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Kelley O'Hara on Responding to Adversity - On and Off The Field
"I have. come to understand that. The freeze this too shall pass is. So Perfect for anything. At least I've come to find. And it's not dwelling on. The negative. It's finding a way. To to control whatever you can't control to change the situation that you're in. Okay welcome back. Welcome to the finding mastery podcast a Michael, Javale and trading training a sport performance psychologist as well as the CO founder of compete to create. And the whole idea behind these conversations is to sit down with people who are extraordinary. Extraordinary in the way that they think extraordinary in what they do, but more importantly in these conversations is to better understand how they've organized their inner life. What did they do to make sense of themselves to make sense of events? And how do they use their mind to excel in life and excelling life is not winning, necessarily excelling in life is living a life of flourishing fulfillment of purpose and meaning be connected and doing all in the same time. At, least for these conversations in rugged and high stakes and high performing environments. Okay. This week's conversation is with Kelli O'Hara and she plays soccer for both the US women's national team and the Utah Royals FC. As a member of the United States Women's national team. She's won two World Cups and an Olympic gold medal. In fact, she's one of three players on the national team. The played every minute for the US in the Olympic Games in two thousand twelve. How epic is that? To contribute in a way where you play every moment. And then prior to that, she attended Stanford University where she won the Hermann Trophy in two thousand nine. And that's awarded to folks who. Are the top in the US. Top Male, top female college players across the nation. So she understands what it means how to do it, and that's really what this conversation about. We cover so much in this conversation. And we get into resiliency equality in inner drive authenticity. An impact. And when I think about. The challenge that's happening across the planet, but certainly in the United States that were currently facing right now. Those Five Principles those are significant now. Resilience, inequality, authenticity, inner drive an impact. Minister big time. Of Fantastic, a tremendous role model for the next generation and I can't wait for you to learn more from her. And before we dive in talk about nutrition for just a second. If you are a longtime listener or community member here finding mastery. You might remember that we had precision nutrition. Partners here in the flat out the industry leader in nutrition science and behavioral change. And I've turned to them time and time again and I'm not the only one I mean. 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Kelly. How are you? I'm good. How are you you know All things considered A. IT'S A. It's a really intense electrified charged emotionally charged time. And many ways of doing really well. It's hard to say that out loud because I know the there's so many people are really suffering. You know the joy in my life right now is that I'm at home, and I'm stable, and no one in my family has co vid and I've been passionate about justice for longtime. And Uncertain Times kind of. My wheelhouse so. For that I feel grateful in excited about the work ahead for all of us, so thank you for asking. Yeah, of course. Okay. So that's me talking a lot and this. This is meant to be more about you, so so really. What is it like to be you right now? Oh Man slightly loaded question. We're back in Utah, so I play for the royals F C which is the club here in Salt Lake City, which part of his cell and We're in the build up training period to. Our I guess you could call it. Many season tournament style season, which we're GONNA play in. Utah, in July, so. I've just been getting back into training Gave back on the field working through. Body making sure things are working right getting feeling like Oh, can I play soccer again? That sort of thing, and then also. Juggling all the things off the field which obviously like you said, there's a lot happening right now in the world to just trying to take care of myself so that I can take care other people Yeah, so I'm good, but it's also. It doesn't come with that. The good doesn't come with a lot of added stress from different things. You, have you understand? The equality, the justice narrative. Yeah you've lived it. You fought for and really when I ask that question. Like how are you doing? I understand like where what you're doing. The good good narrative there. But what is it like to be you? I wear a lot hats. You know. Athlete! PARTNER DAUGHTER SISTER FRIEND TEAMMATE MAY CO worker you know representative of a group of players for national team in terms of our PA so it's kind of like. I feel like I'm trying to make sure. Everyone's okay, 'cause I. I think that's just in my nature so that I think is what adds a lot of stress because. At no point is everyone going to be okay and you have to understand that, but then you have to figure out ways that you can help an impact where you can, but also understand that. You have to just. Handle things. and. Try to make things the best. They can be but know that going to be perfect. Where did that is the balance, isn't it? You know where did that come from for you? That idea that I'm going to take on a lot and I'm going to do it. Primarily in the service of others slash I. WanNa. Make sure that people are okay. light. Two percent difference between those right in if we're not if we're not thoughtful about it, one of them is like mission-minded for the betterment of humanity, and the other one is like codependency, which might happiness depends on their happiness. And when they're not happy. than. I, myself knotted up. And so which side you fall on? And then where does it come from you? Why would say that I I haven't always. Had, this role I think that I've come to step into it more as a veteran player, seen a lot done a lot been involved with a lot and so I think. That experience. has led me to the place of like. I Have I've I've been through what you're going through and I'm GonNa. Try to help you. However I can But I also think that like you said, is it codependency or is it like mission driven and for me? I've just seen that. The impact that we can make individual people, and then as a collective is so important, so I think there's obviously like I. Wouldn't I? I think I'd be lying to say there isn't a little bit of codependency. I think we all have this like I. Want you to be happy because if you're happy, then I'll be happy but at the same time. I tried to remember that. Everyone is not going to be happy all the time, and that's just a fact of life, but if you can try to improve. For. The collective. Like just focus on. That got to stay focused on I think. What was it like growing up because you learned something about how humans work, and how potential works you learn that at a young age, and then a young in the family sometimes. It's not good messaging. It's unhealthy messaging, and actually it's probably a little bit of good a little bit of not good right like that balance, first families, but I want to get a sense of that foundational stuff. And then where did you and then maybe it was there? or where did you come to learn that? Other people's wellness is really important. I think that. In in in my growing up like in my childhood. The way my parents raised me was. You need to like we're not GonNa, be helicopter parents just expect you to be your best and. I think that's what kind of has molded me into the person. That I am right there. Though that's a really strong message, we'RE NOT GONNA. Be overly involved, but but. We expect you to be Your Best Oh. Yeah like mom and Dad. They still tell the story, so I have an older sister younger brother and I was I think I was maybe in middle school. Sister was high school. She's tears with me. Six months with me, brothers, two and half years younger than me so all very close in age, and my parents It was the beginning of the school year, and they're like weeks, but you guys all to get as an that was that was just the end of their. Statement, Mr Beezer average. So why can't we just get BS my parents like? But that's not fair in. An from that. That's what you we expect and. We you guys need to go do that And like I said they weren't. They weren't. Helicopter parents, they just. Do your homework. Get good grades Breach your reach your potential and Like I said. I think that shaped me a lot in in who I am today, because I, it's. Coming from like me. ooh, a really powerful thought, which is, it's not coming so your drive. Is Not coming from an external source. It's coming from an internal place which your parents watered that seed early by a consistency of the message like. Is this your best? And again. I think I've learned a lot I've learned a lot through my twenties, and that was something that I learned I. Say you know they? They instilled that in me that your drive is GonNa, come from within your unique to just live up to your potential and we're not going to micromanage. and. They did that sports too, and I think that again really affected me as a kid they basically said. Do something because you love. If you don't love it, find something you do love and. I've held true to that my whole life, and this idea of being self motivated like you said they watered that, but I think that I didn't come to. Fully appreciate it and understand it until like made. Probably. Mid Twenties like I kind of awakening at the two Thousand Fifteen World Cup and that. Since then I was like well i. kind of always knew that, but then it it reaffirmed what. I think I knew in the back of my head, which was like external factors are. Are Are GonNA come and go, and if you're looking for validation from external factors, if you're looking for motivation from external factors, you're going to be hard. Pressed to find it at times. Therefore, you need to figure out how you find that with within yourself, because you're always gonNA have you and you're always going to have your internal dialogue and and your internal drive and. So that's that's something that I it kind of developed over the years. What led to that breakthrough. Yes, so at the M. Twenty fifty more club I. So my career graduated twenty ten. Twenty twenty or twenty eleven, which the World Cup as like the last player on the roster, someone actually got Lindsay. Tarpley got hurt. I got added. didn't expect play. Didn't I played for fifteen minutes total the tournament I was fine with that I just wanted to be cheerleader part of it twenty twelve rolls around Play every minute of every game of that tournament asthma outside back which I'd been all my life and then. Twenty fifteen rolls around, and I'm probably fourth on the depth chart, third or fourth on the depth chart of outside backs and I didn't see the field until. The quarterfinals. I think and I struggled. A lot like that was probably one of the hardest months. My life mentally and emotionally because. I was at this pinnacle of our wanted to be my career, but I wasn't fulfilling what I wanted to look like which was to be on the field, playing and participating in impacting The team that way but I did a lot of soul-searching in that in those couple weeks. Realize like I can't expect the coach to give me an explanation of. Why. I'm not playing live and seeing the field. I can't expect an in. It's not lean on certain teammates, which did but I. Kind of had this reckoning with myself like you have to self motivate, and you have to practice every single day and play like it's a World Cup final so one you're prepared and to. Like you're just you're on fire like you're prepared. And and you and you want it so and I ended up getting to start quarterfinals ended up going the semifinals going the finals and I don't think that would happen if I hadn't had this internal. Fire that just got. Burning bigger and bigger and pushed me to show that I was like ready and willing and locked in regardless of my. Hierarchy on the depth chart? So the so the clarity was that I wanNA I love said I wanNA. Play I, WANNA participate in on impact like that was that was what you were pursuing. Right okay, so then you didn't. You weren't getting that. It wasn't happening and so there's this little mini crisis right? Okay was an identity crisis, or was it just like I'm not getting what I want them or was an I'd anything like who am I without this? I've definitely gone through. The identity crisis I don't think that was a time. It was an identity crisis. It was more so like I really wanted to go to jail. Who was our head coach at the time as a woman applying and I had to sit like really back in and say this is not the time and place to ask the head coach. WHO's trying to win a World Cup while you're not playing, you're not playing because you're you know you're not in the picture. She doesn't think that you're ready you're. Probably, a number of reasons just now. You don't want to say you weren't good enough. I couldn't say, could you? Like I was good enough, but I love, but you couldn't say it right now, could you? You couldn't even say like you know you wanted to say that, but you couldn't even. You couldn't even let it. come up your mouth. Yes because I think that at that point I was good enough and there had been there. You go rear that I wasn't and I think that and I and I recognize that and I acknowledge those moments because I I wasn't where I needed to be to play at the level that I was potentially going to be playing at, but in that moment I was like I. Know I'm good enough I. Know what I have to offer and I'm GONNA show it in the only format format a half, which is practicing and I went out to every single practice and just. was a crazy person was just on fire because I was like I'm going to show you that when you look down that bench. You know that you can count on me because I'm locked in. Even though I'm not playing right now, you can see it in practice. WHO. Feel good even recount I like I feel like I. Bet you would know this. Kelly, but I measure daily success by how many times my hair stands up because it's that intersection between. The big. Aw, it's like the expression of all like like wow, and it's also at the singularity of like. I'm right there in it as best. I can with those types of moments so. All right. So. Is that the conversation that you had? Is that literally because so often? Kelly people talk about like. Theoretical the. It's almost like a vulnerability refusal to talk about the actual internal narrative, which it's that internal narrative bounced up against the challenge ahead. That really is the inner game right, and so if you don't have awareness, and you don't have a sense of the challenge or your internal skills, the external challenge in the internal skills. Would I mean? What are we doing? We're just kind of robots or something so. Is that what it sounded like in your head like a freak, watch? Here I go like it was like that right? Yeah. It was it was there was a bit of self pity that happened. You know it was like Oh like game. One goes on. You don't get in game. Two happens. You don't get in and you're like Oppenheimer. Maybe what maybe I'll start. Maybe get their game. Their game happens. You don't and you're like. Dang I'm like this is this is the world stage that you live for that. You train your career for an on, not even like I'm here, but it's. It's almost as if I'm not here in. That's not discount like who I am. As a teammate. Cheering people on on the bench and I was trying to do that as much as possible, but it was very much so like I. Want to be on that field, and I'm not and it was. It was changing. Self pity like pouting. I try to do that away from the team alone because. I didn't affect them and how they felt because at the end of the day. We're all GonNa win a World Cup. If we World Cup but it was changing that to be. How do I change? This specific moment. How do I get out of this? Is that was that your question? That was your investigation. This is my state of pity. How do I change it I? Think it was like yeah, this is this is the reality I found myself in. How do I? How do I change it because I don't Wanna I, don't this moment passed me by because I was to? Bombed out or you know what was me. To make something happen because I would have regretted it, even if I, maybe even if I didn't get the chance that I got I think I would have still hopefully been proud of the way that I carried myself in that moment. Okay? Let's take a quick break to talk about viewers. Viewer makes incredibly soft. Really incredibly soft. Incredibly comfortable versatile clothing. 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How do you gather energy best? Is it by processing internally riding listening kind of intimacy intimacy if you will or is it by do gather energy from being around others talking being in the mix, and that's how you think best gather energy, so if you had to say my my true preference is. Really is both for instance during that World Cup I spent a lot of time on in the moments. That I could I would go. Away for a long walk go into like I remember sitting by the lake for an hour. Reading this book about The the history of like existence in that sort of thing and. That! I need that I need alone time I need. Quiet time, but I also do gain a lot from conversation and. Bouncing my thoughts and my feelings, and my opinions off somebody else in having that back and forth because your internal dialogue is always, it's just you and you can. You can kind of add to it by reading in listening and learning, but then at the end of the day. I think that you do have to have some external conversations do journal. At times I journal Yeah I. I get the sense of I would say probably just from our thirty minutes. Here is that you've got a big? You've got more than normal introverted processing more than normal, meaning more than most and so you know which is. In that innovate self. It's a bit rare because most people are extroverted, not because it's a true preference, but because our world in Western culture tends to value that, and so people get kind of nudged into that direction, build that skill, but it might not be the true preference. Okay enough of that you. Burn it. Did you ask him which one of my? Yet when I first exam in this part of my life I was like Oh extroverted. And, then as I double click triple, click thought more about it. I'm much more introverted than I would have thought. And I prefer deep intimate conversations rather than bouncing around. On the surface from. You? Yes, so it's no, it's not lost that. Were engaging in a format words and intimate. You know as opposed to like autumn something else. That's more extroverted although I don't I don't? I'm not great at journaling. More introverted process. I journaled in the past and it's funny when I was a kid. I was like ooh. I don't want to write these things down because like what if I do? I can listen. I'm so embarrassed or like somebody sees this or that sort of thing you know, so. I think that unlike Google doc is probably the best options because it's. because. That's not being monitored at all. Oh there when I was a kid I, there were so many times that you just were. You felt so passionately about something you're. You're so wound up about something and then. You think I mean even now. You look back six months later that that was just A. That wasn't that wasn't that shouldn't have been stressful moment so I think that I've I've I sometimes steer away from it, but I have found actually journaled a lot I journal lot during major tournaments because it is. Important I find the same. During events I want to understand and cataloging Organiz and makes sense. Yeah, and archives in a cool way to okay so. What is your heart want? Oh Gosh does my heart want? I. Think my heart wants or my heart wants. People to feel loved people to feel accepted people to be open, minded And for me to be a person that helps to create that type of world and society. And people feel valued like them today. Everyone just wants to be loved right. I think that. That's. The most important thing. So, you've taken a nontraditional path for intimacy in love, and can you walk through what that's been like for you as a? This a little bit of a double double loaded question, which is. there's great inequity a fight right now for justice and equality, and it's unnecessary. Fight. And so you've lived those shoes, and so in your also white. And so as a white female that has lived the path of. Marginalization in western culture from an intimate relationship standpoint. How, how is that for you? It's it's. An interesting thing because I feel like I. I don't know how to put it. It's it's not that I don't feel like I'm different I. Don't look at myself and saying things like Oh. I'm super different from anyone else because I have. Felt so accepted and. I don't I. Don't know. I don't see myself as like. You say nontraditional on it and it is. Being dating a female but I. I guess I I don't know I've gotten to a place where I don't. Worry about that. Maybe I don't know. So so there's freedom it sounds like there's some freedom in there, but also I you know. As I was asking the question right after right when I got done with the question I said I wonder if my question was offensive. because. It's not meant to be you know, and I wondered if if I tripped into something that you. That got you triggered around the conversations while? No it's that I didn't find it offensive I. Don't talk about my personal relationship. That much I mean in in out of respect for my partner who is in the public eye so and I think that that actually is what's difficult is that people think that I'm not like comfortable or Super, love or or proud of who I am because I am and I'm like. And I'm really thankful that I've come to that place, but. Like. I said I don't talk about it a lot because of. Protecting her. and. So I guess I haven't. I. Don't I don't find your question offensive. But I don't know. Yet no I think you're super clear. Yeah, it's just a part I don't talk about much, but I really love who I am. And I'm in love. And how do you relate as the the white woman piece to being? Alive right now in A. One radical time in history, and to a really important time you know like like how how is it to be a white woman right now? Well! It's interesting because. I feel like I've learned so much just in the past couple of weeks and That has been so enlightening and I'm so thankful obviously how we got to this moment in time is. Her thick. But the fact that and I'm and I'm hopeful that the fact that I have had. Such, Like lightning experience in an awakening and this this realization of our sisters. This still impact so many people and so many people like. Were numb or just didn't are are not aware. That's where thing are just like Oh this is in the past. It's not this is real in. This is scary and this is. Something that has to change So for me as a white person, that's what I've been. Kind of sorting through trying to educate trying to listen trying to understand and then. Twofold, so there's. But then I'm a female and I've been fighting gender. For gender equality for years now and so. I think that I I don't want to have a unique perspective on like what the black community is going through I don't i. don't want that to. Sound insensitive. I have I have a perspective on. Inequality that. I wouldn't have if I wasn't in the position that I am with the national team and being female athlete. In its in it's made me realize like. Systemic sexism is real, therefore like like I know systemic racism Israel, because I've had that experience in a lot of people like. Oh, no, you know they they don't. Maybe. They don't see from my perspective on. The world that I live in an I don't see from. Certain People's perspective of the world that they live however because I live in a place where I have had to fight for quality. I feel it again. I said uniquely have perspective I. I feel like I can be empathetic and I understand I in. It gives me an understanding of like this is so important, and I will never understand how you feel, but I understand that you are feeling something and like this is worth fighting for. Okay so. I wanted to do two things I WANNA get connected to your ancestry. WanNa know. who were the ancestors maybe I? Don't know, but who were the ancestors. Because let me hold on. Let me pause. You're really unique person there's. Is An early I knew you're gonNA. Say That, but but like. You hold a unique position in the Zeitgeist of human potential for sure but. where. What are the influences the ancestral influences whether you know these people are not that occupy space for you. Well, I'm primarily British and Irish according to I think it was either ancestry, or there's another one I think ancestry But then you know have a smattering across of from from Europe. Really my my. Both my parents super athletic. They came from very athletic. Backgrounds. My. MOM's mom grew up in the coal mines in West Virginia had I think they had. There's eight of them. They for them it was education was super important. That's what my mother's grandmother impressed upon them. Eat like the way you get out of. This is education And then I'm a middle child I. Don't know if that's part of it do yet. No, that's all. That's all for short, contextual and then. How about the folks that are no longer with us like the the the people you carry with you that whether they are thought leaders, spiritual leader, political leaders like who is if there was a lineage of how you think and how you feel who is influenced that for you at is actually part of my ancestry. Maybe maybe not like there's a you know how you know how there's like a coaching tree. And maybe your coach buy them but their coach was may be influenced by a second degree coach, and somehow you're connected to them. You know I'm I'm thinking more like. and I don't want to kind of drive down the lane, but who are thought leaders spiritual leaders. Dead or alive that have influenced you and because ancestries a big deal for eastern thinking. A, little bigger than Western thinking, and so I just WANNA. I want to open that up a little bit to see kind of where that. Pass generation influences your current way of life. I think for me. It's been. Female athletes in the the trails that they have blazed. I looked up to the ninety-niners big time and I watched what they were doing and I wanted. To to to do that and to be that These aren't political or spiritual or thought leaders, but in my mind, their sports is culture so for instance Idaho for the first time. My recollection of I watching the Olympics is in ninety six. The gymnastics team Kerri, strug And hurt her ankle and push through, and she landed and she won, and so it was just. Though that was my first instance of seeing females on the TV representing the country. Doing Sport and then the ninety nine is happening so I think those influenced me as a kid. Be Like to do that one day like I remember watching the Olympics in thinking. All. I'll be in the Olympics and I. Didn't I didn't at that point to note before soccer? I just thought that would be. There for something, so I think that. Even though there weren't a female. Than didn't get a lot of. Visibility or recognition when I saw it, I connected to that, and that impacted me in a big way. Okay, let's take a quick break here to talk about. Miro and you know one of the things I miss. From being in an office is whiteboards. I'm a visual thinker and I like to think about systems where I can see it in front of me. And, then I can drill down. Drill down like that's kind of how I use a whiteboard. And they're solving it. So working remotely you know it's got its benefits. 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If we open it up and zoom right into a moment on the world stage Olympics or World Cup. That was memorable and I'd love to go inside that experience with you and understand. What was that like for you? If you pick a moment with zoom into it? What is the moment that comes to mind is it doesn't have to be a good moment or it can be it can. Go anywhere. You want yet for sure. I would assume in to. Two Thousand Eleven World Cup and Like I said I. was brought in last minute as you know A. An Alternate But then was added to the roster because Lindsay. Tarpley got hurt and PIA. The coach at the time said. You're not gonNA apply like you're here for practice here to be. A, cheerleader and I said you got it I can be that person. And then this was happening like in the locker room was this. This is probably the hotel in a meeting before we left for for the cup and. So kind of have assumption of this is how my tournaments GONNA go. This is what I'm GonNa be I'M NOT GONNA. Say the field this woman to use for, and it's our third game in. The group stage or playing Sweden or already through to the next round but we want. We want to beat Sweden so that. We can win our group and come out top seed and we. Were losing I think two zero. Maybe it was one zero. Fifteen minutes left Don Scott. Who is our sports? Scientists conditioning coach at the time. Walked down the bench, her job was to tell people who is going in to go up and she gets to me and she tells me to go warm up and I just looking around. Thinking you, you're not talking to me like you're definitely you messed up. You need to go check. Make sure you have the right player. Different memo. Not Part of the game plan. I go up the whole time. I feel like my pass out to the center we. What's the passing part because I'm so nervous? What were you saying to yourself? I'm not excited I'm nervous. and. What was that dialogue like? Holy Shit, don't pass out before you go into a game. That would be really embarrassing. You're fighting like your funds such lightheadedness that you really were saying. Keep my stuff together here. Don't pass out, yes, I. Way Line about two sub in my heart was through the roof, I could barely breathe and I was like. Just make sure that the circle doesn't closing and you pass it like the cameras going to be on your your subbing into a game. If you collapse right here, that would be really bad. That was going through my head before I went into the game. What was happening that it was such a big moment for you that your heart was pounding out of your. Chest as if it was a threat like a massive threat. There's the framing certainly a fighter flight feeling. It was because I wasn't I wasn't prepared. had only probably had seven or eight caps, which are appearances with the national team and I. It was a high stakes game. Obviously, the team was you feel the stress because we were losing and I was being asked to to go. Help I was like I'm not the person that needs to going out there to help and Yeah so it was just it was purely based on inexperience, and not being ready, and I went to the game. I played the worst fifteen minutes of probably my professional career. I don't pass out, just remember. Yelling Krieger was playing Alec Rigorous Flying I. Think Right back and I was going in as a right mid, so I remember saying giving her some instructions explaining what they wanted us to do so is trying to stay. With it and I. Tried to do as best they could like. I. Said did not do well. We'll cut you through it. I, didn't it didn't I didn't get through it like it was very very bad. I played very. I looked very much out of my element but I think once you to the game. You just start going and. You can't pass out because when you when you're standing there. Waiting to go in I had the potential to pass out, because I was locked up, but once start moving. Yes, I was still nervous. Yes, I was completely out of my element but And felt very overwhelmed, but I just kept going Then after the game I, Dope in control because I, get a picked to have to be drug tested. And teammates. It's down, says she was like what's wrong. I said that was the biggest epic fail of my life, and she just starts laughing, and we have this lighthearted moment, and I just looked at him like it's not funny. This this my career could be over after this and. Go through the drug testing, and we're about to leave and walk out. The door to the right were steps to go up to the field. If you go, you would go to the Vanderbilt Hotel and I. When we left said Hey, can I take a second? I walked up the steps and stood at the top steps on the field. The stadium was empty is quiet. The lights were off in. It was just the soccer field in an I took a moment and. Just. Talk to myself and basically said this is a soccer field. What you? You know how to play soccer even doing it since you're for. Doesn't matter. The stage doesn't matter who's in the stands. How many people are watching on TV? WHAT THE STAKES ARE! It's soccer game and you know how to play soccer, so don't doubt that. and. Filed that away the in the. Memory, bank, then. Went from there and I feel like I learned a very big lesson that day. That is what it agreement with yourself as about. True rate is in the agreement is put my language. You know how to do this. Don't ever turn your back on your history. Like, don't ever abandon your experiences because that's what you did. You abandon your experiences because there was lots of people watching because it was high stakes. Yeah, perceived right like that's A. It's a total relative terms stakes. It's a right, so you perceived to be a defining moment. And I'm not sure I know what the finding moments are and I hear ESPN. Talk about it and Fox sports I hear them talk about defining game defining play defining moment and I'm just calling bs on it like. And one of the things I think. I I would imagine you might agree with that. I don't know I. DON'T WANNA walk you down a path, but A called one of our mutual friends Paul Windsor the under Armor Global Director for high performance as said. WHO's Kelly to? and. He said resilient. That's nice. And that cool and so This is a moment of all the of all the places you have taken this conversation. You went to a moment that called upon resiliency. And so if you were to walk through the mechanics of being resilient because you've had you've had injuries. You've battled through. You know you've had difficult challenging moments. What goes into being at will first of all before we go what goes into it? How do you think about being resilient? Well just to go back on new saying you ask for moment I took you to a moment that had to be resilient and and I asked. Can It be good? Does it need to be good or can it be bad for me I think that? I know that the toughest hardest. Most trying moments are the ones that are the most impactful like you don't. Iron sharpens iron. You don't get to become the best, or you don't get to a level of success without having to go through obstacles and figure out a way to to respond to failure, because like that's just part of life and. It's so and I think that goes back to resiliency. It's how it's not resiliency isn't I'm not I'm not gonNA. Mess Up. I'M GONNA? Try to be perfect. It's I'M GONNA. Come up against obstacles, failures hard times, and it's not those things it's how I respond to those things that create I I am. So is resiliency for you the framing or like okay I. WanNa figure some stuff out so to me to walk that path. There's GonNa be. Alligator pits that