for all of its negative aspects I mean. Put me on the red line and have some millennial. Whack me in the head with his backpack, you know. I I missed just getting on the red line and going down to a museum I. Miss Living An urban existence. I get that. As a total task oriented person I've had to invent tasks for myself because I found out that there's a lot of things that I did on a regular basis that I didn't really have to do. Because they defined my life. And I don't have them anymore. And I'd like to. I was one of those people I get up real early. take care of the dog. I'd go to the supermarket by seven thirty in the morning. Because there's hardly anybody there and I don't I haven't been doing that of course I miss. I do miss particularly weekends watching sports. I do I'm not in. You. Do too I mean this would be the middle baseball season I watch every day. I miss that I. Know I do miss that, but let me tell you. I mean I'm like you task. Random person also always got up early I mean I would get you know the crack of dawn to go swimming and then come back and do a million things. But here is one thing that I have done that relieves me of a certain task. I have bought a robot vacuum cleaner. It is the greatest invention since the remote control. Really it goes under the bed. It goes under the couch. It just goes off on its own. You don't have to give it instructions. It just goes off on its own, and it vacuums the entire place and. Older do that. Back! It goes back to home base. It knows when it's run out of energy and Trots on back to home base to recharge. I don't know I mean. Are you telling me that goes under the bed and it gets? Under, the bed or just get some things in says she's probably thinking. I'm doing the whole deal. Here I'm just going back and forth from the same line. But if you feel like, it hasn't done the whole deal like sometimes I just lock it in my bedroom and say you just stay in their buster. By the way is a him. I sure it's him I. Say you just go in there buster and clean everything up and I'll come and get you when I think that done, and sometimes I find him just sort of listless on the carpet, waiting for me to come and take him back to home base. Well, it seems a little bit more useful than a dog I don't. Babysitter for a certain eleven month. Old Little Boy, do you? Do you have one of these? So as soon as my sister-in-law town, we went to her apartment, took this and we. We sequestered into into rooms as well because it's always learning mapping the floor, but the hammer loves pushing the on button, and then he chases it. Tries to ride, it. That's one I don't even know I. Don't know anything about what do they cost? Are they hundreds or thousands of they fifty bucks? A cheap one. It was a couple of hundred dollars relatively cheap by gas, but there are some that are much more expensive but this is you know modestly priced one course I don't have as many square feet as you do but it would be great for for example dog hair. What if they bump into something? You know what I mean, do they? STOP BOUNCE OFF! And they don't scratch the furniture legs or anything. They have like these little brushes that go out from the side and they know when they're getting to near something. For a dog skirt around okay. By the way what warm welcome Chessy gave me yesterday. She's a great dog. She has a bark that. Everyone gets annoyed with, but it's a bark that says play with me. That's all it is play with me and she wanted to dance with me maybe. She likes she likes you likes. She's a girl. She likes other girls. That's how it works. Just great to talk with you. Enjoy the food. I will give him more okay, take care, but Jim McManus boys and girls. We will take a break. We'll come back with emailing jingle I'm Tony Kornheiser? This is the Tony Kornheiser show. Love Bomb. Be So. We'll call. His. Co... Brilliant lyrics by Byron Cottage. Album. Look. He. Now Install! How do you remember Czarnecki's lumber yard? How do you remember Tinkle? Pause Texaco station in Hand Got New York. How do you remember that just brilliant just so wonderful? That'll do it for us today before we get to the mail bag. Let me remind you I'll be hosting Hullabaloo this Friday with musical guest clarence. Frogman Henry the teddy bears and the insiders. Thanks to our guest today Steve Sands at the golf channel. Meet the press host Chuck Todd Our Very Own Jeanne McManus. Thanks to our sponsors policy genius. Venturo and remember, you can listen to us on apple podcast. spotify Google play radio. Dot. com if you get chilled to I tunes, please leave us a review. Nigel last couple of announcements. Yes? We'd like to thank the folks at Bethesda bagels. They give us how bagels every time. We do the show we love him. You would as well go to Bethesda. bagels dot com, the several locations open every from seven am to three PM also. We want very special shutout to Arison. Todd, who is having his virtual bar Barmitzvah today against the doing it through zoom so very special day Ferrari some we wish him all the. Link to that. We would really like to get a link to that so that we can you know crash the Bar Mitzvah? Party go ahead. Yes, and you're right David McCallum in fact from Glasgow. Say you had that right from Adam gurwitch. WHO's a good friend of Gary Bronze? He wanted to point this out that birthday. Shout outs on the other day to John Carlos and Tommie Smith, and he wanted to make us aware that Peter Norman who finished second in the two hundred in nine, hundred, sixty eight. Eight in Mexico, city would have been seventy eight on June the fifteenth, his his story, he was raised by parents who were members of the Salvation Army and he was a champion of social justice equality, and spent the majority of his life, paying an individual individual price for protesting injustice, and that's why Adam sent this particular email. This is the the kicker to it. Tommie Smith and John Carlos gave eulogies and were pallbearers at Peter Norman's funeral. That's really that's friendships that last a lifetime from Steve The sycophant, your listeners emails about their milk and bread deliveryman took me back to the early nineteen fifties. When the highlight of my day was the visit of our Milkman. AL, our house was at the end of his route, and if we were playing catch, he'd always throw a few with us. This is a biggie because he played professional baseball and would tell a few stories about. About playing in the minor leagues one year with Whitey Ford, I believe Class C League once in all innocence. I asked why didn't stay in baseball and pitch for the Yankees? He just smiled and said I wasn't good enough. Thanks to how I became a Yankee Fan that is until the nineteen seventies when the infamous Mr Steinbrenner took over I'm sure Al is long gone, but one bit of his advice. It stayed with me when that never assume you getting a curve, if you lean and it's a fastball. fastball inside your ribs will be sore for a week philosophy to treasure off from Sean. Bellamy wanted to let you know the milk. Man's name was John. Tap Porn in Humboldt Saskatchewan Canada thanks from John Donnelly and Enfield New Hampshire I hear. You and Michael have been invited up to Cabot cove to play around with Angela Lansbury and Tom Bosley enjoy golf, but don't doorway afterwards is everyone knows? The Cole has the highest murder rate per capita in North America from Albertson? Aurora Ontario I'm just catching up on. On some earlier episodes of the podcast on the May thirteenth show you mentioned now heart is a heart warming experience. When you get a call or text from someone you don't expect during these challenging times. This is absolutely true because it made me so happy when Lewis Black recently reached out to me and invited me to play golf with them at Pinehurst. I'm not sure if his mom, we'll be riding in the same card as me. Due to social distancing protocols out, everybody remained a safe from Stan flemming. In Ellicott City Maryland, let's Talk Nova Scotia in two thousand four. We stayed at the Celtic Lodge on Cape Breton and played the highland links golf, course, spectacular, scenic and challenging. You should go from Andrew writes. Thank you so much for reading my email on the air earlier as well as that of my fellow Nova. Scotian unfortunately I've discovered. A private citizen cannot ship wind to the United States cannot do it legally anyway, so I've copied every winery. Nova Scotia think in hopes of finding a wine producing little to get that case. I promised wineries of Nova Scotia. Here's your chance to go head to head with the Willamette. Valley and reach tens of thousands of new customers, and you can't is the director of developments I guess for. I don't know for something for something to do with wine. I guess in Nova Scotia or in Hirsch in Washington DC. In reference to Michael's wondering about how Zoom Bar Mitzvah might work. We did zoom brisk for my son last week. who think about that moment? Okay, the truth is we let the Moyle into our home, and my wife, and I will wear wore masks, but the rest of our guests to. To join by zoom. I would never do that definitely. Not how we were expecting to welcome a little onto the covenant to say the least I look forward to introducing, you'll haunt seven pounds nine and a half ounces in a sneaky twenty one inches at birth to the pod. I must admit his mother. The person whom are related by marriage would probably prefer otherwise. How long was the baby Boy Buzi? Twenty two and a half. Okay, so that's big right, so we have all these males about can I I'll just read one more. This is a camp thing from Donnie Singer in Columbia Maryland. You're cam conversation on Monday brought back. Many memories of my time at Camp area and Thurmond Maryland went to Camp Barry. Didn't you once one year and you hated it? You hate it. You sent US postcards and sell more yourself, yeah. North on to seventy north on fifteen exit onto route, five fifty north left into camp area, and up the hill to the bunkhouses I spent seven summers. There was a camper and three as a council. We had our own set of hangouts for time similar to yours rockies pizza had a camp airy special. That gave us a discount on their new. York style pizza to camps is located in Qatar Qatar. acton mountains of North Frederick north of Frederick. Maryland close to Camp David, I've driven a lot of times legend. Has It that the camp? Camp Hike Master wants took a group of campers a little too close to camp. David and has a visit from marines and secret service agents. We asked You my son attended his first summer camp every this year. My daughter is attending camp. Louise or Elizabeth went the sister camp. All this is now up in the air, due to covid nineteen, but as of today and this was a month ago. Camp has not yet been canceled. Thank you for the Cam, memories over the years, which makes me remember my time in a cocoon mountains. You, go past Mount Saint Mary's. It's probably about twenty minutes north of Mount Saint Mary's in Emmett's Berg Maryland Shirley. Thanks for making me relive this. You not if buy it in the post. Yeah, if you're I'm sorry. If you're out on your bike, signed everyone, do wear white. Honestly. What the doing yeah. To the! Gambling. Could start. Low. After I walk. Dane from. Confined! To. Hear! The lagging exciting term. Laughing ground. Last. She walks. Laugh again. Who? Oh. Son. Own. No. San! Listening to. She! And she kids man. T's. See? Share! Pay. Falling down. On, skin? A. Map Blue World. Case fries. Full. Back. Follow. You. Jones. So? Damn so fair! Tony! Kahn. His. Share. Made. A fire. From, Salem's. Go. By. Bird. King. owner. Go. The. Will.

Tony Kornheiser Golf Michael Graham Berry Chuck Todd Thou- McCallum Steve Sands NBA Steve basketball Val McCallum Joe Biden Donald Trump Charles Bronson Orlando wilpon Baseball Bonnie Raitt Jackson Browne football
"How about a 40 incher?"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

1:15:47 hr | 1 year ago

"How about a 40 incher?"

"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show I'm making a face that is really punishable laughing. I'm chortling. I think is the right way chortling with Gusto embryo on the bottom side Orebro. Could you could see my obnoxious white watch and on the bottom. This feels more of an editorial comment than any else it just says. Is it just the worst seeing that the Tony Kornheiser show is on now. I love Chris Cillizza. We're here with Gary Braun and gene McManus Kornheiser Nigel who produce the show run the board do the news. We're here for Friday. We'll we we have done virtually every since we started. We've gone five wide three weeks in a row here. Yes so we're not shortchanging any listeners I didn't in taking Fridays off I've taken from PT. I haven't taken them off from the podcast which brings me to and we're in the good studio today. which is much better? The Little Rabbit Warren Lewis even triumph didn't even try to do small walked into the studio today. I wanted to bring this up to just to explain what happened yesterday. I don't know if anybody's interested I didn't in this or not but Michael before we went on the air. We were talking about acquiring products from new sponsors. I had a position that was is not necessarily in opposition to Michael's but Michael was scolding me on on a bunch of levels Louis chat with family to scold on me and perhaps I deserved some of the scolding but not to the extent that I was getting in any case yesterday there was a product opportunity at PT is how I will put it. The people from Samsung took over the show they shot the entire show on cell phone cameras which were mounted on the regular large television in cameras that we use it caused no particular effect on the show except to excite wilpon because Wilpon is one of those people who had always always had a Samsung cell phone and not an apple cell phone and when you ask Wilpon why this is where I get lost when you ask Wilpon hold on why he talks about the quality of the camera and the pictures he can take an I to me your your phone is your phone and that should be and then he launches into to a diatribe about how women against Tim Apple No women prefer iphones and that's why everybody has an iphone men men amend that he we know prefers Samsung and I sat here and I said this is based on a conversation with has no feet in reality whatsoever but Wiley in any case Wilpon has always has always independent of this for years and years and years has extolled the virtues of Samsung and I made a couple of nasty comments during the show that I I won't say now but I of course did that to be subversive but I also did this. I looked at the Samsung Song people and I said how about a big TV for me for Tony a big TV that Q. L. E. D. TV advertise now. How about one of those and I said how big and I said I don't know forty inches and they laughed at chicken well? That's all I've got. That's the only room I've got my house and they said how about seventy five so. I'm just I'm just saying that if this some people came through I very who would love that very happy except of Your T. Are you talking about putting it in the the room by the kitchen. That's too small. put it out at the Beach Alka I would put it out on the outside a an exterior exterior wall of the Little House and you look at it like watching out the window. Maybe go full dance last Alexa Samsung people ask you to look into anything with Joe Biden Exchange to that so I was thrilled so I mean I I don't think doc they're going to give me a television set a great if they did so let us start with a full. Actually what would be better is if they got if you received a television set at home today Eh and then on Monday received an invoice television host and some other things so I I'd sit with auto that just give me a TV you can get a TV for for eleven dollars and ninety five cents. Why don't you get a phone we'll and takes his phone everywhere everywhere? I don't even put it in a bag. I don't even answer the answer. Occasionally your phone rings and you say what's that we have to say. It's your phone call phones. It's usually in the call well. It's travels with the car but they don't take it to play like everybody takes play. I don't know I don't leave it in the locker. I don't take it out. It never goes upstairs. Either now does not ever go upstairs. Its downsides a comfortable. You doubt it's happy downstairs. Russia starts over the weekend so happy New Year everybody but I won't get a chance to say that while holidays going on happy new year everybody will start with the eagles. Eagles needed this win desperately. I flipped packers win. The game the packers had eight shots inside the ten and four at the one with our in Rogers. They passed every single time and none of them were completed right. Gary completed I would bet was in the penultimate drive for the packers. In the last two drives. They had oh okay well. In the second to last drive they had a first and goal from one right and the One god turned it over the last drive. They got intercepted seven in passes. Maybe ran than six seventy ran one of them the second time but yeah I would have bet anything sure Aaron Rodgers would have gotten him into the the end zone at home to win that gay pick all year. I don't believe Norma Swin for the Eagles because if you look at the eagles schedule Yes they have the jets next week but after do that Gary. Can you get their schedule insect. It's a killer I play schedule the next like five games after that are all very hard so if they had been one one and three so okay they beat the jets but then they're looking at two and six then they're done then they're done so they needed. This Carson Wentz had three touchdown passes basis. packers got hurt by a non pass interference call at one point and the opportunity that you could possibly ask Tony after they had the after the jets they are at Minnesota at Dallas at Buffalo Verse Chicago versus New England Verse Seattle. That's hard. That's really hard. It's really hard so they really need this game. They were lucky they're lucky to win but they won the game. I mean you could say their defense stood up they. Did you know well. The packers scored a bunch of points wasn't like it was like they yielded one touchdown philly not not a tremendous offensive showing but the defense provided them a couple of short soared fields over the good for them the local teams they know how to come up from nothing and more yeah I mean to go to green bay on a on a Thursday night in a must-win situation win from like that that's that that takes stones. The the you mentioned the pattern I actually two they were awful that were reviewed and upheld upheld. It's GonNa get really really old. I mean we're just a quarter way through the season they I don't know if they can do it and NHL alike reversal and somehow fix this thing but in two of those instances the defender clearly now I grant you were talking milliseconds in real time you don't. I don't see this but when you show it in replay the guys are clearly impeding the receiver's ability to catch the ball hawking. They're not looking Oz said you know it's GonNa go either way for them right and and that's the rule though they are breaking the rule and then so then you review it and you say the call is upheld it makes it it it really makes no sense at all and everyone's confused I mean the commentators are confused. Pereira's and our Lebron's confused confused and the consensus is there's too many flags now. There's too much stoppage the you know and then people are being carted off also also too many injuries my wife at that second one said that boycotting football. It's like it's to upsetting I mean for me but for yeah well there was late in the game to from the Eagles a defensive back who actually a little game yeah and that that looked even Jimmy Graham should have had that catch I it's hard Jimmy Graham six seven but it's it was but I wouldn't call it a drop. DOTS one handed catch. Just it's very very straight laced exciting game. It's very surprising that Aaron Rodgers could not get his team in. I mean I wouldn't say that about most quarterbacks the overwhelming majority I would. I'd say okay they missed but there are five hundred twenty two yards. He threw four four twenty two well. You know what every single week the guy who leads yardage is played on a losing team yeah like last last week Russell Wilson Yeah and they lost that game every every almost everybody who goes over four this Matthew Stafford has eight four hundred yard games a year and six Salaam they lose because you're behind throwing all this week could be another one of those they play Kansas City and he's the kind of guy he'll have one hundred and eighty yard fourth quarter Awesome Bhai twenty I I will mention that I should mention this Tony Romo was two under par yesterday in the opening round of the Safeway clouds leave. I had that yeah you did have that this. It's the Safeway Classic Right. I mean that doesn't mean they'll be more food at hang on. You're kidding when you said you had about nine because I said what did you guys. I think he chewed even porn. You said no like seventy six seventy nine or something and he could still go out and I still don't think you'll make the cut I still don't although he was five five shots better than Phil Mickelson who put to audit bounds over a road over a road he's ahead of a few major winners and there is a lot of buzz in the locker room about