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Hundreds rally in Washington, DC for continued access to vaping and other smoke-free alternatives
"Of rallying in D. C today to rather four continued access to Vaping and other smoke free alternatives from the the Theo Theo United United Vapors. Vapors. Alliance Alliance showed showed up up in in D D C C this this weekend weekend to to bring bring awareness awareness to to the the current current pathway pathway to to market market for for Herb. Herb. King King products. products. The The FDA right now is trying to regulate this a tobacco product, and I think it's very important for, uh, consumers understand that of aging product contains no tobacco. Dimitri aggressively. O T is executive director of the Tennessee Smoke Free Association traveled to the event to raise awareness. He says that smoking killed his father, and that Vaping was the only thing that helped him successfully quit smoking 10 years ago when it was set up to regulate his product doesn't even match the category of knowledge. Valerie bonked. W T. OBY News. The
California bans flavored tobacco products
"Governor Newsome assigned a lawmaker passed bill that bans flavored tobacco products in California. The band kicks in the first of next year. It'll include cigarettes and vaping cartridges. The bill's sponsor, Senator Geri Hill, says there's been a sharp increase in tobacco use among teens who favor the flavored
California bans flavored tobacco products
"A ban on flavored tobacco products in California kicks in the first of next year. The band covers most flavored tobacco products, including cigarettes in Vaping cartridges. The move comes as lawmakers came to the conclusion that most of the products in question are targeted to
Vaping linked to risk of COVID-19 in teens, young adults
"Do you have a teenager in your house who've apes? Well, here's the health warning. First, it was concerns over the nicotine content any cigarettes for teens. Now a new study links the habit to Corona virus. Researchers at Stanford University School of Medicine have discs. Over that teenagers and young adults who've ape face a higher risk of covert 19. Then those who don't the study also shows that those who ve for 5 to 7 times more likely to be infected because of the damage caused to their lungs. It also revealed that lower socioeconomic status was linked to a higher risk of being diagnosed. Lisa Matteo CBS
The prohibition against marijuana in the hospital
"Francis has just been hospitalized for the third time for cancer while at home. She's been managing the chemotherapy much better than expected in the hospital. She's frustrated at home. She's treating her nauseousness and her anxiety with marijuana, but in the hospital she's not allowed to use marijuana even if she brings her own edibles or vape pen for Francis, a hospitalization is already an anxiety provoking experience, but is now even more so because she can't use what she knows will calm her down. The majority of states thirty five have legalized marijuana for medicinal uses and millions of Americans use it for. For medicinal purposes, and even more for recreation to relax well many state governments have chilled around marijuana use and focused their drug enforcement efforts elsewhere. Hospitals cling to the past. They feel a strong need to forbid marijuana. No, surely there are a few patients are on medications that might interact with marijuana and doctors and patients should discuss these situations, but what hospitals are doing as forcing patients to be sneaky what Francis has found is that the only way she can reliably relax is with marijuana, so she's forced to act the way she did when she was a teenager and sneak into her hospital room. This is complete nonsense and And it creates a situation where Frances and her doctors are not focused on her best health so now. Doctors don't know what she's taking, so they can't advise her against US marijuana. If there is a really good medical reason for her to abstain, there are many reasons to allow people to use marijuana, the hospital or nursing home if they wish most importantly for conditions, such as chronic pain, anxiety and nausea, it is effective therapy and is often better than prescribed expensive medicines, and if the person is using marijuana and his force to suddenly stop when they come into the hospital, it can cause her symptoms to worsen. Yes, the. The feds are still in the dark ages and consider marijuana a schedule one drug, but they're not pursuing law enforcement at hospitals and healthcare facilities. When a doctor provides a medical need, there are some hospitals, even the Mayo Clinic that have allowed patients to use marijuana in the hospital and in states like California were having. Marijuana is not a crime. There are no state prohibitions on hospital. Use so like much in medicine policies are often remnants of days gone by, and they had not change to keep up with science or demand. Hospitals seemed to be more concerned about upsetting regulators than helping patients, assuming that there's not sound medical. Against Marijuana use a particular person. Francis can't wait to get out of the hospital, but in the meantime she has her stashed marijuana that she takes twice a day and not a single staff member knows about it.
Suspects on home monitoring not being watched, Chicago police say
"Back to Alderman O'Shea O'Shea. Thought we were talking about Vaping earlier, but there's a lot. There's a lot going on in the city. Aziz, you probably have noticed, and I want to just kind of since you're here, old man. I want to ask you. You know what? What do you think? The most pressing issue for the city right now is you look at everything on the agenda. I know the budget is front and center, and there isn't Great news there. There's a lot. There's a lot of holes to fill this year. And next. Is you Look forward. What? What can you tell us? Way have very difficult decisions out of us pertaining to our budget. But I think the most pressing thing right now is the, um unbelievable amount of violence we have seen and some of our communities of the past several weeks record numbers and I feel like every weekend. It's a competition to surpass the weekend before, um Chicago Police continue get dozens and dozens of guns off the street for weekend. But you know, we keep having these These incidents of, uh, you know, mass shootings, you know, just last night in our neighboring auburn Gresham community you had, uh, you know, Our group fires into a crowd. Five people shot 10 minutes later. Full box away. Tell it toward gunfire. People shot. Um the unbelievable level of gun violence right now in our city is the most precious thing we have to. We have to try to, uh, you know, get some of these bad people off the street. You know, That's something that point is, well, we'll take it and I just I feel like we talked about this yesterday, and I'm hearing it again from the police superintendent and some of the top brass have been doing interviews today, and they're they're they're honing in on It's home monitoring system that they're saying is failing. The police department at the police department goes in. They find the guys with the gang members they might have. They have some sort of record. They're caught with an illegal weapon and they get the home monitoring system. There are 3000 of them connected to the county jail. There are 1000 of them connected to the county courts. And basically, no one's really watching them after they get out, and they directly pointed them as some of the key suspects in the last three weekends of the most violent crimes in our city that there seems to be this disconnect. Between the courts and what's happening with the whole monitoring system. I get this whole idea about the jail and the risk of Cove. It might make some judges more lenient on that sort of thing. But when you see this sort of pattern do you agree with the police superintendent when he makes these calls, and the mayor has mentioned it as well? About those calls to say, You know what? There's something about this home monitoring system that's failing us all failing those communities and putting these violent offenders back on the streets. Uh, 100%. I agree with the superintendent and the mayor, and, um I mean, peach, and every week we continue to see young innocent Children out in front of their own homes. How many young Children have to die? And where is the outrage? Yeah, We're almost desensitized to it as a city, And that is utterly frustrating. Um, the families decimated by gun violence. Um Absolutely. We have it. We have a problem with the monitoring system. There are thousands of bad people. Repeat gun offenders are on the street today and each and every weekend when we look at the numbers somebody involved in these shootings. Has a very extensive criminal record. That should not be out on the street. We need to figure out a way to get them off the street where they continue to go back and commit these violent crimes more often than not. Shooting innocent people, not the rival gang member. Um, it's it's so disheartening. It is.
Los Angeles Fire Department to inspect vape and smoke shops after downtown explosion
"Wholesale review of smoke shop and vape supply distribution warehouses in LA under way after the fire and the explosion that injured twelve firefighters LA city fire chief Ralph Terrazas says crews at all one hundred six fire stations will survey their service areas locate smoking vape shops and then three hundred and twenty five fire inspectors will go through those locations to make sure they're operating safely and in compliance with city codes as for the investigation into the cause of the board street fire to Raza says they're waiting for results from the national response team from the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms to come out every day all evidence gathered and I don't want any issues related outside investigation to impact the investigation when data on the cause of the fire and explosions confirmed Russell says the city council's public safety committee will be advised and additional ordinances to protect public safety may come out of those future discussions P. Dimitry okay and extend seventy
Three of 11 Injured Los Angeles Fire Department Firefighters Have Been Released From Hospital
"To LA firefighters are is still in critical condition after being caught in a fireball that Brian was talking about from an explosion at a wholesale business for vaping supplies in the toy district downtown LA three of the eleven firefighters taken the hospital have been released the two that are in critical have been taken out the
COVID-19: What the Autopsies Reveal
"Gibbs reports on how pathologists are starting to get a much closer look at the damage that covert nineteen does to the body by carefully examining the lungs hearts kidneys and other organs of people who have died while infected with the novel Corona Virus. Wait spoke with experts at the Cleveland Clinic. And the University of Washington who have performed these high risk autopsies very few of which have been done so far in the United States. Covert nineteen is a new disease and doctors have been struggling to figure out how best to treat it putting people on ventilators as always a last resort for other diseases typically about half the patients who go onto a ventilator do not survive but Kobe nineteen patients seemed to do even worse on mechanical ventilation a study in the UK found that only about a third of corona virus patients survived that experience and in a report published on April Twenty second in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Researchers found even more alarming outcomes recently in New York City analyzing data from twelve large New York hospitals during March. They found that out of three hundred twenty patients on ventilators. Two hundred and eighty two died so only about one in nine survived mechanical ventilation. We know this. New Corona virus damages the lungs. But how exactly does it differ in important ways from influenza and other VIRAL INFECTIONS? Some experts have suggested that the virus can infect and damage the heart as well and maybe the kidneys or even the brain when people are seriously ill with Cova nineteen. They seem to be at higher. Risk of blood clots. But it's really hard to determine from lab tests and fuzzy medical images whether it's the virus damaging these other organs or whether the body's own immune system fouling up the works as it generates massive inflammatory response to combat the corona virus. Any kind of lung injury can result in acute respiratory distress syndromes. This is a disease process that we've known about for a long. It's a very typical pattern of injury that we see in the lungs when they're injured for many many different kinds of reasons. That's disarray Marshall. A pathologist at the University of Washington. She says that it's often the cascading organ failure triggered by acute respiratory distress syndrome or A. Rds The causes elderly people to die from influenza and firefighters to die from smoke inhalation and cancer patients to die from reactions to chemotherapy. The pressing question. We need to answer for Kobe. Nineteen is whether it's just a rds that makes the disease deadly or whether this new diseases different and even more complicated to treat them what doctors have seen before well if you watch TV you know what medical examiners do when they want to figure out what killed somebody. There's just no substitute for a thorough and detailed autopsy earlier this month researchers published the first English language autopsy results on people who died after becoming infected with the novel Corona Virus. The paper appeared in the American Journal of Clinical Pathology on April tenth. It describes to interesting cases both from Oklahoma case one was seventy seven year old man who had cycled between fever and chills for six days before finally calling for an ambulance on March twentieth. He had high blood pressure and some other health issues but no cough on the trip to the hospital. He was gasping for air and his heart stopped by the time they arrived at the emergency room. It was too late. The gentleman had not seen a doctor for his fever. He had not been tested for Kobe. Nineteen so it wasn't clear what had caused the heart attack taking his life. The Medical Examiner's team in Oklahoma City decided that it was important to find out they swabbed the man's nasal passages and also his lungs both swabs tested positive for the SARS. Kobe virus and chest xrays showed what they