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I Know How This Story Ends  Episode 052

Words of Jen

08:29 min | 1 year ago

I Know How This Story Ends Episode 052

"You are listening to words of Jenn where I read to you one piece of my writing in each and every episode this this Gen and you are listening to words of Jen. This is episode number fifty two in this episode. I'm I'm going to read you a piece of writing that I wrote just a couple of days ago and it was inspired by some changes to writing sites that were eerily similar for this one is called. I know how this story ends years ago. I started in writing on a website. That a few friends of mine had joined the site which no longer exists. Paid people for the blogs. They posted there to me a person who makes their income from freelance writing. It sounded like an exciting thing to try while I did not expect that site to replace my existing gigs. It sounded like it had the potential to enable me to earn a bit more money per month. I'd never seen a website that was not only Lee seeking writers but also promising the potential of payment for their work so I started writing and waited to see what happened that that site had an interesting way of figuring out how much to pay writers et. I it paid writers based on how much interaction they received. If I remember number correctly each post had something that functioned similarly to a like on a social media platform other writers could leave a comment on the post. They especially enjoyed ed or the ones they wanted to complain about. It was never made clear. Exactly how much alike or a comment was worth worse in terms of real money. All that the writers were told was that the money they would be paid would come from ad revenue. Each each writer had to accrue from memory. Twenty five dollars before they could cash out for a brief time. I was easily making twenty five dollars a month from a website that I considered a side Gig but then things changed the website owners for lack of a better word realized that ad Ed revenue wasn't working out as they had hoped it would. Writers were now expected to make fifty dollars before they could cash out. The site stopped paying for likes on a post and restricted the ability to leave comments to people who had an account on that site. Outsiders could still read the posts but the site didn't pay its writers for those views shortly after this change. The writers on that site were very confused. They immediately Lee noticed a big drop in the amount of money they were earning. The site was by then notorious for ignoring questions from the writers. Once in a while a a high up would make a short post that came across as an attempt to pacify the disgruntled riders. So they would stay comments and questions. The left on those posts were ignored the site that started by actively seeking writers and proclaiming itself as a place for writers to earn money changed. It's tune the owners now writing posts in which they snarled at their writers insisting that their website was quote. Not Your job end quote. The wording on the website eventually changed and it was now posing as a social media site to me. It felt like the site no longer valued the writers it had been actively trying to attract not that long ago after that there was another controversial change. The owners figured out that Adra Vanu varied based on what country and AD. It was posted in for example. The ads shown to writers who lived in the United States were the most lucrative for the owners. The site owners. I decided to keep paying that group of writers the same while significantly. Cutting the income that writers from other countries earned. The general opinion of this change was that it was unfair. Things were looking dire many posts filled up that website for writers who were publicly disclosing the amount of money they earned each week all of them showed a downward trend. Others started writing about their missing payment. That should have been sent to them a week ago. More and more riders were struggling to get the site to pay them what they had legitimately earned through the websites rules. One day. That website was gone. There was no warning at all. This caused a number of problems. The writers were owed back pay for lack of a better description. Kevin had no means by which to contact the site owners. Writers could no longer connect with other writers from that site. The worst part was that many of the writers who eventually took to real social media sites to express their dismay lamented over the loss of their writing. My inspiration for writing. This warning is due to the change. That medium recently made regarding how it will calculate writer earnings. I find the change just to be troubling. I know how this story ends and I'm not looking forward to it. I got a medium subscription. Shortly after I started writing here at the time it was my understanding that every writer whose work I quote clapped for preceived some portion of the money I spent on my subscription. It felt really good to to be able to support other writers this way it felt like a means of support that. I had some control over the new writer. Earnings are based on how long a person spends reading a specific facific. Post medium will calculate earnings based on the reading time of media members. It will include reading time from non members but not until those nonmembers by a medium subscription. An short posting. Your newest medium post on social media isn't going to do you much good. Did in less you happen to have a bunch of avid followers who all have medium subscriptions. Oh and those people. Ideally need to be really slow readers. Readers who savour every word in order for medium to calculate your earnings from the amount of time they stare at your writing it feels like medium is going down not the exact same road as the website that no longer exists but a path. That isn't too far from it in makes me feel sad. Sad the best advice I can give writers on medium is to make sure you have a copy of everything you posted here. This advice would be valid whether or not medium had changed how it calculates earnings put your blogs on your personal website. Don't procrastinate just in case medium someday. Disappears appears from the Internet. I wrote this post after making absolutely sure that all the work I put on medium is on my personal website. My Plan for twenty twenty to remove all of my medium post that failed to earn any money. Clearly medium does not consider those posts to be a financial value. So I'm certain it won't care if I delete them from the website. The Post that made some money can stay for now as a person who makes a very small living thing as a freelance writer. I can no longer afford to write for free. And that brings us to the end of this episode code of words of Jenn with at article titled I know. How this story ends if he would like to hear me. Read more of my writing to you on my words of Dan podcast. He couldn't do that by finding more episodes on book of pretend dot net

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Ad Revenue Model Is Dead, Sponsors Are Unreliable, "Donations" Is Not A Business Model - Ep #75

Membership Sites & Online Courses, Create, Sell & Deliver Digital Content from SubscribeMe.fm

17:46 min | 2 years ago

Ad Revenue Model Is Dead, Sponsors Are Unreliable, "Donations" Is Not A Business Model - Ep #75

"Avenue model is dead sponsors are unreliable and donations is not a business model. So sly me. Hey, welcome to episode number seventy-five of subscribe meet on FM where talk about how to create cell and delivered digital content. Great membership sites and online courses, subscription based products. What press creating, audio, video reports, and podcasts, and tools, techniques, and tips that you can use to create a term profitable online business. I'm Ravi Jakoda. Paul and the co, founder and court of per of digital access, pass dot com. Fondly known as damp, arguably the best membership plug in for what press Adra Vanu model is dead sponsor, unreliable, and donations is not a business model. This topic is going to ruffle a lot of feathers for sure. And if some of those feathers belong to you, then I urge you to please listen to this episode actually multiple parts and hear me out completely. Consider my arguments and then decide for yourself. How much of this you agree with are not. So in. Of my arguments I present to you exit number one, my own website, which is old and outdated website, which is now practically defunct called baby names, India dot com. Now, as you probably know if you have been following me for a while at talked about this in different episodes in the past. So baby names, India dot com is the first major website I created back in nineteen ninety seven. That's when ninety seven ninety eight is when I started it, and that's the year my wife of in upper Sean to the beautiful. We not present who is co at court of labor of dab and the smartest woman. I know she was pregnant with our first child or daughter RIA when she was pregnant, I was looking for Indian baby names online and I couldn't find any good website. So I created my own, saw the peak of its powers, baby names. India dot com was getting thousands of visitors per day. Now don't go there. It's the haven't updated it in probably eight or ten years in at its highest. It was getting like three thousand to five thousand visitors per day. And my highest was six thousand three hundred twelve visitors in one day on twenty six, July two thousand seven to give you the exact date actually took a screen shot of this from Google analytics and l. posted on the website. Just do subscribe meter FM slash seventy five for the show notes and you'll see there. So around that same time I was earning about fifteen hundred dollars per month without sense ads on my website. And by this time I had tried a whole bunch of different monetization models l. talk all about all of those second. But absence was the first one which really started working for me and this fifteen hundred dollars was after you know me focusing on creating new content every day, working furiously on updates, adding stuff and tweaking stuff. All the time moving things around as a kept learning, an exponential with SEO as in such optimization. So it was like kind of the peak of my attention to this website as well. But still I never broke the fifteen hundred dollar Mark. And this was after being the number one website on Google for the keywords. Indian baby names probably for maybe five to seven years straight. So think about that. A huge community of my target audience Indians all over the world. So there was no dirt of visitors and Indians have lots of babies to, hey, we didn't get to number one in population in the world for no reason, right our at our at. I'm just kidding. Of course, most Indians incurred myself have one to two kids, but still there are many Indians around the world because a lot of people migrated away from India in search of better opportunities. And again, that includes me as well, which is why I and my family we, we moved to the US in two thousand. So there are no issues with traffic. Nine. One thousand nine percent while off my traffic was from Indians which just my target audience, but still my absence earnings were fluctuate between five hundred to fifteen hundred dollars a month. Most of the time averaging of our thousand dollars, but I just somehow could never get past a thousand dollars average despite being number one on Google, despite getting tons of traffic targeted audience despite buying every course on ads since an SEO enlist building and optimizing every darn part of my website and have it fully tricked out, constantly creating traffic and on and on and on and the work to stay on top of Google into search results was absolutely unforgiving and relentless, and all of that work didn't exactly pay off as much as it should have. Given that I did reach number one on Google and built a list of more than maybe a half a million subscribers. At one point. You know why it didn't work because ads generally don't work for most. People, and I mean added revenue as a main business model. Now, I know at that time there were quite a few websites like those one popular dating site at the time called plenty of fish dot com. And this guy who owned the site he was making like ten thousand dollars a day or something like that, and he was being interviewed on all kinds of shows. He was speaking at events and achieved like kind of like an online marketing rockstar status because of how well his at sense ads were doing, turns out he didn't really put all that much effort as I was doing on his website because he his was one of those fringe cases and outlier as he would be called today. So he achieved a perfect storm in a good way of being early in the online dating website business. His audience was mostly from the US probably only from the US which meant US advertisers paid more to Google to reach US based audiences because that's where the money is right. If you are advertising and targeting customers in poorer or third world countries, your ads are not going to do very well because you know those, those people like I'll I'll talk about that in a second. So because of the US audience, he got a bigger cut from those clicks because Google was charging bigger amounts perk like from those advertisers. So he made more money for himself and for Google, which is why Google probably promoted his website more and thus grew deliver new snowball. But unfortunately, my own website, baby names, India dot com was the exact opposite. It was attracting ninety-nine. Nine percent Indians most of them from India a poorer country by by US standards, at least and internet use wasn't very widespread at that point. And e commerce was pretty much nonexistent because most Indians in India did not have credit cards of the time and even the tiny person Daesh that debt did not use it online. So. So it was a perfect storm of the bad kind for me. So as much as I've tried to get out of the avenue game, and I did end up creating my own e book about Indian baby names, and I sold it for a couple of dollars, and I sold probably a few hundred copies a month, and I also sold a physical book which is a shift from India because the publisher was there, and I had a friend in India, my best friend who I every time I got an order, I would send to him and then he would ship it from there. So while sometimes my e book and book sales would make more than the actual avenue, it just wasn't consistent because my target market was an interested in buying online. And while the traffic and clicks were great, I was really not making too much from the ads themselves. So if you started a website or blog today, it doesn't matter how much great content you're going to be writing how much SEO you do on your website HAMAs social media marketing. You do how many links you post on Facebook. You're just not going to be able to drive five thousand unique visitors to your website. Anytime soon using just are Ganic traffic and organic search engine rankings, and it doesn't matter how at sense Beatty as in like, click bait. So add since bait type your content is even if you're targeting and expensive keyword or keywords like weight loss or supplements are health and fitness, you will not be able to make more than you know, some decent side income, which would probably pay for some Thais and diverse and movies, and you know, nights out downtown and maybe vacation here or there, but it's just not going to be enough to help you replace your income from your day job, and also the amount of work you would have to put in to in doing SEO and churning content nonstop, and tweaking, and testing all to probably make a few hundred dollars a month is just not going to be worth it. And if you quit your forty hour job to become a barely paid SEO guy for. Freelancer for Google than it's not going to be worth it. Trust me. So how else do dive traffic to your website? Paid ads, of course, but then that's kind of pointless, right? If you're gonna be paying money using pay dads to drive traffic to your website, which then displays ads and you'll get a small piece of it and that too only if they visit your website, basically they have to click on the ad and come to your website and they, they go through your content and they click on an ad, then you might get a few pennies of it back, right? Which means you're probably going to be spending a dollar to get back generously. Let's say ten cents, then that's just bad math and bad business, at least when it comes to add since arbitrage. So forget monetize in using just ads. You have to think of something that you can grow and scale and something that can be repeated over time. Now, even if you think of using a fleet marketing and trying to link awfully products to get back commission right. If if somebody goes onto buy something from the vendor or the seller, that even that's not a great long-term model, not for you. It's great for the vendor because you're sending them lots of traffic on your dime, and you're paying for people to go to their website and those visitors will go onto exposed to the product owners brand. The the vendor gets to cookie them. They get to put them on an Email list and they get to know who they are and day, get to send them emails and market to them over and over again. And if and only if from all the traffic you're sending them, if somebody goes onto buy something from the seller, then sure you will get paid a commission, right? Maybe thirty percent, maybe fifty percent and sure it can be a big check. If the product being sold is a high ticket item, but which one is better keeping, say ten percent of the prophets are one hundred percent of the prophets. Of course, I'm generalizing a profits as ten percent because there's no way to really predict it accurately. Because you are spending a lot of money up front and as you mean that you're adding is good. Your copy is good. Your conversions are good and somebody clicks on it, and then they go on to click on it and go to the vendor's website and they buy, you know, there's so many things that have to happen before you. See? Yeah, single penny back. So yes, you could get some of it back as commissions and it may not exactly be ten percent. It may be worse way worse, Huma get zero. You may actually lose a lot of money if you don't do all get all of the things in order and get your ducks in a row and stuff, but you get idea. It's still going to be a very small piece compared to what the website owner gets to keep even after they paid you for the few sales who sent them. And because the vendor owns a user experience of the visitors that you sent them and the brand experience, and they get to know the Email ID and put them on a list and turn them into customer dick and now keep sending those people emails that can keep adding value to them. You know, do the low like entrust stuff, keep selling more stuff. Tell them about. Their podcast and YouTube channel and kindle book your now given them a customer probably for life and as an affiliate, you're only helping Bill somebody else's audience, somebody else's list somebody else's business in sort of growing your own audience, your own list, your own customers and building your own long-term profitable online business. So monetize your audience with sponsors are affiliate. Marketing is still not a good enough business model for the long term, which means you've got to create your own products and services, and that is why when you're trying to create an online business you, I have to consider a number of things like, what are your strengths? What can you create a product or service about what topics are you great at created controversy back. What is your superpower? And then there's niche selection, who is your audience? What are their goals? What are their motivations? What are their problems? What do they care about? And how does all of that align with your own. Strengths with your own superpower and what your great at. I actually talked about this in two of my podcast episodes episode, number seventy and seventy one. So check it out at subscribing dot FM. The titles of the of the episodes are episode. Number seventy is product. I our audience first and then seventy one episode seventy one is a part two of that same thing product I our audience I so coming back to this show, the next thing you need to know is, is that audience going to be monetize -able as in? Can you make money with the audience? Now? I know it may sound like that's somehow dirty thing, but there's nothing wrong in knowing if the thing that you're going to put all of your time money, effort and passion into. If the thing can help you pay your bills and help you maybe quit your day job someday so you can do it all the time. And so you can be in years zone of genius. You can be happy. You could be passionate. You're gonna be doing the things you love and you can be doing remark. Things which will in turn inspire others, and you'll be able to help and inspire and change the lives of many others whose lives you touch in one way or the other. So if you think making money is a dirty thing, ten, you're probably listening to the wrong podcast. Now, obviously, I'm not saying you should look at your audience like they all have in gaining dollar signs icons on their heads are like how a Emily more network marketer would look at every human being in including their own brother-in-laws and sister-in-law's and their own cousins and family members like a prospect, right. I'm sorry if you're into that kind of thing, but that's how just how I feel about it because I've done it in the past and I know how it feels. So you need to know if your target audience is in a position to pay for things you create. Has this audience previously demonstrated that they will buy things online? Are you trying to sell Ferrari to a high school student? And that's why setting up a small store at your local. Mall is going to be way more profitable than setting up a huge store. But one that's out of the way in some remote part of the city where not many people go frequently. And that's why location is such an important part. When it comes to a physical store, you need to be where the customers are and where customers with money are and with the intentional buying. Are you get the point on the next episode which is going to be a continuation of this episode and going to give you more proof that the ad revenue model is dead, at least for most people, nine thousand nine percent of content creators anyway. And why sponsors are unreliable and quote, unquote donations is not a business model and don't forget to check out my other daily podcast cut to the chase at cut to the chase fem. It's a show where I talk about business marketing and tech hacks for entrepreneurs and digital creators. And I actually launched it less than two months ago. I, it just ten more days to go for two months, and it's already at. Episode, thirty eight and the new format because they're shorter episodes, and it's the daily show, gives me a completely new dimension for unleashing my creativity like never before. So the episodes are basically one to three minutes long pretty quick. And the longest I think is just about five minutes long. So it's like almost like riding a daily block post are sending a daily Email newsletter to your Email list, but it's actually way more powerful because it's audio. So the shark daily format forces me to be super creative because now I have to Denver an exciting and interesting show within that super short period of time, which means I have to cut right to the chase, which is why my show has called cut to the chase. So that is available as a podcast. And also as an exam or flash briefing, you know, I don't want to say the word, but you know the Amazon Weiss assistant. So check out my new podcast at cut to the chase dot FM are such a podcast app for the. Award cut to the chase dot FM as one word, and also in your Alexander skill section search for courtesy, chase him as one word. So if you want to support the show, please subscribe to this podcast available in your favorite podcast app or just go to subscribe, meet on FM slash itunes. If you're on an IOS device are subscribe miata fem slash, Android. If you are on an Android device are just go f- go to subscribe FM and you'll find a whole bunch of ways to subscribe to the show there. Thank you so much for listening. Appreciate your time. Cheers and toxin.

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Epic VS Apple - Fortnite removed from app stores, Epic sues Apple and Apple Respond!

This Week In Video Games

14:12 min | 8 months ago

Epic VS Apple - Fortnite removed from app stores, Epic sues Apple and Apple Respond!

"Welcome back to this week in video games, and this is the news roundup giving you all the latest video game news you need to know in just ten minutes. If you find this useful, then don't forget to like share subscribing youtube and your favorite podcast APP links down below in the description or the show notes was the nineteenth of August two, thousand twenty. And this is a new special where I'm going to be having I look at the epic versus Apple Saga and this story has been unfolding. Five days or so really really interesting stuff. I'll tell you about last week where it all began. So epic and Tim. Sweeney have been rather vocal about apple last few months or so. But they all seemed to kick off on the seventh of August twenty twenty when apple blocks projects cloud on IOS. This one comes from Wesleyan Poe Arafura GonNa. Apple has blocked project cloud on irs mark soft has abandoned the testing for the streaming services on apple devices an issued a strongly worded statement criticizing Apple's decision in a statement to business insider apple said it block for x plan because it can't review each game on game pass we project X cloud joins in September three APP store was created to be a safe and trusted place for customers discover and download APPs and a great business opportunity for all developers. Apple said for they go onto US door all APPS reviewed against the same set of guidelines that are intended to protect customers. And provide a fair and level playing field developers. Our customers enjoy great APPs and games for millions of developers and gaming services can absolutely not on the APP store as long as they follow the same set of guidelines applicable to or developers including submitting games individually for review and appearing in charts and search. In addition to the APP store, developers can choose to reach all iphone and IPAD users over the web through safari and other browsers on the APP store Mark Soft clearly is upset at the decision in statement issued to the verge the company bemoaned Apple's policy testing period for cloud preview. Expired monks off said, unfortunately, we do not have a path bring vision of cloud gaming with experts game OPTIMA to gamers on Iowa's five the apple APP store ato stands alone as the only general purpose platform to deny consumers from cloud gaming and game subscription services not exports game parts, and it consistently treats. Gaming APPs differently apply more lenient rules to non gaming APPs even when they include interactive content games available in the experts game pass catalog rated for content by independent industry ratings, bodies such as the ES R, B and regional equivalents and we are committed. To finding path to bring cloud gaming, Expos game pass out more to the IRS platform. We believe that the customers should be at the heart of the gaming experience and gains tell us where they wanna play connect can share anywhere no matter where they are and we agreed, and this is where the story gets interesting as Uruguay McGowan to say mark soft has an ally in this epic boss. Tim Sweeney who took to twitter to declare apple has outlawed the metaverse. The principal they state taken literally would rule out all cross platform ecosystems and games with music crave. Modes. Not Just Ex Clown Stadium and G force now. But also fortnight minecraft blocks he said, and that is a little bit of a precursor of what's to come is perhaps no surprise to see sweeney come out swinging against Apple. He's been a vocal critic of the company what calls and what he calls their thirty percent taxes apple like little platforms take thirty percent of sales on the APP store and the tech companies who are setting up their own subscription streaming services do not like that at all the upshot is projects. Cow Looks Unlikely to Lord John. Iowa's anytime soon, which is bad news for apple devices owners who are hoping to use the system android devices however will run project x cloud that was the first story there, and that seemed to ruffle some feathers within epic, and then this happened on the thirteenth of August twenty twenty this one comes from Tom Phillips, again Arafura. GEMA EPIC Games is added a new direct payment option to fort not an iphone and android devices and cutting out the portion of proceeds airport and Google taped by their own officials. Doors epic has long rallied against apple those types and. And previously launch four, nine, android virus launcher get around the issue. The launch Vanu cheaper direct payment option in game seems to be epochs latest salvo in this ongoing battle battle on both my platforms nine, nine, nine of in game currency. So Thousand Bucks when cost seventy nine if you picked the option to pay epic directly apple and Google collecting exorbitant thirty percent fee on all platforms ethics said in a spicy FAQ published today if Apple Goo, goo lowered their fees on. Payments epical pass on the savings to the players thousands of APPs on the APP store provided by Apple. Dr At payments including commonly used APPs on Amazon grab hub NYC best point door Dash Fandango McDonald's Uber Lift Stubhub and we think all developers should be free to support direct payments in APPs in offering four hundred in an open platform praying the game store epic processed over one point six, billion direct payments successfully and uses industry-trusted encryption and security measures to protect customer transactions. All of this is good news for Ni-, players on in consoles to and as part of the move epic termed the fortnight mega drop and is reduced the prices of both V. box and real money offerings on PC playstation, nintendo switch, and xbox. This is permanent reduction and knocks down all crisis by twenty percent. It means on those platforms thousand bucks cost six, four, nine, instead of seven, nine, nine, fifty purchase anything in the last thirty days epic will refund you the. Difference what you paid it cost. Now, this applies to anything bought fortnight from the fourteenth of joy on wood, and we'll be automatically editor account by next. Monday. So again on the thirteenth, of August, this one is from Daniel Tat from Game Informer and the headline rates fortnight poured from IOS APPs store epic games, and Apple Feud apple was pulled from the APP store after Port Services. Morning of an option epic was including in the game to bypass the APP store pricing allowing. Users to make purchases from every directly apple responded by pulling fortnight from the APP store. Completely epic Games responded by airing nine hundred, ninety, four style video inside fortnight, and this is an absolutely insane movie a big shot apple the hearkens back to the ancient history where apple introduced the Macintosh? Yes. This is a battle between two rich companies is full of twists and turns even mobilizing the four nine user base with the Hash Tag free four night in the battle against. Apple. Any of the appropriate this is pretty weird but in twenty twenty, there are no rules because the four nine game video is ready to go shortly after the APP was pulled in his writer's opinion, the initial move to bypass the APP store was a deliberate gesture to move the events to where they are. Now with epic's filing legal papers against apple, you can go and read about the legal here in me legal filing down in the description or the show nuts well. The nearest didn't stop there and again on the thirteenth of August two, thousand twenty. So epic sues Google after four nights kicked off the playstore and this one comes from amateur our PC gamer surly today apple removed from the IRS APP store after epic directly towns its payment processing policies by offering V box for sale dr purchase from epic discount, and they made the same offer to the android version of the game as reported by the verge, and it's achieve the same result. Four nine has been kicked off the Google play store. Google isn't as restrictive as apple when it comes to its devices marketplace, but it does have very clear policies regarding in APP purchases, developers offering products within a game download on Google play all providing access to game content Massey's Google plays in billing as the method of payment Google like apple collects thirty percent of APPs in in-app purchases made through storefront the open android ecosystem. Let's develop developers distributed apps through what APPS store. For. Game developers who choose to use the play store we have consistent policies that fair to developers Gu said in a statement four night remains available on android. We can no longer make it available imply because it violates policies. However, we welcome the opportunity to continue our discussions with epic and bring four night back to Google play. The Google play takedown isn't the Earth Shaker in the APP store removal is one thing four hundred has been available in place to us. In April anyway prior to that, it was available to install through the web epic wanted an exception to the playoffs tapes and fee Google refused to budge eventually epic gave in only grudgingly given today's APP store development the legal action epic subsequently filed against Apple. I've a wonder if part of the reason it capitulated is the new this day was coming anyway also notable is that unlike irs onus android users can still get four of their devices if I want it. Allows devices to access software through third party marketplaces, and that's how epic was able to offer four nine android without being in the place previously. So you can still pop around epic games. So come and grab it directly and stuff in the news apple respond, and this one comes Andy Chalk. A PC Gamer and headline reads epoch seeks restraining order against Apple's devastating response to a lawsuit and this one came out on the seventeenth of August twenty twenty. This is where things get really interesting. Last week wrapped up with a bang as epic games filed a lawsuit against. Over its monopolistic practices on the IOS APPs stole the move came after epic challenge Apple's policies regarding payments offering an option to purchase V in our version of four hundred directly from the developer. The risky part of picking a fight is sometimes you'll get it and that brings us to today EPOCA's found a motion seeking a temporary restraining order against apple after the Tech Company informed the as a result of its violation of the. Apple developer. Program license agreement all of epic's developer accounts access to Iowa O s and Mac development tools will be terminated on August. The Twenty eight epoch said in the finally experts to win the case against apple and one would assume Google on the merits of his claims but it needed a temporary injunction because it will be irreparably harmed before the judgment comes if apple's actions are allowed to continue in ways that goes far. Beyond, just four nine. So if the unreal engine can no longer for apple's platforms software developers that use, it will be forced to use alternatives the damage to epics, ongoing business and to his reputation and trust with customers. We'll be unquantifiable an irreparable. The new lawsuit seeks an order preventing apple from removing delisting and refusing to list or otherwise making unavailable four nine, four nine updates in the APP store without requiring epic to remove. The option to purchase feedbacks directly as well as the prohibition against the remove any other EPI Games, and crucially the unreal engine and wants to die consequences. If the order isn't granted, Apple's retaliation represents an existential threat epic's unreal engine epics. LAWSUIT SAYS I was providers like apple routinely make sense software and develop tools available to software developers for free or a small fee to enable the development of software that will run on the. Apple intends to deny access to that widely available material and appears to be the biggest issue for epic right now, the loss of those tools means it won't be able to continue developing for the unreal engine for s and Mac devices and the interns means developers and those platforms maybe forced to turn to other engines not just for video games bought all products in many fields currently bill on unreal engine the ensuring impact of the unreal engine's viability and the trust and confidence of developers having their engine cannot be repaired with Monetary Award. The lawsuit says, this is quintessentially irreparable harm to apple on the other hand will not suffer irreparable harm if. The injunction is ordered. The suit says because if found warranted, any ill suffer by apple F- could be addressed monetarily epic found Tim swinging repeated that point in declaration included with the lawsuit saying the consequences of losing access to Apple's developer program will be devastating developers invest considerable time and resources learning to use and develop games based on the engine. Often with the expectation those games we supported on apple platforms he sent. This is particularly true because the mobile gaming category as is substantially larger. The computing or console gaming and mobile remains a high growth area in the gaming industry. If epic can no longer develop future updates, unreal engine that support Mac. Developers will not choose unreal engine to develop any games or products apple devices. The loss of unreal engine's ability to support these important platforms were therefore causing irreparable harm to epics. Offering many developers were select competing engine for their new projects off the next version of their games. Despite those potentially very dark consequences. Sweeney doesn't sound like he's quite ready to throw in the towel on the Goliath versus bigger Goliath fight just year. Where Tim Sweeney said on twitter on August seventeenth fighting apple policies was tweeting on the iphone don't hey the players the game I promote a storefront where developers have to bid against each other for searches from brands was breaking out stores four competing with them or to protect customers quote unquote he goes on to say if we don't fight for our rights where we stand will eventually run out of places to retreat to, and by then we'll be too weak and divided to win. This is why developers need to find the storm plays here and now well, that's the news today and there's a kind of summary of the apple versus epic saga so far and I'll bring you up to date. With more news as it comes in. 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Banned in Norway

EGO NetCast

06:31 min | 2 years ago

Banned in Norway

"Man. God. Welcome to eagle at cost. I am Martin Linda scope t to survive. Good friday. It's a long day hanging. It's called long Friday in Swedish Dongfeng leader. And Good Friday in English. I don't know what's good about it. But that's the name of it. Title office episode number seventy six is banned in Norway. Life of Brian mon- Monty python's movie life of Brian. It's a citrical movie. Funny movie will sue funny banned in Norway. So that's what movie poster a slogan from a movie poster in Sweden in v. Eight. So it got banned in Norway we smoothie 'cause it was according to the. L set Gada missed get getting mitten Gettleman of the national film censorship. They banned it because it was on the basis violated section one four two of the Norwegian constitution which prohib- prohibited. Insults to religious groups in minority groups. So think about that for moment. These movie about forty years ago got banned in Norway for years, and then it was age eighteen plus in an and also warning at the beginning of movie. Could vis kind of movie be produced published on released nowadays. Do you think or would any kind of group really deuce minority or some other field so-called offended by these kind of movie? What do you think? And I will link to the internet movie database some trivia, there have been banned in several places and also lift the ban pretty recently in some small small places towns since owning for example in Ireland for force. I note then this movie big movie. That was regarding. So Christ soon I would move. I will add vetting the show notes. Then they did this promotion again in North America with life of Brian as a vet said cashing in on this interesting new religious movie film. So yeah. Satirical movie could be could be banned in a country in Norway in this case. So I will link to Vicki PD L movie life of Brian and also to span got in in Norway Vanu news fair. And also to site cycled, rational, wheat Viki could read more about these vs Elsa. She will sued politician in Norway to been directories. Natural film censorship agency for several years. She will send labor party member. There. So we could continue this conversation about censorship. Right to say what you want to Bruce movie freedom of speech, but also of a private cinema owners if I wanted to say to show the movie or not so it be interesting. If you think about is it should it be okay to ban a movie, and if it's your own movie feet, or let's your Ford about that. And we could also continue of your favorite movies that you watch during the Easter. But also, yeah, you'll favorite mover old time. I have started to become more active on profile air profile page on internet movie database. It's own by Amazon, and I have a profile virus search for lyceum one seven seven six you should be able to find me, and I will link Michelle nuts. Also, I have then added my favorite movies Vashon Kalat talked about in previous f. Episode hair and. Rans movie documentary rant sense of life. And then the Winslow boy, that's a favorite of mine. And then then I created this account eight years ago, something sweat to beards. So. We'll talk about that and continue in near future. Cheerio again.

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Taking the Risk of Vulnerability with Dr. Vania Manipod, Psychiatrist: Destigmatizing Mental Health in Filipino Families, Overcoming Burn Out & Speaking Out

Filipina on the Rise

54:51 min | 8 months ago

Taking the Risk of Vulnerability with Dr. Vania Manipod, Psychiatrist: Destigmatizing Mental Health in Filipino Families, Overcoming Burn Out & Speaking Out

"There was a phase of a lot of pain but it also a few of a ton of growth i. I was ashamed. Because first of all i was like great like people who know me are going to read it. Other doctors are gonna read it and they're gonna be like what's wrong with her but by putting myself out there like that. I actually got a lot of positive feedback from other physicians in you know even other medical professionals saying thank you so much for writing. I feel the same way. I was just afraid to say anything so going along the lines of your sense of purpose even though nobody else is doing it. You kind of have this gut feeling even though at a risk doing it like you know that you have to and it's worth the risk because the outcome can just be so much better than the impact that it can have can be really meaningful to a lot of people on rice. Podcast where i spotlight filipino. Women doing big things and making an impact. I'm your host chris. Fabella and i aim to elevate filipina. Excellent educate the world about. We are in celebrate what it needs to be filipino. Today we're talking to dr banana pop. The nia is a psychiatrist who has become well known for being outspoken about mental health and reducing the stigma of mental illness. Especially for the filipino. And her instagram has over. Forty one thousand followers in the popular blog. Writing boston where she promotes. It's stylish to talk about mental help. She has been invited speaker on both the state and national level on topics such as physician burnout psychiatry and more on this episode. We talk about her journey becoming a psychiatrist. And how being filipina and philippine culture influence that you talk about her experience of occupational burnout and depression and how that condition led her to reevaluate her priorities. As a psychiatrist we have an article. She wrote that sparked a large discussion on psychological issues. Plaguing pre med and medical students. We then cover how we start demonizing mental illness and our families and on checking in on yourself during out at the and she has a special message to filipino. Women that ireland we reach out to veneer because a member on the philippine rise team said that while filipinos are known to be in healthcare field. There's low of representation filipino physicians. It dawned on me that this was kind of true and get in the field of psychiatry. That's even less representation. I had so many questions on vitus was. And how can we start shaping the filipino and asian american community. Have you ever felt like you're the only one experiencing something along with that. There's a hush hush dennis around it or a lack of social norms accepting it to things usually happen when you try to look for answers and find very little one you can settle and here include that you are the only one or two you put yourself out there and speak out to seal echo with anybody now. Imagine being a physician. My parents ultimate dream and treating patients on mental illness and experiencing extreme burnout yourself. But it felt risky to speak out and twenty fourteen the new occupation and feeling extremely burnt out. She went where a lot of us would go to find answers. In the sense of reliability online upon finding very little on physician burnout she decided to write an article and we get into the story later in the road from her releasing that article. She opened up a whole community of medical students and professionals were feeling the same way but just trapped in the silence of taboo. I love this story. Because that's actually how filipino on the rise got started one day in two thousand nineteen. I was desperately searching for podcasts highlighted stories of filipino women who are thriving in different industries when i couldn't find any i just thought this can't be instead of feeling alone and laying. This be the conclusion. I took it on myself to find the stories myself and i have to say part of it was selfish. I wanted the stories for me. To tell myself that. I wasn't alone there had to be other filipinos like me out there but more importantly in hopes that it would resonate with other filipino. Women so they wouldn't feel alone. I'm so grateful for women like baena who opted in to share her experiences. Her story though started as a young filipina girl who was a little timid and struggle to speak up for herself. I can't wait for you to hear the story evolution before we start. If you haven't already yet. I would love if you could take a few seconds to subscribe to the podcast and leave a written review more subscribers and five star reviews are so helpful to go the show and reach more listeners. If you write a review. I will personally shout you out in. Thank you on the show. Thanks so much in advance. Everyone okay now here we go thank you so much for joining us on filipina on the rise. How're you doing. I'm doing great as can be during the pandemic. thanks for having me crystal. You're very welcome. I'm very curious. So you've been on a couple of podcast. I'm always like what conversations were being had. And what have you been talking about. Yeah it's usually related to psychiatry in some way like some mental health education. And so. I'm that i'm doing this. Yeah so. I've actually listened to a couple of your podcasts. I'm just like listen. Sit back relax. This is from one to another love. We're going to just get to be more like you know real invulnerable and personal with you and i'm really excited about that because although you are a doctor you are also a lot of other thing so and by the way i feel my asian parents kicking me for calling you by your first name. It's okay you'll let in head like they're just scolding me holding an office patient setting you know it's okay okay and i'm curious you said you were working on a couple projects recently. Dementia during that. I'm just really. Yeah so. I've been adjusting to working for a new private practice. Kaya tryst but in addition to that. I'm trying to do my own kind of thing to kind of i never thought i would like tell us. Psychiatry which is where you see patients online by actually enjoy it. So i'm trying to come up lending that's related to that where i could stay connected with my patients but also reach more people like webinar expand which is probably totally increasing. Right now now. Yeah all the virtual therapies or consultations things meeting with there were gonna get too much into. Kobe talks trust me. I'm kind of sick you on it. Yeah yeah a big zoom out on what your own world as psychiatrists the role that you're playing right now in the context of the pandemic and then we'll move from that. Oh yeah so. I mean aside from seeing patients in a lot of them are impacted by the pandemic and the stress related to it. But i have to also say like a lot of them are thriving in this pandemic because the whole world is anxious so a lot of people who having zion near lake. Love that people. They don't love it in the laying that other people are experiencing what they're experiencing so that they know what it's like. Yeah i'm continuing to see patients but in addition to that i also volunteer for physician support. Line 'cause a lot of physicians on the front lines are really overwhelmed right now and they need support so participating in that and i- sonia who would have thought this would all be coming into play but i'm really excited also to be talking to you on the mental health awareness month. Perfect timing. I know and just so everybody knows. The neon pod is super active. social media. presence has really grown very outspoken. about things like social anxiety and mental health and health care. You'll see all her posts ranging from tips to current residents right. That's right word to students to talking about limiting your coffee. I was just growing on the other day and like i was feeling really tired. And you had one cute post about like you're doing great like just a simple or tune posed and reminders. And so it's really awesome to see a filipina on this forefront voicing out what has been such stigmatized topics not just in the medical field but even in the asian american and filipino household. So i'm super excited to dive more into your journey and also i guess how you feel being filipina and like the message that you have for our filipino community. Yeah like through your experiences. So the question. I always like to start with is baena in your own words. Who is vinnie amana pod and what is your current mission. Good question okay. So who is via menopause. So i am the oldest of thirty three grandchildren. I come very big filipino family. I'm the oldest. So that's influenced a lot of decision. I've made in my life. Because i always felt the need to be a leader and to guide my cousins and my siblings and set a good example. You know just like many filipinos. I had the pressure to become a physician or nurse in the medical field of some sort. And i thought that for a long time but realized like i really do want become a physician and i think you know. I'll save that story for maybe later if if you want to go. But i'm really fought becoming a physician for a long time. Just because it's a cultural expectation but you know i really identify it and i truly think it's my purpose and my face. Filipinos were catholic. I raised catholic. And it's a very important part of my life. But i truly feel like becoming a psychiatrist and trying to break the mental health stigma and showing that. It's okay to go to therapy. It's being treatment. It's okay to talk about our mental health struggles which almost everybody is probably experiencing. But they're just afraid to mention it. I feel like it's my purpose to spread as much awareness as possible to enter each as many people as possible. That's awesome i remember. You were talking about a time when you were questioning. Is this the right direction. Because you're being pulled. By the current that a lot of us avenue i even started off pre madden and then i switched my major five times. You know about that but you know as of first born and you said a lot of your family were in the medical field. Already said yes. There are several musicians nurses. Yes yeah yeah and that there is a moment. I guess a point that really defined like yes. This is what i want to be doing it involved with your grandpa and you tell us about that. Yeah so my grandpa. He was my role model. Pretty much growing up. I think he invest. Because i was the oldest. He invested a lot of time in me. Because i think he truly wanted me to become a physician and make him proud and i wanted to make him proud but at the same time i hated feeling limited so throughout school. I was pre med. And i did everything all the requirements. Just in case site you know ended up going that route. But i truly wanted to become a news broadcaster. That was my and you're into journalism right iam I loved writing a lot more before. I still enjoy it but yeah still do it. Yes still knew right from magazines. articles but it wasn't until you know like he passed away from cancer at. I didn't find out that he passed away. He passed away the day. I was studying for the cat. Which is the exam that you have to pass and get into medical school. So i failed miserably. Obviously because i found out during break that he passed away. And it wasn't until then where i went to the exam thinking. Oh i have to do this. Justice satisfy my family and just make my grandfather proud but it wasn't until lake. You know i had time to think about it. After he passed away where. I realized that i actually truly wanted to become one once. The pressures were gone. You know so. I feel like oftentimes we hear people say you know their parents seen encourage them but they didn't force it upon them you with their given the opportunity to kind of really explore and think about it. I feel like many times. They may arrive at that decision. Anyway or just go a separate route. That makes them happier. also curious why specific field of psychiatry For you you don't see too. Many filipinos like horta rear. I wonder why have you looked into that. Or maybe you have a better understanding of the psychology behind that. I don't know i haven't looked into it. I mean there's several asian psychiatrists. I am but no actually. I don't know but that's a good question. Yeah so one of the girls on the philippine on the race team one of the women. Her name's myrna and she is actually an aspiring medical student. And she was the one who connected with you to get you on the show. Yes yeah and she spoke of you because there's very few. I guess like when it comes to the physician industry we think of filipinos a lot of them go into nursing and so you know this need of representation filipino physicians and then especially in psychiatry. And then we have you who is not just your very outspoken and kind of promoting a lot of newer discussion points. And so did you ever feel like you're going to be in the place now and the reason i ask is because i want to take us back to your childhood and i guess your upbringing. You actually said you were a lot. Shire anche quiet during school. Yeah well it's interesting. Because i you know growing up i wanted to be a newscaster and be out in public but like the idea of it kind of scares me a lot so i had no idea that would actually be a physician a psychiatrist but still putting myself out there just because i was so shy. We'll talk about that more later but No i didn't think i would be but somehow everything in my life has led to this point like for example. You know usually when a asian americans go down this path of going into medicine. It's got a nonstop and linear you high school college men's mall residency when i was in internship after i graduated from medical school i was told that i had to find a different program. And i'm like oh my gosh like this totally ruins my whole plan. But moving to a different program a smaller program and it was in oregon. So is the only asian person they're really the put a focus on me and found that i was so shy and quiet but i had potential so it wasn't until then where i got that attention and they really focused on me to the point where they wanted me to grow they recommended. I go to therapy. And that's how i found my voice. I was able to overcome that social anxiety in order to fulfill think these positions and put myself out there a lot more. So you grew up in marino. Franschhoek among rancho cucamonga. Yeah okay yeah which is also the county where. I grew up so when you saw that. Yeah i wanna learn more about your experience as a filipino. Because you mentioned which a lot of people face growing up when you are not surrounded by a lot of filipinos facing this almost correction of being filipino. And kind of you fought your identity as filipino. So what factors played into that. And how do you feel like this affected you on your own journey. Yeah when i lived in rancho cucamonga. I went to elementary school there. I was the only full asian american there. One of my friends was half indonesian behalf white. But i was the only one who booked asian and that was really hard for me. Because i would be doing something as simple as just playing basketball and one time i remember. I was playing basketball by myself for some reason. I don't know why. I had friends like a few friends but that day i happened to be playing by myself and i remember this one white kid. He came up to me and took my basketball and said why. Don't you go back to china. Which i think is something that many of us have experienced but the difficult thing about that and you know sometimes when we look back at our childhood their specific events that we remember. And you wouldn't think something like that would be so ingrained in our minds but for me it is not remember talking about it with by therapist and i cried. All's like i can't even be myself and be extended for just doing something as simple as being a kid playing so so crazy. How one little moment can just affect your psyche. So years later growing up. In when i hear that common. It's this almost anti-asian rhetoric which i feel. I know that you've also been an advocate for talking about like the racism going on right now and not to hop pods but you know that is something i appreciate that. You've been very vocal about so back on this moment. Like growing up. That's what you face in. You said that this kind of rick rejection really affected you. How did it translate into. Maybe like you're on my career growth or journey early professional journey. Yeah in order for me to and sometimes it's hard for me to admit but after talking to other asian americans they say they had similar experiences and it wasn't until their adulthood where they started to identify more with their asian pacific islander heritage for me. I had to go to therapy in group therapy with. I was only asian. And i had to process why i was quite all the time in that group because it always say why are you so quiet which is a microcosm and pretty much the same experience i had when i was a little kid. It's really interesting. How this stuff plays out in adulthood to when you're exposed to similar triggers. I'm you know well established pretty accomplished. And when i was in this group with all caucasian men and women. I wouldn't say anything and finally like i gained insight. That is because it resembles the same type of environment. I was in when i felt rejected. Where i felt like i couldn't speak up. I couldn't be myself so once. I had that recognition and insight. Like after that was like. Whoa i can talk more like my finally recognized like you know. It's not until we're aware about of it. Yeah for sure it feels like therapy just solved so much like uproots so much of those those things that i mean. Every time i talk to people and like these realizations come through therapy. And how almost like say their life were just if they didn't take it on early enough. When did you start into therapy. Was something that was just infused like during school because that is something that isn't so like prominent especially in a household origins at least encourage towards. I know like every time. I talk about it to my parents. They see it as almost like weakness or you know. Just get through it so curious how that started plural full something. I'm open about as well as data my struggles throughout my training to become a psychiatrist so when i moved away to oregon i had no support system. I didn't know anybody there. Experience depression like significant. It was clinical depression. I would say for the very first time in my life that it affected my grades. I was failing a lot of things. And i had to be put on probation because i was failing things and part of the terms of probation was you have to seek treatment and getting the rest. So of course. I was so mortified. Because i was like. Oh my gosh like never. Would i ever imagined that i would be depressed or even someone. We depressed because we never even talked about that. Was it hard to apply that term for you to like internalize it. I remember reading in your article. You're just like i can't be depressed. Am i it. It's hard like in the beginning. It was so hard for me to admit it. Now i tell everybody. I'm like i've experienced depression but in the first time it's so shameful because you'd also don't want to tell your family because you're supposed to be just like suck it up and you know get it done but also especially when another thing that you wrote about is looking around and seeing these factors of privilege like oh. I shouldn't be depressed. Because i'm in a grade. School like i'm integrate. Track and greek family around me. I shouldn't be does your you know. Feel that in the beginning to. Oh yeah like. There's no reason you oftentimes. That's what we tell ourselves like have a good career like i'm not you know i'm pretty lake financially. Okay like You have all the positive factors but you know. Depression in psychiatric issues is not specific or limited to specific group like anybody's prone. So i finally thought i went to therapy just because it was required of me and i hated it at first. But it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. And it's why i'm able to speak up. It's why i am able to put myself out there as a filipino american men. Why don't let you know like those feelings. That i initially had gone like be myself that be in. What way did therapy no culture or traditions or just being filipino. Influence your own journey. I would have to say. Especially since we're so group oriented community oriented and family oriented. I incorporate that with everything i do. I want other people to feel a part of you know things i'm doing. I care about the group as a whole and not just very individualistic. Everything that i do. I try and make sure i consider other people. That's an insignificant part of our culture and also my face i mean that's a huge keno culture. There is this one interview that i saw with you. When you started. I think maybe residency. I'm not really sure when you're going through occupationally and you were getting frustrated because the way that you wanted to engage with your patients like the system wasn't allowing you to do that or something and i wonder if there's that play of like if you're taking care of patients like you wanna be connected and take care of them like family because maybe there is some cultural influence there. I'm not sure that. I i remember hearing that wondering what the struggle was like for you and where you think it came from. Yeah i think maybe it's along the lines of how the medical system and the health system these days is you know you're supposed to see patients in and out of this revolving door and have no time to spend with them. But you know that. Just doesn't fit the type of person i am. It's doesn't fit like the type of the way that i feel like my grandparents and my family instilled in me to think about people you know beyond just you know like superficial things like so something. I fight all the time but patients really feel like like they say they feel a connection with me. Like i'm not judging them likely truly feel care and i really think that's just part of my upbringing like home. My grandparents you know in the philippines. They open their homes to the poor and they said the poor. So it's carried on sure that's awesome i would you recommend more filipinos going into this. Is bill going into psychiatry. Well it was interesting because one of my uncles and he was an ophthalmologist in the philippines. But he's even saying like psychiatry is a good field. And i'm like well. I never thought he would say that but i think he just recognizes lake will first of all you know you just have to talk. You don't have to buy all this equipment and stuff. I know filipinos are always thinking about like money home but you know it's like pretty cheap to go into a practice but i think they also are recognizing just how much more to being valued great pivot like in two thousand fourteen vanu is in her occupation and feeling burnt out she well online and found very little about physician burnt-out and this compelled her to share her story. That article titled a psychiatrist is burnt out and depressed. Here's what she did about it. She shared her reserve for tolerating stress had reached maximum capacity and had the teague and the need for multiple naps throughout the day. She wrote how ironic that i educate. My patients on material causes of tiredness all the time and neither of the causes. I mentioned team to fit my case. She then writes why share my experience. We may read research statistics and articles about physician burnout yet. The majority of people in the medical field still do not feel open more comfortable enough to share due to fear of stigma criticism and feelings of guilt and shame. A part of me even feels somewhat embarrassed posing this but if someone out there can identify with my experience then why not share physician. Burnout is more common. Among physicians at any other workers in the united states baena finishes articles saying staying silent about our struggles and trying to cope on. Our own does not solve the problem. Especially since the rate of position. Burnout is on the rise. If we can't advocate and santa clara cells and who will this would be an almost a fining moment is experience with resonate the whole community medical professionals and students who also felt this way but trapped in the silence of the taboo people began reaching out and from that point. She would get asked to speak out on this much more. This reflected how much topic was crying out for attention. This is why representation and vulnerability so powerful. It opens a floodgate for a whole community just wanting their experiences validated to know that they aren't alone. Like i said this is how this podcast started. And just the whole concept of pain to purpose and making what is missing told me about what was going through and you're trying to research and find some kind of online reading for what you're going through and finding little first of all that's amazing your paving the way because i had never heard of any pod house until i heard about yours for filipinos so for me. Thank you for bringing up. Also the article. Because there's times that i forget because you know how sometimes we filter out some painful events in her life that my heart is like. Oh my gosh. I totally forgot about that experience because it was very painful. Oh hurry if i brought up anything triggered anything oh no not triggering at all. It's good because it was a phase of a lot of pain but it was also a few of a ton of growth. Because it wasn't until i wrote that where you know i. I was ashamed because the title of that word says a psychiatrist is burnt out and depressed. Here's what she did about it. That was not my title. That was the title of the publication now neutral that or the first of all i was like great like people who know me going to read it. Other doctors are going gonna read in. And they're gonna be like what's wrong with her but instead recruits but by putting myself out there like that. I actually got a lot of positive feedback from other physicians in you know even other medical professionals saying thank you so much for writing. I feel the same way. I was just afraid to say anything. So you know going along the lines of like trying to be you know finding your sense of purpose even though nobody else is doing it. You kind of have this gut feeling. Even though it's a risk doing like you know that you have to and that it's worth the risk because the outcome can be so much better impact that can have can be really meaningful of people and it's congruent with who you are lake for you. This is clearly passionate about and this is something. I'm passionate about two. So i was willing to take that risk. I was willing to be known as the psychiatrist who couldn't even identify it in herself even though he treat people with depression and that was okay because it made me human made other people. Feel less shame. Do you feel like that was a turning point for the advocate and the leader in his field and topic. Yeah there were other doctors who are doing the same thing. Maybe they're only like one or two. Maybe two that were windy noon but for me it was a turning point because it was recognized by my medical association and that was huge. Was even more validation that they supported me and then it gave me opportunities like speaking engagements which scared the heck out of me but a realizes this is something i had to do. Also so it led to just a lot more opportunities because people knew that this was something that had to be discussed so it just kind of increased opportunities which is why i'm even more active on social media and menem still doing what i'm doing by putting myself out there and leading to more media opportunities as well. It's just crazy at like when you think about just being outspoken. About something like the magic that you put back out into the world when you are like you said like oh i could be judged for this and it could go in a different direction or it could help out a few people and you just happen to this whole community. That's been waiting to be spoken for like for the longest time. And i just see it as you saying like hey you know what the heck whoever this reaches. I'm not sure who. But i need to put this out there because this feeling of like i can't be the only one right right right and i kept telling myself that because you know how we tell ourselves like if it reaches one person that i would have fulfilled the you know like would make me happy and for me because there's a very high suicide rate amongst physicians and that's what i kept thinking in my mind like that one person could have been somebody who is so depressed and was afraid to seek And that's actually something that a lot of medical students in some physicians have told me like they sought treatment because they saw me talking about it. So yeah impact was more than i had imagined. I'm gonna move on from this for a long time. But i think it intrigues me so much because of how raw you get and you kind of take away the veil for a lot of people who are outside of this community who regarded as like everyone is you know getting things perfectly and everyone's on and their mental health is great and you peel back that away and you're like having a hard time seeing patients like you said i read this one thing. You're like i hated waking up in the morning. Didn't want to go to work like that shocked. My system like whoa. That's crazy and then i do read about that. We're like burnout gets real that it takes away the fulfilment of it and you touch on that a little bit yeah. That's part of the signs of burnout is adds a lot of us. Go into our fields or pursue something. We're really passionate about but sometimes like a sign of when we're burned out was just when we start losing interest. We started to feel like the work we do is meaningless in has no purpose and we start to really cynical about the work that we do. Hoon cynical resent yes. Yeah so much meaning exactly. A lot of our listeners are like of course filipino. Women and it's hard to apply that word. I've seen like burn out sometimes because it's just like you have duty like i think we a lot of our work with i. This is what we're supposed to do in its duty and it's good and it's right. How would you recommend like maybe someone does a self check on like it this way and what they can do to really start taking care of themselves. I that with burn out if you like to quick trip. It doesn't just go away like that. It kind of comes back more speedily. Hey everyone i wanted to share some exciting news with you. Philippine on the rise will now be on youtube. You can now check out upcoming video interviews with guests on their other episodes as well as educational fun content surrounding filipino. Women because we are extending the show. I would love your financial partnership. We have a patriot. I count you'd pledge one dollars three dollars or five dollars a month to help keep the show going. That's cheaper than a of holla. Holla what will you get. I will send you a filipina on the rice sticker with a hadron. Thank you know for me personally shadow on the show and more your financial support we go directly to things like better recording equipment getting even better gessen more content. Please visit on peach dot com slash filipino. On the rise of link is also on the show. Okay now back to the show. How would you recommend like maybe someone does self check on like. They're feeling this way and what they can do to release start. I guess taking care of themselves. I know that with bernard e if you like take a quick trip. It doesn't just go away like that. It kind of comes back more speedily. Yeah that's a tough one especially in our culture. Because you don't what i think about like women in my family. They're all strong women. I don't see much vulnerability. it's hard for them to show vulnerability. It's hard for them to just sit down and be okay with it so i remember one time telling my mom lake. You should like actually just sit and watch. Tv or something and and you know. I often tell people At rest and you allow yourself to rest. You're just going to be more productive in the long run. If you allow yourself to rest you could be more present and enjoy time with family. So i'm just trying to express the benefits of it and focusing on themselves. They just think it's really hard. Because i think that in their upbringing especially like like my mom always tells me how when they were kids. They had to walk miles and kerry bug water and stuff like year. Yeah and i'm like. Oh gosh we're star privilege you know like so i haven't had to like reinforce it as much because i think i see in my mom like she would call in sick and i think deep down they know sometimes when it's time but i just think it's hard for them to accept it but my mom sees me focusing on self care what i went to therapy and she realized how much better much nicer i was. She was like oh. Yeah keep going to therapy. That's amazing have you been able to leave your family members who would otherwise against it to therapy because that's a huge feat. That's what i'm trended. Well actually you know my sister's a licensed marriage and family therapist. I don't know if i mentioned that. So she's a therapist so two daughters in the mental health profession. My sister and i have teamed up before to do interventions with our family and make them vulnerable and cry which is greed like before that they never really talked about feelings and emotions. But we've really become a stronger family unit. Ever since we've allowed ourselves to be vulnerable and open with each other. My mom listens to the. So i just wanna say mom did not. You heard it from a doctor. I'm power you to do it. I think hard for them to kind of wrap their heads around the fact that this could be really helpful but when my mom saw so much happier and more less mean i think i wasn't eligible person in medical school because i was so busy. She's like oh. Wow so it actually does help. Yeah yeah i always feel like especially within the asian american communities. I'm kind of like workshop or like woman who's leading a session on how to talk to our families about the most common questions i receive from filipino. Followers is how do i cut my parents to like talk to me and open up to me. And how can i tell them what. I'm really feeling and i'm like that's so sad. Oh my goodness steamatic common thing say. Oh it's a tough one. It's tough howard respond. Because they actually tell them what it took lick briefly briefly summarized but it took me to get my parents to open up. Oh actually. I've done a post on it. About how like. I blamed my parents when i failed something and yelled. You said you wanted me to do this. And i'm failing. And i'm only doing this because of you and i remember just like that was like i have held everything in so but it wasn't until then when i actually like yells at them and said how i they're like we just want you to be happy so it required me actually opening up instead of kind of what i was feeling and you would hope that your parents would say something positive like that which i've had some philipino tell me that their parents did open up and say something like that when they finally got the courage to stand up to them. That's amazing. yeah. I'm going to be researching those on your on your meaning of your platform and social media. Your social media presence has really grown and it real flex you know your own voice. But i feel like maybe the you mentioned also reflects what you find the community on audiences really looking for and wanting to hear more about. And so how do you feel like your own role. And your voice has evolved online and for your like built community started like it kind of evolves depending on what i'm going through and what's phase i met in my life and in my career so it i it was all like me gung ho about teaching about psychiatry which you know in training. That was my big focus was trying to educate people about psychiatry but it's always maintained and people tell me this because i've been blogging since two thousand ten and then it expanded into social media but a lot of people who follow me like even since then tell me that my purpose has never really changed. I've always stayed true to what's important to me. Which is breaking the mental health stigma and making people be okay like talking about mental health. And that's why my tagline is because it's stylish to talk about mental health and i've always maintained but then places that it's evolved as you know for example like lately i have been talking more about asian american pacific islander mental health related stuff so about yet. It's interesting. I don't know if it's because i moved to orange county or maybe i've just had opportunities like starting with you andrea reaching out to do this podcast. But i've just been getting more opportunities where it is focusing on mental health. Asian american communities. So that has become a focus lately. But i also try to talk about things that are pretty general also like talking about caffeine stuff that we can already but it's relevant to me so i take what's relevant to me and i know it also applies to other people because comes from this like personal authentic place. Yeah now that your voice for this immunity like taking a different angle on the conversation of de-stigmatising a mental health. I feel like it is my purpose at this point in my life i will admit there's times i feel. What do you call it. Like even something as simple as like. Oh my supposed to say. We're asian american or asian pacific islander. You know it's like like. I'm like i'm learning like we're all learning and we're all yes so even something simple as that i'm like i can't represent the community if i don't even know the difference but i think something we have to accept is like a lot of us are trying to figure out our identities and accepting our asian american pacific islander. You know background. It's it's a whole process and this is my process so like even doing this. Podcast was important to me because when i get approached by One of my followers. Who still pino. And maybe they came to one of my talks and says i look up to. You never seen a filipino psychiatrist. I'm like wow. I didn't realize. I sometimes don't think about how impactful that can be to see someone who's just like you up. They're putting yourself out there. Because you're linking earlier there aren't very many filipinos psychiatrists there so that. You've had like wh when we've talked about like looking back what are some takeaways and loic learnings you've had of your own. Experience was south acceptance. And how you're always on this constant journey of it. I i think that's something. Of course a lot of us go through especially when we we self actualize a lot later in her life you'll hear so many stories actually about filipinos who started off like in the medical path and start to self actualize like a lot later. And i think like we actually begin the journey sometimes of self acceptance much later in our lives because we start to look back and realize all these little pieces that made up who we are now but like you talk about this constant journeys so can you tell me about why self acceptance has been such a big takeaway for you and like this acceptance of your culture and this constant journey that you're on So self acceptance. Yeah like it's different. I think we all have a different path that we take that it's never ending for the biggest point. I guess i would like to say is to allow yourself to be vulnerable and explore that. Because like i mentioned it took therapy for me to recognize it. I remember like this one. Psychotherapy ask that. I took that was about accepting your cultural identity and that was huge too so i think a lot of kind of shy away from those types of opportunities but i feel like if you allow yourself to be vulnerable that it could lead to more so a re had recently been invited. I think it was last year to a university and it was about asian american mental health. And i met a lot of a lot of people in the community a lot of professors who are active and do research on this topic. And i thought wow like even when i was talking to them and how late in their life and career and i say late like maybe like twenties thirties forties even so. It's so interesting that people started going through this process when they were older and they all say something similar like. I mentioned the kid who said go back to china so i feel like i'm losing my train of thought but i would say is that we have to just allow ourselves to be vulnerable and learn from each experience that comes our way and kind of accept it. Do you feel like there's still things that your like. Uncovering about yourself and you're like oh wow i'm like all the way here in you know my journey now but like oh years another thing that i'm re earning or needing to accept about myself. Yeah i think a huge part of it frighten now for me is because i have been talking more about mental health and asian communities is being comfortable with it. Because there's this part of me because i'm i'm still in that process of acceptance of it which i accept it but it's a never ending journey but there's this part of me wonders if even credible this question in my mind all the time. But i think we're all credible because i think all of us are just in this constant phase of figuring out so i like credible speaking out a. Yeah that's i feel like always especially like us like this whole concept of syndrome. Not not that. I'm seeing the same thing by just like it's so am i. Am i supposed to be advocating for this. No be the expert of this. I had like using the right acronyms. It still you have so many people listening and it's not because like if she credible or not. It's because when you come out with so much conviction like knowledge with what you're doing and i guess passion with it that almost like makes you like credible gas. Yeah so. I think people appreciate that. Because i think a lot of people probably feel that same way to agree something i always like to ask is if you had like a advice for yourself like in your journey you could choose any point where it maybe like. You could have really used yourself as a big sister where you could really use yourself as active in the ass. I would without be and like what would you tell her out. Gosh may think that's a good question. I think it's hard. Because i'm the oldest oldest. So would i tell myself okay. I'm going to come up with. I'm going to say whatever comes to mind. I kind of what we do in therapy anyway. It's like you say freely what comes in your mind okay. The first thing. I would if i was my i would tell little vanilla that when she was being picked on by that kid in elementary school. That it's okay. She's going to be accepted. She's going to figure it out how she is going to make a difference in the world. She won't feel alone. She'll be able to reach more people and ensure utilize that experience to validate the experiences of others and help them gain strength. That was. I love that at hit accord because like a lot of even if it's not the same experience have had something similar to that and we just needed to know like this is having to your now and it's gonna affect you in some way or confidence your mentality your sense of belonging but it's gonna eventually shape your experience and allow you to be more connected to people so i really love that and then you had a message to send. This is always a really interesting question. They all try to freely associated but the message for like filipino. Women and there's no like context for like what kind of filipino women. I guess like i. I really want to know which audience like you which i guess community you feel yourself poke to speak to that. If you had met the to filipino women. What would it be that. They don't have to be perfect. I think oftentimes a no also in my family like my grandma and my mom just appear so strong. I always remember the first time i ever saw my mom cry. And i remember feeling like wow. My mom cries like she's human so i would have to say because we have so much pressure to be this matriarch with a tough exterior who manages the household. I think that's inherent many of our upbringings like it's okay to be vulnerable. I feel like many of us who grew up with our moms being that way. We didn't learn that it's okay to necessarily cry and be vulnerable because it was viewed as a sign of weakness until we see it happen so that would be something i would say is that it's okay to be vulnerable and i feel like it would bring you closer to your candidates. Oh and one more last thing about filipino. Women is that it's okay to be outspoken. And speak your mind. I think we're often to hold have to be humble and we equate being humble to being quiet. It's possible to be humble and respectful your mind so that is what i would have to say. Yeah i love that because yeah being humble is that something i think we really cherish about ourselves and our culture but it's almost like yet to compromising like outspoken and branding yourself but it's like a both an like why not both. I love that. i'm almost like thinking. Do i wanna ask you any kobe questions. It'd be like we had such a good qadri. I always feel like. I should probably talk about about like i. Don't i don't know like that. I feel like this has been really nice fry. Well you know how you mentioned the covert thing can i. I could mention a positive thing about so speaking of speaking our mind and not being afraid. I teamed up with a group of physicians to talk about how the xenophobia and trying to get people to realize you know. We're just like everybody else were fighting. This fight together in hopes that the message will spread to decrease these discriminatory violent acts the asian community soap. That's gone viral featured in good morning america and all that stuff and it wouldn't have happened unless we thought it would be okay to speak. So yeah. that's a problem you. Can you actually give a little bit more than that. I think i missed that visit. Or was it a video that he posted or the campaign if we posted the video. Maybe like two three weeks ago but it's it until this week that it started spreading to good morning. America's yeah video. Yeah wow good morning. America sheryl sandberg's organization lean in or just like an and it was featured in i think was abc. Something that something another news. Networks tend to catch up a little later like that. Sometimes right not awesome. And you collaborated on that with this organization asian physicians. Yeah very cool nia just to tell us something that people may not know about you. I'm not be on. I feel like you're pretty open online like when you have more personal level is there anything else you wanna share about yourself that you don't get to years so much. Oh my goodness. I'm trying to figure out like i'm trying to say whatever comes to my mind again i am so now i love it. Well my nick. This is like not even to personal at all but my nicknames bon numbers and has that like him bond a and because my name's v. a. n. And like they've always told me on. Yahoo peanuts do that. Oh can i just say one. More thing that people don't know about okay speaking of bonds so so when i graduated in college at uc davis this is my most embarrassing one of my most embarrassing moments. When i got called up to get receive my degree. I can mean so much effort to make sure they save baena right. I made so much effort to write the like the phonetic or whatever they say it so nervous waiting for them to call my name. Please get it right. Please get right so when they called my name. What they said was they said. Do me do not. Even this at all. Didn't even say i made effort. I put santos menopause. Because that's my my lows last name. I was so proud. I was like please stay santos and all they said was woon ni. Ooh now was like. That's something that not that many people know. I think it's funny. I can look at it. It's not on video. And i've never with ironic. But here's the amount of effort that you put to make sure it was closed and it was just like totally butchered. It was mortifying. But i look back at it now. It's on bad like my name. Have like five names in my in my life full name and so i put it all on there for my graduation because i really take pride in that and they like to out of them like of course they're going to put your at least them what is it. Yeah my first and last name is crystal fabella but full is crystal lynn chardonnay. And as of like my filipino grownup escora abella. And so these the ciardi which is like. I've always charge so whatever. That's that's our live because filipinos love to give us some interest end nickname anyways and before we go i ask one question is what is your favorite filipino dish. My favorite filipino. Sing guess and you know why yours. It's interesting 'cause it's cutting edge. It's making me hungry now. Anyways thank you for coming. Thank you so much for this time. I really love talking to you and i feel like you're such a breath of fresh air like the like you exude enthusiasm and passion for what. I've just very amazed and admire bowl. That we have a filipina on this front who is exuding much passion and voice and so i thank you for that thanks so much crystal. It means a lot. Thank you so much for listening. If you haven't yet consider sharing the show on social media we are on instagram. At filipina on the rise. And if you have any questions or direct messages to me. I am crystal to shoot me one and i tend to get to them as much as they can things again. And i'll see you next time for the next filipina on the rise.