his play and his ability to score. You might invite us go off on this for a minute. I'd say for you to do that but thank you know they're they're. We've received some criticism about out my saying he would not make the cut. I totally support Tony Romo playing in these events. I don't really know where I don't know what the final aim is. He's a good amateur player. He's not a top tier player Claire just by what he's posting say. US J. Qualifiers and invitational tournaments but I'm I'm happy sponsors to give him these these opportunities and he saw him turn his game around he was much better with managing big misses any have to look at the Birdie conversions the only twenty six putts these are members and he was taking taking advantage of the par five so great for him to under. I'm not sure he can go under par again today but I think he'll need to make the cut it brings up a larger your question for me as to what it means to be an amador because he is in this pseudo celebrity ambassador nebulous area where he's doing paid commercials for sketchers but it's because of his profession fashioned and corona yeah so that's that's a tough spot for governing John. I guess it's not based on his famous Golfer right they would they would say he's not he's not Tony Romo Golfer in these add. He's Tony Romo the football analysts who also happens to play golf on the side and there's always been enamoured or golf well how much free equipment is too much free and what if what if Tony Pro V. WanNa want to get in the queue. Led Sam but only but only forty soliders by the way he's merely five off yeah yeah a lot of stroke if he goes seventy six today which is ser and that's a good score. You played a tour course with pros. You play all the way back if he goes seventy six today. He probably doesn't make seven five seventy six. He probably doesn't make it but going to under I had the same feeling about that. Do you remember when Annika Sorenstam played in Texas is like What what does that Dallas tournament colonial colonial when she played that because it is not the longest course on the tour and she went out there and she hit a good drive live on the first hall when she patted her heart because she the the admission how nervous she was and she did very well. I mean I think she was two or three over or something but she beat some some people. She beat some male players out there. I felt great for her. She did not make the cut. I felt great for her because that's an unbelievable challenges to be the same thing for me. If Carli Lloyd actually was good enough as a place awesome we have a great team and even before she got out the League because she missed she made a couple of females is great. That's wonderful. I feel that way about Tony Royal. No he opened he made a fifty footer for Birdie on the first toll any made a simple up and down from the bunker for Birdie on his last. This is what towards doing bounceback after bad holes maybe late last year and he had one of those seventy six seventy-seven missed the cut. We said he has too many big misses and that's where he's tidied up his game so it is fun to watch yeah and I was driving my golfers yesterday. They wanted to see what he posted on the back nine to see if he had a chance to make the cut today so that's one he's twenty eighth at one forty four think the pros feel as kindly toward Tony Romo success no no no because they feel he's taking a spot one of them so the guys who are fully qualified to play in any tournaments the top tier tour players like Adam Scott guys like Justin Thomas. They're okay with it because they know they already have theirs yeah but the guys who are in the middle of the day all right. We'll take a break when we come back gives an Hornets will join us has a movies to review. It's a regular Friday. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the Brook Linin ad making your home. Beautiful is the ultimate form of self care. You spend one third of your life in sheets. Don't you want them to be insanely comfortable so when you sleep sleep well on Hotel Quality L. D. sheets that don't cost an arm and leg the company was founded in two thousand fourteen by the husband and wife team of Vicky rich full up why don't believe our on succession where I now on episode six the first season they wanted to find beautiful home essentials that didn't cost an arm and a leg in their mission was to make you comfortable with luxury sheets towels bedding adding in more without the luxury markup and parenthetically they put in the copy most betting is marked up as much as three hundred percent which puts it again under sunglasses but over food over over clothing most of the time Brooklyn was the first direct to consumer betting company meaning they work directly with manufacturers and directly with customers. No no middlemen just a great product and service. I think Carol has put in some sort of request for a bunch of stuff I would love to say that my Brooklyn and sheets are the most comfortable sheets. I've slept on and they are. They're very good but it's hard for me to say. Their towels turned my bathroom into a SPA 'cause. I don't really have their towels. I on my own towels and it's not a spots at dump. They get ten percent off and free shipping when you use the Promo Code Tony Kaye show at Brooklyn in dot com Clinton is so confident in their product that all their sheets comforters towels come with a lifetime warranty but the only way to get ten percent off and free shipping is to use the Promo Code Tony Kaye show at Brooklyn Dot com that is Brooklyn and spelled B. R. Okay Okay L. I N. E. N. Brooklyn Dot Com Promo Code. Tony Kaye Show Brooklyn and these are the best sheets ever Lewis. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. Here's Brandon has bow girlfriend singer Songwriter Lexington Kentucky. Excuse me who writes at the risk of over promoting voting. Here's another reminder that I'll be performing on October. That's next weekend isn't it October correct Thursday Friday or something like that eight. PM At Velvet Lounge with the money W. J. Reid and Maria and are tober forth a Gypsy Sally's Vinyl Lounge with Ali Maria purdy on Tober for V ten. Am Solo at Coffee Nature Ten am Solo October fifth gotta be a weekend you wouldn't do this. You wouldn't go in the morning like that third. It's Thursday so that's not a Thursday Thursday October fifth third Thursday. What does the Friday the fifth of Tober is Saturday? This is brandon bathroom coffee ten. Am Solo this song is called Old Columbia. These really good if you're gonNA play him later in the show as Zweli plays in an Hornets. We got a million questions for an hornets particularly about two movies that we did not get to last week and one is a movie about Judy. Garland Niane did say that Renee Zellweger had a lovely performance in it. She wasn't crazy about the movie WanNa go into a little bit more depth and and a movie about mister is to Rogers called Beautiful Day in the neighborhood with Tom. Hanks let me start would judy garland because I noticed in the paper. Today you have a big piece on as elway and you tell a fabulous story the at the beginning of that peace with the young an Hornets and the young Renee Zellweger. Could you repeat that for everybody please yeah it was my first job as a film film critic was at the Austin American statesman in Austin Texas hook them horns and that was the first time I ever attended Sundance. It was my first foray. Sorry 'cause to into the film festival and it was she had a little film there she was sort of she was unknown person in Austin circles because because she appeared in a lot of indie films student films you know she was just sort of a partisan film culture so but she had literally just received word the she got the role in Jerry Maguire and so they were like get her get an interview and so I did and I was standing at the I've met her at a theater are probably wear her film had just screened and they said Oh it's it's an from the Statesman and she ran up the aisle and just you know almost most jumped into my arms with a bear hood just because I was from home town you know she she had gone to. Ut and she's from Katy Texas and I think she was just so happy to see somebody from her from back home and she was just of course you can imagine right being just you know over brimming with with just excitement and it was just an exciting wonderful thrilling time and she was just absolutely adorable. He would think she would be and she's still is so your phone is is cracking a so. Should we call your cellphone. If that's your landline. Should we call your cell phone is it's cracking Nigel. Call your cellphone now and that gives me an opportunity to to recommend that people read this piece Renee Zellweger and and and deals with this renee Zellweger went away for awhile mean that that Jerry Maguire thing was a a big star role from her then she went away and there were all these pictures of her about all the plastic surgery she had had and people get plastic surgery all the time. It's advertised all the time. I don't think you have to talk about if you don't want to. Everybody can see it that you've added in after awhile. They sort of accept you with this new look but she looked. I guess difficult It's you know it's talked about in this piece Nigel when we get in you want to plug something in was to put your microphone and it's actually appears on the Adam Ferrara podcast this week. Oh good yes good are you. Are you there with us on your cell phone. Okay good. Maybe that'll be a little bit better so let me let me get to Renee Zellweger. I talked about the plastic surgery stuff that you wrote about in in the piece you said last week. I thought you said last week that she doesn't really look like Judy Garland. I was totally blown away in the Bobby Riggs Billie Jean King Movie How much Steve Carell looked like bobby. Riggs is a dead ringer the what's her name did she emma stone very good actress she sort of approximated billie alleging king and was close but not like this in the picture. I'm looking at in the front page of the style section in the Washington Post. This is Judy Garland. I saw the trailer. This is Judy gone looks really she does. I think I might have missed dated she. I don't think Renee Zellweger looks anything like Carlos stuff means yes and then when you add the especially in the performances it's dead on. I mean the the physicality those those little ticks those all starting little movement she would not to mention she just got a splendid voice. it absolutely all all comes together and it really is. You're right. I mean it's it's one hundred percent channeling. There's no there's no daylight. Hurry the movie actually the movies perfectly fine as a vehicle for this performance it the movie itself structurally and you know it. Doesn't you know it is what it is. It's very straightforward. It's it's a it's a few weeks in the life of Judy garland toward the end of her life and it would want to flashbacks that I think kind of often flashbacks we'll get in the way of a narrative in this case. I do think they provide us with some understanding of how she came to be the person she was and and just the pressure she was under as a young star and so they do provide a service but I don't think that there is you know it's not it's not a it's not an ingenious film piece easib cinema but that's okay like in a way I admire it just for sort of getting out of its own way and giving us this amazing performance and sometimes that's what a movie is and it's good enough for that now so when I was young my parents loved Judy Garland and Judy Garland had a weekly television show and this Judy Garland and in her forties she died very young. Did she not like like in our forties so the Judy Garland our forties is nothing like Judy Garland in the wizard of Oz nothing and she is she appears to be like you said she has great nervous tics and and all and she when she sings she she liked holds holds her shoulders she clasps arms around her shoulders and I remember there was one song I I'm going back sixty years at least here there was one one song she was a great great torch singer which you wouldn't have expected from the beginning of her life and she sings the man who got away until you're talking you just you just you are reduced to liquid. She is that grouchy is that great and there's a lot of singers who have great voices and I don't know that they can do that. Song you'll man I just don't that takes a servant attitude and probably a certain pain to do that song. I don't know if that's what I remember that I remember an acting. She's a great actress. It's almost like a great officer has to be a great actor in terms of telling the story hey you know and as a storyteller in an emotional instrument on the voice and I think you're right. You're absolutely I don't think I don't have the notes in front of me. I don't think that particular her number is in this movie. There are number that evoked that performance I mean where you're just. You're just your hair blown back emotion of and she's and again Renee Zellweger just nails every single thing she nails the voice but she nailed that peace to you know just like Holy Holy what just happened light up beyond transcend and it's really just terrific. Let me get to the Tom Hanks movie and Mister Rogers called Beautiful Day in the neighborhood. Tom Hanks in the last ten. It was just plays real people. He plays people you know he plays Walt Disney. He plays Ben Bradlee. He plays the lawyer in the spy exchange movie. He plays Captain Phillips. He plays Sullen Ellen Berger. He plays real. This is what he does now and I and I think that I think when movie these are his choices obviously buddy movie people. We'll go to him because they say this is the American face in the American because he can get it done to write true yeah so he's our Paul Paul Mooney remember Paul Mooney. He did all those bio pics of the great men. I guess he's turning into some aging myself but the the I've lost my train of thought none another documentary on Fred Rogers was tremendous and it's only out within the last year and it's tremendous how is this I loved it. I have to say and I and this is a somebody who also loved documentary and thought Oh God of course they're going to remake the you know here we go They're GONNA get on the Mr Rogers train and kind of exploit the popularity and it's GonNa be a bio pic about how sweetie was going to be cloying and it'll be tom hanks begging to be liked and you know I I went in with a lot of skepticism and it is so you know what it is is the story of Tom Juno who who wrote about him for GTO Ryan exactly and and Matthew Rees plays him and it's really the story about these two men and and it it Kinda doubles down as the Americans is the husband's Russell okay delivers a wonderful performance and then the director actor Marielle Heller who did can you ever forgive me and various teenage girl. She is a brilliant director and she directs this movie movie with elements of the Mr Rogers world imaginary world and it's so inventive and it's so ingenious and fresh and unexpected and I don't want to spoil anything but there's a moment in the documentary bits toward the end that I start crying even describing it yeah with a lot of people having a moment and it's just exquisite and she does a version of that. Her own version of that kind of a moment in this movie that is is absolutely gorgeous. It's just wonderful and both these men are terrific. Juno wrote right it he didn't right. I don't think he wrote the actual movie. I'm sorry in this will come to us in November. We can talk about warranties with yeah. Oh yeah that that that piece was famous Dow Right. I mean that was one of I think I think he might have won a magazine award. I was revealed that Fred Rogers swam every day. Naked could swear yeah but it is a lovely movie and and Tom Hanks Yeah that's tricky again in in terms of like within as Zellwegger and Judy like sometimes these icons like it does slip into just doing an impersonation and especially with Mister Rogers that could be totally Kinda picky and he doesn't go that route at all and that kind of bothered me about his Ben Bradlee than I thought it was a little to use this struggling to imitate van after you saw for Jason Robards do it. It's very hard for anybody anyway according Diam. DB written by Noel Harp Stir and and Meek Echo of fitzsimmons minkah Fitzpatrick was also Patrick. I have one other question. Nigel says I mentioned this. The other day I watch the EMMYS and was sort of stunned at how many things were not on broadcast television which is twenty five out of twenty seven awards and not a single broadcast television in series one anything Saturday night live one stuff but that's not that's not a series as far as I'm concerned. I was stunned at the award for something called fleabag because I had not only never seen it. I had never even heard of it and didn't find no knowledge of it. Whatsoever Nigel says you watch it? Love it love but I watched it because unfortunately it was only two seasons and it will not come back. She's the Creator Phoebe Waller Bridge whose I you know we throw this word around a lot I really do. She's a genius if this is one of the best things I've seen on TV it's about a woman in London who uh when you meet her. She's kind of a mess you know she runs a little cafe and she's something has happened that has kind of sent her into Gortex and she's having like bad luck with her relationship. She's got fractured relationships with their family and she teases out threads out out the re- you know you you kind of learn what happened with her very very subtly and gradually over the course of the first season and it's absolutely hilariously funny but then the past the she gets some real pesos and lost come in and so the second season I think is the one that just want all the emmys where she takes an already wonderful show and absolutely deepens it. just goes places as an actress. She breaks the fourth wall a lot in a way that is just endearing an intimate and I duNNo. She's just goes to a new place with this season yeah but you do need to watch both and it won't take you I mean this is so binge -able do it in a weekend it you just can't stop watching on now only on episode six season season one the one I'm that's my next thing. Everybody's talking about this succession. I guess we should start watching it started that is take me a year and yet gene. Do you watch either. I watched season one episode one of fleabag an and I that was all I needed. I stopped. I good morning did not like it. I heard filthy it well my sisters. My older sister says she stuck with it and really likes it but I couldn't. I just did not like her from that I it was due to her lack the way it was. She was debasing herself in that episode name. Thank this really really bothered me but succession. I mean that's like everybody's nasty. It's like dynasty was is it in the seventies and eighties a great show so far from me for five episodes because I hate everybody on it really stick with it. I'm just unplug plug-ins deal again and up his on the Adam Ferrara podcast thirty minutes. You'll never get back back from COM ED. You could find it. Everywhere was a brilliant conversation and is so great and it's just it's fun for everyone. Thank you Anne. Thank everybody day boys and girls we will oh come back with news. I am telling you Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the quick had and what I really like is it's on white paper burn and it says items highlighted in yellow or mandatory must read and there's no yellow. There's no yellow yeah well. There is sort of looks like it says feel free to add live the introduction with a personalized story. Always I tell you about trying to get that television set from Samsung latest autopsy or start with the below look. This is quip. I've got I'm going out to the beach. I got it at the beach. I expected to work every time I've been out there even if I haven't been out there in a few weeks and I pressed that quick that quick work. Would you leave your name the whole time. I wish I couldn't even plug it but I haven't Gotten I. I haven't gotten my renewable battery. which means this is going off. Eh I have faith that this is going to work yet backup. I the manual. We'll take care. I've saved everyone from every visit Audi. No don't worry about sensitive vibrations with a built in time Guy Gentle brushing for the dentist recommended two minutes with thirty-second pulses in ensuring an even clean quip automatically likely delivers brush heads. Thank God you every three months every three months. Okay for clean new bristles right on schedule. The sleek intuitive design is simple to use and comes with a travel cap that doubles doubles as a mirror mount. I I don't put anything on mirrored. You know I mean that's good. Habits mattered live a healthier lives so help form fresh oral health habits with Quip Quip starts at just twenty five dollars in you'll get your first refill free at get quip dot com slash Tony Kay. This is a simple way to start brushing better but you have to go to get QUIP Q. Ib Dot com slash Tony Cape to get. I refill free go right now to get Q. Ip Ip dot com slash Tony Kay this is Dick Tony Kornheiser show Um we played Columbia already by Brandon Espe- alker this is called climbing and again in DC on October third at eight PM at the Velvet Lounge with a Mani W. J. Reid