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The City We Became
"Hi, I'm Ariel, baske- host of ride the omnibus today our conversation takes us in a number of different directions from the boroughs of New York City to diversity and inclusion and literature to the good bad binary of racism while there are some spoilers for the book ahead we hope you'll enjoy this conversation. I am joined by Alex. and. Brian. To talk about and K. Jemison the city we became. Engage Emerson is a sci Fi fantasy writer who has the distinction of winning the Hugo Award for best novel three years in a row for three novels in the broken earth trilogy starting in Two Thousand Sixteen. Additionally that achievement in two thousand sixteen made her the first African American to win best novel. She has just won the award this year for emergency skin. In the best novel let category she spends a lot of time talking about her debt Octavia. Butler another author that we are talking about on this podcast but I am so incredibly happy that we have an opportunity just to talk about n Que Jemison. So thank you guys so much for joining me. Today here safe to be there. We have two people who are pretty intimately familiar with different aspects of New York who are joining me on this podcast because I myself. have. Never lived in New York. I don't really know anyone who lives in New York particularly, well, other than a certain someone on this podcast. This particular story has five avatars who represent the different boroughs of New York City, and each of these avatars are supposed to kind of come together as a team of superheroes and there is a very specific way that each of them is represented and it's almost American gods style. Would you say yeah or I mean they? They actually do talk about them as city Gods Yeah. I don't know I feel like it's somewhat you need very unique and interesting concept it. It just took me aback a little to kind of see where it went in terms of how she chose to define each character of the individual brose. My mother is from New York City. She grew up in Queens and my mother-in-law is from. Long Island. And about half my family, my mother's side. So lives in New York. City my granddad on my mother's side after. Escaped fraud hundred came to. My Grandmother on my mother's side after escaping Austria grow up on the upper west side of Manhattan. But that's and then my dad a lived in New York City for a while working for for the MTA. But but then up until. I guess nine years, nine years ago that was the announced experience. I had the city to. moved to new. York City for a new neuroscience Manhattan for five years and then moved out to Brooklyn. So I have some experience with the city certain things ring true or done quite venture for me. Baby I have less less than peak backgrounds. Things that Jemison says in her her acknowledgements at the end is that she moved to New York in seven and that as a teenager she visited in the summer and that kind of Mir's something of my experience. We visited New York frequently when I was growing up, I spent a few weeks up there in the summer sometimes more and more than half of New York City residents. Weren't even born in New York states raise a lot of immigrants from other countries. There's a lot of transplants. States yet people most families living in. New York leave and I'm back I think New York. is a very fluid identity and. For instance, my neighborhood is traditionally an Italian neighborhood and it's now largely Chinese neighborhood. There's people of all backgrounds. Immigrants, lots of people from other parts of the city and I think that's fairly typical to very diverse city. I only thirty three percent whites while there's actually a lot of segregation. Which is kind of touched on by buck. There's also a lot of very next neighborhoods than it's becoming more and more mix. and. I think a lot of a lot of ways. What's being talked about as the enemy? Gentrification does not not as much the enemy as. Sort of an in a lot of people around Air Aleve. Where we're segregated neighborhoods becoming less segregated people are are living with other people more and I think that's a positive thing on happy to. Justify. Perhaps, unpopular. Opinion here but I think that a lot of that diversity makes it very difficult personified the bras because. The boroughs aren't what New York is made up. Of New York has made up of neighborhoods. And their neighborhoods in. Brooklyn that are more like other neighborhoods in the bronx or more like neighborhoods in Queens There's neighborhoods in Queens that are like Staten Island or or long island's since we start with Manhattan and this kind of our first entree into this book I mean we've Got South Paulo and Manhattan as the first character is that we meet all three of us. I'm sure have spent a lot of time in Manhattan I've definitely spent way more time in Manhattan than anywhere else in New York City but when you think of the way that he was portrayed in this book. In terms of choice of gender, race personality. Did you say, oh. Yeah that's Manhattan. I. Was a little unclear on his race and behavior changed a lot through the buck. said that he was black but. Earlier in the book has said that he was not really black maybe that ambiguity is on on purpose I dunno or maybe I was just not understanding so i. I think what happens is that the beginning of the Bookies Amnesia this kind of selective Amnesia where he doesn't know who he is and so. The only. Knowledge that he has a coup is what people see in him and he seems very racially ambiguous and as he goes to the book seems to develop sort of a sense of okay. No I'm definitely black. I, just happened to. In this is an experience I know from the from being black is they're depending on where you are. You may look a certain way so. If you're hanging out with your Hispanic friends, some people who are black or Hispanic like maybe he mentions Punjab. At one point where some people look at him in they see Oh, you know maybe you're part job part Chinese and it's just A. It's the. The blend of African features. A lot of African Americans have that Lynch, some of that ability and I think that. She's trying to sort of drive at. At deeper history of Manhattan you brought up the mass graves that were found in Manhattan, the history with a black people in Manhattan going back hundreds of years but for that type of story it is. It's an interesting choice for me this article Carpool Lot. When I think most of us, think of Manhattan we think of the way Hollywood portrays Manhattan so I'm thinking something along the lines of like Futurama, with a guy like a power suit with the White Collar in stripes and you know he's like some kind of business should instead We. Get this African American guy who's come to Manhattan for some purpose who lives with? Roommate who is trans and is he happened to be bisexual may be gay and Soro's the interesting next. Do you think that that captures the really rich actually black history of Manhattan? I. Mean Manhattan has been a culture all center in terms of African American culture. Especially Harlem. The Harlem Renaissance. Malcolm. X. He didn't he wasn't born. In Manhattan but came, he became Malcolm X. and Manhattan. Yeah. I. Think that's one of the like interesting parts of the book is that's not what you exactly think of people think Manhattan. But I felt like all of those. The tidbits that made his back story even with his Amnesia. shoehorned in there. Like at every turn lake, she was trying to trying to pack more of this background in there. 'cause I realize this because we may be a fairly educated audience in that respect like we may know those things people who were picking up this book in the airport may not, and so she may have to kind of go there but I felt like. At every turn she's trying to like. Shoehorn this deep amount of history knowledge that Made, the book like there's some really hard I rose from the like I'm reading the Section and Oh okay. We're shooters GONNA pack it in right now, and it kind of took away from the book. The boroughs are really complicated and it's not just a simple. There's there's a lot of history. I don't know the one thing that got me was when earlier in the story she was talking about an alleyway and WE'RE HAVING BEEN ALLEYWAY I thought she was making a joke about that. Hey, we don't have alleyways. I'm pretty sure. She later says that there's no alleyways, but there's an actual alleyway earlier on and I'm I've been all over Manhattan. I've biked all over the city I walked all over the city. I, think I've seen a Allie I. saw the same when she saw again. But I'm pretty sure it wasn't in midtown. So yeah. I definitely have never seen one in midtown. I've definitely traveled through midtown midtown Manhattan not so much and I think there are a few things that pulled me out here. Maybe it's because Jemison moved to the city around when I did and we haven't lived here. That long but one of the things about Manhattan that I thought was interesting that I did sort of make me think about Manhattan, was his possessiveness. Immediately, he tries to become the one that brings the group together he tries to leave is that's what people think of Europe as Manhattan. And so I thought that was sort of an interesting way to look at it but character would have probably been a better. Yeah I think she would have been enacted like. Feel like Brooklyn and Queens almost secondary characters in lake. Very Much Manhattan. Bronx. Staten Island kind of. have their stories more flushed out in our more present like. Brooklyn has all the resources essentially in the story, but they don't seem to be as real as other characters I thought that. The the. The becky are Karen or whatever that was was the Avatar of. The sort of. was was actually. Pretty good. I mean these these these people are real in real life and it is sort of A. It is sort of representative of culture clashes that can happen when when people live together but don't necessarily. Want to live together. But. I feel like it was. It was talking about people who have always been a part of the city as sort of invaders and people always move around the city and people always move in various places that doesn't make them invaders unless they are. Dismissive of the places that they're eleven and an scared of the people around them and. You know I mean. We just recently here in Beirut suite we had signs. Going up talking about Asian people as dirty and invaders and things like that, and it's like. This this neighborhood has has had a strong Asian presence. For decades and decades, we're considered one of the China one of three chinatowns in in. New? York City. And there are still like people here who are. Looking at others natives, but they're there's sort of a flip side bat where. If If somebody WHO's a white professional Moves to. A more like black or brown professional neighborhoods because they can afford it better that doesn't make them an invader it's what they do. that. That makes them a good member of the neighborhood or an invader. I feel. I don't know. Maybe, I'm speaking from a place of privilege here I don't know well, I mean the the example you brought up makes me think of some of the examples I've seen here in DC elephant Arlington just outside of DC and you know you would have like in some situations you like you said you'd have. White people who are gentrified as they move win, and then suddenly like the Asian people who were there already the newcomers, the ones from those people are dirty all of a sudden as the Asian suddenly haven't been there forever, and it's like, why don't you go back to? Asia, it is, and that's the attitude here in DC we had something that happened I. Think it was last summer where A. Newer buildings professionals had gone in and it was an area where there is a cell phone. So go on the street Gogo Music is very much DC thing. Love it or hate it and someone in that building called the owner, the main company of that Southam source. Hey, can you tell them to stop playing music? I don't like it. I don't want to hear that kind of music. And the that's reasonable if it's two in the morning but. The corporate head office called and told the guy who owned this like. franchise this like I duNno boost mobile whatever it was for decades. Hey, you can't play Google music anymore and he's been playing that for years right decades the reaction was swift like people turned on the streets they bought huge speakers they had like a Google Festival on that neighborhood or something like but. It was it was someone who came into the never was new. What we don't like that. We don't want that and it's you come in like you said some people everyone but they come in they ginger fi and then they say will I don't like the things that are here I? Want the things I'm familiar with and I think a Jemison does a very good job of demonstrating that. Through some of the other avatars of the women in white when you mentioned the part in ends, with Park with the women who tries to claim that he and his remainder. Doing something inappropriate. But later when South Allah shows. There's all these people they're and they're having their drinking wine and starbucks in there talking about Oh if like it's like the little. The little things that you hear that make roller is like there's something like Oh. If you WANNA, get authentic Dominican food, all you go here. As if they've discovered this new land that no one's ever been to somehow before. But people are there now that they've gotten there, it's it's arrived I thought that part came through. If sometimes Hokey I felt like the credit card thing. It made sense for Manhattan but also a little. But it worked And it works better than say some of the things that the Bronx did I I think we should move on to talking about MC free now. I think I think that would be a good transition point. as long as we're kind of talking about the different boroughs and how they've evolved she's the one who. Has specifically been talked about in the book in terms of her evolution from being a hip hop artist to then becoming this councilwoman in the Nice Studio and high heels one thing and this this. Applies to specifically to Brooklyn but. This is very much in Caja. Vision of New York. It's it's The New York that she grew up with its. MC free sort of like New York, I grew up with like my mom's from Queens. She's from Hollis Queens, and if you are familiar with the history of Herat run DMC, L. J., they're all from Hollis? Queens. She went to high school with some of these guys and the like. The image of New York she's invoking by talking about MC. Free is this sort of call back to like the work of the eighties. And nineties, but they're also a lot of rappers from from other boroughs like sure I mean hip hop was potentially born in the Bronx A lot of big hip hop artists are actually I can think of one big hit up artist from staten. Island. Would well, group Luton clan is from Staten Island. and. Of course, you have a lot from Brooklyn as well. so I don't know I. Including one of the. Including a Jewish. Rap gripped by the Beastie boys from from Brooklyn I believe. What I was reading this book like I re I was thinking to myself. Why didn't she just make all the boroughs rappers WanNa have been a good concept. And Staten Island could have been could have been like Rizza or something because this whole this whole book is this Netflix's like Bait. It's like she's crying out. Please give me a Netflix's special. Can Earth Someone, I think TBS. TNT bought the rights to broken earth to make that into a show that's GONNA take forever. You could turn this thing around overnight. This is like an easy win, and so I, was reading this book very cynically making this is totally going to be her. In K.. Jason's like Netflix special. Let me ask you this. Would it be a bad netflix special. As long as she doesn't right there at, it will be good because I felt like Brooklyn's rhymes were. Oh my gosh, they were so like. She's a sci Fi writer. either. You need a little help on the rhymes but like I thought the concept like the like when I imagined. Brooklyn's rat battle when she's fighting the. exes or whatever they were. was a good. I could visualize it. I felt like their rapping skills aside but I kept thinking to myself like where's like the Beastie boys and Wu Tang Like it'd be such a fine concepts or represent all the boroughs with rappers like that would have been hilarious. But. I. Also felt like Brooklyn just gets like. She's another example of you can't really represent such a large group of people with one person and again like she just strikes me as like this Anki Jim Experience of New York. This is what she's comfortable with and that's okay but it doesn't a capsule like he's like Hispanic Jews like from flatbush like. You know the park slope people like I was waiting for kind of parks slope Karen to show up like All those Canada thing which like a whole thing I've been I've been a community meetings in park slope and it's just a special special kind of people the the Brownstone Park Slope People. Yes. There for years our current. Our current mayor is granted a transplant. Very Brownstone Park slow like that is his whole thing. There's no hint brownstone park slope there and it's the same thing with Queens like a lot of the cops. In Queens. And they live on the far outer of Queens were single family homes and everybody drives everywhere, and that's a very. Like whitestone or something that's a very different queens from I. Don't know the immigrant up and comer image that she presents in which definitely exists. Yeah. But there's also the you know white privilege that exists there too is space. So one of the problems I have with how she does representations like I said, I keep thinking. This is how she sees New York and she's trying to push a conversation is is that like? It really excludes. White people from the conversation altogether, which I thought was odd. Like because it doesn't do it in A. Positive way there's no ally like I did specific. You had a problem with all of these representations for out of five will five six being people of color thought that was great. But I, felt like there was no. Ally in the unintended or maybe intended consequences that essentially. White Person. Shows. The book is, is Evil Say Okay I'm going to defend her. You're actually gonNA defend her because like as you said, this is her view of New York and maybe that's for lived experience like a lot of times a lot of times. The the white population of New York. Sort of clusters and the white neighborhoods doesn't even interact. With. The more diverse. New. York. And maybe even guilty of that even though I'm living in a diverse neighborhood and like going all over the city and you know involved in in various advocacy towns. But when a lot of a lot of a group doesn't interact and then a lot of people who do interact are the worst of that group Maybe. That's the way it is. You know and and that's clearly not the whole story because like if you look at, for instance, the be protests, not the leaders, but a large proportion of people have testing are white. So there's plenty of allies. There's there's plenty of people who are happy to sit down for a meal with people from different backgrounds and hear their stories. But there's also those people who who used calling the police as a weapon against eero of color and. Who have no respect, the neighborhoods that they're an and who recognize their their whiteness. And weapon tears like the Karen in the park and you know one thing I thought was missing was is that The I felt like there should have been a character who was white Either wasn't ally or a misguided ally they feed. But really they're. They're just playing into electric track felt like that was like an avenue that. That was missing because I? mean. You don't somebody who's or somebody who's like not necessarily a good guy but been living there forever like our neighborhood we have like a large Italian population, which is frankly kind of racist. But they've been there. Or? Fifty years you know they're not an invader. No. You know. I I guess for me like when I was reading too is like it made me like the Italians. Made me think of Hollywood's New York you know like you think you think about the cab drivers as flick it about it and the Godfather which no longer thing like your cab drivers is named likely. Muhammed, right. But that but that in itself twos like Hollywood's Caterpillar on that. But like when I think of like New York of the eighties. It's like serotypes by the Talibans. Jewish Delis like you mentioned something. Maybe Chinatown. Like I was really surprised. One of the advertisers wasn't. Wasn't China or something or like a at you wish American princess from Long Island or something didn't jump into the mix, but it's not a it's