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Thursday, May 9, 2019

Westwood One Daily News Flash Briefing

07:26 min | 1 year ago

Thursday, May 9, 2019

"From Washington DC. This is Westwood One. Daily news for may ninth. Twenty nineteen on John trout in a party line vote. The House Judiciary committee attorney general William bar in contempt of congress setting the table for a constitutional showdown. Correspondent Linda Kenyon has our top story is have it. And the committee report as amended is ordered reported favorably to the house chairman Jerrold Nadler, sending the matter upstairs after a lengthy day of testy debate in the committee. The debate was exacerbated by the White House declaration of executive privilege of the entire Mullah report on Russian election interference as well as the underlying evidence, even as the committee was trying to compel the attorney general to release the information himself. Absolutely not one single page has been given why didn't Adler want the information to begin with. If allowed to go on check this obstruction means the end of congressional oversight and oversight says Nadler is a responsibility given to congress by the constitution. The ranking Republican on the committee Representative Doug Collins, described the Democrats as having a temper tantrum Democrats are angry the special counsel report and did not produce the material or collusion's. They expected to pave their path to impeaching the president Colin said the chairman's request for the full unredacted Muller report was overly broad says. Gimme the whole report. I don't care even classified Collins also wondered why chairman Nadler didn't take the opportunity to see the report under the conditions. Previously said by the attorney general would block the members of this committee from meeting those sections of the report for themselves. It would require me to leave my notes behind the department of Justice. It would prevent me from speaking with my colleagues with other members of the committee about what I might see prior to the vote to hold the attorney general in content Republican Jim Jordan said what's the hurry understanding is Mr. molars going gonna be here next week. Why we doing it? You're gonna get the ask the guy who wrote the whole darn document. We're all gonna get asked him questions democrat Steve Cohen says there's not a moment to waste. He cited new information about President Trump's by Nancy. Well situation that he says suggests that the president might be beholden to Russia. We now know he lost over a billion dollars in a decade in the eighties and nineties he was broke. No Bank would loan him up. Any public portion of the mullahs reports that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia when it comes to the question of obstruction of Justice, many members of congress say Muller left that up to them. They also say attorney general William bar skewed that part of the report in favor of the president. As if he were the president's attorney, not the nation's attorney now the full house will vote on the contempt of congress. I take although when is still undecided. Linda Kenyon, Washington as the House Judiciary committee was acting. The Trump White House was declaring that the entire Muller report is covered by executive privilege. It could prove to be a big gray area. Legally. Bob Costantini, explains committee was taking action White House press secretary Sarah Sanders out with a statement, claiming chairman Jerry Nadler's request for an unredacted Muller. Reports was unlawful. Reckless quote faced with chairman Adler blatant abuse of power net. The attorney general's request. The president has no other option than to make a protective assertion of executive privilege by saying the attorney general recommended the White House claiming -secutive privilege over the unredacted Muller report. The way press secretary, Sarah Sanders, sees it. The attorney general is actually upholding the law executive privilege is usually claim to regarding president interactions with his aides or world leaders as a way to allow for Frank discussions since the Muller report does not fit that type of scenario Sanders, argues, the attorney general is protecting information. Grand jury information confidential information that cannot release. Thank you very much everybody. Thank you very much. His Florida campaign rally last night, President Trump putting aside the differences over the unredacted version of the Muller report to lament a host of investigations subpoenas of which he's out to fight. You know, it was gonna be like we want the mullahs report. Now, they say Mullah report. No, we want to all over again. It is a disgrace. It may soon be a matter for courts to decide. Bob Costantini, the White House. Some drivers who work for Uber and lift went on strike holding protests in cities around the world as over prepares for its stock IPO tomorrow, the drivers were drawing attention to pay rates that continue to shrink and other issues. Like being terminated without. Warning. Steve Kastenbaum reports. Drivers say they're being exploited. So investors can profit here. New York at the height of the morning rush hour procession of Uber and lift drivers moved at a snail's pace across the Brooklyn Bridge up the FDR dry. And around Manhattan their grievances with the ride hail app. Companies were on signs taped to the outsides of their cars. It was one of dozens of driver strikes and protests that took place in cities across the country and around the world several different groups than protested outside. Uber. Lifts offices in queens during the day. Inder Palmer has been driving for for six years. He said he now is to drive eighty hours a week to make ends meet because payments to drivers have been reduced so much I used to. Okay. I make about nine dollars eighty cents a novel. That's how much exploited, but is he and other drivers said they invested a lot of money into cars and SUV's in order to drive for Uber. Helping the company build up its wealth in exchange for the promise of having a flexible work life balance. But now they have bills that must be paid. And it takes so much more time behind the wheel to cover their costs and living expenses on gasoline. My car lanes photos to feed my family here in New York. He said financial hardship led to the suicides of nine drivers exploitation, and legal slavery, beravic deci is president of the New York taxi workers alliance as Uber prepares for its stock IPO. She said drivers fully expect to have their rates reduced even further free. Filing Ober has said repeatedly that drivers should expect to be dissatisfied because they will be cutting down. Down on incentives and driver pay. In a written statement. Uber exects said the drivers are at the heart of their service, and they can't succeed without them. They said douses of people come into work at Uber. Every day focused on how to make the drivers experience better on and off the rude. Steve Kastenbaum, New York. More than a million Americans lost health insurance last year. Looking into the numbers is correspondent Sierra Crawford from Washington this for disease control prevention estimated, thirty million were without coverage into eighteen compared to built twenty nine million the year before analysts say, the Trump administration and congressional efforts to loosen requirements of the Affordable Care Act likely played a role in some going without coverage while the CDC points out the number of Americans with high deductible plans also reached an all time high last year covering roughly forty six percent of people with private health insurance. Offer. Westwood One daily news for may ninth twenty nineteen. I'm John trout.

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Neal Katyal: Mueller revealed Trump is what we call a felon

The Beat with Ari Melber

44:22 min | 1 year ago

Neal Katyal: Mueller revealed Trump is what we call a felon

"Good evening to you at home. It's good to be back with you on the beat. And I will tell you. I think we have quite a show tonight. Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen reporting to prison to begin his sentence today. Coen's lawyer joins us exclusively tonight on that very significant story. Also new pressure on Trump attorney general Bill bar. Former DOJ insider Neil Cacho is here to explain some of what he views unprecedented in that story that obviously is hitting a fever pitch. And later a Republican challenging Donald Trump for the Republican nomination for president is here live for the first time. So a lot to get to. But we begin with the legal and political hurricane that has been heading towards Trump attorney general Bill bar, they say elections have consequences. I'm sure you've heard that tonight. Democrats are saying deadlines also have consequences critics arguing that Mr. bar has used his short, but very controversial tenure to already become one of the most questionable. Trump appointees of this entire Trump presidency and today, Mr. bar gave. Them more munition blowing past congresses long known deadline to provide the full unredacted Muller report House, Democrats are not having it. They are moving towards a vote this week to hold him in contempt. Now if that happens, Mr. bar would become only the second attorney general ever held in contempt and US history and the first to be held in contempt during his very first year on the job chairman Nadler issuing a twenty seven page contempt report against bar at sites impeachment for the very first time as a possible possible end result of the house pro let me show you what I mean, it notes that this house probe may decide whether to approve articles of impeachment for this president or any other administration official that clearly has bars. Attention his department now responding to Nadler today suggesting that they meet on Wednesday to negotiate some sort of quote acceptable accommodation. Now, it's noble and perhaps notable. That at this juncture, we have chairman Nadler now named checking impeachment because he doesn't have to as a legal matter. These topics when raised at all are raised quite carefully. We've reported that when Muller touchdown impeachment in his report. He did it primarily in those little footnotes, a very careful way to know what is legally possible, but ultimately up to the congress all of this wrangling, though is alternately about whether Muller's words on paper come out. Amidst this wider fight over getting Muller's words in the flesh. Democrats now are in talks with Muller's team about a date specific date that could come this month for him to testify and that as you may have heard has the president shook he is now saying he hopes smaller won't testify, but this is not Donald Trump's call. Congress can force all kinds of witnesses to testify and even Bill bar has been reiterating. He's not even against. Catching Miller personally testify. What about Bob mower, should he be allowed to testify before this? I've already said publicly I have no objection to him. Don, mcgann. Bob Mosel report is done. We know that his credibility is now at an all time high with Republicans telling pollsters, they like Muller more now given that he didn't find a Russian chargeable conspiracy. So why is Donald Trump's so worried about what else more will set is Donald Trump worry that he and his attorney general have been excelling during a PR war largely on the fumes of mischaracterization of the mullahs report. And that a fact check about the Miller report issued to the congress and presumably on television sets across America by Robert Muller that that fact check could undo a lot of what they've been doing. I want to get right to it with my Wiley tonight, former counsel to the mayor of New York City in a former SDN y civil prosecutor and former federal prosecutor, John Flannery. Good evening to you. Both. John. What does it tell you that at what might be considered an early stage in this dispute, and certainly the first few months of bar even being on the job, he faces what looks like a very credible warning of being voted in contempt as soon as Wednesday while and also as you noted the resolution that they hope to pass on Wednesday sites possible impeachment for administrative officials as well as our chief executive, and that should tighten the muscles of any person who's done would bar has done which is they're being challenged both of Mr. Trump and his concert Larry bar for having tried to conceal. What was in the report by bringing it to our attention over Passover and eastern wall. Congress was in session. And now we're getting a second chance to talk about it. And they don't want that to happen. They don't want people to study the obstruction aspects of it, even as they're obstructing Congress's requests for information for over. Site purposes, so they're sort of proving their obstruction, even as they're getting into this fight with the House Judiciary, and the other committees that are seeking information from the White House and from the department of injustice, and there you have a turn of phrase, my there's a lot of concern about that. And we've documented here the way Mr. bar has misled the nation at the same time. We've also been careful to note that unlike some people caught up in this. He does not stand credibly accused of any major crime the misstatements that he's made have all been quite loyally, which leaves him wiggle room, even as he misleads. And so I put to you the question here that came from a Republican defender of Mr. bar, basically saying if this is all a fight over a couple of weeks of PR is that really all the Democrats have left take a look. We're looking at sixteen days or a little over that d-actually go to a content report on information that he knows he can't get my question of the chairman is why don't you go down. Why did he read what's already available? And then if he wants more than work with the department of Justice to figure this out instead of having the public show of contempt and trying to discredit Bill bar. My what does that give wrong? If anything in your view. The facts, that's what it gets wrong. Because the issue here isn't just what's in the Muller report. It was William bars decision essentially to say, no, obstruction his reasoning for why no obstruction, and then his as as we have heard from Robert Mueller himself, his confusing. The American public around the context and substance and content of his report, which really in any way, many lawyers that I know including myself read that report is really saying congress. I think this is yours I'm kicking Baldy your court, and that fundamentally means congress has to understand that exchange between Robert Muller and William bar why William bar did what he did. Because that's really about whether or not he's interfering with Congress's constitutional authority. And it also makes it sound like this is just an. Issue around. If bar was meant transparency as he said, his confirmation hearing, some what we're talking about is grand jury material in fact, much of it and William bar has refused to participate in getting a court order that would enable the release of that grand jury material to the public why? So it's really obvious skating. The fact that there's a lot a lot a lot that congress absolutely has the right to understand given its constitutional authority, and John how do you view that? With regard to the fact that what makes Mr. bar, a seasoned attorney is ability to think several moves in advance. He said, he's fine with Muller testifying. He knew a lot of this other stuff would come out and make further come out. So how do you as an analyst reconcile that with the path that he's taking and as you think about your answer, I want to mentor viewers, we're going to stay in this discussion. But we are keeping an eye on. The festivities at the White House where you'll see right here. Some Trump family members gathered outside Tiger Woods receiving an award tonight. And we'll be keeping an eye on that we probably won't bring you any pro forma statements. But if there's news, or if there's tiger news, we'll give you the best of it. John your answer. Well, very curious to hear from molar not so much analysis of the report as his analysis of the timeline going from March the fifth I believe when he met with a bar, and then he met with them on the twenty fourth if that's the Sunday that they released that four page letter and he was with bar in the afternoon. And apparently that letter wasn't the scusi because the very next day Muller sent the letter to bar saying, why don't you use are summaries? And we haven't seen that letter. I don't believe anybody has. And then there's the March twenty seven th letter referring back to that letter saying basically that you've entirely. Presented our report. And then we have from bar. We have a translation of what he thinks is conversation was with Muller, and it's pretty questionable that we should rely on what Barr says he said with anybody because his credibility is as good as Trump's unless he's making an admission against interests, in my opinion. Well, and in the hearing, of course, there was the exchange where he talked about. Well, did you memorialize that call we'll didn't? But under questioning admitted someone DOJ did. So there's two as fully two sided notes that call these are professionals employers. They know each other. Do you think they'll their friends anymore? Recount. The at the end of the day. My do you think that when you look at that Miller was outmaneuvered to some degree if he was reduced after turning in the report to saying, oh, please reveal this or that. I mean, the flip side even though few question molars integrity. It doesn't mean that he makes every right? Chest move, particularly if he thought the bar was going to be in his view, perhaps more honorable. But was he out outmaneuvered there? When before Friday before that fateful Friday. He could have controlled a lot of Elsa. What he put out? Yeah. I mean, certainly appears that way we we don't know all the facts of the exchange us as John said, I'm curious because remember William bar said, well, I gave them opportunities to review, and he said, no. Well, why? And why would he say, no? And is it just because he so completely trusted William bar or because he already knew or had an inkling of what bar was doing. And that's why he had the letter ready to go the next day after the release of the summary. I don't I mean. I mean, I don't know either. Exactly. But my reading of it in terms of litigation procedures that they had enough of a debate about it. Whether it was by signal or implied or explicit that they had their letters. And they're not ready to go about something that they knew they disagreed on. Both of you stay with me as mentioned, we're keeping an eye on Tiger Woods in the president approaching the lecture and there at the White House, but I turn out a congresswoman Mary Scanlon, vice chair of the House Judiciary committee. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me on walk us through the significance of what we've been discussing. What your chair has written with the Klopp ration- of you and your committee? What are you trying to achieve here is the goal to rush towards the contempt voter? You hope in the final hours to get something out of Bill bar and not have to go that far on Wednesday. Well, I are goal for the past. Couple of months is been to see the full unredacted Muller reported in the underlying evidence. That's why we issued a subpoena for it. The attorney general blew through that subpoena list. I guess whatever may first. And then again today has not turned it over yet. So they really leave us no option if they're not even going to negotiate in good faith. Do you think Mr. bar has underestimated chairman Nadler and his willingness to use the powers afforded to the house? He seems somewhat surprised or at least as presenting surprise the ducking. The hearing and refusing the subpoenas would result in this. Well, there wasn't a subpoena for him to appear. So I don't wanna get caught in that red herring to I'm referring to the subpoena for the report. And then what was of all in Terry appearance that he didn't left out? Right. Well, I guess I'm not surprised that anyone in the current administration would be surprised when someone tries to do their constitutional duty. But I think the resolve of the house, the resolve of the judiciary committee is very firm that we have a job to do as you and your guest just mentioned Bob Muller wrote that report saying I may not be able to charge, but congress has a job to do here. And we're going to do that job. What would the substantive bottom-line result of Bill bar being held in contempt? Presumably that he would have to turn over the documents. And if he doesn't. Well, at that point we're in the courts and presumably I mean fines jail, those are the traditional remedies for contempt. You know, it is kind of remarkable that we've never gotten there with an administration before you say jail, you're saying something that is on the table is the idea that this results in a court battle where a judge formerly underscores the contempt finding and then what the attorney general would be jailed. Well, that is one of the remedies that a court has available. Of course, you know, we've never gotten there because we've never had an administration beat that intransigent or so blind to their constitutional duty. I hope we're not there. Now was Flannery your view, I agree. And I think that because the objection is so frivolous, and because the report itself if you consider it as a series of summaries of the investigation. So the argument that we need more is to evaluate the strength of these different claims, particularly the ten obstruction claims, and we understand that we have a conflict of interest from bar and from Mr. Trump because they have no interest in anybody. Knowing exactly what they did. And if you were to just take Mcgann and Donaldson and put them on the hill with their notes, we would have fleshed out that report in a way that summary can't do and lead us to believe the credibility of the challenge to the obstruction of Trump and the department of jus-. Justice. So I think if a judge in the district of Columbia were to see the pattern here of voiding the role that they're supposed to serve as cooperating with another branch of government that they looked pretty harshly about that. And I think that they would have behind it two things. One is now a resolution that is enquiring into possible impeachment. And that's why they need the information. And that is a power of congress that should not be interfered with and that we have a chief of state who chief executive who would usurp the separation of powers and the role that congress has to do what it's doing. And I think those are pretty powerful stuff say executive privilege or any of the things that they wanna wave around. They'll be pushed away like a first year law student. I think in a courtroom before I fit in a break. Congressman my final question. You is this entire fight is just about the sliver of material that we know about partly because the way Muller did his job. And the pressure. That was brought to you have confidence that Mr. bar is going to faithfully and independently overseas the investigations of the twelve or so referrals that Miller's issue about which we have very little information. Well, I hope you're not suggesting that he's going to subvert the law. I mean, I wouldn't expect that of any sworn officer of the US, particularly the attorney general whose job is as we've noted before not to defend the president, but to enforce the laws of the United States. I think we have a lot of very dedicated prosecutors in the department of Justice, and I don't think that they'll let that happen congresswoman scaling jawed Flannery, and my Wiley, thanks to each of you coming up. We have a lot more as I mentioned Nancy Pelosi laying down a marker for Donald Trump define congress and bringing up this potential impeachment and our series opening arguments with Neil Cacho coming up ahead and later Michael Cohen going in and reporting to federal prison today. His lawyer joins me exclusively on the beat tonight to discuss the unanswered questions. And why Michael Cohen says he still has stories to tell and then later in the hour, a Republican governor a former federal prosecutor who says Donald Trump's obstruction is literally worse than Nixon's. Bill weld the first Republican to challenge Donald. Trump in this year's Republican primary, and he joins me live on the beat for the first time. I'm Ari Melber. And we'll be right back. Hi, it's Katy Tur wanna keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go subscribe to the MSN BC daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed or in this unprecedented. Era of news, text MSNBC, two six six eight six six to subscribe. As you probably know on the articles of impeachment of president Nixon article three was that he ignorant the subpoenas of congress that he did not honor the subpoenas of congress. This is very very serious. Speaker Nancy Pelosi making play that defying subpoenas from congress can be an impeachable offense historically has always depended on what the subpoenas are for congress doesn't go to the mat for every shred of evidence. Nixon was defying subpoenas for White House tapes as well as handwritten presidential notes that went to the heart of the obstruction. Pro attorney general Bill bar is defining subpoena for another obviously significant piece of evidence. The entire Miller report democratic issue cheer, Jerry Nadler leading the charge here now too as we've mentioned hold bar in contempt and stating for the first time that this process may lead congress debating whether to impeach the president or any other fish. Which can include of course, Mr. bar. I'm doing now for our series opening arguments with former solicitor general Neal Cacho wrote that special counsel rules that govern Muller, and is of course, and MSNBC analyst good to see you. Good to see you. And welcome back. We missed you. Glad to be back. Neil walkers through what is important about a potential contempt vote or proceeding here against a sitting attorney general. So chairman Nadler has said that there will be this vote on Wednesday, and the vote is occurring because of a very simple thing, which is bar has said, I'm not going to turn over the Miller report. And he hasn't even bothered to go to court to try and get the grand jury material lifted so that could be shared with members of congress on like his predecessors and Watergate in the Lewinsky investigations, so Nadler is saying look if you don't turn this over we're going to hold you in contempt and did you right? Are he said something really significant today? He mentioned the I word now Jerry Nadler is not one to use the impeachment where lightly indeed for the last two years. He's been the guy urging restraint saying we only need to we only do this. If we really have to. But now, I think the because of what bar has been doing with respect to the report. He's even it looks like starting to think about the I word when you look at that. It's all a fight over getting the rest of what Muller has. Mentioned the unredacted report. The grand jury evidence and congress has separate and a wider role than simply would've criminal prosecutor looks at then we have former federal prosecutors over three hundred today coming out and saying their view is that the Miller report shows Muller himself thought this would have been charged for obstruction against anybody else. If you're were not the president your view of of that letter. I mean, it's hugely significant. I've never seen anything quite like it to have three hundred seventy plus former federal prosecutors which span Democrats and Republicans including really prominent Republicans like Judge Martin who is a legendary judge on the southern district of New York appointed by one of the two President Bush's and had another position from the other President Bush all of them saying when we review this evidence, it's obstruction of Justice. And if this were anyone else, but a sitting president this person would be labeled a felony in staring down the fell in fell staring down the barrel of a federal indictment. That is really I think a remarkable thing. And it strikes at the heart of what bar has done. So corrosive -ly because remember bar resolved in forty eight hours. What Muller didn't resolve in twenty two months, which was has the president committed obstruction? And those of us who read the Muller report. When bar finally allowed us to read redacted portions a weeks later after his summary of it wasn't a fair summary. We looked at and we're like, wow, this is actually a really strong obstruction case, Ben witness wrote a fabulous piece in the Atlantic all about it. And there's lots of other analysis that you can see and what you have in. This letter is three hundred seventy prosecutors saying, yeah, we agree with witness. We agree. The mullahs report shows the president is a felon. And so when you look at that, I wonder about the fight going on outside of the courtroom you as our viewers have come to learn of argued a lot of cases, and you care a lot about what the nine or doing. But everyone understands what this is the real world in the world outside the courtroom can matter how much do you think the three hundred plus folks, they're weighing in doing so almost as a direct rebuke or reaction to what you just described. What bar did? I mean, I wonder if whether we'd had a fair playing field from the start and everyone just dealt with the evidence. Whether as many people would. Have felt the need to come out that way. Exactly. I mean, the fact that these folks did so these are pretty resin, folks. I mean, there are some people on there who you know, we'll sign letters. But there's a lot of people who I'm not aware have taken any public positions before. But I think they did so here because of the gravity of the situation here, you've got someone who has been who's sitting president who's committed acts that if committed by anyone else, we would call a felon and put in jail, and I think that they felt like that was their duty. That's all they could do and particularly in light of an attorney general who is blown past any notion of attorney, general independence the way that price predecessors have. And so I think that's part of what's going on. It's about the Muller report and Trump, but it's also about bar, you mentioned bed witness, and he and others have also written about how Inbar Donald Trump may have finally found the protector. He wanted reading here from the Muller. Report the president would bring up other former attorneys general such as Kennedy and holder, giving his view this is Trump's you that they had quote protected their presidents that is brought up as a negative piece of evidence. Although not as low as would say, not dispositive, but negative about Trump's worldview how much does it concern you that at the very time. We're getting Muller's findings. We're also witnessing an attorney general who is increasingly looking like he was created in Donald Trump's image. Absolutely. I think it's worrying me greatly. I mean, this attorney general is acting in unprecedented ways, and the idea that he could be compared to Kennedy or holder is preposterous. I mean, this attorney general from the summary of the Muller report to his clearing of the president on obstruction in the teeth of so much evidence against it is not acting like the attorney general of the United States. He's acting like Torney general of Don, Donald Trump, and look Donald Trump has lawyers to deal with us. He has his personal legal team. He has the White House counsel whose job is it is to represent the presidency. But the one thing that isn't the case is that the attorney general access the president's lawyer, and we have long history about this. I mean, for example, when president Andrew Johnson was impeached in eighteen the eighteen sixties, his attorney General Henry Stanbury, actually resigned as attorney general because he wanted to defend the president. And so he went and became his lawyer in the impeachment trial and then. Notably. After Johnson beats the impeachment conviction by single vote. Stanbury wanted to be attorney general again, the Senate didn't confirm him. And that's an attorney general who is acting up and up. This one is not Neil Cacho, a master of precedent. The night is not over. And yet, I believe you may have the only Stanbury reference on all of the news across America tonight. And we learned so much from you. Thank you for being here. And I want to remind viewers you can find this discussion and kneels pass analysis for us because this is a continuing series at MSNBC dot com slash opening arguments. Check it out I and former Republican governor Bill weld saying Donald Trump has committed the crime of obstruction. And that's part of why he's running against him for the Republican nomination. He's here live. But when we're back in thirty seconds. Michael Cohen going to prison today. I'll get you all caught up when we come back. Tonight. Donald Trump's longtime lawyer advisor, we'll spend his first night in federal prison. Take a look here at this new footage of Michael Cohen as he was turning himself in today at a federal prison in Otis villa village near the Pennsylvania, New York border. You could see him walking in there, and basically overnight we saw a man who was once the high-ranking executive at Trump organization becomes an inmate at a federal correctional facility beginning this three year sentence. It is a swift and ignoble fall from one of the people that Donald Trump relied on most. And then in what we're his final remarks to the public before incarceration Cohen talked about what will come and he won't get out until the next election. I hope that when I rejoined my family and friends that the country will be in a place without Zena phobia injustice and lies at the helm of our country. There still remains much to be told. And I look forward to the day that I think share the truth and thank you very much Cohen. They're suggesting that he may have even more stories to tell and it was quite a scene. You're looking at more that footage today. But experts have also noted that Mr. Cohen has now spoken at length to the authorities and congress, and it would seem that at least his most significant legal stories have been told Cohen also asking why his punishment is so severe when he argues. He was not even benefit Sherry of his confessed election crime saying I didn't work for the campaign. I worked for him. How come I'm the one that's going to prison? I'm not the one that slept with the porn star. And quote that was one of his. Real interviews with the New Yorker before reporting in prison today for an exclusive now I am joined by Lanny Davis. Michael Collins lawyer and adviser a good evening to you. And I know as a lawyer and the work as a person doing the work, you do it's it's not a good evening, obviously for your client or his family. And we understand the humanity of that. I wanted to mention that upfront. Walk us through the significance of what Mr. Colin did want to share today before going behind bars and what it means that there's a fuller truth. He may someday tell well. First of all, I'm pretty sad. I think there is great injustice done in both the targeting of Michael Kohn alone following as the federal prosecutors stated the direction of Mr. Trump now president of the United States who then after becoming president paid hush money in a thirty five thousand dollar check that we put on national television. It's remarkable that members of the public. Party have not once asked why Donald Trump vote thirty five thousand dollar hush money check as president of the United States. Why that in and of itself certainly is a crime that he'll be prosecuted for after he leaves office. But Michael also asked me to remind the audience that the only crime that didn't involve covering up and lying for the benefit and at the instruction. According to the federal prosecutors of Donald Trump involved, a unpaid taxes of four million dollars actually point seven million dollars that at this level has never been criminalized before but treated civilly compared to others such as Willie Nelson. I'm a great fan of his sixteen million dollars of unpaid taxes or Floyd Mayweather, fifteen million dollars. HR block says that you don't ever see criminal prosecution of unpaid taxes unless there are indicators of fraud in this case for Michael cone. There is no hidden offshore accounts. No nominees. No stash of cash, not even an audit. In fact, the only legal violation in Michael Collins life was as speeding ticket. And yet he is the only person in the entire Trump organization who's been prosecuted sewing to jail someone listened to this, especially our viewers who followed the ins and outs are going to say, well, what was that STAN y after is it over, and this was some kind of in your view unfair glitch or was their reasoning behind them throwing the book at him as these other questions remain about as you put it the money spent by the president and facilitated by Trump organization at a manner that that is a crime confessed crime in New York. Well, I don't quite understand. Why the southern district of New York prosecutors who I surely respect as professionals not only took a civil offence over a five year time period under two hundred and eighty thousand dollars of unpaid taxes and made it into criminal offense. According to HR and buck, that's just never happened. And then it newer, Donald Trump junior. Forget about his father not being able to be indicted now, but could be EFI leaves office. His son wrote eight thirty five thousand dollar hush money. Check in March of nineteen excuse me two thousand and eighteen. And that hush money. Check of thirty five thousand dollars came from the Trump trust fund, which was supposed to ever be used for the company for the benefit of the incumbent president. So no indictment of Donald Trump junior many others in the Trump organization, according to Michael's information that he's shared with this other district prosecutors, and we'll continue to share with congress should imperil Mr. Trump once he leaves office and possibly while. He's in office if congress chooses to impeach him. It is a very interesting set of facts one that we've covered before Lanny Davis. Appreciate you coming on the show tonight under the circumstances. Thank you, sir. Thank we're gonna fit in a break. And then I'm gonna show you something. You don't see every day a Republican who worked on the Watergate air investigation of president Nixon who is declaring tonight that Donald Trump's obstruction is both worse than president Nixon's. And is the kind of thing that should deny him the Republican nomination for president live. Next. The mullahs report documents substantial evidence, the President Trump committed crimes in office. That's a big deal. Just as a fact, and it may become a big deal on the politics as well. If either Democrats decided does warn impeachment proceedings, or if there is a Republican awakening now take a look at this. The sheriff Republicans even think that don't Trump obstructed Justice is not only small, but it's been declining down to thirteen percent. A history shows those numbers can actually shift when political leaders shifts some of the first Republicans to turn on Richard Nixon and Watergate where leaders in congress not grassroots partisans who Nixon famously appealed to his a silent majority. Think about the seventeen Republicans on the judiciary committee in one thousand nine hundred seventy four who stood up to Nixon or look today and something we mentioned earlier in the show this bipartisan group of three hundred plus former prosecutors sending. Joint letter, concluding the Miller report shows Trump committed criminal obstruction includes a prosecutor who advised advise the house GOP during Watergate Bill weld. He was counsel, the nineteen seventy four House Judiciary committee. So there are some former officials standing up to Trump regardless of party, but most are in congress as you probably know and are not taking larger actions that could impact Trump's actual standing in the party are the Republicans would actually challenge. Trump's Pat three election after all last time around virtually every prominent Republican was on the record slamming Donald Trump as a disastrous Kook who had nothing to do with the true Republican party. And those are their words. I think he's a Kook. I think he's crazy. I think he's unfit for office. Tired of him going after my family while Donald Trump was building a reality TV show. My brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. There is no way we are going to allow a con artist to take over the conservative movement and Donald Trump is a con artist. Con artist on the record adult statements from adults who of course, of course, have gone pretty silent on this. But there is a Republican who actually just jumped into challenge. Trump's paths to the Republican nomination of former governor former federal prosecutor Republican party veteran who served as counsel, the House Judiciary committee is we just mentioned and while it is very early. He clearly has some in the party nervous rushing to change. How delegates are awarded to protect Donald Trump. And he has the large twenty twenty democratic field grinning over some political science like this sitting presidents often lose after facing serious primary challenges if they are bruised enough on their way to the nomination Bill. Well, joins me now, a former governor former US attorney point way President Reagan and a current candidate running against Donald Trump for the twenty twenty Republican party nomination. Thanks for being here. Thank you. All right. My pleasure. Why do you think you have a chance at actually becoming the nominee and stopping Donald Trump who's the sitting? So I kind of think the facts are on my side. You know, they say in the law, if the facts are on your side, the pound on the facts if the laws on your side pound on the law of neither one is on your side pound on the table. I don't have to pound on the table. I can pound on the facts and today's four hundred prosecutors saying that they agree with me that the facts in volume two of the mullahs report constitute criminal obstruction of Justice by President Donald Trump, which is what they said that helps you talk about that. What is the case in your view for Donald Trump obstructing Justice? If Republicans are emphasizing that's your party. Whether it wasn't a chargeable conspiracies. Well, there was I mean, I think it's clear that my old friend Bill bar said to my old friend, Bob Muller. I'm not gonna let you charge this guy. If you do I'm going to squash it so Muller was left with no records. But. A set out all the evidence, which he did. But to say we decided not to make a federal prosecute of judgment. The what the three hundred or four hundred prosecutor said today is if you read the principles of federal prosecution which governed charging decisions this is a clear case for obstruction of Justice under those principles. It's not even close many of them said so. In your view. How do you convince the Republican primary voters that that's the issue? They should care about because I just showed the numbers if anything they're turning against that argument right now. Well, you know years a long time in national politics. And sometimes there's a sober second thought of the community and things seep into the water table as it were. And that that could well happen. I also think that you know, I've been one who've been agreeing with Steny Hoyer and others that impeachment might not be a wise thing to do right now. Because the president might not get convicted because of not sixty seven votes in the Senate, and then he would declare victory just before the election. I don't know this stuff is pretty tough and Bill bar essentially daring congress to hold him in contempt of congress, which was article three of impeachment against Richard Nixon that I worked on back in one thousand nine hundred seventy four that's tough stuff. It may be they'll you look at you look at the way bar is acting. That is pushing you closer towards being open to impeachment something, I think it deserves a reexamination the I word, and I've been I've been against it everything I've read is that you have not supported impeachment up until there's no no that. That's right. I mean a year ago, I thought maybe, but as we got closer I thought it was bad for political reasons not for legal reasons. But if the president and the AG are simply going to thumb their nose at congress and say, we're not gonna play. And that's what the president says he says we're not going to comply with any subpoenas because they're partisan. They're democrats. Remember, we hate them. That's what the press is say it's clear to me. He's not going to join issue on any substantive issue. He just wants to interfere with the ordinary workings of the constitution. And that's that's quintessential impeachable offense. So you have to rethink that. So you are open to impeachment now. Well, I think it needs a little rethinking in view of the brazenness of the response by both the president and. Yeah. My friend Bill bar, it seems it seems you is veteran from DOJ. It seems to Jay's a little bit like the CIA in American life where if you don't have to think about it. It kinda receives and then when America's spending a lot of time debating it. It's usually a sign that something's up that was the case in Watergate. It's certainly a lot of Americans feel right now. And so with that in mind the question of what does it take for people to stand up career prosecutors career civil servants? You did something that so many people are calling on certain Trump officials to do. Now, I wanna take a look at sound from you. This was in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight March twenty ninth when you resigned from very senior position in the Justice department in protest over the then attorney general's conduct. Let's take a look at the flashback. I resigned on March twenty nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight effective immediately because I had come to the conclusion that the tenure Mr. Meese as head of the department was having and would continue to have as long as he held that office a pronounced negative impact. Upon the department. The question is whether Mr. Meese is taking actions that he knows you're going to redound to the financial benefit of his friend. And I suggest that he did. So he. Is that important part of your public service that people should look to is what's different from you. And Trump you can't stay in office in the Justice department. If above you things are going on that you feel are inconsistent with the rule of law. If people above you were saying, let's have a government of men and not have lost. You have to resign. And so I did. Succinctly put let me talk to you a little bit about you'll were platform. You are pro choice, you're pro same sex marriage, your four legalizing pot your four rejoining the Paris climate agreement, and you're a big critic of of Donald Trump at what point do you have to convince Republican primary voters that you're in the right primary. I think some of those issues are going to grow bigger. I honestly know that climate change is not everybody's favourite issue. But it's very serious, and it's not a hoax and President Trump has a one word slogan against it hoax. It's like wall and immigration, but he doesn't wanna face the facts. And I think over time that sort of thing is going to become more evident, and what's that gonna mean to the millennials and the gen Xers just level headed people? They're going to have to come to terms with the fact that our shorelines are going to be rearranged is going to be no more snow in the White Mountains all the mountain glaciers. Gonna melt three hundred million people are going to be without water. You know, I'm not making this up. No, no. You're not on the politics before let you go. What state would be your best shot to win in the primary? My favorite state to win is the great state of New Hampshire live freer die baby. And you'd think if you if you get closer win there, then everyone in the Republican party gives you a second. Look. Well, I hope they'll give me a second. Look, maybe before then. But certainly New Hampshire has a lot of resin and send the Trump people tried to cancel the New Hampshire. First in the nation primary this year that didn't get too far in New Hampshire. So that shows you that not everybody always doing what Mr. Trump wants. And does that show you that? Some Trump's allies are scary. If they'd rather cancel an election and hold on. I don't know what they're scared of probably not me. But they sure don't want an election governor Bill. Well, thank you for coming on the first time. We'll have you back if you'll rejoin us great fit a quick break. And then an important story about a major boycott for Donald Trump as Democrats probe the Puerto Rico hurricane response of this administration next. Today. House Democrats doing four investigation into the Trump administration's very controversial hurricane response discussing Donald Trump's in their view, quote, abominable handling of storms that devastated Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands in two thousand seventeen here early three thousand people died as a result of that. Catastrophic. Storm many Americans still grappling with food shortages across the island. This where I get my water ago. A few cans some to take the big wants to take showers sell. It'll be food and to have this is where our pay my taxes doing all of this year. You know, and I was thinking about I deserve it they help. And then helping me, you know, I don't want to beg, you know, more. They Bill to provide disaster funds nationwide has also stalled President Trump clashing with Democrats in congress about whether how to provide this financial assistance to Puerto Rico Democrats now given the Trump administration a two week deadline to respond to the investigative demands. For documents to get to the bottom of what went wrong a story that we will stay on. And before we go tonight when we come back, you're going to hear what Tiger Woods just said while accepting the medal of freedom at the White House. And that was some White House festivities. I mentioned we've been keeping an eye on for you this hour. President Trump just honored golf legend. Tiger Woods presenting him with the presidential medal of freedom the highest civilian honor. To have the support that I've had for all these years in everyone. Here has seen and been with me for some of you for my entire life. You've seen the good in the bad the highs and lows, and I would not be in this position without all of your help. Tiger Woods opening up about that honor. He is the fourth call forever receive the presidential medal of freedom that does it for us. Yoyo? Chris Simms here. Download my podcasts. Chris Simms unbuttoned. We talk about everything football. It's available on all platforms that you get your podcast. And if you wanna look at us and check it out and person, YouTube dot com slash NBC sports.

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ITT Sound Off: Corruptly

In The Thick

19:57 min | 1 year ago

ITT Sound Off: Corruptly

"Well, welcome to Friday. It's in the thick. I might ENA Horsa. And I'm Julia RIC. That's right. And today, it's a special report addition of ITT sound. But there was no goals scored. Okay. Here we go. I almost read the whole thing mighty I stayed up very late, and I fell asleep with a laptop on my show. That's so adorable. I was flying on an airline that I'm not gonna mention. But let's just say I'm really glad that we finally took off in that we landed safely that kind of situation. So I actually I haven't read it, but I've been watching and seeing and taking it in. And also I was at an airport as it was kind of dropping and watching who is interested in who wasn't. But here's the thing before it finally dropped attorney general William bar gave a press conference a news conference. It was kind of like his like, okay seconds summary of what this report was all about in. This is what he said indeed as the report states, quote, the investigation did not identify evidence that any US. A person knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA's interference operation, unquote. Put another way the special counsel found no collusion by any Americans in IRA's illegal activities. Right. So love the fact that he continued to say, no collusion. No collusion. No collusion. I mean, I. You know, my my big takeaways like, wow. If you are a white man of privilege, and you are in a position of power you will be treated with kid gloves. It's very sad. I think we all feel really shaken. But basically, it's like, yes, he did really bad things. But we decided that like, you know, we're gonna. Yeah. He's got that privilege thing going on. So we're going to be kind of nice to him mich-. But can I just say one thing about you can say many things going to totally me because attorney general bar winning mentions the IRA it's the internet research agency, the Russian company, but I kept thinking of the Irish Republican Army Irish Republican Army was the IRA. Oh, my God or individual retirement accounts. So I had to get over that. I'm right there with you. Here's the thing. You're absolutely right. It was almost like there were crimes, but they were no crimes, and basically Trump and his base. They're doing victory lab. He actually did the press before the report, which I find it to be so diplomas, no one had it in their hand. And he was also basically talking for Trump. I don't know if you remember the point where he said that well, you know, Trump was going through tough time because of the campaign, and he and that media with that speculation, and he was very frustrated especially since he was starting his. Office. I'm like you were literally talking for Trump as the attorney general of the United States. And that's the part that I'm having major problems with you know, to me this notion that Muller's and his team believed that it would be unfair to accuse Trump of obstruction when he wouldn't be able to stand trial while he was in office, and quote unquote, have an opportunity to clear his name. That party is like really fascinating. Yeah. You know? I mean, it's it's like so many people, and I was always not necessarily on that team had great expectations about Muller, and by the way. So let me just take this critical point like they had such great expectations. That mother was going to save the day. And I was like he ran the FBI. So remember kind of where he's coming from. And in this sense. It kind of makes it feel like he also stood in his white male privilege and just said like, you know, I'm not going to do this on the other hand. There is the other argument that if they had made a charge than it would have been you know, it would not have necessarily been provable. And this would have created more of a problem but bar bar, but what is up with bar? I feel like I'm I'm in Michael Mbo bad Garcia Marquez like novel or in some buying American banana Republic, I'm still stuck with the. Fact that bar spoke for the president yesterday like gave the president his defense. Yeah. Well, this is what Trump one right? He wanted to turn general who is going to be his attorney general affluence just be clear. What that means? We have an attorney general who is working and representing the president of the United States where kind of leads us to the next point, which is, you know, so volume two so did you get to volume to Julio, dude? I got to page like I was telling Pablo and the coal our producers that I got to pay like three eighty something. Sleep. And then I felt like I when I woke up this morning. I was like all I gotta keep reading it. So yeah, I did get to volume two. Okay. So and that's the obstruction of Justice. Which is actually I think the more interesting part? This is crazy Maria in the report, there's actually at least ten of obstructions eases. But anyway, in may two thousand seventeen sessions toll Trump that deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein had just appointed Muller as special counsel. I guess there's a queue of dramatic music right here. Because according to notes from Jodi haunt who sessions then chief of staff, according to those notes Trump slump back in his chair. And then said this oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my presidency. I'm fucked, and then he continued that with but I did nothing wrong. I don't know why. I just said that I do not recall did I just say that I just fucked. All sorry didn't mean to which you know, I guess under normal circumstances. Would mean that you did something really bad, and you're really afraid that you're about to be found out. I mean, that's like kind of normally normal people. Right. That would be the reaction that they have according to the report the Trump campaign actively seat to get damaging information of the Clinton campaign. I mean, this is the part that has been kind of in my brain. It's like you said it. Yeah. So again, like I said, I don't on our last episode. So we don't have the meeting between Trump and Putin and Putin writing the million dollar check and giving it to Trump and putting it in his pocket, but Jesus Christ. What more do you need then this? But it would be interesting to see I will tell you this Russia if you're listening. I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press like this is the part that really to me will your. Yeah. You know, that only guys go actually congresswoman from Texas was on MSNBC this morning. And she just said, you know, how can you ignore? What is right in front of us. How can you ignore? What is right in front of us. And it's just like the man said it, but he gets this past. So we do know other things Trump pressured Komi, and then fired him Trump attempted to sessions and tried to fire Muller. So although mother. Declined to charge. There were in fact, several attempts of obstruction the report states in volume two on the issue of obstruction that quote, while this report does not conclude that the president committed a crime it also does not exonerate him. While I want that kind of Justice. Yo it's like can I have this? Please. And I have just of Justice number one where they say we're also determined not to make a quote traditional prosecutorial judgment. Will we all want that kind of judgment to like, yo can we get this too? And here's the other thing about all this, and obviously volume to the report dives deep and saying why they couldn't indicted sitting president, blah, blah, blah, and I don't wanna get into the technical weeds about that. But it's because he couldn't defend himself. Yeah. What was fascinating about Trump? Mr. like, I have the greatest memory in the world on the smartest guy. My I q is so high. I remember everything when he did the written answers to the questions. He didn't really remember he used a lot of like, I do not recall or I do not remember come on. It's like the classic Oliver North. I do not recall or that's what everyone does. So he Mr. Trump defending himself, whatever he's wanting to do is basically doing the same. Same legal white man bullshit that everyone's been doing for like decades. Well, that's why I think this is difficult because as they say the report is in black and white, and we're seeing in fact help black and white or treated because the report also says that it cannot say that he didn't commit obstruction of Justice. I know I know there's this point in the report saying third we consider whether to evaluate the conduct. We investigated under the Justice manual standards governing prosecution and declaration decisions. You're like, okay what? But we determined not to apply an approach that could potentially result in a judgment that the president committed crimes? Wow. He gets treated really. Well. It's awesome. I thought of Gadi I thought of John Godley I thought of Teflon Don I used to cover him. I thought of the fact that all of the NYPD, and you know, they knew how he operated they knew how he spoke. He spoke in code. He walked on this. Treat you know, where there no one could record what he was saying. That's how he did his deals until people to do. It's like we're watching. We see this person in action. We see everything that they were doing and yet and Republicans standing by as we see that a hostile foreign government is actively influencing and we have a mob boss acting like president. And I guess that leads us to this other point. Yeah, the politics. This is now going to become a huge political battle Republicans, obviously reading reading the report in a different way as opposed to Democrats the GOP in the White House. They're doing victory lap. And then you have Representative Jerry Nadler of New York here at announce at the house is gonna call Muller to testify report makes clear that the president refused to be interviewed by the special counsel and refused to provide written answers to follow up questions based thirteen volume two makes clear. His associates destroyed evidence relevant to the Russian investigation page ten volume one the report concluded there was substantial evidence in quotes that President Trump attempted to prevent an investigation into his campaign and his own conduct paid seventy six page seventy eight page ninety page one fifty seven volume two. That is why I formally requested that special counsel Muller testified before the House Judiciary committee as soon as possible. So we can get some answers to these critical questions. Because we clearly can't believe what attorney journal bar and that was Nadler speaking on Thursday and then on Friday morning, Nadler, subpoenaed, the phone unredacted Muller report. So this is going to very likely wind up in the court. So we've only just begun as the carpenters say and they're famous seventy song. You know, the whole question now is so what what do the Democrats do? Again, quoting Veroni guys go out because I happen to have caught her. You know, I'm so happy that I saw two she was great. Because here's the thing. You know, I'm on as you know, MSNBC a lot. But it's interesting sometimes it's like, they don't call me. To talk about this kind of stuff, and I'm like. But I have an opinion. I host a political podcast. I was really happy to see a Latina who happens to be a member of congress, and she was talking to someone from her district a worker who is like I'm trying to teach my kids like basic values, and how do you teach them basic values? And so it gets to values question. So I think that. I understand the politics of it. I really do. But I'm not a politician. This is where I'm just gonna put on my I'm an American citizen, and I believe in the rule of law, and I do think that congress has to do their job here. Let the chips fall where they may. But this is history. But can I say one thing you're not going to like it? I think we're overreacting a little bit to this Russia influencing the election saying it goes back to to this whole notion that the American people are stupid, I understand. But it's like this is the new reality. And we have to have a more critical digital audience that can see through this BS people think that Hillary Clinton lost because the Russians influence the election. If that's what people think Democrats aren't going to win and twenty twenty. I'm just saying Maria. That's all I'm saying, so. This is complicated because she was a complicated candidate. You. Gotta pause verse. Second I totally 'cause I'm trying to take it in. But you know, what I also saw on the ground what Putin's meddling looked like very early on. Specifically this whole interference in black America, black activism and black activists, which was don't vote don't vote. That's the way you. That's the way you show your power don't vote, and it was just like and by the way as young radical in college while I wasn't even a citizen. So I was not into electoral politics. But I think across the board. There is a feeling like no matter what if you're doing some kind of political activism you vote. So I do think that Russia's Medellin because all they want to do is basically destroy and take control, and I don't you? And I think very differently about this. Totally don't agree with. Yeah. No. And I'm really I'm pissed off at them. I mean, we know from this report that to agencies of the Russia, the Russian government interfered in the most important of the democratic processes in the United States of America. So the IRA the internet research agency manipulated the attention of the public through Botts and through social media. We know this and the intelligence agency GRU, they did in fact break the law and hacked into the Clinton campaign, and you and I see that very very differently, then let's teach Americans how to distinguish from that. Let's begin to take ownership of that. And not feel like we're going to be is Lee manipulated. It's like this is the reality Maria people actually think that campaigns aren't going to follow this. This is the new political reality of campaigns. And I appreciate to ourselves to take control of this and not feel so like, oh, Russia influence the elections. That's the reason. Now, it's not there's some deeper deeper issues. Well, you know, if they hadn't been doing this, so overtly got, you know, we wouldn't know right. We wouldn't have known. Yeah. And by the way, when I say that you know, who I get really pissed off at his our so called intelligence agencies that were so busy finding threats with Muslims instead of seeing the threats that were happening with the Russian influence one and actually doing shit, like not just say, no, we're little bit worry and two with white supremacists. Get to there. All right. That's I'll go with you there. I agree with you there. I get really pissed off at the intelligence agencies. And that's where I begin to feel like we'll sue who is protecting what? And I think we're going to have to see where this all lands. You know, I'm still kind of processing it. I do have to ask you something because do you play golf? I do. Okay. So I don't know what this means. But governor weld who is. Challenging Donald Trump as a Republican. He said Muller gave Donald Trump a mulligan. If you play golf you'll understand and I was like, I don't under-. I don't what the hell is that? All right, a mulligan. So you get on on the t box, right? Where you're about to hit the golf ball. And let's say you you hit the golf ball. And it goes into the trees, and it doesn't go where you can play it. Technically that shot counts. Again because redo. I mean, it's called the Molly. I I don't know exactly where it comes from. But according to legend all these golfing tales, it's about some Canadian golfer named Molly. And there's another guy from jersey name mulligan. So whatever it's this sort of redo has a history, and golf, I got a mulligan. Because the first time I ever hit a golf ball. I was wearing heels. So I do know what that is. I do want to say that Bill weld the Republican called Donald Trump a one man crimewave, boom, boom. Okay. All right. Well, that's it. We could have gone on and on and on and on. 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Mon. 10/28  Biden Is Open to a Super PAC

Primary Ride Home

17:02 min | 10 months ago

Mon. 10/28 Biden Is Open to a Super PAC

"Welcome to the election ride home for Monday October Twenty eight th twenty nineteen I'm your host Chris Ends with a summary of election news today Biden is now open to take on his campaign and now a segment limited to three minutes catch up to speed on Friday federal judge ruled on two key issues one the house judiciary committee can have access to the unredacted Muller report here's what you missed today from the campaign trail it was more like we the donors and quote well again reading from the post quote Kate Betting Field Biden's deputy campaign manager released a statement Thursday bank so Biden's best option maybe to take this pack money take the political hit for it and then have you know a lot of money to keep spending who reelect this corrupt president and quote according to the Post work is now underway to create a Super Pac that will support the biden campaign now here's a quick refresher he would have rejected outside money if he had run in two thousand sixteen it was tempting to play the game because we would be getting such a late start and for the first time three and his cash on hand is below that of several of his rivals if he makes it to the general election he would face trump who has an incredible amount of money in the afternoon saying that Biden will reform campaign finance if he is president but in the meantime he will open the door to outside money as president Joe Biden will else emerge on the November DNC debate and more details emerge on the December DNC debate hills resignation sets up an unexpected special our donors giving directly to a candidate are capped at two thousand eight hundred dollars per person per candidate per election because Biden has a lot of I today Joe Biden has opened the door to taking money from a super PAC this is a reversal from his super PACs betting field wrote until we have these badly needed reforms we will see more than a billion dollars in spending by trump and his allies in California a summary of the unofficial Republican debate over the weekend and do Democratic primary voters want a new candidate. I'm in all my years of campaigning I knew there was big money out there for me Biden wrote but I also knew people were sick of it we the people didn't ring so true anymore or less a quick update on the trump impeachment inquiry and other election-related stuff in the world of the sitting president also I hope you enjoy this mellow music all right owners to give money to the Super Pac which would then in turn donate it to the Biden campaign and well that's why so many people want campaign finance reform also high-dollar donors it's likely he has a pool of people who want to give them more money but they can't because they've already hit that limit the creation of a super PAC would allow those is to remove private money from our federal elections he will advocate for a constitutional amendment to overturn citizens united an end the era of unbridled spending so you might ask why by needs money when he's doing so well in the polls well he is in fourth place in terms of fundraising among the Democrats in q here's position and actually a rather long held position reading from an article in The Washington Post by Matt visor quote Biden wrote in his two thousand seventeen book the what was necessary to begin impeachment the judge said it is not at the same time the judge ordered the Justice Department to comply with house requests by October into there really is an impeachment proceeding going on right now despite no floor vote in the House that letter thing is a procedural issue where Republicans had insisted that a floor magically appear on Wednesday in big boxes carried by interns no the Justice Department has already filed an appeal and filed a second motion requested media to produce not just the unredacted report but also the underlying interviews and other material collected by Muller and his team now we'll all of the stuff a stay of the judge's order to hand over the Muller Materials Okay next item the Republican National Committee held a vote of support for 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Courts not playing along with Trump's slowdown strategy

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Courts not playing along with Trump's slowdown strategy