described as complete white out in. What would normally be dark empty lung? Cavities doing an autopsy on a Kobe. Positive body is risky but they had the special protective equipment and high containment room. They needed to do it and maybe they could learn something that would help save some of the hundreds of thousands of people around the world who will fight cove in nineteen for their lives in the months to come so they laid his body on the dissecting table and they opened them up. The team contacted a well-known lung pathologist at the Cleveland Clinic to help them interpret what they saw especially as they examined tissue samples from bears organs under the microscope. My name is Sanjay Mukhopadhyay. I'm director of pathology at the Cleveland Clinic. Autopsies give you another deeper look into tissue. That is actually several layers of resolution higher than what you can get from a history a physical examination routine laptops even the highest resolution CD. Scans none of them. Even approach the resolution that you can get from an autopsy. The medical examiner had noticed that. This man's lungs were two to three times heavier than usual. A Common Consequence of AIDS pathologist actually referred to that syndrome by a different name. One that describes the end result of the disease lung cells. They call it diffuse. Lv alert damage in that gentleman. We found diffuse Alveoli damage under the microscope. When you take a breath and it goes down your windpipe. The windpipe actually branches and to do and when goes into the left lung and one goes into the right and then those branches of the windpipe branch like the branches of a tree. You know they get smarter than sponsored smaller as you go. Further and further away and the end point of the branch is what we call an Lvn Louis or colloquially you can call it an air sac and what that is just a very tiny balloon. You need a microscope to see it. And they're just cows and thousands of those little balloons in the lung. That's what makes up the lamp so each time. You inhale you inflate thousands of microscopic Vealy as the ED enters into that little balloon with oxygen in it. The point of the balloon is to take that oxygen into the bloodstream. The wall of the balloon has little blood vessels in it so in the normal language. Dicap- breath the oxygen goes from the middle of the balloon into the one of the balloon. And that's where the arteries are and the oxygen goes into your blood cells. Red Blood Cells. We call them. And then that Dixit back to the heart and the heart center the oxygen to the rest of the body for this exchange of oxygen and carbon dioxide to work properly. The thin lining of the air SAC has to be very close to the walls of the blood vessels. Now what happens in in actually in any severe viral infection is that the virus starts causing damage reading a digest. I which is the back of the throat and then all the way down so all the way down the windpipe down the branches to the smallest branches and then into the air sex and when it gets into the AIR SACS. Call that a viral pneumonia. What's happening is actually. The virus is damaging the walls of the those little webs of capillaries that surround the walls of the air. Sacs start to leak proteins fluids white blood cells and debris from destroyed lung seep into the air sacs the debris clogs the balloons. But maybe even more important it also thickens the walls of the air sacs. Literally it's making a barrier for the oxygen to go from the middle of the relates to the bloodstream and so this is the reason that oxygen levels are so low in these patients who are very sick from ovid. The researchers concluded that case won the seventy seven year old man had died from Kobe. Nineteen even though he had never been diagnosed with it. Mukhopadhyay said he was struck by similar. The pattern of organ damage was to what he's used to seeing from autopsies on people who died from other viral infections. It's actually very similar to what happens in influenza and at just to mention a few other examples. Sars you know the SARS from two thousand to two thousand three identical merced Middle Eastern disparaties syndrome identical findings. I did autopsies and deported them on H. One and one when that happened the swine flu identical findings and I give you one more example. You know the when the vaping thing happened just recently and many people were getting sick from the most sick patients but actually developing diffuse. Lbj damage case too was different. This man had to the hospital a day earlier on March nineteenth. He was only forty two but had myo tonic. Muscular dystrophy a hereditary disease that causes muscles to weaken or atrophy. Sometimes so much that food can back up from the stomach. Go down the wrong tube into the lungs where causes bacterial pneumonia? He felt sharp abdominal pains and went to the hospital where a cat scan showed fluid in his lungs just hours later his heart gave out any passed away although he was labelled as community acquired pneumonia and died and was found to be covert positive. The microscopic examination. This patient does not support the idea that he died of Gobert so there was no damage instead. They found food particles and bacterial infection in the airway clear signs of aspirational pneumonia. So case to died with cove in nineteen but he did not die of covert nineteen. Which makes it very interesting because it brings up the issue of. How often is this happening? How often are people who are PAS? Different went on a nasal swab dying of things other than Kobe. I put that question to Desert Marshall whom we heard from earlier. I'm the director of autopsy after De Services at the University of Washington Medical Center since early. March Marshall has performed more than a dozen autopsies of people who died after testing positive for corona virus infection. She says the results of those autopsies have been submitted to a Medical Journal for publication but are still undergoing peer review. Marshall says that the risk of infection that this fires poses has changed how they perform all autopsies regardless of whether the person was suspected to have covert nineteen. Or not so. We've actually started to swab all of our students and get those results before will perform an autopsy in our facility. That isn't the negative pressure sweet so his Marshall also found that like case to in Oklahoma some patients are dying of something else but turning out to have corona virus infection as well we have not. We have not had any unexpected positive results yet. It's still a limited number but of the probably fifteen that we've done. We have not had a positive comeback where we weren't expecting it. And what about the finding from case one in Oklahoma here in Washington are most of the Kobe? Nineteen patients dying from more or less standard AIDS or the autopsies revealing evidence of the virus infecting and damaging other organs as well hearing concerns of the clinicians and folks on the front lines there's the virus infecting the heart or is it just kind of secondary affects related to the critical illness. Is there excess? Clotting related to this disease. Different things like that. It looks like it's helping us to see that Cova did is actually causing typical acute respiratory distress syndrome. Initially there were thoughts that it was behaving a bit differently. But I think as we get more numbers of people and there's less of the individual variability the vast majority of these cases are showing the typical pathologic features of acute respiratory distress and Which we call a diffuse Alveoli damage. Pathology it does look like it. Is that phenomenon and there's not something Speaking out pathologically. That's different in a way that will inform them that you know. They should probably continue to use. The evidence based tried and true therapies for areas in particular marshal says. They aren't seeing an unusual number of small blockages and blood vessels. That would require treatment beyond the usual blood thinners such as Heparin nor has her group or other. She has heard from around. The country found the corona virus causing serious heart infections in the autopsies. They
City of Los Angeles prosecuting businesses that violate safer-at-home orders
"In Los Angeles for a non essential businesses that have ignored reported warnings to close are facing misdemeanor charges we're seeing large compliance throughout the city but and this is where there is intransigence and businesses refused to comply if we must we will file prosecutions and follow up city attorney Mike fewer says his office has filed cases against fourteen businesses including a car wash a beauty supply store and some smoke and vape shops he warns more filings are coming LA is being sued for forcing gun shops to close fewer points out the city has scored another legal victory in that case the mayor's order is clear all non essential businesses must close gun shops and all other non essential businesses construction sites can still operate but must implement social distancing and other measures to prevent the spread of the corona virus the mayor says the city has received several reports of non compliance and thousands of construction sites have been inspected sixty one have received correction
Coronavirus: Boris Johnson moved to intensive care
"This morning Boris Johnson yesterday moved to hospital's intensive care unit that's the British prime minister for people that don't know yeah fifty five years old so right and yet you look at him he doesn't he doesn't look like the healthiest person we we wish him all the best of course our thoughts and prayers are with the prime minister but I don't I don't know was he a smoker at one point I'm not sure if he was armed only say they didn't I don't I don't want to hear in the vaping guide at yeah but we wish him all the best he's getting the best treatment you can get a great Britain and I think right now what you know having been he was now he was self quarantine he was diagnosed ten days before Sunday's we're going now what twelve days ago uhhuh that he was diagnosed and then on Sunday they decided to put him in the hospital now and I see you I saw one headline saying you know he's in the battle of his life and again we wish him well our thoughts and prayers are with the prime
Arizona - New Bills Presented To Combat Vaping
"Several bills meant to curb vaping among Arizona teens are stalled in the state legislature one of those bills is by senator heather Carter it would classify vaping products as tobacco the bill did not make it out of the Senate Carter blames it on lobbying efforts by the tobacco industry it's very disappointing when tobacco is able to have a chokehold on the Arizona legislature another bill also stalled is by senator Martin Quezada it would bar vaping companies from advertising near schools and parks technically these bills are dead at this point unless we are able to amend them under some other bill but the chances of that are pretty slim Griselda sit Tino
New York City confirms two new cases of coronavirus contracted through community spread
"Health officials here in the city are trying to and how to people with code nineteen came down with the illness your W. CBS reporter rich lamb the two most recently reported New York City cases a woman in her eighties and a man in his forties are both critically ill each having underlying conditions the man situation complicated by smoking and vaping the woman's by age related issues as I understand the two newest patients are evidence of community spread since neither had traveled to a coronavirus hot spot and neither was connected to a previously known case community spread dynamics suggests it will be more a sieve and that worries us obviously in terms of how easy it might be for someone to come in contact in the city is asking anyone recently returning from Japan Italy Iran South Korea or China self quarantine for fourteen days and at risk city employees may be disciplined and quarantine if they refused to be
Coronavirus cases in NY double
"Wins new coronavirus cases reported in New York and New Jersey today as the number of infections grows now nationally keeping us up to date is ten ten wins reporter al Jones Mallory there are now four cases of coronavirus here in the city including two new ones both of those patients in critical condition mayor de Blasio says both had underlying medical conditions smoking and vaping for a man in his forties and the age of a woman in her eighties the mayor says disease detectives have not been able to find a connection between the two World Health Organization continues to say this disease is less transmissible than the flu but again we are watching carefully a community spread dynamics suggests it will be more
"vaping" Discussed on Policy Matters