not a cartoon sous like she's trying to like have a conversation about about your bill like you said earlier Brian. There's so many different groups in New, York and everyone sort of has like their experiences of new. York, in like what sounds familiar to them in what residents with them, and this is what resonates with her and I respect that. But having a large family is in New York in being someone who's taken out of Pop Culture House, kind of wondering where those touchstones for people or or what a queens or the Bronx aren't aren't the robber. Why Queens Bronx but can we talk about the Bronx though because? Long. Okay Okay let's hear it about the Bronx families in the Bronx but so. I get. So the Bronx for certified as a older native American woman. Who is I guess a lesbian. Who looks ethically ambiguous right passes for lots of different ethnicities at different times soon as many as many of us do. But I guess. For me in the this is where I feel guilty is this by the time we're getting introduced to to the Bronx. We've met New York who is a A Gay Black Man. We've met. Manhattan who was possibly a biracial gay black man or maybe just a gay man and now we the we the Bronx and now we have. A almost seventy year old native American lesbian artists. Many. As, felt like we hit Kinda try sector there. May Be too much of a mirror of the author not a mirror of the authors just at this point like. It's like all these characters like if you were going to write up sheet nick character sheets like some role playing game and you're going to allot points. She's got so many points sacked in the bronx that it's almost not believable anymore. The Bronx at. The part where the bronx like begins to connect with her power, she doesn't do. Native American dance I pretty much about loss. Because I was just like, okay wait a second. You've tied this woman, she's a which is one of the major tribes but like how many people actually are not pay in the Bronx right well but the her connections to the area comes from her historical roots like her people left in New York, area tears once. Oklahoma. Got It. So she has this like very like a longstanding cultural ties to the area that dates back before you know the city and so she she can claim that but I felt like. We get representation about native Americans and. Like I can't speak for North Americans like I'm like one percent of American if that, it becomes the catchall thing in a very tricky thing to talk about a write about because Oh, she reaches back to like her her roots in her spirituality, the dance and become one with the Earth Catholic cliche overload for me at this point. It would have been better as written book. where she actually found people from different boroughs as from different backgrounds, sort of like stories of the boroughs. Yeah and would have like the general creative direction, but it could ride in way towards where they're coming from because I do think like she's she's working at a disadvantage here trying to represent people who are completely different from her well I. Think in general everyone who is a writer has to write about experiences that are not their own and less their own gonNA write memoir for the rest of their lives. But when you're trying to when you're trying to make a representation of a group of people. It's hard when you're not that group of people I think that. I mean, it would have been interesting concept to write it with different people from different boroughs in backgrounds but I mean I'm happy that she's tried to write people from different experiences like like, for instance. As a black Prince Alwaleed Sifi, I get really fed up when I see someone and that kind of goes to the sad puppies argument sort of when someone's Orion to go but. I don't feel comfortable writing about characters of colors. I don't know their experience and I'm just like human beings if you're writing in the distant future. Who the fuck cares what caller the character is, but you know I get tired of reading about. A ton of white people I wanNA feel like we're so president in the future, the authors have have A. Certain responsibility to talk to people from that background and get them to review the buck and make sure. That, they're not too far off. For the Bronx I think you're right. You have a responsibility to sort of try to speak. To truth or I think she didn't research I just felt like that was a stretch as well. Okay. You found a Unicorn. Granted all these people have to be essentially unicorns right later they're special but when you get to the How the Bronx is portrayed and her background her attitude is right like that like the Bronx. When you get to her in that book and already. We've already dealt with Manhattan's roommate. Trans and. The Minis British. And Trans and speaks like a chavis or something like. That that partly out. But that like when you to this care snapped believe ability lake is I certainly okay. Wait a minute. What are we doing here to the? Bronx and like now she's going to dance because she's got this innate connection with the Earth because she's native American I'm just Kinda like come on a yeah. I feel a smidgen salted somehow when the old artists come in to her gallery this group of obviously all right people protesting the whole concept of diversity et Cetera. It was very clear that engage MSN was sending up a sad puppies. You already reference there and just to explain to people who may not be aware the sad puppies were actually an unsuccessful outright anti diversity voting campaign that. Intended to influence the outcome of the Hugo awards it was actually started by Larry Korea in two thousand thirteen who wanted to nominate his own novel and suggested slates that would benefit him and other white male authors as much as possible The irony is that to this day n K. jemison actually credits the sad puppies flitting the vote to give her first Hugo Award in two thousand sixteen for the first of the broken earth trilogy. But when you look at the characterization of everybody, it seems like she deliberately wrote this book to Piss off this ad puppies. That's such a bad thing grow. I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying when Alex is saying that she went you know on the character sheets I mean, it really is literally step-by-step. Every individual diverse trait that would piss off one of the members of that group somebody has in this book to be clear I really liked seeing I thought that scene was great. I I don't know I I liked that I thought. It was a really good representation of the alright and I thought bet. I like the outright part I think. That the alright part absolutely worked I'm just saying that when I got to that part, it made me rethink the characterizations a little bit but I I did think her send-up of the sad puppies as these outright artistes artistes. Yeah. Only they're only good piece was the one written by the intergalactic or inter dimensional invader invader right? Right. which I kind of enjoyed I think it's good that she was able to Kinda get that jab at them and I enjoyed that part but I just felt like at some point. Interesting reading and I think you make a good point I was reading emphasising. Okay. Like wait a minute almost every character. In this book now is a member of what we jokingly call him my house, the Burger King Kids Club. In the Burger King Kids Club is a thing from the nineties where they had like all. Their diverse there's like you know back in the day when you want to have diversity on the show, you had a minority character and then there was that character that was in a wheelchair as always like. Whatever? You get someone who embodies three or four characteristics like you've checked the box and you could move on because you hey, hey, diversity and she packs the whole story full of like the Burger King Kids Club diversity kid which is like you beg your point maybe she did it to to take them off as a reader discount. Okay. Wait a second. Let's just like it snapped me out of. My reading I got to the Bronx House like. It's hard to do justice to every characteristic guess if if you're if you're talking all the characteristics but the odd thing about the bronx is that like she's not exactly she she she identifies in her later years as a lesbian got a deceased ex husband. She's got a kid not the obviously lesbians have terrain, but it was interesting seeing evolution in her past like, Hey, you know like. I did get married in. We both decided that actually we were gay. We had a kid together and I am I'm a bunch dyke in it was interesting journey sort of like with Manhattan shoehorned in there it would have been nice to have that lake time to explore the background without quite. So rush 'cause like I came away feeling like wait a minute said, this character is a lesbian if she's showing up at the stonewall riots. She's probably been alleged. Venus. Long Time Yeah. She you know she had this whole veneer of at least marrying someone else than going through the motions and sounds like seems like a very complex character. That we're not doing exact justice to because we're rushing to it that you feel the villain was done wrong in that but too much pressure on the story and force. Forced the story to rush as opposed to actually flushing out the actors. I think I don't think the villain was done wrong. I. Think that. We sort to really delve into the backgrounds of some characters and then not other ones. For the sake of the story, but a lot happens and she does a lot more telling. Than showing like everyone has these like, yeah. These these like reverie moments were like, Oh, a non-member, all these things that make my personality but we're not showing that personality who I mean. We sort of do the Bronx Manhattan Brooklyn but like inside island but we don't really it. It's a lot more. It's being described and I felt like that sort of. A weakness in the book because they sound like characters. And Maybe, it could have been arranged differently to get that background especially with the way that. Everyone moccasins they're also diverse, but it was just kind of like at some point as I did the math on wait. For. Out of six. Of the AVATARS are are lgbtq. Okay that's an interesting way. Think New York is New York is definitely an interesting place. Historically lots of people who were. LGBT would New York to find themselves in freedom side get that sort of interested in this seat perspective written about. The perspective of people of Color. And how it's dealt with in their stories and it it just seems so crammed in there. But I liked some of it. You know. Yeah. Yeah and it's hard to quit calibrate exactly what you. Like about the portrayals in some sense when there's so much that's. In. Terms of what she's trying to do, and there are just aspects that don't quite. Work for you, but you want to recognize the whole is being greater than the sum of its parts in some sense what I thought was a lot of good parts. Is this the I don't know if it makes quite complete whole okay. I like the parts like and I was like I want more of these parts but how does this work in the whole picture but he? The woman in white the monster, Lake that was an interesting creature. Brian you would ask like if I thought it was done. Badly, I thought it was good. But the thing I didn't like is that we're leaving on lovecraft here. and. That she has to Greta her way to say, well, this is like a artists this crafty end bullshit or hey, this is a love crafty monster or you could write about it like that like shortcut. Yup. Well. I also thought that it was her crying to say clearly that this particular writer that a lot of people in the sci-fi Sean Raya like to venerate is someone that. Should not be venerated and morally gate keep in a way while at the same time not being particularly descriptive. I mean, the thing about lovecraft is like he was obviously a virulent racist and homophobic person even by the standards of his time. But. He also made recognizable contributions. To the art of literature and You can't, necessarily. That but there. I mean that doesn't invalidate. The Art as long as you're aware that it comes from a place of xena phobia. Fear. which is other thing that HBO series lovecraft country is going to be getting into. 'em curious to see how that turns out I am too and you know, I think it's interesting to see that repositioned with lovecraft stories from a black perspective. But It is interesting how she calls out lovecraft. In particular. Here I think the big themes are fear of the other and fear of the self right. And I feel like those should also be themes when you're talking about a city. Bad things that may happen in your neighborhood, fear of of invaders from other neighborhoods moving in and making your neighborhood level. I don't know whether that was really. That was. That was narrowly, Mason. was set an island is interesting. But is it is it actually representative of Staten Island because Staten Island is more I think more diverse than. that. Representation I think it's absolutely more diverse. It's just that n que jemison was trying to portray someone. Out of these avatars as being white and maybe potentially somewhat relatable and yet wrong. How relatable she was. You know you. You think when you first meet her that you might have some sympathy for her somewhat just because of her circumstances and then I don't know I feel like I've met his. Manner I know I've met her. Whether she stabbed mild. She certainly some people on Staten Island's yeah but she. Some people on every borough. Yeah. She some people in my area of Brooklyn Yeah She's she's lots of people in Manhattan the right now, the the upper west side is freaking out about homeless people being housed in hotels how it's destroying. Yeah but more now because because the city is trying to. Relieve pressure on on on homeless shelters where social distancing is is impossible because they're horrible places. Putting these people have been hotels like humans or something. There's there's a certain like subset of New York host reading. Upper West siders were freaking out about like it's going to destroy the neighborhood. Their kids aren't safe. There is the they're all child molesters and they're all drug use and they're gonNA, they're going to attack me whatever that's that's very much. Staten Island character right but they're on the upper west side they're not on Staten Island. They've never they've probably never been to Staten Island. But there are those people in Staten Island to Oh. Yeah. Definitely. And who definitely do of Manhattan. Is that godless place across the yeah and and when I think about. Like a the police. Benevolent Association. He. I think of their members as her dad I thought her dad was interesting as. It was sort of like for me. I was running the daycare and I thought like the someone like this really still exists in the twenty first century. Know they do but it's Interesting to see it in your just thinking like, wow, this is like a cartoon racists. I know they exist I met them. But as a set of like it's it was interesting choice and the fact that he controls her life. So is that art where she says with her mom and her mom's thoughts about how you got into juilliard on schedule. Guidon abortion than decided. Oh well, you know I felt guilty. Not that blew my mind as like no one says that come looking for you and said Hey. You did get a scholarship juilliard come on. We'll take care of this. That's not how Juilliard Brooks but okay. Julia it's like hogwarts of music. But I I had a hard time buying these things happen I. Know they do and the like her father was able to so completely control her life. She's still somehow managed to be so ignorant and I I know those people, but it was interesting. How. Narrow minded she was in the story compared to the other avatars and they immediately come together. But they also don't think about her until I. Yeah. She's Nassar. Thought. Yeah. There was there was a there was an element of truth of Bud. The horrible murmurings from from the the the woman in white trying to Darren Staten Island or side and am I the only one who had the sense that after her mom told her the whole anecdote about juilliard. that. There was this thought that maybe she could actually turn out to be as sympathetic character and actually change and perhaps after realizing how horrible her father's choices for her have been all along that she would go along and joined with the other avatars as happy family. was going to happen. Yeah. When I read that part I thought. Okay. So she's heard her mom story she's going to have the courage. So they can on that ferry and go to Manhattan and find them. And Yeah I was I was sort of. It was a while before less That's not that I happened. She's just going to say. And from them, which is very an odd choice actually I I liked that choice. I'll be very honest with you because I. think that took a lot of bravery Unin cage Emerson's. Part. To make it clear that characters that you may feel some sympathy with and who you may think might be on a positive trajectory cannot overcome their upbringing and cannot overcome the prejudice that has been hammered into them for thirty years to suddenly change enough to actually be brave and make. A risky decision that actually. Would further them. I mean that's a good. That's a good decision for storytelling. I. Think it's also important as a distinction to make when you think about people who are white allies. I think what? Her point is when she wrote this book. She was going for kind of the same thing Jordan Peele was going for and get out. She deliberately didn't want there to be any positive representations of white people per se. Is that a good choice in basically an advocacy piece. Well. That's the question but I want to kind of have you guys answer me this? Would you consider it a better piece if she had chosen to join in and just reverse you know thirty years of inculcation of racism and anti immigrant propaganda. been a bit more hopeful at the end of maybe she was one and just take steps. Towards like if the book ended with her taking steps towards joining, them are recognizing some of the things but it's it's like she's neck represented that choice. If she never really seems to get that opportunity to either. About. The other avatars or venture of York, she seems to like double on her giving the point. At Yeah I. think that very well could be the point that she that she is decided to double down and like you said like keeper. Her ignorance, it could have been the opportunity for her to overcome her fear. But maybe like you said, the point is is that it's not that easy. You. Don't just like maybe she needs more to take the step. Lake I can tell you all sorts of stories from high school. I. Went to a predominantly white high school in stupid things people said to me then I can only hope they don't believe now twenty years later but that's why I thought I thought people were changing of until. Well up until. partway through the Obama Administration, when people were still Going out and clearly only because he was black right and then I further. I further lost my my my faith in other people around the when when trump got elected and the things things around that I mean. May- maybe people were being overly hopeful about. Discrimination and. Racism and. Things like that in the US was this thinking that like you know? One premium where people voted for Hillary. So that gives me some hope for the future and but only three more million, all I. mean. I Hillary herself was such a polarizing character. Or? So many people dislike your and for sure like people come out of the woodworks, they feel empowered to show their dislike and hate but. Mostly, more people are going wait. This isn't okay. And this is wrong and that that's what I I mean I feel like I have to keep a hope that we're going to move away from that. I don't know if we will. I think that there's a lot of Americans who at least want to be better but there's at least at least a third of Americans who are probably horribly racist there. Okay. at the very least with horrible racism they're okay with disenfranchising people hating on the poorer. Looking at all people who aren't them as the same you know, can I address one thing here though which is that we're kind of talking about racism is a good bad binary. When it's not really that racism as a whole is a construct that was used to support the privilege of middle and upper income white people. And we talk about it in terms of this good bad by an area like no, you're a horrible racist because you yell out slurs and you discriminate and. Very, clear-cut waves and so forth. But there are people who are very good people and very well intentioned who can also be racist to and I think those are the people who? But I don't I don't do racism or racial racial bias that