"The Rachel Maddow show. We did not Mr. non MSNBC today. I learned that President Trump's campaign chairman is a lawyer, or at least he was a lawyer until today, you are forgiven. If you never really thought of Paul Manafort as a real legal eagle, but today, I learned he was a lawyer when I learned he was formerly disbarred in the district of Columbia because of his multiple felony convictions for crimes, quote, involving moral turpitude Paul Manafort turns out had been admitted to the bar in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine he was sentenced earlier this year to seven and a half years in federal prison for multiple felonies today CNN reports that after his initial imprisonment in Virginia. He was then moved to a prison in eastern, Pennsylvania where he was initially process to start his federal sentence CNN reports, and we have confirmed that Manafort has now settled. Into sort of his forever home at F C I Loretta which is the federal Correctional Institute at Loretto, Pennsylvania, which is about halfway between Harrisburg, and Pittsburgh fun fact about FCA Loretto used to be a Catholic seminary. Now, what is home to Donald J Trump presidential campaign chairman inmate number three five two zero seven zero one six. Now, there is the possibility that Mr. Manafort will be moved out of Loretto, so he can be closer to his next round of trial proceedings. You'll recall that Mr. Manafort was also indicted on New York state charges right after he got his federal sentence. But for now at least he is at the old seminary in western PA. And today he was disbarred in the district of Columbia. Of course, the president's longtime personal lawyer also reported to federal prison this week. He also got his number. Michael Cohen is now federal inmate number eight six zero six eight six zero six seven dash zero five four. I don't know what kind of access Mr. Cohen has while he's in prison to the news of the world. But it's interesting to think about him going to prison this particular week, right? I mean, we don't know if Michael Cohen right now is aware of the news that Donald Trump junior was just subpoenaed to testify to the Senate intelligence committee. He is reportedly planning to defy that subpoena and face legal consequences for doing. So I mean does Michael Cohen know that Michael Cohen has just gone to prison. And remember Michael Cohen has just gone to prison in part for arranging to pay hush money to two women right before the presidential election. Donald Trump junior is one of the people who actually signed the checks that paid for that whole hush money scheme. But Donald Trump junior is at large Michael Cohen is in prison. Michael Cohen is also in prison now for lying to the intelligence committees about the Trump Tower Moscow real estate deal that he worked to arrange the route the campaign while the president was publicly maintaining that he had no business deals in Russia. Well this week. Donald Trump junior is facing that subpoena to come back and testify again to the Senate intelligence committee reportedly specifically about Trump Tower Moscow because of perceived problems with his testimony on that same subject before the same committees. I mean, inmate number eight six zero six seven dash zero five four the man on your left is in federal prison right now for felonies that he committed that did not benefit himself. Right. The lies about the Moscow real estate dealings with the Kremlin and the scheme to pay off the women before the election. Those were crimes that did not benefit. Michael Cohen, those were primes that benefited Donald. Trump and the Trump campaign and the Trump family business. The president son literally signed the checks in the hush money scheme and his testimony and Trump Tower Moscow appears to hue very closely to what Michael Cohen said about the Trump Tower Moscow plan for which Michael Cohen was sent to prison. So I mean. Has been awkward time right now in the president's closest circles right now, right? But one of the things that Michael Cohen testified to congress about before he went to prison were these financial statements that he says were used by the Trump organization by the president himself when seeking loans from banks and as a means of describing the president's overall financial health while he was trying to get favorable treatment and his various insurance policies. Michael Cohen handed over those documents to congress and bluntly told congress in his testimony that these financial statements were false representations of the president's financial status. He told congress bluntly that these financial statements were used to commit Bank fraud and insurance fraud. Well today. Interesting turn of events. Back on March. Twentieth after Michael Coen's testimony, including about those financial statements. The oversight committee chairman Elijah Cummings followed up on Coen's testimony by formally requesting. A whole boatload of documents about Trump from the firm that prepared those financial statements on Trump's behalf the firm, which is an accounting firm called czars, their initial responses very measured and very cautious. When they first got this big document requests from Elijah Cummings. They simply said Missouri's believes strongly in the ethical and professional rules and regulations that govern our industry, our work and our client interactions soon. Ms ours got their legal Ps and qs in order and sent back this to Elijah Cummings lawyer letter from them telling congressman Cummings, quote, as I'm sure you can appreciate Mazari's cannot voluntarily turn over the documents sought in the request emphasis on voluntarily because the firm went onto helpfully points out that were there. They're a validly issued an enforceable subpoena telling them to hand over the documents. Well, then they would never choice then they wouldn't be voluntarily handing the stuff over. Then there'd be no problem and so- behold, a subpoena was born and what happened upon the issuance of that friendly subpoena to masseurs was interesting. The president himself hired a whole new boatload of lawyers who are specifically charged with trying to keep his financial history and his taxes secret and those newly hired lawyers got right to work. They contacted Missouri's the accounting firm and told MS ours that is ours should not respond to the subpoena from congress then within a week. The president's new lawyers who've been hired to keep his finances and his taxes secret. They filed a lawsuit by the president the president personally suing his accounting firm to try to stop them from complying with the subpoena this subpoena that orders them to handover his financial documents. Including the financial statements statements that firm prepared that the president's lawyer said under oath he saw used to commit Bank fraud and insurance fraud. The president sues the accounting firm to try to stop the firm from handing over information about him. And he sues alleged Cummings chairman of the oversight committee to try to stop him from demanding those documents. Now that lawsuit the president filed here is not a thing of beauty. As a vile legal accounts. Elijah Cummings did agree once that lawsuit was filed that he would delay. The subpoenas deadline ordering that accounting firm to hand stuff over he would allow for a delay. They would not have to meet the subpoenas deadline to submit those documents while this lawsuit was being heard. So that's what the president's paying for with all these new private lawyers right who he has hired at personal expense to try to keep his taxes and his finances secret. I mean that lawsuit that they filed at least buys Trump's sometime it at least gets this things into this thing into the court said at least slows everything down, right? Maybe he can drag this out forever now. Right. Maybe not today. The judge that's assigned to hear that case said, you know, what I actually wanna go fast here next week was supposed to be an initial round of stuff on there. Maybe being a preliminary injunction in the Mazaar case. And then maybe another round of stuff on maybe they're being a permanent injunction in the Missouri's case. And then maybe after that another round of stuff on the merits of the case. Maybe they'd eventually get to the merit someday. Down the road that had been the initial plan but today. No, the judge said Nope, there is no need for that kind of drawn out schedule. Let's do all those things altogether. All on the same day all next week. And then the judge said he'd go ahead and rule right than in there that day, quote, these soul question before the court is is the house oversight committee's issuance of a subpoena Toomas ours for financial records of President Trump and various associated entities. A valid exercise of legislative power that soul question before the court is full. Briefed and the court can discern no benefit from an additional round of legal arguments. Nor is there any obvious need to delay ruling on the merits to allow for development of the factual record. And so bottom line, there's not going to be another round of arguments and weeks of competing, motions and mishmash here. This is the judge in the case saying, you know, what I ready. Let's do this thing. Let's do the whole thing injunctions merits. Let's do it all, and you know, what let's do it all on Tuesday all that day. And then I'll rule. Which means if the president's best hope here was to slow everything down as much as possible for as long as possible by getting it into the courts, well, getting into the courts doesn't necessarily guarantee that it's gummed up forever. Sometimes the courts decide they don't wanna go slow. I should mention that the president's new raft of lawyers that are just working to keep his taxes and his finances. Secret, I should mention that they also filed a basically identical lawsuit trying to block Deutsche Bank and another band called Capital One from responding to their own subpoenas that they got from the intelligence committee from the financial services committee. According to the New York Times were it not for that lawsuit that the president filed against those banks on Monday of this week Deutsche Bank was poised to hand over to congress to the intelligence committee in the financial services committee, a huge trove of financial documents about their dealings with the president including years worth of material from his federal tax returns. So they were poised to hand that stuff over on Monday. They did not have that stuff over on Monday because that deadline in that subpoena was delayed because of this lawsuit that the president filed saw the president's private lawsuit. It did delay that at least for a few days. Honestly that now. That the twin to that lawsuit at the one that Missouri's now that it just got put on warp speed by a federal judge who appears to not want to play along with the delay of game strategy. I mean, we have to see if that one blows up fast now too. I mean, we're we're in this real interesting moment. And I think it's easy to get overwhelmed by following every picky detail of every different fight and the different rhetoric on both sides. And I think it's easy to get a room because of the sheer scope of the conflict, the sheer number of points of confrontation between honestly, the White House and the molar investigation between the White House and congressional oversight. Right. We entered into this thunderdome this week of the president and the White House saying, we will block all subpoenas related to Robert Muller or anything else, we will block all testimony, we will assert executive privilege over everything. Robert Muller did. Right. And each of these is own interesting drama. But I think because there are so many points of conflict right now because the assertions by the White House by the president are so broad this stonewall on everything they can speak come common wisdom that however and sustainable this. Posture might be for the White House in the long run. Surely, they can use this posture to delay everything for a long time for months for years, definitely until after the twenty twenty election. I understand why it's tempting to feel that way because the amount of things they're fighting on feel so overwhelming. But that may not be true. I mean to the extent this stuff is headed to court. Judges don't have to be slow. Some of them are already saying they're not going to be today in the Roger stone case the federal judge in DC who was hearing that case just walked right up to what? Otherwise looks like a big legal Gordian knot and she just cut right through it. Roger stone in his case had demanded that he be allowed to see the full unredacted Muller reports to help him in preparing his defense. There certainly elements of the mullahs report that seem to pertain to the charges against him. While the prosecutors, and the Roger stone case said they objected to that they didn't want him to get the unredacted report, the judge who is our trading in that case, right? The judge who was overseeing that case in those disputes said in order to decide this particular dispute sheet need to see the material that's being fought over here. She said that she would need to see the unredacted Mullery. Herself. At least the parts that might be relevant to Roger stone's trial, and the prosecutor said no judge now, we wouldn't be able to do that for you. We can't give you the unredacted report judge to which the judge just today said, oh, yeah. You can't give that to me. How about I give you a court order that tells you to do that. To which the prosecutors today said. Well in that case. And so ordered now the Justice department has by Monday to give judge Amy Berman Jackson in DC the Muller report, including the bits that are redacted for her to review specifically, she wants all the reductions revealed from those portions of the report that relate to defendant stone, and or the dissemination of materials including but not limited to pages forty one through sixty five of volume one of the mullahs report. Now, we know from what we can see Muller's report. And the way the reductions are coded that the reductions that she's now going to get to see the stuff that is blacked out to us that will not be blocked out to her and includes all the different categories of reductions that they made the one that's labelled investigative techniques, which I think basically means intelligence sources and methods also personal privacy. Reductions also grand jury reductions also harm to an ongoing matter which in this case is probably a bunch of stuff that relates directly to the case against stone. I mean, we now know based on today's court order from judge Jackson that this judge is about to become one of only a few people in the country who have seen everything that's in Muller's report on on all of this stuff. And honestly, I have to tell you. This is likely only the first federal judge who's gonna get the unredacted Miller report, another judge in the same district in DC has signaled that he may also get the full report minus all of its reductions as part of the freedom of information law lawsuits that are being fought out now by different entities that are trying to get the whole thing. So. Listen, all of these fights are interesting, and you can I mean, you can follow any of them at any level of detail that you want. They're all interesting. They all though, have two sides and the courts may move faster than you think when it comes to blocking the financial subpoenas from congress, right? That are likely to produce tons of financial information about the president and also tons of his federal tax information. The treasury department deciding not to hand over the president's taxes to the chairman of the ways and means committee despite a law that says they have two that's about to become its own legal fight. We expect the ways and means chairman Ritchie Neil to announce tomorrow. If he's taking the administration directly to court for defying that law that says the IRS has to give him the president's taxes. We've actually got some new news on that coming up in just a minute that you were going to want to hear I believe we've got this exclusively tonight. Nobody else's reported. It. You should also know that the financial and tax materials that the president is trying so hard to block with the standoff involving the IRS and with these lawsuits in federal court, even even all those fights haven't stopped at least Deutsche Bank already, and we think also the president's insurance broker already from handing over subpoenaed financial documents and potentially tax documents already to New York state authorities even as he's fighting to try to keep that stuff secret through all the other means he can some of it's already been handed over to a New York state. New York state legislature is moving ahead with legislation that will allow them to convey all of the president's state tax returns to congressional committees, including his real estate and business taxes. At least one federal judge is now reviewing what was redacted from Robert Muller's report, a second federal judge may soon. Follow nothing is stuck right? Everything is moving and just because fight has been declared does not mean that a stalemate is inevitable, or if there is a short stalemate that it will inevitably inevitably become a long one. But in the midst of all of this, and it is a real push me pull you at this point. And does not stay stuff is happening in the middle of this. Here is here's my question. I think it's answerable and the house intelligence committee chairman is here in part tonight. Because I'm hoping that he can answer this. Regardless of whether or not, you think President Trump should be impeached, regardless of whether or not you think the US Senate would ever vote to remove President Trump were he impeached in the house, regardless of whether or not you think the Democrats would find it politically advantageous or descent to mount an impeachment effort against the president in the house of representatives, regardless of what you think about all of that stuff. Specifically, here's my question. Would it help congressional Democrats get some stuff that they otherwise couldn't get if they opened up formal impeachment proceedings in the house would opening an impeachment inquiry open legal doors for them to get stuff. They otherwise couldn't get would it gives them a legal advantage in trying to obtain. Some of the information that the White House is fighting them on getting the White House is asserting executive privilege in some blanket way over everything that Robert Mueller. Did right? That's one of the remarkable revelation. Of this week's news cycle. Right. It's amazing that they are trying to do that now in the long run, and they're gonna get away with it. I don't know in short and medium-term they're going to use that it seems to try to block access to the rest of Muller's report that we haven't seen to block access to the underlying evidence for molars report that nobody's seen. They will use it to try to block not just Don Mcgann, but all Muller witnesses from testifying or from handing over documents related to molars inquiry. They will use that assertion of privilege to try to block Muller himself from testifying. Okay. Well, procedurally would it help congress defeat those efforts by the White House? Would it help them? Get those witnesses and those materials in that testimony. If Democrats in the house took the formal stop of opening an impeachment inquiry. Does having an impeachment inquiry open and ongoing give them more legal leverage to obtain those things. If so why wouldn't they just formally opened an impeachment inquiry, regardless of all of the other things that impeachment down the road. Might mean. Why wouldn't you just start that proceeding? I mean, there's supposedly this political worry that the Republicans will get some advantage in two thousand twenty from saying the Democrats want to impeach Trump. So therefore you can't open up an impeachment angry. Hey, surprise, what Republicans are going to say that anyway, whether or not the Democrats are technically formerly doing it. The Republicans are already trying to get political advantage. The president is already trying to get political advantage saying the Democrats are coming after I'm trying to impeach him. So that's that's baked in. There's no way that you can avoid that attack from the Republicans by not formally opening an inquiry, but when legal observers say that opening an inquiry opening an impeachment inquiry would give the house more tools to actually get the stuff they're seeking that it would disadvantage the White House, and they're now ramped up ongoing efforts to block all forms of congressional oversight or those legal observers, right? And if so is that the grounds on which Democrats might see clear to proceed to that step and open up an impeachment inquiry. Not because they're sure that they're going to impeach Trump. Let alone remove him from office. But only because they need to start that inquiry in order to get access to the information testimony and documents they would otherwise be getting where the president and the White House. Not fighting them the way they are. Intelligence committee chairman Adam Schiff is now suggesting that may be what is about to happen here. And he joins us live next. Hi, it's Katy Tur want to keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go subscribe to the MSN be daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed or in this unprecedented. Era of news, text MSNBC, two six six eight six six to subscribe. Was barely a year ago that congressman Adam Schiff, the top democrat on the intelligence committee was writing in the New York Times that Democrats should not be considering impeaching President Donald Trump. Well, this week congressman Schiff now chair of the intelligence committee, and who is now faced with an across the board fight all the subpoenas stonewall effort from the White House. Now, congressman Schiff tells the Washington Post, quote, these continued acts of willful obstruction at new wait to those who have advocated impeachment in a fascinating interview with Greg Sargent at the post shift now says the case for impeachment will be weightier still if starting impeachment proceedings could allow congress to breakthrough White House obstruction in a way, they currently cannot if congress has legal right to the materials, they otherwise can't obtain will be strengthened if they formerly start in peach mint proceedings. This is one of the questions congressional Democrats are grappling with now. Regardless of how anybody might feel about the ultimate task of trying to impeach. The president literally setting that aside is an impeachment proceeding basically procedurally the path they need to go down. If the White House is gonna fight the way they are to block access to the Muller investigation and to block access to everything else on which the congress wants either to investigate or to exert oversight. Joining us now is congressman Adam Schiff, chairman of the house intelligence committee. This determine thank you so much for making time. Tonight's nice to see you who the C you am I right to characterize that shift in your position over time. You've been very articulate in the past about why it was not an appropriate time. And it wasn't appropriate circumstances to move on impeachment. The way I I hear you now is that you may think that impeachment proceedings might be sort of utilize might be helpful simply to to obtain information that you can't otherwise get when I wrote that up and that was over a year ago. I was urging that we wait and see what the results of the investigation are before we form a judgment, and I did. So because I thought we ought to know. Oh, what the evidence is. But also because if we had to take that extraordinary step, we should communicate. This is not something we're eager to do it something that were in fact reluctant to do. Now, we have the report and we are being prohibited. From getting the evidence behind that report. We'll even being barred at least for the moment from hearing from the man who did the investigation, Mr. Muller. And I think this does give weight to the those calling for impeachment because after obstructing the investigation and a potentially criminal way. Donald Trump is now obstructing congress as a legal matter. There are few discrete areas where it may make a difference in most of the document demands it shouldn't make a difference whether it's an impeachment proceeding, or it's an oversight preceding, you know, the claims of executive privilege, for example can be advanced in either preceding, but there are provisions like the grand jury provision exception for grand jury materials that make reference to a judicial proceeding. That was the basis in which those materials were made available to congress during Watergate. But there's also language in that provision. That says polymerase to a grand jury proceeding, which I think applies here. But it's possible that a court might find otherwise to me, though, the Justice department really shouldn't be able to maintain a position you can't indicted sitting president you can only impeach one. And by the way, we're not going to give you the evidence you would need until you begin an impeachment without knowing what the full evidence is. But if that argument were to prevail in court, I think yes, it would militate strongly into initiating a preceding if that's the only way we can overcome the White House's obstructionism. There's a matter that I want to try to disentangle with you. Because I think there's it's been it's being discussed more and more in the media. It's being discussed more and more in terms of this confrontation with the White House over what's happening to Muller's findings, and I think at sometimes being conflicted. You have now issued a subpoena to the Justice department for the unredacted. Mullahs report and for the underlying evidence and intelligence information that pertains to that report. But as I understand it you have also made a request to be briefed on the intelligence findings of Muller's investigation. Now, should we see those as two different requests? And how should we expect those two tracks to proceed if in fact, these are two different things, you they really are two different things. Although there's a lot of overlap, but roughly you could look at what the judiciary committee is doing as center around the second article of the Muller report the second section on obstruction. And we're focused on the first section, and that is all of the context with the Russians all of the potential counter intelligence problems and threats this investigation after all began as a counterintelligence investigation it then later became both counterintelligence and criminal. We still don't know what the counterintelligence findings are. We know from the report that he had embedded counter. Diligence FBI agents in his team at wrote their own reports back the headquarters, they're not in the Muller report. And we have a separate basis legal basis to get that information from the judiciary committee. There are statutes on point that say any intelligence matter must be given to the intelligence committee upon request their other statutes that say that we have to be kept currently informed of any significant intelligence or counterintelligence activity. There's a separate grand jury exception that says you can provide foreign intelligence and counterintelligence investigation to any counterintelligence officials that have responsibility here as we do. So we have independent basis for getting much of the same information. And then some that pertain to the counterintelligence findings and yet you haven't been getting it. And we haven't is the remedy there. To to take them to court is the remedy there. To pass a Bill is the remedy there too. Turn these requests into subpoenas. It's hard for me to see how the how the how the path here. Proceeds in terms of what leverage you have to obtain these things that you're saying by right in some cases by statute, you already should have gotten. You're absolutely right. In fact, we were getting intelligence briefings up until when Komi was fired, and then it stopped and that really is a violation of the legal requirements. You know, the remedies that we have a really the same as judiciary committee and the same as the ways and means committee they're violating the statute we can enforce it in court, but that takes time that really doesn't necessarily change in an impeachment proceeding where they can fight us. Likewise. But there is another remedy that. I think we really need to consider that may be even quicker than peach the preceding or the court proceeding and that is reviving Congress's inherent power of contempt. Something we utilized up until the nineteen thirties where we effect in effect. Do our own judicial proceeding in the congress have a little mini trial in the congress and hold people in contempt and responsible and compel their production without even going to court now used to be we imprisoned people, but we could also find them twenty five thousand dollars a day. Until they comply or some other number of that may be even swifter remedy if we need to embark on it, and we may have to congressman Adam Schiff, chairman of the house intelligence committee. You make news every time you're on this show, sir. Thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate you being ritual. All right. Still ahead tonight. Senator Amy klobuchar is here. I'm very excited about that. Stay with us. Do not sleep in tomorrow. Set your alarm if you're me. Tomorrow's decision day for Richard Neal, chairman of the House Ways, and means committee now that the treasury department has officially said no to his demand for the president's tax returns. The chairman told reporters today he will make a decision by tomorrow about what he's going to do in response, and the drama here isn't just what's in the president's taxes, and why is the president turning himself into a gigantic pretzel to try to block people from seeing them. I mean, the drama here now is also that chairman Neil's request is not an optional thing. The treasury department is required by law to give the chairman of the ways and means committee anybody's tax returns for any legislative purpose. Just because he said he wants to see them. That's why chairman Neil has now been signaling that he might even skip subpoenas. He might skip threats of contempt. He might just fast forward straight to the courts to get this settled and to get the president's taxes as he is legally authorized to do well while we wait for that potential court fight to start over the president's tax. Turns which again, we're going to hear about as soon as tomorrow one little piece of this. I think is worth sticking a pin in. This is Michael Desmond. He is the head lawyer at the IRS chief counsel she's councils the number two job at the IRS. And in this case he was handpicked by the president for that job. Specifically he was hand picked. And then he was also hand pushed through his confirmation by President Trump. The New York Times reported ahead of his confirmation that the president personally intervened to push along Desmond's confirmation president personally asked the Republican leadership in the Senate to prioritize this guy's confirmation vote even ahead of confirmation for William bar to be attorney general. Wow. IRS chief counsel not only hand picked by the president. But he seemed by the president as more important a bigger priority than even the attorney general. Turns out surprise Michael Desmond previously advised, President Trump's businesses on tax issues. Oh, so maybe that's why Trump wants him to be the top lawyer at the IRS while now at the time Michael Desmond said that nobody should worry about any potential conflict or loyalty issues there a spokesman for Mr. Desmond said during the confirmation process that if Desmond was confirmed, and quote, something involving Trump came up Mr. Desmond would seek advice from ethics officials. That makes sense he worked on tax issues for Trump's businesses. If Trump's taxes come up while he's the lead lawyer at the IRS and the number two official at the agency that would seem like a conflict. He should get advice. Well nail. Mr. Desmond is the IRS chief counsel. He's in that job. He got confirmed something involving the president's taxes. Most definitely has come up. Right. The treasury department. The IRS have said, no, no, no. We are not going to hand over the president's tax returns. Despite that law that says we have to question is did the IRS chief counsel, Michael Desmond ever consulted ethics officials like he promised is. He recused from matters having to do with the president's taxes. Given the fact that he advised the president's business on tax issues before his confirmation has he been recused from dealing with those things at the IRS if not how has he been involved in this decision making process, what kind of advice even giving. We don't know. So we tried to ask the IRS on Tuesday for three days. We didn't get so much as a tumbleweed blowing away from the IRS in response to our calls, which I'd calling we tried emailing. We're about to try sending smoke signals this afternoon when we finally heard back, and this is what the IRS is now willing to tell us about whether or not they're chief counsel who advised Trump's business on tax matters. Whether he is now recused for making decisions at the IRS about releasing the president's taxes. They told us this quote privacy laws prohibit us from commenting on specific taxpayer cases their situation. This is not an answer to any of the questions we asked about the IRS and their chief counsel, and whether he's working on this thing where he would appear to have a very big conflict. We tried following up to get an answer to our actual question. We never heard back. So I mean, we've been asking for three days now just stick a pin in this. I mean, the IRS and the treasury department are gearing up for what looks like it's going to be an unprecedented court fight over the sitting presidents taxes and the treasury department and the IRS defying black letter law that says the president's taxes have to be handed over the IRS on the treasury department saying, no, we're not doing it. And the top lawyer at the IRS. We were not allowed to know. The IRS will not give a straight answer about whether or not their top lawyer is recused from participating in that fight because he used to advise the president on his taxes. We've been asking for three days. We'll keep going. Well, ask for more watch this space. Joining us now here on person on person in person on onset on person inset is Senator Amy clever sharp, Minnesota she's in the running to be the democratic nominee for president of the United States. She also serves on the Senate Judiciary committee, which I fell in love with this week because of its list of question published last night about things that should be asked about Robert Muller's reports. Senator it's great to see. Thank you. Rachel. How're you enjoying running for president? I love it. You get to talk to people you get to talk about your ideas. And it is really a moment in time is you know, like we've never seen before in this country. I was in Milwaukee last night talking to voters there and did a town hall. I did one a New Hampshire earlier, and I can tell you that people are concerned about the rule of law in this country. But they still are asking about those bread and butter issues as the president close about the economy. People are worried about losing their. Healthcare. I've just put out a proposal on mental health and addiction and lots of interest in that because there's just a lot of people feel like they don't know where to go for help. And then you've got people that just simply are having trouble getting by and this president seems to act like he should be celebrating every day. When in fact, there's so many people that still are having trouble in this economy. I saw the announcement today from your campaign that you're heading to Puerto Rico soon as well. And I wondered if. What happened to Puerto Rico? Hurricane Maria is such an epic tragedy and its own terms and the size of that tragedy compared to the attention than it got as a matter of government accountability that ratio is unbelievable and his immoral stain on our country. I wonder if the presidential campaign might actually be a way to try to at least get some accountability. At least have some oversight at least have some attention to what went so wrong with the government's handling of Puerto Rico. Well, exactly in a lot of it is to do with this president who continually wants to look at Puerto Rico and different way. When in fact, there are citizens there there are people this is a US territory, and he is someone that just wants to look at them and let them go. I guess when in fact, you have people that need so much hope that lost everything that lost their homes that lost their hospitals that lost their schools and one of the things I'm doing. There is go to see some of the efforts that are underway. To make things better. But the help that they still need. And of course, that's why the house of representatives combined this with all of the other tragedies we've seen with the fires from California with the floods in Iowa and Missouri and the help they need and of course, in Florida not too far from Puerto Rico. And so you have this combination. Which is what we do. When a disaster strikes, our country and strikes are people we respond. We don't just let them out that we did it. When New Jersey needed help, we help them when North Dakota needed help with Grand Forks, and that flood we hope then we come together as a nation, and this is just one more example. And I believe in the end we will come together. I know Senator Shelby Senator Lahey Republican democrat or working valiantly on this from the appropriation side in the Senate and Senator Shelby self and getting in arguments now with his own Republican party White House because we want to do it the right way and this president just looks for divides. Right. He wants to. Blame people in Puerto Rico. He wants to blame immigrants. He wants to blink. People of color every day with there is a divide. He looks for it literally. I'm sorry. I exclaimed there Vermont I got upset. The president's literally pulled out a piece of paper and his rally last night to try to gin up anger in the crowd. He was speaking to in Florida about Puerto Rico getting too much aid. Yeah. This totally false graph. That was not through information showing Puerto Rico is receiving a disproportionate amount of funds trying to edge the crowd into being mad at that in booing that and talking about it. It's a zero sum game where Florida's being denied you people here at this. Trump alley are being denied. Because those Puerto Ricans are getting everything. When in fact, we want to help both places. Right. And when in fact, there are so many Puerto Ricans that call Florida home and the Florida representatives traditionally have tried to help both Puerto Rico and Florida as of other people in this country. You just don't treat your fellow citizens like this you just don't do it and try to love. Anger about it in order to. So that resentment in a way that that's what he does. I wanna talk to you about a whole bunch of different things, including some of the stuff that's happening on the judiciary committee right now. Can you stay with us? Yes. Senator Amy klobuchar of Minnesota is here. We'll be right back. Back with us. Now Senator Amy klobuchar of Minnesota, she serves on the Senate Judiciary committee. She's also running for president in the democratic primary. This your Senator thank you for sticking QA chill. You wrote a letter to Robert Mueller after the hearing in the Senate Judiciary committee where you questions attorney general bar pretty sharply, including about this very discrete issue of whether or not Muller looked at President Trump's President Trump's financial history and his taxes as part of his investigation. And he responded and said, I don't know. And you you asked if you can follow for us. It was worse than that. It was he said, well, I don't know. That's actually better. We'll we'll, but you don't know. I was surprised I thought he might know that they looked at the president's financial documents, easy, attorney general highest law enforcement officer in the country overseas that investigation in and then a he said, whoa. You'll have to ask Bob Muller when he comes and I go, okay. Well, that's what I'll do then. And. So now, we have a Senator Graham telling us that he is not going to be calling Muller except for some maybe some very narrow things. So we're not going to be able to hear. So that's why I wrote the letter to Bob Muller himself asking for those tax returns in the financial documents. I haven't heard back yet. But we are waiting, and as, you know, proceedings going on in the house as well after you just pointed out in your last segment, the Mnuchin and the treasury department and everyone else decided not to release these tax returns. That is something that when you really look at the rules. They should be released. And I think when you step away from all this. So as you so well pointed out, this is really about the rule of law. It is Thomas Paine in commonsense. Who once said in America, the king is not the law the law is king. And so this is about the law and our country and holding the president accountable. But it is also about making sure that our election is not invaded by a foreign power again and they didn't use tanks. They didn't use missiles, but they invaded our election all the same. And we have an opportunity to protect it. And I will tell you one thing when you talk to people out there while this is not the first issue on their mind when you're in New Hampshire or Nevada or South Carolina. It's not the number one thing that they say, but when you start talking about the rule of law and having a president in the White House that obeys the law and believes in the truth. That's what they wanna hear. And that's what they care about. And they understand that we can do two things at once. We can pursue economic agenda. That's positive and we can get to the bottom of what happened here. How do you think it's going to resolve? I mean, stick the microcosmic issue of that letter that you wrote to Robert Muller, and you haven't gotten a response yet. So direct question William bar said he didn't know I don't know if he's ever going to answer the question. It's a really interesting and important point did Muller ever look at the. Presidents financials. It's a huge background issue. In terms of this fight over his tax returns. And all the rest of it. How how will you get that answer? How will that be pursued? How will that resolve? They're trying to block access to everything Muller did. Well, we know first of all some things are going on right here in New York City where they're trying to get it in other ways. I think that's important. We also know that the house now has a case that can go to court to try to get those taxes because they were denied access and the house also has a lot of power the Democrats run the house. They don't as you know, run the Senate. So they have the ability to get that. And I think that's all important, but I think our job right now in the Senate is to push on this issue of foreign interference in our election. And make sure people understand what happened this isn't meddling. This was an invasion by a foreign power. And we now know as we look at all of this evidence that's come out. And that's why we did all those questions. We know that we can't ask. Color right now. And so we have to do everything to get him before congress for the American people and at some point he won't be special counsel anymore. And then we'll have another way to get him to testify, but we have to move forward. Senator Amy klobuchar of Minnesota democratic candidate for president Senator it's all happy here so much. We'll be right back. Stay with us. So this is an important announcement about this show something that's going to happen here tomorrow. You just heard some Amy klobuchar described what Russia did our democracy in two thousand sixteen as an invasion was word. She used when it came to the investigation of that invasion, and it's. Locations the FBI general counsel at the time. James Baker had a seat right inside that from the very very beginning. James Baker was there for moment zero the top legal official in the Federal Bureau of investigation. Now Baker has been pilloried by Republicans and by conservative media for taking on the responsibility of uncovering what Russia did to us in two thousand sixteen thus far he has been all but unable to publicly talk about that experience. And to explain what he did. But now he can talk about it with the redacted Muller report out and with House Republicans having released his closed door testimony, former FBI general counsel James Baker is going to be here tomorrow night as a guest on this show. He will be talking about number of these issues for the first time in any media environment. This is a very big deal for me. James Baker is going to be here tomorrow night that doesn't I night? 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"Hey, I'm Brad milkey, and I hosted new daily news podcast from ABC news called start here. Every day we get you up to speed on the stories that are going to be driving your day. We get important context from experts with on the ground access, and we do it all in twenty minutes. So start smart and subscribe to start here this week with George Stephanopoulos stars right now. War of words, it hasn't been engaged that cover up. I don't do cover ups. President Trump and speaker Pelosi trading barbs another temper tantrum she's a mess battling over investigations and impeachment or want to do a review of the Mullery board. It's over. There is no redo democratic leaders say impeachment isn't the answer. But with Trump stonewalling, congress is impeachment. The only way to investigate Trump and is that exactly what he wants heading into twenty twenty House Republican conference chair. Liz Cheney's here to respond, and we're on the trail with mayor. Repeat Fuda jet. Let's continuing horror show right now in Washington. The Afghanistan veteran weighs in on foreign policy, and why he's ready for the White House. How do you convince people you can actually do this at your age? He's been the surprise of the twenty twenty election so far. But does Buddha judge have staying power at his the Thirty-seven-year-old mayor truly prepared for the Oval Office that debate and more on our powerhouse roundtable, plus the very latest from President Trump's visit to Japan and his new comments on North Korea. From ABC news this week here now co-anchor, Martha Raddatz. Good morning and welcome to this week on this Memorial Day weekend. Another attempt at infrastructure week turned into a train wreck on Wednesday. President Trump walking out from a planned meeting with congressional Democrats on bipartisan deal after just three minutes. And then appearing before cameras hastily assembled in the rose garden to make his position clear so long as Democrats continued their investigations of his administration. There wouldn't be no deal. And with that the prospect of any further cooperation between the two parties appears him. Instead, the president opted to slam the speaker of the house in a manner. He had previously resisted, questioning her mental fitness, the speaker jabbed back saying she wished for an intervention by the president's family and staff, adding that she was praying for. The president and for the country, it's a sobering preview of what the next year and a half may look like ahead of the twenty twenty elections. And in exactly one month Democrats will assemble for their first debate making the case for why they should lead their party and attempt to break the stalemate in Washington on Friday. We travel to New Hampshire to talk to one of the most surprising contenders. Vying for the democratic nomination mayor, Pete Buddha. Judge has been outpacing more established candidates in the polls, and has raised enough money to appear on the debate stage. He's appeared on the cover of some of the biggest magazines in the country. And he's taking on President Trump directly. I began by asking him what he makes of the dysfunction in Washington. The continuing horror show right now in Washington, and you have a president who has turned the entire thing into a reality show. We've got a completely change the channel and make sure that we respond to all. The distractions of the nonsense coming out of the White House, not just by calling him to account, but by returning consistently to the question of how American lives are shaped by those decisions about changing the channel. How do you do do that with President Trump if it works for him, it does? But part of how it works for him is he provokes us in ways that make it very hard for us to do anything, but respond in kind the nicknames? The tweets the insults, and what we've got to remember is that the more we're talking about him the less, we're talking about voters, the win the conversation is about voters. We're going to win voters want a race. They want healthcare on almost all of the issues, the American people are with us. It is precisely for that reason that the only way the Republican party can retain power in the White House is if the conversation is about something completely different like the shenanigans of the current president, you said this week that, while the president deserves to be impeach. Teached you leave the decision about launching those proceedings up to the house, but House Democrats aren't unanimous on this issue, so who should make that decision leadership Nancy Pelosi with a more vocal wing department. But what's interesting is the case for impeachment is being made most emphatically by the president himself because it seems like every day or two. There is another affront to the rule of law. I'm just trying to be respectful of the fact that the best thing I can do to get us. A new president is to win the nomination and defeat the president who's there. I think Democrats are underestimating despite his on Powell popularity were underestimating the chance that he could win. I, I want to move to, to foreign policy, the Pentagon. He's sending fifteen hundred more military personnel over to the Mideast to deter Iran. Is that a good idea is that something you would have approved? This is not a good sign. Escalation is the last thing we need in the Middle East right now. And when you see what's been happening. It it appear. Peers that the administration driven by the way by John Bolton. One of the architects of the Iraq war is continuing to try to prosecute a case to lead to higher tensions escalation, and perhaps conflict with Iran is though, we learned, nothing from the last fifteen years of armed conflict, and conflict in the Middle East. This is also based on intelligence and the military central command, you know, central command very well. They asked for these troops for force protection based on intelligence about missiles in some Iranian boats. So this is not John Bolton asking for this. This is the military. Look, there is clearly a pattern of misbehavior and provocation by the Iranians that goes back in different ways of cross my entire lifetime. Let me stick to this because it's based on intelligence. Do you believe the intelligence? Well, I can't weigh in on intelligence that I haven't seen what I do see is heard people in the military commanders in the military today. Day saying this was the intelligence they've found, and I think our national security policy has to be to avoid escalation in the Persian Gulf. But, but how do you do that, if you're under threat? So if, if they think they're forces need to be protected more and you don't send more. I think that we have the means to protect our assets in the Middle East. And the way this is being talked about makes me wonder whether this, this is driven as much by domestic politics, as it is by national security, imperatives another fight still going on Afghanistan. You served in Afghanistan, we're approaching the twenty year Mark you've talks about your generation ending these endless wars. Would you end that war if you were president, would you pull our troops out when I left Afghanistan, five years ago, I thought I was one of the very last troops turning out the lights as I went we need to leave. And the reality is, we are leaving this is pretty much the only thing that the American left and right and the Afghan governor. And the Taliban and the international community all agree on is that it's time for us to go. Do you have this land for how we can get out what we've gotta do is isolate the threats that are specifically related to the homeland established whatever intelligence and special operations capabilities needed to head off those threats and remove any ground presence, that goes beyond that, and I think that Joe Biden's plan for many years ago? Well, many years ago would have been the time to make good on the idea of leaving. But, but that's the kind of plan you'd wanna do counterterrorism. In other words, you have a notches a blanket, counterterrorism mission. And look, I was part of the counter terrorism mission. Our responsibility is not to establish peace security democracy and prosperity in Afghanistan. A responsibility is to make sure that Americans cannot be attacked and anything that is not directly related to that is not a good enough justification for us to have troops on the ground in what is amounting to a forever war. Bernie Sanders said North Korea is one of the. Areas where he doesn't fault, the president for meeting personally with Kim Jong on. Do you is that the way to go? I know you've talked about more diplomacy, but there hasn't been any significant progress since he met with them when the president met with him. He was essentially handing North Korea something they needed, which was legitimacy, and the way diplomacy works the way deals work as you give someone something in return for some it hasn't worked. It hasn't worked at all. And President Trump was was handed a pretty tough hand with nuclear weapons with ICBM's operational the North Korea's a thorny issue. And I will say one good thing has come out of the changes that have happened in the, the kind of regional security picture in the last couple of years. And it's this the we used to believe that we had to completely resolve the nuclear issue in order for there to be any beginning when it comes to peace in the Korean peninsula. I think now the thinking has shifted a little. A bit to where it may be possible to pursue peace, anti-nuclear ization in a way that each might help the other. But there's, there's an urgency. Now, there's always been an urgency. Energy, quite like this one, because he has an ICBM that he's trying to put a nuclear warhead on that can reach the United States. One thing you learn in government executive roles is that they're the problems you believe you can solve right away and they're, they're the problems. You have to manage while you were pursuing a solution. Obviously, we're nowhere near solution on this issue under this president. I don't think it'll be easy for the next president. But I do think that there are strategies like what I'm describing could yield more results than what we've had today. And you talk about your experience, which leads us to the question. You're asked all the time. You're just thirty seven years old in the highest office. You've held as mayor of your hometown, even if you have that executive experience, which you do, you've never dealt with the Washington like we've seen today or foreign problems. How do you convince people you can actually do this at your age? I feel like I wouldn't be getting these same questions. If I were remember. Congress, which is interesting because you could be a very senior member of congress and have never in your life manage more than one hundred people when you are responsible for everything from economic development to public safety, and emergency management when your day oscillates between managing a development deal and figuring out how to hold your community together. During for example, a racially sensitive officer involved shooting when you literally get this call to deal with a man made or natural disaster. You have as good a preparation as an elected official can get for an office, that, frankly, is in so many ways daunting, and new for anybody who walks into it, and I would put my experience up aided, I think by military experience against that of any competitor. It is Memorial Day weekend. The president and first lady on Thursday, went to Arlington cemetery at about the same time you were saying that the president. Faked his disability to get out of serving in Vietnam. Pretty positive about that. Yes, there is no question. I think to any reasonable observe that the president found a way to falsify a disabled status taking advantage of his privileged status in order to avoid servant. You have somebody who thinks it's all right to let somebody go in his place into a deadly war, and is willing to pretend to be disabled in order to do it. That is an assault on the honor of this country. I want to go to comments about that. The president made about service members who have either been accused of work crimes or convicted of were crimes. He said, we teach them to fight, and they get treated unfairly, and he is going to look at those cases to see if perhaps, they can be the idea that being sent to war turns you into a murder is exactly the kind of thing that those of us who have served have been trying. To be back for more than a generation for president, especially a president who never served to say he's gonna come in and overrule that system of military Justice undermines the very foundations legal and moral of this country. Frankly, his idea that being sent to fight makes you automatically into some kind of war criminal is a slander against veterans that could only come from somebody who never served. We found his interview you did. When you were only eighteen years old in your local paper, when you talk in detail about wanting to go into national politics. I think I could pull it off. It's a tremendous challenge a kind of sexy challenge. But I want to give it a try seems like you knew you were going to do this your whole life. I was always interested in public service. What I would not have guessed that the age of eighteen was how much I would find purpose in meeting in local work for a while thought I was going to be a journalist for a while thought I was going to be a scholar. I always felt drawn in some way, too sexy challenge has been. Sexy challenge. Well, it away if you're a curious person, there's nothing like that challenge is about, as an engaging thing I could think to do with my life, and while this may not be a career for me. It's certainly something that has been extremely exciting for as long as I've been involved in where most importantly, I, I think I can make myself useful. It's not like I thought that at the age of thirty seven as a mayor, I would be seeking the American presidency. But what I've found is that moments will sometimes find you a little bit. And what I see now there's a new generation of leaders stepping up from France to New Zealand. You see people who were the same age or younger than I would be on inauguration day. To me, that's the kind of trend America should be weeded not catching up to thanks very much. 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President Trump, of course, is in Japan and he tweeted this North Korea fired off some small weapons, which disturbed some of my people and others, but not me. I have confidence that chairman Kim will keep his promise to me, and also smiled, when he called swamp, man. Joe biden. Low IQ individual and worse perhaps that sending me a signal. He corrected in this tweet. The spelling of Biden, which he misspelled in a previous tweet. What do you think about what the president said there about a murderous dictator, you know, I think that what we have seen so far with this president with respect to North Korea. Is that he's doing the right thing in terms of the policy? North Korea has for years through presidencies of Republicans and Democrats, gone through the exact same steps where they try to make false promises and they get concessions from the United States and they continue their program. What this president has done is say, we're not going to do that. We're going to require complete verifiable irreversible denuclearization. Let's go to and we'd go back to walk away from the table when the North Koreans wouldn't comply. So I would say you've got a judge based on actions. You've got to look where we are today, and where we are today is the president walked away. He was not willing to accept a phony deal, which to many of his predecessors. Happen and yet there's been zero significant progress in denuclearization. And we are almost at the one year. Mark could could you respond to the tweet is, is that I knew my view Martha is that we are doing the right thing in terms of the policy toward North Korea. And when you look at the situation, President Trump inherited whether you're talking about North Korea, whether you're talking about Iran, whether you're talking about the tremendous hole that the Obama administration, Doug with respect to our armed forces around the world president's doing the right thing. He's providing the resources, our military needs to begin to make sure that we can defeat our enemies and our adversaries, he withdrew from the devastating Iranian nuclear accord, and with respect to the North Koreans, he has said I will not accept a deal. That is not a deal that helps advanced this situation. Let's talk about Iran announcing this week that they're, sending fifteen hundred more US military to the region. Is that the right move or could that increase the possibility of miscalculation? It is the right. Move. And when you look at what we've seen in terms of the threat level, what we've seen in terms of what the Iranians have now are now doing, and I want to be careful not to talk about classified material and information, but there's no question. But that this threat as chairman, Thornberry said is not business as usual, and it's very important for the Iranians to understand that will do what's necessary to deter them from attacking us or our interests, and that will do us necessary to make sure they understand we aren't going to simply sit back and allow them to take action that will put our people in harm's way. So I think the president's doing exactly the right thing, and I support the actions p Buddha. Judge is calling what he witnessed in Washington this week between President Trump and Nancy Pelosi a horror show. What's your reaction to this back and forth, you know what I see every day, I'm obviously in the house representatives. And what I see every day is a speaker of the house, who is increasingly losing her grip on the leadership of her conference. And I think you've seen her being increasingly. Strident, you're seeing her lashing out, and you're looking at the Democrats who had put all their eggs in the basket of the Muller report, hoping that it would provide them evidence they needed to move to impeachment. It didn't. But so now what they're doing is basically taking all the oxygen out of the room, refusing to do any of the things we were elected to do, and instead continuing these attacks and partisan investigations partisan issuance of subpoenas, and the president of back because at the right thing to do. Look, I think that, you know what we have seen if you reach meeting, these videos that I think what is really crucially important to remember here is that you had struck and page who were in charge of launching this investigation. And they were saying things like we must stop this president. We need an insurance policy against this president, that, in my view, when you have people that are in the highest echelons of the law enforcement of this nation, saying things like that. That sounds an awful lot like a coup and it could well be treason. And I think that we need to know more, we need to know what was Jim Komi is rolling. All of this. These people reported to him. Andy MacKay reported to him what was comb his role in that. And that is what the attorney general is going to let let me talk about this, because you, you saw what the president did with attorney general bar, but he said he could declassify all this intelligence. Do you worry that sources and methods might be revealed? Do you have any problems with him saying, declassify this intelligence, even though he won't give the mullahs report and unredacted Muller report car, look, first of all the Muller report has been delivered to congress every single piece of it that could be within the law? The amount that's been redacted that's available for key officials in congress to see the amount that's been redacted as something like less than two percent. So it has been turned over. Secondly, I have complete confidence in attorney general bar in terms of this decision that he's going to make and Thirdly, as I said, before he has to have the ability to look at what happened. Think about what happened about the fact that we had people that are, are at the highest levels of our law. Enforcement in this nation saying that they were going to stop a duly elected, president of the United States saying they needed insurance policy against him. That is something that simply cannot happen. We have to have confidence in our law enforcement, and the attorney general has got to get to the bottom of what happened how it was that those people were allowed to misuse and abuse their power that way, and I just want to very quickly ask you. We have about ten seconds, here on the proposed pardons of servicemembers who been convicted or charged with work rhymes, you know, the president will have to make a decision on that, that is the president's decision to make completely. And we'll see what happens as cases are at different places in terms of the procedures that they need to go through with respect to the military Justice system. But the president has absolute power to pardon, and, and I will watch and see how he exercises that. Hey, thanks very much for joining appreciate it. President Trump, enjoying a sumo wrestling match over seasoned pan, presenting in giant trophy to the winner of break from the wrestling matches here in Washington. So let's bring in this Sunday's roundtable, ABC news political analyst, Matthew Dowd, Republican strategist, and ABC news contributor Alex Castellanos, Julie pace Washington bureau chief for the Associated Press. And we welcome ABC news deputy political director, maryalice parks, great to have you all here this Sunday morning and Matt I, I want to start with you. We've been talking about these extrordinary moments between speaker Pelosi and Donald Trump. How do the president fair in this? How do you think Pelosi fair? Well, I don't think anybody's has diminished with the president, no matter what he does, it seems to be in the course of this. He says he stuck it as you showed in the numbers he stuck at about forty or forty one percent of the prove rating. I actually think what he did help me see Paul. Pelosi be and we'll talk about this. I'm sure is talking about. In the in the conflict that exists within her caucus. I think Donald Trump using her and attacking her actually helps the UniteR talk UniteR within that caucus, even more. And I actually think because of how independent voters in the country view that president, which is unfavorable. It helps the view of Nancy Pelosi so, I think in a battle like this, it actually adheres to the benefit of Nancy Pelosi as opposed to Donald Trump. It definitely doesn't change the perceptions of Donald Trump. Alex doesn't seem to agree with you shot guy might I might have a different view in that is that when Donald Trump drags anyone into his playing field the mud he wins. He's very good at that. He is what he is, if he can get everybody else playing on his level, he successful. Work residents. She's a oughta what she's proven herself, a tough adversary, but she, she's the adversary, Republicans want, she's more popular than Trump is in a lot of these places, and Julie what, what do you think this speakers strategy is here? I think the speaker is operating on two tracks right now on the one hand Xi is trying to hold off voices in her caucus who want to move toward impeachment. Quickly. On the other hand, she is trying to give them some Tuff red meat rhetoric so that she can show them that even though she's not ready to go toward impeachment. Even though she strongly believes that, that actually is a political mistake for Democrats that she takes. What is happening with Trump and the administration seriously that she, she agrees with them that this strategy to just say, no to every congressional inquiry every request request for documents or or, or interviews is a real challenge to our system of government. But she really strongly believes that unless you have some massive change in public opinion on Trump. And on NPR that, that is going to be pretty disastrous for Democrats in maryelle is behind all. This is the White House's continuing stonewalling on many of these investigations. So that's agitated a lot of Democrats. So how long can Pelosi stave off this idea of impeachment? Do you think, well, I think they'd questioned impeachment is largely going to be determined by how this administration response to the courts, you know, back to back in the last week, two different judges side of Democrats in their requests for documents. And my democratic source on Capitol Hill say that they really did feel like those big wins helped temper some of this restlessness in the caucus, but there's also a lot of buzz on Capitol Hill that when it comes to the courts, there could be a new red line for Democrats. If this administration were to defy a court order, and not give up documents that I think could be a total breaking point even for speaker. Pelosi and somebody's Democrats have been cautious. Julia. They going to get anything done on the hill, not before before the end of it. I don't think they're gonna get anything done. That's proactive. There are. Things that they will have to get done raising the debt limit funding. The government are basic functions. It says a lot though I think about where we are that those are probably the only things infrastructure. We saw again last week that, that this is basically a pipe dream, even though it's something that both parties profess to want to do, but there's little appetite from Democrats to try to give Trump any any victories on policy headed into the election. And Trump frankly doesn't think it's good for his base to be seen working with someone like Nancy Pelosi, they're not going to get anything done. But, you know, that strengthens Trump, the Washington elite who too fat guys fighting over ham sandwich. These battles have me nothing to people more people see dysfunctional Washington. The more they want someone to disrupt it in. That's trump. The, the problem that Donald Trump has in that scenario is he's Washington. He's the president. He is he has become the leader of the, the biggest alligator in this one. That's one of the questions of the fundamental questions of twenty election is. Is Trump going to be seen as a politician because he's been here for four years? Or has he convinced his supporters, and others who really look at Washington, elites and think that. It's a few out there, actually do, do you think I mean remember base, we're Nancy Pelosi has forty members of her caucus that just flip seats red to blue? And if you're one of those forty you not excited about this idea of just throwing up your hands and not getting anything done. It is not fun to go home empty-handed. So she's getting it from those by the problem that if you look at the reality of the situation in Washington today is the Democrats have actually passed over two hundred bills in the house of representatives since they'd be the new congress has come in. They can both legislate and investigate. They have done both at the same time. All of those bills are languishing in the Senate because Mitch McConnell, this decided passing anything the Democrats, do isn't a good idea. I wanna go back to impeachment just for one second though, this is an argument. I think is both a polit- you can argue the politics of it. But then there's the principle of it. And at some point Democrats, even if the are even if the politics of this is problematic for Democrats, and you can't change Republicans minds on this, which is right now. You can't there is a principal argument to make civil rights to American public did not support the leaders in the. The American public were off pace in on civil rights on gay rights. The leaders were off base where where the American public was. I think at some point in time you have to put the politics at aside. And what is the principal argument that you wanna do regarding the president's impeachment? And Alex, I, I wanna turn to, to Bill bar to the attorney general. He's now President Trump has now put the focus on investigating the investigators. Is he just playing to his base here? You know, on occasion, even politicians do the right thing. And I think Donald Trump is doing the right thing here. The Democrats have been calling for transparency for two years now. Right. The American people have a right to see. Everything hold Cuban saying, never spit straight up even Adam Schiff called for these documents to be released by the Obama administration, because he was afraid would hide them. Redacted what Muller report? And by the way, there is a case to be made that there was overreach in our investigative agencies. That out of good motives. They feared this authoritarian was going to become president. Oh my God. It has to be stopped. Did they go too far? There are legitimate questions that should be investigated about that bar is protecting the presidency as well as the president and Bill bar. Julie really does seem to have quickly emerged as one of the president's strongest allies. Do you think bar is doing the president's bidding or someone? Who's just protecting the presidency. He says he's protecting the presidency. In this case, he is protecting this president. He is giving Trump what he wanted, which is somebody at the Justice department who appears to be on his side. What's really interesting about what Bill bar is doing is you. Yes, you have everything that he's doing with relation to the Muller report to investigate in the investigators. But he's taken this, this Trump agenda on fully was just an El Salvador talking about MS thirteen and immigration and gang members. He's in bracing the Trump agenda in a really robust way, Miro's. Well, it's unlikely then. Democrats are going to trust whatever answer he comes up with. So I imagine a scenario where you have House Democrats issuing more subpoenas, and they're starting to investigate the investigation of the investigation, and the end of the day, bottom line. They want more oversight of this Justice department and the Justice department doesn't want to give that in Alto. I want to turn to twenty twenty which is the shadow over everything we do the president seems most concerned about Joe Biden tweeting about him. And we'll talk about that in a minute from North Korea, but should someone like Pete Buddha judge, who we just saw be threat? He's on Fox News. He's a military veteran. Is that the kind of person they should be look, I think the president's been very clear that the last guy he wants to see on his turf on Fox News is Pete Buddha, judge. And there's a real reason for that. Joe Biden has middle class, working class potential. He's not playing just to the forty percent of the Democratic Party that says it's liberal Earl. Tre liberal. There's another fifty two percent of the Democratic Party that says it's moderate to conservative. That's Biden's lane. He's about the only guy in there except for crossover Pete Buddha. Judge the south bend mayor who talks about working people in their pain, and how the elites have let them down. So, yes, right now, Iowa, the latest survey, they what the starting line survey has Biden and, and Bernie at twenty four Ludi judging third place at fourteen I could easily see old Biden shrinking, and the guy who fills that link when Democrats are looking for an alternative to crazy Bernie, it may well, be Buddha judge. I think he's the one to watch, I think people to judge. I mean you watch him. He's probably one of the most impressive communicators of the entire field. And this is experience politicians that have run run for and won a lot of offices in this. I think what the mayor, and I think he's impressive. I think he he he's a very difficult opponent for the president to run against, but the problem, I think the pe- budgets, has problem more opportunity is that he's going to have to demonstrate. That he's never gone through in a political way, a gauntlet of three four five six bad days in a row. And he is this campaign will set up that way, we'll have to watch him and his debates, but I'm very interested to see if this young man can go through that gauntlet and how we emerges from that gone because that's the test of these politicians and Morales. You've been out there covering Pete Buddha. Judge what do you see as his challenges? He might have been the perfect candidate for twenty sixteen. An outsider and what ended up being outsiders race the Democratic Party right after Hillary Clinton loss was just craving, a new generation of leadership, but his biggest challenge might be that was yesterday's fight with this administration, and this president and the White House for two and a half years. We could have a democratic electorate that actually is craving, an elder statesman, and Joe Biden feel safe and secure to a lot of them and Julie Nate silver with partners at five thirty eight wrote a piece about the fundamental question facing democratic primary voters are moderate Democrats. More electable? Here's the answer. He says he doesn't know but they seem to be polling better with general election voters. What's your take? I think I think I agree with Nate's that we don't do. That's that's such an easy thing. Theories of the case right now for Democrats? Are you nominate a moderate you nominate somebody like a Joe Biden, and you win back some of those working class voters who switched from Obama to Trump in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan. The other theory of the case is that Hillary Clinton lost Trump because she wasn't able to, to motivate and energize a core parts of the democratic electorate, younger voters, African American voters, some of the liberals who voted for Bernie Sanders. So, so we don't know the answer to that. But those are two I think reasonable reasonable theories right now. Democrats also have something we haven't paid a lot of attention to a fifteen percent floor. If you don't get a fifteen percent and a lot of these primaries and caucuses you get zero delegates, what that means is Biden doesn't really have as, as many people in the field to divide to those lesser candidates. He's got a tougher race. He's not protected by that big field. We think he has. So I think he's only running against four or five people. I think he's in. Trouble. I think the biggest when you look at the twenty twenty race and the Democrats are going to go through this whole process series of debates. Lot of candidates, and I don't think we should ignore the fact that Kamala, Harris and heels warn are in the top five of these candidates. So they have a place to emerge in this. I think Donald Trump in the end, right? It in presidential election reelect, sir, all about where the president stands it. I mean, it'll be a fascinating thing who emerges and all that, and less the president figures out a way to expand support beyond forty-one percent. It's very, very difficult for him to win a general election when his job approval was at forty one or forty two percent. Let's get a little bit about what the president is doing overseas. Besides looking at sumo wrestling. We all saw that tweet about North Korea and basically supporting Kim Jong UN as and John Bolton. You know, he's, he's worried about these missiles, I say right away that those short little weapons that the that the president described can travel about three hundred miles as we as we've said, what's behind tweet like that. Julie? I think I think one thing is the president was probably trying to send a message to John Bolton. I mean he is not afraid to contradict his own advisers, publicly doesn't mean John Bolton's in trouble, or he just likes confusion. He generally likes either confusion or to assert that he's in charge, and ultimately he is. But maybe also get the message out there that John Bolton is journey. Visors billing for doesn't always it doesn't always speak for me. It is very clear that Trump when it comes to the situation with North Korea believes that his ability as a one on one negotiator is the right path. He believes he has made progress. He believes that the only way that we will avert the situation is for him to keep to keep talking. Here's a lot of voices behind the scenes who tell him. He is naive in that regard. But he at this moment believes that he is going to be able to strike some type of deal this, this push his personal diplomacy. Let me just say, again, I believe it was June twelfth the Singapore summit. So we are approaching the one year anniversary and there has been zero significant progress in denuclearization. This the administration that said the era of strategic patience is over. But it's not about North Korea is this has been a signal couple of weeks in American history because this is when the Cold War with China began my generation grew up with nightmares about nuclear mushroom cloud. Because we had to stand up to the Soviet Union for since the forties. Well, we won that. And by the way, Republicans did pretty well at the polls because we were the party of strength during that period. Now there's a new Cold War military economic. It's against a more powerful and ruthless adversary. Trump is the first president to take that seriously. China's been using North Korea's leverage is a club to beat us with all Trump is trying to do is take North Korea that bat out of their hands, but Trump, I think is something important happened. Well, he's long as he says he can convince China I've got a good relationship with the little guy that helps I it, it's is if president. Oh, it just switch places for a second President Obama had been saying and doing the same things related to North Korea. Fox News and the Republican establishment would be up in arms about how he'd placated a dictator in, in North Korea. It's memorial weekend. Right. It's memorial weekend tomorrow's Memorial Day. And I'm struck by the president in this. There's a great song by country song by Justin Moore. Called the ones that didn't make it home. And with you really want to honor the ones that didn't make it home. And this president and watching this president has past week. Do you really honor the ones that didn't make it home by considering pardoning people that are convicted that are might be convicted of war crimes? Do really honor the ones that didn't make it home by the troop assignment in Iran after the, we watched the folly in Iraq, the folly in Afghanistan. And we didn't learn the lesson of Vietnam war took us thirty years to finally in the last one will be more. We haven't learned that thirty days and do we really honor the ones that didn't make it home by banning transgender troops from Shenzhen gender people from being in the military. And so to me when I look at this in depr- this, this race in two thousand twenty go back to it is not going to be about whether our economic situation with is with China and what's the GDP numbers in opponent is it's going to be about who we are? And on this memorial weekend. I think it's an important question to ask that is who we are. And how do we honor those people that didn't make it home hard to respond to that, one Alex, but I'm going to give you about ten? Seconds. I think it's going to be about something else, larger in that is maybe it's about who we are. But who we are as compared to an elite that's losing all over the world, losing, Australia losing, and Briggs at losing in Israel. The Democrats are the party of that elite here that's making government work for them and not us. Donald Trump is still the outsider and I think he's got a big advantage going in a guy worth three billion dollars. It puts his the blue-collar. He's the only thing standing between us and them. That's what a lot of Americans. I think are gonna vote for thanks to all of you and have a good Memorial Day weekend. Thanks for coming in. This is personal for me too, but it's personal from two perspectives as a commander who led my airman in combat. And as a survivor of rape, and betrayal. I share the disgust of the failures of the military system and many commanders who failed in their responsibilities. Senator Martha mcsally captured America's attention with that powerful testimony about her own experience with sexual assault in the military. Now, the first female fighter pilot to fly in combat is taking on a new mission. Introducing a Bill to change the way, the military handles sexual assault pushing for additional research, establishing a special victims counsel at every military installation, and promoting information sharing to better track criminal cases. I sat down with Senator McCain Sally, for an exclusive interview we began with that startling new report showing a thirty eight percent increase in military sexual assault since twenty sixteen I've heard commanders. And I've heard military leaders say zero tolerance, zero tones, this is not going to happen. And it keeps. Happening. How do you really truly change things when you look at statistics like that? Well, I think we need to take a hard look at what's not working and figure out what is working, what training works for seventeen to twenty four year olds in this generation, and that's where the prevalence of the crimes according to the last report of happen. So part of what I'm putting in this year's defense Bill is additional research dollars dedicated to evidence base Aleutians as to what works, what's going to work to get through to this generation to change behaviors and stop these crimes, one of the things you talk about things that have not worked, and I know critics of, of your approach to this or saying commander should not have anything to do with this anymore that it should be some sort of independent. Prosecutor, why are you convinced? It has to stay in the chain of command. I think a lot of people don't quite understand the role of our commanders having been a commander myself. It's like no other position in civilian life. I mean we. Tell people to go take lives, maybe to give their own life. We are responsible for every element of their everything that they do. So if you want to solve anything in the military, you have to have commanders more involved. The problem is that we need more investigators that are highly trained. We meet need more special, victims councils. We need better, data, forensics evidence for crimes that are really, really difficult to prove in the first place. Even when the reported right away, but let's set the process up for the best success. That's what the focus is on my legislation this year. Senator Duckworth a veteran as well. She doesn't think that works. She thinks serious crime should be in the chain of command and commander, but not sexual crimes and says it just doesn't work. I respect her opinion. And we have many conversations about this issue. I just feel very strongly that commanders need to be responsible. And this is not just coming as commander. But somebody who's also sexual victims of say it's harder to go to a commander or. Mander might like someone else. So not prosecute. Someone they notes, it's not the way that works if the commander is the perpetrator you can go above the commander, you can go around the commander. So there are many relief valves in this process, but it's the problem is not the ultimate decision whether to prosecute or not by the convening authority, which is usually a Colonel general, the problem is that oftentimes, the case along the way is taking too long. Like a cancer rotting in the unit while this case goes on that we don't have the absolute best capabilities for the forensics in order to build a case, while also having due process for the accused. I want to talk about your own experience. If we can't Senator, I am also a military sexual assault survivor. But unlike so many brave survivors, I didn't report being sexually assaulted. Like so many women and men, I didn't trust the system at the time I blame myself, I was named and confused. When you finally did talk to someone you've said it was handled horribly felt like you were being raped again. Yeah. For me. It took many years for me to even come to terms with what had happened to me in the impact that it had on me, and those who are close to me, friends, and family, and others are well aware in my journey of healing, and my journey of not being a crushed by it. But instead being strengthened by what happened to me and being empowered not just to fight for myself, but other women, as I think, back, it just don't even know if I would've known where to go at the time. And so, yeah, I really feel like there was a second, very deep failure of when I tried to bring this to the attention of others. A lot of time. Times people look at someone like me and I've even had this happened since I revealed what happened to me, and they say ignorantly, like how could this happen to you and I mean, part of one of the reasons why I shared, what I did is because I think some people well intended some in the media, by the way, since this happened. Well intended, but extremely naive and ignorant about what a sexual assault survivor looks like tell me what it was like the day did reveal it. What was going through your mind? And how you felt after I saw that we were having hearing on military, sexual assault, and it would include victims on the panel that I decided on Monday night that I was going to share that. I was with them. Didn't make that decision lightly. But I just really felt like I wasn't trying to keep it a secret anytime even though I feel like I am as healed as you can be this side of heaven after what I've been through, but anytime you turn up the reminders of the traumatic things that you've been through in your life. I mean, I'm human those are not easy things to open up the door in your heart and mind of what happened to you didn't realize it was going to be as little emotional, as it as it was. But there I was on that day. It was I'm glad I did it. I don't regret sharing what I shared, and it has been an extraordinary journey since then on Memorial Day. We honor and remember those who have died while serving our country. So we visited Arlington National Cemetery this week to ask several of those currently serving who they're remembering this holiday weekend. I'm thinking about my battle, buddy major Paul care hall, and I were together in Afghanistan in two thousand ten when he lost his life, and this morning, I went over to section sixty very early to his great site. And I took a moment and I thought about our friendship. Memory Jordan, Shimin his personality, served with when I was in Afghanistan, he was an awesome person that class pilot almost always put a small and everybody's face always people today. I'm thinking about all those all those men and women that came before us. Either gave the ultimate sacrifice. Gave vast amounts of military service for their family members to this country. I came out early this morning to pay my respects the Chief Warrant Officer three David Gibbs smy wife's ample. He served in Bosnia, unfortunately, passed away in a helicopter accident. I didn't get to meet him personally to coming here and visiting a tombstone. Why recognize the name a name of somebody? That means a lot of my family and being on a planet flag. Personally. So very honored, I'm remembering friend's father in law. I'm always on Facebook last night and posted that we're drawing our place for platinum and he asked if I could find his father in law means a lot that someone reached out because they're not able to be here, and we're able to honor their loved ones. This is chance for us to remember where we came from what our legacy is to honor the pollen and even verse soldiers that don't is chance for them to connect with our history and connect to those who went before and really find our freedom came from place, a flag and see what it costs. And this Memorial Day, I will be thinking of specialist, Ahmed Cason, and his daughter, akilah Ahmed was killed during a firefight in Iraq when a killer was just three years old today. She is eighteen just graduated from high school, and is heading to college to study nursing good, job, akilah and good job to her mom. Allison met would be so proud. That's all for us today. Thanks for sharing part of your Sunday with us. Check out world news tonight and have a lovely and meaningful Memorial Day. This is Dr Jennifer, Ashton chief medical correspondent for ABC news. My husband of twenty one years, and the father of my children, died by suicide. I've been on a complicated journey to find purpose after sudden loss, and I've found others on the same journey. It's a fraternity, you're totally unaware of until you're entered into it. I'm not going to stay stuck in despair. My father's death to be nothing. Join me, join all of us on my podcast life after suicide. Listen for free on apple podcasts or wherever you're listening now.

