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Fall Home Lawn Improvement Practices
"I always get a ton of questions related to Homeland care and I can understand because homeowners may not know exactly when is the best time to perform specific practices. There's not really a guy that's available that kind of walks them through how to do things so I can see why it would be so confusing. So today's episode is strictly everything that you need to know about fall home line and Pregnant practices right here in Kentucky. So several people come into the extension office and they say I had trouble establishing a good stand of grass. I've noticed several bare spots. I even have more weeds than I seem to have a desirable lawn grass. And so if you answered yes to several of those questions fall is the absolute best time to carry out several Homeland Improvement practices, and that just gives you an improvement of the appearance in dog. Kentucky lawn so today on episode 11 of the sunshine gardening podcast. I am diving in and sharing the top four secrets to help improving your home line. This fall wage for all the details. Make sure you stay right here on the sunshine gardening podcast. Welcome to the sunshine gardening podcast this gardening show will equip and Inspire Avid gardeners with weekly tips and tricks to help them navigate the gardening world the show will also be like specific growing requirements for several plants. So the sun will shine brighter over there Kentucky garden and now here is that ray of sunshine Garden enthusiasts and Horticulture Extension agent Kristin Hildebrand with the University of Kentucky Cooperative Extension Service, especially since people are spending more time at home. There have been a lot more questions related to how to improve the appearance at the home line, but simply people just don't know where to begin or even how to carry out the specific processes that they're looking for. And the good news is that today's podcast is going to cover the top four things on how to get started on improving the look of your Kentucky lawn. Now, I want to mention the corporate wage. Extension service has a ton of resources and Publications that can help you guys and one of the resources that you can pick up at your Kentucky extension office is called the Turf Care calendar and this specifically is concentrated on cool-season lawn grasses here in Kentucky. So in Kentucky, we are in the transmission sound. So that means that we can grow both cool and warm season grasses, but because of the research we have found out that cool-season Lawns actually perform better off or homeowners and in a Homeland type situation. So specifically this publication is going to touch on cool-season lawns that include Kentucky Bluegrass tall fescue fact is keys and perennial ryegrass. And the the way that this publication is laid out is that you see the management practice listed at the top and then you have a church Month of the year light out. So January all the way to December and then again underneath of management practices. It's going to give you all those practices including verifying learning mowing lower maintenance nitrogen fertilization when to put down pre herbicides or pre-emergent herbicides for annual grassy weed control poem herbicide applications for both annual grassy weeds and broadleaf weeds seating for either renovation or initial establishment sodding and wins the same time for a Curative and preventive white grub control. So there's a lot of good information in this guide and when we mentioned that each month of the year is also laid out and it's color coordinated. So the green part is going to tell you or indicate when is the best time to perform that activity and then the yellow part off? Going to give you the second best time to perform that activity and then anything obviously in the white is a do not perform this activity. So as of October 2020 wage the things that you might want to be considering as the best time for performing any kind of home loan Improvement practices, those would include verifying liming bowing and also nitrogen fertilization post herbicides for broadleaf weeds. And also if you're considering maybe putting down some side wage, so those are all things that are going to be in that green area to indicate. When is the best time to carry out that specific practice and for each of these practices, there's also of note that goes along with each of those sections so specifically with verifying that's going to be listed first and it says here in the footnotes that knob All lines need to be verified or detached. These only need to be done. If the soil is excessively hard or a great deal of that exist and not all confirmed alon's have a lot of fat but a lot of people out there do think they've got to do that and for more information, you can check out aerith acacian and detaching and it also gives a public phone number specifically igr fifty-four on a terrifying and detaching lines. So this is a great way, especially if you have any of those cool-season line grass is anger Kentucky lawn to know simply when is the best time to perform the activity. And again, those are going to be listed in the green and when is the second best time to perform those activity which are also going to be listed in the yellow? So if you don't catch something during the absolute best time, then you can catch it on the second window or wave and still kind of get some success from birth. Even as you're doing that specific practice, so that's basically kind of the resource that you can obtain specifically from The Cooperative Extension Service is to check out their calendar for war cool season lawn grasses here in Kentucky. So the next thing that I'm going to share with you today as a secret is what is the best game on grass for Kentucky now? I kind of already alluded to some of that especially with the talking about the turf pair calendar in the cool season grasses, but specifically that other resource that I want to tell you about is that through the Turf Care type sections there is specifically some information to know on selecting the right grass for Kentucky lawn. It seems like Turf type tall fescue seems to be the best and has proven through the research through the University of Kentucky to actually do the job. It seems like though. Some people are still thinking Kentucky 31 is the best type to actually so for their home lines, and I totally get off because several people have used it and said it comes up very good and it's something that their grandparents or parents had and they just continue on with that process. Well, the good news is that there's other varieties that have come out since then that have actually done better performed better. They have better color. They also have a finer texture to change it and the best part is are more dense which meaning they're more Compact and they're going to perform better especially against a lot of diseases and also we'd pressure that comes into play off the summer months. So these grasses the turf type tall fescue use are going to do the best choice for most lines across the region. So some of the best cultivars for here in Kentucky are going to be cultivars like regenerate grade 3 Hemi Catalyst, Bullseye Falcon for Falcon V Torino off and Firebird and all of these Turf type cultivars again have a finer texture a darker green color, which is very desirable for home line type situation and they're going to be much more dense than Kentucky 31 the other thing to kind of think about as far as Turf type tall fescue goes is that some of the other major qualities that they have them or that they are very good traffic tolerance. So that means that they're going to handle a lot of traffic especially if it's due to recreational type play foot traffic. Maybe you've got home. Some other type of foot traffic on your lawn. So it's going to do well there. There's no serious insect problems that are associated with it. It's going to be very competitive against we'd sure there's no Sach built up if you're worried about that little if any irrigation is required except obviously during drought type conditions. And then the other thing is that it's relatively fast to establish and germinates and generally occurs in about 7 to 10 days. So those are all really good things that tall fescue can give you for your birthday take you on now with everything there could be good things mostly but then there's going to be some slight drawbacks. So just to make you aware of some of those issues that can come into play with Turf type tall fescue was generally going to require more frequent mowing than Kentucky Bluegrass to look its best. Delete blades can shred if the mower blades off I kept sharp. So that's one of the things that you want to do as a homeowner is to keep those mower blades sharp and brown patch disease may be an issue. But specifically it's only during the hot bath with summer. So not every summer is going to be the same in Kentucky, but it's only when it has the conditions that it's hot and it's going to be a wet summer and then the terms has little resiliency and lateral spread is sometimes very slow. So those are just some common drawbacks. But if you are looking to some other cool-season grasses or save long-term season grasses, you can check out our publication at the University of Kentucky on selecting the right grass for your Kentucky lawn and at the end of the show notes, I'll post that link up if you want to check it out. But again, it just seems like Turf type tall fescue seems to do the absolute best. So number three is all about soil tests old tests and against all tests. So the secret to having a nice looking yard is back conducting I Sault Ste. I often say that the secret to good plant growth is through the soil and by testing the soil this process gives homeowners the exact recommendations for lime and fertilizer rates that are needed to reach optimal plant growth. So to improve the appearance of the line first start with the soil test. So the way that you're going to test for someone to test your soil. If you've never done it before you want to sample about the top two to four inches of soil and you can use a garden shovel or a trial or if you want to invest a little bit of money. I would highly encourage you to invest in a solar probe which gives you a perfect Court each and every time so what you're going to do is you're going to collect soil from the different location. In your yard at random and make sure to avoid getting any sort of grass clippings or leaves whenever you're sampling this can alter your sample and again to Thursday is Sol test. We just need straight soil. Now, some people will sample their front yard separately from their backyard and we see that a lot and if you have a large area around your home as far as your line goes, then some people will break it down. Here's my front yard. And here's my sample for my backyard cuz I'd like to do it differently and that's perfectly fine, Even seen some people break it down into side yards if they want to do that as well. Now whenever you're collecting your soil again at that 224 inch that make sure you put the soil in a clean five gallon bucket. Go ahead and repeat this process about 10 to 12 different times and mix all the samples together again, remember to avoid Any kind of grass clippings or leaves when you sample now if it's rained for you know a little bit and you got some excess moisture in that soil allow that sample to drop off on newspaper for about 24 hours after you've collected your soil sample. Go ahead and bring your sample into your local extension office. There may be a small should be that you have to pay but I promise you this that it is well worth every penny and every dollar amount that's needed because it gives you the exact recommendations on what you need not apply as far as lime and fertilizer and everything that you need to know. So just know that you'll have to give your person who's taking in your sample some basic information about the crop being ground and generally what happens is that once we get all that information will send it off and then what happens is that the results come back to them. Extension agent that's in charge to that particular area. They look it over. It might be highlight it right some notes to you. And so generally the most it takes is about seven to ten days should be processed. So really it's fairly fairly quick and it gives you again the exact measurements of things that you need for improvement in your home line. Now my final tip that I have for you today is also something that you can do right now in the fall for October is fertilizing your home line. So fertilization is an important part of maintaining a home lawn and here in Kentucky again, cool season grasses can be fertilized right now. And if you fertilize in the fall off Route system is going to be a lot stronger. It's going to be able to make it through the winter months and then whenever the spring gets here, it's going to look really really good. So it's good not to think about fertilization not only in October but September as soon as you can do it and then November you can even get into that meant I think just the tide bit first part of December if they you split it up. So now the other thing that you want to think about whenever you're fertilizing your lawn is the number of times that nitrogen fertilizer is going to be applied. So depend on what lawn quality that you desire so most general home lines with no irrigation are going to be maintained at the low to medium maintenance level jobs and both of these levels require either one or two applications of nitrogen. And so you want to make sure you have that soil test in hand to know the exact recommendations for your home line. So really take advantage of your soil testing service get your soul tested and then you will know exactly how much fertilizer is far as nitrogen off needs to be applied for your Kentucky Home Lawn. And if you do all of these things that we mentioned performing in at the right time selecting the right grass for your Kentucky on make sure to do that soil test first and then fertilize you're going to be doing so much better than say your neighbors if they hadn't performed any of these steps. Now, I know that these top for ways to improve your home line is going to be a good starting step. But I also have a free resource that I want to offer to you today as well. And this freeze a great source will help you improve the appearance of your Homeland plus it'll give you other things that you need to do for your Homeland such as mowing verifying how to calibrate your fertilized eggs and so much more even things like controlling moles for your yard and also maybe getting into some grub control as well. So this free resource that I'm offering up today is called the Homeland Improvement guidebook in this guidebook will assist you in making the best decisions for how and when to improve the appearance of your home line here in Kentucky. So this guidebook will assist you in making those decisions for when and how to improve the appearance and material in this guide book is obviously provided by our specialist through Thursday. Mercy of Kentucky Cooperative Extension Service and even other extension professionals. So it's something that you will need and it's something that's reliable and it applies at research-based information wage we have available. So I hope you take me up on getting a resource book from us on the home line Improvement guidebook. If you'd like more information about that, make sure to visit us on the blog at Warren County Agriculture. Now, I hope that you enjoyed this episode of the sunshine gardening podcast. And if you want to check out more resources from today's show make sure to say the show notes that will be posted on the blog at Warren County Agriculture. You can visit the blog at Warren County agriculture.com to stay up-to-date on all the latest episodes. Make sure to hit the Subscribe button wherever you get your podcast as always gardeners keep digging into gardening and remember to add a little sunshine. Thanks for listening to the sunshine birth. Podcast with Kristin Hildebrand, if you enjoyed today's content, make sure to hit the Subscribe button, wherever you get your podcast to catch future segments of the sunshine gardening podcast gardeners, just keep on digging and learning more about gardening. So the sun shines brighter over your Kentucky Garden the sunshine gardening podcasts with Kristin Hildebrand is a production of the University of Kentucky Cooperative Extension Service. off
Facing Lawsuits Over Opioid Epidemic, Purdue Pharma Considers Bankruptcy
"This message comes from NPR sponsor. Comcast business. Business has always been driven by innovators. That's why Comcast business is helping you with technology that provides better experiences. Comcast business beyond fast lawsuits connected to opioids have been really bad for drug makers and this year alone. There have been a lot of them. So many that one company Purdue pharma, the maker of Oxycontin says it might file for bankruptcy north country. Public radio's Brian man reports in a statement sent to NPR Purdue pharma spokesman Bob Josephson said the company has made no decisions, but is considering all its options, and that includes bankruptcy Richard house. This is a law professor at the university of Kentucky who follows opioid litigation closely. I guess they're serious if you declare bankruptcy. There's an automatic stay all the lawsuits that would be a serious blow to the more than fifteen hundred local and state governments suing big pharma. They argue companies like Purdue triggered the opioid epidemic. By aggressively marketing highly addictive painkillers, they want help paying for things like increased law enforcement and rehab programs Adams Zimmerman and opioid litigation expert at Loyola University says companies like Purdue facing a barrage of civil claims often use bankruptcy to limit their exposure, bankruptcy, starkly, drew nevi. One of the most powerful tools for the Bendon rum as best as companies the night nineties through today. PGA bankruptcy as a way who globally. Resolve large numbers of lawsuit. Purdue is a privately held company internal documents made public in recent months showed the Sackler family which owns a controlling interest pulled roughly four billion dollars out of the company while pushing opioid sales legal experts differ on whether those profits would be affected by produce. Bankruptcy Zimmerman thinks the Sackler private fortune could be vulnerable. The company that declared bankruptcy has the ability to go up there. The other party in order to clawback money that that wrongly taken away from a company that actually happened in in the main bankruptcy, though, that definitely could happen case. Like this to these opioid lawsuits target a wide range of companies, including Purdue, but also name brand companies like CVS, WalMart and Johnson and Johnson. If Purdue does seek bankruptcy protection, the whole, interlocking web of cases becomes much more complicated in trials could be delayed by months or years. Richard house nicotine university of Kentucky says government swing big pharma are already turning their sights on other opioid manufacturers with more assets than Purdue Jonathan Johnson is really getting hammered by the AGA and Oklahoma, and they do have pickpockets and probably wouldn't be candidates for bankruptcy. Well, Purdue pharma weighs its options. The company hoped to delay the first big test trial in Oklahoma state court this week a judge rejected the request, and that's civil. Case we'll go forward as scheduled in may, Brian man, NPR news. This message comes from NPR sponsor Capital One offering a variety of credit card options with features for a range of customers from foodies to travelers Capital One what's in your wallet credit approval required capital. One Bank USA NA.
History of the Kentucky Civil War Roundtable
"Welcome to the witnessing history education foundation podcast educating Americans to understand the history of their country and of other countries. So that they will appreciate the value of America's unique free institutions become an American hero. Who participates in our mission by joining us at witnessing history dot ORG. Download our documentaries and free teacher education materials that conform to grade level education standards at PBS learning media dot ORG, follow witnessing history on Facebook, Twitter and linked in today. Our guest is witnessing history education foundation's president can't master sim Brown. He is here to provide us with the story behind the country's second oldest and the largest civil war roundtable the Kentucky. So. Civil war. Roundtable Ken is the current president of the Kentucky civil around table, which meets five times per year over dinner with guest speakers who travel from all over the country to appear before are the membership of about three hundred eighty people. The meetings are held at the embassy suites on Newtown pike for more information, go to the website at Kyi, civil war, roundtable dot ORG. Now, let's listen to a short excerpt of the recording from the October nineteen fifty to address of attorney in Lincoln scholar. William H Townsend of Lexington Kentucky appearing before the Chicago, civil war roundtable, discussing Kentucky legend caches Marcellus lay. Have to pray shun had one, Sean. Brutus clay who you know, rose fell and such. I'm at a curry enough for one time when I was writing drive down over visit deal. And as he stood framed in the doorway arm or gray Jaakko. Away. The myself that the old line would never be dead knowledge. His son. And I had a very pleasant time with it. Too many pictures air e-even book, I assure you that I wanted all controversial question. I continue to do that matter of fact until one time. Morning 'cause Hamburg and. Share with adverse? Leks? Are they coming to Lexington? Car called me up to be at the day out. I feel sure that he needed this from Kentucky tavern. What I was at. Then all sad that now are you going to write the light of cases invade? If you don't go to write it. And. What are we going to name going to call it? They Magnussen bladder sky. That. General got any sudden in? But he's got a daughter is lower. Live in that she retaliated heavily on that. Live with regret big woman trapped ya'll and one time in a democratic state convention. I heard her make us beach at made the delegates tab that go ahead. The lie. I did was I haven't either over the register. I've alleged ties together you live together. Make in that. I can't protect the writer, and I got time to do it. Let me all right. Tell Nick Lara when I see. So I went up Steve as I am to do that before. Spoke back quickly advantage. He had nobody. But a Kentucky. Good, dan. My father. And I'm all right for me to write alive. General quite. I did you have to go into great mundane that were controversial during his life and unpleasant the families that just record ball and his wife Mary ship. All right. He acted a cheating a good sport about that. And chart at that. She died other things intervene into life day is not yet. Delighting to remember that after the civil war clay has put Visteon prepped, you tell us something he had. Birth. Glam vision beginning when he got back from the AM strange enough. How did it? But he won two straight terms and the state out. You'd have told you our goal in the sixty rather than the United States Senate. Then of course, he wanted to take a day of war in Lincoln's cabinet. Got across to Petersburg. He bested Lincoln about getting into the war on dill Lincoln, finally eight him come back about teams to made a major. You a couple of battle. But he found out that the night at work. In our interest and went back to Russia. Where are you? Tonight. He lives I think a candidate for governor. I remember directly later on in his life. Whatever political admissions, he had I think he surely must have known that. He could hardly realize them matter principle and much as he such that only say, but they just. I want to seem the letters that he sent to Charles Dane suggestion himself to the president. I very sure that he cable. Will come Kent. Good beer. Is good to talk about the Kentucky civil around table. It's a great institution that is a great institution now. So let's talk about William towns in for a minute. Who is he Bill as we I knew Bill, and he he was born in Anderson county Kentucky, and that's lawrenceburg, and there's even a historical marker it is birth site. Bill was raised there. He is the only person I've ever known in my life who turned to me and told me of the Mexican war veterans. He knew growing up. That takes it back pretty far. He was born about eighteen ninety. And he died in nineteen sixty four, but he knew just a lot of people who not only Mexican war veterans, but particularly civil war veterans, and he became enamored with history as a young boy, he went to the university of Kentucky. And then the university of Kentucky law school. And began practicing law here in Lexington and practice practice it under a firm called stall Muir, Townsend and park, and they were in the old first national building on main street and upper and he took his interest in history to some significant links one he became a namrd with ABRAHAM LINCOLN. And I think what got him into Lincoln was his friendship with William Barton. William Barton was one of the great Lincoln scholars in the nineteen thirties and forties. He wrote a biography wrote a two volume biography from Kentucky. No, but Barton befriended Townsend, and he introduced house into a lot of people like Carl Sandberg, who of course, ROY. A multi volume biography of ABRAHAM LINCOLN towns than wound up writing a book called Lincoln in his in his wife's hometown, which show is a study of Lincoln's connection with Lexington. And that became a book the university of Kentucky press. Now, the university press of Kentucky published as Lincoln and the bluegrass in the nineteen fifties. And it was a very popular book. When I was a boy. And so those were his major books, but then he also produced all sorts of other side things like a book called hundred proof which were stories of the Salt River. These are stories he grew up with well now, he's from the town that that houses the wild Turkey still. As as the as the as his talk that we've just heard the fragment. He laced everything with references to bourbon whiskey refers to it in their is Kentucky tavern. I think Carl Sandberg would like a little Kentucky tavern of. But Bill became the first president. He's really the organizing a person behind the Kentucky civil war roundtable and was its first president until he died nineteen sixty four. So that's Bill. Yes. And now he had some other connections with ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Will he he was a collector? Yes, linked Konia. He collected all sorts of Lincoln documents Lincoln legals Lincoln signatures. He also befriended as a young lawyer here in Lexington. The the son of Benjamin Hardin helm, the confederate Brigadier General who was. Killed at chick Amata and his his son Ben Hardin helm junior lived south of Lexington in a place still called the helm place was brought up there by his mother who was the widow of general helm, Emily and two sisters. Well, let's talk about Emily for a minute. She has a very important connection to ham Lincoln. She has a huge connection of as do all. These are Emily is one of the children of the second marriage of Robert Todd who was married Todd Lincoln's father her mother died relatively young and Todd remarried, married, Elizabeth Humphreys and from that second marriage. He had multiple children one of whom was Emily. So Emily is the half sister of Mary Todd Lincoln, and she's the one who married Ben Hardin helm, the confederate Brigadier General, one of those interesting things about all this, frankly is who in Robert Todd's, the children of his first marriage all became fundamentally pro union during the civil war is daughter Mary Todd, married, the president of the United States, but the children from his second marriage all of Mary Todd, Lincoln's half siblings. All all the boys became confederate officers or confederate soldiers. All the girls married confederate officers. Two of them even lived in Selma, Alabama in the war broke out stitch together. The battle flag of the magnolia graze from a company of infantry from Selma and both of them attended Jefferson, Davis's inaugural. Imagine that all this kind of stuff in Namur Billtown. He loved this stuff. And it's so much of what he did. Form the platform on which so much. Other work has been done on Lincoln his relationship with Lexington. Which is probably the third most important town in his life. Well, and Phil ends up. Marrying the beautiful daughter of his friend, Ben Hardin, helm junior and ends up living, no less than in the home place. He didn't marry the daughter. Okay. I've been Hardin how junior he befriended. Ben. Okay. Then was a bachelor. Okay. And Ben lived out there. Now, what happened was that built Howson's daughter? Mary Genevieve, Mary Joe Murphy and those two lived in the hell place. I see that works. Okay. I had that MC Steph a little bit. Okay. He Bill basically took care of been helm junior. And Ben apparently turned to Bill and said look at a it's all years if you take care of me, and you know without pensions and without. All sorts of nursing care, and those days, it was nice to have someone agree to help you and it was worth a lot. And for Ben hell, that's what he did. And Bill took care of him. And at the end Bill got the house gave it to his daughter and been out there. Many many times with Bill daughter and her husband, so lovely place. It's beautiful a lovely place. A Greek revival mansion building out eighteen fifty two beautiful place. So that's built towns, and what are some of the artifacts he collected? And where could we see them today? We'll. Some of the Lincoln artifacts. Let me give you a story. I like story. My first introduction with Bill. Townsend was in November nineteen fifty nine. Now, I would have been ten going on eleven and I went to the Kentucky civil war roundtable when it was it was being held in the gold room of the Lafayette hotel. Which is now the government building down on mainstream. Then it was a beautiful hotel Laureus ballrooms, and and the round table met in this the gold room, which is absolutely gorgeous. Anyway, my host who was also my the family doctor William team accent asked me would you like to go up and meet Mr. Townsend, and I said I'd love to. 'cause I'd heard about him. And so I went up there and up they're going up there with us was Dr maxim son film action who was a young chum of mine growing up and has been a friend of mine ever since is to this day and like his father. He's a loyal member the Kentucky civil war around table. So I went up to see this fellow in here is this this fellow with the three piece suit seated in the chair behind the speaker stand, and he sees us come up, and he turns in the chair. And he Wight white hair as he says shock of white hair. And he's got this three piece suit with his watch fob. And and he turns into goes, how are you young fellow? And I said, I'm fine. He says I'm Bill Townsend, and I said, well, I'm can't Brown. And this is my friend, Phil Maxon. And towns and shook Phil's hand. And he goes to me do you like a Lincoln? And I said, oh, yes. Mr. towns than I really do like ABRAHAM LINCOLN. Now, get this, folks. He then reaches into his pocket and pulls out a pocket watch. And he says to you know, who's watch this is and I go, no. And he turns it over and it has on the back a Lincoln. And he said, it's Abraham Lincoln's. And he says you see this crease up by the stem. And I said, yes, he says Tina how that crease got there. I said, no. And he says when Lincoln was shot in Ford's better. He said he slumped in the chair and major Rathbone who is his bodyguard ran over and tried to pull him out of the chair and the watch got caught. Now, can you imagine the effect of this on a ten year old kid? My eyes were just popping out of my head. I know we probably would have left head off after this little little deal with me. But he was wearing Lincoln's pocket watch. And then he said, do you know, who's cufflinks these are on? I said they Lincoln's to he says, they are they were he said he wore them the night. He was assassinated see Ben helm gave him those and Ben got him. Because I mean, he he was a. He lived a long time and in that family. The only other living member was raw. It was Abraham Lincoln's oldest son, Robert Robert Todd Lincoln, and Robert Todd would have had them and probably given them Ben Ben helm because there was no one else to take them. So the proven ons of them was darn good those were like artifacts. And those items today as I understand are in the Kentucky. Historical sino. The I have seen the watch at the condition. Historical. Yeah. It's actually in Frankfurt. Yeah. Cufflinks? We don't know. I don't know. And are the famous Lincoln collector of whose name escapes me. It'll come to me but out west actually, I think bought. A lot of the Lincoln artifacts from Mary Genevieve well after Bill passed away she had no way of knowing what to do with all of that. And it was extensive not only Lincoln, but all kinds of things related to cash. Clay, Kentucky, Anna Kentucky history. Bill is a huge collector. Yeah. So so when you met Mr. Townsend as a young boy. Yeah, he was the president was the president the Kentucky civil roundtable. So let's talk about what are these roundtables that you're referencing? What what how did these get going? The the God going frankly with the Chicago civil war roundtable this Chicago, civil war roundtable, the organization that Bill gave that famous speech to fragment which you just heard. He gave out in nineteen fifty two October of nineteen fifty two Chicago civil around table began not too far before then, and it's whole mission was simply to have meetings than like, Chicago roundtable were meeting monthly, but having meetings where they could invite notable speakers and then discuss the American civil war and give people an opportunity to to do that. And that roundtable was put together much like this one by people who had an academic interest in the civil war were academics. But also people who simply had an avocation interest in the civil war some people who had a commercial interest in the civil war like the the owner of the ABRAHAM LINCOLN bookshop in Chicago in Chicago, which is still being operated. A Ralph Newman was his name. And these people had huge interest in not just to sell things, but an interest themselves. That's what got them into the business of of running a bookshop like that. So all those kind of people came together in Chicago, they referred to it as a table because that was kind of the the vision of this something like king Arthur's of famous crew that sat around round table in Britain. And these were the select, and that's kind of the thought behind it. And once the Chicago civil war roundtable began going in earnest you saw some other start to spring up. The second one though was the Kentucky civil war roundtable. And what happened was Bill went up there and gave that speech, and he was so well. Saved. I mean, it was a tremendous. And he went up there with his old friend j Winston Cullman who is another really close friend of mine for years. We were great buddies other two of them went up there. Townsend and Coleman were inseparable, and he gave that talk and came back so fired up about the idea of an organization had just had speakers on the civil war that he decided why don't we form one? And so in October nineteen sixty nineteen fifty three. Bill Townsend called an informal group to his law office on main street and to discuss forming forming around table and by the way by nineteen October nineteen fifty three. That speech. He gave had already been put on thirty three and a third RPM records, and we're sold all over the country. Civil around him. Benefit of ABRAHAM LINCOLN books you. Yes. Yes. No man was recording. This unbeknownst Bill towns. And here's a funny story about that Bill. I mean, people were asking if you got the record that you of your of your of your speech, Bill goes, hell, no, hell, no. Like this. No one ever told me he was being recorded. He really got mad about it. And he threatened to sue Ralph Newman for for doing that. But then one day he gets a letter in the mail that up on the upper left of the envelope. Breeds the White House. And and he opened this envelope up and unfolds the letter, and it says, dear Mr. Townsend Mamie, and I have listened to your recording on caches, Marcellus clay, and we found it. The most entertaining speech we ever heard signed to David Eisenhower and with that he gave up all thoughts of suing round. Win viral viral viral in nineteen fifty three and it went viral thirty three and a third. By the way, their people to this day will come up to me at the roundtable or the places they do you have a copy of that speech. Bill towns, if you don't got one I can give you. I mean, it's just you can't imagine the number of people that don't copies of that to me. Unbelievable. So ours was founded in started in nineteen fifty three and let me let me tell you some of the people who are with him who. These are the founding spirits around hip, of course, Bill Townsend. He's he's holding forth in his own law. Herman Lee Donovan who was president of the university of Kentucky. I didn't know Dr Donovan, but he had a marvelous reputation in this town. Then eighty kirwin kirwin. I knew kirwin ABC kirwin was the was a historian did some extraordinarily fine work on John J Crittenden and then Johnny green of the orphan brigade. He's the one who originally edited that fine book kirwin came from Louisville. He played football at the university of Kentucky and became during World War Two the football coach, and you can imagine in the middle of World War Two. What Kentucky's football team was like not much. It wasn't much throughout my young life. But it must've been really at a low ebb during Curran's coaching tenure there and he became president of the university Kentucky. So he was there a great historian. But also, a an early administrator of the university of Kentucky a home in Hamilton was their home and became a very, dear dear friend of mine, and and. And Homan Homan came from Fort, Wayne, Indiana, he went to Williams College, and then got into journalism and was a a newspaper man for the Fort Wayne news, and while he was a newspaper man, he wrote the two volume biography of saccharine Taylor. And he was he's like Bill Townsend he had a profession, but he was so interested in history that he writes two volumes. The only Barbara Fay's Baga fee of Zachary Taylor ever done. I mean, far as I'm concerned, and then he decided in midlife I'm going to go I'm gonna get up. So he gets up at the university of Kentucky, and then becomes a professor. So he's attending this meeting as a fellow who is in his final years. It is getting his PHD. In history, and he became one of the most popular historians and professors ever at the university of Kentucky. And if you knew him, you'd know why he's was the perfect gentleman. A- terrific human being also present was another old friend for whom I worked for many years Hamilton tap. Dr tap came from Springfield Kentucky. Went to center. College was a graduate of the class of nineteen twenty two. And he was there for the famous football was there during nineteen twenty one the famous football game with Harvard, and I asked him once if he went he said, no I didn't go the game. But we went down to the Western Union office and listen for it. And they would they would announce as the cables came across. They would go out on the front straight announce Senator just gained two yards. Bobick Mellon took the ball to the right and his tackled around the thirty six yard line of. As close as you got. But. Ham as we all called him became a professor at the university of a longtime educator and became a professor at the university. But more than that, he became the head of the Kentucky life museum, which is now wave land state park out off the Hague mill pike, and I used to work for him out there. But he was he was president j Winston Cullman engineered developer and a amateur history. Really not amateurs were isn't words overused. He was a serious historian wrote a lot of pamphlets a lot of good books and was a great photographer. And so he wrote a lot of photographic works on Kentucky's history. Willard rouse Gylfason, the state geologist who I mean, he's one of the great historians of Kentucky's frontier. Period. Living in Frankfurt. He was a terrific character. A so these were the types that formed the Kentucky around nitsa talented group. A group to say I feel like the leadership still maintains a lot of talent a lot of connections with the university of Kentucky. There's a high level of academic excellence represented there and the roundtables able to draw speakers of just the highest caliber from all over the country. It's an amazing organization. What happened after that initial meeting? They had a second one in Herman Donovan's office at the university. And they're the same group elected the temporary officers and then in November of nineteen fifty three before forty five charter members they conducted their first meeting at the UK student union, and they voted to make those temporary officers permanent. And that was built Townsend as the as the president of the roundtable. And then Hamilton tap as the secretary. He was the secretary for twenty plus years, maybe say nineteen fifty three. Oh, I guess twenty two years. I mean, he was forever. The secretary around able he had a great way with words, which I'll read to you shortly. But. So Edward Dabney who is a banker here in town. The old First National Bank became the treasurer. And they were in the same building is built housing and then the head an executive committee. They put together and get these names Thomas Dyonisis Clark, Tom Clarke, the great story published. Multiple works on Kentucky history. An terrific. Character was one of the he was one of the founding executive committee members of it. Jay Winston, Cullman, Herman dodd-frank Frank rose who is president of Transylvania university. Even Philip Davidson who is president of the university of Louisville, and then Charles farms Lee, who was mayor of Louisville on the executive Willard rouse Gelson that was the crowd that was on the executive committee around any now even today at the meetings are members from Louisville Frankfort long every lurk Sinti, Anna Wease released on the tug fork. So the tradition of traveling to the to the meetings is still from across Kentucky is still it's still it's still mid still maintained. There was there's been something you could tell it as a ten year old attending a meeting downtown. Everyone in. There was one dressed up a number two. They all imbibed before the the meal, which was almost a tradition. It's a ceremoniously imbibed and then sat down for dinner, and we're waited on. They liked to have sit down dinner, and you could tell by just as young kid that these people were one seriously interested in the civil war. They may not know a lot about it. But they're serious interested in learning and they're gentlemen, it was all men then and they were kind to one another. They enjoyed one another's company and that camaraderie. Has been evident throughout the entire life of this organization. Yeah. And it's today persist today, we have men and lots of women who come. Yes. There's still a sense of there's a sense of formality as well as a sense of camaraderie, and it is a great occasion five times a year when people still do that. And like from the very beginning. We do only five meetings a year. This has been a tradition from the very beginning. And we made on in September November January March and may. So if nothing overburdened no-one a Monday night a Monday night. Yeah. And it always to you always depart and a timely way. Never it. It always ends round eight thirty after the speaker and the QNA after the dinners been served speaker gets up. It really is a great occasion move. Yeah. You know, Bill Bill towns died on July twenty fifth nineteen sixty four. Okay. And. The gentleman who became by acclimation, the president of the roundtable on his death was home in Hamilton. And one thing I'll always loved about. This roundtable was the. How well versed in the language all these characters were they really were. You've you heard Bill Townsend. But home in Hamilton was a spectacular rider, a spectacular master of the English language as was Hamilton tap. And the things they wrote about one another about events there. We're we're classic. But this is what Holman Hamilton said at the first meeting of the roundtable after in September after Bill passed away. And he said he said this. Tonight. I would not say a word about the career of William H Townsend or about the charming books. He wrote or the professional triumphs. He scored these are in this fear of common knowledge now appreciation of them has appropriately passed into the public domain and posterity will be earth. Ultimate judge permit me instead to voice for you. What any of you his sincere friends would surely say let it be underscored here. And now that Bill Townsend in this organization built a solid community of spirit and s spray a delightful appreciation of man for man, a brotherliness a rare achievement of. Affection without the slightest sign of affection. This do we not agree is the best in Kentucky. This is friendship. Others might use the very words he used, but those same words would fall lifeless and dull he had a sense of timing a significant pause and awareness of contrast and a flare of drama if Kentucky inns have long combined in an amazingly attractive way characteristics of the earthly and genteel. Here was a man who above all others represented the quintessence of the combination. How rich the heritage how pervasive the influence? How meaningful the tradition? Even we cannot finally say, but who would deny that the colors in the tapestries have Kentucky's historic past seem less likely to fade because a Bill Townsend color, charm, imaginative excursions, tantalizing anecdotes and the zest for reporte. We experienced them all at first hand because we knew it. Ours is a treasure of cultural comradeship with a premium far beyond material calculation, and that salty son of Anderson county is that catalyst to whom we are all indebted like Mark Twain, whom in many ways Bill Townsend so strongly resembles may we not paraphrase the lines of the Australian, poet, Robert Richardson. Warm summer sun shine kindly here. Warm Sud southern wind blow softly here. Green sod above li-, light light good night. Dear friend, goodnight. Goodnight. That's an example, just how incredible. I'm people each list with how beautiful eulogy the most beautiful I ever read ever heard. But that's what he said in that night. The. The the the speaker for the roundtable was the the great historian bell Irvin. Wiley bell. Was a graduate of as berry and got his PHD at Yale. And. Taught it Louisiana state university. And. Then taught at Emory and people like Charlie Roland like Otis single, Terry. Who is president of the university of Kentucky, bud Robertson? They were all students Abell Wiley bell. Wiley was the dean literally the dean of American civil war history. And he wrote not only great books himself. Johnny Ravin, Billy yank to volumes. But he wrote two he edited tons of memoirs and diaries of mostly confederate soldiers because he came from Tennessee and bell was the speaker the night that home and gave that talk and bell got up and before he began his talk. He said built Townsend. Represents to me more of what I love about Kentucky than any human being. I've ever know. What attribute? So. That's a remarkable tribute from Bill. Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful and we've gone through a whole crowd of great presidents. I mean home, and of course, became the president for a significant period of time. I think more than ten years and after Hohmann iae buddy Thompson became president. He is an auction near here in town and real character total character and after him Charlie Roland became president of the roundtable. And of course, we know Charlie Charlie's hundred one year years old this month. He was president from nineteen eighty four until nineteen ninety four and Charlie like Bill Wylie came from east, Tennessee, bell Wiley, love Charlie roll out. He middle issue. But Charlie got his PHD at LSU after getting a master's degree at Vanderbilt, but. Charlie taught at Tulane university. And then became professor of history at the university of Kentucky, and he was above the last of a group of historians at the university all of whom were connected with around table who were among the greatest southern historians in America, one of one of the greatest departments of southern history and in the country and Charlie held forth at the roundtable for for ten years, and Charlie is still is a character. But he carried that torch on through until nineteen ninety four and then James clutter became president. And when he left Jack Cunningham longtime treasure the roundtable took over a lawyer here in town, and then I took over in nineteen two thousand thirteen that's the genealogy. The roundtable the roundtable. Mr. Townsend was something of a poet as well. Your film bourbon in Kentucky begins with a poem. He wrote. That I hope our listeners will look into the film is called bourbon, Kentucky bourbon in Kentucky history distilled. Right. Yeah. And you can see it off and on Kentucky educational television. Yes. And through other forms. I think it's probably. On prime on prime it is. But if you gins with you before portrait of William towns in the old helm place, right reciting, a poem. He wrote about bourbon, right? Yeah. It's a it's a it's a poem. He he wrote about his friend. Jay Winston Cullman. Okay. And without going through all the poem. Yeah. What it is. Talks about how the two of them sit down in front of a fire and talk about Daniel Boone Zachary Taylor, and how they sip are corn. That we'll end this episode the witnessing history education foundation podcast. Thank you. Become an American hero. Who participates in our mission by joining us at witnessing history dot ORG. Download our documentaries and free teacher education materials that conform to grade level education standards at PBS, learning dot ORG follow witnessing history on Facebook, Twitter and linked in.
Aversion to Broccoli May Have Genetic Roots
"This is scientific Americans sixty seconds science. I'm Christopher Dodd Yata. If you have heart disease your doctor might tell you eat more vegetables. Also a tactic that has limited success getting people to change their diets his actually pretty hard. So these are lessons I would give over and over again and I would think won't Myers is so hard to do Jennifer L.. Smith is a nurse researcher at the University of Kentucky who now has a preliminary answer about why changes so hard it might might depend on your genes specifically whether or not you're genetically predisposed to perceive bitterness and therefore bitter veggies her Broccoli is definitely one of them They tend to be cruciferous vegetables like Broccoli Cauliflower Cabbage Brussels sprouts asparagus. If you ever took that test in science class where you put a piece of paper on your tongue to see if it tastes bitter you might already know your bidder status. What Smith did is take saliva samples from one hundred seventy five adults known to be at risk of cardiovascular vascular disease? She then did genetic test to determine whether they had a copy of a bitter taste gene variant. She also had them fill in a questionnaire about their eating habits after after controlling for factors like age gender income and so on Smith found that people with a copy of the bitter sensitive gene variant. Were just forty percent is likely to report eating. A lot of Veggies Edgy has where folks without the gene variant. She's presenting the results this week at the American Heart Association scientific sessions in Philadelphia. If these findings hold up to two more testing Smith says perhaps doctors could advise patients with this gene variant to avoid the most offensively bitter veggies but to try the others or perhaps certain herbs and spices aces might counteract the bitterness. She says of course chefs already figured this out with cheesy Broccoli but for heart patients. The better flavour might not be a favor. Thanks for listening for scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm Christopher Indonesia.