way. I mean I view. Racial bias as something that is unfortunately. Baked into. The Human Brain where people? Favor their in group and this don't don't you other s right but. But but I mean I mean the racial bias, the system of racism. Is Crop that because because one race was in power and was Basically. Other races there ends and didn't see other races as people. But the whole the the racial bias are I think? To some degree. A biological thing that people need to be aware of overcome. And and he consciously reject I agree. But that's not my point but it's part of the book I think it is part of the book for sure. But racism is also a part of the book which is to say that even when. Island is not completely one hundred percent under the thumb of the Karen Monster or her father et Cetera. She still has racism inherent in terms of everything that she's grown up with in terms of her systems, etc.. It's rain and it's all very it's the other. It's the marginalisation whether she says something outright or not. And unfortunately you know in. Our country right now, we have a lot of polarization, but the problem is that. Both ends of the spectrum are uttering in each other so much that we're constantly using this good bad binary model of racism to call the other side racist when in fact there's A lot of space in the middle, and there are a lot of people on the liberal and a lot of people on the conservative side who are racist and some of them are trying to do something about it and confront their own privilege and change the status quo But there are also people who are not working. Toward actually changing their privilege, but but I think the book actually touches on because that's my point there. There's there's extensively liberal people. From other boroughs island who are being horribly racist. And but. When when you even see that horribly racists like that again makes it sound like a good bad binary, but it's definitely a bad thing to do. Even. If you do good things when you're racist, it's doing a bad them. Right I mean. Just. Having treating people. Badly because of what they are. Instead of who they are is I think inherently. Babb. Agreed by. This Feel free. I'm I'm here to absolve you of all your. No No. You don't have to do that Alex. please don't do that. I can't do that. But you guys have good points but I, think. What. She's not showing is ability to. For Salad to grow and I like USA as you talk about it more maybe it is a conscious decision that she's doing that because historically in literature and pop culture, usually there is like for care tribute be reasonable when it comes to racism are healthy receive other people usually that grain where they can sort of see the error of their ways but if she can't see that yet and how can she grow? And I for me I just assumed that happens in book two or something like that. But. It's just for me. It comes back to her father just has her. So on his thumb that she just never he mazdas where she goes I. Wish you know who she interacts with who she works with, and that reminds me very much of like situations that I've heard about where you have people who grew up in households where they saw people who weren't white as inferior and they talk about this, you know their. Parents didn't let them play with you know who weren't white and they kept them away from other people. They decided that they could only go to certain schools because it's almost as if they knew their parents knew that if they ever were exposed to more people that they would eventually change their mind, you know I the other people were not inferior that there has to be more to the story they should the best. And I think. It's I. Think for the Way Staten Island is written. I don't think we need a little bit more to sort of flesh it out because. Like you said like stat now is fairly diverse so she would have had to gone to like what like an all white Catholic school. And then the College of Staten Island. I don't think it's all white I find it very hard that she could existed in all white space, this whole time and not been exposed to other people. This is like. An extraordinary effort on her doubts part if that's the case. That thinking sort of high made me think like I said I've met people like that. People who asked you as you're scared like you know you need a kid like, for example. Is your skin dirty or anything like Oh. Okay. Hold on a second I use your weight. Have you have? You never seen a black person before you figure it out? But I just kinda wonder like really has she somehow managed to exist on Staten Island but I think there's also a thing where. And I think it's part of the character where some people. They need to feel like somebody else's inferior sit or not. The bottom. You know we may have problems but we're trying like. It's not. It's not like the the the the godless people in Manhattan and Brooklyn Right. I, think maybe there was a neglect of the centrality of those problems. Like the whole thing is I'm not doing great and my communities not doing great and. and. Economically were having trouble. It must be because of those inferior people. From US and where we're not at the bottom, because the those other people are inferior right? And I'm not. I. I know I feel like a big part of the whole Staten Island dynamic with like at a that I've read about the other boroughs that were written by Staten Islanders and things like that. Is An inferiority complex you know. And it definitely touched on it like while they're not gonNA come for you. They don't they don't care that you exist. Right so we haven't talked about Queen set all. Yeah. I had some issues with the representation of Queens, but I don't know if anyone else did my biggest concern was this idea of taking the South Asian students, immigrants representing the up incoming immigrants within the neighborhood but then specifically making her good at math I'm sorry that really she's me off I. Like every character this book is like that late. Eighties. So Oh, cringe about was the one that pushed you over like I said like as. As it's. Like that well, because that occurs before Bronx, does her dance. That that was the one that pushed me over I. So like Queen's got shortchange, totally got short change. She has no personality really just Kinda mousy but like. She doesn't have a ton of personality she seems like more of a secondary or church to Jersey City had more personality. It's true. The, biggest borough in right. The most proudly diversity of it's just such. A. Diverse borough of Queens is so big. Maybe it's hard to. Hard to personify I duNNo. I thought that. Like I. Didn't mind so much that she was. An immigrant is i. think that of the six avatars, she's the only one that is an immigrant, right right? Right. Wishes sort of odd because you know New York has so many immigrants but I thought it was interesting like you said like. The math was like okay really. Yeah. As it's every cancer is like that but it's I, think you're right that in some ways she's trying to create this diverse group of characters as sort of like a like a thumb up their nose like the sat puppies it's great. But then she always ads like this one characteristic that takes it into like the cliche territory really at but like hit some some cliche land. Especially because like Queens doesn't get much characterization. And she'll uses her math almost everyone uses their powers like what like wants essentially an ver the bronx the bronx right gets to be a a bad ass in multiple ways. So feel like there could have been potential. To the whole math then. If they'd had her shoes I mean she there's clear ways she could have done a lot more with it. But. That never happened. So And it never became related to her personality really all it was just sort of. Characteristic tweens an immigrant she's living there. You know she is not clear. She came over as a college student tour. You know to go to work or issue immigration earlier because I think. One thing that would have been interesting aspects to talk about is the issue be she'd come over. As a younger kid living with her aunt and uncle and aunt, she was there to Lake Cram and get into one of those highly prized New York high schools that you have to test into. That would have made her more part of the New York Story. And that's been a whole thing lately by the way. I know follow education stuff. And she could have talked about voluntary versus involuntary minorities in the history of New York and. You know it. That could have been very interesting conversation to have had she gone there. So I I agree with you Alex I think that's a good point. When I I read that description I? Okay. Like I wonder she's one of these kids who came your family invests all this money getting tutored and to get you through this exams can get into like when these top your Ixelles. Then your set the ideas you get into like allergy want you're you're good to go and I was wondering if that was going to be something she some but I also know that it you don't feel education news and things like that that that might not be much you as an average. An average reader I. Don't know I feel like it would mean something to you as a New Yorker, because not only has. The regents and the specialized high schools and things like that. Not only has been all over the news in like all of the newspapers but. At least in my neighborhood, there's been posters up everywhere about. The racism of ending. Testing based admissions to these to these specialized schools, and then I'm sure and other places. There's. There's There's posters up about the racism of. On testing where where it's difficult to get tutoring to to to do well on the tests and like it's been, it's been a lightning rod. And in the city. And, I, I, feel like for New York based thing it might have been. An interesting thing to to integrate. But I, think it's also wider the new. York. So a wider audience of readership would still get it really resonate here. It would certainly resonate here but it would also resonate I think with a lot of places across the country that have charter schools and magnet schools that are specifically set up with admissions face testing. and. Additionally, I just want to give a quick shout to another podcast. The Nice white parents podcast with just had an episode on the topic of Charter schools and how these admissions practices are gate keeping to keep out students of color and so forth, and that could have been an interesting conversation too. I, think the Education Department of resonated because here like no, we have sort of the same thing, the Psalmist Jefferson High School, and you know people start people have their kids in tutoring serving like in second. Third Grade. And they they tutor their kids for five six years with the idea that they're going to like get into. Thomas. Jefferson. High School or and I knew the same can't be fun as a kid that. As a kid you know everyone comes all the articles to talk about back to like the culturally. South Asians and East Asians are very much like, hey, this is a sacrifice that you make to succeed. We expected of you even best in you and the argument is always been on the other side like you said like another neighborhood where the post will say, Hey, those yes sir those history says is because other people can't afford to get that tutoring or you can get access to the to maybe you could afford it. But like you said some `gate-keeping happening where like the tutoring classes are happening in Korean and English so no, you can't go and I think that would've been interesting thing to delve into shout Queens who she's so thin. But I mean. You have so much space in a book and that could be a whole. A whole Scifi novel on. An of itself can I almost went to the groups that come across the group of people who are like worrying Potential avatars like just didn't make it like like from from Brooklyn One avatars, east new. York and one one Avatar is is park. Slope. Or like I said with the rat battle, I kept wondering they're to be some kind of other. Whereas the Beastie Boys Avatar lies like you said, it's just so hard to think like one. One type of person to represent such millions of people, millions of very diverse people. When I wonder whether we want too much from this book though it's a really hard thing to do. Let's Aitken Jemison I feel like. We all want you to write like the best thing ever see. I. Probably want to much coming out I read broken earth like I thought they were great and asked, okay this is going to be amazing right and south to say that it's a bad book per se is that. Like, I might let. Are To be fair like in the forward she says, this is the first book of this type that she's ever written and that she had difficulty with with writing a book about a place where she lives and. I feel like there are some honesty there. You know I think that's natural that you would have a lot of difficulties specifically writing about a place where you live and I think she is deliberately trying to incorporate as many cultural experiences is can pack into this book and I think that unfortunately makes it very difficult for her to do enough authentic research than to invest all of those characters swift, quite the portrayals that you would want and. That's unfortunate. But at the same time I really enjoyed the villainy. Of this book, I mean I really enjoy the metaphor of the alien inter dimensional race that's that's going to make the city. So listen gentrify New York City within the universe itself and time stratosphere and I I think that having everything playing out in terms of the Karen trope on a galactic level is kind of a very interesting. Place to go with a SCI FI novel that I've never seen before. So I enjoyed that. Quite a lot. I thought it was a fun but like. All my gripe. Aside actually thought it was a very a fun book to read. I'm not quite finished with the buck saw there have been a couple of spoiler, but I've enjoyed it so far. I do think that sometimes. The commentary becomes a little bit heavy and there should be showing not. Telling. But it definitely has really good bones and and I actually like the characters. I. Thought that they were while while constructed despite maybe having too much. I mean, but you can't really have too much diversity. Is this that I mean like too much try trying to make the characters beach much. That's what I mean like the end up themselves like they're like these like. Full Cups Day diversity like sexually. cutlet ethnically that part I always felt like, okay. Wow. You're pushing a lot but it's it's good. This representation being there is good. This is sort of. How how much do you need and? How how is it handled I? Think that was really more for me is how it's handled in house portrayed I mean it can come up more. Organically you don't, you don't need to be at the characters explaining it themselves. You can just have you have situations that expose things about characters, right? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly and I think we're all in agreement that we wish there Ben more back story about these characters that actually made it more organic. It's a process to reveal who they were. In these diverse ways like maybe it would have been good to have. Brooklyn we we don't know that she's rapper until she gets into the rap battle. And it turns out that she grew up. That that that when she was younger, she was rapper famous rapper right apparently like everyone just recognizes her the. Oh Hey. You'RE MC free cell. Yeah I guess. I'm not sure by because like people the way that people look and sound changes a lot over time. So if you were like a rapper years and years and years ago when you're very young and you haven't wraps since. Like people really gonNA recognize you and if they did they elect you councilwoman no, I definitely think they would like. Okay. Yeah One of the people I thought of like. I was trying to figure out like who her? Inspiration for free was and the first person I thought it was like Queen Latifah. Or maybe MC light I, don't know I just think M C A. I wonder if this NC leads from Brooklyn. I don't believe from your to. But I I was thinking what is she talked about MCI and then I went and googled MC light she's not in politics or anything like that. But that was my first thought like, Oh, she this is probably some kind of MC late call back because MC light had some. Some lyrics yeah. Back in the day that were like you know. That went there count on the way that? The Bronx Schools out NC free and says, Hey, you know you said these things and. Say that. Mc Lights lyrics were, but she had some explicit lyrics. Yeah. And I mean. Paving the way for I guess Cardi B. and all those people in. I really enjoyed all the probably fake outrage about about w APO LAP or whatever. Song I've. I've really enjoyed the outrage. I thought the song was okay. But the is just excellent. Yeah. So later on the book when They're. They're trying to get to somewhere I. Guess they're driving I think they were trying to staten. Island. Under driving around and there's all starbucks and I kept thinking like in this whole like city construct a starbucks New York is a foreign thing that should I guess is Corny as it is rightly sap the city of its power but I almost wanted to be some line about how every time the starbucks starbucks in New York or somewhere else in the world Seattle get stronger. It's like 'cause that's specifically Seattle thing. It is across the world and I thought there should be like the snow. Lay Line that provides Seattle with power everywhere every like that idea do we think that there's going to be a city we became to or how we know there oh? Yeah. This is part of the city is trilogy. So. Is it going to be other other cities or is it going to be in I? Actually was not aware of this is going to be other cities or is it going to be a New Yorker? Dono. And trusting, in the meantime when thank you both so much for having a chat about this book and. I just love we come at it from so many different angles and that you guys were able to provide. So, much insight about the boroughs of New York City because I think that's an essential thing to. Get the full flavor of this book. So thank you so much. Thank you for joining us on ride the omnibus we can be found on facebook instagram and twitter as at omnibus ride. If you liked the episode, take a minute to review us on I tunes or Pod Chaser it means the world to us because it brings us to the world. Thank you.
Sunday Night LIVE w/ Billy Cunningham 8/23/20