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It's got a lot of stuff in it and we've got great interview with Frank Figliuzzi coming up in the C block. We're going to talk to him about this New Release I mean you. You remember trump saying that In one of his press briefings at the FBI was full of you know a foul horrible people and just badmouthing FBI. And I was like what is causing this. It is it because Reggie Reggie Walton's going over Miller report on Monday or is it something else that you know. I'm not thinking of but I think it has to do with the release of this particular these these previously classified footnotes. And we're GONNA discuss what those footnotes are and what it means and if it's important it's not and we it's. It's really great to to be joined by frank later in the show for that again. Let's see what else is happening. Thanks to our patrons are premium subscribers. If it were not for you we would not be able to continue to pay our employees. We're going to talk about the small businesses associations in their paycheck Protection Program. A little bit later in the show. And who actually got money. And WHO's benefiting? Some people have actually started to give it back because they realized they fucked up and you know they got a lot of public backlash for for taking it in the first place which I suppose is good but that loophole shouldn't have been there in the first place and Just a ton of news really really great reporting from Adam class felt today on Some hydroxy chloroquine antitrust issues being removed. for for a few pharmaceutical companies. So that's a really interesting reporting. I suggest you check out. Courthouse News and follow Adam classified. If you don't already we do have a lot of news to get to. And so let's do it. Let's hit the notes notes all right. So let's start with the Governor Andrew Cuomo and his briefing. Today he said four hundred seventy eight people had died in New York That is the first time the one day total was below five hundred since April seconds. So it's been eighteen days since The toll toll has been over five hundred and it went below five hundred today New York. We'll test three thousand people for antibodies to the virus. Starting today Mr Cuomo said this is good. I've been talking about this for a while because I know that we have those not yet. Peer reviewed studies coming out of south China. That are saying you know. Only a third of the people that we tested had an Will a third of the people we tested had little or no antibodies? And that was. It could be correlated with age. That young people aren't developing antibodies. People who are older and seem to be hit. More with symptoms had developed more antibodies. We need this information to find out how we can move forward. We we shouldn't be opening anything backup. And as we know The mayor of Jacksonville reopened the beaches. There and he's facing some backlash after those photos went viral. Nobody was wearing masks. Everyone with no one was doing social distancing. Nomo's practice practicing social distancing. We have camp in. Georgia. Who is tomorrow going to open up bars and restaurants and nail salons and gyms and retail stores. And it's just absolutely getting to the point where you need to have these antibody tests in order to know who to send back to work or you can't even meet the gating criteria for phase one of trump's own plan to reopen the economy. So I'm not even sure they. They've only had two days You need to have fourteen days of of decreasing new cases and they only have two days so they aren't even meaning that those criteria and it's just so dangerous. I can't believe that I can't believe it's happening but anyway. Those who test positive for antibodies to the virus or believed to have had it and recovered. Some states have said that such people could be among the first to return to work Quote this will tell us for the first time. What percent of the population actually has had the corona virus and is now at least short-term immune to the virus? Mr Cuomo said this will be the first true snapshot of what we are really dealing with. I do want to mention though. It is important. Note that there might have been people who had the virus who will test negative for antibodies Just like we said there's been some pre peer reviewed studies that are showing. Some people had no antibodies after having tested positive. We do not know if they were false tests for positive. They got false positives on their on their first corona virus tests or if they had the disease didn't develop symptoms and because they didn't develop symptoms or because they're below a certain age. We don't know any of this by the way That they didn't develop antibodies and so to assume that you'll know who had it because of who has antibodies. I don't know that we want to go forward without assumption I wouldn't personally the State Labor Department said on Monday. It had fixed the The New York state. Labor Department had fixed the problems that hampered the ability of seven hundred recently laid off workers to obtain unemployment benefits. That's a new story that Cuomo Today cover today. The seven hundred were the only ones left out of roughly one point. Two million applicants who were having lingering trouble getting assistance amid the pandemic department official has has said New York. Governor Cuomo also said Monday. That hospitals schools local governments will face twenty percent cuts in state aid if the federal government fails to include more funding in the next corona virus. Stimulus package. Cuomo said he is worried about empty promises from Washington DC quote. You can't spend what you don't have you would be cutting schools. Twenty percent local governments twenty percent and hospitals twenty percent. That's about you know the state being able to fund infrastructure. You can't you. Don't get any assistance from federal government. Cuomo also added quote now. Federal Government has said from day one. Don't worry we're going to provide funding to the states yet. Don't worry but I am worried because I've heard this over again and he should be worried. he was supposed to be in the last stimulus phase. Three it wasn't it is not going to be in phase. Four trump says. We're going to hold onto that and use it at a later a later date. I don't know what four It just seemed. Bribe me when he said it. That Way. But yeah to to go back to talking about some of these governors and mayors just reopening ship before they even meet the criteria for phase one of the White House's own of the task force own criteria for reopening government. The mayor of Jacksonville is defending his decision to reopen the beaches That's after those photos of crowds went viral over the weekend and the South Carolina Governor also is saying he's going to reopen public beaches in retail stores as well today and also in the news today and this is big and this is what I was talking about a little bit earlier from Adam. Class failed courthouse. News despite recent studies of Hydroxy chloroquine showing the drug has no impact on the corona virus but cases but causes heart problems like arrhythmias and death. In some cases. The Department of Justice just cleared antitrust hurdles standing in the drugs way from Port House news quote Pharmaceutical Wholesaler Amira Source. Bergen has requested a green light as part of the initiative to distribute hydroxy chloroquine from the national stockpile to communities ravaged by the novel. Crooner virus as we all know from previous public reporting trump. Giuliani John Solomon of the Ukraine Clown Posse And of course the White House Task Force had been pushing. Hydroxy Corcoran really hard. Marcy Wheeler posited we were thinking it was for profit Marcy Wheeler said. Well these are cheap. Drugs people are donating them. But if it's not for money could be for trump's reelection efforts because you know he could he could Without any outcomes with ambiguous doubt at best he could say it was the Miracle Drug and it worked and look at. How many lives that saved without pointing it any numbers because we don't have correct numbers because there's no testing but we do know about a French study that found the drug produce no significance different significant difference in the death rates of people who had grown virus and that There was a study that was halted early in Brazil because the dangers of the drug. The people who were on higher doses six hundred milligrams were dying of irregular heartbeat and heart failure and researchers have found that you know these patients on on higher doses were developing arrhythmias and it turns out. Ameris. Bergen wrote to the Justice Department. The same the Justice Department wrote back the same day that French study was published and they were writing to get relief from antitrust enforcement procedures. Basically they want to be able to monopolize this drug or you know price fix with. I mean there's a lot of things to anti-trust but you know they wanted to work with other pharmaceutical companies about how to distribute this particular drug Dr Dena Grayson who researched worked on research for antivirals further bulla virus and and she's a former Democratic congressional candidate. She says again if the idea here is let stockpile drugs in case it works we can always stop the stockpiling. If that's the case fine but then why isn't there a big push to start stockpiling drugs? That look more promising. The only thing I can come up with is because trump is on the bully pulpit and for whatever reason it's become this like wherever a treatment has become politicized Like this is where a treatment has become politicized about whether or not it works either. It works or doesn't based on data and evidence And so two her point. There are several cove nineteen treatments in the clinical trial phase. That are actually antivirals. Instead of anti-malarial antibacterial by the Department of Justice Letter clearing the gateway clearing the anti-trust obstacles is only about it only mentions high hydroxy chloroquine and the official by the way that the DOJ that Replied to the request for Romero source. Bergen this this person replied easiest. An attorney general. His NAME IS MCCONNELL RAHIM. He has previously asserted that monopolies should be legal until they abuse their power and he was previously accused of playing politics when he unsuccessfully tried to block the. At and T. Time Warner merger which was probably at the behest of trump and his vendetta against CNN as we know at and T. also Gave millions and millions of dollars to essential consulting to focus on show which was sort of a it was sort of a it was basically a slush fund. It was basically a bribe tank like millions Michael Cohen. I've got access to the president if you WANNA bribes your money. I'll call me a consultant. High Five. That's sort of how that happened. At it really wanted this merger to go through It did and of course he tried to block this and I'm so let's talk then about Amarah Source Bergen. They've been sued hundreds of times before. Corona virus was a thing. They've been sued hundreds of times over their part in the OPIOID crisis Public officials in West Virginia Oklahoma and two counties in Ohio have accused Amirah source for exacerbating the abusive opioids and the Washington Post reported last year. Then Amirah source along with mckesson and Cardinal Health Were controlling eighty five percent of the opioid market all three companies. That sound like a monopoly. Sound like something antitrust law should probably take care of all. Three companies settled last fall for two hundred fifteen million and earlier this month. The Department of Justice signed off on a letter. Basically allowing mckesson and Cardinal Health to collaborate on cove response without antitrust concerns as well so getting the three Amigos back together again no antitrust laws will befall them so basically trump's department of justice is lifting antitrust laws on these pharmaceutical companies working together on Hydroxy Corcoran. So he can't be held liable for cornering the market or price-fixing or whatever they would you know whatever. They'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHATEVER LAW. They're worried about breaking whatever antitrust parts they're worried about breaking some that's going on Checkout courthouse news and unclassified. If you don't follow them already really interesting stuff. We'll be right back with more news right. This break including the big issues with oversight for the paycheck protection program in the Small Business Association. Stay with us for these messages. Hey everybody it's in. Today's episode of daily beans brought to you by molecule molecule is re imagining the future of clean air. Starting with their air purifier. Global air pollution is worsening over eighty percent of people living in urban areas or exposed to air quality below World Health Organization Standards According to the EPA. Indoor air can be up to five times worse than outdoor air. 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Today it says Brett Gurdwaras or girder grew grew rarer. Brett I'm aecom Brat Admiral Brett. That's the federal official. Overseeing Corona virus testing efforts says it is experience working on vaccine development projects at Texas am university. Help prepare him for this historic moment. He once said that his vaccine ever was so vital that the fate of fifty million people will rely on US getting this done but after eight years of work on several Vaccine Project. Guerrero was told in two thousand fifteen. He had thirty minutes to resign or he'd be fired. His annual performance evaluation at Texas am. The local newspaper reported said. He was more interested in promoting himself than the health science center. Where he worked. He got low marks on being a team player. So this is a guy that trump's put in charge of ending the Kobe. Nineteen testing shortage. And now he's the testing's are now. He's in the hot seat as Republican and Democratic Governors alike continue to sound the alarm bells that they do not have the testing they need and they don't have the equipment they need or the PCP. They need to dawn in order to give the tests to fight the outbreak. Let alone thinking about opening up businesses. they you know we. We have to one of the criteria gate and criteria for getting to phase one of reopening your economy as a state which is now the responsibilities of the governor's because trump likes to pass the buck. That way is that you have to have fourteen. Continuous days to get to phase one fourteen. Continuous days of a decrease in the number of new cases. How can you do that if you don't have testing? And how can you have testing if the federal government isn't helping you get it During two recent interviews with the Washington Post Brett blamed his ouster at Texas am on internal politics at the university. Not on any problems with the project. Bret has promised that tens of millions of serology tests will be available within a few weeks That enable people to determine whether they've had the virus he he's promising tens of millions within the next Few weeks that's his promise. And thousands of traditional small businesses were unable to get funding from the paycheck protection program before it ran dry last week. We know about this. We've heard about this. They ran out of that. Three hundred and forty nine billion. I've been talking about. How Republicans are being they're griping that you know the Democrats wanted to add money for the states and attesting stuff vote by stuff and and funding for the post office to this Additional Small Business Association paycheck Protection Program Funding But they sh- you know if they really cared about it than they would have approved the original five hundred billion that the Democrats proposed instead of talking them down to three hundred and forty nine billion. But anyway I digress. The money is gone but as Congress and the White House near a deal to add maybe three hundred three hundred fifty billion to the program summer calling for additional oversight and rule changes to prevent bigger change Burger. Excuse me bigger chains from accepting more money. The problem here is. The fund was drained by large businesses. For example Ruth's Chris Steak House chain. That has one hundred fifty locations and is valued at two hundred and fifty million dollars reported receiving twenty million in funding from the small business portion of the economic stimulus legislation called the paycheck protection program. Then there's pot belly which is a chain of sandwich shops which has more than four hundred locations valued at eighty nine million. They got ten million dollars last week. Shake Shack one point. Six Billion Dollar Burger and fries chain based in New York City also got ten million after complaints from small businesses small business advocates when the fund went dry company founder. Danny Meyer and Chief Executive Randy greedy announced Sunday evening. They would return the money the shake shack money. We'll give that back. They said they had no idea. The program would run out of money so quickly so they understood the uproar. Not Sorry we're at one point. Six billion dollar publicly traded company. Here's your money back. No Oh we didn't realize it would run out of money so quickly in all more than seventy publicly traded companies have reported receiving money from the program according to filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Senator Rick Scott. Republican from Florida criticized the program saying the companies that are not being harmed at all by the corona virus. Have the ability to receive taxpayer. Funded loans that can be forgiven. I'm concerned that many businesses with thousands of employees have found loopholes to qualify for these loans. Meant for small businesses unfortunately when it comes to the P P P millions of dollars being wasted but not to be outdone Bible thumper Senator Marco Rubio from Florida Chairman of the committee overseeing small Businesses Lucky. Us address the criticism Monday morning on CNBC saying the hotels and restaurants are some of the first and hardest hit companies and many other locations are owned by true small businesses or individuals. Some companies receiving money our clients of J. P. Morgan Chase adding fuel the criticism. That Wall Street banks had helped their clients obtain cheat cheat find their loopholes and obtain these large amounts the bank put out a statement sent Sunday saying that it is proud to have secured more funding for small businesses than anyone else in the industry and the eighty percent of its pylons have been businesses with less than five million dollars in revenue J. P. Morgan explain that companies may have been served more quickly because its commercial banking unit which serves larger clients was able to complete most of the applications received while many more applications poured in from traditional small businesses. So fuck did this happen. P. Program was intended to benefit. Workers Businesses a nonprofit employers with fewer than five hundred employees that are unable to credit obtain credit elsewhere. According to the Small Business Act. At least which is what forms the basis of the program but after intensive lobbying by the restaurant and hotel industries during the weeks leading up to the passage of the two trillion dollar cares act owes that it was at fucking lobbyists. No surely you don't say Congress allowed separate subsidiaries and locations to apply as businesses even though they were part of a national or international chain. So Ruth's Chris Steak houses like well. The Ruth's Chris down on Main Street in nowheres Ville Oregon. They only have seventeen employees. So Ruth's Chris should get ten million dollars to distribute among their restaurants as they see fit. Anyway I know a lot of small businesses that were shut out because they run out of. They ran out of funding so quickly because everything was gobbled up by J. P. Morgan and chases giant fucking massive department of people who can make these applications and securing millions millions of dollars for publicly traded companies so multiple. Ruth's Chris Locations could apply under separate entities even though the parent company employs fifty seven. Forty five thousand seven hundred forty people other industries and advocates lobbied against affiliation roles as well including the private equity industry hotels with three quarters of their rooms. Empty and nearly four million people out of work have also been taking advantage of the program. Philadelphia's Herschel Hospitality Trust and Condor Hospitality Trust maryland-based owner of fifteen hotels. In eight states reported. Last week they had applied for loans. Meanwhile we couldn't. We have one two three four five five employees and a lot of these. Ceos are taking making millions of dollars. The Ruth's Chris. Ceo Six point one million. I think we'll have to look it up. Ceo of daily beans make same as the non CEO. So this this story as you can tell angers me bit. I want to know. Who's responsible for that? Loophole I hope that the Gao who I'll talk about here in a minute is gonNA look into that. We do know trump fired. The Inspector General of the Pentagon who was nominated by all the other inspectors general to be in charge of how the coronavirus stimulus package was spent to be provide oversight of that. Didn't it didn't know Congress. People see this loophole. The lobbyists battled to put it in where the Democrats forced to agree to it. Otherwise they'd be blamed for blocking it anyway in other news. Oil prices tumbled suppose that's a little Schadenfreude as the economic crisis by the Krona virus pandemic continued to destroy the demand for energy for oil and concerns grew that storage tanks in the United States. Were near capacity and unable to hold all the unused crude found some information the New York Times explaining how oil can trade for less than zero. I was wondering how it went. Negative but basically a benchmark for oil. It's a benchmark for oil that will be delivered next month and that went negative meaning it was essentially deemed worthless suggesting people who had oil to sell were willing to pay to pay for it to be taken off their hands next month oil that is scheduled to be delivered in June. More reflective of the market's view on what the value of crude is right now also fell sliding sixteen percent about twenty bucks a barrel. So it's not good either way. The problem is that the United States is running out of places to store its oil. According to The New York Times oil is already being stockpiled on barges out at sea and in any nook and cranny companies can find in their storage facilities now. Traders are worried that even this space is running out under future contracts under futures contracts West Texas Intermediate the American oil price benchmark is delivered to cushing Oklahoma but investors are worried that there will be no place to put it there and a lot of folks on social media seemed to think that the full unredacted. Muller report was supposed to be out today. This we're moving on from the oil. Sorry Weird segue yeah. I had a bunch of people saying Oh. Are you guys excited? More reports coming out today. Unredacted Miller report note. An some folks argued with Muller. She wrote on that. But here's what happened. We we all know what happens. We're all very savvy folks Back in March Judge Reggie Walton. Said I WANNA see the full unredacted. Mullah report give it to me you have until March thirtieth and they did the Department of Justice delivered. The full unredacted Muller report to him on March Thirtieth Judge Reggie Walton. Bush appointed judge but very good judge. He's been he's been very critical of bill. Barn his handling and mischaracterization or the Muller findings. So here we have Reggie Walton and he says Oh corona virus concerns. I can't review this in camera in camera means in private not publicly. I can't review this camera right now. The courts don't reopen until April twentieth. That's what I'm going to begin. The review in camera of the unredacted Muller report so today as when Reggie Walton was set to begin his You know behind closed. Doors Review of the unredacted Muller Report. I have not heard still if that is happening today if the courts are back in operation if they're not I haven't heard of a postponement yet at least not since I've started recording. I will keep you posted on this But there is some stuff should know all the stuff that's been redacted from the mall report for Grand Jury Materials Rule Six E. We're never going to see that. And that's probably where the juicy stuff is so. I don't want you to get your hopes up too much about what might come out of the redacted portions of the Miller report more likely. I think what will here is. If anything was inappropriately redacted we hear about that and and rebukes of the Justice Department From Judge Reggie Walton. If that's the case that's probably more along the lines of what would come out. I could be completely wrong But that's where my beans are so. I just want to let everybody know about that. And from Kyle. Cheney at Politico Congress's independent in-house watchdog. And this is. I was talking about a little bit or this is the Gao. Government Accountability Office is preparing blizzard of audits that will become the first wide ranging check on trump's handling of the sprawling national rescue effort. That's the stimulus. The good news here is that although trump has fired a lot of the executive branch inspectors general including the like the one I said that was a report appointed to oversee the money spent on Corona Virus Leaf He was the Pentagon Inspector General. Who's nominated by all the other inspectors general to head up the oversight the GAO? The Government Accountability Office calls the Legislative Branch home and is largely out of the reach of the president from politico quote by the end of April. At least thirty cares act reviews and audits are expected to be underway by the GAO according to interviews with senior investigators. Good because I'm mad about this. P P P thing and that's just one tiny part of it. I WanNa know where the rest of the money is. Going topics of these audits will range from the government's handling of corona virus testing to its distribution of metal medical equipment and from the nations food supply to nursing home infections and any missteps in distributing the emergency cash payments. The offices top fraud. Investigators said it's already received complaints about a check landing in the account of deceased person quote. We're moving forward very quickly. Sanjay Nicole clouds chief of the GAO's healthcare unit were an existing institution and a lot of institutional knowledge about these programs. It gives us sort of a leg up good good. I'm glad to hear that and I'm looking forward to what the GAO has to say. I really am the GAO. By the way that's the same entity that put out the letter saying That when trump withheld the Ukraine aid he was violating the impoundment. Control out breaking the law. And now I think they're investigating his withholding of World Health Organization funding. I think they'll find that to be the same cases. That hundred. Twenty billion was appropriated by Congress. Already sixty of it was spent. He wants to withhold the other sixty pending review. Exactly what happened with Ukraine? Not sure how it couldn't be a violation of the Impoundment Control Act. We'll hear from jail and trump can't fire them. They are part of the legislative branch. One of those nice checks and balances that we still have. Fortunately we'll be write back to discuss bars release of previously classified inspector general footnotes to benefit trump. And we're GONNA talk about that with former assistant director of the FBI. Frank Lucy so stay with us. Hey everybody it's ag this helping daily beans brought to you by Radon. Whether you're working from home or working on your fitness out for a walk you WANNA be able to listen to what you want. Not What your roommates neighbors or your kids are listening to. And everyone needs a great pair of wireless ear buds. 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And this you know I think was prompted by his new director of national intelligence declassifying some footnotes from the Department of Justice. Inspector General's report on the Carter Page Pfizer. And I wanted to ask you about the validity of this release or the circumstances surrounding it. I guess we can start off. Can you remind everybody first of all what that you know that Inspector General's findings what what happened with that? Sure I mean it's like we're calling time out from a global pandemic to talk about why the president of the United States is referring to the FBI in a corona press conference and referring to them as human scum. So it's worthy of our discussion and I think you're right. Ag As to the motivation that were left to discern because trump doesn't give us the specific reasons why he's talking about anything but it does appear that he's pointing to this Inspector General Report Long Released. Longo released familiar with the findings. The ultimate finding being that the I looked at the origins of the Russia investigation opened by the FBI. This is the one that led to the special counsel Robert Muller and he found. Hey look found some issues. But the predication was there to open this case. And of course. Lo and behold the investigation ultimately found that couple dozen. Russians representing the the Russian government Messed with our two thousand sixteen presidential election and they got indicted so a worthy investigation properly predicated. Now why are we hearing In the last twenty four hours the President United States in a corona briefing shouting about. Fbi come his acting denied the guy he took from US ambassador to Germany and planted him is acting. Dna has ordered the declassification of of a of a handful of footnotes. That were classified in that I g report and so we're now seeing right wing media and trump apologists pointing to these footnotes as explosive Relations that on the FBI was all screwed up and that this case should never have been opened and they should have known better. Here's what here's the revelations that are claimed in these witness they point to indications that the FBI was aware that some of the information they were dealing with could have been a Russian campaign of disinformation to plant seeds of of false hoods inside things like the steele dossier the Christopher Steele dossier And to to have for example Carter Page painted as a Russian informant when maybe he was not. And so. What you're seeing is a couple of senators namely Grassley and Johnson and even the Attorney General of the United States. Now running around saying you see this you see this. The FBI knew that they had bad information. They went forward with a Russian investigation and the whole thing was an attempt to sabotage the press. And and there's this is sort of a long lead up to this. I mean we had this. I think it was last year. Maybe even a year ago. When trump gave bill bar the authority to declassify anything he wanted And then you know we have this department of Justice. Inspector General report came out with the findings that they did have credit to open this investigation. That lead to the appointment of Robert. Muller Bar came out in his disagreed with that openly. He said he disagreed with those findings. then of course appointed. Durham to investigate the investigation and recently commented on the Durham Durham Investigation Which is open an ongoing which is unprecedented for an attorney general to do. And you know we've got these other things like bar giving himself the only permission or the only you know. He's the only person who can grant specific permission for anyone to investigate anybody running for president or vice president And so we've got all these little pieces coming together and I've noticed that over time I feel like with the Andy McCabe investigation. They couldn't find anything and eventually had to give it up. They were forced to give it up. And with the Durham thing. They're probably coming up. Empty handed can't find anything. The I came out and said there was a predicate to open this investigation. And so now. They're just trying to cherry pick things that look bad because Carter page is a red herring. Not so I wanted. This was important. I'm glad I'm glad you asked about Carter page because I want to. I am no apologist for the FBI. If they screw up and by the way screw up being defined is not even following their own rules so in the Carter Page Faisal Affadavit and subsequent renewables and for those your viewers are pretty savvy. They understand what's going on there is there is trying to wiretap of Carter page the FBI. Thought he might be a Russian source or have been collected or recruited by Russia. So the th the I found look and you didn't follow your own rules. You got a least one case. There's an allegation that a fairly low level. Fbi Attorney May Have. Actually you know or changed altered an email To to to the benefit of the FEIS application on carpet. But here's why. This is a distraction other than the fact that the FBI needs to fix its house with regard to to how they do FIFA because the trump would love us all to believe that. The the the wiretap of Carter Page was somehow spying on him and his campaign when actually well before trump was president states. This guy named Carter page was on the FBI's radar screen is someone who is doing a dance with Russian intelligence. So he the I g found that he was a valid target of investigation and he did not find that the that the Pfizer court would have changed. Its mind and had they known some of the mistakes that the FBI had made so so. When you hear things like my God Carter page is a reflection of how the FBI was coming after the president. I'm not buying what what what that selling. That's that's a separate entity for me. So let's look at the report footnotes. That were just released. And let's try to put them in perspective everybody over at Fox News and certain. Gop Senators are screaming bloody murder because the footnotes just released seemed to indicate that. Oh my God some of the information the FBI used to open their case might have been disinformation from Russia. Well I have. I have a revelation of my own for people if you were counterintelligence every God darn piece of information that crosses your desk is potential disinformation from some foreign intelligence service. You actually build that into your everyday thinking and even doing that the FBI decided and the Age Iga agreed. That vein had a properly predicated case to open on Russia. Meddling with our election and as I said at now Ad Nauseam. The ending was yeah. Russia messed the Russian government messed with our two thousand sixteen presidential campaign and we indicted over two dozen Russian so Trump is trying to say is it? It's the fruit of the poisonous tree. Doctrine right throw the baby out with the bathwater. If you got if you got some things wrong in on Carter page the whole the whole case on me has to go away if you if you have some footnotes that proved that you knew some of this Chris. Steele dossier could be rush implanted. Disinformation the whole thing has to go away. That's not how this works. And we need to kind of understand that in the proper context last thought on this section is the widen you brought this up? Why DIDN'T AG BAR? Who had all kinds of blanket? Authority to declassify. Whatever he wanted. Why didn't he declassify? These mysterious footnotes. Why do we have to see an acting deny show up and save the day for trump? Well great question was it that. Ag Bar actually said you know what there's a lot of sensitivity to these remaining footnotes while the FBI knew that Russia might be planning information human sources that might have been telling the FBI this and oh by the way White House if I bar. Declassified is remained footnotes. I really look like your stooge. Can we find somebody else to police do? This and here comes the acting deny to get that job done. Yeah Rick Grenell Total Patsy zero intelligence experience and a couple of other considerations here with Carter page first of all steel said this is raw intelligence that buzzfeed published seventy to eighty percent of it. I'd wager is true although none of it's really been disproven and he'd said Hey. Yeah I was talking to Russians the FBI. Put that in the application for the FIFA and the one that was in question with the Seventeen. Errors was a renewal. Not The initial application and Rod Rosenstein signed off on it. Anyway Rod Rosenstein the land the plane guy trump's guy Komi signed off on this. And even if he did neither here nor there you know you you get my point there but Komi Komi has actually publicly Talked about how He was weighing. Russian disinformation. There there's a well there's a well-known story that commes told about you know without getting into lot of sensitive detail that the Russians did did provide a complete disinformation to the FBI to screw things up and it. It had to do whether Komi could trust the attorney general at the time. Loretta Lynch or not. So this is all in an environment by the way you know. It's a typical counterintelligence day at the FBI. Where where you've gotta understand the adversaries messing with you and you got. It's your job to wade through that and move forward and and all of this aside like you said. Let's say fine. They shouldn't have had a FIS on Carter page which the found that they should have any way. And even if you could have left out the entire steele dossier and they would have granted it. He was arrested in twenty thirteen. I think with a bunch of other Russians. One of whom is in prison. The others are on the Lam. I mean he's got a history of this and and and but you're right he was. This was approved in September. He was no longer working on the campaign. He had been fired from the campaign and also he's not in jail. None of this information that we know of although we haven't seen a lot of it was even used in it at at all in the Russia investigation because arrest in Russia investigation started July August two months before. And so I I don't even I don't even understand and not even and that's just the full on Russia. Investigation after Alexander Downer for Australia. Gave us a call and said hey heads up but even even before that they were still looking at Flynn and Manafort and and page. I mean it's not I mean I've gone over the time line with Andy McCabe several times and and they just WanNa keep trying to poke holes in it. And you're right. It's the baby with the bathwater thing. So we're where is this going? And let's not forget. Now that footnotes show that you know Lo and behold The FBI knew that some of the Christopher Steele stuff might have been planted by Russia and also another footnote Russia on understood that Christopher Steele was was preparing this dossier working with the US government. They understood that. So yeah. That's how Russian government works and by the way other governments. Know what everybody's doing too. So here's where this is going. My prediction You're GONNA see trump used this to pardon some people he he's GonNa say. We saw it in the middle of a corona press conference. These people is investigators or human scum. You know wait and see what happens. A reporter tried to ask him. You'RE GONNA part and people will see what happens he said. So we're going to see the Durham Investigation Issues Attorney Connecticut. That's been handpicked by Bar because the I didn't like the finding so hey I'm GonNa go shopping for some other investigator and and you're going to see the bar was asked recently are you is derm ever. GonNa issue a report. I don't know yeah well. It was just like he went shopping for a grand jury. Anne McCabe investigation. A did work out well for him. No so endure by the way. Durham is Durham's not some monster. He's a straight up lawyer. He's been a career professional. And I think you know if there's problems in the bureau administratively if we gotta look again at Pfizer if we if we if one or two. Fbi minions new needs to be disciplined or even indicted. Bring it on. I say but but you know what's going to happen is it's going to be strung out for the benefit of the president's reelection it it's going to be pulled out of his pocket at just the right time when he's just low enough in the polls that he needs a boost and we may never see a report written by Dr Well. Let's see what happens with Reggie Walton reviewing that unredacted Muller report today and then of course we got the May Twelfth Deutsche Bank Mazaar hearing Which I believe we'll go the right way but you know you're right. I mean they've released a handful of classified footnotes and who knows there could be classified footnotes. That say that these particular we knew what the Russian disinform plant shit was and we tagged it when we put the Pfizer application in. And it's all note there could be so many things that we don't know without releasing the entirety of the FIS application. Which can never happen. But you know they'll just continue to use it to to their advantage. There's just don't think there's a way around that The only the only counterpunch is the truth that we could be getting from from some of these Scottish cases and the Mullahs report. Who knows agreed? Agreed and I I sense a I think we're all getting pretty good at sensing desperation and the president's posture and voice. And I I tell you what when when he went into the human scum mode. Yesterday I sensed desperation Look he's down in the polls even even his supporters aren't with him on how he's handling and corona he's worried I think about Judge Walton. Where this is coming in terms of full release unredacted? Muller report. I think he's troubled. And and this is a convenient distraction and will continue to see. Yeah I think they're you know the meetings between him bar just like find me something anything and we've been saying this forever. There was a delay in g report coming out like you said and it was because the findings weren't the way that they didn't fall the way they want him to. There was a delay in the F. B. I. New York Field Office Leaks Inspector General Report. That still hasn't come out. It's a year and a half late and then of course. There's there's now a delay that I perceive at least I could be totally wrong. In the Durham Investigation. Because they were unable to also have come up with the findings. They WANNA come up with and so now it's pick and choose your declassification cherry tree time at didn't spay at the with Grenell. That's what it feels like to me. At least it's becoming it's become so transparent here. We are talking about it. We everybody's talking about the Durham is a strategy. This delay with Durham. Is it. Yeah it's unlikely. He has smoking guns. I can tell you. I've worked many a complex investigation in my career. It doesn't take this long to to discipline or charge a now former. Fbi Attorney for falsifying an email got get it bring bring it on and so you know I something is wrong with this delay and the only thing I can think of is going to be conveniently strung out so that the public can think there's something horrible happening with the deep state in the in. The intelligence community and trump has been wronged. His basis is smart enough to follow that. Anyway I mean this this falsification of an email was to say that Carter page was a source for the CIA or say he wasn't a source for the CIA and et center. Okay and you know I mean we could sit in Parse why that's important and how it separate from this why we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater but at the end of the day. Who fucking cares because nothing happened to Carter page? And he's just as just as I give to give your listeners. Some further insight into the murky world counter toss is just as I said earlier that look. It's just part of everyday life in. Mci WORK TO TO UNDERSTAND THAT? Half of what you're looking at could be planted similarly in my dealings over the years with the agency the CIA. Let me tell you this. Semantic the semantic Slicing that goes on on whether or not they're going to say someone is a source in asset a an agent Yes no he was not paid so he's really not working for us right back. I've gone back and forth and back and forth so it's possible that this confusion on this email is nothing more than this poor attorney at the euro trying to go. Wait a minute. I know. He's not a source. No He is a source. No he wasn't paid. No the agency won't admit it and this is happened numerous times in my career and it could have been as simple as you know. He flipped and turned on some of the Russians. He got caught palling around within twenty thirteen. And Oh is he a source now and oh my using the right semantics or the wrong semantics. But you're right. If they had something on this lawyer this low level lawyer would be already indicted. You actually raised another point which is sources. Go bad on you all the time and they double up they triple double on you. And so I saw I saw Sean Hannity on Fox interviewing Carter Page and praising him that that now the truth is out that you were actually working for the US. Until God bless you. Everyone had had you wrong. My response to that is I've had plenty sources. Who were faking. God bless you Sammy the bull? What an incredible man you are. God bless you for your work with the United States Federal Agency. You all right. Well thank you so much that we went a little bit overtime. I hope you don't mind. We were we. Were in a spirited discussion and I appreciate you coming on joining today. I everybody former. Fbi Assistant Director National Security. Contributor for NBC. Thank you Frank Lenzi. We love having you on stay. Well keep up the good work you to take care of yourself and yours. We'll be right back after this break with the good news blocks so stick around everybody. 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Thanks again to Frankford Lucy for spending so much time on the phone with me. I thought it was a really great interview. I liked that so much. I'm going to re air it on Muller. She wrote this weekend. So if you want to hear it twice you're going to get to so lucky you but despite all of the news that came out today we do have a lot of good news and joining me today to help deliver the good news is George Cockburn Jordan. How are you I am? Well how are you doing? I'm good. I'm good hanging in there. Hanging in there. Sweet is for twenty so that is a great day. I was just watching Harold. And Kumar appropriately. Yeah the for those of us who don't smoke weed. It's just another day to have a vodka tonic. I guess Yes yes. My mom called me. She was on Bloody Marys and I'm like the Sarong holiday. There's no. There's no holiday for alcoholics there also. I shouldn't say alcoholics people who drink alcohol Saint Patrick's Day yes. That's true I got. That's so true she gets shitty. Doesn't I suppose Cinco de Mayo? Actually every other holiday is for booze. Yeah I think the most booze is probably consumed on Christmas Eve Christmas or Easter whenever. We're all confronted most by our past life's Saint Patrick's Day on New Year's Eve a pretty good contenders serve. God that's so true. Yes especially New Year's Eve my God. How Fun will that be this year? I don't know depends on a four inside or not that's true. I was just totally projecting that we'll have some sort of normalcy by then. Hopefully at least maybe a get together of ten people or something. Yeah we may be able to have gatherings of fewer than ten. But I honestly don't know we could be in the middle of second wave That's terrible and we have to you know we might even have harder harsher restrictions that we have now. There's no way of knowing because we have a very unpredictable government and no plan so yeah that is true but we do have good news in despite of that yes. We do have good news despite every despite that but before we get to the listener good news and according divisions I do have a little Schadenfreude for you okay so this is a kind of attached to a previous story. I went over With the oil prices tanking today. And I just felt like this should go in the Schadenfreude block because on Monday Halliburton Which provides equipment and services to energy companies gave an early indication of the damage being sustained by the industry when it reported a one billion dollar loss in the first quarter compared with net income of one hundred and fifty two million in the same period a year earlier so aw Halliburton. How sad isn't that a Dick Cheney's homeys Yup? GotTa Dick Cheney joint. That's who we have a lot of people. Posited that the whole reason we destroyed Iraq was the Halliburton could rebuild it. So that's our shot and freight today so who for Halliburton of it? Sounds like again eighteenth century poem or Something D. Hours Broadway play yes much better for Halliburton. Everybody's common today. Yeah you know what? I'm so sad just beautiful. I shot someone in the face today and I don't know Burton I think this this. This'll exist years daily top at S- Boohoo for Halliburton springtime or more. It reminds me of that by Blackbird or Birdie or whatever that was from that lady in the sixties I can't remember I just remember it for a madman so good all right. Beautiful Okay Listener. Good news black. I up from tiffany. I live in Maryland under Governor Hogan. Hogan is Republican. But he isn't an asshole. He has been leading all the calls with the other governors. And I think doing a pretty good job of it. His press conference his press conferences ever reliably been informative. Serious and encouraging. I would encourage you to watch a couple of his press conferences on Youtube sued. I mean at this time of needed national unity. We need to do all. We can to not lumped good Republicans in with a bad once. Thank you for continually bringing me the news in a manageable way cool. That's nice very good news I it just popped into my head is an Margaret with bye. Bye Birdie I appreciate that. She had that weird voice by he was just weird. That's Boohoo Halliburton. We need an Margaret's Halliburton. It's funny anyway Maryland. Yes escellent and and I hope we're doing a good job at not lumping all Republicans into the same group especially in the Cova response because I know like You know Maryland wine from Ohio has been doing an excellent job. Hogan like you just said I mean. There's a lot out I can name to off the top of my head but there are quite a few who are doing the right thing but then we have somebody like Kemp. Who's GONNA open up everything like gyms and beaches and Hair Salon Shit tomorrow and Jacksonville mayor is dishonest. As the governor down in Florida they just opened up some beaches. But you know yeah good job to the people who are doing a good job. We'll definitely work to try to recognize those folks maybe to get Republicans to like. Come over more to the Democrats side. Just in terms of at least wanting to be lumped in with us during this whole fiasco we could stage you know at the end of marathon when everybody holds the ribbon and then they get to like cross the finish line and everyone's cheering and they and they break the sash in it's a whole to do and confetti falls maybe we can like recreate that for Congressional. Republicans that would be You know give them something to feel good about. You know like there's a celebration of eating for them on the other end. I feel like we need these kinds of tactics. Yeah Confetti cannons for Congressional Republicans. Exactly that will will blow it right up their ass. Just come over to this side triple cr as it's triple CR DOT org. Confetti cannons congressional Republicans Dot Org. We're going to raise money to buy to to shoot confetti cannons that Republicans. Who Do the right thing? Perfect I love it as soon as we're allowed to gather again. I'll start working on that festival. Okay it'll be like a baptism for people that would like to be reborn into a new political party. That sounds so fun. Maybe we should make it more of an event and then it'll be like it'll be like a poverty or something could be a whole thing to celebrate and then people will be more inclined. I don't know this isn't based on any real social theory here so I who knows All right from Kerry spelled K. E. R. I. that's Kuwaitis Book Kerry. My neighbor set up a sound system yesterday evening played guitar and Sang for the neighborhood for about two hours. We all hung out on our yards enjoyed the show when he finished. Oh wait did we did have this yesterday. sorry well anyway. I'll just keep going. Why not if you didn't hear yesterday's you'll good news. It is still do it. You know I was just like this is very familiar. Are there to men who are playing for neighborhoods. I'm sure there are that's conceivable but this is the exact same words from yesterday. When we finish the entire neighborhood broke into applause and cheers. It was a fantastic dental on week. there you go twice as nice. The second time next from Erica I was able to raise over a thousand dollars today with the help of some of seriously seriously generous people for project hashtag feed the frontline sack we will be delivering sixty three packs of tacos sixty five burritos and fifty enchilada boxes to medical teams this week in Sacramento. That's really cool while good. I've a friend from childhood. Who's a nurse and they she? They got a food delivery and I read her post about it and she just talked about like all the reasons why donating food to them is actually so incredibly helpful. Because it's like they hardly get any breaks at all and when they do get a break they're like shoving a ham sandwich in their face. Or something you know. Or maybe they didn't even have the time to make food at home and they're like eating from vending machines or something so it's That's really nice to do for them. All right next is from Casey. Casey says good news. My nearly seventeen year old son came to me back in January to tell me he had been having depression issues. He has already made an action plan and didn't feel it was necessary to seek outside help as a mom. You never know what you're saying gets through or not but I've talked to him openly about my struggles with depression and anxiety in the past fast forward. We checked in about a month after the January discussion and his action plan was working now during the pandemic. It's been clear that his depression is setting back in but he came to me again. He told me he had made an appointment with his guidance. Counselor we also talked to my sister together. Who is a school psychologist? It's all very scary right now in my heart breaks for him. But you know what it's huge. The seventeen year old boy can say out loud. I have mental health issues. Mom I need help. I am proud very cool. That is really. That is a very very mature thing. Yeah it really is especially just with the masculinity men are supposed to constantly be wearing and to us as a society masculinity means not talking about that stuff and that's what that's what it means to a lot of people just being strong in general is to to not talk about it but you're absolutely right it is very strong and talk about it and a lot of better of an outcome typically. So Heck yes go Casey and go. Casey's son finally for good news. We have from anonymous today. I am six months sober bad ass awesome. That is so awesome. Awesome an and congratulations for being able to maintain that during the lockdown. I know I know that has to probably be hard definitely. Yeah a lot of strength to you. Keep it up killing it all right. That's good news next week. Our corentin confession segment got a few those things for sending those in tweet them at us. Daily beans pod on twitter. I up from Jan Jan says most days. I wear my nighttime pajamas until about four PM. I love that and then do you switch today Jim Night. I'm Jim well you know. I feel that too at four. Pm What even the point of pants. What's the point of pants at all? Really I mean once every week or two I you know I had to have to go out into the world to get stuff from the store but I mean stand home. It's jammies all time jam. I agreed on Jamie Jamie time. All right next up from Danielle. My husband recently set up our home gym downstairs in the Family Room. We have yoga mats a stationary bike and also a weight bench however since our new smart TV is upstairs and we keep finding good movies to watch literally haven't uses once. That's funny yeah. My treadmill arrives tomorrow and I'm already having a funeral for it. Ooh Nice. What kind did you get? I got the well. Bowflex does a really really good discount. Military discount military veterans so I went with theirs and they had free shipping on it too. And it's a heavy thing. Hell yeah and it's got the full heart rate monitor. It's like a full on Jim Style. A treadmill and I you know I you know before this all happened. I was going to orange theory. And you know we're running a good thirty minutes a day and They closed down the park where Iran that close that path down. And all that's left is to run on the streets and as you know San Diego. Streets ARE NOT SAFE TO RUN ON. Not because of you know crazy crime or anything but just because we have potholes like it's like like we like it snows here and we salt the roads. It's that bad and I I can't figure out why we get rain once every ten years and then and then we get like no snow and I don't understand why the roads are so bad but they are and there's also I've noticed a lot of other people out jogging and I know when you're jogging. You do slough a lot of virus if you have it and you shake it around and it goes travels much further than it would If you're just walking and then of course we generally people who are jogging. Can't wear masks because you need oxygen to breathe so it just didn't seem like the safest option So I opted for the treadmill. Nice good call. That's going to be fun. That'd be nice to just have in general even when all of this is over. Yeah All right next up from David. I've been working from home since the start of March over the last couple of weeks I've been spending between five and ten hours a week playing video games and browsing sites. I would not bring up from work and generally completely slacking off if it helps. I have also been writing my employees about work time schedules productivity and have been instead focused on how they are holding up during the lockdown and how they and their families are doing plus pushing each of them to learn and grow in this time. We can't force productivity. That is the best boss mentality. I love that. Yep I love that so much especially right now when people are already like struggling just with staying at home and stuff that just it never feels good to have people hovering over you let alone when you're already struggling so much like just get the fuck off my back dude again. I'm figuring out my life all right. I'll get the shit done. I'll do it if I don't then sorry. I guess there's other ways to handle that as an issue but I really appreciate. I appreciate that approach. Very much agreed. Yes finally from Courtney. I recently made brownies of my two year old daughter. After report the battery into the paint. Bake I hid behind the counter so she can see me while I ate the remaining better from the bull without her. I don't care that she's only two. I'm not sharing to add another layer of shame. I'm also pregnant in the batter head raw eggs which I'm not supposed to eat zero fucks given right now. You can't have raw eggs. I didn't even know that I didn't know that. Either that's interesting. That's so funny now. I feel like the fact that you're pregnant definitely gives you a pass on the whole hoarding of the batter Yeah I think so. I think it's only to be expected. Really a yeah. In fact I think it's it's should be a reward re- I Yeah it should be mandatory. Yes I agree I agree. One thousand sent yes. It should be mandatory cake batter for everybody. You know I think actually make cookie dough and cake batter flavors like desserts. That don't have raw eggs in them. I believe I've seen that on shark tank so something for you to look up maybe All right yes. That is our courting. Confessions that aren't good news. Block love it. I'm still my mind is still blown by the no riots. Oh Yeah Yeah I mean I knew about I knew about Sushi and I knew about not cleaning out. Cap Boxes Interesting had no idea about no riots. Yeah I guess it's just due to the risk of Salmonella. Yeah I suppose once you once you cook the batter. It's okay because they're no longer raw eggs right. Yes okay. Apparently there's been a major reduction in this risk since two thousand one so that's good good. Good I'm glad to hear that because I know that like my ex wouldn't allow me to cook import medium rare because he didn't believe that the standards change. That was okay now to have it that way you know And you had to cook it all the way through. Maybe it's one of those situations. I don't know you know what though I mean. Better safe than sorry. Yeah why not either way for this one? One time we say you're good vine while all right that's all got good that's And I only had the one who Halliburton shelter for Schadenfreude for you so That that wraps up our good news segment and are courting confessions again. I like Jordan. Said if you haven't just tweet tweet at US or send them to us By you can. You can connect through our website. Which is what daily beans pod dot com or militia dot com. You just google us. You'll find us. We're we're not hard to find. We aren't hidden And contacts and send us. Send US your confessions. And you're good news stories. We love to hear them. And thank you and and you can also send us if you have like things. You're concerned about or if you just need to talk you know or if you need someone to vent to please just reach out contact us. We're here that's what we sweat What we're here for other than that any other. Final thoughts Jordan No I don't think so we will see tomorrow. Yep We'll be here doing the thing And man. 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Trump reverses, says Mueller shouldn't testify; US sends carrier group towards Iran, N. Korea test-fires missiles, Venezuela's leadership is in limbo; 2020 Dems court black voters in key early states; Michael Cohen now inmate 86067-054 at NY fed prison

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Trump reverses, says Mueller shouldn't testify; US sends carrier group towards Iran, N. Korea test-fires missiles, Venezuela's leadership is in limbo; 2020 Dems court black voters in key early states; Michael Cohen now inmate 86067-054 at NY fed prison