and all he maria on October fourth at eight PM. Gypsy Sally's Vinyl Lounge. That's in Georgetown Nigel. That's right yeah right on K. Street purdy on October fifth Saturday for those of you keeping track ten. Am Solo I'd coffee nature so our best which is to Brandon Bowker and maybe we'll go see him. Let she's maybe we we have news and you have news. Yes that's right hi. This is Tony we start off with baseball the Washington nationals in Philly yeah if all along with the Phillies of quick I five game sweep and nats history. Well well unusually get five games for Tunis June rain out yeah. That's what happened. The brewers however also win. They're very good so keeping the pressure up on the nats for that home field advantage in the wildcard what makes this interesting and by the way Strasbourg had six good innings ten strikeouts two earned run he's eighteen and six with a three thirty two. Era Boswell today came out and said Strasbourg should start corbin not or shirts should relieve or Corbin should relieve. I am Bosnia's right about this. If you get to the dodgers you want Corbin starting game three because that's the first home game you definitely want that. I would picture but good for Baas for for going out there. The brewers are eighteen and two in their last twenty games and fifteen of those games are without Christian Yelich. What makes this interesting thing is that Cleveland is in desperate circumstance now to get into the AOL wildcard there to back with three to play from both Tampa Bay and Oakland at least two of the Games will be meaningful at least the Friday game today in the Saturday game? They won't be eliminated Sunday the Games by the way every game starts at three Oh five so if you're on the West Coast it starts at twelve oh five they don't. There's no you gotta end. Go you blows. You can't see who else is doing. You gotta be out on the field. which I think is really good so the nats the nats have to play hard against Cleveland because Milwaukee Milwaukee is breathing down their necks? She's a good series I with thing and something else that makes it interesting is that Milwaukee and cardinals are now an apartment in Milwaukee correct. The Milwaukee Worst Nationally Yard temple has the easiest schedule for the last. You Know Joe Madden's comments about he's GonNa Start. Basically brewers can go pound Santa focused on his team half their starters are pitchers are shut down and most to there I would say position players are going to have a nice long rest so again so the cubs are not going to try to beat the carding. It'd be hard to take more eleven straight losses or something like that the exact quote we're GonNa put a good team out there. But of course they're gonNA Bitch of course again but quite frankly they're sitting things unforgivably about and that would be one of the fan sounds like everyone believes. Madden is on the way out. I know where he should lan but that's just me what else before you move past based this as we get more information about what may or may not have been said to Bryce Harper in right field. I am a little bit embarrassed. I don't necessarily trust Bryce Harper's wife in being totally accurate just just because the way that they've messaged everything from the birth announcement of crew just sort of this series. I think it's more complicated situation but I am embarrassed. If the wind down and Redfield did didn't have class again yeah. There's a very specific lack of class by nats fans in right field at that point but I think that this is the last Hurrah in that I mean I think carpet will get booed almost every time so often it'll lessen I I would just like to say that phillies fans and Eagles fans to me are in the clubhouse with the lead for boorish behavior. They come out like that yet due to save the babies saying I wouldn't dropping them upon further review. He didn't actually catch a baby he wasn't but it was a great law. Yeah it was a great line wasn't like Buckner by the way just one LETO baseball. the twins at ninety nine wins if they get to one hundred to be the first time we've had full one hundred win teams in one season. We mentioned Rocco Ball Deli yesterday. I've known that I think they just sit some record for home runs. Three hundred home runs or something like most home runs by team in any season ever the Minnesota twins and I cannot name anyone on Swat. Cook can hope we are not there anymore. Hundred loss teams as well. I guess that's happened before but have not yes. It's the NFL L. The owners looks like they're giving up on eighteen games but never posed a seventeen game scheduled that could eliminate preseason games preseason games. The Exhibition Games are stupid and nobody plays in. There's no reason to have them. There's absolutely no reason to have them. You can have scrimmages. You can have what you want. You don't show anything in these games and guys that get hurt. People get hurt. One hundred degrees grieve are going to seventeen games as idiotic it it. It's a stupid number. If you WANNA go to eighteen I've always been in favour of eighteen with a with a cap on how many games you can play in other expand the rosters so that more people make money which should please the players association wilpon was bleeding like a sheep yesterday about how dangerous it is and if cared at all about players safety they wouldn't raise a team that you down. A fourteen says he thinks on savings said yes. They don't play any don't don't play any I think it's unsafe. Don't play any but if you think you can play football then put a cap on how many games each player can play expand expand the rosters and have some strategy in terms of coaching and he said no you cheating your season ticket holders nine say anything policy cheating season ticket holders what about load management in the the NBA where people don't even show up at road games so online to watch football. I know what football does. I still still like to watch what we're GONNA. Put It on to me. You know cap the amount of games you can play you looking at me got the games COMPLA- I mean wilpon. That's crazy argument think of all the players who get hurt in preseason games or even into guys taken all gene structures last. It's light too many games. It's just it's a dangerous game. The thing about seventy seventeen games that interests me and I agree with you that it's an odd number is most people and I understand their players Carson Wentz for instance play last night. I don't think he took a single snap in preseason but most starters play about four quarters in the preseason played give right set several don't play it down Gago Buddy Khalil mack played down any play series in the first game back into into quarter so by removing the preseason adding seventeenth game for those players. It's essentially the same amount of football out of odd number so interesting and would create so many crazy issues from a scheduling standpoint but they can manage. It won't stick with the NFL looks like Melvin Flash Gordon. We'll be back in camp I and still loser. This was not as user as list spell the team starter. Yes you had to go coach. Equa by by the way has been great. He's earned more Kerry's. Anthony Lynn said was he's a star for reason I like the way Austin and JJ. I guess that's Justin Jack they've done an excellent job improved. They can play illegal have still have a major offense but as soon as Melvin ready he'll go back to being lost in every way that you can lose and and has come crawling back to his team. They said to him go make a deal make a deal that we liked and they couldn't do it. MINKA fitzpatrick made a deal and he was traded away from the BBC is way more valuable in today's NFL than running back. Not He is not pulled short jumping. Yeah I will say this when you say he lost out big time I guarantee bells in retrospect wishes Hito come back. I mean I mean that's money. You're never getting back. That's your eligibility you never getting back so in the NBA you can say I don't WanNa play here. Here's where I want to play and you somehow you go deal gets done and by midnight right in the NFL you can say I don't WanNa play here and they say okay I don't care where they want to trade you which Jalen Ramsey uh-huh he's going to find out they make deals what else if you had Georgia tech and you'll brackets in the early version of the brackets to win the NCAA tournament this year you might want to get some and quite yet how what is the what is the penalty vacant they banned from postseason in one year for one year probation was also phillies one scholarship for each year of probation along with other recruiting restrictions and yet the coach. Josh passenger has a has a full the full backing of the athletic director so so I'm just looking at this. I just wonder if if that's going to happen with bill self in Shawn Miller to that the school will suffer some sort of penalty it'll be marginal and the coaches will have the full backing of everybody. It's possible certainly possible. Yes although you said as you pointed out bill self said I know everything that's going on this program. I'm completely in charge of that doesn't give him a lot of wiggle room. When would thank? I'm just I'm giggling because I think Georgia tech in an effort to try and avoid any penalties had self imposed a five thousand dollar fine the one the fantastic to the hoyas Mr Tony the continuing fallout from parents who tried to what was the name name of this operation fast and furious varsity blues. That's right yes Los Angeles businessman was sentenced to four four months in prison for four hundred thousand dollars to get his son into Georgetown University fake tennis recruit. This is Stephen Simple Vivo Comma fifty three Thank you sandy third parent that WHO's been sentenced across the four months in jail four months kit son uh-huh was expelled from Georgetown three point one eight q three point one eight you're doing you're doing the work. After I believe two years right. I would not have booted this kid. Jeannie would've booted the kid voted to give the father at least four months. I got no problem with that at all. There's plenty of kids who could get into Georgetown and get a three point point one four better who were as qualified if not better qualified then this punk who pretended to be a tennis player so you want the father in jail yes I do you are committed fraud. He committed fraud. I don't know why you're so soft on rich people including the one sitting in sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue. I'm not I'm not so soft on rich people. I just think that certain things that jail time is is not the best measure of what time it's not good for rich white people. No it's no jail time is good for rich white people who commit terrible crimes white collar crimes that affect hundreds and thousands of people. I'm I have no the problem with that stock fraud things no problem. Whatsoever Bernie made often go to jail for the rest of the time? I have no problem with that this guy. This is so minor to me. I don't think sales it is a minor sentence. One night in real jail is real hard. I don't WanNa spend one night in a real jail. Which is why I'm not going to commit fraud to try to get a child in the school that he's probably not going to get in without my fraud? Three one eight means you can do the job again four hundred grand just give it to the school above the table and that makes me wonder if if it wasn't if he didn't if there was not some financial crime involved evolved if if he made a donation and tried to write off or something but just you know if you're going to spend four hundred grand trying to get your kid into a school I four hundred it should be able to get a kid in Georgia. I think just became a four year school a couple years. I know somebody whose daughter was a legacy the the mother and the father had gone to Georgetown and they were so why not young woman to get into Georgetown and she didn't she didn't get one of the reasons given was that the two legacy parents had not contributed enough as alumni see that seems okay for five bucks that gets you into Binghamton. I've told everybody go to Binghamton said Good Quality Education State School Co High-quality State School only two schools schools in the state better than Binghamton Cornell Columbia. That's it that's the list that list notes list Mr Tony some quite the tons of job but a Delta airlines baggage handler has was arrested in has gone missing after three hundred thousand dollars of the money shipment from Miami to New York went missing he was arrested and has gone missing. Yes Quincy Thorpe. No Age given probably seventy one was arrested on Thursday was released on eighty thousand dollars has bailed. He's still made a profit at two. I've got this right here twenty. Apparently he had gone sick at the time of Ah Jalen Ramsey I wink wink and they arrested him again bail and now he is nowhere to be found but this greg comment from a Delta spokesperson looks person says the alleged accents of this employees are just unacceptable okay. That's very nice. We'll take a great We'll come back with radio and Greg. Garcia is going to join us because escape from Margarita Ville is opening on various cities in the east and will open in Washington not tober eighth braids so we'll talk to. It's always good to talk to Greg will return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. This is old guy radio for the day. This is Bob Dylan. This is not not knocking on heaven's door. That's right and we are playing this for. It's very specific reason because on this date in one thousand nine hundred seventy one no no Bob Dylan played in front of the Pope John Paul who liked him who liked him and use blown blown in the wind as part of his sermon but then pope benedict comedian like who is not the pope but that was when he went electric that Alexa that was right yeah so but yeah so we thought well how's the how's Pope Francis on Dylan I think he's a fan but I not keep go up more acoustic girlie Kinda sales club tunes still play and yes. He still gray still collecting Nobel peace prizes. Just you know what still declining pictures I was walking the dog Greg Garcia's with us and he will I think enjoyed his I was walking the dog the other night and I- songs fly into into your head when you walk in your dog and you have no idea whether we're and and you know this song don't think twice which was butchered by Frankie Valli as a group called the wonder who but but it's got a lyric in it I gave her my heart but she wanted my soul. It's just a good Bob. Dylan is is still so brilliant. Even though you don't have any idea idea what he's talking about most of the time by the way that song I thought that was over previous album that you wrote that Song for the movie Pat Garrett and billy the kid which don't think twice no going to happen late. Dylan store was nineteen seventy-three second didn't we was they brought him Kristofferson brought him in and said this kid can play. That's great once you write the whole album did the whole soundtrack and the school for the Ham Peckinpah auto have had a clue Bob Dylan was one would think Greg Garcia joins us his play escape from Margarita. Reveal is going to be in Washington soon. We're going to plug that like crazy wary physically now working bob going pedophile uh-huh someone else. We've not heard the lyrics. I want a woman a child. I am told right she wanted my heart and I know it wasn't child party making out with someone in the corner. They said Hey we told you this anyway. Where you OK aren't out the window Providence Rhode Island? I bad where's the tour describe where the show is going to go. Oh okay so we're in providence now. That's where it starts but second stop watch could Louis does all all over the country. It's because there's only fifty sixty cities. It's booked until like February two thousand twenty one. I don't know this thing all over the place. Are you going everywhere. No no no. I'm about to get off this train okay but you're going to go to Washington you wash. I'M GONNA come to war airport. I to see how if it's a whole new cast test. I'M GONNA see how it goes. this weekend. These Sunday shows where it starts for shows and then I'm GonNa come into these for fun. for the first couple of shows there from the eight thirteen. I'm assuming that advanced sales are probably great i. I think they're okay I I I don't I don't know I don't keep track of that stuff too. I think it's okay yeah. I think the difference is you know you go to New York. This thing lasted like four and a half months on Broadway Rodway I think they they overestimated some south and and it didn't last as long as they had hoped I think the difference is you. You know you go to these cities and then come out and and uh limited runs and enterprise show you saw it I love I absolutely loved it. I thought it was great fun. everybody who was there enjoyed it. They ovation's all over the place and it'll it also I I was a wonderful moment. Buffet came out and played a couple of tunes. I was really nice. I thought it was wonderful didn't know and it's a it's. It's remains in fund fund really fun show. It's pretty much the same show. The different tasks at the young is young cat which is exciting on those people that you know are just starting out out of college and stuff but like you know as as you know the doesn't really mean you're not getting you're getting less talent. They're just they're they're just younger and excited and Oh really good and and so I'm looking forward to it. I was been rehearsing them up in New York and it's GonNa be. It's GonNa be fun to speed up so this is an interesting politician. I saw I was fortunate enough to see Hamilton with the original cast but I believe strongly that the influence of Hamilton on young people throughout the country. That's that thousands if not millions of people of kids know every word to that show and can't way to be in it. I don't think it matters who's in it. You know what I mean. I think if you're energetic and and you love the material you sell the material world world you'll have. You'll have people performing it who had been who've been performing it for longer than the original yes practice. I mean if the people in your show skipper Margarita redevelop love the songs and WanNa do this. It doesn't matter who they are. I think no no not at all not at all I mean they that the the enthusiasm and the the talent that they have and then they bring to this. It's it's you know it's the same show it's the only difference is is with with the Broadway cast and they're kind of older buffet walks in and they're like Oh my God it's Jimmy Buffett and then and then with younger cat. Jimmy Buffett walks in there. Is that Larry David Yeah. That's funny. I thought you might run away from this. I thought you were done. I thought you wrote it. It happened you were done you moved on but you're with it yeah but I'm almost done but yeah no I I but I wanNA stick it out. I WANNA I WANNA make sure you know you're sending the thing of all throughout the country with your name on it. You WanNa make sure that that is going well and and you can help the actors with any of you know a little a little nuances and directions stuff like that so now you WanNa stick with it right in the beginning and then then you let it go and then I'll see it in Gosh in. La for three weeks in Kabiri so I'll see it again in February and see how it's doing and everything but then yeah but then I'm done how kids what are you kids. Doing kids are wonderful. We got my one in Boston. I just saw gonNA come up here and see the show on Sunday that one more year and then into the world of acting then we got the the Middle One University of Oregon distorted Sophomore Year GonNa be the journalists for the club hockey team okay excited about that and and then the little little little one is the seventh grade. He's going to go to school now. Lebron James The kids are GonNa yeah trail for the basketball team like he's like the prime. It's not it's not roddy. There's little as a smaller one to do. I think just so I told him you. He has looked at he goes. He's very he's a realist. You know he's like that. I think I could get on the bench. I think I can get on the bench I I. I you know not gonNa Start. Maybe if they if they if they're losing or winning like crazy out get in but maybe give a bit too we've been trained him not for layups or three points and things like towel waving yeah everybody with water. Anybody got anybody you want like during tryouts set all he's going to be doing. I left the other kid shoots the ball. Oh you know spirit spirit spirit so we'll see we'll see that back so would you go from five hundred thousand dollars to get this kid into college. How do you feel all about all I do? You probably know some of these people. Who've done this indirectly indirectly now my kids look you know me I went to Frostburg State University? You're on your own. You know they get into where you get in and that's it if you the only advantage you have is if you can somehow fool somebody with the Garcia name. That's all the application they are seeing. We get in healthcare that other than that no euro bureau see. I've told people for a while. If you give me five dollars I can get you into Binghamton. What did you think the raiders for Frostburg you can get anybody into Frostburg it? Somebody somebody buys me. A Ham. Sandwich can HAP- back. I think this is exactly state school. People feel that way what are working on what's next for you. You know what I'm not working on a lot that show I guess book. They decided not to do a third season of that. I got coming up. I got a couple of ideas and if somebody wants to do 'em great if not I don't know semi retired. We'll see what's going on. I'm enjoying just relaxing action. I got a new hammock in my backyard. That's wonderful so yeah. We'll see what happens. I'm not real sure well you know about you always run on the board here. You have a good time. You'd have a great. My rate went up a little bit. That's right so so we'll see you. I hope when you come to Washington. Thank you greg. Okay we got we got an email. They wrote the Burger King Khan Oh yeah that you've got you can eat at Burger King anywhere anywhere and it's free for you free for life yeah and the thing about that too which is great because I don't use it a lot so so when I go in I just I walks for everybody. I'm like Oprah going back to everybody in line gets a walker. People are confused like what aww that's cool man. I can buy my own like no. No no no no. I got it. I got it other. People are doubling up on their friends. They want yeah. How does someone come in to one of those carts? Did they say they were five people in the world. Who have this yet? This is like well I got because I worked at Burger King during the writers strike and they got some press about it or whatever but to me Jay Leno. I don't know it's it's. It's really a story about it. It's it's I mean you never have to go hungry unless you know but then you have to Burger King although I like Burger King I do. I've always liked what flavor it all the time. That's their trick you know if you eat it for the lifetime your lifetime. It's shorter that out. I think we'll see we'll see be good daycare. I love the show I went to the opening night escape from Margarita Burrito bill and I live I didn't say Greg on the air because he knows it and he just says don't worry about it. I was livid at the New York Times review which misstating which had been written before before it was fantastic though I mean it was a bad review but hey you had to respect the only thing I didn't respect respect for the month before but he'd seen preview yeah but his mind could not be changed. Ronnie was he was committed and his mind cannot be yeah and I sat there and I thought the show was really good and I thought it was like hairspray I mean I thought it was buoyant and happy and all of those things so anyway all right so so that if you're looking I'm for a fun evening. It's only here for about five or six days theater. Thirteenth escaped from Jimmy Buffett songs and and a plot that Greg wrote and it's funny. You'll have a good time. We'll take a break. We'll come back with emails and Jingles. