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Iran Abruptly Raises Fuel Prices, and Protests Erupt
"Today and indeed dot com slash marketplace that's indeed dot com slash marketplace Iran blocks nearly all Internet access as anti-government the government protests erupt across the country live from London. This is the marketplace morning report from the BBC World Service. I'm Lisa Vantera Elliot. Good morning now. Hundreds of people people have been detained in Tehran. For taking to the streets of with the rising cost of living the unrest broke out after the government unexpectedly tripled fuel prices module off Shas from the BBC's Persian service. We've had protests for the past four days in Yvonne. We know that has been a number of death. The demonstrations this time I'm compared to two years ago. It was really widespread more than hundred cities very involved in the demonstrations but even after the fuel price price increase. Iran still has some of the world's lowest gasoline prices. Why are people so angry? The thing is we're talking about a country that has inflation of about forty percent and unemployment of about fifteen percent and a large number of young people are graduated from the university and cannot not find jobs and that is the direct result of US sanctions which were reimposed last year by President. Donald Trump. Now now don't forget that Iran's main revenue is coming from oil and they're finding it really hard so they're trying to somehow increase the taxes they're trying to raise fuel prices and people are already under so much pressure will BBC. Persian has access to every retail Iranians. And we know that Iran is in a deep recession which could become even deeper. So how are people coping. People are finding it very difficult difficult financially. They are in dark situation and they don't see anything bright ahead of them. Because with what the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei said Iranian authorities seem to be very adamant to stick to the
Raiders' Burfict suspended for rest of season
"Let's move to Indianapolis. We're vont is perfect was up to his old tricks yesterday getting from the raiders win over the coals for a dirty already hit on tight end Jack Doyle for blew kisses to the fans on his way out but he also just kissed the whole season goodbye with the NFL suspending the controversial linebacker actor for the rest of the year explaining the perfect history of rules violations was a factor in the decision question here is should Baez Bursik pick be allowed to play in the NFL again at all. Oh yeah absolutely this is just the next step in terms of penalty and severity of pounding when you you talk about this so season long who five million dollars basically just burned up again on top of the four point. Two million dollars in fines and loss is game checks. He's already accrued over his career this so yeah he deserves another chance you know part of the opportunity that it comes from penalty is the redemption so you gotta give them that fell. XFL No no no not yet twenty nine NFL why I look this takes us back. Let's not get too political denying these strikes law remember that you how does that look in history. Now I get it yes. There's the league common called the XFL for X. NFL players early in the morning I was it's like I watched a highlight video of his collection of hits and then I thought they had problems with this dude at Arizona state over dirty hit yeah. XFL Noman Trust your gut. Your intuition is six million times faster than cognitive dot and you know what that means. Whatever you felt I is what you should have went with those star watching it over and over again and talking yourself into a different mindset. XFL I'm wit coming back next year. People are resting in the hall of fame that made their careers off of hitting the way Vantera perfect hits so the reality and that's truth. That's not up for debate. You can you know the NFL chains changes in it evolves but the reality of it is is that now we're looking at what what we talked about and discussed before with this crisis is the is there officials crisis this is there a player safety crisis and this is yes screams yes because the reality of it is. Is that a targeting hit yes but make me play. Agai- they can agree just enough to say he shouldn't play again. I don't I disagree with that. He should be able to play a game salute after he spent a year to the XFL proving. He knows how to play football the ball. I say bringing back the been fined for for July updates a lot. We have a number on that because I know it's a lot because this isn't the first time we've talked about these issues shoes in Arizona State. He's had a history of this throughout his career and being an offensive player. Obviously has a team. I see why you signed A. I think how what does it take. I have kids and so I can tell my child to keep they keep doing the same thing over and over and over again but they're learning by the time they get older. I would expect for them to stop doing this Bontes burfoot. He has not learned. I'm saying look you're going to jeopardize people. You hidden man in the top of his head. Who Miss Could Win got even worse. Maybe cracks his neck naked. Guy Can't play anymore. You're not learning then. You're blowing kisses on top of it after you've been through all that much trouble. I say I hate to say this but obviously you need a little break. Take not more than just this year. You're not learning told me thirteen suspense. That's it. That's it that's thirteen. You've got to me got taken away. His the thirteenth strikes law. I always I'm always I've always been a perfect apologised. I love the way he plays I love his passion. If you know the guys he's an awesome young man. I just just I get it and I totally agree with where you're coming from. What you're saying Oh when I said it wasn't I just think I just think that it is truly rooted and the players safety crisis that the NFL we know that deal with what's not in it for him. this is what makes them and this was going to break. Kim Is the fact that he knows he has limited physical skills. So what he's always done is make up for that the curse of the gifted in a sense of he knows he's not so gifted so he's going to go out there and try me knows exactly knows what how physical here's smash everything about this from launching lean to the duck head am basically trying to spear somebody. They've been trying to tell this do for six years. Cut that out. God is not allow. He refuses to accept that and whatever it's rooted in. They got rules that up to prevent it. He won't follow follow him. I get it I've talked to people that swear by volunteers perfect off the field and on the field he was a captain this year. No I get it but people wearing off all to fear those of us did watch him on the feels like hey man and I'm defended him in the past but this is a bridge too far. Let me ask you this. Why didn't the NFL suspended for life. That's an option. Why not probably be because they plan on him? Perhaps returning to the NFL fail but I'm the question where I wouldn't do you wouldn't do. I wouldn't let this do go playing Vince McMahon's Lee and show me some proof before I ever allowed you back back in the NFL because I'm GonNa tell you this man. I'm GonNa tell you this what the NFL has to be worried about. Let's say let him back in and he does paralyzed by the next time they're going to be involved in the lawsuit that comes to that's true. You seen this guy thirteen times. You've seen Antonio Brown. All kinds ads guys and you kept let me back in the league the lease hands maybe tied this this remained the suspension made this be the first step the bigger the bigger or conversation is you have to do this and you have to set the standard in the bar so nobody else decides to slip back. That's why he needs to go with that. But now you agree when I once told me said I totally understand y'all's
"vantera" Discussed on Yes, Girl!
