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Paella & pyrotechnics  A Valencia walking tour with photographer Paul Knowles

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Paella & pyrotechnics A Valencia walking tour with photographer Paul Knowles

"Hello everyone is Paul here with another episode of the win in Spain podcast. Thank you for joining me for our regular journey through Spain. Spanish life and coach. If you've got wondering is and you're interested in Spain then you're in the right place. This is the podcast for us. If you're new around here a very warm welcome and if you're a regular listener. Thank you for continuing to follow and tune into this focused. I hope you'll keeping healthy and wow during this difficult time While my job really is to try and help you forget all about What's going on at the moment in this difficult situation and transport sought you to Spain and also have you think of a time when we can all travel and enjoy our beloved Spain one small just before I recorded this introduction to this episode. I was out clapping on the balcony with China on our streets which we do eight o'clock every evening. Here's a little clip of clapping clapping on balconies in the center of Madrid. Let's transport ourselves this week to Valencia in this episode. I'm joined by Paul knows. Here's a photographer of some fifteen years and Valencia guide. He's originally from the Green Valleys of Wales in the UK but has been calling Valencia. His home with his young family for the last four years. Paul knows Valencia intimately. He's a walking tour guide. He runs his own private tools. Cord Streets Valencia. Old Town tall and coming up. We're going to be doing a virtual walking tour of Valencia with Paul who will be guiding us around the center of the city taking in all of the most important science that we should see on a visit to Valencia. I'm going to be sharing with us. A little splash of history. Valencia the Roman Time Valencia. Which means Vega? Yeah I think we get the wood volume from it. So Valencia is actually the city of the brave as as it translates to modern day. It was tonight crop of the Roman Empire. I like to think of it as a Roman retirement home. And of course we'RE GONNA be talking food and drink and no Po- cast about Valencia would be complete without talking about Pie. Original Valenciana comes from Alba Faira Lake though the region of Alberta Lake about twelve fifteen of the city and it was a lunchtime meal you know for laborers and farmers and they would. They would put rice in the pan on a wooden on wooden fire and throw in whatever they had which wasn't much time soon be tomatoes. Onions snails a duck. They would throw a bit abducted night. They could catch one and wall. Meets was also one of the main ingredients. Put a bit of Walter Vol- in that and stay tuned to the end of the podcast as we'll also be talking about one of Spain's most famous Ferry Aso festivals called last Fayas Pyrotechnic Feast of fireworks explosions an amazing assault on the senses. Which takes place actually at this time of year. Sadly because of the situation with Coronavirus It's been canceled. But we'll be talking about last fires the history behind what to expect. And why you should put it on your list of Spanish. Ferrier's each it'll street in the central blends has a fire which is kind of like a social club which people paid money into during the year and this money goes to build these incredible Din Yossi sculptures which constructed in every street around the city. I think is about six hundred fifty different sculptures all around the city and then on the final day on the they have the Chroma Lacrima and they set fire to all of the sculptures at the same time so the whole city is basically on fire. That's all up ahead. Stay tuned to be transported to the beautiful Mediterranean city of Valencia. But before all of that good stuff. I'd just like to give a special mention or shoutout to knew what in Spain patients. Merry Cunningham. Emily Batch and Ingrid F- to stall. I hope I pronounced your name correctly. 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It will be lots of fun and I will various more announcements out between now and next weekend on all of the usual social media platforms where you can find when in Spain to give you guys a heads up. So it's that time to sit back. Relax close your eyes while unless you're driving drunk. Laser is driving all. I've operating some kind of heavy machinery. But it's time to sit back. Close Your eyes and let yourself be transported to the Sunny Mediterranean city of Valencia. Let's imagine that we're wondering the city's beautiful straits with our guide Pornos as he takes us on a virtual walking tour of the city so think Beautiful Marble Squares Fountains Orange Trees Medieval Towers. The Cathedral of course would also be heading down to the beach and the terrier park and a little bit later talking about the explosive last fast festivals. Get ready for some loud noise at the end as well whereas via thanks so much for taking the time to join in Spain book us today. You're welcome my pleasure. Took all about Valencia. Sadly type that we'd actually get to meet face to face did have full service blundered through the streets the son of grabbing a beer afterwards but not to be. We make the most of it to shame lockdown life. So we're GonNa talk about the legacy of remotely Fortunately III. I came across photography for your fantastic instagram account. Documents photographs and you also was streets of Olympia Torres. Well how did you come to be in Valencian? Attract city to Valencia in particular. I left the UK. I'm from South Wales. I left the UK. About twenty years ago I ended up in Prague where I told it a primary school a British International School for fifteen years Met My now PA. They and we both felt it was time for move. I've always loved Spain and been interested in Spain and the history the weather in the food and so did my partner Julia and so we made the pledge about four years ago and it wasn't easy but it was worth it so Paul streets we're GonNa try and do in this episode then. He's kind of replicate your tour little bit. You're going to talk us through Valencia. Some of its history must see sites a bit of a coach food as well third biggest city in Spain. Right eight hundred thousand people. Yeah it is the third biggest city I would say obviously this morning I mean I think that sometimes it's kind of overlooked. I think Seville severe is kind of in people's heads a little bit more Obviously outside But Yavlinsky is actually the third biggest city but gaining popularity. I think I mean certainly. I've seen a lot of changes in the four years since we've been here. This definitely motorists definitely more interest. I mean I've been there many times and I good friend of mine who now lives in Barcelona. I used to live in Valencia. Nice to go up and visit quite regularly to me. I'll loveland said it's kind of a city of its own relays a beach city big city but not overwhelmingly big but a beautiful historic center. Got Its own coach very much identities language but then Theon O. Rien hardly the people say it's like a small boss or bought chilled boss Kinda cliche but any it's true. It's it's smaller than Barcelona. It's it's definitely not as cosmopolitan novice crowded not as popular busy. But like you say we have. We have a beautiful big old town. Wonderful historical sites great architecture the food miles and miles of beaches so starting on audio virtual tower of Alexia. Where would you normally start? Let's take off a few must see sites for anyone coming to Valencia for a first time. Well we meet the sensor in the also Eddyville Historical Sense Plaza del Virgin by the financing. Which of course his dominated by the Cathedral Valencia Cathedral then go behind a walk through the beautiful walkway which is the basilica which is kind of the work in positive the cathedral and we go to the Roman the Roman origins of the city? Which is the Amona Romanowski Logical Museum? Don't go outside the these in. But I recommend that you do is Fabulous Museum. Just two euros to get in to your eyes euros entries fantastic you go in and underneath a museum in the basement is off the Roman ruins the original Roman the Roman Bath House Forum. And it's really good how they designed it. It woke over three inches of glass clear glass and so they designed it where you can actually walk over the raise and see them spread out below yet. It was finally. It'll Valencia the Roman time Lenzi. Ah which means Vega Yeah. I think we've got the wood valiant from it. Isn't that what it means interesting vigor? Valiant yes so? Valencia is actually the city of the brave as as it translates to modern day. It was the night crop of the Roman Empire allied to think of it as a Roman retirement home. It was kind of with the. Yeah it was kind of where the Romans. If you survive the ten or fifteen or twenty stretch the rug Manami you know the infantry. You will kind of sense as rewards. Nc where you could make wine late in the sun setting the scene for BANSA soldiers that were out to graze after they pay unfortunately this kind of utopia didn't last very long because Around the back seventy five years later Partha Roman Civil Brahmin Non Walls. Pompeii raised it to the ground. And so that was the end of the original ten. Palencia will square that you're on. This is a big marble squad found in the Middle Square. The torture may collect which is the highest rates The Tower little tip for me is that I mean you can go to do the full to the cathedral but it kind of is huge inside and it goes on and on and armed and if you're really interested right upper little kind of cheese is if you just go directly for Placido Raina to the front of the Cathedral go directly to left pay a couple of euro so just go straight to the top of the tower top Michelet and have a beautiful view of the whole city for their top. Ten top tip. Where would you normally head from back? So we come around the back of the Cathedral and we're in Pasadena not too much. Nope there but we do. It's kind of like the way the buses common turnaround in this futuristic restaurants. Not Scientific but we go through that because we wanted to laugh then we go to the policy of the Monarchy Doug was which is a beautiful the Rock Palace Fifteenth Century Palace which is famous ready for an absolutely stunning marble sculpture. On the front of it at. It's now a ceramics museum. The name didn't ring about the marble facade or this sort of the mobile doorway. I've taken a few snaps of that in the past. I'm yet stunning. Yes definitely a little Kodak Moment. So we stopped their pages very. It's kind of like Beige. Creamy colored Ma. Listen to me. It looks like candle. Wax almost been molded melted onto around the door. Sometimes save like a giant cheesy wedding cake over its episode. Beautiful Very opulent in. It's time we stop there. We have a photo we then back to go back into the historical to the market area. The central area but on the way on our left we pass the cafe the Madrid which those who like refreshing drink is interested. The coin died. That's where the idea dementia was invented or created for the Valencia. Yeah I was GonNa ask you about that. Actually tried it before. I don't think I've tried it and Cafe Damon three remember this is. Npr cocktail made predominantly with. Cover Spanish. Shumpei there is a little story. I mean I don't know how true this is but you know. Take the pinch salt. But it's a nice story so there's a cafe demetre eighties. There was a way to Constantine Hale who van came onto become. Oh became a very famous painter. You could check out some of his paintings sites. At Constantine Kill. He was a bomb of time and there were Randy best travelers. Who kept older? Atwood's bill battle with the bill. Bo was Calva and the bomb got fed up off a crisis. While you're ordering the same thing you know. And he said well you make something different than and so he wanted us to the industry's at side which you can still stinks see. Standing today. Grabbed a load oranges squeezed into the into the carve-up now actively Valencia and so that's the equivalency was born. The modern version is kind of fortified with a little bit of gin a little bit of vulgar curious. Well so you know you gotta be careful in the summer on the start getting it. Dinu and yeah I mean I. I've seen people ordering it. By the jugs by the jug as good stuff. Yeah Lovely Nice and refreshing. I'm an APP to think of oranges. Almost in a way they go everywhere. I mean you know. Some people might get people from Florida on my tour California that not so not so nominate by the orange trees everywhere are being. British is still kind. It lowers be a novelty. Just see to see orange trees growing on your streets as a way. I completely agree with you that quite a number two. They're everywhere here in the streets. Of course you. Kati ones in the city. But you know if you get on your bike the second you get outside of the city a couple of kilometers you know if you go pessimistic you can. You can grab grab went straight from the trillion. You Could Nikolay Lens. They but the city bitter I think but they still have is the May harvest them. I think they use them for it. Oh perfume industry and cosmetics. Yeah they harvest them around about the beginning February here one day. Wake Up. And there's no oranges just Donnie. So we've had a joke with Sierra in cafe next up where we take us next. Well then we walk tools. The mankad sent out which is one of the spectacular highlights of the war the the central market. I've read that it's the biggest food markets in Europe. So I'm not sure exactly. I know that the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul is pretty big but they say it's the biggest dedicated food logging. Apparently he covers more than eight thousand square meters. It's big it's I mean you know it's all the cliches but it is absolute cathedral to food. It's fabulous place. It's just a theater you could. You could walk around there for an hour. Just you know all the produce and the seafood and the fruits vegetables and just a bit space to go and it's more of a I think of to me feels more of work in markets Than that a kind of tourist attraction. It's you know you see that. The applause are in there by net by the rabbits. In the morning. It's very much would can market a lot. My guests so can we buy stiffer well. There's actually a book market. Which is what's going on behind the outsiders Scott By red white and blue tiles above the glass all my to take photos so the next day the day after you get you get the kind of photo story of your experience. We always take photos and funds if these kind of lemon and Pale. Blue Tiles is very traditional rustic country tiles in finding kitchens and stuff and they're around the the the market is very beautiful. I mean just talking about markets because you mentioned bat you know this is a working marquette. There's another mount in violence. Which is I imagine used to be. A market has since been converted into more food court with bars and restaurants Senate. Now I can't remember the name but Cardo Cologne. This is more upmarket culinary. What would you say I always try to compare it to two places in the UK? Even though I don't know why because I haven't lived at the twenty years but kind of this tradition of automotive in London they have very markets who food culinary. Makoto Connie's very much along those lines. Very beautiful little bit more upmarket but goodman the lesson and a study building. I think I'm pretty soon. It used to be a train station or some kind of sometimes the architect. It's all local plant but definitely D recommendation as well. Yeah like you said. It didn't how you describe it. I don't WANNA say food court because that makes me think of some dismal shopping center underground food court in a nine hundred eighty s shopping center. And there's nothing to. I would probably go there in the afternoon. And this beautiful Bazei. Scipio CAPPELLETTI JIM. Making and have some nibbles. Yeah back to the he at the central market of an area where met got sent. Shall we go right to the bill of the market? And if you look up in the middle you'll see this beautiful circular kind of ruled iron roof decorated with the beautiful paintings of fish and oranges and and Yeah it's real spectacular roof. We stopped there and take some phone. Say we turn right then. Walk through my favorite part of the market. Which is seafood whole whatever amazing projects fractured season from Brussels they? They shook his freshman. Michelle for you to have with the glass it carver with even the mascot central now and we took rights. And to what I think is I think. It's one of the buffs. Certainly one of the most beautiful buildings in the center NASA Yata de la Mega Saddam meaning silk. And this is a beautiful medieval building dated back to the fifteen hundreds where they used to trade six in the medieval days. It was kind of you know the end route of the history of the old Silk Road. And it's where the traders from all over Europe used to come to buy silk makes sense. I suppose the United States being pulled a port city as well. Yeah it's breathtaking. It's beautiful build in a beautiful building and again you can go inside. We don't go into might suit but it's one of the top things today. I definitely recommend you go in again. It's a couple of euros. I think everything's too. Let's get into some bargain prices but you pay two euros and you go into a Beautiful Orange Grove courtyard than you turn left into was the training room and it's a beautiful model touched whole. I mean really spectacular stunning architecture and Desert Chapel. There's a big basement where I believe. They used to stole the wind. I like to say that's where they still with the wind. But yeah that's the Yata definitely would be on your list of things to see we go right into the heart of the old time now we go to a very beautiful square plus the Delta Sal. Which is a beautiful square very famous cafe. Cafe San Jiao Bay kind of looks like an old Parisian Street cafe. But that's where you go and sit feel an evening grimace and watch the world go by. It's very beautiful ball. Cut An old wooden kind of looks like a kind of like a chemist shop. But it's where they could call their own set booth there the homemade the moose grounds ideal and I always say to anyone coming to Spain for the first time wherever you go really not necessarily offensive to wherever to try a bad mood because it's so typical afternoon tipple. I suppose it's great and you know it's a real cultural thing is the kind of thing in the UK accounting budget going with a group of my mates adopted a glass of a booth stupid. You do it here because you know when in rope rights when in Rome but absolutely went in Spain. I'm still working my way through to find ways to find the one I like the most but I'm enjoying trade off. I mean I've heard people say it makes it so that's really the only alcoholic drink which is acceptable to drink before midday. Exactly exactly and you see the old boy sack in the morning us out and we go into the old warsh quarter we go. We pass through the Portal Davao. Denia which is a beautiful archway dating back twelve hundreds and this would be the entrance into the old kind of mostly Islamic quarter of Palencia. Tiny little enclave right in the center of the old. What's interesting about that is that he can still see the original foundations dating back to the twelfth. Hundreds of the buildings and they've actually kept them and built new buildings on top so what remains from the Old City is the is the foundations of the building. So that's kind of real standouts logical sites that you when when you when you stood there to see a significant Streets that have been S. twelve fifty. Twelve Full T. So you really feel the history there. An incredible I would say the same thing with Mike Assets. I walk through to the corner through this This kind of ancient gateway into this old kind of enclave. I always say the same thing. It's always completely empty anytime of the day anytime of the year. I'm always saying you know you're in. You're in the right in the historical center in the Big City in Spain and this never sold around. It's amazing generally the center for Ansari's is just a little quiet. I mean it's getting busier can get lost two or three years visit so that we're all on this to now. I need to get who've on. Where are we? We walk through the whole them Islamic quarter and then we come to the tallest Toronto medieval entrance gates to the city. And that kind of Moon's really toll just before you get to the to regard. Suji imagine that would be the kind of medieval entrance to the city and then there was a wool spreading from the tourist is surrounded. Iran deal time. That's a stunning stunning. Tower is while you can still see the old wooden gate divisional chains on the gates the law could have about it is the scale of Garretson the two towers compared to the launch way. Exactly it's study must have been you know. I was thinking must have been quite a sight. Seeing five hundred years ago pilgrims or whoever at the city gates to see these massive tower above you then then as you go through the gates you see the old the old road leading back to the Virgin which is where we start until then we go around and we we take a different route around the back to see. Symbol Beautiful Streets and then we cut back into the into the square. We kind of finish started at the Francis. Kind of full circle walks through the historical centre. Just mentioned the gardens so beautiful long winding park that makes his way three not right for the center along we kind of edge of the city. But it's pretty central used to be a river right which flooded and then they decided to train it. Yeah it was a river whole though is kinda deceived him. Every time I see old pitches of the river. It's kind of like a small trickle. Just running to the to the through the through. What looks like a park anyway. But it wasn't a trickle because I tell my guests it doesn't rain much in Valencia. But when he does it doesn't stop four or five days we have these We have the gotTa free. Which is the cold drop E- get them. I mean usually around by usually February time we had. We had a terrible one in January this year when the worst this is what NETAPP is simply a sudden drop in temperature and it creates a huge stole. Will we get absolutely buckets and buckets of rain for three or four days so anyway? This was happening a lot and whiskey. was flooded the whole old time in nineteen fifty seven. They had a catastrophic flood. You can still see photos of this if you go into the old bakeries completely flooded at the time and so I think in nineteen sixty nine. They made the decision to the river around the city to stop it flooding and as a result we've got eight point eight kilometers of beautiful park now which stops right at the beginning where the Oxford Science Center is at the Ocean. Graphic senator and it goes all the way through the eight colleges to the bill which zoot and it's why people hang can picnic can run cycle. I love that pocketing. What great idea to turn the river into a into a big green space which winds its way alongside the city and it's kind of got different zones has an you know there's owns with lots of trees and grass like you said ideal for picnics There is like a skateboarding area. There's a giant For children like a giant Gulliver. It's kind of a giant. In Gullet of Gulliver's travels a magic giant giant giant plastic giant kind of laying down in the park. So you can only be see it above and it's kind of like slides and the big children's play area. The to resolve in general is is much busier than the spring and in the wigs. Because there's not much shelter that in southern it just gets too. I think at the beach in the summer I love about as you can tell. It was a river by the dimensions of it and the shape and the way it kind of curbs but also you've still got with bridges connection going over the park benches near the city about sciences. Which is a kind of the Boston towards the city about two sciences? Yeah it was finished. Dried about two thousand four. Two thousand five Saiako. Calatrava was the architect who incidentally has changed designed the OCULUS building which is the World Trade Center in. New York is kind of the futuristic kind of insect looking collection of buildings. I mean spectacular inside them visit. The Science Museum is a musical An opera whole. There's notion of graphic center at the Boston Meier. Recommendation is to just go that early in the morning as the sun's coming up you don't really have to pay money to go inside to see the exhibits the kind of dwelling sometimes but the building itself is the highlight so my recommendation would be to go there early in the morning or in even as the sun's rising elected unjust taken. The building is absolutely stunning. Just grounded who got some great pitches and yet at the building itself is definitely the the attraction. Yeah I tend to agree abuse collection very features white buildings of glass and metal Amazing I mean super futuristic. Compared to the rest of of any been inside I think once in such a very big very empty space not much in you mentioned earlier when the weather gets maybe the park. Not The best option but people get to the beach now. We can't really talk about Valencia without mentioning the beach. Let's go to the beach for a minute. The beach is not innocent. I mean it's not like Selena Royle Mallaig or other cities where it's right next to the senator. It's easily accessible. You can jump electronic on a train. The absolute best way to get to the beach is to rent a bike and cycle demetria selected the box of the two year wind. Japan Dame. And you'll come to the marina. I bet you'll see the beach so the best way for show is the cycle. Valencia's incredible the cycling Psychopaths everywhere for instance. I live in five. Which is very via the center and I can cycle all the way to the beach and rockaway beach without going anywhere near a road the psychopaths everywhere all of the city. So it's really safe. It's cooler in the summer. Of course pretty much. Every other building in Valencia is a bike rental huge spacious promenade and miles of miles and miles of beach. So go to the Beach. You've got plaid arena. Set the top near the Paul down to Cabana 'cause one of immune well-known parts of the beach the mental Alberta Madden a little bit further up. Just a little bit past madrassa to land at the corner in the summer as a little bit quieter at it. Also has these beautiful Beach had speech along the way as well so paddock. Owner is the place to go. You shortage of PAS and getting vetoes in places along the dish what I love about why. This is really wide so white beaches a lot of space. Isn't they definitely I clothes? That should give you another little tip. Lillian cited on the right hand side of the US science villain. You could jump on the bus jump on a number twenty five bus and in about fifteen minutes or so not will take you to our Salameh. Elsa layer is a tiny village off and head to the beach. The beach is really wild. I mean it's completely completely empty. Wild Sand Dunes and really want to escape the crowds jump public twenty-five Busted Elsa fifteen minutes. And you just have completely empty beaches except for maybe a few. You'd think this book one part of speech so but you also there is is is kind of completely as just before you get to elbow fair. Which is the National Park area? So it's really unspoilt and really really quite talking about the beach and going. Back to de la Serena segue into food and there is a restaurant right. There called La Peppy which a lot of people say is a good place to go for. What village series famous for the home of it is pilot Ziama but yeah a lot of egos the restaurant which I mean I recommend my guests to go to. Is it? The best player in a macho. Some people might say you have to go to the actual village in Alpe Fair where it's from but it's certainly an experience. It's an old traditional restaurant. It's been there for a while when you walk inside. You'll see the wages all in that white white outfits and that bow ties carrying the huge patents around view of the sea. The whole interior is is covered with black and white photos. Hemingway famous writers. It's where hemingway used to go for his hair when he was in time. So it's a real historical and cultural experience. Epica that's where you go for your seafood. Your your rice dishes. Yeah one of the features I think Really stands out. Is You have these restaurants on the front In some places in some results in some countries might think oh you know you might be void them. It's going to be expensive but none of them are really expensive. I think you pay around about twelve mighty five ahead for Valenciana which rights rights on the sea front to get one of the best pie in town. I think is pretty good. He's good value. That's really good value. I think the original Pie Valenciana comes from Albufeira Lake though the region of Alba Fair Lake. About Twelve fifteen south of the city and it was a lunchtime meal for Labor is in farmers and They would put. They would put rice in the pan on wooden on wooden fire and throw in. Whatever they had which wasn't much time suited beat tomatoes. Onions snails a duck. They would throw deducted knife they could catch one and Malta vol- meets was also one of the main ingredients. They should put a bit of we'll to vote in that room. I got blasco Ibanez. The famous writes in His book. Kenya sixty battle and he writes it by the custom of eating would've goals and putting them in any way things developed as became a popular tourist spot they kind of refine the pious by and now the traditional ingredients traditional meets is chicken rabbits green beans big whites kinda butter beans. We call them with fresh rosemary and tomatoes and the runner beans a substitute for jokes. I think in the winter enemy get feed while I guess gap pronouns in squid seafood scope is everywhere at a good A real traditional dish from I think it comes from I keep saying I think the fact finding but yet it comes from the Alicante region is out of a bounder which is which is my favorite. I wrote the boundaries really kind of Rich tasted seafood. It's made with the stock. The fisherman needs to make it with the stock from leftover fish shellfish not type things as real fishy stock rice with a bit of squid orbited Calamari thrown and I wal- Banda is is a local Alicante. You can find all the way up the coast of other. Bunder right up to Boston owner Sheikh but this is a very good one real traditional to try something a little bit differently. Traditional wealth abandoned is really take love. Yeah absolutely love it. I mean I really like rice dishes anyway but I mean that's only Profeta if a pair. I think probably bet pie crust that that he's got a special name in Spanish. I can't remember what it is. Sarah Sarah Equifax yeah. It's what is some soccer at a presentment Sakharov ask? This is kind of the cross because when you cook the player on the wooden on the on the wooden Cya you you don't stir it you at your water and your stock on top of your beaten rice and you leave it and the wall to Cook Stang and the soccer is this kind of the crust at the bottom of the pan where all the flavors are kind of richer and more developed than salty and dishes is delicious. I'm just had a quick look socar at Sakura Fara IRA on for a Welshman really is the traditional Sunday. You know it the family you see the families at the beach a huge tables and the message pad Ed Sunday roast. Isn't it the PIE oversee? If you'll visiting Spain you can eat pyeho whenever the hell you want and his problem with that at all but I would say it's sort of Sunday Sunday lunchtime dishes and don't Spaniards don't really eat pie in the evening and they don't eat it. Join the week reminded me. That's that's a real point. Actually player is only eaten for lunch have never ever eaten Nathan time. I guess you go by at lunchtime because if you see a place coconut in evening it might still be good. But there's a chance if my copy the real deal because it's really served for lunch. Yeah if you want to blend in with the locals Eat Your at lunchtime wherever you are in Spanish league because obviously player across Spain and yeah I think there is a risk of you. See someone like you said cooking. In the evening it might be a more of a touristy. Specially targeting tourists might just be Yellow Rice. Chicken stolen not good and pious should never have in it as Jamie Oliver found out. That's another thing I was GONNA say. There was somebody else. Twitter who who who published a pie recipe with Theresa may near the day as well as the Valencian Pie. Police will be on your back. Yeah no definitely no rapid you'll see fade and nothing else I wanted to do is hit back to wards the neighborhood where you live where I stayed up. Stayed in Valencia many times before and talk a little bit about the neighborhood Cord Russa very near the centre Scott Vibrant Artsy neighborhoods. Quite UP AND COMING. I guess you could say. Is it a hipster? But it's got some really cool bars restaurants cafes. I was trying to avoid saying the word hipster. But what you say hits. The people know what you mean is kind of like lots of these places that have gone through. Gentrification a started off as a as a as a poll maplewood you know central inner city neighborhood where where the workers used to let you know that And then also immigrants coming in from Latin America and that type of thing and that over the last ten fifteen years. I guess it's become kind of a cool place to to be. You know lots of cool restaurants baas cafes and lots of people to be an interesting things with food is well. I mean you know obviously but the Spanish I think a very traditional when it comes to food they they really they stick with what they know. They stick with what they liked. Because it's good you know the the basic ingredients and so when I first moved here. It was quite unusual to see food from other countries to see may tie food or Mexican food will will that type of thing but over the last four years precise Become much international with. Its people have become a bit more. What's the LID experiments with their food? And you can get food from all over the place where the locals combinations experience the real Lansing evening Saeed. Industry are full of tables and chairs. Everybody's outside Paul might right into the early hours you know if you wanna see the atmosphere then the music and the food and the life. It's very much where whether lets you goes to kind of eat. Drink can party. Yeah monkey as well as we should mention actually the capital suffering. I mean for local. Labor market is fantastic. It's it's kind of like a mini meerkat. Central really is it really is good. Just walked the streets. You have a Kayaker Kayak Rico. Kaya Sanca of these are the three main streets intersected middle just had their evening you know cocktail in food especially on Friday Saturday night. Most nights in the summer. Really busy though. But it's definitely the place to head in the evening I would say it's a good place to stay planning a trip to the to the city. I mean there are lots of There's a lot of airbnb in that area which I depending on how you look at. It could be a good or bad thing but there are hostels Sarah. There's of accommodation through price points. I suppose sometimes will say that. The old comedies in Russia and it's not in reserve for it's about five kilometers down the road from Rusalka but they tried to say that You check on the map anyway but suffers a great place to base yourself because you can hop on a bus be on the beach in fifteen minutes and you can stroll into the center of the time in fifteen minutes to so good place to base yourself. Yeah just south of the Center Eliza. What a half kilometre either. Yeah Yeah I mean I you know when I stopped my tours in the centre of the Cathedral I woke and it takes me twenty busy. It takes me about twenty twenty five minutes maximum to all right into center city. Yeah the parents wanted to quit. You mention placenames really at it might be important to note because especially if someone's coming to visit for the first time. Obviously in Valencia and the Valencia region. They do have their own language balanced. Yana which is kind of similar to Catalan is spoken. But you'll have no problems communicating in Berlin. Thayer in in in Spanish. The the street signs are written in normally Allen. Theon no but if you're looking at a map or Google maps you might see the names given in Castellano in in Spanish. So sometimes they might be a little bit of confusion there. They'll have dual language signs. Had Implants an Costanza Carrera Valenciano and Kaya in Spanish for for St? So you'll see the slides. Sometimes there's little variation spelling of the street name as well. Actually what I would say is that yes they have. They BLEND CIANO. The nowhere near as fiercely protective of their language as maybe some regions of Catalonia. Also you can happen. They just speak Spanish everywhere. Let's nook status areas in Valencia. Now we can't not mention last FI- ass sadly this year has been cancelled like all ferries across Spain at the moment to the Kobe nineteen disaster here made for them to canceled biases. A real real big thing. It's very hard to explain because it's just it's such a grand scale the festivities last month and they build up to the climax which is about five or six days you know the kids have five six days of school so it's really a massive massive holiday just very briefly the origins comer a carpenter's tradition a tradition of the competition. Used to have these pieces of wood cold paddocks which they used to use to hold the candles in the evening where they so they could work outside and will they used to do. They used to burn these peroxide march nineteenth because that was the beginning of spring the patron saint of Carpentry San Jose on the nineteenth of April. They would burn these pieces of wood because they didn't need them anymore because of the light screen evenings so they went into the streets and set fire to them. And then that's where. The tradition built built a bill to built into what it is today. What it needs. Today's pyromaniac gone crazy. I don't do it just studying. It's just incredible. The North's the closest thing we have in England kind of social butts of inch tickle district. Each it'll street in the central. Valencia has a fire which is kind of like a social which people paid by the into during the year and this money goes to build these incredible dignity sculptures chip constructed in every street around the city. I think it's about six hundred. Fifty different sculptures all around the city and the sculptures can be a comical satirical related politics or history of sports. They have different themes in different areas and then on the final day on the usually march the nineteenth they have the Chroma Lacrima and they set fire to all the sculptures at the same time. The whole city is fixed which always seems a shame because these scoped is a really detailed and they put a lot of work into making them right because they made from woods and paper Mash A and painted a lot of money they spend a Ford you hundreds and hundreds of thousands of euros on them and sometimes you can be walk past one of these workshops Mr for my two and you can poke your head in at any point during the year that painted and constructed incredibly detailed beautiful sculptures which they then bid for the Kremlin at the end. That's one aspect the other aspect is that on every every afternoon at two o'clock in the Central Valencia. They'll have a mass letter letter H. Just a daytime fireworks show which is focused on noise rather than than the fireworks so it just this incredible wisdom noise and you could feel your heart pumping chest and happen once again. But I don't think I've ever experienced such deafening noise before I didn't even know that kind of level of noise was possible into fireworks displays. Lots of different places but this is on another level so so loud you know you feel like a GonNa explode people you know that there's about one hundred twenty eight hundred thousand people every day for about three weeks to talk Assembly square which is of course one of the reasons why we didn't do this year which is a shame but hopefully next a deputy something. Everyone should experience bias. I've tried to explain to some of my guess. I'd say imagine the biggest fireworks show for the fourth of July or for New Year's Eve Times it by ten imagine imagine not happening fifteen times a day for the be pretty close to what bias is. It's an amazing extinction. Credit for it gets super busy. I think I was there three years ago. I I assume there is incredible. I mean I would say be prepared to be very very overwhelmed with crowds of people. It's difficult to navigate your way around the city 'cause they closed a Lotta streets barricades along the pavements in crossover streets very easily you're going to go up and down looking for a crossing point. I mean I've met with some friends to try and meet them at the bar and it took me. I could see them from where I was standing. But it took me about an hour to actually get to them because of the crowds and the barriers. So I think that's important to take into account and basically if you don't loud noise and big crowds forgetting also be prepared to put on about fifteen those ads about sleep because on a single street corner. They'll be chewed understands that his brother Statins for yellowstone bright publications and pretty much. Everything d tried. Since you know all the worst kind of food that can find a fun fair in the states or in England. Time's up by ten. 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Motoweek - Valencia MotoGP Test Show!

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Motoweek - Valencia MotoGP Test Show!

"From Moto dot net. It's the motor week podcast with your host Wilson. Why? Hello and welcome to Mota week. My name is Wilson. Thank you so much for listening to the only motor GP show on the internet that thinks that sixteen hours a motor GP testing is far more important than any black Friday bail out there. The show is a little bit later than normal because it is a big holiday weekend here in the United States. But I didn't care that. I was missing out on thousands and thousands of the best deals on the internet. The only thing that mattered this weekend was two days of testing in Valencia the two thousand nineteen MotoGP season officially got underway in the first postseason test new riders new teams so many questions heading into next year. And we started to get some of the answers to those questions Tuesday and Wednesday in Valencia now the entire second. Half of today's show is dedicated to nothing, but the Valencia test what the teams who are working on how I feel some of the top riders performed, and what we might be able to pull out of this first test session along with some top moments and performers as far as I was concerned, but we also have to wrap up our discussion on the two thousand eighteen season finale and Valencia which actually seems like about a month ago now because so much has happened since then we'll skip the rider comments from the GP in favor of the rider comments from the tests instead of but we will talk about your thoughts. And of course, my top five things from the season. Finale. We've also got some motor GP news to talk about plenty of stuff. In fact, it's a really long show. So let's get right to the rundown of actually before we get to the rundown real quick. If you haven't gone to the website yet check it out motor week dot net. All of the latest episodes are there. You can also follow along on Twitter at Moda, weak and most importantly head to the Facebook page. Facebook dot com slash motor week dot net. Do me a favor. Click the like button, right below Margot. Semen shell. I would totally appreciate it. And then join in the conversation. You can talk about anything you want to try to post a below the shows. But if you put it in the visitors come in section, that's fine too. I read them all and I try and get as many as possibly can on the show. This is a really long show. So I didn't get to every single one in apologize for that. But keep posting and I promise through the off season. We'll get to as many of your comments as a possibly can. So with that being said Facebook dot com slash mode week dot net. Go there post your comments. Let's get down to it the rundown for today's show, we will start with your Facebook comments. And you guys are already looking forward to the two thousand nineteen season. So we'll chat about what you had to say. Plus, I'll tell you everything you need to know about the motor GP dot com. Black Friday deal that's going on right now. I hope it's going to be going on the entire weekend. If I e too late or you listen to the show too late. I'm sorry about it. But right now, you can go to GP dot com and get offseason video pass for one euro, which is a heck of a deal. But there's some other stuff that goes along with it. So stick around I'll tell you everything you need to know. Then we'll do my top buy things from the Valencia GP will dive into some GP news maverick vanilla. Of course, changing numbers for the two thousand eighteen season. If you saw the Valencia test, you already know about that is Casey Stoner coming back to Honda. Oh, he might. But there's one person that absolutely does not want to see that happen. And he might be the only person who can prevent it from happening. So we'll chat about that. And enjoy a mere actually ran a secret motor GP test session that they didn't tell anybody about until after the year was done. I'll tell you why. It was a really smart thing for Suzuki to do that or up up the first half of the show, and we come back from the break. It is all about the Valencia test. The results the fourteen riders within one second of one another for the top of the time sheet. The teams what every single manufacturer brought to the test, and what they were trying to accomplish the top riders who impressed and also the guys who left the session scratching their head. And then my stars of the show for the. She attests. All right. So let's get things started. With your Facebook comments will kick things off with Mick who says, hey, it's only been a few days since the two thousand eighteen season already feeling empty inside. What do I do? Who make I've got the perfect answer. The two thousand eighteen season is the perfect answer. But the kind of perfect answer is keep listening to the show. Hopefully my goal during the offseason through the show in our conversations on the Facebook page is to make up for that empty feeling because we're all suffering with you. Don't worry we all want racing to start right away. But unfortunately, we gotta wait a little bit. I'm going to try to give you some help by breaking down the Valencia test action. And of course, we'll talk about plenty more in the next few weeks. We'll talk about what we saw in two thousand eighteen what to expect in two thousand nineteen and before you know, it Sapang guitar will be here. And then the seasonal be underway. So hopefully until then I can do my best to take a little bit of the edge off. Because like I said, I feel your pain. I mean, especially since this is typically the time of year when more people have the occasion where people have time off. Right. I mean, I know personally that I actually don't have to travel as much for work when nearly as much as I normally do although I do have one coming up in a couple of weeks. We'll talk about that. Later. So now is the time when I have the ability to sit down and watch it I want to see some racing, but we don't have any. But we can at least talk about it in as we'll chat about here in a minute. There is still the off season video pass, which can hopefully do a good job of keeping you watching racing until the actual racing comes back if that makes sense. So that was make let's move on the dusty and a first thanks for the compliment, dusty a really really appreciated a really do but does see marquess fan, and he's concerned by Marx pair of wrecks in Valencia and the obvious affected had on his shoulder, and he related it back to our conversation from a few weeks ago about how his ability Marquez how his ability to avoid the big wreck and subsequent injury is going to be a major factor in whether he can catch some Valentine a Rossi's career records. Now, the good news for you, dusty and all of the other Mark fans out there is that I don't think the shoulder dislocation thing is ultimately going to hold Mark back. Much. He's having the surgery to firm things up and keep it from popping out a place at random times. And after that, I think he's going to be one hundred percent back to his old insane risk-taking self and since the shoulder thing didn't directly come from a recent wreck emoji. I don't think it's going to affect the psyche. I don't think it's going to make him gun shy at all. But whenever you've got a guy that rides as far over the edge as Marc Marquez does something inevitably is going to happen to shake his confidence at least a little bit. Hopefully, nothing involving a big injury. But something is going to happen. They'll shake, you know, your confidence at least some, you know, nobody wants to think about that. But it's happened to every rider every successful writer to Valentine Harazi, Lorenzo Petrosian stone or MC doing they've all gone through that. And you know marks ability to avoid or prolong that near inevitability is going to be key to just how many wins. There are how many championships earn his career. And I think he's ability to shake it off from a psychological standpoint. If he does run into an issue like that is going to be just as critical, maybe even more important. I mean, we've seen Rogers before where they've been on top of the world. They have a big wreck. And then they just get gun shy. You know, I mean, they start to realize what they're doing out there, and what the potential consequences are, and then they back off just a little bit. And that's all it takes a motive GP is backing off just a little bit. And you could go from perennial champion to a guy who's, you know, fourth or fifth and still a top rider, but doesn't really have that edge. That's necessary to go out there and win races on a regular basis when the championship anymore. So those two things are going to be key for him avoiding that kind of wreck as long as possible in his career or totally in his career if it's possible. And then if he does have a big wreck then to be able to block that out and not let it affect how Gresley he goes out there and rides once he comes back. And that's a lot easier said than done dusty also mentioned that this was his first full season watching mo- GP. So congratulations on that. And. He's thinking of paying a little bit more attention now to Motoo motive three Amodeo next year. And I said, you should totally do it. I mean, it's hard. I admit it's hard to keep track of all of the talent coming and going from the lower classes, especially motive three. But even if you don't focus on the individual riders. I mean, just motor three alone. The racing is so awesome 'em with Chen on shoe coming on into the series of season. Who knows what we're going to win. It's, but I can guarantee you that there will be lots and lots of races that come down to the final turn to, you know, less than a tenth of a second separating the top three across the finish line. And so even if you're not quite sure who you're rooting for or not quite sure who's who you'll get used to it. And in the meantime, you're going to see some fantastic racing. And if you don't watch Motoo for any other reason, just watch it for the sound. I mean, thirty or more triumph triples, howling them the term one that's going to be worth it all by itself. And disclaimer there I do. Do have a triumph triple. So. I'm a little bit biased. But it's going to sound awesome. Even if I did no one. Then dusty since you do video pass to two ideas for the off season on either go back and watch the two thousand eighteen Motoo mode with three seasons or would I like to do with video pass in the offseason is go back and watch pass MotoGP since if you wanna gold school, you can head back to the days of you'll make do and Kevin Schwantz, but sincere Marquez fan if you haven't seen those races yet, maybe go back to two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen when Mark burst onto the scene and just absolutely dominated as Mark van you're bound to enjoy those races or you could actually go to two thousand fifteen watch out Sapang race. That would be a lot of fun. You might not like the outcome of that one as much though more like the rest of us who is shocked to see KTM land on the podium to wrap up the two thousand eighteen season. But also like most of us Morton is excited for the started two thousand nineteen and you know, once we get done with our discussion of the Valencia tests in the second half of the show, be sure to let me know what your initial impressions were of the tests on the Facebook page who you? Thought really, well, if there was anybody who jumped out to you, you might not agree with my opinion, or you might not have seen it at all. But if you go back and watch any of it and tell me what you think, but this year more than I agree with you. I'm really excited for two thousand nineteen as well because even more so than two thousand seventeen back then obviously we had four. Hey, Lorenza moving to do khadi. We have maverick fan y'all going over to Yamaha. And those were the two big stories and beyond that there wasn't a whole lot going on. I mean, yeah. Andrea donated Suzuki, I was really excited about it on many people many other people were on. But this season has so much going on not only with rider changes from Lorenzo and Zarko all the way down to you know, some of the the less famous writers. But in addition to that, we've got you know, manufacturer changes, we've got team changes. We've got the electron rules. So there's so much there that I think makes this preseason a lot more interesting than even what we saw a couple of years ago, and that's not to take anything away from the two thousand seventeen preseason. It was fascinating. Because almost everyone myself included. I thought the maverick Venezuela's from those test sessions was going to run away with the championship. And of course, we all know how that turned out which was not very well at all. So the two thousand seventeen preseason was pretty interesting, but me and this year, there's just so much going on. And of course, the one thing that Morton mentioned that I was disappointed. We didn't get to see him Valencia was Danny Padro. So in the KTM now, guess it was probably part of his deal with Honda that he wasn't allowed to move over right away. Although they were saying he was gonna ride in harass next week. So I know what the difference between Karez next week. In Valencia this week is maybe it was just the proximity to the actual season finale. But it's also possible the KTM simply didn't have enough bikes ready yet. I mean, they only have one two thousand nineteen bike for each for Miguel Olivera and Fabio quarrel. So maybe they didn't have enough to give him win The, Danny? But of course, if we learned anything in that test. It's the KTM needs to get Danny Pajaro, Saul on one of their bikes as soon as possible because they need all. All the help. They can get moving forward. I'm Morton also asked about test rider rules, and he said, hey, now that we have Yoenis fogerby Bradley Smith mckelway Pirro. Dani Pedrosa, all those guys and test rolls along with Mickey Kallio coming back soon. And I'll tell us in there Stefan brattle in the possibilities. We'll talk about in a few minutes of Casey Stoner being a test rider. And in his opinion. We could have a pretty good unofficial on our hands any given week. If those guys aren't bound to any testing limitations, and the answer is no there are no limits on test writers. There are limits on factory writers. But there are no limits on test riders. So if they wanted to yes, sure, they could definitely organize the session and go to head the head pretty much anytime they want now, obviously, the manufacturers don't always want to do combine sessions. There are a lot of times that they do private stuff. So they can hide what they're working on. But there are a fair amount of shared sessions with just test riders because they want to save some money running tracks for the day. So the going together, and so yeah, you can have those guys on a semi regular basis. Going at it. And obviously not racing each other. But at least comparing times to one another, you know, the big thing about the undeniable talent on all of those tests teams right now in all of the riders that we just mentioned is that we're going to see those guys bringing a seaman Sapang next year. We're going to see him in Qatar right before the season starts Bradley Smith is actually going to race in Qatar for Elliot and the other guys I don't think our maybe mckelway payroll. I don't know. But seeing all those guys in those test sessions, especially if Casey Stoner comes back, and then of course, we get any Pedro Petrosian their Yoenis Fulcher that's only gonna make us one. A see those guys back on track racing, again, even more especially for someone like Pedro, son. Of course, I'd always happens whenever Casey Stoner's involved with the test because he's never left. He always ends up being in the top ten top five. And then the talk starts will man. He's he's as good as anybody else. He could come back, and he's asked a million times. And a million times. He says, no, I'm not coming back. And unfortunately, sorry guys cases donors not going to race again ever. But. Same thing. I think is going to happen with Pedrosa, especially if he goes out there on the Cates. He em and he does better than all of the other kids Sam Rogers, which is a real possibility. I mean partially because he does have so much talent. He does have so much experience and he's not that far removed from regular fulltime racing. But also partially because he won't have nearly as much pressure on him as somebody like Johann Zarco ler. Pull a Spar grow to put up those types of results for those types of riders. Sometimes it comes very easily. And if it does and he scores higher than all of those riders on the time. She then inevitably he's going to start to be asked those same questions as Casey stone her. Hey, you know, yours good. As those guys you're better than those guys. Why don't you come back and full time in my guess is that we're going to get the same answer. No. I'm not gonna do it. Although I would contend that. Because Danny was considering that patrol and his team at one point that there is at least a little bit of a chance that he could be convinced to do a wild card racer to where stone or totally out of the question. Danny says it's out of the question. But hey, I mean cases donor wasn't thinking about going to another team when he retired. He just said I'm done. That's it. It's over. But obviously, it took Petrova weeks and weeks to decide if it was over which means I think there's just a little bit of a of a possibility there that we could see maybe near the end of the season, especially if these preseason tests go very well for him moving onto Peter. He said, hey, what the heck may have you to mention the rookie of the year on the Valencia post ratio. And you're absolutely right. I forgot I should have done it. When we talked about the points. Franko Morbidelli wins the rookie of the year competition by a slim four point margin over heavy siren two things when it comes to the rookie of the year competition number one credit where credit this dude have siren. I mean, the guy wasn't even supposed to be on that bike this year. And not only did he get that close four points away from the rookie of the year. But he ended two thousand eighteen with more points than three factory riders. Both apprently guys Ambrose Smith. Him. And if police boggle had not have gotten that podium, if you had nothing able to recover from that mistake you made in race number one would then he might have beaten out to entire factories. So I mean, here's a guy who a lot of people were thinking what the heck are they putting them on that bike foreign? I mean, he he handled himself very very, well, surprisingly, well, I think but the second Franken Morbidelli may have won the rookie title by just finishing fifteenth in the standings. But you gotta remember that was for a team Mark VS that was in turmoil all year long running old Honda's without proper funding. And you think about him as being a motive to champion. Okay. He's going to win the rookie of the year tied. But when you consider all of those circumstances surrounding him in two thousand eighteen he essentially willed his way to being the top rookie rider through sheer talent alone. And that says a lot about how good a variety. He really is. We already saw how much bigger his potential is going to be as soon as he got on that patrol despite this week. So don't worry, Peter. I will not be forgetting about Franken more. L E later on the show when we talk about this test because he was the one of the routers. I was most impressed with this week in Valencia Christie said is it just me or is where he Lorenzo's tests livery pretty awesome. And not only do I agree with you. Chris I already had it in my notes for the Vlad see a test before I read that comment. Those black and red leathers are fantastic. I mean, even better than the color matched black white scheme for the tech three riders which was pretty epic as well. I thought that what they did with Lorenzo looked even better than Andrea known as set up, which I'm sure a lot more time in thought and effort put into it. But it was kind of like they threw an entire clip art package at that scheme across the board. Bike helmet leathers was just a whole lot going on there. And so the see the simplicity of Lorenzo's livery that was awesome. And they use a super bright red that really popped on TV as well. As kind of like, this electric, read, some Chris, I thought it was awesome. We don't include the test schemes in the motor week awards for the best. Dery? But I mean, he actually could get a little tip of the cap there might be one of the honorable mentions that was Christie. Chris be wrapping up the comments wanted to remind everyone depending on when you're listening to the show. Hopefully, you're listening to while the deal still going that Moto g p dot coms. Black Friday deal is happening right now, you get the entire offseason, including the Sepangar Qatar tests, and what's going on in her as next week for one euro, that's it one euro that's a fantastic deal. And if you've ever consider video Pash, you've been a little afraid because a lot of money, you don't know what you're going to get it is the perfect way to check things out. 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I want to make sure we get it all in keep posting those comments Facebook dot com slash motor week dot net Leno which thought of the test if you're one of the offseason video passive scrubbers. Let me know what you thought for your one euro if you've got. Your money's worth. And anything else? You want to talk about is fair game as well. Let's wrap up our discussion of the Lindsay GP. Now before we move onto the news with my top five things from the season. Finale number one on the list absolutely has to be Chan on chew of fifteen year old winning the motor three race going away. He won the motor three race as a wildcard entry. I mean, who writes this stuff? It was an amazing story. It was a lot of fun to watch. Of course, if that wasn't enough then there's always number two on the list also involving KTM they get their first ever modo GP podium capping off an incredible unforgettable weekend for those guys. Pose bog row rods? The wheels off that thing and gets the Austrian factory. Exactly what they've been waiting for for such a long time since coming into GP. You know, I think the only person bummed about the fact that Paul got the podium was yawns ARCO probably because he wanted that first trophy for himself. So that was number two in my top five lists from Valencia. Number three do khadi wins emoji p race in Valencia. No, it was in the rain. But that doesn't make that much of a difference. Especially after what we saw on the test. Another Dukan victory at a non Dukakis track. A great boost for those guys heading into the off season. Number four, my top five list from the lengthy GP Suzuki continues to impress. They made the top five list. Probably the last four or five rounds. I think but they deserve. It mean they had two straight. Second place finishes for Alex rinse to close out the season podiums and five of the last six races for both factory routers. Combine you know, Suzuki is this close they are nearly ready to join the big three as podium Imre. Swing contenders. Just about every time out. They just have a little bit more to do in the engine department. So they're number four in the list. Rounding on my top five lists from the season finale and Valencia Yamaha tosses their chances out the window again two races to chances for valid. Tina Rossi to take the checkered flag in other one pans out. The upside is at the faster the downside is that they walk away with absolutely nothing to show for him. So the biggest surprise for me in this race definitely channel chew winning the mode with the kid was a blast on Saturday. He celebrated just qualifying if he had won the race. And then come back on Sunday in a field stacked with that much talent. And to beat them. All nobody really saw that one coming. Biggest disappointment for me. He came reasonably close, but Dani Pedrosa could not finish off his career with one more podium. I don't care who you are. That would have been a great story. If after going all season long, not getting on the podium, if you would've come the Valencia in front of all the hometown fans gotten Neo inducted into the hall of fame and then finish things off with that one last top three finish. He tried man. He wasn't too far off. But unfortunately, it wasn't meant to be for me. That was the big. Disappointment. All right. Let's move onto some motive GP news. A one of the biggest stories coming out of the Valenti weekend in between Sunday and Tuesday. When the test started maverick fan y'all is announcing that he was going to change his number. He goes from number twenty five to the number twelve now number twelve have been taken by Thomas Luther Luther, of course is not in a motor GP anymore. So that number was available MAB jumped over to get if he said it was number used when he was growing up, and it was a way for him to start over again. And of course, a way for him to sell a lot more merch. So I'm sure that Yamaha and complaining too much about the number changes. Specially if he takes off with the new number the way he did when he first came to the Amaha and after the first test session he's trying we'll have to see if it translates to better lock and more wins next season more success next season. Of course, if you're just a huge fan of the number twenty five in general, we can probably get some great stuff for half price right now moving on the joy MIR everybody thought that this was going to be his first opportunity to get on the Zouqi key. SX are are in this test of Lenzi. But it turns out over the weekends is Yuki said no here, it he had a shot at the MotoGP bike DVD Brivio confirmed that they had a private test session for their new rider at Motagua after the race paying, and I'll tell you that is a really really smart move on the part of Suzuki because remember they are losing their concessions for two thousand eighteen and because of that their factory riders aren't gonna have private tests at all Suzuki, just like Yamaha do Coty and Honda are limited to only the official open tests. No extra days sort things out. No extra time for MIR to get comfortable to get everything situated, and that kind of stuff getting acclimated to the bike and understanding what you're working with the begin with is very important and it takes time. And so putting them on a bike before he becomes an official rider is a fantastic opportunity because he's not bound by any testing limits at that point. He's not a fulltime writer. He's not even an employee under contract to them at that point. All they have to do is get permission from his current team, which obviously they did get and honestly wise Mark VDI gonna care. It's not like it's going to compete with them in the future. And so he gets this opportunity to, you know, get some basics on the bike to get setup. Organon worked out before getting the Valencia, and that's save them a ton of time that they otherwise would have had no other place to do it. But in that Lenzi attests. So I think it was a very good idea for them to do it. And that's all the stuff that veteran riders already have sorted out before they even start that testable NCO. So it was a very very wise move on the partisan cookie. The other rookies are really bound by that. Because those teams they they don't have the same rules apply to them when it comes to testing as the non-concessional factory teams do so if they need an extra test here and they're sitting get seat position. So without the pig sorta that well, that's fine. They can do that during Valencia or do that at some other time, but JoAnne MIR being. A factory rider. A fulltime factory rider. Does not have that opportunity. So smart move on Suzuki's part. And you'll I kind of wonder why there aren't different tests rules for rookies. Even if they're on a factory team because as far as I remember reading the rules. There are no special allowances extra lances for rookie riders that are on non concession factory teams, though, the rule the test applies to the team not the rider if I'm wrong about that. Then I'm sure you'll let me know on the Facebook page moving on Casey stone or could he come back to Honda as test driver? Well, there was at least one more sign over the Valencia test that it could could happen. Burto pooch was asked Pacific about Casey Stoner, and he was very very cagey as Honda people are known to be he pointed out, the fact that obviously case he's a very talented brighter in a very valuable router to Honda's. He brought the championship, but he stopped short of saying whether he would invite stone her to be a test rider for the organization, but there's one guy who could potentially block the entire deal. Does mark. Marquess one Casey Stoner to be a Honda test rider. Maybe not so much when he was asked in Valencia Mark pointed out that you know, if you wanna be a good test, you want to be a valuable test rider to your team you have to be available. Whenever the factory Mead you to test. And he said, I'm not so sure about this. But it doesn't seem like that was the case when Casey was test rider for Honda before. Now. Of course, he was right about that. He was very diplomatic about the way that he said it he said he was told that. But he he knows he knows how often Casey was testing with Honda. Then Mark went on the literally say, I'm happy with stuff on brattle in this role. We have a great test rider. Why do we need another one? Now does Mark have enough pull to Knicks donor? That's a very good question that I think we're gonna find out the answer to at some point or another seeing as Puig in case, you have a very good relationship. It could be a little bit of a power struggle that plays out behind the scenes now one way or the other. I don't think that Honda would actually get rid of stuff on brattle favor of stone her I think that they would just simply add Casey as an extra like Takada too because with Takada mckelway Pirro was the test rider. And then cases donor was you know, just there for show a lot of times he was very fast. And it was it was a good show. He was putting on. But it was kind of there for showy. They let him do what he wanted to do. And I think that that would be the case with Honda as well. And that's very interesting because it does nothing to dispel the idea that stone or is the very poster boy that he said he didn't want to be do Coty and with. Getting too much into keystone or his whole approach to everything. Because obviously, he's a very polarizing figure always has been a motor GP that was one of his main complaints. He said, hey, Takada, not listening to me. And I don't want to just go around being a poster boy for them if I'm going to be employed as a test drive or I want them to take me seriously. But then he would only show up a couple of times a year and test the bike. So, you know, he's saying one thing, but then he's asking them to allow him to do another thing. And my guess is if he hooks up with Honda it's going to be exactly the same situation. He's not going to win a test. You know, fifteen weekends a year. He's going want to test three or four weekends year. But then he can't go. You can't go round. When you get that kind of a deal. You can't go around and say don't want to be a poster boy because if you're saying don't wanna test when you wanna test when test only when I feel like it, then, you know, the only reason you're being employed is to be a poster boy because you're very very famous very prominent. And they want your name attached to their products. So L when one. Hand Mark just might want to eliminate the extra background noise. That comes with cases toner being part of your organization, but on the other in his teammate next year is going to be where he Lorenzo. So, you know, what's one more ego floating around the garage gonna hurt. So I don't think it matters one way or the other really I mean, I don't think that Casey Stoner being attest rider is going to hurt Honda or Mark for that matter. Now how much it's going to help is up for debate. But I think it would help at least saw them. I mean cases donors, mentally talented. And you know, he's got some sort of positive help that he can offer. And when you think about it cases donors writing style, very very similar to Mark marquess. I would think it could only help Mark in that respect. Even if he is only testing a couple of times a year. No does a couple of preseason. Tests, Chuck's in his opinion. Maybe they come up with something that actually helps Mark going forward. I think that he has a much better chance of helping Marquez then he has coming up with something that would help or hey, Lorenzo because you're just too dry. Testily different styles of riders every bit as much as Lorenzo and Mark are drastically different styles of riders. All right. So we're up of the first half of the show when we come back from the break. It is all about the Valencia tests. If you didn't have sixteen hours to sit around and watch every single minute of it with don't worry. That's what I'm here for. We'll talk about what every team brought to the table and was trying to accomplish. We'll talk about the major riders and how they did. And then I'll give you my -pinion on the stars of the show in the first two thousand nineteen tests. So don't go anywhere the ground. There's more coming up on the week podcast. Welcome back to motor week money. Is wilson. I'm your host. Thank you so much for listening. I really do. Appreciate it. Also, thanks to the volume remote for the music during the break. If you want to check out more from TV are head to the Facebook page. Facebook dot com slash the volume remote. Get all the details on the new EP that's out right now on itunes and Spotify. So thanks to Paul lightness used the music. All right. So first half of the show. We talked about your comments. I'm wrapped up our discussion of the Lenzi GP the last race of two thousand eighteen now it's time to focus on two thousand nineteen. Oh, yeah. The von see attests, sixteen hours of Moto GP goodness. The bad news is it's definitely the last live coverage. We're gonna get into thousand eighteen Steve said in the booth that next week says test will definitely not be broadcast live on MotoGP E dot com. They're just going to be doing the updates like they for some of the tests last year and just like I said last year guys. Available and willing. So if you wanna fly me over there, I will gladly sit in her as and talk mindlessly for sixteen hours. It's one of the things I'm best added sitting in a room and talking nobody. So we have plenty to watch. It. Let's see though. And plenty the talk about let's start with what each manufacturer was working on the first of two thousand eighteen then we'll move onto the rider's. But we gotta talk about the results to before. We get started a couple of things. Okay. These tests times in all honesty. Don't mean, a whole lot mcgahee got rotter. Switching teams you've got rookies getting used to Queant everyone is on a specific schedule for various different types of components and parts and setups. A little of what we see at this point the first test for two thousand nineteen is gonna give us a really clear idea of who's making progress in whose fast heading into Qatar next season. But those numbers that get released on the time. She is. All we have to go by and let's face it. A lot of guys were trying to put in a good laugh at the end of this test. And because of that the numbers aren't completely irrelevant. I mean, we could still get some idea of how everyone is doing by looking at them. Plus, it's just a lot of fun. Drought. Inclusions no matter how tenuous from test result. So why not and because so many writers were just getting acclimated? The first day I'm going to reference the overall speed chart for the fastest laps. But really when we get down to the runs of each of the writers and everything we're going to concentrate on day two when they were more use everybody was a little bit more used to what they were working with and most guys were working with two thousand nineteen equipment. So with that being said, that's the disclaimer. So don't get mad at me on the Facebook page say just testing numbers. I get it. I trust me. I know let's move onto the results and the amazing thing for me when looking at just the top times from this test is that so many writers were still so close. Now, I don't know how much. Of that is attributable to the spec. I'm you, but in all honesty, I don't think we're anywhere near being far enough down that road to know what kind of impact it's really going to have nor do I know how many teams were actually using that spec. Acquit from start to finish. Maybe maybe they weren't. But with so many riders changing teams. Plus, you've got you know, the patrol guys coming in. You've got the whole KTM situation was so much change going on in the paddock. I was shocked to see so many riders still so close together. Fourteen riders were within one second of the top time that time was maverick fan, y'all with one thirty seven five seven, then you've got Andrea video second-fastest he was point one three three seconds back that Marquez was third. Best point one five four back. These guys all within two tenths of a second. Jack Miller fourth-quickest point one eight to back then everybody else was outside of tents back in a cheap theft. Franken Morbidelli his debut in that patrol. Spike was six. Alex rinse seven Takenaka, gummy eighth Valentino Rossi ninth aleisha Spago in the appropriate tenth Petco. Bag ni- rookie making his debut on the back. Coty eleventh, fastest point six four eight seconds behind McDonnell is who Lorenzo and his debut on the Honda was twelve point two seven back than Paul Spargo in the KTM thirteenth, and then another rookie enjoy mere making his debut on this Zouqi, fourteenth quickest point nine five seconds inside of one second behind maverick than y'all is best time in this test. So you've got rookies in there. You've got veterans. You've got guys moving the new teams guys with their old teams and every single one of those fourteen riders was within that close to one another. I mean that is how much talent there is emotive GP right now. And that's how the smallest differences can make the biggest impact on who wins a race who finishes on the podium. Heck who just barely makes it? Side the points in the top fifteen you know. So it really is impressive. The amount of talent right now emoji. They're talking at the very end of the second day of the broadcast about that. And saying, you know, this might be one of the most talented motor GP fields. We have coming the two thousand eighteen that we don't really know that yet because we don't know how these four rookies are really going to pan out, but it is looking very much like we could have one of the deepest fields from top to bottom mostly because Mark VDI doesn't exist anymore and notice respect, but they weren't very organized this year, and they had all bikes and then on top of that as far as gone as well and again, same situation, not terribly organized. Not terribly well-funded didn't have the best bikes. Those guys are both gone. Because of that Takada has the ability now to give everybody their GPA teams GP nineteenth. So not no more to euro bikes on the grid anymore. And then you've got thrown is coming in that has a fantastic two thousand nineteen Yamaha and the two thousand eighteen Yamaha. So. So as far becoming this great Yamaha team. And then we get rid of the worst team in the garage. And all of the Dakota teams kind of the water kinda rises to carry them up a little bit across the board. So it might be one of the deepest fields. We've ever had emoji p both in terms of writer talent and in terms of quality of bike as well. All right. But I'm getting I'm getting off track here. Let's get back to the test itself. Let's talk about the manufacturers. What did each of the factories bring out to this test? What were they hoping to accomplish? Let's start with Honda and Honda have multiple interruptions of the RCB to thirteen on hand for Marquez. And surprisingly for Hillary was well, unlike all of the other manufacturers, those guys not only have multiple two thousand eighteen engine specs to try, but they also had different chassis configurations to go along with those other Motors, and that's an important part of the process. It's changing the engine characteristic kin most certainly upset the chassis. You gotta meet those two gether make sure they work perfectly. There's no way to know for sure. But it seemed. Like Honda had the most options of any of the manufacturers for the raiders, which would make sense since they also had the most time to start focusing on two thousand nineteen with the championship enhancer early on if you were watching it seems like the Mark Marquez bike with the black fairing, and the number was the initial two thousand nineteen bike that they've tested earlier this year and the one without the ninety three on the nose was the newest spec bike for him. And where he Lorenzo also had three versions of the Hondas. Well, presumably two thousand eighteen and two versions the same two versions of the two thousand eighteen bike as Mark. It was a bit harder to tell which was which since they were all outfitted exactly the same just all black with ninety nine on the front, and you know, the debate will rage on us to whether those guys were holding bag whether they weren't one hundred percent, or maybe they were and they just didn't, you know, post the best times of one way or the other Honda is that a more Vance stage of development than anybody else right now because we'll talk about Yamaha and a second they're focused on the engine. We'll talk about Coty right here next. They were focused more on the chassis. But Honda was already to the point where they were taking specific Motors and specific chassis and putting them together. And that means that they're one literally one step ahead of where pretty much everybody else's right now. So once those guys are at one hundred percent, they should be able to take full advantage. Takada was a little bit harder to pay in this one because they reportedly had their full two thousand eighteen version of the bike available for testing, but debates are dot C cast at least a little bit of a shadow of doubt over what indeed was going on on the track. He said on Wednesday that Danilo Patricia was riding a GP eighteen and remember this is coming straight from Tardati that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me because that was the bike. He was riding all the season. Why would they want him to test on you know, when with the factory paint job as opposed to pray paint job? I mean might be a little different but not that much. He said that mckelway Pirro was definitely on a two thousand nineteen spec. Does Mosad Ichi and that Andrea divots Llosa was on a near to the. Thousand nineteen bike. Now that might be the way they all started the test. But I'm pretty sure that they weren't preventing their two full-time writers from getting on the full two thousand nineteen spec. Bike especially since over at pray MAC. Jack Miller was saying yes, I am on GP nineteen and he was raving about the thing. Especially the latest version of the seamless transmission. So I think that that might have been a little bit of an effort by Tardati just throw a little bit of a smokescreen up. I think they were all writing two thousand nineteen spec. Bikes. One thing is certain though, do Qadi was definitely working on a new chassis. Even tar Doty would confirm that that's very good thing since resting their laurels from two thousand eighteen and even from Valencia is not going to be enough. If do Coty wants to keep up with Honda next year. So despite what tired OT might have said when you look at the times both the individual best lap times. And then the runs in the fact that we know for a fact Jack Miller was writing GP nineteen and Dovy and Patry were so close to him. I think they were all on the. GP nineteen by the end of this test and for a majority of the test. Let's move on the now because both of their riders made it very clear coming into this test. What their goal was for Valencia the motor? It was all about the motor. And absolutely nothing else. And the engineers from iota brought along two different interational of the two thousand eighteen motor to go. With the two thousand eighteen version that the ended the season with now the first of the two engines was pretty much the same spec that they tested near the end of this season. But the second version kinda took the idea a step or two further and maverick than y'all is used both to great effect setting the fastest time on the two thousand nineteen engine day. One the first ration- of the two thousand eighteen engine on day one and then topping the time sheets with the new spec motor on day, two Yamaha, boss Lynn, Jarvis said in an interview during the tests that their only goal at Yamaha in this session was to come to a conclusion on engine direction decision that would then be confirmed in her as before moving onto. Chassis and suspension and Sapang of next year and considering that engine character was cited at the end of this season by both factory riders as the primary reason that Yamaha was struggling. I think that's definitely the best direction to go even though maverick fan. Yellow said they really didn't make a decision coming out of the test because of the rain on day one. And then the cold conditions at the beginning of day to can limited their track actively to the point where they hadn't one hundred percent decided so they're going to decide in her as then they're gonna continue from there. Now, meanwhile, over a patrol Innis of Franken Morbidelli was definitely on two thousand nineteen spec. Bike presumably with the first the test version of the two thousand eighteen motor. I don't know if he got to try the newest one and then Fabio quarrel was one hundred percent on a two thousand eighteen m one and will remain on that bike for all of next season. Their new test rider, though, Yoenis folder was also running only two thousand eighteen equipment in the session. Lynn Jarvis said they just wanted to get him used to things he'll start testing. Out new parts once they feel like he's gotten fully acclimated to the bike and how it rides. So that's what Yamaha was up to now when it comes to Suzuki they were a little bit of a quandary in this test. As far as I was concerned because I like most people figured there was no way they weren't going to have their two thousand nineteen engine in the bike for the test. I mean after all they had already tested it ad nauseam with Sylvan Gwyn Tolley. And even ran it in his wild card race in Japan. Raved about the new power plant back then but Neil Spalding who was on the door broadcast. Second day was absolutely fantastic. It was fascinating to listen to by the way, if the shipping for that book was not so incredibly expensive. I would already have it. I'm considering getting it one way or the other because the guy's a genius, but he said in all seriousness that Bo sukey riders including Alex Rens were running the two thousand eighteen bike. And it was kinda backed up by the numbers at least on the front stretch. Where those guys weren't posting any higher speeds on the test bike than they were. Over the race weekend. Now, I wasn't quite sure I totally bought into that that they were just two thousand eighteen bikes. And then it turns out Alex is gonna back me up here in a minute, especially considering both Zouqi riders including JoAnne MIR where within a second Mavericks in yellows for the fastest time in this test. They might not have had the full on two thousand eighteen chassis. But I'm ninety nine point nine percent certain action on one hundred percent certain that they did have two thousand nineteen motor probably just in two thousand eighteen frame which made at the two thousand eighteen bike from all outward appearances, even the what was under the hood had a little bit more shove to it which as rinse again. We'll tell us in the second was actually a little bit of a problem on their end. Now, one of the things that we talked about last season when it comes to our next team in KTM is they were constantly constantly in two thousand seventeen throwing parts at the bike so much. So that kind of wondered back then if they were doing a little too much and potentially confusing the situation by overwhelming both the factory and test. Writers which just so many options that they couldn't possibly come up with one that was the perfect combination unless they did it by accident. Well, they once again showed up with a literal truckload of parts for this test. But according to Steve Lightner pit buyer who were on the show over there. Casey. I'm even though they had all of those parts essentially what they were the only with was the two thousand eighteen spec. Bike main change being the motor which had already run at the end of the season and their whole idea. Here was to not confuse the new writers by throwing too many parts of the bike that they wanted to make smaller judgments from here on out, even though they had those parts of able they weren't necessarily planning on using them. And I think that's the right way to go. Especially considering you've got this new team tech three don't wanna confuse those guys you've got Zarko coming over Paul Spago is the only baseline Roger that they had there. And let's face. It pulled had just come off of a great ride in Valencia. The last thing he wanted to do is upset what he had going by checking a bunch of parts at the bike and all of the. Drives including those three routers v. Sirena Miguel Olivera got the two thousand nineteen spec. Bike what they did with it. We'll talk about that in the minute. It wasn't the best obviously. But at least we're being realistic and not saying, okay, we need to be at the top of the time. She were not will just start throwing parts of the bike until we get there because it was found not happen. The gotta get these guys comfortable in the bike first before they make a step forward. So unfortunately for them, they have no choice, but to take one step back to take a big leap forward, then the final miniature apprecia-, and as usual they were lagging a bit behind overall. But at least they did come with the bike that reflected some real two thousand nineteen changes which were actually rolled out a couple of races back and lead to some very encouraging performances by Alicia Spargo in the final part of the season. Now, it appears that Andrea Nina went straight to the bike with the two thousand nineteen changes to start to get a handle on the situation. I'm basing that mostly on his comments, but I'm not one hundred percent, sure. While Bradley Smith was definitely on two thousand eighteen equipment to get himself acquainted to the character of the bike in the general character of the engine, and then police Spago was riding a livery bike that was probably the one he used in the two thousand eighteen season finale, but there's a really good chance that it came out of the truck before the race weekend with all of the latest stuff that probably has on offer for two thousand nineteen. Maybe they brought a couple of extra things for him to try out as well. So those were all of the manufacturers they brought to the test and what they were trying to accomplish. Now, let's talk about the riders starting with Marc Marquez, and we'll kind of go team by team here through some of the top teams says why we're starting with Mark because I want to start with Honda and Mark may not have led the way in this test. But you've gotta remember that he really wasn't at one hundred percent after you know, dislocating his shoulder twice over the course of the race weekend. The goal gopher him was to find a definite direction for two thousand eighteen and to that end as I mentioned the few minutes ago, they were testing Eng. Chassis combos which already put them ahead of the game. Compared to everyone else in the paddock who was pretty much working on one or the other. But not both at the same time considering the Mark was a little banged up. I think overall the session went great for him and Honda. He tossed in a decent number of excellent laps in the mid one. Thirty one range he was a touch behind maverick overall. But they were testing a lot of stuff. I mean at one point at the end of day two they were literally going back and forth between the two iterations of the two thousand eighteen bike running four laps. Someone for laps on the other back and forth and back and forth. So you've got to take that into consideration. While he might have been a little bit slower was he hindered a little bit by the shoulder. Yeah. I would say so, but I would think it was alternately affecting more in terms of endurance as opposed outright speed with one caveat when it comes to endurance him run a whole lot of laps either day, and he normally is at the top of the board in that respect. Then when it comes to performance, I think he was able I think he was capable of pushing harder and. Matching maverick Daniela's. But after the test after day two of the test he said that the team told him under no circumstances was he to go out there and wreck and hurt himself even worse. So he wasn't definitely not able to push his heart as I think he wanted to. And that was probably the difference between him a maverick vanilla 's in this test. But once he's back in one hundred percent after the shoulder surgery. I'm outta djing that Mark will both be logging his normal number of laps and he'll easily be able to keep pace with whatever. Mad and the Qadis can throw at him. You know, Mark may not have quote, unquote, one this session per se. But I think that really he and Honda were both probably very happy with what they gotta -ccomplish. And I think he's fine shape heading out of this test. Now, obviously all eyes were on the other Repsol Honda rider in this test with hey, Lorenzo forced to ride a bike devoid of any identification beyond his number ninety nine and the like we were talking about in the first half of the show. His leathers looked fantastic. Tastic black with that electric red theme and carried over to the bike. It looked super sharp and his performance on the bike may not have been as impressive as leathers. But it wasn't all that bad either. I mean, he certainly didn't turn any heads nothing or shattering happened on track. But you have to remember he was simply getting used to the bike any multiple specs to get used to. So I wasn't really expecting a whole lot for him the land just outside the top ten was maybe a few spots lower than I thought he would be. But also didn't expect there to be fourteen writers within a second of the leader with so many new rider bike combos out there. So really to be nine tenths of a second off the pace in this first outing not so bad about where I expected them run. I figure to be like seven or eight tenths off the pace. If I'm being perfectly honest and keep him on to just like Marquez poor is not a one hundred percent, and even knowing that or maybe despite of that Honda also had three different variants of the bike for Lorenzo. Garage. Just like they did for Mark, you know, two thousand eighteen a couple of specs two thousand nineteen to choose from one did have a magic tank on it, by the way. And even though I'm sure that he wasn't quite on the same schedule as Mark. I think it was probably more up to him to decide when he wanted to switch over to the newer equipment, and he did ride both the second and third bike Sunday to this not only I think was an okay test for Lorenzo in terms of times. I think it was a bit of morale and ego boost for Lorenzo that Honda trusted him enough right out of the gate to give feedback on the newest stuff that they have. So. Yeah, it wasn't a shock the world debut that I'm sure he wanted. But who I think is on the right schedule and heading in the right direction. So I think it was a bad test firm at all even though it wasn't nearly as good as what we saw out Marquez, obviously. All right. So let's move over to Qadi and Andre video. So in the was quite good for Dovy with one caveat, which will go into in a second. You know, even if this was just the first test, I think Dovy Santa signal, right? Off the bat in this one that both he and do khadi are serious about taking the fight the Honda at their best tracks. I mean think about this wherever lengthy there's no more rain. It's dry track conditions Dovy still goes second-fastest, and is one of only six riders to get into the one thirties in the test and by doing so I think he at least partially answered the only lingering question from the season finale as far as the does most itchy was concerned. Did they only win because it was raining, and obviously it was a slightly different bike with different parts testing different chassis. But based on what we saw in the dry in this test. It wasn't a mistake that they won that race in the rain. And if it had been dry, maybe one of one, but they certainly would have been competitive or close to being competitive. So I would say that dove sleep leap to almost the top of the time chart seemed to reinforce that the gains that they made over the second half of two thousand eighteen in terms of corner speeding handling are indeed set to continue. And I think that such a strong performance not just by Dovy. But also by Jack Miller. And by Danilo, pitchy, reaffirmed or affirmed at least partially that the latest chassis revision is at least taking them one step further toward that same goal of being better in the corners. His performance was a great way to backup Sunday's win. And I think it was the right way to move forward from under the shadow of the very brief Lorenzo era at Takada that they're going to be okay without him. You know, there was only one thing for me though that tarnished Dovy stay, although it was omitted -ly, not a bad thing. But believe it or not dough. These new team-mate Danilo pitchy was faster on day two. I know what you're doing right now, you're looking at some sheet saying, no, you've got this all wrong Dovy was a head. Well, yeah when it comes to overall fastest lap. Yes. Andre the video. So was ahead. Andre fastest lap was just under a tenth ahead, which is not that bad in its own right of Pacheco. But when you look at the analysis, and you break down the runs and the lap times from the second day Patricia was exit. Int he had several multi-lap runs in the mid one thirty one range and more laps overall in the one thirty ones, then even Andre video. So hadn't backed on day two Patry was pretty much a tenth or so ahead of dole the across the board. Save for that slap where they were within a tenth of one another. But just with Andrea ahead, and this is not a bad thing. And I'm sure that Andre video so is not upset about this at all and on the other side of the equation. This is exactly the kind of start that Danila Pechiney needed to this campaign. I mean, he's on that one year contract expectations are very high on both sides and not only does patrol go out there and get comfortable and faster over the test. But he was also consistent and built a ton of momentum on the GP nineteen. You know, just a land top five on the time. She loan was good enough. But they had those consistent and consistently fast. Runs on top of that. I think it was pretty much the perfect start to his tenure with the factory squad. Whether you can keep it. That's a whole different story. But at least for now the Nilo stepped up to the challenge, even though it was very quiet because he wasn't on top of the time-sheets. And he wasn't you battling back and forth with those guys at the top of the timesheets. But when you look at that lap analysis, he did a fantastic job throughout the day. And speaking perfect starts tastic jobs throughout the day. What about maverick Vigna? Liz. I mean, he looked great in this test. And it did go beyond just that fast lap on either day, you know, Matt said coming into the weekend. How much he was looking forward to getting to work on the two thousand eighteen engine then after day one? He said, whoa, man. I'm really happy with the progress that we've made and he landed on top of the time sheet, but the rain Tuesday prevented him from trying out the latest I've Lucien of the motor. So didn't get the trout the second two thousand eighteen motor while he did get that opportunity on day two. And guess what not only did he put himself above the rest of the field again. But he was consistently fastest across the board. Lots of low one thirty ones on Wednesday and even as one. Thirty two laps were in the low one thirty two he rarely even straight outside of one thirty two at all on serious lapse that he was running and the really great thing. Both he and Valentine Rossi for that matter who didn't have nearly as good day. We'll talk about him in the second. But both those guys were posting very good times in sector four. And if there's a chance that they will be suffering from lots and lots of rear wheel slip. It would definitely be on that gigantic turn thirteen into the final corner. And then getting driving the front stretch. Now, we'll really get a better picture when they're in spanks year because obviously the track layout lends itself more to those hard acceleration braking zones and the track conditions weatherwise will be much more to their liking to try to replicate their problems. But the initial signs are good sector one was neck right from. But that was mostly just because the was giving up quite a bit a top speed to the Dakota at the end of the front stretch. I don't really think they care too much about that right now because sector four was really good the twisty bits and sector too. Was really good where they should be decent. Anyway, mave was overall happy with the test and should be because it looks so far like Yamahas at least made a step in the right direction in terms of a workable engine solution, and solving those problems now, of course, we're talking mostly about short runs here on newer tires or lately use tires, and we all know that the end of the race is where the struggles the most, and that's really where Valentino Rossi's main concerns resided after this test. He didn't make as much progress as Vigna listed on to. And it's easy to see him his lap times which were inconsistent overall. And generally centering around like say the mid one thirty two's valley did say too many things after the test. First thing is that the peso more in tires as far as he was concerned still seems to be suffering a bit. There were still having wheelspin. The second thing is to him the two different specs of two thousand eighteen engine. Didn't feel all that different. Now that last. Part is something that we've heard from him before late last season. He kind of had the same opinion when it came to the two thousand eighteen engine compared to the first spec two thousand nineteen unit. So you know, you could read that as bad news. But I would say if there is some good news here. It's that. I don't think you'll get into too much of an argument with maverick if they aren't unanimous in their engine decision after her as, you know, once one woman, the other, you know, Valentino thinks that there's not that much difference between the two that could kind of buoyed a little bit of a catastrophe as pose. But it's also interesting how different their demeanor was not surprising. But interesting I mean maverick is always seems to express his emotions a bit more vocally bit more openly than the doctor, and he seemed very upbeat very optimistic. Very happy about the test where Rossi by comparison was quit subdued and was a lot more cautious about potential progress that they've made and the fact that they both had those different. Demeanor. They both had those different appearances in front of the camera. That's bound to open up the debate. Again, you know, the whole who's driving the direction of the team thing, you know, leading the more speculation of some sort of at the ongoing power struggle between Valentino Rossi, and whoever isn't Valentino Rossi for whatever team. He happens to be racing for the time know, personally, I don't think that exists at least not in the extreme manner that the media and the message boards would like to present it to you. Maybe it's their some, but not a whole lot. I mean, those guys just aren't that drastically different in writing style. Not nearly as much as say like, hey, Lorenzo and Marc Marquez or under the video and healer Enzo, and they essentially have been saying the same or very very similar things all year long when it comes to what's needed to go forward on the bike move forward on the bike. So I don't necessarily think that's really there. But that's just me. And I guess we'll see her is how much further they progress. And if the teammates can get any closer and overall performance times that they can come to some. Agreement together on the direction of the engine without getting into some sort of fistfight, which I'm sure the media would love. So that's what's happening over Yamaha. One router had a spectacular test. The other one not so much then we get this Zouqi, and we'll start with Alex rance who as promised earlier did solve one of the nagging questions of the test. What exactly was is key running? And he kinda confirmed some of what Neil Spalding said most of what Neil Spalding said. But then they did change things at the end of the test. He said that they were running the two thousand eighteen everything two thousand eighteen until the second half of day to then they moved over to the two thousand nineteen engine Amran said he actually said a faster time on the two thousand eighteen power plant. Apparently, the new motor has more power more straight line speed, which was easily noticeable Byron's. But it's just a matter of putting that power to the pavement and the current motor still does a better job. So they still have some work to do when it comes to the two thousand nineteen power plant, but they do need to get that done. Because I mean if. Stick with the two thousand eighteen stuff. It's not a big deal. I mean rinse was still able to put up decent laptops, with the two thousand eighteen setup and that would likely be true of harass as well. But if the two thousand nineteen motor isn't ready for primetime yet, then they've gotta get it there because they're going to lag further and further behind as the other teams are making Vance -ment. So it's incredibly important for them to get that engine to have the same characteristics. As it does right now with more power because that's the final step. I really think in them being competitive. I mean, the by candles great. We all know that. But they're giving up far too much top end the Honda into Coty. So right now, the look competitive at horizon look competitive, if they don't get that engine figured out, then it's a paying they're gonna start to fall a little bit behind. Then once it gets a Qatar. They're gonna have no chance of winning. I mean, it could be competitive, but I don't think they'd have chance of winning unless they have more power to stay close on that front stretch instead of getting the live. And I mean, they could be a team that just focuses on the twist your tracks. But heck if they've got the ability to make. Extra horsepower. Which obviously they do. Then those guys it's secure far clever enough to be able to figure out how to get that power to the ground more effectively and make them more competitive. And once they do get to that point the man, I cannot wait to see what Joe Amir can do with that bike. You know, MIR wasn't all that high on the timesheets in this test. And he wasn't even the fastest of the rookies. But boy did he do a fantastic job for his first official time out his lap chart on Wednesday must have been music to Suzuki's ears or buys or whatever you wanna make that analogy every room was consistent, and he got better and better throughout the day. He started in the low to mid one thirty three's. Then all the sudden he was in to the one thirty two. And then he went all the way down to the one thirty one before coming back up into the very low and thirty to finish out the session. I mean, you can ask for anything more consistency improvement. Good speed. I was a little skeptical. About MIR on that bike after he didn't take off last year modo too. And I don't know what's going to happen long run. But the initial impression for me of Joe Amir on that bike was excellent. I thought he was one for me is one of the best riders in this test considering what he was starting with and where he ended up. I thought he did a phenomenal job. I mean, really another guy did a phenomenal job back over to do Qadi the last rider on a GP nineteen in this test was Jack Miller, and while his reaction on the final day of the test was a bit more restrained than what we got out of on Tuesday. His lap times were definitely caused for excitement on both days. Miller was thrilled on day one after hopping onto the GP nineteen for the first time raving about the transmission, the smooth power delivery. He continued to be optimistic on day two and not only was his fastest lap time right up there with factory guys. He was right in between Dovan and Petrosky. But he was also turning in some really good lapsed during his runs that were right there. With his defacto teammates as well. In fact, if you put all three sets of numbers next each other with no names associated with them and said, you know, which ones were which was Miller, which ones were the factory riders. It would have been pretty hard to figure out. I mean, the only tip off that I would think is Jack was a little bit more inconsistent than either Andrea or Danilo, but overall he showed similar speed. That's a great time for him great Sanford Takada integrate time for prime especially considering how strong started last year. He's got even more confidence going into this season. Well, then he can make a little bit annoys on that primarily Coty moving onto his teammate though. And Petco back ni- man as much as joy MIR impressed me in this test. I came away with nearly as good of an impression about Petco. You know, he wasn't nearly as consistent as mere was. But he was also working with a euro bike for satellite team. And when you take that into consideration, he did a fantastic job so much. So that by the end of the second day, they were already making changes to. And improve the front end feel of the bike forum. So I think anything beyond just him getting acclimated is icing on the cake for everybody involved. So for bag nyah to get beyond that stage and say, okay, let's start working on feel it starting this bike work for meal a little bit more that along with the fact that he merely landed a top ten time to Cadiz got to be thrown because that's a great baseline for him to start from. So then we go from a rider or riders that definitely impressed onto one that. Well, wasn't really impressed at all before we actually talk about. Andrea no-name what he did on track. Does anyone know if he employs a PR person at all because if he doesn't he really needs to get one. And maybe have that PR person do all of his interviews for him because Andre is doing himself no favors in front of his new employer. I can't remember a rider doing interviews where they seemed more indifferent as to what was going on especially not a writer in their first time. Out with a brand new team. That's paying them a lot of money. I mean, maybe he was just trying to play down because he wasn't supposed to be talking about the bike a whole lot. In fact, that's what I thought after the first day after his interview on the first day. I thought oh, maybe Suzuki's got him under contract. They're telling me can't talk about the bike. Just like halo Renzo was not allowed to talk about the Honda. But then on the second day, he was asked what are the differences between the two thousand eighteen and two thousand nineteen apprecia- any talked about him, and he gave his impression of the bikes. So he obviously either wasn't banned from talking about the bikes didn't care if it was banned which doesn't explain day one at all. Because especially in his interview on the first day. He seemed completely disinterested. Completely uninvolved in generally annoyed when giving his post race comments really both days that applied to and any goodwill that he might have built up on day. One was then tossed aside on day to where he wrecked bike twice and both times. After the wreck you just kinda. Stood there and stared at the bike like, it'd just kicked his dog or something. I mean, if this is a precursor to hell the known a probably relationship is going to progress the season, then we may very well end up with a Sam Lowes version two point oh this year. And but he'll get far less sympathy. You know, and I'm not quite sure I would blame yet to be honest. I mean, I think you donate is immensely talented. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to dog on Andre, you know. And he's been he's been piled on enough by everybody else. But you can't take that attitude on day one. This isn't meat criticizing him bringing it on himself. I mean, we all know he wanted to stay with Zouqi. We all get that he left at just the right time when they were starting to get really good. But that's not the situation now. So if you're Andrea you can't go out and pow about it from the jump. I mean, especially when teammate Alex Fargo is eight tenths of a second faster on the same exact bike and on top of that you don't finish below three. Three three rookies on the time she'd as well as Tita robot who couldn't even walk to his motorcycle. And he was faster than ondre. You know? So you can't both go out there and perform like that on the bike. And then come back impound about it in front of everyone and kinda make it seem like you were forced in the situation that you're giving this terrible bike to ride. I mean, especially when he said just this year how he feels like he's an excellent development rider. Well, now's the time to get developing. That's what they hired you for. They'll just stare into the camera with this blank face. Like you're being forced to be there. My gosh, come on man, hire a PR person. That's all I gotta say. So the prized as I was about how despondent Andre know. It wasn't this test. It really is comical if you didn't go if you watch the test, and you do have video pass go back and ask Ford to the end of the day. The Andrea Nonni interview sessions, the there are really weird. But as surprises, I was about how the sponde- it. Andrea was I was equally surprised with Franken Morbidelli in exactly the opposite way Franko telling you looked downright fantastic on the patrol Yamaha considering the entire situation. And I know that the has obviously far better by gets two thousand nineteen bike. It's a far better than the ancient Honda. He was riding with Mark VDI. But really this was a brand new team. This wasn't tech three that was Morphing over to patrol us. It wasn't a retail of everything it asked bar. I mean, they were new from the bottom up and then in their first test session ever working with the factory. That was supplying current year. Modo GP bikes to a satellite organization for the first time ever Morbidelli goes out there and post the top six time. Now his runs were a bit inconsistent. And they hovered kind of in the mid one thirty twos, not the best. But again, these guys were all new to this team in the experience, including the writers. And I thought that not only did Morbidelli put up good numbers. But he also looked very comfortable very stable on the bike. And it looked like he was gaining confidence in leaps and bounds during that session, especially in changes of direction in the twisty bits of the track. He looked very very solid. So I thought he had a great test, and we can't wrap up our discussion of riders in the test without talking about at least one KTM guy. You know, so many changes so many moving parts it wasn't a huge surprise to see them. Take a step backwards before they start moving forward, and that's pretty much. What happened overall in Valencia at the KTM unsurprisingly a siren me? All of both of those guys struggled on the tech three equipment. Even though they're testing living there leathers, totally killer. But the most telling result was that of Johann Zarco without the advantage of two years of experience on the KTM like Paul Spago who landed a respectable thirteenth Surco struggled all weekend, culminating in a pair of wreck Sunday to and atop time that was one and three quarter seconds off the pace twenty first on the time sheep now Zarko said in his interview after day to the bike was worse than expected. But I'm wondering what he actually expected. I mean, did he not see what KTM was up to this year? I don't think he should be all that surprise that. There's a lot of work to do you know on last week show. I speculated that Zarqa was going to find out real quick that they're indeed will be a huge difference in the amount of work necessary to compete for a championship when the KTM as opposed to the Honda knows based on the comment. He made when he signed with KTM when people ask him. Why didn't you go to Honda Honda was obviously making you an offer? And he. Well, I could've gone the Honda. But I figured I've gotta work incredibly hard to be better than Marquez. If you want to win a championship you have to be better than marquess. And I'm going to have to work incredibly hard to beat Mark on a Honda. And if I'm going to have to work, incredibly hard to beat Mark on Honda. What's the difference between doing that and working incredibly hard to beat Mark on a KTM? Well, he's finding out right now. And I think that he discovered exactly that this weekend. I think if he could trade with halo Renzo right now. He totally would will it get better. Yeah. I think it will just think he was being very realistic at the time. He made that comment. I think he was trying to justify what he did. But he's gonna have to put in a lot of work to be able to get that bike to where it needs to be. And that's why said earlier on that. We didn't see Dani Pedrosa in this test for them, but they desperately need. They need to be on the track as well. They need as much input from his many experienced riders as possible to be able to get that bike up the spec because let's face it. You know, it was impressive is heavy siren was this year in two thousand eighteen and his talented is gala. Vera is. Those two guys in the KTM's on the tech three KTM's are not really going to be capable anytime soon of offering the type of input that they need to be able to move the bike forward. Something's a really gonna have to rely on spargo's experience with the Cates. Yelm. And then Zarco is talent and Danny's combined talent and experience to be able to make that better from the top down. So with that being said, those were the main broaders wanted to talk about from this test who are the stars of the show in this test. Well, when it comes to the riders this one for me is very easy maverick than y'all as he was great on the time sheet. He had great individual runs. He build a lot of momentum build up a lot of confidence. But I would say that Marquez is a close close second in this test. His times were solid, man. I think he had no choice, but the whole back quite a bit. Once he's one hundred percent and post shoulder surgery. He's going to be really really hard to be this preseason. Now when it comes to the teams, I would actually say it's Coty that's gonna go away from this test. The most optimistic all three GP nineteen were on the top five in the time chart all three. GP nineteen riders were consistently fast. The fact that Danilo Pacheco could matched Lovie times. And that Jack Miller wasn't that far behind. That's a huge boost for all those guys. And then when you throw in the impressive debut from Petco bag ni-, nobody had better test team was overall for me for sure then when it comes to the rookies. Well, this one is tough one. But I have to give the nod to him mere Petco had a slightly faster best lap. But MIR was just so consistent in his runs. He got better and better throughout the test. You know, this youngster is building a very solid base. And if he grows from there lookout, especially if Suzuki can get that two thousand eighteen motor figured out now of all the movers in the paddock. I would say if you had to hint out an award for this test. It would definitely go to Andrea. You know, no kidding hundred ninety I call this. One two toss up between Danilo pitchy, and Franklin Morbidelli Petrosky was surprisingly solid in his factory debut. But admittedly, he was on a factory bike, and he was graduating. From a current year do Coty. So some of that was to be expected because he was just simply going from the latest bike to the new latest bike Morbidelli, though changing manufacturers coming to a brand new team, given those challenges I think he was surprisingly good. So for me those to share that title of the best of the movers in this test. And the finally the biggest surprise I would say the patrolling team for me was the biggest surprise. I mean, a few months ago, these guys didn't even exist and then in the first test they find themselves with one writer six in combined times in their rookie rider, Fabio Coiro outpaced to factory bikes and a handful of riders at all have tons more experience than he does. So I know that you know, the mechanics and everything on the team already moded GP. But this was the first time they had all come together as a team first time, the writers have been involved first time for Yamaha with, you know, providing higher quality bikes to factory team or to satellite team, rather. I thought that they. Definitely were the biggest surprise of this test runner up here goes to Tito robot. I mean, he suffered a massive massive leg injury. He couldn't even walk to the bike in this test without crutches. But not only did he run ninety five laps over two days. Ninety five laps. Right. Get off the bike. They would hand his crutches head the lift him on to that bike to run ninety five laps on top of that. He was fifteenth fastest and just a little over a second off the best piece of the week. I mean, come on. You wanna talk about a guy putting in effort, despite the circumstances. Maybe really should assigned him. I'm just saying he put in a heck of a lot more effort than some people on some factory teams that I can think of and it was a lot more upbeat about it. Despite a situation then some guys on some factory team. So that I can think of so that's what I thought of the Balenciaga test. Wouldn't you think who were you impressed by the most will tell me on the Facebook page? Facebook dot com slash motoric dot net. We'll talk about it on next week show. And heck when it comes next week. We aren't even done with testing yet the final modal GP test of two thousand eighteen is next week in her as we'll talk about what to expect before the riders go on winter break on next week show. 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Motoweek - Lorenzo Retirement, Valencia MotoGP Pre-Race Show!