haven't been explored yet. There's going to be cliffs that are kind of falling apart on the edges of the path and I need to navigate that framing like I want to go into those places, challenges and setbacks or whatever. Or is it more about and or is it more about the skills that you use to navigate? The footing underneath view the side of the cliff falling. Falling apart like is it more skill or framing, or how do you think about resiliency in that way? I think resiliency is more the skillset. Courage is the ability to go into a difficult situation and the two go hand in hand. So what are the skills that you use when you're in the midst of something, difficult or challenging? and. We're talking about psychological skills at this point. So I don't know if this is a skill might not seem very. Intellectual, but I have. come to understand that. The phrase this too shall pass is. So. Perfect for anything. At least I've come to find. And it's not dwelling on. The negative it's finding a way. To to control whatever you can't control to change the situation that you're in. That so it's a mouthful. You talk about optimism. You talked about acceptance and you talking about being on time with the moving present moment. So this, too shall pass meeting. The this conversation's going to pass something that's emotionally difficult is gonNA pass joy passes, and each moment unfolds like one front of the other, and if we're not on time with Miss Life. And so this too shall pass so if it's going to pass. it's not about like shedding it. It's like being in it to learn from it whether it's joy or sorrow, absolutely I mean. I feel like we are all presented with. Situations and It's for a reason and it's like what what can I learn from this game from this? How can I? Again. Use this. To make a better future for myself for the world. I, my teammates, you know. I've thought about that a lot lately. That's kind of. So the question me is like in your life when you think about your life, what are you pursuing? I mean. I'm pursuing impact I'm pursuing. I think I'm pursuing impact like I'm in my mind I. I'm in a position. Whether I like it or not that I. A lot of people look up to me. And a lot of people. Are inspired by what I what my teammates do. And in the beginning of my career. People would say that like Oh. You're inspiring like. What you do help so many people in I would I kind of brushed it off and say. I'm just playing soccer. I'm just doing what I love and took me awhile to. Understand that there's a responsibility that comes with it, and it's an. It's true like you are in a position where. You have the ability to impact people. You have the ability ability to inspire people and. For me, it's making sure that. that. Don't let that go to waste and. Think? There's so many different ways that you can. You can use your platform for good, so it's just. It's making sure that. Making. Sure that I do that making sure that I. Impact individuals. Communities Team Society the world. For the better. Sounds like like that's you know your pursuit in your purpose lineup? which is impact for for humanity for for others, but I think I hope that everybody feels that way because the. No. Oh you know you have. A platform because you have large social media following like yes, that's true, but I. Just I wish that more people understood the power that they have as individuals whether they're in the public eye, or they're not that like your interactions on a day-to-day basis in how you choose to live, your life impacts the people around you in. It's a ripple effect like that is. That is the world that we live in and I. I understand that I am a spot that I can do really cool things and really special things, and create a lot of change. All so think that. Everyone should feel that empowerment and. And even if it's just in simple interactions with their friends or their family, or you know their classmates I think that. I wish more people felt that way. Yeah, let's hope You wouldn't know this, but I just released a book and yet so I'm Super Jack about it. It's called compete to create. It it yeah, it's it but I talk about this in there, which is you are the pebble in the pond? Whatever size ponders like? That's different for all people, but you're the pebble in the pond. Here's an idea that I talk about that. I'd like to roll out with you is. So the first ripple is like your first community, your your intimate circle, the second as it goes our other folks. There's an echo. That takes place though that pulls people back. In. It's a fear. It's a fear of what people might be thinking about you. And that echo that reverberation that comes back sometimes stops us at the first or not even maybe the first ripple that we could get to. And, can you talk about how you navigate other people's opinions about you? Yeah I mean I kind of talked about in the beginning how? You're never going to please everyone like it's just. It's just a reality of life. And We actually we had a national team call with. Melinda, Gates and she I helped to To moderate it in asked a couple of questions in in one of my questions. Like how do you? You have the ability of the resources to do so much in the world? How do you stay focused on your mission and she said in. Kind of not drown out, but against a focus and. And she said. That early on. Warren Buffet told her. You're going to have to define your bullseye. And I was like Oh, I wrote it down I got so excited. I was like that's such a. that's such a awesome phrase to find your Bullseye. And that's kind of been. I've I've thinking about that a lot and it's like what is my bulls eye end obviously like. I said I wanNA I WANNA. I WANNA. Leave this world better than I found. It I WANNA. Leave national team better than I found on leave you know. This this life better than I found it a society but it's it's how you do that in like what are your passions and I? Think that you do have to define your bullseye, because there's so many things happening in the world that it's impossible to fix all of them. But if you are mission driven, and you have a bullseye, you can continue to just. Focus on that you can. You can feel like you're having impacting I. Don't I don't know I think that. Sometimes, it's like Oh. Oh, you wanna see the fruits of your labor. You WanNa. See this change, but you might not see for a while and I also think that's important too to remember and that. Change. Isn't isn't necessarily going to happen overnight. But if you are putting the work in, you're putting the time in your in your consciously making an effort to. Do the right thing and continue to focus on your bullseye in head towards that I think it's easier to. Not Worry about the criticism and the critique. I was wondering if you're gonNA, come back around because I like the question about other people's opinions, and what yeah, and then you went right into mission bullseye and I was like I see exactly what you're doing. You just supplant the attentional space that you could allocate your resources to either what people think about you or the mission, and you're saying not on a mission mission mission mission. No, it lit pivot. Adjust like stay the course on it. It's not temporary. Game. In and then you said that's how you do it. So, I was wondering if you're gonNA come back and close it because what you did is. It makes sense. It makes exact sense on how you organize your life. So. Let's go a couple of quick quick hits. I want to honor your time. It all comes down to. Oh. A Staying true to yourself. You like that you said that. You really like that I love your grinned. You're like yeah, that's it because I think. Like so many people want you to be so many things and to do it the way they want you to do it. Especially in the position that I'm in but at. You have to respect the fact that I am who I am and I'm going to do it the way I'm GonNa, do it in. That is moving to myself and I would hope that. Everyone would be happy for that would applaud that because I think if everyone stays true themselves like. That's. You, don't you don't want somebody being someone else yourself. There's only. There's only that is authenticity. Stay true to yourself but to do that. You've gotTa Know Yourself. and. Then you've got another core principles that are going to help guide you, and then I think you need mental skills to be able to navigate the deep waters, the dark territories, and it's eight I have it all figured out I. Know I don't know no right where the yeah that's. That would be a joke. This conversation, we'll probably ended at minute three got all the answers. Okay so success is. ooh! How do I define success? There's a there's a simple way to do it, and that's the wins and losses column. And then there's A. There's a life way to do it, and that's like How Am I. Internally in in? How am I? Again, creating change impacting for the better making making the people around me better, which will then ripple to the to everything else. And then the key to success for us. Or achey. Key to success for me is not taking life too seriously. Enjoying the journey and Laughing and smiling like I'm a pretty happy person I think that's it. You gotta you gotTa. GotTa be able to. Find the bright spots an life so. have. You done that in this conversation. I mean have we laughed I laughed no I I. Have you have to like, does it? Does this feel like this? Is this what it looks like Kelly's not taking yourself too seriously. I'm definitely taking myself seriously because I think that this is a serious, you know a lot of what we talked about as a serious serious. but I think with me, so it's a balance. It's like I I like to smile I. Like to be happy, and but that doesn't. That doesn't mean that there's not going to be the hard conversations like ooh. How do I explain this or you know the friction of internal feelings or external feelings, but Maybe I guess a little bit. Yeah. I think that this insight holds true for me like if you don't have joy, peace and. Happiness. You really don't have much to offer nobody. Oh true, it's so true! The intellect will not get us there, no it. I love that you said that I agree i. think that some Serbia because I can try to be intellectuals possible, but at the end of the day. It's like this. It's A. Life is about relationships, community, and and joy like joys very different than happiness, though and I think that that joy is what. Drives me I feel like I'm a very joyful individual and I'm thankful that I able to do that because I. Know that that's not. Sometimes possible for a lot of people joyous joy so important in life. What is a word that comes up right now as a word that you're totally keyed into, call it a favorite word whatever, but it's just a word that comes up. You're like is a good word for me. I like this word right now right now. It's action. Because I feel like. Like. We've talked about so much happening in the world right now so important and it's it's nothing the it nothing changes without action. We can talk all we want in talking conversation. Educating listening is beyond is so important. And I'm not discounting that figuring out ways to take actual steps to create change is. In my in my mind, the way that I can be the most useful. Talk about team the beast. Yeah. A kind of. Pairs, perfectly with what we just talked about so. Tame the Beast Grooming Company that I got on board with last. Fall I have zero of time anymore but it was primarily a male focused grooming company they wanted to start to transition more Unisex and me on board to help with that. There are our core values is creating this. One. We want to revolutionize the shower experience. By creating sustainable ECO friendly options and making people rethink about the way that they purchase and stock showers, bathrooms, and that sort of thing And then on top of it, creating products that are high quality and They they're intense in the sense of they make you feel good in your own skin, so a big draw for me was the sustainability focused the eco-friendly direction that they were taking the company. I studied science technology and society in school with a focus in environmental engineering, so sustainability has always been really important to me, but this was an opportunity to actually. Be Part of. Creating the future I wanNA see in. which is like making decisions based on? Sustainability. Profoundly, products. That's thanks, so it's. Been Awesome and then on top of it, it's the Unisex part which is that in a grooming space. You have a dream beauty. You have sometimes you know. It's one of product is specifically marketed to women. Product specifically marketed to two men and. In working with team, the beast I've come to understand that like. You might have the same almost the exact same product, but the female marketed product is up charged up priced. You Know Multiple X. Amount and it's just another instance of like. It's they call the pink tax base basically And so. I was like I. Care about making products that are quality that that people want to use they work and not. Charging two hundred dollars for face lotion, that's actually five dollars. It costs five dollars to me. You know like I've been part of the art research development process where I'll send the products that I, that I've liked in the past, and and they get you know they kind of break it down and look into them and This is the ingredient profile in. and. It's actually five dollars. I'm like well. I'm an idiot for buying that. Go Look. Awesome, okay in tame the beast dot. COM is that right? Yeah, yeah, it's got a great vibe to a lot of energy behind. The brand tone to it. Okay so working people follow you. Where can they be part of your life pursuit in mission? Where do you WanNa? Send them. You can follow me on Instagram at Kelli O'Hara. They can follow me on twitter. I don't think I've been on twitter and I I. Think I deleted twitter during covid was just like it's too much I don't need to be reading this every day. so I haven't been on twitter for a bit but Mike back on eventually I am starting. podcast hosting podcasts for just women's Sports, which is a digital first media company that is just woman covering just women's sports and. Yet going to be hosting podcast that! kind of going to be like a how I built. This tower got here type Vibe, explaining and giving you insight in kind of behind the scenes. Look at how. The biggest names in sports have gone to the level and the success that have and I've started recording without in. It's been really fun. I am a little bit out of my element, but I like a good challenge, and I've really enjoyed the conversations and become even more of a fan from it, so I'm hoping. It'll be. That'd be great it's. Is it up now? I'm all the players be launching I. THINK WE'RE GONNA. Probably launch early July. Okay? Okay thank you, we great conversation. 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"What is going on highs nuts? Welcome to the discourse of very special milestone episode here episode number ten I wouldn't make it cast on international podcast to. Yes. So it's a special day here. We didn't even know tech over there. Just a coincidence. Yeah. Just to the international podcast episode number ten of the discourse. Here said we would never make it. But here we are proving aiders haters lineup. Haters heaters, heart me, Mike. How you've been buddy? I'm wonderful, man. I'm good disco. I'm happy. How are you? I'm a little salty. You keep beating me. I mean, he did he'd be one day. Yeah. Mike spin some kind of putting clinic the last few weeks. He's been drained from from all distances lately. And when I needed human you can that. But like thirty footer thirty five foot around twenty four today, and I had to make a similar putt from kind of on the on the other. Both tricky pucks for deuces and force a playoff. Yeah. Beat me. I I play off all I would have taken a bogey, but an have to putt 'cause he cleaned it up. Got the number one tag for me. Yup. Ahead it for gave the number three took the number one. I had it for not even forty eight hours. Thank you, keep it. Yeah. There's nobody else is there. Congrats buddy wear it with pride. I'm not happy. If you thought I wasn't going to bring this up on the dead wrong. I'm not happy to hear about you losing your ear your team, but I'm very disappointed in myself. I've gotten tireless too many excess re's on the bag and I lost lost my tag team boat. It's out. It's either add bald mountain or cast baton or brise print. Maybe it was today or it's at Regnery man somewhere. All right. We already looked up some new ones they're only a couple of dollars. We're going to get replacements its pool ones. Maybe bigger. So. Yeah. Man up number ten. I'm happy about it in exciting stuff. Definitely. Yeah. Really? This is about our twentieth. Episode we've ever recorded, but we've got some backups for you. Death readings ventures podcasting. Yeah. You know? Yes. We won't talk too much about that stuff Emporia to death. But we're excited double digits. Got some big things happening lately. Yeah. Women's women's US championship worlds. That's been over for while. But it's I would bring in you since them congratu- page and page the pages Greg buyers. Yeah. PB and J. She even though it's even though it's g yeah. Page is little feet of fury there man that chicken Chuck, absolutely. Do. I mean. She can pot. You can drive now. Judge ears perked up when I said five feet of over there. Looking up right now. Once bill. Yeah. The page Pierce Tacoma. Go ahead. You got a nice right up. I don't know not spoil it. Let me let you do your sports thing. No twentieth. Annual UNESCO women's discount championships timber twenty one to twenty three this. They keep saying they said it was Lansing. Michigan was actually hold Michigan. Go Rams of burchfield park. You guys know it. Well, I don't know when they renamed the devils, Dan the renegades trail, I'm not sure why did if devil in don't mix. Devils doubles, Dan, rivers renegades trail renegades trail. Sorry, one hundred sixty four players. It's the biggest turnout for the women's championships. There was only like one girl, and like the junior twelve under ten but still huge crowd. Pretty sweet page Pierce is the defending champion. She is. Now, a two time champion we'll get into how she did it in a minute. But you also want in two thousand fourteen Sarah Holcomb, one in two thousand six they'd played both courses twice. I they did rivers longs. Then they did the renegades trails shorts then rivers edge shorts than they did the rivers or the renegades trail longs. Don't like renegades trail. Why don't I like that? Do you like that? You mean the name or just the general that no I liked I like, the course renegades trail. I dunno. It takes a lot to say. Yeah. Feel like renegade. Doesn't have a trail. Either the lead. They don't leave a trail. Right. I don't know. Rivers. I just and doubles. Stone was cool to flee named Dennis. We liked it. Either way. Okay. So fresh off twenty eighteen world championship victory page beer was in Michigan. Seek out her first US championship along with over one hundred sixty competitors. Just over fifty in the open field. She would tie Elissa tiger borth, except my friend request. She tied her at three over for the first round the youngster. Haley king was just one over par Katrina Allen Christina's to tar and Sarah hokum. We're tied at two down and the one and only peach peers had a so lead of three under round to Vanessa van Dijk and busted out of the gate. She saw a hot round ten down on the renegades trail shorts. The former devils that's the former devil's den course, I don't know why the named it. I don't like it. Shut five down one stroke behind to tar around three the shorts on the river's edge this time, Madison. Walker staying in the hunt. She goes nag nag nine for the round Holly. Finley. Behind her at seven down. And so we end at six under page Pearson for under so they gave her a one-stroke lead over Holly. Finley going into round for two strokes Madison Walker and Vanessa van deacon and fending world champ page viewers was ten strokes back. But are not know how this all happen because I didn't get to watch all the footage. It it is a as pro so go check it out. Maybe the shorts were just like a little too short for these girls. But a. Want wanna get into that from this? But yeah, there's some some of the ladies had some things to say about those movie that for sure but up page peer do shadow, electrifying seventeen under par from the long on the renegades trail. I don't even a lot of shut better from the long way butter from the lungs did from the shore Michigan self she is backed back. United States women disc off champion. She's now three time champ as out Vanessa and Holly who tied at fifteen down for around four. They tied for second page Pierce, Tacoma, just over two grand the other girls split just over a grand Kristen to tire and fourth because Trina Allen and fifth Zoe end and page beer took ninth. Haley king was in tenth and Michigan zone. Liz, Carr Scipion. I believe I don't think I'm saying that wrong because just outside of the cash at seventeenth and tiger borth was. She tied Pennsylvania's Michelle Frazier at eighteenth. So good for them, man. That's a good spread. And. Yeah. Representative as much as I hate to see. Of course, getting hated on by the by the pros by the top the top females in the world. It was a wakeup call for a lot of people here in Michigan. If you guys don't know. Page Pierce a lot of other. There was if you go back and listen on Joe, there's some comments overheard in the commentary about the girls that tear tearing apart our courses not nut tearing them apart is in playing well on them. I mean hating on them because these are the best women in the world. And you know, there's the play a couple of those temporary holes one hundred and forty feet. Yeah. This part twenty four gotta go other pro players come here. The touring pros. They come here. And they think it's a joke. These twenty four hole outs that for some reason. We're stuck in. There was a. Yeah. There was a lot of a lot of women were not happy about the way. The Turney was ran and I don't like to hate on anybody who's. You know, come before me and paves the way, but. The Turney director actually stepped down after this. And he was the president of the MD geo, and he is pretty much announced his retirement from disc- from ocean after this, and yeah, there's a there's a lot of people in Michigan that are not happy for a long time about the way things are going and these twenty four hole layouts that some that. I don't know why people are obsessed with and I everything's par-three and all kinds of silly stuff that only exists in Michigan in the touring pros for around the country come here. And they're like what the hell is this? And I agree with you. I've played in a lot of other places in my young career. I mean, I've played pretty much every corner of the country, you know, and I haven't even playing for five years and. They're not like that everywhere else. It's you go to courses in its eighteen holes in their, you know, the average length is at least like three fifty not a not twenty four holes of Asia arounds like a lot of courses around. Here are not not all of them. But, you know, even our even our big courses are good courses Stony Hudson mills those are still like Dinka don't to people from other part the touring pros anyways. From other parts of the world guys that are used on six hundred dollars and five right? You know, we do radio we do have a lot of tight woods. But that you know, you need, willow. Right. Yeah. Rolling hills. But I love rolling hills that everyone knows that was a wakeup call. And then I I heard it so many terrible things about the tournament. And I don't you know, they this is a major a national championship is on the line. And they forgot to put out the the women's cash CTP had. It's all bought into exit. And then the biz not even just didn't put it out. Then once it was sudden done took the money and donated it so the disco foundation, supposedly, I don't know. But I'm sure it was but no someone was counting on that cash. Yeah. You know, somebody should've won it. You know, some some discomfort who depends on discuss winnings to continue to travel and to play, you know, might sound like a little bit of entitlement. But these are professional athletes, and this is how this is how they make their money yet. They have to win was supposed to go. I'm going to be like these guys don't have these women we're talking about. Now, the men either none of them have guaranteed contracts. They have to go out and win their money and somebody should've won that cash. She and I'm guessing it was several hundred dollars. I'm sure because I know it was two fifty a person. And I believe there was one hundred forty some women registered for this over one hundred sixty Michelle castle over hundred six and I can't field L. But I guarantee many of them bought into that. So yeah. Couple hundred bucks out of somebody's pocket. So you know, I've made mistakes as tournament director. But this is a major national championship. Yeah. The women's United States championship in a it's a tears which saying not even eight year, major bother nature. So yeah, I wasn't. I I hate to see us getting trashed and. There was even a snippet. I believe it was Katrina Ellen said, well, why don't we just pretend that this was a par four and these are upshots the I think that was that. What what page peer said to paycheck. Okay. It's like come on, man. It's like we're getting clown. I know getting laughed at by the by the disco foil. I guess I'm glad butter player, dude. Because I love our courses you too. But you know, but if we want to be taken seriously as disco state we need to up our game. I mean, honestly, if you ask me where my favorite courses are there, California, Oregon. I mean in the best course ever played was in California, China peak, China peak, take a ticket ski lift skids. Ski resort. You know, only open a few months year take the ski lift up and play down. It's like eight hundred foot after eight hundred foot hole just down the mountain. Now, you get crush it. You can easily get a roller that takes four hundred wrong way. Yeah. Yeah. That yeah. That's the best course I've played though. I played Colorado too. And I wouldn't I mean, maybe hit the right courses. But I wasn't like we were playing in the mountains or anything what you mean? I know I sort of thinks would be nice for like when you when you got to climb a real mountain. No, I put some of our courses right on par with some of the ones in Colorado. Eight might have had some nice reviews, but there were holes, and I got a lot of deuces out there. And there were some short courses men. I say one of my favorites with that was in Colorado was John something other park. I'll get back to you later. But it's gorgeous man plays over little creek. And there's bridges and huge like, willow. Trees awesome. No. We need to step up our game though, it was revealed. A hand was we are exposed to the world and as much as I hate that. We're getting hated on very happy that it happened at the same time because there's a feel like this is going to bring some changes. Maybe I mean, if you remember Paul MacBeth slipped on leave hol tan during his eighteen hundred around at toboggan, and he blamed deep heads because they're not real deep ads are big slabs of rubber like, I'm either. And he said, I believe his eggs. His exact words were the feds aren't good at all. And he could've finished nineteen hundred to Sam. So actually though that temporary t- peds at. The women's US championship US WDC. It's a lot. It's plied by Terry. Calhoun? Inventor of the the pirate. Planks? He calls them. It is. I forget exactly what it is. But it's a composite would that has a layer of concrete on the backside and cost about eighty bucks to manufacture. He even he this was his Terry. Calhoun, three time world champ local guy. Just a not always three time world champion designed some of our best courses around. He really one of the most interesting guys you'll ever meet to he was on the Howdy Doody show as a little kid as a little kid acrobat. Yeah. Like this guy telling you, the things this guy calls like, this is the most interesting manual, every meet I hope to have him on the podcast one day. But yeah, he invented the pirate planks, and it was like doesn't try to sell them. He doesn't you know, he is his gift to the disk off world. He like uploaded a DIY video like eighty bucks a piece if you go and make yourself a four by eight. Four by AT pad. That's completely portable other a little bit heavy, but you can mode them in that you can load a stack of ten of them in the back of a pickup truck. And that's a matter in a matter of hours. Yeah. And but that's what they're using for the women's championship on the temporary holes for his pyre planks in. Yeah. And people off them awesome. I love moderating. I just heard about him. Yeah. Yeah. He's got a video to to DIY like eighty bucks a piece from from Home Depot or Lowe's. That's wonderful. Yeah. Maybe we'll put a link to the video in this find it. But yeah, if Terry Calhoun innovator, a most interesting guy, you'll ever meet, you know, so well to have him on one day. Sweet. Yeah. But let's get back to your skip out. What are we are? Now the world championships. No, I don't really got much on the world championships that happened a long time ago spear kiss, you guys know gets Marty it was I mean, if you watched any of any. On the news. A big deal for your kiss than Barbie. Yeah. Kind of he might not have gotten because she's a kid just she's a kid. She one juniors and like twenty something. So right. Yeah. Probably she's thousand twelve hundred. No. I can because I'm thinking too Short's brewing company autumn Berea off. I'm almost done with my of course, lights. I'm drinking Coors light as well to get a buck. How was the automobile? It's it's really smooth, man. I'm not hating on shorts. This isn't one of their better ambers. But it's really it smooth. It's easy drinking. I wish it was a little more though. She was a little heavier little little multi year. But it's still really good. I'm going to have another one. If I if I ever had it on draft. I love to have it under. I'm sure we could be getting that. It was six any day coming and get one. Let me do our draft list changes all the time. It's hard to keep up with it. They're not a sponsor. Right. Who's kidding? No. I'm just saying I worked at. Yeah. Come in. And they are they are going to we're going to sponsor the disc for cost tournament. But Jake Parker cancelled it now. All right. But they did say they would sponsor tournament on the road. I'm sure they would I mean gets sponsor tournament. They're going to give me a stack of five dollar gift certificates that is really more like a five dollar off coupon, which is can't get anything in there for five bucks. Sure, I'd go in there for an appetizer. And a beer could get a happy hour. You could get a happy hour for five bucks. You get it for four. But there's nothing video there. That's tiff not included. We'll championships you know, about that Delaware, right? Yeah. We we can do Delaware and the Canadian nationals both haven't on the same weekend. So things kind of split up. Delaware eldest do real quick, man. Just because I didn't really want. I can't say much about it. Or how it happened of presented by Inova part of the national tour. Newark Delaware, Paul MacBeth beats out Ricky sake by four strokes to finish thirty six under par evoke, man. We'll bury for third at twenty seven under Sarah hokum wins the F peo- at seven hundred par Christian to tar was in second at two under page. Beer, took third at one under Allen took fourth at one over par. Most. I mean, there is coverage on central coast disco believe so rake guys. Ian Anderson does all the time. You're looking at me like what to do? No. Canadian nationals was on Prince Edward Island in Canada, which is owned providence. If you don't know where that is just northeast of Maine, don't worry. I didn't know that either. I had to look it up just wanted to make sure, but I mean, it makes sense world was in Vermont. So some people went north some people went south, Nate Sexton. He wins the Canadian nationals at twenty seven hundred par. He gets the win by two strokes over his touring partner. Cameron Frye who this is like the first time I've really gotten to watch him as well as Perkins. Who's got dude flow for days man has here is not as good as yours, but it's pretty style. Thank you Nate Perkins. Stick third eighteen down the Canadian Casey Hain Mary takes solo seventh place the highest finish for any of the Canadians that Cranbrook British Columbia simul tied for fifth with an young man named Matthew end men. So that was pretty sweet I got that was also central coast off coverage and the one of the big sponsors. There was. Maritime just Golf Association, which is heard about them there in that area. They're encouraged like all even Americans to come onto their turn stuff really cool while Canada. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like way to the east way. Like montreal. Hurry way out there. Canada. Right. Yeah. Yeah. They were stupid of everybody out. There isn't just like the day of two languages English and French, and blah, blah, blah. But the guy would one of the guys in the league carve, the first round was Chris Rashard, but they had a really cool maritime disco really cool like anchor helm logo, dude. It was really sweet it was incorporated. I really just wanted to get a little shout out to them for just being awesome. And having the tournament and lead couple of Americans get the winds, and they didn't let them but. Yeah. One through six while I guess Simon was in their fifth. But now that leads the way for the US championships man coming up not is it next week is the week actor that I wrote it down. It's today. What is it the thirtieth? Yes. Dude. Going on right now champion notes this next weekend. It's the third six rock hill, South Carolina. I wish it was going on right now. I would have said. No, we can't record. And I gotta watch. Right. I would've. Afterward lie to your you're you're you're gallivanting next weekend. So we're not camera gallivanting, the Chicago sounds awesome. Yes. Chicago sweet. But the US disc off championships rock hill, South Carolina at the Winthrop university defending champ Nate Sexton hunt. One ten forty seven rated MacBeth twenty fifteen champion if you don't remember twenty journal germ one in two thousand sixteen but the final round was cancelled due to weather. So would he have stayed the champ? You know? Yeah. He sure why not he's good enough three. That's not how he wanted to win it. I'm sure that's not like to you'd like to, you know, put your period on the end of the sentence. Just let people figure out what it really says also three time champ, well, shoe, strick and Nico Castro wanted two thousand nine the wheel I needed to and the big news, man. Did you hear about this one can climb up signed up? You did how about that? Yeah. Why does it can climb? Credit? He deserves for the utter domination his entire career. So listen to these stats. