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GI MINI FAILS: The Island of Dr. Moreau

Ghost Town

25:25 min | 9 months ago

GI MINI FAILS: The Island of Dr. Moreau

"I'm highly and I'm cap and we create beating us so can use a podcast where we discussed nearly as makeup and beauty products but we door with a twist. We liked to feel like with sitting down hanging out with friends having a Chit Chat about. What's new maybe sneaky line so every week we like to bring you all the information on the past week releases yet minus the marketing vs? Yes that's a big one for Ross. The our little bit critical but we also try to be quite lied hotted and bring a little bit of humor to the table. So whether you're a fellow beauty junkie all you just WANNA keep up to date with. What's new come on are bump join us? You can find US wherever you get your podcasts. Let's have a good time. You didn't use you. Didn't use Yay. Yea Welcome to fail your island. I'm Jason Horton. I'm Rebecca Lieb and this. It's ghost town six day. God created man and on the seventh day he rested mm-hmm and on the eighth day in the year two thousand Tan in remote laboratory. Three exiled scientist created something impossible unmistakably Ghibli human undeniably animal on the island of Dr Moreau that my children will folder. Oh my God from director. John Frankenheimer H. G. Wells most terrifying creations uh-huh about the line that separates man from the east of the notorious doctor who dared hard to cross. It goes Marlon Brando. Val kilmer David Saulius the island of Dr Moreau. Have you seen the island of Dr Moreau. I remember it and I've seen some of it but but it just never watched the whole thing. I used to watch it my parents basement because all we really did was like try to drink my parents alcohol and go and watch horrible movie was we would get at the blockbuster is one thousand. Nine hundred eighty five eighty six six American Science Fiction Horror Film Adaptation of eighteen ninety six novel the island of Doctor Moreau by H G wells and the film is deliciously bad just as like a short synopsis. There's an island and and the the doctor on the island likes to splice cats mostly but also other animals and human beings genes to create eight kind of actually now that I think that cats is very relevant movie to bring into the mix with this. 'cause cats and out of Roger Moore are pretty similar in there really confusing own uncomfortable yet. Still very entertaining. Experience the documentary lost soul doomed journey of Richard Stanley's island of doctrine row which came out in two thousand fourteen. I saw at Cinna family the now defunct movie house and he was there and I met him and I was so excited to see this film and didn't really know anything going in and I was just introduced to this world of chaotic events before I even saw like I knew the movie was bad and it was fun and it was very like a beloved to me but so much happened behind the scenes. In the you won't even believe when I started going. It is the biggest movie failure. I Have I've Dr Ever heard of so we're GONNA get into it and go see that documentary. It's really really good. If you are at all interested in this film plug it a lot. Most of this information is from that documentary so a film version of Doctor. Moreau had been a long standing dream of Richard Stanley who I read the book as a child. He was an indie horror director. Heated music videos. He most famously made hardware and dust devil horns like be kind of campy B horror movies and he was from Africa he was kind of this african-born kind of like like metal looking. He's still kind of like that. Lives in Paris now or something. He spent four years developing the project before getting a green light from new line cinema for some reason and this has never. This doesn't happen anymore. Some fringe indie music director. Filmmaker gets this big production house to make this giant film film based on this intellectual property and puts their money behind it so stanley envisioned a Uruguayan pros now in the lead role. Do you know who that is. He's Induna Daas Boo Tuesday in Beverly Hills cop to it sounds from those movies. Yes Dasa Dasa. I've never seen it but I was like people were pretty high schoolers. Pretty Deduct boot but he knew line managed to secure Marlon Brando which was his like again so preposterous Stanley. When he talked about this movie at the screening he was like how the fuck I get Marlon Brando? Well Sometime later. He learned that new line had gone behind his back and offered the movie to Roman Polanski. And Nats how Brenda was secured. Furious Stanley demanded a meeting with Brenda. Who unexpectedly really proved to be very sympathetic to Stanley's vision not because of his understanding of the filmmaking process but because he was so passionate about island of Dr Moreau the novel the history actually owns one of the first copies he was obsessed with the storyline and really wanted to make it He also talked about Heart of darkness Joseph Conrad Novel which was apocalypse now exactly so Brennan was really impressed by all of this. Also Stanley's own relationship to legendary Mary African explorer Henry Morton Stanley which was one of the chief inspiration for Joseph Conrad's lead character Kurtz so Stanley also these very weird connections that Brando Brando kind of appreciated too and so he was still on board according to Stanley. Brenda was still fascinated by Kurtz more than fifteen years. After he had played a version of the character and Coppola's film so Brando Onboard Stanley confirmed director. He was also able to recruit two more major stars. Especially at the time. Bruce Willis And James Woods beyond these developments daily enthusiastically launched into pre production collaborating with special effects. Creator Stan Wilson and the creation of the makeup and the costumes for Moreau's Miro's hybrid creatures and preparing the location sets however as the time for principal photography approach we start seeing these problems. Bruce Willis Louis dropped out of the film. Stanley says in the documentary that he was divorcing his wife Demi Moore at the time but they didn't really announce it so it's unsubstantiated and Val kilmer Gilmer came in to replace him and volcanoes I he was so hot right then like physically and like just popular remember him the Saint. Yeah I remember. We're having feelings that I never felt watching him be in the Saint Woo. Anyway to Stanley's dismay VAL kilmer could only shoot for forty forty percent of the time that he was required to be on set. So Stanley. Solve the problem when he had kilmer switch from the protagonists the star to the supreme the supporting role Montgomery who had a lot less screen time but that meant James Woods had leave the production new line hurriedly recruited former northern exposure star Rob Moro for the the lead role. Another significant setback occurred not long before the filming began with a suicide Brannagh's daughter. Cheyenne remember that. Oh Yeah I was reading up at their recent. It's pretty so with a new boyfriend friend. I don't actually know what exactly happened. But he's a model she's a model and she like divy abruptly and it's just very Something more research does son like awesome. That would Marlon Brando's son to yes. Yeah it's very tricky. Kill somebody. He was a murderer. Wasn't yeah homeboy. Anyway that's all say about that. So Brando retreated to his private in his own private island off the one of Dr row leaving Stanley and his producers in limbo not knowing whether he would show up or not. Or what deal was he just like kind of cut out for a little while. The chosen location location for the film was the rainforest the Cairns in northern Queensland Australia tensions between Stanley and new line had grown during production partly because of Stanley. He was really really quirky. He was very insular. He didn't WanNa go to studio meetings. He didn't mind like play the game and that kind of makes sense because he's the indy fringe director having to be just thrust into this new role of being this big budget director and it reached a crisis point with the first few days of filming Stanley's vulnerability studio pressure to was exacerbated by the continuing canoeing absence of Marlon Brando. But the biggest problem proved to be the notorious the notorious onset behavior val kilmer who showed up two days late hung out and was just like a bully to everybody especially Stanley kilmer later attributed his obnoxious behavior to the fact that just as filming began he learned from television reported poured that he was being sued for divorce by his wife. Seven Years Joanne. whalley whatever the reasons most of the cast and crew have testified to kilmer's being a piece of shit asshole consistently hostile obstructive to production from the day. He got there till the day left. He wouldn't deliver his dialogue as scripted and he reportedly criticized besides Stanley's ideas with what little footage was. Shot was mostly unusable. Great great job fell comber. The studio mainly seems to blame the director for not getting kilmer under control but another other significant factor was a sudden departure of Co Star Rob Moro on the second day of shooting. So welcome our guests there rob. Moore's like I'm out of here with the location being pound like just the location shouldn't to this is said so brilliantly insurance brilliantly the documentary it's like start shooting and then it's a torrential downpour for six months like it was like a nightmare. It was like a like an emergency situation. kind of a thing like like Charlie wet tarps just like rolling across the Queensland Is Land Tundra so the location was had horrific weather. They had to stop filming in like stop and Start and stop and start and more found himself unable to bear the tension and hostility on the set any longer so he basically was called new line and begged to be let go and so they were like all right. Rob Moro Go. It's time to go home after the third. This is just before the third day of filming on the third day of filming following emergency consultations with its onset executives new line abruptly fired Stanley Stanley by facts. So it's like he's in a tent downpour he can't deal with people very insular. He gets a fax in his tent. That says he is fired. The director reacted angrily shedding the documents in revenge and then vanishing just completely vanishing after being delivered to the airport for the return flight to Hollywood. The reasons reasons for Stanley's dismissal were not made totally clear. Rumors were spread that he had radic behavior but really the main reasons were like he wasn't able to deal the studio he couldn't deal with kilmer he was just in over his head in way more ways than one and that's a pretty honest wait like reason to fire someone but also you're you're already like a already show it's very demoralizing like to fire your director who this is their passion project for years and years and years is not a good look. Stanley have been offered his full fee on condition that he left. The production quietly did not speak about his firing so his disappearance caused consternation on new line who feared he might try the sabotage the filming his removal also predictably sent shockwaves through the cast and crew outraged female for his balk which you may remember from return an Oz almost famous graft the crash of course the crafts which she talks a lot this documentary too so they were actually like buddies I ki- they hung they got along so she stormed off set after a heated exchange with a new line executives and then had a production assistant driver all the way from Cairns to Sydney which is about about a six hour drive like take me to Sydney and this was like okay for who's a bulk in a rented limousine however by her own account Boxx Fox agent then warned her in very short terms that if the studio would ruin her if she quit and she would never work again if she broke her contract she was forced I to have that driver back from Sydney into the thick of things with a budget now approaching seventy million dollars and potential disaster Astra looming new line brought in veteran director named John Frankenheimer he did the Birdman of Alcatraz Manchurian candidate. He came on board in part virtually every other other members of the cast and crew. He wanted to work with Marlon Brando. I'm he also used the studios. Desperation advantage successfully demanding really gigantic fee and a three picture deal in exchange. Thanks for coming in and trying to save this movie. Frankenheimer was kind of the last of those old style. Directors like groff dictatorial. Right vary you just like tightly wound really bad mood very strict. And he soon alienated many of the cast and crew. He and Brando decided to have the then current script. I Richard Richard Stanley just completely rewritten. With a Frankenheimer's previous collaborator Ron Hutchinson. He also needed to find a new lead to replace rob moral and brought in David through list to play Douglas. I don't know if I'm saying that right. He was in the theory of everything. Seven years in Tibet Warhorse. The whole production was shut down for a week and a half while those changes were implemented lamented. which again a lot has happened? We're not even in it yet but a single break because we wanna mention some very special friends of the pod. Yeah we have our own little island Redo. We're no man is an island but a couple of Jewish podcast. We noticed that our friend Chris Chris Witt eighty three His I wanna read his twitter profile. Oh Hell Yeah. He's like I liked the Rasul's ghost mayor of Ghost town pod and he is. He is the ghost. He's he's our mayor yet. He is when you're taxes to him. Yeah he will walk the premises and make make sure that there's no disorderly conduct these. The black sheep of your family is the box. Chris's okay okay. That's very flattering. I have to say I had my ego is all about that and then a pretty nice we talked about reading reviewing and and getting some nice positive messages. We go on those pretty good. That's like a very honest one. No this one is from SCARPA up fourteen. I came around to it. Took me a little bit to adjust to the format but I enjoy the spooky tidbits. The Friday fails which were in right. Bets are and especially fun on short. Listen found this one. Well this I mean this is. We're an island flow back. It's called half TAT's have people people have everything. Yeah well thank you. That's very flattering. And like if you want to rate and review to absolutely appreciate it you know even if you want to donate to our Patriot patriot. Oh you mean patron dot com slash goes down pod. I think that's what I mean because recording is Sweden bonus episode. Right after this. We are listening to this. There's going to be brand new bonus episode and then some of the episodes we do free and they come out a day or two early help. Help support us. Yes you get bonuses and you help us because we might be. We're not going to say Raynham might be going somewhere. The that's top secret. Don't tell anybody anybody here. This is Jason Me and you yeah you look at yourself. Yeah so it kind of helps us. Maybe get there a little bit. Yeah you want us to travel the world or at least the US yeah places. The basically the middle of the United States you want us to go to the Rolling Hills sales of Bill America. Well yeah help us out. Let's get back to the island of Dr Moreau. The island of Doctor Chaos. I I would say now exactly already has a title we've got we're why are you rewrite the artist create content. Okay so we're back. Shooting has resumed. It's been a week and a half but problems continued and they escalated baby. Justin Bieber's the lead signboard. Yeah yeah congratulations. So Brando would routinely spend hours in his air conditioned trailer when he was supposed to be on camera while actors and extras sweltered in the tropical. Heat in full. Makeup and heavy costumes costumes brandon. Kilmer were just not getting along had open hostility resulting in the cast and crew being kept waiting for hours with each actor refusing to come out their respective trailer before the other one classic new pages were turned in only a few days before they were shot Frankenheimer and kilmer had an argument onset which reportedly got so heated. Frankenheimer can hammer stated afterwards. I don't like L. Kilmer. I don't like his work ethic and I don't want to be associated with him ever again bolt. How do you really feel you know? But that really. It's a really a testament to val kilmer but also empathize in that like a pretty big deal to at that point and coming into abyss must've been a lot as well. According to few list's we all had different ideas where it should go. I even ended up improvising. Some of the main scenes with Marlin Lewis went on to rewrite his character. Personally the constantly rights also got on Brando's nerves on many previous productions. He refused to learn lines so he was equipped with a small radio receiver so that his assistant could feed his lines to him as he performed technique he'd used earlier films through the X.. Marlin would be in the middle of a scene. Suddenly he'd be picking up police messages. Repeat there's a robbery at Woolworth's meanwhile friction between him and kilmer elicited. The former's quip your problem. Is You confuse the size of your paycheck that size of your talent. ooh Upon completion of Kilmer's final scene Frankenheimer is reported to have since the crew. Now get that bastard off my said Ou just chill just cool chill island Gig you know also in the documentary. Brando would kind of push this how far he could go with everybody. He didn't like he didn't really like anyone at this point like he kinda like Stanley Stanley only was gone. He barely tolerates. You could see how much you could do like. He is in white face for most of the film which means he's covered in white paint and he's wearing this giant Straw a hat and he's a little personal assistant. Do you remember that in the like the iphone promos. The movie were like really like show obviously showcase Marlon Brando. Oh but it's so bizarre and that was a creative choice that Marlin redder just made because he was like fuck all of this oh my gun. Stanley has reportedly jokingly told the film's production and designer to burn the set down but when Stanley disappeared after his firing security was tightened in case he was actually trying to sabotage the project. Stanley himself later revealed that he had in fact stayed stayed in Australia. Suffered a total emotional breakdown retreated to a remote area and the Cairns region to recover their he had a chance meeting with some of the film's former production action staff who've been rehired as extra camping in the area. It was confirmed by these same production staff in the documentary that with their help. Stanley secretly came back to the set over over several days. Disguised in full costume is one of the dog men and performed as an extra on the film. He had originally been hired her. I mean that's a That's pretty I mean that's hanging out this like it also been reported that he you showed up at the film's Wrap Party where he ran into kilmer who is said to have apologized profusely for Stanley's removal from the film. I mean full circle. Maybe do do the many problems with the production and the evident ongoing attempts by both Brando and Kilmer to sabotage it again. Little Person Whiteface. The location shooting eventually stretched from a scheduled six weeks us to almost six months and the atmosphere on the production became almost a mirror of the plot of the movie with long-suffering cast and crew becoming more and more alienated by and hostile towards its co Oh stars and its authority -Tarian director and they have some amazing footage in this documentary of just the cascading just completely shit faced in their island of Dr Makeup and also being very depressed in their island of Dr Moreau makeup. The film was released on August. Twenty third nine hundred. Ninety six and Dan spoiler alert. It was garbage. It grossed only forty nine million dollars worldwide on a forty million dollar budget not not including marketing and other expenses huge gigantic. Fail in an article. Written upon Brando's death in two thousand four critic Roger Ebert described ride the island of Dr Morrow as perhaps Brando's worst film. That's being very very kind. The island of Doctor Moreau later received six nominations for Razzie awards including worst picture. Worst director were supporting actor for Marlon. Brando Val kilmer was also a nominee in this category at the Nineteen ninety-six stinkers bad movie awards. Brando was nominated for worst on-screen hairstyle which he lost a Stephen Baldwin for bio dome and one worst supporting actor the film also got got nominations for two Saturn awards best science fiction film and best makeup in the mid nineties. It was kind of a weird wasteland of sweet science minds fiction and yeah I mean I loved it I loved all of it. I still want to document. I mean I don't know if they can do a movie but I will the movie. I don't even want like I. The bulks cat character. Her sexy character hangs itself and it's like she wasn't even there for like a shadow. It's so good I wanNA watch that again. I WanNa Watch the documentary again. Documentary are is so good. Most of this information comes from it. And it's just it's in larger than life. Phil what do you think about Hollywood. Filmmaking this is the the opposite of all of that pretty much yeah. There's I mean when I think I'm really into movies. That are a huge bloated productions and their families in Heaven's gate is probably one of the biggest ones. Wow which is a western. They can't one thousand nine hundred eighty. I only have seen that. It's a very long movie. Tried watching it it and it was like a bad movie but I think it was just so bloated with production and it was. It's the kind of thing that puts. I think maybe even put the particular movie studio at a business. I think it was heaven's gate. I love disasterous juris movies but I think about all the people that we name Marlon Brando's obviously I only huge like. We've talked to a lot of huge stars in the context of this Hor horrific film but now talk about now. Okay so Moro. That's that's what I'm saying like you know. They're they're all fine but like VAL kilmer. It's still hot. Oh my God still. You know what I'm GonNa do after you leave rewatch the same but think about the all now like none of these people. People are Rob Morrow not criticizing them. But it's not like Oh man I bet they know rob morrow is going to be so huge. Yeah the fruit balk was killed people arguably like just to I I think a lot of them were like at the end of their career anyway. mid-nineties maybe this is a weird dog person. WHO's now ZAC? Ephron you don't know I'm yeah you don't you don't you know it's probably not we'll check. I'm the Saint Love I'm Sally Brooks and generally elspeth. Tom Loves the the comedy PODCASTS. About all the dumb things that people will do for love each week we share real love stories. Some are funny crazy and some are really wonderful and some are about murder little bit chew crime but a whole lot at you love so we both episodes every Monday so give us a listen and get out there and do something dumb for love love.

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Ross Marquand, Jesse Joyce and Alison Rosen guest

Doug Loves Movies

1:05:32 hr | 6 months ago

Ross Marquand, Jesse Joyce and Alison Rosen guest

"Talk a lot more walls. Hey everybody name is Doug and I love Bubis this. Douglas Booby Homes alone version McHugh once again from doomsday it. Sunday May Third Twenty Twenty. And this show is happening. Courtesy of Zoom Dugout. Twos Amy's Comedy Club in Go to clubs in Chicago and Rosemont where I've been doing. Annual shows on May Fourth May Fifth. But this year. They've been pushed back to August in August. Two THIRTY THIRTY. I will see if it's safe to congregate by then I'm guessing not. I've got three three great guests who all took an hour out of their day of doing nothing actually the busiest days of their lives from what I've been hearing But they took an hour out of their busy days to be here with me and I appreciate that. Alison Rosen Jesse Joyce Ross. Marquand and new. Hello I didn't know and you're supposed to sing it like the three stooges hello perfect. Let's meet let's meet everybody individually and alphabetically starting with Jesse Joyce's year. Hey we're top agency working hard cracking jokes with the Jimmy Kimmel crew on his show right now right. Yes just firing jokes off into a slack APP on a daily basis but it's You know it's good work. You get it right no no. It's great. Yeah Yeah I mean. I'm one of the few people that can still keep writing these days. You can get paid for it so Yeah because you know so much else's shut down but the nice thing about the late night shows is they can just do it from a closet out. So yeah but I think I think I could speak for mostly riders when I say the private number one perk of being on a show like that is getting to watch the bands when they come through and play and Sedan Element is certainly gone for a while. You know. I'm an anomaly. In that way in that I absolutely do not give a hot fuck about live music and you'll have various levels of outrage at me for that guys fall that this is a movie podcast so I thought this was safe territory but I. I've been to concerts in my life and I really couldn't possibly be bothered to watch people play music. What what are the concert. Yeah well okay one was ACDC and that was my own doing in high school. And then I was Kinda like turned off by the concept because it was a bunch of dudes. My Dad's age pissing in the sink at an arena. And I was like okay. This is weird and then In College I was trying to date some went on a date with a girl to a smashing pumpkins concert. But I didn't really care about that one. That was more just a day and then I realized like adults. I don't need to pretend to like to watch people play music. He sounds about AC aside from the sink pissing did you like ACDC. Yeah Yeah I like them in high school. I like the music but I haven't. It's like to me like a concert is like watching someone cook. You know like like like I like I enjoy music. I like to listen to music but music thing you can listen to without observing it. Do you know what I'm saying to me. The the actual mass of seeing someone play drums is utterly uninteresting to me like I enjoy the sound the drums make but I don't care to sit there and watch him make it. Does that make sense Theo at a i? It's like You know it's similar to like You know museums like I don't know I don't know how long the you know you know. I don't know what about a time you're supposed to spend with any particular piece of art in so similarly when you're at a concert like you know I don't know how it is to be like. Oh I wish it saw and they get to the next one. Yeah Yeah you you have. We have like every recorded option to you. Could listen to it while you drive or do another thing to me. I don't know like I feel musicals and opera are different because there's a thing to see like there's something else going on there's a story but to just like listen to somebody cleaner set lists. I. I don't I don't need to watch this. That's what's what's funny to me is the You know most people hate musicals. Do love watching a band play. And I'm like well it's the same thing without a story like you're getting less. You're getting less entertainment for your dollar. Yeah I agree with you. Yeah yeah there's a guy dressed like the lion king running around it's far more interesting to me. Okay thank you for being here Also joining us Taking a break from Fake apocalypse at the with this during the real apocalypse Ross marquand. Hey did thank you for having me. I'm so happy that you're here man. It's been been a weird few months. What the Hell's going on what's going on with the you have a season of walking dead. That's like I don't know how much you can talk about. But it's like their stuff that's been shot correct. Yes I mean we've we've filmed all of us even ten so that's all done. We just need some extra time to do the post on the last episode but We were supposed to head back to season. Eleven or to begin filming in Lebanon this last week but obviously that's not happening anytime soon. So but who knows the governor of Georgia's like Hey? It's totally fine. You can come back to work so maybe we will become back toward soon. Everybody's GonNa have to wear masks. And then they're going to have to have. Zombie makeup on some regular makeup on other things. Really good idea or you just have to write. They just have to write into this crap that there's a biological threat as well and everyone just I. It's like zombies are coming at you. Don't kill them anymore. You just slip a mask on their face laid out give you. The disease should come right for his man. That's a good idea. This season eleven too so I mean I feel like anything goes. I feel like we're we're bound. Davos musical episode at some Point Fingers Cross. That'd be so great also joining us. Today is else in Rosen. Hello when you said we were GONNA go alphabetically. I was like rubbing my hands here. Like it's my time. 'cause. I thought you were going to start with first names and then I. Wow what what a cruel surprise it turned out to be. I'm unlash I also feel like I left Jesse hanging. Yes that makes sense. I personally would like to see ACDC. But I understand what you're saying Music question few alison laid on a how often in your life. If you had your how people quoted you lines from that. Elvis Costello Song of Veronica did I. That was what a classic misdirect I do. I back in the days of for some reason. It was more in the days of answering machines voicemail. I would get a lot of people singing that Classic Veronica on my answering machine. Don't get it that much anymore. Though all right well Miss Joe. Both of my wives have had to deal with Jesse's girl is that what drove them away. I still have the best life I have a better one so but but yeah no it might have something to do with it yet but what about your Kid Studio? Vinnie girls. That's right I have a daughter that wasn't I didn't mean like Oh that's right. I have a daughter like I just remembered. I have a daughter. I just put it together because you said that she is also technically Jesse's girl now so we'll have to deal about. How crazy would it be? If your wife's name was was Stacey go one kid would be staged Jesse's girl and then stacey would be your mom. Well no wait the girl she would have to be named stacy dotted jess girl and the mom. Okay I get it. Yeah Yeah so so. And so there would be a lot of factors. My wife would have to be which she. My wife is very attractive but she would have to be so attractive that somebody would randomly sing that about my daughter's mom and simultaneously the dead so but the match works. You're right I told you anything about music and also you mentioned which is accurate that this is a movie podcast however I need to know because I feel like a complete right now. Are there any Ross songs? Who Gosh I don't know if there are? I don't I don't think there's any songs with Ross and the title. Wow that's making me feel horribly inadequate right now should relevance. There's nothing even at Lisa. Kudrow like sang in the coffee shop and friends about all Smelly Russ I never. I never saw that show. I've seen like a couple of episodes but I never really watched. It's not really sure about them. I would now's your time to catch the shitty thing about pop. Culture is you don't have to have ever even heard Jesse's girl to have dumb asses at wedding singer to you all time. So yes somebody would've light you know if that song existed. I guess exactly. Yeah you're just GONNA have to settle for with Ross dress for less yet and I do shop there all the time. That's one of my favorite scores. Can we maybe writer Ross on today? Is that possible? No doorknob hard. Pass Jesse the union lettuce stomach sense. Okay cool cello. Should I put it back? Don't put it back? Please play the cello as the bass instrument for the Song Boom Boom Boom Boom. And how effortlessly you were able to lips instrument so quick dum boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. Ross Ross. All right Could you give us a new impressions? Ross they know that you like to do extremely brief impressions. I think I don't remember if I did last time I just. I cracked the CODE ON JEFF. Bridges recently in the last few several months then I'd also cracked the code on John Her today. 'cause I knew you were gonNA ask and I was watching Viva Vendetta the day and I was doing my most Ir John Good I I was like Oh shit I never knew retry jarred me from which by the way. Wash that movie again. If you haven't seen allow because it's very timely. But John Her. That was very good what I forget if you did jeff bridges before but I. I can never get enough. Jeff Bridges and Preston. Let's hear some Jeff Bridges. Okay man you know I do like the older man over guy you know dude you know he like the dude who likes to a little weed after taking our allies tron. Jeffords like more nowadays favorite Yeah True Grit Right. Yeah exactly he was. That's you know it's funny. The True Grit and Lebowski The dude were two of his more similar similar roles as it turns out you know. Just throw an eye patch on him and he's the same dog. Did I ever tell you I? I wrote a musical version of Tron in college that I ever tell you about that. I think you did and I think I was delighted by that. I put it up to. I really want to rewrite it in Pitcher to Disney to see if they'll let me do it because I feel like the world needs trump musical right now modernism. Yeah and his big corporations go. Disney has a great sense of humor about it. Good luck. Here's the part where I say a lot. I'd like to start with a new game. Suggested by Greg Bird hard on Social Media Act. Greg Bernard I like this idea. It's called Liar. Liar and I'm going to name a movie and three actors and go to you each individually back to the dreaded alphabetical order for. You'll be third. I'll give you the name of the movie we actors you. Just tell me which one is not in that movie and if you get it wrong than the next person has a chance to steal and so on. So the third person could get a Gimme. If the first two people screw it up. Now it's really working out for me. It could yeah but these these two. They're not gonNA screw up well before I came on here. I looked at my past episode on Your Wiki thing and I think I've lost every single month here. We go yell. You never know anybody could win these things. I will start with you Jesse. The motion picture is called home alone. Who was not in home alone. Between these three people hope Davis Karen CULKIN OR DONALD TRUMP. Hope it was. It was the last thing Davis. Jojo Davis Davis is definitely not in that one really no. I'm sorry. Don Trump is in home alone to die. Hope I didn't and so yeah. It's Donald Trump. He's not in the original our. I figured it out in time. That is correct. I'll trump does not appear in the first home alone when he is in to Boston. York one of the dumber cameos in mystery. If feels really like it was just set up by the city of New York and they didn't realize that the city of New York was as into trump as they thought. I feel what it was is that he owned hotel for that brief window of time and that was the condition on which he let them sell to show that I'm the owner of it makes perfect sense right. So Jesse you got one toy. We're going to start with Ross on this next Ross. Marquand godfather part three. Who's not in it? Abe the Goethe George Hamilton or Bridget Fonda Shit. And don't do your don't do your work out loud because the helps the next person okay. Good who asked me not to do my Marlon Brando impression. You can't if you go. Big Eight by. Goethe was bad one. I think he was done by then able to go to. I don't think that's your final answer. I think so because I mean I think I've only seen godfather part three once or twice. It was not my favorite but yeah I think I'm GONNA go able to. Goethe Goethe is correct yes say nice work. Alison here you go. Those fellas each got theirs rights. Let's see when you could go with this now. I the This is GonNa be hard to beat. But they're one point or got so much faith in you go. The motion picture is called Cocoon K. Ossie Davis Steve Gutenberg or rance. Howard who is not in Cocoon Ossie Davis Steve Gutenberg or rance. Howard this is hard and I'm GonNa keep my work internal so I am going to say rance Howard that is incorrect. Rats Jesse I was GONNA say rant. Our Navy just made up his dad and a lot of Lebron's moods got it. Okay all right okay so I can steal it so sorry so who were the other two. Well that's part of the of the steel is not going to remind shit okay then number two. It was It was Ossie Davis or Steve. Gutenberg Ossie Davis was not correct. He was really a bunch of old white people. There was a old black guy is there but that was my second gas. Your that's the thing is it's all about narrowing it down for something. What kind of name is rance Let's see what pre-bus is Iran's rights yet he's worries oh ranches like shorts or rancid probably depression. Yeah but listen. I don't want to go off on a ranch here. It's your you get to go first. Ross on this next one who is not in Gremlins to the new batch Brett Farve Leonard Maltin or Christopher Lee. Bread for breakfast seemed the obvious choice. But I don't think Brett Farve was in that movie with he couldn't have been that was ninety. Two wasn't really a thing. I guess he was a thing backbench. I don't I don't think up front was in it. Set Your final answer. Yeah I'M GONNA go breath for that is correct. Who a Man. Yeah a hardcover. Famous heads famous football players in it but not him letter mall. That's one of Letterman's only like two movie appearances. He always says nobody said yes. That one because You know you got to be attacked by GREMLINS and yeah. The late great. Christopher Lee was was against so now Ross and Jesse up two points Alison. You need to get on the board here. I now a lot of pressure this. I think this is a tough one to now. Because you've got the last one with an easy one is this is. The movie's called by best friends wedding. I hate that movie. But maybe that'll help me. Take it might clues nodded Dylan McDermott. Dermot Mulroney or Paul Giamati the Dylan McDermott Dermot. Mulroney thing is a classic confusing thing but I think Dermot Mulroney is not correct. I know we did. I just say Dermot Mulroney Kliment doing McDermott. What does the Nikki glaser situation? I forgot to ask if it was your final hits. I know but I think I'd already said my final answer. Just just so every. I know that I'm not getting this point. I can feel it slipping away from me. I don't think I ever had it but just so everyone is very clear in my head. I was picturing Dermot Mulroney and my mouth said the wrong one. Yeah I'D I. Two picturing dill Dermot Mulroney. Right now I just want to know that I knew I just messed up. Which is almost worse yet. Here's the best part is Jesse narrow. All he has to do is figure out what was the truth. Rut was what wasn't in that exchange Who's not in my best friends. Wedding will now. I'm like I never really appreciated the confusion between their names before until this now. It's all big soup and my ed so I'M GONNA say Donald Trump again is not. I would say wait. Shit what did she okay. So it's it's still a McDermott is not in. He's the one that's not in it. That's correct okay. My point. Thank you Dylan McDermott. Dermot Mulroney Ruber. Ever it is that what the guy's name it was the other guys in my best friends wedding. He's in there. Yeah so many names sound listener British away of giving everybody the exact same sounding. Name the couple of British right or any of the Laura Bridge Dylan McDermott. Oh yeah he is but still. Mcdermott has has gray shoe Polish in his hair for a character. He's playing now on. That ride Versi Netflix. Show Hollywood I. I like it but it's just to me. It's weird that he's like he's just like playing the old guy too early in his career. It just doesn't seem real. Like eighth graders put on a musical and some of them have to plan just as his grey-haired I'm up. Bide right makes them look like Richard Gere. But Richard. Gere's been great for fucking every okay. So Congratulations Jesse you one first game today. Thanks guys yes. I think it's the first game I've ever won this podcast. It's very exciting. And you always have the ability to play the cello back on that impressive skill and you know the first game doesn't really mean a lot. It's just to lead up to the. It just means you gotta go. I in our next game that we're going to play as soon as we come back from. These very important messages were back. That was painless right. Those messages were quick and fun and important. We did it. Okay so just see. Joyce you get to go first in this game is going to determine our winner today. It's a game called. It's the new super size extra special Last man or woman stanton the idea. Is that each of you. All three of my guests today will each. Pick an actor or actress that you think you know about of their thumbs. And then all four of US myself included will take turns naming movies that feature any one of the reactors we end up with each of you picking. What's the ideas you can cherry pick from somebody else's Actor you know leave yours alone to save for later in the game and just like in regular last man stand. The last person is still dating. Names is the winner naming the title of movie that one of the three actors within added. Okay I got it. Jessie what's WHO's your really think is in your wheelhouse. You all their titles and this this is like the first day of the popped into my head is kind of sort of a bad man but Mel Gibson. That's that's who I think. I probably know his catalog better. Well Yeah you're just you're you're kind of known for Kind of following the careers of Holocaust deniers peculiar that the the name popped into my head. I think I've gotta keep an eye on him. Make sure he's not ups anything you know. Just make sure he's making stupid movies. Yeah if does the first name popped into my head if in the course of you asking Alison and Ross. If I think of less problematic what I'll shut al. I think I'm going with him. I mean he's only problematic for me in the sense that I I've lost track of some of these movies. He makes just go straight to video or he's mad about things. Somebody did to his daughter. Yes but other than that. I do have a lot of Mel Gibson. Titles because he was in a lot of good or at least a notable films shot Ross. What do you think? Who's WHO's your Go-to here. I'M GONNA go with a less problematic. Aussie. I'm GonNa go with huge yet. Okay Billy I WANNA make it clear only started watching Mel Gibson movies after Alison got to throw it. In this case mix of Aussie actors. I am going to say Val Kilmer O. X. Like that but I feel like strategically if I had chosen someone less well-known. Who's done fewer movies? That would have been better but But I didn't get I mean that's the way to go like I always liked to say that you know it'd be firm if somebody picked James Dean you know. There's only three movies Ryan anyone could say. But but then you're putting yourself in a corner because you're you're you also have to continue naming Murphy so like what if I had said Yahu Serious Dyke idle because he the Aussie radio and I reserved is already right but if I can name four Mel Gibson? Titles than Allison's out right is that the second my understanding the point scoring system here. Well it's just a lasts longest serious. It's only been in two movies and periods. You know some Australian soap opera then like then by default we win. We have more movies right now. 'cause we can choose from any week like ours too right right right okay. Gotcha I WANNA know the second movie. The that he I just okay. I it's young Einstein and Dan. I know he did a second one right. I don't think so. Do Drop Dead Fred. No but yes dean. I think so. I think you're right. That was that was that young serious. I'm getting mixed up. I'm thinking of different comedians. Who had his one shot? He had young Einstein and then that was it but I mean he may be in other movies that were made. I know for that he would. He played some. He was in some movie where he played the gangster. Ned Kelly that I remember seeing the like he was like he's like Australia's Jesse James Early Australian Bank robber type. Yeah I'm thinking of a totally personal sorry so positive of that. I can't remember what it's called but he definitely played Ned Kelly because he was wearing like a iron gluck it on his head. Whatever do not want to talk about kind of. I think in the story of Ned Kelly. That was apparently part of it that it was like in the turn of the century. He liked covered himself in a suit of armor. Got into a shootout. So anyway it's not important. Look it up later. I bet yeah and it sounds like something is probably GonNa happen again in the news any day. Now right okay. So we got Mel Gibson. Hugh Jackman Val kilmer the films of all those men and will start With Jesse that go to Ross Alison then me Am Starts off with the film at any of those. Three guys is in the could take one. That has more than one of the minute. There's no bonus or anything for that but it sure would be fun. Okay I start. Let's braveheart. Okay what do you got for your first one? Ross I go with Logan excellent choice. You Alison I. Guess you're probably GonNa do a Val kilmer since everyone's sticking close to home. Well maybe I'll surprise you. What women want a dairy cow? Yeah exactly I'll tell you what women want. They want a maverick there. You go okay now again. So allie lethal weapon three. I like the way. You're playing a pretty clever. I don't I don't know what my strategy is. Ross Amana go with X. men I X. Men you okay this complicated Alison Passion of the Christ. Allison's friend to knock me out of the wait wait. The they're in the movie or they could just that'd be a sewer saying movies it. They directed I mean only one of the Directive Burgis. That's smell of course from now on. So Yeah we always love me directly to actress. You direct their their movies. They direct is like they. Were you know off screen character? Okay you could just Mel Gibson playing the Compassionate Christ playing the guy that's You know in the background laughing okay. So that that leaves open other director Oriel. They'll Gibson's but I'm going to say for my turn I'm GONNA say Lethal weapon the original. Okay yeah all right got it. We used to just back in the day. We call lethal weapon. Yeah it's like what was the Great War before the World War Two. Yeah I get it okay. Then I'm GonNa go with the bounty. Oh Nice yeah but it's just called the bounty but that's close enough. Oh really it is. Oh okay okay. So that counts. They shirted bounty because they had Italian paper Towel Company. Us well the director rule. I'm GonNa go apocalypse though. Yeah I just wanted somebody. To say out loud apocalyptic. Oh Yeah it's fun. Alison lame is awful. Familiar with that one are you. Are Those people that can't pronounce the blood name. Yeah I pronounce it. I do the same with the word macab. I think people sorta I really think that you know 'cause theatergoers for years before the movie came out pro is calling it les mis I swear to God it was just because people just could not pronounce the end of that word right at SOS. Easier to short may miss her off. Okay Labor's Lobola. I've gotta go with lethal weapon. Two I will see that and raise your lethal weapon four very good Ross. I'M GONNA go with X. Men three last and we have all those yourself As far as I don't remember what they're all mauled what number. They are Why okay Alison I'm going to go with real genius. Oh I forgot. It was still in this game that this is his first appearance. Mueller's yeah he's looming large over the whole thing also doubts. Val kilmer out for A. I'M GONNA go with top secret K. Tombstone Oh yeah. I'm your local borough. He's so good in that as that's probably my favorite tips down celebrities. Probably the greatest mustache contest overfill. Absolutely right you know what's interesting about it real quick. I went to tombstone and If you go to the museum and stuff that they have like the History Museum of whatever like they have you know newspaper clippings from the day from the epitaph. Which is the newspaper in to like. A lot of the lines in the movie are literally quotes like that. Movie is shockingly historically accurate so much of that of the stuff that has said dialogue is like real stuff that they actually said so. It's kind of all the more impressive when you compare it to Kevin Costner's like nine our version. That's just that like a big mess. Yeah but interestingly. Talk Val kilmer and Dennis Quaid. Both stole both movies in the same. Art is just the coolest. It's such a cool character you can't I feel like it'd be hard to fuck it out. Put Away Okay Who got a lot of time to think Rossett? What's that literally one day? Go Okay Love. The movie thought you were like went to the other side of the room or something. I heard a big noise inside and I want to investigate. So you're you're pointing to deliberately on a math. Okay Allison Kill me again. What's that that is a Val kilmer movie that also starred Joanne Whalley Kilmer? Ooh I had a crush on Belco for a long time. Maybe from a long time ago do you know where the two of them out tell you? Movie called Willow. I'll yes look at. That's my answer Jesse okay. Nobody said swordfish. She had so. That's a huge. It's true Ross. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go for another Val kilmer movie that Since the longtime ago but seldom stayed us. Remember that yeah. I like that me too thousand Kate and Leopold That was a his first big movie. I can't remember. I don't think I liked that movie. That had time travel aspect right. He was charming as elemental. Germany did not like and they did not have him. There was a movie called. I think it was called. Alex and Emma didn't remember that. Oh yeah that was terrible. Yeah that was some bullshit Okay so You go all of you dump down on your own Val kilmer. I did I this is the VAL kilmer I like to bring up whenever his name's mention and that's MC gruber that but hasn't seen it. I need to see it. Oh my God last name is cut. He's like general or commander See a love it already do. Okay go with the Saint thus saying yes yes Simon templer back really to show off all these. Little carry is characteristic chops. You know fake mustaches. And she had Ramona's yeah. I think my favorite Komo performance aside from real genius was a kiss kiss. Bang Bang I. That's a good love that very good choice. Very good listen. I enjoyed him in the doors. Tease he did a good job in that I enjoyed him in. And this is a fine day. Oh at first sight for sight. Yeah he's blind and Mira Sorvino. Is The woman who falls in love with them anyway. That's right. How did I miss that? That's like the point of the movie is is that like. How could somebody love a blind person? It's hard because there goes by. People are crab because they can't they are played cranky alive. You're right now out. Potato Mary Cranky will really dark There it is moved the furniture again. Yeah okay wait this blind guy. Tang which is what goes on this Okay the professor and the madman very recent the professor and the Madman. Yeah it's it's Mel Gibson's most recent project ago that he directed at the guy who wrote the Oxford English dictionary. Oh Oh yeah. Who wouldn't love you know it's got everything it's got scientism and a guy who writing the toilet over writing a dictionary so it's got something for everybody but what it's but it sounds like it's two characters. Professor it's it's it's Mel Gibson. And Sean Penn. And Sean Penn. It's like a true story. And Sean Penn is supposedly a convicted murderer. Who happens to be like a savant genius? Who just happen to know every word in the world I think he's almost autistic or something he can. He knows all the words and and they'll give some place some kind of professor who sets out to create a dictionary and enlist his help from jail and they form a friendship so of course they do buddy cop film with Cravat sent in a state asylum in the eighteen hundreds. I love a good Cra von. Yeah I can't I can't believe that whole that whole thing exists and if it doesn't you just I wouldn't I really wish after this whole pandemics over can we all agree to where Croats like every day. Yeah Yeah we'll we'll have screening of. I played this while I watch the professor. I've never really worn a CRAVAT. Except for the time it'll play Dracula in college and I always want to go back to that era. Also you know. It'll it'll suffice as a spare mask if you forget true. Yeah yeah up over your face. It's just it's essentially a for fancy people right. It's a Nike okay. So that that was really Fascinating Ross yovany movies. You'd like to make open now known said Batman Forever Right Nope Cool Batman for yet. There's still quite a few titles left on the table. For All of these gentlemen. I mean I'm using the term loosely. Of course ellison talk. No-one said Topgun right Would they though you're right? Yeah Okay thank you. I had to go through the list. You Know Mel Gibson. No you Jackson Ryan. Oh Yeah kilmer's until good ice man. I wonder if he's given the new one they do. They show him in the trailer. See Him think he is certainly not in good shape or whatever. He's all about suburb turquoise now according to a picture I saw Val kilmer is currently in the desert wearing a lot of silver and turquoise before that he was he wasn't sandwich yeah he was touring for a while as Mark Twain. Yes where he would. It would show a movie of himself doing a one man play as Mark Twain and then he come out and do a Q. and A. With the crowd and of course everybody Sas about all his awesome movie roles up Mark Twain. Did that really happen? And He tried to stay in character and answered no. He didn't do in character. He uses Val kilmer. But Oh you know instead of acting as a Mark Twain lives the film and then came out to quest locally okay. That's exactly like an an evening. Val kilmer and his opener is Mark Twain. Talking for ninety minutes. I'm in I would do no wrong. As far as I'm concerned I definitely was curious to see it as I mean especially the queue in part because I you know I think he does have a good sense of humor so it's probably pretty entertaining the listen to master the same questions. He's gotten over and over again for a million years right. I think he should have had to have stayed in character as Mark Twain and then try to befuddle. Ably explain what a fighter jet is when somebody has to. What's up gun because I bet you that does happen? A bow kill Raises Their heads as what? Why is the judge explained how the planes work all right So Alison said Topgun. So I'm GONNA say Have we really done? All the Dow kilmer's has got to be savell. Kilmer slipped out there out there alone in strident and scared. Save him okay. Warriors GonNa go crazy obvious one for Hugh Jackman and say Australia. Doug I met saved them. I didn't mean save him for me. I met. You said they're alone and out there and scared and I met saved them like they need rescuing nope. I saw how we do it in this country. We just leave him there. Yeah you know what they said. Worked Harder Jesse well then going along with that. Seems the greatest showman. Oh yeah I totally cut out? What was your answer housing? She said a top guy and then we talked to a top gun for a while. Then I said Australia is it my greatest showman and then now it's you owe gratiot opposite. Prisoners was Jason Hall to. Oh yeah love that mood ellison. I don't think we've done wolverine like. Oh we haven't we haven't said that one that was just called Wolverine. We haven't said that. I think it's like Wolverine X men origins but I'll give it to you. Thank him just because you're smart enough to remember at Oh I'm excited to say I have a Washington but he's a new movie that's on. Hbo called Bad Education Tonight. I heard that was good. I WanNa see it Jesse. Yeah Okay Man. Without a face ooh very good Mel Gibson cool. I forgot about all that old Gibson. Shit yeah yet. Ross that just made me think of forever young. That's right. Yup I ever young with Jamie Lee. Curtis Oh yeah Belsen you know when you get to the bottom of tissue box or like an adding machine tape and it's there's a color to indicate that time to replace it like my answers now have colors to them. Meaning I'm getting to the bottom of my list. I'm just everyone now. Heat kilmer's he'd that's right. Oh my God yes. Yeah very good at all time. Yeah it's excellent work. Brought up the neck Kelly suit of armor shootout and then we said the. Maybe someday that will happen again and then didn't connect the anyway go on. Check this out the island of Dr Moreau Oh yeah that's a good one. Yeah that's fun Jesse. Okay my turn against I'm GonNa go bird on a wire. Oh Yeah Mel and Goldie. They don't make them like that anymore. As the prestige male cool petty. I love that movie. Alison a patriot. Good one that's not good movie. Good one thank you all terrible horrific and I don't think I've never been as excited to see a movie on and I I was Super Lead Dowd. Just so sad. What's the dude? That guy played He was like the taxi driver in the In the old TV commercials. Donald something out vogue. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. He has this line like he just. He plays like a racist to the whole movie and then at the end in the last battle he turns to this black volunteer soldier and he just goes. I'm honored to serve next to you. Honored like he says it twice like he does that awful thing where he just repeats his own line. It's just it's so bad. I wanted to be so good anyway. Sorry going Oh. It's Fi- gauges gives the other players the chance to think raw requests under close to the end of Mel Gibson. Oh yeah he's got a few was elephants tournament. Turn it's your turn breath here Saudi rice. Okay okay okay. This Aronovski ski film. Shit Ellia ritualized. God found the phone. Yeah Right Yep yeah I could remember what it's called a fountain rise in the value. The Falcons you run Loma Hugh Jackson Shit need could take there's still a lot of Gibson's del Kilmer's Lira. Run LITTLE DRIVE. What are you add? Alison I Sifting through on panning for a movie in my brain. I don't I think I'm out. I don't think I have any more sorry guys. It was a great run. Thank you did better than I normal. I do think you did great. Thank you all right. So it's a and you can still play the cello. Don't forget that you've always got the cello. That's my insurance policy. You guys so I've got to go with for Mel Gibson. Say the singing detective. Play like old guy in law dates. Rake up in that right. Okay I will do drag. The cost concrete. When you said the said Caraway's about letting about the million dollar hotel was being detective. Yes Million Dollar Taylor had like a neck brace. Jovic using them and give the Million Dollar Hotel all. Yeah yeah that sounds right. Well you might WanNa check me on that. Because I don't know if read about that now I buy is like yeah. I totally agree with that answer. Okay that's all we've got corrections department is out for the summer. I'M GONNA go with Another Mel Gibson of course got a few bouncing around they can't settle on one Shits Camman Nell. Was that one where he was like. Ak was so good it gives. It just came in a I don't WanNa take up too much of anybody's time under slipping in and out of Oh Shit. Goddamn it now. I can't remember which one it was. He's in a franchise. Usc Franchise Series of movies. I don't know which one was in so just in the interest of time I'm GONNA I'M GONNA call it and I'm GonNa go to you Jesse. Okay what do you mean you're gonNA call it like I'm out? You're Oh really. Oh okay okay so the GRINGO. Oh Shit I was GONNA say that. Oh sorry rich. What real steel. Yara bacteria oral era. But's that's a good one okay. So edge of darkness. That's a more recent one too right now. That's like that was pre. Now gives him being a bad person but when he was like sort of the ninety s version of Liam Neeson. Somebody stole his daughter. Dang so yeah I'M GONNA go with one of my favorite movies and where my first crushes Mad Max beyond Thunderdome when I love God damn it. I was going to go back and do some those mel movies. I totally forgot to back Jesse the original Mad Max Mad Max Aroo in your face road warrior. Road Warrior Goodwin Hacksaw Ridge Oh shit camera. We were soldiers I hadn't thought of that went. Good one yeah. Okay The beaver Oh yeah the believer on your own moorhead. It's just basically is it Michael. He's just doing Michael caine voice. I didn't see it. It seemed embarrassing. Issue really back right yeah. It's really weird. It's like a terrible movie but it's but it is strange that he keeps talking stupid beaver puppet and it sounds like it. Sounds like Michael Caine when it talks. what are you got anything else? Ross boss level data come out yet but I know but they were in that. So that's why no but pasta platelets has come out yet. Mel Gibson movie or maybe it's come up this year. I made the mood has come out. Okay then X. Men two electric A. How many do you have so damn it? I'm fucked? I've started to get low and I didn't realize he still had more X. Men Movies to go all right so I'm going with the candidate. That's a new Hugh Jackman movie that one he plays Gary Hart. Oh Oh yeah. That's our that movie's called though. Oh it's nine it's called it's called. I know what it's called the are called that. Oh it's the front runner dammit. That is what it's called. You're right the FRAT around both added steel. 'cause yeah it's the candidate was that old. Robert Redford. That's right. Yeah Yeah Yeah you're right. You're right and then but since raw slipped in with the front runner. I'M GONNA call him the winner today. It's wrong you know what the time down because I literally cannot say I'm out I couldn't think of a single so Ross. Yeah that is perfectly. That was beautiful. I don't think I've ever won the show. And I'm so happy you finally did it under strange circumstances alison. We're years later. I'm still here. Yes I am. Congratulations Ross for for waiting around. Allison do you have anything that you would like to plug? I would just like everyone to check out my podcast. Alison Rosen. Is your new best friend. an childish and Your best friend to the week comes at Monday and Thursday and childish comes out Wednesday and childish. That's my podcast the Greg Fitzsimmons. We are now putting the video from our podcast up on Youtube. So go to YouTube dot com such Alison Rosen for that And the video from Putting up by Patriae on and also I'm on Cameo. Oh Nice how much. How much are your cameos? Minor thirty five which you might think. That sounds a little high for you but it's working out for me. Jila. Yeah because it it it you know the people that are doing it or more committed in St. You know it's less of a throwaway to those people. It's yes sir is for meaningful charge more to play the cello shot. Yeah I bet a separate account. It's a separate secret account just for my butt naked naked cello that include my feet. It's cottage industry. It's helping me lean dive. I subscribed to Yoyo Ma's version of that similar. He's my inspiration guy sir. Go all the way. This'll be quicker game if we were naming cellists. That's out now. I don't. I don't know that have any you'd think I would have given my prodigious playing guys who are into a guys who are into cello players really like Elbows knees and feet Because those things you could see Okay so Ross marquand season. Eleven of walking. Dead will happen someday. Yeah I guess we'll see hopefully hopefully this pandemic again soon so we can actually film the the fake apocalypse opposable where you hear about the murder. Hornets Yeah Yeah. Yeah's murder Hornets now. There's your foes no-one it's it's I don't even big. We should be filming our show at this point because it's too it's too knows it's the documentary. I think my theory is if this pandemic wasn't happening We wouldn't hurt anything about Murder Hornets or UFO's think that the people are just looking for anything else to talk about. Right Yeah Hey we're over here. Hey where were we have some ufo pictures then we we bet so for years but now nobody's paying any attention to us. Jesse Joyce Jimmy. Kimmel live on. Watch that every night. Because I'm working on that and then I'm just. I'm on twitter guessing that Jesse Joyce and Instagram Jesse Joyce one is somebody else got their first will thank you guys. Also much Allison Jesse. Ross and What was my plug? I had a good plug. I was GONNA do. Oh look for me. Constantly popping up on periscope and instagram live and could the three of you Alison and Russ Eh Jesse State snap a shot of yourself or your environment just set something. That represents a where you're at today during the show and texted to me and then I will collage together for Promo purposes. Churn and Yeah thanks everybody for listening in as always ride get those song ready. It's a new. It's a new ending. The show came up with as always. We're all gonna get lay in Kanji. There is no room for you.

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The Sunday Read: The Iceman and Winter

"Hi It's Taffy Byrd S. or abner and I'm a staff writer at the New York Times magazine. I have been trying to write a story about VAL kilmer for about five years. He was the quintessential blockbuster matinee movie idol of my youth he was in. Guys really are cowboys. But you problem Jansky top gun. I don't like you because you're dangerous. That's right man. Let's just say I was testing the bounds of reality. He started as Jim Morrison in the doors. He was Batman. That Soglo is not beeper. I wish I could say that my interest in you was purely professional and then one day. He stopped showing up in movies. All of a sudden. I realized it had been a really long time since. I've seen VAL kilmer on a big screen so I thought I was telling a story about where Val kilmer wise but by the time he finally agreed to speak with me earlier this year I found a completely different story. They're in turns out that VAL Kilmer is a man of extraordinary faith and the reason that that matters is because in the years since I had started asking to speak with him a lot of things had changed and so had I I had been raised in a house of tremendous religious observance beyond just kind of traditional Judaism. There was a lot of cabalistic and along with that. A belief that was instilled in me that no matter why everything was going to be okay and in the last five years. I really lost track of that. I no longer believe it and so the story about Val kilmer went from being a story about where he went and turned into a story about someone who still believes that. I don't know if it could change anybody from being terrified about the state of the world but I know that it will not hurt anybody to spend a few minutes remembering that there are other ways to look at things. So here's my story. The iceman in winter red for you by Julia Whelan It's hard to believe now as I write this. But just two months ago when we were allowed to roam free when we can board planes and delight from them and wander into rental cars and check into hotels when we can chase down and replenish. The beauty and wonder are very cells. Need to survive. I went to Los Angeles where I was asked this question by Val kilmer. Do you think south by southwest will be cancelled but val kilmer no longer sounds like Val kilmer the movie star of the Eighties and nineties. Who is mostly from screens? He hasn't since his tracheostomy he can still squeeze air up through his windpipe however and past the whole that was cut into his throat and the tracheostomy tube in a way that makes him somewhat understood not very but somewhat. The sound is something between a squeak and a voiceless roar. He says the fact that I can understand him is a result of the endless. Vogel exercises that. He was trained to do when he went to juilliard after high school that he was taught to work his voice like it was a trumpet. He hated the authoritarian rule at juilliard. While he was there he hated those stupid vocal exercises. Now look at him still using his most beloved instrument when really by all rights. It should be useless. See how it all turned out for the best. All Val kilmer stories are like that told with that. Same Dash of preordained Kismet. He was travelling in Africa in nineteen ninety four when he decided to spend a morning exploring a bat cave later that day literally. Seriously that day he was inspired to his agent. Who had been trying to contact kilmer for weeks to see if he was interested in playing the role of Batman. Now that Michael. Keaton was hanging it up another story in the days before he said is for the first time on his now ex wife Joanne. Whalley he dreamed that he met the woman he was destined for and woke up and immediately wrote a poem called. We've just met but Mary me please. Then right after that. He went to London and while he was there he saw play and wally was in it. He was so taken with her that he followed her to the pub after party just so he could look at her. This was crazy even for him so he made no move two years later in nineteen eighty seven. She would be randomly coincidentally serendipitous Lee cast opposite him in willow and they would end up married so yes he can talk and it's such a miracle that he has these abilities because if you have enough faith you'll see how every part of your life is just a piece of a bigger part of your life and nothing is an accident and is good. We were in his office at Helmut. L. An office space slash art galleries slash artist Studio Slash Retail Museum for Val kilmer movie career. That takes up several storefronts and more than half the blog of melrose avenue between edge monster. Read and heliotrope drive in Hollywood. Officially according to Brad Koepenick his childhood friend and adult business associate. Who was in the room to help me better understand Helms. Mission is to serve as a fun sacred space where ECLECTIC artists gather with novices to collaborate and through new technology inspire change and spark giving in our local underserved community of its storefronts. One is a traditional art gallery. Another is a dark window display with three black cubes. That say God stenciled in white paint behind which is an inventory of merge from kilmer's long and storied movie career. Saux that featured his tombstone character. Doc Holliday and Jim Morrison coasters from his role in the doors and some paintings that kilmer himself created some of which are about his film career a rendering his top gun character. Iceman with the word. Love stenciled across it. And some that aren't a hummingbird in a forest. The final storefront is a door that leads to the willy. Wonka core of Helmut L. INSIDE. There's a podcasting studio a cafe area and a screening room how mill also houses a foundation val and Koepenick created called Twain Menia which aims to send its Mark Twain Curriculum into schools. Twice a week high school students from South Central Los Angeles Practice. Hamlet and other plays there as part of a program called. Inner City Shakespeare. Helms started holding events last February a screening of tombstone an echo in the Canyon concert. It is the creative incubator of dreams the fruition of a vision. He had always hoped his six thousand Acre Newman would be before he lost most of it and the two thousand eight housing crash. The idea is to create kind of a life. That's active comber told me it's active. It's alive I want the feel of it being alive. You feel the electricity. He sat at his desk behind. Him was a replica of a painting. He sold to Robert. Downey junior and on the other side. A maybe two foot tall Batman figure with a Mark Twain head elsewhere were apple computers from the nineteen eighties and nineteen ninety s dipped in glossy red paint a tumbleweed bathed in gold paint. There was a box of newly shipped. Hard covers of his new memoir. I'm your huckleberry which debuted on the best seller list in April a brooding photo of the VAL Kilmer of your nineteen nineties. Matinee memories on its cover on the walls were more of his paintings swishes of paint and Resin and oil and sometimes spray paint on sheets of repurpose aluminum. He makes them by swirling around the chemicals and paint until they look like an emotion or an element to him at which point he adds a photograph defying his theory. Into fact I stood ended admired a rectangle of blue gray haze that he had determined looked like ocean waves and so he had added photos of swimmers diving into the waves. One after another of all the projects going on inside the studio at that minute. It was a short animated film about Mark Twain. That concerned him most in it. Mark Twain Falls Asleep and dreams of the resurrection of Jesus Christ resulting in his waking up and realizing that Mary Baker Eddy the founder of Christian Science. Val kilmer is a lifelong Christian. Scientist was correct about God's eminent perfection and the theories of Mrs Eddy as kilmer calls her about God's capacity to heal the kilmer loves a lot of things but to the tops are Mark Twain and Mrs Eddy. Kilmer wanted to debut the short at south by South West in a few weeks. It was early March. There were rumors that festivals and concerts and even air travel might be cancelled. Kilmer believed that even if he and his team couldn't take an airplane. They could just drive to Austin and still screen Mark Twain Dreams of the Resurrection and I duNNo will the festival into existence. He was undaunted by all the signs. And portents that made it feel as if the world were dropping to its knees. He believed if he could get the film done. And over to Austin the rest would take care of itself so when he asked me if south by South West would be cancelled. I told him I didn't know. The surgeon general had started asking the public not to hoard surgical masks and just that morning Los Angeles had declared a state of emergency. You don't think we will be going to Ken. Kilmer asked how about the Olympics? The Olympics has never been cancelled except in time of World War. You can't cancel the world right bad things happen but you still need art and I thought Right Right. You still need art. You still need forward momentum. You still need to believe that all your effort wasn't for nothing that we could. We will survive a dark moment in history and that when that happens we won't be left without the things that made those moments decipher -able and meaningful and therefore tolerable. The world outside had seemed to be getting so so bad for so so long and this was the first whiff of overarching hope and positivity that I witnessed in. I couldn't remember how many months or years now so much so that I almost couldn't identify it when I saw it. The last glowing embers of hope coming Val Kilmer the movie hunk of my youth. Who disappeared on ceremoniously and now presented with an entirely different appearance and a bizarre accounting of where he'd been but there was something familiar about it like a faint dogging that came from inside me. It was the special kind of optimism that may be only the faithful. Have the enduring belief that some force will come along and save us from the centrifuge of despair. We found ourselves in. When is the last time you saw that up-close before you can understand the story of what happened? Val kilmer you have to determine for yourself who he was in the first place trying to compare him to any movie star working either now or then. We'll fry your mental circuit board. He was an upwardly mobile conventional movie star. He was equally a fringe Weirdo. Who would soon disappear his first movie. Top Secret Nineteen eighty-four about a Rockstar. In East Berlin was the follow up to airplane by its creative team and it was so funny and such a strange thing to see this extraordinarily handsome young kid. A draw like the sharp Kat. Bottom half of a stop sign that truce we'd Golden Hair accused's Bo that lays and shadow of the pump convex group of his upper lip who also seemed to be in on the joke. The eighty s were a time when a handsome young man with hair was mostly the if it he'd been on the road to something slightly more say classical when he was at juilliard he starred in arrestees and in the Wood Demon. He wrote a play with his classmates. Called how it all began which went on to run for a month at the public theater. After Joe PAPP himself saw it at the school he started in Slab. Boys with Sean Penn and Kevin Bacon. He did as you like it in. Minneapolis with Patti lupone. But once Hollywood gotTA look at Him. He was onto fast a conveyor belt to safely. Step off the success of top-secret beget a somewhat starring role in real genius. Meaning that his Chris night the apathetic irresistible prodigy. Who helps something laser chemical transmitter radio? Something is the guy on the poster. But he's not the character with the clearest narrative arc. He's more of a wise fool in the Shakespeare tradition. Another hit then in nineteen eighty six came top gun and after that everyone knew who val kilmer was. Because how could you not iceman the fighter? Pilot Tom Cruise's maverick. Is Trying to best for the best of the best of the best position. Has maybe seventeen words in the whole movie but it is there that you can see. Val kilmer's greatest gift which is to make something out of nothing to breathe real life into a character who was only though to set the volleyball. So that maverick could spike it if you asked me then what beguiled me about Val kilmer? I wouldn't have had the words for it instead. I would pictured a man without a shirt. I am still hard pressed to picture a young VAL kilmer in a regular shirt. But it wasn't his body that stuck with me when the lights came on. No it was his awesome physicality him spinning the volleyball on his finger him offering the most fraught eighties masculinity soaked condolences ever when Mavericks Radar Intercept Officer. Goose BUYS IT. During a flight exercise there was something in his immense focus and his full bodied commitment to just plain being in the scene. That took my breath away. I read somewhere. That kilmer was so dedicated to inhabiting the rule that he created team. Iceman and T- Maverick factions in the top gun. Movie cast what I also remember is iceman's snapping his gum with his mighty jaw in non to mavericks admitting that. Yes he's dangerous in that DRAWS SNAP. Which is my absolute favorite gift to send a people. There's so much more than a weird way to end the conversation. It's Gance and pay those frustration and whatever the emotion is where you know that laughing at someone will hurt them more than insulting them. The next few jobs came relatively quickly the crazed greedy Delightful Madman Cardigan in though shouting epithets at the hero of the story with a vitality and electric. That makes you somehow root for him. Kill me again. In which he plays a dumb investigator who becomes the mark of a con woman played by his wife. At the time. Joanne whalley the doors and Oliver. Stone movie made extremely watchable by kilmer's method performance as Jim Morrison so methodology and deepen the role. It's not so long into any kind of rewatching of that movie that I realized I can no longer remember what Real Jim. Morrison sounded or looked like then the beloved tombstone in which he once again went deep method on the tuberculosis dentist. Doc Holliday sweaty and yellow gasping for breath through puffs on his cigarette. It was around this time that both kilmer and his viewing public ran into a problem. If you're good at acting and you're super honky and you look good with your shirt off and also are willing to take it off. You are an excellent candidate for promotion and so- VAL kilmer leveled up pretty soon. He was cast as pure leads of what were or. Were designed to be blockbusters Batman forever. The Island of Dr Moreau the Saint. He didn't do badly in any of those roles. Exactly it's more as if all the elements were there. But they couldn't unite to make a real person. The whole was less than the sum of its parts. His Jack Andrews in kill me again is supposed to be some kind of every man but he's really the absence of a person. A body without a soul in Thunderheart kilmer plays a regular guy. Fbi agent with some native American lineage. And I couldn't really get through the rest in Batman forever. He barely moves his face. And well here were the reviews. Janet Maslin in this newspaper said Kilmer was hamstrung. By the straight man aspect of the role while Roger Ebert raved that he was completely acceptable. There came reports of problems on sets that he was complaining constantly and making impossible demands that he was rude to his Co stars and stayed in character all the time never bothering with even small courtesies to the other people on set that he fought with Oliver Stone about glorifying Substance Abuse in a movie that was literally about Jim Morrison that kilmer committed to the method. Even through casting became too aggressive with a woman during an audition in front of stone and the casting director as he became swept up in an emotionally charged moment the incident resulted in a settlement though he maintains it was the actress who attacked him and the casting director has said that both actors were physical with each other in the heat of this moment Joel Schumacher called him psychotic in an interview. After directing him in Batman forever who's sequels Kilmer was supposed to star in? There are several different versions of why George Clooney replaced him kilmer says it was because of scheduling difficulties with the other movie. He had a contract for the saint but one factor was surely this assessment by its director. Multiple sources have claimed that on the set of the island of Dr Moreau. Kilmer TOUCHED HIS LIT. Cigarette to a crew members sideburn. He claims this was an accident that resulted from the cinematographers. Asking him to blow smoke from off camera very close to where a member of the camera crew was standing. What kind of person would singe worker? He spends fifteen hours a day with often less than a foot apart. Madness premiering Sunday may tenth. Hbo's New Limited Drama Series. I know this much is true. Features Mark Ruffalo is twins. Dominic and Thomas Birdseye one man coming to terms with his past and the other brother he struggling to care for through it all a story of family sacrifice and forgiveness from the director of Blue Valentine and the place beyond the Pines and based on the best selling novel. I know this much is true. Premiers Sunday may tenth at nine pm only on. Hbo This all begins to explain why it's hard to make sense of who exactly Val kilmer was. His whole thing is telling stories but at this point he didn't yet know which story he was telling. He can put it all together now far better than he ever could back. Then he'd had his pig of roles. He was being offered lucrative franchises. His talent was in doubt by absolutely no one. His gift was both so overt end so subtle that he was the most memorable part of the movies he merely supported and yet suddenly he was radioactive. He didn't know how to handle what was happening to him. He'd gotten into acting because he wanted to perform serious roles but the bigger they came the more and cavernous to it was all silly to me. He said to me in his office. I've been preparing to do hamlet for ten years. He always thought of himself as a character actor he could do a hundred different voices and a million different impressions. I would've loved to have been on Saturday night. Live as a regular kilmer. Said fame wasn't my priority. And I had it if you read his press. Around the time of Batman all those interviews are mostly just him complaining about the suit he liked to say. It was a battering experience. Because he loves word. Play in interviews. He brought up. Tom Cruise often particularly his inclination for movies. Where instead of running from their oiled volleyball playing forms of yesterday crews ran back toward them. I have very definitely had a different kind of career than Tom. You never know if a job has commercial success written all over it. I just think life's too short to worry about that. The Los Angeles Times December thirty first nineteen ninety three. I have nothing against Tom Cruise but he must have a large capacity to deal with the business side of movies details. June nineteen ninety-five interviewer. How about Tom Cruise? You Make Fun of him sometimes kilmer. You can't make fun of Tom. Cruise Poor thing interview March twenty fourth. Two thousand eleven. Maybe he was jealous. The cruise was getting all those leads. Maybe he really couldn't take the leading man pressure. He was burned out already from all that method ing. But that doesn't seem right. The burnout thing ignores that he was still doing smaller roles on the side in the same magnetic way he had before his Elvis inspired cameo in true romance a movie in which he shines in a tiny role where they don't even show his face his bank robber in heat. Forget that amazing shootout sequence that everyone talks about the movies. Most mesmerizing moment is the forty second micro scene in which he watches a clerk verify that his fake license is real. No the problem was that he had been trained to inhabit any role. He could find himself in. He just couldn't find himself in enormity. And by the time Kilmer came online as a movie star nor me roles were all. There were the nineties. Standard-issue regular guy. In extraordinary circumstances kilmer's greatest rolls were always supporting characters. The roles of troubled men with broken souls went to the other guys because who would believe that a guy who looked like him had real troubles or a broken soul but he couldn't reverse course and bow out either by then he had been seduced by a lifestyle look at his face in a tabloid photo of him share Circa Nineteen Eighty-four. Look at the pride look how much he enjoyed being on shares arm. It reminds him something he heard once. God wants us to walk. But the devil sends a limo. He was invited to go to Togo by Dr Suzuki whom he calls the Japanese Stanislavsky but he turned it down he didn't want to say yes to Hollywood but look at that picture again. How could you say no? By the time. He realized how miserable he was. It was too late. He tried to supplement these movies with other artistic endeavors. That nourished his soul. He began working on a documentary about nuclear disarmament in nineteen eighty-three when he was doing real genius when he was filming. Wonderland in two thousand three. As the porn star John Holmes he holed up with Ali Alborz e who had been protege of kilmer's friends the wildlife photographer. Peter Beard to photograph the set and then make collages of the photographs and pages from the film's script all over the walls of the Chateau Mar and also spill blood all over them a complex art project. I don't fully understand. He took the roles always imagining that when he had enough money he could get out with enough to support both that giant Santa Fe ranch but it's animals and staff and the artists. He wanted to invite to it. I was gambling with being able to maintain the status. And I would've won my gamble except for two thousand eight. Not only did he lose his status in Hollywood but the ones spoil he escaped with his ranch lost half its value and he was forced to sell most of it away. I just lost my home. Like a million other people. It was pretty awful. His casting problem was solved for him when no one wanted to work with him anymore. The roles went to people who presumably were not known for unkindness. Toward Move Cruise. The phone stopped ringing in his book. He sums up this period. Like this in an unflinching attempt to empower directors actors and other collaborators to honor the truth and essence of each project. An attempt to breathe Suzuki in life into a myriad of Hollywood moments. I had been deemed difficult and alienated the head of every major studio. He says this in an attempt not to apologize clearly but to make clear why he behaved the way he did. Everyone has to work out their own salvation. He told me how to live. And by what morality and I found that the part that I feel bad about is hurting somebody in the process. He remembered a story from his time. As Batman one day he was filming and about to take off the bat suit when Warren Buffett and his grandkids came by. They wanted to see Batman so kilmer stock around in the suit but they didn't want to talk to him. They wanted to try on the mask and ride in the batmobile. He understood then. The Batman isn't meant to be a real guy. Batman is meant to be so anonymous that the person who is looking at him can himself in him. That's why it's so easy to have five or six. Batmans he says. Now it's not about Batman there is no Batman and so what kind of thing is that to play a person whose job is to be is known specific as possible. He looked good and the bad suit but wearing it was torture when he took it off. He was finally free. See what he did there. See how it all worked out at the pretty happy ending to a sad story? The lesson here is Val Kilmer's perpetual lesson that if you have enough faith if you can take the long view and remember that things will work out. Destiny takes over. I say that to prepare you for the story of what happened to his body. Because if you think that turning the story of a blown-up career into a best case scenario is impressive. Wait till you see what the VAL kilmer story optimize or does with cancer so by two thousand fourteen. He was living a life. He was no longer under contract for franchises. He couldn't put his heart into he had some money. He had a place in Malibu his kids nearby and he could finally do what he wanted. He began to pick the project that mattered to him. It so happens that the animated short Mark Twain Dreams of the resurrection. Not The first movie. Kilmer has made about Mark Twain. It's not even the second and I've heard there's an additional screenplay for a feature length script out there too but the main Mark Twain event is a film called Citizen Twain and it was conceived as a live performance in which Val kilmer dresses up as Mark Twain and does Mark Twain and Christian Science Related. Stand up comedy. Take a minute with that sentence. I went to see citizen Twain. One rainy Friday night at the College of Staten Island. A half filled theater which I remember a little like a fever dream. There's not a lot of marketing. Copy the can prepare you for its strangeness and also it's elaborate nece and also its sincerity and also the delightful warmth of Val kilmer whom you will never see happier than when he is presenting this film of his though it started out as a half filmed half performance. It is now. In light of his vocal condition a totally filmed performance that kilmer merely introduces the subjects of citizen Twain Range from SAS Parrilla to congressional representatives being for Mark Twain quotes to Mrs Eddy quotes to quotes. Val kilmer only wishes. Either of them had said here. He was using his celebrity and his talent along with some heavy. Rubber prosthetics Mark Twain was many things but he was not a person who looked like val kilmer to finally do something. He wanted which was to work out for himself. The relationship of two people he absolutely worshipped but who were at odds in almost every way. Samuel Clemens was a Christian and a rational man who seemed fairly uphold. Mrs Eddie's interpretation of the Bible and its assumptions that healing from illness was something resulting from prayer rather than medical treatment. He wrote a book about it called Christian Science in which he clearly mocks all of it but kilmer believes he did this only because he was so drawn to it with each project kilmer gets a little closer to making the universe conform. A little bit more to what he wishes. It were a place where the two historical figures he loves. Most Mark Twain and Mrs Eddy are finally no longer polar opposites but magnetically aligned. Val kilmer can't remember when it was that Mark Twain. I re his life and he certainly doesn't know when he first realized his life's work would be about trying to Meld the visions of Mark Twain and Mrs Eddy into one. And he certainly can't remember the year he started having symptoms of what other people the ones with medical degrees evaluated him called throat cancer. Partly this is because he gets tired when he talks now but mostly it's because it's hard to track time and mark space when you don't believe in them as near as I can tell in two thousand fourteen as he was touring with citizen Twain. Kilmer family in Nashville with a big lump in his throat. He was having a hard time swallowing. He canceled the show. He'd been having symptoms for a while and had woken up in a pool of his own blood. A timer to back in Malibu a DR eventually told him it was throat cancer or as Kilmer told me Christian science calls it the suggestion of throat cancer. Meaning that in Christian science the idea is rather than say I have it or possess it. There is a claim. There is a suggestion that this was a fact. He knew the cure for him would be to work with his practitioner. Christian Sciences version of a spiritual adviser to pray his fear away so that his body would no longer manifest outwardly. What can be diagnosed as a malady? Meaning it's not really cancer. It's just his fear expressing itself. Think of what. He had just been through losing all his land reckoning with his career he had to go away and pray to relocate his faith within himself but it wasn't so easy he has kids a grown son and daughter he had while he was still married to Joanne. Whalley and they're not Christian scientists. His family couldn't let him go. He'll by himself cancer as they know it is a thing that spreads he relented. I just didn't want to experience their fear which was profound kilmer said I would have had to go away and I just didn't want to be without them. He had surgery that year which was followed by chemotherapy and radiation. That zapped my whole throat and it's still dry as a bone and left him with the tracheostomy tube and a feeding tube shortly after kilmer was spotted wearing scarves his head slightly askew as if his neck couldn't properly hold it up in two thousand sixteen. Michael Douglas was doing a press junket after his own bout of cancer and a reporter asked him about the ghost and the darkness. Douglas mentioned that kilmer. His Co Star in. That movie was suffering from the same illness he had suffered from. Kilmer denied this posting on facebook that he had no cancer whatsoever. I asked Kilmer have cancer when it seemed to me. Judging by the fact that the thing he described is absolutely the treatment for throat cancer that he perhaps definitely did he said because I didn't have cancer. I blinked too few times. They said I was denying that I had cancer. And when they asked me. I didn't have cancer. It was a bit like. Do you have a broken bone and if you broke it in high school you would say no. He continued suddenly suspect. I have had a bone broken. But why are you being so aggressive? I had a bone broken. It was broken in my leg. Oh so you have a broken leg no no I. Don't I say I did have a broken leg? It's not exactly mind over matter it is. He tells me the lost art of Christian healing. There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so he said quoting Mrs Eddy. Quoting Hamlet. I prayed and that was my form of treatment. The doctors did those other things but it was prayer that worked. He sure he is no longer suffering from cancer he said or rather he never was no. He's suffering from something quite different. He pointed his trade tube. That's from radiation and chemotherapy. It's not from cancer. His prayer he said was the true treatment. The medical response to cancer was the thing that hurt him. That treatment caused my suffering. The next Dave kilmer sat at a conference table in Hell Mel and opened up a Red Igloo Cooler and began to mix liquids together from various canisters before putting them into a syringe. He opened his shirt uncapped his feeding port and injected the food into a tube. It was lunchtime. He has no vices anymore. He watches all the food. Shows top CHEF CHEFS TABLE? Ugly Delicious Yearning. For the time. He'll be able to eat again though. It has been years and he's not sure how much longer it will be when it is though. He said making his arms into a food shoveling gesture. I'm going to look like Orson Welles. He sixty one now. He is still so handsome. His hair is still blonde. His eyes are still the unimaginable green of Oregon grass. Right after the rain. His draw is still the main event the nasal labial area of his cheek book ending the Inferior Jowl so that his superior jowl appears sunken and his face takes on romantic geological proportions. He was wearing a very heavy turquoise and coral necklace that his mother who died last year war for twenty years straight along with her turquoise bracelet. He was never scared during his medical treatment. He told me he never panicked right as he was graduating from high school. His younger brother Wesley who had received a diagnosis of epilepsy drowned in the family's Jacuzzi. Wesley had been a super genius. He said a gifted filmmaker who made stop motion animation ahead of his time but kilmer still talks to Wesley. Wesley shows up in his office and they hash things out or trade ideas. His mother has appeared to him lately too as if she's out party saying how happy she is to be with her husband again and Wesley. My little brother so happy. Death isn't deaf in Christian science it simply that humans have limitations and one of them is that we perceive people only through our five senses. When a person dies. They aren't gone. They are just not showing up in our senses anymore. So if a Christian scientist praised and still dies according to standard definitions of death. It doesn't mean the prayer didn't work as Kilmer said when he dressed up as Mark Twain. All prayers work. It's just that sometimes we don't like the answer. So how can you be scared of cancer when there's no such thing as cancer how can you fear death when there's no such thing as death the answer is you can't someone comes up to you and says you have only four months to live and the concept of time is a human one so if you describe the divine concept of time there is no time? He's been off the trick tube a couple of times though each time. He has a setback. A cough cold fever. But why all this talk about the time that fear manifested in his body here addressed it. He made it through that and now he's on the other side and his life is finally what he wanted it to be by the time. I met him. He had taken citizen Twain to more than thirty cities. I feel like I not possibly be in a better place for attracting better and better roles. He said if an actor is fortunate enough to do so to steer their own course and own their own material. They control their own destiny creating their own products he talked about how Irwin Winkler and Francis Ford. Coppola had each leveraged. Their wealth to get projects made his slate. These days is no different. I haven't picked subjects such as boxing jealousy or uncontrollable madness Mark Twain and Mary. Baker Eddy are the subjects of the film. I've dedicated twenty years of my life to on and off. He told me he's filmed five roles so far this year. The opportunities are coming in the way they do. Only when you're peaceful and not desperate about them there's a top gun sequel coming out this year. Kilmer is in it. He's not allowed to say anything about the new top gun except that he's in it and that instead of being enemies with maverick their relationship has changed. We're friends he said this time. We're friends as I walked out of. Hell Day kilmer presented me with a gift. It was the abstract painting I admired the day before with the swimmers diving into the waves. I told him I couldn't take it. That Times policy was that I couldn't accept anything even close to this. I put it down key picked it up. I put it on a desk. He told Brad Koepenick. Who stayed with US until the end of the interviews to carry it out to my car and not let me leave without it so I took it and put it in the passenger seat with a seat belt around it. Just me in Val Kilmer's abstract swimmer art driving down Melrose and honestly it felt so good and so- weightless spending the day with someone who doesn't believe in death is as fine an antidote to hearing all the stories of fear that were coming through the radio now is any that instead of passing Cojuangco Boulevard back to my hotel. I hung a right and went to the movies the way I used to when I was young when I sat in the movie theater watching portrait of a lady on fire and thinking of Stories. Kilmer told me about an accident. His daughter was in how she was walking and got hit by a car on little Santa Monica and then thrown through a storefront window but the storefront had been evacuated and so was empty and even though she'd gone through the glass she emerged unscathed about time. He was driving to the airport from his ranch and a car wandered through the median and he was going too fast to stop and so his car went through this other car without colliding with it. You can still see the mole on the driver's neck as he went through him without causing material disturbance to either of their bodies or vehicles. These things happened because he'd been praying his whole life but the other thing he'd been doing his whole life was telling these stories. Turning the way we are constantly walking along the edge of our imminent demise sure imminent believe in time demise if you believe in death and trying to make sense of what could happen to a person at any given moment a religious person a person who is trying to be good in the world that his daughter could be hit by a car that he could die on the way to the airport that his reputation could be shattered that he could have a hole in his throat. Who could blame a person who needed to make sense of? The chaotic turns of his life with the story. But even more what else was he supposed to do when he told me these stories. I told him it was hard for me to imagine. A person could heal themselves or prevent certain disaster with prayer. He said it's not that difficult when he said that I realized that as the days had gone on it had become easier to understand him. The Times was calling for staff members to return to base and begin working from home so I headed to the airport the next morning with my suitcase and my painting which I promised myself I would mail back to Kilmer when I arrived at home. People were wearing masks on my flight and sanitizing the cups of Soda They received during Inflight Service and I drifted off to sleep feeling bad for them south by southwest was cancelled before I even landed can was postponed. Eventually the Olympics were to in the coming weeks. Everything was canceled school outside. Hugs Peter Beard. Went Missing and kilmer took a walk with Lia Boise. Who was distraught. It was the longest walk kilmer had taken in a long time and he realized that to hummingbirds had been following him had been following them for three days. Birds have always been a part of my family. Kilmer texted me being the harbingers of life and the story of death. He believed the hummingbirds had a message for them about beard. By then I thought how beautiful perhaps we had created the corona virus out of our fear wickedness children in cages. The rich hoarding wealth. Perhaps we had only the suggestion of a virus. I grew up with too many Messianic S- in my household I found this kind of thing too easy to believe if only because it was more believable than the fact that in two thousand twenty my young healthy colleagues were in the hospital. The streets were bear. I was stuck inside my house and nobody knew how long that might go on for for a few days. I stared at my beautiful painting which I will absolutely return when it's safe to take a essential trip to the post office. It was so hard to parse all the fear that permeated society. Now what was real? And what had come as a result of our own hysteria during the day. I think that it was the fear that was hurting us. Most but at night my husband would shake me to wake me up because I'd been crying in my sleep more quickly than I could have imagined. The world took on the hallucinogenic quality of right before you fall asleep when everything is out size and nothing makes sense. The margins on my suspension of disbelief started to close in on themselves and the borders of things began to diminish and now the world seemed like a word you stare at so long that it becomes nonsense. I watched all the vel kilmer movies again. But this time. They struck me as representations of a world that never existed. That couldn't possibly exist. What is sweaty shirtless fighter pilot? What is dentist with tuberculosis? What is downtown La Shootout? What is batmobile? What is Lizard King amid? All this I received a phone call. One of my closest and oldest friend's Lydia called me to tell me she had throat cancer. I had seen her a few weeks before and she told me she had been having bouts of Laryngitis but now she had a diagnosis. It was staged zero. It had not yet spread. I cried into the phone with her but also here. I was finding this out while writing an article about a man who had throat cancer. I called up kilmer and told him about Lydia. I asked if he had any advice to give her he did. Kilmer told me that she could have a healing at any minute. It could happen right now or when? She's on her way to the hospital or even while a doctor is operating on her. I called her and told her this. And it made us both Giddy for some reason but then a few days later. Her surgery was postponed because of the corona virus. And we aren't sure even as of this writing when it will happen and now her cancer might spread. I felt stupid for trying to find meaning and hope in what was happening to Lydia. I felt stupid for trying to make this into a story for her and for us in just two weeks. The Palm Tree is against the bright blue sky that hung over helm L. Seemed like something. I made up as weird to think about as a Batman figure with the Mark Twain head. Was that even real? I searched my phone and found a picture of it few by now. I understood that the story I was telling about. Val kilmer which I thought had been about a man's relentless faith and optimism was really about reconciliation the squaring of two opposing things into something. We swear is true. Despite all evidence to the contrary your beauty can sentence you to misery. Val kilmer uses a TRACHEOSTOMY TUBE. But he can talk. His brother is dead but only to our senses. Mark Twain Despised Mary Baker Eddy until you can will him into a dream where he doesn't God is good and there are no ventilators. My beautiful friend has cancer and the treatment exists but it's unavailable to her right now. Here's the thing. Mark Twain Kilmer's favourite storyteller thought that storytelling couldn't and shouldn't try to capture an entire life to draw its arc to determine its meaning. He was suspicious of the kind of autobiography that Ben Franklin had done he thought it should just be a mishmash of remembrances told not even in the right order less person be tempted to force a story into a certain direction and make themselves more sympathetic character than they deserve. Here's another thing. I spoke to his daughter Mercedes. Who told me that? She did have a miraculous recovery but that bone in her face had been broken and that she was in a wheelchair for a month and required major surgery. I spoke to Val kilmer one more time while we were on the phone. I stared at my painting. The divers diving in over and over. What is what is ocean. And I tried to remember how I felt when it was beside me in Los Angeles in the passenger seat if the rental car kilmer told me that he and Boise. We're going to get in a car and drive to New Mexico where he still has one hundred sixty acres of land. Meanwhile Tom Cruise tweeted that. The top gun sequel was moving to December. Two of my colleagues were in the hospital and another husband lay in his bed gasping for breath. I attended a Zoom Shiva for a friend's mother who was buried alone. Peter Beard lay in the woods weeks away from being found the VAL kilmer gifts snapped. It's draw over and over forever in a text message. Lydia waited by the phone though she had not been told to expect a call and Val kilmer planned his road trip into the desert This was recorded by autumn. Autumn is an APP. You can download to listen to lots of audio stories from publishers such as The New York Times a payroll and HR company needs to be prepared for whatever's going to happen. You could say that. Over seventy years of experience helping businesses all over the world run. Smoothly is good preparation but for ADP. That's not enough to make sure. Millions of people are getting paid on time and incompliance were staying on top of each new piece of legislation. So it comes down to it. Adp isn't just a payroll and HR company. 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Is Val Kilmer in a Secret Society? [REBROADCAST]