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Motoweek - Lorenzo Retirement, Valencia MotoGP Pre-Race Show!

"From Moto Dot net. It's the motor week. podcast with your host Wilson. Why Hello and welcome to Mota a week? My name is Wilson. Thank you so much for listening to the only motor. GP Show on the Internet. WHO's Valencia race preview is? I'm GonNa talk a whole lot about Valencia. I mean we are going to talk about Valencia but it was supposed to be just about this. Weekend's MotoGP race this episode of the program but but we got a little something extra to talk about when we're hill. Lorenzo dropped a bombshell on everyone coming into the weekend announcing that not only will he not be racing Repsol Honda next season. He won't be racing for any team in the premier class. That's right the five time champ is officially going to retire from Moto. GP At the conclusion of this Valencia race weekend so we will be doing our preview around nineteen of the world championship on the show. And by the way if you WanNa talk about all the other Mo- JP news that doesn't involve four. Hey Lorenzo then check out the show. I uploaded yesterday but today we will talk about the track teams and the riders for the season finale in them for the last time this year I will make picks for the race but before we get to any of that. We've got to talk about her. Hey Lorenzo Oh and what this nouncement means not just for him but for everybody on the Paddock going into twenty twenty Before we get down things though a do an invite you over to the website if you haven't checked it out yet et Modo week dot net. All of the late episodes are there. You can follow along on twitter and instagram. At Moto week hit up the facebook page facebook dot com slash mode week dot net. And I have not not checked. Read it yet because I just found out about this news but as soon as I'm done with the show that's where I'm going are slash. Read it I cannot wait to hear what you have to say a and what you've got to think about her hair. Lorenzo retiring so here. It is the rundown everything we're GONNA be talking about on this episode of the show which was originally just supposed to be a race preview and nothing else but instead we're starting with Jorges Lorenzo shocking. Everyone in the garage by announcing his impending retirement hire meant. Was it time for him to call it a career and I'll tell you what I think we'll discuss. Who may be taking over that ride in twenty twenty then after that we'll get? The Valencia are full preview of the final round of the motor. GPC's in the track the Circuit Ricardo. Tormo we'll talk about the favorites in this race. The top riders heading into the weekend. Some other actors. I've got my watch list and then I will make my picks and since we're on the topic of By the way make sure you get your lineup Sim for the final final fantasy motor. GP Week of the season. It could mean the difference between you getting one of these awesome trophies sitting right here next to me or losing out and I don't want you to lose out so make sure you get your lineup. Send there's not a lot of time left all right. So let's get going here and let's talk about this huge huge story because the speculation started immediately afterward got around that there was a special press conference being called and it was involving her. Hey Lorenzo but that speculation didn't didn't last very long. It wasn't much of a guessing game once it was also announced that Dorna boss Carmelo escalator was going to be an attendance at pretty much tipped. What the topic of conversation was going to be because if it had just been Lorenzo and HRC staff that was going to be at this? Press Conference You figure there's a chance. They were either a reinforcing that he was going to be there next next year or be more likely that for whatever reason Lorenzo was going to end his contract early and go look for other opportunities but escalated doesn't toss his his two cents in and pick up a microphone. Just you know. Based on some regular old silly season drama. He only gets on stage for the big stuff and this certainly qualified as being big so Lorenzo made it official. He will run one more race. This Sunday and Valencia. And that's it he's done. He'll retire higher now. The strange part about this is that it's something that we've been talking about on the show as a real possibility that Lorenzo may retire or that he you might leave Honda and go someplace else. And there've been rumors floating around for months ever since the wreck back in Essen and the summer break that had been denied time and time again that Lorenzo retirement. Obviously there was some basis to those. But it still somehow seems even though we've been discussing even though we've been maybe even expecting it. It still seems strange and surrealistic and I think a big part of that is because the announcement was so sudden I mean unlike Dani Pedrosa who was in a contract year and then he decided long before the end of the season that that was going to be eh was going to be his last. Well unlike that this comes in the middle of a contract cycle bill and then just hours before the weekend of his final race is to start and even Marc Marquez said that he and the majority of the people that H. R. C.. Were shocked by the decision. They all found out at the last minute head. CALC RUSSILLO's said he didn't even know until he got off the plane and Valencia and they said by the way We gotta get you to this press conference right now. At that point he pretty much figured what was about to happen but even though it all happened so suddenly and because of that. It's a bit of a shock in reality you know. The announcement announcement really isn't premature in terms of his age and the length of his career. And we just talked about this a couple of weeks ago in the shell until recently a thirty two year old. The rider was ancient by MotoGP standards. But despite that it certainly does feel premature doesn't it. I think that's mostly because the two main writers that he's battled during his career for Championships Marquez. Now in Valentino Rossi earlier both those guys are still in the sport and you know the Rossi factor kind of skews is our perception of rider age quite a bit and who's old and who's not and it also feels premature because let's face it. We all know that hey. Lorenzo was talented. His talent didn't and just fly out the window. You know coming into this season. And we know he's capable of riding at a high level. Still you know somebody was joking around on the last show of from the facebook page. I I can't remember who was. I'm sorry about how Lorenzo is going to go out and start winning for Honda as soon as he signed the contract with someone else or as soon as Honda dumped him right and I think a lot of people thought that was a real possibility and I also think that if he was healthy and on a Yamaha again he would have the ability to compete at least to compete for podiums kind of be on the same level as Valentino. Rossi is a baseline right. He might be able to even do better than that but certainly capable of podiums and of not embarrassing himself like he has this past season on the Honda. If he were healthy and on that Yaman I think that brings us to the main reason for or Hayes retirement announcement. That's injuries although he was trying to deflect from those even as recently as last week that international motorcycle show and he said there that hey and all and he is a month and a half on the couch watching cartoons. And I'M GONNA be ready to get after it again and because of comments like that and because Honda brought in join Zarko before Lorenzo have made his final decision. He said he actually made it a few days after Malaysia. That was when he really knew what he was going to do. But because of him saying you know I just need to get healthy. I can still do an now. Here comes Arco into pressure on him. There are already people speculating. That Honda played some sort of role here that we don't know about and they had some influence over Lorenzo's announcement or kind of forced him into retiring and I don't I don't know if that was the case or not. I mean if it was. I'm sure that we're GONNA find out after Lorenzo's contract is up. Because if his autobiography was any indication who is not afraid need to call people out after the fact but really. I can't imagine that Honda forced him out if his contract were already nearing its end. That's one thing asks dean of Georgia how that works but I would think that Honda would have been willing to keep Lorenzo around for the second season. I mean after all twenty twenty one is the real target for them in every other factory team and so they wouldn't have been wasting too much time and effort by keeping him for one more year if for no other reason than the same base and just just keep the seat warm for whoever they were planning on going after in silly season and especially since you know there was a chance and maybe an outside one but there was a chance instead he might have been able to figure things out more like he did in year two to Kati. So I don't really think that Honda was meddling here. I think it was pretty much Lorenzo's decision not that there wasn't doesn't some influence one way or the other but I don't think it was major influence on any side and it was really Jorges decision and the injury explanation to me is legit because any any serious injury is GonNa make a little bit more gun. Shy a little bit more conscious of their own mortality. And in Lorenzo's case it wasn't just any injury I mean. He fractured extra couple of vertebrae in his back. That's not small stuff and it came after two straight seasons of nagging injuries at Duke odium really carrying over in the Honda And of course his strange propensity for spectacular high sides over the past two and a half years. And you combine that and I would be worried too about having having another one leaning on my back and I you know I would imagine that plays on you quite a bit and I would bencher against that. If anybody was trying to put external pressure on Lorenzo to make a decision like like this it might have been as doctors. I mean they might have been cautioning him that. Hey you have to protect your back because if you do this again especially if you do it before what what. You've injured is healed properly. You risk something even more serious so I believe him when he says that the injuries were the major factor in making that decision decision. And like I said in the press conference to if you're not winning you feel like you're not in a position to win anytime soon and you're risking serious injury in your quest to not even be competitive. You start to question whether it's all worth it so I don't think it was blowing smoke one bit with those statements and plus Lorenza was the type of guidance words. Anyway so I don't think he oh come out there and bss not that plainly openly Especially considering that during that same speech that same press conference. He willingly admitted had his faults. He admitted that he was slow. He admitted that he led Honda down and felt bad about an. I think that was big of him to do by the way. I don't think he needed to do that because he was ending his career here. He wasn't just ending his time with Honda so for him to be that forthright when it came to his performance the past season and the past couple of seasons seasons than I don't know why he wouldn't have been just as honest about the reasons for him retiring so no I don't think that Honda was meddling in the situation. Nearly as much as some people might be speculating. I'm now Carmelo escalator announced at the press conference that Lorenzo would officially be made a Mo- GP Legend next year at her as seems like a long way but honestly that is the best place place to do it. I mean there's a corner named for him thereafter all And I don't think anyone doubts the importance of where he Lorenzo to the Sport Valentino Rossi today called him one of the most important riders of the modern era. And he's right and the stats are one thing you can look them up five world championships. Sixty eight hundred fifty two podiums. Those numbers speak for themselves offs. But beyond that Lorenzo Bridge the gap between the Rossi era and the Marquez era and yes Casey's donor was there multiple championships had some. I'm great battles with the doctor but the thing about donor is that his health ironically made him an inconsistent challenger and so you've got Rossi just continuing to dominate. And then here comes this kid straight to the factory Yamaha team and he turned out to be the rider that could take the fight. The Rossi consistently on a race by race basis and at the same time waving the rally flag for Spanish fans and getting them re-energized in the sport and then eventually he reached that goal and he was able to a beat Valentino and put the doctor back on his heels and then we had a real battle between those two guys and then Lorenzo went head to head with just as much intensity against mark. Mark has in his first couple of years and he could Lorenzo. Could very well end up. Being the only rider to be able to beat both Rossi Marquez in head to head battles titles for motor. GP Championships and did it when both riders were at or very near the top of their individual games. That's impressive and of course. Not only did he take on valet a mark but he did it all with the demeanor of the other champion that had just mentioned Casey Stone or adopting Casey's whole. I'm going to say what I want and I really don't care what you think. Type of attitude maybe not as brazenly stoner histone. Had some awesome press conferences. But let's face it. Lorenzo wasn't too far behind. He would speak his mind. Was the arrogant. Yeah totally especially when he was beating everyone but what great. Roger doesn't have a gigantic ego and it's just that was a bit more abrasive then his compatriots for lack of a better word Bottom line whether you're a fan of Lorenzo or not is really irrelevant on this day. Who He is is and has been a great an influential writer in the sport from his ultra-smooth style that so many writers have tried to emulate to those soul crushing victories in his prime time when he would just check out and leave the rest of the field wondering what had just happened a fantastic championed provided much needed balance to the sport when he arrived and then attempted to maintain that when Marquess Mark Marquess showed up? He enjoyed great success. He provided us with plenty of drama. Both on and off the track after personally say thanks for all that Takata stuff gave me a lot of stuff to talk about on the show uh-huh and even the hardest stuff has given me a ton of stuff to talk about on the show too but overall it is definitely sad to see him go and it's bad timing too. Oh because we're looking at the potential for Valentino Rossi to retire soon as well and you'll Marquez doing okay and the fan department obviously but it really the two biggest most rabid fan bases and Modo GP have belonged for years to Valentine Rossi and Lorenzo and then as much as they hate each other. That's as much as they love their riders. And that's a great part of the sport and so the have Lorenzo retire this year and potentially potentially Rossi to retire next year. I think the People Dorna are going to be like sending like a fruit basket. A day to Ballantine Rossi's house to try to keep him around around for two more years so they can at least space it out a little bit between his departure and one of the most popular writers in the sport and where Hey Lorenzo Of course with Lorenzo leaving that then inevitably is GonNa bring up the question. What does Honda do next? That is going to be a a huge story until we have a definite answer and Pancho asked me right away on twitter. Who's going to be marked teammate? Next year that is the million dollar question. Isn't it now. The media has has already started asking that question while most riders are being a little bit cagey right now. It's only out of the desire to not look like a complete jerk and step on Lorenzo's toes but the blood is in the water. And you better bet the sharks are gonNA turn up sooner rather than later to try to get that number ninety nine bike and I'm sure a lot of people a autres. A lot of agents are going to inquire current contract or not but overall. It looks like there are four major players in the race to get that Repsol Honda seat number one. Cow Crutch slow and cow is trying to avoid the topic today. I actually think he was genuine. And saying hey listen. Don't ask me about this. The focus should be on Lorenzo. Not The people who might get his ride but this is kind of a free play for Honda in the sense that they now have a seat open for one year and they really don't have any expectations -tations it'll be the perfect opportunity for them to reward cow by putting him on the Repsol bike first season but there are a few problems with a move like that Honda you might want to go with a younger rider. They might want to go with the less controversial Roger or they might want to go with the rider that they've you'd be a bit more consistent than cal because cal as we all know has has the propensity the toss it into the gravel on regular basis plus cal sponsored by monster which could be an issue for the rebel focused Repsol team and then what happens wins if cal wants to race past twenty twenty because as much as they like cal I don't see them signing him to a two year deal for twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two. So what do you do at that point. You've rewarded him. Hey you got a year on the Repsol ride. Now we're going to you back to L. CR. I don't know CAL's GonNa go. For that. And elsewhere at that point Monteverdi replaced him with the younger outer themselves selves. So that would be interesting but it only makes sense if cal is really planning for next year to be his last season and then he retires in which case do it give him the ride. Let him have that opportunity. Let him go out on a high note for the highest level Honda team but if he wants to keep going beyond that. I don't think that Honda would be looking at him. As a long-term option and demoting and back to L. CR would just kind of be a bit of a job that I don't think would sit well with anybody if they did that because cal such a popular rider So he's option number one option number two Johann ZARCO and this seems to be the sure thing option. I mean Honda did not bring Zarco in to fill in for Takenaka Gami by mistake. They knew what they were doing. And now they have an open seat. They have an unattached writer for next season that has tons of talent motor. GPA experience and looks like he's already getting along with the bike it's it's a slam dunk. Right maybe maybe not Zarko does is come with some baggage. After all. He has proven to be a bit moody and Temperamental and he did just bail from a factory team. Three quarters of the way through his first season the might be a bit of a Red Flag for Honda and they also don't know if he'll expect the same level of attention as mark because he was technically the number one rider. Ktm He he knows he's not going to be the number one rider to mark buddy. Probably expects them to give him a lot of stuff right. Honda might not necessarily share that opinion. They might WanNa go the do Khadi Route Within Ella Petrucci for a year and go with the low maintenance option so overall I think there is an excellent chance that zarco is going to be writing some sort sort of Honda next year. But I'm not sure if it's going to be the one with Repsol callers or if it's going to be an elsie are bike. So that's option number. Two option number three Takenaka gummy and did he picked the wrong time to get injured. Or what I mean. Here's a guy that was a legit top ten rider coming into the season. And at the beginning getting the season all the way up until he had his run with Rossi at Assen then it all went down the tubes with his injury and think about it if he had not gotten hurt. If talking Nakagomi army wasn't hurt this season he may very well have been knocking on the door of the top. Say six or seven right about now on a euro bike. Because you know over the year he would have gotten better and the same time with him. Healthy Zarko wouldn't have even been in the picture at all to try to get this ride from him. So you would have a Japanese writer that have finally broken through and showed his potential combined with a low risk opportunity to put him on the Repsol Bike for a year. It would have been done deal but of course that's not what happened. He did get it hurt. And that muddies. The waters quite a bit for him. Although I don't think it necessarily leaves him entirely out in the cold on this one because it's only a one year commitment. I think there still is a decent chance that talk get a hard look to get this Gig. He'll already be twenty eight when the season starts next year. So this could actually be Honda's only real chance chance to find out what he can really do on equipment or on the best equipment rather and will play very very well with the hometown fans in with the Honda Executives. So that's option three and of of course the fourth option Alex Marquez. And did he pick the right time to win the motorcycle championship. Or what in your few shows. Back I was congratulating graduating Alex for forging his own path and not leaning on nepotism to try to get a mortgage EP GIG. Well that dedication could pay off right now. A year ago at this time. If this had all happened in Alex got the call to the Repsol team it would look like nothing more than a power play by big brother. Because that's what it would've been was the power play by is big brother but now now mark can genuinely make a case for Alexander. Garrity has because in the press conference the pre-race press conference difference. He was obviously asked a ton of questions about who are. Hey and who might fill in and he did not hide it at all that he thinks that his brother actually does have a shot at the GEICO Geico but not just because he's mark's brother anymore now he's a two time world champion that just clinched his first motoo title on a triumph. A middleweight class spike. That is closer to a motor. GP machine than any other previous bike in that class and so make a ton of sense. Honda gets young rider that they can develop from the ground up you get a built-in guarantee that he's going to get along with Mark Wright and they can grab the reigning motoo champ because they have a seat right now l. before anybody else has the opportunity to even talk to them because they have nothing to offer. Yeah I know he's under contract for next season but let's face it all. It is is money to get you out of a contract contract. Honda has money. They're saving a ton on Lorenzo next year But the downside is you know the contract is a thing because it would kind of suck for them to pull the rug out of mark. Vs this late in the game and who knows Honda might have another rider that there for twenty twenty one and this isn't one year proposition if you're talking about Alex Marquez. If if you're making that move you're pretty much committing yourself to him being your writer of the future at that point and I don't know if it is ready to do that or not so again all four of these guys there's an upside and there's a downside so that being said here's how I think they rank believe it or not I think talking Nakagomi is the number one candidate for me. He's got the best chance. Honda pleases the Home Office with that. Move to get to see what Nakagomi can do and then they can cut bait and run after a year. If it doesn't work out no uh-huh controversy involved right then after him Zarka number two Alex Marquez number. Three and crutch low number four in that order provided that crutch slow wants to stick around beyond twenty twenty if chrysler is planning on retiring after next season when that could change everything but even Ocala's hinted that he might retire from time to time. He's too darn stubborn stubborn to go without a fight so I think he's going to be around a couple more seasons at least and if it is Nakagomi or crutch low on that bike then Jones Arco hops on the remaining meaning L.. CR with only a minimum of grumbling about it because he'll have a real job immortal. GP At that point so my bowl prediction at this point. Talk on the Repsol Bike Circle. And the and the other half of my prediction who are hey. Lorenzo as the new Yamaha test rider. Doesn't it all make sense now. Well I mean we were just talking on yesterday's show about Yamaha letting yoenis vulgar go. Why would they do that? He was their only moto. GP level talent and he didn't have a lot of experience. Yeah but he had been there and so one of the things I was thinking was they've got somebody else on the back burner. They know they can get this person. They just need to put it all together well. Lorenzo Lorenzo announces his retirement before Valencia as opposed to after he's gotten on the two thousand twenty by contested. It like he's been saying you wanted to possibly maybe baby in an effort to convince Honda to let him out of his contract Sunday after the race. Because I haven't seen any of the new stuff doubt they would do that but who knows maybe was trying and all of this is happening. Lorenzo retiring in the timing of it and fogarty. Getting let go all of this is happening. While Valentino Rossi is saying that Yamaha needs a test rider her with Modo. GP Not Experience With Moto G P race pace. Well guess what now. There's a guy available so I think that Lorenzo pulls a Casey stoner and returns home to be a test rider and brand ambassador for a very very healthy paycheck. What do you think let me know on facebook facebook dot com slash mode week dot net or over read? Read it at our slash Moto Week From there let's go onto this weekend's race round nineteen of the Motogp World Championship. The final race of the season season is Sunday at the circuit. Ricardo Tormo in Valencia with all of the drama and excitement to start the weekend. It's actually difficult to remember that we still do have a race to run and that there are things still the race. Four the independent writer title which Fabio Quarrel has all but locked up as long as nothing crazy happens and then the interesting won the team title which is very much alive. especially if we're hey. Lorenzo decides to pull off something unexpected for his final race because the margin is just two points points from factory to Kati. Back to Repsol Honda. It could actually go either way especially at this track. And let's start by talking about the track the Circuit Ricardo Tormo Tormo. It is massively different than the places we just saw for the flyaways The four kilometer circuit is much more technical than anything we saw in the Pacific rounds. But that's not to mean you can't carry some momentum here those dog-legs turns three seven and nine really proved to be more about precision than all out handling her agility and each provides the opportunity to either make up or lose time if you hit them wrong and of course. There's that long stretch that still manages to turn out two hundred mph al per hour speeds that are really out of character with the slower nature of the rest of the track. The best passing zones are the harking areas obviously term one at the end of the aforementioned confront stretch and then turned to coming up short straight after that first term but turn aid is a good place for action to as well as turned eleven where the riders are trying to wait as as long as possible to break. And you're already leaned over and turn ten going into eleven. It's a very tricky corner. Where a mistake can really cost you big? But for all of those places says Valencia the most exciting part is that last Combo of corners that super cramped apex of turn twelve. Try Not to get on breaks trying to stay on the gas through it. And then that right hander that sharp right-hander opens into a never ending left hand. Turn that would make Phillip Island Proud Carrying hearing all kinds of speed right over on the edge of the tire. And then you've got to figure out how to stand the bike up just enough to get in the brakes really hard for that left handed hairpin and to get back onto the front stretch one of the most unique sets of corners in the sport and definitely a place where some unexpected action could happen. So that's the track Valencia and in the interest of time. We're going to skip the manufacturers and go right to the contender starting as usual with Marc Marquez. And you know at this point you'd think the season season is done. Essentially for marketing won the title races ago But that's not actually the case. Mark has a lot to raise foreign this one. And that's a good thing and it's also a bad thing. The biggest thing up for grabs is that team championship and pretty much. The only thing that can make this season anymore. Four perfect for mark is if he almost single-handedly beats the pair of Dukakis factory riders. Not only to take that team trophy but tend to secure yet another triple crown for Honda. It's GonNa be kind of difficult to do. Assuming that both dovy and Danilo Petrucci get somewhere close to their usual usual potential but it is possible especially with how mark has been writing. I'm at Valencia. Mark only has one win to go with five podiums but that's a little bit misleading. Because more often than not. He doesn't need the win here. He's already got the championship in his back pocket but even in those races where he doesn't have to go out there and finish up front. He typically always is fast fast and along with that team goal. He also has a personal goal of getting to four hundred points and it's only five points away and he will get it and trust. He did definitely a big deal to him even though he's not saying anything about it nobody's asking him about it he's thinking about getting to four hundred points and being the first rider ever to do that he he will do it as long as he doesn't wreck. and therein lies the RUB because mark needs to finish the race. He can't wreck. He has to score points for both of those goals. He's got to score points. Doesn't have to win but he does have to finish the race and in on a day when few others are going to have anything truly at risk ask in the end mark is going to have to be a little bit more careful than everybody else because while finishing well doesn't necessarily guarantee he's going to reach either of his goals wrecking means he definitely won't be doing it so he may be a bit cautious out there and that could be the opening that somebody nobody else needs of. Course one of the riders. That's going to be trying to chase markdown. In this one is Andrea David Zero. So and dovy. Did the rain dance last year. Going out and winning in the wet while marks scored absolutely absolutely nothing. And that's a result that I'm sure he would give just about anything to trade for two thousand seventeen because it would have given him a championship. He's only Valencia podium on a do coty he did have one other one it was on a Honda and his task. This time is to show similar similar potential. Maybe not go out there and win but show similar potential in the dry and could be tough because this is definitely not a track suited to the GP EP nineteen strengths but good setup. Maybe some memories of last year's race along with a little bit of motivation to not let mark beat him out in the team championship means means that he might that might be enough to inspire him to achieve something a little bit extra on a dry track and pull out another unexpected result especially if mark is indeed extra cautious so either needs to do that or he needs to make sure that she brings his famous magic titanium rain stick with them but I mean really. It's going to be sunny outside. I don't think that's going to help at all. If Dole the finishes fourth or fifth in that area which he's done before multiple times before Valencia. That might be enough to clinch the team title title if Danilo Petrucci steps up and that is a big if really patricia cheese the wild card in that entire team championship. Moving on the maverick Daniela's math comes in on on a high. Obviously after that big victory and Sapang and the handling prowess should be a decent match for Valencia even though the layout has another tight corners that really could end up taking its toll on the in terms of edge grip and drive off the corner late in the race as the tires. Go the other problem for math. He really hasn't done a whole lot here. His best motogp finish was fifth. And that wasn't even on a Yamaha that was on this Zouqi but if they did if they did take a real step forward with the electronics over the last few races like Virginia's maintaining they did then there's no reason to think that he can't be a factor again in this race. The biggest plus from from ABC is confidence and for a rider that really has to have everything around him. Perfect Lorenzo a maverick Manila's that could really count for a lot. So his frame frame of mind coming into this race could be just as important. As the bike set-up in the advancements that Yamaha have made and then we'll talk about his teammate Valentino Rossi and you know I hesitate hesitate a little bit to put Rossi on the favorites list. After how the Pacific rounds went as a whole but Sapang brought me back for him he got. He got the confidence of leading thing. He was only off the podium by a few tents and the improvement was explainable because he kind of went back to basics like vignon listed now valet is coming into this weekend a little bit pessimistic about the bike and about their development for twenty twenty but his success here is undeniable. He has two wins and he has eight premier your class podiums over his career although there's a little bit of a catch with that because his last let's see a victory was in two thousand four. That's right fifteen years ago. Most writers don't even have a career that's fifteen years long and that was the last time that he got on the top. Step of the Podium Valencia. But that's not to say that he's been terrible here recently The doctor finished top five in five of the last six races. Here the one where he didn't finish up was last season remember. He was in London finished second second in that wet race in both segments of the wet race before he pushed a little too hard in the closing laps. And been that so windsor not in the last decade and a half half I still think that Rossi has a decent chance of having a good day in Valencia Sunday. Now of course the writer who took over that second place spot last year thanks to Rossi's misfortune. That was Alex Rinse but that loan podium is not what makes him interesting to me. In this race he was fourth in Valencia in the dry in in his rookie season. and that's sweet. Handling Suzuki Chassis can definitely be used to his advantage this weekend. Even if those guys are going to be giving up a bunch of horse power and top speed on that front stretch to Jakarta and the Honda because there are plenty of twisty bits here to make up all that difference after an encouraging fifth in Malaysia. He's not completely clearly back but he's getting there. And this could be the comeback race for Rennes than the last Ryder. I'm going to be watching as one of the favorites. One of the writers who very well might score our top five could go after a podium. Maybe even take a shot at the win this weekend. Fabio Charro and I'm looking for him to be a comeback rider in this as well not that I thought his sipping race was bad. I thought it was okay. I mean he was injured. He wasn't a full strength and he still ended up seventh and the only satellite bike ahead of him was his teammate. An Franken Morbidelli but still get it. He expects to finish on the podium. Everybody else expects them to fight for podiums now and this could be his chance to get back again that groove and go after mark again his best finish here in Moto two was a sixth last year. Not that great. But I wouldn't put a lot of stock in it either. Fabio has been outperforming his motto to pace over the second half of the season and his strengths are breaking and corner speed. Valencia has a couple of heartbreaking zones but more importantly certainly it's got a lot of corners for him to show off his trademark specialty. And I think he has a solid chance not only to be near the podium but to give his factory teammates. It's a genuine run for their money to be the fastest Yamaha and track so those are my favorites for Sunday's race. Who else am I looking for? Why do have some other writers on my watch list and boy away the first one? I can't wait to see what he does. Show Ends Arco and really. has there ever been a bigger race for Zarko potentially than this one. Because what was a lightly veiled auditioned to maybe be a Honda rider. If something unexpected happened while it's it's now turned into a very public audition for where hey Lorenzo's seat and yeah a minute ago. I didn't put him as my top option for the Repsol bike. But but I think nothing at Honda is cast in stone right now. Which means that Joon? Ken Race his way onto that bike. And into that. Let's seat. Is He capable. Well finished second here. In his rookie. Season Anyone Valencia Motoo so knowing that will have good weather. His confidence should be pretty the high coming into this race. He was already targeting getting straight into cue to now I think he probably has visions of podiums in his head. Now podium I think is probably a long shot. He's he's on a year old bike after all but if he managed to do that then I think it would make for a very difficult decision at Honda. I think he's going to be aiming to make that happen though I would if I were him and honestly I hope he does it. Because it's GONNA give us a lot to talk about coming out of the weekend. The next extra on my watch list is kind of a shaky one here Pol spago because as we all know it was a thrilling. I ever Modo G. P. Podium for KTM with Paula. Whole aspagren a year ago? But that of course was in the wet and doing the same thing without the rain. That's going to be a much bigger challenge for him implicate. KTM especially since poll really isn't running as well right now as he was earlier in the season however that being said every mode GP race the poll Hola Spa. Grow has run in Valencia. Where he's made it to the end? He's been sixth or better. Self he can just keep the sticky side on the track the entire way. Who knows maybe we we could be in? For another dose of Valencia. Kt Magic not shortly money on it but keep an eye on him Next Step Asia Mir and for the same reason that I like Grins I. I liked Joanne Mirror in this one as well. A good chassis is always a big boost in Valencia. Being able to manage tires doesn't hurt either. Plus Mir continues to have good finishes says since coming back from his injury he was tenth in Sapang. Yeah but you gotta remember. He had to run a phonology. Lapin that we're running into Zarko so it'd be able to hang onto a tenth the place I mean. It's pretty well all things considered and he's been on the podium here twice a motor three so he understands the track and how to build momentum around it so who knows I think the mere has the ability to be as good as Rennes. Maybe in this race there always seems to be something unusual. That happens at Valencia. So when I look at guys like Paula. Oh spago like Joanne. Mir like Jones Arco for that matter my see potential there for somebody to sneak into the top five that we weren't expecting and maybe even take a shot at the podium. Of course there's one one other writer that put on my watch list for this week and Yes yes I am going to put her. Hey Lorenzo on the list and and not just for sentimental reasons although although that's most of it but also because he's got more winds at Lancia than any other rider on the grid. Four victories five podiums. Of course he's got a good number of DNS as well but still he'll be trying extra harper's final final race and maybe just maybe that will produce a better than expected result and at the same time it could end up helping Honda get the team championship. And how fitting would that happy that the writer that they signed for so much money who is so terrible all season long for Honda could come up with just the right performance in just the right race his final race ever to help them get the team championship and the triple crown. We'll have to see how it works out. But like I said the wild card in that one definitely Danilo Mellow Petrucci if Danilo races up to spec racist where he should be racing then I don't think has much of a chance but he continues to struggle like he has been then that race as for the team championship is wide open so those are the writers on my watch list for this week which means there is only one thing left to do in this part of the show I dread the most the picks so let's get right down to it here my top five for this weekend's race in Valencia in theft and yes this one is for sentimental reasons. I'm picking Lorenzo. I know it's not really going to happen. They're like two or three other routers. I really wanted to put in this spot but you never know man. Stranger things have certainly happen and remember whenever Lorenzo knows. He's not going to be with the team anymore. His performance suddenly perks up did with Yamaha. Windy left did you. Kati audie when he left school. So Willett with Honda when he's leaving. Well let's find out some putting him fifth this weekend in Fourth Valentino Rossi. He did just fast enough to make me a believer in his ability to be top five again and this is a good track for him even when he's not winning here it's not a bad track for him so I'm GonNa put Rossi Fourth Worth and that brings us to the podium in this race and unfortunately decoding fans not a single ride bike in the picture for me finishing third this weekend Alex Rinse it is the the right match of track and bike got a little bit of confidence in Sapang. He can turn that into a podium this weekend. Some GONNA call this a comeback race for him in the top two. It's GONNA be a battle hopefully a great battle between Fabio Colorado Marquez. Who's going to win? It's gotta go with mark in this one so bobbio culture. Ro sechin check in. It'll be a great rebound race for him. If he can do that. I know that the Yamaha is probably GONNA struggle at the end of this race to find traction. But Fabio just seems seems to ignore that when he's locked in and I think with this being the last chance of the year for him to go after mark and try and get that victory I think he is going to be locked in and that usually just lifts him a little bit above everybody else. I'll have him as the top Honda but not quite being able to get it done against Marc Marquez. He's got too much arrays for here. You know is going to be up for this one. He wants the four hundred points he wants to do it from the top step of the podium and I just don't think there's going to be a strong enough challenger outside of maybe Fabio Coiro to really put the pressure on him and without the rain I don't see dovy being in this. Mix It all. So that's my top five for this weekend's race who hey Lorenzo theft try not to laugh. I'm trying not to Valentino Rossi. Fourth and on the podium Alex Ren's Bobbio Quad Sharara and Marc Marquez. Agreed you disagree. You know what to do tell me about it on facebook at facebook dot com slash Modique dot net or over on the right at sub- at our slash Moto Week. Next up we've got race. Which means we will have a post ratio? Oh so check back. At the end of the weekend I'll recap all of the action from Valencia in Moto. Three Moto to ammo. GP and tell you what I thought of the race and then it'll be your turn. Turn leave your comments on facebook facebook dot com slash mode week dot net. And I'm right at at our slash motor weekend. We'll talk about him on the full show later this week along with writer reaction the latest Honda News. Maybe we're GONNA have some rumors or maybe we're going to have an announcement about who's going to take over Lorenzo Amr member as soon as race weekend and is done. Twenty Twenty Valencia testing starts. We don't have really a lot of Ryder switching teams but we're going to have new bikes and they're going to start the measure each other up so it's GonNa to be a lot of fun and anytime we've got a lot of action on the track. I get amped up to watch it. So if you don't WanNa miss a single episode of the show I would highly recommend you subscribe. You can do it on speaker breaker. That's the best place you know. You'll be supporting the shelf. You listen on speaker you can also find it on Itunes stitcher player Dot FM. Google play music iheartradio spotify. You can ask Alexa play the shown Joan. 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Anna Valencia (Vote Her In, Episode 15)

Two Broads Talking Politics

26:04 min | 1 year ago

Anna Valencia (Vote Her In, Episode 15)

"Hi this is kelly with the two brads talking politics podcast. This is the fifteenth road of our vote her in series with author rebecca side where we look at the movement to elect our first woman president on today's episode. We speak with chicago city clerk on valencia. He'd like to hear the other suits in this series. You can go to to broads talking politics dot com slash vote her in or find them in our regular feed. Anywhere podcast are found judge are are you listening everyone. This is kelly with two broads talking politics and we are on today with the fifteenth episode of our vote her in series where we look at the movement to elect our first woman president i am joined as usual by my partner in this vote her in venture author rebecca xiv hi rebecca warning kelly and joining us today. We have the city clerk of chicago kogo valencia hi ana then mining kind rebecca morning anna great to have you on looking forward. I'm honored to be here. Well you know what we wanted to jump right in because you know as i was thinking about another kind of conversation we wanted to have with you. I went back and looked at the interview. I did with you for my book voter ran and realized as i was reflecting on it that you you may not be the only person who's had this experience but i think you're probably one of the few women elected who served in an executive capacity <hes> pity as a campaign manager as an appointed official and as an elected official and i thought given that special experience you've had it would be really good <hes> for our listeners to hear from you about who how and why you chose out executive path and what you've learned from and in can share with us definitely well. Thank you ladies for having me. You know i love talking about anything women and women and powered and journeys woman and i love listening to podcasts because they also inspire me hearing other people's journeys <hes> but for me it kind of really started. I don't like to say by accident but by chance how i got involved in politics you know i grew up downstate illinois about five hours south of chicago my dad and the trade my mom and a nonprofit profit and i was i my family to go to college at the university of illinois and the summer going into my senior year of college. I got an opportunity to be on our local judge's race and at the point where actually my father got me on the race the woman that cut his hair he had been talking to and she said oh my husband's a lawyer he's running for judge and you know my my daughter is interested in politics and government and forty eight hours later i had myself a great internship and really that opened had my eyes to something that i never even saw a possibility of heating able to go out and talk to voters and try to you know run on your issues and get people people elected and so what i thought i was going to be a lawyer because in my community lawyers were what were considered successful and i think my father desperately wanna. I need to be a lawyer and change introductory of our family but it wasn't really for me and i didn't go to law school. I ended up from the connection of the judge's race. Some folks that were working for then senator obama who was running. I graduated in two thousand seven may so great time for the presents sippy kicking off and actually two weeks after college got a job in virginia with the state party as an organizer so i packed my bags lived. It didn't supporter housing knocking door seven days a week and started my first journey into politics and to answer your question rebecca. You know you really don't i know what you can be if you don't see it and when i came back to illinois after the virginia cycle it was very small network of other folks that worked in campaigns is that recognized something that i didn't see of talent and hustle and hard work that kind of help me put myself on a path to jump on different campaigns what i did notice though being in campaigns and kind of moving up and in this world were not a lot of women and not color and for me when i i finally did get a seat at the table senator durbin campaign manager at twenty eight my first real leadership responsibility i noticed <hes> there were still bill lacking and in fact they tell the story to young people you know i went into a room to talk about the corner campaign in two thousand fourteen and there are sat with you know speaker of the house and the state senate president the governor at the time and senator durbin and all brought one person staff member and i looked around rounded. I was the only woman in the room and i would iran that was my kind of opportunity to step in and really lead and understand the power my voice <music> and lead the meeting successfully and we got everyone's approval to do the coordinated campaign and we moved so for me. It's been a great experience to understand understand the very basics of getting your foot in the door and as an organizer and campaign fight to understand campaign strategy and filthy in the ranks of top campaigns gene not a lot of women and then coming into the executive branch the greatest joy i've had is being able to change that narrative to actually have on on my eighth senior staff member seven women and one very strong brave man on our team and really be able to transcend what executive leadership looks like and their lived experience which is very exciting part of my job so can you share with a little about the kinds of skills and approaches to work that you wanna share with as you put it that one brave man and all those wonderful women. Yes you know i think the biggest thing for women is sometimes sometimes we don't always have the confidence i seen i think for men especially men of color come in with some imposter syndrome right and not knowing doing if they have what it takes the skills or the right education or the right resume your background and so it took a lot of coaching in seeking mentors and and finding people who've done this work to talk about it with so that you can build up that confidence to speak up when you're at the table i also find that when women in our enrolls of leadership that we are very collaborative spirit that we want to hear people maybe it's because we've been looked over so much that we want to be able to hear but also listening and then takes out listening and actually make action out of it. It's one thing to do listening table than listening to her but if you don't be if you're not courageous or bold enough to act on what you're hearing well then you're not really getting the job done so i'm really trying to expand the table but also in power the table to speak up to be able to articulate their viewpoints viewpoints their personal experiences their lived experiences because that's when the magic happens that's when the best policy happened is when you're able to get your team shared olympic experiences and create policies that walks to be effective because all the different perspectives are taken into account so i just wanted to push <unk> on that a little bit about those those lived experiences and if you could talk a bit about sort of what that means you know what what sorts of things in <hes> <hes> in your current role as as city clerk. Are you able to sort of draw on those lived experiences. I know you're trying to put through a a number of reforms and and how does how does is sort of reflect on your life and having your staff reflect on their lives. You know what that means on him said the kinds of things you can can do as city clerk with the kinds ends of policies. You can put put into place. I'll give you three examples wine. I will say that's the most defense is our fines and fees reform collaborative operative that we launched i launched in december and i launched this with a lot of parents and department heads and other elected officials because i heard so many stories and led to experiences of government putting barriers and people's lives instead of removing those barriers when it came to city stickers i and debt collection bankruptcy you all the things that were kind of happening with my office. My office was responsible for some of it but there are other departments mints that were also responsible for it and you heard different lived experiences for example the c._p._a. Bus driver who was a father of three on the west side who shared a story about losing his job at p._t._a. Because of five thousand dollars and fifty sticker ticket debt alone and was unable to get on a payment plan the pay that off and so there was a set fire all that was happening to him and his family and when you have those folks at the table telling you their or narrative or the lived experiences that helps you create a better policy that will help intact those communities that have been you know preyed upon if you will <hes> so that's one example another example. I will say <hes> from my team zone experience. We're sitting around one day talking about how we got our foot in the door and government and and how we even new government was a career elected office or a policy position being a chief legal counsel being you know community outreach person i and and a lot of them are very similar narratives a lot of our first in their family to go to college and there wasn't a career that sign up for government careers so what we right and we did is we started exposing. How can we in our world a city clerk platform to do as much good as possible and expand just on our our basic operations so with c._p._i. Chicago public schools we launched a civic engagement program for high school use called next gen city council. This will be our third year entering fall. We work with ten neighborhood high schools from roseland at finger and rosalyn have been eat their words in pilsen to michelle clark austin community and work with high school students to teach about local government and how you can be civically engaged in local government and make huge impact now and you don't have to wait until college or being adult you can you can know what's happening now and what's been the beauty of this is being able to see students come in and find their voice and sit tall and the aldermen seats and collaborations talk to other students from across the city about issues that are happening to them and then creating their own city ordinances that really impact what is happening in the community and then seeing them speak about these ordinances and voting on them and it is beautiful to watch and this actually after this last next gen z. council on may one of the ordinance in the top four that finished that the got the highest vote. I am personally introducing into city council so that they can see that their work actually made a law happen so i think those two examples and the third heard which is near and dear to my heart and i know to you too as well as women and girls so last october launched a women and girls group working groups the status status of women and girls and became up with twenty two recommendation with one hundred twenty women from all walks of life from the hotel workers unite here issue of executive president northern trust everyone in the middle high school students costumes etc and we said you know what we're not gonna wait for d. a._c. We're not gonna wait for springfield. We're going to save ourselves and with the twenty two recommendations that we came out on march eight this year four of those one of them are already done. Our recommendation is how far one is down with fair week work ordinance <hes> we are launching on friday our task force to look at a hundred high school in chicago on their sex education health education along with dr janice jackson scholar public school. You know we're working with the state. Police lieutenant governor juliana straaten gotten about how to clear the backlog for sexual assault ivan's kiss and hopefully by january will be launching the date and location for our young a young girl summit which will be next fall in twenty twenty with five hundred young girls coming together from thirteen to twenty four to talk about what a safety in chicago mean to them and <hes> here and how can we support them to thrive in chicago so it's very exciting things some are operational that touch my off it but having in this executive power and i really take it another step further and creating policies can do more by using the platform so anna. You are really really an inspiration i know and i know that when we look around we and you mentioned a couple of people other women in important positions in the state of illinois and there are women in similar positions in other states. This obviously is something very different than it used to be and so i'm wondering if you could talk a bit about <hes> you've talked a little bit about the pouncey partnerships but how you see this partnership with women like lieutenant governor <hes> and others rolling out as we look toward the next presidential and the possibility of electing a woman president and that was just sort of note parenthetically that if we are to elect a democratic president it will be d- do two women voters so wondering how you see that opportunity to organize yeah. I think it's imperative that women support women and that women who are powered empower other women. It's a no brainer actually if we're going to get to the white house that has to happen and so i've been very fortunate not to have these partnerships <hes> with some of the women being in illinois and here in chicago and cook county to really support the work and how do we amplify each other's work. How do we amplify each other's voices and one thing that i i'm hoping to do again this fall congresswoman more and underwood we also gave bus this last fall to our last election to go out and support her right organized and knock on doors. We had to drive an hour half out of chicago but there were twenty five women. Some didn't even know her that just got on a bus and went because how crucial it is to make sure we had women represent and congress uh-huh and even more so having an african american woman and part of the state representative was huge and so i think it's imperative we do that again that we get out the vote that we traveled to different states that we talked to our family members our neighbors our colleagues other women who may not be engaged in politics six or be engaged six. Do we have to push them too. Because this time around voting is not even enough we have to do some more so much more than just voting and we have to get uncomfortable and that's okay we have to get out of our comfort zones safety nuts in our little pockets of of <hes> they find in the city and there are women here in chicago and cooktown eat parts of the state that may not have the same views that we are that we have so we you have to find ways to communicate with them to say what can we find to compromise on. I'll give you a quick story over the weekend. I met this lovely woman who is a republican again and we were told not to talk about politics. Our friend made it very clear here different size but she started talking to me about politics and we we found ourselves at the intersection where we could actually agree noah's conservatives who is pro choice out of the conservative we agreed on <hes> <hes> she was a gun owner but she agreed on background checks you know out of the concert and climate change <hes> and so where can we go back to find those i read it in butter issues that women care about and not get caught up in the extreme rider extreme-left find ourselves to find common ground around for the good of women in the white house women in the governor's mansion now women in the mayor's office which is very exciting in chicago and women and a lot of other executive role. We have traditionally been overlooked and that's what i really wanna. Lend my life to is making sure that my legacy is young women and young women of color particularly with my shared experience or similar having the opportunity to get into these roles staying these role and be successful in these roles and and so that's what i hope to launch my life's dream to and hence someone in the white house and support and to <hes>. Could you give a little. Maybe advice for anyone who's thinking about either running for office themselves or wants to help their daughters. Maybe think about running for office. What what you want to to make sure they're thinking about outten focusing on i think for the daughter that confidence building can never start early enough. Just say yes to everything she wants to do. Never stifle her dreams. Nothing is too big. My parents were always always supportive of everything to do. Even if they didn't feel like they were my dad. I pull his friends that i was going through stage. When i was doing campaign work and then it was going to be out of that stage and i remember when i got my first business card with the senate the democrat he was like excited that i had a real job. He won't admit that now they understand what i was trying to do <hes> they we never stifled my dream which i can never say enough so if you have young daughters be supportive and whatever they want to do and second for women that want to run for office just do it. There's never the right time. There is never you're never going to have all the pieces together but if it feels feels right for you then do it and i think raising money was probably one of the hardest things that women candidates have to overcome that we as women have to be better job at writing for other women and making sure that we volunteer on the campaign help with petitions write checks support them in any way that we can and so when you decide to run. I think it's easier to kind of get the report. I think the hardest thing we do when we need to do a better job once this woman mm-hmm and get into office. How do we still support them because it can be very lonely at the top and especially of the woman of color and being young being thirty four coming into office that thirty two. I was very overwhelmed about how to lead. I was unsure authentically lead like a woman because i had seen only only men lead and <hes> some therapy some really strong women leaders of color to turn to. There's not a lot of us and a supportive husband really in support of friends. That really helped rally around me to make sure that i can be successful in this division because i'm not successful. Mayors festival juliana stratton is not successful can fox not successful dr jonas jackson's not successful then it'll be hard for any other woman to come and take come roll show. What am i seeing an. I love your phrase authentically. <hes> leaving like a woman and i wonder if you could just in closing thing share with us. <hes> you know what are the specific aspects of that leading. I know you mentioned collaborative efforts before you know what are the qualities because after all you know women have to in the same way men do they have to get more votes right and whether it's in the campaign ain't or you're presenting something the city council so can you share with a just a little bit about what those qualities are. I yeah definitely think relationship. Building relationships is everything in politics. I'm this is universal. Besides just under you have to be kind to people you you have to hear people. You have to give them an answer and be responsive. No is an answer but don't leave them in the gray area if you don't have relationships there's no collaboration. People have to trust you. They have to realize if you say you're going to do something that you do it and if you don't if you can't do it to give them i'm an answer and why you know maybe it's not this time but the next time so i think you have to you have to be communicated can't under i cannot underscore that if you cannot not communicate properly but the media message rather dot eu at townhall whether that between your own staff and team he will fail at it's huge and i think it's just this kind of intuition relationship building. You know being kind but i understand like being as you know. There's a tendency i think sometimes for women and women and the older generation. I don't wanna make it just everyone in the older generation but i understand i understood hillary a lot better this last cycle than i did the first time she ran for president. The first time i ran i ran for president with cousin obama and i didn't understand hillary the second time i was a lot older and i actually had been in position where understood where she was coming from to be the only woman in the room back in the early nineties he's to be doing the things she did was totally out of her element and not a lot of women doing that. So i think over time there are women who kind pardon themselves or guard themselves because it's a necessity to do this job and i find myself. Sometimes i guard goes up that distrust goes up that hardness to cover of yourself going on the battlefield comes up but you've got to find ways to stay connected to the work rounded to the work authentic to the work to not harding hurting yourself because voters can feel that you know people that you're trying to build relationships with other elected officials that you need can feel that and if you if you go ooh out approach to life you're not going to get very far so i would just say on a personal note that i'm part of that earlier generation as our listeners there's no and it you're speaking of and many times experience being the only woman in the room and i say constantly wherever i am dan it is so much better when you can share to work with other women and let your guard down and if you're feeling threatened <hes> you know the talk about it so i realized on really glad you mentioned that and i understand it because i think it was a totally different time and i've seen progress but still you you know or years ago or three years ago i found myself maybe to other women the room and it was a div that leave that meeting and go on needle confine them and ask them how to navigate something or how we were going to get our principals to turn their thinking or turn their direction so it's still it's getting a little easier but you know we saw ways to go my senior staff often last <hes>. We'll have a conversation like oh. It was exhausting. Today i had to the real world and deal with these other offices who aren't female ladder you know and so we laugh about it but it's still true we saw were to go but we have to understand the women that are ahead of us and the things that they've done and pay homage that and then the women that are coming up with new now at this age <hes> and and find our bridges to each other and support each other in the dust the way that we can. We'll speaking of supporting each other. We know that you've got lots to do. You feel that some of it i hope you'll come back and keep us posted so long as you <hes> i love that under full symposium and and all the rest of it so kelly any final words and then we say thank you yes i just i am so thrilled to see you know chicago and and really in a lot of ways illinois being led by women. I think it's it's so amazing to see and i i just i love the the work that you're doing and the ways is that that you're all working to try to make government more accessible and <hes> you know. It's just really fantastic so so thank you so much for that. Thank you thank you rebecca this. All things women as my favorite things might topics so i'm happy to come any time thinking thing the vote her in segment is a collaboration of two broad talking politics and author rebecca side our theme song called. Are you listening off of the album. Elephants shaped trees the band immunology and we're using it with permission of the band. Our logo and other original artwork is by matthew with lynn and was created for use by this podcast. I you can contact us at two broad talking politics at g mail dot com or on twitter facebook at two bronze talk you can find all of our episodes at two broads talking politics dot com or anywhere podcast or found.