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Reversing course, now saying the special counsel should not testify before the American people can the president actually stop Muller from talking and alarming move the US sending an aircraft carrier to warn Iran. And it's just one of many crises across the globe. As experts worried the president and his top national security team might not all be on the same page, plus President Trump's former fixer Michael Cohen turning in his plaid blazer for an orange prison jumpsuit, a look at Cohen's new reality as he starts his three year sentence today. Welcome to the lead. I'm Jake tapper. We begin with the politics lead. President Trump now declaring special counsel, Robert Muller, should not testify before congress and the American people about what Muller and his team uncovered this comes despite the president's previous false claim that Muller completely exonerated him. And the president's previous position that he would leave it all up to the attorney general Bill Barham decide on Wednesday. The House Judiciary committee will vote on whether to hold bar in contempt for not handing over the full unredacted Muller report and the underlying evidence, and this all comes as President Trump is warning two years of his presidency have been stolen feeding into a pattern of tweets and behavior that critics call irrational, and the speaker of the house expressing concerns that the president may not ultimately be ready to give up power peacefully unless he is defeated overwhelmingly twenty twenty you might remember Nancy Pelosi is not the first person divorce such concerns given my experience working. Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in twenty twenty that they will never be a peaceful transition of power. Michael Cohen, incidentally, reported to federal prison today for the crimes he pleaded guilty to including some he claims he had been instructed to do with the order of individual one also known as President Trump C N N's, Pamela Brown kicks off our coverage today from this very busy day at the White House. Pamela brown. Joining us, Pamela, what is going on? How is the president handling all these questions about whether or not he's going to do when it comes to the end of his term, whether it comes in twenty one or twenty five well, there've been a lot of questions facing the president after a weekend tweet storm, and that was one of the things that came up this interview, the Nancy Pelosi did signaling that the president wouldn't easily give up power if he loses and the twenty twenty election something else that the president has been asked about is. Of course, Robert Muller, and the fact that he appears to be changing course now Jake now saying the Robert Muller should not testify publicly. This seems to be reversal, of course, because previously he said he would leave it up to the attorney general. A power struggle underway over special counsel, Robert Muller, and whether he'll be allowed to testify before congress. A key member of the House Judiciary committee says the committee wants Muller to appear before it and nine days may fifteenth, but nothing has been agreed to yet. From him. Testify, no, reduce for the dims a change from just three days ago when he said the decision wasn't his to make. I don't know that's up to attorney general who I think has done a fantastic job at Terni general William bar already addressed it. I've already said publicly I have no objection to him. Don, Mcgann, President Trump's posts Mullah report ir possibly prompting him to re tweet evangelical leader, Jerry Falwell junior. Who said quote, Trump should have two years added to his first term because of the cloud cast by the Russia investigation, calling it payback for time stolen by this corrupt failed coup. The notion of a presidential power grab addressed by house. Speaker Nancy Pelosi telling the New York Times, she's worried Trump may not willingly step down. If he loses his twenty twenty reelection bid, quote, he would poison the public mind he would challenge each of the races. He would say you can't see these people we have joined knock you late against that. We have to be prepared for that lay out a strategy. She believes can win Democrats back the White House. And the Senate taking impeachment off the table and quote own the centre-left own the mainstream and Senator Lindsey Graham and ally of President Trump told CNN today, he's opened a public testimony from Robert Muller, but specifically on the phone call with the Torney general bar Graham said he hasn't heard back from mother after sending them a letter last week, but is open to testimony anyway Muller wants to provide it, but again just on that phone call Jake or Pamela Brown. Thank you so much. Joining me now is democratic congressman David cellini of Rhode Island. He's on both the House Judiciary committee and the foreign relations committee congressman thanks so much for joining us. Help us clear up the confusion. There was some confusion over the weekend about when exactly Robert Muller will testify before the House Judiciary committee. You said the committee proposed may fifteenth, and quote hope the special counsel will agree to it, unquote. Has he agreed to it? And do you know, what might be a hold up? No, he has not agreed to it. I know there are ongoing discussions. The chairman has proposed the fifteenth and set aside that day, and we hope of the special counsel agree to appear on that day and testify before the American people is just an issue of scheduling or does the special counsel Mahler have any issues about testifying publicly? I just don't think an agreement has been reached by Mr. mall has not agreed to come on that date. It's unclear whether he intends to come again their discussions ongoing. The chairman has invited him on the fifteenth set aside that day, and I know they're in conversations, but we hope very much that mR Muller will agree to come agree to testify and come on the fifteenth. So he can speak directly to the members of the committee and to the American people President Trump now says that he does not think special counsel Muller should testify would that stop your committee from being able to bring him in Muller is still as of right now, a Justice department employees. Yeah. I mean, it's not clear to me originally, you may recall, the president said that's up to the attorney general. And then when the attorney general said publicly that he had no objection to the special counsel appearing the presence. Suddenly changed his mind and tweeted that he doesn't think Mr. Muller should should appear. Fortunately, it's not up to the president. The committee has ability to bring witnesses before the committee that are necessary to do our work. But I think something more pernicious going on here. The president wants a fight about this stuff because frankly, wants to distract from the work that the Democrats have gotten in the first one hundred days, we ran on the gender for the people to drive on healthcare costs raise family, incomes. Take on the corruption in Washington, we've passed legislation the most dramatic ethics reform since Watergate we've passed out of committee will bring to the floor legislation to reduce the cost of prescription drugs. Infrastructure bills are in the making we've reauthorized the violence against women act and equal pay for work. So we've done all this work. Have you had way through the Senate? Have you passed anything that's made it? No, that's the I mean, there's a number of things, but there are a number of major proposals that Mitch McConnell has said will die in the graveyard of the Senate or he's the grim reaper. Whatever said, these are the priorities of the American people. We ran on this agenda to improve people's lives, and the president ought to be focuses attention on making those things become a reality. Talking to the Republican leaders in the Senate, and I think what the president's trying to do is to Strack away from the attention of the work that Democrats have been doing to address the economic anxieties of the American people and to deliver on lower healthcare costs, bigger paychecks and honesty in government. So he wants to distract with a big fight about whether the special counsel should come or not we're going to do our oversight work. But at the same time, we're delivering on the promises we made to the American people just seems incongruous because you're making the argument that you're trying to hold a hearing with Robert Muller talking about the Muller report. And that the president is the one trying to distract from other issues that don't have. Do with Mahler. Your committee is the one talking about bringing Robert Muller before the American people that that's not what President Trump's talking about. No. But my point is he wants a fight about this stuff. Look, we have oversight responsibilities. We intend to do it. Our oversight is directly dependent aren't our ability to compel witnesses to come before the committee and testify under oath and to produce documents that are necessary to conduct our oversight. If it's the executive branch has the ability to stop that it will have effectively extinguished congressional oversight. So we have to do both things. But the president ought not be stonewalling, our oversight responsibilities and ought not stand in the way of Mr. Molly coming before the committee because the American people have a right to know the facts they have a right to hear directly from the special counsel. No one is above the law, and we will require a follow facs wherever they lead us. And I think this stonewalling effort is really part of the president to both prevent us from getting to the truth, but also to distract from the work. That's being done by the Democrats on behalf of. The American people. We're congressman the attorney general testified before the Senate last week, but he did not testify before the house. And the reason was that he did not want to be questioned by committee lawyers. I do not remember anytime during the Obama administration when any cabinet secretary or head of a department was ever quizzed or are asked questions of by committee lawyers. I only remember members of the house or the Senate asking questions can you explain why that was an important hill dry on so important that it actually meant that bar did not go before your committee. Well, I think I Jake it's really important understand the house rules permit. This the committee voted for it. And congress has a responsibility to set the rules for the collection of evidence. Witnesses don't get to dictate to congress. How we're going to do that work. The reason we thought this was important. It was done with casper Weinberger, Ed Meese. What's happened before the reason we thought it was useful as because this is a witness that evades answering questions you need additional time to. Follow up and rather than doing this, five minutes back and forth. We thought in addition to that we ought to have staff attorneys half an hour from the Republicans half an hour for the Democrats to drill down a little more deeply be sure that we get the evidence and information we need to make informed judgments about our work. The real question is what is the attorney general afraid of? Why is he unwilling to be questioned by a staff lawyer so raises questions not about why do we wanna collect evidence this way? But why is he afraid to come in and ask her questions? I'm sure it's because he mischaracterized the findings in the report. I'm sure it's because he had a press conference at nine thirty to try to spin the report before it was released. He also said he didn't know what Mr. have thought about his conclusions. When we now know Mr. Muller wrote to him in a very strong letter had a phone call with him expressing concern about the way he characterized. So I understand why he may not become comfortable coming for the committee has a lot of tough questions to answer committee guests to make those judgments not the witness. It just seems like those are points that you would be fully capable of doing without a committee lawyer, but congressman. David cellini of Rhode Island democrat. Thank you so much your time. We really appreciate it. Hundreds of former federal prosecutors are publicly saying President Trump should have been charged with obstruction of Justice. But there is a big if two their claim stay with us. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. 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Now, a stinging rebuke more than three hundred former former federal prosecutors from both democratic and Republican administrations in fact from every administration dating all the way back to the Eisenhower administration coming together to state that in their view, President Trump obstructed Justice in a letter released just hours ago, they write quote each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in special counsel. Robert Muller's report would indicate of any other person not covered by the office of legal counsel policy against indicting sitting president result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of Justice, unquote. Let's discuss Margaret Hoover. Let me start with you. Do you consider this to be significant? It is significant one has to think through Margaret who look. Yep. Gotta jake. If you're going out. Guessing significant anytime anytime you've got you've got federal investigators saying this is obstruction of Justice. That is absolutely worth considering these people are not these are trained, investigators are federal law enforcement officials. It is important is significant. However, you have to also think why right. Of course, we want. Nobody's above the law. Not even the president. There's this question though, about what is the appropriate and the proper way to ensure that that is the case and do fall in in in the camp that one off to prosecute a sitting president, or do you believe that the president should serve his term? And then he should be held to Justice. They're they're varying widely different theories on this. But of course, he should not be above the law attorney general bar said it his last hearing last week that he has no problem. If Muller testifies, and the president seemed to go along with that in the Oval Office on Friday, he said it's up to bar, but then on Sunday the president. Said he does not think Mahler should be allowed to testify. Do. We know why the change of heart all the president did not like watching billboard go and testify. He didn't like the way he's told people that Democrats treated, the attorney general, and essentially he sees this as a way to poke them in the eye is the Democrats as congressman Sicily, and it was just laying out. There are making repeated requests to the administration either for people to come testify or whatnot. But I do think going back to this letter as a big effect on what Bill said because I don't think this letter is going to change Bill bars mind, and that's really who the ultimate was the decision maker in this whether or not the president had obstructed Justice. He said he did not think. So even though there were multiple instances in this report that Robert Muller said could you possibly Mel to obstruction of Justice Bill was not only just arguing the big aspects of this even was arguing the smallest like whether or not the president had actually tried to fire, Don Mcgann, which in his eyes. He was seeing it as the president seeing simply saying he had conflicts of interest. So it doesn't make it interesting. Hear that all of those all of these people even people who were appointed by Republican presidents do agree with this that Bill bars to change his mind. Go. I think that's not the purpose of this letter. It's not to change Bill bars mind that that train has sailed. I think the underlying issue is that this shows that there is a bipartisan consensus that Bill bars assessment is outside of norms. And that opinion, the reason it's so key is bar kept insisting that it had nothing to do with Muller's decision to punt the question of obstruction. It had everything to do of decision to pump the question of obstruction. So it helps illustrate that we're outside of normal democratic norms with this AG, and this and this report and this president Bacardi Democrats on the judiciary committee. They've scheduled this vote Wednesday to hold attorney general bar, and contempt of congress for not turning over the full unredacted version of the Muller report to congress are you concerned at all that the House Judiciary committee has become just very partisan very quickly the way, they're handling all of this. Well, I'm not concerned that they become too partisan too quickly because a large swath of the American public do not believe that Bill borrow the president of the United States to Margaret's point is above the law. So that's I I do think so though that we have to be certain Democrats that we take this task extremely seriously. I think it's fair to chastise Representative Cohen for taking a bucket of fried chicken to a committee hearing, I mean that was this patently absurd. But what we should be doing is moving forward with contempt charges on this point. And I'm firmly believe Bill lied. I don't think that that's a question. I don't I don't want to go down this path of engaging in quote, unquote, falsehoods or misrepresenting facts here in South Carolina. We simply say the man live, and because it to the United States Congress. I believe that's a one thousand and one violation. And I think that we should move forward with with other proceedings to to get to the root in the bottom of this. Caitlyn as anybody who covers the White House or follows the White House knows sometimes the president just says things he doesn't necessarily mean them to be an order an instruction. Do you think that the White House will actually draw a line in the sand? When it comes to preventing Muller from testifying is that something that the president will fight in court, if need be well what you're saying right now is Bill bar in the hot seat because he's going to be have to be the one that makes the decision here, and whether or not he takes the president's tweet as a director of or if he has a conversation with the president about this is where we go from here. Because of course, the president has said he would defer to Bill bar right now Bill bar is still leading the Justice department, and Robert Muller is still an employee of the Justice department. So that also throws over wrench and things because typically the Justice department would feel these requests from congress for someone who works for the Justice department to go and testify. Now, the question here is wind is Robert Muller leave his position because when they ended his investigation in a statement, this special counsel's office said that he would wrap up his work in a matter of days. Jake is you know, he's still been driving into work every day. So once he leaves, and he's a private citizen things will be much different everyone. Stick around. We got a lot and. To talk about just hold that thought the United States making military moves very close to Iran. That's not the only international crisis. President Trump is facing right now. Stay with us. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke VIN seen are the producers behind the L television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James de Angelo, the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelve subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Worldly now, President Trump giving global markets the jitters with a tweet that could signal he's reigniting a trade war with China as a delegation from Beijing is headed to Washington DC, the president vowed to raise tariffs tweeting quote. The ten percent will go up to twenty five percent on Friday, and as C N N's, Alex Marquardt now reports the showdown with China comes at the same time as other international confrontations involving the US. A series of global crises leading to military moves and tensions among President Trump's team on how to deal with them. I iran. The us is now sending the USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN carrier strike group and bombers to the Middle East. Because of specific and credible intelligence about Iranian forces and proxies targeting US troops in Syria Iraq, and at sea US officials tell C N N White House national security adviser, John Bolton announcing the move. In a statement on Sunday, saying the United States is not seeking war with uranian regime, but we are fully prepared to respond to any attack officials tell CNN the Pentagon wanted the announcement to come from the White House to carry more weight as a warning we have continued to see activity that leads us to believe that there's esscalation that maybe taking place, and so we're taking all the appropriate actions both from a security perspective and well as. Our ability to make sure that the president has a wide range of options and the event this up they should actually take place another flashpoint North Korea conducting its first missile tests since 2017 these satellite images obtained by CNN showing the trail of smoke from what experts say is a short range ballistic missile. The tests are the boldest provocation by North Korean dictator Kim Jong UN after the failed summit with President Trump in February we still believe that there's an opportunity to get into Goshi. It it outcome where we get fully verified denuclearization. Then there's Venezuela. The administration dealing with the fallout from the failed uprising by opposition leader one Guido leaving the Madero regime in power for now. Behind the scenes, the president pushing back on his advisors, including Bolton for publicly teasing US military intervention today. Secretary pump Heo meeting with his Russian counterpart after blaming Russia for convincing Madero to stay in. Venezuela and many cases were fanning the flame in conflict areas, where we in fact, should be enlisting perhaps the help of our allies and contributing to reducing the tension as opposed to exposing it it seems like there's a lot of bluster. I it's almost a ready shoot aim approach and Jake that strike group heading towards Iran. We'll be sent to one of the most sensitive spots on earth, the straight of Hormuz now US officials told CNN that the threat that they saw from Iran demanded this kind of large and vocal response. One official telling us this had to be taken seriously, Jake. All right. Alex marquardt? Thanks so much. I want to bring in Phil Mudd right now, former CIA Kennedy. Ariza official Phil there's new activity in Iran, North Korea leadership struggle in Venezuela. Not to mention, Israel and Gaza all of them fragile hotspots, which if any do you see as the most pressing situation? North korea. I mean, if you look at all the variety of threats ju just outline it's like a spaghetti of national security problems. But there's a way to simplify as Jake and ask yourself one question that is which problem that you just cited has the most likelihood to affect an American family. Venezuela doesn't Gaza doesn't. I don't think Iran does. But the, but the fact that North Korea has an unpredictable leader who's shown that capability to use missiles, and maybe even nuclear devices to reach US soil to me that puts that foreign away above the rest of the problems we face he can hit us where it hurts American soil, the other problems don't get their Jake over and over we have heard national security officials in the United States. Including secretary of state Pompeo, say something and only to be contradicted by President Trump. I it just happened again a few days ago when it comes to how involved Russia is in Venezuela. And then again, also on how Russia interfered in the two thousand sixteen election is does it matter. Does it? I mean, President Trump obviously sets the policy, but if he undermines or seems to be contradicting things said by secretary of state pond pale or national security adviser Bolton does that have an effect. Sure, I think it doesn't a couple of ways number one on the private diplomatic level. If you go as the president did insult NATO about the in the conversation about how much NATO contributes to defense in Europe. And then somebody comes behind the president says actually, he didn't really mean that what would you say if you were NATO, I think I would tell the negotiator, pardon me who speaks for the US government. There's a bigger issue here though, Jake, and that is the president's power to speak to the American people. You mentioned the president speaking or not speaking about Russian intervention the American election who was supposed to tell the American people how they should protect themselves going into twenty twenty. It's not going to be the CIA director. It's not going to be FBI director. It's not gonna be homeland security. We don't have a secretary the president has a powerful capability to affect how the American people view stuff that's coming in on their Facebook feed. He won't use it. So who's going to tell the American people? I guess nobody. The president had secured by Bolton announce that US strike group was being deployed towards Iran. The Pentagon did not make that announcement of a Bolton to does that mean. In anything that raised the level of significance to you. It does if you live in Washington DC, anybody who follows this stuff for a living knows that John Bolton is seen as an interventionist. Curiously the president is not. So I can't quite figure out. Do we want to get in Iran, while the president says, let's get out of Syrian Afghantistan mean what's the strategy here? But my point is bolt scene interventionist while we don't have a secretary of defense you can speak. I could see him wanting to get out there that is Bolton and saying what I've said all along throughout my entire career about concerns about Iran has been validated. I'm at the at the at the pointy end of the spear in terms of direct in the US government to take those threats seriously. That's what I see. All right film. Thank you so much for your time. Appreciate it, sir. Joe Biden is going all buddy buddy on the campaign trail bleeding-heart on one relationship as he courts a block of voters. He will need to win the nomination. What am I talking about? Stay with us. The cases we gotta find who wrote this note, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which glows when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifles, and which man was telling the truth for renchik files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your fix. Hard twenty twenty lead. Now Democrats on the campaign trail today making their pitches to one block of voters essential critical vital to winning the democratic nomination. African-americans Senator Cory Booker broker also unveiling a sweeping plan to address gun violence as Senator Kamala Harris slams, voter suppression and former vice president Joe Biden reminds voters of his buddy, Barack CNN's Kyung. La picks up our coverage from the campaign trail. Aiming to chip away at former vice president, Joe Biden, Democrats are actively courting the critical African American votes. My deeper answer is Anita help south bend mirror. Pete buddha. Speaking to black voters in South Carolina today says the Trump administration has recalled and uglier time in America's history. We have to both confront and move past those forces that have now been brought back into the lights a similar sentiment from Senator Kamala Harris and Detroit speaking to the end W C P without motor suppression. Stacey Abrams would be the governor of Georgia. Andrew gillum is the governor of Florida the path to victory for Democrats has Harris is by energizing women and black voters are party is now white or black Hispanic or Asian immigrant or indigenous. It is all of us. But. Right after that speech. I would vote for Joe Joe Biden, I think he probably could be the one that would be down withdrawn. I watched my buddy Barack stand up there Biden leaning into the well of support built by the president. He served reminding black voters what is at stake last year, twenty four states introduced during active at least seventy bills to curtail the right to vote and guess what mostly directed at quote, people of color you sit. We got Jim crow sneaking back in. Also this morning bicker unveiled his national gun violence prevention plan. His proposal would make gun licences a federal standard like a driver's license or passport, including fingerprints, interview and gun safety. Course it's needed in neighborhoods. Like his Booker told Jake tapper in Newark, New Jersey this section of the street was one of those violence places in New Jersey when I first moved here just minutes later to. People wounded and drive by shooting nearby. And in just a couple of minutes. We are anticipating the Senator Kamala Harris will be ending her Michigan trip here with teacher. She's going to be holding town all Jake with the American federation of teachers is the union with one point seven million members, many of them women and women of color, Jake or along the campaign trail, thanks so much. Let's bring back my experts, John Avalon. Let me start with you. You heard in that piece. Senator Kamala Harris claiming that Stacey Abrams. Andrew gillum would have been elected. If there weren't voter suppression. You you heard vice president Joe Biden say that Jim crow is quote sneaking back in obviously, those are popular sentiments before the crowds that they were talking to. But is there any risk for Democrats here? Well, first of all on this specific claims, I mean, Stacey Abrams can credibly point to the fact that her opponent sexual then secretary did at Georgia did a lot of kicking folks off voter rolls. There was a lot of invoking of old racial Specter's in the south. He's now. Georgia. I think there has been a rollback of voting rights in country beginning with supreme court and floating down to a lot of statewide efforts. That folks got to keep their eye on that said the larger question of electability isn't just about that the larger question about electability is about appealing voters who voted for Obama in the past then flipped at Trump, then around two hundred six counties across this country. Those who Democrats need to appeal to to win back the White House, Margaret. Margaret did you want to weigh in? Yeah. He can't see me shaking my head. But the truth is John Avalon and the truth is about Stacey Abrams race is that she lost by fifty three thousand votes, and it is very difficult to prove a counterfactual that fifty three thousand people were first of all not kicked off the voter rolls. But also, the suppression that does exist in Georgia, and it does need to be fixed. And by the way, good for Stacey Abrams for instituting a lawsuit to litigate the results and to find out is discovery through discovery. They're going to find out exactly the extent of the voter suppression in Georgia. It's unclear that that would have made the difference. And what the risk. I think you're getting out. Jake is the risk is that it does shake the foundations it gives people further further lack of confidence in the institutions of our democracy that our elections are fair Bacar. Do you want any way? Aac? I want to weigh in and I love both both Margaret and John, but they're both wrong. In fact, if you wanna talk about voter suppression, you want to talk about if you wanna if you wanna talk about Jim crow sneaking back in the state of Florida just passed a poll tax a few weeks ago. And we we want to talk about voter suppression in Georgia. I mean, not only were they can people off a lines. But in black communities you had up to four and five hour waits. You has voting machines that did not even have electric strips that you can plug into and so that was very prevalent to John's to John's point about electability just just quickly. I think that's one of the more absurd. Talking points that the media is getting caught up in right now. And the reason being is because at this point in two thousand seven there was a another black guy with a skinny black guy with a funny name name, Barack Obama that no one thought was electable. And the fact of the matter is no one no one needs to be picking between those Trump Obama voters and focusing on black voters. The reason the reason that I say that is because we get caught up. We get caught up in the fact that the last person to be president a democratic president of the. Two decades was a black guy. And that's always left that there's a really important distinction. We've gotta make here when we're talking about electability. I'm not talking about race. Or at all. I'm talking about ideology, I'm talking about approach, and there is a LeVine debate going on as you know, inside the Democratic Party. I think Bronco bum was eminently electable not only evidenced by the fact that he was elected twice, but that he reached out, and he drew brew broad coalitions together. That's that's the heart of the question of electability to me is nothing to do with race and one of the other questions here Kaelin Collins is that when people talk about electability there were people in two thousand sixteen saying there is absolutely no way, we as Republicans should nominate Donald Trump. He can't get elected. He's not electable same thing with Barack Obama in two thousand eight we Democrats we can elect him. It doesn't matter what the argument may made both the last two presidents people in their parties said that this person was not electable. So we don't know what's electable, really Kaitlyn. No, we don't. And I think that is. A big lesson that the two thousand sixteen election taught a lot of people in why people don't assume things anymore because Donald Trump was someone who the Trump administration and his Republican allies will remind you regularly people did not think could win. And in fact, there were a lot of people who voted for him. Now. The question is the president is not going to running Hillary Clinton this year. So that or in the next election, and that is why you've seen the White House focus so much on people like Joe Biden who they think could win over his voters or everyone stick around from being the president's fixer to now being known by his inmate number. We're going to take a look at Michael cones botchy playing life inside the prison known as club fed. That's next. Speaker you remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN in our national lead. Today once known as the president's fixer Michael Cohen now goes by inmate number eight six zero six seven dash zero five four and tonight Cohen we'll spend his first night at three years in prison after pleading guilty to tax evasion. Bank fraud lying to congress and campaign finance violations, including payments to stormy Daniels, which Cohen maintains was done at the direction of the president also known charging documents as individual one CNN's. Athena jones. Now takes a look at what Cohen's new life will be like us. He bunks with the likes of the fire festivals Billy McFarland and the jersey shores this situation. Michael Cohen getting his first taste of life in the federal lockup after arriving at this correctional facility in Otis Ville, New York in a black SUV, Michael can you come over here hours earlier, President Trump's former personal lawyer and fixer facing a crush of cameras as he bid farewell to his New York apartment. Delivering a pointed message to his former boss, I hope that when I rejoined my family and friends that the country will be in a place without Zena phobia in just this and lies at the helm of our country. Come when requested to surface three year sentence at Otis Ville, which has been called a castle behind bars. And according to Forbes magazine, one of America's cushy us lockups the prison about seventy miles from New York City houses, some eight hundred sixty inmates onto campuses, a medium security prison and a minimum security section some former inmates have compared to a summer camp where they don't lock the doors and. Owners aren't fenced-in? It is a popular pin for white collar criminals like Billy McFarland convicted of fraud in two thousand eighteen after helping organizers the disastrous fire music festival. Jersey shores, Michael the situation soaring. Tino is also here serving time for tax evasion. He was all smiles and recent photos his wife posted on Instagram showing off his biceps while posing in prison garb home. What is expected to be housed in the minimum security section where he'll spend part of his day at a work assignment like cleaning or food service will be subject to frequent inmate counts, but will also be allowed to participate in titties like tennis botchy ball and shoes as he departed for his new digs Coen shared. This thought about his future with reporters. There still remains much to be told. And I look forward to the day that I can share the truth. And thank you very much. Now, a former a felon in federal prison consultant who's had clients come to Otis Ville, he says he's had twenty clients come to Otis villain calls. It the best prison camp on the east coast. He said Cohen's time could go by a lot faster than he things. And the smart move would be to write a book, this consultant said it could be a bestseller that would help co and get back on his feet when this is all over Jake. All athena. All right. Athena. Jones standing outside that prison that Michael Cohen. Now Paul's thank you so much coming up the lions and Tigers and bears Ono the haunting new report warning a million plant and animal species could be gone. Just a blink of an ice. Stay with us. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with bollandbranch, the upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. 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That are filled it plastic waste and pesticide runoff has created over four hundred ocean dead zones while he trap and pollution, fills the sky at record levels making earth's climate more unpredictable by the year, there's many that like gross domestic product as an economic measure. But this is not a measure of the wealth of the whoa. So the authors are calling for a seismic shift and how humans consume and how economies work starting. Now. I also asked why the urgency the cufflinks these cufflinks watches show me and remind me we have no time so waste the time. For action is now what we would like and the end of this report is to really give the world. The real message of hope we don't want that people feel discouraged that there is nothing that can be done that we've lost the battle because we have no lost the battle. The and if given a chance nature will reconquer its rights, and we'll prevail. 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I have been called a surrogate at the time too in that campaign and I didn't have. I have communication with the Russians to get involved with Putin. Have nothing to do with putting out never spoken to. I don't know anything about him other than he will. Respect me Russia. If you're listening I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing so it is political. Your Communist know Mr Green. Communism is just a red herring like all members of the oldest profession. I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to muller she wrote. I'm your host Ag. Today we have news on the FIFA the Fisk the foreign intelligence surveillance court That's the court. Granted the warrants on Carter page remember those and we have news about more shakeups with inspectors general specifically Atkinson from the Ukraine scandal fame that led to trump's impeachment and the oversight. Inspector General of the five hundred billion dollar Treasury Corona Virus Corporate Relief Fund Corporate Welfare Fund. I should call it. I'll be joined later by Glenn. Kirschner thirty year former Federal Prosecutor worked twenty four years. I think at the DC. Us Attorney's office. And he and I are going to discuss the big news for In the in the Muller World this week the release of the unredacted Muller report to Judge Reggie Walton. And we'll have Jordan Coburn. Join US remotely for hot notes and So that's sort of what we're doing today. I obviously I'm here sheltering in place To stay at home order. We've been doing this in California for a couple of weeks now I think I'm getting used to it but I can't tell because I also might be going mildly insane so Anyway that being said I just wanted to everyone to understand that We are Isolating and that's why we are going to be taking Jordan's hot notes separately. She's not here in the room with me and we're doing not because it's the right thing to do for all of our healthcare workers frontline workers essential workers Thinking about them. And so you should do and I know that you are because if you're listening to this you're awesome. We do have a lot of news today but before we get to it. Let's go over some corrections. Shall we say I made a mistake? all right. So thank you for sending in these corrections. We'd like to try to get everything right here as know we're not lawyers or doctors. Well I'm a doctor but like a Ross doctor from friends not an MD. And you know I as Comedians. I JUST WANNA make sure we're getting the news right. Since we're comedians delving into the world and from Kristen S. She says good a from Australia. Medical equipment like ventilators is electrically checked when it is received by a health department but often function isn't shacked until it is used. Minimal functions are checked by technicians yearly but all breaks and repairs are usually detected by nurses when they're being used as the equipment breaks. Also by the way you are my sanity. I'm a nurse and my responsibility is to maintain stock levels and keep equipment. Oh good Lord Grim so feel for you And To responsibility to maintain stock levels and keep equipment running. Nothing is proactive. Everything is reactive. It was difficult during the before times. And it's impossible now. If you want more clarification on this whole process feel free to contact me only so much. I can say in five hundred characters. Thank you very much for everything that you're doing. Kristen I appreciate that I know everyone does from Meredith Jay. Thank you for all your reporting during this really difficult time. You had a good news story earlier this week about stay about stay on the Cova related abortion ban in Texas while sadly that ban has been reinstated and similar bands are being tied by pro-life governments in others tried by pro-life governments and other states access to safe abortion is essential It's essential healthcare in a human right. Sorry for the bummer. You guys rock all right. Thank you for that correction That's a sad one under his eye. Okay from Allison and Sally and Jean. I am Rhode. Islander Governor Cuomo's assertion that Rhode Island has repealed the practice of pulling over cars with New York plates as false. It's just been expanding to cover all travelers from out of state. Contrary to the rumors. New Yorkers are not being turned away or rounded up and arrested but they're info is being taken down and they're being ordered to self quarantine for fourteen days Wherever they're staying in Rhode Island. The legality of this is suspect. Yes but we haven't yet descended all the way into fascism. Also Fridays cocktail hour was a blast. We definitely we're definitely a little stir crazy so being able to stream a live event interactive something to be excited about we look forward to this bright spot next. Friday as well. Thank you I had a blast to. She's referring to our Friday. Pajama Jam. Cuny corentin cocktail hour. Bonanza I think is what I call and we're doing that every Friday at four. Pm Pacific Time it's for patrons and if you're not patron you should become one and if you can't totally understand these are tough times but we appreciate all the support and those are a lot of fun. We have over five hundred people interacting asking questions. It was pretty amazing. It's like a live show But you know remote from Elizabeth Hello Fame Fabulous Women. I appreciate all your work and your recent pivot to things less muller. You're welcome. I am a Rhode Island native. Who's currently hosting a family from New York City? The current situation is that all out of state folks coming in to Rhode Island Must Register with the State's Department of Health and self quarantine for two weeks. Initially the Rhode Island Governor Targeted New Yorker specifically and then broadened to all out of all out of state. People be safe. Stay Sane. Keep your sense of humor. Thank you I will try appreciate that that was from Elizabeth from Daniel. You're also nice and just hearing you all first thing. Every morning makes my day better not a correction but a suggestion to keep things in perspective about cove nineteen nine eleven was touchstone for the PREJEAN Z. Folks at cost approximately three thousand lives initially with another twenty five thousand injured. It's grim but I've been calculating deaths in my head as how many nine eleven's it is ten. At the time I write this worldwide. This may help to explain to older more conservative. People that often reference nine eleven to justify horrendous policies. Thank you for that Daniel. We did that on the daily beans. We talked about how for the next couple of weeks. It's going to be a nine eleven every day and I wish we had a better government to cope with it And deal with it and mitigate it but we don't so we're relying on our governors here in California. Do not rely on the governor's in the fourteen states that opened up Palm. Sunday services or The Guy Peter Wells. I think his name is. He's been arrested already. Actually for violating. Stay at home. Orders Bussing in eight busloads of people to do an eight hour palm Sunday service. It's bananas and I'm sorry if you don't have a governor That believes in science But it's got to be tough Please reach out to us if you if you need to vent or talk. We're at Miller. She wrote on twitter And you can also just e mails. Hello at Muller she wrote or contact on more. She wrote Dot Com. Just let us know how it's going. We don't only take good news stories. We we would love to be an outlet for you to to get some stuff off your chest so those are corrections. If you have one for us had two molar she wrote. Dot COM CLICK CONTACT. Select corrections from the dropdown menu and build a compliment. Sandwich we'll get it right eventually and with those out of the way. Let's get to the news with just the facts. All right with everything. Going on a lot can get lost in the news. So here's some things that either flew under the radar or that trump actually deliberately tried to hide intelligence community. Inspector General Atkinson who famously transmitted the Ukraine whistleblower report to Congress which led to the impeachment of Donald Trump. Who was impeached forever? By the way was fired late Friday night. Under the under the darkness of night by the administration this administration as part of their efforts to purge the government of all non loyalists. We've been seeing this happen for awhile now. from Peter Baker at the New York Times quote. Mr Trump made no effort at a news briefing on Saturday to pretend that the dismissal was anything other than retribution. For Mr Atkinson's action under a law requiring such complaints be disclosed to lawmakers quote. I thought he did a terrible job. Absolutely terrible Mr. Trump said. He took a fake report and he brought it to Congress That's according to trump at one of the daily the Corona Virus Task Force briefings. By the way this is capping along angry denunciation of the impeachment he said Trump said. The man is a disgrace to. Id's he's a total disgrace but department of Justice. Inspector General Horowitz released a statement on Department of Justice Letterhead official statement on the firing of Atkinson and it reads quote. Inspector General Atkinson is known throughout the Inspector General Community for his integrity professionalism and commitment to the rule of law and independent oversight that includes his actions in handling the Ukraine whistleblower complaint which the then acting director of National Intelligence stated in Congressional testimony was done by the book and consistent with the law. Inspector General community will continue to conduct aggressive independent oversight of the agencies that we oversee this includes CIGNA I-IT's pandemic a pandemic Response Accountability Committee and its efforts on behalf of American taxpayers families businesses patients and healthcare providers to ensure that over two trillion dollars in emergency federal. Spending is being used consistently with the laws mandate. That is a bold statement from Horowitz. Who might not be around much longer. I tweeted February eighth after you know victim and his brother And Gordon Sunlen were removed. unceremoniously is February. Eighth I said Atkinson is next and here we are Took almost two months but he is gone now and now with the statement. I don't see Horowitz hanging on for much longer either and from the New York Times Mister. Trump's hunt for informers and turncoat's proceeds even while most Americans are focused on the corona virus outbreak that has killed thousands and shut down most of the country The president's determination to wipe out perceive treachery underscores his intense distrust of the government that he oversees at a time when he is relying on career public health and emergency management officials to help guide him through one of the most dangerous periods in modern American history. Really Excellent writing from New York Times and it is briefing on Saturday. Mr Trump likewise endorsed the firing of Captain Crozier of the Navy The Roosevelt who was removed from command of the aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt after sending his superiors a letter pleading for help for his virus-stricken crew quote. He shouldn't be take talking that way in a letter. Trump said I. It was terrible what he did and just today we learned from the New York Times in separate story. The captain Crozier has tested positive for Cova. Nineteen and trump has announced his intent to nominate a White House. Lawyer named Brian. Miller is the inspector general of the two point two trillion dollar corona virus rescue package if confirmed by Republican majority Senate Miller would become the special inspector general for pandemic recovery for the Treasury. Miller is special assistant to trump and senior counsel of of the Office of the White House counsel and he played a key role in the White House's response to the recent impeachment of the president who was impeached forever so he's installing people now we know. Rick Grenell Deny Atkinson has gone and Horowitz's probably soon to follow. Put some beans on that and of course. Now we've got Brian Miller as the Inspector General This is the oversight. Inspector General for the Pandemic Response Stimulus package or rescue package And of course the Democrats fought to put this provision in that there needs to be oversight and then this is who trump is nominating and in Russia Related News. The reporter for one American network was voted out of White House briefings Just this past week. I thought everybody might appreciate that. And the White House. Correspondents Association sent a letter. Saying dear colleagues as you are aware the W. H. C. A. Issued a policy last month restricting seating in the James S Brady press briefing room to comply with CDC guidelines on social distancing under this policy. We've asked reporters who do not have a seat. If you don't have a ticket do not attend the press briefings. We appreciate your cooperation as we do. Our part to ensure the safety of White House press corps and White House staff during this difficult time. We're writing to inform you that the Waca Board is voted this evening to remove a news outlet from the rotation for a seat in the briefing room. We did this because a report for this outlet twice attended press briefings in contravention of this policy. We do not take this action lightly. This is a matter of public safety. And that's the W H C A board and apparently the O. A. N. Lady Was asked to leave. She's there three days in a row and she didn't have a ticket and she was asked to leave. Now I'm here. She actually said I'm here at the in the special invitation of Stephanie. 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Us fucked up their response to nineteen so badly and essentially What happened you know if you could boil it? Down is the alarms were sounded and trump failed to heed the warnings and because of that there's an inadequate response on multiple levels throughout pretty much. Every step of this process and it's left us in this place now where we were a country that typically you would expect everybody to be looking to us to handle something like this with preparedness and efficiency and we didn't and because of that more people have died and it's Shame shameful it's shameful. There's no other way to put it really Washington Post does a great job in this article drawing upon anecdotes and stories and direct conversations with people that have direct knowledge of the matter and their sources are very intertwined in all of this so you can take them as credible But I'm just going to get get into detailing some of how this all got so fucked up so trigger trigger warning In terms of this not being a super positive note but it is good in terms of knowing what happened and I encourage everybody to read the article if that suits your fancy if that helps you sort of wrap your head around things kind of knowing exactly where things wrong. I know it helps me. It's frustrating beyond belief. Frustrating is that that word is insufficient to explain all of this but I did find that reading off this at least you know. I didn't find myself as much being left with the confounded miss of just wondering how we fuck this up. So bad So let's just start from from pretty much. The beginning January third was the first formal notice that trump god of the virus and then in the coming days experts were attempting to convey how serious it was but seventy days would pass before he started taking this seriously right and not only did it take him that long to begin conveying how serious this was to the American public but during that time period during the seventy days he was actively downplaying it as we will remember and as we will never forget the most consequential failure involved a breakdown in efforts to develop a diagnostic test that could be mass produced and distributed across the United States enabling agencies to map early outbreaks of the disease and imposed quarantine measures to contain them That's Washington Post's words at one point a FDA official apparently late into the CD saying bad the lapses in protocol that they had. Ah were so bad that the FDA said that they would have shut them down they would have shut the CDC down if they were a commercial rather than government entity that is how not on top of their shit. They were that is insane on top of that simultaneously. You have trump downplaying the severity of this. We all remember it. I don't again we will never ever forget it. The fact that he is now trying to rebrand himself as a sort of like you know person that takes this seriously as a complete joke There's a poll that showed that more. Republicans and Democrats were being influenced by trump's words Proof that comes in the form of a huge number of Republicans refusing to change travel plans refusing to follow social distancing guidelines Stocking up on supplies or otherwise taking the krona virus threat seriously. This is a quote from Gregory F. Trevor Tin. He's former chairman of the National Intelligence Council. He said this has been a real blow to the sense that America was competent Gregory stepped down from January twenty seventeen. He's now a teacher professor at USC he goes on to say that was part of our global roll traditional friends and allies look to us because they thought we could be competently called upon to work with them a crisis. This has been the opposite of that and quote so it's embarrassing. It's incredibly embarrassing. And not only is embarrassing but it's deadly and there were so many points where he could have turned it around in the leadership just didn't do it Czar he's HHS head. He apparently when he tried to convey the severity. The trump trump wasn't listening Lazar Czar told several associates that trump believed as our was alarmist. That's quote alarmist and as our had a really really hard time keeping trump's attention on the issue And this is when this was all transpiring you know. Impeachment was kind of at the tail-end and there are just so many reports of him being unable to think talk to anything other than just ranting incessantly about impeachment so just completely choosing to not focus on the imminent threat of what he is you know. Now claiming equates to wartime and he's calling himself a wartime president like okay cool so you saw war coming people told you a war was coming and you did nothing about it. And that's exactly what's being confirmed by so many different accounts throughout this article He as are his approach. He instructed subordinates to work really quickly to establish a nationwide surveillance system to track the spread of the current virus This is basically just a version of what the CDC does every year to monitor. New Strains of the ordinary flew on steroids. But the issue is that doing so would just require so many so many resources that. Us officials couldn't get their shit together to do for example a diagnostic test that could actually accurately identify. Who's infected and that was such a huge flop. It was. It was so poorly executed and poorly done. If you'll remember. They were doing stuff. Where like they they were. You know the. Cdc is supposed to be developing the test and then there would be test results but they weren't trustworthy enough so they had to send the actual test results into the CDC for like a second confirmation basically just so incredibly inefficient The other thing that they were up against as our czars team also had a massive issue with Producing them in a mass scale the CDC is just like not equipped to do that. That's not what they do so they couldn't they can do it well. And then also China was refusing to share the viral samples that they had collected. And we're using to develop their own tests so that's another obstacle that they were up against and while China was refusing to share that information trump was continuously praising president the president of China Right. This is just like. He always manages to praise people at the worst times. It's it's like he tries to find when we would need some sort of like the solid. His misplaced solidarity just baffles me. I don't understand it and I really don't understand it in the context of his followers. That are so nationalistic. The fact that he like sides with leaders of other nations that are actively doing something to undermine our country. It's like that's when he'll choose to support the person publicly. It's so it makes no fucking sense. And he was doing this. Us doing this with the president. Gee and Despite the growing evidence that Beijing was concealing their numbers of their outbreak and you know putting roadblocks on cooperation on so many fronts. It took forever to finally get a viral a sample that from them so then we moved to January. Twenty second Looking at when trump receivers first question about virus within an interview and CNBC and he and he was asked whether he was worried about a potential pandemic trump said no not at all and we have at totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. It's going to be just fine so January twenty second. That's weeks after. He was initially made aware of this problem and the severity of the problem in January that that early January. That's like the official date that he got an official warning. There was still talks. That were happening before that too. So he at. This point has known coming up on a month right. And he's still saying that they have a totally under control but instead of the US working to secure things know like ventilators like p. p. e. like testing like things that are actually going to tackle the virus once it hits the US instead of focusing on that. Us officials were apparently more to Donovan. Apparently they were absolutely verifiably more concern in preoccupied logistical problems including how to evacuate Americans from China but by that point three hundred thousand people had come into the United States from China over the previous months so it was made very clear that the State Department had their agenda. That just perfectly fits into trump's very nationalistic. Put the borders up. Don't let anybody come inside. Sort of points on his agenda and they're driving home. They're driving home that part when it's like it's already spread it's already here. We need a plan and execute a plan that we can do immediately. That's GonNa start addressing the fact that virus is going to start killing Americans and they were not focusing on that they were flopping every step of the way late January early February leaders at. Hhs sent two letters to the White House Office of Management and Budget asking to use its transfer authority to shift one hundred thirty six million dollars of department funds into pools that could be tapped for combating. The Corona virus are in his. Aides also began raising the need for a multi-billion dollar supplemental budget. Requests sent a congress but at this time. Those budget hawks in the White House rights. They argued that appropriating. Too much money at once. When they were only a few use cases would be viewed as alarmist so when it was the time to allocate resources in a way. That would actually be effective. They knowingly did not do that. They made the choice to not do that. Because it would be viewed as alarmist which would have been an appropriate view by the way the alarms should be sounded. They were already sounded. They had been being sounded. It was time to be alarmed. It had been time and they wouldn't do this. They didn't want to come off as alarmist. It's one of those things that I don't think the country will ever forgive trump for But it's to the point where it doesn't even. It doesn't even matter. You know the damage that's been done so far passes anything that relates to his reputation. Who gives a fuck? The real existential threat of this at this point is that people are dying because of been when they did this. They missed a narrow window to stockpile ventilators masks and other PE- before the administration was bidding against many other desperate nations and state officials fed up with federal failures begins scouring for supplies themselves. So this is exactly the situation. That New York state finds himself in for example the fact that they have to bid against other states for this equipment and then FEMA is coming in and bidding as if they're their own state entity in the individual states are bidding against Fema. When really FEMA should have just come in and done their own. Bid Gotten all the all the gear that was required under one like massive you know procurement and then divvied up to everybody else instead there and the same pool of buyers as the states are means. No it makes no fucking sense. And that's trump's fault one hundred. That is trump's fault. No thing Type Health Top. Health officials had erroneously Concluded that the outbreak would probably be limited in scale inside the United States Apparently that's based off of that having been the case with other infections and they were going off of models you know of the past that just were not relevant to attack happening now and they based off of those old models to they thought the CDC could be trusted on its own to develop corona virus diagnostic tests but like I said previously the CDC is not meant or built to mass produce. Those tests it's During during this time though as our seemed really committed to his plan and key in pursued the plan that he was going to secure test from the CDC and then build a national corona virus surveillance system by relying on an existing network of labs used to track ordinary flu. So that's really what czar was trying to. Do He's trying to tap into the CDC's resources that they use for ordinary flu and just even though it was going to be rocky you know. Just stick stick to this idea. Let's let's try to just adhere to this roadmap that already sort of exists With the CDC and you know try to give them the resources that they need. That's the sense I'm getting from this at least tried to give him this. The resources that they need and hope that they can just scale this up to the level that it needs to be up but they couldn't and effort collapsed when the CDC failed it's basic assignment to create a working test in a task force rejected as ours plan after that INEFFECTIVE TESTING. You know that requires you to send the results into the CDC eventually the FDA gave private labs the go ahead to start developing their tests. And that kind of brings us to where we're at right now. I was sort of confused about how that transition happened. You know I was like I thought the CDC was supposed to be doing this. And then you start seeing random random companies popping up. I forget every well I think. Any one of the companies that could just be random capitalist company floating around in my brain. But I think that's the name of the company that does a bunch of different home testing. I saw that they're like coming up with one another. Yeah so there's all these private ones coming out and trying to do it and I have done it successfully And this is what I discovered only Let's a lot of the the major problems. They're they're so so many other issues in things that were just mismanaged along every step of the way so not only were they not preparing not only were they not heeding the warnings at this coming not only were they refusing to convey the fact that it was coming to the American people. They were just. I mean the list goes on. The list goes on and on forever. It's like the worst response on the federal level. It's fucking embarrassing. And they failed everybody. They failed like hardcore failed. Everybody and now. The states are trying to do this more or less on their own. I know CUOMO's you know he throws bones to trump and and I hope and would like to believe that trump is actually doing things that are that are helpful right now. I can like I said this one of our other episodes if if Cuomo saying that trump is helpful. I'm just GonNa take that as a win. But ultimately they fucked up trump in an fucked up so hard core and it's the most predictable fuck up. You have a person that has a disdain. A complete disdain for facts institutions long standing institutions and leadership. He hates all of those things. He's not a leader. He's not a truth teller. He's a fucking worse. And this just sucks. I'm like morning. I'm morning so much the fact that this would have been so different if we had a competent leader. It's like it's not. It's completely past politics. I don't I don't care that. He's a fucking Republican when he's not even Republicans complete disgusting Psychopath Chameleon but if we had someone in there that had any sort of remote amount of respect for facts in the lives he doesn't he does not care that people are dying he literally does not care you see it when he talks about himself. He's fucking in in his own press conferences. He's making jokes about like models and like hooking up with models and shit he's inserting narcissistic comments like sex jokes into his fucking briefings about this to the American people. He is the fucking worst. He is so bad there's no if he gets reelected in two thousand twenty. I have no I. I mean the fact that he got elected in two thousand sixteen I felt like I I at least could justify that in my head sort of just because of like you know misinformation campaigns and just the rise of you know racism in white nationalism and all of these like at least that sort of make sense like stuff stuff adds up kind of like. There's a lot of America that does suck and there's a lot of forces that are coming in and trying to manipulate those people and capitalize off of them to get someone that extra sucks into the presidency and that's what happened in two thousand sixteen but in two thousand twenty if this has happened and people are. People are dying. You can't you cannot dispute. The facts in the numbers are higher than they are even being reported right now obviously right. We know that. That's like only logical that they're not counting everybody. That's actually testing positive or actually dying because of in nineteen we just saw. People Are Dying. Not Getting Markdown as cove in nineteen deaths even though they probably are when you have all those facts in it is so an arguable that they did a Shitty job and that people so many people so many more people died because of this because of them. This is a completely apolitical thing. The fact that there's a possibility he's GonNa get re-elected in twenty twenty. Just I truly cannot wrap my head around that. I really hope that doesn't happen. But we look to leadership in the states and in Congress now Ragged only hope that it's going to get better as goes on so Sorry those kind of ran. T- how does like an like? How does rush Limbaugh Day? This just sit in front of this microphone in just a second rant. It's exhausting. It's truly exhausting. And I've been staring at the same specs on the wall this entire time and it feels lonely and sad. I hope y'all are doing okay Thank you for for listening to to my kitchen. Hot Out and I will see you all next week Quick Plug for for myself. Make sure to check out the new. Podcast I disagree. It's on I tunes spotify everywhere. You listen We talk about you know I have. I have a friend that I disagree with. And we talk about politics and other things on there and it's a little bit more lighthearted if you're looking for a nice decompression listen other than that My final thoughts. Yeah that that's that's about it. Thanks thanks everybody please please be. Well be safe. Stay home all right. Have a good day bye. Thank you Jordan. For sending in that update I would like to talk about the Russia. Investigation ferment listener of molar. She wrote you know we sort of maybe focused a little bit on what was going on with the trump and Russia. I of as we know one of the Republican rallying cries of disinformation regarding the Russell. Russia investigation in two thousand sixteen is that the Obama Administration wiretapped the trump campaign by using the phony steele dossier to obtain a fiso warrant on Carter page and that claim while totally untrue by the way was bolstered by the inspector general finding that there were seventeen errors in the process to obtain the warrants on Carter page which of course trump and his sycophants jumped on as proof that the deep state Israel and Russia is hoax as we know the Russia investigation was not based on the steele dossier and it was based on Alexander Downer from Australia contacting us. And saying hey your your boy. Popadopoulos is a telling everybody including our Guy Alexander Downer that he has dirt on Hillary inform Russian emails and his working with a guy named Mifsud. And so that whole steele dossier does not what started the investigation and the whole steele dossier by the way none of which has been disproven And we also know that the page the Carter page FIFA was not based entirely on the dossier was one tiny part of an eight hundred page application and Carter page his padres. Floppy hat night hat has long since been fired from the trump campaign. When trump's department of justice approved the FIS applications were all signed? The renewal was signed by Rod. Rosenstein not to mention page wasn't charged with anything Obtained under the FIFA. That was used. None of the information was used well. The Same Inspector General that issued the report on the seventeen errors in the Carter page application process. That is the Department of Justice. Inspector General Horowitz who we just talked about a little bit earlier who was defending the Intelligence Community Inspector General Atkinson for being fired in whatever wins round now referring to as the next Friday night massacre. Just one in a series of many Horowitz issued a management advisory memo to Chris. Wray that's the director of the FBI. Subject Line reading quote audit of the FBI's execution of its woods procedures for applications filed with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court relating to US persons unquote. In which this memo Horowitz told Ray it appeared that the Federal Bureau of Investigation had not been following a policy that requires law enforcement to compile extensive documentation for surveillance applications. Those are known as the woods procedures and this is not just for page but it seems like it's just about anyone who gets a FIFA TAP put on 'em Horowitz. Did a review of twenty nine sample cases and found that woods files were absent for four of the applications and an average of twenty errors per application for the rest so the seventeen errors found with the page vices actually better than average for trump's. Fbi in the surveillance court. Order our surveillance court's order on Friday. It told the F. B. I. To turn over the target names docket numbers of each of the twenty nine applications. The court also ordered the FBI to assess whether the errors were significant and quote whether any such material misstatements emissions render invalid in whole or in part authorizations granted by the court that target that The court for the court that targeted the review docket or other dockets. Basically saying you need to look at these tells if Any of these warrants. Were actually unfounded now. Doj I G Horowitz determined that the Carter page vise a warrant even despite the seventeen errors was founded. And it wasn't done with any bias Which Kinda poke holes in the deep state argument along with all the other facts in the case so now the surveillance court is ordering the FBI to hand over and assess and do all this stuff. So that's really really interesting. Considering the outcry from the right about the terrible feis accord If we've I've taken issue with the Fisk for a while and this shows that on average twenty errors in all twenty nine sample cases four were completely missing the woods files. So there you have it and Just keep you know not that it matters because the Carter page Had nothing to do with the opening of the Russia investigation or any of the prosecution that followed all of the bunch of people who went to prison. Had nothing to do with Rod Rosenstein by the way approving The renewals for this wiretap on Carter page despite his awesome floppy hats so that is my hot note. Thank you again to Jordan for sending years. We'll be right back with a discussion with thirty year. Federal former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner about the big news of the week. You don't WanNa miss it? Stick around everybody. It's aging one thing. I've found doing research for molar. She wrote is the deeper. You dig the more layers you uncover. That's part of what I love about the puzzle game best fiends but without all the correct corruption incompetence entries and although there are slimy snails slugs actually best fans as a as a awesome distraction. It's so soothing and the colors are beautiful and the design is incredible and when I need a break from the insane politics news today and Eddie Day I love to play either. I just play best fans. It's and the more you play the more fun and exciting. It gets because you get to level up your characters reach each new level. It's like you're uncovering a new layer of the story and once you get to be part of it though. So it's it's really awesome. 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And it's nice to see everybody pulling together and doing the right thing. Despite whatever's coming out of those White House Task Force press briefings of what I wanted to talk to you about today. This is big news. And I'm glad you came on muller she wrote for this because this is sort of one of the things we've been waiting for for a while a while back. Judge Reggie Walton. I believe he's a Bush appointee and he was very concerned about the characterizations mischaracterization of of William Bars Fi. You know memo that he released about the findings of the Muller Report and he was also concerned. He expressed concern in his court about under. You know in a foia lawsuit for the unredacted report about the appropriateness of the reactions and may be having to review them himself to see if they're appropriate and as a response to that. He demanded he ordered. I should say that the Department of Justice handover the full unredacted report to him and they and they gave. He gave the Department of Justice until March thirtieth to do so and wo on March thirtieth. They did. They handed it over to him. And so this is very very big news Tell us what you think you. What what are your top. Your top line thoughts on this are and how this could impact the entire Muller investigation. Yes so I I agree with you. It's very good news because now somebody that frankly I personally trust one million percent judge Reggie Walton. And I'll tell you why I trust him in a minute. He now has his hands on the unredacted. Muller reports and you know I have the Mullahs report in front of me. Have MOTHER REPORT WILL TRAVEL? And you know it is so heavily redacted that there is so much information in there that I think The public deserves to know and frankly will inform our opinion about who committed what crimes because there were a whole rack of crimes being committed by trump and company That made made their way into the Muller report. We just don't know about it all yet. Now when you say that Reggie Walton first of all the meat limit Talk about him from it. You know he was not only a Bush appointee but when we go back through the history of Judge Reggie Walton. He started out as a federal prosecutor in my former office. The US Attorney's Office for the district of many years ago then in nineteen eighty one. He was appointed by Ronald Reagan to be Superior Court and Superior Court judge in Washington. Dc In ninety one. He was reappointed as a judge in that same court by George H W Bush in two thousand one. He was appointed by George W Bush to be a federal court judge in Washington. Dc and then a few years later chief justice Roberts designated him as one of the Pfizer court judges. I mean the man I will tell. You is a lion of a federal criminal justice circles. I used to handle cases before him when he was trying murder cases and superior court as a judge in the nineties and I mean the man is just plain old truth justice and the American way. He's going to do the right thing by the American people. When he takes takes his time he goes through the unredacted Muller Report and he decides what should be released. Pursuant to this foil Litigation Freedom of Information Act Litigation brought by a couple of organizations one named epic which stands for the Electron Ick Privacy Information Center and then buzzfeed also joined it. And you know when you look at the the soil law laws I think enacted back in nineteen sixty six. It really is all about government transparency. I mean we're supposed to see what's going on. Inside of the Federal Government that quite frankly we as taxpayers fund and the whole purpose of the foia laws laws is to basically inform the electorate So that they can kind of keep an eye on on our on our government on our democracy so you know we are hopefully about to see a whole lot of what bill bar tried to redact out of the report. Yeah and that's specifically why I wanted to talk to you about this. I had a feeling you had some experience with With this particular judge and I we've been you know we've been following this case very closely On on the Miller. She wrote podcast for for a while. Now wondering where this was going to go and it's just been very interesting to hear what he has to say from the bench about the The mischaracterization put forth by Bill Bar And I think importantly because you're right a lot of this is redacted and he now has it of course. He's postponed his review of it until April twentieth because of Corona virus considerations. I personally would probably just take it home with me. Read it by the fire. It was kind of like when Oh Judge Jackson got her hands on the unredacted portions of the Roger Stone. Muller Report Parts and I'm like Oh she knows everything now but I- What's interesting to me and what I what strikes me first on this is if you remember Appendix d there were fourteen cases or fourteen cases handed off to to other agencies to were public that we knew about twelve or redacted. Judge Walton knows what cases now were handed off. And we'll be able to scrutinize the disposition of those cases based on what he knows as far as where they are in the courts or if they've been shuttered or if they've been what a whatever's going on with them he knows what those cases are so. I think that that's going to be very interesting to see what he feels. If anything the public should know about those yeah and and I remember sixty talked about fourteen cases and investigations and I think when when we teased it out like you said there were a couple of cases that were already brought so we kind of knew what those cases war but that left a dozen investigations that had been referred out by Bob Muller to other. Us Attorney's offices the southern district of your eastern district. Virginia the DC. Us Attorney's office to named three. That likely received some of those investigations. And I have to leave those investigations. You know have been worked over the course of the past year now could they have been down by Bill Barr. I suppose they could have been you know if you tried to shut them down in a way that those local. Us Attorney's offices disagreed with or had a had a concern about. I suspect some of that might have bubbled up and we might have heard about some of it so I am hopeful that you know this this sort of long quiet period with respect to the Mullahs report is not assigned that all of those cases are dead but a sign that they're all being actively worked and they will be brought. When the time is right. I'll tell you if I'm a prosecutor. I am probably not gonNA drop charges when I mean drop. I am not going to ask. Grand Juries to vote indictments on people who I believe. President trump will pardon. I will wait until the minute after he leaves office in January. Twenty twenty one assuming they will be defeated and I can't imagine he won't be defeated that as a prosecutor is when I'm GonNa drop charges on when I say dropped. I'm going to indict cases on the Don Juniors of the world and anybody else that Donald Trump might otherwise want to part because the minute he leaves the Oval Office. He can't pardon people anymore So you're saying we could see all the indictments that we thought we were going to see. We could see those. After trump leaves office why go through the hollow hollow exercise of having those indictments brought at a time? That trump can just issue pardons to everybody. Yeah and another thing too. I think that it would be interesting to know. And I don't know if this is something that this judge would consider Important enough for the public to have a right to know. But these these investigations that were handed off. It seems like we In the beginning we all thought Rod Rosenstein was this guy who was standing up for Muller and preventing him from you know being curtailed and it Cetera et Cetera. Things sort of went on after a while. We found out you know. He said he told trump he would land the plane. And we all know that he he had limited the scope of a of a lot of wh- Muller was doing although Miller came out and said was never told not to investigate something. But I don't know whether investigations wh you know what he means by investigation or investigate something means to hand it off to somebody else so we might get a glimpse into why these cases were investigations were handed off to other. Us Attorney's office other agencies because of the limited scope of the Miller report for for example the financial stuff like we know that the The CO and financial Stuff trump trump organization stuff was handed off and then that went dark And then you know Sivan's the Manhattan district attorney picked it up after a judge forced the Department of Justice to close their case right. So how many times did this happen? And why and here's the problem. We're all very excited now. Because we know that east one honest broker of the truth Judge Reggie Walton has the unredacted mother report in his hands. However we have to keep in mind that Judge Walton will still be making some decisions about what can and what should not be disclosed at this moment in time there are eight or nine exceptions to the Foia Law that allows judges And allows the government to to not disclose Matters within the executive branch National Security Trade Secrets Personal Medical Information. Law enforcement exception mapping functions and a few others and. Here's the problem. If as we just discussed a number of these cases that had been referred out courtesy of Appendix D two other. Us Attorney's offices for continued investigation to be brought as charges. When the time is right well then judge Walton may very well say the time is not yet right for me to disclose information about those investigations. That are still pending. So it's not like it's an all or nothing proposition. Judge Jackson will say it's time to give all over to the public so I think we may still experience some incremental frustration when baby we think. Reggie Jackson doesn't give us a Reggie Jackson Reggie Walton. Doesn't give us everything we would like to see right now if he holds back certain materials. I trust that he's doing it for the right reasons. Well exactly as you said like if you said if you were a prosecutor you'd be waiting until January twenty first twenty twenty one to to try to bring these charges and if these are open an ongoing investigations that could be compromised if they were made public He's not GonNa make those he's not GonNa make them public. They would that. Would that would compromise any ongoing investigation. that that is happening in any of these. Us Attorney's offices Etc Right. I mean that's would be one major reason not to not to put anything out absolutely. I agree but we also know. Is that Reggie Walton will not pull his punches because as we saw that twenty-something page order that I have sitting on my lap right now when he said things like and I quote Bill Bar dubiously handled the release of the mother report. Bill Bar attempts to spin the findings and conclusions of the mother report bill bars characterization of the mother report has been directly contradicted by the Mullahs Report. And then he goes on to say. Bill bar lacks candor. I mean this is not Harvey Weinstein. He's talking about or or Bernie Madoff. This is the Attorney General of the United States that you know judge Reggie Walton a lion of the DC criminal. Justice circles is calling bill bar out for what he is. I mean that is. Et is pretty darned dramatic. Yeah I think it's lost on some people. How amazing that is kind of like how it was lost on some people. When when Muller went to paper after Bar came out did characterization muller put it on paper that he was mischaracterizing his thing and wrote a letter and a bunch of people. Oh you wrote a letter big deal. It is an extremely big fucking deal for. Muller to go to paper like that and so a huge deal for somebody like Bob who was my homicide chief. He taught me happy a federal homicide prosecutor. And you know there were two things that I think. We're probably wrestling inside of Bob. Muller one was you do not criticize your boss. The Attorney General of the United States and unfortunately because he was operating under the special counsel statute and not the old independent counsel Statute Bill. Bar remained his boss. That's something we're going to have to revisit moving forward moving back to the independent Counsel Statute. Because now we've learned the damage can be done by the combination of corrupt. President and the corrupt attorney. General but You know I'm sure Bob Muller was like on the one hand I am a soldier. I do not criticize my superior on the other hand Bob. Muller as a soldier and as soldiers we are taught that you must disobey unlawful orders and Went Bob Muller Attorney General lying about his findings and conclusions. Muller's findings and conclusions. I think that instinct kicked in. And that's why as you say. He went to paper and e criticized bill bar for. Let's call it what it is lying about the findings and conclusions of his report. Yeah and that was a big I couldn't impart upon people. What a big deal that was at the time and and and I don't even fully probably understand. What a big deal that is. Because I haven't worked with Bob. Muller like you have but I think I really do. Think that. This unredacted Mullah Report In the hands of this judge is a wonderful thing for democracy and justice. And it's it's a lot. It's a lot bigger deal than the than the Supreme Court case right now where we're trying to get the the muller grand jury materials to the House because we'll never see any of that you know maybe not we didn't we didn't see the grand jury materials until two years ago from Watergate. So this I think is our best. The these journalists with their freedom of Information Act request and these judges who are beholden to justice. I think our best and last hope for for some truth in for surgery for her first transparency. Yeah I agree and the good news is whatever was most important in those grand jury transcripts which I agree we're never likely to see will be included in the mother report at least a summary of it so hopefully we'll be getting the good stuff. Yeah well that's probably what's behind all those redaction buyers you know all right well. Glenn thank you very much. Nbc MSNBC Legal Analyst Thirty Year veteran of federal prosecutor. We'VE WORKED WITH BOB. Muller you've worked with Judge Reggie Walton. I really appreciate you coming on shedding some light on some of the things that we can expect from this. I appreciate it with you. Thanks all right everybody. That is our show that is more she wrote for Sunday What is it April Fifth Poems Sunday? I've kind of remember what that is being a Catholic. It's been awhile it's been awhile. Stay home there's no need to go to church in these times Or for me I think anytime but especially right now Thank you everyone for contributing to the show. Thanks Glenn Kirshner for coming on and talking to me about the MON redacted Muller Report. I'm so excited if I were judge Walton. I'd be at home right now. Just I duNno smokeless Jay. Read the report You probably can't though as a federal judge is probably the best anyway. it's thank you to Jordan For for sending in your hot note and thanks to Mandy reader for sending in the corrections corralling all the corrections and sending them today again. 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Bill Barr Was Held in Contempt of Congress Wednesday

The Point with Chris Cillizza

03:56 min | 1 year ago

Bill Barr Was Held in Contempt of Congress Wednesday

"It ways. Carpool is not a bus. It's not a taxi, and it's not a slug line ways. Carpool is an app that lets neighbors co workers and commuters save time and ride together to work and home drivers may get express lane access and cashback for gas riders getting affordable commute and help the planet and carpoolers get to know their neighbors and co workers a little better. Download the app and see how easy it is to catch a ride. Forgive ride to work for home ride together with ways carpool tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of Ford. I wear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Welcome to the point for Wednesday may be eighth. I'm Chris cillizza cutting through the political spin to bring you the news you need to know on Wednesday, the House Judiciary committee after a long debate voted to hold attorney general Bill bar in contempt of congress for his refusal to turn over the full unredacted Muller report that is the full report with nothing taken out of it from special counsel, Robert Muller as relates to Russia's interference in two thousand sixteen election and the possibility of the President Trump committed obstruction of Justice in that probe. Now, you think to yourself, oh, they deal. Contempt of congress. Not really, yes, I suppose it's possible under the law that being in contempt of congress could mean that the house or Senate sergeant at arms and employees of the chamber Kudo rest Bill bar, but that ain't happening, and yes, it's possible. The house could appeal to the executive branch k the White House to file criminal proceedings against bar for being in contempt. But also not happening because Donald Trump likes what Bill bar is doing. He doesn't think the fo unredacted report should come out. He likes Bill bar not showing up last week at the House Judiciary committee hearing because they couldn't settle on terms of questions. So what does this all mean? It's a lot of political theater, but it does serve to some extent a legal purpose, which is once the judiciary committee began its hearing, the White House invoking set could have privileged over the entire Muller report, which just means that it is more likely that congressional. That's will file suit to get the entire report on redacted and the White House. We'll fight it. So we are going to have a legal fight. This just speeds that legal fight up. So it was not without cause. And not without I suppose a goal and an accomplished goal. But man, oh man watching an hour's long debate between members of congress about something contempt of the attorney general that really has zero teeth was a pretty good metaphor for how Washington works and doesn't work these days. That's an as you need to know for this may the eighth for much more. Check out my daily Email newsletter which you can subscribe to by going to CNN dot com slash the point. You can also subscribe to this podcast on Stitcher. Spotify apple podcasts, or wherever you gave your podcast, and you can call it up on your Amazon echo or you. Go home device. He's core pool is not a bus. It's not a taxi, and it's not a slug line ways. Corporal is an the let's neighbors co workers and commuters save time and ride together to work and home drivers may get express lane access and cashback for gas riders getting affordable commute and help the planet and carpoolers get to know their neighbors and co workers a little better. Download the app and see how easy it is to catch a ride forgive ride to work or home ride together with ways carpool.

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May 2, 2019

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

03:57 min | 1 year ago

May 2, 2019

"Good morning. Welcome to your political. Playbook audio briefing for Thursday may second. I'm Blake count shell filling in for Anna. Palmer and Jake Sherman. Stay tuned after the show for a message from the American beverage association Trump administration. Sources tell us that Tiger Woods is coming to the White House next Monday. To celebrate his recent win at the masters tournament. President Trump is a huge fan of tiger and golf should be interesting. Fresh off his dramatic hearing in the Senate yesterday attorney general Bill bar was due to appear before the House Judiciary committee today. But the Justice department said last night that he isn't coming. Jay also said bar won't comply with the Democrats. Subpoena demanding release the full unredacted Muller report by today's deadline. So what will House Judiciary chair Jerry Nadler do? Now, we already know he'll hold a mock hearing this morning with an empty chair, then what will ET up a committee vote to site bar for contempt of the first subpoena and later really slap bar. With another subpoena and make him testify. Hillary Clinton was on Rachel maddow's show last night. And she had this to say about bar. I think the Democrats on the committee did a good job in exposing that he is the president's defense lawyer. He is not the attorney general of the United States in the way that he has conducted himself turning now to twenty twenty January Litmanen I spoke with several people who talk frequently with President Trump to get a feel for how he's thinking about the democratic field these days someone who knows the president told us this with Trump everything is personal. So a lot of the day is spent trying to assess the weaknesses of the other candidates. A senior administration officials said the president is not necessarily watching anyone candidate even though he has been tweeting constantly about Joe Biden. Trump isn't particularly worried about Elizabeth Warren or better aerobic. He thinks that it was a joke. The person who knows Trump told us our sources say there are two camps around the president one camp worries about a charismatic candidate like comma, Harris. Another camp is more worried about a centrist type like Joe Biden. But one thing everyone told us is that the president himself doesn't seem to fear any particular candidate. He's more worried about the economy tanking what the fed will do interest rates, but maybe he should be more concerned about the Democrats as one of our sources put it Trump has very bad sense of danger. Trump's advisors are split on whether he should keep bashing Joe Biden or leave him alone. My colleagues Gabby or and Markelle poodle report one school of thought inside Trump's orbit holes than early front runner. Like Biden must be attacked early and often another argues that engaging Biden gives the democrat exactly what he wants a twenty candidate primary field the image that he is already. Waging a head to head battle with rattled incumbent. Nancy Scola reports that Facebook and the Federal Trade Commission are working on a possible settlement that would require the company the place privacy minded executives at Facebook's highest levels. The steps would include appointing a federally approved privacy official at Facebook. And creating a privacy oversight committee that might include Facebook board members. Finally, here's what Trump has on tap for Thursday. The president has to events on his public schedule at eleven eastern time. He in the first lady will be in the rose garden for the national day of prayer service. Then at two thirty hill huddle with Republican senators in the Roosevelt room of the White House. That's it for today. Thanks for listening. And if you haven't already subscribed the playbook at politico dot com slash playbook, America's beverage companies are working together to support families efforts to reduce sugar in their diet together. Coke Dr Pepper, and Pepsi are providing more great tasting options with less sugar or no sugar at all. Smaller portion sizes clear calorie labels, and reminders to think. Balance more choices smaller portions less sugar. Learn more about how we're working together at balance US dot org. That's balance US dot org.

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Week In The News: Contempt Vote, China Tariffs, North Korea Missiles, Trump Taxes

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

47:27 min | 1 year ago

Week In The News: Contempt Vote, China Tariffs, North Korea Missiles, Trump Taxes

"This message comes from on point sponsor, indeed if you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions than zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash NPR podcast. From NPR and WVU are Boston. I'm David Folkenflik. And this is on point picture, a stone wall encircling the White House this week for the White House is now stone plan congress another historic moment. The House Judiciary committee urged the full house to hold attorney general William bar in contempt of congress for not turning over the complete unredacted Muller report democratic Representative Jerry Nadler of New York leads that committee. This was a very grave and momentus step that we were forced to take today to move contempt citation against attorney general of the United States. We did not relish doing this. But we have no choice. President Trump is escalating a trade war with the world's second largest economy. He spoke from the Roosevelt room yesterday. We're not going to be taken advantage of anymore. We're not gonna pay China five hundred billion dollars a year. So we put very heavy tariffs on China as a Friday and a bombshell report splashed revelations about then city. Trump's huge financial losses at the height of his real estate career on the front page of the New York Times, Steve Doocy and Ainsley Earhardt post of the president's preferred cable morning show, FOX and friends offered a sympathetic take. It is an interesting look though at how New York City real estate developers work in the eighties and the nineties. Wow. It's pretty impressive all the things that he's done in his life on what most of us could ever and that and that may be beyond what most of us would ever say. Join us this hour. How grave is this confrontation between these two branches of government who do you think has the better case? Join us anytime at on point radio dot org around the Twitter and Facebook and on point radio with us from Washington DC, Sheryl gay Stolberg, congressional correspondent for the New York Times shall gay Stolberg welcomed on point. Hi, and thank you for having me. My pleasure from NPR studio booth at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington DC issue Rasco joins us. She's the White House reporter for NPR. I you should ask. A welcome back on point. Thanks for having me again and from Hanover, New Hampshire on point news analyst, Jack Beatty is online. Hello, jack. Hello, david. Are you should and shirl-? So let's start with what we started with at the top of the hour on Wednesday. Democrats on the House Judiciary committee voted to recommend a contempt citation against the attorney general the United States that's William bar. Amplifying constitutional confrontation between congress and the White House over there seeking the unredacted Muller report, New York Democrat and chairman of the committee, Jerry Nadler spoke to reporters after that vote. There can be no higher stakes then this attempt to. To arrogate all power to the executive branch away from the from congress and more important away. From the American people we've talked for a long time about approaching a constitutional crisis. We are now in it showcase stole Burke, you cover congress, just first procedural thing. The committee has voted to recommend a consent contempt citation that means it's ultimately going to go to the floor of the house, I presume what's the prospects for that in this democratic controlled house of representatives. So that's exactly right. It will go to the floor of the house. But just when we don't know speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters the other day yesterday that she has not yet scheduled a vote and the thinking is that probably what's going to happen as Democrats are going to bundle together, other contempt citations. This will not be the first the bar contempt. So they'll probably bundle them together and bring them to the floor at some future date. I think they don't want to be bringing. One contempt citation to the floor after another after another because after all Democrats do want to keep the focus on their legislative agenda. Asia rosca. What's the what's the reaction up at the White House to this? Well, the White House is, you know, saying this is this is ridiculous. This is absurd. And basically, what White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders said is that that Nadler knows that bar could not release all of this information. Their argument is that there's confidential information there's grand jury testimony, and that information just cannot be released publicly in that it would be illegal for them to do. So so they are kind of saying that this is political gamesmanship. So she'll let me let me let me play for you, clippers Sanderson ask you about it. Okay. White the White House press secretary, Sarah Sanders, push back against Nadler, and the jury judiciary committee's demands. And here's what she said when she spoke to reporters on Wednesday, take a minute to let this sink in chairman Nadler is asking the attorney general the United States to break the law. And commit a crime by releasing information that he knows he has no legal authority to have. Is that right? I mean is there are there specific laws that you can point to that Nadler's affectively asking the attorney general to break, and is it right that the congress has no legal authority to demand. This will certainly congress and Nadler, the Democrats are arguing that that is not the case there I in the past. There have been cases where when you had a special counsel report where the congress was given all of the evidence of the public report is now out of their argued there are disagreements about kind of the grand jury testimony. But apparently, you can go to the courts and ask for some of that to be released. And there's also a difference between releasing something to the public versus releasing it to congress asking for a members of congress to see this report, not necessarily to make confidential information just open to the general public. And so they're they argue that they do have a right to see this information. And the White House is saying no, this is illegal show gay Stolberg. You've. Covered congress for a while. We heard that the chairman Nadler called this a constitutional crisis. Is this a confrontation or has this really risen to a level of crisis yet? Well, I hate to contradict chairman Nadler. But I would think it is really at the level of confrontation when it becomes a crisis. I think is when these matters go to the courts, and let's say the Trump administration refuses a court order, then you really have a constitutional crisis right now, we have Democrats subpoenaing all these documents demanding all these witnesses and Trump as you said in your introduction, stole stonewalling. He says he's not going to comply with any of these subpoenas. Democrats say they have a constitutional right to assert their right as a Coequal branch of government. But everybody knows that this is going to land up in the courts. And in fact, there's already a suit working its way through the courts with oral arguments scheduled for next week. The president has sued Representative Elijah Cummings and the house oversight committee because he wants to block. Their subpoena for documents his financial records. So we're going to see that clash I think moving pretty quickly through the courts, possibly and probably followed, by other cases. And then I think we'll have a full blown crisis. If there's a refusal to comply alleged Cummings, of course, being the Baltimore democrat who heads the house oversight committee that that is right, Jack Beatty, let's talk a little bit. And we will talk in a few minutes about some of the subsequent other issues that are raising analogous questions about the executive branch and the White House is ability to say no to congress. But let's talk a little bit about executive privilege. It's been cited here for as I understand it the entire unredacted Muller report. Although we've received most of the mole report. And there's some question about the degree to which the president waved executive privilege, and allowing some of his aides to talk to Muller's team. What what is? At stake here with executive privilege. What's being claimed in how resilient is that Clinton has that claimed proven to be over the years. Well, according to some of the legal experts wanna seen on television. It is a shaky pedestal on which to you know, rear up defense because it it only goes back. Well, it's it's most controversial involved in the Nixon tapes case, which the supreme court unanimously ruled could not be protected by executive privilege and indeed on the grounds that yes, the president needs to have a candor from his advisors, but you cannot hide a crime behind that are purely of crime behind that standard. So it's it's it's a shaky business. But on the other hand, I think there are four justices on the supreme court who would basically right now go along with anything Donald Trump wanted to do and you could see that in evidence in the census case just a couple of weeks ago where essentially couple. The justices were sounding like defense attorneys for Mr. Trump, not not impartial judges. But you know, the Democrats when you look at this. They're seven percent of this Muller report has been redacted overall. And in the second volume which deals with obstruction. Barely one percent redacted is that really where you wanna make your fight. I was thinking this week. If the president says, these aren't like impartial people. He says about the Democrats know, they're not what about showing impartial people this week eight hundred I believe now former officials prosecutors at the Justice department, many of them Republicans have come out and said the president committed multiple felonies, why not hearings hearing from selections of Republicans saying on this on that on the other. He he obstructed Justice. Those could not be accused of being a partial people since some of them were involved in the in the impeachment of Bill Clinton, showcase Stolberg, Bill barred, the attorney general has been described similarly as playing sort of a defensive role or personal attorney role rather than purely attorney general's role. There's been some talk about the question of whether the attorney about the trouble that the attorney general is in on Capitol Hill. Fully like, what would this mean? If the house were to find him in contempt beyond finding him. In contempt itself. What does that do for the attorney general are they going to send the sergeant of arms down Pennsylvania Avenue? Take them Pol. Put him back in the stockade. What happens? I don't. I don't think. So the house has moved to hold a turns general and content before notably Eric Holder, and and not have been right, right? Not so long ago. But, but it is a very serious message about how House Democrats feel about Bill bar. They feel that he really is doing the president's bidding that he came to the Senate for his confirmation hearings professing to be sort of a Washington grownup a neutral arbiter, somebody who would steer the ship in a correct and and neutral way, and instead they feel like he really has become the president's mouthpiece that he spun the Mullah the mullahs report when he released it he I he didn't release it right away. He released a four page summary. Which Bob Muller felt was not accurately reflecting his views. And you know, that that's where it kind of leaves us. We are talking about the week's biggest news stories of bunch of them fit under this rubric of the tension between the White House and congress were interested. In your thoughts me, I'm David Folkenflik in. This is on point. The fact that in two thousand and nineteen where having this debate about measles vaccine makes my head want to explode, which is tennis strange really strange place in the only people speaking up. The parents endless thread, the podcast from WBU are Boston's NPR station and read it brings you a special series on the history of vaccines in antibac- Sers. Subscribe on apple podcasts or wherever you listen. This is on point. I'm David Folkenflik. We're taking a look back at the week in the news. We'll talk about revelations about the president's taxes and finances from a few decades ago and the subpoena of Donald Trump junior. Follow us on Twitter findings on the Facebook ad on point radio. I'm talking with NPR White House reporter each Rasco New York Times, congressional correspondent Sheryl Stolberg. And on points on news analyst, Jack Beatty Atia. Let's talk for a moment about some of these other elements that falls I under- the larger umbrella these tensions between the executive and legislative branches of government. It sounds like civics it kind of is. But it's playing out in real time. And it's intense. The president is asserting as I understand it executive privilege over Don Mcgann, former White House counsel, what's what's at stake. There. What's going on? Well, so if you remember Don Mcgann played a big role in the Muller report. And specifically when it comes to the issue of obstruction. Of justice. You know, he was the one who said that President Trump basically directed him to get rid of Muller. And then later on asked him to deny that he had done that. And there are notes and other things that Democrats want to get access to and they wanted to hear from again. But this week of the White House said that the documents that Mcgann had turned over were basically still belong to the White House, and that Mcgann does not have the right or the authority to release them. And that any requests must come to the White House, and you can imagine they probably won't be very generous in giving them to the Democrats, and so far, although the president said he had no problem with Muller himself testifying and the Don excuse me in that William bar said basically that that he was fine with that. They're not exactly making that happen anytime soon. Right. I it's it's really unclear with that because they had been saying so bar said he didn't see. Problem with it. But then you and the president was kind of saying that. But then he had this tweet where he said he doesn't think that Muller should actually testify that it would be a redo and then he was asked about it again yesterday. And he said, well, I'm leaving it up to bar. So right now it's really unclear but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen soon. Obviously once Muller is no longer an employee of the Justice department. He can pretty much do what he wants. I'm it's not clear that they would be able to really hold him up. Then I guess there may be certain things that he might not be able to talk about. But but right now, it does seem to be kind of in this limbo, actually, one last thing along these lines in terms of this. Some of would the president seemed to be asserting or as people seem to be asserting was what was called. I believe a preemptive executive privilege, which is a, hey, we want to sort through some of this stuff. We're just going to assert this in a blanket way. And we may come back with more specific concerns, which does that affect and how much do you think? Is it your sense that that is truly a legal kind of technical strategy as opposed to we really just don't wanna give anything, but we're going to draw out the process. Well, it seems like what they're trying to say is we want to preemptively not give something because we want to have time to look at this and say, well, this is subject to executive privilege, so they're exerting this privilege over everything just to give them time. The issue is I think once they start actually going through with the idea of this is subject to executive privilege, then that can really be challenged now that it's not going to be challenged now. But there's a question of how much they can actually assert because I think as you said earlier they've already allow these things to be released to the special counsel's office. And you've already had a public report that is now a bestseller on all of this. Information. So to now say that you have to keep it secret. There are questions about whether that will actually hold up in court. I wanna take a call now from providence. Rhode Island's Cynthia is calling in Cynthia. What's your thoughts here? Thank you for taking my call who did the show opened with who has the better case has better argument question, and I would push back on that and say that this is not about was better case and better argument about what is best for the ideals of this country is the best about what is best for the people of this country. This is not about Dem's versus Republicans versus congress versus the executive branch. If those folks in the administration who are pushing back on this effort hides the American people at the pinnacle of their priority list. They would be forthcoming the rest of it is just a kabuki dance. It's just being lost in the new show. So they can actually scape. Truth so subpoena them to heck and get them in their reporting. And and released report. Thank you for that. Call Cynthia Jack Beatty, a Cynthia guest describing kabuki theatre projected against a wall meet of stone. How much do you sense Jack Beatty that that there is a desire by Democrats to to get back to business, and how much do you sense that there's sort of an urgency to use this as a as a weapon against the president that they very much oppose. Jack beatty. Well, buddy, will we'll come back to in a little bit Sheryl Stolberg say that. Yeah. Please talk to me about what you sense from from Democrats on the hill, the the hunger to go after the president to use this against the president versus the desire to kind of get back to the kinds of issues that that allowed the Democrats retake the majority in the house just just last year. So I think they see those as as competing tensions on the one hand. Democrats do fiercely believe that the country is in a constitutional crisis. They believe that the president is trying to run roughshod over congress and the strength run roughshod over the constitution by refusing to cooperate with what they regard as their legitimate oversight authority that said they don't want that to run over to message that they are committed to lowering prescription drug costs helping people retain their head. Health coverage dealing with the opioid crisis. All the things that they ran and won on. And so you'll hear them say over and over again, Hakeem Jeffries, who's the chairman of the House Democratic caucus will say over and over again. We ran on healthcare. We ran on, you know, making life better for the American people. We didn't run on impeachment. But they will also say, but we have a constitutional duty to act we have a constitutional duty to look into these allegations in the mullahs report. Bob Muller site, it's ten specific instances in which the president may have obstructed Justice and left it to congress to decide whether or not he did and whether or not that was worthy of impeachment, and they feel that they do need to go down that road. They would like to proceed as much as they can on parallel tracks. So they don't want this fight over subpoenas to sort of consume the entire Washington conversation. You know, as I mentioned earlier, there are a lot of facets to this tension between the White House and congress at the moment. On Wednesday, the Washington Post Robert Kosta asked house speaker Nancy Pelosi about the prospect of holding Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin in contempt or even resting him for failing to hand over six years worth of President Trump's personal and business tax returns policy quipped about having a jail in the capital basement. But she said she would defer to the Massachusetts Democrat leading that charge which e Neal's a chairman is a means committee. He has a path that very again all of this is so law and precedent based to do the right thing as we go forward, and there are several options. One of them is to go directly to court amazingly. The Treasury Secretary basically said there's no legitimate legislative purpose for getting these these documents. And so we're not going to hand them over. Then there was splashed over the pages of of the New York Times. There were these new revelations about the president and his. Passed in the eighties nineties previous to what what the house committee had been looking for. And they found that he had lost over a billion dollars over a ten year period ice, rascal. What was the import of those records? Well, I mean, it it shows a basically just how massive and kind of in ways unprecedented for one person to have that big of losses. And at times, he you know, had more losses than you know. Almost all tax payers like I mean, these are massive amounts of money. And so for people who say that the president's tax returns should be looked over by congress. They point to this story as a perfect example of why the his tax returns should be looked into because what what was going on. Now, I should say congress not asking for these tax returns from like decades ago, they're asking for the past six years. But they, but the argument is that this is something that deserves to be looked into. I think it also speaks to this larger idea that this isn't just about the Russian investigation. Right. Like that that what the White House is arguing is that they're arguing on multiple fronts because all of these investigations on about Russia. Some of them are about the president's personal finances. And he's saying no, you also don't get to look at that either. You don't have a legitimate legislative PERC. Purpose, and there are larger implications for that. Because if the president at this point can do it there will be other presidents in the future, and congress if this goes through congress will be limited in what they can ask for it. And when you start getting into what is a legitimate legislative purpose of that is going to kind of if that goes if that if the courts buy into that could significantly limit a Congress's oversight. Authorities. I'd like to take a call now from Gumri Alabama. Ashley, thanks for hanging in there. What's your thoughts? Hi, folks. I I ball maybe say my ass. I books is the most biased NPR report of ever seen. And he's wrong on almost everything. Can I just interrupt briefly? Actually may just in Ripley. He's he's he's a commentator. He's columnist for the New York Times. And he's a commentator for NPR. So he's not we're not asking him to be a reporter a reporter in my other job. But just want to clarify that he does have points of view. But that is what he's paid to have. Well, y'all put in front and seven center for the past ten years. I listen to all the time. Yes, sir. He certainly sweeping anyhow. Yes, sir. Go ahead. I'll listen to the report on Donald Trump's taxes, and it was Flanders. And I'm you should be ashamed of yourself for broadcasting something like that everything he did was legal and ethical. He's a smart businessman in full proprietor. Apparently, your panel members. Do not understand that. And it's time to get on with the business guys and stop playing around with the president's finance and family. We got a country to run. Thank you very much. Thank you for your call. Ashley. I wouldn't think that reporting on what the times had found in the material intact records would be actionable. But Jack Beatty tell us about that, you know, if we if you listen to FOX and friends Steve Doocy said, you know, this is just the way people behaved in real estate New York in the eighties nineties, and that the New York Times, of course, is not accusing him of anything illegal probably worth reminding listeners that back in the spring of two thousand eighteen the New York Times did actually commit a accused the president and his sister of essentially defrauding the federal government of taxes in the ways in which they arranged certain things. What what what about Ashley's point there, Jack Beatty? What about the question of look? He's a businessman there is nothing legal alleged here in the New York Times is recount wire. Are we delving into what is personal and business? Finances were in the nineteen eighties nineties. Because it goes to his penchant for bad decisions. You know, he he lost this money. He lost perhaps more money than any single tax payer in the country over that period. Why? Well, because of you know, was imprudent to to to be used a delicate term investment in airlines in sports teams in the hotels and just again and again bad judgment. What's interesting to me is the way in which the media fed this and Karen tumbled in today's Washington Post as delicious column bringing that back a December nineteen eighty-seven people magazine cover with with Trump on it too darn rich is the headline news week. He's the man with the Midas fist. And then going back to nineteen seventy six they quote from this gushing times piece profile of them, use tall, lean and blond looks like Robert Redford estimated worth more than two. Hundred million in fact, at the time his his income was twenty four thousand dollars. So the media has again and again both four and aft in Trump's career early on. And then in the relief up to two sixteen really enabled his his rise. You know, it's sort of an amazing thing happened this week as well. The Senate intelligence committee subpoenaed, President Trump's son Donald Trump junior earlier this week, South Carolina, Republican Senator Lindsey Graham told reporters, he doesn't think the president's son should appear not his lawyers of what to do Bowers outlook putting back into this circus. That freak show in the house. I'm not going to let it come to the Senate. So we gave Muller two years and twenty five million dollars. And it's over for me shell gay Stolberg at this is actually a Republican led committee. Although it tends to run pretty collaboratively between Republicans and Democrats. What does it say to you that the the Republican led Senate intelligence committee issued this Pena? So this is very interesting because the Republican led Senate intelligence committee is doing really the only bipartisan investigation of Russian influence in the twenty sixteen elections on Capitol Hill and Democrats on Capitol Hill were elated when Richard Burr Senator Richard Burr, the chairman of the committee issued this subpoena for Don jR, and they thought, wow, this is sort of evidence that the Republicans are really, you know, gonna dig into this. And and it really helps to make this gives us a bipartisan sheen and also Don, jR, fed into the controversy by. Balking at this. But if you look at actually why they issued the subpoena it appears to be a pretty standard subpoena. Don, jR, spoke to Senate investigators staff members. And now that the mullahs report has been issued the committee in the final stages of its investigation would like him to be questioned by senators, and that's really all it was. But it's blown up into this kind of big political brouhaha with, you know, Republicans fighting with one another some of the vulnerable revolt horrible, Republicans ones who are running for reelection. Or now under pressure to push back on the subpoena, and it sort of devolved into a Republican internal free-for-all. We're getting comments online who really cares about Trump's personal business from win online. Another listener rights. Steve Mnuchin is willfully breaking the law. So I guess lock them up right law and order, folks. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell wants to put an end to this. He spoke on the Senate floor Tuesday declaring it's time to shut. The book I move on from the special counsel's investigation told everyone there've been a conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign. Yet on the central question, special counsels? Finding is clear case closed. Case closed, Jack Beatty, and the limited time we have left. Does the case seemed to be closed on Muller? People really pushing the move on. There's there's a momentum. You just can't deny. And and how ironic of mR Macron will be saying that since in the fall of two thousand sixteen he he did he said, I don't want to open the case when the CIA came to him and said we need to come up and denounce what the Russians doing? He said. No, I won't not open it case closed. He argues when we're gonna discuss what else drove the headlines this week when we come back in Washington n beyond question of tariffs with China tensions with Iran and more. I'm David Folkenflik in. This is on point. Ten or twelve minutes. That's all we need to get. You started every morning. The biggest news stories from politics to pop culture with the analysis. You need to understand. What's happening? Listen to up first, weekdays from NPR news. This is on point. I'm NPR media. Correspondent David Folkenflik. We're talking about the week in news, including trade tensions with China nuclear tensions with Iran. Follow us on Twitter and Facebook at on point radio. My guests are shell gay Stolberg of the New York Times Asia Rasco of NPR and on points. Check Beatty before we moved two major stories. The segment I wanna do a couple of stories worth noting in at least passing to journalist for Reuters were freed finally after a five hundred and eleven days of after being arrested by the regime in Myanmar. And that is considered a great victory finally for press freedoms and hope for a folks who are. Being prevented from reporting on the news in that country and elsewhere throughout the world there, was course, was a Royal baby. Born Archie Harrison, Mountbatten Windsor, half American baby a baby with African American heritage sign of retaken as a breath of fresh air in the United Kingdom. And of course, in this country, a terrible shooting an eighteen year old named Kendrick. Casteel was killed trying to stop school shooter in Denver on Tuesday. Eight others wounded when two people up and fire a twelve year old named Nate Holly was in a classroom during the shooting, and he spoke to CNN. Them to shut up in Seattle tied behind her desk and one shooter got closer. She moved us into the closet. I was hiding in the corner, and they were right outside the door. I had my hand on a metal baseball bat. Just in case because I was going to go down fighting if I was going to go down. Kendrick and who died neat. Holly being cited as people evincing heroism, but they're just so young. It's it's it's striking in and almost impossible to process it. That's what they're being asked to do in these moments of incredible danger school children just trying to get an education. I do you want to move Rasco to the question of our trade. Tensions with China. Right now negotiators have been from China have been at the White House in Washington. Trying to talk through the stuff. What's the state of affairs? There. So right now, there are talks still ongoing. There were talks last night. And I guess there was a dinner. And now they are supposed to be talking. But the US has raised a tear of I believe at twenty five percent on a certain Chinese goods that would be imported into the US. So he has followed through or the US has followed through on that threat. There is I think some leeway because it doesn't the terrorists won't apply to goods that are already in transit. So there's a possibility if they could reach some sort of deal very quickly, then somehow, you know, it wouldn't wouldn't really feel the impacts of it. But President Trump was tweeting this morning, and you can see a lot of his concern is about farmers and agriculture. He's basically saying we will bring more in with tariffs than we could ever do even with a great deal with China and. That farmers will do better if the government buys their if the US government buys their products and buys crops, and so we don't have to wait on China. So there does seem to be some concern from the White House about farmers being affected by this. But right now, a President Trump is kind of saying the US has the upper hand on what to take a call from a what pawn Wisconsin a Todd you're calling in. What are your thoughts about all this? Hi, thank you so much for having me on regards what's happening here in the mid west. It's. Soy prices are. So messed up you can't afford to put in the ground. What you stored waiting for a higher price? You can't afford to store. You know, we're at a crisis here. Now as farmers where it's like we're taking on chin for too long. It's like we can't be making Fakher ffices because there's nothing left. You know, we we have taken it. And and made the fact right? So they, you know, throw anything happened this past, you know, the weather's changing. It's too wet the plant one of the verge of losing a million species in this world, all beneficial things that helped me a farmer all this is going on the hologram of Donald Trump administration. Just steals all the lights it steals all the attention from just the concerns of everyday farmers. I Gary farmers performing their own dentistry, and I'll leave it at that. American todd. Thank you so much for that. Call in for that visceral way of evoking what is going on on the ground near where you are. And what you're experiencing showcase Stolberg just quickly for a tariff. You know, the president says I should as pointed out that we we can get more through our tariffs than than we're going to get otherwise through freer trade tariffs, obviously are levied on the goods that come in from China. Right. So it's actually raising prices here at the US. Could there be a benefit are there ways in which at times tariffs or the threat of Taras do yield important advantages for American goods and the American consumer? Well, there may be, but I don't think that the studies show that that is happening. This time. The president has said that American consumers are actually benefiting from his trade. In fact, there have been several recent studies showing that the opposite is true studied by UCLA in March estimated that annual consumer product losses were sixty eight point billion dollars. As a result of the tariffs washing machine. Prices have gone up. That's washing machines. They're tariffs on washing machines rose twelve percent for US consumers and interestingly dryers, which are not subject to the tariffs prices on dryers, also rose. So I think it it is hard for President Trump to make the case that this is beneficial to American consumers, and you just heard this sort of heart wrenching testimony in effect from the caller who I couldn't believe. It when he said, you know, farmers are doing their own dentistry. So I think the president will have to answer for that. And some Republicans have to answer for it during the midterm elections. The question is how long will people affected by these tariffs, especially the farmers? Stay with the president on this and stay with congress. A congressional Republicans want to take a couple of quick calls in this very tolerant topic, a Dustin his calling from Dubuque Iowa a dozen go right ahead. Hi, I want to empathize with your person. I live in Iowa in a host, our whole states underwater, the east side of the state on the Mississippi River, the west side of the state on a meserve ever. So absolutely. The the farmers are in a desperate situation. The situation I see with China that they steal all of our intellectual property, and they have no regard for patent rights whatsoever. They talk about Chinese investing in the industrial espionage. Well, how they don't have to do in industrial espionage. They just come over here and buy one and take it over there and copy it that's been a joke for years that everyone knows what that if you want something illegal. You can go to China and buy it. So if the president is of the lease trying to to work with some of the companies in corporations to to do that. I I feel that he's doing an excellent job of that. I want to also say that your call. After a couple of callers earlier from West Virginia or Kentucky wherever he was from said, let's let's get on with the us. We've spent two hundred million dollars within Muller investigation, which which is we have we have serious issues in this country, and we don't need to be just wasting them. And throwing the money away. I get up every morning and try to pay my bills and go to work, and these people are blithering on on the radio, and it makes me sick the way the government operates. All right. Well, thanks for sharing your thoughts and concerns on that dust and check Beatty before we move on question of. The question of Iran. I wanted to ask you a little bit about the politics of tariffs. What are what are the various forces at play here in the president's decision. Make well perhaps it's hard to judge about the presence. But in terms of proposing greater tariffs would of the political forces in play here. Well, you know in a big piece of reporting in the financial times this week from Iowa they quote Iowans saying, why aren't the Democrats talking about these tariffs, and what they're doing to our to our soybeans and to our crops, and and they do talk about it when asked, but they don't bring it up. Bernie Sanders the other night on PBS NewsHour. What about the president's tariffs? Oh, I'm I'm against the tariffs. But you're for being tough on China. Yes. But I'm against the tariffs. Democrats seem to want to have it both ways they wanna be tough on China. But they don't like the tariffs is does if they're looking at Pennsylvania industrial state with one we want. To be tough on China, and sort of losing the focus on the on the on Iowa and those states where they, you know, they reluctant to to get into talking about the effects of this straightway. And of course, you have people like Heidi Heitkamp who ran for reelection unsuccessfully last year in two thousand sixteen in Dakota. And she says, look, I ran on these against these tariffs, and what it was doing to farmers, and I got my head ended to me. This may not be a winning issue when it turn now to question of Iran. The president obviously made a one of his signature foreign policy positions, the idea of undoing President Obama's a deal with Iran to freeze the Iranian progress towards having nuclear level, excuse me, weapons level nuclear material. The president has turned the screws announced that he was pulling the country out of it. Iran announced this week. It would begin to move away from some. Restrictions put in place by the deal, which was struck in two thousand fifteen in response. President Trump has signed an executive order imposing fresh sanctions on Iran's metals industries while I mean, Republican Senator John Barrasso defended the presence actions and criticize the Obama era deal. He spoke on Fox News yesterday. The president is absolutely right Iran with a nuclear weapon would make the world less safe less stable less secure the Iran deal from the Obama administration was a bad deal. It was so bad. It never even came to the US Senate for approval, and ratification the president was right to withdraw and the president is right to add additional sanctions. He's going after oil so far and now has added steel, aluminum and other metals, you should Rasco what are the what does this achieve and what are the implications of it? Well, what they're hoping to do with the sanctions on metals. This is the kind of the second largest kind of source of export revenue for Iran outside. Of crude oil. So they're trying. They're already have gone after the petroleum exports trying to bring them down to zero. So this is a part of just kind of squeezing Iran, and is squeezing Iran's economy. The hope is that Iran will come to the table and be willing to negotiate with the US. There is a question of. And there's always a question around these kind of sanctions how effective they are at actually bringing people to the table or bring country's civil table and getting these negotiations going and whether Iran after having agreed to the Iran to the first nuclear deal, whether they would now trust the US to to do another deal. But that is what the intention of the administration as I wanna play clip now reporters asked yesterday, a President Trump if he's satisfied with the advice that he receives from somebody who's been very hawkish on Iran and North Korea and other issues, and that's national. Security advisor, John Bolton, strong views and things, but that's okay. I actually temper John, which is pretty amazing. Isn't it? Nobody thought that was gonna I I'm the one that tempers him. But that's okay. I have different sides. I mean, I have John Bolton and have other people that are a little more dovish than him. And ultimately, I make the decision. I get I like, John. I get very good advice from Jones, check Beatty. Tell us about the role that John Poelten's Bolton is right playing at this moment in the nation's foreign policy. Well, he's sort of the rest Butin of war. I mean, that's his he's whispering war or at all times all places throughout his career. And we are now in a situation that could result in war. We're getting closer and closer with to that with Iran this week, the US central command leader general MacKenzie said that the US was building its forces up in the region, quote in direct response to a number of troubling and escalatory indicators and warnings. What are they and how they come about? Well last month secretary punt peyot designated Iran's revolutionary guard as a terrorist organization. He did that against the advice of the Pentagon and the CIA who feared the consequences of US forces in the Middle East and sure enough last week, president Behani Ronnie, essentially, put a bullseye on those forces. He declared US forces from the Middle East terrorists in Iraq alone. There are one hundred and twenty five thousand Shiite militiamen many in cahoots with Iran. There are only fifty two hundred Americans. They are target out there, and the feeling you can sort of see it in the background is is while Trump is talking about. Oh, I just want to talk to the Iranians and have a good John Bolton is in the pudding forces out there that could result in a in an unintended or even provoked escalation, and of course, the rainy embassador the UN was asked about this. Do you think the US is trying to provoke war? He said on the news hour. Yes, I think it is. And then of course, embassador Wendy Sherman who negotiated the Iran tweedy said, oh, no. I don't think the United States government is looking for a war doesn't she know John Bolton is isn't she aware that Pompeo is essentially said are our only thought with Iran is Regina change. And yet. Of course, the president himself has been tortuously skeptical about in some ways getting the US in Michigan actual ground wars. Even as there's been this hawkish things emanating, I want briefly very last issued a touch on show gay Stolberg. You know, Joe Biden, former vice president longtime Senator seems to have emerged with incredible strong numbers in the polls. It's obviously wildly premature. But at the same time, you know, what does history tell us about the degree to which such a lead many double digit lead can hold up. Well, there's a reason why presidential contenders liked to paint themselves as underdogs because these kinds of double digit leads typically do not hold up. We have a long way to go before the presidential election. There will be debates, and I think that is going to be a very significant indicator of whether Biden can hold his lead. We'll how he performed how will he perform on the debate stage. Certainly he crumbled in Eighty-eight when when gaffes and other things that came to light be interesting to see how he plays out now with presidential experience under his belt. You've been hearing there from Sheryl gay Stolberg. She's New York Times congressional correspondent, thanks so much for joining us. Thank you for having. We've also benefited from the insights of Aisha Rasco. She's NPR's White House. Correspondent thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me on points on news analyst, Jack Beatty. Jack have a great weekend. Vegetative you can continue the conversation. Get the on point podcast or website on point radio dot org. You can follow us on Twitter finance and Facebook ad on point radio or executive. User is Karen Shiffman. I'm David Folkenflik in. This is on point.