"Suggesting a getting a petition up to make our school. Mascot jewell an analysis of a profiles of people who were following jewels twitter account during that in one month in April two thousand eighteen if this was later published in the Journal of American Medical Association Pediatrics Journal said that about forty five percent of those jewel fans where aged thirteen to seventeen eighty one percent or thirteen to twenty even though the account stated you must be twenty one years or older to follow it somehow. These kids had figured out how to get around that by clicking. I'm over twenty one jewels. Advertising in the early years didn't mention that pods even contain nicotine and in a twenty eighteen. Study Sixty three percent of the users fifteen to twenty four so they had never been. They had not been aware of that and some of them said. I would have stayed away from nicotine if I'd known it was there. This question is for both of you because both of you are experts in this is sort of. This is a public policy podcast. We're getting down to the nitty gritty. Here we understand that. There's still a lot of stuff we don't know. But what are your thoughts on the best public policy approach? We should take vaping what we've seen happen recently. Is that at the federal level the age for Tobacco User Products. You know end. Vaping tobacco products was raised to twenty one. And there's also some bands on flavors but there's also a lot of loopholes in those bands so a lot of people still have access to those flavors. We support raising the age to all for all products to twenty one. I think we're a little more skeptical of bands and what the bans on certain flavors can do. And there's a few reasons for that one is that you know there's already market for this and so by prohibiting something that there's already this large demand for is going to drive consumers to the black market and that in fact we talked at the beginning of the lung. Injury outbreak in that is largely the result of illicitly purchased. Thc devices so driving up the black market for you know nicotine base vaping likely to have adverse health impacts on consumers so that's one issue another issue is with the enforcement of bands and how bands will be enforced You know it might make sense to go. After businesses that are selling to minors and to crack down on their sales but to the extent that any kind of ban involves punishment for people. Using who again. We're talking about primarily young people that punishment is far more likely to cars harm than the vape itself and we've actually seen a a huge rise in school disciplinary action in Texas against students for vaping With find concerning one of the strongest political responses to any kind of problem especially drove. Brahms's prohibit prohibited punish. And those. Just don't work out very well. I was talking to someone today. Who said he was working with a school that was for kids who had had been had drug offenses and including vaping offenses. And so putting those putting kids in the same holds for marijuana for taking kids who've had a misdemeanor marijuana offense putting them in school where everybody of his has committed misdemeanours the kinds of offenses. It's not gonNA help them just not going to help them do better. It's not going to help them. Give up it's going to make them resentful. It's GonNa end because Katie mentioned because the people who are putting those schools or more likely also to be still down position in society. It's going to reduce their knowing that these laws are not enforced evenly. It's going to reduce their respect for the law and respect also the ties to society and therefore it makes them less good citizens that a number of things happen as a result of of punishing people for something. It's really not much of a threat to the public order and I would just. I would add that another problem with bands. And Prohibition of these things is that it does then effect smokers do wanna use them a cigarette alternatives and allows been made over. How much young people like flavors but adults also like the flavors and so to take those away from from smokers. You know might Cause them to not try vaping as an alternative to smoking So that's another concern there and again when we talk about smoking rates at the population level smoking rates have been steadily declining now for several decades But we see that some groups still smoke at much higher rates than others. People that are low income have a low educational. Attainment blacks native Americans people living in rural areas veterans people with mental illness People who use other substances all of these groups smoke at much higher rates and so It's also a question kind of not just overall public health improvement but also public health equity to make sure that we do have alternatives to cigarettes are less harmful Neither Bill I want to encourage anyone to vape. And ideally any policies towards vapes. What they would do is they would make vaping an attractive alternative to anyone who smokes an unattractive alternate unattractive practice for everybody else the challenge Zehr's and and how to balance those two goals so one of the policies that we could try towards vaping his to end to all tobacco products is to tax them. According to their harm so more harmful products like cigarettes needs to be taxed higher than vaping products. And that doesn't mean no taxes on vaping but it means to make those less costly option to make them more attractive alternative than cigarettes. We like to say that we're not either. We're not advocates are apologised for vaping except as a harm reduction to. Smoking is unquestionably dangerous. We look the aggressive attitude by tobacco companies to peddle their drug as as reprehensible and quite skeptical of the claims of jewel and some of the other counterparts that they're offering a safer way to enjoy nicotine and never ever want anybody to use their project but we also accept that nicotine and vaping nicotine is less harmful than smoking. It and some smokers reduce our sees their habits so for the president are watching the with interest the natural experiments that are going on in cities and states and across the country. And in the meantime we urge nonsmokers adolescence. To pay attention to what Jewish says. Don't vape thank you Katie. Thank you bill for joining us today. As we discussed a subject that turned out to be a bit more complicated than perhaps many in the audience expected. But this is in many ways. What this podcast is about? It's about talking about policy issues in all their nuance and complexity. I'd like to thank you both very much. 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Youth at Risk: A Convergence of Concerning Trends
"Hello and welcome to. Let's talk a series of podcasts produced by the Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation on the issues. That matter to US issues that we no matter to you to Substance Use Prevention Research Addiction Treatment Recovery Management Education and advocacy. I'm your host William Moyers and today we're joined by my colleague Dr Joseph Dr Lee. Welcome good talking to you again. I couldn't well. It's great to have you on. I always learn something from your every time that we get to sit down to talk. I'm amazed at your depth and breadth of experience as our medical director on youth and family issues across our continuum our mission in this country. There's so many things that we could talk about your so well versed in all of those but I thought I would talk. Start by talking about something serious. Which is the mental health of our youth. Today what are you see is happening given the proliferation of social media? And all the things that you know so well. Where is the mental health of our youth today? Well I see concerning trends across our country. Actually you know in the world of addiction and treating young people with substance use disorders. You see kind of psychology Things are magnified stresses magnified Stresses and conflicts in relationships are magnified loneliness and anger magnified Ucla of young people who have use disorders who become what I call very fatalistic that is significant other. Breaks up with them. If they're met with some adversity they go downhill very fast started become suicidal and we know this is the standard course in the world of Addiction. But the scary thing is in recent years. I'm seeing the same trend in the same kind of psychology in our general social dialogue and I'm seeing it through social media and I'm seeing signs that are concerning with increased mental health issues and suicides. Not just for young people for for older adults. It's almost like there's a part of society I don't WanNa say is become addicted but the psychology of Addiction. The loneliness the anger the magnification. The polarization that comes with addiction is now upon us all. We just don't see it. Do we blame it on social media? I don't think it's fair to just have a smoking gun and pointed at one direction. I think they're all facets of society. What you'll find that is that social media is a lot like substances. A lot of people go on facebook. Instagram snapchat used fine without any difficulties. But there's a certain subset of high risk people that when they get sucked in really hurts them affects their mental health and so social media has way of magnifying things. When you see a pretty picture of a kitten everyone goes on like your picture. It's magnified when you see humane act and someone's helping someone else everyone's tearing up it's magnified but when you see polarize discussions when someone makes a a comment that's politically incorrect. Or maybe discriminatory and young people make mistakes by the way that also gets plastered and it's indelible and there's a magnification in that that I think is very dangerous for high risk people and then of course what exacerbates are some of the substances that you are using today substances that didn't exist in my using days of old. Can you talk to us about what you're seeing at our youth facility in suburban? Minneapolis in terms of the dependencies. That you young people come in with a lot of the convergence between substance use and technology and social media so they're celebrating some of their use finding peers. Who are like minded through social media and instagram posting pictures. It's always pictures before the social event when everyone's happy and they look like they're having a good time using substances. They never posted pictures. After the event when people have vomited and there have been fights. But it's always the before but but there is a convergence in Know vaping cocaine culture other kinds of drug use promoting it through social media giving a false image to other people but you also see the flip side of it so a young person may have made a mistake. Maybe they got too intoxicated on something embarrassed themselves at a social event well that also gets plastered on videos and messages and that is very for those individuals because then they get bullied. They get ostracized. The looking at everybody's feeds and everybody seems to be going on vacation. Everybody else has a new significant other. Everyone else got a new car for their sixteenth birthday and the more friends they have the worst this becomes and by comparison their lives seem lonely and inadequate and so for young people who struggle with mental health and substance related issues sometimes social media and technology can be a bit of a curse. How does it work at our youth facility? You see day in and day out. Because they can't have their phones when the young people come in for treatment do they have withdrawal. They don't have withdrawal. In fact you'd be surprised. With how many people actually liked to unplug a bit even young people? That's right in fact. We'll have conversations. Where like you know you have some friends that are maybe not the healthiest for you? They may be good people. But they're not gonNA encourage you to be in recovery or live a healthy lifestyle and they know that and they actually dread going to the Rolodex of their contact list. They wonder if they should change their cell phone numbers. They actually like the time that they have away from that. Because I think that's a lot of temptation for them and it's a draw. It's almost like Some people describe it as like being on a leash. They feel like they can't get away when they wanna get away so I actually hear more dialogue that they don't know how to navigate being plugged into technology and being in recovery and we have to teach them new skills to do that. What has been the impact that the legalization of marijuana is having across this country with our youth. The important thing to remember about legalization is that the skies not gonNA fall okay. Society is not going to fall apart because the legalization of anyone substance what it does create though is it does create a regressive economy and what that means is that most people drink alcohol. Fine but ten percent of Americans consume half the alcohol in the entire country. So there's a Paredo distribution in eighty twenty rule. Which means if you legalize a substance if you legalized lottery tickets if you legalize gambling at a casino the curve you see for consumption is not a bell curve. It's not that the average Americans going to gamble a couple of times and then only the people on the tip we'll have problems which actually see as a distribution where most Americans do fine and so they have no issue illegals Asian but there's ten to twenty percent of a population that might really struggle and they consume too much. They go to the casino too. Many times they buy too many cigarettes they lie too many vape pens. They drink too much and so we have this debate about are we okay. With simply a utilitarian principle were half of America won't really care and some people are going to make money and maybe we will generate taxes or do we also have a dialogue where we look at the minority population. The people that might be affected who will also try to sing the same tune as everybody else. I can smoke just as much. I can drink just as much. I'm just like everybody else. But they're not and do we have a special dialogue and conversation inclusive of everyone or do we just run amok with capitalism and. I think that's the concern that I see is not necessarily do we legalize or not. But how is it done? And how do we cater for the marginalized? Because if you're a company selling a pen. If you're a company selling marijuana or alcohol you have to make the margin of the people who consume too much you have to and they know that they know their own data and are we okay with that as a democracy so is it just simply majority rules or do we have special conversations to say we also have to protect those people who are vulnerable and that include young people on social media on vaping on the legalization of marijuana. What's your to parents. And how they talk about these issues with their children or grandchildren. Well I think people know their families the best and I ask them to kind of look in their. Mir's look at the the families look what their risk factors are and if there's somebody who There's a lot of addiction in the family. They should message differently. It's definitely not a one size fits all there will be plenty of people in America who smoke marijuana or drink alcohol or use different substances and be okay. They will not develop a use disorder but their children will also try to replicate that but their genes are different. Their environment is different. Maybe they face different adversity. Maybe they have different mental health issues and can we have dialogue in our country that is nuanced and mature enough to be inclusive of those people and right now. We don't have that dialogue. We have a polarization in shutting down of anything that goes against majority rule and there's capitalism that's behind it which I think is a bit sinister and And victimizes certain people so our organization is not against any drug. People are surprised by that. You know when I let them know. We're not anti-marijuana. We're not anti alcohol. We are advocates for the minority. We speak for the minority population a significant minority of people who will not react the same as other people when they use substances because they need to have a voice because other people wander stand