"Well, the holiday season. Inbetween the holidays into new year. Yes, it is. Knitting. Knitting nursing that Malak. Yeah. This be a little platform knitting thing. This is the best time of year, though. Don't you think it is? I actually love this time of year because shout out to me. It's my birthday season. Kappa corn shut out all the Capricorn say Charlie pan, who's not here. Who's having a best life in Phoenix? Hello. Hello. Charlie. She's always like Virgo season. But it's Catholic season. I mean, I want to say how aquarians next and we are very low key. You know, you don't ever hear anyone talking about you, really don't. And yet we kind of run the world. Hello, Oprah Hulo. Mom, my Angelo. Hello. Angela davis. You know? Okay. I'll got here in the world. And my big mama is an Aquarius. Okay. So I'll give you that. But he's turning hundreds. She turned a hundred shutout. Big, mama. Wow. That's a whole nother. A whole nother pockets. I should get her own here. She gives recipe. Okay. And just recipe for life true. But I'll she gonna keep saying that soon be Andre. I'm a hundred years old soon. Be hundred one I love big chat. Big mama any who this year? Well, I let's get into who's on our. Yes. I'm sure if I'm Jay. As how we're going to say his name throughout the interview. Gesture vantera roads is here. Little real Harry's. Here they co star in the Netflix film bird box. Which is a scary shit movie. Watch it. I'm sorry. It's actually really good a long story short, and I explained to podcast, but basically this something takes over the world where you you see only your your inner demons, and we see them it makes you commit suicide. So basically the only way to avert this is to literally blindfold yourself. So these people get together in a house and try to just survive until they figure things out man, it's swoop. 'cause the thing is you don't know what you're seeing. Yeah. So yeah. But it's intense is Netflix, Sandra, Bullock who Travolta kept calling sandy. So now, we know we're gonna call her sandy we should've asked him about her black baby. Yes. I was thinking about that must be like nine ten by now. Beautiful boy. Yeah. Speaking of beautiful boy, can you name again unsure von to who. That was that was nice to look at y'all. That was nice to look at. Talented talented to of course, indeed chocolates, Allen. Okay. Speaking of talent, this has been quite a year such a year for black women. And we have a really I mean, I think every year is good for us. But this year was just really impactful in that, you know, just more visible to the world. But had you wanna ask you, Cory? What were your favorite black woman moments of twenty teen? Will I wanted to? I'm an editor. So I like to think about trilogy. Okay. So I have three Bs that is beyond say, okay. 'cause we gave beach Ella this year. Yes. And what I love about each other. It was just the obvious things. I mean, she really brought to life HP. See you culture with her halftime show. Beautiful beautiful. I'm still playing music from that show. I love everybody man is now I only thing that song. I wanna do beyond say dance. Exactly have those horns on it. The original. Have those horns like that? So rebirth brass brand all of it all of it. But I also got my mother at before him to watch it, and we stayed up in what I was trying to wake Jillian, but she was like, I'm asleep 'cause eight and wanna go to bid, but just how this no footage of anywhere you, right? Yes. Gone. The ANSI was like. Nope. Once in a lifetime only twenty eight teen y'all. Yeah. Okay. My other be is Black Panther. I can't believe backpack. The came out this, and it took a long it's been a long year..
"vantera" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Shut up the life opinions and unexpected adventures of an NFL outlier. Do you still have a beef with anybody from when you play beef? Is there a carryover if you see somebody? It's like if something said or like, it could be go to no, you know, me. I'm fun loving, man. I was wanted to wear guys in the league, I laughed before every game like dirty to you. The entire different Broncos office alive. Lincoln. Kennedy wasn't dirty. But I thought it was unfair to he played the position. I had the see sixty seventy times on Sundays. His his arms is his biceps were like hamstrings, and it was like he I was a man, and he was a mammo. What the hell are you doing here? And this is the funniest part about football. We only focus in on the injuries. And oh my God. He's out there. He got laid out. Whatever may be. It's the second six and they get to yards and we get up in nine of back in the huddle and his third in four. No one knows that he just dislocated my finger. No one knows that. He just punched me so hard that. I actually thought about vantera Davis and said, this is my moment, you're gonna quit moment right here between the huddle, I could get out of here. But the cameras on. I mean, there's so many moments in football because for you to exercise wheel to be greater and bigger than yourself. There's a lot of moments. You're like are you going to do there's a lot of moments of truth where if I don't do this? I could tap out right now and football with challenge you to never tap out. And I think that's the beauty of it. But people never talk about the conversation. You have with yourself about am I going to run through that next wall? What's the best story of all your broke? Fingers. Do you have a.
"vantera" Discussed on Pardon My Take
"Well, now in a practical sense, you've obviously been in tunnel rooms. Leon said, he's gonna come back after the bye week. Do you think that it's going to be everyone's going to embrace them and be like, hey, look, this guy can help us win football games, or do you think there's going to be some simmering resentment and some people. These got a win back in that locker room. I'm, it should be. He should be working with open arms to be honest that that'd be like as teammates. I, I mean, I, I don't know how go out. 'cause I mean, obviously they had may speak out, but I can only speak from my perspective from my perspective, it's like if this cat can help us win, if this cat, when you hear like this ball, when you hear hear when you be when you're here, I just don't see how you can look at. Even though I, I don't think what he's doing is most advertisers for his his pocket, his image of Brad, whatever the case may be. Even if that was my position that would not affect how I do my job and I go about my day in locker room so that you have to separate personal stuff from business stuff. So it's like we have picking side, I think, business wanna one. Did you get a chance to listen to Tony dungee and Rodney Harrison address the Earl Thomas situation. When he broke his leg on Sunday and then got carted off and looked like he was. He was flipping off the Seahawks sideline. Did you hear what they said? Not him do that, but I didn't hear what they say. Tony was basically like going at Thomas a little bit and saying that, let's see, here's a quote. I love Thomas has a person as a player, but it's clear because it was contract. He didn't wanna be there. We're all over vantera Davis in buffalo when he quit at halftime. If you don't wanna be there, you shouldn't play. Yeah, disagree with that. I, what I saw was was a guy that was pissed off because he was trying to do the right thing, but he was he was like the opposite of what lady on bells doing and he did get guilted by, you know, some of his teammates to to come back into the locker room, come back onto the team ended up actually paying the price for it. And so like I, I don't have a problem with him being frustrated about is you're gonna wish it in flip off peak, Carol, whatever, and a couple of years he might, he might not. But I feel like Earl was trying to do the right thing, but he did let that teammate peer pressure gets on. Yeah, I don't know how to present about his situation is contract situation, but I know that I mean, kind of like what I say, it's it's directly analogous to the navy bell situation like you damned. If you do damned, if you don't. You know what I mean? And from from either standing and I, I don't know. I guess they that they were kinda ward each other anyway, like the the relationship wasn't that good, but that I mean, that's, that's, that's the drawback, right? So you go in there, try to be a good teammate and you're still not in good standing with the front office or you sit out, you're not good at standing with office with the front office. So it's like the the issue is we're seeing this as like it's like some like some kids sport and I and that's that's. I think that's the problem. I think that's part of the draw, but that's the issue right now. We're having like as as in the macro is like when looking at this football thing, this small sport, but it's a business with businessmen making business decisions and and and sometimes in business you can, you can. Do things you're not a hundred percent proud of, but you have to take care of yourself. And I think that's what we're saying is just a lot of that..