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Have nothing to do with Putin had never spoken to him. I don't know anything about him other than he will. Respect me Russia. If you're listening I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing so it is political. Your Communist know Mr Green. Communism is just a red herring like all members of the oldest profession. I'm a capitalist. Hello and welcome to muller she wrote. I'm your host G. and with me today during Coburn Hulu and Amanda Reader and do we have a great show for you today A lot of molar news is ripening. Which sounds Weird But it is including some court rulings that will impact cases from more investigation. We have stories about Eric. Prince who back in the News Concord Management. That's if Gani Provision Joint The Don mcgann subpoena has news a Rosneft. We've got a new story from Rosneft. Christopher Steele is in the news and some sabotage with Robert Hyde. That's crazy dude. That was stalking hurry. Ivanovich and an interview with the host of the on topic podcast Renato Mariotti. Who's here to talk talk to us about the legal ramifications of the decisions and the filings going forward in mcgann subpoena case by the House Judiciary for the latest on the twenty twenty election and corona virus outbreak Check out and the Senate's investigation one hundred hundred Biden and all that check out. Our sister podcast. The daily beans first thing Monday morning or Sunday. Night if you're a patron how're you? How was your weekend I have? I've had a frontier from San Francisco. And we've just been eating everything for two days all done literally all done since I last saw you is eat. I know I'm on the last final week coming up like approaching the final week of my fitness challenge or orange. Three fitness is an eight week. Long thing Four weeks in I was in third place. I think I may. I think I might take a dip coming up here but when you're done feast yeah. I've already doing that but there were burritos. What are you supposed to say no right? Yeah no my God you grab decorated with two hands and you eat it side to side with paper friends. She's Irish and she I'm so forceful with my love of Santa Mexican food. Has I've talked about before on the show at the very end of the trip. Just now she goes. How like Mexican food damage? And that's like all. I took her to eat the whole weekend but she was. She didn't want to disappoint. Meeks I was so enthusiastic it was like Oh shit. I'm so so well enjoy your enchiladas on the flight home. San Diego has like so many different amazing pockets of cuisine. Also So for next time you can check out convoy true controversial. She said she thinks that San Diego's Fuzi might be better than the bay area whoo controversial statement. But she's a Foodie so she was a yelp Super League's name Schick some Napkins drawer full of ketchup packets. They don't give you not that I ever go through the McDonalds drive through late at night that they don't give you catch up anymore unless you ask And they haven't been doing that for that as one of their only redeeming qualities. Right there ketchup. I always forget to ask that massive amounts of they would give to. You is when I go into fast food restaurants. I prefer the catch up pomp To the packets true like in and out of his way better I agree. Yeah another Fraser Shit interesting. I love their fries. We just had this discussion the other day where I was like. There's two wolves inside. One wants to eat like nutritious. Whole healthy food. I made us like really good leaking. Kema so good and the other wolf inside me once. Mcdonald's both on Jordan's t shirt I heard beyond me is coming to McDonald's which is very exciting for in non meat eater but Speaking of feasting. Really quick what I did this weekend. Do y'all watch master chef. Yes okay do you remember dino the winner that has like the tattoos e always is baby doll of is like kind of insane? Yeah Okay So. He was doing a menu for Veterans Foundation Fundraiser basically on Friday so me Dallas Sam Dallas his wife. Aj In ages. Wife Jenna and Ryan and I. We all went to this food tasting fundraiser. Or Dido was a chef it we got to meet Dino and he explained the menu now that shoes like a five course meal master. Chef superfan ho I am. I know right in my hand. Everyone did that. Clearly we were only there for dino and everybody else was there for the veteran's association of it's like everybody's like above seventy years old and it's just this like tech table of tattooed pierced like young people that are just. Yeah we're all jurong can just fuck in. It was the best Doodo bring out dino. That's what it was like for us when rich had I think he's still works around to around down? He was on the other chef. Show top job top chef. He had our gang he's into tots. That's what that's what is things like. Oh yeah yeah these ones that were infused with greer. That used. Yeah they were good your discovered this weekend and my wife's been telling me about this for five years there's a shop in little. Italy called Shakespeare's and they have all my favorite British chocolate. Ooh serve you are from the British isles and you live in so cal. Shakespeare's in San Diego has everything you didn't know about Shakespeare. I knew about her went. Oh Yeah Yeah. And they have a a little t room up there they do. Yeah and they have of course downstairs. Shakespeare's Joe My my Irish and we used to live together in London and so she lives in California and so we went to this. Amazing British shop. Is this the one? That's I kind of in Linda Vista actually notion house down by Louis Braille Josh. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah cool anyway and we. We took my goddaughter there for a Harry Potter High. Tall and we were batons. Who's called the fucking Love Food and as Jack Handy says if Jesus lives inside of US I hope he likes burritos because so we have a lot of news to get to know your here. It's a new show. You're welcome but first we have a few corrections Erin. I made a mistake. Okay from Sloan Russell and also Leonard Grossman you a ray of truthful light. Oh thank you Fyi capital punishment can be used for federal and military crimes like treason not just state crimes. Also as a gruesome side note. The government hasn't been executing people for federal crimes. But bar is bringing it back So Sh- she wanted us to know that capital capital punishment is illegal Penalty under the United States federal government criminal justice system. It can actually be imposed for treason. Hope it sunny and San Diego. You are amazing. It actually just stopped raining. So this is what is now used to drive a little bit thank you. Yes thank you from Gerald and also Mattie. It's awesome to hear civil disagreement about primary picks. The three Mexico's not trumpism. Despite sounding like one it's it actually came from the dirks over at Fox News. The Fox and friends weekend crew referred to El Salvador Guatemalan Honduras as the three Mexican countries in a segment about president. Trump's plan to cut aid to Central Americans in Central America. We started it. Yeah Yeah it was the dirks at Fox News Would love to see all the live show to meet my Daily News with swearing. She rose from Hannah. I love your show. It's the only news I can listen to without feeling existential dread it's all the Burrito talk While it's true most Bernie's base won't vote for Biden for president than the other way around not most of but more of it's disingenuous to say Bernie. Voters won't vote blue in down ballot races or would stay home. If Biden gets the nomination without pulling to back that claim up sanders strongest demographics. Eighteen to forty people of Color and college educated. Were a major driver of the blue wave in two thousand eighteen. According to Pew Each Group Voting Blue. By thirty plus point margins with higher than average turnout and electing many moderate Democrats. Thank you preemptively from me for the next eight months of panic work. I do have a polling that does show percentages of which of the candidates would vote for another candidate. Yang was the number one candidate whose whose supporters would not vote for anyone else. Yeah that actually checks out with the Yanks. Reporters have seen on twitter too which is interesting because like a lot of celebrities kind of endorse him too and it seems like these are celebrities that just shit on politics constantly and are not in the space where they're willing to do the VO poonam. Is there like a hash? Because there's like the Bernier Best Hashtag Zari Yang Hashtag gang or gang gang But they were very about like those are the folks who would never fucking vote him all. Vote for anyone else interesting and again. That was only a couple of people that I saw and I totally. Yes I know that a lot of young supporters are proudly voting blue. Yeah but I did get that from an actual poll. I don't know I didn't look at the breakdown of the poll. How many people etc etc didn't test validity But It was a poll that I saw from Aaron Ross Science reporter with Oregon Public Broadcasting High all of msw in the daily beans. I can't say how much your news and commentary keeps me Sane. Everything is well reported and fair. Your election coverage has been a breath of fresh air in last Monday's edition. A few of you were asking why people shouldn't purchaser where medical masks as a precaution. I mean if it works for health officials shouldn't be safe. The thing is there's currently a global shortage of medical masks and people who are sick or caring for sick really need them and since most people don't know how to properly wear a mask anyway they're pretty useless for the general public like you said and wash your hands. Nice seriously I love the podcast. Glad you're taking time out of politics to cover an incredibly important story. One journalist to another reporting helps me sift through the mess and focus on my job writing about science and Corona virus. Hey Cools and the Nice Nice. Thank you public radio. Nice from cow. I know I love them from Alex. Shaffer your honestly keeping me in probably several hundred thousand others from having a stroke the world is you. Give us light to remind us that other people are in the darkness to and we're not alone your comment on voter turnout youth. Voter turnout wasn't wrong per se but nuanced the thirteen percent number on Tuesday for eighteen to twenty nine year olds. Wasn't there turn out. But it was the percentage turnout that was eighteen to twenty nine around. Nineteen percent of the electorate is eighteen to twenty nine so the percent of that turn out shouldn't be that high anyway. It's still low but the participation rate is around sixty eight percent and to know actual turnout. I would need the number of voters which we didn't know yet to conclude youngsters more energized. Like we wanted. But it's better than it sounds. Okay all right. Cool thank you. Yeah from Taylor Beauvois. Your legal reporting is topnotch. I'm always super impressed. And happy to learn. Every time legal news drops Amanda mentioned having climate anxiety and then went on to talk about. Biden's support coming from oil money and fame and from his environmental policy is less progressive than burns. Just so you know. Biden signed a no fossil fuel money. Pledge This campaign cycle additionally produced the first climate change bill to Congress in the Eighties. Biden's climate goal is also the same as Bernie's carbon-free by twenty fifty any plans to commit five trillion dollars in total and fight climate. Change Nice Thank you for that. I hadn't looked up the bullet points on his climate. That's awesome More than any other. Podcast it's nice to hear from you all about the things that give me one living abroad. I appreciate the coverage in the real conversation that takes place about the state of our nation how we can help. Thank you so those are corrections. If you have any for us please head to she wrote. Dot Com click contact select corrections and build us a compliment sandwich. We'll get right eventually. We do have a lot of news to get to. So let's get to it with just the facts all right so we got some big news. In the Buzzfeed Foia case seeking the underlying Muller investigation evidence this week as the judge. Reggie Walton questioned the credibility of Bill Bar and the Department of Justice. After their spin on the molar findings in that. Four page memo. He released last April. The judge then ordered the Department of Justice to hand over the entire unredacted. Mola report to the court so he could review it and camera which means in his private office. We have with a camera really interesting then in Latin for under the roof. I think the camera we have a lot more. On the details of this case and the path forward in the interview later with Renato Mariotti Walton gave the Department of Justice until March thirtieth to hand over the unredacted Muller report. That's the day before the Supreme Court is set to hear the Deutsche Bank in many cases and the day before bill bar is set to testify to the House Judiciary Committee provided. He's still the attorney. General please note. We have no inside sources just public reporting to speculate bill. Barham might leave his job. It's not it's just what I think and from politico Us prosecutors from the Muller team. Say They have a mystery witness? Who will directly implicate? Putin's shift promotion. Who was the head of Concord Management and ran the Internet research and it will implicate him in schemes to carry out election interference overseas. The trial is set to begin in DC next month and the witnesses The this witness is prepared to testify in the case that Muller brought against Thirteen Russians and concord management none of the charged individuals or known to have been arrested or face charges but the entity concord management actually hired American lawyers to fight the case in in what we all considered to be like trial. Yeah a trolling of the American courts. Because we know from previous reporting. They did that to get their hands on muller documents which they later falsified released saying they hacked. The Mueller probe until this reporting evidence was expected to be comprised of emails budgets. Pretty Dry Shit record records detailing the effort called Project Lakhta so the prosecution's announcement that they have a live witness prepared to detail. Face to face dealings with Gordon came as a surprise. So you remember that spy that was deep in the Kremlin and we tried to pull him out and he resisted. He said No. I'm going to stay Then eventually came back to the United States. I have beans on it being him. because one of the lawyers dropped some hints in the February twenty. First hearing for this case the Concord Management Case I they're having the witness testified under a pseudonym and as we know Bob Woodward wrote in the book fear that six human sources Backed up the CIS assessment that the Russian sought to undermine Clinton in two thousand sixteen that Kremlin source is one of those six sources his name. We now know to be leg smullen cough so my beans are on Oleg. We may never know who the mystery witnesses. But that's who I think it is interesting. I have a quick question if you're representing an entity that's international and they're not physically showing up speaking for themselves but you're getting paid for money that's overseas. Is there any sort of like or do you think there's any sort of extra you have to go through to sorta register yourself as a representative for an overseas company Most like most court cases. I assume that you have to present yourself as the defense team right. Judge has to approve it in case it's probably that that sort of encapsulates That sort of process lysol within the courts. And you remember these guys you did reporting on this Jordan their their filings in court were like ridiculous they quoted tweety bird tunes or whatever and they dropped the F bomb in it. A couple of the and the judge was like. This isn't helping you but it was all supposed to just be this show trial anyway in here. All of a sudden Muller's teams like we got a witness And I just imagine concord management's like the. Yeah so that'll be funny. I think personally. We'll be back with more news including what Chris Steele is saying about the Miller report another judge requesting more Russian memo's ended update about that point. Five Percent Commission two hundred and eighty million dollars from the sell off of Rosneft. That's been missing. We have some updates on that so stay with us. Hey everybody it's ag in this episode of more she wrote is brought to you by neum. I used to think getting in shape being thin without any body fat having a diet of nothing but Kale and Kale flavored air. But I was wrong. Getting in shape doesn't have to be about a number on the scale or losing a specific amount of weight or anything like that actually. It's just about building healthier habits and feeling better about yourself having more energy and that's why I love new I've been using neum for about a year and a half And they helped me develop a new relationship with food and personalized the plan to my needs. 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Christopher Steele spoke to a group of students at Oxford University in England attacking the Miller report and trump's department of justice in his first public remarks since his dossier was published in two thousand seventeen This was like a little private group with those students but daily beast was invited steal the muller probe failed to do any drilling down into financial networks and leverage which he said is the crux of our Russian influence works Steele said. He was interviewed by the Miller team for two full days but said I was surprised that very little of what I had discussed with them appeared in the final report. He criticized the probe for being too narrow in scope and failing to follow up on crucial evidence. He complained about certain witnesses not being interviewed at all. Like Don Jr. for example and also went after the Department of Justice and its Inspector General Report on the Russia. Probe which criticized then. Fbi The The FBI's interactions with with Chris Steele. He went on to say that. He is not cooperating. With the Durham bar investigation. You know how far like Durham to Redo. He's not cooperating with that shit and he says I fully cooperated with the I G and as far as I'm concerned we've done our duty. We've set everything we've had to say on the matter certain point it's like you need to retain some personal dignity knocking through this country. Shit show totally like how many follow up. So you're going to have so you had the Russia probe then you had the I G report on the Russia probe and now you WANNA do another probe on the pro. Sorry I'm done with your pro. Exactly your talk your probe and from Josh Gerstein at Politico. I love this guy. There's another judge ordering the review of Russia Related Document and camera a federal judge has ordered the NSA to turn over a memo that details a conversation in which trump pleaded with former NSA chief. Mike Rogers to take action to rebut news. Reports ABOUT COLLUSION BETWEEN TRUMP RUSSIA. Sounds like another Obstruction of justice. Charge to me. The judge in the case Colleen Kollar Kotelly this name of effort so great. She said in a ruling Friday she needs to read the memo written by Rodgers. Deputy Rick Legend to decide whether it can be blocked from release in response to a foia suit. Trump in the department of justice opposed the in camera review by the judge but the judge disagrees saying in light of the arguments and legal principles making a responsible. Novo determination de Novo determination of the NSA's exemption claims requires an in camera review. That's lot of Latin. For I gotTA look at the ship before I decided we can release it fair. The Department of Justice says the memo's classified and exempt under the foia rules because it describes a confidential conversation between the president and the top advisor Liu watchdog group that filed the Foia request the protect Democracy Project says the privilege was effectively waived after Muller included. A summary of the conversation has reported last year. The judge says to make a decision she must compare what's in the memo to what's in the Miller report this paired with the Walton decision in the Buzzfeed for your case indicate that judges are sick of your shit. Yep they're increasingly unwilling to take representations from the trump administration the Department of Justice about the contents of documents being withheld and or redacted in these cases the NSA has until March thirteenth. That's four days from now to hand over the memo for review so I thought that was Yeah I'm really glad this fight is not done trying to get these unredacted memos and part of the report because it's like it was so it was such an egregious offense. You know how much we can assume that things were redacted when they shouldn't have been and to think that that was going to be the end of it was very discouraging so I'm really thankful for Yup buzzfeed and these judges and these watchdog groups and everybody. That's trying to relentlessly uncovered that stuff. Yeah it and it's it's really fascinating that it's all just sort of coming to light now because this is April last year. You Know Bar release that memo and everyone just threw their hands up and went. Well that's the end of the Muller thing but this is going to be coming out for years to. Wouldn't they like to believe that this was the end? Yeah they're I think they're just hoping it's the end until after the election. Although I don't think that I mean the the whole Muller reports should have spoken for itself and it didn't so you know maybe the Department of Justice's well we comply with these orders are base isn't GonNa care. Yeah really quick comment about the Christopher Steele thing. I feel like as someone that works in intelligence. He should know when you can't when you hit a. I don't know if it's different in Britain. Were where he works in his jurisdiction. But it seems like he didn't give any credit to the idea that you can only get so far for witnesses non-cooperative in if you literally can't discover more. It seems like that's what they said in the report. Basically is you know we couldn't or people refuse to talk to us or we just had to make a judgment call on. How long are we going to sit around and try to like wait and push for these things you know when they're when they're reluctant to give it to us? Yeah and Miller outlined that he. He brought that up in the mail report where he says. Look there'd be a lot more people in the lie deleting their conversations and fuck with my Shit Yeah Al- although I do think that a lot of the scope problems I don't know that Christopher Steele understands that the scope may have been limited probably was limited. Yeah by Rosenstein who attached to land the plane for trump. Yeah so to you know it. It is a little bit disingenuous to blame molar for that. But he also doesn't directly blame muller he just says the Miller report because it's missing all of this shit and one thing that Muller was not allowed to investigate was all the financial stuff which is Christopher Steele number. One thing he's like that's how Russia does their stuff totally his money stuff. You totally. You won't even let him do that. And we also know that Muller was not allowed to investigate whether the vote was impacted or not bring which blew my mind. Yeah but could be part of an open and ongoing Intelligence Community Intelligence investigation which we haven't heard anything about either. Yeah yeah his frustrations. I sympathize with the nineteen. I share them but just we have that perspective of knowing you know D. T. J. for example was incredibly reluctant to their every witness in that case with the exception of people like Rick Gates. And who else would you even put in his camp? He seems to be the most cooperative out of like all the witnesses and that report he was all talk with. Bannon was pretty. Yeah Yeah but aside from that. It's like they're just constantly hitting wall. So yeah goes STU. He's just overly friendly and Weird. Number was drunk So drunk I watched the clip the other day it came up in my time hop you know a year ago when Erin Burnett out front was like you smell booze buddy. I haven't had anything to drink. And she's like I can smell alcohol on your breath that's saying a lot in. Dc to the whole city is constantly half drug so if you come in and go like did hold your shit man you ruining it for all of us. That's the only reason she don't wreck it for the rest of US functioning alcock just kidding and Bloomberg News. Put out a story this week. Saying Singapore accounts reveal a payment to help secure Kurdish deals and that Rosneft paid two hundred and fifty million dollars to an external consultant to help. Secure those deals. The fee was linked to deals. That helped Rosneft become the dominant foreign player in the Kurdish oil industry in the process. This true Russia deeper into Iraq just as Putin with seeking to bolster the Kremlin's position in the Middle East. The two hundred and fifty million dollars was paid over two years by Rosneft Swift subsidiary Swiss not swift swift Swiss Rosneft trading the same subsidiary the US imposed sanctions on last month by the way the fee was disclosed a few weeks ago in the financial statements of a Singaporean subsidiary created by Rosneft as a holding company for its investments in Kurdistan and. Singaporean is interesting. Because if you remember Katie McFarland. When she was taken out as Flynn's number two and she was a bud McFarlane like protege all about putting nuclear reactors in the Middle East. She was appointed the ambassador to Singapore and Singapore was one of the foreign ambassadors. That was at that Kislyak meeting. That shouldn't have been The consultant wasn't named. But I can't help but wonder if this this is the mystery company from Country A. We've been chasing for almost three years on the podcast We'll keep you posted on that. It's just A. It's just interesting that that point five percent commission was paid to an unknown entity from a Singaporean subsidiary created by Rosneft to bolster its oil investments in Kurdistan Yep and this week we know. A federal appeals court dismissed. The House Judiciary is case for a subpoena for Don mcgann. Saying that it's not the courts job to play referee between the Executive and legislative branch. Except that's totally the fucking court jobs as expected and I think we put beans on this. The House has filed to have the case reheard and bunk which we discussed with Glenn Kirschner in the interview last week and bunk means all eleven judges will rehear the case and make the call Four or Republican appointees it is heavily democratically filled court of appeals in DC I think Merrick Garland in charge. I believe that on the merits. The House will win this one. On the merits which would mean the trump administration will likely file for an appeal with the Supreme Court. And when I say on the merits when the appeals court just this past week. dismissed the case in a two to one ruling. They didn't do it on the merits they didn't say that the house doesn't they didn't go. The house doesn't have the right to do this. They said is that the courts aren't shouldn't be making these decisions so it was a jurisdictional dismissal but if they listened to it and hear it on the merits a guarantee. The House is going to win this one. But again it'll just be appealed up to Scotus so look for that likely appeal With the Supreme Court and life and probably a stay We'll continue to follow this case and keep you posted. So that's what's going on with the Don mcgann testimony is going to go on into next year and I hope drag and I hope that the new Senate and the new Congress still just continue to pursue these Investigations you need to get Don mcgann in there. Because if he has any new information that we didn't get out of the mold report that's significant to flip the Senate everyone just about the president. Yeah antea tries out? And then we can investigate him criminally and the House says that they will if there's new information that Don has. They've sat in one of their filings. We'll we'll open up a new you know. We'll we'll find more impeachment articles of impeachment to double steph impeachment. What's the full? What's the One? That's like mega staff or like Orios out. They just keep making new ones so there was this all stuff where it's just like one cookie but it's like. I just don't know about this but I'm curious one thing I will say about moving here. Canada's fairly similar in a lot of ways it's not like I moved here from somewhere that's like massively different candidate in the UK very similar countries. However when I first moved here I was like Holy Shit. There's like ten million more options for junk food. Yeah I was just. I was reading your mind. I was GONNA say the cookies and cereal options. I mean it's nuts yogurt. It's everything I'm used to having like a couple of options you but when I moved here I was like. Oh My fucking God. There's like nine more flavors of Oreo. I lost my mind. Yes in the grocery stores. Themselves are just incredibly large warehouses to account for set options in a grocery store myself. I'll be there for our shopping. You're hungry anyway. Sorry you're talking about something important and I was like I was done. I was onto oreos. So you know that wasn't appropriate track for that comes to bring much needed political commentary to the show you do. I appreciate you We'll be right back with hotton sabotage and the fantasy indictment leaks. Stay with us. Hey everybody has ag one thing. I've realized doing research for me. She wrote is the deeper. You dig the more layers you uncover. And that's what I love about. 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Yeah it's especially with that song that's all he ever wanted but it will come through. Yeah but he's over the last couple of years. Yeah I guess. He's been recruiting spies from Britain in the US. And this is for intelligence gathering operations that were specifically seeking to infiltrate Democratic congressional campaigns Labor organizations and other groups that are not fans or good for trump Fans or good for trump so for example one of the former spies. He's an Xm. I six officer is named Richard Seddon. Se D. O. N. Seddon He held rented a two thousand seventeen operation to copy files and film in record conversations in Michigan's Office of the American Federation of Teachers. This is a pretty big teacher's Union or one of them in the nation so they were looking for info that was gonNA that they could release to the public would be damaging to them so it shit like that where they're literally just recording people The then the next year the same guy infiltrated the campaign of Democrat Abigail Span Burger And all these operations they ran by this group. Called Project Veritas. Which is a conservative group. That's known for spying specifically on news orbs democratic politicians in the advocacy groups. And yet. It's a it sounds pretty like old school spy. Shit literally. Just hidden cameras and microphones and all of this information is coming out now as a result of the discovery process in a court case. That's between that Teacher's Union and project. Veritas you know then basically saying hey not okay nat chill and we'll we're just hopefully going to get more and more information about prince how he's been connected to this all There's nothing that's been. Explicitly tying trump and his desires to the operations of this group but the trump foundation did give twenty thousand dollars to the group in two thousand fifteen and he brought up footage at a debate once that the group allegedly got as dirt on Obama and Hillary so that is so fascinating. Watergate was right Bugging and recording inside the Democratic National Headquarters in the Watergate Hotel. That's what this is. Yeah it would It would appear that it's incredibly not okay Right unless you're the FBI. Our intelligence agency. I don't think you're allowed to just do that. No sooner this you could call this our Watergate. Precisely what it was. Yeah but for unions. Yeah Yeah and then like smaller groups I guess instead of something is huge as DNC. But I I mean who knows what's going to be uncovered about their activities of the stuff is coming out right now. This is the first. I'm hearing of this same. Also make sense though that. That's exclusively kind of the worker. Prince does being a security official. He's the one that tried to like private. Is the war in Afghanistan by suggesting they do private contractors and said troops and so he did he did have blackwater. Yeah and so. He's like a huge part of you. Know the trump mindset which is privatize the military and intelligence industry. And let's take away all institutional knowledge because echoes grant and Eric Prince. A sister Betsy Devos. The Education Secretary is all about privatizing education. Horrible Sibling Group. Yeah I wonder what Thanksgiving was Prince House. God Yeah what do they play? They play monopoly. Yes seriously. They like added their own pieces or something like the Mediterranean and Boardwalk and park place. It's like the prison system. The railroad education system got four bet. He's got the schools. I've got the military. Who Else in their family? And what are they doing? Yeah who raised these people disassociate when you think about all the evil in the world? Oh same yeah yes yes I do. I think that's what our entire podcast is does. But it is just. It's crazy about our secondary name was dissociation. Name is like this is too much love zone out cheeses and watch. Tv A politically engaged. Everyone it's really important. Yes but sometimes if you need to disassociate any cheese that's also okay. Yeah Good Morning Yes in the sleeve of salt teams in Carlito's way. Thank thank you pass and this is just something that I read in the article that I think is a fun fact. One of the operatives that they used in one of their spying missions was a graduate of Liberty University job. It's just no longer isn't it? It's like the Christian is a huge massively. Like follow junior funded joint. Yeah it's run by a pool boys. Yeah but it's just there and this is Liberty University. That's the one who ironically Eric. Princes sister right wasn't heard that was like or no was not her. No it wasn't her. It was It was the basically not not collecting fees in student. Loan debt from people that had a tone that was Private for profit universities. That wasn't liberty I don't think so There's probably right. They would have mentioned that in the article. Probably if that connection existed yeah I was just trump university that you're thinking Oh had to pay twenty five million dollars settlement four and paid Pam Bondi off twenty five thousand dollars to not investigate. Yes who came? Then his impeachment lawyer one of them. Cou Cou Cou. I'm GonNa find the story that I was thinking of. I correct myself later in the show. That's okay okay. So my heart note this week. We got a huge dump of Muller Three. Oh to those are FBI interviews notes about FBI interviews in the Buzzfeed Foia Lawsuit Jordan UN over a lot of these a lot of what was in that on Fridays daily beans and included a long sought after Kushner interview which came out though is still heavily redacted as we know and we will discuss in the interview later in the show bill. Bars credibility is under scrutiny. By a couple of federal judges who have asked to review the entire unredacted Muller report and a memo of a discussion between trump. Nsa Chief Mike Trump and NSA chief. Mike Rogers and camera. We also know Chris Steele is taking issue with the scope of the Miller report. And we don't yet know how much of what he says. Missing might be under those black boxes. We don't know yet but there was one three two in the pile of six hundred pages that got released this week that I wanted to go over. And that's former ambassador. Richard BIRT's executed proffer agreement with the. Fbi This is a previously unknown proffered deal until this week. According to his proffer agreement Russian banker petr given a billionaire. Oligarch with Alpha-bank told Burt that Putin himself wanted to communications channel open between the Kremlin and the trump transition team then oven and that outreach From Alvin to ambassador. Burt is the only publicly known Instance where Putin was personally involved in directing the Russian interference on behalf of the trump campaign. If you all remember alpha-bank where often worked was involved in a surge of mystery traffic Internet traffic to a server in trump tower in two thousand sixteen as we have reported computer analysts concluded that alpha-bank had developed a clandestine backchannel to the trump organization using alphabet server in trump tower. Burt who was the ambassador to West? Germany under Reagan. Help develop key points for an important foreign policy speech for trump that he delivered in April. Two thousand sixteen with Kislyak and attendance and Bert had dinner with Jeff Sessions. According to Muller to discuss policy positions BURTT also aided Russia with plans for a gas pipeline and he sits on the board of a Luxembourg company founded by Petr often of alpha-bank and twenty thirteen. It's currently investing billions of dollars in the American healthcare industry Opening the back channel for Putin often in a tough place because he could face sanctions over it. But you you can't. You don't go against Putin. So burr took Auburn's idea to symes and asked him to arrange a meeting with Kushner. That's where that whole symes meeting with. Kushner thing kept happening over and over again. The mole reporting was brought up hundreds of times in the Miller report. So now we have a mystery witness set to testify next month in the Concord Management Case. We have a Kushner three zero two that's mostly redacted. Still we have to. Judge is questioning the credibility of bill bar and main justices reductions in three. Oh twos and the Miller report. We have Chris Steele telling Oxford Oxford University. There's a lot of Shit missing from the Muller report in its current form and of course we have the mystery. Company from country a. The alpha-bank server communications after revelations of Putin himself wanting to set up a back channel and the two hundred and fifty dollar fifty million dollar payout two Kurdish interest after. Sell off of Rosneft so it appears we're getting closer to the full picture here and we'll be following what these judges have to say about the appropriateness of what bill bars been reacting. But what's under those black boxes is going to be extremely important in. Reggie Walton is taken no shit Love Him I'm very excited so of this stuff. We've been tracking and I was just GonNa say it's good for us to be back in the news. Yeah Yeah exactly when you can change name your stupid punk always relevant people have stopped asking me that question because it so abundantly clear. The answers never they continue forever. Yeah we are audiences as big ever and not leaving unless y'all do we'll end. These people aren't stopping cramming so they're still committing crimes now that I'm sure will be investigated later. But even the should. They've already done as demonstrated here takes forever to get to the bottom of. Yeah it does it takes awhile. Yeah as evidenced yes Really quick correction to my Liberty University's mix up it's Carinthian colleges now. Those are the names of the ones that close. I was thinking Apollo Group but it was one of those for profit. Yes but it. Was BETSY DEVOS. That was like getting threatened. Kind of to be trouble for still collect trying to collect those debts. Yeah the judge was like I'll put you in fucking jail. Get Your Shit together. Stop doing this She had to pay a fine Not personally but you know out of the Department of Education but Liberty University is alive and well and the career trajectory is apparently right into sketchy people's toes by companies. They have a whole class. They have like a major focus is on that get into Erik Prince's Spoiled by jobs. Internships I swear that's why they'd created that university is to establish a connection probably just between first off profiting a bunch of money and then people that have a bunch of money and want certain political ends either that or they were looking around like. There's no lawyers. That are that want to do our. Should he shit John? We need to make a university so we can get lawyers. That will represent us in these fucking that Greek dude that setup schools and shit was at socrates or Plato. One of yeah. It wasn't a one of them and they just sat on some Greek. Nude Romeo whatever dust in the wind and then yeah. I should definitely know this considering way degree. Yeah there's some sort of philosophy throughout their who's like jarred. Oh Yeah No. I studied political theory specifically which largely. Okay Nice I think it might have been. They have their their pretentious hill of free thinkers. Not Although I think you know one one B get the other one. Another taught another socrates. There's I don't know which came first. Socrates was Plato's teacher. Think Plato Aristotle Teacher. I think that's the you know what you'll send us a correction not truly will. Then you're right. I think socrates was the father of the school. Yeah because like the socratic method in everything. I would assume that was named because he was like the teacher. Yes yes aren't teaching each other aren't we also didn't he die from hemlock poisoning Yeah he killed himself. Yeah oh or I should say. He died by suicide. It was a conspiracy and I think that Cunanan looking into it right now. Yeah because that's how relevant is. Well they were like you can stop teaching people and you can stop filling the minds of the youth with this three thinking poison or you can drink literal poison. He was like okay but are pointing to the second one hem libraries. Your that's out went. I think so For the story but I believe you. I haven't I haven't read that story. God Twenty Twenty five years. Now there's like depictions of him like yes deathbed surrounded by all of his lovers not sexually but like great pillars and whatnot. Yes grape peelers. The that feed you grapes now. I think these were like his brain disciples. Socrates is brain disciple Iraq. Kids I call them. My brain decide on Netflix. Already ready for sabotage. Yes okay so remember Robert Hyde creepy dude running for Congress in Connecticut over the objections of the GOP. That texted back and forth with Parnasse about Marie Ivanovich whereabouts well. He's picked up five new complaints for stocking making nine. Total charges for abusing it. Protective Order in criminal harassment in the new charges hide sent disparaging emails to his victims clans and her husband. Decoy email addresses threatening to expose his affair with the woman. Hide will return to court April fifteenth when prosecutors will make another request to revoke his bail while the judge reviews the new evidence. So that's what the prosecutors are. Trending is bail revoked. Saying he's he's got five more complaints since he's been out on bail. You need to revoke his belt so with that in mind. Are you ready to play fantasy. Indictment Yes oh it is gonNA be clinic. Dick can't it's GONNA be okay jus- calmed down? Okay I get to go first this time. So I'm GonNa go and say Nice Sex fucked unhinged becky dude. Yeah I think he belongs in the none Berg Circle of people. Yeah the critically you know the totally a Wantagh like those folks Okay I'm going going is. I'm an essay Rudy oh Tom Bay Eric. One day off we switched last week. I thought it was gonNA work for sure. I'll take superseding. Parnassus I'M GONNA say Prints Eric Prints. Yeah because I don't understand that Shit's okay me. Neither Shit Okay Yeah And then I'll go superseding firm and I will do am I. Yeah how are you like allowed to spy like in a private but I guess like private eyes or whatever those people function like when you hire someone to catch would cheating on you or something. Yeah because this. It can't Break into the Democratic groups. Yeah I guess that dealership. That's what they're settling Then I'll go superseding Korea Z. O. R. R. E. A. Think I'LL DO PECKER wrecker? Already you got pecker. Angela's Lynn Dick Jokes in your family. All right we have a great interview coming up next to talk. We're GONNA talk about all the stuff that's going on in the mcgann case Upcoming things and then you know some of the other interesting muller decisions that are coming down the pike with Renato Mariotti hosted the on topic. Podcast right after this stay round. Hey everybody's AG. And I wanted to tell you about a couple of podcast. I think you should check out. I there's awful neutral podcast this is a DND roleplaying. We also do call blue and kids on bikes which is based on stranger things just a fun role playing podcast about seven or eight. Comedians That participate in this Jordan I know you're GONNA go play a non player role or something and pg non player character really some NBC today. And it's it's just a lot of a lot of Improv and his role playing in. It's it's a nice break from from politics looking for something like that and Jordan. Your pods coming out soon. Yes yes we are. I'm pretty sure launching this week. It's called I disagree and myself. And MY CO host Steve. We talk to people about topics that we disagree on. And we're all comics so you know it's still the laugh. 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So now we'll be going back to this podcast In three to one so joining us for the interview today as former federal prosecutors CNN legal analyst and host of one of my favorite podcasts has called on topic. It's our friend Renato Mariotti. We're not a welcome back to Moeletsi route. How are you know great? Always glad to be back on muller she wrong we are so happy to have you and Because you help so much with like the legal analysis of so many different things that are coming out I remember you were at our Chicago. Show live You know the day that bar excuse me the day that I think Nadler filed for the underlying muller documents With the court so this is alike. This is along those lines so I wanted to give you a call like memories. I had were not memory. Sue just this week. Judge Judge Reggie Walton. Who's a Bush appointee? Which normally I wouldn't bring up a normally doesn't matter until trump got here but it Reggie Walton ordered the Department of Justice to hand over the fully unredacted Muller report citing bars rollout of the Miller report suspicious thereby questioning bars credibility. And so I was thinking I mean those are really strong words from a from a sitting judge about the sitting attorney general and I was wondering what your top line reaction to the ruling was. Yeah I would. I was surprised I wasn't I one hundred percent with the judges conclusions and frankly I think anybody who is a thinking person who's looking at bars letter for example that he wrote that supposedly was summarizing. Muller report I think it's hard not to see that he was being deceptive after all if you'd literally cut off sentences you know quotes mid sentence he would quote like portions of the. Muller said and it would be very highly misleading. Clear that he was deliberately misleading the book. And but it's really something for judge to say that I mean essentially what what Judge Walton was saying. Is You know we you are you. The government are asking us to trust you when it comes to these these foyer right actions. I don't trust you because you know showed that. He had a lack of credibility throughout this entire process. Then you may believe I believe but to hear a federal judge is really something and in parallel. You know as this ruling is coming out. We have we get another six hundred. Page dump from the buzzfeed. Jason Leopold Foia Request on the Muller member memos which of course are highly redacted. And so I think that it's and I remember. Judge Walton saying early on these reactions had better be on the up and up or I will go through each one of them to determine their you know their appropriateness and so I wonder if that sort of where he's heading with this. What do you think about that? Yeah I think he's essentially they're asking think he wants to see what they call it in camera in other words I think the judge wants to review the underlying unredacted documents himself. He's GonNa go through and he's going to see if the right actions are appropriate and that is unusual. I mean look anyone who's ever foy at something we'll tell you. The usually you get back are few pages fold with Black Black Marker Through them redacting and you know then You know A statement a letter. That says that there's a whole bunch of other documents that are being without. They fit within exceptions foyer. A very important tool journalists use it but the fact of the matter is that the exceptions often are so large they swallow up the rule and agencies have every incentive to aggressively interpret those Those exceptions and essentially you know what he's saying. Is You know the Justice Department released a statement saying hey far wasn't behind the right actions. It was career employees who did him. And what essentially The judges saying look because of the bars action. It really hurt the credibility of the entire department. I can't trust you going forward and I also think you judge Walden You know deter reverent and other friend of of Muller she wrote Andrew McCabe Judge Walton was involved in a prior suit bobbing Foia Foia request or mccade documents and he expressed serious concerns about the prosecution. Saying well it's like a Banana Republic the way that that would be undertaken. And of course he's a former federal federal prosecutor himself. I think he views it through a lens. That's that's very informed. I think from his perspective is concerned about what's going on at the J. Yeah that's right. Judge Walton as you pointed out was the judge who gave an ultimatum to the Department of Justice that they need to defy fish or cut bait. They had to either charge. Mccabe closed the case or release. These documents the you know the firing documents that that were in the in the foyer case. So he He seemed to have not a lot of patients. For what's been going on over at the DOJ and you you you you said the DOJ has responded to this suit but I read their response and it doesn't seem they don't seem to be defending bars. Roll out of the Miller report more. They seem to be jumping ahead and defending bar and the department's reductions which seems to be kind of putting the cart before the horse. Like assuming what's what's next you know what I'm saying. It just seemed like a really weird like they were DEF- defending a different case. It seemed that didn't make sense. It didn't seem Coherent to me well strategically. I actually think if I was in their shoes. That might be the right thing to do because it may very well be that the foyer reductions are Defensible in other words. You know they say that career people handled that very well may be the truth. I don't know but it's hard to defend when you get into the weeds specifics. What bar did so if you read the statement? They have like one line where they say. It wasn't true we defend. You know that you know Y You know what essentially that. It wasn't true what he said about Bars roll out. But it's just a flat. Denial and that's what you say as a lawyer. I'll tell you when. Somebody's just a flat. Denial they don't get into the weeds in kind of explain. Why something's wrong this that that they can mean that there's just you know I it it. It's problematic when you get into the weeds. And that's what I think the issue here you know if if I was cross examining Attorney General Bar. I think five minutes you know. Be Very hard for him to explain. Why he you know selectively quoted from the document and so on. Yeah yeah and he had a hard time explaining that to Congress as well So we'll see how we'll see how that rolls out but It just for like a little bit of illegal breakdown here. We're this is a foia lawsuit. Were in the district court. What are the next steps? I assume the Department of Justice will appeal Walton's ruling and then do we go through the dance where we go to the appeals court and then possible hearing and bank and then Skoda's is that is that the progression that we're probably looking at. It's possible but I think it's it's also I think it's more likely I think it's also possible and out without knowing the details of their reactions because I can't no one none of us publicly so I think it's likely that they're just gonNA. I think it's likely that they're just going to hand over the documents And and if if what they said is true. I mean after all this public statement in which they said they. Career staff handled this without any real importer direct involvement from bar. If that's true which it better be true because down in a public statement now after being called up by the judge you know. Doj say fine. Take a look at it and you know I. If what they're saying is true then that will put an end to all right. The judge will look at it. He'll compare the redaction baby. I mean I'm sure he'll have some changes you'll say you know there's certain forces them. He disagrees with. But then that's it you know then the public will see whatever the judge comes up with an we'll be done with it. That would be in my view. The savvy way of handling this is long as you're up. What you're saying is on the up and up now if they are trying to redact something that they shouldn't be that they really don't want the public to find out about well then they are going to have to try to appeal this fight it and that could be a long process and it may not work well for them. It will draw more attention to this so you know I think the judges you know the judge's comments are you know are within the realm of things that a judge can do. Which is you know. He's he's taking a close look at it. I could see the DC circuit potentially although it is skewed with more with democratically appointed nominees. It's certainly possible that they could take a different view on this. So you know it's possible could work for the G. O. J. But I think the the the more prudent approach with potentially just beata and this to To the judge and let him take a look at it. Yeah sure then like you said if everything's on the up and up and if it's not I would be. I would assume that then their number one priority is to delay this past November which could easily be done through. A series of appeals correct. I think that's exactly right but I want to caution our listeners not to feel like just because the DOJ appeals. This means that they're reductions. Aren't on the up and up. I don't think that that would necessarily be correlation that you could just assume I think that's right. It could be that they are. They WanNa Vindicate Bars Reputation or they they wanNA show judges that you can't just push them around But I have to say if this was not politically charged I think they would do. And they're really on the UP. They would do what I suggest it. 'cause it's just a simple thing to do don't forget the Justice Department typically is looking past the current case. And they're thinking about the future they're going to be half cases in front of Judge Walton for years to come so you want to show him. I think demonstrate the end that the Justice Grubman is acting with credibility. Yeah I don't know. Sometimes I question that they're actually of caring about what happens in the future but I don't Wanna I don't WanNa put any undue opinions on On what may or may not be real so anyway. Thank you so much for answering those questions for us. We'll keep looking for this This ruling and and and how the DOJ react to it I really appreciate your input. Everybody please check out the on topic. 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Former Prosecutor: Trump scared of explosive Mueller testimony