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"Number on Capitol Hill this afternoon the house just passing a ban on flavored E. cigarettes the two hundred thirteen of one ninety five vote the house approved a bill barring the sale of flavored vapes as well as traditional menthol cigarettes house speaker Nancy Pelosi says the ban will help curb the spread of nicotine use among the nation's use we are protecting the health of the millions of young people who are at risk from big tobacco's deadly products it's unlikely the Senate will take up the bill and president trump is certain to be telex Rachel Sutherland opponents fear of flavor ban will lead to increased tobacco use by younger
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"Seven the house of representatives approving a bill today aimed at curbing tobacco use among teenagers including vaping the bill would ban flavored tobacco into vape juice including menthol Massachusetts representative Richard Neal supporting the measure we propose to establish a federal excise tax on nicotine and vaping products to make sure that they're treated the same as the nicotine in combustible cigarettes critics say the bill goes too far doesn't take into account adults who use vaping products to quit smoking the bill would still have to pass the Senate and be signed by president trump before
"vaping" Discussed on What Next | Daily News and Analysis
"I'm still. I'm still thinking about how you said. There are thousands of applications for like cigarettes from two thousand nine still bumping around FDA. Yeah I mean the the scary reality is that most tobacco products on the market have had no federal oversight whatsoever so ever and then earlier this year people began showing up in hospitals unable to breathe right. This sort have happened very quickly. The forty year old California man died from what health officials. They're called severe pulmonary injury. It's the seven th death together together with hundreds of illnesses. Recently linked to vaping the cause still a mystery but officials think the illness stems from chemical exposure. It went from being sort of anecdotal reporting of people in the hospital too widespread coast to coast lung injury several deaths the people in ICU. People who are under the age of thirty who can't breathe on their own and it took everyone by surprise I know people at CDC who spent you know weeks on rotation on and off. I mean this was treated like like the abol outbreak. Right this is. This is a major ager public health crisis. We don't know what's happening while the reports at least five hundred and thirty confirmed and probable cases. Important detail here most of them involve taping with THC the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana or both THC and nicotine eventually the CDC finds out a A good number of these people are using THC There are a number of people who report only using nicotine so we don't actually know. Oh what products to pin everything on and it's possible probably even likely that there's actually more than one on cause more than one type of injury happening sort of simultaneously and if you live in a state where marijuana is legal. THC Is something you can just buy vape shop and pop hop into your vape pen in some places you can in a lot of places you still can't. We do know that that none of the products were part of any the medical marijuana programs but a lot of these injuries are happening in states where were recreational use of marijuana is not legal and it seems that a lot of these people people are buying black market products. They're buying them in shady places or over the Internet and that sort of the intersection with with the lack. A federal regulation entirely if you have a white marketplace nicotine vaping products that is unregulated. It certainly certainly gives a Lotta cover to gray or black market place for illicit products. You could make it look like you have a store that is selling rolling products that are perfectly legal. But you're actually selling products. That aren't I mean. I have no doubt that if we were if you turn the clock back you prevented the emergence of jewel and other similar products and we had a controlled marketplace for e cigarettes and you had an agency like the FDA that new every product. Eric was on the market and was supposed to be there. It would be a lot easier to identify the illicit products if you walk into a store and you know the name of every product. That's legal then you you also can see all the products that are illegal because the feds don't regulate marijuana. The FDA has now left to regulate what it can vaping products in September. The president said he planned to ban flavored vapes which are popular with kids but he seemed to walk that back in recent days. Meanwhile some states like Michigan York. They've acted on their own limiting the sale of vaping products. I told Desmond Johnson that with Out Stiffer regulations at the FDA kind of just feels like we're lurching from crisis to crisis that sort of the trajectory of of tobacco casual and it takes huge events to cause significant change. You know it took whistle blowers bringing out documents documents in the nineteen nineties to find out that the CEO of the cigarette companies were lying to Congress and the result of that was litigation from the states the federal federal government we had the FDA trying to regulate tobacco products. It does unfortunately take these big events. I hope that we don't squander this one Desmond Johnson. Thank you so much for joining me thank you Desmond. Jensen is an attorney at the Public Health Law Center at the Mitchell. Hamlin School of law in Saint Paul Minnesota. That's it's the show. What next is produced by Mary? Wilson Jason De Leon Daniel Hewitt and Mara silvers. You can find me on twitter at Mary's desk. Let me know what you are interested. Did in what you want to hear from us. All right thanks for listening. I'm Mary Harris. I will talk to you tomorrow..
"vaping" Discussed on What Next | Daily News and Analysis
"The last week the fight over what exactly to do about vaping came to the white eight house and then it was broadcast on C. Span. We're having a year on this meeting. It was held in a cabinet room. It was packed. Senator Mitt. Romney was there the president of the campaign for tobacco-free kids was sitting directly across from the president jammed in between the CEO of Juul Cool and the head of a vaping industry association. These people they do not agree. The advocates say vaping being is just another way to get kids hooked on nicotine their cigarettes without the smoke. The industry representatives for them vaping is the way to give adults who want to quit the experience of smoking with less risk it got awkward as a lesser problem. Smoking we can cigarettes e cigarettes you stop smoking and it's better you don't think so so. No Nicotine Addiction. It's not uh-huh is bad for the children's brains affects when the campaign for tobacco-free kids guy tries to jump in here say vaping is dangerous. Because it's attracting a new generation of smokers. An industry rap interrupts him says kids who vape. They're not exactly angels at Risk Risk Behaviors and that is why yes. We haven't been listening. Then that guy gets shouted down eventually Mitt Romney ways then when he says even Mormons are vaping. Now is a high schooler. They want to use his products..
"vaping" Discussed on Freakonomics
"Would like it is known about nicotine is this. It is so desirable so addictive that millions upon millions of people are willing to inhale cigarette smoke including the lead arsenic ammonia and benzene in order to get the nicotine not that they necessarily want roughly seventy percent of US adult smokers. Smokers say. They want to quit smoking. So you know. One of the goals then is to actually try to reduce the addiction addiction to these highly toxic products and really shift smokers. Over to less harmful products less harmful nicotine products addicts have been around for years. Gum Patches nasal sprays. How effective are they? Not Very one analysis found that just fourteen percent of smokers occurs are able to quit when they use one method of nicotine replacement. Therapy the number increases to seventeen percent when using say a nicotine patch and gum at the same in time. So what are the problems with The smoking cessation propped logical tools. Is that they are unappealing thank you know. They don't have some the sensory effects that people like when they're smoking their cigarettes about a vaccine against nicotine nicotine addiction that something huts economy worked on for years in the early proof of concept study. The results were promising but ultimately came a a large clinical trial and so the results from this phase three clinical trial. They were not positive so that was unfortunate. But that's it's not to say that the nicotine vaccine is a bad idea. I think it just needs to be developed. Further so for years that's where things stood millions and millions of smokers. Most of whom didn't WANNA smoke. Couldn't stop nicotine replacement therapies. That weren't very effective a vaccine. That wasn't ready. And then in two thousand seven a new product came to market. They've since come to be called ends electronic nicotine delivery three systems more commonly known as e cigarettes when e cigarettes I came on the market my first assumption was that this is just another tobacco. Industry ploy way that they can say is safer but really isn't and just gets more people to use tobacco. It's Michael Siegel a physician and professor the Boston University School of of Public Health. He has been researching tobacco issues for more than thirty years. After studying the issue it became clear to me that this was very different and the the tobacco companies actually weren't involved at all. They didn't get into the picture until two thousand nine eleven and in fact this was a much safer product and was helping many people to quit smoking. The earliest e cigarettes didn't have good battery life or deliver their nicotine efficiently but the technology evolved with hundreds of brands putting out a variety of vaping devices. Some of which could be used for vaping other more entertaining substances. Here's how the National Institute on Drug Abuse Summarizes the genre electronic cigarettes are battery operated devices that people used to inhale an aerosol which typically contains nicotine they're not always flavorings flavorings and other chemicals that can resemble traditional tobacco cigarettes cigars or pipes or even everyday items like pens or usb memory sticks e cigarettes. Let's prove incredibly popular for a number of reasons. There's physical stimuli. There's holding the cigarette. There's feeling the throat hit seeing smoke. Come off their social stimuli. You know smoking smoking with other people. In social settings a new word entered the global vocabulary vaping or ingesting the vaporized content of these devices. I think more than anything. What vaping offers to smokers is an identity? You don't have an identity as a nicotine patch user you know nicotine patch users. Don't get together together in groups and have forums and conventions for the weekend but vapors do it wasn't long before vaping. Champion was crowned jewel labs founded founded in two thousand fifteen and headquartered in San Francisco the jewel e cigarette was sleek and minimalist and it came in flavors including mango cucumber and mint and by two thousand seventeen jewel was the US leader in market share selling one of every three e cigarettes by the end of two thousand eighteen. The company it was valued at thirty eight billion dollars and it sold off a thirty five percent stake to ultra the tobacco giant previously. Known as Philip Morris why why did jewel becomes so much more popular than its rivals. Michael Siegel has one answer. Jewel has a very different nicotine. Formulation that makes it much much more addictive. It's a nicotine saul. It's absorbed much. Were rapidly into the bloodstream. And because of that it simulates the pattern that you get with a real cigarette grete and that is what makes juuling so addictive and how does juuling or vaping any nicotine based e cigarette compared to combustible cigarettes when it comes to toxicity Dorothy Hudson Comey again. Delivering nicotine via the electric cigarette is far less toxic than then the cigarette. But you still have constituents delivered to foreign constituents delivered to the lung in the testing. That's been done on. E Cigarette Aerosol in many cases they find no detectable levels of any unwanted chemicals in other cases. There are some chemicals but only a few and that doesn't mean that the products are safe. Those chemicals could cause problems if used over the long term but the toxicological profile of these products products indicates that they're much much safer than cigarettes. It's not gonNA be Harmless Product but it certainly beats seven thousand chemicals pat you get from cigarettes. The strongest evidence that demonstrates how these products are safer our clinical studies that have been done where smokers have switched to e cigarettes rats. And there's been a dramatic improvement in their respiratory function both subjectively through their reported symptoms and objectively through US parameter testing casting which has shown improvement in lung function among these now ex smokers. And what about the long term effects vaping versus smoking cigarettes. What's the data there? There's no long term data because the products have not been on the market long enough to be able to do mortality studies to show that using e cigarettes as opposed to cigarettes is going to lower mortality. The fact that we don't have long term studies doesn't mean that it's not going to save lives We know it's going to save lives based on the short term clinical data that we.
"vaping" Discussed on American Hysteria
"If askin you may down the PAS about vaping. Here's what they'd probably say. No one agrees. Raise if it's safe or not so you might as well smoke anyway. Jemaine needs is a Cochran Review. The facts have been checked at least dry they find. There's a lot that the experts agree on. And they might give you different advice by now. A cigarette burns with a horrible heat making all sorts of stuff to soak through like arsenic. Nick Cyanide and carcinogens which is why. We'll probably you but with these cigarettes. It might look like you're smoking talking vapor and smoke guard the same. They burst just what you get when you warm.