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Motoweek - Valencia MotoGP Post-Race Show!

MotoWeek - MotoGP, Motorcycle and Racing News

28:54 min | 1 year ago

Motoweek - Valencia MotoGP Post-Race Show!

"From Moto Dot net. It's the motor week. PODCAST with your host Wilson to Valencia races provide fantastic connection while the third is filled with nothing but drama. Hello and welcome to the motorway post ratio for round nineteen of the World Championship at the Circuit Ricardo. tormo hormone in Valencia. My name is Wilson. I'm your host and I'll tell you I was really hoping for shootout between Marc Marquez. Imbaba quattro with this week encounter kind of setting us up for what might happen in twenty twenty and the build up was there all the way through qualifying and up to the start of the race. The the payoff though not so much. But it wasn't for lack of trying on fabulous part but we're the motor. GP race lacked in all out. Action Sunday invalid it more than made up for it in drama. The surprising podium by Jack Miller struggles for some factory writers one person desperately hoping to be a factory rider Ryder and then the uncertainty of the team championship made that race interesting. All the way until the end but the action of the weekend that was all provided by the lower classes. And that's exactly where we're going to start our conversation about the season finale with Moto three and this motor three race at the beginning was complete elite mayhem but not in the way you would typically imagine not really in a good way either. It all started with Aaron Kennedy Bike Dumping Fluid on the track on the siting being lab that brought out the first red flag and a long delay to start the race. Then there was that terrible wreck on lap three parole Dennis Foggia minding his own business. Then all of a sudden here comes Carlos tates bike ride across the track in front of him launching Fudgy into the air and causing his bike to catch fire fire. That of course led to another red flag and once things got under way we had another big wreck with Tony our Beleno Lawrence Adela Porta and John mcphee among others but for all of that negative drama at the beginning of the multiple races that we ended up having with all of those big name riders running into trouble. It completely really opened the door to some new faces up at the front and some absolutely thrilling racing to go along with that We had a trio of riders. You really wouldn't have expected up there. Sergio Garcia Andrea and then we had this sixteen year old wildcard entry for lay apart Honda in Chubby Artigas. Who was absolutely thrilling to watch in this race because he wanted it so bad and he just happened to be in position to make a run at the podium and we'll start With Garcia who by the way I love it that his abbreviation on the leaderboard is gas But he had a fantastic scrap over the final a few laps and coming off his maiden podium a couple of weeks back it's a pang racing at his home track. What a great moment and more importantly what a great move he? It was hard on the brakes up the inside of me. No in that final corner then he was pretty smart about it and he kind of pulled off a move. We saw out of Marc Marquez. A couple of races later later where he ran just wide enough to force me off his line and you take away any extra momentum you might have had and then it was easy for Sergio to outdragged Andrea to to the line and take his first ever victory so very smartly raced by him and he's very good move in that final corner to make it stick for menial though he might have lost out on this one but he certainly shouldn't be upset with the result after suffering through problem after problem the majority of the season. He's been fast all year long. I mean he had the podium back in Texas but beyond that every time it seemed like he had a decent race. Something strange or bizarre would happen to him so for me. No the comeback strong in the final race race of the year even though he just came up short of the women. It's still a fantastic effort. And a great boost for him heading into next season. And it would help if the case had just a little extra rumph to be able to hold off Garcia's Honda on the final lap and then we almost almost had the second wildcard winner in Rohit Valencia which Avi not guess he showed supreme confidence racing his way up to the front even getting past Leotard Honda Teammate Marcos Ramirez but it was just that one mistake and you can't hold it against him. I mean these in this first ever race but he made that one mistake where he ran wide in term one so easy to do and and that really cost him. I think a legitimate shot at the win but even with that it was an amazing performance by a youngster who nobody expected anything from And he did a fantastic burnout after the race to The only downside really for our is that he's not coming to lay on the next season their rosters already full with John Masa Austria and Dennis Foggia not that you will blame them for signing either of those riders but now at this point. I'm sure they're wondering whether they maybe should have made some room for Gherardi guests next season one way or the other. I think we're going to see him sooner rather than later emotive three probably four les apart. Honda a couple of other riders in this one. Man I'll tell you Totski Suzuki another another heartbreaker for Suzuki. I mean I. How many times? Tom's can this happen. One poor guy finishing one spot off the podium for the third time in four races and of course in that other race he was very much important contention when he got taken Out and if you think about and I know it's got to be very frustrating for him in for that team even but if you think about all of the near misses Mrs that. He's had this season if he'd been able to convert all of those podium opportunities and victory opportunities that he's narrowly missed out on the season season. I mean he could be in serious contention for the motor three championship. I mean he would have been maybe a top three or top five Ryder and and we would already be talking about him. As one of the routers to look out for in twenty twenty and I think we should be talking about him as one of the writers to look out for in two thousand twenty. Because that bad luck can't last forever right. All he's gotTa do is get a little bit better. Maybe get the bike a little bit better or have a little bit better strategy and with another year under his belt I I mean this was a great learning season for him so he could be primed to turn the corner in twenty twenty and then tell us team of Yeti. He didn't have a stunning race. He finished eighth but that was plenty enough for him to make the two thousand Nineteen Moto three rookie of the year. So congratulations to him. See your podium in the Moto Three Race Sergio Garcia his first I ever GP win and the writer. That wasn't even allowed to start the season because he was too young ends the season on a huge. Hi No I'm Andrea. Menial Joe was the veteran on the podium. Today he couldn't quite get it done needing a little bit more punch from his KTM but a great result nonetheless and he gets his first podium since all the way back in Texas at the beginning of the season and then Chubby artigas a fantastic debut for the youngster. Getting his first taste of motive reaction even if he wasn't allowed to get his first taste of Champagne afterwards in the championship allies. You know the title is long since been decided for Lorenzo Della Porta who got caught up in that wreck but despite his engine problems looms Aaron Kennedy was still able to finish sixth with smoke billowing from that thing for the first half of the race which is just a little disconcerting but he was still able to bring it home sex x which was really impressive impact. He got a huge boost from the second red flag because with his problems that caused the first rep like he had the start from the back of the grid while the second restart of the race because they had only run three laps they went back to the original starting order so he got moved back up to the second row he was able to make that stick for the a sixth place. Finish that allows him to preserve second overall in the championship to finish a season. Marcos Ramirez took advantage of Tony. Our Bolanos to wrecks in this to move up to third overall are Baleno finishes the season fourth and John mcfee on the shoulders of a very strong second push rounds out the top five year related great job over over the last eight or ten races of the season. So what started as a chaotic moto. Three raise turned into a thriller. We were hoping that it would carry over into Motoo and it did. I am before we get to the racing though first thing Emoto to those ponds flex box bikes looked absolutely killer and what made it better is. Somehow they were able to surprise Ito pants. how You keep an entire paint scheme from the team owners kind of be on me? But they did it. They had this excellent Retro livery celebrating Sito's Nineteen eighty-nine camps a Honda Championship winning bike. And they look fantastic right down to the leathers. Both riders leathers has had the same graphics as the bike to even have white wheels on the bike to definitely one of the best paint schemes of the year Very chance that they're gonNA show up on the award show at at the end of the year and they also took those bikes and one ponds the motives team championship as well so it was a great day for them and an awesome tribute to see it. Oh pants but onto the race and what a fitting follow up to the action that we saw moto three. Thanks I think. In large part to the layout of the more technical nature of Valencia. It seem to really match the triumph well and it kept pack routers close together. The result was a pretty tense. Standoff between Brad Bender and Tom Luther up at the front and in a frenetic battle in the closing laps between Steffano Manzi and Navarro for third. was there with that first battle and Brad Bender and if there is any any any doubt why he's headed to motor GP next season and getting shot at the factory bike. This race was just another reinforcing for example facing unusually stiff competition from Lucy Bender in this race he was patient. He tested moves in a few places and he was able to rein in his normally overaggressive style. Don't get me wrong was still aggressive. But he wasn't dragging the back end in the corners nearly as much as normal instead he you know I don't I wanNA say changed his tactics but he tempered his normal style of riding in the face of a tough battle and paid off in the end. He was relentless enough to not give up after multiple attempts to pass were rebuffed by Lucy but he was calculating enough to save a little bit for the end so when he did finally make a pass on Leuthi stick then he was able to pull the pin on the final lap and a half or so and leave that vote bike in the dust. And not taking anything away from Miguel Olivera. Because I'm a big fan of Miguel Olivarez. He's a very smart router. I think he's GonNa be very good writer once they start to get that. KTM sorted out. But you know. I still I cannot wait to see what Brad Bender is able to do on that. KTM because he's definitely got the potential the way he rides and now the maturity that he's starting to show he's got the potential all to help them break through to the next level. I don't know about next season immediately but within the next two years or so so it was a phenomenal rabbi bender and and then Tom Lutheran and I know he didn't win but what about the fight out of Lutheran this one. Yes bender eventually. Got The best of him but this this Tom Leuthi is the writer. I was hoping to see earlier in the season. When he legitimately had a chance to take on Alex Marquess he was so good on the brakes in this race and determine one and then several times when dinner tried to make a move? Luther kept coming right back at him to retake the lead and that kind of tenacity. That's data what was missing for a good part of the season from Louisiana. A little bit of it at the beginning. And then he had it in the last couple of racism especially here Valencia but he lost that killer instinct he lost that extra edge in the middle of the year. And that and that alone I think is the difference between him and Alex Marquez in this championship or him being able compete with Marquez and him not being able to compete with Marquez in the title race it was good to see Of course it was just too little too late not just in the championship but also for second overall in the points. which will we'll talk about in the second so we had a great battle between those two guys more of a chess match between bender leuthi throughout the majority of this really Bo when it came came to Navarro instep Manzi that was just a slug fest over the last couple of laps? Those guys put on a genuine show. Battling for Third Navarro trying trying to put a cap on what's been a fantastic debut season on the speed up and Manzi desperately wanting to score his first podium any road like it And he came closer than he ever has. At least in the middleweight class. He almost scored a podium back in. Modo three. But Manzi on that last lap. I don't know if you guys noticed this or not. But when he passed Navarro at one point it looked like he came from a half mile back to take third. I have no clue how he made up that that much. Ground going into the Corner Eh. made it stick without wrecking or running wide or running into Navarro And that was a lot of fun. But obviously Navarro's corner speed eventually won out and he ended up finishing the year with another podium. Even if he couldn't muster up a win and the last right. I WanNa talk about in this mode to race Alex Marquez. And here's the thing with me OK. Alex wrecked not a big deal at all though it could have been. We'll talk about that in a second as well but he got back up on the bike and he finished and that was cool he finished because it was in Spain he won the championship and everything. But come on man. You don't finish thirtieth and then do a championship victory celebration in the gravel trap. I mean I understand understand because Mark Canada did the same thing they did the fireworks. It wasn't that big of a deal. They should left the dart at home. If they would have just done the fireworks it would have been fine really what he should have done. Stop stop go over there. Climb up the fence wave to the fan club you know celebrate with them. Fireworks are okay. The Dart they should have just left a dart in sepangar wherever it was set of the podium in this brad been there his third win in a row. His fifth of the season and all of those victories have come since the rebel ring phenomenal. Second half of the season for him and great closer for Tom Lucy. He ends the year with four consecutive podiums. Sadly though not only does it come too. Who Late for the championship? But it also comes too late for second overall and then Hey Navarro he was thirteenth and fourteenth and his first two Mo- two seasons so then he moves over to speed up and I mean. Wow what a turnaround. What a season eight podiums on the air? He winds up fourth overall in the championship and speaking of the championship Alex Marquez of course had already won the Motoo title him Man. That timing couldn't have been any better for him to have the season he had with the result Zolt. He had for two reasons number one. He wins this championship at exactly the right time. When a rep salt factory becomes unexpectedly available and the number two? He does it in a year. Where Brad Bender stumbles out of the gate because if the KTM writer had not started the year so badly Ma'am what could have been? It would have been phenomenal battle. Right down to Valencia between those two guys because bender finished the year. Get this three three three points behind little marquess and hopefully I did say Alex. The entire time on the having to settle for third in the championship Navarro The aforementioned and fourth as he finishes his breakout season and Augusta Fernandez rounds out the top five with very strong middle part of the season with a couple of wins in there. I think three But he wasn't all that strong at the beginning and the end. That was the difference for him. And Bobby Ojeda Antonio wins the two thousand eighteen rookie of the year title and Motoo so with excellent racism moto three ammo to do. The pressure was on for the Premiere class to wrap up the season in spectacular style and it certainly was interesting and exciting for eight laps. Then mark marquess past Fabio cultural and that that was all she wrote Even the battle for third between Jack Miller Andre Video so and Alex rinsed fizzled out eventually. But that doesn't mean we don't have something to talk about multiple things actually to talk about in this race and we'll start with Marquez because Marquez's has is winning run wasn't just big because it was his twelfth victory of the season although that's pretty impressive but because with that victory he singlehandedly Diddley. He did. He beat out both factory to Kati riders to win the team championship and the triple crown for Honda. Well actually we do have to be honest here because he didn't do it all by himself. Because in the end Lorenzo and stuff rattled there points did make the difference without Lorenzo scoring some points without brattle scoring a couple of points then marked by himself. Couldn't beat both Danilo Petrucci and Andrea Da Vinci. Also but I mean we gotta be honest. There's no question that it was marks effort the last three or four races of the season that brought an and incredibly unlikely team championship home to the Repsol Honda Garage and it only adds to his legendary season. I mean look at these. Number's four hundred and twenty points. Nineteen races but four hundred twenty points. Twelve victories only one race one race ace all season long where he failed to finish either first or second and of course that was when he wrecked out of the lead in Texas even mark himself in park like I said. I'm not sure I can do this again. It was so close to perfect. I'm not quite sure. I can replicate it. I mean this was up there with you. Know Lorenzo in two thousand thousand ten with mcadoo in in nineteen ninety-seven with Valentino Rossi. And say two thousand and two two thousand three two thousand four in that area. I mean one one of the best seasons. Although it's arguable definitely arguable you could go back to any of those riders. I just mentioned plus a couple of others and say that they had equally as good of a season but when you talk about just the stranglehold that he had on the competition right up there with the best of doing 'em Rossi and all of the other Mo- GP greats rates. And I think that just as important almost as important to wrap up the season once again Mark Marquez was able to establish that even though Fabio Quattro Wpro is shaping up to be a real challenge to his title to His throne that the rookie and Yamaha still have some work to do if Fabio wants to keep up and honestly. That's pretty much how you would expect mark to finish this particular season by doing something incredible winning the team title and by making that kind of statement into the competition that no. No you're not GonNa get to me yet. Maybe one day but not today so I think you're really summed up for the most part his two thousand nineteen season but Wabe Okwara got beat. Remember we've got to keep in mind whenever we talk about Fabio. He's a rookie. I satellite team. And he's he's still not on exactly the same equipment as factory guys. That's coming next year yet. He still able to keep touch with mark heathen finished that far behind Marc Marquez. Yes on a day. When mark was stunningly? Good victory or not that was an amazing performance by Fabio Sharara. And you know. I've talked about this past couple of weeks. We've got to always remember that. He's writing for a satellite team that he's a rookie because he's been so good after the first third of the season when he was trying to figure out the bike that but now we expect him to finish on the podium. We expect him to compete with mark. We expect them to be able to go out there and potentially even beat Marquez and so when he has a sixth or seventh the place finish we think oh man things are going well but they are. I mean any other satellite writer would be thrilled to have a sixth place finish cell and I have to remind myself all the time to that. Hey we gotta give him some time. I mean he's still developing he still doesn't have the best bike yet. And when you think about this race it makes it all the more impressive when you think of it in that perspective. Because he did this on a day finished second on a day when Yamaha wasn't all that good I mean he finished nearly seven seconds ahead of Maverick Fan. y'All isn't sex and nearly twenty two seconds ahead of Valentine Rossi back in eighth and for him to have seven podiums and six poles in his rookie season really early. All he has left to do on his wish list is get a win and then be able to challenge mark. And I'll say the same thing for Bobbio that had just said about Marc Marquez. This was a very fitting way for him to finish the season. One spot behind mark. Because he's the writer. We expect to be chasing Marc Marquez. Next season on and just like this was an important podium for the two riders in front of him. Because you know mark wins the team championship and Fob reinforces that he is going to be the Challenger next year it could turn out to be almost almost as big of a podium. For Jack Miller in Third Jack was fast but very inconsistent at the start of the season but he's lessen that gap between the peaks aches and valleys in the second half and in the process. He scored five podiums this year and this one was properly impressive. In fact I think this was his most impressive performance. It's over all of the entire year qualifies on the Front Row. Doesn't get or need any help from anyone falling down or having issues he was simply fast. He was fast from lights out. It was in the dry and at a place. That really isn't much of a do coty track at all and he does does it on the day when Danilo Petrucci out for the second time in three races essentially ceiling Dukakis fate in the team championship. So if SA- big F but if there's any truth to those rumors that Takata is considering a rider swap Jack's performance Sunday could very well be the deciding factor because if if they were on the fence about what to do this race probably made it pretty clear for them which direction they should go and keep in mind. Patricia did have win earlier in the season. But that was his. Success was really confined to that one area. Before that he was a contestant six place rider which was good then he had the podium. The wind the podium again will Jack Miller ended the season with a two more podiums than patrol did and of course ended the season much stronger than Danila pitchy. so some other items. I WanNa talk about that. Didn't finish on the podium starting with John Zarco and Mike Gosh how lucky was Arco. That was such a scary incident when eagerly Cologne is by came flying through the gravel and right into a very unsuspecting Joan and I thought for sure at that point. I couldn't even watch the end of it. After the bike Kim. I was certain that he broke both ankles but he must have an awesome pair boots because in the end he was relatively okay. He was complaining of some ankle pain which is perfectly understandable but other than that. He said he was fine. They took him back to the pit box. He wrote on a scooter. Back to the pit box and that was that so it was really really. Hey good to not see him have to go to the hospital after that. Incident For Maverick Gaullism Valentino Rossi man coming off that momentum building first and fourth and Sapang hang they were positively disappointing in Valencia. And you could use worse words than that. Neither factory rider was able to hold a candle to five Fabio Quad Charro. Neither one was able to get anywhere close to the podium in this race. Hopefully those guys have something revolutionary to roll out in Tuesday's test because they they desperately need it and then for Halo Renzo all right well. He didn't finish fifth like I predicted but he did score some points. I mean it was mostly because a bunch of guys in front of Iraq. But still you take what you can get and he score points in his final race. I'm sure it was not the result. He wanted or the season Zain that he wanted or the decision career decision that he wanted but it was definitely great to see the tributes the reception. He got from the fans before and after the race and his team after the races. Well and speaking of last races have Syrian also had his last motor. GP Race for now at least and he scored a point as well. So congratulations to him. So you're podium and this one Marc Marquez. His twelfth victory of an astonishing two thousand eighteen season and it also wins the triple crown for Honda and the team. Championship Fabio Abiocor. Ro Finishes Second Locks Down The independent writer title to go along with his rookie of the year and while he may not have one he definitely reinforced that he will be contender. In Two thousand twenty. As long as Yamaha gives him the best bike possible then rounding out the podium. Jack Miller is this the most important podium Miller's career the rumors are true then it very well could be but even if they aren't it was still a fantastic ride for Miller in this one in the championship Marc Marquez won won the two thousand nine hundred title by ready for this one hundred and fifty one points over Andrea the one hundred fifty one think about I second that means in hindsight. He could've sat out six races this year and still be dove by point. That's absolutely crazy. maverick Venezuela's did just well enough to hang onto third overall in the championship. Alex rings has to settle for fourth am with his seventh podium of the season. Coiro zero passes Danilo Petrucci for fifth overall and not only is he the second highest Yamaha and the championship but he beat out eight. He beat out eight factory riders in the standings into thousand nineteen. So my take on this one moto three a motive to were excellent races and while motor. GP ended up being a bit boring boring in the closing laps. It's certainly played directly into all of the big rumors and storylines heading into the offseason with protrusion Zarko Struggling Miller. We're being shockingly good and coiro pressing Marquez. On a day where Valentino Rossi again. Struggled as he nears decision time for twenty twenty one so for me. It was two third grade racing one third grade drama and I'll take that as a fitting weekend close the season that's my opinion of the. GP What did you think will leave your comments on facebook look at facebook dot com slash motor week dot net and overarm read it at our slash mode a week. 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Motoweek - Valencia MotoGP Pre-Race and Test Preview!

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1:13:53 hr | 2 years ago

Motoweek - Valencia MotoGP Pre-Race and Test Preview!

"From Moto dot net. It's the motor week podcast with your host Wilson. Why? Hello and welcome to motor week. My name is Wilson. Thank you so much for listening to the only Moto GP show on the internet. I think Valencia is the start of the fun. Not the end of it. Why? While even though Valencia is the Pinelli of the two thousand eighteen motor GP season. It is also the beginning of two thousand nineteen and there are a lot of things about two thousand nineteen that I can't wait to find out about sell. Not only will we preview Sundays two thousand eighteen season finale on the show with our normal breakdown of the track and the teams in the contenders along with my very bad picks for the race. But then we'll also preview the Valencia tests and talk about all of the riders on the move the incoming rookies, and I'll give you five things to watch for once the off season drama gets underway Tuesday. Plus, we got your comments to you guys. Had a lot more to say about a possible Rossi Marquette showdown in Sapang. We'll also chat about Moto e in the comments section as well. And we'll talk variety of motor GP news with everything from Casey Stoner to Tito robotic Andre video. So and an impending shake-up at Yamaha. There are many details rounding it, but it is coming directly from the boss's mouth in Lynn Jarvis some which out about that. At the end of the show before we get to the full run down for the program. I do own will bite you over to the website. If you have not checked it out yet at Moto week dot net. You can also follow along on Twitter at Moda, weak and most importantly, stop by the Facebook page Facebook dot com slash Moto week dot net. Not only is it your opportunity to talk to other awesome motorcycle fans. But it's your chance to tell me what to talk about on the show. So any opinion is welcome there. And try and get as many of the comments on the show as possible switchers up there right now Facebook dot com slash mode week dot net. Do me favor when you get there. Just click the like button, right below Marco human Celli. I'd appreciate it. All right. So let's get down to business though rundown for today's show everything while just about everything that we're gonna talk about and we are going to start with your Facebook comments with Alan Tino Rossi have beat Marquette since bang. You guys still had a lot more to say about it. So that's how start a discussion. We'll also talk about electric racing and Ramona fanatic who may may be coming back. I'm not making this up in two thousand nineteen that will move onto motor GP news where the old guys are officially coming back. Emoto e the entire field has been announced m one writer, I was not expecting at all. So we'll talk about that particular writer and actually all of the old guys that are coming back to our newest racing series. I mean, then forget what you saw in Australia. Forget what you saw and Sapang Yamaha says that means nothing we are shaking things up heading into the off season at straight from the mouth of Lynn Jarvis. What does it mean while we'll try and decipher it because unfortunately, Linden give us too much to go on. Then Casey sonar officially is saying to do Coty bud is he headed back the Honda. Well, some people are saying he very well might be. We'll talk about whether he could actually do it or not without shoulder injury. Then we've got a couple of stories wrap up the first half of the show, including mar Marquez having a really really big party to celebrate his championship. And somehow, and I'm not quite sure how this happened. My invitation got lost in the mail. But I won't hold it against you. Mark. I know that you'll have me there next year when you win. Matter up the first half of the show when we come back from the break, we're talking Balenciaga a lot about the Lenzi, obviously, we're going to start with this weekend's race. We'll talk about the track the manufacturers contenders. A couple of other riders to watch for and then I'll make my picks. Usually that's where we wrap up the show. But in this extended version the Moto week we're going to move on and talk about what's happening after the race. And that is the first official tests for the two thousand eighteen season. Everybody's going to be wearing new leathers. We'll talk about the riders on the move. We'll talk about the new rookies coming into the series, and I'll wrap up the show by giving you five things to watch for in. What should be a very very entertaining Valencia tests might not mean a whole offer next season in who's going to be good and who's not. But boy, I don't know about you. But I cannot wait to see some of these riders which bikes see what KTM does or Hiller Enzo Repsol Honda others. I mean, there's so much look forward to. So that's how we'll wrap up the show. All right. Let's get things started now with your Facebook comments. And after I extended the question. And last week on whether Valentino Rossi Amar Marquez would have battled all the way down to the checkered flag in Sapang had Rossi not made his mistake. You guys had a lot more to say about it. And I want to talk about some of the comments because Craig who actually is a Valentine a Rossi fan says, hey, valet crashed into paying for one reason. And one reason alone due to the pressure from Mark marquess? And that's a big thing. Coming from a member of the yellow army. I mean, and if it's true that the pressure really did get the Valentino, I'm certain it's something he would never admit to. And I wouldn't blame him for that. At all. Heck, I wouldn't say it out loud. I don't think any motor GP rider would say after Raissi Iraq because feeling the pressure from the guy who was catching me. I mean, they just not built that way. I'm but even with that being said, I'm still not one hundred percent convinced that it was the pressure for Marc Marquez that caused Valentino to wreck. I mean, there is no way didn't factor in at least a little bit. Because when a rider is gaining on you and guy, you really really wanna beat. Yeah. You push. A little harder. Maybe instinctually maybe because of the realization of who that guy is that's chasing you down. But it's still Valentino Rossi. And this is a guy who's seen everything. And he's been in some pretty epic battles in some way, higher stakes situations with the best riders in the sport. And because of that, I would think it would take a little bit more than six tenths gap tomorrow marquess to get them rattled. But I mean, I guess you never know. But I'm just not there yet on now. Michael am Ricky they're both thinking along the same lines. And they said, hey, this was more the bike being unable to do. What balancing a wanted? It to do rather than the pressure. Getting the best of him. And you'll Michael makes a really good point. He said this wasn't the traditional, you know, front end washout. It wasn't a matter of guy over cooking it into the corner because he was pressing too hard. And then the front and just gave out on Rossi's wreck started at the rear when he began to apply the power, and then the bike just slid out from under him and Valentino said he didn't approach that particular. Corner any differently than he had on the previous laps in the race. And I tend to buy that because it wasn't really crunch time yet, he still did have a gap between himself and marquess. Even if that gap was getting smaller and smaller, and in the end, the m one did what the m one does or has done for the past year and a half it just gives up traction on the throttle. And it just happened to do it at the worst possible moment when he was leading and trying to hold off Mark. And Mark himself said, hey, I noticed the laboratory prior that valet was starting to struggle with the bike when it came to rear grip now Ricky agrees with that. But he went a step further. And he said that when he watched what happened to Valentina while leading the race and made him a little bit concerned for next year with the spec, I'm you showing up because in his opinion when you think about Yamaha's problems and know that they're pointing to the electron IX as one of the major causes while they're probably closer to the situation. You would have with a spec. I. AM you then say Honda or do Khadijeh are right now. So Ricky's fear is that everyone is going to have similar problems next year to what Yamaha suffering with right now. And you know, what that is a possibility, although the hog is have also pointed to the engine characteristics as being a major part of their problem as well. And as we all know Honda Takada use a different engine configuration that seems to negate or minimise the types of problems that the one is having, but I get what you're saying Ricky, and that is part of the double edged sword of having spec. Electron IX from start to finish on one hand. You're leveling the playing field because everyone absolutely has to have the same parameters or work in the same box, but going to the spec IM you next year is going to eliminate the possibility for do Coty Honda. Anybody else to manipulate that data going to the issue, and it's far more likely to reduce performance for Honda and do khadi than it is to raise performance for? Everyone else and bring them up to their level because they're doing something extra right now. But I will say this do not underestimate how clever those teams and those engineers are. And I'm sure there are two thousand nineteen bucks. We're going to see it. This falente test already have engine and setup tweaks designed specifically to minimize any negative impact of the spec. IMU and the electron not being able to be altered from start to finish in the chain. So I wouldn't be too concerned about it. But yeah, you know, I don't doubt that there is going to be at least a little bit of a drop off when it comes to Honda into Qadi compared to Yamaha or especially to Suzuki ING KTM in apprecia- beginning back on track. Fred agreed that Rossi's tires were toast. That was the main reason why he recommends a Pang and he reminded us all that really. When it comes down to it. The tires are the key to any writer in any race. And I think that's part of the reason that the Amaha guys are so eager to get the testing that two thousand nine hundred engine. I mean, one of the big. Keys to Yamaha's success over the past say decade or so has been their ability or was their ability to develop the idea of the cross plane crankshaft engine better than anyone else. And it was a big advantage at the time because it put down its power in a far more tractable way than the screamer sequential fire fours, and that resulted in better drive out of the corner and better tyre management. But that of course, got everyone else experimenting, and it's Hearns out that the same big bang concept applied to be four motor seems to a bested the in line configuration. So now it's back to the drawing board for Yamaha to either redesign or remand edge there engine why not to get more power. But instead to get power. That's more tire friendly getting back to Fred's point. So yeah, the tires really are the key. And that's really what all of the design and development, not only of the chassis in. But the engine to that's what it's all based on. I mean, heck Honda change their entire engine configuration in one offseason to that. Same end and Cates. Tim did it in. In the middle of a season just to get better power delivery to manage tires in a better way. And so, yeah, it does trivialize it a little bit to say it's all about the tires because there's obviously a lot more that goes into it or a lot more going on. But ultimately, no matter what you do. It all comes down to that part of the bike that makes contact with the pavement. That's what gets you to the end of the race about it straight off topic. We were supposed to be talking about Valentine hussy Marquette so getting back to Craig and the other Valentine Rossi fans out there, you know, maybe it was the pressure. Maybe it was due to something on the bike. And maybe if Valentino had stayed on the bike. There was no chance that he would have won one way or the other. But either way no matter what your opinion is my position this weekend going into Balenciaga is that the doctor has something extra approve based on what happened in Subang. Do you agree? Do you think that the motivation of trying to erase the idea, you know, that Mark got into his head or that? He couldn't hold off Marquez. Do you think that that's going to help? Him this weekend. Do you think it's going to hurt him? Or do you think it's really neither here nor there? I mean, because we all know the Valentino is a guy who loves to have a rivalry. He loves to have that extra motivation. And I don't know if wrecking out while leading the races enough because it's not the same as you know, when those guys went at it in two thousand fifteen minutes, a bang, but I still think that maybe just maybe Valentino is hearing all those comments here. He here's the he listens to the show, obviously. And here's us talking about. And he thinks you know, I'm gonna show everybody. I'm going to go out there, and I'm gonna beat Marc Marquez at his own game at his own track. Now, that's a big ask. I don't know if that's really what he can do or not. But do you think that's extra motivation for him? Because I think it might be extra motivation heading into this weekend, especially knowing that has very little to lose by going after Mark. I'm now Damon actually moved away from the tired debate in favor of Mark simply being more nations rider than Valentino. And that's why if they both stayed on the bike. Was kind of inevitable that Mark was gonna win. And I know that sounds a bit trivial. But it's a real thing. I mean, Mark Mark has has yet to have a really bad crash where he's had an injury or had to sit out one or more rounds. And we all know that valet has had no serious injury multiple times. And while none of these guys I would never accuse any mo- GP rider being afraid of anything. I definitely do think that riders that have crossed that line into a serious injury have a little bit better picture of their own mortality, maybe just a tiny bit. But a little bit better picture of their own mortality than those riders. Who haven't had the big wreck yet? And I think it does make a difference. You know, a slight difference for sure, but emoji peed. That's all it takes. I mean, it's the slightest of differences it's up rates the guy who wins on any given week from the guys who finished second or third or the champion from you know, the contenders who couldn't quite make it there. And you know, that's why when Damon says, hey, if this had been thirty year old Rossi we would. A much different story in the Malaysian GP. I agree because Rossi ten years ago would have definitely been willing to risk a lot more than the Rossi today. And now don't get mad at me VR Forty-six fans because the negative way I've seen it in the realistic way. Obviously, if you've been through tunnel expert for you're going to have a much more realistic idea of what could happen and somebody who hasn't been in that position before I'm now decks is another Valentino Rossi fan who thinks that Mark may have gotten the better of valley in Subang youth. Both riders have been able to keep the sticky side on the pavement, and it's hard to argue with that point. But I do think it would have been close, and we talked about this on the past couple of shows that there was still some ground decent amount of ground for Mark to makeup not allowed to lapse to do it in and not only did he have to catch the forty six, but he had to find a way to pass Valentino as well, which might have been pretty difficult for a guy who hasn't won in that long. You know, who doesn't want to give up that position. But one way or the other decks, Mike, I agree with you guys that it was just a shame that we did not get to see that battle. Play out. Could we see this weekend? Though. I don't know, you know, when I think about it going back to that motivation question a minute ago with Valentine Rossi. The I don't think there are too many obstacles to hold valet back from being important contention again this weekend with where he Lorenzo banged up. Cal crutch low on the shelf, and this really isn't Mavericks type of race track. But being near the podium is one thing for Rossi. But doing what he did in Sapang an opening up a gap on Mark. And then trying to hold him off. All that is something completely different especially when you're talking about Valencia even with valet being near the pointy end of the field. Most of the day, which I think you will be I'm not sure that he can necessarily keep pace with Mark. Because Mark is just so good at this track. And a really hasn't been Valentino's Cup of tea for a while. Now, as we'll talk about when we get to the second half of the show, but let's move on from Sapang and talk about some things that are going to happen in the future or might happen in the future. And we'll start with Jamie who asked about Mick Doohan slap on the motorway bike in Australia and said, hey is this series going to be exciting at all. I mean, if you're not paying attention, you could totally miss the entire field going by and Jamie know, that is a very valid question. And it is really the biggest challenge for the motivations 'em really electric bike racing in general. And I don't know if many of you even remember this. But this is not this modal. You championship is not the first time that the F I M has tried to have an electric bike series. That was associated with Motegi p the first shot at it was quite a few years back now. Although for me, it seems like yesterday not that show find much info on the internet about it because they don't like to really bring much attention to it nowadays, why will because outside of the genius. That was Michael says being involved in that series on you can Google him. It was pretty bad all the way around. It was pretty much a Rome, which LeBron's type series and not in a particularly good way. I mean, you have very well funded organizations and riders on one side, and then on the other you had guys who put stuff together in their backyard, and that's very romantic, but it's not very good for a lot of excitement or for being taken very seriously for that matter, and I remember because they ran these at Laguna Seca, and I remember seeing the bikes at the tent like the manufacturers of the electric bucks sewed have attention like all the other manufacturers, you could check out their bikes skied even taking for a little spin around the parking lot, right? They would take the same bikes that we're the display bikes and put him in the race. So like, I said it was very seat of the pants. They ran the two years in a row and a at Laguna Seca, and it was a little bit odd. I mean when the bike's went by and if you're curious it is exactly like the promotional videos that you see on motor GP dot com. All you'd hear when the pack of bikes go by is the one of the electric Motors and kind of a wish from the tires as they all went. Down the track, and I will admit that on a warm summer day with the sun shining down. You could literally forget that. There was a race going on. So Jamie right excitement is going to be their biggest challenge because something is thrilling and dangerous as motorcycle racing. You know, that sound really adds to the overall level of excitement. Now that being said this nation of bike racing should be a lot better than the F I M E power championship Harib our road racing series, or whatever they called it a better bikes spec. Bikes cross the board better racing and riders at everyone is heard of some of which we'll talk about in a minute. Will it be enough to overcome the lack of the epoch sound of field of motor GP bikes? I don't know I'm willing to give a chance I'm actually very excited about the series. I can't wait to see it. But I don't think it's going to replace motor GP anytime soon mobile just leave it at that. I'm and then the last story before we get to the motor GP news. A Chris brought up Ramona finan. And the fact that he may actually becoming back in two thousand nineteen with his former mayor Nellie snipers team that would be a motive three not Motoo. But Christopher said, hey, could he even come to the Valencia test? He doesn't have a license. No. I mean without that license. I can't imagine he will be allowed into any official open tests without that license or some sort of prior approval of from Dorna emoji p. And now, I guess you could do a privatised, I guess that will be okay. But the thing is as crazy as the sounds that they might have him come back. I don't see any reason why it couldn't happen. And I'm just thinking from a technical sampling because as far as MotoGP is concerned endorsed a he served his to race penalty. He sat out to racism more. And now the FEMA revoked his license for the remainder of two thousand eighteen but he technically could apply for a new one at the end of the year if he sat down and was really really nice to them. Now. Whether any of that sitting out two races or the rest of the year. Whether any of that was an actual punishment of that's up for debate. You know, some people might say he served his time. But I think he got an early vacation from a bike that he was running horribly on. I mean, he was probably happy to not have to run out the rest of the season. But the Marinelli guys apparently like him a whole lot. I mean finale is still on their website as their writer. His picture is there along with Tony Arboledo and chubby card LS is you know, he just gets a line of mention that he took over after San Marino. And that's it. No picture nothing. Now, the part I don't understand is why that Marinelli team wants him so badly. I mean, I guess they just aren't able to find any young talent that they're impressed. By mean, Tony our Bellina wasn't exactly letting things up in Moto three and unimagined finale comes cheap mean, he's one racist before for them. And he almost won the championship. Now, really? But kind of came close to winning a championship. But is all of that worth the potential risk when there's so many other writers out there. I mean, that's what I be considering before I have him sign any contract. I will say though, I'm very impressed with Ramona phonology because this guys like the John Gotti of motorcycle racing nothing. He does sticks to him. I mean, no matter how many times he resorts to his old antics and ups, the ante it just never seems to catch up to himself. I guess more power to him and more power to the team. I certainly wouldn't wanna race alongside of him. And I'll tell you at some point when he does something ridiculous again. And he will then both Dorna and the FAM are going to have to make some sort of real final determination about his future. Because just like I said when the whole thing happened back in San Marino. There are a ton of riders out there that would do anything for a ride and motive to motive three except pool. Stupid crap. Like what Ramona finale did? And when there are so many other valid riders so many other talented broaders out there that don't bring that baggage with them and aren't that ticking time bomb in a why don't those guys get opportunities. I don't get why fanatic keeps getting chance after chance over those particular riders. So I don't know maybe those guys are meant for each other. But I I think it's a very very strange situation. And it'll be very uncomfortable for everyone. If Ramona fanatic comes back, just don't hold your breath that he's going to be, you know, on the straight narrow from this point forward because how many times in the past has he bitten himself by doing something stupid. Although apparently not enough if teams keep asking him back. All right. So those are the comments that we've got for this week. If I didn't get yours at doesn't mean, I didn't read it or didn't like it. It just means we've got a huge show, especially with Valencia test preview coming up, and I want to make sure we get it all in so keep leaving those comments Facebook dot com slash motor week dot net. And I will try and get your comment on next week show about thanks to everybody who post him. All right. So let's chat about the Mona GP news. Now because I was shocked when I saw the headlines this week about the aforementioned Moto championship because I was expecting an announcement that Troy Corser was going to be joining the ranks of Moto e for two thousand nineteen. But instead it is not Mr. coarser. In fact, he's not participating at all that we know of but Seta Gabar now. That's right, lookout Valentino Gabar is back. He'll be racing for the CTO pods team next year. He's forty five years old makes me feel young man that makes balancing or OSCE look like a young whippersnapper in comparison. But with giver confirmed along with rainy Poon. Yeah, he's going to be in the series. Officially Alex to Angeles is going to be racing. You know, actually liked the makeup of the series quite a bit. I mean, you've got these very recognizable stars of the past alongside very young up and coming riders than a couple of modo GP veterans inbetween with Bradley Smith, and our recent mortgagee veterans with Bradley Smith of your Semion. Nikki totally from Moto to Mike to make Lou who wanted to fifty championship. See get a little bit of everything and don't underestimate the importance of those very recognizable names of the past and present in this series. Not only does it make it more legitimate. But it's also going to provide some measure against which the young routers can challenge themselves. You know, even if in reality the challenge of beating Bradley Smith is going to be much higher for those younger riders than the challenge of beating somebody like give her now or Alex to Angeles who is you know, further along in their career. Let's just say I think it makes it a lot more fun. And I think it makes it a lot more relatable to us everyday fans. I mean think about it for a minute set Gabar now is going to be on the same grid as Bradley Smith and Matteo Ferrari with his awesome. Last name. We think about the range of ages there and the range of experiences there. It's going to be interesting to see. So even though like we were talking about earlier, they don't have the sound on their side, you know, typically cap to f- IM and Dorna because they're doing a heck of a job. Pulling out all the stops to try make this series as entertaining as possible. So I really think they've done a fantastic job. So far, no about you. But I can't wait to see what happens when those bikes and those riders of all ages and sizes get on the track. All right. So let's move on to Yamaha because crash dot net didn't interview with Lynn Jarvis. And he says, hey, we all know that we had a good race at Sapang. We know that we had a good race in Australia and the things we're actually pretty good in Thailand and the factory riders very optimistic. Jarvis though was bit more guarded about the prospects. And he said that Yamaha pants do not need to worry. They're absolutely positively will be changes at Yamaha over the off season that go beyond the new crew chief from Africa Daniela's, he said that new engineering talent is going to be brought him from both within Yamaha and outside the organization and that the engine and the electron IX will be their main focus in winter testing. No, he wouldn't really give out any more details than that other than to say that they already. Have a new engine ready to go that has better power delivery characteristics than the current one. But obviously Jarvis wouldn't reveal any of the details. Whether they changed the configuration or whether it was just internal adjustments or electron adjustments. But for the faithful one way or the other. That's good news. Of course, the issue for Yaba, high end do khadi and Suzuki for that matter is that you know, that Marc Marquez and Honda are going to get better. So just taking a step forward and making a change to get level. With them isn't going to be enough. I mean Yamaha and everybody else needs a leap forward. They need to get ahead of Honda knowing that Honda is inevitably going to catch them again. So that point they'll be on equal footing. But at least it's good to know two things that number one Yamaha is taking things seriously and number two. And this is a question that you guys have had on the Facebook page for weeks. Now, you guys have asked. Hey is Yamaha just gonna look at what happened in Australia and Sapang? And a little bit of Thailand and SilverStone and practice and say, oh, you know, we've got it solved and rest on their laurels. According to lend Jarvis. It does not appear that that is the case that they are not taking or reading any more into their recent results or the recent success than any of us are so not only is that the right approach to take. But it's also a great sign not only for Yamaha fans. But for those of us who wanna see better competition wanna see more riders and more teams compete for the championship in for race wins every week, and it seems like Yamaha's heading in the right direction will really find out starting Tuesday in Valencia and speaking of Valencia Tita robot is coming back to but not to race. Actually, I'm after that crazy incident and SilverStone where he got hit by Franken Morbedelli's bike and had a severe break of his leg. Tito said he will be back on the bike again in Valencia but not in the race instead in the official season and test. Now that announcement also pretty much confirms what we thought but had. Been made official yet that Tito will in Deby continuing on with the Vinci to Qadi next season writing GPA eighteen Carell Abraham will be his new teammate on a GP seventeen. Savvier Semion will be headed off to Moto e and you know, after one of the most unusual multi bike incidence in a long time. It is really really good to see the Tito is back to the point where he can ride again. Even if he admits that he's not up to one hundred percent quite yet. After what he went through just to see him back on the bike at all is a really really good thing. But one rider, we will absolutely not be seeing on a bike in Valencia that I know of is Casey Stoner because Casey and do Coty have apparently both decided that he will not continue on as their test rider and brand ambassador at the conclusion of his current contract, which presumably finishes off at the end of the air. But I figure since the announcement is already been made. It's not like he's going to that's a magical appearance at Valencia on that bike. You know, it seems like he's been there for really long time as their test driver. But it really has. I've been in believe it or not Casey is only been with Duke Audi for three seasons, but it's really only been to because pretty much all of this year. He's been on the shelf after suffering shoulder injury and testing and having to have surgery on his arm. But, you know, the big Downer in this is that, you know, the combination of Casey Stoner and do Kadi is like the perfect recipe for drama and some of that came to the surface this year when Casey accused the team of not taking his advice on the development of the bike and saying that he wanted to be a test drive or not a poster boy for do Coty. You know, that of course, brings up the question of whether or not stone is going to continue to be involved in motor GP, maybe testing for someone else. And there are rumors already that Honda is interested in having him back. Will it happen? I actually think there's a good chance of it. I mean because stone her relishes having an influential role, and that was his one big complain that was the source of the drama between him and do Qadis. He didn't have any real influence in what was happening on the bike. And I think that. Honda will give him a little bit more leeway a little bit more say, especially under the garden Savell, Albert push. Plus Casey, specifically said what was in a month or two ago that his shoulder injury will not hinder his ability to ride and test a bike. And of course, Honda was hoping to have Dami Pedroso board next year presumably alongside Stefan brattle and without him since he's going off to KTM stonier would provide both the experience and the star power to fill that dul tester ambassador role that they kind of earmarked for Danny south could be a good fit. And even though there is a zero percent chance that there will be any races or wild cards or fill ins or anything like that for Casey, you gotta admit that modo GP with Stoner involved on some type of level is far more interesting than emoji p without Casey Stoner involved in any kind of level. So hopefully, we'll get an announcement -ssume that he is going to continue on maybe go back to Honda which would. Only make things more interesting with both. Who are hey, Lorenzo and Casey Stoner petting from do Kadi to Honda in the off season in the bundle story before we go to break, Marc Marquez celebrates another title in his hometown. And everybody comes out to support him. I have no opinion on this other than to say I remember talking about this last year. And it is so cool to see a big party, and Sarah like that. Or if it was Tina Rossi into video, or if it was, you know, her halo Renzo Majorca. It's all the same thing. I mean, Mark spoke at the local university, then they had a parade for him. And then a big party afterwards. And you know for someone in the United States where we wouldn't do something like that for motor GP champion. I just always think it's so cool. I don't know maybe in other parts of the world. It's not that big of a deal. But when I see that I'm like, man, I just so many motorcycle fans all coming out to celebrate this guy in his championship or this rider and his championship. If a US rider were to win a championship again, which doesn't look like it's going to. Anytime soon. I seriously doubt that would happen that kind of thing would happen. But it would be awesome. If it did. So I have to live vicariously through the people in other towns and other countries around the world, and I can't help. But think it's awesome. Every time I see a championship celebration like that for a motor J P rider. All right. So the championship is over. But we still do have not only a race left. But we've got the first official tests for the two thousand nineteen season. It's all happening Valencia. And we're going to preview it all right after the break. Not only the race with the teams the contenders in my picks. But we're going to talk about what could happen in Valencia test all the riders on the move and my top five things to watch out for. So if I were you I wouldn't go anywhere Nick around. There's more coming up on the voter week podcast. Welcome back to motor week. My name is Wilson. I'm your host. Thank you so much for listening. Really do appreciate it. Also. Thanks, the volume remote for the music during the break, if you can hear more from TV are all you have to do is head to the Facebook page. Facebook dot com slash the volume remote. Details are also there about the EP which is now available on itunes and Spotify. Basically can go to either of those places get this show get that album and have a lot of fun listening to both. So thanks to Paul sees the music. All right. So this weekend is the final round of the two thousand eighteen world championship at the Ricardo Tormo circuit outside of tons of fans and every single one of them will have an excellent view of the action. Because of the unique way this track is laid out, and let's talk about the track. Because the first impression that Valencia leaves you with is that it's tight and technical. And that's exactly what it is for the most part, and that's because places built like a stadium. I mean. All one hundred twenty thousand people, and there will sure be one hundred and twenty thousand there sit around the outside, and because of that you got to put the track somewhere, and you wanna do it. So they can all see it. So they use up every single inch of vailable infield to get all of that track in because of that. There are a lot of heartbreaking zones a lot of tight corners. And a lot of situations where you wanna stay on the throttle to make up time. But the straits are also short that you're right back off the gas again, and it's really really tempting to override multiple corners at this track. Now, that's not to say that you can't faster because there is one straight that is long enough to get on the throttle. That's the front stretch, which is actually surprisingly long for track. That's packed in such a small amount of space. So you still get two hundred mile per hour. Speeds to go along with those heartbreaking corners and somewhere between those two extremes of the titan technical in that big long front stretch somewhere between there my favorite parts of Lancia there. Couple of sections at this track. That really kinda dare you to stay on the throttle and clip the apex as fast as possible. Turn three turn seven is very similar and the best most challenging in my opinion turns nine and ten and you take those and you combine them with that long. Never ending conic left-hander at turned thirteen that looks like they kind of lifted it from Phillip island and just plopped it down the middle of Spain. And you've got some great mid to high speed corners, and for turns three turn ten and of course, thirteen all of them and with a heartbreaking hairpin in the same direction as those corners. So it's kind of like an incredibly intense decreasing radius. Turn and the trick is trying to balance carrying as much speed as possible into those turns with how far you're leaned over. When you really gotta get on the brakes and not only is it a test this entire track test of grip inaccuracy, but especially those sections just mentioned offer. Excellent opportunities to pass or excellent opportunity. To make mistake and get past. So it's really a shame that the championship doesn't come down the Chia at the end of every single year because it is such a challenging track that you've gotta be great at what you do. You have to have a perfect bike. And you've got have the perfect setup to be able to be very very successful here. So it does force the best to rise to the top. And you can see that. When you look at the riders that had been the most successful here over the past several seasons of before we get to the routers. Let's talk about the manufacturers, and we're gonna start with Honda, and those guys may not have dominated here recently in terms of wins. But there is no question that this is now standing track for them from Dany Padro four career victories to Mark has never finishing off the podium here ever emoji P both back to riders are definitely confident coming into this track. Now, the depth doesn't go much beyond that. But in all honesty, hung probably doesn't care that much because they've never really needed more than the factory guys. Danny. Mark have landed on the podium nine times in the last five races. So they've taken up nine of the fifteen possible podium spots. Those are some pretty good odds that they're going to land at least one if not two bikes on the podium this weekend and those numbers come in races. Where a lot of times Mark really didn't even need a good result because he had already won the championship. Otherwise, they could have even better statistics here. And when you toss in the fact that the Honda has a lot more grunt this year in the engine department and their main them assists, or halo Renzo is definitely not going to be at one hundred percent for this race. Then I'd have to say that Honda overall is the team to beat on Sunday. But as much as Honda has to be looking forward to this race do Coty is well, probably not as excited, you know. They might have been if or Hillary was one hundred percent healthy. I mean, he is always a favorite to win here. This is an excellent track for him. And given a second half surge. Not even being on the Dakota think would change out a whole lot. I think he would have. Any challenge to win this race? But unfortunately, he's banged up. And Andre ditsy also has been thoroughly mediocre in the season. Finale, really, nobody else onto the is even come close. Save for a surprising podium for under, you know, a in his Takada send off a couple of years ago in two thousand sixteen now this will though even though it's not really a race that Takada is going to be going into looking to win. This will be a really good test of just how much improvement. They've made in the handling department. But I wouldn't expect the world especially considering their lackluster showing Sapang that they're trying to rebound from at attract that really isn't one of their best by any means. So we go from Honda who's thrilled to be in Valencia this weekend to Kati who would much rather probably be at home watching on the couch and somewhere in between is Yamaha. And there's some good things for Yamaha coming into this race. And then some not so good things on the upside. The last time Yamaha failed to finish on the podium. Valencia was two thousand seven. Seven and they have five wins here since two thousand four but the downside that lengthy podium streak at one point was kept alive. Courtesy of film performance by sukey Kasuga. And at another point by one of Ben spy's few top three results on the and the other downside, the majority of those winds from two thousand four came from where hey, Lorenzo who was we all know doesn't really ride Yama Heine more. But with all MAs recent surge of both Valentina roc- 'em African y'all as are confident Rossi is very good here. And you'll hens Arcos coming off a second place result last season. So I think that the door is absolutely open for a podium opportunity for Yamaha on Sunday. Even if they're going to have a major major task ahead of them trying to keep up with Mark marquess. But they're also in addition to Mark they're gonna have to fight with Zouqi to get on the podium because the other blue bike is definitely on a roll heading into the end of the season. And this race kind of lands at exactly the right moment for. The crew from Hamamatsu take full advantage. Alex rains was fourth here last season. Andrea donate was sixth in unity was on the podium, your earlier on the Cardi like just mentioned, and we both know that the bike, amber, those riders are better at this point in two thousand eighteen than they were in two thousand seventeen and because of that I think we have a pretty interesting, and maybe even a pretty intense battle between the Suzuki factory Rogers and the Amaha riders Sunday afternoon moving onto Cates. Cam those guys is a whole aren't really good right about now. But individually, both pull a spa grow and Bradley Smith had enough decent results in the past Valencia. They do make an intriguing option especially poll who finished top six all three of his outings on the tech three Omaha. Smith was six the couple of years back, and you know, the best sendoff into winter testing for KTM would be a solid result. And while it would be a stretch if they are finally going to have a decent race this season. This would be the place in the right? To do it especially Spago, and they have a lot to raise for two because they're only a couple of points ahead of apprecia- in the manufacturer's standings. So they wanna break out something big. This would be the opportune time and probably meanwhile is basically going to be just hanging on to get to the finish line. Now, that's not where they wanna be. Because like I said they are just two points behind him in the manufacturer savings and only six points back in the team rankings. So Sunday would be the perfect opportunity for them as well to shake things up a bit and take some serious momentum into the offseason by besting KTM. But that's gonna be a really tall order because Alisher Spago is kind of atop Tim writer here when he doesn't have any issues and that might help especially in terms of the constructors standings. But when it comes to the team competition is gonna need some help from the guy on the other side of the garage. And I'm not quite sure Scott reading is going to be up to the task, even if he does have a totally awesome repaint scheme. I think both of those bikes are going to have a totally awesome paint scheme for this race. Some not expecting much out of a really I think based on past performance here. That Katy of the riders not surly the bikes that KTM has a much better shot of holding off appropriate in both the team and constructor points. So those are the manufacturers heading into this weekend's race. Now, it's time to get down to business and talk about the contenders. We gotta start with Marc Marquez. And you know, Mark may only have one victory in Valencia. But that should not temper your expectations of the two thousand eighteen champ this weekend. He's never never finished off the podium emoji peac Shen in the season finale, and you've got to keep in mind that more often than not he hasn't needed to push extraordinaries. I mean, it's kind of been more of a perennial victory lap in front of the throngs of hometown fans. But here's the thing when it comes to Mark this weekend. Yes, he's definitely in the same position. He's been in in the recent past where he's already won the title. He doesn't really have a reason to go out and win this race. I get that. But unlike those other years, his main competition has always been Horia, Lorenzo and Dan. Hippodromes up Lorenzo not one hundred percent right now. Dany Petrova not one hundred percent for a different reason right now. So that means it's up to Yamaha and sukey the put up a fight. So a speed on his side momentum on his side and not nearly as much competition as he normally faces in Valencia marks rider to beat. He's the one everybody is going to be targeting a moving onto the second place during the points on trade of its yo so and this is going to be an interesting weekend for him because he's coming off a disappointing performance. In Sapang Valencia, though offers both a challenge and an opportunity. The challenge is clear. He's got outpace his and Dukakis performance in the past here Dovy has Valencia podium, but that was on a Honda beyond that he has four top five results in his MotoGP career only one of those came onto Kati. It was a believe a fourth place back in two thousand fourteen but this is also as we alluded to earlier when we were talking about to Kati a big opportunity because a strong finisher would not only make up for. Sapang? But it would actually I think propel the organization forward in both confidence and direction because it would confirm what we saw out of Dovy and the bike in places. Like Australian arrogant where they weren't expected to do that well that they're carrying betterman corner speed and they're better position to battle with Honda next season. But no pressure Dovy if you don't run, well, it's not that big of a deal. But if you do run, well, it is a huge deal. So I wonder what he's going to be aiming for another guy who has something to prove this weekend. Valentino rossi. And this is going to bring us full circle. All the way back to the beginning of the show when we were talking about your opinions on Valentino ask the Rossi fans. What is this weekend going to be like for him? Because if he wants to the doctor could have something big to prove this weekend that Sapang was no fluke that leading was no fluke and that both he and the m one are back on track to compete for real into nineteen. Now, the big question is does he see it the same way? Does he approach the race with the same motivation or that motivation for that particular reason if he does he has had some success here in Valencia two wins eight motor GP podiums? But the last podium came all the way back in two thousand fourteen and the last win two thousand four what's right? The last time balancing Rossi one in Valencia was two thousand four that was before Marquez was even born. Okay. I'm joking obviously Mark was eleven seriously was eleven years old the last time Valentino Rossi won influencial, but the hustler. Has looked so much better in the past few rounds and both averick Vanegas who will talk about next say, those improvements are real at least impart that with his past success and some new enthusiasm along with a little something the prove from Sapang that could make Valentino a real contender this weekend, and the same could be said of his teammate maverick than y'all is safe for the fact that doesn't really quite have the same resume at this track. That his elder does valley was fifth in two thousand sixteen has run on this Zouqi. But his results surrounding that are at the most impressive. He was eleven his rookie season. And he was twelfth last year and his first run on the Amaha, but given the podium in Thailand, the win in Australia and the fourth place in Sapang, plus that optimism and more importantly, the clear direction that has gone along with that optimism for both mave an Yamaha. And I don't see how you can't consider vanilla a series top-five threat. Even if he hasn't really been. A series top-five threat before here he could easily score his best Valencia motor GP resolved ever not as best mode of GP result, obviously. But his best motor GP result ever in Valencia next up on the list Dany Padro some, and I know I know this is not his season. But seriously, I can't not put Danny on the list of favorites at this track in his final MotoGP race. And the choice isn't without merit. At all Danny is tied with hate Lorenzo for the most wins by an active writer here with four and he has just as many podiums Valentine Rossi does with eight, but unlike Lorenzo Danny is actually healthy for once at this point. And unlike the doctor his success in Valencia has been far more recent Danny is the defending race winner. And he's been on the podium here in five of the last six races. And don't forget that he's coming off that fit players on Sapang. I know it's not much, but it is something and with the extra motivation of this being his final race and being in front of all. All of those Spanish fans that will all be cheering for him. No matter who their favorite is. There is a chance we could see just a little spark of magic out of Dani Pedrosa this weekend. Moving on to Alex rinse, you know, last year this time rinse was on a little bit of a surge. But this time around he's on a flat out tear Alex's landed on the podium into the last three races. He's finished top five in five of his last six and like we talked about in last week show his average finish over the last six rounds is fourth. I mean, come on. He's a legitimate factory rider or writing like a legitimate factory rider on what appears to be a legitimate factory bike right now. And that average over the last six rounds fourth also happens to be exactly where he finished epilepsy last season and with far more momentum and far better this time around he should definitely feel confident going for at least a top five if not making run of the podium, and maybe even a win this weekend. So the last rider on my favorites list for Valencia is Johann Zarco, and he might not be on quite the run that rinses, but he's not that far off either his podium. It's Pang was his first since all the way back in harassed. But. He had a v Thailand a sixth in Japan, and he was running really well before that whole crazy calamity Australia. So the Johann is definitely building some momentum prior to switch to KTM and considering that he gave Petrova serious Rumford as money a year ago in this race narrowly missing out on a win. I would say he's lined up for another good run this time around and he should be brimming with confidence because if you're thinking about it from his perspective, he nearly one last year the guy who beat him isn't racing. Well at all right now, he might actually feel these guttural shot to win. I don't know if he does. But he's probably gonna feel like he's got a real shot to win. Which means we could see the old Uber aggressives our co that we're used to and that can make things heck of a lot of fun in this race. So those are my favorites for this weekend. But I do have a list of other items to watch with a couple of big name notables on it starting with Andrea, and consistency is the only reason that Andrea doesn't make the contenders list this time around well that motivation to I'm just not quite sure how amped up he's going to be. In his last ride on the Suzuki. Given the fact that he's generally annoyed right now it is current employer for dumping him after this race. And they don't really feel too bad about it. So I'd imagine that part isn't doing much to improve his mood a whole lot. But you know is only two seasons removed from podium here. He finished six last year on the Suzuki. So the potential is there. It's just that. There are too many question marks to assume a top five is in the cards for him, and actually consistency is also an issue for the next rider on our watchlist. Although it's not really why he's on the watch list, but hor- halo Renzo the next guy. His inconsistency is kind of coming to different way. He's had a ton of success here. Four wins five total podiums, but he's also kind of an all or nothing Ryder at this track. The last seven Valencia races who are has had three wins three DNS and one DNS now that in and of itself is not nearly enough to get him kicked off of the contenders list for this race. But what is is the fact that? He will not be anywhere near one hundred percent. So the expectations aren't going to be very high. You know, I give him an eighty percent chance of racing. There are some heartbreaking zones here and a lot of left hand turns Valencia, which is gonna put a ton of strain on that surgically repaired left wrist. But I think the controversy of Sapan will influence him and propel him and encourage him to gut it out. I just don't think that particular injury at this particular track is going to be something that he can ignore to the point where he could cut out a podium or gut out a win. I am very interested to see how well does though and how much momentum can carry into Valencia test. In fact, I think he's probably considering this warm up for the Valencia test more than he's considering it his final ride on the decoding two more riders on my watch list for this weekend number one poll Spago, and I'm taking a bit of a flyer on Spago only because he seems to get along well with this track based on his time with the tech three bike, and even though he's not going to be on the tech three bike the kits ham. Can't be bad forever. Right. So he's got to have at least. One good race. And this could be a believe it or not in the three races on the tech three Yamaha poll never finished lower than sixth. And even though he DNS NF last year. He did make it to Q two. So even on the Cates him he's shown a little bit of speed. And you take that. Plus, the fact that KTM absolutely positively needs a good result out of at least one of their riders to defend their position both the manufacturer in the team standings. And I think Paul has a great opportunity to impress his bosses heading in the next year. And I think he may be able to take advantage of that Sabi watching Paul this weekend. And then another flyer Alvar Battista why while simply because it's about final modo GP race that we know of probably is find one ever and considering that Takata has had enough faith in him to hand over that factory SBK bike. I imagine that he'll be motivated to reinforce to them. Once again that they did make the right decision. And so he could go out there and have a decent day considering that he's had a couple of top. Five here in the past. And he's on a pretty good streak right now have four consecutive top ten finishes heading into this race. I'd say he's capable of turning into decent result. Especially once again, when you consider that pajamas question-mark, Lorenzo isn't even bigger question, Mark and Calcutta isn't even going to be in this race at all. So just like we were talking about last week in the show and Cosmin was like, oh, man Valencia. This is going to be a snooze fest. Who knows we could see some very interesting writers, very different riders on the podium and Alvar Batista could be in the mix. You never know. I mean, how crazy would that be if he was and you know, with injuries really affecting multiple riders in this race. Then it kinda opens things up in might not be your typical Valencia race where you just see the factory riders up on the podium. We could see just about anybody be up there by the end of the day. So those are the top contenders for me and the other outer will be watching in Sunday's race, which brings me to the worst part of the show where I attempt to make picks for the race. I did not have a problem picking the winner in this one. It's just ever. Nobody else that I kind of struggle with. So here we go much top by for this. Sunday's race in Valencia finishing fifth in the Moto GP race maverick Daniela's. Confidence puts him in the slot over a couple of other riders for me. You know, don't get me wrong. I think that mave is on the verge of returning to the top echelon of contenders. It's just that. This isn't his best tracks on putting him in fifth as opposed to putting him on the podium in fourth place for me is Alex Wrens. You know, he's so good right now that missing out on the podium would probably be a disappointment. And I wouldn't be surprised to see him compete for both the podium, and maybe even the victory, but the three writers I've put in front of him have so much more experience. And I think experience have very very important quality in Valencia. That's the only reason that it impaired Alex to be on the podium, so maverick Viagra's fifth. Alex rinse fort that brings me to the podium contenders. For the motor GP race this Sunday in Valencia in third. And I know I'm going to take a little flack for this. Because it is a sentimental. Dick, Daime Padro. So I know it might be wishful thinking, but Kamanga give me this one Danny has a great history. In Valencia heat is the defending winner. And even the Mark in her. Hey fans are going to be rooting for Droese to make the podium. It would be a great thing if he could finish his career off with an appearance on the rostrum. And celebrate with fans, I don't know if it's going to happen. But in my mind, I'm going to try and make it happen by taking him. Third of Everett's me to the top two in second. Is going to be Mark. No, no. Of course, not gonna be marked Valentino Rossi. Do not underestimate the motivation of falling down while leading the race. And Sapang the doctor for once in a really long time or reasonably longtime has something big to prove and without lot of solid challengers, you know, beyond Marc Marquez. I think the door is wide open for him to atone first mistakes two weeks ago and make a solid Brown at the podium. I think the bike is good enough to do it. I think he is good enough to do it. But is that combination enough to compete with Marc Marquez? No. And that's why pick Mark to win the race. I know you only has one win here. But it really is the perfect setup for a Mark win hometown fans, celebrating the title his biggest contenders in biggest challenges rather in Horry, Lorenzo Dany Padro are not on top of their game right now. Mark is clearly the writer to beat. I just don't see anyone that can beat Mark right now at this track except for maybe Mark himself now. Hopefully, I'm wrong. Hopefully, we get a fantastic bat. For the finish between somebody in somebody. But right now, it looks like Mark is going to be the guy to be. So that's my top five in the season finale maverick fan fifth Alex rinse fourth and on the podium, Danny Droese, Valentino, Rossi and Marquez. You agree. Do you disagree? You know, what to do? Tell me about it on the Facebook page Facebook dot com slash motive week dot net. Tell me how crazy I am. And give me your top five. Instead. Now typically, this is where we would bring the show to a close, but we have some very very important business to attend to before we wrap things up because after Sunday's season finale Valencia, the riders get a day to relax reflect on what they have or haven't been able to accomplish in two thousand eighteen and also get measured for some new leathers. Then it's right back out on track. The first official test of two thousand nineteen or four two thousand nineteen the new bikes will be on the track. The new riders will be with their new teams. And we're about to talk about it. So this is in the breeded Valencia test preview. And there's a lot to go over here. Not only do we have plenty of routers on the move for two thousand nineteen but we've got a brand new team. And we've got manufacturer moves with tech three making the transition. And then the is sick racing team taking over a sparse grid slots and switching to Yamaha. And of course, Marc VS through all this is going to be going away for next season. So they won't be at the test at all which is very very sad. So let's start by talking about riders that are on the move for the Valencia motor GP tests. And the guy everybody is going to be watching this one who are halo Renzo going to Repsol Honda, and he's definitely going to be the writer. That'll be the target of both the most interest and the most scrutiny in this test. It seemed like it was just yesterday that he was heading out there for the first time in Valencia on the guy. He was the first one on track. I think everybody in the garage stopped. What they were doing and watch the monitors to see him take a lap on that Takata. Is it going to be that big of a deal is going to be that kind of a circus? Rounding him this time. No, I don't think. So, but is it even more important for Lorenzo this test than the moment to Kati couple of years ago? Yeah, I think it is because they're so much more on the line. Now, he says he learned so much to Qadi will we're going to find out if he can put it to the test. Now does he have the top the charts right off the bat? No, not really. But if he doesn't put up solid numbers within he's immediately going to become the center of controversy and probably the target of a few Neil, Hodgson tweets, and in that respect, we're Hayes kind of a new imposition. But that's the price you pay when you're three time motor GP champion getting paid a ton of money to go to the top team in the garage. We've got your hands ARCO who's headed to rebel calcium. And I don't know if you remember this far back because it seems like it was a really long time ago now, but before the Lorenzo announcement came around this was the most intriguing silly season move. Now, it kind of seems like forgotten move. But the pressure is definitely going to be on ARCO. I mean, nobody's expecting him to shoot to the top of the timesheets in this test. But they are going to be looking for some sort. Of definite improvement after a season that really move the needle at all in terms of development or results. And you know, I'm I feel a little bit bad. But it's inevitable that Zarco was going to be under a microscope because he was the one who said it made no difference in effort, whether he went to KTM or Honda. So now, it's time to put up an I think he's gonna find out that it does make a difference in whether he goes to KTM or on. It's going to be a lot harder for him than is going to be. Hey, Lorenzo the put up these numbers on the Honda next week. Of course is going to be replacing who Lorenzo factory to Coty is Danilo, and you know, Danilo put pressure on himself by only taking a one year contract for that bike and his recent results haven't really been what you'd want out of guy taking over one of the best bikes in the garage. So now, it's time to put his theory to the test is that extra motivation going to help him come out of the box strong on a bike that shouldn't be that far off. From what he's writing right now. And I don't know if that's good thing or a bad thing. Because right now on the GPA teen, he's not turning in great results. So he's really gonna have to his game. Once he gets on that factory to make an impression on them because his have very long at all with only a one year contract. He doesn't have a very big window. Maybe a couple of races to prove to them that he can turn him results. So these tests are far more important for him. Then I think they are for some other writers that have to your contracts, including the next gun are listed, Andre, you know, a going over to a progress Seaney, and you know, he's arguably the rider with the toughest task of any of the movers for two thousand nineteen because he has to take pretty desperate appropriate team. And give them something anything to get excited about heading into the winter test season Willie provide in some results in Willie instantly team player. I have no clue we'll find out together. I'm not holding my breath. But there there's possibility that he could get on that bike and do something right away. I mean, especially since he's taking over for Scott reading, and it shouldn't be very hard for him. Due at least better than reading stewing on that bike. Then we've got Franken Morbidelli heading to the patrol sprinter Yamaha. That's what it's going to be called the team officially patrol sprint Yamaha a new team and a new opportunity for rider that Yamaha is definitely looking at as a potential successor to Valentine Rossio on the factory squad. And they believe in him so much that they've given Morbidelli maverick fan Yalla's old, crissy. So no pressure there, by the way for Franco. The big upside for him is that he'll finally get a chance to show us what he's got on a quality bike, and even though I'm not expecting a lot right away. Because it is a new rider new team. Everybody's kind of getting acquainted with their surroundings. I think this is a little bit of a maker break moment for Franken. Morbidelli? I mean, I'm not saying he's gotta go out there the season and get on the podium and when races, but I think he does have to be appreciably better than what we saw on the Mark VS bike for Yamaha to give him a second third look and consider when and if they're gonna move him up to the big team, then you've got Carell Abraham. He's headed to Vinci Coty survey. Lives yet another year, but hill sensually be in the same situation. He was with asp bar riding do Coty based on basically sponsorship money. So there's always new expect anything, but the same type of results out of Krell Abraham just with a different team. So those are the riders that are on the move. But we also have not one two or three four rookies coming into the series offer Moto to all with limitless upside, which one is going to rise above the rest. Well, I don't know we're going to begin to find out next week in Valencia and the writer that has to be at the top of our rookie list is UM MIR. No, he didn't go out and win the Motoo title. He didn't even win motive to race. The only had what four podiums I think in Motoo this year. But he's the only rookie that's coming in to a factory by compact. He's the first rookie since Marc Marquez to go straight to a major factory bike Willie live up to the same standard. No, I wouldn't expect that at all. But it's going to be awfully intriguing. To see how he handles the pressure. How he handles the attention of being the only work Yona factory bike and how quickly adapt to new series and a motor GP factory bike considering that only has a handful of motor to podiums and no motivations especially since the other guys all three of them that are coming up for motive to do have winds in that series and one of them, of course, as the championship. That's next guy. We're gonna talk about Petco back going to pray MAC Takada. You know, he was thrilling to watch a motive to is that going to translate directly to motor. He even with the two year old bike. He'll certainly have the support of the team and of do cod is a whole and given the success of the GPA team this year. And that's like he's going to be getting on. I think he's going to have the tools to impress. And I can't wait to see what he does with him. I think of all of the rookies were about to talk about Petco bag ni- has the best chance to surprise us. All and be impressive right out of the box. Because he's got the best situation. He has the winds. He's got the momentum from the championship. He's going to have. A bike that one a bunch of races this year at the hands of hey, Lorenzo and Andre of also and he's going to have the backing of that entire Duke Audi team. So I just think he's in a great position to come out of the box strong. Not that those other guys won't catch him. I just went up be surprised if he's the top rookie in this test next guy. We gotta talk about Miguel Olivera going the tech three KTM another writer that I really can't wait to see in action. He's got the same exact potential as Petco back nyah, but he's walking into a more difficult situation. Tech three is definitely the most professional of the satellite outfits, and the fact that they have full factory support from KTM is huge. But it's still going to be a gigantic adjustment for the team. Even if the rider is already familiar with the chassis characteristics of the Austrian bike his learning curve might actually be a little bit less than tech threes learning curve, but everybody involved is going to be adjusting. It's going to be a lot more challenging than it's going to be for its contemporary and Petco over Primax, but that does lead to an interesting. Opportunity for Miguel because it'll be a good measure. He can use Petco as kind of his sounding board. If he's close to back ni- in times with that means he's accomplished a lot in a short amount of time, which should be a big boost both him and that tech three team. Then the last of the rookies Fabio Quattro who of course, will be on the patrolling sprint Yamaha alongside Franken Morbidelli, and you know, Fabio perform some impressive feats on that speed up the season should had to wins. He only got one, but that's water under the bridge. Now he gets to move up to the big leagues. He's got a clean slate and a solid satellite Yamaha deride on the downside for he's not gonna be able to lean on his team at a whole lot since Morbidelli is going to be in learning mode as well, but Yamaha should provide the resources, I think he's going to have a solid bike to work with. He'll definitely be the underdog of the rookies for sure, but it's going to be a lot of fun to see if he gives us any indication of where his ceiling lies in that first test. So those are the rookies that'll be riding next week in Balenciaga. We also have a couple of new test riders that I expect to see all of his well, not one hundred percent. Sure. But I can't imagine we won't see these guys make their debut. Of course, Dany Padro say is the new test rider KTM him the big coup of the test rider ranks, he's taking on an entirely new challenge to try to make that Katy. I'm better. It's a bit of a gamble on all fronts. Not only for Danny to stray away from Honda. But for pit buyer. The guy running Cates. Yelm, doubling down on the whole lightweight rider strategy with Miki Kallio and Danny's not gonna have not going to be protected by the inherent performance of the Honda. If he wants to put good times on the sheet. He's going to have to work for it. But I will say that. I definitely admire that both sides are willing to take a chance both KTM and Danny on this whole project. Of course, we also have Yoenis it's folder who's going to be the new test rider for Yamaha, it strange that he turned down potentially fulltime opportunities emoji P M Motoo in favor of testable. But I get it given his medical history. And you know, folders a guy you naturally wanna pull for. So hopefully, this decision pays off. And we'll get to see him have fun out there on the bike kind of get himself warm up. And maybe just maybe it'll result in a fulltime role for him on some level sometime soon. And then of course, we've got Bradley Smith heading to a prelude definitely the most motivated of the test riders. He's got a ton to go out there and prove and a lot of ground to make up in terms of the bike that he's writing and developing now the danger here is that he'll let his desire to impress overshadow his task of improving the bike because of previous results in two thousand nineteen across the entire season are going to speak far more to his abilities. Then where he lands on a time sheet in any particular test session or even really in a wildcard start. So he's got to remember to keep those things separated. And know that when he's a modal e it's time to go out there and impress. But when he's writing an appropriate. It's time to develop the bike and make it better that has. Best shot at moving himself back up to a fulltime ride. So those are all of the new in changing writers heading into this Valencia test. Let's wrap things up with my top five things to watch for in this motor GP test. Number one on my list has to be or hailer. I mean, come on. You've got a super high profile rider going to super high profile team to ride alongside another super high profile rider. Well, what could go wrong really will or habe fast right out of the box will get along with his team and his teammate or we're gonna find out soon enough. All eyes are going to be on J, including mine in this test number two on my list. KTM two thousand eighteen was not a good year for them, and the Austrian contingent didn't make nearly as much progress as we and I'm sure they expected bringing on your hands ARCO bringing Daming Padro. So a lot of major major moves there. This is the time for them to step up. They have the writers they want. Now, they've got the organization below them the support organization that they want. They've. Gotta go out and put up numbers. Now. This isn't incredibly important test for them to get started in the right direction. Number three in the middle of my list. Yamaha's two thousand nineteen engine efforts maverick vanilla said he was looking forward not to the race in Valencia but to the test afterwards, and from what we heard from Lynn Jarvis earlier in the show Yamaha knows what they need to accomplish. When it comes to the electron IX, and especially when it comes to the motor. It's early for sure. But they're far enough behind that they need immediate progress. If they wanna catch onto by next season so much KTM. This is an important test for Yamaha as well. Number four top five list, JoAnne, MIR of all the rookies coming into the premier class in two thousand nineteen he is the only one tasked with moving the needle for factory team. Now, I wouldn't expect anything spectacular out of any of the rookies considering it's their first official. Go is a motor GP rider across the board. But MIR will have the most pressure, and it's going to be interesting to see how he handles that pressure. Esp? Actually considering that two of his co rookies finished higher than him in the points races, actually all of his co workers one races. And he's not gonna have that real veteran teammate to lean on in terms of Alex Rennes who's just now growing into that role. So the team dynamic Zouqi is going to be interesting overall, but show Amir is definitely going to be the most interesting of the rookies in this test. Then the fifth thing on my list will the spec. IM you make any immediate difference in performance or any difference at all I hope so and I'm not sure if it's gonna show related attract Valencia, but one way or the other we're going to get some sort of idea here. What if any advantage? Those custom us were giving to the factory teams, especially to guys like, you know, Marquez Andre the video because nobody truly knows because nobody other than the team engineers themselves have an any idea if what and how much the data is being manipulated cell. We're all to. Out together. It could be a huge difference. It could be nothing at all. I have a feeling that the real affect will be somewhere between and the fact that this test happened so close to the actual race week in Valencia. We can't draw direct parallels. But it's about as good as we can get as close as we can get to a direct AB test of what is allowed to happen this season, and what is not allowed to happen next season. Now, I don't know if the data rules go into effect for this test. I I'm going to try and find that out before we get to the actual test. I would assume that they would I would assume that you have to work with the spec. I am you as part of your electronics. Now, if you don't well, then all bets are off. We don't know what's going to happen. But hopefully, they do require them to we will get some sort of gauge just how much that's going to have this season. All right. So that wraps up our very brief preview of the Valencia tests next week next up. Well, we've got a racist weekend. Which means we will have a post ratio at the conclusion of Lenzi GP, I'll recap all of the action and Moto three Motoo ammo GPA. Give you my opinion. Then it's time to tell me what you think. Leave your comments on the Facebook page Facebook dot com slash mode week dot net. And we'll talk about him on the full show later in the week along with visual writer reaction to the season finale. And of course, we'll talk about the results of the Valencia test. So there's still a lot to go over even though the season is about to end, and I don't want you to miss a single episode of the show. So if you haven't done it yet, make sure you subscribe, you can do it on itunes spreaker, Stitcher player dot FM, Google play music pob being I heart radio in go to Spotify pretty much any major podcasting site go there type in motor week, you should be able to find the show. Of course, you can always go to the website twenty four seven at Motta week dot net. Find all of the latest episode 's follow along on Twitter at a week. And most importantly, go to the Facebook page. Facebook dot com slash motoric dot net. Can also find the episodes there. But most importantly, you can voice your opinion there to join in the conversation with all kinds of great motorcycle racing fans. We would love. To hear what you have the thing. 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Barcelona's Beatdown