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Four hundred fifty five career of that's that's pretty much ten years of every weekend pretty much. And I mean, he I think he was in two events in twenty sixteen and one in twenty seventeen so four hundred and fifty five cents two hundred and twenty three career wins. I'm just just. You know, free ball on the top of my head. That's like a forty nine win percentage. Yeah. That's pretty amazing that who knows how many seconds and thirds fourths and places and honorable mentions in there. I mean, they've been going through I saw post a few weeks ago and they've been. I forgot what they call it. But they're going through all of their records and trying to find. So so many tournaments going back like Snyder nineteen seventy nine so it's pretty well documented, dude, we could probably figure out how many seconds thirds fourth fifties as one URS taken but do four thirty in click house dollars eight hundred twenty eight thousand sixty two cents in winning student. You could definitely do it. That's absolutely nuts. So here correctly beginning nineteen eighty-seven three events first place fifth-place fourteenth place. At that difficult to do. We're not going to do it on the air. They'll guys I mean, you can do it yourselves. If you want to climb obese he I know you have the time or if there's a fourteen now is the time we'll time we'll times in a row, and like he berry Scholtz one like this would have been his tenth. And then he won like two more of that. So, but you know, there's so many there's a world championship and discusses there's quite a few of them every year. It's not like there's just a man and a woman there's like five juniors age protected, you know, so discredit, but super grant writer also masters, but almost fifty percent when percentage is on heard of absolutely. Any sport? And I mean, well, I mean football lifetime. I mean a football team wins fifty percent of their games their average. But in terms of like somebody playing against a field life. Look at good for baseball coach if you've got five hundred record, you know, like, yeah. And if you think about that every match pretty much, okay? So for the entire history of baseball. Average win percentages point seven five fifty there's a winner. And a loser every game. If they if they tie that's still. So it's fifty percent is the average win percentage for like a one on one sport. When you're playing against a field of sometimes like forty guys how much of the average win percentage drops out an it's like less than ten. You know? So yeah, I don't think he gets credit for the other. And I know he's a big name too. But I still don't think like he should be looked at like the greatest of all time. I mean, his nickname is the champ. Yeah. I guess maybe I'm just underestimating. Maybe I'm underestimating how he's estimate. Did. Okay. But I think he's the, geez. Absolutely. Didn't get up and down. I mean, people know you say, Casey. Casey. T Casey in the Casey, but can climb climates the goat my opinion. Yeah. I think I mean thrill fi than he could in his primes MacBeth, go out and one half year turnament s-. Then Rick talk about one half, your turnament s- any of you guys. Go half. You turn outs because climate does it. Yeah. And once you telling me that he doesn't even do a ton of the masters and stuff right now. No. I mean, he's just like very, thank you. Will he could be like mopping the floor in those divisions land. Just add more wins win column, but he wants to compete, and that's Admiral, that's pretty awesome. You know what my win percentages? Below five. I think below found no not below five. Well, I have two wins. Like, it's below ten. Oh, oh tournament. Yeah. I have two wins and over twenty vents pull up your you disc, right now what you wouldn't presented o- on you desk. Don't know. I don't know how to find it. Good of your stats. I'm gonna pull up mine too. I have made on this thing. And so long. This is the discourse about disco in one star disco arsenal this, and of course, that this. If you like what you hear if you listen every week mature, you subscribe like and share and don't forget to throw guys. All right, guys. Welcome back. We we had to take a little pause finally stats so Mike what you're win percentage over there. My win percentage is forty eight point three. Now, this is just casual downs. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever I keep this. I mean, I thought I wanted to turn them into that wouldn't matter. But my loss percentage is forty eight point seven and three point percentage of ties which is kind of interesting. I got a sixty point five win percentage on nice five even percentage ties and thirty four point five loss percentage. I'm happy to be guessing the bed. I'm having to be a large part of those a lot of these rounds against scrubs, though. Whatever wins a win. I'm also happy to be a recent number in that win column because you beat me in a few weeks. What did we talked about the? I just wanted to remind on the number one tag take from me today. Retake from the other day gave you ten tag. Tag tune what's up? You took it from who Francisco know what had it. Yeah. Would took it from Francisco what had MIA with it for a minute and golfers and then. Yeah. Us with it for minute. And then everybody showed up to the final night a league. And I didn't win league. I was top guy that had a tag. So the number one. And I had it for not even forty eight hours before that just talking. Congratulations to you, sir. Oh, thank you a little tiny one. So both mountain, man. What do you think? I haven't been out there yet. New course, of course, it's big man. It's big. It's what it I don't want to say the side just confusing because I see what they're trying to do. But like for four they want you to walk across the streets. You walk like in the walking path, and they want you to walk back across the street and go to the whole like there's a little trail right there that we got confused on. But man that place is beautiful. It's big. It's. Risky. I was doing. All right. I was only I was too over going into nine my first round from his shorts. Took seventy. Reggie took an eight and Michael took an ten. Got ted. They both hit water on that. I. I throws her fine. Then I found like three trees in a row, and it's it's really guard. I to thrills are fine. But yeah, usually to throws getting a three of my my upshot for six was well placed from like ninety feet out and the night of make. So what hole is this that was nine nine, and there's only nine holes there there's only nine holes or so are eight they're working on all the pads. But there are at least nine ones they're like some of them are still dirt. When I'm not even kidding you dude when we were there. There was somebody. They had just port eight and there was somebody watching. So you wouldn't like messing up the concrete because that happened. Ziggy beer Kelvin. Yeah. I saw that. One of our local pros called it a par six. And we'll say the long starts at like a two hundred foot right hand for hand for hint shot, and it's like a two hundred. And if you don't make pretty good pro. Yeah. Says it takes him fort good throws in a putt to finish the whole. So that's that's a part sex. He said, it's a par six. Yeah. That if if it takes him for this is the long play. Five wise at a par six because that's what it's that's pretty much. It should be very well. No, that's pretty much the standard is one pot is one to be birdie. Okay. So if it's if it takes four good throws, then a pot that should be a birdie that makes it a sex just one pot. Same with like in in in ball golf apply for sticky drive and upshot in a pot for a birdie. Okay. That's that's just that's just kinda how Pires figured is. You know? It's a tough one. It's nuts. It was great. Course. I mean, not that. I didn't enjoy whole nine is a lot better than us. Absolute. Defending champ. Not defending former d. Let's see that. It was a great course man, we played it twice is a good long cracking. These are tasty. Cheers, choose to you up. So number ten. The haters could stop us. Now, not at all see isn't that good, man? Yes. Pretty good. We put these in the fridge, though, not to have. Yeah. Go for the other should go. There's always there's. There's probably beard here for my first podcast probably to judge can't drink among we bring over a lot week. So he likes his beer though. So he goes out and gets all his own beer. Just give ours are the entertainment beer comes back down. Here. I got some gifts for you guys. Love on your gifts. So yeah, what else we got all the Trenton carts man news, air cloth park jump. Aken downriver disc off man, Drake guys had some of his. Some of his efforts stalled he the courses end peaks and valleys for him. Yeah. Man. He's been working on this for so long to. Yeah. So he got us course, put in and it's great like eight hundred foot holes. And yeah, I think yeah. I think there's like two or three par fives in two or three par fours. But. Has trouble with walkers? Yeah. Walkers man, you can go walk anywhere. You can't play discord anywhere. Can't you can just go walk in walk down the street hat on a stab which courses not new ones. Yeah. I mean like. But yes. So now, the course shut down until they have proper sign, which is almost thing almost, you know, of course, almost didn't even go back. But you're right. It's a it's a good thing. Like, yeah. Because they're not there. There's no talk them. Tearing the course out or anything like that. If people don't know what it is you have to post a sign about it. If there's a new sign people if there's a new basket people are going to be like what is that? Yeah. I was thinking about taking some funds from attorney down the road and getting signs for. Both Brian Spindler. Like, the flat caution flying disc area, you know, put those out there and people see him and rise a lot of the walkers at Brize, they know what's up go to spin Lido, man. And its new people have no clue what you're doing kids jumping on the Basque. It's one of the baskets broke seventeen count. Yeah. Just sheared right off basket sitting on the ground. Nella sorry pulled it out today. It's getting it welded. Yeah. So you know, what course, I'm gonna has proper science duly. Yeah. So yeah, we do doubles. Of course, probably going in. I sit at the adjusted final two Tony didn't get back to yet. But I mean, it's Sunday. We yeah. Monday. So. So yeah, we've held a tournament. Practice course, not a practice course on the temporary course portable baskets. I think it went pretty well. It was pretty clustered. There was four plus guys on there was type thing the entire thing was full four thousand every tea pad and then two holes with six two or three heads six on them. So pretty much one third. So if it really it didn't take that long. No. That was a great turnout. And I thought it was. Yeah. It was a little congested. But I think we all know anyone who played it knows. It's not gonna be another Spindler and his new ball mountain or it's longer than I think it's a great complement to spend on bras. You know, it's not really a course you'd want to throw a big turn yet. No. I mean, I probably you know, when we were first doing I was like, I'm gonna throw all my turns here now, I love this place. But not really that great for big turning. It's a nice, casual course. Yeah. And you know, if you live in that area or live in this area, I'm going to be there all the time to depths 'cause designed well, it's the perfect complement to the nice course, if it goes in the way, we have. Laid out. It would be the perfect complement to Brian Spindler. You got Spengler average whole lengths, you know. There's not too many under three hundred Bryce, driver course, you know, even the big even the big armed guys out to throw in a driver on every hole. You know, a lot of them four hundred. Yeah. Then you got brise where the average whole length is under two hundred and then our layout. Anyways. Average whole length was read around three hundred Dooley's. So you'd have you know, so you'd have like two hundred three hundred and then like three fifty or whatever spent, you know, so it'd be great. But I think so men we'd have something, you know, think about everyone that lives in Royal Oak. I mean, I just I know a lot of people that live in that area that like disk, and they got Wagner, and they star JC right there. So they ever wanna play real quick. They can throw, you know. And now, they can you wanna meet there? It's a it's a meeting point. Now, you know, it's gonna be great. I think it's gonna be really wonderful. I actually played bald mountain with Michael Opinsky. Tony, son. Good kid, man. Big arm. Yeah. To me gets us control down. He's getting he's already pretty good. And he does he hasn't played long. No, no, no, no, good kid. He was. We got some tacos afterward, and they were delicious. He talks to everyone doing dude with the delta cart that have crazy set up like a little clip for his towel and a clip for his phone a little extension for his Potters. And he was talking about whatever his whole setup was oh taco places. Like, hey, man. Howard. Have you tried this? What's that like? Pumped about life man, kid. He's just fifteen years younger than just. Yeah. Damn. That's how old we ours. People fifteen years young kid. Dude. I I know I know there's only one guy in pistons, it's older than me one up. Surprised? There's even one. I bet you there's nobody on the lions older than you. Maybe some defense, maybe maybe some linemen about whatever or old away. No. It was a good around him on my body. Half power. We need around all those hills. Man. It was good. I actually I want around felt good. Over. Reggie. He doesn't get out that much these days you usually whoop on. Reggie don't know. Well, I last other. With. It's just we have the similar schedule. So it works out playing with them all the time separate bags. He doesn't. Let me be a part of ide-. Yeah. I have a work group bag tag time holding number one in that group as well. Haven't been beaten sent all but you lost your tech team belt, but I lost my tactic. I know that's why didn't post the pictures about being the universal champ. Because you know what? Let you have my belt just for the picture. It wouldn't be right. It'd be a fallacy. Where's my both? Oh, it's on my other back on your bag. I've been switching bags lately. I love my bag. But it's too big. It was it was feeling especially after that for like, two months, and I put my hero peck. Like, oh my God. I could barely field as my back. Yeah. Right. But I use in the stroller too. I do like your faucet bag. It's nice. But like not many backpack bags. I'm not like, especially if I like if I'm going to like attorney, and I'm not driving. It's great because like all your overnight. Yeah. Well, I mean, not even an overnight one. But like I held whatever I wanted. It's like I don't need to worry about like getting my Buddy's car at break or something. You know what? I mean, it's, you know, everything you need. It's got a stool holder. It's got a Parrella holder. It's got plenty of space for extra towels in snacks and whatever zones. Everything's ever need. Thanks insulated. Skews little water pipe late at a you know. Yeah. Water water bottle holder got rain fly that just like you have to like find it. Like, you can't even tell you're carrying it and Campbell bladder. Jeez. Literally got every everything it's great. Like if you're on like a disco. Have a bladder in my car in my bag. Yeah. You know? The thing is I don't wanna use it because I don't even know how to clean it. Another washer throw you get like a tablet throw in there. Yeah. There's some kind of like powder thing you throw out. But I don't know. I just got insulated water bottle holder. Why do I need to deal with the Campbell bladder? Well, you could use it bag for you going to Clearwater, Florida. Yeah. I wanna go. It's just kinda short notice. So. Yeah. Thank you. The great segue. Yeah. I got to I got invited to the PG directors Cup. And it's a it's a great event, man. I wish I would have known about it. I wish I would have known about it. They just invited me like a week ago. I got an Email since you're invited to PGA directors Cup. It's two two day. See tear free to play. And it's like a. I tried to. I was trying to get more info about the place. But it looks like it's a hotel with an old golf course on it that the golf courses now defunct in it's not just a discourse to sunset beach sunset something. But yeah, it's like outside. There's like it's kind of like a conference networking event. And. You know, learning seminar for tournament directors, sweetie. Yes. So I really yes. First weekend in November. So I got like just over a month. I registered for the turnament am I cancel? But I just didn't want to didn't want to fill up to sign up. Didn't say free food is with. Well. Yeah. There's there's like three meals free meals. At the Terni and. Free meals at the Terni like at the whatever the seminars, I really have no clue it'll be that. It's a networking thing and learning seminar. So I really wanna go Florida. I mean, that's beneficial Florida in November. Yeah. Florida. November sounds great. But yeah, I don't know. Well, Judd Dudas Beck and Judd doodoo studios having having himself a glass of the dang double double dank juice ata yesterday. Yesterday was judge birthday. Growly thing got some other gifts. Discuss stuff Judd to pile in the pile of discourse stuff. I we haven't orange for the chief because I know how I love your enjoy got here. Oh, dude with the blue. You know, be limited edition about throwing discs at art by Travis. Conley. They're the abominable realm hundred of them hundred hundred wizards I got fifty three out of a hundred you want one hit me up. They the blue, you know, I love it. Oh, it's not need to. Well, we got more up has got fight over color. Graham, black ones, I'm thinking, I can take you. Logitech? Go grants. Imagine you're up. Definitely go blue. What about couple of MVP drawstring bags? We'd try to some info on these. They're not like crappy wants to know they almost like insulated. I tried to. Try to find some info they almost look like a cooler bag. You know, I mean that feels cooler Mitchell. Yeah. Slightly insulated? But I don't know. It's got some hidden pocket. Sign stuff. Yeah. So especially if you're ever like do you want to get out and throw throw a few holes, especially ever get a new disc, go try that out pockets? It's a little drawstring bags. Maybe people. This is for when you this is for people like me that when they travel I can just throw like right here. All embry. I'm not bringing thanks to dental probably dig that. And I love this abominable thrown. Yeah. Hit me up. If you are one of those do you have to do only a hundred maids won't be anymore made ever ever again. Art by Travis. Conley. Great artists. Fast efficient work hit them up. If you ever need anything hit me up a put in contact with them. And he's actually I put him in. I meant to say this earlier. That we're talking about the Trenton course. John pay can hit me up to see who my artist was because he wanted to somebody local. And I was like am I guys that local? But he's great and it's just golfer. So I put him in. So now Travis county who does all my art is doing the sign for the tracfone MacLeod McLeod park. Yeah. And I mean, local or not I mean, he's a disc offer so disco for Li lives in for about. So I mean, you're helping out this community just off community. They're both beneficial both benefit me. So. I would just a lot of forty half outta here. There's gonna be live coverage of the US champ hopping out of here. We are not nearly time. No perfect. Can you get another one of those oughta males? Oh, yeah. So there's going to be different live coverage of the championship. Do they hired a new company called fulcrum media, which I looked into today? Thank you very much. They looked at they're experienced. They do a lot of the shoe ultimate so oh, so probably no. You know, don't get their focus on they'll know what's going on with his own. I guess are going to partner up with Jomo pro. So they're going to have live coverage. But they're always they're gonna have like like an aerial camera. Like unattached our at whole seventeen which right now, I can't picture unless it's the one I'm thinking of and I can picture it. But didn't wanna look it up into ruin it. But they're gonna do like a whole studio show with AB Jenkins and somebody named Jamie Thomas, do you know who that is? I didn't look out. I don't know. Should I feel like I should know? Like when they started doing familiar when they started doing the disco for two or Dixon. Jowls? I was like who is this guy looked him up? And he's like a ten twenty rated and some dude out of some, you know, like, Georgia or something. But so I don't know. Definitely know who Jenkins is he's done commentary before he's hosted other things. So he's going to be like the star of the show, which is pretty cool that they're studio is going to be at holy teen. I guess we're gonna have all kinds of guests and like people from the past. So it should be pretty cool, man. I'm looking forward to that. I hope he we not doing too much college football or can't watch working you of this weekend. Yup. I'm getting likes game day credentials. ESPN game day this Saturday, and I'm using abuses privileges. No all the Chicago next week. And I won't be able to make it. It should be pretty cool have worked there before looking forward to it. Hope they can catch a live disc. Also watching the life of ball living the dream. Yeah. I don't know. Gotta go play somewhere. When I'm in Chicago. Yeah. I guess I gotta go somewhere alignment at ever gonna be. I'm gonna be in the city from like six in the morning until five at night all by myself. So there's plenty of courses. They're going to be on. I don't even know in the city in the city. I don't know. Don't know exactly. My buddy was living in Skokie. I believe in. We were close to the city when we played out. It was pretty nice short park. It was similar to like rain Trie. Well, I know they had one in the city, but then he'll get torn up straight. I I read something they had one right in the city. And then somebody built a building just like right in the middle like took a piece of it. And like nobody bothered to do anything with the, of course, was like shock of it. Just got like remains five. Yeah. That sad. Yeah. And then they like didn't nobody did anything with the park afterwards or anything like that. Like, no, you know, rearranging baskets or anything like that. So it's like, I think it was just like there's not a ton of room in Chicago. No. Right. Like living on top of each other. As it is. Yeah. I mean. The park got ruined and nobody likes so there's like four playable holes or something like that. He was like only nine holes. Well, don't go to that one. I guess. Yeah. But it's like the I remember it was like like university of Chicago, something Loyola Loyola at the one right city thrown out colleges that I know in Chicago. I think it's smaller schools northwestern. No, small all sokaia. Degree mill college. I can't remember what it was called a baker's. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever. They put up a new building. Right. Well, I got a few new sweet discs picked up a disco wizard. The other day from my buddy, James he came out to duly doubles. I was happy for him show up and apartment with Tim. He ended up having D N F. But thanks to come out. Tom was the big help the other day? Thank him to coming out. My buddy, John D came out. It was awesome. He pardoned up time. If they're pretty good round. I picked up the girls did by the. Go ahead. Girls. Yeah. So it work. I don't I work with tub that Heidi. No, no, it was. It was hilarious. It works. So there's three of us that work together every day. You know, we're all three guys in a truck in. You know, we brag on each other. Although, you know, we bust balls. He smelled that you're about to right. Yeah. And so Chuck the other guy we work with you know, the next day. Like, oh, how the Turney go guys Tom's. Like, you know, like, oh, yeah. You know? It was great, blah, blah. We had a ton of fun. I I was like it was a lot of work setting up, of course. And tearing it down, but it was like I want, you know, I wanna do it again. Definitely. Yeah. It's girls well covered last. Yeah. But you got feet by the girls. I think they did come in last. Oh, no, no. I don't think came last. The other guys guppy girls came in last. All right. Oh, they only got beat the second round but fair enough and they were playing with the girls when it happened to. They were they tied the girls they were on the six of the second out. I put the I put all the worst players together. But. Whatever. So the six the to where stumbles and the girls and yeah. And then the girls came in. Both. Heidi Heidi teamed up with her sister. Her sister doesn't even really play right own bag. Yeah. I know she had her bag. You have a Heidi. Probably like, let's like my brother has his bag. Heidi probably gave all that stuff to her sister forces her to come out every now and then. Judd's over their whole back because he does it's true. Yeah. I played pretty much Johnson. Like three years pretty much. I feel like Heidi beat. Heidi beat like two teams amend. Yes. Pretty much. How I what I feel happened. She plays. I guarantee and they were all source John's ever played. Oh, yeah. Take your most of her shots. They're taking most of shots. Sure. Idea. Dare to though we're taking a lot of her sister shots barely ever played. You know what I mean? So yes. Hi. How do you put a weapon on those fools? Congrats. I wanted to women's champs. Yeah. I wanted to call it out at the end ceremonies, but I was like, nah. But here I am. Have on the podcast. That's also, dick. But it's funny. Yeah. But we we have fewer listeners here that I had at the tournament. I'll just say this. You're people listening to this. Then they hear the same conver-. They're going to hear this conversation later. Oh, I also picked up Tim Barham super buzz direct from him hit him up. It was awesome. Twenty three bucks. He autographed for me one of the finer autographs I've ever seen. I got a gal after best autograph? Yeah. What's it? Like, he does the albatross bear on a wall. That's at wanna Doug dot thinking. It's on my lunch. Don't buzz. Yeah. He like Filo dots. The eye with a with a bird just like, you know, the little just like swoop. You know what I mean? But of like, that's the sweetest thing. It's a nice touch. Tim Barnes, and they signature. Yeah. Correct. You though, because my Filo second best signature, Tim Barham will Michigan. Invicta Aguirre decide together day. Do not sure about it. I bought to actually bagged one got the other one. And now they've got the sweet abominable thrown. Thank you. I just grabbed my four new discs. I grabbed an orangutan. Grab the one that was right next to it. And I was like I one looks tight. They won't be judge because he was a care about color. I know you like the orange for your collection, though. I do like the orange especially with the blue the disco. Does bought was orange for what Lou got the shooter? I'm on the show. He's got me holding a what's up, man? You can't come down here up. Up say, hi, Hello aria. She such cute little dog. Who wish you guys Kilombero? Here's my nephew. He's a previous gusto screaming. Eric Heintz, we never post. Anyway, I was going on moving over. Yes. Say hi, hi. How you doing discovered at all lately? You haven't been to ball mountain yet, bro? I know you thrown back yard, you have a Costco basket back there. I've seen it. The he got some pretty sweet Black Panther clause. Been run around scratching me with tease cut my left. Arm off six times alone tonight. That's that's my that's my little nephew there. Surprise. He hasn't done that more. That was a quick one. He's out here. All right. Well, Mike, you got anything to buddy think? So man, I was excited about Dooley. I hope it goes in posted as soon as we hear where on it. You're gonna know on on the Facebooks. I so. Yeah. On the on the book of faces. Yeah. And then the Twitter's we'll try to get to the Instagram you on the new one. Okay. There's another one. Oh, yeah. You don't know about face space. No telling me that's fake. That's fake. Yes. Yes. Face basis fake. I'm on my face. Yeah. It's not as good, bro. Tina fey. Yeah. I love Tina Fey. That's where that that. She came up with that one. They used it. And like, you know on a real show. If it was a real network like, that's that's they were making Facebook and my space my face, and it makes so much Alex face space better face basis way better. I mean, I would sign up for face face. I don't even know if that before if I just came up with. Somebody said it once before, but you know, what the nowadays. I mean. Nobody's original right? It's a little bit wer except the discourse. No one's ever done that one of a kind right here. Yeah. Well, I think that about wraps it up disco man seasons coming to an end but not my season. Discover she's coming in from me to go hibernate for the winter up. I will I will I will throw in the cold. I will I will wear a glove. I will wear facemask I will bring hand warmers. I will wear boots double up pants. Before the before the gets out. Yeah. Definitely. But you know, what's the standard season of TV show like twelve twenty six will. Yeah. For like some for some for some network crap. But like the good ones like HBO and stuff ten ten or twelve. We'll get you twelve. Yeah. That will call that a good season twelve. So we've got a pretty pretty busy lactobacillus. We're coming up too. So. Yeah. Yeah. But man winters haven't they've been coming late the last few years. It's still nice weather. Like every sure I went out like the day after thanksgiving and shorts ones. Yeah. I'm pretty sure we were out on Thanksgiving Day. Oh that day. Well, we wanna talk about that to bring that one up. Again, you already ruined thanksgiving once. I got to get out of here. Yeah. I'm gonna I'm gonna call it over. Man, the discourse upset of tension. Come in, making international podcast podcast. I'm number one champ gloves. Scott couple tax. I'll get back by next time. Tex. Get out there throw guys. 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Women's National Team Files Federal Lawsuit Against U.S. Soccer For Equal Pay