"vaping" Discussed on American Hysteria
"We are taking being away this opportunity to become healthier and then if we look at deaths you know if we look at deaths in that way. It's like yeah there's been how many deaths again Maranda thirty nine. So there's been thirty nine deaths almost all of which have been linked to THC and it's vitamin E.. Specifically Ignominy Acetate Vitamin E. ACETATE ACETATE. That is used as a thickening agent and so basically you can't really know how many lives are being actually saved or at least prolonged by vaping and by people switching over and even if it's like only ten percent or something of smokers that's a lot more than the thirty nine deaths they have apparently been caused by an have not been cost actually in any way shape or form by the jewel companies or the other e cigarette companies. So it's all through and through. What can we call it? Hysteria American hysteria Ding Ding Ding. So what else do you think. Miranda does that summarize our thoughts pretty well does I had one more I had one more note please. So in laying the groundwork for this episode I found that a lot of the leading research on the subject is coming out of the UK which is interesting doing the Cochran review especially is consistently and systematically identifying appraising and synthesizing empirical evidence that meets pre specified eligibility Ludi criteria to answer the question of safety in vaping including studies involving eleven thousand four hundred participants that have found e cigarettes to be ninety. Five percents sent safer than tobacco cigarettes there as my co host has noted in fact. Two of Cochran's lead tobacco addiction. Researchers Nikola Linson in an Jamie Hartman voice even wrote a song about it did they. I was hoping I might perform it for you. I would i. This is a complete surprise for me I am. I'm almost in tears. All right.
"vaping" Discussed on American Hysteria
"Is a rare and dangerous. Inflammatory condition caused by a chemical called diaster till the buttery flavor makes it a prime candidate for use in an microwave popcorn but when workers in a factory started are developing this often fatal illness it was removed from products made by major popcorn manufacturers. So it's a flavoring sometimes used in vapes apes like toffee. I don't know if that's a vape flavor but it seems like you know and that can cause this really awful so that's the only time that that they like. Just e cigarettes have caused this kind of condition. Yes if they have this particular chemical do you think that many of them do or not. No I think they removed it. I think that that's the kind of the idea. Yeah okay okay And Yeah it's called popcorn lung not because it makes your lungs look like popcorn as it does sound it does show what I thought. That's the whole time I thought and that's not a coincidence. The only news definitely wants you to be like your lungs are the worst first thing I've ever heard it's horrible and well. That's that makes me feel a little bit better. If you little bit better all right all those poor factory workers though yeah. That's true for our popcorn offer are stupid. I don't like microwave popcorn. Come at me. Cancel me I don't like microwave popcorn. Did you know that vapes have been around since nineteen twenty seven. I did not. I don't understand how that's possible. Well it's not really by the first patent. This is from one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and that was that was the first electric vaporizer okay. in nineteen sixty three Herbert Gilbert it to pioneered the smokeless non tobacco cigarette but he couldn't find any manufacturers interested in making the product. Okay then in two thousand and three. We came to the e cigarette as we know it today via Chinese smoker and Pharmacist Han leak. I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. Sorry Bihan and and that's kind of how that got rolling but in two thousand seven enjoy was one of the first major brands Dan Simon in the US without like 'n sync it is like incentives an capital n Joy. It is it is. There's no astro as strick asterisk. I risk asked risk but they filed for bankruptcy in two thousand sixteen because they couldn't find enough customers they should have been called back street. vape deep vape alright Miranda and. That's exactly what we're talking about Chelsea. Oh thanks itself just a conduit conduit okay what you stats Chelsea. I'm GONNA do stats. I would love to hear some stats. Stupid stupid move back there. beep booze and that's my statman Song I don't want to hear your scattered about BBB. Okay okay that little pastime so so before this there was just this general fear about teens vaping because that's always the fear right. It's always this idea that but that vape companies or smoking companies or alcohol too you know with like mad dog twenty twenty or something with all the bright colors and flavors are purposefully creating those those flavors to market them toward children. I don't know if that's true. It seems a little silly to me. Because they're not a to focus focus on that shore is to focus on some sort of potential future market. But I think adults just like flavors to well what do you think I think if we're going to talk about fruit flavored vapes. Why aren't we talking about fruit flavored alcohol? I think people do but it's been a while. Are we trying into ban. Are we actively trying to ban like Pina coladas. No but they did ban four Loko which was a tragedy. I know I know how you feel Alford. Who wasn't you know whose fault it was the univers- no it was the central Washington University? Because what did they do. They made a giant VAT a four Loko mixed with vodka and then they all got real real sick. Is that four logos they have done. It was banned nationally anyway. You're that's fine. I don't think that had to do with the flavoring. Necessarily though all right that was a complete aside fully to rant about four logo Oko any every couple of weeks but anyway I just don't think we're talking specifically about flavors alcohol and that being marketed to children. It's it was the whole the whole Joe. Camel to buckle and for those who don't know that was the the banning of you know when Marlboro MHM came up camel. Ca that makes more sense Marlboro. Also had hot cool cowboy helped me yeah. Camel cigarettes came out with this. You you know cartoon mascot and everybody got real up in arms about a cartoon advertising cigarettes and now as a whole thing is like a camel. Emma was a leather jacket and sunglasses and he was cool. He was cool. I still think so. I still think he's cool. That would be really great Halloween costume. I'm not sure how you pull it off and then why is it bad right. Why if it's mark into marketed toward kids than basically people think that it will a screw up with their brand screw with their brains The nicotine will which there is some evidence to say that it does mess with your brain a little bit and then also that it is the gateway to smoking. which is a very very unfounded sentiment? Because unless you ban they will do that in in conjunction with this epidemic rise in vaping. You've probably read a lot about that right. Miranda and there's a lot of the articles say that there's an epidemic because it's true that each year more and more people are using e cigarettes and up to I think one figure says one in five high schoolers alerts vape but what that really means is. They asked they asked a sample. How many of you vape have aped one time in the past month and Dan so it vaping one time or trying it? Some of it's even have you ever in your life. That's where some of these statistics are coming from and it seems like closer to maybe two percent of teenagers vape on a regular basis. Like it's just not it's so easy to screw with statistics and make them seem really scary but nonetheless. More and more teens are vaping but at the same time time the smoking rate in teenagers has been steadily declining. If we're looking at the logic of this is going to lead to an epidemic of cigarettes when all these kids decide that the vapes not hard enough and they need they need the real stuff Then we would also see a rise in teen smoking in that feels like that causalities very reasonable to assume and actually just like many things just like teen sex even these these stats have been declining of how many teenagers teenagers smoke. And perhaps that has to do with there being an alternative It's not to say that vapes are okay. That's it. They're not okay. I mean they're just I mean in there okay. But they're not. We can't just be like go. Babe kids like no we ape unless I mean I don't know it's free country but it it's not like we're sitting here being vaping totally fine. It's not a good idea not a good thing to do. You can get addicted to nicotine but but at the same time time. A lot of research has shown that vaping is ninety. Five percents safer than smoking cigarettes and so if we're going going to choose one or the other why wouldn't we choose because people we are not gonNA stop people from vaping. Guess what that does what does it do. Miranda when we make things illegal backstreet Eric. St Faith's xactly backstreet. Vapes is what we get back. Street vapes are what got us into this us in the first place. What that's when you drive when you say vaping legal then people are going to go back underground and then they're going going to get popcorn lung again because it's not like these the vaping guys on the streets or like well we'd better leave out the vitamin E. and make it safe for everyone? They're not maybe some of them are God bless. I also want to note that. That's what's happening. It's not the vape companies. It's not any anyone one who's regulated really. Except potentially that thing you talked about. It's long been eradicated about the the the buttery Sassa tell. Yeah that Diana I ask Pam so and this is true for adults to this idea. That smoking's going down as vaping rises and we have to think about like the percent of people who smoke in America has been steadily declining and it continues to decline and so what vapes were originally conceived to be worthies things that we're supposed to aid and people quitting smoking right and it's not like they've done amazing at bat but nothing does amazing that 'cause it's really hard to quit smoking but the smoking rate in the US fell from twenty four percent to fourteen percent in the last few years. It's going down steadily and I wonder how much of that has to do with vaping. I would assume a good amount. There was research recently published. Shout of the New England Journal of Medicine that shows that there's solid evidence that e cigarettes are pretty much the best thing you can do to try to quit smoking and they. They showed an eighteen percent success rate and a ten percent for other products like nicotine patches and gum. So we're talking. You know eight percent more success rate with these cigarettes which again are ninety five percent safer because they don't have any of the tar and any of the other cancer causing agents nicotine's not great but at worst isn't addictive. I mean it's not great. You don't be addicted to something but it's not like it's not it's not causing. COPD as far as we know. Maybe there's something we we don't know yet and I think that's a really important thing to note here is that nobody really knows how safe or dangerous vaping is because it hasn't been widespread for very long SO THAT'S A. That's an important footnote an important caveat. We know we don't know you. You know we're just here to tell you what we do now and calm down a little bit what we do when we ban things like this is we create it a black market again. Which is the cyclical issue? That's going to bring more people down in to the backstreet vague market. And they're going to then can get sick like these other people have or the other alternative is that we take these away. And then all of these people are who are benefiting from knots from transitioning out of smoking doing e cigarettes. We're just throwing those people under the bus in our panic because.