Hour 1: 11/2/18
"Carello everybody. You're looking live at fans Ville a college football utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper where every day is Saturday in. Everyone's a fan even babies and the seasons never change. Because the only season is college football season. Get a taste of fans Ville this fall during a college football game near you Dr Pepper the official Drake of fans Ville grab some today. Fried passion, then patterns re of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show. Our one podcast. Look where we are on a November day, the university of Kentucky who would have believed that on this the first weekend of the month of November the biggest home game in Kentucky history. One of the biggest games in the schools history. And we say Hello to you from. Pretty fired up crowd. The basketball season against Duke will essence begin Tuesday night with a football season is well underway and the cats the cats have a chance to do something tomorrow that they have never done in the modern era punch a ticket to the SEC championship game. Oh, yes. There's another big game in Baton Rouge. We'll talk about that. But the show begins now from Lexington. So pretty high level of enthusiasm on a beautiful forty three degree day. I've been all over the country this week to to the east coast other parts, this is the coldest place. I've been but it's a hottest place when it comes to atmosphere and in physios if you haven't heard by now Kentucky hosting Georgia tomorrow. But we know going election from this crowd and great atmosphere for these guys probably probably is gamed stadium excited for for our players. They've worked sir streaming hard to be put in this position. You don't get in games like this unless you don't, you know, unless you take care of the business that you have to throughout the season at Scooby. What I what I've been dreaming about is going to be that big moment that big game. That's going to be a fight to their their fiscal football team. They get they get after you never really well really experienced to you know, they got some seasons. Guys who played a lot of football championships out to win the SEC east as big as we want program to be certainly going here. I feel like everybody overlooks ah. They always seem. We're the underdog, and we look at that as motivation, we've made it this far, you know, but we still got more. We still got more games. Don't win. We still got more people to prove wrong. Well, they do. And it's pretty amazing. When you think about the last time we were here two years ago on couple of weeks ago for the Mississippi State game a lot hung in the balance and quitting the future of Mark soups. That's no longer a debate. Here. He is well in concert with this program and a chance to do something. Very rare tomorrow. Meanwhile, there is another huge game the SEC west is at stake as well in Baton Rouge. You can often read things into what Nick Sabin says. And what he doesn't say. Have you heard about what he said last night? Well, to be honest with you. I hope we elect a kick ass is what I hope we do. But. Man. Listen, I consider myself, a pretty high ranking save an allergist, I don't ever remember Nick Saban showing that type of confidence before in LSU game all games, but read into that what you may Alabama on its way to Baton Rouge the whole country watching both this game and that game. Yes. He see has had many big games. But rarely has it had a double header like it has beginning at three thirty here tomorrow. So what's on our show this afternoon live from Lexington? Hilo Kappa Lodo, the president of the university of Kentucky, Dr kapalama will be here in just a few minutes. Also co cubic he is going to join us from the university of Florida. Former coach Jim Don talk about one of his proteges Kirby smart Reynolds wolf about the weather from from the Weather Channel, maybe make it warm up the commissioners here. Greg Sankey he'll be. All over the place this weekend. And we look forward to seeing him Brock. You're on the call for the Auburn game are critical game down there and the head coach of the Wildcats Mark stoops will be here in about two hours as well as Tim Tibo, many other gases. Well, our guest lessons about as long as get Desmond. Howard, the big sheer going up for Lara Rutledge athletic director, UK Mitch Barnhart. Jacob Tommy the former tight end Reynolds wolf, again, he's not going away with this type of weather and Matt Jones will be with us in the final hour. Maybe getting the biggest year here. So anyway, we welcome you here. We will try to squeeze in as many phone calls as possible. I know Tuesday night was Halloween, but I'm dressed up as as a snowman today welcoming in winter to the Commonwealth. Let's get going with the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Andrei in the AT L starts us off. Code one in the world. Are you doing in Kentucky? No, one cares about the university of Kentucky and the university of Georgia this weekend, you know, whatever by the talk about coq five. Come on. Background KOMO coat is causing trading a whole nation. It looking at Baton Rouge, Louisiana down Nicholson, drives what the whole nation looking at. We want to see big football. I hope if a good game code. What do you think? You know, I disagree. I think in many ways this game is more intriguing than that game. We've seen that movie before. Komo. I can't tell you. How many times I've gone to tiger stadium expecting something different to happen? And the same thing always seems to happen. Alabama wins. Georgia. Be kentucky. Hughes rented new, you know. George gotta run school bullet up on them. I hope you can give them a good game. Coach. I really do. Listen. I heard Colin cowherd half bad mitt this week on the radio even dough heated like it out the committee voted on the con- playoff. Who? Did you say? Now of ESPN. Okay. See if the best confident at much he doesn't like it. He stated that the number one ranked undefeated team the number one, right? One loss team to Laos team and three laws team. Although in the college football playoff hold off a one conference. He says not good for college football. But SEC, hey, Andrei, let let me say this, and I say this with Collins of personal friend of mine. Here's what he thinks about the the Paul come on. Yeah. You're right about that coach. He's a pundit. Code hope. I hope that L as you can make a big game. But Alabama Tatum. Here's the difference Andrei urine LSU fan, right? Say it loud. You just got through saying I hope my team good. The fans behind me think they're going to win this game. One more thing. Go those fans have been smoking Kentucky bluegrass COCOM ball. Okay. Smoking that blue grass from Kentucky. Thanks. Thanks. Andrea. You got you got. Dennis is up next. It's good afternoon. All we'll conviction. Almo- fast tortures while women and the best in the world. And hello. I have to agree with Andrei. They're going to be a lot of people interested in this game the bar. I just hope it's not a blow out either way out which competitive game. And Joe cats. I love you. And we're gonna win the mar- go pick blue. Kentucky is gonna win. Their fans are winning today. So far, Chris is up next. Go right ahead. Dress. Hey. We are having a blast down here up here wherever we are. Kentucky fan to reality. Check Kentucky this year. Granted they'd be Florida. But they remind me of that Notre Dame team that was the twenty thirteen. We're they're barely beaten teams. They got that great defensive player like Mantar peyot Bennett's, Josh Allen. But then when they actually play a really really good team. Guess what happened? They got being rolled over. And I guarantee you Kirby smart get a go into this game thinking that Kentucky the best team on the planet. And we're going to be ready. I I bet you gotta be like thirty six to fourteen go. Okay. Thanks. We are going to the break. We have a lot more to do here, including the president of the university of Kentucky coming up shortly you capita. He will join us. Also, the head coach of the UK, and the director pretty much the whole whole team will be here today as we are live from Lexington. Listening to Paul finebaum show podcast on a November day in Lexington. We welcome you back to the program this campus is buzzing and. But many believe is the biggest home football game in Kentucky history. We are delighted to walk in the president of the university of Kentucky like Caputo to our program. We've known the president for a long long time before he was president before he was even here in. Thank you so much. It's always great to see you all good to say you thanks for joining the big blue nation. I'm a member. Listen, I I know they're always difficult decisions to make on any college campus. But but you were hearing this narrative disseminated quite a bit today. And and over these last couple of weeks about you, and and Mitch Barnhart and others on this campus, especially YouTube standing firm and support of coach stoops a couple years ago when some were anxious about what the what the president future looked like you must feel pretty good today. Feels great partnership with Mitch Barnhart started my first year here, we put two point three billion dollars of infrastructure improvements in this campus. The first package included Commonwealth stadium new college of business and a brand new science academic building, which which you Catholic expanded. So we invested infrastructure. We got great talent we had to be patient. But we were confident it would pay. And I it's always interesting on the academic side, the residual no one ever knows. What disag- sports means? I mean, we think it means a lot otherwise wouldn't be the investment. But we certainly know what other sports have meant the -versity of Kentucky but a weekend like this. I'm really interested in what happens to you. And the people that you encounter, and what it means low short and long-term for school like this. First of all, we're one of those few academic programs in the country now that charges no student fees to support athletics. And in fact, our athletic department transfers millions of dollars to pay for buildings its entire costs, and and Maine's dollars in scholarships for our students, so totally has that positive effect. But there's you can't put a number on building community strengthen the big blue nation. And it's infectious of people say, gee, we can do this. We can do anything. We can move our graduation rates like we have in the past six or seven years. We are increasing research funding by twenty five percent from last year. We have a thousand more graduates than we did five years ago, and we're reaching more low income underrepresented minorities and all that comes together, it's sort of a culture of a candidate. And especially and I know as the president you're in all residents doesn't matter where you are interested in in the entire university, especially when it comes out and all the different intercollegiate sports, but football is so big it's on such a big stage, and it has been on stage here periodically, but just not consistently the states tomorrow is hard to get any bigger unless you win the game. And then it gets bigger. Counting. Certainly helps and they, you know, the wonderful opportunity. You have is university. President you make students faculty staff and the difference. They make but I've gotten to know some of these players certainly a lot of coaches to see their hard work dedication commitment. Perseverance persistance to pay off of them particularly gratified in not knowing a little bit about your background. And where you have previously lived. You've you've seen college football at a at a pretty high level you understand it. And and I and I I know it must be particularly enjoyable, and and and I want to talk a little bit more about coach stoops because. You mentioned the infrastructure, and that was the tools that that he needed or anyone needed? But what Sokolow's without him because he is a fascinating personality and that he's very low key. He's he's committed. He's fiercely competitive, but what do you think there is about him, and what he has put together that is finally moved this program forward. I remember when Mitch Barnhart came to me and said he had interviewed several candidates, and he thought he had the person he wanted. So then I had an interview with coach stoops from the beginning he had a plan. It was systematic. It was going to be building talent recruiting it was going to take awhile. You can't do this overnight. And then you know, I saw on the good days, and I saw on the tough days. That's when you really learn about somebody, and you realize he has sort of goodness that's important to do these jobs. Cbs his strength that you need and he surrounded himself with great people. So to me those are signals that you got the the great talent pool to go with the infrastructure to make a difference president basketball seasons well underway as well. There's a game tonight obviously to see night against Duke. And and I I was I think we're at the same event a couple of weeks ago, and I ran into I know where John Calipari, and I was really struck. And I shouldn't be because you see this on a daily basis the enthusiasm and the passionate he was displaying for this football program. I thought it it who's in bodyman what a college campus should be about. We're all in this together. The UK is a family athletic department, and all those athletes are certainly strong family. And he's a great member of it in terms of wins and lose wins and losses. I know administrator. Look at bigger pictures in that. But let's talk about. But Tamara would mean. With the victory. And I'll read an recent article we've won ten games twice in a hundred years. Can you imagine what it would mean to be successful Tamar? This place is supported football deeply there's a lot of pinta hopes and dreams to have some of those fulfil starting with Tamar. It couldn't get any better. You know, what's interesting though. And I I was on this campus in nineteen seventy seven a student not not here. But when my my alma mater came here, and I saw it it was it was pretty remarkable. What that season was all about in since? Then since I started doing this. Kentucky fans call up, and they say we really care a lot about football. And I think some people nod their head, but we're seeing it now, and we're seeing, but it wouldn't be possible if the support hadn't been there. Well, it took a lot of people. It's a we moment took everybody to come together. And everybody should feel proud. We win tomorrow. It something the entire big blue nation should feel that they they held a part of the responsibility. Well. I. I know I know what these people think is going to happen. Are they're pretty confident. Present. Thank you, very. It's always it's always great to see in your gracious with your time. Thank you. All right to say what a pleasure president like how joining us here as we continue. We are live in Lexington. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent lightning storm here to describe the event a TV tray. I was watching football and holding a plate of Meatloaf. Bam a bolt of lightning slams into the apartment blowing out the TV in surround sound anything. You could have done to help. I'm a foldable table, not an electric TV. Trae can't help you in a lightning storm. But the guy co insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Go to Geico dot com to see how a forcible renter's insurance can be looking back. We are live in Lexington Kentucky as everyone knows what is going on here and elsewhere. But there plenty of games going on to more than the big two. And we're about to head down to Gainesville right now, and we're joined by Cokie book from the SEC network. He'll be part of the coverage of Missouri at Florida Cole. Thanks for the time. So here comes zuri after a devastating last second loss trying to. Pull themselves back together again. Florida being thrashed as well. Help us understand this game better tomorrow afternoon. Good afternoon. Paul. Thanks for having me. I think if you're Missouri. You have to find some offense you go eight consecutive three and outs in the second half of that game. It's just unacceptable with a first round draft pick it quarterback like drew lock solid offensive line more than capable SEC tailbacks. I don't understand how your offense can get that bogged down even against a good Kentucky defense, and then you mentioned the mental and the emotional aspect of founding back after a loss like that. And you have to do it in the swamp against a very aggressive for defense. Led by Todd Grantham who is at full strength up front on defense and can apply that pressure usually with just four or five rushers? So I think drew has his hands full tomorrow. This Florida rushing attack has steadily begun to improve. I'd say I think Florida is very close to being very explosive on offense. When you study them on film. There are some things that are right around the corner that are ready to explode for this Gators offense. And the defense is given a lot of explosive place could. See it happen tomorrow. Cokie joining us co let's there's so many games to talk about I want to get your input on as many as we have time for the one here where we are Georgia visiting Kentucky. What's what's the most important aspect of this game to the Kentucky defense has to win on first down? Because if they can force Jake from into third longs. I know he was great against Florida on third down. But Kentucky has one guy named Josh Allen on the edge that can affect the pocket and disrupt the pocket on third longs. If he can force that offense in those situations. I think Kentucky defense has a chance to make this game close. And then obviously Terry Wilson's going to have to bring some balance. Paul. It can't just be Benny snail. The Georgia front seven is not what they were year ago. But they're still pretty good. They have good players. They have talent. And I don't think that that Kentucky offense is going to be able to survive being one dimensional. So can Terry Wilson provide some explosive plays with his legs and do some things through the air. And it can't just be. Voted anymore. They've been forced feeding him the football somebody else's got to step up. Dorian Baker deep CJ Conrad working the middle of the field. There has to be that number three option in my opinion. And maybe it's Terry Wilson with his legs. And he has a huge game offsetting what Georgia defense is focusing on with Vinny snail. But that third option has to show up for Kentucky. It can't be Benny Snell force to football voted that won't be enough against Georgia defense co Q making a lot of friends here in Kentucky with that analysis. Ama fringe make Baton Rouge with an analysis of Alabama LSU tomorrow night. LSU defense can keep this game. Interesting at least four three three and a half quarters. The fact that Dave Aranda has two three guys that he knows he's confident in can cover in Maine demand situations will allow him to do some different things if he wants extra defenders on the back end to help take away some of the easier throws if he wants to bring some guys up and try to pressure he'll be able to do that. Now, it's going to hurt not having Devon white in the run game from physicality the leadership standpoint. But he's pretty good in coverage as well. He's a three down linebacker. So even if they go nickel dime. He's a guy. That's on the field. All the time. I think up front physically the LSU defense has to keep the game. Interesting as well. Finding pressure will be key in how many guys does Dave Aranda half to bring define that pressure. Now offensively I don't have as much confidence yourself how many points LSU need to win this game thirty five thirty eight forty two points. There's not a lot of people that realistically believe LSU can go out and score that many points they've gone out of their way to protect Joe. Borough and make his life easy with seven six man protections this year, if you do that against Alabama. I think they have the edge on the back end. So I don't know if LSU can score, no points. I do think their defense keeps it interesting. I think Alabama adds a score or too late to cover. I'll take the tie to wait in Baton Rouge. Khoa wanted to go to the planes tomorrow. The Gus malzahn seem derailed a couple of weeks ago in Tennessee came in. And then they were able to get a pretty big win at ole miss which help calm everyone down. You're in Alabama, you know, much about the Auburn program bigger former player, what's at stake tomorrow. I think a lot Paul. I actually think the by week calm things down more than beating ole miss a team that just has no defense to even put on paper and discuss much less. Brag about but I think this Auburn offense. You ask yourself three things. What are you most confident that they can do to get things going against a very good front seven that Texas brings to the table. Is it get the run game going is it protect the quarterback? Or is it that that coaching staff is going to devise a plan that's been different than most of what they've done the entire season. They give the quarterback in receivers through a quick passing game. A better chance to go out and win that game. I'm not sure I have confidence in any of those three things happening Callum on has big physical. Receivers he has athleticism. Auburn doesn't have the speed edge rusher that they've had in the past their great up the middle, and that defensive line is absolutely stunning against Iran and the front seventh-grade against Iran. But I think Callum on moves around throw some fifty fifty balls too. Big physical targets down the field. They find a way to generate big plays. And I just don't see the Auburn office getting things going what's on the line poll. I think alike considering you still have Alabama and Georgia on the schedule. A lot of people have sort of pressed pause on how they're going to judge Gus malzahn based on this season. And I think their judgment will come based on what happens in this game. And then the next two conference games against Georgia and Alabama. Appreciate as always co keyboard? Joining us on Friday today from Gainesville when we take a break. We're when we come back. We're going to be talking to a former Georgia head football coach hall of fame. Coach Jim Donovan he will join us to look ahead to tomorrow, the two big games right after this. Listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Walk me back. We are live in Kentucky on this Friday afternoon. Just a spectacular scene and vibe on this campus. And we appreciate you being with us. Jim Don, those a little bit about playing up here. The former head coach of the university of Georgia coach, thanks so much for being here. It's always a pleasure to see you. And I know you're on the UGA campus today to help us better understand this of of the of the of the dogs coming up here. Playing Kentucky for a shot at the SEC. Hey, I got a lead for second Kirby. Get some cold weather gear, man. Picture you in the airport today? Look like Bermuda. Short G ready to go on with that. But I tell you what I really gotta congratulate coach Mark stoops and the job he's done with that Kentucky wildcat program. You know, when I was coaching Marsha one of the things we tried to do go into southern Ohio and get players, and as one thing because stoops's done, you know, you look at twenty seven guys on steam, and the one thing you knew about those Ohio kids as they grew up in football backgrounds. A lot of small high school teams that meant so much being on a team and develop character leadership. And this team has stayed together. All year want some fourth quarter games. And we got our work cut out for tomorrow. Paul. Let's get into the nuances of this game. Because we we know we're Kentucky cannon can't do. But they still had a remarkable season. If you had to like, you do as a as a former coach break this date game down for us and tell us where where to keep our eyes. Where should it be? Well, starting out in Kentucky fancy no veteran group that really knows how to play together Allen's tremendous player off the edge. They got late then or secondary. And they really don't give up a lot of big place. So you're gonna have to earn everything on offense. And I think offense gained a lot of confidence last week. You know, we kind of got knocked off course, aired to LSU and give LSU credit. We'll talk about that later here. But I think our confidence got back against Florida. So it's going to be a case of khanate stop us and make sure that we don't stop ourselves. I mean, Georgia's got to take good care of the ball offensively. They're well coached team eighty grand has been around a lot of good winning programs. He was at Florida state when they want to and also at down there with coach Vail at all when they went feed, and so he knows how to coach and big games. And certainly having a big back like many snail is a very good security. I think the key there is how Wilson played a more for their offense. You know, he's got to be able to throw the ball. Thank Lee when guys are open, and he's got to be able to take good care of the ball, kicking game wise. They got a good punter. They've struggled a bit with their place kicking. But I think this go be a tough game for Georgia. And it's one that always tough place to play. I'm sure they got the grass up about seven feet I in that stadium. So maybe they got turf now, I don't know. But I remember back when I was coaching grass was always pretty odd. Well, this is the bluegrass coach I do want to switch gears and get your thought on the the other game not to diminish it pretty important. I'm talking about Florida, Missouri. We're talking about Missouri. It seems like wherever year we're sitting here talking on this first Saturday weekend, November talking about Alabama LSU most people a lot of people don't think LSU can hang with Alabama. What about you? What are the things? I wanna do is right off the bat give coach oh a lot of credit for what he's been able to do since taking over that team. He's really done a great job of pulling everybody together. They've had some big wins head of tough loss Florida, but just a well coach football team very physical team. And they know how to play with, you know, as a group defense, you know, had some guys on before me, and I won't labor the point. But there will coach defense, but I think festively ends maker. It's really put it together. Really good package and Berl doesn't get enough credit for for being really good solid quarterback. The big key for them though. To me is are they going to be able to score enough points. He's only thrown three touchdown passes against power five teams. So they don't really. Slowed and hit the big play on a lot of field. Those the other part that people have been talking about Alabama schedule, and it's nothing you can do about it when you have a schedule. But I know, and you know, having watched Alabama practice they get challenged every day against better players brackets than they usually say in game. So I don't think the fact that they haven't played anybody's going to bother them near as much as maybe playing in tiger stadium. That's certainly a venue, but they get challenged every week. This all week is help them from the standpoint of being able to go back, and look what was good for them in the problems. They've had and I look forward to run the ball affectively here. Because if I'm a defense has got to stop this passing game with two and you start doing that. Then that's when they break these explosive plays, but it's a great venue for SEC for the national press corps, everything but Alabama to me unless they just make a few mistakes. I think it's going to be hard. For them to lose this game. As a former quarterback coach. And you were certainly a good one in college. Give us your view a two and in what he has to be concerned about tomorrow because. Yeah, no, he sees that good defense in practice. And we know what he did in Atlanta. But it is tomorrow night going to be any different for him. Or do you think it it's just another 'nother Saturday on the schedule? Well, you know, he's had kind of six six or seven walks in the park and he hasn't played in the fourth quarter. But he is a guy that splayed big when they they needed him against us. Let's you're in a championship game. He just tremendously accurate quarterback. This got a gift for no one wind to anticipate the brakes, he just got a really good feel for throwing guys open. And he's got some human jets going down to feel and then Irv Smith on a crossing routes, and he's got the threat of play action and very good offensive line. But I think the big key for him. He just believes so much himself. Whether he's playing the you. Lele or whether he's talking to the press, whatever he's doing. He just feels like he can do it. And that that's a great trait for any quarterback. I take another quarterback that we won't talk about on FCC much that I think's very comparable to to is collar Murray for you. He's having a big year two and these two guys just show you what a dual threat quarterback in do. On teams score prolific amount of points talking to coach Jim Don in coach. Let's talk about strategy. Devon, white is not in the first half. That is certainly not a new story. But if but it's a could be a factor if you're over on the offensive side as you've been so many times in my colossally chair consulting with Nick save and try and trying to figure out. Does that matter or not take us in that room? And let us know what what what do you think they've been talking about all week? Well, there's another good key for Nick. And I think he deserves a lot of credit seven coaches last year different jobs, some the head jobs like Pruitt going to Tennessee, but he's rebuilt his staff to coordinators and they've been really fun shooting. Extremely well. I think when you haven't player down, you always look at trying to make sure you tack whoever taking his place, but you don't wanna get so consumed in that that you forget about using your stuff too. I think this that LSU can use this as a big plus for some way, they can find a way to kind of blend together and make up for that loss. And then know that he's going to be there in the second half. And they have a shot that can really help LSU. But I think from from the standpoint of code savings initial game plan, they'll probably do some certain things maybe attack that inside backer situation. And the thing about why it's so good. He's. A three down linebacker. He can play the regular downs. He can play nickel and dime. So you're gonna probably have to have two or three differ guys coming in for him in the first half. The coach of a strategy standpoint considering the success that Alabama's had do they do they really change anything? Or is it just to see what the setup is and tested, and how do you test that middle of the field? The things you always do is having an open date like both these teams look what you've been able to do. Well, and also what the other team going against us done. Well, and you know, maybe go with your strengths against our weaknesses certainly LSU has tremendous secondary. But they play a lot of man coverage. And they when they go to man coverage Alabama uses four and five wide receiver sets, greedy Wilson. Cain cover everybody. He can only cover one guy. So either who's going to cover these other guys out of the backfield. These really good receivers that Alabama presents when they go to these different look. So I look for Alabama to spread them out. See if LSU tries to play as much man as they usually do and also -ffected. Lee used their running game some passing downs because LSU been hurt with some explosive plays on some big runs. The biggest key to me though for LSU is stopping these big plays. Alabama said twenty two touchdowns over fifteen yards this year, and you know, no interceptions. LSU's intercepted fourteen balls and giving up very few big place. So it's forced versus four here. I can't wait for the game. But I'm certainly going to be watching the BULLDOGS at three thirty before that one. One last question. Bama coach in terms of Alabama's rushing attack. I mean, they've got three great running backs that we never talk about is that something that you just alluded to it for a second. But that's something we see more or does is it just a matter of just watching and waiting and taking your shots. You don't think in setting up their offense? And watching it evolve as the season progress, I think one of the big keys for was developing passing attack and using two streets with navy giving up a little bit of their running game against somebody's lesser opponents. But now they're going into the meat of the schedule against us defense against the Mississippi State defense who's really been pretty good this year. I mean, only two touchdowns in the last forty. Times other teams had the ball. And then you got all Bernie always plays. Pretty good defense. They're running games going to be important to them because you know, sometimes when you throw in a ball he can't count on all these great completions. And all this tremendous protection. So it's a good security blanket. I think that's going to be something that'll have to out tomorrow night. Coach. Thank you as always great to have you on glad to be weighed. He Paul and hope you make it through the night without freezing to death. Well, I think I will. Thank you. Appreciate it coach Jim Don joining us from Athens. We're having quite a show here in the next hour. We'll talk to the head football coach at U K Mark stoops as well as a Commissioner of the SEC, Greg Sankey. We're coming right back. We're live in Lexington.
"The Paul Finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one sabre card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent of grocery stores and one percent on all all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply the cried passion than pattern tree of of college football leaves here the Paul Finebaum show our one podcast and we say hello to you from the beautiful wonderful campus of the University of Kentucky. We're back here again. We were here last November and today. The temperature is only seventy eight degrees. He's warmer than it was last time around and he for the College football season is pretty high as well as we are delighted to welcome you to campus cat. The fans are excited about footfall because the big one is tomorrow night. The University of Florida coming to town Kentucky's had a rough season in terms of injuries but they're not concerned about that. They're itching to shut everyone up. Even spot ten wins spy day win over Penn state best best season in forty years catchers got no respect in the off season and they're still not getting any with Florida more than a touchdown favourite here tomorrow. Florida looking at this game was just another stepping-stone along the way to try to compete with Georgia in the SEC. It is not a revenge game last year the cats one for the first time in four hundred seventy seven years. Florida worried about that. They had a big time season double digit win. Dan Mullen has them in the top ten. That's what they are focused on. Even though they have some injuries and attrition of their own speaking of injuries will muschamp says Brad Johnson and and Randy Darius Davis are doubtful for Saturday. If things weren't bad enough in Colombia two more players unlikely to play against the number two team in the country the Alabama Emma Crimson tide not many faithful believe they can do it. Meanwhile what South Carolina up to to South Carolina lawmakers will file a proposal to pay college athletes following California's lead. Now we'll tell you I'm not a student of the South Carolina state legislature but I'm willing to bet you. It has a much more difficult time in passing in conservative South Carolina then left leaning California Tim. Tebow had a lot to say about the California subject today on ESPN. I feel like I have a little credibility and knowledge about this. When I was at the University of Florida I think my Jersey was one one of the top selling jerseys around the world. I always like Kobe Lebron and then I was right behind them and I didn't make a dollar from it but nor did I want to because I knew going into college. What what it was all about. I knew going to Florida my dream school where I wanted to go the passion for and if I could support my team support my college support my university. That's what it's all about but now we're changing it from us from we from my university from being an alumni where I care what makes college football and college sports special to then okay. It's not about us. It's not about we. It's just about me and yes I know we live in a selfish culture where it's all about us but we're just adding tiling onto that we're changes what's special about college football here and we turned it into the NFL where who has the most money. That's where you go. That's why people are more passionate about college sports than they are about. NFL that's why the the the stadiums are bigger in college than the are in the NFL because it's about your team. It's about your university. It's about where my family wanted to go. It's about where my grandfather had a dream of seeing award-winning. Sec Championship and you're taking that away so that young kids can earn a dollar and that's just not where I feel like college football needs to go opportunity in the NFL Ashton College Football Tim Tebow earlier today some comments that certainly have gone viral and I rather spirited debate has ensued among Tivo followers and those who vehemently disagree big big make show on tap here today we start with Andre Woodson former Kentucky Great. He'll be here in a minute and Kevin Richardson from from the backstreet boys. He grew up around the corner. He's a UK fan. You'RE GONNA WANNA meet a member one of the lead vocalist of one of the most iconic Connor Group of the nineties and quite frankly they're still on tour. They're playing concert in Louisville tonight. Allison Williams will join us from ESPN. She's covering Mississippi State Elissa. Lang in Knoxville. Tim Couch remember him played by twenty years ago the number one pick in the NFL draft mark mark stoops to cut the head coach here Jordan Rogers the NFL the SEC network Alice will he will join a Steve Levy. WHO's doing the game here tomorrow night and Matt Berry we have a pretty extensive and a long list and Marcus Spears. Marty Smith will drop by as well well. It'll take we want to show you the difference. That was me here here. Last year. It was a it was about eighteen or nineteen degrees there. We had sleet and snow. It was one of the coldest days I've ever encountered honored today. It's I think it just hit ninety six but when I sent Danny mark that shot it was only ninety five. I I've never been in Lexington Sing Tin when it wasn't cold cover a lot of basketball here and football mostly in late in the year but this is the warmest day. This feels like feels Alabama. Nick Sabin would not like temperature to play an early game. He would be complaining what he would probably postpone the show. It's unfair because Lsu we'll get to do it at night. Tony Starts US off in San Diego. How are you Tony Good afternoon. Good afternoon Paul how you doing today Sir. We're doing real well. Thank thank you thank you for taking my call. Hey I I'm glad you played. t-boz little rant on get up. I don't have kind of a hectic schedule this week with physical therapy and everything but that's what I was calling about because my wife and I in San Diego man first of all my first eleven and years old I eleven years as a kid growth in Athens Georgia then my next ten years down in Dothan Alabama and it took me literally ten years before I flip lipped tied but anyhow here in California man we are just prisoners in this democratic state and you get out here enough. You know exactly what I'm talking about and I'm not trying to get two weeks ago. I know what you're talking about yeah and main Paul. It is so bad. We don't even watch the local news anymore. I don't care about the politics of California. I do care about this issue though yeah so yeah so I I'm on Kibo side. I mean I feel the same way because you know I ah I know. Everybody's got a different angle on it but like you said man. That's the passion there you get an education there. You know I if it keeps going any of the goods any further they didn't I mean what's going to be like for the junior high school kids and they'll. I mean three kids. I mean we're we're going to stop. You know what I'm saying. Well make sure people understand that. This is this is is not a direct pay for play Bill This is a likeness bill. We're we're players. Can can profit like Tim set off the Jersey off of a other things and the the NCWA clearly is against it they have said it's unconstitutional. I'm not sure I trust the NC Double A.'s legal acumen but it is becoming a huge debate and now the Tim who is one of the most prominent faces in the history of college football has has chimed in it will become even more politicized. Well thank you very much. John is up next in Orlando. John Nice executed join us Paul how you doing buddy. We are doing great thank you I'm looking on. TV and I see the number of cats. She got there hell. I got more stray. Cats my backyard coming to get a meal in the afternoon. There are there. I want what I want to talk about the John. You're you're welcome to come out here and stand in one hundred ten degrees heat index. If you WANNA complain Gainesville what I want but I tell you hey hey hold on a second. these kids behind me are sitting out there in a rather insufferable situation you. I'm sure the the A C is running. At what about sixty five in your house right now no I I can't I can't afford it buddy. It's it's about seventy seven. Okay what I want to talk about. It's all fools out. There think they're all excited. You Know Paul all you can look it up. They can google search if they know how to work that phone. I'M GONNA try to be like I'm in here a little bit and these guys from Alabama that always talking smack there were nine. University of Florida players suspended last year for that game in Gainesville nine good including guy by the name of Richard Ever hear him. Hey Hey let me ask you a question Mr Bits and how how many players were suspended with Missouri made made you guys cry last year in Gainesville. We're not we're not talking about that. Kentucky Pay Y. You know you go down the feminine undeniable and they have a product called pay why that's what they need to grab a Tuba okay. That's what they're going to need for tomorrow night. Okay that's fair great to always always great to hear from an objective gator fan. We'll take a break. People think if we're coming by the way I don't get to some guy at Disneyworld. The world is is it has to say right now. Eight five five two four to seven to eight five is the number we are here in Kentucky where it it is hot. Just like it is in Florida. They were happy to be here and more of your phone calls. After this listening to the Paul Finebaum Show podcast gassed we welcome you back we are live at Kentucky and Andre Woodson about to enter the hall of fame understandably so he was was a great player here at UK and he is on the set with this Andre It's been what fifteen years since you started your career you still you still pretty young and of course everyone looks young to me absolutely great to have you on. Thank you pleasure. Let's go back to that time you you played for what I think. is one of the great coaches at never gets a an ounce of credit rich brooks he was at Oregon he was in the NFL. He came here and we ran a really nice program and people don't ever mentioned him. Why it's a great question. I don't know I thought rich. Brooks did a phenomenal job sort of resurrecting this program really getting us to heights you you know historically we never seen and did a tremendous job really recruiting and you know seat in this concept that we essentially revamped the program and you know he he had some historical run so yeah he did a I. I've gotten to know him a little bit and you know a lot better but he's just he's a he's. He just serious old school football coach that that has been taken for granted but they start that campaign to get them a little more respect under you're going into the hall of fame. I I know sometimes when when you've accomplished a lot you you go okay. this is another event but that's still quite an honor. Yeah it is. I'm I'm humbled. Certainly flattered really honored to give opportunity to be inducted two thousand eighteen eighteen Kentucky Hall of fame so it's an exciting time my family's here with me. I have a lot of friends that are traveling for this event today and tomorrow and so excited just to showcase my son and you you know my family and my wife and you know this is where I play. This is university attended and circle things here. I've talked to people who've gone into hall of fame and and sometimes to them personally they. They're okay with it but it seems like it means more. Maybe to your family I mean I'm looking at your son over there. I have I have a feeling he's going to be a starter for the cats one of these days he what is his knowledge of your prowess. It's limited. I think come you know just to see the sheer scale like on the platform that we played at the magnitude like the overall fan base. I think they give that perspective. You know we'll be enlightening and I think it's going to be really excited for him tomorrow because he's going to be here with me for the honorary coin toss and on the field as well when we do the recognition so it's really cool. I think he'll appreciate it a little bit more towards the tail end appreciate it. Your Dad was a great player okay. Let's talk about that time because you're you're right. I mean Kentucky had had been through a lot probably more famous for games that they had blown and then they had one. We've seen too many highlights of that so take us through a getting to Kentucky brought you here and the Odyssey that turned up to successfully yeah. I was actually elite eleven quarterback it was. I guess it was relatively new so I was introduced to allow different programs. Kentucky was one of the first institutions that was recruiting me at the time and offering scholarship. I think my ninth grade my here yeah and so they were really on me hard. I know that there was a lot of different programs. That had a lot of interests. I was highly highly touted but you know something about Kentucky stood out. They were very persistent. Stay on me for the majority of my my high school run and I love the fan base. I love the culture I love the coaches and ultimately we brought a stellar group in a lot of exciting very talented audited athletes on the perimeter Keenan Burton Tammy Jo Jacobs. We arrive your little and several other players and they did phenomenal job shop for and we were able to revitalize this program and really get it to heights again like we never seen before recall isn't that that's something that I'm always struck by. I I grew upcoming here. I went to school at Tennessee and this was always the mid to late November game that was usually so critical and it was always found it so interesting to get here because Chris. Everyone obsesses over basketball. That's okay I mean this is the epicenter of college basketball in this country but the football passion is incredible. Yeah it's still deeply rooted here. I mean I think there's this notion that this basketball program or institution and obviously the state only bleeds basketball. That's not the fact I mean. The Fan base is extremely strong here. They travel extremely well and obviously they're very zealous to see the the program do well and so I think those couple of seasons that we had and obviously coach Brooks's tenure spoke volumes so in terms of the overall support that we had the culture we had ad and obviously really getting us in the right direction to potentially content in this dominant conference people forget any headquartered run that bear Brian Coach here and and he did well here too at the same time as eight all up which has we've elicited a million funny stories out of all that but there are some really good coaches forty years ago. I was talking to someone earlier or yesterday I think and you know Fran Kersee had this program winning ten games and coach Brooks did it and now which brings me today we're coming up at ten win season at the University of Kentucky a win over Penn State Downing Orlando and as a as a as a law the now about to be a hall of fame member. What would that mean to you. I think it's remarkable to see coach. Stoops's dine in terms of just the overall program transformation. I mean he's done a marvelous job really recruiting players traditionally we weren't able to really tap into those states and now he's going in there air with again a very vigorous young staff that's hungry and they're able to pull out a talented historically we weren't able to really capture and now these guys are they're recruiting and the development their pipeline into potential prospects in the NFL and that's just GonNa continue to keep that culture going sustaining a lot of these relations that we have in those states and getting any of those guys here and ultimately that's GonNa Create wins so you know the fact that we're able to cultivate a different type of environment now and obviously fan base is able to support it. They're back in. They see hey petition or excuse me. The overall sort of development of this now is inevitable and I think we're gonNA continue really great things in the future for about ten years ago. It seemed like the the game that the cats couldn't get over with Tennessee. They finally be Tennessee for the first time and maybe twenty five or thirty years uh-huh to years ago it looked like that moment had arrived here and the game slips away and everyone is just distraught but last year in the wildcats exorcise those demons in Gainsville how how important was that to you as a as somebody who has been part of that straight what's really important. I mean it's it's been a barrier so huge hurdle that we've tried to overcome for decades and you know rightfully those prestigious universities they've historically had great talent talent and right now. I think it really gives us an opportunity to compete you know considering like the Plainfield is pretty level and so I think you know hopefully we'll continue to showcase that we have the skill set we have athletes we have the the coaching and really put put ourselves in a position to be successful but you know as we continue need to compete and and show that you know we can play on the same field as those guys hopefully the future will start coming away with more of those winds. Let me let me wrap up with the quarterback position because we all we all expected so much from Terry Wilson in really unfortunately he gets hurt and we have a transfer in here who played at a different different level and he's playing against an elite defense tomorrow night as as someone who wants in that position as you're an elite player Sawyer good but certainly not the same level you were. What does he face tomorrow. It's not an ideal situation thirty or freshman quarterback certainly but I think you know I think a lot of dictates on how the coaches sat strategizes and tries to put them in the best position to be successful. Whether that's intermediate routes you know how vertical package screens I think a lot of it's dependent on how well he's GonNa perform ultimately. I think there needs to be a realization that hey this guy's first starting game. You know he's going to have to go in there air and really take a lot of high percentage passes and as long as he's really careful and cautious and protects the football. I think he puts us in a good place to hopefully rely heavily. Liane our defense and come away with a win at the end. Well thank you for coming on. I know tomorrow night is going to be something special. I guess you've had a lot of big moments in your life your career but it's one of those. I'm sure you just want to just freeze frame and can remember. I know you will remember well. Thank you Andre about what a pleasure congratulations relationship that we are live here in Kentucky. What an afternoon this is shaping up to be a number of guests to come including mark stoops the head coach at the University of Kentucky lucky many more as well and quitting a member of the fame group the backstreet boys coming up soon. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We welcome back to Lexington Xingtong here on the campus of the University of Kentucky and there are so many moments in your life when you say I wish they could see me now. What I mean by that is people. I went to school with people I grew up with because I'm with one of the coolest was guys in the entertainment is right out. Kevin Richardson Backstreet boys back home so great to see you welcome to Kentucky. Thank you you you. You were telling me you you were born around the corner right down the street and Central Baptist Hospital and it all began here. We have so much talk about it. I I think it's pretty obvious you're you're talking about the talk about growing up Kevin. Everyone grows up with I did a be someone some of I do a little better than others in terms of becoming an international star but when you when you were growing up what were you thinking about when I was growing up here in Kentucky the my whole family music was always a part of our our lives. Monaco Popol was in a barbershop quartet. My Grandmother was was in a Gospel Quartet with her sisters. So music was always a part of my life. I love doing it. I didn't know some day I would eventually be able to make a living doing it but but as I got older and the positive feedback kept coming my way from music that I was doing then I just stuck with it and here we are twenty six years years later as as the backstreet boys and we're having a little renaissance. Pat Things are going pretty well. Documentary wasn't enough no apparently not in the SEC basketball term in Eddie Montgomery. was there and you know that's what you expect the guy here his brother country music stars. BLUEGRASS so many great stars of Country and I were inducted into the Kentucky Music Hall of fame together you know he's a great guy and you know the UK fan but I mean I'm interested in. Maybe it was the time that you were growing up that you moved into something that boy bands that we still talk about and still watch now twenty years later. I mean growing up here in Kentucky. We listened to Everything Gospel Country Rock rb and so I- growing growing up like people WANNA call us a boy and whatever but I mean we listened to the brothers and the Oak Ridge boys those country vocal groups and you got the temptation Tation Loretta Lynn Country Shy lights up but we listened to a little bit everything grown up here in Kentucky and and that's Kinda everybody that's in my group. We all are from the southeast. We Got Florida represented Georgia and Kentucky in this group that I'm in so we're influenced by a lot of things and fortunately we were able to we've been able to have an incredible career making music. That's kind of a hybrid of all of our clients is which is why our last album was called DNA because it's the DNA the NASD of each of us all our genres of music that we have passionate we love that's in this album on the Kentucky so i WanNa talk about the solution of of the battery boys because we didn't hit I mean there are there are a lot of magical musical stories but this was one of the greater ones that generation ration- what what was it like to to suddenly be famous all across the world well. It's something that you dream for you dream of and you hope for but then when it happens. It's a little scary you know. It's like for a long time. You want people to know who you are and then finally everybody knows your you experienced that I mean you can't walk around these missile pile so I I just WanNa. Hold on let me I want a luxury in this moment that you have compared the success of the backstreet boys to hosting a college but but I will recognize poke recognize the moment has passed and now let's get back to reality but but it was a dream come true for us but then when it hit and suddenly everybody knows who you are and then it's like you can't leave your house without people recognizing ignition you either wanting a picture and autograph which is a blessing but at times it can be a little heavy on you and it's good the friends around me that grounded me two older brothers and friends here that I stay in contact with in Kentucky that grounded me. But what were you going to sell Jerry so well. I mean I've seen the pictures I mean what's the scariest moment you guys had you you walkout and there are zillion people in probably Rio Rio de Janeiro around believe it was two thousand when we launched our black and blue album we flew there to do. We're flying around the world in one hundred hours hitting all these different cities to do a massive promotional tour and there were forty thousand people in the street surrounding our bus. It was like one of these campus buses that go around here on and they were rock in the bus. People were falling down in the street getting trampled on and that was a frightening moment. It was pretty amazing and awesome that it was happening but I was scared for some of those people well and also the bus the bus might turn but we had a few of those moments forty thousand people street yeah. It was crazy that is just this is is Michael Jackson or prince or the Beatles out here somewhere. I didn't know what was going to close to say the same row at the time. Let me ask you so it's the cliche question because when you grow up and Kentucky's pretty obvious you've you've followed the catch your sir. What's your first memory of being a cat fan. My First Memories of Kentucky Papa had season tickets in the east southeast endzone when it was just bleachers back then before they closed the bowl in the nineteen in seventy s he took me to my first game. That was a friend Kersee era through. I remember names like Felix Wilson and Derek Ramsay and Fran Incursion Meyer Earliest Memories Kentucky going ten in one and then I think the season after that we got on suspension and weren't allowed to go to a bowl game but those of my earliest memories my pal taking me two games here at Commonwealth Stadium and it's pretty cool because my father put up the Steel in Commonwealth stadium father was an iron worker he he helped build Kirwin in blanding right back there iron up there so I got deep roots here and finally right now. We're having a resurgence. We love mark stoops around here. He's doing a great job. Rome wasn't built in a day. We got a good foundation. I and these boys will fight and we got high character talented young men that will fight tooth and nail until the last whistle blows and we're proud of what's happening now you live in. La But you still keep up with everything here Paul I get up and I'll have my morning coffee and hit a a little little throw out later and then I turn on your show as I'm answering the day when I am not on the road and I'm a big fan of your show. It's a pleasure to be here with you and hope you enjoy your time here and go cats. No I can't thank you enough. What a thrill and more than anything I. I'm getting my picture made. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA RUB IT in every person's face that never thought I could meet someone like you. It is a great pleasure thinking so we will take a break. We are live in Kentucky and I don't know if we can top that but we are going to try but I'm not sure we can live from the campus of the University Kentucky. We will be right back listening to Paul Finebaum. Show podcast gassed welcome back so glad you're here and how co was Talk To. Kevin appreciate him dropping by we're live in Lexington and we'll get to your phone calls in a minute. If you want to call us at eight five five two four to seven to eight five big game tomorrow in Starkville K. State last year state they went out to Kansas and I had a nice victory. What about this time. Things are a little bit more delicate. wildcats look a lot better allison. Didn't we joining us Thank you so much alison great to have you here and I know This is a big game for Joe Moorhead. Didn't everyone else gives us. your take gone what you've been able to Garner so far and the outlook for tomorrow. Hey there Paul pleasure to be with you yeah. I think this is a good measuring stick game for really both teams are both to oh coming into this which is their first game against another power five teams so I think both teams will learn a lot about themselves for Joe Joe Moorehead's team. I think defensively they're still some question question marks for them. They were the number one defense in the country last year. They have to replace several stars from that defense. Who will those guys that can step up and this is a big challenge for them going against Kansas State team. That's very effective. Running the ball of a trio running backs they like to use and especially upfront for Mississippi state going against Kansas State's offensive line. That's all seniors. They start start five seniors on their own line. They don't make a lot of mistakes or some depth issues there for Mississippi state so a big test for both teams but I think one area really learn a lot about Mississippi. State is up there on that defensive line or noon game any complaints about that from the Mississippi State officials this week. No complaints about the eleven local kick. The variety is good conversation in SEC right has been a big one. I'm interested in Kansas state because we all know the departure. Bill Snyder wider. He's one of the hall of fame coaches and one of the great coaches of all time but toward the end. It felt like the program was going in a couple of different directions. Give us the skinny on on this program is right now because it seems like from a distance you're there. I'm there has been a resurgence yeah. I think that's a good way to put it a lot of the players I talk. They just felt reinvigorated Schuyler Thompson. Their quarterback told me he was on a pretty dark place. At the end of last season he had to share duties at quarterback and really was thinking about transferring from Kansas State. When Chris Climate was hired. He decided to go all in with the wildcats. He's really just ignited not just the fan base but inside that locker room a new sense of excitement eight-minute sense of passionate sense of accountability players much more involved. It seems like in the day to day. Operations of the team and climate is a proven winner. He has won twenty three three straight games going back to his time. North Dakota state he won four national championships and five years. There is a head coach so they know he is a winner. They know he is a proven winner and I think you're absolutely right. There is a new sense of energy around the Kansas State program and what better way to start the year than going to an owned building some confidence and really some big time by for what they're trying to. They do their alison. There wasn't much more he could do out there. I mean he he had pretty much owned division so This is a fascinating move. Let's let's talk about the quarterback situation. Shen with Tommy Stephen Singer's. We're we're hearing a million things and I'm in Kentucky. What are you hearing. in Starkville word here in Starkville is that he is a game time decision region. He did practice this week but he was limited following what they're just calling an upper body injury from last week so they will remain to hold on that line that he is a game time decision. We'll have to keep an eye on him. During warm ups I would say they're optimistic that he can play but they're not ready to say for sure that he'll be able to go there still kind of monitoring his status. It's a lot of controversy in the in the preseason about that position I if if he is able to go what is the plan so Garrett trader would get an at quarterback we saw the freshman play last week and he was very very good in his relief so it will be interesting to see even if even if Stevens Ken Clay. Will we see the freshman a little bit because coaches here are very high. They said he has complete control of the playback. There's nothing they're going to be dialing back if he is in there at quarterback now. Thomson is an option as well. He will be dressed for for this game. Kitano Thomson of course entered the transfer portal after he wasn't able to win the job at quarterback but he has backed with a team. He is an option but straightaway either first choice if Stevens can't quarterback gray tabby on thank you very very much we'll be watching Tamar. Thanks you bet great stuff from Starkville. Let's say we we're going to try to work some calls in. We are finally slowing down a little bit. We've had a just a nonstop guest list but we are not going to forget you at home at eight five five five to four to seven to eight five. Let's check in with Dale who is in South Carolina. Hello Dale. Hey Paul how you doing but I I'm doing well. Thank you very much. I enjoy your show immensely. a avid clemson tigers fan but brought I want your opinion the you think that and I know this is a southern conference. I I won't say I think Jimbo Fisher is one of the nicest his coaches and has more class than any more coach. I've ever saw interview after game. Secondly I would like to ask view. Do you think there's a snowball's chance in Haiti's that Carolina will beat Alabama the more or they Clinton will go up and beat Syracuse accuse. That's my question following. This may sound crazy. I think there's a better chance of Syracuse beating Clemson. Listen then South Carolina beating Alabama because I just don't see it I don't see the South Carolina team in a position at home. I I don't really see the other game either. The only thing I will say Dino abors has been able to do some things with with with venables defense and nobody else has an and part of it. Is You just speed I read. I read an interesting article today about that about. He's he's just. He surprises people and he is. He's really had his way the last two years even though we lost last year's game thank thank you very very much. Appreciate the call from South Carolina. Larry is up next. Larry go right ahead Tambov. We're doing great Larry Man. I feel bad for you. Jack and I'm an air conditioning POPPIN BUD LA up. Hey check it out. Your Rob Powell South Carolina polecat daddy hugest. I looked at his. Here's kids you. Don't get no better I mean I don't. I see five offices but I did one buying something about the what Tibo says absolute go on and how the they voted seventy two to nothing to pass that bill now known the governor's Chiba over so I can you know. Tiba doesn't have to accept the money I mean. Don't you think that that college athletes should be able to do the same thing that anyone else can do. Why why. Why are they penalized my question back to you yeah? I'm agreeing with that part of it. I think there it should be some control over if they do it right and I agree with you. I I think there has to be an accommodation but but but you know nobody you mean if tim didn't want money and it was a it was there then he can. He can turn it down. It wasn't like he was destitute. At the time yeah man you got plays out there like backman whatever junior players as well but so many players have nothing Larry. The young men in all circumstances aren't the same anyway. We'll talk about that later. More phone calls coming up here next.