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Is Val Kilmer in a Secret Society? [REBROADCAST]

"Coming to a theater near. You don't sound very exciting. We're coming to you know there's a variety show. I did hear about this idea. It's March twenty fourth okay. It's a little bit of this podcast. You're listening to and a little bit of book tour and a little show and tell if some new projects and we're calling it the variety show audible presents the Rachel Dave Hollis Variety. Show our craft. It's a little bit of the Star. Today morning show. It's a little bit of the rise together podcast. It's a little bit of book tour. All rolled into one. There is a bus. There are no wheels. There have never been never been is respond. Someone asked us today. Is this only for eighteen plus and we were like what no this is for everybody. We're just GonNa make it a fun night out. You deserve a night out and guess what it's the same prices movie ticket so go to wherever you buy your movie tickets you can go to. Amc Regal cinemark tango tickets wherever and in Canada. 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A current song so you can literally pay for playtime. Hey Panini. Hey Panini don't you be a meany? Hey bread and cheese. That's been fighting a small machine. Don't be mean to me. I mean one hundred percent. That is a top hit in the US right now. It's a check reader in the finance world. Hey Panini don't you? Amini like maybe bring me my checks. Oh things became clear. Ramaz access looking for those checks though. Okay wait hold on. Who told us that? That's for Mandy Mandy mic. Ever Lien's good for you for knowing that he's a liar though. Yeah I mean honestly Mandy. Could've just made that with confidence. I believe in what Mandy set me Mandy. This is for you. You know facebook wall plays. You can get away with like the hulk song when he came onto stage. Wwf but you cannot get away with like current music. They will shut you down okay. Okay don't be angry at me for people. The joy of pilot nihilistic. I am sleep deprived. I am sleep-deprived until you. That last night I had the pleasure of hosting not hosting but doing Marie Forleo was in town was on a book tour for her new book. Everything's figure out and I did the interview Cuban a thing with her for her her. Stop here in Austin and it was Super Fun head about almost fifteen gals from girls women from the Hollis Co came in got to watch that and it's awesome Is Super Fun and then afterwards Marie and I were. We are social media phone friends. But we've never actually met and hung out in real life so we went to dinner and I you guys know I mean. I am a slowly by nine fifteen. I was asleep by about nine. I'm so jealous. I like so much fun with her. Like I was so tired. It was the longest day in the world yesterday. And we're sitting at dinner and I'm thinking. Do you ever have that thing where you're like so happy to be where you are but also you're like please don't let it please don't let it be after eight. You know what I'm saying like you don't want it and at some point. I'm like I'm feeling really tired and I look at my phone. It's ten forty and I don't live anywhere near downtown Austin. I am out in the country now. I know I've got a minimum forty five minute drive at home and I was like I love you but I have to take you back to your hotel queen. We gotta go to sleep. I woke up this morning to see that you sent me a text telling you that you are coming home and I was probably already in like a second cycle of remm sleep when you were sending me a note letting me know that you were leaving downtown. Anyone else have a partner. Who if you make a noise if you slightly jostle the bed if you move at all your in the night like leaks fourth as I love her in the middle of earth? I don't know what was going on. You were not once but like three like I got home and I'm always cold. We talked about this. I'm always cold and I get in bed and usually most nights I make dave pretend like it's that scene from the saint when he falls in the river and she has to like hold him to get his body temperature. So make Dave like almost every night of our life. Unlike you hold me. I just need like eight minutes of kilmer reference. Your Outgo Val kilmer incomes. You are welcome. I'm pretty sure that movie still holds up a national thrown off has to anyway so I used to be Dave. Hold me last night again bed. He's already fast asleep. And so I just inchworm my way over to his side of the bed I do. I mean literally touch. You're touching my arm. I just wanted some kind of touching my arm. I've been asleep for just the exact amount of time and you touched my arm and I thought that I was being taken I was almost it was yes you did react as if Liam Niessen. I thought the need to save you. Nason was on the other end of the phone in my dream letting me know. Listen to me they are going to going to take. Oh Okay Liam. What time should I expect them to get here? Oh got here. They're touching my arm. I've been taken. He for wreaked jumped up freaked out a jumped up. And then I'm just like five Al War Mysel- give yourself like some kind of sad lonely creature in the wood honey. Johnson. I'm so I'm so grateful for you. Well when I do my start today journal tomorrow. The first thing I'm writing down is the state reference because bowel. Kilmer is not getting enough credit for the Saint. I remember when that came out. I was like in high school and me and my best friend went to see it and we I mean it was like our eyes were open to what a man looks like. We were never so he always had these different hydros wander. He just like the same. Hanson's nobody is allowed to go. This extra credit. What was that characters name? Almost coyness that is no. That was one of the same lie. No he had the same thing but like what was his name. Now you gotta look it up. I the thing is somebody just. Rachel needs an electric blanket. In fact you know we had have you guys. Listen to the rice together podcasts. Which is our couples. Podcasts one sponsors this is not an ad but whatever sponsors podcast is a sleep number bed so we got a sleep number bed and Dave got the one where the bottom the foot part of the bed. Actually you can make it hot. So the the foot warmer it has a button you can press foot warmer best thing ever put that on thirty minutes. Just hey thirty minutes and then I want you to shut it off. What was his name? Oh my goodness just see I wanNA watch the movie night right now? Dr. Sara don't lie. Did you Google that Simon Simon Simon? Yes remember when o tombstone. He was sickly. She said Yeah huckleberry. Yes Tombstone Tombstone wasn't incredible movie and you're not really a western kind of guy on a westerner else. Speaking of Westerns around that era hitter. Why why do you remember? What the Guy Kurt Russell Kurt? How many times in our marriage have I made the reference? You know that's huckleberry this whole thing about you dell. I'm coming and love coming with me here. Hairballs coming with me and if you don't know what that references. I'm sorry you missed out on one of Kurt. Russell's greatest moments reminds me of all. Could you Google Kurt? Russell hells coming with me. Use signing show. No one knows no. I'm no one but if they did they'd probably say it's the Best Lincoln Statue. Day With H and K and Kurt Russell give it. Give me a little health coming with me overboard with Kurt Russell. Overboard Remember when they tried to remake that like a couple years ago and I'm still haven't forgiven them here. You go all on hold on hold on hold on we gotta get it up here so people can actually see here. We Go Ready Ladies and gentlemen. He's got a dirty mouth. This Kurt Evert sheets. He has been terrorized by the gang of cowboys with the red. Bandanna has heroin by using gives him the right to use that kind of language thirteen in the morning central standard time. He was the law. I am have you heard that hold on I am the law? Here comes loyd. Come on. Come on fly okay. Sorry Nasty there was a long long intro for judge dredd but he does say armed law. Did you ever see not judge dredd. What was the other one judge Judy? Now the one it was silvestre stallone. And it's in the future and all restaurants Taco Bell and Wesley. Snipes is the bad guy with that called something man demolition man. All Demolition how I love that movie. They don't make movies like they did in the ninety S. Can I get a witness friends? Can we get a witness on? Once upon a time mostly snipes. Though he was like the actor of generation he went through a period where he was like the guy in all of the movies and now he's gone. I always wonder this are the gone because they made some bad mistakes and they couldn't get film anymore or love. You have a good day. You Change Your shirt. I like it anche. Oh now. Wow all the facts or are big gun because they just made enough money and they're like I'm over this. I don't think Wesley Seashells yes fit. Wesley Snipes made enough money. Because the only thing I know of him recently is that he was indicted for not adhering taxes. Yes Yeah Leslie you gotTa Pay Your taxes. Brother found him on his weapon. Weapon movies those were good. I like those. Oh Yeah Bill Kilmer val come like he's he's out cameras another one. Who was a hat? A moment was a thing and then where he's acted. As cancer and yeah well. They're they're doing a remake of top gun and I remember there was times where they were like. I don't know if we can get the whole crew back together because he was really sick. I think he's gotten better since he was as sick as he was. But like there was a time when he was really sick. Man really sick other. I feel like we've done basically this. Exact episode reminiscent nineties movies. But let's just go The fifth element was a bad. Now is no good Armageddon con air though rock basically anything Jerry Bruckheimer dead right in the nineties early two thousands we are here for the rock the Rock in a literally out. We all were just like what happened. Where has this movie been my whole life? Don Connery member. That party puts the Green. And then he slams guys head of this face melts off. Sorry if you've got kids watching rock love you love you buddy. Yeah the rock today. Means Dwayne the Rock Johnson. But but the rock as we all know was Nick Cage Sean Connery and Ed Harris. Her being like the only bad guy or one of very few bad guys that you identified with Roland writing when you're like I know you're bad guy but again talking about Nicholas Cage then what part Nicholas Cage again was like. You're right the number one actor during like someone who grew up and it was just like they turned sixteen and then one day they turned twenty six and for those eight years. You're like the greatest actor of your entire eight years of becoming a man or a woman from being a teenager and the answer would be Nicholas Cage if you lived in a very specific particular part time and then what she needs a key key. I didn't drive that car today. Goodbye TAT went sideways sideways. Based OFF NATIONALS. Our national treasure faith often we've watched national treasure with our kids didn't want to get that faceoff reference where they ran their hands. Done the kids face and that's helped them. We've watched national treasurer approximately ten thousand times with our cat. National Treasure is it. Holds up one hundred percent. It's totally believable. There's nothing unbelievable about it at all. I like to believe there is like a secret conspiracy for everything and the idea that likes. There's A. There's a secret book for presidents or that like the masons or whatever that society was about the masons. I don't know how Nice I think if you say the masons housing road and all of a sudden not sat there's amazing or we really do. Come on you guys. We all can be an agreement. The masons are some kind of weird secret society that is like quietly running the world an awesome a mason like building in your town that you're like what happened in that. We sacrifice some kind of person in this bill like member of England's it was a huge like this massive thing with no win no and sometimes it was like what was happening wherever but then sometimes I feel like I would look up and see the soul of the original Mason staring out the window at me. I don't know what they are but I am here for the fact that they exist and I hope that they are in behind the scenes pulling all the levers commit. Sure that everything they do anything wrong. But I'm saying there's just like this society I've never seen. Have you ever seen like a flyer? That's like come join the masons exist. Oh they one hundred percent exists. They have buildings all over the place. I don't WanNa like come join our society which means how do you even get inside the Davinci Code? Yes the Davinci code for me like this that was I the. Here's the thing. I am not a huge reader of actual books that I read that book. It was off Dan Brown. You son of a gun. You turned me and turned me into a rerun. Actual her brother are Mason's. What did he do over different than templars member? That was templar. I just feel like there's meetings are their robes. That happened around candles. I just think whatever we think masons are. They're not that there's more more. Ford has a friend named Mason. I don't believe it's the same thing is obsessed with the Mason. I hear more about the Mason in his class than I hear about anything else. And here's the other thing either. Ford is creating very aggrandize stories about Mason or mason is living in a fantasy world because I promise you every night at dinner. Ford's got a new mason story and it's usually something like this. My friend Mason is literally a millionaire. And I'm like Oh hey like his mommy index like. I don't know where this news like. No no no just mason. Mason has millions of dollars like by himself. Unlike your seven zero. A friend basin is a millionaire. What are you talking about Ruby? Like oh you know what Mommy Mason in my class. He owns a semi truck on my. This kid sounds awesome handling get to be friends with Mason. That's what I WANNA know amid a dad mistake last night. Oh Melissa I'm just GonNa say out loud. I was trying to the on handle the chaos of multiple events at single time. And I got to Ford's baseball game just a little after it started. So I'm like I'm proud feels four. That's eight four four didn't play Baseball Sawyer played baseball. That tells you the kind of night we have so I get to the field and he's just about to come up to bat so I'm like awesome. I didn't miss it back. I am here for this. Let's go and I'm now standing behind the plate as he is waiting for the pitcher to finish his warm ups before the ending starts. And he's like did you see it. Did you see it? And I'm like yes. So yes he's like triple like I know and I was like I don't know what's happening. I gotta find out from other parents. I WanNa make sure that he knows that I saw this thing that he's so excited about. I should have just said I just got here but I didn't so then I bear like I started digging myself into a hole. Yes you're amazing. What an awesome thing. I want you to believe that I am absolutely person who has been here from the beginning of this game so the ending finishes and he comes over and he's like you saw and like yes triple triple and I'm like yeah you said triple he's like triple play and I'm like Oh what is a I made a triple play. You saw the triple play. Tell me about where it happened on the field and I was like all right. I don't know anything. I was just trying to be a good dad. I got here late. I do my best son. I'm doing my best. Don't lie to me like okay. All right so the metro moral of the story is don't allow your kids ages to them. You got their league wait. How about this segue? If you were hoping for a Laugh Navy Days Journal we sold out. I wanted to. I wanted to mention that because we are so grateful to all of you who bought a journal who were going on this journey with us. This is a product that we make entirely ourselves design ourselves. 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Oh I wanna I really WANNA go on. Come on let's go to it. I put a this morning. I am not motivated and I like WanNa just talk to anyone who is just not wired for waking up on fire to chase the kind of life that you say that you want. I'm not motivated and I had an experience this morning. I push myself really hard in the gym. I am the product now of the habits that we have created in the routines that we have created in our life. I'm a product of the accountability that I have in my partner here. I'm a product of the people. Whether it's the conferences or the books or the PODCASTS. Or whatever it might be that we have surrounded ourselves with. I'm going to challenge you to think differently about motivation because I think sometimes we tend to use not being motivated as excuse for why we don't chase down the kind of life that we want to have as if I'm not motivated today but tomorrow or I'm not motivated today but on Monday. Yeah that's a good point. I think the headline ends up being that you are choosing to opt out of showing up for the life that you want. If you are making your showing up contingent on you being motivated because when we get into this last ninety days there one hundred percent are going to be days where you don't feel like doing it and it's going to be because you've committed to the challenge because you have developed the habits routines to ignite engineer make the motivation show up and you've created accountability whether it's in the free community that we're setting up here or through some kind of community that you're setting up in your life. That helps you stay accountable. But don't believe the lie that Oh well. I'm not motivated today. Somebody's GonNa take the day off and wait until my motivation comes. Back manufacturer engineer your motivation. That is their facebook group. There is it's called made for more So a couple of things. Lots of people are asking. What about when you're feeling burnout? Is it okay to rest when you're filling burnout and I want to be really clear? There's a big difference between being exhausted being tired. That's one thing and being burnt out being being is it burnt or burned. I think it's burn burned out burned-out but I I don't know you know what I'm saying. That is not you. Don't get burned out because you are pushing yourself super hard in the gym you getting burned out is a mental thing. Not a physical thing. It might be physical manifestations of the way that you're feeling mentally but you get burned out because you're not excited about the thing you're doing anymore you're burned out because you're spreading yourself too thin you're burned out because you're spending all your time showing up for other people instead of showing up for yourself you're burned out because you're working super hard and not making traction in the way that you want to you are burned out because you don't have something lighting your heart on fire not because you were pushing yourself physically if you are physically tired like they're absolutely days were like man we need to. We need to take it easy. But for the most part if you're moving your body thirty minutes every day even where physically our muscles are sore not hard to go out and do a work. We might just do a lighter than we normally do but I want to be really clear on that. If you're feeling burned out you need to ask yourself was the last time I did something I cared about. When was less omitted? Something I was passionate about. When was the last time I did something I showed up for others? I laughed so hard at one. P my pants. I did something that sparked joy in my life because burnout is a mental thing. Not a physical one. I think to there are times where you feel burnt out and you opt out of the self care. Because you're now going to sit on the CA like you've decided that sitting on the couch and decompressing is the thing that you need when you may in fact need is going on that walk. What what what you may need is sitting on the couch of a therapist. What you may need is like doing something that actually will pour into you in a way. That isn't just about relaxation. I'm not like against relaxation. But Oh yeah. I think there are times when I have needed to refill my cup and I've opted for streaming something on net. That didn't actually leave me refilled it. Let me sit and do nothing but I actually felt more lethargic when I was finished with that instead of how I might have felt if I'd have done something that Moore poured into me and speaking pouring into people house this segue again. Oh It's coaching day. Oh It's coaching day. Once a month I do live coaching to ours. Life Coaching To Ours Business Coaching in today's my coaching day. So I got a wrap this up so I can head on over to the studio this. I'm teaching two hours social media marketing part two so we did part one and it was so popular with coaching group. There were like please please. Please take a deeper dive. I didn't know that talking about social media for two hours wasn't going to be enough for him to do two more today than this afternoon in life coaching. We're talking about relationships and I have a special guest. How do you do this? I guess teacher coming in this afternoon. 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Rob Haze has never seen Thelma and Louise

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Rob bob has never seen thelma and louise is a great script. The games are are bizarre. <hes> we're joined by c. J. tola donna as well and we have a really good time. It's it's fun. Rob is super funny. He has new album that is out now called haza pedia. It is out everywhere. You can listen to it. <hes> you know spotify firefighters rivulets albums haza pedia rob stand up is so so funny he's also a writer and is featured sometimes on sherman showcase on i._f._c. and so you can check out it has worked there check out his album haza pedia and robin c._j. Along with michael joyce who you know for the show ronna stand up showcase in los angeles every single single thursday at kuzina filipino eagle rock so if you wanna see some live stand up you can check them out thursday's their checkout rob's album haza pedia sherman showcase see it's so fun great episode and and for free all the listeners some stuff is transitioning here. We're no longer going to be on stitcher premium right. 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I'm going home to visit my family soon so gonna try and do some fun stuff with my dad and my seven month old nephew who have seen about the same amount of movies in their lives <hes> and then if you wanna <hes> seamy tilson jokes and stuff. If you're in denver i'm going to be at the high plains comedy festival in september <hes> for few days super fun and if you're in los angeles. It's a little ways out. I'm going to be recording an album on december seventh. See you can come see me record a standalone antebellum december seventh at good heroin which is in echo park in los angeles hosted by the wonderful dave ross and matt engebretsen but i'm gonna be recorded album very exciting being and it will be outside which truly will be a nightmarishly bad decision i making for a comedy album to record it outside echo park but here we art and it's free december seventh you market down to saturday. You can come watch me record my comedy album <hes> then and here's the episode with rob. Hey everybody this is never seen it. I'm your host kyle. Is this the podcast dr comedians rewrite famous movies and t._v. Shows they've never seen before today. Having never seen thelma and louise we have rob hayes was going on nothing <hes> <hes> and then this is the one of the ones. I don't know if i've seen if we said that a little bit earlier okay <hes>. Have you seen join c. J. told the donohoe's here with us. Sorry i didn't mean to like what about if i literally you. Don't say a word the whole time. I just didn't like val kilmer shirt and that's so i'm not wearing a val kilmer shirt but it's a draw in an illustrated a <hes> picture of muhammad ali my shirt under under button out yeah. He's i guess you shouldn't really i just see half of a face and i'm like i know those lists. I had to san like val kilmer. I yeah what if you wanna just shake the number two never seen this never seen muhammad ali or never seen that whole shirt allie entire families my entire families from louisville kentucky where they shot topgun parents met and my dad grew up muhammad. Ali boulevard changed val kilmer picture. C._j.'s ages like draw muhammad ali from memory and robs like okay. I'll start with the fighter jet. He's playing volleyball it. It does not look like falcons drawing. I mean yeah i get it. I get it out to art yeah the general idea but it also says all lira under his face but you don't wanna make assumptions now so low of <unk> muhammad ali rest in peace such val. Oh camera where you are career. I think making the remake of top gun right or is the trailers already outs. Maybe there is a shot. That looks exactly like l. Val kilmer but is totally not because guys in shape is mohammed ali mohammed ali. I don't know what they're <hes>. I nursery topgun idea but they already making a movie podcast and you've never okay all right yeah. But what is the university. Have you heard the sound check. I mean sure i've heard some of the songs from it. It's not like an originalist like john. Williams score is it. I think there is an original score but there's like the eighties hits. Both the scores good the town tune in. You know what i'm doing right. This is what song plays during volleyball. Maybe volleyball seen yes c._b._s. So changes only top forty. Okay okay they do while yeah. I'm super into the l._a. Radio station i love because none of them are specific to any time period. They'll be gets <hes> what's the one that's like nineties hip hop op ninety zip up fifty cents and then here's a song that came out last year and then they just kind of all play stuff from whatever but i like it. I think there's good radio out here. Yeah i do do like the radio ad. Did we ever listen to radio in new york when we were out there <hes> when i was on a moving truck yeah yeah. What was it like out. There committed here yeah. I mean like hot ninety seven during the day. Is it kind of builds that like new york energy rhinos like okay. They're playing into a certain person like we watch clips online. It's like good talking to you. Listen you like oh yeah. I need this to live in this unlike when flex drops those bomb like us. It's great when you're headed like you've driven from philly and you i need you know you just need that like last thirty minutes to get into one mile for the most important day in the the thank you. I'm glad all right so before we get into the script. I'm gonna give you guys a tease of guess what movie kyle's dad is describing. Having only trail never haven't heard of the movie so i'm just gonna play a few seconds from this and then we'll get back to it at the end right okay. He's talking so fast. That's it for now any early guesses. He's talking to fast. Is this movie current. We'll see i'm thinking you've got to think movies where they talk. Fast chris tucker chris tucker okay see i'm thinking social networks something there where you know <hes>. They like snappy happy with it. Yeah i must say i guess we'll play goal thing. It's way too long <hes> rob so you'd never seen thelma and louise. I've never seen seen a lotta movies a lot of movies. Let's do the list before we get it because you had to list. You said you're working on. You just saw goodwill hunting for the first time said it tomorrow boo of of course my phone <hes> to be respectful to the podcast <hes> the first time in the history the podcast someone turned off and we're going to pull that phone phone. What else do we need some 'cause we talked a little bit. It's good will hunting is a is a very famous movie. That's not a franchise but it launched the careers ears at two of the most famous dudes in the world and you just saw was morris before goodwill hunt. I think we're seeing ninety four right did they shoot uh-huh is like ninety eight. Oh wow i thought mallrats was just a documentary about making good will hunting thing met david zamora's probably why not no no. That's the thing that lingered throughout all of it was. He always had something better to do and ben. Ben affleck is just in all the kevin smith who i love kevin smith but it's like matt. Damon seems busy dame in doghmane jellison dogmas best one. I love dogma so good will hunting for c._j. You've seen good one yeah yeah yeah. What is. When did you see probably when you were younger thousands. I think i was more trying to get through all those movies in the nineties at were big that hadn't seen because it yeah you know there's a lot of movies that if you see it at the right age are better than if you see them now like oh maybe almost all of them you were getting. The stuff isn't for us anymore but i missed it. All i missed the gooney. I missed all of the late eighties early nineties like stuff. I missed. I haven't seen goonies are lost boys or neverending story. I have seen home home alone home alone. Two i have seen home alone also lost three. I did not know there was a third is is homeless. Three was in theaters do they is it how many he's macaulay culkin and just to to well. That's not i've seen those two nine looking at i've seen ferris bueller. That's probably the only john hughes movie seem pretty in pink so i haven't even heard of that. Trays automobile have seen that those ones kind of the small amount of movies. My dad likes switches. People listening to my dad has been a movie theater in space. Jam does to a movie theater. He's like no more. That soundtrack was the first c._d. I ever own the soundtrack was good and they made made another soundtrack with the v._h._s. That was even tell you everybody on that. Soundtrack holds up to this day. Wait reno who wrote the bugs. Bunny lawsuits suits who go down. That sounds like a good person. I would say historically great person. Are you okay okay okay. Let me know who wrote the bugs bunny wrap year. Come on man jay jay z. I just learned that like in the last few months. That's a crazy insane where he now the word out who would have thought when that happened. He would be more famous than bugs bunny now yet yeah the that's the thing they wanna bring space jim. These kids know to athletes. They don't know it's going to be funny these cards. They're going to be the coups that guy. Who's the guy in the helmet. Why can't i see his face. That's not sponge that will fund. I would love a crossover. Get a cartoon dora in there. She's like there's the hoop. I'm scared. I'm a little i'm alone. These kids don't know looney tunes. They know they're trying to bring back like there's like they released like ten shorts. What's the the idea yeah you have to. You have to watch it vertically on your phone holding the button down. I think it's just not for us. We're <unk> stuff isn't for us anymore that all the time people are like if you think if you're mad at the little mermaid is different now. You gotta realize it's not for you. People who are like. I owned the first i little mermaid. They're gonna try yeah that this isn't for you and you. If you're on a movie at eighty nine the this design for you to take your kid to see the little mermaid right. Nothing is for us anymore and i think this space jam tool probably be bad but space him one if you're like forty saas based. I'm on your part well unless you're my dad. You probably like that's it but i thought it was the dope shit ever. I don't know i feel like i feel like parents when they saw spatially and there was like they may really got. They got all these people do. They were for sure excited that bill murray was in the year bill murray really talking trash. The larry bird on the golf course uh-huh yeah but the thing is it opens up you forget opens up with fifteen minutes of michael jordan highlights and so as many highlights kid ear in the theater. You're watching michael jordan highlights on the big screen like already my favorite visit best seats. I've ever had to see deejays. Did they thing this. This great great has like the weird everything that happens not in looney. Tune land is so insane in space is as weird as in space jam everything they're trying to like. Put the story line with the kids finding stuff and going and getting it. It's just like come on to watch him dunk on the hot rabbit michael jordan watching jim rome. That was the thing that was what the phrase bill. Simmons is in space jam boy. I'll still be blocked on twitter. If he's in spaceships yeah i got to hear what because i asked him <hes> if he could write a whole article without bringing up madman servants servants to him you are going to be in space you can make money save two alien races without vowed him and then then you put your top three skew is still got it skips little argument will be michael jordan already this <hes> all right thelma and louise so i got the list we read. Oh yeah yeah so what are some of them. That didn't make the do. I've never seen a bronx tale. Raging bull okay cooley high <hes> philadelphia saving private ryan godfather went into two and three but threes now lists the usual such a then so funny that is such a culture thing where the i. I haven't seen the third one either but i didn't bother typing the number three. That's what everyone thinks about god. Wes sledders three canes film guard the usual sousse suspects he superfly close encounters american graffiti a few good men casino basic basic instinct a perfect murder silence of the lambs and schindler's list man. That's a hefty list. That's a great list of like that can really be someone's favourite movie that list of someone's favorite movies who's thirty seven right now seen a bunch of them. I don't think you need to see seat and see saving private brian and then i think you're alright. He is like the dark knight. Oh yeah yeah yeah. It's a really good way round did go back and superimposed. They went back to remove the world trade centers because it was <hes> people can have mentors but they superimpose the joker joker or is robert de niro to face like which one half of their face okay you're asking which one was unnecessarily shoved shoved into the movie. It's good though he does go but the action is is. Is you kind of feel like the dark knight definitely had seen there's a scene he the he oh yeah melissa mccarthy airplane which is a sequel to heat. It's like what they're doing with bill and ted yeah. What were they doing villain ten. They're making a sequel with their daughters but also with the bill and ted or whatever whatever happens their daughters come to save them or something. I don't mean can smoke weed to in two thousand nineteen breaking news <hes> dumb and lease he's. I don't know we'll talk about what we know about it. Afterwards okay c._j. Said you've seen it before a little bit ago but i've been meaning to rewatch it so this is terrible from heavy really been meaning to re- well brad pitt after seeing once upon a time. I'm like yeah. He takes off his shirt shirt. Which is like the big moment. A woman gasped and my movie yeah people go nuts in an listen. I've been listening to podcasts when they talk about they own spend twenty minutes talking about this one scene brad pitt takes his shirt off and i think this is like the first movie i think the reason they talk about that. Specific scene is because it right after is a very weirdly racially charged charged. <hes> senior who were with bruce lee is a character. Someone's like yeah but remember when he took his shirt but not the part where quentin tarantino hates beasley sleep for some reason these people. I guess they seem choi. No probably not that day. Okay yeah no but there's something about this. You gotta see rob all right now. It is crazy. He's so hot when he takes his shirt off. It's wild back o._k. Alvin lee's brad pitt with no shirt on less <hes> rob you can cast it up till till whoever you want to play. Well okay <hes> who wants to be thelma. You tell us okay all right. I'll beat them. <hes> and that's how it works. Listen all right who wants to direct you could be louise. Louise wright c._j. Could be baas. You could be a black man patsy patsy j. great and shirtless cowboy there. We go i eh maybe i don't know if i don't feel like this right if we come up with c._j. Just sent me a contestant. It can be contested all right yeah raider. They'll mail louise written by rab hayes based on cut scenes from maniacs family guy in the alternate ending of wayne's world two. They don't contact me contacting this. When i had a script deal and <hes> i was breaking the rules years writing scripts on there like hey don't write anything and of course i put my like edris because it says on final chapter edges someone found the script screens like just took a picture of incentives to me me from adam silver right now. They're leaking out yes right so right took a picture of a scripted they found because at my edges on incentives to my phone phone and i was so scared that it was like i was going to like lose the dealer something yeah but it was just some good samaritan those like other addresses on here like the inner phone number. I'll just text into them and then you know. They clearly left their screw. That's nice do they read the rest of the script. I i don't know but i was i was. I'm sorry what do i do. How much do you think they're going to work for someone for felt like the by backwards. They make all right all right all right. Let's do it exterior mountain prison present day the sunbeam stir blue sky over a mountain range fool of red mountains. Our attention is drawn towards a guardrail that has been busted through the sound of crow echoes. The heat from the sun beating on the ground makes everything blurry alone lizard walks near the the opening is stops the runaway title card domain louise exterior house a week ago the houses have matching shing odor mailboxes that look weather from years of us in the back clothes hang from a clothesline outside of a small duplex del mar a gena davis was looking woman after the vlad but before the gene walks outside and takes the clothes off a clothesline interior house moments later then will walks in and puts the close dan she plops on the couch and turns on the tv jeopardy is on final jeopardy has begun them feels around their couch looking for the phone she files according finds a phone somehow under the couch she picks up the phone interior diner moments later a visit diners crazy people are starting to get antsy and the kitchen is totally backed up the phone rings louise a waitress that resembles the lady from the details of this is the phone. Hello thelma i i know i know i'm gonna miss wheel of fortune tonight. What they're gonna give away the car tonight. Louise wax tour bus bus a big men in a short short sleeve shirt and tie think mr tuttle from saved by the bill. He hands it to full plates. Hey dude stake these the table three. I can't live like this. I quit okay. Louise don't come crawling back. Louis storms out lewis gibson her car. It's a huge pattern view blue muscle car. She looks at the time is seven thirty five. She runs a red light cars crash. Police sirens go off off louis higher races as she looks in her rear view mirror. The police pulling over the other people from the accident lewis labs. She looks at her clock is seven forty seven. She jumps out the car and barges in his house into your house. Moments later louise his walks in and goes right to the kitchen and pose a beer out of the fridge. Oh my god she is winning. She is not winning the car. There's only one envelope left a lucky idiots. You know it someone does all the work gets bankrupt. Then a moron gets all the money. The skill is in a spin and the last category is sports are s. t. l. e. is given to you now. I need three contestants and avail. The clue reads blink blink s. e. blink blink ill. She's gonna blow it <hes> k. k. f. n. y. Why life can she even do that. It's baseball wrestling with eh. Louise follow the couch laughing league of cry never be wrestling you idiot that has our s._t. L. e. in it. This even watch out no because she probably has a life thelma. What the hell does that mean. I mean this is pathetic. I had to quit my job. Just watch wheel of fortune. You quit yeah. They treated me like a servant. You are a server. I know i know but i was supposed to get off at six. They know i'll have to get home to watch my shows. I realized something today. What is that. I have a talent. I can get away with crimes like a master criminal. Yes elma. You're my best friend right. No doubt i say we leave this dumb ass town and become hardcore criminals. What about the house. What about frank frank. Don't love you this house. We can do better. The average person can't even win wheel of fortune okay. We'll promise me one thing what's that if this doesn't workout in a work louise do they including hands staring into it convenience store the next day people are waiting in line at the gas station. They started as louise car crashes outside. They'll men louise renne inside both holding guns and winger isky mass mother fuckers empty your pockets. The clerk tries to pick pick up the phone but the downtown too loud. Thelma points the gun at his chest empty cash register any y'all support the m._l._k. Okay holiday. Everyone in the story looks at a black man in the bet. I do good well. You can leave. That's okay hurry up. Can i have a bag. The clerk gives louisa plastic bag bag. Put the money in the bag now. Everyone puts it valuables in the bag. That's pretty good them in louisa rush out and get in the car. We need to go we need to we need to go back shopping. They'll it takes tape the tape player john cougar mellencamp. We don't listen to that anymore. It's the nineties them pops in the tape. A hundred amount of renting by india plays them in louise's speed off and do the handshake they pass a motel signed in the car stops. They back up and turn around exterior motel night. They'll ms counting all the money as low as louise pulls into the motel. They see a shirtless cowboy. It's brad pitt if you did pour. Hey cowboy. Where's your shirt. I don't even know what that is. I can show you then. We'll walks up to the shirtless calloway and gets real close to his face. What about frank around phrase not to mention it. Factual movie ended with mocking. What about in the whole movie. This is out in yeah. It was a marvel take on. She realizes uh-huh that the plot of the movie power is the plot of the movie like when keanu reeves in the matrix is like i know kung fu ooh uploaded crime into her crying so yeah. I didn't know that much about them louise. He's i don't either i definitely i don't know your script made me more sure. I haven't seen because i think i was listening to. This probably out goes but i do love you had the light line in the beginning alternate seen him wayne's world to think people our age. That's how we know like these the graduate we know it <music> as jokes from wayne's world yeah i think anna maniacs a simpsons are a lot of things where you go back and rewatch eighties movies. These are especially if you love the simpsons if you go rewatch hitchcock or the twilight zone and you're like oh this is aw this is this is why they have a thousand episodes. Yes 'cause they just do this. They do <hes>. I haven't is brad pitt in the movie a lot. I didn't think so. I thought he just sort of it was just a shirtless guy. Yeah ah yeah they come across them. Here's how little i knew about it before. We i googled louise to make sure that wasn't brad. Pitt's character cast me a second. We're gonna go one of them. No the we definitely needed some real who telman lease. They're real humans at at one point yeah <hes> this is based on a real story. Oh in real life. I thought you meant or the figment of someone's imagination snuggle. He's not the word real was eh figment of imagination opposite of real. I'm like were in the story when we actually real okay. Hey no no worthy. I meant like bonnie and clyde ye i dunno. I dunno does anyone else. I don't know there's no way to find out so i'm sure shoe. Ladies have done this or something like it. They'll be illegal all right great script. I think you nailed the tone yeah. Is it a comedy. Is it just sort of like one of those like easy. Rider type movies were just kind of happens. I really don't know i don't know i don't know what the stakes are. I don't know how they got into but my when i was trying to decide what to do like my girlfriend's just asking me. What what do you think this movie is about. Two women are bored and then they decided this this be criminal yeah. It'd be criminal yeah that maybe there's no way to know more harsh than that as to why they're criminals do they kill people. <hes> yeah hell yeah. Gena davis is abused by. I believe her boyfriend or husband and then she's like. I don't want to give away the whole movie movie. I wanna tell you guys what happens to watch the trailer and in the trailer. There's a lotta people on phones. There's a gena davis is on the phone. Susan sarandon's on found the boyfriends on the phone like landline landline phone landline phone. It's a lot of hay going into visit like can i use your phone. Yeah i used to try and write a game for this call. How would cell phones change change this old movie and where you just sorta talk about an old movie and how cell phones would change and they kind of ruined all movies for about fifty years. Oh yeah do you take any old movie uvi and you had a cell phone and the anything before like two thousand five and it just doesn't have the heat with cell phones is just kind of a misunderstanding they could just kind of you know we're all being able to text away from conflict resolution kevin tonight. Here kevin's not here carrying here. It's kevin tech savvy kevin textile. I'm at home they turn around and go get him but you wonder how they're going to remake it right. All it is in the beginning to gonna kill the phone phone. Somehow that's what always happens. It was at the killed. The phone departed is like a big thing is where everything happens where there's not cell phone service so real conversations could happen or the weapons have a password. Have you seen in you know a gun. Face the point being gonna yourself online to see your face in the sequel. We need an excuse to do karate all right. Let's get the guns password. I did see because there's like a big samoan hand to hand combat might so may not work all right. I'm here for that. I'm here for a compilation of excuses. His wife technology can't yes mostly all screenwriting yeah. I love it all right like when the okay so we've been doing this thing podcast for way too long called the bracket of shame and being shamed and we're trying to do is find out the movie or tv. Show people get the most shame for having not seen. We're in the quarterfinals now okay. We're gonna talk about the two quarterfinal matchups okay. This is from the television side of the bracket. So you know march madness. Stop bracket. This division. Is the what you bring up. If you meet someone from baltimore division <hes> and so we got don't who don't want to tell you who the one c._d.'s <hes> so general reaction await. I forgot the one seed actually lost in this one so we have four t._v. Shows matchups your gut reaction for what you get more shame for having not seen or someone like if i say something like i haven't seen top gun right how you guys like whoa you know whatever net amount of shaming the first matchup is mad men versus parks and rec okay if someone told you they hadn't seen both both of those. Where's your reaction. Here's the thing i've never seen madman so i can't really i can't really shame someone for nazi amendment and the only thing i know about man men's what pete holmes has told me on you made it weird yeah well what <hes> which one are you more embarrassed. Yes so then what comes up and how did he react when you send you what i do what you did to start a podcast. That's probably a smart way of going about it. What i do is i say hey. I have a lot of old people in my life. All they do is watch t._v. From their error yeah right all my grandparents did was is watch westerns yeah andy griffith. My dad ceo watches andy griffiths right so i'm saving the dope shows for win <hes> old because that's all wanna see anyway okay so it's gonna be new. I'm saving breaking batum saying saving the wire so if you go crazy these snow where the wire i feel like the scenes i've seen i was like a kind of like i kind of need to be removed from this for a while for me in. This school looks a lot like my school. Okay yeah but i'm only seen school seen so yeah. I don't know it's a high school. Germany and my is it is degrassi was based on the line. I think but yeah autumn shows i'm waiting you know so you're going to be eighty eighty and you're going to be like. Does anyone have a net flicks password. Komo is gonna be in the brain but in that's true you'll just shy. Shut your eyes and watch the wire. Lays is grandad sleep now. He's watching breyer. We'll be back to the what are those game boys that you are the virtual virtual boy. It'll just be over your. I like dragon ball z manner. He'll be watching the wire. It was it was seven dollars rent that from a watchdog western. My folks win do now. I've never ah told no because they were free. I would break them and things very break. Parents never lay you rent systems or get cheese bread with pizza the mad i can tell how much above definitely space yeah give them. Some big parents let you wear cool sneakers or bite down on job sneakers with the lights accessorize so much now because i it was taken away from me as as a kid val kilmer wasn't a big enough activist my shirt art. They don't like my saint merge what c._j. Have you seen in parks and rec. Think of someone like rob says he hasn't seen either these cutting madman madman. It's a heavy lift for the bracket. Yeah parks and rec is like i don't want. It's <hes> it can be a little too goofy or people. I mean people. I think that i have friends who i'm from. My hometown who don't get comedy not to say like parks and rec is like this wild. You know absurd comedy that you have to get it to like it but like they are like oh. We hate et goofy shit. Really it is pretty yeah yeah okay. I love beat the wire fan because people are voting on instagram and twitter for what what what it is and ah people really low. I mean i love park. I think it's very yeah i love parks and rec and i feel like parks and rec. I if it's on it could it could suck thirty thirty minutes out of me can suck it our ad me like and i loved it when it was on but the thing is parks and rec didn't get the love you really unlikely today he got he got the love from the people who loved it but it was you know it wasn't like the office also wasn't isn't the hit of modern family many emmys so it's hard to. It's hard to make a case in this like. I'm a google it. I'm gonna look it up. I do think that's one of the things i think i might be wrong by. Steve curl and amy poehler both never won emmy for for the office and for parks and recreation and you know family seemed to sweep up for which i've never seen this is pretty fun. I remember i fell off in the middle somewhere. Buddies always funny but i i think park snark is almost right in between the office in modern family where it's like very caricatured driven workplace thing mockumentary but you can't yeah. I don't know about shaming somebody for parks. This weird you wanna put somebody on parts and you wanna be like hey we watch just watch the first couple of episodes <music> with me. You know like like i get that but i don't. I don't know if you really you got to be in the crowd. You gotta you gotta be the right service depth of fits third fourth fifth deep like not just like the supporting cast like the i'm in two episodes of season so oh funny who are like purred happily and the people who are like in the show that much are hundred percent funny and i think getting like adam scott and in rob lowe is getting carried the show i believe struggling and they brought in a face to get it in the rob. Lowe thing was just such a home run yeah. It was crazy easy but it is a lot like the warriors get into this already so funny yeah and now it's so funny and the best guy is funny on it and it had stronger last couple seasons in the office it did. It was funny so unbelievable but i didn't even care 'til rob. Let's listen to is out the whole season <hes> all right our other match chep in the what you bring up if i might have to change the name of the bracket or of lisa the segments since the wire lost but <hes> we have friends versus the sopranos get another the comedy drama matchup. I think the sopranos could probably win the whole thing that's kind of. It's been the biggest <hes> dominant force in the bracket so far. I'm saving the sopranos until you're yeah. I mean i do watch it in meetings because it's you know you look like an idiot trying to sell it showing you seen the sopranos those last night. It was crazy right. I picture you. I know that's exactly what they thought based off of the ending right yeah. You know what enough to say conversion. I li- i picture you make pitch every show. You pitches something in the sopranos because you're so calm like yeah. It's a little bit like detroiters and the sopranos cartoon cartoon yeah definitely but yeah versus friends. I'm never going to go with friends. I'm never going to go for a hate for it's out shame you for like inference inside out yeah. I feel like i feel more shame because friends. This was like it was like the culture h. Sopranos was on h._b._o. Extra unit like the post seinfeld seinfeld coach nice yeah. I don't think i watched it was on t._v. It's all all right. I don't know i think i tried like watched through all of it when it first became streaming and i was like they're all bad people yeah and how do they all sit. It's it is so oh funny that the jokes about an hour. How do they afford that nice apartment. How come they have nothing to do but it's like that is true. None of them have anything to do any day of the whole show and they all have so much money yeah but it's all right i think it'll be i was going to be hard to beat. I think beautiful to give me to watch french. Take watching friends just man we should do separate podcast where i put the five episodes of friends that you would like no oh really mad when kyri came out with a friend's color way of the kyrie's like another another podcast where i get angry about yeah. I didn't like that club either dispose bob. I i would have been like all right. I'm here for rob never worn it where he won't go get stuff when it's collaborated by athletes shows they don't hey first of all stolen firm living in single. You know what i'm saying. It's been admitted that the the exact past living single regretted it was like let's let's make make our own version of living single <hes> third vault when i got to college there were people there that were obsessed with friends. They used the shame me for liking seinfield over friends. They tried to make me watch friends to fit in. I pretended to laugh bit friends. This is the most true to this part last conversation. We've had in the podcast like this. This is my gateway into like sander. Insane is like i have to. I have to get to the my true. What is come. I gateway into stand up was also laughing at stuff. Other people thought was funny y- the stand up it makes sense all right. Will somebody's gotta do something about this like. I'm not crazy yeah for not thinking like they need yeah. You know what i'm saying and if i ever meet if i ever meet jennifer levin wanted to be a show i would li- like you already take a stand right there. I mean courtney cox on my lab but you know what you long. Yeah yeah yeah well. They won't even care if you don't bring it up yeah no you you meet them office space. Hey courtney. I'm rob hey rob. What did you think of friend. Let's start. We ought to miller's came. That's perfect yeah. Were you ever onset at ready to rumble <hes> all right. We're gonna play a game called build the perfect movie <hes> <hes> this bill for movie. You must combine two scores from our category to build the perfect movie as close to a hundred percent on rotten tomatoes as possible without going over prices right rules apply so you're competing against each other. Okay <hes> know movies. Don't go over. You cannot go over okay so know movies ever seen prices right. I really nobody commission prices right lane like i really not really want anyone who has no right to write an episode of bryce yeah. They might know because they you might be right. Never seen by rob hayes based on what i saw. Happy gilmore me. Oh it's so funny <hes> <hes> okay so you two movies so what we're doing today is your both gonna try and build a perfect sports movie. Movie rob will go first then c._j. Okay then we'll recap the scores and then whoever has the higher or the lower rotten tomatoes score from them crystal and we'll go for arriving about rotten tomatoes tomatoes yet <hes> do they retroactively like older movies that predate. Maybe the website <hes> they. I mean everything's on there it it goes reviews those reviews from thirty nine those reviews from lake that is a great question it is it is from whenever the review was written like i mean i think like roger ebert has gone with the wind review on their scores. We're not going off. Audience score is going separate except for the old movies. Get you okay <hes> so i see you're picking any sports movie and then you've got to combine it with another sports movie. Okay eh one hundred all right. I'm gonna try to hit towards the middle. I'm not gonna try to go to high <unk>. Finding loewen's going to be difficult some going with basketball skip ball all right. Go ahead and just pull that up. What do you think baseball's around. I'm thinking <music>. I'm thinking forties but i don't know you know what i'm saying this like. I don't know about yeah so you go tin cup. What if i argued that was in sports movie but basketball was okay so let's recap recap rob basketball c._j. Tin cup baseball forty two percent komo komo tin cup seventy percents. Oh god okay. I got a really bad one so c._j. You're gonna go. I this round. You're going to try and get you. Gotta get as close to thirty percent as you can. <hes> all right. I'm gonna go thunderstruck kevin durant whole oh hundred hear. You're playing conservatively wait. This is the wrong thunderstruck academy award nominee. I can't even find it now. This is a movie about a yet moves in theory. I wonder how many theaters got thunderstruck. There's a katy web series at nike. He put out in those early days where it's him shooting. It is great. I we got thunderstruck rob. You are at forty two percent with basketball okay so here's what happens now. I'm gonna i'll tell you now actually just pick one pick one still figuring the rules this game okay. No i'm in between to <hes> see. I'm ago like mike. One year like mike would okay great well. Let's talk about it too because let's over kids. That's a pretty good movie. I mean it's going to be it. Is you know people generally review movies based on what they're trying to do right right like ebert would give four stars to a bad action movie trying to be a bad ex-movie and sierra <unk> cloud atlas or something like the <hes> okay c._j. Tin tub and thunderstruck tin cup seventy percent thunderstruck twenty seven seven percent ninety seven percent almost built the perfect movie rob basketball forty-two percent like mike fifty seven percent ninety nine percent yeah. I'm no head incredibly perfect move ever had to closest to sat up in my seat this whole time. I was just yesterday that i was like avenue i o six man would have landed shot you over six twenty. Three percent uh-huh yeah sad movie. We've ever made in the game is about lil bow inland the guy south park standing with we're doing it. That was crazy crazy for that who else who else got last time. Both people went over <hes> the first time we had someone. I think tom hanks was the first one was that right and someone like ninety two or ninety three percents but it was like from a not from eighty nine and then some two or three blake some something that bombed <hes> cambridge. I had to take tracy reynolds making it when i started doing the math when i looked uh-huh started sweating over here i was like i don't keep a straight face. <hes> boy all right great round all right now. We're gonna be working together for the next game. This game called before and after and how this works is <hes> explained it. A little bit beforehand is to movie title title smashed into one okay. I'll tell you the new plot. Sometimes it's like a perfect thing where it's just complete overlap <hes> sometimes like you'd be like once upon upon a time in hollywood nights. That's perfect sort of sometimes. It's like the wolf of wall e street where it's kind of smashed together. Just kinda gotta figure it out and shout out to the people who sent me these ones today. We got some from j. J. d. s. h. eleven and three chord me on instagram. Thanks for sending me before and after titles. It saves me time coming up with them but i wrote these plots all right. I want you ready. Here's the plot you told me the title a man and his young son wandered through a post apocalyptic world where they get hired as professional bouncers to clean up rowdy bars okay one of them. I'm thinking is after earth is road house about bouncers. Is there a movie called after hours. Yeah there is a man. His young son wander through a post apocalyptic world. Were they get hired as professional bouncers to clean up rowdy bars. Hyde is professional bounces cleanup. One of you has one of the movies right. Okay i feel it what other one of bouncer's bouncer movies if there's no no you're right. You're right with the bouncer movie. After that's what i was thinking about two so far i think okay roadhouse post-apocalyptic man and max <hes> codey banks was prepackaged just looking for though roadhouse oh the road it but that's more of a book than a movie it believe it or not the whole movie is a movie <hes> list because i don't even know what it's a better better book than it is moving vigo mortenson who's assigned vigo mortenson kid in that movie. The right to buckle up also a man in his son wandering through post apocalyptic world literally only eliminates. It's like seven movies that i've ever been made the roadhouse. What a jerk next one a secret society of assassins recruits a teddy bear that came to life and teach him to curve bullets. <hes> okay society of sciences ted wanted wanted they got it all right <hes> a forty year old working woman travels through a wormhole to look for mankind's mankind's replacement planet and during the trip ends up developing feelings for a handsome twenty something. This one's real dumb some back to the future. I'm thinking thirteen going on thirty. No because she forty uh-huh okay okay little. Can you say the beginning part again. Uh forty year old working woman <hes> travels through warm hall to look for mankind's replacement planet and during the trip ends up developing feelings for handsome twenty something this one's what i call a steak sandwich one so okay. The first movie is at the beginning and the end and the second movies in the middle is women in the title. No let's see planet of the apes apes they <hes> they was. They wasn't looking for a replacement planet. They just okay mine and my ligand for replacement placement planned movie. That is a remarkable planet. Nah that's mars. Oh no a replacement for something working woman who ends up developing feelings for handsome twenty something oh <hes> house her groove bag. How stella got got her planet back now looking for travelling through wormhole to look for mankind's replacement plan a wormhole home fine. How stella got her hitchhikers guide to someone who borrowed a book yeah. I've fell asleep when it moved <hes> day man what worm there's too many <music> horse to replacement plan also suit. This might not be a human. It might be alien that eh through the wormhole to find a replacement planet. That's your big breakthrough bad heavy out. See orlando jones. It'll movie posters and a pizza place so i don't know yeah give it to us. This is is how stella got her groove back. <hes> i've never seen interstellar christopher nolan favorite movies rebecca got that wants. She texted me. How interstellar gutter group <hes> all right this last one so dumb barely works one word here. We go to astronauts on a routine space. Mission are stranded in deep space with no link to earth and after landing on a lush alien planet one astronaut falls in love with alien woman and gets drawn into the battle for her world old that just seems like one movie really definitely does because both of these movies didn't have enough going on okay okay so to estimate stranded routine space mission are stranded in deep space with no link to earth okay no linked to earn they land on a lush alien world and one of the astronauts what's falls in love with an alien woman and gets drawn into the battle for her planet is drawn. It's a battle for her plan. So what are what are the two astronaut movies or to astronaut taught. I'm thinking gravity roof. Okay so gravity leary the <hes> euphoria with now the movie where we on is the the aliens you're talking about gravel battleship battleship alien the alien is begins with a v. is like oh yeah a._m. I know what you're talking about that though watched them on gravity or an astronaut look the world is not falls in love with gravitas dr gravitas. I am part because it's like fern gully yeah it is exactly what it is made this to astronauts get stuck in space to become heffernan golly to obtain him all right <hes>. What do we have those cards all right. We're gonna play a game <hes> another one here. This game is called character card head guessing game. It's like that game heads up on the phones okay or the diversity day episode of the office sort of like a combo those how it works is on these cards are characters. You won't know who your character is. I don't know him. Rebecca just wrote them. You you want you want you have two minutes to ask yes or no questions to try and guess who you are. Okay all right. Do the you want to go. I i all right so pick one of these and then hold it up to your head i get. I don't know why the cards are like this. <hes> upside down okay yeah. I know who this is rob. Ya know who to see how you can put it down now. Okay <hes> all right so your movie or tv character okay. You have two minutes to guess who you are. Okay just yes or no questions whenever you're ready all right ready. Oh wait take the headphones off them. When telephone who you want okay unplug quick is adonis. Johnson creed michael jordan's character from the good now it's just c._j. Looks like vacuum. We're good. We're good. I was just now. I was just sitting there to see along here. Take this car for me because two minutes yes or no questions discover who you are. Whenever you already information pulled up just okay specifics <hes> already yes all right. Is it a man yes. <hes> is it from the eighties. No is it no no no two thousands. No is it from the seventies no not from the decade thousand area. I love to thousands. I love the arts. Is it from our current decade. Yes yes. Is it a sitcom. No isn't the movie yes. Is it a movie that was nominated for anything. I think actually yes it was an oscar. I mean i'd have to look it up but i would have to do you know major category for a finnish did have a famous quote not in these yes the no i will tell you this because the the award thing is going to be confusing the only the it got nominated for best supporting supporting actor and no other academy awards <hes> is it did sandra bullock play. This character know eliminates a lot of the us from the team <hes> <hes> have you guys seen this character. <hes> is it <hes> from a like a fantasy or sci fi movie. No is it from a drama rama yes yes. Is it shoot another. Do they have a signature <music> outfit of sorts. Yes <hes> <hes> is it adapted from <hes> is the movie adapted from a comic book. Now is adapted from anything in pop pop culture. Yes yes is it but it's not sifi. No how it's based on a true story. No no no. I really wish it was character is it <hes> <hes> kill bill is at houma thurman and kill bill. No is it <hes> but that was a fun way to gauge that you are far away came out in two to three years. Is it considered a strong female character. No no <hes> shoot <hes>. Are they white no. Are they black. Yes okay okay. <hes> who <hes> i'm trying to think here. Is it the lead character in the movie seconds. See are they primarily. Did it become famous because of <hes>. They're an actor. What year did they become famous from acting yeah yeah 'cause i'm stuck on riyan on and you know what you think your woman oh. I thought i said that you never asked if you're a woman. Oh shoot. I thought i did <hes> okay. So it's a man <hes> uh-huh is it will smith and something no is it. <hes> teens his black panther. No no outs data from is it creed. Yes probably just goes to show you. That's that's why a lack of representation makes this game. That was crazy. The most recent things i've been watching has been black panther in creatine creeds great not based on a true story but rack is kind of based on something. It's <hes> yeah wrestling recipes between that cold war on his she was kind of bursley couldn't beat that guy in a fight though right mohammed ali. Isn't that the whole thing from once okay. It's not a new. He's been out for a week two weeks. Three times kept asking the questions. I would make it. They were all borderline. Has it wasn't a week woman yeah all right rob. You're up all right. Let's see what it is okay. I there's just you know who they are. You can put down okay. Take your headphones off. <hes> he is creed read from the office creed bratton from the office. I wonder if he's seen his show. Don't yeah we'll see. I mean he really on the other yeah. We'll see all right two minutes. You're a movie or television character two minutes. Yes no questions you're right. Was he. Two minutes you. He went to twelve but he was just okay. <hes> am i a man. Yes okay <hes> in my superhero. No no all right in my action hero now. Am i a villain now. No am i do. I wear a suit. Yes sometimes okay. <music> <music> journ pilfered okay m. i. Shady ah yes all right in my old. Yes my white. Yes okay from the two thousands. Yes the two thousand zeros mostly yeah okay. Am i television care. Yes yes <hes> man. I'm of in my walter white okay. I bet your character thinks you you are okay in my firm breaking bad now okay good 'cause i would've been in trouble all right <hes> uh <hes> do i shoot people. No i mean we don't see you know sometimes. It's imply that sir okay my tony soprano okay m._r. m._i._a. Lead cared no no. The questions are so funny. <hes> okay <hes>. Let's see in my in my big now. Okay <hes> in my ball. I think you're definitely ball yeah. Okay wispy is from a t._v. Show one minute. You think are involved in t._v. Show my shop people a little bit of here here. Though so don't yes drummer the shooting people not not a drama drama. Okay ari gold now now all right <music> okay larry david now know the character now okay would've told you. We don't give <music>. Let's see <hes> know you think i'm bout. It's implant i- sharp people. I wouldn't get to more hung up on the shady than the shooting shady saul from breaking bad now from breaking bed has ever costs out <hes> and it's not never never sold it <hes> <hes> t._v. t._v. I am i am a <hes> draper now. I worked two minutes. I'm going to tell you show you're on okay and i can go see or do you think that's too specific in either a hint or you can ask one non yes or no question because we're not even sure if he's seen it. You're on the office office. Get at him. Michael scott scott think about everything not a main character i i. It's gonna be all right. I i have i seen i don't know yeah but people and people who heard all right all right. I'm gonna do this last one seattle. Pursuit man may work for the denver mifflin. They got strict dress code all right <hes> because this year ear man no. I know what that is. Oh gotcha okay yeah. I know yeah yes <hes> all right. Tell them okay. Can you hear us now. He can't hear all right. It's alfred rid is less these days. I guess only from that yeah we uh-huh okay. We're good. We're good okay cool. Okay all right is is my name created in any way no okay. Do i have thematically have anything to do with these previous koreans. No am i on t._v. Show movies uh-huh time. Am i a man yes. Am i human yes. Yes my live action. Yes sometimes did i originate for my peter parker no and my superhero no no. Oh no mine superhero stuff yes. What do you mean my primarily known for that comic books yes and my main character in the comic book no my in a marvel world no mind the dc world yes am. I alfred alfred from batmans. Yeah he go which is last name molina. My alfred melina apparently well. That's a good last name for another and i've been seeing these billboards for pennyworth around. Is that alfred. Oh is it. I think it is. I read billboard. Yeah it makes sense. Well that would make say in parentheses. It said michael caine yeah. Oh dark knight trilogy. I didn't know what to do because alfred does existing cartoons is all right episodes of batman where he is. We put pseudo. You know what i'm saying like. I know he puts a suit on something. Yeah imagine the intimate series. It's adam westbound old alfred out within the car one time part yeah i mean he alfred really does it. All use <hes> like the aunt may of moral wow just killing it all right man that was good. I know screen green. I feel very easy once. I knew i wasn't also korean so mad. I was creed from that. Was that was unfair. That was a tough one all right. We're we're going to wrap it up with. A guests movie caused describing okay. We're never haven't heard movie some played all the way through <hes>. If you think you know raise your hand talking fast play remember. They're talking fast okay. He's talking so fast. I can't understand him. They're both talking fast. That's a fine hat. There's a dune buggy race in sand everywhere. The narrator raider even talks fast. They're both in flower shirts and driving through the desert narrow. Everything feels like a desert her. He doesn't know how long it's been weird. Colors crazy angles tons bazaar quick shots. He's in a bath. She only paints one person. The color is very particular so weird. He's got that long cigarette holder big glasses. <hes> mhm does all right. I think you guys both got around the same time here. Who wants to give it a guess. So should we do the same time c._j. Thank god i what we can do it. Three to two one wild and loathing only one of you is right is rob vegas. They did not only. Did you say different things. He bailed on you saying at the same time and you just said wild walk walk. Did you think maybe it was while i'd say movie moving. I've seen movie fast yeah. I was watching the video video where he raps about about wild wild west desperate brand. We're friday. No you don't want member told meanwhile c._j. Doing the theme to fear oh. Thanks for being here thanksgiving. Thanks for having never seen thelma and louise <hes> <hes> let everyone know where to find you both of which he got on if you wanna do that sort of stuff <hes> yeah twitter and we got me and rod have a show now. We have a show together is the eagle rock stand up. Show at kuzina. Filipina is called motherland. Not exclusively filipino comics very funny comex exclusively talknet saying that filipino counts aren't funny too late. We just cut the bs. When does this come out. This will be out in eight days. Okay so my album just came out. Yeah good shake. It out is called hazo. Pedia is a digital digital streaming platforms right now. Uh so we have some <hes> vinyl size <hes> download cards available my live show oh so if you want to feel like you holding a vinyl but don't have attorneys second twelve by twelve download car. That's that's economical. Unrest cycled plastic over your dad's old albums the brothers not a circle is a square is definitely take. The art is really cool. Art is only right and then <hes>. I mean y you get novelties. Anyways also wednesday's i._f._c. wide sherman showcase. I wrote on that. I'm also in some sketches is so check that out great all right. Thanks guys <hes> if you're listening <hes> and you're in denver. I'm going to be in denver here. In september for the high plains comedy festival and go find us on instagram and twitter and vote in the shame bracket. We're in the quarters which means we're only still a little ways from the end but god it will all that bracket thing will end eventually. Go vote in the shame bracket. <hes> instagram and twitter never seen anything stirling's a podcast network.