"vaping" Discussed on American Hysteria
"Talk show the takes a more casual. Look at a handful of our nation's most famous freak outs. I'm your Co Host Chelsea Wherever Smith I'm your other Co Host Miranda Ziegler and this is American hysteria. Just another panic Monday this morning. Health officials sending an urgent warning about the dangers of vaping being an Illinois resident dying a respiratory illness. The state's Department of Public Health saying that person had recently raped when there's inflammation in the lung. SACS troby they don't oxygen when we get oxygen. We can't live. We are coming to you today from A. Ah a couch that we found on the street a street couch. Well it's very cute. It's floral. It's very clean very comfortable. We found it in a Ritzy neighborhood neighborhood so we think whatever. Because that's how things anyway I'm here with my co host Miranda. I'm here with my co host Chelsea. Wherever Smith Wonderful Poland? Today we are covering they a That's right the terror of our month. The most dangerous thing you can possibly do do. Is it worse than cigarettes. Some people think so are your lungs turning popcorn Maranda. We'll have to find out we'll have to find out that is a horrifying image. Sh I hate every time someone says popcorn lung. I hate it so today because I am very sick doc very not feeling very good. I've been shrugging on well. Mike von Dayquil. Today's episode of American hysteria is brought to you. By why dayquil are you tired during the day. Because they're sick promo code hysteria. Promo Code Fox it anyway Moran is going to be kind of taken the lead on this episode. But I'll be the mainly the peanut Gallery and I'm also going to be your stat man. That man carruthers which is a reference. I didn't get earlier. Okay who is it again. He's the man who he's the actor who played Mister o'halloran in the shining. And who is that character in the shine. And he's the one who talks to Danny about shining. ooh Charming African American workers. That is so popular in Stephen King's writings. Well I am GonNa let Miranda take away an and let's hear a little bit about the history of our vaping panics. Not where we're starting. That's not where we're starting. Let's hand it over to Miranda A- as the summer months faded over Delaware County Pennsylvania this year seventeen year old Eddie Sullivan woke up his mother. Complaining of extreme nausea chest pain and a shortness of breath when he was admitted to a local children's hospital his symptoms worsened and doctors quickly diagnosed him with something akin to severe pneumonia even considering a medically induced coma. Eddie had spent the better part of the previous year experimenting with Nicotine and THC vaporisers devices consisting being a battery powered heating element and a cartridge filled with propylene. Glycol or vegetable glycerin as well as flavoring and drug compounds that are then atomised and dispersed. I if you've been on the Internet recently. It's very unlikely that you haven't come across a headline espousing the horrors of vaping two thousand fifty one cases of a mysterious l. nece have been reported and linked to the use of products an illness that involves vomiting shortness of breath and in thirty nine of these stories. Even the articles are everywhere and they're terrifying today. Where peeling back the layers of click bait and taking a look at? What's really going on here all right? Well it all sounds like a hysteria to me. You got all the ingredients. No I would no. I am the unequivocal expert of mass. Panic all right so so recently K.. The CDC examined twenty nine in samples from patients suffering from these symptoms and every one of them tested positive for an additive called the vitamin E. Acetate used in supplements and skin creams but potentially potentially dangerous when heated and inhaled so why are major companies using it. The thing is. They're not no. They're not vitamin E. ACETATE is is a cheap way for black market producers to thicken the liquid in their cartridges and cut down on the amount of nicotine or most frequently. THC needed you know. WHO'S NOT OUGHTA DR Chelsea wherever well that's debatable? But I was GONNA say a Guy Hubei vape pen from off the the street not a doctor not a doctor not a reliable source for any anything. You're doing really probably not. I mean unless you need some quick. We'd go for for them. That's fine we don't all live in Washington State Fair. Nearly every case of this vape illness can be traced back doc to these St vapes and it says so in every article however covertly so what. What is this panic really about what are you? What are your thoughts on this? Why are we reading these headlines and then breezing past the fact that it's has nothing to do with mass market? Well here's what I would say. Are People reading the article is anyone. Is anyone out there reading the article because the article says things like Schick hundred people's lungs have turned into popcorn and we might as well go to a movie theater lungs but that's uh-huh nobody's getting to the part where it's like. Hey this is probably likely because people were buying vape pens off of the street which has and it's all marijuana right pretty much pretty much almost all usually people vaping you have a stat on that in the statman is barely conscious. But no I think like it's a moral panic in a lot of ways right. It's a distraction. Perhaps perhaps a distraction. From oh I don't know everything because we're living in a horrifying reality and of course who POPs in who bops end. have his. Say our commander in chief himself himself and you know this is what he had to say. A lot of people think is wonderful. It's great it's wonderful. That's one thing I think we can say. Definitely definitely commissioner. It's not a wonderful thing. It's got big problems so clearly. POPs ops over. There knows he's going to take care of us. Big Pop of America take care of us. He's going to get in on the Pie and this is what happens with every every moral panic right. It's like there's pressure from the public which usually comes from the media because the media is like trying to sell papers so they're like Oh my God and then after. That comes the public outcry in the public like well. I trust the news because is what else am I gonNA Trust. I don't know what reality is. Someone told me what it is and then everybody freaks out and then politicians see it's their chance to have a platform in which nobody can really disagree with them and that's what moral panics. Were so grateful because they always serve the left and the right because it here in in Washington State Jay Inslee. WHO's a WHO's your senator? Anyway Jay Inslee has basically banned all flavored vapes period. Because they're like kids are GonNa love those cherry flavored pop tart vapes and it's it's happening everywhere right. It's happening in Washington and then even know this is a very liberal city even though Seattle is very liberal city and then you'll see it happening obviously obviously with our very far right president and it sort of the Safeway for everybody to get points without being divisive. So it's like a good thing for the middle ground to do you have something like stranger danger. No one was going to say. Kids aren't being kidnapped because everybody can get on that boat. And then they do and so I think so much of this is is just like a bureaucratic like Dick Measuring contest or something about who can who could be the toughest on this new teenage problem. Because there's always always gonNA be a teenage problem governor. Jay Inslee is our governor. Jay Inslee is the governor governor. He's governor now. How much dayquil did you know? Have you seen all of these law. Firms uh-huh advertising on facebook for class action lawsuits against jewel. It's quite here's what I have to say. Prove it prove it. I can really go for right now. Miranda don't awesome delicious buttery popcorn lung in a box for me and put some butter on it. Everybody's lungs I'm GONNA eat them right at the movies. What are you seeing? I'm not seeing a superhero movies. Don't even invite me. Do you want to hear about about popcorn lung. What's there to here? I thought it just was your lungs turning into popcorn. You is that what you thought. Well isn't that what America thinks. You're the smoke vapor in your lungs. Things turned into popcorn while I mean actual hardcore but I just assumed that it would be like. Yeah you're just horrible. That's what I thought when I heard about it too well. Well here's the truth. Popcorn lung is not in fact the absolutely horrific disfigurement of a respiratory organs. As the pet name of you've bronchitis obliteration suggests but it.
"vaping" Discussed on Science Vs
"Burn narco-state guitars so when it comes to vaping where we up to now the FDA and CDC have an ongoing investigation into what's causing this that recommended for now that if you can stop vaping until the situation is sorted as for the people who are already sick we don't know what's going to happen to them but when we at Science Vasteras looked at more than a dozen case reports from people whose lungs injured from vaping over the last five years the vast majority did recover what about any he had from at the beginning of the show while his mom says that months later he's still not fully recovered Jerry talk to our senior producer Caitlyn sorry about it so how's he feeling he does have an inhaler if he needs it he he has his moments where he gets winded walking up steps it's football season sealant play football he is not so there is definitely some appointment from him it's a scary world to know that these products are being made and people's basements and sold on the black market because we don't know what's in them I I mean I find all of it to be very very scary aints fastest vaping happy. Halloween Hi Caitlyn sorry said you produced asides versus Hello Wendy so common host and executive producer Assan enough how many citations in this week's episode what's there is one hundred forty one div April no no no it's not my wheelhouse but I have friends to have switched from CDs to vaping and I feel like there was a there was a question they're like are we doing the right thing yes should we stop and if you're interested in the business side of vaping you should check out the journals episode on this the journal will into the episode now shy nights next week tackling five g technology we've had a lot of requests for this one so should you be worried about the rollout of five Jane Force making one huge experiment and because we are exposing almost the entire human population of the earth.
"vaping" Discussed on Science Vs
"They switched to plain vaping sir no flavors no wait scientists probed the chemicals in these people who've switched vaping they look at their pay and blood and breath and they found some pretty doc changes and what we've seen some of those studies is that if someone switches from smoke into vaping they have improvements that are similar to what we'd see if perhaps quit smoking altogether an Italian study of around two hundred smokers found that the ones who switched to vaping breathing out far fewer harmful chemicals alight out and the National Academies of Science port from last year wrote that there is quite conclusive evidence and quite that subbing vapes for cigarettes reduce your exposure to dangerous chemical roles in CDs but these studies were all done before the outbreak in the US so should what's happening now change how we feel about vapes we put this to Jamie with this new lung disease that we're seeing in America it's it's killing some people hospitalising is does that change the equation fee so absolutely these deaths in the states from vaping are incredibly concerning warrant urgent investigation but I think in this area is only in comparison to smoke in when we're talking about safety well I'm saying is that smoking is incredibly and uniquely deadly for something that's legal I mean it's just unbelievable that it's legal all right and when you're comparing vaping regulated products to smoking all the evidence we have so far overwhelmingly suggests that vaping safer cigarettes kill more than a thousand people in the US every day and so far vapes of just killed over thirty but I think we never thought Easter Gretz were risk free we always thought that they were considerably safer than smoking and nothing I've seen so far has convinced otherwise and as freaked out as the CDC currently is about vaping they've also said that if you're vaping instead of smoking don't go back to see east okay but what if you're currently a smoker and you Wanna quit there's other things to try patches medication should you go for the vapes ways to quit smoking that have been proven to be safe and increase chances of success give those a try if you tried them they haven't worked or for some reason you don't want to try them really think about switching to an ISA in studies it's clear that vapes helped some people to quit smoking but the reason that Jamie says try everything else first sleep we just have more studies on stuff like patches the bottom line despite this outbreak making vapes look pretty scary Chamie says.