#FinebaumFriday in Lexington
"The pride passion than pageantry of college. Football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Best of podcast. Look where we are on November day, the university of Kentucky who would believe that on this the first weekend of the month of November the biggest home game in Kentucky history. One of the biggest games in the schools history. And we say Hello to you from. Pretty fired up crowd. The basketball season against Duke will essence begin Tuesday night with a football season is well underway and the cats the cats have a chance to do something tomorrow that they have never done in the modern era punch ticket to the SEC championship game. Oh, yes. There's another big game in Baton Rouge. We'll talk about that. But the show begins now from Lexington. Pretty high level of enthusiasm on a beautiful forty three degree day. I've been all over the country this week to to the east coast other parts, this is the coldest place, then, but it's the hottest place when it comes to atmosphere and enthusiasm. If you haven't heard by now Kentucky hosting Georgia tomorrow. We know one election. Remember crowd and great atmosphere for these guys. Probably these games stadium. I'm excited for for our players. They've worked sir streaming hard to be put in this position. You don't get games like this, unless you don't, you know, let's take care of the business that you have to throughout the season at Scone be what I what I've been dreaming about is going to be that that big moment that big game. That's going to be a fight to the their their fiscal football team. They get they get after you never really well really experience to you know, they got some seasons. Guys who played a lot of football championships to win the SEC east as big as we want program be certainly going here. I feel like everybody overlooks they always were the underdog. And we look at that as motivation. We've made it this far, you know, but we still got more. We still got more games to win still got more people to prove wrong. Well, they do. And it's pretty amazing when you. Think about the last time we were here two years ago on a couple of weeks ago for the Mississippi State game a lot hung in the balance and quitting the future of Mark soups. That's no longer a debate. Here. He is well in concert with this program and a chance to do something. Very rare tomorrow. Meanwhile, there is another huge game the SEC west is at stake as well in Baton Rouge. You can often read things into what Nick Sabin says. And what he doesn't say. Have you heard about what he said last night? Well, honest with you. I hope we elect to kick ass is what I hope we do. But. Mandate. Listen, I consider myself a pretty high ranking Sabin, Allah gist. I don't ever remember Nick Saban showing that type of confidence before and LSU game of all games. But read into that what you may Alabama on its way to Baton Rouge the whole country watching both this game and that game. Yes. You see has had many big games. But rarely has it had a double header like it has beginning three thirty here. Tomorrow. I know Tuesday night was Halloween, but I'm dressed up as as a snowman today welcoming in winter to the Commonwealth. Let's get going with the calls at eight five five to four to seven to eight five and Andre in the AT L starts us off code one in the world. No, one cares about the university of Kentucky and the university of Georgia this weekend. You know, what by to talk about coq found? Chrome? Background KOMO coat. Everybody's causing trade trading. A whole nation is looking at Baton Rouge, Louisiana Nickerson. That's what the whole nation looking at. We wanna see big boy ball. I hope it's a good game code. What do you think? I disagree. I think in many ways this game is more intriguing than that game. We've seen that movie before. Komo. I can't tell you. How many times I've gone to tiger stadium expecting something different to happen? And the same thing always seems to happen. Alabama wins. I know, you know, George gotta be Kentucky. Are you rented new? George run school bullet up on that L as you can give them a good game. Coach I really do. Listen. I heard Colin cowherd half bad this week on the radio even dough heated like it after the committee voted on the con- playoff. Who? Did you say? ESPN? Okay. See if the best confident at much he doesn't like it. He stated that the number one ranked undefeated team the number one, right? One loss team to Laos team and three laws all those in the car. And the college football playoff. Hold off a one comp he says, not good for college football. But the SEC, hey, Andrei, let let me say this, and I say this with Collins of personal friend of mine. Here's what he thinks about the the poll come on. Yeah. You're right about that coach. He's a pundit. Hope I hope that LSU can make a gate game. But alabama. Deference Andrei urine LSU fan right say allow you just got through saying I hope my team good. The fans behind me think they're going to win this game. One more thing before I'd go those fans have been smoking Kentucky blue grass coach found ball. Okay. Smoking that bluegrass from Kentucky. Thanks. Thanks. Andrea. You got you got. Dennis is up next. And it's good afternoon. All will. Home of vast torches while women and the best in the world. Hello. In. I have to agree with Andre. They're gonna be a lot of people interested in this game. The borrow. I just hope it's not a blow out either way out which compared to game. And Joe, I love you. And we're going to win the mar- go pick blue. I'm gonna win. But their fans are winning today. So far, Chris is up next. Go right ahead. Dress. Hey. We are having a blast down here up here wherever we are. Confetti fan to reality. Check Kentucky this year. Granted they'd be Florida. But they remind me of that Notre Dame team that what was the twenty thirteen or they're barely beating. They got that great defensive player like man tied pay then it's Josh Allen. But then when they actually play a really really good team. Guess what happened? They got being rolled over. And I guarantee you Kirby smart get a go into this game thinking that Kentucky's the best team on the planet. And we're going to be ready. I dare I bet you gotta be like thirty six to fourteen go. Thanks. You were listening to Paul finebaum show podcast and we're about to head down to Gainesville right now. And we're joined by co Q book thea from the SEC network. He'll be part of the coverage of Missouri at Florida Cole. Thanks for the time. So here comes Missouri. After a devastating last second loss trying to pull themselves back together again, Florida being thrashed as well. Help us understand this game better tomorrow afternoon. Good afternoon. Paul. Thanks for having me. I think if you're Missouri. You have to find some offense you go eight consecutive three announce in the second half of that game. It's just unacceptable with a first round draft. Pick a quarterback like drew lock solid offense of line in more than capable SEC. Tailbacks? I don't understand how your offense can get that. Bog down even against a good Kentucky defense, and then you mentioned the mental and the emotional aspect of balancing back after a loss like that. And you have to do it in the swamp against a very aggressive defense led by Todd Grantham who is at full strength of front on defense and can apply that pressure usually with just four or five rushers? So I think drew has his hands full tomorrow. This Florida rushing attack has steadily begun to improve. I tell you. I think Florida is very close to being very explosive on offense. When you study them on film. There are some things that are right around the corner that are ready to explode for this Gators offense. And the defense is given up a lot of explosive plays could. See it happen tomorrow Kokubo joining us co let's there's so many games to talk about want to get your input on as many as we have time for the one here where we are Georgia visiting Kentucky. What's what's the most important aspect of this game two year? I think the Kentucky defense has to win on first down because if they can force Jake from into third longs. I know he was great against Florida on third down. But Kentucky has one guy named Josh Allen on the edge that can affect the pocket and disrupt the pocket on third longs. If he can force that offense in those situations Kentucky defense has a chance to make this game close. And then obviously Terry Wilson's going to have to bring some balance. Paul. It can't just be snail. The Georgia front seven is not what they were year ago. But they're still pretty good. They have good players. They have talent. And I don't think that that Kentucky offense is going to be able to survive being one dimensional. So contrary Wilson provides some explosive plays with his legs. And can he do some things through the air? And it can't just be. Voted anymore. They've been forced feeding him the football somebody else's got to step up. Dorian Baker deep CJ Conrad working the middle of the field. There has to be that number three option in my opinion. And maybe it's Terry Wilson with his legs. And he has a huge game offsetting what George defense is focusing on with Benny Snell. But that third option has to show up for Kentucky. It can't be Benny Snell force-feed to football in boating that won't be enough against the Georgia defense Cokie of making a lot of friends here in Kentucky with that analysis Osama fringe making Baton Rouge with an analysis of Alabama LSU tomorrow night. Paul. I think LSU can keep this game. Interesting at least four three three and a half quarters. The fact that Dave Randa has two three guys that he knows he's confident in can cover in MandA manned situations will allow him to do some different things. If he wants extra defenders on the back end to help take away some easier throws if he wants to bring some guys up and try to pressure he'll be able to do that. Now, it's going to hurt not having Devon white in the run game from physicality the leadership standpoint, but he's pretty good in coverage as well. He's a three down linebacker. So even if they go nickel dime. He's a guy. That's on the field. All the time up front physically. The LSU defense has a chance to keep the game. Interesting as well. Finding pressure will be key. And how many guys does Dave Aranda half to bring define that pressure. Now offensively I don't have as much confidence yourself. How many points is LS you need to win this game thirty five thirty eight forty two points. There's not a lot of people that realistically believe LSU can go out and score that many points they've gone out of their way to protect job. Borough and make his life easy with seven six man protections this year, if you do that against Alabama. I think they have the edge on the back end. So I don't know if LSU can score enough points. I do think their defense keeps it interesting. Alabama adds a score or too late to cover. I'll take the time to win and Baton Rouge. Koa? I wanted to go to the planes tomorrow. The the Gus malzahn seem derailed a couple of weeks ago in Tennessee came in. And then they were able to get a pretty big win at ole miss which help calm everyone down. You're in Alabama. You know, much about the Auburn program bigger, former employer what's at stake tomorrow. I think a lot Paul. I actually think the bye week calm things down more than beating. Ole miss a team that just has no defense to even put on paper and discuss let's brag about but I think this Auburn offense. You ask yourself three things. What are you most confident that they can do to get things going against a very good front seven that Texas stadium brings to the table. Is it get the run game going is it protect the quarterback? Or is it that that coaching staff is going to devise a plan that's been different than most of what they've done the entire season. They give the quarterback receivers through a quick passing game. A better chance to go out and win that game. I'm not sure I have confidence in any of those three things happening Callum on has big physical. Receivers he has athleticism. Auburn doesn't have the speed edge rusher that they've had in the past their great up the middle, and that defensive line is absolutely stunning against Iran and the front seventh-grade against Iran. But I think Callum on moves around throw some fifty fifty balls too. Big physical targets down the field. They find a way to generate big plays. And I just don't see the over Nafis getting things going what's on the line, Paul. I think a lot considering you still have Alabama and Georgia on the schedule a lot of people have sort of pressed pause on how they're going to judge Gus malzahn based on this season. And I think their judgment will come based on what happens in this game. And then the next two conference games against Georgia. Alabama. Appreciate as always co keyboard? Joining us on Friday today from Gainesville. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Don to those a little bit about playing up here. The former head coach of the university of Georgia coach, thanks so much for being here. It's always a pleasure to see you. And I know you're on the UGA campus today to help us better understand the significance of of the of the of the dogs coming up here. Playing Kentucky for shot at the SEC. Hey, I got a lead for second Kirby. Get some cold weather gear, man. I saw picture you in the airport today. Look like from you too short. You ready to go aren't with that? I'll tell you what I really got to congratulate coach Mark stoops and the job he's done with that Kentucky wildcat program. You know, when I was coaching Marsha one of the things we tried to do was go into southern Ohio and get players. And as one thing coach stoops has done, you know, you look at twenty seven guys on steam, and the one thing about those Ohio kids, they grew up in football backgrounds. A lot of small high school teams that meant so much being on a team develop character leadership and this team has stayed together. All year, fourth quarter games. We gotta work cut out for tomorrow. Paul. Let's get into the nuances of this game. Because we know we're Kentucky cannon can't do. But they still had a remarkable season. If you had to like, you do as a as a former coach break this date game down for us and tell us where where to keep our eyes. Where should it be? Well, starting out with Kentucky defense. You know veteran group that really knows how to play together Allen's tremendous player off the edge. They got lengthened or secondary. And they really don't give up a lot of big place. So you're gonna have to earn everything on offense. And I think our offense gained a lot of confidence last week. You know, we kind of got knocked off course, aired LSU and give LSU lot of credit. We'll talk about that later here. But I think our confidence got back against Florida. So it's going to be a case of connects stop us and make sure that we don't stop ourselves. Georgia's got take good care of the ball offensively. You know there. A well coached team any grant has been around a lot of good winning programs. He was at Florida state when they want to and also at down there with coach Bill at Auburn when they went onto feed. And so he knows how to coach and big games. And certainly having a big back like many snail is a very good security. I think the key. There's Wilson played a more for their offense. You know, he's got to be able to throw the ball fake when guys are open, and he's got to be able to take good care of the ball, kicking game wise. They got a good punter. They've struggled little bit with their place kicking. But I think this go be a tough game for and one that always a tough place to play. I'm sure they got the graphs up about seven feet high and that stadium. So maybe they got turf now, I don't know. But I remember back when I was coaching grass was always pretty odd. Well, this is the bluegrass coach I want to switch gears and get your thought on the the other game not to diminish it pretty important. I'm talking about Florida, Missouri. Whoa. Talking about in Missouri. I think wherever year we're sitting here talking on this first Saturday weekend, November talking about Alabama Nella shoe. Most people a lot of people don't think LSU can hang with Alabama. What about you things? I wanna do is right off the bat give coach oh a lot of credit for what he's been able to do since taking over that team. He's really done a great job of pulling everybody together. They've had some big wins head of tough loss Florida, but just a well coach football team very physical team. And they know how to play with you know, as a group their defense. You know, we've had some guys on before me labor the point. But there will coach defense, but I think festively Stevens maker. It's really putting together really good package and borough doesn't get enough credit for for being really good solid quarterback. The big key for them, though to me is are they going to be able to score noth- points. He's only thrown three touchdown passes against power five teams. So they don't. Really explode and hit the big play on a lot of field. Those the other part that people have been talking about Alabama schedule, and it's nothing you can do about it when you have a schedule. But I know, and you know, having watched Alabama practice they get challenged every day against better players in practice than they usually say in game. So I don't think the fact that they haven't played anybody's going to bother them near as much as maybe playing in tiger stadium. That's certainly a tub venue. But they get challenged every week. This all week is help them from the standpoint of being able to go back, and look what was good for him. And the problems they've had and I look forward to run the ball affectively here. Because if I'm a deep coach got to stop this passing game with two and you start doing that. Then that's when they break these explosive plays, but it's a great venue for SEC for the national press corps, everything but Alabama to me unless they just make a few mistakes. I think it's. It's going to be hard for them to lose this game. As a former quarterback coach. And you were certainly a good one in college. Give us your view of two and in what he has to be concerned about tomorrow because. Yeah, no, he sees that good defense in practice. And we know what he did didn't land. But it is tomorrow night going to be any different for him. Or do you think it it's just another 'nother Saturday on the schedule? Well, you know, he's had kind of six six or seven walks in the park and he hasn't played in the fourth quarter. But he is a guy that's played big. When they they needed him against us last year in a championship game. He tremendously accurate quarterback this an gift for no one winded to anticipate the brakes, he just got a really good feel for throwing guys open. And he's got some human jets going down to feel and then Irv Smith on a crossing routes, and he's got the threat of play action and very good offensive line. But I think the big key for him is he just believes so much in himself. Whether he's planning to you. Lele or whether he's talking to the press, whatever he's doing. He just feels like he can do it. And that that's a great trait for any quarterback. I'll tell you another quarterback that we won't talk about on SEC much that I think's very comparable to to is kinda Murray for oh, you he's having a big year two and these two guys just show you what a dual threat quarterback in due on teams score prolific amount of points talking to coach Jim Don in coach. Let's talk about strategy. Devon, white is not in the first half. That is certainly not a new story. But it's but it's a could be a factor. If you're over on the offensive side as you've been so many times in my Kalac's leash chair consulting with Nick save and try and trying to figure out. Does that matter or not take us in that room? And let us know what what do you think they've been talking about all week? Well, there's another good key for Nick that I think he deserves a lot of credit while seven coaches last year, two different jobs some to head jobs like Pruitt going to Tennessee, but he's rebuilt his staff with two coordinators and they've been really fun shooting. Extremely well. I think when you have a player down, you always look at trying to make sure you tack whoever taking his place, but you don't wanna get so consumed in that that you forget about using your stuff too. I think this that LSU can use this as a big plus for some way, they can find a way to kind of blend together and make up for that loss. And then know these be there in the second half, and they haven't shot that can really help LSU. But I think from from the standpoint of code savings initial game plan, they'll probably do some certain things maybe attack that inside backer situation. And the thing about why is so good. He's a. A three down linebacker. He can play the regular downs, but he can play nickel and dime. So you're gonna probably have to have two or three different guys coming in for him in the first half. Coach strategy standpoint considering the success that album has had to do they really change anything. Or is it just to see what the setup is and tested, and how do you test that middle of the field? Well, they always do is having an open date like both these teams look what she'd been able to do. Well, and also what the other team you're going against us done. Well, and you know, maybe go with your strength against their weaknesses certainly LSU has tremendous secondary. But they play a lot of man coverage. And they when they go to man coverage in Alabama uses four and five wide receiver sets, greedy Wilson. Cain cover everybody. He can only cover one guy. So you know, who's going to cover these other guys out of the backfield. He's really good receivers that Alabama presents when they go to these different look. So I look for Obama to spread them out. See if LA she tries to play as much as they usually do and also affected. Lee used their running game some passing downs because LSU been hurt with some explosive plays on some big runs. The biggest key to me though for LSU is stopping these big plays. Alabama's had twenty two touchdowns over fifteen yards year, and you know, no interceptions. LSU's intercepted fourteen balls and given up very few big place. So it's force versus four here. I can't wait for the game. But I'm certainly going to be watching the BULLDOGS at three thirty before that one. One last question ala Bama coach in terms of Alabama's rushing attack. I mean, they've got three great running backs that we never talk about is that something that you just lewd to it for a second. But that's something we see more or does is it just a matter of just watching and waiting and taking your shots, you know, think setting up their offense and watching it evolve as a season progress, I think one of the big keys form was developing passing attack and using two streets with maybe giving up a little bit of the running game against some of these lesser opponents. But now they're going into the meat of the schedule against this defense against the Mississippi State defense who's really been pretty good this year. I mean, only two touchdowns in the last forty. Times other teams had the ball. And then you got all always plays. Pretty good defense. They're running games going to be important to because you know, sometimes when you throw in the ball he can't count on all these great completions. And all this tremendous protection. So it's a good security blanket. I think that's going to be something I'll have to out tomorrow night. Coach. Thank you as always great to have you on glad to be with you, Paul and hope you make it through the night without freezing to death. Well, I think I will. Thank you, though. Appreciate it coach Jim Don joining us from Athens. We're having quite a show. You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. As a young boy Gavin loved playing football. He lived in briefed wanted to go why he'd spent hours upon hours just his touchdown at one day. Well, getting by phone calls. He realized he was never much good at throwing or running or catching don't even kicking. Yeah. Gavin's chances of playing football. We're looking like fourth long very long, but he did hear how DIKO could save money on car insurance. So he switched and save. Then he did kind of touchdowns at least he was still good at that. We're welcoming in Commissioner of the southeastern conference Commissioner Sankey wh- what a weekend for college tomorrow. It's one of those weekends. You hope will happen. Great game in Jacksonville last week. They had a lot of meaning and into this week, and you can't draw it up better than what we're gonna see tomorrow. If you're watching and you're wondering, why is the Commissioner sitting there and a jacket next to a guy who? Who who looks like he's at the North Pole differences. I grew up in the south, and he grew up in upstate and say, this is July fourth. Here's upstate New York. It's a cool. Chris blustery forty degree day here that feel that to me is like the end of the world. But I fought all these students here who are just having a blast. And they're and they're about to not only say that the Commissioner, but their head football coach here and just a couple of minutes. And let's talk about that. Because there are a lot of familiar stories and one of them is a Baton Rouge. We see to traditional SEC powers playing in that familiar primetime slot, but not many people in media days predicted, maybe you missed but predicted this the the the the path to Atlanta through the SEC not great at predictions actually last year in a conversation with Mitch Barnhart Kentucky out off to great start. We had a conversation where mid said, you know, we're still in the hunt for the championship. And this was probably second week of October. And it's just an education in that expectation never. Dying and marks had to build a program rebuild the program. And you've seen that progress year to year on the reward is a little bit of patience. Sometimes that's hard patients pays off in your here with a chance to win an east division title and a game tomorrow, and we had the UK president couple of minutes ago. Somebody you've been friends with a long time, and he talked about the investment here and that commitment, and and I've said this I'll say it again two years ago, we were sitting here in this place was was on edge about the future. And it is interesting in. You appreciate when when people can block out the noise, it's not easy to do. You may have seen over the last couple of weeks a little bit of noise around. I have what I do. And it's not, and I'll tell you that's a lesson from our coaches and all share snus, so what Dr cavalier shared and what you'll probably hear from Mitch is true. But you look at our coaches in their focus week to week because you have to deal with the success successor disappointment and go back to your priorities and to do that here. I was here last time. I was here for a cold football game was Andreville different head coach. It was James of Franken was at Vanderbilt big win for them. And that's when chain started to happen. And now when you to around and see the facilities Bill support a football stadium. The support building baseball stadiums magnificent, but they've done that responsibly, and that's a testament to campus leadership, and that's a testament department leadership in. Awards are the ability to build the program the way, they have and basketball gets underway here a couple of hours and fans are certainly enthusiastic about that. And. Duke on on Tuesday night. Oh, big deal. Fact in Indy for that game kick off the season. I'm sorry. I had to make the change kick off the season. Yeah. And and it's it's interesting in basketball Kentucky's had this great success. But like in the last few years, I've been asked about Alabama football. And as it good to have this team that so far ahead. But I think in any of these programs, Tennessee, women's basketball, those LSU baseball that have had this sustained success. They set a level that everyone wants to achieve and that just elevates everyone of our programs, and that's true around men's basketball that we'll see this year where last year eighty eight teams in the NCAA tournament, and perhaps that level or more but intensely competitive, and that's what we're used to in the sport of football. And you're seeing it here. Lexington. I'm always intrigued by your travel schedule. Because it's it's it's almost every fan stream James says you got to go tonight. You'll see basketball tomorrow you'll be here part of the day. And then you head the Baton Rouge. That's pretty good double header for any fan at my doctor has always said how you get two games. You go to games the same way these folks. So. So I would argue it's a lot more fun and enjoyable for them despite the outcome a lot less pressure. That will be at soccer Sunday soccer championship be determined orange beach where I expect to be warmer, and then I'm just going to tell you my wife no ever thirtieth wedding anniversary Monday. So she's probably listening. I should get credit for that. And I clearly didn't plan on being in this role having been married in November. He's a wonderful wife, and I say someone who's a couple years behind you even though I'm a little bit older. It's it's hard to. That's a lot of people after thinking that that's a that's a big number. But that is a testament took us. In terms of like an arduous task. But that's quite an accomplished the arduous for her probably. Probably. There have been times in our relationship. When I started in this business where it's like you have to go to another football game. She understands better now, but she's been a part of it through the whole journey, and it's been a remarkable tale. So in terms of your travel, though, I'm always interested in this. How far out do you map it because you like soccer? You know that it's going to be on that Sunday. You know, pretty much know the Alabama LSU game is going to be monstrous. So do you is it is it planned very far in advance? Or do you look looking? Okay. I think this week to go here. Yes. And no, you know, next week. I'm going to have the privilege of being Whiteman air force base in Missouri. They fly the b two's last year at the Rose Bowl. I watched that happen. I ended up at at a dinner table with the commanding officer and CO and they invited me to spend a day with their leadership team. Those are the really fun those experiences. So I'll start in July trying to pencil some things, and I don't go terribly far out. Just trying to be at games, or there may be a reason for me to see someone or an issue last week. I went to games this week. Oh, ten to games. And I think the doubleheaders are done for the year the balls on Thursday night. So so that's an easy one. My general. Philosophy is to visit every campus once and see every team play twice. You can usually get close to that the season. But that's a lot of football. I will say this having been with Commissioner Sankey had games. This is right. You're you are working you're doing a lot of visiting your you're you're learning. You're talking to people you're talking to students. This is not just hey, let's go. Let's go cheer at a football game walked into the the game in Jacksonville, the Georgia and Florida game last week or Florida Georgia depending on which side you're on. I just want to be fair about that. And I was there through the through halftime. And I did not see, but maybe two snaps the football just visiting with people. We have a great relationship with the gator bowl folks there. We've had some championship events in Jacksonville. The city leaders have been great host toss. And obviously the university athletic department leadership TV, folks. And then next thing, you know, you're on the move. So that's part of the job. And we'll get to watch plenty of football on Sunday on. Some replays. And then the video center, maybe not some great play. So such great plays on Mondays usually are com. No. You know, the the cycle is tomorrow wake up, and there's just great anticipation. Sunday's a bit of triage, depending on what's taken place Monday. We go onto video review most of that's with our -ficiating group. But I'll go in Monday morning and then Monday through Wednesday. You know, the blood pressure's little bit higher in hopefully calms down by Thursday Friday, but we're looking for a good day tomorrow. Because we are in Kentucky and basketball's on the night. Follows us on on the SEC network. Oh, I wanna get your thoughts on that. Because there's been so much conversation about this league in basketball. And I know that you have you have shepherd pushed hard to elevate the status, and it all came together last year in March with the significant number eight in in the SEC, we we've had multiple guests on who are going higher than that some say eight nine ten I mean, the enthusiasm for this league is is is at a level that I'm not familiar with. I think that's right. In fact, I can remember first time, I visited Kentucky's campus Florida was one Kentucky was foreign basketball was Billy Donovan and tubby Smith that rough arena, and it was an incredible atmosphere. And that's from someone who grew up going to games in the carrier dome in no better atmosphere. And then the two thousand is when across the league, we just didn't perform at that level. And. I've told you before you credit Mike sly with with raising the conversation when he was chair the men's basketball committee, and then three years ago, we made some adjustments. You saw some coaching hires some facility investments that are still taking place there down working on route now, and that'll be a two year cycle is I understand. But what's happened to Florida? George old miss and their facilities. Mississippi State just announced a facility investment, which makes it serves as a foundation, and you've got coaches in this league that have these resumes that they brought to the SEC. So they weren't coming here to build the resume. They came here with a resume, and I think all of that's combined to put us in this position where we have high expectations, which we should we have that in every sport. And we just we didn't see it men's basketball. It's nice to have that reality back with us. Now that won't make January February much fun because of the intensity it will for the fans. I well. Anyway, I it always a pleasure to see you Commissioner congratulations again on on Monday. Thirtieth anniversary. Thank you. Next time we see each other. Let's make it warm. I have I have fun thoughts of this. And I think about us when we get together and destined, and it's just a little bit. Sure. Thanks, always great to see you Commissioner the southeastern conference Greg Sankey joining us here in Lexington for this incredibly busy and exciting weekend. Listening to Paul finebaum show podcast, and it gives me. Great pleasure to welcome. The head football coach of the Kentucky. Wildcats coach Mark stoops. And man coach to ask you on the air. I need a couple couple of tickets. Are you have been asked that all week? Have you hit up for a few tickets? That's that's a good thing. That's a good problem the half. So we're excited. You could tell the fan base is jacked up the communities fired up. So it's gonna be a good day. I know you're at least publicly your low key guy. But but and it's never over because the season still has plenty of weeks ago. But you got to be pretty happy with where I am definitely Paul just very pleased with our team this summer, you know, as we going through media days and all those things I was confident about this team. I felt good about the whole time. I knew we had so maturity some guys have been around for a while we had a few guys to replace and quarterback was the big one. But but felt good about him. So, you know, very pleased with the way the season's going obviously last week you and I were talking about it off the air. You know, that was one heck of a finished Bill. Coach, I know on the screen. There's always these percentage of wins in it was pretty low. But as a coach, I know you have to believe there had to be a point late night game. Where you're you're like going going going to go, right? Yeah. For sure once you know, once we got down there. And and I decided to go for it. And we didn't make the the conversion on fourth down. You know, the only reason I did that also they're backed up. I felt like the defense was playing exceptionally. Well in the second half. Obviously, I knew the field goal cut it to a one point lead. But the way we were struggling I just knew you know, we needed the points. And fortunately, we got the three and out and then had to punt return. Once we got the punt return, we had new life in felt pretty pretty good at that point that we'd have an opportunity as you're working way down time is is the essence. And then you get that crazy. Call in the end zone and then down to one play. Yeah. Down to one play obviously, very pleased with Terry men to work down. There was six for six on the drive and put us in great position. And at that point, you know, things we're looking so bleak. You just wanted an opportunity in had two shots at the end zone. Got the PI on the one. And then and then the last play the game CJ did a heck of a job Terry threw it in there and made the play it's been fairly steady. As we go all year long. And now you have this epic encounter. Do you just keep things to say, you do obviously, you know, it's I talked with the team every Monday about the the situation we're going into always changing, and we going into a hostile environment. Or you're playing a team that you're favored or whatever it is the situation always changes. And you know, so we address that on Monday who were playing obviously this week is different. You know, when you're competing for SEC east championship and playing at home that's a different situation than we have every week. And then obviously, we get into football keys and motivation and things like that. But we really keep the routine exactly the same in in. Really people. Ask me all the time. It's been hard. It hasn't been hard at all to keep the team in because they you know, they're coming off an emotional win. They're coming off a road game. They were they need. They need to recover a bit. You know, so Monday, and Tuesday, they were just putting all their energy and having great practices and the same with Wednesday, and so on so, you know, it's been a it's been a normal week a great routine. I really like we're our teams out right now. And I like their. Focus. We we talked to so many different people including your president. And this is a somewhat of a tired story now. But it's, but it's a significant story about where this program was the support you were given the patients that the administration showed and many now are looking at this as the template that to the right way to do things. I hope so I hope so for for coaches sake because you know, again, every situation is different. Right. You know, in you know, I know when I come into this situation. I knew what I was getting into. And there was no there was no quick fixes there. If there was a quick fix their you're doing something wrong. So you know, you don't wanna do that. There was you know, you just had to put in the work. He played to put in the time. You had to have great support. I wouldn't have been interested. If I didn't feel the support from the president, and the athlete director, and they have been they've been nothing, but supportive, and I say that it's been a little bit of a model around here. But it's true. It takes all of us. It takes the fan base. It takes the coaching takes the administration, and the players is a bunch of people that involves turning a program and turning a culture in, you know, very proud of the work that we put in as you look ahead to tomorrow. I said everything is the same. But it will be a little bit different at three thirty one of the great scenes we've ever seen here. Yeah. There's no doubt in work cited about that. You know, our fans deserve it. They've been very loyal, and they've waited a long time. And in there's been a lot of people that have worked hard to put us in this position all the past coaches, the former players, you know, the current players, and like I said, they ministration a lot of people worked very hard for many years. The put ourselves in this. You've had so many milestones this year from the from the win at Florida to what happened last week as well. As tomorrow when you speak to your team when you visit with them tonight when you say when you send them out tomorrow is the message the same as it would have been the previous week or do you alter we always alter the message? You know, you know, it just depends on there's there's always things we touch on each and every week, and we build on that throughout the week in, you know, but but a lot of the things are going to stay consistent the things that it takes to win a football game. And in that's, you know, with us, you, you know, you have to be physical. You know on both sides of the last Greenwich. We know what we're getting into Georgia. We have great respect for them. And how well coached they are. And and, but you you have to have a mentality in and be physical on both sides of the ball. You know, you know, that you know, that protecting the football is always going to be a big big deal. You know, so we have to, you know, make sure we take care of the football and try to create some turnovers and then situational football. We've been really good at winning situations. You know, you can play a good football game the entire game. If you don't win a certain situation, whether it be a two minute drill goal line stand or four minute defense or something like that. So we always have to be good knows Aries. Every everyone in every program has different measuring sticks for success. I think most would agree this has been incredibly successful season about you. When you look at what what's happened where you've come from to where you are on the precipice of one of the most memorable in biggest weekend we've ever seen at the university of Kentucky. Yeah. I'm definitely proud of that as I said, I think you know, it you have to take care of your business early in the season. And all you know, all through the off season, you have to really be doing things right to put yourself in a position to win any sort of championship in the SEC. There's a lot of programs that you have to leapfrog to get in that position. So definitely am. But you know, again, you get you know, you're bouncing around so much taking care of the daily tasks it's just like getting over here. I just got off the practice field and just ran over here. And just you're worried about the next thing you have to do to put your team in a position to be successful. I've always been interested this because it's it's hard. When when you're when you're as busy as you are to to soak it in Sydney, that's not your job that's for the fan. But tomorrow. Can you take a second? Okay. This is what we've worked for. Well, I again, I will embrace the atmosphere now embrace the situation. You know, the fans deserve it or community deserves our players deserve it. You know? So I'll embrace that. And look forward to it. And I want it like that every week and to get it like that every week you have to take care of your job and take care of business all all year long. So in that way, I will be excited about it. And then the rest of the time it's about what are we? That's correct. I know you have a lot to do. But we are we've had so much fun. This year. We're talking to your players and talking to you as often as you been able to come on. We were delighted that you could make time. Thank you, some good good players on their guys are really good good kids and really enjoyed a coach. So thank you very much. Always good to be on with you. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Rutledge has joined us here. Welcome to walk to the North Pole. Someone will. Yeah. Chilly. Yeah. The North Pole hearing Kentucky. But I tell you what it does not feel like a chilly atmosphere with the enthusiasm. That's everywhere. I actually was just spending some time with Vinny Snell, Josh Allen, you wanna know about how ready. These guys aren't for this game. Yeah. It's amazing after new here we've had more stoops. And of course, the president. We'll have the director and many more people. But before we get to the tomorrow, tell us where we're we will what Chile environment via next week environment for next week is Arkansas and that will be the next stop for SEC nation as we head there. LSU go into a Bill, and we will be there for that game. So can't wait to get there and see the hogs and also, of course to see also get to see LSU as well. Speaking of LSU. Let's welcome and Desmond Howard live from Baton Rouge. Be there for game day tomorrow just saw him on a mid week game. Jasmine, great to have you on. So tell us about Baton Rouge. I know that's place you've been many many times. But what about this weekend? Well, this weekend is beautiful outside code me. But you know, people are excited about this game tomorrow night. Let's talk about a dozen. You have been slow to warm to the LSU Tigers this year, are you? I'm sure there folks in the on the by you have greeted you warmly, of course, as always they love me here. They. Honorary member typer nation. We're the receptive. Been extraordinary for me. Always a respected to steiger's. They respect my thing. But we have pretty good relationship right now. Don't mess. This up. Here. I won't let Paul continue to mess up your relationship with the people there are bad Rouge. But just what you get about. How this LSU team feels about Alabama because even Joe borough sane this week? Hey, don't come outta the locker room if you're going to be scared of the tide. Think that's the attitude that you have to adopt in a game of this bag, the two you have to just, you know, just be about yourself and about your came. What you do? And you know, you can't be afraid of you pony. Go out there. You can't coach scared. One of those games that you have to in my opinion, coach aggressively. You can't coach scare. So, you know, I think that's the right attitude to come into a game of this magnitude with. Doesn't joining us from Baton Rouge. Desmond. We're in Lexington today. A number. Kentucky students are eagerly anticipating your view of the wildcat. So far. The wildcat is a Kentucky. Basketball team. I have a lot of respects. What they've been able to -ccomplish this year. I think that they they earned a tremendous amount of respect, you know, the right way in that playing on the field taking care of Conan's and doing what they do. I think they their team that fees off the Finnish sale junior and Vinnie. Still junior is a guy who plays with the chip on his shoulder. And you know, no matter what level of success. He still is able to go out there and play, you know, with the type of of of anger, and aggression that you would that you would expect from a player who who who believe he's stuff. You know, he's this stuff his life, especially as a as a high school senior just being recruited by a handful of schools. So the school team fees off of his energy. And that's why one they're wanting to teams in the country right now. I mean, they deserve their ranking and tomorrow is another step towards gaining dash dole respect on the college football landscape. Yeah. You mentioned tomorrow Desmond. And obviously Georgia BULLDOGS are a big blockade in the way of what Kentucky wants to do. I feel like Georgia hasn't played a fully complete football game yet this year. And yet they still won a lot of games, of course, only one law. So what does Georgia need to do to come out on the road and get a big win. Well, I most they gotta put last week game behind him. I mean, it was a huge victory over one. The biggest rival, you know up in Jacksonville. You know, great for the BULLDOGS they really needed that after they just laid in egg LSU. So that was stuffing from a confidence standpoint that they needed is great. But now they have to about that. And really focus on the Kentucky. Wildcats you cannot go into Lexington and take the team lightly because they're not to be played with though at that's the first order today. You gotta have the right mental mindset going into this game. And and as far as I believe one is better games. His Seth game last week against the Florida Gators, and he's going to have to build off that not just from the whole often. So I think that the two of the things that right out the gate about what the what? To do in order to go up in there and handle their business. The Wildcats Kentucky. Does our joining us live from ESPN or from Baton Rouge? Well, he'll be on ESPN college game day does thanks so much. Really? Appreciate it. And we'll talk to you very very soon. Thank you. Does howard? You say it was cold. Good for him. Sixty eight. Seventy degrees. But Paul I mentioned before we started talking just spending some time with Benny Snell. Josh Allen, of course on tomorrow. He'll get to see the interviews that they did with both markets fears Tibo, and it was just interesting talking to Josh Allen, first and foremost, I think he represents so much of what this Kentucky program has been about. What coach stoops has done. Josh Allen was a two star player. No one cared about him. No one wanted him. And then right now when you look at its development here he is now arguably the best defensive player in the country. He's the most disrupted in fact day more than really anybody else does is being a single man in his position, obviously as a great complement of guys on this defense. But I think what you look at with Kentucky a belief in Mark stoops and a belief in the development of the way that he developed his players and sticking with him. And now we're seeing that culminate in one of if not the biggest games in Kentucky history. And so it's it's. Special to see how much these guys care about it. But also to see their confidence it's very evident going into this one. Yeah. And and in talking to Mark soups. He was with us about an hour ago and just listening. He hasn't been he's done a really good job of playing the underdog of going out to going to Kentucky to Ohio particularly Kentucky as well. Of course. And getting players that slip through the cracks turn no one else wanted right? And you think about that? And there are a lot of schools that have done that and had success with it. You know, maybe a look at Mississippi State. That's got some guys other people didn't want, but they also get those in state guys that are really talented in the trenches really good Lyman just happen to be in the state of Mississippi. It's much harder to do that here. And it's also harder to do that and then compete for an SEC title. And so I think that's where you really see the magnitude of how this coaching staff is healthy players along. And you know, they're they're going to have a pro day here. It some point in the winter. There's gonna. NFL scouts ear at this day. And and first of all you're going to see those guys on the field for the rest of their college careers. But when they get to the NFL, I think a lot of Kentucky fans would be really proud. There's no doubt. And. That will be part of our our seeing Tamara, Laura. I mean, we. Just looking at the enthusiasm ready. We had just tremendous crowds in rather cold chilly environment. I think tomorrow this place is going to be crazy bring some friends tomorrow. Needed to hear we want everyone to come out and be a part of our show and. Really is a celebration of Kentucky football. And obviously a chance for Georgia to really submit themselves as well. So it's gonna be exciting. But we'll let you go warm up. I mean, are you going to survive? I just want you to send me out. Another hand because this one is gone. I chilled the hand more. Real quick before. I go. Do you think that LSU really can challenge Alabama? Like in your heart of hearts. No, no. So what do you think the score of the game's going to be? I will. I'm still waiting for the computer spit, Al. But but I don't think it's going to be a blow out, but I really and not. Just not sold on their offense. I agree with you about the offense. I think that LSU's defense is good enough to actually challenge Alabama at least for a half and maybe longer, and you never know death valley. Look, I know you. The game. But it will be an actual test. Which I I'm fascinated. See this is a really exciting Saturday in exciting adventure into November that I think could be topsy turvy. So let's go to listening to Paul finebaum show podcast. Temperatures dipping just like they like it here in the bluegrass and Tim tebow who's played in some subzero temperatures before in his NFL career, not even wearing a coat. I wish I had one. I'm not trying to be back on. Well, Anthony went out and bought me this today at at a discount store. Let's get on. You know, it's it's it's the PICO for P town. I'm sticking with the rest of the day. I don't care what the label is it saying with me the rest of the year, Tim, let's talk about this game. I in the U often played on to significantly successful teams at Florida you've been here anytime. So just your assessment of what this program has done in where we are going into tomorrow. Well, I think it's exceptional coach has done over the past few years. And and why I believe it's exceptional is not just because of of Benny Snell and the winds and being able to compete for the SEC title that is awesome. But that's just a one year thing where I've been super impressed is the development of talent. So the perfect example is Josh Allen a few years ago. Josh Allen was a to star that nobody else wanted. He came in here. Trying to find a position two hundred and ten pounds. He kind of played a little receiver db in high school. They didn't. What he's going to be. But they said, you know, what there's a tall lanky guy that we can probably develop and they brought him in. He went from two ten to two hundred sixty pounds. And now he is a freak off of the edge. And he's unstoppable. And he's probably going to be one of the top three defensive players off the board in a couple of months. And that's because they they saw something that other people didn't and they were willing to inves-, which is what a young person is you invest in them. And you wait to see it's going to pay off and for Josh Allen has but it's not just Josh Allen. It's you look all around this team. And they're young guys that have been able to develop in come together as a team. That's why they're ready to compete at a high level. But I don't think when when Josh and Benny leave that they're gonna fall off dramatically because they have the next guys that are developing. And that's how program is built. And it is it is very significant program. We head coach stoops here about an hour ago. We've had the president we'll have the athletic director. This is a such an. Mazing time on this campus. But it won't go away won't be for naught. But if they can win tomorrow. Talk about what what's at stake. It. It changes everything if you're able to win and then went out and go to the SEC championship, regardless of what happens in Atlanta, you've done something that no one thought was possible you're able to overcome Georgia, Florida, South Carolina. So many teams that you think will they just have more talent. And if this team's able to run out of the tunnel in Atlanta, you think wow, they have done something. Incredible. Just to get to this point where SEC nation is here where this game matters in November. I mean the last time that they'd had a game. Like, this was when we travel here in two thousand seven they had a really good team in game day was here, and you don't then they had the good teams in weeks after that game. They went to death valley and beat LSU and a double overtime game and LSU won the national championship. So Kentucky can have good football teams. But what happened was they competed in seven and then they were nowhere eight and nowhere nine and then they had another teams that competed a little bit. And then they were gone in any kind of a flash in the pan. But I think the difference about this team in stoops is that they're not a one hit wonder they're not going on a streak and then being gone. I think that they're here to compete for a while in the because they're trying to build a holistic program of development. And that's what's different about this team. Then in the past Tim, we talked so much about the defense. When we talk about Benny, let's talk about Terry Wilson at the quarterback position. Because there there have been. Times when this offense gets lost a little bit. And last week was one of them until they came back at the end. Yeah. But in that last drive it could easily gone the other way the pass interference. That could have been a no call it could've been often specimen fears. The next play the touchdown that could have easily been a push off that could easily been a push offense push off. So. I think if you wanna if you wanna look out. Also mused right now. I've never heard of crowd dissing. Tito, this is really interesting. We'll knock him out again. If you want to understand, what makes Kentucky success. So that was they're playing to win. And it's being of a run the ball stopping the run. And then it's their pass rushers. Getting after the passer Kentucky as well when their head. They play terrible when they're behind. So you look at the games that they've been behind AM couldn't score an offense couldn't get past the fifty and then against against Missouri. And so when they fall behind, and it's not they get out of their game plan, then they they dramatically drop us how good of a team they are. So I think it's important for Kentucky to. Yes. Playing have that game plan to win. But you've got to find a way to get Terry going early and not just with the passing game with this lakes. Listen, he's the legit four three runner. Get him going find a way quarterback draws keepers boots. But let him play with confidence. I feel like the second half. He didn't play with confidence until the last drive. But did that last drive that last play give him a spark to play in this game in this stadium with? Confidence. Again that Georgia team. I think that'll be key before you go. I don't forget about Baton Rouge. It certainly a fascinating game. And you've been asked about it all day, and all I'm sure all week just among friends, but what is your Cessna of what LSU faces tomorrow night? Well, I think they face the best team in the country. And I think they face the juggernaut. It's really tough. But I think the keys to win for LSU is number one. You've got to find a way to get multiple turnovers. I think if you get turnovers you give yourself a chance second. I think you got to force Alabama to kick field goals. They're going to move the ball. But don't give them six. Don't give up the big touchdowns. Enter the game breakers. Find a way to stay in by making them stopping them on third and goal. Finding them away to just have to kick. Right. Even if you're behind give yourself a chance and the third quarter. And then I think there Joe borough has to find a way to get third down conversions with his lakes because Alabama it's gonna combo coverage. Take away your Cevers. And so he can get by the defensive line, then he can. Convert and that keeps the ball out of two hands. And it keeps the crowd into it. I think those three things will be key. So many interesting games tomorrow. Tim, thanks for braving the cold in in just a shirt, not a store bucks jacket. Like, I have or a ski cap I'm in fresh. Did they love TV? You're listening to Paul finebaum show podcast one of the all time greats here Jacob Tammy. And the all time great talk show host in this town history. Jones. How's it going Paul grace e c u you? Thank you. That's enough. Joe's will be with Jacob. You played on ten eleven years ago and some pretty pretty big time of vents in in stages in this stadium. What's this life for you to return? Well, it's I mean this team has made it a ton of fun for all of us alums all season this year, and to have the the stakes we have on the line on Saturdays, really special, man. I can't get over. We sat here two years in about two weeks ago. And we were we were trying to be nice to prop up Mark Mark stoops's career chances of survival. You thought he was done. I didn't think he was done. But I they need to win that game. That I mean Austin McGuinness had a field goal. And if he missed it. I don't know what happens, but you know, Jacob played the last time there was a game. Like this game day was here the play Kibo played Florida. But I would by the way. This is bigger than that terms of the fact, you can win the SEC, and there's you know this. There's a lot of fans Kentucky fans who've been waiting their entire lives for tomorrow. I think it's going to be a big thing. They used is on the line is the biggest gain. We've had Kentucky football thirty years. Fifty years. I don't know forever long as I've been alive. So that is what makes it so special and this team just this defense. Incredible incredible. And I think I'm gonna say right now our offense surprises some people tomorrow. So we've got a thing we got a chance you realize, but I started thinking on the plane coming over. I I was in the stadium in nineteen seventy seven when Tennessee played half. And that was a significant. That was the only other time. There have been two teams play. This highly ranked in Lexington was was that year. And here's the all you gotta say Tuesday night taking place Duke in basketball. They do. Nobody's talking. Like we spent entire show today. My radio show and didn't even mention it. I've never seen this town like this. And I would argue I think along with the nineteen eighty five final four. This is the biggest sporting event to ever be in Lexington. I'm serious. I mean name no regular season basketball game is like this. When Kentucky plays in the final four. It's always somewhere else. You know, American Faeroes Breeders Cup was in Lexington. But besides that, I would say. Let me think of what the bigger one. I don't know of bigger one the fact that they could get to the SEC championship game. When they've never been. I think it's the biggest sporting event here certainly my lifetime. But maybe longer can agree more. I love the beer, Scott. It's got nothing on this tomorrow nothing on this tomorrow. And you know, we just keep. Fortunate to talk to the team this summer. I told him we need higher than seven a decade ago when we had those great wins and had a lot of fun. It's gotta shoot higher than that. And and they have and here we are with a chance for the east here in Lexington. It's unbelievable. And you know, I think our defense has been so good so good so good. So keep waiting for them to not be as good as they've been. And they just keep being that good every week. And I think that's going to be a big test tomorrow force. And I can't wait to see if they can seven like you got the big win. They got the big win against LSU beat the number one team. But then lost the Florida. And then this kind of fell apart lost Mississippi State lost Tennessee the difference for this group is they got that Florida win was the massive win. But then followed it up by beating Mississippi State and then follow that beating South Carolina. Jacob adding that's what Kentucky teams in the past weren't doing. We know are seventeen was a ton of fun, and I'm so thankful for what we're able to do for the fan base back then and those that those couple years we had six. Seven the fun. We had the big winds we had, but we weren't able to do in the SEC what this team has already done in the SEC. So it sets us up for everything you could ask for tomorrow. And that's the difference. They're guaranteed the first winning record in the SEC since nineteen seventy seven. That's just incredible. That just that's the tick and think about this. You also have Alabama LSU tomorrow. And I actually think you hear almost as much if not more chatter about Kentucky, Georgia. It's crazy is that. I think I could speak as a veteran of the Alabama LSU series. There's really nothing new about that. Yeah. It it's the same scenario. Ken LSU? Find a way to slow Alabama down this is. Yeah, this is all new do you think if they win tomorrow, you think Mark stoops national coach of the year? Yes. I think tomorrow's asked about that today. The SEC coach of the year could be determined tomorrow. If Kentucky wins and LSU loses because I think those are the candidates right now. But in terms of the national coach of the year getting Atlanta because there's a lot of interesting accomplishments, but no one came from farther back and Jake Jacobs from Kentucky, you know, like this Jacobs from a place day invol-, which is like a football town. Yes, this state. This is a state that has a basketball great program, but at its heart in some ways, especially on the high school of a football ball country. Yes. I think that's one of the reasons. People are so excited. This state has been dying for good football for a long time. We have the fan base has been behind the football team forever. And that was what for me was so fun back to six oh seven we were able to give the fan base so many good moments and some of those big wins because I've been part of that fan base since birth. So now to be here. And have a chance for the biggest one is special for me. I know it's special for our fan base because we do have such this state loves it's football. No one on the outside understand. It's it's basketball country. And we love our basketball team. But this they love this. I've heard that from many people that that will call in take us a little deeper in that mentality because it's still hard to think about when you make that statement that there are pockets of the state that are. State that have these huge high school football Boyle county, close Cincinnati fort Thomas, highlands, were Jerry, Lorenzo the school may feel belfry bell. There's all these places that have great football traditions. And everybody has wanted to be a part. I mean, we're in the SEC you guys all care about football, the most, and we almost never got to be part of this like when your show came on the air, we used to listen, and we wanted to be part of the trash talking. But what are we going to say I want to go to Matt from Gainesville? You all suck. But I want to be able to say it, and it actually means something we haven't been able to and Jacob now we can. And I think that's one of the reasons people are so amped is because they finally get to participate in the thing that this conference has always cared about the most you can stay with a straight face as a Kentucky football fan. And we'll probably find out even more tomorrow. How much we can say this. We might have the best defense in the country. I mean, they might that's not. I mean right now they're tied with Clemson for the scoring defense lead. That includes an overtime game, which Clemson hasn't had. And listen, I mean, they're able to do it when the offense is often getting off the field. And so they're having to play long stretches of time Paul h straight three and outs against Missouri. Drew? We can't do it. Can we do it against this team? Can we do it against this team? Can we do it against Missouri? A real good quarterback. And we do it. We didn't give them a first down in the second half. It's unbelievable. I mean, the improbability that game. I think. Forty eight hours after that game to believe it that. That's the game. We always lose. We've always been on the other side of those maybe. White Missouri fans felt is the way how many times lardo Florida the bluegrass miracle twice last year. They lost on the last play. Like all of those things, you know, Missouri. Did the things Kentucky used to do the block in the back on that interception? Done. I don't know what kind of defense owed them was playing there at the end of the game on the last minute. It's almost like it feels like it's a team of destiny and we'll find out tomorrow. The fifty fifty calls when our way it just never happens that way, it's this year interference. Usually Kentucky fans are the ones railing about that call on this time, they got it. So jacob. So Jacob give this crowd and give this audience. Reasonably Tamar Kentucky win the game. Reasonably is simple. I think our defense is one of the best in the country. We'll find out tomorrow if we are the best in the country. And I think I'll say this. Our offense has struggled at times this year. We have our quarterback. Now, he was he was a bright spot. Even when we were struggling off into last week. I think Terry gets better. And better as a season goes on. I think we've found some playmakers on offense. Lynn Boden has emerged CJ Conrad is alive and well ready to make some plays. Benny snail maybe gets back going again big test against Georgia's defense. But I think our offense comes back to life tomorrow. And I think we play a nice game. I think we went. Thank you so much for coming by my pleasure. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Dusk has fallen over. The Commonwealth mad Jones with us the rest of the way and Mike Griffin. Joining us as he did last week from dog nation of great to see Mike. We we survived Jacksonville and someone who's covered the SEC a lot come and gone. Couple of times do you ever dream? We'd be having a game. Like this in Lexington. No, I didn't. And I thought the goal posts come down here. Once when Kentucky beat Alabama in nineteen ninety seven and what an amazing night that was for Kentucky football. And and no I did not expect to see Kentucky. I'd be lying. If I said, I think they beat. I said they'd beat do his first years in shown Alexander Kentucky's. Oh, no that night. Do you? Do you think Georgia? I know this Kentucky defense is very good. How much respect to the Georgia coaches real? I know they realize how good Jon Allen is. But is it do other teams give as much respect to Kentucky's defense is say Kentucky fans and everybody around here Georgia does because I heard Jim Chaney at practice all week. And he reminded these guys over and over and over that Kentucky is number one in the nation in scoring defense. And all you had to do is look at the second half, Missouri to see that. I don't know if they got a first down. I mean, they dominated the second-half, Missouri. Did what they had to do. And that's what they've done all year Kentucky keeps finding ways. And that's what football's really all about numbers. Talking to Mike. And of course, Matt Jones here. Let's talk about the catch not the cats, but the dogs were amended in what we saw last week. How did it differ and what was done during that by week to propel them to that victory? Yeah. It was really important by week. We saw what LSU's pressure did did Jake from. I think they pressured him eleven times, and you completed two passes last week Jake was very good against pressure. I believe it was ten out of twelve and threw a touchdown pass. So they were able to work on their protection on the offensive line. Maybe work on some of those routes as well. And we saw JJ Hallam in emerge. I mean, Georgia's got so many young playmakers. You look on the preseason. All let's see offense. There's not one Georgia guy that was first team preseason all offense. And right now, they've got a couple of guys that are starting no merge. I'm interested in how Georgia chooses to defend Kentucky a lot of teams have put Missouri. Did this put a number guys in the box and basically dared Terry Wilson to throw the ball on for a lot of the game that. That worked. Do you think that will be Georgia's game playing basically try to shut down any snail and say, hey, somebody else out there has to be too. Well, you'd be crazy. If you let the other teams best player beat you. But that said Kirby has played a lot of deep and would really prefer to play the run with six guys and not give up the chunk place. That's something that Georgia has been very good at I believe they've only given up more than two plays longer than twenty five yards in one game. And that was LSU so early on. I think you'll see George try and see what it's going to take to stop Benny if it takes aided Kirby take eight he's not going to get beat by the run game. Ideally, that's his mentality. The ROY is not going to be what beats Georgia Kentucky's going to have to make some plays over the top. They ask you about mentality. And we we spent a lot of time. This we talk about what's his game means here. Let's factor in a couple of things Georgia's coming off of its biggest win of the year. It's an emotional win. Day. No, we're talking about here. But but. Fido at Kirby smart has said Georgia players really by in that they're at Ted Kentucky Kentucky. These aren't the same. George played beat Kentucky last year. I don't see Nick Kelvin Sony. Michelle running out that tunnel anytime soon right yet. Player of the year on Georgia's team. They got a lot of guys that have been there. But necessarily haven't done that yet. He's young guys they've got to make a name for themselves. And this is the place to do it. I mean Kentucky has already celebrated the season in Times Square. Time square. This game has even kicked off yet. You're celebrating and lex you got about while you can't. While you can't next week. I let me ask you. What about let's think about the worst scenario for Georgia? Yeah. Let's say Kentucky wins this game. What are the Georgia fans? What's the reaction? I mean here it'll be absolute ecstasy. But what's the reaction if they lose lose the SEC and lose it to conduct? Yeah. You know? Well, you know, this curvy smart, the people bleed he's got a dynasty in the making George that would kind of derail that narrative. Yeah. That'd be pretty pretty steep fall from grace. I think it would affect recruiting as well. So this is an absolute must win for Georgia football. It's Kirby continues to ascend try to get on that Alabama. Love. They got a lot of five star guys. But Benny tells you those five stars don't matter. Benny was the three star. He said, hey, those ratings that these other players have higher than them Kentucky says throw them out the window. They're just as good Jon Allen was a two star. The only other offer had was Monmouth. And he might be the best defensive player in Georgia's got back it up. I mean, if they want to go out there with these star ratings, and these recruiting classes and this narrative that Kirby smart has George on the verge of dynasty. This is the game. You got to win and they had their loss on the road at LSU. Let's say let's see if Georgia has grown up enough to handle this environment. That's waiting for him. Because I know it's going to be a mad house in there tomorrow, you just you just opened up. I think is really intriguing in because this was not Georgia fans. I think we're realistic. This was. Not a national championship team. But they were expecting at least to get to Atlanta. And and take a shot at a minimum. They've got to win the east for the season to be considered. The fact that it is Kentucky doesn't need raise the stakes. I mean, if you lose to Florida, maybe no shame in that traditional power. You lose to Kentucky recruits on the phone wanting to know what's going on. And maybe even checking Kentucky out on some visits. I actually think for Kentucky. This is one of those sort of recruit making game. I mean, they they they have taken the view they are bringing in literally the biggest recruits this the biggest recruiting weekend they've ever had here in terms of the players that are coming in. And you're right. This is kind of a make or break game. But I'm back to that mentality of sort of being derailed. I always thought that Georgia was next like, it was just I don't know. How long savings got left next say they lose this game Auburn next week in the disappointment bowl. Right. Yeah. I would say so in Georgia does look like they're next. They've got a lot of young talent. There's a lot. Guys that are still emerging on this George team. You know, it's the youngest team in the SEC more than two thirds of the Georgia rosters freshman and sophomore. So if they were to lose, which I don't think they will join away don't think they would if they were to lose. It would definitely be. Bury the lead. So you're not fricking Kentucky to win this game picking Dougie to win this game. Football, right? Right. Right. Let me just say this. I know you need to take this interview. Phone. Call Georgia is a wonderful institution. Athens is a great place to be you all just hired. Tom crane is your basketball coach Tom Crean sales in mediocrity. And I cannot wait to watch tomorrow Kentucky. I think is going to show that this Georgia team has L overrated going into the season. Now, listen, I think they'll be back. They'll be back was a really good point. This team has freshmen sophomores next year. They're going to be on top of the east again. But I feel like this is Kentucky's time, and I think they take them tomorrow. It could be it could be oldest youngest team. You know, you look at what you maybe Cal sends a couple of those basketball players pets. Basketball. The plays downfield because I don't see anybody. That's going to beat that Georgia's secondary tomorrow. Well, if they do have somebody to beat to beat the secondary. It's gotta be Lynn bode. Lynn boat and had thirteen receptions, second most in school history. And he was targeted thirteen times. And caught them all thirteen times that's going to happen because trash talk or not I agree with you. He's really the only guy that could give them that. They're going to have to hit a couple of deep shots. They can't win. And it's going to be interesting to see how Kirby defends because the Andre baker's been the highest rated corner in the country. He shut down some pretty good receivers. Will they have him shadow him where we'll Kirby play different guys and try to play that too deep and not get beat. It'll be real interesting to see how aggressive Georgia's on offense as well. I'm not convinced that they can come out and run the football actively without Jake from completing passes downfield and on the perimeter to open things up. Okay, break it up, boys. Come in here and talk a little trash. Hey. Hey. Before you go you want to take any more basketball shots these bat. I can't say anything about this basketball one of the best in the country. Say Hello over there in the battle do that. Mike, always applies your we'll see you said, thank you. For listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. The Paul finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning stir.