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15 Minutes of Maim  Episode 3 Siren

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15 Minutes of Maim Episode 3 Siren

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT. visit www dot podcasting, troy. Before information. Hi My name's Stephanie I'm a horror writer and podcast from the tree. I challenge myself to the. Or Challenge, which means I have to watch every movie from beginning. To the end, regardless of of how good or bad it, it looks and I'm sharing that experience with you. Welcome to fifteen minutes of Ma'am I. Watch it so you don't have to. Welcome back creeps and creep bats. This is Stephanie and this is fifteen minutes of mame where I watch crappy. NETFLIX's horror movies, so you don't have to. We have four new titles this week and One of it was actually pretty good, so. We'll get. We'll get to that so. A lot of us are stuck inside right now. especially here in Michigan's really really hot so. Going our doors seems kind of like the most terrible thing. The floors hot lava. Don't go out there. Some movies that I'm reviewing few so that you can find something cool to watch We're going to start off with the recall, which is a twenty seventeen film that stars Wesley Snipes Rj, Midi and Jedidiah goodacre. the tagline is when five friends vacation at a remote Lake House expect nothing less than a good time. Unaware that planet Earth is under an alien invasion and mass abduction. Okay, so this movie. It starts off like your typical. A bunch of kids, we're going on vacation so there like there's you know hot girls and guys that are all Horny, and it's like Super Campy, and so they stop at a gas station or a party store or something like they always do, and they run into Wesley Snipes character, and he's like this creeper. WHO's like out in the woods being a creep and you know so. They're kind of like. Stay away from him. They get to the cabin. Weird stuff starts happening and like this alien What one of them gets abducted by from the lake? I do believe it was and. Okay so this movie isn't terrible, but it's really not this really middle of the road. Wesley Snipes did a great job he's he's in it for like that minute at at the store. And then he's like out of it for about like a decent amount of time, and then he comes back in because obviously, he helps the teenagers because he knows all about the Elliott abductions of course so. He does a good job I like him as an actor. I mean it was an okay movie. It wasn't scary. The alien special effects for. I mean it was just kind of boring if I'm afraid of alien, so if an alien abduction Newbie doesn't scare me. then. You know can't be that good, so I'm gonNA give this one to five shrieks and. It's worth it if you like Wesley Snipes, and you're just kinda looking for something. campy and silly to Kinda run in the background, but it's not something you should definitely seek out. To waste time on in my opinion. At next F we, but is he one is? He dressed as blade at any point in time, and to does he ever say always bet on black? Nobody's he's. He's dressed in black so. But. He's not dressed like blade and he doesn't know he doesn't say that slash. It's you know it is what it is right? It is what it is. It wasn't like the worst thing I've seen. We'll put it that way. Next we'RE GONNA. move onto the super, which has boy val kilmer in it it also stars Patrick John. Pflueger and Louisa, Krause. It came out in twenty seventeen, so these first couple are more recent movies This is like a horror mystery, so this guy moves into this huge new. York City apartment building with his two daughters. He has like nowhere to stay, so they set him up in like this really creepy room in the basement with his two daughters, which I thought was like I mean he had nowhere to stay, and they gave him a job, which is super cool, but like. He's got two daughters, and they like. Put Him in this creep asshole in the wall in the basement, but anyway so there's other supers that work there and val. Kilmer character is one of them, and he comes across as being super creepy like right away and You know he does a good job of acting. which we all know that Bill Kilmer is amazing and I. Kind of disappeared. I know I don't know if he used to have health issues or what's going on with him, but I've always always loved him, and so it was kind of cool to see him. In this movie there is like a significant twist and. Most people that are into this kind of movie will probably be able to figure it out. I don't want to give it away because this will be was actually pretty good, and it's worth watching so all these weird things start happening inside at this High Rise building in one of the daughters seems to have some kind of power, or like. She's like tapped into something. That's inside the building. pretty creepy, little creepy so I'm GONNA. Give this one. Three out of five shrieks and I would say watch it. It's not a pass I enjoyed it it. It just wasn't. It didn't wow, wow me, but it was definitely worth a watch, so didn't WANNA give it four wasn't quite there, but. Three and a half we'll go three and a half if you like, that's their. That's a that's a good number, right? I'll right and the next go onto. Forgotten or the forgotten, which is also a movie. That was like that was the two thousand four movie. ABOUT ALIENS WITH Julianne Moore, but this is a different one. This is not that movie. Just one is not flex obviously. The came out like twenty fourteen. It looks like and so the tagline for this one is after teenager goes to live with his father in abandoned public housing, he hears strange noises and decides to investigate with his new friend. This movie was so boring so boring. So, this kid goes to live in an abandoned. How Boring was it? It was so boring. That I don't know probably five hours to finish movie. I probably paused at like a million times. It was super boring. So this kid goes he. They move into this. Literally abandoned public housing, so they have no running water. They have no electricity in some. How this kid is allowed to live there with his dad, which makes no sense like the mom is awesome where They never fully explained, think basically she just couldn't take care of him anymore. Some things that he goes to live with his dad and dads being really creepy and. So He, the kid is in his room and I'm using air quotes because it's not really it's. It's an abandoned creek like flat in. In. The UK it's very creepy. So. He starts hearing noises and he goes to investigate next door, but he finds this like this chick like feels bad for him because he's sitting in a park at some point, and he's getting picked on by these other kids, and she likes stands up for him, so he kinda like glommed onto her, and they ended up becoming like runs, and she goes into the abandoned flat with him. And, apparently they find out that this flat was the scene of a violent crime and that the girl is tied to it, so there's an interesting story there, but it is so boring. It moved way too slow to get to the point and. It wasn't scary, maybe because it took so long to get to the point. Yeah just I get this one out of five shrieks, just just a snooze fast. More of a sympathy sympathy shrieked. You're giving it. That's what you're. Hitting streak because I you know. I have nothing else to. Butts, Last, but not least we have out of this batch. This was my favorite, and I never would've watched this because it looked so terrible. Even when I explained I'm GonNa read you. The tagline on movies called Siren. It came out in twenty sixteen. This is the tagline a groom should be in his pal. Celebrate with the debauched night out. That ends with the supernatural assault by stripper. Who is now what she appears to be? So hearing that. No, I'm not gonNA, Watch that sums kind of stupid this movie stars Chase Williamson Hannah. FIERMAN and Justin welborn on that. Yeah, so this. I didn't I just assumed this was going to be. You know kind of just terrible, and it starts off a little corny. A clarifying question already. Yes, so is it a stripper with supernatural powers, or is it like a ghost stripper? Well I'M GONNA okay. Because look pretty I mean like. Within the first twenty minutes I feel like. This is not this is not a spoiler. I think that anybody who watches this movie like they give it away pretty quickly like what's going on. So the beginning of the movie, there's a guy in a church that. These people are trying to summon something and like he interrupts it, and he apparently they did some in this thing, and he ends up. It's a little girl, and so he like he's like come with being I'll take care of you. Blah Blah Blah fast forward. These guys are going to. You know this crazy bachelor party weekend, and they end up at this weird, fucking house. With. The Guy at the first strip club that they went to was like you should check out this house if you really to have a good time and. When they first walk in I mean it's definitely a different type of club. Everybody Looks Alternative. The strippers are doing like crazy. They look like performance art like Gothic performance art. They look really cool. And so the proprietor owner of this place is like so I know you. Guys are here for Bachelor. Party. I'm going to take you to this private room and will will get you situated. And So. The groom-to-be ends up going into this room with this he walks in and it's dark, and then there's a window, and then he sees this. This lady with these really like kind of crazy is through the glass and she starts to sing. And like he's feeling all of these crazy things, and it displays all of that obviously on the screen, but what ends up happening is Once, he leaves the room. He realizes she's locked in. And so for some reason he feels like it's a great idea. To. Like, he thinks it's just like. He? She's trapped because of like. It's some kind of A. I don't know. Trafficking Ring or something, so he decides to take her out of this building. Craziness ensues, and so you did here when I said that she sang right so siren. She's definitely a demon. She looks she has humid. She looks human, but she can transform and this thing with a crazy tail, and her face splits open, and these special effects were really good for being. A basically a B. Movie I was pretty impressed by it. I definitely enjoyed. How they moved forward with this movie I. Highly Recommend this. This one gets four out of five shrieks. get through the first twenty minutes a little Corny, but from there it's a lot of fun and like I said the special extra totally worth it, so yeah I'm GonNa go with Siren being the best out of the four movies that I watch for this week's show. Again we reviewed the recall with Wesley Snipes the super with. Val kilmer the forgotten with the people whose names I don't know because they're easily forgotten and siren. which is the winner this week so? Hopefully one of these sounds good to you and you guys can find something to entertain yourself with. Thank you so much for listening to fifteen minutes, and I will be back next week with more reviews.

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140: Batman Forever

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140: Batman Forever

"Pro. What's up? Everybody welcome to this bonus episode kiss from a rose addition of real chronicles brought to you by real talking dot com I'm you'll David I got the fellows with me today. Ryan and Leo. Now and then and then, and then then then Batman. And as you by Ryan's wonderful impersonation of the nineteen sixties Batman in my wonderful. Kiss from a rose shadow today we are honoring Joel Schumacher the late Joel Schumacher by covering. What some consider the most influential comic book movies since One Thousand Nine Hundred Ninety Batman Batman forever. Onto, so we'RE GONNA DO A. Back and we're going to look at the production. Do usual the usual stuff. We have our categories ready to go, so let's get right into it. Do you remember the first time he saw Bam forever? Leo what about you start? Definitely, movie theaters I think. This was the first. I didn't get to see Batman Returns to the movie. Theaters this was my first movie theater. Batman and I was super excited for it. yeah, eight I remember wanting all the toys I remember that Batmobile. It I remember yeah, it was a really Kiki Little Kid. With Fest with this movie. What about you right? I believe it was movie theaters as well and just wanting the toys, and especially that batmobiles as a kid thing is so bad ass. Same thing movie theaters I remember. Batman returns the first. Batman movie I saw in theaters, but This is the first one that I obsess over the toys. I wanted to toys. I remembered the Glass McDonald's cups to at an anti. Collect all of those those are fine and I thought the movie was the best thing ever made. I realize later on. It wasn't the best thing ever made, but it is still very entertaining so let's get right into the production of the film I'm going to nugget dive into deep because I do have a lot of facts regarding it later on, but all I can say is Batman returns was released in Nineteen, ninety-two with financial success with financial success and favorable reviews, but one was disappointed with its box office run having made a hundred and fifty million dollars less than the first film which led to placement of director which. Tim Burton is now gone. Welcome Joel, Schumacher and I WanNa say this I think Joel Schumacher gets a bad rap for these two films because he was pretty much doing what the studio wanted him to do, and just dumb everything down and make it cartoonish. Give us nineteen sixty six Batman all over again. And that's that's kind of like I think. Yeah, he. May you know he's apologized for Batman and Robin, but I don't think I mean it's I. Don't think it's his fault, I don't think he was in a very very tough predicament and I. Don't think he was going to come out there looking. Very well. I think he did the best. He could timber and remained on his executive producer now. What does that mean for those L. Timber had thought you know to what the story is going to be. No Tim Burton was executive producer in name. The Way Christopher Nolan was executive producer in name. For Man of steel. An extra paycheck because I don't think that I I've heard stories about Nolan. Being evolved man of steel I'm like. Looks like a really bad sex or movie. That's all the feels to me. But. Nothing about Batman forever feels like timber and influence on I. Don't know if you guys would disagree Leo any thoughts on that so a little bit. I think that there were certain moments where like Gotham gave me the Burton. Gotham feel to it like did look very gothic at times That's definitely not upon I meant the word Gothic. But but it it gave me it gave me a sense around those rewatch that. There may have been like attempts to keep it Bert, any, so it's not completely off base, but could have been just someone else's responsibility, and not have been timber, and so I know I asked you authorized on like. Does it mean anything like? Did He really do anything? Or maybe it was just a coincidence or just studio, wanting to keep some kind of normalcy keeping some of the same actors like yeah I was very interested to see if there was anything like that. What about you? Yeah I agree with. You guys I can kind of see a little bit in. How the layout of Gotham is, but besides that, and the tone of the moving out at all I will say the only thing that has timber and written all over. Is the psychiatrist Dr at the end of the movie who was actually called Dr Burton Dr Burton, yeah, any has timber in hair. So that's the only not I felt that was that hit timber, and for Batman forever I in terms of the filming filming started in September of Nineteen ninety-four Schumacher. Barbara Link for the production design, claiming that the film needed a force and a good design, and it still has a little bit of the Catholic field, but you can see the production design is completely about ninety nine percent different than the other two movies. It became so fluorescent and so glow in the dark. It's ridiculous. Outside of that, the movie made one hundred million dollar, and it was successful. A boys made three hundred and thirty six million dollars at the box office. So it's not like it was any failure or anything along those lines. Now let's get right into what's age best? And what's age worse I have I have a lot tougher. So they. Age Best. The opening scene were two phases robbing the bank. I think that's a solid opening act. I think it reminds me of. Double seven movies when they start, and they have those side missions have really to open. The films have really have no correlation to the actual narrative. The film I think that what this feels yet to face was involved, but that mission after it ended. That's it. You never really brought it up again. The rest of the movie so I dug that. And compared to Batman returns where we gotTa Floating the Penguin just like floating in the source of Gotham during the credits. I think this is a step up. Let me see. Oh batmans utility bill has aged the best in one, thousand, nine, hundred nine. He could barely hold Vicki Vale in nineteen, Ninety, five. He held like a eighteen thousand pound safe, so that age really well Manila. Folders Age really well out the scene I'm talking about is the Manila folder that. was able to take the acid that created harvey, De and tournament to face, but the Manila folder just took it and did not. Nothing bad nothing. teary-eyed or anything like that? Shout out to Manila folders. Chris Nolan ideas used in the dark knight trilogy that were used in BA BA wherever. Batman giving it up turning it in. Joel! Schumacher got there first. What else Batman falling into a back into the Cave Joel Schumacher got their first. Lot of female empowerment J. Chase Meridian noses she wants she wants Batman as she has no problem. Pushing up on him gotta get gotTA. Give her credit for that. We talked about this on our Batman and Robin episode. The Bat March in here is still very very good. It's it's crazy because I think it's. I'M NOT GONNA say on par but I'd say they're both great like they are both fantastic I thought the score was pretty okay outside of the the theme, but the theme itself was Pretty Great. Almost done here Bruce Wayne's tracking necks still Adrian. Absolutely fantastic! Oh! Bama forever also. Predicted the future of Apple with the Apple Watch it with facetime that Bruce had. We're talking to Alfred. Occur and this age while I really enjoyed the towards the end of the movie. When you have the question mark above the bat signal love that dialect is seen as well all right that's that's what I have. What about you Leo? What's best for you? Same as you, my number one thing is the same here as it was back when we reviewed Batman and Robin, it's March I think it is underrated I i. don't know if Connick as Elf men's, but it's it's still you still understand that you still know it still recognize it as a Batman theme just like the little brother of elephants. the tech that gadgets are pretty freaking awesome. This is one of the Times that they really focused on showing the back cave and all the cool stuff. That's in there. the new batmobile isn't as cool, but it looks you more futuristic. I thought it was a really cool batmobile. I love the seeing where it scales the building. River wanting the toy so I was like it did its job I forgot, but this movie has him wearing the black and gold suit a lot. and I think that aged well, because like it it it. It still paid homage to the original, the original to I like golfing city I think it was gothic. I think there was some little call out to the verse two movies I think the master plan of ridler about wanting about people wanting to be inside TV and wanting to like live virtually like that aged incredibly well. Right like I was like Oh and this is actually closer to truth now that it was back then. Bruce and Alfred relationship is so awesome. All the little subtle Easter eggs for comic book fans like. Costume, that little thing he had in his room, the bobblehead. So the? Started Cajole Leo, the ridler costume was pretty much the first one. Not The one he wore at the end is pretty much a carbon copy to the sixty six hundred Laurie. Yeah and he got it from like that like a the thing he had in his does. That He. Yeah you got it from. There like the seventy five year old Chris O'Donnell trying to call themselves wing, but he mentioned the night wing all comic book fans knew what he meant. I think Val, Kilmer as Bruce. Showing some detective skills, H pretty well I think that's maybe it was a little overlooked in the first. yeah, I think overall it's it's a fun movie. It's a really really fun movie. I had a great time. You're watching it and I definitely agree with you on the cellphone. Watch that. Just told the future in what about you, right? What are you have? I agree with you Dave with the opening with to face I think that was just a really solid opening straight up Michael go is Alfred I think he just Jose, entire series and movies down like two solid. This Jim Carey in general I just love him in this movie. I think one of the best parts of the movie. Like one of the things I even point out with quo. Yearns was good. His was better. Six. and. When they mentioned night wing? That's still it makes me mark out even little bit to this day like 'cause. Donald is at least at the age where he could have been I. They could could just jump right tonight winger that. Donald Crystal Donna was ready for the retirement home by the time. Let alone become night wing. And Kiss from a rose Oh. Yes, of course, so does tastic. Age Worse Gotham city apartments. Why are they so small? Why are they so small wire people paying top dollar top dollar to live in that. Unrealistic `Nigma Tech Manufacturing. We have this `Nigma. Let's let's just do a little timeframe here. You got a pet in this that takes about a year. then. It takes about six eight months of manufacture. This `nigma tech thing. And then you put push to market. In this movie `nigma tech was created in about two days. That that has not Adewale at all Robbins. Age, you gotTa Throw Love to Robin being about seventy five years old by the time he becomes Robin. Another thing, that's age worse. Batman costume in a courtroom. All. Thank you for mentioning that in the days. Why? Why is he sitting there in his costume to Hugo some gum like. No it doesn't work does not work at all. Alfred Knob Alfred, being the worst Butler of all time Alfred not being able to tell the difference between kids, trick or treating and adult men trick or treating. Commissioner, Oh Commissioner Gordon answering the bat signal and his jammies. What the fuck was at maybe maybe he sleeps in the head coach Gotham police station. Maybe he just has a a room down there a punching bag in a psychiatrist's office. What's up with that? Why is the circus on TV? Oh my gosh, yes. I I was wondering and then I didn't notice it the first time I've seen this movie until I watched that recently, unlike wait Gotham, broadcasting the circus. Yup and we live. because. It was for special event. That's why they broadcast I. Don't buy ride because. We like Leo and is especially. We live near Gotham city. Where have the New York the circus every year? It's ever been broadcast on TV. The other part of this is that it's the biggest event in Gotham city, attracting every single multi-billionaire and a high office official. It's got them. City doesn't have many events then. You'd think it'd be an opera, but no, you know seventy five year old. Dick Grayson has become robin so has to be. What else what else do I have here? Edward Niklas, read here. I guess it's a choice. I didn't really dig the red hair or was it. Orange was a red or orange. You aren't just orangish. I didn't like it. I think you could stay with. The brown hair just stayed that like that. what else is? A neon light bills. Why. Why do these two faces henchmen have neon lights on their guns? The scene where Robin takes the. Batmobile It looks like he's fighting the cast of starlight express. Next up. The bat smile I saved the worst raw because there's no reason that he should. Ever ever ever ever ever whether it's Adam West whether it's animated whether it's fucking bad flick back in. Batman doesn't smile and that really. Makes me and yeah. That's what I have. What about you Leo? A number one is the shot of the bat suit that age badly the creepy chase meridian. Video that bruce has of chase just like fixing her hair. Well I don't know where that comes from. That is rub and tug video. I get cocaine. Was it was is a beautiful woman. Primate Bruce has a video wind flowing through her hair. For no reason Alfred is like what is, but where's the Vicki? Vale Video. Wayne. That's creepy I. Think Takes Meridian as a character that age well, either so much hope potent vision is to get laid like like she's a professional psychiatrists, and all she cares about is beating Batman so she can get laid. It's not doing it for her anymore. That's why I didn't think the Okay. How how old is Robin? That's that's I'm GonNa read this as I could tell. Because I got more and more, I got more upset as I. Like I, put how old is Robin is in capital letters the next line I have is no one does laundry like that. Laundry that like. He's like exercising and doing laundry. Yet using his martial arts. Martial arts like to to to squeeze the water out of the mop I'm like no one does laundry like that and the last one. Why do the bat gadgets reveal themselves? Alert Yes Robert Debts into the case. The alarm goes off about intruder alert, and for some reason that that keeps the false status is let me show everything we everything we have. I'm surprised I will say this. I'm surprised. You guys like the Batmobile so much I will say like it. Okay I I guess because continuity had even at like when I was like eight years old. I wanted to see how you put that batmobile back together, because remember a Batman returns. Yes, to when he's running when he's driving away from the cops, and he splits it in half, and he cuts through the through. The side pieces of the batmobile break apart any cuts through that middle I wanted to see how the batmobile looked after that, but no, we. Bring you fucking Batmobile to sell toys. Yeah I think I. Think what the Batmobile with merely it was. It was definitely one of those things where I missed the original like I missed the eighty nine batmobile a lot but like. Nostalgia wise like this wasn't terrible. Possibly gave it more than I. Really should've and now round the rewatch like wasn't that bad? It was cool it was. Fun I right, what are you go? Rage. Worse I have close up on the bat junk. Some of the graphics of Gotham City were just horrible. 'cause. We've seen better movies that came before so there's no reason that it showed as it did. Chris Donald, needing an adult that was. Necessary. Why is he award? The fireproof back, which is never heard overseen of again. And Laundry Karate yes. Not so so I assume when I you know. If I ever go by you guys is houses. There won't be any laundry karate. We can't do it together like that. Are. Sucks all right, so let's let's move onto the trophy room. So this movie did get nominated for an Oscar. I was Badmouth. Forever was nominated for Best Cinematography. So I was surprised when I was doing my research for the Senate was nominated for cinematography. I mean it's it's for what it's trying to accomplish is a nice looking film, but I was surprised at the academy would actually go for something like that so A loss to. fucking trash braveheart. I will give it the Batman forever. It was also nominated for sound effects editing. And also lost that. It, and what else and sound and best sound, so it was nominated for three Oscars a hold me thrill me, kiss me, kill me by. Youtube was nominated for the Golden Gopher best original song, but lost a colors of the wind. But was also nominated for worse original song at the Golden Raspberries, which dad doesn't make any sense at the Saturn awards, the film was nominated for best fantasy film lost. A seven special effects lost jumanji and costume design loss of twelve monkeys, Elliot Goldenthal was given a grammy nomination for for the score. The film Batman Forever also received six nomination at the nineteen ninety-six MTV. Movie Awards for four of which were divided between two categories, carry and Lee Jones for best villain and seal's kiss from a rose and Youtube hold me in best song from a movie. However, he just one in one category when it won best song for kiss from a rose. So it did some some more damage than I ever would have predicted in terms of categories. Let's get to that Guy Award. I went with. It's hard not to go with the same guys. If we in for Batman and Robin, so it's between Michael Michael Go and angle. You kind of like you watch you see them like. I actually was recently watching an episode of murder. She wrote Matlock. Matlock. And Pat Angle was the defendant that matlock was defending in that episode immediately. Is I saw him I'm like Oh look. It's Commissioner Gordon so I. Go with one of those two but Pat Hengel specifically because. Michael was also in sleepy hollow, so he did some other stuff as well What about you Leo? That he mazer as my that Guy She played spice. From Debbie means Vermont's rush exactly exactly I remember when I saw entourage afterwards. I'm like we look so familiar. I'm like. Isn't that to face his girlfriend? and obviously the other side. Is Played by Drew Barrymore? But but Debbie mazars the only one I really didn't. Make a name for herself, other than entourage and. Ever. What about you right? I went with Kris Lindahl. That's yeah. You're not rolling their Daedalus six of the film award. Jim. Carey Yeah Yeah I mean I think this is the first time we've ever done this that I have Jim Carey and tha that I have the same person to Gorey's except I put Michael go on this one for six man interesting. I think he has less to do here. Though that in Batman and Robin, but he still I. Mean Michael Goes Great. But his butlering skills are not but he. He does brief. What about you, right? Who'd you go with you and Chris? O'Donnell right? For Dell Scher six minute. Six Man I went with a Jim, Carey, O. Jim Carey okay. Becky icebox award. Who is the MVP of the movie? I Would Jim Carey here carry yeah. I Jim Carey is every bid seat. I were we talked about? I think a week or two ago. We spoke about how we're GONNA. See A ridler like we've never seen before with Matt. Reeves his movie and we're so excited for that. But everything they wanted from Jim Carey Jim Carey gave them in terms of that's what that's. The Jim Carrey they wanted they didn't want anyone like diabolical or anything. They wanted an over the top chewing the scenery. Truman Show Ace Ventura Jim Carey and I think they. He knocked it out of the park. Definitely agree I think there was a a one point i. read an article that like it once. I heard it like an re read it. kind of makes sense that as part of the original Batman movies like everybody was. They kept trying to recreate Jack Nicholson's. So even Jim Carey as ridler. It's Jim Carey. As the joker being ridler like the top making quickly like quick jokes like overacting to face. Like yes, half of it is supposed to be a psychopath. Tommy Lee Jones. As joker asked who face. Like. It's not it's not the actors for either like it's not. It's not that it's not comics facific. That's the way these characters were written I think. To face. I think Tommy. Lee Jones is trying a little bit too hard adding. He was trying to keep up with carrot. Yeah, it's in there to two different performances I think. Once that opening scene. At the beginning at the. What the bank. I don't think he ever comes down from like eleven. Doesn't he? Stays at like Pacino level. He never like it's funny because they're so there has to be such a sense of duality between harvey to face, and there is little duality between harvey did into phase. It is entire movie as a matter of fact, I'm surprised. None of us put it in our age worse when he's in. Wayne Manor, and he's keeps flipping the coin over and over and over again to for him to get the scratch. Side to, shoot, Bruce. In reality to face only ever flips, and that's it whatever the coin chooses. That's the choice, but in the movie he just keeps going and going and going and going and I'm like. Oh, that's counterproductive to Harvey. Dent phases, so I didn't really I didn't really like that too much. Yeah, when you compare it to the Aaron to face in in the. Dark Knight like you've got a sense of like Oh okay, so maybe you don't need an over actor as one side of it, you just you just need a ghost. It's gotta be a dualistic approach to it. and the coin flip was the same thing you're not. You see someone that listens to the coin and lives by the coin speaking of coins I don't know I forgot to add is to to age my age worse Batman with a roll of quarters in his pocket. At the was worse, a roller, coordinating pocket or credit card. Damn? That's a tough question man. The talk about getting drive to in the very beginning, so I say the of quarters a little bit more. Canes. It's like it's like Alpha. He tells effort. I need change. So it's funny because with me, what occurred to me I'm like also when Batman gets ready to go to war with a particular villain. He looks at his cave. He's let me get like my ridler specific stuff today. Let me get my to face Pacific today. Oh, going against to face I need to get coins. I don't know and another thing. How did to face? Get down there at the end of the movie for? If you notice like you have chased Meridian fall down, and then you have rubbing fall down in Batmans able to see them both, and then all the sudden faces, just hanging down there. How did he get down there? and. Why did he go down there? That's another question. He's like I would have fought to live another day. I would've fought live another day our live to fight another day. Yeah, right so that is we have Jim Carey next up is peaks and valleys Who is your Peak Leo? I went val Kilmer and I know that. Came head. It was like in between months of this and heat, which worse he I think I think he by a couple of months came first, but like there's there's no question that come career was never at this height ever again. No, yeah, that's kind of the. Day I? Want Val Kilmer for the same reasons I. You said He. I think ninety five after this he had the saint. And I think that to after that kind of started falling off, I mean he still was acting but I don't think he ever peaked again with like Batman or anything along those lines. What about you Ryan? Who Do you have now I? Have the same as you guys vacuum for the reasons, US. Valley's. My rules always the same. An Oscar you are, you've fucking way more than peaked. Valued your way to be an amazing career Nicole Kidman. She is incredible. I love her work. She is fantastic So yeah, she's my valley here. I mean you guys have anyone different? I have her, and I have Tommy Lee Jones out yet. Yeah, that's a good doesn't under solid one. What about you? Leo, they manigault Kidman like the same they. Literally. Your rule is perfect. You wouldn't off. You've probably that's yet. This is this is a low point, so it's so easy to now when we do these because I'm like Oh, who won the Oscar? If anyone, and then you know we're done? Next week when we do back to the future now that are actually be a little bit more difficult. So all right, so that brings us to some fun facts so for the twenty fifth anniversary of the film. I've compiled twenty five fun facts about Batman forever. A number one Jim Carrey's original idea was to shave question mark into his scalp. Fortunately! It had to be scratched because he was doing. Court finalizes divorce. I wonder if that would have been in ensue in that courtroom and. I'm just making sure everything's. Okay. Hurry up we have to fill. And keep away the Manila folders. Number two according to Jim Carey he did not get along with Tommy Lee Jones on the set. Who told them that he hated him and his films. This one. That is both Tommy Lee. Jones to say ever, doesn't it make sense so because they see my solitaire. Analyses the. You can tell like Tommy Lee Jones is all business Jim. Carey likes to have a good time. Number three. While Tim. In was slated to direct the film Mickey Dole Anna's was considered to play the riddler. After Burton drop Robin Williams was offered the role by Warner Brothers refused due to be embitter about be used as bait to lure Jack Nicholson to commit to the joker in nineteen eighty nine. Would have been interesting to see Robin Williams as the riddler. I Love Robin. Williams really glad talk with Jim Carrey. I mean for the movie that they were trying to do i. think the right choices made. Number Four Val kilmer in Joel Schumacher clash during filming Schumacher described Kilmer's childish and impossible actor, according to Schumacher. Kilmer refuse to talk to him for two weeks. We didn't have a Lotta problems with a lot of directors. Yeah, he's actually one of the only male actors that did not get away with being drama like drama king on. On set he actually I think that's one of the reasons. He kind of lost the top tier fame, because he just be complicated with a lot of a lot of sets so absolutely yeah, heard the same thing, and I know what it coincided with his weight, gain and alcohol abuse to like it. It was a messy downfall for him. Unfortunately like I met him a few years ago and he talk. They. Had I, think he had throat cancer and add to surgery, so he doesn't really speak anymore. That's why if you see him in jail Alibaba reboot his. He has a fun cameo. Be Doesn't speak. Dutch yeah. Check this one number five before deciding night to don the Cape and Cowl for third time Michael Key and met with Joel Schumacher and declined to join the project after deciding that he did not like the direction in which Schumacher was looking to take the franchise in the brief time timber, and was still considering doing a third Batman film ridler was only was the only way he plan on using the idea of using to face did not come up until Schumacher joined the project. Row Number six of jetties here for Charlotte Jenny Leonardo. DiCaprio turned down the role of Dick. Grayson Robin because he didn't like Joel Schumacher's direction similar to Michael Key in turn down. Returning as Batman and Bruce Wayne now Leonardo. Dicaprio was only I think in one, thousand, nine, hundred, five, probably eighteen ninety. Would fit so much better wouldn't have. Else she. Would have stayed of cash. We would have gotten Keaton as Batman with the Cameo with Robin Young. possibly. I mean. That's. Sick so sick. I love that. I mean the Caprio was very not just proced- films at that time, so it could have been a very likely situation if it worked out box office. Wise that we've of regarding not just a Batman and Robin Movie, maybe like a nightmare movie because at that time Leo. Leo. Just stuck to prestige after. Catch me if you can. So for about like a seven year gap there, he was probably doing a lot of like. Different things like he did the man in the iron mask to be beecher and all that stuff, so it would have been realistic thing that he could have stuck around. Cool number seven Phil marks the first appearance of Arkham asylum in a live action Batman Film. had a feeling I was going to ask you about that, too. Because I'm like. This is the first time I think of. You've seen it on screen. So I also we also, I mentioned before that. Schumacher's script was very light. However Schumacher originally wanted to make a much darker more serious film that would more fully explore Bruce Wayne's growing fear they his crusade to be Batman had done more harm than good and that Bruce's beginning to suffer from. Burn out, but. Based on what happened. Batman Returns Warner said. We're not doing that. You'RE GONNA. Make a lighter tone movie. Number nine. This is the first live action appearance of Harvey, Dent to face in disfigured form. He was actually supposed to appear as a villain in the television show the sixty six show reimagined as a news anchor who was disfigured when a television set exploded in his face, but the character didn't appear in the series. Fun Fact. Do you know who expressed interest in playing? Harvey Dent in the sixty six series any guesses. William Shatner no, and he guesses on your end. Leo now I nothing Clint Eastwood. WHOA. So. That would have been very interesting. Early drafts of Batman returns featured, Harvey Dent in the film with Billy Dee Williams reprising his role from Batman and his transformation. It's to face was set to happen during the finale of Batman returns cat, woman kisses him when holding onto the penguins generator, several elements of dental in these early drafts. Were Incorporated to the character Max Schreck, so we would have gotten billy dee. Here in Batman forever. If timber would have stayed, and if the movie could have remained dark to. This. This could have been one of the greatest trilogies of all time yeah man. I when I was doing the research for these facts I'm like I was kind of blown away by some of this stuff, because while we enjoy Bama forever, it's never been a movie that I've actually sat down and researched on like when I was doing this research I'm like fuck. Did we lose out on a great fuck and movie? To make you like the movie, a little less knowing all these facts. It made me Hate Warner. Brothers it made me realize their warner brothers. That Batman movies were good in spite of Warner Brothers because. The game of tag lines earlier. Yeah, in an earlier episode I feel like BC Warner Brothers. tagline should be ruining DC movie. It's it's crazy. It makes me wonder and a lot of Kudos. Todd Phillips I. Don't Know How the fuck you got that joker movie out. I really don't like hearing all the the horror stories from warners I. Don't understand how he was able to get that out I mean. It's. A billion dollar box office hit Oscar winner I mean it. It worked out well, but just crazy. Bat Nipples Guys Bat nipples number ten. Joel Schumacher's decision to put bat nipples and enlarge coat cod pieces on the bat costumes as well as an earring on Robin caused tons of controversy. It even bothered Batman Co Creator Bob Kane. Schumacher said he wanted the costumes to have an atomic anatomic look while the earring was supposed to make robin more hip, he also claimed that the basis for the Batman and Robin suits came from statues of of Ancient Greece. They should have been more. The rebels going break his hip more than look yes. Man It it. Yeah that that wasn't one of Joe's best ideas. Number Eleven Renae Russa was originally cast Dr Chase Meridian when Michael Keane was still attached to the project as Batman however as soon as Michael in dropped out and replaced by Val, kilmer Russo was deemed too old to play his love interest, despite being just shy of six years Balch, Humus Val kilmer senior year, which led to Nicole Kidman wholesome. You played the role and his seven and a half years younger than kilmer. Are there tools? Number twelve. First Appearance Of rob in the Warner Brothers series of Batman films he was featured in early drafts of Batman. Batman returns but several rewrites of the script led to the inclusion to be dropped because burn fell. Robbins presents presents didn't fit the dark tone of those films. What did you think of that? You think Robin wouldn't work in that type of universe. The burr inverse I mean insured. You think Robin is too bright of character. Done. I think he could've done it well. I think he go done. Robin very well could almost darker looking at the boy wonder, 'cause you know people especially nowadays always say like all these avenues. Robin as a human shield. From that aspect because taking it from that angle. Yeah, I think so too Leo thoughts. I feel like that. I think already had so much on his plate with making Batman himself darker than the Adam West Batman. Why throw another character into the play? Perfect the Batman Darkness and then maybe introduce Robin later I mean he could have done okay, but that point I think is like it would have been too much on his plate already from what he was trying to accomplish money. You see that because I. Don't think Tim Bery never meet. Batman movies have focused on. Batman 'cause he loves focusing on the village. because. Honestly I think I love that many nine, but I think that movies more by jokers origin than anything. We have I think you got top billing like it is a Jack Nicholson movie. Your. Shots Val kilmer because he was able to grab that top billing for this. Nobody indignant ability returns Ari. This would have been miserable. Mark Walmer was considered for the role of Robin. Usually same age or older and Think he was older than Chris. O'Donnell Donald. My Lord why? This prophecy Joel Schumacher here unlike timber in Schumacher was actually a Batman Fan. He originally wanted to do a prequel based on Frank Miller's Batman year one. So at least Joel was a fan number fifteen at around forty two minutes in the movie. When Dick says, he wants to go back to the circus. Bruce Replies. The circus must be now must be now halfway to metropolis. The home city of Superman. Which is I? Believe our first. DC Crossover Line. In, fucking add up to anything but. It was her first crossover line. Elizabeth Sanders who plays gossip. Gertie was married to Bob Kane, Creator Batman co-creator Batman, who was also had a cameo in the film. Next up William Baldwin who was also in Gossip Girl Leo. Was reported to be considered for the role of Batman. Other names that were considered for the role of Batman outside of before kilmer took the role on key and left were row fines. Ethan Hawke. Alec Baldwin Kurt Russell Daniel Day fucking Lewis. Tom Hanks and Johnny Depp were all considered for the role of Batman for Batman forever all. There's only one name that should have gotten that outside of. fucking Daniel day-lewis. I would love to have seen him he. Whatever happened to BDO PSYCHE? If he did method acting as Batman, he would've turned himself into a bat I. was. There's like he had to. There's no. Like I would. Love to see aunts, and honestly like all jokes, aside I would've rule of to CDL. Replace if key and didn't WanNa do it DDR replace Qian and timber indirect because she would have been the darkest movie like ever. fucking crazy. Next, this is actually the first movie to refer to Batman as the Dark Knight. Yeah. Now, we're talking about Robin being fifty seven years old. There is a long list of. Folks that were almost cast as. Robin outside of Mark, Wahlberg Michael Goal. Police say go Michael so we talked about Mark Morgan Leo before, but also in contention were Matt Damon. Jude Law. You McGregor Corey Haim Corey Feldman. Toby, Stevens and Scott speedmen work all considered for the role Robin. and honestly the only ones that were of age. You're probably core Heyman. Corey, Feldman. Leo! That's about it 'cause I. Don't know how old toby was at the time. 'cause toby was actually no. I think he could have been okay. 'cause toby was in when he plays Spiderman. He was in his mid twenties right Oh. Yeah, you're right. Look, young, yeah, yeah, so I think he probably could have been okay. All Right? This is just timber, silliness, timber, and director of the first two films would've called the film Batman continues. Before. He decided on just having ridler as the main villain. The original plan for the Batman continues was have three villains. The scarecrow played by Brad Door, if also also known for playing Chucky. Robin Williams as Ridler and Billy, D. S. to face one spurt and left production. Everything changed, and you know we got what we got. Twenty one, the first part of the film was edited extensively to begin with an action sequence. The sequence spoke about what the bank earlier in the on the podcast. The DVD features original opening scene that includes to face escape from Arkham asylum, this is to lead to Bruce Wayne's visitors, business office and the best signal he saw there was to mental lead him to the office in order to suit up from the fight at the bank. This was. was followed by Niklas experimental. stictly Batman meeting with chase at the bat signal was actually much later in the film just before the scene where the batmobiles scales the side of the building they use talked about before chase references to faces, coin at the bank was originally a reference to the circus, and this original sequence of the first part of the film is featured in the Comic Book Adaptation of the film now no clue why they changed it. Seemed like you're still getting that action sequence so I don't understand why they decided to change it. Twenty two. We talked about the toys we talked about the glasses at McDonalds. McDonalds actually pulled out of Batman returns after the movie's release, Dude, dark, subject matter and the controversy surrounding the film even though was a massive hit. Pretty much like we don't need the fucking penguin toy. We that duck. We can't do nothing with that. One St once a warner brothers that they will not participate and across marketing campaigns for Warner Brothers on par three. If Burton was actually still the director. So that's actually another reason that Burton left does because warners. All the marketing that we spoke about Batman any I would have gone. If, it wasn't for the change in director so pretty much warrener's fired Burton for McDonald's. At one hundred, twenty, two more go here at one hundred and twenty minutes is actually the shortest live Action Batman movie in the series I I think Batman Sixty six which is based on the sixty six Batman series was one hundred and five minutes, but the film was distributed by Twentieth Century Fox. So all the movies from Warner Brothers. It'd be the the shortest one now. This is funny because of a movie that takes place thirteen years later. Jon Favreau is uncreditworthy as one of the employees on a wing enterprise. Not because I think, he stole some stuff for Ironman. This scene were Bruce in his office and he like has that slide takes him back to to the back eve, and he's talking to Alfred. A screen that essentially Tony. Talking to Jarvis it is, it is, it is yeah, so you know Ben. Forever helped EMC you two. and. Number Twenty five, the ending of the movie was originally longer after Kissing Bruce, goodbye arkham asylum chase ass, Alfred, if it will, and for Bruce's Batman and Alfred tells chase that it will never end for Bruce. So the twenty five facts legacy of the movie. I mean twenty five years later. I think this is one of those movies that. For the time. I think it's still holds up as an entertaining movie. I used to be a lot hard on it. I won't lie I used to think that. You Know Bama. Robin is such a guilty pleasure, but you know Obama forever has his partnered Boring Mike. I'm more entertaining by Batman and Robin Stupid Awfulness of it and mister freeze. But I think this is. It's entertaining. Fun Movie and I understand. Why made as much money as it did? Leo Thoughts Yeah. I think you think that's pretty eloquently. Put right there. I'd take it still entertaining still popcorn movie like it's still. There's still a lot of pros to it like I mentioned earlier like Ridler is so quotable like everything Jim. Carey says on this everything on his script is so quotable, and yeah I think that I may not be as big a fan of Raw Obama provinces. You are, but I think this was. This felt like a good transition movie. Before we got to Batman and Robin Thicke this was a little bit of darkness, a little more cheese, and then we got the Bene-, Robin, which was all cheese Oh. Yes, so much cheese! Ryan thoughts worst movie that I've seen a hundred times. No I do enjoy the movie so much I get some my pleasure les- Every time. I watch it. I forget how much I enjoy. Entertaining his all hell, Yeah, and I mean it. It's one of those movies that. I think you can sit back at some popcorn. Watch it at home of Friends Watch at home of family? It could be background noise. It's kind of. Has a lot of purposes. It's not one of the movies you have to sit there and pay attention to the plot, because it's very selfish, very self aware of what it is, that's so. And now it's not even cannon anymore, because with the news reported on our previous episode with key in possibly joining the C.. E You as you know Bruce Wayne Batman I. And warners have officially said that Batman Forever, and Batman and Robin or not part of the Kennan anymore. If you look at it. A nice little I mean to pack that you have. If you want to just watch some cheese, awful cheese and just like. Sit there and be entertained. I think you have these two to sit there? Because now these are two self contained stories, and I always honest. Honestly I've always felt that's what these two movies were. I never really connected them to the Burton versus anyway. To be completely honest with you so I think this fits the mold of what these two movies are so. So yeah, that wraps this special bonus episode up next week we will be back as we look at the thirty fifth anniversary of back to the future, the thirtieth anniversary of back to the future part three, and we're still going to talk about all the great things about taxes future part two, and how the air magma the greatest sneaker of all time. Onto them see at the movies.

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What Nobody Wants to Hear about Content Marketing

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What Nobody Wants to Hear about Content Marketing

"Rainmaker? FM? This podcast is brought to you by copy blogger dot com. Words that work build your online thority with powerfully effective content marketing, get superior content marketing education, so you can build a remarkable online presence. Head offered a copy blogger dot com to learn more that's copy blogger dot com. Hey there. It is excellent to see again. Welcome back to copy blogger FM, the content marketing podcast copy. Copy wonder FM is about emerging content marketing trends, interesting disasters and enduring best practices along with the occasional. My name is Sonia Simone, and I am a co founder and the chief on tent officer for Cuffy blogger media. He can get additional writing as well as a complete archived podcast by pointing your browser to remarkable communication dot com. And I am here today with our beloved one time colleague still colleagues still beloved Robert, Bruce who a couple years back, I guess at this point transitioned out of working with us, everyday cubby blogger and over to being the VP of marketing for rainmaker digital services, which is our sister company. So Robert is just a pleasure to talk with you again. I agree. So it's been way too long. And thanks for thanks for having me on. You know, I am. I was wondering number one if you're gonna say old friend or colleague. Get offense fast. I also want to know what? Interesting disasters are all about like that. I need to do more interesting disasters. Yeah. Just total. You know the fail. Fill army of marketing. We get into that. All right. What would we'll talk a little bit in in a way about that today because we're going to talk about we're gonna talk about something that am I experiencing your experience. No people like hearing or want to hear about content marketing about marketing in general and the way that works and two thousand nineteen going forward. You wanna do wanna just give your quick response to that? And that will really dig into it throw in the context of like, you said what I've been doing kinda shifted about a year and a half ago. Maybe a little more time flies while and really directly working with clients for the first time in a long time for me going from kind of teaching hundred percent producing content mode. Everything we were doing a copy blogger the podcast all of that to out working directly with clients and the actual needs in the clients have out there in the on the streets. So to speak and a lot of great insights from that. And there's you know, I won't be naming names or anything here, of course, in terms of specific relationships or anything like that. But both in our work that we do over at remote maker digital services. And then just in general kind of looking at the industry as a whole talking to other people both freelance agency over the last bit of time one of the big things that I've seen and is very interesting. I have experienced this myself. And I think we all have at one point or another is, hey, what's okay? I get it. You guys been talking about this stuff for years understand marketing, generally? That's great. It's all great. But what's the gimme? The gimme the magic bullet. The gimme the I want the one thing that's going to take me to where I want to go, and whether that's rarely ever articulated out loud like that, you know, it's not. It's not like people ask for it. But we all want it and the kind of stark realization that it doesn't exist can be jarring. But I wanted to if you're willing to take I wanna get your perspective on this to this idea that hey, there is no magic bullet. There is no one thing that's going to save you. And in fact, there's a lot of fallacies, maybe even interesting disasters. Like you said. Along the way of getting your business from the place. You are to the place. You wanna be through marketing digital marketing content marketing in all the things that we talk about. One of the one of the issues that comes up almost immediately with this is for all of us to that. We we don't only want it we expect it, and that is from the content that copy blogger producers to what clients expect from kind of agency in that sense. And I guess I'm here to say, and we can stop the podcast after this magic bullet of marketing doesn't exist. Thank you. Good. Bye. Bye. Let's say we're just gonna leave you. We're not gonna have. No, I didn't. I do. I hear it all the time when I'm teaching hear it all the time when I speak at conferences when I speak with clients, you know, like I'll have a conversation with with a client or prospective client. And they've all just come back from a conference, obviously, timing traffic and conversion conference just wrapped up which is an excellent conference is a very fine conference. But everybody comes home and his like Kenya. Do X that you knew. This thing that I heard a forty minute presentation about and it's not that. There's something wrong with the presentation or or any of it. But the expectation again is you know, I see people chase this tactic to that tactic. And one week. It scary v you know, micro content and the next week. It's whatever it is almost every tactic as long as it's not gross. You know are not dishonest virtually every tactic has a as a role to play. But if you just chase tactics around I mean, I've just seen people waste so much time in so much money. Yeah. That's really interesting. I don't think I've thought about it in in that context of more than just kind of an existential. Dread of you know, that that the magic bullet the silver bullets not out there. But specifically like you just said that the kind of merry go round of the hot new thing. Whatever that is the goes in cycles that. Yeah, conferences, or just all of a sudden every. Blog post. You see every podcast listened to his about XYZ tactic for three months. And then the funniest part about that in the fad, really the sad part. Because it's so it can be such a waste of time and money is three months later. Nobody's talking about it. And it's like, wait a minute. This thing was supposed to save all of western civilization and the businesses within it you were saying a couple months ago. And now you're onto something completely new, and it it's a dangerous thing for marketers as well. Because you don't want to be that person that is constantly touting. Hey, I mean, that's not to say, you know, this, of course, that that strategy tactics are useful into employed, and sometimes new things come up that are worth trying out and sometimes are very profitable. But you don't wanna be this person on this Mary around constantly, slinging, you know, the new thing that that it basically there's principles. There's there's boring bottom line principles. That we know and that many people know that work, but we don't want to do them. Right. And that's what it comes down to is the basics the fundamentals we're gonna get into specifics little bit later, but the basics fundamentals of marketing as it applies to digital marketing marketing now, but as it applies to to what we want to accomplish. Let's let's get a little bit. Let's get a little bit into that. You know, you do a lot of strategy work for clients over it remake of digital services. You're talking glance probably every day about you know, what should my strategy? Look like, can you talk about some of the elements chew consider or you know, how people people understand for their own sites for their own businesses. Yeah. And this is where it's it can be a little shocking. I think especially to people in the industry into marketers in general copywriters, how basic that might seem to them. And that's. Probably the same in every industry. It's like if you the professionals that swirl around any given industry are always going to be kind of at the far edges of trying to find out what's out there in what's going on where clients customers are, you know, they just they just want to to work, and that's certainly the case here, and so in our strategic plans, it's funny because the I don't want to say that none of the I think already said, none of the strategies and tactics that we talk about a lot don't work. I think mildly. My main hope would be that people would remember to go back to the basics in always go back to those fundamentals, and that's what do your question what we really kind of focus on with strategic plans is things like, you know, number one. I mean, literally who's your audience who are you talking to how can you reach out to them? What what kind of one of the big questions is how willing Abel's desirous? Are you? You of fully committing in a way that probably uncomfortable to content production. Whether that's text video audio imagery. There's only a few things that can be done fundamentally in terms of producing content. But are you willing able and desirous of doing those things and a lot of people aren't that's fine. So then we find another way to kind of get that done either through hiring out or or sometimes we we've several clients that just monsters, and they are producing stuff on a scale and at a pace that I can't even believe that they're running a their actual business on top of it. And it's just it's really cool to see that. I think is rare because we've all faced that. I mean, even in the content, quote content business it gets difficult. You got the business run you got things to manage. But also, you know in copy bloggers case, of course, this ongoing content is is a bare minimum to to get it out on regular basis. So things like that. We look at conversion opportunities basic conversion fundamental conversion opportunities like you know, how your headlines doing. What is the structure of the basic structure of your homepage is is is a big one. What do you want to sell, you know, above the fold? What do you want in in sections on the homepage below that? And what's the best kind of placement for you know, obviously, I'd say maybe eighty percent of the time. We wanna go for the Email list. I sometimes there's probably a little more than eighty percent. But sometimes there's something else either temporarily that they're wanting people to see I we're not and then going down like the homepage in the structure of all that and basic things like how are your calls to action? Do you have calls to action? I think you wrote about this fourteen years ago. You know, do you have a call to action? So in you, and I. And can can laugh at that. You know, warm heartedly there's no mocking there. But you know. It's one of those things that we forget from laughing at it. And I'm laughing at marketers not the clients because the clients they've got their thing going on. But to expect someone to even know what the hell is. And I try not to use those acronyms and things like that. But calls to action in what it is is ridiculous. That's what we're there for. So. And remembering this might be you know, one of the most important things is remembering to to serve them. And if you're not humbling kind of yourself just because like you said, I just got back from this amazing conference in, you know, Budapest. And what the what they said was we gotta do this like, well, that's cool. Maybe it's applicability, but how's your house your cost actions? So things like that. And then things that maybe we'll talk about if you let me on again, big ones, like cornerstone, content and content landing pages that the copy large talked about for years. I kinda talk about that in the way of. Main site topics, but so big overview fundamental things that's like the focus on and then, you know, more tactical things, of course, like SEO and copywriting in general, and what kind of content produce. Fema interesting disasters. I I am curious like what are the what are the problems? I mean, and it's I I like what you said. And I want to reinforce it. I have seen some brilliant. People brilliant business owners, in fact, really in some ways at wonderful marketers. And sometimes you just get blind spots. And there's just stuff like you, don't you don't do. Well, so most important, I think is like this is not about, you know, shaming anybody for not having an aspect of their marketing in order because there's a lot of pieces, and there's always a piece that you know, we haven't been like we're only this year really getting really getting into sigma nation, which is incredible. You know? So it's always something there's always something can learn or do better. So just in that spirit. I would be curious to know, what are the what are the problems? You hear all the time. You know, you've got clients coming to you every week and say, you know, either it's a problem. They know they have or maybe a problem. Why don't they have? But they do have. Yeah. Yeah. I think the two two or three big ones would be how do I reach the people? I wanna reach whether that be clients or in a in a service situation or customers in product situation. The second big one was how the hell the expect me to create all this content that you're asking me to create which we've known for years that that kind of very legitimate complaint in in concern in then just kind of like, you said being unaware of some of the incredibly powerful winds that are fundamental so and I like what you said to. It's it's almost like we're I don't know if you've ever say it, but but so many people so many professionals in all kinds of industries, I think deep down maybe expect people to diet like the doctor or not going to the doctor like expecting people to diagnose their own physical ailments, and you just can't approach. That. And so whatever I mean, there's all kinds of ways to think about it. I guess, but beginner's mind and all of that. And even as a as a professional, but to help people get through probably those three would be the big ones. And and really. Yeah. Looking for those opportunities for them in those fundamentals before you even begin to discuss I mean, I won't name them. But one of our one of our clients has done just an incredible job of on the content production side, and they had a period of time a few years ago where they were doing this and doing very well. And the kind of got busy dropped off. Maybe got some different advice and things kind of tanked in terms of traffic to their site and subsequent revenue. And so you know, what we have a really give them all the credit because number one they have an amazing product. But number two like I said they've just utterly committed to this idea of content production. It's not even content protection. You know, we've always struggled with this word content. One of the earliest conversations that I had with them was you know, they got it right away. And they were already going there. But it was this idea of you guys need to create a magazine you guys need to create a brand as the writers. And as it so happens, the writers, and the photographers that you already are and create a brand of a of a magazine that people come to then, of course, leads to your business, and that's exactly what they've done and in. I think it's been just under year. We've seen incredible gains just from that that one thing. And so now we get into things like repack. Edging repurposing all of his great content. They've produced. Yes. Automation segmentation some more sophisticated stuff. But they've done this hard work for the this year in they're gonna keep going. And so you can imagine if someone were to commit to that as we've said many times if you've got two three five years of of really good content surrounding your topic. Client, whatever it is. And you've you've created this brand of of of media around it, the possibilities for what you can then go back and do in terms of repurposing repackaging in a thousand different ways or endless. Yeah. Our friend, Andy Christina over it media. I always mentioned because he's such a dull any smart, so smart, but he and I had a conversation at the elbow the lifetime body of work. And I think about that a lot 'cause I'm incapable your has a very large elbow. Yes. Outsized elbow. You know comes a time. When it's like you've done a lot of the creative thinking, and now it's really time to get those ideas into fresh presentations and make them eligible in in new ways. So the new people can find them, you're imagine. Maybe the the big point there is this is not some complicated thing that you have to sweat and die over. It's it's really like basically what they did. They made some very specific decisions in their case. Our client about editorial calendar and back to this kind of you know, main topics that they're going to be writing about early on. And then they just produced. Great media. There's no spread you know. Insane spreadsheets involved. There's no insane. You know, marketing funnels or anything those things are all good. But to get to a starting place where those things become. Valuable. It's the fundamentals they create they create a good wrote blog posts. Yeah. And I act to no magic bullet no silver bullet. I see a lot of people. Yeah. I mean, we keep you know. It's just it is we keep his numbered fundamental. And it really is. It's the it's the ground everything else spilt on. So it doesn't matter. Like, how amazing your traffic strategy is if you're sites not worth spending time on. If there's nothing there to really enjoy an experience for its own sake and learn from and, you know, keep your interest. You never gonna go further. So, yeah, this is to another point that we've talked about before that exactly. And if you're not doing those fundamentals all the hate the word, quote, ethical bribes all the SEO all the conversion hardcore conversion copywriting, all even the paid ads in the world are not going to save you, you know, you don't have something worth come into. And you know that insight like the least, you know, come by a guy on the planet. Dan, Kennedy said, you know, if you're a great salesperson, and you have a lousy product all you do is get the word out faster about crummier. The same thing is true for content you can promote crappy content day long, and you will vary. Officially get the word out that your site is not worth ROY. Not really. I don't really help you. Yeah. And that that's the turning point. It's it's it's like, okay. Well, how do I create great content? Well, if you can't through time and effort and energy answer that question. Truly can't enter the answer that question. That's fine. It's not it's not for everyone. But whether it's you doing it or you working with partnering with somebody who can do it or hiring somebody who can do it overtime that. It's got to be done. And so you can create that big elbow. I think did you see Val Kilmer elbow. I think he heat in the movie heat. He's got this knob noble. It's the weirdest checking the next time you anyway. Can you go? But I thought I get nece don't kill. Well. That's funny. I wanna wrap up I wanna wrap up with something that is both strategic and tactical your, you know, something that because realistically, we can talk strategy all day long. But people do have to take steps strategy is also but action. So I know you have a thing a really important strategic minimal thing. It's not that hard to do the people forget so do wanna kind of deliver your bonus tip. And then we can talk about next steps. Yeah. The this is really cool and in kind of closing thing. You know, what we're talking about here, you know, Brian popularized, the idea and really kind of owned it and cemented it a few years ago with with his idea of media, not marketing, and he's tagline within that tagline within those three words are if there is an answer I have found it's in there in terms to this marketing question. That we all have and back to the fundamentals and everything we've talked about and creating content. Like, this is you're either building brand or you're just hustling in grab it whatever you can and shit. I gotta do the paid ads. I gotta do this. I what's next. What's next? What can I put on pile onto this thing to try to make it work or you can create a brand that is ultimately over time well done in indestructible, and that's creating media that people want tactically Alevi with this. This last bonus at one thing that people forget, and I've seen this across the board in this definitely in our strategic plan kind of arena as well is a very simple thing. And that is build an Email opt in landing page. If you're not familiar with the idea of wine Email opt in Email list is important. So new can take care of that. There's plenty of stuff you can find copy blogger to read why that's important how to do it. Well, why you should do it? But. Tactically, build a Bill the landing page dedicated landing page, no distractions that is for your Email optin. And that is headline at his maybe short copy. Maybe it's a longer copy selling your Email optin just like you would sell a product on a normal landing page, but so the emotion, and the reason why somebody would want to potentially want to sign up for your Email list. That is very basic thing. There's probably a five thousand of you listening to this right now, just shaking your head rolling your eyes outlets. Dumbest most obvious thing I've ever heard. But I'm telling you, this is the kind of thing the clients want, and frankly, the clients deserve whether you're working with them or you're giving them advice indirectly from from your own blog. And this does a couple of things one of the things kind of unexpected benefits this Email opt in landing page idea, which has been around forever. I'm not saying that, you know, this is like some. But but is that just like everything else that you're doing you want your great Arctic? Was to be shared. You want easy access to them? You want to give them your own URL in the same way. It makes it easy, for instance, like on your home page above the fold. If you want the Email opt in kind of little short pitch to be the main thing, you got a knife. Create a nice easy little button to your Email opt in page instead of trying to fool with all your code for the form. And all that I know that's easier now with with some of the services that are available now. But it just makes it really easy to share on social media makes it easy for people to pass around. If you're delivering in that way, you know, it's like people are gonna wanna share it. Give him an easy way to do. So so on the surface small basic thing, but we're talking about demento, right? And this will this will transform your Email list. Can you let us know? And we we will be we will be bringing Robert back more than once. I think for to get into some of this. But I I know that you do have briefing people can get and just kiss them. Mm again so much on those fundamentals and helps them start to think three things you wanna point them to that. Yes. Thank you rainmaker digital dot com. If you go to the homepage there, you're gonna see a big blue button click that blue button in sign up for the rainmaker way Email list. 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April 10  Hour 2  Elways History of O-Lineman | Movie Review: Tombstone

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April 10 Hour 2 Elways History of O-Lineman | Movie Review: Tombstone