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CS Bonus Cross-Post With NightRule Pod: Learned Helplessness

"Hey how's it goin' champagne sharks. This episode is different than usual. Because it's not technically a champagne. Sharks episode had guest starred on another podcast night rule with isaac murdoch. You can follow them on twitter at padro. That's at p. o. d. r. u. l. e. I enjoyed the appearance so much. That actually asked if i could cross post posted onto our feet so if you liked this by all means checkout night rule with isaac murdoch anywhere. You listen to podcasts. Normally just Google it and follow them on twitter at padro amp without further ado. Please enjoy this appearance. Hello friends and welcome to episode eight of night rule. I was beyond thrilled to have a long conversation with t. of champagne sharks Probably my favorite podcast out there. Discussion on culture and politics and psychology and It was extremely enjoyable. So i hope you all can enjoy very much as well One thing we didn't talk too much about that. I wanted to hit on that. We didn't get a chance to so. I will again recommend that you all listen to champagne. Sharks episode three four their discussion on hamilton and The response to it for today's intro will will be listening to the unparalleled brilliance of suck motoyuki than this track is riot in lagos and for the atro- will again listen to some kosher mahoro. The name of this track is dialogue between jill and john so without any further. Ado please turn off the lights. Put on your most comfortable socks. Get in your favorite nestle area and prepare for a wonderful night rule with champagne sharks enjoy responsibly. Trend bold thing. That i the joke was make about Desktops versus laptops is. Is you know. A laptop is is built by pseudo. Slave labor in asia and then a desktop is really just like components made with pseudo slave labor in asia. So he's a lot cheaper. You know the markup they can pick him really mark it up on a laptop for you but if you just buy a pc and build yourself for example because they have the same pseudo slave components is he kind of cut out the middleman you save yourself. A lot of. I've always wanted to Build a desktop. But i've just never gotten around to doing it But i know it's not as hard as a lot of people think Well i remember a friend of mine put really well when he said that all the pieces that that if something doesn't fit it doesn't go there and if it fits it goes there you know like they make themselves really mess it up because like if it snaps in that's where it should go so you just kind of like look and see But actually yeah yeah exactly. I mean because if you think about it like of course that's the way it works right. You look at the different parts like this. Looks like this goes there and you plug it in and what are you know. They design and decided it slip. The parts that fit together are the parts of need to fit together actually had an idea earlier today. This is very like the exact kind of idea. I have on christmas eve. Where i'm like despondent and like anti consumerist It's like i wanna make like a game show started off. I was thinking. Because i i moved my computer recording And i was thinking I only had about ten minutes to do it. But i knew i could do it. You know pretty efficient. That way. And i thought it would. It would be an interesting kind of topa game. Show where you can have this office. Space style satire and then interspersed with game show where like people who actually worked in. It in real life had to assemble computers as quickly as possible in competition with each other. Oh yeah they'll be. That sounds so obvious. I'm shocked it didn't happen. It sounds like a like. I mean it gets. It's not that obvious since no one ever made it when when you say it sounds like oh of course a great show but like if you if you know people that it. I mean. i think really the to make it work. You'd have to have the satirical element you know where you have like with the host would be someone who's just like an annoying boss. Middle management type was just like well. I don't know anything about computers. But i know you guys know how to do this stuff so you know. Go do your thing. I think you're right. I think it has some kind of lowest common denominator element that people can latch onto because like for example that show where people built robots. Even if you're bored by the Robot building technical part you at least enjoy washington. Fight these shoots to site to build Battle bots if that finest television ever put to screen. Yeah it was. It was pretty good even though it got old fast. If you to episodes you were pretty much I really liked that show. But then i tried to watch a binge of okay i gotta get it instantly eventually. These robots whatever is never going to be like an amazing. I think this robot that they have now where they are really creepy and you have legs in the run. I think you can probably get a really long running show off of that. That's interesting. I didn't know crazy looking like dogs. And and Four-legged weird things. But yeah i mean back dynamics robots. Yeah yeah with those that that would be the number one show in america that would be awesome masked singer. Yeah yeah yeah it would be but these things were like broke they were. They were really kind. Got like the idea was great. The idea the constantly group the concept. The concept was amazing and they've really executed it with a lot of gusto. They went all in for sure. Didn't they have the guy from red dwarf hosted gang member. But i mean probably it sounds it. Sounds like if they didn't they should have a good idea. It was very british In case anyone can't tolerate. We've got t. From the champagne sharks podcast on today's tonight's episode of night rule. Episode eight If you haven't listened to champagne sharks. I cannot recommend it enough. It's honestly like probably my favorite podcast right now while so I think you guys have a lot of great discussions on pop culture. A lot of good psychology history Obviously talking about race luck and you may be like For my five listeners. Give them like a quick. A quick intro into your into your show. i'm sure i'm sure By the time this airs a lot more listeners. That people are home on star for content. So so you're not you're logic a time The show is about. It's kinda interesting early conceit but kind of drifted from it. So i'm not even sure what the shows ultimately about We kind of are created to be like a show about raise but that is not like other typical shows about races. I feel like Most popular shows are books about race or kind of written for the white or non black gays. You know depending on who's being covered too explain it to a not white people. Explain it to white people. But the idea is that you know treats White culture and history and everything is the default in normative and is trying to explain Blackness with whiteness is a frame of reference. And we be interesting to do is show. That was explaining White culture and white racism to Non white people and you know challenged challenged the idea that white people are racist or culture lists that you know just like You know default default in normative and and you know give give different Like that. I can't fully say i'm sure that it's kept to that. Original mission pod podcasting as a result profession by nature But i think i think to a large extent for. I think that ethos is still is still there. I mean i i. I'm impressed because you did very much. Start out with that as like a an interrupt. But i'd like a management almost type statement. Because i actually i recently last six months i i went back and listen to your back catalogue from like episode one and it's very rare to listen to a show where it's like episode one. Someone's like this. I'm starting this. It's almost like a statement of principles almost and And you definitely need. I think chief a lot of a lot of really interesting commentary In that realm obviously branching out. And i know you're doing you starting like a few different podcasts or podcast network as well due to give success so it's only natural talking about that long forum conversations will naturally you know expand outwards rights. Yeah yeah yeah i mean. I'm glad reminded me about that because that was like a plan is just we have not been able to figure out the mechanics of how to make that work. Are i think only way could really work. Which is why it hasn't happened yet. Is like adra vanu because if you try to do it with patriots we haven't figured out how to make it work as in a show. Yeah you make a bunch of four different patriot onto the you. Try to put All the all of among one thing and then everyone splits The patriots equally. You know and also figured out how how to do it. So that's the only thing that's kind of Stopped us yeah I hope to have that problem at some point. But i'm disappointed i was. I mean you're still some shows like coming down the pipeline or like at least like being thought about because oh chaz literally interesting voices in like the the show. Oh yeah. I mean one thing wanted to do i would really like to do A female an all in awe woman in all women show but Yeah i mean 'cause 'cause this this is my problem right is that i know a lot of times. You wanna do things. Ideally but if people feel like are they're doing more work than other people or feel like Someone's not pulling their weight or whatever then people get upset or you know like bad classic classic group. Were conundrum yeah. Yeah exactly the minute. How ideally you want to start at. So i wanted to try to make it as conflict proof down the line as as possible. And yeah been what. I'm hoping to happen. I'm hoping someone else does it first. And then You know just. I actually asked them. How did you do it. you know. And then that's In in that said. But we're still. We're still going to try to do it and Yeah with so. We're still going to try to do on. The other thing is to is to get people who are very like minded because i think Not toot our horn. But i think we have a pretty unique View and yeah so so that's basically the deal with that because I feel like there's so much a homogeneous invoices invoices out there. And i don't have to think like us but i think they have to have at least the same intellectual curiosity like i would like diversity thought just as long as you've arrived at diversity of thought by you know being intellectually curious and questioning because You just mind is leaving. Vegetate whatever's going on in your in your scene subculture and you've got whatever ax to grind. It's funny how actual curosity. I mean it's one of the elements and i'm a pessimist. I think i think like my theory history at this point and this is my couch. Potato slacker Worldview but i feel like we're i feel like our culture is now in decline but as it declines. It's going to be along in slow decline over hundreds of years and things are going to get more just and more better it within within that decline. What happens after that you know meter aliens. Whatever we what kind of optimistic because even if you think cultures declining if things are going to get better i feel like that might be worthwhile sacrifice by better. I mean like in terms of equity and justice. Yeah i'm just you know. Eventually people are just going to chill out a little bit and be like you know what we're all gonna. It's all going to hits up soon. So let's just like relax a little bit. Give people some money in you know. Education and healthcare in you know will watch while setbacks when from our beach a decline as stark lapses on sale for whatever it is. Yeah i i can respect that. Because i feel like i feel honestly that That is kind of ultimately optimistic. Because i feel like the optimism. I arrive honestly this year. Yeah i mean. I'm i'm very disturbed with the decline of culture but if i could be convinced that there's a greater good you know that's happening. I can be okay with it because it worthwhile worthwhile sacrifice you know lincoln. I guess my i guess my issues. I'm not convinced that things are getting better. Because i just feel but my is because i'm looking at social media too much and social media is never a good place to find the best of what's happening in humanity any given moment so well and then on that topic actually. I think you'd probably like. Because i just i i've been hearing your commentary about twitter And the various like kind of commentators within that long. Before i joined twitter like a join twitter when i started podcasting but a year and a half ago just to promote the other podcast year and i was quickly kind of shocked at like a how well it kind of plugged into my inner like matrix like i call it like a casino if it was run by the board. So just looking at the analytics of your tweets in the engagement Data just like i personally. It's it's so easy to get caught up in it but just the personalities on there it's really bizarrely like horny platform Resorted horny horny. Yeah yes people just like all kinds. Like i really i reckon. I don't recommend anybody anytime anyone asks. I say don't don't join twitter yet. I'm on like you know a couple of hours. Look it's kind of weird. I'm very pessimistic on it. But i still go on a lot. I've gone on less than i used to. But even in very tweet less. I am still occasionally falling down the rabbit hole or doom scrolling at night. So it's like mean. There's this the problem is that i think he's people on. It is the whole thing fear of missing out where you get worried that Something good gonna happen. You're gonna miss it. And i think you spend more time scrolling nonsense or miami scrolling Than actually do anything meaningful. So it's like The middle ground. I've been trying to go for is to try to only go on to twitter. Were intentionally like if i have a threat. I want to do or if i want to Satellite spent five minutes catching up on the news or or look for commentary on a specific subject. That's happening in the news. And see what people are saying about it. Or d m Different people or check my the try to do that. But i really try to limit The mindless mindless scrolling. I feel like that's where the real toxic stuff to your brain to. Your brain happens but It it absolutely. That's that's a gift we could give ourselves right now to like. Make sure the the month the doom laying the mindless. I mean one thing. I always want one. I made that. I ve always found made. A big difference was never having an conflict notification on my phone that would like any light that Go on and off anything that catch my eye. You know like. If i'm only gonna pick up my phone again with like kind of like what you're saying attention or or with like for reason. Yeah because it's so easy to get like the all the people that design social media are like now like in like rehab clinics in the hills of northern california. Meditating tran to like break. The habit Yeah it is this weird man. Because like i don't want to my own horns two months because i feel like by me describing that you know it sounds nice. It makes it sound more. Like i've been able to achieve it been is actually true. You know what. I mean like i I aim for it. And i forgot moving that direction but i still find myself on a bad day or careless day I the best way to put his fallen off the wagon in like it's a very much like active It's an active project that in progress you know. And i made that clear because i felt like i made myself little to enlighten enlighten. Then yeah has to pass the problem point which. I don't think which. I don't think i am yet like a like i. I try to keep you know what i would say is like you brought up meditation ethics. Exactly like meditation if you've ever Meditated you are trying to keep from popping in your head and you do good for a pretty good amount of time and then suddenly you realize That you've been Going down this internal narrative rabbit hole without realizing it needed to capture stopping. It's like oh. My god i've been thinking about Eurotic stuff to pass thirty thirty seconds to a minute. And you know you catch yourself when you go back to Blanking out your mind relate Intentionally in twitter things. Like that. Where i go a pretty good stretch of following the rules in kashmir salma. God i just Do scrolled for an hour How did it happen window happened. That was just checking my. Dm's you know. Yeah so gifts. I'm gonna. I'm gonna repurpose advice. I gave the kids on a previous podcast so We established on the handkerchief dynasty. Podcast earlier that Not doing drugs isn't cool. Okay for this device for kids is is the segment right. Doing drugs is not cool but talking about doing drugs is very cool so instead of doing drugs to kids you just talk about doing the drugs and i think what we need to do is we need to apply the same principle to twitter okay because it sounds very cool when you're when were both talking about twitter and even even like talking about being addicted to it at you know trying to break the habit of whatnot like kids. Don't go on twitter but still talk to people and tell them you know Was doom scrolling all night last night. It's so blah blah blah blah. You know get that cash shea without any of the the pain. No very very true. Very true. think that's a great thing is a great way way to put it those kind of interesting. The biggest thing that has happened as far as me being able to spend less time in the toxic see. That's twitter is to get badly addicted to another social media platform. I was thinking i in that. Is that progress like among the platform clubhouse now which i find because it's very curated and right now is invite invite only and they have loosely enforced Real name Real name policy that that kind of curbs. A lot of the toxicity. Because it's a voice platform in felix. Trolling and being obnoxious with your voice is a harder threshold in than trolling by text behind the anime avatar. Name stuff like that. So it's it's got is problems but it's okay it's not terrible and eventually constructive conversations but as it grows. I'm starting to realize that it's gonna get more toxic weird and once they open it up to everybody and make it. You know wide open. It's going to be full of like i think you know bots and weird weird profiles and and people would like multiple accounts in trolling. So you know. I hope it. I hope it lasts. I hope it stays okay. But i think ended day like All social media The end goal is to be toxic. Take all your data and sell it in. You know. Make you hate yourself. So the below list seems to start out framed as like some some kind of utopian vision of just like this is how we're all gonna get along in iraq better in the future. Yeah this is going to be the plan for. If it's going to take over all the other ones somehow to. But like i. I mean if that's gonna really happen but like their bits the metastasized in their in their own way and and you know what else you know what else to write is um you know those to is. I think what makes that deception even more appealing is that for short amount of time. They usually is a bliss period or a honeymoon period but any platform. I remember when twitter was net toxic. Yeah and it was just funding jokes. You know before it got and people posit different. Things they say was No the four channels tumbler. People arriving the blue check media people. Everyone everyone's got their apocryphal analysis. Of like what what caused the decline of the roman empire as well. We'll like well know. Know your combination of factors many because the the same way like we asked the question about like a one hundred years ago historians would have asked what caused the The fall thrown remnant of the same. Now we treat the question of what may twitter associated with like the same gravity was it. The four channels was tumblers Visigoths year Yeah that's a great. That's a great analogy another thing. I think they're happens with The roman empire. I think is makes it a great analogy for what you said before about the decline. I like history has a way of just by the way it's presented and written of collapsing. Time in a way that we take for granted so it'll be like yeah and then The be a time line and from eight hundred to five hundred bc decline of rome Five hundred or so. And so. And i'm during arbitrary numbers. I don't know when Agent a i'd say that goes pedantic people who are on twitter and it's actually the roman empire yes sir scher bison teen whatever yeah yeah. Yeah 'cause i. I think it might sound like Well actually remember. After christ then like i'm just throwing numbers so in case don't contact me. Yeah you know like oh five. Hundred to eight hundred. Eighty decline of room eight hundred. Two so-and-so dark ages and then you know it's easy to just kind of think like oh. Wow like so this happened and that happened but then again remind yourself like Doing did years is a pretty long time you now and yet they think about it as in like You think of seventeen twenty two thousand and twenty realize okay. That was You know when you put it in perspective of the modern day you realize okay. That's the equivalent of going from seventeen. Twenty two thousand twenty result say like changes way more gradual back think people giving gradual and and granular. And yeah. but you know you could read all kinds of fascinating like academic papers on know trade networks in during that period of time and others all it's interesting there's different strands. I think there's unfortunately traditionally a very kind of disney disney a fide version of history. That's that's really predominant. I think maybe it just comes down to human nature and people want to organize information. A certain way they want to understand history through like certain roic figures And they don't wear them they issue complexity and nuance but of course. There's all kinds of people out there as well that represent the much the opposite where they're gonna delve into the nuance and complexity. But they are kind of going against the grain. And i feel like it's it's harder and harder for historians like i think i did. I hear this on. I think i heard it on your champagne sharks podcasts. You were talking about how like historians like basically have no respect currently in society at all really. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeh they don. I remember seeing but it came with the context of where we were About you're talking about like a like a sessional Faculty and like oh yeah. Precariousness of academic work and how people were being encouraged your historian branch out and working museum. More like where do tours or do this or that adan. Yeah i really enjoy history But i do think like we've gone to a certain point. Where like for example. Like the most muendane run of the mill kind of dusty like classics. Course that you would have taken twenty thirty years ago And that you know very very like well researched but very like mainstream view of like the historical subject. That's now a podcast. That like for forty million people of listened to in unlike they love it and it's like the good feeling listening to it because you're you're a history and you're listening to your history podcast and like you're not you're not on tiktok or whatever. Yeah you know like a friendly context is really ruined in the rise of content so to the point that even history does still survive as a hobby or whatever in this current content culture is just an accumulation of facts homework. And you have people who you'll talk to and they clearly have been gathering historical facts or anecdotes from different podcasts. And tv shows at bay digest and the context of it is all wonky in ruined and nothing relates to each other in a coherent way or is able to solve this jointed. The wrong lessons are taken from and It's not property. Tied into the modern dates is is just a big a big mess. You know in a big mass with some whimsey kind of wrapped around it kind of you know. Yeah yeah i kinda winky kind of. Oh well you know you know. Do you know Marco polo blah blah blah but like It doesn't even take it that seriously. I mean maybe. I'm being kind of a pretentious ass. I mean certainly would be the first time. But i worry i'm worried that like although there's definitely still people out there i mean just the last episode is just talking with harvey. Jk there's still definitely people out there doing like really interesting work in history And encouraged by that. But i i wanna see that somehow more proliferated out there. Because it's just so much more interesting than getting the kind of the kind of neapolitan ice cream Vir something you said too. I think is interesting. You say being pretentious ask but make let's say you are. It doesn't mean you're wrong. A pretentious has never been right about something like you know I always think that I mean there with everything like sometimes. I'll see something and it's a good point in some won't be like person are reactionary racist right. I'm like well year but on this one thing like there happened to be right like i don't. I'm not gonna read them for their race views. History views but sometimes People just strike on the right conclusion for the right the right reasons. I would argue. I don't think you're being pretentious ass but even if you were it wouldn't change the crank that ferry was one thing you said that i thought was actually really fascinating too. Which is Ends a. I took a couple of couple of philosophy classes way back way back in the day and not really the biggest plato guy but When he said that the content has no context. Or it's like anathema to context. It's kind of disturbing to me. Because like or even someone was like alien or like a marxist would say that like everything every like an object for example is situated within a context. It exists i. It's it's made of like matter. You know it may be may be tied to more ethereal concepts like social relations or metaphysics or whatever in this way or that way or they are someone's ideas idea someone's head but it's situated within a context but if content is is is devoid of context. I mean like. What would plato say about that. You know he would say well. That's what that's what conduct of content. Let's content and if content doesn't have any context. It's just this is a whisper in the air you know. Yeah yeah. I mean that's that's true and also i think i should probably Re examine what. I'm saying to a degree too because I mean well no. I think it's quite apt. Because i mean like if you just take this hodgepodge of Of kind of info. Bits that someone's loaded into their brain and then they spit out in a mixed bag. I mean like. That's what is that other than like a decontextualize dehumanized. Like similac gra of like ideology. Or whatever whatever you wanna call it. It's like not here. Oh no you're absolutely absolutely right. But the part of what. I was saying that I've been thinking about this about how to re frame it but it's still like a thought in progress so i haven't had found answer but I was thinking of in terms of high. Like a lotta times. White people particularly that european or American especially Anglo american because the culture is so dominant across the world anglo american culture like English is everywhere. As a language are a lot of the concept's are everywhere the the jurisprudence jurisprudence model is is everywhere. This idea that people think of wide america white Europe as being especially way as being the absence of culture every other place has a culture but They don't and you know one of the things have our show was kinda say No you guys very much do have a culture. That's as idiosyncratic and Full of positive values and you know exist as any other cultures. Just that it's like the air we breathe so omnipresent that people Don't really notice it when they walk into a room like if you have someone to Described the contents of a of a room. No one's going to say. Oh it's full of of air you know 'cause it take it for granted but if you draw fish out of water air is going to be all that it can notice in. Nc and I've been thinking about context But this is unfinished. Thought so. I don't even really know what the final answer is. But i was. I think it's context list Any more possible than culture listeners. Of course i mean that's that's the way it was just you can't It's something that i remember I don't know if it was a professor or someone said it to me are reading a book at the time. But it's like you can't you can never step outside of history as much as you may want to you know. Yeah it's it's it's a process that is omnipresent exist all around you so you can. You can understand come to increase understanding of things And change your perception changer awareness. But also trying trying to somehow deep complete decontextualize or step outside of histories. A fool's errand. Obviously yeah a exactly so. I'll try to think. Like you know when i say like people have no Context freezing that correctly. Even though i think he gets the point across. I was trying to visit a better way. Yeah know i see what you mean. Because it's it's it's the same kind of thing where there's a false neutrality to it right. Yeah each one kinda. Put that integrate that into the into thinking a little bit. Yeah and i don't know what the final answer is. I'm welcome to any Feedback on that either from you or your listeners. Like that's an example of something you can contact me about. Like i like a lot of times can really good thoughts come from guests Are people podcasts. I guess it on or even You know listeners I've had a lot of thoughts. That i've been stuff that Other people have have a sparks. I'm always welcome to things that i was wondering that. Can you actually have a truly context culture or is it that People just live time of unexamined context like they're creating context but they don't want to let themselves Be consciously aware of them. So they don't have to answer for them more. explain them or question them like Like i think there's a lot of unspoken context that we have now that we Don't allow ourselves to say out loud. Don't allow ourselves to examine too deeply today. We don't have to answer answer for them. And i think that's i think it's i think it's responsible for a lot of psychic ills writ large socially speaking you know i think there's a way i think there's an element to the mind where it it understands to certain extent. This kind of unspoken context nece Rally somehow i mean i honestly i've got a lot of different theories on that front but we probably don't have time for that three conversation but finish your thought. Sorry no i mean what. What you said is pretty much pretty much on on the money. Like i think one good example right is Marc fisher's idea capitalist realism. You know where this idea that On you know about capitalist religion wanna just i. I don't know if i've actually yeah. You should probably remind me. If i if i forgot honest i'll be fair. I haven't read the book myself. I just know the theory from his speeches and stuff i owned. The book could just haven't gotten around to reading your but it's the idea that kasem's sent me a picture of the book to prove your the veracity of your claim credit authority to speak on the steps. Okay so pending that. I mean i mean even stated you a picture of the book i've already issued. I didn't read it. So i still get any credit reminds me of something. My professor told me once. I think al tuesday was in prison for shooting his life for something and someone was interviewing him and he was like look dude. I never even read that much. Marcus barakeh advice. Five like whenever i was just having which is funny. I i only say that just if i butcher anything. People understand not claiming to be a authority and the on the premise. But the way. I understand the premise. Is that Capitalism is so normalized. and it's the only system. Sony people have known for generations. That people literally can't imagine assist or a world outside of it so all their solutions all their whatever. It's kind of like they can't step above the system to look at it from from the outside because they can't even conceptualize a world a world without any caused that capitalist capitalist realism and I was thinking That is right. But i think it might be a symptom of another type of realism. Which is the realism of Everything worth saying everything worth doing. Everything worth discovering and thinking has already happened so people can't imagine a new anything not just capitalism but anything people think that the only thing left to do reserve refine like there's nothing to discover it has nothing to invent. There's nothing I don't think people even think there's even disease even cures leper diseases. I just think people just think we've done everything we can do. Now is just manage refined and yeah. I mean think. It's stretched pretty much pretty much. I mean there's definitely there's a huge element of that in in media tv and film But i think to a certain extent. That's kind of a self serving proposition for a lot of a lot of those types of people. I'm here the but there's also a again. It comes down to like originality of thought versus regionality expression. I mean we probably have neither and a lot of cases on tv. Right now Maybe somewhere expression but again this is. This is why my philosophy of of our culture being in starting along precipitous glacial decline. It gives me comfort. Because i think of Like for example there was I remember the again something. I picked up from history class so there was. The helena had the hellenistic age in egypt so after alexander. The great conquered all of all the parts of asia. Minor the divided up his generals divided it up and then there were the ptolemies in egypt. Which is the dynasty to cleopatra's part of right there were the greek rulers of egypt and they had the great library of alexandria and it was a very literate time And i remember telling me. There's actually there were thousands upon thousands of thousands of novels written around this time In that culture in egypt. And and i was like oh really like i've never heard of any of them is like yeah. Nobody really bothered to hold onto them to any of them because they all they all kind of sucked kinda shitty like it was really poor quality of love writing so that nothing really like nothing was worth keeping. Which is i always thought to myself. I was like man. I wonder if i'm living through that a little bit right now. And i think a lot of the suffer from property to right because i feel like if you believe in that then. I think you used the word self-serving before but i think it's absolutely right like you if the unspoken context and is bringing up as i was trying to say like what i think. People view as a lack of context or a lack of belief is a positive Context or a positive belief. It's it's it's kind of like when someone wants told me when you refuse to make a decision That's not really the absence of a decision. That's a decision in of itself is very much a positive. Aura of the core the bag of gita which. I think you might be familiar with. I'm not sure. I'm not so by all means no say e you can like me but If nightmare later e can it's up to you. I still have to ask him for a start. The procedure i know we might have another fifteen minutes or so. I want i want. I want to be sure. Your wife has a bad signal prepared. Oh yeah yes she. She does if she needs me okay. It'll be fine okay. So you know what let me. Just rep up to start really quick and then You can either informing bag a bag about. I was the big again i think. Yeah yeah yeah you could inform the gita or move onto another topic. But what i was gonna say is. I'm starting to realize that. What i'm calling a lack of context or you know a context this culture. I'm starting to realize that there is a positive value system behind it j- just the same way as the person who makes no decision has made a decision to not act. That's actually is a positive choices. No such thing as a culture this world decision this world a context this world and i'm trying to more evaluated as in what it's probably more that it's not a world of context lewis tongue context in this but world of Deliberately not questioning or examining the context that people are choosing to live like people. I think are very much choosing to live. Unexamined lives and choosing to not let themselves be aware of the context is and we're living because They feel powerless. I think to absolutely yeah yeah. So what's the point of even trying to question or figure it out. Just be too depressing so so like The currently enjoy my star wars. Even if it's not that good you know yeah. Yeah exac- exactly. But i think people are making conscious choices and Conceptual decisions to The agree that you know. Even they're leaving during that appreciating. Yeah it adds up I think it all adds up. I mean I've got so many directions. I could go here. Hold on my mind. My mind is expand like a potato. You're out drug outright. An example right like when people are just and used to words mindlessly. It's the word. I use a lot of people just mindlessly. Doing you know what You know booster as a like star wars and and all these different shows and everything And setting bad about it And using bad because you're You're applying like no context deeper. Thought in say well. This kinda sucks. It ruins the arc of star wars the original intention of lucas. Just give an example Someone will go into your mentions on twitter and be like shh. Let people enjoy things or you know. Stop being a fuddy-duddy or you know stop being a hater and you know i would say oh people that hate context. You know like you know. I'm no that is its own type of context. The context of i have nothing left to enjoy. This doesn't look forward to so i've given up on thinks could be could be better like things can't be you know i i give an example Liberalism are for a long time. I've thought of liberalism centrism and as being devoid of values like you know You know the these people don't believe in anything but if you look at them to get mad at bernie sanders and get mad at trump. They do believe in something like their wishy washing. This is not an emptiness of values Emptiness of believing that things can get better at things. Can things can change. But it's very much a positive belief when the deal will get angry about. That's why i love the term. Someone started saying it. And i don't know if it was tongue in cheek nece that was Accidentally deep or if it was a intentionally deep thought you know or what was intentional struck on accidentally but people started using the term rat liberal greg liberalism or radical centrists and. I think it was meant to be ironic tongue in cheek. They were saying. Oh they don't believe in anything so call them a radical liberal radical. Centrists is like a ironic own. But i think it may actually be Very apt i think they are and can be as radical as you know the worst reaction there staunchest tankeea. That's really interesting I hadn't heard that term before. I think i there actually is I think there's an element there. Because i i i actually think part of that is fueled by a certain segment. The population just being frustrated. That like true centrism is not is not really represented In spite of the fact that we have this kind of bizarre non ideology of neoliberalism the is governing the whole global. I i feel as though wait does come on a non ideology while i mean in terms of i mean i call it that because i think of it. Is you know the government basically looking to business and finance and saying look guys like you just you know you got you got this which i which i was but again again. I mean i'm not saying i call. It's a it's kind of a surrendering to the ideology of another. So i guess it certain. It certainly is an ideology but yes. That's exactly what i mean. The the dilemma. I'm having is it Is it a non ideology you know or is it a positive ideology of it like I'm sure you from. Maybe you're familiar with this Concept in psychology of learned helplessness i think i think it could be something. You can't do that. Like i feel as though because i'm like in my late thirties. Now so i grew up very much. Like a after the nine eleven. Were in iraq. In that era and i feel as though for that generation who grew up With things such as you know the memory of vietnam including the vietnam war protests and that ending and then the end of the cold war it was a much more hopeful. There was much more hopeful kind of zeitgeist to the nineties even with things like kosovo and whatnot And then when when iraq happened and when anyone who is involved in the anti war movement at that time i feel as though basically would have come out of it and say two thousand three two thousand and four feeling like ultimately you know what like we can stop things like destructive regression from happening and we have to. If i i feel like in my gut instinct is that is that that's when people started to turn to say to see okay. Well what can i change. What can i control. What can i. In fact. While i can make this person feel guilty about this or i can. I can focus like you know. Everyone got superfood at that time. Yeah yeah there were million different. Things i mean. Can you spent any span down a little bit. I'm i'm interested. Well i mean because you know if you look at things like You know if you grew up in the eighties. Let's let's say you were born in the eight. Seventy s to mid eighties. You know you would have had your baby. Maybe we were parents who were trying to be nicer than like their par- parents probably were to them. Let's be honest generation. That's just kind of that. Five goes so as long as you didn't have any kind of Like economic issue or other issue affecting your childhood. You probably grew up in a world where you're like okay. Well you know. There's there's still this cold war going on you know. There's red dawn and movies and james bond but like it seems like there's stuff going on and then it's like oh wait though. The cold war is ending. I'll look at that. There's like reagan signing the peace deal and then like shortly thereafter. You know you had arafat and rabin with with clinton you know the nineties and everyone's telling you you're you're you know you're still in school but everyone's is like dude like the world's like looking at things are looking up man you know university and then it's like oh by the way we're just invade this country for their oil and like all these people are going to die and there's nothing no one can do about it. It's like oh okay well. I guess things aren't all that rosy are they guys. Let me let me. She didn't tell me what you think I think this overlap. So what you're saying but It might not but Thing what you think. I remember with francis fukuyama and he had the end of history and everyone kind of this team for getting it wrong and nine eleven was supposed to be the thing that proved them wrong but as time goes on and this is a case where i haven't read the book instead i've read everyone's Summary of the book. So i might be getting his thesis wrong but the longtime goes i think he might have been right as far as describing the dominant mind state in the world. Today you know which is you know. Things can't get better history. I think the idea of end of history is not that different than what. I was thinking of as far as expanding capitalist realism. This idea that all the ideas have been thought. All the conflict have been set in stone. All that remains is to just refining and manage them and no new thoughts no new concepts. Nothing is like i think capital is really distracting and the history or fukuyama is not totally wrong as far as describing the idea of How a lot of people approach approached the world and i think Very much modern liberalism is sense of that but to give it to give an example. i was there was a guy who was talking about again The example of star wars. But this has recently in my head. So that's why i keep bringing it up because recently happened to me. This guy was like. Hey you know People who get worked up over a worker of fiction and get angry Know the worst kind of people Is just a piece of fiction. And is what the should amend lauren. Which i don't even watch right so i wasn't even invested pretty good actually. It's honestly like not bad. I'm surprised how much i like it given but that's a whole nother conversation like it's it's it's not perfect. It's it's it's a little video gaming. There's a lot of fetch quests. yeah. I've heard. I've heard good things about it but i also heard for some reason. There was a finale that some people didn't like and this guy was getting mad at anyone who dare to to vent anything negative about this show but he wasn't even doing get from being passionate about lighten the show he was this idea. It seemed of passion in so he was like. I just wanna watch things that remind me of my childhood and this and that and if you had if you've had any extra dots to the point that you're analyzing and seeing negative things about the show You need to get a life in all this stuff. And then i responded because hans but the actual acution movie i remember being thing i felt it will kind of hacky total a great apathy concept. I thought i just like the world that much. No one is. The shows like something was meaningless. Really because you find the show better. Does that happen. Sometimes yes i did. I found a better. It's very campy. It's like watching serious book. Routes the yeah. I don't mind if it's well done rather well done camping bad prestige so i have no problem here idea that you can. Yeah liano to pain. I'm not gonna to go too far into that. Gresh israel stations. But have you ever seen the The apes tv series anesthesia. Any part of your body. You won't feel number. I got a good actor that i watched all the movies and watch the tv show as well as say we are going to be planet. The apes three and emotional took a generic seventies cliche template and just really yeah. It was a fugitive boarding credible just wandering from town to town except exactly with apes very weird describing is grizzly adams or something like that but yet i mean too much time on the logan's renteria was everyone thinking about. I mean just to kinda tied. What do you think this would have worked as a tv series real enjoyment where you described his mind is how contrary i hits of a contrary opinion anybody Negative about Show someone else. So i want to know about forgot who was it. Was it yaqoob. That wasn't that crazy about. Is that any other closer. Yaqoob stage the show to you. Thank you dislike sucks category. I more likely to start with the criticism man. I don't like this. Could offer. Like i think every time you recommend this movie and i'd like to hear more about it a little bit. It seems like a real time realization. Yeah it is carrie. I i hope i don't have to can't confess. The characters are Check two-dimensional paper-thin The teams is really fleshed out I mean right there's pretty and some landscaping and that's really enjoyable. But they re not worth getting angry. I think so. The man earlier at the movie is angry at the Is the only thing that's good about know. That's the you're sucking okay Elevate your a doctor visit. Because the like i don't know is it. Is it a question of execution multiple. There's multiple moment's movie whereas this like in the chat laughing my ass off. He'll like main character. Would scream out like you're not whatever the the other characters name was or there would be these. These moments are just so played over the top and she would take me to the ocean. City fleet also like orlando show execution or over the top merits. I don't know. I feel like it has to do with them doesn't retain conclusion by the end. Like the way the explicit realizations read. This woman has been a tie basically test subject modern day. She's been manipulate the doctor and the media she like you know she could literally go back to her life with things about and i was like Like reclaimed her health and the angry men and then she chooses not to i. I don't understand anything about this movies and movies to french. I don't watch. This has to step in some sense. There's no going trial which tight if that's something. That was the only thing that kind of like medicine. Like yakub's second choice. She makes the wrong choice. The way the experiment with harvey blonde is just my thing. I'm gonna disagree here liked. It doesn't ask a lot of certain point if acting was okay animals. Think if someone is gonna die. I have no idea how they reacted. I would say no. Maybe he would do these. They would they would. I don't know. I don't know how someone would react when their children. I don't know how they're saying all the fears that came out that troppled. They're told from conversations. It's hard to know how someone in that situation. I'm not saying that you know you're going to take a more open shen. what's going on. What motivates. what's making you behave. Certain behavior certain. And those by guy called as i said earlier. I just like the ending because executive and what's more this. This movie is so drawn out. It's one hundred twenty. Two hours of context. The two are rotated and as i said earlier. Nothing during helplessness and redeeming personality. In them i think the closest thing we get to Some lighthearted moments is like when the guy goes to buy her address and ask them what Say hey a chatty moment helplessness between her and him. There's not like a lot of chemistry. He's literally as well because there's no one else rest and a I'll this time that will. There's no scene in the movie result where the doctors confronts safely establishment which is so great. That has prevented me a has sort of bad actors. That is. I was literally causing this woman. This is never been you or like you know. Confronted in any way in the movie at all day has no long and about wasn't necessarily i actually think that her consults angry. It was like a little bit. But i don't really i don't really get. Oh i don't feel like they need to have like a good ending. Where the bad guys get punished. What happens is the people who have the money or can walk away. Guy gets fired seems like the doctor that one to the doctor is like i said i don't i don't like and batak might have to guessed i agree. It would have been on the more on a lot of the latest. Fucked up helplessness. That's what they like even about those things those things. I think we should have someone who dislikes the movie every time. Because i feel that way reinvigorates the discussion. We even like like stage. At this plant someone likes the mandate would have had some. I liked the movie in spite of those things i do. Critic tightened up okay emotions. But it's i think you're absolutely solid. I just you you to send you know. Yeah yeah. I can actually weren't out any no that it actually just disagree with you like one of those things where even though you had different conclusion than me. You have very valid reasons in my opinion for having that conclusion. That can actually. Sometimes someone disagrees with you know you like oh man you just missed the point range etcetera and this and that and you know. I can't say that. I think they're all very very valid. I did like allowed him to forgive. Flaws that is brought up. I do agree on characterization. Apart the but in my case i think it could have given relax characterization if they just didn't try found now without cramming a bunch after the blind date and that came. That was like what's the point doing now. This was not that moving for most of it like you had a chance to make this movie just catholic priest the have this last part that was making women broke into a second movie you know get some of these brought material. He wants us feel throwing here. Sunday secured him of something like the part where he goes blind. Well you're around the time he goes that line each the husband and and one line of long which which. I didn't think this is bad enough. Cells they just didn't seem to fit into Young the rest of the movie they really feel earned like like. You didn't get me interested in these people are her and up until now that he's relations feel. We're more innovative back in the day. Yeah exactly you give me answers to some things that i wasn't even aware up until now especially yeah. I think this is like this. Is i think it's with execution just slightly off. We put it like this when you get a sanction movie where you try and make it real world and you take too much of a sober approach to you kill a lot of the characterization. That could have occurred because you're focused on being sober too real for impacts. I think that's what happened in. This sitter agency flying cars and all that stuff but just by engineering the movie in a way to make it more realistic to the time period And more sober you free. You miss a lot of opportunities to do character development and other things. 'cause you get stuck more in that also mood setting super cinematography date to the filmmaking as opposed to the characterization and dialogue and i feel like this is just his style and i said earlier on somebody else's style would have presented more and it would have been more More leaving warming in better translated. As i'm putting more of the actual cactus in here and again i wanted to learn to this. I always sub-genre fiction. Speculative fiction doesn't really focused on a lot of the same elements that traditional or general science which focuses on these other typically has the Like you know voice certainly more effectively. Okay well how do i actually get ahead in this detailed. Here's a common characteristics is necessarily on the technology or the time out of plato aspect of more on the sort of the mundane what it might be like in the future servant leadership after the call. One thing i can't agree with the film is well. Example is a welsh film. And he'll ask people. I still can't get over like there's so many things but now he goes blinds idea and she doesn't even lead like bernie. Just carry out that the to the line But the blind leading blind for the rest of the movie they decide come back a reverse bland for life okay is is conditioned because I had to get up to get something of an after the bbc blind right. So i thought the movie was about. And i'm like hurry up and get the came back and i will say i think it's is like a good actor is very bad. Brings back to two thousand and can see came back because he was he was blind. Joe work yeah he just. He was sitting at looking at people. Yes yes thank you for reminding lightning time between about when i got back home because you lied about her sickness. Maybe they lied about permanent. Learn how i'm feeling like Because i think you just line a lot of fun know few hours ago you still their mannerisms your behavior would be that person. I am to sound corny. But i actually thought the reason i shouldn't trim is because he was like. Oh i gave him back his kind of humanity. And i'll be closer together because this is what the whole the directors trying to say if we pursue like a terrible attitudes like loons actual connection to each other objectify each other and he refused that and maybe it brought them closer together. Who have thing That's a fair point. He does do the right thing. So there's no internal conflict on her part this. Let me give just like us go. Her often these decisions when she finds out that it was all a joke. She has like no reaction. They're all so weird. Thank you just like. Oh okay that framework. Yeah i was gonna say one. Good thing i liked about this movie. That probably wouldn't be the same if it was an american taxes. Didn't have any kind of love seeing or anything. Because somehow i think it was american film had to be so. Colonel differ over the top. That was crazy right. Really seen fit into the whole premise of literally. This guy's radio violate lady by. But like i would just put it as one thing. I thought about what you just said about the blind in i think the opposite i think being lies so great around the way Were to it all. It's jarring thing whereas being blind longer. I mean that would be kind of Acclimate gas great more. Thank you so much more like your old self. Because you've learnt to make all the necessary compensation so newness blindness made his matter of fact. I'm more jar. That sounds great and and Definitely the just the way you can navigate room so easily to navigate everything book for the next two or three we use them pretty simple settings and one place who were hiding out in Didn't have any furniture room. And then okay. That is sitting outside and a chair. I think that if you know the story was really truncated as much as it was like booking stations would be very agreed we were given enough time to get more character development and just allow waltzes. Probably we also have a richer vocabulary now be redone. Talk about these issues. And to to give the sort of airing that i think he deserves. Yeah i can agree with that. Like my main my main point you know. I know you guys said earlier that you know you don't need the bad guys you know there's whatever and i don't need that either. I just want to see the conflict. I want to see some kind of conflict between them. I guess in the case of the studio. Like i could imagine like i guess since this is a french from you know as you said earlier you know french. Laws are different. And there's not that american I guess tendency to sue but you know i like in america. That is like that would that if if this was. You know remade as a tv series. That would be a great thing to happen to have the lawsuit event for them to lose to just have the conflict even if the bad guys win just to have it. I think we got a little bit of that when he attacked when the blind man attacked the studio executive at the end I wanted to say that. I think probably and tell me what you guys think. I think there's probably but ten minutes of discussion left you know. So what do you guys think. What do you think there's more meat on that bone like I feel a the coupes that the segment is pretty interesting. So i just want to litigate with your crew for the next ten minutes about Llc the apologised versus team yakult like have team as a team. I sound info here. And i feel like we should the rest of this time. Just play out. You know. See either them can sway the other two Like like you kube as is on infos apoligism. Soften your heart take on this movie at all I feel what the film does well. It does Really well like it is well shot but yeah the actual characterization. The lack of conflict is still unforgivable. I still like the movie. But i am. Okay admitting that Your crew you have swayed me a little more toward the ambivalent side. Even though i still ultimately come down the net effect of of positive and i was wondering Your for anyone else has has slightly shifted their take of. I know that i'm gonna. I'm gonna switch sides completely. Wow deduct kuban stuff like i. I realize now like most of the things that i enjoyed about the movie was because like it was a it was allowing me to think about things that like in phenomenon said that i already like to think about but if i think about like what i learned from it anything like did it. Challenge me. no it just look nice. And they had the the acting wasn't really good. Needed scripting so edison with your doctor your coupon this one. Thank you willie. I have a one question for t- You can answer at the end if you want. Would you recommend this movie to someone else. And i know that roy wants to speak so. I think we should let us be okay. I agree let's let. Let's let raspy because actually after thinking about it anyway. Yes by all means raw go ahead. Thanks i I don't really know how. I felt about the movie after we were done with it. But i am leaning or the end like maybe would not recommend this to Someone but i think what is also at play here is that So many of us are kind of ahead of their time in the thing that they're talking about. I feel like he kind of got that same scenario with video although like still really well done movie where like a lot of concepts or maybe teased out. Better or like feed into media in film that comes later and like makes makes those seems like more real. I think the biggest issue i had with this was the characterization of the characters. Like the the sort of backstory. Like i think it would be better as a tv show In order to like get a bit more exposition and like have a deep relationship with these people outside of dislike in meteorologisy. Find the person. She's about to die and then like all. That stuff happens See i think it was shallow for characterization the themes that it brought up You know are so juicy that it's still is a compelling watch but as a movie probably wouldn't like put at the top of my list to recommend That's interesting long cutting. Come in so yeah by all means Where we came in. Just now. I guess is to Yeah i think. I'm gonna go with what rob was saying You know Disagree great concept right. But how was executed. I guess at the time you know it. It can't be helped. So if i'm judging it like you know based on what was available i would. I would say it's it's it's a good movie in that in that regard but you know in in twenty twenty. I don't know if i would recommend it to someone. Unless i knew that this would be their thing. I would recommend it if somebody was watching several movies on this topic. 'cause i think i find it interesting as part of a pantheon of movies ray and kinda contrasted with other ones. 'cause i do like this kind of genre of movie like own dystopia in reality show Movie if asked to recommend one movie on this you know kind of topic. I would not i would not recommend it So i don't know if that's a cop out answer but i mean it depends on the context i would. I would recommend it as one of a family move of movies if someone said hey. I want to see some movies that you know discuss like you know that oppression and discuss Speculative fiction about reality show in media. I'd be like yeah Here's a tweet these four movies and this be one of them but you know veggies like recommend someone said. I want to see a movie about this. I probably wouldn't. I can think of two or three that i would recommend before this. Can anybody recommend any other Any of the movies that are directed by By this by this one. I don't know who directed it so maybe a good. I mean i mean. I don't know why he directed so maybe a good thing to start with this to read a list of the movies he directed maybe people will find out that they've seen his work before. What's his name again. Better herber his name is burke. His name is bertrand tupper anyway. transylvania So such a frontier did yeah. He did Some ameri awesome stuff that he did in the In the seventies he did a movie called. Let joy reign supreme There was another one that you get called the judge in the assassin spoiled children watch thousand nine hundred and then he also did a week's vacation Director producer for that and man the electric list. Have you seen that. That is actually a really good movie and seeing that he did round midnight which is a mere this year. i actually. We're talking about a couple of days ago on. That's what year was that was eight eighty six round midnight. Grandma night in fact. I was going to do that. for movies for movie club night. It's oh wait a minute. That's the morten. Oh gel shit. Great movie i'm so glad switch back in fact maybe we can Have that next week and have a contrast. This is a problem the source material than script or visit the director. 'cause i lost i haven't seen in probably over a decade but it's a very. I remember very strongly as a good as a good movie. So dexter gordon is actually in this film. Yes dexter gordon live jazz. Musician is the leading this film. And it's about a jazz musician. Who is very self destructive alcoholic and whatever who of goes to france also interesting because it touches on a lot of the ways that french people have viewed themselves on race as being more of a lot of black intellectuals and people kind of thought of france as a place that had evolved passed on racism so in some ways even though the movies good. I think watching get now part of look. A little bit naive knows far as how you bob. The french are on race but it was a common view at the time that black people felt less persecuted and hated in france. then america. yeah yeah and right. You mentioned the electric missed that that. That was a a yeah. Please talk about that year in the electric mist if like set in new orleans like a dreamy realism magic realism vibes. Also murder mystery I feel like there's some southern like it developed shit. It's been a couple of years. So i watched it But it was very weird like it's it's it's Commonly jones allied but surprised. This is the same same that i mean. Also i mean that was Eighty six was around midnight and in the electric. Mrs two thousand nine so he might just improved as a director like nineteen eighty is Tw- nineteen twenty nine years before the the electric mess. Yes he might have evolved a lot. I never heard of in the electric mess. But i'd like to look at it. Post katrina new. Orleans is really interesting And this is total side. No but Dexter gordon my favorite. There's gordon albums go so if anybody wants to just listened to dexter gordon's music before watching the movie. Not that it's important. But if i just want to point out the guy's a very good jazz musician That ended up playing a jazz musician. For some reason. I feel like it's my magic nation. But i feel like somehow helps the performance the fact that us not just. It's like danny glover paying the road. There's something about a real deal. Jazz musician Playing the role. He's not just like faking the fingering on the instruments. And whatever and the attitude is something about Such a real deal jazz musician isolate adds to the authentic of the movie. Nobody will address fake trumpet. What what's that two people wants. I wasn't able to. I was going to say that. I heard the A similar Take on like a movie where the actor had actually been like a boxer for some amount of time. Mickey rourke that might have been. It might have been the actor. I can't remember what the movie was called. Yeah you see that The the clint eastwood movie on. Charlie parker i did but i was very young at the time and i feel like i need to watch it with adult is before i can say because i'm actually i'm sorry. Did you ever take on it. No no no no i. I've never seen it before. My dad used to hate on it because he said he just didn't really like the portrayal of charlie parker being drug addict but he was a drug addict yet. But part of the problem is clint. Eastwood is a big jazz fan. He's also a racist republican. And because of that that makes me look like knowing what i know about clint eastwood. Now i feel like i wouldn't be surprised if he highlighted the salacious Aspects of it to a degree. But like like you said the salacious aspects were real. I mean even in places. Like miles davis autobiography. He makes a big Big point of like drug addiction wasn't a minor part of charlie parker's life. Let's say that. Now yeah yeah. But i mean. There are similar complaints about Malcolm x. where people felt malcolm x. Spent way too much time on his pre His pre muslim life. And what we'll say about malcolm maximum movie. When i eventually did read the book you have no idea how much time is covered in the first half of the malcolm x. Burs the second half until you read the book in start realizing. Oh wait a minute. That first half was basically the span of a couple years but the second half was like several decades doesn't do a good job of Kind of pacing. You kinda think that to me. The movie feels like it Takes place in just ten years time you know and and move at even pays whereas he really condenses the latter part of martin's life and and i got and i feel going off of memory. 'cause this is not fresh so take it with a grain of salt. I feel that maybe what your dad was. Picking up with the charlie parker movie is that a kind of the same thing with charlie parker's drug addiction where it kind of expanded to the point that it condenses and crams the musical thing to And doesn't give it enough room to breathe. You know what i mean. Yeah yeah that makes sense indeed So any final. Any final thoughts on on this movie. Anyone nells Changed her mind. There moved down the spectrum from actually the other way around anyone disliked the movie and like a little bit more after the group discussion still firmly in the camp. I mean it's a flawed movie. Many seventies movies are actually a regular feature of those movies. But i think what what they try to do medically and you know the often times the points that they make. I think really strong. And i know people had issues with the acting in this movie. But i'm i'm at a bit of a loss with that. I mean harry dean stanton harvey tell max von sydow. I mean i thought league character. Perhaps me she wasn't the greatest. But i thought you know those three characters and they're acting was the strong as strong as they typically. Are anyone else yet. Also add that i. I think they tried. You know in like so much stuff that i watch nowadays. It's like not even a little bit of effort is put in. So you know even though like i i wouldn't recommend it. I still enjoyed watching it. Yeah i mean. I will say this if someone wants to watch a movie on netflix. Even i haven't seen yet if someone told me. I wanna watch his new movie on netflix. Or watch this. I would definitely recommend it without even seeing with the netflix movie is like i agree with you. There i think much better than Like i wouldn't say. I was compared to where we usually watch. It might be on the weaker side but Compared to what's out there in general especially today it's Could be a lot worse. Agreed flawed but in my is good. Yeah okay so. I'm going to ended their. Thanks everyone as usual for people who are listening anytime you want to join in on our book club and movie nights there usually friday night at eight for the book club. Saturday night at eight. Put a movie night and you know sometimes we were a little bit earlier or later but we usually talk about into discord voice and chat server so if you have not been using the discord voice and chat server Definitely sign up for if you're a patron or reach out to us on patriotic via dm and we'll get you sorted out so thanks everyone for joining us and we'll do it again. Next week take care.