Introducing Drafted Season 2
"Drafted as a production of shreveport media klutch sports group and iheartradio with the first pick in the two thousand and twenty nba draft. The minnesota timberwolves select. Imagine this. you've been playing basketball since you were little dreaming of going pro. Then it happens life. Is you know it changes with one phone call. Thank you won't be regret this keegan. Michael key and welcome to draft it in our first season of the podcast. We followed eight football players. Do the twenty twenty nfl draft in this second season we follow to college. Basketball phillips explosive. Anthony edwards who start at the university of georgia and the university of kentucky's reese maxi arguably the hardest working player in the draft. Now i was getting up at six. Am man working out with poor practice before ways before class. Don't doing the core. Classroom is still hard. Anthony entire east will mike themselves up until their own stories giving us a raw honest look at what it takes to go from childhood dreaver to college star to being chosen as one of only four hundred fifty nba players in the world. But also maybe it'd be a stands for no boys allowed my feel like any person any human being has been through what i've been to. You can't do nothing. He's always the chip on his shoulder. I think you need those things to be a great player. I just really. This is their real life as it unfolds in real time and we'll go further behind the scenes in this season of the podcast with unprecedented access to their agents. Klutch sports group founder and ceo. Paul having dragged was on what you here and their of basketball omar wilkes draft before. It's all a game of chess. There's always been a mystique to draft but undrafted relive every detail from the players perspective before during and after one of the biggest days of these athletes lives draft going to get drafted tonight. We still listen and follow drafted right now on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.
Introducing Drafted Season 2
"Drafted as a production of shreveport media klutch sports group and iheartradio with the first pick in the two thousand and twenty nba draft. The minnesota timberwolves select. Imagine this. you've been playing basketball since you were little dreaming of going pro. Then it happens life. Is you know it changes with one phone call. Thank you won't be regret this keegan. Michael key and welcome to draft it in our first season of the podcast. We followed eight football players. Do the twenty twenty nfl draft in this second season we follow to college. Basketball phillips explosive. Anthony edwards who start at the university of georgia and the university of kentucky's reese maxi arguably the hardest working player in the draft. Now i was getting up at six. Am man working out with poor practice before ways before class. Don't doing the core. Classroom is still hard. Anthony entire east will mike themselves up until their own stories giving us a raw honest look at what it takes to go from childhood dreaver to college star to being chosen as one of only four hundred fifty nba players in the world. But also maybe it'd be a stands for no boys allowed my feel like any person any human being has been through what i've been to. You can't do nothing me. He's always the chip on his shoulder. I think you need those things to be a great blair. I just really. This is their real life as it unfolds in real time and we'll go further behind the scenes in this season of the podcast with unprecedented access to their agents. Klutch sports group founder and ceo. Paul having dragged was on what you here and their head of basketball omar wilkes draft. Unlike any before. It's all a game of chess. There's always been a mystique to draft but undrafted relive every detail from the players perspective before during and after one of the biggest days of these athletes lives draft going to get drafted tonight. We still protest. Listen and follow drafted right now on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.
Episode 8- Supporting Local Cut Flower Growers
"Welcome to the Sunshine Gardening podcast this gardening show what liquidity and inspire avid gardeners with weekly tips and tricks to help them navigate the gardening world. The show will also highlight specific growing requirements for several plants, south, assemble shine brighter over there. Kentucky Garden and now here. Is that ray of Sunshine? Garden enthusiasts and Horticulture Extension Agent Kristin Hildebrand with the University of Kentucky Cooperative Extension Service. Did you know that July is American? Ground cut violent. Yes so now is the perfect time to celebrate the abundance of locally grown cut flowers, and the farmers that grow them to discuss more about cut flower production. I interviewed my good friend and coworker Alexis Schiff field to ask her why July is such a special month for cut flower growers Alexis is the Bull County extension agent for horticulture in Danville Kentucky and in her spare time she runs her very. Very own flower farm called wild rates find out more from our interview together on how you can bright American, grown cut, flower month, and how you can also support Local Cup flower farms right here on the Sunshine Gardening podcast today I am so excited to be visiting with Alexis, Sheffield and she's a CO worker friend of mine, and she is also the bull county extension, agent or horticulture Texas. Hey, what's? I'll I'm so excited to have me on my podcast tonight because we are talking things that are related to cut flowers. Flower person so I'm right there with you. Girl right there with Ya I think flowers do bring a lot of joy, and especially right now during this town that we're in, it's really important to have those cultural blames coming from whether your garden or coming in from these our forms that we have so slightly I think they've helped with quarantine and a lot for sure all Ma Gosh yes, absolutely. Absolutely now, this is going to start at the show. I feel like you have a unique story. You're an educator in also cut our grower your sale. So why don't you just tell some of the listeners today on podcasts a little bit about yourself? Okay, sure. Yes, so I to the University of Kentucky and I got my bachelor's and my master's in plain scientists so like uber planner over here. Right and so then and I'm like you said. I'm the extension agent I've been in Boyle County. This is my first. My first big job and I have been here since two thousand thirteen, so iconic can't believe it I'm like no, no, that was like a year ago and I'm like Oh those seven years ago. So? That's been a fun realization this year that I've been here that long, but it's been a good time, and so I got married four years ago and I was already of doing flowers for people's weddings, just friends of mine that were getting married. They're like Oh you know things up plant, so you must know about floral design, which is a common misconception, but I really enjoy doing it, and then I started growing for my wedding. I said you know the plan person I don't. Don't grow things, or I sure hope I do 'cause I have sticks years education of eight four to learn grow things, and so I decided I'm GonNa grow flowers from my wedding, and so I did that and got all the way sucked into growing flowers, and not only just making pretty things out of them, and so I've been riding a flower farmer train now since two thousand sixteen, and it's really awesome to be a grower in an extension agent, because as flower farming has really. Bloomed. I'm saying that Pun intended, but it's bloom. Does throughout Boyle County in this area around here? People are really starting to get into it. It's been fun to share that experience as an educator like Oh. Yeah, the we the Bermuda grass to so bad this year or yeah I'm seeing problems with this insect past being able to share that with my growers and help them. Ahead of time when they might not know they have a problem yet. I'll Yeah I. Don't think I realized that you grew your own bouquet for your wedding. A lot of it. Yeah, I was the first time you grow anything. Is always up in the air? So I had a lot of it I did grow myself, but luckily I was good friends with a couple of different growers in the area and I was like. Hey, can you help me with some flowers? So but yes, there were some things that grew myself for that wedding for that wedding. My wedding and that's just kinda how it all gets kick-started. Yeah, so just out of curiosity which blames. Did you have in your okay Oh. Gosh I had values Zina's Gladioli. I had some so mind. Okay was literally like enormous. It was a monster and would like. Break your wrist if you held it. The wrong way had grapes wild grapes, hanging off of it and blackberries and mom all about in Kentucky. Teaching About Kentucky, natives and so I love to use them in Florida design at rattlesnake master milkweed I mean if I could find it. I thought it was pretty. I shoved it into a bouquet. It's like you WANNA. Make sure everything that you've grown is in that Yes, and it took. It took like two hands to hold. It was a big in. Eleven Alexis. You're a lot like may in that then that aspect. Will. I really enjoyed you telling us a little bit about yourself and the listeners were really enjoy that, too, but the reason I had to come on the senten- gardening podcast with me is that this is a interesting for us? It's a American grown cut flower month, and just out of curiosity to ask you because like you, said your educator as an extension agent and also flower broher. Why do you feel like this month is so important for our cut flower growers, and why should people support local cut flower, farms and farmers in? In the area. Yes, so what a lot of people don't know is that this is actually like Congress to dictate that it was can grow flowers month and the bit July, and so the biggest reason for that across the US is because every single state. Even Alaska has cut flower production harvesting going on right now, so in the last harvesting peonies, which in Kentucky depending on where you are in the state, but we're pretty much in. That may may get an in June, depending how hot we got how early but to think that. Was the start of peony season in Alaska is a pretty cool thing, so every one of our fifty states has flowers that can be harvested right now, which is why Congress made it American ground fires months in Kentucky or in. He's here. we really we really have a great climate for growing a lot of different things in Kentucky, but especially flowers, because we have some cooler time in the spring as well as in the fall are winners are not usually really really bad, or at least they haven't been the past few years. Years of, but we do get a lot that cool season that we need. And then we get nice hot summer, so we can grow a lot of crops here in Kentucky that we get the best of both worlds I think that's something that you know in veggies and fruit as you know, we do as well, but it's neat and flowers. It's really nice visual representation of all the different all the different seasons that we can hit so as far as why people should support local cut flower growers. Same reason we support our. Our local veggie beef whatever a girl was around. It's it's been supporting your local economy. Your flower growers are huge for beneficial insects in bees and things like that, so a lot of flower growers also our beekeepers right because they're. They're kind of feeding each other. That are a little bit, and so they're really great for a lot of our local populations, and both native and our honeybees, as well as something that you said earlier bring so much joy to people and being able to buy locally really supports the economy and then. Then, we're not shipping in flowers from Ecuador and Colombia Holland get much fresher stuff right when you go to the farmer's market or wherever you go to get local stuff. Yeah, I love that aspect of being both support local farms, and like you said with veggies and other mate grow or make producers in the area. You know you can get a nice election throughout the seasons and I feel like sometimes people don't always think of flower farmers instantly they might go to the Jesus the mates and other commodity type things but with. Cut Flower production I feel like it's become pretty popular Nihal more than say maybe ten years ago. Do you think there's a a movement or a reason behind that? I think there's a couple of different reasons one I think is of course you know there's a lot of people wanting to kind of return to the land, so to speak great like as a millennial like. Let's return to the land but there's people who are. Are Wanting, they're also the versa. Affi- right, so we told people get into farming in whatever type of farming is and their meetings to diversify to improve populations in diseases in their needing a rotational crop. That's also something that is high value, right? They can do something with and so flowers are really great example of that and being able to rotate through, and still make money off of your could be considered a cover crop. Citing, that's one reason as we start to diversify, the other reason is cut. Flowers can be grown in a very small scale right, so you can pack a lot of flowers into a space and produce a Lotta blooms on a really tiny. There's a facebook page called urban micro flower growers and they're you know you kind of. If you looked at the price, you would say they're like a commercial. Producer and then when you find out, they're producing on. You know less than a quarter of an acre. It's always really amazing what you can crank out so I think that has a lot to do with it and people thinking local right like they're like people are starting to think about where things come from, so it's not just where my food comes from, but now that we. We kind of have that in our brain. It's important to know where your food comes from I think it's starting to spread to other aspects. Support your local artists support. Get local honey, all these different things and flowers I think just kind of fall. Right into that. Yeah, that's a good point that you bring up. I feel like with everything else. It's probably people right mindset. Mindset in they notice more cut flower growers in their area, and they've gotten onboard with purchasing those now. I realize that not every cut flower grower is the saying. They always have some sorta unique quality to them. They might offer something a little bit differently from another cut flower growers, and you know even throughout the regions. You mentioned July, being American ground month, and you know. Know it's really hard to believe like things in Alaska Ed. Their climate is just so different from us here in Turkey. So one you if you don't mind, I describe some of the cut. Flower markets are available to the flower growers, and what they might offer to people that might be interested in purchasing more cut flowers from them. Absolutely so obviously, the first one is farmers. Farmers market that's immediately what people think when they think weird by local flowers, or how local flowers fit in you think of the farmers market, which is an awesome place ego. Get them until it is like August and it's really high, so I recommend. If you're going to go to the farmer's market, get flowers go early because they will allow out and be, they don't want to. To sit in the heat in the flowers don't like the heat so definitely. Go early to go to a farmer's market. The next one a lot of flower growers are getting into and I see this a lot. When large vegetable production or something when they start to add flowers in their what they already do in the scaled there used to they go in wholesale production which. which is a great way to move a lot of product? You only have to communicate with one or two people and you can move everything this season. So that's a really good thing for people who don't. If you're wanting to serve, you're thinking about growing hours. It's not necessarily something that everybody could do, but you can't push your local florist if you can't find a flower farmer. Farmer, near you or somebody, who's too close, but you know some great local, you know. Ask them to start by local flowers, and so that's one way you can get local flowers that even if you can't get to the farmer's market or something by asking for that from your Florus, another thing that people are doing just like with veggies or even on meets these days is. So bouquet shares are really awesome way every week. They go to pick up site and you grab your Book Hey. You don't have to fight farmers market crowds, and you know that you're gonNA. Get up, okay, no matter what 'cause you pay up front and that's really helpful for the farmer, whether it's veggies or flowers, or whatever you pay all the way up front, you don't have to worry about carrying money around you just show up on your day and you get your flowers and their fresh and your priority for that farmer, and then like I do I've done weddings events like I've said before so a lot of fire farmers are doing. Using their local flowers and with help from local growers. Can have really nice wedding. That's not necessarily wildflowers. A lot of people think oh. Flower farmers wildflowers while they I can promise you. We grow the same things that you're florist wants to buy so roses peonies. Dahlia's all of those beautiful things vernacular, but we're more seasonal right so just like you can't get asparagus from a local farmer in August, you can't get your renown. Farmer in Kentucky in August now we can buy peonies from. Which I guess is better than Ecuador, but Still, it's not necessarily as local and then restaurants have become a big one, so of course with co vigil people not really going into restaurants is a little bit different, but I know some flower farmers that provide flowers for the table of restaurants, and that's also a good way to be able to see, and it's not a farmer in the area. I don't like I. I realized that some of the cut flower growers were doing that in the like, actually doing their bouquets in restaurants. So that's pretty Market ahead heard about do forms. Let you come onto the farm at some times at the season. Oh, yeah, so you pick! That's totally forgot about that so a lot of farmers like strawberries, blackberries, a lot of places do. Do a lot of forms will do picks, and so that's really fun. You know you come and you. Can you get a bucket and you bring your Brunner's with you and you fit as many flowers as you want. In that bucket for a set price. There's a lot of different ways to do it. Just like a Pumpkin Patch, but you know it's not just. Just one week out of the year, so you get to do and pick whatever your heart desires, whatever you think is beautiful, and then you get to go home and make something pretty based on what you love, and so that's a really fun way a not all forms do that and others. You know some liability issues of course with that and their special insurance. Insurance farmers take out till offer you picks, but that's a really cool. I really fun way to take the family out and see things action and I really feel like right now. Some people are not going too far. You know they're not going far away right now. So that might be an experience that your family can have into it. You pick up our form. Form, right, it's outside. You can stay away from people you know and a lot of farmers I know that are doing. You picks right. Now are being very careful. You know if they have five acres free to walk around. They're only going to allow enough people there where you can be spread out a really well in that open air type of situation Elia absolutely. Absolutely. It's kind of a plus it especially. If you have some reservations about going out right now now to transition a little bit, you know we mentioned you being a cut flower growers sales, and I like I mentioned, but you actually ran wild rings, and so you do have the unique aspect that you you know not only at educator, but you do have grower. Grower experienced. So what was the biggest challenge that you faced Gonen to cut flower production? Like you say you probably had a reason behind it ours because you're going to have a gorgeous. Boakye bring wedding. But like when you get into something, you know what challenges are being vice, especially with growing cut flowers sure I. Think I think it's probably the same recommendation on. No matter what you're growing if you're going into business, but it's always and people are gonNA to lash. That's nothing new, and I say this, but don't go too big too fast, so one of the key things with flower farming like I mentioned earlier you can do so much with so little much much different than a lot of our produce and definitely different than any animal that you might be producing. You know even to grow tomatoes a lot of space in the amount of space. Space I can fit tomato plants, and I can fit probably double some the mountains of flowers, or more depending on what it is in that same space for tomato, so don't go too big too fast, and there's no reason to because you can really get your feet wet and really practice the whole our farming gig without investing too much money, because you say small and you do what you can and other recommendation I tell people is what are your? What do you have? Do, you have access to land. You have money. Do you have time a lot of farmers in general work outside jobs, and so what we lack is time, but we might have extra money to invest, so we're GONNA. Invest in things that make our lives easier that we can spend less time in the garden, so things like black plastics while the we'd recommend. Most of the kind of things that are GonNa really make you see the first year second year third year, and you might Kinda know what you're doing by year five and this is talking from the masters. Degree and implants science I just now, Kinda feel like I know what I'm doing. And then Mother Nature turns around. Slap show around a little bit and your own right. I actually go in. And you feel that way. You are not alone for sure. Well like you say you know like when you really do. Get into something you know. There's different obstacles and challenges in problems faced with in. It's like you Kinda have to put on your big girl paintings and try to figure it out and no one good thing I feel like right now. Is that flower farmers really do want to see other folks get into the business if they really do have an interest an unaided in it. Community I. Think Amongst far farmers, because I think we all are under the understanding. There's enough to go round, so there's no need to compete. Let's help each other and like hey, you grow this really well I grow this other thing really wild. Let's work together on this, and that's such an awesome thing to have a community like that a yeah, a yeah, now at one of the tell you. I looked at your instagram account the other day, and you put on here which I find was. Very picture behind this. That's what caught my, but you said being a farmer florist is like being in the center brain of a circus spinning a hundred flights by station fan. So what exactly likes that thing? Yeah yeah, that's how I feel like a ringmaster and. The clown sometimes I'm just the ringmaster and I'm just trying to keep all of the plates spinning, so being a farmer is hard right. We all kind of inherently know that whether you've ever farmed or not being farmers heart, it's sweaty. It's dirty. You know you're just tired all the time being a floor. Just a floor is hard. You are has to be a good people person you have to. To be very organized keeping records making sure that you're getting the right color you know and doing things correctly and budgeting really well. There's very little margin in forestry, and then we're like well. Let's take this really hard sweaty job. Combine it with this literally people person, intense record keeping job, and let's push together. We'll be farmer, Florus, right, and so that's where you're hundred plates. Come in because. Because not only do you have to be the person who leads you have to be the person who harvest you also need to be your for most of us who are too small to have a full marketing team. Your your marketing team. You're putting together all your emails. You're making all those bouquets. Oh, by the way you have aphids. Make sure you deal with that and while you're dealing with. With your aphids, your computer website is going to crash so no now. You can't sell the bouquets that you have worked so hard to be able to put together and it just kind of spirals all the time. There's always a different plate going my always think I'm dropping. Some and I'm just like well. We'll just throw all the broken pieces onto another thing and I'll try and spend those. It's you are a hundred different people, and it's all small business is like that, but when you combine this dirty sweaty outside work with this team marketing side, they're very opposite people, and so we're kind of smashed together to create one job. I'll yeah well NFL like an extension, even know we wear a lot of different hats in its thank type concept with cut flower growers, especially, maybe in the beginning, and then as you start to kind of get the patterns and the flow of things down than it probably evolved, but like you said your what five years into it on. You're starting to feel better about it. Yeah, I'm in my fifth season in for the first time I kind of feel like I. Know what I'm doing like feel fairly confident in. That's changes from day to day. Because some days I'm like I have no idea was. You know. Lou. You know right, right? But. You kinda get that. Feel like you said kind of scheduling, and you get a flow down and mother. Nature will still throw things at you. She always does remember she will always win. Don't be a set to when she beats you because she always. Yeah, but you just Kinda have to go with the flow and year five. You start to find that flow is absolutely so don't give it. Keep on going. Just pick yourself kind yourself off now. Let's get back to Anisimov this about July. Being American grown cut flower meant you and I have worked with the Kentucky. Hort council and we're doing something special for July here in Kentucky once you tell people more about that incentive that we're doing for our growers. Yes, so you know we you and I and Kentucky checkouts or kind of? All talked and we realize that a lot of cut flower growers would be a little bit I. Don't WanNa say left out there, just so new. There's so many new farmers, and there's just an influx in. There's not been good representation because this whole thing is new to the state of Kentucky Right and lately, so we were like okay. Well. What do we do we and and well, we kind of started talking about this at the end of towards the end of June in hit us that. Kentucky, no, the American ground fires month was in July, and so we're like. Let's feature all these cool farms like let's a get to know them. Be them feel like they're part of Kentucky horticulture, his flower growing is a horticulture enterprise. It makes money. and. Let's let's showcase them. Let's tell people about like. Hey, there are local flowers and so Kentucky Horticulture Council has been featuring a flower farmer for some room somewhere in the state of Kentucky. We've gone all the way from East West. North South, so every day they featured at least one, if not two farms, which is awesome. Is that means that we're getting a lot of new farms that are coming onto the? The scene in have things that are available to the public, and so that's been really exciting to see, and I've been around for five plus years an agent so I thought I knew everybody and I'm seeing all kinds of new farms popping up and it's really exciting because I said that community is so strong. I think with flower farmers, and so it's nice to be able to get more people on board. Board to to the community, yeah I was looking at a couple of the nines, and like I think I'm more familiar with the ones right around us here in Bowling Green, but like you said I knew of you, but I really didn't know about some. Probably, that's in your neck of the woods, so to speak, and I feel like with cut flower growers when they noticed several of those kind of occurring on. On the Horton Councils page facebook page then they were like man. I might need to check them out because that's pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, it's neat to see what other people are doing. You know throughout the state or even just like the county over your army, and that's such a cool thing. They're never thought about that, and you can trade secrets, not secrets, but how you get that or what trump did. Did you use and I wish my is look that good, and and it's such a cool thing to be able to do with each other. Yeah, yeah, well I'm really glad that we were able to work on that project together and I guess the last question I wanNA. Ask you today is about. Where can people get more information about cut flower growers here in Kentucky Maybe, they I wanNA. Go visit their arm. Arm Or side I just want to know how to get a hold of somebody that has a subscription bouquet, and then what's the best way to help? Support those local our former. Yeah, so part of what we we had worked on where this map of Kentucky flower growers than I think it's going to launch their end-july if it hasn't launched already, but definitely should be available to enter July with city. City where you're where a flower farm is located, you can just pull the map I've seen a little preview of it, and it's got little flowers all over it and you click one that might be close to where you're at, and it gives the farm name, any website or website information as well as contact information like an email address, or however they prefer to be contacted that so exciting that flower farmers are. are able to be represented this way for the first time in the state of Kentucky and people are going to be easily able to find the our farmer closest to them and I think that's so exciting, but if he can't wait until the July which I don't blame you, because give me all the flowers right. I grow flowers and I'm still like I need them all. Give them all to meet right. And, so going on the Kentucky Horticulture Councils Instagram and facebook where they've been posting those everyday updates on flower farms. You can probably find when close you I know by now. They've posted someone from all the corners of the state I think into. That's probably a good way you know. If you really want to jump the gun to do it that way, you can always email the horticulture council and be like Hey I'm looking for someone in this area and we have that or she cindy. The court council has a good list of that or call your local extension office right so of course where my extension agent hat Give extension agent, a call and see if there's anybody out there, you can support small bid. All small businesses really appreciate those little. A twenty dollar bouquet the purchase of. Okay means the world to someone in when you grown something from seed, and created something beautiful that people love it is. There's no other sense of satisfaction and I've I've found, I guess if you have a child, Kristen that you know you grew this child and you re producing this beautiful thing that would probably be the only comparison but I don't have a kid, so flowers are my children right now and I can tell you it is one of those satisfying things when people just their eyes light up, and as a small business grower I mean it's it means the world to me. You know in to all of us. US when somebody buys something that you worked really hard for yeah, and it's like you said you're able to see it in its infancy, and then go all the white throughout the growing season in an to see it when it's ready for harvest. That's probably does bring a big smile to your face I think I saw some of your pictures in Louisiana. This is in season right now. It S yes, probably my favorite summer. Flowers Lizzy emphas-. I was GONNA ask you. Do you have a favorite or is Louisiana's I would sit as a favorite per season, but I think I changed my mind every time I think. Think if I had to pick one only flour and this is hard, it's like. Are you gonNA. Pick your favorite kid I. Don't know, but I think gladiolas, which everybody's GonNa, ooh, funeral, foul flower, but Gladiolas, reminding of my grandmother and I think that's something special. Just like food can remind you of a person or a place in your life. I think a flower can really remind you of a feeling or cursing, and I remember seeing them growing at her house, and how beautiful they were so I go them if I sell them, but I grow them because they make my heart happy. and I think that's. That's always grow things that make you happy in. Hopefully they make other people happy to yeah. I think that's probably the tight Tom. Message for today's episode is definitely grow you in in what brings you joy, and especially for for this being an American ground kept our met. We probably want everybody to check out this map and we're going to put that in the show notes that the end, and then also you know time to visit your farmers, market or maybe purchase something from your local fire arm. Awesome, thankful I. Really Appreciate You being on the shadow day. Yeah, it was my pleasure. Thanks for chatting with me. Out that you enjoyed our discussion today on how to support local cut flower growers. If you would like to learn more and also get involved with the American cut flowers month, and what we're doing right here in Kentucky, you can join us on the facebook page at Keiwa. Council also on Instagram at K, Y horticulture, and even on twitter at k y horticulture, and you can learn more about cutler growers all throughout the State of Kentucky, you can also learn what niche markets that they have available, and then also how you can even purchase from your local flower grower as well now if you'd like to check out our former florist flower math that Alexis was talking about. I'm also going to post that link in our show notes so. So if you'd like to view, the show notes for episode eight on supporting local flower farmers visit me on the blog at Warren County agriculture. You can go to our website. Eight Warren County Agriculture, Dot Com as always thanks for listening to the Sunshine Gardening podcast to stay up to date on all the latest episodes. Make sure to hit the subscribe button wherever you get your podcast and gardeners remember to keep on digging into gardening. Remember to add a little sunshine. 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GenG's Jordan Sherman on Worlds, College Esports and Brand Partnership
"Hello Ed welcome into another episode of the East Sports Network podcast in partnership with Reuters as always I'm your hosmer mid dreams and today were talking Gee to do that I have Jordan Sherman the head of revenue. Operations for the League E. Sports, organizations Jordan how're you doing? I'm are you I've do it pretty well I do a pretty well, I figure all of our listeners know about gingy but for those unfamiliar gingy was, what's what are the top legacies and South Korea? Say it still is, but they were competing under the Dave Samsung. Galaxy would they would to world championships There consistently among the favorites at this year, they qualified for worlds what to get congrats by the way. Thank you our whole org is really excited. I'm sure. I'm sure I'll be ready for you guys to at least at the group stage. Lately, the organizations dominated G with the or wooded pudgy invitational at twenty eight at the Pudgy Global Championship twenty feet in addition to be top-flight eastwards or they're also focused on a wide array of really awesome initiatives. They have an all female fourteen powered by Bumble, which includes Tina raise the winner of the day tournament at twitch con in addition to the bumble partnership or the best brand partnerships. At least from my perspective, they also have deals with Puma mercedes-benz McDonald's. A lot more and on the college side, they have partnered with the University of Kentucky and Eastern Michigan University. Then there's also the gingy foundation an organization trying to empower the next generation of eastwards sports leaders with a focus on inclusion diversity in academic excellence, they had the Gen ten ten scholarship recipients backed by gingy with that focus in mind. For Jordan personally he spent a lot of time in the traditional sportsworld with years at the MLB and two at the Los. Angeles Clippers before moving to gingy in two thousand eighteen on the show to be talking about junkies initiatives the goals of the organization how the team is built such a strong list of brand partners and wouldn't eastwards organization brings to a college program. So Jordan, let me know did I Miss Anything That was really excellent. I know you had prepared. So that's great. I've been familiar. I think I've covered a lot of that over the years I wrote about the bubble at Fort I interviewed you about the Puma? Partnership. I was at the twitch guy when Tina raise once I've picked up all this over the over time for Sherp yet and we And we met at Oregon of course. Yay. Alma Mater, which is just a quick way to. Get into my good graces and you and you visited receive. Oregon. You talked to those orchid students that was a really fun time and that's what we I actually got. Meet you in person which was really awesome. that panel was that I was you evil geniuses and team liquid that totally high-powered at the University of Oregon and made me so jealous because when I was a kid I, was there three years ago there was no chance anything like that would have ever existed. So I'm glad my my old school is finally getting with the times and bringing students some awesome resources like that. Yeah and I remember you asked I don't remember what you asked the U s a very high level in-depth question. I was like, who are you was like your? Student You must be journal. For like high level questions, you know what it was as I saw your background in the MLB and it was right after the Astros cheating scandal had come out at I asked Sports. Damage Control looks like for for a scandal like that, and you know we saw the mobile with their hair on fire does like is prepared for some sort of scandal this at our kite AC- that see us go with a pretty big wide-raging match-fixing deal. The answer you guys will gave was no probably not and that seems pretty accurate. But yeah. That's a that's a question. The Likud guy just shook his head. I can't remember who was. Using their head of apparel and merchandise, but I can't remember his name right now but he was just like shaggy is that. Those are really fun event. I'm so glad that happened. So. Let's talk a little bit about world's the world's draw just come out JEN. Gee, that's the the game. This organization has been built on had so much success over time you guys group C with fanatic and team Solo mid plus one additional qualifier from plan. How are you feeling about? That? Feels like a pretty good group. Yet. Even dating back to last year, I kinda see US getting two worlds on second full year recap on terms of like what are teen did to restructure the roster we worked on a campaign last year where when we sign ruler, we did a fan is actually sponsored by costs which is on by Ab but wiser incorrect and we did this event where we signed ruler and we wanted to make a big deal out of him pass coming back to the team understanding gingy values. Having ruler helpless recruits in the best players in the world s players our structure we're looking to do. We we looked at it as kind of a very like. Miami he got like dwayne Wade Lebron. Buick thought of it like in that context, let's let's actually like throw in event the decision and really help people see what worganization gingy as so it's been really cool to see how teams done improves throughout the year. And then you know it was really like up down thing for us like we had an opportunity to get in a few times three Cetera two-day CNN and the third opportunity for us to win the gauntlet event. In order to get in I thought just spoke to the press appearance of our team roster in our work is a whole on Tanna battle back from Nancy time DC Churchill Sports. East for once the ball starts going against you like the brakes ample your way. You can almost feel like that's just too big of a mountain to climb in. You can get in your head. You can be a little bit mental about it. And I. Just think it was so cool that the players are able to accept the setbacks at they had instill get into worlds. And now that we're in kind of optimistic that like we're going to play with swag, we're going to be able to play like our game not tense up because were just really happy to be a part of it into get into it and for us I feel like our was getting to where else in the rest of this is kind of like house money in a sense. So I'm really optimistic to see the team's performance in what they can do. Nadda. We accomplish this goal in so much is already in our rear view. There's definitely something to be said for getting in just having no hurdles. Okay. We're here. Let's do whatever we can and you know not just necessarily happy to be there. But having you know like you said, it's house money. Everything's great. You guys are in the group stages. Fantastic. You get outta groups. That's amazing. So everything you do is like this is awesome at i. feel like you guys got a good shot in that in that group you know it's there's no bad deeds worlds, of course but you did avoid for what group without an LP lt which feels like probably. A helpful thing and again in fanatic slouches by eighty means but. I feel good. I feel good. will allow them boy don't be like the group of Death that in my opinion, it's like. The World Championships Latch. Teams in the world owes like twelve well fields. Like we're not glad like your local schools, these are like the best teams in the world. So it's kind of like one of those things like you play, you gotta play anything alive is not matchups too. So I, kind of my thought process in the group stage was like let's get to it. You know it's going to we're going to get her we're GONNA get down. On super excited world has always just the most fun and right Games really knows how to throw a vet like that. That you're gonNA. Do this year who it's going to be big. It's going to be big. We've already seen like. The L. E. C., break the record for their their Ama with like eight, hundred thousand peaking at almost a million and then last year was what the? Had this number recently, it was like three million. Or something for top Ama. You looking at right now. I. Don't know. I just was talking about this with somebody right now and I don't want to put a bad start up there. While I, guess I'm wondering like you think. If. You will stands. This is records twenty, one point eight, nine average men audience what. Right on. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds yeah. I need to need to talk to David David. The head communications for for Ryan and get better details on. How all of that is calculated over the entire spank have also seen the number three million put out there but I I don't know I just need to get more details. The ultimately going to be as could be massive it's going to be the biggest. Ever, appreciate worlds for the last four years has broken the record of most viewers Ford event. So I think at this point, it's It's a bold take to say they're not going to break the record. I agree, I think it's going to be big to hopefully the biggest ever. and. It's it's all the teams. You would probably expect the teams. I'm a little less familiar with not the ones you know fun plus didn't quite make it in this year but you've got GT's sports. tsn. Got Fanatic. No cloud nine. But. You've got rogue gingy fly Cuesta sneaks in there and so I and damn one JD game ear both really big over in a career and China respectively. So I think there's a lot of the star power people are going to be looking for. Especially if we get some of those regional matchups that people love to see later in the tournament something like you know whenever it's a career vs Europe or China Verses L. Or. Anything like that always seems to drive just pretty insane viewership consistently. But anyways before we just talk about world for thirty minutes which I absolutely do. Let's talk about some of the awesome things jetties doing especially in the college world, we launched the colleges for Quick de all be publishing this episode on the Eastwards Network Veep, but also on that colleges for its feet because it's a space that we really want to dive a lot. More into as we met while, you were talking to my Alma Mater the University of Michigan Junkies a lot of work in colleges sense that partner with the University of Kentucky Partnering With Eastern Michigan University, what is Jen Gee doing with those partnerships? Can you dive in a little bit about what that partnership means in what gingy is bringing to a sports program like that? Shirt so the were looking at it is a lot of universities are building up their sports programs of that's really good. A lot of them are doing it really geared toward competitive teams and trying to figure out. Okay. How do we figure out a schedule Rick get the best players for university them on tournaments stage and we think that's interesting unique. Why? Our thought processes that League of legends like the World Championships is always going to be bigger than maybe like an NCAA championship and maybe that grows over time But when you see the structures Ernie place in the way. Are the audience is already kind of looking at this stuff. There's really a strikes you the best of the best in we're not a hundred percent sure of college football's going to be the same colleges for. So what our philosophy is is we help universities use gaming in east sports to recruit students to their school to retain them is part of school in into also encourage alumni to get reinvested in the school and so in doing that or basic concept is. You want to focus on casual gamers, gaming community and not just a small segment of the ultracompetitive. That might represent the university in tournament. So a lot of the activation. Is Okay. How can we actually do something that helps a highschool suit and understand what a college sports program is or how to become career opportunities, academic pathways on campus events or ritual events for current students to feel. I really liked the school that I'm at I feel part of a larger community there's a gaming place. For me where I could meet other Gamers, make friends but I don't necessarily have to make e sports my life goal I can continue doing whatever i WanNa do journalism entrepreneurship, medicine, history, law, etc.. So the way, for example, what we've done I think something's really interesting with Michigan University. They have a very large Super Smash Club just like every other university has and we talked to them in rallies WanNa. Get back to the school they WANNA be involved. So every other Thursday, which which broadcasts were eastern Michigan students can actually play with and against high school students from across the country and it's been really cool. We have over one hundred high schools that have signed up to participate. We have students from almost all fifty states participating and they're signing up in their they're playing alongside of high school kids and these college students in what we're showing them is number one eastern Michigan. Values the sports community number two. If you decide to go eastern, Michigan, you're hopefully to know other people and make friends who are also high school kids like yourself because you've been seen every Thursday through these events and number three got to get a feel for what the school is about because you already know people are smash flow. So if you. Think about it. especially with Kobe, you can't go for be able to go to actually visit campus. You may not be able to offer welcoming some cases class. So now what we've done is kind of create this virtual experience for when you show up the first day, you already know people you know people they played with high school annual people. Who are in college or copiers older than you have been involved program so I would say for a lot of people like remember welcoming orientation. circle people in your taller in your dorm room. It's super, awkward I WANNA use. Not that doubt. And for the schools, it's great. Welcome week was was incredibly awkward. I just remember that it'd be like this okay. I gotTa make my friends now right down and I was like begging friends. Fault. Isn't you're? Supposed to do dads. If you're in a foreign place, you've never been before you never let your parents most likely. Like you don't know anything is you don't know where to go and then like everyone's trying to make friends, you do it within two days. It feels like there's so much pressure net. That's why I think students. End Up retreating to their dorm room or transferring not having great experiences in college was it's too hard. It's too much. So if we can actually use gaming as a way for people to kind of make friends in be sold sean kind of feel valued if you like have a community campus, Dan we've done really good for the students for university in anything of gaming sports that light. You see that it's much more well rounded in Defer Competitive Gaming? Definitely I made my lives by secret weapon to making Frederick. Gamecube opened the door room throw the Super Smash Pros like. Just a character select screen and wait for somebody to come by. So we by roommates quickly. Now, one of my all time best Fresno. Fred. Rauch out there ause we just played Super Smash Rose Malay for hours upon hours read freshman that we started living together software judy year. Until we only people we can play that gave up the campus felt like was was US Abbas, fetch a smash club at the time, but we totally totally would have been members, but it's Gave me brings people together. It creates friendships at away. That is off the difficult to do and I love that that focus on casual gaming. I. Think a lot more people need to focus on. Hey, what are the great parts of gaming we're seeing that was really popular games lately who seeing the rise of among us and see is a fall is has made me feel like people are really gravitating to more casual fun. Interactive Gaming Experiences, and I love to see that that's something that we can have more of you know I'm also grinded rocket league whatever I can but having fun casual gaming experiences is just a better. Better vibe for be personally sometimes. The competitive such as what show by Fred said I love to see that eastwards organizations are recognizing that and try to create more initiatives around that aspects. Yet party, I came out Nelson. Okay This is kind of silly like I I don't get it like I've never really played games like once at Sockeye take off I was like. Oh, this is all bugler GONNA socialize. Like this is what's going to be. In people's homes when their friends over, you know it's like the that's how people adaptive a fun casual even like now, the fog is an example, the disraeli example. Which I put a wife like. It's gross. Game. To play. With my girlfriend at. Each each other's throats. Great. We laugh about. Too serious. But you know it's fun like I think that stuff is so cool. That you could that you can do with someone in. Good communication skill. So maybe Well we'll have three stars at love her to death, but she what's Borscht like more we're going to give We did it. We beat the goal it. It's. Got A maximize potential out but every single dive A. She's not in other thing she said to announce gate. For schools is. I think a lot of schools think like okay. We need a whole new eastward strategy and we need to do Xyz in higher all these people in we try to tell schools you really WanNa. Build from your strengths and you WanNa, do something that is already a reflection of your university. So for example. The Penn relays was an event that university Pennsylvania's hundred, twenty six years happens on it Franken field, which is their football stadium on campus like high school runners in college runners live dance every year. So we're GONNA do like an east sports event I. Dare Because GonNa Tracking you run your mile on. Another deal for few hours. So he figured set in east. But then when I got cancelled movie did was is we created in Japan re actually rebuilt the football stadium within my crafts and created these relay races where people could actually take Democrat characters sign up with friends and compete in different heat. So just like a track race high school boys has girls has mixed cowboys you know Cetera and you could compete against other high schools in other colleges in minecraft in a recreated Henry's environment that you took some liberties like there was snow and ice and fire like funding like that. They don't really have attract. But all of a sudden when did was is engaged hand digital extension to their track race, which was happened to be over century or in allowed people were planning on being in Philadelphia that we couldn't make out the to participate I. Have a global audience. It gives a new element promoter partners in sponsors, Wade media in the temple on franchise built from the university Now, that's something that we're hoping to be working with them after years and years to come because it's going to be part of the fabric of what that event is. So I. Think when universities who are maybe struggling to get his own tonight insurance worth their time if you think okay, going help us get US students. Existing students have a better experience not transfer. We can do it in a way where we could take our existing events in just kind of. Transport them in fun ways to the gaming community name really starts kind of seeing how pieces fit together why gaming should be important to law schools? Absolutely it also creates opportunities for people who might not feel a connection to their university that you've sort of alluded to this where you know maybe these people who play video games in their dorm room and giving them the opportunity to have a club that fits their interest and gets them out, gets them on campus at the center of campus gets them representing if they're playing for their clubs representing their schools colors. Creates a level of connection. There's been plenty of studies published that shows that feeling connected to your university increases people's academic success. Once your what's your part of it? There s really what universities want. They want their students to be connected. They want them to want to come back to school to try their hardest in school, and so it feels like having those clubs that reach people where they're at. Is Really impactful for just increasing academic output at also just student happiness. Yeah I. Mean that gets in the third pillar of what we're trying to build with alumni because you know we have a lot. On mostly on the long people graduated from zero to ten to fifteen years ago who landed exactly what you said. I love Super Smash. Play Games with my friends but there wasn't a smash community Eric Campus. There's a lot of people like you who wants to be more involved with their university, but don't have great inroads to do so and they don't harbour any ill will university in have this. Time he bought actually very understanding of that. Zo things that were really workout alumni league team get togethers. Rudini schedules or people know where they have to be Wednesday play of people from their school reconnect because. Really, the wasteful is usually like. Football basketball homecoming in maybe at ten. All Does a lot of people age our they move away. They just decide like an kind too old for that any longer. But now we do something that's specifically designed for young alumni that technology that uses. The gaming community to bring that together now graded even better asset for these universities where they can always connect with alumni and then when on scientists the oiler. Maybe, further, along in their careers are in positions of power at really interesting unique companies that are gonNA shape have things are going. They at least have hopefully, this point would have in decades long of connection to those students through gaming. And that's the roadmap. For so you think of it like, okay. You're gaining experience university could start your ninth grade go. All the way through to. Your kids go that school. I love that I love creating that through line is for sure to alumni. I'm a little salty that that. Doesn't didn't have things while I was a kid but I also understand that you know that's not that wasn't realistic for them and I'm just happy that they have the now in the current students have those sports opportunities. So yeah, it's I feel like alumni sort of understanding the fact that, hey, that just was never going to be effect that was thank anywhere else and you know now five ten years the lied if she still have eastwards program twenty twenty-five. That might actually people would be like, wow, really don't have what do this I might have to go to a different university. So feels like we're reaching a point where I it's going to be pretty common that you least have some sort of eastwards infrastructure. Yeah I think it a unique window right now. But that that Windows GonNa close because I think you're right like if someone tries come opposition five or six years even two or three, it's kind. I. Got Myself somewhere else you know it's like when your mom joins facebook. To. move on it's like I. Guess we're moving to the next actually think that gets into something else. I want to talk about which I think that same window exists for brand partners right now, people are pretty welcoming of major brands getting into East sports as long as they show an approach to eastward see Puma McDonald's Mercedes. In the legend's we've seen mastercard and be welcomed pretty readily, and it feels like there's a window for brands. If they are either one of the first in their sector or they come in and they do some really cool content, these words community is willing to accept them, and eventually we reach a point of Brad numbness that we have in traditional sports. Where at a certain point there's just so many sponsors that it's just a a commonplace thing. I feel like there's a window right now you have worked with so many different brands and brought in a lot of brands and had a hand in bringing all these birds. How do you see the brand sponsorship in eastwards evolving? Do you think we've reached that point international sports were just like Oh yeah. Every organization has you know fifteen brands their partner with and maybe lose a little bit of its luster right now it feels like these these activists have still a lot of power behind him. For sure a couple of things. I. Think. I think you're definitely right in declamation one shutout brands all time. We're at this unique point where they are entry into their space into the game space brings credibility to it. They're actually going to welcome. And they're gonNA be welcome more so than that would be potentially going into a traditional sports an. In sports ambient at the clippers. and. I say fans there really cared about like the team in the team wedding. Niece or it's kind of like because the community is also involved in building up the street. There's kind of unique excitement that happened would brand partners entered the space if in Zaveri Big if? They're able to do. So in a way, that's that brings value to the gamers and doesn't take away. So, when I wrote I less than. One of our early deals, Kinda ready to press release for it, and I was planning in my notes taught me a lot about the gaming demographic the age of the people and how to reach them at ads. With what it's like in terms of how much time they spend Yadda Yadda. All those like technical bullet points and the climate ripped it up until he was trash and they said, we're not entering the. Because love is demographics not trying to record China make the gaming experience better with our products. That's that's the story we want, and that was really eye-opening because what I kinda saw was like. Brand, to go into Kinda thinking about who the people are are going into the wrong viewpoint, the should be going into it by saying, Hey, how can we do something? That's GONNA be really cool for this market and make it feel like Our entry has made it better. And that should be really interesting challenge in a fun challenge for both brands anthropomorphic Ganji in our in our other colleagues, other places. That your bubble came in and really put a lot of weight behinds women gators by sponsoring all four nineteen went to content creators, streamers, women who are arise. That actually gave a lot of credit validation to that Houma was like one of the early traditional sports, Frantic Honda teammates each sports south to the peril is world's Jersey people really to that that story too because that wasn't brand coming envy like we see you as sports gamers were actually creative errol and do things that you might see Churchill spots. We're going to do with the same. Gusto and fire that we do. People really. Mercedes do time Deborah experiential. That's players. That was really cool. 