"After the second and final hour of the week the weeks are dragging on. But they're going fast at the same time is that does that. Is I alone in that thought process? You kind of feels like that. Not sure if that's just because our days are different. We're not putting in the regular amount of of time here throughout or or what that is but And obviously it seems long because of all the news that we continue to get the bad news we continue to get and I know that. That's that certainly makes it feel that way but you know. Colfax you gotTA I. I suppose trying to to look at every situation in in in in a way where you can say I gotta try to get the positive out of this thing. You know 'cause some people WanNa do the gloom doom thing all day every day and I just not about that you know and it's difficult for me so I'm looking at this in. Hey it's terrible. I feel for all the families that are affected for sure But Hey Listen. Since we're in this spot you gotta make the best of what you're doing and I for one of enjoyed getting home a little bit earlier and being there. Wake my kid up from his NAP. You know we're not waking mopping be there. When he wakes up. Yeah first time I did it. Who were you know post? Nap Gavin is not used to dad standing there so That side has been nice. You know and again a lot of my neighbor my neighborhood. They're just all out walking and they're not parks and stuff but they're out walking. All these families are together that you know I don't know I don't maybe I'm not driving home at that time. Typically so maybe at that time everybody's out like that anyway but. I'm just not used to it so it's crazy first advantage text line three one nine nine six it is not so the neighborhoods are just. They're lively in a in a way you know we're social distancing or whatever but they're still lively when my wife and I were first We were building our house and we were look drove around the neighborhood now. I remember seeing all these was way before we had our Kiddo right families pushing babies around both of us for like about have nervous breakdowns. Well I'm not ready for suburbia yet. I'm not I told my wife. I said if we were moving in now we'd really be freaking out because there's nonstop. There's just families all over the place. I mean yeah like family just threw up all over the neighborhood but it really is a beautiful beautiful thing. We got our tombstone movie review coming up in about ten minutes. So we're we we get. We have our system that we put in place. Is it a first round if it's a first rounder? Listen if Colfax I are both senator first. Rounder that movie is a must watch. She'd probably drop everything you're doing. Just go watch it. Yeah actor after after. Show right after the show if it's a second rounder. Uk Yeah it's a good movie etc. I'm not going to promise you anything. Third Rounders like yeah not not bad not bad you may or may not like it. I have no idea if I watched it on a bad mood. Maybe I'm not going to like it. I don't know fourth-round okay. There are some nice parts in it not overall not great. Yeah and then you go fifth rounder. It's like I mean. I liked the fact that there was an actor that I liked was in it. Sixth-round no I'M NOT GONNA. I don't like it seven. Oh I hate it undrafted. Why am I watching this garbage? This is absolute nut. So does that paints the picture a little bit. I think so. That's our rating system coming up so I want to get your thoughts on Tombstone. And they made like to these movies pretty close together. They had With Kevin Costner. I think it was Dennis Quaid or Randy Randy quit. I look like that because that was intrigued. When you see as you go watch any clips from that curious to get your thoughts on what you thought of. Quaid's you know. Version of DOT com today versus Val. Kilmer's Okay Kevin. Costner was bad. I mean Kevin Costner. Kurt Russell both perfect wider me. They're just plain Jane do even though they had some colorful backgrounds and stuff like that but when when you catch up with them in these these movies they're kind of at that point where the readiness for tire and be done with that life and stuff so it's kind of crazy when you think of wider. Do you have any idea what? Ag was when he died Colfax guessing judging by his crazy lifestyle. I mean you'd say like sixty eighty years old. Wow for all that he went through and all the shoot outs and all this stuff he was eight. He died at eighty years old fairly comfortable. He wasn't it wasn't like a crazy. You know terrifying shootout that ended his life ending credits of Tombstone is that when he died he actually worked with the actors that played some of the first movies. Yeah Yeah and there's some interesting tidbits about that to occur. I'm excited to get to those two like to hear more about. This is a fun. It was a fun movie. And we'll get to our full on review coming up in the next segment. Our power play sports. Poll question of the day is it time for the broncos to officially get Garrett Bowles is replacement. Listen it's not like they haven't tried. I mean if they saw somebody on that line that just blew him away then they'd start him and I know there's there's your conspiracy theorists out there. Well douay drafted. He's not gonNA give up on his draft. Pick out of these one. Are you out of your mind? No I mean I don't know why you sound like that but that's how you sound. He's replaced picks crazy right. I mean devante booker gone. He was a fourth rounder. You Know Paxton Lynch was the first round or he's nice and Gone Adam. Got sece's gone so do I. I'm not going to you know you want to look at first rounders from John. Elway's tenure well semester Williams back Derek Wolfe. He was the second round everybody uses. I pick they're gone. Bradley Roby Gone. Shane raise gone. Paxton Lynch has gone is still there. Bradley Chubb is still there. No Fan still there but you know this idea that. Oh always gotta be proven easy to prove these right well. The thing of it is is gables on paper should be one of the best tackles in the game but mentally. He has a lot of mistakes to work on. And the idea again. Bring Mike Mon- check in and help him. I for one like the idea of full year under his belt and now let's see if it starts to work because last year in the process you're in the process of the reason. The broncos really wanted much they also interviewed for head coach but it worked out because much has family in Colorado worked out. You wanted him here to help with this offensive line to groom this offensive line and then to really help out your left tackle. Because what is the most important position on offense aside from the quarterback to the quarterback especially a right handed quarterback? It is the left tackle so that is a big position. They have to get figured out. And that's one of the reasons. Bunch is here so when we asked the question is it time for the broncos to replace Garrett Bowles. It seems like an obvious answer. But that means that you're ready to go in the first round. That you're drafting an offensive lineman in the first round so you can't have it both ways. The broncos already have locked up what they're GONNA do in Free Agency and Trades. Yeah there might be some stragglers coming and going here but nobody is out there right now. Unless there's a big trade coming that would lead me to believe that the Broncos are in are in the works to fight a direct replacement for Garrett Bowles at a free agency or via trade. There's nothing out there that would leave me there now. So that would mean you want them to take a an offensive lineman in the draft and that would mean first or second that means you want L. Andrew Thomas at Georgia. You know you're you're looking at a guy like Andrew Thomas. Out of Georgia you're seeing generic has more of a guard Becton out of Louisville worse out of Iowa. Those are the guys Andrew. Thomas is projected to be ten according to CBS SPORTS DOT com. A couple of others. We've looked at. He's projected to be number ten so he could get close but he might go before that happens. You know when you look at a lot of the projections and the mock drafts and yeah they. They like him going fairly early. So then let's just assume Thomas's out. Who's a Stud Like I said Jesuit Willis he out of Alabama. He's pretty good in but he's probably projected to go a little bit higher even but he's only again. Some of these guys can play guard. Some of them can blake tackle now. Most offensive lineman. You could find ways to move them around you know. I think you look at Glasgow. I mean he's a guy that they could move from either the guard position or you can put them at center. I mean a lot of these guys can move around dolled. Reisner could play tackle if they needed him to but he's better at that guard position. You've got the guy out of Iowa who is projected to go thirteen or so so he's going to be there. Listen there's a couple of options there but I'm one of those guys Colfax and again dull reisner proves the point. And I've I've I've had these points proven wrong before but Dalton reisner and he he. He's one of those guys. Where the broncos said we don't need to draft a line in the first round we want to drive for the second and here we go and look what happened. Alden risers already on on a path to be one of the best players for the broncos. I mean he was solid last year. So I'm not there. I like the idea of strengthening your defense or giving drew lock of a weapon a key weapon overall and I think that's that's typically where I'm sitting so that means if you're voting if you're saying that yes it's time for the Broncos to find his replacement before the season begins then you're saying it's time to draft him in the first round bowls suggest hold ten times in the first game and get it all out of his system. Yeah that's pretty good. Ken Bone Brcko. Should hold onto him. Yeah I mean you look at it as a listen. Look at his numbers and they're not they're not great necessarily when he when he as far as off his penalties had thirteen offensive holding calls against him. Two false starts one unnecessary roughness and one illegal block above the waist. You know you look around most most linemen. Don't have even close to that number. I mean you have Taylor out of Jacksonville who had nine holding calls against him. It's Yeah it's a big problem. It really is ton of you right. New Get those ten done early and you don't have to worry about three power to play. Sports poll question of the day should the broncos officially and finally say. We're moving on from the former first round pick. And if you're saying that then you're you're you're almost guarantee you're you're wanting the broncos a guarantee that they're going to draft an offensive lineman in the first round at the very late at the very latest in the second because a third and beyond is just competition. Somebody had tweeted earlier to me and said you. I'd like to see this team draft guile a mid to late round. That's open for competition. And I think that's the smartest tweet text we've had on this today because that's all you can do. You shouldn't waste a pick on an offensive tackle right now. That may or may not work out seventeen minutes after the hour. I WANNA thank A great sponsor Rosen. It's on the rocks liquor. The weekends coming up stop by on the rocks and they got their drive through Rowland and tell him we sent you here from the whole show powered by PD energy. I love the fact that you can call ahead to. You're driving down there and call on the rocks. Say Hey I want this. They'll get ready for you that way. When you do get in line you pull up you. GotTa do is pay and go. And they're doing it. They're doing a fantastic job. That's on the rocks liquor seventeen minutes after the hour. Our REVIEW OF TOMBSTONE COMING UP NEXT. We're here with you keep it on. Kfi Am for the latest on cove in nineteen the effect on the sports scene in more thirteen ten KFI K. And Thirteen ten K of K DOT com the fast UNC bears targeting game coverage lives on thirteen ten kfi saying hey nuggets coach at the Denver Nuggets. And you're listening to the whole show a thirteen ten K S K Jane Johnson. Welcome welcome yes. This is our official movie review of Tombstone Justice. His coming Kurt. Russell Val Kilmer I. I got goosebumps going right now that that. That's a good song right there. That's a good good score. It was a good score as they might say tombstone. Nineteen Ninety three American Western film directed by George P Coz Motto Smitten by Kevin Jarre. Who also was the original director but was replaced early in production. Interesting Kurt Russell Val kilmer. Sam Elliott Bill Paxton Powers boothe by the way played Curly Bill. I loved. Curly bill in this one but just overall. Colfax some great scenes in this is there. Is there anything that that sticks out to you? One of your favorite scenes before we really break into this. Yeah I have it right here early on. It was when doc Holliday is like one of his first poker games that we've kind of met the character and he just he keeps us throughout the movie's just so cool calm and confident when faced with the I guess aggression from other people. So that's Give it a lesson. Here must be teach of hand. We are opposed to range. But I guess I'll just have to call. Isn't that a daisy down shut? Why the we cross you eat nothing but a skinny longer. What an ugly thing to say. This mean we're not friends anymore. If I thought you were my friend I just don't think I could bear the now. We can be friends again. Whip that guns flings around and sets them on the poker table until now it can be. I love that Val Kilmer kilmer's been in some some interesting movies. I'm not I mean. He was Batman. Once if you if you can believe that. The third one they made in the nineties. This was his best role for me. Doc Holliday I mean since ational. How cool was DOC Holliday? Too In that movie in. Obviously I don't know if that was really how he was but gotta be somewhat close right right. Okay so basically this is. This is an excellent setting or in tombstone. There's an outlaw gang. They were red sashes. They're called the cowboys. They're led by curly bill. Mccartney it build Bruce's I'm watching my call founder of the Feast. Next time with com- better step aside. I I love that I think powers boothe bell. Kilmer's the favourite obviously as doc holliday. But I honestly think powers was sensational as curly. Bill be such a bad guy you know. So they're in this town and they basically like just say. Hey we run this town and if you don't like it you know tough because we run it. We're killing people. Were doing whatever we want. We own this place and basically you start to get you get the Herbs Wider Virgil Morgan. They all start arriving. They vented adventure to tombstone to to settle down pretty much well. Tombstone was like a boomtown back and they wanted to go there. Because I think there's lots of gold mining going on and so wide open. His buddies all kind of went out there to try and strike it rich and -sarily gold mining but just in any way all sort of busy and we're thinking about starting a business too so they're kind of they're for that you run into two doc Holliday. There too and we know that wide open DOT COM. Today have a history so they know each other. They're good friends. But then Virgil it's virtual same. Elliott's character really starts to see the craps hitting the fan in this town and he's like I can't stand by anymore. I gotTA do some so he starts to To become the law and then you see wider. Jump into it as well and right. Yeah because like the mayor of the town or whatever is like didn't their share leave or something. Yeah yeah or some man he died. I don't I think that guy out him so they were looking for some law and order. Fill the spot and the mayor was hoping that would come in. And he's like no no no I don't want I left that life behind him here to make money and strike rich and then like you said same. Elliott's character Kinda had a soft spot in his heart and saw the damage that was being done to the town and the people of town and he thought it was time to step in and do something which then ended up bringing Wyatt into that. Jareth role again. Yeah and why in the movie you kind of get an idea that he's had an up and down past law law man but he was also begin his times. He was also kind of an outlawed too. And that's kind of holds up with history double checked everything on this Colefax with with history. But would you believe it that this was a big Hollywood thing. They really built it up so it was. They did have the shootout an OK corral and it was basically a four on four at that point and it happened similar. You know the the deaths and we're not gonNA give that away but the deaths have one of the deaths happen very similar to how it was depicted in the movie. Sam Elliott's character Virgil was hurt. So bad that he was crippled in that one leg that did happen but this was crazy. They they when they started to make this famous. A lot of people didn't take to it. When Wyatt earp was a little bit younger like in his sixties or whatever But when he was getting older they started to make the the. There's a biography published by Stuart N Lake in Nineteen thirty one became a bestseller establishing herb as a folk hero among millions of Americans searching for inspiration and excitement during the hard times of the Great Depression. Interesting we're watching tombstone during some hard times right now. This was brought up in the Great Depression and a lot of people. Were like how we need a hero and Wyatt. Urp was one of those heroes so they met lake later admitted that may many quotations attributed to the frontiers when were invented in the BIOGRA- today is accepted as largely fictional however the the shootout at OK corral did happen and it did happen that way you know wider and his brothers did come to that town to settle down and anyway so that's just a little side note on the history aspect of it. Well I have a question since he read up on the history and this kind of bugged me a little bit in. The movie is when the town decided that. They're just going to outlaw guns within the town. Yeah and then same. Elliot's characters what you can't we're not saying you can't have a gun not saying you can't carry gun owner gun just can't do it here. Yeah and I just don't know if that's the word that I have not read. I I haven't looked you know again. That was very strange. I looked up and he was basically the one that led it Virgil was. He was the guy that started. This and Wyatt earp was fighting very hard to just be. I WanNa be a simple guy. I WANNA have two girlfriends and see what happens. Maybe I like one one. I don't but I don't want to get involved so it. I'm not quite sure on that one Colfax but I do know Virgil was the main one that came in and said this town is so freaking dirty that I got to correct it and so maybe he did do that that okay but I mean I always. I always thought that was weird. Where did they check their guns in? Like right when right into town a little been here you go and how do I trust that my guns going back to me? I thought that was weird So you didn't. You had some problems with the movie. I did It did knocked out of the park. I mean we had some. I guess early reviews from some hooligans yesterday saying its first draft. Pick no matter what and you know. I'll tell you which I think on that later but for me had this. Kinda the love story with Wyatt. Urp and like you like you were kind of looting to earlier it just. I don't have a problem with a love story but I just feel like. They left out so many parts like some backstory on certainly with his I guess I. What were they girlfriend? Wife that he kinda shows up to town with. I feel like there's some backstory there that was just completely left out. Yeah and needed to be there so Dana Wheeler Nicholson plays Mattie blaylock. Who is wider. First girl the girl that he's with when we meet everybody right well historic hit the historical figure that she was she was a prostitute who became a romantic companion and common law wife of wider. So basically they just hung around each other so long and that they just became husband wife that way they didn't give a lot of. There's not a lot of knowledge about her. You know why because Josephine who ends up being wider pts. That's the girl. He ends up with forever. concealed it didn't want didn't want information out there. That's according to that's historical facts right. There she kept things concealed so that people would not really know much about her whether she was a great. That would be no. But I'm with you It drove me crazy. She's Kinda. She's kind of sick right two and she's never wanting him to leave the house and out and about and that part was weird. I did not buy into the chemistry at all. If we want to get into the review side of it I did not buy into the chemistry of Kurt. Russell and whoever played Josephina Dana Delany? I didn't buy it. I mean you have Kurt. Russell's wider almost straightforward square. I'M NOT GONNA laugh at anything I got. This must ask the covers my mouth and then you have Josephine who is this actress? Free living free spirits do whatever? Obviously it worked out. They in real life they they died together. I mean he died at the age of eighty and they became now they settle down had a nice life. But I didn't buy into that relationship as much so when you and I were talking about. That was actually. The weak point of the movie is probably that relationship. So those are your big issues with it was really just the love story side of it and like you said so. He had kind of Josephine. They talk and she's like why plan on traveling. The country in nonstop travel travel travel. And he kind of likes. That idea of which you just mentioned is kind of against his character as a whole and then he goes back home to his. Common-law wife is what do you think about US travel in the country? It's like we just got here. What do you mean we just came here to settle down and now you're just kind of sick right. Yeah so it was kind of just weird. Yeah I always remember. That always bugged me that part of it but I will say the rest the the battles between the herbs and the cowboys were were great and again we talked about curly bill But you know one of the best scenes in the movie was really a lot of the lines. Everybody knows from Doc Holliday. Could look at it. Mike Talk GonNa end up cowboys finished. You understand me I see a Red Saticoy. Kill a man wearing it so run. Her jolly other turns the large urban Jonah House China in West Virginia Charleston Wider. But I love that part too. Yeah that's a great line doesn't tense. I didn't like how he keeps letting go though. It drove me crazy. I couldn't stand I if I take the white set. The Red Sash off. I'm I'm free. Whatever but VAL Kilmer I think one of the most quoted things even. If you've never seen tombstone you know this line Johnny Ringo like somebody just walked over your grade with you holiday. I'll beg to differ so we started the game we never got to finish playful blood. Remember I was just fooling about. I wasn't favorite scene in that movie. So that like I said it's like that beginning seeing Cannibal. We first meet dock at that poker game. He has that same air about him. And then I kinda start to maybe drift away from moved in the middle and then this scene happens towards the end. Sounds like okay? This is really really good. I love that he is like. He's basically on his deathbed the entire movie but he's almost there. Her at the very end gets up. He tricks wider up into thinking. He's dying right there so he gets up sneaks out fines Ringo Ringo's a stud to ringo was a it was a gun. He was a guy that could shoot man and he So he was no match. Why would have been no match for him? Wider put food good fighter but not necessarily straight up one on one gunfighter. Holiday was so he knew that I loved. That was a very redeeming part of holiday story and it was it was. That was my favorite part. I look forward to that. I told you yesterday that I'm big into the character. Val kilmer I thought it was sensational actor in this. But you've got to watch movies differently than I do. Apparently we kind of learned this this morning when we were prepping. It seems like bad actor sticks out to you more than a great actor right i. It's kind of weird to admit but I don't understand necessarily what a good actor is and I know that sounds weird like I don't look for that in a movie. I hope I don't know if you like this comparison. Yeah go for basically think you look like on the offensive line okay? I don't know what makes a great offensive lineman but what makes a bad offensive lineman. Yes so if you're going to hold all the time and you're going to give up socks. I'm GonNa Notice that if you block and you make you drew drew locks jerseys clean. And he's completing his pass. I I respect it. I appreciate it but I'm not really gonNA notice it. You think is the offensive line or acting. At least yeah because for me a movie. I look for the story. First and foremost second is kind of how it's shot the of the movie And then the acting just has to play into that and then I don't notice the acting and that's that's you giving it to complement without singling one actor out. I would say so did it. Keep the story for you then. Did you notice any actors where you're just like? Oh this takes me out of this team other than the love story right other than love story. You know I'll go with you there. Bill Back Paxton was really good. Is Morgan up and then obviously Sam Elliott. I mean he's the same guy and everything that he's ever done but I'm okay with that. It's Sam Eliot. I'm fine with that Kurt Russell about he's he's always another one of those actors. That's the same dude pretty much. Except for Captain Ron which might be in the lists soon love? I do notice that a lot. 'cause and I I'm very picky. I can get taken out of a movie like that. And if so overacted it drives me crazy. You know you see this with sports sports superhero movies. If a guy tries to really get deep into a character it can really take me out so that that I struggle with Ho Geico effects so I think we all agree. I think I tend to us. I'm agreeing with you on. The love story did kind of it. Wasn't well done. I'm not saying I don't need in that movie but it wasn't well done the background. You're right wasn't there when you look at the history there's a little more to it But I didn't buy into that chemistry as much the whole actor Billy Zane being in it and being an actor I wasn't I wasn't really nuts about that and a weird traveling. Act like the Billy Zane. Whatever that was I it was fine. I don't know that that part kind of got me. So let's give US A. Is this a first round? Pick for you. Are you taking this Or are you looking? More second round middle round isn't even on your radar stuff on my radar. It's something I'll watch again but it's not a first rounder. Obvious it's Middle. Second Round me a great movie. I really like watching it again. The way it was shot in the athletics was like this is really cool to watch you know. Yeah but like the way directors and put together. I really enjoyed that. And that's enough for me to go back and watch it The story line hit or miss but then you go back for the characters in the lines. And that's that's I'd watch it again. But not the second rounder. Means you liked it you are kind recommending it. But it's not one of those that you're just like oh I swear by this movie. I don't think the add ons whereby and I'm GonNa go even though I get you on the low side. I think again Val Kilmer I the cowboys ring Goto but curly bill. Those guys both kind of they raise the bar for me enough where I enjoy watching the interplay between those actors that much that even the weird clunky love story that was. It's still one of those that I I would never tell anyone that it's not a bad move. I would say it's a great movie and you watch it so I highly recommend it. I'll go first rounder on this. Yeah that's their review so we go first round second round. The average of the two were saying late. First Rounder early second we we can agree on early so I think collectively. It's early second. I go first round so I highly recommend it. Colfax is like hey not a bad movie but I don't know that it's I don't know it's it's whatever its second board. I'm certainly go watch it. Yeah Def don't don't go over yourself trying to copy of it to fight it. Yeah I can respect. I can respect that Better than third. Third Rounder means. It's okay you know it's all right you know maybe maybe it will grow on you but second or mean pretty good at that point haul against what do you think. We got our official review. I got first round. Pick on this one. Colfax is going second forty minutes after the hour. We'll take a quick break. We'll wrap up this discussion about Garrett Bowles as well go vote on our power to play sports poll question it's available at the whole show dot com curious to get your thoughts right now to the latest on a local sports flash thirteen ten. Kfi PREPS RADIO IS NORTHERN. Colorado's home for the best highschool coverage. Start Your morning off right with your recommended daily intake of news weather and traffic to get yourself up and running. Join US mornings okay. All sixty nine thirteen ten. Kfi forty four minutes. After the hour high we oppose. I posted it up on my twitter. Feed my our facebook page. I go first. Rounder Colefax coming in slightly under that with a second rounder. Last week we did white man. Ken Jump in that. That got both a second or see like I l look at those two movies and I look at White. Men CAN'T JUMP ON MCGILL. Liked that movie. It's pretty good but it's not one of those that I'm just like I'm GonNa you know what we got tonight. We're hanging out. I'm going to recommend a movie. That's going to be one of them. That's not it tombstone. Absolutely that'd be in that mix so you kinda did the same thing in your second rounders. Yeah it'd be careful. He moving forward. I don't WanNa get too many second. Rounders built up. You gotta you gotTa get F- start trading around. Yeah Yeah but you and I are in under uncharted territory next week because both movies that we've done I have had the I suppose the luxury of seeing them at a different stage so I saw them in the early nineties. I don't know if that impacts how I viewed them absolutely does. Yeah I actually. I think it does because it impacted me at an early age. That doesn't go away. You might look at it and go. Oh those were kind of clunky scenes but if you love to grow up not gonNA hate it you know thirty twenty years for example space jam is still I pick for such a good movie is a first round. Pick like seriously. You're sitting around with your girlfriend. You're sitting around the body you haven't seen in a while. He got one movie to watch before that person heads off to wherever they're going and is going to be one of them in the mix it gets easily especially if maybe as an old friend that we watched it growing up. That's true. Yeah I mean it was still actually holds some staying power still actually pretty entertaining. It's it's silly but it's still pretty entertaining right but next week. Just the Hogan's no we are doing. What does it call lots once upon a time in Hollywood once upon a time in Hollywood fairly new movie it is couldn't turn and Brad Pitt and mandate nope not Matt Damon? Leonardo DiCaprio Creek cast by the way. I don't always agree with everything that we have says in real in the real world but I think he is one of the greatest actors in the history of the world. I think that's really yeah. I'm trying to think well my favorite movie of all time has gangs of New York. Okay and he's he's obviously the main character so I love that nineties. Leo Not not so much except for what's eating Gilbert grape since moving very depressing that was Johnny Depp. Back in cash. Early Nineties But he's in some great ones. You know two thousand and beyond seems like that was awesome shutter island inception. Those are those are pretty good. Feel like I've seen all of his movies. Which will titanic. Titanic the island. No it's like where everybody goes to high and then there's actually dangerous stuff going on. Is that different than shutter island now? It is different. I don't know if it's called the island but it's something like that as based on a book here we go so. I'm excited to see that one. I want to get your thoughts. What do you think of our reviews? Some of you had somebody earlier. This is more of a third rounder. I liked it is Kinda cliche cliche for all too. I mean most Western's pretty pretty cliche. I guess not all of them. Some of them are. I did like how they kind of kept like a classic kind of Western feel it. Yeah they did but then they updated cameron obviously like the video. Quality was there. Yeah Clint Eastwood. It's all grainy. Yeah it was nice. It was nice to watch. It was. Yeah and again. It's I didn't change me enough but we when you and I were talking. I was a kid. I've always been annoyed by the love story. I don't know if it's because the chemistry or it was a necessary. I'm not saying I don't like a good love story mixed in with a good action movie but it did seem and I didn't like our so conflicted about wider to creep cheating on his wife but she's at home the whole time but you know that kind of bothered me but that also kinda add more. I guess more depth to the character on ESA. Yeah I got a first round. Colfax given a second round or our power to play sports. Poll question of the day should broncos be set and ready to replace gables? You're saying yes. Fifty four percent saying yes draft replacement. That means you're doing it in round one. I hope you're ready number. Fifteen with the fifteenth pick overall in the NFL draft. The broncos are looking more at a guy like I like the guy at Georgia. Or you know you're going you're going with Jay Drik Willis out of Alabama. Who's more of a guard? But I guess he could play tackle. I'm not there. I'm I'm not looking at that site. Andrew Thomas. At a Georgia Generic Willis junior or Becton Louisville or Tristan. Wharfs those four guys. Probably the only way you're gonNA have a shot at it fifteen and they might. Two of them might be gone before you get there all right forty nine minutes after the hour. We'll take a quick break. Wrap up the show the other side. It's the whole show powered by energy missing sports on K. K. Enjoy SOME INSTANT CLASSICS WITH. Kfi Am classics every Thursday and Friday. Night on thirteen ten K. F. K. And Thirteen Ten. Kfi DOT COM get. Your Day started right with up to date news weather and sports mornings with Gail six. Am to nine. Am Weekdays on Thirteen Ten KFI K? Hi this is Jesse Kirk executive producer and lead anchor the mountain West Network. And you're listening to the whole show thirteen ten. Kfi welcome back to the show. We're time flies when you have fun man all right so I'm saying watch tombstone this weekend. Colfax is saying it could probably wait but maybe someday you watch it if you run out of things to watch watch it I want to get your thoughts on that one. The poll question looks like you guys are ready to replace Garrett Bowles I get it I understand. It's just not as easy as it looks and I think the Broncos have bigger needs right now especially because they addressed that offensive line through free agency and the trade side of things and obviously risers going to be another year end. So he's going to be good so I gather needs that's going to do it for us though. Checkout we've got our whole minute. Video is up. Pump the brakes on Eddie Mack. Check it out at the whole dot com and our latest blogs and podcasts and so much more again at the whole show dot com. We'll talk to you on a Monday. Good night northern Colorado.

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The San Francisco Nightly Zeiters 4/21: Bill Clinton, Val Kilmer, Taco Tuesday, UCB

The Daily Zeitgeist

13:43 min | 6 months ago

The San Francisco Nightly Zeiters 4/21: Bill Clinton, Val Kilmer, Taco Tuesday, UCB

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Friends like Sarah Chalk John C McGinley Neil Flynn Judy Reyaz show Creator, Bill Lawrence Editors Writers and even prompt masters will tell us about what inspired the series, and how we became a family, you can listen to the podcast. Fake doctors real friends with Zaken Donald on the iheartradio. APP APPLE PODCASTS and wherever you get your podcast. Hello the Internet and welcome to the San Francisco nightly, Zaid Irs. that's the play on forty niners Pantley Johnny Davis Okay I see you. Win Good thing they didn't win. Save saved. Yeah, it's a good thing. Under the. Because, it was already there. was already in San, Francisco whereas Kansas City. It's not even there yet. Right if they had a big super bowl celebration in the city of San Francisco probably would have been a lot worse for outbreak. Anyway, it's weird how those those little things have knock on. Going ex. Miles I'm jack by the way good to meet you. Know. Smiling face over zoom. Nice to meet you as well good to meet you sir. Let's tell the people what is trending right now. Bill Clinton holding albums would is. This about it's a meme. Allow me to take you on a journey of this team. Just just like on four twenty. Oz was seeing a lot of this. It's like this image of Bill Clinton. feel a great here holding albums and listening to something, but people started like photo shopping other albums into it so this Guy Jay Bilas donuts with kind as college dropout. I would say in the background someone of my tastes. WHO's like a phrase like you? Sample based HIP hop? But yeah, this is sort of a lot of articles on like how to make your bill. Clinton me or whatever? And it's like supposed to be your top five albums or your top three. How many albums are in the picture? You can fit like four invisibly. Apparently just an APP bt dubs. Producer Danell just let us know puts the Alps in their automatically. Yeah, that's the thing. I'm like okay I guess that's what we've gone to. Where people search a meam to then find if someone has already made a technology for you to participate, because you have absolutely no photoshop skills like I, remember when the life of Pablo album came out. My my friend designed a website I, mean he's like. Like a really gifted designer encoder like that day, he just made a website. Where you can type in any phrase, it would just generate a life of Pablo album cover for you based on the Texas so this is kind of where we're at with like memes and shit where it's like someone will do more even more work to allow everybody to participate in the economy God. Bless the Internet. and Bill. Clinton appears to be enjoying what he's listening to in the picture. That's that's an important detail. Is it four twenty base because he smoked pot, and we think that's Hilarious I could just be one of those wonderful coincidences that the universe shot s with. God bless the universe you know kilmer is trending because he has a new book out. Yeah just I see a lot of. Headlines with different anecdotes, something about how he never barked in a top gun jet like many of the other actors did whenever they had actually get in the jet and film any like interior cockpit stuff he's he was all. There's just apparently it's like people were saying. It's a really I don't know it depends on how critical the critic is, but most of you're saying like. It's a really interesting read, and actually really funny, because he's dealing with cancer. So, just kind of his memoirs from you know when you think about it. Super deep career by all kinds. He's done it all seen it all. Yeah, by the way I. What one of the things that I'm most proud of in this life of mine is that I was on a fishing boat one time. At a with a bunch of my college friends. For a bachelor during Bachelor Party and I think I was like one of two people on a boat of like. People that didn't throw up. The Sea was so rough. So non vomiting pride I see VAL kilmer. The. Oh do you normally just not get sick like your stomach doesn't turn I think spent I'd probably spent more time on boats, and those people, even though I don't spend a lot of time on icees, then one would high-seas yeah to the high seas you land Lubbers. You would know lovers. Also I think I was a little drunk and that helps. That helps I hate rides that are just rely on spinning mechanisms like centripetal Cintra Central, rice and Tra frugal force just to kind of like like gravitron. Those are just not fun like I would always do that like at a school carnival, and then vomit immediately or just feel sick for the rest of the day. Yeah, there's nothing funner adventure like you don't get to see anything. Except the person across from you, this is Kinda sticking to a wall, but? It does just seem like it's almost like a might as well just take whatever that. Stuff is that makes you throw to those ride? Operators who in the nineties had no smartphones or hand held TV's to distract themselves as a bunch of stinky kids like puke inside of a thing like it will be like a hand radio like a radio. Yeah, like a magazine I'm just thinking of you know different times now different times you ever see one of those. Where like the ride operator like one of the kids who's like ridden at one hundred times starts walking around or Starts Yeah SARS flexing on. It's like okay, we. Operated this one a minute. You can go backwards and know when the car comes to do a slick little hop over. I wonder mix tapes like. That of Carnival ride operators. The most irrespon-. Wall just like debt like a guy on the Zipper like walking on the outside of all the Zipper cars like Dude I. Just know how this ride moves baby. There's no anthem. Got No. Here Ma'am Taco Tuesday is trending. This meme continues to evolve continues to be a thing. Why I? Honestly, I don't know why it's just I think probably because more people are cooking. I feel like I. Tell, you something. I see a lot more Katie content from people. It's like one of. And I guess Tacos are easy like you know you're just getting ground beef chicken Turkey Tofu, whatever and then you put in a Tortilla Bloom, and you have some semblance of a comfort meal, but I honestly this reason why put this in here is because it made me think of the case of because I've seen people flex with just whatever they're like. Yeah, it's easy to buy shredded cheese Tortillas, and I feel like I've cooked something, but it is a fantastic comfort food is. John to? And also salsa in their. Pulo hot sauce whatever you want, pull. It put a Turkey slice in there. You know if you're feeling absolutely disrespectful, but the thing is. It's about mash. The way. It's like I. Don't I would never do that, but you know. But. This is the thing we're trying to survive. We work with what we have, but keep that at a at a medium you know. Keep your pan at a medium that way. You can get good cheese melting. You're not crispin up the the Tortilla too much bright ripe. And finally Be Upright. Brigade the comedy theater that. was kind of the second city for a generation of Improv comedians was kind of responsible or at least integrated involved in the Improv boom of the past fifteen years. Announced that they are a closing down their New York operation, so they're being la outfit. Yeah, and I guess with the New York locations are saying are permanently shuttered now. Is Weird to think I. Mean you know for all the criticisms of UC BE? I have a few myself but it truly for a generation of Comedians it. gave, people this like idea that there was one way into comedy, and to do Improv at UC, be got on a herald team or my team, but probably Herald team and from there. The casting directors come in and swoop Yup now that did work for a there was a period when many people found success like that, but then I think as that wore on. It became I. I! Don't know you hear a lot of stories about people who just through a lot of money away on that and we're like all right. It's a lot harder to do this, and maybe it's a lot more selective or insular than I. Thought but still just a I. Don't know it's weird. It seems like a staple business that always asked exist in either New York La. Thing, culturally for New Yorker L. A. is, but yeah, the the talented people I know who came through there. A lot of the time did not end up having the best relationships to the overall institution kind of feeling like it was. A scam. Little bit so. You know the the the big four of Matt Roberts Air or Matt Walsh Ian Roberts. Amy Poehler Matt Besser. Day a lot like a lot of people in the theater like they have so much money like right. They keeping it open, I mean I don't I'm sure from a business standpoint it I guess they're saying it's just not feasible. But you know it's even when you look at that group. How like Ian Roberts? I don't see as much. I thought you and Roberts was on my favorite to like like in UCB and I even mad. Bastards is kind of Super Funny Guy, but if if like Walsh and Amy Poehler. Are the ones that fully broke through, but yeah. Yeah, you're still there lamenting. I think the loss of their the thing bill so remember when I was much younger and seeing the video of amy. Poehler like thinks she was pretending to be a little kid on the streets of New York, and it was really funny, but a yeah like that was one of the first. Things from their comedy troupe. Which was Upright Citizens Brigade and then it became this huge institution. It's also when you watch to as we call it when you watch that first season, the cameos are pretty incredible of like the people who were in the theater like in the late nineties who ended up being extras on the TV show? There's some very familiar faces in there like you'll see like a very young Nick Kroll. and like. Oh, yeah! Yeah all those folks came through there. At least some of them like got their start there. Yeah, well as the comedy writer and former. Guests Max Sylvestry put it now. You See, be now you don't. That rules power well-done Exactly what are eulogy powerful all right guys that is going to do it for this fine Tuesday. We hope you are doing well out there. Stand safe. Be kind to each other have a great night and we will be back tomorrow with a whole episode of the dailies ice. We'll talk to you then. Credit Card that gives you what you need. Now. A low interest rate on everyday purchases and a place to transfer high interest rate balances. 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Case Study Interviews - Part 4

Manager Tools

26:45 min | 2 years ago

Case Study Interviews - Part 4

"What was the manager tools. Case, study interviews, Hartford. Here we go. Chris cast answers these questions. What does the case study interview? What kinds of questions are there in case study interviews? How can I prepare for case study interview? Well, if we want to answer these questions and more, keep listening. If he's not already, we'd encourage you to register for an account and the manager tools website. It's completely free and we'll give us the ability to speak to you directly, but what matters most to you, you'll be signing up for our weekly newsletters and by weekly conference announcements and will be on the list to receive notifications about upcoming events in your area. We don't want overwhelm you with tons of uninteresting information, so help us target our reach out to what matters most to you. Okay. Mark. So last week we talked about case interviews and what they are and kind of basic ideas round that, and today we're gonna talk about what is the base way of what's a phased approach of going through a case interview, right lucky for us just like behavioral and everything. There's a basic approach to handling all case interview questions. What you do step one is you form an initial idea hypothesis away to approach it. I think. Problem is going to be here and not there. Okay. Then you apply a logical argument to that. Basically, a structure or a framework which will talk about then you combine the idea and the are the argument or the framework, and you do an analysis of what the framework suggests about your idea to determine whether or not your idea is right, and it's completely okay if your ideas not right by the way, because you're framework shows you, it's not right, but you go through some iterations to find out which would be supported by the data. You have that that the data is what you're analyzing within the argument. You do some analysis and then you make a presentation. I recommend byu keep this product line and cut costs here. And here's why a data point a or a supporting point a supporting point and be supporting port cease porting de again, I recommend you invest in this product line and make it profitable, don't sell it. Okay. That's the four steps. So what you do, you create that initial idea. And again, it's one that may be right. It's good to get it correct guys. And in many cases, I'll give you an example of one. It's we can increase your chances of being correct because it's simple. But frankly, it's okay if your initial idea is wrong. Because your analysis will show you that it's wrong and you won't get dinged for having the wrong initial idea. You would get dinged for having the right initial idea and then cherry picking data's support that that would be bad. So it's not, as I said before, it's not about getting the right answer as much as it is proving that you have the skills to get that right answer over and over and over again. And the skills are primarily in the analysis and in the framework you choose, and by the way, if I idea is wrong and you've drilling down, you're gonna be able to show that you have disproven what your first idea was, which is important. If you're gonna meeting in the guy says, I don't think you're right about that. I think this is true. So actually, no, I looked at that and here are the things that support the idea that that initial thoughts this, which by the way, Bob is totally reasonable. I completely. I mean, that was one of the things I consider. But if you look at this data here, all of these data's suggests that that is. Not in fact true. And now suddenly have one more convert in the room when you're making your presentation, and if your first idea is wrong, your second idea is that much more likely to be right because there's one less wrong answer to choose from and guys you can absolutely survive just fine in a candidate lead case interview. If your first idea is shown not to be the right lever that you need for a solution you're you're, you're shooting for is you do more and more cases you're going to get better and better at forming your initial idea. So look, let's give you some confidence here. Here's the question. We're losing a hundred million dollars annually in this product line. Why? And what should we do. You probably can already figure out. That this problem been nalysts of this has to possible initial ideas. Again, I'm going to say it again. We're losing a hundred million dollars annually and this particular product line. Why? And what should we do? Yeah. So stop the tape. And of course, I'm old. That's why say stop the table. Okay. So there's, there's two, there's there's two somewhat obvious things you could think about here just at those. See, see whether you're right or not. I will tell you one of the lessons I learned in my life and I see it on people's faces all the time. Is this sense that as managing particularly, which is it's sad and that's why there's manager tools, but it's this feeling that other people know something. I don't know. There's some secret knowledge out there that that guy. She knows she's good and I don't know. Nobody taught me that, but she went to the right school or she has the right background or her mom was the entrepreneur, and she sadder Nian learned all that stuff. Whatever. I mean, one of the biggest detriments to the kinds of decision making you'll do for the rest of your life is the idea that there is a right answer. And then second to that that somebody else has it that feeling you have of not knowing everyone has that everyone does now. Look if you've been a consultant for ten years, you know how to approach this, but they don't know what the right answer is. They don't. So even if you're not a consultant, if you trust yourself and you stop worrying right now, I know what you're doing OEM. Gee, what what should I tell them do? That's that's a pretty big citizen. You'll soon figure out if you just trust yourself. It's like that movie willow. I quote it all this love that movie starring Val Kilmer you're soon gonna figure out the initial idea is pretty straightforward. If you're losing money in anything, either your revenue isn't high enough for your costs are too high. That's it. It's either a revenue problem or cost problem now you might think, no, it can't be that easy, but it is. And in fact, we don't have time to go through them in this cast. We're just giving you a high level overview, but there are a number of analytical frameworks for different business problems that we're going to share with you in the years to come. I know somebody just said years. I'm like, Nope. Sorry, guys, we we have a long lead time, and that's part of the reason why the casts are free. There are a number of frameworks. There's a profitability frame. Homework. There's an acquisition framework as well. And yeah, you don't know that stuff, but once you learn it, it's in your back pocket. And then there are people guys who know the framework and can't apply as well as some of you can because they're not smart enough or they can't communicate about it or they get bogged down in details and so on. So in this particular example, guys, you either have a cost problem or a revenue problem. And if that sounds overly simple to you, it's an important lesson for you because many case studies boiled down to cost or revenues and guys a little more help on the way trust yourself here assume you're a superstar at this. You're thinking costs or revenues carrying ask yourself, just trust yourself for a minute, which one of the two is it more likely to be all things being equal, which they never are? If you took a thousand cases and you did an analysis, is it a question of revenue or is it a question of costs. And hopefully you're came up with cost. It's not always right, but it's more likely to be right in this case that if you have a profitability problem, you have a cost problem only go back in, let's say something else. The interviewer is not terribly concerned that you chose the wrong initial idea as long as you're in the ballpark and no. And that particularly in this particular question, you don't know it's its revenues or costs. Right? I mean, even some people in ice cool. No. Well, I don't know. I got revenues and costs. She knows the interviewer knows that you're issue tree your your framework and analysis won't bear out. We have a cost problem here. If the data that she's going to give you, if you ask for the right data to analyze it doesn't bear that out. So it doesn't matter. You could flip a coin and say, every other case interview that's profitability based, you could say cost and one Reverend another pretty soon you'll figure it out. And again, if you're Nelson. Good and your initial hypothesis reasonable and you don't have time to get to the final answer. First of all case interviews are notorious for being open ended on time. So if it takes you four hours where it took somebody else three hours because they guessed the right one doesn't matter doesn't matter at all. They may get a low score. You may get a high score because you're so smooth about how you do it and you present it so. But going back to the point I made threes in why slightly more likely you have a cost problem is the market gives you assuming there's competition, which generally speaking. That's true. The market gives you pricing guidance. If you're pricing, seems reasonable. And again, it may not be then costs are probably the issue and the profitability case. And the other thing is costs are completely controlled by you. And again, this is only a probably I'm giving you a rule of thumb that you can use to say all things being equal more often than not if I'm presented with the profitability problem. The framework. Could suggest that it's a little bit more likely to be cost. So I'll pick that one. I, it just increases my chances a little bit. On the other hand, I don't mind if I'm wrong because if the cost analysis doesn't bear that, I'll just I'll go all the way back up to the top branch of my little tree that I created is okay. It's not God, it's gotta be revenue. That's it. Okay. So we've established initial idea. In this case, we're gonna soom it's costs, right? You're going to test it using a framework by the way, these are often called issue trees, because if you, if you were to take one, if I put a hypothesis, let's say, take a piece of paper, a four, eight Naff by Levin Ternate landscape mode, not portrait and over on the left side, put down profitability and then put two branches going to the right, but not very far in one says revenue one, Cisco. And then analyze each one of those what kind of revenues we talk about. You got price per unit, and we've got number of units sold, which is overly simplified because there may be a number of products within the product line. And then on the cost side, you've got cost per unit and number of units sold and cost per unit. Just off the top of my head guys and has fixed cost variable costs. Don't be worried if you don't know that if you're twenty five years old and you've never had a business class, you're an engineer, fine. You're a developer, you don't know that you will, but they call him issue trees. Because if you were to take that landscape piece of paper that is getting that has branches on it more and more branches as you move further, right. If you rotate at ninety degrees counterclockwise it looks like a tree. That's why they call it issue Trie. There's an awful lot of terms of art in business that essentially allow those people in that area of business to send a message that you're not one of us, but really, it's just a framework or a logical. Argument to analyze is it costs or as revenue? That's all it is color whenever you like it does look like a tree, but when people say issue like, oh God, I don't know what that is. Probably if you were given this problem in a in a classroom and weren't told you were doing consulting problem, you could say, well, one of these things and here the things that go into those things. So I need analyze these five things. So the logical argument basically says, okay, got a profitably problem. I needed side, which the two it's in. I've got some sub areas and each of those two, I gotta look at each of the areas that support the issue of cost or the issue of revenue and see whether or not have got a problem there, and it may be that your first layer of analysis doesn't show you anything that it appears Copacetic because the averages that you're getting from the interviewer and I'll come back to how you get those in a minute up here, fine. But you know, if you have five product lines and three of them are making a lot of money and two are losing a lot of money. It appears the product line is losing the product lines that all form together in this aggregation of products that we call TV's maybe. It appears that it's losing money, but that doesn't mean every product line is losing a lot of money. Maybe only the initial, the brand new est. TV is losing a lot of money because you have a price war going on or whatever else. So you may have to drill down further into individual product lines to see it. And there might be two or three or four or five nodes at one level and three to four sub knows at each one of those. And you might start thinking, wow, Mark, there might be twenty nodes I'd need to look at. Yes, there might be, but analyzing each node is basically the same. You get the data. We'll talk about that again in the second and you look at it and it's a fairly straightforward analysis. They're not gonna give you a hundred pages of spreadsheets. They're not okay. The whole point of a candidate lead interview. Can't it lead case is your going to analyze it? And then you're going to ask about various things in order to avoid bullying the ocean, saying, give them all the cost and revenue data. I'll stack it up here on the desk. And I'll work on it for a month. You're not gonna have that much time. Now, let's continue the example. We mentioned the profitability problem. So it actually does have a framework called the profitability framework. And for the record guy's licensees we'll be able to look at their show notes here and see a profitability framework really simply profit is at the left of the of the logical argument, the only two branches to the right or revenue and cost revenue branches. As I mentioned, price per unit and unit number of units sold cost branches into cost per unit. Number of units sold costs, further branches, as I said, fixed and variable kind. What happens next in our high level example, here is critical to understanding candidate lead cases. Let's say you've got up profitability problem. You suggested your initial idea is you have a cost problem. You don't know it yet and you're not worried about being wrong. Hey, guys, high seas. I love you. You guys who are perfectionist. This is where you struggle. You. Don't want to come up with the wrong hypothesis. You guys who were high seas and engineers, and perfectionist, and analysts, and so on and like dot in your eyes and cross your t.'s. Another way to think about this is this is an experiment. You're not worried about getting the wrong answer. Scientists love getting proof that their hypothesis wrong. It's one less thing they have to check provided. They did it rigorous analysis and and have hived off the things that aren't impacted by this particular ipod SIS. Okay. So don't worry about being wrong. I just guessed I said, okay, we'll do cost again, flip a coin. That means according to the framework that we mentioned, you either have a unit sold problem or have a cost per unit problem. But again, you don't have any data to know which it is, but the interviewer does. This is when you have to decide what to ask for, you'll say something like this could be a cost per unit problem. Do we have any information on cost per unit? And you'll get one or two answers? Actually, we do here you go, and that's a good sign actually because they don't have all the data for every branch. Every node of your framework, the only have data for the things that are relevant because again, they don't want you learning how to boil the ocean. If in fact you had decided you were going to do a revenue analysis. And again, this is just one of many different frameworks that you would learn about and we'll teach you more in the years ahead. If you had said, I think we have a revenue problem. Do we have any data on revenue on types of units and prices? Actually, we don't. Okay. All I just eliminated fifty percent of the potential problems here. That's not say it's not going to be thorny when you get down to the details going after know how to look at price data and cost data, and so on. But again, if costs are units are not the problem, the interviewer will say something like, I don't have any data about that guys. This doesn't mean your initial idea and analysis thus far is wrong. It means that you're appropriately drilling down into your logical arguments, eliminating potential causes. Remember what I said earlier, if you get the right answer only because you cherry pick three data points and you have an analyzed all the other areas that it could or could not be because you didn't ask for data on that. That is the kiss of death. You will not get another interview from a company even though you got the answer right? Because it proves that you can't reproduce that kind of work. Nobody has that level of business insight. If this were actual work, you may have to look at twenty different ways to segment a particular product to maybe for unit sold. You may have to look at geography and the type of product and the distribution channel discounts that may be being offered. So on the interviewers, attempting to simulate what you'll do for a client, not make you do all the work you would do over a six week client engagement. And by the way, if you're wondering five of those weeks out of the six on that engagement might very well. Well, be spent collecting data on all the ways you could segment unit costs and then analyzing that data. You might think that any halfway decently run company would have that data readily available and guys you'd be wrong because available means I can look at it and analyze it. Now, do they have cost data? Do they have pricing? Yes. J.. Jay. Is it an unusual form? No, that's why there's such a cool thing among CEOs. I needed dashboard. I need. I need the dashboard on my desktop that if I click on any of the metrics, I can drill down and find all the things and doing analysis from a computer in typically, that is a great idea in theory, but see, he, oh, should be doing that and what's more. It's not possible in a billion dollar company. You couldn't drill down enough to find a ha. Here's our problem right here. This sales rep is not pulling his weight until sir. So if they had the data available in a usable form, they have looked at it and knowing the problem with, say, an increase in one component, part price, doodle. Let's just say it's a land war in Asia who knows what causes things. So your job would be to do that, and the interviewer has taken what amounts to the truly relevant pieces of data to help. If you find out when you've hit on something, that's interesting. So you don't ask about revenue and they don't give you every bit of revenue data they could possibly have. So then again, it would take four or five hours and if you spent four or five hours analyzing revenue, you wouldn't be wrong. And when you discovered that it wasn't a revenue problem, you could eliminate that as a problem and then you'd know it was a cost problem. That's often why consultants keep ungodly hours. Because knowing the right question means, then we have to gather all the data and we have to collate the data and we have to look at it and we have to parse it and so on and for the record guys. If you don't like case interviews, if you don't get excited about drilling down and figuring out you won't like being a consultant anyway. Okay. In a belated effort to make long story. Short, the analysis portion of the process after your initial hypothesis or idea, whatever is the process of this drilling down through every branch of your. Tree framework, whatever attempting to either prove that a branch isn't relevant, it's not the cause of our profitability problem or that it is relevant and it's driving the unwanted results or the issue we need to solve you get through each part of the argument again by asking for data or information from the interviewer. Now, look, you are expected to be familiar enough with the form of business reports, financials, valuations cash flow statements, those kinds of things, and many of you listening full disclosure, no offense. This is true of me and Mike as well. Don't know how to read a balance sheet. Don't know how to read a PL and maybe even don't have no don't know how to do a pivot table and that's okay. But those are opportunities for you to learn. Okay. In basically all that stuff tells you, okay, you're analysis tells you which areas indicate problems in which one say, no, this is pretty Copacetic over here. Once you're now is done and maybe you've proven your hypothesis or in the first part of your analysis, you disapprove your initial idea and now you're going back up and now you're going down the other branch. And now you've found where the problem is you within present. K. typically what that means is in a case interview or therefore an strategic consulting role or for that matter, any person presenting to a senior group of executives, a recommendation or the inverse salt of some analysis. It starts with a recommendation. We do not do analysis just so we can educate people on the analysis. You have to synthesize, synthesize that analysis into a recommendation. Okay. So you have a recommendation followed by some supporting arguments and then a restatement. Of your recommendation for the record guys. You do not in a case interview or in speaking to senior executives go through all the steps you went through in your analysis. I mean, when I say that, I'm sure Mike is like, oh here. No, you couldn't do that to me. Okay. You certainly don't tell a story about each step. I've told the I've told people this before the worst Email. I think I ever got. I answered it. I helped the person post Mark. I want to tell you a story. Yeah, joke and I say, yeah, I want to shoot myself in the face and please don't tell me the answer to the very end. I want to experience the whole process of listening to an hour and a half story just guessing every step of the way what the bottom line is because that's dramatic. And that will make you really be leaning forward. Somebody told me once the total dollars that are spent in an hour long meeting at corporate headquarters of CEO of billion dollar and three or four or five of her staff. You know how much that is if you count it in terms of revenue to the firm is probably six figures. So yeah, we don't want sit. We're not paying you to give us a dramatic story a of you if you don't like admonishing you about this kind of stuff, just just imagine what it must be like to be my mother because my mother is Martin knows tends to still tell stories, and she absolutely knows bluff bottom line up front. But just generally in our conversations, I say, mom, after about thirty seconds of the stories, mom doing the bottom line up front then tell me the stories, so funny. Yeah, so look guys, they're probably high dis. They don't want to be told about the storms at sea that ship went through. They wanted to win the ship came in. So you make a recommendation, you support it with the key points from your now, and then you restate your. Manasian people love it. I mean, that's what I want. Don't tell me how long it took the long. If you impress me with how long it took that costs me more money. If the client or interviewer wanted you to expedite a particular supporting point, urinalysis major ready to do so and you address it. Now, guys, we'll have more guidance on making recommendations to senior executives in different guidance which you can safely assume applies to consulting jobs, and therefore, to case interviews because case interviews, Arbeid real interviews for consulting jobs and senior analytical jobs, strategic decision making jobs for businesses. And again, we'll have more in the years ahead about case interviews with examples. We've really like it, and I've been wanting to do this for a long time, and I'm glad we're able to do it to be clear. There are a lot of frameworks that you learn to think about how to analyze business, even if you never become a consultant, even if you never get a case interview, which if you're interviewing internally and your. Company, you probably wouldn't get knowing those frameworks knowing, for instance, the rule of seventy two. As an example. Those things are good skills to have and his party of professional development and insofar as podcasting allows us to do it over the years will help you do it excellent folks. If you feel like there's more there is and we're doing our best. I don't know. We've gotta be at three or four parts of this show right now, so yeah, exactly. So let me just summarize if I can't guys case interviews are a critical part of the interviewing world, even throw us for very small portion of jobs. If you're going to go into an MBA program, knowing how to handle cases, we'll give you a leg up on your fellow students or if you're smart, you won't worry about the leg up. You'll want to help them and you'll win points as a team player, which is a good thing. Excellent. Thanks befriend. Rashid my pleasure Parker. Right everyone. We'll see you next week. So.

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189: How Not to Get Divorced with Sam Pamphilon

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189: How Not to Get Divorced with Sam Pamphilon

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You're always kind of involve if you're married. This is foreshadowing. Married Have Kids. You are always going to be connected to that person via the kids mean Steve It's like the things that we did our the babies the horrible ugly forgotten baby. As we always going to be forever in a way a pair right whether we're doing something actively or not right That's a lovely. I mean that was what I said that I felt that was horrible and scary. No. Forever linked this. Met Him linked to this man forever Shane is chained fair enough. Well, I didn't hear the last podcast you run you Sam Pam. I'm Sam Pump Fulham. Correct. then. You say what you do Yeah, I didn't. Say You sexual preferences we don't. Sexual. PREF. Preference issued preferences the preferences. It's just preference. You're choosing. Yeah. Can Sex how always? Really means not. Gender and Sexuality Oh yeah. No I mean know what you like. Rain. Up The bat way around. I think my favorite is sixty six. That's just cuddling. fooding. That's sixty six I can't on. These kicks. Release but also apart from. Backside of course, offs straight. Looking. Young cuddle. Is You cuddle? spooning. Like on. Frosty in the relationship an eleven. Yeah Fair enough. Yes. What'd you do for a living or something well before? The Times. The Times. Working as an actor on writing comedy show for Edinburgh. Got It all nearly done and I just I our preview going really well and lockdown happened and I thought you know what could be a great time it's going to be great time. So what happened is my? Ex Wife, she took the boys up Yorkshire down figured they'd be in the countryside with their grandparents a ride on tractor. They're gonNA love it at been stopping to to both flat halftime in London who the let's do that. Then that nine weeks. But. The idea was a good time that the kids and then I can really hone show and you know I'll do what do all. Broke on online only fans came to me said hey one only fast. You've made money. I'll do that I'll do shows and had planned out and I didn't do fucking any of it. My inspiration for one of. My ambition just dried up because it just became about. What we having for lunch and are we doing squats today? Let's go for us, state-sanctioned walk around the power. And I saw started living this quite so North Korean lifestyle. Yes. I really into but the album was go online and people like, Hey, what's my new BBC podcast thing like half fuck you guys. Want, that Bags like, Hey, I'm just really using this time to think about my mental health Joe I'll have to come off twitter and facebook deal with no never thought I would was always on twitter always just checking sang. Just dissolving. Morale Yeah. So by coming off social media stopped comparing myself as my therapist said benefits quotes. Comparison is the thief of Joy Yeah which I don't think she made that up but it A. Big Book that those people have that have. Stock does a Samantha Fox News. In another podcast the other day but she When she comes. On the podcast now. Put Us these thirty day and I was talking about the video game Samantha Fox Strip Poker which I'm sure you're familiar with from the yes. So I was talking about Sam Fox and they were not. That and I was like you know who Sam Fox's. I'd never felt. So well, she was the first woman to win the Booker Prize you. Didn't if they believe me. But you honestly have never been very good at. Steve Martin comedy partner is very good fan engagement or viewer engagement and streams and does well, that's the whole point is you maintain a relationship these people. I try and maintain shit with my girlfriend and my kids Um. And I don't have I'm just not that relentless I think to be kind of an Instagram, a person or regular podcast person or influence a person or streamer you need to have this relentless drive to to do it. Yeah. No one is asking you to do it and I don't have that especially if you're not with your partner and you're on your own because we did, you think what's was coming in every Friday night where at half eight, we would do winstrom show for half an hour I never missed fuck you. One our stoker's. Hecklers. Boys think you like milk at. Your Grandma's dead. unanimous. Because it's so true. She was one hundred. Innings boys tell you. It was so funny the point where we can make jokes about it. You you teasing their own people. Yeah. So I, I. Really I enjoyed that. But yeah, there were. So you'll notice that. I'm forty three boys and very sorry it's hard if you haven't gotten. Much never person that I'm obligated to do something then you know. The acting yeah because someone. You do this. Well, okay. I'll do that. Well okay. Now you can do that on the Cameron you go. Okay and then some of those you have to be here then and this person's going to take you there. They'll tell you when it's ready. All you gotTa do is do that thing that you realize doing, which is the pretending yes. Someone else who's going to brush your hair and pain? Your is an Alexa. Got Right is not the stuff you get money at the end of a year and they have to pay you with certain amount of time. It's it's almost like it's functioning industry. Yeah. Whereas the other stuff that is so holistic where you have to do everything I'm never going to be across it. I'm a good partner. Yeah, I'm not. Saying be Ole Bay when my favorite quotes from absolutely fabulous is that you can't have two racehorses in the pen they'll kick each other to death. So you need a lovely appraisals in a donkey. gratings. Schwab. Donkey. Happy to be the don't the donkey. Comfy. Sometimes. Massive donkey giant. Loose flapping prophylactic people. China's. Thought really comfortable. With the meals. Carry the weight yes. But we do it well. I WANNA say Elliot's a therapist she is the show Horse Gymkhana. Top patio door to they wear. 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Cushions cushions and mustard. Yes. That's choke colorblind. Sometimes with yeezy pretension? No, we've talked. Teach me about my blindness I be a jet pilot because of it. Not The only reason that he's not talk onto. Yeah. Yeah. Those actors who oh God I keep getting. Being taught guns. Just. Talking to was a very good reason if you seen balcony. Cancer. Another thing I'm saying, that's why. I say on what else take the piss out of your color blindness you can take the piss out Val kilmer he's counting here. He does this. He's basically break. It's fine. Hecklers Coming Mommy's fried. Monotonous data. Falcon padlocking. Although. In the film Hey, this is the me. What's the film he again, right? He's called one big elbow. It's go one really long sticky oboe really unbelievable fucking joking giggling at home if you're listening to this calculus elbow. Heat. Gun Oboe is on mom. Yeah. Four when it's bent tangle goes further. than his. Suck. Hang he's like he's wearing a suit of armor just might made out of elbow skin. We can calculate soundbites indie film that fracture you she. Found kilmer's Alvar I'd probably. Taking the PISS UP. A terrible comment about volcanoes? Life threatening illness not funny now. That I did about that I, wish hadn't. He's he gained a lot of weight. That's Because the volleyball thing would be awful him Oh fattened smoking through a hole in his neck. I think they should and they should put you in the voting. Because I'm. Still. Not Men in that May. Have a similar sort of gelatinous failed to my midriff. Could've been. Is Still Oh. He's condition always he's just always perfect. Awfully Tom Cruise. A bad word about him. Very. Same view when he comes out. In one hundred fucking is. Protected by the alien. Spaceship. Blood, he's been drinking or whatever. They do not freaky blue building. He would you? Know. is on building. Should we should we get into the nitty gritty thinks I. Let's see. Some feels like we've already got. Lung Crown. He's done nitty. Gritty right? Okay. So you hear a couple of years ago and since then things have changed a bit in. Your. Life. We would say like me you and now single-parent. Yes. How about? Yeah I mean well. On the kind of very lucky single parents. I. Met My partner current partner yeah. On bumble. About a month after me, my wife separated she's quite soon. Yeah. Did Lie to her and say it was at my partner. That she's that to the happens. Quite a few months. Five weeks. That's very fresh. Yeah. But you know as the relationship deteriorates, it wasn't like a fresh wound. It was more like we were caught to rising the stump. We'd give it up on reattached. Vitamin E. Cream. Helping Aloe on their Celeste burn the end. It's a lovely metaphor. Marriage. I said about Val kilmer. Tradition. So I've been very very lucky that my parents parents, my children meet my current partner. Until smooth six months yet like kept it. Separate a also I had to live with my ex wife for over a year. because. What happened was is we separated and then we went okay well, I, guess we have to. Sell the house yeah. Took fourteen months I K. Now neither of US could afford like no. Traditionally, it would be the man's role to go and get. Horrible flat, and then build sad data Christmas in it. Yeah. But I couldn't afford to do that. So what happened is I slept on a couch. For Year over year no you about a year. But then you know when I was at home looking after the children I would and. I'd sleep on the couch or I would sleep in my marital bed. My wife would sleep with her partner at the time or she was sleeping the loft. So we kind of have this weird system going on where we would always try to have. If it's your children home, the kids and the other person is elsewhere. Sometimes those things overlapped. Yeah. You ended up sleeping with her partner. I had sex with her. But one time actually I did. So we were getting in this modern rhythm where. Weaken. Minimized. The last minute does it was in the my Ex Wife and her partner in the loft room upstairs and I'd gone my stuff was awesome ourselves Russia on toothbrush up stairs. And I was upstairs and. Sleep I'm brushing my teeth I. Look in the mirror and Kinda go. This is his toothbrush. Oh Jesus. But This one, this one, one story, which I never want to put into moustache and I haven't. Done it yet because. There is no doubt. Share. But there was one day. So we were trying so hard the beginning to be civil we really working at it and for that we succeeded. Civil there was a period after his really broke down announced. It's better again. Yeah. But at one point Car was working they put two more battery in it. So someone was coming to from the. People and they come, Hey, become as jumpstart car but my partner was my ex wife wasn't going to be there. So she got she said to her partner. Could you? Meet the man he's GonNa fix the car and then drive the car around. For an hour to make sure the batteries jar and he said fun I said Cool I was I away I was like, okay that's that's fine. Also then she must have said look. My boyfriend. Wasn't going to stay over last night but has the he's got to go to work and he spilled something. He's close. CAN HE BORROW? Pants socks. and. I said. Yeah that's fine. But, then I suddenly realized that at that moment. There was a man. Who in a bed with my wife? Fox, my wife. All right. Sorry. Funny. All of my clothes. I was driving around in my car. Perfect. Won't the? Female but we. Do Nothing. It's totally he's just being incredibly helpful. Yeah. He's been nothing. Nothing but civil unhelpful ready. Have you told? The story of the time you went to your now ex husbands house. With his mother yes. The first time I met. My exit parents they quite the quite. Loud And I arrived in Nineteen Unit and I was wearing all charity shop clothes you know basically, close tight. Anyway. So. She said Oh Halen are we've got some friends coming over? Can you just pop up stay with me and so I went upstairs and she had laid out several different outfits of her clothes on the bed and she stood at the door and then said, just pick one of those outfits and come down when you're ready. Make what was I meant to do. You are very young, very young and I was like all right I'm trying to make a good impression on these lovely people. So I put on his mum's closed. Walk downstairs like wearing like this freely. Just. Remember him going what the fuck. Wearing your moms close and he's like why I was like I. Don't like. This as Being presented to their friends but these things happen and then you went outside and not the best sex of your. Life. People. Now, that's the stuff. Mummy. SPRITZ on their. Perfume it. POTPOURRI. Christ I think is quite an unusual because when he was I talking about that and you were saying and we lived in the House I, paint knock before we got married we split up for a bit and we live together in the same house because we didn't have another partner in the House I, thought you meant that your ex wife going to stay with the partner because after a while what happened so It was always kind of either meal go who didn't have child juicy. We'll go stay at someone else's house. Maybe. Just the my partner, and then after a while, what's got introduces the kids she would stay over. which is very weak because we would always come in and have to wash the sheets because you realize other people sleeping in the bed and it was very uncomfortable like we would much prefer to. Stay hers but we couldn't have the kids at her if I were to see her and I had the kids CESCO of to mind. But there were a couple of times where. In the house collecting something and I might have heard. I didn't say. I did hear something wants and I remember thinking. I don't remember hearing it like that. I think he's doing something I wasn't. Always, dress up and his MOM's clothes. Yeah. Yeah. That last smell of. Lilies and would you I mean you didn't have a choice time but having lived through that situation did you did it work? Was it? No. I don't think. I don't think divorce or separation works I. Don't think I think it can be mitigated. So they're going to be times that we've had auto flare ups and oven saying therapists He's been incredibly helpful. Get this. She works with people who can the industry and she charged me such a light and then when she went out of my work throughout locker lockup lockdown, she's been cancelling me for free. Wow absence saved my bacon because Just dealing with your ex partner who can push buttons like no one else. Realizing just sort of type with it and deal with it and It's changed my outlook on it and a lot. Khanakala. GonNa make a joke about kind of having some massive matlock sag last. Go bad again because that's one of my issues guys guys tend to I tend to downplay myself the. We'll. Probably for. Up. At, some point. But. It's interesting when I announced I was separated during lockdown are a lot of people sorriest. Donald Trump. Just. Just seem. were. So. Interesting you mentioned about having to live with your partner during separation because when I announced separate during lockdown. So many of our listeners and followers on instagram saying I got separated during because I, think it was that sort of pressure cooker situation and so so I'm sure there's lots of people listening now who had to live with their partner knowing that I was separated. House because I was forced to stay in my ex wife for forced together stay together for fiscal reasons. Yeah. But we weren't housebound. Par could still go and how we didn't. We didn't see each other a huge amount just hand handover and stuff and but yeah, I can imagine it being I don't know what we me and my current my curtain tiles curry powder that sounds forboding isn't that like My presence. We already got a couple of times a week, and then then we're living together and then we're into lockdown and so we went from. Few hours a week to all of it. Now, looking back thinking. I could have gone really wrong. That's a big risk accelerated your relationship. Then it's gone gone relationship boot Glen Yeah I. Guess. So there's driving things like you can drive in seven days. Takes ages to drive to it but no. I. Think we're kind of more solidified. We're kind of we've been through all rough and tumbles and we've had a couple of rows and we've we've definitely definitely put our finger on what what will my problems are. They are many and varied. Yeah we're really tight. It's really good. What's known as well. Rounds. I remember talking to a friend who's quite young and he was about to get married and he was like I said I'm really happy for you. Yeah. It's not great and you know we just got and say, well, we've never had a round. With those people that they'll never be around. So there is around and then off that row, one of those people is dead. It'd be the same. And then and then they did have children and and then he was like, yeah, we we brown not more now. Yeah. Isn't it. You gotTa have a what what. I didn't have. With. My ex was a way of we did not communicate healthly. So, was very much her way or no way and I would be like, fuck you I've got some opinions and I don't know how to express them but three hunger, and so there wasn't really a good way to communicate. We couldn't get stuff sorted. And both of us were left with. Eissa last week for me I was left resolve huge resentments. My felt very kind of. Rejected and unheard and. Now, I'm in a situation where I don't look at me and go. What's in there nothing should like what is it and I can say I'm not going to get someone guy well, fuck you. You shouldn't be like that. You know someone who has heard very early on all my deepest darkest she knew everything that happened in my marriage already see putting out on the table. Right away plus when I met her I was a complete fucking mess. So it's quite easy in the state that I was often in to being credibly open and honest because fire. Fox hard for that must be on for a lot of people because that's very you make yourself very vulnerable by dingle that yeah. But I mean at the time I was like, well, I'm not going to have a relationship here. The reason why you don't WanNA relationship with me. On doing this currently and like these things and this is what's happened in my marriage so Do you know just lead together and that's cool and then, and then somehow despite that said, I would like ownership and I went no. I'm going to break up with you because I'm a free spirit I meant was I wanna get drunk on my own for three more weeks. So then. She was off to play. and. And I went and did what I thought was my thang and it lasted maybe a week and a half. Called her and I said I. Miss I. Miss You. Lies. Wakes. Think. With pay. For it because we have this on and off. For married, knowing that we have this on and off thing that so eventually culminated in May Gang I. Know you know and finding US game. We agree not to even see each other as friends for. You know friends. Sex Friends. Friends who couple. Six hundred sixty nine yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we have more sex not year we were split. Up. Let's say that contest Stein not what are we doing? And Yeah and yeah, he was supposed to not for months and after three weeks he turned up basically he'd had enough of a special cigarettes. Yeah. Just saying that and drinking out of measuring jugs because you to wash your mouth. A lifestyle. It turns out you were bringing something to the table could not be replaced by him alone. Yeah. They went there and he was literally drinking of measuring Jug. And I was. Doing, and he's the monks jetty and I was like no. That's not why. You're not identifying the problem. What's the best mattress for you? If you're an egg or a kitten check out the competition. But if you're a human person, put your body on the nectar mattress as well as award-winning layers of comfort, you can sleep easy knowing you've got incredible value mattresses start at just four, hundred, ninety, nine dollars, and you get hundreds of dollars in accessories thrown in as well as three, hundred, sixty, five, night home trial, and forever warranty. Go to nectar sleep. Dot Com. So you'll. See you down a couple of years down the line. Yeah. So we we sort of met in November two, thousand, eighteen. So. Nearly. Two years with the simone nothing at the beginning. Yeah. So so you're bit you're bit closer to the star. Any advice for Helen on getting. Getting through the separation. Of brief chat before I think I think your way ahead of where I was because I was delusional at first. I was like we can do this. So cool. So. Cool We can totally talk about sex and starve and it's fine I. Want you to be happy and then she she'll say this guy, this guy's got a great day GonNa be like don't tell me. Any of those things I would I don't want to hear it ever. I I the love is gone I. I still have your Osama breaking down saying. I know we're breaking up I said, but you're still my wife it still feels like. Wasn't there yet. Other. Day about mandate light to hear about you talking about having sex with other men. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I mean. I don't mind it I. Don't mind it sexy situation Oh that's fine. Okay. Tell me about things you've done. That's great. But in the very rare situation that we've been married. We've just broken up I don't WanNa hear about any guys, dicks. How else was I gonNA find out that. You get that from books. You get that from Santangelo yeah. Kim podcast. Yeah, yeah ours. Is however however cool. You think you being so we did that but then we. Realized quickly. The animosities that we had an baggage that I had wasn't going to go away just by in fact, he's going to be amplified because now I don't have to try make up with you actually can just be angry with you all the time so there was lots of that. and. And lots of mean things were said but at the end of the day where we agree on their kids and we buy three love move both get parents to them. And actually the petty bullshit if you can get past it because petty bullshit. Stuff stuff is conscious discount. It's fucking real. Golden Rule is yet you love you more than you hate your ex that is that. Eventually you do. Yeah. Okay Yeah, okay Trade again, the cars I was thinking. I was thinking of things that we talk about our thinking you know yeah you love your kids more than you might hit your eggs. Then how come I prioritize being so fucking angry. Because you're allowed to be angry. Yes. But. Yeah and your life's work is that what you're saying just lying seething working out what kind of wicked legal loyal like fucking whatsapp you can center there was. A huge email. No one could read this and not be on my side. Then, she just wipe out actually I think that's bullshit you. Will Not stand up in court and I've said that. That message is. Not found nothing. Calls. We're just being dicks to each other. And you're working it out because you type angrily which fucking blueberry was drawers. Soft and there's nothing there is haptic fucking feedback. Buttons fucking thought by just got. One Roll up at sticking. His. Neck. This could mean a good place now those. Calm. Still. It's still there. A. Have to talk about this if you don't want to cut out I, remember I think how I found out about the breakup. You did a facebook page yes, you're. King of Johnny and Gorgeous, and it was very quite funny. Sweet statement saying that this happened we're splitting up. It's cool to be friends the manifestos it was. Your press release. Yeah. I mean. Looking back firstly, having done that annoys me 'cause that's very twenty. It did serve a purpose in the I didn't tell everyone I saw you remember seeing people normally. It's the head tilts and yeah. Happy explain people know we separated but we're terms because telling people that you're separated is it's okay for the first few people but then it gets it's just tiring and a pain in the ass and you dislike I don't want to eat don't need to know why. But the issue with came the. A by the time, I would see people they would read the thing we were like, Hey, we just love kids and we're going to be the hey, good turns together and we you know we little love their whole kind of cream g fucking. Aren't we call and choosing a photo in which she got final choice overseas I didn't look as good as dead. Laws. Is that what? You're wearing a SOMBRERO quotable confirmed. There's a couple of we're on pretty handsome. Fumble per hour through the other day. I fucking how. They. Just have to clean jewelry and they're just a bit of paint. Dischord to just like put. Choose another because they've gotten the other photos because that's before the hatred infected as. Remnants of divorce. Get. Them there's obviously four kids and just blocked those out and no children. Like all these people were killed. Difference. The hostage situation is that you get on. Going straight. Oh My. Regret would you advise someone going for it? Is it to what happened was then is people come go hey man I saw union parents but. It's so cool. You guys are so called an in my head I'd be thinking it's not called. Just. Angry all the time. My fucking percents. What's cool about this? He sounded good. Are What? He's got my keys Conley. Book about how not to get divorced yet but I mean I think everyone is every single divorce bay. How not to do? Yes. Dif- different ways. Yeah. You get there. Is wonky little. Say Yeah. Maybe having a goal. The the thing is we started the goal which was for us to be happy together. Yes. Together happy to Co parent and be good for the kids that is the plan. In the middle bit we were like, fuck that ever happening we both said it. This is off yeah we are never getting on. And then you revise it back down to a level of civility. Yeah. You think okay. I. Can maintain not like I'm not going to argue with you. and. I'm going to you know virtually or Walk away from things. The are potentially inflammatory, and if I'm being asked something and I can't do it. On before threatened saying can't do it and just no to you their. Boundary suit wasn't any boundaries then there was all boundaries and now it's kind of. A A. That see where we are. In this, trying to do a bit more maturity. Saying this now, I'll come back on in two years time ago, oh? Yeah. No, she died. Did she. was always to know. Someone did something awful. She's not here anymore. In jail now so That same talking about boundaries last year that did not work I is this how I'm your therapist now I'm not doing mediation. Now you say to San what you've just heard. I think this is really healthy because I think we all have great intentions when we're in that weird shock for the first couple months is to shock you just kind of going what the fuck just happened. I was on one particular path I was like, yeah I'm married to this guy and then the kids are going to do this and then we're gonNA get old and we're going to renovate the house I'm going to. So you you're on one particular trajectory that all of a sudden through sometimes not your sometimes it is your decision you have to create a whole new path. Talks with it's insane because it's like a dying and being reborn someone else. Because everything you thought your life was going to be is now gone. You know you've in marriage of times think ahead of stuff like Jeez. I'm. Fifty That will God you going to do this? So there were lots of PAS. Oh. Shit. All that stuff's opened up again but all that really secure stuff is gone away. You have to buy yourself a whole new wardrobe. Yes. It six and it's scary but he gets he gets less like. Know people die sometimes you're like, oh my God I couldn't even imagine it. Yeah. The dead for like two years he like. Out. About it. For the died you would. Still Again Sat She was the. One, hundred hundred. I am over you know. It's always going to be a thing. Absolutely and. You described it as about a bull in a box. Is that right? Oh? That's not something I. Don't know read that somewhere. Then probably appropriate it sounds as if sounds like most of you. Just rebranded and so I read the same, which is about grief. Nickel of grief in. So. When the when the instant I happen whether it's the death toll, the break-up, the grief is huge ball inside the box and every time the ball touches, the side of the box, and that's pain year, and then over time the ball like moldy line let's say that that's my that's why I'm bringing high. Shrinks. Get Brown and golf ball luckily. Swimming Pool ranks yes and so it hits the signs of the box less often, and so the pain is obviously less but the trick is the smaller it gets also. Forget about it then sometimes when it does hit the side of the box, it's frogs. Blindside you and that is its own kind of thing. What I'm saying is you've got more pain to come guys. That is what I WANNA eat. Good News as a complete surprise. fucking. Welcome. Now I just thought. That's yeah. Surely, it's a relief to know the ball is getting. Yeah it is and it's and it's when they think because you get through bits we speak one day I'm not sad. Sad thing and there are just little milestones that you get. And I'm so happy instead of going what my lacking it's what am I gaining and j the healing process is. Amazing because you can help along but you have to kind of. This thing on the thing is is I was never much for positive thought. And just as he was going to go wrong. And I'm kinda stopping doing that. So you know how you feel about stuff and how you are moment. Yeah you're gonNA, have moments more than likely where you're gonNA go faulkner that really stinks at the moment or that's something new happens or there's a new revelation or someone says something and Shitty of course that's going to happen but you slice stock market it trending upwards trend too. When you look at it over time like a straight line going up and you bring up closer the period of time it's all just like A. Electricity he's going to get. Perspective. You Push IT trends up towards. So you find overtime. Investments Yeah I don't invest in the short term. We're investing long term that it's the long game in terms of boys as well if you got any advice. You, learned I guess from how you deal with kids with all this is how much do you share with them and and how'd you manage it? When you feeding side? You don't feel not being happy today or wherever is sometimes I'm just grumpy daddy but then they'll laugh at me for being grumpy they're amazing I think they're incredibly resilient they talk about. Having to homes, MOM's place and Daddy and Daddy's house. They're desperate for me to marry dotty Emerson keeps, making rings making boxes. Going you have to take Tatyana date. He thinks going on a day is getting married yes. He wants a brother or sister they both do. All this stuff. But. You know. But me and the mummy makes show. You know we try. We try our best to. Have kind of rules. The you know we have some differing opinions on some things. That's okay. It's not the end of the world. But they feel love wherever they are. They don't see animosity they don't hear animosity. The End, the world post me if someone WHO's Arou- It gets cleared up the world. We've, solved divorce. Say though I made jokes on the way like a very cat. Issues, but the boy's mum is a fantastic mom and she only has they're interested in so. I saw referred to as a bitch, but that was kept trying to be funny but she's not a bitch that was just my stay. She's not she's not legal if you are a wanker, you guys. She's not she's not on this podcast. So yeah. There's balanced for. Balanced and fair like Fox. This is the thing is that you can say that your ex is a good dad but still think he's can't say yeah yeah. I mean you wouldn't say. Say is. Yeah. So I did out on Instagram I kind of. What kind of prompted me to come social media as well as I? Had this argument God it's awful story. Okay. This makes me look really bad. As I said time. was. Sort of from go mckellen coming in. Here. She's going to tell you a story about black lives matter. and. So. We went to. Protest in which the boys we have little placards to the boys to Sir hold and it was up analii crystal. Palace. Everyone space. Personally picture on instagram. An my ex wife got me in the way she always gets. Oh. So you on a Bill Maher I was like, yeah, that's completely irresponsible and she told me one about like. Previously. I. Had to go her about not doing social distancing properly. So this is very much kind of a pay about moment but maybe she was genuinely upset I was like it was all spaced Mars is very careful anyway. I then made the mistake. Of writing on another screen post. Beer. March. Then mother was absolutely furious. Oh. By rotating. I wrote it and I was like. I sent I did not write it intending it's either one center I was like. Oh No I was angry. and. Yes. So I made her look like a racist. A racist. She's not why she was crossed. That was probably the moment where I was like that's rock bottom dude and her friends pilot they must we tell each other they didn't even follow. Your Shit. This is so you let people, I. Used to have without this is so you? Off by saying. It was fair enough fair enough and so I took it down I wrote an apology and a lesson apology to her up for twenty four hours, which is longer than the. But my follow like you don't have to oppose guys ready to. Do have to apologize because you can't call it. So if you hate me for the VAL Kilmer Steph. scientologist. Just wait until I. Call My ex-wife a racist for no reason. Thing to do. It anyway, China's at night but then there's bucks. For finding keeper fucking just being honest about now. What we've done ship things. That but we Just like oh Shit that we really regret and you try to make it ruptured repayment the temptation to show and and social media and use it as this kind of tool to engage others on your side like. Whether you do enormously like skis. Me Guys just a poll. If someone said, do you think it'd be completely? which we have both done. Yeah. So I. If I'm doing that in. Any point that's got to stop. Exactly and I I'm very conscious I have a platform and there's lots of people listen to the podcast Melissa style but there's you know I think it's just a match oozing. Yes, you'll get an instant hit why you get an instant lights or what? Yes but what is the long the long game as part on and you feel like a piece of shit? There's people who are your wedding that you really liked. Sloppy mess. Awful. Oh. You learned your lesson. It's never easy as. Documents. Wasn't decided but I thought it's quite nice to book that because. I'm very conscious that I've done a podcast talks about splitting up and stuff. On very try to be. The temptations of his come from your side even if you think you're being balanced. You know balanced. You'RE GONNA kind of pay yourself trying to paint myself in. Rosedale. Out of modesty like. I guess I'm just trying to be humble because. I was as anyone is in a moment's a genuine piece of shits. Actually I never was. Well that's okay but then I'm a genuine piece of shit. To be more shitty guys. You buy still don't keep bank it. Doesn't really matter who did the biggest shits you big floppy. Hat should we should we have a quick scummy mummy confessions shooting you got one for? Your on one of the things I got as a bonus for being separated was two cats because my ex was allergic to cats and I was growing up about that. So I got highly, let's say. I haven't done anything wrong apartment getting getting to animals that make him physically ill. So passive aggressive. Anyway I up in a bit smug 'cause I i. Got Some really nice cats and they're being really great. Okay. Just being. Added that much love. Anyway yesterday just before I went off to the hospital. Of this and don't like to mention it. I was running late and I thought, oh, just check their everything's okay in the house one cat had killed a mouse and put it on. Hugo's rug and the cat had done a sick in Matilda's room on her so. Three minutes of a dead mouse sick drink. The rug sounds like I am not happy with my life choice bad cats. My question is You guys were here for it, but I'm going to share it with listener. So. My husband's just starting to new job, which is very exciting because he's not had a job as a contractor and he was between contracts look down. So he's had no work for like six seven months. So we start this new job just last week and it's very intense and very exciting. There's a big crisis at work today so. I went upstairs to get my headphones in the office which was my office over now it's his fucking office say was just went down. And say, okay, that's fine. So his and he was. About this crisis call zoom call do not do not come in here. Do not ask just just just. Fine the big boss Reimport. Okay. So so about stars and then I realized I'd left a little spare Kauder in the desk drawer and I've got to get I have nothing I can do so back up to the left and then just tried to is quite as I could. Open the door and then I tried to crawl across. I did crawl across the floor to the desk and then I just had someone on this team Coco is that a woman through The cameras that you could just samy crawling and. Go Yeah. That's that's my wife. Yes. Sorry. I'm not. ALLOWED TO STAND UP This is how she must end to old rooms. So yeah. I said that's my name buyers my husband but never mind at Sam Confession for. Have confessed quite enough. implied. My wife was racist. For legal reasons, she is not a racist. Z.. Ladies. Yes well, that's fair enough. Well thank you. Thank you so much for. Being. So yapping honest Mallya. So finally, all the guests have had you like in the top what fifteen? K every done who's going to smolder. Okay, five. Okay lying. Women. No. Angry again. Nearly, would wear off. On twitter. Next time. Joe You. Haven't said man. China yet. Can We talk Zanjan Jonas? This is this is an argument that Salmon I had on television. Can solve it. Ahead I was right. On. The TV show I got confused because you know you get posted on a chicken a chicken chicken egg. Yeah. You Ain't comes out of his bum then. But then you think. Why did you give birth at your bump because? Is sometimes in a chicken egg. Yeah. So must come out the vagina yeah. The CHICKENS VAGINA But then is it shitting on it afterwards that happens mums right the guy. With that. Yeah Yeah. Yeah. It's disgusting we should start doing. Your While you couldn't just go before. 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Leprechaun in the Hood (2000) Green Drinks & Bad Accents