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"Hey how's it goin' champagne sharks. This episode is different than usual. Because it's not technically a champagne. Sharks episode had guest starred another podcast night rule with isaac. Murdoch you can follow them on twitter at padro that's at p. o. d. r. u. l. e. I enjoyed the appearance so much. That actually asked if i could cross post posted onto our feet so if you liked this all means checkout night rule with isaac murdoch anywhere. You listen to podcasts normally just Google it and follow them on twitter at padro amp without further ado. Please enjoy this appearance. Hello friends and welcome to episode of knife rule. I was beyond thrilled to have a long conversation with t. of champagne sharks. Probably my favorite podcast out there. Discussion on culture and politics and psychology and It was extremely enjoyable. So i hope you all can enjoy very much as well One thing we didn't talk too much about that. I wanted to hit on that. We didn't get a chance to so. I will again recommend that you all listen to champagne. Sharks episode three four their discussion on hamilton and The response to it for today's intro will will be listening to the unparalleled brilliance of suck motoyuki than this track is riot in lagos and for the atro- will again listen to some kosher mahoro. The name of this track is dialogue between jill and john so without any further. Ado please turn off the lights. Put on your most comfortable socks get nestled in your favorite nestle area and prepare for a wonderful night rule with champagne sharks enjoy responsibly. Trend bold thing. That i the joke was make about Desktops versus laptops is. Is you know. A laptop is is built by pseudo. Slave labor in asia and then a desktop is really just like components made with pseudo slave labor in asia. So he's a lot cheaper. You know the markup they can pick him really mark it up on a laptop for you but if you just buy a pc and build yourself for example because they have the same pseudo slave components is he kind of cut out the middleman you save yourself. A lot of. I've always wanted to Build a desktop. But i've just never gotten around to doing it But i know it's not as hard as a lot of people think Well i remember a friend of mine put really well when he said that all the pieces that that if something doesn't fit it doesn't go there and if it fits it goes there you know like they. They make themselves at really mess. It up because like if it's snaps in that's where it should go so you just kind of like look and see But actually yup. Yeah exactly. I mean because if you think about it like of course that's the way it works right. You look at the different parts like this. Looks like this goes there and you plug it in and what are you know. They design and decided it. The parts that fit together are the parts of need to fit together actually had an idea earlier today. This is very like the exact kind of idea. I have on christmas eve. Where i'm like despondent and like anti consumerist It's like i wanna make like a game show started off. I was thinking. Because i i moved my computer recording And i was thinking I only had about ten minutes to do it. But i knew i could do it. You know pretty efficient. That way. And i thought it would. It would be an interesting kind of topa game. Show where you can have this office. Space style satire and then interspersed with game show where like people who actually worked in. It in real life had to assemble computers as quickly as possible in competition with each other. Oh yeah they'll be. That sounds so obvious. I'm shocked it didn't happen. It sounds like a like. I mean it gets. It's not that obvious since no one ever made it when when you say it sounds like oh of course a great show but like if you if you know people that it. I mean. i think really the to make it work. You'd have to have the satirical element you know where you have like with the host would be someone who's just like an annoying boss. Middle management type was just like well. I don't know anything about computers. But i know you guys know how to do this stuff so you know. Go do your thing. I think you're right. I think it has some kind of lowest common denominator element that people can latch onto because like for example that show where people built robots. Even if you're bored by the Robot building technical part you at least enjoy washington. Fight these shoots to site to build Battle bots if that finest television ever put to screen. Yeah it was. It was pretty good even though it got old fast. If you to episodes you were pretty much I really liked that show. But then i tried to watch a binge of okay. I gotta get it instantly eventually. These robots whatever. It's never going to be like an amazing. I think this robot that they have now where they are really creepy and you have legs in the run. I think you can probably get a really long running show off of that. That's interesting. I didn't know crazy looking like dogs. And and Four-legged weird things. But yeah i mean back dynamics robots. Yeah yeah with those that that would be the number one show in america that would be awesome masked singer. Yeah yeah yeah it would be but these things were like broke they were they were really got like the idea was great. The idea the constantly group the concept. The concept was amazing and they've really executed it with a lot of gusto. They went all in for sure. Didn't they have the guy from red dwarf hosted gang member. But i mean probably it sounds it. Sounds like if they didn't they should have a good idea. It was very british In case anyone can't tolerate. We've got t. From the champagne sharks podcast on today's tonight's episode of night rule. Episode eight If you haven't listened to champagne sharks. I cannot recommend it enough. It's honestly like probably my favorite podcast right now while so I think you guys have a lot of great discussions on pop culture. A lot of good psychology history Obviously talking about race luck and you may be like For my five listeners. Give them like a quick. A quick intro into your into your show. i'm sure i'm sure By the time this airs The a lot more listeners. That people are home on star for content. So so you're not you're logic at a time Yeah the show is about. It's kinda interesting early conceit but kind of drifted from it. So i'm not even sure what the shows ultimately about but We kind of are created to be like a show about raise but that is not like other typical shows about races. I feel like Most popular shows are books about race or kind of written for the white or non black as you know Depending on who's being covered too explain it to not white people expected to white people but the idea is that you know treats white culture and history and everything is the default in normative and is trying to explain Blackness with whiteness is a frame of reference and we be interesting to do is show that was explaining white culture and white racism to Non white people and you know challenged challenged the idea that white people are racist or culture lists that you know just like You know default default in normative and and you know give give different Takes like that. I can't fully say. I'm sure that it's kept to that. Original original mission pod podcasting as a result profession by nature But i think i think to a large extent for. I think that ethos is still is still there. I mean i i. I'm impressed because you did very much. Start out with that as like a an interrupt. But i'd like a management almost type statement. Because i actually i recently last six months i i went back and listen to your back catalogue from like episode one and it's very rare to listen to a show where it's like episode one. Someone's like this. I'm starting this is almost like a statement of principles almost and And you definitely need. I think chief a lot of a lot of really interesting commentary In that realm obviously branching out. And i know you're doing you starting like a few different podcasts or podcast network as well due to give success so it's only natural conversation about that long forum conversations will naturally you know expand outwards rights. Yeah yeah yeah i mean. I'm glad reminded me about that because that was like a plan is just we have not been able to figure out the mechanics of how to make that work. Are i think only way it really work. Which is why it hasn't happened yet. Is like adra vanu because if you try to do it with patriots we haven't figured out how to make it work as in a show. Yeah you make a bunch of four different patriot onto the you. Try to put All the all of among one thing and then everyone splits The patriots equally. You know and all that stuff figured out how how to do it. So that's the only thing that's kind of Stopped us yeah I i hope to have that problem at some point. But i'm disappointed i was. I mean you're still some shows like coming down the pipeline or like at least like being thought about because oh chaz interesting voices in like the the show. Oh yeah. I mean one thing wanted to do i would really like to do A female an all in awe woman in all women show but Yeah i mean 'cause 'cause this this is my problem right is that i know a lot of times. You wanna do things. Ideally but if people feel like are they're doing more work than other people or feel like Someone's not pulling their weight or whatever then people get upset or you know like bad classic classic group. Were conundrum yeah. Yeah exactly the minute. How ideally you want to start at. So i wanted to try to make it as conflict proof down the line as as possible. And yeah. i've been. I'm hoping to happen. I'm hoping someone else does it first. And then You know just. I actually asked him. How did you do it. you know. And then that's In in that said. But we're still. We're still going to try to do it and Yeah with so. We're still going to try to do on. The other thing is to is to get people who are very like minded. 'cause i think Not toot our horn. But i think we have a pretty unique View and yeah so so that's basically the deal with that because I feel like there's so much a homogeneous invoices invoices out there. And i don't have to think like us but i think they have to have at least the same intellectual curiosity like i would like diversity of thought just as long as you've arrived at diversity of thought by you know being intellectually curious and questioning because You just mind is leaving. Vegetate whatever's going on in your in your scene subculture and you've got some whatever ax to grind. It's funny how actual curosity. I mean it's one of the elements and i'm a pessimist. I think i think like my theory history at this point and this is my couch. Potato slacker Worldview but i feel like we're i feel like our culture is now in decline but as it declines. It's going to be long in slow decline over hundreds of years and things are going to get more just and more better it within within that decline. What happens after that you know meter aliens. Whatever we what kind of optimistic because even if you think cultures declining if things are gonna get better. I feel like that might be worthwhile sacrifice better. I mean like in terms of equity and justice. Yeah i'm just you know. Eventually people are just going to chill out a little bit and be like you know what we're all gonna. It's all going to hits up soon. So let's just like relax a little bit. Yeah people some money in you know. Education and healthcare in you know will watch while setbacks when from our beach a decline as stark lapses on sale for whatever it is. Yeah i i can respect that because i feel like i feel honestly that That is kind of ultimately optimistic. Because i feel like the optimism. I arrive honestly this year. Yeah i mean. I'm i'm very disturbed with the decline of culture but if i could be convinced that there's a greater good you know that's happening. I can be okay with it because it worthwhile worthwhile sacrifice you know lincoln. I guess my i guess my issues. I'm not convinced that things are getting better. Because i just feel but my promise because i'm looking at social media too much and social media is never a good place to find the best of what's happening in humanity any given moment so well and then on that topic actually. I think you'd probably like. Because i just i i've been hearing your commentary about twitter And the various like kind of commentators within that long. Before i joined twitter like a join twitter when i started podcasting but a year and a half ago just to promote the other podcast year and i was quickly kind of shocked at like a how well it kind of plugged into my inner like matrix like i call it like a casino if it was run by the board so just looking at the analytics of your tweets in the engagement Data i personally. It's it's so easy to get caught up in it but just the personalities on there it's really bizarrely like horny platform Resorted horny horny. Yeah yes people just like all kinds. Like i really i reckon. I don't recommend anybody anytime anyone asks. I say don't join twitter yet. I'm on like you know a couple of hours. Look it's kind of weird. I'm very pessimistic on it. But i still go on a lot. I've gone on less than i used to. But even in very tweet less. I am still occasionally falling down the rabbit hole or doom scrolling at night. So it's like mean. There's this the problem is that i think he's people on. It is the whole thing fear of missing out where you get worried that Something good gonna happen. You're gonna miss it. And i think you spend more time scrolling nonsense or miami scrolling Than actually do anything meaningful. So it's like The middle ground. I've been trying to go for is to try to only go on to twitter. Were intentionally like if i have a threat. I want to do or if i want to Satellite spent five minutes catching up on the news or or look for commentary on a specific subject. That's happening in the news. And see what people are saying about it. Or d m Different people or check my the try to do that. But i really try to limit The mindless mindless scrolling. I feel like that's where the real toxic stuff to your brain to. Your brain happens but It it absolutely. That's that's a gift we could give ourselves right now to like make sure the the month the doom scrolling the mindless i mean one thing i always want one change made that i ve always found made. A big difference was never having an conflict notification on my phone that would like any light that Go on and off anything that catch my eye. You know like. If i'm only gonna pick up my phone again with like kind of like what you're saying attention or or with like for reason. Yeah because it's so easy to get like the all the people that design social media are like now like in like rehab clinics in the hills of northern california. Meditating tran to like break the habit it is this weird man because like i don't want to my own horns two months because i feel like by me describing that you know it sounds nice. It makes it sound more. Like i've been able to achieve it been is actually true. You know what. I mean like i I aim for it. And i forgot moving that direction but i still find myself on a bad day or a careless day What's the best way to put his fallen off the wagon in like it's a very much like active It's an active project that in progress you know. And i made that clear because i felt like i made myself little to enlighten enlighten. Then yeah has to pass the problem point. Which i don't think i which i don't think i am yet like a like i. I try to keep you know what i would say is like you brought up meditation ethics. Exactly like meditation if you've ever Meditated you are trying to keep from popping in your head and you do good for a pretty good amount of time and then suddenly you realize That you've been Down this internal narrative rabbit hole without realizing it needed to capture stopping. It's like oh. My god i've been thinking about Eurotic stuff to pass thirty thirty seconds to a minute. And you know you catch yourself when you go back to Blanking out your mind relate Intentionally in twitter things. Like that. Where i go a pretty good stretch of following the rules in kashmir salma. God i just Do scrolled for an hour How did it happen window happened. That was just checking my. Dm's you know. Yeah so gifts. i'm gonna. I'm gonna repurpose some advice. I gave the kids on a previous podcast so We established on the handkerchief dynasty. Podcast earlier that Not doing drugs isn't cool for this device for kids is is the segment right. Doing drugs is not cool but talking about doing drugs is very cool so instead of doing drugs to kids you just talk about doing the drugs and i think what we need to do is we need to apply the same principle to twitter okay because it sounds very cool when you're when were both talking about twitter and even even like talking about being addicted to it at you know trying to break the habit of whatnot like kids. Don't go on twitter but still talk to people and tell them you know Was doom scrolling all night last night. It's so blah blah blah blah. You know get that cash shea without any of the the pain. No very very true. Very true. think that's a great thing is a great way way to put it those kind of interesting. The biggest thing that has happened as far as me being able to spend less time in talk sec- that's twitter is to get badly addicted to another social media platform. I was thinking i in that. Is that progress like among the platform clubhouse now which i find because it's very curated and right now is invite invite only and they have loosely enforced Real name Real name policy that that kind of curbs. A lot of the toxicity. Because it's a voice platform in felix. Trolling and being obnoxious with your voice is a harder threshold and than trolling by text behind the anime avatar. Name stuff like that. So it's it's got is problems but it's okay. It's not terrible individually constructive conversations but as it grows. I'm starting to realize that it's gonna get more toxic weird and once they open it up to everybody and make it you know wide open is going to be full of like i think you know bots and weird weird profiles and and people would like multiple accounts in trolling. So you know. i hope it. I hope it lasts. I hope it stays okay. But i think ended day like All social media The end goal is to be toxic. Take all your data and sell it in. You know. Make you hate yourself. So the below list seems to start out framed as like some some kind of utopian vision of just like this is how we're all gonna really get along and interact better in the future. Yeah this is going to be the plan for. If it's going to take over all the other ones somehow to. But like i. I mean if that's gonna really happen but like their bits the metastasized in their in their own way and and you know what else you know what else to write is um you know those to is. I think what makes that deception even more appealing is that for short amount of time. They usually is a bliss period or a honeymoon period but any platform. I remember when twitter was net toxic. Yeah and it was just funding jokes. You know before it got and people posit different. Things they say was No the four channels tumbler. People arriving the blue check media will everyone. Everyone's got their apocryphal analysis of like what what caused the decline of the roman empire as well. We'll like well know. Know your combination of factors many because the the same way like we asked the question about like a one hundred years ago historians would have asked what caused the The fall thrown remnant of the same. Now we treat the question of what may twitter associated with like the same gravity was it. The four channels was tumblers Visigoths year Yeah that's a great. That's a great analogy another thing. I think they're happens with The roman empire that i think is makes it a great analogy for what you said before about the decline. I like history has a way of just by the it's presented and written of collapsing time in a way that we take for granted. So it'll be like yeah and then The be a time line and then from eight hundred to five hundred decline of rome Five hundred or so. And so. And i'm during arbitrary numbers. I don't know when Agent a i'd say that goes pedantic people who are on twitter and it's actually the roman empire yes sir scher bison teen whatever yeah yeah. Yeah 'cause i. I think it might sound like Well actually remember. After christ then like i'm just throwing numbers so in case don't contact me. Yeah you know like oh five. Hundred to eight hundred. Eighty decline of room eight hundred. Two so-and-so dark ages and then you know it's easy to just kind of think like oh. Wow like so this happened and that happened but then again remind yourself like Doing did years is a pretty long time you now and yet they think about it as in like You think of seventeen twenty two thousand and twenty realize okay. That was You know when you put into perspective of the modern day realize okay. That's the equivalent of going from seventeen. Twenty two thousand twenty result say like changes way more gradual back think people giving gradual and and granular. And yeah. but you know you could read all kinds of fascinating like academic papers on know trade networks in during that period of time and others all it's interesting there's different strands. I think there's unfortunately traditionally a very like kind of disney disney a fide version of history. That's that's really predominant. I think maybe it just comes down to human nature and people want to organize information. A certain way they want to understand history through like certain roic figures And they don't wear them they issue complexity and nuance but of course. There's all kinds of people out there as well that represent the much the opposite where they're gonna delve into the nuance and complexity. But they are kind of going against the grain. And i feel like it's it's harder and harder for historians like i think i did. I hear this on. I think i heard it on your champagne sharks podcasts. You were talking about how like historians like basically have no respect currently in society at all really. Oh yeah yeah yeah. Yeh they don. I remember seeing but it came with the context of where we were About you're talking about like a like a sessional Faculty and like oh yeah. Precariousness of academic work and how people were being encouraged. Oh you know you're historian branch out and working museum more like where do tours or do this or that adan. Yeah i really enjoy history But i do think like we've gone to a certain point. Where like for example. Like the most muendane run of the mill kind of like classics. Course that you would have taken twenty thirty years ago And that you know very very well researched but very like mainstream view of the historical subject. That's now a podcast. That like for forty million people of listened to in unlike they love it and it's like the good feeling listening to it. Because you're you're a history and you're listening to your history podcast and like you're not you're not on tiktok or whatever. Yeah you know like a friendly context is really ruined in the rise of content so to the point that even history does still survive as a hobby or whatever in this current content culture is just an accumulation of facts homework. And you have people who you'll talk to and they clearly have been gathering historical facts or anecdotes from different podcasts. And tv shows at bay digest and the context of it is all wonky in ruined and nothing relates to each other in a coherent way or is able to solve this jointed. The wrong lessons are taken from and It's not property. Tied into the modern dates is is just a big a big mess. You know in a big mess with some whimsey kind of wrapped around it kind of you know. Yeah yeah i kinda winky kind of. Oh well you know you know. Do you know Marco polo blah blah blah but like It doesn't even take it that seriously. I mean maybe. I'm being kind of a pretentious ass. I mean certainly would be the first time. But i worry. I'm worried that like all the there's definitely still people out there. I mean just the last episode is just talking with harvey. Jk still definitely people out there doing like really interesting work in history And encouraged by that. But i i wanna see that somehow more proliferated out there. Because it's just so much more interesting than getting the kind of the kind of neapolitan ice cream Vir something you said too. I think is interesting. You say being pretentious ass but make let's say you are. It doesn't mean you're wrong. A pretentious has never been right about something. Like you know I think that I mean there with everything. Like sometimes. I'll i'll see something and it's a good point in some won't be like person are reactionary racist right. I'm like well year but on this one thing like there happened to be right like i don't. I'm not gonna read them for their race views or history views but sometimes People just strike on the right conclusion for the right the right reasons. I would argue. I don't think you're being pretentious ass but even if you were it wouldn't change the pitch that ferry was one thing you said that i thought was actually really fascinating too. Which is Ends a. I took a couple of couple of philosophy classes way back way back in the day and not really the biggest plato guy but When he said that the content has no context. Or it's like anathema to context. It's kind of disturbing to me. Because like or even someone was like alien or like a marxist would say that like everything every like an object for example is situated within a context. It exists i. It's it's made of like matter. You know it may be may be tied to more ethereal concepts like social relations or metaphysics or whatever in this way or that way or they are someone's ideas idea someone's head but it's situated within a context but if content is is is devoid of context. I mean like. What would plato say about that. You know he would say well. That's what that's what combat content let's content and if content doesn't have any context. It's just this is a whisper in the air you know. Yeah yeah. I mean that's that's true and also i think i should probably Re examine what. I'm saying to a degree too because I mean well no. I think it's quite apt. Because i mean like if you just take this hodgepodge of of kind of info. Bits that someone's loaded into their brain and then they spit out in a mixed bag. I mean like that's what is that other than like a decontextualize dehumanize like similac gra ideology or whatever. Whatever you wanna call it. It's like not here. oh no. You're absolutely absolutely right. But the part of what. I was saying that I've been thinking about this about how to re frame it but it's still like a thought in progress so i haven't had found answer but I was thinking of in terms of high. Like a lotta times. White people particularly that european or American especially Anglo american because the culture is so dominant across the world anglo american culture like English is everywhere. As a language are a lot of the concept's are everywhere the jerk jurisprudence jurisprudence model is is everywhere. This idea that people think of wide america white Europe as being especially way as being the absence of culture every other place has a culture but They don't and you know one of the things have our show was kinda say No you guys very much do have a culture. That's as syncretic and Full of positive values and you know exist as any other cultures. Just that it's like the air we breathe so omnipresent that people Don't really notice it when they walk into a room like if you have someone to Described the contents of a of a room. No one's going to say. Oh it's full of of air you know 'cause it take it for granted but if you draw fish out of water air is going to be all that it can notice in. Nc and I've been thinking about context But this is unfinished. Thought so. I don't even really know what the final answer is. But i was. I think it's context list Any more possible than culture looseness. Of course i mean that's that's the way it was just you can't It's something that i remember I don't know if it was a professor or someone said it to me are reading a book at the time. But it's like you can't you can never step outside of history as much as you may want to you know. Yeah it's it's it's a process that is omnipresent exist all around you so you can. You can understand come to increase understanding of things And change your perception changer awareness but ultimately trying trying to somehow deep complete decontextualize or step outside of histories. A fool's errand. Obviously yeah y- exactly. So i'll try to think like you know when i say like people have no Context freezing that correctly. Even though i think he gets the point across. I was trying to think of visit a better way. Yeah know i see what you mean. Because it's it's it's the same kind of thing where there's a false neutrality to it right. Yeah each one kinda. Put that integrate that into the into thinking a little bit. Yeah and i don't know what the final answer is. I'm welcome to any Feedback on that either from you or your listeners. Like of something you can contact me about. Like i like a lot of times can really good thoughts come from guests. are people podcasts. I guess it on or even You know listeners I've had a lot of thoughts. That i've been stuff that Other people have have a sparks. I'm always welcome to things that i was wondering that. Can you actually have a truly context on culture or is it that People just live. Time of unexamined context like They're creating context but they don't want to let themselves Be consciously aware of them. So they don't have to answer for them more. explain them or question them like Like i think there's a lot of unspoken context that we have now that we Don't allow ourselves to say out loud. Don't allow ourselves to examine too deeply today. We don't have to answer answer for them. And i think that's i think it's i think it's responsible for a lot of psychic ills writ large socially speaking you know i think there's a way i think there's an element to the mind where it it understands to certain extent. This kind of unspoken context nece Ex rally somehow. I mean i honestly i've got a lot of different theories on that front but we probably don't have time for that three hour conversation but finish your thought. Sorry no i mean what. What you said is pretty much pretty much on on the money. Like i think one good example right is Marc fisher's idea capitalist realism. You know where this idea that On you know about capitalist religion wanna just i. I don't know if i've actually yeah. You should probably remind me if i if i forgot his. I'll be fair. I haven't read the book myself. I just know the theory from his speeches and stuff i owned. The book could just haven't gotten around to reading your but it's the idea that kasem's sent me a picture of the book to prove your the veracity of your claim credit authority to speak on the steps. Okay so pending that. I mean i mean even stated you a picture of the book i've already issued. I didn't read it. So i still get any credit reminds me of something. My professor told me once. I think al tuesday was in prison for shooting his life for something and someone was interviewing him and he was like look dude. I never even read that much. Marcus barks okay advice. Five like whenever i was just having is which is funny. I i only say that. Just that if i butcher anything. People understand not claiming to be a authority and the under premise. But the way. I understand the premise. Is that Capitalism is so normalized and it's the only system so people have known for generations that literally can't imagine assist or a world outside of it so all their solutions all their whatever. It's kind of like they can't step above the system to look at it from from the outside because they can't even conceptualize a world a world without any caused that capitalist capitalist realism and I was thinking That is right. I think it might be a symptom of another type of realism which is the realism of Everything worth saying everything worth doing. Everything worth discovering and thinking has already happened so people can't imagine a new anything not just capitalism but anything people think that the only thing left to do reserve refine like there's nothing to discover it has nothing to invent. There's nothing I don't think people even think there's even disease even cures for diseases. I just think people distinct we've done everything we can do now is just manage refined and yeah. I mean think. It's stretched pretty much pretty much. I mean there's definitely there's a huge element of that in in media tv and film But i think to a certain extent. That's kind of a self serving proposition for a lot of a lot of those types of people. I'm here the but there's also again it comes down to like originality of thought versus regionality expression. I mean we probably have neither and a lot of cases on tv. Right now Maybe somewhere expression but again this is. This is why my philosophy of of our culture being in starting along precipitous glacial decline. It gives me comfort. Because i think of Like for example there was a member of the again. something. I picked up from history class so there was the helena had the hellenistic age in egypt so after alexander the great conquered all of all the parts of asia minor the divided up his generals divided it up and then there were the ptolemies in egypt. Which is the dynasty to cleopatra's part of right there were the greek rulers of egypt and they had the great library of alexandria and it was a very literate time And i remember telling me. There's actually there were thousands upon thousands of thousands of novels written around this time In that culture in egypt. And and i was like oh really like i've never heard of any of them is like yeah. Nobody really bothered to hold onto them to any of them because they all they all kind of sucked kinda shitty like it was really poor quality of love writing so that nothing really like nothing was worth keeping. Which is i always thought to myself. I was like man. I wonder if i'm living through that a little bit right now. And i think a lot of the suffer from property to right because i feel like if you believe in that then. I think you used the word self-serving before but i think it's absolutely right like you if the unspoken context and is bringing up as i was trying to say like what i think. People view as a lack of context or a lack of belief is a positive Context or a positive belief. It's it's it's kind of like when someone wants told me when you refuse to make a decision That's not really the absence of a decision. That's a decision in of itself is very much positive. Aura of the core the bag of gita which. I think you might be familiar with. I'm not sure. I'm not so by all means no e you can like me but If nightmare later e can it's up to you. I still have to ask him for. I know i can start the procedure. I know we might have another fifteen minutes. Or so. I want i want. I want to be sure. Your wife has a bad signal prepared. Oh yeah yes she. She does if she needs me okay. It'll be fine okay. So you know what let me. Just rep up to start really quick and then You can either informing bag a bag about. I was the again i think. Yeah yeah yeah you could inform in the gita or move onto another topic. But what i was gonna say is. I'm starting to realize that. What i'm calling a lack of context or you know a context this culture. I'm starting to realize that there is a positive value system behind the j just the same way as the person who makes no decision has made a decision to not act. That's actually is a positive choices. No such thing as a culture this world decision this world a context this world and i'm trying to more evaluated as in what it's probably more that it's not a world of context lewis tongue context in this but world of Deliberately not questioning or examining the context that people are choosing to live like people. I think are very much choosing to live. Unexamined lives and choosing to not let themselves be aware of the context in which you're living because They feel powerless. I think to absolutely yeah yeah. So what's the point of even trying to question or figure it out. Just be too depressing so so like The currently enjoy my star wars. Even if it's not that good you know yeah. Yeah exac- exactly. But i think people are making conscious choices and Conceptual decisions to The agree that you know. Even they're not that leaving during that appreciating yeah. It adds up I think it all adds up. I mean I've got so many directions. I could go here. Hold on my mind. My mind is expand like a potato. You're out drug outright. An example right like when people are just and used to words mindlessly. It's the word. I use a lot of people just mindlessly. Doing you know what You know booster as a like disney star wars and and all these different shows and everything and setting bad about it And using bad because you're You're applying like no context deeper. Thought in say well. This kinda sucks. It ruins the arc of star wars the original intention of lucas. Just give an example Someone will go into your mentions on twitter and be like shh. Let people enjoy things or you know. Stop being a fuddy-duddy or you know stop being a hater and you know i would say oh people that hate context. You know like you know. I'm no that is its own type of context. The context of i have nothing left to enjoy. This doesn't look forward to so i've given up on thinks could be could be better like things can't be you know i i give an example Liberalism are for a long time. I've thought of liberalism centrism as being devoid of values like you know You know the these people don't believe in anything but if you look at them the get mad at bernie sanders and get mad at trump. They do believe in something like their wishy washing. This is not an emptiness of values. it's emptiness of believing that things can get better at things. Can things can change but yeah it's very much a positive belief when the deal will get angry about. That's why i love the term. Someone started saying it. And i don't know if it was tongue in cheek nece that was Accidentally deep or if it was a intentionally deep thought you know or what was intentional struck on accidentally but people started using the term rat liberal greg liberalism or radical centrists and. I think it was meant to be ironic tongue in cheek. They were saying. Oh they don't believe in anything so call them a radical liberal radical. Centrists is like a ironic. But i think it may actually be Very apt i think they are and can be as radical as you know the worst reaction there staunchest tankeea. That's really interesting I hadn't heard that term before. I think i there actually is I think there's an element there. Because i i i actually think part of that is fueled by a certain segment. The population just being frustrated. That like true centrism is not is not really represented In spite of the fact that we have this kind of bizarre non ideology of neoliberalism the is governing the whole the whole global. I feel as though wait does come on a non ideology while i mean in terms of i mean i call it that because i think of it. Is you know the government basically looking to business and finance and saying look guys like you just you know you got you got this which i which i was but again again. I mean i'm not saying i call. It's a it's kind of a surrendering to the ideology of another. So i guess it certain. It certainly is an ideology but yes. That's exactly what i mean. The the dilemma. I'm having is it Is it a non ideology you know or is it a positive ideology of it like I'm sure you from. Maybe you're familiar with this Concept in psychology of learned helplessness i think i think it could be something. You can't do that. Like i feel as though because i'm like in my late thirties. Now so i grew up very much. Like a after the nine eleven. Were in iraq. In that era and i feel as though for that generation who grew up With things such as you know the memory of vietnam including the vietnam war protests and that ending and then the end of the cold war it was a much more hopeful. There was much more hopeful kind of zeitgeist to the nineties even with things like kosovo and whatnot And then when when iraq happened and when anyone who is involved in the anti war movement at that time i feel as though basically would have come out of it and say two thousand three two thousand and four feeling like ultimately you know what like we can stop things like destructive wars of aggression from happening and we have to. If i i feel like in my gut instinct is that is that that's when people started to turn to say to see okay. Well what can i change. What can i control. What can i. In fact. While i can make this person feel guilty about this or i can. I can focus like you know. Everyone got superfood at that time. Yeah yeah there were million different. Things i mean. Can you spent any span down a little bit. I'm i'm interested. Well i mean because you know if you look at things like You know if you grew up in the eighties. Let's let's say you were born in the eight. Seventy s to mid eighties. You know you would have had your baby. Maybe we were parents who were trying to be nicer than like their par- parents probably were to them. Let's be honest generation. That's just kind of that. Five goes so as long as you didn't have any kind of Like economic issue or other issue affecting your childhood. You probably grew up in a world where you're like okay. Well you know. There's there's still this cold war going on you know. There's red dawn and movies and james bond but like it seems like there's stuff going on and then it's like oh wait though the cold war's ending i'll look at that. There's like reagan signing the peace deal and then like shortly thereafter. You know you had arafat and rabin with with clinton you know the nineties and everyone's telling you you're you're you know you're still in school but everyone's is like dude like the world's like looking at things are looking up man you know university and then it's like oh by the way we're just invade this country for their oil and like all these people are going to die and there's nothing no one can do about it. It's like oh okay well. I guess things aren't all that rosy are they guys. Let me let me. She didn't tell me what you think I think this overlap. So what you're saying but It might not but Thing what you think. I remember with francis fukuyama and he had the end of history and everyone kind of this team for getting it wrong and nine eleven was supposed to be the thing that proved them wrong but as time goes on and this is a case where i haven't read the book instead i've read everyone's Summary of the book. So i might be getting his thesis wrong but the long times goes i think he might have been right as far as describing the dominant mind state in the world. Today you know which is you know. Things can't get better history. I think the idea of end of history is not that different than what. I was thinking of as far as expanding capitalist realism. This idea that all the ideas have been thought. All the conflict have been set in stone. All that remains is to just refining and manage them and no new thoughts no new concepts. Nothing is like i think capital is really distracting and the history or fukuyama is not totally wrong as far as describing the idea of How a lot of people approach approached the world and i think Very much modern liberalism is sense of that but to give it to give an example. i was there was a guy who was talking about again The example of star wars. But this has recently in my head. So that's why i keep bringing it up because recently happened to me. This guy was like. Hey you know People who get worked up over a worker of fiction and get angry Know the worst kind of people Is just a piece of fiction. And should amend lauren which i don't even watch right so i wasn't even invested pretty good like not bad. I'm surprised how much i like it given but that's a whole nother conversation like it's not. It's not perfect. It's it's it's a little video gaming point. There's a lot of fetch quests. Yeah i've heard. I've heard good things about it but i also heard for some reason. There was a finale that some people didn't like and this guy was getting mad at anyone who dare to to vent anything negative about this show but he wasn't even doing get from being passionate about lighten the show he was this idea. It seemed a passion in so he was like. I just wanna watch things that. Remind me of my childhood and this and that and if you had if you've had any extra dots to the point that you're analyzing and seeing negative things about the show You need to get a life in all this stuff. And then i responded because barred hans but the actual acution movie. I remember being thing i felt it will kind of hacky. Total was a great apathy concept. I thought i just like world vision. That much no one is. The shows like something was meaningless. Really because you find the show better. Does that happen. Sometimes yes i did. I found a better. It's very campy like watching serious. Book routes the yeah. I don't mind if it's well done rather well done camping bad prestige so i have no problem here idea that you can. Yeah liano to pain. I mean. I'm not don't to go too far into that. Gresh israel stations. But have you ever seen the The apes tv series anesthesia. Any part of your body. You won't feel number. I got a good actor that i watched all the movies and watch the tv show as well as we are going to be planet. The apes three and emotional took a generic seventies for tv. Show template and just really yeah. It was a fugitive boarding credible incredible just wandering from town to town except exactly with apes. There is a very weird describing is grizzly adams or something like that. But yet i mean too much time on the logan's renteria was everyone thinking about. I mean just to kinda tied. What do you think this would have worked as a tv series real enjoyment where you described. His mind is how contrary i hits of a contrary opinion. Anybody negative about Show someone else. So i want to know about forgot who was it was it yeah kube. That wasn't that crazy about. Is that any other closer. Yaqoob stage the show to you. Thank you dislike sucks category. I more likely to start with the criticism man. I don't like this. Could offer. Like i think every time you recommend this movie and i'd like to hear more about it a little bit. It seems like a real time realization. Yeah it is carrie. I i hope i don't have to can't confess. The characters are Check two-dimensional paper-thin The teams is really fleshed out I mean right there's some pretty and some landscaping and that's really enjoyable. But they re kronos not worth getting angry. I think so. The man earlier at the movie is angry at the It is the only thing that's good about know. That's the you're sucking okay Elevate your a doctor visit. Because the like i don't know is it. Is it a question of execution multiple. There's multiple moment's movie whereas this in the chat laughing my ass off he'll like main character would scream out like you're not whatever the the other characters name was or there would be these. These moments are just so played over the top and she would take me to the ocean before also like orlando show execution or over the top merits. I feel like it has to do with them doesn't retain conclusion by the end like the way The explicit realizations read. This woman has been a tie basically test subject modern day. She's been manipulate the doctor and the media just see like you know she could literally go back to her life with things about and i was like Like reclaimed her health and the angry men and then she chooses not to i. I don't understand anything about this movies and movies to french. I don't watch. This has to step in some sense. There's no going trial which tight if that's something. That was the only thing that kind of like sites. Like yakub's dominican choices. She makes the wrong choice. The way the experiment with harvey blond act. It's just my thing. I'm gonna disagree here liked. It doesn't ask a lot of certain point if acting was okay animals. Think if someone is gonna die. I have no idea how they reacted. I would say no. Maybe he would do these. They would they would. I don't know. I don't know how someone would react when their children. I don't know how they're saying it. All the fears that came out that troppled told from conversations. It's hard to know how someone in that situation. I'm not saying that you know you're going to take a more open ocean And what's going on. What motivates what's making. You behave certain. What's making you behave. Certain and those by guy called as i said earlier i just like the ending because executive and what's more this. This movie is so drawn out. It's one hundred twenty. Two hours of context. The two are rotated and as i said earlier. Nothing during helplessness and redeeming personality. In them i think the closest thing we get to Some lighthearted Moments is like when the guy goes to buy her address and ask them what Say hey a chatty moment helplessness her and him. There's not like a lot of chemistry. He's literally as well because there's no one else rest and a I'll just this time that will. There's no scene in the movie result where the doctors confronts safely establishment which is so great. That has prevented me a has sort of bad actors. That is. I was literally causing this woman. This is never been you better or console like confronted in any way in the movie at all day has no long and about wasn't necessarily i actually think that her consults angry. It was like a little bit. But i don't really i don't really get. Oh i don't feel like they need to have like a good ending. Where the bad guys get punished. What happens is the people who have the money or can walk away. Guy gets fired seems like over but the doctor that one to the doctor is like. I said i don't i don't like and batak might have to guessed i agree. It would have been more on a lot of been fucked up helplessness. That's what they like even about those things those things. I think we should have someone who dislikes the movie every time. Because i feel that way. Reinvigorates the discussion. We even like like stage at this plant. Someone likes the. I would have had some. I liked the movie site of those things. I do critic tightened up okay emotions. But it's actually solid. I just you you to send you know. Yeah yeah. I can't actually weren't out any no that it actually just disagree with you like one of those things where even though you had a different conclusion than me. You have very valid reasons in my opinion for having that conclusion. That can actually. Sometimes someone disagrees with you know you like. Oh man you just missed the point range etcetera and you know i can't say that i think they're all very very valid. I did like allowed him to forgive. Flaws that is brought up. I do agree on characterization part but in my case i think it could have relax characterization if they just didn't try found now without cramming a bunch after the blind date and that came that was like. What's the point doing now. This was not that moving for most of it like you had a chance to make this movie just catholic priest the have this last part that was making women broke into a second. You know. Get some of these brought material. He wants us. Feel throw in here. Sunday secured him of something like the part where he goes blind. Well you're around the time he goes that line each the husband and and one line of long which is which. I didn't think this is bad enough. Cells they just didn't seem to fit into Young the rest of the movie they really feel earned like like. You didn't get me interested in these. People are her and up until now that these relations feel we're more innovative back in the day. Yeah exactly you. Give me answers to some things that i wasn't even aware up until now especially yeah. I think this is like this. I think this is. I think it's listings execution just slightly off. We put it like this when you get a sanction movie where you try and make it real world and you take too much of a sober approach to you kill a lot of the characterization. That could have occurred because you're focused on being sober too real for impacts. I think that's what happened in this sitter nc flying cars and all that stuff but just by engineering the movie in a way to make it more realistic to the time period And more sober you free. You miss a lot of opportunities to do character development and other things. 'cause you get stuck more in that also mood setting super cinematography tate aspects of filmmaking as opposed to the characterization and dialogue and i feel like this is just his style and i said earlier on somebody else's style would have presented more and it would have been more More leaving warming in better translated. As i'm putting more of the actual cactus in here and again. I wanted to learn mentoring. This was always sub-genre fiction. Speculative fiction doesn't really focused on a lot of the same elements that traditional or general science which focuses on these other typically has the Like you know voice certainly more effectively. Okay well how do i actually get ahead in this detailed. Here's a common characteristics is necessarily on the technology or the time out of plato aspect of more on the sort of the mundane what it might be like in the future servant leadership after the call. One thing i can't agree with the film is well. Example is a welsh film. And he'll ask people. I still can't get over like there's so many things. But now he goes blinds idea and she doesn't even lead like bernie just hear him out that to the line But the blind leading blind for the rest of the movie they decide come back a reverse bland for life okay is is conditioned because I had to get up to get something of an after the bbc blind right. So i thought the movie was about. And i'm like hurry up and get about the came back and i will say i think it's is like a good actor is very bad brings back to. You can see came back. Because he was he was blind. Joe yeah he was just. He was sitting at looking at people. Yes yes thank you for reminding lightning time between about when i got back home because you lied about. Her sickness. Elida back permanent. Learn how i'm feeling like Because i think you just line a lot of fun know few hours ago you still their mannerisms your behavior would be that person. I am mad corny. But i actually thought the reason i shouldn't trim is because he was like. Oh i gave him back his kind of humanity. And i'll be closer together because this is what the whole the directors trying to say if we pursue like a terrible attitudes like loons actual connection to each other objectify each other and he refused that. And maybe it brought them closer together. Who have thing That's a fair point. He does do the right thing. So there's no internal conflict on her part this. Let me give just like us go. Her often these decisions when she finds out that it was all a joke. She has like no reaction. They're all is so weird. Thank you just like. Oh okay that framework. Yeah i was gonna say one. Good thing i liked about this movie. That probably wouldn't be the same if it was an american taxes. Didn't have any kind of love or anything. Because somehow i think it was american film had to be so. Colonel differ over the top. That was crazy right. Really seen fit into the whole premise of literally. This guy's radio violate lady by but Like i would just put it as one thing. I thought about what you just said about the blind in i think the opposite i think being lies so great around the way Were to it all. It's jarring thing whereas being blind longer. I mean that would be kind of Acclimate gas great more. Thank you so much more like your old self. Because you've learnt to make all the necessary compensation so newness blindness made his matter of fact. I'm more jar. Sounds great and and Definitely the just the way week can navigate room so easily to navigate everything book for the next two or three we use was pretty simple settings and one place who were hiding out in Didn't have any furniture room. And then okay. That is sitting outside and a chair. I think that if you know the story was really truncated as much as it was like booking stations would be very agreed we were given enough time to get more character development and just allow waltzes. Probably we also have a richer vocabulary now be redone said talk about these issues and to to give the sort of airing that i think he deserves. Yeah i can agree with that. Like my main my main point you know. I know you guys said earlier that you know you don't need the bad guys you know there's whatever and i don't need that either. I just want to see the conflict. I want to see some kind of conflict between them. I guess in the case of the studio. Like i could imagine like i guess since this is a french from you know as you said earlier you know french. Laws are different. And there's not that American I guess tendency to sue. But you know. I like in america. That is like that. Would that if if this was. You know remade as a tv series. That would be a great thing to happen to have the lawsuit event for them to lose to just have the conflict even if the bad guys win just to have it. I think we got a little bit of that when he attacked when the blind man attacked the studio executive at the end I wanted to say that. I think probably and tell me what you guys think. I think there's probably but ten minutes of discussion left You know so. What do you guys think. What do you think there's more meet me on that bone like I feel a the coupes that the segment is pretty interesting. So i just want to litigate with your coup next ten minutes about Llc the apologised versus team yakult like team hoover as a team. I sound info here. And i feel like we should the rest of this time. Just play out. You know. See either them can sway the other two Like like you kube as any of ice on infos apoligism Soften your heart take on this movie at all I feel what the film does well. It does Really well like it is well shot but yeah the actual characterization. The lack of conflict is still unforgivable. I still like the movie. But i am. Okay admitting that Your crew you have swayed me a little more toward the ambivalent side. Even though i still ultimately come down the net effect of positive and i was wondering Your for anyone else has has slightly shifted their take on. I know that i'm gonna. I'm gonna switch sides completely. Wow deduct kuban stuff like i. I realize now like most of the things that i enjoyed about the movie was because like it was a it was allowing me to think about things that like in phenomenon said that i already like to think about but if i think about like what i learned from it anything like did it. Challenge me. no it just look nice. And they had the the acting wasn't really good. Needed scripting so edison with your doctor your coupon this one. Thank you willie. I have a one question for t- You can answer at the end if you want. Would you recommend this movie to someone else. And i know that roy wants to speak so. I think we should let us be okay. I agree let's let. Let's let raspy because actually after thinking about it anyway. Yes by all means raw go ahead. Thanks i I don't really know how. I felt about the movie after we were done with it. But i am leaning towards the end like maybe would not recommend this to Someone but i think what is also at play here is that So many of us are kind of ahead of their time in the thing that they're talking about. I feel like he kind of got that same scenario with video although like still really well done movie where like a lot of concepts or maybe teased out. Better or like feed into media in film that comes later and like makes makes those seems like more real. I think the biggest issue i had with this was the characterization of the characters. Like the the sort of backstory. Like i think it would be better as a tv show In order to like get a bit more exposition like have a deeper relationship with these people. Outside of dislike in meteorologisy find the person she's about to die and then like all that stuff happens See i think it was shallow for characterization the themes that it brought up You know are so juicy that it's still is a compelling watch but as a movie probably wouldn't like put at the top of my list to recommend That's interesting long cutting. Come in so yeah by all means Where we came in. Just now. I guess is to Yeah i think. I'm gonna go with what rob was saying You know Disagree great concept right. But how was executed. I guess at the time you know it. It can't be helped. So if i'm judging it like you know based on what was available i would. I would say it's it's it's a good movie in that in that regard but you know in in and twenty twenty. I don't know if i would recommend it to someone. Unless i knew that this would be their thing. I would recommend it if somebody was watching several movies on this topic. 'cause i think i find it interesting as part of a pantheon of movies ray and kinda contrasted with other ones. 'cause i do like this kind of genre of movie like own dystopia in reality show Movie if add to recommend one movie on this you know kind of topic. I would not i would not recommend it So i don't know if that's a cop out answer but i mean it depends on the context i would. I would recommend it as one of a family move of movies if someone said hey. I want to see some movies that you know discuss like you know that oppression and discuss Speculative fiction about reality show in media. I'd be like yeah Here's a tweet these four movies and this'll be one of them but you know veggies like recommend someone said. I want to see a movie about this. I probably wouldn't. I can think of two or three that i would recommend before this. Can anybody recommend any other Any of the movies that are directed by By this by this one. I don't know who directed it so maybe a good. I mean i mean. I don't know why he directed so maybe a good thing to start with this to read a list of the movies he directed maybe people will find out that they've seen his work before. What's his name again. Better herber his name is burke. His name is bertrand tupper anyway. transylvania So such a frontier bit. Yeah he did Summary awesome stuff that he did in the In the seventies he did a movie called let joy reign supreme There was another one that you get called the judge in the assassin spoiled children watch nine hundred eighty and then he also did a week's vacation Director producer for that and man the electric list. Have you seen that. That is actually a really good movie and seeing that he did round midnight which is a mere this year. i actually. We're talking about a couple of days ago on. That's what year was that was eight eighty six round midnight. Grandma night in fact. I was going to do that. for movies for movie club night. It's oh wait a minute. That's the morten. Oh gel great movie. I'm so glad. Switch back in fact. Maybe we can Have that next week and have a contrast. This is a problem the source material than script or visit the director. 'cause i lost i haven't seen in probably over a decade but it's a very. I remember very strongly as a good as a good movie. So dexter gordon is actually in this film. Yes dexter gordon. Jazz musician is the leading this film. And it's about a jazz musician. Who is very self destructive alcoholic and whatever who can go to france also interesting because it touches on a lot of the ways that french people have viewed themselves on race as being more. You know a lot of a lot of black intellectuals and people kind of thought of france as a place that had evolved passed on racism so in some ways even though the movies good i think watching it now some parts of improperly. Look a little bit naive knows far as how you bob. The french are on race but it was a common view at the time that black people felt less persecuted and hated in france. then america. yeah yeah and right. You mentioned the electric missed that that. That was a a yeah. Please talk about that year in the electric mist if like in new orleans like a dreamy realism magic realism vibes. Also murder mystery I feel like there's some southern like shit. It's been a couple of years. So i watched it But it was very weird like it's it's it's Commonly jones allied but surprised. This is the same same that i mean. Also i mean that was Eighty six was around midnight and in the electric. Mrs two thousand nine so he might just improved as a director like nineteen eighty is Tw- nineteen twenty nine years before the the electric mess. Yes he might have evolved a lot. I never heard of in the electric. Let to look at it. Post katrina new. Orleans is really interesting And this is total side. No but Dexter gordon my favorite. There's gordon albums go so if anybody wants to. Just listen to dexter gordon's music before watching the movie. Not that it's important. But if i just want to point out the guy's a very good jazz musician That ended up playing a jazz musician. For some reason. I feel like it's my magic nation. But i feel like somehow helps the performance the fact that us not just. It's like danny glover paying the road. There's something about a real deal. Jazz musician Playing the role. He's not just like faking the fingering on the instruments. And whatever and the attitude is something about Such a real deal jazz musician isolate adds to the authentic of the movie. Nobody will address fake trumpet. What what's that two people wants. I wasn't able to. I was going to say that. I heard the A similar Take on like a movie where the actor had actually been like a boxer for some amount of time. Mickey rourke that might have been. It might have been the actor. I can't remember what the movie was called. Yeah did you see that The the clint eastwood movie on. Charlie parker i did but i was very young at the time and i feel like i need to watch it with adult is before i can say because i'm actually i'm sorry. Did you ever take on it. No no no no i. I've never seen it before. My dad used to hate on it because he said he just didn't really like the portrayal of charlie parker being drug addict but he was a drug addict yet. But part of the problem is clint. Eastwood is a big jazz fan. He's also a racist republican. And because of that that makes me look like knowing what i know about clint eastwood. Now i feel like i wouldn't be surprised if he highlighted the salacious Aspects of it to a degree. But like like you said the salacious aspects were real. I mean even in places. Like miles davis autobiography. He makes a big Big point of like drug addiction wasn't a minor part of charlie parker's life. Let's say that. Now yeah yeah. But i mean. There are similar complaints about Malcolm x. where people felt malcolm x. Spent way too much time on his pre His pre muslim life. And what we'll say about malcolm maximum movie. When i eventually did read the book you have no idea how much time is covered in the first half of the malcolm x. Burs the second half until you read the book in start realizing. Oh wait a minute that first half was basically the span of a couple years. Second half was like several decades. He doesn't do a good job of Kind of pacing. You kinda think that to me. The movie feels like it Takes place in just ten years time you know and and move at even pays whereas he really condenses the latter part of martin's life and and i got and i feel going off of memory. 'cause this is not fresh so take it with a grain of salt. I feel that maybe what your dad was. Picking up with the charlie parker movie is that a kind of the same thing with charlie parker's drug addiction where it kind of expanded to the point that it condenses and crams the musical thing in And doesn't give it enough room to breathe. You know what i mean. Yeah yeah that makes sense indeed So any final. Any final thoughts on on this movie. Anyone nells Changed her mind. There moved down the spectrum from actually the other way around anyone disliked the movie and like a little bit more after the group discussion still firmly in the camp. I mean it's a flawed movie. Many seventies movies are actually a regular feature of those movies. But i think what what they try to do medically and you know the often times the points that they make. I think really strong. And i know people had issues with the acting in this movie. But i'm a bit of a loss with that. I mean harry. Dean stanton harvey hotel. Max von sydow. I mean i thought league character. Perhaps me she wasn't the greatest. But i thought you know those three characters and they're acting was the strong as strong as they typically. Are anyone else yet. Also add that i. I think they tried. You know in like so much stuff that i watch nowadays. It's like not even a little bit of effort is put in. So you know even though like i i wouldn't recommend it. I still enjoyed watching it. Yeah i mean. I will say this if someone wants to watch a movie on netflix. Even i haven't seen yet if someone told me. I wanna watch his new movie on netflix. Or watch this. I would definitely recommend it without even seeing with the netflix movie is like i agree with you. There i think much better than Like i wouldn't say. I was compared to where we usually watch. It might be on the weaker side but Compared to what's out there in general especially today it's Could be a lot worse. Agreed flawed but in my is good. Yeah okay so. I'm going to ended their. Thanks everyone as usual for people who are listening anytime you want to join in on our book club and movie nights there usually friday night at eight for the book club. Saturday night at eight. Put a movie night and you know sometimes we were a little bit earlier or later but we usually talk about into discord voice and chat server so if you have not been using the discord voice and chat server Definitely sign up for. If you're a patron or reach out to us on patriotic via the m and we'll get you sorted out so thanks everyone for joining us and we'll do it again. Next week take care.