"This message comes from on points sponsor, indeed, if you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes, set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started at indeed dot com slash NPR podcast. From WB. You are Boston and NPR I'm Meghna chucker body. And this is on point the women's World Cup soccer tournament in France is just three months away. The United States women are again, the world's number one team. But all twenty eight players of the US team have thrown down the gauntlet. They filed twenty eight separate lawsuits in a California court last week accusing the US soccer federation of discrimination in everything from pay to benefits to safety. And this battle has been fought for years in soccer. But in other sports too such as hockey, tennis and basketball this hour on point US, women's soccer and the push for equity in American sports. And you can join us the US soccer federation says women have got their facts wrong. Well, yeah. Right. Say the players, so what do you think should pay be related to revenues in US soccer? We've seen similar efforts as I said in hockey and basketball, so what should equity look like in the highest level of sports in the United States doing this. Anytime it on point radio. Dot org are on Twitter and Facebook ad on point radio. Well in a couple of minutes, we're going to be speaking with retired star goalkeeper Briana scurry about what she thinks about all this. But first, let's go to Lizzie Gibbs. She's a sports reporter at think progress and co host of the sports podcast burn it all down and she joins us from Washington. Lindsey welcome to on point. Thank you so much for having me. So why don't you? I sorta just briefly lay out what the players are alleging in in their lawsuit against the US soccer federation, what what basis of discrimination. Are they saying exists? Absolutely. So they are saying this as institutionalized gender discrimination. They filed this on Friday, which was International Women's Day. And as you mentioned the lawsuit comes from the twenty eight current members of the United States women's national team. So they're looking for class action status. So the lawsuit is seeking damages back pay and a and an adjustment of the wage rates and benefits for the women. It was filed in the US district court in Los Angeles under the equal pay. Act and title seven of the Civil Rights Act says that despite the fact that these female male players are called upon to perform the same job responsibilities and participate in international competitions that female players have been consistently paid less money than their male counterparts. Okay. So let's dig into that a little bit how much less are they claiming they're getting paid. So according to the lawsuit top tier women's players would make only about thirty eight percent of similarly situated men's players thirty eight percent. So not not great. Not great. Okay. So we're going to explore this a little bit more later because you know, there are some people say it's an apples and oranges comparison because all the men and the women have different collective bargaining agreements with the US soccer federation. And you know, that that that that's that may be part of the problem that they didn't bargain their way to more equal pay. Correct. I mean, there is a little bit different of a structure. So it's hard to do a dollar to dollar comparison. But what this lawsuit has done is break broken down a lot of the different ways in which they are paid. But it's important to note that this isn't just about equal pay the lawsuit. Also focuses on playing playing training and travel conditions promotion of the games staffing, including coaching medical personnel and training and operations and other support for the team. So they're looking for equitable support as well. Okay. So put this broader context for us because some folks might remember that a couple of years ago. Players filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity commission. Right. And apparently this lawsuit relief relieves that investigation that the EEOC might have launched right? So the lawsuit now is taking center stage. But but the top female soccer players in America have basic have had a long battle with the US soccer federation over a number of issues. I mean, I'm thinking of the turf battle from a couple of years ago. So what has the relationship been between the two groups for for several years? Now, it's been incredibly tense, and I would say at times even hostile between the two groups and look this has been going on behind the seeds for decades, really the, but it really like you said came to a head in two thousand sixteen when they filed this wage discrimination play complaint with the EEOC, and it was Alex Morgan. Megan Pino, Becky, Sauerbrun Carli, Lloyd and former US women's national team goalkeeper hope solo five of the most reckon recognize. Sibal names in US soccer who filed that complaint. Well, Lindsey stand by here for just a second because I do want to turn to one of the United States. Former top players Briana scurry joins us now. She's with us from Clearwater, Florida. She's a two time Olympic gold medalist world to a World Cup champion as well. She retired from USA soccer in two thousand ten and today is an assistant coach for the Washington spirit the capital's women's team. She was elected to the national soccer hall of fame in twenty seventeen. The first woman goalkeeper and first African American woman to be elected to that hall of fame. Brian scurry, welcome to on point. Thanks for having me. How are you? I'm doing well. So so give us your sense your personal experience. Or what you you see did you did you feel the effects of the this alleged pay discrimination in in your car soccer career? I did. And it's true. We've been waging this battle for many decades. And I think what. Important for folks to understand who are looking at this lawsuit. Currently is one of the main reasons why we've had to battle and why they're bringing this toot my opinion is because. The argument that US soccer has made in a lot of people make about revenue and all that kind of thing is not necessarily the full picture part of the problem and major problem. I feel is where the dollars go from the very beginning when it comes to sponsorship like from companies like Nike when it comes to, you know, seeding development programs. You know, if the boys has had a development program through US soccer federation in for ten years in the girls. Just recently got one and 2017. These are the things that create an issue later on and the same things that if US soccer was equal in feeding money for programs for marketing for sponsorship that comes into soccer as the governing body of soccer in this country for both boys and girls men and women you would have a closer closer parody in. News. You know ticket prices, you know, feet sold and whatnot. And so it's it's almost like a backward argument that they make when it comes to. Well, we're not paying them more because they don't make as much money as the men will on my my argument is will you never put the money in that you should have put in and they still win win. Interesting. I was just gonna. I was just gonna. I was just going to jump in and say exactly to sort of reflecting. What US soccer has been saying that that perhaps the implication is why should they put more money in now at the front end. If already the men's game for years has proven to be not an nestling the United States but globally by far the bigger revenue generator. Well, that's that's a great point. That's a great point. And I understand that. But what we're looking at here is you can't argue against discrimination. If initially in the beginning, you already discriminated, so how can we possibly know if the women couldn't be bigger revenue generator had you as governing body mandated to provide equal opportunity for both boys and girls as it's not it's not a profit organization. It's a nonprofit it's it's supposed to govern for for both genders for the entire country and grow the game of soccer. But categorically over time over years. They have purposely in this lawsuit states at several times in their practice policy and practice of discriminating against the women's team. And also if I wanted to get into this. Little bit because some of the differences, the dollar differences seem just kind of flat out bizarre. Right. Like there were a couple of years ago. There was a difference in which US soccer paid the women. I think this is roughly in two thousand fifteen twenty sixteen pay the women a sixty dollar day per diem for expenses and the men got seventy five and then the women got three thousand dollars for sponsorship experiences and the men got thirty seven fifty. I mean, these are these are differences that seem kind of petty and didn't make any sense. Absolutely. And they're everywhere. Right. So it's a nickel here dime. They're they're everywhere. The disrupted and they've been going on for a long time in my generation when we played we had to bump it up just to get it even close to where it is now. And that took a lot of fighting and now, so that's why I think it seems like it is almost like it is a policy and practice because it's everywhere you turn from you know, the quad. Of a flight, the quality of a hotel, the whether you get, you know, per diem. Are they saying that the female athlete doesn't expend as much energy or the female athlete entertainment? You know money for entertainment for taxis for all this stuff doesn't deserve to spend or doesn't allow to head is should be allowed to have as much money and spend as much money as they give to the minister, just it's everywhere. You turn we're having to fight against the little seemingly incremental small things. But they add up when you add them all together. And that's why you have such discrepancy in one of thing. I'd like to mention with with last women's World Cup championship team in two thousand fifteen you know, the suit mentioned that the men in getting to the sixteen round of sixteen made five point three million dollars and the women made one point seven for winning behold thing. Now, the issue in my opinion is in part the US. Soccer federation standard of excellence for the women's team has always been to win not just to show or to place but to win and even though that has been the standard for almost thirty years for the women's side still. Do not give the women good dollars that they would give them in to win and the standard is different for the men who want them to qualify and show Brian to win. Because I want to be clear on something. Now, the example that you just gave from twenty fifteen is that is that money that's coming from fica or USA soccer. It's both right. So part of it is from fee and a bonus structure. So that that's the other argument. Right. That's the other argument. Well, we get the money from fica and we're supposed to your market for for. It's only earmarked for men. Well, the sponsorship dollars that US soccer gets from Nike and whatnot. If Nike said, hey, we want to just give all this money to the women. I don't think that's what would happen. We'll Brown scurry standby for just a second and Lindsey Gibbs hang on here. For for a moment. We are talking about America's top female soccer players. These are world champions and World Cup champions filing suit, alleging gender pay discrimination against the US soccer federation and the long running battle for equity at the top levels of sports in America. We'll be right back. This is on point. This message comes from on points sponsor, indeed when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. With indeed posted job in minutes. Set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates. And when you need to hire fast, accelerate your results with sponsored jobs. New users can try for free when you sign up at indeed dot com slash NPR, podcast, terms, conditions, and quality standards apply. I'm Jane Ho-san and this week unlucky. No USA wisdom into one all female immigrant detention facility in Texas and a specific case to ask how and why this system allows for sexual abuse of detainees to continue year after year. That's this week. I'm not know USA. This is on point a magnet, trucker bardy. We're talking about America's top women's soccer players in the lawsuit. They filed against the US soccer federation, alleging gender and pay. Crimen and the long running battle at the top level of sports in America for equity between men and women. Lindsey Gibbs is with us. She's a sports reporter at think progress and a co host of the sports podcast burn it all down and Brian scurry is with us as well. Two time Olympic gold medalist World Cup champion goalkeeper elected to the national soccer hall of fame in two thousand seventeen and Brian. I know we've gotta let you go here in just a minute. But before we do would you just permit me to to take a brief trip brief dribble down memory lane for. Because I just I just wanna play that moment from the nineteen ninety nine World Cup final that like insane shootout between the United States and China, and you had this huge save during the penalty shootout. And just here's that moment. To take a piddly? That was intense game. I'm still feeling a decade later. I I've never I never thought. I'd have the chance to talk with you Riyadh. I just want to ask you like relive that moment toes. What it was like an also to get back to our bigger conversation here following that massive victory. Did you feel the benefits sort of in terms of all these other issues that you're talking about did US the US soccer federation step up and say you guys just won the World Cup? We wanna help you more. Oh, well, let me tell you what. So that let's start with the really good stuff. Right. I think that feeling I was you know, that team first of all is truly one in a million billion team. I mean, we we were were just amazing squad and each kicker had their job which was make their kick. And my job was to save one. And so we really did have everything lined up as a team for each of us to do our jobs into do them. Well in such a high pressure situation that we had. And of course, we have a flair for the dramatic. That that one kicker normally, I don't my do a certain routine and for that particular kicker. I didn't go with my routine. I actually looked at her. And because something told me that she was going to be the one I was going to save. And so when she came up to the penalty spot, I just knew and so the patient in my heart and in my body was just so like just ready to explode. And then you know, when she kicked it. I can honestly say that people like, oh, well, you know, you think you would have stayed at no matter what no matter where she kicked it. I feel like I would have saved it. And then just the place just erupted. And my response afterward is just you know, I just essentially roared. I wanna say me because I knew I done my job. And I knew that my teammates would do there's and so it was just an amazing an amazing feeling. And then of course, brandy taking the final kick taking off her shirt. I mean that that whole moment in all of that that ten minutes right of drama. He's one of the most amazing bits of sport men or women my in my opinion, and a lot of people's opinions. I mean after you did. Brandy Chastain taking the winning penalty kick honestly in penalty. Shootouts I men or women I can never watch watch through my hands because it's so stressful. I cannot imagine what it's like for you standing right at the goal line. But so. Watch me do penalty kicks in in this go based on fan response afterwards. But in response to the second part of question about the equities piece of this. So that's another interesting element of this. So we at originally, you soccer actually didn't step up. So what happened was the women's World Cup organization committee? They gave every player a bonus fifty thousand dollars each for winning the World Cup. So that money did not come from US soccer federation. Then when then what we did afterwards was we created a victory tour where we took our game to ten different cities around the country, essentially, as you know, to celebrate with the entire country are amazing victory and for people to meet us, and we brought the World Cup trophy with us and everything and we played barnstorming games called the victory tour, and we did that all we organized that. So now, that's actually something. They do on a regular basis for the team. And that's something that we created f night World Cup completely on our own. And with the women's, you know, World Cup organizing committee, and then over time US soccer realized that they needed to do something with it. And so they eventually took it took it in and created in and continued to do it after that victory tours now make millions of dollars for USA soccer. Well, Brennan, scurry two time Olympic gold medalist and World Cup champion as well elected to the national soccer hall of fame in two thousand seventeen it's been a great pleasure to speak with you. Thank you for joining us today as well. Thank you so much for having me, I in Greeley appreciate it and be well, well Lindsey gives hang on here for a second. Because I want to to bring in two more voices into this conversation. First of all joining us from Dallas, Texas is rich Nichols. He's a sports industry lawyer currently representing hope solo in her lawsuit against the US against US soccer. He was executive director and general counsel of the women's. National team players association. That's the union for the national team. He also spearheaded collective bargaining agreement negotiations in two thousand fifteen in two thousand sixteen rich Nichols, welcome to on point very much. That's great to have you. And also with us from New York is Mike Ozan. He covers sports and money for Forbes. He's managing editor and co host of Forbes sports money which airs on the yes network, and we have winks to his recent columns at one point radio dot org. Mike, welcome to you high magnetic, thank you. It's great to have you and Mike. I'd actually like to start with you. Because obviously thus far in the program you've been hearing we've been hearing a lot of arguments in favor of of changing how the women are paid in US soccer, but you don't necessarily see a problem in the pay differential right now. Why is that? I'm going gonna nuance at a little bit. If I if I will if I may the way the a collective bargaining agreements are now structured and the way things are set up with fief and so forth. Clearly, the pay structures are set up mostly tied to revenue and and in most years, the men generate far more revenue than the women and therefore get paid so much more. I'm not saying I agree with that. I'm just saying that's the way it is. So therefore, they pay gaps or easily. Explain men do much better typically on TV ratings as well. I would like to see two major changes as someone who has an only child who's a daughter. Who's now eleven and who likes playing soccer and someone who follows soccer globally on the professional level. I believe that the women need to break away from the US soccer federation. I think it's a lethargic backwards thinking organization, you have a lot of people collecting money who really don't do anything. I think they have to do something akin to when Billie Jean King started the Women's Tennis Association back in the seventies. You mentioned what your previous guest on how they started that Cup championship tour. Well, that was their idea that was not the US soccer federation's idea. It's the players. The are far more creative the women's players. They have far more better ideas. I like to see them set up. Something on their own. I think the revenue enhancements would be great the connection to the fans would be much better. And the second thing I'd like. Because you've laid out a bunch of ideas here and let me turn to rich Nichols. Or for for his take a and the previous guests you're referring to was Briana scurry of World Cup champion. Yep. Rich nichols. What do you think? In fact, we actually have another. We have a commenter on our Facebook page. Doug Larson who says pretty much the same thing. He says the women should just establish their own federation where they have complete control over pay scales. Working conditions and revenue streams entirely independent of the US soccer federation. Well, I'm not I'm not going to address that. Because I think that's just a pie in the sky kind of thought to to abrogate and get away from US soccer's responsibility to pay the women equally. So the first few things I wanted to say that to make it clear, you know, hope solo filed this lawsuit. I in August of last year when she and we got frustrated with the EEOC dragging their feet with a three year investigation, basically doing nothing and hope decided that you know, what rich. Let's let's file this lawsuit now, and and and and and get ahead of the game because it's clear that the EEOC is. Is not going to rule in our favor. If they rule it all, and we just need to keep US Sokha's feet to the fire. So this lawsuit was filed by hope solo. I last August, and we really did hope that at some point in time the rest of the team would follow suit. And we did keep their council informed with the progress of us all the way along the way, including the first hearing that we had a couple of weeks ago in federal court in San Francisco where we filed the suit where we tried to encourage the judge not to transfer the case from San Francisco or out of California, Chicago, but to send it to L A. So so we're really grateful at the team is finally stepped up in joined us in this fight that battle began last last summer with hope and next thing I always hear this notion of pay equity pay equity, this isn't a pay equity fight. This is a pay equality fight. You know equity is about fairness and US sock. Always hides behind this fairness notion, this equity notion that over treating the women fairly we don't wanna be treated fairly going to be treated equally. It's all about equal pay. Equal playing conditions equality is what we're fighting for and this revenue argument is specious. And and my my colleague conforms as wrong on all three fronts. The CBA. Bo CBS are not tied to revenues and the men do not accrue more revenues than the women. The women have historically accrued more revenues than the men and US soccer is owned financial that they presented us during the collective bargaining negotiation in two thousand sixteen reflected that in fact, they even said that the women are the economic engine of US soccer nets true. And the third thing TV written. Let me just finish this. No, no, I'm going to get to the T region. But this revenue thing is gonna come up again. Yeah, it's going to get the revenue. Thing's gonna come up again. And again, again, I just want to clarify something. And that is you know, I think in a way we're in this conversation. We've inadvertently started mixing sort of fee for related World Cup revenues, which the men do make billions of dollars for the host nations for for the world cubs and revenues fruit US soccer, and to your point if I have my facts, right. The women do make more revenue for US. Soccer versus for fi fi in in in World Cup years. Is that right that that is correct? And we can't control what fee for decides to avoid in bonuses. You know, we'll gladly take what they decided to award in bonuses. But we can't control it. But that being said based upon the women's national teams push two years ago, the fight for equal pay fee for did step up and increase the bonus structure with the World Cup for this year. So so the US women we take great pride in having at least contributed to the increase in fief for bonuses this year, but with regard to US soccer revenues, the women always crew more revenues in and the big the big source of revenue that US sock. Just refuses to disclose is the amount of money that US SoKo accrues from their outside marketing agent called soccer United marketing, some some has the right to sell all US soccer assets, including the men's and the women's team. And we we know that they utilize the women's team when they go out into the marketplace to sell television rights and corporate sponsorships that certainly not leading with the losing men's team. And trying to encourage the corporate corporate America Television rights broadcast networks to to by US based on the men's performance, they using the women's performance to go out there and sell the team. And and we did this day. We do not know exactly how much revenue accrues from some to US soccer with regard to the the ability for some to sell the women's team. And we've asked for them we've asked for those figures. Yeah, we rebuffed the US Senate asked US soccer for those figures. The US Senate was rebuffed the EEOC told us they asked US aqua for those figures they were rebuffed. So the only way to to get to the bottom line about these revenues is the file what hope did lasts summer with the women. Did last Friday is to file federal lawsuit in and get into discovery. And we're going to find out how much rep may revenues come to US soccer from some. Okay. Rich, though, I promise you. We will get to the television ratings issue in just a second here. But Mike you've been patiently listening here. Just want you to respond. The rich basically says the whole revenue arguments a total Canard what's your response to that? He has no idea what he's talking about. If you look at the sum of all the revenues that are collected. A lot of what he's talking about depends on how you count money, and he himself just admitted he doesn't know how much of the sponsorship revenue is generated. You know? The there's a big difference between gain day revenue and the revenue in total that whether it be the networks pay or the sponsors like Nike paid. But in a way, I think he's proving my argument in the sense that he's been asking for information that he hasn't been able to get if you look at TV ratings, you know, last year in two thousand eighteen the average viewership for the men US soccer was almost four hundred and thirty two thousand the average ratings for the women viewership was three hundred thousand so you know, it's hard to. To sit there and say well for these national deals where there are many many more eyeballs watching the men that the bulk of the revenue goes to the women. Okay. If you go to the World Cup. Yeah. Hang on here for just saying, Linda Lindsey, I hear you. I'm going to get your response for sure. But I I did promise rich since my turn that turns us back to the TV re TV ratings issue. I did promise Richard chance to. To respond to that. So go ahead ridge. Well, I will say that. I absolutely know what I'm talking about. Because I led the negotiation for the CB for the collective bargaining agreement for the women a couple years ago, and I did get a chance to at least look at the revenues that in the financials that the US was willing to provide us in the financials that they provided us show that the women accrue more revenues than the men, and in fact, their financial projections going through this year two thousand nineteen continued to show that the women would crew more revenues than the men and with regards to the TV ratings. I don't know what rating you're looking at. But the women in the World Cup final in in two thousand fifteen twenty eight twenty eight I didn't interrupt. You. Don't interrupt me. Twenty eight twenty don't interrupt me twenty eight million viewers. The most watched soccer game in the history of televised. Soccer was honest. Well, you know what man I'm not? I'm not going to address your your jump in here. Mike. But why does that one game not matter? I mean, I get it about averages. But on the other hand, I think it's a significant was. A significant marker it for all of American soccer that that one game was broke records because when people buy a an an ad or pay for sponsorship. They're looking at it for across the board. They're not looking at one particular game. You can't say there's no question. The women have been better than the men. But when you're looking at the overall viewership numbers for a year on a year on a yearly basis the men get many more viewers. Yes. So so here's the question. We got to take a quick break in a minute. But Mike, I really would just want to ask you a man you basically saying that we should be okay. With the idea that sports is just merely a product whose only value is measured by revenue. I mean, you just said the women are actually better than the men, but their value is being measured by dollers incense is doesn't that fundamentally feel unfair? No. But but I think it can be improved. And and that's what I wanted to get into a little bit earlier. And and and there are two ways to improve it. And and the first way is the way that the hang on. 'cause we hear music we gotta take a break and Lindsey even very patient. I'm promised to come to you as soon as we get out of this break. Mike Ozan, Ian, rich Nichols. And Lindsey Gibbs Sam by we are talking about the very passionate conversation around pay equity at the top levels of women's and men's athletics. This time specifically regarding USA soccer. We'll be right back. This is on point. Life kid is like that friend. He goes you and your toughest parenting moments. So my answer was do you believe Lucas, you're so Socratic wife kit for parents, an audio guide from NPR and the experts at sesame workshop check it out in apple podcasts were at NPR dot org slash life. Ken, this is on point. I'm making trucker bardy. We're talking about members of the United States women's soccer team, the top female soccer players in the world. Actually right now and their lawsuit against the US soccer federation, alleging gender and pay discrimination, callers, I promise me to get you in a couple of minutes. But Lindsay Gibbs you've been very patient. A great deal the conversation. There's been a lot we've chewed over. So go ahead. Just gimme gimme a quick take on on what you've been hearing so far. Yeah. I just think it's important to say, you know, there's all this talk about revenue, and you can pick and choose years or ratings or dates to prove different points because the truth is this stuff fluctuates a little bit, right? The women in twenty fifteen brought in four million more dollars in profit than the men did that year. Right. So there, you know, it's not always exactly equal. I thought the men a men's national team players association their response to the women's national team players. And this lawsuit was to say that they completely support these efforts, and they are actually committed to the concept of a revenue sharing model to address the quote market realities that US soccer federation, always brings up. So they are proposing an equal division of revenue attributable to the men's national team and women's national team. And they've said that this is something that in their current club. A bargaining agreement that they are actually pushing for. So I think that's really important. They're not here sitting on the side saying we make so much more money, and we wanna hog all the money. They're saying look there's a way to make to pool all of this that everybody is getting and to make things equal. Well, Mike, Ozan Gullit go here in a minute or two. But you said you had two quick ideas on how to right the ship here. And I just wanted to give you chance to let us know what those ideas. One is I would do a model that not only is based on revenue, but is based on success. Right. And I, and I think that would that would really help in the second thing has to start at a much has to start with our actually our schools. And I think that's where women really get short changed. When it comes to the development. One is your first guest said my daughter's in junior high in the first thing that the the B O A, which is always claiming to be proactive about equality and women's rights and all that stuff. The first thing they wanted to do was eliminate two or three of the women's sports in junior, high volleyball soccer, I think girls basketball was the other to save money to prayer conditioning. Didn't want to touch any of the men's sports, and I said to him. I said don't you think any is any hypocrisy here, you always talking about equality, and this and that and the first thing to be oh, he wants to do is cut these sports out. Well, these are then ladies that are gonna go up. And without playing the sports shoes me junior high aren't going to get the support in high school, and so forth on and aren't going to be there. So we're teaching I think the wrong things at a very early age. If we believe in men and women should get equal support in sports. Well, mike. Who covers sports and money for Forbes and managing editor and co host of Forbes sports money which airs on the yes network. Thanks so much for joining us. I'm sorry to have to let you go. But we've got a ton of callers, and I do have to make a little space for them. So Mike, thank you so much. It was great to have you. Okay. So rich Nichols Lindsay gives hang on here for a second. Let's go to Carol. Yes. And respond to a couple of improper facts that would just stated back to you. We'll come back to you, which I promise. But the, you know, there's a there's a kind of balance I have to strike do put out. I do put out that phone number a lot and poor callers waiting on the live like forty minutes. Sometimes I just want to relieve them of their of their being on the edge of their seats here. So Carol is calling from Portland. Maine, Carol, you're on the air. Hi magnette. Yeah. Thank you very much. Good for the women. Good for the women's soccer players. I've been fighting this issue my entire professional careers coach. But there is a chicken and egg here marketing and advertising has to be increased. But for the women you open the Boston Globe. And there's nothing not. There's just nothing about women. And I think it's most of the papers in this country, and the other is the value system that we have why do we value men sports more the women, and why do women go out and watch men's sports, but they don't come and watch women's sports. I think those are the two issues that really make this argument up brianna brought it up, but I think that's. Yeah. And I think it's especially important in a game. Like soccer where you can make a very strong argument that the women may actually play a better game. Carol. Thank you so much for your call. Okay. Rich Nichols your backup here. I know either. Some a few things that you wanted to respond to sa- go ahead. Yeah. A couple of things did not respond to that callers thing about marketing. So I in two thousand fifteen with regard to the revenues the women accrue twenty million dollars in revenues in the men lost two point five million dollars that year on a five million dollar revenue take. So it wasn't four million. It was it was a good nineteen million dollars more in revenues and seventeen million profit for the women that year. And Secondly, I it's interesting the men now come forward and say they want to engage in a revenue sharing. They might actually be an advantage. Now, if they well, yeah. Because I can tell you this during during the women's fight a couple of years ago negotiating collective bargaining agreement. Didn't hear one from the men at all about any of it support or otherwise? And for them now to come indicate that they are willing to do a revenue share is because the women are making more money than. And crewing more revenues than than the man. So they wanna share in the spoils and with regards to the marketing that caller is absolutely correct. US soccer. They actually they actually degrade their marketing prowess in the years after the women went World Cups, and and and gold medals, and in fact, during the negotiations a couple years, they they referred to the two years after a woke up victory is the marketing dark years, meaning they weren't going to spend much time. We'll money marketing the women's team. So it's it's a very interesting set of dynamics that we we expect to expose in the in the in the federal court soon. Well, Lindsey giblets get back to what our caller was saying here because I think she really sort of shines a light on the heart of the matter that she's saying actually, we're all kind of complicit in this because culturally, we just value men's sports more than women's sports. And that and that is what we're seeing here that even in a case where the women are by far more Victoria's in, you know, in in top soccer here than the men are that we still have this lopsidedness because. Of basically who'd we decide to watch who we think is more exciting yet. None of this is existing in a vacuum. Right. You can't which is why apples to apples comparisons or impossible because that's not the world we live in. And I thought it was so interesting earlier when you had a Briana scurry talking about how oftentimes these per diem or these travel accommodations, it was less for the sake of being less, and that's something I see throughout the women's sports. I cover you think back to Wimbledon in two thousand and two thousand five thousand six right before they went to equal prize money. What was the difference seventy two thousand dollars for the winner? That's less. Just for the sake of sending a message that this is lesser, right? There was no magical formula based on ticket sales, and you know, TV ratings that made that exactly fair it was less for the sake of being less. And I think that what's interesting is, you know, our previous guests could see. So clearly how on the grassroots level the investment needs to be there at. The schools and everything on equal level. But this is a chance for top organization to set this example from the elite level, right? So why wouldn't you want that when the money is there? Well, but lemme ask you, though, I'm seeing here some numbers that were provided by the New York Times a couple of years ago, and there if you're talking about elite, then there's also the elite amongst the lead and they're saying that according to figures provided by US soccer since two thousand eight it's played twelve pay players at least a million dollars and six of them were men and six of them were women. So maybe there are places where there's not an imbalance where in could respond to there was I was involved with the the creation of that story by Andy Dawson, the New York Times one thing that he did not include in the Asterix, and graph is that I think the numbers were the man over seventy period of time the top man earned one point four million in the top women earn one point two million. Yeah. Well, there should be an Asterix next to the women's number of one point two million because seventy five percent of that one point two million. We're performance bonuses. That the women earned as a result of. Winning the Olympic Games in two thousand and eight in the World Cup runner-up in two thousand eleven in the World Cup championship in twenty fifteen. So that's the reality. The women's still earned seventy five percent less than the men over that seven year period of time. So to put those numbers together put them out like US sock. Always does about the Asterix indicating that seventy five percents at one point two million for the windows performance bonus. Meaning they have to win win win at the top levels. Just to get paid close to what the man get paid for not winning anything. Right. And put just showing up rich on the other hand, as you know. I mean US soccer would say, well, the men they don't get paid consistently. Like they have to be picked for the team. And if they don't plan certain games. I don't get paid. Yeah. So so the men operate on a pay to play system, and that's the system that they that they elected to exceed two in their collective bargaining agreement. Why because the men would rather not waste their times in and play for the United States because the more the more time they spend playing for the USA each year, the less time, they get to play in the lucrative, international soccer leaks. The women. The women wanted the pay to play system always back in two thousand and four right of through to fifteen but but the the soccer the US soccer would not agree to guarantee that a certain number of games would be played. So that the women could earn that money. So as a result, the default for the women is that they just had to take a salary to in in order to be guaranteed that they'd have any income at off a plan for the United States. So, you know, if you Asaka was willing to to to guarantee the women at certain number of games, the pay to play system would be great because the women can't do the pay to play system now because we don't have an