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser. Show it comes Tony's bag gut cerebrum male Jews engine notes here comes Tony's me back for all thank you gary before we tailback let me thank Washington Post movie critic and Hornet and Greg Garcia for coming on with us today. Let me think today sponsors Brooklyn and equip remember to subscribe and listen to all new and archived episodes Tony Kornheiser show wherever listen to podcasts everyday cooking apple podcast spotify Google play and radio DOT com. If you'll show through itunes. Please leave US review. I have no idea if anybody's reviewed us no idea somebody's foolishness for sure from Shad Haiku the nats versus Philadelphia. LVN defines the Haiku Lyrical Japanese Yada Yada he is there for twelve more years respectively clinching the playoffs and a five game sweep to boot more shade and phillies. Please shutting Freud you know and that's he hates Bryce Harper so that's why that's there which has got Albert Chan Aurora on -Tario was Geraldo Rivera present when you open your trunk to find nothing in it alcohol knitting store just drunk in your basement all these years Adam in West Hartford Tony if the podcast studio isn't up to your standards and you refuse to do the the pod. Will you still be doing your radio show. I will hang up. Listen also does Claude Indochino suits. I'm interested in what he thinks breaks component Charlotte North Carolina our line. Ah I'm sorry to hear about the other radio team taking over your big cushy studio have you considered the use of spray vomit spray and stuffing fish in the vents to dissuade Wade them from moving and that wasn't a divorce case wasn't believe it was it's mean from Josh just go back to the undisclosed location where we might from chief in Somerville Massachusetts Institutes Not revamped now. Everyone's favorite Easter tradition is telling young children that the Easter Bunny isn't real my new favorite fall tradition is telling people at Pumpkin spice is just doc meg team. Do you like this can is just a vehicle for this abominable spice blend. The pumpkin tastes like nothing throw nutmeg cinnamon and may soon Meyer point pop punk Vedra beach. That's where that's where it saw grass. This is in Florida out that last night's T- I was a one and done experiment with the Samsung Galaxy note ten no offense with both you and wilpon looked like pumpkin spice versions of yourself with a hint of boom boom Olympic is that right do look orange fantastic. Mike Higgins and Cape Girardeau Missouri is where Cindy born is from Cindy born Comma Comma Age withheld Karma. I believe the open lyrics to Dolly Parton Song Nine to five to be very good. I yeah tumble out Abedin's edition and Yawn and stretch and try and come spirit asked to cope season this Linda Ronstadt documentary to like it. I Will Yep but Mike in says. I think you agree that. The lyrics to I have a piano are far superior yes rj from rocks from Bronxville New York by way of Chicago. Oh I know you get the post every day at five. Am I do but in case your subscription to the Boca Breeze has ended. I thought I'd share a section of an article from today's edition failing restaurant on tour and no lover of Soup Tony Oranges seventy one was overheard making threats to anyone with ears. You have to be exiled very funny. I was driving this bill pitcher forty-three in New York's Adirondack mountains which I know well. My wife was driving my car. When the Odom had two hundred thousand miles our daughter was driving and three three hundred thousand they get the milestones got get? The Pailin drums the latest three one eight one three. That's a lot of miles to hear your wish is my command is a two thousand four Toyota Cameron and for the last ten years it's been service by a mechanic named Eddie Sawyer who's kept this thing moving with strategic welding flex line fine and probably twist ties and retired last week. My check engine light came on a few days later. I now live in fear that every pal dramatic number will be its last look if you're mechanically leaves if you dry cleaner closes off if your doctors your a you're in trouble just say quit and of course they quit and you gotta find some young punk who wants to do minimally invasive surgery those Dominic Teller Orlando Florida. Did you send chest immune system for Buzi. Maybe just need to get him. A couple of big MACs and present usually builds it up on a side note a moving to Minneapolis from Florida Arta in a couple of months any minneapolis little tips for us might smell in Manhattan. I have a correction that I'd like to issue from your show Wednesday. You told Richard Justice that Mike Wilbon loves the the cops more than anything else. That's what we'll buy loves more than anything else as being Mike Wilbon. PP's loves it is he does wherever he goes. He's happy should all be so lucky to go someplace and meet new people who adore him. Get it is being the boy in the manger in Loves Wilbon. Oh Oh come let us adore him. PAP listening the pot from yesterday is the crew tossed around potential wildcard starting options for the nets. It occurred to to me that I was given the answer months ago earlier this spring. I just completed round of golf club. Just south of the Pittsburgh Airport I had parenthetically because she must be dying to know I played drake broke eighty at a tough track peak both my brothers perfect afternoon on the course after the round is we sat out on the veranda overlooking eighteen cocktail. You guys a Golfer when he goes to tear ear for green or something like that overlooking eighteen green with a cocktail an elderly gentleman stepped away from his dinner and he has to join us for a smoke sure skip and enter due to the compensation. Jimmy Leland much to my surprise. After a few moments Leila's pleasantries and early season pirates talk. I managed to blurt out a pretty good question one game game. You have to win anybody. I've ever managed to get the ball Max. He responded with Arden before I had stopped talking. That's my choice vases out there would strasbourg that's fine Strasberg's been great for sunny and seventy five. PM Flea Colebrook Connecticut anything positive about the prospects losing it and start a Tony's lifestyle hint hint section the podcast suggestion for the first two hints one to keep your car keys clean and cool always store them in your ask for refreshing change walk around your neighborhood in your underwear once awhile stylish Scott from j Burke Virginia Not Mike from Jj Virginia pleased report a new little was added to the fall recently as my wife and I had our first child a feminine shop last Tuesday while She's nowhere near the behemoth size of Buzi nor does she have an intimidating nickname like the hammer I figured you'd at least enjoy the date of birth nine seventeen nineteen and from John Walston in Bennington Nebraska I apologize if someone else has covered this already but the m the MTA the movement owners are named Jacob Casson and Kramer plant if I had to venture ensure guests that would probably agree with you on your Lisbeth Warren Bernie Sanders. Oar opinion these two ordinary guys sold their company last year for cool three hundred million dollars the group on you buy as always do wear white Tokay. We wound up some. I'm worse than a positive way. We weren't worst team in the League Columbia. I'm a slow fire is gone out work. Thank you know given up gene dum dum few saw gave he's got lost Arabians follow Paul Fox's. Don't cry I would Komo Kit bond to the dumb doc in the it has to be the Soosai gave too easily I'm upset against cancer serve to she. Lost one never to some Take me uh-huh soon as aged uh-huh aw you have fixed God ABC struggle and do you she think about did you congenial the say. Do you WanNa Struggle uh-huh tell you No ooh give her You asked this have a have gotten too early. You you WANNA struggle. You don't have to eh thank

Tony Kornheiser Judy Garland Mr Tony Tony Romo Samsung Kornheiser Nigel eagles Renee Zellweger Mister Rogers packers wilpon Tom Hanks Greg Garcia Bob Dylan Gary Braun Georgetown football Hornets Adam Ferrara Warren Lewis
NLU Podcast, Episode 275: Famers Recap, and the World Golf Tour!

No Laying Up

1:35:17 hr | 11 months ago

NLU Podcast, Episode 275: Famers Recap, and the World Golf Tour!

"Beater right club today. Yeah that's better than most about. It is better than most battle. Ladies and Gentlemen Welcome. Welcome back to the no laying up podcast Sunday night here in kill house solly here Mister TRONC Carter is back. He's been he's been gone for a couple of weeks. Welcome back thank you for being here. Great to be here. Thanks for having me guys. Dj Pie here always can't get rid of them thrilled to be here. Thanks for having me Very Weird Day in. I don't think we can say in golf in the universe in the sports universe and the universe in general it was Kobe. Bryant died tragically in a helicopter accident today. And I have you guys I. This is not that relevant. But I'm not a big Kobe fan and I can't recall ever get like being hit harder by a news. I don't know if I found out like soon as DJ shared it with us was like almost immediately after it was released. I just felt very involved in it and I struggled today kind of shot to the head a little but Trying to you were driving when you heard it. I don't know everything Kinda just doesn't totally make sense in the moment. Yeah I mean I thought it was a hoax or something that I And then some of the reports that came out prematurely about his family and other Rick Rick Fox and all that is just awful. I mean but like I guess a the TMZ broke it before. They notified his family too. So anyway I heard that like just a little bit ago but I mean I think us this pod like not think about it. Yeah I think for for sure we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA address it and then kind of Talk a little bit about how they addressed it on on the broadcast and such but Yeah we're going to try to leave that as much in the in the in the dust as we can but I was I if I can't comment very well and things that happened Sundays. I was like very I comprehended very little today so yeah I think it was one of the things for me that I thought about this with big world events a lot recently where it seems like everybody you know we spend so much time online. That's where a lot of this community sprung up from. And you know it seems like a lot of you listening to this. Spend a Lotta time online as well and it just seems like everybody's emotions are just running at two two hundred miles per hour all the time and and everything is almost like pedal to the metal. emotionally that when something like this. That's even in another other stratosphere. I it's hard to. It's hard to even feel like you're giving it the way that it deserves because it feels like people are just saying the same cliches all the time constantly and today was definitely one of those days where words like. I'm with you. I'm not a huge Kobe fan by any means. I didn't watch a ton of basketball when I was a kid. And and all all of those things but yeah it's hard to feel like you're even putting it in perspective because you just use the same words constantly all the time so yeah it was just a very weird feeling all the and I wanna be sympathetic towards having I do not envy those at all that are in the position of being live on television To talk about this while it's happening but it was very weird. How it all went down on the broadcast in that Faldo went from suggesting that tiger wood? CBS came out and said that Tiger knew about it that Lacob had told him they said Lukava had and then they they said I think they said we don't know if there was tweets out it's like CBS's reporting Dadis. It's not like I can confirm Lecomba knows I don't I don't know that. She outright said now tiger nose well then fout far to suggest that tiger should take a break from his round and released a statement. A one minute statement to the camera while he's making the turn follows incoherent this weekend. I mean I can't think of anything more absurd her one he didn't know in to what the I it's just I don't want to start this from the top just ripping CBS. But that's just something that I can't fathom how wrong about a situation you could be and he said a lot. We're lucky in golf. We've only had this happened to Payne Stewart. Like at the I don't Yeah Yeah. I don't know I'm I'm with you I'm Gonna I'm GonNa there's plenty of things to row. CVS about give them a pass on trying to react to world breaking news In the middle of the golf tournament which I don't thank any of those guys are really or Gal I really Prepared to to totally do the only kind of cheap golf connection. I'll make to the Kobe. News is yes. I'm glad tiger didn't win today. Because you know. Say What you want about the snead record and some of it's kind of manufactured some of it's it's whatever but you know. Tiger has referenced for his entire career how much it means to get to eighty three to eighty three. I I got to do that. I gotta do that. I gotta do that for. That would have happened today when he couldn't have had the whole day to himself. That would've been really shitty so I was a big big Kobe. Guy Ambig- Kobe Guy. Just like the whole Mamba thing is sick. And there's something something about Av aviation accidents that you know whether it be plane. Crashes or helicopters Steve Ray Vaughan one of my favorite musicians of all all the time. They're like the finality of it. And the suddenness of it that makes it so much more jarring. Yeah I mean yeah and it and it. It always seems to happen the unexpected of times too. You know you know. It's it's a struggle man. There's no words you can say to make it you better. I don't know I think yeah. It was hit man. I can't imagine it being someone in sports. What's that I actually like looked up to very close? I mean it's just like if I got hit that hard by it yeah. I'm struggling to turns into golf but I think it's time to do that. mark Leeann final round sixty five to win by one over John Rob Rob Finish with a fury by thirty five under in his last six. Six with a bogey to just miss out by one leash putted his ASO's at like positive strokes game putting on fourteen of eighteen eighteen holes today which is almost impossible to do and he missed a six footer on third hawk. Drive at great which we'll get to a certain point but it also just. I tweeted that out. Mostly just make fun of Torrey Pines and how like like what what what are we doing here. You don't even have to the tee shot so inconsequential. It's almost swinging in the opposite. The direction of the tee shots being so valuable and so many other courses that now. It's like it's super narrow. fairways hit him surprise. which is weird is that her man Lonzo didn't at sixteen? He was gonNA tear it up. This is it because the I genuinely don't know is it because like the rough is not. The ball doesn't sit down. Is it sit like set up in their offer. Why is it so inconsequential because it seems long enough? It seems I think it's a combination enough. It's a combination of a lot of things in that they're so narrow that everyone's GonNa missile awesome like some of the narrow fairways tour and just with the dispersion pattern that comes with a tour pro averaging whatever it is like two ninety five or whatever they average off the tee like twenty six twenty seven yards is not wide enough very maintained even like the Straits of drivers. And it's also the the plane corridors. There are so wide especially with the tree removal that it's like whether you're a yard off line or like twenty yards off line doesn't really matter so a guy ended up around and just hit it far and now actually in the Tigers benefit at Taunton the panic blowing further off line into the crowd where it's trampled garage even better at least gave us a go way right at one point today like shout the cat right there. This shot that leash hit on the some of those putts that does stretch from ten through fourteen or fifteen. He's twenty four. He had an eight foot. Par Save at Twelve foot parts of Asia but the shot that he hit on which he won by one. When I totally GONNA win by a lot and all those putts that he made turn out to be very very consequential shot that he hit on fourteen right? Oh my God get that on the green i. I was listening about one hole when he was in the right rough. That one was legitimately way way right and he was he was kind of on the UPSLOPE and had to get it under those trees the fact that he got that on the green that was another worldly he made it twenty footer for par on twelve. He made a twelve footer for par on fourteen. Eight footer for par. You're on fifteen and then the one on fourteen talking about I think it was fourteen was not to make this a broadcasting and I don't know what you do differently but the broadcast is not capable of showing how hard that was. No you know what I mean like you got to. You got a sense of it that like Oh my God. How did he sneak onto the front quadrant? But it's so I don't know what they could do differently. Currently that would show just how eft some of that comes comes back to. We talked about a month ago from from Royal. Melbourne is just some of the high the high towers hours. Yeah flatten everything out. Because because there's a lot more movement Tori than Rice Lake. Yeah a couple of us a number four actually do. That is where it's at right there. Those hand held held cameras. which you know they? I'll give credit for that. They use a lot more handhelds which I love. The handouts are way better view. Now it's like they just don't have nearly enough camera setup elsewhere. I actually don't want to. I mean we could spend an hour taking down this broadcast as we go. I don't want it I actually for one. I'm going to bypass the opportunity to do it. I guess it was so bad. I'm with DJ on this. It was so bad that it's not even like where they are who they are who without. It's always jarring the first one way and like maybe it'll be different. The only thing worth discussing is like really got rid of Kostis Jason mccord for Davis Love. I liked Davis love. Listen bullet would. It's not he and Justin Leonard tossing the idea that that was going to change. The game is just just so indicative of the issue that you know. It's not even worth discussing. I believe Brown called it Rearranging Martini cocktail. Martinez on the HINDENBURG. Martini Olives Martinez Martini olives. But Yeah Martinis sounds about right. I kind of put it to their credit or to their credit. Or discredit Nothing's nothing's GonNa Change until until Mr is gone. which is the end of this year? Correct