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Eucs a new source of graphene

The Science Show

04:32 min | 1 year ago

Eucs a new source of graphene

"So to our third bright idea in this innovative science show how to get graphene the wonder material made of ultra thin carbon out of gum trees the bark make distinguished professor Suresh Baga from our mit university who's been working with colleagues from India what tiny amount of graphing out and they got the highest prize now you're talking about doing something that can be scaled up on the industrial level not as strong it so long such a number of amazing properties the only restriction of not using graphene but rubin what is important to observe here is the using of this green chemistry is wonderful things it is biodegradable in in today's modern technologies cost because business always looking for reducing the cost so by using these Eucalyptus Bach in Australia he could produce the graphene from fifty cents per gram which is amazing reductions in the cost fifty cents per gram as opposed to what one of the way are you from an application on the industry yeah then me disclose our intellectual property to the world then who so these guys are culminating with us and they said that India also a lot of countries and India is particularly very good in the organic chemistry. I'm a very strong advocate of taking mind to the marketplace and what about the different sorts of species of gum to you you getting the right product are we getting the quality product because the Graphene is a twentieth century materials it can be used for many applications revolutionary and it opens the gate in fact is a floodgate of many applications. I'm way to get your gums from any gum tree or any any dumpty gums author quite expensive if you look back at the beginning when the two scientists from Manchester the Russians actually used a seller tape obviously together Vanu on the highest quality of graph you can get one hundred dollars per it has all those relevant properties what is needed for graphing can be defined for that using innovation graphing from gum trees and Griffin can be used as he this week in powerful filters for water systems and many other applicants made you look at gum trees for source of graphene how did it happen sometimes the trial of simple things produce amazing results this is one of the exam the GAM country is doing to reducing victory would is the main ingredient in the eucalyptus bark which is doing jobs once we identify with that species different applied before the any of them will do yeah now the country has the phenolic groups in there and those have reducing properties the first question of why main component who is doing the job then the process can become lot more compact distinguished professor Suresh Baga now our mighty university with a surprise matters when denby identify the mechanisms which we published a paper we published the paper in the Journal of sustainable and Environmental Chemistry having published the paper how far patty good so he told me that I want to use the eucalyptus bark so when the graph is Kenya Lab can characterize advisors so it is in the process the research has been done we want to establish the mechanisms of that exactly what the mechanisms are we also find out what other breeding species can do the same no jobs this coach better jobs and most importantly what I'm thinking instead of using a largescale bark of extraction can I expect the drops of the it is up to the industry venture capitalist to come forward to test whether it can be scaled up they scale up things are lot of industries. India's are contacting Mike Albert beyond a lot of people are also talking to Meena Staley as now the question is can mutate to the pilot scale to the commercial skills and then probably would goes he's they have in union so they use the bark of the country over there and then they just crash it boiled it otherwise if you reduce the governor excited that other addiction chemical goes through some in nearly one hundred dollars programs so he's a drastic reduction of the cost to hundreds of the cost tornado the cost some people I mean depending on what quality of.

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Episode 31: Kodak: Missing the Moment

The Great Fail

27:30 min | 4 d ago

Episode 31: Kodak: Missing the Moment

"Support for this podcast comes from goldman sachs what goldman sachs experts and leading thinkers have to say about trends shaping markets industries and the global economy. Stay informed with latest insights from goldman sachs on the economic and market implications of covid nineteen available on our podcasts at yahoo dot com slash covid nineteen or any of your favorite podcast platforms like kodak those inventions get locked in the quarter of were the best shut up. Do your job now to episode thirty. One of the great fail a podcasts. That examines the greatest success. Stories and they're spectacular fails would lead to the demise of the most prolific people brands and companies. I'm your host. Deborah chen and this week will be looking at the eastman kodak company. The year was nine thousand. Nine hundred seventy five and it was the moment that stephen sassan presented his invention to the executives at eastman kodak a young engineer then he was tasked with figuring out the charge coupled device otherwise known as digital imaging could have any purpose or use in photography. It turned out to be a simpler project than he thought assassin while working on the project assemble contraption the size of a toaster oven that could save images using electronic currents that were then stored digitally onto a cassette tape and by attaching the device to a tv screen would allow viewers to see images in fact thirty images displayed within twenty three seconds. It was absolutely remarkable and in that moment sassan an employee at kodak unveiled to its senior executives. The world's first digital camera except what occurred necks was beyond sassoon's comprehension rather than having his idea be embraced with enthusiasm and excitement. He watched with dismay and confusion. As each blank face executives seemingly unimpressed proceeded with an air of flippancy and expressed disinterest to pursue what sassan had feverishly worked on for months collectively. They decided to shelve it indefinitely. Unfortunately they wouldn't realize that sassoon's discovery and their decision was going to change the fate of kodak. Welcome to the story of kodak. Developed in the dark room in eighteen eighty eight overexposed fired by two thousand and twelve reflect on the most iconic business fails inevitably. Kodak comes up high on the list after all it was once one of the most powerful companies in the world and nowadays capturing precious moments no longer requires the namesake company and the stand alone camera itself. Well it's no longer a household item for most who have turned their smartphones to snap and share photos from anywhere in the world in a matter of seconds but there was a time and i recall this vividly when vacations and events wouldn't be complete without our family camera. Was this big bulky big beautiful piece of equipment because back then it was pretty cutting edge and you'd have to pop in the thirty five millimeter film. A certain way into the back of the camera. Which if you didn't get it in right would expose too much light to the film and completely screw up your photos which was like flushing ten dollars down the drain and then once we were done taking the photos. I'd go with my mom to the local drugstore like our local rite aid or cvs or duane. Reade which had these photo processing centers drop off our film and have to wait three to five days. Were sometimes even over a week to have them. Print out our photos onto paper because back. Then you'd have to wait a long time to see how these photos turned out over the years. It progressed to a quicker turnaround time and then we would sit around and look at the photos together sift through them. Organize them and put them into our photo albums and it was a thing the way we capture moments now has dramatically evolved over time and kodak has been our guide. Kodak's first camera was connick because it put photography into the hands of the general public the company was with us throughout the hey days of the hour photo into the digital era and these days digital photos. Don't just live on the camera or the family computer. We can text them. We can post them. And send them to. Self destruct timers even turn them into memes for all of that we owed eastman kodak a big thank you. for democratizing. photography be dominated the consumer photography market for over a century. But what's so interesting. Is i was doing research on the downfall of kodak. Was that with a number of ways we can take photos. The answer seems simple at first but when you look closer at the company's history you'll come to see that ironically what made them so successful was what ultimately killed off. The company story is a poster. Child is research story of an organization that was very successful extraordinarily successful and some of the very activities and interactions and challenges and the like the pain from the success created a dynamic which ultimately created a culture in a way of operating that killed the success completely. That was john. Kotter our special guests for this episode. He's a professor at harvard business school who has authored several bestsellers on this topic. And we'll help breakdown. How kodak was a lesson in how a series of mistakes including the culture at kodak could forever damage a once. picture-perfect pioneer. You press the button we do. The rest that was an advertising slogan coined by george eastman the founder of kodak eighteen eighty eight when he created the first commercialized camera on the market eastman in avid photographer believed in making photography available to the world in other words empowering people to do their own picture-taking until then taking photographs was a complicated process that can only be accomplished. If photographer knew how to process and develop his own phil eastman who came up with. The name of the company himself started with the letter k because he thought it sounded strong and then tried out a bunch of other combinations with other letters finally landing one that sounded legit and he certainly hit the nail on that as the brand kodak would come to command. The entire photography industry worldwide kodak was a trailblazer with its innovation. Adopting a wildly successful business model. Call the razor and blade in which you sell something for cheap. Make the real money selling supplies for in this model. A single sale creates a recurring revenue. Stream and single sale was in the cameras which kodak made very affordable after all the money was in the film the printing sheets and other accessories with much higher margins that would be the bread and butter for kodak and it worked very well for a very long time pioneered in industry. That were so good that they gained huge market share and had all the advantages of huge market share which is to say you get economy to scale and you get brand recognition and it's very difficult to compete with them and so once they get going it's almost as if they get lift they get a win behind And without taking innovative or clever or new steps the wind behind them produced by a not a monopoly but pretty close carries you to growth and profitability and. What looks like a phenomenal success store. And that's what happened to go to. And if you recall their presence was so prevailing that the tagline kodak moment became a ubiquitous lexicon that refer to memorable moments that could be captured in a photograph at its height. Kodak was one of the most valuable brands in the world. But over time the company would go from household name to a nostalgic throwback. What could have happened to cause them to feet away like an old photograph and win. Did the red flags start to show. It was when some real competition actually began to emerge and the competition leveraged off vanu technology. Most of all. I mean that was the biggest thing that switch to vigil and it came from not within the united states but from without the unites perm japan and just like the automakers i mean codex story has a lot of similarities. With the automakers in detroit. Japan comes in with a different product that can compete and kodak with its dysfunctional culture by that point certain degree of arrogance a inward focus. Not much leadership appreciated. That people have been hired and promoted just to keep up with the growth that during the glory years which is just to manage this thing and keep it from you know spinning apart because they're growing so fast and over managed under lead again culture and not to pay well it doesn't pay attention to potential new competitors and they didn't or they systematically overestimate the superiority of their products or underestimate. The amount of technology changes chapman when you've been successful for so long. It's hard to imagine at the winning streak might end many have traced the downfall of kodak all the way from the time the company decided not to pursue its digital camera strategy while kodak might not have seen the potential in the digital future sassan. Sure did of course. There were no cell phones. No internet most televisions were black and white and computers were still enormous back then it may have been ahead of its time. But ultimately that invention to sat there for years it was also reported that sassoon's bosses strictly forbade him to talk about this publicly or show the prototype. He created to people outside of kodak because well management feared that this would cannibalize its core business. The razor blade model it had executed so successfully for over a century around the nineteen eighty s. Things began to quickly evolved within the photography industry. Despite being the first to create a product that would set a bar. Kovacs management failed to grasp the importance of that instead because kodak held a lion share of the film market at the time and was fearful and resistance to change even while others within the organization saw how quickly it was beginning to happen all around them. Because you also is a standard piece of these stories. It's not at all unusual that affirm with a lot of success developed a toxic culture will still nevertheless because they have money and because they continue to do our the or whatever will someday there will start in vending pieces of future but they will be ignored or not funded sufficiently. And then we're back here again's again you know. What is this guy down here. As a matter of fact people run the numbers. They start worrying about competing with themselves. The classic problem this new device the main success if it is successful. It'll mean taking away existing customers undercutting. Our current profitability is very high and usually the profitability on new ventures. It's lower and a place like kodak for those inventions sometimes literally get a serious senior management discussion. Just get lost in the clutter of. We're the best shut up and do your job seeing digital as a threat to their own film products rather than an evolution of it kodak chose not to pursue it. That was the first of several heavy blows that eventually bring the company down secondly it seemed that the company and its vision of other competitors was myopic blinded by its own success and convinced that they were infallible. Kodak couldn't see the ways in which other companies for advancing they completely missed the rise of technology and as other players like sony canon and fuji film saw an entry into the digital space quickly. Their new digital cameras were far greater than the prototype. Sassan had introduced almost a decade before in fact was noted that while kodak was stagnant companies like fuji aggressively pursued new technologies as well as opportunities like in the nineteen eighty-four olympics when fuji became the official sponsor after kodak decline a move that broke fuji into the us market. A second death knell for kodak. The problem is if you've got this kind of pocket culture that can come from success even when the evidence becomes overwhelming. That things are changing out there. And you've got to react. The organization tends to an kodak. Did not react react slowly. React clumsily from the outside. It's almost hard to believe. But that's what happens when the much success. Bruce is kind of a toxic inwardly focused arrogant culture. They ignore the competition when the benchley comes on and it leads to their demise before we continue a quick word from our sponsors disappear sodas brought to you by ping identity being in a time of extraordinary digitisation identity. Security is becoming more critical. If you're not an identity expert that's okay because we have ping identity. A leader in champion of enterprise identity security and now ping identity is bringing you. Hello user an educational podcast that covers all things identity security. The podcast is hosted by richard byrd chief customer information officer at ping identity. And he's one of the most respected voices in the identity space in each episode. 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That kodak could ever fail that hubris. That complacency would infect the company becoming handcuffs for the entire organization even as other employees saw. What was eminent in nineteen eighty nine after a two year bidding war with another suitor kodak finally one and purchased the global pharmaceutical companies sterling drug for five point one billion dollars thinking that it would become a chemical business with the division of photography however many thought they overpaid for the acquisition by more than double it started its bid around forty dollars per share an ended it two years later with eighty nine dollars per share. It said that they won over. Investors by claiming strong synergies that the company's fit together. But that wasn't the case. It took roughly about four years to realize that the production of photography kind of didn't have anything to do with hospitals and cardiovascular drugs so kodak sold off that division for half of what the paid a major corporate blunder. It would be twelve more years later before kodak attempted never acquisition in two thousand and one by then the company was preparing for the growth of photo sharing and they acquired the company. Oh photo now keep in mind. This was long before social media. The acquisition of photo sharing site was pretty pioneering ahead of its time but kodak completely missed the mark because instead of catapulting this into a new category of sharing photos within a community they instead use. Oh photo in a way to get people to just create more digital images also is not usual that in a certain point so glaringly obvious that they have to accompany us to do something that senior management decides. Well we've got move so let's buy a solution to the problem so gemini time but they don't recognize that with the type of culture we're talking about you buy something and then your cultures systematically kills it. It's just happens. It's an oregon. That's being rejected by the body. Another fatal mistake when you think about the possibilities and how they could have actually been an early developer of a service like instagram. It's worth noting that by the time. Kodak release its first digital camera into the market in nineteen ninety-one stores were already flooded with competition. They never did catch up. And despite being the behemoth in the industry from two thousand and three to two thousand and eleven kodak not being able to compete in digital camera. Sales was unable to find anything that could replace. It's outdated model. Never seen profitability again Decades later when asked about senior management's reaction to his pioneering invention steve sassan would say in an interview with the new york times that the reaction he received from the executives were essentially. That's cute could. Don't tell anybody about it. In more recent years the term kodak moment has taken on a new meaning referring to when a business starts to lose market relevants after being an undisputed leader in film photography. It never saw or care to see the structural shift. That technology was advancing toward even if they were the first to have developed it shot at all unusual any sorts of stories that somebody in the company actually does develop the next or does develop something that is innovative or is comparable to what this emerging competition. It's doing but with a part of the toxic culture is this arrogance and inward focus the arrogance it subtle. I mean it's but it infects everything so senior management is looking at the financial the financial look terrific. They're growing they're profitable. There's always a natural tendency in modern organizations to lean towards stability and survival over risk taking and change and especially when senior management really is management not leadership a lot predictable earnings satisfy the financial community. Therefore in that kind of environment innovations from within jerry often get stuck in the middle and they don't even make it senior management. Or if they do they make it in a way that they don't get a real hearing a real discussion. A real analysis kodak had been given ample time to catch up and it's important to note that there's a clear distinction between management and leadership. So what are the warning. Signs when companies management is actually butchering. its own innovation. It's the modern organization in its worst form with too much siloed too bureaucratic to change unfriendly and yet at the same time too much arrogance and hubris and ego thinking we know butts which leads to not paying attention to what's happening around you and leads to not enough people being promoted because they can provide leadership not just excellent management and kills off conversations of change and new so easily the more stable the world is the more the that talk sister doesn't necessarily kill you. Two thousand and twelve kodak filed for bankruptcy hard to believe for a company that at one point held ninety percent of the market share on films and eighty five percent on camera sales a company that revolutionized an industry and let it for over one hundred years. It was a strong message to the business world. That when a company begins to operate out of fear and loses sight of where the industry is going as well as what the consumers really want it loses sight of its value proposition. Kodak's starting making other products like inkjet printers in hopes to push people towards another purchase. Instead of actually innovating within their own industry as part of their bankruptcy plan. They sold their online photo service. Business to shutter fly for twenty three point eight million dollars. That certainly was not a kodak moment. Special thanks to john potter for his contributions to this episode in sharing his research and commentary on the beloved camera company. Coda and thank you for tuning in to this week's the great fail. Please make sure to visit our website at the great fail. Dot com for behind the scene audio and video footage. If you like these episodes and want us to continue bring new more. 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Is Astrology Antithetical to Christianity?

The Astrology Podcast

2:10:21 hr | 1 year ago

Is Astrology Antithetical to Christianity?

"Hi My name is Chris Brennan and you're listening to the astrology podcast. Today is Tuesday October first two thousand nineteen starting at nine Oh nine PM in Denver Colorado and this is the two hundred and twenty six episode of the show in this episode. I'm going to be talking with astrologer nate chronic about whether astrology is endothelial Christianity nation I have a degree in divinity which involves study of classical languages Greek Latin Hebrew and I've been practicing I'm primarily a I'm also a practicing astrologer but I'm primarily approaching this from the perspective of sort of Western astrology and Chris you've effort and mental gymnastics and and self knowledge to come to a place where I am able to hold both Microsoft sanity then that accelerated a little bit I think it was in May after I released an episode where I discussed Christianity and possibly the role in most traditional Christian circles alright so I you know I am very excited to in which studies the emergence of Western astrology in the Greco Roman world especially around the first century BC through the seventh century CE and that's perfect background in terms of you know having to not having to but certainly being aware of and understanding the the pros and cons and the different sides things can be even more difficult to deal with and sometimes you have to rely on specialists her what have you so in terms of my background if anyone's coming into the all that astrology played and in contributing to the rise of Christianity due to some fuse views connected with fate in the Roman Empire Round the first and second century some of these arguments because I know a lot of people have questions about that especially Christians or also especially if you don't have background in like the history and some of those share and to speak about you know the this confluence of things that are very important to me in my life brilliant yeah I think and my astrology with sense of authenticity of course that's complicated as well by virtue of the fact that also gay so I've got like two strikes against me it professionally since late two thousand seventeen but astrology has always been an interest of mine an has taken no small amount of that's sparked the discussion and you had some thoughts about that so now we're finally getting together to to talk about it a little bit maybe we should start a little bit by introducing can you for those who aren't familiar with your background just talk about what your background is in astrology and and other things in general term sure absolutely just as so like I said earlier I've had a couple of discussions about this in the past and the podcast for example episode forty nine at the astrology podcast was with Samuel Reynolds the suit without knowing who I am having listened the podcast before my primary background is in ancient astrology and I wrote a book titled Hellenistic Astrology the Study of fate and four Janati sort of coming out of the same social background and some of the interaction that they had in the in the Roman world during that time friend alright so to give you some context for where I'm coming from in this conversation I'm a traditional astrologer I specialize in classical horry technique a student of the God thanks for joining me today Hey Chris thanks so much for having me on it's a real honor yeah I'm excited to have you on been wanting to we've been talking about it since last November oh for traditional astrology as well I am an ordained Christian priest and I survey congregation of the United Church of Christ which was a progressive mainline Protestant we talked about some responses to religious criticisms of astrology so we've touched on some of this and my goal is not to completely repeat trollope podcast which is on the Master of the Nativity in the overall ruler of the chart and part of what I talked about during that episode I think world and sort of the origins of Christianity and the origins of Western astrology and like I said the topic came up previously in Episode Two oh five of the think that sparked this discussion between you nate was just this realization is growing realization that I had over the course of the past decade that a college became so popular in the ancient oral and everybody believed that astrology for the most part but he believed or the majority of people believe that astrology was legitimate phenomenon and they also there was a heavy belief in astrology was very intertwined with the concept of fate and predates allot of the things that we went through an APP that episode. I don't think we're going to but instead approach this a little bit more from a historical standpoint about some of these debates in the ancient monistic than it is today in the late twentieth early twenty first centuries that things were viewed as much more deterministic or much more fixed when you're looking at your termination and the idea that astrology would tell you something about your fate and about your future and in some versions of astrology it was much more deter life through the lens of astrology and I feel like that's maybe true to some extent of traditional astrology as well would you say that's like an accurate statement or may be overstating the point is going very hard in the line of determinism while at the same time repudiating astrology and you have Martin Luther and his right hand man the sixth at the sixteenth century where there is a growing rift between stripes of protestantism with John Calvin and his successors right her as far as how much of a hardline determinist they're going to be which actually gets really interesting when you get into the Protestant reformation read it seems like there is a sense that the charts especially in in terms of charts of questions but also in nativities as well it it was essentially presentation of the path of Least Resistance if you do not do anything these are what your predictions are this is what could happen if you don't stoicism being a very popular philosophy from the third century BC to the first few centuries C E and that was I think they would overstate astrology of the Middle Ages and the Renaissance I certainly from my research and reading and in that period interesting in sort of weird ways that we don't realize today because astrology is so just not deterministic at this point in time right I think that determinism of any form has become extremely unpopular justin in general culture which you know has has certain ramifications I think the way that we practice says like election astrology or you've even applications of Magic to astrology which sought to make things less deterministic urged from that philosophical that philosophical period within history so it's certainly something that those of us who are adjacent to the traditional revival any if you don't make any effort to avert a possible disaster but that again that depends based on the particular invidious Valentine's and others like that so that certainly and that was like my main way of approaching this is just realizing that there was a deterministic strategy at least spend you know thirty minutes on on a lonely night thinking about at least I would hope so thinking about what specifically thinking about the like a a cosmological view in which everything in the world everything that would happen in your life was predetermined to happen you know at the very least from the moment of birth in the in the salvation project so that becomes a really tangled line of inquiry that's not quite so easy to suss out as much as we would probably a fully deterministic approach to astrology in the Hellenistic period around the time that Christianity arose and that that may have interacted in eight or avert your fate or what have you so that certainly existed but at least in the early hellenistic tradition it was also coming out of the backdrop of and they'll all play the same notes in the same rhythms but they'll each have a very different interpretation of the peace and it will sound different and have different initiative natal astrology which I don't think anybody would argue but that definition of itself almost as imply that there's something perhaps about your future that might be is at the moment of your birth have something to say about the nature in the course of your life put it like at the most simple basic definition that's always been my basic and feel based entirely upon the situation the context in which that piece of music is played so you give one to adjust aren't reasons right why why is that theologically well it depends on the theological stripe your coming from in some stripes of reform exactly a hardline calvinism suggests that God has already decided who will be saved and who will not be saved and there's nothing you can do about it the pianist and you'll get that version you give another to classical pianist you'll get that version you know I think it's very similar with nativities you give one person in a tizzy that has I think of chart almost like a piece of sheet music right you give a prelude to three different pianists get to be at least At least the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries by that point in history sure definitely an even in the hellenistic tradition there were certainly practice or more negotiable in that goes back probably to the mess Petitjean tradition even with the existence of like perpetuation rituals and the idea that there were things you could do to who grows up in Italy they turned into the pope right it's not the same fate but it is kind of the same theme its variations on similar themes at least that's where I've landed on this one the fuel level of determinism that is baked into strategy. Yeah I mean that 'cause that's always been one of my contention is that NATO astrology astrology today as people whose practices are informed more by classical philosophy by the philosophy entity in the techniques that Janati for sure historically Christianity has made a strong case that an individual needs to be able to participate right but that's sort of like a sort of weird but let's say a not common view in terms of Christian theology. Sure Yeah I mean does that because I think that was so would I noticed in my studies of ancient astrology in ancient philosophies the revival of traditional astrology in the West should maybe spend a little bit of time thinking about closely and I'm sure that this is something that most people coming into this Jupiter in the ten thousand Sagittarius and they become a Hindu Rishi in the that they grow up in India and that's their path but you give that same chart to somebody Philip Malang Ben who was an astrologer arguing much more in the direction of more autonomy more free will more synergistic participation with Christian articulation of how Salvation Works and what the mechanism is but I don't think that it's Predetermination because the logically the idea of of having a free will of sore was really important in Christianity for D I'm not quite ready to say that that in and of itself precludes there being some kind of external influence upon oh that is something that I think enters the picture at a certain point but I don't think it's the majority opinion of of historic Chris and it's not a common view in terms of Christian theology but it is a view that does become significant in the development of late renaissance astrology especially you might have a preview of at the very least from looking at birth chart rent. Yeah Yeah Yeah the way that I've come to talk about this and in England because William Lee of course when he's writing he's very involved in the political and religious climate of England during the seventeenth the basic premise of natal astrology to some extent is deterministic because in the premises that the alignment of the planets and other slush bodies entry and the Stripe of Christianity that is in power during that time it skews towards deterministic calvinism religions was that that seemed to be one of the main points of dispute between astrology and Christianity at least in the ancient world was the issue fate in the issues armed with the ideology humans do not have any say whatsoever and whether they're actually saved or not free will is an illusion and this would be the heart health and him and at some point in that relatively early on we start seeing Christian authors Disputing and attacking astrology title chronology. It's like Helen Astrology comes together around sometime around let's say the first century B C E as like a system that's especially focused on NATO's with God in their salvation vis-a-vis the exercise of free will choosing to choosing God whatever that means I religious community which is largely polytheistic in the Roman Empire and then slowly over the course of the next few centuries this what in so that's the backdrop in the first century BC in Christianity comes onto the scene in the first century see and initially started I smart started out as a small religious group or small cold gets bigger and bigger and bigger until eventually by the fourth century see it becomes legalized don't get too into specifics or into the weeds here but yeah that exercise of free will is important I think in the classical fatalism and the idea that astrology is somehow wrapped up in these ideas of fate and so it was out of that context that I originally had this question that have been a decided tension between it was really more the concept of fate that was the issue it wasn't necessarily astrology Qua- astrology surrounding fate and free will the importance of free will in Christian theology yeah and I realize you know after the Hellenistic Period Collagen Christianity have been reconciled in different ways and continue to be reconciled and practiced in different ways in modern times there was just this question that I always had suggest that at S- at least during the very early stages of the development of a coherent Christian theology there was after the fall of the Roman Empire Win Christianity became the dominant religion in the West that there have been many Christians who practiced astrology and many ways that bring them to a point where they have the opportunity to exercise that free will assure right I guess it was just so so setting up the historic there were certainly some astrologers who held like hardliner extreme stoic views like Manila's examples one of the most famous or to a lesser extent a healthy opinion that the purpose of astrology was to know your fate ahead of Times that you knew what you had to accept about events in your life that would occur in the future in terms of the origins of Christianity if there wasn't something there which initially set up astrology in Christianity on problematic footing even is to become the official state religion of the Roman Empire and then eventually becomes the dominant religion in the Roman Empire and the rest is sort of history astrology and especially focused on the idea that you can look at the birth chart tell you things about your fate and some of the more stoically inclined to strangers like balance unified volume there are females that come up through out each of the volumes of the Bible or each of the entries the biblical Canon but I think you are certainly going to see things that contradict each other right and there are and especially from like the second and third and fourth centuries a lot of these attacks on astrology are attacks against the idea of determine or the idea you've been astrologer or to discriminate against astrology right right and especially because the Bible itself like what we call the Bible was is a collection of different acts that were written by different people in different eras and they have different sometimes contrasting or sometimes wildly contrasting views on astrology you could say that yeah I I would be comfortable agreeing with that but keep in mind too that for Jewish people the Old Testament is nfl later perhaps they could be reconciled. Yeah I think you're hitting on a very important point there Chris because I think that there is enough evidence to somebody who wants me to open the Bible and point to verse and have that verse say that it's Okay to do astrology or that it's not okay to astrology because there's how does a small religion or small Colt in the Roman empire small monotheistic cult of the Roman Empire within the context of a broader sort of very diverse move in that direction let me just begin by saying that the answer to whether Christianity and astrology are antithetical tone another really depends on how you're defining the term there's no solid testimony that you can just take out of context and proof text with to give yourself licensed to wondering about over the past few years which is is Christianity inherently antithetical to astrology because of some of those debates bridge that gap sure yeah but I mean I like it it's probably a good starting point because at least chronologically knowing that the Old Testament arises Ali theistic context and and part of the conflict there was the conflict with Vanu sort of monotheism of the this sort of Jewish religion some stripes of Christianity which will bend over backwards to try to smooth out all the contradictions. I'm not what everyone lake contrasting views on everything you know they're the Bible is not a single crash course they start out in in the land of Canaan right eventually following the events of the Joseph Narrative at the end of the verses the polytheism that was being practiced in Mesopotamia that was like the social context of astrology at that time in the first money NBC era bright the Bible there's no testament right so and we also have to remember that Christianity began as a Jewish cult for the first Christian there are some really interesting things that we get to from either of those that have different angles of approach in terms of how we address the question of what is you know what is the relationship between astrology and Christianity And how do we how do we how to bridge that gap or is there even a possibility right I think what an there is a really important angle evatt can easily get lost to for focusing purely on the field logical I Antagonistic or dismissive of astrology are reacting to what was methamphetamine astrology essentially at the time which was practiced in like and baked into the memory of the Hebrew people is their experience of enslavement in Egypt under Pharaoh out of sort of a like you said a Jewish colts that was specifically though in Mexico Tamer in the Middle East during let's say at those are two almost different I don't know like some most denomination so treat that as a part one and part two of the Bible Essentially Right uh-huh whose Christianity whose astrology right right that's where immediately right out of the gate we have complications answering this question in any way that's going to be satisfied of those people I mean because at the very least it's like all Christians would agree that there's at least distinction between let's say like what they call the Old Testament versus the New Testament especially the first millennium BC in the some of the references to astrology in occur in the old testament that are often the most so all the Hebrews go back to Palestine and they're they are until Alexander the great roles through and then all of the hellenistic the practice thereof that was the issue it was the the thing that astrology was predicated on right so you know to to a rumble around the land of Canaan for a little while commit some minor genocide and eventually become the nation of Israel the Twelfth Doc rulers and eventually the Roman empire come through and conquer that area so at the point in which Christianity emerges the the he and there was no new testament their Bible was the Hebrew Bible and maybe some of the additional stuff that's in the September jet right so when Babylon and the Israelite people are then taken as prisoners of war to Babylon right so this is the second empire that they are now under gone so many different enslavement imperial occupations that anything that even smells like Babylon is a by-word right so things of course like astrology are going to me his gods right so Egypt of course is the first empire Bat Israel has running with and then they get out of Egypt in they fright course both of these empires have as part of their imperial machinery their imperial cult machinery the genesis and of course this is the mythic history of the people of Israel the end up in Egypt right and things are going great until the end up as slaves in the adopt a the freedom the expulsion of the hick sauce the freedom of the Hebrew people from Egypt is chronicled in the book of Exodus with really strong polemic in the writings of the Old Testament because they are practices that are endemic to a person's life vis-a-vis China's or vis-a-vis they're they're raising their their situation there the accidents of life that they have no control over that may or may not you're engaging with the biblical narrative I think we do have to treat the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament all little bit different than we treat the New Testament right and I think astrology in these to the Old Testament the new testament are being written during very distinct phases in the history of astrology where during the period conquering and occupying empires right right because astrology maybe it's worth because there's like different phases than the flex that are there because there's also an economic associated economic conflict as well as a political conflict unfolding right so history of the Hebrew people the king employing groups of astrologers who are living around the country who are both observing the movements of the planets and the stars and other celestial body people and remember too that Jesus Jewish she is distinctly Jewish figure in the very early parts of sanity they have under jobs tribes of Israel and Judah and the events of the Old Testament the events of Israelite monarchy occur and You're just talking about with like Macadamia astrology in the first money in B. C. E. IT was largely just mundane astrology where it's running applied to at the end of that period around dates are not coming to me quickly right now but around seven hundred eighty B C e Jerusalem groups of people such as cities and nations alike you know if there's an eclipse there will be like an earthquake or famine or a war plague or the so cyrus the great sacks Babylon and five fifty ce becomes the emperor of Persia the first thing Cyrus the great does is you can go home now for more information about how to subscribe to the podcast and help support the production of future episodes of the show by becoming a patron please the astrology podcast dot com slash subscribe use of astrology support political power and to keep money flowing to the top of the pyramid or to the top of the Ziggurat as the case may be Louis or something like that and astrology is like a state supported event especially in the seventh century and Misbehave Mia Seventh Century B. C. E. and it's mainly real policy so that's what you mean when you're talking about astrology being deeply intertwined with the politics of the day in that time period exactly exactly ladies but also writing down and making interpretations about what they think those movements mean and then sending them to the king directly in order to advise about impure dichotomy between the different enter apologies that are represented by the Israelite meth and the Babylonian Creation Myths whereas occult works to propitiate for the benefit of the king but also everyone the king is in charge of right there's also a really interesting eight or an alternative to the empire that has ruled by of course the king of Babylon and his cortege of deities consciousness but as they transition out of their Babylonian captivity the writings of the Old Testament that exists at nation through which the entire world would be blessed so these myths run very very deeply stories run very very deep in the Israelite astrology again as I was saying you know there's this idea that all of the planets are actual deities that the that the Babylonian imperial is that accompany him and his people right so this becomes very much about maintaining a sense of national identity that's rooted all the way back early development of Judaism Judaism did not start out as a monotheistic religion it started out as a hinault theistic religion which acknowledged the existence of other gods lifeless matter you know but I think it all does feed into this growing sense of national identity and national exclusivity sometimes you know there is a really strong monotheist bent and how different divinities are spoken of being blind or mute or just has creations that bear the image of God and participate with God in the administration of the world so God they were foreign gods right and so the tension between Ya has the Israelites Deity who has specifically chosen Israel better and if you you can go and Google the documentary hypothesis if you're interested in doing a deep dive on this you can see there several different layers of texts that in some ways among the Israelites of the post exotic period now where astrology fits into that in terms of Mesopotamia and to the the mythic promise that Yahoo made to Abraham the mythic forefather of the Israelite people you know to become an In the Babylonian creation myths humans are conceived as nothing more but tools to serve the gods whereas in the Israelite Creation Myth. Humans are construed as so yahoo as the Boston and Israel's the bosses people right They set themselves up as being a counterpoint so to the to the Israelites who were exiled to Babylon yes of course in and Murdoch and all the rest of the gang were real they just weren't there a fourth being team Babylon whereas Israel has their god Yawkey Way and it's important to note too that in the point go through this redaction process where they're almost like edited to fit their understanding of monotheism a Little Bit L. as a covenant community as a covenant raise to be in this it's known as a Suzerain Vassal Treaty right team Israel team wants to stay over there on their side with their understanding of who they believe they were created to be and not get caught up and some places in the Old Testament refers to Yahoo as being one of many gods sometimes got her first to God self in the plural which is really interesting in the or not fall prey to the the star Gods of the empire who just want humans to be tools and I think that there is a strong case for that interpretive trajectory with the Hebrew Bible sure so tradition the planets were viewed as like manifestations of some of the specific gods basically that's right yes and and capable of sending messages ext was also kind of not looked well upon right it was not looked well upon as long as it was outside the north signs that the gods were attempting to send to humankind about their intentions that's right that's right okay so that become is to humankind about the intentions of the Gods said that the purpose of the astrologers was observing what was going on in the sky as being amends or has documented right there in the book of Exodus so divination was baked in to the Israelite Tabernacle later temple cult however what were done in the name and with the authority of other deities so that gets into that Henault theism monotheism challenge that the Jawa Stick clear-out Mansi where clergy and the and the Temple of Yahoo would cast lots to discern the will of God right by what he's done that he commits suicide and after the the events of the crucifixion really settled down the disciples at terms of authorized nation one example of which is the practice of Odin entombing which is essentially a form of all is presenting or is grappling with during that period of history. Okay Yeah and there's actually an example that clemency in the New Testament as well I there are none that come to mind in terms of a specific condemnations of the practice of astrology at that point recall passage from the Hebrew Bible that says let another take his place which is from the song of different Gods that are sending messages to mankind and that's already gonNA run into some issues if you're starting to go in the direction of focusing on one God and then secondarily soon after betraying Jesus to the religious leaders for a fee is so distraught okay so anyway going back so in terms of the Old Testament message taming context to primary issues are issues with caused a lot to fall whatever it picks will be what was supposed to be we'll be somehow correct the correct choice that somehow like divinely becomes an issue as well very much so and that that point is something that carries over into the New Testament period for sure okay and they came down to two names and they couldn't decide so they prayed and they basically cast lots in the lot fell on Matthias so he became inspired probably in that context by like providence or something like that exactly there's a passage in the book of proverbs in the Hebrew Bible that says no matter how the lot comes out it's God who is due to some of the political issues with astrology being part of the power apparatus of the ruling powers at the time that potentially polytheism because the way that the planets are treated in the Babylonian are teaming tradition as if they're manifestations any quotations that come to mind immediately are not not as much criticisms of astrology but criticisms of planetary gods so there is a made that form of definition lists it is that it was done in the name of Yahweh whereas other forms of devastation against which the yellowish color or competing the replacement for Judas immediately after the crucifixion of Jesus and the Suicide of Judas right in premise underlying is making it fall in a certain way or something like that that's very bad paraphrase shirt that that's certainly an idea that's touched upon the Hebrew Bible as well romance in the Greco Roman world was idea that through chance or fortune that essentially providence in some way will exactly let's see but other most other things have to do with like anti sprite So of course right there you take that that translation history of phosphorus delusive for two morningstar booted or banned in any way in like this religion compared to let's say mainstream like some the polytheistic religions seemed to associate Lucifer with Satan right so it's step two step and that's how these ideas develop within a Christian and so they say well since we've Athas vacancy allowed another take his place and so they're trying to figure out who who was meant to take place do you know any quotes of their new like Old Testament quotes that come to mind in particular about like and strategy ones that are worth mentioning within that context comes to the issue of Bait which which divinity are you divining with right so when Israel was leaving Egypt may be some of the Old Testament critiques of strategy whereas in other parts of my life I've had to engage with very similar critiques of air quotes homeless the nation and that was like one of the official government roles was I think Caesar was like head of the College of augurs for example at one bright well again course over the ensuing centuries Another one is in the book of Amos you may have to you may have to cut my flipping are two new testament apocalyptic literature in people start you know through a an interpretive lineage to begin to you know have divvy nation as a cornerstone so for example I'm thinking of even the Roman Empire the Roman Empire they had like ornaments Roberta show -ality in the Old Testament Canon even though that did not that concept was not a thing that was known to the ancient world right acid in Zeki ill where the prophet decries the fall of Lucifer and of course in Greek that word is phosphorus which is the name for Venus it's the work of the double or simulate exactly exactly that's that's exactly where that comes from okay so more arguments that perhaps it's a legitimate thing so Sometimes defenders of astrology will cite that and say well what kind of signs are the heavens supposed to be giving in that instance the nation that's the problem it is did nation accessing the knowledge in the input of rival deities to Yahoo Away right okay methamphetamine astrology gets synthesized together at the junction astrology and merged with Greco Roman philosophy to create this new version of astrology and his new synthesis eating meat with the blood still in it like temple prostitution you know if there's an interesting parallel here to the way you know we can engage with live but then there's a shift because astrology changes by the first century ce there's this confluence after the during the Hellenistic period of that's the context in which the New Testament is written and that's a much different context compared to the Old Testament because now we're starting to get into some different phyllis it's demonization the cast it's like the apostles or something are casting launch in what was the context again like I'm trying to remove Judas Hellenistic astrology and by this time natal astrology has become really popular and it didn't seem to exist prior to about the first birth like one point really yeah there and then Simmons scholars have tried to argue about how it's not dinner it's something else right but coming into Canaan into Palestine there were already many many different extant colts there that had celtic practices like divvy nation but it's coming from either deities that are not sanctioned or from forces that are not not good yes okay enroll prohibition against fortune telling which I'm curious why that is from a religious standpoint why why was like fortune telling through the tax year sure I'm just like trying to glance through some different verses really click there's of course the astrologists loved his site the Genesis I the first is well it doesn't work it's not real astrology is fake and that pagans had been doing that for years before Christianity even existed so that's not really the echoes of this common later with the arguments about some the later author after the New Testament comes into play saying yeah strategies real but it's work of demons charts that we have in the Mesopotamia tradition are dated until about four ten BC and then by the first century BC and ce suddenly this but essentially what we have by the time we get to the New Testament era and this would be about the first century I was the first to fourth centuries C E chart for the alignment of the planets at the moment a person is born and it will say something significant about possibly their future character what have you so there are essentially three primary classical arguments about that that argue that Christianity in astrology are not compatible is one than in the ancient world of teaming period of many different forms of divination that were taking place and deviation in that context I'm telling lickochops you shall not eat any flesh with the blood in it you shall not interpret omens or tell fortunes so right there we have more of a Those disputations are not really interesting theologically to me in terms of speaking of the history of Christianity in astrology as they are hello and God said let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days in for years the latest Christian disputations yes that's exactly right and you know I think that I think the point there is that because there's an interesting you know I think that's one of the arguments for astrology from the New Testament that I find very compelling offic debates about if you take natal astrology true as a premise that means there's some things that might be predetermined in a person's life and you start getting it the issues about fate and free will and and things like that right and and right away this is already prominent can already see the shift in things in the I be really interested to know what he thinks about the age of the universe and all of those other considerations as well these based based on that video it seemed like he was of their arguments are taken which are just like Pagan dispute disputations that astrology even possible by invoking things like twins or but I think on that point that you raised especially there why the nation is especially forbidden and the La- vehicle code it's not so much divination cloud onset of Natal astrologists super popular and everybody's doing it and then it becomes integrated into the life in the Mediterranean world in general in its that concept that you can cast it who is saying the strategy is not compatible with Christianity and that was actually the first thing he did is the very first thing he does he actually cited science and he says science has not validated astrology luder procession and other things like that and then some of those arguments get sort of adapted or or not co-opted but sort of integrated into it emerging in the Mediterranean basin in that period of history so if we retake astrology doesn't work we'll take that argument in strategy within the Christian world for centuries of Christianity which were namely that either fate is cancelled or that the sort of treating astrologers if it's some sort of phenomenon that does exist and exactly exactly which brings us to the other main threat of arguments again tippety story in the Gospel of Matthew Right yes we can absolutely begin to see that I'm I'M GONNA put a pen in the Nativity story real quick says but that's sort of the modern equivalent to what was happening in this first tier that you're mentioning in the ancient world and as an adjunct comment to that now we'll talk about divine providence they'll talk about divine goodness that has guiding the universe forward into the future and I think that's you know can be an attractive there's also pro neue and pro Neue is interesting because in English we translate that word has providence right in often Christians even now and says there is a real phenomenon and that was his opening argument against astrology and then after that he went into theological arguments based on the Bible's theological posture for many people But because of providence being the actual guiding factor that is did you find what you're looking for I do not find that's why so to move this along those sure that's that's the misfit teaming context which especially the Old Testament comes out said it here for now and maybe it's there because the modern modern analogy is like invoking like a scientific argument today's actually saying the guy religious the video actually we watched tonight where I just pulled up some random youtube video and it was about it was a sort of modern contemporary Christian pastor more of a conservative leaning even trial call but yeah I mean well that's an issue in of itself which is just you run into a problem if that's going to be in exclusively Christian argument that gets picked up by Christian writers in about the fourth and fifth centuries and that becomes you know regret critique of astrology that we still have today from various corners rice and some of that is actually influenced where the Christian authors withdrawn earlier Pagan Watt that you have been given in this life and there's nothing you can do about it now the the astrology of the devil brand of criticism this is essentially what Gosh what's her name Lewis memorizing both of them really quickly and then we'll go back to that one just because the fate is cancelled in such a huge discussion point we make sure we talk about that world there are essentially two concepts of fate that emerge the first is him are many of which is simply fate this is what J. got deal with it for a little while right while I think we get there with the I think we get there with the it's the devil argument as well because the the route that I'm going this amazing book and it was originally her PhD dissertation in like Nineteen Ninety six or nineteen ninety eight but she later revised and published it actually almost a subset of the fate is cancelled criticism accom- you WanNa can we we dwell on the Lake Feta's cancelled one or are you scholar whose name is it's different in different publications but it's it's Nikola density Louis or Nikola Francis Stanzi but she wrote the Nativity Story in the Gospel of Matthew The star of Bethlehem and in other parts of just treats it like it's real but it's evil but you've got a real issue there if the Bible itself is Maine or your opening argument as a Christian against astrology that science says it's not real because the Bible clearly treats astrology it's real most of the time for example with thing that exempts a Christian from astrological fated nece whereas him is something that we get exempted from by virtue of in how that caused a lot of tensions with Christianity especially in the first few centuries both in some of what we consider to be the standard mainstream treatments an attack on astrology from the philosopher Cicero from the first century in be seeing or from the philosopher sexist empirikos in optimism in in many of the early Christian arguments against astrology humour many is simply the idea of fate that of Christianity but also in some of the other ones like what's usually referred to as like narcissism and other smaller Christian cults Where do you WANNA pick back up I just want to so that's that became to me like a huge part theologically alternate narrative in I'm not sure if I go along with her narrative completely because they think she ends up doing actually really good job explaining and have characterized the emergence of Christianity and the Greco Roman world in the role that fate and astrology played and she tries to present a slightly when you get into this that is like the big question mark for me and a lot of involves over the past decade have really been influenced by the work of this one it's our demons you got two options there so the first office that this idea that fate is cancelled an out of the out of the story through Brill which is like an academic publisher and the title is cosmetology and fate in narcissism and Greco Roman antiquity came out in two thousand how this theological issues running fate became one of the primary things almost that Christians were that made Christianity it didn't end up being a successful in the long term yeah yeah so I love her book and I really recommend everybody read this but it's influenced my is is almost random right we have no we have no way of choosing fate so your chart is your name Armand Nay right it represents the the Hi Mary things was that being a Christian would free you from fade and would free you from the influence of astrology which was seen as one in frame astrology and how they're trying to frame their own religion in their own beliefs and what was appealing about that is it seemed like they were trying to frame it as if one of the we astrology and Christianity in the android world but primarily through the lens of this issue of of feet in the role that it played in astrology it to me almost seem like appealing or for the first time I felt like when I read her work in the way that she explained how Christian Christian early Christian authors were trying to thinking on this because she does this sort of literature review where she objects to some of the ways that early earlier historians of religion there's something very relatable seeing that happen now in modern times but then projecting it backwards into the century and imagining what just a the same in and sort of interchangeable and for the first time it made me really understand what the appeal of Christianity would have been and why would have risen adding some of these older forms of astrology you see people struggling with some of these questions about feet and free will and and what are the implications for my life and why does this timing sneak works so well in like indicating the sequence of events in my life and what are the implications of that and do I have do I truly have free will and all this other stuff I think talk now but that was where this discussion came from it was largely through reading her book is one of my primary sources but also understanding Helen so rapidly in the Greco Roman world to become the dominant religion over the course of a few centuries so and I know that you object to that and you think it's more complicated not and that's why I want to get into do it there are various definitions of what fate is or what the nature of fate is yeah so maybe we can eighteen it's kind of expensive book it's like one hundred dollar book but it's such a good book in such a good treatment of the tensions between Special Yep she identifies a fate as being a force that is administered by demons right so I think these two arguments are actually one in the same and the other face of this of course is the feel logical challenge posed by these Babylonian astral daddy's right the planet's Nana and Martin Congressional Roman astrology as I do and how they approached it and what the mindset was but also seeing with clients in in modern times astrologers are revived being the dominant paradigm and this notion that major things in your life or predetermined based on your moment of birth and then you have this new group that comes along and says normal person would have felt like if these different views were in you know currency work current in the mainstream especially in terms of astrology where this idea of the influences of the influences that make astrology work are themselves demonic influences right right exactly dizzy makes this really fascinating argument and I think that she is not alone in making it Legiti is a legitimate phenomenon and when I say astrology is a legitimate phenomenon what I mean is that there is a consensus view that individuals have a fate that is determined by astral influences at the moment of their birth that doesn't nest or another couple of texts that were collated into one volume the latest Gospel is decidedly the gospel of John which has a completely different angle of in the ancient world yeah it seems like the the the summary of that angle is essentially the acknowledgement that astrology Hersher but the way that she lays it out in chapter three of her book when she speaks about Paul is very interesting for those who do not know hall of Tarsus was a convert to Christianity who began as a Pharisee and had a very successful career as a teacher of Jewish law and printouts organized theologically and you can see in John's Gospel quite a bit more engagement with this idea of fate and free will and you know where this aids roughly around there just prior to that yes the gospels were written Tom so so the four gospels which are the accounts of Jesus's life is a persecutor of Christians in the early years of the existence of Christianity and he went on to write a majority of the text of the New Testament influences because it it might not even be influence could be signs or whatever that the astrology itself is somehow indicating your predetermined like events in your life some of the books that bear his name we're pretty sure that he wrote the rest of them not so sure what's his timeframe she would thoroughly mean that the act of reading a chart is in of itself the devil or something like that right I think or not even I've been writing who Gosh I think his martyrdom was in looks like they're saying sixty four sixty seven yeah about approximately and so the other major blake in the word but the things of the New Testament major documents of the New Testament were written in the few I was thinking seventy ce but that would have been the destruction of the temple and I can hear my seminary professors yelling at me from twelve years ago and is that were written beginning in about fifty mark as the earliest one that we have and we're pretty sure that was based on another text approach than Matthew Mark Luke those two year called the synoptic gospels because they form who they essentially followed the same plotline but johns as much ridden a few decades after the events in which they are supposed to be depicting theoretically took place around the first century or I that's a lot but those are some of the ideas that had been wrestling with and thinking about in terms of this issue and the role Christianity played possibly early some part of the role that it played it's not astrology itself that's the issue it's the influences that are the problem here so in those so the theory then it's like that those four gospels a more widespread movement but Paul of Tarsus is one of the main figures in creating what we know as Christianity Decade BC or maybe the first decade eighty yeah the these scholarly consensus for the date of the crucifixion of Jesus is Thirty Three C E and interestingly enough thirty three CE also includes one of the only times on record when the entire fame Mundi is backwards every planet z. e. and immediately the Christian movement after that begins to grow it takes a little while for the engine to turn over and for it to become a is in its detriment and it's in about February of thirty three C and S J Anderson who is an astrologer found that chart and eh today Christian theology and what's interesting about Paul is that he never actually met Jesus he just had a couple of ecstatic experiences and shows up that's the only time I've ever heard Paul ours is described as johnny come lately but exactly right okay I see met the people who knew Jesus so every all of his experiences were third party right so paul some johnny come lately specific audiences with specific problems with specific solutions but those letters primarily the letter to the church in Galicia is ah or the elemental spirits of this world are actually meant to be understood as astrological influences he just makes the claim that hey symbols but it it does become Basically his his writings do eventually become part of the new testament shoes he has a religious conversion experience in he becomes Christian yes he has a religious experience which she he talked some is where we really see the core of Paul's cosmological pessimism which articulates you know hey you know the world is Kinda messed up writings are primarily letters his while they're all letters everything Paul leftist epistolary literature which means that it is written to stuck out in my mind ever since hearing about it because it's just absolutely fascinating yes so the so the scholarly consensus is that Jesus's crucifixion is thirty three happen it's messed up because a bunch of incompetent demons are running it and those in confident demons might be the planets but he never actually says that the story hair baptism was said to give you a new birth and when he uses the term birth uses the term genesis which is of course if you look at astrological tax to written in Greek in the first and second century like Valentine's when he refers to birth chart he calls it a genesis yeah yeah so he's active in the middle of the first century CE and you said he was originally like a lawyer who is Jewish against the Christians which means natively so genesis was also a technical term for your birth chart in the ancient world so when some of these ancient Christian author are saying you get a new genesis from you know being baptized part of the implication may have been like you're you're sort of getting a new birth her acting as impress oppressive influences on human life on earth at this time that that we that a normal audience would have understood that at the time to be about in the book of Acts Tells People for your four times this happened this happened in now I'm the apostle to the gentiles deal with it and we just got no let him I the planets right right exactly exactly and and that in that brings us to the baptism thing that somehow this whole argument as that I certainly think that for educated Romans or educated a hellenistic she does a pretty good job I feel drawing that out and saying that we're supposed to understand that if we're reading this new first century context when he's talking about some of these things if you want to do this and so as is Paul and sorry for my ignorance on no that's that is Paul one of he's not considered one of the four synoptic Gospel Paul's letters especially while especially in Romans chapter eight so his letter to the church in Rome there is this wonderful passage at the end Z.. Technical terminology related to astrology peppered throughout especially the Pauline Corpus but also in the Joe in the literature so the gospel of John After no astrology to really be able to get that sense from the tax which is why might my my take on this for learning Greek and being able to to to get into the new testament because so much of the astrological jargon is in there right and I think as the three letters of John and Chris I gotTa tell you a story when I went to you AC in two thousand eighteen to Dmitry Georgia's talks one of her talks went up to her by the way baptism is how you get out of this I right and that's the thing that I found the most subtle but compelling about one of the after in densely Lewis's book is that chapter and he's listing all of these things that have no power to separate us from the love of God mm sense it part of the implication may have been that bad any has an that's as strongly as I as I'm willing to go on that one but you will Somma and Buffo so neither exaltation nor fall are able to separates from the love of God so you know you'd Jews who who knows the Jingo of astrology that would land for them but I'm not convinced that average Joe in the logical terminology into their theology and stuff and even more elaborate wiz Yes yes we do certainly have evidence of various Christian and spoke afterwards and shared with her a little bit about my background and I told her that I went to seminary and I know Greek and she grabbed my hand and said Oh thank you so much you on Sunday morning is going to have the astrological background to know that HIP CIMA and Buffo our our technical astrological terms there is evidence of Christian sects in the early centuries of Christianity for whom astrology was much more of a positive influence and I think we even have like little obscure I've read papers about little obscure Nas to Christian sects like the the paramedics I think is what they're called where they did seem to incorporate some Astra but but the things that he lists of course are death and life and angels and powers and all this Bubba but he also uses the words hip also terms that are used in the astrological tax so I always think of for example when we translated this passage from ritory us where he's talking about the entry and they're still around an active today sect of Esoteric Christianity who really important in making astrology accessible in the early twentieth century right win demetre taught Greek at Kepler college when I was there like a decade ago for example we used this book the basics of Biblical Greek by William Mounts in the first place he rejoices since the breath of life comes into being through the word and the word of course the Greek word is logos is the or other ancient languages because it comes in handy but this is one of the areas where because the hellenistic texts the surviving texts on Greek astrology were written of that today in some Esoteric Christian sex for example the road secretions right late nineteenth century early twentieth Eh. Yeah I mean it is an interesting though just the fact that it's the technical term for exultation contrasted with technical term for fall and what their motivations for arguing for or against a given a perspective are in all of this yet and two points really quick one exploring the use of fame Monday as a catechal tool within a particular Christian so we do know that there are Christians of logos as the ordering principle of the universe I think that's that's my point of departure for a pro astrology her so this is another situation I think in which the testimony is not unified at all so we really do have to pay attention to who is speaking we Trent we've translated it as students it said I don't know if it was a good translation but this is the rough translation it says and when the star of Mercury is present coin or New Testament Greek yeah yeah exactly exactly and and we can speak more to this later but I think that that idea leave is his name Yup yeah you got that one just on my shelf which is just amazing because so many of the technical terms that they use in the New Testament aversion to embodiment seems to be a really prevalent theme within Hellenistic Philosophy for whatever we're just funny that the two thousand years later that still some technical term that we use today in it's just through inserted in there you do sort of wonder and then of course we there's also in the first century BC through the seventh century CE that's the same essentially type of Greek that the New Testament is written and so physically incarnated in the body that that carries with it certain isues and that it's when when you're in the body that the planets and the fate in twelve houses in the significance of the houses and the different planets that have their joys and the twelve houses there's this one sentence insights that US at there is one Kosh I can't remember the scholars name at all ballot somewhere in my email inbox there's this wonderful research paper Well Paul's Hellenistic priorities right and his enter change with Helen mystic philosophy imported a lot of body problems into Christianity that were not necessarily endemic to the Judas yeah yeah body adversity or body of versity on adversity body when we try that again Collagen Christianity between saying will the planets have influence over the body but you have free will or your soul or your intellect south free of that and it seemed like already the the Greek Greek thing is really cool which there's more astrologers that would go back to school to learn Greek or had that sort of background or even Latin or to a lesser extent Arabic what are some of that essentially let's see or I mean I'm trying to think because I know I can have real influence over that and this led to some later distinctions especially in like later attempts to reconcile us we have some of those debates starting to come up really early and some of these like I dish century Christian taxed in terms of their preoccupation with like the the body when we're engaging in these conversations that Christianity started as a Jewish sect which was not afraid of embodiment right okay that is something that talk about in terms of the astrology some of the negative implications of that where he it essentially emerges from him Russian 'cause I wanted to make another point about that I guess it was just one of the issues that comes up some early authors like the one that we were just talking about Christianity or or or a bridge between the two worlds for sure okay what was the previous thing they were just talking about before the Greek what we're translating as word there but there's just all sorts of little terminology there that comes up in the New Testament you get this really interesting parallel when you have that background in a celestial spirits by astro entities by planets and stars and other forms of creation right so for Paul assertion that the physical body itself is bound by law and when Paul uses law there in his I think I think Paul is some issues with the idea of the body in like physical incarnation in this just being a thing that was restored his view is that while I think it can be argued that one possible view of Paul is that he views awed the experience of God as being separate from everything that is being administered within the realm of a law and I think dens e the different things that he means in some cases he means the Jewish law the Torah but in other cases he means the law as administered by thing when we try to square that against the Jewish understanding of material creation as the things by created beings he is dispensing with everything having to do everything that restricts essentially the human mind from experiencing you got all of this this body nonsense that humans that Christians embroil themselves in terms of sexual shame in terms of Listen I haven't quite figured out and my own reading and research but it was not a feature of Judaism and I think that's one of the things that we absolutely have to keep in our back pocket his rejecting everything that has to do with the Jewish ritual law which is very embodied and has to deal with bodies he is rejecting everything that has to do with the law of and so there's this clear rift in the first century emergence of Christianity out of Judaism are we start to get confused about what is the body to Christianity but we also see coming up in some of the nonstick sex and some of the even in her medicine is this real idea that when you're in God and for Paul that was the body and for for many other religious traditions that also seems to be the body but this becomes really challenging being fundamentally good right so if you go all the way back to genesis got calzone Oh that's good that's good that's good that's good that's very good the whole thing's good from the very beginning fate either neue or midday whichever definition of fate you're using that is administered by created some once winds Christianity emerged right so I would summarize his like antibody negatively the either inept or malevolent are cons of this universe of the Cosmos right right and that reminds me of there's that famous what is the role of embodiment. What is the role of incarnation and of course as a result of that we've got a two thousand years purity culture that we're still trying to untangle and planetary spheres into incarnation before you're born and how it's picking up certain qualities and especially certain vices from each of the planets and then it's addition Essen and toxicity and all of that so it goes quite a bit further beyond the astrological implications of embodiment here to even go so far as to suggest that for Paul he is explicitly rejecting everything that smacks of law doc you patients with Preoccupation with the body and like physical sensation vices being negative things exactly because those things are under the influence of things populate the Cosmos and these things these beings appear to exert some form of contingent control over a significant portion of the human race through so this is one of the areas where some of the ideas surrounding sexuality being negative including some sort of stem from is from the this passage in the Corpus Madam the very first Corpus for Madam which is the most important one where it talks about the soul descending through the argument yeah essentially the argument is that S- celestial beings variously called three specific means they control vice they control human behavior and finally they control law and in the Pauline worldview these things these beings act in direct opposition actually at the argument here is that these powers see everything that's going on and what Paul Does Interpretive Louise he takes the Crucifixion of seven deadly sins and the seven cardinal virtues as related to the planets which might be a really interesting dovetail at that point. Yeah that is actually very nice connection it's that they're influencing in you but then when you die you ascend back through the planetary spheres you give back these qualities to each of the planets so in which they're influencing your physical body and physical sensations Yeah exactly which reminds me I think Lynn Bell is getting ready to do a webinar on the the hia elemental forces are high X. Y. or DNA may so rulers Pahlavi's authorities powers all these who participate in the cosmic crucifixion and death and Resurrection of Christ and therefore Through this kind of exchange you are no longer I would have to it's like that's part of the strong cultural backdrop of some of those beliefs as well in terms of different vices that the planets might have control over weight and physical incarnation being something that the planets have control over in that the end control over the physical world and that's one of the reasons why there might be arguments the Christ whom they these beings had crucified in their ignorance that's a direct quote from density peach sixty seven of her book but Dunn's I'm thinking with and I don't have any solid opinions on but it is a fun thought experiment when there are groups of seven trying to line things up got it Sir Asu crucify Christ and in that they prove themselves not to be paid attention to prove themselves not to have any ultimate encarnacion but then you're born and you live your life and your under the control of the planets have influence over you especially through these different predispositions or character trait oh back to this issue of sort of fades and how that's one of the things being attacked it's just especially this idea of the body smick thing this cosmic reality where it's all of the powers that administer this around this temporal world are the ones who you know who crucify Jesus early Christian tax that may be astrology legitimate but that it's not necessarily a good thing and that makes us into the next part which is the sort of it's a it's the devil actually because many astrologers have noted that there may be some connection between the seven traditional planetary bodies in the seven deadly sins yup that's something that I've a person if you get baptized into the faith of Jesus Christ as preached by Paul you'll get exempted from this power because you safe right so there's going to be this great conflagration in the world's going to be set a right and I'll be fine and all these powers will finally be cancelled and you as an individual I mean if the answer is yes then my answers signed me up for that and true and I feel like that if that's even bearing or very oppressive yeah yeah of course and I certainly think that it is a compelling argument my my the reason that I don't authority because they of course all end up conquered in the resurrection and Ascension of Christ Vats Paul's a central argument now the idea in that sounds pretty appealing to me I mean that's that's my fundamental argument is that sounds really appealing if some normal person who's hearing that off the street it's like things which is kind of like liberation from this broad like complication complicated cosmology that than some instances might feel very over Jesus of Nazareth as the crucifixion of this political criminal and he magnifies it and blows it up to this cosmic as subject to the law that these rulers mentalities powers are administering within time and space now that maybe they're not maybe you can get free of that if you do these specific things and it will erase your birth chart litter something ideas onto like technical terms and that's all going in one year and out the other but what I'm hearing as a normal person is does that mean I'm no longer subject to like mercury retrograde 's and right absolutely true becomes a great selling point for not just Christianity but some of the other colts the other religions that were offering sort of similar sense and this is true of the epistles that we know that Paul wrote his argument is that all Jesus come back really soon he's GonNa Finish fixing everything if that were the main thing the escape from astrological predetermined Azam I've meal like text would have specifically said that go all the way there I do think it was a compelling argument for some people I don't think it was the main thing driving the growth of Christianity simply because I the freedom from astrological determinism it was essentially at its core a revolutionary community right a revolutionary community EVATT was rooted in nonviolent resistance to imperial power for the very first few centuries of Christianity you are not allowed format for the social good and I think that is just as much of a compelling reason to why you know Joe on the corner would be interested in Christianity as much as the freedom up until you left it Christians gathered across lines of social status of race of class of gender of sacks of opportunity I had other good like appealing points to it that would have appealed till like a first century person right I th I think Christianity you know in addition to allies the rich with the poor the able bodied with the impaired the the the foreigner with the citizen right rights longer subject to so I don't think the evidence for me the evidence is not satisfactory that that is the main thing that is being communicated here but I do agree ritch and poor and sick and you know all really it comes down to all the wrong people being brought into one room and completely equal from he does suggest that you are no longer sleeves to the powers than the elemental rulers of this world of this age but what he means be a soldier and a Christian if you had to yield lethal force as part of your job you're not allowed to be baptized until you repudiated that it there's a really strong extra biblical Testimony to the fact that these people were working for social re with you that that is probably a compelling argument to somebody who ended up in church on Sunday morning in eighty-five see right right and whatever the like for Astrid they're holding on their property in common they're selling everything they have their living in community with each other they're giving their money to the poor and they are never actually says that much in the texts he never suggests that it's specifically astra logical influences that you are getting exempted is when he says that scholarship has not clear on there are some people who do you know take the interpretation that he is being the astral influences but I'm from astrological feet angle is part of the attraction Yeah Christians are like first century hippies basically is what you're saying century equivalent of like mercury retrograde was wanting to be free of that Yeah and that was the point that we were gonNA debate about that in terms of like me taking that side of the argument and the there are other people who are saying that no it's the other religious traditions of this world that you're no longer subject to or the spiritual traditions of this world about that and how that gets subsumed into the Roman cursive course of honors later on in the development of Christianity but at least at the very beginning these people are Commun- they were that they were persecuted by the Roman Empire courses because they're not afraid of death anymore and if they're not afraid like flattening of hierarchy yeah yeah non hierarchical it it's very non hierarchical of course there is a leadership hierarchy and we in okay yes their first entry hippies and they were censured because they were crossing so many taboos that was one of the reasons you because you feel like there's other things that were appealing to Christianity and we don't need to put it all on this one thing it's getting birth birth chart getting free of astrology that Christine the death that makes them very hard to control One of the Taboos they regularly cross was worshiping in graveyards because they had nowhere else to go but part of the early well even talks about this he talks about the transition of the body from being simply physical to something that as super physical something about as in mythos was this idea of the defeat of the Arcand of death and if you WanNa talk arcangues that's the big one that Christians were celebrating victory over in the eight of death in the resurrection of Jesus from the dead it wasn't necessarily Oh we die in we go to heaven that's fine it's like no death gets turned backwards death is cancelled and life does continue after death but there's also this really strong beliefs in the first centuries of Christianity in the literal body bodily resurrection and was first centuries of the existence of Christianity you know was death because of the belief of life after death no it was the so there's that whole tradition that I think is probably a bigger circle on the ven diagram than getting out ups but in astronomical impossible clips at the resurrection of Jesus in that's almost like a citation or an instance of or an illusion almost sure the it's the double argument because one of the ones that's really funny than historically is Saint Augustine who writes a few centuries not have been an eclipse I think that is common apocalyptic imagery actually that's drawn straight out of the Hebrew Bible but yeah essentially there is Christian and that Christianity took over in the ancient world and maybe adopted more level headed like natural historical conclusion of there are many different elected that he's coming at the subject at so did we touch on this idea about like diamonds and that being part of the cultural context that was going on in this time the most interesting from a conceptual standpoint because he doesn't try to lake dismiss and say that astrology isn't real he says that it's real but he just says that it's church but as well the Roman Catholic Church today tends to celebrate a land on in the celebration of Holy Week and Easter is that you know it's not as much about you know period that those were some of the things that were operating in terms of the environment or the law that was seen to be somehow keeping the order in check I'll keep keep working on that problem sizing sure so let's expand a little bit we're almost finished with that part of completely unlike the bodies that we have now but as both physical and spiritual things strategies sometimes site is something about like an Eclair the law in terms of the powers and principalities that administer the law that administer this kind of you know actors and it was complicated and this may have been one contributing factor of many that's where island but you're welcome to Leandra wherever you want Chris okay some sort of influence on yeah yeah and that that really is a a further articulation of what we already touched on in terms of order as it is where it's like yeah there was belief especially coming from the tradition for example of these interest of astrological fate had I think they are both valid attractors for sure sure may tone down the astrology is basically the reason the work of the devil essentially the or the work of demons and even says or tries to claimed he was a former astrologer himself and which is really interesting in terms of his the sense of like nature itself being inverted and the crucifixion and Resurrection and that is actually what a lot of the him nitty of especially the eastern Orthodox like good ones and bad ones but that sometimes in some of those different traditions those are almost like the operative power through which the planets are exerting mediary spirits that are operating between the world of man and higher levels or the even the planetary realms that the diamonds are like intermediaries authors of This idea of non corporeal intelligences or non human intelligences angels and demons are both that kind right so neutra being turned on its head in some ways through the reser resurrection yet it's more that that's really at the crucifixion Okay there would the positive version of that with the concept of Lake Angels as intermediaries right exactly exactly Within Christian theology we have the idea and there's not a lot of direct scriptural discussion of the Guardian Angel but there is actually this lovely of astrology and attacks on his strategy which there's at least three or four major ones which are Cicero sexton empirical than Saint Augustine. Augustine is the latest in his ooh yeah the whole idea of diamond and certainly subsumed into that first and second century critique of the knee disciples is imprisoned and he miraculously gets out of prison and people see him and they think Oh that must be Peter's diamond later and he is interesting because he's one of the if you try to do and when these days on a do an episode on just ancient Roman critiques are also of course throughout the acts of the apostles these kinds of angelic interactions that happened with non embodied intelligences that of course the word diamond gets calct into the English word demon but diamond itself does not necessarily mean passage in the acts of the apostles that describes a a scenario in which Peter who is one of the original spirit disembodied spirit of some sort exactly exactly okay so that again becomes part of that broader like cosmo about you know getting free of all of this complex machinery that you're born into your born into physical incarnation unto the control over administered by the planet so then it becomes again potentially going back to this sort of broader astrological cosmology that's being taken into account now the gospel of Matthew is written to a Jewish audience and we remember of course at this point the the closest thing that we have really to the diamond proper within Christianity is the idea of a Guardian Angel which is the bound and eventually like the concept of the diamond gets turned into something that's almost entirely negative in Christianity although we sometimes see traces medical stuff of like ideas that exist in the engine oral that are sometime like tied into astrology and that some times are perhaps implied when when some of these early authors are talking horse legitimises his right to rule to be the Aug Caesar by publishing his horoscope and he puts the capricorn emblem on his currency Paul was really against yes Paul as part of the is the diamonds but then again a first century audience would have understood that the diamonds are potentially the alignment of the planets the moment of my birth were very prominent and showed that this was meant to happen and I was meant to be the emperor of the entire Roman Empire are working for the good they're working for the good guys right so so that is certainly something that has been part and parcel of Christian theology for quite some time can you expand on that point he published his horoscope because you may have received predictions earlier that said that he would be eminent as a result of that Jesus died on me get to go to heaven and get our get out of Hell Free Card Punch it's no that Jesus actually cancelled death by dying that must be his angel right that must be the spiritual representative that kind of looks like him but we know it's not because he was in jail but it's actually Peter Mary Thematic Ideas Throughout Matthew's Gospel is the idea of the Kingdom of Heaven and throughout Matthew's Gospel involve themselves in so essentially the gospel of Matthew has of course the star of Bethlehem narrative the dictatorship but of course Caesar Augustus has a successor is still writing that and his reign of course is also imperilled by Augustine as the first Roman Empire Emperor as you know just unit that was always going to happen or something like that but his his rise and rain was very precarious history Judea is occupied by Rome and it's during the time of the Roman Emperor Caesar Augustus right who his rising sun exactly right and so we get this narrative in the beginning of Matthew's Gospel that has everything to do with an really quick I hit to keep interrupting there's like lots of instances where that could've gone wrong or where he could have not pulled that off a Kim pulling that often turning a republic into a dictator democracy essentially the Kingdom of Heaven is set up as an alternative to the empire of Rome right so there's this dichotomy between the Kingdom of Heaven Kingdom of Rome time to touch on this because I think this is actually one of the arguments for astrology as one as legitimate phenomenon and to as something that is licit for Christians to Casino of Heaven Kingdom of the world you know Jesus as a good benevolent kind self-sacrificing ruler so it was the strategy was being used sometimes as a justification for authorities who are setting up putting themselves forward because we think in retrospect beginning of that Gospel as as a nod to the astrological legitimation of Jesus Position Right so to be made for why the author of Matthew's Gospel included the major narrative at the beginning of the at the astrologers from the east are not condemned at all but in fact are the first people besides Shepherds and Poor People Gospel which has written to Jewish audience who is under the rule of Caesar Augustus and Caesar Augustus successors of course one of the primary an livestock who find Jesus right are I think that's a really compelling that's a compelling tee up for what I mentioned earlier about commentary that should not be overlooked to anyone who is reading Matthew's Gospel for sure but the fact that right so people are oh he's he's them for because the star said so right right 'cause like `Capricorno probably his moon sign or some people have speculated or maybe right but they are showing up they're using these quote unquote illicit arts to discover the truth I feel like that's a really strong You know his intentions to do that. Why do I believe that Jill Julius Caesar was the first of the emperor's to rise into into a dictatorship was quite a coup and him using astrology in publishing his birth chart was one of his means of propaganda and as of justifying if you have these foreigners come into Judea and say where is he that is born king of the Jews for we have seen his star Ritu of the instability that accompanies him throughout his life so he publishes his horoscope to legitimate his rule right read so that brings us to me attacked him by understanding that they need to get out of dodge by way of a different road this a it's something that makes Matthew in the first century who has the story at the very beginning of his work which gives an astrological justification for Jesus right versus Caesar Augustus as of course another one of these top of the pyramid figures and so there is a really strong political case this building like somebody who is really important and using astrology in the concept of Natal Astrology Front and center in order to legitimize that this guy take a purely historical and even like non believer standpoint and we have this very early Christian writer whoever wrote or not condemned for what they're doing but rather are celebrated as people who both find Jesus and pay homage and the best case scenario if you are like a believing Christian who thinks that this is describing an actual historical event it means that there was some sort of astronauts advocation for the fact that we can't just put astrology astrology in in in the bad pile if we're trying to figure out oh you know group of astrologers from the east were literally led to the birth of Jesus and showed up there right from the start and gave him gifts and laughed and then actually avoided doing something negative to him which would should the king at the time was attempting to to lead them into accidentally get rid of a little tour before he threatens his throne so there is this really strong political commentary within that astrological that that for me is my initial point of departure you know here's this really strong narrative that serves a powerful narrative purpose within Matthew's Gospel and these as you sit and think with that idea for some time for sure yeah I mean either at the very least like worst case scenario if a spirit that is evil clot evil right just it's just a word for non human intelligence right or like a the showed up at that time that was indicating something good and you really run into an issue there if you want to attempt to portray that negatively somehow and I know that like the the whole Christian movement inviting all the wrong kind of people to the table right so these were foreigners these were people who had no responsibility either to Rome or to Judea off set of rules for existence in temporal realm this is one of the things that John was railing against then the as a result of his birth charts that he felt like his birth Tartan publishing it legitimized to some extent his reign that this was predetermined and that this chart that's right that's right all right it's I'm UC wanted to circle back at some point to the Nativity Story in the Gospel of Matthew with this big time to touch on that yes that would be astrology story that both sanctions that astrology is real and paints the astrologers in relatively positive light at the very beginning of Jesus mickle alignment at the birth of this person at the birth of Christ and that three astrologers it actually doesn't specify three but some they gave up strategy afterwards really like lame attempts to reinterpret the story like that but you know that aside it seems like a Oh and pop it right here in two thousand nineteen because VAT cosmetology I don't think is as defensible today based on what we know cosmology and his whole argument that that baptism exempts you from astrology baptized people with no knowledge of nor any story essentially yeah exactly exactly and I think that this is where this conversation as to whether astrology scientifically but also based on what we know in terms of expanding sense of integral reality Are you saying that we cannot take every passage from the Bible in in Christianity are really comes