'cause talk about earlier by we did the signing fans fans the opportunity to meet with ruler and ask questions. Get. This really personal experience so I think every time you look at it if you're able to do something in a way that translates to value. Can Be super successful and get a ton of mileage. The campaigns there may be a fall flat I think you see that they. Some cases they took away lab. Named away guy and then I, think that's how we always think about it on our side. What does this entry into this space means? And how can we make it better buddy. Absolutely. It's. It's important. Factor is, hey, we gotta be gotta be differ. We got to be added figs as we've seen with the twitch announcement of doing mid roll ads sort of forced mid roll ads. Gamers are not totally receptive to all advertising It's just when it comes in and the brand like you said, eastwards organizations have a sort of unique value because the is seen as directly supporting. The players and the the bread that they're a fan of but especially, the players where Hedo contracts aren't nearly as big as they are traditional sports sort of Brad like a McDonald's or a bumble comes in and they split their team like the female fourteen when g it's like Oh. Okay. I like those people and I'm glad that they know have a big brand partner who's going to help them. Have money like they're gonNA literally have a direct line there. That's just not how it existed traditional sports while that's what he's over does go to the players. It's just sort of seat as okay. The players get a bunch waiting to get the meteorites deals the ticket sales like. The players though issues with buddy. It Traditional Sports eastwards. It's really good to have like the Brad's or seat as directly supporting the players at their fans of which creates a better brand. Bread fan relationship. I'm so happy for Steph curry that he got muscle Belkis apart. Hulu. Young. Knowing is wearing game people do get excited by gus individual really close connection to the service because it's also Legitimate the brands. In some cases, the teams, other teams, but in some cases, the plate, the streamers are the teams. So you had these communities that have been watching them since the beginning the root for them as favorites or. So when they see them succeed that is positive experience. Yeah. Mid Roll Suck. No one likes now. For putting it, that's like an annoyance or things with discount. Works I think there's other ways of getting all the in states where you're not just buying video where you're actually more added. More. Right and I'm sure twitch like is stupid. They tried to push breads towards. So the other unique ways. You, know a lot of breads are still stuck in his dotage like we buy we buy. If you money you give me fifteen seconds I put add up like that's sort of just how they operated. You know things are changing the smart Brad's are figure out how to evolve it how to connect to this gave you on. It's like bench the the brand that wants to be additive that's really key. That's what the smart breads are doing this. So I know I want to be conscious of your time and we feel like we have to talk about the judge foundation at ten first of all as a big fan of bed ted I love the hip Jed Ted. It's really cool. Tell a little bit about what did the plans were for jet and why you want to create a foundation especially to focus on diversity and inclusion it college sports. Yes. So we already had these relationships with colleges and. twenty twenty was a yearbook complete social racial rests. So we knew them needed to do something and we wanted to have. Their be up front with it. So of weeks ago, and basically is ten students a year for ten years are see scholarship John. And in order to qualify, you have to be personal caller low income or woman, and you have to be any US university in you have to make a commitment to helping the eastwards community before. So you don't have to be a player you could be we don't have the player you journalists could be interested entrepreneurship. You can be a member of the club could be something ball humidity reached. We WanNa hear what people are doing out there. That's going to help make gaming sports better at college campuses and can be a ten year commitments. Our hope is that the Though next year tenure, the raptor, and we're GONNA file students on throughout the next ten years of their lives over open for these tax classes of it. Think of it as a SNL, glass like all American class like that. You'll see them kind of go once to success these insurance business roller wherever they choose on whether gonNA, leave behind at university course. INNOVATOR place. So we're GONNA be fine helping that be creating content with them helping their mission vitamins on scholarships, and our hope is that is Kinda Korean. It's really a spiderweb, a ripple effects across his university so far we have four Foundational Partners University of Kentucky Eastern Michigan University bumble explodes banks actually extended the amount you all were GONNA be receiving scholarships for this year. The applications are open or they're closing clothes on over fifteen forget announce the winners route six giving scholarships for me give it up for this year so. We're really said buy it on Amazon hopeless missions. This is like amazing to see how what's coming in and we think it just. Our commitment to East Orchard colleges or college education growth of this industry. Through diversity and we hope for students to be the leading the charge not US nine university officials. We want the actual people living at to the once ler hoping the change of where was. Supporting a give them the tools resources any. I love that it's been student led for so Long College Games as gaming clubs that didn't have anything more than occasional meeting room and administration. It's finally getting on board giving it to the students at that focused on diversity and inclusion is so important I just today's on the. Quick, take each week published a long interview, which is what this the, but we also published Daily News hits and that includes one each week where I look at research study and what I covered today recording this on Wednesday as won't hear it until. Friday, but the what I covered with colleges for his quick day was a paper published by. A professor at North Carolina State and talk with a bunch of college eastward sears. Sports haven't brought in as many women as they had hypothesized about three years ago which. I just hope that the eastwards at the top level is very male dominated will college sports by be a great way to bring more women into the fold in that and they found that just hasn't totally been the case that hasn't played out at. So I think initiatives like this are really important because he needs to be a concrete effort to make it easier for women detriment space to make it easier for low income people to enter the space. Because right now it just hasn't totally proven to be that at so having organizations like Jen. Gee backing that having all female fortnight teams like the one sponsored by bumble and how creases that reputation and then you see. Young. Girls like Mochi in she gingy. Yes. She's gingy. He has ever been winning. For. She's a ball or fourteen year old if you guys noticed this fourteen year old. Girl in Sweden I believe a one a pretty big. Tired of bit at it's just like that representation is so cool to me I think that's We also have phase clans What's what's your name getting you walk thank you so much. Yeah E. Walk. That's She's also deaf as well, and it's just like that representation is just so awesome to see any sports and it's a lot of these sports organizations gingy particular leading the way and making sure we have that in eastwards going for and then Jen ten really making sure that exists on the college level and creating the next generation of leaders. Shout out the judges. A was just GONNA say a lot of our. Players they say. Didn't have role models who were like them growing up. So we're really to do is hopefully the janitor other initiatives in the zoom in space from. Still the hope is that people we are seeing Mulkey, for example, won't use it look weren't. Away Rahm Ray someone had died so. Tenure amendment is important to the giants. You'RE GONNA see people see these initial classes. See these initial women in. Ever seeing gaming finally realize. Okay. I can actually unacceptable. Maybe I can do this too. and. That's what we're gaming. So if caused people think while us for smell dominate. AMD look in the mirror, some chain that in be. Bingo. Chain is like spectrum of. The it's like what you do today. You may not see the results yearly, but you're you're now two years three, three ish. Now, what we do today that seem to be reflected because that's your. That's how long term process where we're going as. A love it feels like a great note to wrap up on. Jordan thanks so much for taking the time. Good luck with world coming up to give you one last chance shot out anything that you people looking at for jet G.. What's we followed a log euro personal stuff that you? tweeted out Shoutout Jaji add let people know what they should be following. Yeah, let me just say follow us the Cross also house you check me out to Edgy Sherm to G, on twitter on link. Linked in his actuary most thanks. Obama never. Want to connect with may just abby Jordan Shumur nothing. that's the best they can be out. that. Beautiful you can go to his guest page underneath this podcast on his name you'll see leaks to his linked in and. Twitter if you WANNA connect with him Jordan's a great guy doing awesome work at any sports I could talk to all day but I have to let him go eventually George. Thanks again for coming on the show is black sock with you and again good luck in world of Your Info
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I guess, is there any other news on his on his comings and goings I mean other than the way that he's endangering all the people around him with reckless abandon and it's just you know that that's pretty much. You're seeing him exposed himself to so many other people. I think the the super spreader event of the Rose Garden is going to be something that we'll be tracking much. More closely as we can just kind of pinpoint these people into whom they connected like I. think that's going to be some. You know red red thread on the board kind of thing you know Charlie with the cigarette just like right. So is here in the news here in the news here in the news here, but it will it will be legitimate like it will be necessary. Contact tracing exactly. We'll be doing it for meals and it just is extra over the top because. We have an event where people were pretending like corona buyers did not exist, but it wasn't real well. anyways. That's that's where we're at will let you know if there are any more developments in the next fifteen minutes the yet we got the Herro snarl the tyler hero snarl I don't know if DJ. Daniel if you watched a game three of watch game three of the finals. Butler. The to guard for the heat. Wins off went off. A forty points at a triple double. Didn't he? Yeah. He's definitely the I. Think the reason that they're in the finals. You know Bam people are talking a lot about Bam being their best player. But he is the new ingredient. He's the he's the guy who got added this year him and tyler hero but he's the veteran leadership got added this year and last year that didn't make the playoffs this year they are in the finals. And in it now it's not going to be a sweep. It's not going to be a it's I think it's going to be a good series. We'll see I'm I'm definitely interested. It doesn't ring the same way that like a gentleman sweep does of like the win three games lose one to give them hope and then when the when the fifth game right definitely rings of like Okay Miami here apply. Yeah because especially they're. Supposed best player Bam auto bio was out in game three still they still won. So once he's back Yeah. Well, we will see we sean, but hero snarl is the their rookie who looks like a I mean he he is a teenager I think Johnny he's A. and He after he got an and one, he walked to the free throw line and gave a snarl that was. I I don't know I. It immediately struck me as embarrassing because it looked like. It looked like my. Four year old try like practicing snarl in the mirror It just didn't. It wasn't convincing it was very self-conscious and. You know didn't come naturally but I respect it because he is. Ball. balling. I, love that L.. Yeah I. It's showy. It's fun I love the bubble right now I think it's highlighting everything. It's highlighting every player's behavior and stuff like that and you know. As short-sighted, it may be as for someone as young as tyler hero I still still love I. Still Love The showmanship. It's fun. He's Kentucky player. This is another person who went to UK University of Kentucky. and was hidden from because he he he wasn't the number one pick even though he's probably the best rookie of his class same with Devon. Booker these are guys who You know were incredible players who went in the teens I. Thank our. You know they weren't top five picks because. I have my allegiances and I'm not a huge fan of the University of Kentucky currently their current coaching. The amount of talent that went through there over the past. Fifteen years, and the fact that they have only one one title is truly astounding. Bam. Out of bio went to Kentucky also did you really? Yeah, get everybody is there's so many Kentucky guys and Anthony Davis went to Kentucky now granted he did win the title, win the title with them. He is the one example of where they actually managed to win the title but. anyways. Enough Kentucky Hey. I do love the Kentucky fans just not a fan of coach cow Pushed back movies push-back Sorry guys. You Kentucky fans who feel insulted just know that I'm having a tough day because movies pushed back. they pushed baby. Dune and Batman I mean come on what do I have to lift for. Narrow. So what's what's the latest? When was doing post to come out and when is it coming out? So Dune just got pushed back to October first of next year and Batman is also currently data for the same day so but there's a chance that Batman could be delayed as well. So says variety I think this is just you know standard fare for pretty much every movie that's being that's being you know. Shown right now or rather previewed right now while we are still in the midst of figuring out what the Hell is going on. So you know it's just it's just going to happen for everything until we have a very clear solution until we have a vaccine, I don't suspect anything to be released on time at all until we have something legit. Right. Yeah. Because tenant came out. It was supposed to be a pretty sure thing and it did not. Did Not hit the way that people expect Christopher Nolan picture to hit. But Dune just dropped a really dope trailer. So this is kind of a bummer that they're now. Were they supposed to come out one was doing supposed to come out. Dunes original release date. Is supposed to be December. Eighteenth of this year. Wow. ooh. So they pushed it back a mere ten months. He I'm Oh. Wow. Oh. No. No No. Yeah. So things are going well. generally, we we feel like we got this Kobe thing licked. As one of the president's supporters said you know we just need to make A. Vaccine out of his blood and all, and only give it to the right because because he's invincible and. So. Yeah it's GonNa it's GonNa be a while. 'til we're back to normal and even then like I don't think many people are GonNa, take the vaccine because it's become associated with trump right? So we'll see. Jay Bell. McDonald's colon baby now. Real Shit let's now I i. know we held off this long I know this is what you guys really tuned in to hear about No McDonald's of. You know the this story officially informed me many many years after you guys already knew but I'm oldest fuck. I didn't really know who J. Building was I. Think I called him Jay Glavin when I I Didn't even need rat yourself out on. Telling Myself Jay Glavin and baby? Oh. Yeah. Love it. Yeah. So Jay, Bell than McDonald's like years and years ahead of me in terms of pop culture. I did know who Travis Scott was I do listening to I think it was dough boys and they were like, who's Travis Scott? What is a Travis Scott? they got a similar young person to fill them in on what the Hatch was, but j Alvin isn't as popular as Travis, Scott Right I. mean he has a lot of record sales I would say he's definitely the most popular person than the reggae tone him and bad bunny together but but I mean, he's a huge huge artist. I would say I mean maybe not spotify numbers wise it when I put it on the exact same level but he has super super super mega hits he has thirty five million albums or three, five, million sales on album. So it's like I mean he's. Extremely popular. But I. I'm I'm excited for. Do you think maybe we get a tiny little grammy happy meal toy now do you think they'll start doing like grammy series they'll do like Travis Scott j Galvin and then who knows like Day or they'll get some other pop artists or some other people, and then just be like grammy series. like limited edition gramophones. Yeah I mean we do know that kids love award season. That, that would be huge huge with kids. Practicing their acceptance speeches. Yeah you see the clothing line that came out with the Travis Scott special though the Kravis got food. No, it was. He was selling like forty pieces of Merch that were all Cactus Jack McDonald's brandon things. Was Yes it was the food and then it was literally forty pieces of Merch that it was like, yeah. Limited quantities go after get after it and the that stuff sold out like that. Yeah the streetwear market can be. A little confusing. Agree I did love like one of his pairs of Jordan's but yeah, not. Not Enough to. Just scoop up all that all forty, the fortieth most popular. Piece, of McDonald's collaboration. All right NJ Galvin's Collab- with McDonald's is the meal he gets which is. What we looking at. Big Mac. We're looking at medium fries. With Ketchup. which is it's interesting that feel the need to specify as opposed. As opposed fries in. In, the barbecue sauce I did money. He's a wild man I mean that's the first thing you all need to understand about. Trans Scott. He loves is not live life your script who dips his fries in barbecue sauce him on the barbecue sauce. For that delivery. For it So, Jay Belva more down the middle in terms of Friday pige buttons hold onto your butts because. On the beverage side, you're not even getting a beverage instead is an Oriole MC flair. What. Yeah, my head just exploded I. Know It's kind gross actually. A clean that. Brains everywhere in this office. The yeah I mean, that's pretty like that is actually not a value if you're paying the same Matt, you would for. That male with a with a Soda Seda. Road. The fact that you're getting a little little ice cream treat, I might have to get this Belvin full support. Some of his jams they they are trading. Jams from that Jay Glavin they. Married. There he is ladies and gentlemen got him. Lit. Up. I love it. I love it. All right. Well guys that is going to do it for today's episode of trending. I will be back tomorrow with both miles and I. And a great episode It's a classic. It's a classic. Do you hear that he never says that? But then wash your hands stay inside wear masks unless you're you know ready to die for the president. be kind to each other become to yourselves. Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we'll talk y'all tomorrow. Piece of the Planet Kalemie God here, and it is a privilege and honor to be able to introduce. A new podcast creates shot no chaser hosted by queen named Tesla Figaro debut in on my new black affect podcast network on iheartradio. She is the hood whisper in the game of politics and you won't take it. She give it to you straight shot no chaser. You've been warned which you will be informed. This is Tesla. That, saying the truth is to swallow will I've learned that the more you can the truth the easier become suggests the truth is an acquired taste. 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Study Shows That COVID-19 Patients Testing Positive After Recovering Are Not Infectious
"The class of two thousand twenty deserves a proper sendoff, which is why Iheartradio and Doritos brings you commencement the podcast, featuring speeches and dedications from icons. We admire most hear from. A A lot of things we will never injury pit bull guys a generation. Go change the world, Becky, G, cashew, and many many more check out commencement the podcast out now on the iheartradio APP, or wherever you get podcasts with a special Doritos Valedictorian episode where Doritos takes graduation speeches to another level by naming five Valedictorians giving them each fifty thousand dollars in tuition assistance in sharing their speeches with the world. It's Thursday. May Twenty First I'm Oscar Ramirez in Los Angeles and this is the daily dived. Some good news for regions that are reopening their economies, a recent study from South Korea is showing that covid nineteen patients that have tested positive after recovering or not infections. These so-called re positive patients weren't spreading any lingering infection, and we're shedding only dead virus, Arctic. Emma court health reporter at Bloomberg. News joins us for what we learning about. How contagious someone is after recovering from the virus? Next has all fifty states reopening in some form. Already are gyms to reopen. For, a lot of gym owners, there's a frustration in the lack of any strict guidelines. Temperature checks extra cleaning hand sanitizer must. Face masks snoop present an uncertainty with some gyms leading the customers decide on whether to wear them. Hillary POKKA wits contributor to the wall, Street Journal joins us for how the first gyms are handling the combat. Finally in school might be cancelled right now, but that hasn't stopped scandals from being resolved on Monday. The University of Kentucky fired the entire coaching staff of its storied cheerleading program. three-month internal investigation said that the students were engaging in hazing rituals. Nudity and drinking alcohol and the Coaches Watch. Tim Sullivan Sports Columnist at the Courier Journal joins us for more. News without the noise that's. More importantly, the researchers in Korea believes that the diagnostic test we use are well able to distinguish between of active particles in the virus in particles with virus that are not active and are able to sort of be infectious. Joining us now is Emma Court reporter at Bloomberg News. Thanks for joining US Emma. Thanks for having me. It's interesting news coming out of the South Korean CDC. Might. Be Some pretty good news. Actually concerning recovered patients and possible immunities, researchers are finding evidence that patients who test positive for the coronavirus after recovering aren't capable of transmitting the infection, and they could have antibodies that could prevent them from falling sick again. Emma tell us a little bit more about what they're saying. This is a really interesting piece of research. They basically looked at people who had had covered and later tested positive, even though it has been some period of time since they had been sick and basically attempted to answer this question of our people infectious, even later on, and the researchers seem to think that they are not infectious, which is good news because knowing that people have recovered no longer infectious, extremely important, obviously as we try to reopen economies and some people back to work in school and things like that, and it's also kind of a hopeful note in terms of this, though lingering question about whether people who've had covid and survived and. Are Immuno although that's still I think something. Many people would tell you is still a big unanswered question at this point I wanna make sure I. Get this right. These people that tested positive again. Were they sick again where they showing symptoms themselves or they just tested positive after previously getting over it and having a negative test. So they recovered, it sounds like the researchers had negative test from them, and then they had another positive test. They're calling them. Quote Unquote. Re positive patients, so that's important here because there's also been an indicator that they have and they're going to test, but more importantly, the researchers in Korea believes that the diagnostic test we use our well able to distinguish between sort of active particles in the virus and particles virus that not active and are able to sort of be infectious, so that's kind of the key thing here. This really underscores the limitation of the diagnostic tests that we have rather than sort of making bigger sweeping. Conclusions about how coronavirus work so in these people that had recovered, they also had some antibodies against this, and that's also interesting to you compared this a little bit to a recent study in Singapore about SARS, people who had recovered from SARS and they had neutralizing antibodies nine to seventeen years after their initial infection. Now we don't know obviously if this is the case with covid nineteen specifically, but it is kind of a cousin virus. Let's say and this is the thing. The hope is that your antibodies would protect you for quite some time after getting in fact. We've seen it. Be This way with other viruses right? We've seen antibodies be protective and other scenarios, but there are a lot of limitations. Do the facility. Corona virus, and we also don't know if there is immunity how long it lasts, and that's kind of the biggest question right now. kind of underscoring every public health effort we launch every private sector effort around coronavirus I mean the answer to this question is going to have really widespread implications, and you know you might be able to say we believe this. We assume they're probably is immunity Elliott some levels immunity, but we just don't know that for sure because we haven't studied that specifically at this point and been able to come to a firm conclusion. How many a little bit more about people testing positive again because some of these tests can't distinguish between dead and virus particles, because this was one of the discussions that was having with somebody else of. Does the virus just lie dormant, or we get rid of it completely? So, what is this kind of mean on that front? Understanding that researchers have is the virus. Particles may remain in cells even effort. They've sort of been inactivated so ideas that are the test we have aren't always they believe able to distinguish between active and inactive particles and I think it's worth noting like this is just one element of allergic discussion. We're having around diagnostic tests and how well they work on the. The whole I mean. Can we rely on a test that you take when you're sick to be? The be all end all in terms of saying you have coronavirus. Don't have coronavirus and I think this study is just the sort of the latest proof that there are extremely important limitations that we have to consider. I think many doctors would tell you if you're. You're someone and you test negative for Covid nineteen. Like may still think you might have it, and they may still tell you to some quarantine. They still tell you to be extremely cautious in your behavior, not go out for fourteen days in the like, because there are other factors at play, and we can't rely entirely on these tests to just tell us yes. Yes or no, but as you mentioned at the beginning, this is a positive sign for regions that are reopening their economies so much, so that South Korea has revised a bunch of its protocols, and basically saying that. If you recovered from this, you went through a period of isolation. You're good to go move freely. We don't have to worry about you anymore. Right and I think that's a really good point and I think you know I actually just spoke with a person in public health and Utah who was saying they've seen the same problem. Right? People had covid nineteen. They recovered and can test positive. I times months afterwards, and she said you know we're just following the CDC protocol, which are I think probably pretty aligned with what career is doing. Doing sort of just basically waiting a certain amount of time after people have sent, you know insurance. They've recovered and kind of following that protocol around infection, so I think you know it does pose knowing this emerging evidence around how antibodies with this disease work will kind of embolden public health officials. You know not just in incredible, but around the world in terms of making some of these decisions. Court health reporter at Bloomberg, news thank you very much for joining us. Thanks so much. An it career at ddat means owning the opportunity to play a crucial role in transforming how agencies operate join DDAT for challenging and impactful work that advances your career apply now at Gd it. Dot Com slash careers. GED's laboratory. Florida's billy veteran I heart radio in state farm know the graduation stage is the first of many, and while grads may not be walking across one this year. They can get the send-off. 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Was a greening them in a mask as well as with a face shield, having a glove on my hand taking their temperature, they'll. They are filling out daily symptom report, and then a their direct manager is making a physical I. check on them as well. Hillary POKKA wits contributor to the Wall Street Journal. Thanks for joining US Hillary. Thank you as the country is in this phase of reopening now I think by now all fifty states have reopened in some type of capacity. wanted to try to focus on different aspects of that and gyms are one of those specific things that could be potential breeding ground for a virus or any other illness to spread just due to the amount of people in a possible location at the different touching. Touching of equipment, and how quickly those things get cleaned up, so hillary wrote an article about how ready are gyms to reopen and all JIM's depending where they're located, have to follow their local guidelines, but it still seems that masks are kind of that one thing that nobody agrees on. You have to wear them in some places you don't and others that seems to be one of the major stick ups. So, not every state you know agrees that Jim's need to open in the first phase, but of the places that have it seems like the states seem reluctant to put a real mandate down. They'll say things like recommend. People wear a mask or they'll say that. The Gym should encourage people to wear a mask. It's very squishy I think it's hard for Jim Owners to really know what? What to do, but there are a few things that they're very specific about the regulations you have to separate equipment or you know. Turn off every other treadmill for example, keep people farther apart. A lot of places are not allowing locker rooms to open yet and swimming pools and gyms. No, where are they allowing swimming pools and basketball courts and things like that are not open yet. As far as the way, let's say a machine would get cleaned or something if somebody is using it, do they stop usage of that machine until somebody can come and clean, and how does that type of thing working out? Most places are setting up disinfecting stations within easy reach of every machine. Every Jim that I spoke to you and say it's the opening. They've multiplied the number of hand. Hand sanitizing stations and disinfecting wipes, and they're telling customers to wipe down the equipment before, and after they use it and the gym staff. Themselves are wiping everything down someplace. They're doing an intermission in the middle of the day at one o'clock, and doing a deep clean of everything, and then letting people back in others are just constantly. You have trainers who are now cleaners, basically who are? Are just wiping down all of the equipment all the time you definitely want to be, you want cleaning to be conspicuous that good ever if you go to you to TV very conspicuous, and if possible, you want them to have doors open for example, every doctor that I talked to. You said that they'd like air movement exchange of air. Things should be walking through. You want windows or doors. Doors Open if possible, so Georgia Oklahoma Tennessee there among these handful of states that have allowed gyms to reopen the first wave of business reopenings. Tell us a little bit about conversations. You've had with people in these areas. Because there's a few differences, there's the smaller local gyms. There's the bigger chain gems, and then there's even cross centers, which all have their kind of individual quirks to them. Most of the places that I talked to. There were a few large gym chains that have reopened in places like Crunch Planet Fitness Goals Gym. Those chains have all reopened, and they have their corporate cleanliness policies that and a lot of cases are more strict than whatever state policies they have, and then the cross fits and smaller gyms there live on their own, I mean the ones. I spoke to in Georgia. They have the Centers for disease. Control right there in Atlanta. So I feel like they may be in a better position than most because some of their members worked for the CDC's. CDC's like and ask them. Hey, what do you really recommend? And most of the places instructors are required to wear masks, and as far as the members go, it seems to be optional, but some of the places like orange theory for example is making their instructors wear masks and goggles, and they're requiring members to wear masks, so everyone is like fully covered and protected other places. They're making it more optional and I. It really is down to you. As JIM member have to kind of weigh the risks and the benefits, because now we know about heavy breathing and causing and singing the choirs. The spread and other parts of the country and the problem with the heavy breathing and then panting is that those particles in the air? Then they fall onto the machines, and that's what worries doctors the most, so it's really about cleanliness space between people and comfort level what has been the turnout to the gyms. What has been the return of people so far? It's only been a week or two for most places, but all the gym that I spoke to said that they're looking at about half capacity. They've limited the number of people that can work out at a time a lot of places now. You have to reserve your spot online ahead of time. Even if it's not a class, you just need to reserve your workout time for example, but only about fifty percent, if that of the amount of traffic that they would normally experience at this time of year. They're seeing however I will say that. That every time I spoke to had new members join, and they say it's the combination of people just itching to get out of the house and do something, and also people are much more aware of health and implications of poor health, and how sort of this virus has impacted people who are on the unhealthier end of the Scales and so a lot of the gym so that they have a positive uptick in people saying you know what I really wanted like take control and of my personal health, and like starting in two directions. Killary wits contributor to the Wall Street Journal. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank, thank you. Both. Hear of any behavior such as this going forward. We have excellent oversight in terms of. Sandy Bell and all the other structures of this university puts in play. Joining us now is Tim Sullivan Sports columnist at the Courier Journal thanks for joining US Tim. You. Talk about a school cheerleading scandal. It's this interesting time. During the pandemic schools were canceled, a lot of things are shut so when the story up I was like it kind of struck me. I didn't know something like this was ongoing, but apparently this was a something that had been being investigated for quite some time. The University of Kentucky Fired Their Entire Truly and coaching staff from their program on Monday, and they said that students on the team had engaged in hazing rituals and public nudity and use alcohol on the Coaches Watch Tim. Tell us a little bit about what happened. There were a couple of trips to the team took Wunderlich Cumberland another after even in Tennessee that were designed as bonding type experiences, and were scheduled very heavily. Most of the time to the team was together, but there was some downtime, and there were college students being college. some of the things that were alleged in the report I don't think would come as a huge surprise to anyone who attended college that there were sexually charged chance and topless bottomless books in the lake and drinking and all of this. Be Guest team. Whether happy in you, coaches over the knowledge of the coaches. I think the sticking point there's going. There's been quite a lot of backlash from cheerleaders informer, surely saying that you know that they are adults and. They're responsible for their own actually. Didn't really know what's going on. And that seems to be across the matter right now. Is Whether University Demonstrate that they had knowledge or should add and the coaches. That out. We don't know this was a three month. Internal investigation done by the University of Kentucky, and it was prompted because there was a complaint made by a student's parent an early February as you mentioned they were doing. These basket tosses where I hurl one of the cheerleaders, and they were hurling them into the lake, and he's you mention either topless slur bottomless. They said that several. Several chillers became intoxicated and some required medical treatment during the retreat because of the drinking, so these are all the allegations that are involved in that part of the report, also I guess they were looking in to see if there was any sexual assault or any type of sexual misconduct during those trips in the report. They said that they found no evidence of any of that stuff. There were things mentioned in port that they They! could not confirm or did we're not? Confident enough to allege. I can imagine with a team of I think fifty four. Cheerleaders of enders that you're going to have certain activities that place individuals at risk and take one of the things that maybe not as well understood by some students as the administrators is that you know that the hazing it's been alleged can be very subtle, and there can be a Lotta. Peer pressure applied to me seem reasonably innocent, some and less to others that may be a big bone of contention as well is. Has This move forward to me? It has a lot of echoes of the two thousand fourteen case, involving the highest march in my daughter happened to be a member of the band at that time. And a lot of the allegations are very similar. And the result was the bandleader lost his job and I had a hard time imagining that this will go much different, so the four coaches have been removed now. One of the interesting things that happened was that some of the students on the cheerleading squad were rallying around the coaches on social media. How did that go? It's ongoing I mean I've found already. At least four incidents are cases of female, surely posted videos themselves being flung into the lake with both halves or their bikini intact. That doesn't prove that there wasn't. Nudity in other situations, or possibly even with these same girls in another flips, but I think the message that the students, and the surely the cheerleaders. Unfortunately, you're trying to get out. Is that you know what was done was done. You know my free will and soon so by large were. Leitch there may have been some examples of miners were exposed to alcohol on the were, but I don't know that that is the hardest I think they're. More concerned from the sexual harassment. And sexual charge behavior. Drinking at least that's my perception that that hasn't stand -actly. Tim Sullivan sports columnist at the courier. Journal. Thank you very much for joining us. Anytime. That's it for today. Join US on social media at Dude. I bought on both twitter and instagram. 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The Madness Is Here
"Y'all. Welcome to the party. Smith's America podcast is all you forty seven repre- you taking the time to hang out with us again this week last week, you guys really enjoyed my rambling dribble about everything that I had experienced over the past several weeks. And so we're going to continue that theme this week albeit with a couple of interviews this past weekend. I engaged in the second annual ESPN tournament challenge marathon during which I visited eight different schools. We were on a bus. I was on a bus with eight other news for almost fifty hours smelled like a barn by the time. We got done we went to Murray state, and then we went to Louisville, and then we went to Lexington in the university of Kentucky, and then we left there and went to Knoxville Tennessee to the university of Tennessee. And then we went over to Gardner Webb experiencing its first ever. NC double A tournament experience. Then we went to Wofford right before they left to head off to their turnament game. We interviewed one of their players and their coach at seven thirty in the morning, and they got on the bus at eight. So they waited for us to go. We appreciate that from Wofford we made our way to Chapel Hill and the university of North Carolina where I hung out with coach ROY Williams, Luke maye and Cam Johnson. And then we finish the tour in Durham at Duke University where I hung out with trae Jones and Javan delory. So it was quite a trip. We learned a lot we spent a lot of time with various members of these programs. I played knock out against the ladies at Louisville Asia Dir and Dana Evans, they're great players for a two-time ACC player of the year. And I got one shot up and the ladies not me out. Basically the same thing happened later that. Same day at Kentucky when Macy Morris and Taylor Murray. The great guards for the Wildcats knocked me out immediately. Travis I also tried to make they have this REU at Kentucky the ladies basketball team where you have to make twenty five three pointers in two minutes before you can leave the floor. I made sixteen cold not awful, not great not awful. And then I went down in Knoxville, and it again took one shot a hung out with l'amante Turner. And Jordan Bowden from the university of Tennessee who they are now on their way to the Sweet Sixteen and just a lot of fun man Gardner Webb was wild five o'clock in the morning. Four fifty in the morning. There are hundreds of students in the stands utterly coming on glued losing their mind that the mardi party was in town. I was gonna ask you about that you've gone a lot of places mardi party tracks. A lot of craziness where does that rank way up? And all of the context needs to be noted because I mean, again, it was four fifty in the morning, we leave Knoxville sometime around midnight. Maybe twelve fifteen I think after hanging out with tort Turner and Bowden in Thompson Boling arena. It was awesome to be in there getting shots up, by the way. I appreciate that. Because I mean, look man, they're they're college students. They're getting ready to head off the ANSI AA tournament. They got a lot going on a lot of stress involved in that. And they took the time at eleven o'clock at night to show up at the gym. And do an interview with us live on the tournament challenge show. So I'm so appreciative of those guys and everybody's university of Tennessee for taking the time to do that. So we leave there and head off to boiling springs, North Carolina. I passed out on the bus, and I wake up at the they wake me up Tommy Ingle and Patrick Abraham's my boys that kinda ran the the show. They're put together all the logistics. They shake me awake. They're like, dude. Where Gardner Webb get up your on TV? Eight minutes. So I'm like pound and a Cup of coffee. I walk into the gym. And it is Bo is bad lem in their kids were losing their minds have signs there. There's a guy dressed like some sort of the range Dale who was like a mini game. It was like game day game day, and they came the showed out. It was awesome. And we appreciate it so much. They gave me sandwiches. Apparently boiling springs is the liver mush capital of the world. So they on the way if I would've known that those sandwiches were there and to their credit, Tom and Patrick again. My producers they clued me in that the running BULLDOGS were going to give me a liver must sandwich. I was a half asleep and wasn't really thinking. And if I would have thought about it, I would've taken a hack out of that Livermore sandwich on TV. But alas I did not think about it and the coaching staff. Handed me this ten like this big ten full of the sandwiches to take on the bus with us. And I think they're still on the bus. I feel like that would have been a bad decision that might have toppled topped your philophical eating liver. Mush that doesn't sound real op still working on philophical. I think man, it's a good thing that had liver mush then. Anyway. So we leave the madness at Gardner Webb. And at this point it's five thirty or so in the morning, and we're once we're we're going to get our ETA at Wofford is like seven so going back to sleep. After pounded this Cup of coffee. We only have ninety minutes. It didn't make any sense. So we route our way over to Spartanburg to where Wofford colleges, and they are waiting on us, man. They were crazy too. There was like fifty dudes. Their main building is called old main on campus, and they have this tradition where when you enter the building at the top of these steps, very steep steps. There is this. There's like a a sign on the wall right in front of you. It's like a big plaque. And there's a misspelled word. But Nissen, I think the word is been beneficent or benefit one or one of the other. But either way. They're supposed to be an e and there's an I in the students take their thumb and rub that I for good luck before exams, and you can see where they do it every day. I mean, the the plaque is a bit soiled right because it's old. But man, the brass gold whatever that is is bright as day where those students participate in that tradition. So I show up at the old main. And I'm going to interview real plan put together to live live moment. I'm going to interview their senior center, Matthew Pegam, great kid. He could be my younger, brother. He had a great red beard. He looked like me twenty years ago and a foot taller and great great young, man. So he's going to explain to me that tradition. Quick comment about ball and going to AA tournament as a seven seat great year they had and then I was going to run down those stairs through a student tunnel to. Their head coach, Mike young who. Also, let me tell you about awesome, dude, man that guy he's from Niro GRA. He knows so many peop- starts on about. Steve Ragsdale, it's my legendary high school football coach jobs high school Virginia high school league legend. And like I was like man we're going to be we're going to be tight. I didn't realize that coach knew all these people. He the athlete director Radford university, my alma mater is Robert limber, and they're very close. And so it was just really cool to chat with coach young. What a great man and we discussed their run to the NCAA tournament. What expectations are how to define success. And then I turn out saw those crazy dudes up on top of the stairs losing their minds shirtless. I'm like what's wrong with him? He goes, I don't know, man. Maybe you take them with you. But awesome time at Wofford, and when I got to Carolina I was thinking as a team we were kind of going through, man. These guys have been asked every single thing you could possibly answer about basketball. So let's have fun. And let's go completely off the off the reservation, man. Let's go completely off script. And I'm gonna I'm gonna do rapid-fire with them pop cul. Rapid fire. And it was funny. Not even gonna talk who might go rapid fire. You ready for this? He would go favorite song favorite song. I'd have to go. Something drake. I don't have a favorite. She play unit movie should play me in a movie, I'm say, we'll Smith. Mom's best dish. Stuff, salmon, and collard greens and rice, favourite binge-watch favorite binge-watch friends. Oh, Fred friends. Thank you back. Favorite at Spotify favorite emoji sunglasses emoji greatest basketball player of all time, Jordan hands. I was gonna say greatest tar heel of all time we answer to then don't we text or FaceTime FaceTime last person. You texted last person? I'd text the probably my mom celebrity crush, Jen. Franson hope friends Aniston called him. Good. Looking young men. Last time. You cried, cried senior nights unite speech. Good job on this biscuits or corn bread biscuits. Best on the team Koby, not you know. That'd be worse on the worst hair on the team. Huff one word to describe coach Williams. Charismatic charismatic this rapid fire with Cam Johnson. Excellent fish, this is Luke maye. And it's time for rapid fire. You ready for this morning? Here. We go right off the top favorite song. Let's see pry, Honey. I'm good bye. I guess any grammar. Okay. Goodbye. Indie grammar, very good. I've not heard of that song probably should have who should play you in a movie. That'd be good lookin'. Right. Yeah. Gotta be good. Looking probably. Man's Tony stark. Tony stark. Moms bist dish. Spaghetti spaghetti favor. Binge-watch? Not a big TV show guy. Not a big binge watcher. But I've played say like I like transforming movies. Okay. Favored at favorite app. Spies degree killing killing grant favorite emoji emoji. Definitely the laughing emoji big laughing this basketball player of all time. Michael, jordan. Okay. So greatest tar heel of all time. Same answer FaceTime or text FaceTime last person you texted. Cam johnson. So liberty crush. Kate up Kate Upton. I look out for Lander looks for. That last time you cried. Senior speech saying thank AMC's gets cornbread your country. It's team biscuits based on their. The best team per se Koby, why everybody would say, yeah. On the team, Brandon Huffman. Okay. One word to sum up coach Williams winner winner. You love it, man. Thank you rapid fire. Rapid-fire Luke maye. So that was fun to hang out those guys a funny moment to Luke maye. He said Kate Upton was his celebrity crush, and I turn to the camera. I was like oh look out ver- Lander. And I wanted to make sure that you guys heard the way I started the tour and the way I started the tour in Murray Kentucky was with the tremendous young player for the Murray state racers job rant. If you guys haven't heard of this young man, you will he's going to be the second or third pick in the NBA draft. His athleticism is jaw-dropping his unselfishness as a player is tremendous and very rarely is he not the best player on every floor. He steps on. So how does it young man with that kind of ability and up in Murray Kentucky? So we went there and we took him to the park. This was selection Sunday. This was an hour before. Four Murray state learned it's NC double A tournament fate. And he was kind enough to give us a little bit of time at a nearby park. Right there off campus. And I wanted you guys. That's one reason we have the Marty Smith's America podcast is because when we go do these interviews and only the teeny little snippet make it to television. There's so much more interesting commentary there. So you're going to hear a lot of that in this podcast, not just Jaama rant. But also from John Calipari the head coach at the university of Kentucky, but we're gonna start with Joe I want you guys to hear his path and what he hopes to be his future. Does it guy of your talent end up in Murray Kentucky at Murray state university detail that path for me I start off with a lot of hard work coming up in high school. I was I fell under the radar home. I guess was a little overload Dan got invited to China Parsons camp. One of the coaches emerge aims came pizzas. Head in the bag job. I was planning on three. And he just started asking questions about me, and they stay I ended up playing one of my teammates Tevin Brown in a game. And that's what I got Murray. And they offered me a scholarship in the parking lot. So I I read where father I know he had a tremendous has had a tremendous impact on your life. I read where he told you once don't go where you think you should be go where they want you. Why was Murray right? Then they just laid out the red carpet as soon as I stepped foot in American Turkey on. Really just made me felt like this was home. I'm a big family person. And they just Romy and the treating me life family says they want and I felt