Spoilt Milk Movie Podcast

51:25 min | 1 year ago

Leprechaun in the Hood (2000) Green Drinks & Bad Accents

"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully. Hello and welcome to the spoilt milk movie podcast heritz spot milk. We liked to discuss dissect and destroy guilty pleasure movies. And then we decide whether the film is truly spoilt milk. Whether it's a Senate into fine looks your ES cheese. So without further ado, let's go. Warning who's podcast is full of spoilers for the title feature on this Bod language from the start. If you've never seen the film or your fended by Bob language. You hop in warrant. Why we just lock in that nob-? So we call one Kim. I'm gonna rock not. Nope. Tonight. The next I possessed of the spoils moat movie podcast recording. We adding. The. It's. Same countries. Poetry's screaming? I don't wanna drink this. It's going to be. What was that noise? This woman. Right. Not quite as due to. What was it? Again. Caribbean twist can be in on a beach is really. Like fermented alcohol. Is for child's drink. Come on. Sorry. It was just Bush Matif way. It was just the craziest on also a promotion at work. Relations. The morning by an Irishman. So grand so will lead into the buttocks. So while we're on then. So as always name's John, which by the Hobo sailor. Shots. Good to. Val gave me MRs Doubtfire. There. Hiring. Do you know the difference? Irishmen? Yeah. Kadewe Ryan's accent. Northern Irish kind of that kind of hard not an Irish accent. Say. Sorry, Ryan if you. We this is all we shoot f they should have been livestream. So we all top to discuss before we get into film, which today is what cutting free but accents in films. What Phil movie covering? Sorry leprechaun into hoodoo. Three five accents. I'm gonna go first because I brought one niece Baz. So be interesting to see if you had this. I'm just gonna go for the overall film of Highlander. Yes about that. About that. Because what the folk I kind of get the idea that well, he's called the Highlander and like a big pile of his always being Scottish. Why cost the Frenchman to be the Scottish, man? And then cast a Scottish man to be what Spanish expunged, and and neither of them can do the axon. How might what the folk Sean Connery was still like looking at this mom, Molly was mumbling terrible sky shot in and most just been other give. Well. Sean Connery's ever given a folk most of these ever role that he's meant to be anything of Scottish a Scottish accent is still doing it's still just being I read online the he's never played a Scotsman. What can't be true, I think of roles he was actually Scottish and also I just meeting Jeff move. It wasn't code Alba. You should be something bond specifically needs to be an English Murden is just an English is James Markovi play discussion, though. That one is it fell, Phil. Yeah. We're any his personalities is Kevin Wendell chrome Scottish. It wasn't really think. So you slip one. Himself. Bingo. So yeah, I mean, Sean Connery when he saying the words, I'm Spanish rains. Oh my God. It's just all around and the Ulta Zev on even tried the they didn't need to know back in the day did have internet apron. If people can is. Also had internet in the days. Good internet. Ninety thing that people would listen to say if. Movie stars hear them being a tiny cave somewhere. Yelling each of rats. All you get. That's the equivalent of games workshop. Play more. Yeah. The games. Call. Really quick guys can sleeping outside the door. Let me just drop pigaso insurance. Had those pains have got some good. Fingers. Trump thing. Leprechaun's lapis who's going next? I've got loads of backup. So do. Got it. You go. Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna live life dangerously enjoying this green drink. So showing his gun. I could also have Sean Connery. Why are we doing some sort of Endo's impression? I e. The list. I think I'll go Nick cage in. The buddy back in the bar on every even all being about accent. It's a total accent. Where is he from is? He just fully Los Angeles. She's American than any. I thought it had this role in the film. Where is nNcholas cage from? Nicholas. Last night. Good like from every scene. That's a good accent. I mean, I love it. I love. I hate Connor watts. I fucking hate. I loved it. When I was younger. I had like a six four cardboard co out of Connor the whole gang the front of the whole area. The plane was in the sign everything did you wear out the like mouth holes. There were already. From global video. What can I what? Old those hike really round. What else do you do in a video shoots put book? Chosen Cajun Connor love it, and I constantly about my idea of a drove it's really bad, but the burn they're back in the box. Terrible. That's not how awesome of his the lines. The Buni by does he read really should have. The body. Well, I love that film. Steve Chamisa peed. Kind of upsets me a little bit. Is that's a creepy. Baby advocates segment and he it from his like is like wavy tilt. Deutsche. Only decent Jackson. That's it. That's simple. Simple. Gutsy. So I was a little bit not the Hobo for post in this. Oh, mine was Dick Van Dyke. And Mary refer pens. But why we you posting posted? It wasn't you. Got you. It's like a video and it was like. Name US accents. And it was like a picture of dick dyke from Mary Poppins chimney. Sweep oxen is ridiculous going to Ryan. It was an Irishman when he tries to do any salt of English accent. He sounds like a fucking chimney sweep. All right. Governor people. I mean, we've just done shit Irish accent it when Americans do English accents. It's always kind of same old isn't everything. Great in. In. It's a lot inspired by vandyck service. Who wouldn't do most genetic nourish at matai momentum? It's been popular Serret like Avia head Chris do is English sun, and it's Essex good on ya. It does like a fully Essex. Accent is still at least he gets ago. No. Yeah. It's because we have to soup towels on northern people if it's okay, look like, I probably will come a watching but watching some program and it was on American net flicks. And they add to subtitle someone that would just from like bonds -ly. Awesome. It ridiculous light even mumble. Quite so clearly spoke say well Spokane. Quite clearly spoken. It's like he is so tightly. Bad pain snatch. Yeah. Like like dogs loss. Good Irish accent. Irish well kind of piketty. Peopling Donny who spoke. Oh, I rish Irish. Oko fell Irishman. I did almost because we clearly code one podcast Kevin Costner from mobile pits feves because that was Nottingham. Yeah. It was even. Yeah. I know he was trying to low bits. And but buffet love just seeing Kanner Reeves in from Stoker's Dracula or you're gonna be like in polcy. Fuck you to even forget about Canada. News terror peripherique, I love Canada. He's a good guy. Done some bad films. But he's a good guy. Was it Johnny memo number? Manami Minami, Johnny Manabe. Stinkers? Yeah. He's made some bad failed. Hey, K definitely John wit three hooks to was not good. And I wasn't as good as Fessel nerve. When they always to your rope got the. Autopsy. Think of any kind of good American franchise win. Now gonna go to your upon my usually just goes downhill even benches when the is broke Nicola of we just went downhill. Fucking the rock were in Donny. The. The film. Schol jury's out on that one them. Now, all that's going on. Gated to Jim this fast and furious film of Riera some shit just that one not one because it is an investment because apparently they were important for a bit as well. Ooh. Why that's for call by Rochelle fill Harry Boesch shop. Yeah. That's me. Powerstation awesome. Many power stations a smoke claimed fehb loads of places power station kind of need them. This like six power stations like old like how the big. Chills. Drive in them. And so anyway, we don't need them. So. Yeah. When farms anyway, I'm not no that's our top. Mama's just the cost of Highlander. Cajun. Kathy. My was Dick Van Dyke in Mary Poppins. See you soon to talk about leprechaun into to who. But the spoiled milk movie podcast. Hello. And welcome to this spoke movie podcast today. We're talking about leprechaun in hood county. What said about so what they do what they do. They do and how do how to do? So we've got a group of rappers. Positive rapid. Gruber rappers and. They of pissed off ice tea. And they've got a full blown like grudge against him. And they fucking. Hey, Miller spoke like they hate him. They break into his house and find this weird little statue thing. And then the Knicks, but China gold medallion because of his -ly all represent medallions trying to go things shedding things the golds. And then by doing that work. Davis comes and Fook show us premature we start in like that weird seventy s seen. He's got like enough frozen station, and we still I. Didn't really know. Didn't really know. What was going on? Not. I I was like, well, I didn't really even get. It was supposed to be set in the seventies. I'll ever I is in the whole, man. Contre say and then an answer to it. I don't know why they were in the seventies there in the home. I want to look as one of the faces, but writing that everything that happens in this like it was written by white men middle aged white men who have very bad view on anything is in suburbia so cats to you know, this franchise, I'm speaking on behalf of you Hobo a few. Have you seen any likely going films? Now. Cuts. Have you seen any before? Yeah. Okay. So I've never seen a leprechaun film. Okay. Own most of them. Most of them are how many is that. Is good like five six. This is this is as. With the always like this one other folks up the first one was the first one trying to be because it came out round. That like criticize time was it. Visit trying to be like scary. This. So late in the first one is pretty scary. So the first one it came out of the nineteen Ninety-three came out me get me the same years drastic. Buck. Doc. Let's say. So. Yeah. Ninety three the first one came out. Jennifer annisten completely. I thought it was like eighties now. And then knife four the second one came out canal the route out quick knife five came out ninety six the fall came out. So the false one is left in space. Of course. And then four in three years, and then they give it for years and then brought in the holdout, right? And then three is late. They bro back to the hood. Right. And then in two thousand fourteen there was a w to be we are origins origins thing which was nothing like fucking leprechaun like we had Gullam type guy the one zero something Netflix will miss year. Last year or something because that's why vigil came up, but we should probably do it because. Yeah. Ones just in the last couple of months has dropped. Yeah. I mean, I'm surprised as able to get that many films high production corners Folkston I in the first one is pre is like a little bit scary. You've got this weird fucking leprechaun guy. That's just like throwing shots of people fucking him. All right. And then I think it is just one of turned into like a Tony chain. Kind of this is ridiculous. Let's just one have this same kind of rhyme thing that's going on rhymes celebre electrical of coffee is for movie. If before we see is TV movie opens elect corn explaining that leprechauns, golden if you you know. Stop goes into it. And then I every everything he says is is consistent with consistent throughout the whole franchise for Kane. Rhyme indicators rhymes were awful. The really, paulie. The win. It wasn't like these just rhyme. Vo what he said. It's really good and profound. Deuce to fight rhyme, the word goods withhold, and I might know that just doesn't work econ. Good and hold fine goods and hold. Just doesn't him spoken to do be. So yeah, we get the three main characters don't we we do who are positive opposite will trying to get that positive message across through with the name stray bullet. Yeah. So the straight millet bull on postmaster. Yeah. Who they keep talking about is virgin all the time. Not really sure why. Really know why I mean it was the nineties. But is there any relevant to in being urgent? Does it come back up and help relevance in clueless to be in a veg in a whole of story and the whole power she like sees that guy. And then she's like trying to cheat. Law for Josh comes from the fact that she's trying to lose virginity gets guy. Who's clearly gay has part of her like challenges of getting into as she needs to be this guy. Fucking stepbrother, basically. All to find true love if you will. Can do those? No real reason why this guy has to be virgin spoke about so much is because the polls Irap is. Posted if to be virgin, it's probably just like the thing is an easy joke. Isn't it? Cool. Someone virgin we've got easy joke material, and you don't have to try is I uniform about one. In like the eighties and early nineties. This film's not too old. Is it two thousand two thousand eight thousand twenty years old for hook. Like in the year two thousand a sweet sweet rap. Yeah. Not much changed from the sperm. The issue is is from this film is the first line apparently. Okay. Good from deaf to he sees the leper to. That's a good way. Deftly. He says electric free Staley's gold will also you'll say for many a move legend has grown death. Toll increases solution, unknown beware. The evil wonder in situ, his Lou less you so for the Rafferty's golden flu flee while you come the future is not good for no one is safe from eleven the hood. Why why would leprechauns have I say about themselves is telling people not to set them free. She only if you leprechaun you won't be for either. Look all these glittering goods. I've got Molly. Tiger woods. Very maso. We'd referenced today instantly date big star those times. So we got the robbers and the films. I was out right? Okay. Sit down to watch a leprechaun film. And then he became what about like a step up film all three rappers wanting to make it in the music industry on the how to win a competition. Megan's when do, you know for the first like ten minutes, I was kind of with them, and I was like enjoying the high day or of that journey in them winning this by old conduct bits sister bible, ever cut. You wanna say some every day while the run is right? It says take out take it from you. Hold me. You'll see 'cause you know, the leprechaun is a real. Oh, gee. Remember any called him these old pay foles? And you say, oh, I ten minutes five Vos minutes, just drop it expositions. I, but we need to this. Because we get they literally tell you everything you find out mind of exposition, we saw how it wasn't a bit was they were going. Weeded a script to wrong. And they were like we want to rob in the hood ball be more positive until about a positive message instead of things like guns and roses defy the weird thing, though, is that all went out the window, and Jeff I like the whole message at the film is if you want to get anywhere in life foot, positively I'm rob about Gamez and hose, and I was like, well, why the hell of this? These guys are supposed to be nice guys spread in a spin a positive message in Latin chilly. The good stuff is guns drugs in house. Visit. Paul breakage is t's thing and the Tolkien about the postmaster appears no people this after that tried ripping off store trying to sell them Jimi Hendrix. I'm not your moral, compass is all. To make a living robing literally. Be lying a major banks or something that is. And good hard-working people actually go another drope deliver trying to rope. Mr. chief was it. Fucking crazy done that was about I did logo. Just the back of that guy's head Phages. Acta? The whole show. Never changes. His head is crazy, right? Is going gonna be a veal Ted? It's select. Maybe it was Tiger Woods. I think he was book. Yeah. So what happens next then? So they roll by Steed. They steal is flu and they shoot him. And they think he's dead. Little tim. Post. Most of the P shoots him. By accident. It wasn't by accident gun point, it some more. It's not what you can easily. She don't pick up a. A bigger point is maybe realize the safety was so suit that with my erect penis just in front of this cardboard cutout accidentally fell into. Because I mean your mouth hose. We'll be. So the end with the the fluent and he plays it on eight took a good while for me to get what the flute was about my. He's very clear. He's just I didn't like how low in the sound makes it was they Robin. What is he? What's this is sweet Ricardo soundtrack? If it was a recall recalled in America, straight, British ING, all on Julie's, listen, call the ship flu. Yeah. You you don't play slide like a flu is this shit. Also woodwind. Flew, flew you played side. Yeah. Yeah. I should say more. Cleverness? The recorder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shit. Who to to to church? Was someone does the Jaksic park. Melodic? So they get cell phone that journey then. So what is the the story for these three guys? That they. What? Yeah. Just on the run-up focus the folks up that. Well, I think they've killed my daddy. So that means. So that means I'm asleep like in in the world of hip hop. Someone's going to be after them. And then it turns out the person. That's after them is a fucking evil much ical MSCI is evil per called to do anything. But normal people just kinda kills people his vision on of the he will often leave some people who should want to kill his stuff allows police after me, oh, the feds. Fucking five. Oh. Yeah. All Optimus people so still, but he'll happily leave them considering he's got the power to like blow a hole in the middle of them. I'm like control about. He can make do what everyone like at one point. He sees the guy pulled shop guy with stuff he sees anyway. And instead of actually just killing them there and getting this stuff back. Oh, come back layer, make you hook up with like a sexy version of me. Men out kill you. Why? Because leprechaun's tricky the focus. Why why we'll sit trick. You just kill him. He was called Jackie Deo was that like his wife. Call inhale ally. Jackie Emma, think in love. Jackie's and always like they go. Yeah. It was Jackie was trying to hook up with Jackie m would seem like his ex wife Jackie m into corn. And then we had some weird noises. So we go to that the leprechaun just fun. Seed Jackie was before kill him. I'm gonna get it on with him in maybe jacked off Jackie here. If it so then he kills. He's the one that we blew a hole in. Yeah. I think so. It's kind of like a weird Jide. I thing he's just like a jet as exact like the legit is small and green and talked with his Yoda. Blow people wanted to see him. We'll leave it. For more iota blowing imparted. This is a break, then cost this is if is rail grab a skit mcken Kat autopay UP, maybe some Rosa. Hello, Moe can bark to this left on episode of this movie podcast where today we're talking about leprechaun in Dowd into who should repay cope with the transsexual same. I why. When. Yeah. So we we were your point in them. Today it because you wanna feel the shame of electrical booking transvestite before like the whole bit where they went round his house. I felt like it was just donors that joke like the whole point of that character being in that was your job night. We're gonna like laughing chuckle whether the characters in the film were were or as an audience we were supposed to it was mainly this guy dresses in women's clothing. So we're all locked. To fill. That's the kind of thing that was been putting a law films that people causes. Great Bill GMs. But it was quite jarring. Yeah. Yeah. About just wouldn't fly any mall kind of. I mean. This. I don't know this dress in women's clothing, and then there's actually mocking like someone that cross dresses all. Nikki ju- member the bit where there's that guy who has like launcher impose candle. The Bill like that time. It was just fine to just by if Amman dresses in launcher Iowa ever, they're going to be some kind of weird Paul's Moxham. Yeah. Just depends on how portrayed though because anyone can get fucking offended by anything anything at. All. It depends on the context because this would have been fine. If they just showed a ton sexual mayo Paul befriends supply that and they died in the funny way, or they may jokes. Funny. Filers pain magical recall a lot looks like a burnt face. And someone's smashed it back to make you like of Epping report is just because they didn't outright day bash. The. Transact leper. Chun sexual may the jokes because of way address them the way, they set up their situations was still it was a it wasn't as as Nikki where I mean you ball and the nose and a guy point Watson in the middle of the street the bodily involved, but it was still kind of that dig. He's people on people. They are just widows at you, and you interact with think about ace Ventura I remember the bit where in a century where is off with eyeing hall. And then when he finds out that she was out to Amman all along is an extended team ways like putting a plunge on his face and throwing open. It's like a whole films that you'd have if you're a straight male in you kiss and the male passionately, you should basically be like having cultures and bleach. Like the dick behind you. Yeah. Everyone. Tone is repulsive, and he was just quite say jarring to see shrink it. Shrink it just wouldn't happen in film these days, or if it would it be. It'd be picked up. I think if there's a little bit to sunset if sometimes like you not going to be if people if people going to go down this route, you not going to be able to make a joke about anything because someone's going to be offended by you come joke versus someone doesn't like we I have kissed a man, that's fine. When you start making it more the thing that everyone hates us and misses on acceptable in any sense positive issue as more like. We'll do you would you rather be like this way five people and then six people that like one kid corner. Even if it's just one person just. Just. Remember about fifty of them all. On. Like physically, spewing this even even. The hood. Wide release. This today. This foam was fucking Lionsgate. That was like my I know Lionsgate WT F. I was like how the hell is this goal like a decent production company release in it? I think with this character and some of well pretty much every female character in the film was. The only reason he was she was there was to just be kind of laughed up. If you think about what that character was there fall is to kind of make the virgin guy feel bit squeamish when he was like attracted to him. I meant to be the bull of joke when got killed meaningful leprechaun, and it was I oh, yeah. That's weird. Now to see that he's weighing to a positive payback. Carryovers film was a main out doing this film. No, this just women who tend to put the ending goal bikinis. This. There's hills alike is like hypnotized ladies. Yeah. Chiefs who Chima we'll see description of a hoochie just dismay audience. Goups? Belly any close long males? The click. The two rivals film. So how do they escape? He makes weird chemical. He's good with chemicals makes towel Bom. Remember the knock him out by Thursday. Look. You know after the give him that join with a folly of clover in it is in bit. Yeah. This point they hide in the bathroom. And then when he comes to them, they do like a little weird ways. I if I put these chemicals on the towel and. Yeah. Touch it till like some electrodes and blow up. Yeah. Do they have home alone thing Trump again and the warm weather leapt, call we've always powers his undefined powers could have just hoped. I mean, how is even finding them. Well, drawn to the magical flu. Yeah. But he's drawn. He gets to the house and doesn't know where they are in the house. Does it? It's like GPS pinpoint you like. And so. Newburn the phone. You bitch, polite. Where are you tonight where the pin pin is on top of the building? This is not his name rose defined miss film. I saw that just thing. Nothing to hold onto. How does my places when he just fuck you walks? Yeah. That's stupid. Someone can be in a house and the can be left three days. Michael Myers is just six days behind just like in this film, though, fucking blows a hole through a man's body. But then gets trucked in a wooden box. Wouldn't know is it. Or we wouldn't all it's. And he's can't get through the dole is blow holes through things as like. Lead is like his weakness, the blood, they will let lead sweetness that was in this film. Yeah. The same. Yeah. It was just because it's gonna look. Yeah. So like, I mean in the if you knew about fucking leprechaun's research extended level. In the leprechaun. Wood biography tells me all this weaknesses. So some kind of fish. Just a pencil in graph. I everyone knows that. Clip recons renowned being imposed superman opposed to lead. Why was introduction? Rhyme about one to tell people about full weight. And this is a he's not. Free. Yeah. Don't let me free alike to be a little gremlin in leprechaun world. I'm the word lens up like it's quite useful in rhymes with dead bread. And it's cold jet. Hotel. Would have been easier to make a rhyme. Emily. Valentine's Day cowed today. And said roses are red violets blue if you were dead of sex. From Ted Bundy. Nice. Nice. Ted Bundy types, and that makes watched it if you well when it first came out. Good. Is weird. And we don't do TV on this podcast. But. Wait making a murderer. So that was no. So it's kind of film the same way as every old fat white American men all look the same and flicks between different ones. It's like, oh, he was a lawyer. He was a policeman. He was someone. He was someone's dad, and it's like, I don't know who you are. You all say we've got white. Hey, you're a little bit fide worry. I don't know who you are. And it kind of flicks between it takes a couple of episodes actually to put faces when they faces. But if you know about Ted Bundy, this brings up also stuff that you wouldn't have known, okay, Willie wrote about him is is quite fit is a bit been played by phones. In the new film, but this is more documentary anyway to the good stuff leprechaun. Ever. So creepy free said lead. Let's wait nece Gruber creepy priest is he gets out because he tries to folk one of his. Which is. Coolio turns of for two seconds. Look, there's Coolio just goes off. There's a star. I forgot to visit. It looked like Richard Gere was in the opening. Thing Barsha, and it's just the padding shop and was a guy Salva ball that they pan right by an swear gear pretty shorts. Probably I just wanted. If knows I mean can work. Yeah. I was still reeling over Lionsgate. Really? So the end then. Yeah. So the is to all side guys died dump me the virgins. I don't wanna die dressed as a woman again. Because that's the worst thing in the world. The whole dress in a women thing how he's may. Yeah. Yeah. The boy dies. Well before everyone else. Did you say that seriously? Yeah. I remember die Fulla stray bullet how he dies honest Marsa could sing isn't ironic. They both die. Two people in gulp Aquinas ten start seeing like a rap also thin via sleep. Philo? No. Yeah. That's the end credit. Any a row Coolio, isn't it? Because. Looking for Richard Greer? Black church, and then he blows his magic whistle. So people like it and Coolio pops up for second because he's drawing by whistle. But I thought he was going to like being as like an extended come here. But no, oh, look there's don't star big brother killed sign McKinley. Cal intro. She is pre. Pre lease. I guess his paradise. This is all about again is it quality. Everything else is done is terrible. Ritchie. Probably shame to his name on the walls in it. So. Is the end. They trick him with the dodgy, we befall clover weed, and then the con- kills my daddy e even thinks he's one and then postmaster. And so. The medallion thing around the leprechauns neck does he put round or does it throw pin? The Mogae fall on him again. On the shoulders. Drapes around him. Yeah. I the first time while ridiculous one amid I cause the second time didn't even lie the night Milne of it. The angles show. Sorry for Kane medallion firing Hobo. You going to say them. Medallion fucking. Which drink Moore's greenstone. So yeah. Romp at the end. And that's it. Well, no. Postmaster froze, the medallion all Robson medallion. However, it is on the precautions neck it gets on the leprechauns neck, and then postmaster goes to the light the. The what the hey pulp Rupp? Competition thing they're all trying to get to he wins. And he's talking about like folk a fight this leprechaun guy. And I'm amazed show where virgin and they go shop before he could get laid. And then this. Leprechaun foot transact I in telling him what does and then it wins. It takes glasses often. It turns out is actually possessed by the leopard. Also. Call them because it was something that. Yeah. Okay. That makes sense if they go on then like, I said didn't check on my. Actually went on his rump skills. A sweet bows called is doesn't make any sense. Why didn't he kept him alive because they've just been battling now to the death? Because. The leprechaun is that now hooked on the marijuana's, right? And prostitutes and the best way to get marijuana's and prostitutes, sweet Repco Warwick Davis is is shit in this film. Sorry. So we'll piece oh, it's awful. Everything's this. Everything's high pitch with ACTA beginning on my own. He's a leprechaun. I don't know why why is seems to think he's a good actor. Yeah. He's not even TV. Yeah. Willows going, willow. You mean the Coweta from buffet fan, right? Yeah. Willows about us film. I mean I've seen that once when I was a kid. Goes so Khudair foul Kilmer's while in topless Val Kilmer. Who are we going to rate this film? Yeah. I would I still Kim. I really yeah. As cheesy shit is hooking great issues. Honestly, like what chin the Spain to watch in the whole of the fucking leprechaun franchises. Great amiss was like sober. You were because I've watched it many times Hobo I own on DVD when I watched it again or should we load? This is the first time I've watched it not been high. She look it. What you watched it twice. No, no. She loved the spell. I was watched it many ties, but he's over times she was off a face. So what do you think don't shy? I'm not even gonna wait. I think it's dog shit. It's this. Even if it was acceptable back. Then this this wasn't acceptable to make this film was battled out. It was an insult. They did a tutor. The people wanted more. This is I don't know who this was full really like a stone film. It wasn't very like a hotel, and it didn't seem to be like a horror film. I don't know. It's fall while you. Do you like I like this because? Person. What what bracket if people do like this just? Happy just murders. Villainous tights who is it full. Honestly, I. Tell him watching people who like like gangsta films of this. I wanted to film connection circles it takes an event diag- eventually get to let. A million different. So. Do you love films about the hood? Small irish. Do you also films chastises transexuals? Love into hold. Awful absolutely awful. It was a pain to watch how high chastises pimps. Like, I say, I've not seen it said. Yeah, I haven't seen. How I is. So this is definitely spoiled. I'm wedding side spoil. That's fine. I don't give a ship don't mind. This is. I I don't base my opinion muscle off all those think of me. St. Eighty more. India your way up. Don't forget to like an subscribe to the spoilt milk movie podcast, you pieces of fucking shit.

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Throwing it Back!

The Cinema Guys

1:07:28 hr | 7 months ago

Throwing it Back!

"I'm Brad. I'm Justin and I'm this intimated we're just three friends. Quarantine around the world to chat movies. We are the cinema guys. Welcome to the show. Welcome to another episode of the cinema. Guys come in well out there. Yeah and this is our what our first episode since theaters officially closed for Justin. This is the first episode I think so because we did invisible man. Last time I saw that yeah that was less on the theater. Wow I one since then while I while. Hopefully hopefully we'll get more listeners. Now people are quarantined. They have nothing. That'd be although my podcast listening has gone down since the quarantine so is by really. Yeah 'cause I mean it's gone up because I can do a lot of doing stuff and since I'm doing nothing partners but if this is your first time in welcome and if you are returning in quarantine listening law so welcome not like different earn anything. Yeah welcome feels well isolated this week. We are doing something a little different. We each picked a movie from the year. We were born to talk about. Not since you know. There's there isn't any new movies in the theaters. Decided to shake it up a little bit and then we have. I think the top. This is fun too. We picked top movies four year. Wait at high school number two. We kept that up because I have a lot to pick three mine. Maybe four mines maybe nine. You can't do nine nine nine to many. I have used it nine. Six brand new. I didn't know we could pick six. We're also would've picked six. There was really good movies. Usually more actual point them yes together. I have six written down but I'm only getting three of all right. I have four written down. I'm only I could have had ten written down but I only picked three and I'm sure off the top of your head. You'll probably have a few honorable for number three. I can't decide which wins which I would like when he's all said and done hall of nine. Hundred seventy nine probably. Maybe he'll throw in a couple while we're talking to right behind but before we jump into top this I want to say. Thank you to our newest patriot. We have an entry on. Yes we gotTa Sing Song Lead Singer Song. Thank you see in a page. Yeah on the early new one ready. Yeah and we can do the whole thing to the Golden Girl Song. Thank you for being a patriots. Fan traveled down the world and and I like the you know the golden girls theme Song Google play for here at the done house. Say Gold girls that I do is true. Your a Pal Anna COPPA with five dollars. Beena page and go to Patriotdepot dot com slash cinema guys. And you too could become a patron of the show. Yeah thanks a lot and this newest patriae on gave me the best idea which I'm not completely finished with yet but it's Your top movies from every year. You've been alive. I'm trying to keep the list. I only got so I started in seventy nine and I got to. I think eighty nine or ninety. May It's tough it'd be. That'd be quite a task. Yes it's awesome and I'm gonNA keep this forever because it's so good. It's not very fair though because you guys can't more than I do. Yeah sorry doesn't suck to be born and like the two thousands where you're getting nothing. I was born in eighty eight. Thank you know the the more the years go up. I think the harder it is to pick because because he got older. And you're like watching a lot more go into the and it's like especially in the seventies and early eighties just wasn't as many movies every year. And now I feel like there's I mean there's so many movies every year that is that is a good idea all right. Let's do like we like to deal with jump. Now let's quarantine shuffler way into the top left corner himself that looks like this top this For this week's top this we are giving our top three and probably some honorable mentions for the year. We graduated high school. This is all about showing our age on this episode. Okay it was. It was tough because looking at what year was every. While I was nineteen ninety-three I was nine hundred ninety seven. I was two thousand seven. Oh my gosh. Two thousand last year of those last year right yeah. It was pretty much holy crap. So parasite is on your list. Who was president of the graduated? Who is the first? Who'S THE FIRST PRESIDENT? You voted for my first. President was Obama and I think it was Bush when I graduated high school. Who WANTS TO START OFF THEIR HIGHSCHOOL LIST? I can start it off and I'll start start. You Start Nineteen Ninety three. We had some wet movies. Come out that year. I was five Cypriot. Cnn These you probably saw Disney film or something and at the end result my I. I had a tough time. Picking the three like my number three can be tied between two so it was tough. But I'm just GONNA give them one of them. I'll save the other one for an honorable mention but number three would be Jurassic Park. I Yeah I did actually seizure acid park when I was little. I think when it came out like when it came out on. Vhs Or yeah it was be a joke. I remember when the dinosaur eight the guy off the toilet it it's one of those like scarring when you're a child. That's definitely one of my. I remember going to the theater and seeing it but it was like a time where you didn't see a lot of preview so I had no idea I was like. Why are we seeing this time? We don't see a line preview. No I thought it was like a dinosaur. Maybe it was like. I don't WanNa see a dinosaur movie and I remember sitting there being like this is amazing why it. I was like okay. I want to see this. I had seen some previous. But it wasn't a ton and it was like I wanna see this dinosaur movies C. was Spielberg and you go to the theater. In the line's around the building. Like what at what what everybody is. Why so many people wanting to see this is a little known facts that they actually is real dinosaurs to film in the film and then they euthanize them all at the end all right. Yeah that's where I knew that you can actually go to the place where they're all buried. It's called rounds. Jurassic Zero Drastic Park. My number three. My number two thousand nine hundred ninety three is one of the show we are. We not doing this round robin. This is amazing. I didn't even have to say anything. She was only a year breath. Each money's Brad. And His podcast. The hosts has taken a host. I have say oh you you did win. The Oscar picks but wiring this. I'm allowing this. Thank you send a master number two for nine. Hundred Ninety. Three is one of the greatest westerns ever made blazing saddles young guns Tube. Stone tubes the tombstone is it's so you gotta you gotTa Really Good Pizza and my number one from nineteen. Ninety-three is my one of my all time favorite animated movies. I watch it every year. Bambi the nightmare before Christmas. I I love that movie and that is a great movie. Let's get my honorable mention. Which could flip to number three. Is The SANDLOT sandlots. Good Yeah so those. Those are my nineteen ninety three films. Four years down the Road Justin will graduate from high school and he will see movies and two of the movies on this list and I actually have not year or actually on my top. Ten movies of all towns chasing amy one of them chasing. Amy is one of them still good. Still good it's inappropriate has not aged well which we did I episode. You can go back and So chasing amy it was number two number one being the fifth element which is Alabama chasing. Amy and then I was GonNa let you guys decide my number three. It is a tie. Between Grosse Pointe Blank. Let's a good film and a life less ordinary with Ewan. Mcgregor Cameron Diaz Life. Less ordinary. There are you just because you've seen either one true. That's I always. You said you'll McGregor and I was in. I haven't watched Grosse Pointe Blank in a while but Blake is John John Sack. Yeah and Dan ackroyd Dan ackroyd and Minnie driver. It's a good movie. Ten years man lifeless ordinary. I just recently watched hearts so again. It's really good. I love that movie. I love the musical number in the middle of it with I R. What isn't the Red Hot Chili peppers in it? No that's the arrival. That's the one with Charlie Sheen where he kidnaps the rich girl. Oh yeah the chase. Yeah the chase that's it. Yeah Yeah no. So you say life was ordinary go lifeless ordinary number chose. Yeah that's what Ashley chose when she watched all these films eight eight. Now know your nine as nine. Oh you could've watched the fifth element. Maybe I did watch film and I'm pretty sure and then a decade after you graduate adjusted so then what I swear twenty-seven graduated at eighteen. I am now while I was born in seventy nine. I am twenty eight. I had two children. I had one agreed baby. All right so my list is Two Thousand and seven to seven. I will say the number one one is probably going to be across the universe. Another one's good. That came out. You're born. I feel like that was like okay. Let's let's talk about the fact that the I graduated not there. I was bore graduate direct. Yeah I keep thinking. They're both the same sign immediately. Greiner they were both not too long ago. Yeah so across the university number one. 'cause I love God. I watched that movie so much. Michael Sarah no across Jim Searching Lewis. That's how I need my Cat North because I love that movie so much anyway. Of course you did anyway across the universe was the one that was the first movie that I saw the esquire too. I think okay and then I would probably go with hot rod with Andy Sat. We just watched this corn week. We Watch Rod- I love them like dying laughing. It's every time falls and hits his body really hard. Eat so funny and it's amazing. Cast HIS MAMA. Sissies basic and like the dude from deadwood Ian McShane. Yes McShane is it like. I'm like there's so many good actress and then all his fellow cast members in snl or in that writers and his best friends from childhood. It's so we were watching it and dying laughing so then the other one is a tie between Lars and the real girl. Oh that's a good movie and PS I love you because you know. It's I like both those choices. I do not care for the Beatles one. I like to be amazing. I don't like the Beatles out of your out of your to the tide. I've only seen Larson real girl. I love you actually is really good. It's really good. I cry a lot every time we got our guy in it jarred Butler a jerry in it. I love him. He's so hot. Hey those are some good lists I it was. It was hard to pick. Also an honorable mention is going to be. I am legend because I could not say I am Muslims. Good I liked the alternate version. Much ending much better because but let us know some picks you have for our three years ninety three ninety seven in two thousand seven. Maybe there's some movies from the three years we didn't pick. Yeah or if YOU GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL. Let's yours just gotTa wear the Cinema Guys Dot Com and you can contact us and let us know some yours all right so this week. Our picks are going to be a little different. We're not doing just one movie. We're doing three movies three before you know. We just did our graduation year. Now we are going to. We each picked movie from the year that we were born at did the others either have seen haven't seen or whatnot and now we're going to talk about those. So who wants to? Who Start off with their birth year movie. I'll start. Oh Yeah Ashley should start took. Children found this baby alone. By the river I Otis. Baby told me find child Eloranta elements to be guarding me. You need a warrior for job like this. What did you pick Ashley? Give us one of those stellar films that you've seen a thousand times that you've seen from that great year you were born. Nineteen ninety nine nineteen eighty eight on the amy's done well done. My birth year is eighty eight. I'm September eighty eight baby. Oh Okay and my star Sinus Berko yes. I chose Willow looking to date the Senate meeting. You can find your on. Tinder them mold. But that's it. That's what I was thinking of. Nine hundred eighty eight is your one thousand nine hundred and you picked the fine film of Willow and why? Why did you pick will I? Love will because it was directed by Peter Jackson. Willow was not is record by Peter Jackson. It was totally not alive directed by Ron Howard. Jackson no Peter Stack nothing to do with. You might be thinking of those other films called Lord of the Rings. Have you heard of him? I thought I saw the article. They was the Arctic. You know all those relevant articles about willow out there. Did you go to a microfiche at the library? Article on Willow. This is the most. This is still very sick. You have to leave. So the article actually said that the Hobbit is a rip off of the Willow and Peter Jackson stole the. I like the like semi detached from it. That makes no sense is Peter Jackson's movies were based on by no way. Willow in the willow story has a lot of similarities to do. They mean there's just little people that we it was Peter Jackson in somebody else. Who did things George Lucas George? Lucas was broke the story for correct. That's what I was thinking of love. And Ron Howard directed the film Awesome Star Wars. It was awesome so good first of all I have never seen a movie. I have never seen gone with the wind. Also so you you picked a movie from your birth year that you had not seen on what I understand you want. You did see about ten minutes ten minutes and slow even leave the village. No he picked the finger of life. No he was still doing magic tricks laughing at the last thing. I remember is. He has little arm through like a like a and it's just an arm. It's just an arm. Sorry Warwick Davis. That's an arm arm. You picked a movie. You hadn't seen to watch. Yes because I thought Oh. This'll be fun. This supposed to be really good is good and then I wanNA sleep so you still have to be fair yesterday my Sunday. I watched Oliver Movies. I kind of I watched first. Brad's movie Second Justin's movie and I was like I'll watch mine last because I don't know mind should be last and then that happened and then I fell asleep. Fake your way. Through any of the movies Monty Python would have been the easiest because she's a series of silly so I picked willow. I still have never seen it. Well you know what? I'm still WANNA talk about willow. Because he doesn't talk about all you want Peter Jackson's new movie willow leader Jackson's New Willow. The dumb bell so we have in. Willow. We have VAL kilmer. Ask Marty getting mad bargain. Yes actually. He's like the best part of the film and you missed. Oh okay I'll watch this. So he is people like me like regular size people. And they're called dikirinis correct and willow is called the Nell win. They are smaller people. Okay and so the now ones are like hobbits. They're sort of insignificant. Ob Peter Jackson. Okay I'll keep making his poverty references just so you keep saying that well and it is sort of a fantasy film just like the Lord of the Rings Films Were Peter Jackson. He's been there. There is a lot of swords just like there wasn't Lord of the Rings. Peter Jackson there is a journey just like in Lord of the Rings where they have to take guys some. Why are you sure? Peter Jackson didn't make this movie. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure you're not. I think Peter Jackson was actually burgled. Cut Eleven that absolutely. I don't know what that me and there are even little or people that are almost ferry sized and their color varies Laura Data Americans correct areas. And they're around his when they get drunk they get drunk and say silly things. Yes and they have like rats skulls on their heads. Because they're they're little so they kill rats instead of like deer. Oh my God you're right now and that crazy Kumasi do Peter Jackson make this year. You may tell you something about the scene. You did see Ashley. The magic scene where he makes a pig disappear. Oh I didn't see that part or try to the end of the trick. You just saw the beginning of the trick. Yeah well he makes a pig disappeared. Well guess what at the end of the film amongst all the wizards and witches and magicians he uses that little parlor trick to make a the the baby disappear and they're they're stunned and I why don't you go to another dimension. But really she was just under the table like the pig was he. Tricky he tricks the evil witch. Yeah it was willing. He is more powerful than her makes. The baby disappear. I use my disappearing pig trick. Yeah I feel like. This is a really epic tale. It's an added. It is actually yeah. There is a lot of source. I was Brad. You've found that there were three books written by George. Lucas who I'm guessing gave the story and then the guy wrote the books. Yeah it was written by George Lucas in Chris Claremont. If you're in comics. He is a big comic book writer and I was fascinated to read these books but according to Amazon literally like one hundred percent of the reviews like this is the worst book series ever. You can't find them. There's not digital copies either. The chronicles of the shadow war. Because there are so many other characters within the movie that I would love to know more about even if you stay with the Nell one. I'd love to know more about bunk car to like the mighty warrior. Yes yes yes. Actually you know. I'd love to know more about the other war that mad. Marta again like didn't get to go to but made probably would've died in there when he was in the in the in the gallows replace. I would like to know more of Madame Oregon in his. You know he is the best swordsman. Greatest swordsman to ever live. Yeah and any you just think he's playing him. And then at the end when he like really pulls out his his sword tricks and willow sees him and he just like lights up like he really is. He wasn't lying to me that that world. I would love to see more than I mean. There's talk of a rumored sequel series. Coming would really love to see that. Yeah I what are our that whole castle kingdom that they go and but they're all dead when they get in there. Yeah I mean this is one of those movies that came out around the time where you had you know dark crystal labyrinth legend. The you know the never ending story a lot of like those really faintest. We've read wash that when the kids in it. It does it. It's not it's not overly cheesy with the special effects so it's a lot of practical effects but they the only thing that was like can see jarred or or whatever they use them. Was The dragon drunk. You just say claymation or see back in there. They like mix them both together. Like a stop. Motion Animation of Uh kind of like. I bet that's where Peter Jackson learned it. Yeah I probably and Ashley. What are you never ever give a baby peanut? Honey honey you never get baby honey. No it was black. It was the answer. Well real line in the film was raised on black. It was Vanilla Vanilla stocks. That's really they used. Yep that's fascinating. What other. Give me some other random facts. I Love I love this movie. Other random facts. I love the Willow. I could give you Val kilmer and Joanne whalley his. Who Played Sorta Ooh? Yeah they met on the film and they married Yup. Yeah how long? I don't know how long they were married but I know they eventually. They did get divorced. He had her when he was like the moon or whatever you know when he was when he was. Kinda under that the love spell. Yeah that does the broken heart. Yeah yeah actually missing out no will is a good movie. I you you you are missing out and I will do. WanNa hear a little bit of a sad news from my childhood when I first saw willow. I didn't WanNa go because I didn't I couldn't conceive of a little person being the hero of the film so when I saw Val kilmer in the film I remember going like Oh well. He's going to be the hero because he's not a little person. But then by the end I remember a little people can be here too and if kilmer got top billing in the movie even though he's not he's not the main character in the movies not specifically about him. Yeah because one. He's IT'S VAL kilmer. It's a name that people know work Davis I mean he was. He played a opportunity walk or was he was. He was a wicket. So and and George Walk. He also had a quick cameo in episode one. Yes he was in. The stage for a job was Or the palace whatever. Well it and the newest star wars when they show wicket and the other e walk at two towards the end of Rice's skywalker. That's his son so he got to play. Wow with his son in Star Wars. That's pretty sweet. And George. Looted wrote Willow He he came up with the story and like the seventies but he wrote the movie specifically for Warwick Davis for awesome potter. Two guys. He's the main Goblin. He was the professor. He wasn't one of the banquet. I thought he was the main Green Dots. The main out he was a he was flitwick. Wasn't he yes yes professor? I don't know the names guessing. That's what it was because you only read half the books and I know I remember you read syncing a theme here of you know only ten minutes half a buck. It's Colorado space. He got twenty minutes of it to be fair. That's all you need but another fun fact of this movie. John Cusak screen tested to be man marked again in the show. That would not have been great. He the greatest swordsman. Who ever lived. He still is what he says. It's one of his. Biggest disappointments is not getting that role in the film. Yeah but VAL kilmer nailed it. Oh Yeah I could. Anyone else is a madman again. Give me a sword. I win this war for you. That is the guy remember. It vividly a Laura. Dannon must survive the guy who played. Eric means something yes he he looks a lot or not he looks. I think Jacob. Uc looks a lot like him. Because when you when you like when I just re washed it again yeah I kind of had a double take and I'm like well this eight. He also looks at time. Like torment from Game of thrones. The redhead. Tournament has corona virus Sorry Hashtag Hashtag. You better stay away. But what is it about Willow Justin? That made you fall in love with it was at the adventure was a young. So what what year was it actually eighty eight. Oh look at that. You could answer that. I wasn't nine so it was a pretty new experience going to a theater to see something so fantasy. That wasn't common right. I mean in the eighties. We you had quite a few of them. It was our movies the labyrinth come out in the eighties. Everything always hit the theater. And I don't think in the eighties. You went like you do now. New MOVIE COMES OUT. We go see like back then. It was like a treat for our family to actually see ladies even though because I mean eighty eight. I was only thirteen so it wasn't like I could just run out to the theater whenever a new movie. Get someone to drive me there and you know usually 'cause I remember one high school. That was a thing we did. Let's go see movies because we do whatever we want because before. Your parents just aren't always going to do that. That was like a family treat for everyone to do tricked so I remember it being lake. Wow this is cool. We saw this movie and I and I didn't know anything about it. Never heard of it. My parents picked it out and we went and it was good and it was really good and since then I bet I probably seen it at least thirty seven times very thirty seven more times than actually. He's thirty seven more than me. Yes you've seen it enough for both of us young for for me. I you know a lot of the same with the movies that came in around that time. I love like that fantasy adventure type of movie like all those movies that I'd mentioned before. Like legend and labyrinth than the dark crystal. And like all those. I love that that type of movie so when this one came out it was. I don't I don't think I saw the theater. I didn't see it until later but I just like the adventure of the movie and I was like now. Sylmar comber what are you for years or on Mir three four four and at that age? That's a huge difference right. Yeah so you've already seen probably way more movies in theaters. I had like because I would have been five at some of those films that you were seeing when I was nine lake or when you were nine so I think this was probably earlier because I remember I definitely had seen labyrinth and legend but I don't think I saw them into theater. I think this was earlier theater. Watch for me which is probably why I remember it so much. I I love watching it this week. I hadn't watched it in years. I'm like I still enjoy this movie. I still like how cute you did. See this part. Actually how cute are there to little kids? Oh yeah they work you all. My Gosh has two little little kids and time. That was fun. I did read. That was one of the biggest casting calls for like little people of our time huge. Because you couldn't you know the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit movies they just digitally right mainland they weren't trade as leg Munchkins they were portrayed as warriors and yeah. This is a portrayal. This horse recall. I like it I like. I like will actually willow. I'm letterbox. Well I was GONNA ask if you wanted to put a rating on it. I gave it up point. I think giving it a radio. I'm going to wait until I actually see it. It's good yeah. It is actually worth watching the show. What do you give is one of your like? I love this movie. So much. That the five star or I if I you know that sucks 'cause I saw it now. I probably wouldn't do that but at the time. And it was the best I I love it although It flopped right. It was a it was it was a bomb because they did have ideas for the sequels. But that's why trilogies right you get. They they they went to the books because the movie failed. Yes George Lucas thought. Oh this is GONNA BE. I mean he can use coming off a star wars right and thinking. Oh I could do. I do this fantasy films. Are We have Indiana Jones to and it's yeah it's now yeah. I knew that it flopped and it did not do well so I I but I loved it. I loved it the so. Let's move onto either Justin or my film. Well we'll we'll save we'll save Justin's we'll do mind because I know you're you're not a giant fan of my film. Yeah I and I know that I am not in the majority of this opinion it is ping us and these are my knights of the round table. Who's castle is this candid? I'm after can go and tell your master if we have been charged by God with a sacred quest if he will give us food and shelter for the night he can join us in our quest for the holy grail. Where team but I don't think he'd be very keen. He's already good wine. You see what he says. They've already go. I was born in one thousand nine hundred eighty five which I was torn between this film and jaws. Jaws came out that same year. Baffled by the fact the ear. Fourteen years older than me. You could've been my dad. My father taught yeah like they get technically ever have been my father four years. It'd be tough no downton but I picked one of my all time favorite comedies monty python and the holy grail. I've seen this movie probably fifty times and every time I watch it still I mean I see I belly laugh because I now I've seen these jobs. Love that the COMECON. There's guys do agree. Yeah and I love those guys and I'm like Hey okay. So the movies. I liked the movie the first time I saw it. I thought it was the first time you saw high school. Okay okay I have a lot of people really size films that your go. You gotTa Watch this around. I saw until college and then and then and then people started quoting a little too much and then I was like. I'm now tired of it because it's like people like I don't know people can ruin Eh for me. What they get with seems to be the people who quoted a lot. We're always like oddballs. Yes thank you Justin. I want to say it. Yeah I guess. It's like that. Stigma has actually ruined the movie for a little bit. It was like the people who loved Monty Python equality were also the same people who overly loved Star Trek and the Star Trek series. Those two groups were very similar and they probably played a lot of the animals at home in smelled. Like pee. There's no there's nothing wrong with doing this. But I feel like the people that also really love all those things are also people that do lurking full-time. Yes yes. That's okay you're surly you're really putting people who like this into a category right. I understand that is a dualistic way of thinking and not one of those but I agree and I do enjoy the movie if but then I have the stigma of people who do those things and then every time I see it. I just get that like cringing feeling when I like. Yeah I just get the feeling when I'm like. Oh God I've heard that joke like fifty thousand times out of some. Do try to hit on me like a comic con. WanNa hear that I put it in the category also though a different one of like dumb and dumber movie that everyone loves for some reason. I hated until I get that. Everyone loves MONTY PYTHON. And what what is it that you don't like about age and so? I I guess I just don't think this is that's just not my type of humor okay. It's very British humor though right. Yeah I mean you don't like British humor but it's very unless it's hugh grant. It's very unless a secret silly humor too. I mean it's it's but I feel like it's very British it's very British and so I came to that kind of humor late too because I remember seeing like naked gun movies in airplane and all those in not thinking they were funny either but then later on I came to like Ace Ventura and Billy Madison and thinking those were really funny and I get that. It's all the same kind of bombastic dry weird humor but came to that type of humor and I appreciate what the film is. I'm not saying I think it's actually a good pick because it's I get that. The movie is is Standalone film for some reason. I just didn't like it. I don't know why and I liked it but then people ruined it for me. I I could see that I I also did not see it until college and it was one of those films. I'm the second I watched it. It's the type of humor that I just find very very funny so I mean right from the get. Go when you have those credits in near. Just the jokes popping on the screen and and you know every different seen in. This movie is just full of stupid jokes. He made me laugh in. Everything was so quotable. I was one of those people that would walk around and do a nice to say or is they. Bring me shrubbery like you would. Yeah you actually just made me cringe. Just a little bit by saying that. I immediately thought of the all the people who worked in the cafeteria in college. It's just it's one of those. I think it's it's my type humor and like I said every single time I watch it. I still just laugh out loud all those all those things that I said like the people that learn but I I like those people. I'm not saying I don't like those people I'm saying. They just like I feel like that group of people over quotes the movie over quotes it in ruins it just like when you hear a song on the radio too many times like. Oh my God I hate this song now. That's what it is for me like. I remember watching and being like okay. I'm about to watch this film that everyone loves and they have the coconuts doing the horse. Clopping I'm like man God and that that reason they used the coconuts is because they had no money to make this movie so they couldn't afford to do horses so they just thought it was still a coconuts With also to be fair I saw it. How many years after came out came up to seventy five thirty years after came out almost two. They're probably thirty years after and so those jokes were already ingrained in our society so I probably heard most of the quotes from the movie before I even saw those and it also has a like a tendency to overdo. The joke like okay. This scene is done. Can we get to the next scene? And I think at the time you know in college I was kind of like looking for meaning in depth. Everything so I'm sure I probably wouldn't have liked the film like that. What's it mean? Do nothing you know. Now I can relate to stupid movie. Just full of now quotes. I mean. That's kind of what it is. It's just a movie just to like I also British humor because I know you don't like it Like the Wallace and gromit and stuff like that. I love the worst chicken run. I love it but I can run for the year I graduated high school. One of the movies was being which I think Rowan Atkinson. Mr Bean is the worst thing that ever happened to comedy and Mr Bean hilarious. You think. It's funny yeah I do like. That's the whole time like this is so stupid and you're a stupid character. The Christmas is one. I never had ever Mr Bean anything to get to Christmas. I talk like this and and it's not. I guess that kind of humor doesn't end. There's always a lot of like bathroom humor with a lot of British stuff and that bothers me. I don't like far far humor of like that man. Just don't like Frisch animation and you don't like British humor well plan and also the animation is also because of the humor like I wouldn't mind the animation if it wasn't always I would say you know we we just did the things Ori- chickens I roam. I sorry okay. Well I think he does at a problem with it. Awesome Hugh grant you you re watched. Holy grail correct. I can't I can't tell you how many times I rolled my eyes or how because this is what I heard the joke so many times or it's so many times. How many times did you? The flesh wound shut up. How many times did you go like okay? Can we fast forward to this scene? Yes I wanted to many times because I feel like they're all this drag on like like a mid two thousand. Snl This okay. We need to stop the scene now but but it still is a good film. Yeah I get it I get that. I don't have a popular or liked opinion. I guess I don't know Spencer Gifts Spencer gifts. I'm pretty sure it's been selling a t shirt that says it's just a flesh wound on it for probably thirty five years. It's true and it is one of those like that's what I love about film. Everybody loves every move. That's what I love about film my co-host usually hey what I bring to not. I don't WANNA hate it every time I say watch Colorado space again like Justin rose one. Is that one is real weird or or when I say. Hey guys watch resident evil you both. Let's see I've never been resident evil hater on you. I just. I don't like them like you do but I'm just. I'm just teasing with saw some fast and furious that I absolutely cannot stand that you bring up. I would rather watch resident evil invest furious. I know you're not a fan justin. But what would you? What would you rate it for a three three GONNA save? My was the same three in for me. I mean it's one of my favorite comedy so I'm going to give. I can't believe you're you're about to give it a give it a five zero to five. I cannot I cannot I cannot. What else did MONTY PYTHON DO AFTER? Holy Grail They did the life of Brian. Okay see I get Monty Python and Mel Brooks confused a lot and they always for. Brian was Mel Brooks also but now Mel Mel Brooks did like the history of the world part one right Robin Hood men in tights. Yeah blazing saddles a worked in blazing saddles so speaking of blazing Saddles Justin your movie. Have these like blazing no no no. No you're movie. Had The star of blazing sound Gotcha. Yeah him to dance with you. He is going to show you how his people Dan Ready under. Tommy's a great guy here there. You go buddy I wish out so then we're GonNa do nice. That's it it's good ladies ladies Jewish Indians and jokes. You incase your year was nineteen seventy nine seventy nine and I picked this. 'cause I the first time I saw it. It was obviously not the euro's born probably in high school or maybe junior high. I don't know but I remember crying at it because I remember yeah. I remember seeing gene wilder who. I'd only known from Willy Wonka yeah and he his when he gets robbed the first time his. You're moving I remember. Oh sorry what is your movie pick? The movie is Frisco Kid. The Frisco kid starring Harrison Ford and Gene Wilder Weller. I had not seen this movie until it's good it. I felt kind of odd. Yeah definitely because it gets very serious and then the jokes. Sometimes it was like okay. We want from the seriousness to Ryan Gene Wilder. Kind of quirkiness joke. You know his style right and yours it. Just I don't know it was just Kinda odd. Yeah so gene wilder rabbi and Harrison. Ford is like a I don't know what are they a cowboy. Yeah who kind Robert. So who helps him but Li- and they form a relationship with the Ira Yeah I it as a more serious film more than ever. Think of it as a comedy to be honest. Yeah that's how I remember it too but I think they did that. A lot back then like comedies. That were serious. A comedy drama. Like yeah like you know the Romney. Yeah a Giradi and then what Harrison Ford would have done one star wars film by the time. Yeah and Jean Law hold on Harrison Ford has got to be one of the sexiest men that have ever lived higher. World is any so I was watching. It was like I remember. Now why you're the first crush I've ever had any so hand. Like he's so handsome and like it just the way he carries himself and the way he talks like God. Bless you were watching it. Both my boys were they look. They're watching Kinda off and on with it because they're playing games and they're like. Is that guy the cowboy is he? He looks like Han Solo. That the same guy who who is Han Solo Harrison Port? Now Oh okay. That's sexy man. And their other comment was like there's a lot of bad words this movie insurance rated PG and I'm like seventy s man P G parenting. We just watched a movie. That was Pg Thirteen What was it with the kids and the Kristen was like this is pg thirteen and it was from the ninety. Oh it was Wayne's world how much sexuality like this does not seem like it should be there and again I think it has some of the same tropes as a film that age can have as far as like. It's slow. Yes yes definitely slower. You know I remember seeing it and liking it. And that's why I picked it not because now I would watch and be like okay. This may be a little boring. It was it was a little slow. I had racial appropriation. This was the first time I had seen it and like mo a lot of movies from that time period the pacing. Your pacing of movies is different. The now like everything now is like it's gotta be in your face. Now we gotta keep things going quickly and then they kind of the kind of just kind of move things along a little bit at a time but I think that was the moment where I realized that gene wilder is a really good actor like he just. He took that role of a silly comedy. Movie right and just nailed it. I'M GONNA be this rabbi very good actor. I did read an article about how this is. Gene Wilder was very obviously particular about what roles he took and he took this one because it is the most. It's the closest to who he actually is the same article that had Peter Jackson. Doing Willow. Is it the microfiche article you you went to the library and looked up? Well done I know that you have that looking glass that you'd like to look at Microfiche. Anyone who is a gene wilder? He has a particular way that especially his comedy. He I mean it's it's not A. He has a physical comedy miss to him in. He has kind of a you know. I. It's hard to explain because he does have a particular style where it's not full comedy. His is always get really big in this one especially when he you know he has. He has a beard and it's a different gene wilder than you. I've seen in any other movie of his so it was. It was definitely a different role. So that's why part of it. It's it's hard to like. Is this comedy must post laugh right now right after. Seriousness praise a lot like publicly very publicly. Gene Wilder went through a period when he was younger where he would prey. He got the urge to pray randomly in public like that. Wow and he had to go to therapy for because and then he discovered it was like how he wasn't dealing with the anxiety of his mom being sick or something like that. It didn't really get into deeply about like that was but it said that he really connected with the role because he felt a lot of himself in the role. Now did you ever see hear. No Evil See no evil with him. Richard Pryor no look I mean back when it came out but I don't well the only number dealing interest about their as I almost show it was going to be as a toss up between CISCO ARE FRISCO KID and the toy. Did you ever see the toy with Richard Pryor? Yes yes that came. You're actually such a good movie. You couldn't make it now. It was a rich white kid who had everything he wanted and the dad was a vacant father named us but his southern wife caught him. You ass she the. Us and the father's just go into the store and whatever you want from the store you can have you Alpi. Whatever the store. Well Richard Pryor word to the store was stuck there that night and the boy wanted to buy a African American man by Richard. Pryor because he thought Richard Pryor was fun and so Richard. Pryor takes the job because he gets a lot of money to go. Be this boy's Toy Yup anyways you couldn't make it now was funny like so funny and it wasn't. I don't think at the time I mean. Obviously it knew what it was doing. It wasn't like Oh we don't know they knew and they and they and they deal with that issue too but it's really funny and it's really good the toy. That was one of my second one but Richard Pryor and gene wilder. We're in the movie together. Where is someone's deaf? Someone's blind here too. We will see no evil. Yeah I I did. Read that Harrison. Ford's character was originally supposed to be John. Yes and John. We didn't get paid the little amount that they try to lower his payments. That's why I would never washed it. Would've mailing actually was made? He was going to do it. And then they. They paid less money than he was expecting or wanted. Incident hairs forgotten. How much much different it would. Gene Wilder also Harrison Ford is a dime. He C- he steals every role he does say does he get Johnny. Come on. Yeah I wonder if I have that. Just ingrained in my body. When you see you're always like what a handsome man super sexy solely true. He is the age of my grandfather. Now why like like I said I did find it odd in some parts of the movie I felt. Sometimes I felt like it was a weird cut. Kinda jumped oddly of. Oh where we're here all of a sudden going like when they when they got to the Indian reservation with our iphone that whole thing kind of weird also was the chief actually Indian or was he a white guy dressed up as an Indian product of and a white guy. I'm pretty sure there's a white guy dresses in India. We still call Indians then. I know their native Americans but like some of the people in the tribe were actually native American from wor. Yeah Yeah but I think the chief I I I really believe he was just a white guy. It is a white guy where they were talking at one point. I thought maybe he was going to like kind of whisper in his ear like he was playing this tribe to lead them just because his his demeanor. I kind of felt like he was. GonNa you know. Don't don't tell them the the jokes going to be up or kind of thing but Greinke. I don't know I mean it doesn't. It wasn't an awful movie again now. I would probably give it a three and a half just because just because I liked it. I liked the the story that gene wilder character was like trying to go through of like. I'm a man of my morals. No matter what is happening around me in this weird lead going to stick to my morals. Because that's who I am a man a you know. He is a rabbi and he he was sticking to. This is what I believe. This is who I am. That's why it gave me the extra half star. I really liked that that story look at all these good lessons. There's that one and willow is the powers time. And what's that lesson? We got from Monty Python. They're all just loppers soon. Got Arrested at the end. Yeah that's it thank you but I I gave Frisco kid a two and a half. I mean right in the middle. I didn't think it was awesome. Harrison Ford being in. It probably gave me extra half star to. If it wasn't for him it wouldn't have been as great. I agree I was expecting the Han Solo attitude to come out of them sometimes because when he was serious being really nice I was like. Oh He's joking and then I was like oh no. He's actually being nice. Yeah there were a few times where Han Solo did come out of him like when he kinda I met him and he was Getting Ready to go the wrong way. And just the look on his face where he was. Yeah seeing as like oh it's completely a Hans Solo and then right after I forgot what it was. He said the Hansel line that he had said. It's it's I mean it's hard Indiana Jones in Hans Solo like. He's just that's always going to be for the rest exactly a forever. I love his Indiana Jones. It's so good all right so for we move to at home recommendations. I do WANNA say. Even the theaters closed visit our friends at not at the actual esquire theatre but go to escort theater DOT COM. They're doing some stuff. Their facebook feed is Super Fun. Yeah they're they're doing like these contests of like creating posters with household stuff and they're doing like they're putting Marquee contests like. Oh we're going to put the sorry marquee. What movies is from? You can also rent a movie through them which may be called Saint Francis. Yeah I really want to rent. And it looks awesome and any rental through there goes towards them so they can help pay their employees one thousand right now. They're they're doing some awesome stuff so check them out. We we love the ESQUIRE WE WANNA WE WANNA keep them. Then they just got voted Best Theater in Cincinnati for the four who are their competitors Cinema everybody but they're like not even this illegal stem exactly. They're better pray. All those are like giant an exactly glamorous and this is the independent little guy. Yup The esquire. Let's move into cement home recommendations Justin you have a. You have a lot for homes this week. So we yes. I'm not GonNa Steal What. I'm sure one of these and say so. I'm not GonNa talk about that one but kristen and I have caught up and watch all of the available episodes of little fires everywhere else. Witherspoon the woman. I don't know her name but she's from like The VONDA rice film scandal only. What's shackles little fires everywhere? Yes it's supposed to be really good. Book reminds me a lot of pretty little liars if you saw that on. Hbo It's so good though. If you like that kind of like what's going on reese witherspoon nails it. But it's on Hulu Become Watch him and and I also started the first episode of hunters on Hulu Amazon so Amazon original with Al Pacino. And they're hunting down modern day when the seventies modern day Nazis and so far really good. I finished episode. I really like it. So those are my two zero. Two Homework Amon dejean right. Cinnamon you can take this. I have another one. It is the show the show. Everyone is talking about literally everyone is talking about. You probably heard about it or heard about it. We'll probably already seen about it. You've already probably heard all about it. But I gotta say it. It's obviously the tiger king is I have I have two episodes left in it. So here's my thing. We washed it all. We benched on wash the entire thing. It's not as good as I thought it would be. Given how much I heard the hype behind it. Yes the did not I. I had nothing. I ain't nothing to go by other than everyone's Washington everybody's talking about it. Everyone's talking about it so we're like okay. Let's watch it and I was like okay. It's a murder mystery. Didn't know that that was a thing and I really sorta and there's a murder but I was like so it's good. It's really really good but not as murder mystery is like a back burner storyline. Good as I thought it would be like. It's but it's crazy. It's really worth watching. I feel like I said I saw two left but the out of the first five every episode. It's like it it Kinda crazier Berry in. They're bringing in other people and you're like whoa come from although the last episode. I feel like it's kind of a letdown. Why I've never seen a documentary. That had so much. Actual footage like most documentaries like even that make millions. Hbo is no real footage. Really think that guy actually lost all of us footage. He had a bunch of footage. There is so much footage. Well that's because Joe Exotic wanted to record everything's there's a couple of scenes like that one scene. Brad you've seen it. I think we're he's. It's it's Christmas time. And he's up on top of the bus he's waving. Oh yeah yeah and I was like come on. This has to be post recorded but nope it is all actual. There's a couple of we even looked at four episodes in like. Is this really the guy? This is an actor right and we looked it up again. Make sure yeah so. You know the clip of John Oliver when he had that I remember when that happened and I was like this guy's not real and then I googled him and he really was real. That was in two thousand sixteen th century members looking at it like seeing some of the running he was running for president and they were making fun of them. Yeah no it's crazy if you haven't seen or haven't watched the Tiger King and you've been waiting everybody's talking about also watch it? I'm rethinking all of my dating tactics now that I know that this man can turn multiple straight men into marrying him also The last episode the craziest thing but Alaska was the randomly throughout the whole thing is rampant sexism in the sexist comments. Christmas like Oh yeah. People are making these comments in front of other women. That's crazy. Bs. What watched hiking all right. My at home recommendation is a movie. It's kind of a smaller indie movie. It's called the wave. It Stars Justin. Long and man now think of his name from scrubs. But it's kind of a weird. I did a cinnamon on it. But I'm GONNA recommend you need to rent it because it it is kind of a trip to watch. It's Justin Long's character. He's like an attorney and he's he works for an insurance company kind of finding ways to kind of make sure claims are legitimate. You know and he gets US big one and he's he's on top of the world but then goes out and parties and wakes up a house and doesn't know what the heck happened the day before because he did some drugs and it's this weird kind of trippy hangover. Ask like trying to find what happened. It's worth a watch totally worth a watch like. I really really really liked it a lot. Yeah yeah late. Maybe I'll watch it. What is it on streaming you? Can't you can rent it right now. There isn't on any of the streaming services so you'd have to sweet after rent. It is a good one it. I really enjoyed it and I love Justin Long. He's amazing I tell you what not to watch. Oh tell me bloodshot. It was not good I haven't seen it it. I mean if you want something to laugh at you know check it out but it's it's not it's it's windy. Vin Diesel. Just trying it. He's he's like the same character he's just dumb being the same guy wearing the same shirts and yeah does he. Drink Corona trying to think if he did wake a lot cooler if he did so that. Wrap up this longer episode. I believe that the cinema guys. Well we did have a lot of movies that we did. We did we covered three and we are during this time of everybody in. I was follow us on our Youtube Channel. Because we're going to in between our recording weeks. We're going to do our what we call the corn stream where into a little just a livestream chat. I just want everyone to know that when Brad. Jay Corn Stream. He had a smirk on his face like he was so proud of her name told a joke. And I just tell the guests in and just kind of have chats also everyone else's calling these corn streams no. No no no I will. You heard it here first folks. I worry free cinema. Guy's name is reasonable to me. No I came up with it now. Corn streamed so if anyone else says it they owe us royalties where calling it. The core stream over. You'll be doing those in between our episode releases so check those out also join us. Yeah join us in the chat. Ask US QUESTIONS. And we'll be back in two weeks. We are going to have our first patron picked movie to do. We don't know what it is yet. Your biggest patron can pick movie. But we'll be back with that so watch for that in a couple of weeks and I can't say until next time we will see you at the movies. 'cause nobody can weight if you're in. Korea. I can see because the movie theaters aren't closed here. The cinnamon and we'll see you could see you at the movies. No we'll see when the corn the corn strength. There you go today. I'm fine. You're the one over here and then starts messing me up in my head. Maybe it's maybe it's my audio because it sounds like you're like I think it's your audio because I'm pretty sure he was pretty clear there. It was. You know we're going to doing sorry. I really was like what is she doing you. Are you making fun of him for something?