ESPN FC

23:49 min | 9 months ago

Barcelona's Beatdown

"Welcome in the latest edition of ESPN AFC. Dan Thomas showing by only Moreno in Stevie Nikko later on on the show mark. County will be here as we'll be talking. Fa Carpenter a good day in the boonies league. Ed by Munich we start in League Valencia. NCA taking on that Barcelona first real test case set. The and it'd be one team would ultimately fail ten minutes into this want to give away a penalty gerow. PK hair committing the foul up. Finding out to explain this challenge goes it goes with the wrong leg he gets uh-huh however tasks great say deny Maxi Gomez and. If you didn't want to his game you would have known that their state and what's actually actually Manila Brazil alone in that first half. Yep Save an here once again. That phone strange. I mean it's just reaction for both of them for me this one with the pace of the ball a little fortunate with the Cross Blah then look us follow it pushes around the forest so going us as we take it into the second half Valencia. Deservedly take in the lead slightly fortunate. Circumstances says it comes George Albert slightly fortunate very fortunate however it was lead density served now pasta out a couple of chances messy in particular. Didn't take them though and then with thirteen minutes ago want to strike. This is is from Mexico to stay in. Things is going to pull across to the other corner and ends up getting flat-footed and does nothing but it's a great furnish. Aw uses the defender to disguise also a frustrating day then Sets in as we see on Valencia make it three and then it would just be a couple of minutes eventually the corner would be retaken. The referee saying the foul occurred before it was played in. I'm sorry if a mass but fortunately I suppose it means that we can focus on the game because it doesn't really affect the results as it still finishes Valencia to Barcelona Nail the stats here. Incredible because seventy three three percent of the ball fourteen shots only really a couple of those significant eight hundred passes completed. But that just doesn't really tell us anything you think you look at the table. Three point still still everyone places around with your family Jordan Action Tomorrow Charleston go three points clear but just going to oppose stat. Sally First Half Bonsor at eighty percent of the ball and they had no shots sideways. It was it was incredible sideways. And I'm back so last week. After Keith is at the end takes over and they play games Outta the conversation. Following the match was well. We're back to the identity entity. Oh Barcelona the possession of the ball. We completed thousand passes. Okay I suppose that has some value and I suppose that that is the identity of our CELONA but it has to be possession with a purpose no dispossession not this inefficient ineffective predictable woah possession that is sideways and back sideways and back sideways. And back if you look at the first half today and you just mentioned that how how many of those passengers were actually penetrating passes. Forward passes passes that eliminate limescale defending passes at our creative that get and put the position into to a into a position where now they have to defend that is uncomfortable for them to defend. It wasn't until which is moving sideways sideways. I was keeping everything in front of them. And by the time I kept going backwards so for all the possession for all the long pass and sequences fifteen passes thirty passes twenty passes Linda with two passes they go on the attack in half half they get a shot on goal they hit the post. They draw penalty gig. They get goal all the things that you expect for us alone to be doing. Valencia was far more dangerous esteem with without having the ball and no need to have the ball. They were like okay. Yes sure you can happen. Pass the ball. So how is this any better than whatever they were doing over with. It's not a reality check for Barcelona fans at thought. This was all valverde. Get rid of him getting set to bring back the values because it's quite simple isn't it sometimes analyzes side it. Messy doesn't school or have a good Game Boston win. It's very much that and so then you start looking at the personnel out on the field and you have to ask the question again which we ask on a weekly basis about Antoine Greece. One hundred twenty million well okay but but at least fifty one degrees. You haven't even let me finish by Anton Greece man. Maybe maybe there's something nice to be. That was what I would say is in the mid week couple. He scores two goals. And they're all conference central positions in which he makes quick diagonal movement to getting behind today in a game in which they could have used some of that he puts himself into wider areas underneath. He goes anywhere but inside eighteen box. where it it is where he should be because oh by the way that position that he's playing now given the absence of lettuce? We're GONNA see something. Well I started nice and then I went real well. Some nearly ended the day when you play center forward you need some service and there's nothing more annoying for for when I was a coach with nothing more annoyed me more. The what you're one of my players take a sideways or the bike was passed without even looking to see if there was a forward pass. That was the most annoying thing that used to drive me up the wall and if I'm a sent a forward and midfield players who are not even looking forward. What does that do degrees Eastman? You wonder why ends up disappeared in all different places where these shouldn't be to try and get a hold of the bowl. I mean it goes two ways and as far what is this guy. Cat At to this attack him play because it looked like they were told. Just keep the ball. Just don't give away Emma. Let's keep it. That's what it looked like. So what happened to the influence of this guy. The doesn't seem to be any gamma caught us. We've been too harsh. Barcelona surely not based on today's performance and look to add a little bit more context this Valencia team that started the game without without two of their three best players because donny was unavailable modano. Who funnily enough he started on the bench reason being that supposedly he was the subject of interest from from Barcelona before the match? So that gives you some sense of what they were up against. But I agree we all saw really really Lee sterile possession. I two quick things about that one is the old Barcelona values the PEP Guardiola era. That wasn't just about possession also about pressing pressing off the ball and this is a team that is a really difficult time doing it in part because Leonardo messy as young as he was ten years ago. None of us are And they simply didn't get that part of the game right either. which only made things worse in terms of possession penetration? I think that's something that takes chemistry. Sorry this is set the unstirred game in charge. You know we can give them a tiny bit of leeway for that but he has to get that right otherwise it's just not going to work and you're just going to sit around pass the ball sideways and hope they messy too something spectacular which he sometimes does but not in every single game John Sanford tomorrow. Meanwhile Sarah Maryelle wants a performance from Atalanta this. Let's not forget to lost power last weekend but this was something very special from visits. It says as they would take knowing that Torino it all starts in the seventeen th minute. It's one nil. I mean. Just stop repeal desire to close the opposition zone and then the twenty nine th minute Atalanta elite underselling. This goal. Can I know. Is that a camera as well. And then just before half-time Atalanta penalty who doesn't take into the second half breath communication. Lots and ask ridiculous. Fo- comes a boat. Yeah both of them by CV sleep. Oh man these days hanging. He's hanging out. Having having a good time night's game moments later five now. Scores show moves on pointed out by late one by one. Vote One way back. Line the penalty here Eh Loy. He's a lovely very outraged. Schools depends make it six. They'll oh there's more oh yes there is indeed eight gets brace Torino new LANTA sever. It's a lot certainly is. It's just taking a look at what that means for the top four it puts Atalanta Jeff on the heels of Roman table level on points now and oracles taking on to Morrow Gab. This was quite something wasn't a after last weekend's defeat what response I ah look. This is what the third time this month that they put five goals past somebody. This team that starts out running hard and pressing in high and taking chances and and continues for ninety minutes and that alleged thing was was special. Just look at the Ben puts on fifty seven goals in twenty one matches for this season and look. I mean there might be somebody in Europe who scored more goals this year. But I guarantee you. They haven't gotten on. It was thought on does wage bill and with the team. That maybe apart from Papa Gomez really doesn't have any even Bela superstars reminder. If you have missing show you can download our daily podcast which is available over on the websites so by a Munich with a five nil win meaning that they are now. Just one point of the top table. Remember Dorman with but that big win. Es Four points separating the top four. It was a day Gab. That by Munich will be very happy. Not only with that performance but of course saliva losing as well absolutely couldn't worked out better. Obviously they kicked off afterlife but look I shock. They were up to fourth in the table. They were coming off a great result last week. There were even some fretting about this early on the they were in control. All they put the game to bed in in the second half but Yeah firing on all cylinders right up there as her life she. You'RE GONNA GET Games like this. They're incredible scoring streak of three goals. A game has ended but equally. They created the bulk of the chances and took that absolute absolute world worldy we that we saw from for them to go down extra time dominated by tolkien throwing coach lawsuit days. Thanks be sure to check out if that continues today over on our Youtube Channel. FA Cup Continues Tomorrow Manchester City against early star. ATM Eastern here on by Tranmere Against Manchester. United Shrewsbury the town against live Monday. Don't forget its former against awesome. Meanwhile in the championship today of course it's a few teams in the FA Cup Swansea then looking quite as the gap on press and in the playoff places unable to do so losing against Stoke City Eh. One goal to nil. Meanwhile great matches Tamar in Milan against Calgary that's at six thirty Z.. Vance followed by Roma against lots and then in Naples Napoli take on your vendors. Let's look ahead to those games. Shall we cap sawing enough with the late one Napoli. You've a maybe not quite as significant as it has been over previous seasons. Yeah except don't go. Tell that to Torino. Got Tuesday giving giving Napalese home form of late Napoli serious serious trouble. You vent this coming off off a really. What I thought was a really really impressive performance amid week they're clearly heavy favorites here and They'll have the edge of course of taking the pitch which after after Inter who played earlier in the day and of course after the Rome Darby and things break things his way they could be as much as what seven points clear by the end of the evening. Meanwhile Roma last year of course always fireworks in this Darby but more significant ends going into this tie considering Champions League ramifications yeah well and the title Materia because remember lots lots lot. You'll have a Goldman have a game in hand here There on this incredible run of consecutive victories. And you know they're taking on aroma side. That played better but they've been hit hard by injuries. Of course above all Yana. They've gotten praised. But there's it's awesome Tomo behind the scenes possible new ownership coming in at the due diligence phase. Right now. That's what they call it. They call it so Roma what would like nothing better than to than the trip the rivals up especially if If they're on their way to making this a serious three-horse race for this and of course we kick off the day in some style. MELANIA INSERT taken calorie gap injure yes. They're all waiting for Christian Erickson. They've welcomed Victor. Victor Moses and Ashley Young at I know people are GonNa people are GonNa mock but these are players that these players that feels that he needs and look. They read the table as well as anybody. They're gonNA hold that these guys bring the extra energy in their Eric's obviously he's not going to play. I don't take the deal is officially done yet. But you certainly didn't play for For Spurs on Saturday so he appears to be on his way and They just want to get this game out of the way. Get three points and then figure out how to work. Eric said into their lineup. Welcome into it's extra time. Thank you very much for your tweets question. I stevie whole Libya come on. Don't know that it is when you throw in mentioned twenty five years since Cantona kicked obviously the Remember that time. You're obviously playing. Was it something. The players applauded appreciates it embarrassed by. What was your opinion on every single one of look to have done that some states somebody right because everything will want those does some stage go? Absolute dogs of us from somebody in the crowd. Continuously actually played a guy who went to somebody's host. I flavor gecko Jimmy Sherry alienated rights. And we were saying so everybody had a job to whenever they played on the right hand say there was a guy used they stand every single. Just give them all tight and Jimmy got fed up with the guy was a season ticket holder phone though when he they walked and he went tease tease tease office. And said see you. You should be good. God's going Oh Jim. I didn't know they shouldn't be goes eight. I'm coming to you because you come to my walking us out of the giving me I say to you said it'll be here everyday. Have Shaved guy was up. Oh you'll never jim just one question what was your part time I was e- brickie's rookies libra. That was one of my own future. Is that when you try the forklift truck into a lake and to into the food and the called the building a house yes is basically the three or four foot depth below the phone each Asia as you go back and I was told to take a truck load of bricks. Couldn't drive tank so the Alpha. The job was in strike and so we couldn't do anyone so one. The voice taught me how to drive the truck dumper truck right to buy after and he said right. Should you have this moment. Fill fill the dumper out with break to take it run you say the FERNS and dump those bricks and okay. I know boy la so we went so the The Books Go Anna reveals. Run the corner towards the end. I kind of forgot where the break was. And then just this EJECTA SOC- Israel Wolf straight done. Did you get psyched. Gotha who hated wasn't now. Yeah they call the office and go to bring one of the jokes always live slow motion done. Do Think Barcelona's sit on race for the Champions League title early in the race. We're going to win that race and end of the game today. One of the things. That was disappointing. was when you watch Barcelona against Liverpool in champions Vince League last year and you think about the plane which Alexander Arnold off the corner kick decides to take it quickly and by someone just kind of walking away unaware of what's happening right. It's lack of attention to detail and that was on there now. Under said being the second goal by Valencia came off straight off a throwing. You would've liked a bit throwing play throwing coach offer throw when people walk away from the ball unaware that something's happening. PK late after after. It gets turned steady Roberto late tracking back and then Mexico Wide Open. The far post straight overthrowing still like of attention to the details so by where they set the end. It doesn't matter as long as the players at this point. You have to figure out okay this. We may have been Barcelona for great period of time but right now back to getting the basics right. It's back to getting work done and grinding and in this thing doesn't look like a thing that wants to grind is. Is it really necessary to be an x probe to become a good coach. I don't think so. I don't think it's the main criteria. I certainly think it helps. The you've listened you your experience of all things as whatever you do and to have the experience meeting Sabine on the field for example can only be good experience a few on the on the other side trying to explain to somebody what to do. Because you've been in that position I don't think it's the bill and the Endel can make a good day. There are exceptions. I think what's important though is that you can look at players and evaluate players in the way they express themselves that you walk across a locker room and you see see a player size and you know this guy I can trust that guy not so much And you only get that when you've been in the locker room for a long period of time and you've been in those sort of positions and and you get the sense and feel for a team that only happens having been inside the locker room so that that new ones to to communicating with players. I think he becomes a little easier when you have been a player actually. I shouldn't Tolbert when you coaching to go somewhere. And lend you trade and I kinda think of British boss at Chelsea because he learned his trade on the Marina Chelsea per much and of course all the please clears could see that this will. This guy stopped it right and I don't think not held at the Chelsea Joe because they could still see him and there had as this young guy who just fixed off all Gab. Markazi is with US Kazakh. You've thought scam. I think this is purely an accounting thing. Issue is going the other way as as far as we understand your mind and your match. So it's going to be preserved our plus cash for four Shuzo and uh-huh obviously the has been there a long time so as soon as joe value on the books as is low. And and it's important for you to get deals like these done because Allah has. He only had six months left on his contract. He's going to get presumably shorter term deal And and be out of the way going forward but I think right now. He's he's just an extra body. which would you prefer boys winning by also winning with a last minute goal winning by a lot of goals take time why distress why the the adrenaline the excitement of scoring the winning goal in the ninety second minutes? Ah Gimme a Hattrick and winning and six nothing. I'll take that every single day from a fan. I think you prefer. It's I mean well from a fan well exactly how that when it woke. Look so obviously if a guaranteed by where you're not so that's why you'd rather be six now living as a fan you watch more memorable on me for that last minute trauma. Yeah but as you know thank you now know why. Do you need that stress in your life more adrenaline excitement. No you can't sleep that night. No Oh stevie shepherd's pie on the menu what would eat Eh stable nice and we got it. Spnfz is back tomorrow. Stephen Henn it is it tomorrow. Sunday Chris Schacht Hey.

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Buying into Black

There Goes The Neighborhood

22:16 min | 1 year ago

Buying into Black

"Hey everybody this is. kyw host of the first season of there goes the neighborhood and I'm here to say we haven't forgotten about you. We've been hard at work on a collaboration collaboration with Miami's public radio station WWL RN. and which we've been looking at the relationship between gentrification and climate change. We made a three part series for our podcast. The stakes and I want to share it with all of you. So here's episode two this time stakes reporter. Christopher Johnson takes us into Miami's Liberty City the these are the stakes this episode buying into all right so the best place to start is by introducing you to somebody else being Miami and we have like a certain type of accent. Sent Right Valencia Gunderman. She's a community activist native Miami and absolutely southern. We don't think we country like the rest of the south. Yeah we got a little southern drawl. But you can't you can't tell the Miami country simple. NCA traces her south. Florida roots all the way back to her great great great grandfather. That's about the eighteen seventies. This before Miami was even a city the other side of my family family which came from the Bahamas with one of the pioneer families that came to settle here actually helped Bill Miami. So south Florida's first blacks blacks were pineapple plantations in lime farms. Starch Mills they were maids they were servants turtle hunters they chop through the mangrove swamps and force their way down on into stubborn coral rock building luxury hotels and see walls to protect them from the ocean. He's our Black Hands Guy Building South Florida making it so my grandmother when my grandmother actually remember being here in Liberty City when it was just her house sitting on a dirt road exo Valencia who was born in the mid eighties. She grew up in Liberty City and she lives there now and I man I could listen to her talk all day about her hometown and my grandma will force us to go because she didn't like us to the front of the TV all the time. We didn't have to go in for lunch because the fruit trees like me and my friends used to literally get a bowl and we're gonna get all these fruits in pill them and put them in a bowl like seven of us. Sit around the bully. We eat in like having a fishman he go catch all the fish. Come into my grandma House Sela her tin fresh snappers like that was liberty city. So there's something else really special about Liberty City and other nearby neighborhoods in the last episode episode. We've talked about how although Miami to the naked eye is pretty flat. There's actually a limestone ridge that runs north south through the area. Liberty City is up on that Ridge just like little Haiti. Its neighbor to the east and like Valencia says we sit higher than everybody else so our talking about my grandfather. A father in my grandmother's because they pay such a major part of my life Valencia's family foresaw a future where the fate of Liberty City and that of folks on the coast. I would one day intertwine so my grandfather. He always would talk to us and they gonNA. I'm still our communities because they don't flood like I remember. I am saying that the young child like that was common knowledge in Liberty City for me as they know the science they just knew and understood that back when flooding happens everywhere else. Don't flirt over here. They may knew that that was going to be one of the triggers them. Come take our communities Wow and that's clear. Language take our communities so they were talking about gentrification in that way even back then she's talking about something else else and so when I started digging into this question of how climate change and gentrification what impact neighborhoods like liberty city. I ran into this concern over and over again. Not just that we would be priced out but that we might actually get picked up and moved to the side and maybe it sounds a little paranoid but for black Miami in particular when you bring this idea of being pushed off land. Basically pushed physically pushed like suddenly and in mass. Everybody's gotta get up and go. Oh there is one very real event that everybody wants to talk about overtime. Years ago was a community. Striving had lots of the businesses said fifty thousand residents. All the time was was fifth street anthem railroad railroad. This is from a documentary humidity. That's all over town in the making this place was you had had wall-to-wall stored. We had three movies here. We had three hotels car. Hotel was right there on that corner. Everything that you needed to live work and have fun. Like the rest of Miami over town begins in the wilderness of Biscayne Bay starting in eighteen ninety s dozens of black laborers were hired to clear mangrove swamps and breakthrough coral rock making a path for the Railroad Hill road. This game boulevard was all Pam Meta Bushes. It was nothing Naomi Agnes roles. Father was a Bahamian migrate. Who helped turn in this wilderness into a destination city? That would be called Miami and he worked out there with the machete cut in his in order just to get Biscayne Boulevard built. We are rooted in that community. We built Miami Folks Bill Miami. The earliest workers lived in camps in those camps morphed into a place I called colored town sometimes worse and then over town and that's where the role sisters from its where their father built many of the homes including putting the one that they grew up in and my father and his mother built that house. Together you know with their own two hands it without pride and joy by the nineteen twenties and thirties over town becomes a bona fide little city. It's got black churches black nightclubs celebrities celebrities musicians and just regular folks and in fact many of those celebrities would have been in town to entertain white people over in Miami beach and other neighborhoods but segregation of course force them to stay in the black neighborhoods when they were off stage and this was a familiar story for black communities all over the country. Free Right I mean ironically segregation is part of what created such dynamic black neighborhoods in Harlem and Pittsburgh Chicago and even around south places like overtop would've been a magical walk down second avenue. Nineteen thirty nine hundred thirty five. Marvin Donnas a historian. Who's done a lot of research on Miami's in his origin story? You'd smell fish fry. You'd smell chitlins cooking. See children playing it. Seal men plan French checkers and drinking beer. You'd see a lot of folks sitting out on the porch is just taking in the sights salon. The Avenue you'd see minute suits suits. You didn't come down on the avenue after work unless you shoudn't J. of and put on your coat and tie you see women dressed the finest fashion that you'd see in Broadway so K.. Over town was the place to be right right. But alongside all of this and as has the largest city of Miami becomes this glitzy tourist and celebrity destination. We can't lose sight of that. There's a whole other side of overtime if you just one or two blocks away from all of the glitter you had misery and crowded conditions and dangerous conditions but the wouldn't houses that were built so close together together that presented such a threat of fires. And what have you right but still what I'm hearing is a very familiar black story. I mean on one hand. It's a community forced into a ghetto. Cut off from Opportunity and capital where people are being bled by slum lords but at the same time it's a community where people are making their own space in their own way inside inside that ghetto despite everything exactly and by the way black families who dare to move out to other parts of Miami to parts that were designated for black people bowl outside of black neighborhoods day faced razz men firebombing and sometimes much worse and then came came urban renewal urban renewal prompted because of the interstate system. The national highway system is expanding in Miami wants neighbor invited commercial commercial districts replaced by modern all bringing new face. The American cities gave the city wants to bring interstate ninety five through downtown so the first plan they draft is to run it through Miami's commercial district but business leaders say no way instead. The city ops for Plan B to to build ninety five right through the heart of over town so they start making offers to homeowners in their path including families like the roles and they were first talking about the ninety five project and dad. You Know My dad resign villa. My house you know. He didn't give them all. Do it the black community. It was opposed to the interstate coming down with avenue. We knew that meant it was going to destroy most of of over town. And that's exactly what happened. Blacks had no Paducah power when these decisions were being made and the whitewash books should have all the power. This is exactly what happened to the Royal Family Guy. They had no choice so like tens of thousands of their neighbors. They packed up their life and they moved landing in Liberty City. He was depressed from all the time he left over town until the time he did. He was depressed Kai I cannot overstate how how atomic I ninety five was for black Miami even just now talking about kid a little upset. It was a massive marching of black folks up and out of community. That was there. They built a community that was started by the way by the same people who I cleared. The land built a seawalls and the roads and the hotels that became Miami. This neighborhood belonged to their descendants who became disposable over town had been home to more than fifty thousand Miami's but when it was all over less than ten thousand were left because villains. His grandfather was right that will come and they will take our land and if they want it they can do it So a lot of families especially Pioneer families that had settled in overtime. They still talk about how much they lost. Family was building their their own. And I mean. It's like blatantly disrespectful because the highway literally go straight through you know it did smack DAB in the middle of black communities and Miami just does a over the top job of I guess doing the most like Miami Bob Dole's through. I think the psychic consequence of what happened here with another five was that it showed blacks here how how powerless we were at that moment and it showed us how vulnerable we were to decisions. Made by people who didn't look like us and the end of particular interest in our priorities And I think it resonated with US history as being basically an insult the black community because people simply implement at that decision with very little consultation to black people who live in that community. And we've heard this and other cities the idea of urban renewal or slum clearance or whatever you call it but pushing people out and ultimately creating new ghettos which is how poverty and race became so intertwined in American cities and this is exactly what happened in Miami because through the sixties and early seventies many of the black folks displaced by Andy Five. They moved into liberty the city and they brought with them. This deep wound called. I ninety five and over the next couple of decades liberty city struggles. Night side of mayhem in Miami has been followed by a day of more tension and more trouble though we're new reports of arson looting and another death because a deadly riot in the spring including a dusk-to-dawn curfew has been imposed on North West Miami following a day and night of killing looting and burning that left at least ten persons dead and one hundred twenty injured injured. The violence broke out. After white male jury in Tampa found four white former Dade County. Policemen innocent in the death of black Miami businessman Arthur mcduffie in this riot. Eighteen people were killed a hundred million dollars in property damage business leaders in Liberty City packed up and they headed for the exit. There was a massive of exodus of capital during the nineteen eighties. This is the same decade that crack cocaine his drive through certain sections of south Florida and you will find people willing to sell you drugs heroin cocaine and the most popular these days crack cocaine and Valencia who grew up in Liberty City in the nineteen eighties. She seeing all of this as a kid. It became name like this nightmare for people. Fifteenth Avenue became like a Zombie land. Like you walk down the street and you can see the addicts walking around aimlessly Li. Like it's not like that anymore. They cleaned it up and they're doing things to get better but oh my God the eighties and nineties. It was horrible. Aw All of this is happening around Valencia. And meanwhile her family and the folks in her community some of whom had lived through I ninety five. They're trying trying to warn her. Tell you I'm telling you they wanted. They wanted like pay attention. And then nobody don't want this place like nobody wanted. I was ready to go myself because at this moment in time like people are like abandoning their homes and like you're starting to empty. Lots in tore down. Houses in there was horrible. Valencia loves her family. She loves a community. She loves Miami but she wasn't blind like Liberty City had been falling apart for more than a decade. And what she saw wasn't a place that anyone would want to take. Meanwhile Valencia goes away to college and when she comes back she finds a community. That's already already transforming. There were these new apartment buildings. The public parks getting makeovers and Valencia's own high school had been totally renovated. And I heard people saying I'm like Oh my grandfather. Who had his store for thirty years came afford to have the story no more? I'm like what do you mean I don't understand. And her neighbors told her straight up the gentrifying and then play back in my head. Like Teikoku active you these because they don't Flood Lindsay is not alone folks. Liberty City are watching. What's happening just over in Little Haiti and they're getting ready? That's next. I'm Kyra host of season. One of there goes the neighborhood and I wanna tell you about another podcast. I'm working on called the stakes. It's a show really about how we we all live together including who owns the neighborhoods. We call home with flooding happy everywhere else. It don't flood over here. They moved that that was gonna be one of the triggers for them. Come take our communities. We're about to pick up right where there goes the neighborhood left off with a special series on gentrification subscribe to the stakes. Wherever you get your podcasts this something always eighty no? They're gonNA raise his rent because there's midtown is in next door latch. Yeah this is. Lindsay is good friend. James Munching by much. He's CO owner of business in Liberty City. which is nearby the far far more trendy neighborhood of mid neighborhoods but they got the name on it? 'cause they're like trying to call this that neighborhood. What does it say midtown Miami I Senate and it's not meant that no Liberty City munches sort of an entrepreneur activist he befriends own a place called roots collective blackouts? It's kind of a retailer. This is the blackout showroom but also in a space and an arts collective we have the clothing line misses all black owned clothing. black-owned message in about how it'd be unapologetically black We have June teeth. We got first and foremost there about black ownership if you grab that one s ISA array of rooting for everybody black munching. The roots collective come from a lineage of black political thought. That doesn't get much attention outside the black community but that remains means strong in many of our neighborhoods and as we try to keep dollar circulating because we understand it. And it's Charlemagne said once it's not about selling hours by getting people to buy Ryan brand is about buying into the black nose and buying into black lie greatness binding the Melanie you know. Invest in it is what it is worth million this idea that we have what we need right here inside this community. It traces back to places like over town where strict segregation that the Only business black people were GONNA do was among ourselves and it has a political corollary. Nobody is going to save us but US much says he. He was reminded of that back in September. Twenty seventeen highways jam packed this morning across the state of Florida. At least nine counties are issuing full or partial mandatory evacuation Jason. We just got alerts on our phone. There is a tornado warning. They're telling people to take cover. Things are very serious here in Miami and we will be when Hurricane Irma. Hit Miami the streets of downtown turn into rivers they said Oh you know what Miami's not GonNa get it that bad wrong. The Win Liberty City sitting up on. Hi Ground didn't have that extreme flooding but like so many other places did lose power which meant it lost easy access to food in an already poor neighborhood in terms of staging meals. They've got right now. Ten million meals ready to go in the area in Florida and the surrounding states and about thirteen and a half million liters of water and so like the distribution spots on Seventh Avenue and Twenty Third Avenue but majority of the scene stay literally from tenth to Fourteenth Really. They have a whole community center for senior folks but they didn't put no ice no distribution f them. Kim You know what I mean. Because they're not going to be able to walk is no way possible. So maybe I'm with ice bags. Walking from Seventh Avenue to ten in the days after the storm Valencia and Munch and others in Liberty City realized. This was how things were going to go. So they made their own emergency response plan so we have access to the resources which was a warehouse. We knew that all it took was social media to Kinda like get people to donate visa. Hey we got. We got a grill. I've got a I got one hundred hot dogs we just going to go to neighborhoods and just make sure they get hot food because right now we can't do save ourselves. Help is not coming too much. That's that's how liberty city is going to have to confront vacation to whether it's caused by climate change. Just the familiar rushed for cheap. Property like power is one thing powers is simply the ability to act. But then you've got capital you know a lot of times the move things. You need the capital. The winner call all the rules like in was happening right now. We just at the end like monopoly game and we just lose in and we gotTA start educating ourselves on how to beat the system. The capitalist revolutionary use the master's tools just to tear down his own house. I don't know that I'm sold. But it's a powerful idea because it honors the investments so many have already made the people who built over town the people who turned the dirt roads of Liberty City into a neighborhood. The people who cleared the swamps that became Miami for that matter knows who built little. He felt that it was in the American spirit. Dacians have community which they can call their own coming up. We go back to little Haiti to get its origin in story. How this community here and what's going to happen to its residents? If they can't stay so they picked him up some jail time to lock them up and then they gave an option either. Shut up he can leave. But if you talk debt. ooh That's next on the stakes. Stakes is a production of WNYC studios in the newsroom of WNYC. This episode was produced in partnership with W. L. A. N.. In Miami it was reported and produced by Christopher Johnson. The Dash Green and myself. It was edited by Karen Freeman. Who is also our executive executive producer and Alicia Zuckerman? Who is editorial director? For wwl. Casey means is our technical under sixteen. Also includes Jenny Jenny Cathay Maryanne mcgann. Jonathan Jessica Miller Cari Pitkin Christopher worth and Vera Lynn Williams with help from chemist Brown Michelle L.. Harris Kim. No OCOEE and jared Paul. Stay in touch. You can hit me up on twitter at kyw underscore right thanks realistic. WNYC's health coverage is supported by the Robert Wood. Johnson Foundation working being to build a culture of health that ensures everyone in America

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Episode 278: How I'm Able To Run A Successful U.S. Digital Agency From Spain

Paul Hickey's Data Driven Daily Tips

11:51 min | 9 months ago

Episode 278: How I'm Able To Run A Successful U.S. Digital Agency From Spain

"What's up everybody Paul? Hickey here with a special edition of the data driven daily tip in this episode. I opened up about how ideal with emerging technology. What my biggest pet peeves? Our instant instant gratification. How I got around not wanting to party as a teenager but still make friends and be social? And why and how. I moved to Valencia Spain and run on my company from there with sixteen mates in nearly a hundred clients in the US. Special thanks to my good friend Q.. Harrison Terry for taking the time to sit down and an interview me. I hope you enjoyed Paul. What's up man? It's a pleasure. WHAT'S UP Q? I always like talking to you man. Thank you for making the time. This is one of the first of many conversations. Were having future daycares at lunch. And what's fascinating about us being inevitable human member just the pat the journey at which you excel through emerging technologies to me was fascinating. I wanted to share that with a few people. What where I want to start? Though as you see new emerging technology like voice a lot of people they stop they look at what's going on. They assessed and they're just constantly turning. What's the big idea? or how can they make their first million sometimes billion dollars. It seems like you're saying. Hey let's take a bunch of small beds and like let's build build a community and a business around that community but instead of going the one too many approach you're saying let me help enable a ton of people and this might not be the thing that makes you that million or billion but this is getting give you a lot of insights into the future because you elaborate a little bit on it. Yeah one of my biggest pet peeves as people who say they're going to do something they never nuked ok so because of that I became very very tactical and detail. Detail oriented around like a big. Okay I want to execute a big idea. I want to have a big idea. Come to life and monetize that but you can only do that if you know how to execute it how to detail Orient Nice fascinating because most people think about just the technology at large and they see that as the the big idea and he liked everything to fit. You only saying like hey I have to think about it tactical standpoint. What got you like? What was the the foundational underpinning of like that thinking emerging tech so? We all love instant gratification. Some of us get it in different ways than others. I get instant gratification. Out of solving. Someone's problem okay. So if you think about solving a problem most people think about like the long game of solving the problem so AKA like like the product launch of Pop sizzle around. I think about like I know that I can figure something out for you. And Show you progress lying in an hour okay or less and so then I can feel good about myself the rest of the day. You can feel good about me. And that's how so. That's I'm super micro right. Yes in in that regard okay so by focusing on that what was like the first like you remember the first time you like just realize that you had instant gratification Asian internally from solving other people's problems yeah yeah so like when I was fifteen years. Old I didn't really like Being an attendee party hardy lake Friends with I didn't WanNa miss out on that like my friends you know. I didn't want to miss out like everyone else. I wanted to Goso like so my problem was like I didn't really know how to be like social at the party. Like I didn't want to be like the attendee at the party. So my solution for that was I want to be the DJ at the. Oh you were seriously wounded. Serious already. Cool so Records right records. Hundreds baby yeah rain. T T M fifty two okay. Why didn't go best across smooth superbowl of on the cosby? I don't know like he's a real techy. Actually making things worse taking cable here but coming back to that okay. So you're you're spending the party's you now. A part of the scene that evolves into this new era where you'd like now have a company you live where for the people that don't have. I live in Valencia Spain. That's so fascinating because you started a company in Nashville Tennessee. A- and you live in Spain. Yes how does that work at at large just in general yeah it makes no sense. It doesn't make any like blows blows people's minds when I tell them what's the time difference for the people is so between might support our okay seven hour time difference. That's that's cool because you can work on stuff their sleeve and they can work on stuff while you sleep. You've kind of got like the globalization Happening that's pretty cool but like tell me why and how go to Spain it to become an entrepreneur or be a business owner or yeah like what's not so most of us want to retire. Guess and we want to retire ear and enjoy life and the things that we want to do when we retire pretty much always include travel. Spend time with family I could. I could agree with that. And so my super smart wife had the idea a few years ago. Why wave clients anywhere and if we build up enough trust and reliability we just? That's what we do card. We solve those problems and if we do that then why not travel now and give our kids the experience experience now and we'll unlimit now. That's yes so when you walk me through it. Did you start the company Nashville. No you're always going to Spain or did you light just say. Hey I'm GonNa take you piece by piece and then you pick Spain because of specific reason like what was the thought process there. Well when I met my wife we met when we were in college so can she can stay coaster not west coast midwest and so she's a traveler and so I knew when I met her like I can't change her. She's who is GonNa WanNa Travel and sure enough when we got married. We started talking about when we got married. She's like when can we get out of Michigan. When can we the United States? When can be go to Spanish speaking country and so I kind of knew what I married her like? We're going to move to Spain. Fifteen years later. Thirteen years later removed his fame thirteen years later. Thirteen years in a making A. What's the billing? Tell me about that experience. It's been amazing experience from the regards that like. I just didn't know what I didn't know the world until I got it. It's it's going to see a so so you don't. It's like technology and what we talked about earlier insulate You don't know about the emerging technology so you become the practitioner in it and so the practitioner in like moving to Spain and living in Spain and it's been amazing to meet people from around the world it chain. It's changed my life when I so for someone that as in their mid career here. They want to be an entrepreneur. They kind of have established themselves some geo- geographical footprint that he's employees point A. Ah Yeah but they have this destination in mind as point B. and they don't want to reinvent themselves. What advice would you give to that person? Okay so there's something that you love and life and if you really WanNa move if you really WanNa get geographically from Point A. Point B. You have to go hard into what you love and so for me at age. Fifteen of his delaying the unlock for instant. Gratification came from playing a song and then the money came from Jiang Party. Yeah and then I had like the leverage and the flexibility ready to do a bunch of other stuff. Wow and so that's really what it what it is for anybody. So if you really WANNA move geographic locations and have like a true remote visit like actual remote business you have to hone in on what it is that you love to do because if you do that you can take that with you anywhere and you need the think less about the money side and think about more about the happiness on the fulfillment side that you would get out of the move got it and so you've optimized at this point your lifestyle so that you know it best suits you your family and your business and I want to jump back to your business. What is it like Nick for a client to be partner with data driven design? I know you're through Tracy. I know you're showing the future voice and how that integrates wordpress I know. Oh you can help them with the confidence strategy. But it's not every day in agency exist in two places that he's you know this small if you don't not as no I'm not as a day just absolutely. Yeah we we. We like being small and we're proud of and we actually we lead with who we are okay with exactly who so when you talk to me in a new client call perspective client call. I'm telling you we're small scrappy aid agency. We don't have an office. I'm just telling when you that flatly. So you you get like we're not fancy and so that kind of unlocks the whole say like we do good work regardless of where we are. I'm in Valencia Linzie. Spain teams in Nashville Tennessee. Seattle in Miami and there it is and then. How does the creativity change because an agency the difference between working with the standard? As as you get like you get you know what you're getting you're getting not necessarily the proverbial light grunt word that everyone's getting without the agency. But you get like this zone Bran Dan. This is like you know. Turn of the year. This is like we fit in. We're not necessarily leading the pack. But we're in the pack and wear that class when you work with a smaller agency agency you get a lot of that guerrilla marketing outside of the box like let's try a different. It's like the energy is just. It's it's it's it's an experience in itself sure absolutely. How do you cap captured that? Because I feel like just communication like yeah yeah miscommunicate something. There's a seven hour Delta between your team figuring it out and then you fingernail nat king compound over time and I think if our liquor potential client like. Isn't that a challenge. You face like it's like a fear that they're they look at. Yes so there's a couple of things we do to build that culture. Yes one is. We make sure that we all get together at least a couple times a year in Spain not yet and then the second thing we do is is. We'll do like a remote happy hour schedule. Zoom Conference for fifteen minutes and everybody will crack like some of sparkling water. If you don't drink some of us oh crack a beer. If you do drink and you know we will just say like what are you doing today. Talk about personal stuff. Yeah Nike's the water. Cooler require creating the water cooler experience experience but visually in that allows for creativity to manifest Boston and will say like shutdown slack shutdown email only beyond the zoom conference for fifteen minutes. It makes sense. Well it sounds like you've got incredible. Culture data driven design. I'm super impressed by just your ability to just think about the future at large large not necessarily only for business or only in technological environment but here's psychological in your family and like you know the lifestyle style that you've created. I mean that's a future looks like so. Thank you for taking this time thank you. I love being part of the community. I've never been happier in my life and I look forward to continuing to work with you thanks man.

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Champions League Group H Preview