like they just made it. They wanted me rather than where I wanted to go out to to pick the school. That wanted me what your personality describe your personality for me? I really I say laid back type guy, I can tell. I don't do too much really just standard. Joe? So other than that really case, they when you're growing up in South Carolina, and you're putting in work in the backyard by yourself in the dark where nobody else is watching what are the dreams. What are you? Dreaming about in that backyard really to just get to the biggest level. But I can obviously started here. Finally, got basketball dream, come true. And now chasing today. NBA? You're definitely chasing to the NBA. What's this year? Been like, how do you describe because I'm gonna be honest with you man, straight up on a six months ago. Never heard you name. It didn't take long for me to hear your name. What's this been like how has your life progressed in transition any volved over the season? Oh. Where from? Like, you said nobody knowing me to now one of the biggest players in college basketball. So really? I really can't do too much now. What's it like to go out and public shots? Man. You get. People come in for autographs, so pitches. So it really just a lot of people knowing me. So I'm still a big family person. So I love doing it. I don't mind at all. How do you describe your dad's influence on the player? You are. I said he really made me who I he taught me everything I really needed to know. Most people think is you gotta do the fancy things, but really all since says they want he just taught me the fundamentals about some ball. Using my left right hand stuff like that. What about mental toughness? What what about being adult? How did he grow you into being the guy? That's flushing it on everybody and finding your teammates the way you do. I'll probably say it was one of my hate us before I had really he'd never compliment me on anything. Good. You always told me too bad about what I do. And so now when I hear fans called me overrated anything really doesn't bother me because he would call me overrated before they could. Yeah, you're like I don't care what man's been saying what are you talking about? And he really just taught me how to just keep my composure just stay ready just half fun with everyday what we through some of those drills that you did in the backyard. I've read about tractor tires. I've read about chairs I've read about inanimate objects that you're working around. How did you come to to to use that philosophy say the tiles my favorite, although I hate it? Don't coming up. Math. Every drew will have the jump on track to tie it twenty times. And has it got easier? He put a little padded under it to make you hire for me. So I say that's potty my favorite to do. But other than that really just read defended he'd made this cone on wheels. And I come and make a move here. Push the coin I mean, I just have to read make move off of it. So it really just helped me like in a game. If definitive try to jump still the ball, and I can change direction became muscle memory for you that way. What was the moment when you knew your life was starting to change in terms of the public awareness of your town. I probably say out that Alabama. Look at the smile. I like it take me the Alabama done. It was late in the game was on trying to fight back to come out with a win. And I came down on a full court play got ahead of one of my defenders and just seeing. Open and just took it and when finished a play, and after that, dunk, my social media just started blowing up. Who's reached out to you? Or you learned that they know who you are. That was the most surprising who are some of the guys that have become fans of yours that you've noticed. I think my biggest is probably I. What do you say he told me that also I was tough and just keep going and also Kevin Durant? I think I was really surprised him on the podcast. I heard he said how's his favorite player to watch? And then recently, he did me and said just keep pushing so. Haney slides into the Deums. To get that. I was surprised I really couldn't even say how felt about all I could do. Well, I. John. Let's Kevin Durant. Okay. That that's the either the best player in the world or the second best player in the world telling you that you're his guy tell you about your game. Guess. I'm a good player on this coming from hill. Thank you said being the best player possibly top three in the league right now. One of the hardest things to do for us as human beings talk about ourselves. I'm asking you all of these questions trying to get you to discuss yourself magin, you've evolved quite a bit from that capacity. What's it been like? That what's that part of your life been like, how do you? Why do you who are you every single day the way you've had to do this year a mile saying it was tough? Yeah. Imagine I'm a very humble person. I really don't like speaking too much myself. So. Best to haw par really talking about myself after obviously I blew up. So I want to see and hear the story behind the tattoo. No one tattoo. Well, come in. I was a you high school, I'll very overlooked. So it was times that I questioned myself. What was I good enough to be able to play at the next level? And I give credit and my parents. My dad always told me that I'm trying to go basically like how built for it. And my mom always told me beneath no one to keep pushing. So I say. Both of those just kept me going and obviously pay it off. What were the down times? Like, what was it? Like when you feel like why is nobody checked? Why is nobody coming here to see me? What kind of chip is that you still have that chip say I still play with that chip on my shoulder. That's just a passing and emotion. I play with today. Just play with a chip on my show. What has to happen to lose? It. Oh, thank. So you come here to Murray state. How does Murray Kentucky compliment your personality? Is really almost seminal to solve wack home from where I live. It's very small town. But you can go anywhere. Somebody knows u somebody's very small. And then everybody say everybody is almost together as one really on the same mission. And I'm a big family person. I grew up and like I said, I'm not sure marry Mary as to me now is family, and they brought me as they want. You said you can go anywhere. And people know, you imagine at this point, you go everywhere people. One last thing. How do the dreams in the backyard compared to what you're current reality is is just so my dream for? House working forward. And I said now that my hall work is finally paying off if feels good, but I see a lot more work to do. We'll tell you what really stood out to me in. That interview. Travis was the fact that he said his dad was here's his hair. I hater his hater before he even had haters, and I said to him on the car ride back to the arena that many of us, and I have a lot of friends who are high achievers who spent so much of their life doing their very best to earn their father's favor to make daddy proud. And I can guarantee you that jaaz parents are bursting with pride, and I'm so impressed with him. I'm impressed with forget the basketball ability, which we know is world class. He has a grace about him and an understanding of the moment and being where his feet are. It's so hard to do in this life to be present. And be where. You are. And he consciously. Takes that approach to everything. Lows is brothers loves his coaching staff at Murray state, and now he'll start the process of what's next. And of course, everybody expects that to be the NBA. He's a top. He's a lottery pick and probably going to be second or third in the draft. Tremendous young man, Travis you're leaving one thing out of this Murray state stopped the mardi was a FaceTime. That's you call it somebody in front of the team to surprise them. And it wasn't just like, oh, hey, I've got a friend here. That's like a buddy of mine. That's it was kind of a big name. It was a spur of the moment thing. So I get to Murray state and really like Matt McMahon the head coach there. He's a vibrant guy young guy. Great coach. And I noticed that several players had championship belts on like wrestling championship belts. And they were elaborate. And when he takes me into coach McMahon took me on a tour and walking around looking at the facilities. Their locker room is tremendous their practice. Gym is brand new and amazing. And he's explaining to me that they've sent all these point guards to the NBA over the past several years, and so we're just discussing this. And then he's like let me show you our player like our film area. And he takes me in. And it's these twelve or fifteen leather chairs, it's like theater seating huge screen up there. Whiteboard behind it where he can draw motivational stuff or plays or team motto or whatnot. And on the little shelf that holds the drought race markers. There is a championship belt. That has Rick flair. It says flair on it. And it's gold and encrusted and gorgeous. It's awesome. So I'm like you'll flair and he's like, oh, dude. You don't even know. So without him, even knowing it. I'm like FaceTime. So FaceTime player and h answers the phone. He's like. And so make man's losing his mind. He can't believe this. So I turn I basically hand the phone to coach McMahon and let him talk to flare, and I was blown away. We both were by how much the nature boy knew about Murray state basketball. He went on and on about John. What a great player he is. Now. Funny used to watch. And it was just a really awesome moment to see that. And I know how much flair enjoys that stuff. He was hanging out at home answers, the FaceTime and coach McMahon loved every second of it. And that was just neat to do. And then I saw later on Twitter right before the first round that Nate shouted out Murray. State coach McMahon joh- all those guys and wished him good luck in the tournament. So that's just cool because they love their two claps in Rick flair. That's what they do. So it was fun to be able to do that for him. And and I appreciate appreciate nature for answered the phone. He could have he could have just Heisman me. And he didn't speaking of the opportunity to get the Heisman and being shown grace. Instead that happened a lot on this trip. We took a lot of chances and one of the biggest chances that we took was interrupting John Calipari is weekly radio show at Malone's prime events this reception hall in Lexington Kentucky on the UK sports network. He does it every week. And we worked it out with the sports information staff and with the radio staff and with Malone's prime staff that we were going to roll up in their live on sportscenter. The only person who didn't knows coach Cal. So we weren't rude. Don't worry. We everybody was in on the joke except for him. And we roll straight in there man, L Dunkin throws out to me from sports center. And I roll right up in that thing holler. And the I ha- I'll be honest with you had a little bit of concern a little bit of concern at first because when I went rolling up in their the look on coach cows face was not. It was I don't know whether it was shocked discussed annoyance, I didn't know what that look was. But once we got in there, I got down on an e beside him, and we had a whole lot of fun. And I then tried to make the transition into starting to ask my questions because we only have three minutes. And so I went in. And I my initial thought was I'm gonna I'm gonna I want to know how you continually retooling team when everybody that you recruit and everybody on your team's going to the NBA every year and Calipari is brilliant at that. He's just brilliant. And so I start my thought process by saying coach, you are so good. And he goes up say it again, I said you are so good. He said one more time. I said you're so damn good. And he's like man, I'm might like this interview. So we discuss all of those things I tell us back to the studio. And at that time, he went ahead and finished his Radi. Oh show. There was about. I don't know twenty minutes left in the show at that point. So we just hung out. And waited afterwards. He walked over and said that he really enjoyed that. And thought it was funny. And I was like, hey, you think we could get a couple more questions in on the bus. We'd like to bring you down to the to the game day bus and hang out in the back, and and really expound upon what you're doing it Kentucky, how you've evolved as a coach, etc. And he said, yes, and this is what is it? Travis. Six minutes. Five minutes, six minutes. Okay. What this man says in this six minutes, I found to be profound. And I felt like this was the perfect platform for you guys to hear it. So here's my my chat with John Calipari during the ESPN tournament challenge marathon in a game day bus about legacy, which is hard to discuss. While you're still living. It fascinating person. Coach. How would you read the SEC in two thousand nineteen compared to a typical year? Well, there was some lean years where we were getting two and three teams in and the last two years, not only well the one year, we only got three teams in Florida and us went to the final four which tells you they should've put more teams. But you know, now, you're getting seven and eight and those teams are advancing. It's really good. And we're preparing each other for success guys. Played different some are playing zone. Some are pressing summer playing a little bit slower some are trapping. You know, some teams are playing a little slower to to for Pacers game. We're all I think everybody we've all prepared each other for these weekends in what ways specifically how does that rigorous schedule in your lead prepare you for March. Well, you're going to be in a lot of close games. They learn about themselves coaches learn about their teams, what does it work? What like I'll remember like I'm not doing that. Again, if I'm ever in that situation and a lot of times, it's like, wow. That really is a good way for us to finish a game. So you're just learning. I mean, I like to say we're winning or learning throughout the year because everything for me is always been care about conference tournament. Really don't care about conference championship stuff. It's all is it preparing us to get the best seed, we can get because that's important and advance in this term at what point do you? Stop caring about those things. Start caring about the long view because. Awards matter when you're young, but as you move along in age in your career, those things tend to take less of an importance, you know, Marty it's when you're when you make your life about other people it becomes easier. Everything when you're trying to just gather, you're very lonely person. And and you do take things personal. You know, we've I've been so blessed. I mean, there's no way I should be in the seat. I'm in. I wasn't you know, as a player I was small, but I was slow. I mean, I didn't play for these guys. I mean that wasn't that guy. I didn't play for him which helped me get this. And I'm in Kentucky. And and now all of a sudden we've gotten forty guys to the NBA we've had number one picks lottery picks. I mean twenty five lottery pig terminable. It's it's almost two billion in contracts. And you sit there and say most of those families. It's the first time they breathe they get a breast like we've gone hand to mouth our whole lives our whole family for generations. And now, we get the brief, and we get to be a part of the American dream and to be that guy. That's kind of the Khanda with to help. It's it's it's heady stuff. I don't take it lightly because I know what's at stake for the families. But it's a ball when I'm in that. Why would you go to the green? I'm having its graduation. I'm having a ball hugging kissing. This was what it was about. Well, you know like you don't care about winning. We've one more than more viable more league championships tournament gypsy. So don't say I don't care about winning. But not at the expense of the kids. It's a no it's hard to toke legacy. You led me into this just for the record? I know it's hard while you're still doing it. Right. But it sounds to me like you have a pretty solid idea. What you're trying to leave here. What is that you trying to leave with the idea that how many people that I help along the way how many staff members have opportunities. I mean, and let me say this. I have been treated and paid more than I deserve. I want more. No. More than I deserve because of the success of these players, which in turn makes me feel obligated. How do I help? How do I? Really counsel the right way, some kids need to stay a little longer some kids need to go. Now. How do I do this without being selfish? We had five guys drafted in one draft. We had six guys drafted into different drafts. Which means you lose your whole team. Why wouldn't you try to keep to three of those guys? Why didn't you venture guy? So he had to come back because it's not about me. It's about those families. Now, the kids don't always like me because I'm going to tell you. It's stuff's on steroids. We're that. I don't have time for BS no time for BS. We're gonna keep it real. Sometimes I get aggressive. But you're gonna know I love you. So I can be aggressive because you know, at the end of the day, I'm making this about you not me, I want it to be about me. I don't wanna come out with you know, coloring my hair and going crazy and doing backflips I do enough of that during the game last thing. I know you gotta run what you're mrS to your young men before you guys had the Jackson. Play to your training play to your training. If you play to the tournament, you can do that for about fifteen minutes if you play to the opponent, you could do that for about fifteen minutes if you play to the training, and you fall back on that training do that for forty minutes. And if you play the way, we're capable of for forty minutes, and you lose you can walk away and say what we lost Tennessee in in the semi-finals of our tournament. And when I looked at the stats, I'm like. These are winning numbers, which means at the end couple plays a couple of calls that and you lose the game. And I walked away saying guys weren't good shape. Tennessee's funnel fourteen. You had them beat in a neutral court. What a we let let's go play to the training. Don't worry about the opponent. You know, how we're trying to get you to play and putting guys in the position that they're comfortable. But it's all real simple to me that way, absolutely brilliant, though. Thank you for your always, learn appreciate it so much. There's no other way that I can begin the sum up his approach. He is so direct and vulnerable and honest in the way that he approaches this, and he is changing people's lives. That's something that I had not considered before. He just said that a lot of these young men that are coming to the university of Kentucky. He is saying, hey, come here. We will nurture you for one year, we will prepare you as best we can for the next level how to handle fame because you go to university of Kentucky and your star, you're famous there's nobody more famous in the state, then you then we will prepare you for how to handle all that's coming at you money fame. People hangers on all those things we will prepare you for that. And we are going to completely. Rewrite your family's future. A lot of these people are struggling now when they leave the university of Kentucky and they go third four v six tenth in the draft. And all the sudden there were twenty five million dollars and to hear the way that he approaches that filled up my tank, I don't care what your opinion is of that philosophy. That's the that is the current parameters that are set in college basketball that is the landscape by which these coaches in these administrations must play adapt or don't and he's even admitted that he doesn't like this format. It's just he has to do what you said what's best for him in the program, and he's going to run with it. And he's going to be better than you add it, but he doesn't like this. No if he has embraced. He was the he was the guy he changed college basketball. He was the guy that said come here, we will embrace that. You're. Going to be here for one year. We will not we we are all in on having you for this one season. And guess what happened? The number one example of his influence on college basketball is my shifty because Duke University went from the four year university where players came and they learned the system, and they grew in the system for three and four years. And all of a sudden, look what's happened. This worked out tremendously he has embraced that. And it really kind of started with kyri. And now it's a whole other phenomenon with Zaylon or j Barrett trae Jones all these folks Cam reddish Cam or J and Zaylon are predicted to be top five top six picks in this draft all on the same roster all nineteen years older, whatever eighteen nineteen years old. So that to me is a real example of okay, if we want. Contend for national championships. And we want to get the best players that come to Durham we have to look over at Lexington and see how they're doing. So that tour was very fulfilling for me on a lot of levels. I really enjoy the camaraderie with the guy's really enjoy spending time with those that we cover and learning from them and feeling the way that they feel as they prepare to go into this amazing moment that is the NC double A tournament that all of them have dreamed about their entire lives. And that includes the coaches, I mean, you look at a gardener with for example, Gardner Webb had never been to the incident tournament before they beat my highlanders and to walk into the gym and to see that reaction and to see the look on coach crafts face. Tim craft is a head coach Gardner Webb. Great gaffe to see the look on his face at what they had accomplished. And what that means to Gardner Webb, man. What that me they they had the opportunity to go to the dance and to be on the national stage. And oh, by the way, lead UVA at half time. They were the story of college basketball for a half. And that is so fun. It's the beauty of March. All we want in this life is a sense of belonging a little bit of appreciation and feeling like we're part of something. And that's the way I felt on this trip. And as I said our last stop on the tour was with Duke, and I'm so pretty she two of Mike degeorge and the communication staff for getting me a couple players. They have been worn out this season warned slap out with all of the attention. That comes with a phenomenon exile Williamson and after practice we showed up at Cameron indoor stadium we walked in there. And. Mike brought me trae Jones the great point guard, wonderful young man and Javan delory. A and we sat there in the stands at Cameron indoor. And I asked them look I've apologized to these guys I've probably covered the last eight or ten of their games or whatever before the incidentally tournament. Here. I didn't cover the tournament last weekend. But leading up to the tournament several of their games Zeile missed with injury. And then the entire ACC tournament. I covered all those games. And after every one of those games, what was my job Zeile Williamson. And it's a joke now between try Jones in me. I tell him. Hey man's I on time, and we just share laugh, but I wanted to learn about this team. And what it's been like this year what their goals are. And this is just a great interview with two great young men. Appreciate their time. Here is my conversation and Cameron or stadium before they went to the first round of the tournament with trae Jones in Javan delory. We got Javan to Loria and trae Jones from Duke here, I wanna start with how different this season has been when you look back on this season many years from now what will stand out. Probably all the height has been coming with it. I mean, there's how we opened up the season. And while the height they came along with it. I might away obviously got so some big time athletes here. I ready was I j rain a lot of hype. But then I mean, just long the way everything that's happened with celebrities coming into games. Broth obama. Jay z and the different people. So that's definitely gonna stick out to me. So what point did you realize this season's going to be a little bit different season? Then those to which we're accustomed. I was the first game. We came out. We'd be Kentucky kind of changed the way. People talk to got us the way, we're covered by the media and stuff like that. Even though I've been here for three years, and, you know, people talk about there's something completely different choice. You know, we had Barack Obama come together in indoor. So it out of people are gonna come foods to watch our games. It's been pretty crazy patting you guys react when you're in layup line, and you look over and you see the forty fourth prison the United States sitting there. What we've ever you got saying each other is is is this a real moment. Fisher his doesn't even seem real. But I mean once once you get in the game in game sites going back and forth. Really forget about who's they're playing basketball again noted having been here before these guys ever got an established leader of this program. What's it like to have that type of position? And then all of a sudden this phenomenal class comes in that he is so different. To be honest. It's been really easy. Just because these guys have been great from day one. You know, they came in and they would just mature group really just want to get better. And they wanna win. So when you have guys like that who come in, and obviously super talented. They just makes everything flowing really will. We'll does Mike Chiesi demand of his captain's really just frost giant set the tone for group and make sure everything run smoothly. We like to try handle things ourselves before, you know, the coaches interfere. Just that's goes how how basketball operates a lot better. If we, you know handle issues internally we have to practice, and no coaches yelling at everyone. So it's better for. Nip it in the but all these guys come in here. And I wanna know what you thought the first time you saw this guy. I I really saw them play. Because when he got here he was hurt. But I remember the first time we played with pick on pick up. And I was like, wow. You know, he never makes it wrong play. I was shocked. I'd never really seen him play high school, but just court vision. And how funny was the with. Was amazing. I was like we we have a chance to be really good. You guys go out in public. I wanna know what it's like to be out. How do people react and respond to see? And you guys you can't take Zion anywhere. That's. But it's which is again something that, you know, you get used to have been here. You know, pretty big name guys J Tatum, Grayson Allen and going on public. Obviously, we're, you know, pretty knows what we don't really blend into crowds. Well, but might try just the height this come with this year has made it a little bit different. Just in terms of the amount of attention has grown on high. Last thing the standard around here are those banners in that Rafter. You guys are in the number one overall seed in the tournament. How do you define success in this tournament? Like, you said, I mean, all of us came here. For one reason I was to win. So I mean with s ACC tournament we hung one banner. But I mean, I mean goes to win when national championship in. You wanna hang up more banner this year Jetta? Thank you for hanging out this week. We appreciate your investment in the Marty. Smith's America podcast, so much traffic preciado it without you guys? Listen to it, there'd be no reason for us to do it. I want to reiterate something very important on April. First we join the Libertad and friends network. We announced that during the tournament marathon Dan announced a while. I was on the lebatardshow with with him. Stugatz guts that starting April. First the Marty Smith's, America podcast will become part of the merry band of idiots that is the lebatardshow and friends network. That is such an honor for me, I'm thrilled. And you talk about being appreciative those guys investment in us is so humbling. It's awesome. So our first guest is going to be Rick flair. I am working to get the nature boy on the microphone. He has told me he is very interested in doing this interview. So that will hit on April first so be on the lookout for that. Thank you so much to our men and women in uniform all over this world, defending our freedom. We are free, and we need to appreciate the fact that we are free, man. So thank you so much to our military for your sacrifice every single day for keeping us free. That's marty. Smith's America podcast volume? Forty seven thank y'all for hanging out with see you next time around.
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Broadway showtime san tickets eight five nine two seven one joke or visit comedy on broadway dot com. Talk radio ten eighty. This is kentucky. Sports radio presented by stockton mortgage. Now here's meant jones. Welcome everyone kentucky. Sports radio tuesday november the third. I met jones here on an absolutely beautiful day in louisville kentucky. Couldn't ask for a better day. It is election day all across america. And i'm sure many of you have voted and those that have it. You still got a lot of time. You can give us a shout on the clark's puppet shop phone line although we're not opening yet because we're doing something special today. The glass tax machine is seven seven. Two seven seven four five two five four this distance sponsored by. Tj's middel office if you called tj. He'll make him pay. I got ryan and drew in lexington. I've got shannon in louisville ryan. How're doing well. I think we're happy today because all the election ads. You're gonna stop today. That's that's the big. i'm not having. I mean your salaries been paid sick. You can be happy all you want. But the as much as annoying as those are. They've kept this company afloat for the last seven months drew in some ways. I'm would be sorry to see him. Go the have been good for business. But it'll be nice to watch a football game without amy pop end. Tell me about airplanes well again. Shannon these folks they. We'll see what their checks i leading with adl and to come back. I know i the those ads are funny. I'm totally good with it. Well it is going to be. It is election day. I guess the three of us me ryan and drew already voted early shannon heavy. Did you vote today. Not yet as i said yesterday i will this afternoon. Well i to vote for the you. I hope it is well. I want to give a big shoutout to the people who who put this election on in kentucky. The secretary of state. Michael adams the governor. Andy bashir was part of it as well. But the secretary of state did most of the setup and i think it's been amazing. I think this has been honestly ryan the best. They've ever had the fact that you could vote early. Apparently there are lines in parts of kentucky. But i'm hearing. It's not too terrible and i also think man if you waited till today and you have to stay on the line ryan. That's on you. You have three or four weeks so if you chose to wait till today like shannon and you have to wait a couple of hours to me. That's on you actually. Yeah you have no room to complain and the boost have been open for three weeks. They had at least ten voting booths. Set up where you know if you got there and there wasn't line i mean move really efficiently so no complaints from anybody planning always complaining to saying if you if you get there and you have to stand in line. Okay i know sticker. I'm gonna preemptively say you're not allowed to comply right so it is election day but we also we're going to give some money away all right so the breeders cup. Of course. we'll talk more about what's happening with the breeders cup. We had our race yesterday. Late yesterday at indiana grand national turned it on ryan. It was an exciting race. Came down the stretch. The final three horses were willing south carolina andy and marsha and will in south carolina one at the end. And so will mr one. Five hundred dollars yesterday from the breeders cup. He sent me a note. This morning said thank you so much. You guys don't know how much this means to me to win. It is greatly appreciated. Well that is very nice. Well hopefully at some point today maybe we can hear from him but he wins five hundred dollars today. I wanna give five hundred dollars to the folks listening throughout the show. I'm going to have little contest. You know drew. We do the trivia contest. Where i'll bring everybody on and i'll say okay name whatever and everybody has to do one. We do them throughout the day and every time somebody calls i will give people a hundred bucks if they win so those of you at home. Five zero two five seven one eighty when we opened up the phones for the contest. Be ready andrew. I hope to give five different people today. One hundred dollars from the breeders cup me. I can't think of many times you can just sit and listen to a radio show potentially make money just for playing along at home. I mean this is a really cool thing doing i. Didn't i wasn't on yesterday when y'all started this but i'm excited for today and this overall breeders cup giveaway. We're doing this is cool. It's crazy yes and remember and we'll talk more about later on friday and saturday. We're given lots of money away a ks bar and grill. You should make plans especially friday afternoon. Where i think it's you can actually win Quite a bit cat so so it is election day ryan so i wanna do three university of kentucky elections. Okay all right. And since i don't have the entire kentucky state electorate able to vote immediately. I wanted one time to create an app where people could just vote during the show and just hit a button and we'd get live results. That has not happened yet so the only people that the electorate is going to be you three so you you three are going to get to decide the answers to all these questions all right. That's fair and i've created three different votes. Let's start with the first one. And i want you to figure this. Which coach will be the most difficult to replace at the university of kentucky. Do you vote for john. Cale perry do you vote for mark stoops when they leave who will be more difficult to replace and continue the same level of success. John calipari or mark stoops ryan. I will let you cast your first ballot. I am going to vote for mark stoops. Because he is doing things with the uk football program. I thought could never ever ever be done here. At the university of kentucky with recruiting and on the field of play. I think kentucky basketball has always been elite. We've always been able to compete for national championships. Even though perry's is elite of the elite. I'm gonna vote for mark stoops so you think if both guys if tomorrow you were to get a text alert that says you k- coach leaves. You would rather it be. John cale perry that mark stoops to duplicate the question. You propose to start with duplicate what they've been doing yes to i know but that would be your heart would pitter-patter a little quicker if it was stoops 'cause you'd be more worried that's not how you propose the question the question you said which will be harder to duplicate what they've been doing presumably. That's why you'd be the most upset because you would know it would be harder. I thought was which one would it be harder to replace. What is the question. Gives us the question. The answer to me should be the same. If you think it's going to be more difficult to replace a coach. You're gonna wanna see them. Leave less right. i mean what. How quest that not correct. I'm saying you're saying one thing ryan saying another find as always. We're never going to get results from this election. Exactly what's going to happen in pennsylvania. Somebody like ryan getting involved alright. So votes mark stoops drew. What about you. I think john calipari is the obvious answer. Mark stoops has been great. He will be difficult to replace. But there will be no shortage of people wanting a job in the sec. In mark stoops has now shown that it can be done here. I think it'll be a little little easier to higher in the future with what he's done in coach cow. I just don't think anybody will be able to do. He's done off the court. You have to have that persona. You've twenty four seven job and not. Many people are willing to do that. As we learned with billy g.'s. So i think how will be impossible to replace all right. So you're going that means shannon. You are the final and the electoral college. John perry marston. I think i understand the question. I've listened to citizen. Franklin and citizens. I think the guy who would be hardest to replace it had the same amount of success. He's had here would be stoops on voting for stoops. Wow john calipari left kentucky basketball would be okay. Cloud doesn't come back. I tell you. I think you guys are crazy. I'm withdrew. i mean. It doesn't matter. Because i made the electric youth three so the answer is going to be mark stoops but to me other people can have success kentucky but not like i mean cow has wanted a level. I know we only have one title. But we've won more games than the school. We've out recruited every oh school stoops has done an amazing job but drew or two and four this year. If you guys could have gotten us to be two and four. I think he's able to recruit unlike anyone else could recruit here. But you know i mean. There's a lot of coach. I i think you could find somebody to sustain this program. Let me put a different way ryan. How much better. Stoops been than rich brooks. He's been better but not that much better. Stoops gonna end up being the second best football coach. We've ever. I totally agree with that interesting. You guys that was our selection. Let me since. I mention rich brooks drew a lead off with you here. Who was the better coach at the university of kentucky. You can't you're out for rich brooks or tubby smith. Oh man i lean tubby because he has a national championship. But i don't know know. I'm thinking out loud here. What rich bricks. What rich do pretty impressive. Even though it was the music city bowl. That's you had never done anything like that. I'm still gonna go into much for the same reason of what drew just said. I gotta go tubby. He has a championship. We count championships all right right. Yeah i think it's definitely tubby i mean. I don't think even rich brooks had a winning record and the sec. During his tenure here. So i i definitely tubby unanimous. I'm gonna vote. I would vote toby too. I would just note this though. We've had a lot of coaches when a national championship here. I mean rich brooks took us from nothing to success and how many coaches have had a lot of success in football. Not as mid all right. Finally who was a better player at the university of kentucky shannon. You lead. John wall randall. Cobb who man. That's a great with us the toughest one yet out of these three just at uk just that uk. Wall randall. cobb. I am going to say john wall because of what happened after that. Not not with his playing career. But that sort of when he came in and play kentucky kentucky cool again it got the recruiting momentum going. I felt like for calipari. I'm going. John wall john wall right. I want to go randall. Cobb i think even brandon nights season was better than john. Wall season at kentucky. If you look at the numbers and the play on the court. So i'm gonna go randall. Cobb all right to franklin. I'm going randall. Cobb and it is not even close for me. Randall cobb a believe was all. Sec freshman then first team. All sec has next two years won some games that kentucky football never one without him wall was good but he's on a loaded team and they fell short in the end. So i'm easily going here at multiple positions. Yeah shannon. Just so you know. They're both insane okay. Can i want to remind them of something. I believe shannon. If i'm correct. John wall was named national player of the year. That's my right about that. Or he didn't win all the awards but he won one of one. They yell for up award they. I'm not sure. Shane and you tell me did randall. Cobb get named national player of the year. I don't remember. I don't think so i don't know i'm just i'm just i'm just asking. Yeah they were the number one overall seed in the ncaa tournament did randall. Cobb team have a winning record in the sec. No no they didn't. I thought we said who is better. Now what team was better. It's correct but you but you got but you specifically in terms of deciding randall. Cobb downgraded john walls team. Said they didn't win. So if you're going to make team part of it then i'll make team part of it and say yes. John wall had a lot of success. Randall had success. But we've had a lot of teams have the success randall's did i love randall. Cobb national player of the year. You know what. I mean national players of the year. We had ryan in the history of the school. Not many not many. I think like four. And he was one of it three or four it. So i'm gonna be randall cobb. We've had in history of the school. We've not many but we've not had national player of the year. I mean i would say. I love rain. Okapis he one of the four or five best players to play here yes. I don't know he be close. I think they're actually if you're terms of ranking with programs they're probably similar wall was national player of the year so but anyway the winners of the electorate we have tubby smith better coach. Surprising to me we will. It'll be more difficult to replace mark. Stoops and randall cobb. Better than john wall. We'll take a break be right back. Five zero two. Five seven one eighty. It is election day here on. Sr talked about jones. And the crew called the clark's pup and shop online at five zero two five seven one ten eighty or one eight seven seven nine four hundred eighty or so does the kentucky brandit tweet of the day by twenty matt at y sports radio minute now for more news of the blue kentucky sports radio on talk radio tanny quarterback sports radio five to five seven one eighty at kyi sports radio. Seven seven seven four five two five four one person writes matt. take it easy on your co host. You ask everybody's opinion and then you tell them they're all shannon exactly. That's what i do. That's that's what the show is we. Yeah we need you at the polls today goes up and votes for trump. What are you doing man. are you first of all. That's why they don't let people get in within one hundred feet so people don't do that. What the debate is you. Sit there and you had people say if we had a radio show. Everybody just gave their opinion. Nobody countered it would be bored election. Debate well with both intellectually debate. I love these debates though. These kids creates a lot of good conversation about that. We all know an an opinion on all right. How about this one person writes matt. How about you vote on. This should any grand be the offensive coordinator next year. Who ryan limit you go first. Yes this whole eddie. Grand thing is starting to make me mad about. Why does it make you mad. I mean yes. He'll call bad play here there and i think he called a bad game at missouri. We just forget about the last couple of years and what he did with. Lynn boden last year and having to readjust. He's whole offense and things that he's done the past couple of stevie johnson and terry wilson. I think he's done a good job. Yes does he make mistakes. Wants to while. Yes we already know. What if four games from now. The offense hasn't gotten one outta better. Does that change at all. Yes then maybe we can debate at that point so you actually would say though. If that's your point then you would say. He's coaching for his job. In the next four games. I think right now offense is is not doing well. It's no secret. I think lot it. As i've said it a thousand times already about our wide receivers and i don't know what our quarterback is supposed to do when i get any better in the next four game so the court will then have. Do you expect the offense to look better adila. They they gave the balls much. Could chris. rodriguez was on georgia which was thankfully made the right decisions at these should have done. They should have done. It gets missouri. So i just want to be clear. You're saying that eddie. Gran is coaching for his job. In the next four games and you expect to see better improvement. But i don't see how we're going to see better improvement like how are these guys going to get better. We're just gonna have to just go again. We've done in the past couple of years. And i think and just rely on are running game and play the receivers. I think that's the only choice. I think we've got. Especially we've got alabama and florida stares right in the face come out the next couple of weeks A personal rights drew was not here yesterday. So i want his take on the kogyo bears dude punching the guy. Did you see the explanation that the bears guy drew said the saints dude. Spit on him. But they've broken down the tape and it sure does look like a spit ever occurred the saints guy. Said he didn't say it they ended up suspending him for two games drew. It's a pretty harsh punishment. I saw garner. Johnson rip off the guys mouthpiece also instigated a little bit. But i don't know that ripping off mouthpieces worse getting punched in the head like that. I i heard you. i'm kind of like you. I don't know what you're trying to accomplish punching anyone with a helmet on. Seems you hurt yourself. But that was wild. I couldn't believe what i was watching it. And i'm fine with two game suspension. That seems about right now. What you think getting your mouthpiece ripped out with hurt more than punch helmet on. It was just hanging from his mouth dangling from his face masks there. Yeah yeah. I still think. Something's kind of i mean. I still believe that dude's gotta have something wrong with him because the thing that makes it psycho to me is how long it took. You know what. I mean like like the fact that he sat out for fifteen minutes like psychotic behavior shannon can take normal things that make them crazy. I'm gonna give you an example. I came home a few days ago. There was a note left on my door from somebody. I am not even going to read what it said. Because it's like a conspiracy theory thing but what made me sort of feel weird about it is that it was written half in red and half black You see what i'm saying. You're thinking that psychopathic behavior. Well it's one thing if you ride and first of all how this not somebody i know. They don't sign it right. Yeah and it's one thing to write it. But when you write it half in red marker and half in black marker that me takes a normal act and makes it a little bit psychotic. Maybe as red marker ran out you had to go to the next color. Why is it every other word. Oh you didn't okay. I thought you wrote like a paragraph in red in a paragraph blurb now this is like don't get me wrong. It wasn't like threatening. This was like somebody wants me to know some information. Unlv into a lack of black veil fan wasn't bleed to yeah first thing. I thought i'd let me. Here's what my singer this picture. Send the three of you. All this picture you send it. You're going to see why can't say what's on it. And i want you guys to look at it and tell me what if you think that looks like so like what you think about. As as i'm waiting for my point is to say drew the fact that he waited that period of time before he punched him to me is more. Concerning than the fact he punk had ripta's chain and throwing the punch seconds after losing his mouthpiece reaction but you had time to calm down and think about what you were going to do that. He went out there and kind of lazily ran ran. The office of play and then went. Straight for gardner johnson. As soon as he could definitely psycho behavior. There wire digging up that no one. I've seen note in the first thing. I thought was looked like a ransom. Note before i read any words does does. So what do you think about it. Yeah that's a psychopathic. i mean. Even if it was all in the same color that. But you know what i mean. It's not about me. So that's why i was like normally if i'd gotten this and it was about me. I might've even called the police. Yeah but it's not about me ryan. What do you think about it. You're a calm person that that letter seems to be written by somebody that i would be scared of a little bit just the way. It's written the handwriting. Yeah that's that's scary. Well now why you trying to scare me well like i said it's not about you. That's he sounds scared. Very scared now ryan scared me. And i wasn't scared i wasn't scared. Why why are you scared me. I wasn't scared. Just that whole letter is reeks of somebody. That's a little unbalanced. Well now that. I'll actually agree with you. Yes well anyway. Explain me down to five seven one today. We're gonna do the giveaway hundred bucks when we return. If you would like to win from the breeders cup we'll do a little trivia contest show and some news on the champions classic is it. is it done. We got some worrisome news on the first game season. We'll be right back. Have you heard about propane. Taxi propane tanks. Propane grill tank. Home delivery service and it's ridiculously easy to order a propane grow tank delivered right to your door. Now's the perfect time of year to get outside and grill with family and close friends or heat up the patio. Make sure you've got propane for any occasion. Go to propane. Taxi dot com. 