"vantera" Discussed on Only A Game
"They're going to be the ones who miss out. On promotions, they're going to be the ones who miss out on some a lot of the social elements that enhance your career. This is dangerous stuff. I agree with that. It's kind of the old you know on the golf course or in the bar talking. Those are the places that women have always wanted to be to be able to get the promotions to make the connections, and and now there's going to be a backlash to that. There's no doubt it's something we all have to guard against. It's absurd, but we have to. It's also worth noting that this kind of male victimization complex. I mean, it goes back as far as the women's liberation movement in the nineteen sixties and seventies these aren't new ideas. I think what's different right now is that women are actually organizing themselves and because of social media, they're able to attain some victories and shed light for a national audience. Exactly. Here's the deal guys, you know what you're doing. Let's not make it seem like we're under threat. We're not. Let's go to football, Dave. Your turn. Now, recent years have seen. Spate of early retirements from the NFL if people who've chosen to walk away from pro football instead of limp and this past weekend, however, early retirement was taken to a whole other level as Buffalo Bills cornerback vantera Davis retired at halftime. He got dressed in street clothes during halftime, and dipped. He left the stadium immediately. The condemnation started flying across the football world and typical was his teammate, Rafael Bush who said after the game, I think I did lose a little respect for him as a man. Now, manhood in the NFL is defined by a willingness to get hurt and hurt others. Even if your heart isn't in it, it took a particular kind of courage for Davis to walk away when he did. I think we need to remind ourselves that this isn't gladiatorial combat and these aren't warriors. This is a business as Davis said in his statement. I shouldn't be out there anymore, and that's all anyone should need to hear. Well, I would agree that you don't. Want him on the field. If he doesn't want to be there, you know it's dangerous for everyone involved. I kind of feel that he owed his teammates an explanation. I feel that walk out in the middle of a game on a bad team that's being humiliated. Do you think he was a little unprofessional? I would call it Varian professional? Yeah. And and I think a lot of us would walk out after a half football. I still think you owe it to your teammates to tell them how you feel incident just dashing out the door. You're, I think the part that got me was the getting dressed in walking out of the building, and I agree with you, Dave on this that the entire code the manhood code, the real man code. It took a hit and it needed to take a hit. Yeah. And I think that's the part of it that I, I find most interesting because so much of masculinity in our society is constructed, I would argue by the NFL or that there's no cultural force that I think we need to hold accountable more than the NFL and vantera Davis took that and basically turned it on its head and said, I'm going to accept. Criticism. I'm going to accept everybody who says, I'm not a real man, and he said, I'm going to take all of this for the simple reason that I want to be with my family, and I thought it was great. Like in a follow up interview, he was asked if he was upset by the response that he received, and he was basically like, I feel great. I'm not playing in the NFL anymore. You know an an use you saw with Chris Borland with the forty Niners. And I think one thing that we don't pay enough attention to because we focus on the glamour and because we focus on the money is how much this game hurts to play..
"vantera" Discussed on High Noon
"I feel like you mankind on Instagram mega worse rather than making a better every time. I think it's quite enough to begin to think about like in, yeah, he posts third, the last time you've made anything better threes up call. All right. I quote of the day. What do you want me to say? You'll care about my problems. Replied, Antonio Brown to a Steelers reporter after asking if he had any lingering physical issues, I suppose of how quote grateful he is to the Steelers after Mike Tomlin disciplined him. Let's listen. You guys make headlines. I wanna be traded. Now I'm not a book gray for his organization. That's a good chance on me and Tony live out my dream. So anytime a partner teammates as guy who don't appreciate them around God who not trying to, I'm this guy in the media, you guys make out the be, then it is a distraction because not been as winning. Limitations at this point, anything. Anything bother you. You want me to say you don't care about my problem. Now you've probably down cloud. Well, we want me to tell you no one cares about my problems. They just care about the winning. All right. Thanks. Right about that last week, but Pablo dantonio Browns now different to you. So he clearly went and talked to Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin is punishing him in ways that are not publicly disclosed. So yeah, there was a little bit of a change rude up until the last part with Antonio Brown was like, what? Here's how I actually feel. I hate all of you. I don't care whether you care about me either. I think on this. It's interesting because everybody the locker rooms all out of control and everything else. Clearly, Thomas is something that registered with him in one way or another, and that is useful, right? Will that change the perception of the whole locker room because we love the whole locker room out of whack based on what's going on with one dude here. But yeah, you got to the end there you'll kid by paying, you'll feel and not necessarily wrong there. They just want to know for the story that they're seeing indoor, the gambling odds, whether you'll ready to go. But it's always gonna come down to same thing with him if he balls everything else a slide, yes. If you want to be a friend to Mike Tomlin just need out the last part of the interview. So because life easier. Next quote. I feel great. I felt like this in well, in my whole life, leaving was therapeutic bro. Said, vantera Davis to our friend, Dominique Foxworth about retiring at halftime. This past weekend Davis went on to say, quote that experience was personal and not meant for anyone else to understand. It was me cold Turkey, leaving behind an identity that I carried with me for so long in quote, voted hearing all that from vantera make the retirement at halftime seen any less ridiculous, but it never seen ridiculous to me. I don't know who else founder ridiculous. He looked up. It was like, I don't feel like doing this anymore. He actually had the heart to actually follow through and not do it. Like I get wise teammates are mad, but I never thought that he was being ridiculous in the first place. What I think is interesting is that this is a pretty short period of time since this thing happened for him to put it in the context of identity. I think it's really important thing because it's not just when you leave the football player, you're not just leading this job. This is what you have been since you were probably eight or nine years old. I am a football player. It's gotta take a lot to be like, no, I don't wanna be that anymore. Yeah, this does not sound like. Spin at all. Sounds like sincerity. And I think the criticisms of his departure centered around the idea that he didn't care about his teammates. Then you know, he didn't think this through, and I think all of that is fair to point out, but understand where it comes from. It comes from a place of I was overwhelmed by the revelation that I'm not meant for this world, right? Like that to me is incredibly relatable, actually, even if it's hard to imagine, well, let us not forget..