Stoppage Time: Champions League

57:54 min | 2 years ago

Champions League Group H Preview

"Ah. What's up. Everybody welcome to the start of stoppage-time. I am your host max Baril is your podcast voted to the Champions League and there could only be one man today mister Reed. Ryan back on the show. Welcome sir glory, glory, Man, United glory, glory, Man, United, as you all know tonight die hard. Manchester United fans could only be one man here to talk Man. United group with me, closing out are group's group, preview episodes. Tomorrow we get. Our first day of games cannot wait. Get to get to see how Algo. I mean read. How many screens are you? Gonna have open to watch these games. I'm going to be sort of like in GoldenEye with Boris has got the wall of screens. I like it. That's my plan. That's a throwback reference to our young listeners. GoldenEye a video game on the Nintendo sixty four. But yeah, that's exactly what what life is going to be like, and it's gonna be. It's gonna glorious. We're going to finally get some games going, but we got quite the group here to talk about today. This is this is a tough one. I'm glad we kinda end on a high note gets talk about our favorite team, but this is a challenge in group. Would you say? Yeah, this is going to be a tough one. A couple of real blockbuster teams. And then you know the classic. Spanish. Upstart. That always provides issues to to the devils? Yes, indeed. All right. Let's let's let's flip this one because we're going to save Manchester United until the end because you and I will have the most to say, I imagine about them. You're gonna probably this might be a long episode folks. You might hear more than just what is relevant to the Champions League. You might get just a full on breakdown of what's going on with Manchester United right now. So we'll say that till the end Juventus obviously big dogs as well of this group, so we'll get to them in a moment. Let's start with those young starts at BSE young boys. Now, if you're like me, you wanna learn about more about this team. I give you full warning right now. Joan just start go typing in young boys into Google. You're gonna get into trouble. I think the FBI is now monitoring by my search. But anyway, the Swiss champions read how long's it been since young boys been in the champions the it's been a long thirty two years since the young boys made it to the Champions League. That's my first fact I have about them. Tell me second fact is they play at the door stadium. You. You would have that as a fact. You know, young boys winked or if I mean the jokes just right themselves of this team. You know, if if you're going to call y'all get your reads IP address. I don't associate with. I've never really been friends with him. I don't know how you got on this show off the grid is just only the dark web. Yeah, Turk with. Goodness, also not a safe place to be. All right. This was team? Yeah. I mean, not not the Swiss, not the Swiss champions of lates. We're used to seeing basil appear in the Champions League, but. All credits to the young boys, and that's not going to get old and I don't necessarily have all that much to say other than you know they're in for a fight in this group. It's not going to be easy for them. No. All right. Well, if you're if you're a big fan of young boys tweet at me and tell me what I need to know about young boys, which young boys you should be looking out for. Oh yes. I'd like to know law Swiss young boys, but you know, there's a, there's a few others in their one one, couple Irish, young boys. You know, I want to move on. Cut it out. Just in show's been canceled anyway. Apologies if offended by all that it's it's late at night. We're getting a little loopy here. But anyway, this this team certainly in for a fight. I think we're going to be a little bit out class, but I'm sure they will be extremely excited to be here and to welcome the likes of Juventus Manchester United in Valencia to the Wankdorf. All right. Let's talk Valencia Valencia. As you say, it's. Severe, not in the Champions League this season like they were last year, but Valencia, you know, you always have that kind of next level to your Spanish team and they always complicate things Barcelona, Real Madrid, even let's go Madrid, usually a class above, but teams like Valencia severe. These are talented teams and Valencia are not to be taken lightly. Valencia has been kinda out in the wilderness. The past couple of years they've gone through some changes haven't been able to keep a manager been able to lead them to sort of arrow stability who can who can forget the Gary Neville era of Valencia. Whoever thought that was gonna work out that like Gary is going to lead you. It was going to lead them to glory. I mean, like, yeah, he could barely speak English. They, they're trying to get him to lead a team in Spain. I mean, come on. But they've got Marcelino in there and he's kind of brought them back given some stability to their squad. Their transfer business. The summer was good. They didn't have any real major losses instead they, they brought back Zala gweat us from PS g made that alone permanent deal, got Kevin Gamero from Athletico Madrid and and machine bats on loan from from Chelsea. And then. Dennis Cherishev and Joffrey BIA. Also could be major impact players a growth brought in Cherishev on loan and permanent permanent deal. I think Cherishev obviously had a totally breakout World Cup and we'll hopefully keep that form going. He really, really made quite the impact and impression on the world. I hope I hope it that forward momentum just keeps carrying him because he was fun to watch as you say, get this on the other side of the spectrum, less than stellar World Cup. But hopefully that was more an anomaly than anything else we shall see could be a great year at Valencia last. Yeah, exactly. So you hope it just, you know, whatever reason to click with Portugal, I hope he gets, you know, hopefully that didn't psych him out. Conduct is a great defender. I think he's an impact player as you say, and I love Rodrigue. Oh, he didn't really get. I think he came on late against Russia if I'm not mistaken before spaying bouncing the World Cup, and I thought he looked so made the team so much more exciting. He so pacey and I think he's very talented. I think he's the kind of player who can really cause tremendous problems for defense. And we can replicate his ability to knock himself in the face off goalpost kick, then we're all going to enjoy this group. Yeah, I think Rodriguez really gonna be the the most important player for Balenciaga. You know, play real compact defense and then spring on the counter and Rodrigue. Like you said, pacey. He's got a real most for goal and a could be a real problem, especially for a team like Manchester United, who has trouble keeping possession effectively and whose defense appears shaky at best at the moments. But. Well, we'll get to that. We might have some tears on today's episode. Oh. It comes from love. Yeah. I mean, as you say Rodriguez, absolutely the guy you want on on the counter Bosch you I e is, you know, he's both sizable and pacey. So look for him to make a difference. Get us if he's playing on the wing, these Cherishev. These are all pacey players as you say. You got defenders like Jose Louise guy who's I think he's got a bit of speed in his step. I think this is a good team. It's really just. They haven't had the best start to the season, and so you know, but no one necessarily does unless you're Liverpool right now pre international break. I, I'd like to see this team of come together a little bit and show a little bit of that more exciting form, but. I think as you say, this is a team that can cause real problems also really excited about their. They've got a young midfielder Farren Torres who's been sort of billed as the next big thing in Spain. Was given his first team debut under Marcelino, and he's sort of been a fixture in the squad ever since I just just signed a new deal with a, you know, a big anti Madrid release clause hundred hundred million euros. So I think they have some real high expectations for him. Yeah. He could be a breakout player for them on this. On this big stage, it's always exciting. When you get to see younger players kind of break out team Valenciennes you say they're the kind of team who who might have, you know, we'll take those chances and starting a young player in the in the Champions League, and that can be real exciting for them. And hopefully they kind of capitalize on that. Any any closing thoughts on this team. A lot of the teams we've talked about so far play. Possession based possession based tactical schemes. And once he has kind of old school and that they just sit back absorb pressure and they really, they can hit you on the counter-attack and it's not. I I, it's become sort of unfashionable to do that. And so playing against some of these more modern tactical teams like event this and immense just United could pose a real issue. Yes. You know, I will. It's not necessarily the most pivotal position, but they did lose their right Bhagwat consul to Juventus. One of the many talking points of briberies here. I think that's a big loss. No question about that. And just because our other co host, the professor Willie cats Baril will would be upset if I didn't mention it. They have. They have lost Simone Zaza fans of the game. If you were around in two thousand sixteen for the euro's was a crucial penalty. Miss for Italy in what can only be described as a a dance. Maybe in the run-up to his penalty kick, it took an eternity. It involved many, many little steps and then just a fun during miss. So I think that's actually a benefit to this team to lose our good friends. Simone Zaza considered one of the worst penalties in history. That's pretty much always known for at this point. Hey, you know what? At some point, you gotta look at your career and say, what's the way I get into the history books? And if it means, take the worst penalty of all time. That's fine. Also, of course, losing on a free transfer, Manchester United legend. We know you got an idol to them in your back closet. Read Noni back to sporting. So there you go. Came the prodigal son return from Wednesay indeed. But there you go, I think. But I think this is a good team. They certainly have the potential to be good and I don't count this team out for sure. Agree. Let's let's skip on over to what would probably be the favourite of the group you would imagine Juventus new, the new home of the man. The myth legend the quads. Cristiano Renaldo after his hundred five euro one hundred, five million euro transfer at thirty three years of age has yet to score a goal for Juventus in his first three games. I'm gonna be. I'm going to be honest with you. Read I like Juventus chances not just getting out of this group. I think they might very well win the Champions League this season. It's very apparent that they're all in after this acquisition of an, although they've got. Under Allegra. They've had four doubles in the past four seasons and so domestic successes simply not enough. Yeah, they're measured now by their ability to win the Champions League. So of course they bring in the specialists Rinaldo who's become sort of a master of the Champions League with five cups to his name. They're in a real window mode. You know, he's thirty three, but obviously he's in peak physical condition. His role has changed over the years. He's not that speedy winger that we knew as on Manchester United. He's more of a. Stay stay, stable. Number nine, target man. Yeah, but he's very effective in that role berry. Although, I mean, we might see him still shift a little bit. I mean, obviously he's got a little bit free license to move. He pleases you don't keep Cristiano Renaldo in one spot, but he isn't quite clicked yet in the as you say as more of the number nine, we might see him shift a little bit more left, but I'm just going to say it right now if Real Madrid. Obviously they have won three straight champions leagues with Cristiano Renaldo, the leading the scoring every time if Juventus now win the Champions League. I'm sorry, Cristiano Renaldo. Put him down best of all time. Put down, read best of all time the goat. So I actually think he's going to be affective. His name is going to carry more weight than his actual talent at this point. That's fine. Okay. With it. So is he so think about this in the first couple of games that you've meant this? They played them a number nine out the top of the formation. He wasn't very effective. They shifted him out wide. He drags more defenders onto him. He doesn't get on the scoresheet, but he unlocks space for the rest of the team to operate in tonal. Essentially, he's just an very expensive. Tarp, it just like sucking defenders into him and they can't get away and man's Zukas three to operate. And just rack up goals might have thirty goals this year we're Elda might have fifteen, and I don't necessarily expect him scoreline goals. I expect him to suck up defenders and allow the rest of the team to operate, and that's fine if they win, that's great. Rinaldo 's lead them to another another championship or another champion's league title. But I don't actually think that's, I don't think it'd be a result of his individual brilliance, like you say, with a player like Messi. That's fair. I think that you making good point. I think it's an early season effect where if teams are overcompensating and they're ease drawing defenders out to the wing and players like Minzu catch, capitalizing scoring goals, teams are going to realize you can't do. Do it completely. Otherwise you're still gonna get scored on in which case you're going to have to just try and play a little bit of both and cover everybody in which case Cristiana will then find more space and I expect him to kick into gear. I know he hasn't scored yet. I think that is more the exception to the rule. I think he'll he'll get his groove. He's too much of a poacher. I mean, he's come very close or ready headers going just barely wide. He such he so good in the air. I mean, it's like his, I wouldn't say necessarily under appreciated, but he so deadly with the headers. I think he's going to rack and some goals and and I'm sticking with it. Cristiano Renaldo move to Juventus and gives them the Champions League. You know, I'm I'm putting it down putting it down, but what more scoreless match away from disteclared him a bust, bust going for the. Obviously, we're both excited to see the prodigal son returned to Manchester United. That'll be that'll be glorious return against his his former coach Jose Marino for many, many just so much drama there. So many storylines foot. Obviously, there was, you know, mile talk Cristiano Renaldo, returning to Manchester United, really more a contract bargaining tool than anything else that's actual of Paul pod bug going back to you Venice after leaving Manchester United for you Venice, just like if you're Paul pug, but you just can't. You just can't go anywhere else. You can't go back to dimensions. You can't flip flopping teams back and forth, lead them to them to the champions entitled go there. View. I've used up all my young boys jokes anyway. I think I mean, this team, obviously we're spending a lot of time talking about Christiane Rinaldo my thoughts on that. You know, there are a lot of criticism of how much money they spent. I think just in terms of financial decision, Christine, you know spending one hundred five million euros on him. Piece of cake deal. I think totally worth it. He's already raised the profile of Juventus and the Syria. More importantly, no one go to websites ESPN wherever you get your soccer news. You've never seen in the last season so many like what's going on in the Syria this weekend. It's it's all because of that man, so, but this is certainly not a one man team. I love that they brought in Douglas cost from from buyer Munich. I think he is a dangerous dangerous player, jock. He had a really nice year for them last year. No, they brought on a permanent basis, which is great. Yeah, but it's, I mean, from the transfer business, it's very clear that they are in it to win it. Now they made some good upgrades. Replacing some agent players like we mentioned Jau Selo and Emerson signed to replace Stefan, lick Steiner and semi Kadurah. We're both kind of get rid of this play. Everyone should fire Sammy playing anywhere at this point. I love it. I love 'em Richon I'm I think Liverpool made a mistake in losing him along the way. I think he's extremely talented player. I think Juventus will benefit from his talents. Yeah. Geneva phone has gone, but we'll Jack Shehzad. He is gonna step up in his place. You know, who's playing some last year. They were splitting goalkeeping duties, and I always had a soft spot for him. He's, he's a great follow on social media and kind of a weird dude. So. Happy, see and get a chance to to really shine in that number one number one jersey. Then Leonardo Baluchis back from Milan. It's a pair up with Chile that that really stalwart defensive pairing that led them to success in the past. You know, I think that they realize that that move didn't work out for anyone. And so they're bringing them back, giving them a chance to shine in in the place where he made his name, one hundred percent. I, I mean, I think in terms of defenders with Joel solo. Kill any who's obviously just ageless. It seems. Alexandra is he's a great leftback I, I'm not as high on Hsieh's knee as you are. I mean, do you really think he is a world-class Goldie? I mean, I know you might like following on Twitter. You getting your updates, Instagram, like the cool kids, but. Is he, you know, when it comes a quarter-final semi-final you're facing another top team. He who you want between the sticks, I'd rather have him than Alison. Okay. Okay. Kind of a reductive argument doesn't necessarily get you anywhere. It's liver both Roma last year and Liverpool. This year I haven't necessarily won the Champions League, so I'm not sure not sure what to do with that. But. Top five, but he's top twenty. Maybe. Okay. He's he's good enough where I feel confident I don't expect him to try. Kroft turn in his in his own box like Alison would expect him to sort of be solid and not making stakes just on the math. Those thirty two team tournament sixteen of those teams are going to to not make it out of the group, but he's a top twenty goalie necessarily not exactly like top level. But anyway, we'll see how he does. I agree with you. I I think he's he's gotten maybe a little bit of a bum rap in his earlier parts of his career. He, I think it's honorable what Juventus have done where they said, you know, this is your job to have after phone leaves, and they've stuck true to that. When I, you know, I could easily have seen when the time comes and now your phone is out the door and you're like, oh, so it says knee full-time now that that's when you may be splashed the cash on a new goalie anyway. So credit to them when they bring in. The AC Milan keeper, something like that. Someone who. Someone some big name player that might very well be if I mean if they get bounced, I'm sure that will happen. But I mean this team as we've talked about with other teams where you don't, I don't really see a weakness other than maybe their goalkeeper. I mean, many Banacci's. Fantastic. If two. I wanna talk about that for a second. Yeah, but Tweety is is fantastic. One Quadra tow is such a dangerous player. I wrote Rigo bent on core is a player of the future who might still make a difference. Core is a player on this team. I mean, you know, he wasn't bad at the World Cup. I think, you know, in with players like him and Richon like you're really looking at the future coming together. I think those guys, we'll see maybe some time. Maybe those young boys. But yeah, let's talk polity Bella because here's the issue. I mean, Cristiano Renaldo. Not exactly a player who like helps those around him flourish in a way and like axes, a mentor. But if Cristiano Renaldo Impala deba- can just find a way to play off each other. Well, like we so good. Yeah. Yeah. But we'll see. I think Rinaldo is coming into this understanding that he's the old dog. Yeah, that he needs these other players in order to make this work. You can't just do it all himself like the early days, a Real Madrid, so expect to expect to see a lot more link-up play a lot more patience from Rinaldo. You know where he might have just been very frustrated early. I think that there's going to. He understands that there's going to be a learning curve to get this little workout. And I think it's everyone's best interests that it does work out because you could see the the crowd and Turin turning on this team. If they just can't score, you know the, are they gonna start. Booing Rinaldo see happening. I think you'd have to go number of more games and I just don't think Christiane let's go that long without scoring. If nothing else the winning penalty at some point, just let him take it. Just like cool things down, but will. I mean it's how they started the season. We'll see if if it comes back around if they stick with it, but just on paper, if Cristiano Renaldo playing Moore's number nine and deba- behind him and then Douglas cost an Quadra on the wings. Like, are you kidding me? God terrifying. Yeah, just a real quick. Looking at the the Italian papers from from last week they've already started late. I know you which I know you have delivered to your home on on on a daily basis. I'm a huge fab, longtime subscriber. Tuttosport of course, slammed as the nowhere man already. You know, it's only been a couple of games, but they're not afraid to turn on him, you know. All right, let's do something I, you know, he's, they were all very excited to see him and you know, yes, he's looked a little bit. We're getting to see a little bit of that. Temper tantrum Rinaldo and his frustration which is never a good sign, but I'm, I just think he's too good oklaho- bounceback once once the Champions League starts, he's going to score four goals on Manchester United. He'll be fine, and that's really all that matters for them anyway. All right. Let's talk Manchester, United, are our beloved are struggling, Manchester, United finish second place in the Premier League last season, having a tough time, tough time keeping up with pep Guardiola and his Manchester City team. But this team just. Really playing. Super great. The first thing I asked myself when I was looking at Manchester United was, are they any better than the team that was swept out of the Champions League last year by severe. And what conclusion did you come to? Absolutely not. If anything, there just seems to be more chaos, less cohesion. It's like the defenders got worse as. If you can tell very down on on how can you not be? I mean, you know, it's just as you're a hundred seven, right? Which is that? I mean, we came out of the World Cup, and our good friend does Marino is just been like wining and crying. Since literally the minute the woke up was over. He was been, oh, this isn't a terrible season where things are really rough and I don't even know. I'm gonna find MARCY. Like I understand things happen, whatever you have crunch issues, there's no worse look than finding a player for spending a few extra days with his newborn child. Yeah, when the preseason in Los Angeles and like it's irrelevant and you're finding this guy for being with his his new baby, like. He's already had a tough summer. He was left out of the French World Cup squad the year. They win the World Cup. I mean, it's just things were going well for him, and he's kind of become the scapegoat a little bit this year. Now that Luke Shah's is playing out of his mind. Marito's punching renewed the new punching bag and Marshall's become that guy and breaks my heart. I think Marcial is such a talented player. I think if you're not if you gave not saying he's most consistent player in the world, but I think he's one of those players that the more he plays, he's going to play better and he's just not playing. So he's playing worse and it becomes self filling prophecy. I think he could be a world world class talent. I mean, we've seen what he can do, but he's just being stifled and we're stuck in this horrible situation where Marino just doesn't like it doesn't wanna play in, but Manchester United have him under this long contract and they recognize his talent, and they're probably looking like, well, how much longer marine you actually going to be around. So just keep him around until new coach. Comes along who might make him thrive. It's just it would be silly to sell him. So he just remains and it's depressing. Because like other players before him where you you bring in these young talented strikers it always kind of it was the same teacher Reto. We brought him in, he scored tons of goals, and then he kind of fell out of favor didn't play as much and then became the self-fulfilling prophecy. Next thing, you know, he's out the door and he was not saying he was. The next coming of greatness, but it's just that kind of thing over and over again. I just I don't know what to do there. You know, this isn't Marino's tried and true. Pattern where he, no, he, he will pick a player, alienate them and sorta causes stinking grumpy, and and then eventually he'll lose the lose the players. And I think that's coming. It's a matter of time. But let's let's let's go through this team. Let's do starting to back and then go and then work our way forward. Yes, let's do it. Dovid Donna, the former glory, man, all of a sudden he goes off to this little side tournament called the World Cup. He stinks it up and now he's not so good anymore. And what happened? It's driving me nuts. Yeah, he suddenly human. I. I, it's terrified of all the things that have happened this season. Just ahead not being able to make basic stops is just in Newry aiding. Yeah. No. I mean, it's like, you know, you're on the field of battle. You're warriors out there. Just slashing it giving you inspiring you. And then next thing you know, he's taking a broad sword of the gut false to the ground and all everyone else in your in your armies. Just like, then then what do we have now it's it's demoralizing. I don't know what happened at the World Cup, but it just didn't work for him and he's come back, mortal man. Is it you think Courtois going around the dribs and just knowing officially that dream is dead, that just stuck in Manchester forever. He's now here. He was always playing for that Real Madrid contract, and now it's gone and. You know, I think he's all sad about it. I think it'll kill. He'll play himself into into form again. It's just a matter of time. I think it's confidence, little shook. I mean, he is incredible. Every every every God even Jesus wandered in the in the wilderness for a little bit. He's he'll come back. All right. Well, that's not an understanding. We're not. Verging into hyperbole in the slightest. I mean, if you're if you're if you had your druthers here, what is this defensive line look like to you? So actually long, actually young and until you have been great. Squad players for the past couple of years, but they're both getting old and they're losing that pace and they need to be replaced. Thankfully, Luke Shaw has managed to just absolutely up and expectations be named the player of the month. He's just come out. Guns blazing in great, which is great to see. Because again, that was one of those frustrating. Like when you see some Marino and just kind of crushing on this guy that you're like, this is like the future and you're just ruining it for no reason. So he's in the team and he's looking solid. Hopefully he stays healthy on the right. I'm excited to see Diego Deloitte. The new nineteen year old Argentinian signing. He's supposed to be the future. He's ports, but yeah. But yeah, I thought he was on tinian czar. We got a lot of facts rolling around in these heads of ours, and you know, bound bound to mix fax of every time once in one. Yeah. I mean, again, certainly a player with tremendous upside, but is he a Champions League player? This year's going to be, it's going to have to be, okay, go on. And then in the middle, this is where things get a little bit disgusting. Essentially choosing between small ING by Phil Jones and Lindelof. Yes. The fact that the fact that you we have to even say that you're choosing between. Phil, Phil Jones is in the mix is like he's got a garden claim time, recently reassuring to figure is that going well, is that going wealth Jones in his playing time? I just for the sake of it just for the sake of it. I want small ING and Jones to start against Juventus and I just wanna see, Phil Jones deal with Cristiano Renaldo just for the fun of, let's just see how many goals we can let in. It'll be a relevant. Phil Jones look at red card in the first like five minutes anyway. But yeah, like a terrifying prospect. I barely by Lindelof would be the starter I agree with you by Lindelof is my, I think Lindelof play well, the World Cup, I think, by, you know, against good last year, he looked good. Some injury issues, some consistency issues. I think if he can get some confidence get some consistency going, I think he can really be like a, you know, a central pillar for our defense going forward and Lindelof Mike, very well grow into a stalwart partner. For him. It's like there's there is this potential there and despite Marino and his defensive prowess, you just don't really feel like they're improving though. Yeah, they are making some very basic positional blunders. Missing men, marking assignments on quarters. I real basic stuff that as a combat, it shows a lack of skill on the players behalf, but also poor coaching by Marie. Oh, and his his staff yet. So it's it's hard to blame just just the players for for the issues that are that are coming up? No, yeah. I mean, I agree, but. Yeah. I mean, there's not much more to say on that other than. You know, it's they need to. These aren't untalented players Phil Jones aside, and they just need to. Yeah, exactly. They need some leadership. They need to really have a defensive cohesion that just does not even remotely exist. All right. Let's talk midfield go for it. What's your? What's your ideal here? So my ideal would be three man midfield. Madij in the back defensive breaking things up, then either Fred or full Laney. I mean. And then Paul being given some some freedom to to move forward fretful any being that box to box midfielder covering the the defensive space in linking up the defense and the and the attacking attacking forwards. I, for some reason this extremely uninspiring today. About one of the best players in the world. And yet there isn't real creativity in this midfield. I just don't. I throw one Mata in there, but he hasn't looked great. Recently, he looks a little bit washed. I don't know where you going. I mean, obviously, you you, you gotta. You gotta build around pug though. He is essential. Whether it's marina which it probably is not looking towards the future, you gotta find someone who understands man who can bring him that joy. We've seen that when he's enjoying himself. He's playing great. So find someone who makes that guy happy obviously, far more important to the future of Manchester United then Marino or just about anyone else on this team. So I think finding a way to get him integrated and excited is crucial. Yes, I agree with you that it's probably Montijo at the back because I don't think yet that we've seen that Friedkin really fully handle that role. He's got tremendous energy and he's, you know, he's a box to box midfielder, but I'm not sure he's going to just stay centered at the back providing that defensive cover which we desperately need. So I think you've got to kind of favor multiple defensive midfielder. So I agree with you. I mean to me, I think it's it's pug. Fred, and obviously, I think players like Laney who unfortunately is one of our best players at the moment. All of a sudden. I don't know where that reality came from. It's right next reality. But anyway, I think he has a role to play and the one who I think is again, who you know, it seems like he's the favourite son one moment and then not. The next is ender Herrera, who is out of currently. It'll be out of the contract this season. He's upset that he hasn't been offered a new contract. He's pretty pretty sure. And I would imagine he's correct that he'll have no shortage of suitors come January, who would be more than happy to sign him on free contract. I think we would be amiss to let him go. I think he is a talented player. I think he can play that deep lying role. Obviously it can be a little unpredictable and he's not. He's he's an easily carded player. Started started at centerback. Yeah. That was a mistake. But yes, you can. You can technically start any player at center back if you want to read. I think I think I'd like to see him essentially if he's maybe deputy to Mata and maybe grows grows into that that role or if Fred is can show that he, you know, I wouldn't necessarily Mondavi not a young man and he slow. So ideally, I hope we're building towards a future. Where Fred is that that deeper line midfielder and you got Pogue and maybe let under Harare move forward a little bit more or God forbid bringing new exciting midfielder. Andres Pereira's been playing. We'll see what he's capable of. I, I don't know. I personally, I could see two years from our Rena top ten list on ESPN or gold dot com or something top ten Manchester United busts. And number seven is Fred just feels very sure. Feels like it's coming. He looked like a chicken with his head cut off against Brighton, just making stupid fouls. Just moving in from the Ukrainian league. It's it's an adjustment. No question. I think he, I don't know. I think I'm, I'm optimistic, maybe I'm being silly, but I'm up to mystic on that guy. I like Endor Harare lot. I'd like to see him get more war time in the midfield and I'd be happy to see him start over, Fred. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's given that he has more experience with the team. Maybe Fred is the player who's coming off the bench and it's polka Monson in Harare. I like that. I've got. I got no real patients for Jose Moreno. His Scott, Nick Tomei experiment. Like come on, let's act. Let's act like a world class team and Mecom as great fine. He can be the future, but let's he's he's a care about Cup player. Not player. All right. Offense where what's it looking like for you? So lukarco Lukaku. You have to play them up top. You have to. And then. This video controversial, but I cannot stand Alexis Sanchez. I think that was a terrible citing. Very unmanned. Just United player. Essentially, it feels like they just decided to pay him only to prevent him from going to city. But now that paint him a ton of money and they've got a play him. I know he can change games and he's a world class player, but I just don't see it. I don't like him. Attitude, I don't know, but. Just doesn't seem like fits in the team with it for me. I don't know. What do you think I agree with you in the sense? I don't think he's, I don't think he's right for Manchester United fits. I like him. So I'm not I, I don't. I don't like him. If you scoring against us. But as a as a player, I think he's he's scintillating. I think he's very exciting. His attitude doesn't bother me. I just necessarily. I mean, he can be a little pouty at times especially when he's from United, and he's regretting his life choices. But I agree that it was like felt like a total desperation move. I think you're right. That is probably like, you know, we just bought him so he wouldn't go to Manchester City. I think that's well put. I, I agree. You have to play him. I mean, exactly. You broke the Bank to to bring this guy in. Manchester United roll. The dice on that late late in life, signing of Robin van Persie, and it totally worked out. We won the league that season. Thirty million well-spent just to keep the win the league, but this doesn't feel right, and it's just not vibe ING, and maybe a different coach can bring something out of him, but I don't know how much longer he'll be around. This feels this feels like it's got unhealthy, Maria written all at all over it where you bring in, you know. A, you know, a creative star just to see him leave a few minutes later after he realizes that we've sucked the soul right out of Old Trafford. Yeah. So I mean, that leaves you with Lukaku area, and it's going to be Lukaku Sanchez. And maybe I think he'll play Matta out on the wing. I don't know, maybe rash, I, but I don't think he'd trust rash, especially after the red card. Earlier in the season. I see Marci getting getting out, but I don't see that happening. I just don't know who to Midi Andres Pera Herrera. Orlean guard. I mean, these guys just say this, but I don't have any feet and other inspiring to me. Which is not getting your pumped. I I in like an ideal world and had things been going differently. The last couple seasons, I would've loved if we're building towards a current reality where it was Marcial in the left Lukaku in the middle and rash furred on the right and that was our Trident, and they were vibe ING to me. That is, that's a strikeforce built for the future of pure excitement right there. I mean that God, I dream in my mind. I sound so beautiful, so beautiful, sounds fantastic. It is so far from reality that there's no point in even thinking about it because you just find yourself crying in the shower, like Tobias from arrested development. So the reality is, as you say, it's going to be Lukaku in the middle, it'll be Sanchez. And then I think it's probably gonna be Jesse Lynn guard, which is fine maybe. And he's like this player who's just tip toeing around making that next big jump in his career, but likes to kind of retreat back into anonymity. I don't think Juan Mata is the guy as you say. I just I think he's a good player if anything drop him a little further back. But if you need like some goals and you wanna play him in a more offensive midfield role, but I don't think he's, I never. I just don't think he's the winger that we need. So I mean, obviously I would pick. I mean, I want to start rash verd- is other than Poca our most important asset, and I think he has all the everything. We need to be a fantastic player, but he needs needs nurturing, and he needs playing time. And yes, it's true that he was naive to get that red guard. But you know all not handled in the best way by Maurino either. We've got multiple childish people foot. I don't know if you know this read, but he has won three Premier League titles which is more than anyone else currently in the Premier League by two and everyone else has zero. So suck it. Yeah. Well, that's not doing anything. I want to get your thoughts on one thing real quick here there was the big there was the big to do over the summer. Everyone. Everyone hoping Manchester United lure in Zindedine Sadan to be the coach. Would you want the donnas your coach here for Manchester United? So the way I feel about Sadat's kind of the way I feel about Carlo enchilada. He's one of those guys who just like, gets everyone in a in a room and says, you know, let's just go have fun. You guys got there and play. He's not a tactician. He just wants to he's amendment ajar. I mean at this point I wouldn't be upset if za Don came in. I mean, okay. I think he's one of pub idols. I think it would be a lot of a lot of fun to, I think pull will be be out there having fun. And that's one of the things that's really important. I think it'd be good at a good inspiration for the youth. Inspiration for you. But I think that he, you know, he probably bring a good staff with him. I think it'd be nice change. I doubt it's going to happen, but I agree. I was going to happen. I'm going to contradict myself because I agree where I said, just bring someone in to make punga thrive, and I agree with probably do that very thing. But to me not to compare in tactically to to Marino. But to me, it's similar in the sense that I don't think is ever going to be a coach at anywhere for more than three seasons. And I think he's going to be a specialist in winning knockout tournaments, which is frankly, what Marino kind of specializes in to a certain extent. I don't think I don't think the Don showed a tremendous affinity at winning the for winning Lalita. He showed very talented at winning the Champions League, which, frankly is the most important thing and this what the show is about. But I just don't see that as being a building to the future. You know that you're ever going to get another ceramics Ferguson, but you need a player a coach. I think gonna take on that role for more than three years. And I don't think Saddam's ever going to do that either. I think you know, rightfully so he's going to get kind of worn out. He's gonna put everything he's got into it, and I just don't think he's going to have that long jetty. And I don't think he's necessarily have an eye to really building a future for the for the clubs. So to me, it's it's the more current successful version of the same thing we currently have. Well, David Moyes is is still billable. Bring him back. Eating rumor the rumor that he is potentially going to be the next US. Men's national team coach. I read that and immediately walked out at my brain. I would be a tremendous mistake, please that, but I, yeah. David Moyes, never got a fair shake. Let's bring it back. Let's bring him back. Anyway, I do like to building on what you're saying though that about sedan that I imagine. I kind of imagine that anytime his team is down at halftime. He's just like, brings everyone in is like told you about the time headbutted a guy in the World Cup. And you just kind of inspires spies everyone through that one story time and time again. All right there it is Manchester United. Any any final thoughts. You know, I think that they are. Renew can right this ship and get these players playing together. They have the talent to make it far in this tournament there they have some a great collection of players, but they're just are not playing together as a team right now. That is really the worst thing that they just like there's no chemistry out there correctly. Yeah. And so we'll see if that could change. Does. I am very low on them. You know, maybe maybe it's the wrong pairing a certain way where I don't know if we'd see the forest from the trees. We came off very dour on this on this group because we live it and we are not happy with the current reality. But as you say, I mean pulp Oba Kaku Alexis Sanchez. These are world class like some of the best. Literally some of the best players in the world. So, and you've got a coach who for all his faults has a certain talent for winning knockout round tournaments, not necessarily the prettiest way, but he's got a formula for winning then that has proven successful in the past. So those things combined and you say, sure, why can't Manchester United going win this tournament or make a super deep run, but it's it's the chemistry aspect. That's that's keeping us all. Sad. Yeah, I'm very excited to watch these matches because it's going to be roller coaster. I can already tell, and I think for all their fault and for all our faults in the league and everything that's going to be, these players are going to be at their highest on Champions League day. Now the question is, is Marino going to just try and spite everyone and cut off his nose despite his face and start MC Tomei Andres Pereira Marcos Rojo and jogo Deloitte on on Champions League day just to show all the other players that he can. That would be a shame. All right. Let's talk predictions here. What's. How you see this group. So I've got young boys at the bottom. They unfortunately don't have really have a chance here. The hardest choice is between second and third. So should we should we do this in sandwich style. You've got young boys in the bottom. Who do you have at the top of this group? Read event this. I've got you vent, so the top. So we're on the same page here Juventus at the top young boys at the bottom, how we have second and third playing out. I cannot in my in my right mind, say Manchester United Argo are gonna be bumped out the group stages. I can't. I can't do it. They have to make it if they don't God, that is just a colossal failure on everyone's part. If they get knocked out in the in the Champions League in the group stages, I can't imagine like players like Paul bar Lukaku stain, they they'd have to leave or or radio will get fired. I mean, it's just insane. It's insane to think that so they're gonna finish second version. Third, it could easily go the other way though easily. Yeah, I, I agree. Manchester United, get knocked out. In the group stage, I think Marino gets fired. Then. Assuming we're not like somehow on undefeated run in the in the Premier League. But those both happened, I would be very shocked that we are somehow undefeated and getting knocked out in the group stage. I got a faith in Manchester United. I have to I. So I agree with you. I agree with you. My heart and every I dunno, I, it's all their Manchester United in second place except for the fact that our players just seem unhappy and if for no other reason than I hope it's just to not jinx it, I'm saying Valencia in second place. Oh my God. I just I don't like the trajectory where on. Yeah, we won a game, but like. It's just it's not. It's not looking good right now unless I just don't see as everyone continues to be around. Each other things improving marina is not the kind of guy who gets cheerier as the season goes on unless he's winning. He's the kind of guy who becomes just looks more and more like a homeless drunk who hasn't shaved in three months. You know, it's just like he, you know, he always looks so fresh and clean shaven on day one. And I feel like he's already, you know, wail passes five o'clock shadow, which is never a good sign. Why you're doing this because we needed, you know, I have me say they're gonna finish. Second is jinxing him, so we needed a counterbalance it. Yeah, I, I'm not just saying that for the sake of the for the for the sake of jank's. I really do Valencia have what it takes. I think about. I think about that as the matchup is that I think those are going to be crucial games, Manchester United against Valencia and his Manchester United going to be able to defend against players like Rodrigue. Oh, you know, like when Rodriguez got the ball at his feet and he's running at that Manchester United defense, and Phil Jones gets panic in his. I like what's going to happen. Get smoked absolutely smoked. And then you know you gotta just keep in mind who knows might very well come down to goal difference in which case the ten. In goals that juventas piles on aren't going to work in our favor. So. Happy days. How did this episode start glory, glory, knighted. Knighted. Bring the game days just just I need match day one. Well, it is tomorrow. We everything kicks off tomorrow. September eighteenth we got game September eighteenth, September nineteenth. We'll have episodes those very days. We'll have to eighteenth one of the nineteenth breaking down each day of games. Look for those few hours after after the games are over, we'll break it all down. We'll give are funny awards at the very least. I need some pulp Oba Hera wards in this in this Champions League, if he's not winning the hair best hair, then like really what has the world come to. Agreed. Agreed. All right. Well, anyway, that we have it. We got eight preview episodes in the books. There's literally nothing else except to play these games and get it all started. I can't wait read. I can't wait to break down some games with you. That's always joy, and I appreciate all hor work. You put into these group preview episodes. No-one sir. Brings the historical facts like you do. I try, I try. Absolutely. All right. That is. That is it's obviously tomorrow we're coming at you match day. One tweet at me at max, Perot pods. You can tweet me during the game. Share your thoughts, share your thoughts on our group previews. Anything you want discussed in our matched a recaps. You can always check out our website stoppage-time pod dot, pod bean dot com. Review us leave us. Leave us items reviews and gives five stars. If you if you please, that makes a huge difference the show. And if you want to support the show, even joined our group preview episodes, you can do that at pay pal, dot ni slash stoppage-time help keep the Mike's on for the whole Champions League season. We gotta eat over here. So anyway, it's anyway, we do this because we love it and we're happy to have you along for the ride until tomorrow. And our first day of games, though that is the end of stoppage-time.

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#796 - Real Estate Agent Supplements Commissions By Renovating Homes

Side Hustle School

08:50 min | 1 year ago

#796 - Real Estate Agent Supplements Commissions By Renovating Homes

"Sonesta school is brought to you today by linked in. Thanks linked in their editorial team has a new podcast out called. Hello monday. It's all about how to get the most from Monday and your career. And in fact, I'm pretty sure it's applicable every day of the week but calling Hello Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, etc. Which is kind of a long name. So they went with Hello Monday. Now, whether you're five hours into your first job or have just five hundred left until retirement. They'll be ready to take on each day of the week with the knowledge to make your career work for you find Hello Monday on apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to side hustle school. What's up my friends? So glad you're here. In today's story a real estate agent and Valencia Spain supplements his income. I renovated apartments it starts when he grows. Tired of seeing potential buyers? Reject promising homes because they were in need of renovation when he learns to project manage that renovation himself ends up with more sales and additional twenty two hundred dollars a month. This is a lesson in spotting a problem in proposing a solution. It's an example of how when something is working. You can often make it work more in this case, adding a new side income to his main paycheck. And it's a case study. How creative thinking followed by industrial application can take you are what's my hope that satisfies schools. Take you far in your own quest for more freedom through additional income by creating asset for yourself. So this story lots of detail is coming up right after this message, say tuned. Son isel school is brought to you by swell. Investing is an online impact investing platform that allows you to make smart investments that align with your values. Are they offer seven portfolios comprised of companies, actively addressing global issues? This makes sense because resources are diminishing our population is growing so the demand for things like renewable energy and clean. Water is on the rise. Better yet swells fees are flattened fair investing five hundred dollars cost you less per year than your morning. Make it a goal this year to align. Your investments with your values. Just visit swell investing dot com slash hustle to sign up, and they'll add fifty dollars to your account when you do the same swell. Invest in progress. Graham hunt. Works pole time in real estate as successful agent and Valencia Spain he knows a thing or two about selling property. You probably heard the real estate agents mantra location location location. It's just at the main reason to buy a property is for where it is not what it is for the most part. This is true. But not always seaside homes in tourist hotspots will command a higher price. But there comes a point of diminishing returns, or the location doesn't outweigh other factors such as the quality of the property and its condition. Grandma's genus firsthand during his career after selling real estate throughout Valencia. There was a common theme among sellers. They almost never presented their homes. Well, many of those homes have been passed on his part of it. Inheritance, and such they hadn't been updated since the nineteen sixties sometimes to blunt, they just looked awful. By contrast Valencia is a beautiful place a coastal city densely populated with both locals interests, many potential buyers are looking for properties they can use this holiday homes or. Vacation rentals. It's not shocking that apartments or houses that are a mess are hard sell over and over again Graham heard this is a great location. But we can't see ourselves buying this place. As is in fact, that type of feedback became so common that he could predict it during showings sales fell through constantly because of it these untidy resonances in desirable locations where affecting his ability to sell property and to make a living. He kept thinking why can't the seller? Put a little more time into sprucing up their place before listening it for sale then one day, he had a perspective shift. If there was nothing you could do to make the sellers act in their own best interests, perhaps he can convince the buyers to purchase with a little incentive. You see aside from selling property as an agent Graham had purchased renovated and flipped a few properties in Valencia himself throughout that process. He'd made connections with a number of reliable builders people he knew he could trust to provide good quality work at a reasonable price. He'd also developed a keanae for what buyers we're looking for. And he saw an opportunity to combine these skills. Experiences in managing building renovations. For new buyers. He decided to try offering the service as an add on while showing properties for sale. You would explain to buyers that instead of the property being fixer upper he could take the hassle out of everything by acting as a project manager getting those local builders to renovate the apartment before the new owners moved in the idea seems simple enough and soon Graham had a chance to test it out when afternoon he was showing property, by the beach. Sure enough that issue of untidiness cropped up again. But this time before the buyers had time to reject the property Graham suggested they take a look at a recent renovation completed for an apartment he was planning to flip. It happened to be in the same building with the same layout. So he knew the renovation would do a good job convincing the buyers when they walked into that modernize department they were floored and not just because of the new floor renovated apartment. Looked felt nothing like the one that was for sale Ramat splendid if they purchased the apartment he could project manage the renovation. He would handle the back and forth in exchange. He would charge a one hundred euro fee. Per week. That's about one hundred and thirteen dollars. He estimated the upgrade would take around twelve weeks. The client would be responsible for paying the builders as well as any cost of materials, and this case they wanted the apartment to look exactly the same the one he had renovated. So it wasn't a difficult task not only was able to Nettie commission from the sale one that almost got away. But also turn that sale into an additional twelve hundred euros or thirteen hundred sixty dollars in his pocket earned that fee. He would personally check out the site once a week to make sure everything was on track. The renovation went off without a hitch twelve weeks later, the client moved in and couldn't have been happier with the outcome based on that first excess. He decided to keep construction going on this little side project in time. He learned a few things Graham built on a team of solid builders. He knew it only do quality work he increased his price to one hundred and fifty euros per week. And in addition, he became more efficient. He would still make one physical visit to the site each week. But if more visits were needed, he used FaceTime to assess the property and avoid additional trip as the client. Base group Graham hired a few part time project managers. He pays them. Fifty percent of the total and keeps the other fifty percent for himself. He currently serves anywhere from ten to twenty clients per month which results in around two thousand euros in profit each month that's a bit more than twenty two hundred dollars this after he's paid his freelance project managers and remember because of the new service. He's also making home sales that he might have missed out on. So the profit is likely much higher. This extra income has helped Graham finds stability in his work on a personal level. He's carrying for a son with autism who attend school online. He now has more time to spend with him at home and more money to pay for the school in the future Graham hopes to hire more project managers to handle larger renovation projects that may allow him to build this side hustle into its own sustainable business. Shift in perspective appraise that I took away from the story as I was working on these notes for a long time. He's like why in the world are sellers not doing a better job preparing their property for listening. You know, it's in their best interest to do it. But for some reason, it's just not happening. And so that was frustrating. But even if you have the solution, you can't force somebody to solve the problem. So when he had that shift in perspective began thinking of it from the buyer side. That's when he had a totally different idea to do this renovation project management, which becomes the side-hustle. Couple thousand dollars a month helps him sell more homes, which is probably more than a couple thousand dollars extra month. And as I said, it's now becoming a sustainable business of its own. So those ships in perspective can be valuable could there be some opportunity in front of you perhaps to increase your income? Diversify your income or otherwise expand on what you're already doing. That's my challenge and encouragement for you today. Don't forget inspiration is good. But inspiration with action is better. Today's show. No, it's all right side school dot com slash seven nine six. Just what that's for episode seven hundred ninety six eight hundred is almost here. Thank you so much listening. I'll be back again tomorrow. My name is Chris kilovolt, and this is side hustle school. From the onward project.

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Before Daylight

Dateline NBC

1:25:42 hr | 6 months ago

Before Daylight

"Some people learn the hard way in the new. Hbo Film Bad Education Academy Award Nominee Hugh Jackman and Academy award winner. Allison Janney Stars. Long Island. School district supervisors that find themselves at the center of a major scandal inspired by true events. The movie follows Hugh Jackman. Frank Tassone passionate but greedy superintendent. Whose hard work and loyalty from his assistant. Superintendent Pam Gluck in played by Allison. Janney earns their schools national recognition when a student reporter tracks a paper trail and embezzlement scheme unfolds and frank who prizes his power and the illusion of success will stop at nothing to protect his school districts status. Don't Miss What. Indie wire calls a masterful diabolically. Smart Crime Story Thoroughbreds Director Corey Finley depicts a powerful story of greed utilizing a biting humor elevated by Jackman Janney and a supporting cast. That includes Ray Romano and Geraldine Viswanathan. Bad Education is available on. Hbo NOW HBO and catch it streaming soon on HBO. Max Lester Holt tonight on dateline. It was a murder that rocked quiet college town a student who knew a secret and someone willing to kill to keep it safe. He kept telling me he was. GonNa die young but I never dreamed that he was GonNa die. That Jesse's body was laying in between two houses on his back. It was obvious that this was a homicide. We had several suspects. I just thought his behavior reeked of guilt and innocent and doesn't act like that. He lied lied and lied and lied about sex. Sex and sex. There are a lot of people that cheap doesn't make him a murderer. All of a sudden this puzzle all came together at the end of the day else had a motive seeds on the phone. He's got a gun he was crying. I said fight this. This is crazy. Oh my God look. We need to get this right. Here is Keith Morrison with before daylight. He could have been sunbathing here in the grass naked but for a pair of blue shorts is face turned up toward the June. Sky was beautiful. It was afternoon by the time someone noticed. Though he'd been lying here still silent since before daylight here. Among the old rooming houses in Colombia where University of Missouri Students were winding down their school year. It was June fifth. Two thousand four back then. We were on pagers. Sure I of course I knew my boss's phone number and it had a nine one one behind it and I was ordered to come help investigate by the time. The news go to Detective John. Short uniform cops at strung up there yellow tape. We're taking their pictures. What did they see? It was obvious to them at that point that this was a homicide. The medical examiner arrived. That's her they're sitting on the left. Dr Valerie Rao waiting for her turn. When he got to the scene there are a lot of people on watching what was going on even then as she took it all in the crowd the yellow tape the young male body lying there on the grass. It was quite obvious to Dr Rau. This was a deliberate determined Kili. He had a gaping wound on his neck and the blood was losing are from there on on onto his neck. She looked closer. We cut across. His throat was deep and not quite smooth. As if it had been made perhaps by serrated knife when returned the body I could see that the grass adjacent where he Li was blood-soaked so much blood but not exactly where the medical examiner expected it to be? There was no blood on the front of his barley at our meeting. What had to be a reason She'd work on that but who was he. No idea at all just this slender young man with unseen is there wasn't a a lot known at all We just know that we had a deceased individual. We were trying to garner information sent officers around the neighborhood but the picture of the body. Did anyone know who he was as shocked afternoon? Deepended evening someone did know exactly who he was time all day long. I can't have finally failing far away in Kentucky over the rural hills down country roads was a mother named Linda Valencia. He was eating dinner with her sister. And fretting about her son Jesse Anton lesson for us it. It's so weird that he's not calling me and Jason White probably okay as a you know he just said you know Jesse after dinner. Lynda's sister dropped her off at her house and then it seem just a few minutes later. I saw her headlights coming back up the hill to my house so I went to the door and I opened it and I remember laughing. Alliance asked her if she had missed me so much but her sister wasn't smiling as it is it Jesse engages never answered in a remember just back and why and I just wanted to run but of course there was no running not from this. The police want to talk to her. They said they were sorry to inform me that my son had been hailed and I basically called him a liar and as it is not true. What's a person to say to do deny deny world collapsing around? Jesse's mother fainted in Columbia that June night. Crime Scene Techs busy themselves behind the yellow tape. Well more cops scoured the neighborhood. They noticed a nearby apartment door propped open and so they walked through it into a mystery that turned their world upside down when we return from the town. Jesse was six or seven years old. He told me Long. I'm not gonNA live to be very. I'll tell you where that thought came from and later a surprising friendship at which shock a city. Did it lead to murder? Say Mom guess his showed up on my doorstep when he was about seven years old. Jesse Valencia asked his mom to sit down and he said. I'm not gonNA live to be very old. He said I'm going to died a very young age. Tell you where that came from or why he thought he just sitting you he was GonNa Die. Young and now. The age of twenty three Jesse's awful prediction had come true. His half naked body found lying of lonely patch of grass so far from home. I never dreamed that he was going to die that way. Whatever happened to him? The investigators figured must have started here behind this open door down the block from the crime scene. It was the door to Jesse's apartment. Looked like Jesse may flung open fleeing his killer. We believe he was headed to a friend's house to get help and his assailant chased him. Caught up to him attacked him. Yes and showed no mercy details. Linda could not bear thinking about. She was just twenty one when she had Jesse to to be. Kinda grew up together at the time he was born. I took him everywhere with me. Just the two of them and then a step dad and two sisters and the family farm and parallel Kentucky. One Stop Light Town. Every store went into everybody knew him. everybody was hollering. Hey Jessie how are you free? And four years out and he would just talk your hand off about everything. Read about everything knew about everything. Linda's nickname for Jesse was college. Prep Kristen Avello Jesse on the school bus. In High School I think bright is a really create word to describe Jesse because of his intellectual brilliance but also he just was a real bright light. There are sort of kid who if it was raining with dancing or with Kristen scrawl graffiti under the town bridge. Jesse just had this real impure love of life. I can remember thinking like this guy is going to do something big like. He's going to do big things. Aaron Bailey Majeste Yuda school dads. They talked about movies and music. Jesse told her. He wanted to get out of the parallel one day. Try modeling after high school proud. He could do that but said Erin. He was always down to Earth. Always attentive taken me to sing for them. All Maria was his favorite and Do that there were times. He will call me like at night in the middle of night and be like what you're saying and I'm like Oh it's one thirty in the morning but she didn't mind not really back then. She was a little bit in love with Jesse even though she knew she wasn't his type. Jesse was gay and proud of it. He loved to he wanted to love. And that's a brave way to be in life. He was the type of boy that would tell you exactly what he thought back and Linda certainly thought he was brave. When Jesse packed up the modeling and decided to go to college. I in his family to go. He ended up at the University of Missouri which seemed as far away from Perryville as could be. I was happy and excited that he wanted to do there. But I did not want him to go out of state and I just kept emphasizing to him that it was not going to be a good thing For us to be so far apart. No now the worst of her premonitions come true. That lovely sound of hers. That promise horribly snuffed out I mean he was how laugh and just couldn't believe that he was gone. Can you remember what what was it like for you? It was just dread like I just wanted. Whoever did this? I wanted like them to immediately be apprehended like it just was like this feeling of urgency. Yeah of panic but this one wasn't good quick or easy. Alot cause of death was perfectly obvious. The medical examiner the gaping knife wound in his neck. But other things were harder to explain. You should eat with knife injuries. One tends to get defense ones on the hands so you get a knife injuries. On the hands but Jesse's heads WERE UNMARKED. Which made me wonder? Maybe Jesse hadn't been conscious but his throat was cut. They found him on his back if he was that way when they killer cut him. It explained the lack of blood on his body. A few is standing than the blood would run down the front of him or the back of him and if he walked walked after he sustained the injury then they would be blood on the bottom of his feet. There was none of this. There were still one puzzling thing. A pattern of angry bruises across Jesse's chest and back and under his jaw. We had to think of all the possibilities of how this came about so she sent his fingernail clippings and blue shorts after the lab for testing and waited and the detectives Jesse was Was kind of a free spirit from what I from what I understand it. No you're victim. Investigators like to say so they started digging especially into Jesse's life and Columbia and what they discovered was not so much a long list of enemies but rather a long list of lovers coming up some guy called in and said the this kid was inconsolably tears in the night and persons of interest in the light of day. Ed Bradley admitted bed him. And Jesse had had sex the day before the body was found. Eric said something to the effect of I wouldn't care if he was dead. When dateline continues saw the murder of Jesse Valencia sent a nasty jolt of anxiety around Columbia Missouri. Everyone was just so shaken. Berry Bumgarner local college professor in crime novelist was like a lot of people here full of questions. There were several articles about. Did this happen in broad daylight. Why didn't anyone see anything? And people wanted answers. So the Columbia. Police Department worked with all deliberate speed on. The few leads. Could find according to Jesse's phone records. The last call it made was around three fifteen in the morning. His neighbor seen here on. Nbc Affiliate K. O. M. You said not long. After that he heard arguing coming from Jesse's department just bump and just like a somebody stumbling and and kind of bumping into the wall like a stop. Police found another witness. Who told them he'd seen something odd during the night? A young man walking barefoot near the crime scene was he a killer. They were looking for about a block or so away maybe to From the victim's house some guy called in and said the. This kid was crying inconsolably but who was he wasn't allowed to go on. So investigators started tracking down. Jesse's friends trying to piece together a portrait of his life in Colombia. He was a junior at Mizzou books on history piled up around his apartment. They had a lot of friends. You talked to a lot of them. Talk to a lot of them. You know He was he he liked to party like like almost every other college student. Jesse loved to dance and one of his favorite places with local nightclub. Where just a few days? Before he died he met someone new on the dance floor. An aspiring chef named Ed. Police asked Ed to come down to the station. He readily admitted that him and Jesse had had Sex the day before the body was found and Jesse's friends said they saw Jesse and leave a party together. Just a few hours before Jesse was killed so detective short watched very closely in the police interrogation room. When he swore he'd left Jesse alive and well on the street outside the party before heading on home. Ed said his roommate had seen them coming in. What did you think about him? He was an emotional. Mess is how I would describe him constantly. Crying very upset very scared the fear of why am I here? Did he have something to hide? It was a knife that killed Jesse. Ed was a chef. He owned a whole bag a very sharp knives. But it was Ed's roommate man called Eric. Thurston who really got investigators attention. Eric had his own shady past a rap sheet for drug possession a stealing and fighting words about the murder. Eric Person In his interview actually said at one point I could kill somebody but I but I have too much faith in humanity or something to that effect when he talked to police. Eric didn't even try to hide his dislike for Jesse he said something to the effect of. I wouldn't care if he was dead or I don't care if he's dead talking about Jesse. Why would he say that to the police? Even more suspicious Eric told them feed left at home that night to go out on a date that would have been around the time. Jesse was killed. So investigators searched the men's home took DNA samples and waited. There was this other kid named Zev except find another lead. Zev A rabbi's son. Just nineteen Jesse's friends said he called Sev- his boy toy. Police asked him to come down to the station. Here was very quiet very low key and he did not appear to be a violent person at all. Yeah not that not that. That can't be hit. Zev told him he wasn't even gay. He and Jesse were just friends not lovers or anything so he had no reason to be jealous or angry and anyway said he was at home all night. He said he got up the next morning. Have Breakfast with his parents. We lived in his parents house. His Parents House. Yeah the only the only one of the questions posed to him was. Can you get out of the House without your parents scene? And he said. Yeah I can phone records showed. The Zev tried to call Jesse several times that night and failed voice stress test in the beginning. He might be lying about something. Not Admissible in court. Mind you but certainly curious at this point just a few days into the investigation. Detectives had three persons of interest. But it didn't feel like they were any closer to solving the murder so every day we would have what's called a we. We nicknamed it the roundtable. All the detectives would sit down and discuss the leads. They had followed the day before where. We're going what we need to do. Sometimes those roundtables get a little heated. You know when you end up working twenty hours a day and taking three hour naps days in a row. People's people get a little edgy. Bus hundred miles away from the hurly burly of the police investigation way off and Saint Louis suddenly dawned. On a friend of Jesse's he had a clue for the police something that might actually help crack the case Jesse Knight chatted to three times a week. At least Patrick Rogers at met Jesse before he went to college they bonded over indie bands. Politics mostly chatted online. Which allowed you to keep a record of these chats right yes. I realized that I have these chat logs and that the chat logs say everything. It's time stamped my new. It was all right there. What was all right there? Well Jesse had revealed a secret. A secret lover. He had not revealed the name but this was something bigger than a name. How would the Columbia Police Department react? Once they heard the Jesse secret lover was one of their own. Coming up. Jesse's late night visitor. He was excited about it excited. I mean the guy was coming by on duty Linda Valencia was quite familiar with all of her son Jesse's relationships. She was rare among mothers. She knew things intimate things that mothers don't often get to hear Jesse told her. Everything talked about anything and everything. Jesse sometimes Jesse. We talked to me about things. I didn't WANNA talk about A. He had no filter on his mouth when he was talking to me so Linda had her own ideas about who police should be talking to. And it wasn't the aspiring chef. Or He's roommate or the rabbis detective. Call me on the phone. She was asking me if I knew of anybody that had any against JC. And I told her yes I do and I said he's a cop. Linda said she didn't know the officer's name but she told the detective that two months before the murder. She got a call at two o'clock in the morning Jesse was on the other end excited. He said Momma. I've been arrested and I said. Oh my God and he said well I was at a party and he got who noisy and the cops came. Jesse outspoken as always protested. Didn't go over well and he told me if I open my mouth again he was going to arrest me and said do what you gotta do. And he arrested me at. The police station said Jesse. The officer wrote a ticket. Toluene have to appear in court later and then released him all of which would have made for a memorable story but then few are later Jesse called into again any strong as he showed up on my doorstep and I just said WHO and he said that cop they arrested me last night and I said so what's going on it was the beginning of Jesse. Didn't know what exactly it was personal intimate and secret sort of relationship. You instant message one of your best friends about. In all the time he spoke with me he wouldn't say his name he only referred to him as Columbia's finest. He was excited about it excited he was. I mean the guy was coming by on duty. He was stop off. They would have sex and then they'd go back to work. Yeah and Jesse found all that exciting and I'm seeing this as a bunch of red flags this Oh yes Linda. She saw those two yes he kept talking about how when I asked him where he lives. He kinda and dances around it or if I ask him anything about family or anything. He said he's constantly wants to talk about my personal life but he never wants to talk about. He is said Jesse discovered. Why why his secret? Policeman lover wouldn't reveal anything about his own life. He was married. He said he's married. He is a child and it's wrong and he said I'M NOT GONNA I'm not gonNA save anymore. I just wanting to stay away. Yeah he tried to cut it off then he wouldn't be party to someone cheating and I remember his exact words to me were. I'm not going to be someone's other woman. And he was mad and he had every right to be mad at Patrick had proof. Jesse felt that way. It was all their and their online chats. Patrick printed them out brought them to the Columbia police headquarters. What was their first reaction when you said? I think this is a cop. They didn't seem surprised it. I would have expected a bigger reaction. That's because just a couple of hours. After their dentist by Jesse's body before they talked to Patrick Orlando Police. Had Gotten an anonymous tip about the affair head? You ever investigated a fellow cop before not for homicide. No remember the first came into your head when you realize I'm GonNa have to do that. I thought was was. We need to get this right. That's the second thought the I thought. Oh my God it's GonNa look bad coming. A witness. Searching photos for persons of interest has an unexpected close encounter. I don't need to look at those pictures. I passed in the hallway when you walked me over here when dateline continues her on the brow of a hill on the family farm Linda violence. You've visits her. Son visits the memories still so very raw of the bright spark. He was in her life of the day. They told her he was dead of the day of his funeral the day they put him in the ground here. I said they're just tear it onto the casket handle and I wouldn't turn at Lowe's and there were so many people that guy I mean. Look how many papers love Jesse and I had a letter than our program with a picture and I asked when I can just put that in the ground with him and she said of course and so. My hills were sinking into the mud. And I couldn't stand up and I was watching one of the most important people in my life be covered up with dirt and she sang his favorite song for him. Oh and how do you measure a loss like this the gap in tears in the lives of people and in the history of things that might have been had he been around in Columbia Missouri? Detective Short was measuring not loss but an explosive new lead. A Phantom Carp who was he then he got word that one of Jesse's college lovers guy named Andy at seen Jesse with the mystery cop up close. They were at Jesse's apartment. He says they're in bed together and he hears a knock at the door. Guy Walks inputs flashlight on him. He said when he saw the flashlight. Komo and you can see it was a police officer. And then he attempted to joy to have sex to participate with. Andy and Andy was like now. I don't WanNa part of this. According to Andy Jesse and the officer had sex anyway and when it was over the COP had a warning. He looked at both of them. And says you don't talk about this. Don't tell anyone and he left. Shirley detector short figure this Andy would be able to identify the officer. So the detective in his partner brought Andy into the precinct and showed him a book of photos. The entire Columbia Police Department but this was weird pretty obvious. He's not really looking at the pictures he just. Kinda thumbed through them and it's pretty apparent to me that he was nervous about me being in the interview room so I just got up. Walked out leaving Andy Alone with the detectives female partner. Calix pitchers again. She says you really not look at him he goes. I don't need to look at those pictures. I passed him in the hallway when you walked me over here when she came out of that room which you say she looked into is. You're not gonNA believe this. It's Steve Radio's Stephen. Rio's police officer two and a half years on the force up and comer active in several police charities with what looked like an exemplary record that of course Rios was married. His wife had given birth to a baby boy just four months before detective short. Check Jesse's arrest report and yes it was Stephen. Rio suit took him in an issue. The ticket that wasn't all Stephen Help Guard Jesse's murder scene when he got to the police department the afternoon when the body had been found. He's all one of the sergeants right and Jesse's name down and he says hey. I know that guy arrested him about a month or so ago. Well the sergeant told him go down there. Identify the body So after identifying the body he actually volunteered according to the supervisor to guard the crime scene and he would have known he shouldn't be all sure just having the relationship alone with him he should have never been involved in the case. Didn't mean to kill them. And that's correct. Stephen Rios joined the list of people. Police wanted to take a hard look at. Nobody was ruled out. And you were preparing the background before you actually brought him. Try to get as much information as we can to confront him with what we knew. Detective short figured he'd get a couple of days to gather information. Before Rio Scott Wind. He was a person of interest in a murder investigation but for the first of many times. Things didn't quite work out as expected coming up. Stephen Rios denies an affair. When I can find him that there was a relationship. He what sex you already knew. No Salon and his wife has a visitor an officer of the law Uh Shoving. His house searched by other officers. The law it was alarming for sure. It was three days after the murder of Jesse Valencia. Detective John Short just found out that the murdered man secret lover was an ambitious married up and coming cop named Stephen Reels Joe. Next thought the hope that this was just an affair that the cop was not the killer. I'm wasn't personal friends with him. I was a CO worker. Knew he was? Nobody wants a bad car. Nobody wants a bad cop. That's perfect statement but just as detective short was trying to figure that out who walked in the door. Stephen Rios himself. He just shows up. Says I need to talk to you. Guys Steven said he'd heard rumors of police officer was involved so he'd come to clear things up said he wants arrested. Jesse but that's all there was to it when I confront him. That there was a relationship he said what sex and I said yeah and he. He denied it already knew that was did. I confronted him with that lie. He BREAKS DOWN AND CRIES SAYS. Yeah but only once. That was a lie in the problems that I was having at. That point personally was okay. Is he upset in crime because we've just alad him as having a homosexual relationship and he's married and got a child or they lying because he did this. Stephen told the detective plenty witnesses. You could prove. He wasn't anywhere near Jesse the night he was murdered. Where was he clocked in at six PM? That evening it was a busy shift. He made a traffic stop. That's another dash cam video. Then helped out on a shooting. Investigation across town said he finished a little after three. A M and join some other officers for beer up on the roof of the station then went back inside to go to the bathroom. His entry into the building prior to his departure was at four thirty seven. Am so that's the only thing that we can confirm without a doubt. That's solid evidence. Obviously but Stephen told detective short. He didn't leave just then but instead went back up to the roof for a few minutes and drove out finally around five. Am and then went straight home. Talk to my wife Libby. He said so they did. They don't announce these things. Of course they just knock on the door and there was libby surprised. Imagine most people in officer shows up at your house. You're immediately on pretty high alert. As as one would be stephen had already told libby someone he'd arrested had been murdered but as for the rest of the affair the fact he was being questioned as a person of interest in murder. She didn't know a thing and the cop at the door said nothing about any of that instead she reassured and said anyone that had contact with the victim. We're talking to all of their spouses. No big deal thought for a minute then told the officer that Grayson. Her former. The baby started crying early. That morning woke her up. I remember five fifteen I remember. I remember looking at the clock. I remember five fifteen semi head. He didn't know of course that no idea. Her groggy. Memory would be poked and prodded farms. How crucially important. Those precise minutes would turn out to be. No she told the officer that anywhere between five and ten minutes after waking up. She was in the kitchen warming up a bottle for the baby when her husband walked in. We made eye contact. I think I said something like a long night. And he said Yeah and he immediately walked Grayson's room and picked him up and he handed off Grayson and I started feeding him so she told the story. The cop left she expected Stephen would come home then but he didn't instead. More cop showed up to search the house. An officer of the law is having his search by other officers of the law. It was alarming for sure she wanted was her husband. Murder suspect and searched the houses if he was the even examined the shower drain looking. For what other evidence of murder. But the drain didn't come up with anything no didn't from a crime scene. No blood no no no nothing. No BLOOD IN HIS CAR. No evidence on his clothes nothing. No sign of a struggle realism's body that because you looked at it they they. They took pictures and everything was no no no injuries nor could they find any possible murder weapon in his possession or in his house. They administered voice stress tests. Same one that given the rabbi's son Steven passed and he said you know. They looked at everything. They've cleared me as a suspect. I'm good so I think even though I was alarmed I thought Gosh it was a bad day. But it's but it's done. Yeah I mean I know idea it was coming. No she did not coming. How could things get any worse? They do? My sister-in-law ran out of the House and she said saves on the phone and he's got a gun and police learn of a possible motive for Jesse's murder he said distinctly. I'm going to out him to the police. Chief and later libby offers a new detail. Did you feel like you're being called a liar? When you're on the stand certainly think I was when dateline continues? If you've been afraid to color your hair at home I get it. But that's why I want to tell you about Madison Reed hair-color it's quick. It's convenient and it's foolproof. Madison Reed is salon-quality color. That's formulated with ingredients. Actually Nourish your hair. Instead of strands that feel stripped or dry. Madison Reed Color. Leaves your hair looking and feeling fresh. That's because it's infused with things like Argon Oil and Carrington. 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After he told his wife Libby he'd been cleared as a murder suspect. His own police chief telling reporters about his personal relationship with victim. Jesse Valencia. I comb with Libby. Stephen finally came clean. I think his exact words were something like what was in the paper. He said it's true. Do you remember what you said in reaction to? I don't think I said much. I think I was just pretty quiet. An shock about it. She was just twenty one years old. She just had their baby and then an instant it dawned on her. Everybody knows you know. We didn't get to handle that. The way a normal married couple will get to handle infidelity. Stephen took a temporary leave of absence. Four days after the murder he told police he was going to visit his father Virginia. They gave him permission to go but to his surprise made it clear he wasn't out of the woods yet he was certainly a little agitated and I think it was then that he really knew they were still looking at him was still going on So he left and I went to the grocery store and when I came home my sister-in-law out of the house. And she said. Steve Steve's on the phone he's got a gun. You didn't go to Virginia. You went to a Walmart near the airport. In Kansas City. Bought himself shotgun threatening to kill himself and I just ran in the house and grabbed the phone and said you know. Fight this this is your son. Need to fight this. This is this is crazy. Becomes with that panic panics. Right word just sadness. Livy filled helpless less than twenty four hours earlier. Her life was full of promise. Now was it just gone? She jopstone floor which I've never seen as my children do and you know she's hysterical. Levy's parents Suzanna. John were there when Stephen Call and we had called the police department on the other line and so they knew what was going on so then they arrived and they took over talking to him. Beliefs managed to talk some sense into Stephen persuaded him to drive back to Susanna John's house. Though he still had that gun which is why as cops waited in the driveway. They were armed and ready. Just in case to have police officers in your front yard with guns drawn is not a part of our life so it was all pretty traumatic and pretty overwhelmed. Were in the back of the house waiting to hear gun fire. But instead the police led Stephen into the living room and into John Suzanne's arms and we gave him a hug. He's he's part of our family and that's in until that changes that's what you do. The respite was short lived. Investigators had talked to the cops Stephen the joint for a beer on the roof night of the murder and they said Stephen left the building earlier than the five. Am Time he claimed. Police hold him back to the station. Minutes mattered a lot. Now as far as what time we got home initially. He said he got home around five. Twenty five thirty. That's what Libya told the police to so detectives wanted. Did Stephen have time to stop off at Jesse's department before he got home we wonder that same thing all right so we're leaving the station. I we drove from police headquarters to Jesse's house coming up here left now this trip from the police station with some traffic mind. You has taken us just over four minutes. Then from Jesse's House to Stephen Libby Song we kept it under the speed limit stopped at some lights along the way to. There's a rose house our total drive time just under fifteen minutes which leaves twenty twenty five minutes for whatever may or may not have happened. Twenty twenty five minutes for Stephen to Confront Jesse than chase maybe as far as two hundred yards choke and subdue him cut his throat rush back to his car and drive home your content that he had enough time to go and commit this offence if he got home at five thirty. Yeah I do probably twenty five sure. Wasn't he tattered? The time guest the harder it would be to pull it off. That's for sure I don't deny that. But even if he could do it why would he do it well? Maybe the answer was on those online messages between Jesse and Patrick. Rogers he said distinctly. I'm going to out him to the police chief and if Stephen knew that what would he do to stop it? Given his suicide threat he was taken to a mental health center for observation but went doctors went to check on him. He was gone a quick manhunt and there. He was at the top of a nearby parking garage as they closed in. Stephen Rios moved to the Ledge and as television cameras were trained on it. A police negotiator talked him down. I just thought his behavior just reeked of guilt. To be honest with you and it was just an innocent man. Doesn't act like that. Not In my opinion one of the common allegations people will throw it Homicide detectives is that they got tunnel vision. You know they as soon as that man got up on that roof and threatened to kill himself after that. They just didn't think about any other possibility that was done. That's not true you know. We have ignored the rest leads from there on out and said we got our guy but you didn't know never. In fact detective shorts. His boss made sure to remind the investigative team that Steven was just one suspect among many he used to tell us everyday. Don't don't put on your blinders. Even if this guy looks like this is the person we got a seal clear everybody else or not like Ed. The aspiring chef police interrogated him several times. Found no motive gun besides kind of felt for the guy to be honest with you a little bit. 'cause he just wasn't invoke emotionally strong person at all. Was that enough to clear at what about his. Alibi is tough guy. Roommate Eric. Gun Out that night. Remember around the time of the murder so we found the individuals that he had gone to and they they confirmed that during that entire timeframe we could account for his for his whereabouts. What about Zev the son of Colombia's highly respected Rabbi Zev who denied? He was Jesse's lover but failed. The Voice Stress Test Police wondered. Was He the person the eyewitness unseen crying near? Jesse's house so you took this kid's picture and showed it to the apparent eyewitness What did that person say? I think he said that he wasn't sure. But a chance that I find it hard to believe to me. It came down to motive that I didn't. I couldn't see where there'd be motive on his behalf to do anything a full week into the investigation. Police did not have enough evidence to arrest anyone for the murder of Jesse Valencia but that changed when detective short gut. The DNA results from Jesse's body coming. I packed up. His things told our house. Did all the things that you would do if somebody if somebody dies. A wife moves on still convinced of her husband's innocence. He wasn't covered in blood. There wasn't anything in our house. There wasn't anything in his vehicle. It does not make sense to me One month after Jesse. Valencia's murder Stephen Rios was again being held at a Secure Mental Health Facility. Libby what to see him now again but it was over for them and she knew it. I packed up his things sold. Our House sold his vehicle. Did all the things that you would do if somebody if somebody dies because it was as if as if the person that I knew was gone and then detective short gut the DNA results remember. The medical examiner sent Jesse's fingernail clippings lab and under one of them. There it was just a miniscule speck of it but unmistakable Stevens. Dna problem was wasn't the only DNA the lab found Ed's DNA was under that same fingernail. Do we were not surprised to find it. In McDevitt DNA. Ed Readily admitted that there were sexual contact between him. And Jesse Steve said he had not had any contact nor had he seen this individual since like the twenty eighth or the twenty ninth of the prior month. So we're talking full week at least yeah for police. The DNA results settled it. They charge Stephen Rios with the first degree. Murder of Jesse Valencia. And ten months later he stood in the Columbia courtroom not in uniform but in hand costs a trial lawyer should read the classics dose Tolstoy because they're good trial lawyer is a master storyteller so it didn't hurt that the prosecutor brought in from a neighboring county to avoid any with partiality just happened to be an novelist on the side is name. Morley swingle in aid to make sure that everyone of those jurors is confident in their soul that this guy has proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Of course swingle told the jury about that dot of DNA under Jesse's fingernail but there was more several of Stevens. Hairs were found on Jesse's chest. The expert said that every hair on Jesse's chest that had a route they had tested. They all came back then. Stephen Rios DNA. Yes the kind of Herod was wasn't the sort that tends to just fall out. They were limb. Hairs. L. A. M B Harris from your arm and here. The prosecutor went out on a limb argued. Stephen Muster rubbed off those hairs when a used a common police chokehold called the unilateral neck restraint. That is how Stephen Render Jesse unconscious. Said Morty swingle before killing him about police defensive tactics instructor for thirty and I was the academy instructor that Steven Rales went through. I'M GONNA move in and get underneath his armpit. This is Todd Burke. The prosecutor called him to the stand. Demonstrate the chokehold to the jury we asked him and detective short do the same for us gave underneath his arm on this side. I've got him locked up on this side and then I'm GonNa Push my head into the back of his head and basically shut down most of the blood supply in and out of his head and remember the bruises. The medical examiner found on. Jesse's chest back if this was not done properly. Or He didn't get a grip or Jesse was able to fight his way out of it. The first thing that people do is try to shove the person back into the whole more even striking this way. And that's where the bruising was so then he goes down on his back throats cut at that point. That's that is the theory. Yes but cut his throat with what a knife just like. This said the prosecutor a clip bon knife with partly serrated edge which just happened to be quite popular with cops. The prosecutor said Stephen Lied when he claimed he never owned one. Multiple officers had seen him with a clip knife. And I put several of them understand. Why you such a knife on his young lover. The prosecution called to the stand. One of Jesse's close friends and she told the same story Jesse's online buddy. Patrick Rogers did I believe at this. Police officer I've been having an affair with must be a married man and the next time comes over. I'm going to confront him about it. And the front testified out him to the police chief there it was at Brussels. Swingle a motive to kill Jesse confronted him an Rios chased him and caught him choked him and his consciousness and cut his throat and then Hurried home and got rid of the knife. Somewhere along the way but prosecutors swingle did not persuade libby because she said she saw Stephen with her own eyes when he came home walked calmly through their front door. And so what? She was asked to take the stand and Stevens defense she did. I've seen him upset before Where he was clearly anxious You know we're agitated. He was none of those things. He wasn't covered in blood. I know that there wasn't anything in our house. There wasn't anything in his vehicle and I just do not understand how somebody could in that timeframe not only commit the crime but clean up after themselves not leave a trace behind come home to their wife like everything was normal. It does not make sense to me. After Libby testified Stephen did too. He was emotional. Impassioned swore he didn't own the kind of knife that kill Jesse never choked anyone and time discrepancy or not. He simply drove straight home. That night Jesse's mother. Linda didn't buy it as staring at the prosecutor and trying to looking men needs or he's questions but then he averts his eyes and my daddy always told me that. If somebody can't look you in until you something then they're lined. It was up to the jury. Now who would they believe coming up a verdict? There was never a doubt in my mind. There are a lot of people that cheap doesn't make him a murderer when dateline continues on the third floor of the Boone County courthouse. Jurors were holed up deliberating. The fate of disgraced COP. Stephen Rios hours past Linda and be waited on opposite sides of the courtroom. There are a lot of people that cheat every day unfortunately but doesn't make him a murderer on unionism wouldn't kill him and There was never a doubt in my mind nine hours later. The jury agreed with Linda. Stephen was convicted of first degree. Murder and sentenced to life without parole. Libby was devastated. The jury came back and said guilty. What was that like for you? There's another word for it but Shaq and that was when local crime novelists Berry Bumgarner got a call from a friend of the police force. She kept saying you know. You really ought to look into this this. You can't make this stuff up. I'm you just can't make this up so or on a whim than anything berry. Who read about the trial and the local paper decided to send Stephen Rios a letter? See if he'd give her an interview and he said yes. So I was having these visions of what justice for Jessie? I'm going to interview Rios and get Rios to confess to me. But he didn't anything bought in fact what Stephen said persuaded buried to start all over to investigate the facts of the case. Ourself to what what is of this year. What do we got here? This is a binder of interviews which I also have on recorders. Police reports police reports hurts police reports. Something like four hundred interviews. A wealth of information about Jesse about Stephen to the jury mostly never got to see and somewhere in all that said berry she saw pattern in the lovers liaisons. She said Stephen would usually show up Jesse's during his shift sometime after midnight. Never as late as the time prosecutors said he did on the night of the murder. Why would he go up on the parking garage and have a couple of beers and wait until four forty five? Am when he had never gone over there and he had. No Jesse was asleep and his wife's at home waiting for him and remember how Jesse talked about confronting. Stephen said he'd exposing some of Jesse's friends don't bury. He enjoyed shocking people. A bit and those stories he told about confronting Stephen about outing into the police. Chief could have been just that stories which Moore's at Berry. Despite what Jesse had told his friends she could find nothing. No voicemail no texts no phone call even to prove the men talk that week at all so it wasn't like there was a phone. Call this at. Hey you better get over here make right with us for. I'm going to out you. There wasn't any of that. So for me the motive and opportunity. It's just it's just missing. And when she talked to the jurors it did not reassure her about their verdict. Several of the jurors five different jurors said. Well I just couldn't wrap my head around if not rios than who weren't the police right. Though when they said you know nobody else had a motive I would venture to say the young man with a rabbi father. Who didn't know his son was gay. I thank you. Maybe had a similar motive for him. Zev The rabbis Senate always denied being gay. Let alone sleeping with Jesse. But Berry said Jesse's friends told her he joked about outings to his dad. So was that just Joe. Berry wanted observed might have been that unidentified. Young man spotted crying in the street middle of the night. The eyewitness shown a photograph of Zev. And I think that's the guy. He is shown a high school yearbook picture as what they showed him. He did not look like the same young man. I saw his picture from when he was nineteen from when he was in high school and he looked nothing like that picture. I asked her. How many times have you interviewed Stephen? More than a hundred. She said possible. You've spoken to him too much. That you see the world through his is maybe more than is comfortable. I don't think so. Do you think he's innocent? I don't think he should have been convicted. You will go to innocence. I don't think he did it. I don't I don't think he had time your opinion after all an amazing thing happened two years after Stevens conviction and appellate court ruled that the jury should not have been allowed to hear testimony from Jesse's friend about what he had told her. The business about outing Stephen. That said the appeals court was hearsay. Didn't Count Stephen. Riaz would get a brand new trial. Did you think they're going to release them? Blood him go. I didn't know what they were going to do. I had so many people. Tell me. Then he'll get out of it because he's a cop he's going to get out of it and I said not. As long as I live he will not coming in here for less. Lavish was Stephen Rio on trial for murder or morality. The prosecution in this case was based around several ninety. One of them was the fact. That Rios lied lied and lied and lied about sex sex and sex. There was a chill in the air. And a hint of some sacred thing unspoken. The day we climbed up from the hollow to Jesse's hill the place where he is buried on the family farm. What did this area mean to Jesse this hill in Bonn? This was the he would walk out the path from our house. Come out here and climb over the fence and then go over ten. My Mom and dad's which is our that it was the place. Linda came to find her courage for the second trial of Stephen Rios. He was gonNA need. I Stephen Real's brand new defense attorney a man not interested in winning any prizes for sensitivity his name Gillis Leonard I like to think of SORTA like Jimmy Stewart. And then that'd be of emerges the good old down-home lawyer that just likes to drink now and then and dislikes to do well five people. The defense attorney face no big surprises the prosecutor's case was mostly a replay of the trial. Three years before ambitious cop desperate to keep his secret kills gay lover here. Science the prosecutor promise the jury would prove it cools put the murderer would be DNA. Jesse's fingernail or hairs Jesse's chest and the crime lab at unmasked who? That murderer was the profiles from the three hares consistent with each other. As well as with the profile from Stephen Rios. But this time around the prosecutor's case was hobbled by that appellate court ruling this time. The jury would not get to hear what Jesse told his friends about his plans to expose Stephen. And that was the motive I believe and so the jury didn't get to hear that the second time around still. The prosecutor drove home. The essentials a time line that fit the murder and the behavior of a guilty man that threat of suicide and all those lies. The prosecution in this case was based around. Several one of them was in fact. That Rios lied lied and lied and lied about sex sex and sex instead of hiding from the live Leonard said so what he was a married man with a small baby at home having an affair with a young boy well young man hence Oh yes your first inclination is line. That doesn't make you a murder shoe. Why one of the investigating officer said when he got up on that rooftop He was GONNA kill himself. Yes I knew then four sure he was the killer apparently guide the Holy Ghost Jesus Christ was in a police uniform and was able to look into Stevens heart and no. That's why he was jumping off the defense attorney. Hope that it's the jury could look past Stevens lies and they'd begin to see holes in the prosecution's evidence like the timeline. Police worked out sheer fantasy. Said the defense. Look at all that he would have had to accomplish. He would add to chase this boy down. I don't know whether you've been out to the senior I have but it's not a short little cross the street. Yeah go up over. He had this quote. Sadoun with what I used to refer to as a secret. Ninja chokehold. Execute THEM. Get rid of the clothes. Clean up the defense asked the jury to do was think of the prosecution's theories as something. Like a work of speculative fiction. Consider the neighbor said Leonard kind of bumping into the neighbor who said he heard a commotion. Jesse's apartment telling author that anytime between three thirty I gave them a guesstimate and that was that was what I told them at the time between three thirty four thirty. Am the defense pointed out. At least four people saw Stephen Drinking Beer on the police station roof gathering that broke up around dawn. According to this detected I remember making a comment about daybreak thing in the far northeast sky. I believe the sky starting to starting to lighten up but hey the moments when the defense got to question. The medical examiner. She told him the crime happened. Before daybreak. Believe that that the sun and Ms Lindsey and it is it was dark. That's correct if that was true and Steven was on the roof until dawn. Would that mean? He didn't kill Jesse. Just as fantastical said Leonard was the prosecution's theory of how Stephen would have killed. Jesse showed the jury that Dash Cam video from the traffic stop. Stephen made the night of the murder. Maybe hard to see. The defense attorney said it showed. There was no knife on Stevens belt. In fact Stephen said he never owned serrated clip knife as for what he called the secret. Ninja chokehold in about three to seven seconds taught burke at demonstrated that chokehold for the jury in the courtroom on the prosecutor. Why Use Yourself? Well where could be more dramatic than the brass yours choked unconscious right in front of the jury but Defense Attorney? Leonard had his own dramatic demonstration and grabbed his arm. He wanted the jury to see Jesse would have been able to fight back to scratch whoever was attacking him. Do that and not Li scratched out. Leave some more skin under the fingernails. Not leave some kind of mark again. There were no marks on Stephen None. Of course it'd be a bit of Stevens. Dna under Jesse's fingernails argued Leonard. They'd had sex a week earlier. Sure but maybe DNA was left over from that encounter. Sex could explain. The hairs on Jesse's chest to the crime lab at found several. Here's belonging to Stephen on Jesse's comforter. His bed linens were days all so he could have easily gotten those hairs rolling around in the bed that him Stephen and rolled around in a few days from four and there was one final piece of scientific evidence that offense wanted the jury to consider remember. Steven was not the only person who's DNA was under gestures. Fingernail that aspiring chef. Ed McDevitt one of the last people would seem Jesse alive his DNA was there too and here was a central theme of the defense. Police may have gotten them wrong and coming up. Libby takes the stand and adds an intriguing. Twist to her testimony. I know that that clock was set fast. I know that when dateline continues it had been harder than the date expected to sit through another trial. She hated listening to the lawyer. Score points over her son's most intimate secrets his lovers even his bedsheets at laugh at some of it and then I would get mad because I did feel like this. He was on trial. And you can't do anything can't say defense attorney Gillis aggressively poked holes in the prosecution's case. He argued Stephen was the victim of a witch-hunt. I firmly believe that the Columbia Police Department once they focused on Steven didn't even bother to go anywhere else. Of course. The detectives took issue with that. Remember their vowed to guard against tunnel vision. Well that was just spin said Leonard. It was obvious from the way investigators had handled their search of ED MCDEVITT DEPARTMENT. Jesse's new lover the wannabe chef. Those her I didn't and yet at himself said he kept the knives in his bedroom in plain sight. Leonard called that. Half-hearted sloppy detective work really sloppy according to the defense was investigators failure to follow up on. What Ed's Roommate Eric? Thurston had told them. Did you all very yes remember? Eric was the one who'd given ed his alibi. Said he'd seen them come home. Nonsense said the defense attorney. How could he? Eric had been out on a date at the time. Misery that come home I either home. I don't know at this point. I'm not sure at this point. I'm not I'm not going to give you one way or the other. I'm sorry the jury got to hear from Ed himself when the prosecutor called him to the stand. If I didn't put him on then he'd be the big phantom that the defense was trying to make sound so terrible. There is no video that's testimony. But he told the jury he had never been violent toward. Jesse or anyone else so here comes this phantom. The Phantom turns out to be a kind of a shy Soft strack very very clean cut. Shy young man who was devastated. Ed did not agree to an on camera interview but he told us he did not kill Jesse. He had nothing to do with it and he grieves for him to this day but of course there was someone else. Investigators had considered a person of interest. Wasn't there Zev the rabbi son his vehicle may or may not have been seen in the area. Jesse's friends told me that he was breaking up with them. And this was this Kid's first gay love affair and he was deeply hurt. The defense attorney grilled about his relationship with Jesse Earth lifestyle experience. You mean my first gay friend no payments you gave relationship. No that's not true. I never had a gay relationship. Did Not deny trying to called Jesse night of his death. All follow one. Yes you try to ensure bed yes you really drive over are about three. In the nineteen ninety six green you know drier side and walk around his are no. I didn't do Sev- denied at all. We lived in his parent's basement. At if you've taken that car out in the middle of the night the garage door would have gone up. They would have heard it and you know how would we know if they heard? It has got to come in and go. Oh Hey on the morning of the murder. Our Son who was having an affair with them. We heard the garage door. Go UP IN THE CAR. Leave on the witness stand zooms. Mother was adamant she swore them never left the house at all night. Guess about one. Thirty is always that mystery man Defense Detective John. Short listen to the defense attorney. Call HIS INVESTIGATION. Sloppy incompetent blinkered. Real story he said was far from that. This case file turn out to be almost thirteen hundred pages. We interviewed a lot of people. Every lead was followed up on and completed nothing and no information or evidence. Let anybody else but what would the jury believe? The defense attorney had one more ace up his sleeve libby by this time libby was Steven's ex wife. He was in a new relationship. She wasn't happy to be back in court. I was angry about it. I remember fighting with my parents about it and just being I was I wanted to move on. She told her familiar story. Waking up at five fifteen. Am to baby. Grayson's cry seeing. Her husband walked through the door without a scratch. Five twenty or so then. She volunteered a detail. She told others for years but did not bring up the first trial. I know that that clock was set fast. I know that Libby testified that Stephen must've arrived home even sooner and she I told police you set your clock fast right so you wouldn't be late for work Absolutely how fast it was. I would say it was probably seven minutes fast. Usually which has the defensemen Steven got home even earlier than police thought and had even less time to commit the murder prosecutor. Morley swingle skeptical. Didn't exactly cues Libya of lying but close. I just wanted to point out. What her what her previous statement had been so the jury would see that well. She's trying to shorten that time frame a little bit. Do you feel like you're being called a liar when you're on the stat. Oh I certainly think I was for me. It was important to set that record straight. Because you believe it to be true. I one hundred percent. Believe it to be trick. You don't think it's your memory is adjust now. Bibi's revised timeline attorney Leonard's attack on the police investigation Linda Valencia. Grieving mother hated it. Stephen Rios ones convicted cop saw possibilities and the jury went out and closed the door coming to families await the verdict and Stephen Rios talks. People think some people think I am not. What will the jury thing Liberate Stephen Rios watched the twelve strangers. Who would be deciding his fate file out of the courtroom jurors who would not hurt his story not from him anyway. You chosen not to testify on Kim. Some people think you. He did speak to us by video link from prison and he had a lot to say about libby about Grayson about. He's once perfect life. What happened the mid all this? Go South what was the first thing I mistake. Probably with Jesse I mean meeting. In the night he arrested Jesse. What a lot of people in that circumstance. They're not very friendly but he was like twenty questions and even didn't feel it will feature a cop you arrest people before some of them are very nice but you made a decision you said okay. I'm going to go back there. Something might happen. Something sexual might happen. Because I'm attracted and so. Obviously he said out in resolved no. He said he only wanted to make sure. Jesse was okay. The sex was a surprise. He said it is widely understood that he Was enjoying this relationship with you. Maybe as much as you were with him but he found that you're married and intended to confront you about that. So that happened. Never why would he tell his mother he was going to? Why would he tell his friends he was going to? Why would why would he say those things to people if they never happened? You never been married. Never more came up. The point was Stephen. He didn't know that Jesse might have been planning to expose him so he simply had no motive to kill him. Though he agreed it might be hard to just take his word for it. Given how he lied to libby the police to everybody and you come forward and said look I did have a personal relationship with this guy and laid it all your cards on the table. If you're innocent. Why wouldn't you do the same sex relationship when you're married police officer? You know your human being as well they do that. It's it's easy to say now but it wasn't anything that I was proud of. It wasn't anything that I wanted to rebuild. The guys that are working. So he said he did want to hide that from the investigators but he didn't. He swore he didn't want to hide anything else quite the opposite. He said he done everything he could to help. Investigators my if my my house. If you WANNA clear your name the way to do that. It's not jumping off a building. It staying and telling the truth when you agree. So why why? Why threatened suicide. Everything was everything was crazy stall and I know people say stinging by but the like you had is over now. The question was would he get back? Libya's parents thought he might well. The jury deliberated they began making plans for Stephen for a life outside of prison. We all decided he couldn't stay in Colombia. Where was he going to go? You know didn't have a job. Crime Novelists Berry. Bumgarner felt confident to she had shared some of her research with the defense was sure he'd made his case. There was enough reasonable doubt to drive a truck through. She was across the street having lunch. When the word came of we. The jury found the defendants Stephen Arthur. Rios guilty of murder. In the second degree there was a gasp in the courtroom. Jesse's friends cheered but there was a gasp from a lot of people who are watching it. Stephen was found guilty of second degree murder. This time you'll be up for parole in two thousand and forty nine way too soon for. Linda still wasn't enough. I wanted the death penalty. Not The prosecutor sees some justice in twenty. Forgers with no dog in the fight came in and heard this evidence. And it's twenty. Four zero of the prosecutor has proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The stereos committed this murder. Libby still had her doubts in fact told us she believes Stephen is innocent until she dies who. She talked to us all these years later. It's why she encouraged her sons trips. Hundreds of miles three times a year to visit his dad in prison a few months ago we went with him and libby on the long ride. Sixteen now some big well. You've chosen a pretty interesting path and I think it's interesting that you say that I've chosen that path because I don't. I don't feel like it was a choice. I think it was a choice. I one hundred percent. It would be easier for me if I could have believed that he was guilty and moved on with my life and knowledge. Back and Linda has her grandchildren. Now said middle. Brayden is a spitting image of Jesse. Keep me busy. I got a full schedule most days. She climbs the Steep Little Hill to the place. Her Jesse will forever be watched over by the statue of that. Very Maria of the song here the start of his favourite path. The one that goes over the fence and through the woods to the barn over there after Jesse's death going through his things. Linda found a poem written not very place. I'm remember it. The central hate the long long down the road and it's ought to for mayor. As as tro down abating gravel path in the Indian winds blow through the cornfields. It's youth escaped from all. Harm the unpleasant memories that touched me. They certainly can't touch me night. Song of young band trading his past for a better future. It has a different meeting now missing. Still I mean. I think about him every day every day every heartbeat. That's all for this edition of Dateline. We'll see you again next Friday at nine eight central and of course I'll see you each weeknight for NBC nightly news. I'm Lester Holt for all of us at NBC News. Good night hi. It's Gina Bush. Hager from the today show and I'd love for you to join my book club with Jenna. I've loved reading since I was a little girl. And my mom. A librarian read to me every night. Now I love getting lost in the world that books open for US meeting characters who feel like friends. Every month I choose a book that I fall in love with usually by divers debut author's books that lead grey conversations read with genetics about sharing our love of reading and connecting with each other so visit today dot com slash read with genetic to join the club and get my latest pick.