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In other words it's August. We're going to follow that story over the next several hours including next Sunday night. Did you happen to watch the interview tonight which ABC News like inside edition question, Joe Biden and vice president to be a person of color that being Comma Harris about what they would do in the conflicts. Those of us who are normal cannot look toward the mainstream media to provide cogen answers to difficult questions from those they favour David Muir was bad Robin Roberts was worse asking questions such as. Senator? Kamala. Harris, how much pride do you have been selected as the first woman of color on a major ticket and vice president? Joe. Biden. What were the criteria you established a pick Comma Harris and what is your favorite tree? That was the essence of one hour. The one piece of news that came out was that if Joe Biden is elected president God forbid he's GonNa shut down the country again and again, and again if doctors tell them to do so Dr Falcons said, don't do that. But nonetheless, if he gets advice from Dr at some point to shut down the country which feeds into the socialist notion, we're here to take care of you as the government you're going to be able to stay at home to socially distant for the foreseeable future there close all your businesses as if enough an enclosed are ready to close the schools including the Catholic schools, the colleges and universities. To. Shutdown Church and synagogue and other services any religious or Including those in California are fighting the orders of Gavin Newsom to stop meeting groups larger than ten, and also to stop all sports activities including the SEC the and the ACC, and also may I say the National Football League and college basketball all shutdown stop going out in public and stay home like a mushroom fed crap in the dark. That's what Joe Biden wants that ought to be the takeaway from tonight's ABC story about what Joe Biden do if elected he wasn't pressed. There was no video clips being used very marginally to go back in time to talk about the change in policy positions of Joe Biden, and I would ask the question. About curtailing free speech and Curtailing the freedom to petition government to address grievances. Over. The loss of freedoms, etc.. If you spend any time watching that debate and or the DNC Monday Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday I came up with the idea who's been in charge of the country and the blue states and a lot of the government for the past fifty years. Well, that'd be the Democratic Party in fact, Joe Biden was elected in Nineteen, seventy two. So we're close to a half a century of Joe. Biden being in charge of chunks of American national policy especially under Barack Hussein Obama, and by the way if Obama had succeeded in in office Hillary Clinton right now would be completing her first term of office, God forbid but the these Democrats Act as if these horrible things are occurring in the streets and Crime and immigration and healthcare and jobs and taxes, and Ansi Pelosi and Obama and Biden. With any of it. Basically, for the last twelve years, Democrats have controlled the presidency eight of those twelve years two thirds of the time the Democrats have been in charge Nancy. Pelosi was in charge along with all the Democrats the first two years of Obama's term, and she's been now in charge of the House of Representatives for several years. The Democrats are in charge of policies that they complain about and the Great States New York California Ellen, Oi New Jersey, how about Massachusetts Pennsylvania, Michigan Louisiana Connecticut, Maryland, they're all controlled by the Democratic Party. Is there a major American city and the top twenty controlled by the Republican Party Hell No. Not One. So the cities are not functioning. If the cities are in riotous conditions, if the public schools can't and do not work if there's no respect for law enforcement and no job creation and medical care is in trouble in those major cities. which political parties in charge is the WHIG party is the constitutional law. Party is the delivered -Tarian Party is at the Republican Party. No it'd be the democratic. Party and so all these things are wrong in the country according to the Democratic National Convention that was not held. Shall we say in? Wisconsin? The whole thing was trump is bad. Biden is good and you're all racist. Most of us, ourselves as not oppressed and not the oppressor. Most Americans. Get up every day go to work or school they love their husband loved their wife love their children and try to make things better in the world. One of the great things said to me by Wiseman was this Bill Cunningham. If ever in your life, you have a chance. To improve the lives of others and failed take that opportunity then you have failed life. And so most Americans the great majority, ninety, five percent of us or more one and live our lives well, and peace and love and interest and a worthwhile life and pass on to the next generation. A better country than our parents gave us ninety five percent of US feel that way. and. So when you spend four days ripping on America tearing down the flag and the institutions allowing burning the American flag and rioting and looting and arson in the major cities, and then you come on television and complained about the status of the country that you've ruled that is somewhat rich. How can Joe Biden? WHO's been in powerful political positions for more than fifty years complaining about the Status of America and all of us being racist either were oppressed or the oppressors when neither apply whatsoever other things missing of course, and the Democratic National Convention Monday Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday was any mention of the Russian hysteria or the fifteen minute telephone call with the leader of the Ukraine that resulted in the president's impeachment nor was the riots in the major cities controlled by them discuss whatsoever. Why did they forget about the impeachment? Why didn't forget about the Russian collusion delusion because Brennan was interviewed by by Durham for eight hours is that the reason is because it doesn't play well anymore because they failed did they talk about the lawbreakers? What if you lived in Portland or Seattle or Los Angeles a completely failed city and failed state? What do you live on the south side of Chicago or? In Baltimore or in Massachusetts Connecticut New Jersey what did you lived in New Jersey under Murphy and there's no business being opened. The schools are not opening complete utter chaos in fact in New Jersey, looking at my chart tonight, there's sixteen thousand, forty, nine deaths, which is one hundred, eighty per one, hundred, thousand, one, eighty per one, hundred, thousand deaths in New Jersey to cove. And the State of Florida and the general population. It's twenty four out of one, hundred, thousand, one, hundred, eighty. But the media focuses on Florida Texas and Arizona and Ohio my home state where the infection rates are going down. Hospitalizations are going down. Fatalities are going down giving Governor Murphy in New Jersey in Cuomo in new. York Pass. What socialistic city is now working in this country controlled by the Democrat Party the answer is non when I look at the U haul trailers they're leaving the blue states for the red states like Tennessee Florida and Georgia leaving for Texas mainly and maybe even a little bit New Mexico and California's emptying out into Nevada. That's what happening. That's the reality, and so how's it possible that the Democrats could have all that free airtime and never mentioned the thing that most concerns the American people which are the riots and looting tonight I guess Portland's number eighty, two nights in. A row of looting and rioting complete insurrection nothing to do with Black Lives Matter Inc everything to do with insurrection rebellion and arson but the Democratic Party I guess what did not mention that one time to me it's a good sign that eighty percent according to Razz mustn't eighty percent of black voters those registered to vote overwhelmingly disagree with defunding police and so tonight on his ABC interview believe it or not Biden said trump is the one who wants to fund police I'm thinking David Muir sat there and listened to that interview and didn't respond with the cuts of those. Children stroking the leg of Joe Biden when he was in a lifeguard and assuming pool and all the other malapropisms of Joe Biden, he could've played them for fifteen or twenty minutes and said Vice President. Biden you up to becoming the next president when you don't know what state you're in what your policies are only a softball interview by David Muir and Robin Roberts could it be asked of a Republican the way that happened with Joe? Biden and Co Kamala Harris tonight. It was amazing. How about this according to Rasmusen Eighty three percent of Americans support trump in HUD secretary. Doctor Ben Carson's ending of Obama's program designed to fill the suburbs with high density, low income housing bringing crime and drugs to neighborhoods of suburban MOMS and DADS. Twenty five percent of those lives in live in the suburbs are minorities and they don't want it either and the great majority of poor people in America are white. Put that on a balance somewhere in your hometown to see if section eight housing needs to go into the suburbs and live next to you eighty-three percent say, no. But the Joe Biden platform calls for a greatly increased section eight housing the suburbs incredible. The major cities are fleeing rioting and looting at a warp speed ask a suburban realtor what's going on if your inner around Austin Texas, which is the San Francisco of the lone star state if you're in Tennessee or Louisville. Kentucky Cincinnati or Detroit or Chicago or Tampa s what's happening and the major urban areas of every major city controlled by the Democrat Party? WHO's moving in and WHO's moving out it is incredible seventy two percent of likely voters are concerned about the growing violent protests nationwide sixty, two percent say it will affect their vote now, which party does that help seventy two percent of voters say likely voters the. And democratically controlled cities will affect their vote in sixty two percent say that it will calls them to support those. Those who support the police and think about guns and ammunition because it would happen the mccloskey's in Saint Louis. I. Think they're GONNA they're gonNA give presentation either Monday or Tuesday night and Charlotte that every gun in every bowl has been brought up and the Democratic Party, once it becomes obvious, they might win there won't be a gun or am left anywhere in the country. CNN's latest poll shows a twenty one point shift away from Biden among non white. Non White voters. After he terrorists, I said non white voters tonight she was introduced by Robin Roberts as the first. Asian American. To be on a major ticket as a person of color first, asian-american. Finally, the Democratic convention they pulled out the big guns, Michelle and Barack Obama Bill and Hillary Clinton Joe Biden and more and including Comma Harris, and that caused trump's approval rating to go up if I'm the trumpster I, want the Democrats speak more please but mark my words. Biden. Will do everything in his power not to debate the trumpster on September the twenty ninth simply he's not going to happen. Unless continue, want to get your reaction to what happened maybe with the with the softball interviews with ABC news tonight no questions no going back in time. No one held accountable Comma Harris was selected by liberal groups as to the left of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. How much political space is to the left Bernie Sanders Kamala Harris occupies it according to the liberal groups. So let's continue. Tonight is first time caller. If, you're a first time caller and Taylor. Knows everybody first time caller is only eight, six, six, six, four, seven, seven, three, three, seven plus later on somewhere in Long Island about midnight about two and a half hours to call Sean Hannity my friend Sean Hannity. Fox News has book outlive free or die also later on doctor Gerald Lameiro who steals trends and things of that character. He's GonNa make allowed prediction tonight how many electoral votes will trump win? How many Senate seats will change to the Democratic Party or the Republican Party and also how many House seats will flip and you'll be neck speaker will his name be McCarthy or Pelosi? What. Right thinking American would want to say I, WANNA. Move to downtown Baltimore and live. Caters married with a couple of kids I WANNA move to the south side of Chicago that's where I WANNA be. No. No better yet. HOW ABOUT PORTLAND? If that's not available at about Los Angeles or Seattle that's where I wanna be about Austin that's funding police in Texas I don't believe it. Let's continue with your calls. Tonight is first time caller night number to call is eight, six, six, six, four, seven, seven, three, three, seven coming up later Sean Hannity Bill Cunningham. The Great. American. With you every Sunday night. To not hosted by the legendary Steve Summer starting at one seven am on news radio seven. Hundred W. W. It sounds. Economic Education. From Eight. Resulting from covert nineteenth on front page of the paper. It's ten it also rooting for trump's failure for a biden success. If Joe Biden Circa Twenty ten, the guy that debated Paul Ryan was running this year against the trumpster. Donald trump may have difficulty but with this candidates a binary choice either socialism or capitalism, it's either loading or law and order it's either defending the police or defending the police big difference I wanted to defend cops and the Democratic Party across America, wants to. To Fund police officers including the terrible incident. Louisiana, and Lafayette Louisiana with with a career criminal with a knife was shot. Sadly, look at it this way no matter how to get your calls coming up later Sean Hannity my buddy guy every day in America. There's literally tens of millions of contacts between law enforcement and the American people tens of millions per day over a period of time there's billions of context billions of context. and. So if you can look around and find one or two or three, or four, or ten, or fifteen or twenty out of billions that fits your diatribe and fit your prejudice, it's on front street man it defines the whole situation. It is always dangerous to take a singular circumstance and use that generically to define the behavior of persons not connected to the singular circumstance. The more we find out about what happens in many. Cases our opinions changer slightly adjusted. It happens all the time in life. So I don't know what happened Louisiana I'm not sure what happened with George Floyd. Some of the second and third video seems to indicate that George Floyd who was killed by officer Chalvin in Minneapolis had difficulty breathing well, before he was arrested in fact, he announced I can't breathe also the talks ecology indicated he had three times the dose of felt known system. To, kill himself which would cause foaming at the mouth and difficulty breathing especially if you have covert nineteen which storage floyd head so I think Calvin did terrible wrongful things that night but his out murder or is out manslaughter manslaughter means you engage in a negligent act calls the death of another The chalvin engage in a negligent act that caused the death of another. It's arguable. I watch on CNN the other night one of the attorneys for the cops is saying he would have died anyway I don't know what would have happened but I'm a fair American I. Want to see what the facts are. The facts apply to the law now can you get a fair trial anywhere in Minneapolis or Minnesota I doubt it many of the jurors are going to be thinking look if I find him not guilty there's going to be more riots Hell, I think if trump wins the election on November third or fourth, there's likely to be more riots because that's the way the left roles here and around the world which country what city what nation what state has socialism worked over the next forty, fifty, sixty years. The answer would be very few if any doesn't work done work in Chicago, Lori lightfoot has no clue what she's doing this at work in Austin Texas does it work in Baltimore John Does it work in Baltimore? Working Los End, it doesn't work anywhere. So why do we take the party in charge of the failed aspects of American society? And put them in charge of the whole country. Put them in charge of your suburbs. Why do that? We can't won't now the TRUMPSTER is not perfect. Doesn't end the communication skills and friendliness of Ronald. Wilson Reagan. But that's the choice. Continue the prosperity and the defending cop attitude and holding China accountable policies of trump or to concede America those in charge of. Ago Austin San Francisco and New York is that what you want? Let's continue with more bill. Cunningham. The Great American with you. Every Sunday night. Join me tomorrow about one. Oh, six, my schedule guesses, Brian Tone of crossroads, and while the reds won a game on newsradio seven, hundred W. At Tropical smoothie cafe. You to get away every day unwind with their watermelon mojo and new Guava Margarita smoothies pair one with their delicious new barbecue pork case idea for a mini summer vacation. This summer tropical smoothie cafe is bursting with flavor made to order with fresh quality rock ingredients with sixty Washington, DC area locations. 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There's about ten times more children have died of the seasonal flu than of died of Covid nineteen. Did you know that does the media tell you that ten times more children? Have died of the seasonal flu than covert says the media tell you about eight times more children? Drowned this year as opposed to covert nineteen, we train all the swimming pools ponds I don't want any child to die please don't sound being cold hearted. That's not the case at all I'm just saying that whatever we're doing our life whether we drive a car smoke or not smoke a cigarette take prescription drugs eat ice cream have a nice steak. Have some French. Fries whether we exercise were. Not how we live our lives whether we fly in airplanes whether we skydive whether we go spelunker and the Great Caves of Tennessee and Kentucky everything we do in our life has risk I'm watching sixty minutes tonight and supposedly within a year or two, there might be two or three, hundred, thousand truck drivers out of work I pray to God not I love truckers their patriotic God fearing their hardworking. What they do is incredible and so these companies, Google and all the rest going to come up with a way of having these large trucks, etc. that operate on the super slabs without any person being involved that would be a very sad day for me I love the American trucker, but there's risks involved in everything. There's no acceptable level of death. Is there it's acceptable. In reality when a general plans a war and the issue of fatalities and come up, that's always part of the equation. So here, Joe Biden say tonight with David Muir if saves one life, we gotta do it while Joe. If it saves five, hundred, thousand lives should tobacco growing cultivation and use be banned. Joe If it saves four, hundred, thousand lives should all sugar all popsicles, all candies, all ice creams, all stakes, all fried chicken be banned. That would save tens of thousands of live show. Shall we also have governors on cars and trucks that go no more than ten miles an hour you can't drive it more than ten joe that would save fifty thousand lives it. Is. So ridiculous. These claims that I'm hearing I want nobody to die of anything at any point well, under listen to this factoid well, under less than one tenth of one percent of Americans. Die Cova under one tenth of one percent and the great majority of them are a nursing homes and that doesn't mean that those in nursing homes should die. We don't care. That's not the case at all but covert nineteen is not the black debt. Bonnie play good is not diptheria. It is not the Spanish flu it's not the Hong Kong. Flu is not for. German. Flu is not the Asian flu we're going to get through this. Okay but the next three or four months. We're going to have better therapies and we're going to have a vaccine the first quarter of next year and every year we're going to have to maybe have a vaccine much like I take the flu shot I'd do it all I exercise a little bit. I've run marathons I try to eat watch my waistline I walk almost every night and I don't smoke cigarettes I don't use illegal drugs and I try to watch what I eat my diet now am I gonNa die in the next twenty years very likely. And I'll face my maker and hopefully at the end of my day, my friends and family can say because he existed. We let a little bit of a better life. Otherwise, we would have led I, hope I can do that. But the idea that Joe Biden says if it saves one life, everyone's got to wear a mask everyone that's not the way this country's built if that's the standard none of us live in bubble wrap and never leave our closets if that's the style I'm GonNa live my life ever I wanna fly. I WANNA drive every now and then I swim every now and then I do other stuff knowing there's a risk involved every time I drive on I seventy five I'm thinking am I taking my life in my hands maybe a little bit fifty, thousand Americans die every year but I have a belt I have airbags I'm driving a Chevy traverse from Joseph Chevrolet Jochen Chevrolet, dot com I drive those vehicles and a little bit safer things happen but this is not the existential threat to humanity that the media wants it to be to get trump out of office. That's my point every life is precious no amount of death is acceptable. Everything we do has a risk reward. And the media thinks it can drive this bus right through the trump presidency, which is what they thought about the Russian collusion delusion what they thought about the Ukraine, and now it's all about mailboxes, which is a fraud and a farce. But nonetheless, that doesn't matter. The media will listen to the Democratic Party. And assume what they're hearing from Democrats is truthful and whether listen to trump or the Republicans they assume what they're hearing. Is Not truthful. And they go from that premise and that's the way it works. Let's take some calls in and lastly mail in ballots. And absentee ballots, I voted absentee for many years and absentee ballot means I request from my board of elections to send me a ballot. I requested a form in an affidavit with identifiers. They send me back a ballot. I, spend a day or two and I cast my ballot by knowing what I'm doing I put an envelope and send it back to the board of elections. That is an absentee ballot. It is not a mail in ballot. It is not a ballot where like in the state of Ohio. The Secretary State is going to mail out to eight thousand OHIOANS and application to fill out to send back. That is different than the state