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Just that note is just like it's just one of those weird notes you see in a horror about me though that's correct. It's not about shoes. i'm not scared for you. Who's outside is that who you're scared for. No let's just just an unbalanced person out there. Well there you go. That was really artistic. By the way if they're listening chain and that was ryan that said that. Yeah yeah just for the record. One person writes met. I kind of feel like any grant has become like jim hosts for ryan. He defends him all the time. Is he scared of him. Like he is jim host. No i just. I think if you just look at our offense. I don't think it's eddie grants fault. I think it's obvious what the problem is. The place that he's calling. Its but at some point you do have to adjust and we're getting. I think you giving this week. These two weeks and say we have to see drew. A better offense against vandy we actually we have to. Oh for sure invades terrible. So if you don't see improvement that it's really concerning yes all right so we've got. The breeders cup has money. We're giving it away. We got five people on there shannon. Who's up first bob. Jamestown of court house bobby. Jamestown the first person to get in the party. Yesterday's contest unbelievable. So bob is there bob. How're you doing okay. Mad all right. What's your what's your take on. That florida missouri. I love you bob. I love when you call. You can't win the contest. Okay you're regular. You can't win the contest. So i i appreciate the call. We'll get to florida missouri. That just no no bob. I love bob shannon. But he can't be part of the contest. He's like all right. oh. I didn't know. I thought we were getting regular avenue people. So let me know bob alright. So who are the. Who's the next brad brad brad. Hey i'm from bowling. Green brand bowling green. Who's vacation brad. Jason jason where are you live nicholasville. Senegal's villa whose neck robert robert. Where are you pretty how you doing where. Where do you live. Jellico tennessee jellico tennessee. Right across the mountain. whose neck are you. okay with. Eighty eighty fat eighty. Where are you again. Thanks fake and can you give a shout out to our sheriff. John his burned down and i did. I heard that very sorry to hear them. Yes i'm very sorry to hear that. The sheriff in floyd county there. His house burned down last night. Our prayers go out to him. That's news okay. Here we go. Here's the game. Here's what you have to name. We'll start with you brad. A uk football player that played at kentucky under mark stoops but is not on the team now. Does that make sense. Yes you football player under. Mark stoops. Not on the team. Now do not cheat. Or i will you will disqualify you with my brain power brad. Go adrian middleton from south high school you really led off with. Adrian middleton all people to lead off. Adrian middleton jason often again. All right robert eighty nine bowdoin. Alright brad stevens johnson. Jason joe joe robert jones. Cody jones fullback there from one hundred mark stoops breakers senior here from wiley candy. Do you know cody jones. Drew mattis fact nice. Well done jellico tennessee. Getting kelly jones idiot and josh josh allen brag Re oh god. It's part of Mark smith shoot. Sorry smith is out. Brad has gone. Sorry brad jason. You got one jeff. Debt robert wong like bone eighty and three baker. Ed dorian door baker. I'll take a look at eighty coming through shane. I thought she was going to say baker mayfield. I was worried about got and baker. Jason three into one. John toth is right robert johnson. I think somebody already said that. Didn't they yeah. They did robert. Nice job jellicoe easy. I can't believe eighty still in it. Eighty was going to get to the finals. Eighty can you say in or dirt. They bailey bailey or day. Failure diet their daily dirks bailey. Circus bentley the country singer. Now i know who. She's trying to say eighty eighty in bady. There is a baby. I'll tell you what if you can get the first name. I'll give it to you. You're close their eke there. Where are you reading these eighty. No i don't think she's reading it or not she says tariq who says she was reading it. I don't think she'd say derique. Because it spelled pretty much like derek gotta go to the polls does eighty get to the next round ryan yes shannon. Yes all right that's good. Let's go to jason go barker. Derek barker is not a personal hang on derek. You marker eating if you get one right. One of the biggest upsets down to disqualify. That's definitely not a player. Eighty how they play very spicy rely on. I eighty with eighty with the cuss word. Here's what we're going to talking about. poop. Johnson there's we're gonna do here's what we're gonna do because i think that i think we've got. We've got some controversy. We're down to two jason. And here's what i'm gonna do to make it easier. I'm gonna say somebody who plays on. Uk's defense now right now on the team okay. Jason go beyond square easy. That's offense. I'm sorry. I say eighty thousand performance though. I think we have to give it a round of applause. Come on and why didn't she just go with cash daniel. She said it. Nobody had said cash now around. You said when you said cash. We him yet. You would've won yes man. That's not a. I'll tell you what i've got five hundred dollars to give away today shannon. Yeah why don't give them both one hundred come on go. I think i'll give a hundred dollars. Jason and nicholasville and eighty and presence bird. Both of you hang on. Because i'm gonna need to get your address is. Shane is going to have to get him. Okay oh okay. Eating say matt barker. You're good. You're i don't know what a since you said. Okay hang on jason you okay. Eighty yeah thank you. We're glad to help. We'll take a break five. Oh five seven one tonight. Hang on eighty. Don't hang up. We'll take a break. Gary back kentucky. Sports radio more the blue lights across the bluegrass county. County virtual tour presented by the kentucky office of highway safety after this to talk to matt jones. And the crew. Called the clark's pump and shop phone line at five zero two five seven one eighty or one eight seven. Seven nine four eighty. You're listening to kentucky sports radio on talk radio tanny sports radio this segment sponsored by trusted choice when it comes to insurance you need to make sure you have the right coverage at the lowest possible so you oughta trusted choice if you own a business. You need insurance. If you need personal insurance the nobody can help you like trusted choice. Independent agent that researches multiple carriers to find the best plan for you so if you need car auto health whatever they'll look at it and then there you go go trusted. Choice dot com. It's trusted choice. Dot com a kentucky independent agent. Ready to do what's right for you. I enjoyed that. I enjoyed that segment chain and i thought that game actually turned out better than most of our games and yeah did and eighty more than held her own. She was really impressive in that context oppressed by outdrew. I didn't know. I didn't know if he would know any of the players and she came through and even got derique or derek beatty necessarily well even earned so little dump button so i mean cycle. There said she in the former player contest. She mentioned cash daniel but then she she. She was that close to winning it overall if she'd gone with her instinct and said cash daniel. Well that's good though. We have jason and ears are winner. So we'll give we still have three hundred dollars to give away and the rest of the show. I got a note ryan from someone listening. Who also kind of is a public figure. And they said they've gotten the same note so that actually makes me better. You see what i'm saying like it's not just that they're trying to give it to other people good so this person just going around town and leaving it on people's windows car windows should that make me feel better or no. I've i've gotten something like that before. All right so champions classic drew there was a story. Yesterday it's a little bit scary by the way couple of open lines five. Oh five seven one today champions classic right now. They're not sure where it's going to happen or even for sure if it's going to happen they can't find a place to play it they were gonna play it in indianapolis but they're not sure they can get the arena on the date. They want it because they're still waiting on the nba schedule. There's some talk that half that they might just play the games on campus. That michigan state state may go to duke and play the game there and kansas and kentucky might decide to play it on one of their home courts because they're worried they can't get a facility for the event it sounds like they're definitely play it. But would you rather see the game either in lawrence or up or would you rather see the neutral side in a year where it's unlikely many people would be able to go and that normal fun weekend. A lot of the fans have to start off the season. I'd rather just play it at one of the campuses and honestly i would rather play at kansas. Because i'm thinking they might make it a two year thing enough pleaded out in my head that next year that would send duke to lexington so that is what. I'm rooting for abc. Because duke wouldn't host twice so duke would be the away team next year in next year's win kentucky duke. So i've kind of convinced myself they'll do it two years. Everybody gets a home game in kentucky but hope hope host duke next season. Well or the the the yeah well. They've already said the game would be at duke. So i think actually drew has done some good mental gymnastics there because if kentucky kansas ends up being a home arena if we play duke next year and they're already hosting this year then really the only way it can work ryan is if we go to kansas. I completely made that up in the shower this actually. I think you're right about that. That makes sense. Like 'cause the article said michigan state would go to do in this scenario. Yes if we played duke next year then the only way if it's a two year home and home that it works ryan is if we were to go to duke which means or. Excuse me if we were at home duke. So that would mean ryan. We would have to go to kansas this year. Boy cal would hate that though. I mean if cal loses a neutral site game to have to go play in lawrence. Kansas which he hates going to anyway ryan. He would despise bad result. He would be the alternative. Is you go to kansas and play as with what three thousand dollars. It's not going to be the the fog. Yeah it's just gonna have three thousand fans and then you get to host duke with maybe this time next year. A full capacity at rupp. That's true so that's that's a good point. What would you rather do. Would you rather hosts kansas this year with three thousand. Go to duke next year or would you rather go to kansas with three thousand host duke through. You're always going to pick the ladder of those two right. Yeah kansas down a little bit this year. I mean there's still good but it's not like they have. Some elite teams in kentucky is more of an elite team so he might have been when both in this scenario. Well they're still wanna play it in indianapolis and their articles seem to suggest if it didn't get announced today or tomorrow in indianapolis than it wouldn't happen in indianapolis. We might find out today if it's going to be an indianapolis. Brian also goes to show how these games are all up in the air. I mean i've been told kentucky's opening the season not with the champions classic or any of those games in the season with three stinky teams in rub. The first three games of the year are going to be hartford. Detroit and in morehead. Are you good with that. Yeah i think this year. We're probably be able to just play any whoever we can win every weekend. It may be like week by week if somebody asked fall out. Game somewhere somehow. I think that. I think that could happen right. I mean think about again with the rules that if you get one positive tests you have to sit out two weeks. There might be a scenario where you're scheduled to play a team. They can't play. And you just go pick somebody else up. Yeah coach kyle said on that media zoom last week that they have backup opponents ready at least. Uk does really that not every program would have that luxury but uk plan. Well let's smart no and that's a great thing about being. Uk is to be honest with you. You'll be able to get a game no matter what like everybody would wanna play here right so you could. If we lose a game finding ryan finding makeup should not be a problem true. Yeah you're just gonna have to find somebody that's not in quarantine is free that time. Hey column on the phone. Hey we're free you're free and you come over all right. Let's do it boom. It is crazy that the first game of the season as of right now a scheduled to be wednesday november. The twenty fifth the day before thanksgiving. That is three weeks from now and we still don't have a schedule. Don't have schedule born arena. And you know that the The the officials referees their schedule upshur all in limbo and their travel schedules. And everything. i mean there's a lot that goes into all this. That is amazing that you don't have a schedule three weeks in all right shannon. Who's up next. Let's go to michael michael. Michael met I was kinda thinking about your own. Assessment of any grant seems a little off. It was just two years ago. That georgia one ill as all the coordinator and now we're ready to throw the baby out with bathwater. Why first of all when you say my sassen eddy. Grant should be fired. But i do think that he has to show improvement over the next few weeks and he has to show at least an ability to i mean what he did. Amazingly last year was catering offense to a set of players that he didn't think would be the players at the beginning of the year. We just haven't seen that happen this year to be honest with you. And that's what's pointed that makes sense but it also seems like nobody wanted to get your. Didn't want to get rid of terry wilson. Because he beat tennessee before anyone the also coordinator during all that i totally. It's also the entire saying there's no well. Listen i agree with you. I mean but i think we learned. I think we learned when joey gatewood play last week. That the issue is not the quarterback. I mean whether you would think terry should play. Joey should play. That's not the difference. The difference is i think ryan is hit the biggest differences the receivers and then. I don't think we've been completely connecting On on the game plays this year on the play calling. It just hasn't been what it's been the last couple of years. Yes and makes it so if we watch you Watch the w k y t from hazard. How did we get a hold of that if we're not it's on w. i am t dot com or if it's youtube tv it'll be on that and i think what might even have like an app on roku or something like that. I'll tweet out the link. I'll be on at five thirty and at the top of every hour until they've called a winner so it appreciate it. I've got this thing here drew. I mean i don't know this at this thing you don't heavy set up yet your life. I mean they've got like a tripod and then there's a light a circle light and you put your phone on it and you hold it up and it's just. I know i'm not going to be able to do this. I think you got. It can't be that difficult bunch of equipment. I'm shooting it on my phone. Like i mean it's crazy. If you think about it chain in that in that you can do a television show from your phone. Yeah kinda scary. I am not so sure. How the quality is going to be on the though. It's better than it is computer like that camera. You have on your phone. Somebody told me this the camera you have on your phone if you have. The most updated iphone is better than the tv cameras that were used in the early nineties. Probably so max is like a movie quality camera it. I mean you were working. In tv then ryan. Do you think that's correct. Yeah like when you pull the the old video from the nineties and you have to use it now on tv you look at it. It's all kind of grainy and compared to the video. Shoot down your camera. it is better. Yeah well when you watch it tonight. I've had to move a lot of candles shannon to get this and help the lighting as soon as we can have mood light. It's back you can back light your own setting with a much of candles behind you. They were telling me the races that i need to be ready to talk about. And one of them is the race ryan. Where the two guys running against each other and one of them's named johnny turner and the other one's named johnny ray turner couple of country singer. There's a there's a state house race and the two people running a guys named john turn johnny turner and he's running against a guy named johnny writer. It sounds like alter ego that goes out on the weekends. Yeah tear down johnny rae. Let's go party boys. So you mean like johnny party is business in the front johnny race party in the back. Yeah john nine to five work. But johnny ray on the weekends. He's out about making it happen. Tom hart just wrote me. 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In The Gate #407 - Santa Anita Recovers
"Hi there. Julie Foudy here. Use was silly enough to give me the green light on a podcast, and it's called laughter. Permitted. We talk to these awesome trailblazers in sports about the joy and chaos of life such as Kerri Walsh Jennings. Simone byles Mia Hamm, so gig, comfortable loose soon after permitted and so is best singing support for laughter. Permitted comes from ally. You and settle for a two star spin class a personal trainer, would you? So why settle for Bank that treats you just like another number? Ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that. And with ally Bank. You'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average you can chat with real people twenty four seven, and they won't nutmeg you with hidden fees allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money so go to A L L Y dot com for more ally Bank, member FDIC. See? Have begun taking to the track at Santa Anita in the morning, but not yet in the afternoon. An update on the condition of the racing surfaces is straight ahead, plus the effect of the disruption on one of the most overlooked horsemen's groups jockeys agents, how do you book rides when there's no racing. We'll have all that and more on this edition of indicate. Two zero seven. This is in the gate ESPN's. Thoroughbred racing podcast. My name is Barry Abrams. You can follow me on Twitter at be Abrams boys or on Facebook at Barry Abrams voice. You can also get us on our YouTube channel by searching in the gate podcast. You can get us on soundcloud as well. Get us at the. I tuned store or tune in dot com. You can get us on that little pink pod. Catcher f on your phone. You didn't even know you had a now you can subscribe to win the gate in the listen tab of the ESPN app for the full in the gate experience of scribe now in the listen tab of the ESPN app light training on the main track. At Santa Anita has resumed no timed breezes, but some jogging and stretching of legs. The daily racing form reports that racing will resume on Thursday, March twenty second that date is contingent of course, on the results of additional safety inspections the team conducting those inspections is led by Dr Mick Peterson of the university of Kentucky co-founder of the racing surfaces testing laboratory, and we're pleased to welcome. Dr. Peterson back here to in the gate now, let's point out that we're recording this on Monday night, March eleventh what have you found so far? Well, the thing is that risk horses. Always multi factor Orioles. So our goal on this whole process is to improve the track to whatever extent we can. I mean looking at 'cause at this point is not even productive. What we've gotta do is. We've got to get better. And you you look the spate of injuries. And you know, it's completely unacceptable. I mean, we can't do this. And so we're doing is we're looking at absolutely every option, and that doesn't matter whether it's the feature be and Rick Arthur and the coin medical director looking at the horses in my case, my expertise is the track and I'm providing whatever information I can see HR be to the track. And then we're just trying to get better at this point. Because. We can't keep doing this. We'll right. But I mean, I know you're you're looking for every option, but when you go into something like this you have to have a game plan. And after your first visit out here. Proclaiming the surfaces. Okay. What are you even looking for? Well, the first assumption. We went into was that. There was segregation the material. And so with the rains what happened, and you don't see this so often in California, you see a lot in the east coast or or even the mid west will live at is the fine material go towards the inside rail. And so what we did was even before we were doing the testing that was when Andy peel back the surface. He inspected the base and then by peeling back the surface and remixing it you eliminate the segregated material at this point overdoing is we're making sure and we did tests we took seven samples and did. Tests by the time we were done with the test. We did not see a lot of variation our first sumptuous spatial variation. We want every step to be consistent, and we did not see spatial variation in it when we went back looked at it. So at that point, we have to go back and look at the other thing that we had out there was they had gone ground penetrating radar swimming, more make sure that the layers have been laid down well, and obviously after he'd peeled back. There was some variation. But we followed up with the ground penetrating radar and eliminated that so we've got a consistent surface with a consistent composition. What dentist has done is? He is gone ahead after we closed again or close completely dentist has gone back. And we mix the entire surface, and there's an engineer out there. Now, he's been using the biomechanical surface Esther as well as ground penetrating radar to make sure that he gets everything lay down. So he's remixed surface again. And brought up for the prime material from down below. So we're at the same time. We're continuing to do tests on this end to make sure that we can match this year string one of the advantage is that at Santa Anita. We've got a huge amount of baseline information. This is one of the dozen tracks in the country where we have had a full set of tests on every six months, and it Santa Anita. It's going on for well, it's been going on since they've had the dirt track. We did it for the synthetic track. But obviously not relevant. So that's what we're trying to benchmark it too. At the same time. We've got look at all the other issues, you know, any horse related issues, and you know, that's not my expertise. But that's at the same time, given the pack that it's multifactorial we have to look at the track saved time. We're looking at courses. Now, it's easy to say southern California's had roughly seventeen inches of rain since October. I normally L A gets fifteen inches for an entire three hundred sixty five day calendar year. And that's why there's such a problem. Now, what do you say to making the weather a scapegoat? Well, that's not a solution. We get a lot of rain in New Orleans. We handle it there and one of the challenges for the industry the industry needs to step up. I'm not gonna defend the industry on all this because there needs to be a more systematic approach to how we maintain tracks. What I've seen consistently is that when we have unusual weather. It's a challenge for the tracks. So that would be a dry period at Gulfstream or fairgrounds or this your Churchill or a rainy period at Sunland park or Senator Nita. That seems to me like that's a training and communications piece, and and and and and the industry at this point needs to step up and make sure that everybody has what they need. Dennis Moore is a huge advantage out there because he remembers the years when they had a lot more rain in southern California thirty years ago now, but that's no solution either. I mean something apple then it's more. We need to be able to duplicate those skills. And I think that's what we're looking at right now is we're dependent on my technology combined. But then it's more skills, and we need to duplicate that and bring that to the other tracks. You know, we make progress in some areas and in other areas, it seems like you know, we have one bad year. And it seems like we're we're back in the battle days, and that to me is a lack of training lack of information lack of communication. We're talking here on negate with Dr Mick Peterson whose team is conducting the track inspections. Santa Anita that facility remains closed for racing until March twenty second. Now there were twenty one fatalities at the track since the start of the Santa Anita meet the day after Christmas, we all know that of course, most of the talk has been about whether something's amiss on the main dirt track, but four of those twenty one deaths for on the turf course, how much attention are you paying to the turf what we've done is we step back and looking at the turf track that also again suggests that we've got a broader issue rather than just remixing the dirt in the dirt on the main track. We we need to look at the turf track. Santa Anita has committed instituting a more complete monitoring system on their turf track. They've got a quite an experience superintendent on the turf is named Jesse. And he does a terrific job. But again, I'm not sure how much experience he has with this, much rain. And I think strana group has done a good job there reconsidering when they take. Braces off the turf, and you know, that's obviously a challenge for the for them point Anchalee. But it's also a challenge to be closed. They been now let's say you conduct all of your tests your team conducts all of the tests and wind up finding nothing unusual going on with either the dirt or the turf course, which is where you seem to be trending. You know that if and when you break that news to Santa Anita officials, and eventually the public that news will be taken two ways. Glad to hear the tracks are considered safe. But also, what could be causing these deaths is there's something darker going on here. So how it is that color the way you'll present your findings to them. Well, I guess the best case of that was you know, a few years ago we had another spate of injuries at aqueduct. And what I think is success at naira at point was we didn't find anything. With the track. And so Naro doubled down on the amount of data that they were taking the track to see if there was something. We're missing a clear example of that is we need to be measuring moisture content during races and not just once a day. And what I think is really one of the biggest challenges is pursue pretendants is when you've got a floated track that you're running on at what time do you open that when do you make the transition to a hero track right now, they're not even a information aside from race times? And just observation, you know, we need to give them more tools. And let me tell you another the other group that needs more tools than the the track needs to provide more information. That's the trainers. The trainers are having to make decisions about the fitness of their horses. And if the speed of the track varies dramatically from day to day to moisture content. That's not an easy decision for them. And they're still trying to get the orces ready for. The races. So by providing more information to the trainers. You know, there's some trainers just have a feel for it. And you probably don't need to give them more information. They have the judgment. But there's a lot of them if you'll give them more information, and they learn to integrated into their training routine. We can help bring the horses up to the right level of fitness and not over train them. So it's really the responsibilities on me from the technology side of the tracks. From the information site to provide more information to help support the trainers to do their job to to predict the horses and get them ready for races hinted at a number of potential improvements that could be made in the way tracks are maintained and the information communicated. Do you think there is a greater good for the industry that will come out of this? Or will this be considered a case specific situation? Every indication to me is I'm hopeful that we're going to get better. Now, you should call me back in. Month, and or or two months, and if we haven't made any progress, I will tell you because, you know, this isn't when I signed up for I'm engineer, I'm not a horseman, and you know, I got into this to protect the animal and to protect the ride or and by protecting the horses and the riders that takes a commitment by the industry. I've seen every indication that strana group is moving in the right direction. And that there's other players in the industry that are supportive, but you know, attention is is something that's transient. And and and I appreciate your concern because I'm concerned too. Dr Mick Peterson of the university of Kentucky co-founded the racing surfaces testing laboratory in his part of the team working to make Senate and Nita safer than it is now thank you so much for a few minutes for sharing this with us. And we look forward to hearing more updates. Thank you. How would you like to put rides for a jockey based at Santa Anita right now. Other than the fact that there's no racing. What's the problem? We'll talk with the agent for floppy on Pratt about how they're dealing with this right after the break. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll living, most of her life in the dock inside the other nesting Dole's. He has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when in a most nesting dole, his the gyco not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to Geico is a no brainer in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life. Welcome back to the podcast. It was supposed to be a blow out weekend. At Santa Anita with the big cap and the San Felipe bay as the headliners on a big stakes weekend but on Saturday March night. Mario Gutierrez was riding in Arkansas. Mike Smith was in New York and flabby on Pratt. Who's one six graded stakes? This year wasn't writing. In fact, he hasn't ridden a race since March third right before the great race place suspended racing for two weeks. Now think about it in many businesses nowadays. There are almost always work arounds. Maybe you can work from home. If something's missing the office. Maybe you travel a lot for your job. So if one or two clients drop, you you simply move onto the others. But in the racetrack world, there are jockey colonies, the group of regulars who don't just ride the big stakes but all the daily races that allow people to make a living. It's not really feasible for a jockey in California to bring his tack to Arkansas for two full weeks. And try to take rides away from the rest of the colony big stakes days or different those are one day things. So how do jockeys and their agents cope when there's a disruption like the one at Santa Anita? Usually we like talking with the riders themselves on this show. They're the ones you all know. But I think we'll learn more by chatting with a jockey's agent. So since we mentioned flabby on Pratt. Let's chat with his agent. Derek lawson? Thanks so much for being here. Hearing that news that the track would be closed must have been like Marvin the Martian saying, oh, don't mind the earth. It'll be gone in just a few minutes at blocks. My view of Venus like you just assume the earth is always going to be there and thanks to Bugs Bunny. It still is floppy on. And you must assume that Santa Anita will be racing. So what did you think when you heard what was happening, right? And that's the point is at the first half of the year. The the challenge of Joel. Dario coming out to southern California has just boost our competitive spirits and Jesus and against. Writing really well, and I've been finding him good horses to ride. So it's been a good a good two months. Now, we're. March. But nonetheless hearing that news that the track would be closed must have been like Marvin the Martian saying, oh, don't mind the earth. It'll be gone just a few minutes, at blocks, my view of Venus. I mean, just like you assume the earth is always going to be there and thanks to Bugs Bunny. It still is floppy on a new must assume that Santa Anita will be there, of course. And unfortunately, we've had an unprecedented amount of rain that took place we lost at the time. When all this rain was falling. Dennis Moore decided to not work at Santa Anita anymore. So there was a new individual taking over possibly between the race track management and the people in charge of the racetrack. They may have made some mistakes, but they'll get it organized. It's like anything else they received the criticism it stings, but they're on their way back. They're working their way back track looks outstanding. And so the problem we'll get. We'll get rectified what did floppy on any other writer with whom you've come in contact and the other horsemen with whom you've come in contact say about the condition of the track. Did they ever say? Hey, this might not be so good right now. It happened the last week and a half. Because Fleming was never complaining about the track or anything else. But in the last week and a half he felt that the bottom was very hard. And remember, it's a clay type of dirt and mixture that they have and the more rain and more was packed down the Klay gone a harder and harder. So that was concerned that was a concern. Well, you obviously a love horses are the caretaker of a man who makes his living with his body. So how concerned have you been about all this? That's been going on. Well, fortunately, no horse than fly. All yeah. Actually, you know, what she did ride one worse at growth down. Now that I remember a horse of Leonard Powell's. So that horse did get put down. I can't give you the name right off the bat, but he was on one horse. Fortunately, he was able to pull that or some and the he didn't follow it. But unfortunately for the horses life was lost. So there is a concern. Absolutely. My suffered with one injury that Flavian had four years ago. So yeah, that's a major concern. And it's also not only a major concern for jockeys. It's the exercise writers in the morning as well who can get hurt. And then they're they lose their income as well. So there is a concern the people that own the horses they have a vested interest financially and emotionally in their horses. They were also stung, so it's not like, we're just, you know, wiping, the slate clean. No. There's going to be some new regulations that are gonna be put in you have to contact this new task force. You're going to have to tell them, you're. Working the following day. They will have a right to come over and take a look at the horses before they work, and they'll also have the right to tell you know, you're not working the worst for something wrong with your horse. So that's something that's going to be. We're all going to have to understand and work with. It's a new beginning. Now on what was supposed to be Santa Anita handicap day big cap day. I saw Mike Smith writing in New York on a day that had stakes but not a blockbuster day. I saw Mario Gutierrez riding in Arkansas. Had you tried to get floppy on rides out of town. Yeah. I did. I tried to go to right Tampa Bay. We tried to go ride Todd Pletcher horse in the Tampa Bay derby. He at the last moment decided to views Joel Rosario at the time when I was hustling around I ended up getting on a on seven horses in Florida. But when Flavian, and I started looking at the horses that we were supposed to ride there's the type of horses that we haven't been writing all your long. So I called up the Stewart. And we took off of those horses in Florida for last Saturday and Sunday. So there was an opportunity to go ride. But I just thought thought that staying home was are better option because we were able to work can talk who's going to run into steak. We were we were able to work Bella FINA. We also were for Richard Mandella Omaha beach who worked really really well. So we use the time to get some of the horses that are coming up for the steaks ready to run and by working them, and they were all working at Los Alamos, which has an outstanding track. And Los Alameda said no problem. So I'm and by the way, Dennis Moore is in charge of Los Alameda. So I'm so you can tell you can you can know that the both all three racetracks in southern California are back under good hands again and good stewardship and leadership. Derek Lawson agent for jockey flabby on Pratt joins us here on in the gate. So I guess you've answered the question what we did. With our winter vacation. Let's. Change the topic salmon away, wait a minute pair. There's no vacation. You kidding me? We were we I woke up and picked up phlegm in at four thirty in the morning, we drove to low south. He was on his first force. In fact, we got there so early that they turned on the lights at the racetrack in Los Alamos. So we can we would be able to see that we were working. So there was no vacation. I didn't go anywhere. I stayed right here. I'm sure your wife, really appreciates that the thing is people have been talking a lot about the main track. But some of those fatalities occurred on the turf course to what if Lavi on another horseman you've encountered said about the turf course, that's never been a problem for us as far as a condition of the track. They didn't use it all that much. Obviously there are holes in certain spots. And remember with all the rain the track may not have been as firm as it has been in the past. But you're right. I think there were not sure exactly the run the number of fidelity that took place on the grass scores. But there. Were. Well, actually, I think there were a couple of major stake sources that unfortunately, got hurt and they lost their lives. So. Yeah, that was the problem as well. But again, the main focus and the main complaint that I was getting from Flavian was on the main track. And it was just basically because it was so firm deep the deep part of the track was very very hard. Well, wait a minute. We talked about this with Mick Peterson a few minutes ago. But if there was so much rain, how would the base be so firm? Because they kept floating the track and they kept keeping track from not draining down below. Okay. They kept packing. It down you down pack it down. And that's how you ended up getting the firmness on the on the on the base. I know he came through and did his studies and everything like that. But and they did the dig a little bit deeper to try to soften up the hard ground. But again, I'm not attract person. All I was doing was listening to what flavor in was telling me, and he did say that when the horses were were hitting. They were hitting some pretty firm bottom. Let's change topics to something a little bit happier. Takes the lead on the outside with his move feeling strong starting to rally from behind. He is just behind whipping Jay at the top of the stretch where Callahan opens up quickly putting away the top two Galileo and well clear, and you could find a telescope to find the competition behind gala land, whereas Galilee in his training. He worked twenty eight and to gallop down one on one. He's running in the rebel stakes at Oaklawn park. I believe flabby on Pratt is also the regular writer of vessel leaker facile IKA. The starting to launch a wide bed. She's within six lengths of the league gathering momentum. Top of the stretch behind Muira thought Salita motoring down the center of the Cortes midst bad behavior gets the lead. But here's thought leaker spamming home in the center of the course and Fussell leaker streak of luck continues at nights rally into second. But Fussell leak the story just keeps getting better as she wins. The point of history. After two stakes wins at this center. Anita meat for Vassiliko. What is next for her? Well, it's been a wonderful year. That was levian ten victory out of eleven starts her next race will be the Royal heroine close to the end of the meeting and she's been such a tremendous surprise. I what can I say Jerry Hall indoor for his done a really wonderful job in keeping her ready to run. I'll tell you what fled into me about three races back. He mentioned to me that vastly is making him a better writer because all she does is she asked him to get her to the top of the stretch and she'll get him home. So his responsibility with her is to maneuver her through the early part of the race and make sure that she's ready to. So when she sets it down that she's ready to go down the lane. And so far we've been pretty successful in that. But that was a quote from him is that she's made him a better better writer. Yeah. Usually, great coaches say that to be great coaches. They have great players. I would think the same is true for jockeys. Derek loss in the agent for jockey flabby on Pratt. Thanks so much for a few minutes. Thank you very much burying. Appreciate you giving us the time. All right. Thanks to Derrick Lawson. Dr Mick Peterson suspending racing at Santa Anita has garnered a lot of attention and many derisive comments. Did it bring non more alarming than an uninformed talk show host who wondered why horse racing is even still thing. It's clear that guy knows nothing of this thing, nor does he care to he makes his bones as an expert of all sports, but say what you want about on nip it and commentators in the media, people listened to them whether or not you believe there towards well. At least horse racing has an organization to counter this narrative to control the message before it gets this far with a leader who has credibility in our general sporting culture of go-to person with the charisma of a star overweight. I must have confused horse racing with every other sport with a centralized than structured already. It's bad enough. 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Major Moves in the Mountains: AppHarvest founder Jonathan Webb
"Hey guys my name is Amy Kuhnen and I am a millennial on a mission to eat clean cook dress and live more sustainably. It's because of that that I'm also the host of the town hall Rubicon I only podcast where we share sustainability stain ability stories from the industry's influencers and the biggest brands jam packed with tips tricks and needed no info for those that want to do better for the planet but may not know where to start. We are covering it all last year. We spoke to some incredible people who are doing doing some incredible things for our planet the Executive Director of the Leonardo Dicaprio Foundation The C._E._o.. Seven generation cleaning products and one of the brains behind environmental sustainability in the N._B._A.. This season or kicking it up a notch. Don't forget to download and subscribe on Itunes spotify or Iheartradio so that you don't miss a minute and if you can't catch us on your commute or you don't download directly don't stress you can check out our website at Rubicon global dot com slash townhall podcast for recaps reviews and all things townhall. Hey everyone welcome to another episode of the town hall today. I am joined by Jonathan Webb. He's the founder of APP harvest. It's a very cool company. They're bridging the gap gap between one of the oldest industries and some cutting edge tack but I'll let him talk more about that. Jonathan thank you so much for being here. Thank you for having me so. Let's just get right to it. Tell me a bit about you and how you got your start. You know your personal and Professional time-line event. How did you come up with this idea? Well Amy I grew up in Kentucky and places very important to me and <hes> ended up graduating from the University of Kentucky around two thousand and eight so so we all remember the the global financial crisis in at one point <hes> had the opportunity to pursue a career and potentially coal sales over in eastern Kentucky and did not do that and ended ended up moving to New York and <hes> pursued a career and solar development and since that time between two thousand eight and a couple of years ago before founding APP harvest. I was a part of developing some the largest solar solar projects in the southeast of the U._S.. <hes> was supporting a a White House. Initiative under the last administration were building large scale renewable projects on army land on what was a part of building the solar projects down in Georgia forbidding steward Gordon and just seeing the uptick of one industry the wind and solar industry that had that had taken off across this country over the past decade while also seeing the decline of coal on in the eastern part of the State of Kentucky. It was for me important to try to find a way to build large scale sustainable projects in the eastern part of our state and moving over from a large scale energy development to two large scale agriculture indoor agriculture specifically in this case with with Ab harvest that really being back in Kentucky has been refreshing again trying to bridge the divide of of all the capital in the brilliant and and bright minds are that we've seen go to work in the sustainable industry and try to try to get some of those folks over into into central Appalachia Eastern Kentucky and and hopefully this project is the start of that so now let's breakdown you know the APP harvest business model of how exactly is GonNa work right well. I've tried to say so. The country of the Netherlands is one third the size of Kentucky and landmass. We could fit the entire country the Netherlands in the. Eastern Kentucky yet the country has the second most agricultural exports in the world only behind the U._S.. The growing with incredible efficiency getting very high yield in very little inputs and so when when I was in D._C.. In working on the energy projects started to really unpack who is doing agriculture right around the world and when I started researching agriculture I kept getting lead back to the Netherlands in at this point. You know my my take on tech is we have great researchers and scientists all around the world and labs and in San Francisco and Boston trying to come up with the next big breakthrough in for my perspective it's about execution at scale and we have a lot of the right answers out there. In the world. We all know our planet is in peril by any number of metric or any way you look at it and for me it APP harvest it was about taking proven technologies and deploying get scale and so for us. We're taking the ecosystem that we see in the Netherlands where they are the clear world leader in agriculture and bringing those technologies over to our region in eastern Kentucky speaking of you know your region in Eastern Kentucky. Did you consider any other location for you know the first facility or did you always know that Kentucky should be home. I mean you don't really associate agriculture with maybe that part of the country right no for for me. We're focused on building the largest indoor produce of sustainable produce of America more. We're going to do it in eastern Kentucky so that's been the laser focused but but why Kentucky beyond just the fact that that but I love the state that I'm from Jeff as was in Kentucky about a month ago with our governor or they announced the one point five billion dollar Amazon Prime Facility U._P._S. has the World Port in Louisville Kentucky. We can get to about seventy seventy percent of the U._S.. And a one day drive so geographic location is is a critical part of why Kentucky and then also where we see with agriculture west of Colorado. It's drying up the Colorado River's drying up Arizona in California drought-stricken south of our border. This is where we grow most of our produce. The water is running out whereas in Kentucky we had the record amount of rainfall for state last year and we're on track to have the break that record this year with the most Mana Rain So why Kentucky great place to build a large indoor produce hub retool our food system in America get to seventy percent of the U._S.. Day drive and being very water rich region where water is going to be a scarce resource in decades. So what is the response been you know in the surrounding community are people just pumped to have y'all in Moorhead yes yes it's been very very rewarding. I would say to any any entrepreneur innovator or or tech founder. That might be listening to this. That's in Boston or New York or San Francisco. I encourage folks through the process of his able to speak it at Georgetown Law School and encourage folks to go back to their communities. Go back to their states or wherever they're from and try to work to solve problems there in not just from a passion project play but from it's the right thing to do from an charlize standpoint. I mean the the community in the state that have rallied around what we're doing the R._O._I.. On our investment to be able to make this possible this is absolutely not possible without the community support in state support that we've received and I and I do think for for those folks that are looking to start a business in innovate. Go back to your communities that will rally around you. I mean meet with your community leaders or mayor me with your congressman and see how you can build the business. Business at home where you came from and for me doing it in Kentucky is a wonderful thing personally but also just the right business decision so sustainable farming can boast some really awesome numbers when it comes to you know the reduction in water our consumption in that much I know I think a lot of people can infer from that but what are some other maybe not so well known benefits of farming in feeding this way. What are we going to see in the future? What amy we've gotta think long and hard about agriculture? Were everybody talks about energy in our energy needs. I mean the basic pillars of civilization energy agriculture. We're not talking about master planning policy around agriculture globally the way we should by twenty fifty with a population that will reach nearly ten billion we will need fifty to seventy percent more food than than what we currently produced today. Many people say we would need to planet Earth's with enough land and water in order to grow that food right now the world using seventy percent of its fresh water for agricultural production while we don't have a hundred and forty percent of fresh water we have a hundred and we're already approaching that so with indoor and controlled old environment agriculture with us were able to use ninety percent less water than open field agriculture don't use the harsh chemical pesticides will use integrated pest management in we can get a tremendous amount more yield per acre depending being on the crop or system were growing in so it's simply a must do around the world in I'm hopeful that policymakers not only in our country but around the globe start to look to the Netherlands in what they have done to build the most efficient Russian agricultural economy in the world and I hope the other other nations around the around the world begin to figure this out because to me. It's not about the I._p.. It's not about you know one company trying to hold onto the right answers again again. Our planet has real big problems and together. We have got to move rapidly to retool and deploy systems at scale and execute so for me. It's not about holding on to some I._P.. Were we we've got the best idea at the end the world it's about simply taking those best ideas in the world and working together in deploying scale so agriculture is is something that we we collectively need to focus on and I am hopeful. That food is becoming more of a topic in an ongoing conversation but it's something we need to really be focusing on and I don't see it even in the in the presidential debates or in D. C. M. IN D._c.. Right now and I just don't feel like the conversation is elevated high enough to really for the general public in all of has to be thinking through water the food systems of the future that are GonNa that are gonNA feed our community's well. I think that's the perfect price for you know food system for the future. I mean it's sixty acres right. It's sixty acres under glass so so this facility will be one of the if not the largest indoor connected grow facility. It'll be over two point seven million acres of grow area and then for us why the Glass Facility of course there's other indoor ABC companies in San Francisco in Brooklyn that have gotten a lot of attention. They're growing in warehouses or fully indoors and for us. We looked at it agnostic going. How do we do this and use these technology to best align with nature in Russ? The glass facility made the most sense because we get two free inputs that are planning gives us and that sunlight and rain water and if you're growing in those indoor warehouses you're not unable to capture the sunlight and for us we really wanted to utilize those inputs so the glass facility allows us to layer on the technology on the inside the software the sensors to drive efficiency but we can still capture the sunlight and. Have the artificial lighting on top then additionally on top of that the way we have designed this system it will be one of the if not the only system to run completely on recycled rainwater so that sixty Acre facility will collect the rain water on top and it will put it in retention pond where we then circulate the rain water back into the grow facility that is critical for a couple of reasons one. We have aging infrastructure around our country in all all around the world where we've seen what's happened in Flint Michigan and other communities that have had aging water infrastructure for us to be able to island our facility and run completely on rainwater makes us very resilient and doesn't put a press <music> on local water systems beyond that water that comes from the ground or comes from water treatment plants has sodium in it that's important because when the water runs through the hydroponic system the sodium builds adds up you have to flush water through the system to get the sodium out which washed down a wastewater system where you get agricultural runoff because we're running this system completely on recycled rainwater rainwater has is no sodium as a result. We can have a closed loop system. We're not putting any wastewater or will not have any agricultural runoff from this facility so from our standpoint we tried to take technologies in a layer on top of the natural all systems that are planning to provide us Mrs one step in the in the right direction of what we feel like agriculture in America can live like that is just any it's so brilliant in I mean so nuts. What are you guys GonNa grow in there any specialty crops yes so we'll focus on specialty crops with this type of system? You could grow tomatoes cucumbers peppers. You could alter it a bid and grow berries or leafy Greens or Herbs Address. We're GONNA focus on tomatoes additionally some cucumbers a wide tomatoes and it not getting into any geopolitical trade conversation simply from a environmental perspective the average American meals traveling fifteen hundred miles by the time it gets to our plates produce imports from south of our border. If nearly tripled in the last ten to fifteen years there were four billion nearly four billion pounds of tomatoes that were imported from Mexico alone last year so where those tomatoes are being truck five days on a semi truck to get to the eastern seaboard that just doesn't make any sense from an environmental standpoint so for us we want to focus on tomatoes grow in our region be able to get to seventy percent of the U._S.. Population or one day drive that'll reduce our diesel consumption and transportation by eighty to ninety percent less diesel so why tomatoes just so we can try to try to bring some of that production home and and get our diesel consumption down eighty to ninety percent on on the transportation transportation but then from there will move out to too many other varieties as we continue to build in the eastern part of our state. Our show is geared towards a younger generation of people you know we want to be conscious. Consumers and we want to ultimately leave the planet a little bit better than when we first got here and that includes millennials and that includes Gen Z. and so throughout some of my research I saw that APP harvest has put a big emphasis on you know not only production in agriculture but the education of the system so what are the some of the things that you guys are doing to engage the next generation of decision makers amy. Anything for bringing that up a lot of people focus on the size and scope of the project diverse building but as I've tried to say an APP harvest is not going to be defied by steel and glass or some structure facility will be defined by the the people of our region and together will work to redefine agriculture in America but yet this has been. I'm fortunate enough to did our investors a really bought onto the vision and we are a benefit corporation a registered benefit corporation which has allowed us to really look long long term. I I try to say this is not just about doing passionately what feels right but also what just is right for the business and for us we look at that ecosystem in in Holland in for us. If we want to develop this culture and mindset of what agriculture can be you. Don't go around and talk to a high school student. You don't ear anybody that says I want to be a farmer here. I WANNA be a doctor. I want to be a lawyer. Maybe I WANNA be an athlete or move to L._A.. To go get into acting you don't hear anybody say I WANNA be a farmer in the in the reality is the average age of the farmer in America is is in their sixties and we've got to find a way to recalibrate in rethink through what farming is so for us. I met Kimbal Musk throughout this process a spin a COUPLA hours with him at a family function down in Bentonville Arkansas were Walmart is and he was telling tell me about his company's Square roots in Brooklyn or square roots has containers in Brooklyn or they're growing indoors. There shipping containers like a semi truck that they've converted endorse. I went up I met the C._E._O.. And I looked at some of the containers honors brilliant idea and again I think agriculture is going to be redefined in many different ways and in what they're doing is is an amazing effort and we thought you know we're building the large scale grow facilities but what better way to engage edged the youth in our region in so when I went up there and saw it I remember it was a Sunday morning at gotten back to Kentucky and I called the principal at Shelby Valley high school and I said Hey Greg. We're GONNA Order Shipping Container Tator <unk>. Can we put it at your high school. In within a matter of days. We had already a work frankly before I called Greg we had already ordered the container. I was just hoping he'd say yes. We move really fast so greg rally in Shelby Valley a High School in Pike County Kentucky really rallied around this. We put the shipping container at the high school. We had nearly eighty or ninety students that applied to get into a program that we set up. We can only take thirty. We had kids come in at six thirty in the morning an hour before school to take over this container they brought it to life. We offered you know some of the classes to stand up the facility but they've really just brought it to life. In what we're trying to do is just create a culture of of growing. We've we've lost that in in high schools and middle schools and elementary schools around the country were not growing food. We're not talking about food. We're not talking about where our food comes from in. I do think you know some of the AG tech leaders in America are GONNA come from Shelby Valley High School in Pike County Kentucky whether they end up working with APP harvest or they come up with their own ideas for how we're going to recreate farming in America. I'm confident did did some of those students that have been working with us. We'll will be some of those young leaders and for us. It's really critical going back to what I said with. Half harvest will not be defined by steel and glass structures in the long run when we look back in five or ten years it's going to be the people of our region have dug in with us US evaluated technologies see how we can best farm. It'll be US working together in it'll ultimately be people defining. What harvest is or what the future of agriculture looks like in our region? I think that's absolutely right and you hit. John the head you know I've seen you on sixty minutes and I watch you know the squawk box videos in the Ted talks in rent everything on twitter and you know the scale and the scope of the project is huge but like you were saying it's really the impact impact of the project that matters so before I let you off the hook. I did WANNA play a little game. I'm going to shoot off a couple rapid. Fire questions and you just say the first thing that comes to your mind ready go for Jamie number one. What does your morning routine like a drink a lot of water number two? What was your first job? I mowed lawns when I was growing up. Who is the last person that you texted though good friend Scott at my at our company News Birkenau always try to keep me on track so good shoutout Scott slump? What does an ideal Saturday look like for you a nice early walk in the morning with ideally a nice good son sunrise? If any actor dead editor alive could play you in the movie of Your Life. Who would you cast yourself? Oh Gosh amy really well Johnny Depp and George Clooney from Kentucky so I think I'd take either one of them. Yeah those aren't bad options. What did you WanNa be when you grow up? You're talking about how kids don't want to be farmers. What did you want to be? You know amy for me. My biggest inspiration growing up was my father. Who's WHO's an entrepreneur and had a small business and I knew I was going to form something think of my own? I did not know who is going to be farming and I did not know it was going to be a project of this scale but but always knows gonNA GONNA start. A small business knew that from early on well that's weird that you're reading my mind because my next question is what is one one small piece of advice you have for a budding entrepreneur. Find someone with integrity that you really look up to because a lot of things come and go in this world but integrity doesn't in it takes a lifetime to build your character and it takes a very short time for that to deteriorate so I think for entrepreneurs and I'm not sure that it's talked about enough. You know people talk about the business side or the economics or how to raise money but I think integrity and character especially in on this day when purpose is so important to business you know finding good role models that have integrity and character should be critical to any entrepreneur Lee tact a bit about tomatoes in Kooks but what are what's your favorite fruit which your favorite Veggie. Oh Oh gosh well. I do love tomatoes. I I can eat a tomato like a peach. Just grab a nice big plump bread tomato to right into it in fruit. I I do like do like peaches raspberries but I love plants. You can't eat enough good good healthy fresh fruits and vegetables so I love love all varieties of fruits and veggies and lastly. What does success mean to you well? I mean I think again. We're in a world where there's a lot of problems and in for me. Thank success should be defined by impact at scale in businesses without purpose really don't serve our society at this point. We we need folks who were striving and success being defined by impact would be a great benchmark so for me impacted scale would be the way in which I would define success and I love that and I love what y'all are doing. You know we're excited about the future and just really pumped to watch watch you know no pun intended to watch harvest grow China than thank you so much for spending your Monday morning with me. Why Amy Thank you for having me in? This is an incredible podcast. I've gotten to know Nate Morris founder and C._E._O.. At Rubicon global will very well and I think it's it's also important for people to look at businesses that that are a little messy in the way that Rubicon gone into the trash business to to revolutionize the way in which the trash industry is run in.