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What Responsibility Does A Filmmaker Have To Fans of A Franchise? John Wick, Willow, Peter Mayhew, Cobra Kai, Mission Impossinle & Sinemia

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What Responsibility Does A Filmmaker Have To Fans of A Franchise? John Wick, Willow, Peter Mayhew, Cobra Kai, Mission Impossinle & Sinemia

"Whoever when a welcome to slash home. Daily for Friday may third two thousand nineteen unto these episode weren't talk with the latest film and TV news. The slash home editor in chief Peter Surata, enjoying the two spot CASAs slash on managing editor tak-, Paul. Hello. Hello and writer, Chris Vangelis STA. Hello, folks. It is Friday tomorrow is may the fourth or either of you doing anything Star Wars related not at all. Maybe I'll jump on Twitter and say once again that is my favorite Star Wars movie. And then spend the day getting death threats that might be fun. Why would you want to ruin your weekend? Normally I'd be doing something I'm going to in award show for a for magician. So I have doing nothing Star Wars related. But anyways, we at the start off this episode of the podcast with some sad news something broke yesterday. And that is that the man behind you Baca has died at age seventy four Jacob would. We know. Yes. The family of actor Peter Mayhew his statement saying that he passed away in his North Texas home on April thirtieth and Peterman. He was best known for plane tobacco. He was working in an orderly in England when they needed a very tall actor to fill in the suit in Georgia was cast him. And he spent the last couple of decades returning to the part in movies and playing Baca on TV specials and commercials and more importantly prising apart for a charity events in working with other foundations to cheer upset kids and raise money in generally being. A really respected person who was kind to his fans kinda children in well liked by his co stars. And by the filmmakers involved, Melissa hours movies, and he wrote books for children about what how important to be different than how not the bullied other. He started doing foundation to raise money to get food for families in need, and he gently used his Star Wars fame to put more good into the world than, you know, leave it a better place than he found it and the family did not announce how he died, but he has been battling health issues for a long time. He's had a knee surgeries and back surgeries yet severe pneumonia us, go to choir hospitals, -ation and he's talking. Well. And the thing that made him do Bach has his seven foot three inch height. Also, you know, it's hard on the body especially later years where he was in wheelchair and had the pass on the role Baca to another actor for the final films, and nobody who's met Peter Mayhew at a convention has ever negative things about him. Peter. I. Like even to even to Balki. He's not saying words, there's so much character in its performance like to Baucus so defined by his head tilts in the way carries himself, and that we can't undervalue. What may he bought this part? He as such an iconic role in these films, and you mentioned like the conventions. I would see him at almost every convention in like that you know, that row with all the people from battle star galactica and stuff, and he seemed genuinely one of the few people in that row that like wasn't just there for the money and was enjoying the interaction with all the fans. And I know he wasn't a part of the last two Star Wars films say he was replaced. Well, I mean, I guess he was partially replaced and force awakens for some of the more more mobile sequences. So anytime you see him sitting down in that movie that is Peter Mayhew. But last July he was not in it because he was not well enough to do it and. It said, I do know. I mean Peterman, Hugh, who we had a hard time finding photos for this article that we wrote up on the site because he's such a tall guy that everybody wants to shoot him in vertical. Dude. I mean like you wanna do that? And that doesn't work for our site which needs horizontal images and almost every photo of him onset of the Star Wars films. That has his mask off. He's like holding a cigarette in his hand this guy that smoked like a chimney. And I mean, he lives seventy four. That's that's not bad. Chris. Do you have any thoughts on the passing Peterman, Hugh? I was unaware of all that charity work that Jacob mentioned. So that's that's touching to hear actually had no knowledge of that. So that's pretty amazing that he did all that stuff in his his lifetime. And you know, obviously, it's always until he said when someone. I KAI passes away. But you know, Sony five is a good a good run. You know, obviously, you could always live longer. But at least it seems like he did have a full good life, which is more than some people can say, yeah, for sure, and I I know we also have an article on the site that rounds up all the kind words from his co stars from the Star Wars films, including Harrison Ford. Mark Hamill, George Lucas and more J J Abrams I'll link than the show if you want to read that but we must move on. Let's talk about John wick chapter three the first early buzz hit the web and couldn't your own T Christie did around up. Our I is this movie as good as chapter one chapter two. Apparently. So I could not find a single negative reaction. In fairness, the film has not screened for everyone yet. Like, for instance. I haven't seen it a lot of critics. I know actually, I haven't seen it. There were some very early. Screenings for junket coverage. So that might explain why they're so few negative coverage at the moment. But literally every review I review every tweet. I could find last night was not just positive, but overwhelmingly positive everyone says, you know, the action is even better the mythology is is even better there were few people who said that it's not as good as part two. But it's more entertaining. If you wanna make sense of that. But yet there's there's not a single negative review. I could find yell again that might change. What's more critic, see it? But as of now, it looks like John wick chapter three is definitely going to deliver. If you're a fan of this ranch is which I feel like everyone is I don't think I've ever met someone who doesn't like this franchise at least a little the only time that they are not a fan of this franchise is if they haven't seen the movie, yes. Yeah. Exactly or their dog lover. And don't. To see the movie, Chris, I know you have a problem with in a mole deaths on screen was hesitation of not seeing John wick. I did I did have reservations. But I sucked up and saw it. I will admit that anytime, I rewired the first movie I fast forward the dog Desi just because I can't I can't do it. You know once was enough for me. You know, I don't know problem with John wick, murdering people but the minute of dog dies. I can't take it. So whatever I really watch part one. I fast forward that's eight. And thankfully, there have they haven't killed any dog since and I guess sort of a spoiler, but H T R O H E who saw the film confirm to us that there are no dog deaths in part three. So we're safe on that front. I'm safe going into that. It's that we're going to get a dog actually killing humans in this. Yeah. And that's fine. You know, I'm a okay with that. Just kill the dogs dig up any more excited for the film. Now, I am thrilled. Go on the record about my feelings on John wick many times. And I do agree that it's hard to watch that puppy die in part one. But I also think that John wick is one of the very few movies. Even does outlandish way to actually have a sincere emotional reaction to a dog death and actually treat it with weight as opposed to being an example of how scary something is. So knowing that Heli Barry's character in the new movie has a couple of dogs. We probably are trained stunt dogs who bite lots of bad guys at death, the dollar get the revenge this time, and I'm very happy to hear that. Okay. Let's talk about willow. We you know, when I talked to Ron Howard for solo Star Wars star. He told me that something was in development. It seemed like he was not involved. Now, we have learned more. It seems like it's a sequel TV series, and he might actually be involved. Jacob we now. Yeah. Howard was on interview on the happy sad confused podcasts. And he talked about the willow series. That's being pitched to Disney. Plus, and even though Howard in the past that she said has not been clicked into it seemed to know a lot about what's going on. So I'll read a list of as quote here. He says there are some really serious discussions going on with Jon Kasdan who was one of the writers of solo who kept hounding me about willow, the whole time we were shooting and also hounding Kathleen Kennedy. We are in discussions about developing a little television show for for Disney. Plus, and although there are no actual plot. Details it's suggested to be continuation of the movie taking place decades later and following Warwick, Davis's willow on a new adventure thirty years after he rescued a baby, and they baby will be grown up and hugged him saying baby here and not much detail suggested I had not seen willow in quite some time. And that that's true. How teams the kid so Peter strong, Clemson willow is this universe? You want to revisit because at the time. It wasn't a big hit people didn't react to it. Like. Much at all in the eighties by flake. It's gonna following since. Then I remember loving it as a kid, but I was also in love with everything that Churchill did. Or wasn't Lucasfilm was involved in back. Then I haven't watched it in many years. I'm guessing it probably doesn't hold up. I would like to see them doing this. I mean, it seems like this is the take that work. Davis is going to be part of it. But probably is going to be more of a legacy qual where he takes a back seat. That's maybe you know, that growing up baby now or or his cater something like that. I haven't seen it in years. But I do remember like when I was a kid. It's one of those things that I always just when I was very young. I thought it had something to do with the hobbit because it's pretty much a rip off the hobbit. And I think it was not until I got older that I realized they were like separate things. But I do remember when I was a kid. I did enjoy it. And I remember there being this huge cardboard stand d for the movie in my local. VHS store, and it was there for years, even well after the movie came out, and I would always just stare at it every time I went to the store, and that's how old I am. Do you think there's any chance of having Val Kilmer reprises role as bad matter Mardian, he was like a swordsman in this and kinda crazy role? The do you think there's any chance that Disney could convince him to be in the TV series killer would be gained by always also been ill in recent years, which is a shame. So I would I would hope that he'd get him back. I think that late period Val Kilmer has been untapped, you know, fountain a potential that a lot of films have not made full use of. But I'm just hoping that he gets to act at all continuing recent health scares so fingers crossed that we get to see him at all in this. Okay. From Disney streaming service to another streaming service YouTube premium you to piss announced that they've ordered a season three of covert KYW, which makes me excited. Chris. What do we know? Yes. Cobra KAI the only show. Oh, Peter watches has just been renewed for a third season on YouTube. And it's clearly their biggest hit, you know, YouTube was trying to get it on on the streaming game with I it was called YouTube Red's. And they changed it to you premium. And they had all these these shows, and then they pretty much canceled on all of them. And not only are they giving Cobra KAI third season. They're also making the decision to make you to premium free with ads now. So instead of having subscribed to it, you'll be able to watch it just with commercials, and it really just seems like other than Cobra KAI, this YouTube premium experiment has been a bit of a failure. But at least at least fans got this out of it. Because like Peter people seem to really like the show what I think exciting here is this series. I mean, I said on this podcast before it was one of my two favorite pieces of content that I watched last year it all. Of movies and TV and I am a season two is not as good as season one. But it's still very good. And I'm excited that now you YouTube premiums like original content is going to become free for everybody in the joy. And maybe some of the other slash whole staff will finally get a chance to check out Cobra KAI and verify that I'm not nuts in the the show is actually pretty good. Maybe. Straight stranger things have happened. I still haven't seen the movie I had. So I I have to watch the karate kid. I Chris ice. I watch Crotty kid maybe six months ago for the first time thinking, it'd be like a hokey thing. Maybe I'd enjoy like as a guilty pleasure. But I was surprised it's actually genuinely good movie. So it holds up stream on Amazon prime lease. It was when I watched it isn't as good as the movie sidekicks with Jonathan Brandis and Chuck Norris because I've seen that. I'd say it's about half as good as that, Kris. Okay. There's Pat Morita was actually nominated for a kademi award for crazy cat a lot of people. Like forget that like actually we're said Jacob good performance. It really is. Yeah. So anyways, hopefully, people will be jumping on the Cobra KAI bandwagon. As moves into its third season. Let's talk about something that's kind of unprecedented. I don't think I can think of another occurrence of this ever happening, but sonic, the hedgehog. Doug, the trailer came out fans were upset over the work of sonic in the stroller in I guess, the director because of that has decided the director in studio has decided to appease the fans of redesign sonic Jacob. What do we know deeply audit story broke late yesterday? You're all trying to leave work. Jeff fowler. The director of sonic, the hedgehog tweeted, thank you for the support and the criticism. The message is loud and clear, you aren't happy with design. You want changes? It's going to happen paramount and say are fully committed to making the character the best he can be. And if you were on Twitter since that's trailer arrive, you saw all the memes. You saw all of the people like freaking out. But how weird sonic looks like his sneakers or like regularly sneakers? They like the size of the game. Which is you know, like a little too big and acute way. He's no longer has those like a comic white gloves. He now has white fern his hands. His like large cartoon is it becomes BB humanizing as weird human teeth. And he he looks genuinely a pleasant like looking at him into nightmare. It's a bad design, and I don't know where design came from the pretend to know what concessions were made who pushed what's to make character design. Go through. But it doesn't look like sonic. It looks like a genuinely unpleasant like, you know, how when they see like here's a artists drawing. What Homer Simpson looked like in real life, actually, gross looking? What the sonic looked like it? Apparently, they're going to paying love over time to visual effects artists because they're going to be doing it completely for the movie, and I'm not a big sonic fan. But in in the book console wars, which I've talked about on this podcast before there's entire shopper dedicated to how say Marica helped redesigned time at character. Or that game was coming off a second Genesis in the early nineties in how they looked to Mickey Mouse is an inspiration for how to design an appealing character. And is all the changes that they episodes in that book for like how important it is assigned to look like grab people's hearts are things that were jettison for the speed is on. So I think back to the basics approach is necessary to make sure it doesn't creep people out. But what do you guys think? I mean, they took all the style out of him. Like, he like, they took like that kind of animates fired like the legs and everything, and he just looks like they were like, we need sonic, look, like he exist. Sts in this reality. And you know, what I don't think people care about that. I it said that all these visual effects people are going to all these animators are going to, you know, not see their families, it'd be working overtime to fix this. And there's no way this movie is going to be good. Like, it looks horrible Christie of thoughts. It's just the fact that this is happening at all crazy that you know, I can't even imagine how much money paramount is dropping just to get this quote, unquote. Right. And. It should have never gotten this far to begin with. I mean, you know, whatever you think of I haven't seen it yet. Whatever you think of the movie detective Pika chew based on the trailers and the footage we've seen that. That's how you should be doing that sort of design if you have to bring a a video game character life just look at that Phil because it looks right now he doesn't look real. But it looks right. That's like the best way you can describe it, and this sonic film. Does not look like that. It just looks really first of all it looks really cheap to begin with like looks like they spent no money on this, which I know is not true. I don't know what's up with that. But at the same time, it's like, no sure they can make sonic look better. But I really don't think that's gonna fix the movie based on the trailer, which just looks really bad. So maybe they should spend more money on the script. I don't know how much fan outrage is gonna take for them to have to fix Jim Carrey's performances, Dr robot, Nick. I don't know they went with all due respect the sonic fan sock. Fan dam is deeply bizarre and deeply committed to a character. Who has not had a good game about twenty years. So I don't know. I I was the outrage over to sonic design. Did not did not surprise me. But I'll say lack of outrage over Jim Carey dominating that trailer. I can like it's nineteen ninety eight again did surprise me. So who knows what happens? Like what happens if they unveiled the design and everyone hates the redesign. Or are they gonna do it again? Like, oh, how far is this gonna go? I almost want like this is just keep going on like all right? We're going to redo it again, they just keep redoing it in the movie never comes out. This is also a very dangerous door to open because once this happens with one film property like fans now think that this is something that's possible with anything did. I mean, they already believe that they can sign a petition and get them to remake the last Jedi. I with. So I mean now now, I guess those people are justified in some way. Oh god. That's. At least last tonight was divisive. I feel like every single person in the world sonic fan or not looked at news designing fringed. So. It just makes me wonder what conversations were happening behind the scenes because it's easy to laugh off latch, because it's so stupid. But the reaction was at universal on sonic. And like I said, even my wife who has a place on a game since the nineties. I showed it a picture, and she's like gagged when she saw it was very upset by it. It's just weird. Because I I'm wondering like, you know, film is an art. I understand it's also a business. They're not making a sonic movie. Asana Clive action movie for the art of it. They're there to make money. But at what point does it become where when the art the artist is changing his vision of the movie to appease fans like when when like it just feels like that's just going to muffle. It's just going to become less of a distinct vision here like like imagine if remember I remember when the first photos of the expert. Men, bryan. Singer of X men got leaked online on Nicole news fans threw a hissy fit over that. Imagine. If Bryan singer was like, okay, we're gonna go back and reshoot this with more traditional design like it just feels like that would generally lead to a worst movie. Yeah. Like, I don't I don't see this becoming the norm. Like, a great reason example, I remember when they show they released the first images of the the new pennywise from it almost everyone was like, oh that looks terrible. And then it turned out to be great in context movie. Everyone ended up loving it. So there has to be some give or take here that said the sonic design was actually scarier than the pennywise Zayn. So I really don't know. I don't know where that line is. Let's move onto mission impossible to writer director Christopher mcquarry recently. Made some comments about the upcoming mission impossible seven and eight he says that those films need to quote. Swallow, the last three movies whole Chris you wrote this up for the site. What what does that even mean? Yeah. Chris I'm require. He did an interview with empire. And that quote, basically boils down to him. He started to he says. Find the area the actual code is. I'm freaked out now. So what he what he's saying? Here is he you know, it's dawning on him that he's he's has this very daunting task now because he's been involved with the last three mission impossible movies each film. You know, progressively gets crazier and more exciting and more thrilling at now, not only is he making the next film. He's making the next two films back to back, and it's sort of dawning on him that he has to really top himself. Yes. The top what he's done three times in a row year now and make something even bigger and crazier and do it twice. And so it it just sounds like he's having like existential crisis, basically where it's dawning on him that this is going to be very daunting task. But I have faith in him. Because I think he's a great writer. He's a really good filmmaker. And if anyone can can do this. I'm pretty sure it's him. How? Do you do this though? Like, I feel like Tom Cruise or more likely the the character. Ethan hunt has to die. No. How would no don't even say, Peter. I'm upset you would even suggest that. Only if he comes back from the dead. That's like he should die at the end of mission possible seven so they're gonna go in insanity were. Yeah. Exactly. And then he comes back somehow eight that's the only thing I'll accept Chris. What if the last shot mission? Buffalo seven is. Ethan hunt falling to his death. We see his by the pavement if the opening shot of of eight the paddles hitting his chest and waking up and getting into a fight. Exactly. That'd be great nearly even if you explain it that much just like, oh, he's back. And I'd be like this is great. I love these. Yeah. I don't know what they can do in these last two movies. I feel like the done almost everything. And I don't know what kind of stunt, Tom. Cruise can put himself in is going to top everything. He's done in this franchise us FARC Jacob. Do you have any thoughts? I buy my racial joke. Was course, go to space, you know, give Leedle on musk couple million bucks petanque who's on a rocket. But I think he actually is it Chris mccart actually shoots down space even jokingly in this article. So I don't know. I I feel like you've got to find another tall building. Handcuff Tom Cruise is steeped to his legs throw him off. And we'll be thrives. Okay. Let's talk about own life story. Let's talk about cinema. This is something. I I was at in vendors and game screening on Thursday nights. Weaving that screening with someone who had paid for a year subscription of centimeter, and I had to inform them that the service had officially faltered officially shutdown cinema is dead while somehow movie paths lives on Chris. What do we know? We all thought at this point that movie pass would be gone, but somehow movie pass still clings to life support. Whereas cinema has flatlined there. There's been rumblings of this was going to happen for a few weeks. Now. You know, they're they've been in to has been in legal trouble because there's a class action lawsuit against them about bumping up their prices on warned end. They seem to have had the same problem that MUI pass had they couldn't find a way to make this movie subscription service profitable. And at the point now where they they've just fully pulled the plug. They're not even trying anymore, and the the days of cinema or gone that said, you know, there is still room for the movies inscription service business, the AM sees A-List is doing really well. The draft house is gonna come out with their own. So there's some sort of secret formula that some people have figured out to make this work, but people like cinema and movie pass can't quite nail it down even though again, but you pay us is still around in a shadow of its former self yet. I think that secret formulas having the cooperation of the movies that are exhibitors. Yeah, that's probably a point. Yeah. That that that would definitely help Jakup. Any any thoughts on cinema cinema cinema? Still sounds like a skin condition. Okay. We're going to end it there. Jakup we're gonna find more your work on line slash film dot com every single day. And if you like game of thrones, we have a big we could gave him thrones coverage for you next week. So buckle down. We very exciting. Chris where can find you slash home dot com every day, and I'm on Twitter at sea of Angeles to four thirteen you can find me at slash on. Also media you can find all the stories we've talked about today on slash home dot com and linked in the show notes slash on daily's publisher, weekday and itunes, Google, overcast. Spotify all the popular podcast apps. Please feel free to send us your feedback. Questions. Comments concerns to us at Peter as dot com, and please go and rate and review this podcast, and I tunes. Tell your friends spread the word that we will see you on Monday.

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"We're all the boy in the bubble"

The Endless Honeymoon Podcast

1:22:03 hr | 7 months ago

"We're all the boy in the bubble"

"Hey endless honeymoon podcast listeners. This is our second episode of the week are bonus episode and Big News. We just launched our youtube page so you should go to Youtube. Channel and Subscribe Mash. That subscribe button. It helps us when you do that. Tell a friend about the podcast to get them to subscribe on Itunes. Or wherever you get your podcast. Five Star leave a review and the second episode of the week will not always follow the format of our standard of our standard episodes. This week. We take a call but we also do some kind of Calls that aren't necessarily relationship advice. We don't that's the second we could be more of an experiment. It'd be more of a a hang tag reckless expand. It'll be wild. We'll do wild abandon also you if you're starved for promotion and a TASHA content. Watch our special on net flicks. The it's actually called honeymoon. Stand up special on Netflix. I got a brand new album up. It's called crowdsurfing. What are you doing? You got nothing else to do. I also got a book cash in the right by that. Get Natasha old album coke money I mean just go wild with content from us and also let us know if you have any issues Kala. Yeah calls your secret email. Endless Honeymoon pod at g mail DOT COM Let's start the show. Hey everybody welcome to the endless honeymoon. Podcast that's the Tasha jarrow and that was a cashier who got it. Got some updates for you. Got some hot updates. Since last time we taped the day after we heard the doctor tell us we could go. I could go surfing very excited. Los Angeles County shut down every single beach. In my birthday's tomorrow. I wanted to go to the beach. Well we would have to drive outside of city limits and it probably wouldn't be responsible speaking of irresponsible. My friend who has covert nineteen is in his cove. Nineteen bed right now who? I surf with all the time. Andrew Sean is his name. He's got a podcast called podcast but outside. He just put an instagram post up with a with a sick pick. You know. It's like a hot sexy. Pick where you have like Cova but you kind of look good still. And that's not really a thing yet. Hit his Texan. He has a mild case and I was texting in to be fair. He hasn't gotten tested. So you're not. He's not exactly. We wouldn't go tested today. Oh you didn't tell me that he doesn't know if he has. It did go get whatever that big cotton swab shoved up his nose today but he was like thinking he had all the symptoms of it. I was texting with him and he goes. You should go surfing right now. It's really empty and I go I. I don't know that seems pretty irresponsible he's like. I don't think it's irresponsible. Where are you texting me from again? Literally convalescing and your Cova bed right now telling me best practices for out of social distance. You can't take advice from someone who has covered. Never take advice on responsible social distancing practices from somebody with covert nineteen. I I totally agree eighteen. Okay Dude you gotta do not so novel strain of the Corona virus much less novel short story. Yes you go for it. We've been. We've been walking doing family. Wa doing some family isolation walks and we will run into other people with kids and we have to hold our kids back one of King. Yeah one of the most depressing parts of the whole thing is like the kid at our age doesn't know what's going on which could be a blessing and a curse right. I mean if they if she really knew what was going on would be like what the fuck is happening. Why am I not able to go outside anymore? But generally just all of a sudden were around all the time she doesn't go outside or see her friends and we. We went today right. We walked by our friends house. Brendon Walsh and waved through a window. Like two little kids like best friends their little daughter and our daughter waving at each other through a window unclear what was happening. I don't really think the kids at to really know what's happening. But they know they want to hang out with each other they also think that they want to like only use a knife and like only eat syrup wrong too dumb to notice kind of an Andrew is to the to the way we have an update also on the on the German Shepherd Situation. So so this woman comes over. We meet this dog last week. Very scary to me. I was a little too scared and like one day went by the day after I said most you should tell this woman were not interested in the dog so I was going to go texture but it was one of those. You know those kinds of texts where you're in a business interaction and the person is so weird that you kind of know when you say. I'm not going to buy the thing I said in the Tasha. I think she's going to not be cool. The reason why I wasn't going to be cool is because she thought it was normal to just leave this vicious dog at our house with nowhere for it to sleep. Not Having met are three other dogs and only met our baby like for one. Second right do we. I don't know if we talked about the fact that when when at the end of the petting situation where he met the dog for like four seconds she was like Oh comeback on Thursday and give you a training session and we were like great. That sounds great. So we'll think about it until Thursday and she's like no. I mean you by now and we were like We just we don't even just meant the dog. You just said all these things. It needs like a Kennel and all this other stuff we don't know. And she's like she kind of huffed off I go. It's a big decision and this is the big red flag she goes. It's not a big decision. It's like a hundred pound German shepherd that she claims is trained to kill as you just tick now. It felt very. She started laughing at me because I asked if the German shepherd if it was okay if it was forty degrees outside for it to be sleeping outside is wearing a fur coat anyway. She texts Moshe. Would you please read her last tax our tax? I said very respectfully I said I think we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA pass on the doll. We've done some thinking. We don't think we're ready and she wrote back. I wouldn't have wasted my time. I'm very busy and was well. I'm sorry for the MISS. And she said so. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Good luck selling the dog and she wrote back. Actually I was thinking about you and your family and you're in the middle of a crisis and are not emotionally ready for this dog. I'm like below the. Why were you going to sell us? The dog with a hard pressure of a used car salesman or a timeshare salesman and then. I was like okay. I didn't write back and then she writes again. I knew she was going to write those. This good luck in overcoming virus. A definitely sarcastic. By the way this part I kinda liked your wife surely needs to learn some manners but what she says. The end is the best. Tell her if she invites people to the house. Don't tell them to put gloves on. This is just best practices. I don't know what she's talking about. I think there was a time when he touched a doorknob. And you told me to put a glove on before I turn the door. No eloquent the very end when she left. Cobra this covert. She's very nice to her the entire time outrageous but then this line at the end I kind of come back on her side a little bit Texas. The third text. You are really need luck to live with her so sorry and you know what she's right. I am really need luck. Need luck to live with me. Look but you blame me. No because I said tell her. I'm not ready for the dog. So now she's like mad at me. I didn't do anything to her. Except at one point I guess when she was leaving I said Moshe make sure to use a glove on the door. Because I thought that's what we were all doing. It's almost like she doesn't believe in cove it right and she thought I was like. She's probably too tough to get Kovic. She's a Russian German shepherd trainer who pretends she grew up in Los Angeles even though she sounds like a KGB agent she'd be the worst KGB spy ever no. I grew up in grenade the heels from here I went to Michael. I went to Hollywood high school. This is my my hometown Jalil. You must really need luck to live with her and she's not wrong right when you think of it. I I must say that on the air. We'll I told you we shouldn't read it. 'cause it wasn't flattering but I mean it's absurd. I didn't do anything wrong. I agree. She's a psycho. I just like fed her dumb dog twenty pieces of chicken. No she's a complete psycho and the idea that you would want to give a trained attack dog with a hard sales pressure. Situation is just completely a red flag. Red Flag City right. I kept trying to get our dogs out to meet the dog too and she was like no not yet right so she wanted to not introduce the dogs but leave the dog. Yeah Yeah So. If you're listening Putin Putin et go fuck yourself so sorry. I wanted to write back Natasha within lend me. I wanted to write back. You're right this is a prison. Do you know any women for me. She wouldn't let me. Well my my. I don't think you ever engage with crazy. You're totally right. But there was so much fun that could have been. But you're right. You never engage. No here's a better rule. You never engaged with Russian crazy people who know your address and trained killer dogs for a living. I think that's a good point. Never take covert nineteen advice from. Cova one thousand nine patients and never provoke a KGB agent with a killer dog collection. Well speaking of taking advice we thought we could get some advice and information a little a little bunker to bunker call with friends Jordan scovill Rory Yeah can you hear me? Yeah we can hear you pretty good. How are you are you? There are gonNA come out from the backyard. How are you guys? We are never been better so good. Yeah you so so so fucking so I was doing some Some minor spray painting of our front gate today and this couple walked by while I was out looking like a crazy person like spray painting my front gate and they asked how you doing and I was like good and then I realized like no one is good at all. You know Kinda Good Kinda you know. I'm not dead. I'm not sick. I guess how people are now. I don't wear a thing. Yeah what what is what is this. What do you call this? And don't know rory. I've gotten some of my most intense social distancing schooling from your instagram and twitter pages. Tell you what I pay for it. I paid for that with what follows not so much on follows. And obviously it's not even that much but there's so many people that they're like they're like you're spreading panic in like shut the fuck up and I'm I a lot of my just delete but some of them. I'm like you honestly read what I'm hosting and you your interpretation of it isn't Oh this even if this guy's wrong is hard as clearly in the right place like no part of you thinks that that'll I'll also like. When is it time to panic. It's like the world is closed down. It's like if there was a time to panic. It seems like it would probably be around. Now Yeah Yeah yes I got. There was a facebook thing I just read from a friend. Who's a comedian? Who was like I just believe in my heart of hearts that we're all going to be okay and you're like what is your heart of hearts have to do it. This is a virus. This isn't like a spiritual lesson for us to learn I o Oscar trip. You can't beat it off with positive vibes like it's either has the rate of spread that it does or doesn't have the rate of spread that it does it's not. It's not about thinking positive. Yeah this shit doesn't care about us. Yeah I I think someone putting that on facebook that's only applicable to like The local news telling you to expect a bad thunderstorms expected bad thunderstorm. That will maybe kill your grandparents so you guys are keeping it really tight. Like I have a lot of friends who say their social distancing and then you like ask them two more questions and they're like yeah but I'm working on my trainer every day and my assistant comes to the House every day and I'm having sex with two different girls but you know they're not having sex with anybody else are shutdown tinder only doing now. What do you think of that like are you? You're very passionate like. I guess I wanNA know like also worry what. What inspires you to be so active. You just believe this is what we should be doing. I don't know I think I think I do get enough people that message me that do work in hospitals and healthcare and some of them tell me to not To not post some of the stuff they they're sending me and tell me what their schedule's been like or stuff that they've seen and I I don't I don't know I do sometimes post political ransom stuff. 'cause I I just get off and I don't really care if if anybody wants to leave a negative commenter or start something but I think with this. I was like well. I have a fifty dollars. Something like fifty thousand dollars somewhere in there and I was just like. Oh that's that's a lot of people that if if they see this. If a good number of those people see this may also keyed this. Maybe they spread it to however many people. Because I I. I don't know I think after listening to Joe Rogan's podcast with the CDC guy. I was fully on board to be like. Oh I believe every word this dude saying and I think it's we gotta like buckle and and we gotta we gotta run a tight ship. That's what we gotta do. We gotTA GET DONALD TRUMP to listen to the JOE rogan experience. I know tweeted at it. I'm sure somebody's tweeting. It Adam Jordan are you as a Gung Ho. And as taken by the social distancing messaging as as roy or or is he is he leading the charge in your couple in your family. Rory is I think I'd say more leading the charge In terms of the cleaning of things. That's coming inside. But we're both heating The social distancing like for example will go for a walk in our neighborhood and friends of ours. Live down the street and they stand on their porch and we stand on the sidewalk like a lot more than six feet apart. And when we're walking the neighborhood we're walking in the street and avoiding other people and we're both doing that but in Roy's little more stringent about an. I guess smarter and he remembers. It's it's like changing new habits right. It's urge creating new habits to remember to clean off all of your your stuff before you run inside and so it's kind of a little disjointed only because it's just not normal it doesn't feel normal and did they were going to have to live like this for a while. I mean I do. I think at least the next couple of months I think and I think it's Potentially forming good habits for us that we should maybe not. You know wiping everything down with bleach before it comes into a house but but keep keep pissing on your cell phone before you bring it inside right. That's yes your urine. Diarrhea are both sterile. So if you can diarrhea on your cell phone or Paeon. You're totally good exactly. It's not just spur. Jellyfish stings people right. Dial on your friend yeah. Do you think we're done with handshakes forever or maybe for generation. Here's what I think. I think I think things are gonNA be kind of as they are right now and still. There is an adequate amount of testing to see who has what and who doesn't in order to start. See like I feel like right now. We're everywhere is is so swamped. Because there's no way to know in advance what we're dealing with and I think once there's enough testing We can start to maybe get on top of it but I don't think I think realistically there's not GonNa be a vaccine. That's globally accessible for I. I read something that said. The fall of twenty twenty one and I I mean I don't know anything but all ever read. Is that creating a vaccine. Take so much testing in time to make sure that it doesn't cause other problems Right they say during the one they say you can't Russia vaccine because they have to wait fourteen months to make sure that it doesn't kill the person that took it. Yeah and so so that because that would be a real that would be a real nice irony. Wouldn't it if we all took a vaccine that killed one hundred percent of human human beings? It would almost be the cherry on top of the reality we currently lives in. But I don't even understand how any of this is going to be possible. Like people are going to run out of money in like one month right sense. I mean I I get that. We have to do this but at the same time. I'm like it looks bad on at every level. I think this stimulus I think this stimulus released. Bill is going to to help a lot for a certain amount of time for hopefully a lot of people but yeah. I think realistically we will. We will have if this goes on for a very long period of time. I think we're going to have to conclude that money isn't actually a natural resource that makes any sense for survival anyways knowing that the the system that we're in it isn't that it it can't be broken it can be broken. We just have to adjust to the fact that we have to go back to how things were at some point in time where people just contributed what their skill set was and we may have to do that to read bill during bartering and also just being like look at how many people right now are like. Hey I know how to make bread. And if someone's like why not a harvest flower as long as everyone is like well. If I contribute something might take care of. I think I I mean I. I don't know what that reality looks like to me. That sounds like a more peaceful reality. So what happens? Stand UP COMEDIANS. In this new book the burning man because creating in society. What do we do? We have nothing I can tell you honestly where my head is at right now and it's so stupid but we watch one episode of the Great British baking show with Elliot every day. Yes yes he loves it. She loves it. We love it and I I was like you know if if it gets to a point where people do have access to Food like we figure out the Food System. People just have to stay in their homes. We should try to just get really good at baking and on the back end Will move to British Columbia and will open a bakery. Wait in line the problem with so many problems with this plan first of all why British Columbia they are. They more likely to go to the barter system developed capitalism as we are so long my reason for saying British Columbia as it's so beautiful but also because I'm like you know what is it. I don't know what this country is turning into if trump was reelected. I think I'd have to just move to a small town in Canada where everyone's filled with compassion and cares about each other and all they want is a stand up. Comedian has been baking for four months. I mean if someone is he's look he's got a bakery during the amazing industries and then at night he runs an open. Mike Yeah Yeah No. They're gonNA come in. They're going to take a bite of your morning. Benigo are heard. It was actually really talented comedy. I the mayor. The mayor of the town comes in. It's like we all spoke. We'd like you to get back in comedy. Yeah we'd actually like to ship you. Bet If nothing else you can develop a Sitcom called. Roy's Roy's rolls. I think it'd be a good place to store. Rory's that Rolls Stories Roles Rory and also Jordan guises perspective like I feel like a Moesha's annoying me more than he ever has. Whoa WHOA WHOA. Whoa WHOA like. This is such a hard time when you're in a couple because we don't really get any time away from each other like do you guys have any tips. You seem like you have a pretty like healthy relationship or have you gotten into any juicy fun ridiculous fights. Yeah I mean I think are fighting is probably been the same now. It's just all about our way of life. I have different little bit of a different perspective. I think that you guys tower together. So you guys were together on the road. Answer Home Rory's out on the road more often than not an. I'm home by myself so for me. The adjustment is like figuring out how to share our space. Because normally I'm home by myself after Elliott goes to sleep and like I've got my space and there's nobody else I can do whatever I wanna do and now it's rory and I together and I make her make her nude models for me. That's so funny. I thought what you were saying you were going to say was. Roy's on the road all the time and I'm by myself and so this has been a really awesome opportunity for us to reconnect as a couple and you really zig zag. It's slow in coming all the time in the world. Yeah Yeah yeah totally. Yeah no I don't know that I've been home this much. So I'm it's It's an adjustment. Feels bizarre to me that. There's so many things at home that I've wanted to do and I every time I'm on the road. I always wanted to be home and spend more time with our kid and I'm like I'm you know trying to find the silver lining and not completely throw away the horrific tragedy. That's occurring outside. I go oh. There is something from this that I am getting to do. It is weird it that Natasha's play this clip from this rabbi. Who was like I? Some of it was a little bit like over the top. Like you know all of this. God's will type of message but the thing he said that stuck with me was all of us. A lot of us have convinced ourselves that going out spending time with our friends being on the road partying. Eating in restaurants being in bars is a working is our life. And and now we're home and we're not doing any of those things and we're still alive and still experiencing our life and so it just it. It's kind of like how the Buddhist think about a mind that you think of your mind as that like anxious monologue. That's constantly telling you you know you're not good enough or do this or do that. But then you start. Meditating you realize Oh. There's a mind underneath my mind and it's kind of like that like with what life is like that. I thought that was a really profound ideal. Now that we've shut our lives down and we're still living our lives like maybe we weren't noticing that we were. We were kind of ignoring large parts of our life this whole time. Yeah well that's that I agree with that. I think that's a great Statement I that's what takes me back to Earlier about the the money system crashing is that realize the anytime I got on the road and I get paid. I'm always just like oh. I'm I'm really fortunate. I have a job that is is fun to do. And it's I I get paid solely based on on me just being who I already am. There's something that's so fulfilling about that. That feels great. And I'm sure that's something. All comics relates to is like what a what a great thing to be paid for. But I'm always like but what am I trying to do with this money? It's it's making it just so I can stay alive and it isn't a thing that actually keeps you alive right right right right because now here we are Roy. You're such a hippie. Honestly such I want to. I want to be but I I. I don't know how to fully embrace it and that's why I wanted to call you. Guys are my Delilah AH comes to the market I have been thinking a lot about lately about how at some point in human history we created money out of thin air purely just somebody was actually this Puka. Shell equals a bag of grains now and then and then we kind of like we kind of lost control we created the market and then we kind of lost control of it and then people like a two thousand years later like I can't pay my rent at one point. It was like what do you mean rent? We all built this hut together and now it's gotten so out of control that we're like you know what we're actually willing to kill grandma for this thing we have to. It's almost like we created a god and then it's literally the terminator like we created this thing. We can't control it. We we've lost control of it now. We're we're trying to make a blood sacrifice to hope that it will appease it and the rains will come again. You know what I always. I always think about how How the really rich people whether famous or not but just really rich people and like the lifestyle that you can live as a rich person I always. I always like in the event of End Times this this worship of rich people or famous people it would literally in they snap of your fingers. It would go away. Suddenly you were like. Oh we have to fight off this pack of wolves and go you. Wouldn't you wouldn't look to your right. It'd be like where's Godot. Dash she would be like. Do you have a weapon and be you know what to do because we're counting but does that mean that we should start like learning how to use weapons. I don't think that day hoping that day never comes but I couldn't tell you I don't know you are hippy. After all if you're telling everybody to arm themselves it seems like become a hippie toward. There's a Natasha did you have something. No no Oh there's a passage I read in in World War Z. Of all books. You know the the Bax Brooks Book. Yeah and it's it's really this fascinating idea about the zombies come and all of a sudden societies decimated and all of a sudden all of the people that were the most powerful the lawyers and screenwriters and politicians and you know the Intelligencia the rich and powerful people that had spent their lives developing skills. That weren't functionally useful. Were completely like at the all of a sudden at the lowest rung of society because they had no value whatsoever like nobody cares and and all of the people that they had employed you know like their security and the Gardner and the and the and the contractor and the cleaning person. All of those people had real life skills and so all of a sudden they became the most powerful and important people in society. And I. It's like we're so close to that whole can't do anything. Me and Rory what can you do? I can like have sex and like cook or you'll be a prostitute that's respectable career. Choi career the child. What do you mean you re re your first? What do you what do you mean what am I gonNA do? I told you I'm going to have a fucking Baker is going to be a baker paper Jordan. What are you what will you do? What will you do in the apocalyptic future? What were your job be would be. I think that we can go along this aching route. So you enroll your bakers. I build something if they had to be built our house. So Roy British Columbian Bakers. Natasha and I can keep watch the children and entertain the Tasha a woman of the night. Yeah and I am Jewish so I will be taken care of no matter what happens. We have a secret bunker where we all go at the end of at the end of even in our small post-apocalyptic town. You still have the secret bunker. I just go to that. Rabbi the video of this week and they'll take care of me yes perfect. Thank you guys for talking with us. Yeah this is great. Thank you thank you for reaching out from your bunker to our bunker. We love you guys. Love you Tuesday's thanks okay. Bye-bye I was going to say on that call but I'll just tell you now I was just kind of teasing you. Don't you're not really annoying me? That much of what I was going to say is I one thing I should have said to them. Which has been helping us is doing like exercise or meditation or Yoga Videos Warriors. Something we've been doing we did. I did a youtube work. Youtube is crazy. The resources on there I came downstairs yesterday. I wanted to kick boxing workout. I did a kickboxing workout today. I'm a little sore from all the squats I did. I'm like I'm going to do an APP Zorka. You and I didn't work together and that you can do a twenty minute a thirty minute a one our own. I forgot to say something to he was talking about. The medical professionals will reach out to him. I had a medical professional reach out to me on Instagram. And she was like please. Don't say my name because I'm not authorized to speak for the hospital and I looked at her instagram eurorail. And it was so like hilariously not her name. It was something like you know. Xbox three sixty one to three or whatever so don't worry you're good but she was saying that it's important for us to get out the message that the hospitals are incredibly short of a masks. They need those. All of those n ninety five masks that you hoarded if you have a hundred a box of them an extra box. You don't need them as much as the first responders that are in the hospitals right now. That are literally day after day coming into contact with people that one hundred percent covert like my friend. Andrew Sean. The Surfing Legend of the cove in nineteen community. If you have them contact a local hospital and drop them off drop them off so that those people who are putting themselves in harm's way don't get sick. I think that people who hoard masks like anyone who's like I'm going to buy five hundred masks for me and my family. They're not going to give them back right. You don't think there's any celebrities are just hoarding mask. Well there's other people that celebrity if you've got give them if you know anybody spread the word maybe yeah half of Senate tweet about it. Put An instagram post about Get the message out And speaking of getting the message I thought maybe I don't know if we should do it now now I thought maybe it would be cool to. There's a comedian who actually does have covert. I read a post that he did. He put about what the experience was like Colin. Yeah I thought we'd call them tonight and And Talk to him about what felt like what happened to him. How scary it was. How scary it wasn't he. Has I believe a pretty mild case has it? All the cases are mild. Well let's not. I know I know I know but I do think that like people who are on the young side right now are kind of torn between staying inside or rejoining society and just getting it right but the problem with just going outside and getting it is not you getting it. It's US spreading it. I know so. Let's see what it was like from a real person with real cove in nineteen. We are going to call his name as Chuck Armstrong and we're going to give him a call. Hello Hey Chuck. Hey Hi it's motion casher in the Tasha Lazaro colleagues or you do not sound sick. He's like hello I am. I am totally over it at this point. I am I am through it. How do you know the head because I got tested? Well let's start at the beginning. All right first of all chuck is very funny. Stand up comedian and we worked together in in Seattle many years ago. Yeah yeah actually. I'm I'm half of a double activists. Sketch do of And I opened my act called Charles. We opened for you in Seattle. And I WANNA say two thousand eleven. I remember the show. It was an epoch. Show it was I. It really was a fun. Awesome night what was really funny about that was I remember because you were the headliner. like a lot of tickets were selling more than normal. It was the monthly. Yeah Yeah it was the monthly Like all comedy show in Seattle. You're the headliner. And so the producer this guy tryst and basically just decided to kind of do a bunch of the local comics solid. So I think that show ended up being like three hours long was like so massive of Seattle Comics Yeah it was a fantastic show and I remember what I remember thinking. Chuck I saw your your act and I remember thinking I really like your partner but you I remember thinking I hope this guy get sick someday. I hope that he catches one of the one of the worst global viruses that we've ever seen and wow it's crazy. How prayer prayer works was funny. That's actually the most common review that our act got back in the day Alana Craze for Charlie and just people wishing all kinds of play can blight upon me. Well you got all those. So let's start at the beginning. What happened at the beginning? How did you feel? What did it feel like at the very beginning? So yeah so I I should say like this seems to be affecting everyone totally differently like they ought to This is just me but I woke up on Tuesday that I guess it was like a ten. I think Yeah whenever that whenever that Tuesday was and I felt like Like like a little sick like I felt like I maybe had picked up like a colder like a really mild flu And so I had like. I like aches and chills and Like was tired but you know nothing that I thought would like that big a deal And in fact I had I had a show that was supposed to go on that Thursday and I called my my producing partner and I was like. Hey you know. I'm feeling a little sick with with Kobe. Going around like should we talk about cancelling it and he was also like I. You know I'm also feeling a little thick you know we'd been hanging out that weekend working on the show so he was like. Yeah you know I think I think we should just like. We're probably just got a cold or something like that. I was coughing. It wasn't a big deal where you did you do the show. No we ended up not doing the show so this is on Tuesday the show on Thursday. So then we get yeah. We get to Wednesday and then Wednesday was the day when all the Sports League started cancelling their seasons and we check in again and we were both like yeah. We're both still feeling about the same. We're not feeling You know not. We're not coughing. We're not feeling really bad. But like you know. Maybe we should just think about cancelling the show so we kinda hobby. We cancel the show but we were both a little bit like you know because this is dumb. We just have a cold like you know. We're being overly cautious but we were like. Yeah there's probably the smart thing to do I still felt the same like on Wednesday. I honestly felt like I like had had You know like just like a cold And then on Thursday. I started to feel a lot worse like I got I got like a bad fever. Basically beginning Thursday nights that. That was the night that we would that. We're supposed to do the show so we'd already canceled it. I was already like we're in the clear there Thursday like my aches chills got worse. I definitely had a fever at that point. That was also when I watched. That was when I watched tombstone more. You mentioned tombstone a lot in your description of getting over and I really liked Yeah well let me tell you when you have a bad fever you know you. Haven't you have a lot of time to sit on your bed and think but the diversity of thought that you're capable of entertaining is extremely limited? So you can really just focus on one thing. What we're most of the thoughts beyond tomb state. I'M GONNA die. Oh well no. I know honesty. Am I going to start coughing? Start coughing because that was because he just contagion why I hadn't watched contagion. I was a little bit like I don't know if I should watch this going on. Definitely out good choice to pick. Tombstone and not contagion. You would have had much worse. Thank you thank you very much. I mean Val. Kilmer does play a guy with tuberculosis don. Actually this seems a little more similar to to Burke Yellow Sus than it does to. What was it called? I don't remember what what the disease in contagion was what. Yeah what's the name of the illness from Contagion Tasha? I don't remember yeah. I have to say I'm still waiting to see how this ends. Okay well he felt or to cove it was killed the villain into stone. That's okay all right so all I all all rush through this so basically I val. Kilmer is a kind of these an outlaw. In a way and Yeah Yeah Yeah conflicted you know. And he like sorry all right. I'll stop okay so so I got like a lot worse over the weekend. My fever basic up to one hundred and two and I started coughing. Pretty bad on On Saturday can I ask you about the cough? How did it feel different than a regular like I have a cough cough? Was there something unique about it? Yeah well so yes. Basically but but it didn't feel like a new type of this makes sense. It sort of feels like. Do you know when you have a bad cold. And you're congested and you're coughing a lot of flam right or it didn't feel like bat. I had no like Fleming my lungs. I wasn't coughing anything up but usually at least in my experience when I've been sick like that I- towards the end of the illness will like just sort of cough like nothing up. Just kind of like like they say. Dry Cough is a symptom. And I guess that's kind of the right description so it was not a bad call. I didn't feel like hawking along I didn't feel like I was trying to copy off it just sort of always felt like kinda needed to like expelled. Some Air For two days. Yeah so that Kinda kicked in. I WANNA say Friday Saturday after. The fever started like really kind of noticeably. Started Thursday and Saturday the when you cough did you freak out. Were you panicking when the cough began A little bit. Yeah but I really don't because it wasn't bad right like the things that I've been reading had been like people getting the Monja and people you know like having a hard time breathing and I didn't have any of that like it was just like a kind of like an annoying cough almost like Almost like you cough like when you buy you drink too big glass of water or something and then you gotTa Talk Right your throat. But it was like that intermittently you know I was like I would call like that. Every you know every twenty thirty minutes just a couple of costs this just a couple of cough Or knew exactly what I was expecting. And then but I mean it was never. It was never so bad that I had problems breathing. It was never so bad that I Like was concerned about whether or not I'd be able to fall asleep. The KAKU keep me up like the thing that was most concerning to me. Was that my fever. Got Up to one hundred and two and I couldn't remember the last time I had a fever. That bad right like I don't think since I've been a kid had I had a fever of one hundred and two or what. Were you delusional? Where you feel like I had like some pretty like weird fever dreams like like. I couldn't remember any specifics but like I was. You know like very clearly like I and I like not to be sweating through the clothes that I was sleeping in so I would like put change of clothes out and I was like having been fevered dreams and An interesting feeling fever always got worse at night so I would wake up from like a nice like I'm getting better. I'm fine and then at night like around. Ten o'clock would feel awful like horrible and the only thing I could do was crawl into bed and try to fall asleep. We take tylenol. What we taken. Oh Yeah so I started I started taking advil pm when the fever I came on And then I was reading about it online and So this is I should say also. In the interest of responsibility this is just anecdotal but The I think the French Health Ministry remember the French equivalent of the CDC. I don't I don't know what the proper name is and I'm sure it's not an English probably in French so whenever I would be wrong it's institute Delta Tombstone I believe Yeah exactly yeah. That's exactly right. It's wow how serendipitous beautiful after that film. Yeah 'cause the Turkey Laos's they They add put out a statement saying there were some concerns that I do pro Finn Exacerbated the symptoms and I read some of the like I think it was like A. There's a there's like a paper in science. There was a scientific paper that I don't remember where I found that was about that. Topic that was describing. How like the receptor? I don't know I don't know the Science and personally I can't be specific here and whatever I would probably just mislead people anyway but like they're like sci fi to make sense from what I read it was like. Oh Yeah 'cause affects your cells this way and the virus does the same way like they might. They might make the situation worse. So I switched to Tylenol When I was going to bed so I was taking tylenol. Pm At night. Before I go to sleep and that that did seem to really help The advil didn't seem to help But I didn't notice it making it worse so I don't WanNa like lead people astray and then since followed up a couple other health ministries have said like no. There's no evidence that this is true. I don't know why the French said this so I don't know if that's the case but in my experience advil didn't seem to help. The tylenol did well regardless of whether advil bad. Everybody does seem to kind of agree that if you're having low grade symptoms tylenol does seem to help people. So that's that's at least good i. We're not medical professionals but we are comedians. Comedians are philosophers comedies. Like a church comedy clubs. Churches COMEDY SETS ARE LIKE PREACHING. And so in that way we're leaders of the community so incredibly hot take thanks now. What comedians do we kind of were were the thinkers the philosophers were? They were the kind of the neo journalist so Natasha did you. WanNa cut me off and say something. I'm still WANNA know so from March tenth. When was it over ten days situation? Like you seem very like in very high spirits right now. Oh yeah I feel fantastic right now the whole thing and and basically took twelve days so the fever broke surprisingly like almost immediately. When I woke up on Sunday like I went to bed. Saturday with a really bad fever woke up Sunday I should say I was sleeping like twelve hours a night like my body was just was beat so I would go to bed at midnight and wake up at like noon or one any any any masturbation at all or too sick for that I would say man. Let me tell you. I think that's how you know that is bad news. Yeah masturbation this whole time tune stone yet but now I mean this this that accident well credible. That's that's pretty intense Sunday. The nights breaks. I wake up and I'm and I'm feeling more or less fine. I'm still coughing. Though and I T- I call my doctor's office and my doctor was like the receptionist said you know we don't want anybody to come in but the dog like the opposite set up like a video conference so I do video conference appointment with my doctor and I know no masturbation during that either. Well I mean a little bit. I mean you know I was sitting on my desk so it's kind of a hot webcam situation role play as a cam of I. Don't CARE DOC ROLE. Playing situation the good way for doctors to make money. So so what did they ask you? he actually my symptoms. It was a it was a guy he was the guy. It is a guy a male doctor. He died that it caught on the Webcam. Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah he like he described because to me and I had to make a really sexy so it was to do that. He died of Horny now. He ran on the. Yeah Yeah He. He went down to symptoms and basically told them you know it was going on and he said he was like okay. There's a good chance you might have it. You should get tested if you can You know we don't have tests here at our office He's been so there's a couple of hospitals in New York One of them was Bellevue Hospital interesting. Which I've only noticed a mental hospital. He said they've got a ton of tasks he said. Otherwise I live in Brooklyn so he was like. If you're in Brooklyn maybe try Try and urgent care so okay so I went to. I went to an urgent care On the next day on Tuesday already feeling. I'm feeling about the same and they held on Monday but I'm still coughing a fever anymore as you're going through the streets of New York. Are you like extremely freaked out about getting people sick? Yeah so I was wearing a mask I happen. I happen to have an M ninety five. Valco from yeah. I haven't had val kilmer one of those plastic Halloween Sarah. That'll do it. Because I got a few you know and so I was like this will work. This will filter out. Yeah so you have a are you avoiding people I was then I mean I'm still isolating. I'll get I'll get there. Get there at the end of the story. Oh sure so so at the time. Yeah so I I had a mask so I I was wearing the mask. I had a couple of bottles of hand sanitizer so I was like sanitizing my hands pretty much after doing anything. I would open my front door. Tenant has my hands before and after like any time. I opened the door to the urgent care. The doctor's office whatever I was doing And also I will say like you know like of course like they had hand sanitizer stations like up like three or four places inside Inside the reception area. So you're gonNA earn care and they're like we don't have any cash the only place that has them in Brooklyn his stadium D which I don't know if you're listening to familiar city. Md is kind of like a walk in clinic. Throughout New York It's like an urgent care but But I think like you know a little bit less hospital adjacent so I had never been to one but it was cool. It was very well. Run you check in like a little electric key off. And they had you know. Massive hand sanitizer stations. Next all of those I go in to talk to the doctor there and they tell me okay. We do have tests but you. I mean my thirties there. Like you are not at risk. You don't have any prior health conditions long dishes so we are going to test you for the flu. I so I had to have a flu tasks which was like a nasal swab and like it'll take thirty minutes for this so I had to like hang out and Doctor'S OFFICE FOR THIRTY MINUTES THEY test came back negative and then they were like yeah well We're going to test you for covert. Now it's going to be the same thing but also because I'm low risk low priority. You know they. They said they're not going to be able to get the results back for four five days from. You're not going to rush it through. So they said you know act like you have it go back into social isolation you know social distancing whatever as much as you can act like you have it so. I said okay. When did you you start coughing? More just to really get into character like just to make sure they would give me the task when though just act like you have it like. You're already feeling better. It's kind of difficult to get a handle on the character like you might WanNa like really give give it. Give it a lump. Yeah exactly similar to what kilmer did in tune where he really kinda cultivated the call right because it's it's unlikely that kilmer actually had to Berkeley losses during that role. It's extremely guys method actor right. I don't know maybe he found somebody you know to like. Get some Turkey losses. You as. He was preparing so wouldn't be SURPRI. I wouldn't put it past. He's a great actor. We can all agree on that. He was robbed role. One of the best top-five easily five Batman so so you go home. You're freaking out. You're acting like you got it. Yeah well I will say this though I. I feel so much better than I did on Friday Saturday right so like Friday Saturday I was. I was very freaked out. I was I was sick. I had one hundred degree fever. I'm like am I gonNA have difficulty breathing Kinda like what? Natasha was earlier. I was just like sort of like I gotta start coughing and will get bad when I do But at this point I'm now feelings by and the cough is still. It's not a bad coffee so I don't have a hard time breathing. I'm just sort of like it's. It's like a light competent. It persists basically like all of last week. I got a call Friday or Saturday. And they tell me they're like oh you're like you tested positive for For a virus and I'm like what does that mean and there was like okay. Well you had it and you still have it and You are like you should remain isolated from you. Know Your family if possible. Bur until seventy two hours after Citizens Bear jokes on them. I live alone so I liked that. They really concerned. I like that. They assumed it they look at you and they go so stay away from your mom and Dad who you definitely live with. Yeah one look at me and like like you're going to have. Yeah your mom your dad in a tiny apartment you all live in. Stay with. Stay away from all nine. If your roommate's that's going to be very important. Yeah Bush apartment with five hundred other COMEDIANS Ping so now are you immune to it like you can only get at once so I mean like the sort of. They don't really know what it seems to be like from everything I've read and from what my doctor told me both my my doctor and the doctor at city. Md who tested me is that It's I'm basically immune to the to the strain that I that I have. So they're like you're fine for that and you know probably like most likely that would be that version of it that I would be exposed to again in the next you know six months or whatever but they did say they're very worried about Mutation they don't know how much the thing is mutating and the extent which it's mutating whether you can get infected again so they kind of told me they're like look probably you're you're fine but we can't say that with certainty like we don't. We don't really know it's too early to know so they said. Please continue to use an abundance of caution. Please continue to distance yourself as much as you can. Which is feasible. By the way can we just take a moment acknowledge? What an amazing time. This has all been for the phrase abundance of caution like it's having such a moment right now. Like how often do we use that phrase prior to this as a reality like once every three years of college never heard more chuck? There's an abundance of abundance of caution being said right now that I couldn't agree I couldn't have said it better myself. I agree wholeheartedly. My Sane of the phrases increased Li nine hundred percent so so. Are you taking an abundance of caution? When did you feel like all better? I felt better basically on this path like this past Saturday Sunday like I was like Sunday. I think was probably the first thing that I really like. Felt like myself like truly like myself. What I wasn't it's been is even though like today. I feel totally fine. Totally normal but I still didn't very tired so whatever it took my body to you know get over. The illness like see like tired me out entirely and even when the fever was gone I was still extremely fatigued like still sleeping. You know ten eleven hours a night. I'm sleeping like ten hours a night. No problem But otherwise I basically started feeling completely back to normal. I WANNA say like around. Sun like basically Saturday Sundays. Like twelve or so days after After the first sentence came on was about when I started feeling dot com myself. I have an idea. I think you should get one of those now gene bottles. Look I WANNA show one of these big like. It's like these huge. I don't know forty eight ounce things of water and make sure you're drinking that much a day. Oh Yeah Well I. I am drinking out of a novelty mets souvenir glass dot at a Mexican. That'll do it Scott. Because it's got the ounce measurement on it to make sure you're not getting rift on the beer for twenty four five ounce glass so I'm drinking like three or four of those today. Yeah I mean it. Just out of an abundance of caution you should be drinking fluid. You know that's not good at drinking it abundance of fluids but it's easy to forget and I sometimes think having a measuring thing especially if you need to stay healthy is is important because you can go a whole day without drinking water and not even realize it Mel Chuck. It's your now in the seventy two hour past symptoms zone is that do you think that? Yeah I yes. Yeah so what are you doing? Are you back in the world are you? Are you walking around like skipping through Times Square going I I had it? I don't have no more. Who wants a hug? Yeah I'm I'm looking subway. Poll you know. It's normal cell. No but I really am seriously curious like now that you've had it and you don't have any more like are you more brazen. Are you still social distancing? Like what's the deal? Yeah so we'll visit a couple of things right like so first of all like F freezing in New York is totally. Shut Down Bro. Bars and restaurants total totally closed Like copy shops totally closed. Even if I like you know it's not like apartments coolest place in town like you know what I wanted. But you don't WanNa go hang out with friends Bear they're not gonNA lead their apartments and I still have to you know. Take the subway or or take a taxi or left or whatever to get there so it's not like it's not like there's a a you know like a big world of activities to walk back into you. Couldn't find some irresponsible millennials to go hang out with and smoke a joint with or something. I mean I I I guess I I got on. I'm not on Tick Tock. Maybe that's where they all hang like underground cova then. There's gotTa be you here today. Actually a news story that broke. They had like an Ironic Cove Party in Kentucky. Like a bunch of young people. Like fuck this. We're fucking partying and then one of the people at the party. Has it now and probably the entire Party is going to get it? Yeah I mean they got so. That's the thing right like people are like. I started feeling sick and people on my block. Where like throwing Corona Party? I don't this seems to be pretty real guys. The right time to be really not using an abundance of caution agree chuck. You might agree. Took I think that's a good use of the phrase? I have one last question for chuck to. I know that we've kept time. What's like what's the vibe in New York right now? It's pretty eerie frankly It feels weirdly desolate Like I mean there's no shows there's bars closed like that's crazy. Bars or closed. Restaurants are closed. So I like because I'm feeling fine now. I have like gone out on walks by myself. I'm still tried to social distancing thing because you know abundance of caution et CETERA. But all I can walk around the park and you see people like people have you know trying to keep this and then people are in math right and it definitely is like it even still way less crowded in the park like for whatever it took people seem to like. Now be taking it very seriously like you. Don't see people out right I haven't ridden the subway. And like I guess this happens over two weeks ago And Yeah I don't know you people coming up out of the subway. You don't see it just. It just seems weird. It seems sort of Eerie and desolate. I think it's like go ahead. I'm going to say it's like if you've ever been in New York City on Thanksgiving Day it. It kind of feels like that every day similar here in Los Angeles. I think you should get a t-shirt shirt printed that said I had Cova I'm immune now Lee and then ladies question our lady. Yeah something like that as late as ladies on the back or is it all on the front. Oh I kind of like the back. That's kind of fun and then here's the cool thing once you're done using it for your personal life when New York it's up and running again you can probably sell it to a bunch of those gift shops in Times Square. Yeah it's a really the idea. Ocampo could sell up to like one of those like really overpriced vintage clothing store anymore that it costs to make a real covert. Natasha had another question. Okay I have one last question because you're the only person you're the only person I've talked to. Who has who has Kovin? Oh right yeah so before you got it. Were you in any kind of like situation where you would have been around a lot of people have you or do you feel like no other than being in New York which is such a like a like an accountant. Obnoxious answer. But it's like I don't know I think like the L. Train Services. Like three hundred thousand people write a day and I was writing that every single day. Virus can incubate for up to two weeks. So if I was like if I had it you know and had no symptoms like I was getting on the subway every single day for. You know that it's a crazy. New York has the perfect perfect incubation center for this disease. It's so Man It just really drives home the New York versus La thing like La wins with a bullet. Wow Man yeah man like yeah you know. I didn't I didn't expect to come on your on your podcast thrown by having the La Corner slammed the big apple but no but it is kind of Irian scary to think about like everybody. Everybody who had covert in New York was writing in a fucking tube with a bunch of people that didn't have and vice versa. I mean it's like that is really disturbing. We also think about like I mean all the activity right is necessarily also really crammed in. It's going I'm going to. I'm going to comedy clubs. That are like tiny tiny basements in the lower east side. I'm like I'm going to the bar. Senator Washing Islanders Gamer. Or whatever there's people there like everybody's touching the same stuff like if you're on the subway you're going to bars. You go into restaurants like yeah. It's it's pretty scary. I think that will. I don't know I think the impact of the virus on New York specifically is like much much much. It's going to be much more severe than I think anyone is expecting. I've had a buddy of mine here in New York has all the same symptoms I had and he now can't get tested because he's alert priority exactly straight won't even give them a pat straight white man just another thing another widget against us brother and that's what we really wanted to talk to you about. Thirty can't believe he was. My friend was white. You know it's amazing we own. We only only a stick with our own race friendship wise. It's really awesome again. Another thing that's really positive about L. A. Versus New York. Check your so cool to sit on the phone with us and let us like Ascii so many questions. Yeah thank you so much I do I I really. I'm happy that you're well. I think it's important also to say that what you had sounds like a typical version of the incredibly mild version of this. And Yeah so please. Usually I'm gonNA say yeah because the thing is just seems to affect people totally differently like anything you read like. I think I got incredibly lucky that I didn't have any trouble breathing that I didn't have any like any of those things that can happen to like. That are having a lot of people right because my experience was that I read your update on facebook and and I was like Oh this is like it really brought my anxiety level down to be honest. You know because I'm like you know I'm young and I'm healthy and You know and then I read somebody else's Description his symptoms and he's also young and healthy more than he is yours. He was forty two. I'm closer to that than I. Well I don't know how old you are. You said you're in your thirties. There's a big old spectrum but anyway yeah what are you in? La AROUND FORTY IN LA. But I I look thirty nine in La and that's because of you know they say white don't crack right. Yeah they do say that it's a classic saying that abundance of an abundance of Melanin a dearth of melon lack of Melanin. Don't cry at any rate so then I read this other review review. The Internet is ruining the via review of Govan but another description of a healthy forty two year old. I mean an athlete triathlon runner. And it fucking ravaged him man I you know he he had exactly what you described but then it got worse and it got worse and he the fever got worse he put himself in cold baths and he was taking rescue inhalers and and then if he said he felt like he was right next door to death and so I just yeah to the. If you're listening. This isn't Chuck's chuck story is not necessarily A. Don't worry about it. It's just a it's a it's a it's a look at what What this feels like from somebody? That didn't get absolutely through the ringer done it. I'm so glad you're healthy now. Chuck Yeah and and Selami. Hey Mama Yeah one last question before we let you go. Have you masturbated? Yeah well a New Yorker never tell fair enough that's another say a New Yorker tells. Why don't crack and an abundance of caution? I'll bet you there was an abundance if and when you did that gotta be after that build up after Kobe. Build up on New York and Emma tells you Brooklyn accent if it if it drives the Point New Yorker tells a New York couldn't have most you. Well Chuck thank you. You told a lot and it was incredibly fun to talk to you and in Enlightening and we're so happy that you're feeling better. Thank you. Thank you so much Thanks for having me on Guy We'll we'll we'll linke on all the socials and stuff to our people appreciate your time. Thank you very much. You too bye-bye okay. Well this is. The endless honeymoon podcast. Regardless if it's the bonus episode or not so what would we be if not a podcast? That does some relationship advice. Who Do one call okay? Let's do one all right. Let's do one call. Yeah we'RE GONNA Call Charlotte in Dallas. Hello SHARLA SHARLA. It's Natasha Moshe. What's going on guys you know? We're just co in our Cova. Dan and Smell there's a faint smell of bleach around us all. Yeah Yeah we're kind of trying to stay positive. Yes period. Weird time happening What's going on with you? Okay so give a little bit of a story I So I've been in my house and it's like last Tuesday when my job sent me home trying to work from home becoming a teacher to a seven year old at the same time My husband's still working. He's considered a central staff at the hospital. So we're not really totally isolated. Because he's obviously at the hospital So to add another layer nine months pregnant and due next week and like I'm scheduled to induce on Tuesday hopefully doing all this before like hostels get overrun and while they're still allowing the partner to even be there while you birth And also it's like I were to get sick or anyone around me get sick. They'll isolate the baby which is like insane and think about and So with that being said I've like told some of the family like hey if you haven't been quarantined like you can't come to the house and we get home. I'm sorry like even though like it's totally understandable I still feel kind of Dick about it. the main line is my dad. Who takes everything really personal? He can be irrational. He's like the typical Grumpy Long Island Jew and give an example. One time he came over to my house and I've adopted a dog and the dog like wasn't pumped to see him because he's like the Beuys adopted dog and my dad left my house mad. 'cause my dog goes and takes tiny to be fair. A lot of dogs don't care for Long Island Jews. I mean that's especially in Texas Texas dog. Yes they could. They could smell it on him immediately. But I mean that's totally you're right and you have to have those boundaries and I think it's smart to have those boundaries and I think that you know if your parents don't understand they will soon take it from me parents. Just don't understand so it is your dilemma. What do you? What do you say to him? I don't know I don't know even know why so. I guess it's it's in my DNA to feel guilty So he just I still. He's going to be a rational about it and I mainly the the first reason why like I even contacted. Y'All I think he'll talk about like weird quarantine situations now like well during pandemics hedda weird you know. No doubt pretty calm him. Call seem like you're pretty measured in like ready for for what you seem like a pioneer woman who was just ready to take charge your pioneer. Do One of the few one of the things you do you feel. Do you feel any strength. That's from all of this or do you feel like how. Where are you feeling as a pregnant woman about to give birth right now I mean I've definitely had a couple meltdowns just imagining like It's like this is my husband's first child my previous daughter. She's seven I was actually single when I gave birth to her. But I was good friends with your dad. Like unlikely. Like it's all good as it possibly could have been. But it's still not the dream you don't want to be a single person giving birth and we are you allowed to have a child out of wedlock in Texas a real question. No Kidding Yeah. So so he is. He more freaked out than you are. Because he's not had a child before Yeah he's just. He's playing really show. But I asked the Lincoln we scheduled to do some Tuesday over. How are you feeling about that? Like no nerve wracking. So I think it's not really GonNa hit US talk happening But my main thing was like I really wanted this time to be normal. Sure of course early culture. It's not normal but whatever And so now I'm like what the Fuck Kinik. What if he's not even able to be there in the sit there for two days in the hospital by yourself so I have a a little bit of a meltdown about that but then I'm hoping as of right now not shutting down as intensively as like they have in New York and stuff like that right and if they do you'll get through it? You know it. It'll just yeah. Yeah I mean I guess but I mean first of all. I think both Natasha and I because of our experience. And you've had this experience of already already with how intense it is to have a kid period. I think we're both am I right in the desert kind of in awe of the fact that you're you're going through this it's already so terrifying and you're going through this in the most terrifying time in our history like honestly like you know we down. Kudos to you for walking through it. I mean. That's the thing about pregnancy though it's like it's common the baby baby common. It's like Omar. Common baby become basically. Your question is like is it. Are you being rude to tell? Your parents can't come like I'm not being rude. It's just like how do I even approach this irrational person? I mean I guess I just do it. And if he acts crazy like if not me. That's not my problem fingernails. Just say. We're taking social distancing very seriously. It's very important for these next three weeks to be. We'll reassess it at this time. You know we love you. Can we please facetime and zoom? You're like basically as you know because you've already had a kid like your DNA you know your spiritual DNA gets reconstructed when it comes to having a kid something so incredibly helpless that you that you are the person that's sorta take care of it so like if you're worried about your guilty Jewish DNA making you feel like guilt. I I have a feeling once that baby comes. You're not even going to be tripping off of your irrational dad going like what what about me. What about the dog? I A dog now this. You know it's like you're just going to be like sorry no you know. It's like the guilt. I feel like we'll go away when the primacy of what you have to do with that little kid comes but in terms of making your dad because like probably he's being annoying and irrational. Because he's like scared and sad right. I mean that's reality of it and also that hope that whole boomer generation like isn't doesn't WanNa be old right they don't WanNa admit that they're old and they don't like social distance that much right they want to just say I can do it. Everything's Fine I guess that's that's a fair point. But that's not the that's not the point here isn't that he needs to social distance. It's that you are social distancing because you've got a hospital worker and your house and a newborn coming like so I think to me like did you see that video. There's I mean going around. You know I'm the king. There's a mean going around. A three generations was social distancing. It's heartbreaking picture of a A Dad bringing his newborn to his debt to his father through a window and the dad is on the inside looking at the little grandkids. Have you seen that now? Seem like the anniversary one but yeah so it's something similar so as Corny as it is like. That's so an option for you to take your newborn baby over to your dad's place and say this is look in hold. Hold your child up like Simba in the Lion King or Kunda in in roots and say here is your grandchild. And it'll be nice and it'll be sweet. It'll be all that he can get. Because that's what you're offering. Well all the boy in the bubble. Neha we're all the boy in the bubble. That's so sad. Well here's a positive. Here's the positive I'm just realizing right. Now it's all so scary but I just know that everything's GonNa be okay for you. You'RE GONNA get through it no complications. Everybody's going to be healthy. I can feel it. The positive is there is literally no time more well suited for shelter in place. Then I now the months after having a newborn I mean we did that. We did that. Two years ago without the pandemic pump. That I just get to be alone with the baby totally. Also you seem so calm like what's your secret marijuana yes. I love getting high when pregnant I don't no I think just I've been busy becoming a teacher. 'cause now school's out for like a couple of months and there's been busy and you know doing laundry and vacuuming eating And just knowing that it's going to happen either way it'll be good. It will be good like you kind of feeling like a housewife right. I I kinda I kinda feel like that. Yeah I know it's it's real weird. It's Kinda cool to not have to work and get to. The sexes like nine sitting at home like existing very pregnant thinking about Takao income for him. So yeah that's so hard to get that baby out. You can facetime your annoying dead every day and you can show them the baby through the window and it's going to be you're you're about to have the the nicest incubation period. Anyone can have in these trying times because you get to hang out with your new baby so excited for you. Thank you very much. Thank you good luck by. I mean yeah. That's something I mean inducing on Saturday and yeah that seems like a lot. Universities like don't have kids and you're like I got one hour. It'll be here Saturday but I mean God the kind of can you imagine being the dad been like come on? Let me just touch the baby a little bit. I mean what she is going through seems very intense. It isn't a because now I just read in New York and I don't know what did she live in New York Dallas. I read a New York. Yeah they're they're thinking about in certain areas. Not letting anyone come to you come with you got to give birth like not even a husband a Dula. Nobody your. That's scary. If you couldn't have come with me I would have been so afraid. Would you have chosen me or the Dula? No you really don't know but it was such an emotional time I would. I would have a really hard time. Maybe the second one idea. Okay right. You're a little bit more grizzled well. Jeez to everybody out there at that's the thing I'm thinking about. Is it everybody out? There has their version of the freaked out like circumstances at the I mean. This woman's is particular and specific and intense but like there are old people out there that are terrified. And there's people out there that are That are immuno-compromised people out there. People living with diseases and diabetes and HIV lupus. And all this stuff like everybody's got their own little crisis in like that. These are relentless times viruses. Don't care about your heart of hearts but we still have like each other. And that's kind of beautiful thing shelter in place. We're all sheltered in place. And we're all connecting to the people that we love and I loved what the doctor said last week. He said social isolation not physical physical isolation not social isolation. I thought that was good luck. I feel closer to my friendship circle than ever. Because we're all calling and checking on each other and that's been actually really nice and it's nice slick that video that you sent to me you know there is more to life than going out. There is what you have at home and inside and there's always the movie tombstone which I I WANNA get podcasting. Go Walk Okay Okay. We'll guess thing. I thought I'd tell you before we go again. I really I love tombstone. I think it's a good movie. Well you guys like kept talking about this movie that I had no reference to know. Let's go watch it. You want to watch right now. No sounds awful. It's a western. You love Western's with Val kilmer. It's a western with VAL kilmer. You know actually does a good. Let's go do it. I do like Westerns. 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ep 87: There's a band of Huns re-enacting Top Gun