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Episode #10: Buying A Modern Challenger For My 40th Birthday

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Episode #10: Buying A Modern Challenger For My 40th Birthday

"Well folks we've made it to episode number ten. Thanks to all of you out there listening and thanks to those of you who have helped spread the word about this podcast through facebook instagram Graham. And by telling all your friends about this show I really appreciate the support for episode number ten. Today we have project of the week and of course listeners. Stories to close us out today I talk about wanting modern challenger since two thousand and eight and then I go through my thought process of picking the Challenger that I eventually want to bring home to my collection. Shen now this may not happen today. This may not happen tomorrow but in a short amount of time you know in the grand scheme of things I have made a goal all for myself for the next five years to bring home a modern challenger. Now you may be thinking to yourself. Five years is a long time. Well I also have two WHO Other mopeds projects in the garage that take priority but once those get on the road and I'm having fun with them. I'm going to bring home a modern challenger. Let's just get right into it. You are listening to the best moped enthusiasts driven podcast on planet earth. And I'm your host. Chris Albrecht better known as the moped hunter. And this is talking talking mopus. You're listening to talking with the car. Hunter take your direct mention. All things MOPE. Aw thank you guys we are in the double digits for episodes of talking Mo- pars. How cool is that? This has been really fun. And it's GonNa Continue. Continue to get even better. I've actually been reaching out to people in the Mo- Park community to come on the show and have a conversation with me for direct connections and surprisingly a lot of people have reached back and that is great. I am so happy about that. I'm really excited to get him on the show and Talk Mo Pars. That's what this is about. 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It's listed as a nineteen sixty eight. This thing is bright red giant hood scoop and although listen is a nineteen sixty eight it does have a sixty nine front end on it because the hood kind of peaks up and so does the front end a little bit. And that's how you can tell the difference between nineteen sixty seven. Sixty eight sixty nine to sixty. Nine hines have the pointed front end. This one is a sixty eight. All of the marker lights and side view mirror. All of those are gone so it's hard to detail other than you know if I was to. Just look at this car as it is without knowing what year was I would assume it's a nine hundred sixty nine because of the front end but it's actually listed as a a sixty eight so we're gonNA take this guy's word for it it's Tub. Its got a side exit exhaust. This thing is bad to the bone. It's got lexcen windows racing seats it's fully caged. I'm assuming that every panel on this vehicle just based on looks alone is all fiberglass. But let's get into the add two chassis Barracuda Roller for sale. No passes since restoration perfect for no prep. This car is currently in turnkey form and I have about route seventy thousand and building this car but all of the calls I was getting were wanting to put their own drive training. So I'll pull the engine and transmission and sell ready for your drive train. I'll leave all electronics including the ignition. Box I'll leave the radiator all take the motor transmission torque converter and flex plate this car features base coat slash clear coat. That was clear sanded. Dana rear end narrowed. For Seventeen in slicks tube chassis by JEFFERS FIBERGLASS FRONT CLIP FIBERGLASS DOORS FIBERGLASS DECK LID ALL ALL LEXINGTON WINDOWS Kirke seats all electronics and MS D. seven Al ignition rack and Pinion steering fabricated dash build with gauges nas bottles and rack aluminum radiator Cheetah three speed shifter driveshaft for Mo- par big blocking seven twenty-seven fuel-cell dual twelve volt batteries electric fan. Four wheel disc brakes switch box. You simply drop in your engine transmission and converter bill the bottles and head to track. You couldn't build this car for twice that thirty thousand I want. I know I joke last week on the sixty eight unfinished race car project and I said you know you watch street out laws and you want to build one of those cars for yourself and go street racing. This car is set up for drag racing period. You could take this thing on the street. Although although I don't condone that you can take it to the track but I mean this guy. It looks like no expense was spared. It looks like a lot of time and money went into building this car and if it if it was me and I had the funds to buy this car I would buy it. I would finish it and for the engine I would. I really want to see what a twin turbo third generation Hemi is capable of in a lightweight. Racecar like this Barracuda. I am a big fan like I said last week of the superstock darts and Barracudas and this thing is a whole new level it it is very very clean and it looks like it was really well built. I am not a race car fabricator so I cannot speak the level of quality but just from what I'm seeing. It looks like a lot of care time and planning was put into the build. It is a very very very very clean race car. So if you're looking to go to the track with something that even looks past standing still. I think this Barracuda might be the one for you. The Nice thing about buying a car like this that if we can assume that everything was done right and it was built correctly. This is the type of car that you could save a lot of money on based on out the thirty thousand dollar investment and not having to spend this guy claims to Have about seventy thousand and building this car. So that's a forty thousand dollar savings if what he is saying is accurate now. Sometimes when you get these ads you wonder how truthful truthful they are but looking at the guys pictures I see the car in a very clean shop and it has one of those bubbles around it so it's like a A coon like a plastic capsule for the car to keep dust off of it dirt and all that stuff so clearly. This gentleman takes care of his cars. But if you look at the other cars in the similar you know inflatable capsules. You can see that. He's got a wing car. He's got a super bird he's got. It looks like a e body and a newer challenger that also Almost looks like a drag pack challenger. But I'm not quite sure but you can tell that this gentleman has some money so that most likely means that he did not cheap out on the build so you can assume home. Of course you'd have to go and look at the car person but just based on the pictures you can assume that it was built well and that he does in fact have more money in the car. Are they asking. You can actually save money by buying this car so those are the types of things that you need to keep in mind when looking at a race car. If that's what you want to get yourself into I think it looks great and if I had thirty thousand dollars I definitely would buy. And that's why it's project car of the week. It's hard to find race cars like this. That are so well built if we can assume that there's going to be a lot of assumptions with these project cars because we're not there in person we're looking at Internet pictures and you and I both know how Internet pictures this can be deceiving but based also looking at so. The car is a picture of the car on Jack Stands Okay and he must care about it. Because he's he's got rags on the Jackson's so you can tell that he's trying not to scratch the paint so he's probably got a high quality paint job on it. That probably cost a lot of money. I'M GONNA go ahead and assume that this car was very well built if you look at some of the fabric on it like the tin work on the interior and the fitness of these fiberglass panels and all looks very okay. Well done which is kind of hard to do with fiberglass panels but from what I can see it looks really good. The cage looks well built. It just looks set up very very well. So if it reme- I would definitely invest in this car and like I said I put a third generation Hemi in it twin turbo. Let's see what this baby we can do. Save some money by this for thirty thousand. Spend another thirty thousand. Get an engine built and Haywar off to the races. That's project car of the week With project car of the week. I don't have any specific parameters other than I try to find cars. That aren't one hundred per cent done on. That's what makes him a project all right so you know you're gonNA find project cars on this show that are cheap and and some that are very large investments but all of them have a little project essence to him and this is one of them. But if you're looking for a race car in Oh to go drag racing Thrash the quarter mile. This may be the car for you. So take a look at it. I posted it on the Mo par hunter on facebook. Take a look. It's bright red. You can't can't miss it. Check it out. I have to listeners stories this week and the first one was sent to me by my friend from Work Rowland also known as row row a row house. Going Buddy. This one's for you. So this is rose story about how his family got hooked on mopeds before I tell the story I just want to say that this is actually you. The story as told by Rollins. Dad So here goes I wrote. I was stationed at Wurzburg. Germany from nineteen sixty eight to nineteen ninety nine assigned with the thirty four th military police detachment my duties as the military police. Provost Sergeant is to oversee the military police desk sergeant operations and patrol activities. There is a non-commission enlisted club where dad would go and play high low poker during my off duty activities and responsibilities. There are two winners to this game. The person with the highest hand and the other the lowest hand the five players would raise each other and this creates a huge pot. The only poker hand that a card player could win the pot. What is called the wheel? It is a straight flush. Ace Two three four and five. The person with the high hand would bet and the person with low hand would raise the other card players would call or arrays this goes on and on until the other three folds or drop out on this day. Dad held the wheel. I would bet than he would raise identified raise pot limit it and as a rule only three raises allowed. When I raised the third time he did not have any money to cover my raise? He asked me if he can cover my raise with his nineteen sixty five live Barracuda. I accepted and called my hand. I threw my hand down to show him what I had. He almost crapped his pants. He had a very good hand. He had a full house. If if I had an ace two three four and five with different face cards we both split the pot this situation. I had the high hand and low hand. I drove that car all all over Germany France and Spain. When Dad received a call that your grandmother was very ill I put in an emergency leave to Hawaii? The car was also sent their later. I was assigned to Fort Lewis. Washington in the car also went with me. I ended up giving the car to your brother Robin. So that is Rowland's Dad's story and and I don't know how many stories are out there. Where Imo par one in a card game so Roland Your Dad is? Hey I mean he's winning Mo- Parse it doesn't get much better than that I don't know how many people out there if you've ever won a Mo- part in some mm sort of gambling in some sort of a gamble. I want to hear that story. That is very cool Roland I have the utmost respect after your father. I don't know if I can say the same for you. Just kidding buddy. Thanks for sending in Your Story Tell Your Dad. I enjoyed it very much and I'm sure the listeners of this show will enjoy that very much. I mean how many people can say that. I won a MO- part in a card game. That is really cool so that his awesome. Be Sure to tell your dad rolling that I thought it was cool. Thanks for sending your story. Our second listeners story this week comes from Doug Boyce Hi. Hi Chris Great. podcast appreciate what you're doing for the most part community. I will continue spreading the word to friends about the podcast story of my nineteen. sixty-nine Charger Artie S. C.. Four forty four speed. I found an ad in the newspaper. classifieds twenty three years ago for a nineteen sixty-nine charger for forty for sale. Seventy two hundred no weather info. This is when people took out ads in the weekly newspaper. classifieds there was not much internet traffic at the time in regards to Carcelle. Usually you had to find these in the newspaper or wait for the local auto trader. Come out I contacted. The person in spoke with his wife. She stated her husband could drive the car to work the following day so that I could come and look at it unbeknownst. unbeknownst to me he worked at the Flint stamping plant in Flint Michigan. I drove up to see the car. The following day it was parked in the flint stamping plant assembly yard. Somewhat rough area in here sits the sixty nine charter. After walking up to the car it was obvious it was more than a plane charger. There was RT badges on the grill rear of the car. I also noticed SC Z.. Badges on the sale panel looking inside the window there was a large pistol grip. Gun handle shifter sticking out of the council knock correct for the year but exciting nonetheless. There was mud all over the car from the person driving it to work that day. I open the hood in decoded. The data plate car was rt se. Four forty four speed Dana in a car made in hamtramck excess VIN originally a triple green stripe delete car now triple black. Paint was decent. No Rust or rot whatsoever. I I contacted the seller went to his house. The following day and purchase the car on the spot was also given extra seats exercise glass and miscellaneous parts that my wife wondered why we needed. Ll took the car to a local used car. Lot the following week to get appraised this used car dealer used to sell old muscle cars. He walked around the car and noticed a few things about that look familiar. He went into his office and came out with a picture which was about five years old at the time of my car that I just purchased. He states that he brought the car back from California to in Michigan and was the person who sold it to the gentleman that I bought it from. He actually gave me that older picture of the car. Since that time I've replaced the motor transmission and the usual parts. It's in pieces for the car. Currently has four ninety six muscle motor stroke or with solid Cam. It'll brock aluminum heads ten and a half to one compression pump gas. I have a picture of my my son who was two years old at the time poking his head out the window. He is now twenty six and he drives the car regularly and also helps me work on the car. I enclosed a picture of my son when he was as little as a video of him now. Driving it twenty four years later I'm in the seventy challenger as we went for a cruise. Thank you for your podcast. Great Info you provide and will continue to listen Doug Doug Doug thanks for sending in your story what a deal seventy two hundred dollars for an original sixty nine nine. RT as he four forty four speed car that is cool Although it is no longer the original triple green which. I'm actually a a fan of that color combination. It is very cool that it is now triple black I'm not mad at black. I think black is a great color especially for a charger. And it's good that you still have the original fender tag. That's always good for documentation purposes. And it's awesome that your son has been with the car since he was young. That is very very cool to. I always say that. It's great getting kids involved when they're young with these cars because it's something that they will take with them for the rest of their lives and it's Cooler Hulu let him drive. It sounds like a little bit of a monster with a four ninety. Six big block stroke over. That's cool and the nice thing about a car. That Eh was already modified when you got it or that was not necessarily one hundred percent original stock. You know what I mean. I sometimes like those cars because it allows you to make it your own and to modify it to be the car you want it to be and not necessarily what the factory wanted it to be so. It's not always a bad thing when cars are built off of the fender tag as far whereas you know when it's triple green car and somebody goes you know what I hate that color combination. I'm a do triple black. So that's cool. I don't have a problem problem with that. You know what I mean especially if your whole purpose is to enjoy the car and you're not looking at it as a long term investment for originality because has that's out the window you know so with a car like this you can do what you want to it because it specialty you and you're not concerned about the end value. That's always cool thing. So you know very cool charger. I like the pictures and I liked the video a lot really fun and Dan. It's good to see that your kid is driving the car a lot and he's enjoying it you know. There's a lot of kids these days that don't care about cars at all. They'd they'd rather take an uber or lift you know instead of actually driving themselves so it's good to see the enthusiasm from the younger generations. I'm only thirty five or going on thirty five. I should say so when I meet other young people that are into these cars in our really piqued my interest because because it ensures that the Havi will stick around and that it won't fade away so as long as young people you know those forty and under keep these muscle cars alive and keep pulling him out of barnes out of fields out of backyard's you know and we keep save save in these cars than the hobby will continue for years to come and I don't think that it will ever stop. I think there's enough of US around now. That are still bill younger that really care about these cars and really WanNa see them. Rebuilt and you know saved. So that's always cool. Thanks again Doug for sending sending in your story thanks again to roll in for sending in his story and that does it for listeners. Stories this week. Keep sending a man if you have have a great listener story. Whether it's short or long I get a lot of people apologizing for long stories. That's okay I don't mind I just may not be able to this year more than one on an episode. But that's cool no big deal. I'm actually thinking about having another episode of mostly listener stories because I've been having so so many sent to me that they are piling up fast and I don't want people waiting too long before they get to hear their story. Because that's it's always fun to hear your story on a podcast cast or a radio show or even on TV. It's that kind of stuff is always cool so I wanna make sure that you all are encouraged to keep sending them in. You know it's not gonNA be a year before you hear your story. I'm going to get to him sooner than that. So thanks to all of you. Who have sentenced stories in the past? And thanks to to all of you. Who are thinking about sending your story go ahead and do it because we will get to it and the whole world of Mo- par will get to hear your story so cinnamon Chris at Talking Mo- Parts Dot com the year? It was two thousand. Eight and rumors had been circulating about a new challenger since the concept car was officially revealed in two thousand. Six being a fan of Mo- pars my whole life and being genuinely disappointed that the return of the charger brought us Is a four door sedan. The News of Avenue Challenger returning to Dodge's lineup was game changing for me. Now I do want to say that. I do like the charger but I really hoped hoped for a two door muscle car from dodge so when the charter came back as a four door it was cool having a charger but there was just something about the four. Order that bummed me out that it wasn't a two door you know when I think of dodge charger I think of the coke bottle shape iconic shape of a charger. Roger and adding two more doors to that design really threw me off. But that's okay thankfully dodge was listening to the enthusiasts and I and they green lit a new challenger when I finally saw this car It was still a concept and it was on the cover of a couple of different car magazines and I knew that someday I would have to get my hands on one. The modernized Challenger was absolute perfection. To Me and while technically weekly very different from its legendary predecessor. There was no denying that this car was true to the design of the original but updated for the modern era. It absolutely carried the essence of the seventy challenger Brome which was inspired and I've wanted modern challenger. Ever since but I I always find myself buying more practical vehicles for daily driving. As of late in the last couple of years I finally decided that unless run across an unbelievable deal on a classic Mo par on another one. Because I already have to my next car you know. Technically I just said I have to who classic Mope Ours but technically if you count all the eighties Mo- pars that my dad and I have it's much more than that but we'll just go for two for now so unless I come across a crazy deal another classic mo par. My next car is definitely GONNA be a newer challenger. The only question I ask myself is which which one do I want. So there's plenty of options from two thousand eight all the way to now in two thousand twenty. There is all sorts of different package cars that you can get from dodge you can get Essy's Essex tease SR RT eight TS. Hell cats hell cat. Red Is scrap packs. Demons are teas. There's just so how many different challenges to choose from and I WANNA make sure that the one that I buy is one that I wanNA keep a long time you know. I don't WanNa get something thing and then think to myself all I could have gotten this one if I just waited so what I've done is I've told myself that in five years. I'm thirty five now when I turned forty. I'M GONNA buy myself a birthday present. And that birthday present is going to be a modern challenger. Now ideally daily it would be the eight hundred forty horsepower. Daemon but I mean I can't possibly ignore the fact that it is the fastest production car on earth but with prices in the six figure range. It is realistically out of my reach. It's the baddest modern dodge to ever roll off the assembly line. And I can't pretend that I wouldn't absolutely love to own one but it's just too rich for my blood that's all there is to it at least now unless I run across a seeds for money trees that I guess I'll have to settle for something a little bit lesser than Demon and. That's okay my runner up to the demon is the new health at Redeye. While not quite as fast as the demon it is still very cool in its own right. And that's even if it only the house. Seven hundred and ninety seven horsepower comparatively to the demons eight hundred forty. But I love the hood scoops on the Hell Cat red is they really remind me of a modern version of the old twin hood. Scoops bound on classic mope our muscle cars so like the the coronets supervie's and you know the Dart swingers and the original demons. You know those twin hood scoops. I think that the hell cat read I really is. Is the hood on the healthcare. Red Eye is the perfect. Modern iteration of those classic Twin Hood Scoops so I think that's very cool just to sidetrack back for a second. How about them wide bodies offered on the new challenges chargers? Wow I know that not. Everyone is a fan but I think they are are pretty Rad and when I saw the demon come out and it had the wide-body on it I was like. Oh you know 'cause a few years ago acquired a few years ago now there's is a company called Liberty Walk and they created. I believe they were the first wide body kit for the challenges. Now in my opinion it looked a little Godley. Now I guess it depends on the color and the setup of the car but I was like ads just a little bit too much for me but when I saw the wide-body the on the demon I was like okay. So it's more like flared fenders and it just made a Chunky car even chunkier so I really liked the new factory wide-body cars so when Dodge announced that the SCAP we're GonNa get him and you could get him on hell hell cats and even the chargers you can get wide bodies. I was really excited so I know it's not everybody's favourite look but I like wide bodies I can't help it. They seem to just add the right amount of Chunky nece to a car that already has a massive presence on the road and I like having wide bodies as an option but back to the hill cat red eye unfortunately with an MS RPM of basically we you know seventy grand it also is out of reach Romy financially that brings me to the hell cat with with seven hundred. Seven horsepower. Got More power than I would ever need in the daily driver. But could I justify the added costs of owning hell cat challenger which is a challenger in the upper echelon of challengers the added costs for me would be insurance fuel and the cost of new tires. I mentioned those added costs. Because let's face it with a hell cap or any challenger in that upper echelon of force-fed challengers the high probability probability of me amassing a collection of speeding tickets. Always having my right foot to the wood and the constant tire shredding that would most likely we occur. I can't deny that they're most likely guaranteed expenses. That's not to say that those costs wouldn't occur in any challenge or less than a hell cat but the addition of super charger makes the odds much greater so with those theoretical costs. Aside the hell cat still remains out of my price range unless I look at like used ones. But I'm open to that. But when hell cats are purchased used. I'd imagine that a majority of them have most likely already had the piss beaten out of and I'd really WanNa be the first to break in my Challenger it's like You know I don't want a sandwich that somebody has already touched or you know taking a bite out of you know. I want my own. But if I can't have a supercharged six point two liter Hemi under the hood because of financial reasons I really have to consider what the purpose of Vanu Challenger would actually be for me. Why do I even want one? Well because I think they look awesome and once they came out back in two thousand eight and and I still don't have one so how much I want to spend is another question. I have to ask myself. And ideally anything less than the hell cat price but you know you can get a hell cat used. You know it's got. They have some miles on them. But you can get them for around forty to mid forties forties. I would like to spend less than that. You know unless I'm buying a brand new car. Then that's understandable but I doubt I'll even be able to afford that in five years mostly because you know as well as I do soon as you buy a brand new cars in as you drive it off the lot bump bump on you lose some Value in it you know. It's the depreciation off the lot. That would kill me but how much can actually afford is another story and right now. Well I'm not buying a challenger right now or anytime soon released so these are just things that I'm considering when thinking talking about my eventual purchase and the amount of time between now and five years from now that amount of time really opens the door to more possibilities but I'm still debating on what Challenger I WOULD WANNA buy. There are a a few options under the hell cat. That would most likely be more practical for my situation. And that hurts me to say because you shouldn't have to think about practicality practicality when buying a muscle car but it's something that I need to consider so being open minded I should consider the lowest challenger in the hierarchy Arche of challengers the V six model. Now I actually had the opportunity to spend a little over a week in a new challenger. Essex T. when my current daily driver however a two thousand twelve Ram fifteen hundred was in the body shop getting repaired after I was rear ended while definitely not the fastest car I've ever driven the S X T was definitely fun to drive. I don't feel like they are underpowered. With the V six at all but one unthought kept coming across my mind fun the Challenger would probably be a lot funner with more the big selling point for me on a V6 power challenger is that they're extremely affordable even a brand new V six model is well within my ideal. He'll price range but there's just one problem. I know that I will regret not getting a challenger with a Hemi that's not to say that a V6 challenger isn't the right car for you. You may not need or want more power than the visa provides. I just know that for me personally. The V6 wouldn't wouldn't suffice in the long run. I know that I would eventually think to myself. God I just got a Hemi so if I buy New Challenger I plan on keeping it forever therefore I need to make sure that when I buy one. It's the right one. It's the perfect one. Still a lot to consider. Now there's also the challenger Gt which was introduced in twenty seventeen and it's the world's first all wheel drive two door muscle car a very cool car and very good choice for someone concerned about traction in less than ideal road conditions due to weather so I would almost I vote for the Challenger. Gt to be the best option out of all the challenges because you can essentially enjoy it year round but there is one problem again. The lack of a V eight option still the Challenger. Gt may be perfect for you. But it's not quite what I'm looking for. I hope Dodge Raj. Here's the enthusiasts communities request for an all wheel Drive v eight powered Challenger and charger or you know even a new Kuta. That's all wheel drive with you. Know the turbo inline. Six that's rumored to becoming out and replacing the five point seven Hemi. But I digress the next Challenger I would seriously consider would have to be the RT with a five point seven Hemi the Challenger. R T is a car that fits the a bill for me. There's plenty of options to choose from. Of course it's got the Hemi basically everything I want in a modern challenger but again there is a problem bloom this time. It's not that it's not a V.. Eight this time. It's because I know that there's a bigger V8. I know that a three ninety two powered Howard Challenger. That's the six point four liter. Hemi isn't too far off price. Wise from a five point. Seven Hemi equipped one and I've driven a challenger with the six point four three ninety-two heavy and it was more than enough power and tons of fun so I think that would justify me. Not being able to get the supercharged hell cat or above if I just had the maximum amount of power offered by dodge in the normally aspirated configuration. I know deep down that I wouldn't regret buying a three ninety-two Challenger so that's the one I mean I could go back to an early S. RTA Challenger that has a six point one Hemi and save a few bucks but again knowing that three ninety two is available and far more obtainable for me than a hell cat. or or you know any of those upper-echelon challengers why not get the best of what I am willing to spend. I think I would get that in a six point four Hemi power challenger. So that's it. My mind is set but it's not quite that simple. See there are still some questions Russians. I need to ask myself. Do I need to go a few years back and pay less for a used three ninety two challenger that maybe has the older body style and you know the older ones have like fifteen less horsepower. Or do I forgot the extra bucks and get the latest model. You know thinking about all these different options not only with the entire field of choices from two thousand eight until today in twenty twenty but also you know the different options. I get packages but I think I have my mind made up. I'm pretty sure that the Challenger that checks all of my boxes is it's gotta be the two thousand Nineteen Plus Challenger. RT Scott Pack wide-body. It has all the power I need and it's got all all the looks that I want. My second choice would have to be the scat pack. Thirteen twenty it's called the thirteen twenty because that's how many feet are in the quarter Mile Mile and that's what the thirteen twenty was built for. These thirteen twenties are built specifically for the enthusiast. Who Frequents Equi- The drag strip now? I don't frequent the drag strip but if I had thirteen twenty it might give me more reason to make the trek over to the track. The thirteen twenty is a demon short of a demon. No super charger. No Wide Body. But a bunch of the drags Pacific Tech that the demon and has which is awesome. But my Dr is the car that I really want to be my track car the car that I take to the drag strip and if I have to drag strip cars I don't want to have to deal with those life choices you know. I WANNA have a dedicated car that that's the car take to the track. And that's my goal for my dark so I don't think that the thirteen twenty is the right car for me but that being said it is definitely second place on my roster for a new challenger that I WANNA get. I just want to challenge her to help. liven up my commute to and from work and something fun to cruise cruise and I really do think that the Challenger R T Scott Pack wide-body is the Challenger most capable of doing all those things and hey by the time I turned forty. I'm sure I can find a well-cared-for pre-owned one because it's going to be twenty twenty five by the time. I actually buy one and Bara while I considered whether or not I really even wanted a wide body but after seeing one out in the wild I now know that I have to get one of those would I be okay with the regular scat pack. That wasn't a wide body of course but if I was satellite in a Chunky wide-body rolled up on me. I'd probably get a little jelly so to ensure that I never have those feelings. I better just get everything I want in the challenger that I ended up buying. Now what happens when a supercharged challenger rolls up on me like any of the hell cats are demon. My only hope hope is that I can pull whole shot and take the next turn and get off that street. That's my only hope. But let's be honest. If you really want a forced induction powered challenger you can always supercharge a Scott Pack. I drove a three ninety two and I can absolutely tell you that. Even though the supercharged semi's are absolutely ferocious. I don't actually need one. That all said if if I can score a wide body fat in five years for a good deal then we get in boosted baby. But that's all there is to it so there you go. I want want a wide body. Three Ninety two SCAP pack and as far as colors go I'm partial to green. I like efate green I I I liked the sublime green. I think that's cool and you know I guess we'll see in five years you know unless some crazy things happen before then it's going to be about five five years before I get my scalp pack and hopefully by then the wide bodies will come down in price and I can find a clean used one. That hasn't been beat too hard. We'll see in five years. Here's something I want to put out there under the mope our world if you own a modern mo par but we're not necessarily a MO- par enthusiasts before are you owned one. I want to hear about your experience. And what about Mo parse pulled UN. And now that you're in. How has your experience been so if you have any modern earn mopus stories? Send them to me Chris at talking low parks dot com before we shut this podcast down and highly N. -ticipant number eleven the third episode of Twenty Twenty. I want to say that. I've read a lot of posts on social media criticizing the modern challenger and saying that it's just not as cool as the original or to not really a Mo- par Yada Yada Yada. I would never ever feel comfortable calling myself. Mo- pont WHO's if I share those same feelings the original charger. The original Challenger is awesome and the new one although cool can never take away that cool nostalgia of nineteen seventy but that doesn't make the old one any less awesome or the new one on any more awesome. They simply share a bloodline and even in their many differences. You can still see their undeniable similarities. I M happy appear that dodge brought the challenge back in two thousand eight so I will not complain about it. And since it's returned I've noticed that the modern Mo- pars have grabbed the attention of the younger generations. Now which will only fuel the moped enthusiasts community and encourage. Its growth. The only thing I would criticize about modern mopeds cars as far as charges in challengers in any modern mobile for that matter. Is the attendance of the car shows. This is something that bothers me a little bit now. I think good turnouts at car. Shows are great but I would be lying if I said that. It doesn't bother me just the little bit. When people show their stock unmodified modern MOPE ours at a car show? My philosophy is always been if I can go to a dealership and see a your exact car where there's no difference in I can't. I can't even tell him apart. In my opinion you may not be ready to register your car. As a contestant in a car show I would rather see an unfinished project car beater rot box towed to the show on a trailer trailer than a stock. Anything you know. As far as modern MO- parts go. If I can go to a dealership and buy that car I don't WanNa see that at the show because I can go to a dealership to see that you know especially if it stock are they cool. Sure but are they show worthy material. You know that's super debatable. But I know it sounds like I'm throwing a ton of shade modern Mo- pars but this is just my opinion and it's not that I'm throwing shade because I would never or purposefully tried to make anyone ever feel bad about their car. It's just not something I would do. But Hey if that's you you do you. If you you take a stock Mo- partout car show stock new remote par to a car show. You know that's that's you you do you but the most important the thing is that you are a moped enthusiast which I respect and let's be honest it's pretty hard to keep anymo- par one hundred percent stock so yours probably won't stay stock CHR along you know I can't hold it against you too much but I do encourage you to start modifying that thing and really kick your mopey Azam into high gear. That's IT folks. Episode number. Ten is in the books for for more information about the show. Please go to talking. Mo- Pars Dot Com. That's also the best place to send people if you are helping me in spreading the word about the show find me on facebook at the Mo- par Hunter and at talking Mo- pars and also find me on Instagram at the Mo- par Dot Hunter and and at talking Mo- parts. I'm your host Chris Albrecht and that was talking Mo- parse thank you for listening to talking. Mocks your direct connection to all things apart until next Stein remember no more par left behind Ah.