1241 Dr. Bill Lee on Giving Back Through Organized Dentistry : Dentistry Uncensored with Howard Farran
"Is just a huge honor to be at the kentucky dental association annual meeting in louisville with nine other than the president of the kentucky dental association <hes> he goes by bill. There seems william. E lane lay d._d._s. a native luxembourg lexin tony. What's lexin. Tony in dr william ely graduated from henry clay high school in seventy three are- vanderbilt university and seventy seven and the university of kentucky college dentistry in one thousand nine hundred ninety one. That's here in louisville knowing lexington. Oh that's okay okay. He started a private dental practice with his wife dr janet lee in nine hundred eighty four and then merged practice with dr after john thompson in one thousand nine hundred ninety very active and organized dentistry. Dr leaves the member the a._d._a. The kentucky dental association and the bluegrass dental society is honored to be a fellow in the national college of dentists. The american college dentists and the pierre for charlotte academy having served many roles and organiz dentistry. Dr lee is is currently the president of the kentucky dental association and a delegate of the american dental association. He has also served on many boards for organizations in the lexington area area most us mostly associated with his children's activities. An avid learner dr lee attends numeracy courses throughout the year away from the dental office enjoy spending time with his adult children megan and michael exercising travelling and playing racket ball so thank you so much for so much volunteers and i'm an organized dentistry i am. I don't think non-members have any idea many hours. You guys spend volunteering. Take time away from family in practice how many hours using eastbound non-compensation that's <hes> that's hard to say. It's you know it but it's also a hobby. I don't play golf. You know <hes>. I do play racket ball. That's my that's my <hes> my exercise my fun. That's i but i get it up and play at six in the morning. You know getting exercise my mind stimulated go out and play racquetball and <hes> i'm ready to go to work now but as far as organized industry and stuff like that that's you know <hes> i enjoy giving back to the profession. I enjoy giving back to go to my colleagues and counting the hours. I know it's a lot though it's well to others yes to me. It's probably not enough so you been allan. Listen to been out of school. You graduate eighty. Ah one eight hundred twenty nineteen so thirty eight years so almost four decades sometimes the kids come out of school and they look ask bill how they get out in the goal and now it's a is it still the golden years our outlook later this change. I've made comments this. This means back in the galt house where i started my organized industry career guy it's it's been it's been in the galt house for two decades now of course when he was here before the phones hang on the wall. You know to change your tv channels. You've got off the cats win over push the but now our phones in our pockets along with our t._v.'s along with our our cameras along with our internet. You know things have changed so what i did to get into dentistry and what you did to get into dentistry. It's different from what you know. The new graduates are facing so organizers. He's gotta change to meet those demands <hes> and those individuals. Let's see what organized industry need has to give them to. So so what what do you see what are the biggest challenges on just to dentistry today is it insurance is corporate ministries a smile dot com. What what are the major storms. During thing in your opinion membership organised dentistry is is it's the voice okay you know it is the organization it is the <hes> the <hes> <hes> if we don't have the majority of we don't have the voices just to make an impact. We don't have an impact and that's the message that we're trying trying to get that we have to get across to are not on new members but but our older members to that that aren't aren't participating now once we had voice voiced within yet. We can't start making a difference on non covered services. We can make a difference on smile directs in we can make a difference on <hes> <hes> live patient exams. You know <hes> you know we can make a difference on on those types of things <hes> <hes> or medicate indicates these but we have to have a substantial voice in order to do that otherwise we're you know we're kind of blown away but dentistry has far more membership than the american dell's american medicals. Yes oh yes yes you look at what's happened in medicine to you know <hes> dentistry still roughly eighty percent general practice twenty percent especially well medicines just the opposite and they've done it to themselves. You know they don't have the real voice of of you know. The the medical association and dentistry still does but our membership is declining you know and our voices declining so late like how much of a decline i mean how much <hes> when when i graduated <hes> you know the membership was well over seventy five percent or around seventy percent for kentucky or national national okay yeah i was on capitol membership and it's like seventy three percent and we tried to make a push to get up to seventy five percent now. This is back in the nineties. You know i think now nationally. It's like sixty. Three percents of like that now is that the actor does that count the all the retirees your members for free or ariza count <hes> that's active membership and it may be life retired. I'm not sure ask what the number is a number of uses <hes>. I know they're so it's sixty. Three cents about two out of three yeah right and is is two out of three. Is it giving you an effective voice. Well yeah i still does it still does now in kentucky. We're just a little over fifty percent so when i go to a legislator to an administrator and i'd say well you know i'm speaking for about half the dennis kentucky where they have the opportunity say welcome. You're not talking about the other half and how many how many dentists are have they live over two thousand two thousand total your total about a thousand or two thousand and you're close stu <hes> you're very close to national how far from nashville nashville from here from louisville about three hours and that's club is nationally. I guess i am yeah so that's racy your backyard. Oh yeah oh yeah so what do you what do you think of things like smiles dirk club. Well obviously the practicing dentistry without a license musically now <hes> and a._d._a. Has has filed a lawsuit against small direct now now and i support them yeah now that they claim they're telling dentistry. You see this story. I don't you know you know now that i mean you've been doing this thirty years. As i just celebrate thirty two in my practice i'm so much the podcast people. They just walked out of school. What would it would advise after almost four decades of doing this all the the president of the kentucky dental association what would you what advice would you give to someone just coming out of dental school where i'm i'm thinking involved. Okay certainly get involved in in in in organizers. Let me put it this way if you go out and started practice is easy to start a practice from the ground floor or is it easier to start a practice in practice by practice practice. You know the only the the thing that draws the main drawback with that is is is the expense no but you can you can buy practice and <hes> and then time customize your the the way you wanna practices as well yeah. You've got a practice called the eight hundred sixty years old. Okay it is it is old you know but but he's got a tremendous reputation. It's got some grey hairs on the topic but you get a group of guys were bringing year that can come in customized tailored to their needs and you've you've bought a practice. You bought an organization. You has the reputation the respect effect of of the nation and you're not inventing the we know you're not building it from the ground up. I i'm i. I'm afraid that a lot of the young kids they have these very <hes> wonderful visions of america that just made in truth liberty and justice and the american way and they ever saw how to actually operates its money or what's the question if you're not in there with your lobbyists fighting fighting tooth and nail for your positioning the insurance you're gonna take it away corporate every they. They just think that that it's judged in this aw fair in a fair way. It's a war twenty four hours a day and it's what's joke you don't wanna. We see how sausage right right so have you. Have you seen that in your yes yeah we up as as spreads the kentucky dental association. I've had the opportunity to try to make the opportunity to meet with several people in the administration. We've got a medicare issue kentucky now and <hes> <hes> we set up appointments with several administrators in last minute get canceled or postponed changed. Well you know it seems like they've got better things to do to talk to dennis well. You got five digits in their paul. Go sir from arizona on the national. I love you. I actually went to creighton university. We were both in same swanson hall early yeah yeah. We were both in the same <hes> <hes>. What do you call that dormitory. Okay you got a guy from alabama georgia texas rice. I know there's five dentists and just did you ever meet with any of those. I have met met them. Yes yeah <hes> <hes> to spend any time with him. No personally no. I haven't yeah but i mean but do you think they're that helps dentistry congressman there absolutely yeah unfortunately we don't have any any legislators in the state of kentucky in in our general assembly here in kentucky yeah and that's something that we've asked for push for something like that but nobody stepped forward yet but yeah they have national representation from from the the dental profession absolutely now so what do you what do you think <hes> what what other challenges do you think these young done so have and what advice well debt now when when students are graduating with a quarter million dollar debt <hes> they're already <hes> behind the eight ball now <hes> and it affects them being able to go out and and get financing needs to start a practice or practice or to buy a home depot car start family no those types of things but on the flip side of that too i i was fortunate. I just got i just sold my practice <hes> just a year or so ago <hes> but i was fortunate i i had a very nice young man who who <hes> had all the qualifications i would look for in <hes> <hes> but <hes> there's a lot of a lot of people in my situation who are looking to sell or or or to <hes> associate <hes> get an associate in the practice but they they can't find somebody because the younger people have so much data can't afford to come into their practices and housing housing is down the united states. Have some student loan the house <hes>. Would you say that your practice was rural or urban now. It's urban. It's i'm in lexington just right on the ballot andre did you and you're you're married to a dentist. Yes yes janet and so what advice there's as a quarter. <hes> listeners are still in dental school so they're dating right now. Other little love birds <hes> what advice would you give to too little young love birds that are gonna get married. Did you meet your wife in school school. Yeah it's one exact thing or is that a rare thing it was well. There weren't that many women in dentistry back then so in that sense of israel. How many how many people are in your classes at sixty we had twelve women well for the highest at that point <hes> and my wife's class year behind there was twenty out of the sixty so that would that was the highest and then it went back drop down a force now women make up half the heff classes and has for for quite awhile so yeah. Dentist dentists are fairly common now now. I said i'm never going to dated. Dental students. Don't never gonna marry a dentist. I'm never going to work from my wife and i did all three and it turned out to be the best thing ever yeah <hes> yeah. We work together. We merged practice with dr john thompson <hes> my wife <hes> we had two kids so she went part time and then she went back to teach at the dental school and ended up starting half a day a week to day and a half a week two three days a week to full-time so she ended up teaching fulltime <hes> she developed cancer and and <hes> <hes> seven years ago passed away <hes> so thank you that's okay so <hes> but she he had already moved out of the practice. It was teaching when when that happened. Our kids were grown fortunately <hes> but <hes> as far as advice ice you know we looked at it as we were. We were equal now we were. We're both professionals <hes> it was you know there's times when we would come home <hes> for for dinner and we were talking dentistry and finally daughter said one time then okay enough shop talk talk family and then we kinda go. Oh yeah yeah so we we really made an effort to limit ourselves a homeless home workers were and understand that life is good so when something that painful happened to see how how long does taking to get back to your feet when something you never really we never really get back you adapt. You know used you know as an example. This is the first time i back in this building from <hes> for my dental dental meetings. I have very very fond memories of of spinning meetings here with my wife and my family and it's it's been a challenge at times. I'm society. Thanks <hes> his <hes>. That has got to be the toughest urine so so i got asked. What is the bluegrass. That'll site. Is that the local component. That's what it's called. No it's not it's not a bunch of dennis at play <hes> bluegrass now well. It's in central kentucky. Which is the bluegrass bluegrass state. It's the horse farms arms. You know <hes> it's you know that's what the region is known as you know you look in the grass bluegrass variety in it's funny funny. I saw in a patient's week. We're going to that kentucky dental socially and she said to me. He's a she said is that where the kentucky derby as i was. I thought it was. I imagine the kentucky derby in kentucky but that is a route churchill vance that way and it's my mom's. It's my mom super super bowl. Oh yeah i mean we. It's every time there's a horse race anywhere in fact what was the big run so many years ago the the triple derby-winner well secretaria secretary. Okay i mean that was that was an amazing deal so oh. You're also a lot of the kids. Your fellow in the international college of dentists ran the american college dentists and the pierre sharp academy and talk about those three things. I'm sure a lot of the listeners don't <hes> well. They're <hes> they're honorary societies and you're nominated for for the work that you do in in different things they're all different organizations meaning different things <hes> the the enter the american college has a lot to do with with the ethics of dentistry. You know <hes> in their profiles you know white coat ceremonies and stuff like that international college is just what it says. It's it's international fear for shard. This is <hes> charitable contributions events or internationally yeah when i was was in when i was in france and we're doing podcasts from paris france i go to the pier for chard museum. Yes okay. It's close remodeling a really so what are you. What are you being the president of the kentucky association. What would you think you how you see dentistry different now that you've done that experience when you walked out of dental school. What's i mean your your journey being the the president of the kentucky dental all that you've been through with. How do you think you easy dentistry different than this doctor here who just graduated an hour ago from dental school different. That's a good question and i'm not exactly exactly sure how to answer it. You know the one of the things that that philosophies or whatever one of the things. I want to leave the world on one of the profession better than we found it now and can. I say i've done that. I'm not one hundred percent sure honestly when i graduated profession chen with <hes> our organizations were seventy three seventy five percents. You know we didn't have the third party issue that we have now. We didn't have the student debt. We have now. We didn't have so many issues that we do have now so in that regard. I'm not sure that we're in a better situation that regard on the other hand. If if i hadn't done what you know participated in organized way a half jeff and my colleagues and people like us. Where would you be now. You know so have a done good. Yes is a profession in in good hands as is it. Yeah i'll tell you what the science and the technology <hes> <hes>. If i were coming out industry right now i would be excited to be practicing now running the business. I'm not so sure so ah i think one of the biggest differences ask school as i had my fees and if you had delta dental eyesight you the my what idea i and they paid one hundred percent and claims eighty percent of root canals fillings crowns parcells now they send me the the and i mean i actually i actually my my fees are forty two percent lower than they. We're in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven <hes>. How has that been a game and what is the relationship between the katie a. and delta. I mean are they. Are i mean you. They have to work together. Somehow i mean it's yeah. I'm the same boat that you are when when i graduated delton uh-huh and all the other insurance companies had had a max of a thousand dollars well <hes> delta still has a maximum thousand dollars dollars for mafia stayed at two hundred dollars round now and is your assistance. They'll get paid the same amount of money per hour yeah now now. Have we made efforts. Have we been in discussions. Try to change that. Of course we have now but you know. Have we been able to make that happen. Well obviously not well. What would you what is e relationship though i mean when when you talk to delta <hes> <hes> because if you look at the thousand dollar max when delta started if it was adjusted for inflation it would be well over five thousand all right so every time the earth goes around the sun invasion. Just the cost of labor lab supplies all that stuff <hes> but insurance same so let when you're having what is there. What is their side of the story well. We're we're we're. We're kind of stuck in my opinion because you know the way to <hes> to combat that is saying well. We're just going to stop treating our patients stopped taking taking yeah yeah and you know and who does that. Hurt doesn't necessarily hurt us. It hurts our patients and we're you're and our business to serve our patients and you know that's what medicaid is is is a whole nother example of that. You know we're we're there to treat our patients particularly the underserved you know so we you know we try rather to try to help those who can't help cells and if we get paid for it great that that's what we wanted to do but if we can't <hes> you know governmental brenton administrations have is that lock. It's amazing is delta. Dental kentucky is affiliated with affiliates in arkansas into michigan shiga new mexico north carolina ohio tennessee collectively are among the largest dental pint ministers in the nation. I think there's only one bigger than this one night. <hes> probably probably what california and <hes> <hes>. It's amazing so insurance. Exchange biggio said technologies chains big. I mean <hes> <hes> my gosh <hes> when we got out of school. The big new thing was going from a gold counter p._f._m. Right now p._m. Is almost a it's on its death bed eh well. It's not doing well in our practice. I when we merged with john thompson we were on the i ten in the nation to get took it a dental laser. The laser went on the i ten in the nation to get that and that was the new technology you know <hes> <hes> gosh several years ago we got the e four. D you know <hes> so we're doing our prancer day. You know <hes> so yeah talk about p._f._m.'s. We don't even doing that anymore. You're right now. You know the science. The technologies were growing enamel. Damn i talked to the graduating classes and i'm saying you know <hes>. Tell you what happened. You know when i graduated thirty eight years ago we were talking about <hes> gold crafts and that was my standard in in now that you're saying that <hes> <hes> you know the standard is full porcelain crowns and thirty years now when you guys standing up here at the at the podium saying well back in my day i had to put my fingers in your mouth and we actually had to restore to not gratitude now. Where's john dunstan your website. He retired. I mean he yeah doc thorne <hes> ten twelve years ago but dr thompson out dr thompson was older than i am. Okay okay <hes> ten years older than i am <hes> so talk to dr harm who was who's twenty years younger than i am and then now i have you know we ran. It's course i was the the old guy and i just sold my practice to dr cartesian who's who just graduated from university of louisville school dentistry couple years ago and you'd pick him because he had the same name william well that was coincidental. That was the main reason why that was just turned out to be real nice guy so that's another great question is how do you what is the best transition when when you sell a practice some some people say that they me what you to sell it and disappear tomorrow some say they want you to stay on for six months or a year. How do you see a transition. What were what's the whatever works best. You and that's the best thing that i'll say okay. I'll what worked for us on boat well. When dr the thompson faced out dr calif- team in dakar gentleman was associate for for a year and a half or something like that and then he then he bought thomson apps <hes> over a course of a two year period so there are three of us in that practice were about three or four year period for dr thompson finally phased out now and calderon lorne came in he was ready to go start boom and originally had tried to do the same type of setup that dr thompson bucker child porn did <hes> but he will let me ride you check and <hes> you you say on for a year a year and a half and <hes> and then we'll we'll we'll let it go and that was amenable to me so <hes> that's the way it worked for me. <hes> there there are some practices where you know the the older doctor trying to get at he wants to hand you the keys and turn walk away or physically or he's in a position where he can't or she can't continue the cracks or you know the <hes> <hes> the new dentists needs to be mentor <hes> needs to be brought along aw which takes longer time it depends on the situation and that's that's where good broker good good well eight eight practice transitions <hes> <hes> a new program that the f._d._a. has actually it's a pilot in maine and wisconsin wisconsin. That's is a practice brokerage practice transition program that <hes> the a._d._a. Has developing which will do that it will it appear a a a a new dentist with an older dentist <hes> but it's a it's a process that matches <hes> not just dollars but the personalities and philosophies and so far. It's working so dr padded telephone. One is married to an orthodontist yes so does she get mad he likes to do or do you see much turf wars words between general denison specialists and and how does it play off and a husband wife when when the general dentists do biz line and maybe the wife thinks she should be sending it to my office well in that situation. It's not that big radio because <hes> you know she's a wonderful person has a great practice. What does she has a partner to actually he'll bring. He'll bring stuff home to her as a console. Hey look you know. Can you help me with this or you know you need to be. Now you see many. Have you had much experience different. I the the reason i ask is let let's say you're a young kid and and we see this dental town proposing a lot with their like. <hes> you know they were in a small town. They go to study club. Maybe it's children's texas and she's he's thinking why would he do this molar indo but one of the fails there's kyle the ended honest and design but you know there's you know bill will the orthodontist. I mean how does how does a little young graduate fit in at the study club. Avoiding turf wars or should are shot think about our new thing about it. Don't think about it. Yeah just yeah i in fact the opposite i'd say if i was going to indo and and bill is only in my small town. I'd say hey bill. I'm gonna i'm gonna try this root canal and if his reaction was fear and scarcely like we you shouldn't do that yeah you should give it to me. Then you can just check out. Bills name is losing. The're and don't waste any more time but he said hey. We'll let me know how it goes. Nathanson unhoped growth in abundancy and you just ended out all the toxic people in your life life get so much more fun and happiness and no. I understand that yeah yeah now. Don't be afraid to ask for help. Don't be afraid to ask for you know ask questions of of it specialists of of colleagues now. I never did and if you if you get into an abrasive response on your right check them off. You know not to go there anymore now. Ask experience is been has been that you're gonna find. Most host dentists are going to be open to to offer assistance or help guide into whatever okay that's been my experience now. I'm gray hair got to so we'll at least you have hair will never give any something for gray hair when i can have none so another thing i would ask about is <hes> at these partnerships you know when you're married their social glues you have love and family and children and then when you marry a dentist partner you you know how all those those blooms and a half the marriages end in divorce. I'm near the pros of a partnership is with the cost of a laser cad cam right hanno hopefully with a partner you cover more hours in the week <hes> since and where i come from an arizona eight percent of all emergency room visits or a don to genetic in origin because mr close the dennis so could you give out a partnership. That's good. That's a hard question. I've always had a partnership you know i i never wanted to practice alone. You know but that's my personal philosophy. I always liked having a second opinion. I always liked having a colleague big bounce ideas off <hes> but that's that's that's me most dentists think referred to be a solo practitioner a lot <hes> having a partnership it you're right. It is a marriage it. Is this much you giving us. It is receiving and you've got to be willing to see that and to be willing to to sacrifice some of the <hes> control aw without obviously sacrificing you know you're yourself and that's and that's a that's a delicate balance because maybe one dennis wants to buy a hundred and fifty thousand dollars cad cam machine and the other. No one wants to buy a hundred thousand laser and the other one doesn't want to buy anything. How do you work your way and there again. It's it's also what stage of life you know i. I say we were <hes> if an older partner is you don't want putting more money back into the practice because he doesn't. I want you know he's not going to get it back out. Where younger practice younger practitioners is looking to invest in the practice so that he can build it out now. So there's different philosophies so would expensive. I you guys have awesome expensive equipment. You guys got violence laser on that. That's <hes> humor how much that cost or <hes> off top ahead. No no i mean i it was expensive. You know so. Do you think there's violence. Laser was a return on investment. Are you glad you bought it. We bought it yes from a a charge or a material sandpoint hard to say whether it paid for itself <hes> from the <hes> <hes> publicity the d. so to speak or the marketing <hes> although we didn't direct market <hes> <hes> yeah i would say it did the <hes> the the e four d the the office crowns <hes> mill that certainly did as expensive as it was to set up and and why did you go with the plan mec is e. Four d. plan meccas in helsinki. Finland and there is in dallas as opposed to serono corona dense leisa rona when we did the research. That just seemed to be the when we did it. We had five. We've had four or five years something like that. <hes> and you know about it yeah. We'd like we did that. Just spoke to us the you know the the literature at the time was <hes> you know the the margin of error was better the the the software was easier to manipulate the you know it's funny because on dental town talk about oh my gosh sometimes sometimes my homeys can be challenging but we had to <hes> so so easy for these owned by plan mac. It's the biggest companies in the world and we had to separate on a cad cam under <hes> on <hes> yeah we had to separate casiraghi harm with the plant metaphor because the people who are paid spokesman for iraq. They're so aggressive they are. You got a separate ban a bunch of them because anytime they asked the question on plant mega they they just go on there and say well what about us machine so and we ban those people. We actually ban them. We there's no place for talks z. Remember on dental town every post. There's a report abuse about and they goes <hes> howard goals scene and and volunteer dentist and <hes> we play baseball three strikes out but the main question is <hes>. You're you are not rule your urban right but you still found million. You're on grounds was was a good yes now now. <hes> our office was was large enough that we actually had an in house laboratory we had a we had a <hes> a dental lab technician and in our office we had that from the time that <hes> dr thompson our practice merged back nineteen ninety so we always had a lab tech <hes> and <hes> which was which was fabulous so if if the shade resolve just a little bit or something needed a tweak there so whatever gary come over. Oh i took a look immediately. It was done. We didn't have to send them back. Their lab re temporizing or whatever <hes> <hes> and actually that's era scary yeah yeah that was the thing that when i was in high school and i would go visit kenny anderson prepared and pelzer and khanates and having your own lab was far more common today so do you think the <hes> the the cab cam is the new modern day latman but you still had gary do yeah we do it. Is he doing more removable lab work or he crown and bridge he he does eat as our <hes>. He does all removable up to processing guy he doesn't do what do we do. We do outsource that <hes> not because he can't just he doesn't okay but he's yeah he's. He's cranach trained in even though yeah <hes> technically i can i can you know design and mill of <hes> the the the like that i've got an experienced lab tech who knows all the stuff yeah stain it and everything like that why why waste my time when a lot of my friends that bought bought sarah machinery forties or whatever that you know in order to get them to schedule patients in phnom prob scan mill we'll see was taken to three hours so what they did is they <hes> perhaps skin make the temporary release awesome and then at the end of the one day a week a lab tech comes in and out all all the crowns are really now someone who you know because because albany crowns has gary made in his lifetime oh hundred thousand yeah and so when you go buy a cad cam and your best side is your donaldson donelson. He's never made a crown is now going to start making their crowns or you didn't go to school to be a laptop but when school dentist now you're going to slow down and be lab tech <hes> on it. It's a challenging situation but i'm well so that's our situation with theory is that you know yeah. <hes> patient comes in was scheduled ninety minutes. I would do ours numb. Preps can <hes> then. I move on laptop goes the lab gary. Very you know <hes> designs mills. <hes> i'm seeing another patient over here. Another chairs the patient neil impatience with their kindle solar book or magazine or whatever you know takes <hes> you know five to seven minutes to to design it <hes> twenty minutes to mill it so half an hour later. I've got a we got crown right there. Patients still numb after already you know nasa ties and prepped and scanned the next patient sitting sitting in the chair next to them. I come back insert this crown now and the process keeps on going. We'll we'll. Do you know if we're doing single units. Can do you know four or five in the morning four or five patients. You know now of course multiple units. That's yeah it is for celia so you wouldn't be doing well. No not not in that way you know not in that way yeah <hes> it's a <hes> it's amazing okay. How <hes> cad cam has come so far <hes>. Would you recommend if you didn't have an n._l. Slab of talking about d._s._o.'s the the only d._s._l. That i know that has an in house lab in all cases aspen and i think they have a better term market before i left i was in safeway and i saw a patient and i said how are you doing. How's it going us. You know. I don't come to you anymore. He goes because whenever i have to remind or whatever well you have to send it to the lab and be back he said but a new aspen dental opened up by me in <hes> where the night not keep greek <hes> casagrande and goes i go down there and they do the reliable i sit in the waiting room and they do the whole thing and i thought well that is is better and <hes> so so when i know that has a lab and all they're looking real clear choice ties with the implants. You're you're okay the all on four or they have and that was your bislama mixing the surgery with right in the process on us the lab tech all in one whereas that's kind of what you've been doing when when when when you talk about <hes> <hes> you know the the same day crowns or that type of your patient you haven't temporizing and the you don't have to worry about that temporary coming off the next week before they have to come back and then you have to reappoint them. Take more chair time. Take it up wonder if they're gonna show up. You know that type of stuff so yeah patient comes bache comes in a cusp off the need a crown will they you know with within an hour and a half two hours later they're done. They're complete their fixed and they're happy when when i asked the dentist what they're most stressed about most of them will say it's all the people the people the patients people staff. You have a whole whole load of staff members here <hes>. She's just got out of school. She's gonna probably be someone's associate for two you're three or she'll start her own practice with would advice. Would you give her. How do you manage a team of people. I mean there weren't any courses on how no how were where did. Where did you learn them well. It's nice staff is probably the most important to me. <hes> asked aspect of dentistry the technical skills <hes> the you know the patients dentists are now you know. Do you want to see good dentistry. You don't look at the at the at the final restorations you look at the press. You know that's that's how you judge. It dentists yeah. That's how you judge a dentist. You don't look at you. Judge your lab tech by looking at the restorations new guy but you know to me yeah okay yeah but to me young alf patients not not gonna know whether you are a great dinner. Just a good inst okay yeah <hes> but they're going to they're going to relate to to to you as a personality finale. That's going to relate to your staff even more so you know so the having good staff. <hes> you know that that that can <hes> can relate to your patients <hes> that honest with you that <hes> that work hard those are the individuals. You have to find out how to do that. That's that's a crap shoot now now. I got fortunate because most of my staff. I just retired but you know most of my staff had been there for ten years or more now got somebody. There was there when i first got there isn't a red flag. Is it a red flag idea when you see somebody who has an office ten twenty thirty years old but no one is worked there longer than two or three years. Yes yes when you got that revolving door then. You've got to ask why well when when office has revolving door that the honors gotta own it right well. That's my opinion miami. I mean because song invisible so i know the different walker jesus in a big mac. You're wikipedia but when you tell me i have four cavities. He's i mean i don't know if he told me he had prostate cancer and needed my gallbladder mood. I i met the mercy of you right so if everybody's a revolving door and everytime that's the number one complaint they have all these they come into mile. Will you win win. There and he said i had five cavities. I thought well that's weird but when it went back he doesn't even work there anymore and every time i go in there so if you're a d._s._l. And you can't even even keep your dentist. I mean that's the number one. I hear this and it's the same with with other revolving. We don't tell you about d._s._o.'s if they're averaged. Dentists works there one year well. It's it's it's walmart now. I it's you're getting what you paid for. You know i don't trust that you know but as i say i've been fortunate i've got. I've got a whole patient pool. It comes back to my hygienist. Agilis outcome see me but they can s- bahaji it's because they spent five minutes behind just five minutes with me and that's the relationship that brings them back no but if that hygienists is different every six months that trust is isn't there the- trust you know it's a wise patient combat yeah and plus. They don't even know what a good cleaning is. They drive there used to write and i remember the funniest you're saying i when i sold my practice i thought i had one of the worst identity has she always use that baking powders machine and made a mass of the patient jason was done they had it everywhere and so she went on maternity and the next hygienist that cover for i thought it was much better shipping amash the everybody was upside that the that the this one didn't really thought wow so. I mean yeah so it's it's. It's it just who you have your relationship. So when when you have an invisible product like medicine like we do trust is very important. Oh yes oh yes yeah i to me this. I as for example i went to <hes> my mom's internist you know at the doctor that <hes> that that i started with and <hes> <hes> developed a relationship with him him and they turned out to be a patient of mine too now so mutual trust in that regard well. He retired two years ago and <hes> gimme a name. Give me somebody that can go to and he was busy didn't get me a name by the time i needed to go back to see a doctor at least among where my regular recall came out so i went someplace i hated. It absolutely hated it. You know i would just not comfortable. I think at the time of day. I just didn't think that that this individual was paying. Menia tend to me personally no the number. I called him old dhaka gobs. You're going to have to help me here. If i can't see you. Give me somebody who's going to be like you did yeah and i've got a great relationship h._v._a._c. with minute dot now now i it just it's got trusted him now whether he's saying right things or not. I don't know now they they would have a much more successful practice. A person with great people skills but a below average dentist are perfect dental skills and below average people people still without a heartbeat people's i not i know i know some of the most busiest practices in the world. We're guys his crushing. It never take any complain about the ce that the state recommends ata but man if you get a in relation to the people skills staff they're never gonna know that your crown the anthony the best clinician in my class graduating class the best <unk> overall clinic in my class could not make improper practice yeah yeah so <hes> people skills is worth far more dollars. I then tap yup after because we saw an invisible product and that's why and that's why i believe that so many people are always his experts in politics <hes> because you can't see their thoughts that you see on goal when you go golf every says you're era lousy golfer and then you go try to lay up on a basketball and they say you get done correct so the the that's why people hate math. We know where the hit math because there's there's a right answer and the answer and you're wrong because you're crazy but then so they say okay we're working to go where there's no scorecard and i can just be right because i believe it and it's all like are a brick critics music expert right yeah this anything without a scorecard scorecard is where they gravitates and when people say they're not good at math. I say well then be a music critic the him i have both my kids were in in in band. Marching band and of lafayette marching band at in kentucky was either number one number number two in the state for route two decades now always been on the top well. I'm tone deaf almost i you know i couldn't tell what's what's good or bad on the field. I'm jack. I concede lines that concede steps and you know the the continuity that type of stuff but whether it was a good performance i didn't know now but gosh somebody did you know and <hes> the subjective scores. They always always worry the number one number two in the nation in so you know i'm which on a._b._c.'s are. What would you say a._b._c. The dr j. or let's see other one. Oh not mondays sunday monday tuesday april <hes> a._b._c. a._b._c. song long and then what's the <hes> the twinkle twinkle little star. Oh okay and which song do you like better. <hes> you always tell oh you better. It's the same song and i love that with my it. Granddaughter is moser moser song others. Rely your the f. g. twinkle twinkle so i always sing that to my <hes> grandchildren as big a little star than a._b._c._d. The city of i didn't realize they mail you see act oriented version of it. It's it's three and and a half hours long fourteen different renditions is the most wild you'll never think of a tweet a little star how i wonder were you are without listening to iranian. Thank you so much for <hes>. Let me podcast interview. Thank you so much for all you've been dentistry erling congratulations on being the president of the kentucky dental association and thank you for sharing all your wisdom with all my my home as well and actually i appreciate you being here <hes> welcome to kentucky and hopefully you come back to dr meeting. You know that that my father i actually lived in this town. When i was ten years old. So i tell you long story short my dad had nine songs and five maroon which saw and then he wanna go national also had one in louisville abilene kansas carney nebraska scheduled taxes and i learn more from my father on what is mistake tour then what he actually did. I i love the fact entrepreneur. I loved the but in in in wichita we had five he had a manta team is doing really really well. What killed them was the one in abilene kansas nebraska in louisville kentucky so iceland each one of my high school summers on opening pro. I spent a summer in louisville kentucky which the summers are awesome awesome because david levy there with his lincoln towncar opening his aren't drive in in a hotel with a credit card for three month's childress and abilene and carney. I had the most amazing summer my life would be in all four or those and <hes> i gotta tell you i'm the one lesson i had to learn the hardest. This is the only place i ever got shot at. I was <hes>. I saw my first vacaville night just like in kansas to hop the fence and pull up some plants and throw them in the back of the car. There are some shack over there. I heard that was not a shot in a b and a holy shit on me and so real them. Why why don't you can play cornfield in nebraska at anyone sweet felt in kansas league playing. It's vacaville kenya. No i guess not the backfield around anymore. Whether they're a bunch of back then that will happen for sure but <hes> the the plants were more higher dollar but man. I love my summary and low the memories here or good and that <hes> that river <hes> i pulled a catfish out of that <hes> river <hes> size my arm fun funny fun time. We'll good for you. We're welcome back and thank you for all you've done thank you. I appreciate it very very day appreciate.
NBA Draft Profiles: Kentucky's Tyrese Maxey needs to tighten up a few things about his game, but there's a good case to take him in the lottery
"Hey there it's scary parents at Saturday October thirty. First. Two Thousand Twenty Happy Halloween. Sports I on college basketball podcast where we sometimes discuss campfire leaky black. Matt norlander is here with me and his previously noted in addition of normal episodes of the college basketball podcast. We are also doing short episode on various prospects in the two thousand, twenty NBA draft. We've already done a bunch and today we turn our attention to tie reese Maxxie from the University of Kentucky's a six three guard raised in Texas going to be twenty years old on the night of the two thousand and twenty NBA draft he averaged fourteen point four point, three rebounds. Three point two assists for a Kentucky team that with twenty five and six one, the SEC regular season title by three. Games but still only finished twenty ninth at Kim. PA He shot forty two point seven percent from the field twenty nine point two percent from three eighty three point three percent from free throw line I. have tyrants Maxxie going eighteen in my latest mock draft norlander has him going eleven so we're a little all fear. What do we like about series Mexico's as a prospect? What's the concern we're going to get into a momentarily but first? Check this out. Ten is back. The PAC twelve is on its way and we're going to have an action in November listen to championship races going to be a sprint, and there there's only one way for you to stay up to date on entire college football landscape, and that's with the cover three podcasts part of CBS sports podcast network. We've got it locked down with late Saturday night instant reaction shows tracking the biggest storylines developments through the week and. 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That's not to mention bonus content every Tuesday and Thursday featuring interviews with the biggest names, dissecting pipe breakdowns and even little ridiculousness from time to time we surely take the game seriously but never ourselves. So why not give us a try for all your combat needs before and after the big fights, it's worn combat that download and subscribe today wherever you consume find audio. So norlander. Maxxie just outside of the top ten of your latest mock draft posted CBS sports dot Com. What do you see that I admittedly might not see? Question Number One. Does. What we saw out of Bamut, a bio and tyler hero in the bubble. Impact Maxi's draft stock in European. Could I absolutely think it could that because one of the things? And this is consistent dating back to demarcus cousins. At. Kentucky, players under John Calipari sh. They they. Show, themselves capable of doing things in the NBA that they never really did that much or at all at Kentucky and I think Tyler Hero is the latest example of that and if you want to. Say That Kentucky players can't miss they can whereas archie good one right now. But but I do think that at some point you go man the guys coming out of that place. Are, really More often than not having an impact in this league. Especially what we just watched and I could certainly see I don't know that it should help Maxxie but I could see I could see that it might obviously another player different Calipari built a whole pr tour around the fact that Anthony Davis is going to be the number one pick and he was six on the team in shots and all this kind of stuff. So we we just watched what Anthony Davis has been able to grow into granted he He's got a Leblanc on his team that's kind of a factor but. I tyler hero entire. Maxxie. all-told didn't have drastically different roles at Kentucky and heroes. Projections. Last year were landing in the similar spot to Maxxie. This year by the to tie Rhesus going top twenty this year. Halliburton maxine it was the last time I reset was drafted I. Don't know that's a that's a non trivial time trivia time therefore you. I think that Tyreek Maxxie has. Strong scoring potential at the next level with the right team and to be more productive than he. Showed himself to be a Kentucky. I don't know the A to me. He's on the shortlist of guys where this workout season and how it impacts him in a good or bad way I don't have a read on that I. Don't have a read on it I I would take tyreek Maxxie fight a top pick I see him floating. As low as twenty overall, but good size. I think he will. Continue to have a really good shot literally I mean literally his shooting form and his ability to score is going to is going to show up there and it's just one year. He still young he was a stud on the recruiting trail. We've we've seen this time and time again with. Kentucky players as you as you alluded to before and that they just simply don't get to use all the tools and there and nor should they be expected to in their drive by season at Kentucky there. So to me, he's a fascinating prospect. He could hit hit not to the level of maybe hero like hero it like is this an all time like rookie story from beginning to end what he was doing but if he could hit it like eighty percent of that then yeah obviously, any team would take them in the top ten. He's not GonNa go that high but I do think that he's got good potential to be. A fantastic backup scoring guard the minute he enters the league. So both of us were at the champions classic a when Kentucky. Played Michigan State is that correct? Yes. And if you remember in that game I thought it was right but no, no, I'm saying. I. I know not only remember that I remember US literally at like one forty five unpacking at Madison Square Garden to start doing a podcast remember. I did not remember that this was at Madison Square. Garden. But I do now yes. Okay. So we're at Madison Square Garden Opening Night Champions Classic Antares Max Star of the night goes for twenty six points. In thirty two minutes he seven twelve on the field three of seven from Three Kentucky? Upsets the preseason number one and I remember John Kelly Perry after the game saying. I haven't seen him. Yeah. Since I haven't seen him since I signed him. That's not the guy I've been working out. It's not the guy who's been practicing but that is the guy I recruited and it's nice that he showed himself tonight. And from that I thought okay. Well, maybe Maxi's just a guy who and this happens sometimes in basketball on perhaps other sports as well like you know maybe not the best practice air. But when you turn the lights on, you put nine other dudes on court with them and say, Hey, we're we're playing for real right now then he just shows up and I thought okay well, that's what maxine will be and he Just wasn't that he only scored twenty six once more the entire season. Now, twenty six, a big number in college basketball but still he only got one more time to season only scored twenty five more times. He average Fort Fourteen points per game. So he was not a high level score for SEC. Championship. Team that a lot of us I, think myself but also more importantly John Calipari thought he was going to be. Shot Twenty nine percent from three point range like that's not good and so I guess my concern would be. Is, is he just going to be a smallish non point guard who can't shoot because if that's what he is then that's that's not that's not a lottery that's not worth a lottery pick. But if you trust the free throw percentage, which is eighty three point three and point to that and say that is an indicator that he can be a good shooter and given that he can get to the rim finishes well at the Rim I think made sixty. Five percent of his shots at the rim he's got an array of floaters can finish what both hands around the ram you add a reliable shot that now you got something but that's what you've got to figure out like is he going to be reliable shooter or is he going to be a non shooter? He's a non shooter that's problem I. Think he's going to I. Think he is going to turn into a more reliable shooter. It is undeniable that if He shot twenty nine point two percent from three last season on one hundred, thirteen attemps if that, twenty nine, point two was thirty, six, point eight then you would have I think agreement on him being top fifteen status but isn't there yet I think that he is going to be a better shooter once he gets to the pros and that's going to be more consistent. He is. There's a difference between being a shooter in a score and Maxi is definitely more of a score. There's no doubt about that. Whatsoever I think he is a very good rebounder for a player of his size you know six three, ish, two, hundred pounds not afraid to get. into the lane and go to the Rim I, I do think that he is going to be able to acclimate himself well. And I also just I i. do think defensively there's an there's a good ceiling there that that would validate him but I'm glad we picked Maxxie not just because you know Kentucky players are always talking about but there does seem to be a wide disparity on him and as has been the case with a few other players we've talked about on these draft profile podcasts I find taking not only where he goes but who he goes to to be an impossible task because he's the kind of player that could theoretically fit on just about every single team that's going to be drafting in that range unless you are overloaded with three or four. surefire role players playing. At that at that shooting guard spot there that could Combo guard is level but I don't think that's going to be the case across the League there, and so he would fit on a lot of teams that will be in that spot as a reminder right now, I've got the list. Just you know if we let's call it let's lean more to you than me. Okay because I do think you've got the better chance of being right I'm just hire on him. It's fine. Orlando's fifteen he would fit their. Portland's at sixteen. Maybe, not as much. Well, listen Portland Needs Guard help like mccollum Lillard or awesome. Yeah and so and so you think, oh well, they're set their they play too many minutes or at least they play a lot of minutes I'm not as I. Some. He's definitely not a starter. There's no doubt about it Minnesota. I don't know the roster makeup Enough Dallas definitely not. Brooklyn Yes for sure that's going to be super fascinating. Then, Miami at twenty. Maybe. Again, though I just think you're GonNa like I think you'll see minimum to traits out of that. I just think it's going to be super trade happy trait heavy with all of that there I do like I think he's got a good passing I overall. Like I like package and I do as a player and I do think that he is got enough to validate taking him in the lottery but it's far from a from a sure thing. He's a moving target anywhere from eleven to twenty. You mentioned it's hard to pinpoint where he'll go even even tighten up his range. It's also very important where he goes and I think you can say this about most players. So we don't have to spend much time on it, but I, I'd say. Is Tyler hero tyler hero if he's playing somewhere other than Miami. Like I just think he he fits. So well, they're strong organization strong culture sometimes. Anthony Davis is going to be Anthony Davis. No matter who drafts him and Lebron Lebron no matter who drafts him. With these guys that get taken outside of the top ten, often whether they quote unquote make it or not comes down to who who drafted him who developed them. What kind of culture were they involved in and like wood frame bleep beef red bamboo if if he were with a franchise different than Toronto baby because I'm a big. Fan But I'M NOT I. I just think where you end up. Matters immensely unless you're just A. Generational talent like Kevin Durant or a Lebron James or a Anthony Davis, and tie. Rack St. With all due respect doesn't qualify in that way. He's a guy who you know. You could see him making it. You could see him just being a whatever player and some of that will likely come down to You know where does he end up and does that franchise have a good track record of developing players like him? Let's do a quick. Who would you rather here? Give you another player give you a stats last season also going to be drafted here in the first round this player shot thirty, four percent from three from three, forty percent from two. A he was a volume player. Not not foul prone same way that Maxxie isn't necessarily prone again, maximum twenty, nine percent from three, forty, nine percent from too much better from the foul. Maxi was eighty three percent this player from the foul line was seventy five percent This player had a ninety seven point six offensive rating at COMPA at one four, point eight reading Ken Palm. So blind resume, who would you take maxine the unnamed player and who who do you think the unnamed players? I think the players Anthony Edwards named Players Coal Anthony Ooh unemployed coal anthony I rather have tires maxine. Coal Anthony. Cole Anthony Head of Maxine on my big board right now. So I. Guess I would take Cole Anthony Over Therese Maxxie but it's certainly debatable. I wouldn't spend twenty minutes arguing with you about I think coal Anthony's ceiling is higher than Maxi's if Cole Anthony. If Cole Anthony Hits. I I think the big question with him is a top five, six player in the draft I. Don't think that he will be I'm more comfortable with maxie overall. Then Anthony I'm I'm interested to see what Anthony just wherever he goes and how he adapts and he's for the first time in his life not only not going to be alpha. He's not going to be the fifth best player on his team. So I'm just I'm interested we we did a call Anthony podcast go find even listen we get into that all on there. But yeah, Maxi. Wasn't underachiever Kentucky I think that is undeniable. I do remember sitting there after that first game and I was. One over and he there's no doubting that he wasn't that overall but. Really, still a good distributor Eighteen point five assists rate according to Canton. That's pretty good considering the offense that he played in reliable at the foul line good to point shooter gets to the Rim the threes are a question. There's no doubt about it can probably tighten up the handle a little bit that kind of stuff does matter to obviously general managers and scouts. I think he just didn't quite put it all together, and that's why you're seeing the variation on him that you are. I might be higher on him than anyone I'm not even like super high on him but I did have them at eleven there and I and I do think that there is some validation if you WANNA to take a chance there but I think who aware he goes. If he subject to a team that makes a trade, I wouldn't be shocked. Shouts to down to Chester South Carolina Shasta Terry MFN teagle legend Chester alarm. Now, thank you guys for listening to the Ion College Basketball podcast once again in the middle of the. dumbest pandemic of my lifetime. Absolute worst pandemic of my lifetime. You not subscribe please go subscribe anyway. You subscribe to podcasts including Apple podcasts and we will talk to you again real soon. Till. Big Ten is back. 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