"vantera" Discussed on The Underdog Sports NFL Show
"And you and I have discussed him today. Wait. Is it Mike Martin? Yes. Mike Martin is backing fell and had a sack for the Oakland Raiders today. Congrats. Mike. It isn't facts more research Morio. Mo- Hearst hers book. An interesting name. I wonder if we're going to hear more about him later, possibly. With a toothpick in my mouth. So we gotta talk about this. Vantera Davis. Oh, man. Let's talk about it. Halftime. Vaunted goes into the locker room. I retire. I shouldn't be out there anymore. I'm done. It's over. Sealed later, gives up on his team just quits. What do you make of this. I mean, it's more than meets the eye were in a different age, a different time with sports in it looks funny. Let's start. Let's start with the surface. Let's start in pill back the layers. It's the anti speech is the anti name on the front of the jersey, not the name on the back. It is the anti. It's a family in the locker room and nothing can come in between. It's all of the, it's, it goes against all of those things that have been preached in hammered into players heads for. To who knows how long peeling back the layers. Athletes are feeling more empowered. The game is still trying to officiate a lot of the violence in the harm out of it. The Bill stink page, Josh, Allen. His arm is strong. That's true. That's what we. That's what you do draft quarterback for you. Don't care if they can accurately throw the ball, but as long as they can throw the ball four, it's good that worked really well jamarcus Russell. Exactly. Embong Tei at think he came to terms with what football provided him, which is another conversation football being looked at as a means of provisions and not just this thing that I do for the love of it in the sanctity of it. You know, there's plenty of guys that do that. And I think we've never seen a guy tank a hit e in the middle of a game. And we've never ever seen a guy Tang hit e and have the ability or fill empowered enough to say, I don't care what it looks like. I'm going to take off. I'm gonna take my ball with me two guys head home when I was awkward that they were using Davis's football and so they had no. The second. Saved the bills, save the Bill, some embarrassment. But no, it's it's. It's worth discussing what I hope that vantera at some point, if he's up to a fills, the need to explain a more in depth and thoroughly, what what went through its head. He doesn't pats on the show. Powell. Damon safe, you here. I'm here to talk with the man. Well, he's a different kind of cat though. I mean, we remember on hard knocks when he got traded that one-season and he was he was crying in the GM's offset. I'm not making any judgments one way or another about this. Just stating the facts crying in the GM's office and he his first move was to call his grandmother..
"vantera" Discussed on The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
"Here's some straight talk for you. Michael Smith. Nobody went after vantera Davis on this air the way that Michael Smith did yesterday. Once that overstatement, you said it's his lame. As anything you've ever seen an athlete, do. It is obvious reasons of all the players who've ever played. Whoever got into breaks beaten off of them, a lot of middle wanted to quit leave. He's the first guy to do it. I mean, Lorenzo Alexander, I never stated pop Warner in high school during came during a game, just took up the deuces and leave, but I'm over being mad, you know, on behalf of the site of the game, which I'd never played beyond myself sound like exactly does up that. I'm, I feel bad for him to be honest, which I feel bad if onto Davis, because even if you're not a hall of fame caliber player, I mean, you know, he's. A couple of pro bowls I believe in, you know, had a pretty long career even if you're not a hall of fame caliber player, you don't get the press conference and you don't get the fair world tour net, sorta thing. Your retirement is supposed to be something special and it's not always happen on your terms. The league may retire you, you know, you could say, this was special though it was memorable all the wrong reasons, but it's like he's robbed himself of being able to go out on a positive note. Like even if you walk out in training camp and said, my body's had enough. I mean, Eric decker was able to post on Instagram. I'm done. Okay, cool. He's got to go out and be mocked for quitting in the middle of a game and the bills are going to move on and continue to be bad without you without you. I haven't thought about vantera Davidson years, but now he has to live with this for the rest of his life or as long as people care about vaunted Davis, Quinton after it's a bit unfair. From this standpoint, though, if you decide because their lives of playing out on TV, we're watching it right. If you decide, many people have certain, hey, I'm dumb on this job. I can't do it anymore. I'm leaving. I'm getting up middle of the day. I'm leaving for lunch and ain't ever coming. He left Mitch shift. Would you be okay if he did it Saturday? Yes. If you didn't. Monday. I would. I would have been okay if you if you take himself out of the game and sat on the bench and said, oh, you know what? I don't have it today. Guys. I'm here to support you, but this is it for me or something faked an injury. And I'm the only reason I'm passionate about is because I'm just I'm looking at it not as the next athlete. Of course, I can look at it through that lens. I'm looking at it as a straight up professional. There is nothing worse than being let down by the people you're depending on to do your job and no matter how, what, what no matter to state of the bills vaunted Davis was starting at cornerback with him. So if he was having these feelings these reservations about continuing to play the game, he could have expressed it at any moment at any moment leading up to the game, but two at halftime. Just decide, I'm done well, it has that has a ripple effect on the rest of your teammates, no matter how poorly they're performing. That's a, that's an expectation. Just like we have speculations that each of us is going to do his or her job in order to make the whole thing. Oh, gamma. Put it on the poll all the bills wanna quit at halftime. Sure. They did. They quit on. They probably quit longtime ago. That's spoken like a good teammate though, because that's spoken through your prison because you sat there next to Jamal with everything that was going on and you bring that up. You were these. There. Under which the you were going to look for an exit ramp, Norway. How long you had that locked and loaded chamber. No, but yet. But yes, yes, I listen. I, I do fancy myself. If I may says was a good teammate. You know, I do believe in being accountable being supported to the people around you. So yeah, that hit home from that standpoint. Same here by the way, I do feel like the bills will test anybody's good teaming, how you just dropped that just like casually. Okay. Mic gone..