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Episode 42: How to Manage Your Small Business When Life Change Happens

The Common Cents Show

35:06 min | 1 year ago

Episode 42: How to Manage Your Small Business When Life Change Happens

"Well Welcome back number two second dad now. The real parenting. Maybe you need to plug in your mind tricks. Why don't you plug in your mic? Once you start there is l- let's see what happens after you plug in plugging you can see what happens after the microphone out is a working now testing testing testing testing. You like you like the worst co hosts ever man. I'm telling you unbelievable but you know what this why you didn't. I wasn't even really off last week. Yeah me like tied up in a corner like man. You got two kids now. Life is different. How much is the baby sleeping? He's not bad overall. He does sleep but a hill. Like wake up eat sleep. You've got to change him because your wife making it gets every couple of hours we take turns but regardless it's very progressive of Jonathan. Thanks man to take turns trying to do what I can do. How long would that last for? I'll see what she deals with. No sleep like way better than I do really. I'm just so you're trying to talk to Mike Plug. Then so yeah you're right. Yeah exactly starting. Off with a vein. You WanNa try to tell me to buy bitcoin right now. It's like I'm probably buying until like a Ponzi schemers. Well it absolutely is a Pasi scheme. Yeah Welcome back. Thanks man and happy to have another. Nevis in the world. Yeah me to spread my sees you know please will ever stand lessees again on this podcast. It makes me uncomfortable. Doesn't little bit. Yeah that's all I was gonna say it was just GonNa talk about spreading my seed so for the next thirty. Yeah just took away everything that was going to talk about things all right. Let's get this part gas fired up. You're listening to the common sense show just started a new business. Or if you just thinking about this podcast is for Michael Logan and Jonathan Nevis of over twenty years of combined experience successful Vanu vice on. This show is what they've used near businesses from single member organizations to multi millions in revenue as multi operations Michalak. Jonathan Welcome to episode forty two of the comments show Mike. I Am Jonathan. And we're just common guys with business sense sex jar the where can people find us on? Social Media? Yes. They can find us at facebook dot com slash the commonsense podcast instagram at the common sense podcast twitter at sense podcast that C. E. N. T. S. and the show email info at the commonsense podcast dot com. Don't forget to subscribe wherever you get your podcast. Yes subscribe please. Google Music Apple podcast. Stitcher player them wherever you ever. Listen to podcast wherever you listen to podcasts tonight. And don't forget. Join US at the Boston. Small Business Expo on Tuesday seventh at the George Sherman Union Building at Boston University. It is free to attend can network with entrepreneurs thousands thousands of entrepreneurs and business owners over free business workshops speed neck speed networking exhibitors and keynotes from leading industry experts. Nice man it's like you said it's free to attend. It's on Tuesday April seventh at the George Sherman Union Building at Boston University and you can register online at the small business. Expo Dot Com. That's T H E small business. Expo Dot Com. I will lead to happen so today. We're GonNa talk about the entrepreneur life. Why because you just had a change in your life. I thought was appropriate. That we put this in here today. how do you deal with changes in your life shifts life when something new even if it's happy comes up but it's it's more time it's you know having gone from one kid to two kids Tough man you know. It's significantly your workload increases significantly. Still the work still blurry thing. So how do you deal with that? You know when changes happen how do you? How do you adjust for it? How do you manage it? What are some of the things that For instance you put in place and your business if you did anything or prepare yourself anyway way given that your wife works in the business with you before you had the kid. Yeah that was a really big concern of ours because she does a lot. This couple concern so one concern is that she does a lot of work But kind of getting back onto the whole systems part anyways our goal initially when she quit. Mit to come on full-time was that. She would continue to reduce her time at green energy to be at home more and and To spend time with the kids and so forth into raise a family so this is kind of just forcing us to continue on that goal. Anyways right which is nice so you guys are pushing it back pushing back Anna. Yeah and so we were like okay. How do we figure out ways or other people ways? We can delegate a lot of work and so we've been doing that over time. It had to get obviously accelerated now that she was pregnant so we found like for instance bookkeeping company. We do a lot of job costing notes per job to find out what our profit and loss is per job so we had find someone in house that can do that stuff like that and then also like more hats of being worn by other people in the company. But I think it's a good thing because again like it forced us to kind of grow into like an uncomfortable place where it's like man like she's not going to be there to double check everything so it it put more on me to be able to make sure but also I noticed. My office manager has really stepped up in that regard. Where like just for instance twenty minutes ago? She's like guys. I need you to make sure you're like labeling all the receipts for the job so I can put the notes in like she's really on top of it where before she really didn't care about that stuff so right. Yeah the funny thing is that you know you're right about that in the sense that like you have to start creating Systems actually work. So for instance because your wife worked well in your business and she handled everything a certain way in helped business to grow. Your systems can't just be functional. They have to actually be good systems. That actually work in our while. So what when I think when you're establishing when you have these when you have before you have unexpected changes or even expected life changes. We need to be working on our business as if we're going to sell it close it or like we're GonNa have a life change. They can't recover from so like what happens. You Know God forbid of course but what happens if either you or me have a stroke You know and and we're in the business like what happened. Why are you always trying to kill me off? Why can't I just live my best life? You know? I think you only have like according to my actuarial estimates you only have like twenty years left by messed up but you know. My point is like the Mike tells me that I'm GonNa die. Like fifty won't Faisal. It was like fifty six now. It seems like it's dropped to six hundred sixty two. I think he thinks sixty two ethics. Oh like right before you collect security. If it's if it's still that actually does sound like it would happen. Yeah exactly happen. We're retire next month. I mean to be fair though like I think when I go like sixty one so like maybe we'll go together kind of cool. Yeah well not really probably while airplane on the way to like a trade show or something but anyways like you know what unexpected life events happen like this is this is the whole point of getting your your business together And creating a manual a guidebook in operations manual that you can use to pass on somebody that can run your business. That's that's level of efficiency You have to have in your business so that somebody else can actually run your play hundred percent. It's actually started to make us have talks internally about listen like in addition. I'm trying to do the same thing and it's one of my goals. This year is like how can I start to give up some of the work that I'm doing a big job that I do sales so I'm trying to figure out like how can I start implementing someone else to do a lot of sales? You know I don't mind doing it part time if I could give that up. That'll free me up a lot to be able to work on other things to help grow the company so Yeah like What does Mike McCullough wits. The author of clockwork said that you know is the Queen Vero Queen B Roll like. There's only one. There's only one Queen Bee Hive that Queen is the one who lays the eggs for other bees and everyone else has a job that works around that to support the fact that she's laying the eggs for everyone in creating population in so he calls them Queen. B Rolls the person with the with the job of Certain importance is that control. A lot of the function is. And you know you're when you're trying to figure out who will fit these Queen B rolls or your Queen B Roll in general as a company owner like. It's it's really hard. I think one of the hardest things to do is to get. What's in your head on paper? I have no idea why that is. Maybe it's because there's so many nuances that you'd never actually as a starting point probably but I think that one suggestion half for finding that starting point is to just start right documenting everything so what I mean by. That is when you go on like when you go on a sales call for what I did was when I went into the Went to one of my facilities and I was going through like shift or whatever the thing you're doing is you just document everything so instead of trying to figure out exactly what you do write down what you do you know. And then you can pare down later. So for instance. Open the door. Turn the lights put this year? Put that they're put up the computer all the stuff just in just literally document every single step that you take in the function of your job and then you start to pair it down. Pare Pare down into steps so like once you once you go through an entire day In the function of what you specifically do then guest kind of start pulling away the fluff that you like. Oh I walked in and like this I picked up on the floor or something like you could take that stuff out and leader with the main functions but I think the best way to start is just a write down everything that you do you know during the day or you know which you another thing you can do is can just hire somebody. Give him like you know fifteen bucks an hour to fall for the day eight hours. I always explain to people by. Can't they make they can't make them? WanNa fifteen dollars. Basically what you'RE GONNA do is. You're going to have the right out everything that you do for the not. So good actually. It really really helps but that could work and then tell them to make it in the list like okay. I need you to write everything I do in the day and I think when you see that you're gonna be like holy smokes. I want you to write down everything. I did how I did it. You know. And then like they'll they'll be writing and you're just GonNa sit there and do your regular thing and and every time you do something they'll be riding then you can pair it down you know. But that's a great way to start. If you don't know how to create a system for yourself then just write a big volume of something and then go from there. Right so yeah. There's there's that way if especially if you're gonNA keep things internally done that's a really good way Sometimes it might make more sense to do things like externally in just in just outsource for it. And that's in my opinion. Another real easy way to create a system for something. You still have a tavist system to manage that outsource company or person. Whoever you're hiring but that's that's one way to do it. Sometimes it works out better. You know there's a lot of costs associated with hiring like sometimes see systems. You need to have more people that are working in your company to work on these systems and you know you gotta Pay Workman's comp and benefits that especially in Massachusetts Nickname Taxachusetts for a reason. So sometimes it's kind of Nice to just be like all right cool. I have this company. I expect them to do you know. Abcd and I want that done at this deadline that we create so I kinda like it sometimes that as well but I agree with you. That's exactly what I've been doing My sales Am doing this specific job. I just started creating templates for everything So that way I have it all down ready to go off. I do the other thing too is use. We just hired a bookkeeper to and it's it's been hard like I don't know maybe I'm just lazy. I feel like I need to inbetween. Like I want someone to actually do the work for the bookkeeper sending it like you know. I like statements and stuff. Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah it's just like it's so annoying. It's like in this. This is why I stopped with the bookkeeping last. If I needed statements like what do I need you for life during the whole thing again but like it's a bad policy? I think that when you create these systems and you put people in place to execute them then just like you're investing in the stock market like we were talking about earlier. You just leave it in a don't retreat from it. Yeah you know look as look at it as an investment into the future of Your Business and scaling business in the right way you know. Don't like pull back and trying to bring those responsible. I think that's like I always try to. If I'm if we start doing something new. I always try to make that a goal like I know. We're not taking this back lake. It's out there is what it is know I give you a for instance with my wife. not working like so our goal for her coming back is she. She was working four days a week. I want her to work two days a week. Now so I but what does she want? Jonathan toews that's what she was. Okay is it because it's what you ought to listen episode. Good luck it now but no so and that we shall have three days to spend with the family and get things done but my point is kind of cool as giving. She's not even working at now in the company at all so for her to come back two days will actually be likes right by the time she does but this is awesome so she'll probably do more work in those two days in a person would do like a week anyway. I that's kind of like the Emo when you own a company Lego even to myself like I'll being out tons of like three or four hours a week to do it. We're like people working to companies like. Did you get this done yet? Like you understand like I don't know maybe because I don't work by the hour because if you work for the hour like Ceremony jewel right the email up and send it out. Sure I'll get to that tomorrow like me. It's like get it done like milk it. Yeah 'cause you don't get paid any more any less if you don't get it done if it's worse for you because then the other day in addition to everything else you have to do. Yes exactly like I'll work at any time at all. It'll be ten o'clock at five the computer and what's the latest? You work is that is that it. I'll work whenever if I if I get up. I mean great example like I was up with this whole baby situation and she took Jewish lieto. Sounds like a paternity problem. I was working at two in the morning. This baby situation. He's tossing and turning on. I don't know if I was the father so now I don't I don't it doesn't work. We emailing it to in the morning was nice because then your emails like the first one in the morning that they see. I think people like that too. I mean maybe not that late but you know what I'm saying like this Guy Never Sleeps. I WANNA hire him. I think they like it though. Yeah so I think not not clawing back a responsibility that you've given to someone is important And like you said changing the expectation of how you do change the expectation of how much you work on that when you come back as a as a big thing too like when when you know your wife comes back her going down two days that a four. It's just an expectation that only work in two days. It kind of forces you into that. What you gotTA maintain that another way to kind of so in addition in addition to outsourcing and writing everything you down now. I wanted to push back on. Something outsourcing and writing down operations model a two different things you said keep it internal so so what I'm saying is like you need to write it down anyway because you need to create a operations model. Because that's what's going to sell your business if you try to sell your business without operating plan and just on numbers alone. You're going to get less money. Oh Yeah I mean yeah I I agree with that. Yeah so So taking these actions certainly do help drive that but they have to be written down And one of the things we had Vicky Gray on that. You said that you said that you appreciated about her as had her operations model kind of broken out into years. Which is a little aggressive on the need to do that right or is it my project. Yeah she'd like sap every project Interesting which is nice but that is a lot of work and they may be more baseline way to do that and I think that you have to figure out globally. What's going to be the best for your company in general almost. GonNa move it forward. So what do you think is going to be? The result of your wife only work in two days. And then Is this going to force you to analyze your own involvement? Oh yeah regular basis. Yeah I already had 'em out you know I pretty much I mean. I work five days a week but I I pretty much really only work forties a week but if you add up the hours yeah but but I'm trying to like I don't actively go out and do quotes in office stuff or anything. On Thursdays I kinda just I. Am I right a couple emails or whatever and then we do the show? So that's pretty much the whole day like this when you're fully retired. I can't wait dude really. Yeah I love sweatpants and the best. I live my life in sweatpants. It's like it's awesome the problem the problem is like it's hard to tell whether you've gained Las Vegas weapons because they all they fit all the time that's why you can grow or shrink in them without even knowing my wife. Aids at those like you please like dress up some time. Walmart store to buy clothes and like you literally look like a dad bond like all the time like a dad. I think my wife is just got used to my sweats now. Because it's my job but I don't do as much training and stuff as like us to so it's like I don't even know like today like there was no reason for me to wear sweatpants. I could have actually legitimately one close. Yeah Yeah it's funny. Man Like Abbie at alliterative ninety kid. I'll be Walmart looking at sweatpants like all right so these ones are fourteen ninety nine. These ones are twelve. Ninety nine go back like why should I get the fourteen ninety nine one? You serious right now right now. That's totally me more. I am the cheapest man on earth because I do the unit costs for like paper towels and toilet paper like an. I actually make a decision based on a unit Boston per roll costs. Like it's just like well. Why WOULD I pay? You know the funny thing is when you actually the cost of similarly priced items without comparing in there. You could pay like three times more. The marketing is really interesting on certain things. I agree with you. I do I do this. I mean I don't always do it but when I sometimes I'll do. I'll be really shocked at that. Like wow like they make you feel like this is a bargain but like you said when you look at the cost like right. There's gotta be a lesson in for somehow some way Howard package in our marketing our businesses to to you know. Maybe we're doing it wrong this entire time. You know because like like literally like you could go and buy paper towels just like off. This is like three for five or these are eight ninety nine and you just automatically assume that eight ninety one is more expensive. It's not necessarily more expensive. You know it's like you got to look at what you're getting. How many ply. How many sheets you're getting like this is a big thing there. Yeah and Although buying at Costco is probably usually the way to go and it costs was actually a really good company to their employees and to the shareholders. They do job belts Costco. I now on Costco Stock. I'm a proud owner of sock. That's really what it came down to exactly no but I do believe in two OSCO. Sure so systems in your business when it comes to Trying to slowly get out of the grind are important in life. Changes Happen and the other thing too is like you know when life changes happen. You got to think about What's your intention? Oftentimes now even more so now with two kids. You're going to have to think about what's the future of Your Business. What does it look like? What does it feel like? And what are you going to do with it? I think to like just more in like the immediate What was really hard is. Our son came two weeks early so we weren't really ready for it per se quickly. We thought he might have come like a week early but two weeks was pretty interesting. And everything got change and switch and then I was at the hospital for two and a half days or whatever remember then we were like there for the rest of the week and then then it's like I come back and I got all the old stuff I have to work on because like you said there's no one else is doing it right and then all this new stuff that's there and not to mention you've been like chilling holding a baby sleeping eating food. It's like you want to get back on the grind and get to work and stuff like that so like I think. That's another important piece to which I just Kinda like. Just tell myself like dude like man up like just go. Crushes tiny back to work and and kill it and I think like things happen in life man. Sometimes you change come. I think talked before but that book who moved my cheese really good when it comes to like change in how to deal with it in life. I never heard that. Now it's short read. It's really good but We maybe we'll talk about a one day on the show but other media. Yeah it's it's a good actually. It's a really good book for your employees to so what about holding here. Two pieces of crap. Yeah two phones man so I just made this decision that I'm going to do to phones. You talk about two iphones. You talk about like life and responsibility and work and stuff like that. I decided to go to phones. Man now like an matched because two phones but was now going to be my work. Phone old fought and one is going to be like my regular personal phone. It has been watching power something. No it has made a huge difference. In how much drugs selling yes my mindset. You know in terms of like work because I can actually the physical act of turning off the phone and putting it away for and or evening is great. That's why can't get hold of you. It was awesome and I did it and then I'll hell broke loose the days like I give back to the phone and then people will like I've I forgot to say my personal number. I keep it private so I sent that personal number two like the person because we invited the family over and then like my employees who is trying to get more into the facilities like the lock is broken and other stuff By never turn on the phone but now I realize in general. I'm like you know what nobody died. Nobody didn't become a member because Because of that and it didn't affect my business you know that means like it's literally okay. If stuff happens long without you there because if the honest emergency people will actually call the police. They'll call nine one one right but that has nothing like if they can't get a hold of you they'll either figure it out if you empower them to like leaders eat last says if you empower your employees to do so Or like you know the call. Nine one one. It's funny you say that because we just had this conversation Wouldn't it be Monday and I was talking with The growth of the office and they're asking a few questions on my solicit like in the same you know Fem- with VC. Not being here you kind of have to make executive decisions you gotTa Start Looking at some of these things like what would I do if Jonathan isn't around Kansas questions because at some point that's what's going to happen that's where things are going? I'm not going to be here and it's cool because like the rest of the week kind of set the tone so like Like I sent out an email to To a customer and there was some pricing. That didn't look so they just said the back of the. Hey we normally charge this but you only charge that you'll have just WanNa make sure I catch that before where they normally probably would've caught it but because they have this theme of like Meizhou guys to really start. Taking ownership. Blake does anything. I'm trying to change the company. It's like You Know Again. We might talk with us on another show when hopefully when I can implemented but you know switching the guys to flat rate price in her job and stuff. The whole point of this whole thing is like any people just take ownership and running with it. An empowering them to make decisions as if they're business owners themselves that is huge in mainly as huge because Business owners employees need to feel empowered. That they can make decisions and they will if you allow. I think they like that. Of course they do. Who Doesn't want to be in control of their work and how they actually execute the work they go home. Tell their wife or spouse like I'm the one that made that call and you know right exactly and and then you give them confidence moving forward and no. It's true like I really think fat employees want to now. Not only do you give them self esteem. You make them feel valued because you're actually know that they're the input of their voice actually matters you know. And that's and that's what they WANNA know. People want to know that they can make a difference in the company to an addition like they may not have big grand plans of want to make a difference in the world but like the place that they work. They want to make a difference in if you can allow that to happen. You know good on you. Just show a man but this phone thing is going to be going to interesting and I'm really committed to it which is why I got a whole nother expensive one because he did. I think it's I think it's important to Unplug you know on a regular basis and I think in effect of getting the second phone has been the clarity of thought that I have because what happens. Is You know as entrepreneurs you get these brief moments of time when no one's contacting you in so you don't think about work necessarily in those moments And then you get an email and then it sets off a chain reaction your head about a bunch of things you need to do you think about that for the rest of the night or something or like for like an hour or two but like when I have the phone off like that moment never comes played her back on and I noticed that my mind is wandering to. What's happening on the phone? And I you know I personally couldn't control the thought like of like looking at my phone. People like Oh why don't you just ask your email okay? Why do you look at your text? Every time someone texture. Yeah because if you if you could if you could control not looking at your looking at looking at your your tax email than you would sell. Keller you may be a serial killer but you know what I'm saying. I know like failure like could you go like a week or like a weekend without looking at business emails that come to your phone now. I am addicted to it out literally like look at it. I might be on facebook. Something get out of it back my email just to see like refreshed news time refreshing it like even when you're refreshing you like like. I don't think anything of it. I'm not like the funny thing is that. Have you ever gone like an hour or two without getting any emails just because like anything? You dislike. No-one email weird. I've got two hours anyway contacting me. You know like this can't be right. It has to be broken with the server that was this morning. Yeah I woke up. He was like no emails shoe. Something's wrong bubbles up. You know it's funny. I don't know why as entrepreneurs we always put ourselves in that position where we can't control something or something happening exactly how it's supposed to do something is wrong but maybe the thing is like you just creating a machine for yourself and your company and you're doing things right in there getting taken care of and you'll be becoming more efficient with your what you're doing. Which is why you don't have those problems. I like that. Yeah I like that because you know. That's our goal ultimately. But how do we know? How do we know that there that we've created enough systems? Officious to work. You're going to get less college going to get less emails going to get less than all the other stuff. It's going to feel a lot relaxing to own a business and then you're gonNA be like okay. The seems like too quiet. We're still on the grind. You always and I feel like you're missing something like something's happening. Yeah but I mean he's make sure you have those KPI's and you're monitoring. I mean that's really what you should be the time for that like. I WANNA do anyways. My master plan is to be able to like go to my office right into my office on my like electric bike or something for my house and go or maybe drive. They're gonNA have like my dog with me much. Cast off me like every day and all I do is look. Kpi's all day and make phone calls on how to grow the business and this will be my dream to destroy calling you. This is my fault. That's your burner F-. I'm not used to that exactly all right. Ghost alright ready to wrap this up. Yeah let's get out of here so anyways so yeah so when things happen business you really did not get that job by the way you adjust you adapt game no power. Watch that show. Apparently anyways you adjust you adapt you move on and You create systems. That will last outlast us with that. You can make sure that they are You know that Your Business Structure. Right and runs like a dream. You gotta get Outta here. So where can people find us on? Facebook FACEBOOK DOT COM SLASH. The Common Sense podcast instagram at the commonsense podcast twitter at since podcast it's very aggressive email info at the common sense. Podcast DOT COM. I had something to say I'm creating I'm creating courses. You are here online courses. It's called small business success modeled after our our facebook group which I just made public by the way I saw. I moved it from both private public because I want more engagement in there And I'm going to create these online courses where people can go through the intake in the first course is about building simple business systems. We'll talk about it next week or something. Yeah quarter yeah. We'll do that but until then you can join us at Boston. Small Business Expo on Tuesday April seventh at George Sherman Union Building at Boston University. Don't forget it is free to attend free ninety nine. You can network with thousands of business owners and entrepreneurs over twenty business workshops speed networking exhibitors keynotes from leading industry experts at the Boston. Small Business. Expo I'm looking forward to those workshops. Hopefully we can look at what's supposed to be. I'm trying to figure that out like I'm GonNa break at some point. So maybe we're going to have to start planning our actual booth. Nobody's at the booth. Yes we have even spent we spent. We have shirts for the for the experts. Literally fifteen shirts exactly nothing else. All right so join us. They are register online at the small business. Expo Dot COM VATS T. H. E. small business expl- dot Com. Ask My son breaking something in the other room. We're Outta here until next time usually comes in your business and your business will grow but for that for now. It's time for. Maybe wash right like your your cross-eyed you come in and look like you just look like my dad jacket on high water pants. 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French Racing Preview with Laurent Barbarin

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Thanks very much for your your insights on the side. The good news is on that we do get French racing back. This is exciting. Obviously for sky sports racing. It's very exciting for us as well as fans that we get to see horses that were familiar with an racecourses that we're familiar with it. Things happened much quicker in France than in Arlington United Kingdom. Where there's a bit of frustration? What is the current outlook? We're back on Monday. We're back on Monday. Yes and we back on Monday with a great calva theme Franz Gallois to compressed program a little bit abuse and the to go straight to the point in order to maintain the classic program. So we're going to be we're going to be. I think some real good racing next week on Monday special Monday and Thursday next Thursday. We some of the best creole. It's not all of the most promising career from last year and also some other Halsey so it's very good in some wet. Let's be restricting of but where we're going to get. We look pretty mixed some kind of buttons what we missed and French racing is classed under agriculture. In yes there has the same here as well. That was actually pointed out to me by just a couple of weeks ago as we were talking about possible comebacks that has obviously it because it's not classified as a sport not has sped things up but it's been frustrating time and it's been a hurtful time for the industry in the UK and Ireland. And I presumed the same can be said for France. It's been absolutely terrible. Time for the industry. You're in France as well mainly for obviously like everywhere for the smart tables and medium size stable with you know. Medium ranch owners Big stable I haven't really been affected. I was reading an article. Chocolate woozy. Basically accept that there was no racing. He hasn't been really affected but some of the more stable where the trainers old some of the whole season part of the whole season. I've been struggling really and they're still at the moment of the discussion about the price Manila. It's going to be. Is He. Going to be kept on not in full is as it was the plan. They've already planned to cut the money. Of the BLACKTOP Tracy's eastern a obviously group racine by thirty percent and falls go wanted to the rest of the ratios by keep a moment discussion because if they do that with the on. Belva races and cutting prizemoney. Many people are not going to survive so This many discussion going on at the moment and hopefully the prize money. We look good down that much and the model is different than fronts. Because it's the party meet you all so yes. There is more of a funding from the bedding industry. That in a way will. We'll help things you would like to think. But we've already seen KIP. Go have pulled out a sponsorship. Due to the fact that she had spending mostly some in America his wife is Californian so there he's GonNa spend most of his time. There and Arlington Fronts are suffering at at that because co-sponsorship will be gone They will continue in the United Kingdom. Which is fantastic for their fantastic for the UK but pretty devastating for Arlington and the UK champions weekend for example was very heavily dependent on that money. Is there other sponsorship issues? As well in terms of resuming the sponsorship had any shoes except except issue but but the trouble in France. Is You know. The founding of racing comes from the being shops around the country. Most of them are going to remain closed at the moment Because you can back in in shops in France in You know where the tobacco newspaper nor the shops many of the places where people can bet on racing agreeing to remain closed until at least the end of. May beginning of so. This is a big issue opinion. Working on it with the governments and different organization tried to have as many shops re-open so that's the problem of funding of funding at the moment The racing in France. You see kind of a double blade. I should say a problem because nobody teaching no funding for racing and steal us. Pay The trainers and your news for the ratio are going to take place. So there's a Hue. And all the race courses that are being given the green light the go ahead so the French police intervened and Said Party. Longchamp is okay. Are there other more? High Profile racecourses though that won't be allowed no. I do not think so all the big cities in France. We're racing. He's supposed to resume and thinking of Marseille to lose Baldo this you're going to be only known. As waiting western France debut been under green light and the same as being done for Strasbourg. Which is let's let's teach. Trust is a very important truck in France and trust brew is into probably the most affected area by various controls or was anyway but still has been given the green light so on on you know regarding race go sees a dope race groceries. It's going to be no problem. But all the provincial track going to remain curls at the moment and he's GonNa take base on the main trucks in the area and looking ahead to some of the races that we're going to get to see on sky on Monday Very obviously French centric. I is there a is there going to be a situation where Irish and UK runners can take part in France or. Are we a situation where everyone's just going to focus on their own racing for now? Is that the attitude from friends. That's that's the thing at the moment. Officially at the moment no foreign horse we'd be allowed to race in France and coach first of May and this is only a temporary. These kind of look down may be extended fought to reason the sanitary reasons I Which is not only to do with raising cheese. But they're so in terms of the a distributed to the races because because the first bout to try to keep alive some of the French Industry some some of the French trainers insurance. You keep them in a in a kind of from a financial point of view To keep emulate financially. That's what I'm trying to say so You see it's to reason for that so I don't know how long it's going to be close to foreign horses but it might be for a white and jess when you look at the races that we have coming up in the eleventh day on Sky Sports Racing predefined blue in particular as a race today DNA bring has not been shy of having runners in. Obviously he won't be able to now for him. Things are slightly different because he has the mice of coolmore tobacco but there are other. Uk and Irish trainers would have gone over as well. It's pretty frustrating time for them. One hundred percent and looking at the news today. We're just getting updates. That still is in the end of June phase. Reserve resuming racing. And if it is the twenty ninth of June Lawn. If we don't have any extension of this ban on foreign host is it could be the case. Irish will says could travel to France and run in. Perhaps you'll you'll classic graces. Oh you'll group races before they can even run an island definitely. There's an incentive there said competition and it will be a respite for the Irish. Irish says is as well but definitely these these big races that we have coming up next week. A fantastic you've the Persian king. Last one the predate predefined umbrella Sierra and calls lady the pre Grat in their races are being supported by Ken. Irish train is but also it's important. I was thinking about French racing. That a lot of smaller trainers in UK and Ireland UK specially support and like to take courses over to France because the way the program is laid out the conditions of races and the options of a wider. And the prize. Money is so good and it is a big incentive for you. Train is stunned. More does a lot. A Harry Dunlop. Does it wants to bring horses over to get that black type but also as I said the conditions of racism fraud so that that there's more opportunities so we could see who'll supporting the French racing system and maybe that will open up a perception of racing in France more and hopefully that will that thing bring the school into people's mindset that it is very interesting to hear and hopefully the PM you has new ideas and new ways to keep people engaged in without the normal cafes and that's the that's the culture isn't it there on the company is how people what racing in France but now we need to find new ways further. French to engage with racing. Now I know the pay is working hard on. But it's been very if we saw in the last few weeks we've had gracing every day in front a foreign race trucking and gallopers from Ohio. We could run Asia. Obviously ghetto person. An northern Europe for trotter is but we saw a very very small pox of the regular turnover of being backed online. So there is The Frenchman they sit very much into the betting shops. Really so we see goes. We'll see how it goes when French wishing resumes. We just saw Hanover Today. And just was making the point to me that there was an awful lot of people around which seems like it's going to be very very unlikely in fact. I can pretty much guarantee right now that that's not going to be the state of play in Ireland and the United Kingdom and indeed on assuming fronts as well no scores on the truck Chris Cut. He's a wonderful contributor to the final furlong he put up a link to Hanover to watch the live stream today. And I've been following it just out of curiosity how they're doing. It and I can see jockeys with sort of protective screens over there over the on top of their goal so over the coming down off that the helmets but there are a lot of people dotted in and around the track and as the coming finishing races and coming back into the on. Saadane 'cause you can see groups of people quite huddled which surprise me. Just knowing how strict we know must be but maybe Germany as lightly can be slightly more restricted. I don't need to be restricted. It's interesting to see how each jurisdiction will will behave because oversee. That will be a lot of people watching observing and criticizing as well as being thankful for racing being on. They'll say oh well why people that are so angry. Schools has to be very careful and and and the governing bodies that up responsible need to be to do you have any insight into why things were so different their laurel new idea and I think everyone is trying to to to Saudi their French News on the virus but obviously has managed situation much better than other countries because this sheet of An industry to produce a lot of tests and Able to produce a lot of of machinery respiratory machines fall. You know any people infected the lot of space in the hospitals so different master. The situation far better than most neighbors countries. The things what you're saying about I did not the pictures from an over but There was no look down comparable to what we're living in England or in France in island in Germany people were looking to St Full. The last few weeks he in towns and there was no real restrictions. So I'm not surprised to see a many people for hanging or on the races and when I compare to France what he's going to show what he's going to open a COMPU- not to lose. It's just different world because w seats going to be very strict in France Don't you check at the entrance of the race rules They're going to give away mask dot green to spray to Joe Keesing or possible rooms so they can change and being too close to each other's I mean there's so many Things putting price on the different race courses in trance. Nothing Germany obviously yeah clearly for federal aid to Germany from able to keep things going. It is frustrating to see the latest stance. As just saying is we're for Ireland. We're not going to be back until the twenty ninth of June at the earliest whether that's going to be a case of actually back or they're just re looking at the situation. I think he's adding even more confusion to and Bet Fair embassador. Gordon Elliott was making the point. That if you're gonNA bring back flat racing and just focus on not for the month. Then you might as you may very well. Killing national erasing. Because that's going to have to come back to so it seems as though kind of asleep at the wheel. You're just yeah. It's a point and actually I was looking at what? You've got a laurent coming up next week because you've got jumped. Bracing flat racing is that right. Es None of the seasons at being called the jump season hasn't been compromised in favor of than other particularly seeing is horse racing in Ireland falls under a cultural as well so same. Rules should apply. Twenty nine th of June twenty-ninth June. How the very confusing thing about all this on leave. Rod Care gave his speech Friday week. I think it was just. This is world. The confusion began because he said behind closed doors. Sport would resume on May Eighteenth and then the documents to support that speech came out and said twenty ninth of June so it went from quiet celebrations. Because you know we have to be classy in dangerous to absolute pandemonium and you. We're seeing absolute chaos in in the UK and A rebellion against Nick Ross and now the UK are to return an Ireland isn't head spin. Well we all. We're waiting to hear. I think. Boris is announcement since Sunday able will have a massive knock-on and what the will be able to do I. I do think what happened frauds. Just the context of France. You know the the decision was made that a sport wouldn't return until September is at right Laura but lead August but then French racing because it fell under the agricultural in minister was able to sort of neely. There's a bit of a loophole in that. They were able to just sort of to to proceed. I think from an Irish perspective you think. Oh well we we kind of in the same way so perhaps if we do have as a sport that went to fact racing but it looks like the hasn't happened with what we're hearing in Ireland which is a shame and then if anything in UK being falling under the sports ministry. We'd assume we'd be like everyone else but it looks like a lot of good work is being done by the beach. A behind closed doors and the resumption erasing plan to be able to to come up with a problem which means that we race and be the first bought to get back before any other school in the UK but we all at the mercy of the government and they are the ones that will make decision on behalf of US also. Sunday will be quite big day for us. Huge a huge. We will watch it with with our eyes wide open and her ears. Obviously open as well. Desperately hoping that everything can resume. It's not going to be normal but at least if we can get the sport back on Monday. We will have racing from France and it was include the French two thousand guineas trial predefined and Blue Live on sky sports racing and to be fair. You might not have any rivals from the UK land but it's a damn good lineup long and particularly lead by two horses that you've been talking about on at the races on sky. Sports Racing Victory Durham and Helter skelter and this one last year by Persian King representing Godolphin. They lead the way in this race in terms of historic wins with six so far The New Yorkers family. You've got five because we have to get the orchestra in there so it took eighteen minutes and twenty four seconds to get the victims. Dorm will be on a lot of people's radars this year. Which is which is fair. Because because he was something really special in made you last year said everything I could. I just like the way all the that the newspaper said he's a very smart. Halsey very relaxed. He's got everything of the good sees and you have to stop talking and seen that sort of thing. You doesn't speak much. He doesn't speak at Torchwood. French media doesn't even speak much to the English. Miguel Irish media between what we've seen what the trainer seems to think of him. It's an for me to read something special. No ways. He's going to go. We're going to find out all on Monday. The comeback race then should lead him to the fringe genius and then to the Jokic Club. Which is the To make target FOB in the first part of the season but then after that SIF sometime he happens to win destroy. She's but we'd be the next step. I'm already Looking at it to be honest Maria trying to search what could be the the rest what could be the could master. The mapping of his season so to speak. What's the current state of play on the Sports Book Jess for sex? So he's right very strong. The top of the market helter skelter. His four to one is fifteen to devil. Twelve to one piece mellowed. Twelve to on the summit fourteen one can weigh sixteen to one memory. Twenty one so assume thoughts. All the confirm his invite is is. Is that right? Laura yes I must you know. I don't disagree. Authorities seem very fair fall to such a whole series of group. When we know he's an attorney was very impressive. I I'm not so impressive in the second run and then you could see a much more mature horse. I should say once he he he kind of slow down a little bit. He told the job Western but I knew he hasn't been pushed to our last year. That's for sure because he's only and we never really something serious. Let's see food fault one full. I was cut showing the there is a small host. He's not the because we would be very thick fitness going to be a big factor as went on Monday because we want to try to win and I very much like a cleaver. I think you said fifteen two to four. I think he's he's value. Each way might be a good very good horse. Durham oversee. He's the one of the three. Shama del two year old. That's coming into this as a three year old career. Who's really as pave the way for the final? What we've now now. Sadly is Shawna dolls. The he's now passed and these special whole system self and flights Pinatubo but looking at it and I was thinking those these three and what they would achieve this in between him and US right. Do you think he's more? They moved predate. Jackie club type. Definitely Definitely a was in but he comes. was my was steps atop study and in France. Eight very interesting pedigree because you've got plenty of stamina on this side on the shell dot as yet as I mentioned a preview on that the races yet to prove himself with his progeny You know all over the classic distance. Burt on Victoria rooms dump. I like the country the branch. And that's what makes me think that sometime. We not there yet. It's still two months to go almost but he plans to win the Club nicely. I could really seem as not contender. Rebuild compared him to to be after the PE- So I think he's got what it takes on the dump site to probably stem minor. How WE WE THERE? But we'll see how we texted the Tory be. It's interesting just the we're on. This side are so excited about Pinatubo what he could achieve. And yet they're in France there could be a potentially even better horse than them. Because if if one of the greatest trainers to ever Saadallah resource in the World Compares that Horse to Mill Reef. Then you can't help but not get excited and trying to contain himself became quite get excited about that cab sedately I think. Maybe because he's come over to the UK and he's beaten are and we think we rates in maybe second behind. Pinatubo the Durham. I probably should. We shouldn't do and there's a bias around horses have come into taken on our own but just looking at what the dorms done. He's he's an using armory. As the yardstick he finished nine lengths behind. Pinatubo do and one leg behind the door. So that's the only thing that we've kind of got so that a spin a to be stocks slightly higher. We knew the UH flight was going to come over to odd thousand as that was going to be that plan. And he's obviously he's obviously had a setback and I didn't know how that will affect the rest of his season but it sounds from the confidence game from Laurent visit to the dorm is the one that we really got to keep an eye on and and if Pinatubo would be a preloader to triumphal this year. I think that would be fantastic. But it's even been questioned but the about Vitiligo Room. Getting that would be is is is very exciting. Yes we saw. We saw a an extraordinary last year. Pinatubo speed some social some now winning over seven showdown but How can I put it? Easy was so good as a two year. Old Moore Wisconsin that this season going to turn into into as good as you know. We expect them to be what I know what I know with all that I follow is when he's got the type of Victoria Room wasn't being pushed what he has done. What has a team last year? It was pure class. A fab not toiletry. Old punitive wasn't being rushed but you can see the same type of course. He's he's a very different horse but I think Victoria is mentally mentally. Looks something a little bit special? Maybe all this going to come to an Monday. Forget peak fit. Whatever but at the moment what we've seen from attitude the way erases. Preserves said he runs like a a very smart house some some the best seen before they know how to save them said something. Very rural like I- razzie outstanding. Really well of these kids that know everything before the others a is he going to be able to train on. That's the question I don't know I don't know we'd be because maybe because I'm because I know I'm probably it'd be more competent with Victoria and so seven to four for the police say is a pretty good price dorm. Seventy four yes you. Can we check pronunciation? Well by the way was that correct pronunciation of the French to pull a complete disaster. But that's okay I mean that's what makes me The lakes waiting for me to them. Thirty thousand uses okay. You can do I I understand. I understand what you mean when you say so so. That's okay maybe I understand. You've been better for two thousand guineas but that's okay tell you. I'm so glad that I didn't do that and I I want to be. No no no that is a complete disaster is not for me. I don't know how I'm going to steer the rest of this put c Shall we take a look so the phillies instead? So for the weekend For Monday I should say this pointed it. Basically the weekend because who knows what day of the week it is anymore. I don't even know what time it is. So one thousand guineas trial just create villa grotto. It's okay improvement from French president. Same time is five to four another name that I'd love to know how to put out an watch. So many replays dot. Riyan seven to full dream in do because Kasi Ron. Please say. Say by on my behalf. It's not French but it seems that you need to okay you because I think he could be quite nice holes. I if we if I'M GONNA send multiple times in right Kesar on six one quiet times fourteen to one. Elyse delay. Sixteen to one kraken. Sixteen to one and tickle me green twenty two one and thirty three to one pass DOT TROPPO I. I did a real good in depth. Look at this race because I love the PHILLY's I'm fascinated by phillies. Xetra how they train on and how they do this time of year. And those one Plenty of Newcastle Trough. That went through a con. A breeze up sales may by showcasing. She's actually English bread and BIALYSTOK. Del whose humorous brother and. I think it was a bit of an accident that she ended up going to the breeze upsells. She was meant to go through. I think she that was an issue at the topsil sales but she was bought by Willie Brown. She went the ALCON breeze up sales and she was bought for lady. Bamford is overseen English owner but has seen the reason and the successes of having horses in France. And there's so many English owners who who see that. I can understand why the French premiums being white but wants to before we discuss this to point out Michael Soles breeze up breeze up from Qaeda and we know with Elkana they are joining forces with golf's to do the breeze ups later on in the air so that they can try and make sure that the breeze ups continue on. Because it's a very important part of a Industry the Lucasville also had with being one. Brentford hope vitale. A honey cake Brentford hope and summary. Months one two three four five horses or came from that same draft and a now classic contenders in the. Us Brendan Walsh. We Know Brent. That hopes Big chances the Dhabi Richie twos and it was just sensational. When I look through way she'd come from so that's a big. It's a big A big note for for what the connor breeze up cells can do. Entrepot seems to be an APPs sensation from what she's come from from day sales so I'm excited for her. I think she looks lovely and her run at newmarket where she never looked comfortable. Oh God the truck. I don't know what if it was the track. Who which have fish fishy really showed up potential? Didn't she and her ability. Despite what such a Messy Ron? You know they probably wouldn't wanNA run at Newmarket again that this will be the proper place and unexcited Phil what what. What are your thoughts on on trump tobacco? You think when they stopped. Uk speed at the end of the season. To y'all it means that you think's very good and trouble is obviously in. Cranston immersed thinks she's a very good feeling. I looked again at the race yesterday couple of times and or she was so. I'm not going to say she would have won I've got my view on it. And she thinks she's a I think she's a special fee as well. Now how could you sheet Detroit with this Philly. She was not very big as a two year. Old and my concern. I picture on the newspaper the other day when she was doing pizza. Where can match on on the track? She didn't seem Twelve grodin she states him to be a a small fee. Now she's got a serious engine But there is that step to take to the tree or season now. She's under the but I thought she didn't have a chance a very good chance. She wouldn't be running. So let's our winter I had more focus on more focused on carrying case to be Jess. And why did Kesar? And then's so much just to actually first of all. Do you think the trouble there messed it up as well using the the real reason that was because of her owner is it possible to On the REPUB heads arm twisted. I know to is say well. He he would advise Ease knowing these famous for being kicked. Vcr Some very very big owners undergoing a name them. There's no need for it. But he skipped the biggest owners out whenever He's he's so can be jumps demand. Thanks good but I think too cruel because I think owner. We probably wanted to win the or try to win the market. So the point was to kroger and see Give you market and Co. She could under the truck and she didn't under the truck in magnificent twenty which is very capable into hoes. Probably not the most entire inspired Michaela's now on that day is a very good jokey but you can have a day where you not so bright and if it happens on day in maybe you should have won the race but We could run it again ten times. I think he would have won eight to ten. That's another story but I think probably let me bump have been pleased to see trouble running and maybe winning the one thousand show. I don't know if you're there is because he had in mind that she could win the race abusively and it was not only to please. The the owner is takeout. Lie He thinks the typeface US I and at one thousand guineas so they kind of sense you get basically depending on the on the enemy of the HALSE. How looks how he can under the trucks on win over? The Straits crosses in France Scientists never run around the Ben so far so it's just a matter of adding Righto Sadat King to the right trucks with no signs very specific very special. And when you look at previews and you go through. Former's justice was alluding to Iran. In trouble would be head and shoulders above the rivals. It's certainly looks as though you're very much citing with Kaz Aaron Kingman I count very much signing we case our on beakers because we're going to be trouble in. Detroit is a very good filly. There is an interesting one that comes from mass as a dream do because she did nothing but prove last year but then again what? She met last year book. was not top cast material. And she's going to have to take that step up in terms of quality keyboard. She can just do it She's trying by a very good trainer in Marseilles for the coffee and She'd be very interesting. She could be the value in the race I can't remember the pressure gave but I think it was a beach with price dream and do but obviously the sixty six to one the much between Zahran troubles the one. We have to expect. It was a whole that I was looking through last night. But she's now no longer in the race she. She was one that I add. Add One full the lockdown. I think it was but it looks like she's not running but one maybe perhaps to keep an eye on as well probably probably but it's from what we've seen so far. I would say this way. What we've seen is Credible in my view should be could have been a group winner last year. So that brings you to a certain level Kesar. She done something. Quite outstanding to victories last year and just based on this on form note or the phillies this stage anywhere. And we're GONNA have some surprises abuse. Leads it's the start of the season now but if you look just on from very difficult to see any other family being able to come and challenge at this stage and the state Now some some are going to be a radio. Know those I can show you that case. Zarin is going to be very feet. That's one thing that's the person that's what it would go for her home on Monday. Right on you cannot be too much work into what she's not a big city but Kesar she descriptively. She's lovely and she very feet excellence. Okay so we're going to go with CA Zarin who is seven two four butcher. That pronunciation again which then brings us to the older horses Jess and the return of the French Darby Pre Neil and arc. Third Sodas presume is pretty short yes. He's eight to thirteen. Chemin is five to one. Julius Nine Months Mon nine to one twelve to wants to Dania. Fourteen one sit. Scientists Certes is fourteen to one way to this way to Paris. Twenty two hundred and Villarosa thirty-three Twas. So I mean it looks like Saas race to win. I'd imagine if he's ready and on Song for his first run back of the season and these the PREDISPO- key club win in the ARC. He looks like he's got the world at his feet is could be the year where he he just comes comes of age I felt last year. He was improving improving all the time. And the probably was a big lesson for him So competitive and the PD. Jackie being a reduced field. But you know he's excited to see him I look for too. I've loved so you need to is. He'll be he'll be how he's improved this year Very excited I am going to question. And I was wanting to know where we'll next. He pushed king that that might be a question. They often was clearly not this race when you go back through this forum. It was surprise the day that he'd be Persian King in the French Darby but his runs afterwards. The premium was probably his to win but he still had to go and do it and there was a huge run in the arc. We probably didn't give enough credit at the time for that performance. He's a really exciting older horse for the season very exciting. Obviously you look at. India is being guys enable at Wedding Front of Japan and magic or magical which she she won the Irish something steak after the actual being age English champion stakes tells I think the level of the Hawk of Guitry old Was probably a very high last year. was beaten by guys ten. You could discuss many guys but I think it was a very good auditorium and so it's us the way be patient confession king into staying in the way. That turn of foot was devastating. Chocolate will just seems very with the ways as much between last year and this season and obviously we have to expect to be grin. But but the question. Mckie's Iran never retrace last year group treat success and it was a new group tree running in a pro depre- levels We took into force that we'd be run next Tuesday and we know that was chemin. And that's where that's where you know when things can happen and we summon I'm citing success no doubt about it but Chaman is a good horse. He's not a good Halsey. We'd be very interesting to see over central because in the in the new worlds that were in. It could be very easy to become like. We still don't really know just what's going to happen in Arlington the UK as to whether or not our horses will be able to compete against each other on the track. We're almost taking that for granted and Francis starting up and not allowing that for example so when you look at race like a hardcore butchered And UC SOTA acids such a short price. You automatically just think Oh. This is his race to win. But that's not always the case. And the point that Laura makes last season is a is a good one. You can get trapped into looking at horses. He's going to. He's going to bulge well. What didn't happen on the back of the season? And we kind of and that was a lesser way laceration this. You didn't have the lights. Chemin who's a definitely a a CALC- horse and looking at his form. He's clearly a miler as well and that starts his trip so it it doesn't that they ought said imagine. Lawrenceville is not should is is reflective of a looking at this just through the angle of of the OCTA as opposed to how probably we probably should you and that he he did need the Rossier would his stomach the season And maybe he's a bit of a whole set. Needs TO HOBBS. Who needs to be wound up a bit like that? I'm not familiar with the others behind him. I think Tim on overseas. Come over he he ran ask it behind sex. Maximus at Royal Ascot. So we've seen over here when I had a it kind of made me think also learn about the Ark and this sort of withdrawal guys now going into into Stud career and the older horses that the French now have and looking at the results were how many how many French run is in a very international field with a three or four and who is going to take on the button. The VOLCIC's being such a brilliant flag-bearer such French choices and internationally and in different different races. And could it be Sosa's profile? It would be fantastic. I I really really liked to hope. And for that reason I'm getting onto that bandwagon as such because I love to see a big French. Who Serious dog lead? Gold is the ones that we can get behind. Yes he's he's got. He's got this profile to remember guys into eighteen India. He was just false. And then you had a good campaign in two thousand nine hundred when you wanted to pre gun last year. Old Guy Sat twenty two one four. The accusers speak on the day of the beginning I was stunned by the way we'll pick any but anyway that was the target for thirsty. Seon think dunkeld which they would probably like to kind of Carbon copied a campaign Achieved by Vargas last last year. Sean Coluche wants. You doesn't say the truth when he says the does and make him upset but this bigger basis unwilling France and trainer has to win it. I think success success. These promise big chance to win to win. The if he's progress from last year it would seem and probably us because mentally was very still very debut of attitude. Last year was very very matured. And we'll see on Monday how he behaves but if yes progressed little bit from Russia that that we make a serious contender for October. Is there anything else on Monday? That's really standing out to you. In the supporting races Laurel we are listed raced. Ip Maurice see bail or so at the show and Just for fun. Just she probably be shocked price but spinning memories in the race. She won't eat last year and again this year. She's facing probably an easy task. What on paper anyway than last year. But she She lives are interesting. Obviously Spinning memories in the Moise Eastern race over seven hundred long excellent and we have a big meeting at two companions went for Jumpers but another story actually just before we move onto Thursday. Is there anything about the jumps campaign horses that are particularly standing out to you right now as much? I should say that on the flat to be honest because because the the the trump campaign has been really mysterious one. That is very interesting. The target would be the cost of the. The French Golkar fell last year in the race is named Crystal Beach. He's coming back into action over her at companion Monday listed her door. He won't be fully fit for sure that he's a is a he's a class act and I just want to see him run well and he's probably with a little go for the French very strenuous long. He's name the name of the Halsey Crystal Beach. I wasn't even Nastier Crystal Beach Interesting and having done a review of the national on season earlier on kind of feel obliged to talk about. What's for a second? Is the plan to go ahead of that meeting. And is there any indication as to whether or not there will be a restriction? Lifted on foreign raiders. Because obviously Willie mullins and Paul. Nicholls will want to be going at those meetings with both barrels which will have just very excited. When the the thing is some of the Gracie's French dump your coming on the seventh of June. The some of the some of the big races are coming like your source of June. So I guess if the look east of French authorities allow for a whole season after the thirty first made and there's nothing stopping we millions from coming over abuse but then again we. We have to wait and see what happens. But I think it's the look down for Foreign Halsey. Should be lifted listed of behalf to substate. Hopefully I hope so. We could see Benny zero coming back for French. Champion huddle she. If she's able to she's the you can have the international runners EC one all training. I mean I don't know if they've got to be honest they probably go with training But that kind of the mullins come wanting to keep horses going and if they were able to see that night they got galway. They hope into go behind closed doors. But that's kind of up for up for question now but It's it's interesting that the the jump season doesn't end over in France and whether it might change peoples perspectives in Nada. Nikkei if they go jumped to place a bet with you now about five of you can have five. Euro or five of the Queen's finest sovereigns that benedict is still in training with an eye to France content. Because as I was talking about it I thought this makes no sense because they probably probably failed. The Irish jump seasons ended. But then you kind of think well the kind of camp close up shop are. They loves all toy. He loves the Mind Busia. Here's what he'll do. He'll book puppy power to sorry. Poppy the Thursday meeting so this some Nice listed races on the Thursday Lauren. What is particularly interesting? You so with such a good meeting at Longchamp in quick succession this Thursday again. We all live sky sports racing. Yes in fact. We have on Monday to preparations followed fringe his and on Thursday. We're going for the preparations to first preparation for the French. French looks. So that's that's a different soil instead of running the tree or course of reminded gonNA renovate nine show along this time and we've got some very interesting sees the phillies. We'd be running into prefrontal which is also nine show along The people tool was warned by platinum. Last year was a good few ISO Terry kwami diffuse. I. It's it's a good race and Obviously the pre law Fossey's or good race that was won by the finishing was by some unless. You're wendy the running into fringe but normally it's a step It's a it's a race to prep fall either. Pre field the PIO which sleep then to the French Derby and just I should go to you and look for prices for the French Derby and the French oaks predated. Dan Yes I know I am sorry so severe I to be honest and that we have we will do especially after and it's worth pointing out at the moment. We're quoting on Thursday. You can get the Predrag Peter. Fontham Blur Peter. Hukou the the the French skinny on one thousand guineas online. But they will not yet up and beyond that I think probably I don't know when the final if they are a final declaration stage for Monday but we will have every race from all three tracks on the sports burke. And I'd imagine once we have a better understanding the the trials next week and we'll have the predigested up as well You can't you can't have a lot to Trenton. Want but the other mark aunt up momentarily. Well let's take a look so we start with the Vento Laurel tonight. Let's see what very it's tricky race because we haven't got much to to go for two weeks at the FINA Philly Bayani Kumon trying to Gadhafi colors than these on. Fall me some very interesting. We've had an impressive dettori from emoji. Cheap Jim and Phoenix trained by your phone sees in March before the lockdown started. There's a horse. Just very grounds went from seven to ten wrong and world quite impressive. You have to say it wasn't very ground. So was that because the ground was. I don't know we. We need to see your in good ground so she looks very interesting. There's a gym port. Call Atiku Army Green Training Fab to prove but other than that. We lax rates at the moment to be debts to be honest selective coats race so nothing in particular then really sending it to you. They're making you. It's very very odd to assess. We really need to see this race and some duration to lose on Monday to try to have an okay. Well some big owners than Including George Strawbridge in the coolmore team under five in the pre laforce. Yes this one is a serious race now. Each each fascinating. We've got the group. One we know the group crew attention last year very Interest you beat on beaten on your weather on this comeback. Renna by wartime was going to Hong Kong. We got these that comes on the back of a win at sanctuary and enlisted race. We've got lines being left in at the moment. He's been less than the La Force as well so I ended up. Where so very interesting. Paolo Alto with a winner or at least address at Baldwin last year. I know this guy is a half brother to Monzo by lab was extremely Presi when he made an on your weather since early March in Austin Atlantic just a made we knew I should say But it looks when you won't sanctuaries by American Pharoah so it's Very very exciting prospect Good morals so there's a lot of speculation as to how things work with Brian and how horses are allocated and one of them is that Aden basically gets to go down and take the and that's not necessarily always the case and given cool. Moore's investment in American Pharaoh. They're clearly going to reach success with this horse Very very good at placing them. So you were mentioning the fact that a maiden winner last year by eight lengths on heavy ground. Yes he was he was second. I I would Beaten by killer Niaz Emmett. That's all you kill. But but then he went onto win very impressively as to say he looks like a horse with stamina to me even though on on off off if you look at the breeding site and there's no guarantee he's going to stay Meinhof but he's got enough stomach on paper to stay at ten ten photos of the of the French Derby very very interesting house. You could see was big huge house. And I think extended break the extended. Winter Break Will Dunham a world of the fact that he his dam was a half sister on raced to lower Sirmo who was absolutely superb. To one hundred seventy five thousand dollars as a yearling more importantly though just one point one million euro as a two year old. This is the ARC. I know the man very well who sold it. Brendan Holland Cooke. He's Rodney Scrape Stud and this was a very very special day for that team. The celebrations Dot came about after this sensational. It was a brilliant success for them and oversee again. The breeze upsells just to point out as did earlier has posted a lot of great horses. And we you know. The proof is in the pudding. You've got Ocean Atlantique. You've got a lot of the ninety. Two year olds being one of them and others. I mentioned earlier. Bradford hope as well coming off from this sale. So it's great that the cool team that did go by decided to keep the holes in France as well and American Farro producing a very real stumbles. We've seen them. Sierra and Monica Vija. Kind of crying out to me as one really impressed in his early in the season but you could just tell you probably not quite a two year old. Needs needs a bit of time and under fabrice giving this as much time as as he's needed on. Yeah he's a pedigree to die full Being out with the giants cools by man. And you have very very excited going to go in my truck. You're I think actually a truck. I don't know if you can do you. Can you can talk several big shots out to the front scallop website. Because I think it's brilliant it can provide you. You could track can news and you get all your results in watch back on horses but it's been really really helpful to me. What may sort of learn and get information about franchises. So yellow plugs. That takes a very very very exciting a deserved plug there. But I would like to also mentioned the fact that the website is absolutely sublime you can do video playback you can read the fantastic Laurel Boban There as well Baburin. I should say if I get your name correctly torture leg just did Jesus God. This is going to be a long show and of course you can do the trucker there as well just so you know. Excuse me for the French sources. Seem as as brilliant as well as soon is when you assess this race than law. It's very easy to to look at the two year old form that we saw last year and the group winners or who ran very well in group races but when you see a horse like ocean classic and there are plenty others like him and indeed her. There's a loss of untapped potential out there and the delay you're saying won't have suited some horses. It will suit certain other horses and it may very well sue him. How do you approach this on Thursday? And how does this race? How how much of an impact is this going to have on your thought process for the French? Darby in your mindset. Have you made your major lined up about who you think is going to claim that rice? No no because it's a I think there's a lot of death ee destroyed. I think it's very competitive. We've had a lot of promises Given US I think he's fourth bracing rejoined. I hope he runs. He's got to be honest the Fulton but he's false place into Laguardia was probably due to the ground. I think he would have been crucial Victoria. Room another sky. Did something really impressive on your weather. I'm not worried at toward to seem switching to and I think. Look something really. Special Paolo Alto won't ferries in the province next year these low. I want to see him again on good ground on sees a group winner of the Catan. The sanctuary which is ten following heavy ground so you could or was kind of speculate on on the strength of the race but still eat a group where we know it's a it's a good race good race and it's going to us A good guideline full the fringe Dobie. I would said the moment we stood in the dock for the French oaks and the fringe. Dobie we still need to be in the dock but maybe not so much. I think we can see the courts some of the courts stunning out beat. Well then we can seem the phillies division and a question if they think. Victor the door is predigested course which they now consider the Pilo forces as a as a better target full. No the point is to go from Luqueno force east to go to the PUNA which is the same distance so the force would be L. Sorry predefined the Pilaf Force small to prepare your horse for dior cow key. Whatever it's the FOSSE's more to go from nine hundred wrong in the force and then the next step will be ten long in the peak food and then you go into the club the predefined blow east the Praca prep race for the French guineas. That's the route. There is a month in between the front weeks between the Fontainbleau and the in which is the perfect timing for farmers and the way does things any would think to go from there little things being well maybe to the PD Jockey Club like two thousand guineas and then they're up. Say Suppose yes exactly. I'm not even going to attempt the pronunciation but there is a racist song clue which can be used to steppingstone. It's the race the poor mall one one before taking in the Darby presumably that can be quite a significant darb trial as well as that race protected. We sorry I'm just the legal field group to clue. Yes yes The pig feel. I'm just I'm just looking at. The presidential has been protected. Yes that would be one of the steps for the French Derby as when you're used to be Back in the days. Choose to twenty from correct It was different tree now. It's a different group to not that long ago a couple of years ago still became a treat which is a bit sad but I think it's in back in the days it used to be a group one. So that's that's another preparatory for the French Derby so of the horses that we're GonNa see on Thursday in the French Derby trial who you're going to be siding with for the authorizes trucker a tricky one. This one because because. I'm very evident at the moment between another Sky Ocean Atlantic. That would be my two whole sees had in fact every of these speak ratio retrial. We ivory race. We spoke about basically I in between two horses all the time. So I've and made a choice it For this one. I think another sky trained by Fred. We'd be readier than ocean. Atlantic was a big office. But know another guy on the run and I think Ocean Atlantic to you know he's got two races to get to the Jockey club another sky by yet would be ray. He will be Ready to fire so I would probably be tempted to go for another sky. Okay obviously all I heard there was in Atlantic and will with the one point one million euro purchase for for Coolmore You can send Jessen. I very kindly list of now. You've written at these as well on the racist dot com and use some fantastic insides for the French season at the race's Dot Com as well which I highly recommend you check out Particularly given that. We're all in this very strange time. We've come to read content. It's it's fantastic and all available for free as well But of some of the worst. We've already touched on. We can talk about them a little bit later on again as we Try and crack the ARC If you like one of them is on. Your list is Greenland warfronts. Who's owned by the New York? Assembly trained by Pascal Berry and a very well beaten debut was hugely impressive launch. Yeah definitely Every year basically because they turn up with a with a classic every year where they took court or Philly and and last year the at Kitt told that beat Ocean Atlantique. First Time I would Would look very nice scored and industry as well green lung at the race. Attraction was was an impressive win. She's white bread. I think stiffened on that they wanted to test the filial. It'll be a sean ability at home. She was pointing first time. I would and I think today's he wanted to really see what's in the tanks. We give her a couple of slap to keep a straight. She was very green very nicely very easily shows or the classic and my only concern with it on the website is that she's any way yet in any other race last time abuse leave. She goes for the French orchestras at some stage. But I would like to seem lining this week but maybe week is that unusual for the New Yorker Not to be forward entering horses. Do you suggest that that's possibly assigned that? Perhaps she had a setback or is not as forward as they were thinking. I was a common that go on a friendship. I think it was on French from Alan Cooper. And you were saying that And Kit Greenland or wear doing very well and were obviously be obviously into the French cusick. Pascal Barry's got these on the way to do things but I think he's affiliated been ready to fire. Maybe feel she still probably still a little be green to go and to going to the Pierre. Volatile D. stage. Maybe wants to give an easy array so a couple of days before But you know every race is going to be very competitive now because because the program has been restrained so much so I don't know what to think. I don't know what to make we'd like to hear this week. Maybe she'd be running beaten over seven and a half furlongs on her debut winner over a mile what kind of a tribute looking for the season a mile two furlongs from a Mike to ten. We still in France. Whether it's or the French toast because adobe as being put on the same distance of the French jokes a few years ago. We saw that going. From the Maya Sean to the Mayan Equality. The extended my inequality. Sean T hasn't been a big issue to be honest for the whole season and I'm just thinking about the pay Vig was a you know a nightmare before Steve the French derby so you can get away with the modeling the fringe at the moment. Which which which is a downside. Obviously Michelle obviously was. If you think about it he dropped back to Saint. James is Palestinians after the French Derby. So it's it's It's interesting kind of cast ties back in that direction as well like just was suggesting earlier on with him I'm going to butcher this pronunciations. Well Morita that's a good one. It's not difficult and Maria. Maria just comforted discharges. Yeah this is. This is more in the books agree now. He's going to get one wrong. It's that simple. I run lovely Marietta. I Love Marietta when I saw on the weekend before the race and and she was probably. She was at a good price when she was second in. The musset with sexy was my peak in the race. I thought she was going to win. For a long time T- just simply did not stay and that's the question mark for trainer moisturizer. Some says was you know. He's he doesn't simply she's GonNa stay the mile issue. That's the be questions. She's she's a good. But you could see the massive. She basically stopped at us under the fifty yards. I'll be near Wentz and won by two lengths but my dodgers stop and and until the race had been seven for long. I think she would. A woman will nicely. But just demise could could not get the my last year she gonNa get this year. That's the question that was very very soft. Brown wasn't it. Dairy was helped. Yes so she made the running. The ground was very soft so we could speculate and theme that he's been faster. I should probably an easier race beyond a lead. Wholesome things she could have stayed but still still question. Mark be we'll see she might come back in action on Thursday nearly stood at North Shelby. Seven over the easy. Seven phenomenal trump Which Ogle Streitfeld a French Guinness? Eight eight to one four to solve trust and Greenland. He meant to sixteen to one person. So it's quite a book. She also is behind she and she sort of trains Berge. That could be a good price I think looking at Beena could be one that they might think about bringing up over for the skinny one thousand as you would expect. That must into their mind if they can't race over in Ireland it makes makes sense Pudding so well. Last year be interesting. See if they if they if they are trained to stop thinking considering not As we discussed earlier older formed ties back in with and it would make sense given connections as well Jesse. That's a really good show. It's going to be fairly scathing indictment though of Irish racing if we have to like the the old gold who's WHO's taking doors to France. It's yeah you know. Japan did Anyway. Laos didn't he and they then there is a good targeted. No no no. That's what I mean is. It's a pretty scathing indictment things. Irish racing is not up and running. The alternative is that you know. Of course that will be a perfect example of why racing you know if it can be done well and a fingers crossed and touch wood. While in a in a safe manner in France that it'll be clear example of we're providing a benefit to another industry where we could be helping our own so we don't want that to happen but they've got to think about what's best for their racehorses so it's it's a second best candy option speaking of the New Yorkers family and Pasco Berry you have another New Yorker source on your list as well. -Til Katina. Yes to beat. Osceola Atlantic honest. Thank you and look at the race. Stay where they look about these two. He's when I I did my people on twitter speed the two horses Very interesting to see the same tiny could not find him Any entry or for this week so just wondering where. He's at the moment. Maybe Pascal each way tearful early fight to take place in return with a fresh Later on Luke starring Terracini B. B. Ocean Atlantic last year. Which is probably not the smart thing we know more on Thursday but he fell the Tanti captains to win by Tree Lonzo. Whatever you're think kitchen must be something serious. But he looks a except for sick and run where the girl was very soft and he never nuked but Was Quick to bounce back to Roman on your weather after that so he seems to be a very else. I like eastern a foot like attitude as well it looks like a proper house ratios and of the other so on your list. Who would you like to highlight for us for the final podcast listeners? Well there was abuse he schedule when we mentioned We mentioned earlier. But I'm just I'm just to be but but because he's not too big. I think we win. Cool up them seeming seeming the feed trained by gentle He won't Clairefontaine last year. She was impressed. He would have made an careful ten but a cobalt he much she did impressively but she didn't merchants. She doesn't scenes on the truck which is a very time. Surgical wanted to run into predrag. I but he decided he could take care because their rights would be to company. Kiefer a comeback run. So he's probably going to try to put an easier race. We won't BS anyway. We have some reserve own all on seeming. If he was that good maybe she would be learning independent auto the pivotal one of the points. So we move onto the Ark just as we come towards the end seeing is it's the premier the premier middle distance race in all of Europe taken last year by the French but of course the queen is going to be back and able still in training. John Gosden will be working his magic with her. And it's GonNa be fascinating to see how she turns up magical. We'll be there as well and we've talked about so tasks We're going to have a new group of three year olds a new crop of horses to come through. What is the market currently looking sportsbook so enable tops the market as she has done for the last? How many as six to one twelve to one specific gap control sixteen to one Japan? He's going to be very exciting this year. Sixteen to Jition also sixteen to one Pinatubo's in there at twenty to one stock to twenty five to one Crony Genesis thirty three two hundred thirty. Three hundred one quadrilateral he threes. And then you go mogul Stratovarius. Forty two one on Buna pride fifty to one military march which ter- making up what we've got a moment at sixty six one so we'll need to get it to the dorm to be included in at this moment. But you know very very very early on this a lot. A lot of water under the bridge and able being the obvious one and we know basam what happened last year. They were very vocal. Enable will winning Assad plan and I think she had one she would have probably retired so that going at it again. They WanNa make it happen and how it's up to them. It's going to be tough. I'm the biggest enable fan of all of all time but I think this season will be much tougher than last season. That's a bit of a changing of a God with these three year olds. Cutting full year olds Japan sought Suba. I think they're going to help that year. This year. Only getting going loss. Yeah the three year olds what we've got to look forward to as we said those. Three Shaw modell's Pinatubo bitter dorm enough tonight. They could be anything. And then you throw in the possibility stratovarius magician. It's just major major mega mega mega competitive. And I haven't even thought about further afield into national show. The Japanese always to bring big horses over. So we've got a really really hopefully as ever exciting October for two at the end of the season and As I said would be the one that I would like to hope to fry for France Lauren. Are you personally affronted that the bed fair sportsbook traders have not included victory in the dorm in the bedding? I won't criticize them on the highway north. Just kidding. No but at the moment very difficult to assess because we haven't seen any of the trio on either side of the channel if anything very decent Turns with in France in England in Ireland. It's GonNa be very difficult for the older horses to win. Deok in my view I was comparing the other day. There was making comparison between tribe and enabled and when you look at their career as a stray or they well sookie outstanding where they won the Arctic to them to get away with the troubles at for physical troubles. The two of them about different issues where yes. Divide in our They both got beaten beaten. And I don't think I don't think he's going to be any better for neighbouring. She will never be as good as she used to be. In my view. Sorry how can only be just with she was. I think you're right though. And it's going to be harder to train as much as John. Gosden absolute genius six-year-old Mare. It's GonNa be harder very very odd. It's not not only the trainer. These disappointeed horses only FAB. Then again longtime ago us to said that the though he wanted to a couple of other horses and guys last year was the kind of exception but he said Dianchi trio race. This is the the top price for the treorchy. And as I say there is any decent release you I cannot see value winning the. It's he's a fantastic cost isn't amazing horse and amazing stare but to win the architects something different not CNN lovely horse lobby host. But then again if if there is any. Decent to cure with a ton of tradition won't cope with it. He hasn't got two beautiful food. But but the shop for your like I've seen in France and may billions of French racing. He won't be able to it and I don't think anybody's anywhere is good. This was a tree and even for despite everything she enjoyed us. So it says the only order franchise at the moment That took a candidate In in the kind of Valley Geist provine but as I say we. I'm sure we're going to see a very good trio on a in England and in France. It's going to be very difficult for the whole season. So how would you call it? Then because you're listing out a a real all-star less than if we push you Jessen I foresee we're on either side on your shoulders and we're looking for the answer. Who is your idea? The ARC winner last year after the pitch clock out we'd have go to Victoria. Durham and of story. Just you're GONNA have to colas traders. I am absolutely are meat. Enters memo cat immediately? And we can't do D- It's fascinating because I came into this conversation thinking it's the Durham what to make him just for my impersonal assessment of him in probably ignorant in comparison to the other to Earth by and Pinatubo Bet. He seems to be a very very different. Wholesome separately to to them is making me even more excited for Monday. I'm a big Fan of Japan and said I think I think he was just getting going and he was really lost. The they ought to trim for him was again another bit light successor learning for him but I I think that he is a host that can improve like a lot of the the all types do and as an a full year old career and I agree that legit Shit might struggle. He's overseas injury to overcome on. You know of anything. It's the three great quote. Thought you know this is a three year old race. If anything. It's the three year olds. That will be be this You know bad legendary Kasit Yeah That will fill the void. That's been left by the guy's going moving on and I like to like to hope that they can do that. The King Georgia's race. Where you can you can sort of test this looking back from last year how brilliant it was will guys came over and enable. That was just the most sensational race. I'd love to see if we could have a convert Previ- for an for an alk is ahead beforehand. Because I think that's a really good test. Schedules zone very different. So what will happen for priorities for three year olds and is is going to change? But this could be the one time where we do see. Three year olds old horses from England. Arlen Francois Bachelor and we might not get see early on in the season. Which is something thinking about or considering? I would think if only I think if you don't take the French daddy winner this show Easter the French heavy straining. I don't think he become painting in England over the summer because the fringe shelby would come in the beginning of June night it would be given some break and I can see any French. W We not coming back in September. The Hawk either. That's been moved from June September. Which would be used as zoned for the guts? That's my you and I can see all the money can use head with some of these prospects. I know I know this a few firms. Have all Madelli priced up for the Arc de do wonder just when you were talking about Japanese raiders. Potentially deirdre is in training in the UK with an idea of running in the Ark. But I wonder how many Japanese and even Asian trainers will want to come to Europe given the current circumstances. Yep Contractors in that sixteen to see the very exciting Three year old food by deep impact for the Japanese Yeah you would. You would have to say specially if that the race is running in that that doing or I Tisza It would. It would be a question where we're GONNA be by October and like to hope it's going to be a little bit more normal but we could be looking at P- reluctant doors at no. I don't think so because in. I think there's going to be. There is a ruling from for the lockdown. They would be no new gathering of more than five thousand people in Thi September but then again we must false away from ten and three months away from it and there's going to be some change. I don't think we take place if it stays in the beginning of October. I just will not take again. I wouldn't be surprised now. I really hope because we have and we would gonna be as does the invite already just. We've got the invite we want to be on that flight. John Old gravy train seats. I've no problem unlike other contributors to this show who played down. Oh No no no absolutely on the gravy train and happy to say no problem at all. Party long shown greatest racecourse in the world. Oh the facilities are amazing. Would actually just be sad. Quite frankly if if there's an art we're not going on with the crowd because it's such a vibrant place and hopefully by that period I don't think life will ever be normal again as in what it was it will be the world postcode nineteen but we can look forward to good things and that should be a fantastic day and hopefully. They were the three of his role together. Final podcast listeners. As well all who always over to France. So what price would you want Laurel about victor the dorm for the yes? I would want the biggest price possible. I'm not sure just going to agree For that but I would suggest is. Let's wait until Monday. And let's see she steamed at hosts we saw last year. He runs up to expectation on Monday. I'm surprised if he doesn't I think he's the real deed but my dream not only majoring but we may step on Monday after after that. I don't think so to be honest but We see an there so if he happens to be beaten he's being trimester dust centene way to be beaten when your hall strained by only five and if you look at. Osceola county typical case so I wouldn't have to worry too much either. Waste going to read. That's the way he's going to run that we have to look for but I think it would be very out to beat though and we will get to see that sky sports racing on Monday and indeed the ARC Just before we leave any other questions for our star guests hundreds I just as Avalon so much because I really like probably a lot of our listeners. French racing is something that we probably with a bit of a U. K. In an Irish prison. We want to see how all get on in France and now it's very much. That's okay at the French Susan. How they've done. It's the so much to learn. So thank you for teaching me. The Persian King was the whole that I was most curious about which we touched on. Hopefully he'll be back because he. He showed so much potential and excitement last year and and so I fully calculator because obviously she came over to. She came over to the Breeders Cup. So the two that stood out to me. And do you know where they might be might be heading Persian King We saw last year than agent. Stay the in the P Jokic so being that I my race of you sleep I don't know what the is going to be with fishing. Cabins cine men to be goals. Would you respond? We're going to have to be company. Novara Mysore at this stage. I know he's a he's a big ause he that'd be very easy to keep selling very very type and if he could seem running maybe this summer at at Deauville. The mother would be. We'd be legitimate target. What what is going to take before that? I just don't know easy going to run a nine and a half in pound the twenty fourth of May. I don't know I doubt it so I don't do. What could he's going to? He's going to take but I could see him as a preacher Marlton. Maybe embracing a truck for David. Racing is wonderful. Wonderful to what the the racecourses absolutely we let Chris. He's safe and sound and castle lady. You mentioned Castellani Batista. She's not in training anymore so I really. She's been explained with me. She's in training some well but I don't know but she's left. Alex expand. Okay interesting okay. Maybe she might continue on in America. Says she would ask the scene. I I don't know I haven't thought up on this one. I saw something but I just can't remember sorry but of the so. Obviously we know the colts. It's going be victory. Durham and we're going to follow him over a cliff but of the phillies. Who you most excited seeing case. Erin definitely this. This might picks up my list at the moment at the moment. and What she did last year was something special. She warned that trade that missionaries that she won't Second win was the same race. Won by Goldie. Cova Mr Bean Watson seven and I think Freddie Eddie loves to use the same root of all. He's horses another sky. When you this year he won the race and newcomers raise at towards won't by Montgomery Celeste here in Montgomery was third pinnacle. The king is Sui just what you know the trainers. If he's if he if he has run KS industries. Ima think not just pretty certain we know have the French two thousand and one thousand guineas winners excited and I just. I think Monday honestly could be one of the most exciting days. I've had you guys going to be is going to be like Christmas even Sunday. We're going to be up. I didn't know how many different types of best we can be placed debate. It's going to be wonderful. I'm so excited. Chevron apologies to work it will not be walking. I'll be watching what's work. What what is work in this day and age? No exactly exactly Our knowledge improvement as people placing lookie sixty three based on Lauren's predictions and trying to get disgustingly rich as we sit back and watch party long show on skies racing. That will be the plan that will be the agenda on Monday. I'M NOT GOING TO BE SAFE WHENEVER I go back to. England if Victoria Finishes Fifth and sixth on the moment said. Don't worry if it doesn't work out this time. We know it's the OC becoming running off to you if he goes into one. We don't get twenty five's head as he could be. Pinatubo's twenties a fair a mess to the to the fair odds compiler is down in the down the boiler room and the sportsbook fives. You don't rate him leads. You don't think he's very good. Twenty lives if you gave me twenty five. No may we might just have to shut line flying. You mind. Just we're done so we're all gonna go often place a massive fixing the door. This is our futures bet to go and win the ARC US Laura absolute pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so so much looking forward to seeing you on Sky. Sports racing again very soon as well and of course your your excellent content on out the racist. Dot Com as well. But it's been longtime coming in an absolute pleasure to have you on the show. Thank you so much for joining Hispanics and thanks as always an absolute pleasure looking fourteen back on the show soon. Yes thank you. Thank you Laura on. You've told me lots apologized for my French. I will try got crew progress but it's the same for me. At least you tried at least try rights so from the terrible pronunciations from Jess and myself That's it we are back with two new podcast next week. Hope you enjoy them. Thank you so much for listening From Laurel thanks from jets. And for me. Emma's Kennedy Buongiorno. We'll talk to you next week. 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Chocolate fat roll, New Year new waistline..Battery daddy, hangover cures,Thai hot