The Beat with Ari Melber

44:25 min | 1 year ago

Former Prosecutor: Trump scared of explosive Mueller testimony

"I am Chris Johnson tonight for Ari covering a lot of developing stories calls for impeachment hit the Senate floor will show you Senator Warren's fiery speech, plus President Trump reportedly stewing for days over Bob Muller testifying and to Trump inaugural. Organizers says the White House through her under the bus, President Obama's inaugural chair joins us, but we begin tonight just hours away from House Democrats vote on whether to hold attorney general Bill bar in contempt of congress for refusing to hand over the full unredacted Muller report judiciary chair Jerry Nadler staff sitting down with bars team briefly this afternoon trying to work out last-minute compromise. But that meeting lasted only thirty minutes and just moments ago, Nadler said, the contempt vote is still scheduled bar would be only the second attorney general ever held in contempt and Democrats also reportedly considering a contempt vote against former White House counsel, Don Mcgann after. He refused today to comply with a request for documents. The White House saying Mcgann does not have the legal right to disclose these documents and arguing that Democrats should have asked the White House for them. Instead while the standoff raises the possibility that they'd invoked executive privilege and then as if that's not enough. There's a third fight looming after Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin who was at the White House today refused to turn over Trump's tax return saying they cannot lawfully fulfill the committee's request even though the law clearly allows congress to request anyone's tax returns. And in the midst of all of this Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, telling Democrats to move on. You had on this central question. The special counsel finding is clear case closed. Case closed. Well, democratic leaders firing back that the case is still open. It's kind of his report it to the same doesn't matter here for my mother case closed case clothes now. Thanks. Just as an observation. That's just not a fact that case is not closed leader says let's move on. It's sort of like Richard Nixon saying let's move on at the height of the investigation of his wrongdoing. Of course, he wants to move on. He wants to cover up and while democratic leaders are careful to avoid calling for impeachment those calls and getting louder in some parts of the party, including from presidential candidate. Elizabeth Warren who made her argument today on the Senate floor. We took the oath not to try to protect Donald Trump. We took an oath to protect the Khan and serve the constitution of the United States of America. And the way we do that is we begin impeachment proceedings now against this president. With me with a lot to talk about former US attorney Joyce Vance. Former federal prosecutor Paul Butler and New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg. This is an extraordinary series of simultaneous showdowns between the executive branch and the legislative branch the White House resisting on multiple fronts, but tomorrow, there will be that contempt vote it almost certainly will pass then head to the full house. So Joyce is what we're witnessing here. No less than a possible. I dunno redefinition of the separation of powers are we in the middle of a super stress test of this entire system. I think that's exactly right. Chris. We're watching a situation where the traditional view that we have three Coequal branches of government that view that the founding fathers used to create our constitution. We're moving forward into an era where that may not be held. This government is configured going forward. We have an attorney general who is on record as having a very. Expansive view of executive power. He now seems to be driving that truck a little bit along with the president who has autocrat tendencies, and what will have to look for very carefully in the next days and weeks is whether the institutions are strong enough to hold whether the courts and the legislative branch can stand up to a runaway executive and we're seeing some of the nervousness from the White House. Trump clearly nervous about Muller testifying than you. Add to that, Don Mcgann. I mean Mcgann knows a lot and the judiciary committee is asking for White House documents and notes on discussions about Michael Flynn, James Komi, Jeff Sessions. Bob Muller, Paul Manafort, the Trump Tower meeting and Michael cone, and then in a letter to the white in a letter, the White House counsel said look if you want this stuff talk to us the White House, not Mcgann Paul what was that about? So what the White House is saying is that if the documents are gonna come from somebody they just kind of loan them to Mcgann, so should give them back. Then. The White House worked out this situation, they're claiming executive privilege, or at least they say at some point we might claim executive privilege, the problem with that is that the president has talked so much about these issues. But he's probably waved at the whole purpose of executive privilege is for the president to be able to talk to his advisers have private conversations. But if this information becomes public than the privileged, no longer applies. So again when the president allow the redacted mother report to go public without objecting. He had the opportunity to object executive privileges gone. But it'll go to court that's how the congress and the president will resolve this not resolve it. They'll let a judge resolve that could take months strategy is to run out the clock until the twenty twenty election, right? What if the game wants to talk? I mean, he's in private practice. Now, he could also be held in contempt essentially doing what the White House wants him to do. And then like who pays his legal bills? There's all kinds of questions, but if Don Mcgann wants to go before congress, can he he can he could absolutely be a tree patriot go in front of congress testify provide documents. But we've seen indications that he won't shortly after the White House released its demand that congress negotiate with it and not with Mcgann his lawyer released a statement indicating that he was caught between the president and the congress and that for now he would follow the White House's wishes. So it's a little bit early to pin. Our hopes on Don Mcgann standing up and having a country over party moment. Yeah. And I guess a problem for for Democrats right now, Michelle is if the witnesses either can't talk or won't talk where does that leave them? What do you see happening? I don't I don't. I don't I don't think it's just a problem for Democrats. It's a problem for the country. Right. Where you have this crisis that you have this executive branch that is just flatly refusing to comply with the law flatly ignoring subpoenas in Steve nuke case the law is clear, and he simply saying that he's not going to obey it and try to make me. Right. And so the next step is. Yes, they hold them in contempt. But who in cool enforces, a criminal contempt citation, but our Justice department, right? So that's not going to happen. You know, then they can do a civil contempt citation. They're going to go to court alternately, a lot of this stuff is going to be advocated adjudicated by the supreme court where Donald Trump's nominees had Donald Trump has been able to put people on the supreme court not just towards sort of far right Republican, but are known for their expansive view of presidential power and executive privilege. And so it's like all the guardrails that were supposed to keep the system imbalance that we're supposed to make sure that. Autocratic. President couldn't run roughshod over our system of government are failing and it's kind of up to congress to assert itself to use whatever levers it confined to push back against the argument. That was with warm was making it. I mean, I think she was one hundred percent, right. You know? And I think that I understand why Democrats have wanted to avoid impeachment because they feel like the time is running out on this presidency. Anyway, and they see the polls that show that it's popular, and they don't really want to lead the country in making the case for it. But ultimately, there is only one legal process to deal with an administration like this. And even if it doesn't ultimately lead to his removal, it's the system by which you compel all of this information to become public. Well, she mentioned Steve Mnuchin the Treasury Secretary. And he's like, you know, you have no right to these tax returns Donald Trump's tax returns. Specifically what he wrote? Is that their request lacks a legitimate legislative purpose, I suppose, that's he's decided that he's going to make that decision about what's a legitimate legislative purpose and amounts to exposure for the sake of exposure. So what happens here? So again, it's the tragedy secretaries argument is just flat out wrong on a legal basis. The law is very clear. The Treasury Secretary really the IRS commission must hand over tax returns to the chairperson of the House Ways and means committee, so that he doesn't have a legal lake to spin on once again, he'll take it to the courts, it'll be a Long John L preceding, ultimately, congress will prevail. But you know, the expression Justice denied is just as delay. Trump is all about delay delay delay. What are the top Democrats? Joyce on the on the ways and means committee said it's unprecedented. That Mnuchin is refusing what? He called a lawful. Request. And quote, if these guys think they can outlast us with these tactics. They're dead wrong. We're not going anywhere. But how long could this take? And we mentioned this before is this just a tactic to try to run out the clock until twenty twenty. This is why I think what Michelle says is so accurate and in many ways, so frightening. We have to rely on the courts to hold firm here. And there's a precedent for the courts to expedite a process like this meeting case along through the different levels of appeal. So it can reach the supreme court for a prompt decision. We don't have any way of knowing if that will happen here. And it's possible that the president could delay this. Although that delay could perhaps boomerang on him. If the case is decided in the heat of an election, and all of a sudden Trump's tax returns or revealed, Paul is absolutely right. When he says the law here isn't even a close call the chair. Men of the house and ways committee is entitled to these tax returns. The IRS nor the Treasury Secretary has the right to look behind the legitimacy of their request and their abundant reasons that the commission needs them legitimately. They shouldn't be turned over forthwith. And this is just another example of the crisis. This presidency is creating well, let's talk a little bit more about this. Because it was just reported today while we're having this standoff over the federal income tax returns on New York state. Lawmakers are expected to advance a Bill that would at least allow congressional committees to see the state tax returns, we know that there are a whole bunch of different ways that that people are trying to get into various parts of this investigation. But I want to go back to what you said earlier Michelle, which is that a lot of Democrats out their rank and file Democrats who have only one requirement for twenty twenty that is to beat Donald Trump believe that all of this activity is at cross purposes. I mean, frankly, I think they're wrong. And I think that part of the an I also think it's a mistake for democratic leaders to take their cues from the polls. Right. I mean, I think that one of the reasons that Democrats might believe this activity across purposes is because they're leaders aren't they're out there making the case for why this is necessary. I think look at what happened to Hello there. In fact, holding back for four reasons that they're concerned that what the voters really want is. They want to hear about the economy. They wanna hear about healthcare. They want to hear about this. But the fact is that Democrats aren't going to make progress on any of those issues legislatively under this president either. Right. That's as much of a fantasy as the fantasy that the Senate is going to vote to remove the president. And so I mean, look at how much the Benghazi investigation, which was you know? Pre which was completely absurd, but which dragged on forever and never sort of had the support of the American people. But ultimately revealed this nugget about Hillary Clinton's emails that did immense damage to her. I just don't under Donald Trump's approval ratings are already pretty low, you know, having months of televised hearings laying out this kind of epic corruption. Even just the corruption documented in the Muller reported self which has over one hundred pages on his on the various meetings with Russia between members of his campaign, staff and members of his family. I just I can I I understand the risk aversion because I understand how crucial this election is in two thousand twenty but it is very hard to make the case. I think to the American people that on the one hand Donald Trump is an autocratic out of control president who has committed impeachable offenses. And nevertheless, we are not going to impeach him quick last question, Paul any of this. That is all. All in folding, simultaneously UC eventually ending up at the supreme court. So I think are interesting questions with regard to executive privilege again. I don't think the tax issue is a hard case. It's clear that Trump dress treasury department needs to federal courts have in the past said that there are limits on congressional oversight their limits. But again, this law itself is very clear, and what they're saying what congress is saying is that they need the tax returns in order to make sure that the president's returns are being audited properly underlaw the president the vice president their tax returns are autumn medically audited. They're no reason to have any good faith about whether that's happening with regard to Trump. It's the congress responsibility to do checks and balances, and so that's why they need the returns Paul Butler. Michelle Goldberg, thank you. Joyce fans. You're going to stay with me one programming note. Senator Elizabeth Warren. We'll join Chris Hayes tonight on all in eight PM eastern right here on MSNBC and coming up. New reporting on why President Trump doesn't want. Bob Muller to testify also speaker Pelosi and Democrats debate the I word how will impeachment actually affect the twenty twenty presidential race. And a former aide to Malania Trump said she was thrown under the bus with those investigations into the Trump inauguration all that plus a major milestone for comedian Dave Chapelle, I'm Chris chancing in for Ari Melber. You're watching the beat on MSNBC. Hi, it's Katy Tur want to keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go subscribe to the MSN BC daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed or in this unprecedented. Era of news, text MSNBC, two six six eight six six to subscribe. Tonight. We're learning just how worried Trump is about Muller testifying before congress sources telling the Associated Press that Trump has stood for days about media coverage that would be given to Muller White House. Officials worry his gravitas would add weight to some of the politically damaging and embarrassing material about Trump and New York Times reporter, Maggie Haberman reporting. That Trump wasn't just popping off when he tweeted Muller shouldn't testify, but in fact for days before the tweets he'd expressed desire to keep Muller from testifying. That's quite an about face from this. I don't know that's up to attorney general who I think is done a fantastic job. Now, he's saying no, well, here's where things stand. Tonight Muller has tentatively agreed to testify in eight days on may fifteenth. It will be the first time the American public will hear directly from Muller and Trump's allies in congress are fair sleep trying to protect him. Here's Mitch McConnell today. Echoing Senator Graham. Why not call for Muller to testify because I'm not going to do any more enough already is over special counsel. Finding is clear case closed. Case closed. But as we've seen today the case is far from closed, and by the way, just this is new video, that's Robert Muller leaving dinner last night in Georgetown as negotiations for a possible congressional appearance continue joining me now former federal prosecutor Jean Rossi. So gene as a prosecutor if there is so much concern about someone testifying that you're doing and saying everything you possibly can to keep it from happening. What does that tell you? He is scared. And if I were President Trump, I would be scared. This could be John deed. Only John dean wasn't the prosecutor in all the trials. I had. I was always amazed absolutely amazed at what a witness says in prep sessions versus how they come across in front of audience, especially if it's a packed room. Of course, this will be a Senate or house committee hearing room. And Donald Trump is a media master. He ran the apprentice he knows if Robert Muller who is respected by a lot of people, including me, if he testifies in ads nuance meat and description to the footnotes the sentences the phraseology in that report. Donald Trump knows that that could be extremely explosive. And here's what it will cause the American people to do they will then read the report, I think there was a poll out the five percent ten percent of the American public has not even read the only read the report. The other ninety percent has not people are going to read that report. And if you read that report volume one at especially volume to you conclude one thing this is not how the president of the United States should act Lenka. Why? Thank Muller testifying because let's remember that that Trump completely said time and time again that this report totally exonerated him. But I think to your point there's there's sort of another nuance that the AP story points out Trump has logged known the power of televised images and feared that Americans would captivated by seeing. And hearing Muller who has not spoken publicly since being named special counsel. He was virtually a ghost during the entire time of this investigation at wonder, and this is something else that that the AP article race is Trump worried about a repeat of Michael Collins testimony back in February. I mean, do you think that that would be comparable so many people watching so many people finding that witness credible? Absolutely. Chris this could be Michael Cohen two times three because Michael Cohen, we all know head. Had had problems. Okay. Putting it mildly. He pleaded guilty to perjury line and tax fraud. And then some people say he continued that line before the committee, but also Donald Trump remembers, Dr Christie, Christine Blasi Ford, and after her testimony, Greg Kavanagh's nomination was hanging in the balance. And so he knows the power of live television. And how that can impact the poll numbers and perceptions of the American people, and he's afraid that it possibly could be a game changer, and his this is the other point Chris. He's put out a narrative. No collusion. No obstruction. If Robert Muller testifies, you can guarantee he's going to shoot the no collusion and the no obstruction Canard's and put two holes in their heads. So. Does he just said if he testifies I mean, the thing is at least right now Muller still works for the Justice department and Bill bars is boss, he can say you can't testify. I mean, so you've got Bill Barr who can say you can't testify. He's facing contempt charges from congressional Democrats who are the ones who want to hear from Muller. I don't know is that a little bit of a conflict there. Well, here's the thing. Chris you could have a congressional subpoena issued for the testimony of Robert Muller, and the congress rightly could argue that executive privilege is Trump for several reasons. One is the easy one. There's a waiver and that one is a slam dunk in my view to the crime fraud exception. He's investigating what he may believe Bobby Muller is conduct that takes outside of the privilege. And the third reason is the privilege is qualified. If there's. A public interest that is greater than the president's knee for confidential communications congress wins and the public wins. Well, it will be fascinating to see. And I think that there is a parallel with the way. This testimony will be watched with John dean, which was I remember vividly. I was in high school, I do to Jane Rossi. Thank you so much coming up. The list is ballooning over seven hundred. Former federal prosecutors now say Trump committed crimes based off the Muller report and Senator warns call to impeach Trump is sparking a big debate inside the Democratic Party that when we're back in thirty seconds. Today. Senator Elizabeth Warren, delivering a blistering speech attacking Donald Trump's war on the law and for the first time on the Senate floor. She went there on impeachment. If any other human being in this country had done what's documented in the Muller report. They would be arrested and put in jail. This is not about politics. This is about the constitution of the United States of America. We took an oath not to try to protect Donald Trump. We took an oath to protect the Khan and serve the constitution of the United States of America. And the way we do that is we begin impeachment proceedings now against this president pretty blunt Warren saying impeachment proceedings should begin. Now speaker Pelosi of courses than very careful on impeachment even saying today, Trump is goading Democrats to impeach him. But she didn't leave the door. Open. She says the administration's outright refusal to comply with how subpoenas quote could be an impeachable offense and twenty twenty candidates Senator Kamala Harris says congress needs to make a decision on instruction. We are talking about such a fundamental issue, which is whether or not the president of the United States obstructed Justice. I think it's it's something that we need to figure out, and and congress has a responsibility to look into it. And so I support the effort to actually begin the steps toward figuring out what happened. So this is the political backdrop to the massive fight in Washington. And it comes with a rapidly growing list of former federal prosecutors more than seven hundred now saying Trump would be hit with multiple felony charges. If he was not president look how quickly just from yesterday morning to the afternoon to today. Seven hundred plus back with me as a former federal prosecutor who signed that letter Joyce fans Danielle Gibbs Lucia from the center for American progress who also served in the Obama administration and EJ Dionne columnist for the Washington Post. I don't know AJ does this feel at least in some sense. Like a turning point to you the nervousness about impeachment over twenty twenty political concerns? But now the White House says no Muller gnome again. No tax returns. Democrats obviously theories prosecutors with that letter offering some legal cover, do you sense? We're moving any closer to impeachment here. Yes. I mean, I agree completely with the premise of your question. I think two months ago, a lot of people, and that was one of them said, you know, the country might be better off if Donald Trump were simply defeated at the polls by margin, and then we could move on now because the administration is turning down every single request congress makes whether it's for taxes, whether it's for Muller's testimony. We'll see if they try to block it or mcgann's testimony or mcgann's documents. This is saying no to every form of accountability. It's more the behavioral monarch or authoritarian leader than a president. And I think you see. Pelosi's comment that you just reported that she who has been very strongly of the view where better off beating at the pole. She wants him on the ticket with the Republicans is now saying congress can't just lie down and accept being treated this way. Because not just about treating congress. It's about fundamental accountability under the constitution. So yes, I think we're closer to impeachment today than we were even a week ago. Yeah. I mean, it's worth remembering Danielle back in March. When Nancy Pelosi kind of set the standard for impeachment. She said at the time quote impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there's something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don't think we should go down that path. But are we at that point? I think we're rapidly approaching it there is some sort of irony in the fact that it is Donald Trump and his administration's behavior and past couple of weeks at are pushing Democrats who who were a little bit hesitant to say. The I word to say. We may have no choice but to impeach president or to start an impeachment referral or starting peach hearings because there is something called the rule of law. Now that Donald Trump seems to think that he's above the law and above the constitution. But they can't just say no to everything that congress legally has a right to see her ask for. So I do think that as EJ said we are much closer today towards at least beginning impeachment hearings, or like more investigations that we were a couple of weeks ago jerks. I wanna play Neil cut, y'all. He's talking about the unprecedented nature of this seven hundred plus signature letter from former federal prosecutors, including you. I mean, it's hugely significant. I've never seen anything quite like it all of them saying when we review this evidence, it's obstruction of Justice. And if this were anyone else, but a sitting president this person would be labeled a felony and staring down the fell in L staring down the barrel of a federal indictment, and what you have in. This letter is three hundred seventy prosecutors saying we agree. The mullahs report shows the president is a felon. Phil again, three hundred seventy yesterday at this hour now seven hundred so so joy summarise the case. Because clearly this has momentum the striking thing about this letter is not that it was fun, but political appointees, although there are some people like me who were US attorneys on it. What's striking is signed by career people by line prosecutors by criminal chiefs who every day are charged with evaluating the evidence in a case and making. Decision about whether to indict and here an extraordinarily large. Number of prosecutors has looked at the evidence laid out in the mullahs report and said, you know, I would indict this case, and that's an important decision because these are people who just by their training by their practice leave their politics at the door when they walk inside of their offices at the Justice department and look just at the law, and the facts they're not saying that the president is guilty. They're saying that they believe that there is sufficient evidence to bring an indictment were you surprised that it's gone up to seven hundred because I I was a little stunned when I heard the number. I wasn't surprised at all. And in fact, I noticed that several of my predecessors in north Alabama or on the list as our prosecutors from across the country, many of them people with twenty thirty even in a couple of cases forty plus years experience at DOJ, this is really a rising up of the career folks that Justice department in support of this proposition. I suspect that if people who were still working at DOJ had the ability to sign this. We would see significant numbers there as well. Well, a rising up Danielle take a listen to twenty twenty Republican challenger former governor Bill well to also signed this letter talk about impeachment. I've been one who've been agreeing with stunning Hoyer another is that impeachment might not be a wise thing to do right now. Because the president might not get convicted because of not sixty seven votes in the Senate, and then he would declare victory just before the election. I don't know this stuff is pretty tough. So you are open to impeachment now. Well, I think it needs a little rethinking in view of the brazenness of their response by both the president, and my friend Bill bar Danielle expand a little bit on something. We've touched on which I think is a central question here now in Washington this conflict between what one side is a political imperative for people who believe the president committed crimes as well as a constitutional imperative. But for Democrats who believe the path to victory is the issues. It's a different kind of calculus. Yeah. In DC. You can never said. Operate the politics from anything. But I would encourage my democratic friends to to really think through what's at stake here. The American people deserve to have a full and open hearing and understanding of what is in this report. And I think once the American people fully understand everything that has happened all the context all the obstruction that is clearly laid out that seven hundred DOJ former DOJ and prosecutors have signed on and said, they think is obstruction. What's the American people actually hear that understand that I think some of those political concerns may go by the wayside? But at the end of the day like Democrats were elected to be a check on Donald Trump. They won the house by by record numbers. Because people wanted there to be a body that stood up to Donald Trump and also put forth policies that would make the American people's lives better. So I think that Democrats sometimes have to get out. Out of their heads a little bit and understand what's really at stake. We are facing a constitutional crisis. And it's important for there to be an open hearing of everything that happened with the Muller investigation. I also find it really interesting earlier this week EJ when Nancy Pelosi was talking to the New York Times. And she suggested that she thinks Trump might try to contest the results of the twenty twenty election. If it's a really close margin. Here's what she told him. If we win by four seats by one thousand votes, each he's not going to respect the election. He would poison the public mind he would challenge each of the races. He would say you can't see these people. What do you make of that? Well, I agree with her. In fact, Trump said the other day that he's lost two years. So he's two years more. So I don't think that's I think Pelosi is onto something he was J. He was exactly and that I think that in any event. In order to govern ourselves that margin has to be big. So everybody in the country can say where Tom with this. I think with Pelosi on impeachment. There were few zal to let witnesses appear the refusal to hang hand over documents has kinda wreck the strategy. She had in mind, what she had in mind is we won't impeach. But we will have hearings. We're going to instruct the public on what is in the mullahs report and let them decide and then and only then will we face the impeachment question. But with Trump with his sense of television. He knows that this television show would not be good for him. So he's trying to block all the characters from from appearing on the show. And that's why I think she has to reconsider the strategy that she would prefer, but may not have available to her. Yeah. She keeps the back for head. She keeps thinking he's doting us. He's going as we shouldn't play into it tough tough tough times. But also important ones for the decision makers EJ, always great to see you, Danny our Joyce. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. I had a major honor for comedian. Dave Chapelle hasn't going home to. DC, but first Malania Trump's former friend and Trump inauguration organizer says she was thrown under the bus. That's next. Someone who was a top organizer for Trump's inauguration has turned on the White House. Stephanie walk off a longtime friend of Melania Trump, telling the New York Times, she was thrown under the bus disputing White House claims that she was fired last year from her unpaid role advising Milania and pushing back against anonymous White House officials who accused her of profiting from the inauguration. Here's the quote was I fired. No, did I personally receive twenty six million or one point six million. No was thrown under the bus. Yes. Here's the thing. Seventy walk-off is talking to investigators with the southern district of New York who are looking into the inauguration, a probe triggered by the federal rate of Michael Cohen's office that rate uncovered recordings that Cohen had made of walk-off talking about her concerns about the inaugural committees spending, the news tonight just. A day after code went to prison, another former Trump loyalist is breaking with team Trump and not pulling any punches joining me Steve Kerrigan who was president and CEO of President Obama's 2013 inaugural committee. Steve thanks for coming in. You know, a veteran. Anybody what's involved in running in inaugural? So what would walk off potentially? No that would be of interest to SDN y. All that money was spent and she says that she didn't personally get twenty six million, and she didn't get personally one point six million of that money. But if she didn't get it who did I mean, the the clearest answered all of this, and what she can be most helpful with to C N Y is to go through all of the financials of how one hundred seven million dollars were spent. I mean, this was either colossally mismanaged inaugural that spend more than we spent on both the President Obama's inaugurations in nine and thirteen was either mismanaged, or frankly, it is just an inaugural slush fund that was put there to pad the pockets of all of the president of the first lady's, friends and business partners. I mean, look at that graphic hundred seven million. The other going back to Clinton dwarfed by that number again. I mean, even before any legal questions were raised. Did you see that number and say what the heck are they spending all that money on? It was agreed from day one. I mean, it's it's a recipe by the way for corruption because the rules around transparency for an inaugural funds are almost nonexistent, and frankly, the should be acting on that. Yeah. It's really it's agreed just that the congress of the United States, and they're working on HR one has some language in it that they took up about about inaugural funding, but really congress should put in place in transparency rules right now, you're supposed to report all of the donations that you receive as a committee and only the top five expenditures Jamaica, and you spend one hundred seven million dollars his top five for all in the twenty to twenty five million dollar expenses within those are five hundred thousand dollars. We know for a fact went directly to miss walk-off as a payment to her which by the way, five hundred thousand dollars is more than the entire senior staff made at the two thousand nine inauguration for president of the entire twelve. I know what's not believe me. I'd be doing an auguries every four years for the rest of my life. It was but it wasn't. I mean, that's what this comes down. To is. We need to see we need have transparency. Because when there is not transparency is when we have all kinds of opportunities two point seven million dollars paid to support performers who are coming to the inauguration that Steve Wynn brought with him from Las Vegas. I mean, you've got Tom barrack who by the way should be looking for buses like the one that Miss World Cup Cup thrown under left right and center because that man had a dinner where they spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of the inaugural funds to carpet, the place that Melania Torian where they had a dinner for the chairman of the inaugural inaugurals are there to celebrate a peaceful transition of power not to pad Tom barracks personal pocket by giving him business opportunities to invite a thousand guests that will help them in his business later. I've only got thirty seconds left but woke up did not discuss the inaugural spending with the times because she signed an NDA. Disclosure agreement saying, quote, if the committee were to release me from this obligation. I would be able to speak freely without the fear of legal or financial repercussions are NDA's common for inauguration. Officials. Did you have to sign one? So I checked with a few folks who worked with me and nine and thirteen I don't remember signing them. Maybe we did. But certainly the intentive we have them was to keep planning private before the inauguration. So is not so create insecurity wrists and not to protect somebody from legal liability when it comes to graft and misspending of money, I'll tell you the people are dispensable to the Trump family. And frankly, that's something that people like, Tom barrack, and Steve Mnuchin should be looking out as they are, frankly, obstructing congress and the actions that they're taking, but this is really it transparency would would really help solve all of these problems. But we're never going to get that out of Donald Trump or his administration and hopefully in a couple of years, we'll have a democratic inauguration that can help hit the reset button for the United States of America. And I'll just make note of the fact that you are in fact still in touch with. And clearly friendly with people you worked with on the Steve Kerr again. Thank you so much still ahead. It was one of the wildest midterm elections. And it's not over news on the fight in North Carolina. There's new drama to tell you about tonight, and what was already one of the most dramatic congressional elections in twenty eighteen I'm talking about North Carolina's ninth district. Now, remember, this was the first case of election fraud to actually result in a new election back in November democrat, Daniel McCreadie lost the election to Republican candidate Mark Harris by nine hundred votes, but accusations of ballot tampering from a Republican operative caused the elections board to decertify the results, then it all blew up because of emotional and gripping testimony for Mark Harris zone, son. Who said he warned his father before the election that the aid was doing something wrong? And you you had suspicions from about McRae. Dallas from the store. Yes. And you've expressed that to your father all of my dad, Allah. In in this process. Well, after that Harris dropped out at non Tuesday students day Republicans are in a fierce battle to run against McCreevy who was on the bean back then talking about the importance of this election. People are saying this is the largest case of election fraud and living memory you had a situation of of covering up of emails of lying on the stand of leaked early voting information to to marquesses campaign. This really goes to. I think what does it mean to live in a democracy? What does it mean to be an American? Well, mccready is running unopposed in the democratic primary, but ten Republicans are running in the Republican primary and if any one of them gets thirty percent of the vote they'll avoid a runoff right now only one candidate has that state Senator Dan Bishop he's the front runner polling at thirty one percent. So obviously narrowly passing that thirty percent threshold, and he has more than a ten point lead over the candidate in second place. Stony rushing couple of points to make about this. First of all Mark Harris endorsed rushing in the race. But his camp. Pain add raised eyebrows. After he wore a live snake around his neck. But when you grew up in the country. Learn to deal with things that come out of the swamp. I'm not coming to support lobbyists and insiders. I'm coming to fight for the ninth district. Snakes aside. It's good to remember that the leading Republican once again, that's Dan, Bishop is the very same guy who co-sponsored North Carolina's bathroom Bill which required people to use public restrooms that match the gender on their birth certificate that Bill caused an uproar people were canceling things in North Carolina since then it's been partially repealed. So buckle up if Bishop wins the primary next week as the polls suggest he will McCreevy has made it clear he is ready for a fight. And we'll be watching ahead. Comedian Dave Chapelle is going home to DC. We'll tell you. Why? Dave chappelle. Getting the Mark Twain prize for American humor, the Kennedy Center saying Chapelle is the embodiment of Mark Twain's observation that against the assault of humor. Nothing can stand Chapelle making headlines in recent years with his take on Donald Trump. Listen to him say naive, poor white people things. My don't Trump's going to go to Washington, and he's good a fight for us. I'm standing outstanding thing to my mind. You. You are gore. He's fighting for me. Congrats today. Chapelle that's going to do it for me. He's back here. Tomorrow night at six eastern. It's Lawrence O'Donnell. If you love MSNBC where your heart on your sleeve, you can gear up with t shirts. Hoodies hats and more from the last word and all of your favorite MSNBC shows you can shop now at MSNBC store dot com.

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"From New York. This is democracy. Now. Long time about the protein constitutional crisis. We are now in its we are now in a constitutional crisis. The House Judiciary committee votes to hold attorney general William barring contempt of congress over at your fuse turnover. The unredacted Muller report as the White House invokes executive privilege to prevent the reports. Full release. We'll get the latest then over and lift drivers go on strike head of Uber's debut on Wall Street, the company could be valued as high as ninety billion dollars. But it's drivers are struggling to survive really goes to show you the urgency of this fight and the depth of driver unity, and the visceral sense of rage that leaper lived drivers are feeling across the globe. Then a stunning U. N report warns up to a million plant and animal SP. Species are risk of extinction. Due to human activity, losing species Historica vite potentially five hundred thousand to a million species are threatened with loss with Las mount chevaux, a native forest much of native wetlands and affective for the by the versus he needs to be considered as an equally important issue is climate changing all that and more coming up. Welcome to democracy now democracy now dot org. The Warren peace report, I may make Goodman, the House Judiciary committee voted Wednesday to hold attorney general William bar in contempt of congress over his refusal to turn over the unredacted Mullah report to lawmakers. It's not clear when the full house of representatives might vote on the contempt charge. But House Judiciary chair Jerrold Nadler said he expects vote rapidly. Wednesday's vote came just hours after the White House said President Trump will claim executive privilege to prevent the release of the full Mullah report to congress as well. As documents helped by former White House counsel, Don Mcgann and other top officials. This is Texas Democratic Congress member Sheila jackson-lee, I can only conclude that the president now seeks to take a wrecking ball. The constitution of the United States of America for the first time in the history of the United States. A president is now exiting. -secutive privilege over every aspect of life that the American people desire to have information, we'll have more on the constitutional crisis unfolding in Washington after headlines. The Republican led Senate intelligence committee has subpoenaed Donald Trump junior to return to Capitol Hill to testify about his role and matters related to the Russia investigation. It's the first congressional subpoena. Compelling one of President Trump's children to testify in two thousand seventeen Trump junior appeared voluntarily before the committee where he testified it was only peripherally aware of plans by the Trump organization to build a massive skyscraper in Moscow. His statements were later directly. Contradicted by president. Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen who testified he briefed Trump junior and assist or vodka out the Trump Tower Moscow project about ten times New York state, lawmakers have moved to make President Trump's tax records available to the US congress on Wednesday, New York state Senate approved the truck. Just act which would allow the -partment of taxation to handover any state tax return requested by certain congressional leaders. The Bill faces vote in the New York assembly Monday where it's expected to pass and democratic governor Andrew Cuomo has promised to sign the legislation. The Trump administration's impose new sanctions on Iran, saying it'll punish countries that purchase a run in copper, aluminum or other medals. The new sanctions came after Iran announced it will stop complying with parts of the landmark two thousand fifteen nuclear deal and resume high level enrichment of uranium and sixty days if other signatories of the deal do not take action to shield runs oil and banking sectors from US sanctions that move and turn came a year after the Trump administration pulled out of the nuclear deal, even as European allies. And the United Nations said Ron was in full compliance in Arizona humanitarian aid volunteers recall. Four sets of human remains as they searched for missing migrant in the western desert of our sewn near the US Mexico border, the group no more deaths found the bodies over the weekend. They searched for a man who was last seen with badly blistered feet vomiting blood. The group says it carried out the search after the border patrol refused to initiate a rescue. This comes as a federal court in Tucson, wrapped up three days of testimony in the trial of Scott, Daniel, Warren, and no more deaths. Volunteer who faces misdemeanor charges for leaving food water shelter and clothing for migrant border-crossers in the same desert region where the group found the bodies, President Trump traveled to Panama City beach and Florida's panhandle Wednesday for a campaign rally where he laughed an approval when an audience member shouted migrants crossing into the United States should be shot. The interaction came as Trump was praising border. Security workers. We don't let them and we can't let them use weapons. We can't other countries. Do we can't I would never do that. But how do you stop these people? You can't this. That's only in the panhandle. You could get away with that state. President Trump's laughter and Joe came after the audience member shouted shoot them in Maryland. A federal judge ruled Wednesday a Coast Guard Lieutenant accused of stockpiling weapons hoping to kill prominent Democrats. Journalists can be released from jail while he waits trial US magistrate Judge Charles days. Ruling if it holds up on a peel will allow fifty year old Christopher Hassen to be supervised by relatives and a twenty four hour home detention ahead of his trial on weapons charges. Prosecutors say Hassen espoused white nationalist views research, the addresses of US supreme court justices sought to assassinate democratic presidential hopefuls and cable news anchors and intended to quote, murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country and Afganistan the Taliban has claimed response. Ability for an attack Wednesday and the offices of a US-based non-governmental organisation in the capital, Kabul that killed at least five people and left two dozen others injured the attack targeted the offices of counterpart international, a nonprofit based in Arlington Virginia that's funded by the US agency for international development. The attack came following a proposed Ramadan cease by Afghan president Ashraf Ghani, the Taliban rejected the proposal. Amidst ongoing peace talks with the United States in Lahore Pakistan, at least ten people were killed Wednesday morning. Twenty five others wounded after a suicide attacker bombed an eleventh century sufi shrine. The attack was claimed by a splinter group of the Pakistani Taliban in two thousand ten and attack on the same site killed more than forty people North Korea test-fired too short range ballistic missiles today, and it's latest show of military power after. President Trump walked away from denuclearization. Talks with Kim Jong on in February the military drill did not violate a moratorium on long range nuclear capable missile tests. But South Korea's government called them. A very disturbing development that won't help to ease. Tensions on the Korean peninsula in South Africa. Polls closed Wednesday in national elections with early results showing the governing African National Congress will likely hold its parliamentary majority with about one third of districts reporting. The ANC has won about fifty five percent of the vote with the main opposition Democratic Alliance party and second place with a quarter of the vote. The results do suggest support for the NC could fall below sixty percent for the first time since the end of white minority rule. Final results are due on Saturday back in the United States voters in Denver Colorado appear to have approved a ballot measure decriminalizing the recreation. Use of psychedelic mushrooms under the ballot initiative. Psychedelic mushrooms will remain illegal to buy seller possess, but police are instructed to make enforcement of such laws the lowest possible priority. Recent medical studies have found silo side than the active ingredient in psychedelic mushrooms can have positive effects treating depression addictions, PTSD pain, anxiety in Baltimore, Maryland. University administrators at Johns Hopkins colden police Wednesday to end a month-long sit in protest at the campuses main administration, building seven protesters were arrested students are demanding Johns Hopkins, reverse plans to create a private university police force and cancel contracts with ice immigration and customs enforcement to see our coverage of the sedan. You can go to democracy now dot org and drivers with the ride hailing services Uber and lift went out on strike and cities worldwide Wednesday to protest low wages and poor working conditions drivers in Los Angeles, London. Melbourne Australia, south, Paulo, Brazil, New York and other cities temporarily. Halted work to demand. Uber and other rideshare companies like lift treat drivers like fulltime employees rather than independent contractors. This is Janet Kwan the New York taxi workers alliance right now, the the amount that passengers pay is regulated dot needs to be regulated eighty to eighty five percent needs to go to the driver because they're the ones doing the work. We also want to stop unfair drivers are just, you know, basically fired without any just cause the strike came just days before Uber set to go public valued at an estimated ninety billion dollars which would make it one of the largest initial public offerings and US history. We'll have more on the Uber and lift strike later in the broadcast, and those are some of the headlines, this is democracy. Now democracy, now dot or the Warren peace report. I mean, he could and I mean Shaef welcome to listen view as around the country and around the world. We begin today's show on Capitol Hill where the House Judiciary committee has voted to hold attorney general William bar in contempt of congress over his refusal to turn over the unredacted mother report and the underlying evidence to lawmakers. Meanwhile, house intelligence committee chairman Adam Schiff has issued a subpoena to the Justice department for the unredacted report. This all came off to the White House invoked executive privilege to prevent the full reports released to congress and to bar former White House counsel, Don began from providing documents to congress related to the Muller probe. House Judiciary committee chair Jerrold Nadler spoke to reporters after the contempt vote. This was a very great an amend this step that we were forced to take today to move contempt citation against the attorney general of the United States. We did not relish doing this. But we have no choice attorney general bar. Having proved himself to be the personal attorney to President Trump rather than the attorney general of the United States by misleading. The public as to the contents of the Muller report twice by not being truthful with congress has shown himself to be the personal turning the United States rather than the attorney general for a long time about approaching constitutional crisis. We are now in it. We are now in a constitutional crisis. That house committee vote to hold barring contempt was twenty four to sixteen along party lines. And will now go before the full house. The Justice department accused Democrats and engaging in inappropriate political. Theatrics. Republican lawmakers including Doug Collins, Georgia responded to Nadler's claim of constitutional crisis a hurt. The chairman just a moment ago say where the constitutional cross the constitutional cross is a committee. That is asking the attorney general things that he cannot deal. The constitutional crisis is a committee asking why the law but enforced along we go right now to in Mel Heuser columnist for thank progresses recent pieces headlines. Trump's claim that the Muller. Report is protected by executive privilege is hot garbage. And so talk about the significance of the House Judiciary committee vote and going to the full house holding bar in contempt. Sure. So I think that the contempt vote is less important than what's going to come after the contempt vote. So congress in theory could claim that now that bars in contempt. They can send the Senate sergeant of arms to round up arrested him, but the attorney general's got an entire armed law enforcement operatic behind him. So I don't think they want a shootout between the sergeant of arms and the US marshals so realistically. This is going to be resolved in court. I think that Trump's claims of executive privilege here are exceedingly weak, but the question is a whether we have courts that are not so partisan that they'll actually follow the LOL at be whether this gets dragged out for so long that it doesn't really matter. What the courts wind up say in could you explain exactly what it means to invoke executive privilege. You've said that there is no one single concept of executive privilege. Right. So there's two distinct concepts of executive. Village, the stronger form of privilege applies when there's a communications directly with the president of the United States or in some cases with the president's top advisers. That's not the case here. Robert Waller was adverse to the president. He was investigating the president. So there is a weaker privilege that deals with when internal government communications that discuss how they come to decisions about policy or other government actions that privilege probably applies here. But it's exceedingly weak it. Doesn't apply to documents? That's just contain information and don't contain like deliberation. Over specific policies at are. Also doesn't apply to potential government misconduct. And the mother report is one big investigation into potential potential criminal misconduct by the president of the United States. So I think it would be very very strange if the courts were to say that the privilege of. Lies in this case. The problem is we have the courts, we have we have a very partisan supreme court. And so there's no guarantee that they're going to follow existing law. So at the same time that you have the House Judiciary committee to hold William bar, and contempt that has to go to full house. You have the Republican led Senate intelligence committee led by Senator Burr subpoenaing for the first time, Donald Trump junior. Can you explain what that is all about and the significance of this? The first time Donald Trump's children have been subpoenaed. Sure. So we know less about that than we know about some of the other things I think what we do know is that Donnie Trump had claimed that he was not very involved at all with plans to build a Trump Tower Moscow plans that eventually fell apart. But there was apparently active discussions about building Trump Tower in Moscow during the twenty sixteen race. And of course, given Russia's involve Russia's interest in electing Donald Trump, you know, any connection to Russia is potentially very disturbing. Don, jR, claimed that he didn't know very much about that at all when he testified for the Senate Judiciary committee, Michael Cohen, Trump's former lawyer has since said that that is not true. And that Donnie new deal about this. So at the very least there's the potential here for a perjury investigation. Because it's possible that Donnie did not tell the truth to. The Senate Judiciary committee. But I don't think we know more yet about what they intend to probe or like, what might be revealed in this Donny eventually testifies back to the house vote and this question of executive privilege. How does the current situation? Compare to what happened when President Obama asserted executive privilege in two thousand twelve to block the release of documents related to a secret of US government gun running sting operation called fast and furious. The house voted at the time two hundred fifty five to sixty seven to hold attorney general Eric Holder in contempt of congress four years later, a district court judge ruled against Obama certian of executive privilege in mill Heuser your account of this your response. So I think factually there are a lot of distinctions between those two cases the case involving the fast and furious investigation turned out to be a really easy court case. And the reason was an easy court case is that the Obama administration had already mostly complied with those subpoenas. They they you attorney general holder testified multiple times they released publicly and inspector general's report that quoted liberally from some of the documents that the house was seeking. So eventually federal judge said, look, you've basically already complied with these subpoenas. So there's no good reason for you to not fully comply because there's nothing left for you really to protect so on the one hand that was a fairly easy case. The other thing to know about that easy cases. Like, you said it took about four years for the federal judge to get around to saying that at so if it took four years in a really easy case like that one one thing that I worry about with this fight. Over the Trump subpoenas is that the courts could potentially string this along for very long time. We're talking to in mill Hines think progress dead ho and now joins us the democratic congresswoman from New Mexico's first congressional district along with congressman David she's one of the first native American women elected to congress. So you will be voting when this comes to the house floor congress member, Holland, how will you vote and how significant is this? Do you see this as a constitutional crisis? And do you see it leading to calls for impeachment? It is an absolute constitutional crisis. And it has been. You know since the president got sworn in he has consistently. I mean, it's getting worse and worse every day. And of course, his comments yesterday at the rally in Florida are are just appalling, his racism, you know, all of the other things that give rise to all of this. It is a constitutional crisis. Look, I know that the the committees need to be able to do their jobs. It's our job to do oversight on this government. And so once we are able to get the information that we need that the American people deserve to know. Yes. I will I will happily make my decision. And and so we just need to get to that place. Holland. We're going to break and then come back to our discussion and go further to talk with you about a number of issues, but on this issue of impeachment. If you're talking about him being in contempt of congress bar if you're talking about President, Trump exerting executive privilege, are you headed in that direction? You know, I'm gonna wait and see. I feel that we need to get the information that we need to get right? I can't say right off the bat that I want to vote to impeach I want to wait and see. The all of the information that we deserve to get and I will happily make my decision because you'd be defying leadership. You know, you have this divide in the Democratic Party right now with the house speaker Nancy Pelosi saying no to impeachment saying, that's exactly what Donald Trump wants that. He's pushing Democrats to get in mired in this and the American people feeling like when are they going to be served rather than having these internet scene fights? Well, and thank you for raising that issue because right now, yes, we have oversight of the president. But we also came to congress to do job for the American people. And that's exactly what I'm doing. They don't expect us to just sit on our hands and wait to make changes wait to legislate all things that we know need to happen with respect to giving workers fair shot at success. You know, students fair shot at at a quality public education all those things environment that can't wait. And you mentioned that today in in the in the news that started out your show, we have a climate crisis on hand right now as well. So we can't just poor every single bit of attention into the president. We need to move toward doing so much more for the American people. And so we need to make sure that we're paying attention to those things as well. Representative Deb Honan in a moment. We'll ask about yesterday's Uber and lift strike, but I I want to turn to your efforts to protect the chuckle Kenyon in the desert of north western New Mexico. The canyon is a world heritage site last month. You co introduced the chuckle cultural heritage area Protection Act to protect the area from future, leasing and development of minerals. Could you talk about the threats to chuckle canyon? And why the site is so important. Yes. Absolutely. I mean, look, it's my ancestoral. Homeland C N sister homeland of the Pueblo people as are other areas in the south west of that deserve to be protected. You know, it's it's been it's it is a site that it's a living landscape. It's not it's not ruins. It's not, you know, something in the past that we shouldn't care about right now. I know there was a court decision that essentially stated that we need to that the review was not done properly. So so that's a small victory. What we want to do is have a permanent victory. We want a permit end to fracking and drilling for a ten mile radius around chock canyon. And that's what I will continue to fight for. We're going to break and then come back to our discussion with you democratic congressman Jeb Alan about the massive Uber and lift strike that took place across the world. Old as Uber is about to go public. This is democracy. Now, Deb Haaland democratic congresswoman from New Mexico's first congressional district. One of the first two native American congresswoman ever elected stay with us. Right. What's road? You'll. Sure. The key. Slowdown. Here. It comes the road. Let's go by Spiritualized. This is democracy. Now, I made me Goodman with Nermeen shape. Uber lift drivers and cities around the world went on strike Wednesday to protest low wages and poor treatment of workers just days before Uber's initial public offering which could value the company at up to ninety billion dollars. But why Yuba prepares for what could be one of the biggest IPO in history and executives plan to take home. Millions drivers say their conditions are worse than ever drivers in Los Angeles. London. Melbourne Sao Paulo, New York and other cities temporarily halted work Wednesday to demont Uber and other rideshare companies like lift treat drivers like fulltime employees rather than as independent contractors guarantee, a livable income and and deactivation for drivers that can occur without explanation. Among. Other demands the day of the strike democratic congresswoman from New Mexico. Deb Holland announce legislation that would require Uber and lift to pay for drivers social security and Medicare costs because drivers are considered independent contractors. They're currently required to pay social security Medicare costs themselves, congress member Holland's legislation would place that burden entirely on lift Dubar and other multinational corporations employing large numbers of so-called, independent contractors and the gig Konami, congress member Holland said in a statement, the gig is up well for more Jalan joins us in Washington DC from statuary hall, and in New York, we're joined by vita side, the executive director and co founder of the New York taxi workers alliance which represents over twenty one thousand taxi drivers in New York City. Deb Howland, let's continue with you talk about this legislation. So over is about to go public ninety one billion dollar corporation. And again, we have a large corporation that doesn't value its workers. I came to Congress working families sent me too congress because I know what it's like to live paycheck to paycheck. I know what it's like to be on food stamps. I know what it's like to have to put groceries back at the checkout line because you don't have enough money to pay for it. So this is this continues to be the situation. There's too much inequity in in our country in our world. And I think it's time for the big corporations to make right with workers. Generally, if you're an employee the company you worked for pace half of your employer contributions. They pay half of your social security half of your Medicare taxes right now. Uber Uber lift are making their. Contract employees responsible for that. They're not contract employees their workers their workers for that corporation. They're responsible for four their ninety one billion dollar corporation right now because they're the ones doing the work, and it's time for for the Uber and lift to pay their fair share. So that workers can make a decent living, a livable wage and can support themselves and their families congresswoman. Holland. You've said that could you explain what the loophole is which you've pointed to in your statement, whereby large companies can dawn a standard labor, practices and employer contributions to social security and Medicare what is that loophole. So it's the classification, right? They classify workers as contractors rather than workers rather than employee's. And so when you when you say that someone's an independent contractor, they're responsible for all of their own taxes, all of you know, all of their own employment employment taxes and federal and state, and and every other tax if they're classified as employees, then the employer picks up Hicks up part of that tab. And so we are saying that by all intents and purposes these workers appeared. To be employees, and they should be classified as such. And what has been the response of Uber as Uber is just about to go public its workers having their wages dropped as they're about to make one of the largest public offerings and US history. Right. Well, you know, if unfortunate that they have claimed that they're they're employees their workers make up to twenty one dollars an hour. We found that that Uber. Lived drivers make between eight and ten dollars an hour in when you're in a big city like the one I'm standing and right now, Washington DC, it's very expensive to live here, and you can't live on wage like that. So so we I mean, I'm sure they're, you know, they're not happy about it. But I came here to fight for for working families. And that's what I'm doing. And a congresswoman hall. I mean, just to give sense of the massive disparity as you've pointed out a large number half. Uber drivers don't even make minimum wage, and we'll burst top five executives last year. Took home a hundred and forty three million dollars five executives one hundred forty three million dollars last year. Thickening. That's just that's that's the equity. I'm talking about. It is so unfair that that the big executives to make that much money. When there are people that can't afford to buy groceries. It is it is fundamentally unfair. It isn't right. They don't have a conscience and they need to pay. We wanna thank you very much for being with us New Mexico, congress member, Deb, Holland, one of the first two native American congresswoman ever elected, the says democracy now as we turn right now to the drivers gathered right here in New York City on Wall Street after the New York City strike began yesterday, this is democracy now producer Libby, rainy, speaking with Inder Palmer and Uber driver who went on strike in the I've been driving since two thousand thirteen in income has been dropped drastically. Because when I was working with it was three thousand mile used to two dollars, sixty cents a month. Today. I get one dollars fifteen cents a month. Venit was driving in two thousand thirteen fourteen. Did was thirty forty thousand drivers today's one hundred sixty thousand driver payment. My income has been dressed degrees from thirty seven to ten dollars. And it's hard to support my family and to myself, and I'm very lucky I have three kids who supports me Vati jobs that investors biggies and dad helping me out without that have nowhere to drive to eighty hours a week that you're treated as a part time employees. How does that affect you? Okay. In two thousand thirteen fourteen I was driving seventy and into the office. And this all the Uber drivers parttime cues me. It was last week. And you tell me I'm part time driver. He said policy to have only part time drivers not afford time drive. I said, then I'm eighty hours still call me a part time. He said, yes. The one of the managers that he said all that. I was part time driver. That's how they want. Every driver to be a part time. Driver, say your income has dropped from thirty seven dollars an hour to around nine dollars an hour. And yet you have to pay for gas. You have to pay for car insurance. How much are you spending to be Newburgh driver to walk as an Uber driver my expenses at average about ten dollars. Okay. And if I make ten dollars an hour. I'm just meeting bikes pulses, I'm not taking any money to my to myself to me, this is an exploitation, and if anybody buys I peel the becoming a member of an exploitation, and this is a expulsion, not one driver to almost three million drivers like in nineteen. Hundreds factories would exploiting the factory people in that time all the political leaders woke up, and they made the labor laws and now the activate up again to make a law for the drivers to because three million drivers are suffering and Vini political than we need some political leaders to take a look into it and Labor Department to look into that Bush. Not explode drivers behind the door that the independent contract you called this system. You called Uber. Lifts these other apps a slave system. Why I call it lifted the slave system because as I showed you I'm getting paid nine hundred ten dollars an hour. We are my expenses are ten dollars an hour. You know, literally, I went home with Zito dollar to myself to my family. That's why call these companies explosion and slave-drivers. Finally, you said without the help of your family. You would have been dead. Like some other drivers there's been a spike in suicide spy. By drivers here in New York City. Can you talk about that? And the the devastation that this leads to people's lives. Okay. I'll tell most of these driver for yellow cab driver took a million dollar loan on their medallions, and they could not make the payment and the banks fold losing the houses and on the accounts all those things getting frozen, and they could not take acting if you see two years ago taxi newspapers had no Edward is meant for suicide today every taxi newspaper have half up age of ad telling drivers not commit suicide come to them for help. We don't need help to commit suicide. We need how to make money what we want making two years ago. We wanna make same amount of money. This may be financially and physically and mentally healthy. But today and meet a situation we mentally physically and financially all three we as we are getting exploited by these multi billion dollar companies, and we do. Not have any help from nobody. We do not need a doctor. Tell us knock commit suicide and do not need to take medication for depression. We need to get paid properly. What we do. We were getting paid properly in two thousand thirteen fourteen fifteen seventeen eighteen nineteen income has been dropped by two third. And that's why so many drivers in depression. So many drivers out of committing suicide on over the country. We need of political leaders and Labor Department striking driver ender. Palmer speaking to democracy. Now's Libby rainy special. Thanks to and Tyler Sloan, this is democracy. Now democracy now dot org where joined in studio by beta Desai who is the executive director and co founder of the New York taxi workers alliance which represents over twenty one thousand taxi drivers and New York City. She was out there. Yesterday, talk about the significance of this global strike that took place as Uber is just about to go. Absolutely amazing on their strikes across every single continent. The United States are several cities, and it was just a rolling strike for over twenty four hour period. It's the first time that we've ever seen this among drivers. And why was scheduled just as Burs about to go public? It was timed with the IPO in its pre IPO filing called the, you know, the swan to the securities and Exchange Commission unabashedly notes in there that they expect driver disatisfaction to only increase they expect to cut driver pay to cut incentives and move quickly into driverless vehicles. And this is all after also acknowledging that the vast majority of drivers earned below minimum wage, you're saying Uber expects to cut driver wages more. But as we've just heard there's already been a massive and precipitous decline in a driver's income for. Why has that a decline happened? Well business model is so fundamentally anti-worker on Uber saturated the streets with vehicles, and then they continue to cut the rate of of fair that the drivers would be paid by. And as in. There was saying you're competing with so many more people, and you're getting paid less per fair. Top of that you're paying heavy costs for vehicles to rent or to buy in order to go to work with them. So your head of the New York taxi workers alliance explain as we just heard the. Rideshare driver talking about the effect on taxi workers in New York City are out of our twenty one thousand members about ten thousand of them actually drive for Uber lift we started out as a yellow cab drivers organization back in ninety eight. But over the past five years as more of our members started to drive for Uber left. David teen the membership in there's one of our members we have a unity platform because he said this is fundamentally about the race to the bottom. Guber starves. Uber drivers. So they can start the taxi driver. So both groups of drivers need to stand together against this business model. So were there yellow taxicab drivers who moved entirely too. And if so why it's been a revolving door of desperation because in the beginning. Uber offered bonuses and promotions, you know, sixty thousand dollars guaranteed Federal Trade Commission investigation actually found. And that only ten percent of the drivers ever grossed with Uber had actually promise Guber ended up settling for twenty million dollar fine because of false advertising talk more about this issue of independent contractors part time workers versus fulltime workers. Well, you know, the gig economy. Whether it's Uber lived or handier task rabid anytime workers have demanded, I know it decent pay livable, incomes and job security, dignified work. They've responded by saying, well, this isn't supposed to be full time is part time loopers gone as far as to say by part time, we made just a couple of hours here and there each week every time we've raised the bar to just get to the floor a basic employment protections. You know, they lowered the expectation of what this is actually supposed to be when they lobby they call it a job once they get the. Drivers in they call it a gig. And what do you think people who use Uber and lift I mean, New York is one of the biggest markets Uber. What should people know? Well, both New York and London. I now have had massive driver opposition. What people should know is that this is a fundamentally flawed business model. These the gig economy represents less than one percent of the US economy yet they are lobbying for explicit exemption from not only taxi laws, but also labor laws that are looking to overturn basic protections today taxi drivers Guber drivers are on that front line. But there's millions of workers standing behind us. If we fall forty years ago, taxi drivers were considered commission employees. They then became independent contractors being stripped of all basically protections for minimum wage to the right to democratic unionism and collective bargaining after. Since with from that from drivers when onto more than thirty percent of the American workforce, we've been in this place again, but the significance of may eighth was that it was the drivers from Uber themselves euchre is partly seeking a ninety billion dollar valuation. Both so it's founders can cash out, but also it can become too big to fail as it unveils to Stoep, Ian business model against workers and communities what we're saying is they have made drivers to port to live and these two forces are now on a collision course we wanted to send a message yesterday. We're not deterred by Wall Street and their wealth. We note this business model cannot exist without the drivers the in there s one filing repeated that they need to go into driverless cars, they can't get drivers out of the car fast enough. What we're saying is, but we exist now and you need to answer to that. Explain how tips work because when you go into one of these cars, you know, you don't pay at the end the driver show democracy now yesterday, the person who has just interviewed his pay stubs and for twenty hours work. He had two dollars worth of tips to win these companies started they touted the fact that not is necessary. It's one of the ways which leaper than taxi wants tipping started. It's turned out that only about two percent of passengers tip. They fundamentally changed that culture. It's another way that they brought down driver incomes. We wanna thank you very much for joining us via Desai as executive director and co founder of the New York taxi workers alliance representing over twenty one thousand taxi drivers in New York City. And of course, we'll continue to follow the struggle. That includes not only the Uber and lift drivers, but also yellow cab drivers, well, this is democracy. Now when we come back. Up to a million species extinct in our lifetime. Stay with us. Down. Because. I guess. Once used to be. Now. Somebody else got all of this. Getting attacked by mandate. This is democracy. Now, I mainly Goodman with their shape an alarming new report by a panel of leading scientists warns that human activity is causing the disappearance and deterioration of wildlife at a rate that could represent an existential threat to humanity within our lifetimes the United Nations into governmentl science policy platform on biodiversity and ecosystem services released its conclusions. Earlier this week and found that one million species could go extinct in the foreseeable future. Unless current trends reversed. The study estimates the global extinction rate is quote or ready at least tens to hundreds of times higher than it averaged over the past ten million years, it's the largest and most comprehensive close study of bio-diversity ever it took three years to complete and as based on fifteen thousand. Scientific papers the landmark report singled out industrial farming and fishing as major drivers of the crisis and cold for transformative change to rest present trends of bio-diversity Lawson species extinction. The report will be released in full later this year. This is chair of the UN panel, sir. Robert Watson losing species historical, right potentially five hundred thousand to a million spacious threatened with loss with loss. Mount chevaux native forest much on they tip wetlands and effectively by the versus he needs to be considered as as an equally important issue is climate change is just an environmental issue is an economic issue at develop an issue a security issue, a social model an ethical issue to talk more about the report we joined by two guests in Minneapolis Cape. Browns with us one of the coordinating lead. Authors of the UN science report environmental scientists at university of Minnesota. And here in New York. Ashley Dawson is joining us professor of postcolonial studies at City University of New York graduate center in college of Staten Island. His books include extinction radical history. We welcome you both to democracy now. Cape Brown, and you're one of the lead authors on this report a million species going extinct explain. It is really shocking. What we've done is that a bunch of experts have looked at really what the trends that look like for many many different species, including insects and looking at those trends, it's quite clear that up to a million species. Twenty five percent of all of the animals on earth are threatened with extinction. Many within the next couple of decades, unless we change our activities, and what most surprised you Kate about this report as you were working on the research. The thing to me. That's the most shocking is really just what the picture looks like when we bring it all together. So this report is an assessment it's designed to bring together the incredibly large existing body of research. This was not designed to do research, and so much of this has been known what we've done is really bring together all the pieces lay them out. Clearly, so that we can see what a big problem. This is can you talk about the threat to biodiversity ongoing species extinction and climate change. What we see is that there are a lot of different drivers that are causing this to happen, and that they all interact with each other. So probably the biggest threat to species to date has been land. Use change. We have made so many changes on the earth, particularly through farming. But also through roads through timber harvest, and that's had a tremendous impact, but it interacts with climate change. And so what we see is that these interacting affects of land use change climate pollution species extraction that they all worked together to really make huge threats to the environment and to us as humans, I wanna bring Ashley Dawson into the conversation. Ashley you've written an entire book on the radical history of extinction. You'll response to this report while therefore, I think is really a landmark report and. It shows that the crisis faces and just want to climate change in some ways, it's comparable to the IPC report from last October, which really sounded a really important alarm about the system that way face and its potential Klatt's. But what this shows is that it's a crisis of multiple different dimensions. And that it's driven by economic system, which is fundamentally destroying the trestle systems that we all depend on. Well, I'd like to to turn to sexually of state. Mike Pompeo's recent comments on the Arctic just hours off to the release of the UN report Pumpido celebrated the shrinking levels of sea ice in the region. Saying it opened up new opportunities for trade. He also called for the exploitation of natural resources in the Arctic. Is the forefront of opportunity and abundance. It houses thirteen percent of the world's undiscovered oil thirty percent of its undiscovered gas, and in abundance of uranium rare, minerals gold diamonds and millions of square miles of untapped resources. Fisheries galore steady reductions and see ice opening new passageways and new opportunities for trade Arctic sea-lanes could come before the could come the twentieth century Suez in Panama Canal. Scientists warned that melting sea ice in the Arctic due to climate change will have catastrophic offense on effects on coastal cities bio-diversity and the global economy, President Trump, of course, has called climate change a Chinese hoax. So actually your response to what Pumpido said just hours after the report was released. I think typifies kind of extractive attitude, which as I said is destroying the planet. I mean to give one. Concrete instance, we have been exploiting land so much and degrading land that we only have about sixty harvests left. Right. Sixty agricultual harvest slap. What does that mean, the means about only sixty more years of food potentially? So we're not only talking about the kind of crash it by diversity and potential extinction of species out there. We're talking about the kind of fundamental crisis of humanity its relationship to the natural world and our relations to one another. And he's saying is if the ice melts it opens up passability for trade. It means you can get another Panama or Suez canal gives new meaning to them term, disaster capitalism. Right. I mean, this is really about joking king the planet as we push it towards unsustainability, I want to get your response to this. Well, Kate Brown than that if the ice melts, it just opens up opportunities for trade. Well, I will say that. I see it as an opportunity, but as an opportunity for doing things better one of the things we talk about a lot in. This report is that we are not hopeless that there are a lot of potential ways that we can have a better future. And one of those is really having better intergovernmental cooperation, the Arctic is a place where intergovernmental cooperation has happened in the past. And we have the opportunity to really manage and steward these resources in a positive way that can be a model for the way, we think about the planet part of that is going to be really integrating what we know from indigenous and local cultures many of whom have lived in these regions for a long time into the way that we do management actually Dawson you talk about radical conservation. What does that look like? And you particularly talk about cities. I am intrigued by. The title of your book, extreme cities, the peril and promise of urban life in the age of climate change, right while so right now, we have a system of agribusiness that's based on using fossil fuels for pesticides fertilizers and exploiting the land as much as possible, and we clearly need to shift and one of the things that's really wonderful about this report is that it explicitly talks about shifting that system to one that's based on aggravates college using natural inputs, not using all of these pesticides that destroying pollinators like the populations and other insects, and we don't just need to think about that happening outside cities right now, the majority of humanity lives in cities, and so cities can also be a place for rewinding for increasing. Some of the wetlands for instance, that we've plowed under and by doing that for absorbing more carpet, so agree with Kate about how you know. This report is sounding an alarm, but it's also calling for really important shifts attitude material changes that can put us on a different course. What does that say actually about the kind of structural transformations? That would be required minimally for the economic system that governs at this point large parts of the planet, which is based on endless expansion and consumption by larger and larger numbers of people at greater levels. I think it's the greater levels. It's really care. I mean, the report does talk about the issue of population increase, but it also makes it quite clear that it's inequality and kind of capital of system that's based on costly ramping up consumption of natural resources that is at fault. And that we need to shift away from that system. What is the alternative? What is the turn of turn? If is a kind of green new deal for the planet, and the authors of the system talk about that, they say quite explicitly that we'd value shift and material shift towards more sustainable forms of engagement with the planet and k. This report comes on the heels of several other climate reports of bio-diversity reports. What is it that? This report says that these other reports have not concluded. This report does a couple of different things it brings together a wider body of evidence. And really makes a point of elevating what we know from indigenous and local cultures. It makes a really explicit tie from human activities to bio-diversity to human wellbeing. And then it points us in positive directions for the future. I think actually really sum this up. Right. We are identifying the need to really have transformational change to redefine what it means to live. Well, in a way that reduces our consumption and changes are production. Let me ask you Ashley Dawson about the anthropocentric nature of the report is at frame species survival as a matter of human survival that perhaps concern that humans won't care that million species will go extinct unless it's put in terms of human beings going extinct. Right. Right. Well, you know, there is something about the report that is influenced by the times we live in. It's cold report, not just on biodiversity ecosystem services. And so that kind of liberal calculus is very evident from the reports title itself. But I think that the report is sounding these alarm bells and not discounting the innate validity and importance of the natural world and of other life forms. It just wants to emphasize how intertwined we all are at this point, right, and how we can break that link and Kate Brown, and if you'd like to respond to that. I agree. It is an anthropoid Centric take. And that I think is very important because as actually says we are not separate or unlinked from the environment and steward the the environment. Whether we're doing it for personal gain. Or because we care is what we as humans are doing. And that brings us to the center in ways that I think are very important in terms of moving forward and changing our behavior and changing this trajectory and do you see policymakers responding? I think so one of the things that so exciting about this is that it is a report of the governments. There are one hundred thirty two Member States who are part of this platform, and they approved this document. This is something that governments say we think is important we want to thank you both for being with us. Of course, we're going to link to the report Kate Brown is one of the coordinating lead. Authors of the new U N report on extinction. Environmental scientists at the university of Minnesota speaking to us from Minneapolis. And Ashley Dawson is a professor at the CUNY graduate center. His books include extinction radical history as well as extreme cities the peril and promise of urban life in the age of climate change. Let does it for our show democracy now is currently accepting applications for paid six month internships here in New York City studio. Learn more at democracy, now dot war democracy. Now is produced by Mike Burke, dean, Augusta Carla wills Tammy Warren. Off Sam out cough. John Hamilton Robbie Karen honeymooning in Dora tame Riyaz do and Libby rainy. Mike, the flip phone Mogilny garra or engineer special. Thanks to Becca. Staley. Julie Crosby you grant, David prudish Mel Daro. That's good Dar's and Karl Marx. I mainly Goodman with Nermeen shake, thanks for joining us.