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Living and Working in Quarantine - Update #2 from Spain

Paul Hickey's Data Driven Daily Tips

04:50 min | 7 months ago

Living and Working in Quarantine - Update #2 from Spain

"What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of quarantined in Spain on Paul. Hickey and I am here in my home. Office in Valencia Spain. We are on lockdown as many of you across the world know due to Kobe nineteen the Spanish government mandated over the weekend that we're not able to leave our homes at all unless it's to go get food or medical attention or actually if you have a pet you're allowed to take your pet outside and so we've seen a lot of great things From a personal standpoint do this this decision by the Spanish government There have been balcony gatherings balcony concerts. Because you're prohibited from From getting together with other families obviously to prevent the spread corona virus. So we've seen and been part of some really cool balcony gatherings families communicating with one another from balcony to balcony in the city. Here in Valencia. It's really cool. People are getting creative with ways to get outside and get some exercise and while people are definitely taking this very seriously which they should. We even saw video man walking his heater as an excuse to get outside and get some exercise instead of Walking a dog I guess he does not have a dog so this was a pretty funny. Anyway what is it really like. Well I gotta say for somebody who really enjoys being home and working from home. I've worked from home fully remote since about two thousand sixteen late. Two Thousand Fifteen so basically five years. Now I've been working from home. I find it super productive to be in a fully remote work environment. Data driven design is setup as a fully remote work environment but to be on lockdown quarantined in your own apartment. Not technically supposed to go out into the hallway. Take the elevator up to the up to the roof or anything like that to get some fresh air. It's definitely different. We're on day two and a half three now because technically started about three days ago I have to thank my wife Kate. Who's also a team mate of mine of data driven design? She's got a great Homeschool program basically going on right now for our ten year old and our eight year old. They love it. They're offering Spanish lessons on instagram. If anyone wants to Jon Bon at Hickey's everywhere and check out the Spanish lessons on instagram. That our kids are are offering people across the world via instagram. Have Kinda requested that? So thank you for our friends in the United States who are supporting us there I'm hearing that things in the United States are starting to take a little bit of a turn for what Spain is doing slowly but surely but I would expect that to continue out encourage all of you just to be smart. Be Safe out there with with how you're spending your time higher spending time with other people. I would limit gatherings you know what I mean. It's it seems to be working in Spain. Knock on wood and hopefully we'll all get through this. My heart goes out to all the people that are out there helping The healthcare workers and the government employees police officers and everyone that are out there working right now grocery store employees are working right now. So thank you For for all of your help in fighting the virus and helping people get through this time if you or your family or friends or any loved ones are directly affected by covert nineteen. Definitely my heart goes out to you. And if you're in business and your normal daily routine is interrupted. Let me know how that can help. We'd love to help data driven design. We've been a fully remote work team for like. I said I've been fully remote for about five years. Data driven designs been fully operational as a remote work team for about four years. And we're here to help so we're up and running. Our thoughts and energy is with you in this time and stay tuned for more episodes of I WANNA say locked up abroad but it's not necessarily locked up abroad. It's more like quarantined. In our apartment in Spain all is well so far And back with more updates. Thanks everybody have a great day. Be Safe be healthy.

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Nicole Reilly  Spiritually Flourishing on the Titanic

Reports from the Spiritual Frontier

45:14 min | 1 year ago

Nicole Reilly Spiritually Flourishing on the Titanic

"To reports from the spiritual frontier today by our patriot subscribers by path won the church planning agency of the United Methodist Church and by the Oregon Idaho conference of the United Methodist Church today. We're having a conversation with the ever hopeful in creative. Nicole Riley of Valencia United Methodist Church in Valencia California. She talks about her time. Resourcing church planters in California, and told me I quote, people talk about the mess of this church as if it's the Titanic, while the ship is going down. I'm going into the galley grabbing all the champagne and caviar loading into my life boat and inviting all my friends to join me. So hope you stay tuned for a little bit more of that conversation if you like what you hear take a couple of seconds, once you're done and post a rating and review on apple podcast. It's one of the major ways we get news out about our show in the pioneers, we talked to in as a great way for you to invest just two minutes of your time. And now our conversation with Nicole. Welcomes reports in the spiritual frontier. My name is Ben Yasser Davis, bringing you stories from the people who live and work on the spiritual margins of our country. Our guest today was the director of new ministries for the cow pack conference of the United Methodist Church and the current pastor Valencia Methodist church. And she brings to us a keen understanding of how denominational culture affects spiritual pioneers, and is a pioneering spirit yourself. Welcome. Nicole Riley to reports glad to be here with you, Ben. It's, it's just such a thrill to connect with you in, in this environment. I was, I was thinking we've communicated on and off almost through the whole life of my podcast. I think even even before back in my church play days. And I'm really thrilled to have you formally on the other side of the Mike. It's good to have this opportunity. I'm hoping I don't get into too much trouble out of it. Well, you know we permit all sorts of trouble making on this. Every sheet that at least that's the at least that's the theory. It's very easy for me to say because I don't have to. I don't have to go back and answer to anyone. I can just say, hey, what a great interview. So, you know one of your big passions in life in ministry is engaging with new spiritual. Pioneers, new ministries where does that come from in your own life? Yeah, I've always had a kind of a entrepreneurial thing, where I've alike to start new things. And I've also I would say one of the foundational things for me is that I like to watch things grow. So whether that's a person who's coming to Fe or someone who starting a new faith community or green be garden. I just enjoy encouraging watching things grow, and I think I've just always been like that, I don't know where it comes from. I think I was raised in a kind of family where we were allowed to do our own thing, and go in our own directions, and cultivate a free spirit. So I think that is something I brought with me then into ministry for you. Are you spend the first part of your career local churches where you are now? But in between the time you. Were director of new ministries for the California Pacific annual conference. Tell us a little bit just about your experience there. What got you started with their in very general sense. What was what was that five years like for you? Yeah. So I got into new ministries way before I was the director, I served on the team and was just very interested in how we were starting new faith communities. I'd always done revitalization work in the churches. I've been appointed to, and we had a really rigorous group of people and process to start new things, and really gave it a good amount of attention and encouragement in the system at the time in, so I enjoyed that and became then the director as I had been in the local church for awhile and then had left to do some house church planting. And I think the cabinet was hoping that, that might have been just a phase. A home but I would go back to the local church and be a good pastor again. And they actually were very helpful and supportive in appointed me part time to something, and I was still doing my house church planting and I just had a nice on his conversation with my district superintendent and said, I need something more than this. And so I'm not going to go back to the local church. I'm gonna continue to house church, planting and out of that than Bishop Cagno called me and said, you know, you have this desire to do new things and you have this background being on the new ministries team. Would you come and do a director of new ministries for a year in a way that we could both see if this worked for us and for you and so I serve my first year and then applied for the position as a permanent position. And I did that for five years. Can you tell us a little bit about what your speculations were for, for what the work would be? And what the dynamics would be that you'd be navigating when you first began the position, I felt the a lot of freedom. When I first started the position to customize it and way that made sense. And we had goals on church, planting of the western jurisdictional, developers all had goals that we had set previous to my starting and so I just started working on those goals during the five years, I was there we started, I think about twenty six new faith communities, and so I knew that, that would be a chunk. We tried to start a new one each year in each district. And so that was kind of our, our way of getting everyone involved to not look at the big number, but to just talk about, you know, one thing, new every year that we would start as a new phase. Of community, and then we I worked with district superintendents district, planning and strategy committee, and then also just, you know, getting the word out there about that. There was funding available and our opportunities to do things. And so that was about fifty percent of my job was working on new starts, which includes the work of assessing church planters and, you know, visiting all of the plants getting a sense of how things are going looking at how to resource taking church planters places. So they can learn new things and also have been courage to by being with other church planters, and then the other fifty percent of my work was doing are a vital ization work for our current local churches. So that was really enjoyable too, because there are so many churches out there that are looking for how to be more bible, how to engage their community. So I got really? Interested in mission insight using those tools, but also the tools of our, we used the readiness three sixty tool and that tool enables a church to do a self assessment, and then enables the conference. We came alongside them in had a fifteen month process to help them grow in some very definite areas to help them move forward. And so that was very enjoyable. We had a lot of churches that went through that probably gosh, I'm gonna guess, sixty or seventy torches went through that process. And, and just seeing people get a sense of how to move forward was really exciting to me. So a lot of hands on education in the dynamics of new things. Yeah. What you learn that perhaps, you didn't know before about kind of, what sort of spiritual dynamics spiritual pioneers, would be would be facing consistently in their work as they tried to start new faith communities. You know, I think one of our biggest challenges both in new things. And in violation of existing things is the spiritual life of the pioneer themselves. I found early on that was an area that we needed to give significant attention to and one of the things I've done even before it was in director, new ministries was, I would lead discipleship huddles, which are an intensive online six experience to help pastors and lay people work on their own spiritual life, and I realized over the years as I was doing these discipleship puddles tonight lead a couple every year, I have one coming up in July that most the folks, I was working with. With really had not found a spiritual practice that was helpful for them at the point. They were at in their life. They were trying to do spiritual practices that, you know, they felt they had to do over supposed to do so they aren't super excited about it. And the discipleship puddle material was, basically, to give people a little more grounding spiritually. And also, to really, not have it be book based but to have it been life based. So the huddle thing were either if you're a planter, or if you're doing any kind of church work is about what is God saying to you, and what will you do about it? And so that's kind of the spiritual practice. We help people develop listening to God and then responding to God, so that was one of the things I started to see early on was that we may send a folks to classes, we may give them good. Folks in tools. But if their own spiritual life isn't a flourishing. It's really hard to do this work, the that sue resonates with my experience. Increasingly what I hear as I talk with planters, and Judy Katori officials, and the like that, if people aren't grounded in a spiritual practice in a sense that their work is not just good. But, holy that, that, that in the end, it burn out out becomes a really huge issue. It's hard to find joy. It's hard to discern the movement of the spirit. Because oftentimes, these might experience when I was planning, and I don't think it was that typical is that I felt as well resourced as I could be when it came to dealing with some of the technical challenges leadership development. How do you structure a community applying for grants, those sorts of things? But the spiritual challenge is, how do I develop a life with God in the midst of his very highly pressurized environment? That was often where I found I found myself. Really kind of grasping for answers. And in fact, one of the things that I did was my wife and I both ended up in huddle for year as an actually ended up being our, our last year of church planning. And as I look back on it, it was really helpful for us in figuring out that no, this, this thing needed to end and we need to transition to a new. Yeah. I think it's a really common experience. I was raised in the Roman Catholic faith. And so, I think I came into ministry with a different kind of grounding in spiritual practices, the most of my colleagues in. So I've kinda felt it as a personal mission to find discipleship tools that are doable for busy, people that really make a huge difference because we need it, this is this is important work in too many times if we don't have that grounding. You're right. Burnout is just right around the corner. And I think as I think, warm more about this, I've just like this is God's work, and we are people who are in the midst doing what God gives us to do, but I feel like in the sense of in my own local church and also just in the things I am involved in with new start still to this day that we have. Get to the point where we say, God, this is way beyond what I can never do. So I am going to be so interested to watch. How you show up and move this, right? In my experience, the, the organizations that are doing some of the best work with this and are, are producing some things that are just tremendously. Fruitful are people who understand this integrated approach, I think about the folks with Bischel wisdom. I think about the, the on North Carolina annual conference where there's a really the, the way they train informed their, their spiritual. Pioneers is very explicitly integrated both strategic and spiritual and theological and it allows people to see that in the end, we're just cooperating with the work of God, and we have a perfect she, but God doesn't show. It doesn't matter. Exactly. I mean, invite that's really the key in all this, and it's an easy thing to forget, because we do, get very focused on results in a chief -ment and moving things forward. But went out this big piece. It's really not gonna happen. So I, I'm curious you mentioned how you're Roman Catholic background served you. Well, you came into this work. What were the what? Or the practices that you had kind of internalized taken with you that you found were important to offer in this very different context. Yes. So I left the Catholic church when I was in high school. And I had had a very formative experience for confirmation, which the Catholic church at that time the during seventh and eighth grade. And one of the things I learned was meditation. We did more of a centering prayer kind of approach, but the, the nun who who led us really introduced me to meditation and meditation since then. So I've been meditating since junior high, so like forty years, and I do not have a great practice. I am you know, a twenty to thirty minutes a day, meditate, or Nanhai do that in all whole bunch of different ways. But that's been an important piece. For me and my spiritual formation. And, and I find if I miss a day, or two days, I notice I am a much more difficult person to deal with. So it's an important thing for me in so in the last year. So this year, I started a two year program to become a mindfulness meditation teacher. And I'm studying with Jack cornfield in Tara brach, who who come from a Buddhist, background, not a Christian background? But the program itself is, is open to everybody and I actually just a couple of weeks ago came back from a a seven day silent retreat. Now the silence wasn't the problem. The ten hours a day of meditation was the problem zones. Yeah, I got about today three and I thought I was gonna lose my mind I actually texted my husband and said, I need to get out of this, and he was having a busy day at work, and he said, I can. Talk to you tonight. And by the time, am I got to that evening? I was doing better than I did stay for the whole of days, but I find and I don't recommend you know. So what did you learn? I said, I learned I'm not doing that again. That's what I learned. But I think meditation, because it can be done in a variety of ways, and it something that has so much to offer too. I just had a young adult come to see me who's dealing with a tremendous amount of stress in her life. And we talked about some simple meditation practices that she's put into practice. So it's, it's just one of those things that I think is can be key in a cornerstone, not only for clergy leaders and, and lay persons who are starting new things. But it's something that the secular society is much more open to. So I also see it as a bridge to reach people, and to speak, a language that people may. Be a little more familiar with than what we traditionally do in worship. I as a as a person who has done centering prayer for twenty minutes for a off and on since high school. I could very much sympathize with that experience. And how useful I found it. Especially when things were really, we're really stressful to get just just twenty minutes with my breath. And with God was was oftentimes, the thing that I could kind of hang my sanity onto the day. Exactly. I totally great between meditation pedicures. That's really what keeps me going. I wants to mid I have not done the the ladder. But. How difficult it is to set for twenty minutes and do nothing. It is. Of course, there's a certain sort of attention, which is very much not doing nothing. But I was sitting down this this morning. I'm NY chair. I have I have a cold today. So, like, you know, I'm not exactly. I, I don't actually want to pay attention to my body and what's going on. I'm like, come on. I'll have to do is just sit there just sit there just sit there till the timer goes off. Like, yes, right? Right. I mean that is it right? You just have to sit there, but it is it is at times on more than week novels do or indeed. So I'm curious if you could tell us a story about one of these spiritual pioneers, you worked with specifically around spiritual dynamics and finding spiritual practice and what they were experiencing beforehand at how the spiritual practice help them better, contextualized the work, they were engaged in. Yeah. So I think there's a couple that come to mind, and what I find spiritual practices helpful in very, practical sense, is around how we do our daily schedule. So one of the things I often work with a church, planter or someone doing violates a tumour cannot congregation is to talk about the over functioning that we do, because we don't have that practice of prayer. So pretty much everyone I work with one of the first things we talk about is, what is their spiritual? Actes. What are their goals for their spiritual practice? How much time do they spend on these things? And some knows what I find is that people are not able to really articulate that a couple of the planters. I've worked with most recently. We've looked at how they scheduled their daily work right from the beginning of the morning till the end of the evening and that to even begin the spiritual practices. We needed to have those personal appointments from seven to nine o'clock and that, you know, starting work at ten o'clock does not mean you're a slacker. So one of my a planters right now. Her problem was really almost in the opposite direction where she was having. She has a young child and she was spending time with her child in the morning and then in the evening, she was at so many meetings and you know, connecting groups in different opportunities to network that she wasn't having. That time home in the evening, and we looked at how to Cretaceous that, so you're just gone a couple nights and not so many nights on this kind of stuff, because spiritual practices is first about finding the time second, not beating yourself up, when you don't do it, because when we beat ourselves up for it than we do it even less. And so, in this case, I think one of the things that happened was she found more time in the morning for spiritual practices, because in the evening, she was able to go home and be with their family and be a little more grounded. So I find it's often when I worked with planters we start with those really basic things like what is your schedule? Are you over functioning? Do you really know that God will show up and take care of these things? You know to you do figure fifty percent of the time. God needs to show up and make this work or I, I can't do this without that piece. I find that these are some helpful thoughts 'cause you don't wanna say, do this or do that. Because what people need in their spiritual practices is different and Creech person, and also different depending on what else is going on in your life. Right. So if you've got little kids home, what you're gonna do in where they're going to do, it's going to be very different than if you're an empty nester. One of the things that I hear is, you're talking is that helping spiritual pioneers, stay rooted? It's really a holistic thing, I think, often when we think about spiritual practice were, like what new thing in my going to have to pick up in jam into my overloaded schedule off and feel guilty about when, when I don't do it, and that's really, really hard. Because as spiritual pioneers, I think as a group we tend to be over functions. And that tends to be actively encouraged by our institutions as well m just by the myths, and the stories about, you know, anyone's read like three church planning books. You'll read stories of people who overwork obscenely in our stories for it and see it as a point of pride. I mean to, to wear your schedule is so blocked out the really is no room for the Holy Spirit to, to move. You've got it all. You've got it all figured out. And I think I remember hearing someone say that they were clergy. And, you know, I think there was a judo Katori body. There were saying we all are. Clergy to do clergy, wellness. And so this Aleutian for them to do clergy, wellness was to send everyone off to a day-long workshop. And I, I saw a someone posed on Facebook like you know what? I am so busy. You know what? I really need for clergy, wellness. I need a day off and someone to pay my student debt. That would make me well go into lunch. Not gonna make me happier. Right. I mean see, that's the thing that this really is a holistic thing. And so if you don't have of. That whole big patriots. So for me if I hear anyone over functioning, the first thing, I'm gonna say is, so what your spiritual life like what practices, are you doing? When was your last day off? How many hours a day, are you working because when we're not connected to God in some real huge way we're gonna think it's about us. We're gonna feel the pressure to do the work and we're going to get into a lot of trouble that if we could take that our each warning for own spiritual life him what that looks like can be different Amine for me it's meditation. It's a bible verse, I do think called a thought. Download where I download all the crazy things I'm thinking for me. It's also spending some serious time in prayer practice a kind of prayer called affirmative prayer. And so, it's those pieces but they're going to be different for different people. But if we're not doing them, the fruit of that is obvious. I think the other thing that you that you that you just said that it might experience is really important is understanding that everyone's spiritual practices different that, you know, there are always like a thousand spiritual practices that are good. But the one that God is calling you to and whatever season of life, you're in is often very particular to you. And maybe very peculiar when you look at the whole wide range of all the options that are good that are available to you. Yes. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. So near experience as director of new ministries, working at a Judah, Katori level. What is your experience of what are the, the general spiritual dynamics that yourself and your colleagues faced as you try to remain centered and create space for spiritual pioneers, to do their open ended work in the midst of a very anxious system? Yeah. It's, you know, I think it's very challenging kind of the image that came to meet early on as there was a lot of anxiety in the system. And I had to kind of make some choices about what approach, I was going to take, there's many times, people talk about the Methodist churches, the Titanic. Right. And so I felt like well if the ship is going down. I am going to go into the galley. Get all of the champagne caviar loaded in my life vote in invite. All my friends to join me. And I that image was helpful to me because. It is what it is. But if we really have this amazing good news of God's love and Jesus Christ. There is still much to celebrate enjoy. But we do have to make those choices to focus their on the building of community on the having fun on the enjoying of one another, in the midst of a system that can be very anxious. I found it very frustrating that we did not move faster and a lot of that is because there is just so much psychic energy. All this takes that. It's, it's difficult. I found what was helpful for us in new ministries was really to focus on what we had to do the task, we had to do the people, we were working with, and how we might encourage them in and also help normalize the difficulty of at all transplant. Eating is hard. And so to help everyone go. Yes. This is hard. God has called us too hard work. But God is there in the midst of it. And it's, it's so K on that we have those days of despair discouragment, but they cannot be the final word. I think the very first time I went to the conference center when I was a young clergy person. This is like, you know, twenty five years ago, I had this just sense of despair and darkness in the building. Mean it just felt like a sad lace. And that's why I think getting out into the local church getting out to visit new starts, and to see them is such a corrective to the anxiety in the system. You know we just had a confirmation yesterday. We had eleven young girls women confirmed and three of them were baptized. And when you see. See the actual fruit of people giving and serving and what God is doing. That's a good corrective to the doom and gloom that often exists at that kind of level of the institution. I think it's gotta be. So discouraging in these times, but I, I try to focus and I think those in these positions try to focus on what God is still doing and met. There's a lot. That's amazing. There. Reminds me actually knew talking about that reminds me a lot of why I do this podcast. This is like a discipline of, of, of hope it's very easy to get caught up in the narrative that the church's dying. When in fact, what's happening is the church is being reborn. Yes. It it's the discipline of talking with folks like you, but just talking to people who are just doing amazing beautiful work across the country. I always end these conversations feel like you know what? We're going to be okay, we're going to be okay. There's a period of, you know, weeping and gnashing of teeth and fire, and all those other good, biblical metaphors, that is institutionally in front of us. But God is already doing the new doing the new thing and what we're gonna find the end of this of this is that I think most of us are going to discover that we don't miss the anxious institution as much as we fear that we might. Yeah. No, I won't miss it at all. I, I like I love serving the local church in. That's that was helpful. I was good for five years, working at that level. But it is a very different kind of approach in and it can be very discouraging. I think so it is it's good to be connecting to the new thing. The real thing, the thing, that's growing what God is doing. So I'm curious for you. How did you experience these spiritual dynamics personally working in this very anxious environment? And also, I known your position, Mike's -perience with folks who were kind of in a'similar position directing and supervising spiritual pioneers, that in some ways y'all are kind of the ones who are standing in the gap between the anxious institution on one end, and the spiritual pioneers, on the other end did you kind of get it from both ends the exiled form ends? I'm curious what that experience was like. And how did you find it affected? You spiritually both for good and for ill. Yeah. You know, I try to not think about that stuff anymore, right? I think I did, I think it was not an issue for the first three years, the last two years were much harder for me. And some of that was there's just so much exiled in the system in. I'm just not interested in that in in there's a lot of meetings, and there's a lot of discussion talking in I, I just found I was not feeling the kind of joy that I wanted in my life, and then I believe God had for me. I'm also a doer in. So I spent most of my time out in the field in. So that was helpful to me. I did find early on, you know, confess early on probably my first summer doing new ministry. As is the director. I went out to visit a visit a church every week every Sunday, I would go either to worship with them or because they were meeting some encouragement, I might go to do workshop or whatever, and I think I did like seven in a row and I hold onto the driveway. One day after the seventh one and just put my head down on the steering wheel and just wept, because there was so much lost potential lost opportunity anxiety sadness, and my husband and I talked about it, and we realized that we needed to make a list of churches where things were going better. We put some of those on our list of places we visited of because it is. We've we've squandered a lot. I think we have not been good stewards of what God has entrusted us with. And we have we have catered to situations where people, we have not done, the hard things we needed to do twenty years ago, thirty years ago to reach people in today's world cow pack is growing, you know, we're southern California, and there's lots of people move in here, yet our churches are in serious decline in a lot of that is because we did not add modern worship. We did not raise money to revitalize buildings. We did not continue to, to do those pieces that really matter to people looking for faith communities in today's world. So I went through a time where I certainly was discouraged. When I did decide to move on. On. It was because I just I wasn't sure that this was that we were gonna move forward 'til we had made some decisions as the Methodist church to move forward. So either, you know, we, we work in doubt figure things out, or there's a split or whatever happens. It just seemed that a lot of things were on pause till then and I don't want to live my ministry on pause. So I moved on three or experience over that five years. What did you learn the you of that five years before would have been most surprised by? Sank you know what rough shape? More churches were in than I thought. I think that was I, I looked at a lot of demographics when I first got there kinda saw how many churches had had hundred and fifty in worship and now were, you know victory in worship? So I hadn't I you know, I think that's just normal right? We're in our own local context, dealing with their own situations. And we don't realize what's going on in the larger context. So I think that was. Sobering, but it was also. Inspiring to how we resource on how to get out there and do hands on stuff to help churches. Because I do believe in the church me now more than ever. And I believe people are searching for God now more than ever, and if we can speak a word of hope in light in relevance to people's lives. That's huge. That's what people are seeking. At the end of the work. I mean it sounds like there was a lot of good. There was a lot of discouragement and you found a really good time to, to exit. When you felt like you could have gotten stuck in we're could've started doing spiritual damage to you for which I for, which I commend you. I'm curious to like say, you, you end this, this five-year sees it of ministry, you go back into the local church. What were the sources of hope relearning or inspiration that you took with you? Yeah. So when I was leaving being director, new ministries, my thought was not to go back to the local church. I had gotten Mike credential as an ICF coach and I figured I would spend my the next season of ministry doing coaching more resources in Zion. Joy that so much. And I also thought I would be going back to school. So I actually had been accepted into a masters program in religious studies and I thought I would be working on a book that I'm working on. So that was my plan and then God had other plans. But when that door opened up to come to Valencia, you know, I thought, well, this is this is a phrase phrases, God's economy, right, all the things that we experienced in life. We get to bring with us and God uses them for good. So I think all those years of driving around whole conference getting to know all judges, get to see the struggles and the possibilities really helped me as I came back into a local church to use those things to take a really wonderful congregation and help them as we look toward what next steps are. For how long have you been Valencia? I've been hearing a year. It'll be a year, the end of this month, and it sounds like it has been a refreshing a surprise to, to cut come back to the to the local church. Discover a lot of hope in meaning there it's been great is this. I think the best church in our annual conference. Honestly, it is a church that has a priority on worship and has incredibly talented in dedicated musicians in staff, and then also has a priority for small groups and during lent. We had three hundred people in small groups in this church, and then Huzzah, their last focuses on getting out there and making a difference in the world. So we're very involved in new shoes around homelessness, in a couple other issues, but locally around homelessness in our community. And so it's been it's been fun. I. Enjoy my staff lot congregation is a, a congregation at wrestled with issues around inclusiveness around homosexuality in the nineteen nineties, so they made those decisions to be an affirming place way back then. So it's not been a big conversation here, we've had some conversations, but the churches had a sense of where God was leading it for a while. And I just love it. I love living here, I love I love the ministry, and they're wonderful ministry partner. So we have a lot of fun. So we know that one of the things that you've been looking at is how to bring mindfulness meditation into Christian practices a form of worship. Could he tells a little bit more about that? And where that's currently landing in your context. Yes. So that's something that's percolating. So one of the things that I'm, I'm constantly thinking about, you know, being in my first year wasn't going to unleash any. Thing. But now I'm thinking about, you know how do I take this mindfulness meditation? And how do I look at that from this context of this ministry here and I, I'm not sure where this will end up going. I think we'll try several experiments to see what's helpful one thing that we're looking at is we're right across the street from the hospital. And so offering opportunities for people to come and sit into practice meditation here as well as to bring it, there is one of the things that we'll be looking at and talking about also looking at the idea of how we might start a, a worship gathering that really had as its focused meditation and sitting in, so there is one type of meditation, that's called the loving kindness meditation. And this is a more of a guided meditation that people do. And it's. It for me is a very much about the teachings of Jesus. Because what you do is you think of not only yourself in people you love, but also people, you struggle with and imagine them and say, may you be well nail you be healthy may be free from suffering. And so it's a way to pray for our enemies, which Jesus calls us to do. I think it's also a way to connect with. What's often missing in our lives this self acceptance and love that we all are seeking because we're super good at beating ourselves up. And I think loving kindness meditation helps with that as well. So one of the things I'm exploring, is what it would look like to have a group that wants to do a worship service. That is a little bit of music us sitting in meditation a little bit of a refund. Lection from me in in practice, in Buddhist practices called the Dharma talk. But it's like a sermon. So a reflection and unrelated that the bulk of time is for sitting in meditating in guiding people through that process. So it's one of the things I'm nuts, really percolating as I'm, I'm looking at that. And in the fall, I'll be doing a little more work on that with seeing using Amita in order to see if there are there is interest in this, I like to put together something that's a lightweight and low maintenance way of rolling things out. And then see if this is really just something, I'm interested in, or if this is something that the community would respond to. So I think that that's looking at it from that kind of perspective. We do also have at the church already that pre predates me. There's a group of people who are meditators at this church, who gather, you know, four or five times a quarter to do some centering prayer together. So this is a community that I think, is open to this, and I'm just interested into, you know, what God will do to open those doors as we look at. What's next there? So what do you not know yet? Oh man. I think one of the things I don't know yet is how to do all of this in the most life giving and sustainable way. So I think the thing I'm always working on with my coach is. Not over functioning not. Not driving myself crazy, giving myself those breaks and looking at that is always a thing. I think I keep trying to learn over and over again because I think, you know, my human nature's stuff, such that I just I just have a tendency to over function in. So it's looking at. How to keep learning that how to stay on that path. What is it that it means to live, my fullest expression, as a Christian as a pastor as a leader and still have all those other pieces of life? That make life beautiful and worth living. Well, when you figure that out, please let the rest of us know. I think that's the thing right. We each get to figure it out because it's different for all of us are goodness. But you see this is a great opportunity for you to, you know, you could you can write a book, you can start a conference. You can become famous. We can all do your twenty two step process for not performing anymore. I mean, the right twenty two steps, I think it should be much longer than that. Yeah. Yes. If we want to find out more about your your work as a coach about Valencia where should we go? Yeah. So I have a website and it is lightweight. Low maintenance dot com. And if that's too long, it also goes to Nicole Riley dot com. And then you'll see Valencia has a link there as well. And we do weekly sermon podcast. We've been doing a series on the teachings of Jesus. So that's been super fun. Also, the discipleship huddles are there on the website and information about coaching. Wonderful. Well, thank you so much for the this gift of your time, and your wisdom. I really appreciate how well you've processed and reflected upon your experience and it sounds like it was a it was a challenging one at times. And I also pre sheet the hope that you're able to take into this new setting as well. Absolutely. I think it's very hopeful time and thank God is leading us, and our, our quest is to follow. So do you have a blessing, you could offer to close our conversation today, my to the Lord, give us peace in our going out and are coming in, in our lying down in arising up in our labor and in our leisure in our laughter? And in our tears until we come to stand before him on that day, the which there is no sunset, and no, dawn through Jesus Christ. Our lord. That's it for today special things to do with bringing for cover art Munich, Barrett for theme music Nicole for being my guest and finally to my patriot subscribers special. Thanks as always to have won the Oregon, Idaho annual conference by eight house in the upper New York annual conference. We'll be back next week for an updated re released with one of my favorite episodes of season to a conversation with the offensively generous, Sean steel of Saint his doors episcopal church. Thanks for listening. Hope you join us next time on reports from the spiritual frontier.

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129: Stage 4 | Cullera  El Puig | Vuelta a Espaa 2019

The Cycling Podcast

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129: Stage 4 | Cullera El Puig | Vuelta a Espaa 2019

"When you're listening to this siping podcast of their would i spy nest association with rafa the fastest clothing in the world into the home of cycling miscount right and watch with graph on in twenty nine teen as they partner if education i take kenyan strong states for today we are in and welcome to spain. My name blown over neom with daniel free daniel. We're in valencia amont by n._c._i. Generally means no no do i but i'm on this. I'm valencia lancia football fans as some kind of catchphrase was become a hashtag deplorable hashtag. I think it just means come on valencia in valenciana dialect. I'm won't what was the story about the bats valencia the well. The valenti football team has bad the badchi's about above the valencia flag. I haven't done my research on that. I should really know that but we we're in valencia for a few days so we will revisit. Is it not subject bats in valencia. We will indeed well. We're on the outskirts of energy really just next door to the louis velodrome named named after the former u._c._i. President he would president in a very late eighties for only a short period of time four heim bergen but well spanish spanish of course he was also on the big move big noise in the i say for a while and was instrumental behind bringing the world championships to benjamin in nineteen ninety-two we were in a few days ago of course i'm that was when johnny boonyamwong olympic year ninety two so there was only really a professional channel menus road race and there were really no take us for the world championships last year and louis peut some strings and the world championships kinship some benadryl together and well benadryl and what i got out of it was i got loaded. Road tree surfaced so win win for everyone anyway. The velodrome is just at the world track. Track championships were held there in ninety two well and the other big thing about valencia. Daniel is to which we lost night. What would your verdict commu vegetarian paige. Yeah it was good. It was decent but we're in the province of alicante went. We we now in valencia so hopefully we're not in the most auspicious gastronome industrial destination. We're in the trip hotel. Detail northern valencia trip was i'm going to whisper it because team personnel. I'm all around us. We stayed entertainment. Tellers decoding trip was a hotel chain and favored by famous as the doctor. I know because i've seen some of his hotel receipts in police files. He often used to request the trip hotel hotel chain. Maybe a loyalty card and then the ride it had a loyalty card as well didn't. They threw for decades quite possible but getting to <hes> pa. I'm fox by this napalm because well whatever learned today is the the <hes> valencian lenten which is the original pie is indeed <hes> does indeed contain only meat no fish so rob it and <hes> mhm chicken originally a couple of centuries ago the main meet the main meat ingredient was marsha rot apparently wow i even even though i wouldn't eat now. I'm afraid we did have an excellent in this region a couple of years ago in the press room which had rather in it. I think that might have been in sacramento concord quite remember. Maybe it was certainly on this stretch of coast. The pie in the pressuring today was also very very good. It was raining lemon in evidence that was lemon is known as as well. Apparently this is a big nine. Apparently master chef in spain ed in spain in may there was a huge control and because there was a contestant from valencia. I think very well in massachusetts. I don't watch. I don't watch t._v. Generally but i didn't watch master chef but i think he was highly highly highly highly some talented. This signal contestant from valencia and the judges were absolutely appalled. He served up a pie with a lemonade <hes> decorated garnished with lemon and they said well what's wrong with. It must be something wrong with you. Put lemon in the middle. You must be trying to hide something ratissi. T._v.'s daniel freed the meeting. Don't watch tv absolutely thus the daniel free playbook really isn't it when well my pa experienced last night slightly disappointing throw the rice with the chicken was good but the seafood element on a maybe i'm coming around to the idea that the meat and seafood shouldn't mix because because my language team was really disconcertingly translucent and there was a big rain in the prone and i couldn't unfortunately <hes> well i left both seafood elements on the side the pa in the press room excellent there were two variations one traditional with with <hes> with with chicken in but i am on a seaming sin and the the other one had chick peas and putting it on my street but this isn't the pie podcast they see the cycling podcast and in this episode we will be hearing from excellent dr james knox quickstep who had to win today and nick schmaltz admittance scott. We'll also hear from mitch daca <hes> of education i and from all shannon we from the sunken podcast feminine and your spoke team of course but before that let's recap stage four from seattle to help each it was well. I had a really torture porn word. Play the setup here already witnessing this daniel but we no longer in the cost of blanca. We've moved up a bit. Sam bennett didn't win the stage but i had a a twisted version of the misquote from the film casablanca several anchor play it again sam on the cost of anchor. The quote didn't even appear in the film. It's <hes> it's a misquote. It's assumed that one of the character set play against sam in casablanca great movie that you know even watched on you anyway. Just because sam bennett didn't win the stage it was <hes> well. It was quite a siesta style a wasn't it for lots of yellow while of lotto she down hall geico bogas be h ached broke clear coup better mechanical problem with thirty one kilometers to go wally stayed out in front a little bit longer till eighteen kilometers to go and then run into the town remmy. Kevin of the current quickstep launched a very strong attack with about five and a half kilometers to go was interesting. You should mention that time which was supposed to be an attack he just road to false <hes> he was supposed to be setting the pace and then i suppose him at the finishing and yeah he got himself a fifty meter gap hundred eighty gap and at that point <hes> well you must carry on now <hes> ya got it badly wrong almost very very right he did this is another another example of how the sports directors they reverse fit their their excuses their tactics comment because <hes> we'll for pizza's the current quickstep thinking give me that impression at all anyway combined you stayed clear until he was in touching distance of the kilometer go banner but then he was caught on the final round about the irish champion yesterday winner of course sam bennett went a long way round. I even have a job to do lost ground. He lost his teammates and in the finishing straight he came up very very fast at the dunk. Champion fabio yacob's just a few days short of his twenty third birthday held on to win by a couple of centimeters for decoding quickstep bennett was second fernando gabeira who had a shocker yesterday with byrd bennett takes over the lead in the points competition jersey his fellow irishman nicholas roach held originally for another day a significant stories today what they was crashed rigoberto ran with about fifty seven kilometers to go a touch of wheels and he went down he was brought back by his teammates required a bit of treatment treatment. The medical car to his left wrist the other big news concerning the c._d.-rom steven krause like he's out of the race. He'd been suffering with a bad knee. Jimbo komo crashed in the team time trial on the day he withdrew from the race and i think you spoke to him at the finish. I'll ask you what he said in a minute. I'm and that's a blow for them is because tomorrow it's the first summit finish the race fastest clothing in the world tour the home of cycling account right and watch with twenty nineteen as they partner nation i in kenya's run. Thank you very much to rafeh. The pedal ed to sean prize will be awarded at the weekend. Keep your nomination coming just a just word on what merits our peddler sham nomination. We're not ruling out people who give beat almost two young fans. That's that's very charming behaviour but maybe a beat if you see something different to that that would be good so keep coming on twitter at cycling underscore podcast and as ever if you want to check out the peddler desha a sham range of clothing t shirts jerseys and caps go to refer dot c._c. Now yesterday to kinda quickstep made a bit of a mess things didn't they. They had post jakobsen amex rich as a in the talk six. I think it walls <hes> didn't work out for them but today they got it right but details. You take it right by default because fan going the wrong way. Round the roundabout way. Lonzo bennett was suddenly as false too so i he looks all see as he happened yesterday. <hes> it's interesting isn't it. Weighs mistakes can still be made <hes>. I spoke to benefit the finish. He said well you. The bulk at the roundabout was welded looks like different in the book <hes> and that was why he made the mistake that he did for usually what teams to now as they say they have people who go ahead of the race not for feedback that kind of information sort of reminded me of what happened to me by pino on the states that i'll be torch francois the infamous that the magic roundabout where they lost forty positions and and again there <hes> the riders had the told something about that particular roundabout proved quite different when they go to it <hes> but it was it was pretty costly wasn't it <hes> but you know sprints winning sprints about avoid mistakes as well isn't it. That's what's missing did he did <hes>. He's a talented writer. Of course he's a dutch national champion only twenty two years of age and <hes> apparently was i was disappointed yesterday not to get it right. At the finish i spoke to both max chasing and the dakota quickstep sports director wilfred peters two links. Thanks here. I as a the lead out man and the road captain really very experienced rider the argentinian champion of course and then for wilfrid pizzas yesterday. It didn't workout for jakobsen but today everything went perfectly yes. Do they really good job. In the final. It was not easy because <hes> the win a lot corners and we take the decision the the story stay in the front in the in the last case <hes> <hes> did a perfect job with romy before in winning here talk with stevie in the last guy nothing we we did <hes> really good in <hes> little happy yaacob some because yesterday he must have been disappointed. Yes yesterday was many cows host gaultier sprint on for today. We changed the tactic. <hes> <hes> we did this between the front and we win yesterday ding perfectly <hes> for fabio did it no yes there was more faster less five gays and there was two formula and now we have a little bit crossman known about five. I get to go and then rescue to to remove cavaignac who were speeded up there. Okay see let him go and on the happy somebody nonetheless rich rich doubles important for ourselves so that we star and <hes> okay one guy of not going over there while the best situation then it gives you can't go on on the on for for only following meters. Okay you so bennett come from behind fast and okay. We won't two centimeter centers enough to centimeters enough enough. You've seen a lot of very very good sprinters in this team. How did it feel when a young guy riding. His first grand tour gets a victory like this. This is very important. I think <hes> for support him and over the motivation i think a guy like him and the two i think he is more important than the first week is important on the thing after the climbs the the next two sages. It's very hard for him and suffer a lot better for him today. In those forty degrees and i think we can continue like this level it <hes> shoot styling cars team car. The back of the tax lease voice upset p._k. Race radio at the to france to remind us to tell you that this episode of of well to coverage is sponsored by roka sunglasses roco founded in two thousand thirteen in a garage in austin texas with the mission to create the world's finest. I wear and six years thirty plus patents later roca athletes have won numerous whoa titles on stage of the tour france and one of the favorites for this welter make league alejandro lopez also wears roca sunglasses now the model he chooses to where is the really eye-catching c._p._i. One x and it's a model title of classes that i managed to try out in between the two of the front and the vuelta the quite large frame and wrap around the front of my face they could almost been and designed specifically for the contours of my face and that apparently is not an ac an accident they also have bendy arms which means that you can mold food to fit you specifically and well. I tried them with a couple of different cycling helmets and they fifty two equally well with both of them but the thing that struck me most about them wars that even though they fit close and they're quite enclosed you can't really feel them and the most crucial thing was they didn't follow up now if right in britain in the summer. You'll be familiar with these circumstances. When it's a very warm day and then he got a rain shower. Normally the first thing that happens is the colossus fog up but the roka c._p._i. One x classes just didn't do that and well that was that was something that was noticeable for me if you would like to check out the full roca range enj- which they describe as the lightest most advanced eyewear in the peleton go to roka dot com slash vuelta and you can get twenty percents off your order rocca dot com slash welter and you can get twenty percent off the price well. We're in the declining quick hotel down your no sign of obvious via celebrations yet but i'm sure they'll have a beer with at dinner. Let's hear from our diarist james knox who was part of the quickstep team of course he's not really involved in laid out so that's not his job here. Nevertheless he has tasted the winning feeling the evenings i i let's hear from james knox and secondly from our other diaries nick shorts of mitcham scots who answered some of your questions now both james and nick are happy to answer any questions you got about the welter or cycling in general enroll check out our twitter feed at cycling underscore podcast or search for james knox knicks shorts on twitter and post questions and over the coming days if they have quite the race and don't have anything particular to report they were onto some of your question but <hes> here they are our welded irish. James milks mature in another stage down on obviously the result. We're off to a very very good day in the end. We've taken the win and <hes>. I think more importantly only one. I think everyone did the perfectly. I think you know great atmosphere on the bus afterwards everyone's bosom. We're going to enjoy a nice beer the dinner table tonight. I think tim road like a halsall day on the front and then attack from cavani really put the other teams in the pressure and then mocks stay together and paul fabio into the opposition position to sprint for the winner fabio finish off even we even though it was less than a tie wits i think in the end so no we're all really dead show for that today. That was <hes> house perfect. The not my day a little bit of a crush fifty k. and i think just flipped over the balls well those already some people on the floor and then i'd know it goes across like a little send than a pint single single file road and the whole road was bought wife. Some guys on the deck and i just love bounce over the top and london body was pretty look. It's come away with anything my moment dot but now been here a couple of days catching up with them before and after the stages they've been part of our. I think they went over. Look at villanova instead of going to the finish today so the here for up until i rest day i think almost so yeah it's nice having the mayor not seeing them an awful lot so true cacho with them as much as possible. I guess as well that's my. I victory in a grunter pods team which is a big deal. Actually <hes> shouldn't take grenades. I guess this team things like that. You do sought to take them for granted. <hes> <hes> happens a bit too much all of success but <hes> no. It's really really nice yeah. Look situation to be with how how well it's going in the team. I guess if i'm being honest there's a certain amount of pressure on our shoulders to perform get results in the jiro saudi. The side of that things dink cargo is planned. <hes> it was hard because you know for the top guys in the game hounded i guess by media while nelson get paid to to win as well and not seem so of same expects a bit so so huge weight off the shoulders <hes>. I think the whole has just become a little bit nicer today. You know we can have a hopkins now. We got stage win under under the belt <hes> we can keep going for victories without that little extra stress. Yes savings today and i enjoy it. Okay stage four all all done and dusted straightforward day <hes> with a lot of walk lock on saudi in regards to the weather <hes>. We're a little stone come over while we were starting the the main climate day but the descent was dry which was good <hes> in the technical running with god knows how many roundabouts bats also dry so that made things a lot less stressful moving on. We've had a few questions coming that i'll respond to <hes> as well. I'm from bob who who asks what's not having the lights brothers rotting in a grand to <hes> from a personal level. That's difficult for me to answer so i haven't been a part of this team <hes> <hes> out of that i've not but auto imagine us not too much different be honest <hes> way he with the alita and clear objective we've <hes> and we we rod to that objective so i think it would be more or less the same <hes> with without them <hes> at more or less all the grand to is now <hes> as that's. That's the direction that this team is taking <hes>. There's another one he from garth who is asking if we have a toggle white <hes> before we come to the welte ulta or if it's a consistent white all year i think that probably varies amongst raja's. I personally locked. Keep things pretty controlled throughout the year pretty stable but of course coming into a grand till you you don't really wanna come in over white at all so assure you you stay pretty focused in the in the weeks leading up to it to make sure you you're white is under control <hes> for myself. <hes> electron be around sixty six kilos for for important races ices. There's one he from dan in in regards to dada so yeah. There's a lotta insulin. Now pal meat is hot right <hes> he probably plenty of aware of but i think it's a i think it's a good thing for fans to interact with <hes> four keep a a <hes> rods on on strong so that the people who are interested can can check in and see what what the stages alike what training is like certainly helped me any improve informs a main basis of my training so yeah for sure i'm i'm pretty long upon power in training but not at all in racing a lucrative wall. I'm racing <hes> and i don't analyze it on a day-to-day basis. That's for my coach and i guess if anything's necessary necessary to communicate with mayhew do say so yeah. If anyone else has any other questions or things you'd like to hear about <hes> on the daily have whole what's happening in the peleton just let us know and <hes> all <hes> anthony she is. This podcast is supported by science in sport. Don't science in sport fueled by science. Thank you very much assange for sponsoring the cycling podcast sanchez of recently launched that planck twenty range which in an natural vegan approach to on the go protein which which had also low in sugar packed with protein a key nutrient in the growth and maintenance of lean muscle mass scientists sports great tasting ranges ideal as a snack or at a why if topping-up protein intake throughout the day check out their plant twenty range apart and power to the song jian sport dot com so daniel the big a big loss for visa is steven krause like who is on the podium at the tour de france of course and with coming here to support primoz rogue lich banged his knee in the team time trial when they crashed and hasn't really been right since it seems lost time on stage two minute and forty three seconds. I think it was because he couldn't hold how to pay on that. Final climb now out of the race of blow for him. Bove is that yeah it is a big blow for your biz man <hes> even if you assume it wouldn't have been in the shake-up for general classification as hopes faded in the first few days then you would've imagined gender unhoped found that i'm he would have been very useful for premiums rog lynch in the second half of the rights particularly thinking by the jiro when we talked so much about somehow rogue lich it may be locked to pour in the mountains remember they had antoine told who set koos and kirk bowman his mountain domestiques. It's having well haven't been deprived rub acing before the race. 'em hey hey singer. Who's going to be very useful. <hes> he's supposed to go george bennett and he's he's got set curse again so he's relatively well-supported but obviously chrysler would have been <hes>. We would have been another weapon for humor with <hes>. Um himself was disappointed. Obviously i think less disappointed than he would have been for example. This is happening in the tour de france because really what he you did off the tour de france. He took a week off and then he did <hes> about ten days very hard training dealer climbing so it wasn't a huge body. You've worked at gone into this. It's now been compromised but you just said the <hes>. The knee wasn't really getting any better in eastern have more checks and more tests on it. It didn't know yet whether i season is over but i would just suggest that is likely to be the case now. The other juicy ride <hes> who had a tricky day in a trick accuse crowds like of course was rigoberta ran lying third this morning eight second nicholas roach six seconds behind nuyorican tana. He hit the deck and well. I spoke to his education first teammate mitch docker at the finish and he took full responsibility for that crash. Percival mitch told me three to crash actually happened just a touch of wheels. Actually it was my fault just the wheel. I just happened to look dan for second. The next time i looked up those wheel and i was on the wrong side of the wheel and they actually i feel pretty terrible because regardless following me around and just crashed one of those things like main obviously and cross wheels. I went down. He okay though you okay. I've inspired him yeah. He never that good. When you the ground i mean it's an occupational hazard it and if you're working for a team leader you know ought to challenge. You've got to keep close together. Gas yeah look just wondering so let that fight and that trust and you know something like that today damages that sorry i have we you can just move on but then in pink coloma to you're up the front. Keeping the pike high was not just to keep the best chance of getting our again klay. We'll never trying to split split there because i didn't think that was strong enough but coming into those towns and things when you there's a lot of roundabouts. There's it's better to be on the front from dhaka there because obviously in the point he made was the team leaders trusted all mistakes and talk to wheels means that a little bit of that trust get chipped away and docker. I think think by beat character probably feeling a bit miserable about that this evening but we will have to see how badly bashed up around walls awesome. We'll find out tomorrow of course because summit finish and it's the two colombians kentuckiana in iran who are most likely to take over the red a journey if nicholas roach voters but then you know looking a bit further down mikhail navy at twenty two seconds mcgowan lopez thirty three and rogue lich thirty five superman daniel superman. He's <hes> maybe we should ration the superman mention one one purpose now anything so i'm superman gave a slap in the in the mixon tonight you often science. I i do feel sorry for writers. Particularly writers who tend to <hes> be take the lead or be leading the young riders competitions in in stage in three weeks stage races lupus is how to three years now where he's taking the league pretty early and it means. He has to come to mix every day and he has to lose about fifteen. You know twenty minutes. <hes> giving interviews in the mixon happens with saigon at the tour de france and saigon is bull mix kind of bored of every day has to come and because he's in the green jersey more often than not so <hes> yeah the poro superman. You need to think a question saying i mean why not one far some some random quiz question. What would it good question is a good question. What would be a good question for superman in the mix loan tomorrow. Submit your suggestion. Cycling underscore podcast on twitter and daniel will definitely definitely asked the most embarrassing ones now just a a slight change of mood here because one of the riders in the two men break today was yellow while as of the lotto style team and they had a very traumatic take months because they're young teammate. Your lambrechts died after a crash. At the torah poland earlier this month and lambert would have written this welter <hes> <hes> and really the impact of the incident has taken a toll on the lotto team and a couple of mornings ago. I spoke to mark sargeant. The team boss just really to possum. I can donuts israeli and he talked about how difficult it bean for everybody in the team to cope with the loss of lambert not just because he was a young writer in such a talent but because he was so popular within the team team and he said that the the rest of the year really he's given on if the ride is the freedom to make choices for themselves depending on how they fail i come to terms with the aftermath of an incident unto right in particular teach minute and yesterday boost were supposed to be riding the pink bank tour very big race for lotus she dial because off of it takes place in belgium neyla off in netherlands they wanted to go to lambreks funeral and asked if they could be swapped out team and volunteered to ride the tour denmark instead and they both won stages in the tour de mar which kind of just this shows you and sergeant with talking about how the sport goes on life goes on that doesn't take away from the fact that it's very difficult and the ride in this race i saw still coping with the loss they have suffered but while as did a fantastic job a tribute to his teammate justice sunda are made a couple of days ago now daniel sam bennett. They've been a lot of discussion about the future of sam bennett he'd been with boorda hans grow <hes> <hes> for a while now and very disappointed that starts the disappointment was palpable in your interior with him when he knew from very early in the year at the team's training camp that he wouldn't be writing the retaliate and i think you were quite surprised about how outspoken he was about the teams policy knocked to pick him for the year because he would of knowing that he wouldn't ride the tour de france either yeah at that point i think we can. He worried that he might miss out all the grand tours. That seemed to be the vibe. It wasn't didn't turn out to be the case here the the welter. I'm i think he's proven this year that he deserves the <unk> franz <hes> we don't know komo mentioned last night and we we waiting for him to <hes> reveal where he's going to be ready next year. We think it's going to be decoded. Quick step on. I'm sure we'll do really well well earlier. Today i went to see all the shadowy who's working here for eurosport of course if you're watching the race on eurosport live you'll see in order showy hosting the coverage. She's one of the hosts of the sunken puffs femina course irish as i saw you daniel so it's been a big few you days for us with nicholas roach in red jersey and and sam bennett now in the green jersey. I mean how active i'm very emotional sawyer. I'm sure kelly the impression goodness me. It's me well yeah. I asked <hes> all <hes> what you know how this kind of resonates as there's an irish person and in the media i cannot in too well with all the shadowy down at the finish line big day for the irish yesterday orla. How did you oh oh oh. Ley stopped me when you're like oh. I'm sure that's an international. I know it's an engine also bradford's but that's basically are from italian nine thousand nine hundred. I'm gonna go and hide. I cook it was brilliant. It was awesome so we had <hes> nico wrote showing the day before on your escort when he went into red and then we had some bad on yesterday i i don't. I'm not a massive fan to be honest. The patriotism and in sports like cycling. You know it's an individual sport and they're not doing it to represent a country relate but i couldn't help but feel really really primarily irish. You know what i just couldn't help findus really happy that they've done and coming from such a small country and thinking of all the kids growing up up in ireland he'll see that and see that as a target that they can im- for is just so inspirational and it becomes aspirational and it was just wonderful and seeing the two of them together are with their arms around each other at the end nico with his arm around at sam and the irish jerry i do know is this really cute so i just wanted to put them on a mental taste like sean kelly and stephen roach over again. I wonder what impact will have back in orland. I mean you you know donmar nichols roach sam bennett being law of succession last decade. I wonder what impact is having back home well. It's a funny thing because i do think the irish media tend to pick up an awful lot on the doping stories and maybe not so much on the success when nico into red there was barely an article in the paper is back home which i find really sad <hes> i didn't check today. I haven't had time hoping there's has been more of a foster by the two of them together but i think you know obviously within cycling communities that will have a massive impact though it was funny touting decided yesterday. I said you know who you're here going up when he said well. I should say sean kelly but he was just a sports centre to me. When i was a boy you know i'm not actually then gets through on the grind it well do these days. He's obviously because media is totally different but i think the key really would be if the paper start to embrace. This is a story in media starts embrace it as a story and and lose thanks nutshell an understandable suspicion and negatively that is associated with cycling in ireland <hes> not cycling in ireland but it just seems to be particularly irish i think i don't know why do wonder whether it's because the festina affair broke when the tour de france within dublin. I know that that was in one thousand nine. Hundred is a long time ago. Oh now but not really about really damage cycling in orland. I think it did and i think it's no coincidence that the prominent journalists who've been enchanting dynasty doping stories and david walsh and paul hamm age both being irish. I think they're seen as champions of clean sport then back in ireland on maybe the little guys taking it to the big guys and showing them that they will find the might cut kind of things. I think that's being taken onto the national. Kohl's and i knew that there on national national radio a lot not a and whatnot so i think yeah you're probably right. Probably dole is stem back to stena these things take a long time to to go away away and it takes a long time to change a national psychic. I do think the likes of neko with the heritage that he has the likes of sam the kid little fast and you know he's just so he comes across as an ascent you know and i think that's a ridiculous statement to make inside. I mean isn't it very very superficial sense but i meaning to general public you know being from the side. Maybe not so interested in signing dote. Maybe understand the background yet. I think those people who will pay us through that sort of cycle. I hope so he's done brilliantly this year. Bennett hasn't he when we think back to daniel's conversation with him at the one hundred training for the star of the away he couldn't hide eight. He's real disappointment having been told very early that he wouldn't be doing the jared italia which he does so well in winning three stages last year and even even i wasn't confirmed he wouldn't do the tour with peter again on the team can always very unlikely and he's got to wait a long time for a grand tour this year and you can't you can't offer more aw than when i stage suits talent and to be one of the most successful bike riders in the world this year he's had tan grunter. Sorry world chair wins. This is his twelfth win yesterday. Only julian felipe had more wins than him coming into the well to his captors head diners kept his nose clean and he's worked really really hard on is on course to be the most successful sprinter of the year which is phenomenal given that he didn't have a spot until it was really hard and and we wit see what's going to happen but i i got whispers of a case overnight ongoing between some bennett bora hans grue- sam is desperate to leave. The team bought a bora trying to force him to stay on on for next year. Even though new contract is being signed but there's no there's no precedent or legal framework for fan bennett undercurrent quickstep dabhol bring him out of the opinion that just waiting to be done waiting for the opportunity to to sign the contract. What is the best case scenario four bennett that there is a team. They're waiting in the wings to take him whenever it is all resolved but it it it's a legal case to that has to be resolved before he's allowed to speak to other teams teams yet. I think i understand it was maybe something at the start of the year. Maybe an offer that was made on condition of something or other that i know the full l. details of it but there's clearly some legal basis for bore of being able to take a case against sound bennett. He's hopeful the he'll be able to extricate himself from that because he hasn't yet signed any contract for next year and like i say the best thing for him because late in the season teams filling their rosters especially ashley was sprinters gas with all caliber writers <hes> is that there is a team waiting to take them when it is resolved because otherwise this drags on and on everyone's vicks are phil. He's got nowhere to go l. other than to stay with maybe they're hoping for our think if nothing signed and there's nothing in writing a good agent okay mauban well. It's interesting that daniel because all clearly has a bit of intelligence about this wrangle with bora supposedly a a a an extension the bean agreed but not signed and there's now maybe a bit of a tug of lava bennett but but i was talking off the record some cunning quickstep people today and well. They think that it's more or less done deal like just to get get the lid off the pan and sign the contract but who knows i mean the quick stat of one today. Are you with another young sprinter but they do have a sprinting gap with v._r. Nick our so who knows but my money would be on <hes> bennett going current quickstep and getting sorted out yeah i think so another another <hes> fats to consider long term quickstep on and specialized bikes and he's been on special spice this year i spoke to somebody who saw the year bound by an important technologies sickly sprinters and yeah he felt that he was already on the faucet spike in the peleton and he's on specialized next year presumably feel the same again well. Do you remember when mark communist made fairly oblique come about not being able to compete because he didn't you know the bike wasn't quite an owner only riders. He mentioned that he couldn't compete with were on a specialized bike so clearly there. Is something something i'm well. The sprinters were need to worry about the bikes are on tomorrow because we finish up have embry not climb mino climbed. Many of the ride is no because the wealth is not been there before correct. Lonzo has never been to alto the columbia. I'm quite intrigued by the theme park. I think the same kind of thing part goes or visitor center cool galactica. The bottom of the climb galactica article of course was a was a word used in spanish <hes> in connection with the in association with around madrid team. The football team was an awful references with the buffalo not here <hes> madame toussaud's but for real madrid. They'll be like zedong waxwork feek waxwork. I i think it's to do with astronomy but asian observatory there isn't it there is <hes> and the anyway the galactic theme park galactic os as far riseborough madrid were concerned being the sort of world starred the kind of absolute stella names. The florentina paris madrid president was absolutely determined into sign every year well who will be the collect toco tomorrow night who will be read. I hate these predictions speculation guesswork but what do you recognize to be <hes> superman or night oman. Okay well before we go say thank you to some of our friends of the podcast who who have supported us by signing up to listen to our collection of special episodes starting with our grand tour diaries from last year and the most recent one is a lunch with chat that i had with john waters during the tudor france and all we're very grateful to all of our friends in the podcast for your support but we are going to mention a few people this evening being thank you very much to matthew brown karen pollock neil aitken sam cooper christopher metcalf and lewis morrison and to end simpson on the south gordon mcbain vein james hughes keith worn on michael miskelly. I'm thank you very much daniel. Unfortunately we didn't we forgot to get them really difficult. Who tricky english names we need. We need some kind of yorkshire. Name pronounced completely differently to how power just to fox you well. I got pulled up by someone and i won't go into detail on this survey sore subject. I got pulled up by someone <hes> about taddei paul gotcha today the slovenian prodigy ajay who wasn't a tour of the alcohol california. This is great for me because there's nothing better than the squeaky clean getting done by the pronunciation police now. <hes> wasn't wasn't impressed with that and i always explaining to some of the members of the some of the staff at u._a._e. Emerets paul gotcha team yesterday that his first nine today is basically pronounced like today in a company accent tad. I not more ozzy that's more. That's more today in a noisy axum. I'm not saying anyway three points on your pronunciation license today daniel excellent news. I mean nine more points a two day ban. 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The Disturbing Disappearance of Tara Calico

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The Disturbing Disappearance of Tara Calico