okay so it's going to be like this all year so we're not going to spend every hour of every episode. Doing it just know that we hate it and they Miss Roms Eagle yesterday. Yeah they didn't even address it rob called about that was awesome like the first holiday show in his music. All right here on six wait. I Made Eagle Onto and Alice is like Oh yeah we weren't on. The area is actually work. That's fine. How many shots did they show of leash yesterday? That's another thing. The reason why we scream about them. Not Showing people is already after we broadcast but is because because they didn't show leash at all in round three one fucking golf tournament all right now. I'm working to get going the cat. The cat was impressive this week. I mean he just like didn't blow anyone away but I mean it's a little bit rusty. Yeah it's a little dicey but like we don't know what we're going to get from him when he tees it up and he seemed very much in control and very confident very cool very legal Elliott the mid irons were pornographic. Yeah it was. I know it's a the places obviously very very comfortable at but That was a very encouraging. Start to the year I in some cold weather too. I mean that's kind of the issue with the back with the cold and sweater weather again there's wetter all the delays yesterday at the site of the deactivation. Exactly that's got to be a tough seed for him but in his ball spinning out of the whole. I don't understand why I still don't understand that. I don't think I've ever seen that at any point. A ball going submerging and coming out of it like that. Yeah it was great to see. I don't think we're GONNA see Any crazy stuff with the schedule for him and sounds like he's shut down until Riviera I don't think there's in a huge take oil and then like that was great to see everyone. People were bitching about this bitch about like them. Following tie every one of tiger steps like that is totally an reasonably ably expected. He was in the golf tournament. PEOPLE WANNA tune into C- Tiger. I don't WanNa hear that as a complaint for CBS. Yeah no I agree. That do not misconstrue are issues with them to have have anything to do with the fact they show a lot of tiger woods. You guys want to hear that. So Tiger fish t nine. He's played three hundred sixty. PGA Tour Events And finished in the top ten one hundred ninety nine times fifty sixty fifty five percent of the time just fifty percents. That sounds about right Ah Good or no like imagine. I don't even know how to state it like you see these young players and like Oh man top ten. It's really going to get a season going. That's huge you're just like no he. Does it more than half the time. How much how much that's come down even with all the scandal years does that stat sheet? Did you have how much tax money. He has paid just from this week in his career alone. All California tax like double digit million taxes paid just from the farmers insurance. Yeah unbelievable I want to see somebody compilers where he would be in the career earnings just at the farmers I better be top. One fifty in career probably above or below. Jj Jj Henry. I bet it'd be top one hun- easily top one hundred seven time tour winner. Jj's amass a lot of money as if all goes back to the greatest of all time at JJ. Henry predatory lender going from Toronto going into small markets Reno Moline and just fleas as for Hartford. Just fleecing these poor people out of money that was the highlight of the PGA show last last week the the purple so to highlights walking around Purple Mauve headed Purple Shirt underneath his sport coat and a Purple Pocket Square. And then actually you guys left on Thursday. I'm walking around. I'm like Jim Caldwell coach. I do a double take. I went around around that you're more. Oh Jen Jim call was the one that you always have that blankets sir and I did a double take and act like I dropped something. I went back sure enough. Who Jamie Caldwell you know? What was his credential pro industry pro we are not gonNA break down the PGA coach stop? Stop going back to rob did we. I was so I was listening on the radio today. Did we get a didn't hear one. I know what you're the really really keeping emotions in check. I did not get what I kind of look. He seemed like he was keeping going to be an absolute fucking meltdown. All I have a tweet ready for whatever does it's like yeah. RAHM is really keep it in most check. Checking in with Ron Tools actually stabbed a fan with broken clubs. Can we get some of those people from the first responders hole overhear round just murdered three fans first responders seen out there. This massive first responders scene which is really cool for Randy and now he's a big big. I don't have to get into the liberties taken with that that flag. That's there's some some interesting stuff around promoting that heavily. PGA Tour event. But we can talk about that later. Can you guys help me with something. Here the broadcast sucks the courses. Boring the leaderboard bunches. Why is this tournament so entertaining raining? Every year board is always good. Always feels like a super bowl to me. Is it just because there's no football this week and feels that people are really engaged. Always feels huge as much as I love. Sony it's essentially the first big tournament here. I think eight kickoffs. I think all of this is the yeah. You're giving you're looking for reasons other than the obvious one here which is just not there. That's what I'm saying it's all residual cat. You know what I mean. I'm serious it's like. It's how people thought that like wells. Fargo was a really premier event because cap played at like three times and all of a sudden. It's got this field fucking stinks. It's gotten better but you know what I'm saying. You got robbed typically plays well. Roy was in the field this week. That was massive. Rory any comment on rory I mean he. You know kind of spit. The bit today played like I was shocked to see him shoot sixty nine after starting bogeyed three hundred first four holes badly too. I just doesn't unlike strike me as a great poa guy you know like I. I don't have any real. He's never had really success on the West Coast on about to have egg on my face. But I've taught my head like he's never really match played harding park. That's all that really is like spring to mind. Well Chambers Bay obviously. Yeah that was like that. That was a different poem. Mega was the wrong kind of Broccoli Poa. But he doesn't seem like a west coast swing guy. I mean tiger obviously grew up on and making that. I don't really think he's done a whole lot. I think. There's there's an important distinction with POA. Because I happened to be on the right power I make fucking everything but then at pebble I couldn't I couldn't get the ball within four feet of the hole so I think there's a bumpy soft POA. And there's there's a kind of POA that like like more more like the Tory poet it seems firmer and and challenge to the course like you know it's a it's a kind of an easy whipping. Boy I think but you know they spent fourteen million dollars on it so I hope they made some changes. I think Reese Jones is is is collecting paychecks with ski masks. It's like no no bid contracts out to the to the city of San Diego but lawyer Diego Parks but I like some of the stuff that they they done on the fairways running into some of the bunkers. Something new tee boxes. It was see my does progress right. Fourteen million dollars progress. Well Yeah. I know irrigation expensive and all that but I mean when the US Open goes there. There's no possible way. They don't cut down some rough around the Greens right. I mean that is so dumb. Come in sober actually like you said earlier. How wide the corridors? Yeah you could make it extremely like just firm up the Greens and make it extremely out like you know. Cut shut down all the surrounds. And if you miss a greener possible I think twenty five yard pitch coming back. I think the thing that all the architecture people say is you know. You're you're on this spectacular exciting. You don't really use any of the cliffs right which who knows maybe the reasons like erosion reasons. I don't really know why maybe it's bad architecture too but you know saw so and I were watching earlier texting or something was a smoker. That hit that shot four God. He'll just like a dead pull hook that we're we're looking at that needs to be the in the ocean and maybe you can't move the green closer but maybe there's things you can do on like softening those are harshening whatever you want to say but to your point cutting down some of the rough. Yeah yeah cutting down some of these like catching just like making it. So there's more teeth than they did move a couple of them closer to the cliffs right. They moved the four th fairway closer to the cliff but that approach as soon as you hit it was just a dead pull hook of Mike from two hundred twenty yards. My Dude that has to be whatever is is over there that has to be off the planet and it just like stopped in the rough and he just. I don't know if I don't remember if he got up and down or what but it looks like so take the fifteenth Hole Rahm. Today today was in the right rough and he tried to play the left of the green and I don't know if this is new or not but they actually had fairway like around not remember. His ball rolled down the fairway and rolled into the back of a bunker instead of stopping and just like ankle deep rough near the green it rolled to the downside of the backward bunker demand bogey that was like a deserved Eh how the way around those should play cramming balls over them and it stopping two feet over the green. It's so boring and repetitive. It's letting the Greens rub a little a little bit more there. You go there you go brand snigger. Hits some of the Squirrelly shot. Sometimes he's on that plane with web. Well so I just picked up on this this past week to on when he putts he uses what they call it. The top stroke. It's kind of like a shorter little stroke here. Watch for that Mrs. Though I feel I feel a certain kinship with them because his tempos total I got that moved that Kinda it quick coming out of it or stream I forget what was it. The Ernie one that he played really well at the British open and we got to Saturday he was total control and then all of a sudden yeah by tempo. Exactly that kind of stuff. You're like Oh my God. This guy does not look before we continue. I WanNa talk doc more toward before we go. Can you guys tell me what a madeleine. SACRAMEN- mark Leeann have in common Well they both hosted trophies this week. They were both tour winners on Sunday. They also have a lot of similarity with regards to the clubs and their golf bags. sags from was the first player on a major worldwide toward to win with new. Calloway maverick driver and Lieberman Eastman quickly followed. sexton who ranked one twenty-seventh in driving accuracy. Hit all fourteen fairways on Sunday and so did Mark Lieberman. They weren't into hoes that he was playing. Yeah they didn't show those on TV. They showed the hit forty. Just not the ones that he walked down all fourteen exactly. He did hit three fairways. Of course he he drove a while the rest of the week just not so. That's what I was GONNA say. Imagine how well he drove it. The wrestling team and being contentious and also madeline hit all fourteen fairways on Friday which is pretty sick mates credible up and downs over the course of the day with the jaws wedges that both she and Lieberman game well. I was a little bit worried about leash coming into eighteen flashbacks to kyle out daily. Spin it off twice a lot longer to go and his is ball landed on the slope so just gave it like the mega juice in a row. Back don't land release was Panagiotis Wedge. He was he was closer to that. Little smarter I I know this is an ad read. But this is a personal testimonial wedges been crazy so much but at least might maybe a little more qualified to handle it than we are when it came to putting you guessed it. They're both rolling Odyssey putter. Madeline had the new stroke lab black marksman which pretty much makes it? Impossible to put a bad stroke on the ball and also like Lee. Didn't miss a fifteen footer. We already talked about that down. The stretch It was pretty good day for the number one driver on major worldwide tours. Wars and the number one puttering Gulf Maverick was also the most played. Calloway driver across major. Tours come this past week and they won the driver count on the LPGA. Calloway when the driver calendar the PGA tour so real quick note on sex JEREM. She's she she was twenty seventeen like her career is off to a very good start and Swedish big played in the Solheim Cup. Two thousand seventeen as a rookie So you haven't just like a rookie on the LPGA toward that's what you mean not like as a rookie on the Solheim Cup Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah and I mean I probably goes to show you just how little depth there is on the side of the Solheim Cup but NASA hotoke almost went back to back that that is not included within this ad but yes visit callaway golf dot com for more INFO. Anything else from Tory. Before we move on we mentioned Tyler mccumber sickly kind of gave a little bit of a back today but that was a that was a wild Personally that was very ramp Acre Wildfire Baker. My of course my former partner at the web dot com junior shootout fantasy football. You know compatriot of ours and Tyler number who I I think maybe last saw upstairs upstairs the kill house when he came over here to these guys tiger fucking woods. Oh that's cool every day But mccumber I mean pretty. Cool them to ignore. I know come on a ten time tour winner. I'm trying not to do the CVS Steph but it's like man. I wonder why nobody knows who these guys are like. Here's a young kid. He's like the opposite of everybody on tour. He loves surfing. He's like a super introspective. Smart Traveler Avelar like really interesting dude playing with Tiger Woods. You have every fucking camera in the world already out there following him and it's like Oh yeah we're not what we're here at seventeen. Apparently he's played pretty okay. Well we're told COOL. Talked about this a little bit. How you know what I get weirdly? I'm so much more engaged in a tournament during CBS week. Because -tective trying to figure out what the Hell's going on in the tournament I pull up the leaderboard it'd be like Oh shit. Like Harry Hicks is making a move child the Harry too and he got a lot of he has a vibe and a half people were loving. That Zack had Zach. Blair Blair had had a decent we kind of did he's committee Putz Eh superfan following around to show to the translator out slayer if anybody saw video. Ah Screaming after every put let's go. We're going to try and get him on the on the chapter on It also shouted the tour for putting Calling Morikawa and the or as Moriyama in a in a feature parenting. That's I think that that was a cool move for them to put him with tiger. I I also I wanNA give a shout out. I love when they do. When they've got two courses? I I you know it's so much fun to figure out all right. These guys all put on North on the south five hundred in the south. I love prognosticating based on that stuff last night he can make a bigger field to somebody. tweeted I forget who it was. I apologize somebody goes whole fuck. He's good just like after watching this. Oh no the speed thing is Israel the weekend very real species now outside the fifty for the first time in six and a half years. which is I mean gene? Is that bad. It's maybe he's probably GonNa miss him unless he I don't know we'll see forgetting. Does it cut off the week before Muskrat. It's like I feel like pebble and La coming up. Yeah gotta be pretty tight sixty four though right. It's not just the plummeting surrounded quickly. It's not it's not good. I was so gosh I was so excited on Thursday. Friday speech. Got Four under this. I'm going to be parked on the couch this weekend. Well the reason to be optimistic. was that his Birdie. Average was still insane and that he was still like birdieing. Twenty percent of the whole top. Ten untorn Birdie average just need to clean up the big east just first off setting it with so many bogeys and it just doesn't make sense to to have that volatility so if you're optimistic looking at you saying Oh yeah just clean it up a little bit in your fine but if that continues obviously it's going to be the same story every week. So Baker shuts seventy eight. But last thing about Tori for me was. This is four. Sure the most obvious statement of the week rory hit like four or five shots. This week that I'm like Oh my God. Nobody else uh planet can do that and look easy and I know the five would out of the bunker shot absurd. The one yesterday was I think it was on twelve one ninety into the wind right up against the lip he just lifts probably like seven hundred or something. And Burgess lifted straight up drops it completely softly three feet from the hole Mike. This is not the same sport sports. A lot of these guys are playing this every single week. well as it didn't feel like he had his new workloads do stuff. But that was the biggest week I can remember as far whereas just really highlighting what he can do that. Other people can't do. Yeah get him on some Greens that he knows well. I think we can see. We're going to see him. I could even have a better this year. The last year I think Rivera in a few weeks is going to be totally him sick. All right events GONNA be awesome. Are we ready to get to the highlight of this. Show World Tour Vevey home. We talked to buy for a second shirt. I had it on their world tour but we can talk if you want we. Can I feel like it kind of rolls in a little bit too. Sure yeah you got Lucas. Herbert who you know a a fellow excavator. Patrick read how quickly we forget. At this event last year it was twenty nine thousand nine Dubai way worse than the read. It would way worse. Pilloried yeah in the Australian media and like I didn't really I didn't see many. I don't follow too strong got I. I didn't see a ton of people really float around. I'm guessing. Security wasn't removing a bunch of read cheater yellows as they were her right definitely definitely they were at removing people. That were harassing Mr read from Sports Outta here so Ryan Palmer rejected somebody on TV This past week and nobody seemed to get all up in arms arms about like they did when. Jt did it at the Honda. Listen man life's not fair. I don't know what you didn't Ryan Palmer. Has they've got arnie's army. Ah Speaking of Mr Polera. Speaking of Arnie's Army WanNa give it a shout out to the commercials on. PJ Tola Radio There is it Mike Stone and there's a four album of Guitar Acoustic Guitar songs about Arnold Palmer who already your thank you. Ernie we're parentheses where you're rb me Remix to take the guy's last night another one week in April. I believe it's called. It's Kinda stuck in my head I did not Did Not appreciate that. We need to be okay Yeah my need to change the intro music. Bryson getting put on the clock on the back nine and melting down. Yeah you can see the picture of him in front of the enormous Omega. Go Watch at. I was like trying hard to come up with. A tweet. Like European tour added again with their half baked ideas on how to fight slow play bogeyed the last four all to shoot seventy six. How many shots back did you finish? who plays that's a great question. it was it kind of set up a great day. And and then you guys kind of spit the Bit Eddie Eddie Pepperell fleetwood didn't play well Bryce and obviously lit himself on fire. So you know I it. It was a little bit of a down the stretch as far as the actual action goes. But you know I think these guys are saving their energy. I for I green scarf club next week. The first major of the year bryce did finish four back after bogeying the last four holes to put on the clock on the back nine which is which is which is tremendous this but he said he was welcoming the new the new slow play initiative. We got. So I'm going over the field list for for the Saudi event. The next week Brooks Dustin Patch agreed artisan Do not see Bryson's name on the I thought he was in I. I guess I kinda just assumed he was in the definitely last year was helping grow grow the game in the kingdom last year. One name that stood out Sebastian Crampton he's an American guy was on the Mackenzie tour. Last year. got a sponsor's exemption the Saudi event. He's a graduate from CAL Berkeley in two thousand nineteen. I just stuck out to me like how who why can can we just discussed so. I think we've touched on it like with Saudi. Like why what we kind of. We talked about a bit last week but what we think of why. We're quick quick to criticize the top players in the game. Playing it versus like regular European tour players other players. Is there a difference in your guys. Mind I think so for sure is there you know like a humanist difference no pro- probably not but from a career perspective I get why I mean off as a good example of someone that's like man you got no status anywhere and you've got to make something happen how do you you know. How do you turned down a opportunity to go possibly do something huge and get status on the euro tour and just start running downhill? But or a guy like Richie Ramsay or somebody like that. Who every every shot counts? Every point counts in the in the race back to