of, for example of California. That's GonNa mail out twenty million ballots a great chunk of of which will be two individuals that don't request him. Don't aren't alive auto vote. The stories told about large nursing homes and care centers were there hundred, two, hundred, three, hundred ballots sent? And then someone picks up the ballots, fills them out and sends them back, and if someone gives them doing nursing home recipient and they vote the wrong way that ballot never gets sent that's the way it works. We've had numerous examples in this country or the Democratic Party has stolen elections May I remind you of nineteen sixty when Richard Nixon was fighting it out with John F. Kennedy, and that's the Mayor of Chicago Richard Daley Richard the, the old man Richard I think j daily. would. Not Allow Cook County results to be posted until every county in Illinois had already posted their results he knew how many ballots to falsify to elect Kennedy to the presidency. It's a democratic trick employees. It's happened for decades and the idea Democrats don't know what I'm talking about is as a farce and southern Texas when landslide LBJ did not have enough ballots to win suddenly a couple thousand appeared and he won his first elective office and the rest is history Johnson guaranteed Kennedy that Texas would vote for Kennedy and if not enough people voted, he said graveyards always vote. Democrats cheat constantly in elections in Orange County and the last election ever. Republican. was winning until the ballot voting was done. Then every Democrat one in every Republican lost and the media frequently say there's no evidence of voter fraud and they read the books to know what happened with Maloney and district Congressional district in New York back in June it happens all the time elections are thrown out because of voter fraud every vote should count every legitimate vote should count but when you put it in the marketplace millions of ballots. By, the voter that is a recipe for massive fraud and the Democratic Party knows all about massive fraud believe me. Let's continue. Thousand millions are listening. Let's go to Robert and the Great State of Florida. Robert in Florida the home of governor, to Santa's Robert Welcome to the Bill Cunningham show and Robert How are you? I'm pretty good. I'm. Not, normally a political person until things get really weird like they did in the Vietnam era or like they did a little bit in the. Iraq war with the false vacation and I kinda smell that coming. But this appears to be far worse than either one and I think you're making a tremendous amount of good points extremely good points which could and should be and need to be talking points for the trump campaign. And Robert I have Hannity Hannity has a direct pipeline of the president as. An I'm going to give him three or four ideas. Monday. Tuesday and Wednesday to hit on the issues describe clearly what is an absentee ballot and what is a mail in ballot they're completely different. You can't put in the marketplace tens of millions of ballots. Sent out to addresses were half the people are dead. That is ripe for fraud and absentee ballot requested by real life voter with a signature, an affidavit identifying information that is not what the Democrats want. In fact, the Secretary State of Washington, the state of Washington said it took five years for us to perfect the absentee mail in ballot system five years. Now, the Democrats want it done within the next five weeks which means they'll be millions of illegitimate ballots cast, of course for Joe Biden and we cannot have that because that. Would change the course of history. In fact Abraham Lincoln was elected largely by absentee ballots of union soldiers. It is common if you're in the military to have a ballot sent to you from your local board of elections and they know who that soldier is and get it back and the Democrats always fight to make sure not to count the ballots of soldiers, sailors, and Marines Republicans fight to do it but but Robert it's important in this election not to allow the Democrats to steal another presidential election which they have done repeatedly. Well I think that the mail in ballots can can't they be done more like absentee ballots more there's more proof or no? No the campaign let's say they're sectors dating Sacramento California. Searchers states going to send out to every so-called voter and actual ballot and the ballot can be filled out by anyone and sent back. There's no identifiers. You're a registered voter. Let's say Robert Dot say you live in in Naples Florida and you're on the ballot as Robert Smith in Naples Florida on Fifth Avenue and they the Secretary State in this circumstance would simply mail to you the ballot itself without. You requesting it now sadly, that is different than you requesting about it. In fact, you have to sign the ballot under penalty of perjury that you're eligible voter yet to give your social security number or your driver's license number. Then they checked with state systems whether Robert Smith and Naples Florida is that person then they mail you the actual ballot that is not the same as flooding system with balanced. By anybody. Listen. It can be done that way and that's kind of how they did. The stimulus is if you recall now weird thing happened to me with the voting, but I don't want to stay on this too long. But I think you have a handle on that and but when I wanna say is I was actually offered a pre fill ballot sure as a text message on my phone and I'm like what the heck. Is that and then they said, oh, we'll never mind this was all the text I have on my phone it they were GonNa fill the send me a democratic pre ballot apparently, it happens all the time all the time this is going on listen what's going on now is going on in about four different fronts and you've touched on all of them and I want the trump campaign to be using things like you wear of socialist. In Democrats clothing Robert Robert Robert also I'll say this to you and the state of Florida right now Tallahassee there's one point five million ballots have been sent out requested by voters one point five, million of the one point five, million, one, point one, million, our democratic ballots and four hundred thousand are Republican. So the trumpster may begin voting November third with minus seven hundred thousand votes in Florida, and he's only only one to state last time by about one hundred, ten, thousand votes. The same effort, there must be a certain a safe and fair election in which human beings who are alive eligible to vote actually vote on that ballot not filled out by somebody else. On continue, take short break when we do we have calls from. Texas and North Carolina and Michigan and thousands of others if lying ever becomes available, which never does eight, six, six, six, four, seven, seven, three, three, seven, of course. Tonight is first time caller night later on about an hour. So we'll be my good friend and your Sean Hannity somewhere in Long Island. And that deep bunker next to mark Levin. My good friend also later on doctor Gerald Lameiro to talk about the polling prognostications and modeling and why he believes trump's going to win the presidency by a wider margin than he wanted in two thousand sixteen. In fact, a Newt Gingrich was on one of the Sunday shows this morning talking about how the Mayor of Chicago wants her family to be safe but good luck to the rest of the city's what the newts to set by that. I mean she's putting armed guards on her street to keep anyone from coming to her house armed Chicago police officers. She said, I have to remain safe but if you live in the city of Chicago good, luck, this is GonNa be about four thousand people shot this year in the city of. CHICAGO. Under Lori lightfoot. How can you take that philosophy of liberalism and progressivism and put it in the White House with Joe Biden because he's an empty vessel now Kamala, Harris a person of color or poor in every liberal idea if you're to the left politically of Elizabeth Warren and Bernie. Sanders that person with those viewpoints should not be in the Oval Office, let's continue with more bill. Cunningham the great American with you. Every. Sunday night. Join the Great Steve Somers at one Oh seven am this morning on newsradio seven, hundred WWL W. You know I would look with interest in Houston police chief are dowse of Vado, is hiring officers laid off by defunding police departments around America told Fox and friends weekend on Sunday that we're hiring the looking to hire four hundred more cops in around. Houston, he made the comments amid a growing push across the country to defined. Or dismantled police departments, following George Floyd's unfortunate death. He when you see when you see that it's challenging to actually go out and take good folks to join police her today if good offers off good officers WANNA come to. Houston they want to serve this great city we are hiring chief outside. Of Houston Texas quote we have four hundred positions. Thanks to our mayor and council looking forward to finding more good people. Austin. How does Austin survive with the liberal progressivism? Austin. Texas voted unanimously unanimously to cut one hundred, fifty million dollars from its police department budget. That's thirty four percent of the total. That is ridiculous. And now so Vado said if you're a funded COP, if you have three years of scored service and a good service record, you WANNA come to Houston said of the six month academy it's going to be ten weeks after that will put you in the field as long as you have Houston, values sounds good to me the failing part are the city's worth saving in this country Is it worth saving the way? It's now constituted. Baltimore. Cargo New York San Francisco Los Angeles Portland Seattle Saint Louis is worth saving the city's or is the emptying out process underway I read on Fox News about five hundred and some thousand New Yorkers have left New York in the past five months, which equals the population growth over the last twenty, five years the boarding up the. Great Centers of commerce the lack of concern for public safety, the drug use the open nudity, the drunkenness, the derelict's homeless all over all over Central Park and upper west side upper east side midtown downtown is on. President. Even worse than the days of David Dinkins who was the worst mayor now you gotTa Little Socialist Communist. Let's be honest. They're communist running places like Austin, Texas and new. York. City are the city's worth saving many are saying? No, the cities are not worth saving. They're going to empty out. Let's continue with your calls in about one hour. So the Great Sean Hannity will be here, talk about his book live free or die and later on as. As Dr Jerry Lameiro who's a prognosticator he had right about four years ago with the trumpster. Get. His new productions, what's going to happen and I'm going to have them come on with me the Sunday before the election, which is what November I guess will be that Sunday night line becomes available first time caller night is eight, six, six, four, seven, seven, three, three, seven stay with me all night Bill Cunningham the great. American. With you. Every Sunday night. Willing. To you by choice hotels econolodge Roadway Inn hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels Dot Com. Now here's the man who's been recognized as radio's best the recipient of not one but two Christina's Marconi awards for his broadcast. The one and only. Bill Cunningham. Billy Cunningham. The Great American of course, the Republican convention goods underway. Monday. Tuesday Wednesday, and Thursday came out about twenty minutes ago that White House. Counselor Kellyanne Conway announced Sunday night she'll be leaving her post at the end of the month what in about a week George Conway said he was withdrawing her husband from the Lincoln project to both citing a need to focus on their kids. Quote Kellyanne Conway quota will be transitioning transitioning from the White House at the end of the month. Georgia's also making changes. Quote we did Tropical smoothie cafe they want you to get away every day unwind with their watermelon masahito and new guava Margarita smoothies pair one with their delicious new barbecue pork. For many summer vacation, this summer tropical smoothie cafe is bursting with flavor made to order with fresh quality rocket ingredients with sixty Washington DC area locations. It's never been easier to ride the wave of flavor order ahead online for carry out said, pick up or delivery at participating locations. 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She will speak in a couple of nights of the Republican National Convention and unclear what to do in the future George Conway her idiotic husband tweeted minutes earlier that he was withdrawing from the Lincoln project to work on family matters. So we wish Kellyanne Conway well, and I also would point out that. There's a posting tonight about what happened with the interviews on. ABC with. Handled by Robin, Roberts and it was a terrible interview softball interviews. Mirror did not ask any questions. He wouldn't have done this to any other Republican candidate but with Joe Biden he did not put the cheese on the cracker at all with Joe Biden. Oldham to account at some point he's got to be interviewed by legitimate journalist and those are not David Muir and Robin Roberts as questions like. How does it feel to be the first person of color to be on a major presidential slash vice presidential ticket or always the criteria that you use to select Comma Harris they did a Vignette of Kamala Harris coming up from the bottom and Oakland her father is from Jamaica. Mother is from India, showdown defied as a as an Asian American. But now she wants to be an islander American from Jamaica. At the age of ten grew up mainly in Canada. So she's every woman and she's the most liberal member of Congress according to ranking organizations. She's to the left of Bernie Sanders and think about this. We have thousands on old I gotta get to I know what will go to Larry in Carl will be I, I love Texas and Florida but. When it comes to Malian the balance things character would we've discussed that but I look at it this way. There's not much political room to the left of Bernie Sanders. But she was selected as the most liberal member of the Senate by a rating agency run by liberals, and so in February march and April, you might recall the James Carville had a meltdown. Why are we selecting socialist? We can't select a socialist it as political suicide. And so now we have the policies of Bernie Sanders with the person of Kamla Harris. Who was more palatable? They think then the policies of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. But she is not more palatable most like other Democratic candidates when we get to know her if they're forced to campaign well, find out she used to the left a Bernie Sanders as determined by liberal rating agencies there's no room out there she believes in. Trashing, and getting rid of all private insurance companies Medicare Medicaid for all. She also believes an open borders shell. So believes those who execute police officers in California should not face the death penalty she believed in a guaranteed income she believes in cancelling student loan debt she believes in you in Texas and Florida. Paying the bills of those, New, York New Jersey and California Illinois, and Maryland who can't live within their means. That's what she believes. You think David Muir. Tonight would have held her to account for those positions. Absolutely not it was like an inside edition interview, Robin Roberts and David Muir both embarrassed themselves tonight. It was awful. Now, they did at the day after I. Guess they did at Friday and. Two or three days ago. But nonetheless, you gotta run the clips of Joe, Biden and the disparity in positions he's taken over the years. You have to ask Comma Harris questions about how in the world can we pay for Medicare for all and trashing all the medical insurance companies you gotta be kidding me. You have to kind of indicate we've got twenty million or more illegals in this country. In fact, tighter, you have those cuts ready to go I love him, David, Muir analyst Joe Biden to explain some of this and how this made sense hit. And by the way you know I, sit understand. And it get hot. I got I got Harry legs that turn. Turn. Blonde in the sun and the kids used to come up reaching the pool and rub my leg down so. Watch the hair co- come back up again. They look at it. So I learned about Roach's I. learned about kids jumping on my lap. and. I love kids jumping on my lap. Mental Caucus. No, you haven't your line dog face pony shoulder you said you were, but you're now you gotta be honest I'm going to be honest with you. We. All created by go you know. You. You gotta come. See us when you come to new. York, BP Biden. Well, it's a long way until November we got more questions you've got more questions I. If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for mayor Traum and you ain't black the my record man I extended the voting rex twenty, five years I have a record that is second to none the N. double ACP endorsed me every time I've run the were. I mean, come on, take a look at the record. You know me I, get overwhelming support from the black leadership young and old. Every poll shows me way ahead and black people save critical life in the primaries this year they have things they want from you and one of them is a black woman running mate stayed in say that is that I'm not acknowledging anybody who is being considered but I guarantee there are multiple black. Women being considered we've seen it more clearly now in in a black majority county six times more likely to die in the pandemic than white counter. There are disproportionately uninsured the african-american disproportionately make up the central jobs and that they can't do it home risking their lives every day enough's enough. You know one of the racial epithets used about toward black children this out there roaches. So that kind of flew by quickly can you imagine? If a Republican referred to black children as roaches who would rub his leg, the roaches would rub my leg and my hair would turn blonde in the sun. He couldn't even get out I could not imagine the reaction and that's the Joe Biden that David Muir of ABC News did not bring to you, and for those the point I'm making this come September first September eighth after Labor Day guess what there's going to be an a real effort to educate the American people about who Joe Biden is in what he has been. He's been in office almost half a century. So if he complains about the racist qualities and characterizations of the American people and the government can do more why why? In the heck didn't do it? Barack Hussein Obama was president. He was vice president for sixty seven percent of the last twelve years. So for all oppressed and oppressors and racist was did they do in office to correct? So the running against themselves in a sense I, think America's naturally a beautiful wonderful place. It is not as described by Joe, Biden and the DNC and hopefully beginning tomorrow night the president will make that point but you can't call black kid roaches and get away with it out does Joe Biden get away with this? Let's continue. Now we have Larry. I in Florida then Carl and Texas and Karen in North Carolina David in Ohio and many others and Larry in Florida. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham show and Larry how are you? Hey. Great thank my call. Appreciate it very much. Yes. Thank you. I'm tied enforcing from Nashville Blues. Along. I in the Great State of Florida now. Saint. Augustine. And I'm just I am. So things that these comments that. Know trump is going to define the police. It's totally totally ludicrous. There's not a big supporter police united. States then our President Donald J trump and my father would agree it'd be ninety one the not attend and he's got trump as well as my mom Janet. Janet Ball for trump as well as the rest of my family doug. Dom. And as a police officer. I believe these comments that by the make. Again well, it happened tonight and you would David Muir within have ready at his disposal, all the comments of Joe Biden Kamala Harris to fund police maybe Joe Biden method that trump defends the police had val out of place. I'm not sure if the vowel was in the right place but nobody stands more police officers then Donald J trump, and in fact, he was endorsed by a large nypd unit at his golf. Course in New Jersey about a week ago, and that caused the Blasi another to go crazy. It's incredible. It's unbelievable. It's not right but the entity whether it's black or white Democrats and progressives who wanted to fund the police are uniformly Democrats and those who want to keep the place and embolden the place to do more other Republicans. So when the interview tonight that Biden said that trump wants to defend police. Why didn't David Muir take his head off with that politically. because. It doesn't play their up. You know the one to thinking I think. Everything's again you know. Matter who they believe. So I WANNA thank you for years of service and and New York because I can't imagine a or state without police I think you're almost an extension of the military. In fact, you're the thin Blue Line between democracy and anarchy. Now to cops occasionally make a mistake absolutely, it happens all the time is seven hundred and fifty thousand cops if one hundred, one percent make a mistake that's about seven hundred and fifty bad cops and that's a big number, but it's a very small percentage of the total and the singular act of a bad cop doesn't mean the whole group was responsible if. You apply that principle to African-americans you'd be called her a racist I. Don't assume that black males are gonNA commit crime because blackmails disproportionately commit crime each person I'm meet that's black. That's an individual person and expression of God's love. Why can't Democrats say that we want to defend police and make sure they have the tools necessary to keep us safe mayor Lori lightfoot in Chicago wants to keep protestors from her house. So she blocks off her entire street and she says I'm the Mayor Chicago I want be safe. How about the black kids living in the south side? Of Chicago Larry DO THEY WANNA be safe also? Absolutely, and like you said, NEFA. On your show, it's all these democratic blue states and blue cities. That's where the problem lies and I think that's sped up and sick and tired of all this nonsense I. Think you'll see elections this year now Larry lastly, when I look at the polling realclearpolitics, dot com according to the experts. Trump is down five points in the state of Florida Down Five points in Florida. Of course, if he loses Florida, it's over if he loses Texas it's over if he loses Ohio, it's over do you sense Larry that trump is gonNA lose Florida by a wide margin. Now I did not because everybody I know in trump I live in a very red county but distinct and read I'm want to move out in Europe my vote. For the president but now matters in. Florida. So I'm very confident that. Donald. J trump will carry the state of Florida and That's all we can hope for not. It's we're in trouble because I know if trump wins, we're GONNA have a few nights of rioting but if Biden wins America as we know it is done Larry. Thank you for your service let's continue about away. If you saw the shot tonight by Dallas Mavericks player Luca Danni Pick it was unbelievable but here's the story. Los Angeles Clipper player Montreal's Cheryl. I think from University of Louisville Cardinal appeared to use a racial epithet against Luca the. Night before during a playoff game Friday night couple nights ago as players including heroin war social justice messages on the backs of their Jersey Social and racial justice. So this player Herrell of Louisville hurled a racial epithet at Luca Danni. The great player Larry Bird of this generation who plays for Dallas and tonight when no time left on the clock Luca here like twenty five point of twenty, five, foot three point fade away to win the game for the Clippers and so I'm you know people make mistakes what heralded was wrong to use racial epithets during a game against an official referee or another player is wrong. It's racism especially when you are a patch about racial equality then using racism and what happened before tonight's game I thought was great. Now is herald during the pre-game festivities one up to Luca and apologize said I'm sorry and Luca. Hugged him accepted. If we accept if we want individuals who make mistakes. Always to be held accountable based upon the race or political positions. That's wrong and this is referenced to my good friend. Tom Brennaman here in Cincinnati who off Mike made some intemperate comments about about homosexual which was wrong and he apologized and said he was wrong the Fox sports still fired him and that's wrong because Thom Brennaman is profoundly sorry for what he did Herrell apologize to Luca. They hugged said, don't worry about it. No big deal. If I make a mistake, you make a mistake you say something you shouldn't have said the best approach assuming the apology is heartfelt. Do accept out apology. Except your mistakes quite often you'll accept the mistakes that I make what happened to grace and redemption what happened to understand it depends. From whose lips spring incorrect words if it's Thom Brennaman he gets hammered. MANTRAS Herrell. It's all. Okay. But even Stephen a Smith when after Harrell of ESPN and some others and they showed up. But I want herald a play I wanted to move on Luca accepted the apology. Why won't the same thing apply to my friend Tom Brennaman who a God fearing man, the son Marty Brennaman and the best there is and Fox sports. He said off Mike intemperate things about gay men, and for that he was hammered with no sense of Redemption Thom. Brennaman behavior was was wrong. His words are incorrect and he needs to have time to get back and recognize what he did was wrong which he said apply the mantras Herald Standard at Thom Brennaman he'll be doing foxsports football games in about three weeks. Santa. What's good for the goose is good for the Gander and I'm glad that heroin Luca got together before the game and bury the hatchet. Let's move on and then Luke Hits Twenty five foot fadeaway to win the game. Revenge is a soup best served cold. Let's continue with more twenty three minutes after the Hour Bill Cunningham. The Great. American. With you every Sunday night. Tell you what join Amy Wagner in Scott. Sloan. Tomorrow morning at ten, thirty, seven am news radio seven, hundred w out. Wall. Coming up in about thirty five minutes is your good friend of Mine Sean Hannity, and if you want to know exactly what Herald said Mantras Herald from Louisville said about Luca Danni. Black player making racial epithets tornado white player check out the drudge report I can't say what he said. We do know that. I want to read you the comments of Jay Williams the Great Duke Guard. Who Does work I think for ESPN he said quote, I can only imagine if Look Don Had said something like that and it was caught on tape. Caught I can only imagine during during black lives. Matter how much of a big deal it would have been considering today's racial climate would have been a massive story Luca lost all credibility everybody would have commented on it. People would have asked Lebron James people would have asked another player about everybody would add some sort of a statement to make the NBA would have gotten involved because racial epithet from. A. Black player to white player in addition to that Gary Sheffield is the son of Major League star Gary Sheffield said the solution is simple even if you don't like it, the NBA has suspend mantras Herrell of La Clippers, and send a message that race based derogatory comments like his on the basketball court won't be tolerated. The NBA set this president with gay slurs on the court. There was a time when. When An NBA player from Los Angeles Kobe Brian who tragically passed away several months ago made a Gate derogatory comment toward an official and he was suspended and so when you have a black player issuing racial epithets against a white player, it was all made up before tonight's game in which Luca was so fabulous in one the game he accepted the apology Kenya, we have the same grace and atonement and accept us of wrongdoing when Tom Brennan or others make comments that the sorry about did not mean to be air and is a profound apology only, I guess forgiveness only goes one way in this world. So let's continue with more coming up. Next is Carl and David and Karen, and many others have aligned becomes available eight, six, six, six, four, seven, seven, three, three, seven, Bill Cunningham the great American with you. Every Sunday. Night. Lance, McAlister about six. Oh seven picks up the pieces of the debacle in Saint Louis and s whether at the trade deadline. So the reds be buyers or sellers on newsradio seven hundred wwl. W. Cunningham and before I go back to the calls, I WANNA get Carl David and Karen before midnight before the witching hour when Sean. Hannity. Joins us from somewhere near and around Long Island. When you watch the Democratic National Convention it was more about character personality more than policies and they wanted to sell you the idea that trump is a bad person. And that Joe Biden is wonderful. He's got old Joe Sniffen hairs and having his language roaches, stroke his legs as he sat in lifeguard chair. He didn't want to deal with the policies didn't want to deal with the impeachment didn't want to deal with the Russian collusion delusion didn't want to deal with missing post office boxes as if that's a series issue. See You. Can't say that trump has not delivered on his promises how about this tax cuts increase revenue About conservative judges over two hundred of them because largely because of my good friend in yours Mitch McConnell in. Kentucky. Life policies the most pro-life President and American history. Scaling. Back government rules and regulations as spark the American economy. He built a great US economy that works for everyone especially, African Americans and Latinos. He did a great job in that group he cut up at Tropical smoothie cafe. They want you to get away every day unwind with their watermelon mojo and new Guava Margarita smoothies pair one with their delicious new barbecue case idea for a mini summer vacation. This summer tropical smoothie cafe is bursting with flavor made to order with fresh quality rock ingredients with sixty Washington. DC. Area locations. It's never been easier to ride the wave of flavor order ahead online for carry out curbside pickup or delivery at participating locations. Tropical. smoothie cafe you're on tropic time now pro. Taxi. Plug in that tank, we deliver propane straight to extend your. Went through that's. Paying taxes E. Pay Dot com cooking this weekend if really is your plan to make it easy on yourself go propane taxi dot com enter Promo Code bbq Ten for ten dollars I barbecue tank exchange delivered to your door. It's that easy with propane taxi. So you can focus on family friends and fun Major Peacedale in the Middle East which allowed most countries in the Middle East outside of Iran to be separated from the radicalism of Mu Laws in Tehran in now has deals all over the Middle East with Arab countries which trumping the mediator to get the most of the moderate countries are now working with Israel, which is tremendous a major peacedale. Proving wrong. Those who said, Assad would lead to instability a war. In fact, this president has voted war the military and the Democrats wanted them to attack wrong when they attack American military assets and the President at the very end said, no, I'm not going to be a war president, the Democrats and the media and the military wanted him to attack and this president said, no, he was dead right about democratic mayors allowing lawless. Writers to destroy parts of American cities we have an had great American cities, Chicago Los Angeles, Austin New York Baltimore Cleveland Detroit Cincinnati Great American cities destroyed by leftist mayors who to fund police have lousy public schools no job creation incredible and he stood up to communist red. China who by the way badly wants Joe Biden back in charge badly wants him back in charge and the next several days. He's GonNa Make America normal? Again. In these the election to be a choice not between personalities I've been with the trumpster not spent any time with Joe Biden nor would I want to? This should be a binary choice between the policies that work against the cities that do not Joe Biden tonight with the ABC News David Muir and Robin Roberts is clearly past his prime. As I said, earlier tonight if the twenty ten, Joe Biden who was what? Sixty eight years old at the time debating Paul Ryan if that guy was running for president. My President would be in deep trouble but not he's confused out of touch and it's a fifty year record leaving people wondering what is this guy? Really believe? He's been on both sides of every issue and if it's wrong to saddle up next to segregationist, he said one of his best friends in the Senate was trump Thurman and also Robert KKK bird. Unlike trump is often other democrats who put Biden the position and defending the indefensible. And that's what's happened. Tonight on that ABC News interview and more. There's a healthy fear that Americans have and it's going to get much worse that Bidassoa diminished and so passive and transitional. That basically Bernie Sanders threw Comma Harrison. AFC will take over the presidency. And you might recall that an Obama administration official. Secretary. Of Defense Robert? Gates said quote I think he's been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades unquote. He's wrong and now he is mentally infirm and the media refuses to deal with it because it's obvious after Labor. Day I think we're GONNA figure it out. Unless continue, now, let's go to Karl David then Karen and many others Carlin the great state of Texas Karl Welcome to the Bill Cunningham show and Carl, how are you? Kidding me really fine. Thank you. I'm actually been down here about a decade and a half extra from Ohio originally but I want to say something happened to me what you're talking about a couple of segments ago and that was in the Marine Corps Ninety six of an absentee ballot. Okay. There's a few people in my unit about five I. Believe it was from the area and they Wilson Apetit when everyone was a Democrat his. Are. The four of us you voted Republican did not and what worries me so much about this whole thing is how many shady bureaucrats if the the county courthouses in the poll counters are GonNa try to rig this and even if there is a gop person on the side, how never-trumper like our cloud governor case somebody like that? That's what that's what concerns me the most about upcoming election. You know car I hear Democrats say by any means necessary by any means necessary trump's gotta go about. A month ago I had a caller, a female caller I think from Tennessee who said to me that if you vote for trump, it's similar to Germans voting for Hitler in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty, four, and the minds of Progressive Liberal trump equals Hitler Republicans, equal Nazis and so if you have the mentality that we cannot allow Adolf Hitler disease. Control of America by any means necessary and that's how sick the left is in this country they are sick to say that trump is you either are. Stupid about what happened in Nazi Germany and to compare Republicans like you and me to members of the Nazi party. So when you say you don't trust what's going to happen with the mail in ballots you're exactly correct because they believe in their own sick minds that our president duly elected. Duly, elected then he was wrongfully elected because Russian collusion delusion and he should have been impeached and wasn't and that he stealing mailboxes in his free time. That's the attitude of Liberal Progressive Democrats who run cities like Austin Texas right into the ground and so if that's the attitude. Carl. That's why they do it. I agree but it's also the idea of setting the it's also. Frustrating as from family members who neck of the woods the tri-state community has but a month ago there Hyde Park, you saw a bunch of anti-trump slow this. But thankfully, we had some thinner there montgomery and Bughouse and every other vessel on the river headed trump flagged. But. Anyway, but they don't truly understand that the media is actually a PR firms DMC and they have masters degrees from community model from Xavier. University, but must be. Screened from from there, not leave your a point guard they're back in your day but the anyway I just they just don't believe you know I just can't believe somebody who's that well educated intelligent is suckered into the media propaganda that's I'll Carl Texas. The goal is to Flip Texas or Florida blue and if if either one happens, we're done for the rest of the century and the goal also is too quickly declare another national emergency that Biden said denied he would declare it when it becomes the president is shut down businesses. Shut down schools, send everybody home, print more money get us all on welfare to make sure that you vote democratic. The most loyal democratic voter is somebody who gets a check in the mail from the Democratic Party they're gonNA vote democratic, and so we can't let this country be destroyed on our watch Karl. Thank you for your call. Let's continue. Now. Take as many calls. Can we got David in Ohio and then Karen and North Carolina the home of the tarheels and David in Ohio welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show and David go ahead. First of all Joe Buck is. An available play football. Let me ask you this question. I asked this question of a of a noted football coach at Ohio state his name I can't use. But what happens in the middle of October let's say it's a Saturday night the middle of October and you have Auburn is going to be playing Alabama. You're going to have maybe the browns and the bangles playing you're gonNA have a high school football happening all over Kentucky Indiana many other parts of the parts of. The country you got football being played everywhere. You got the baseball playoffs and the world series. Happening H. L. Stanley Cup is being contested if all the sports going on and there sits the book is the Wolverines. The Hawk is the wildcats, the golden gophers and more not playing football because the big ten is run by liberals, you got the SEC the the ACC, the NFL, MLB NHL playing and the big ten cannot play how ridiculous would that be? Well you know you are vacant good part because saying about is you know I'm from Columbus and you know the buckeyes everything Buckeye. And you know if everybody else is playing and we're not in it. You know that is Kinda disconcerting. Right, it's ridiculous but you know I you know I guess they just have to make the best judgment they can. You know I'm not in this situations, but I just want to say something You know how Donald Trump took that I q test right and he said he did really well, and he said by the why don't you take that test? How do we know that Donald Trump actually took that test? How do we know he didn't pay someone to take it for? Idea to me it's not relevant. I. Like his policies his policies work what he did with the sister. What he did with a never a niece what he did forty or fifty years ago with a porn star. What he did twenty years ago to golf tournament I couldn't care. David has policies work I mean, and if that was important, how to Bill Clinton ever service president if those things matter. Okay I I see what you're saying but. Donald trump he does see divisive encounter as your question. Divisive let me ask you this was Barack Hussein. Divisive. Not like trump. Oh. well I. Tell You what David if the successful Presidency Hillary Clinton would be in the White House white right. Now, the reason trump won is because biden an Obama failed and I don't care what personality you have what I want is tax cuts conservative judges, pro-life policies cutting government regulations, peace deals in the Middle East and I want peace in the major cities. Now by on the other hand opposes all of that. He doesn't want tax cuts he wanted tax increases he. Wants liberal judges he want abortion to become a sacramento. He wants more government Rosen regulations. He wants to destroy fracking and coal, hell and Twenty Oh eight how about this and twenty eight it was the policy of the Democrat Party Obama embraced no gay gay marriage in coal fired power plants that was twenty eight, and so when you talk about divisiveness, the reason trump is in the oval office is the failure of Obama. That's why trump's there you agree with that don't you? He Hung. Up. Good Let's continue take a short break and flying becomes available. It's eight, six, six, six, four, seven, seven, three, three, seven, Karen will be next than many others and there is some aspect of trump's personality that rubs especially women the wrong way I get that but please the most successful president of my lifetime in his first four years has been Donald. J. Trump much better than even Ronald Reagan trump is delivered constantly. Now personality doesn't rub me the wrong way I love being what the guy many others don't anticipate don't like it and and like my last caller said well. He's not a friendly guy. He's not good I. Mean I mean after all he's divisive. Well, how device it was Bill Clinton L. Divisive was Hillary Clinton now device it was Barack Hussein Obama and Joe Biden how divisive very divisive how devices from the Democratic Perspective was Bush forty three was Bush forty three not devicive to a Democrat in two, thousand and two, thousand, four how device it was Newt Gingrich the point is. If you're a strong liberal or strong conservative you anger about half the country and I don't care about the personality we do in your private time and have Bill Clinton at the Democratic National Convention talking about Proper Behavior in the Oval Office almost got sick to my stomach. Are you kidding me and Hillary Clinton talking about ethics and values and morals are you kidding me and so I get what you're saying personality wise. If it's between trump and Biden personality. Wise. Maybe buying would win. I don't care about personality I care about results and this president has delivered. The rioters are destroying major American cities under the auspices of left-wing liberal mayors, absolute destruction of our cities once great cities and I ask you this. Are they worth saving? As we continue, Karen will be I and many other Bill Cunningham. The Great American with you every Sunday night. Jay ratliff will be in with Mike McConnell tomorrow about five zero seven am along with the Segman on newsradio seven hundred WWL W. Great Americans. Through so and Karen in North Carolina. Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show Karen. How are you? Hi, I'm great. How are you doing bills? Being American. Yes, it is a I'm a woman and I'm GonNa tell you trump does not rub me the wrong way I think he's great. He's just said how it is and he's trying to clean up the swamp, which is very deep there. So he's doing great I'm retired from the post office and so is my husband I met my husband at the post office and I'm GonNa tell you there are conservative good people there too but their arms with with the unions they're deep deep Democrat. They tell you to vote for Democrats. You know it's it's a big deal. There you know and it's just like the Teacher's Union so it's rough but I've watched the vote for the post office. There is so much lying going on, they take those boxes down all the time bill they remove machinery all the time I feel so bad for the new post master general because they're doing wrong. Question The post office. The two major sources are revenue is first class stamps and because of email that's taken one helmet been our he has been dying for. Beer in the other thing packages and Fedex ups of takeaway that business, and so you're left with about the same number employee's don't have the same work to be performed because of email text messages and Fedex, and so there's got to be a reform in the post office. The Democrats don't want it. They want to create something that doesn't exist to fit their prejudice in their bias, but the post office needs serious reform and trump wants to do it but the Democrats won't let them I have not been talking enough for the parcels when they deliver for Amazon and an Amazon making a killing and what we're. Pennies on the dollar for delivery, with Amazon, to keep them as a customer and even open on Sundays and deliver it in two days it's just a big loss leader. We're just losing money left and right with the postal service. But again, it's it's nothing to do with the first class letters. There's nothing we're just always have lots of volume and that's just a story, and so I want to get this right and anybody else that we're supposed to office they're welcome to call in and say the same thing and there are conservative there but we are already vote for. Democrats. The Union, and it's and I think a lot of those Republicans voted yesterday with the Democrats because they know they're mailings. All of a sudden disorder GONNA disappear when they're trying to. Know. Karen thank you for your call but I've great respect for my personal mailman who does a great job but you can't tell me an organization that to began in seventeen eighty nine doesn't need serious reform in twenty twenty trump wants to do it. The Democrats won't let them unless continue one other thing with identity politics. A kind of says like come on Harris, the color of your skin, your gender sexuality is a predictor of talent. There are derelict's that are white and genius that are black and vice versa. If you're busy as the Democrats are checking identity boxes, maybe someone should have stopped to ask how Kamala Harris to in the most recent democratic. She was put out of her misery about Tulsi Gabbard had a miserable campaign. She had fifteen percent of the vote that went down to three percent never made it to Iowa and our staff members were not paid and said, she was lousy to work for it doesn't mean if you're white male and straight that you're competent anything else you're incompetent all kinds competence and incompetence come in every gender every color every sexual orientation there is Democrats believe you gotta check the right box. And that's not the case I want competent politicians. If they're all black all day all straight all white female, whatever it is, I couldn't care less Gimme competence and government. There are many suburban females that don't like the trumpster because personality rubs him the wrong way Karen was one of them but I want a competent politician irrespective of color or gender or sexuality to run. The government and trump's doing one hell of a job and Kamala. Harris has a history even though she's very qualified of not successfully running her own presidential campaign and binds run for president now for about fifty years. So let's continue with more coming up. Next is your good friend and mine somewhere in Long Island the honorable Sean Hannity Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night. Willing. Bad. Brought to you by choice hotels, econolodge and Roadway Inn hotels are serving up double points for every qualifying stay book at Choice Hotels Dot Com. Now here's the man who's been recognized radio's best the recipient of not one but two prestigious Marconi awards for his broadcast excellence, the one and only. Bill Cunningham. Billy Cunningham, the great American Sean Hannity is the Star of all media radio host television host, of course, political commentator and author more importantly my friend Sean Hannity. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show and Sean Hannity Houria. Bill Cunningham, God bless you, God bless the United States of America. You're a great American. He's told me Bill. Cunningham Ohio is going Donald J trump and we will hear we can now project. Donald J trump has wanted the Buckeye. State of Ohio, we texted earlier today I say nine percent of us to be eight and a half and twenty sixteen. I can't find a biden sign with a search warrant and the buckeyes state. And so I can't imagine what's happening and the media tonight I watched the interview with David Muir and Robin Roberts after about forty minutes I stopped it I couldn't do it anymore Robin Roberts would ask her how how proud of you be the first woman of color to run for high. All this stuff for softballs but let's go to the beginning of this We've been friends at least for the last. Twenty twenty five years I can recall you telling me I asked you before why haven't you written another Book Live Free Die, came very recently and you said, well, look I'm real busy and it's hard to do. The hardest thing I do is to write a book what did decide to write live free and Die Philly. Bill Cunningham and one of my best friends the last book I wrote was in Twenty Ten And About a year a little over a year ago I saw something emerging that I never thought I'd see in this country and that is. A drive to hardcore. Stayed is leftism socialism whatever you WANNA call it. and which is the antithesis of everything that made this country. Great. you. you think about free market capitalism how is it? America was able to build the the military might and technology to save the world from fascism not the tropical smoothie cafe. They want you to get away every day unwind with their watermelon mojo in new guava. Margarita smoothies pair one with their delicious new barbecue pork case a dea for many summer vacation. This summer tropical smoothie cafe is bursting with flavor made to order with fresh quality rocket ingredients with sixty Washington DC area locations. It's never been easier to ride the wave of flavor or ahead online for carry out curbside pickup or delivery at participating locations tropical smoothie cafe you're on tropic time now ISM. Imperial Japan Communism and more recently you know radical Islamism. It's because of freedom. It's because the liberties because the capitalism is because the innovation and invention. And I'm listening to the the this cast of characters. Now. Ending with the ever. How do I say it nicely, the ever forgetful Joe Biden. Who seems very tired and worn out and seems like you need the hot cocoa and Nappy in my view but I'm not a doctor I won't play one on the Bill Cunningham. Radio, show. And I'm why I'm listening to what their stated policies are Bill Cunningham. There's never been a major political party in the history of this country. That is that is promising. The the hardcore leftism. Bernie Sanders was an an outlier in the Democratic Party. He was he was an annoyance to the Democratic Party. And now Joe Biden, has literally played. Your is his his radical. Socialist economic. Agenda. The Joe Biden is pledging trillions of dollars for this new green deal. He's pledging higher taxes he's pledging. America. ending energy independence with which Donald Trump gave us for the first time seventy five years, and and the first time we're the world's largest producer of energy ever and like one hundred years. And to. This is not hard science. I have a chapter in the book it's called socialism a history of failure. Okay I don't care what name it's been given. Okay. I don't care what country it is. I don't care what form it's taken if you. WanNa talk about now how many tens of millions starved to death in China the Bolshevik revolution the Soviet satellite states at the height of the Cold War Hungary Bulgaria Yugoslavia Czechoslovakia Poland East Germany. What happened all of these lofty promises are made. And none of them are ever fulfilled their never kept. Ninety four trillion for a new green deal fifty, two, trillion for Medicare for all Kamla Harris literally is a co-sponsor of both of those bills in the US Senate. So this is what they're saying. They're going to do amnesty open borders, the United Sanctuary states of America higher taxes redistribution. Punish punish. hard work, excess risk reward capitalism, the antithesis of. The, there's never been a country in the history of man that's accumulated more power abused. And advance the human condition and this one Cunningham no question it's Sean Hannity I guessed from California as you do and I look at what Los Angeles was on Ronald Reagan I look about what New York City was like under Rudolph Giuliani and Michael Bloomberg for Twenty Year Glory period it's back before Dinkins, can you talk about the crime this respect for law and order the emptying out I spent a lot of time at six. And Six Thousand Thirtieth Event Hotel walking into do my TV show come to your show now, and then it was safe. Look a lot better and makeup. But what if if? If anybody would be on sixth avenue between maybe thirtieth and seventy seven one is New York look like today tonight. One of the most fascinating things. One one of the more liberal parts of New York City would be called the upper west side. and. So you have the the most liberal residents and then I call him comrade the Blasios the mayor new. York. Probably the dumbest human being I've ever seen in political office ever elected cutting a billion dollars from the police budget and eliminating eliminating the street crime task force. That Guiliani instituted followed up by Bloomberg to his credit on Bloomberg credit. And those were the ones that what took the murder rate from twenty five, hundred a year to five hundred, and then below that the three hundred and they did it by tough policing they did it by saying, okay. Where's the highest concentration of crime and violence and okay how do we stop it? And now, even those very liberal upper. West. siders that live in an expensive multi million dollar apartments and CO OPS and condos. If saying I'm getting out of New York New York City has lost over five hundred thousand new residents just in Kobe. And the aftermath of the violence that has taken place. Here's a question I have for those Navy I point out in the book young people seem to be attracted to socialism. So Okay Everything's GonNa be free well, then have free guaranteed pre K. Through College Education Free Student Loan forgiveness. We're GONNA have three guaranteed government jobs free guaranteed government wage, free guaranteed government vacation re guaranteed government, healthy food. We're going to have a free free health care. We're GONNA have free retirement. Here's my question. So the fundamental role of government. It should be first and foremost law order safety security. Would you agree with one hundred and if you're not safe, no other right means a darn thing and I think suburban women and African Americans and major cities those in Portland Seattle Chicago. Or going to say you know what? We can't take it and I'm not sure there's ever going to be another Republican mayor and your home city New York City but I cannot imagine suburban Americans looking at what's happening all over the major cities and saying is New York City. Worthy of being saved. CAN WE SAVE PORTLAND CHICAGO IS It worthy. Should it be saved Sean Hannity or should they live in their own juice company? A BILL CUNNINGHAM I don't give up on anybody or any life or any city or any state where the United States listen. Let's give if we were to give great. Let's give a great for all order safety security, New York. CITY CHICAGO Seattle Portland La San Francisco, the one thing they have in common as they've been run by Liberal Democrats for for decades. Okay. I give them an ASS. How are they doing on the next most important role of government that would be education? Okay and all of those big cities we have failed America's I look at our children that is America's national treasure. We have failed them. There are thirteen public high schools in the city of Baltimore and not one not one student in thirteen high schools is proficient in math. There's like ten proficient in reading. We are we are destroying the opportunity of these children because of the unholy alliance with Democrats and teachers unions. Okay. How did the OBAMACARE thing workout? Well, millions lost their doctors millions lost their plans and all of us are paying on average two, hundred percent more per year and almost forty percent of the country Bill Cunningham. You know fly over country the great city of Cincinnati you're. guess what they only have one biden. CARE, option next question how Social Security and Medicare doing you trust the government to guarantee everything's Free No. Well last time I checked the lock box for Social Security was rated and they robbed it and they squandered it and they're going to its bankruptcy as Medicare's going towards bankruptcy. So now all of a sudden we're going to double down on more government or false promises look if it's China if it's the Bolsheviks if it's the former Soviet satellite states it more recently the murdering dictator in in Cuba the Castro brothers or Venezuela, they promise everything and it always ends this way unfulfilled broken promises more poverty more misery less opportunity and you give up freedom in the in the name of false security that is the vision of Biden and Kamla Harris. That's what's at stake bill, Cunningham and seventy two days. This country will be the ultimate jury and let's face it. If we every crisis needs to be used to advance a left-wing agenda, I look at the Joe. Biden again tonight, which he said. Repeatedly, if I become the President Oh, my God January the first and my doctor Fauci who by the way his testified he held up a thick plan that he and others put together Dr. Burks he also said the Donald Trump has saved thousands of lives but nonetheless, he said he's GonNa shut down America. This crisis has been used to advance socialism stay at home social distancing closing businesses, closing schools and colleges universities stopping meetings and groups stop sports activities, and this'll be used again as a pretext. To seize control of the oil fields of Oklahoma Texas, the fracking and Ohio Pennsylvania and Tennessee. Imagine what that's GonNa look like Joe Biden and the Martinho imagine that we're GONNA lose millions of high paying career jobs in the energy sector because while they're offering anything everything for free, they're promising and ten years we will no longer be allowed have fossil fuels ok that just happens to be the lifeblood of the world economy that's not going to end very well for anybody it will be the greatest. Greatest Wealth, destruction we've ever seen and I wanna tell you something Bill Cunningham I. Don't WanNa make this prediction because I love this country with all my heart mind body and soul I am making a prediction if God forbid, we make a mistake and seventy two day on right now. Bill Cunningham America in a very, very short period of time will become unrecognisable. And for the sake of you know Ronald Reagan said. Freedom is but one generation away from extinction. You know when? I think of my my my father, the Family Court probation guide grew up poor and bedside. My mom grew up poor in the South Bronx Prison Working Sixteen hour shifts all the years I grew up. And I think of my dad fighting in World War Two and I think of all the blood sweat tears toil the sacrifice for liberty. We can't lose freedom for this generation. And we have the ability and the choice and the understanding. You know what the hardest part is we got a mob in the media that ninety, nine percent they hate this president every second minute hour of every day. If Donald Trump toured cancer, they would want to impeach him for curing cancer. So I just hope and I do believe in the American people, the American people that get up work hard feed their kids race out the door you know, pay their taxes, obey the laws work at fourteen hours shovel coffee down their throat in the morning they come home to have a little bit to eat they tutor their kids they collapsed. They wake up the next day and do it again. They are the ones that will save this country. It's the people of Cincinnati. It's the people. CLEVELAND. It's the people in Pennsylvania. Hey. Pennsylvania. Yeah. How is eliminating fracking? Ohio Yeah I'll tell you what lastly we text a little bit today and you said to me in the text that trump will win Pennsylvania. There's no poll to indicate that is going to win the keystone state. Not One poll indicates is going to win the home of the quakers and the nittany lions not one, and so what are you seeing in Pennsylvania that your cohorts and the media failed to see which also failed to see in two thousand, sixteen, Bill Cunningham I love you. We've been friends we've been out I remember two thousand in was four. You and I got on a plane with Zell Miller Chafee Watts Bill Bennett. Oliver. North and we did five cities in Ohio five cities and Florida five cities in Pennsylvania and the odds were against George W Bush winning reelection. In in twenty sixteen, there were almost three hundred polls that show trump was gonNA lose seventeen poll said he had a shot You and I believe that you and I looked at each other in two thousand and four. We saw the crowds, the passion, the enthusiasm, and we looked at each other onstage at Lee said, George W Bush be reelected when I came back four years later when we were on that same state. I looked at each other we say, billy. I don't say summit I. Don't see it I see. Don't. We see now that same John McCain who if I remember the might have been a small little controversy about you. Know. Rome. Barack Hussein Oh. My God. When he got inaugurated. What did he say Barack? Hussein. Obama twice unfortunately, he said it which confirm my belief that I wanted to give respect to him at the end of the day fight like warrior poets I believe in the end of the day, the American people generally get get it right and on November third if we get it wrong Venezuela twenty years ago was the richest country in South America and now human beings are eating grass. Don't mean smoking and I'm eating it, and so the same thing can happen here in the states of America weekly that's important. I don't do that stuff. Well, the book is live free or die. It's doing great sold millions of copies and all I can