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And it's right it goes along with end big time trigger warnings on this one. if you. Have family members who have been sexually assaulted or kidnapped or if you have children. That you care about at all and they're even safe in your home. This might be pretty upsetting for you. As it was for me. Yeah, it is. It's a very sad case just in of itself when we were talking about the disappearance of girl who was nineteen at the time her name is Tara Calico and she disappeared in New Mexico from the area she lived and just that just the fact that she's she's never been found like she basically vanished almost without a trace That's just sad enough in the more you dig into the story it's very sad but it also has some like. Just. Extra couple of layers that your average like true crime missing person probably murdered person story does that make this case like? One of the most fascinating. Recent, true crime cases. I can think of. Yeah. Yeah I know you didn't like this one at all. Now. It was pretty upsetting. So you feel like you can make it through this one. I think so. It should be a laugh riot. As usual. So Chuck Assist Kinda give some background on this case for everybody who's not familiar okay. Yeah. Here's the deal and. help us put this together and he takes great pains to point out. quite a few times that. We don't know exactly all the facts, but we know what we know from accounts from two tars mom and from some other family members and a little bit from the case files although don't think all of those are available still. But I, I don't know I saw otherwise like that's that's the problem with true crime is like especially in the age of the Internet stuff just piled on with weird facts that may or may not be true and you know down to the down to like are the case files still intact that kind of thing. But yeah. So so I think your larger point is where we don't exactly know all the details, right? Yeah. What we? Do Know is that in one thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, and September twentieth she went for a bike ride she was athletic and took these very long bike rides anywhere from fifteen to thirty something miles on a regular basis she was in one thousand, nine years, old smart, smart young woman, and a student at University of New Mexico and living in a place called I guess Belen New Mexico B.. E. L. E. N.. took her Berlin Berlin I. Think. So yeah, I think I heard somebody say it like that. Okay. And she left it nine thirty for this bike ride and was last seen. At eleven forty, five on highway forty seven, which is kind of the standard route that she usually took apparently. Yeah and they're just a couple of other details about Taro She was like you said, she was an intelligent person believe she was a sophomore at at in college and she was studying psychology or psychiatry wanted to I don't think she decided yet but she was in the field of psychology and she was a bank teller to and when she headed out that day. is very widely reported that she told her mom if I'm not back by noone come looking for me i. saw that mostly reported that she had said it Kinda playfully jokingly ingest that kind of thing not that she had set out that day. Going knowing that she was going to meet her her grim fate but that she had a Walkman with her too and that she was playing Boston and I can only assume because she was out for a bike ride that she was listening to Boston self titled Debut Album, which has don't look back in it, which would be excellent for riding your bike to. In. One thousand, nine, hundred, eight, maybe so. New. It could have been there several that they released afterward. But Austin she's listening to Boston just remember that that's and Her Mom's bike her huffy bike and she had a white t shirt. First National Bank of Belen. And White Shorts Green Stripes white socks, tennis shoes, a butterfly ring with a diamond insert, a amethyst stone ring, and then earrings have half inch loop hearings Yup and she was last seen chuck from what? I from what I understand on her way back from her bike ride along highway forty, seven about I think like eleven forty five am or something like that and then that. was that was it like she was just riding along listening to her headphones last time she was seeing the only other detail that ads like a a very cryptic twist to that last sighting is that she was reported being followed. It looked like by old timey truck like one from the fifties I think afford truck like some weird color like a a dirty grey or something like that. Yeah and the the cops, and there there'll be a few different people working on this case as is usually the case when it's missing persons different agencies involved. But in this case Valencia County Sheriff Romero his name is Lawrence Romero. He said that they found some bicycle tracks about four miles south of where she lived and it looked like to them that they the bicycle had been dragged off the side of the road and then back and they immediately thought that was pretty suspicious, and then when you put it together with the the details of this pickup truck, then it was all of a sudden a pretty serious case to them. Right yeah. I mean because you know. If if you can't find a girl she doesn't show up home when she says she's going to and she makes that joking cryptic thing of course, it's going to terrify your mom and it did terrified him her mom's name was Patty Dole and Patty was married to John Dole and through John. Torre had to step siblings Chris. Her brother and her sister subsequent Michelle and just immediately patty was very very worried when Tara didn't show up at home and then once the once the evidence started coming in, she got increasingly worried and probably the most tragic figure in this entire story Is Patty because from the moment like she started to get worried till the day she died in two, thousand, six she was worried she was overwrought by this like it just took over and consumed her. But one of the things to our credit for sure as we'll see. Is that she didn't dislike collapse and buckle in and give in which she would have. It would have been very understandable. Had she done that she instead channeled a lot of that fright and worry and concern into action and spent like the most of the rest of her life working tirelessly trying to figure out what happened to her daughter find some evidence bringer home i. don't think she ever gave up the the the idea that that Tara might still be out there or at the very least bring bring her killers to justice. Yeah. I'M GONNA I'm GonNa go with our after the most tragic figure in the story but. It was very sad. What happened with her mom She died in two thousand six. Never getting any answers her biological father died in two thousand two. Her Stepfather. You know like anyone still holds out hope although he you know He. Readily admits this is from one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, and the chances are almost zero that anything is ever going to come to fruition about this but he did have She did have family that was looking out for her you know basically the rest of their lives. Yeah for sure inner sister Michelle is still carrying that on like after Patty died in two thousand, six Michelle kind of took over. Patty's role of just trying to figure figure out what what happened trying to keep the story of the case in the press and actually while she was alive Patty and her husband, John managed to get deputized by the Valencia. County sheriff's so they were. They were actually. allowed to carry guns they were allowed to contact other law enforcement agencies on behalf of the Valencia County Sheriff's Department to to investigate the case That's the kind of like the level of dedication that they went to Pretty pretty cool that that's you know how they channeled that. Yeah. The the sweet late eighties when you needed to be deputized to carry gun. Right exactly because when I read that I was like. It really took that back then. New Mexico man they have it locked down out there. So as far as clues go there pretty scant that's one of the most frustrating things about this case. There are reports that they did find a Boston cassette tape a few miles from where she lived on that highway, and then a piece of a Walkman at a campground nineteen miles away. that is seems like a bit of a stretch to me. It was a long way from highway forty seven but you never know but there wasn't any like they didn't prove did. that. That was her tape or part of her walkman or anything like that. No they didn't but the. I saw in a couple places. This is one of those examples of the facts getting convoluted I. saw that the Boston tape was found with the front of her Walkman, the same location and then also I saw that it was found elsewhere. So who knows but that is like one of. Even that one tangible fact is still questionable and you can't even necessarily link it directly to her like you were saying and that was it. But that that's all that was found. They didn't find either of her rings. They didn't find her shoes they never found her bike. They never found anything except for those bike tire marks which seemed to be like a bike being dragged rather than ridden and then that Boston tape and maybe not a piece of the the Walkman and again, who knows if that was her stuff or not and they searched like like they searched the area pretty pretty thoroughly from what I understand. Yeah I mean anytime, there's a missing persons like this you. Have the big line of people marching through the woods. It's one the saddest things that you can see in a movie or TV show and I can't I've never seen one in real life never wanna see one in real life but it's to one of the saddest things you can witnesses people literally combing a field or the forest for for the body of somebody for sure so. This well, should we take a break? Yeah I think it's break time. All right. Let's take a break here. 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This pickup truck thats vehicle number one in this case that you need to sort of take note of vehicle number two is a white van with no windows which those are always a little bit scary. This was in nineteen eighty nine June fifteenth so less than a year after her disappearance, in Port Saint Joe Florida, and wait a minute chuck. Howard. Have White Van Import Saint Joe Florida a year later have anything to do with the disappearance of Tara Calico a year earlier in New Mexico. Well, it may or may not but there was a little piece of evidence potentially that was left behind. This woman comes out of the convenience store at the van drives away, and then she looks down and notices polaroid on the ground that looked like it was inside of a white van. I think they later determined it was in fact from inside of Van. And on the inside of the van, it was taken from outside looking through the side door probably were a couple of kids on some blankets and pillows young boy around ten and a young woman that looked like she was probably mid to late teenager and they were look to be bound their hands behind their back of a you couldn't see rope necessarily but I don't see why you would. Assume anything else they had duct tape over their mouth. and they were kind of well tanned and it's pretty pretty disturbing messed up picture. It's an extremely disturbing picture It's it's. It's a alarming actually like when you see this, it sinks in what you're looking at. It's. Deeply alarming picture. Especially when you realize that like this is real this was really found in junior food store parking lot in one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine, import, Saint Joe Florida like some poor lady like came across this picture was I'm sure just terrified and the picture is is significant enough that the moment they found it in like was it was reported to authorities they started setting up roadblocks around the county Gulf County Florida. To try to find this white van that the the the woman who found the picture head had seen parked in that parking spot when she came when she went in, it was gone when she came out and found the picture So like it was, it's a very alarming picture and a lot of people said I think that's Tara Calico and the reason that Tara Tara Calico. Her family found out about it is because a family friend had seen it on a current affair like this photo was so l'armee and so sinister Also so inexplicable to it was not immediately traced anybody it was not knowing came out immediately. It was like, Oh that was a hoax. We were just kidding that kind of thing that I ended up on TV and very quickly. I guess Tara Calicoes Mom had seen the the current affair episode and said, that's that's Tara and so for from that moment on in nineteen eighty nine until today it's that photos forever been linked to the Tara Calico case whether that's tar not. Yeah, and there were a couple of other points about this picture clearly visible next to the young woman was the V. C. Andrews Book My Sweet Adriana V. C.. Andrews flowers in the attic and those kind of disturbing horror slash I guess I mean I don't know if they were horb it they're they. Most of those books were about bad things that happen to kids. Yeah Yeah for sure and those see horrors is apt. Yeah. Horror Books and the other thing is that the young boy in the picture family immediately, Kinda came forward and said Hey we think that that is our son Michael Henley he disappeared on a camping trip in New Mexico in nineteen eighty eight as well. And I am just as the mom talking said, basically, I'm sure that's him That was later kind of found out to not be true because about a year after that, they found his body death to exposure. So it became pretty clear that he got lost in the woods and died out there. Yeah. Because his body was found not very far from the camping site that he disappeared from. So the chances that he had been abducted from that camping site kept in a van taken to Port Saint Joe Florida, and then take him back to New Mexico or even just abducted and and kept in new. Mexico the chances are pretty slim chances are far higher that he wandered off and died of exposure, and that's the coroner finally came up with to a rule. This is Michael Henley's death but the fact Michael Henley disappeared in New Mexico and Tara. CALICO disappeared in New Mexico and that the two people the the young woman in the boy in this picture resemble those to just. His like I said, it's inextricably linked that photo to this This case and Tara's mom apparently said forever that that she was sure that that was her daughter There's a discoloration on the girl in the photos leg that tars mom said matched her daughter's scar from a car accident that she'd gotten in and I believe her sisters said also, she said I if you had to ask me if I had to say, yes or no. If that's tar in the photo, I would say, yes but I also realize that you know this that that makes zero sense that doesn't. It just doesn't make sense for this case but that photo chuck feel like. You know a lot of people link that photo to this case but that photos not even you guaranteed to be real there's a lot of points that people have raised over the years that say I don't know if this is actually a photo of what a what it seems to be depicting. I'm not sure I, agree with any of those points either to be honest well, one of the big ones is that it's never been matched to any missing person ever. No one's ever come forward on the one hand and said, this is just a hoax. We were just kidding You can call off your search but on this and on the other hand, no one's ever said, this is this is that boy that girl that's missing so it seems unlikely that a family would be unaware of that picture family that had taken that picture as a hoax it'd be unaware of it and not come forward but it's doubly unlikely that two different families with two different kids that have been abducted would not be familiar with that picture would be like that's our son. That's our daughter, right? That's a big one to me. Yeah. There was another one where someone said that her legs appeared to be shaved and I think some people might surmise that that would be unusual for induction victim. Yeah. I don't buy that but that's what some people think evidently. Okay there's also if you look closely the the the people in the photos shoulders aren't distressed, right? They're not in like a stress position they're actually kind of relaxed and if the if they were bound because remember the bindings aren't aren't visible in the photo if they were bound, their shoulders be pinned back further than they are in that photo. So it suggests that they might not actually be banned right? That's possible I guess. And then the last one I saw was the tape that it should be much redder around the tape on their faces than it is if they've been wearing that tape for any significant amount of time. I don't get that one I don't know why the it's assumed that they had to be wearing the tape for a significant amount of time because they were wearing it in the picture. Well I don't know that it's saying like like, Oh, well, that proves that they weren't actually abducted or being held hostage I. Think what they're saying is that suggests they did it just recently been put on yeah which I believe if someone was going to. Open the door to the van to take a picture of two bound children that they had snatched. They would probably put tape over their mouth for they opened. The door would be my guess the the thing to me the one point of all that that that just strongly suggests to me that that picture is not actually real is that it is never since being discovered in one, thousand, nine, hundred nine since being broadcast on A. Current Affair Oprah America's most wanted being all over the Internet that no one has managed to link it to either the the boy or the young woman in that picture to a missing person no one no one besides the Tar calicoes family besides your family has come forward and been like, no. No, that's our daughter that that to me says that I'd I don't know I I think it's I think it might be. A hoax I guess I hate that word these days. But I think that's what it is. Yeah and we also didn't point out that the tars mom said that that book in the picture was her favourite book. So you know who knows it was definitely a an interesting piece of evidence if that was her favorite book. Do. You think that that was Tara Calico in the picture do you think you just think that the picture was real? That was a necessarily her. I didn't study it and I don't want to go on record for having an opinion on whether or not that was her. Okay Fair enough yeah One thing we do know though is that you know this, this picture like we said is it's alarming effects that the F. B. I. involves broadcast on national television employed. It was a poll ray one of those the ones that you wave in the air to develop in just a few minutes. It was that kind of polaroid I'm polaroid analyzed it, and said this this film this was taken on his film stock was available until May of nineteen, eighty nine so that that could that picture couldn't have been taken before May of nineteen, eighty-nine So. That's the picture and it's not necessarily connected to the Tara Calico case although as far as the world is concerned especially the world of online sleuths it is in some way or another always going to be connected to the Tara Calico case from now on yeah and there were some other pictures over the years that have come out that. are also not connected yet somehow connected because of the Internet and there was There was one that was a couple of people joking around on a train looks like a young woman and a guy a little bit older in to me. It just looks like two people goofing around on a train for sure I'm not sure why so sinister the other one is another young woman with tape over her mouth, and there's a similarity similarity to the strike pillow is that polaroid and it was found in California at a construction site, but you can't You can't really identify much about her at all and I think the only reason it's connected is because hey, it's another picture of a young woman with tape on her mouth. Yeah. It looks vaguely like her and that's that's not like if you go on to read it or web salutes or any of these online forums this case, there's at least. Several other photos that have been associated over time that seemed to just be like here's a amateur be DSM photo that somebody took and I found somewhere I think that's Tara Calico, and this is evidence rather than this is just somebody's picture from. A wild Saturday night or something like that. Right for sure Internet definitely has that affect for sure. 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The truck that he's referencing is that truck that was supposedly following her when she was last seen like eleven forty five am that's right. And that she was killed later on maybe because she threatened to call the cops or something and that there could be a couple of extra people involved in this case. Right. So he said, but I'm not going to be arresting anybody because we have a body and I want to have a body So I'm just GonNa sit here and hold press conferences instead and John Dole Taurus Stepfather's came out publicly. That was the dumbest thing I've heard in a very long time like. Okay if you if you want like an airtight case and you need to find tars body to do that fine but. Don't publicize everything else. You know because to John Dole. That was it seemed like a bit of a warning to the to the suspects that were out there at the very least just seem foolish to him or a waste of time and the thing is, is that Sheriff Rivera who I believe is still Valencia County? Sheriff hasn't made any arrests since that press conference in admittedly tars bodies not been found. That just does seem like a weird thing to do. So that was kind of like one of the first things that that Kinda reinvigorated this case. That had managed to be kept alive over the the nineties but really started to kind of come back in the two thousands in you know multiple lights have been shown on it. But even beyond like you know somebody doing a story on it or a follow up or an interview with her sister brother or something the the police investigations into kind of like peaks increased interest in the two thousands well. Yes. So now a character enters name Melinda SQL and she is a blogger and podcast her, and I guess one of these sluice and had done a lot of work on this case and apparently at one point, and this was in about two thousand ten was at least said she was working on a documentary film about Tara. And that she had information on the body and that she was being followed and that threats were being made. So in two thousand, ten State Police Officer in New Mexico author. Ortiz he was brought in for a meeting about this case mainly because of what was going on with bell in her research and what she said. Yeah. She said she's getting death threats, right? Yes. So that, that actually kind of reinvigorated this case well, it almost did Ortiz started to kind of look into it a little more, but was eventually told like, Hey, that's Valencia county sheriff's case, and just leave it to them. So we're going to reassign you and that was that apparently the death threats were I. Guess It was death threats that Melinda Escobar said she was getting enough to make her move to La and then later on she came back and started. Investigating the case again with Michelle does Tara stepsister and they released a podcast called vanish the tear the Tara Calico story about this investigation that was I believe revealed some new some new facts and definitely piece a lot of stuff together. Yes a back in two thousand, ten when Ortiz. Got This information. He met with share Rivera and Rivera for his part said, you know what? those a thorough investigation we identified three possible suspects. One of them is dead now and I also got some information about where this body might be and basically There's who was Captain Dong Dong. Sounds Fun. I guess worked alongside Rivera is that what it was? It was kind of hard to tell that was what I got as well. I mean it's a quote from Ortiz and he's just kind of presuming everybody who's reading this quote understands who kept doncaster's maybe it's share for Rivera's imaginary friend or something captain it does sound like that it neither be one joke in here. So don guess advised advise them that there was a you know dig basically at this location where they thought the body was and that they didn't find anything but they did. They did dig for the body at this place right and then like I said are teased basically gets moved off of the case because he's state police in. This is Valencia county's turf So so that was that was kind of like a that was two, thousand ten, and that was some some new fresh blood investigation injected into the case and then in two thousand, thirteen the state police interviewed a guy named Frank Mythology who is a former deputy with Valencia County Sheriff's Department He's not any longer. He apparently was kind of drummed out of the the sheriff's Office possibly for stuff that was unrelated to that I saw he was arrested while he was still a sheriff's deputy because he had failed to appear in court for causing a crash in a neighborhood during like a high speed chase interesting. Yeah. So it's possible that something like that led to his dismissal, but regardless, he came forward after he was no longer a. and Said Hey while I was a deputy, I interviewed this guy named Henry Brown and Henry Brown was said he was dying and he needed to get something off of his chest and he he gave an official statement and the statement from what I understand definitely exists and has been verified. This isn't just like hearsay, but that Henry bound said. I was friends with this guy his and his name was Lawrence, Romero, junior, and Lawrence. Romero junior was not a he was a bit of a he's not. He's not a good guy necessarily from what I understand but he was the Sheriff Son Lawrence Romero junior at the time that that all this happened that Tara Calico went missing He was the sheriff of Valencia County and Henry. Brown said, I. Was Friends With Junior and one day I was hanging out at junior's house and the the subject of Tara Calico came up and before I knew it Lawrence Romero Junior, and another guy were admitting that they had killed her and that her body had been right there where we were sitting not too long before which they had moved her body after they started searching for, and then they took her and moved her to a pond later on and that's where she remains But that he definitely killed her and the reason why nothing ever came of it because he was the. Sheriff son, and that apparently was given That's that statement was given written down and taken into into the record a- by the Valencia County Sheriff's Department yet, and apparently some of these guys were involved with dealing drugs and that may have had something to do with it There was also a report in that statement that it was sort of a conspiracy in that that deputy Rivera had their backs was direct. So you know maybe because the sun was in deep trouble the deputy got involved and made sure that that sort of stayed buried. but again, this is you know. A think to call this hearsay is pretty pretty accurate, but it's also a pretty juicy deathbed story which you know these these always play well in these kind of cases for sure I. also saw that there was another guy who who gave a third hand confessional secondhand confession like that said that Lawrence, Romero junior confessed to him as well and Lawrence Romero junior died in nineteen ninety-one from. A self inflicted gunshot wound and it's not clear whether he died by suicide or other people say that he was playing Russian roulette very foolishly and it did not go so well. But either way he died in Nineteen ninety-one within a couple of years of Tarik Holocaust disappearance So at the time again, his father was share for of Valencia County and this deputy Rivera Really, had the the The Romero's backs became sheriff later in now still share for Valencia County from what we understand and woods we're though is a lot of that statement jibes with Rivera's. Weirdo press conference that he held in two thousand eight that that these these kids had you know she is being folded into trunk she was or Bhai truck she was bumped from behind she was killed the the the People's family help them cover up the crime he just stopped short of saying who it was and that was just very odd if he was the one that was helping covered things up to have that press conference is a is a very odd thing to do if you're in on it, you know. Yes the the one thing we did mention earlier this pretty important to if you think back to that polaroid If. You're asking yourself like surely they analyze this thing for real and it's not just up to Internet people to compare photos. There were a few different organizations that I looked into it and they. Very frustratingly one said, yes we think that's her one said, no, that's not an one said, well, we can't be sure. So that just leads to the frustration to literally have three. Groups looking into this in each of them have a different take on it kind of leads you back to nowhere. For, sure and if it's frustrating for US surfer the Web sleuths, whoever's listening think of what it's like for the family you not to hear. You just rather hear everybody say yes or everybody say no to have it just inconclusive like that or contradictory got to make it so much harder. When you put all the pieces on the table, which one makes more sense that she was killed locally and it was up by some local families who had the ability to cover it up or that she was abducted and ended up somehow in a polaroid in Port Saint Joe Florida a year later and I think that's what her sister was saying where shoe saying if I look at this photograph, I know that it's Torah but also realized that that explanation makes the least sense of all of the explanations around there. Right? So the the case is still ongoing in two, thousand, nineteen, the FBI apparently out of nowhere released a a twenty thousand dollar reward for information on the Tara. CALICO case no one apparently has any idea what prompted them to do that or why they did it but it's out there. So if you know anything about Tara Calico disappearance and you WanNa make a cool twenty grand get in touch with the FBI or don't even do it for the money two for the humanity. How about that? Yeah. and that's it You got anything else got nothing else well, then I guess that's it for the Tara Calico case hopefully for now, and I said that it's time for a listener May. I'M GONNA, call this math. Math math. was hoping you're going to ignore this. You hadn't seen it at all. Well, I don't even know if I mean if this person is right, this could be one of those great wins were then someone corrects the correction, there would be great but we'll sign somebody Hey, guys listening to one eight hundred podcast and responding to Chuck's anticipation for correction of Joshua's Matt. Josh your competence in certain senior math or charming and inspiring and I appreciate it when people say something with conviction. Now, onto the sour part Josh, you almost had the math, right. But for some reason, you stated that the last seven digits range from technically one million to nine, million, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, nine, this retreat than you would be correct in your calculations. But according to what I can find that does not seem to be the case, the SEC website toll free number spells out prefixes which are available, but it does not provide a restricted range available for the last seven digits If you enter zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero zero as the last seven digits to check. that. If a number is available, there is no information about that being an invalid option. I'm not quite sure. I. Follow for example, I checked one, eight, three, three all Zeros in it said that it was available. So then that brings us the range from all Zeros to all lines which provides us with ten million not nine million Sorry. Josh. So when you multiply that by seven prefixes, you get seventy million COMBOS, seven times nine, million, sixty, three, million, not fifty, four, million. The. Only reason that I'm sending this e mails not to draw attention to a will actually. You did the math wrong liar but rather because chuck drew attention to it. So blame him Josh Okay all right I'll go with that. Can I blame you both sure I think that's most appropriate and that's from no in Philadelphia. We saw you guys at the Bell House my sister, and I saw you for her twenty fifth birthday. Please, give a shoutout to Becca ends up on the show. So hello, becca happy very belated birthday Becca well, she's had another one since then. have. Birthdays I. Guess We do the Bill House in October so it's coming up. In Twenty twenty who knows? well, thanks a lot. No and thanks to you and Becca for coming to see us live. Eventually, we will be out there live again can't wait Yes it'll be nice. So keep an ear out. 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Looking back at victory in Brugge ahead to Valencia and latest transfer updates

"Welcome back to the Madrid podcast. Everybody and don't forget you can catch up with all of the latest episodes by the website it's www till it's real matric. PODCAST DOT COM now. Coming up. Today will round up. What's been making the news? Headlines will look back at the Champions League Victory Imbruglia yesterday and ahead into the weekend meeting with Valencia so victory in Brugere concluded the Champions League group stage. For this year's Dan rotated his squad as expected and there was a subtle reminder on the night from the Komo Aldridge third he still has a significant contribution to make good positive Audrius. Salat Griego didn't need a touch. The control didn't steered US US time. So I currently inside media lays right. How Pars ritual milk in his water bowl is one of the right for the white you to pass to the full box? Exceptional gets a little bit lucky because it takes a deflection of Sobel his Bach. But the finish agreed I was absolutely outstanding for our and here's steady on. That's gone the clips beyond Ariola won't touch together. Footed remember Hans for Rock and sleep with his rightful row draped window center and then bruised frowned reply Swinton by Casimiro down by Yovich Chester robbery. Go honey so as a practiced crown finish Vinicius Aldridge awesome go camping outstanding performance tonight. He's he's still got his challenging. SASON full class. Never lacy look to moderate his conferred Brown trey what it was a truly outstanding night for Luca. Moderate she said after the game we played. Well we deserve to win here it. It doesn't matter to us who comes next. There are no easy Games in Champions League. We do have a week ahead of us. We want to continue as we are an end and the year on a positive note. We all converted into An. I hope this will be showed in the next two games as for the Code Dan. He said we must continue you to play like this. We are playing exceptionally well at the moment. I'm not worried about who is coming up on. What is coming up? We are ready on Yovich Ritchie said. Look he doesn't look lost. He certainly isn't a loss player. He had a good game here. The truth is he said he's played little players need to play a lot got to get their best form he has to keep working. The problem is mine. Not His he has to work and respond when it's his to play a game pressed iced on who they could potentially make it would be liveable. He said well we meet. We'll beat them all set with a smile on his face moving on good night light for Venecia's as well. He scored his first goal since mid-september and he had a response to those who feel that he's finished before he's even started at Madrid adrit on ever thought about leaving rounder it. He said I am not leaving. Real Madrid even on loan. Not Worried about the goals. I play to help the whole team. I'm not just score goals. I let Brazil very very early in my career and I working odd to do great things. He of course plenty of headlines today. Speculation relating about who Real Madrid could face in the round of sixteen the likes of Liverpool. You ventas by a Munich. Manchester City rb Leipzig names. The set set many would fair but just a quick look at Madrid's record with Dan. Gainst these clubs. The memories are good. Sit Down Steam of course remember beat livable in the final back in two thousand eighteen. You Venice Beach in in the same year in the quarter-finals by a Munich in Munich. You might remember back in two thousand fourteen. Let's scene of one of the the greatest away nights. They won four nil tonight to Gaza says your Ramzan to Cristiano Renaldo Manchester City were beaten in the semi finals in two thousand sixteen the Underneath Anita the Z.. Dan has never faced is Avi likes ICK now moving onto what's making transfer news headlines Donnie. Van Debate was is at the center of attention as I slipped to defeat against Valencia and Champions League which ended their Champions League campaign this year. He was immediately asked if he would now leave Amsterdam in January two thousand. It became clear that this was the only question that was going to be off. The I express office pulled from the press conference despite Dan's comments about Luca Yovich in his performance few in the media shed his views with most agreeing that even when when studying against Brugere he failed ready to show even moderate potential highlighted further by the fact of course that he scored one goal. This season alone move it. Zet would suit both parties and despite look a moderate outstanding performance in Brugge. It still doesn't mask the fact that thirty four wartime isn't on his side and finding out like for like replacement isn't going to be easy however one name is back on the agenda. It's that of Tiago alcon Alcantara by Munich flare so admired of course by Guardiola. Who took him there from Barcelona back in twenty thirteen fourteen now? He's ending his seven season season in Munich this year and has any one year left on his current contract remarkably as well. He's still only twenty eight and is reportedly told those close close to him but he wants a return to Spain media's again getting SOMAC- of a frenzy around pulled after revelations that he will spend some time. I'm in Madrid of the Christmas with some believing that that will be at least some form of meeting between the player and Z.. Dan Another who is of interest interest after continuing his impressive season so far. Is that a Taurus over at Valencia. Keep an eye out on him especially at the weekend. The nineteen year old Spanish under twenty-one International White Blah scored two goals in the last three games. His contract expires in twenty twenty one. And although there is a release clause in its entered one hundred million that would be significantly reduced in the summa if Valencia feared that he would walk twelve months later for free. Three coming up this weekend. It's will be the one hundred and eighty second meeting between Valencia and Rab Madrid Madrid looking for the ninety fifth victory of Valencia win. It will be a landmark date will be that fiftieth victory row Madrid but in recent times success has been really thin on the ground for Valencia. Since the three new home victory ten years ago there have been twenty two meetings Valencia of one just three old by the same school. I two goals to one all at home British and got I the scores lost season but Madrid of had some big wins six three back in twenty eleven five nil in two thousand thirteen a full one back in January of twenty eighteen. Valencia have celebrated the all big victory here a six goals to nil back back in June of nineteen ninety nine in the Culpa del Rey semi funnel that was cloudy Ranieri's team which had a few good plays in those days cloudier Lopez remember here Mendieta later and Glamour Cannizzaro. Zingo were a team that was taught shack actually was his opposite number that tech start the weekend down in seventh place place in the League along with Barcelona and Real Madrid. They do remain unbeaten at home. This season they have drawn. Four of the eight games. Played there the Mus style. Plus they've kept only two clean sheets at home as well. The only team to a one the Messiah this season was I actually won by three hills to nil in. The champions pins lead. The defense is the big problem there. Twenty three goals conceded all told this season which is the worst performance of any of the top ten clubs as for the players Daniel Pereira on six goals Maxi Gomez on six goals. The two leading scorers Barrio began his career. Of course ravidrums back in two thousand and six coming through the C team Castilla and actually played five times for Madrid as a substitute bizarrely after he returned from a loan. Loan spell at Queens Park. Rangers these Valencia now nine seasons and his performances over the last eighteen months have seen him return to the international the national fold. He's been camped out full international level by the Spanish National Team Uruguay Mexico still only twenty three years of age and in his first season season from Celta Viga also playing well. He scored thirty goals in Seventy Vigo before moving here in the some of the hopes are high for him and he started very well. Indeed looks like a good investment. The other player is another former Madrid. Play worth keeping an eye out for Rodrigo motorway. I know who got the winner in Amsterdam last night. He's the man to watch for assists as he's provided more of them than any other player for Valencia. This season six so far that just about sit up at four today. Don't forget you can listening to all of the previous hundred thirty plus episodes of this podcast via the website at www dont round the drip podcast dot com Ovalles. I tuned stitches spotify Google Anchor and a whole host of other platforms homes at that. I will be back next Tuesday as we begin to look ahead to out classic. Oh do enjoy the weekend. And I'll see you back here next week for me Tim capable bye bye for now.

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MISSING: Tara Calico

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MISSING: Tara Calico

"High Crimes Junkies I'm your host Ashley Flowers at I'm Grit and today I wanna tell you about a mystery in the Mesa's when a bright young college student rides away from home and vanishes into thin air investigators can only find the barest hint of what could have happened to her and that question still remains to this very day over thirty years later, this is the story of Tara Calico. Real Quick Crime Junkies. Before we jump into the episode, I wanted to make sure you realize that it's that time again just in case you're on the fan club not falling on social the Crime Junkie Merch store is open it's already been open to the fan club. So stock is Super Limited and it's going to be closing at the end of this week. So don't Miss your window everything is brand new. We have lunch boxes, we have scrunchy crunchies we have sweatshirts, sweatpants, t shirts so much great stuff. Make sure you get in there before the store closes or before we run out of stock, which happens every time but website is crime junkie podcast dot Com just click the MERCH TAB and make sure you snag yourself something before it's gone. All right now back to the story. On the morning of September. Twentieth. Nineteen eighty-eight a woman named Patty. Dole is at home with her daughter Tara in Bala New Mexico which is about a half hour south of Albuquerque Torres and nineteen year old sophomore in college at the University of New Mexico Valencia and she's living at home with her mom, her Stepdad John and her step sister Michelle in the Rio community suburb. Now, Taro's a really active girl she did track and cheerleading in high school, and now that she's in college, she still likes to stay busy playing tennis and she goes on these regular long long bike rides for exercise. So patties not surprised when Tara says that she's GonNa go on her daily bike ride that morning. Now, since his owned bike got a flat tire couple of days ago, she asked her mom if she can take her hot pink huffy ten speed bike out instead and patties like sure no problem. So around nine thirty that morning tar is getting ready to head out and she tells patty that she's going to be backed by eleven thirty because she's got to meet her boyfriend she has tennis game later and she has some college classes. Now she says, I'm not backed by noon please come get me and this may sound a little weird to say but Tara is really good at keeping a schedule and since she's already got plans that afternoon I mean she just wants to make sure that. She doesn't lose track of time like she wants to be punctual. So Tara says goodbye to her mom turns on her Walkman and sets off on her usual route along New Mexico state road forty seven. Now, Patty didn't love that Tara took this route so much because it's kind of isolated once you get outside of the neighborhood plus one time when Patty went biking with. Tara one morning along this same exact road she swears that they were being followed by a driver which freaked her out enough that she didn't WanNa go on a ride again now patty obviously like brought this up to Tara and she told her listen you at least need to be carrying Mace I. don't even really want you on this route at all but tars like no. MOM, you're paying ridiculous like we live in a safe place. This is a comfortable area. I'm nineteen, not nine and really isn't a huge amount that Patti can do about that. You know she says, you know I've I've always my concerns don't love it but Tara is an adult. Yeah. So that morning eleven thirty am comes and goes without any sign of Tara now obviously. This is back in the days before cellphones or even pagers. So it's not like they can just call or page like, Hey, are you on your way home? So Patty has to wait and really eleven thirty, one eleven thirty, five even eleven forty passes and pat he's not that worried yet after all a wouldn't be super odd for a bike ride to run a little bit. But taurus still doesn't come home by noon Patty decides to go out and look for her just like Tara had told her to do. Patty knew right where to look because like I said, Tara Bikes same route basically every day it's a seventeen mile stretch along state road forty seven heading southeast out to the railroad tracks away from Rio communities and then seventeen miles back. She drives up and down the road hoping to catch a glimpse of the familiar pink bike. But mile after mile after mile she sees nothing no sign of her daughter no sign of the bike. Is there any sort of like gas station or rest stop that she might have stopped at break? nope. There's nothing. So by now patties definitely starting to get worried because. We had super punctual person like she's always on time. She always keeps her schedule pretty tight but at the same time, Patty is still trying to stay logical and not immediately jump to the absolute worst conclusions. Now, the bike could've gotten a flat tires and things could have happened these things. Go wrong and she's probably going to see tar they're going to laugh about it later. But when Patty gets back home, her hopes are dashed when her worst fear start coming true. Because by the time she gets home having driven those seventeen miles there and back Tara still isn't there together with her husband John Who's Tar Stepdad they call the police to report her missing according to Ed Pierces reporting in the Albuquerque Journal law enforcement takes this case seriously right away and the search efforts get under way that Tuesday. They take Paddy Johns word that this is super out of character for Tara and beyond that all of tars friends. Say. The same thing this isn't Laker. She's so dependable. She would never just ride off and again she had plans why make your mom come look for you if you weren't planning on coming back the Valencia County sheriff's call in help from departments all across New Mexico we're talking the state police, the Bernalillo County sheriff's from Albuquerque they have bloodhound teams come in and they have a state search and rescue team all come to join in the efforts out searching on foot and horseback they even bring in some ATV's like this is a hard core search operation pretty much right off the bat and it pays off because that very. First Day Tara went missing searchers find some vital clues that make her family's hearts sink there right along state road forty, seven about four miles away from. Rio. Communities are bicycle tracks like the kind that would match the one she was writing. So without a bike to actually compare them to, it's a little hard to do a full analysis right away and say that one hundred percent this is hers, but it's definitely what they're thinking but the tracks didn't actually lead them to Tara or MOMS bike investigation discovery reported that the tracks look kind of spun out there must have been or could have been a struggle in that area. and. They also report that very close to the bike tire marks. They also find tire marks from a car along with a piece of broken tape player. Now, this tape player matched the same distinctive yellow, Walkman that Tara had and would always take with her, and if there was any doubt that it could be hers, they also found the cassette that had been in the walkman nearby. It was from the Band Boston and Patty and John are gutted because they know Tara loved to listen to music while she was out writing all of this had to belong to her and finding these things felt like a very bad sign. I mean. All of this looks like something not great. Happen was fighting this evidence able to help them narrow down their searches or find witnesses or anything. Oh yeah I mean because again, we started with the seventeen mile stretch of road. So we have a much more condensed area and police do find a handful of witnesses who say they saw a woman matching tars description the morning that she went missing there was a pair of ranch hands out working that morning and they tell law enforcement that they saw her heading north at about eleven thirty which fits right in with the timeframe of her being on her way home just like she. Promised now, this is helpful because again it narrows down our timeframe a little bit, but it doesn't get us a lot closer to Tara. So while police Valencia County, sheriff's are still out searching tars family isn't just sitting back and waiting patty and Michelle are all working tirelessly to recruit volunteers to help look for any sign of what might have happened Atara in order to bring her back home. The weather on Wednesday was really bad I mean bad enough that an air search gets grounded and much to Patty's dismay this is a really gross I mean Wendy rocket any and it's perfect to wash away all of evidence that they're probably. So desperate to find. But even with the weather setbacks, the Dole's don't give up and by Friday they've gotten over two hundred people to join in with a search for Tara according to the Albuquerque Journal ground forces are focusing on the east side of state road forty seven where it's more isolated, and while they're out searching other members of law enforcement are searching for more witnesses who might be able to shed some light on what happened that day and they get a break several more witnesses come forward and tell police that not only did they see Torah but they saw her being followed by an older model pickup truck with. A Shell Camper. This same witnesses say that Tara had her headphones on and she didn't seem to be aware that she might have been being followed, and if she wasn't aware, then how could she try to protect herself from whoever was behind the wheel of this truck now, even though these leads seem promising at bursts, none of these clues lead to anything solid not the Walkman, not the witness descriptions of the truck nothing and so all the Dole's can do is wait and keep grasping onto hope the months go by and like too many missing Person Cases Torres disappearance cools off and with no new leads the case eventually goes Colt. And then in the summer of nineteen eighty, nine Torres Stepdad gets a call that turns the investigation red. Hot. Fees episode was made possible with Stitch fix personally I kind of hate clothes shopping. You think you're a medium so you get the medium of the rack and it is wildly wrong sometimes big sometimes way too small and with. 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There is no subscription required and you can schedule at any time get started today at stitch fix dot com slash crime donkey and Hewlett twenty five percent off when you keep everything in your fix that's stitch fix dot com slash crime junkie for twenty five percent off when you keep everything in your fix stitch fix dot com slash crime junkie. July of Nineteen eighty-nine Taurus Stepdad John gets a phone call from one of his friends even over the phone he can hear how his friend is like super amped up. Super anxious. He's talking fast barely stopping to breathe and he saying something about watching the show a current affair and seeing a photo of Tara and instantly John's on high alert like now his heart is racing and he keeps asking what photo of Tara are you talking about like where the heck is this even coming from and the story his friend tells him is crazy and I have to tell you. So there's this woman at A. Convenience store all the way in Port Saint Joe in North Florida. This is on June Twelfth Nineteen eighty-nine. Now, she's in the parking lot of this convenience store and she sees a white van with a guy sitting in the driver's seat. It's just him nobody in the passenger side and this isn't a big deal at the time. But then when she comes back out of the store, the van is gone and there in its place is a polaroid picture lying on the ground she picked it up took one look at it and was so shocked that she knew she had to report it to police right away. And here but I'm GonNa send you this picture as a refresher is probably one of the most infamous pictures in the true crime communities. I'm sure you've seen it. I know we've actually talked about it in another case, but it might be good for you and for the audience to just get a little refresher. Oh. My God I definitely remember seeing this picture at some point in time it's a picture and you can't really tell where it's set but there are two people looks like a teenage girl and maybe a younger boy maybe like elementary school age. Yeah. The allegations a ten. And it appears that they're bound tape over their mouths. And they're both laying down on like a couple of blankets and pillows, and there's actually a book next to the girl right? I can't quite make out anything else and you can't see their feet in the picture right and you you like you know we're making the assumption that they're bound. But like their hands are behind their back, they're both by kind of laying on hands and their feet are out of the image. But like you said, they have duct tape on and I mean just like the looks on their faces. Are I think what? He has a very jarring photo. Yeah. It's chilling and actually this picture came up like I mentioned another case back when we were researching the Zachary Bernhardt case for one of our earlier episodes because for a moment police wondered if the boy in the picture was him now, obviously, that didn't end up like coming to any kind of conclusion but now this. Picture is back because you know it's been found in Florida and police in Florida, got to work like right away soon as this woman called them turned in this picture they're trying to identify the people in the Polaroid and the woman who finds the picture tells please everything she knows according to the thought catalog she described the driver as this guy in his thirties with a mustache. I, it's vague, but it's all they have an armed with this description of the guy and the van the police actually set up roadblocks right away for this person. But despite their best efforts, they can't find anything and they're you know working working days turn into weeks or trying to identify these people it's going anywhere. So when six weeks go by and the Florida police? Still. Don't have anything to go on. They turn to the public for help to see if anyone might recognize who's in this picture, which is how it got on a current affair where John's friend Saulat. So back in New Mexico when John Hears this story from his friend about seeing the picture on a in a fair about how this lady found it, he's instantly on high. Alert and according to people magazine. He calls the New Mexico police immediately and he and Pars Family Rush Down to Florida as soon as they can in their joined by the FBI who takes over as lead in the investigation and their first priority is to get that photo back to their lab for analysis, as you can imagine, just from looking at this picture this picture. At the time gets a ton of media attention all over the country because everybody wants to know who are these kids wear are these kids and are they even still alive because clearly they don't seem okay in this photo now, the tip start flooding in nobody can connect the boy and the girl with solid names until John. Dole calls the police in Florida and says, listen. Be Are Tara and I have a great like comparison. I. Want you to look at this picture of Tara and then look back at that Polaroid Oh my God. Yeah. I can totally see even of the colic in her bangs, which is kind of distinctive I think like. I don't disagree that. This could be hurt and Harris parents are even more confident and it's terrible because it's like there is hope and their darkest fears colliding like if that is Tara then it's wonderful she's alive or at least she was as of June but. Then, you have to wonder what's being done to her, and where is she now right now, patty is totally convinced that the girl in the polaroid is her daughter. She says, it is totally Tara without makeup and when she hasn't gotten a perm in a while and specifically she points to the scar on the girl's leg and she says that it matches a scar Tara has but even beyond the physical resemblance, Torres family says that there's something else in the photo that makes them even more certain of the woman's identity and it's That book that you mentioned, but you said that you couldn't tell but when the FBI you know blew it up and they even recognize just kind of the logo of the book because the book is called my secret Adriana by V. C.. Andrews and get this. The family is so familiar with what the book looks like and they can recognize it right away because according to Patty. That's Torres favorite book, and that's not only clue that the book has because according to the Albuquerque Tribune, there's a phone number scratched into the book's spine. The. Problem though is that law enforcement can't see all the numbers. Now, police have never said how many numbers they can see when I look at it I can hardly see anything. So I mean, obviously, they enhanced the image significantly and They didn't even say like, okay is this a number from Florida is a number from all over the country is at the first couple numbers the last couple numbers like we have zero details about this, all that they've ever said is that they were able to get over three hundred possible number combinations with what was visible and that only fifty seven of those were actual valid phone numbers which on the surface sounds like you know this may be like a great lead narrowing it down a little bit except none of. These numbers Pan out to viable leads and it's just another dead end. Okay. But what about the boy like if we are to believe that this is Tara do we have any idea who the little boy is? So initially yes they think that they do know who this boy is and this is where the photo starts to get even more mysterious because another set of grieving New Mexico parents Michael and Marty Henley they see the picture and they're like, oh my gosh this looks exactly like are missing son Michael Junior. According to an article in the Santa Fe New Mexican Michael was nine years old in April of nineteen eighty eight when he went missing from Oso Ridge up in Zuni mountains, which is in northwestern New Mexico and he went missing while he was up there with his dad on a camping trip to hunt Turkeys. Now, this area is about a three hour drive from where Tara went missing pretty much a straight shot about one, hundred, thirty, maybe one hundred and forty miles west depending on which route you take. Now just like with Tara, there was this massive search operation that didn't turn up any leads and Michael's case went cold until this fateful photograph turns. Up, and links these two families who never met who never had any other connections before together now something I think that is interesting about this though is that the Henley's and the Dole's actually react a little differently because we're patty is convinced and I mean one hundred percent dead certain that the girl in the photo is her Tara even though the F. b. i. analysis isn't totally done yet. The Henley's are a little more cautious and I don't know if it's like an emotional protection thing or what but they're just a little more reserved. Yes it looks a lot like their son but they are not willing to say it's one hundred percent him. Okay. So. I know that they disappeared within a couple months of each other. But is there any way to narrow down or like confirm that it's possible for these two have been together at the same time? So there's one way that they can do this and they actually want to research a little bit more into the polaroid. It's self to see you know you and I grew up with polarized to me. They've always been around but around this time right, they were fairly new and they knew that they could probably track even when that polaroid film was like made and distributed. So law enforcement reaches out to the Polaroid people to get this information and they find out that this specific type of film in the picture only became available in May of. Nineteen eighty nine. So the photo had been taken after that. So it's totally possible that these two in the could be Tara and Michael but even with that I mean again, it's just kind of confirming okay. Yes possibly. But the Henley's in the Dole's all they can do is wait because they have to wait for the expert analysis to come back from the FBI to give them the like definitive answers that they're looking for. But the problem is when the results do start coming back in the analysis isn't actually definitive. Now I know the photo gets taken to the Los Alamos National Laboratory, which is this like super renowned research facility in New Mexico, but actually seen different reports. About what they come up with. So according to the Albuquerque Tribune back in two, thousand, three, John and Patti say that the national lab told them that based on the ears and the hairline the girl is definitely Tara but in two thousand, eight, the Albuquerque Journal reported that the lab actually said no, it's not her. So I don't know who's version to believe or maybe like with additional time and testing at told them something different all those years later either way though there's no like pure consensus not from the National Laboratory or the FBI in August of Nineteen eighty-nine the FBI says while they don't think it's Tara they're not able to like one hundred percent conclude that way. Or the other that tars the girl in the picture and Patty can't accept that she won't accept that at some point and I wasn't able to clarify exactly when. But sometime during this agonizing summer of searching for answers, she actually gets Scotland. Yard. Over in the United Kingdom involved and they do another analysis of the picture adding to the confusion because Scotland Yard says Yup. It's definitely Torah and all of this back and forth is beyond heartbreaking but Patty and John Never give up even after the initial burst of publicity dies down and the perspective leads go nowhere because to patty she believes that her baby girl is alive and she will stop at nothing to bring her home. Tragically though for Michael Henley's parents they do bring their son home not alive but to rest his body was actually found in June of nineteen ninety up in the mountains about seven miles from where he actually disappeared and according to people magazine Michael died from exposure wait so he can't be going the picture. No, but. That doesn't change a whole lot because if it's not Michael I mean, that's still leaves the massive question of who it is well and I mean, you know me devil's advocate. We also have to consider the possibility that this photo. Is being fakes like, of course, it's a real picture but I'm remembering now reading into this a little bit when we did Zachary's case and didn't people magazine kind of pose the question like are those people in the photo really in distress? What do you mean? I mean like you said you can't really see if either of them have been tied up like you can't their hands, you can't their feet. They're kind of pose that way. There's no visible rope or handcuffs or. Anything and they aren't as like tensed up as you would expect I guess. Yeah. Makes Sense. I'm remembering article specifically mentioning how both boy and the girl don't have like redness around their mouths that they would have been there for a long time like irritating their skin. Plus people posing picture is nowhere near the end of the list of the weird things never learned so. I. Guess I don't know. Yeah, I mean it's not something that I put a lot of thought into or considered but I guess it's totally possible considering we still I mean to this day don't have one hundred percent confirmation of WHO's in that picture, but regardless faked or not. The image stays with the Dole's and haunted by this photo and their desperation for answers, Patti and John Stay I mean as involved as they can with the investigation and nineteen ninety-one, they actually go through the training to become auxiliary deputies with Valencia County Sheriff's department and I didn't know this is like a thing you could do. Sign me up. But I couldn't find Valencia county's requirements but I did get the current ones for a nearby county and basically you just have to pass a background check. You have to put in a certain number of hours go through this like Reserve Academy get law enforcement certification I mean it's not just like sign up I'm deputy a pretty intense process but at the end of all of this John and Patti can carry weapons they can talk to law enforcement agencies on behalf of the Valencia County Sheriff's department. So it basically gives them more access than the average citizen but still less than a police officer. Now with this new access patty gets pretty close to the old Valencia County Sheriff a man named Lawrence Romero because Lawrence actually. Lost a child over the course of the investigation he lost his son Lawrence Junior who died from suicide in nineteen ninety one. So they kind of bond over the great loss that they've each experienced and she becomes so close to the police like to point that tars brother Chris told people magazine in two thousand, eighteen that they actually sent her all kinds of materials. So she can help them with the investigation and I'm talking like super gruesome pictures of dismembered bodies to see if like by some off chance, it could be Tara and even though it kills her like deep down inside to look at these pictures, she's not able to stop. And, these are pictures that I mean it's hard enough for these seasoned officers to look at let alone grieving mother. In, the emotional state that she's in, but no matter what patty keeps looking agonizing over every single photo, they send hoping that it's not Tara. In two thousand, three, Patti and John left new. Mexico for a fresh start in Florida even thousands of miles away in the new state. The stress of tars disappearance weirs them down grinding away patties health and mental functions until she finally passes away in two thousand six, still waiting for tar to come home and still waiting for answers about what happened to her daughter. But it would have been two more years before any kind of answers would come in two, thousand, eight, just two years after PAT's death the new Valencia County sheriff goes on record with a shocking announcement. Episode was made possible in part with better help. Is there something interfering with your happiness or maybe something is preventing you from achieving your goals most days for me the main thing preventing me from achieving Michael's is my daughter's request for a third consecutive viewing of my ups. But let me tell you there are bigger scarier things interfere with my happiness out here in the world. Which is why I am so thankful to have better help. It's not a crisis line and it's not self help. It is professional counseling done securely online available for clients World Wide, plus they have a wide range of expertise that may not be available locally in many areas you can log into your account to send a message to your counselor at any time and you'll get. 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Sheriff Rene Rivera says, he knows exactly what happened to Tara and he knows exactly who's responsible but that's not all in the same interview. Renee also says that these two suspects who were teenagers back in Nineteen eighty-eight eight when Tara vanished had help he says that when they got rid of her body, they didn't work alone and that he believes Tara Calico never. Left New Mexico alive not even Valencia, county now as part of his theory, he clarifies that he doesn't think Taurus in that polaroid even though it's never been linked to anyone else's case. Now he's been on the case for a long time since ninety six. so He's used to all kinds of wild goose chases from tipsters and psychics and everyone in between, and he says he's followed tons of leads and dug up multiple places where tar was rumored to be buried only to have it all. come up empty but now he's ready to lay out what he believes happened to Tara. Okay. So what happens so according to Rene, these two teenagers were driving along in an old pickup just like how the witnesses described and when they saw Tara riding her bike down state road forty-seven, they decided to follow her. He says that these guys actually knew Tara and we're kind of maybe cat calling her harassing her just kind of being jerks essentially. But then things took a really bad turn because. They actually hit Taurus bike with the truck. Now Rene does say that he thinks it was an accident like they weren't trying to run her over anything but accident or not Tara falls off her bike and from there these two men panic and they picked Tara up with her and her bike in the truck they abduct her dump her bike somewhere along the way and then Rene says that he thinks maybe she could have been hurt from the fault maybe she was threatening to call police s somehow things spiraled her abductors panicked because they were afraid of going to jail. Okay. But assuming he's right. It doesn't really speak to what happened to her after they took her we'll according to Rene in the same interview. He says that when the boys got rid of tar his body again members, they didn't do it alone and and you know I don't think he has a theory of exactly what transpired exactly maybe how she was murdered, but he thinks that these guys had help from at least two other people. But the he thinks he knows who they are. He won't name them formerly after this interview goes to press tar surviving family waits with like this horrible anticipation desperate to see these two mystery guys arrested. So they can finally learn what really happened to fill in all of those pieces get the closure that they've waited for for twenty long years. But here's the thing even though he says, he's got a solid case already put together against these two unnamed suspects Rene won't pull the trigger an arrest them wait what yet he says that he won't do it without some really rock hard evidence like Tara's body or her bike or even a piece of clothing. Now Torres family is beyond frustrated by this because. Why go public with such a bombshell if all you're GonNa do is just let it fizzle and John Doe in particular is mad and in his mind, the sheriff never have gone public if the department wasn't going to make a move and I totally get his anger I mean he lost a child, he watched his wife live with her grief like an open wound. He had to listen to every out their theory I mean for years and years and years. and. So now after losing Tara then Patty, I can only imagine that Rene as refusal to arrest his suspects had to feel like a slap in the face to John and his daughter Michelle who at this point Michelle's kind of taking over the investigation after Patty passed away. Okay. But to give rene the benefit without I can see that maybe public to try and put pressure on you know in the hope that these guys would turn themselves in and confess. Maybe, lead him to Tara's or remains or. Anything maybe, but I mean, it just doesn't happen that way nothing comes of this and Taurus family is left yet again to just watch and wait with no arrests. No new information tars disappearance cools off yet again. The investigation does continue go and more anniversaries past including the twentieth anniversary of the infamous polaroid from nineteen, Eighty nine and on this twentieth anniversary something interesting happens Jordan would Nagel reported for thought catalog that back across the country in Port Saint Joe, Florida the Chief of police himself. A man named David Barnes gets a pair of images in the mail of a boy with marker drawn over his mouth like duct tape to imitate the boy from the original polaroid. Now, Loft Investigations reported that these photos are postmarked for June tenth two, thousand, nine, two days before the anniversary of when this photo was found. Now at first David things as some kind of GAC somebody trying to be funny or more like maybe flip off the police but the local newspaper gets the same photo postmarked from Albuquerque the same day that David got his and when they received it, they turned bears over to police just to be. Safe, and the thing is I mean just like the girl has never been one hundred percent positively idead after twenty years neither has the boy. So law enforcement does have to take it seriously at least for a little while even though they're still pretty shorts s right because what it actually is connected exactly. But like we've seen so many times before in this case, these strange photographs calmed absolutely nothing because there's just no way for police to. Identify the boy in to track down where these came from other than where they're postmarked and honestly these photos in relation to Tara. Feels like kind of a stretch to me like someone with time on their hands someone who is kind of evil and and just wants to mess with police and bring up this horrible time in a family's life. As time continues to pass after two, thousand, nine, Torres step sister Michelle gets more and more into the investigation. Again, kind of taking the mantle from her Dad John who took it from Patty and she does everything she can to keep a light shining on tars case in hopes that her sister will one day. Get Justice. And then. Just when it seems like the answers might never come. The case gets brand new life. This episode was made possible by Ernest now's the time to get your student loan payments under control. You could be saving money by refinancing your student loans with earn. Even if you've refinanced before with today's low rate environment, most people could save by refinancing. Again, checking your new rate is fast and easy to start. You just complete a few questions online. It takes only less than two minutes and you'll get a personalized rate estimate without affecting your credit score plus there's no origination fee or any other fees, and now you can get a one hundred dollar cash bonus when you refinance a student loan with. Dot Com slash crime junkie. 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The fact that I hadn't heard our doors enter go off helped me know that she was safe and came to the edge off of how scared I was Oh, and you guys all of this coverage. I'm talking about starts just fifteen dollars a month with no contract, no hidden fees, no fine print and no pushy sales people signed me up and everyone I know please try simplisafe today at simplisafe dot com slash crime junkie you get free shipping and a sixty day free trial there's really nothing to lose that's simplisafe dot com slash crime junkie. In October of two, thousand, thirteen, twenty, five years after Tara Calico vanished law enforcement announces the reopening her case which had fizzled out after Rene announcement in two thousand eight didn't lead to any arrests. Nicole Perez reported in the Albuquerque Journal that a task force made up a both federal and local officials is being assembled to try and find answers once and for all, and this is a serious crew and we're talking agents from homeland. Security Valencia sheriff's Albuquerque Police Molds, other sheriffs, agencies, state police like they are not messing around here yet that's a pretty intense group but I guess my question is what made them reopen the case then form this super intense task force. Was it. Just that the case had been quiet for so long or was there something new? You know I'm not a hundred percent. Sure of the Albuquerque Journal article says that they were interested in solving just generally cold cases and looking at old evidence with modern technology and they had been talking about opening tars case for about a year before this actually happened but I found something else that I half to think is related. So later that same October. After, the case is reopened members of this task force conduct an interview with a former Belinda county sheriff's deputy named Frank McCulloch and he tells them about a deathbed statement that he took while he was with the sheriff's department according to the police report about this interview. Frank. Tells the task force that a man named Henry Brown wanted to confess some things before he died and that he knew exactly what happened to Tara in who killed her? As Boring tells the Task Force Henry told him that back in eighty eight, he used to live down the street from a trailer where this other guy lived and he said that this other guy liked to have his buddies over to get high and party in the space meant that he built and Henry would go over to actually party with them. And you know all sounds kind of innocent enough. Right. But the name of the guy who lived in the trailer was Lawrence. Romero junior wait isn't that the old sheriff's son the one who died Yup as frank tells the Task Force, Henry said that he was down in the basement one night right around the time Tara disappeared and he saw what he called a grave wrapped in blue tarp basically. The right size to be a human body. Then there are these three guys warrants and his Buddies Leroy and David and this other unnamed man with red hair and they kind of start talking about how they knew Tara, because she used to date a friend of theirs and how they knew that she took the same bike ride every day how they'd seen her on state road forty, seven on her. Usual route and they were out driving this old pickup truck and knocked her off her bike. But according to Henry they don't stop there. He tells frank that Lawrence. Leroy the redhead and David Kidnap Tara took her out to some gravel pits nearby and sexually assaulted her and she thought even though she'd just been brutalized Lawrence told Henry that she threatened to go to the police. So Lawrence got a Knife and stabbed her then he says that they put her body in the basement and later took it out to the Red Heads House, dumping it in a nearby pond apparently lawrence like to Brag that since his dad was the sheriff, he could pretty much get away with committing crimes and as for the pink bike, the group said that they took it to a junkyard where would never be found. Now by the time, the task force here's all of this. Again, Lawrence Romero junior has been dead for over twenty years. Henry's even dead and frank has resigned from the department there really isn't a way to prove or disprove any of this, but I think right back to that report that we talked about from two thousand eight and I see a lot of parallels you know when Rene comes out and he's like I've solved it I mean you got the teenage boys you've got an old pickup truck that accidentally runs into it's not necessarily planned and Tara threatening to Tau Law enforcement, and even this idea of a possible cover up and that. Would even explain why there was never an arrest i. feel like we see this a lot of times. It's not always about justice it can just be about politics. I feel like we've seen that too many times but the reality of it is that we don't have actual evidence of this I mean, we don't have evidence of anything. We don't even know what law enforcement did with this information. The most recent update I could find comes from Joe Lean Gutierrez Krueger who reported in the Albuquerque Journal this two, thousand, eighteen that it was unclear. What steps law enforcement took after this and whether they searched that pond or the house or the trucks like. We have no idea and of course, there's still the photograph even if that's not actually Tara Calico bound and gagged in the back of the van. Who is that woman and WHO's the boy next to her their stories deserve to be told and their families are surely missing them. I. Mean. It's been years and years and those families deserve answers or I mean if it really is fake like you posed, we need someone to come forward and confirmed that. So we can remove this from the investigation and from the narrative if it really has nothing to do with the case over thirty years later, the mysteries remain as puzzling as ever tar calicoes fate is still unknown and Michelle won't stop until she gets the truth she's actually teamed up. With a former classmate of Tara's named Melinda who has an investigative podcast dedicated to solving Taurus case in two thousand and Nineteen Melinda did say that she's gotten some new information that she's turned over to law enforcement though we don't know exactly what that is or if it has the potential to solve this back in October of two, thousand, nineteen FBI posted. They are offering a twenty thousand dollar reward for information about this case and they ask anyone with information to please contact them at tips, dot FBI dot gove or by calling them at five, zero, five, eight, nine, one, three, zero, zero. Again. If you have any information about tars case, please contact the FBI act tips, dot FBI DOT GOV or by calling them at five Oh, five, eight, eight, nine, thirteen, hundred, and as usual. You can find all the pictures from the story and our source material on our website Crime Junkie podcast dot com, and be sure to follow us on Instagram at Cranky podcast. We'll be back next week with a brand new episode, but hang around for a prophet of the month story. Crime Junkie is an audio chuck production. So what do you think Chuck D approve? Okay Ashley everyone got really upset with me and my rating scale. Last month and said that I considered a six point five to seven was actually closer to Tatton but. It was at least like a hard nine. Okay. That's for sure. But here's the deal you chose this story and I don't even know what kind of rating scale we're getting into. Yeah. To me unless like we are talking about puppies who grew up to be half happy healthy dogs who have a litter of puppies like a bike everything is is a hard eight hard nine to be and this one is no exception. So I'm not going to fool around with our listeners, grab your clean axe because I'm hoping that I can get through it if not Brit. I might have to send the story over to you but I'm going to try because I think it's a very sweet sweet story and it came to me from one of our listeners named Anthony. So I'm I'm honestly just going to read you the exact message that he sent me okay. My name is Anthony and I'm actually more of a recent listener although I'm fairly new just started three weeks ago I have binge listened, and in only three episodes away from being caught up. I love those dogs, segments you do after episodes, telling stories of dogs and I have quite the tear jerker about our puppy dame sal. My family lives on a farm in a small upstate New York town called Appalachian, and we adopted a purebred great pyrenees puppy to live with and guard our. Love Oh. Yes. But when we brought him home with us in January of twenty twenty, he was only eight weeks old. So he had to stay in the house to grow and get comfortable for the first three weeks or so he had to be near another one of our house dogs or one of us humans as he had some pretty crazy separation anxiety we would put him in a Kennel at night in the house but every night for three weeks, he would yelp and wine until someone woke up to let him out and every night for three weeks straight. It was always me I like Anthony already I know I would totally be a sucker for the pub I did it with Chuck. Why he's probably so not well behaved as he way like he's definitely like nowhere near crate trained, but he's a very. Burger boy. I would take him out of the Kennel. Bathroom, to three a m. but when I would bring him back inside, he made it up bundling clear that he wanted nothing to do with going back inside the Kennel. So inevitably, I, would sit or lay down on the floor with him and he would curl up with me until he eventually fell asleep also I can kind of just imagine this like fluffy white pup just like. No I'm not going to. Be Yeah and so cute and they curl up together. Someone would wake up every morning at six am or so and come get the puppy from me. So I could get an hour or two of sleep in bed again, every night that was our thing he wanted to be comforted and as much as I wanted sleep I wanted him to feel safe. And comfortable more. Guy Spoiler it's coming. As he grew in size mostly from eating the dog food out of are much larger dogs bull, we started showing him around the farm and introducing him to the other animals and dogs he'd be staying with in the sheep pen. Sal was a happy klay full puppy even as he grew and found himself sleeping in the most random places in the house. When sow was big enough we integrated him out to our pan with the sheep and the other dogs and he couldn't have been happier. He would play with the little lambs and our other dogs, and if one of the older sheep ever tried to challenge sow, the other dogs would come to his rescue. I love animals like all of them honestly, this farm life sounds amazing. One day about three weeks ago I noticed sow was limping on his leg pretty bad I brought it to the attention of the other family members wondering if anyone had a definitive clue of what happened and no one seemed to know. So I went out and did my normal routine of looking him over made sure. He didn't cut his pawn anything felt for broken bones looked for any kind of blood on his snow white to signify any kind of injury to explain this sudden limping nothing. As a family we came to the conclusion that he might have pulled a muscle chasing one of the sheep in his playful banter and we all agreed to keep a close eye on him just three days. Later I noticed instead of getting better, he actually seemed to be getting worse and was applying even less pressure to his way. So we took him to the vet see if they could find something that we couldn't to explain this, and what they found was going to take the very breath out of a all. Upon, x Ray Scans a dark spot was discovered on his elbow, not a mass, but instead, the lack of bone should have been there. When we asked for further review, it was concluded that are poor eight month old happy with life puppy had a very rare form of bone cancer and it was incredibly aggressive. They informed us that it had already begun to spread and it deteriorated the bone in his elbow so bad that it affected the nerves too. So he couldn't control the paw at all the DOC said, he probably wouldn't make it through the following weekend we're going to be OK. Okay One Tech. As they told us this, he looked back at US and smile. His usual everything is awesome. Smile. So we brought him home knowing that time was short but wanting you to be happy for as long as he could. We. Let him stay with the sheeps dogs outside at night, and during the day we made sure someone was home to bring him in the house and give him the loving. He's so deserved just two days ago. On Labor? Day. I went to the sheep pen to spend some time with him. But he refused to get up even degree me. So I did what any dog living person with do. And I sat down in the dirt next where he was laying, they started putting him. Only this time. No smile. No I got this I. got it. As a pet him, I couldn't stop the tears from filling my eyes. As I knew what he was trying to tell me and for a moment the only thought in my mind was I'm not ready to say goodbye. As, quickly as that entered my mind though. He leaned his head onto my leg and fell asleep leak and smears I pet him. The way he did when he was so small. And that's I knew that he was telling me it was time. I stayed with him for what seemed like hours just calmly petting him and soaking up the feeling of him laying there with me. When I entered the House afterwards I knew we would have to call the vet. Sal had to be put down Tuesday evening to end his suffering. And then we had a funeral service if you will. And buried him right on the property that he grew to love and all of his home. Anthony goes on to say. This is a sad story and I know I. so apologize for that. But he said he's basically telling it to us because he wants to bring some kind of awareness to dogs with cancer. In some way he said, he feels like there's not enough that's heard about it and he knows that Cornell University College of Veterinary Science does a great job in treating the animals. That are especially in his area but he said it's not commonly talked about unless you're in the situation where your dog is the one with cancer and needs and needs that so. Actually all you told me about this ways can you look up cancer research in dogs? That's all I mean you had to have known what was coming only? No but like this was this was even more heart wrenching. Then I could have even imagined. We usually like to highlight a shelter at the end of these segments but. Like you said, the main reason Anthony Centers sells story was to talk about dogs with cancer and how to help other pet owners find the help and support they need after. That cancer diagnosis. And I was looking into this because you asked me and I found the Animal Cancer Foundation and their slogan is uniting pet and human research for a cure and they are passionate about helping fund research to find a cure for cancer not only pets but in people to these and the have this incredible program called the Canine Cancer. Genome Project that actually helps map the genomes of seven of the most common canine cancers and make sure that research is shared not only with veterinary researchers in oncology field but also with human cancer researchers to help grow the field and the possibilities of targeting. Therapies for US humans and free best friends and the Animal Cancer Foundation has a ton of ways plugged in with their organization whether it's donating volunteering or fundraising, and they have this program that I personally cannot wait to participate in. It's getting to be too cold here in Northern Indiana to do it now. But next summer my family and I are definitely going to be doing A. Sippy Cup cafe. What does that? It's eliminates stand that is human and up friendly. They email you a little kid with everything you need to help raise funds that will go to help fund pet and human cancer research and can't wait and personally I went to think anthony not only for submitting sal story but for helping me the more aware of this cause and making sure that. Sells life isn't. For. Nothing his legacy will live on for years to come. Yeah. So keep an eye out next summer for that crime junkie puppy lemonade on. You guys want to figure out how to get involved. We'll make sure all of that information is on our website and. As, you hone in your rating system. This is a fifty year. Yeah. See you're you're getting better at that.