Dubai. But if you're literature literature showing up to say scheme ask you put the fucking money the bag. Let's go good important to spell out the way I try to view it with my old job job if I was assigned to go to Saudi Arabia on a work trip. I'd be like yeah. Okay I gotta do that but like with this job if our responsibility was like hey you guys can go. Oh in just say amazing things about it and collect big fat paycheck for doing it or there's also other things you have. The option of doing that are more morally sound. Would which would you choose and like we have a decision in that regard and we would probably we would not go we. We had a decision last year. Asked us and he said no and we said no so. I think there is a just an important distinction stink tion between like Phil going over growing the game in the kingdom. Getting a Shitload of money for that's a part of the world that he's never been before he was and he got an extra two. Today's nice weekend in Riyadh. Yeah hopefully hopefully. He didn't bring his bombs with them and also the breathtaking views of the Red Sea that Yeah Brooks's of traveling to go see so congratulations to them. Active plus the other thing is people will. How's it different than China or AH China's not the one funding the HSBC like WBZ or Turkish Airlines Open? It isn't funded by aired Awan funded by private company. Now we read it a loophole in bring it all together lease chomping at the bit. I'm going to do a little bit of fact reading here Of the most part just to set the scene in case you haven't is basically you. Can you can dive too quickly into this and not really understand what's going on and I've I've been through this exercise already this weekend. It's good to just come take a full view of it we actually had a conversation at the PGA show this year like guys. Why is nobody talking? had heard anyone like seen any reports. And we've kind of had internal discussions about this world tour for awhile. I think we're kind of agreed like maybe we should talk about it this week. On the POD. Like hey guys this is going on. And all of a sudden then Shackelford drops a bomb on Thursday. So shout SHACKELFORD. Yeah Yeah Great Scoop. And it's impressive reporting. Some multiple sources have confirmed Geoff SHACKELFORD DOT COM and after years of attempting to to commence the World Golf Groups Vision with the twenty twenty. Start date organizers are making another fervent bid to lure top players away from the PG European tours with plans to to start in two thousand twenty two or twenty twenty three. The concept was first revealed by Reuters in two thousand. Eighteen has alternatively been known as the World Golf tour or towards a force. which would seem like that's out but seems like already as well they've been rebranded literally literally dovish name I've ever heard by life but so dumb that it's great? Maybe we could have that debate. Wave what would you prefer world golf sort series or tour De Force Rogoff Sarah. We'll get OUTTA here. Premier Ear Golf League. PG L. Phillip. George Landis is big randy's real name PG L. so we got emailed a QNA for the PG AG l.. which why did I get? We don't know but we're going to journalists a lot of those answer. The Cuna is unbelievable. The answers to this. It's like it is like Britain Britain as tron would write like the answers to so. There's no there's no background WHO's asking these questions from just calms and it's like it's official email address and it's got the premier golf with their three Ts logo there But further to the official statement issued in the media yesterday evening police find attached hatched interview transcript which clarifies key information relating to the Premier Golf League in its objectives. Signed the COMMS team. We're going to get a lot of these no part of it lists. Suzanne was asking the question. Who's answering the questions? Who this whole press releases coming from absolutely point out the ridiculousness snus of that upfront? All of these answers that we're going to be like reading from in quoting go in eyes wide open that litter. We have no idea who this could be. The Softbank spank Guy. In Japan. It could be it could be crowned Prince NBS. Yeah I'm picturing it as some visas kid of it comes straight from Jeff Bezos. I'm picturing to somebody the I guess to talk muffled like like with Mike Vick thing it's like work the World War Kinda like club. I've read the club broke. He could be involved involved. Steiner of all people was the only agent willing to go on record was Shackelford. We'll do you want to get some of the details out on what this is for. That's what this is going to. I believe leave unveiled. Shortly to other well known player representatives confirmed that the concept had serious legitimacy and the players were considering the proposal. Three other agents contacted declined. Hi to comment four players with knowledge. The proposal would only confirm details fearful of fines for discussing a potential PGA tour competitor. which is a big element of this? which will discuss the original concept presented by the group featuring eighteen events scheduled from January to September with forty eight player fields vying for ten million dollars? Each week highlighted by by season ending team championship. Again the team element of that as well The World Golf groups current proposal has since been adjusted after feedback from players is now aiming for ten events so this was in the SHACKELFORD report. This was not in the What they listed out they still had everything? Eighteen event correct The group is retaining a formula. One style team component complete with managers and potential drama surrounding players signed benched or released from franchises. Those franchises offered to a group of Megastar Megastar players who could retain ownership past their playing. Days we'll be capable of generating equity value between three hundred fifty million and seven hundred fifty million dollars along with four percent ability where that number came from no idea the world series groups. Lobbying efforts was a major topic during this week's PGA tour player meeting from the farm farmers. Insurance Open Commissioner Jay Monahan flew in from Ponte Vedra beach headquarters engage in substantial discussion with players about the pitfalls of the cons up. Couple things about that too. A that makes it sound like it was a meeting about the Whatever the hell this called the Tour de force for lack of a different name? That's not true. It was a player meeting every year. The attendance is that she I think always are almost always attends And based on everything we heard There was one question asked shadow to Justin rose And so it was basically they got through the player meeting where they're talking about pensions and exemptions and starts and whatever and then there was a queue a portion at the end or one player. Justin rose brought it up. Monaghan gave one answer. That was the end. So this there's going to be like kind of makes it sound like Holy Shit. The players are meeting about this. I need to hop on the jet and fly in that. Not necessarily this commissioner Schnur but what can you tell me about this world. We'll have to give up my partnership with Morgan. Stanley sources. Say defectors would face complications related to the releases necessary to play a non. PGA Tour Vince and loss of eligibility in the tourist lucrative pension program among other matters. You tell us what that is just the the releases that are needed. PGA Tour members to play and other events so it has a while ago or so as it's written right now in the PGA tour handbook basically says not basically literally says no PG digital remember Shell participate in any other golf tournament or events on a date when a PGA tour cosponsored tournament or event for which such member is exempt is scheduled and so what that means is remember the PGA tour. And someone wants you to go play in there any literally. Any event of if the match the match is a good example of something that like that was going on although that wasn't technically on the same date but still it's an outside. PGA Tour you know outside the PGA tour events so they needed to have it sanctioned by the PGA tour. Officially Tiger and Phil had to have releases sign. I'm sure there was a substantial seven-figure amount of money that changed hands in order for the match. Organisers to to make that like copacetic with the PGA tour but yeah basically it's the PGA tour defense so that you know and it's not just something like this doesn't pop anything that affects their meteorites right like them engaging in any competition outside of the PGA tour. Basically the tour Owns those meteorites. which again like that's wildly inconvenient for other media folks but of course it makes sense for me? PGA Tour Perspective if why they would do that. If you're the tour you you want to own these rights rights are worth the entire tour to you. That's what your values right. I mean I mean it's ridiculous that the tour would kind of flex this muscle now totally but at the same time the tour also signs releases go play. That's what I was GONNA say so for sure. So I think the way it's written in the handbook players basically can lobby for up to like three releases per year probably not going to get eighteen releases. This or ten wouldn't think that's probably going to happen. But you know if you're Bryson you can go play in. Dubai is because usually the tour will cut a deal. I'm like okay if you're skipping this event you probably got a plate next year or if you know those kinds of things future in Singapore couture in Singapore is another another good one but yeah I mean that that goes all the way to you know if you were doing a hypothetical web-based competition series like. Yeah the tour. You might have some feelings about that as well if you're on the Korn ferry towards yeah so I it all makes sense when you when you drill down into it but that's why financing is believed to come from a combination of sources including tokyo-based Softbank and private equity investment from several regions including the United States and the Middle East. That's not concerning. All each eight month season will begin in January compressive eighteen events ten of which will be played in the. US others airing during primetime again. This this is different than what the The PG questionnaire that news broke today Shots Evan priests could scoop there about The the Australian Open in Singapore. Open the Dunhill. Few other events are in negotiations with where I don't know how you would. I mean I guess I'm not sure for the high forty eight person Ersan national open very very Australia's Jason Day out of Scott rather than the traditional board will be three days of stroke play competition fifty four holes tournament. No cut with the quote. You don't send the world's best players home early that was saying it's like a press release but there's also these little jabs abs- yes sprinkled throughout these little editorial spoiling it Some of the first two days. We'll have a shotgun start to fit with five hour broadcast window so no slow air. This is a direct quote so no slow air and each final day will go to a to t start to maintain the traditional back-nine climax. So let's say they're at the Dunhill. Could you imagine going all right cool you you get to go off number one you have to. You have to on the road hole. It's not the dunhill links a different different tournament. Oh it's the South Africa. Yeah okay so they literally had to the start at the dunhill links at the old course. What's his name had to finish on the road hole was the guy that looks bear guard? Had to hit a to Weiner's something in the seventeen to finish on the road ball which I don't I don't really know how I feel about that. Well we'll get into it. Keep going all right so we can. We can start working into this document to kind of reads reads like a manifesto more. So that's where I missed the each final day. We'll go to a to t start. Yeah I maintain the traditional back-nine climax totally like to start on Sunday or on the final round is kind of diabolical to they do but the it feels over the forty eight person field. Yeah all right so this idea. I don't know how much we wanna read. But tron is our representative the PG l.. Expert here I was just going to ask you some questions from this. Documentary is read the interview. Transcript that imagine that you came up with this so so what is the league. Sorry I'm so so this is not it's a new improved format devised in consultation with the actually I thought this was interesting. Devising concentration with those who fund the sport at the highest professional level. So that would imply that they have partnerships lined up with sponsors You know large multinational corporations agents who who are already deeply involved in golf or have been in the past designed simply to be the best product golf is capable of producing and then so individual and team league format only the best playing against the best each week. I think a lot of what I'm paraphrasing here. But a lot of the criticism has been. Doesn't this just equate to like more. WG Yeah it's like the wgn it's like even a light W is less inclusive than the WGC's because WBZ lease bring if I may say a lot of undeserving international national players to the bottom of the leaderboard of a lot of WGC's But it is a world golf event in that regard Japan tour so I just go look at the bottom of the WBZ Z.. leaderboards is great tradition. This is like trims the fat of of that even as I can these forty eight players competing to win the individual world championship inch. which if if it's not a belt? Twelve teams of four competing to win the world championship. A compelling league format that will generate the strongest. I possible seasonal narrative. which going back to the? I don't know how they form these teams draft. I'd be kind of maybe phenomenal. uh-huh yeah this is where I stopped right here is like they are close to a lot of good ideas in a lot of this. Yeah so okay. There's a lot of different directions that we we can go here and you guys I'll I'll say a bunch of stuff and you guys picture which direction you WanNa go. This feels like the commissioner for Dave hundred percent and so that was going to be my first point one eighth baked idea not even a half baked. So I think that it's I think a lot of this is just politics because I think it is totally fully baked. If they've we've been working on it for six years or eight years or whatever and they approached all these people they have all this financing allegedly like her. There's a billion dollars sitting in the band in a bank account like do they have it. Fully billion dollars fully set aside liquid like I do think it is fully trans associates in Switzerland. But I think when you issue a completely unbiased aligned like unnamed press released like this you can literally say anything you want. So let's take all this with a grain green assault that like. Yeah maybe some of this stuff might come true but also if it doesn't like nobody's GonNa Care What are you gonNa do. It's not like we can just say whatever we want to drum up excitement about it. Just look the name change. There's been three names exactly exactly. So that's that's I would say a knock. There's a lot of Knox there's a lot of knocks but also so there's candidly a lot of things. I kind of like about it and you tell me if you don't like any of these things. I love the team. Aspect is no okay all the way to do it. All right. We'll circle back to that. I love fifty four holes instead of seventy two holes. Sure I think that's fine. Yeah I love a four-month off season. I think that's great. I I kind of low key. Love the shock starts. I think it's like chaos in that this is bullshit he had to start on. The hardest hole is a storyline. Every week I think that's kind of fun. Thinking about the telecast there were literally always be all the players are on the course at all times. There's always gonna be somebody doing something. The best thing about start would be. If they had the chaos often twosomes they're stacking their stacking six groups have a be abandoning the longest far four. But that would be if they found a network partner which I don't understand the network part of it yet whoever's broadcasting this has to be able to show all the drama all at once and multiple locations nations Oh my God no like the current partners cannot but you're also not on the. You're not on air of nine here for three days. Five hours very tight. Yeah I'm just saying like at the moment so I figure maybe it's a quad box thing. I don't know exactly how you do it but I want to preface all of this with like you could just throw out anything you can say anything you want about this. But what what they put in their weird fucking release was basically like digital coverage of every single group. Watch any player Red Zone at all times. Yeah so it's like of of course you're probably just hugging him from trying to drum up interest at this point but if that's true sick I'm in another thing I like. I think forty eight players. Your this sounds incredibly cold to the bulk of the PGA tour but you're quote unquote like trimming the fat right. I think even Lynch wrote a really good piece for golf week and the way he put it was each each week or each of these eighteen weeks. You're kind of getting rid of the The inconvenience of having to go through these other players. Who might it can be happening to? Have you know a hot week that week. So I think having forty players would lead to like the PGA tour always talked so much about trying to create rivalries right and how hard that is when you have out shit like angel. You weren't supposed to play well. This week is supposed to be filled versus you. Know whatever because as much as you subsidize the purses if if if one one of the guys that's not generating interest winds. That's kind of a fly in the right. I think I thought Ayman's Closing quote was great if the rumbling about a breakaway takeaway tour effort persists the tour. I might just have to consider that. The cost of appeasing antsy thoroughbreds is thinning. The herd of workhorses also cluttering the track each week. Make so I think that's good. I think the other humid had another good He had another good line. which was like this was going to be the exact stat? I was GONNA go look up. which was the one hundred? Th ranked player you're on the PGA tour money list. Carlos Ortiz made. How much money do you think one point? Two million one point two million dollars for finishing one hundredth compare that to the ATP you and you make almost double with that that player makes the ATP and so that's why I don't think we expressly said this but that's the point of all this. Is that the top players in the game. Aimar subsidizing the lesser players. It seems Roy's which I think everybody agrees like that's that's massively true. And we've been making that point on repeat because like I've used us now jail time for some reason the same guy always get becomes the brunt of this joke but like when Rory and William mcgirt both tie for eight they both walk away with the same amount of money. Yeah despite the fact that one of them William mcgirt of course puts butts in the seats. Kamanga sounds good one. We're all. We're all separately. Google even try to pick out other bad example. I'm googling the ATP money list because it seems like all right Novak Djokovic career earnings would you say his career earnings are thirty. Seven million one hundred four hundred twenty nine hundred twenty but you know so so looking at all more than and they've and they've all kind of split split up the pot over the last team players playing at the same time in the same generation integration have have all earned more than the greatest player to ever place for For some context Sampras forty three million so it seemed like you know. Obviously the things really took off Agassi thirty one million so the next closest to Nadal at one twenty is sixty one million so so those guys have made all awesome at least twice as much as the next closest guy and it's just so like if I'm asking you this what will what value did Charlie Hoffman and Patrick Rogers was provided to the tour this weekend to farmers and to the event this week. What hundreds of thousands of dollars according to the they both eight hundred eighty one thousand dollars? I did not see one Patrick. Roger Shot and they may have but I did not see one and that's not a slight to those guys. Yeah they're obviously very worthy players but like the way we've talked because this is a combination of so many things we've talked about over the course of years on this podcast all like coming together and that if if eventually these harsh realities get faced that this this is just a weird entertainment business then like. Why are all wise? Tom hoagie walking away with three hundred seven. Thousand who's creating the value. Yeah I get that. He finished fifth. And like that's the way this whole thing works ultimate meritocracy of you. Roll the Bah and your pay is based on your performance by. That's not how a lot of sports work and it's cool you know. There's there's there's two points I think it's cool in that. There is the whole under like the entire underdog component of golf right. Ah You know you've got a bunch of David's it's not it's not just all goliaths so I have a theory on