say Sean Hannity let's fight like warrior poets fight as if our lives depend upon autism I, think we got to do it man we got to. Remember the scene and braveheart. And remember there was that one scene where it was the nobles and was William. Wallace. And and they're they're at the the the the nobles go out to meet the British and they're about to capitulate and one of his friends goes to what are you about to do I'm going to. Pick a fight. Freedom is. That's and liberty is worth fighting for free market. Capitalism is the life blood of America's success prosperity. Again, invention innovation capitalism risk reward hard work paying off rights come from God, not from government. The word of Duca rate from Latin means to bring forth from within if you have natural rights from God and you have liberty and freedom and a good education, there's no telling American American innovational sore from this generation on forward John Hannity, live free or die. It's everywhere. Thank you again. Sunday night for coming on the Bill Cunningham. Show may God bless you and God bless God bless you God bless America, and by the way you're a great American Sean Hannity. Thank you my brother. Thank you. My brother. Let's combine love you too man let's continue billy Cunningham live with you every Sunday night. I've only coming up good to hear from Sean Hannity coming up next Dr Jerry Lameiro. WHO's author predictor? He's a prognosticator and he's run all the numbers through is going to give you the actual electoral votes. Trump's GONNA. Win On November third WHO's going to win the house? WHO's GonNa win the Senate how many votes they're gonNA win by and how many Senate seats are going to pick up or loosen how many house seats? How does that? Why have the election when Dr Gerald Marriage going to tell you how to Tom exactly what's going to happen and if you watch the ABC interview tonight, that's the definition of softballs. Let's continue with more bill. Cunningham. The Great American with you every Sunday night. Billy. Cunningham. The Great American on the Sunday night live and we have fires in the West way of possible hurricanes in the south and the Midwest. We have lots of other storms are storms brewing all over Washington I watch the ball ABC News Interview Tonight David Muir and Robin Roberts I. Thought it was some addition like. Like some Sunday night show on television inside edition that has no relevance whatsoever to listen to some of the softball questions David. Muir. To to Vice President Joe Biden Comma Harris was embarrassing but nonetheless, something more important Gerald Mero PhD author of Great News for America. The book is out real world socialism spiritual moral and economic bankruptcy sold by using false hope hopes and deceit, which I saw tonight with ABC News interview it was. Embarrassing, and of course, Dr Romero is a wonderful guest I have mon frequently he's an author political analyst and expert on forecast modeling. Israel Israel deal is to forecast modeling that he put out an early I think it was twenty fifteen or maybe certainly by the Spring of Sixteen Twenty Sixteen Donald Trump was gonNA win the presidency. The nobody believed Dr Gerald. Romero welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show Dr. Laura, how are you? Doing. Fantastic. Well, let me let me get get to the point you have a posting why do you need to vote and twenty twenty, the media's in the business like convincing individuals that trump if he wins, it's legitimate in two, thousand, sixteen, Seventeen, it was it was the Russian collusion delusion. Then it became the sixteen minute telephone call with the leader of the Ukraine and now it's mailboxes and they're trying to convince everyone that even if trump would win de legitimate, why do you need to vote if you're a normal American November of this year more than ever before it is the biggest election presidential election I've studied all them since seventeen, eighty nine. seventy-nine, we ratified the Constitution we've lived on it successfully for two hundred and forty, four plus years. We are now voting this time about whether or not. We want to stick with the constitution under Donald Trump and republican management even though it's not always perfect agree with that or do we want to change our whole system? The Democratic Party has evolved into the Socialist Party. Of America, that's what it is is a Socialist Party Marcus Socialists are running our cities in terms of black lives matter those are Marxist socialists and the Democrats are in powering and allowing them, and if that's what they're doing. Now, that's what they're going to do after the election to, and they have put forward an entire platform that is socialist in nature policies programs that are socialist regime we'll take and that's what we're voting for. Is it going to be socialism or are we going to have constitutional republic with freedoms protected by that constitution? Fundamental difference. Glenn please go ahead. Yes. Well, what are we looking at? We're looking at NRT rioting lawlessness in the streets and they allow the Democrat Party allows it blew governors blue state governors, Lou city mayors. They WanNA define the fleas. Eighty percent of Americans want the police force. At black lives matter the race, the the the use of racial terms all they're trying to do is create a an issue. That's what socialist do all over the world. That's what they've done in the past they pick an issue they jump on that issue, and then what are they do they destroy the society that's what they're trying to do you just society when it has lawlessness and chaos. We go back to twenty. Four one, a young senator from Illinois said, we don't live in a black America. We don't live in a white. America. We don't live in a blue America don't live in Red America will the United States of America it's all about the constitution he martin, Luther King. Junior both believed in a sense, there was a blank check that had bounced to African Americans and. Others, but they relied upon wall and the constitution to cash that check and in twenty eight a large part of the check was cashed and Obama was elected president. Then he quickly turned to the left because his policies failed WanNa look about what's happening. Now, the interview tonight on ABC News. For example, clearly demonstrated the media is going to everything in their power to. Elect Kamla harassed the VP, and of course. So by the presidency because they hate loathed whatever term you want to use what trump is doing to the country, which is relying upon the Constitution and laws. But here's the big question. How will Americans respond to anarchy and it's nothing short than violence looting and rioting in the major cities? Almost all shall I say in? Blue cities and blue states. There's nothing more important than someone's physical safety. No other right matter unless you have the right to live and the right to be alive whether you're a truck driver whether you're a pharmacist whatever you do one of the professions you gotta be able to live, and so I, think it during the DNC of Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday during tonight's. Get together with ABC News and the Democratic ticket. There wasn't any referencing to rioting and looting, which is destroying the major cities and so how big of an issue and suburban households will be the looting, the violence, the rioting, and the fact that the Democrats want to put more section in housing in the suburbs next to the middle class. Americans, how big an issue with that be it's huge it's huge and. There are people who are voting I studied trans. That's how I predict per elections. That's how I do forecasting and there are people who are voting for the first time this year for Donald Trump who have never voted in their lives and they're saying things like I am voting to save this country 'cause the other party has abandoned this country they have left us out in the cold we need our police force. We need to be able to call in the middle of the night nine, one one and get a police officer at three minutes. We don't WanNa get put on hold permanently they know what's going on the American people. Now, the people in the suburbs no, this is going to be historic election. This election is going to have a huge turnout and it's not going to be people for Joe Biden. It's going to be people who want to save the Constitution of the United States people want to have freedom. Remember the purpose of the Constitution was the guarantee, our liberties, the First Amendment and boy they're working on the democratic side to eliminate free speech aren't they? Doing, everything, they can to eliminate the second amendment. Right to keep and bear arms they're also doing everything they can with the lockdowns to make sure you can't go to church. They don't believe in Religion Socialism is based in atheism Karl. Marx was the grandson of famous Jewish rabbi and he abandoned his Jewish faith and he abandoned everything Jewish and he turned atheist and you know what? If you look at and study all these socialist experiments around the world the leaders you find all bunch easiest that's why they hate the church that's why they hate Israel. Well, when I look at some of the chapters in your book about Real World Socialism I want to know Venezuela twenty some years ago. It was like the richest country in south. America with the largest proven oil reserves now they're eating grass I I. Look at North. Korea. Maybe Kim. Jon Maybe maybe own his dad there's been reporting tonight maybe Kim Jong Un the leader of North Korea is dead and I'M Sure, he's in Hell along with Hitler and many others I'd look where has socialism worked anywhere in the world and win the Democrats talk about Scandinavian countries they will tell you Dr. Lameiro. We're not a socialistic country here at all as socialism worked in New York and Chicago and San Francisco and Portland look what's happening eighty one consecutive nights. It's all failed. So what is in the media cover it the way it Can, you imagine if a bunch of right wingers or running around Portland lighting things up for eighty one days in a row? What if the crowd carrying torches and Charlottesville had done that for eighty one days in a row? Do you think the media would Iraq to that? The media is socialist. That's who they are and they're using that to help change the former government. Obama said he was looking for transformation lots of these people, lots of these Democrats lots of these socialists, lots of these Marxists organizations. They're all saying the same thing they don't believe in the constitution they don't believe in freedom they believe in the elite running the country they're the elite they think in there and they're egotistical brains that they know more. than the entire world, the other millions and billions of people, and they're going to do what's right for everybody. But you know what? Everywhere it's tried and I studied I read every book on Marxism and socialism. There is an everywhere they tried they have failed. It always always always leads the economic and social and moral bankruptcy. That's why there's so many. Suicides. In fact right now in America whether it's Surgeries that have been delayed or suicides or drug use you have a bold prediction about what's going to happen in November? The third we share with the American people tonight your predictions, Dr Lameiro you're right on the mark and two thousand sixteen. What do you see happening in the White House? Had you have actually I see chart? How many electoral votes trump's GonNa win plus the House and the Senate what do you see? Let me tell you one other thing about twenty sixteen real quick and that is I don't predict the overall solution overall election without predicting each state separately. Every State Donald Trump won I predicted correctly, and that's why my overall numbers. Correct. This time around right now I see Donald trump getting three hundred and forty eight electoral votes and I see Joe Biden getting one hundred and ninety. He's not even GonNa come close well and I'm gonNA write that down Tena write that down you said three, hundred, forty, eight then they get like three hundred, six in two, thousand, sixteen. Yeah. All right. So he he's going to win all the states he won plus other states and will Joe Biden he was asked the question tonight he said he's getting ready but. Nonetheless Joe Biden actually debate the president on September twenty in two more times. Well, I don't know for sure but I will tell you this. He's going to do everything to get out of it. He can't stand ten minutes don't forget he's not going to be able to rehearse every every sentence of every answer in a debate he's not gonna be able to have a staff you know retaking let's take to take three take four. So he gets right he's going to have to add live he's going have. To. Be Able to do that he can't talk for two minutes in a row. You can't put two sentences together. Let alone a debate with DONALD TRUMP HE'S GONNA lose miserably if he ever gets on a stage with Donald Trump and that's why I think he's going to avoid it. He may say he's got the cold virus who knows what he's GonNa? Say but he's GonNa try to avoid. The President I talked to him about eight days ago. We speak infrequently frequently, but he called me and I gave him my viewpoints about Ohio but he doesn't his advisors are telling him that Biden will not debate him. The president believes he will debate because he has no other choice but to do it, and by then CNN polling tonight has a little bit of a bounce from the Democrats after Thursday is going to be a little bit of bounce for the Republicans then after Labor Day when people actually start thinking about the election and they have a binary choice between trump to fix the economy or Biden, they're gonna go I think toward trump you have. You also predictions on the House and the Senate especially the Senate. What's what's going to happen in the? Senate US Senate this year standard is GonNa stay. Republican pick up one seat. Okay. So it's going to be fifty four right about the house. Please tell me you have prediction the Nancy Pelosi will actually lose the speakership. Yeah. Absolutely. It's GonNa go Republican. It's going to be by five to eight seats. can't you the exact numbers a couple up in the air but between five and eight seats, it'll be republican led, and by the way if there's any truth to that thing about the can't get A. Decision on the presidency and the speaker of the House will be selected president temporarily, it's going to be a Republican Kevin McCarthy I assume you also have a posting about Kobe battle we've been talking about here is for the last six months and when Biden said tonight, you know I will shut down the economy again on January twenty first the Democrats say stay home socially distance closed businesses, closed schools, colleges, and universities, shutdown churches and synagogues and mosques stopped meetings and groups larger than ten stop all sports activity stop attending stadiums how popular that be how that's going to be a real disaster for them I'll tell. You. One. More predictions, not on the list that you mentioned and that is I've been predicting for quite some time. The Democratic Party is going to end in early twenty, twenty one as a result of the devastating blow they're gonNA get in November they're going to lose the house they're gonNA lose the Senate they're gonNA. Lose the White House and I also predicted they're going to lose a number of major blue state governorships and a number of blue city mayors because people are really angry and some of those cities I mean they are really angry they're living in a war zone I can't imagine living in Seattle Chicago New York Seattle Portland can you imagine the life of those living in Portland who tend to be Democrats? They look at the fruition of the combination of eighty years of democratic rule what I see now in Los Angeles with the fires, the taxes, the Rosa Regulations The homelessness illegal behavior in the no schools nothing is functioning next Sunday night I have on James Hurson living in. Los Angeles he's he's going to light them up about what's happening on the south side of Chicago. Massive crime and law does lawlessness in New York. City we've Lost New York City back to the David Dinkins era and Seattle and Portland Atlanta whatever city of point out it has failed the media doesn't point out because they believe in the philosophy but I wanna know where it's worked anywhere in. The world. Because right now, they curtail free speech freedom of religion curtailing freedom of movement placing people under effective house arrest, and if we don't rebel under this I, don't know what it's going to be and I. Think another important issue is taking section eight housing. What's Democrats have promised to do under Biden and stick it in shall I say middle class suburban holds twenty, five percent of. The lows live in suburbia are now minorities. They do not want to have section eight housing next to them with the majority of poor people in America being white it is not a color issue. It is not a race issue. What it is is an issue I want to live my life free and if women do not feel safe, that's going to motivate them provoke to vote for trump. You're absolutely right. This thing about women voting for Democrats that is a fallacy big time. The trend is just the opposite in the opposite direction. The momentum is toward from trump as we're speaking right now is picking up votes. If you talk to them tonight or this week, you can tell you just picked up another ten thousand votes because that's what's happening. It's every day people are switching. It's. Amazing now lastly, Dr Jaramillo narrow about the African American voter ahead on Kevin Jackson last week talking about fifteen to twenty percent. He got eight percent of the block vote. He's polling something the range of fifty percent approval rating among african-americans and Kevin Jackson. Who's WHO's a proud proud black man says that he's going to get fifteen to twenty of the black vote if that happens, he can't win Pennsylvania. I'm sorry. Biden cannot win Pennsylvania bind cannot win Michigan he cannot win Wisconsin or Minneapolis Minnesota I think it's going to happen. He's going to double the black food that's going to shock the world. I think you're both underestimating Donald Trump right now, my forecast model gives him forty two percent of black vote. He's walking away with it and I'll tell you There was one legitimate poll. There are a lot of polls that are not legitimate. One legitimate poll backs me up that says he has at least thirty, five percent. As you mentioned, the approval ratings are up around forty eight to fifty, two percent for trump of all black Americans right now, my forecast models, it's. A forty two percent for Donald trump that Democrats don't have a prayer with forty two percent of black Americans switching. But you know they find the have noticed that they're not getting anything from the Democratic Party and one black after another is saying, why am I voting for them? I'm voting for trump we were better off for the last three years until this virus hit and we're going to be better off in the next three years if we elect the next four years actually. We gotTA RUN DR, Gerald, Lameiro PhD, the bulk is real world socialism, and once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham show with your permission like to have you on maybe the Sunday before the election and Gimme the final numbers absolutely to Dr Lameiro. You're a great American, and once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham show. Thank you. Dr Gerald Romero. He's the best I-. Let's continue with more my final comments or next bill. Cunningham the great American with you every Sunday night. I fully Cunningham. The Great American thanks for listening tonight's and all this here for my French. Sean Hannity. Now, originally met in Atlanta and a great talk station Atlano he Neil Bortz and I it was a wonderful time. I spent some time there and I love being with Sean Hannity. Every chance that get because he has done more in media than any conservative bar none he is the greatest media communicator. Television and radio authors that we've ever had. But if you watch some of the ABC interview tonight David. Muir and Robin. Roberts. It was embarrassing I. Think they asked what is your favorite tree and you like chocolate or vanilla ice cream and how proud are you to become a person of color to be the VP nominee of a major party that was the extent of the questioning I anticipate at some point. That Joe Biden to stand up for like six hours during three presidential debates and justify his lead to socialism from capitalism I. Look Forward to that. Thanks for listening tonight Bill Cunningham with you every Sunday night.