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Fmr Trump Org exec: Trump scared of new Don jr subpoena

"We're going to begin tonight on the beat with breaking news. A historic rebuke. President Trump and his administration tonight, this crucial House Judiciary committee has just voted to hold attorney general Bill bar in contempt of congress. The move comes as a rebuke to what has become quite obvious to everyone that Bill bar is a controversial attorney general particularly his handling of the mullahs report. And specifically the way that he just teamed up with his boss in a gambit that does break new legal ground because the other big news tonight is today, President Trump claimed executive privilege for the first time the first time ever in his presidency all to prevent congress from even privately seeing the full unredacted Muller report. So these developments have led to quite the unusual scene. And I'm going to show it to you right now judiciary chairman, Jerry, Nadler addressing the press and the public after overseeing this five our tents judiciary committee hearing which voted alternately. To hold Mr. bar in contempt. Mr. Nadler, telling the nation, he thinks now tonight we are in a new phase one of crisis. We've talked for a long time about approaching a constitutional crisis. We are now in it. We are now in a constitutional crisis. Now is the time of testing whether we can keep a Republic or whether this Republic is destined to change into a different more tarantula form of government. We are now in a constitutional crisis. Strong words from the chairman, which he says justifies this historic vote to hold bar in contempt for refusing to give congress the unredacted Mullah report. Now, this vote goes next to the full house speaker Pelosi is expected to rally her caucus to pass it which would make bar only. The second attorney general ever news history to be held in contempt and the first to be held in contempt in his own first year in office. No person and certainly not the top law enforcement officer in the country and be permitted to flout the will of congress and to defy valid subpoena. No person not the attorney general not the president can be permitted to be above the law. The law of this investigative authority, of course, in two different branches of government, the executive and the congress chairman Nadler arguing that the Trump administration's move today to invoke privilege to block, not just the mole report. But the entirety of subpoenaed materials would place Donald Trump above the law and beyond the reach of Congress's lawful. Power to subpoena. The president has stated that his administration will oppose all subpoenas. And in fact, virtually all document requests are going on satisfied. This is unprecedented. If allowed to go on check this obstruction means the end of congressional oversight. Now, the showing Trump that the Democrats will go to the mat on this particular fight as speaker Pelosi separately was bringing up the I word impeachment today. And while this subpoena is about a democratic house against the Republican White House. The Democrats argument against Donald Trump on these very issues may have just gotten an inadvertent lift from Senate Republicans who just broke their own news late today as we were getting ready to come into the newsroom here because they just hit Donald Trump junior with a new subpoena raising the prospect of the White House having to fight both political parties the opposition and its own the house hearing featured some fiery debates today, overturning general bars role in protecting the president the evidence of criminal. -struction against Donald Trump in the Miller report. And where do we go from here? What is our constitutions remedy for this kind of crisis? The attorney general is totally out of control the Democrats that are led by the chairman have resolved to sully the Bill bars. Good name and reputation. President Trump wanted his ROY Cohen and he got his right Cohen. I think it's all about trying to destroy Bill bar because Democrats are nervous. He's going to get to the bottom of everything. Once we get it. Hearings can continue and lead to whatever they may lead to including impeachment. My good friend from Georgia just ask the operative question. How can we impeach? If we don't get the documents. This is all about impeaching the president. If it weren't for him being president he'd be imprisoned with Michael Cohen today as individual one. I'm joined now by Bill Kristol conservative journalists and former Republican White House aide and a critic of Donald Trump. He runs the group defending democracy together. Jason Johnson politics editor for the ruins Nelson. Who was to the Republicans on the house oversight committee and brings that experience to the table Bill. Are we seeing a change here is this in your view a crisis? Yes. I mean, look the administration's just decided to stonewall, and it's it's not stonewalling. Someone a lot of different issues. You could deny refuse to accept a Cepeda criminal case where you thought you were corrupting possibly exposing evidence. It shouldn't be exposed. What are they still willing on the report of the special counsel about the behavior of the president of the United States report that explicitly lays out ten instances of possible, obstruction or perhaps obstruction? Let's call it. And which explicitly says, incidentally, that this he can't resolve that you can't indicted sitting president. But this is where congress has a constitutional role. So this is a direct obstruction. Not just random g the executive branches and being very nice to congress. I think it's a foolish for the Democrats to put it that way. This hurts. Our ability to do oversight is if they they can't look into some problem in the or in the interior department. This is attempt to prevent congress from seriously consider considering all the evidence the question of impeachment. I think congress has to go ahead and consider it with whatever evidence they can get and not get tied up in court. For six months on some complicated issues about oversight. But I think they need to say they should say the Democrats, not the Democrats congress the house should say. Yes, it is a question of impeachment. Doesn't mean we're going to impeach. But we need to have hearings to decide whether as special counsel suggests it may be the case that we will want to go ahead with impeachment. Jason the news headline here takes time to say because so much is happening today and not just from one party and not just from one branch of government on the screen viewers. See what happens all in one day? The house moves to hold bar in contempt. The Senate subpoenas. Don, jR, the White House claims executive privilege for the first time ever. And chairman now, they're declares. We are now in the quote constitutional crisis for people keeping score at home and saying well, some of this stuff seems to get discussed. It's a lot of energy. It's a lot of hyperbole. Sometimes it's not hyperbolic. It's a fact to know Jason that this is the first time the White House has actually invoked executive privilege, and it's over this very issue is Bill Kristol said and giving Mr.. Bars record. It is fair to question. Whether he is being truthful and honest in his duties today, given that he was caught in false statements previously. I give the other side of the argument to his predecessor, the only person who was also served in a non acting in a full capacity as attorney general under Donald Trump. Take a listen to Jeff Sessions today. I think we're not in a constitutional crisis yet. And I don't think very close to it. There's been squabbles between congress and the department of Justice and cabinet agencies for years of all kinds of discovery questions documents, and that sort of thing, I think it's a squabble. Well, what it amounts to really? Jason look at a squabble. Is it a beef into the scrap is steady gay doesn't matter? Okay. The fact of the matter is this began almost two years ago when the president I'd states fired fire James coping in order to make a point about not wanting to get into this investigation. I think Nadler is late to the table on whether or not this is a constitutional crisis. It has been one for years the question now, and I agree with Bill. I would go one step further fighting in court for the next five six who knows how many months get. These documents is a waste of time. Now is the time for impeachment. If the president of the United States with Mnuchin as well, not handing over his taxes and the president basically saying I will not give any sort of information for congress to engage in your job of oversight that is an impeachable. Let me let me ask you this urinalysis and bills suggests that the Democrats have a lot of the cards, but aren't ready for this fight and the inflection point would appear to be now to report. Is largely out the road actions for harm to ongoing matter and other. I are unlikely to overwhelmingly shift the case that is there that Muller clearly made multiple counts of felonious conduct by the sitting president at what point do you? Do you think the Democrats look like the hold me back caucus on impeachment? That people say hold me back or I'm going to fight hold me back, and his, you know, or as you may may or may not know Jason I want to assume anything people who say a lot of hold me back. Don't always want to fight. Oh, yeah. Exactly. This is this is mellow with the nuggets, right? Like, he's always say, we'll be back. The reality is this the this has been held back because of Nancy Pelosi Nancy Pelosi is pretty much thrown water on any attempt to move impeachment four. But I think at this point there is an overwhelming push. There is so much obstruction on the part of this president. And our worries me is I wonder if the Democrats are waiting for someone to just ask Muller when he comes into testifies. Do you think the president needs to be impeached because he's not going to answer that for them? They've got us. Step up to the answer. So what do you think of Jason's point that while the democratic caucus has spent a lot of time discussing their criticisms of Donald Trump and named checking various authorities from Komeito Muller. Even Michael Cohen who laid out regrettable things. I think by any standard about a sitting president some of them perfectly legal and some of them allegedly not at what point do you think the Democrats have to stand up and decide what they're doing? And by the way, if their decision is we're not gonna impeach certain point two bills review of today's hearing than a certain point today's hearing does become less vital. Well, take things one. I think it's a false premise for us all to keep putting the onus on the Democrats. Yes, they are the majority in the house of representatives. And I think they took a critical. I today they held the attorney general of the United States in the judiciary committee in contempt of congress. And I think that that is a first step to leading us towards the hearings that I think they can no longer not have on whether or not Donald Trump committed impeachable fences. But I think something more important is this that I want the American people watching at home to get number one. The Muller report. Our is our report the presidency is our presidency the house, and the congress are our congress. They are elective representatives, and the US v Nixon cases, you know, in one thousand nine hundred ninety four and that is what I've been really mulling over all day as we've talked about executive privilege and contempt and impeachment is whether or not a president can exert privilege as the president has an very big blanket way to I guess, I'll use the word obstruct possible criminal actions or or collusion conspiracy. Whatever way you want to say it and at the end of the day if that is what the president is exerting this privilege for and if he saying don't want Muller to testify. I don't want Mcgann to testify we're not going to cooperate with congressional subpoenas. Then I think we're probably headed to the supreme court at some point. And you're right. We're gonna fight about this for months, but I think that the courts probably gonna have to be the final arbiter. Here. It looks like congress and the president are deadlocked. And I don't think he's going to give and that disturbs me area that the Republicans are not doing their constitutional duty. This should not be about partisanship should be about right and wrong because we know that at least on some issues Bill, you have the Republicans subpoenaing Donald Trump junior, which is not headline. I think many people were expecting today. Listen to Chris Christie who also was speaking today. This was an interview Jeff Sessions and Chris Christie with our own colleague Stephanie rule of playing down the idea that tonight's contempt vote is significant take a look. Eric Holder was whole held in contempt of congress over fast and furious, and what happened from that. Absolutely nothing because the prosecution for contempt of congress is then referred to the Justice department and Eric Holder said, yeah, I've prefer not to be prosecuted, and that was the end of that. And no US attorneys working for that attorney general we're going to prosecute him for contempt of congress. So this is not unprecedented. He finishes everybody saying well precedent. Yeah. It has a single precedent all their history from what I know attorneys. General don't don't typically appreciate being held in contempt Bill and in the older case it actually did help dislodge more information. Although it took time your views. Yeah. But I just don't think, you know, a different case because it was ever questioned for teaching President Obama. I think they should just go ahead and schedule here they may decide at the end of the day. And I. This is a serious night. I don't wanna make light of it. I would never do that. There was talk of impeaching the tan suit. But not not demand in go ahead. Yeah. Good good. The different era. You know, our scandal. It was a huge scandal. The world we lived in before the no, I just think they need to go. You know, they should go ahead with the court cases. I guess, but they need to say, look, we there's this report raises these questions about an impeachable offense. We may decide that there. We shouldn't vote to impeach maybe Democrats will split on some of these counts that happened with Nixon maybe the site to censure the president said, maybe they need to schedule hearings on my opinion. And I don't think it's very complicated. Have a hearing on each of the items that Mahler sites invite the relevant of vite, Mr. Mola, I invite Mr. Mcgann, and other fact, this is if the president tries to prevents them from speaking from testify at least for now, and we'll have to go to court. We'll take a while have a hearing with other experts who can speak about what legal experts constitutional experts. I think they need to get the ball rolling here making clear. This is not they're not impeaching him. They're having hearings. So they can make consideration in your view. Bill doesn't it seem like Muller, and certainly some of his prosecutors who did appear to talk about it at times, they laid out a ROY. Roadmap in the Watergate style with the expectation that congress would adjudicate it and Bill bar misled the country about that momentarily. But now it's all out, and we know it so is your basic argument put up or shut up you hold the hearings on finding those facts. And by the way, maybe you you find the facts that there isn't enough to go forward or not. But that it's time to do that and not wait any further. Yeah. And maybe the most of the experts testify, so you know, what we're not. So sure that the switches the level of impeachment, and that's fine. But let's go ahead and have the hearings do the work. I don't think it would hurt for the house to do with the house did in nineteen early night and seventy four which is to authorize the House Judiciary committee to go ahead and consider impeach with that might give it a little more weight. I think to the demand for for example, from again, if it's oversight really, then I think it's pretty easy for the White House. This is just we'll just one session said on you showed the clip two minutes ago. You know, this is one of these squabbles. Why for their oversight responsibly in terms of legislation? Do they need your Don Mcgann, Don Mcgann can help inform how they right? Revision of the special counsel Bill a year from now, that's not serious. They want to hear from gab is they need to know the true confirm that Muller's accurately reported what Mcgann said which sending the president has denied. This is an actual factual dispute and about what happened, and they need to hear from again, you make an important point Bill because you mentioned the Watergate example, people were transfixed by that we are in a different era with different media. But at the end of the day, there's a reason why you have the right to confront your accuser in court. There's a reason why the president's television obsession was politically useful to him. Because seeing and hearing from these people does change the nature of the public understanding of what happened whether it helps or hurts. I can't predict 'cause I haven't heard that that Mcgann testimony myself. I read the report Donald Trump appears worried that that person telling that truth speaking his truth, if you will might be hurtful Bill Kristol Jason Johnson's Nelson. Thanks to each of you. Thanks for coming up. What are Democrats prepared to do against these officials that they do hold it? Tempt. I am thrilled to tell you. We are going to be joined live by congressman Akeem Jeffries, a key member Pelosi's leadership team next later, I'm going to dig into the evidence that does contradict some of Don juniors testimony about Trump Tower Moscow relates that subpoena, and we'll be joined by former Trump or executive but out of the president might react to this a subpoena that hits both his family and his company and an important story. New cell phone video has now finally an overdue come out regarding that tragic arrests of Sandra bland who later died and Cussing Ray McKesson is live with me at thirty rock Maury, Melbourne, you're watching the beep on MSNBC. Hi, it's Katy Tur wanna keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go subscribe to the MSNBC daily newsletter. You'll get the best of what you've missed or in this unprecedented. Era of news, text MSNBC, two six six eight six six to subscribe. The breaking news a showdown in the United States house of representatives judiciary committee holding this unusual vote against the attorney general Bill bar. The vote is to recommend the full house. Hold him in contempt for refusing to hand over the unredacted motorsport, and it's related evidence. Let's get right to it New York, congressman Akeem Jeffries joins me live. He serves on that day judiciary committee is also the fifth ranking democrat and the entire house. Thank you for being here tonight. You were at the hearing you said there were Republicans full of quote phony arguments against let's take a look your contempt vote today. I'm confused every single person at the helm of this investigation is a Republican pedal that phony argument to us, and then you want to assert executive privilege. Are you kidding me? The attorney general is totally out of control. He will be held in contempt of congress. What does your contempt vote today achieve? Well, it's an important step in the right direction to send the message to and out of control attorney general and Trump administration that we recognize here that house is a separate and Coequal branch of government. We don't work for Donald Trump. My colleagues on the other side of the aisle in the previous two years conducted themselves like wholly owned subsidiaries of the Trump administration. Not as a separate and Coequal branch of government. We wanted to send a message that we recognize we have a constitutional responsibility to serve as a check and balance on the presidency and his administration. We're not going to allow the attorney general simply to ignore a lawful. Subpoena without consequence several of the experts we had earlier in the show make the argument that if this is about actual accountability. For the bulk of the Mola report, which congress does have and the public has read then. Why don't you move forward to impeach featuring proceedings is that what this is really about. And some of your Republican colleagues said the same thing today. Take a look. Once we get it. Our? Hearings can continue and lead to whatever they may lead to including impeachment. My good friend from Georgia just ask the operative question. How can we impeach? If we don't get the documents. This is all about impeaching the president Republican back aids there. This is all about impeaching the president as he wrong, he's wrong. And as he knows the House Democratic caucus and the judiciary committee on the leadership of chairman Nadler continue to focus on actual kitchen table, pocketbook issues just last week in a bipartisan way, we pass four bills out of the House Judiciary committee to deal with the anti competitive practices of the big pharmaceutical companies as part of our effort to drive down the high cost of life saving drugs. Those bills will pass on a unanimous basis at the same time. We do have to make sure we execute our oversight responsibilities. And that's what the hearing was about in the markup today. As it relates to holding the attorney general in contempt of congress, all we want Ari is to make sure that we can secure on behalf of the American people the full unredacted Mullah report because we can't trust those reductions from the attorney general who's acting more like the personal fixer for Donald Trump. We want to underline documentation, and we want to hear from Bob Muller. So he can tell his story to the American people seems to me to be pretty reasonable and briefly your reaction to the Senate subpoena and Don jR tonight. Well, you know, it's not clear to me where they are going and hopefully. You know, we're not seeing an effort to sort of counter, the factual nature of the things that have been revealed in the Muller report that caused problems for the Trump administration is being you concern, they're being partisan. I mean, some are asking why of all days that news is breaking today as it seems to be a bad news day, obviously for Bill bar and the Trump administration we've seen partisan behaviour coming out of the Senate. Oh, my colleagues on the other side of the L far too often over the last two plus years at a Trump administration, which is why referred to some of them as the cover up caucus congressman it came Jeffries in leadership on the judiciary committee. We showed you earlier there. Thank you for making some time for us tonight. Thank you are. Absolutely. When we come back in thirty seconds. We have a lot of former Trump insider who saw it all telling all right here on the beat as we deal with. Also, a fact check on these privilege issues that you're going to be hearing a lot more about when we come back. Back with the breaking news. The US Senate hitting Donald Trump junior with a subpoena late today. I was just discussing it with congressman Jeffries, and the demand is that he come back to discuss the Russia probe. Move adds a kind of a bipartisan Shane to Trump's bows with congress today, he is a certain executive privilege over the whole Muller report, which follows up on his demand that of course, is former council also defy congressional quest for evidence. And then there's the White House is blanket claim that Donald Trump wants to justify all congressional subpoenas. I wanna get into it with someone who knows how Donald Trump fights in business. And in the courtroom barbarous is a former Trump organization executives. She worked with Trump for over a decade. And also the author of all of them on on the sixty eighth floor and bear burger former federal prosecutor in both SDN. Why were the Michael Cohen case was and idiot y good to have both of you here. What does it mean to you? When you see Donald Trump say, we're fighting all the subpoenas, new Trump or old Trump. All Trump with within your twist. Absolutely trouble. The new twist. Yeah. Sure is presently and say Sam, it's just not just some guy some develop. Yeah. He refuses to do things. He typically would say now, you know. You know, s things that he didn't want to answer provide information and want him provide. Nothing new how does he test out whether he thinks it's working? That's a good question. I think he always thinks it's working to be honest with you know, that sounds cruising. But we read these stories about him angrily yelling at people yelling at Jeff Sessions documented report yelling at other people so frustrated in public. He seems to say everything I all, you know, he has he's sort of a fake DJ Calland in public. It's all I do is win in private. He's screaming. I'm aft by presidencies over Jeff Sessions terrible. And so the mole report among other things was simply embarrassing. Did you ever see him? In public say, we're gonna win this case this or that way. And then in private say, hey, we may have to settle. I never saw him admit to being a loser in tribe. It I saw him scream at people. I saw him blaming people for things that you know, he thought might have happened that shouldn't happened that he did without a doubt. But I've never seen him admit that he was gonna lose something actually interesting Baird. I have questions for you. But any reaction to that? I I mean, it's interesting sort of the approach that one would take in the private sector when it comes to civil litigation. So the approach the president may have been used to in his previous life is really different than the approach that is typically taken in interactions between the executive and the legislative branch, which is, you know, not let's fight to the net and make a judge come in and make a decision here. There is this sort of constitutionally rooted principle of reasonable accommodation. So it's a very different posture. I think than the president is probably used to fighting his battles, which means which means that legislative and the executive branches are not expected to take totally unreasonable positions. And then have a judge come in. And try to make a decision. They are obligated courts have found that this is an obligation that they try to work together. And that they tried to come to some sort of an accommodation recognizing the interest that each side has. So this brings us to it's great to have both of you here as DOJ expert, and as a Trump expert, I know, that's maybe not what you said that whole life. It's not only skill set. But it is one of them. It seems like Don Mcgann was trying at times failing to train or train Donald Trump out of his worst impulses. Indeed, Don, Mcgann may ultimately have saved Donald Trump from the self inflicted massacre. That might have ended his presidency at that juncture, and it seems that Mr. bar is not doing that that he's actually encouraging Donald Trump to give into these instincts. What does it tell you that Donald Trump's first ever invocation of executive power, which is until the courts overruled, unless they overrule it is a unitary unilateral thing. He had to be walked there by Mr. bar and part of Mr. bars fights with congress. It's almost like Donald Trump didn't. No how to hit this lever without Mr. bar. Right. I mean, you seem very different postures. Right. I mean, he was I don't want to say cooperative with the Muller investigation because he certainly wasn't cooperative. We as we usually think about it. But he did let executive staff talk to Muller. Never. I wouldn't call them cooperative at all because he did things that other people go to jail for. Let's new to the gist the privilege, which is the news because today's the day the first Trump's ever done this on the privilege. He never hit that button during the pro correct? And now today I'm going to do it. Do it again. Today. Barr says Mr President we gotta hit the button for stuff that as far as I could tell us not directly related to religious. And now they're doing right. And it's just very different postures that he was in sort of pre and post bar. I mean, look with respect to the executive privilege today. I mean, the way I sort of read it as this is a little bit of a stalling technique. He is trying to sort of buy more time for them to. I think continue to figure out how they're going to fight the subpoena. I mean, ultimately their executive privilege for peripheral third party information. I think that it's at least a question. That's it's not a slam dunk. Either way. I think is the short answer here. I think that they there may be issues of valid issues of privilege. I think the bigger question is were they waved? So while they can sort of hit this. But now you're so fair, which is why we have you here. But I'll go further than you. They were waved. They were waved. They were waved. They were worried. I think there are there are certain category. Stories that they're just as no privilege for right? Like anything that happened on the campaign before he was actually the president? There's no even plausible question of whether that is covered by executive privilege. It's just not. So while there are some that they may have some kind of a plausible argument to put before a court. There's going to be huge loss that they don't you know, I wanted to doubt back a little bit on. Why Trump didn't hit the button before? I don't think he could have hit the bun. How could he have said we won't cooperate with an investigation. And I don't think he could say that. Now it can say because he's been exonerated the bar Jonah that had been exhausted. Well, according to him, he has his foul. He has according to the people that want to allow him like the entire Republican party to pull off the stuff that he's pulling off. Yeah. So he now turns around and he says he's not asking Boston should hit the button he would hit the button along. He would have said, no, no. I'm not giving him that on don't bother me. Sunny a business. I don't think it's. Father told them I think it was. I think it's just a matter of now he's got he's got McConnell in this case closed, or whatever the hell he's saying why not why not stop it who's going to challenge them now. Whereas back when everybody was interested. What was this guy Mollet doing? No, he couldn't do it. Then that's my question. You. How does he get so many people like Rosenstein like some of the other DOJ officials, Mr. Horowitz and the inspector general's office. Who's not a household name? But who really did what Donald Trump asked for on Twitter, and a very unusual ousting of Andrew McCabe, which we covered at the time this Rosenstein now, Mr. bar, how does he get so many people who you, and I both know would have been the first to talk smack about Donald Trump before he were president, and he knows deep down because he's an outer borough guy. He he at least seems to fear deep down. They don't really respect or like how does he get them to do so much for him? You know, I have to be honest with you, this is maybe a time this answer. But I think that he does want of three things he is the piper too, many people. And I've seen that happen. I've seen it with my own people. I've seen architects city soothed telling me I voting for him. So some people just by as Bs text that he sued you're saying unfairly or oh, absolutely. And they've. Vote for him. Well, how do they play in it to you? He's the best. Well, first of all this whole Hillary problem, which people just like, but no he's he's really good for the country. And he what is crap. I mean, he did sue them into him. I think he might have been impressed by the fact that he sued him, even though it was wrong. And by the way, he won a lot part of that lawsuit. Because he got some people to test to provide information that was questionable but the other two possibilities on. This is the part number one. Maybe he'd has something on them and to maybe he's taking care of them in some way or another where the promise of this promise of that. When you look at the people that are in positions that wrote positive articles like the. I can't tax. Wrote an article on the next thing, you know, is the head of everything, you know. So there's a little quick poke quo there, but you know, maybe with the guy like bar or something he's he's really got information. I don't know like I said that sounds like a conspiracy theorist, but on the other hand, I mean, it just you can't explain the number of people that are going along with this guy. Republicans are just protecting the point. There's no my mind about that. But somebody like a ball once he doing why is rose doing. I don't know. You know, what we call Barbara's in Brooklyn, a straight shooter. He worked in Brooklyn prosecutor. I was born in book would she be credible witness? I absolutely Barbara reds burger digging into this on a big story. Thank you both. There are new calls tonight to reopen it important police officer investigation because of this never publicly seen before video from Santa land cellphone. It's out. Now, we're gonna explain why it matters in the wider context in police oversight. But first next what did Donald Trump junior actually say that's got him in so much trouble? The next. Breaking news congressional clashes with the White House site, and it's not about just Democrats battling Trump. This fight is within the Republican party the Senate subpoena, Donald Trump junior who's under pressure because he told congress he didn't know much about the infamous Trump Tower Moscow project, which his former colleague Michael Cohen told congress wasn't true. The family members that you briefed on the Trump Tower Moscow project, Don, Trump junior and Yvonne ca Trump do you recall? How many of these briefings there might have been approximately ten okay in total that could undercut Don juniors answer. The question did he have involvement in Moscow deal because he told congress he was only peripherally aware of it with no discussion in two thousand sixteen this discrepancy may of the senate's attention to subpoena for sitting presidents family member. Who's not in the government is a big deal. And I want to point out one more thing tonight. This is even more striking considering the mullahs report didn't have overwhelming evidence against Donald Trump junior for the Trump Tower meeting, in fact on the very day. The Miller report came out, we were reporting how Muller detail the lack of sufficient criminal evidence against Trump junior which was for him. Some good news. Good news for Donald Trump junior. Mullah writes, quote, we decided not to pursue criminal campaign. Finance charges against Donald Trump junior. That was the mole report day tonight. The picture looks a little different because apparently like some other former Trump aids the senate's now proven whether Donald junior perjured himself about things that at least according to Muller may not have been legally incriminating in the first place. Former Watergate prosecutor Nick Ackerman is here to explain why is this happening. Well, I think first of all it's amazing that this is being before a Republican dominated committee the Senate. So I mean that really sends a very strong message that if the president thinks he's going to take over congress and bully congress it's not gonna work, but this is an extremely significant incident because what's important about this in the whole Trump Moscow project is because during this whole time period. Donald Trump had originally tried to stop his knowledge of the public awareness of his knowledge in January of two thousand sixteen when in fact, it went right through the campaign, and what you look at what he did during that period of time in. In terms of what he was saying about Putin. What he was saying about NATO the positions he was taking on various foreign policy issues, such as NATO, which were all extremely pro Russian raises, the very extreme reference or inference that what he was doing was such a conflict of interest that what he was doing was playing up to the Russian government. So he would get Trump Tower built in Moscow, but you have to acknowledge that Bob Muller looked very closely at all that and didn't find it rose to the level of criminality. It doesn't have to rise to the level of criminality the idea that we had a presidential candidate. Who's now our president had such a conflict of interest that he was basically forming his his foreign policy based on what he thought the Russians wanted to hear that he would go and undermine our major alliance with NATO that he would talk badly about everybody. I I. That argument. So then if you're plying that argument, do you think that's the reason Senate Republicans are doing this or do you think that up to something else? So I think that's part of the reason. I mean, I think that they are really concerned about what our foreign policy is with respect to Russia, and that is so totally legitimate. From a bipartisan standpoint that we have a president of the United States who basically compromised himself in order to make money and get a tower built in Russia. I mean, he in fact, he was even considering I think even put out there that the penthouse would have gone to Putin BuzzFeed reported that right denied that. And you're making the point that the Muller brief was to the felonies Senate, the congress, ultimately, whether the American public cares goes to some bigger questions. It's fascinating here that you have been on the Donald Trump junior beat for a while, Nick Ackerman. Nice to see you good to see you. Thank you coming up next a very important story. We haven't earned run down that I wanna share with you because this newly revealed arrest video that we're going to show you has calls to reopen. One of the. More controversial police arrest stops. We've seen the Ray McKesson. It's here we're going to have that debate and conversation next. I'm back now, we're joined by civil rights activists during McKesson to discuss some new developments in a story about Sandra bland who died in police custody. This was four years ago after a very controversial traffic, stop the death itself. In custody was ruled by the authorities to be a suicide. What's new tonight is a video which her family says was improperly withheld, and it was the very video. She took on her own cell phone during that very controversial arrest. Out of the Chlor. Now, why am I being apprehended? You're trying to give me your failure. Why am I being apprehended? You just open my car door, you just open my car door. So you drag me out of my own car get out of the car. And then you do, you know? Well, now Blau out of the failure to save. No. You're doing all of this over there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take this accord. Let's do it for failure to signal yet for you to say about the school up to on the phone. I have a right to restore this is my property. They say who it's your phone right now. That's the new video walk us through especially for folks. Who haven't followed this story? But part of the reason why videos get buried is. So they won't make the news later, we want to cover this walk us through from your view. What matters here, it is wild to hear that officer say I will light you up and remember that during this during the case during the perjury charges with the officer says that he was afraid he was the one who fear for his life. That is why he was aggressive when he walked up to the car, and what we see in this video is if anybody had the right to be afraid who was Sandra he ripped the door open. He said he was going to light her up. You have to remember too that she was detained in the wall county jail, the wall county jail actually doubles as a sheriff's department. I was out there. It's a very small place. And they said that she committed suicide and again having been out there at the jail. That's like it's a pretty small building for something. Like that to happen when nobody hears anything, the perjury charges were later dropped against the officer. Because they said that they didn't have enough evidence to convict him in. What you see today is it seems like there's a lot of evidence that he lied that. He. Actually, wasn't fearful at all. So this calls into question. How many people knew this video existed? How many people participated in what seems to be a cover up and house widespread is this across the country. And you just read something that's so important that we've talked about before which is what is the system the prosecutorial system. Think about how jurors will react. And the system says, well, it is very difficult to get a full random jury to turn against an officer's testimony. And that may be true. But as you just put it what if that officer is on tape acting and speaking in a manner that does not light you to the reasonable observer, events fear. He said, I will light you up. And you know, what we zoom out? We think about police violence and results in death is normally what we talk about. Right. So third of all the people killed by street here in this country is actually killed by police officers. So these incidents are not as random as PPO like to believe say that again, so third of all the people killed by stranger in this country is actually killed by police officer HR Dag. Did this incredible study that helped us understand and quantify those numbers? For the first time. But you see Tommy Tommy again, you think about Oscar grant just recently with the Oscar grant that killing about three grand bar just released the data that showed or the investigation knows this show that the officer called him the word that it was clear that he was not reaching four days or he was actually reaching for the gun in just I can Sandra's case. There was a system of people who participated in a cover up. So we think about these incidents they got not isolated their institutions and actually protect them. Right. I think that's important the grandkids as you mentioned in two thousand twenty candidate have been weighing in on on the new bland video. And on these cases, it was an issue. That was on the news a lot before Donald Trump changed a lot of the conversation. But the grant case was one where again, you say it was a transparency law that released the information that that basically notified as these are some of the candidates weighing in on this case that oh as you said that officer used the N word in that police interaction, which I do think I mean speaking as a reporter at an attorney, I do think could impact how a jury understood the situation. Let me play for you as well. The bland family, which did get a settlement. This is a case that I do think is mixed in the legal part because the officer is you say on the one hand was not alternately brought to trial on the other the pressure did force him out of law enforcement forever. The family was ultimately given a settlement that they accepted. So there were some steps. But here's why they say it's not enough today. Take a look go. What it does without a shadow of a doubt validate is that Brian insignias? Behavior in the field. His lack of judgment in his inability to really de escalate this situation was what was the impetus behind why she was detained in alternately. Why she died in police custody. That the more power institutions have the more questions we should ask in with this. It's like when this happened. Do you? Remember people are like, well, you know, he was afraid he was doing his job. She got arrested. We come here is that this is a reminder that we need more accountability. Mechanisms we need more checks and balances at the police, not less, and it is not really inequality that the worst thing. The only consequence he guy was that he can never be along for some it again, and they can't enforce that across the country. He just can't be in law enforcement in that state. You know, he can very well go somewhere else and be a police officer. And that's just not real accountability at any other institution had people that did that we recall for more teachers were engaging in misconduct like this. We would be liveable and police do it. We're just like this is okay. During McKesson with a lot of important details, or we'll stay on these stories and become back to you on a pre shaving on the be tonight before we go. I've got one more thing to show you it involves Stephen Colbert when we come back. One more thing last night. This happened. Please welcome. Ari melber? It was fun to join the late show. Even go back for the first time, we talked about Bill bar tax returns and more. When someone's in contempt of congress can't they go to jail. So when normal people are held in contempt they go to jail immediately like in my cousin Vinny. The lawyer. Sure fame our right areas. Very similar circumstances. Here the battle over Trump's tax returns. Yes. He's not the only person holding them. They're not just under his bed. There are other people accounting firms, the IRS that have them and those people could be jailed in real time in a way, the president can okay and our system in that way, forces other people to follow the order now McConnell today said that would be nice consequentially applaud. The constitution. Stephen. We don't always have a live studio audience here. But the applause of the constitution is always nice. I also want to thank both Stephen Colbert. And by the way, bandleader John petits to we did notice when I walked out was playing that Gogos. We got the be all right. That's it for our show tonight Willie Geist here. Head over to the Sunday, sit down podcast for a very special bonus episode where I interview my dad Bill Geist about his hilarious new memoir lake of the Ozarks tough booking. But I landed it get it now for free wherever you download your podcasts.

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Cynthia Alksne I think the President took the 5th

"Happy happy hour. It's my legal lady Cynthia oxygen? Ladies all sent the ox ni. This is so exciting. It's so great. And we have a dog in the house. I know what we already read that you are dog lover and applauds instructor. I am. I just instruct people who amuse me though. You don't miss me. No class for you. I wanna pay me. I'll take a bottle of wine. It's like a friend thing. But I obsessed about learning about it. Yeah. So great great age. We are. I love you. And you know, that kinda creepy way you've known me for a long time. Your eyes are startling Lee blue eyes wondering if that was only on TV. No, she's married straight. Whatever type. Yeah. No. You are you're brilliant. You're beautiful. I have loved you since the nineties used to come on. When I was when I was equal time with cannon. I was like, oh, please six she was like my Benke. I'm like the. Counteract bay baby kinda was not warmed. Anyway. So this is amazing to like the legal. You guys are the Rockstars of this whole era because we just I don't even know what to say today as we tape this. They are just completely lawless. You're defying just defy. We have to hope is. When all the norms or busted right now. Then the question will be with the next administration twenty twenty whoever that. Yeah. Does that mean they're busted forever? Or does. That mean, we go the other way like FDR busted, right? The two-term thing. So we had a constitutional amendment because people thought you know, that norm is important even though everybody loved FDR. So that's what we have to hope for happens with north. We get back to norms. We have we're gonna have to legislate nation of laws. Yeah. And pendulums always swing. I have to grab onto that. Hope the pendulum will swing back to the right side. And we're going to have to do things like we're gonna have to find a way. So that when congress issues a subpoena, it doesn't take seven hundred and forty two years to get out and forced. Yeah, we're gonna have to fast-track system facts, we're gonna have to legislate some of these norms. Are you wouldn't think you'd have to say like, hey, you know, what you can't take information from hostile foreign government? You can't be on the ballot for presidency unless your tax returns have been. Have to do that. I'm usually happy animal darker mood. I feel like the pendulum has swung. His broken off spun off into the universe. Darkness is Dr. Never gonna be seeing the nineteen is dead. Yeah. But this must for someone of your by the way. That's really Lau boxes. You are really fancy fancy. Cynthia's news a career federal prosecutor an expert on criminal law grand jury and police investigations and confrontational interviewing techniques. That's mace. I didn't even go to school for that. But yeah, I didn't realize you've worked. I mean in the Justice Burma, but air colder with Bob Muller. What is what's your take on? Bob muller. We a case together in a lot of people who are on the are actually of known him a lot longer than I have. But I did a case with him. And he's a very much a marine. He's a. By the book, just the facts color inside the lines. I hope they find the marine super ethical. You know? I mean, he's like charging pills in Vietnam. He's not fearful guy. I don't mean like color inside the lines like he's fearful. Yeah. Built story. Pardon the by both story. Now, he had knee surgery after nine eleven and refuse to be put under and they gave him a bite belt to clamp down on during the surgery. So he could be awaking case something bad happened. That's a true story. Not me. I'd be I would have. To say right now, I'd have a different. Yeah. Can you can I please do something about the neck on the knee? Can we talk neck wrinkles? It'd be a little life. Oh, I listen horrible, insomnia. I'm like looking isn't that Michael Jackson Jackson, Dr out out of prison yet? And he knows the right dose. Now, doesn't he profile to dark? Okay. CBD oil comes with that's rela tone. I'll pull shit doesn't work any polka fall. I just 'cause I've tried it. All all, right. So tell us more. Alright Jared happy I allow me to interview your dog lover, but you called your sister's dogs a little shit s dogs. Don't see that. My sister, just an just. Wears a little coat door. Oh, there's little yappy things. Like, FOX and friends. They are. Join annoying yappy. Okay. All right. So. Mummy. It's so as we're taping this they've just we knew this was going to happen. Right. They're saying no Mcgann can't right? Starting executive privilege. Yes, obviously Mnuchin has so and Muller with the unredacted excuse me bar with unredacted Muller report so help what do we do? Unfortunately, the problem is this is really at this point. It's at twenty twenty problem. Now, they're going to be able to stall let's face it. They have won this battle. I'm sorry. I hate to be the bearer bed. News on your happy hour, and you're already in a dark mood, but they are going to be able to stall and Mcgann can use this as a shield and say you guys figured out and bar install and ever been the house can file in the DC circuit. But it takes a long time to go through the DC circuit. Yeah. And go up the appeals process and go to court, and we're going to have to win the election. That's what has to happen. Okay. I don't know if I'm getting the right answer to this question of maybe not the one I want keep asking the question. The right answer. You're not going to get the right answer. Yes. I am everything will be perfect tomorrow. Thanks. Is this aggressive and the only I'm not drinking because we're taping it in the morning with this ball. Okay. I don't you. Okay. I feel like I don't care what we call them. But does it make a difference? If we call it impeachment in terms of legally what we're entitled to and how quickly were entitled to it. I just I can't understand how this is not impeachable. What is and I feel like we need to make the case to the American people that needs to be part of the twenty twenty campaign is that because what what are we Chris? You saw thing today. I three percent of Americans have read the mullahs report. Right. Fifty percent of FOX viewers think he is not telling the truth, right? President in the digital bitches remarkable. Of Republicans think Obama was born in Kenya. I mean, still right. Right. I don't get your point. But here's my point since the people are not very well informed. Okay. Right. That's my point. And haven't been drinking point. I would put on your expect to three percent of Americans to read the Miller report. And no more than that. Yeah. Americans are busy busy city. What do you make of this, by the way, you on this letter? It's like, what are we have? Yes, I've hundred. Yeah. Former prosecutors it's just a question of finding more Email addresses, and they'll be more. Yeah. I mean saying that I which I'm not a lawyer. And I read this report. And I'm like what how did that just remember the Clinton time Clinton got stronger through impeachment his bags coach Pelosi doesn't want to make him stronger. I don't think it will make him stronger than she does. That's the difference between you and she's insurance a lot of difference between the employment, and that's yes, she has. She has a lot more experience in the house get that. But okay, here's my that's why. But if she if they just do the investigation, and maybe they. Bring Americans along may be Muller testifies. But the problem is if we can't get Mcgann, right? You can't if you can't get the witnesses. That's a problem, but we have to start with Muller and see where we go fight them again battle. Each mc. What does calling impeachment? Get us legally. It makes a difference in terms of the six immaterial. There's a rear injury. Yeah. Right. The graduate material. There's a recent DC case. Yeah. Mature in somebody's basement that tells fart jokes. You're gonna have to explain. Yes. Sorry. There's a recent DC circuit case by Keever v bar that intimates that we it's more likely to open up grand jury material the public interest. If there's an impeachment in court. It's not totally clear. There's a footnote to be all loyally on you. There's a footnote basically said congress should get sixty material. But there's obviously an issue in the DC circuit to get that materials and he held impeachment as opposed to investigation, you're more likely to get the infests teed. That's not nothing is guaranteed. Let's do all of the above. That's what I'm saying. All of the above. I think Elizabeth Warren is is dead on. They can talk about there. But, you know, great student debt and jobs plans, and whatever, and we make the case to the American people for which I think should certainly be part of twenty twenty. I mean, I I mostly mood. She said impeachment is never off the table. I think that you know, and and Adam Schiff last week right said, I'm. I'm not there yet on impeachment. But he might get me there. Bars misleading in lies the congress made them also mad. You never know what they're gonna do. And I think you're right. But she's making a political calculation. I think I think it's going to be like Nixon, but even worse in terms of the numbers. And then who knows what happens knows if the Republicans like my dad's running made say it's time for you to step down because you're going to take all down in twenty twenty. Here's the problem. If the numbers flip, here's the problem to looking at the Nixon analogy at the Nixon time, we all sort of worked with the same set of facts. Right, right. Yeah. We don't anymore. No, Fox News. And the and we didn't have one whole party. That was complicit we have area water's, right? We don't have that. I know. And there's we have is the house, and we just and we don't wanna lose it because we over step and over push impeachment before the country's ready. It's all we have. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's maybe what the plan is go. Look, we have no choice. We don't want to. But you have forced us. We city at the end of the day. We got we're either a nation. Of laws or not. We can't terrible position precedent where we go. Well, okay. You know, we're obviously we're in this terrible position. Because if we do nothing, we say, this is acceptable behavior. And if we do something, maybe we leave the house, and we're screwed right? Right. So were in this box. And all I think Pelosi saying is let's just walk this road a little bit and see where it takes us tried to get out of the box now, and I just have to respect that on throats because I don't see another approach. Yeah. No. I have. I mean, I just finally tweeted the mo- I have the utmost respect for her, you know, yet. And so. That's the thing. I don't wanna do Russia's work by democrat bashing and Pelosi bashing that that's right. But I do think people are just genuinely feeling the series of events legally just in the last few days, it's nine blowing to sign any one of them. Would if Obama dead wood. Oh, that's your head explode Hillary. They have. Okay. Well, what could get us to a Goldwater moment where where someone in the Republican party says, okay? You need to resign or you're going to be impeached. If the cowards if the numbers flipped to the degree, the I it's all about numbers. I think you're right. It's that I was hoping it would be a factual point. But it's not it's legal. It's yeah. Point. Let's talk about you. Reading through your very very impressive resume. By the way, what are confrontational interviewing techniques as lawyer? Those are the interviews that you do with somebody who's just committed a murder or just home be a police officer who's just beaten somebody or a clan member. And you're having you're not is one kind of interviews. Like, oh, what happened? You know, when you're on the corner of seventh and vine, and then there's the we now we know you committed this murder, and you're trying to flip them you four kids. I picture your like comma Harris when they came in the middle of the night. I will say I think having fourteen agers is great training for lawyering. If only I had I been the mom and then the prosecutor, but I didn't have the patience as young woman. But anyway. Yeah. Needs fourteen as Karl Harrison. I just picture, right? Oh, where have you been till three him? Yes. Or no, sir. Where were you drinking that drinking? Yes, or no surf movie snitty. Yeah. World what all the source that you go through for drinking drinking? We having a beverage some scissor up. Yes. There was a beer was wine hill. That's my that's my comma Harris Quinn. Okay. I just looked like lost my glasses. I'm just terrifying. But okay. All right. So here back to that to you Mary to Steve McMahon democratic strategist four daughters while while while all in college, all income all in college. Dog lover certified teacher longtime season ticket holder for Washington Capitals hockey fan. Oh, I don't know. I grew up with the French connection on the buffalo. Sabres? Oh, you know, she'll. Doc Martine Rennie row bath and this morning amid a reference I sedan nice save Chevrolet member. He was the goalie on Chicago. Okay. I'm just talking hockey to you. I'm trying to connect. I'm very sad. Season. We had an okay season. But last year we won the Stanley Cup. Oh, and then we lost our coach all very sad. And now we have this coaches himself. Nice fellow. But he's also kind of thumb and thumb to my kids. Call somebody just kinda hanging out. Awesome. Doesn't Honey boo. Boos mom'll quick thumb. Yes. Yeah. William thumb now. He's a Mark. The middle finger. Anyway. So I haven't gotten over it. No. So you this is why you're here because you're picking the one dollar up from UC, my modern then tomorrow, I go to Wake Forest and that up daughter. My brother went to school one degree of sin the separation now, I was telling you I was at USC for the first time in quite some time. And I am a thousand now and I graduated in eighty three where to stop get the is. Yeah, I played grandma in Edward Albee's American dream there. You know what? And then I found that it was demolished in nineteen ninety. Yeah. Yeah. So that's when I realized that their parents would be too young to know what happened to those theatres. Okay. There's only I only recognize it Tommy Trojan into Heaney library. That's it. Otherwise, it's what Kanda it's all made of brain Eum. I don't know. My dorms gone is their college dorm. I don't know. It's gone. I don't I I don't know. So that must have been still tension with your daughter. She's coming out for the game. I'm like, Nope. Not sitting in your section. How can do? Yeah. Well, let me say on behalf of your daughter fight on our men fight on for victory. You UCLA? Let's try to remember who won less game. There. You knew confrontational interviewing sure. I don't I still don't know what that means. This thing with your fingers for you. I don't know what that means. Maybe looking other teams. What does it mean in the seventies? Probably not today today even do that anymore. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I remember I was telling my old USC stories that oh, they still do the horse the horse. I don't know where they go the horse horse. I don't know how you lot of hostility about. Yeah. Conflict about conflict. It's just ingrained. It's in my blood. Oh, anyway, the first time yelled, the horse, the horse, and you know, he came from Trojans comes riding out of the tunnel and the wiped out he and the horse both wiped out he fell off. And I'm like does that happen. Every time. Early. Not did apparently when they played UCLA this year. There we go hit some kind of buzzer for that. Okay. One last one. So do you. Remember tusk the song with USA marching band? The Fleetwood MAC song. Yeah. It only had it down. Don't tusk that was the only anyway. But what's her name Stevie nicks came for our halftime two to sing with USC ban are so rich. Yeah. She was anyway, she was she's plastered out of her mind. And so you know, binoculars, and I'm like why? So she's like stumbling around with a baton she wasn't relieving singing tells us about the pass out and somebody friend of mine from my dorm somehow was on was that on the field. Whether I was like, what is quite Bruns doing with Stevie nicks yard line, somehow, she disliked grabbed her she stick a ran into her in lake mix was so plastered. She just grabbed my friend for my dorm, just pull up all right? That's it. Tusk? All right. I could just now. Now, I'm just trying to piss her off. I'm just trying to. Interviewing. Okay. All right, Cynthia. I don't know what. Okay. I think we all agree. You know what? I mean. That's the thing. That's the parole agree that this is completely don't even a word for it. Is it unprecedented? It's just we've run out of adjectives. Yeah. What? Okay. So when you read the report because I'm just, you know, it's dense you read it or I mean. But what I I'm not a lawyer. And I'm just like read Vance. But it does read like a novel, right? It's kind of surprising, actually. But yes to kind of think about page after page and being sure you're checking those footnotes all kinds of information everywhere. Someone said it is like that. It's like fire inferior the Woodward book. But better, right. I mean, and that's why we have to America needs a TV show. We got to put it on TV because people really should read it because you're right. It's. Listen to it on audio book because veiled in audio form, even more confusing. Really like someone read it without having the records to the footnote whatnot. Yeah, I find I tried to read it online the first day came out. Yeah. And it was too hard to read I had to print out go to happy little Staples. And have it bound because flip back and forth, flip back and forth. Yeah, it is. Isn't it? The number one book it was number one book on the Neons bestseller list last week. So that's why I'm confused of the numbers of how many people read it if. Yeah, I mean, I don't know take lots of number one. Because we don't read we're okay. Okay. But when you first of all what is with this fucking room about the candidate a sitting president. Why it's just it's just a rule. It's like, you know, does not dish. Is it? I'm not your mother like in your company. Not surprising. The the during the Nixon years. Yeah. Nixon had the attorney general right? Something about whether or not he could be indicted, and oh he decided he couldn't act you could be but Nixon couldn't that's where it all started. This oil see rule all started. Okay. So it was a directive by Nixon to find out. Yeah. That's how it started. It's been revised. But that's where it started. So that's back to where we we began the conversation. It may be that we have to do is flush out not through a couple of mid level. Justice department employs about why the rule ought to be. But we ought to have a real conscious decision making process about what is the. Rule. How are we gonna handle that because there is an important point? If you indict the president while he's in office is very hard to run the country. That's wouldn't shouldn't be able to indict but not prosecute till he's out of office. So that the slow that doesn't run. Well, the statute should be told. The statute of limitations should be told while you're in office. But that's an illegal argument not anything that's written down. So maybe that's the other answer is. Okay. If you're if while, you're an office, all stature limitations are told maybe that ought to be a law instead of something that we're gonna have to argue about later with Trump. Okay. Donald Trump shoots Jimmy cost on Fifth Avenue to death. What happens asking someone? This means a president can do anything and not be indicted. Right right now. That's what it means. Wow. That does not seem right. It does not seem right? I mean, that's what the that is what the policy of the department of Justice is right now, he cannot be indicted. That's insane. Okay. Well, all right. Are you confident we're going to have a free and fair election in twenty twenty. I I have to say the section of the mullahs report that I'm reading most carefully is the sections where they're talking about how the Russians actually got into county, boating. Aw. Yeah. That's what I'm most about in Florida and nila. And our voting machines are so antiquated, and and the as far as I can tell we're not doing very much about it that to me is what is most worrisome and people say, oh, if we have paper ballots, good back-up. I don't know if that's true. If if you put the information in the machine and it pushes out a paper about the back if the machine is corrupt wise in the paper ballot. So I'm that's to me is the most worrisome. Chris Nielsen wanted to do something about it. But Trump told her not to or so she says, well, that's what she says. Or it's just not injury. Exactly have a commitment to the truth. Yeah. No, exactly. She does have a commitment to getting those puppies to finish making that coat. Yeah. What? Oh, yeah. Find it. Okay. What was I going to? Okay. Are. Let's let's talk about you again, where did you grow which thinking about? Now. Where'd you grow up? I grew up. My dad was a professor so we were bit of gypsies in the beginning. And then I went to junior high school high school in the Hoya. Oh, that's to call. Right. Across the street by God. And then I went to UCLA for two years. Okay. And then I went to work for teddy. Kennedy. How old I am. When he ran in seventy nine, and then I finished at GW. And then I came home and went to law school at USD university. I'll wow. Okay. And who did you meet my nemesis de McMahon? I met Steve McMahon. When I was as an attorney general in Texas for mad dog Maddux. Wow. You out. Yeah. And we've been married twenty six years. Wow, congratulate. She's no I'm happy for her. And so you have a daughter Yale daughter USC daughter way week and a daughter Ilan okay in well. So an all my God. So all college age. Wow. Yeah. Good thing. Your Bank those big bucks man it is daunting daunting. But we tell me get a college education as an smile, and that's it. Yeah. Would you think of the whole college scandal the net had to piss you off? Right. Well, it's you know, what's amazing about it. Is it wasn't enough to cheat to get your kid into college? You had to set up a system. So that you could deduct it to that to me was the shocking. I mean, people have been cheating to get into college for a long time eighty I made a lot of money on the crew team. Donating for a library or whatever. But having to set it up as a five. Oh, one C three. That's just really over the line. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Because we were you know. I mean, my parents every thought of something like that, you know, I mean just that level of. I just 'cause you're like their kids that didn't get in because of that. Right. Right. But when we were kids you got in. I mean, I I wanted to see Eli. So I filled out the application. I went to I mean. Yeah, it's just a dramatically different world when we went. Yeah. Fifty bucks. I got into USC my parents couldn't afford it. So went to Zona state university got bind there, but I Don to USC I got into Stanford of my dad thought was expensive. So I had to go to my dad was thinking. Joke ended up being on him. Anyway, so are happily married twenty six years brilliant daughters, like you, you're obviously genetically superior as is Steve McMahon. I'm guessing he's a democratic strategist. He is he has he were longtime. Kennedy guy did Howard dean's presidential. And now he has a company. He's a democrat, obviously blue is a company with a red Republican herbal strategies red blue make purple cool do crisis management communications up. She's so sweet she's not she had to explain to me, red and blue purple, okay? Due punditry work on. He's smart. Yeah. Yeah. I would imagine what did you when I think behind the orange curtain. I think Republican did you have Republican family or no I had a had the only McGovern family in the Hoya. Conservative era McGovern PB if somebody has to beat by the way, by by the way, I was going to say was somebody tweeted, I can't remember, you know, all the details. But that's one thing. That's why I've been very careful about not just that. I personally really admire Nancy Pelosi, but just I don't want to play into the Russians game of us d you know, there's another Democrats in disarray story or Democrats divided. I mean, I think that it's so important words such a critical time, but someone was talking about going back to sixty eight they're like liberals do this to themselves all the time. It's not just now it's like, you know, McGovern wasn't peer enough for the liberal. So we got. Would you know what I mean, Nixon lake on down bushes to to Nixon to you know, to Hiller and Trump, right? Yeah. Yes. That's exactly why. Yeah. I'm like, oh, man, please we can't afford purity tests this time, we can't just I'm gonna crow about my parents from minute because we grew up in we lived in Richmond before Jim nation. Yeah. And when when the schools were desegregated, I went with a couple of our other Presbyterian friends to the the closest school to us, which was an all black school. And of course, there was white flight everywhere else, and my mom said up her own kindergarten. It was the first integrated kindergarten in the state of Regina while did teach integrated kindergarten radical, and then my parents. Left the local pool because they refused to allow blacks and set up an integrated PO they do as a team. So I come from a long line of. Oh, wow. Democratic activists. Yeah. Yeah. For you. What? Now, very proud of. What did you? Did you always know you want to be lawyer? Yes. Oh, you've really because this is what I tell my girls all the time. Being a lawyer is freedom. It means you can always take care of your family. Right. Means you're always could always find some work. And it means you can be taken seriously for a woman. It's Chit of freedom. Yeah. I would like my girls enough to have that. I don't want them to. Yeah. To have to ever depend on anybody for anything. I mean, my husband's great, and I'm really lucky, but I depend on. No one to hear my children. Yeah. What are they thinking about law? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My I think my oldest is going to go nothing. Some you're like you may want to be a lawyer. As you clink your glass. Oldest is going to work a campaign. We'll see she's working on that. Because she's about to graduate and the other three I think we'll go to school. Yeah. What was Ted Kennedy like to work for I had a great experience. I lived in Iowa and worked the Iowa caucuses. I lived with what I later found out to be was my now husband's aunt and uncle I didn't even know I met ten years later I met, but I live with his family and Iowa. Oh, very political people there idiological people very serious people and fun people lot ice cream politics that ice cream. Yeah. And that was fun. You know, you learn early knock on doors, and and meet people and talk to people I loved it. I had a great time in the Kennedy. What tell us tell us your love story. Will you met your husband? What happened? Where'd you? Meet sparks claim we met at the end of the Maddox campaign Maddox ran against Richards and students of history will know that mad dog Maddux went slightly crazy. Okay. And. So at the demise party, the only people who showed up me, and Steve because we were loyal. Oh, we've been married ever since just a couple of political earns. Really? Yeah. And you kissed your pocket protectors each other the end. Yeah. Gloss fell off. By your purse is the largest person ever seen with like every legal every case you've ever done in there. No, I have the mullahs report. Oh, okay. Not really. Yeah. Harry with you. I do I need it. Two. And I'm halfway done with pre bras book, which I had to put down because the Miller report. Yeah. And so I have that do, you know, a gay you 'cause you're kind of my deal. Blonde. And she's a nerd your nerd, your politic. Erred. All right, but packaged in a hot one. Okay. What's it like backstage at MSNBC and with all the legal, ladies all legal ladies in the green room. You guys all get along is they're fighting tell us there's no fighting. I you know, I spent the winner in Naples, so I've been kind of isolated I'm excited to get back to DC DC studio to get to hang with people. How they just they're all really smart. I know I love all y'all. Yeah. Yeah. They're all really smart and everybody likes to talk about it. And I may have some bag cheat on you all the time which you'll wind banks. My Wiley barbed of weighed. What about Mimi? I know we have to get me Miro Khan, can you hook us up. Yeah. She's great. Yeah. Really smart. See she was she likes to share me. She's fine. Yeah. She's like that. She was one of the one of the big forces behind circulating that letter. Okay. And Joyce Joyce is advance or yet. Joyce white Vance. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Everybody's fantastic. Yeah. Ari melber? I mean what a timely higher group. Yeah. I'm afraid of because I don't know anything about music. You're frayed of hip hop reference. He'll go what's your reference? I'll be like, I don't know say ring schools in Sokha. It's something from James Taylor song. I think it's going to go over very well. I love that. You're scared of anything seem fearless. A big hit on MSNBC the cavenaugh hearings. Where I I really noticed you like come out the gate there. Well, I was very funded by him. Yes. I love this just printed all these out. Now, that's old news. But just let you make every headline somebody going. Emerson Lee legal bar spying comments. He feels the need to curry favor with Trump. He's paid to say that about Allender show. What is this the? MSNBC hosts done by former prosecutors blistering assault on religion Giuliani. But that excuse for Shil. Balls out man, you say it how it is. L of these legal minds turned into weird twisted into weird pretzel shaped like Alan Dershowitz and always been that Giuliani. Reputation for this piece of hard to get what bar is one of the great mysteries like, Johnny. I guess I'm over the Juliani, Mr. he's just a loser. Why would bar do it? And I don't get that yet. I don't I don't see the motivation for the unitary executive theory. I mean what what can drive you make a contra go away. So it's not like we didn't see this coming and that legal memo addition memo the nineteen page thing when I didn't see it coming. I have to say I thought just because maybe I was blinded but by my own situation, but he was the when I was first hired at Justice. And so, you know, was an institutional place, and that's the way it was runner, blah, blah done, and I fell for it. Yeah. I'm the dummy. Yeah. Well, all right. I know I know because we think that they're still some there must be some guardrails on our constitutional balance. We we need to do is have a list. Okay. Where what what guardrails arena legislate? Yeah. And the only way to do that is to win the presidency and win the Senate. I mean, so there's a lot of work to be done. But we gonna turn out in such huge numbers because I know people are terrified about it being a fair election. I think to a lot of people to hire. At least DOJ gerrymandering decision in Ohio. Thank god. We still have some courts some checks and balances holding where they're like, no this is cheating. You are. This is another way Republicans gerrymandering voter suppression. Russia voter suppression is the most offensive can I ask another thing? Isn't it in the Muller report? They they also had the RNC what I mean what happened to that stuff. And is that part of why they're so complicit that they're also I don't know. You know, what's the great mystery that for me that I'm lacking is the information. About what happened in Cambridge Analytica? Yes. That to me is the big question that I don't know the answer to because they obviously got gall. This polling data, right? Yeah. And then the question is what they gave it to Kalinic and what did the Russians exactly do with that? That's not as clear to me. And. What what did Kushner do with data at Cambridge Analytica? And where did he expect that to go? And and how how what about WikiLeaks and Roger stone like what it Wendy's going to learn more about the trials summer. Yeah. One. Yeah. And isn't it clear done junior must be under one of those reactions? I yes, I think the big actually I was one of their big fights is I think the president took the fifth that. Yes, I agree with them. Get older boy drums. She's gonna say. Thirteen to get it out read it to you nerd, no. I totally. Become your from your law purse over there. Yeah. Filing cabinet. Well, it is that's my rolling shoulder strap. What else in the mall report? I mean in terms of at because I'm just I one care. I mean, we've got to get the you promised goats scale the walls of the Justice department. We've got you suction cups and get the full section. The big talker on prime has a delay occur. What do you think's gonna happen without getting the full unredacted Muller? Eventually, we get it. Yeah. It all comes out of intially. Yeah. That's what I think. Right. But the thing I get wrong all the time. But the ark of justices long, but it bends toward there was a story. I saw last night. And no one's really talked about yet, a buzz feed got a. Yeah. A new version of the Mola report that has more notes on the reductions because their channel they're challenging under freedom of information act about that one yet. No. But it doesn't surprise me. I have to believe that. Yeah. That the what he call. It are the arc of Justice bends towards some Justice. Right. Okay. Great history. This has been fantastic. Is there anything else? Inappropriate uncensored you like to say not this time. No, your lawyer. For snitty, women everywhere. We we thank you for your work for America. Get that report. Now, you need to get her suction cups. Come and she has a German shepherd. We learned wanna know what dog lovers the great. I take the oath films G O. She is real it's weird. How dogs? No. You know, who who do you need to be with? And she just goes sits big dogs. She should get your dog to this. Because big dogs are the best to take these Alzheimer's facilities because people in wheelchairs can reach them. All. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they they do use pierces. I bet they do. Because there's yeah there. She guardians as well. The yard. They'll heard you would you like that? I would like I have no issue of silica. She winked. Scampi side. That's on. We love you. Thanks for coming in for having me, happy happy hour. She didn't swear once back. All right. We love you sit. The ox ni lady.