this to that. Let's again a massive leap of faith but let's assume that everything thing goes down exactly the way they outline it in this weird press release. Suddenly the majors turn into this awesome like elitists versus the quote Unquote Underdog the Mon- Stars Richard Seriously. How cool that like? All kind of makes the majors. Better right you have these forty-eight guys roll into you know wing foot this year and you have this whole you have one hundred and ten other players with chips on their shoulders. Fuck these guys man like you know what I mean I I just I. I don't know I think that's I think that's kind of cool aspect of it. The other thing with the tour guys this week about it is it is significant that these guys have to cover their are on expenses for so for a lot of guys that significant. Yeah so so you know. Granted teas and you're making one point one million after you pay. Hey you're catty and you pay taxes you pay you know I'm not. I'm not crying. Poor for him to cash in the bank. You're probably spending one hundred and fifty to two hundred thousand dollars dollars between travel and swing coach and all that stuff I hear people say is like they take home is one third of what's reported on their PGA tour especially now that the a lot of the equipment and and apparel deals have dried up for for those guys outside of the top fifteen to twenty and to be clear take home I mean on that is after taxes after expenses after paying swing coach trainer minor caddy all the bonus for the caddy all the tips and log. Everything like you write off. It's like yeah you take on like one third of it so I agree with that but like whose problem is that no I mean. It's just the way that it structure. Its whole independent contractor thing but it's also worth knowledge in like like I didn't know it before last week that every person makes the. US Open gets ten grand. Yes which you know seems like all right cool. You know trim the fat a little bit because I do think there are way too many. PGA Tour Cards. There's way too many guys in some of these fields which to shock point to is like again the way and why this all works this way is like the. PJ tours mandate their actual responsibility on the executive levels to provide playing opportunities for members so like their executive pay is at least an aspect of their pay is based on. How many the literal number of starts that are made over the course of a year? PGA Tour hence the reach around season hence one hundred earn fifty six players and hence forty seven events or whatever it is so that's why but of course all that makes sense but what I keep coming back it is a has a fan. I agree with that. I agree on my problem. Tell me that so to like. There's there's twelve guys on major medicals or minor medicals next week in Phoenix. So so that's a good example to and and I'm not even like riding for this idea. I just think it's really fun and really interesting to talk about but okay I think what's super fascinating is when you really start. There was a line again in the weird ghost. Written press release it. We need to go back circulated we wrote it. It'd be like yeah there's getting punked for there's a line in there that like explicitly says if you were going to blow up you know if you were going to restart Gulf. Wouldn't look the way that it does today And I'm like yeah. No that's totally. That's totally true. As it exists the current way it does right one of the things. Ah when you start talking about major medicals and like well. How do you decide whether this guys in the field or this guy got in because of this and this exemption leads to this and this guy's got this many left on his medical this plus? Does this pose this man. It would be a lot easier to explain to somebody if there was just forty eight guys. Who got in and nobody else that makes so much more sense and so I think again? There's another very stupid line in there. That was talking about like you know grown. Of course there was the game stuff in there and it's easy to really is but when you really start thinking about. I'm curious what you guys think because I have my own answer but like does something like this is good for the sport. If this again assume everything goes through the way that they spell it out is good for the sport because I am going to get on the block that I think it actually is even though there are major reservations and we have no idea idea whether this is all being funded by 'EM BS or some weird Saudi collective or whatever but just from if it happened would it would more people watch golf even if it doesn't happen and it is it's a great thought exercise right it is going to force it. It's going to force the issue. It's either GonNa give leverage to to the players as this new rights deal get signed signed which that's sick as far as this thing basically sitting on his desk and which the twin announced the at which a you gotta wonder I heard what about Sports Business Journal that the TV deal was done but hasn't been announced announced yet new. got to wonder if this is huge contingency being built because if CVS side to seven hundred billion the dollar contract all the players left yeah. I've thought it's likely in the next three years. Assuming the TV deal where to go down as planned the the the Patriots were buys a European tour and Kinda unify. You figure out a way to unify the the the Rolex series in the Fedex Cup and all that and make it essentially like that like the one thou- or ATP one hundred thousand like that elite series before even though like why is that the goal or why is that good. I oh I think exercise here you know. Yeah I mean the European tour legitimately loses money for three straight years have Ryder Cup here and it funds the next three years which they lose money two years down the for their home. Ryder Cup Alien. Oh Yeah Oh yeah. That's the hormones are the ones that make money off of two thousand eighteen. They made money in the black. They're going to lose money the next three years and then twenty twenty back so I I don't know if I'm assuming overall that nets out near zero. Oh or somewhere near there where they can just be like I. I think that would be good for the game because it would be a unifying factor of like the what happens to the front. The Tha the next one hundred players a question that knowledge will carry as the other thing that that we talk about often. Dj's is there's it seems like there's a lot more similarities clarity between a Korn ferry event and kind of the bottom half of the PGA tour schedule versus the bottom half the PGA tour schedule. And say you know the majors agers and memorial players and you know some of those top tier events scheduled feels like it's getting very bifurcated. Yeah so what's the what's to say that that the fall series and some of these other events like they're they're already kind of a defacto to help panel series feeding in the other news from the player Advisory Council meeting was. I guess they're going to the tour is devising a new world ranking system their own world rankings. Yeah because they're getting screwed from the official world offering system uh-huh it's GonNa leave that there EXNER and keep his car So to answer your question is good for the game of golf it depends. There's two different ways. I think this will lead to more people watching off yes. I don't necessarily think it's good for the game ago when I think this is like I don't know what the PJ toward becomes after this but it's already like on the brink of like the way it's spelled out here it becomes a feeder tour. Were were this. PG L.. Yeah which is incredibly like jarring bold claim to make but like kind of just a runaway money-making machine do I think this is GonNa create like drama and really cool. They're going to nail all the details. That are going to make this important in good. No Awesome I. It's not this is not going to be like the world tour of amazing wonderful golf courses with you know perfect architecture. It's going to be you got vincent like all the most boring locations which were following money. It's like events is Saudi Arabia's GONNA move into the. Singapore is going to be middle events in the middle of the night. It's not GonNa be something that you know as much as it is mundane week-to-week on tour. There's like a built in history with so many of these places like how many times have we seen guys make putts on on the eighteenth green at Torrey Pines. I is part of new tune in every week and so losing all that tradition for a glorified. WGC Tour and the WGC's have so over the years. No I not on that. I where I think you. You asked about the team aspect like trying to individual N.. Team complete disaster. I think guy's an absolute disaster. This agree on that has to be the Champions League of golf and this is like or like T- twenty in cricket like this is totally totally separate this is just teams and you only are playing match-play Champions League that they also they play those teams play in the or sorry. The champions Abe's league and then there's like the the euro final right like there's there's different Yay cups you can play. It's different. I'm just saying this has to be a totally separate league and format and a totally different vibe other than like going to watch individuals play stroke play so I think that's something you were touching on. There is a massively important. The thing to point out which is that. There's a idealistic version of how this can shake out. And there's a realistic version of how can shake out. And I think that the idealistic version it is awesome and I think it shakes. I think if they'd like you said they nail all the details I think that would be an extremely compelling product and I think it would get a lot more people people to watch and I think you could solve a lot of the issues that has you could create more stars I think people get paid quote unquote fairly. You know what I mean by that and I think that'd be great religions realistic version. Like I have no confidence that anybody in the world is going to be able to talk to like this group of people and nail it closest. I do think though it beyond the money a guy like rory or tiger how enthused he was after playing role Melbourne would be that that seems like a really really. That'd be a smart way for them to Sweden it for these guys by saying you know. Hey we are gonna go to really cool court variety of really architecturally significant courses. This is that you know. I think that would be where your skill level will be John. Yeah I think the best version if we go back to the idealistic version is something you brought brought up tron which is if the euro tour in the PGA tour merged and you basically allow them to kind of bifurcated themselves in this way where you almost have like a organized way of doing this exact thing where it's like. Let's let's yes. Let's take the best events in the PGA tour and the best from the euro tour and create a separate series. These guys are going to get paid. Paid more Blah Blah Blah. I think that makes more sense or seems more realistic to me. But of course that hasn't even been talked about so it's kind of pulling that out of thin air going back to the team team thing too. So let's say it's hurt. How does how does that work? I mean I've I've so many questions like procedurally about how this would work where I almost feel like all right instead of doing teams with four teams of six. Make it like high school or College Golf to where you got six guys playing you. Count for five guys playing for that that and then it can't be overstated. How awesome I think? Maybe you disagree solid. But I don't think he'd be overstated. How awesome the team aspect could be and this is where where I think the team and individual? I think totally works if you have. Okay Rory mcilroy is your captain quote unquote and he has to decide which players he wants on his team but like I was that not Capelli's every week that just I'm saying just make a team that I love the team part but I hate trying to be half in half out player on ball also. Why not just I'm alive? Product you keep track of no. You're playing individual stroke play tournament and then also the WHO's winning the tournament all Roy's winning houses team to I. Yeah I don't really know that's a lot to ask people to keep track of like with if you're going to everyone on the course at the same time and everyone finishing at the same time trying to keep track of like. Oh Yeah who's winning the team aspect and their team Ms Blah Blah Blah and. This team all worry that his college golf. Oh no no no. No they don't know comes down to matchplay no every tournament other than the NCW championship is is not on television. Made for television is compelling at the visiting team. Yeah some some of it is Going back to Formula One which you set your life but Formula One is probably the close sparks. Nation is where you have the the constructors series where each Ferrari and Mercedes and all that like they all have they all the teams and then you get points based on finishes and all that which would be funny if they had callaway tablist literally. That was one of the equipment. Companies own the teams. Yeah now but but that was that was a really interesting part of all the press releases to you you know they would be equity stakes from some of the players where one of my things is. It seems like there's there's some players that are very very keen on the stuff that just want to grab the bag with the money. Like like Phil I was GonNa say not to put two and two together too much. But Phil's nonchalance about appearing in Saudi Arabia and Soft Bank's you know association with both of these things kind of seems like a an interesting coincidence. Doesn't it well. I think my my thing would be like why. Why other than Phil delivering short-term eyeballs it? Would it would be valuable. Had Phil own a team is. He's turning fifty in in these games eroding elements he'd be so loose as owner owning. Yeah but not as a player like the elements to think about like if we're having a draft. Ah We get how. How much conduct could we get? I know we had a draft right now. Who are you take? Who's going number one off the board? I think about it Roy. He's he's in his thirties. You want him for life or you want rob. Jt Five extra years is a lot like what are you taking like. It's a it's a real quest for sure. Yeah and there's now some of these. Some of these teams developed distinct identities. Yeah like over there. They get this guy because they play their home. Matches are at Torrey Pines Phil Phil would be et Al Davis maybe he drafted and the guy that runs a four to forty and this is the home stadium. The home fans sounds like Tiger owns a team. That could be a ten event part of so this is where I ultimately think is all going to end up is there has to be you for a lot of reasons. I'm not saying I would want this. But the tour needs to be involved in this and that sounds like sacrilegious based on our feedback. But I have a hard time. I am seeing all these guys. quit the tour and just be done with the PGA tour. I just don't believe that's going to happen whether it'd be sick if they did that. But from from what it sounds like the tour is going to flex their muscles and I believe one of the phrases that I've read is take legal action against those that would potentially be leaving the tour. I don't know what that means to your Chin. One of they're one of the points in this Cuban Independence Day the additional questions after the press conference. Let's see it's time to get to this. I read that too. It was like yeah I will artur players. Pensions being threatened is like no. They've earned it. It's it's it's it's basically deferred income which I don't know there's complications within that and that all of this comes down to tiger woods if if they don't have tiger they do not have any of this. I would agree. I think I think like well. How if you're a young player or something? How do you go out on the cliff by yourself? I think it makes sense for the actually. The one comment. Yeah because he's just floating. It'd be like Yo. Let's get this out in the room and take everybody's temperature on. Let's get it out in the open and so you can make an educated point. I don't think it's a decision to be made if there's tiger because I don't think the money is there without pressure too so I think in the the twenty nineteen Presidents Cup team run by the PGA tour. Do you think like within the next year. He's like okay. Thanks for like I'm done. Thanks for the hundred and twenty ninety million and all the other mo like. I'm without as far as I know. Times never made demands of the tour to change anything any part of the Royal Hell of a lot more provoke and tiger about the the way that the money gets divvied up in the current structure and forget it. He says he spoke out about that. He said it like is his quote. Yesterday I thought it was like. Hey Hey you know I'm I'm a traditionalist I like I like the PGA towards it's home for me. Like I a hard time thinking we're just GonNa you know go up and and totally upend the game but at the same time there are structural changes that need to be made with both with regard to the top players. So that's where I think it's going to end up with the the players negotiating with a tour to get their their way on some things so I agree with everything you said however however well how does tiger forty four right like. Are you really making a seismic decision. On what the next fifty years of professional golfer going to be like based on the next five years. He's GonNa play Professional Golf. He makes you know what I'm saying like okay. I agree if they don't have tiger. They don't have anything okay. Well then what happens after tiger retired. Why don't they just do it? like this is their issues. You're going to have to face eventually here right. I think they're trying to cash in on the tiger woods part of it. No I agree totally but you know what I'm saying that AH if anything that kind of just kick the can down the road to have to be dealt with later so I don't know if they're thinking that far ahead but point being I it does seem like you're gonNA have to make some changes so that okay if it doesn't happen this time like how do we make sure it doesn't happen ten years from now. I think that was Roy's point on you know. Hopefully this helps push the PGA tour forward now as a golf fan. What I'm not lobbying for here is like man hopefully the PG toward embraces appearance fees and then everybody will be happy because that doesn't fix six any of the holes in the market here? You know what I mean. That doesn't fix why it's boring to watch golf. It doesn't fix why there's no rivalries doesn't fix any of that shit. It puts more money in Roy pocket. DOC It nobody has more than me but I can't say I felt like super warm fuzzy when he won fifteen million dollars at East Lake. That didn't really change changed my my world view. This was an interesting quote in here. Multinational blue chip brands WANNA reach gulfs valuable fan base but some of walked away and others have failed to engage unable to justify the return on investment investment. These brands want to be associated with the best but off but too often struggle to to to work out where the best will play which is totally true. Imagine being a title sponsor on the tour. And you don't Kony of that and then tire doesn't show your for fifteen years. Yeah Yeah I agree. And that's where I keep coming back to the tour needing to be involved this because it is as is it reads now one or the other right. You can't have the League the team League and the PGA tour. You can't park both them so if the tour do I trust the tour to get all the details of this right now but let's let's dream for a second. I think that is that is an important thing like the the the reason that this conversation is happening is because of the tour Shortcomings in some of the things. Because of yes how shitty. CBS has been like all that stuff comes back to having this conversation I totally agree now with the so. This is very separate from the match for me because the match felt like a one time thing like. Hey let's do this weird random thing and I felt like the tour came in and neutered neutered it a little bit. which I don't think is necessarily the case here? I think what they had. The players have so much bargaining power. Here that's like. Hey No we WANNA start this big grab bag of of money thing. It is ten events already have opposite field events like give us like ten eighteen weeks a year. Yeah maybe I struggle with that though. 