"vaping" Discussed on Today in Focus
"Let's senior reporter at the Observer you've been writing lots about vaping tell me when the a cigarette as we know it now was invented most people would say it was two thousand and three Chinese inventor Han Lick his patented idea was then replicated by many other companies and he's basically credited as the father of the cigarette how quickly did they become mainstream people might suggest the UK they're still relatively niche compared with smoking owning the last five years they started to become almost ubiquitous and you see lots of people now vaping it's rated as a form of subculture and it's promoted on social media and it seems that there's real momentum there I want to see how if you're gonNA vape with the I pay freedom for the taking be cigarettes any liquids current UK estimated figures from Action Smoking and health three point six million people in the UK use a under ash point out of those only six percent wants makers that is quite a significant riser five years go back to twenty twelve we're looking at about seven hundred thousand people vaping back then is a huge increase how do they work quite simply an e cigarette is a replaceable inhaler cartridge it contained some interesting chemicals chiefly vegetable glycerin and quite often another interesting chemical called poly ethylene glycol these are basically the liquid that hold the flavoring and they hold nicotine and then what happens is that liquid is heated up and it turns into a vapor and then you down into your mouth when you vaping open the smoke will roll out most important thing I have looked up and I know that it's not like good for you guys out but it's kind of the lesser of two evils I suppose you used to you the Guardian podcast science weekly you've done an episode on vaping what did you find out I remember it was off the back of a report from public housing land it was ninety five percents safer than smoking vaping was that was the episode where I got one of the biggest funding these studies and whether or not ninety five percent is the right number I don't think that's the takeaway message to take away message is that is as far as we know and as far as the evidence tells us at this point safer for cigarettes versus cigarettes what's the difference that Lick Health England figure of ninety five percent is not without controversy east cigarettes aren't risk free but they are at least ninety five percents S. harmful than cigarettes some critics say it underplays the danger that can be associated with vaping and overstates the role of vaping in helping people to give up smoking e cigarettes are the UK's most popular quitting aid as there is no burning involved there is no smoke they do not contain any tobacco just this some of the World Health Organization one that vapes were undoubtedly harmful and not a guarantee tool to quit smoking and that's critical because of a fair that they pink could be a new way to Hook nonsmoking teenagers onto nicotine Ooh Jamie is it fat assigned by paying isn't seen as just to stop smoking I like Apache ah gun but that is seen as something quite cool in itself in the United States it is definitely the case that vaping is seen as a cool thing it almost fourteen percent of US high schoolers of Vaping Fry Sam the vape Lord Blake you really are Lord Vanden that has been and this is the scripture the US health authorities epidemic of teen vaping he cigarettes jewels they're often marketed as safe alternatives to smoking but they're cool designs fund flavors and the fact that they're easy to hide means it's not only smokers who want them it's kids and a lot of people are posting stuff on Instagram Bieber's it's happy there are tricks you can do with your today I'll be teaching you how to French inhale through your teeth into multiple strands so looks like a bay mass from Batman so let's get started I think that I'm going to be other kinds of communities growing up around this I guess you could liken it to sort of skateboard and BMX it's kind of slightly count cultural it's sort mm people don't take up aping and in terms of types of e cigarettes the most famous I guess is the jewel when was that invented and just tell me about it if you can talk globally than Joel is definitely the big brand of everyone recognizes it's an American company it was formed five or six years ago it's product is is a verb in America there are people who talk about going to the jewel room room in the toilets and high school and you go in there and you just jewell young in the UK very different very tight restrictions and the way it can be promoted it certainly doesn't seem to have the same cachet at the moment at least simply because it didn't launch in the UK until two thousand eighteen the U. K. Mark is more fragmented perhaps the big Lebron's a blue and veep jewel is definitely the one that everyone is watching for what it does around the world Cool when debate Max now I think like an idiot I think I looked like in the day when I smoked critics vaping would probably say that number on people are either replacing cigarettes with it rather than giving up nicotine or even using vapes alongside cigarettes all perhaps just worrying of all young people might start vaping in its own right I mean I'm not a young person so I can't say I was I mean I was a young person because teenagers just WanNa do stuff or when I was a teenager I just wanted to do stuff was dangerous see don't do it for the sake of doing it I mean mine was it definitely helped in the long term yes it is a choice about house and not wanting to aches and I can tell that because I get very very anxious if I ever lose it doesn't seem to work like other tools work I mean if you chosen to Chew Nicotine Gum I doubt you'd be sitting in here reaching for the gum in your pocket cessation and I think actually what they are as smoking replacement and that until we know more about the kind of dangers that these things expose us to I think it will continue to be that because in the eyes of many people myself included what I'm doing is relatively safe.
"vaping" Discussed on Today in Focus
"You get that is it legal too vague in an office place a Mac Sandison the end so that's why you maybe don't have one for another hour whilst with that you're breathing in fresh water without fresh air it's even worse it's sugary tasty minty so I used Mike Mental so I've now got a mental vape it's like lollipop it's like a lot of young people comment on the fact that smells I after rights and it kind of tastes like dances from our listenership of people writing in saying you know the science here is Foti and there's all this kind of dodgy stuff going on where vape companies like blowing smoke rings with cigarettes ten years twenty years ago the coming out and go into your noses one extreme it's split sorta like until the ipod did you take my jaw your Devon can I hear Jill please Bro to June.
"vaping" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Joe markets itself as is an alternative to traditional cigarettes and the e cigarette giant says its mission is to improve the lives of the world's one billion smokers by eliminating cigarettes and the goal. Oh appears to be paying off in recent weeks. Cigarette sales volume decline more than seven percent that is more than twice the historic rate of decline blues. I think people thought I'M GONNA vape instead of smoke cigarettes because it seemed like the healthy alternative do all these recent illnesses and even deaths suggested that might not be true. I think we still don't know enough to say anything definitively but we do know that regular cigarettes are the deadliest products that have ever have been introduced to the consumer market so that's a pretty tough thing to beat. Obviously one of the dangers here is that teens have really glommed onto vaping the jewel in particular Taylor who is of age and and using to teach me out Anderson Victory so here talk show. Show me some of your best tricks Haley go so there's this national survey called the National Institutes of Health Survey and they track how American youth are using substances and the number of high school seniors who said they vape deep nicotine in the past thirty days had doubled between twenty seventeen and twenty teams so it went from eleven percent to nearly twenty one percent. This survey is like more than forty years old and it was the largest increase they'd ever seen any substance in the history of the survey. What that means is it. A quarter of twelfth graders are oh now using the USA grads at least at some point in the last month and we have no idea what the long term health effects that will be a quarter of all twelfth graders is in the United States are vaping at some point every month he asked so. It's what they track is. Thirty Day you sit in the past thirty days and just for comparison so bottle all to use. It's like fewer than five percent of adults are currently using e cigarettes and we don't have any more of an idea of what this might be doing to not even fully formed adults yet. We thought until this outbreak that the diseases that would be related. T- cigarettes would take a long time to turn up in the same way. Smoking doesn't kill you you two days after you smoke. A cigarette kills you after many years of use and the accumulation of that toll on the body so what that means is that there might be these potential. Joel cardiovascular effects like heart disease and high blood pressure heart attacks things like that then we've also seen these rare cases of seizures related needed to nicotine containing e cigarettes and also of Easy Grad explosions so when these vape devices exploded in people's mouths and broken their Johanna and whatnot so so we're still definitely learning about what the longer term consequences. If some of these short short term health effects are going to be an I mean the last time we spoke about this. You also mentioned that there's this ability to take these like super hyper mega doses of nicotine when you have vaping device whereas when when you're smoking a cigarette your a little more limited to a single cigarette at a time obviously what do we know about the health impacts of just taking a lot of nicotine so I think it's important to say that the that was about jewel right so jewel does deliver. This is crazy dose of nicotine. I think it's as much as so one jewel pod delivers livers as much nicotine as up to two packs of cigarettes so they're definitely in the addiction business but that's not all e cigarettes. Budget does control like this market market. It's the biggest player absolutely yeah they have the greatest share of the grab market for sure and these are similar to the health effects of nicotine in cigarettes so bloodpressure speeding the hurried causing the arteries to narrow nicotine can increase the adrenaline that circulates in our bodies audie so that activates this fight or flight response and in young people we know the nicotine can rewire the brain so there are questions about what that means for Addiction Shen and susceptibility to addiction later if you've been juuling every day in your teens are e cigarettes regulated the same way as regular cigarettes. Let's I know this is sort of a new wild west of smoking or vaping but is the government staying on top of it so yeah in only in two thousand and nine did that. Da Get regulatory authority over the tobacco industry and you cigarettes were left out of it until that finally change in twenty me sixteen and so the feds started to regulate e cigarettes then it meant that they could do things like banning sales to minors and making sure oh you know that the ingredients listed on packages and stuff like that but they've also delayed some big compliance deadlines as part of the regulation so so for example companies that have entered the market after February two thousand seven have more time to get FDA approval to sell their products so they push back at deadline for these companies. That yet came on the market. After two thousand and seven in the context of this outbreak is worth noting that FDA doesn't regulate THC's since it's illegal legal under federal law so there are certainly some gaps still in the regulation of the products that seemed to be causing this outbreak is the vaping industry responding to this at all are they saying a are bad. We're going to make sure these things that are all safe or anything like that. So the line from the vaping industry seems to be that federal officials are unnecessarily. We frightening the population. Oh so the Vapor Technology Association which is this pig is facing industry trade group so they released a statement recently urging quote public officials to thoroughly investigate the circumstances which might have led to each reported hospitalization before making statements to the public about whether certain products are implicated in these incidences and how much would scaring people off these cigarettes cost the vaping industry so we know the jewel is now valued valued at thirty eight billion dollars gap so that was a massive valuation when it when it was purchased by the parent company of Philip Morris One of the world's largest tobacco companies which now owns more than a third of jewel so yeah. The company is hugely valuable. Big Tobacco clearly sees a future with them and yet this outbreak. Were the turn those trends around the we're talking about. There would be a lot of money lost and so anyone thinking oh I got this cool vape device. That's not really a part of this big old cigarette tobacco machine that dates back to slavery in the United States. That isn't the case anymore that that's not the case and it hasn't been for a while. Many of these cigarette companies are controlled by tobacco. Companies is a huge moment for vaping where where whatever happens in the next few months or year might decide the future of this potentially very very harmful trend you know when when when like you said when he cigarettes were introduced to the market they were really framed disease stop smoking devices and then there was this like youth boom and lots of marketing around that Adin social media use around around vaping and now we're seeing this outbreak that seems to be directly linked to the USA Grad Industry and I think that might indeed be turning point in the conversation..