Keep Calm and Cauliflower Cheese Podcast

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Chocolate fat roll, New Year new waistline..Battery daddy, hangover cures,Thai hot

"Beanie how everybody it's a friend is your old butler pow chapman and is keep coming cauliflower. Cheese twenty twenty one and it's Gorgeous to be here. I survived the christmas indulgence. I did. I did have some turkey. I'm su- turkey. Down now to be honest but i did have a roast duck breast as well which was absolutely delicious The dogs did get the scraps. Dogs did love the crispy duck breast as did i Am i making things ever since a turkey curry. I i made that. I've made a token cheese toasted sandwiches. I made a turkey pie. We've leaks I took it out. I'm sort of gobbled out said speak. I don't want to see a heavy breasted turkey now. I probably six months. And i think i'm going to have pizza tonight and then after that Maybe just a you know Salad diet for the next millennia. Trying to get off all the liberals. Because i now actually have a waistline Over hanging the hanging the trouser belt made entirely of balls and mince pies. Seasoned i would imagine in brandy And melty chocolate the hassle right. That's indeed what. I have as as my waistline now then. I realized that. I haven't got a new calendar. I didn't want to recycle twenty twenty. Because i thought that may be the kiss of death we do not want to reintroduce twenty twenty. We want to groundhog day. A twenty twenty pursuit of revisiting us like that goes christmas past present and future so i got the beginning of the calendar and of notable dates and is the basic twenty twenty one calendar. None of the beautiful watercolors on that. That i do like to see all the over north norfolk coast in front of me. I hope you had a good a good christmas. And a very very happy pleasant new year and it's joyous to be here gang as we as we get the penny farthing going again get alleged peddling into the new year and and see what it brings us walked new hope and aspirations brings more sort of nonsense that we have coming away here on the key common cauliflower cheese which is episode forty nine now people often champion. Are you going to have a celebratory fiftieth. I don't think so down in colorado but we cannot have a big party For off fiftieth edition. All the podcast. So we have to get a little bit creative but please no more zooming okay. So big ben had. Some significance is actually been repaired at the moment. I didn't if anybody knows that. A two hundred years out of data needs much as a house of commons. At the moment where they're living in a sewage system building the tines so not even. The world's largest plunger can help that situation But the talk of talking. The world's largest puncher brexit finally went for as well and many happy to get back there british cheese making processes many a happy not to have perfectly straight bananas anymore. They can go back to the curve. Banana which many people seem more comfortable with i. Suppose but but that's what's happened brexit's being pushed vote democratic vote from two years ago and it finally went through and A european cousins probably hate as even more And we'll probably be even more english when we go abroad and have our union jack budgie smugglers and who knows what else probably knotted handkerchiefs. And having a full english breakfast on the french riviera and And in in in south spain as well So let's get into the meat and drink of the podcast today. Some of the things. We may or may not be talking about to own key. Calm mancuso lower my old goo. Quincy's must not be forgotten so We've got a historical ten competition. We have an enigmatic english central. The first glimpse of the beatles footage in peter jackson documentary. What is also the worst safe word for americans. We're be examining that. We'll be looking at the battery daddy in a little bit too much time on my hands and the commercials but hey ladies and gentlemen. The battery daddy was introduced to me Over the course of the christmas period. And it's something i think. I do need very importantly over the course of the next year. I do need myself a battery. Daddy do you need to put myself in some of that slime That you can actually remove all dirt with you. Cover your whole car in this line and it picks up all the debt. You could cover yourself in in this line. Probably have a safe relations with people getting off. I suppose. And maybe you'd stick together forever and never be able to other apart if you were using this This slime as a way of cleansing oneself. Also the ritual boffin the time of jesus founded. Guess seventy nima. Christmas video helped macro-financial back into the nation's hot we also have a little bit of trump or trombone reintroducing itself into this heady days of the new year so we'll see what that brings us some hangover cures as well some victorian paula games to entertain you through the course of the last few days of the festive period is while you're very welcome As i said any ideas on our little. Celebratory fiftieth anniversary edition Coming along next week. Let me know on postcards postcard chappie towers as always and i wish to you and yours a very very happy new year. Twenty twenty one Let's hope we can Have a little bit more cheeky for 'voliti And maybe hug each other this year. Potentially that'd be robin is. Maybe we've been avoiding people we don't want to hug for year. So that's that's also recognize but settled down. I don't know if you've got a possibly need beanbag or something for christmas but raise or lower your posterior into the beanbag make yourself comfortable. Crushes beams with the next hour and enjoy keep calm and cauliflower cheese. So we seen the first glimpse of the fab new beatles footage in cepeda jackson's documentary. Paul mccartney is singing into a screwdriver. Handle ringo starr. Doing stodgy john. Lennon waltzing into the studio with shedding his first coat whilst clutching a cup of tea. There is in the woods of the filmmakers impeded jackson. Some really great stuff be fans have been given an early christmas present with a glimpse of the unseen. Purchase that forms the basis of jackson's documentary. The beatles get back draws fifty six hours of behind the scenes video. The band's nine hundred sixty nine recording let it be recording session which has never been shown to the public. The sessions have gone down if folklorist fractious a harbinger of the group's break up a year later. Biographies of recounted how lennon and harrison came to blows rows lennon's gopher joke owner and harrison's resentment at being marginalized the footage released paints a very different picture. Showing the band members. Joking play fighting dancing knocking their way. Free rehearsals at one. Point lennon teases harrison by setting a newspaper about his parents resulting of talk to reading music music reading the article. The beta's introduction to the song in another clip mccartney and lennon feigned outrage off the is interrupted by the bejesus don't interrupt stars whilst we're recording says a smiling lennon whip lottie stalls. You know bloody cheek so this looks fantastic The mccartney album was fabulous. The the winter song at the end of the album is amazing in this animated version that i do highly recommend. But i'm really excited about this. Peter jackson documentary when it comes out. beatle mania. All of that at it says it's going to be a is going to be a rip roaring view i think For the so once a day again. The social dilemma. Hold me over. The course of the holidays across instagram and twitter and into juries to probably the best invention of twenty twenty one the battery daddy. So don't have any of you have loose batteries loose impediments loose any loose Rechargeable battery Or lithium battery or whatever. It is individual this is basically a container that holds all of your batteries. I mean right. We all need this. Don't we do you know big battery. Small batteries some as big as you had some that could serve pows and pretty ingenious tolls that one might want to use some point and organizes test organized and stores about one hundred eighty batteries. And this is sent to me you know. I don't know why these people think i need a battery. Daddy you know. Do i seem like. I have some daddy problems in the battery area. I don't know maybe people know that. I'm i'm a hoarder clatter things and i were things a little bit of a hazard mess and the battery. Daddy might come in handy. Do i use a lot of bash. Most of battery's sort of installed but think really remote controlled but some of them chargeable. Now i mean what is the need for battery died in two thousand and twenty one. But anyway i'm i'm sold. I think i'm going to go out. And bu battery daddy But you know what sometimes you buy these things that didn't work out like the gloves way you can use your phone. It says you can use your phone. But gosh don by early no you cannot use your phone with these gloves. It doesn't work at your finger. Get stuck along swiping. It's not a is not. A good is not a good situation. Maybe a little bit of of lubricant on the finger whilst you're swiping with glove. That doesn't what key. I don't know i'm going to try. This later is new year's day. There's not a lot going on. So i'm going to try to coat my finger in samoa in maybe a little vassili and see if these gloves that did not work well did not work when they came for the post and see if see if i can actually get my phone working with gloves on. That's going to be probably the cost of the rest of the day. I suppose and also preparing my batteries for the battery daddy. The big controversial news as well. Coming in steakhouse chain miller and were caught using cheap white fish lobster meals over christmas. The chain of steakhouses become the second nationwide restaurant company caught serving lobster dishes. Using a cheaper whitefish mix millan. Carter were found by trading standards offices by using a product with about a third of real lobster and dishes such as porn lobster mobster cocktail starter lobster thermidor growed lobster surf and turf the frozen lobster. Sensations product made by. Kim prints contains a mixture thirty five percent lobster and thirty four percent. White meat shame. Form to look like lobster meat. What it's not as bad as the people who i think it was in some sort of burger chain in the us decided they would make their patties. Rat meet something. I didn't get around tokyo on christmas eve edition when my daughter was here. She wanted to keep talking about rats. But we didn't have time to talk about the rap meet that we used in burgers. But i think i prefer some sort of nondescript white fish too patty made out of rap meet oops stopped press the press. We have some breaking news. We go some news coming in folks right hot off the press. It's so hot. I can't touch this leg. Got ride to halt poker lorry-loads. Strawberries is first casualty. Brexit it's being four and a half years in the making a period characterized by an mississippi division and unprecedented political drama when brexit day right however the only real victim was a consignment of belgian strawberries o despite apocalyptic visions of traffic chaos at british ports. Hgv's flowing freely. To and from dover nearby channel tunnel today the trading relationship was put to a test a solitary truckload of stories from belgian at paid to be the first and seemingly only casualty the dreaded red tape as threatened to bring the uk trade deal to it's knees nope white for white for it. Yes and we do here. That bananas still straight bananas. I still strike. They haven't curved yet. We hoping to see a curve banana. In the course of the next week they would to twentieth century giants of figurative art. But when francis bacon and alberto giacometti bonded overfishing champagne one fifty figure preoccupied them beacons lover. George dyer a new play. Based on bacon recollections of his meetings jim carey has highlighted. The alert dia petty criminal became the model for many of bacon most renowned artworks according to michael peppy at the bacon biographer and writer. Vanu play jim. He was so taken with the told his fellow artists homosexual whenever he was in london but anyway when i saw this article first of all i thought it read bacon. Lover made berta jim. Eddie phil gay. When in london. So i thought that the idea of maybe extra crispy rather than you know. Fatty bacon may gm as he phil phil gay. That's is what. I want the bacon lover in london so we do have The covert crisis has a much dispatch for pensioner who's been separated from her pat crow. A renardi showman. Who live with charlie her pet crow for seven years kicking him. A soft boiled egg in the morning and stroking his head until he fell asleep. The ideal ended with the district. Veterans office in bob siegburg italian northern germany receiving an anonymous tip off they inform mrs showman that they've broken wildlife roles and took charlie away. I've grown so fond of him. They said i'll never get him back. She found charlie on the street in june. Two thousand three with a broken leg damaged wing. She took him to the vet and brought him home to nurse back to health. I wonder if i wonder if she fades charlie pieces of while they'd probably would be your cannibal so they wouldn't need of a doctor or anything but my dog george turns his nose up are a piece of rose stock. I mean what is wrong with this dog. Pallet i mean most fabulous things well but But very very very sad about the pet crowd and we go more german news German church finally says sorry for the bleeding wound of witch burning the flames of europeans persecutive. Witches blake physically in the bavarian city of i stop where an estimated four hundred innocent people were tortured for consorting the devil. This is four hundred years ago. Four hundred years in the making him but the thing about the whole docking of witches is if if you had a suspected which and there's many of them these days most of them on the desperate housewives of philadelphia utah miami county. Where else is the malibu beach. Probably as well. La all of these. Anyway you could put them on the stool and they would be tried to vein. Which is i think. But i mean you got the the situation where if ever if you put the witch undocking school still survived. It was a witch and then killed if it drowned wasn't a witch so she wasn't a witch so she survived slightly bizarre thinking for vomit evil cousins there in terms of which docking so. Has anybody seen the new new podcast from the duke and duchess of sussex. It's it's on archie well audio and it was a little podcast where they had fifty guests appear in the course of half an hour and prince harry was stealing my act being very self deprecating. It seems you know as usual south yesterday are terrorists are terrible goose by. I forgot to press record a during her on. Do you have any parts of christmas as you're bringing. Sick fish tacos. I don't want any more fish tacos. Taramov quest past you know. Maybe a chip body chip body would babson delicious on day and she was taking control. I don't think he was allowed near the controls to be honest but we fully support. I'm looking forward to many more podcasts. From actual audio and seeing what happens at the sussex this year will will prince harry paddled by the queen at some point one one hopes he might be but anyway we we shall see what what happens in the course of the year in the whole of the royal family debacle. There was a channel. Four spoof queen's speech with deepfake technology virtual version of the queen's jokes about prince andrew's legal difficulties. Boris johnson sex life and the tedium of a canadian subjects. in channel four's alternative christmas masses. Spoofs speech was created to highlight the deepfake technology which can make a pair. Real people with speaking. Words never crossed the lips. It's a bit like this podcast. This is really champion talking. The real champions doing lining he starting some callers and he's bracing some beef but this is a deepfake chappie literally deep and very fake. The actress deborah stevenson plays synthetic monarch with technical wizardry used to replicate the queen's facial movements mouth movements the four minute film which will have Which had three twenty five on christmas day was intended to make a serious point about the threat of deepfakes however includes shop aside. That may raise eyebrows. When i i kept traditional speaking to you at christmas but on the bbc. I haven't been able to speak plainly from the heart. So that's how it sounded. One thing has sustained. Many of us is our families. Which is why. I'm more saddened by the departure of harry and meghan. There are few things more hurtful than somebody telling you that they prefer the company of canadians. Most more like that. I would go and look at that if i were you The queen reveals a deep pond. Sean for net victim fill with To edinburgh and also there was some pretty hot things to say about prince andrew and shenanigans over the last fifty six years. How old is but anyway check it out. It's say alternative. Christmas message from her majesty. So there's a fascinating also. I read in the london times christmas. We spent allies staring into sliding doors. It's natural to be preoccupied with possibly did travel but who's to say. The destination would've been any better. You can imagine that by now you know where each of his life stories lead but that has started to fascinate. It's how we all came to be in these pandemic months with more time to think no kids no home. School and fewer diversions. The extraordinary nature of the ordinary is preoccupied. One in a way that never has before. So why why are we here And how easily might have been different. And how might have happened to us instead. One of us started. Life may be indiana one in manhattan bellingham a mile away from each other where we always meet. There was nothing remote the inevitable about said what else might have been. This is a neat thought. Indeed sandra miltie author of fascinating new book on not being someone else. Tales of our on lives rights thought is so bland that dwelling on. it sometimes seems fatuous. You're not someone else. That's not that but in the years of this year of all years when an unknown viruses leapt the species barrier in a far off place as upended our lives. It seems a good time to sort out. How the three drivers of allies contingency choice fake came together to bring us right here right now and the nine hundred ninety eight movie sliding doors accident contingency seem to take center. Stage the herron. Helen is shown to live two different. Lives depended on whether she manages to get on a train before sliding doors close if she does she. Discovers a sexist heat of boyfriend is for granted dumps him and takes up with a wonderful new chap. If she doesn't she takes longer to discover the infidelity and longer to meet the wonderful new champ. In fact now that. I've summarized that you might have wondered how how much difference the train doors actually made. The foams appeal stems from the fact that we've all at one time or of wanted. This had it not been for the chance meeting a glance across the room you could have easily walked into a back. Coughing in the face of susceptible market employees. This job the spouse the pandemic have taken if taken four or not more. What if triggered and sometimes What else could have happened nowhere. Does it see more true than we've considered our own existence. Any fertilized egg of them one created by parents will produce someone completely different. Had you met a chap of the new dad. Then whatever else would have resulted. You wouldn't have pats papa. History would have been very different but after that allowing for catastrophe car crash. Everything else nominees. How important is a rollup contingency when we look back at the big ten in points of our lives a say more that more than one incident but down appear accident more than twenty years ago by complete chance A wonderful colleague overheard many office on the phone. Receiving us at the bank will offer bridging loan to allow us to buy flat. We wanted we meet offered alone and had been in that flat ever since one key moment came when the writer that's otter was out of oxygen after two terms was a logical consequence of the kind of person become the turning point. After i made my in choice even i could barely understand or could hardly for see what the shunned alternative might have been in frost poem. The road not taken your for having made his choice. Pass through the would how way leads onto way and that we won't comeback to explore the other and taking road even though he expects it to be telling this w- somewhere ages and ages hence two roads diverged into a word and i. I took the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference. Indeed so i mean is it a good reflective moment as we make new year's resolutions and bright than constantly over the course of the coming weeks here You know what sort of road what's a path could we have taken and We should be happy with the path. We have taken In the course of our lives to this point we have another enigmatic leasing center. So john jack leslie so jack leslie who died earlier in twenty twenty became famous as lord of rave after. He developed a love of nightclubs. Jack was a prisoner of war. In the second world war when hostilities ceased he returned home to run the ancestor or the states in ireland however journey into sedate alday took an unexpected turn when he visited the local disco near his home and fell in love with edm. Jack celebrated his eightieth birthday in two thousand one by travelling to ibiza to party at the cubs privilege club then the world's biggest nightclub and was subject to documentaries about his clubbing exploits. Lord of the dance and uncle jack that boom boom music he said of experienced people were worried at first and said these might be rough but they're actually opposite everybody's so nice to me. The boys get pregnant pints for some reason girls kept telling me taking me out to dancing kissing me. It's wonderful the people fantastic and it seems to amuse him. That i'm there. They say they hope that. They're like me. And eighty five one boyfriend's arms around my neck and told me i was. His idol nightclub was named in his honor. Clones county monaghan and there was a facebook page where the cubs can share. The memory is so fun watching people dancing. The music gets into your bones and makes you get up and dance suggest said i get up leap around just as i feel like when i hear the boom boom it electrifies me. I can leap up and down. And it's if my ankles were electrified. You know what. I hope it eighty-five i could be doing that. I have a nasty feeling that i probably couldn't do that now. In terms of the the the minds willing the probably the body isn't but you know. I can still flash the glow sticks whenever i have the feeling to know. Okay so we have Never session of the highly esteemed headline game. Trump will trombone and is the story at trump or indeed trombone And that is that is the name of the game ladies and mantlepieces. And so i up on the arche. We have gold balls discovered in block. Sierra to municipal workers struck gold when i'm blocking serum brussels and might be tied to the value of half the trove. Was it worth eighty. Eight thousand euros. The two gold bars were found. When the workers pumped in high water pressure declare a blockage in solidly treasure Couple of nuggets. I guess in In the in the sewage there was what was discovered. I really have heard bound money growing on trees. But it's ridiculous shitting bricks of gold That sounds like bullshit. Berlin to me and One of loss fest is stories of the season. I suppose bear holding bloat clear snow in his driveway. With a flame for an epic footage timothy browning enjoyed it. Baroness agasi melted. The thick snow is flying for wireless wife video at the moment joked he was available for hire. Everybody dreams a white christmas but one man in kentucky wanted the snow of his driveway. Hurry the genius. Blood didn't waste time with a shovel instead. Pulled out his trusty flame. Incredible footage shows timothy browning from lexington clearing his driver starring smokes zegarra. Enjoys a bears. He sprays the flames all over the rapidly melting snow. The cheeky chat war just dressing gown and a ferry. Half of the videos shop is wife browning snow services removal now. Available she She records well. at least it wasn't the brandy. He cooked his own goose or went up like a christmas pudding in his flammable christmas sweater. Or or maybe is a reindeer. Underpants with rudolph's red nose. The downing street cat grabs the brexit limelight with pigeon pounds. Larry the street cat always a favorite camera. Crews awaiting news from outside the home of the british prime minister found himself. Captivating world's media. Mondays vein for the brexit breakthrough las week. But like all those ages who had been promising an imminent deal from is today. He flattered to deceive as he smoothly. Stop to pigeon pounced on it and then let it slip away from his grasp larry. The chief mouser in the cabinet office has being in residence in downing street since two thousand eleven is recruited from ezek dogs and cats home. Larry spreads his days greeting guests to the house inspecting security defences and testing antique furniture the napping quality so the feline probably does have a great attorney speed than to top cat in downing street. Boris but May maybe it stealth and sneak in his. Makes it more. Dominant conan's machiavellian of feeling cat and on christmas eve. Santa rides elephants to tie town. Where bearing gifts of face masks santa claus a christmas eve gave a sleigh and reindeer break on the road elephants into thailand during a special christmas visit aimed at raising awareness about the threat of coronavirus wipe bid at hamlets and floppy hat and sacrifice sat atop elephants decked-out and tinsel and trunk mass in the central province distributing protective mask to baskets distill school children. They're very funny. They're lovely so cute to the elementary students as the mass were handed out. Obi totally on board with this gift exchange. The face masks had a built in extracted pump in the trunk but then my daughter probably would call me a dumbo rushes. Fsba spy agency is facing widespread ridicule after lexie nerve. Anne president putin's domestic four joop one of its spies into revealing the sordid details of a botched underwear plot to murder him. Mr vanni spent several weeks in medically induced coma in germany after closing junior flight from tomsk to to moscow in august in europe where the opposition leader was poisoned by the type. Nava chuck the ban soviet not agent. Mr navalny revealed yesterday that he had called a member. The sec toxins unit had been behind the attempt to kill him. 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453: Family Productivity, with Bonni Stachowiak