a lucrative professional league to really go and make some money in. So again, it's it's just it's just not it's it's just not a an equal argument. And until we get our arms around all the revenues that the US soccer crews from soccer United marketing, we're never going to know how much money the women are losing Lindsey. This is kind of a part of the conversation that's lurking here that that that the men have the opportunity to play in places like the Premier League in make tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars. Absolutely not enough. Yeah. In part of the reason for this salary is because the US soccer owns part of the national women's soccer league. And now we can debate all we want about whether or not US ockers doing an adequate job promoting and funding the the national women's soccer league. But they want the players they won't US players to stay in this country and play on those teams and part of that is giving them a salary. Yeah. Well, let's go back to the callers Bradley is calling from Richmond Virginia, Bradley, you're on the air. I've been a recreational tennis player for my whole life. And I'm proud that tennis has figured out how the pay the men and women equally it sorted with the US open. I believe in the seventies with the United States Tennis Association leading the way by paying the men and the women champions the same amount. It took Wimbledon much longer to catch up with that. I think US soccer has the same opportunity to lead the way. And my question is how could soccer learn from. What tennis has been able to cheap for a long time? Right. Bradley. Thank you so much fear. Call a rich Nichols. You've response to him. I think if you look at if you peel back the onion on the tennis equal pay process that they get paid equally for the major tournaments. I think the the the the tennis players that play all year round would beg to differ that they're being paid equally as as. As the as the men are in on the men's tour, and with regard to the US soccer pay to play system for the managed to make it clear to the listening public that in that pay to play system tear, the men get seventeen thousand six hundred twenty five dollars per game. If they win nine thousand dollars if they play to tie and five thousand dollars if they just show up for a game. And then the average the average money that a women a member of the women's seen gets for playing. An average game is is is four thousand nine hundred twenty dollars. So no matter how you look at it the women get paying less Lindsey Gibbs. You know, we've been talking about US soccer federation here extensively, and obviously they have their perspective on this. But, but I want to just step back for a moment here and just take a look at how other federations other sporting federations in the United States have dealt with this problem. I mean, interestingly, for example, in figure skating, they balanced pay their between men and women, but it was to increase the pay of the. Men right to keep to keep them in figure skating because the women are the stars there and the big revenue generator. So we've seen other federations tackle this head on why not in US soccer. Absolutely. I think that's a really good point that we have to remember this is a national federation. Like, we're not talking about individual, you know, the premier -ly or purely capitalist. This is to play for the United States so equality, should you know, a lot of organizations of Arjun decided that equality should be part of that messaging. I know that the basketball US Basketball Association, they don't pay their players much salaries since comes from their league play, and otherwise, but all the travel, accommodation and everything or the same. The women's basketball players are very happy with how the US Basketball Association, treats them swimming, swimming. Also, right think swimming done a good job at this swimming, also is on a really good job of this. But you look at other places where it's opposite. Right. Where the men are the ones who are. You know, coming from the league's with all the money and are making, you know, more money such as hockey and women have had to fight for every penny. They earned. We don't see women just being given equal treatment. It's all about the fight before to two thousand seventeen the members of the US women's National Hockey team were paid six thousand dollars every four years that was a one thousand dollar training stipend for the six months leading up to an Olympics. And that was it and they were expected to stay in shape all year round. They'd be available for turnament when they came up. And now after they threatened to boycott the world championships in two thousand seventeen which was on US soil. You know, th there went from a boycott from top to bottom even high school players would not agree to cross the picket line play for this world championship. They actually got a much more fair deal. Now, they're making I think about seventy two thousand. The base salary per year. But there's still a lot of work to do. They won the gold medal last year. There was no victory tour, you know, for the US women's National Hockey team. So it's just an ongoing battle. And I think that's why it's so important what the women's soccer players are doing. They're saying. Yes, we've achieved a lot. But there's a lot more to go. Oh, and plus we deserve damages and back pay for the times when things were worse rich nickel. We've we've got just a minute to left ago under a minute. But go ahead and give us your last thought a couple of things that were made clear also said, you know, you're a soccer is not hiding behind their belief that the women don't deserve to be paid equally. In fact, in in the in the lawsuit filed by the team on Friday. There was a a high level executive from US sock during the negotiations couple of years ago who said the following quote market realities such that the women do not deserve to be paid equally to the men on quote, and then another high level executive during these same negotiations said, quote, the level of competition of the women's game is. Not the same as the men. So the women do not deserve to be paid the same as the men that from US Sokha. So that's their position. And and they're going to have to defend that position in federal court right in federal court and also perhaps in the court of public opinion as we have the women's World Cup coming up this summer. And as we keep saying is ranked number one multiple World Cup champion. So we'll see what happens rich Nichols sports industry lawyer and currently representing hope solo in her lawsuit against US soccer. Thank you so much for joining us, rich. Thank you, very much and Lindsey Gibbs sports reporter at think progress and co host of the sports podcast, burn it all down, we've got links to her reporting on point radio dot org. Lindsey it's been terrific to have you. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm Meghna Chakrabarti. This is on point.
A conversation with Joanna Lohman
"Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of colossal with carlson. Paul we are your host coach carlos. Today's episode is presented by clarks story. Began almost two hundred years ago. When cyrus and james cart maybe flipper from sheepskin. At the time. It was groundbreaking a combination of invention and craftsmanship. That's remain at the heart of what cards does from. The very beginning clarke has always thought differently. Really beers are. What set clark's apart. We are teaming up with parks and potty go to bring you up to thirty percent off on select items including including the iconic carts desert boot by going to pod go dot. Co slash. clark's that's p. o. d. go dot co slash c. l. a. r. k. s. Oh man of course as i'm speaking right now a little nervous. My heart is racing because we have a special guest out very special guest. I'm so excited for today's show known as the rainbow warrior. She is a former professional soccer player and a member of the united states women's national team over his sixteen year career. She has built a platform for social impact and became the first player in washington. Spirit history to have her jersey retired aka. she's a goat. The as a human rights activist teacher and served as a sport diplomat traveling the world and running programs in less developed nations that promote gender equality conflict resolution cultural understanding and economic development. She is also a celebrity supporter for dc scores. When is they sent that. I'm very familiar with so we who is yukos for And we can also add a newly anointed author. This is she recently. Wrote a she recently wrote and published a book called raising tomorrow's champions a book that carli lloyd a two time world cup chance champion called one hell of a book. I agree so without further ado. Let's give a huge colossal. Welcome to joanna lohman. Welcome to the show. Joanna thank you so much. I feel like like my life should be going off at my house. Like smoke. Should be sprang love saying like that my room and had just blah but no thank you for that for that incredible intro. I'm so i'm really happy to be with you. Guys today to talk about the book in all things soccer. A worry thank you. Don't don't worry we'll definitely add special effects. Yes before the drought so join. Elizabeth jump right in it My first question to you is for listening to that may not know Who you are a little bit about yourself. Yeah i would love to played professional soccer for sixteen years. I grew up in the dmv up in silver spring maryland. We got a raise the roof on that one Penn state university and four time academic all american and my gpa. All was three point. Nine eight okay. I just wanna throw that out there because it makes me who And then i went on to play professionally for sixteen years also with the. Us national team ended my career with my hometown squad. The washington spirit shout out and like you said i was the first player in washington history to have her jersey retired which was an incredible honor. Because you know. I never wanted. Championship spent a lot of time sitting on the bench here and there so it was really special for me to to receive that honor and to know that it was more for my rainbow warrior personality than than sometimes my onfield performance but but credit to the spirit for doing something like that awesome off of yet. I remember. I saw i went. I went to a couple of spurs games and just remember the intensity and passion and the and the awareness that you that you bring to the game So it was amazing to see you play and I on the news when you're when you're Jersey got got hung and and got retired. So i think that was a special moment for all the washington spirit fans and also the young. The young ladies that have seen you play throughout these years on. Just thank you for being a goat. And i don't know if you wanna go in a little bit of detail how that that that the the nickname that you've got the rainbow warrior. Yeah i would love to so at the age of twenty one. I came out i was still in college. I was engaged to a man. So i did. A complete one eighty shocked the parents. And really i always came flying out of the closet. I got i got hit by the gay stick. You know what. I'm saying. So i just knew right away that this was the life i was going to lead and not to sell myself short but i didn't realize necessarily at the time the platform i had as a professional athlete to really speak my truth but i lived openly. I lived honestly. I was very proud of who i was. And just naturally i became. I would say a spokeswoman an advocate for the lgbtq community because it was so close to my heart and i would have fans and supporters. Come up to me. After the game and they would share their stories of coming out they would express their gratitude for for for being. Who i was and i was just so floored that just through living an honest life i can make this sort of impact on people so it just it was like the greatest gift i could give and it and it gave back to me too. So it just kind of snowballed and i consistently took on advocacy roles. In i nicknamed myself the rainbow warrior. I most recently was in a documentary called resistor hood Kind of serving as the rainbow warrior. And i it was. It was really amazing for me to see the impact. I could make on an individual's life and help them to feel more comfortable in their own. Skin awesome awesome during those listeners. Who follow us now. You know if you're curious now you know where where where. That name generated And so just to move on a little bit. Join up my second question to you is. What was the motivation for creating Your your new book raising tomorrow's champion. Yeah that's a great question. I think the motivation for me personally was to be able to share my own journey I do that through the sidebars in the book but most importantly was to uplift these voices of the greatest soccer players of all time. You have such an incredible group of role models through the us national team and i'm talking throughout their history until nineteen eighty five until the current team. Now you have a group of bad ass. Women who are pushing for equality pushing for justice and then by the way like absolutely dominating on the field so i wanted to be a. I wanted to create a platform where i could uplift these voices and share their experiences as learning lessons to parents today. Who are trying to raise happy. Authentic kids because it's hard right as parents. It's difficult to know what the right answers are. Especially through use sports because it can be a minefield so to speak is my is my kid trading enough training too much change club teams. Is their coach yelling. Too much like we try to provide these answers to parents and to remind them that being a champion is trying your best and living authentically. It's not you know. Being a champion isn't making the national team. Being a champion is learning to be a team player is absorbing all of these lessons that sport gives you and you're going to end up somewhere amazing right. You're going to end up at the top of whatever you choose to do in that. That's winning in our opinion so we really wanted to use these voices of of the most amazing soccer players of all time to provide these lessons to parents because what better way to learn about leadership than abby wambach right. What better way to learn about overcoming injuries then travel herself and what way to to learn about embracing your role on a team crystal done right. It's just it just makes so much sense and these voices are so powerful. We wanted to share them. Yeah if everybody can see by our reaction. I was nodding and yet thing. This'll be a woman. I know i have had conversations offline we had coaches that yield that us coming up the system Quick story i ran into abby wambach when the the women's national team did Their qualifying for for. I think it was a two thousand fifteen world cup and they did at our gay and you know she was like you know we have the same colored beanie. That's really cool. And i was like oh and then also i. I'm pretty sure people can can learn from your soccer history to like coming back from a a very complex injury And then being able to ball a couple of months after that that really like signifies who who you are as as a person in spirit so appreciate your your your answer to that and you know discussing a little bit more about the book. I know in raising tomorrow's champion. It includes a discussion about the downsides of pay to play system in the us So would you say that. There's a growing recognition in the country. That the pay to play system is fundamentally unfair and that there needs to be more opportunities for financially disadvantaged youth the place to play the sport the first chapters of our book really address issues that we feel like kids face today. A that revolve around gender. Lgbtq issues and race and part of that is the pay to play system because we do feel like there are a lot of underserved communities when it comes to us sports especially youth soccer. I think it's always been been known to be a suburban more economically strong sport and it it really leaves out a lot of players from the inner cities it leaves out players who can't afford to pay for these big clubs so we really wanted to highlight some of the groups that are doing great work and providing scholarships for lower income families to play in club and also to remind parents that you know playing for the most expensive club. The most expensive coach isn't always the best answer right. It isn't always. It's not a guarantee that your daughter or your son is going to make it to the national team. Definitely a guarantee that you're going to spend a lot of money but also to that that comes with a lot of pressure it comes with a lot of. I would say expectation when you put that much money into sports. And i think it takes away from the beauty of what sports does provide at any levels or provides these incredible learning lessons every single time. You step on the field and you don't need to spend ten thousand dollars a year to do that right like every time you step on the field. You have an opportunity to win. You have opportunity to lose to be a part of a team to focus learn. What determination is competition and these. These are the most important aspects of sport. It's not how many games do i wanna season. It is not. Do i make the all star team is not. Do i play in college. It is m. i. absorbing these lessons that's work gives me and as a parent in my allowing my trial to absorb these lessons. Or am i stepping in so frequently that i am actually hindering my child's development through sport because i am not letting them experience that painted failure. That you that you just inherently get from from stepping on the field. So i think the pay to play system it needs to be addressed and i hope that in our book remind parents that it's it's not necessarily the best thing for your daughter or son or your child. Touch is actually on the route behind. Why we started this podcast so we definitely wanted to to talk about that today so Just in terms of gender equality in lucidity your house leader when it comes to both. So what advice. Or what ideas do you have in terms of boosting both of those. Yeah i mean. I think in terms of gender and inclusion we. We need to get rid of the the whole concept. That sports is for for boys right. That girls should play sports benefit enormously from playing sports. they Having the opportunity to play sports as human right. it shouldn't have anything to do with gender and also to you wanna you wanna encourage and create safe spaces where people can be their authentic selves. So it's really important for coaches to understand the language of how to create a safe space to use gender inclusive language to make sure that you're very welcoming for anyone who identify as lgbtq plus. I know a lot of those individuals feel excluded from sport in. I think we need to do a better job of dismantling the concept that sport is such a masculine concept because it it doesn't bode well for the for the women were for the men right. That's one of the reasons why there really aren't any out male professional athletes because it's just not an accepted area for us so i think we need to do a much better job at first of all creating and building up safe spaces in dismantling the idea that sport is you know revolves around being some sort of like masculine gladiator You can be your authentic self. Whoever you are and still play the sport well and enjoy the benefits of sport. It shouldn't just be an elite athlete. So he had a group of young young children. Young girls in front of you on the pitch. What advice would you give to to. Who may raise your hand said draw. What should i do if owner through a career in soccer. Yeah i mean if you ask a youth team these days if you wanna make the national team i would say every single player raises their hand and you know my advice would would beat. Of course you want to always dream. Big and the us was national team. Players are incredible role models to aspire to. But it's important to understand what those day to day decisions look like that enable you to get there and that is a lot of dedication a lot of hard work choices that will will Choose the sport over a lot of social activities that you have with your friends and a heck of a lot of practice. So i think you know i think children want the magical answer. They want the magical wand and just to make the national team. But i would really reinforce that this is. This is a lifelong journey. And if you're up for it. I think it's amazing and If you do it right you're gonna end up somewhere great even if it isn't the national team But it's really it's a day to day thing right and it's a day to day thing that that you choose to make All the right decisions around health and in practice nutrition to really be the best that you can be so this may be too early to ask type of question. But i know you're you're always got something going on so i figured we'd ask you this so now that the book is out. What are the products you got on the horizon. Yeah you're not the only person that's asked me that. And i wish i had a better answer and i think what's been so beautiful about my life is that it moves so organically and i say that in a way of i really i value my time and the freedom of my time so i've purposely taken on projects that i am able to control in lead myself so i'm in control of my own schedule. So if cool opportunity comes my way. I'm say yes because i have that control. So that's kind of way i envisioned. My life still is using book as a platform and as a building block for the next phase of my career and that's going to be speaking events regarding the book that's going to be continuing my training for small groups and for individuals Training on the field. That's training off. the field. confidence building helping young girls to really be their authentic selves in feel comfortable in their own skin and then you know there could be a second book on the horizon. There could be the jolo soccer academy so there's a lot of ways at my brain is is starting to shift and i think organically it's gonna it's gonna figure itself out. Oh man you guys heard here. I don't know if you guys heard of here. I or or if you know joe joanna's giving us some hints but They tune the tunes. Those future projects right right Joanna absolutely that academy sound enticing. Yes any you know. Hire me for anything. I'm i'm the jack-of-all-trades man. You know what i mean. I can come to birthday parties. I can speak the head guy. I agree and i like you know. I'm throwing my hat in there. You know some volunteer coaches I all i ask some some cool gear. That's you got it. you gotta have. Oh and so. I kind of wanted to before before. I have a couple of questions before we End the session but something for me. That really stood out. And there's something that I grew up. I remember watching the ninety-niners winning the world cup. Brench thing you know just taking off her story. Yeah lexin those muscles but to me somebody who i really love watching play in Kinda was mesmerized is mia hamm so hot. Yeah in your opinion how did how did like mia hamm. And the and the brandy chess scenes than the stories. How do you think they kinda shaped an influence. What is today the women's national team. I wish. I wish we had two hours for this question. But you know i would. I would say all the way back until nineteen eighty five when the the first you asshole team existed. There have been these pioneers who have shaped the game. I'm talking about april heinrichs. I'm talking about michelle akers. If you read in our book there's some really powerful stories of michelle akers in third grade standing up in front of her class. You know what what she wants to be when she grows up and she says she wants to be mean. Joe greene from the steelers plan. The nfl and her old school. You know female teacher pushes back and said you can't plan the nfl m michelle akers. You know she's so shy and she she's you know. Snap back at our teacher. And says yes i can and basically gets sent to the principal's office and her mother comes in and then you know skulls the principal telling the principal. Like how dare you tell my daughter what she can be when she grows up. So it's like little stories like this throughout the us was national teams history where you see the evolution you see that pushback against gender norms against the idea that that sport is only for men that soccer can only be played by boys. It's just it was so beautiful for me to hear these stories. Because i felt like i was doing. Dna test right. Like how did i come to be. I came to be because of them. And you touched on a ham. Brian scary and brandy chastain. And you guys know this like. They had to sell every one of their own tickets. They exceeded every single expectation for that. Nineteen ninety nine women's world cup. They wanted to play a bigger stadiums. They knew they could sell the tickets and even for them they were driving to the world cup final and there were like literally people doing here you know like they were even shocked by the interest but they never turned down an interview. They went to every single club practice they could. They were on every single radio station like they were their own advocates in. That is just such an incredible thing to understand. Is that these. Women have advocated for themselves time and time again and not just for themselves but for like me for the generations today. They have paved the way in blaze that trail so mia hamm is such an iconic figure. Nike created their women's soccer brand around me a ham. The story of joe ellsmore in chapter one. You know having mia hamm down what she wants in life on a napkin and taking that up to the top rungs of nike. Like if that doesn't give you goosebumps. I don't know what will you spoke to. Joe ellsmore the other day on the phone so to have this connection with that earlier generation of players and to know that mia hamm the there was no path for her right. She created herself. It was the passion that she exuded on the field that enabled her to get that nike contract for nike to develop a women's soccer brands. So it just i can't. I don't even have words for it. It's just so monumental to me and wrench saying ripping off her shirt and flexing those muscles and getting on the cover of every single magazine and it was. It was life changing not just for them but for every single youth player for every single women athlete for every woman of that generation and everyone. That's come after them. Life is different because of that moment and because of the work that they put in. And while i love to highlight that ninety nine women's world cup final. I'll also went to highlight the work. Back from nineteen ninety-five title nine. All of this work. That these pioneers have put in that. We all now benefit from not totally agree. You know ninety nine is like i guess. That's what you know people nowadays really kinda go to but it was very interesting to read. You know that. I and i. I'm a soccer buff. So i like to read up on men's and women's history and i know the usa like they won the first world cup. The women's national team on the first of all the ninety one and when they came back it was like a handful of journalists. That really question is like they didn't really care but that they that like they wanted to keep going and it was very interesting to see you know that. The national team got invited to just solo company in italy and and lost three times of taiwan. Yeah you know. I bet you people based off that. Say they're not gonna you know whether they're not going to be anything and then look at them now. You know twenty thirty years now and it's like they're on top of the of the of the women's gaming so impressed. Yeah i got i can i can like you said i wish we had We could meet for a cup of coffee and just And which which leads me to you. Know my last question before we get out of here. this is something. That correspond are deeply rooted in. This is something that i'm very passionate about. I as i mentioned in episode. I you know we're coaching. Dc scores So for me giving back to my community and actually Given giving more black and brown children a platform for for free and eventually saying. Hey you know what coach carlos costa father. They're you know they're giving me that that To yeah chase that dream like yeah. I like we want you to chase that dream. Go hand try to be a soccer player. Like there's gonna be hard work like you've got to put into to work you know but So my question. In your opinion how can we include more black and brown children to play soccer in an city community. I love that. I love the work that you guys do like. It's it's so admirable You know that. I'm a huge fan of dc scores and atas midday huge impact on my life of seeing these kids recite this poetry and then seeing them on the soccer field. It's it's it's it's so incredible to me. They've often try to get me to do poetry. And i'm like there's no way i'm getting on that stage. You know what i'm saying. You're poetry is on the field. Wow exactly there you go thank you very much. That's the excuse him into us next. I won't stand up in front of the mike. But i think what you said is so important. I think i think everyone deserves the opportunity to play sport and as a diplomat who travels the world have child to africa the past four years prior to covid. I am working with kids. In some of the you know the most of the poorest areas in some of these countries of kids who have never played soccer before in their lives and for me those are the most worthwhile and impactful experiences because they provide you perspective and they provide the you know the whole masters that were trying to send is that. You don't have to be an elite athlete to get the benefits of sport in everyone. Everyone deserves an opportunity to step on that field and play so to make sure. These opportunities are presented Brown and black people are so important for me because we're talking about a lot of inner city youth that don't get an opportunity We're talking about the people that would really really benefit from playing sport from these lessons from. Just you know the of stepping out in the field of losing that stress in life for just an hour of being able to play with your friends right and kickable around the joy that you exude play. This game is irreplaceable. So i i'm a huge supporter of de scores of america scores. I know man city and new york city football club doing great things up new york of really trying to get soccer fields in the inner cities giving access to these soccer fields. You know a lot of a lot of organizations locked their fields up you can never get on them the page tons of money to get on the field to really just getting the fields. They are getting the coaches. They are getting the opportunities for these kids to play. And as you guys both know it doesn't have to be these world class like technical trainings. It's just roll a ball out. Let's kids play. Let them have fun. Make sure everyone can play. And all ages all genders just all skill levels. It's it's so important. And that's why i want to continue to work with these organizations that provide those opportunities to kids and i'll always be a huge fan of dc scores. Thank you for that. The wonderful response china on speaks out the scores. You know i love scores. I know you participated. You've been the brand ambassador faster than you still contain to support them And also shot to all these these nonprofits and these grassroot organizations are like you said they were providing the fields that are providing the space is so they all all genders all races. All types of skin colors are playing of the beautiful game. And i remember you saying that here in the us. Soccer is the most. I i i. I think you said the most diplomatic were doing most. I know it's one of those things that you said in the documentary that yes all around. The world knows diplomatic sport. But here in america it's not correct and going back to what what we were talking about earlier about the pay to play and all these advantages that put or disadvantages. Sorry that are put for for black and brown using in in every other child that wants to plan doesn't have the upper. The financial means to play so look in the back of the book. We have organizations that are doing incredible work in this space. And i wanna say one. More thing about the national team players is that so many of them have said started their own foundations. They are giving back to the community. And i think that's one of the most powerful things about this team is that dominate on the field but then they also provide a better future for the for the next generations and a lot of this is through the work that they're doing in these in their communities correct correct and but that being said i i know we gotta regatta. Shout you out for not just a book but for also a hopping onto the show and in giving us details and expressing yourself so we really appreciate you taking your time to chat with this for your energy I you know. Hopefully i when i grow up i get to be as as impactful and ns strong and as wonderful as you already are. You know you're you're the go and If anybody if any one of our listeners wants to Get a copy of the book. You can search Raising tomorrow's champions on amazon or you can go to. Rtc soccer dot com. Is that correct. Yeah that's correct. Thank you so much where it's gonna hit amazon. Prime on march fifteenth. You can get it. Quick shipping free shipping We're excited we're excited to share the spoke with the world and thank you guys so much for having me on and for your knowledge of the game in what you give back. It's been it's been a true pleasure worries Again thank you. Of course we we've been waiting like we've said on the i. I know that patient. I appreciate all no no not has nothing to do with you. you know. i know we've been. I've been telling folks. We got from comment if we were i. I was texting in three months ago. I was like you're not gonna believe this now around all been said yes. Yeah do the nfl. So we're we are our our first pro. You are i us on our so. We'll think will definitely send you a A certificate you know yes. Yeah if hopefully Hopefully christmas done is is listening. That's that's another guy who hopefully you know. Fingers crossed no but again. We just want to appreciate you hopping on a show Again if you wanna find Join a loehmann's book. Amazon search amazon. Rtc soccer dot com and like she said starting march or you can find it on amazon. Prime also. Please make sure you you subscribe to our facebook. It's galasso with carlos. Paul that's g. o. L. a.'s. Oh with qasim pond facebook. You can find us on. Twitter at galasso podcast. Twenty all right. That's g. o. L. a.'s e. o podcast twenty. You can catch this special episode the lohman on spotify on apple podcasts on bus pro on all these platforms just type galasso with carlos. I'm paul and it will be available on whichever platform and you get your podcast and with that being said. Thank you everybody who hopped on the show today. Thank you paul. Thank you coach joanna. Because you are coaches well and thank you to our listeners. Hopefully you you've enjoyed the episode and we will see you back soon extra. Yeah no thank you. That was really fun. Thank you so empty.