'cause like Zurich his team me new our partners like hey no no team. Tiger is playing team. Fill this week. But doesn't that just feel like it's going to turn into like a shitty. Hey on risk reward thing that is so manufacturers sounds like the WWE WWF like. I I see what you're going I see where you're going but it just feels like such a half measure that's not like it would get fucked up in like the marketing department right where just turn into it. Almost seems like a national team going and playing a friendly like like I like you know the. US is going to play. Costa Rica just a warm up for the gold clipper for. I think we would just make fun of that as well. It's just an exhibition that's like made up for TV. Like why I'm not going to care about. This is what I mean like. It feels like they have to go. I don't know not without overstating it does feel kind of like a watershed moment. Where you gotta decide which which side you're going to be on because is that I think I don't think you can half ass fixes that are being exposed here so I don't think you can throw marketing at it? I don't think you can like I just I don't know man. It's very very very very complex. Some questions for you guys. Who would your twelve owners be that that is three different gases? GEICO are we saying. Let's just lean players or owners. I would assume its former players. Celebrities are owners. I would think I would think Tigers Phil Ernie. I don't think it would have to be players. I think there's I think the owner also okay serious point but I just want to try to make sure we get all all things were were supposed to talk about here but like a massive difference in this new league would be the fact that you know we kind of Jab all the time at player run organization this would be an owner run organization and so there would be a lot of the world's best players who would be very very different spot than they're in right now which is were the boss like. We're the the Union we make the rules do everything to make us happy versus oche it. NBS is the owner and he wants me to go do this like I don't WanNa do that. It's like well tough shit man. You're you signed up. You gotta go play all eighteen events but even if you're an equity owner you're still it's still a certain. Certain percentage majority owner owner basically instead of a player basically massive difference. What what does this help okay well? Nba I'm NBS sir. Mr Mr mcelroy signed for to a four year one hundred million dollar deal to play for our team totally be interested in that. No I get it but ten events a year ten team imagine in free agency. Let's say it'd be awesome like so. I don't think you're getting any of the excitement of what we're talking about here with an individual and a team aspect of it like kind of Formula One and with strokeplay event like. I don't think that's what it is. I don't think you're getting that I just yeah. I don't know I'm struggling to grasp why why you're not into that because I think I mean it's it's just playing your own ball anyways like you're always GonNa know who shot the lodestone. Somebody have an individual winner every week in Formula One when when the to when yes sebastian convertible and Lewis Hamilton. or whomever or like like you. You have two guys on the same team going at it for a win. They're still. They're still compete competing just as hard and crazier shade even happens because of that. Which I didn't realize I was reading the handbook this week that there's also an express line in there that Player shall not have any financial interest either direct or indirect in the performance or winnings of another player in any of it so my minuses class minuses classic but Yeah that's kind of interesting. You know just another tours house on it tomorrow be like how like this. Forty eight is. It's purely objectives it purely Shirley. How do you guys like like just plays like absolute shit? What they get relegated and then do they go crawling to the tour with their tail Winner legs yeah. That's that's the wildest part to me I would assume so. Again was deepened. Handbook this week. But I think the tour has I read a lot. I might be mistaken here but I thought they had a one year Like a one year Kinda like sit out period. If you've given up your membership you WANNA come back. I gotTA. I'll double check that but I think it basically says like you can't just walk back and you've got to wait like a twelve month. Twelve month period. I've got the name of the tour. It's the Cortez tour. You Burn. Burn the boats once you once you jump over the tour you burn the boat. I would think that would be the tourist main defense in this right is changing a change to the handbook. That's like if you give give up your give your membership. You're out you're out. You elect Rosie gotTa go through me. You're cut off. It's just amazing to me that the this Sousse somewhat exists out there with WGC's like hey let's do something to get the the players know cut and get the top players more money and they're still going to go. Oh potentially go outside of this whole realm for more for different Gulf. I thought it was a good example of like okay. who was that created to to benefit it was created to benefit players? Then you basically sacrifice making it interesting for the fans yes and that's what creates this whole vacuum right whereas like for the nine hundred the time I know. They're they're pipe-dream here but if everything went according to what they've laid out. Yeah it kind of interesting for the fan and good for the players. So it's that seems seems like a I don't know it seems like the best compromise. One of the most interesting parts was there's a flex on the Fedex Cup being convoluted in here in this in this Acuna. There's there's a flex on the fact that the tour doesn't pay taxes A- believe is first off we're going to pay taxes again. We don't know where the money's money's coming from and it could be deeply darkly disturbing places you plan to launch the League in January two thousand twenty twenty two we'll use exceed we were told you can't take on the establishment win but we aren't taking on the establishment. We intend to work with WHO TALK to the press conference. Who told you you couldn't take on established Fox no and then they said You know twenty percent of this will be owned by foundation that they're going to set up the the will pay taxes. Because they they trust the government to distribute that money properly. That's going to be a huge yeah hugely popular most the world's the best golfers the very liberal leaning exactly locker but said we've We've also created a foundation that generate approximately three hundred million in dividends in a lump sum of two billion by two thousand twenty. Eight part of this will go back into the game. The rest will support charitable causes in perpetuity so they they said you know the PGA tour has had and she continued. Tremendous charitable impact at one point. They're like yeah. We're basically going to funnel money back back to these. Organizations already exists both amateur golf amp professional golf. which would lead me to believe that they're gonNA they're gonNA provide welfare to the PGA or another popular locker charitable organization? I love it. Will top players really leave their existing tours to join their number a number of reasons. We believe they will the the first being money. Also the one question for you guys was the Greg Norman saying back in the early nineties like ninety four was that was the r the w directories all of that more or less. I don't because they say they. They kind of they kind of his idea down with like the mustache and the glasses. Yeah this is the new tour. I I think that was the idea. I could definitely be wrong about this but grossly Over simplified version. Is I think Greg Norman was kind of floating. Something very similar alert to this and definitely not doing that. But here's the WDC's instead have you spoken to the players. Are they supportive apologies. We aren't in any position to discuss. Let's go for the next question so no players have committed. Unfortunately we can't discuss this thing but yeah I thought it was interesting shack in his column said you know. He's basically documents is down and it sounds like I was blown away at how how cogent and well thought out and and I guess this. The Rain Group is pretty. Well thought of. Yeah I mean. It's like legitimately only the document read like I'm not joking when it's something we would type up like more of a parody but it's a it seems like a middle finger documented like no no. We're not messing around. We're going to the other first off the outlines of what I'm saying this is real. I clearly this is very very real thing. I think it just all goes back to like one decision. Point it's like is is tiger woods middle finger. The tour I think the whole thing is contingent one hundred percent on that. I don't think he will. I could be wrong. I don't know if he's offered an ownership stake in this is and that's why I I can only picture this happening with the tour coming to the table either saying like either. I don't even know if this is a desire of a lot of players but I think one of the things that is very appealing to this to this for the top layers is the appearance fee. Money like getting paid off the top. which the tour has mechanisms is in place to be able to do that? They like to say that you don't they don't pay you can't get paid appearance fees on tour but that's not really. The case is funneling money to players you know through sponsorship up to play in their events and Hash tag team their stuff at a lot of events like two weeks they do harbor content. I could name names of events. It's that do it but to predict coverage the nation but like it happens. That's one thing that could spring out of this like no no if you're in this whatever Q.. Rating like you can get a million bucks to show up at and that is kind of goes back to what I was saying earlier like. I think that would solve the problem for the players but I think it would just kick the can down the road on a lot of other stuff and I think golf. Would the telecast wouldn't change the fan experience wouldn't the wouldn't be more star players. People would have more money in their bank account. That would be the the only thing that would fix other so a lot of the talk in. They're not in this transcript but in in in the other outline that they released was talking about the actual televised product. Right now. They seem set on like no no. We're GONNA make this more entertaining. Yeah and granted. They'd have to go. They'd they'd have to go negotiate. Say they would have to figure out a lot like a have to figure out like a domestic media partner assuming that the tour locks up its meteorites like who is willing to shell out equal or greater value for you know televised golf and then internationally. I think that was a big thing that you you know the tour wrapping up their discovery stuff and kind of putting all of their international rights into one deal is a lot different than going into negotiating individually with every recent country which is what the tour used to have to do? So you would think this new group would have to do so. I don't know man it's there's so we could talk for three hours. There's just so much to part once again and then you know like let's say most of the events are in prime time in the US like the maybe there's less of them and there's but it's a cleaner broadcast you have to. That's that's appealing to sponsors into. I hope that would be the fallout of it. Like I can't help but think though it's going to be kind of like Dubai this week which is great for your viewers but like if there's an event in the Middle East like those times don't lineup very great for the events in Asia fucking fans outside the US. I know I know but I'm saying this would suck for For fans it is telling though that a lot of those golf ins within Europe and you see how much win the European tour is sucking. Eventually you know they're like there's a reason that the PGA towards the worldwide leader in Golf. One thing I was thinking about about would just be like if I don't know why nobody's tried this. And and so the bad little nine out in Scottsdale. The Charlotte says rupe charge of the troops. Bob Parsons could you imagine watching like let's say it's a team event even of like you know. Every year. They switched it up a little bit and they do two or three events of you know hey like like just in this theme of rethinking everything go send like tiger and Ricky. Njit the go play that course sixty yard wedge shots to the the craziest Crown Greens. I've you've ever seen like seeing seeing bacon or or Zakar. Those guys videos of playing that course like I think that would be so much more fascinating to watch on. TV is just all right. We do this once every four years we go to the bad little nine. Sure there's a ton again a ton to like about this but just net out at like okay. The power of the tour has in this scenario is very very very real. If you ask me Oh yeah and like I. Just don't I can't picture you know fifty fifty if you're descending right now if this happens or not with the deciding factor being the tour players are GonNa nuke their PGA tour status. I don't think that they will yeah. That's an interesting interesting way to put it. I guess if if it was fifty fifty I would probably say no. It's not going to happen as well. Yeah all right. Who Do you think that the players I I? It's like a diet version of Gary player minus the unsavory. Yeah I if Tiger said nothing phil we try to be the ringleader. It'd be like it's it's like what's Bryson Patrick. Read which I think. There's a very real scenario here to where you know to your point. I know what you're saying like macro percents like if they don't have they don't have it but what if they had a couple of guys like and they've been working on it for this long and they have the money lying around in a bank account like they might very well may make push at it right. So there could be this weird splintered thing where you have Phil and Brooks and Bryson and Patrick read like and then you have have a bunch of weird guys from like the number sixty five in the world and like you have this group of misfits that go give it a shot and then like the private equity the money dries up or something and then these guys are just like hang makes one too. Many bad bets were just hung out in the wind. So there's one million the one one aspect of this we haven't talked about is the the power of the tour players now have especially the top ones with reported dollar amount increase in media. Money like the power. They had to go to them back. Yo that money going because I would like some of that and I deserve some of that and should get some of that. I I don't mean just like paying adding more money to persons. The persons are definitely going to go up. But I do extra million bucks like it wasn't a I. Don't I think it was a coincidence. PGA Tour media or the Players Championship media is next week correct. Why did they? Why did they announce the person crease this past week? Why didn't they just wait to media day like I think that's out there? You know kind of counter some out of two point seven million. One of the things I thought was interesting in their release again. We could talk about this for five five more hours. Blue Blue Me. We will but referencing breaking away from the PG of America back in the sixties to form the first. I think I thought I was like man I get this happened before. Yeah and then. They talked about English premier league. They talked about ATP They talked about cricket like World Series Cricket and how kind of shorter ashes and all that so. And that's where. I think if if I was betting after hearing myself talk about it for an hour and a half now and crystallizing thoughts a little bit more. I could see it if it gets kicked down. The road like happening in a post tiger world where he doesn't hold all the more dialed back version of it. Yeah essentially but I just don't know if the if all the money because really even to make it fair for for like based on their the principles or the philosophy that they're using cool. I Give Tiger twenty percent percents this and then the other team owners get two percent. Well so do you want something. Higher can do into his later years. That doesn't necessarily involve like playing a lot of golf. How much do you like being the owner of one of these teams? That goes on. Please matchplay notre. But that's to your point though like what you just said. I don't know if the money's there in a post tiger world okay do you think it's subsidized fucking Scott Brown and like those guys up on the PGA tour. I think it is in twenty years from now. You you think like the do doing now. And the money's going way up like I don't know how reading that no mercy no malice newsletter about Fedex. Yes has their own issues but but even basically all right so going back to the question about who are this twelve owners you have or or captains or whomever so tigers essentially subsidizing those eleven other guys too. You have the same problem just on a on a less. I'll you think about his team. Like let's say his team is the whatever the the cats I really hope they don't come a TV thinking about that'd be awesome. That would be so. How much merchandise with the cat like? Think about it can be the most valuable franchise right off the bat. He would have an ownership stake in this he could sign Franks Franks the mascot. He could get you sign rory to whatever contract he wanted to or all these things I think. Guy Let me dream about a league with teams and trades and free agent signings and cuts and Y- Rama. That goes with all that we the cats three the rights to June of the amazing. So so I mean yeah well again before we go further down a wormhole in this like anything. Anything else that needs to be added. Now I think we're going to have several discussions. There's a there's a separate discussion about well. What would you from from a media side of things? There's is a separate discussion about. Yeah the all the fun stuff you could do around for discussion about the reasons behind this and why it exists why the what. The Torres specifically failed on that have kind of created the conditions for this. But going back I think I think it's a thought exercise overall. I think either way. I think it's good for the Golf Fan. Regardless of what happens like rory. Rory's seems like a pretty well measured. Dude he's not going to jump into this if it if if it seems like an absolute shit idea even if there's a big pile of money in the short short-term it's because that's not going to serve his long like he's he takes a long view. It's not going to serve as long term interest. I had extensive conversation with him about this. The couple of weeks ago. I'm not going to share the details of it of course but it is definitely definitely decidedly not like. Hey here's a big stack of money. I'M GONNA run do this. There was a ton of thought and consideration but bottom line is it's forcing. The conversation is a good thing for golf fans. I think right the question of hey if you were to take golf away. They right now and rebuild it. It wouldn't look like it is is like fascinating. It's absolutely a million times true. I guarantee if you were to start over. Sorry Thom Hoagie you to make you subject to this like you wouldn't walk away with three hundred thousand dollars this week. That's the way it's not the way it would end up being moving forward once that new TV deal goes into place once those details details of assuming that happens. It's going to be really interesting to see. If the person's go up like how that money gets distributed out to the extra money purses versus go up proportionally from four hundred million to seven hundred million. Just seems like it's GonNa exacerbated all the problems or the Fedex Cup goes up that much or or do or do you make it more lopsided towards winners. Yeah how do you know. All the facts come is is just a scheme to distribute massive amounts of money. You you know we will see. I can't wait to see more. That comes out week by week. The now that it's out there there's nothing to stop. Well it's great for us because I golf channel Oh can't run with this stuff being a partner the PGA tour. And I get it really just going to exist in the ether. Still for the most part of the tour is going to try to keep until player until a player like right right. I hope that I wonder if players get asked press. Conferences and gold variety was going back to the whole. TV thing. I can't figure out like CBS crime. Poor all the time. Well Yeah you know we got we got to do all these commercials because it's just not profitable to broadcast this because the ratings are cool like why are you. Why are you offering up seventy seventy percent more on the next? TVD We would have been fine with you going away. Don't have to pay for this separate discussion so all right. I think we're good to wrap it at that we have another interview coming later. This week Part two of Discussion with Brad. Faxon cut up last week at the PGA show more on putting leading and just another great poop story and a lot a lot of facts could we might do like eight of these. Of course the is just an Alzheimer. It's just the facts. Just the facts. Thanks so Gentlemen thank you for coming over tonight. I'm it was fun spirited discussion. I can't wait to circle back on the draft for the Saudi of what was going to say I got the The the Korn ferry that goes on Panama or the teen America's swing Panama in Colombia. LPGA AJ's off this week. They're going down to the VIC open and the Australian Open and of course we have as brands call it the green a show on grass. I don't know anybody Eh. Actually 'cause it that but apparently they keep saying that they do all right. Well correct on cheers. Thank you tune in and we'll see you guys again at this time next week club. Speedo right club today. They better than most about. It is better the lowest expecting things.

golf Tiger Greens CBS PGA Kobe Dubai Tiger POD John Rob Rob Finish Geoff SHACKELFORD Bryson Rory commissioner Mr Polera Tori mark Leeann United States