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There's no rule that says we can't do a couple so we're going to do to this week in the first one which is right now. We're going to start start with your comments and the news and trust me. There is a lot of news and a lot of rumors to talk about. And then I'll give you a second show doing nothing but previewing reviewing this weekend's MotoGP. Season Finale at Balenciaga. Sounds pretty cool right. Actually I can't take all the credit for it a couple of weeks ago. I got an email from Aaron. And he suggested suggested he said hey might be cool to separate those two shows out to have a race preview show and then a news and comment show that way you could listen to them in either order you could listen to the race preview review I or you can listen to news and comments. I and that's not the plan necessarily but when I realized just how much we have to talk about this week I figured. Hey Hey let's give it a try and see how it works so it'll be up to you guys. Let me know what you think. If you like the shows separate like this or rather have just one big show that you listen to keeping in mind. Line that there's just a lot to go over this weekend. Hey I made you wait an extra week I show anyway. The least I could do was put in a little extra effort to give you some more Once we got going again so on this show we're going to catch up on some of your comments from Sapang along with some writer reaction There were a couple of routers in particular WanNa talk about from Malaysia including the secret. Secret behind Yamaha's late season surge and then in the news you name it. We'll talk about it. We've got Roger News heading into this weekend's race at Valencia. We've got twenty twenty anyone rumors. We've got twenty twenty rumors and after sitting on the drama sidelines. All Season Long Yamaha finally gets into the game and generates eight some genuine Yamaha drama. But not the type you would expect in fact it has nothing to do with Valentine Rossi or maverick Viagra's for that matter. I'll explain coming up in fact we've we've got so much to talk about when it comes to news. We aren't even going to be able to get to everything so before we officially start the show. I'll say that A it was awesome to see Scott got reading looking fast and competitive in. SBK debut be if they can get attract built in time I think a motor GP race. In Hungary would be great. Even if twenty two rounds in twenty twenty two is really pushing the limits of the length of a season and see. I think it's awesome. That world superbike is GONNA race it. OC- Lebron next year mostly mostly because it's a lot of fun to say. Oh sure slaven so. I can't wait to get to that track Before we get to the official run down. I do want to invite you to the website. If you haven't and check out yet all of the latest episodes can be found at Moto Week Dot net. You can also follow along on twitter and instagram. At Moto week hit up the facebook page facebook dot dot com slash mode week dot net and the biggest and best of them. All the red at sub are slash mode week. Leave your stories your pictures. You comments anything you want to talk about. And I realize realize as I say that that I've been remiss I have not posted the promised pictures of the motor week bikes. He can take another guess. At what exactly it is so I will. We'll do that this week. In fact I will do it. As soon as Valencia pre ratio is done which should be well after. This show is done so instead of talking about added Let's go ahead and do it here. It is the rundown just about everything we're going to talk about on this episode of the show and we're gonNA with your comments and you guys had a lot of really interesting Stuff you wanted to talk about over the last week and a half or so I will start with the potential forces. Yuki Satellite Squad twenty twenty one and where exactly that would fit in the silly season and the structure of the grid Then we'll talk about track. Lap Records about what Yamaha would do with Valentino. Rossi decides to retire after the in the next season wants to bring. VR Forty six to the premier class. Your opinions on her Halo Renzo and the Jones Zarko drama Your opinions on tracks your opinions on video radio pass and then our posts plural of the week. There are two of them then after we get done with all of that. We'll talk about writer reaction to Spang. No we're not going to rehash everything that went on in Malaysia alasia but there are a couple of riders in particular. I wanted to hear about after this race. Starting with Maverick Daniela's he'll be talking about Yamaha's recent performance and more importantly certainly how they got to where they are right now in coming off of that win in Malaysia. And the answer isn't really as elaborate as you might think it's actually pretty simple and along with that we'll talk about whether Marc Marquez is worried about Yamaha's recent success. We'll also hear what Jones Arco had to say about his his near Miss of the top ten in the last round. And how exactly he's feeling on that. Honda heading into the season finale. That are about the first half of the show when we come back back from the break Modo. GP News and a lot of it. We'll start with some rider news. Eaker like a wounded is starting his new job sooner than expected while UNICEF vulgar is leaving his old job sooner than expected then with dive into some rumors. We got twenty twenty rumors about Takada and Lorenzo in horror as comments on those those rumors. Then the 2021 rumors are already starting up about Marc Marquez. We'll finish up the show with three major rule changes that were announced for the twenty twenty season. We'll go over all of them talk about the significance and will also chat about Husqvarna CZ. Return to moto three all right. So let's dive into things and get going with your comments and I want to start with DJ purchase because he asked a really interesting question that we had a lot of talk about this. Maybe six months ago a year ago but it really hasn't come up recently. And that's the topic of Suzuki and their chances of having a satellite squad in this case Dj was asking about in twenty twenty one on now. He tweeted David. Emmett of who would sure as hell no better than I. If something substantial were in the works right now and Emmett said it was too early to know if the talk in the paddock would really amount to anything. There is talking to paddock every year. About potential new satellite teams especially when it comes to Suzuki and then too much much lesser extent with Apprecia- but I think if you're talking twenty twenty one obviously not twenty twenty. It's way too late in the game for that. But for twenty twenty one I actually think the chances are really a good that it'll happen although I wouldn't put money on it quite yet. Of course I'm not a betting person but if I were wouldn't necessarily be laying money down on this but there are a lot of good reasons that Sukey may start up a satellite team in twenty twenty one First and foremost Dornan has made it no secret over the past couple of years. Their goal is for every manufacturer. The have four bikes on the grid to factory offerings to satellite rights. And everybody has conformed ended at everybody's fallen in the line except for Suzuki and probably at this point now I don't think the Dorna is necessarily going to force those manufacturers into having a satellite satellite team but think about Moto two. They stuck to their picture to their ideal. Emoto to of having no more single bike teams in a pretty pretty sure. That motor three is GonNa follow suit in twenty twenty one because next year. They're only allowing one single bike team in the lightweight division. And like you said none emoto too so. I think that they're going to push as hard as they can to try to get to that same ideal in the premier class. Now obviously that's a lot harder at the motor. GP level to have the two organizations for each manufacturer because of the second factor. That we're GONNA talk about here when it comes to Suzuki and a satellite team budget and when it comes down to it this says the area the casts a little bit out for me as to whether Suzuki you know could have a satellite team in twenty twenty one or not Because obviously budget is the biggest biggest obstacle for them. They aren't willing to throw around the same kind of money as the big three or even. KTM is right now. But that doesn't mean that Dorner couldn't or wouldn't help in that department Dorna has subsidized teams. And they've subsidized riders. Before and while I can't see them. You know playing favorites financially to a factory team like the factory Suzuki Sukey team themselves. They certainly could throw their weight around to help. A potential satellite organization get the sponsors and get the riders. They need to kind of take some of the heat heat off of Suzuki financially. And what I mean by that. Is You know if they went out and tried to get Vinci do Khadi Right now. Is There Suzuki satellite team. Mum Yeah eventually has a certain amount of money they could spend. But it's probably not going to be enough money to offset getting a current year. Factory built bike from Zouqi. So darn it could help them get more sponsorship money coming in so they could do the same thing the patronises doing the same thing that prey Mac is doing. Don't think Duke Odeon Yamaha just handing over those bikes because because they like you know. Patrolling and pray Mac. There's definitely money exchanging hands there and as far as budget is concerned. I think that would be really the biggest obstacle. Alan has been the biggest obstacle for Suzuki. Because not only do they have to build the bikes but they have to provide the personnel to assist the Satellite Organization to be successful as possible possible and that means they have to expand their rnd operation their engineering operation and all of that takes resources. But that is a solvable problem. It's something Suzuki can work on. And it's something Midora and the satellite team that they may partner with down. The road can work on getting better sponsors in bring more money. But that's not to say that Suzuki is only going to start up a satellite operation because because Dorner wants them to because I would think that. WD BRIVIO would be just as eager to get things going as dorner would be. I mean Suzuki's been rumored the past few years of having having looked into expanding but they couldn't get the right deal done but not only do I think that internally Suzuki wants to do it but I actually think believe it or not they. Ktm Am could be a major catalyst here in getting Suzuki to start up a satellite operation because everyone knows that there is a benefit in having extra terrain put having adding extra data coming in but until now that extra input is really only benefited. Honda especially and Khadi to a lesser extent Yamaha but if Katie I'm goes out there and start to improve dramatically next year after starting their satellite operation this season then. I think that's going to be a huge motivator motivator for Suzuki to do the same thing because if the big budget teams are running satellite organizations in their excelling because of it. Well that's to be understood your behind them anyway but if somebody who is technically behind you performance wise ends up leapfrogging you because they have the extra input the extra resources of that satellite organization. That's going to be a wake up call for Suzuki. That they better get on the bandwagon and do the same thing or else. They're going to be the next K TAM or the next trillion behind line trying to make up ground but not having all the tools that the other teams have to make that happen so while there is a chance that Zouqi may not start up a satellite team in twenty twenty one and I would actually be a bit surprised if they didn't have something in the works for a satellite team by them but I will say they should get on it right now. They kind of need to get the ball rolling if they wanNA make it happen. I know the Petropolis came about in no time at all. But that was the exception in author roll especially when you're talking to an established motor. GP team about changing everything that they're doing to go to a different manufacturer Moving on the P.. Bats on the heels of Bobbio quarrels lap record into paying multiple lap records Kurds in bang. Well he wondered why we don't see that more often because BOTs was noticing that a lot of the lap records at tracks are from a few years back and is wondering why we aren't seeing track records fall all the time as the horse power and the technology and the riders all advance well. I'm sure that everybody will have a slightly different. Take on this one and I would certainly defer to someone like Mad Oxley. Who couldn't really do a great job of explaining it but I would say that the two biggest reasons are number one? The reason that freak mobile brought up and tires specifically the older Dunlop's as opposed to the current Michelin's not that the Michelin Star Bad. It's just that they're made differently with different technology. She and really the big thing is that teams had eight straight years to work with dunlop to get aggressive tire. That could turn in great laps. And they've only we had the last four seasons to work with Michelin in the longer they work together the faster and faster. They're going to get so. That's the first reason the second one in my opinion of course the SPEC. Ecu and this factor is as big or maybe even bigger than the tires themselves. I mean they could just control so so much more. When there were no limits placed on the teams and the engineers and as a result they sunk countless truckloads of money and time time and energy and research into developing the slickest software that they could dream up so it makes sense when they can do anything? They wanted that they would faster. Even though they were producing less horsepower than they are now they could just take better advantage of it because right now they're options are purposely limited to to reduce those costs and make sure that the team with the biggest army of engineers isn't the one that dominates all the time But in all honesty I think all it's going to take his time before for more of those records start to fall not a whole lot of time But the more you know time they have the focus and work with the SPEC electronics. The more they're able to coax out of them and we've seen that this tim. We're GONNA talk about that a little bit later The more time they have to spend with the Michelin tires were they can get more out of them and better setups ambition. You'll learn how to make better tires season after season. You combine that with the insane. Horse power in these engines are making nowadays and the incredible acceleration and potential top speed to go along with them and also on top of that writers that are getting better and better at using the data. Not just to analyze how they ride but the perfect their style l.. And we'll talk about that in a little bit as well. You combine all that and I think that eventually they will be able to surpass all of those open. You see you times eventually eventually then of course once we get to that point one of two things will happen either. You know. We'll see those lap records fall year after year race after race or they'll change the rules you you know it's a rain everybody back in a little bit and make sure that one team or one organization or woman you factor isn't getting so far out in front of the others that the competition goes down the dream So moving on and back to the topic of Satellite Organizations William wanted to continue the Yamaha discussion specifically where those guys might be headed in terms of their satellite organization. If Valentino Rossi decides to retire at the end of two thousand twenty. We don't know if he's going to yet or not but he is going to decide sooner rather than later. And if you remember the popular opinion was that at the point where Valentino calls it quits with that's when Vr forty-six would expand their current moto. Three Modo to operations up to Mona. GP and there would become Yamaha's premier satellite team. And you know before we're the season started. This was already something we were wondering about because you know Petronas came on board. How's that all going to work but it seemed a lot more straightforward back then because because it seemed like whatever solution was put in place at that point it was going to be temporary because of patrols comes on board and they get a SPEC be specked current year equipment from Yamaha that either you know wants? Vr forty-six came along. They would have to settle for second best or they would be dumped all together by Yamaha and then that's that and that's one of the reasons that I thought that Yamaha might actually have a hard time filling that satellite role in the first place after tech three left. Because I mean I think about it if you were the owner of a motive. GP team would you willingly sign on to be a Yamaha Satellite Organization. Knowing that. You're either we're GONNA get demoted or you're going to get outright dropped a few years down the road because Valentino Rossi decides. He wants to go. Motor racing is known her while patrolling. This was obviously obviously willing to take that chance but nobody. I don't think anybody at that point expected that Rozan rally would be able to put together a team team. That is quite as good as fast as this patrol sprint Yamaha team is and as William pointed out. It does present quite the problem. Doesn't it it because what does Yamaha do if the doctor does decide to retire after next season and says I'm going to transition to being an owner and I'm going to bring the are forty six six up to the big leagues up to the Premier Class. Well William kicked out a couple of options number one Yamaha supplying what five or maybe six current year be an SPEC bikes to all of their various riders. That would be something that just a couple of years after telling tech three that they weren't even even capable of providing any current year models to anybody but Valentino Rossi. Maverick Venezuela's now. They're looking at the the prospect of having to provide sex. The interesting part here is that unlike in our discussion about Suzuki a few minutes ago in this case I don't think that money would be a limiting factor. I mean the team like we already established isn't getting the good stuff for free right. They're ponying up so they're kicking him big dollars for the privilege and a lot of teams things. Don't have the money for that for two top level. A SPEC bikes L.. CR doesn't even have the money for that. If they did they would be giving Takenaka. Gami current your stuff but instead they wade is talent and his development level against the cost of that bike and they said you know what you can go ahead and Rob Marks Championship winning from last year and pray Mac was in the same position until this here as well but patrol his does have that money. And that's why they're fielding to a SPEC bikes next year. But guess what my my guess. Is that sky who sponsors Veer forty-six my guess is that sky. has that kind of cash to so everybody involved may be able to pony up the the money for the best bits. They may all want the best parts but that would be the point where I'm sure that Yamaha would not be able to keep up. No manufacturer would be able to support part six current era top of the line. A SPEC you know Yamahas I mean nobody can do. COTY couldn't even provide that many bikes nor would they want to because you're just watering doing things down. So much in terms of development and manufacturing that you're going to end up there are going to end up being some negatives from that now. Fortunately I think there would. It'd be a couple of outs for Yamaha. If they had to satellite teams because in that case that would mean that Valentino Rossi was retiring. They would have an open seat and who's going to take that let's see well. Let me if they had to decide right. Now Fabio Koch. Harare almost certainly gets that ride. So now you've just created a space patroness proneness and they have one writer with one aspect bike. Well guess what whoever comes in and gets that other bike. They're getting the good stuff. Because then then that would free up Yamaha to take that other a SPEC bike and move that over to VR forty six and so now you still only have four current your bikes one for each of those satellite teams and then the other outer gets you know the bikes. That Valentino and Maverick are currently writing. That would make a lot of sense. Of course the one thing that that doesn't take into consideration is something else that William brought up the rumor that Lorenzo may once again be pursuing a ride with patroness this them. What do you do if you're in that same exact two team scenario d give Lorenzo your old stuff and Morbidelli new stuff? The best bike away from Frank. Morbidelli after you've given it to them and risk him getting upset and leaving or did you refuse to give air forty-six new bike at all and give both the new bikes to patrol so Morbidelli and Lorenzo can have those a SPEC bikes. I know I. I don't I wouldn't have to figure that one out if I was Yamaha. That's all I'm going to say about that. Of course we don't know what the deal is right now between Petronas and Yamaha me maybe they started this relationship knowing full well from the beginning ginning how and when it was going to end maybe Rizzoli you know had really been targeting Suzuki all along but those guys weren't ready so here comes Yamaha. They present the perfect perfect option. You can run a few years on the M one. Get your experience. Get your team set then. A couple of years. Valentino Rossi retires. At that point Suzuki is going to be ready. But performance wise and financially C can move right over now. I'm totally speculating. There I have no insider information on this at all but knowing how sharp sharp Rizzoli is a patroness that could be an option an mit been why they were so willing to go with Yamaha. Knowing that up up ahead they're on the road there was a brick wall and that brick wall had a big VR forty-six painted on it So it's speculation on my part entirely but that is a possibility and that is where Dorner comes into the picture as well just like we were talking about earlier. There idea is to organizations for bikes per manufacturer and who knows they might have been working with patrol us on a plan all along to get them in the sport to get them participating. Take that slot that was vacated by mark. Vdi US and then down the road they already laid out. All the details of you know where Petronas will go and then how that would make room for. VR forty-six and in the process us. Everyone reaches their own individual goals in the end Yamaha gets support right now with the satellite team Trying to get some experience before they really racing although they already have really gone racing And then Dorney gets closer to that ideal in the end of having those four bytes per manufacture. Of course you know patrol US performing performing so well. If that was the initial plan is definitely gonNA throw a monkey wrench in that plane because if you are resume rally or you're the Petronas people right now you would want to give that up. You don't want to give up that kind of performance because you will be leaving going to an unknown. Even if you're going to a good organization like Suzuki Zouqi Honda Decode. It doesn't matter it's still an unknown when sticking with what you've got is a known and it's unknown that's performing and for a perfect perfect example of that just go look at three fantastic organization performing well on the Amaha they venture into the unknown with calcium. And you see what what happened in the results and so if I were thrown us I would be very very reluctant to give up what I've got right now because you don't know I mean you could say oh well you know Suzuki's he's way better than him. Yeah Well Honda is way better than Yamaha and slightly better than do cody and where he'll rent to Honda. And that didn't work out. You know because when you go into that unknown situation anything can end up happening. And as I say that I'm looking directly at Jones Arco and standing next to him is where he Lorenzo. But if we're if we're on the path of speculating anyway well heck. Why isn't there a chance that Petronas could keep rolling right along if Valentine Rossi says he wants to come to motor? GP But they end up in a partnership Rossi and Vr forty-six. And this is something else. That William brought up and I think it is a possibility pretty. I mean obviously that will require both sides to put put away a little bit of Ego put away a little bit of pride and be willing to not have that team solely be. There's but when you really think about it. It's not that farfetched. Really Mean Rossi has had good success on his own but he he more than anyone in the sport he knows that motor. GP is a way different animal than Moto three mode to both in terms of competition and in terms of money. Well he knows that really really well and Hervey trial obviously knows it really well and who knows if you're forty six wanted to make that jump. Who knows if sky I mean they have the money but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily willing financially to make that jump with him and and you know honestly who knows if Valentine Rossy really wants to sit on a pit box and manage team on the day to day basis so a partnership hip between Petronas and Vr forty-six that would benefit both sides because the Vr forty-six name gives them an immense amount amount of marketing cloud that really few match and it would help bring in sponsors to kind of take some of the financial pressure off of Petronas and then Rizzoli on the other side brings the organizational his ational expertise and now demonstrated success at the Mo- GP level so it could be the perfect solution and you know same Petronas VR forty-six? That's got a pretty good ring to it doesn't sound too bad at all so again. Pure speculation on my part but that is within the realm of possibility. The and there's a lot of reasons that something like that would not make sense but they're also just as many reasons that it would make sense and it just adds another dimension to this upcoming silly season. We're we're not just talking about riders. Now we're talking about writers and we're talking about teams entire teams. Could Suzuki avas satellite team. What is Yamaha going to do if they have to? Satellite Teams So there's so many moving parts heading into the silly season and I imagine it's GonNa be it's GonNa go one of two ways either. Every single move is going GONNA be like mind blowing like crazy or else a lot of stuff is gonNA fall in line and people are GonNa Kinda hold servants. Stay where they are you know she. She Delina was interviewed this past week and he kinda suggested the ladder that a lot of guys. We're going to stay where they were and part of the reason for that is that teams are so eager. They're so nervous about losing their guy wanting to get the ones that they want right away that all the signings are going to happen so early in the season. There's not nearly as much of a chance for guys to be talked into or out outta deals and you know for teams to try to one up each other and so he thinks there is not going to be nearly as much intrigue. Because everything's going to happen so early in the season but it's motor GP and if one thing is certain when it comes to motor GPA and silly season. It's that you never really know what's going going to happen. There's always something in there that throws you for a loop and I'm hoping there will be All right so let's go from talking about a couple of future. Potential controversies controversies to one. That's a little bit more media because a few of you had opinions this week on Lorenzo and that looming threat that is Jones Arco Scott Said said that or hey absolutely positively should be worried about Johann ZARCO That in response to my question on the last show that we did and he said that every Honda rider not named Marc Marquez. Should maybe be looking over their shoulder and after all ZARCO was not only set up to finish top ten in Sapang but defeated done that he would have been the second best Honda Rider in the results. That means something not in the sense that I think they're gonNa you know. Turn around and sack Takenaka Gami or even calcutt Shula for that matter but when you think about the fact that for years cal has been saying that only Marc Marquez. Kim Really truly effectively ride the Honda and then horrendous can't have been using that idea passively as a bit of a buffer himself so if they both have that opinion and they're both telling telling us and reinforcing that and then join Zarko turns around and looks like you could land on the podium after only a couple of races. Well it kind of shoots a sizable hole hole in that. Only Mark Kim Rabbit theory and in that case a lot of questions are going to end up being asked now William thought that the best possible outcome for Honda would be them not really firing Lorenzo but then encouraging Lorenzo to move on to something better and then instead stabbed moving Callup to the Repsol Squad to reward him for all of those years of testing parts to help mark succeed which would then open up a spot cr for Zarko to become the official test mule for Honda and fittings. That would be for Carlo to finally get a shot at the big team after all these dumb for them. I can't really see Honda going Matt Route. Not At this point. There's so many talented youngsters out there. And looking at the fact that is coming up so early and Brad Bender is going straight to a factory team that was all brought about by the QUADRA phenomenon. And how quickly things change by the way because a couple of years ago it was all about finding that older more experienced rider and bringing that person up so they can take advantage of their experience in the premier class and it was all started by Zarko. Oddly enough he comes up and instantly starts getting on the podium as a twenty six or twenty seven year old rookie and all of a sudden Sam lowes dot comes up although it crashed right away. I'm Tom Luther Luther gets a ride and motor. GP that didn't work out and so that was the trend for a year. Is We gotta go with the guy who's got as much experience as possible emoto two one now Harare comes up and out of nowhere. This nineteen and twenty year old kid is you know scoring. Podiums is starting on Poles and now now everybody is focused on finding that next young hotshot writer that nobody else's discovered yet hence e corona coming up Brad Bender going straight to a factory team. And that's going to make things a little bit harder for someone like say cal crutch slow to move up to a factory team despite all of his experience because now the trend it is. We need to find that next young rider not that we need to go with the most experienced driver and that counts against cal whether it's his fault or not is irrelevant accounts against cal. And so I think that those younger riders would have a big edge over cal and catching Honda's attention especially with how things went this year when trying to pair mark up with an older rider if they tried to do it again. I think they'd be just as worried that will go poorly. I'm rick set on facebook that he was thinking coming into Sapang that that race they might end up being the deciding one for Hey Lorenzo when it comes to his future I'm at least as it stands with Honda on of course didn't know at the time that Zarco was going to be taken out so or or hey ends up getting a bit of a reprieve because of that I think But we'll talk more about Lorenzo in the second half of the show and hear what he himself has to say about his car. Performance commits the rumors. And kinda wear. He feels he stands at Honda In the meantime let's move onto carol frame who's going to Austin next year to the motor. GP Race with her husband but she wanted some suggestions on another race to go to A. I'm very jealous that you're gonNA go to motor. GP races in a year and be. I'm jealous that you could pick back from anywhere in the world joking. I'm not jealous. I think it's awesome that you're going to get to do this But what track pick Mitt. Think about that for a second if if you could go to any to Modo. GP tracks in the world. What would they be and the idea here for Carol? Is You know she wants to find the place. It's going to have the best action and the best atmosphere and in this case it's not difficult to pick a track in this this case it's more difficult to not pick the other tracks because there are so many awesome places that motor. GP Goes and there are so many great fans at each of those places JC is me and Marcel. Martinez both suggested Phillip Island. I think that's a great suggestion. I mean the racing. There is always fantastic. It comes at a critical point in the season could be the deciding race for all. We know and Australian racing fans. I mean. You know that you're going to have a blast if you're sitting with a bunch of Aussies at a race track But I would add a couple of others to that list for consideration. Asan would be phenomenal choice. The Dutch t t a legendary track track legendary event The racing action. There is usually very good. If you sit in the chicane you're gonNA see some action right And on top of that. It's not just a lot of fans from the area. That shop fans from all over Europe traveled to that race and so you're bound to meet people from all around the area all around the world really lots of great motorcycle. Recycle racing fans. I just make sure if you do go to Asan you. You take an umbrella just in case we actually. You're going to need an umbrella. See better take it with you Harass will be great. You know the first first European round the Spanish fans have been waiting for months to cheer for their favorite writer so the places just a ride. It's just nuts but if that's too close to Texas in terms of schedule Joel will then Catalonia get you a similar crowd at attract that is known for absolutely thrilling finishes especially those last couple of turns. I'm then another one that would make my list San Marino especially next year. And even if you're not a Valentine Rossy fan just think about what the atmosphere here at San Marino is going to be like in twenty twenty depending of course on what Valentino Rossi decides to do but if he decides to retire the allegiance of Valentine Rossi fans that are gonNA show up to see him at his last Modo. GP Race at his home track. Even if he says he's going to continue you. Those fans are GonNa know they don't have many opportunities left to see the doctor on home turf. The fans should be absolutely nuts. That would be an epic race. Go to just for the history of it and the atmosphere so you see what I mean. It's not it's not difficult to pick two tracks. It's difficult to not pick all the rest awesome. So hopefully one of those is a good enough suggestion that it'll send you off in the right direction you'll be able to figure out where to go but the one thing you do have to promise Carol is that when when you do get the Texas and when you do pick and go to the other track that you post pictures on Reddit. Tell us what it's like. Tell us about the experience of going to in Komodo. GP Track that you've never been to for the first time and what the atmosphere is like. What the racing is like and what you did while you were there? Then we can all live vicariously through uh moving on Yamaha again. Elmer Anson Craig and Scott. They all mentioned the improvements. That Honda has made lately. And we're GONNA talk here in a minute about not. Only what Maverick Fan. y'All L. as has to say about those improvements and why we're seeing more positive results out of Yamaha now that you know it's later in the season but also what Marc Marquez has is to say about those improvements as well and whether he's worried about them Mr T.. Just renewed his video pass. And I'm a little bit bummed about that and I'll tell you why because I just went and logged in and check mine and it did prompt me to Renew for next season. And I'm not getting the same deal I'm going to have to have some words with those guys I'm seeing one thirty nine ninety nine and no timing pass thrown in and so that one nineteen in timing. Pass that you were getting. That's a good deal. I think I would take that one. But I don't have auto renew turned on right now so that might be part of it. I'm unhappy seeing as good of a deal because I don't have auto renew set up But for everybody what else out there who maybe read that. And they don't have video pass and they're kind of considering it but they're not quite sure because whether it's one thousand nine hundred thirty nine it doesn't matter it's a lot of money and you're thinking I can watch on TV too. So why should I spend an extra twenty one thirty one hundred forty euros then. After conversion in in two American dollars that ends up being like what seventeen thousand dollars a year something like that But if you're not sure whether it's worth it to pay the extra money to see something that you technically can already see on regular TV. Well you don't have to necessarily commit. Here's what you do. Here's your top tip. Just hang on a couple couple of more weeks until we get the black Friday because almost every year on black Friday motor GP dot com does a video pass special where you can get the off season for one euro. That's it one and even after the awful. US exchange rate. That's still only like seven hundred and fifty dollars or something like but now it's like it's like a buck twenty two. It's totally worth it. Even if you hate it it was totally worth it because it hardly cost you anything then you can check it out you can watch past astray aces. You can watch practice sessions qualifying sessions. Go Back I love to watch historic races over the off season. I'll just binge-watch an entire year during the offseason and then if you like it and then you can buy the whole season right before. Winter testing starts. And then you're off running if you don't like it well hold Kasha. Was Eero no big thing. Of course remember if you do take the one euro deal two things number one. It's not gonNA cost one euro to extend it the rest of the year obviously and and number two when you sign up for that they do automatically enable the auto renew feature. So if you're not if you're not one hundred percent sure because you will we'll forget trust me If you're not one hundred percent sure then as soon as you sign up go into your settings and we'll get to that point. I'll show you where to go and turn off auto renew that way. You get to decide whether you WANNA take the entire season after that or whether you just wanted to go away and you'll just watch on TV. I will say this about video pass though the coverage. There is far far far superior to what you're going to get in the United States on TV. Not that they won't change it not that it won't get better. I'm here being sports. You can call me. I can talk But but as of right now I would say that video pass is far superior to watching it at least on television in the United States. And you always always know you're going to see the race and win. The race is going to be on and you can can of course watch it on demand instead of having those surprises where you've taped it and then you get nothing but a soccer match instead instead. Ask me how I know So thanks Mr for that post and since we're already talking about Mr T.. Let's move on and wrap our comments this week with the posts of the week. There are two of them because two of you gave me a rough time okay. It wasn't really rough time but I thought it was a lot of fun and I up is Mr T.. For calling me out the last show. Probably the last couple of shows for mistakenly calling Alex Marquez. Marc Marquez Multiple Times. I I don't know what it is. I've caught myself doing that before. And I'm so self conscious about it but the problem is once I get involved in talking about something then I start to drift and I'm thinking about the topic we're discussing and not the names anymore and then all of a sudden I make the mistake it happened. It happened so many times. I'll have to go back and listen and but I bet you anything the first couple of times I mentioned his name. I say Alex because I was specifically thinking about it because I know I make that mistake all the time and then once they get off on some sort of tangent that's probably when drifted saying mark and it's especially tough this year with both of them winning championships and winning them convincingly because in my mind there cadillac performing the same right now not exactly the same but mostly the close enough. So Mr T. you get one of the week and then the second one goes to beer food for asking for merch he wants merch. Merch is merchant my arch nemesis okay. Well maybe it's not that bad but I'm so undecided about it in this. Why because I see people on Youtube and stuff pedaling like this super generic kind of junk and I don't want to come across like you used? He's car salesman. You know but I'm not opposed to it in fact a couple of seasons back. I think we were talking about it on the show and I was kicking around the idea and in all honesty I would. I love to do some really cool merch. That's what Harley said Beers food he said no you can I want you to do merch. But I don't want it to suck I wanted to be good merch. has to be something cool. And that's exactly what I was thinking back then. It was like would love to have a shirt but I don't want to share it with the logo on it. I want it to be something like cool. Maybe it incorporates the logo somewhere somewhere but not the main focus the main focus you know should be on some sort of graphics maybe cool silhouette of a bike or something it makes makes it look like a shirt that you could abbad at a race so so even if somebody who sees you wearing it doesn't know what the show is all about. They'll still be like that. That's really cool Sherman. What is that so I don't know? Now you're making me. Think about it again. And maybe I'll go back to the drawing board and even come up with something stickers that we could use two logos on stickers vinyl they'll have to have to be like a decent quality vinyl decal. Maybe we could do that. So so. Because Mr T. and because beers of food both helped me get refocused this week after coming back from vacation six thousand imaginary points to each of you realizing housing. Of course that those points will get you absolutely nothing. Because I don't have any cool merch to give out remember that you've got those points because one day one day there will will be some pretty awesome merge and then you can use those imaginary points you can cash them in and I'll send you something awesome All right before we take a break. I want to talk a little bit about Sapang. We're not go back. And Rehash the entire thing you saw the race where he talked about it on the post ratio so I don't WanNa get bogged down and talking about the race itself but there were a couple of rider. Comments that are really think are worth mentioning. Even even if it's only briefly starting with the race winner Maverick Penola who's obviously looked better. The past six or seven races but in Sapang he was finally able to break breakthrough. Get back to the top step of the podium proving the Yamaha a surprisingly worthy challenger Marquez at least in that race at that track so my big question coming out of this one is in A. What's the story with Owens performance for all the places you would have expected the Omaha to be able to step up and compete for the win? I didn't necessarily have Sapang circled on my calendar right. So how did they get there and can it continue which is just as important of a question. Well surprisingly Maverick said after the race that it wasn't you know some trick new part that Yamaha provided that made all the difference in the world and being able to beat the Honda data but instead it was actually the opposite he said that he purposely over the past couple of rounds elected not ought the use the latest factory race day instead opting to stick with his few changes as possible to try to concentrate all of his and all all of the team's efforts on the electronics and making the electronics work as best as they possibly could with the engine Chassis Combo that they've been using all your long not introducing new variables and then building from there and apparently even Valentino Rossi. who had been working much more with the carbon fiber swing arm in that dual exhaust? Even he's gone back to basics too and I'm not one hundred percent certain but it does look like. He ditched the dual exhaust in Thailand but ran the carbon fiber swing arm. And you can correct me if I'm wrong. But then he got rid of the carbon-fiber swing arm starting Emoji and went all the way back to the same setup the vanilla was using and of course we all all know that in Japan he looked. Well I mean he got back to where he at least was just off the podium before he had that you know two or three race stumble now vanilla also and this is pretty big. He also credited Bob Coiro and Mave omitted that he used the kids data from all of his sessions to help improve his style and the bike especially especially when it came to breaking since both of those guys are very good late breakers and so he figured hey if he's strong on the brakes as well potentially learn slight differences as you know things that he's doing a little bit differently than I am. That might make me a little bit better to and vice versa. And that I'm sure is kind of difficult for a motive. GP Rider harder to do to give someone else credit. Let alone a rookie on a satellite team. And you know I was reading an article and I don't have the specifics of it in front of me but I was reading an article all that I think. GP One did with both Valentino. Rossi AAH Maverick penalizes a team. Engineers the guys who analyzed the data and one of the things that they said is that that Valentino is constantly even now. We know he's done this throughout his career but even now he's realizing and admitting that hey part of the reason I'm struggling part of the reason I'm not as good as mark is because I'm not writing the same way as mark. We're not writing the same ways fabu quarry even Maverick Fan. y'All less and so in addition to to analyzing data to be able to make adjustments to the bike. He's just is locked in as Vanilla said he was on analyzing the data to modify the way that he rides the bike so he can ride more like the kids do and the more successful riders still and there was somebody in the facebook comments who I can't remember I apologize. I can't remember who said this. The pointed out that you know what even today Rossi is working hard even though he doesn't have the results for it and it was kind of comparing Rossi to Lorenzo in that respect where Lorenzo doesn't look like he's trying nearly as hard And that's a that's good support for that observation. I mean when his own team members are like yeah. He's trying everything. He can to adapt his style of writing and to adjust to how you're supposed to ride today instead of simply expecting the engineers to make the bike worked for him. And you know recreate the eight. Two thousand eight or two thousand nine or something like that so that definitely speaks to Rossi's interest in continuing to be competitive not just continuing to be a writer her But going back maverick. For a second straightforward mavericks answers are about why they're faster now than they used to be. It does bring up a couple of questions because if the problem. Tom Was really truly electronics. Based why couldn't they solve it before. Now it's not like the writers haven't been saying for two and a half years now. Our problems are electronics. Based you know so you think they would be able to made this type of progress much earlier than they have a second question if obvio- is leaving the way it is some of these answers than what does that mean for twenty twenty one and beyond because Yamaha shouldn't lose this kid. We're going to talk about this many times between now and the signings. You don't WANNA lose somebody. Nobody like Fabio Quattro. If he's as a rookie helping your veteran factory riders get better results. So how's that can influence them as they start to do right or negotiations moving forward. And then you know by taking that philosophical step backwards and tossing out the new parts getting rid of the carbon-fiber swing arm getting rid the deal exhaust and whatever else they might have been hiding under the bearings and just building from there. Are they moving forward or are they moving backwards. And I'll explain. Explain what I mean by that because obviously the performance is better right now than it was just a few months ago but right now doesn't matter next year next year is what matters and while the wind violas is great. Not if it comes at the expense of figuring out those new parts figuring out the swing arm figuring Out The exhaust especially since the carbon fiber swing arm is the direction that all of the teams are headed right now. Now that being said I mean make no mistake. The electronics are the foundation and without those tuned to the rider and vice versa and tuned to the characteristics of the particular motor in the bike. Then it's going to we different. It would be difficult for them to just jump to the next level of being title contenders by Bolting. If you knew parts on I mean just ask. KTM How that works out. But even if they get things perfect on the current bike and they'd go out there this weekend and dominated Valencia. You never know what the introduction or the reintroduction in this case of those different parts arts the parts that they were testing for two thousand twenty before what reintroducing those is going to do to the overall balance and the last thing that Yamaha's going to want to do is have to go back and start over for again because they changed apart all while mark and Honda are pushing even further forward. So that's the risk. It's a small risk. I really think that the important part is they get the electronics squared away. And that's what they're working on so I think they're addressing the most important part I but they do still need to consider what's going to happen when you then start changing the system. I'm after you may or may not have perfected it on and speaking of Mark Let's talk about him but let's do it in the context of what we're currently discussing and the performance sub boost at Yamaha what they've been able to do recently on then we'll go back to Sapang you know. Mark didn't need to win that race and in all honesty. I think that was one of those rare circumstances Malaysia where the points were more important to him both in terms of the prospects of the team championship. which are still trying to win and he might be able to win this weekend and and for the single season point record which he got so one could argue? That Yamaha did have a little bit of an advantage over Marquez. Since they could risk more they didn't care if they went for twenty five and got zero. Where Mark Dig care? He would have something to lose. Had He gone for twenty five points and gotten zero but despite that Mark said Yeah. You know what I've definitely noticed the recent Yamaha surge and I'm taking it very seriously. And he's already pudding Yamaha alongside Andrea Co so on his list of main contenders for two thousand twenty. And he also Fabio Quattro into that category too not just the factory riders. There's now if I'm being honest I think mark does this every year just to try to jinx's competitors and if that is his goal his success rate is pretty pretty good because remember last year he identified Andrea ditsy also enjoins Zarko as his main competitors. And we all know how that went for Zarko. I'm and he said before. The year started after preseason testing when Lorenzo look pretty good he said Hey. I'm not going to underestimate my teammates ability. The challenge eligible for wins and the championship. and well we really know how that went for Lorenzo. So maybe he's saying the same thing hoping he jinx's Fabio Sharara Yamahas Now I do think I do think that one part of him saying that is a level of respect for mark especially when it comes to Andrea Video. And you know the other Odyssey's talking about Venezuela's Rossi Ossie. We know they are talented. They just haven't had the bike and now that it looks like it's getting a little bit better. Well he's you know he's noticing that he's recognizing that but I do think that when mark says things like that it is part head game and it would be very clever if it was trying to get them the relax a little you know the thing. Hey marks noticed us he thinks for threat. You know. We've done enough to be fast so we don't need to push quite as hard it toward the future. We need to start tweaking right now. Right I know I might be stretching that a little bit but I think there's a chance market has some strategy about naming the riders that he's quote unquote worried about is if they lower their guard a little bit. I know of I was is that good. I would say stuff like that for that specific reason. See if I couldn't convince them to you know take me a little less seriously or they might have everything solved already and while we're on the topic of Marquez. Our cast by the way. I can't not mention my new favourite motor GPD boss and Alberto push and I think he is actually passed G my book because he's just so darn controversial and entertaining and sometimes such ridiculous stuff is she. She never says anything ridiculous. He's just controversial and entertaining tanning but push comes out with some weird stuff from time without and he did in Sapang he said after Pang that the only reason that marked dim win that race is because he lost so much time. Battling Jack Miller for position in the first couple of laps and I think that Alberto's assessment tiny a bit skewed on that one. No doubt Jack Miller was difficult to pass. He doesn't make it easy on anyone and nor should he But the only reason the only reason that Marc Marquez was battling Jack Miller at all is because he started eleventh. So I'm sorry Alberto but Jack Miller Miller didn't prevent Marc Marquez from winning. Qualifying prevented Mark Marquess from winning. Jack was just doing his job. He was being a fierce competitor. And you can't blame anybody for that and you can't blame mark not winning on that. If market qualified on the front row he would have never even seen Jack Miller in that race continuing with the Honda theme the last Ryder. I want to talk about before the break is definitely the most interesting Honda rider from the last race and really the most interesting Honda rider of the entire season. Even even though he's only been on the bike twice that is of course Jones Arco and we can only speculate. How things would have gone for John if he hadn't hadn't gotten taken out by Joanne Mirror but he seemed to be realistic about his chances after the race figuring the before the crash she was probably GonNa wind up eighth but he was hoping that he might have gotten the chance to take on Fabio Quattro for seventh which I am sure is not just because they're both French? That's the reason that Dr Koga gave. He's wanting to get up there and battling because it would be fun for the French riders Right No. I don't think that's at all I think that just a little bit. He wanted the best the rookie. That pretty much assumed his role of the next big thing coming out of Yama and at the same time making a very subtle statement at the Honda and everybody else that he could go out and beat the rider that everybody's talking about even if that rider wasn't necessarily one hundred percent healthy now. Joanne went on to say the next thing on his list. For the season finale. This weekend is to try to make things a little bit more automatic riding the bike so he can focus solely on racing. Not where all the stuff is on an unfamiliar bike all the buttons. All the levers things like that and he says if he can do that he can move up even further and compete with the best riders again relatively bold statement for sure. We'll see can back it up this weekend. But he's already targeting a trip straight into q two and if he does is that and then he can compete legitimately for a top five. Oh Man I don't WanNa know what's going to happen Monday after the season's over because he could get really interesting really really quick. Let's do this. Let's take a quick break. When we come back we've got a little bit of motor? GP News talk about only a couple of stories. But we're also GonNa talk about some rumors twenty twenty rumors twenty twenty one rumors. You don't want to miss those so don't go anywhere stick around. There's more coming up on the photo. Week podcast Yeah and welcome back to mode a week. My name is Wilson. I'm your host. Thank you so much for listening. I really do appreciate it. Also thanks to the volume remote for the music during the break if you want to check out more from TV are all you have to do. Is Head to their facebook page facebook dot com slash the volume remote get details. They're on their new EP. Which is out now on spotify and and I- tunes a market so in the first half of the show we talked a little bit about Sapang and some of the reaction to what we talked about a lot of your comments second half of the show news 'em? AM rumors will start with the news. Then we go to some rumors and then we'll come back to some news The big news heading into Valencia weekend eaker like alone. Who just found out that he he was going to motor? GP Next season now. He's found out he's actually going to motor. GP This weekend that he will be filling in for. Miguel Olivera Valencia. This weekend and in all honesty this makes perfect sense mom Oliveira after that big wreck at Phillip Island. He gets a few extra days to recover before he has to hit the track for testing for twenty twenty and you know a little extra track time under race conditions. This weekend isn't going to do a ton of good at this point anyway. I mean it's better for him to get the maximum amount of rest and then go after twenty twenty as opposed to focusing on race. You know that really means nothing for his season. Nothing for his is future this weekend. And then when you look at it from like Alana's point of view it's a similar story for him. I mean he really doesn't stand to gain anything from another round of Moto too but what kind of valuable experience could he get out there this weekend on emoji Pe- bike in a zero pressure environment. No expectations no parts to test no rookie of the year to worry about. Just go out there. Have Fun get used to the bike. And he gets that Freebie under actual race conditions and he gets to see what a real race weekend is going to be like. And you know you could argue that. It's not the best idea to take a rookie and make their first experience on a motor. GP Bike be an actual race weekend. But this isn't a bad place being a heck of a lot slower and more technical you Valencias far friendlier for rider trying to get acquainted with the motor. GP Bike on race weekend than you know. Say Phillip Island or really any of the flyway races with what they're bigger speeds and much harder breaking zones so tech three and like a WanNa get a head start on twenty twenty Olivera gets a couple more days to rest to get better and I'm sure he's going to be on hand to help the youngster figure out the bike so it's a win win all the way around now wouldn't expect anything out of luck. I mean. Obviously you know even getting in the points would be a huge. Would you compliment for him. But it's just great experience so I think it's the best possible scenario for them so while luck alone gets moved up early and gets a promotion before he expected. Did it well the other side of that coin Yoenis Vulgar. He thought he was going to be a Yamaha. Test Rider next season. Apparently that's not going to be the case and this is an interesting story. Because according the onus things have been going just fine he had been talking the amaha about their collective test plans for twenty twenty what they were going to work on when they were going to work on it and he was just simply waiting for an official contract for him to sign and then they unexpectedly sacked him now. It's strange for sure but I think there's likely more to this story that we don't know what it could be several things really. I'm sure I suppose. They just want Japanese test riders. That's what that's the reason that bulger gave. He said he was told by the team that they only wanted to go with Japanese test strider. That's why he wouldn't be coming back but I don't know I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense I mean Yamaha is committing Silvano. Gaba Sarah to head up the European testing. That's Valentino Rossi's outgoing crew chief. So they're putting somebody who they really really trust who. I'm sure they're paying a lot of money in charge of that program and we all know that they are under intense pressure. They have to make some serious progress over the off season to try to keep up with Honda and do Khadi. I can't imagine that with their backs up against that kind of wall and having somebody like album Sarah in charge of the program that they would you know. Go ahead and ditch the idea of going with the the most experienced test rider. They could find just to have some hometown riders instead or rather to only go with hometown routers instead especially considering the success other manufacturers are having using more experienced motor. GP Test Riders So I'm not quite sure that's really and that might have been what they told him. But I don't know if that's the real scenario and instead the next scenario to me is a lot more likely than that. That Yamaha already has someone else in mind. Someone with with more experienced than folgar someone who can provide more informed feedback than Yoenis Ken There were rumors floating around Bradley. Smith might be on their radar. And then there's the ever present possibility that show and Zarko is still on the board as well because if Han Lorenzo agree to continue on while then obviously Zarko has no spot on the motor. GP Grid and then it kind of becomes a fifty fifty thing. Maybe he'll try. And grab a last minute motive to ride with either audio or data volt to good teams that have seen open or he could take the Omaha test. Hydro whichever he thinks is going to give him. The best chance to return to the premier class full-time either way both of those riders Bradley Smith or Zarko have have more motor. GPA experienced than folder. And they've had their best success. Each of those riders has on Yamaha. And so that could be working against him now. There is another possibility early. And I'm just throwing this out there. It is possible that Folgar did something on his own. That made Yamaha lose a bit of confidence in him. And I don't know if this is the the case or not but with the way he kinda drifted off from tech three and didn't get back to them in the off season and Harvey Paltrow wanted him but he wasn't really responding. You consider that it is possible the same thing where something similar happened here because remember fogler was adamant for a little while that he was is going to go back to moto two full time and even took those film rides with patroness if he was certain that a deal was in the works back. Then it's very possible he could lost focus or lost interest in his communications with Yamaha and that could ultimately influence their decision. Now if I had to speculate I had to guess I would bigger. It's probably probably the second of those options. That Yamaha already has someone else in mind and now knowing that they are going to get their target whether it be Zarko Smith or somebody else they felt comfortable cutting ties with vulgar before they get into the test season The downside of course for Folgar is that he isn't left with very many options this late in the game and that was something he mentioned as well saying that he turned down multiple opportunities mode two and a world superbike specifically to he remained with Honda as a test rider. But I think there might be a bit of a spin in that common as well because I would imagine that. The vast majority of riders. NATO would much rather take an opportunity to go racing again. full-time as opposed to opting to stay in that test will not everybody I mean. How many times was Casey stoner asked if you wanted to come back full-time and he said No? I'm just doing this. A daily Pagosa was given the opportunity to ride that Cam and he said no I would much rather be a test rider and maybe folders the same way with the illness and the Vertigo like symptoms that he feels from time to time. I'm sure being a test. Rider is a much better way to be able to stay involved in the sport without having to worry that his illness is going to take an opportunity away from him so he might be right about that. He might have genuinely turned down those other opportunities to continue and you to be a test rider but I honestly think that the only reason if that were the case that Yamaha would get rid of him at that point is if they felt like they had somebody better lined up that they knew that they were gonna be able to bring in for the off season and twenty twenty all right. So that's the writer news heading into the weekend now. It is rumored time and no. We're not going to start with twenty twenty one rumors but rather with rumours for next season because now that we're done with the Yamaha drama with vulgar. Now we're GONNA talk about some new Khadi Drama. It is back. They may no longer have Lorenzo but that does not mean that the second seat factory to Kati still isn't worth some good old fashioned controversy and and would denote pitcher cheese struggles. The second half of the season with the Italian media is hot on the idea that do coty may elect to swap between Danilo Nilo and Jack Miller for next season giving Jack a shot with the factory team Walker true. She is demoted. Back to the MAC bike now. PREMED team boss Francesco. Gaddi auty tried to put the Kabosh on all those rumors in a conversation with speed week. A few days ago no no relation by the way even though we both have the same last name But that he said that not only is there not a whole lot of basis for those rumors of a swap but also that they aren't all that interested in having Danilo back Apprai- AMAC not because they don't like him they let him just fine. He's a good guy but just because they've already been down that road they've already gone that route and the protruding moved on. Why would they go backwards? Now I would think I would think that he's right in at this point. Everybody signed their contracts for twenty twenty. And why would you want to rock the boat. Oh why create some controversy by making that type of switch but the rumors are easy to understand because there are multiple reasons why a swap could happen regardless regardless of what he says of. First Miller's contract is with pray Mac it's directly to Kati just like team-mate Petco Back Nyas and since two coty controls both Jack and Danilo contracts with the fact that the announcement has already been made. Who's going to be writing? What next season doesn't really have a whole lot of bearing bring in the situation? Do COTY could simply change their mind. And make the move depending on the particulars of course riders contract and as a side note too that we already know that. Danilo 's hold hold on that factory seat is heavily performance contingent and always has been so it is very possible that there's a clause in his contract that would allow Coty Audie to move him back to the satellite squad. Now who knows. If there's a similar clause in Jack's contract going the other way but that's kind of irrelevant because I mean Jack's not GonNa Start waving his contract in the air and saying no if Tocado for move him up to the factory team right. Nobody would That's the first thing the second thing Cherchi isn't the future as far as do Sukati is concerned. You know they've never been huge fans of Petacci as a rider could move the championship needle. Could go out there and win multiple races and it was almost begrudgingly grudgingly that he got the opportunity to be on the factory team at all it was more about. You know stopping the drama in the wake of the Lorenzo madness than anything plus on top half of that. He'll be thirty next season. And it's really rare for thirty plus Ryder to increase his win. Totals Andre. The video is the exception. Not The rule here and do coty not know that and with Dole getting older you know they're going to start to get more and more eager to look toward the future and with Jack still being so young and looking so much more comfortable competing for podiums than their other young rider and Pegu Bag Nyah. I wouldn't be surprised at all for them to take that you know. The future is now approach coach and not want to hold Miller back for another year and the timing will be perfect really with bag. Naya definitely not ready to move up. Yet they will be able to elevate jack now while L.. PETCO is still developing rather than waiting until the end of next year when they could could not definitely could end up in a much more difficult position Shen if both Miller Anglia are performing equally well on the pre Mac bikes at the end of the season and the only one sought to fill. I mean assuming that they're going to re-sign dovy which I imagine they will and also making that move could make things easier for primary as well. This goes back to our friend. Something we've talked about in the first half of the show primarily lost their Alma sponsorship earlier in the year do the legal troubles with the company. Yet they are committed to an extra one million euros. And we're talking about about that. Before with Suzuki and satellite teams and patroness and sky. Here's a perfect example of the extra burden on one of those satellite teams to make take a a top level. A SPEC style bike happened. The number for pre MAC is one million one million euros. It costs them. One million euros more are or will cost them that much more next year to lease a factory SPEC bike for Jack Miller as opposed to leasing a lower SPEC bike now if they get a new sponsor committed soon while then no big deal. They've got the money they can do. Whatever they want and Jack and have the SPEC bike no problem but if they have trouble finding someone to replace Alma would then swapping Miller out for petrosky could be the difference in saving them the money they need to save because to Kati them would be giving Jack the SPEC? I promised him. Because he's on the factory team. Then on the flip side of that they could go to Church E and say. Hey you had your chance. You couldn't live up to it. So we're GONNA send you back to pre MAC and by by the way you're going to have to write a SPEC bike at the same time it saves pray Mac that one million extra euros they were gonNA spend next season that they don't have because of their sponsor answer and then it works out for everybody so get out he says No. It's not going to happen. Although specific comment by the way included the words quote. Everything is possible in racing facing end of quote. That's prefaced. Nothing's going to happen by saying anything could happen. I but there are a lot of reasons that it would make sense. Both performance admits wise future wise and financially so I would not necessarily be surprised even though it would be a drastic move. I wouldn't be surprised if it is not the last. We've heard yet out of that rumor. A moving on the more rumors for next season the other big talk is about the situation surrounding Lorenzo at Honda especially in in light of joins Arcos direct to Q.. Two weekend and Sapang coupled with what looked like it was going almost certainly going to be a top ten performance while Lorenzo languished once again at the back of the points now. The talk is that Lorenzo could decide to retire. But it's looking more more like that's not the case and what's it's kind of taken. Its place. Is this silent standoff. According to rumors between him. NHRC one that has really been intensified in solidified by the arrival and the promising results. Put up already by Zarko. Honda on their side is steadfast. That they don't want to pull in Apprecia- and not honor the full length of Riders Contract Act and on the other side. Lorenzo is dead set on getting that big fat paycheck and more importantly being on any bike next year. Because that's going to make could easier for him to net some other right for twenty twenty one even if that means another terrible season with more bad finishes so those are the rumors and that's what the situation situation looks like but whore hey was out there defending himself from multiple angles this week as he represented Honda an international motorcycle show in Milan. He blamed his poor performance this year mainly on his physical condition and he said that he thinks he'll feel quite a bit better for Valencia. But he really cannon needs another month and a half off during the winter break to rest and play video games and eat potato chips and get back to one hundred percent strength. Okay maybe say all of that But he also because it is Lorenzo. He also did offload some of the blame onto the bike is well fully embracing the aforementioned cal Crutchley standpoint component that nobody but mark can really extract the maximum performance out of the Honda and that they're handling problems that he and the team are really trying to sort Out and that's the other major component of his bad finishes going on to add that he's really hopeful that the twenty twenty prototype that they have ready for the Valencia test is GonNa get along better with him and there are some others out there saying that. He's not GonNa make any decision at all until he gets on that. Twenty twenty prototype runs that Valencia testing and we might find out immediately after that test what he's decided to do personally when it comes to him and the team but he also had a response of his Arcos encouraging performance and Sapan. Because remember what we were talking about earlier. It's Arco goes out there and get on the podium or gets a top five even in Valencia. It shoots some pretty big holes in that theory that nobody but Mark Kim ride the bike that way right now you could write it off as beginner's luck but he started at one level at Phillip Island then he took a step forward and Sapang if he takes another step forward in Valencia. It's GonNa look more more like it's not a fluke right because he got better every single time on the bike but Lorenzo also had a response four four Sarkozy encouraging performance. Admitting that Johann was faster than he was but that he was on a different model bike. Remember he's on the two thousand eighteen two thousand nineteen bike which may or may not be faster for Lorenzo too. I guess we'll never know. Lorenzo went back to preseason testing when when he was on the two thousand eighteen Honda he his best performances ever for Honda even though there were only in testing and so he kind of has it set in his mind that somehow some way for the average rider the two thousand eighteen bike is an easier bike derived fast than the two thousand nineteen bike and then going back to that whole you know wearing the armor of the cow crush low argument. Nobody can do it the way that mark and do it on this particular bike so I guess what we're left with is we just have to. You know assume assume that the two thousand nineteen bike might be holding back and that the year old stuff. That's Arcos riding throws off the comparison. Somehow I don't know that seems like a bit of a stretch just to me but what do I know. I'm not the five time champion in the room. Lorenzo is so he certainly came prepared. Lorenzo absolutely had his ducks in a row for the interview circuit at that At that international bike show. But that doesn't mean that the Honda Dramas over by any stretch of the imagination. And that doesn't have the potential angel to become much bigger than the duke. Odi Rumor that we just talked about the bike swab. Obviously Lorenzo leaves or is forced out. That's going to be a way bigger story. And then the other than the other part of that the flip side of that is the Zarko hasn't signed anything yet for next year himself and we know that he's had a firm offer from Yamaha that'd be a test rider and he came out and specifically said that he thinks going back to Motoo for a year would be the best move for him and as a result multiple moto two teams have approached him including Archea whose team and they have a vacancy and so two Stein a volt and either of those bikes would certainly be very competitive in that series but even with those types of opportunities in front of him. He hasn't given anybody in answer so the two things that he specifically said he wanted to do. Test Free Amaha first and then go to a top moto two team. Both of those things are on the table right now sitting right in front of him and he hasn't said yes to either yet. Why I think we all know the answer to that because he's waiting on Honda? Which means that either? Honda is still undecided. On Lorenzo or Lorenzo is still undecided. Did on Honda and with everybody standing there in a circle and pointing left that means that the opportunity is absolutely. Everything's to get pretty crazy both in and out of the media Over the next week or two as things start to play out especially when you consider that Alberto push was spotted hanging around in the garage a couple of weeks ago so while Zarco was on the bike. That's not an accident. So those are the twenty twenty rumors. Now Onto Twenty Twenty one as Marc Marquez is. Already trying to deflect elect rumors about the upcoming silly season. He was also there with her. Hey representing Honda at that international motorcycle show this week. Where Markelle the the the news outlet not the person awesome talk to mark so mark and Markelle sat down and he was already asked? Mark was not Markelle About potential move after after next season it's like a Abbott and Costello Sketch over here So marquess was asked about next season and he would made a politician very proud with with his answer. Deflecting the question quite nicely by saying that he wants to continue with Honda for many years because it feels like they're his family and he's grateful that they gave him the opportunity to be successful emoji. P Now I do believe that he would prefer to stay with Honda. But when you start throwing out things like family and opportunity as opposed to winning and money then it makes me think that you're hedging a little bit because I don't believe anything any writer who says before contract negotiations really start especially when they use those generic feel good type of terms. And I'm not even sure to believe them until a final contract is actually announced because there is going to be a lot of temptation for Markelle jumped ship after next year. Whether it be for Jarvis payday with someone or else just for the sheer challenge and the legacy building Opportunity of being able to win a championship and win races onto different bikes so even though he was relatively Tivoli straightforward with his answer the language used makes me think that okay he was given out the line because after all he was there representing Honda. He's not going to say well. I'm GONNA look around and instead he just simply said Oh but I love Honda and I'm sure he does doesn't mean he's not GonNa look around between now and next year All right so let's wrap up the show with three rule changes that were announced for twenty twenty The first of those motoo wildcard starts are back next season. The Grand Prix Commission had shelved the idea for this year. Because is there weren't sure there'd be enough extra triumph engines or particular Chelsea's for whatever manufacturer you go with that will be available if a lot of people wanted to run wild card braces but now the production of both engines and chassis. Ramped up while cards will be allowed again. which should be fun The second rule rookies will get an extra chance to test emoji. VP This off season since overall premier class testing has been reduced. Because of extra races. Rookies will now be able to participate in the three day. SHAKEDOWN testing Malaysia. February second through the fourth which is immediately before the official test and that test would typically only be open to test riders and two concessions uh-huh teams. Of course the interesting part of this rule is that the only riders affected for two thousand twenty. Are Brad Bender and Ecolo who both of course ride concession manufacturing. KTM So it's all a bit of a moot point this time around but I do like the role in general because even though it's an increased cost for the team to be able to run another another bike with a rookie rider out there. There's nothing bad about getting a rookie. More seat time before they get into actual race conditions so even factory rookie writer will be able to get in some extra laps. And I don't think there's anything bad about that at all. So those two kind of monitoring changes the third. Actually there's four things just that the last two Kinda a fall under the aero dynamic blanket So it's a two parter number one motor. GP winglets can be removed from the bike next year. Justin Phillip Island went after Miguel Alvarez wreck a few weeks back teams will now be allowed to remove their winglets which apparently are now known as pods so we have to call them aero pods. I guess I'M GONNA call him winglets and they'll be able to take them off just at the Australian. GP without accounting as an era dynamic update against their faring allotment as long as they only remove the wing portion. And don't you know modify any of the main faring underneath it now in addition restriction can also allow the removal of those pods winglets At other events if when conditions are dangerous but teams can't make that decision themselves race direction has to say okay you can take them off now for safety reasons than it can take them off. Apparently though the wind can really get under those and push the bike around quite a bit so that's the first thing but the bigger role involving the pods pods. which sounds alien? When you say I'm just GONNA say winglets I guess But the bigger role is the one limiting the amount of flex on owing land. This is probably this came a few days after the other announcements likely because it was harder to get everyone to agree on specific parameters but until now there have been very few specific rules also on winglets or pods for that matter outside of their maximum dimensions and the fact that they have to be closed and kind of incorporated in a streamlined. Way into the firing hiring by now. How do Qadis or Zukis? Big Boxes or Hans Bowtie or streamline is beyond me but like I said there have been very few specific rules outside of general dimensions and general royal parameters but one more specific role that will be implemented next season. They'll be a maximum amount of flexible oude in those aerodynamic bits right and that's to prevent any planned unintentional quote unquote wing flex that may serve the same purpose as active aerodynamics apart that woodcock drag because it's sitting in the airstream flexes out of the airstream at higher pressures that go along with higher speeds by goes faster. Now she she Adelina was asked about the new rule this week and he said that everybody agreed to it but he wouldn't specifically say if the rule was put in place to target one one or more manufacturers designs but you know what let's face it the majority of the rules that the GP commission degrees on our reactionary. As opposed to proactive. Have so either. Somebody is currently using a super bendy wing or somebody's testing a super bendy wing and everybody knows about it and they WANNA put a stop to it before before it gets out of control. So that'll do it for this episode of the program. Next up the Valencia preview. 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Tara Calico Cold Case And A Thank You!

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Tara Calico Cold Case And A Thank You!

"Off Hi everybody. This is Drew with the once was lost missing persons Edition here. First. I want to thank everyone for putting up with last last week episode on the Johnny Gosch episode. I I just needed to get out with this is all about and it's all about you. It's not about us this podcast is the forward facing segment of the owl once was lost missing persons tool the tool made one day save one of your own family members or just having it ready on your phone. That's all you got to do. So as explained within a moment's notice everything important will be sent out to the legions of our members like troops deployed on a mission. That's how this works the mission of good and God willing we may even just find them in that first crucial hour, but it took you all to make this happen. So the patreon shout out as well worked and we do have patreon support. So again, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for subscribing and writing as well as down. Loading the app that's growing daily many of you becoming a part of the solution because this app is free and it's maintained by Nick Conway. He's constantly updating the app so that you all are kept safe from harm. The podcast is one man Rodeo as well and its role of being the front facing tool. We also must be supported so we can get better with each episode and the production gets better with each episode. So thank you for putting up with our crudeness and thank you all for the support and well-wishes. We've received seen films of you understand that it is we are dealing here and you know that we are growing. So if you also want to be a part of the solution, please go to ww.w. Patreon was loss. That's o n c e w a s l o s t once was lost and pledged $3 a month so that we can be ready for anything that comes our or your way. Let's get this going. We're going home. Got the character. Kala KO kase on this episode. There's a lot of info and a lot of updates. Let's just get this going. So on the morning of September 20th, 1988. Nineteen year-old Tere KO left her home in Belen, New Mexico to embark on a 36 mile bike ride along New Mexico State Road 47 the events of that morning weren't unusual for calling to Tara's mother Patty dull her daughter bike this route almost daily before leaving around 9:30 a.m. Tara asked prophetically for her mom to come get her if she wasn't home by noon because she had plans with her boyfriend that day that he agreed and unknowingly said goodbye to her daughter for the last time when she didn't return by 12 p.m. Patty set out find her and after driving back and forth twice, there was no sign of Terror along their normal route that she used to bike. So as Panic set in Patty called the Valencia County Sheriff's Department to Rome. or daughter missing four weeks investigators searched the area local and State Police as well as hundreds of volunteers combed the area on foot horseback four wheelers and planes off the only evidence. They found were pieces of terrorist broken Sony Walkman and bike tracks her stepfather Jon Dole recalls that the track marks look more like skids. Perhaps assign a struggle. Although no one witnessed an abduction seven people later reported that they saw Tara riding back toward her home at roughly 11:45 a.m. She was said to page her headphones on and multiple Witnesses recalled in older model pickup trailing behind her is believed that the truck was pulling his shelf camper. And in the first nine months of his Terror disappeared. This was the only information investigators did obtain. Until June nineteen eighty nine when a strange development swept the nation a woman in Port st. Joe Florida spotted a gruesome Polaroid photo in the parking lot of a convenience store. Excuse me, you guys need to go to the once was lost. I'm sorry once was lost our Internet site or site which you can also find just by going to a sonder Productions com. I believe you can also find it to you know to Sender looking at pull up a Pew podcast and the owl was lost podcasts. But anyway, those pictures are uploaded onto the site so you can check them out or you can just look them up online. It's pretty easy to find so the police were immediately contacting a woman told them that a windowless Toyota cargo van was parked there when she entered the store. She described the van's driver as a man with a moustache who appeared to be in his 30s in officers set up dead. Roblox, but the vehicle was never found Polaroid officials confirmed that the picture had to be taken after May nineteen eighty nine because the type of film use had just recently been made available. The picture was shown on a current affair on the following month and Friends watching the show contacted the Dole's noticing similarities between Tara and the girl photograph relatives of Michael Henley and nine year old boy was missing a New Mexico in May of 1988 also saw the episode and thought the boy resembled Michael the Dolby Henley's met with investigators to examine the picture Patty Dolan Henley's mother both asserted that the picture was of their children Tara had a scar on her leg that was identical to the woman's a picture Patty also pointed out a visible copy of my sweet Audrina by VC Andrews in the Polaroid, which was terrorists favorite book and we discussed that in the very first episode. Course the dolls had the photo analyzed by the Scotland Yard. Also who determined that it was Tara but the Valencia County district attorney sent it to the Los Alamos National Laboratories who concluded it wasn't Terror FBI analysis came back inconclusive, but guys, you know, when you look at that picture and you're able to see tears look at the pictures of her look at the picture and the Polaroid I'm telling you it looks exactly like her. There's analysis done of the Year lobes and of the face now the the boy didn't end up breaking Michael Henley, but even so it really does look like look like terrorists so which I'll mention here. So the dolls again, they had it analyzed and the police had analyzed on there and Michael Henley's remains were actually eventually found in the Zuni mountains in nineteen. Ninety roughly seven miles from the campsite where he had disappeared two years early birth. So that answered that this discovery cast immediate doubt that he was the boy in the photograph Foul Play was later ruled out and has presumed that Michael died of hypothermia home for nearly two decades. The unsolved case of Tara Calico went cold, but in the year since 2008 several odd circumstances have thrust her story back into a spotlight. Here's the most recent development. So in 2008 bernabe Rivera a Valencia County Sheriff who joined the Department the year after Tara went missing claimed what happened in an article for the Valencia County news-bulletin. He says he learned that two men possibly teenagers who knew Tara were driving behind her and accidentally hit her bike. He thinks Panic drove off with Tara And then killed her he alleges that to other men were involved after the murder and have knowledge on the location of terrorists body. You said we do have a case to put together here, but we want to make sure that this case is a concrete case to where we'll be able to effectively do our jobs. We're just waiting to get a little more evidence her bicycle her clothing or Terror herself. Rivera is quoted as saying in the article. Patty told died in 2006. Unfortunately, John Doe learned of Rivera's statements through the media and ridiculed the announcement questioning why the sheriff would comment without enough evidence to make an arrest as of now, no arrests have been made and Rivera has not publicly named any suspects. But according to his article on the investigation discovery website page is still mid-teens this Theory going so far as to say that the boys families could have even been involved in the cover-up. So that was in 2008 and 2009 we have this information. So Port Saint Joe police chief David Barnes received a photograph of a young boy with a black marker drawn over his mouth made to look like the 1989 photo Barnes was May the second letter containing an original image of the boy. On the day that Barnes second letter was postmarked not his letter but the Star newspaper in Port st. Joe received the same image of the boy with the marker over his mouth as the star was turning the letter over to police. The Gulf County Sheriff's Department was dealing with another odd coincidence that had a a psychic called and reported having visions of the case. The woman claimed Tara was buried in California and described blue Oldsmobile car authorities dismissed her account, but noted The Peculiar timing. Now we moving up the 2013 the case is reopened by local and federal agents A 6-person task force was selected and included Agents from Homeland Security that the New Mexico State Police Department the Valencia County Sheriff's Office the Albuquerque Police Department and the Bernalillo County Sheriff's Office. He gets back in fashion was made by a man named Henry brown brown told police that his neighbor Lawrence Romero Jr. And several friends openly discussed killing Tara on the day that she went missing a Romero's father was devanti County Sheriff at the time of terrorist disappearance Brown's confession and subsequent documents are public record and can be found. You can look up information in 2019. And this is I made an update to this online. So some of that information is in here this past October the FBI announced a reward of $20,000 for anyone who had information that would lead to the location of Tara Calico or the arrest of those responsible for her disappearance. The FBI released a progression photos showing what Tara would look currently like today. It's worth noting that two additional Polaroid's have been associated with the case one was found near, Arkansas. Directions site in Montecito California, the film was made after June nineteen eighty nine. The other was taken on film available after February Nineteen Ninety Six photo is quite blurry, but Patty dull believe it could be her daughter because the girl appears to have a cowlick and amblyopia in one eye as Doterra June 2nd is widely regarded as a gag photo Hachi not been tragically taken so soon. Tara would have celebrated her 51st birthday on February 28th of this year here and I are actually the same age as why this cake is so important to me her family maintained hope and she would someday be found alive. But Jon Dole and tear his brother Chris know it's unlikely that she'll ever or actually that you know that you're still out there alive in 2018. Chris discussed Patty's heartache with People magazine. Mom really did not want to believe that she was dead. Patty's spent the palm of her life is starting at the girl in the Polaroid was Tara and it was her glimmer of hope that she would someday be reunited with her daughter the case has been unsolved for over 30 years, but it's anything but called perhaps in 2020. This is the year the Terra and the Dole's finally get Justice. This was by Thought Catalog blog is where I'm getting this information, which is written by Jordan windnagle. This was all updated on March 15th 2020. So, please consider being a part of the owl family and a part of the solution and support our effort to dig into the obscene stats on missing people. We can make a difference here, please subscribe to the podcast download the owl once was lost phone application as well be ready at any time with that app to set it and forget it. Please go to a patreon forward slash once was lost and help out with just a $3 a month pledged and being a loyal supporter and be a part of what we are doing here a part of the solution for you and your family. So I thank you again all from the bottom of my heart will see you on the next episode. This is Drew and I'm out.

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