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"When was the moment you discovered that you were meant for the business world. You've been getting a lot of inquiries from employers and then you started looking for the best sources of information. Technology is challenging the regulators doctors use virtual reality. Look i feel like the world is courting elon. Musk which is how you got here. Howard other bankers restricted now bloomberg radio the bloomberg business app and bloombergradio dot com bloomberg. The world is listening stinging twenty four hours a day dot com and the bloomberg business app. This is bloomberg radio now global news. Update taylor sander had fifteen points as the united states. Men's volleyball team won. Its opening match against france. The americans won in straight sets in just under an hour and a half of action. The united states women's three x three basketball team won both of its games in the team's olympic debut cat ostermann and monica abbott combined to one hit mexico as the united states softball team won two to nothing. China's still leads. The overall olympic medal count in tokyo with four three gold one bronze while the americans are still shut out. South korea has three medals. One gold and two bronze italy and japan have each won a gold and silver medal. The white house refuses to disclose the amount of cova nineteen cases among vaccinated staff press secretary. Jen psaki dodged the question from reporters on friday only saying that vaccinated individual.
"Original. Welcome to the mother of all shows. The podcast takes a deep dive into motherhood and parenting with a comedic twist, because if we can't laugh when your five year old ask and I cut my banks. You're like you know what screw it Andrew Perez scissors that we're all screwed I'm your host Kimmy Gatewood? Childcare is an enormous problem in this country as a mom with a career, the first few weeks of this pandemic were highlighted with zoom calls with Cameos from my child cute, of course for a minute, but then these potential bosses will only see me as a mother say things like that must be really hard for you think. I'm too busy with my kid to hire me. Shame spiral rage spiral. Underlining this crisis is that many working parents rely on school for childcare pending a miracle, it looks like many schools will not be opening in the fall due to cope in one thousand, nine hundred. So, what is the plan for working parents? We have no paid family. Leave Program and no subsidized child care in this country, and without new and creative solutions and fast the pandemic will scar a generation of working moms disproportionally. But maybe there was another way today. My guest is one of the many working parents out there who has had enough? Just, is the founder and CEO of the recently created I'm Nico a childcare solution for Corporate America? I'm NICO creates a new way for businesses to retain key talent and lost revenue due to family and medical leave with employer, sponsored onsite infant care and a wellness space for new parents. Basically, it allows parents to return to work with their baby. Jess was preparing to launch Omni Nico. When Cope nineteen hit and g quickly shifted gears to figure out a way to help essential healthcare workers with emergency childcare relief, working with the state of California, and she said it'd be certified facility to eight frontline workers. She is a mom that gets things done. Please note ahead my conversation with just before the recent USC decision not to open schools in the fall. The infrastructure she set up in the early stages of the pandemic could be a future blueprint for working parents caught in the hell of work and home school. Here's my interview with Jess. How much do women lose financially by having a baby? So. This is an interesting question. It essentially has a name what you're asking. Which is the Motherhood gap or the Motherhood pay gap, and essentially a woman is going to lose sixteen to twenty thousand dollars a year for having a child, and even more so collectively at the office fifty seven billion dollars. A year is lost in corporate America for women who are on family or maternity. Leave Absenteeism. That's. Attached to having that child leaving for doctors visits the emotional strain, the the physical strain all of this. Is Sort of ball up into one big the cost of having children for women, and it is absolutely motherhood penalty and is in the United States. We should Botha. United States. Because other countries somehow figured it out. They have. But you know this just in you know my past work with we both notice that there is there fulltime employees who are impacted whereas they aren't able to get raises and promotions and part time employees who get no paid family leave no paid sick leave. Paid sick leave obviously the different conversation now because of Kobe. But I think the the issue still remains that there's no support and therefore if you're missing work for two months, you're already two months behind, but then you also have to take the kids to the doctor. You're expected to as a woman in general right or penalized for that is kind of what we're talking about with the motherhood gap right and you have to make really big decisions about 'em I staying home. Do I have a one parent work full-time? What happens when there's only one parent like myself? For instance I've got to work because I need to I need to have an option for insurance for us. I have to pay that they have to pay. Extra, care support and all the other things, so we have been. We are broken. We know we are broken. We know the system does not support a working parent and I M Kimmy I and I say this I truly believe in. It is my desire to radically shift in my lifetime. I love it. You just gave me chills. I think what was most exposing about this global pandemic states in my small community and in Los Angeles was how much parents working parents rely on school for childcare, but also meals and. I would love to talk about US policy and childcare options like what is the current US policy? Is there anything in place other than school to help working parents? NOPE so. Spit out my coffee. Now. We have well intentioned programs for after school, but that's when school is in session. so that's only what you know or if I don't mean in session, because there are some programs, but meaning that we are shelter at home, we continue to be shelter at home right now and schools are closed, so there are no. Programs where anyone's gathering Fantastic organizations like the YMCA and the like to. Limited programming to some children to support them. but we're talking about you know. I think individual families having to make choices of child care looking like grandma or the neighbor or a share with a friend or a paid nanny or babysitter. If you can do that, but then having to in this day and age about will. What does that mean about bringing people into our home for the sake of? And the respective the to- bed, but as far as US policy. No, there is nothing. Why does the United States lack of family program? I feel like that's such. Respectfully. It's like such a loaded question. It makes me so it just I sai- like that, because why? Why are we fighting racism right now? It kind of is the same idea and concept that our country has been built to kind of kick. The can down the road, but no one has actually put into place. Systems that support really support all Americans and we'll. We'll keep it to America. Only because as as you mentioned, other countries have incredible social programs in place to support their citizens and America doesn't. We are the only country that does not have. A paid maternity leaves. That is required. Right country, how is that possible? I asked. The culture around having a baby is kind of fucked up. Forgive my language, but like that. It's viewed as a vacation and all. Whereas you, know you really sit back and think about it, and it's like can cheat can vary based on boat. Continuing the human race is like what we're trying to do and they're like. Why are you taking so long? You just like if you keep going back back back back back. What, what do you? What do you want to do? Just either be suppressed at home or what babies to happen anymore because there's a huge population program going up population problem in my hand, because women are afraid that the have to give up their jobs right have a bank so right. And a lot of women that I've spoken with that. Are I want I'm going to generalize here. Because truly with the ages of the women that I've spoken to but conversations that I've had with women between the ages of twenty, nine and thirty, four are terrified. Women Women that age who have not had children yet want to have children are also. Exact already executives or on their way to being executive or want to be executives. They're terrified to to have to ask the question will. I'd like to have a family, but I don't know if I can. Yeah, I mean listen. If you had talked to me. When I was thirty, I would have said the same thing. I had the also be tricked into having a child I. This is what life is now. My life is over. I wasn't I found. It wasn't long. Yes, so. Let's. Let's talk about some good news and that is your organization. What led you to start the armed Nicole? Thank you for asking that. It all truly stems from the pain point of being a working parents single working parents with a child. Truly everything is from that personal pinpoint and not wanting. Any other parent to not feel like they have some real support to be able to work and raise a family. So this is like my internal belief. System is just churning all the time of like I want this for myself and I'm going to some I'm going to. Put into action. How others to can be supported in that way because if I'm suffering in this way, we're all suffering in this way by think. At least with the mothers and parents, that I've spoken with, and so in two thousand seventeen I created in co-founded with June Diane Raphael the Jane Club and that was the first step towards creating a beautiful space in community where women can both. Honor their work in their children. It was a space. It is space for both of those things, so while I was there. and working there the desire to create a larger corporate sort of business to business play where it's fantastic that it's working in Los Angeles and in the communities that we pop elsewhere. And I just felt so strongly in my heart. I know that this can be something I can apply to corporate America. And so last, August, last summer, I started really having those pangs of. The envisioning what that looks like and what a model can what model can work? How a model will work, so I started having the pangs of that last summer. And then in and I was thinking about, and I was sort of as an entrepreneur I was running through logistics and detail in particular. Laying out what I saw what I wanted and what what what can work? What can't go very interesting? Which Pang is this addressing? What's paying? It or it is trust Japan things. Go depends. HASHTAG pangs. And then in November I winch to. With with an organization called the Soccer Berg. Institute and We studied for two weeks with the. Dalai Lama specifically. How why Japanese gaming? So the concept of it was about twelve of us to end the concept of the visit was. Our own individual purpose in this world in how that then can be applied to the global. Purpose. And we learned Buddhist philosophy in every day we were in class at the Dalai Lama's palace I five six hours a day. And worked individually with His Holiness and he's in Dharamsala, India, which is in the Himalayan mountains over the hill from Tabet and for the refugees fleeing Tibet They make it over the hill. Should they make it alive? They essentially many of them. resettle and settle in this Dharamsala Mountain town. And it's there that all of their services for the refugees are free, so they had Tibetan Children's village that I was so taken with. Because it was completely free to the parents for however old the kid. Is it not in school and they need care. You can drop a child off. And have covered care in a mountain town in Tibet. Use me in India and so. I looked a little bit more it. It's microfinance. It's bottom-up economics. It's it doesn't have its place. In capitalism is community founded and funded and I was just so moved by this and I thought if they're doing this here in this remote mountain, village. I can figure it out in Los, Angeles. And so that really impacted in educated sort of the next step of Omni Co, which is it? Is Employer sponsored so I'm Nicola I'll just back for a second and let you know what it is, so we are a family care solution for corporate, America is essentially my tagline. What that means is I work with companies one on one to build out infant care facilities within. Within. The office space an adjacent wellness space, so that parents can come back to work with their baby and have let's say a converted conference room or a converted office that now has become you know a small safe staffed nursery and adjacent myspace, so that a woman can take a nap if she needs to or breastfeed in private or a dad can come back and. Just take the time. He needs to have really gentle return to work with his child so. As I was forming this. My Age was zero to sixteen months. Because essentially it's sixteen months. We have daycare and other options. It's changing right now. Because of Covid I'M GONNA I'M GONNA. It really is going to be custom to whatever company would need, but I thought okay. Here we go. This can be an employer sponsored wellness benefit. The employer's losing that fifty seven billion dollars a year I'll be more specific about they lose. Ninety thousand dollars per employee who leaves on Maternity and family leaves, and if it's an executive woman, the number is two hundred and fourteen percent. Percent More, so the company is losing a shit ton of money when a woman leaves and wants to retain her, so we'll pay the cost to do so and eventually the mother might not think that works for her. Father might not think that that works for him and leave so this is an option for the company to retain the cost, because the cost of a contract with me is hundreds of thousands less than it is to cover. The maternity, leave or the the cost associated with a maternity leave. Allow the woman to bring their baby back in have that year and a half of covered imagine if you didn't have to pay for your for Sir Childcare that your employer was paying for that and you were with your child, and can do a mommy and me class on a Tuesday at the office and duck back to work and maintain a normal work and family balance. I just think that this is. This is an innovation that needs to be. In play immediately. The name on Nico Comes from on. His is Arabic slang for mom in some Arabic cultures. My son is part Arabic so it's a nod to him and Omni, the word Omni an I. Is Universal for all so to me. This is a Ma a mother for all. And or a mother solution for all on Nico and so. I came back from India. And then. Went to Italy blessed by the Pope at the Vatican. Pre Cova Jazz. Best Line. I literally got blessed by the Dalai. Lama November blessed by the Pope in in December are. Are you religious person or you're like fuck? I mean I'm Dr spiritual a s so that was all very cool I'm global. Global Spiritual. So! My sister at the time was living in Italy in Rome. In fact, she kind of lives. There are sort of right now, but fled Rome in. February when it closed down in went back to be with my parents in New York, but. I went to Italy, and when I was in Italy, I really had that sense of of family of culture of. Just spawned in me. The concept of Omni just was everything. I was breathing and seeing at that time. And so. The dish nonprofit. Let match. is a bed in a room from mother to take it. Yes I love it. Back from Italy I was just completely motivated. Completely focused completely on point to launch the company. Very quickly brought an incredible team together honestly I. Don't want to sound like forty five right now, but I got the best in the Biz I had like edible people that I brought to the table to build out. Build out and operate a model and we were on our way to. Open doors on business when done done. The pandemic hit all right, forgot about DEMOC. We had a global pandemic. If you remember if you recall in the. Year of Twenty Twenty On that shot every single thing and person down. And so. At first in those first couple of weeks like I said I was making watermelon slushy with my son. My own damn business. and. My sister said to me. Well? What are you GonNa do to help? Wow and at first I was like kid I gotTA. Take care of my son over here like I'm not doing anything and it took me. Ten minutes to essentially download and see this concept of Oh crap. These medical workers who need to support these heroes that are out there you know, essentially dare I say it. I'm not saying it lightly. To. Save other people. And going into work, the have families and they're working these TWANI. Hours twenty four hours covered in all of that protection, knowing at all what this thing is, but just lay again heroes just showing up and doing their work in service of others and I thought well I want to be in service them in this way that of having my, you know my individual slash global purpose of like supporting working parents. I know how to pop up I. Know How to hop childcare so. So thankfully at the at the Jane Club. We had several opportunities to build out pop ups if you will so the Jane Club South by southwest and Austin to support the south by southwest festival happened for a few days Jane Club new. Orleans supported the essence festival for a few days reserved. I WANNA say eighty five to one hundred families at the Jane. Club Beauty Kahn which was a thirty thousand person. Beauty Convention at the L. A. Convention Center so I had done it. Time and time again. This is so that it wasn't just people who could afford. Childcare were able to enjoy things that everyone else could enjoy exactly, and and my thought was I'm GonNa pop the childcare. Going back to India. It's going to be community funded and free for the parents, so they don't have to be concerned with the financial burden of having their children at home. We're going to give them the three option of just dropping them off, so they don't have the emotional burden of figuring out where their child's going to be while they're working twenty four hour shift and from there. It just I it just happened. It materialized I went to work and I produced the Emergency Childcare Relief Center. For Essential Hospital workers in Los Angeles. Amazing I I would say you mentioned the burden I would say that in addition to the financial cost the burden of having to call people to help take care of your child. Yeah, I would. I would say up much more time and energy than one would necessarily expect. To be able to have a phone number to call is always available to you. Yes, is a huge emotional relief in addition to the financial relief yet just knowing that okay, here's this space that if I'm running late, an just need to have my kid, go somewhere or if yeah, the sitter didn't call her. The sitter or the sitter is not comfortable. Coming over or the grandparents are older in immune compromise like whatever the case may be. This was an option that I felt could support. Cova nineteen like the response of covid nineteen in the action. around just supporting. Depend you know the pandemic crisis? Can you talk about your experience with working with the State of California on the Child Care Center I can? So, what was so interesting was I needed to get a childcare license in order to operate above board and It's hard enough to do when you are. Trying to just get it done on any regular given day, but when you're trying to do it when the world is going through a global pandemic and everything is closed. No one is working, and everyone is scared and no one knows if they're going to get sick or not. obviously those roadblocks were put in front of me. Right. You can't just like lift up your son. It'd be like he's good. My licensed. I heard a pillow and a toy year. So I worked with. It's all basically just like reaching out and connecting connection, so it's like connecting with people you know who can take you to the next level like a video game, so I was from a friend. I was connected to another friend who owns a daycare center. The woman who owned a daycare center connected meter to her analyst at the Department of Social Services so and all of that within the midst of a global pandemic that takes a while making the phone call asking for the thing, and so so if you could imagine it was just a constant. Trying to achieve my goal of getting the license, so so I have now an analyst with the Department of Social Services and we started going down the. Path of me being. Provided a license, but then it turns out that I'm not in the neighborhood that she was an analyst for had to start all over again with someone that was within I district where I was, it was in Burbank. The place that I had least for the time. Talking about bureaucracy Shitty, what do you mean? So Governor Gavin newsom of California was granting emergency temporary childcare licenses. And I fell in that category. And, so a lot of the daycares were closed. People weren't letting kids gather still, but I said it's a send. It's for the essential medical workers, so we became an essential service. We essentially positioned ourselves as in essential services somebody then usually they come out for a site visit, but we did it on zoom, and I walked through the space, and a little I can talk a little bit about what we did with space. Because we just we yuesday closed marketing studio that happened to be in Burbank near Saint, Joseph's hospital so. We walked through the space. They had to take a look at the outlets. Cover I thought you were going to say like Chili John's or something and I was like Oh boy. There! Now, that sounds much nicer. Really interesting is when I first started I was looking at hotels because I was working with my sister. Who Works charity, so she was like well. Let me connect you to a bunch of hotels that are closed and it was like fantastic but That actually ended up, not working out, we ended up working with in event. Marketplace called Pure Space Online, which essentially is like an AIRBNB for event spaces. appear space was so cool and they were like. How can we help and they were able to? Connect me directly rather than go through the online portal. The CEO of pure space was able to. Connect directly with some of the of their hosts. That would be interested in opening up their space to us so yeah. It was incredible. The way people showed up and. and made those connections so. I worked with in a in event company in Los Angeles there so awesome called Mesh Kids Co and the woman who owns it Unis is just a delight, and they work with the card, dashing and other fancy people, but they build out these incredible place maces for kids, so I worked I called her up and I was like. Hey, listen I'm GonNa put this day kid drop off childcare together. Can you help me build it out because I'm working with a concrete floor and cinder block walls, and they came in and matted the floor, beautifully with foam matting and used colorful plastic fencing to build out three pens that were age appropriate for infants, toddlers and big kids, and then in there were. Is An age appropriate sensory just toys to play with and engage. Any any yeezy they thrown in. There says they were going to ask you what? I got my knees while I was. I wish I. mean she really I. So if anybody's looking for like an incredible event company I just WanNa for any of the MOMS out there mesh kids, Co as. Are. There just an incredible husband and wife team that has beautiful taste, incredible products and I just. I'm so happy that I was able to work with Eunice on this and She came in and her husband actually came with Truckin, and we built out the space amazing. So the Department of Social Services After. Really going at it every day all day. Making sure that we rode out the policy in the procedure on, we were following all the safety guidelines of Covid nineteen in putting that together in paperwork that would be both signed off by parents, and then also posted in the space, and we had to go through the procedure of what a check in is, and I can talk you a little bit through that, but it was a lot of work, but we finally got there, and I was granted a licence. Wow, yeah, that's That's incredible. That's like it took a village to yeah. Happen where people already waiting to use your service when you open your doors proudly, we were the only free resource in Burbank. And that's how we connected with the staff, and then it was through that and through friends, and through social that we were able to engage with a staff that needed it. That's great, so you were able to. And how'd you can service in your one facility, so we We were only under the license in under the social distancing the COVID. We were able to take in ten children a day. And that didn't mean ten families that was just ten children, and ultimately be served twenty four families. That's amazing. And they came from just shut out the hospitals that were like incredible to work with. We worked with Glendale. Memorial Hospital which is dignity health. We worked with the Kaiser Permanente system and we worked with Providence Saint. Joseph's in Burbank and also providence seen John's in Santa Monica. Wow, that's a long way to go Will they leave number they live. Which I was focusing on Burbank because we were close to the hospital. Then it was like. Oh! No F- that there's like people live in this area late. Be So and then it turned into all service. Any hospital worker who needs it, yeah. Do. You have any stories that you want that. You have to share from any of the parents that you worked with. I think just parents. Really One parent in particular. who had three children was just so thankful that she could use us as a resource because they think that she was really. She was a nurse, really struggling with the finances of his children being at home. And she fell that we were safe place and that was the point of the whole operation. Incredible single mom. She was not a single mom, but I'm not sure she had support. Yeah, yeah, I guess a again returning to the burden of motherhood. Exactly What are the the rules to save childcare because I think there's a lot of conversations in mother communities about you know. If childcare facilities are allowed open again. Like what does that look like now? Yes, there are very specific steps to take and I think that that will probably extend itself into the school year, and probably become part of a new normal I think but they're all fairly easy, but they do require time and cooperation from everyone, so it starts with we at the beginning of the pandemic again. Would it know what it was so children? We weren't able to give any food out. We couldn't have snacks and parents had to bring their own. Lunch lunch boxes. Bottles formula. All of that had to be brought in, and so when the parent comes to the door. They have a mask on. We required that the children over four years old were masks, but we did. I have to say we did not push out. but the parents comes in. It's well children well parents. Only they hand over their food or their lunchbox their bottle. We sanitize data and put it in the front fridge. Then we take the temperature of the parent and the children and record that then the parents take off their children's shoes and wash and sanitize their children's hands. And then the parent leaves, and then when the parent come when the children is brought to the back. Or caretakers are wearing masks, sometimes clubs. They didn't really have gloves on, but we have them available if they needed them, and then you have to wash in sanitize hands every hour for all of the workers and children. That's great. I. Have to maybe seemingly silly questions. Infants have different set of rules. Do they have to wash their hands? Or are they? Okay? Sure so That's a really interesting question. We had the we had an infant. The mother. Kind of Wash the the baby's hair in the sink. We don't put sanitizer on a baby. They don't have they, don't they? Definitely don't have masks. I think throughout the day. There was like maybe. A few times where their hands were run underwater with some hope, but we weren't. We weren't enforcing every hour on the hour. For the infant word, no hand sanitizer right Chris Toddlers are disgusting babies are. Ext.. We'll sing a song and be happy about the germs going down the drain. Me these are the sauces little cloud perfection. And then you know, what do you do obviously like my child's five? She understood she knows how to wear a mask all the time and she also knows how to wash your hands like she gets it yet, but for I would say anywhere between like the one and a half to four. Your old like they sneeze. They cough. Like is that you have to report to the parent or the second that they show a symptom that would be questionable. It is reported to the parents. Parent is called. That being said. The sneezing if they're sneezing often if they have allergies were told because they fill out. Pretty ample intake paperwork about on the needs of children. So. They don't have allergies in their sneezing in. It's constant appearance called if they're sneezing once they're sneezing in their hands are washed the kirk from so good. They're so on top of it so. Understanding of what this is, and how could be scary in how it's not the easiest thing in the world, but honestly like it's beautiful to see like older children, caring for younger children or singing songs about germs off. We're just being interested in teaching a younger child how to be or do. Sell. I really feel like anything can be taught the song. Yes mother retain it. That's how they get it. That's what that's. What makes it fun? I've a fiber all too, and like we're you know we're constantly making up a song about the thing we have to. Do. You know I covered the song? Mike Dubber get to pay your credit card. I don't forget. Remember that. Do, you have. Any tips for parents that are faced with managing working from Home Oh. Gosh I wish I did I should. I should but I I. Myself Am challenged by it to I. Do my best to take zoom calls take. Work Time. Sort of in the space where my child is playing, but then I try again I have a five year old, and I have to say you gotta stay right here for the next hour and a half and non move and generally includes television. So I don't have the answer to that, but I, do know and I can share with parents that I am working on a solution that will allow us to have our children at the office so that we can work and have someone else. Take care of them on the employers dime. The shame around being a parent sometimes in order to be successful. It would just be nice to if you're like well if the kids are here and it's not like they're cute. They're gonNA. Sing songs. It'd be cute. They're not going to be interrupting work if they're part of our existence than. We can all succeed together. Yes we can we trust meet systems of support and to be able to collectively support each other for whatever our needs to be net. It's awesome. Thank you so much for chatting with me, thank you for. All. Mom and how can people find you? And how can people help excellent? Thank you so I am Act Omni dot co that spelled h. m., n., I dot Co, and I am keeping the go fund me page open, which you can find an Omni dot co so that if should parents want to donate? That will go to the. Hospitals that we've worked with directly to their childcare pools. Their funds that are supporting the workers will continue to do that work, and then if you are an HR, employee or employer, owned business and are interested in this having this conversation in providing this for your employees, please reach out to Omni dot co Look forward to connecting with you. Awesome. The pandemic has highlighted a host of issues. The United States has ignored for far too long. If we're going to get through this time and build a better world, we need creative solutions. Thank you just for creating on Nico. That's our show. I want to thank my guest. Jessica and the company started I'm Nico. It does sound like a mother solution for all. Please reach out to me through our website. Mother of all shows dot com. You have any questions. Lahser tasks would like the year. We are all over social media at MIS spun. His podcast is produced by Gen. Perelini music by Jerome Kirk and edited by Tracy, leading I'm a proud part of the ears network. We subscribe and rate the mother of all shows. Apple spotify e Castro wherever you listen, it would really help us out stay. Strong parents were doing the best. You can be kind and thank a teacher. We will have links to the topics. What's up. Yeah I. Love you, too. What do you need? I don't need anything I. Just wanted to say a view all new. Know what you can interrupt me anytime. Area