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Former vice president Joe Biden goes on camera to say he'll be more mindful about respecting personal space is that a signal that Biden will jump into the twenty twenty race flip and flop President Trump zig zig zags zigzag again on healthcare and immigration peppering, his explanations with a series of misstatements false claims and outright lies. Why wouldn't even lie about his father's birthplace and full house too? Big house mustard Mon to celebrity actresses appear in court in the scandal of parents accused of cheating and bribery to get their children into a leak colleges. Could they face obscene? Prison time. I'm wolf Blitzer. You're in the situation room. This is CNN. Breaking news breaking news hostile crafts have new weapons in their showdown with the Trump administration of growing arsenal of subpoenas. The judiciary committee along party lines has authorized the use of a subpoena to pressure. The Justice department to turn over the full unredacted Muller report, along with all the underlying evidence also approved subpoenas for five former White House visuals, you Democrats say are instrumental investigating possible abuses and a day after issuing a subpoena in a probe of White House security clearances the house oversight committee, chairman says he'll send one to the president's former accounting firm, not says agreed to turn over financial documents off speak with the house majority leader democratic congressman, Steny Hoyer, and our correspondents and analysts. They will have full coverage of the day's top stories, let's begin with our senior congressional correspondent mono Rajoub amount of Democrats are showing. Going off their power ahead of likely class. We could Trump administration. What is the latest? Yeah. House judiciary? Chairman Jerry Nadler is now armed with the subpoena. As he demands the mullahs report to be provided fully to the House Judiciary committee and for the underlying evidence to provide to this committee as well. He is saying he will not accept any redaction this after the attorney general Bill Barr had said that several areas of redaction would be forthcoming Queen grand jury information, including any names of individuals who are not indicted. This is not sufficient to Democrats who say they are prepared to issue that subpoena if they are not didn't get compliance with the Justice department now just earlier today wolf, I had a chance to talk to Jerry Nadler, and the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee who are coming at this from opposite sides, Jerry Nadler says he will not negotiate with the Justice department and Lindsey Graham, the chairman of the of the Senate Judiciary committee says he does not want to see the unredacted report. He says he'll trust Bill bar. You willing to negotiate any middle ground in terms of Dakshin 's of them, you're not no the committee must see everything as was done in. Every prior instance, the committee is entitled and must see all the material and make judgments as to what can be redacted for the public release by ourselves. We're not willing to let the attorney general who after all is a political appointee of the president make that substitute his judgment for hours want the bar. Come before the committee made the first and present three four nine. Grand jury information is classified information. I don't need to look at a million documents just tell us about three four that's unredacted. You don't want to see the unredacted. No. It's still unclear exactly what the Justice department will do. They are declining to comment today. But with Jerry Nadler also told me wolf is that he is prepared to go to court demand. Also, the grand jury information people who testified before the mother grand jury, they say they have crested in on their side. They cite pass cases. Like Watergate the Ken Starr investigation, which the House Judiciary committee. Did get information. Like that. I said are you willing to go to court to get that information? If you don't get support from the Justice department, Jerry Nadler's at absolutely so they're gearing up Wolfer protracted hor fight about getting all this information still unclear what they're just department decides to do we'll find out soon enough, the house oversight committee German Elijah Cummings today said he plans to continue going after the president's finances is personal finances is business finances. What have you learned on that front? Yeah. Logic Cummings told me earlier today that he plans to issue a subpoena to the firm Masar. USA that is a firm that this committee has sent a letter to to ask for ten years of financial statements of from the president is the front of the president used to use for actually useful between twenty through twenty thirteen. And this I came up during Michael Cohen's testimony before the house oversight committee in that testimony. You'll recall Michael Cohen alleged that the president inflated his assets and his in mischaracterize his debts as he tried to put forward to an offer for pert to purchase the Buffalo Bills football table if your favorite football team, but the Cummings has asked this firm wolf, whether or not the president misstated his assets and debts on a number of issues, including whether he omitted real estate assets as well. Now, what Cummings told me is that this farm has said that they will provide this information if they do get a subpoena. What? Cummings is calling a friendly subpoenas. So they plan to issue the subpoena in a matter of days, and they expect compliance will see what they learn. I do remember when then citizen Donald Trump was trying to buy the Buffalo Bills Amano. Thank you very much for that report. President Trump meanwhile has been on a world wind flips and flops as he changes historian on various issues, including healthcare and immigration sprinkling is explanations with plenty of false claims. Let's go to our White House. Correspondent abbie. Phillip bell abbey. What is the latest well wolf, President Trump appears to be making a hard pivot to the policy issues that he believes will dominate the twenty twenty presidential election. But the problem is there have been several days of head-spinning shifts in his rhetoric, and it seems that President Trump himself can't seem to settle on what his political strategy actually is. President Trump trying to pivot to healthcare ahead of the twenty twenty elections but struggling to get his story straight. So we're going to give a great healthcare plan, and we're going to go and campaign of that plan. Trump now claiming in a tweet that he was never planning a vote prior to the twenty twenty election on Republican health care proposal to replace the Affordable Care Act known as ObamaCare just one day after saying this about his decision to punt. I wanted to delay myself. I wanna put it after the election because we don't have the house Trump acknowledging that he didn't consult GOP leaders on Capitol Hill before declaring that Republicans would be the party of healthcare. You're gonna win your elections because the healthcare and a lot of people were upset with because I announced this like a week ago. And I didn't wanna waste my time by calling people I didn't want to call the leaders other than Kevin it'd be afraid not cocoa. I blame Michelle a little bit. But now, they love it. Meantime after days of threatening mex-. Geico, Mexico is going to have to do something. Otherwise, I'm closing the border. I'll just slowed us the border Trump now laying the blame for crisis at the border at the feet of congress. And warning that if Democrats don't change immigration laws the border or large sections of border will close all this as the president's falls in outlandish claims seem to reach a new high watermark during a speech open to the media that he seemed to think was off the record somebody's going to leak this whole damn speech to the media. The president returning to unproven theories about widespread voter fraud. There were a lot of close elections that were they seem to every single one of them went democrat. If it was close, they say the democrat with this something going on and mocking a possible. Twenty twenty rival former vice president Joe Biden seeming to make light of the complaints by some women that Biden touched them inappropriately. But not sexually. I said general curriculum kiss. I felt like Joe Biden. But I meant it. See I meant it. Big difference going to say welcome to the world. Joe? You have a good time. Joe? You have a good time at one point Trump falsely claiming this about windmills if you have a wind anywhere near your house. Congratulations. You have just went down seventy five percent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer that comment leaving even Trump aids. Confused, the wind turbines cause cancer, I don't have an answer in that for the third time in less than a year. He says his father who was born in New York was born in Germany. My father is German right was German and born in a very wonderful place in Germany, the White House. Not even bothering to explain that. And wolf these are just some of the many false claims the president has made just in the last week alone. But it's notable that the White House has not even bothered to correct? The record on any of them. They seem comfortable adding it to the nearly ten thousand falsehoods that President Trump has told since coming into office more than two years ago. According to the Washington Post fact checker wolf fill up at the White House. Thanks very much. There's more breaking news. We're following after several women have complained. He made them feel uncomfortable. Even as other women have rallied to his defence former vice president Joe Biden has released a new video promising to change his ways are political reporter are life size is joining us here in the situation room. How significant is this new video message? Well, well, this is a clear acknowledgement from Joe Biden have a soft that his previous statements on this issue just weren't enough that he is showing that he understands the gravity of this moment and one person that I spoke to you that's close to bite. It said that the former vice president wanted to provide some more context. Acts and explain a little bit more. Why hand two racks the way that he does with Motors and also make it clear that he gets it. He knows what the current environment is like take less than twenty. You kinda change and the bounty protected personal space have been reset. I guess I get I hear what they're saying. I understand it. And I'll be much more mindful, my responsibility, my responsibility, and I'll leave it. But I always believe covering quite frankly life for that matter is about Kennedy connecting with people that will change. From people's personal space. So Biden there was making it clear that he is going to be more aware of his behavior going forward. He had friends and former advisors encouraging him over the past two days to make more of a statement even had house speaker Nancy Pelosi saying that he should join the straight arm club in the way, he interacts with people. But one question going forward is is this going to be enough for his critics, and are you going to have Democrats and even President Trump as you heard earlier going after him for a clear sign he's going to be running for election. Joining the campaign the release of this video are left. Thank you very much. Joining us now the hospital, Jordan litter democratic congressman Steny Hoyer of Maryland. Thanks so much leader for joining us. You bet. Well, thank you, are you satisfied with Joe Biden's response today is video message involving these allegations a thick it recognizes the sensitivity and the importance it is to make sure that as he said people space and feelings are honored and considered. Make sure that we don't violate those. So I think. Vice president reflected that in his video. I think reflected in his remarks, and I think he's going to go forward would that. Let's move on to our other top stories. How long do you believe congress should wait before actually serving the subpoenas for the entire unredacted Muller report and all the underlying evidence? I don't have a specific timeframe Wilfired. Clearly, we need to give. A reasonable time to to look at the report, but the congress moded without opposition the house of representatives voted without opposition resolution that asks that the full report be not only given to the congress, but be made available to the American public. So they can read it and make their own evaluation. The only thing we really have is a four page letter from attorney general bar who of course was hired by Donald Trump's. So that we need the full report. I think the congress made that very clear, and I'm hopeful that we will get the full report made available to us in the American people within the near term. Now, you timeframe certainly a couple of weeks ought to be enough time to go through it. And make sure that they are doing what the law requires them to do. You're okay. If they redact some sections like involving national security classified information sources and methods or would you be okay? If they they redact all the grand jury information as well. Look, I I don't know what's in there. So when you say all of those items. Certainly I understand that there will be some legal requirement for them to protect some of that information. However, what I will not be satisfied with and went to congress and the American people on not to be satisfied with if in fact, the redaction is such that the sense and purpose and conclusions of the investigators is not known to the American public. They need to make that decision. Are you? Okay. With lawmakers negotiating with the Justice department over reductions to the report before actually handing down serving and he subpoenas. No, I think that the subpoenas are the judiciary committee wants to get those out and wants to get their oversight responsibilities proceeding. But I think certainly we're going to have to look at the report, and what we get before we do anything specifically with respect to the report are Democrats in danger, Mr. leader of overreaching with all these investigations involving the president. Now, I don't I don't think we're in danger of overreaching, but I want I want to emphasize wolf is that we're concentrating on that, which I'm which we campaign with the American public in particular, we're focused on healthcare. We think the healthcare the Affordable Care Act is a critical issue in this country. Your report that preceded me was at the embitterment and contradictions and that the president is pursued saying that he wants to have a healthcare Bill as he said during the campaign that was very good. Healthcare Bill that covered everybody about by the way, he's not going to tell us what it is until twenty twenty one after the election, and that's because they don't have a plan, and we're focused. We had hearings today on some nine bills. We're going to have markups. On those bills. Matter of fact, we have markups. On those bills. We're going to be proceeding to make sure that not just the twenty million people who got were advantaged by the portable care in the Medicaid recipients. But actually, the hundreds of millions of people who are affected by the protections in the Affordable Care Act against being denied insurance because of preexisting conditions. We think that's critically important who are protected from having their healthcare cancelled. Or annual caps or lifetime caps on what could be reimbursed for the healthcare those protections. Are we think are critical removing ahead on those? We also think wages infrastructure. Planet change all that we are currently having hearings on so yes, the subpoenas get a lot of publicity. But the real work of what we campaign on is being done is being reported to the floor. We did pay equity. Make sure women are paid equally as the law. Requires today. We're we're considering that violence against women reauthorization, which should have been reauthorized in Alaska was not we're doing that. So we're moving ahead with the people's work, and the the oversight responsibilities can go parallel to that. I know you have to go vote one very quick question. We'll give you willing to work with the Republicans, including the president between now and the election in twenty twenty to improve the Affordable Care Act ObamaCare as it's known to try to find some improvements. Because clearly, I'm sure you agree. It's not perfect. I think the A I agree. It's not perfect. We've always agreed that it wasn't perfect. And the answer to your question is yes. I think we willing to work with the administration and with our Republican colleagues in the house and the Senate to make improvements that are necessary and would be good for the American people. I don't think we've ever been in in any different position wolf. We've anywhere. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks a lot next house. Democrats get new weapons in in a showdown with the Trump administration approving a subpoena for the full Muller report and preparing another to get President Trump's financial records and CNN learns the FBI is now investigating the weekend security breach at the president's mar-a-lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida to determine if it was an attempt at espionage. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Xeni optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Zanny dot com. With the latest trends in eyewear available in hundreds of frame styles and materials there isn't a better way to change it up for every season. Plus is any offers prescription sunglasses at incredible prices. Visit Xeni today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. That's Z E N N, I dot com slash CNN. Learned the FBI is investigating the weekend security, breach of President Trump's mar-a-lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida looking to see if it was a tempted, espionage, the woman was carrying Chinese passports, multiple cell phones, laptop could computer and ominously. Thumb drive described court documents as containing malicious, malware, let's bring in our Justice correspondent, Jessica Schneider. Jessica first of all, what are you learning about this woman? The suggested the allegation is she could be a Chinese spy. Well, that's exactly what we've now learned the FBI is looking into. So we've learned that the FBI is investigating this mar-a-lago incident for the possibility that this could be sincere espionage effort, and that is of course, a precaution that they have to take because this is a foreign national and it raises concerns about counterintelligence also cybersecurity. So right now using Jiang. We know that she is being detained at the Palm Beach county jail. She'll be there until at least Monday. And that's when a judge will decide whether or not she's going to remain. Detain. That's at a court appearance on Monday. But there's really a lot that we don't know about Jiang. She showed up at mar-a-lago with these two Chinese passports. She gained entry not through one but two checkpoints by the secret service. And it wasn't until she got to that main reception area that the receptionist raise the red flag on her. But there are some real problem areas with Jiang, the first of all the first thing is that she had this stash of electronics on her wolf she had four cell phones. One laptop computer one external hard drive and that one thumb drive that contained that militias malware. In addition when she was finally taken off the property and subsequently interviewed by these secret service agents, she told them that she was sent there from Shanghai to Palm Beach. She was told by this so called Charles via this chat application that she should go there and try to meet with members of the president's family. So these are two real concerns of possibly part of this investigation. And we also know that some top Democrats are now. Raising concerns. They've sent this letter to the FBI asking FBI director Ray and the FBI to assess the security situation out mar-a-lago, and they're also putting it this way Senator Chuck Schumer as well as Diane Feinstein and Mark Warner saying this we ask that you determine in consultation with the secret service the steps needed to detect and deter adversary governments or their agents from attempting to gain access to or conduct electronic surveillance or choir material out mar-a-lago or President Trump's other properties. So obviously a real concern here both from congress. And now, we know the FBI investigating this as a possible espionage effort. How is the secret service explaining this apparent security breach? It's really interesting in their very lengthy statement here. The secret service really highlights what a difficult job it is to safeguard mar-a-lago. This is a place that doubles both as a private club for members as well as the president's perferred retreat on these weekends in the winter. Down at mar-a-lago. So the secret service, they put out this statement. And they made it clear that the secret service. It self does not determine who is invited or welcomed into mar-a-lago that is the job of mar-a-lago management. But secret service did say, look we had these two perimeters these two checkpoints one at the perimeter. And then once you've yet in tomorrow Longo, so the secret service saying that they're doing their job here. But again wolf congress is demanding some answers here we've seen that letter to FBI director Ray from those top Democrats in the Senate, and we also know that chairman Cummings of the oversight committee along with Jim Jordan and the top Republican they'll be getting a grief briefing by secret service tomorrow. And now Adam Schiff also will be getting a briefing from the FBI while she was walking around mar-a-lago. We know the president. He was staying there for the weekend. But he happened to be away from earlier plane go in West Palm Beach that has golf club of the first lady was there at mar-a-lago. Jessica thank you very much without report coming up democratic lawmakers are using their new powers to investigate the president. Will they get? Information plus former vice president Biden's new video signal. He's definitely running in twenty twenty. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. We're following multiple breaking stories, including a new threat by congressional Democrats issue subpoenas demanding information about President Trump's finances in this comes in the wake of the House Judiciary committee approving Cepeda to get the full Muller report unredacted, let's bring in our political and legal analysts and discuss these various legal fights dente bash the factors that the Democrats are using now as they waiting what to do next the threat against the Trump administration is pretty significant with all these subpoenas on the verge of being issued. They are. But with with regard to the mullahs report, it's obviously more tactical than anything else because this is something that the attorney general himself has made clear that he is likely to release publicly and so what they're doing is trying to day the Democrats are trying to position themselves. So that if that doesn't happen. They are kind of on terra firma legally. To get ready to fight it in the supreme court. They don't really think that that's going to have to happen. That's the honest truth, but they want to be prepared to do it. And also, politically speaking it, you know, they have the majority they have the subpoena power. Why not use it just to be prepared to be ready? I agree with Dan. Look, I think it ratchets up the pressure on bar or so they think I'm not sure that it does. And these are kind of preemptive subpoenas. Then you know, and they're they're doing it so bars put on notice. Now, I have to say that Muller is sitting on bars shoulder as he goes through all of this. And I find it difficult to believe that Muller wasn't aware when he was writing this report that it could become public someday. So I'm not sure how much is in their side from grand jury testimony in the addendum that that that there could be fights over. But you know, I just think they wanna say bar. Look, we're gonna do this. If you don't. Surprise, you that the chairman of the Senate Judiciary committee, Lindsay Graham, told our motto Rajoub up on Capitol Hill that he really doesn't want to see the full Muller reported trusts. The attorney general Bill bar whatever he wants to redact for whatever reason is fine with him. Because this is the Lindsey Graham of we know now, which is Lindsey Graham who basically is fully supportive of this president in a way that he obviously wouldn't be if it was a different president of a different party. He basically is of the bar position. Which is that a report can be released, but transparency only up to a point right? That redact the national security up passages in in the peace and also anything that has to do with grand jury testimony. So it isn't surprising that he's taking that position. You've seen some other Republicans take that position to certainly the ones on that panel of had voted against the majority coming out of the house, the Nadler committee. So it's not surprising. And we also knew that eventually this probably would work its way through the court and also be very partisan. Fight is this Jeffrey Toobin the right moment for the Democrats to test their new subpoena power now that they're the majority in the house of representatives. Absolutely. What's the alternative to to ask very very nicely? I mean, there's just no point in being in the majority. If you want information other than to issue a subpoena. It's not a declaration of war. It is simply the application of a power that is assigned to the congress, and it will be one part of the effort to get to get to this document weather com. Whether the White House will even respond to the subpoena, and what is the result of a court fight. I don't think anyone knows. I certainly don't know. I think this is this would be an untested legal area. But there's really no excuse for congress not to try, and they're trying to certainly are data on another issue of the vice former vice president Joe Biden, these responded to these allegations from these. That he made them feel uncomfortable. He issued a video response. Earlier today watch this from Warners and began to change and abounded protected personal face and said. And. I guess I get I hear what they're saying. I understand it. And I'll be much more mindful. That's my responsibility, my responsibility, and I'll be, but I'll always believe covering and questioned cling life for that matter is about connecting about connecting with people that will change from people's personal space, and that's good. That's a good. What do you make of that? That isn't bad as twenty twenty literate as somebody like Joe, Biden could possibly be when I say somebody like Joe Biden somebody who has he explains in that video has been around of bury long time and learn the ways of Washington in politics when it was about backslapping, and obviously the way that it has been perceived by people like Lucy Flora's, and others is much more than backslapping it has been perceived through the lens of the metoo era. So this is probably the most extreme example of the apology tour that all of these democratic candidates that we've seen go through have done it and the most necessary just the words that he was saying, but also the optics of it. Casual in obviously, trying to do it in a way. That's on somebody's boned. It's not a high production value. You know? No, no, no tie sitting back and find a look relaxed the whole package was something that I think, you know, he's obviously or into people around him. He's trying to get a hold of this narrative, and he went pretty far and doing borrowed language from anti plant six eight. I mean, she essentially scripted this video because what she said. Yes. Her singles day. I little space is important cut it out. How about a handshake? You don't to a hug, folks? What my goodness it took them with longtime to get here. I mean, if you think about this story broke on Friday you had Friday Saturday Sunday Monday, you had I think two statements from his spokesperson. And this was the second statement from from Joe Biden you so as he runs this is a whole different news today yet. If he rents, but he's running he said misstatement folks in the coming months, I'm expecting to be talking to you about a whole lot of issue. Yeah. What does that mean? It means. It means that he's running that the thing that they did not do. And it was clearly on purpose is that they didn't have Biden sit down with somebody to answer questions about this or hold some kind of oppressive AL ability. They decided to put him in front of a camera in the way that Dan was saying and sort of an informal way and try to bridge the generational gap by saying and now it's all about taking sell fees together. You know, he said I grew up in a generation where you hugged each other and put hands on your shoulders etcetera etcetera. Now, it's about selfish, and I get this. And I'll I'll change the one thing. I would I would say is it none of these women have accused Biden sexual harassment Dave accused him of invading their race. And what he said is, you know, that's a good thing. And I can I. Can change that. And you know, we'll just we'll just have to see, but he is going to be asked about it. And they know that when she starts doing interviews which is not doing right now. We'll see what happens guys stick around. This more news. We're following defendants including prominent actresses had to court hearings on the college entrance cheating scandal. There are new developments that. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke jokin seen. We are the producers behind the H HSEN television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James de Angelo, the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. We're following new developments in the scandal involving parents accused of cheating and bribery to have their children admitted to elite colleges and universities to celebrity actresses were among the defendants who went to court today. CNN Erica hill is following the story for us. Erica, tell us more. Yeah. Wolf Huffman in Laughlin, just two of the thirty three parents who are charged in total. And it today's initial appearance they acknowledged their rights the charges and the maximum possible penalties and wolf jail time is a real possibility. Avoiding I contact. Actress Felicity Huffman arriving at court hours before her scheduled appearance. She's accused of paying fifteen thousand dollars to a college prep business to Dr her daughter's college admission test scores actress Laurie Laughlin seen signing autographs at the airport Tuesday morning before smiling and greeting fans as she made her way through the crush of cameras in to court both actresses facie between six and twenty one months in prison. One law enforcement official telling CNN prosecutors are expected to ask for jail time for every defended sending a clear message. There will be no special treatment. These parents are a catalog of wealth and privilege for every student admitted through fraud, and honest genuinely talented student was rejected. Prosecutors say Laughlin in her husband fashion, designer Maasim emoji newly paid half a million dollars to get their daughters into USC as recruits on the crew team. That neither participated in the sport. Lavin's husband allegedly Email pictures of his daughters on indoor rowing machines to create fake athletic profiles, payments, were disguised as charitable donations. According to the complaint. Hello, everybody before the scam was exposed their younger daughter offered. Her thoughts on college to her nearly two million YouTube followers, and I'm going to go in and talk to my deans, and everyone hope that I can try and balance it all, but I do want the experience of like game days partying. I don't really care about school major brands, including Sephora and HP severed ties with the nineteen year old. And with her mother Laughlin was also dropped by the hallmark channel asked about her co co-star earlier this week Candace Cameron beret, offering support to Laughlin we are family. Then we stand by each other and pray for each other. And will always be there for your in the three weeks since federal prosecutors announced their findings four of the fifty p. Charge have pleaded guilty, including mastermind Rick singer until the judge I created a side door that would guarantee families would get in in some cases coaches were bribed, including former Yale women's soccer coach Rudi Meredith. Both men are now cooperating witnesses alone with Mark Redel who cheated for students on their ACT's and SAT's John van de more the former sailing coach at Stanford also pleaded guilty according to the latest filing. At least one pair who allegedly tried to get his son into USC as a water polo player is now in talks with the government. And the investigation isn't over a law enforcement official familiar with the probe telling CNN more arrests are expected and could include students. Meantime, the department of education has opened its own investigation as schools try to control the damage Yale rescinded the admission of a student whose parents paid one point two million dollars to singer. They are. Not named in the complaint. Well, USC tells CNN any applicants connected to the scheme would be denied admission they've identified six. Democratic lawmakers in California also proposing changes, including a ban on preferential admissions for donors and alumni evaluating the phase out of the SAT and ACT exams and regulating private admissions consultants. And we should also note CNN has reached out to representatives for Huffman Laughlin, ingenuity wolf, we have not heard back. Reporting for us Erica, thanks very much coming up a closer look at what may be behind President Trump's repeated and blatant false claims even about his father's birthplace. The cases we got a five who wrote this note, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which close when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifle, and which man was telling the truth for renchik files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your forensic fix. President Trump often tells flat out lies perhaps for some presumed political gain but over the past twenty four hours east drunk together. A series of falsehoods misstatements and even wildlife's lies for no apparent reason at all including an absurd claim about his father's birthplace. Brian Todd has been digging into all of this forest. Brian, what are you learning? Well, if we have put together several instances where President Trump has told this same specific lie about his father's birthplace, we've found it's part of a pattern from Trump not just lying for political gain. Not simply getting his facts wrong. But lying to win over the people who happened to be right in front of him. The president makes a claim about his family history, which we presume he has to know isn't true. My father is German right was German and born in a a very wonderful place in Germany, I so I have a great feeling for Germany. It's well established that President Trump's father. Fred was born in the Bronx in one thousand nine hundred five a Trump adviser defended the president telling CNN, quote, Obama thought we had fifty seven states sometimes mistakes happen. But this isn't the first time Trump has made this claim I have great respect for Germany by fathers from Germany w have both my parents were born in EU sectors. Okay. I mean, my mother was Scotland my father was Germany. Trump's mother Marianne was born in Scotland his paternal grandfather was born in Germany, Trump has a pattern of making not just misstatements where he simply has his facts wrong. It took eleven months to build the Empire State building. But stay. Which are outlandishly untrue. If you if you have a windmill anywhere near your house. Congratulations. You have just went down seventy five percent in value. And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one. Okay. Air one example of a blatant lie this year, the Trump administration ravaged the budget of a project called the Great Lakes restoration initiative. Slashing it from three hundred million dollars to thirty million just days later, Trump came out and said this at a rally in Michigan, and I'm going to get in honor of my friends full funding of three hundred million dollars for the Great Lakes restoration in this. This one famous Trump lie came after he botched the name of apple CEO, Tim cook, we appreciate it very much Tim apple Trump, then told to donors that he actually said Tim cook, apple really fast and the cook part of the sentence was soft according to axios. Jim apple Trump later tweeted, I quickly referred to Tim and apple as Tim apple as an easy way to save time. In words, the fake news was disparagingly all over this just about every American president has lied about something I did not have sexual relations with that woman. Miss lewinsky. And of course, some were big lies. Bruce. Learn from news reports. Of the Watergate break-in, I was appalled. Richard nixon's. Lies about Watergate Bill Clinton's on his affair and Linden. Johnson's on Vietnam were committed for political expediency for most politicians when they do dissemble when they do say things that aren't true they're doing it to try to get by doing it to try to gain some political advantage in Donald Trump's case. It's just an endemic part of who he is Trump's biographers say his proclivity to lie dating back at least to his days as a real estate developer in New York is more about instant gratification than anything else. He's just riffing. He's doing the moment. He this is what Donald Trump does he life takes place for him in the present. He doesn't really care about the past Nell even that much about the future. He wants to win the moment at every turn. One key question tonight. Why don't the president's aid to speak for him publicly people like, Sarah Sanders and Kellyanne Conway ever publicly, correct? The president's lies Trump's biographers say that's for their own survival that he would punish them if they ever did that accusing them of undermining him they say those aides have to be careful about how they even approach Trump in private over that wolf Brian Todd reporting for us. Thank you very much coming up. We have some major breaking news CNN exclusive on President Trump's taxes. 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"Everyone. It's poppy Harlow on this week's episode of boss files one on one with Gwyneth Paltrow. But not as when it's a famous actress rather when the CEO she's built goop to a two hundred fifty million dollars business, but you helped me still feels like an impostor sometimes as CEO loss what she's learned from Disney, and why did you reach down to Amazon founder Jeff Bezos. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable. Eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Next. Breaking news. Federal prosecutors charging Chinese woman with illegally entering Trump's mar-a-lago. She had four cell phones laptop a hard drive and the thumb drive with malware this as the president was spending the weekend at mar a Lago. Plus breaking news, how stem serving White House staffers was four subpoenas. That news literally coming in this hour and the president threatening to shut down the southern border Republicans now ardently against it. Does the president fluffing empty threats? Let's go out front. Good evening. I'm Erin Burnett out front tonight. The breaking news a stunning security breach. Authorities arresting a Chinese woman for trying to lie her way into Marla go last weekend while the president of the United States was staying there, and what she had on her is raising serious concerns tonight. According to prosecutors, we have the entire document here. What they're a filing. She was holding two passports from the Republic of China for cellphones, a laptop computer and external hard drive and a thumb drive that contained malicious, malware according to prosecutors. The woman claimed they Chinese friend named Charles told her to travel from Shanghai tomorrow Lago to speak with a member of Trump's family. Shwim procam passes out front. Okay. Shimon look on a lot of levels pretty pretty disturbing. You know, some of it you go my gosh. This is this real life. Okay. It is do investigators have any idea who this person really is. And what she was doing at mar-a-lago. So that is the big question certainly this hour. Aaron is exactly why would she their authorities? Not telling us why she was there why they think she was really they're they're obviously investigating the secret service other law enforcement partners are looking into this. The thing is what's really troubling. Is she got on the grounds? She was able to communicate to secret service agents. She was there first she said, she was there to go to the pool when she went to a separate area another checkpoint. She said she was there to talk to the president's family. She wanted to talk about relations economic relations with the with the Chinese, obviously all very troubling. Because secret service agent started discovering that her story wasn't making sense. And one of the most troubling. Things. I think in reading all this thumb drive that you just talked about that. There was this malicious software on it. And the whole point of this is a thirties. Want to know is was this designed in a way was this. Thumb drive designed in a way to deliver this malicious software and was there something else going on here? And obviously the big question for them is who centre did what she sent there by somebody. Or did she come up with this whole idea herself a lot of questions certainly under counterintelligence side? And what this is really about for thirties as they try to dive into this. And they certainly are. And they're going to go through her, computer. They're going to go through her cell phone that thumb drive. They already know what's on there. And they have to figure out now, and they can do this. Erin Weirs mala wear from perhaps is there a country that it's associated with all of that is going to be key parts of this investigation for law enforcement. All right. Thank you very much amount. I mean, it is deeply concerning. How far she got by the way, make it very clear. She didn't have anything to go. Swimming in her bag, right? So she was really there with this malware her four cell phones and her two passports out front now. Jack Weiss former federal prosecutor in cybersecurity expert Juliette Kyon former assistant secretary for homeland security and Bob Baer former CIA operative, so Bob, what does this look like deal looks like a Chinese operation? The fact she came from Shanghai is know Chinese would would center from Shanghai, Republican, China, passports, they use all the time, you know, to deflect suspicion in an operation like this. It clearly Aaron it was very clumsy, but normal people don't carry four cell phones and malware with them especially going into what's essentially, you know, the the White House in Florida, right? I mean and Juliette she shows up at first sort of acts like she doesn't really understand English. Right. And part of the reason she got as far as she did is her last name is John which is it looks like Zang in English, and there's someone who's a member of mar-a-lago with that last name. So they they let her in. In as far as she got. And she acts like she doesn't really understand English. But then when they apprehend her and start talking to her and handing her pieces of paper to read they say, she exhibited a detailed knowledge of and ability to converse in and understand even subtle nuances of the English language, which it seems like she was pretending. She couldn't do. Right. So she was pretending to be the sort of, you know, not not English speaking cousin of someone who was a member trying to get in. And then she knows that possibly that. She's exposed I'd agree with Bob. This looks like some entity, and it could be corporation or the Chinese trying to get in. I think the only question I have now is essentially why does it look so clumsy? I'm always curious when things look really clumsy is was this a with did they intend for her to get caught? Was this a statement by country or corporation, knowing how open a mar-a-lago is knowing that? The Trump administration has not been good at every story. This week has been about security clearances about the openness of secrets and accessibility by our enemies, and and and sort of disappointment by our allies who know the how clumsy this White House is and it's giving security clearances to people don't know. So I think all of these stories are connected, which is essentially a door wide open. Is is what the White House is telling to our enemies about the secrets of the United States and our national security. I mean, Jack when you look at what she had for cell phones laptop external hard drive. Thumb drive which had malicious malware on it. What do you make of all of that? Whether this was clumsy or not, well, the only thing she didn't have as a bathing suit. And she said she was going swimming there. So Juliet and Bob make it. I would add okay. If she's clumsy how many people have gotten into mar-a-lago over the past two years who weren't says clumsy. I mean, it's stunning. How far she got in? And so my suspicion is she's not the first and Juliet's, right? This is a weak with the security clearance issue. We see the front doors and the back doors open to this administration. Well, this has been a big concern. Bob is mar-a-lago, and it's septa -bility to foreign influence, right? All these people. You know, you pay your money to become a member of the club. Oh, exactly. And we know we've talked about this Erin that if you want to get to the president you go mar-a-lago you can. Get around the secret service because it's a private place and everybody knows that from the Russians to the Chinese any hostile intelligence service. If you want the president's secret go tomorrow Lago, whether it's somebody who owned Saggio parlor or somebody with malware, go tomorrow law, go, you can get all the secrets you need. Don't try it at the White House, which is well protected. So Juliet, according to the charge Documenta wanna read one other thing this whole issue of how she said she got there. She claims, okay. Her Chinese friend, Charles told her to travel from Shanghai to Palm Beach to attend this event. It was a sort of a US China event. She said an attempt to speak with a member of the president's family about Chinese and American foreign economic relations. Then they agents tried to get more information about Charles Zan claims. She had spoken to him through a messaging service popular in China. They don't know anything about this guy. Anything it seems so bizarre. Yeah. And everyone has to seem that this is all. Ally that she's, you know, essentially, an agent of someone and I keep mentioning corporation because the Chinese corporations are also very interested in our secrets or national security secrets as we well know in terms of telecoms, and and missile deployments or missile buildings and things like that. So it so she's an agent of someone just comes up with the story. There's no Charles in China. You know, there's there's no Charles in China, or whatever his name is. And and she tries to essentially get out of it. You know by trying to sort of concoc- this story. I think there's a gem of interesting aspect to this this part of of the law enforcement materials, which is they don't seem shocked in in the in what they wrote then someone from China is trying to get tomorrow law. Go to talk to the president or his family about an international or business deal. That's not the surprising part to them because one has to soon that's happening all the time as we well know. What's surprising is of course, at her story doesn't match right? I mean jacket that is the point right? That that that in and of itself they were able to check and say there was no such an happening. But the fact that there would be uninventive happening while the president was there that was between the US and China didn't didn't ended up itself caused any concern. No it didn't. And let's face it. When we all read this arrest warrant, the secret service does not come off looking great in this check after check. And because name sorta kinda sounds like John they let her through. So I mean, whatever word you wanna use culturally clueless racist, you would think they would do a little better. Yeah. No, no, one comes out looking good. As far as Chinese intelligence may be. She's just cannon fodder fake. They send one person going trying to go swimming a week at mar-a-lago until someone gets through. Right. And and Bob that's the the question is what she would have done with them all with the malware will Jackson and know this mean once you get into the WI fi logs and the rest of it. And you always want to do an entry. If you have a choice into a building as. Oppose to standing away, the wifi know, they could get conversations that could do harmonic turn on microphones in parts of the system. The Chinese are very good. And by the way, all their signals intelligence, whether it's corporate or not runs through the Chinese army. They there's a law that they have to report the Chinese army. So even Juliet is right. Even if it is a corporation that messed up there still at the end of the day reporting to the Chinese army. And of course, I've got this this this arrest here. And you know, what what happens to her Jack from here, of course, whether she. Interesting extradited interesting, whether they turn this into an espionage case, depending on what they find. But then they need to prove knowledge on her part, right? Okay. Thank you, all very much and next breaking news. Democrats just serving White House officials with four subpoenas tonight, plus President Trump replacing Mexico with a new villain as he's threatens to shut down the Mexican border. We don't make. Deal with congress. The border is going to be closed hundred percent and President Trump ripping into the mayor of San Juan calling her craze and incompetent, well, guess what? She's out front. She'll respond. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Xeni optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. 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It starting is the White House going to comply or fight the subpoenas so far Aaron the White House has not commented on the fact that these subpoenas have actually been served to these officials, but we know they're thinking, especially when it comes to these security clearances, so far the White House has said, they do not believe the Democrats on oversight have any right to get access to this information with the White House counsel. Pat, simple, only making the argument that President Trump has the authority here to either grant or deny these clearances so far the White House has not given the oversight committee, a single document related to their clearances requests. So that kind of leads you to believe where this is headed from here. However, it doesn't seem that this is the last unit. They're going to get related to these clearances because coming has coming to set it they do not comply with this. He's only going to continue to push and take additional steps. Now. The other subpoena was about that census question on the the citizens citizenship question on the census form that is one that actually had a Republican vote to authorize that subpoena. But we know what this that so far the White House has argued that this is going before litigation because the supreme court is said to consider that decision win about three weeks or so so the White House could potentially argued that. Now, we heard from President Trump actually just this morning weighing in on this saying that he believes the census would be meaningless without that question on there. So whether or not they comply we are so waiting and watching to see what their response is going to be to this, Erin. All right. Caitlyn? Thank you very much. And I want to go now to Harry Sandik. Former assistant US attorney for the southern district of New York and Laura coach former federal prosecutor, Harry just the White House have a choice, obviously, this is the beginning of an onslaught. But these are the first ones do they have a choice to comply. Firefight? I think they have the choice to fight. I mean, you could definitely construct arguments you could think about executive privilege or as we were just saying the existence of ongoing litigation to me. I don't think those arguments are very strong. But you know, as we saw with the Manafort sensing different judges can come out different ways on these issues, and it can take years to resolve them. And so sometimes the game they wanna play it could be a this'll continue even up to the election. If they want to run out the clock. I mean, Laura we're off. So today, we've got those subpoenas. And now, the president slamming Democrats who of course, they're threatening to issue more subpoenas, very specifically. Right, Jerry, Nadler, chairman of the House Judiciary committee. He wants the full unredacted Muller report. He wants it. Now, he's not waiting to see what Bill bar gives them. He's going now he wants to subpoena now. And here's the president's response. I think it's ridiculous. We went through two years of the Muller investigation. The attorney general now, and the deputy attorney general ruled no obstruction. They said, no obstruction. And so there's no collusion. There's no obstruction and now whether to start this process all over again, I think it's a disgrace. All right. So he doesn't want it out there Lara. But you know, it's quite a change from the president just a few days ago on releasing them. All a report here. He is. Let it come out. Let people see it. Sounds like a real change of tune to me and my right, Laura. Of course, it's a total about face, and it seems to be perhaps either for a boating or have wondering why the about face, do, you know, something it's inside of it. Or is it that it's not the complete exoneration. The president has promised. Remember part of the issue. Here is the president fundamentally understands one thing and that is in addition to the Muller investigation. There was always intended to be a congressional probe their functions and roles are very different. They're supposed to legislate if there is some basis in order to do so to try to change the ability of foreign people from trying to interfere with our elections. They always had this parallel track. They played second fiddle Aaron because the Muller probe had criminal consequences. And a lot of the witnesses did not want to be forthcoming if they had the threat of imprisonment on their side. So there was always was to happen. Like the present just wanted it to end with Mahler, but there was always supposed to be a dual track. Right. And of course, in prior investigations, Harry is that dual-track. Which has resulted in action congress, right? It is often that way, but New York magazine's Livia newsy reporting tonight that Trump's own aides are worried they're afraid that he's over selling them. All a report he's telling everybody exoneration. And that's not going to be the case. One senior White House official telling her quote, there will be plenty of unfavorable things about the president in the full report, which we think will eventually come out. So let's not go overboard saying there's no wrongdoing. I think that whoever is advising the president. That is giving good advice. We know there were five hundred search warrants executed, a search warrant requires a showing to a judge that there's probable cause to believe a crime say, okay, I'm coming in to make it clear you have to show to judge. It's legit. Exactly. So there was some evidence of criminal wrongdoing and maybe considerable evidence. Now that doesn't mean that there was enough to charge anyone, and that's a high standard and prosecutor should be reluctant to charge. But the idea that there was no evidence of anything, which is what we heard people saying the day or two after bars report just seems likely to be wrong. And Laura you've got the chairman of the house intelligence committee as you point out, right? Very different role than than Muller. But he is now saying tonight to CNN that that Bob Muller is going to testify before congress. Here's Adam Schiff. I think it is navigable that Bob Mueller is gonna have to testify, and I would presume that he may testify before multiple committees. That would be something else. What do you say Laura will happen? Well, we hope it happens. Because of course, we have not gotten an answer. The question of why Muller has punted on the question of obstruction to Bill bar did he intend to punt to Bill bar or to congress? What was that? He was unable to reach a conclusion about which was part of his mandate. And remember we've only seen what about one hundred and one words from Robert Muller's since twenty two months, the indictments he actually issued but the people want actually hear from him special counsel, not a political appointee. I'd be surprised if he didn't testify having said that I'm sure that bar will be the person who will be the immediately as on between this actual report and the American people whether that will satisfy people like Adam Schiff, it should not give him a he as a political appointee. Who essentially gave a nineteen page explanation that coincidentally coincided with decided on section of Justice, Harry this Bob Muller wanna testify. I mean, I know he's a private person. But I mean does he think that to put the truth out there that he needs to? If I or is he going to avoid it like how I mean. It's it's hard to mind read, and ultimately, it wouldn't necessarily be his decision alone. Even if he wanted to testify because he did that work for the department of Justice. I would think that they could say look you're not allowed to just call any employee of the department. But one one does wonder as all this talk swirls about what the report is if whether he or the people who worked with him are getting a little bit irritated about some of the claims being made by the administration and by people in the public. All right. Thank you very much. Both of you. And next President Trump says he may have no choice tonight. But to shut down the border the threats keep coming. They keep coming. They keep coming does. He really understand what that threat. Even means. We're live on the border tonight with a reality check. But the mayor of San Juan is out front Perv response to the president's attack on her deeply personal calling her incompetent. And the White House spokesperson who today called Puerto Rico that country. Always done in that country. They have had a systematic mismanagement of the goods and services we've sent to that. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN tonight. President Trump saying one hundred percent he is ready to do it to shut down the southern border. But he is changing the terms. The president has no longer threatening to shut down the border because of Mexico's failure to stop migrants from coming into the United States. No, he has moved on Mexico is not the villain. Now. The new villain is congress. Mexico is now stopping people coming very easy for them to do stopping people coming in through Mexico. Let's see if they keep it done. If if they keep doing that. Now, if they don't or if we don't make a deal with congress the border is going to be close hundred percent. Hundred percent while the president then went on to admit the closing the border would have a negative impact on the economy. And those were the words he used, but he said loud and clear that is not what matters most and that puts him on what seems to be a very different page than both the democratic and Republican leaders of the Senate. Economic disaster to the country would be used closing down the border would have potentially catastrophic economic impact on our country. Well, that is agreement disaster and catastrophe from the top democrat and top Republican the Senate. I mean, just here's an example, if you look at the auto industry, according to a leading automotive expert, the entire US auto industry would shut down within a week if the border is closed, even if it's anything close to that it gives you a sense of the magnitude of this. And who who would that hurt? Just if you look at the pain in the automotive industry alone highest percentage of auto workers, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama. You can look at where those states voted in the election. Does the president understand the consequences of shutting down the southern border? Or did he come out with a big bellicose threat without thinking it through or learning the facts at eleven Dera is out front on the ground. Order residents have heard the repeated threats for weeks, and they're trying to figure out if President Trump is just flirting with disaster or serious about closing the border. We gotta stop the crime. We got a close up. We got a close up the borders telling you right now, we will close the damn border. The ports of entry and border crossings are a lifeline between the tightly integrated communities where Mexico in the United States blend together. There are twenty four ports of entry that dot the southern border from Brownsville, Texas to southern California and beyond that there are dozens of border crossings where a steady stream of people cross bridges and customs checkpoints daily. So vast array is spent nearly thirty years working as a border patrol agent. He was also a democratic congressman from El Paso. He describes the idea of shutting down the border as lunacy, I scratch my head and and wonder how much longer they're going to get away with it because you can't. It can't be good now for the president of the United States to be threatening. Or even just talking about shutting down the border is nuts. The port between t one in Mexico and California is massive in sprawling where people can wait for hours to drive across the Rato, Texas is the largest inland. Port along the border with special bridges designed to accommodate nearly four point six billion trucks every year carrying everything from car parts food clothing electronics, and there are even tiny crossings like this in far west, Texas where you can take a rowboat across the Rio Grande to the other side. All of this would theoretically grind to a halt across the United States between five and six million American jobs directly rely on trade with Mexico, everything from fortune five hundred companies to the mom and pop shops that are part of the colorful border landscape would feel the pain says John Zarrella, he's the CEO of a group called. Order plex alliance that advocates for hundreds of Mexican and American businesses that rely on international trade and the pain won't be restricted to border towns. It would impact the entire country uncertainty is the enemy of job growth and investment and closing the border creates an error of uncertainty, even the threat of closing the border creates at Arab uncertainty. And Erin tonight on border towns as we see people walking back leaving work tonight. And you can see there in the distance all of those people who have probably been waiting hours to get from Mexico into a Paso people, really dealing. We've been asked multiple times is the border closed. Can we get across many people worried about whether or not if indeed this does happen if they're going to be on the right side of the border. So these are very real life concerns that these folks are doing thank you very much. I literally can see that line behind as as he speaking. I want to go now to the assistant house speaker congressman Ben right Luhan who's out front congressman year from a border state, New Mexico. Eddie, obviously standing along the border in Texas tonight. Do you think the president is going to go through with this threat that he has been so adamant about making he has been so black and white about making is he going to shut down the border? Well, I hear and this is a bad idea. No matter how you look at it. I think many of us are very concerned that the president may go through with this. You spell this out. Very clearly if the president closed down the southern border, this would devastate the auto industry across America, including all those manufacturing jobs where they're assembling vehicles. It would devastate farmers are already feeling the squeeze because of the president's games with tariffs. And in addition to that you look at all of the healthcare facilities across America that depend on equipment that is also coming into the United States through the southern border. It would devastate the ability to access care in many communities. So this is bad all around. And I can't imagine that the president won't come to his senses to stop this. Senseless political gain we should be working together to make sure to dressing challenges. I just can't imagine why he's doing this. All right. Well, he doesn't like to be told what to do we all know that and and sort of the more here's hear people like you or Mitch McConnell. You know, sometimes he kind of goes the opposite way right and today trying to now say he's not even mad at Mexico anymore. Now, he's putting the onus on you on Democrats specifically saying you guys have to come to the table when we play again what he said. What we have to do is congress has to meet quickly and make a deal. I could do it in forty five minutes. Can't do it in forty five minutes. Will you give him Forty-five minutes? Look if the president wants to work with congress, congress is willing to work with him. But the president will invite the cameras in he'll make deal, and then he'll walk away from it. And again, all the president's doing. Here's playing political games in posturing. Why would he threaten the US economy threatened the entire auto industry threatened farmers across America with these idle threats, look, Mr President, if you want to work together reach out to congress, we're willing and ready to where there's been no indication that you've gotten well, not listen house speaker, you know, not that I'm aware of Aaron. And here's the thing that we just passed an important package that opened up the government that included investments in border security and humanitarian aid to the border is the president even using those funds. I mean, there's a big question Mark surrounding how this administration and the secretary of the homeland security department are operating politicos report. Tonight. The House Democrats are considering a vote to condemn the president over his calls to shut down the border, a formal statement. And I guess the question is to you. Are you considering that just to force Republicans to go on the record and oppose the president is that what you're doing trying to force the hand of your colleagues across the aisle. Look, I think it's important that Democrats and Republicans come together on this issue. And we're hearing pushback to the president's threat to shut down the border, which would devastate the US economy. We're hearing condemnation coming from Democrats and Republicans here. So if the president wants to work with us, we should work together. But it's important that congress use every tool that we have to be loud and clear that this is a bad idea and the president should walk away from it. All right tonight. The president responded to the house there's a house vote, obviously to artists pain the full Muller report in he originally, as you know, it said absolutely no problem. I want everyone to see it. I want the American people. See it very different tonight. Here's what he said. I think it's ridiculous. We went through two years of the Muller investigation. The attorney general now and the deputy attorney general no obstruction. They said, no obstruction. And so there's no collusion. There's no obstruction. And now we're going to start this process all over again. I think it's a disgrace. So what's going on here? He said he wanted everybody to see it. No problem is he completely changing his tune. I think he's gonna try to block it or now. Well, look, if the president has nothing to worry about he should fully support releasing the report to the American people, congress has already voted four hundred twenty two zero Democrats and Republicans came together to say make this report public. So again, this doesn't surprise me that the president may be changing his mind because he seems to do that a lot again, Mr President you have nothing to worry about make this report available to the American people into the congress congress in Luhansk, thanks for your time. Thank you. 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President Trump's spokesman referring to Puerto Rico as another country. Here's HOGAN Gidley. Always done in that country. They have had a systematic mismanagement of the goods and services, we've sent to them I think referred to Puerto Rico, isn't that country of territory. Yes, okay territory. I'm so that was a mistake flip account onto persists wanted on our set. Gillies comment coming as President Trump escalates. His feud with Puerto Rico's leaders tweeting quote female in the military worked emergency miracles but politicians like the craze and incompetent mayor of San Juan have done such a poor job of bringing the island back to health well out front now. The San Juan mayor Carmen, Julian crews and mayor crews, thank you very much. So it would be remiss if I didn't start with the president here. He calls you crazed and incompetent your response. The president lives in. I don't have worked were trying to pin people against one another. I guess it's easier for him to try and me down cannot. You know, one Eleanor Roosevelt used to say, no one can make you feel inferior without your consent while Mr President. We don't consent you were beating Preston, you don't know what you were talking about you continue to lie, and you continue to mistreat people. And that's just the way you do policy. One of the things earn if he doesn't get his way he'll throw a little temper tantrum. And he will just try and ditch anybody he can he did it a few weeks ago when he couldn't get the money for the border. He left eight hundred thousand federal employees without the ability to take food to their families. That's exactly what he's doing to Puerto Rico one point three million Puerto Ricans need, some sort of food stamps systems to put food on the table out of that forty five percent are children elderly and disabled citizens. It is remarkable that the president cannot understand that he's gotten this all. Wrong. And it's like a virus? It continues to sit down you just quoted the deputy communications officer from the White House calling us that people Rick Scott Senator recently coming into the Senate saying that he will only support the kind of aid that the president is going to approve well. Mayor the president himself you point out with HOGAN Gidley said, you know, obviously, referring to it as that country. The president himself tweeted Puerto Rican politicians, quote, only take from the USA. I mean does the president even even even recognize in any important way any meaningful way, the Puerto Ricans are citizen of citizens of the United States of America? The person doesn't care he has proven time and time again that he's in this to look good. You know, he he thinks this is about him. He never got it when I pleaded and I asked him for help. He never got that. This was about saving lives. He doesn't get that. This is about putting food on the table. And what does he do he tries to pin Puerto Ricans against farmers in the mid west. Who are also in dire. Need off getting the help. This is not help. This is what governments that have a moral platform to stand up, which of course, the president does not do. Do when the people that are governed by them need assistance. They provide us as and moreover he lies ninety one billion dollars have not gotten to Puerto Rico. The Washington Post says that eleven and thirteen billion dollars have gotten to Puerto Rico three thousand people died on his watch. And he's not even barest to make your point about the ninety one billion. Yes, the Washington Post only eleven billion of that has gone to the island and the rest of it is money set aside and money that eventually he says may be needed. Right. So so that number doesn't add up at all. But the president does say that the money Puerto Rico has it has not been spent wisely. Here's how he put it there. You do have a mayor of San Juan that frankly, doesn't know what she's doing and the governor they got to spend the money wisely. They don't know how to spend the money, and they're not spending it wisely. Obviously personally, again striking at you as well. As the governor Puerto Rico did declare the one hundred twenty three billion dollars, essentially in bankruptcy, which was the first time in history, a state or territory of the United States has done. So does he have a point at all mayor about Puerto Rico accounting for the money? You're receiving. Oh, absolutely. And one of the things that I have asked Benny Thompson. The president of the homeland security committee is to set up some sort of a derived. Data point where we couldn't ball seaworthy money has on. But let me get you point. For example, FEMA right now is in the process still up, providing the cities of San Juan and all the rest of the cities in Puerto Rico, the money that they are supposed to be burst. And this is from the immediate aftermath the hurricane, of course. People have to be accountable for the money that is given in order to do the reconstruction and the recovery, but he doesn't have to lie. You know, why he lies because he made this. And he's spun this as a good news story. This is Trump's Katrina. This is not a good news story. It has never been a good news story for him. The Pentagon nuit. That's why they wrote him little emails telling him to ignore when I called out for help back in September. And October of twenty seventeen the American people. Who are so much different from the United States from from the president of the United States. No, that's what they flocked to Puerto Rico by the hundreds to help us to feed us to tend to our wounds. So, of course, one has to be accountable for the money, but the president is unable to give one example of worth that money has been missed us. He is all about the talk is not about doing. What is right or or really trying to get people to come together, the empathy? All right, mayor crews. Thank you so much. I appreciate your coming on tonight. Thank you very much and next the new women in congress calling out their male co workers. We feel empowered to call it out and say, hey, that's not cool. Plus when it comes to goal is the president the commander in chief. I'm Biagio Messina, and I'm jokin seen. We are the producers behind the H HSEN television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, the Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. Tonight, a freshman congresswoman warning her male colleagues men need to know that you can't say that kind of thing congresswoman, Katie hill of California, one of several freshman saying they've had enough of what they say is rampant. Sexism on Capitol Hill. Sunlen Serfaty is out front. It's the stomach, and it has an impact new members of congress are pulling back the curtain on what many see as a pervasive culture of sexism on Capitol Hill. I guess I would say it's our cakes sexism you say hi to him. And they'll say, hey, beautiful, or, hey, Dr Lynn, and and that's just like every day that kind of thing happens, California Democrat, Katie hill revealing a conversation she had with a male member of congress about one minute speeches on the house floor. He joked to her that he can be Mr. five minute, man, or Mr. whatever minute man you want, and I'm like, ooh, he needs to know if we need to know that like you can't say that kind of thing. These freshmen women coming in with record breaking numbers on Capitol Hill say they are confronting what needs to be changed by calling out the old ways directly in the only way it can be broken down by seeing women as your peers and over and over and over again, and and having those kinds of areas, not accepted, Georgia Democrat Lucy. Macbeth facing comments from outside the capitol sexy. I attacks from this conservative radio show. You're there to not Lucy MC bath back to the headlines. Yeah. Go back to. Yeah. Go back to showing stuff in a needlepoint and things like that. That'd be great. I laughed. I thought this is just so archaic these kinds of sentiments about linen MacBeth hiring back and raising money off it online, it just feels the fire for me. And for all the numbers of women and grassroots organizers that are women that have been standing up, New York Democrat Alexandria, Cossio Cortez to has been no stranger to hitting back. When criticism of a work attire spread online like wildfire within our first few days on Capitol Hill. She was quick to label pitchers being taken over close and backside as misogyny just those little things kind of added up to a larger culture. But I do think that things are different now because because we feel empowered to call it out and say, hey, that's not cool. Huge part of that empowerment, they're very powerful. Full social media platforms that these women are weaponising as they call out bias, highlighting. A lot of the stuff that we've been dealing with that hasn't been okay. But we've just been told to grin and bear. And all of this comes in the wake of the metoo moment. The metoo wave that has hit Capitol Hill and over the course of the last year, of course, has led to members of congress resigning their positions over allegations of sexual misconduct and new laws on the book for both members and their staff as far as how they deal with sexual harassment legislation. Notably many people here saying that should go farther that does not go far enough. And of course, many members also bringing a personal touch many of them revealing their own stories Aaron of sexual harassment they faced in the past. All right Sunland. Thank you so much and next genie tees off on Trump and how he allegedly cheats, like a mafia accountant. Actually said that was the best golfer of all the rich people. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more affordable. Every set is crafted from one hundred percents organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. That's why they have thousands of five star reviews and even three US presidents have Boll and branch sheets. Try them for thirty nights. And if you don't love them, send them back for a full refund. Go to bollandbranch dot com today for fifty dollars off your first set of sheets, plus free shipping with promo code CNN to spelled B O L L, andbranch dot com. That's bollandbranch dot com, promo code CNN too. Trump's golf game. Here's genie. It's enough to make an avid golfer. Feel like he's landed in a sand trap trap. Just hearing the title commander in chief and the author giving all those interviews. He cheats, like mafia accounts three right to say. Donald Trump pizza Gulf is like saying Michael Phelps, swims. He cheated the highest level gold is like bicycle shorts. It reveals a lot about a guy bicycle shorts are one presidential revelation. We can live without this is really going to tee off the president over two hundred fifty pages accusing him of cheating at his beloved sport. Others like Samuel Jackson have said they've seen. President Trump cheat we clue Islam hit a ball hook a ball into a late. But somehow his county found it just took off running. I got Trump. But this is a whole book filled with examples. He actually did cheat guy. Your would you know, he kicks the ball out of the rough so many times the caddy's call him Palay. That's soccer great. But forget the president's feet. These hands said a golf ball two hundred and eighty five yards look at these actually said that is the best golfer of all the rich people. I know how to win I've one these people will tell you have I won many club championships eighteen championships by his own count. And like you liar. Because you told me how you did it when I played with you author. Rick Reilly, demolishes Trump's two point eight handicap, the lower the better. But experts say he's probably nine online president was compared to goldfinger hitting the ball into the rough then having odd jaw dropping new ball down his pants for better positioning. That's his origin ball. I'm on calmer. I'm standing on seven solution was to cantor cheat. Cheating at golf doesn't rise to the level of accusations about Russia. But at tees up this tweet there was no collusion with my caddie. Jeannie, Moos C N N, New York. And thank you for joining us. Don't forget you can watch out front anytime anywhere. You just have to go to CNN go AC three. Sixty with Anderson starts right after this.

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Listen for free on apple podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Because the tuition charges congress with holding the president accountable for alleged official misconduct, chairman of the House Judiciary committee, Jerry Nadler, says they are moving forward with subpoenas to obtain the special counsels full report on the Russia investigation, the ice have it because the resolution as amended is agreed to in a twenty four to seventeen vote. The House Judiciary committee voted to authorize subpoenas for attorney general William bar and five former White House officials, but chairman Jerry Nadler says he won't issue it right away. Instead, he will give bar another chance to change his mind about releasing the full unredacted Muller report. Republicans argued that bar has already agreed to release the report to congress with reductions to grand jury and classified materials Mona Kosar. Abdi ABC news Capitol Hill. New reports that members of the special counsels team have concerns with how their Russia report was summarized by attorney general bar ABC, news senior congressional correspondent Mary Bruce explains for the first time members of Robert Muller's. Team a reportedly sharing frustrations with how attorney general Bill bar is handling their report, according to the Washington Post and associate of the Muller team says the report is much more acute than bar suggested sources telling the post the evidence on obstruction of Justice was alarming and significant bar has released a four page letter outlining his main conclusions, which the Justice department insists is not an attempt to summarize the report, but the post reports Muller's team is frustrated because they prepared their own summaries to be shared in their own words and not in the attorney general summary of their work. One official briefed on the issue tells the post those summaries were written in a way that minimum reductions if any would have been necessary and the work would have spoken for itself. The Justice department is pushing back suggesting they couldn't release any of the Muller team summaries because every page of Muller's confidential report was marked with a notation that it may contain confidential material bar has promised to make public redacted version soon, the president says. He supports that let it come out. Let people see it that's up to the attorney general. He tweeted there is nothing. We can ever give to the Democrats that will make them. Happy Republicans like Trump's ally, Senator Lindsey Graham wants to see more of a report come out publicly just let the public see what what they get for their money later. He told us he's standing by the attorney general no concern at all that bar summary may not be an accurate reflection zero. He's not stupid. Why would he do that Democrats reigniting the battle to see President Trump's tax returns? They're petitioning the IRS for six years of the president's taxes. ABC news senior national correspondent Terry Moran has details. This is shaping up to be a huge and important legal battle really for every American. So here's what's happening. A chairman of the House Ways and means committee Democrat Richard Neal of Massachusetts sent that letter to the IRS demanding all those Trump tax returns. These citing this nineteen twenty four law that allows the heads of. A few committees in congress to get the tax returns of any American as long as there is the supreme court says a legislative purpose they have to be involved in passing a law to get these returns and they're supposed to keep them secret. But this is congress. So we can't really expect that President Trump is fighting back as you see and he wants promised he would release his tax returns. Now, he says the audits won't let him, but this is going to be a major legal fight, and it will probably end up in the supreme court the privacy rights of Americans around those tax returns are very important. The IRS takes that very seriously. This will go to court President Trump is delaying his plans to repeal ObamaCare. ABC news chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl. After saying he would make the Republicans the party of healthcare. I understand healthcare now, especially very well. A lot of people don't understand it. President Trump now says that will have to wait until after the twenty twenty election backtracking started with a tweet vote will be taken right after the election when Republicans. Hold the Senate and win back the house. The president's initial promise of a Republican healthcare plan came after he decided to attempt to completely terminate ObamaCare for the courts, a move that could leave tens of millions of people without health insurance. Now, he's saying the Republican replacement plan will have to wait if we get back the house and on the assumption. We keep the Senate, and we keep the presidency, which I hope would do good assumptions we're going to have a phenomenal healthcare. The about face comes after Republican leaders in congress told the president they had no interest in pushing through a healthcare Bill anytime soon, I made it clear to him. We were not going to be doing that in the Senate Republicans have yet to present a plan to replace ObamaCare, but the president implied he already has one when the plan comes out, which will be showing you the appropriate time it's much better than ObamaCare late last week. The president threatened to close the southern border with Mexico acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, told ABC. Chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl. The closure was imminent, a he obviously made a the same threat back in December. What would it take for him not to do that this week something dramatic, but this week the president backed down from that threat? Here's ABC's. Lana Zak last week, President Donald Trump threatened to shut the southern border with Mexico completely if the influx of migrants from Central America continued, but now it seems that there will be no border closure prompting the question, what changed the president's mind. My mind at all. I may get it down at some point. But I'd rather do Tara so Mexico have to say has been very very good on Thursday. The president suggested he would give Mexico a year to work on these issues. Lana Zak ABC news. The White House security concerns following a breach at the president's residence in Florida. There was a secret service protective zone around mar-a-lago with layers of security agents and signs warning that the area was restricted. But according to court documents Eugene Zhang got in any way, the president golfing nearby. When thority say, she presented to Chinese passports to an agent as ide- and said, she was there to go to the pool. The agent pasture information Tamara Lago security to verify she was on an access list while the court documents make clear Jiang easily conversed in English. Authorities say due to a potential language barrier issue. Mar-a-lago believed her to be the relative of a member of the club who was also named Zhang valet then drove her to them main reception area in a golf cart. Prosecutors say Jiang made it through another secret service, checkpoint magnetometers and more agents before she was finally stopped by a receptionist lashed Jiang. Why she was there. According to the complaint, Shane finally responded that she was there for United Nations Chinese American association event later in the evening. The receptionists new this event did not exist at that point the secret service took over when they say, she claimed her Chinese French Charles told her to travel from Shanghai to attempt to speak with a member of the president's family about Chinese and American foreign economic relations ABC news chief global affairs. Correspondent Martha Raddatz former vice president Joe Biden tries to explain himself after accusations of inappropriate behavior. Here's ABC's scene. Congressional correspondent Mary Bruce. Former vice president Joe Biden is acknowledging that some of his behavior has made women uncomfortable, and is trying to explain always trying to be in my career voice. Taking responsibility. I think I shake as I hope people I grabbed in shoulders and say you can do this. And now Biden is promising to change his ways calling it his responsibility wars began to change and Bonington protected personal space been reset. I guess I get I hear what they're saying. On people's personal space. With Biden's would be campaign in crisis mode. President Trump is relishing the moment as going to call them. I don't know. Well, I was going to say welcome to the world. Joe you have it. A good time. Joe Trump himself has denied accusations of sexual misconduct, including sexual assault by more than a dozen women. Former vice president is reported to be buying a presidential run. But it was Ohio. Congressman Tim Ryan who made a twenty twenty announcement this week on ABC's the view saying the country. Must unify Ryan is now these seventeenth democrat to enter the race historic election in Chicago was voters in that city select a political outsider as their new mayor ABC news chief national correspondent, Tom yomas reports both historical, and it was a landslide in a city known for its backroom politics. The wind was a jolt of Chicago's political machine Laurie life, but a former federal prosecutor who never held elected office ran on a platform of cracking down on government corruption and helping lower income neighborhoods. She will be the city's first female black mayor taking office at a time of high tension between the police and its black population, which makes it with third of the city. But also a group that has been moving out of Chicago in recent years due in part to violence and housing issues. Life will also be the first openly gay mayor after beating out another black female candidate. And earlier Bill Daley of the legendary Chicago political family who also served as chief of staff to President Obama. The historic moment was not lost on Lightfoot. I remembered something Martin Luther King said when I was very young face. He said is taking the first step when you can't see the staircase. Why are we couldn't see the whole staircase when we started this journey, but we had faith and abiding faith in the city. It's people and it is future. So we took that first step now. Life would faces big challenges ahead, including a pension crisis. That's ongoing, and though the murder rate has come down recently crime still remains a major issue. Chicago, a devastating turn in the case of a missing, Illinois. Boy ABC's with Johnson has more heartbreak for the family of missing Timothy Pitts it after the FBI announced a DNA test confirms the mysterious young man who showed up in Kentucky is not who he claimed to be devastating. It's like reliving that day all over again. And. Timothy's father is devastated once again, instead authorities say this is not a boy at all. But at twenty three year old man from Ohio, Bryan, Michael Rennie prison records their show a man with the same name serve time for burglary and vandalism. They want to know why he told this elaborate tail giving a family false hope. Back to grow zero for us. I'm kind of reliving everything that did happen. And. Renewing the loss. One more time since twenty eleven pinson's family has searched for the little boy who vanished with his mother when he was just six years old, which is more devastated. Anything else? Where's Tim ad? I knew it wasn't go get him despite anything to come back. His mother seen on surveillance taking him out of school and on a trip to a zoo and water parks days later committing suicide leaving a chilling note saying Timothy was safe, but would never be found parents involved in the college admissions cheating scam appeared in Boston federal court this week on charges. They paid bribes to get their kids into elite colleges one parent involved in the scam says he intends to plead guilty ABC's. Aaron Katersky has more. Gordon Kaplan, the co-chairman of the international law firm, willkie Farr and Gallagher said in a statement, he intends to enter a guilty plea to the criminal charge against him. Kaplan allegedly paid seventy five thousand dollars to rig his daughter's age. ACT? His statement said she had no knowledge whatsoever about what he had done and has been devastated to learn it Kaplan said he's deeply ashamed and pledged to win back the trust and respect of his daughter, family and community a Pennsylvania judge handed out the first jail sentences in the 2017 hazing death of a nineteen year old Penn State fraternity pledge three of the former Penn State fraternity brothers accused in the hazing death of nineteen year old pledge Tim Piazza will spend time behind bars. They are the first of the twenty sixth form former students to be sentenced lucht Visser, Michael Bonnici and Joshua zoo. Sqi will spend one to nine months in jail. They pleaded guilty to hazing and conspiracy to commit hazing. It was more than two years ago when Piazza died after falling down a flight of stairs at an alcohol fueled frat party, the brothers serving him more and more alcohol and after the fall waiting twelve hours to call nine one one Piazza's parents say only one former frat brother has shown. Any remorse. Everyone else just seem to want to move on with their life. And no one has reached out to us or apologize to us. ABC's GIO Benitez new concerns over the safety of rideshare services following the death of a university of South Carolina student who was killed after getting into what she thought was her Uber ride ABC's Victor KENDALL in Columbia, South Carolina with details. University of South Carolina. President sending a school wide letter to all students urging them to simply ask the rideshare driver. What's my name before getting into a car at a double check, the make model and license plate? The twenty one year old was last seen early Friday morning huffing into achieve mistakenly thought was her Uber. Police say the man behind the wheel rolling kidnapped and kilter Sackler family behind the pharmaceutical company Purdue is facing a major lawsuit accused of making billions by feeling the opioid crisis. ABC's Paula Farris has more factor. Family one of the richest. Ed most connected families in the country is now under siege. Age their company Perdue pharma, which created the highly popular highly addictive painkiller. Oxycontin is. Now facing an avalanche of scrutiny. A New York lawsuit accuses the family of raking in a fortune not only by fueling the nation's historic opioid epidemic. But also marketing treatments for the very addiction. The recused of creating the Sackler dynasty began when three brothers purchased a tiny company in the fifties. That business is now three generations deep the family's net worth an estimated thirteen billion dollars. The Sackler name is known around the globe. There's an entire Sackler wing at the met the Sackler library at Oxford even the Sackler gallery in London's Kensington gardens, the lawsuit names, eight members of the family and ten other manufacturer and distributor defendants claiming that Purdue pharma thought to expand the Oxycontin, Mark. The complaint cites Richard Sackler is two thousand one Email allegedly blaming those who are addicted. It says we have to hammer on the abusers in every possible way. They are the culprits and the problem, they're reckless criminals. A statement from the family spokesperson calls lawsuits in New York and Massachusetts filled with claims that are demonstrably false an unsupportable by the actual facts. But now this philanthropic empire facing backlash at the very institutions. They have donated to. Protesters tossing prescription bottles at their wing at the New York Metropolitan Museum of art. And at the Guggenheim where the Sackler donated seven million dollars officials say they will no longer accept their money and donations newsy opium airlines said faulty sensor. Data led to the crash of flight three oh to the strongest link yet between last month's crash on the Tober lion. Aircrash off Indonesia Boeing now acknowledges the link between the two recent crashes of it's seven thirty seven max, eight planes. It's our responsibility to eliminate this risk we own it. And we know how to do it going CEO Dennis Muilenburg for a second time. British Prime Minister Theresa may has asked the European Union to delay her country's exit from the EU ABC's. Tom rivers reports from London finally Bush's, come to shove, Britain's beleaguered prime minister wants a compromise deal. And that will take some time a few more weeks to ensure we leave in a time. Family and orderly way. The current stalemate is dragging the country down frustration intentions arising passions, running high on all sides, if the government, but we can and must find the compromises that will deliver what the British people voted full. Theresa May wants the deal delivered and approved by may twenty second. Tom rivers ABC news, London. Officials in Uganda have expanded the search for American tourist Kimberly sue Endicott kidnapped along with her driver while on safari kidnappers demanding half a million dollars in ransom. ABC news senior foreign correspondent in panel reports from Uganda relatively Uganda is actually very safe, but this area is rice on the border with the Democratic Republic of Congo with the area of North Kivu. And this is area that's notorious the banditry for owned vanishes. We know the militias do cross ova at the moment. They still think this is just most of ated by cold hard cash. Los angeles. Police say it was a personal dispute that led to the killing of Grammy nominated rapper nipsy hustle. But to many in his hometown hustle was more than an artist. He was just there for community for the keys. He made it he brought it back. He was just there for all of us. ABC's Adrian bankers spent the week in Los Angeles. He seemed to walk a fine line between the hood and a hope for a new world rising. Rising out of comedy and violence making it big born or maya's astrodome. He started out selling mix tapes from his card front. He famously sold CDs for one hundred dollars empowering his Indy. Label all money in finding success in using teaming has independent label with Atlantic records many of his anthems including the title track on his album victory laps every field. Janko speak to the disparity between the life. He was living and the life. He came from hustle was all in committed to ridding the streets of the same violence that in snared him as a youth. He admitted to being a member of a gang and even spent time behind bars hustle began buying up space on Crenshaw boulevard and slauson avenue. Combining his street cred with his business savvy transforming the block of visionary he built in inner city empire. The crown jewel of his ventures. The marathon clothing company. Then just outside the marathon. The very place where hope was born for so many a gunman ended nipsy hustles life with the shot to the head. Changed music forever. Twenty five years after his death, remembering vonda frontman, Kurt cobaine when world news this week continues. When it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot com. Get started today at indeed dot com slash world week. That's indeed dot com slash world week with the Capital One venture card. You earn unlimited double miles on every purchase every day, and you can use those miles our travel expenses like flights hotels, rental cars and more capital. One. What's in your wallet credit approval required capital? One Bank USA NA he ushered in a new era of music. A look back at the lasting legacy of Kurt Cobain twenty-five years after his death. Here's ABC's Jason Nathanson twenty-five years ago. April fifth one thousand nine. Eighty four. It was a suicide that stunned the world tonight word of an untimely death. Kurt cobaine was the lead singer of the group nirvana on paper, Kirk obey everything the top rock band in the world, the love of millions of fans a wife and new baby daughter, but he also had a crippling heroin addiction and personal demons Cobain killed himself at his Seattle home, April fifth nineteen Ninety-four leaving behind a suicide note read to fans by widow Courtney love. Piece map at the. Kurt Cobain biographer Charles cross houses, cobaine changed popular music. You're honest music was about the internal dialogue of Kirk cobaine depression, angst alien Asian those suddenly became themes that rock songs could be found. And you know, that has stretched over to wrap into other things. Kurt Cobain was twenty seven when he died. Jason Nathanson, ABC news Hollywood. And those are the people and events that made world news this week world news this week was written and produced by Smith shea Shadrach. Seeing the ABC news New York. When breaking news changes the world ABC news accurate credible and unmatched on Twitter at ABC News Radio. Are you hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes? Set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today at indeed dot com slash world week. 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