"vaping" Discussed on Today, Explained
"But even so after we published a bunch of listeners told us the episode made them. WanNa go out and buy jewel. One of our coworkers definitely did just that. Today's episode is about raping but I can almost guarantee you. It won't make you want to because now people are dying. The Centers for Disease Control is warning warning people to stop using e cigarettes the reason the number of possible cases of vaping related lung illnesses has more than doubled in a month right now. There are more than four hundred fifty possible cases in thirty three states health officials say at least five deaths are likely linked vaping eighteen year old. Piper Johnson was on her way to college which you wound up in Colorado intensive care unit had I waited thirty six hours longer. I probably would have died or been put on a ventilator that little pod could do so much damage on on my body what's going on is it. There's an outbreak of a mysterious vaping related respiratory illness that sweeping across the US Julia Blues Reports on Health for vox today she spoke to us from Vienna. That's Vienna Austria. Not Vienna Virginia Shinya so starting around April doctors started to see young otherwise healthy people show up in their offices and hospitals with difficulty breathing and they do cat cat scans and x-rays and look at their lungs and notice that they had these abnormalities. Something was causing inflammation in the lungs when they'd start to try to search for with that was a bacteria virus. They didn't find anything which is really unusual to see. Young healthy people show up in hospital who don't have have any sign of infection but have difficulty breathing if felt like I was genuinely having a heart attack. That's how eighteen-year-old Chance Amerada describes the feeling feeling when his medical emergency began about three weeks ago I would say like my chest felt like it was collapsing and tightening up I couldn't breathe and they said your lungs collapse ops go to surgery and right now and only a few months later when more and more of these cases started to show up did they realize what was linking them was that all of the patients vapes every single one of them reported using e cigarettes in the last ninety days so by the end of August there were about two hundred possible bookcases in twenty two states and on Friday the CDC announced at the numbers risen to four hundred fifty possible cases in more than thirty states Paulie Hagan raiders eighteen year old son. Adam has been in the hospital since Saturday when he was rushed to the Er with chills shortness of breath and vomiting. He's now relying relying on a supplemental breathing masks steroids and antibiotics as he battles lung infection. What was the first case in which Schmidt died from vaping here so in August we learned of a woman in Illinois who was hospitalized with this unexplained illness and she died and and she was only in her thirties and she's now thought to be the first person in the US who's died because of vaping and on Friday we learned about the fifth staff which happened in l. A. And that person was over the age of fifty five so we've got a woman in her thirties but also an older guy who who've died from from Beijing is everyone who vapes getting sick right now or is this like limited to a certain type of person no not at all and yet. It's important to remember. There are many many many people across the country right now. We're talking about four hundred and fifty cases so this is definitely a subset of the population using e cigarettes. What what we know now is that most of the people who've been diagnosed are actually in their late teens and twenties so on Friday. The New England Journal of Medicine Medical Journal came out this series reports on this outbreak in one of them was a study in Wisconsin and Illinois and they found that the median age of the patients in those states nineteen so that means that half of the people who are getting sick with this illness are younger than nineteen so it's definitely a younger population and another otherwise healthy see one. That seems to be affected. I would hit my vape easily forty times in an hour. I was a pretty heavy labor. What are the symptoms symptoms that people are coming down with when they go to the hospital when they get sick when they die so patients have a few things in common so they're they're suffering from respiratory. Tori symptoms again the trouble breathing shortness of breath cough and even some gi symptoms nausea vomiting and diarrhea sometimes receive blood in the airway which is can be alarming some of them even need oxygen support through ventilators or you need to be intimated seventeen year old Tristan's. Oh field was taken to Cook Children's Hospital in Fort Worth Texas with blockage in his lungs. I woke up and just throwing up everywhere heart was just pounding on my chest going one hundred miles an hour or and sometimes the breathing troubles even follow the gastrointestinal symptoms so it said difficulty breathing that finally brings people into the hospital all these people people who are getting sick getting better. I mean obviously five or so have died but has everyone else doing one of the doctors I spoke to WHO's been treating patients shins with said that when she's followed up with people who are recovered from the from breathing difficulties in particular lung still appeared to be damaged so there seems to maybe some long lasting impact on the lungs now Alexander who left the hospital in July seven has diminished lung capacity and is experiencing short term remember issues. The doctors told me my lungs are diminished by twenty five percent. I don't have the stamina that I used to I don't have the strength that I used to. They're hopeful L. recover that the long term health effects people what we don't know them yet. Is there any particular type of Vape vape device. I mean we talked a lot about the jewel back in our episode about vaping in May of last year is a a type of nicotine or or THC that people aren't hailing. Do we know that there's one thing to stay away from here so unfortunately it's still not clear that's why the CDC and FDA or telling people bull just don't use e cigarettes until we know what's going on right now. There's DA is analyzing hundreds of samples from the products that people who have gotten sick have been using and they think that there's a chemical in some of them that might be with causing the illness but they're still considering everything from nicotine to THC H C to pesticides additives all the chemicals that come in flavors and one thing that does link many of the cases that people well had been using THC in their e cigarette devices how do you how do you get that you know the THC. I got it from like a drug dealer or whatever forbid he assure you was okay sure you don't know whether it was okay or not right but then there are also the people who got sick could only been using nicotine cigarettes and then some people use bolts so marijuana and nicotine containing liquids in their in their devices so it's possible that will learn that this sickness is caused by an exposure to a couple of chemicals or that. The chemicals are are working together in a way that's making people sick or it's also possible some people who are saying they only used nicotine are lying because right now. I think the data that we have are self reported and maybe an again. It's a lot of young people maybe they don't want to admit that they were using marijuana so it's really not clear yet and it's going to take some time to find out but it is worth noting that on Friday the State Health Department of New York announced said an investigation of the cases there founded vitamin. E acetate was a chemical that turned up in the products that people who have been sick and in New York had been using but then the feds on Friday and a press briefing walk back from that and said that you know while New York has had that finding. It's still not clear that vitamin E. is really the culprit and they're considering many many different potential causes. What is this vitamin E acetate exactly it sounds mostly healthy. It is yeah so it's something that's found a nutritional supplements and it's completely safe in those but would it does have these oily greasy properties that when you're inhaling it into your lungs it can cause some of the symptoms and inflammation that the people who are sick have been experiencing and what other chemicals or ingredients are in these vape cocktails. Do we know so so so many so flavorings and additives toxins that are in the mix so nicotine heavy metals like Mercury and aluminum for Mel Mel died has been found in e cigarettes and then yeah and then the flavorings like strawberry lemonade and butter rum and all the floor flavor. Whatever all the all the different flavors that are available now. They're also made of many different types of chemical combinations so it's important to remember their hundreds of different ingredients in the vape chooses. People are using as delicious as that sounds. I mean all of these ingredients have been in these vape cocktails for years now. Why are people getting sick. All of a sudden what's interesting is that it's not entirely clear that this is a new phenomenon so it's possible this has been going on for some time but because because e cigarette use his sword recently that were actually detecting these links now. It's also possible that there's something that's been introduced on the market market or black market products that people are accessing that are having been introduced more recently. They're making people sick. Why is there a black market for these devices devices when you see like vape stores on like every corner and they're being sold in convenience stores. It's not like there's like a a black market for like Miller lite why are people buying vape ape devices on the streets will remember in this case a lot of the patients had reported using THC which is the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. I WANNA as we know. Marijuana is illegal in every state so it's possible that people are just purchasing these devices of whoever's dealing to them or it's is also possible that they have a you know black market source. That's cheaper than what's on the market so I think there's lots of reasons why people might be turning to block market sources. Do we know if the CDC's warnings have worked. If people are going to ease up off the vaping or are we likely to see more hospitalizations allegations more injuries more deaths as a result of people using these devices in the coming weeks and months I have noticed onto on social media and talking to people that there seems to be more awareness about the potential dangers of these devices as a result of this outbreak so maybe it is scaring people off of them. The people who are vaping underage knock it off. Don't do that to your parents as for people who are of legal smoking age. If you want to be just know the risks. It almost killed me whether anyone actually measuring yeah whether you cigarette uses is going down as a result. I don't know.
"vaping" Discussed on The Signal
"Say go like legalized vaping australia area. There are different groups that come to more from the medical side then they're just the tobacco lobbyists themselves certainly british american tobacco and philip morris have lobbyists in camera and as part of reporting this story. I came across something else that philip morris is doing this sending letters to all kinds of groups. It's obscene letters. They've sent to federal politicians. They've let they've sent turk groups health bodies public health organizations but according to people in the business a little more troublingly they've also been targeting indigenous groups so i've seen a letter sent to an indigenous lead corporation in victoria and these lettuce talk about what they call the the increase safety of e cigarettes as compared to normal cigarettes and it also talks about some of this specific products okay.
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"To enormous lengths in terms of how we market the product, how we distribute the product, how age gate when we sell to consumers, both in retail and online to try and ensure as far as is humanly possible that all product doesn't get into the hands of those who are either not current smokers, vapors or who underage in the states. You have had advertising campaigns have being appealing to a younger section of the market. We've actively sought not replicate some of the early mistakes that we made in the US. We did have one regretful campaign which we hold our hands up and say, wasn't appropriate. That was in two thousand fifteen. And you've got to remember it's very effective captured all the tea market. It wasn't particularly effective actually, if you look numbers and unfortunately, I can't release those to you today because they're commercially sensitive, but actually the tremendous growth. This businesses have had over the last eighteen months. Really when it's taken off. And just in terms of the health implications vaping, is that something that you will concerned about? Because there is an FDA investigation taking place at the moment into looking at what the long term effects are? Yes, we absolutely welcome. Long-term research on vaping. What I would say is we've got a ton of data almost cigarettes duty bodies, like public health, England, the Royal College of physicians, cancer research, UK all say that vaping is materially better for you than smoking. Now, we would always say, if you can quit cold Turkey, you should that is absolutely the best outcome for you in terms of your future health. But if you can't, we are trying to offer more options to get people off cigarettes. You'll jiggling as we were speaking. Tell me about your smoking history. So I only joined Joel twelve weeks ago. We've been expanding fast and the news someone to run the UK and I've been at twenty years smoker. How many a day twenty typically. So this relatively heavy smoker Yan for the first ten years of my smoking life when I was in my twenty s. I was pretty fair about it, but as good into my thirties, I really wanted to quit and my wife wanted me to quit and I just I had control of many other aspects of my life. And this is the one area where I just couldn't kick the habit and I tried everything. It was just a frustrating experience, and I always went back to cigarettes. And when I approached by Joel, I'd never heard of Jill and I spent a.
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"Creating a new generation of nicotine addicts and in America. Many of them young and the fallen in love with one particular brand ju. I was in gym class a year and a half back and this girl on friends with she had a jewel and she was asking where she should put her jewel 'cause we are in the middle of this push up test. And I kind of asked, why don't you just put in your bag as very short class? And she's like, you know, I need my ju. It's a needed at all times. That's Jack Waxman. He's nineteen years old. He's just started at university and he set up a campaign group called students against. Nicotine. He's behind the audio clip of the fourteen year old Julia. You heard at the top of the program part of his campaign to make his generation wise up to aping addiction. So this problem was getting worse and worse in my high school, I was seeing a lot of my best friends become quickly addicted to nicotine, especially jewel at very young ages. What is it about jewel that makes it so attractive in particular two teenagers. So the Jews very attractive because of the flavors, the jewel in particular cells, a wide variety of fruity flavors, such as mango and fruit medley and those flavors are drawing kids in. Vaping brands do that as well. So yes. So a lot of other vaping companies sell flavors to, obviously, you look at the fact that the jewel has much more nicotine and then other vapes and other e cigarettes. So if you look at the potency and you compare that you can see why the jeweler so addictive. Obviously, it's the techie twenty-first-century design of the jewel. Because it's really easy to hide, isn't it? Sure, yes. It's very easy to hide kids in my video and the three million kids that are addicted in America. Now have stories about how they juuling class, how they're juuling doing sports practice, how they're doing under the table at dinner with their family says. Cool, basically, isn't it? It's just a cool kind of thing to do. It's definitely cool. Yes. So right now, in order to purchase the jewel in America, you have to be eighteen years old and a lot of high school seniors are eighteen years old. So what you see is high school seniors buying the jewel and then redistributing it to freshmen, sophomore juniors in high school and then even down to middle school. But what you're also seeing is an explosion of online sales that are highly unregulated, and that's leading to kids that are even thirteen or fourteen years old, signing up with a credit card or a debit card that's either in the name of their parents or themselves, and they're just getting shipped right to the house and it's very, very easy. Who do you. Blame for this popularity of juuling amongst teenagers. Did you think it is the company? Would you think it is just the culture among teenagers, they just latched onto this thing? It became a fad and it just took off from that. I don't think we can blame anyone in particular. But what I can say is that there's clearly a tug of war going on between regulators and easy cigarette companies. It's very necessary to have that balance, but it's important to recognize that you know businesses, great, small businesses, great. But when companies are making money by dictating my generation nicotine, I don't think that's so great. Jack Waxman. So just how pervasive is juuling among American teenagers. It's something rope in Cova has been keeping track of. She's head of the truth initiative which describes itself as America's largest nonprofit public Health Organization.