"vantera" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"He knew that it was time and it was time right then now I was wondering a couple things. What if there's like a like a third, nine with four minutes to go in the in the first half, and then that was the moment that he decided like then do you just walk off the field? Was it at a halftime that he really thought? Could you have stayed on the sidelines? Just a, I don't know, two hours. What if they were on the road in San Diego or in Los Angeles against the chargers. What if the game was on the road does vantera Davis retire at ton? What's it gonna buy tick. You're gonna get an Uber back from a. what? What? What's he gonna do. So for these writers who are calling him a hero, I gimme the aerobic gesture here. He knew when it was time to retire. Okay. If he if he knew when it was retired time to retire, it could've been, you know, with three and a half minutes ago, why not just walk off the field then would that have been heroic? He waited till halftime, and then he drove home and beat the traffic in buffalo. If you're in Los Angeles, would he have retired at halftime time? I have not seen anybody asked that question. I would love for volunteer Davis to come on and you know, we, we could chop this up. He's not busy anymore. Maybe we could. We could discuss. Would you have retired at halftime if you were on the road? Yes. Paulie you think this is going to catch on? You know, players just get real tired, two minutes left in the third. The center just goes, you know what I mean? I just I just decided to retire. That's ever roic gesture. He knew when it was time to retire. Okay. In. All seriousness. Let's say you just got fed up one day. He said, I'm done with this whole business. Would you finish out your shift? Yes. Yeah, of course. I would course, or course would. I have to believe you could put into more hours. Have you had a day in your professional on air career where you have manned? I'm I could be done with this. I thought I was going to be fired one day at the mother steps differ that's on your your choice. We said this this stuff just thinks you haven't had any bad days like that. No, because normally when you have your bed, if you have a bad show, it's that the end of your day, and then you just finish the show and then you're done, and then you start another show next day. I mean, that was the magic of doing sports center. You could have a bad show, just say, all right, drive home, forget about it, and I'll be back again. But I don't think I've had a bad show here, so there'd be no reason to walk away from it and checking. You haven't? Yeah. Would you fritzie would you check if I had a bad show since we started doing believe you have couple of questionable things said in a given segment, but as far as an actual whole show, and I think you're right there. Thank you. You're welcome. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm son curious about Monty Davis if he would have walked away at halftime in Los Angeles against the chargers, kind of convenient do it in buffalo. Yes..
"vantera" Discussed on Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin
"Seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN eight seven, seven, seven, three, seven, seven, six. Your thoughts on what able had to say about the fight about the decision about basically the way it all went down. We'll get to that plus, man. I'm gonna have to have a long conversation with everybody about USC and what the expectations are. We'll tell you about that in just a second. Thanks, Abel, Sanchez, the trainer, Gennady glove, Ken for joining us there. By the way, our poll this afternoon brought to us by Buffalo Wild Wings. Was a very simple question. We're talking about vantera Davis. Yeah, of the Buffalo Bills your boy, Kirk who basically quit at halftime in walked out and never came back. So I asked the question, have you ever pulled up on Davis with a job fifty? Nine percent say no, but we've gotten some really funny responses to this and you can vote or respond on Twitter at Sodano ESPN. Here's one from Ronald Richardson says when I was seventeen I worked at Wendy's, we had, we had a transient, destroy the bathroom PICO matter everywhere. The manager at the time ordered me to clean it. I quit on the spot. See that. Yeah, I don't blame you. We've got a couple of different ones here. Here's one from Guillermo. Guillermo says was between jobs back in Christmas, the twenty fourteen needed a gig. So I applied for a seasonal spot at a Nike store and went through two weeks of training. First day was twelve hour overnight before thanksgiving. Walked in on black Friday clock then did a lap clocked out. Never went back. Yeah, man. They're trying to get that discount. That's all he was trying to do. That disco Sanjaya tweets says she says, I know someone took a lunch break and never came back. Yeah. I mean, look do it all the time. That's why I'm not surprised. Bounty Davis did still surprised Mike is here, you know? Yeah. Mike, Mike Pearson because everybody has that that thought on Monday come back from Vegas. Yeah. You go to banks on late, you get back lake Sunday. You wake up Monday after a whole weekend of actually, you know, working and getting, you know, having a good time, but you wake up Monday night. Oh yeah, that's how you must feel going back to practice today. We'll get back to your calls unisex and if you want to react to the Abel Sanchez interview at eight, seven, seven, seven, ten ESPN eight, seven, seven, seven, ten, three, seven, seven, six, Kirk, I I was watching that thing and I I know we talked to Robert woods earlier about it. Robber woods was on this an hour ago. If you missed it, you could always subscribe to the podcast and find it there. He was actually very downtrodden. It seemed like, but somewhat upbeat still about USC, but man, look, here's the question as I'm watching them through three weeks. This is no longer an overreaction. Okay. And I understand that the college football seasons only eleven or twelve games or whatever, but twelve games conference. I put this question out there on Twitter after the game is clay Helton and his staff in real trouble. I put his clay in trouble, but I now open that up to his staff because I know a lot of people have issues with t Martin, right? But this team Kirk does not have an identity, doesn't have an identity on. Offense. It doesn't have an identity on defense, right? And if your identity is not utilizing the really good running backs that you have and letting a freshman quarterback, who I think is going to be really good, throw the ball forty eight times, even though he completed a large percentage of them on the road, that to me is not the identity you want because that's not a recipe for success on offense. I think they're still trying to find what their identity is supposed to be thinking about it coming in..
"vantera" Discussed on Slate's Hang Up and Listen
"It's been useful that way in terms of people who see it as like players really need to look out for themselves because nobody's looking out for them and this is just the most extreme case of that. And like as this edge case, we should celebrate it because like here's a guy who's like so self actualized that he'd like really doesn't give a fuck. And then on the other side, they're like, actually, there are even in this league that so demonizing there are like ways to go about this and you did kind of screw over your teammates a little bit. I mean, how much did you screw over your teammates? You're screwed over yourself more. I mean, okay. The bills were down to, you know, three DB's or safeties and it did put some burden on on the players that were still on the field on Raphael Bush on Raphael Bush. But I think the larger reality is what we do need to focus on here. I do think this guy snapped, and I do think that. NFL players are conditioned to believe that they're obliteration is to the team and to the organization and to the contract that they have signed as opposed to themselves. The NFL will break your contract and a second Bill Belichick will cut your ass in the middle of practice loyalty is not a two way street in the NFL. And I think it's really important to not forget that when I spent my summer in the Broncos locker room only the smartest and the most self-aware players like Iran foster who was not on the Broncos then are willing to call out bullshit. There were a bunch of guys. I saw grapple with the exact same kinds of emotions that vaunted Davis expressed in his statement only appear to me was this guy this linebacker name in gold, and he saw the NFL's hierarchical controlling. Ammo for what it was. He was cynical, he was angry. He was clear eyed. He knew the NFL wanted to make everything about the league and the team. So he chose to make it about himself. Other players viewed him as selfish for doing that. There is an I n.. But from his perspective, it was fucking these people. I don't need to be anybody's friend. I don't need to be anybody's buddy. I am here to work and get a paycheck. And when I am done, I am fucking done and I will decide one on it sounded like he was on survivor like sincerely like, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to win the game, the game being getting getting paid Zad like that was his goal just to extract as much from the league and the team as he could while he could? No, I don't think it was cynical in that way. It was that he loved competing. He loved playing the sport, but everything about it in the way he had been treated by other organizations and by the Broncos he'd viewed as just part of the game of controlling players. Two quick things before we move onto Levy on bell about vantera Davis. I don't remember why started watching this. It's probably just like the YouTube algorithm feted to me, but there was like a scene in hard knocks that to twelve. Yeah, when it was the dolphins and he got traded on TV like. It was that's respectful for our public consumption entertainment. And you heard the GM Jeff Ireland. I mean, it wasn't I I don't wanna go too far and say that Ireland was lecturing him. It actually seemed like Ireland was trying to help them out and say like the reason that we were trading you as the you need to be more consistent. It wasn't like that mean-spirited, but just the nature of the fact that his being dumped by this team and sent to the colts was like made and Danner tain -ment kind of shows the way that and this is an at all unusual. It wasn't like vantera Davis, and the context of the NFL was mistreated like that's totally normal like another team actually wanted him. So you could even spend it as a positive. But it's just like weird that like this is the way that this guy has been treated in his career. He also got released by the colts last year when he said publicly that the team hadn't handled his groin injury very well. And so this is a guy who you know a team caught him for. I don't know..