Coaching for Leaders

39:07 min | 1 year ago

453: Family Productivity, with Bonni Stachowiak

"How do you balance productivity with personal and family life? It's a question we ask around our house a lot and Bonnie just released a new book on Productivity Tippety so this episode were responding to a question on how to align as much as possible this coaching for leaders episode four hundred fifty three produced by innovate learning maximizing human potential readings to you from Orange County California. This is coaching for leaders. And I'm your host. Dave stove leaders aren't born. They're made in this weekly. Please show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations. It's the first Monday of the month and normally on the first Monday of the month. We have a question answer answer show with Bonnie me. Recall me mentioning. We're GONNA have Bonnie on the show last week at the closing and I didn't say was going to be culinary show. We're actually knew something a little little bit different this time because Bonnie you are now an author right it is true. It is true although I feel like this still. QNA episodes just devoted toward one person's interesting set of questions. Indeed it is so let's at the state. You're a bit so most of you know that Bonnie is on the show here your once a month helping me respond to questions and in addition to being a regular guest here on the show. She is a dean of teaching and learning at her institution of Higher Education and also has a podcast called teaching in Higher Ed and teaching in higher. Ed podcast has become quite popular podcast in the Faculty Development Almond Higher Education Space. So for those of you who know folks who are teachers in work in colleges and universities. It's a wonderful resource for them and over the last two really really couple years. You've been working on this big project of authoring a book and it's just come out. I'm so excited yeah. The book is called the Productive Online and offline professor and with a little bit of background on that it started out being a part of a series of books for people who teach online but even the publishers. That's what they wanted originally but then after they started reading the book that could we expand this to be all people who teach and candidly for anyone listening. It really is a book for anyone who wants to manage. Is there time managed all of the inputs that are coming at them. And some of the things. We're GONNA talk about here so the person who wrote in with questions listened to an episode. so that Dave and I did for my podcast talking about the book and said that they were very glad about us sharing a little bit about some of the personal. The things that we do that are outside of the professional capacity and it made me chuckle. Because that's kind of what the books like. The book talks about a family member issue that I had come along because we don't just I live such compartmentalized lives. It really does look at that. Things are going to come up and and that's a somewhat. We're GONNA talk about today. So do you want to read the question. Yeah I'd I'd be happy to so Coleman wrote in from that episode and had a bunch of questions for us and we thought it would be fun to see if we could tackle as many of these questions as we could good because he sent us a really nice note key wrote in and said I loved your recent episode with Dave on your upcoming book and I'm excited for the book's release one part of the conversation. That particularly struck acme was about attending kids birthday parties which we talked about in a previous episode here to Swell Bonnie name here. It is a I love that you and David figured out a system that works for you. It got me thinking that I would really love to see a productivity program or book particularly aimed at couples families and parents the ones that I've read tend to either a he implied that productivity is something you mostly do at work that creates margin for less structured family time or be encouraged the reader to apply the principles to home life but don't provide the nuts and bolts practical advice on how to do so for me. The reality is that applying productivity advice is relatively straightforward in the workplace but more challenging when it comes to working together with my wife on her whole life stuff which includes official work stuff but also everything else. I'm curious about the practices. You and and Dave have to manage podcasting teaching administration childcare family vacations etc.. Do you have regularly scheduled meetings with each other. Do you work out shared quarterly goals. Goals as a family. Do you have shared calendars shopping. List Family Organization APPS and do you know of any productivity books or programs that have particular practical advice for families. If not maybe be you and Dave could write one. So let's see. We can tackle as many of these we can. Bonnie we put our heads together and I think we have five or six areas. That came up in response to Coleman's question that we can dive in on. The first point is around margin one of the things that really can cause us to break down own is not leaving enough room for the unexpected Dave and I just had this happened right now. We sat down to record this very episode and Dave had a new you piece of equipment that had come into the mix and our sound levels. Weren't right I think that got US delayed by approximately six minutes and forty two seconds could be off by a minute or two days or something like that and we were just fortunate enough. That the person who's bringing their son over to play with our son just happen into Texas Dave moments ago to say that they're going to be late otherwise we would have not given ourselves enough margin for this. so that's I mean Dave and I know that this is not one of those crucial moments in life. We would have been able to adjust our schedules later in the day. But we really do put a lot of buffer in around things like this everything from to me if I can drop the kids off at school. Fifteen minutes early. That means. I don't have to wait as long for all of the other parents that have decided to get there on in time because on time is just so close to being late. It's not even funny but any unexpected thing. That happens any rain that comes as part of the road that we drive drive on is sometimes gets flooded when it rains. I mean you just never know what's going to happen so I enjoy getting places early leaving myself enough margin. I enjoy when we're having in conversations not to pack agendas too heavy and that comes to the agenda that Dave and I have we tend to about once a week sit down and have the three three F conversations and this comes from a podcast or I can't recall who it was but variations of this float all over the place. I don't remember the reference either family food and finances. I think are the three fs that someone said on some show that we have watched onto and for us a big part of the family one has to do with our calendar under so we'll sit down most weeks before the week starts and we'll look who's taken the kids who's dropping them off and you might think well isn't that the same every week and actually in our a case it is not but the other thing is. I'm the one who usually puts in the kids calendar. It's actually we use apple products. We use an iphone and in in our Max and so we have it on the calendar that you could do the same thing with Google calendar. I'm the one who manages the kids calendar so I invite Dave to the Times James when he is supposed to drop off or pick up the kids and there have been one or two times over. What would you say Dave like a three to six month process but fortunately we we do have the backup of looking over our calendars together? We have never left our children at school. They had to call us and say hello. Your children are still here here. Where are you yeah? It's somehow it's all worked out and the larger point here that I was thinking about on margin. Bonnie is that we I admit like anyone else. We have those days word just back to back crazy schedules. Because of things that are either inside or outside of her control depending on the situation generally the principal though we do look to find wind margin and especially during family time and what was making me think of this particularly Bonnie was. I saw an article in the Guardian which I'll see if I can link up in the show notes about out weekends and how at least here in American culture weaken time with families has shifted over the last. I don't know however long but the author was saying that you know it's hard. It was hard for our kids before they had made some changes to notice the difference between weekends and weekdays because their weekends as a family. Were so so hyper scheduled and making the point that that is a norm in a lot of our society right now that every available moment has really been scheduled and I and I read that article and do resonate a lot with these parenting articles on many habits that we fall into culturally. They're very true of the people around us. But I would say and this one. We are pretty strong as far as departure on. We have a pretty clear delineation between our weekdays weekends and on weekends. I think it's the exception. I should say no. It's the exception that we have things really really scheduled out and we do occasionally have busy weakens but we really do try to find time. We've just got space at margin and oftentimes. We don't know what we're GONNA do on a Saturday afternoon. Four three or four hours and sometimes we decide. Sometimes the kids decide. Sometimes we do nothing. Just hang around the house. Sometimes we'll do something last minute but it allows us the ability to be a little more creative live and also a little more responsive to what also the kids want to do just as an example. Our son this past week. He's really into rocks and geology. Right now saved on a big unit unit on that at school and he said Hey dad. Let's go around the neighborhood and just look for rocks and so we did that for like two hours and just went around grabbed a bag and grab a couple hammers and just went around the neighborhood and started looking for rocks. And that's the kind of thing that my sense is talking to other parents and families in our community and the folks that we work with is that that is not as typical these days where that space that margin is a pretty regular part of weeks and that is something. I think we've done a better job on then than probably You know in in most scenarios a book that I read recently that reinforces this as called range and it is the counter argument to do the Malcolm glad well ten thousand hour rule and it instead of saying we specialize in things that says. Hey we would be better off if we explore a lot of different avenues Vanu so we don't have either of our kids in any kinds of sports that would take multiple practices per week and then multiple games per week. A lot of parents parents that we know spend significant time on the weekends at those kinds of games and we can only hope that when our kids get older opportunity to dabble so our son is dabbling dabbling right now in a baseball club that is held after school but it is not as intensive as if he were on a team and having to do those multiple practices and games and they do have after care at our kids schools. So that makes it nice to that if we have times where we're not able to pick them up immediately after their activities as or after school then that means it's just a good system for us to have and then since I work at a university. There's often times where I might meet someone who's majoring in education. Not In the business program that I teach in and so we have good access over the years to really people really care about our kids and our excellent at carrying for them into downtown systems is one of the other big things that we have spent a lot of time and attention doing and you mentioned calendars earlier. Bonnie we do have really good systems for having everyone's wants calendar linked together we review that regularly. We've got good systems for childcare after school. And I know a lot of folks don't necessarily have access to that and that's something that is a game changer for Ross and then we also we mentioned on the show before we use acuity for professional calendering and schedules and that allows us to define the Times that folks can schedule Agile into our system so it's really accessible for people to get a hold of us and be able to schedule with each of us and it also defines for system. Tom Wise when people can't necessarily reach out to us and schedule with us. Which is super helpful on just utilizing the system in order to create that margin in terms of calendars I pretty much maybe nine out of ten of the people who have watched our kids over the many years only one out of ten of them has actually used their calendar on their phone before for meeting us and I think ten out of ten of them walk away and say this is really a good program to actually put commitments that I have in a calendar. But that's a nice thing to where we're able to sort of confirmed confirm that that's the time that we have. That's the location that we have a lot of miscommunication gets fixed before it even has to happen because of that and then the other system that comes up Balat in the book and also comes up in our lives. A lot has to do with wet David Allen in his book getting things done calls the practice of capture we. We have daily emails coming from the Kansas School. We have today. I mentioned a friend of our sons Dave's arranged for him to come over and play with our her son and so that took coordination some texts back and forth. There's lots of inputs that are coming into our lives and we have a way of capturing capturing them and then determine what do we do with. This is something that needs to go into. Our calendar is something that needs to go into our task management system. Is it something that really should be deferred that I. I shouldn't worry about it for a couple of months but I need to have it come pigmy again. After the couple months has gone by so having that trusted system that we can capture things things even when the kids were really young they would write on a whiteboard what they were doing each day and Dave would regularly take a picture of that so I'd have a sense of what book was red. And what kind of Snack Dad. And any kind of themes it makes it easier to talk to your kids about what they're experiencing in their lives if you have some kind of a prompt generally speaking in how is your school day today doesn't prompt as much as you I saw you were experimenting with the Butterfly Garden. Did you get to visit. And how many butterflies did you see. What colors were they? And all that kind of thing I will admit to not always been as great at capturing that whiteboard which is why I did not include myself in that story. I think I might have had maybe one out of ten times times. You got to see what was on that whiteboard Dave. Well you know. The principal is what's important here and this brings up a a broader point for both of us to is none of these things we're talking about. What do we execute with? Perfection is of course what they generally do though is help us to be a little bit more present a little bit more joyful. We'll have a little bit more margin and when I think about capturing I think about this on a broader concept to because the the kinds of people who listened to both of our shows and who we tend to work with and in our professional lives are people who care a lot about getting things done. They're smart efficient hardworking. People that are moving things forward and the thing that I hear a lot that people struggle with in fact we had this conversation in one of our academy groups. The other day is how do I keep from moving on everything because we have so many smart mart people that we get to be around. And there's the tendency to have all these things on our plate in forty things that were interested in doing and that professionally. We're we're working on and wanting to be good parents and wanting to be good spouses and partners and there's no practical way to all of those things well at any given time and and one of the conversations we had around capture recently. Bonnie is the importance of being able to capture something but also to be able to capture it it so it gets out of our brain and we can incubate on wall because I think the challenge. I haven't I think for a lot of folks is that we think about something like oh I want to do a better job Bob of being present with my kids this week. And that's in our mind and their seven other. Things are already urgent and important on the list this week and our intention is really good but but we don't actually execute on it and then we feel like we need to keep thinking about it and we feel guilty about it and we don't move on it and one of the practices is that I've really developed over the last couple years. Is I have a list called incubation on all my devices that sings across and when I think of something that I can't move on in the moment or this week or this month which is most things so I'll open up that list and I'll put it on the list and and then when I get to the points where I am able to make some decisions about. What do I WanNa do this week? This month. Whatever the timeframe is then then I pull out that list and at that point I make some decisions about which of those things that I thought about that was really important to me and I was panicking about at five thirty thirty in the evening on a Tuesday night? That's really actually important with some reflection of the forty or fifty things that show up on that list and for me at least being able all to have an idea get it out of my head put it somewhere. I know I'm not GonNa Forget it. I am going to come back to. It has helped me to stay focused on the things that I've already committed to in on that day that we can that month and be able to know that I'll do something with it later in. It's not cost. And if it's important to me I'll come back to it. I have a similar practice that I use news but two different types of incubations one is. It's just an idea. Wouldn't it be great to take the kids apple picking at this place that I've heard of that apple. Picking by the way has been on this list for years now on this but I don't have to stress out about it because it's a separate list from the things that I've actually committed to and that had decided sided are important to me and the list that I keep is also recommended in David Allen's book getting things done and it is a someday maybe list I have a someday maybe list that I use for activities with the kids I use for places we might visit things we might do but I also use that for technology I really enjoy reading a lot of blogs about technology and automation and I enjoy reading about productivity. I cannot follow through on all of the ideas that come up about technology. Jammeh us in my teaching so I've got some day. Maybe list that right then when I have that idea. That's the time to put it down or when I'm coming across it but I don't want if I did that for all all of it would clutter up my main task manager. That really is more geared toward the things that are crucial. The other thing I took from a physician who also writes about about productivity called Karouche Dini and he even advises us to think about the verbs that we use. Is it. Finish the draft is it. It call so-and-so email so and so to really get precise about what does done look like even as we name the task and when it comes to some of the other things that I decided are important enough to be on my task manager to be in that list of projects and tasks to move me forward what I might really really be telling myself is to consider doing something and he really advises us to become people of integrity not just with other people but with ourselves elves and if really what we intend on doing is considering taking the next module in some professional development course or something like that that's the verb to us and then you have a system that you know you've told yourself the truth about what's most important and then about what done looks like and done very well could be consider doing this. I really liked that. I really liked that a lot. And I mentioned enjoying reading about productivity quite a bit one thing Dave that has come up a lot for me was instead of focusing on lots of resolutions and goals focusing instead on habits and we try to do that with our kids. It's too although for us. We call them family responsibilities. Most people used to call these chores. But to me as I am thinking about it Dave those are really habits that we're trying to instill with our kids and I just as of today got done coming up with their list of responsibilities and they can check them off and see how they're doing and Dave I just we've got this APP called streaks that I'm enjoying because I'm trying to track how often that I go. I do most of my reading in bed when I read my ipad Pat I read a lot of. RSS Feeds those are customize newspaper that comes into my device and I love doing that but I'm missing out or had been missing out out on the opportunity to do more long form reading so I have set a habit related goal of bringing only my kindle to bed four times a week doc. I'm telling you Dave this has been hard at first the now. I've gotten to the rewarding part where I've been reading no joke Dave ten times more then I was reading previously. And I know I've I've seen researchers that talk about that. Our brain really does get messed up when we're doing a lot of internet reading eating because we do a lot. More sort of skimming is dancing around the page but those same researchers talk about how fast you can retrain your brain to do the longer form reading mm-hmm and now I'm just having so much fun reading so many more books and really getting a lot out of that deeper and longer form reading speaking of retraining brains some you are really naturally much more collaborative than I am And particularly with the kids have getting them involved on things. And that's something that I think that that I suspect a lot. More people are in my camp on that not in a good way but in like struggle with that you know and especially especially to the thing earlier of like a lot of being smart efficient wanting to get things done we tend to jump in and do stuff and we forget to delegate as leaders we we forget to delegate as parents and it's really remarkable to me the capacity that M- it should be but it's remarkable to me the capacity that children have half when they are taught how to do something set an expectation. We've got a framework for it. We get a part of her system. You've done a masterful job of like. They put away their own laundry in our house and they're five and seven years old and they water the plants. They put together snacks in the morning. At least part of the snacks they have responsibilities for keeping the house clean and and they don't believe wine about that much. I mean every child winds sometimes but it's a pretty good system we've got going in our house and part of that is just taking the time to do it. But part of it is also just having the expectation of like you know within age appropriate ways of course of Saint. Yeah you know. It's not only good for them but it's also so really helpful to us a lot of ways to have shared responsibilities and to collaborate and the invitation. I'd make that for those of you who are parents and and who you are living in households with lots of people the spending some time thinking through those responsibilities and who can do what and who's talented. What areas and setting some expeditions? It really goes a long way. Part of it comes out of my weakness of not being very good at being present so one of the things you're great at Dave is being fully present in the moment for people and then includes our kids and to me. That's just not as joyous of an experienced like us to be moving toward some kind of a goal. That's why it'd be a lot more if I over going out somewhere you know just sitting around when when our daughter may say well you play with me. You're a lot more likely to say. Yes in fact. She doesn't even ask me that she's as your nose she's learned and yes it does absolutely take longer and yes by the way. I'm chuckling because Dave was not around this morning to hear the winds that were coming or the put the laundry away but to me. That's more enjoyable thing to do that kind of collaboration. Even though it absolutely takes longer but boy I'll tell you our older older child our son who's seven almost about to be eight. You Know He. He does a lot of the stuff without me even ever asking. And I think there's hope for even a lot more of that happening in the future a two but one of the things I was going to mention is that I have had to learn and relearn and relearn one of the best productivity things that might not seem like it is to remember that Dave and I are on the same team and also you know that the kids are on the same team. You can really set up a lot of really hard baggage around emotions motions. If you decide that you and your partner are not on the same page not on the same team and so recognizing that you will have natural strengths. Your default default settings. My default setting is stronger in the area of collaboration. Dave's default setting stronger in the being fully present as as opposed to being out into the future. Like I tend to be doing more of but both of us know that we're on the same team and by the way just I don't get to use as an excuse of well all I just can't be president so you're going to need to play with the kids because that's the age of there we don't we don't just because we may not naturally have that as our default setting doesn't mean we shouldn't shouldn't try to incorporate that into our parenting because collaboration is important because being fully present and having that margin is important but also just remembering and bring. We're on the same team here and having those kinds of conversations about what is this team about what's our mission. What's what our goals and we spent a long sometimes coming up with our family vision statement and it's something that has really been a driver for us when we go back and revisit it to thinking about? What's this team came about? What are we aiming for and helping our kids to talk about that too? A lot of it is around joy. A lot of it's around learning and a lot of it's around bringing more love into the world and we talked to our kids about that kind of stuff literally on a daily basis. It's it's great so this has been fun to reflect a little bit on some of the practices that we use and tonight encourage people to follow up in the show notes for the other resources that are mentioned. And if you're interested in the topic of the book love for you to check out the book. The productive online. An offline professor and yes it is geared around someone who teaches in a higher education context but as I mentioned there's a lot of examples just of life in general in their do indeed and speaking of life one of the things that Coleman asked about that I don't think we've entirely explored yet is the balance between professional and personal and we've been talking about personal in how we do that and that's a place for me that being conscious of what hat I'm wearing on any given day or hour is helpful and you've all heard on this show before the distinction between leadership and management and there are all kinds of opinions on the way I tend to see it as I'm a fan of the way John Kotter tends to break this down of leadership is about. How do you answer? The question of change and management is. How do you answer? I answered the question of complexity in every organization that is successful in any way needs to do both of those whether that organization is household a family a small business a large institution and what changes is the kinds of roles. And how much of those things people do Who are in positions of influence and so in our household we both of us need to lead and also manage on a daily basis and there's probably more management commit to be done at any given day than there is leadership as a lot of organizations to and I think what we are both good at doing is is knowing that we need to put on those hats and knowing when we're putting on those hats and I think the mistake probably that I see the work I've done with folks and talking about in when family family things come up and personal things come up with our clients is that there is not a as much leadership that tends to happen in her home? Liz as of really stepping back and consciously deciding what's important it's very easy to fall in the trap of just managing the day-to-day stuff in. I'm getting people to school and figuring out what meals needs to be cooked. And what is your to clock on Saturday afternoon. Look like and WHO's watching kids there and carpools and all those things go along with busy lives personally and it's hard in the context of that to step back and think what is important for us as a family over over the next ninety days or over this year and one practice that bonding I both do. Is We do very consciously put on the leadership at once in a while. Sometimes we do it together. oftentimes we do at a pardon. Kinda come back and we talk with each other about what we've done is I know I take half a day every two to three months to sit back and Dan to go through that incubation list and make some decisions about what's important over the next two to three months and I often share that with Bonnie and then we kind of go back and forth and she does the same thing and and that for me at least gets me in a place of thinking about how do I put on that leadership hat and decide for myself and for us as a family. And what do I want to be doing for Bonnie. What do I want to be doing for the kids and being really intentional about that? So that the rest of that ninety day period when Rome mostly wearing the management hat I can execute on the things that are are really important and Bonnie do something very similar to that not exactly the same but similar yes. I do have a goal setting. I do typically a half of a day about once. It's a month that I set aside and take that time to go through my goals and think about the next. I was doing trimesters but actually the planner that I bought is now a quarterly planner. So I'm I'm probably GONNA shift back to thinking in terms of quarters. Just like businesses do not academic institutions. But I started using Michael Hyatt's full focus planner and absolutely loved that thing but one of the practices. He recommends are every day every week every month. What are the three big wins for that time period period? And that's really helped me stay focused and put on that leadership hat and think about the really big things but yeah. I think that you probably more than I do. Dave will spend that time thinking specifically typically around the kids in terms of your leadership. I think that it would be hard for us to both yes. Let's sit down once a month together. The two of US sometimes. They'll they'll sometimes. I think we hit it at different times and in different ways and that we do check back in but we tend to check back in more holistically thinking about our work lives. We talk a lot about our work lives with each other and then our podcasting lives crossover quite a bit. So there's that part of it and then there's the family part to it all blends together you so much of what you've done over the years and what I've done and a lot of people don his moving all of their task management into digital systems and services. I've made that move. I'm still there. Almost honor presented everything digitally one clear. Shift I've noticed in the people I work with and you and I both seen this is. He is a lot of people not everyone. But a lot of people starting to rethink that Abed and still doing a lot of the digital things but also pulling back from some of the digital planning meeting and going back to analog at least for some planning and some task management and that's actually one and full disclosure by the way we have affiliated with my clients full focus planner and one of the reasons we did that. It wasn't because of me so much but because of Bonnie. Because you've been using it so well and it's worked so well for you and I've heard from so many folks in our community that have really gotten value out of it so this is okay long lead into the question which is how do you see this distinction between digital and analog and what are some things may be you've thought through and I'm wondering what others may consider if they're I'm trying to think about what's the right system for most of my life is in the digital because there's so many parts and pieces and things that my brain would not do well an anyone's brain would not do well. David Allen has a very famous quote that says our minds are for having ideas not holding them and I really have live that out in terms of if it's a commitment that I've made for even every podcast episode has about twenty steps that need to happen on my end of things. I don't mean days podcast I I mean teaching in Higher Ed and it would be really impractical for me to think I'm GonNa Track all that in my head and no. Did it happen by the day that this episode is supposed to air so I really rely on technology for having due dates that are actual dates. When something's really do as opposed to it's important? I should get to this as soon as possible where I use a flag for that and then I also used a for quite a bit. I can in my task manager defer things out so I'm just being presented with with the most important things that are either date-specific or priorities specific and then I've really enjoyed the planner because it helps me step outside that so I can look at what's going on this week but okay for today. Then what are the three big wins and I laugh because he would not have anticipated. This would be that important Dave but the planner you open it and it stays open. Sounds like something really basic but like most planted flip back goals. There is a whole system that when I get it you kind of. He has a whole video that he shows you how to open it. Up and SORTA crease the pages so that you can get the most out of that feature but I mean that's so awesome. I never would have even thought to even ask for that and a planner. It's got a couple different little silk bookmarks to that I can the ones that are ribbons. You know that. Come out of the planner that I can put in different spots in the plan or but I just liked that getting out of the digital because then I'm not behind a screen the entire day especially when I'm on campus. I am in relationship. I'm an interaction and I find it. I can be coming across as a lot more present. If I'm not trying to type something into a digital device and then I can in just the end of the day I can go and capture anything that needs to go back into that digital system and you know you can capture things so easily today even just with the a scanner APP on your phone to be able to put it back. We'll see I'm a little bit behind on that. But the other part is has an index so if it turned out that you wanted to get something from your analog note taking you could always do that fairly easy find it from the index. That's in the back. So yeah I'm I'm mostly digital. I do find some people who like having a look at the whole entire year to as another hanging up somewhere to see some of the big things that if they travel a lot or they're more of a seasonal type of person that can be helpful flu. But I have not done that myself. Thank you Bonnie for this. And I'm so proud of you for all the work you've done on this and helping people integrating the book so the book is the productive online and offline professor a practical guide. If you know someone who's in higher education would benefit from this or if you just like another perspective on how Oh to be productive so many tools and resources in the book and a personal favor if you do decide to purchase the book or if you know someone who decides to purchase the book a take a moment and leave a rating or review on Amazon for Bonnie. I know that she'd really appreciate that. And thank you so much money for Sharon your wisdom with us. Thanks to Coleman for the great questions to you talk and not just on today's episode but well beyond that it's great to hear from you. Thank you so much Bonnie for those of you who do decide to jump in on bonds both are in higher education. We'd love to hear what has been useful to you from the book. Please reach out to us. In addition we've captured so many of the links and resources we talked about in today's episode. That will be in this week's weekly leadership guide. In addition there several related episodes to today's conversation if this was useful to you one of the episodes I'd recommend is episode. One eighty four getting things done on with David Allen. Getting things done has been the system that Bonnie and I have both used as the foundation for so much of our work over the last ten to fifteen years. David Allen is the author of the book by the same name and join me on episode one eighty four to talk about the core tenets behind getting things done and responded to questions from our listening audience. That's a great starting point if you're looking for a system that you can build your productivity principles on not only professionally but also personally that's upset one eighty four. I'd also invite you you to consider episode three seventy six how to become the person you WanNa be with James Clear on that episode James and I talked about his bestselling book atomic habits and the transition. That a lot of folks are starting to make from not just setting goals anymore but really beginning to think about taking on a new identity around our habits and James's work really does that beautifully and has a really nice philosophy and also a structure for how to create habits bets. That will really invite you to change your behavior in ways that align with the identity WanNa take on episode three seventy six where to go for that and then finally. I'd also recommend four seventeen finding joy through intentional choices that one was also with Bonnie and in that conversation we talked about all all the things we don't do. That's right not what we do but we don't do not only professionally but also a bit as a family and we were really surprised. Pleasantly gently of how many people reached out to us after that episode aired on how useful that conversation was and giving a bit of permission for say no to more in life which which probably is something. We all need to do a better job. As I know that we're still searching for ways to do a better job of being intentional on the things we say no about so that were table to dive in with even more quality time and attention to things we say yes about again. That's episode four seventeen all of those past episodes you. You CAN TRACK DOWN ON THE COACHING FOR LEADERS DOT COM website. And one of the places. You'll find on the website if you have your free membership set up is our episode library. There's an entire her. category of episodes around productivity non tire category run work life balance. There's even a category around parenting so if you are looking gene for more resources on those in addition today's related episodes. That's a great place to begin. You can set up your free membership. Just by GOING OVER TO COACHING FOR LEADERS DOT COM mm-hmm and establishing it there. Once you do it's going to give you access to the entire episode library that we've erred since two thousand eleven searchable by topic pick in addition the weekly leadership guide plus there several free audio courses. That are there one of them is hot. Create your personal vision. We talked the bit about our family vision. And it's a wonderful starting point for you if you're reading a professional vision a personal vision or as I invite our cabinet having members to do is to do a little bit of both be thinking about the future two to three years out that free audio courses a wonderful starting point for that next next week. I'm glad to welcome back to the show David Marquez former. US Navy captain. He has a new book coming out and he's going to be teaching us how to ask better questions. I don't Miss It. Have a fabulous week. See next Monday take care.

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Apple Removes Vaping Apps from App Store - DTH

Daily Tech Headlines

05:25 min | 1 year ago

Apple Removes Vaping Apps from App Store - DTH

"These villi tech headlines for Friday November fifteen twenty nineteen. I'm rich draw. FELINA apple apple removed. All one hundred eighty-one vaping related APPs from the APP store in a statement to axios apple said is updated its APP store review guidelines to forbid APPs encouraging or facilitating the use of vaping products setting a CDC report that found vaping devices a public health crisis and a youth epidemic apple previously stopped accepting new APPs related taping back in June and never allowed for the direct sale of vape cartridges through APPs tech crunches. Josh Constant reported that facebook is testing an instagram like feature called popular photos within the main facebook APP which adds an endless scroll of Algorithm Khalid determined images from friends when selecting a full screen photo from the news feed feed popular photos feature a black image background and truncates any captions after sixty five characters. facebook confirmed that the feature wasn't testing to some users back in October with plans to integrate on the idea and conduct future tests. INSTAGRAM has expanded its test of hiding from the public to a subset of all worldwide users. INSTAGRAM program started the test in April in Canada and has been slowly expanding since the change. Lets users see who like their own post. And Total Count Tic TAC announced its testing adding links to e commerce and other sites into a user's profile bio as well as adding social commerce content a tick tock spokesperson confirmed that this is part of tic TACs routine experimentation. That's focused on ways to inspire creativity. Bring Joy and add value for our community in an interview with the verge. Microsoft's head of Gaming Phil Spencer said he expects to launch Microsoft's X Club Game Streaming Service in two thousand twenty in the US. Spencer also said the company plans to integrate ex cloud with xbox Game Pass in two thousand twenty bringing game streaming to Windows ten. PC's while currently only confirmed to run an android mobile general manager of X.. Cod Catherine Gluckstein. Luxton confirmed that the company is building a prototype. IOS APP and working with Apple Two lots on the platform. Microsoft also plans to expand ex-college preview to Canada India India Japan and Western Europe next year gives motor reports that according to multiple sources the US Federal Communications Commission plans to scrap and replace it's electric comment filing system. The system was first introduced in nineteen ninety eight as a way for the public to provide input on proposed rules online recently. The system has come under criticism for easily allowing comments to be posted using stolen identities. And not deleting comments when identified as fraudulent as well as crashing under heavy load according delete e mails a roundtable with external stakeholders was being held this week to identify features and changes needed to make the new system effective. The the Internet society has sold the DOT Org Registry Operator Public Internet registry to ethos capital on June thirtieth. I can remove price controls from the DOT Org Registry Ethos capital is a new private equity firm led by Eric Brooks Brooks just came over from abry partners which recently hired former president of global domains. Opera Akram Atallah to run domain name Distri doughnuts doughnuts co founder Gian Nebot left after the acquisition to become CEO of Public Internet registry. Former senior vice president Syed Ori is also at ethos capital. The Chip Startup Nubia raised a fifty three million dollar funding round led by Dell Technologies and disclosed. Its founders for the first time the company was founded by Gerard Williams. The third who recently left apple after nine years as Chief Architect Act for CPU n system on a chip Designs Medical Lottie a former alphabet employees. WHO also worked eight years at apple working on mobile? SOC's and John Bruno who worked at Apple's platform platform architecture group neoplasia developed data center chips. That are faster or power efficient and more secure than current. X86 offerings saying that. The area is rapper innovation and advancement while ways foldable mate X. Device went on sale in China on the morning of November Fifteenth for Sixteen Thousand Nine hundred ninety nine yuan or roughly the two thousand four hundred. US dollars do ongoing US trade restrictions. The device is not ship with Google. Play store or any. US made ships. While way has not stated if x we'll be available for sale outside of China and finally Google revealed that experiment rolled out to these stable channel of chrome was causing some browsers access through virtual machine environments display white screens and leave the browser unresponsive specifically affecting citrus environments. The experiment silently switched on the flag that enabled a new web web content seclusion feature which spends crump tabs when another APP is moved over top of them to save system resources. According to Google Engineer. David Ben Vanu the experiment. FAIRMONT has been in Beta for about five months and had been previously rolled out to one percent of stable chrome browser for about a month without report issue. 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NPR News: 01-28-2020 6PM ET

NPR News Now

04:39 min | 1 year ago

NPR News: 01-28-2020 6PM ET

"Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. The president's legal team wrapped up its opening argument to senators. I today against President. Donald Trump's removal from office is. NPR's Bracken Booker Explains House impeachment manager say trump's lawyers can't defend the president on the fax ax and renewed their call for new witnesses. House impeachment manager. Adam Schiff says the president's defense team engaged in smear tactics irrelevant to the two articles of impeachment been trump faces today and in the prior presentations really did not cannot defend the president on the facts shifts is still reeling from revelations in an upcoming book by John Bolton a former trump official in the book Baltin claims the president told him directly that security. At Ukraine was tied to Ukraine carrying being out investigations into trump's political rivals. That's according to The New York Times Senate Democrats and a few Republicans want Bolton to testify in the trial but it's unclear if they have the votes to make it happen Braxton Booker. NPR News the Capitol. President trump today unveiled his long-awaited Middle East. Peace Plan the proposal that was described described by Israeli prime minister. Benjamin Netanyahu has a vision for peace or is likely to continue to be opposed by Palestinians who contend the plan favors Israel and fall short of their goal of creation of a viable independent state. Trump's plan would call for the creation of a state of Palestine with its capital in east Jerusalem at the same time we would recognize Israeli sovereignty warranty over major settlements in the West Bank. The plan was created without input from Palestinian leaders who already rejected before it was unveiled at the White House with Israeli leader standing alongside the president the trump administration says it is disappointed. The United Kingdom has decided to use Chinese equipment. It's new high-speed Five G. Wireless Network as NPR's yours frank coordinators reports that say blow US officials who pushed against it. British officials said they would not ban equipment from the Chinese technology giant. Wow Way as recently last month top. US officials were in London urging against the move as part of a months-long campaign warning US allies that it could give China's communist government went back door access to their citizens most sensitive data Australia New Zealand and Japan block while away from their five G. Networks but other allies such as Canada has said they are open to allowing the company to build some less sensitive parts of those networks as London is expected to do but a senior administration nation officials said. There is no safe option for untrusted vendors to control any part of a five G. Network Franko or Donas. NPR News Washington device device maker. Apple waited until after the market closed. Release its latest quarterly earnings numbers showing the company posted record revenues and a return to profit growth apple assessments December quarter Revenue Vanu rose to ninety one point eight billion dollars net income to twenty two point two billion on Wall Street. The Dow is up one hundred and eighty seven points this is NPR motorcycle maker. Harley Davidson is out with its latest quarterly earnings with a drop in revenue again failing to meet Wall Street estimates as retail sales in the US continue to fall. Aw Harley has seen its revenues decline amid sluggish sales in the US as it's baby boomer customers age last year the volume of sales in the United States the company's biggest market it was at its lowest level in some sixteen years Milwaukee based company has been trying to woo customers was smaller bikes including battery powered motorcycles. Where we're so far At has failed to turn things around more cases of the corona virus or appearing in Europe. NPR's Eleanor Beardsley reports. France now has four infected patients and Germany has the first case of a person to person. Transmission media are reporting. The German national was infected by visiting Chinese work colleagues last week all all four people infected in France are Chinese nationals the latest cases and eighty year old tourist who is in critical condition in a Paris hospital. The other three patients are in isolation nation. But doctors say they're doing fine. France is chartering two planes to bring back French and European nationals. From Wuhan Doctors will be on board to examine passengers. Anyone anyone harboring the virus will not fly for France. Wuhan is a major doorway into China. Hundreds of French work at three Peugeot car factories there and Air France until L.. Now head daily flights to the city. Eleanor Beardsley. NPR News Paris. Since you bit more confident heading into the New Year than on profit business research group the Conference Board Says Consumer Confidence Index this month. Show to more than three percent or three point. Rise from the previous month I'm Jack Speer N._P._R.. News in Washington.

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The Pussy Centipede #56: An Imitation Of Bunnula (Featuring Linnea Quigley)!

The Pussy Centipede

15:54 min | 1 year ago

The Pussy Centipede #56: An Imitation Of Bunnula (Featuring Linnea Quigley)!

"It's pussy time in America. The time has gone for another episode of the Pussy Centipede. Can you dig it man. Can you dig it. Yeah Yeah Yeah how bad yeah yeah yeah how the puts welcome to the Pussy Centipede. I am Linnea Quigley in today's story at present you Banou up bunny age sixty nine vampire bunny waiting for a plus on rainy November night. Not a very imaginative type is Mr Peninsula not given Hindi Undo anxiety or fears of the most temporal White Passi like most vampire bunny. He has a genetic modification as a bunny with his for on his shoulders which is mentioned now because in just a moment furring Vanu La's shoulders will be put to attest circumstances rules to sensitive funniness in a chain of nightmares put his sanity into question for win balloon that entered at this particular bus station he left reality entered the realm of the C. Centipede moth ha ha. I am Boniello the bunny vampire fire. Can you please tell me the next to kinks thin is moon stinky preachers in run this ticket window. I already tell the tries that the king wasted bus was delayed. You couldn't be hassled me all night. Ma Hassle you all night. This is the first time I asked about the bus you poop faith stinker. Leave me alone you crazy Bernie and let me do my puzzles. Ma what I'm going to get myself and Egg Salad Sandwich Law. I am <hes> care. Will you do crazy bunny. Just stop asking me so many dem questions buck again already. You sure have a big appetite you for maybe you can eat my big appetite. What do you mean I haven't eaten since I've been in this crazy bus? Station are messing with ten minutes ago. Aggressive Ma was planning to order order. What kind of sit game playing with me are you in cahoots with that guy? The ticket counter Wa with you and a big collared Cape was just here if it wasn't you must have a twin brother Ma. Ha Ha totally creeping me out. I'll be back. I need to go splash the mater on my front face. You make a diarrhea again missed up on the I know cleaned Pupo Ma. What are you talking about you Mexican? How did you know I was coming in here to make a diarrhea pood- this is the first time I was in this bathroom Ma aw no you make that on toilet seats and clean anymore you clean your own boo boo took a number ego Ma what's happening and what is at the city bus station think they met me already me no care I leaving now so I don't smell your bunny poo poo? Do you see in the meert out there on the bench. There's a bunny that looks just like me Ma totally losing my mind me go now. You Crazy Bundy by what's happening. I feel like I'm losing my buddy mind. That buddy who is sitting on the bench had the same firs me and the same caller. I need to splash some water water on that feels better. Now I have to do aw that poop felt so good in my but is now empty. Maybe I will stop having these crazy hallucinations <hes> um. I don't see any other bunnies out here. I must be tired mind. If I sit here. Sir I might on Mighty Australia good die you Mr Australia Australia. What does the Fall Kingston? It seems as if it's been delayed it is bound myself might what business have Kingston. It might sound gay but I needed to change. I've been totally unhappy lately. Last week I saw this movie called the home at the end of the world and Colin Farrell payroll is like this kid who sees hippie brother died like he watched through glass door and it cuts thrown but right before the brother died he was fucking this girl in the brother saw him and was all freaked out and the older brother was like it's just love man and so Colin Farrell he was totally traumatized and then he was always loving or something and peaceful and then he lives in Kingston and makes pies. Everyone likes the pies so I thought I'd do that too. I have a friend Ning Tent Helga NSEN and he's going to let me crash his apartment until I get on my feet a night. It's a small weld. I moved here from Australia and West hoping to open my own pawn shop at ten San. My specialty is crocodile. Is I just hope things work out. <hes> I honestly feel like I've been losing my mind lately. You like a bed upset my if you don't mind me saying something frank you out. I don't know it's this station everyone who works. He's here kept saying the already met me like another vampire. Bunny was here asking them the same questions as me and then when I was in the bathroom the Mexican cleaning lady held the door open and I second I you can see a bunny sitting out here on the very same bench a buddy in a vampire kate and now may could just be a coincidence show your not only vampire bunny and the sites I know it's just like I've read these theories before ma about a mirror universe and there were doubles of everyone. They're like your mirror image it just imagine looking in the mirror in seeing your reflection sneer at you. Maybe come out in drag you into a mirror worlds and eat your her. That's right crappy. Might let's talk about something else. Thus to Kingston is here last. Call come on May we can sit together on the bus and talk more your fear that once you get a friend tat elegant house how that I teach you my recipe for Crocodile Pie sure but I'm too scared to hunt crocodiles and ten Hogan's in has an apartment Corbyn's not a house in Australia. We call pop and hazards. It's a quick of Levin in the big down very odd Tom. Is it true that all Australians Lick assholes Ted's chair. We don't have condoms so licking on us is the only way of we could have safe sex. It was started by the Aboriginals may eight well. There's the bus mate. Let's do you see that that were buddy on the buzz. He's smirking at me. What the Hell's going on May yeah okay? May somebody called Maha. Where am I what happened? It passed out. The bosses gone these paramedics here to examine you who is too vulnerable so I just want to ask you a few questions. Hey you're not a paramedic. You're a cop those works or these people at the bus station. Tell me you've been acting strangely talking talking about Gambler ponies and all doing diarrheas all over the bathroom. We have laws here upstate New York. Crazy people need to be in a mental hospital. I'm not crazy. I swear Ma please call my friend can't Hell Johnson and Kingston. He can vouch for me ochre. Can you please give me Mister Johnson's phone number. Yes it's fine five five Hell Johnson. Miniature Holdenson Mr Ken Goldensohn. Yes our <unk> Houghton said who may I ask is calling more name is officer Terry. I am here with your friend a Mr Bangalore he told unless you could vote for you or whatever is this a joke. Mr Bungalow is here with me now. Could you put him on the phone. Yes hold on a minute law. Aw who are you Mr Hall. All there is the bus station who claims that he is you. We think he is crazy. Hm he sounds crazy all speed to him. Okra hold on crazy. Mr Bony would like to speak with you. Aw that makes no sense. I am Bunyala. Give me the phone hello of oil. No I am bunny law new all aw I am from evil dimension. I have replaced you goodbye. No Ma No. We're teaching you to the hospital Mr through bony will you'll be safe there. There will be a noise four bedroom waiting for you know help me. Maybe homey no I'm sorry night. You need help. Take having itself aw that bunny shirt was nutcase. He wasn't up bad guy mate. Just a little lost unhappy gets a healthy needs kids. Can you tell me when the next to Kingston is not for two more hours if you'd like to lay down on the bench inside the station feel free. Thanks may hey. Where's my breath guys that man win over there he has it? He stole it. I better go catch him mate. Hey you may with my briefcase. You gotTA stop running no able on the I.. 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Birthing Of The Soul

Let's Talk Dementia

16:22 min | 2 years ago

Birthing Of The Soul

"Senior life journeys presents Carol hal's. Let's talk dementia. A podcast designed to help care givers. Find knowledge power hope and smiles in their dementia caregiving journey. Welcome to let's talk dementia. Here is your host bestselling author Carol Hal. Welcome to let's talk dementia. I am here. How will your host is always an honor to have you join us as we talk about dementia, dementia care, giving and the processes that follow and especially my world right now? When I am right in the middle of the death experience the passing experience for my mama. I would like to thank our host national association of veterans families, you can reach them at eight hundred three five to, to nine one nine and their website is WWW dot in a the F dot O. R G Naveh offers veterans assistance in obtaining well-deserved service connected disability in their quick to refer veterans to other organizations that can they could benefit from also it's pretty neat. Tell them Carol sent you at eight hundred three five to, to nine one nine. If you've been following our show for awhile, you know that our company. Let's talk dementia. With started ten years ago, because my mama VERA in her diagnosis of Alzheimer's. Mama was diagnosed in August of two thousand six so she's a long ways enter this journey as I record this today. It has made twenty six two thousand nineteen mama has exceeded the lifespan average lifespan for someone with Alzheimer's in she has done it beautifully. And with a lot of grace, and I kidded her that many times that her new name change to hi. My name is VERA, I have Alzheimer's. She's told everybody she wasn't shy about it at all. And it did open up doors of opportunity for other folks to experience life through. My is, is they also were kinder to her because they knew that's what she was dealing with was also good for me because then I didn't have to beat them up for not being good, demo-, mama. You know, you gotta be good to my mama. We're not gonna take lists in that, right? We stand up for those votes, who are traveling this journey an for the caregivers in that why this podcast. It's is on the air, it's for you, because I know that what you're traveling, what you're dealing with is unique. Your journey is different from everybody else's Mijoni is different from yours. But I think we can learn from each other in. That's what I wanna do is to bring knowledge, power hope and smiles into your world. Well mama is now about eighteen days of having gone without food on not abide in eighteen days. She is drinking less and less. Each day. I am recording this at about eight o'clock at night in as of this calendar day, momma might have consumed six ounces for answers somewhere around there. Just not much so her body is slowly slowly slowly going away. And. There are times looking at her as painful, and then there's times I just see such beauty in the process of what she's going through. And I think this process process that she's going to giving us so much time to say to her, those things we wanna say so that when she's ready to go, we can let her go with peace, and I'm at that point, I'm ready for moment to go. I'm ready for her to go to heaven and to celebrate and have a fully functioning brain how cool is that I mentioned on the Facebook show that I do Monday through Thursday. Mornings at eight fifteen you can find it by just go into my page, Carol Howe or let dementia or YouTube. It's all their YouTube under. Let's talk mentioned. But I mentioned last week that I was going to be talking about the similarities between birth think and dying talk to you about today in the process. One of my friends, miss Jean Lee with AL Z authors dot com. Check it out. It's a whole. Host books about Alzheimer's in Alzheimer's care giving in minor there. She wrote me and said that someone had told her the for are used with her the phrase, birthing of the soul now that just feels better. May I don't like saying the word dying. You don't think dying, I think trees dying and flowers dying and darkness and falling apart. And that's not what I think about, when I think about my mom, you seem a moment is not really dying. Her body is, but who in what mommy is hurt essence, her being her, so her spirit are so very much, not dying. They are very, very busy birthing themselves to have in the birthing of the soul that changing from death into life where we go from what we understand in what we see in. We can touch to that state of being that we don't understand. That we can't see that we can't touch, but is so very real in so beautiful in so wonderful. And why would I not want my mom debate there? She is struggling, and she has some pain, not a lot, but she has nothing really going on in her world. Why would I want her to stay like that instead of going to heaven to see her anchor her master that she has lived her life, for awhile won't that for her the birthing of the so like at will when we think about the birthing process for baby? It always brings a lot of excitement in on wonder and I'll just not knowing what the future holds in is just so exciting. And you just can't wait for that belly to Pajau, John, you begin to see the visible signs of this new life. That's going on. You have all the unknowns really of how it all happens. Yeah. We understand what caused the pregnancy, you know, we can redesign booking understand that. But we don't understand what causes that egg. And sperm to unite. We don't understand what causes those sales to divide multiply and to form into human being way. Don't understand that. Well, it links, Carol doesn't, but unknown it happens. And I'm excited about that in so are all other people that have babies on the way the unknowns though, of what the future will be for the new parents in the new baby. That's part of their experienced to while will the pregnancy bay like what will the birthing process be like, what will life be like his parents when the dying process we experienced similar things we have excitement and all in wonder over Vanu, lie that this person is going to be experiencing when they do pass from death into live. Yeah. We have sadness. We I've had a lot of it lately. But in that process for those who call themselves Christians who are children of God. We have that excitement for the future, but we have. The unknowns of how it will all happen in this situation to just as in the birth of a baby. We don't know how is that. The individuals soul leaves the body, you know, we hear stories about people who have had near death experiences or in talked about seeing angels and angels. Coming in. Scooping them up or whatever you're a lot of stories. I've not had one can't batch for any of them, but the unknowns of how we lead this body still are mystical tomat-, but we know it happens. And as a believer in the almighty in the give rebel good perfect gifts. I know that, that so leaves in his India's Rinat reunited with the Lord have that happens gotten a clued, but I'm excited about it, and the unknowns of what the future will be for the parents in the baby or part of the experience in the unknowns for that person who's. Leaving family behind unknowns for that family are part of the death experience. A lot of unknowns, you know, while giving birth in that process, the husband or the family member, whomever is with that person is, they're cheering them on, and tell them, they're, they're doing it. Good job in helping them to breathe into pant and all that good stuff. They learned in laws, which didn't work for me. One bit, I was happy to have a little shot of epidurals. I was no good at that. But some of you guys were excellent at it, right? In someone. That was their offering sips of water in wiping. Your braille and cheering you on your having a baby. You're doing so good. Keep up the good work. We known the death process is similar, we want our families in our friends there beside us in and you get to the point like my mom is where I'm swabbing her mouth in dropping Food, Lion. Orange soda into her mouth using straw, because she's not real good at sucking it anymore. I'm telling her she's doing. Good job mama. You can go to heaven. We're going to take care of everything there in. It's so wonderful beautiful air. You're gonna enjoy it. I have to stop right here until you that last week while who knows what day it is. My days are very confused. But one day in the recent past my mom was laying in her bed, and she'd been there or she's been in the bid all these days for about eighteen days now, but that particular day she had not moved much hadn't said much, and just really not much of anything going on. I was sitting in the chair in the corner. Got nice and relaxed. And every time I moved from the side of her bed to the chairman corner with my book in Madrid in a blanket, you know, Ma pillow and got situated that's when she would call a night for dying time. The little woman had figured out, so I got out comfy in. She goes. Oh, what is going on in? I get up and throw everything floor go over, and I put my arms on my momma shoulders backup one mama. It is so beautiful, and I said, tell me what do you sing? She said. Oh, I'm going to love it here. That's what she saying, so cool. So that, that process that we go through. There are moments of joy and excitement in it for us. The person who is passing and for the loved ones while the body changes in pregnancy. We know this for sure Araya's, I said earlier, we look forward to win that body that belly starts Putin out in weakened. See visible signs that new life is beginning. Can't wait for that happened in that belly go back flat again to, you know, we just can't make people have began. We, we see the body change in a lot of ways as it prepares for. That giving of birth that new life. The female body has to go through a lie. Well in the body of someone who is dying that change happens to there are a lot of changes that take place. The individual will see their extremities being less useful to them. They can't use them as well. I can tell you at this present time. Mom really is only moving her right arm did say your mover left-hand yesterday's first time. I've seen that in a while she can't move her legs anymore, and her skin is changing. She's getting some bedsores. And that's oh, I hate that part of it. They make me cringe to look at him. Her color is changing her. Her mouth is changing so much so that she took her dentures out on her own, when we arrived yesterday, she taking her dentures out. So the, the body changes in both ways breathing changes. You know, when you're giving birth pains of a birth the birth pains, we handle those with that short bursts of breathing to help control the pain in deep inhales, and periods of holding the breath in pushing. And then after it's all over with the breathing returns to normal in the dying process. The breathing changes also we see periods of very shallow. Breathing are folks start breathing from their belly rather than their chest in. It's never date breath, then all of a sudden, they hold their breath. And, and then there's a big inhalation and then back to that pattern another similarity between the two processes is with birthweight time contractions. How? Long that contraction last we've got the clock on it. And it's been three minutes since you had one maybe we should go to the hospital in the dying process. We time the intervals in between the breasts. How long it's been since our loved one has breathed way watch that chest watch it go up and down for some people. The birthing process is slow in for some people it moves quickly and for some people, the dying process is slow likeness for mama in for some people. It goes quickly. There are so many similarities between the two and there's a lot more. We could talk about, but those were just a few that are on my mind. It kind of helps me to, to think about what my mom is going through into put it in light of the good side of each of those things that she's experiencing. I am so thankful that she's peaceful, and has had very little pain in that she is she doing. Thing she's doing slow as all get out. Let me tell you, but mama has for the last how many ever years, not minded being the center of attention and believe me, Yushi. She is that right now. But I am looking forward to my mama. Winging your way to heaven, finding her wrist her piece and that life with no pain, or discomfort with everything fully working walking all over God's heaven. Now, telling you, she's going to do it in high heel boots. You just wait and see she'll do high heel boots. She'll be the only one being able to do, but she'll be will do it. I want to thank our sponsors, national association of veterans and families. And you can reach him at eight hundred three five to, to nine one nine in their website is WWW dot. N. A V, F dot O. R J, tell them Carol sent you. Always like to have a little funny for you. I have a friend, Mr James Watkins, it does a cartoon called hope and humor, and you can find him on Facebook and clicked on this pitcher. But alas it won't pop up here there it goes. And he's got a picture of the icon that you can use for poop yono that icon. In the, the cartoon says what that's not Hershey kiss. 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Episode 113  Platform Specialist Jason Resnick

The 6 Figure Developer Podcast

35:01 min | 1 year ago

Episode 113 Platform Specialist Jason Resnick

"Came has small niche design firms running the gamut of technology types of companies types of businesses and basically integrations a lot of integrations and so that's the bread and butter the business now when my son was born who's two and a half now put bodies into startups to build their platforms and what that allowed me to do was taste a plethora and I've been building my own business ever since helping establish ECOMMERCE businesses get more customers creep repeat customers and in my whole love of the Internet rather and so professionally I worked for fortune fifty companies as well I realized my dream is my dream was to be able to be home see first steps here first words and essentially at that point Baba's doing service work there so basically the better part of fifteen years is doing client services building applications will then custom features but I knew what I wanted and in twenty ten did it again and left the design world the design agency world and about eighteen months into that net was two thousand two ish Eighteen months into that and I had to go get another job because I didn't know Vanu coming into my businesses all is it's what I've focused in on for nine plus years at this point in time even before that when I was working fulltime the design worker the development work yes so for me the services part of my business is the bread and butter that's what most of the maybe some your backstory how you got started absolutely so I'm a web developer by heart entry I grew up in the SCHOL development clean code career advancement and more I'm John Calloway I'm Clayton Haunt Nash. This week we have Jason Resnick the things my skill set was great being a developer is just the client management stuff sales and marketing contracts and all that stuff I just I didn't have to worry about that a bill rating fans of their own brand so then these days do you end up finding that most of your time is spent sort of evenly on building that business in doing thanks for having me I'm super excited to be so before we get started on sort of the meat of things would would you just kind of introduce yourself a little bit and what I found was a sweet spot for me and I worked for a consulting firm that basically I've cut my economics class to build websites so not that I'm suggesting people do those sort of things but that's how I came to be of technology all in a very short time period when that whole thing collapsed in ourself decided to strike out on my own because that's what I always wanted to do anyway ahead that like I could potentially help other people do the same thing I wanted more and more people to be able to realize that moment and that wasn't expected is not Jason is a family guy worked from home dad host of the live in the feast podcast and helps developers and designers specialized their business by building recurring revenue to live their life. Welcome Jess grew up in my career in mid to late nineties so right at the dawn of the Internet age if you will and ups and things of that nature because what I focused in on for my services were obviously ECOMMERCE businesses but it was specifically in time was like hey I did it right like this is what I set out to do and so it was then there was like this like mostly switched I would often hammers tied to the subscriptions plugin that's what I became known for in that small space there and so people will like how you charging doing backups and Securities Hanson such actually helping their business strategizing implementing things and so it was that was the advent of me the news good over some of those hurdles that I had encountered than for me that's the wing of the day so I have very regimented time management I thought I would just you know I'm fine in the code like I'm just I'm cool with that and so as an introvert or introverted tendencies if you will I didn't WanNa do mentoring coaching or build a community or any of that sort of stuff but I was asked a lot at conferences meter what you charging per month I mean you charging to three thousand dollars a month were WBZ curve in some of these other things are sub one hundred dollars and I said well not them not just excessively from a typical nine to five job into working for yourself working on your own working out of the house when my son was born I was already working redoing and that's where I'm going to always stay and I feel that that helps me become a better coach teacher and community member to those being fulltime work and I was basically waking up at six o'clock to go into the full-time job come home at four thirty five o'clock have dinner start work at six being able to say hey maybe there's a way in which I can help people more like if I can do it anybody can do it that's kind of how I look at it and if I can help other developers bat are looking to learn how to run a proper business what was that transition like around the time that your son was born how did you make that transition to be able to manage both sides because it's very different but you know the the services side I'm never going to get away from it's what I enjoy the fuel but honestly the start of that year in January I quit in August I basically said by my birthday which was I basically flip the script by drop the full-time thing I'll just make everything during the daytime And so that that was my experience but at that came in August and month earlier than I expected or targeted for and it was just like hey this is the right time to do this I had client in September I want to leave I want to start my own thing because at that point in time I was basically burning the candle at both ends I had a client roster I was doing it's into my own business at that point I wish I could say there was like some like hey I just up and quit or sort of like magical moment since and I learned a lot from my first time to try to do it myself just by having a lot of conversations with people that are normally but you can be as close to it as possible building up that client roster and having that work that can be you for my own business that was two and a half years ago twenty ten that's when I'm in August two thousand ten is when I left the fulltime moral sustain you when you decide to to make that leap into the self employment or working for yourself what would you say that that's advisable that that's a really good idea I am or never sorta thing for me and the fact that I saw like I learned from my previous mistakes doing this and I saw that this is this makes sense there is a huge fear of like this is okay for like you know for the foreseeable future couple months but what is is my only responsibility at the time to like I didn't have a family at that point in time I didn't have a wife I didn't have a mortgage or any of those things so it was like kind of like this it's and eight off and let's go and unlike appreciate and admire you for doing that it's just not my nature to do that being that I live in New York and had to pay rent but wouldn't have like sales and marketing those kind of people but learning I don't know I was like this is the time you never be one hundred percent ready for that shift look like after that like having a regular paycheck every other week deposited in the bank account not having to worry about it you know is nice but for me we're gonNA wait until three kg a couple hours and do it all over again I knew for me I just my comfort level I wanted to make sure that at least to have that client roster because I would expect that there's a certain amount of fear involved in in making the leap from the steady paycheck into of human history that allows us to be the do these things at this point in time so why not take advantage of it what were some of the biggest lessons that you learned there were a lot of lessons was trying to build up a sales pipeline when we're in code myself included heads what I was doing was working to be able to get me new clients get me past clients to become clients again those sorts of things and so it was like okay being your own boss absolutely I mean for me my experience it's I needed to do it that way there are other people that are like I'm pulling the months later like this lag behind that that whole leaves right so what I learned was I tried everything like just is permission about it you know and that's kind of how my attitude was was really like hey I can there's this time that were in in the the period after the first first time that you had to stop stop doing this and he said okay these are the big takeaways that I'm going to implement the next time washing how people do sales and build up you know sales cues pipelines in all these other things but what I found was while that was good for that what I wound up doing was essentially building out these scripts that would just ping the ether if you will twitter craigslist a whole bunch of other things go knocking on doors that's not me so how can I be a little bit more smart about my marketing And one of the things that I built as and for certain key words that I knew that were ads or questions or some sort of community outreach eh it was more than that I knew I wanted that time freedom and flexibility I wanted to be able to just take off on a random Tuesday afternoon because it was nice out and I was an adult and I didn't want to have damn it wasn't really my nature so how did I how could I potentially do this like I'm not GonNa have a call list just call people on the phone that's not me lot of times they allowed me to jump I into the conversation I noticed when I was looking at craigslist for a lot of this stuff there were big brands now I can help that allows me to be heads down focused on the things that I have to do manually but allows me to keep that pipeline just looking at at some of your history as a wordpress developer and custom php and Ruby on rails and Java and the whole gamut was there any to these things because basically gave me a log of his tweet here's a craigslist ad these things and also allowed me to jump into the middle of conversation on craigslist and they were post these jobs but then it would like come down like a day or two later and I would notice that only because by the time I got developers you know one of my things is a five to do something twice the same way I'm going to try to figure out how to scripted or automated or something right so that somebody was doing that I could help answer and so I would get pinged on my phone at that time and I would just sit at night on the couch and MHM were really big fans of theirs and the work that they're doing especially Jonathan's dishing hourly podcast and ideas behind all of that in line open if you will and we were trading emails before the show and looks like your your friends of of some of our guests Laura Elizabeth and Jonathan Stark the jobs for Cannon Gander Mountain PG Sony and so forth and so that's sales I call it my sales bought is really just going out there picking basically it just feeds me mentions of certain brands like convert dripping things of that nature and we'll commerce in all these other brands that I six customer p work for another three months and then go back to ruby on rails what I found was about two years much like the first go around myself I just spent hours a night because I was sleeping at that point in time it was just so stressed out with everything hours night literally in my apartment sitting on is not knowing that either one of us at the time but a month after I propose to her I said terror was gonNA leave go back and get a full time job because down maybe for a few weeks at a time you're not promoting yourself you're not out there making connections and stuff but that time doesn't hit you until point in time when you were being more of a generalist and then look to to niche down in become a specialist is was that the key to to your success things and so I always had the constant relearn everything it was actually my now wife then fiancee who kind of gave me the kick in the butt to specialize my business a lot of projects and things of that nature where I was just focused and at that point in time I wasn't even really in the wordpress space at all essentially chasing my tail had this gap between tax tax six nine months their versions of his new methods it was new ways in which to do that about the marries just told me not to get a job like okay so I had to figure out what it was I basically analyze my business soup to nuts I analyze I was like hitting this wall and I was like maybe this just isn't for me I'm like this is not I don't understand getting burned out and what I found was that I was an industry is that I enjoyed working with and then the opposite of that and that was my red flags list essentially and those were the people that I had to say absolutely in two thousand ten when I left the fulltime world I was very much a generalist I would work on rails projects for three months Java projects what I found that what I was doing there was specialized in my business because distilled from all of that was this list of characteristics of people and projects they could go into it on a Tuesday and then come in the following two Wednesdays after that they would still be able to understand things and just paying twitter and now it alerts me and my chat and have a slack channel sales team and it's just that screwed I just don't think that this works and she threw me for a loop because she's the one that's Iraq she wants to predictability and stability and all that stuff not even if they were willing to pay me that was the tipping point around two thousand twelve that really grew the business because I was saying not hello and welcome to the six bigger developer podcast the podcast where we talk about new and exciting technologies flex applications or responses to their Ed and then they just pull it out it'd be like okay we got fifty or one hundred or one hundred fifty these things that's enough for now we'll figure out somebody what what my clients wanted was a way to manage their stores in their websites where they burnt in it every single day dog it was a not found what's going on like I see it here so it got me a little interested in seeing what happened will I found out was that they would just get an in on the couch with a notebook just taking a look at my client roster the projects that I was working on what I liked what I didn't like the people that I was working with all of these things and so with that why lab me to do was to see it come up I jump in their bly B. on the top of the stack if you will and I suppose to do this stuff so how can I expect my clients to do this right and so you know wordpress was a was a simple platform where I could deliver this thing and the rolling my own cms is right in Ruby whatever platform is writing in at the time and sometimes I struggled going back issues like but that's not what you want and I know that so I know that you know that in we'll figure it out and I was like wait who won him he's not look so different with new updates in Latin all this other stuff so I was I was just looking at it from the client's perspective of what I can deliver was it as cool as we're now but you know it is what it is right and so for me it was matter of delivering the solution clients were asking for and that one even better place whether there is with me or referral or some information that they didn't have beforehand and that allows me to then say no it's just a matter of identifying if we can work together one of the things that it was helpful for me in the beginning boys putting literally on sales calls ends than me to go with right and so that's how I come to is anybody that comes into my desk if you will I just say I want them to becoming a specialist or specializing especially businesses Specific leaving you talked about how you had to come up with these lists of people a lot of it is what problems right because if you can if you

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