So it's a show?: keeping up with the Gilmore Girls

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ep 87: There's a band of Huns re-enacting Top Gun

"Hello and welcome to sell to show podcast reattempt and always succeed because we're the best to keep up with Laura Enron as pop culture references on Gilmore. Girls. My name is the Queen. Does that make me ice woman? I mean, you could just be anything I just made up. I don't WanNa be goose. You don't have to I. Mean I. could be chicken. That is also an option. Maybe. I could be codename spring break. Perfect I mean you have to say it with confidence though because. We're the greatest there ever was at podcasting We're heading into the danger zone of podcasting. You might say it's girls gone wild boys doing the twist. And I am spring break. Deal with it I'm a lot of fun boom. But. Also, my name is Kayla. You know if you wanna be normal like that. I am also called Taylor feel free to also call me madeline or Louise feels like a synonym of spring break in the sense. Yeah I'd say so. We're talking a fun eighties movie fun. I don't know why fund we're talking to the eighties. Enjoyable. And it took place in a warm place just like this episode of Gilmore Girls did. Yeah on the. Beach. Not. The same beach different coasts different. Should we give a little rundown of which beaches were talking about? Okay, well, the episode of Gilmore Girls we are talking about today is gilmore girls for seventeen girls in bikinis boys doing the twist for clarification rory death say girls gone wild in the episode. The episode title is girls in Bikinis. Not sure why the change maybe it's shorter fits in TV guide Donau. This aired April thirteenth two thousand four. Anne I'm Debbie plot summary is Raleigh in Paris flea from rainy dickens like late winter for a week in Florida for college spring break with the socially Awkward Glenn and the Fitness Freak Janet. Harsh but okay. There Rory in Paris meet old. School. Friends Madeline and Louise the party Queens of the area who gives them some pointers party in which Paris goes out of her way to get some attention. Knack. In Stars Hollow Laura Juggles with her growing romance with Jason while she's forced to bail out luke from jail when he's arrested overstocking his former girlfriend. Also current wife. Yeah. So I see worry they might say former girlfriend, but it's actually current wife. To be divorced from. Though trying to rekindle in failing because he's not wearing his socks factly now wearing his socks. I have to say this episode for Rory's part of it not a fan because again. She's starting to like Dean again and calls him and I just can't handle any of these episodes where she's trying to get with Mary Dean. I don't like it either. This is not one of my favorite episodes I. do think there are funny moments I like the. Laura Luke story lie the wearing socks. I think is a funny and then kind of turns into this really sad moment where you realize that Nicole is cheating on him. I think works really well, but I'm totally with you. I just. Cringe with all the rory and dean stuff. Yeah. as love life just goes in the toilet from our perspective as Laura -lize romance. Goes. sprite where we want it to be yeah that's pretty true although I do think it's funny and re watching this episode earlier today. That guy that she's Kinda flirty with. At Spring break in Florida that I don't think ever gets it name he kind of looks like a Taller Jess which I think is kind of funny. and. That is about the extent of his character development. And I do like when Paris Rory get to Florida and they're like t field. It's warm. Can, this is good. Yeah well, and then at the same time, Paris is dealing with her Asher thing waiting for him to call the which I don't like that relationship but I do think it's funny when Rory in Paris, they choose instead of doing crazy spring break things to watch the power of myth on their personally requested VCR. In. Their hotel, room. Yeah Paris. She's got all the connections. Yeah and that actually when Peres no, she's good at something. I, think she's really funny. She's like here I'm GonNa give you five Bucks Go Gimme a soda. Like confidence But when they first hit the beach. This is a conversation they have. So. Loud out here. You never think of the beach is being loud and there's a band of puns reenacting top them not to. Throw it back now. So Taylor boys ran acting topgun. What's that? What did that look like in your mind back in the day? Well, I'm pretty sure I had seen top gun before watching Gilmore girls so I feel pretty good on this one actually. Not to say that I'm sure our conversation today will enlighten the understanding further. But I love eighties movies in this crease for me started in high school and went through a phase where I watched a lot of them. And I did not watch Gilmore girls to college. So I almost certainly watched this before I watched Gilmore girls. Okay how are we? I had never seen top gun until. This week so Brand new to me so I didn't know. All right. But I knew it was a movie. That I had heard of seeing the cover. Our top then but that's it will miss reference is definitely less obscure than some of the other ones we've done. The title of the thing they're referring to as opposed to. US trying to go is that he would offer I don't know. Yeah. Here's from Riverdale. But it's pretty funny how they decided to use this movie. Yes. So topgun eighties movie. Interesting about it or is that at? The. End. No it came out in nineteen, eighty six, and in prepping for this episode I thought this was our episode eighty six and I was real excited and I just realized it's our episode eighty seven not as perfect as I thought. Topgun came out nineteen, eighty six it starts Tom Cruise, Kelly mcgillis Tim. Robbins Val. Kilmer Anthony Edwards Tom skerritt England Meg Ryan Baby Meg Ryan. Actually believe it or not won an Oscar for best original song for take my breath away which you have probably heard on an all eighties weekend on your local radio station. It was also nominated for best sound best editing and best sound effects editing. And it was the top grossing movie domestically in Nineteen Eighty six. So huge hit. And well, it is not on the American. Film Institute's top one hundred must see movies. It is in their top one hundred movie quotes it is number ninety four, I feel the need the need for speed. So, this is a movie. Also, if you casually mentioned this movie to my parents, they're both like I love this movie. This is a great movie. So huge hit everybody loves it or most people do it seems like to me perhaps you'll disagree with me and your research, but it is a just royal big commercial in it. Of the coat I feel the need the need for speed I did not know that from top gun but I have said it myself I've heard. Many other people say it. So those fun to. Watch. and. Then also the it's classified, I can tell you but the nine to kill you yes and I. From this movie or if this movie just made it famous but yes, I definitely forgot that that was in this movie. Yeah. I live right now from top gun I in my mind. While and as soon as I watched it this weekend I mentioned it to my mom and she's like well, now I'm going to be singing. You lost that loving feeling all weekend. And very quotable movie. very eighties music in it. Oh. Yeah. Allegations all my gosh. Every every song I was like Oh hello eighties. Our. Oh. Yeah. Along with footloose, probably our emotions movies that we've covered. Yeah. So. What happens in Topgun? SKYLA top gun man. It's just a bunch of dudes being bros... Up in the sky in their fighter pilots in their fighter jets, they're the fighter pilots So, yeah they are, which is so odd to be like, why aren't they just in the air force but no, they're in the navy, but there the naval air force as they land on boats. Yup. Sure. I don't know why. That's just not like the navy and the airforce working together I don't know but they like their branches then. And we can talk more about this later but I do want to make it clear. This movie is not a hundred percent accurate to how things are done. In the military so we don't get it right. In how we say they are the official loaded you know. It's because the movies not right and so it doesn't really matter. It's not. We're not making a statement on what the military does. We're not. We're not this in the military Yes don't get your information about the military from top gun. That's all. Good to know. So either way they're the naval air, force. Navy. Now I'm all word I've said, who knows air naval force. They are in the Navy I can't confirm. And there's this school special training like six weeks or so. Over in on the East Coast California Right California West Coast yet they oh yeah. That is the west coast. It's where I am And, it is a top school for top like. Like training for guys who are already in the military And just trying to be the best fighter pilots they can possibly be. There's a trophy involved if you're the top on of top gun. So that's pretty cool. ICEMAN IS VAL Kilmer I was looking. Of course I always do this I was looking for an old instructor for valuable no student and then Tom Cruise looks exactly the same. Yes. He does not age much. I think he has done a great job taking care of himself. Based on the film roles he continues to do he basically his career requires him to stay in great shape yeah. Must be all that scientology magic into skin. Yeah. Uh I don't. Know. Muscles He. So Tom Cruise, this was his breakout role. I mean he'd been in risky business all the right moves, he the outsiders which we talked about way back in the day he even that. was here that I've forgotten he was like a small part not a big deal just one of the gang members because he hadn't become Tom Cruise yet. Yeah. And I think that's the only movie I've ever seen him in where he's just a small part. Yeah. So Anyway. This was the movie that made him a Megastar atop star. ooh, the top gun, the movie business you might say. And he's got his. co-pilot goose and they're besties their just stews being grows up in the planes in the sky and Tom Cruise. He's like I flip upside down I've flip off enemies and I take full of pictures of them up down inches away from their cockpit, a Oh and then Iceland Val kilmer's like. I'm too smart for that. You're dangerous. You gotta be safe safety is cool like me iceman. And Basically Tom Cruise a codename maverick Elliott his. He's got a boring formal name, but we're just GONNA call a Maverick and Val Kilmer Aka iceman, they are mortal enemies because they both want to be top gun. In. That means they can't be friends and they're gonNA destroy each other in a sand volleyball match. And time somebody makes a mistake or gets chewed out. I mean they're just GonNa like intact the other about it. He am and Maverick and goose given trouble lot because of Mavericks decision in Iceman is always there to be like. Should have done it the strategic Safeway like me you're getting everybody in trouble. But an mavericks whatever you may you may be winning slightly to be top gun of the school, but I'm top of the ladies. You sound like Hamilton, there for a second. These yes and apparently his older teen is queuing up you've lost that Levin feeling on the Jukebox in singing to a woman in the bar to get her attention. Turns out, she is one of his civilian instructors she works in the corporate world and knows a lot about planes and I. It seems like she thinks it would be really unprofessional. To be in a relationship with a student. But she gets over that pretty fast. Dang fast yet one day he just like shows up at her house and she's like well, he came all the way here although finding someone out. Oh. Yeah. That's right. Well, he actually showed up so might as well give them a chance. And the two of them. You know I, I guess they fall in love the. Roger Ebert talked about how this movie doesn't seem to know how to people in love really. act. some of the dialogues pretty bad. But you know they do seem to have some chemistry and other both good looking people. So I feel like in the movies, you just assume the too good looking people are gonNA find each other. Yeah, they had a nice eighties love Ballad plane during their love scene and be wonderful silhouettes and one face just comes down on the other. And the blowing curtains in the ground. Off Beautiful Yeah My. High But. Not all of this can be tapped gun and games. Okay. And tragedy strikes. So basically once you meet Meg Ryan Aka Goose's wife and his child you know this guy's GonNa. You know this is going to end badly never have a wife and child in these movies. Now, that just makes you vulnerable to death apparently. Something goes wrong. They're flying in one of their exercises. The plane. Starts Spinning. uncontrollably. and. They have to eject and the. Top of the plane does not open in time. Goose waddled jetting goes straight into the top the plane breaks his neck and he dies in the mid air. And of course maverick, is hugely upset. They do find that. He's not at fault for the accident. There is something wrong with the plane. So at least he doesn't have that on his conscience. But between that in his daddy issues of his dad disappearing. Of His. Yeah, he's like I got to give this up I can't be a pilot. But then he rides around on his motorcycle. And Kelly mcgillis Aka Charlie comes and talks to him. And I, guess now he can go to graduation. he's not topgun balch low gets it. Yeah and VAL kilmer. To his credit he did say. I'm sorry about goose. We all liked him implication. We don't like you but this sucks. And so they go to graduation but guess what? They gotta go on a mission straight from graduation. And, there's just another great moment where Maverick has to save the day. He's the hero and even iceman recognizes it. And then later. Not long after. Charlie starts plan you've lost that loving feeling on the jukebox. An presumably. More, curtain start blowing in their together forever. And he mentioned that he wants to be an instructor at Taka. Oh. And we also forgot to mention that his instructor at Topgun actually knew his dad and he's going to tell him the classified story of how his dad actually died a hero. But. Because it would make the government look bad or something they can't really tell you. What happened? So. If I, tell you have to kill you. Another one of those moments Might play. To finish my. Margaret you of your flight performance was right on that right? Right. I held something back. I see some real genus you're fine map, but I can't say that in there I was afraid the everyone in that task Taylor would see right through me. I just don't want anyone to know that iphone. Tap Gun. What did you think Kyla? First Time. Left in this movie. Yeah. I was thoroughly entertained. Is Fun. I definitely, I mean just immediately. It started just saw like trying to dislike. Move get the all the testosterone fumes away. So. There there were. In the first transformers. Okay. So there were a lot of even with the even the opening tax said the top naval air force men come to top gun and I was like, what about the ladies? Not, invited to the party but Y- there were plenty like in even making bets on he and goose making bets on if. If he could sleep with the woman get women to sleep with them at the bar. So there were plenty of like just. Moments like that but You can get past that. no, there were a lot of like. Exciting flying scenes I mean they're flipping up and down chasing people like that was really interesting and really well done like I could actually felt like I understood basically what was happening up in the sky? And Yeah it was funny. goofy characters to. They weren't like Sirius X. for iceman you know but you got. You gotTa have a villain. Yeah. Even though you was like I never really felt mad at him. He was just. kind of a jerk. But? I don't know I guess I didn't see him as that. Okay. His handsome. Maybe I was just blinded by about kilmer's I mean he did go onto Batman. So. What did you think of it? I think this movie is a lot of fun like I said. Don't think too hard about lines like take me to better. Lose me forever. Jesse I mean it's funny but it's also like. There's a degree to which all the dialogue is at that level mom. Don't think too hard about how cliche it is that he's got daddy issues. It's like a few good men if you've seen, which is a way better Tom cruise movie in terms of like seen part of that is actually a really good movie in which. He's also in I. Think the Navy he's a lawyer and it's an Aaron sorkin script. Anyway that's actually a really good movie, but he's got daddy issues that are really vague and it just is A. I. It's kind of a lazy way I think in a lot of movies just like give character. A little more depth I think obviously, parent issues can be really well done and obviously a lot of us in real life. Issues. So it's not irrelevant to put that in this story but I think a lot of times. It's just a short cut for like, ooh, their damaged in wounded, right? Yeah and I'm super handsome and have excellent find skills and instincts Yeah. Me and my dad, and it is slightly better developed in a few good men but Both Tom Cruise I couldn't help but think. Of that movie while I was watching this one and I was like this is exactly the same thing. So maybe this is the thing that happens in movies all the time. Yeah. But I did say you basically just summarized Roger Ebert Review. He was talking about how difficult it is to make aerial battles in the sky. Easy to follow you were just saying those are really easy to follow, but he's like they did a great job but when it comes to when people are talking be a little more skeptical. So he gave it two and a half stars some very complimentary things. Some other things like he's like this is really cliche. I think it was really dislike the goofy characters that they weren't just like serious. I'm GonNa be better than you like they were also silly and singing Karaoke you times. So. Kept manner tained I do think it's a movie that is it's a really good blockbuster like it knows how to be exciting and it also has very memorable scenes were like you can remember them singing Karaoke. You can remember him flipping his fighter jet down on top of the other one you like. There's so many things about it that are just really memorable even if they're silly. And the music is memorable even if it's Eighties. Super Eighties. So a little bit about the making of top gun. This was inspired by a real topgun school. So the producers, Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer, they already were pretty successful in Hollywood. You've probably seen a lot of movies. These guys have done. I know Geriatric Bruckheimer is on. Like all the law and order TV shows I saying his name pirates of the Caribbean he's producer on that. Yeah we love. Shaq. betham movie on this podcast in the early eighties, they read an article about the real top gun school. And the in this article, there was a lot of great aerial photography and this article showed a lot of people with big personalities and they said the pilots that attend the actual topgun school are a combination of athletes in the sky and rock and roll hero. So we immediately wanted to make the movie which I think that Kinda gets across in the wall that the movie feels and. Finally, Enough Tom Cruise. We all know is a little shorter than most movie stars. He's five foot seven. So He's actually too short to be enabled pilot in real life hall by one inch. However, he did spend a lot of time learning about it actually flying in these planes. So he took a lot of the classes at top gun. So he knew it was required to be a pilot and he got to ride in a Ta four with the Blue Angels. And he did learn how to land on an aircraft carrier. So he did have some experience. Obviously, they filmed a lot of those in a studio not in real planes, but he did know what it was like and the movie was made with the full cooperation of the US Navy. So they were able to provide training for the actors technical, advisers Air Sea rescue operations, and they gave them five different kinds of aircraft for filming. That said, as we said, there are technical errors and things that the movie does not get right even though the US Navy was involved in making this movie. So. For example, they get some of the names of the planes wrong that they're talking about. and. It's just like you said, don't get all your military now from top gun. However the US Navy enlistment numbers soared after this movie came out tons of people wanted to join. And another fun fact of a place that really did well, after movie came out the Kansas City. Barbecue in San Diego where they film those jukebox scenes, they had huge upsurge of business and they started getting props from the movie to show off. By. Smell like I said, this was a huge hit. People really responded to the story and I do think some of that is that it is responding to a real story but like I said, don't get you military information from top gun but I think it's pretty cool that it's actually based on a real place that you could theoretically become a topgun pilot. Yeah now. Do they actually have the trophy every year every after every class he get your name on wall. Now, I could not confirm but I didn't find an interview with a real instructor at the real topgun school. He did not long ago and ask me anything on Reddit. and. He said that top gun is not really like the top gun school. What he said when Topgun made its Hollywood debut, a stereotype about cocky pilots was born. But not every flight is set to an eighties power cord soundtrack there shockingly few cheesy bar serenade in beach volleyball, montages. And at the Real Topgun, EGO doesn't fly. So he said the people I work with our humble approachable incredible. They don't fly for fame or not in the business of good enough. So basically, all this competition I'm gonNA suspect that means they probably don't have a trophy, ASS Even get points like they were doing. Running these different like training exercises in the air. But like. How were they getting points? Well and he said, you don't spend as much time in the air in the school. As you would think from the movie, you spend about five to eight hours in the air most weeks instead of several hours a day what the movie makes it seem like, yeah and he said nobody has cool nicknames like Maverick or. You. All had nicknames on what by there real. Yeah. He said unlike the Air Force Navy pilots don't get to have cool call signs. He does have a nickname though this particular guy he said he wants got sick prior to going flying and he didn't realize it till he was in the cockpit. So within seconds I was leaning over the side of the canopy painting the side of the jet with my lunch. And now, they had to wash the aircraft after this. Now They Call Him Wash Jab. Unfortunately were Lieutenant Kyle Haith he is known as Wash Jab. All right. So I I. Suppose they didn't get. All of their inspiration for this movie from the real military like the point system feel like the point system inspiration probably came from Harry Potter. Liberate needs to be I mean you know Harry after top gun but yeah. Yeah. Yes. So maybe hearing inspired by TAP. Yeah. We'll in it is funnier front another article talking about all the different movies that have gotten. Military approval and others that haven't. Times Hollywood filmmakers liked to get the approval of the military. Or have been asked to change points and cooperate with the military because then they get those things like, Hey, we can use your real aircraft to shoot with and we can get your help and support, and so there are a lot of perks probably make the movie. Easier to make just a few that complied in a few that didn't. Here are ones that were a-ok by the Military Armageddon Air Force One Pearl Harbor. If you've ever heard of those, those were all a okay ones that were not okayed with the military include forrest Gump, the thin red line. Platoon and Independence Day, can you believe dependence? Considered accurate according to the military. Glad that straight yeah. And one. Last Fun fact about military involvement with top gun. In twenty eleven you might have heard about this. China said that they were releasing footage from an aerial combat battle. In they were totally busted because it was actually a clip of top gun. All my gosh. I would expect that from North Korea like China, though it yeah. Come on. Apparently people love the movie top Gun in China, and so it was spotted very fast and my Gosh I don't know how the military like if this was just one person doing this and. They thought this was a great idea or if everyone thought, they could pull the wool over their eyes but. Did Not go over. Well. Wow that's funny. will you know what China is not alone other plenty of other people have been inspired by top gun and taken from it but they weren't governments. They were people in entertainment. Industry. One of our joint I like to call it a joint favourite because I introduced it to you and even adduced in to me to one of my favorites, parks and REC now but thirty rock. Luke top gun. In one club where one episode where Liz goes back to high school. Reunion and she says that everyone was jerks to her but turns out she was. That The new one guy says, still think I'm gayer than the volleyball scene in Topgun. We'll get into that more later and then also Jack and Liz in season four, upset eighteen do the top gun hi-fi for courage. which is also on the volleyball court with. overhand underhand Yes. Yeah. Between. Maverick and goose also. hotshots is a movie from Nineteen Ninety one and that had Charlie Sheen. A whole parody of. Of Top gun of other movies also had parodied a little bit from marathon man. Our personal favorite movie I know that was a movie we both found really fun and enjoyable just. A little different but that moves directed by Jim, Abrams who also co-directed airplane so You know what that movie is going to be like oh I love airplane. Yes I. I like those movies and also I don't, but I recently watched. I feel like the title has the word gun in the naked gun naked gun aren't just watch that for the first time. Recently, there was a moment in there I lost it. So Funny I mean like I'm not gonNA. Do It justice now? The main character what's that guy's name? Leslie Nielsen Name. Leslie Nielsen he goes over to a table. Where two friends are and they say we'll says name is John Smith and they're like John Mr Smith. And he says, you're both right. I. I just lost it for about a minute. Yes I will say not everything in either of those movies has aged well. Let's make it clear. We're not endorsing every joke in those movies however stuff like that to me is just it's so stupid it's brilliant. It's so simple. It's Like when the pilot in airplane has a drinking problem in the problem is that he can't get drinks. Over shoulder. Like that's the kind of thing I just like that's so stupid but it's so funny. Yeah and they just take it all straight face yet different kind of pilot than tech and to be sure different kind of pilot. So another movie to tales and for team America world, police they parody Topgun and other war movies. And Action Movies and in two thousand, thirteen, a computer animated film called Planes Pays Homage Shotgun, and Val kilmer in the Edwards are actually. The voice, some of the characters in that reunited. Fail so good. But a favorites seen to parody in movie is the volleyball scene. Volleyball scene. Feels you know I don't know like grows gotTa do other things besides just fly planes likes and I'm just WanNa play sport and we're on the West Coast Volleyball Right? So but this scene it was it was it was not like a a thoughtful. It'll add this to the story except that Tom. Cruise's checking his watch got his date with his teacher coming up Yeah. I ended up playing in his. Full. Length genes which seems incredibly uncomfortable to me. That's the thing that's out to me in that Scene Yeah Do Their oiled. Naked. Upper bodies also stand out to you a little. I mean in the sense that it's everywhere. Yes. Yeah so the director was just like you know what? less I'm just GONNA oil you guys up. We're just GONNA get some close ups. We'll get some real viable players in here to to some of the spikes that look like you and then we're just gonNa Kinda go forth is like shotted puts sandown, put up a net and went for it and in the Thirtieth Anniversary Blu Ray dvd the director said about the scene A vision of what I was doing other than just doing soft porn. Oh. Boy. So he genuinely his goal was to just do I always hot actors. I'm just GonNa like give the world. Semi. Candy for a little bit. Okay. That makes me feel weird. Say That that's like the take I mean obviously was noticing these are attractive people who were all very fit. I don't feel like I maybe if I were seen it in the eighties on a huge screen. Are. Beginning that I didn't think I felt quite as. Excited as director intended to but okay. You know. Like. sweaty. Chess on Matt is just like not really I don't know certain things do for certain people. I was I was just watching them play volleyball. Said, the thing I just kept thinking about was, how can he possibly play on this hot beach in jeans that seem so comfortable to me? Yeah. cabin even noticed that. Okay. I got my big way. I. Do enjoy watching beach volleyball in the Olympics whenever it returns. Oma On the other end of the spectrum. Yes. They play superintendents Louis, and of course, they are sliding and like falling to the ground. And they on the other hand I'm thinking of the Women's Specifically Missing Kerri Walsh. Players, I. Don't know if they'll be in the Olympics next year, they might be retired by now because they've been doing it. So long they are on the other hand wearing almost no clothing. I've always wondered that about that also seems painful. Saw It seems like there should be a happy medium like just some spandex shorts. Where you can like have I mean obviously it's hot. So I understand wanting to stay. Cool. And not be sweating through your full length genes. That I understand but it seems like there should be a happy medium where like you probably don't leave with huge burns like sand burns up and. DOTTY. You know I'd probably eat probably just want like spandex like tank tops the your arms can fully move and then like. You know some lagging Capris or something I don't know. I obviously though. They have won so many gold medals. I. Am not going to tell them how to do their job. Yeah. I think they probably know what's up but in my mind I can't quite figure out how that works and then you've got Serena Williams getting in trouble in tennis for won't wearing a fully full spandex outfit but then beach volleyball I mean it's it's ludicrous how about? I ask how about just? You guys worry about what you have on your own body. And then athletes can worry about what they put on their bodies that are humble for them to do their job. Okay. anyways. But this was very concerned about what was and what was not on his actors bodies in this scene and was not was clothing on top. What was was oil Also seems bad for your skin care and Sunburn. But aside from the point of what he's trying to do. So. Yeah. That was that was his goal and they he just put it together in post and we had that lovely montage. Well. We don't know for sure yet, but it does look like beach sports. and Tom Cruise may be reunited again hey. Oh. Of course, we were all supposed to be getting the long awaited long just stating top topgun sequel Tap Gun Maverick which was supposed to come out this summer. End As we all know we've arranged rearranged a few things in our lives this year. So now tap gun maverick is scheduled to come out July second next year witch pending how things are going sounds like an awesome fourth of July weekends. And from the trailer, it does look like top gun will be returning to the beach for sports However, it looks like a football in his hand so they may be mixing no volleyball this time I just want to say I'm super excited for this movie I think it seems like a lot of fun and in addition to Tom Cruise Val kilmer is returning. End We are also getting new cast members including. Jennifer. Connelly Ed Harris Jon. Hamm Miles Teller. Glen. Powell. So it's going to be a stack cast of a lot of people. and. The. Making of this movie seems really cool. Remember how I said. While Tom Cruise did in fact, get to experience flying in fighter. Fighter jets. They were filming on sound stages et Cetera. That is not the case this time. I have got to tell you about how cool this new camera technology they've developed for this new movie is going to be. So they have developed an I max quality camera. But it's like only two inches big in they can put six of them inside of a cockpit. So, Tom Cruise in many of his cast mates actually learned how to fly these fighter jets and become pilots. And I am sure they are not doing. Everything people in the real navy do but they are getting super high quality images and they're able to get lots of great angles from inside of the cockpit which I think is going to be really cool. So previously you can. Really, FIT GOPRO in there. And now They're getting amazing shots. Thirty four years, Tom Cruise returns as maverick. Tissue, film, family, friendship, and sacrifice. It's a love letter aviation. We're going to show you what it's really like to be top gun. Just can't create kind of experience unless you shoot it live. In order for us to accomplish this, we have the greatest fighter pilots in the world working with us. Putting up in these jets very serious. That's why everybody thought. It would be impossible and I think when Tom here's that something's impossible for it can't be done. That's when he gets to work. One cool thing I noticed in the trailer was miles teller. I'm mean I didn't have to read that that was supposed to be goose's son to. Son He looks just like him. I love miles teller debt kid. I think is just one of the best. Actors of. The generation like I just everything I see him in he's like. The best part of bad movies. footloose remake nothing but he is incredible in it and I just want more miles seller. Yeah I like him. Yeah. So as we all know, tom cruise lopes jude death defying stunts. So this does not surprise me in the least that he has learned how to do this. And part of the reason that this is coming out next summer instead of December is that he is also working on doing some death defying stunts for the mission impossible franchise and couldn't promote the movie as much as he would want to if it came out. Between before next summer so just you know. Tom Cruise is a person that is not above criticism. However, we do not deserve his commitment. To find stunts and movie see. The. End is inevitable mover station. Not. The maverick Iran's control. That, fun to watch I'll watch it. I think after all this business is over in it's safe to go to the movies again. I think I'm just GONNA go every week even if they're. Like I'm just GONNA go see bad movies. Go see movies I've already seen just because I want to be there you know I thought like at the beginning of the pandemic I thought Oh. Yeah. When this is over, everyone go out, it'll be a big party. But. Now like. Of course, realize it's going to be a lot more gradual. It already is. Gradual. So I I wonder when that will be once like. I think I'm going to go to the movie theater. Yeah. You'll. Just you'll know you'll. Probably. If you're living in Wyoming right now, it's probably fine to go to the movies. I'm not there. So I can't say for sure but I would think probably there are certain area the countries that it's fine. I don't feel safer I. AM doing that right now even if they were to open today. That said. I. Miss it a lot. I'm looking forward to it. It's so weird. The movie theaters that I walk by still have sonic in there. And Onward trolls movie It's like a time capsule of March. I laugh but otherwise I would cry. So let's keep laughing. So, should we talk about how beach volleyball intact relates to beach volleyball and Gilmore Girls? I think so. So first of all. When. I didn't remember what the actual quote was that we were going off of from Gilmore girls before I. watched it. So I watched the movie. And then I came back and I read reread the quote and I was like Oh my gosh. The volleyball scene. That's that's what we're talking about. Like all the top. You know all my life. I've seen the star top Gun I knew fighter pilots. But it's the volleyball seeing that amy. Sherman Palladino wants us to talk about So I mean also Paris ad in their call them hun because they're grunting so much and you know what she hated Janet's grunting too. So she does not like athletic. People Maho she really does not. Also. I just think it's so funny to me that when they get out of the car at two am, and of course, literally the Florida's awake for spring break. In Janet like I. Think I'M GONNA run around the Block and rory says. She seems normal and then she does that they just do not get athletic people know they don't, which is why were in? Paris make a good pair I think as friends. That's true. But maybe the thing that makes me laugh the hardest in this whole episode. Is Right after. Volleyball. Is when he says, Hey, throw back over your. Lives at that she does not. Any context for why she doesn't say do it yourself she decided. She's will not engage not know doesn't WanNA. Come close to joining yachts. But. I think she's basically just saying it's a bunch of guys trying to show off an have. Egos in trying to outdo each other like in talk enwright their compound for points presumably like points with the ladies Bro points with each other I don't know I don't know. What dudes thank when there but you know what after watching? The don't while I was watching volleyball seen. Again didn't know that this is what Gilmore girls is refugees I forgot I turned to my my male counterpart and I said. Hey you. What's like? The, most like testosterone filled like society. Societal Manley like group. Thing. You've ever been a part of because to me this like Bali I just like they're so like. Oh, like they were just like. Oh my gosh, my hormones are pumping through my my sweat. and he just said I I don't. I. Don't I can't think of one. Not Not really as thing. But like while I was watching that scene, I was just like this the amount of. You know supposedly. That was. Just exuding from all of them intense. So I get what stuck out and this reference makes sense they are. Just. Leaving it all on the sand. And Paris does not mean it as a compliment that is known. She is into her intellectual professor. Boyfriend? In she does not care for these athletic guys trying to show off which does seem like the crux of spring break. Everybody's trying to get somebody's attention in this episode. Yes. Some of them are. Kissing. To kissing their friends to get attention and some are playing volleyball Yeah. Yeah. Summer plane with giant cue tips in the pool. Yes what's that giant q tip thing I know when I don't know the real name of it so no me neither yeah. Although, you know what? When Rory does ask the cute. Not just guy he says I don't know do I lose points. And she says, no. We were. hopkin points competition. At Spring Spring in Florida for Spring Break Yeah Excel. Yeah No one is worth noting this is not the only reference to Topgun and Gilmore Girls. This comes again in season seven, but it is a theory different reference. You inspired me I look at you and I think this guy's doing it right slave to know master. You come home at three in the morning. No one cares you WANNA eat dessert predinner. No one cares walk around in your socks tighty whiteys no one cares no one cares what you do or where you go. So what are you saying, Luke? You WanNa, be my wingman. Goose to my maverick. You never close your eyes animal in a kiss. oops. So do you think that Luke could be kirk swing man the goose to his maverick. All My. Do you think that Peres correctly identified. Do you think Kirk is the maverick in? Luke is the goose. I'm, GONNA I'm GonNa say that I can see calling Kirk Goose. Just, a silly goose Zik name. Am I right. But no, I don't. That doesn't check out for me, but also Lucas not maverick because he is dangerous, he does not feel the need for speed. Of. All the characters, Gilmore girls. WHO IS MAVERICK GO? Paris. Vote Logan but I definitely see Paris as Oh yeah. No Logan because the danger Marcel, he's got that extra that But if Paris can win points in school. She wants it. Yeah. So I don't think you're wrong. Soon Kyla. So Taylor that was our trip to the danger zone of pop culture references in our show the danger zone. Yeah. Let us know give us points. Aka Stars on your podcast reviewing option. Of Choice you can find US assets show. On twitter. So the show PODCAST DOT com. What else? What else do we gotta talk about? Shoes an email. What are you to cover season forward get into an end we're. But that does. We usually go back and do references. We missed it the end. So who's to say doesn't mean we couldn't cover yours. That's true. Laid on us. 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Willow (1988)

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Willow (1988)

"Willows in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight American fantasy film directed by Ron Howard with a story by George Lucas produced by George Lucas starring. Warwick Davis and Val Kilmer? I don't know what your relationship is this film. I was not allowed to watch this because he wasn't either. It was very Star Wars, adjacent. And I knew that when I was growing up in a really one to see it all my cousins, and France, receiving it. But unlike Star Wars, which I could somehow sneak by on a science fiction exception, just blatant, blatant, mysticism, and magic and all the things would frighten a person like my mother. So I wasn't allowed to see it. I don't have any deep affection risk material. I know that one of the first things I did. When I moved out was to rent, this movie and watch it and I remember being pretty disappointed thinking that this is not star. I thought this would be like Lord of the rings meet Star Wars, and it was, I think the key here is the said when you moved out, which says you were probably too. Yeah. But, but still the this was this was the, the walk adventures meets Lord of the rings at best and. And so. But I thought, like okay this'll be a fun when the in the super serious film, fast. I actually kinda thought it was a little bit of a bummer a little bit of a drag. Oh, yeah. I didn't have. Yeah. This I found it very hard to engage in this material and wasn't. It wasn't super bad. It was definitely wasn't super good. Does not a whole lot to like just savage, a criticized because the film firmly has its heart in the right place at all times. I just. Yeah. Wasn't for me. What you think Jim, I agree. It's not for me. This feels more like a kids movie than any of the ones you've mentioned before side for maybe you walk adventure. It's probably an apt comparison. But yeah, this, this movie has a lot of Lucassie in elements, all of his sort of big ideas that you think of from Star Wars, a lot of his character, tropes, those all spillover from Star Wars into this, and I heard an interview or maybe it was on the special features of the DVD Blu Ray version of this. Got you got the Blu Ray special feature. I did not. But I found them, okay? They're available out there, although I will say, the effects one, I couldn't find I found sort of the little feature at they did about the making of. But he said, basically, this idea had been kicking around in his head for about fifteen years before he finally got it made it goes all the way back to the even before returning the Jeddah, because, you know, obviously work Davis was working on return of the jet is as wicket, and I think they had discussed possibly doing this film together after return of the Jedi, and it took a while to get it done. But you can see, like okay that era of filmmaking. George Lucas, his life is sort of permeated by these types of ideas, and it even comes through and things like the soundtrack, things like certain elements of the direction, I can see where Lucas, and it's telling that he is onset a lot in that feature at even though Ron Howard is the director, Ron Howard claims the begin. Of that. Oh, you know. Keeps. I never got that impression watching the feature at and so there's a lot of Lucas in this film. Well, that's true of, like, you know, I think that it's as much Spielberg is a big part of Indiana Jones, like I think that same deal, Lucas on the set and kinda co directing that a lot, even though Lukas isn't a credit director for any of the other Star Wars like it's obvious. He's onset every day, so yeah, yeah. No. I, I definitely feel what you're putting down here, shall we go with a description this film, before we get into spoilers, just so people that might not be familiar with the film. So willow is named after the character main character played by Warwick Davis who is from a tribe of dwarves called the Nurlan and they get embroiled in a civil war from the human culture, which is I believe their name is Keeney dish. Kini Kini nineteen. And they're being ruled over by a literal wicked witch Queen. There is a prophecy, that involves her downfall at the hands of this infant, that's going to be born very Christ metaphor. Very, I guess, just a messianic metaphor because they get the Moses mess messiah myth and they're mostly the Queen aware this prophecy. So she's has all the pregnant women of the realm rounded up, so she can kill the baby instantly. But some of the midwives conspire to smuggle, the baby into some dirty laundry, floated downstream where it's discovered by willow, and then the rest of the movies adventure, he has getting this prophesied baby back to her people, safe and sound. So she can't oppose the, the wicked Queen. Yeah. Like I said, lots of lots of George Lucas going back to the model myth. Well, and like lifting parts from the bible most most immediately from like the exodus, because you see, like the this baby sitting down this read baskets, and it's found by some other people survive the total genocidal destruction. And I said, it's like this movie like there's a interview where George Lucas essentially said, a lot of my films, are about little guy going against the system. And why try to bury the lead. Just just get a little guy to be the actual hero. Gets the most literal interpretation of that. Yeah, yeah. And it's it's it works on a lot of the same level. Like the fellowship of the ring does because you've got this person who's very small stature, and he just kind of want a normal life, and he's thrust into the limelight. I guess it's slightly weakened by the fact that he has like magical powers Frodo truly was in every man like he didn't have anything special. That's one of the reasons you could trust him with the ring, right? But yeah, it it works fine. It's just really slow. The comedy is very broad and. There's a couple of days, I will say that, like the third act engage me in a way I wasn't prepared for because I thought like the trap, they laid for enemy forces was reasonably clever, you know, like I've they hid their forces and they lured them out, and then they surprise them and forced away through the gate. That was kinda cool. There are some really good effects in this movie there pioneered the will talk about a little later. But the thing that I really wanted to get to because when you when you see this movie and you know, that it's made in one thousand nine hundred eight which is not a very like politically correct time or go K. There are a lot of little people in this. How is that going to age, and I think at aged mostly pretty well. They felt like they were not for the most part, making fun of these people. They weren't the, the butt of jokes. I think at age pretty well. Yeah. Because I think that this was, I think, George Lucas made this from a pretty pure place, a heart. Yeah, he had worked with a lot of little people in. In productions where they've wearing latex masks and stuff. And you also you see them there cast, and like when you need a, like the captain of the fucking, lollipop brigade, and in munchkin land, or whatever. And he's like you know what? Let's just have these. This is just a this is a village full of people, and they're actually bute is small, but otherwise, they have asshole politicians have valiant warriors, and they have moms and dads and craftsman, and like it, it kind of gave them a identity of their own. They, they weren't, you know, they weren't really exceptional anyway, except for the stature, and that's not really remarked and the, the humans are dismissive of them. And uses I what I guess, is the racist term for the melons the peck. Yeah. That serves not as a commentary on these little people before as the characters who were calling them that, right? Like, you know, on the, you know, thoughtless nature of the people throwing that slur. Around. So you, you make a film that tries to be respectful of people and it turns up at holds up better than films where you're just using them as props or or object to tell your story. It's also clear that George Lucas is trying to definitely hammer a lot of Star Wars shapes into this. You know, willow himself is a farm boy, you know, he's, he's, he's plowed, his field, his full-scale pigs, which I thought was pretty cute. And, you know, he, he has his quest. It's been given to him by this village elder that very delay talks. And kind of whimsical nature minds, a lot of iota. He comes across like an anti hero. That's very much like Han solo. There's a guy in a skull mask, very much like Darth Vader. Creepy person flowing robes very much like the emperor, the problem is, is. There's I don't know like this Hans solo kind of sucks, because he doesn't have a fundamental seriousness about him. Like its way hustle is introduced as a bad ass and a pirate and a scoundrel and you kinda take him seriously because he murders dude within seconds of seeing him. Sure. Your two-thirds away through the movie before mad Margie does anything that's even slightly, her roic or cool. Yeah, let's talk about him for a while, because I, he makes this claim I am the greatest swordsman that ever lived. I, I'm looking at this movie waiting for him to show it, and I guess, by the end I was left a little underwhelmed. I feel like almost the movie lets him down a little bit. Let's the character town because every time they show him doing something I think should be cool. It's always followed by either joke or or worse yet. It's like staged so cheese. Easily that you can't believe he's a bad ass. You think the bad guys were just dumb asses? I know there was better ways to choreograph some of these yachts. I don't know whether maybe Val Kilmer didn't take it serious, because like he's famously kind of difficult on set. I don't know what he was. I didn't read any I didn't read any kind of lower about him, one way or another. But, like there's a lot of just very lazy sword fighting going on. And you kind of needed him to do something really cool right away. And fact, the first time I watched this. I'm like I don't understand why willows trusting this guy at all. Let me out of here. I'll take care of the baby. Still feels ridiculous. Every time I see it does. And I'm trying to go back and sort of red Connor reason in my head because the town does tell them like get on the road gives us to the first aikido you see and be done with this quest that kind of thing. So I think they're justified and just handing him off, although you're right mad Margie comes across as such a fuck up and such a scoundrel such a men, beginning, there's no way you should trust us, baby and willow is so reluctant. I don't I don't know why rubbing the gunk off his teeth and putting on a good face for willow. Convinces him. The get any like old west motifs in here too, because I thought the whole angle of the land thievery felt like the intro to almost every wild west thing I've ever seen where cattle barracas like what, what is the heroes impetus to, to do something crazy like this? Well, he's gonna lose his livelihood like if he doesn't he's in a place. Where he's forced to undergo some kind of change because if he stays the way he is. He's gonna lose. His lively that he's gonna lose his job. He's gonna lose lose his land. You might lose his family. And I think importantly, too, they don't make this super clear in the film. But the Lucas in the or maybe it's Boric in the feature. Ed says. You kind of get the impression too, that he he's a failure at both. It's so. Yeah. And the shows. So kind of pro stage magic the fact that like the actual magic the magic petrifying acorns fail willow in his final confrontation. But good, old fashioned misdirection and slide. Hand in through like David, like the I don't know. I feel like five year old David Blaine seizes moving changes his life forever. Probably. This one. This is how you changed the world is that you can free people with, with fucking stage. Magic yeah. Close street. Magic the themes of this movie very much tied to that, right? It's, it's something along the lines of what the hi Alden tells him. Anyone in the village? You have the potential to be a great social. Now when you're out there this into your own heart. These will protect to. A coins their magic. They arguably in this film wanna create a scenario where magic is trusting in yourself. Ride believing your pure intuition is correct. And I think they, they sort of undercut that too, they undermine it by actually, making these acorns magical. I think it would be much more effective. And I was surprised when the one on the bridge, and it turned the thing to stone 'cause I was assuming all along. Okay. Well Denes this is to teach him a lesson. Yeah. When he finally gets to where he needs to use these acorns. He'll use them nothing will happen all he'll have as wits left, and they go that direction, but they also make the acorns magical. And I don't think it was as effective as it could have been. Yeah. I agree with that. If you're going to have the. You know, it's like nothing about a power. It's like his intrinsic belief in himself and confidence than you don't need the magic acorns piece of verdict. I was actually so one of the things I thought worked surprising, well as the baby is essential character. It's pretty rough. You know that like you just have a baby, and it's a macguffin living. Macguffin. I thought that they did a really good job with, like, just really patiently getting certain expressions from the baby where it gets a performance like it looks skeptical. And it looks like oh Brady has like these. Oh, brother, can't believe this thing's going, and it looks happy and sad. They got a lot of good performance out of the goddamn, baby, which is super key because if that didn't work then it's, it's really ridiculous. Yes. Specially when they're talking about how the baby chose willow and all this, you've got a good babies gotta have a good personality. And I think it did. I was surprised to find on my research that there was like tons of the obvious there was a primary baby. They got shot actually kinda thought like oh, wouldn't it be this is Bryce Dallas Howard, 'cause the ages kind of lined up and but it's actually just some maybe but you were saying that they went through a ton of babies in this role how many babies and went through, but they had like a full house kind of thing going on Michelle Tanner, where they're played by the single, babe. Was played by two twins. Right. And way, greenfield know long win over a longtime and I, I heard that the babies aged out of the role and they had the cast another set and then they still want done with some of the re shoots. And I think like one of the one that production hands kids. Oh boy. It's unlike baby double work, I wouldn't actually be surprised if this was some kind of weird Morphing effect that they were using on this baby to get those freshens because this is the movie that sort of pioneered, I'll limbs Morphing technologies so weird because it happens a full like four or five years before it debuted degrade effect, I guess, so it's like this is the first of this type of special effect than they did a little bit in the abyss. And then, of course, like it really started at stuff in and Terminator two it is because you see a bunch of whole like new Matt positing and greet in and, you know, green screen work, and stop motion, and then in the middle of this, you've got the, the Terminator two liquid metal effect. It's kind of. Like as jarring if you watch like Jason Argonauts, and you would see, like Terminator two walking around in midst of all the skeletons, it's like a special effect from another age. That's in this. It's, it's weird. Yeah, I thought, but, but good. Because I think this is, you know, a high watermark for practical effects and through that digital effect of the sorceress getting turned back and through self. And it was it was good. It was really good. Yeah. That's the thing that, you know, has always been enchanting about Lucas's films. I think is the way that he's able to blend. Technology and storytelling, and I sometimes it hits and sometimes it hits a little less. There's a lot of stuff in, like Phantom Menace, that you look at doesn't hold up quite as well as it could have if he maybe waited a few more years, but he's always been pushing the technology forward through and through Lucas arts. And I are Lucasfilm rather, and I have a lot of respect for that because a lot of the things that you see in films today were technologies or pioneered by him created wholesale by these guys. And it's say what you want about the storytelling in some of the latest movies, but they have forever consistently been pushing technology forward in filmmaking did some of because, like I dunno I used to I used to totally by everything, Lucas said, it's face value, and then like the prequels happened and some of his Grandy more grandiose heroes tail kind of youngin, Cam Bellion shit, maybe not as smart, as I think he was, but he talked about the special effects, and he mentioned, the interview he had the wait until nineteen and a nineteen eighty eight because special effects had the progress to certain point to tell a story that seems like bullshit to me. I think I think I think Star Wars had to progress to the point where he was done with that. Yeah. Yeah. You know, then this was kind of the next project, he was developing. He'd gotten, I think by this point wasn't the first to Indiana Jones that in the pipeline like because downs right? Yeah. The only special effects dance that seems like is that Morphing technology? And I just don't think the scene of him rapidly transforming this sorceress into seven, different animals. That surely can't be the thing that George Lucas, like we don't have this technology. So. In fact, it can't be because I like the visual effects guy in the interview I read said that they had they had, like three other plans before this guy wrote this Morphing software. So there's other ways to do this affect right involves more cuts and involves a lot of prosthetics. And you see sort of in the pig stuff, they did a lot of prosthetics for those pigs. In those transformations were not all Morphing tan. There's a lot of American werewolf in London. Type of just yeah here's a guy with a latex now and then we're gonna go wide angle, and oh, he's got hooves, and we're gonna go close up and ears now to hide those transformations with the cuts, which we're definitely like some of the coolest things I've seen is affecting, and I liked the symmetry of like. This pig trick that will tries to pull in his magic show at the beginning and not quite working and the baby at the end where he pulls the trick to fill the source long enough to for her to disappear smoke and the turning of the soldiers into pigs and the reversion about I, I like all that stuff. It feels like it connects a good way. But I don't think you needed that tech to tell that story now after I've seen this movie because I don't think I've seen this movie since Lord of the rings game out. I feel like that. Big that wizard fight between Saruman and Gandalf was completely bitten from the fight between squirrel eighty and evil because they're fighting in this, like poorly lit like studio of Blackstone, and they're coming other was staffs, and they're like that part where she's like bouncing old lady off the walls, and spin around, like that's totally Christopher Lee, and the fucking the other guy. I've, I've spaced on Ganz McCallum Ian McKellen. It's the holy going at the in tower four, thank isn't that isn't that the? So I thought it's like there's clearly this is weird. We influential and a lot of different ways. In fact, I thought there was a lot of I thought there was a lot of like the armor from game from Lord of the rings in this movie. Like there's a this army that mad Margie fights his Eric guy. Looked a lot like the row here armor and the Lord of the rings return to the king. All that kind of stuff, I felt like there was a lot of Peter Jackson, this, this movie being influential his look and feel of some particular. I thought the design of Queen bath Morteau was rich early interesting late movie. She reveals. She's got this, like, mom, raw type design, like she's a mummy heath all there. And she turns her stern and old woman. I thought like oh man we're gonna go full on camera. That'd be fucking cool. I wasn't sure if that was just simply what she chose to war, or if serve some purpose, if she had had some hideous scarring, somehow, there's a lot of cool art design. Stuff like I really like mad margins sword. Gauntlet combo little weapon. He's using I like sources sword. I thought was pretty cool. It's like Sarah and on one side and very sharp on the other. Yeah, there's and I don't know. I, I wasn't too amored with the skull face. You know, he may type villain their general kale. Yeah. General kill wasn't doing it for me. I so I guess that's a reference to some infamously, tough critic that George Lucas had a bone to pick with. The two headed goofy dragon was called an e Bruce Iverson to represent Ebert and siskel. Okay. Because I can't imagine the George Lucas had much criticism like negative feedback at that point. So certainly it's not like a. Because I know Roger Ebert wasn't as in love with Star Wars in the beginning as he eventually grew to appreciate it. Okay. So I don't know. But I to me that's always weird. It's like why take shots at movie? Critics in your. I mean, these are pretty NFL guy. I didn't I would never have gotten these, if someone didn't explain it to me on the internet, but still, it's like interesting. So did you in your research, see, like some of the evidence to people at pointed to earlier drafts, where a lot of things I didn't like about the film, a lot of things about the film is like it seemed like they went for a lot of broad comedy and action set pieces win. I did not know enough about the character situation, honestly, other than willow, who I kinda liked because he's a very likable guy. Warwick Davis, very likeable, and he's appealing engaging. Actor like I didn't understand why cared about any of this plot. Like this woman is an evil Queen just because the movie tells me, so and she's got that wardrobe. I feel like and I guess, yeah. They made the point of the she hadn't slave all the pregnant women in this crazy thing. But like, you know, like a general kale, like he's supposed to be this big dangerous guy. But I don't really see him do anything villainous mad margins supposed to be this bad ass. But it's like nothing quite lands. And I read that in the original, there's a lot more fleshing out to especially mad Margat and the source akara cutters that is mad margin was supposed to be a night of the kingdom of gala Dohrn, which general kale mentions having destroyed to Queen bad Morton to beginning so you already see that there's bad blood between these two factions. The character Eric was painted out to be only real friend but his recklessness got him in trouble. And then he got in a love affair the woman that caused them to desert, the army, which is why there's as bad blood between obvious affection, but bad blood between them. All of that stuff is still in the film. Right. But it's not quite in the film. It's more like these are things that are. Mentioned gala, Doorn mentioned Eric's, Eric's part of that clan that kingdom. Whatever it was, I had to actually go to the willow Wicky ROY on phantom dot net or whatever the hell and look up, what gal Orne was because it's mentioned, but it's never explained and the real the real tragedy is like because I thought the whole romance, a source of just came out of fucking nowhere. But their scenes that were cut where this, this kingdom of tier s lean which is where this God, baby is from the source show was actually the daughter of the emperor of that kingdom, which is supposed to be like, you know, a tribe of, of good virtuous people. And that factor her father is not dead, but he's imprisoned in, like the ice by bad mortar. And he gets free later on, and he actually has, like, there's a cut scene where he makes a plea for his explains or what's happened, and from entombment advice. He makes a plea for her to turn good. And the save the mall. That makes a lot of her likes appears sudden change of heart like, oh, this cute boys, kind of in the me, but only because he's in a love. Potion, I guess so much of that. I had to build some head candidate around, like, oh, I could see, you know, this girl who's under the thumb of her evil. Queen Mother has not had much opportunity for love. And like the, the first good looking man approaches her has wooed her because she's an experienced and I'm building this elaborate castle of back story in my head when it sounds like. Seven drafts of the script with which there were, and this was cut for jackassery involving brownies, essentially. Yeah. And there's some cool stuff. Like I as you mentioned, I quite like the brownies doing little Putian thing to willow some of that stuff was kind of fun. But holy cow. I hated all the brownish. Why are why are tiny beings always cast as such mischievous annoying character? It dumb asses candidate B Ken, we treat them with the seriousness that we're treating the NRA wins and putting on bad, French accents. Yeah. I looked at, you know, army of darkness and how annoying the small ashes were in that movie guys take. That's that at the most restrained. The little ashes are that's where their performances begin absolutely end with you the entire film. So yeah, there's no escaping the brownies. I think the brownies are the worst part of this movie easily. Did you know that they're they've never made a sequel to this? So Ron Howard as late as two thousand eighteen said that there is like a willow sequel in the work somewhere. Willow in the crystal skull, which I could see, like yeah. Sure, why not. Why not the willow awakens? He's thirty years older, and his kids are all grown up, and they've got light savers now too. I don't know. So did you know that even though there hasn't been a, a sequel movie yet, that there is a whole series of books and comic books that, like completely fill in the backstory of this? Like cannon novels and yeah. It's clear to me that Lucas was looking to recreate the success of Star Wars through willow. Right. Like I'm gonna do I'm gonna do it again. Right. And I it approached nothing near that it feels like an e walk adventures caravan, courage, kind of thing, it, does the whole production kind of feels that way. I wanna talk a little bit about more of those aspects. But it's funny because I'm not sure why didn't work because I thought that this movie was a giant financial flop. Turns out out truly was profitable. It did make money. It just wasn't as that wasn't as big of a hood of Star Wars. Yeah. I remember being like pretty popular my peer group. There is a well regarded like Ness game. There was a lot of merchandise that seem like people having fun with. I'm actually it seemed like a case. A Hollywood restraint that they didn't just force a sequel force. A franchise on us. Yeah. No surprise, when we think, James, James Horner soundtrack. I think it's remarkably John Williams ask at points and it fits the flavor. For the vibe, the George Lucas has all his films. Yeah, I kind of felt like man, this feels very derivative like where it's not just absolutely ripping off some of the Star Wars soundtrack. And I felt like they really did aggressively ripped off some of the lake romance type knives. There's also some of like kind of like the kind of battle transition music, but I guess he also ripped off some classical pieces, and then they kept on warring in. I also read piece of trivia that the score for this movie for whatever reason was one of those frequently licensed for trailer work. So like this, this willow score gets used for a lot of high fantasy and adventure type stuff in eighties nineties, and like so part of me is like, was this derivative because it is, or do, I think it's derivative because I've seen it in seventy five different fucking trailers throughout the eighties. This is probably cut into Robin Hood. Prince of thieves and is cut into. I don't know. I've already I've just exhausted. All of my eighties nineties, high adventure fantasy films. But I don't know it's tough. It's tough. I think it's a little bit of both. Yeah. Probably I will say, though, that I enjoyed the score. I thought it was very good. I wanted to ask you about sorta and Madigan at the end of this. I think because they may be deal about. Oh, we gotta get this, baby. Back to the king and Queen, she'll become the Princess, eventually the Queen down bad more to. I think the end of this movie it shown to be that margin and Madigan, and sorta are the king and Queen, they were kind of king, and Queen all along and they come together and raise this baby in tears lean. Yeah, it makes sense because like it seems like some draft. She was the daughter of the emperor. So. Right. Then as him as a like, so she would be the rightful heir, then he probably demonstrated his, his worth, or maybe turns that he's a prince of the land to, like, yeah. I have no problem making that were. Okay. That's where I ended up on it. So apparent because apparently there was like some kind of reunion with her father at the end where maybe he would give his blessing for this kind of arrangement that, that they cut that out to the fuse kind of long and bloated for as a small story, as, as it is. And I man, I really wish they cut a whole bunch of stuff. Like I thought, honestly everything about the brownies was just stupid. It's side quest to go to a wizard. Woman that tells her to go to just another wizard woman. Oh, that's the thing this this high. All one in the town is made out to be a charlatan. He he at every turn gets everything wrong. Right. The bones. Tell me nothing. He throws the bird in the air and follow the bird, the bird goes back to the bird, follow the river. Bird, follow the river, he showed to be sharp and he sins willow on a quest. That is a centrally like dump this baby on the first aikido see and be done with income back. And it turns out that, that is completely the wrong way to go. He actually needs to get a quest from shirt. Share Linda Lindy. I think is your name the crazy ferry fairy lady. Right. And apparently, actually, he gets the quest from the baby herself because a Laura, chooses him, I see the me this, this all these to be convinced like, the, the village elder, the Heil, Allah, Alden, or whatever the hell is name was. He should tell you go fetched. This woman who's been turned into some kind of tree squirrel. Here's a magic wand, you need on your quest. He go. And go to the crossroads because you need to get this person back, that I know it seems like there's a way to collapse this and not have mad margen strapped up in some fucking give it just have him because having be like the defeated army that, like, hey, we just tried to go against a Queen, it's useless. But hey there's this new hope of this baby to fulfill the prophecy, like you're got a ninety minute movie. That's a hell of a lot better doesn't have any fucking brownies, then you can then choose if you want the punch it up and give the adult something you have a prologue where you explain who source is, and who fucking mad market is so that we actually care about these characters for anything other than just like props. But it's isn't as no man's land, where it's too long a bloated for kids to really enjoy. And it's too shallow and uncomplicated for adults to get into. I think you're right. And it's just it's, it's again it's not a bad movie, but it certainly not a great movie. And I think it's my where is this as far as you're in the super serious film fest? We've seen six films. At least favorite. This is in terms of enjoyment. The watch and like, you know, thinking about it after the fact, it's definitely below Raina fire. I enjoyed rain of fire a lot more thought it took it so it's. Oh, absolutely below Conan. Armie darkness, yet below army of darkness, because it had less less brownies in army of darkness. Dragonheart. I had more fun of dragging below Excalibur. Yeah. Excalibur generally, I think in for its time, and they Ed, it's too, but it's, it's a or it needed either a big edit and DJ and concert one. The fucking stories or needed to be blown out into like to movies. Yeah, I agree. I will say, I think if we did Dragonheart again, without Dennis Quaid, I think this movie would be worse than Dragonheart. But. Yeah. Just like Dennis Quaid doesn't nothing for me. Like, I feel a negative void space in my heart. When you say the words Dennis Quaid. So. Yeah. I mean, work Davis is extremely likable. I think Val Kilmer is extremely likeable in this as you know, basically on solo it. Yeah. Dennis Quaid does nothing for me. So this better than Dragonheart worms Davis is like seventeen years old, and he's playing like thirty five and not doing job of it. No, I was shocked to see how young he wasn't this movie which puts him at, like twelve or thirteen in Star Wars, turn the Jeddah, and the kids got playing Warwick's kids, are like some of the fucking cutest, some of the, like these devil dogs are just dogs wearing costumes, and it's so funny, because like this little girl Assab ING piteously, which makes it action. But every once in a while, I'll get a glimpse of the dog's paws, and I just think like there's like a very happy dog. That's like having the time of his life. Be like a good boy pretending to be a very bad boy, and having a time of its life. Like, I, I don't know something tickled about me about that. The dogs were cool. I know that in some scenes, like in the close ups animatronic. Oh, really, they can snarl and they can. Yeah. Like raised their to the show the teeth and raise their eyebrows, and all kinds of stuff. Yeah. But, but this movie pulls no punches in the beginning, I will say, because by the time the intro credits are over. They've, they've already talked about, like, basically genocide an entire generation of babies a mother has been murdered and an old woman has been mauled to death by rat, just frightened the background like it's the holy shit. It's vicious absolutely vicious mauling, and I thought the rest of the movie was going to take a similar tone. But it does.