"vantera" Discussed on Slate's Hang Up and Listen
"September seventeenth. Two thousand eighteen on this week show will discuss vantera Davis's pretty much unprecedented mid game, retirement, Levy on bells, ongoing holdout and the limits of player solidarity and the NFL Alex Hutchinson of outside magazine will also join us to talk about how Kenya's Elliott Kip Shoghi managed to destroy the world record in the marathon. And Aaron Gordon will be here to assess the athletics efforts to become a world dominating audience pleasing sports media. Behemoth joining me in Washington DC is Stephan. Fats s author of the books, word freak and a few seconds of panic. Hello, Stephan, Josh. I like how you said hang up and listen in the new twist you like that you think should adopt. That new cadence. Sure. Hang up and listen. Do you want to start us off by talking about the NFL? Would that be a thing that I can entice you to do? I could do that. All right. Go for it. Buffalo Bills defensive bag. Vantera Davis played the first half of the teams game on Sunday against the Los Angeles chargers. And then at halftime, the ten year veteran and former pro bowler told his coaches, he couldn't play anymore. Took off his uniform and left the stadium in the understatement part of a statement that he released later Davis said, this isn't how I pictured retire from the NFL, Josh Davidson's. Unusual retirement has provoked. They hurricane Florence of takes almost all of which have been harshly critical of the player except when they're making fun of the terrible Buffalo Bills. Bill safety Rafael Bush said, I did lose a little respect for him just as a man linebacker Lorenzo Alexander said, it's just completely disrespectful to his teammates. I just went to the buffalo news is website. The main. The headline is in all caps and big type bills are better off without vantera Davis. My take is advantage Davis is better off without the bills and that there are more NFL players than you might imagine who picture retiring from the league? Exactly. The way Davis did saying, fuck it and quitting on the spot. But way you said this was a, how I pictured retiring from the NFL is. He may not it before, but when it came time he was like, it was clear. The picture was clear. My second take the reactions, say less about Davis than they do about the power that the NFL exerts not just over fans and talking heads. But over other players, at least the ones who have been quoted here about Davis who can't seem to fathom. Wyatt teammate might just up and leave, Josh. What are your quick takes? What do you wanna start talking? Well, this is a sports columnist in buffalo. I would be incredibly grateful for this happening. It seems like a really, really easy take to produce on deadline on a Sunday. So thank you to vantera from the buffalo sports media just before I just wanted to give a little bit more detail from vantera Davis's letter. He's totally want to talk about Monty Davis letter because he said revealing state of mind of an NFL player. He said it was his tenth season. He'd been doing. What his body had been programmed to do, get ready to play on game day. He mentioned that he's endured multiple surgeries and played through many different injuries. Threat is career and he had been suffering through another injury the last few weeks and it seemed like what was motivating this was concerns for his health or the feeling that you know, I've assessed my body. I've assessed my ability to do this in the first half. It became incredibly clear to me that I'm not healthy enough to be on the field that I'm a danger to myself and others by being on this field. And so I am now ex exiting the field that seemed to me what he was trying to say. I would say this, I feel like I'm a little bit more sympathetic to the teammates, then you are. It is objectively a weird thing to do absolutely. To quit the team in the middle of. Game, no matter no matter how we feel about the NFL and how dehumanizing it is and and all of the negative things we've said on the podcast for years and years, bracketing all that..
"vantera" Discussed on First Things First
"So that that that part is important. I called you on and move onto a player that you coach with the colts cornerback vantera Davis. He retired at halftime of the bills game against the chargers like literally just walked away from the game during the game later, put out a statement, saying, quote, I shouldn't be out there anymore. Here's his teammate, Lorenzo Alexander afterwards. Never seen it ever pop mourner, high-school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it and it's just completely disrespecting went to his teammate, I. What did you make of this when you read about when you heard about it? Disbelief, I was in, I was in shock. You know, I spent a lot of time with vantera. We shared a lot of great moments together. I've seen this guy play at at the highest level. You know, I, I'm not in that man shoes. I don't trade for him. Yes, we did. You trade it for and also to twelve from the dolphins? Yeah. You putting in the most. I mean, dependable situation. He was traveling around at his best when he made the Provo, you had him garden the best receiver. So he's a guy that you had a lot of respect a lot of confidence in a lot of responsibility. Yeah, no doubt about it. And again, it's timing is everything timing on this one obviously is it's a head scratcher, but this good kid again, I don't know where he's at physically where he's at emotionally. You hate to see this for that organization to bills right now sitting at Owen to they, they don't need the distraction eight in need this, obviously. But you know, I wish the best for this kid, you know, moving forward. And if he's done with football, which he, which he probably is at this point, I think that's obvious. That's a mute point. But again, I, it's, it's hard. Listen. We've guys. Retire midseason often we've seen some great players go in with another team. Realize this is is I'm not as good as I thought I was at my body's shape. It's the fat. If he had retired today. I don't think anyone, it's not a story. I mean, it's a story for the bills, but it's listen. This guy that gave five million dollars this off season. It's contracts guaranteed played a couple of games, realize I don't have it. Maybe they try to claw some of that money back, but it's the during the gain that makes this huge story. Like see the bills weren't going to win this game meat, either way. But what is what? How does that message filter throughout the team in the second half and how does that affect other guys on the team? I mean it it doesn't filter at all because the one thing that we say, even the players, the coaches, we detach ourselves from the front office. It's like, it's us like we're in this together. And if you depend on nothing else, you can depend on me as your brother and. It's just not something we've ever seen before. I've seen guys could at training camp. I seen guys come in at lunch, Turney room keys in turn a playbook and say, this is not for me, but we just don't see veteran players guys who have made a lot of money off this business because there's a way to do things, and I don't want a guy out there if his mind is not into it. So I do have a little bit of understanding. I don't want you out there for thirty minutes. People would say, well, why didn't you wait till after the game with someone can really get hurt? If you don't have your mind in the right place if you're not sold out to what you need to do for your body and for your teammates? No, he shouldn't be out there. I would have thought that he got thirty minutes football left any and then he can quit today. Well, even into tell me if I'm wrong, even if he realizes I can't be out there. He can go. I would imagine to the coaches and say, I can't play anymore today, like kill fine. Me whatever it is I can't, but that that..