Kristine Lilly & Dr. Lynette Gillis: Olympic Gold Medalist Soccer Player Shares Key to Teamwork
"Welcome to the female insight zone podcast dedicated to sharing insights from women who have made an indelible mark in business and the pathway to disease welcome to the female insight zone this is mary beth kuzminsky today i'm interviewing some really amazing people i'm interviewing christine literally who is an expert on affective teamwork an you might know her as v midfielder for united states women's soccer team team she played for over twenty three years including five feet the women's world cup since three olympic games as she was inducted in the uss olympic hall of fame in two thousand and twelve in u s soccer hall of fame in two thousand fourteen before that she went for national championships at university of north carolina she is absolutely amazing today she does consulting with organizations she is also joined when that gillis who earned a phd in corporate strategy strategy an organizational behavior they have team together to put on this amazing powerhouse of knowledge for us and including doctor and john gillis junior to write the book called powerhouse our house in its powerhouse thirteen teamwork tactics that build excellence an unrivalled success so thank you to the two of you for being on this podcast today i really appreciate your time and i wanna find out right off the out of the gate why did you decide to write this book together in take the knowledge that you all have and put it in this form right well thank you for having us i think you know i my family moved to austin texas about a five years ago and that's where i met john and lynnette and 'em when that because of our kids and then end up john and i were coaching are are kidding soccer so obviously soccer is always been a connector me in every aspect of my life and the thing that is than most is introduced me to sing amazing people i met these to end you know we talk about you know the success of usa team we talk about you know how great teammates we worried all that in in john would be like you know this is what we miss in the business world you know we talk about people trying to get up the ladder individually and then you ask how the teamwork conferences and he's always like it's always if you are negative story like this'll be a great tool in the book and i need a little nudge sometimes do things and then when that provide the research and elvis great information for us at what we believe is a great book about teamwork so this all started not too long ago i would say a year and a half and they cannot make seven then we were really happy with it that is awesome england you bring so much to the table in terms of you're academic background and all the things that you're doing on strategy in leadership and management an ethics and so together with what you've seen out in the world why did you think that a book on teamwork was so valuable right now i mean i think that it is but i wanna know from you guys so you know over my career i have both research teams in the way people interact with both are co workers and their leaders and then am witnessed it button that organizational and the for profit sector as well is in higher education and consistently people will say we need to train are students we need to train our workforce and had a working teams how we get work done the reality he is is this seems wrong and dysfunctional create conflict and really don't operate the way that they're intended to operate at people typically complain about their music about their team members they want to be evaluated individually they don't wanna have to rely on somebody else even though conceptually they know what the right thing to do and so when you mentioned when we were first working on and talking about this book you know as i got no christine and hurt her story an witness and saw me friendship the trust level they have reliance resilience of the team i had told her gosh this is such a great story that needs to be told because the world doesn't realize what great teamwork as we don't have a good model and this year is that u s one national team as a model or excellent team more that organization or an individual and draw from in i noted christine you learned a lot from you're coach at the university of north carolina what's something you could share with our audience about what that coach brings to the leadership in how that impacts be entire team working in the impact that the team ended up have right you know on anson was my first coach and they left him first and then i went to play from at the university of north carolina in a he's whenever twentyone national championships there which is amazing but what i just think off right hand what anson and has done is basically when i'm coaching the stuff he has taught us i'm teaching and it wasn't just about the game there's a story in the book we talk about when i was younger player in the national team i would say maybe my twenties yet enhanced asked him only see the bigger picture and he's all right ladies you know we gotta sell the game of soccer and i'm like what is she talking about like i just wanna play we just don't play soccer and this is the late eighties early nineties so obviously soccer wasn't as popular is now and he he would constantly say that we gotta sell the ladies and we're we gotta sell the game you guys got self soccer and we always had are shocked pulled up shirt tucked in always professional we signed autographs and as time went on i was like oh my gosh we were selling the game by being a spy i'm being competitive and he set the foundation of play for each other be competitive we always competed and all that stuff adds to us you know showing how great the game is and to this day i i you know i think of all those little tidbits and how he coached a different drills and i share those with young kids today so i think his impact was spelled overall and i think kid vision of soccer was just not to win it was just see how we can sell the game of soccer yeah so you're first teamwork tactic is to select exceptional team members but inherently isn't that also an issue when you look at some of these mbh basketball teams now and i think what happens in teamwork in sports correlate obviously directly to what is happening in business but you know you've got teams at superstars and occasionally superstars don't get along but they still have to work together talk a little bit about that when you've got and i know the the soccer teams have had these amazing stars who often or sometimes don't all we see i i how do you deal with that right i think you know when you're selecting a team and obviously the national team you're you're dealing with the best of the best and you do have to find the correct players and the the chemistry come players will come together and put aside themselves for the betterment of the team and i think really or we just talked about aunts and what he did from the very beginning when he set the foundation you said that early and he said it early knowing that you know it's not just about you it's about the team but when you came into this environment you were trying to be the best you could being make the team in division but then you also had put aside gearhead you're ego and know that you know some things that you think maybe should have to be put aside the success that gene andy other thing about it you if you look at that ninety nine gene we're individuals we had so many different personalities wasn't just same person you know as left back in centerman centerfold we're all we had her own personalities and we let oceanside so we have people differences and let them shine but in the same thing they knew how to come together within the goal and the team direction you know you couldn't just their individual and be off on on you needed to buy into it and there's some that may be dead in an i think are are leadership handled it well in a restroom the things we need from you but i think the biggest part about the whole thing is be are cells and then i'll let you know that in some in some instances you have put yourself inside the betterment of gene right in that leads directly into you have another other tips that's create team chemistry which it's got to be one of the most difficult things is to create that team chemistry and they keep that team chemistry what is your advice for businesses in terms of getting in keeping that release super valuable team chemistry you know i think one of the most important things is establishing trust between the leadership of the organization in the people who are working there at one concept in the book that we talk about called being a center set teamer i center set organization versus abounded that and not that the concept and that is find that which draws people to the center find that which you nine so you know oftentimes in organization station that's why mission and vision and values and were selecting team members were looking at you know how did they win that how did they buy into that how does that venture that core of who we are unite people so even if they're diverse even if they have different perspective and personalities creating that chemistry often happens by having a common draw that that common thing that binds us together that were all really passionate about an for the women on the uss national team that particular ninety nine team as you heard christine say it was to win but it went off to advance the game of soccer and particularly that or women and girls and they made a difference in this country in really in this world what they did that their passion was really changing game of soccer for the future generations and that is something that people can grab onto and when you find that you find that center i i have a niece that played college soccer division one the end she did it because of that team because if you're a team who is all about what she i mean she had posters if you guys all over her room and it was just yeah if you're right you're right when that did it change it change the world is it changed women's soccer it's just absolutely amazing and that that leads me to my next question which is you know you guys were winners in winning is aj mentality you can't just go out and think oh we're gonna win you you gotta do a lot of things what what timid by sports teams about how they could develop this winning mentality which seems awfully elusive yeah no it i mean it it is special and i think a lot of people oh he's asked i get at a certain time like i guess still a lot of athletes i've been really successful they're like why do you still play many one issue one that i'm like uber winning is fun like in that feeling of being the best that something is is incredible feeling and i think for us the winning mentality i mean we had it from the start like i said anson center foundation early on a to compete and it wasn't the winning mentality where we are just winning when we play games against other countries every every single day in practice it when the competition in there were days that you lost and then they were days that you want so we we all wish her on either side of it in obviously we all his everyone realize we enjoyed the winning side more so that motivated and itself the try to be the best but we also in ninety six and twenty in chico took over in about ninety four the national team in a he was great because he had so many great features himself but he also knew something in his weaknesses and one of them was the mental side or more the motivation factor and he brought on are mental skills coach cooling hacker ends i think in this time and mid nineties you know the whole a mental side of the game was it really looked upon like oh yeah yeah whatever end or my my mindset was like you're gonna tell me and she came in and she didn't pressure anything on us we did she said i am i'm doing it imagery sessions you know at this time guys wanna come and we all like are we gotta get the chance for that session on we're an komi in that year and i ninety six the olympic year that year i was probably the most confident i've ever been in my entire career end we end up winning gold any olympics and not only did she just had these different features and we did seem building stuff we also created these tapes back then it was a tape yes and it was put to music and you get to choose word that you want it to remind yourself when you're on the soccer field and i listened to it before heading to the game or maybe four practices and a couple of mine where you know my job as a left midfielder was to get the ball down lining in line and get bunch crosses in and i was like you know take on and then it was like i want the ball and it was you know get back early things that i wanna do in the field and those who focuses gave me the confidence handle anything on the field and so really the mentality we built it wasn't just immediately there were built through competition in practices it was built with the feeling of what it's like to win and then i think they edition of course doctor calling hacker into are team really added that element of confidence and the fact that we all believe in each other and we knew we could do this and i think focus is something that we don't have a great deal of these days because there's so many things that we can be focused but when you're laser focused on the few things you need to do to be successful i can see how that would change everything we've got a lot of things that you're supposed to be doing but if you're just focused on those things and making sure that those things are happening rights i could see how that would be really really successful so if you talk about you know all these different teamwork tactics an you're out there sharing these things tell me who should be reading this book should be people that are putting on you know is it coaches and people that are looking have winning teams is it businesses is it women gimme some idea of who should be reading this book well i i mean in the mall i don't think it's narrowed at one specific person i think a lot of these tactics and attributes and this book and really just everybody to relate to and i think that's why i was excited about partnering up with limit and john with the business side and sharing her story through that because i think it can reach everyone in it's not just about a sports team it's not just about a business gene not just on educational team i mean if you look at your family dynamic you gotta bring a group of people that they're all the same blooded here there are so different so how could we jell together you know to get the most out of each other so i really think it transcends different groups and and really be effective where everybody take a little bit something from it as anything now arto absolutely i read the book and i absolutely believe that's truly but i didn't think about the family size have where family vacation this summer and i'm gonna have my family reid this book we powerful in winning on are family vacation tell me how people can find out more about this book obviously you could buy it on amazon but tell us a little bit more where they could find out more about you and that and more about you christine in just be able to follow you guys on social media and all of that yeah so you can always say amazon you can go to a crispy emily thirteen dot com to find information about me everything by the book their doctor giant jealous junior i mean were all on twitter christian really twitter doctors on gillis twitter a law that gillis and then leadership accident john business that you can get information in off the porch the book on there as well where pretty much accessible many different ways in linked in and all that so we we've enjoyed people reaching out to us and that obviously sharing their feedback and sharing some stuff
Why London may be past the peak of Covid; and what will Bidens first 100 days look like?
"From the evening standard in london. I'm david marshland. And this is the leader as the first patients arrived at a new vaccination center in wembley econ came to take a look wedding. His face masks because he passed photographers. The centers one of ten opening in england as part of the government's efforts to roll out the cova job and it comes as london itself may be showing some progress in the battle against the virus case. Numbers are falling in every borrower for the first time in months up to thirty percent in some areas political editor. Joe murphy wrote the story for the evening standard. And he's with me now joe. Can we dare to hope that the peak is past was always cautious before a call and the have been falls in the overall london figure for a few days. Now but today i think we've reached a landmark because for the first time every london borough her senior fall some of these cases the foley's five ten percent but they go up to thirty or even one case forty percent overall london's about a third down in case numbers since january. The first so. I think we can say that. In terms of the caseload new infections the peak is passing but of course it still high doesn't mean the crisis is over in fact in many ways it's getting worse for the nhs yeah for all. These figures are encouraging. You've written the evening standard today. That the number of londoners filling up it continues to break records. Yes and of course. People are not dying thank goodness as much as they did in the first wave but a consequence of saving people's lives is it takes a long time to nursing back to health have is a record number of people being admitted to hospital while fewer people are getting out of hospital as quickly and so you get the numbers building up and up and up. So you're seeing the number of patient surging and you're still seeing deaths rising and that's why the hell sakhuri's urging londoners to stick to the rules. Isn't it yeah we've had some very hot fell words from both matt hancock. The health secretary and cdc calm the mayor of london saying look london as we employ. You don't take your foot off the gas. don't relax. don't give the virus any chances because people are still in desperate conditions and as all this has happened and we also have the opening of these twenty four seven corona virus vaccine centers. Don't we exciting news. Probably at london. Hospitals said nadeem zahawi. Who's vaccinations rollout minister. So you can probably deduce from that. These aren't really aimed at the members of the public. Certainly not at the moment The elderly people. Who are the priorities for. Vaccinations are going to be offered appointments in daylight hours at centers local to them. But if you're a shift worker who's in the categories to entitled or if you're an nhs staff member at the hospital then a twenty four hour seven center could be just the job for you and they're gonna come to london. I fit even with that even with these figures falling in london. The message is still clearly. We're not out of the woods yet. Sorry david bethel is just the truth. The last time we were in this position was in november around half term and it looked as though that tia to lockdown level was bearing fruit because numbers were being squeezed in london. They were definitely leveling off and then the new variant can from kent and swept through london on it still sweeping through other parts of the country. Things could go wrong again. There's more from joe in our comprehensive canola virus coverage available in the newspaper online that standard dot co dot uk and our youtube channel two. Now let's take a look at the. Us where final preparations are ongoing ahead of. Joe biden's inauguration on wednesday after the riot capitol hill security has been given an overhaul. it's now emerged. Even the national guard will undergo stricter vetting procedures amid fbi concerns of an insider threat. The evening standard. Jack kesslers with me jack. Apparently the remote military personnel in washington now than afghanistan so new chances are being taken then both extraordinary but also kind of thirteen reasonable. I mean it's extraordinary. Because the city and its residents who have quite used to high levels of security the essentially been shut down in mentions of green said. It makes it sound more like baghdad following the invasion route the us capital but it's also turkey reasonable because the outgoing president is chevy quite capable of storing up a violence editions mob. Nfl the actions. You take when when you know what you're dealing with. I mean i've seen so the google maps looks like dc is really good Traffic neighborhoods but actually when you realize it's for multiple samba purpose wants all this is over. Joe biden's going to have to go into that oval office get as pan out and start signing things. What's the first day could ally so they've already announced that they're going to enact immediately. Some executive orders all attending the The muslim ban and returning the site to the paris agreement but it is a heaving in books. I want to if. I may go back to april. Two thousand three and just remind people what became known as rumsfeld memo so deliver fell. Was the us defense secretary at a time sent memo to a colleague where he said and i quote we need more coercive diplomacy with respect to syria libya and we need it fast. They must rock. It will today bringing our troops home. We also need to solve the pakistan problem and korea doesn't seem to be going well. Are you coming up with proposals to meet to send around. Which always made me laugh. You know the these problems that we're all going to be solved with and i think biden faces a similar issue in that he's got a health crisis. He's got an economic crisis. He's got a political crisis to resolve and his time to do with him. Is he going to be concentrating on those domestic issues because america right now is undeniably deeply divided up. It is divided and a. I'm sure there will be calls for unity. Although i'm not sure how much one wants to unite with seditionists But what i've been impressed by is the ambition of the economic stimulus packages. So if you think that. The obama era stimulus package after the global financial crisis lows seven hundred eighty seven billion dollars full. Joe biden wants to stimulus package. The first one alone is one point nine trillion dollars and this is good news for the wealthy really. Because there's not gonna be global economic recovery without the united states women and even they bury our senate majority. Looks like maybe up to get something through. Joe biden's relationship with boris johnson is. Let's call it a political relationship. That doesn't seem to be a lot of love between the two of them. Let's look in one hundred days because we always measured things in the first one hundred days of a presidency. Where will the relationship between the uk and barry could be. I mean the relationship between the uk in america and the relationship between the prime minister in this case johnson in the president joe biden on exactly the same thing i mean. Donald trump cools. Boris from britain trump. And forgive the issues around grandma. He is seen as whether or not given support for breaks Trump in these of nativist right-wing moles and so biden and his team will definitely be wary of johnson himself. No matter how much johnson will try to himself in the flag of the climate change conference o. J. seven happening later this year but it sounds the relationship between the uk and us doesn't change. We are still one of america's closest allies. What about donald trump himself. What's next for him. He's apparently writing up around about hundred pardons to be released in the next day or two not allegedly including one for himself. So where does he go once he leaves. The white house starts an exactly what he'll he'll do but there's one constant donald trump's life which is publicity at money that hasn't anciently fully is in which is occupied the white house whether it's running a rival news networked to outflank fox news on its rights of trying to build golf courses or whatever he will do. We'll get him in. The newspapers at Fills his office. I kind of think that. I've read about this in the in the paper last week. The biggest issue is less trump. When it's less violent mobs in its will the political structures of the us itself from the fact that the small state bias of the senate and the electoral college in pakistan john monitoring in the house means that the republican policy whether it's led by donald trump will someone superficially Can get about forty eight percents of votes and still win everything in the american political system which within a two party system is is some doing. We'll more on the inauguration and the leader ahead of the event itself this week subscribed to make sure you don't miss out we every day at four pm.