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Top Gun

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So at the end of this episode, we are going to rate it from zero to five and right now. We're GONNA go Go around our screens and. anyways so. Brand spanking new on the show. Welcome everyone. Like I said we're GONNA go around and guess so since I just explained it and We're going to have a little thing from Corey later on and we go I. Guess the first that the. Be The grump of this episode is going to be none other than. I knew I knew immediately. I knew from the way that you looked into the Webcam. They going to choose me. Do you know that my eyes are this way for you by the way? Whatever camera? Onto your soul. Picked up, she saw into my Brown. I like a clairvoyant no. I. It's going be Gosh. Okay. Okay Okay Joshua you got. I think that it will be. CAITLIN. No. Really Stalin's Dolly Mike. It's hard to I mean. I'm going to have Kaelin too. Bad. Everyone wants to be on the presidential campaign because I ever vote for the right person. Wow Wow. Okay, we're the person so. Complement! It's actually going to say Tom on this one I. Feel, so it was feels like the. I'd like to give you a reason to con- over the Neuron Nation. It's just a it's a fun place to be. It's a good group to be a part of an element number. You get to vote every week when we were an episode. Who you think is going to be the growth of the week, and if you get ready to shout out on the episodes pretty exciting and this week, the nation has voted for no other than Caitlin. Josh also Ali also Tom and me for. The first time. We've ever had. All five of them, but everybody gets. Everybody gets a point, yeah! So this is the order in which because everyone has a point here. This is the order of which we will be giving our ratings the show. It'll be Manali. I then between Tom Josh Youtube Duke it out and then Caitlin last with four. That's that guess that grim. Do, it. That was the book closing. Which is funny because I'm going to need that for my notes in a minute. Ongoing. So now that that's out of the way, we're going to our complete spoiler of that sequence segment, and that's going to be our initial hold on hold on initial responses and first. Reaction Impressions First Reaction Set. Around. That so initial reactions and our first impressions so. Since I went first last time Caitlin should go first on her first impressions. I know which May, she is on my zoom. Just just flip corey every time. He points a direction your. Video budget. We'd give jewelry so that we can all voting headway entire time one. One day. Like me, emojis or whatever? One. Hundred percent. Okay so my first knowledge of top gun. The movie was going to kings island because there was a roller coaster ride called top gun. That's all I knew about Great America this movie until washing it for this episode, Mom I knew that there were these guys on there like we like fast stuff and we all all as we like. Somehow is around and stars are there and SAS kind of all new, so then watching this. I was like Oh boy. I'm sure the hype is going to be way more than you know what this movie is. And then I watched and I was like. Really Cool. 'cause most of the time like I'm very not fond of the like. Mature. The Machines Marlboro. We kinda asshole behavior. The it's it's. It's really over the top and a lot of people who take too much confidence from being in the army or or whatever? Maybe. Even sky on any. Of Armed. Force like I've seen a lot of Being bad thing and some of this was highlighted in there. But I thought that was going to be like the most of it, and then you get to the heart, and the humanity there as well and that just like. Surprise me very pleasantly. And it. Once I read more about what. Happened because of this movie I'm like Oh. Yeah, I can see that a hundred percent so. I'll even that that was my initial reaction Berkoff. I I saw this movie when I was ten ish. Maybe nine ten eleven in that sound sexy range. And as a eight nine ten year old, or whatever it was improbable can awesome like. Flying Planes it. I think this movie may have implanted my love of bomber jackets so which if anyone knows? My wife got me one for Christmas a couple years ago and it's been my favorite jacket ever since May Have spawned from this movie. And I was all about it was about this movie like planes motorcycles. They're seeing meals, sears, planes, trains, and automobiles, no. And so I was I was totally totally sold on this I was also. Prior to seeing this movie I had my dad had showed me rainman so I was already familiar with Tom Cruise and this is you know obviously before Raymond was filmed so. It was kind of cool to see him a little younger a little like. Little Brown very different role from his role in in Rainman? So yeah, and then re watching it now very different A. vibe that I got from this movie being someone who is now twenty years older. And who likes to think of himself as someone who enjoys ingesting and Dissecting and learning film so we'll get into that a little bit later. Josh Yeah I mean I don't remember specifically when I first saw it I do remember. Watching it at some point when I was a kid, and like Corey said absolutely loving it I mean you've got fast jets. My Dad was in the navy so that that was kind of like A. It was like? Oh, I know that thing. I've been on an aircraft carrier. That's cool man from that opening scene. You're just like. Oh. This might have imbued me what they love for aviator sunglasses I think that's. Abiola I love aviator sunglasses or just like big sunglasses. Trying to find some this episode and I I don't think I have any more I mean either but yeah, I mean I I, remember loving it and end. To Watch it now being in my thirties, and it's interesting to watch it now. it is something that I would consider a classic, and so it's it's interesting to watch it now. We'll get into that later, but. I it was fun to watch it again. It was just there's so many moments where you're like yeah s and then doing research about it. You're like Oh hell. Yeah, and I'm A. I I I know that he's crazy, but I like Tom Cruise I love Val kilmer. Val kilmer. has a very special place in my heart, seriously val kilmer in the eighties like real genius. I mean. I Means Oga I. I, only Kiss Kiss Bang Bang you. Will See. Man I get why they had him as Batman. I totally get it you're. Not Gorgeous Chisel Ban we cannot not reference tombstone though Oh. Yeah Val kilmer piece there is. Of course what you gotTa, do so good. It was on sale. For Five dollars a day and Time so good? I'll go next I haven't watched I didn't I didn't watch this film like in my younger years. I definitely watched it like close at a High School College. So this isn't one of those ones. You sound like USA or Turner Classic Movies. No I think I watched it on a recommendation, because when in high school I was in RTC program, army, branch right, and so like we ended up watching a lot of military films and stuff like that, and like a bunch of my friends watch a lot of military from salt. Lake the whole killings talking about the American mccheese Mojo of like armed force. People like was rampant. During my. You know later years of school. And I remember like hearing words and you know like every branch has shit to say about each other. That's just a thing. It's a camaraderie kind of thing you know. It's like police versus. During during football, you know so yeah, it's. Yeah. And you know watching a navy thing or watching an airforce, they really. We're right. so watching this in that context like this is probably the time where I was like just watching films to watch films and enjoying them and loving them, but now watching it I really got to see a little bit more of what the director to direct oriels side of what Tony was doing, and how it kind of like laid the groundwork for all his films, which is really great and wonderful. Understanding that we're still in spoiler free territory. I want to try to stay away from everything, but like definitely watching just for the film making aspects of it, it's like such a wonderful to watch and then seeing it where it lays in the I guess. The Cosmos of pop culture is like really huge, too, because it's like. It's as Corey said. It's infinitely infinitely quotable. In you could just take anything from Koi love and there's just there's cool, wonderful beautiful things at that really. Watching it for this episode like man, this was this was huge. I can definitely feel like how huge. topgun students aren't allowed to quote this movie well. There's a five dollar fine, yeah. Put it all they want. We will the top. Real! At the top gun school that they portray in this movie Israel, and you're not realize that we talked about doing a autobiographical films this. Time. I will like add to mind. It's cool to see a movie that's based in San. Diego where I grew up. I was like Oh. Hey I know where that little rat like Mirim wherever they that base like I've been to that based like Whoa. Unless anyway and also I gotta just say one quick thing like Michael ironsides always gets me in a good way so dude. that. Ali Shout out to him in the machinist. Topgun this is a great I mean A great film, but it's something that I've. It's been with me for a while. I've seen it. A few times by Szott back. I think it was like around. College I was going through My eighties and nineties action phase, and I was catching up everything that I had miss l.. Yes, so th you know things like even like terminator one like I'd never seen and things like that so I kinda was going through and know lethal cop, and all the stuff and hunt, for Red October in you know, this was all part of that and. Tony Scott's by visuals in Oriel style of something that I'm a huge fan of it's. It's sort of reminds me of I, mean I'm sure there's inspiration with like. You know and Michael Bay. Journey I'm sure he takes inspiration or vice versa or something, because you can definitely feel that and you know. Like the Machiko it's there, but it's like I said earlier rose a little muffled, but it's sort of like that. Tony Scott fine needle that he kinda like. where he kinda like. He doesn't like. Make It overbearing Michael Balance Harbor Right. Yeah Michael. Pearl Harbor. Every. Taken from, but it's like okay. You let this you know bloom too much or not the. Whatever you planted parallel instead. Have you seen the Denzel Washington Movie Man on fire? That is like his visuals in that are no yeah. stoppable I've seen more, and this probably applies to a lot of people. You've probably seen a lot more Tony Scott movies, and you think you think he's like a crap ton and also directed crap done, and if if you thought like ours movie that you're like. Maybe it's on my favorite movie, but it had a really cool style like it's sold the cool more than you could ever imagine that a good does back. There's probably. 'cause like anywhere from like an. Back to Topgun. Excuse me. Coming back to talk on like the the music, just like gives you. Maybe it's an Stagliano, but it just feels right, and it just feels good when you see like like like planes against. silhouetted against the sunset. You know it's like he brings their slurs. Well the way they used their telephoto Lens to so that the background is flying by, but the plane is perfect handy, really really amazing. One thing in this, and that Kinda gets me excited for the sequel is like the technical aspect of the dock fights is so impressive. Like feels very accurate. You know like I and like they were up there and look up every single line of they spoke to each other, but you know there was there was a line that was like say. Like Brag High and ride. Scare them with the missile lock. Like like scaring a guy with a missile lock. Like that blew my mind. And it was just so fun to watch them. Kind of be experts at their craft and can get that I first hand experience of like what it's like to be a fighter pilot and I tell you it really sold that. and really didn't really nice way. Of course it's got spin on it, but I think it ended up with a really is a great product. Fun fact about this is that all of the actors who are required to be in planes and the movies actually got flown up. And they had to create a new camera kit to be put inside. One of the planes to be filmed and goose was the only actor to not vomit when he was taken up in a jet plane 'cause they experienced certain. Right it, would you know controlled spins and. Goose was the only one to not puke throw. For this one was so I I watched a lot of the behind the scenes for the next one coming out and. Tom. Cruise had to do the whole mentor ship thing he was like tailing. All the actors like this is what's going to happen to you and it was really kind of what he's GonNa rain. Late to say in preparation of this episode you went up and. and. Here's another fact though we've got a huge budget and I'll do. That Tom Cruise didn't want to do the movie and the director asked him to just go up on a flight with one of the. Naval fires and as soon as he landed, the story goes that he got out of the plane and sprinted to a payphone to call him to tell him he wants to do it, and he was GonNa do for the rest of his life, yeah! That's so Tom Cruise getting out of a plane, sprinting prices in Tampa Darling. into the closest payphone in the hall of them immediately was like yes. Yes, let's do it. Upward sprint. So with all that being said now kind of gave you. An idea of who are grump is going to be in all our ratings. Who are group's going to be? All the ratings is going to be and. I'm just like opposites. Do we don't use the H. A. to well. And so now that brings us to our next two segments, or going to be our brief synopsis, and then also production, so take it away. I'm doing what brief synopsis. And this is how it goes. The topgun Navy fighter weapons school is where the best of the best trained to refine their elite flying skills. When hot shot fighter pilot maverick Tom Cruise is sent to the school, his reckless attitude and cocky demeanor put him at odds with the other pilots, especially, the cool and collected iceman played by. But it isn't only competing to be the top fighter pilot. He's also fighting for the attention of his beautiful flight. Instructor Charlotte or Charlie Blackwood played by Kelly mcgillis. Well done. Like William Shatner reading. Sir Your. The production of these things distributed by a very small company. Paramount pictures known for the Indie Films Titanic Transformers and Star Trek. Directors Tony Scott famous for the last Boy Scout, True Romance, and the state producers and other unknown name here Jerry Bruckheimer. knows. That is, he's done some movies. Something called pirates of the Caribbean Armageddon CON air. The other producer done Simpson famous beverly. Hills cops one of my personal favorites. The Rock and bad boys riders Jim cash known for Anaconda Tracy Turner and who? Led? And Jack EPPs, Junior! The flintstones in Viva Rock Vegas. Raw Legal and Hawaii. Five O episode shout. Shout out to a Steve's. Cast Tomcat cruise known for frisky business now risky business, the firm interview with the Vampire. Kelly mcgillis witness, the accused Maiden Heaven Val kilmer tombstone the Saint. Forever. Anthony Edwards revenge of the nerds designated survivor e R. and. Tom skerritt for alien contact mash, the release date was may sixteenth Nineteen eighty-six runtime is one hundred and ten minutes. The budget was fifteen million. It grossed three hundred fifty six point eight million dollars, so it did okay. It didn't do great. Rotten tomatoes score fifty percent critics, eighty-three percent audience, and that's the game. I see if I could imagine that the critics would be like it was okay and the audience is like. We mentioned this before the before the show, but. They would set up recruitments outside of movie theaters and the recruitment for naval flight. was increased by five hundred percent so much so that they canceled a planned commercial recruitment because it was and I. quote them on this redundant. Because top gun was out. I mean imagine what? Did and like I remember being in high school in like all my friends going into the military like I wonder if they had anything to do with it also came around I came out around Veterans Day I don't know if it was a thing that I don't know when veterans. Day was established, but may sixteenth like, and it's about the Army Memorial Day. That's what I meant say. What did I say around for Awhile? Veterans Day. Memorials for? Exactly Real. Yeah. Time recordings got him. All Day wasn't too far behind so like me, being an RTC I'm like. Some people like what did it do? For me like you either weren't parade or you went to decorate graves. There was a two things you did. Did. but Yeah, let's move on to the meat and potatoes of the show which are going to be our favorite parts. We have characters are qualms, and then finally we rate it so who wants to go first? This is the spoilers spoiler. Free Country, baby! We're tiny tarit spoiler, spoiler, rich environment cruncher. It's split. Go against the Ming's in that country that we're going spoiler. Crunchy I'll start with on okay favorite part of mine is. I mean anything goose did was. Fantastic. Ryan when? When Tom Cruise is talking about. And he goes we. Sorry. Sight just kept stacking good on him, didn't they? Then when they get yelled at and he's leaving. Do you have the number for that? That truck driving service they? Drugs because I. Think I think I. Think Him and need that. By right yeah and. So good. He's still positive about it. In a weird way. He is the mercutio stories so good. They had to get out of him because you wouldn't care about anyone else. That's one hundred percent true for me like they kept him to. The end of the movie and Tom Died I bet you'd be really got use though we have. have. The day's good reminds me on my one of my favorite parts is when goose's basically telling maverick like listen. We can't. You can't do this anymore. Like I've got a following that really a very. We'll real moment where he has to tell his teammate or his fly. Mate like is co-pilot like listening to go up. Yo We can't. This is the serious business now I I would actually say that's where the the story actually starts the plot happening, but this is where the story and the story is where the character just start develop because they set up everything. We're here, the players and all that stuff, and then when goose comes into this house, and says like Coon, sleep Boob Doodoo, and then I'll send happens, and then I was like. How do you see the story? Liberty Yeah About isn't about him getting the number one seed it's about. His relationship with iceman I think. But also growing himself develops demons person, but I'm Elliot was to climatically at the end there. Yeah. I think that's of ICEMAN's development. That's dice man story where he has to realize like you could be my wing. You can be mine and all that Shit, but it's. It's like he has to accept that. and. That's kind of the whole thing where it's like. It's like a footloose in in in flying. He learns by proxy Harry. Yeah. One of my favorite sequences is I'll say. I'll say it out loud. Is the sex scene? because. It's beautifully shot. I I. Shot I allies shot. I'm. I can't remember if there's nudity, there's nudity and right very. I don't think so no! silhouetted yeah. I think. Whatever. Cheek. If there isn't any nudity, then like that's I think how how bromance love sequences should be. They should be filled with color in passion, but you don't. See, what's the purpose of the scene and then it should bypass rules. Be Like here's a Dick or a titty by that how you know it sex. Excuse. To defend the seen that call for those those sorts of things are. This is not one of them. I will say to me I kind of relate this to an also, but this one has DNA Terminator One with Sarah. Connor and spoilers so when that happens. It feels very like passionate, and it's like this is how because I feel like there is a little bit of I'm not saying you're your point. Is exclusive to this corey but I think there's a sense of sex is almost so thrown into films a lot of the time. Yeah, I agree It doesn't feel a climactic. It doesn't feel like these two souls are connecting anymore like this is the logical step when people have a meek you like. Very careful is saying. That call for it. It's not just thrown in what I think is interesting about. That scene is that it was added afterwards? To establish their relationship even more which I mean it's. It's one of those things that it is like kind of in Topgun. Yeah in top Ghani was filmed later. It is one of those things where it's I. Do like the that it's done tactfully it is. It is a beautiful scene to watch. It's very pretty. Well shot and and. It doesn't feel gratuitous. What I like, so the tongues were pretty gratuitous I. Mean I'm half tongue all day. It's an eighty six scene so. There's a lot of eighties movies that do it real well. Kaelin Ali Ango. We always do this This endless Dan son, you know at this time Hugo I. Well I. I think one of my favorite parts was that surprised me also was after goose passed away. And then his wife and son, or like sitting in that room and maverick with a box, and I wasn't really sure what she was going to say. And then her line of like, he would've hated flying without you, but he would have done in any way. that. Was a favourite part for me I'm like short to make Ryan to yeah, though the. Whole delivery everything was great. But, but it was just sort of like. I feel like that was more. The point of the film. That was kind of the message is let your own person and be your own person. You have to keep going on regardless of what life throws at you or takes away from you like for me. That was the. That was the climax or even there's there's a reality to your actions whether you're whether it's your fault or not. which it wasn't I, think you know it's. It's definitely like that wakeup. Call moment of like we're not. We're mortal. We're not gods in the sky. Yeah, and and I don't think. He remembered that because he he fought every single rule before that. So! I think you're absolutely right in that sense that that that is a huge part of what the stories about. Yeah, so that that's definitely that for me. Ali. I. Love the line out Geez. WHO's the general with for speed? Tom Scares character. Happy. Talking about his dad at the end, Tom Skerritt Viper Viper I love. A line he's like if you don't do this right or something like that, you'll be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dogs. A reduction. Of Hong Kong first guy the first. Guy Yeah Yeah. Michael. Gesture. Future no just kidding. No, no, he's back. It's A. SLACKER, yeah, he I I loved him in this, and just loved his back and forth with with Tom Cruise. that was I had to write down that line because I was I. now you're i. go shit -actly exactly so. Yeah. That's what I call. It target rich environment. Like just a lot of like I just love pretty much anytime. Goose would speak was pretty much gold. And Yeah just a lot of like one liners in Swat. Talk like I'd S- love that. Swamped riddled throughout. I think in all honesty. I'm GonNa say it, also you know everyone listening. Make Your judgment calls now slip and slide in the DMZ. Let me know I loved the volleyball sequence. Off. So I'm also throw this background right? I used to work at Abercrombie. So seeing shirtless dudes is not something new for me, but like I liked it just because it felt so like that timeframe, it felt so like this is the eighties and people go out with jeans shorts to play volleyball. and. This is kind of laying. It reminded me of. Remember the. W-? What's the same? Is it Santa Clara Beach Boardwalk go into the. Santa Claus Santa Cruz beach. Walk, before. California's. Walk like. Reminding them like Ya'll this. Time for us. Yeah, that's useless beach boardwalk. Where together? No, yes? Okay. So I, just put me in a good nostalgia feeling like wow, this is how you showed things like there was a little bit of pomp and circumstance, and every like I remember I gave a lot of shit to Michael Bay those radiant filters baby. Well I! Give a lot of shit to Michael Bay for having everyone look sweaty, but man everyone in this. Is So sweaty. Everyone? Or the carrier young so sweaty and I'm like I'm about this like five hundred five sweats. Lake? The rating. sweaty movie! They didn't give you that field. That like it's hard as fuck all the time here in California I is going and everything in the corner like they had the. We're still sweating, but there are also like fans everywhere to be like look. We're trying, but it's not leave food. Go ahead, go ahead. I'll let you kind of felt like everyone's in heat. Everyone's ready to just boy. You know what I'm saying like. Nervous. All of various. where? We in lieu of stuff like that. We're like that doesn't make any sense. I believe one. They had a lot of consultants on the film from the Actual Navy, and there was at one point they did something and some guy was like will know. That wouldn't happen any any pilot. That Lingo doesn't work and the director turned him because we're not making the movie for those people because. People who just WanNa, fuck and rush? And so I think that. Ties in the fans in California like we're not making it for the people who who are going to be like well, that doesn't make any sense So they were the salt was like okay after that he's like I'm done. Never. It's a drama. It's a dramatized California in like. I've been to San Diego. Malik three times in my life and I'm like it's hot, but not that hot. Claims! Can I just hope that opening. sequence. About opening sequences accurate, 'cause like there's. Probably, not probably not knowing from that quote. That he goes doesn't fucking matter. Also just thinking about auto there. That's not real all also. The no way in Hell was like Oh. There's a make let's go fucking interact. You know what I mean like. Precipice. Raw. A ton of trouble if if you engaged or something probably yeah, and so I mean yeah. It's some would say I have friends in the film I who I stayed within film. Course. Who would just be like? This is a propaganda machine I'm like yeah, sure it is you know. Take it for what it is some propaganda here to get people in the military, but. But also it's good enjoyment and also, but it's. It's one of those things where it's like. You can't deny the cultural impact that it had so You know to that to that factor. It's like yeah. The fucking dogfights were Kinda Dope. We're really done anything about it like yeah, before that time, there wasn't a lot of films that attempted to like Mount, camera underneath the. Aircraft like that and so. And even I guess even tinkering with the idea that a woman would be in charge of you know briefing pilots to become the best of the best of the best was kind of I think a cool revolutionary thing, because just on the giant screen. Having a woman in charge in that sense is kind of yeah. We'll say. Go ahead I was just GonNa say, but also like her. She's more of the scientific part about of like even just the physics of it of like this is not how you do this like that. It was cool to see that scene, too when she when they're in kind of the. It's not the war room, but it's their. It's their classroom and she's explaining like okay. This is why that was. That move was good or will. It wasn't and she's really. The flight patterns and all this kind of stuff and it's like. There's really it's. It's really neat because it's not just about like. Oh, you're flying in a jet, but there's like there's a system to it. There's a there's a reason why this works or doesn't work. It's Kinda like why you know. ICEMAN is come the biggest asshole in the entire film, but like he's right ninety percent of the time. You're not. It's like it's like the the flying is not the problem, but you are the problem you cost. Everyone their lives. When you fly reckless, you'll, you'll kill somebody and it's like. To me, that's a wonderful self. Aggressing at all, he's just kind of stating facts. In that moment, you kinda like hey, look I worked really hard to get to where at and I deserve this point like privileged asshole. Fook you you're you come from that place? I like the other guy said. That comes in so it like it muddles actual message, but yeah he's he's legit like I'm going by the book and like the film talks about like you know having the person that's courageous and willing to break the barriers of what's protocol and not to save lives is what wins the day? But in all I see like a really wins. The wars are the fucking. Tactical ship that's gone by like procedural and has plans and going off that. Textbook, hundred percent. any other favorite parts. I do know if in fact that Anthony Edwards said that most of his lines were improvised because the script was so skeletal is a lot of the comedy was found in the moment. Because we didn't have anything else to go off so well. Shut to hamming. This is one of a Tony. Scott's I filmed right. So I assume that's definitely what happened where he's like. I'm just going to focus on getting the cool shots and stuff like that and he was like. Let the actors do they want to do so I can make sure I can make their performs like better. I was going to say shots ironsides. He hits away because I don't know like he's such a good military. Authority and like I. Literally a I always thought. If I was going to have a biography of one of my armie instructors I'm having him like he exactly. Is this guy I'm like Oh. My God so good. He's one of those underrated under the radar actors who just nails every part he's in. A hundred percent, but Oh, sorry, go! Ahead. I I really like the introduction of Charlie. Being at the Bar, and then maverick, trying to make his moves, and then she's like She's like plays along with the bet so that he can make his twenty bucks or whatever. And the next morning seeing him be like hall. No, we're. On. The like those moments are just. Like chef kiss so fulfilling that guy that she's out with at the bar is actually the consultant for the film who Maverick is based off of? Which is which is why Mavericks Name is a Peter. Because that's that guy's name, his last name but That's Maverick Colin. Peter Call them the voice of exactly what is. Now, shout out! All of that was great. was going to say was. I also Tom skerritt character a lot like he always loved. He provides that sense of like. The ghost again like this almost feels like band Guy Right? Yeah! Yeah, and that's like an all. If you just put it in, agree land touring. This whole movie could be a green and movie. because. That's kind of like how Jordan's like fucking like emo. He's like my dad died as a pilot. I WanNa be a pilot now. I'm going to be in the space worse but Tom skerritt really provides whole like hey, like there's something more to this care that we're not understanding why. What compels Maverick Maverick does and I think it operates on that psychological level of like I think it was almost like the teetering of life now films when we think about military or armed forces films there can't be. There cannot be a conversation of. Of the film without PTSD. And I think this kind of goes into what happens when you become indoctrinated into a mindset and a belief in a system. So? It was really cool to see like how that formulates, and this is kind of the beginning of those conversations and. On Thom scarce catcher really add some levity of like. You know beyond you know. Oh, yeah, we're just joy, joy, chasing, and going after like the thrill and the rush that there's a sense of. Re psychological recruitment. That happened within within. Families in going into the military. Because you know, it's kind of your legacy right, so it's like everyone's on our family bulb also so. It was cool to have that and then, plus also just like a little lanark. Little Dumbledore. -I. Everyone hates the my new boy but I know him well. You know like that kind of thing. So I mean a lot of fitting. Anyone else. I loved the even though I didn't. Like things the the the scenes that we're all just like allow. This movie was just like. The jets! And and then a lot of them being like you got to do the thing, go over there do this shoot that lock on. And then I didn't walk. Up Yeah so like you know the the drought. The drought! was communicated really well. Because even though I didn't like fully understand what was happening. I'm like the key Scott I. Don't know what he did, but he's doing it and it's happening right now. Except in in all of the excitement of like you don't know what's happening. which I feel is where some of that like. We're not making this. Re people who are actually in you know actually do the. Quotas actually for we're making it for Kansas, wheat farmers who won't know the difference. I may as well be Kansas wheat farmer because I was like hell. Yeah So much. was. Test of! It's it. They always clearly establish like. Just? In the fire and Also editing. Huge they. Did you get the information as you needed? They were only allowed to film. The US allowed them to film to missile launches, so they filmed them from three angles. Each and the same one is used same to shots are used in the film. At that is that some anime tactics. Bro, when they? Reused the animation. That some power rangers type Shit. Yeah. It went over budget so much I mean all those. All the plane. Shots are so expensive, yeah? Just, for using the planes, the government charged him one point eight million dollars, not including fuel and everything else. That's like cheap, though not then it wasn't not then, but but like. Considering what? This. Government subsidized, yeah! Million dollar budget. Two million dollars, not including the fuel that they have to do to refill it every time, and not including the two missiles just to use the planes was one point eight million dollars so I'm assuming probably like probably three or four for everything. Earlier films budget which is. One of the earlier films at to do stuff like this so. They got a lot of military stuff like dark knight on Dark Knight Batman Begins. They got so much military like help, and like who was at the entire time helping them develop, but this was like. Our other making a movie or some shit like that so i. Set the set the way, yeah like Mitt like all these consultants and stuff that are that we see in modern movies wasn't necessarily the case you know back then it's the writer wrote based on his her experienced, and that was pretty much it but like. As! The film's become more complex and stuff like that I. Think we've been saying more like you know like an army person. Come in and make sure that everything's right and all that's today. That's five million dollars, yeah! But. Some of the reading that I'd I'd done was was along the lines of like. Four like yes, that's very expensive, but it was also like they could have been charged far far more. Yeah. And also like this movie set off the lake or was at a time of like you had to get approval from the military down to the script. To let the movie come out, basically, because the X. Men was part of that as well like they had to the approvals right all the. Actual military branch. Yeah, there. That's why they have consultants on stuff like that and they typically have to say you know the go like. Does this reflect in a where it doesn't put Bronx? Expectations is the same thing with police to and any armed forces. But yeah, I mean we're dead cops. Yeah. On that yeah, they did. and. I would say the tough thing is like. They could have been charged a lot more by like. Coming from someone like me, who's made nothing but short low budget shit when I had ten thousand, I had to spend two thousand on one location and I was like. That's a lot of money. For sure for sure like I. It's just hard to be like okay cool like we have fifteen million. How are we gonNA, divide this amongst the hundreds of people working the hundreds of hours working the food. And then now twenty percent of it is going to be gone to one thing. And so. It's like it has to sell the realism right. You have to the production value to go into it so like. You know, thank goodness that it did because you know again like I said it's a cultural thing. We're seeing the sequels so yeah I wanNA. Combat and now. The entire GDP of New Zealand because destroyed it, so let's do New Zealand fronted a lot of that money because they made so much off tourism though. and. They wanted people. Touchy about all off Camera Ali. Let's go and. Characters. Goose. This to hard. There's a reason that captain marvel's cat is named goose, and it's because it's such a great character I was lying when I said he's the murky of this movie in Romeo and Juliet. If Romeo and Juliet had died, but mccue came out, and like gave this beautiful speech, because he's Mercutio and he's interested in signing, everything would have been. It have been a tragedy. It'd be like Oh. It was a love story. Tragedy? But she goes okay I've made to interesting of a character. He has to die. That same thing happened here. I think you know especially if they improvise all their lines I think they were like okay. We've made to interesting of a character here. He today because I cared more about goose than I did about anyone else honestly like especially with him, giving the speech like that being upset after being yelled at for the ten thousand feet in the fly by and being like. Gibert thing like loving his son singing at the piano and that kind of stuff I was all in for goose, one hundred percent, and if you've made it to the end, I would have been like I. Don't give a fuck. What happened in this movie? Goose do you know catcher? Marvel's cat's real name in the books. Yes chewy! To Answer Chewbacca. Same thing, baby. That's why we're still can start working. But pilot. They're both copilot's. That's why but yeah I it's. A second. I wasn't prepared for that. I I'm on the odd team of I. Don't like Maverick. I don't as an older. Twenty years old team. Okay, good because I just I. I up until the end I was like you blew it big time. I liked either Tom skerritt, character, viper, or ICEMAN. was was far more interesting to me. I thought Tom Skerritt I love. I've a bias towards Tom skerritt as well. But I thought every scene he was in. He won't told this line of like. Look! I gotta be firm I have to be fair to everyone else, but at the same time I recognize game recognize game. And this kid's got it and you know telling them away from him like put them in the air as soon as you can. I, know this kid I know how he works. Put Him in the air as soon as you can. And then he fails, and they're like well. What nowadays I put him back up? Get him up there. He needs this so yeah Tom skerritt. Don't use old white guy with a beard. CAN'T ARGUE THAT whose neck can't that. Mine are goose in the Nice iceman. for very good reasons, also I just love I spent. What welcome I love him. Love Him I hear so. Bobby actually didn't want to do this movie either he was like. It was his contract. That obligated him to do this movie. Otherwise he wouldn't have to correct. Yeah, but I don't know the reason behind why he didn't want. Do it just not interested he he is a the thing about Belco is. He is a character actor of substance and I. DON'T WANNA. Nagas film now a lot of substance as far as character development goes not only for his character, but there's no like designed science right? Yeah, so I think for him. He read the script which was. Quoted as being skeletal, and it was like I'm not doing this. But then was forced to. I thought process behind it. I loved him in in the Saint Anyways Josh. I'M GONNA. Say Goose. I love, I really love watching him onscreen. I love the interactions with Maverick I love watching him with his family. He just a good dude. Corey already gone into why he is a good nude. There's so many cool things about him. Second I mean there's a lot of goose baby I? Even love Charlie. I thought she was a cool character to kind of put maverick in his place. Gestures cool. said to fibers I'm just saying who's cool, so I have narrow it down to I'm allowed to speak my mind. I'll say Charlie I'll narrow it down to Charlie I liked her putting Charlie goosing Charley. Right who's next Kalem go. Charlie's my favorite. She knows her shit. She knows like what's happening. How people are why they're doing it? she called him out and was like. Listen I there's some official things I can't say. She kind of had that like iceman iceman like iceman iceman. But she had that part where she was like. Listen, there's there's a textbook way to do things and I have to adhere to that. That is my job, so I can tell you personally. My feelings, but I have to keep things textbook for my job like I. Just loved how she had all of her moments of like being human, being professional, being knowledgeable like signature guns on like she was really cool, and then other than that. Yeah, I do like iceman iceman. Simaba iceman just like he he you can tell. Yeah. He's a little cocky, but he also worked really hard to get where he was and Bruce. Lee Baby was frustrated by other people who he can see the potential of petits them like reckon themselves over and over. Goddamn fly boy. Yeah, so yeah, those those are my picks. Charlie iceman ice been. Foot mine. Minds ICEMAN Ben Charles. Now, because, I'll say this because you haven't mentioned in Charlie what I really liked about her was. At the beginning, she was very manipulative I really like that because like she was like. I know how to get what I want and how to manipulate you to get it without with you thinking you're and get what you want and I'm like that's a good character that's. You know what I mean like not a churches a written so well. When they're manipulating that way like the various like in the in the shadows and then. You, did everything. It's like well. No Shit! was that character because they weren't involved, so gooby do formula, but this one's like A. we're going to see her do it because this is the hugh and she's used that. Meet Cue for the push pool, and then she's GonNa pull that thing together aren't getting what she wants, and so that's really cool like to learn about the make. So, but then also iceman like. Two coreys point as a kid I liked maverick as an adult I. Liked iceman, because it's just like. You know you need to have maverick air to sell the yeah dreams who need. Like. This is the real work. Example Shit like you need to be accountable about your actions. So That's it for me moving onto qualms ripe. Coup to qualms to qualm to each. Was I. This is a big one for me. And this is I, think as an adult. Okay? That's my asterix like that time. was like. Oh No, no, it's. It was just it was. So for me, this is what as an adult as someone who likes to think that they ingest film and and try to make. Sense of it all it. Nothing felt earned. In this for me. The revelation with his dad I was just Kinda like cool. They kind of touched on it twice. And then there's this whole thing about. It was never like something. I felt that was eating at him. Felt like it was a couple side comments, and to be honest until that scene with Tom Scared I was like Oh. Yeah, his dad. He doesn't know what happened to him. I thought the the I get why they killed off goose the way they did. It just felt very just we'd Ni to me. So with with me, understanding it had to happen the way it happened was kind of like. fucking bullshit man. And the biggest part for me that made Charlie, not my favorite character, because otherwise she would have. was after this kid's at total fucking prick for a majority of the time. She knows him. She chases him down after knowing him for a week and it's like I'm falling for you and you're like Bull Shit. You are stronger and smarter than that girl and you know it. Not Not not not. To an extent, it's appropriate time, but again we also have movies like Beverly Hills Cop. We also have movies like flashdance like these movies that that were able to create this romance through a film. That wasn't necessarily like. Not a romance film, but it happens anyway. Volvo earned it's not like I fall in love with you after a week and it's like yeah. This, set to make her like like more intelligent or and more like you know. They made her so smarter. Forgotten check boxes. Need some. If she is a smarter person growing up with Schwarzenegger and stallone films like they were trying to cross breed. What cory is trying to strive for? But then instead he kinda shows the blemishes of both. Yeah, so it's very interesting where it's like and that's where I'm like. It's good, but also but why. Yeah and so for me. It just none of those things that are supposed to be these key points of this movie. Are Very are I. Guess earned, isn't they? Don't feel like they. They spent the time to let these things flourish. And, if if that had happened towards the end of the movie, I would have bought it more. But it's so early on that I'm just like girl. No, you know this, you know yeah I'll go ahead and so I mean that was. That was kind of it it just. It reminded me that. That this director was like we're making it for fucking Kansas. Farmers who don't know the difference and like that shines now that I know that. After watching this movie, I'm like Damn Yeah. They didn't really they were just like. This is where the start of that fucking add. Filmmaking started like lean into that that group of people. They don't need substance. They just need. Fighter. Pilots sex scenes and jokes and the matters in baby. That's where we're going to lay. And we're GonNa hit the marks, but we're really not gonNA dive into him, and that was. That was my biggest qualm walking away from this movie. As as thirty year old, it makes sense with saying that it was a release skeletal script that we had these points. We needed a hit and we're going to fill it in his best he can, but if it's not more developed than that the we can't really dive much deeper without getting a writing credit. Yeah, I would almost say that. If you've got a script that skeletal, don't make it, but I mean. Who Am I to say it made you know it did great fine, but from a story standpoint I don't think it did. Yeah. I. I was just GonNa say because mine is is kind of my my walking away from this film of seeing it preparing for this episode. And being of a different mind, it was kind of like I felt like it was a soap opera with jet engines like there were just so many moments that I was just like. Perfect. You're saying Corey, like yes I say Charlie is one of my favorite characters, but there are moments like I hate I hate the portrayal of like love, and in movies of like. We've known each for a week and I'm falling for you and I'm like that's not. I might kill myself in especially asking the moment he just revved his Fuckin-. Kawasaki motorcycles like I can't hear you and then drives off and she's like I'm trying to say I love you and I. was like I can't hear you and drove off. It'd be like okay. Maybe I need to reassess. About falling for I I know there's a lot of examples of like good well done things, but that is like a very mainstream trope. That's like such a mainstream trope of. When romantic interests me, they don't like each other or there's there's clash between them, and so like to me. It's like it's so much DNA of the time you know where it's like. That is where a massive audience was expecting. Because there's of course ninety five percent. Yeah. There's more examples of the bad way doing it than the good way doing it. Are the ones that we stick our minds, but like yeah. Like. That's what happening is I. Knew I know movies where it's possible made in the same year that have done it to an extent that they're still movies. I watched to this day and go. This is fucking amazing. And so I have a hard time giving it a pass for that reason. I just feel like that's why it's kind of like. It is soap opera because I think you also during the time like in the eighties. That was when the soap operas were huge this. Before Jag and fucking Walker Texas Ranger almost one. Some of the lines delivered like. Like. There's so many things that you. zooms baby. Comes in some of the quips like of the other Flyer, the pilots I was like. Oh my God. Yeah Anyway. I mean that's really like my only. My only qualm of the film over overall soap opera with wings and jet engine. It was just like okay. The exile Salen. For me had to do with Basically the death for the most part I mean you kind of touched on quite a bit but Yeah, I. Just everything was so well polished while presented, but you know it was all surface level details in. You had a little bit of depth here and there and I think some of character stuff kind of. Like with With the girlfriend kind of. was starting to go somewhere and I could feel a little bit happening there, but it felt a little force ultimately and things like that, so yeah I mean it just as well presented, but as soon as you try to take a closer look at any of these situations that kind of fall, apart a little bit narrative for goose. Except for goose as an in depth coverage I didn't love I. Don't like having seen the so long ago. I hadn't remembered exactly the details of of his death scene, and then watching it again, reminding myself of what actually it was, it was very. Eleftheros requires like this. Why did it happen like there's so many more impactful ways that could have happened? With how much ramping up? You like you do for that character and just? Pay Like just to kind of Joson like that I'm right there with Ya. joss baby. Kayla. For me, it was yeah that the relationship with Charlie and maverick, just maybe like. Oh, no, no, and like she even says like a goose's wife is like taking a better I'll leave you forever, something like that, but like later on Charlie's to maverick and I'm like you guys are such a bad match that you had to take goose's wife's line to make it feel more real. Yeah. Didn't I, that's. Yeah! What did she set it as a? Moment between goose and I can't remember Meg Ryan's character. Yes, me basic is sweet. Little sweet little moment of like some good old Kansas country love like well. Under the. Context it's a married couple to. Has that layer of like. Oh! Like. A young. Why? So to see them like. Kinda, snatch that line was the epitome of like my problem with that is like y'all y'all aren't even close to what that is. And then. Yeah just the I mean. It was very well tempered, but the cheese got. Like annoying at several points, but that's Disney princess level of damaging young girls, yes. The flip it. S It. It's like Oh, we could. After a week of just having sex, we could say things like. Oh I just meant the Mitch. He's Mo was an will also. He's talking about the relationship between like yeah, both yeah, both both in both directions. Or Rabin, actions against. One is what kind of thing is gonNA. Be This. This film doesn't has an aged as well as it could. and under. Twenty Twenty, eight. Hundred Twenty twenty is. It just you kind of see blemishes of what time was like back then and what people were looking forward into their blockbuster. Films the expectations. Yeah, and then my second qualm more of again to discussion piece for me. I don't know. Is this film service better as a multifaceted film that touches a lot of topics or as a TV pilot that was going to go on for five seasons. because. Where which one do you WANNA focus on? TV show. I we want to focus on the rivalry of maverick and ICEMAN so. Courage Textbook. Do you want to focus on the friendship of goose and Maverick single life or husband life? Do you want to focus on the tragedy of mavericks past so childhood trauma in establishment do want to focus on the romance between Maverick and love relationship, so it's a ROM com or CW show in the military, so there's a lot of the things and I think you could say a film could be multifaceted. In a positive light where I'm going to say, this film is a little. Like there's so much going on to just try to throw as much as it needs to be like I. WanNa figure out more of that stuff that was. Can qualm hundred percent. It was like. Too many threads. Two threats I think that's probably what prevented it from diving into one of the things. I think it's kind of one of those things like a bad light you call it to you. Call unfocused under a positive light. You call it multifaceted right so does one really touch on the other. Does you know? Goose is Goose Mavericks Relationship Affect Iceman's and mavericks relationship I don't know. Does that affect Shar Charlie's and Mavericks Relationship? I don't know, but it does. mavericks like Weird Trauma to his childhood effect. How all those relationships possibly could ever. possibly. It's kind of like when you think of. All the relationships kind of affect each other everything that's happened to Bruce. Wayne affects so many potentially important plot points that you're like. Wait with the DAD thing. It's like like cory what you said. It's like it's it's an unearned. It's an unearned detail at the end of the day you're. That could be. That could have been a really cool story point, but. But you just have time. Scared said to him. Yeah, you WANNA. Walk though like even though they're not. Developed their effect is still like still done in a way. That you come away from the movie dealing pretty good. Well I mean that's you do I. I, I'm I'm. Looking forward to the sequel to though because I wanna see hopefully, the death of goose is still weighing on maverick and how? To, get! Get a packed all his other relationships have been. Because I'll tell you right now. It doesn't look like Charlie's in that fucking movie, so no, that's. All Day. All I don't know but anyway so like that's the thing where it's like okay. Cool now you now. We've seen trauma now. Houses trauma going to effect this characters development with other characters. Will that affect learning through order for them to. Not. My hopes are very high minar. Even somebody who walked away from this movie, not enjoying it that much from the trailer. Here's the thing also in the time since this thirty four years. Since this movie come out. Tom Cruise has become a much better actor, yeah. This was only his I'll. Go ahead. Shot up to my two other characters Tom's UNI brow and Tom's teeth. So that's all that shit done in this in this new trailer, so he's he's thirty four year. Veteran actors become a much better actor in that time and I. Know I don't know who said it here. I know Tom's crazy but I'm a fan. said that John, I think I think. Tom, cruise films are so much fun. No. Anytime I know that he's going to be in a movie. I'm like I'm in yeah, man I think I think movies especially as underrated ones like night and day I loved that movie. I thought that was hilarious. If you don't I'll kill her kill. Kill me myself and then I'll kill the girl. So I'm excited for that alone because he. He's bringing his game to this I, think he. As a veteran of the actor world knows the weight that comes along with this. You also have actors like. Miles Teller Ed Harris. You Have Jennifer Connelly? These are all in my mind. In my heart like I have loved every single movie. These these people have done. and. The cinematography looks fantastic and how we've come along with film. Film language, and and and just writing just technology and writing. Yeah, I think it's I think it's going to be a huge step forward franchise well. That's what that's. What makes me tired because watching the first one in realizing like the last few movies that Tom Cruise's made and all the crazy stunt work that goes involved with that. That's what I'm excited for. Even though you know I have mabry Henson's about the story I know it's GonNa be a good time like based on just that, and then I'm hoping that it does have like a deeper exploration of the character and his past. And I mean it's supposed to be him teaching so again. It's kind of a wonderful development to see someone who is a student. Now become a teacher honors the I. Like they're they're to me. There's only up. You could technically go if you just wrote it well, you know like there's so much good that you have to remember also that they got franchise money now. This was the the no one was like. This isn't gonNA work. This is the most movies I'll be spent time. Writing is island. We didn't do whatever, but now they got like putting all our eggs in a basket. We've hired. Probably the best writers best editing team that kind of Tom Cruise wants to come in and say let's make an I think on you better make an I think. Chris mcquarry did the story who did the last three or last two mission impossible, so yeah, which is going to be great movies great so now let's move on to the last part of the show which is going to be our rating. Goes I or give can be Corey and then Josh Anton Kaelin. Ca I can start off. Yeah, go for I. Give this movie very solid Four. Because at the end of the day with all of its little issues as we've outlined I still love the performances. I love the one liners. I love the music cemetery. All those things make me feel. And that's important. So good, and there's a give and take so for me. I'M GONNA. Hit it right at. They're a strong for Yeah. I. Weigh on the side of the critics for this one unfortunately. It is sitting at a strong three point three and giving it credit for the time it was made. I'll give it a three point three. Three Point Josh you go first. Am I'M GONNA. Give it A. Baby. Yeah. I'm always afraid to when I'm about to give something a three point eight point. Yeah Three Point Eight I. Still, dig the movie. I don't think it's perfect. There are lots of things that I enjoy about it but yeah three point eight. Tom. I am also at a solid four, and there's a subjective score, and then there's the object store right so again. This is the objective score. To do that, but go ahead. This is this is the. Fire right back. What's the subjective or objective was active is is mainly. That's what I think is. The that's what counts is. The objectiveness is because. I will say the filmmaking is stand up above everything else. It stands above everything else like. I can really to same Corey's appointment T. Take or leave the writing because like the writing is taking her. Leave it really. But the way that they made the film and shot it and the way it looks it's to me I'm like you don't get this anymore. You don't get well made constructed beautiful shots anymore. And you do get it from a few people, but you know how much they make hundred hundred million dollars. Yeah, they don't make that much anymore and to to be in this time where it's like. This guys you can do a blockbuster budget, and still have style to it and not have color to it and have emotion involved in your framework. Not just be like well, look, it looks like A. Ranch is. So, I mean like so that that gives it so much more credence than my subjective feeling of it, because it's one of those storms like if it's on, I may not watch it I'm like stopping. With this subjective score then. Now I. Don't talk about that. 'cause minor winning the same. Tuned to two scores out there then it's like that breaks find the average between the two. and Go from there. Anyway. I went into this movie, expecting to hate it. Because I. Don't like things that are like A. I don't know military armed forces. Anything like that is just normally. I started tuning out because there's a lot of cheese and that's. The same way the slipways, the slippery slope of where chauvinism kind of gets, it's like how I am with big saints, suddenly just like glaze over, and I'm like I. Don't know what actually that's me, no idea. so he came out of this movie. thinking like it changed some of my perception of. All of that so I. I give it more credit because of that perspective shift. And I will set it at a four point two. Because it's so you have problems you. Don't like the movie. Liked. The movie I like the Miami University. which is why I hesitate so much? There's a lot of things that I'm not fond of in this movie that Blake like. That one giving us for so if I give it a four point because of the entertainment value that I, got out of it and how it. Proactively shifted some of my perspective. On like Armed Forces! We city humanized, yeah, he. Armed Forces a lot more for me. Because most of the people have come in contact with that were part of the armed forces. Have painted a very negative light like very negatively. It's it sucks a lot, but so this I give this more credit because it actively gave me a perspective shift. Sure Yeah and So there has sadly been a very clear line of like the people who have drawn a really positive light for the armed forces in my life, and if you haven't saying. but I'll say makes me WANNA kind. Do Predator up so now. Yeah, I'm. Glad we. Out kaylynn shuttle, take wait I gotta give a shout out first nation, because I'm not stealing Bali Dana P for guessing correctly when you are the gum. What does it Tom Your guests? Dresser! Gal Alley. Banner? A banner, and all the best shooting. See in your notebook before. Going up. No Sir I just wanted to point out. We always say that just because you get the lowest as you like dislike, the movie or whatever, but I think also the other way to defend your score like the other way applies to just because you're the highest scored. You like your favorite movie. Love No! There hasn't been a lot of scores for Kaelin. That's less than four since her really hard to get me to rate things below four and for all you, there hasn't been a lot of things above threes. Aren't Disney so I well? To me, my scores more entertainment value based like did I, did I, enjoy my experience in some capacity than yes but it but I also remove a lot of the. like it would be yeah. You'd have to really really be personally jarring for me to drop below for. A lot of personal beef with something to be below a for how this is the part where someone goes back and is like puzzle. Pulls out. Beef, with all these films. Actresses. Films. Such. A movie buff. I think. On the ground. We're here I'm with Tom I. Don't think I would if it was on TV I'd probably wouldn't watch it I I'm sad a little bit because as a kid I did love this movie. But now it is just like A. It's an interesting. Perspective change because I understand as interesting to shift that perspective to be like I. Probably won't watch movie again. That Air Yeah That's like if this was on again, I'd be like good. It's bizarre. Message received I. Don't really want to see it again. Just go watch a goose line compilation. What you'll get the satisfaction I might. Know what me Captain America. No I don't think I will. Say. Oh here it is. Kaelin has beef with fast color. anyways alright seeing John's everybody at home. Thank you so much for listening or watching. If you are on Youtube, we really appreciate all of you If you are new to on check our website nerd on TB, it has all the information about everything that we do. do stop by rate and review US wherever you listen apple podcast spotify. 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Weekly Zeitgeist 104 (Best of 12/2/19-12/6/19)

The Daily Zeitgeist

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Weekly Zeitgeist 104 (Best of 12/2/19-12/6/19)

"In the future is closer than you think and it all starts in the palm of your hand you may have heard the news. Five G. is coming but but what does that really mean. How impact me in this new iheart series this time tomorrow presented by t mobile business? Join me and my co host characterize as we will you through the true revolution immobility. That will change the way we interact with the world around us from environmental science to law enforcement. Entertainment Healthcare and travel innovation is coming join. Join us as we explore. How this revolution could impact your life and here just how close we are getting to a more connected future full of possibilities in the the age of five G.? This time tomorrow presented by team about business is now available on the iheartradio APP or wherever. You listen to podcasts Hello the Internet and welcome to this episode of the weeklies Zeitgeist These are some of our favorite segments from this week. all edited together into one Nonstop infotainment laugh. Strata Ganda So so without further ado here is the weekly Zeitgeist really. What is something from your search history? That's revealing about who you are I just looked up. let's see here. I wanted to know Jack. Nicholson's age when he found the shining Do you guys have any idea of with forty close forty three. That's exactly right forty-three wow that's just a guess. I think so literally the US some kind of math. I didn't do any math and I looked up right to Tom. Hanks Forrest gump and he was. I believe he was forty two so these guys did some of their best work in their forties. Yeah you guys have nothing to be afraid of. Okay right our whole life ahead of us and I was looking at it up because Dr Sleep did you actually doctor sleep. No not yet. If you are a king we had go see Dr Slow Really. Yeah the whoever wrote it the the writer at managed to Meld the movie and the book together to make a pretty impressive Asif sequel. If you're if you're not You might not be as jazz but every Stephen King Fan. I've talked to love Doctor Sleep That's why I checked out his age. Forty three three years old and he looks great. Sexy as ever. What a hairline? Though several seventies hairlines are still sexy now if you meet a man who has that her line they're just not a hike up as much as that hairline but I'm talking about sexy elude heroin Nicholas cage is also like they. Yeah like he has all sorts of hair implants and shit like when he used to have that hairline and then Hollywood ruined him like no. You must have a strong hairline. But yeah I I feel like they're not allowing that sorta hairline in movies anymore. You either either get hair plugs or shave your head clean. Like a Bruce Willis. We gotTa Bring Bald Baxter. You bring a ball. It's just a deep deep V.. Yes let me Love Bill. Murray about about all that stuff and these are sexy men. Yeah they're not Conventionally attractive but Ross sexuality rarely is okay talking about oozing off. Let's slam down in the bedroom. Let's see what you got battle with battle bots can Alexander you remember when Colin Farrell was just with Dawson like they were literally almost punching each other. Oh Yeah Yeah. That's the kind of sex I'm talking to man. You know it's funny. I was in the movie. That was a the bombed also. It's funny I was so fucked up when I saw that Like on Zanex or some shit. I only remember three parts. It's that part and this other part where Val Kilmer is talking about a horse goes. His mind is broken. I have so many funny memories about being Up in the theater I remember I was drunk and I saw troy and I was just so drunk at some point like tomboys in just like went and sat in the lobby it was like the last showing arena the Cova. AMC and then the people came up to me. And they're like hey. We're going to get rid of these hotdogs unless you want to buy them for ninety nine cents and I was like this is the best night. I don't remember the movie hotdogs dollars Yes please. Another one Frailty that movie fell fully. I was awake for the first credits woke up at the very worst. Frailty and it was like Bill Paxton filmed inconvenient. Really yes so very odd that you're saying that my mom lives right by where they filmed that. incovenient frailty yeah these weird cy. It's a smaller thriller. Actually very good. Yeah and Michael Personnel Perssonel. Someone has someone trying to figure out if they really have psychic abilities. Okay good. It's like a pro pro like someone's got it got it. Yeah I I think it was right around the time. Like a cramp. I remember very vividly ocean. Spray started making white cranberry peach juice me and my friends midst mix excite with a bunch of vodka in the back of his trailblazer fucking went to that movie. I woke up this fucked. Two thousand one. This shit came out or two thousand in two thousand eighteen. Yeah and I'm fucking the Chevy Blazer back before they gave it a nickname was when they it was the new body style show. It was his His black trailblazer. But yeah. It wasn't the old school plays. What is a myth? What something people think is true? You know to be false love. It is the most important part of a relationship. Okay what's the most important part. I think there's a bunch of things but I love is maybe twenty five percent breath. It's like not even that Berea deal. Have you been in love more than once. I don't know actually I don't even. I don't feel like you even want to talk about it. Yeah so you can't be talking soon as I saw my wife for the first time. I've been at several relationships internships and I know people who are just looking for love but you know I think how people communicate how you argue the same values. You have What you want to spend your money on? There's a bunch of other things at play such an important part and I just think I know too many people who've when they find love they'll like trying to hold on to it at all costs and it's like not that big of a deal. Yeah you'll be surprised how quickly you can find love. Yes but like you say it's really those other things like sure of coarseness. The love is there but are y'all acting as a team yes a one thing because too many people are too caught up especially when they argue in some ways to be the good guy and some was the bad guy and we will. Now Begin to litigate. Who is the bad person between the two of us because it's a binary and if you're the bad person that I can flex on you you were bad that time versus like what's is there a problem okay? Do we need to fix it or are we still have this egoistic attachment to being like but I was right and you were wrong because if things happen you can approach it as a partnership and be like okay. Yeah I fucked up. I'm like actually sorry like we can we. Should we should do that differently. And it doesn't have to be like but you're bad the run up an important point right there. That's one of the things I've learned in. Romantic relationships is If you're with a good person you should only good people really love you and you know our our aren't using you for free meals if you're with someone who is a good person and they love you. Nobody that loves. You ever really does anything to hurt. Are you on purpose. So yeah so you have to start from that place whereas if this person did something to hurt me they didn't do it on purpose so say hey this hurts me are when you do this this this bothers me and it makes me feel this way and then they usually go okay. I'm sorry I didn't realize that they need just move on right versus. That was so fucked up. I don't know why the fuck you would do that. How dare you? I am sorry I took a dump. I mean honestly. I almost say a person's argument style is more important point than love because Yeah people can be very vicious and mean are they carry patterns that they saw in their child incorrectly. Klay to that thing and and you know you're gonNA just bump into problems more so yeah I do think people talk about finding love. I think it's kind of a false narrative and it's been sold wholesale. Bill golds bullshit to us as something. That's super important. Find someone you have fun with science find. Someone said you want to spend your money on the same thing and find someone communicate with and I think and that's why I'm a huge fan of arranged marriages Nepali guy. Yeah I was GONNA say that like gift. Love is a feeling like I definitely like when I was a kid had like that like heart sick like feeling more than I ever did like as an adult like. Oh my God I'm completely destroyed over this shit and like I feel that was because I wasn't a complete person like I had actually actually I lived my life and so yeah there was just like more tied up in that around like ready for it. I cried over a girl who broke up with me and we only held hand right. Yeah Oh yeah yeah you realize how fucked up the stakes grew eleven years old. You ooh all right so bill bar got his report. He had been working on this. He'd been traveling around the world. Talking to people interviewing people apple probably go into various going. My Brady's yeah looking in the car. Cadillac the Davinci code but with a Walrus faced asshole asshole. Manto Bara So yeah he you know he asked the inspector general he said. I need you to investigate. You know how the FBI came to begin again. This investigation of Russian meddling in two thousand sixteen you know Carter Page with what happened with these fiso warrants. What what was really going on with Peter Struck and Lisa Page Hayes? FBI agents who had the temerity to say that they'd thought trump shouldn't be president while being in the FBI. Because I think he was really hoping that someone would come back with the report basically saying I guess if in your mind if you're like this Republican fantasy politician who has complete disregard for facts objectivity objectivity you would hope that the inspector general would come back with a report that said. Oh yeah there's all these biased. FBI Hillary loving agents who were against against president. The steele dossier was the entire basis of our legal system and Obama wired everything everything Alabama listened to it all and was being so spooky at trump tower but the problem is this inspector general. He is known as being a stickler and being very as as many people Doj Past and present officials said he's known for being nitpicky a little bit When even when Eric holder was attorney general Report the Inspector General. WHO's a stickler for details? Especially when you say hi. Can you investigate my house. Can you tell me what's your house in order people behaving crater. Yeah you kind of need those people it'd be like yeah. I go by the federal law. That home inspectors such a stickler for detail. Yeah Okay there's a hole in the roof. You can put cardboard and brash bags it works and so now he's come back I was saying with Eric Holder. Like typically attorneys general will be like. Oh come on like they'll be like this person went to Harvard William Bars like Nah. I don't like what this guy said had because what came back from the inspector generals that there was nothing untoward going on right. Everything happened to the letter of the law. All these other conspiracy theories theories they've been running around with like really. Don't hold any weight there were there. Is that one moment. We talked to a few weeks ago when they did find that there was in the process of getting a surveillance warrant people were cutting corners and got sloppy. Right was hanging onto that but it was not really anything that they're saying. Oh this is actually the massive massive misconduct by one minor illnesses exactly and so because his whole reason for living has been to defend offend trump and shield him and make anything he says true even if it is just patently false He's basically said this is from the Washington Post What his reaction to seeing this report was attorney? General William P bar has told associates. He disagrees with the justice. Department's Inspector General on one of the key findings in an upcoming report at the FBI had enough information in July two thousand sixteen to justify launching an investigation into members of the trump campaign. Yes that is sort of the whole finding right the whole thing. Well the whole thing was George. Popadopoulos was saying out loud to an Australian ambassador official. That do these Russian I heard the rush is gonNA. They'RE GONNA they're gonNA do some hackery Brent. With Hillary Clinton some person then goes to the Australian officials they tell American law enforcement. Like this someone. Someone seems to think this is happening if you want to look into it. Yeah all pretty straightforward then league goes on to say why he doesn't really like what Horwitz who was the inspector general. His conclusion inclusion. He says that he's privately. Contended that Horowitz does not have enough information to reach the conclusion the FBI had of details in hand to justify opening approp- so he he doesn't have enough information about them having enough information to diversify. That's why this is wrong because actually even though I told him that he needs to look into this and he probably has all the information it turns out based on his conclusion. Day actually doesn't have enough information because that's different than what I needed to be right. It's very very alarming. which as it should be because William Bar has been going to places like Italy or London to like talk doc to other allies in London on his alarming Irishman? But like going there and like trying to get other people other or Intelligence agencies to say Oh yeah maybe there was something wrong. They're all like no man. We're all but we've all been hearing the same thing we've all been looking at how Russia's become more emboldened and more more and more aggressive since two thousand fourteen it all tracks you have nothing to the contrary to say and I think this is where we have to think about. What is his next move because when he got the mother report with that said there's all these accounts of obstruction? There's clearly some kind of conspiracy going on. Were it not for all the lying. Hang of Paul Manafort and others involved. I may know actually how dark this thing is. William Bar came out and tried to get a front of it and just basically lied and was like yeah. It's all good. The things pretty chill nothing to see here. I would call it. Selective summarizations summarized three of the four hundred pages. Yeah just focused in on that right exactly so I mean who knows what he's going to do with this if he's GonNa go on and say This one very narrow part. I'm GONNA completely blow out of contact. I try and keep it. Sounds like he didn't even have like the SPEC that he could blow out into a huge deal now because he is going back to them being like. Just give me a fucking Buckingham. Yes give me something something. Do you know what the the most just given Irish. Not Not an Irish perspective. I can only speak for myself as an outsider looking in America and the media. Now No. It's it's fascinating to watch that. It doesn't seem to be the truth but it's the most compelling narrative and how you present it on air. Yeah Oh yeah like literally talking heads. WHO's the better talking head who can call? Who can hold the audience? Because I when I came here I didn't know oh about the two sides of the media whenever I didn't so I'm just flicking through and it's shocking to see how believable if you immerse yourself in one side you know how believable it can be right. You know I'd be very slow to label anyone on either side anything because this is the most incredible propaganda I've ever seen right and it's endlessly funded. Yeah it's on real because it makes its own money propaganda that people pay for. Yeah Yeah it's like it's shocking. It's entertainment disguised as news. Yeah it's just like this. Fever Dream to whip people into a frenzy unreal unreal. And you know the great thing about investigations right depending on which side. You're on just like investigations. In general you want them to be happening to government government all the time. What's very interesting to watch right now? Is that no one. I have a feeling no one's GonNa go to jail because these are the lawmakers right right. Yeah so no like it'd be nice to for the right people to be held accountable. But it's becoming very clear. No one seems to go to jail. And if they if they're empowered once you get to a certain level yeah like lower level you could be made a sacrificial lamb as a gesture people say that yeah the rule of law ORCS in some cases but yeah I think I mean and this is why we're like in this other phase which is becoming even more sort of alarming. Is like this legal nihilism that that people have it's like who cares what are the fucking laws because even there people breaking them and there seems to be no consequences or people completely outright disobeying Bang Subpoenas or using stupid little countersuits to kind of just delayed their ability to be held accountable. It's made people very very disheartened. Yeah but I think that's why at the very least like just keep doing whatever you can because the second that I think you know the foot comes off the gas a bit. Oh yeah well you got you got you now. You GotTa fight for what you believe you know. And it's just shocking to me to to watch just say growing up in Ireland so at night on the news weekly monthly or maybe just it felt like that as a kid someone was either getting shot in the knees or a barracks being blown up or or some some explosive device going off you know less than one hundred miles or one hundred whatever mas wet and now that's that's where it can go you you know and I saw that in Ireland and I saw in Liberia West Africa with the United Nations. I was doing peacekeeping over there. I saw the extremes where you've got child. Soldiers people cutting off Arms Long Sleeve short sleeve option. Was your only option for these. These child sold just like I don't think people know the capacity. Humans have for evil because if they did they wouldn't be the rhetoric people are using now and how they're talking about their adversaries it leads down. It's a slow it's it's a slow erosion of the fabric of society. That you don't you have to be very careful with how you speak about your what you perceive to be your enemy. Because you don't need race or gender to be at war with someone I saw tribes in Africa. You know attacking each other. I've seen it in Ireland Catholics and Protestants. I would just. I would really like America to consider that rather than trying to find the differences. Just really do reach across the aisle. Because you do do not want the deterioration that is available in any country to happen. Here guys have special here. No one's done this. No one's got three hundred fifty million people from all over the universe to live in relative with a lot of problems harmony. Like this is this is potentially intially. I don't WanNa be too dramatic. You know you just they all phrase powder keg don't push don't start lighten matches around you know where where there's a lot of tension because over ten years to slow erosion you won't even see it creeping. Yes and be very just lead with love as they say you know. Yeah Yeah that's my honest opinion. Yeah like an add. It is fun. It's fun to rile up the far side but long term guys not you you guys. But in general longtime long-term the propaganda machines have to be very careful what they do because once polarized two groups. It's very hard for them to see each other as human. Yeah no and I think that's the increasingly this sort of dehumanizing rhetoric that comes out of like the president or people like this. There's this new thing of like not new. But as the president's actions become more and more Obviously corrupt and people are holding them accountable. The rhetoric is also changing too now. Now people who are asking for accountability or subhuman. They're scum there whatever and that's that's really. Yeah this is the thing that a lot of people are talking about in this country too because because as this keeps going and going and going you know it's the logical end that it plays out to is not is not one of not not a good time. We have a very I. Short term collective memory like. Look if you have history in the schools is a real good chance. That people history's been taught well in a country or or at least somewhat honest but you know that could be by design row in Ireland somehow. That's one thing that I think we do quite well which is teach history But you know allows people to have a relatively good perspective take on how things will shape up if you go down. A certain road did that. We still have the civil war right right but you know you don't WanNa be doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past so yeah. I don't think you're in your schools you're teaching people that The civil war was about a difference in economic Systems like where people like here like in some places the history of the American civil war is completely obscured and like the sort of Facets about race or removed or slavery. You are minimized and it's like yeah you know one group was kind of doing their thing. And then there's a disagreement and Anyway let's move on. I think is what sorry I think it hurts so much to look at. Hey bad we've been in the pond that it's it hurts so you don't WanNa look at you WanNa Kinda glaze over but you gotta sit with it right well. Yeah I think in American history is all about sanitizing using how bad things we've done have been how poorly we've treated each other. How poorly we've treated other countries how we've completely decimated other cultures cultures other economies? It's just it's mostly about like like I bleach history. It's like let's just yeah. It's hard to I mean like it was until college. I was getting a real understood like understanding of American issue or no high school. I did have a really great teacher and it was like suggested a people's history of the United States. You manipulate God. What the fuck is going on? Yeah but most of the time. We're just taught like man America's so chill and everything we've done has been so great for for other people and well that's one question. I get a lot just before you move on you like this is basically a lot of people wanNA know what. What do people think of America outside America Eric Right and I think thank God? The branding is good is good. You Guys Linda Strong America because you know a lot of people see this. As a refuge for people from all different ethnic minorities now of course the problems but the reality is guys. America's it's not audits foreign policy it's three hundred and fifty million beautiful individual people walking the earth trying to do stuff the farm policy questionable. I think most people would agree on both sides. The yeah yeah and on both sides of the Hersher that's interesting to hear from somebody who lived through civil war in a calm like a violent conflict of kind of within the nation. They grew up in t to hear that. That's something that you're concerned about. Because that's that's something that when you talk to people who spend a lot of time in countries that are devolved into civil war. They said that like a lot of the signs are popping up in America and people in America like yeah but I mean it can't happen here and it might. It might not be what you're picturing mind but now it's it's it's it is shocking because it it was on it was like I. I wasn't directly affected by it but Iraq the country so much. We couldn't even call it what it was. which was you know and probably probably some sort of civil war? We called it. The troubles right the try and it was one hundred miles away. There's people you know bombs going off and all that hundred and fifty miles away and to me. It was another world world but it was in the subconscious. Wow when you're a kid you understand there's no reason for fighting in red first time you see war on TV. I remember cry- crying is I understood the depth of yeah and then over time you have to distance yourself from that emotion raise. It's too much. I didn't live true civil war just for the record. But but there was civil unrest in the north of Ireland Orlands and yeah it really permeated the culture and got into a lot of kids brains early on in Ireland so I think as a result of the the pain maybe the the people went through before in the previous generation. Now there's a better understanding of how we want to avoid that everywhere right right right. Yeah all right. We're GONNA take a quick break. We'll be right back in. The future is closer than you think. And it all starts in the palm of your Hand you may have heard the news. Five G. is coming but what does that really mean. How impact me in this new? My Heart series this time tomorrow presented by team about the business. Join me as well often and my first characterize as we will you through the true revolution immobility that will change the way we interact with the world around us from environmental science to law enforcement. Entertainment humint healthcare and travel innovation is coming. Join us as we explore. How this revolution could impact your life and here just just how close we are getting to a more connected future full of possibilities in the age of five G.? This time tomorrow presented by team about the business business is now available on the iheartradio APP or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. There's a study about which pick up lines work best for women that are hitting on men. Yeah and I for one am. I'm curious miles. Oh man the you know the people at In Halifax Canada yes Decided I didn't even realize realized this is a question of what pickup lines for men are the most effective they got hell effects up in Halifax. Wow take your radio. There's okay so the way they did. It apparently found that. There's they were testing three pickup. Line Styles House direct flippant and innocuous and what they did in this highly scientific study and I say this with a lot of is that they got one hundred thirty heterosexual males Two basis every single time. I was going to sound like a fucking like honestly the remnant it does this is this has a man said no so what they were ever said. No no exactly to any kind of Dan. I'm so it says they were asked to evaluate a series of twelve photographs of women accompanied by a pickup line and then so when they looked at it they asked the participants to rate the perceive attractiveness of the woman the perceived promiscuity of the woman and the perceived effectiveness of the pickup line. Really what they found was direct was the the most effective so an example direct pickup line and stuff. Like you WanNa have a drink together. You have really nice is number. You're cute all those in Interro. interro Larry smooth networks and stare at the period. But you gotta you gotTa stay ringling. It is because I got a coq. Yeah an example of flippant. Pick up lines. As shall we talk or continue flirting from a distance. Always see you here. You must be the bars best customer since you're a lot since you're alone and I'm alone. Why don't we sit together to that? MAKES ME WANT TO BE SING. I'm easy are you you. That was obviously. There's a control so that I think I think that is actually an example of scientists writing comedy being not not a successful way to these conversations and then sample size a hundred and thirty. They didn't exactly go in two zero zero. Oh yeah that's what I said it's the conversations of course. Yeah and then innocuous can you recommend a good drink. I've seen you before. Do you work here. I mean really what what they did. Find his direct where the most successful flippant was second most successful innocuous released likely to be judged as effective but they did say no matter the pickup line when they raided the attractiveness attractiveness. I didn't matter what they said. Yeah please I don't know thank you. We have a very visual creatures. Yeah Hey what do you ever you walking down. It's like it's hard not to look at some later. It is hard. It's like a woman for me is the most compelling thing no obviously want to write songs and Sonnets I mean that's what we do create and then we try and get on stage. We're trying to be funny and Hopefully find out why for their get like and then I guess it's the same the ups away. It's just a Yemen beauty. There's video is so so hard to ignore this. This idea that like. There's a need for this study. Like they're a women or I guess it just seems odd to me. It's not as no way our society. He is set up a sort of just like this patriarchy where the man pursues the woman and that sort of People are just inundated with a sort of messaging. I'm not it sounds the thing that like a lonely men would need this study. It's like hey direct is the best thing guys you know. Don't be all like hey. Did you see that fistfight outside decide. That was so wild. Like I don't know I think these two are fighting over dude anyway. Hi My name's miles literally some pickup artist type Shit. We're really yes. You talk rather than rather than pulling up direct like Joe. I think you're beautiful Ma. Have this drink with me. Inches from the FA- more about sort of being a little bit more obscure about sort of just a general conversation started by pointing to another event and then they go. Oh No I. I didn't see that and that's more organic than like anyway. What's up I'm lonely? I mean I'm miles. Do you ever notice as well when you WanNa talk when you really really really WanNa talk to somebody you know that this is the one something in your brain your brain literally sabotages you. Yeah you can't. Oh Yeah Speaker. Can't think you start opening all the doors. The fridge door every door evidence like an and the conversation just it just. It's like your jeans no that you are not supposed to mate with that but I yeah. You're not good enough. Fry your circuits. I I'm Horny your sabotage from the inside out your genetics. Don't want you the windy good enough. The second date I ever went on with my wife. She was like I kind of realized that you know I was in love with third but the second day it'd be really weird. I love you but she she still talks about it because she was like. Yeah there's that one day when you couldn't talk and you're all sweaty. Yes the worst thing you know when you know that they're assuming it did perceptive creatures on the planet yes let me start sweating. Are you sweating. No you're sweating and then it getting on me and it gets worse and worse and there's there's no way out right on the only thing I think you can do to kind of is a preemptive strike which is sites like before you go into an interview go for a run so your endorphins bench pressing something. So there's a little tests Estrin in there. I don't know maybe Stan wide-legged with your arms arms above your head is power then you walk in and go. Hey you live around here so yeah yeah also why. Why are you holding that chewing raw meat on your shoulder? Yeah my new shoulder pads you like the dribbling on their rabbis but do you like my relies on you flex and you Lick Alexa Vegan. Yeah but that is weird. How the universe keeps us in line? Isn't it oh yeah like. It's like it knows that you're hey you you feel so you know what I'm going to do. I'm literally going to make you deaf and mute and you're not going to be able to hear what you're saying and you're not going to be able to formulated in your brain and you know what what you're talking with a concussion. The whole thing stars in Liar. Yeah question for the audience gang. Does that does that happen on the other side you girls get that. Do they get the same feeling. I'm sure like anything. We're human right if we had something the possible threat of losing something right causes saying Zaidi or not to get the thing we want. I'm sure on some of the thing I'm more interested in this idea of being hit on because I've only been and maybe like a direct pickup line. I remember someone said that to me when I was. Dj Party in Highschool. Was this a girl. I was in high school is using parties. Comes up to your queue. What's what's your number really and I was like fucking I panicked? I was like I don't know phone away. And then I'll ask you'll give him my number so unconscious indirectly that she was so fried my insecure hormonal teen circuits. I just was unprepared and I just just sort of went into myself But again did that did that. Carry it for the week though because when I if I get a compliment like if somebody says something nice to me like that. I'm attracted I'm terrible. It'll keep me going for week dude. I'm running extra miles donate and more. I'm terrible with just as a personality. -ality if I'm ever GONNA come. I always mitigate right. And that's the thing. I'm trying to do less of because I think that sort of betrays my own ability to sort of see myself as being worthy of accomplishment psychological real quick let me get on my couch therapist Francis because you know I wanna feel like I am worthy of these compliment but inside. I don't WanNa feel like I'm flexing or something like that. I don't know if you had a great accrued nerve podcast about how guys you'll complement a guy's shirt shirt and that's all they'll wear for. That is so true that is true. Oh yes do you know. The power accomplishment has yet man you and also you know it can. It doesn't have to be even ally you know like we're talking as if it's a manipulation you can and literally say to something someone just a nice commonly. Hey you know what you you just. You're great personal really. Felt like we connected today too. I wish you the best that just that little serotonin hit that cortisol spike in the brain. Or whatever I don't know if they walked the planet a little better and then that trickles the little reverse tributaries into the world. Yeah like just because you said some nice person walks the earth telling people feel better all day Eh. Yeah go give a complement complement challenge do it but not to not to me. Because I suck don't know showers. Lucky smell terrible. Might be granny said the best advice is just say. Thank you and smile actually helped because it's so simple but it's it's like you don't think of it because you're just too much into panic to put that energy. Yeah Yeah Yeah that's true what's overrated overrated. All right. I don't WanNa be controversial or anything but okay. We have gone way too far with Oat milk. Are you fucking fucking kidding me. GonNa milk next wood chips here. We go just walking by my God arrive all all. This should taste like a broom closet. Mom I supposed to know from downward the rest of my day. When I'm drinking liquid broom closet Ed? Why did you not like oat milk has been one of the tastiest? Wants to come out so far thick and show everyone is all aboard the OATMEAL chain. The little chunks regular milk votes little chunks on the website is so thick thing I've ever had hat and wounded riding so hard for it in on like you're sick. It's turning. Milk is best milk in the land of Sake. I want everyone to be happy about you. I go back and forth between a regular milk and almond if you think too to heart if you actually think about regular milk at all. It's puget in discussing ideologically but All men I feel like joy actually like almond sender. Wasn't something a train myself to. That's for me. I understand because you think about the dairy process and what that looks like. That's why I only drink milk directly from the cows autres the only. That's the only way can guarantee freshness. Yeah I mean natural integrity to go through that day. Let us have been kicked out. A lot of petting zoos. The votes have been kicked a lot on the face terrible head injuries. Direct glows too much. Thought that was against the law. But who am I who watch porn on Google Google video player like what. Look if those two broke girls can keep a horse or whatever. I don't see why you can't keep a Akao way who you know that. Show Senate cable your incredible all right one percents that show true brokers as about a horse. There's a horse in it and also it's not able you guys. What are you dying? You thought it out the plane okay. Okay wait because one of the heiress or like wealthy person isn't I don't know a lot of it literally was a horse in it. So it's based on the simple life found a horse. I I said out loud when I was watching it on the plane or flipping through or whatever I was like. Hey there's a horse in it and the woman sitting next to me said said it's a it's a horse episode. She goes no the horses is always on the show. And that's she's like the horses a permanent fixture of the show and I was like I is in this New York. She could not explain you happen. been to be sitting next to two broke girls enthusiasts historian during the first time that you saw two dude have. Have you ever sat next to anyone that likes the Big Bang theory. That's all the people that fly on planes. That literally who you sit next to. Have you ever sat next to anybody. Nobody on a plane. That isn't watching one of those things when someone speaks to me on a plane. I am truly shocked. I am like what people have hobbies. Neighbourly Verizon chatted up on. Yeah people are like. She's ready to hear about my life I could. I used to get on planes and now I don't know what it is. I think I've never had a conversation. Your face ten years. Yeah I think so. I'm a person of color fucking ears. It works in favors right for you. Done on my Ah Ah but I liked I usually will give You know a close lipped smile that you're not playing like no like look. I'm I'm nice. Yes I want the best for you but I am also Gremlin and I'm just trying to exit my see and do not feed me when it's all right. We're going to take another quick break. We will be right back. Five G. is changing business. It will usher in a new era of connectivity that promises to revolutionize the way we worked but it's pointless if five G. doesn't reach the people and places that need it. The reality is that not. All five edgy is being created equal and your industry whether it's agriculture transportation energy retail. Or something else isn't limited to a dense urban in court T. Mobile for business has invested nearly thirty billion dollars to build the only nationwide five gene network T. mobile's five G. Network reaches farther than just high density neighborhoods. 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It's everything it's hint of dill. They've gotTa pick on buttered the Bun. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. They're trying to come after that chick-fil-a market and I need to know how bad or good it is. I mean so. They're going going to do this locally. I I'll be interested to see if it's one of those things like with Popeye's where they rolled out locally because they can't afford to make sandwich as good as it needs to be on a massive scale. Yeah I don't know I'm trying to remember the last time. McDonald's made something that was was new and I was like. Hey you know what I do. Remember such a weird like hardline stance at times that they always cave even on A. We've had this menu for fifty years will never have salads people. What's here's fifteen? SHAPE excelleage L. each iceberg in a plastic cup with with apples and when they put that salad on the menu they became America's largest purchaser of apples harvested salad basically created a doubled the apple industry industry. I'd love to see them meeting when the guy came in or I assume it's a guy the CEO of McDonald's comes in all right. We're doing complained long enough. We're going to make breakfast all the time. Sick of having people their entire youtube streams of comics just laying into the fact that we don't serve progress all day so we're doing it and and then everyone would cut our forefathers wanted us to save. Yeah and then they changed it more if there's like May Donald Constitution Institution originalist ripped it up. We're new and hip now an expansionist and no one cared people. There maybe a couple of tweets or like thinks are fucking. I started levitating when they brought him in all day. Great deal I felt like the one thing I eat phenomenal donald sides. I've ceased to eat like the daytime food there. I'll eat the fries. The front of the occasional dougie's chinky dougie's don't eat the burgers really unless I'm feeling really wacky high. But usually I'm just eating a bunch of sausage mcmuffin with egg. Yeah I don't think you're alone in that and then they doubled it up boy. Rip Miles arteries doubled up. What when you could put like two sausage patties? He's like oh a humid style stack right who they also are a billboard aboard. That showed that they're selling breakfast sandwiches with chicken on it now. That's the new thing with fried chicken chicken breasts Gosh it just feels feels a little wrong to put an egg on the chicken. Yeah we let's give chickens at little break. Yeah they and they even like drew attention to the fact that it was like gorgeous kit. Yeah it's like a chicken egg no egg and they but they the advertisement I saw for it was like. Here's a yoke of an idea idea or something like Oh this breakfast sandwiches. No yoke and it was like chicken without the egg but with the breakfast sandwich. Uh of bread. Part and Yeah the biscuit the biscuit often I've it's funny though griddle even though I'm like Oh that's cool. One of my favorite Japanese he's dishes is called dome. Budi and Oya means parent and call means childlike. Khanjian things so it's literally parent and Child Rice Bowl and and ooh that sounds like we have a dish. That's like fuck this whole family right. I WanNa make sure they came from the same blow. Exactly Oh let's get to the real important issue. The one that had Blair's mind working three hundred miles a minute But how Josh Brolin's out at at the end of last week there was a post of this woman who is like deemed metaphysical Megan. I'm sorry this made me so mad. Add in so many ways self-described Healer Teacher and Embodied Mermaid who had her post went viral. Because she was basically out here spreading her asshole out to the sun. This saying that we need to get sunlight. UV exposure into our UV radiation into are assholes. Brought the fucking Tau is send to it. She gets an ancient towel west practice. Yup Bitch you don't know what you're talking about. Yeah well again. It saying according to them it it could strengthen your organs increase creativity recipe. No Yeah Regulate Your Circadian Rhythms. I mean who wouldn't after reading that Shit maybe talk about crystals and shit like that. It's the same. Put Him on your asshole but no all of the things that they do for rhythms itself office not wrong. It's talking about it at all. That is wrong son. Your asshole like my the absolutely. Go off sleigh. Queen does not talk about it too. Even one person like live. You don't do it because you actually will get a horrible asshole. Burt Josh Brolin here hosted a picture. I think. Think of This woman's post and basically said try this SUNNING that I've been hearing about my suggestion is do not do it as long as I did. My pucker girl is crazy burned and I was going to spend the day shopping with my family. And instead I'm icing and using aloe and burn creams because of the severity of the paint. I don't know who the fuck out out of the stupid fuck you nonetheless seriously. Now I live is a sensitive part of my body that has never seen a thank one time in my life. Yeah I should probably just sit out there and cook it. I mean he must have his circadian rhythms and Libido must've been fucked if he was like I don't give give a fuck overturned but I'm ready to go but I'm ready to put a bunch of alum asked me lay some pipe. I don't know iron cream up my our. I'll try but but I think it only only maybe two minutes at most. I don't know if exposed asshole Santi this is how it starts. You try and I'm not saying it's going to be good. I'm just saying I need need a reason to send my house and I'll say it's because I'm doing an experiment these people my God posting about Sunning there asshole God God kids some shit even escalated from there. I don't know I feel Sunning your asshole I don't know how you get more like laughable. Why are people always listening sitting around them white bitches telling them what to do about really sensitive body? He has dreadlocks Joshua Tree and saying like Glenn Feigen Goop loop walk. I think Gwyneth has that thing where people don't realize that between genetics and a lot of money. Her life is the way it is because of that not because she was rubbing Robin Rasoul Crystal. No but she'd be like put some jade eggs in your pussy and then all the doctors are like no. She's like okay. Steam Your Pussy. They're like no okay. I'm just saying why are people out here being like you know who I should listen to fucking gynecologist. Yeah just just this random with no degrees shows yourself a mermaid invite all yourself mermaid. Sorry Valerie I dislike you Paul Frey Valerie Shit on instagram. So do you really embodied mermaid. I don't I don't follow any Mermaid uh-huh I do a lot of like healers and stuff if you call yourself a mermaid or like if you're a self-described like babe boss babe of out I try to hear ain't my instagram feed for all positively. Yeah so it's a lot of like therapist accounts dealers in like a stuff like that. I'm Arianna the way better for you to jog. Sophia Jesus Christ guys bring it up you can follow an account without touching the dog it. I'm pretty sure that's you can still get sick like boop. My nose is a dog account. Your smile was so big when I said counts announced their faces are right in the camera. Because you're like oh I saw that double tap on there. I am smiling really big. Okay all right. That's going to do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist please likened review the show. 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