"vantera" Discussed on Skip and Shannon: Undisputed
"They do this in the season. They don't do it in the heat of competition. But if you remember last year, skip Mischer Tate sought right there. And she said, you know what? It came to me in the middle of the fight that I was done. She said, I hate it that it cap and that time, but I had to keep fighting or I could have seriously been hurting. Yep, vantera Davis. I commend him skill because we said, you know what? Man that guy just the money. I know some other guys that have quit, they quit mentally, but they still showed a physically. He was in a place that he says, you know what? I don't wanna do it anymore. Now, buffalo say that I wish you had told me that earlier. They didn't just come to this realization yesterday if your member indie cutting with it last year. So this was hair. You know, this was brewing now, maybe he's like, if you watch the footage of the charge was scoring touchdowns. There's not a buffalo defender in sight. So vantera Davison said, hell. A lot of you guys retired, see what I'm seeing. I'm just mad enough to walk away from it. It's when you get to this point in time when I was talking about this last night when you reach this point, you know what you do. You want me to the locker room. You put your uniform in the middle of the clothes. You take a shower, get dressed. You look around, you realize I'm never coming back in another locker room again. You do out? I've never skip. I see. See I when I heard it, I like I'm reading twit into up on this coming. Bontade Davis retires. I'm gonna how they retire, how you retired doing the game. I never ever heard, and I've heard listen, I've share some stories and I've heard some stories, but this is might be one of the strangest stories in my fourteen years of playing and being around for another fifteen years that I've ever heard all my life. So I'm with you on this. I have zero use four zero respect for vantera Davis saying no moss at halftime. If he wanted to do it after the game he wanted to today. I'm fine with that because this was predictable to me. If you look at his recent history, I don't think his mind or his body was into what was going on on the football field. And he knew it just like me. She Tate said she knew. So let's look quickly back in his career. He was a twenty fifth pick in the first round for the Miami Dolphins, and he was basically a bust in Miami night traded him to Indy. And he sort of found himself. He's found a second home in a second live in Indianapolis, and in twenty four teen in two thousand fifteen. He made the Pro Bowl and he got his money. He got twenty million guaranteed. He has made fifty four million dollars for his career, but right on schedule last year, he tears his groin early in the year. He says he needs surgery, which he did. So he had surgery and indie said we are out done and we cut you at the end of the year, and I'm pretty sure he's thinking, am I done yet? Like is this it? But buffalo calls and says, hey, we'll give you two million more. And on top of the two million guaranteed we'll give you fifty thousand dollars a game that you make the forty six man roster. So he's thinking, I don't know. It's pretty easy money, right? Get one point five to fully guaranteeing base. All right meal. Okay. So he's saying this is just like easy money, right, stealing, but you still have to actually play football. So what happened in as he was not ready to play yet? He was not healthy coming off his surgery. What happened in training camp? He could not play what happened in the season opener this year. The first game he was in active and what happened? Right on schedule buffalo, probably the worst team in the league. They have so many injuries at corner and say, please, I had to play. And not only did they have to suit him. They had to start him and what happens right away. In that game, you saw Mike Williams gets wide open and victimizes. This guy vantera Davis. A former pro bowler is a shame that he's just getting lit up. Yes, he just doesn't wanna play anymore. Okay..
"vantera" Discussed on Get Up!
"Cornerback vantera Davis retired at halftime of yesterday's thirty one to twenty loss to the chargers he played in the first half. It was not on the sideline for the second half. He chose to retire from football in the middle of the game. Here's the way some of his teammates in particular Lorenzo Alexander reacted. Never seen it ever pop Warner, high-school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it, and it's just completely disrespecting went to his teammate and he say better anybody today saying that nobody you left when you know as much as I know. I know I found out going into second half of the game coming out city said he's not coming out. He retired. So so volunteer Davis released a statement on Instagram saying, this isn't how I pictured retiring, but reality hit me fast that I shouldn't be out there anymore. I meant no disrespect to my teammates or coaches Rex, if you're one of his coaches, oh my God get the hell out of here. I mean, that's the thing when he had informed Sean McDermott and I can just see Shawn's like jaw hit the floor, and I'm sure he's just like what the hell. Like I've been involved in football my life and not at one time. Look, a lot of things go back and guys a loser stinger a little bit, but you know, you bench him, you try to bring them back or whatever, but this is a joke. You don't quit in in for him. Not think he was disrespectful to his teammates that are fighting their butts off and everything else. I mean, it is the ultimate disrespect. I think in look, you're going to quit quit on Monday. It's it's an embarrassment and you know what? He can't play anymore. I get. This is a classic example of when you invest in playing in the team sport, you have to leave a part of me at home when you come into a locker room at fifty, three other men, they're sacrificing near getting beat as well. He didn't just retire. You mentioned it. He quit. Now there's another way to look at this. If you one of his teammates. He could have waited too after the game, play terrible in the second half and it took his game check right. Would you leave at halftime? You don't get paid for that game green. So in theory, he didn't take care of either side. He just kinda just up and left high. Did you know that by the way, is that actually written into contracts paying attention that the higher. Halftime. Is that something that has ever been addressed before? But. There's no way to look at this thing and not say to yourself if they're winning in this game, if they don't look like the worst team in the NFL. Is there any chance in hell he retires at two and the answer is obviously no, and you know the thing that's really sad those you see the Renzo Alexander, they have some real pros on that team. You know, Kyle Williams and different guys. A lot of the better gonna play their butts off all within the end. Yeah, it's not going well right now, but you know what? They're going to man up and this is going to get better because of it. You watch what happens if he thinks that is this guy has had a very long respectable, very respected career. This is going to be one of the strangest endings that sticks with him. No matter what he says beat went and big d for the Cowboys last night to that mean, the problems have been solved for Dak in Dallas..
Buffalo Bills player abruptly retires during halftime
"Buffalo Bills cornerback vantera Davis apparently upset with his sub-standard play on the field says he's done with football two games. His tenth season in the league. Davis who had signed a one year five million dollar contract this past off season to play with the bills apparently decided he'd had enough after the team went down twenty eight to six during the first half of yesterday's game against the San Diego. Chargers. Stunning. His coaches and teammates with his abrupt decision. Davis later released a statement saying that he quote did mean any respect to the team. But that he should shouldn't be out there anymore. And he wanted to walk away from game healthy rather than limp away when it was too
"vantera" Discussed on First and Last
"Rushing yards on eleven carries after a one hundred six on eighteen carries and TD in week one. We know a lot of that booed by along catch by long run, but fourteen receptions for eighty yards. Most receptions in a game in team history for the New York Giants. The first player with ten carries and ten receptions in a game since Tiki barber in two thousand thirteen. And this is what hap-. I mean, when you invest in players either financially or in draft capital, you usually ask them to show there are a lot of the load. But man, this guy is learning very early. The not only gonna get to shoulder that load, but he is gonna get shoulder at largely an isolation based on what we saw because of saquon making the first guy miss. Then the plane going to hell outta anywhere. So as we start to build the case for people to either sound the alarm or ring the bell and celebration, the New York Giants airing largely on the side of the alarm first and last podcast. Sometimes we all have bad days. Sometimes you feel like giving up sometimes you feel like giving into the pressures of your life, things that mount up and while you just feel like you can't possibly push on through, but we usually all find a way. Well, we're usually not vantera Davis first and last Michael junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app because that is exactly what happened yesterday in the middle of the Buffalo Bills game in a way that I truly can't remember ever seen before in any Rome of sports. And I feel like we've seen a lot and this is both a feather in the cap of the content model, and also something that is just fundamentally disagreeable as a person in the world sports. But for the NFL as we get through two weeks in the NFL. This feels like is strong start is the league could have hoped for. Right? Because last year I remember the first four weeks of the season were abysmal. It was flags in every direction. It was a lot of really sloppy play. Overall, we're getting quality football in places all across the league already. That far supersede anything I can remember in recent memory, and I don't know if that's backed up by anything statistically yet if we've got enough to kind of aggregate together. Trends year to year that would back this up. But this is just a feeling through the first couple of weeks as we're walking in here, trying to figure out how we tie a ribbon around all this and present it because they're so damn much and they're so damn much good in all this at the same time there is so damn much. Interesting. That ain't always good. I got a text from one of our MBA folks. SPN who said yesterday you football guys have been hiding all the good stuff from us. Dudes Quinton at halftime. Good Lord. This just made my two thousand eighteen. Vantera Davis went and changed the game yesterday. Vantera Davis who was a cornerback for the Buffalo Bills currently yesterday at halftime. Just decided to up and leave in a way that absolutely perplexed everybody put a statement out after the game as he literally walked off the field at halftime toes teammates done. He was retiring by, they told his teammates. Told no one left his teammates to find out after like bills, linebacker Lorenzo. Alexander who expressed his frustration with one of his teammates, just flat out quitting on them in the midst of a game, found out going in the second half of the game coming out city, save, not coming out. He retired. So. Miss it. Say what you said Sean. Guys heard about it and said anyone come back up, never seen it ever. Pop Warner high school college pros, never heard of it. Never seen it, and it's just completely disrespecting versus my goal junior here on ESPN radio and the ESPN app I just wanted drink in because this was our collective consciousness yesterday going into second half of the game coming out city saving. He's not coming out. He retired. So. What like that moment in time that reporter was the collective NFL fan base yesterday, wondering what the hell. We were actually taken a guy who is a ten year NFL veteran vantera Davis guy who at one time was a pretty well known name in the defensive backfield decided to call and then has the audacity to release a very well written well-thought-out statement after the game..
"vantera" Discussed on The MMQB: 10 Things
"Surpri still use another linebacker if there's one they loved they're not gonna make that that need i'm not going to give him that how about quarterback vantera davis i like him but you don't know what you're getting he's not going to stay healthy for your most likely let's history says today's white was very good last year he's your number one they don't have a lot of depth behind these guys they need they really need cornerback do you want beg or do you want smaller and fast well that's a good question because what you're basically asking is an outside corner or an insight corner i mean not totally but for the most part i i think white is probably ultimately he'll be just flexible enough to move around i don't know if you'd be a slot guy so maybe not but he can certainly play outside on either side if we're talking immediate need i guess i would say an inside corner but i don't think we're talking mediate need because even though buffalo just went to the playoffs they're very much work in progress as a roster so i think they take the best all around corner all right i am he's a favorite of mine so i'm just going to give them to them i'm getting my cues the ucf cornerback and he you know he only played really one full season of division one football so he might need some development anyway but i think he's a guy you can move inside you can play him outside he plays a little bit bigger than his his height i actually i i'm going to quickly look up what he measured at the combine because i did not i did not take note of that and i meant to yeah five ten at the combine so smaller guy but competitive quick i like him a lot i think he's probably my favorite cornerback in this class outside at dens award so mike use ucf cornerback and i still insist the bills we'll have some interest in lamar jackson there but we'll see so he's still on the board on our little imaginary drafting deal on the.
"vantera" Discussed on GSMC Football Podcast
"Suspended or find if we had these rules around during his time how choi palmolive would i got fined one thing too i mean those those mid2000s raven steelers rivalry games where the best ray lewis ed reed younger terrell suggs our then you've got heinz war dude was pretty much one of the best things about heinz board he wasn't like a great receiver anything like that he was a good receiver but he's a guy who could hit you as he could block and he could hit you he'll let you kind of how juju smith schuster did with vantera burford this year yeah that was not a foul by the way not fell yeah i don't think it was either but i was laying out those hits and the best thing behinds award is he wouldn't come back oh yeah i try to hate comeback smile all right hines word even if you got hit every time you come back to the huddle the biggest smallest face his kind of weird almost like i don't know if it was a psychological thing to do was always big game receiver humi those catches them he may big ben look good yeah and even then said just imagine we had those rules back then but one thing i hope the nfl does not adopt this kind of what college football does what the targeting rule what is it you get hit with a target role you get agenda for the game now so they have in college if you get flagged they'll discussion of the referee to review it for targeting so i mean it's basically like i don't think that's something that the nfl is ever going to adopt because the reason why they have it in college is for another safety measure basically the nfl everything's targeting targeting people you're trying to get them on the ground college they want to teach proper proper technique to wrap up and to get people down obviously you don't have these big nfl receivers in college but no they that's that's something that should not happen in the nfl because it's the it's going to lose more and more of this we're going to go even more.