Rapinoe Rips Two
"The analysis USA to Spain one and everything from this very strange Cup or how I learned to stop worrying and avoid the VAR also the meth apologizing. For their manager cursing at a member of the media, you people. Let's go. That actually guys. Sometimes we don't you who Spain want. Hence anxious game here. Quarter-final to US goals onto Meghan, repeat o-. Penalty fix the first from the penalty here Tobin heath drawing and the second here with some question Roosevelt draw. Here's our panel. And we're also going to bring in Frank. I Sola today are resident soccer reporter standing by for a few minutes. We thank you. Let's start with that penalty kick right there, Frank and the penalty draw was at a penalty. You know, as they like to say it was a little harsh under the circumstances at one, one you'd like to see the team really earn it. Plus the touch that Roosevelt took was away from the goal. But I think by the letter of the law, unfortunately, that's a penalty against Spain good for the US. They were the better team you would just like to see them score a goal in the run-up play as opposed to eight. Is that a penalty right there? It's not a penalty for me. It's still a discretionary call on some level. And like Frank said, if you're moving away from net, it's hard for me to believe that, that's something that you're actually going to consider taking away a goal chance in my personal opinion. However, the VA are made it tougher as well. You go to the review you go back to that. And then you decide on letter of the law, I don't know. I to me that really killed the momentum of the game. And it made Spain put them in a position where they are made it tougher that is the headline of this entire tournament. Speaking of making it tougher Woody page make it tougher for me right here in a penalty. Yeah. Well, no, not at all to be. It was vacuous. And then there was an embarrassment. So if you had those two together, I'd. Don't think at that point into maj. That's you really wanted to make that call other referees, I think, in the tournament would have let it slide. You had a situation where Spain was going to be physical the entire game eighteen thousand call four is United States, and that was their intention, but I think in that case looking at it over and over, get his people will do that just wasn't enough to actually affect anything about that played going on, and Spain will always reverted this as lavar, I understand where you're going there. Thank you very much glossiest. I should say Kevin Blackstone knowing Spain strategy to get very physical studs up in that position. Is that automatic call for you? I didn't think so. I thought I didn't think it was that agreed. And I think that, you know, the women's game right now has a difficulty when it comes to handling physicality, there are some nations that have suffered because of that. And I think in this particular case Spain did. And, you know, in America, people are always critical of, of referees in late situations about swallowing their whistles and letting play go on. And yet, we're going to accept this particular judgment, because it went in the US as favor, I think that soccer really has to look at that, and, you know, and when you have a seventy five percent, chance of scoring from a penalty kick, and then they Levin percent chance of scoring in regular play. Sometimes it's just not proportion. Jackie. Let's approach it from that way back quarter of this game that being awarded a penalty, kick does that change it for you. I don't know. I don't know where I stand on this. Go ahead. Well, I mean so I'm no soccer. Expert. So all I can do is watch and tell me what my eyes say my eyes, tell me that in that instance, I don't even think it affected. The actual play as these guys mentioned. It wasn't like they were moving towards the goal. It didn't stop a goal anything like that. But as we have said, in so many sports soccer football, everything else when you go by the letter of the law, you have no choice. You don't give the referee choice in my opinion. If you're gonna have a letter of the law, then I don't think the referee has any choice, but to follow that litter, especially with Hilla bucket. Let's remember the referee was in a pretty good position. So not only what did she see? What's here? She might have heard something unfortunate. I remember when Italy won the World Cup back in two hundred six they'd be Ukraine with a player on their team dribbling away from the goal and the his back, he'll clip, and they got awarded a penalty kick in the same situation. I agree with everyone on the panel. I think it's you hate to see a game end like that. And I think the rules on some little should be changed. But I believe it's. To this team look like the team they are the best team in the tournament the favor for this Cup. Well, I you know, I was watching the game with Kevin. I think the concern is always been the back line and the goalkeeper and listen there early on with Becky Sauerbrun that mistake that they made on the Spain goal. You cannot make that mistake at this level. But I also think that Nair flay pretty well from that point on she came out strong on a couple of crosses, and the outside backs Kelley O'Hara, and also crystal done. I thought they route states crystals loved the wishy. Split alternative with the thing that the US women's seem does well better than most people realize it's conditioning. They stay in these games longer, because they are simply a better athletic team than most of these squads who have to go to these physical nature's. But that ninety that's what the US does better than anybody else at this stage that they can get through it all they do it. Well, let's talk about the games from yesterday, Brazil, and France rates tenths. And yet again, some VAR nonsense, France advancing. Mortem was incredible on the way out. I'm gonna talk about that later England and Cameroon yesterday. The words to describe what happened here very much. In question. Let's take a listen. Blige is going out worldwide about how that's goals playing all over the world. See, not behavior stunned of behavior that you've got to do it. I'm proud. I know it's emotional. I know their tempers running in a game like this. But it just got bizarre with the meeting and the complaining and the winning and the stock was starts and. That the high seed in world football and embarrassing to what because said, young children watching that you're there from England coach Phil Neville, the Falker FOX Thakur crew here Nick onto player through. Of bisciotti flights. We're good. To nationally on the field is different. Women actually. Well, I saw very unfortunate. I mean, I think the Cameroon team had a lot to be frustrated with not only with the officiating, but with the VR a AVI our review. And I think that you know that second goal the second goal that, that England scored and the goal that they scored that was race were very similar. I, I don't know how one team can be appeared to be all sides and another team not and the rulings go in opposite directions. So they had a lot to be frustrated about. And we've seen this once again with African teams I mean, I remember being in South Africa for the hosting down there. And how Ghana was was very frustrated in terms of the way their physical nature flay. They felt that they were being judged differently on the pitched and some other teams. And so you saw it come out here and it's just really unfortunate. And I just hate the comments from the manager from England do couldn't gates. How about you? I feel the same way in Phil noble talking about how people are ashamed of what they sell the person should be ashamed is never himself. Let's be clear about this, the language in the tonality that you use when referring to teams from certain places is extremely important in England of all places should know better as they invented the game. So to say that their behavior was out of line. Or what have you trying to, you know, tell little girls what they should and should not care about in appropriate in the space. If Cameroon felt they were wrong. They should've been allowed to voice that as they did. How they so choose tournament is about inclusion if certain people do things certain ways that is their choice in that should be allowed to do not admonish people for behaving a certain way when they felt they've been peaking specifically, they'll on what happened on the field Clinton. You saw elbows. You saw spitting. You saw referee be shoved his wells is they're not sending me. That's part of the emotion of the game. The ref is a part of the field. I understand that certain things people find unbecoming, but that doesn't mean that is by default wrong as a result look Cameron play. A game that was winnable. In this situation. They felt that it was taken away from them. I can understand how things got a little bit more really than they wanted them to write guy, solo. We brought in today because you were acting writing about this, this week, and you see this differently than Clinton Yates, and Kevin Blackstone, please. Well, I would say this, I think Cameron was actually pretty lucky that the player who spit didn't get sent off. There was an elbow, that player could have been sent up, but I do agree with Cameroon their goal should have stood. It should have been to one. So look at it from their standpoint. If you're, if you're a basketball team you go down to Duke, you're the underdog, and you feel like they're getting every call your football team. You go to New England play the patriots the better team. They're getting every call. And I think that was the emotion spilling over. But I'll say this on behalf of Phil Neville. Remember at the end of the match a player on Cameroon fouled his centreback pretty harshly right on ankle. Then the player rolled at the feet of the Cameroon coach, who didn't get out of the way. And I think that's what Bill medals really ticked off about. So that play happens late then within ten minutes. He's dressing. The whole situation on him to say that specifically again because the. Tonality is the where Clinton use my point here is that he went to there are children watching. There are girls watching is that not going too far. I don't think it is. I think he was upset with the way I think a lot of people are upset with the way the Cameron acted everything when against them, you motion one hundred percent people understand that, but the stomping around not restarting the game when you're supposed to it. Got to be a little MAC. And I bring you in here from from view. Sure. Yeah. So I just think the emotions clearly is what overcame Cameroon and I didn't like what I saw. I can't imagine that anyone did we can explain some of the reasons why they felt wronged or had reasons. But you know what you have to do a better job than that control and the coach, it looked to me at times was trying. He was hugging those girls so tight, so they wouldn't get out there and have those emotions erupt again. But what I'd like to address this shameful on all the back headlines of all the British tabloids. Seriously? You know what's really shameful about the World Cup? And women's soccer is that they don't get the money they deserve. They don't get the equal pay. If you care so much about women's soccer, why don't you talk about the real shameful things in this incredible point? Jackie, thank you for a dressing that, that is also to the side of this conversation. I think could you say those tablets were taking the cue from Neville and what he'll ask you that did never go too far. Absolutely. Let me step back and talk about what's happened during the World Cup. Do United States. Women were. Castigated because they celebrated so much. They react to the motion. They showed the kind of motion that we see in this country. Okay. Cameroon reacts with abortion. They are disappointed. They're upset. Sure, they did some things that were not classy, you wanna put their way, but it's the same sort of situation where people want them to everybody. That's participating woke up to be in the same box and just do exactly what they're supposed to do. I don't get it whatsoever. I think Cameroon had the right to sit there and talk about wall. Do we really want to accept this, just like the United States, women decided they wanted to celebrate? I saw Notting really approval in some ways it shaking it in other ways. I wanna go back to him on say's. This a lot of people are saying, you know, Phil Neville, who you talk, you played at Manchester United with two guys that were chippy players Roy Keane, antenna. But he's the head coach of team and everyone on this panel knows when you're a coach, one of your top. Stories if not number one is the health safety and wellbeing of your players, and that's who was talking about. Should take that up with the people directly involved in. He should also know as they head coach of England women national team that he is representing the game on a larger level in that is ultimately the problem. This is a bad look for this tournament when he read you brought up early because discussion we had, and that came about gender stereotyping, which, of course, is still in play ear can black Blackstone, looting to racial stereotyping as well here and Jack you bring up the here that it's also about the disrespect is game received all these can be true. All of port of this team. Also still go too far in their elbows in their reaction in reactions celebrating goals because you have teams that are funded differently and celebrated differently in their country, which then gets how Marta raft up her potentially her career here in the. Three not mind, this may be her. She may be the greatest time, have a to use her time here to stick to the younger generation Brazilian players. It's kind of an easy. She says, Ryan the beginning smile at the end. Bruins would also work at smile to beginning so you can cry, which is what martyr showing our here. We'll be back. Thank you very much. That's the PTI just the other fire cells. I. The word is brought to you by Taco Bell. Not Joe fries. Welcome back to around the horn coming to you from the Heineken river deca tear seventeen. York met manager. Mickey Callaway he's managing tonight. The Mets have apologized and sincerely regrets, and do not condone behavior of Calloway as widely reported because this happened. Hello in front of a all the reporters, Newsday beat writer Tim Healy Sankt. See you tomorrow. Mickey Callaway, not liking the tone reported the state. Don't be a smart bleep mother. Bleeper Mets pitcher, Jason bargains reports charged Healy Healy saying shorts, not the right wording. It wasn't that bad. I recognize I'm talking to members of the meeting here. But you all have unmatched insight here. If not stories, so how'd you hear all this? To me, this is the fun part. I understand it. Some people don't love it when players in media mix it up. But again, if I'm gonna hear all this stuff about how the New York media is so Dag on tough, and this that third this is standard operating procedure, every once in a while you're going to get into a disagreement, but somebody in a locker room because say players in me this was a manager of media different for millions. Same purpose members in uniform our team what he page. I'm sure you have stories. I give you let me. Yes, I confronted with a coach in an airport. He told me I could get on a plane. That was not a charter which is a regular schedule play. I've had players sick their figures in my chest. Call me every possible name you can, it's a nothing story when you're thrown together locker rooms like nothing store tuitions of this sort. Nothing to see here, Kevin blogs vote. I'm sure you've got stories. Let's go. I do have stories going nose to nose with a pretty famous football coach and going at it with a basketball player. But you know what? That's not something I look for in this game. I mean I understand that we are on opposite sides, and we have to be critical, and they have to respond, but not to this not to this extent, and then to have a player threatening, you know, we draw the line there. Jackie macmullan. Yeah. I I gotta disagree with you, Woody. I don't believe at all at this is nothing to see here. This is a manager that was thin-skinned made a media reorganise. And then emboldened his player to then, go forward into actually make a move towards a reporter. I don't know why that is ever. Okay. It's not. Okay. And you know, Nikki Kelly. An Apollo you should have happened within an hour. Current the metropol-. I understand what you're saying. There the fireable offense. Jackie. No, I wouldn't say fence because I do believe that all of us sometimes act inappropriately in the heat of the. Four seventy five winning percentage blowing. Cut it away might be. He could be fired for. All right. We'll move on buyer. Fill to another fans. Struck by mall again at Los Angeles Dodgers game. The seat was four rows in from the field passed the protective netting. Cody Belgian hit the ball, quote, I saw literally hit her face. I'm sure it was tough for everyone. I went over the next half inning to make sure she says she was. All right. Gave me a thumbs up fan whose name is not been released was given an ice pack initially then taken to the hospital, what he what is the satisfactory response from the dodgers here. And because spotlight is on baseball here. This is multiple times the season. What is the satisfactory funds for baseball? Respond should be where sorry about it happening again, we're going to extend the dating all the way down the baselines to the into left and right field and they can do it during the all star break. Let's get it done now not wait again to next year and there, be more. Yeah, I got a note from the nationals in the season ticket holder just last Thursday. And they said that they are going to use the all star break to extend the netting all the way to the corners. And this is to protect obviously the fans from any danger, but also the players from having to go through the anguish, jigsaw Bellinger, and more. The other week have to go through Jackie MAC. It's like a plan without him. Bishen is like a car without gas. Tony. It's not going anywhere. So if you really want to get it done, you can get it done. Don't tell us how hard it is. Don't tell us how difficult it is. You know what this reminds me of hockey back in the days when guys didn't wear helmets. Including the goalies people liked it that way because that's how they knew it. Eventually they realized this isn't safe. Let's change it, and you're referencing Commissioner rob Manfred support that it was difficult structurally involved parks to have this happen to the middle and our and our fans. Don't want it our fans don't want it. Well, we, we see Esca fan who got hit in the head. Of course they do. I think that's a good for Jackie and the point is defense who do want. It might be that are not in your ballpark, as a result, which is something to think about issues to see not just who does this in their own ballparks over the course of the all game weekend. But if they do it in the all-star game itself in Cleveland. Sit behind netting. Now how much it obstructs their view or changes their impacts already lost fan in the last calendar year actors, ballpark baseball still has not addressed that because well as they possibly sorry, Kevin Clinton of scoring guys today? We'll, we'll later, the which fades, Jackie polish soda nex fixes scores. Night. Teen standing ovations to curtain called homerun, plus the Yati Molina, and our pools. Jersey swap in hog plus with fans. And this was just incredible weekend. Wouldn't you take pools, his return to Saint Louis? Louis is number one baseball city in the country. Forget what Boston New York, say and the way they responded to a guy who'd been great in that city and with that franchise and it was the players, the fans the coaches it was fantastic. No canned music. No fireworks. No big announcements just two teammates, give sharing a great hug in front of all the people that sovereign succeed together. What a genuine moment, I loved ROY, they're genuine, you know, you see these videos, they can roll that all the time, this seemed much more organic than that, though. What you're getting a point for sticking to Boston. Right and jagged face. Well, move on fifteen hundred right now on the spot to give up your airplane seat with more legroom to Cam Newton argue doing it, Jackie demand declined. How do you believe? You know what having recent next surgery, I'm saying no to absolutely everybody. When I first class seat and the note to Cam, when you don't ever traveling secretary book your own flight, and get there on time, so you don't have to do this. Sure, I would've taken it for care. But I would've asked for more two season. Tickets a place on the bids next to you. UB to you. Back up what he fades. That's how you negotiate and earn thirty seconds of FaceTime. We always thought about grinding gears. What bothers every time I go to the grocery or go to a shopping mall. I see cart all over the parking lot is delay. In fact, up everywhere, Libby reach out, all you take your car to the place. Passionate or fights buddy who's going into the grocery McCarthy grid. What kind of society on? Good page. I love when your fears get grinded. And I love the when you go. She is back on the Panthers. And. See.
The political progress women have made -- and what's next | Cecile Richards
"This. Ted talk features activists Cecile Richards recorded live at Ted women twenty eighteen. Like, TED talks. You should check out the Ted radio hour with NPR. Stay tuned after this talk to hear sneak peek of this week's episode. Nearly one hundred years ago almost today. Most women in the United States finally won the right to vote. Now, it would take decades more for women of color to earn that right? And we've come a long way since but I would argue not nearly far enough. I think what women want today not just only in the United States. But around the globe is to no longer be an afterthought. We don't want to continue to try to look at the next hundred years and be granted grudgingly small legal rights and accommodations. We simply want true and full equality. I think that women are tired of retrofitting ourselves into institutions and governments that were built by men for men, and we'd we would rather reshape the future on her own terms. I believe. I believe what we need is a women's political revolution for full equality across race across class across gender identity across sexual orientation, and yes across political labels because I believe what binds us together at as women is so much more profound than what keeps us apart. And so I've given some thought about how to build this women's political revolution. And that's what I want to talk to you about today. So. Here's the good news. Is that one thing that hasn't changed over the last century is women's resilience and our commitment to build a better life, not only for ourselves, but for generations to come because I can't think of a single woman who wants her daughter to have fewer rights for opportunities than she's had. So we know we all stand on the shoulders of the women who came before us, and as for myself, I come from a long line of tough, Texas women. So my grandparents lived outside of Waco, Texas in the country. And when my grandmother got pregnant, of course, she was not going to go to the hospital to deliver. She was going to have that baby at home. But when she went into labor, she called the neighbor woman over to cook dinner for my grandfather. Because I mean, it was unthinkable that he was gonna make supper for himself. But the been there, but. The neighbor had no experience with killing a chicken. And that was what was planned for dinner that night. And so as the story goes, my grandmother in the burning bed in labor hoists herself up on one elbow and rings that chicken's neck, right? And that is how my mother came into this world. But the amazing thing is even though my mother's own grandmother could not vote in Texas because under Texas law, quote, idiots embezzles, the insane and women were prevented the franchise just two generations later, my mother, Ann Richards was elected the first woman governor in her own right in the state of Texas. But you see when mom was mom was coming up in Texas. There weren't a lot of opportunities for women, and frankly, she's her entire life trying to change that she used to like to say look as women if you just give us a chance we can perform after all Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did. But she did it backwards in high heels, right? And honestly, that's kind of what women have been doing for this last century is that despite having very very little political power. We have made enormous progress. So today in the United States one hundred years after getting the right to vote women are almost half, the workforce, and in forty percents of families with children women are the major breadwinners economists even estimate that if every single paid working woman took just one day off of work. It would cost the United States twenty one billion dollars in gross domestic product now in because of largely because of title. Nine which required educational equity. Women are actually now half the college students in the United States. We're half the medical students. We're have to law students. Right. Exactly. And I mean, one of fact, I absolutely love one of the most recent classes of graduating Nassau astronauts was what for the first time. Fifty percent women, right? The point is that women are really changing industries. They're changing business from the inside out. But when it comes to government, it's another story. And I actually think a picture is worth a thousand words, this is a photograph from twenty seventeen at the White House. When congressional leaders were called over to put the final details into the healthcare reform Bill that was to go to congress. Now, one of the results of this meeting was that they got rid of maternity benefits which may not be that surprising since no one at that table actually would need maternity benefits. And unfortunately, that's what we've learned the hard way the US for women if we're not at the table, we're on the menu, right? And we're simply we're simply not at enough tables because even though women are the vast majority of voters in the United States. We fall far behind the rest of the world and political representation recent. Is that when they ranked all the countries the United States is one hundred and fourth in women's representation in office one hundred and fourth. Right behind Indonesia. So is it any big surprise then considering who's making decisions we're the only developed country with no paid family leave, and despite all the research and improvements we've made in medical care, and this is really horrifying to me the United States now leads the developed world in maternal mortality rates. Now when it comes equal pay. We're not doing a whole lot better actually women now on average in the United States still only make eighty cents to the dollar that a man makes though if you're an African American woman, it's sixty three cents to the dollar. And if you're a Latina, it's fifty four cents to the dollar. It's an outrage now women in the UK United Kingdom just came up with something. I thought was rather ingenious in order to illustrate the impact of the pay gap. So starting November tenth and going through the end of the year. They simply put an out of office memo on their Email to indicate all the weeks they were working without pay. Say right. I think it's an idea that actually could catch on. But imagine if women actually had political power imagine if we were at the table making decisions imagine if we had our own women's political party that instead of putting our issues to the side is distractions made them the top priority. Well, we know research shows that when women are office they actually act differently than men. They collaborate more with their colleagues. They work across party lines and women are much more likely to support legislation that improves access to healthcare education, civil rights, and what we've seen in our research in the United States, Congress that women actually, they sponsor more legislation and they co-sponsor more legislation. So all the evidence is when women actually have the chance to serve they make a huge difference. And they get the job done. So how would it look in the United States? If different people were making decisions. Well, I firmly believe if half of congress could get pregnant we would finally quit fighting about birth control and Planned Parenthood. I that would be over. I I also really believe that finally businesses. Mike quit treating pregnancy. As a nuisance and rather understand. It is a primary medical issue for millions of American workers. And I think if more women were in office, our government would actually prioritize keeping families together rather than pulling them apart. But I'm perhaps most importantly, I think all of these issues would no longer be seen as women's issues. They would just be seen as basic issues of fairness inequality that everybody can get behind. So I think the question is what would it take actually to build this women's political revolution? The good news is actually it's already started because women around the globe are demanding workplaces. They're demanding they're demanding educational institutions. They're demanding governments where sexism and sexual harassment and sexual assault. Or are neither accepted nor tolerated? Women around the world as we know are raising their hands and saying me too. And if some movement is bathed so much more powerful, by the fact that women are standing together across industries from domestic workers to celebrities in Hollywood women are marching we're sitting in. We're speaking up women are challenging the status quo were busting old habits. And yes, we are proudly making trouble so women in Saudi Arabia or driving for the very first time, right? Women in Iraq are standing in solidarity with survivors of human trafficking and women from El Salvador to Ireland are fighting for reproductive rights and women in Myanmar are standing up for human rights in short. I think the most profound leadership in the world isn't coming from halls of government. It's coming from women at the grassroots all across the globe. And here in the United States women are on fire. So recent hires poll reported that since our last presidential election in two thousand sixteen one in five Americans have either marched or taking part in protests, and the number one issue has been women's rights. Women are starting new organizations they are volunteering on campaigns. And they're taking on every issue from gun safety reform to public education and women are running for office in record numbers, and they are winning. So. Women women's like, Lucy MC bath from Georgia. Lucie, lost her son to gun violence, and it was because of her experience with the criminal Justice system that she realized just how broken it is. And she decided to do something about that. So she ran for office in this January. She's going to congress. Okay. Or? Angie crag for Minnesota. So her congressman had made such hateful comments about LGBTQ people that she decided to challenge him. And you know, what she did? And she won. And when she goes to congress in January, she'll be the first lesbian mother serving in the house of representatives. Okay. Are Lauren Underwood from Illinois? She's a registered nurse, and she sees every day the impact of lack of healthcare access has on the community where she lives and so she decided to run she took on six men in her primary. She beat them all she won the general election when she goes to congress in January, she's going to be the first African American woman ever to serve district in Washington DC, right? Women are recognizing this is our moment. And don't wait for permission. Don't wait for your turn as the late. Great. Shirley, Chisholm said, Shirley, Chisholm, the first African American woman ever to go to congress and the first woman to run for president and the Democratic Party, but Shirley, Chisholm said. If there's no room for you at the table just pull up a folding chair. Right. And that's what women are doing all across all across the country. I believe women are now the most important and powerful political force in the world. But how do we make sure that this is not just a moment? What we need is actually a global movement for women's full equality that is intersectional, and it's intergenerational where no one gets left behind. And so I have a few ideas about how we could do that number one. It's not enough to resist. It's not enough to say what we're against. It's time to be loud. And proud about what we are for because being for full equality is a mainstream value and something that we can get behind because actually men support equal pay for women Baleno, they support gender equality and businesses are increasingly adopting family friendly policies. Not just because it's the right thing to do because it's good for their workers. It's good for their business. Number two. We have to remember in the words of Fannie Lou Hamer that nobody's free till everybody's free. So as I mentioned earlier women of color in this country didn't even get the right to vote till much further along than the rest of us. But since they did they are the most reliable voters and women of color are the most reliable voters for candidates who support women's rights, and we need to follow their lead. All right. Their issues are issues, and as white women, we have to do more because racism, and sexism, homophobia, these are issues that affect all of us. Number three. We got a vote in every single election every election, and we gotta make it easier for folks to vote, and we gotta make sure that every single vote is counted, okay. The barriers that that exist to voting in the United States. They fall disproportionately on women women of color women with low incomes women who are working and trying to raise a family. So we need to make it easier for everyone to vote and we can start by making election day a federal holiday in the United States of America. Number four. Don't wait for instructions if you see a problem that needs fixing I think you're the one to do it. Okay. So whether. So right. It's just start a new organization run for office. Or maybe it's as simple as standing on the job and supportive yourself or your co workers, this is up to all of us and number five invest in women. All right. Invest in women as right invested limit as candidates as change makers as leaders just as an example in this last election cycle, the United States women donated one hundred million dollars more to candidates and campaigns than they had just two years ago and a record number of women one. So just think about that. So. Look sometimes I think the challenges we face they seem overwhelming. And they seem like they're almost can never be solved. But I think it's those problems that seem the most intractable the ones that are most important to work on. And just because it hasn't been figured out yet doesn't mean you won't after all if women's work were easy. Someone else would have already been doing it. Right. But women around the globe. They're on the move, and they are taking strength and inspiration. From each other. They are doing things they never could have imagined. So we could just take the progress we have made enjoying the workforce and joining business and joining the educational system and actually channel that into building true political power, we will reshape this century because one of us can be ignored two of us can be dismissed. But together, we're a movement and we're unstoppable. Thank you. Thank you. For more TED talks, go to Ted dot com. We take most things for granted. Like our morning coffee. But there are a lot of people behind that Cup of coffee and AJ Jacobs set out to thank all of them. That's what it made me realize how interconnected everything is. 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"From thirty rockefeller plaza in new york city. Please enjoy this. Podcast edition of late night with seth meyers on today's show sept chance with journalists adam davidson about the end of the trump presidency. But first a word from late night rider inexhaustible. Well the back the late night in a couple of months kamla harris become the first female vice president of the united states women everywhere. Wow kamla harass another thing to add to her list of accomplishments. Sorry everybody this is one of our writers dean. Do saskia dna. Why are you not excited about comma. Harris is because you're not a fan of her policy positions now is because it's ridiculous we have never had a female vice president let alone president. Not really so then. What is it all right fine. I'm just jealous okay. There's no need be jealous. I mean you could run for office one day to and how come kamala harris found a jewish man to marry an. I can't boy. Do you know how hard it is to find. An eligible single jewish male to marry in kamala harris is already a senator. Now she gets to be vice president. Doesn't she have enough. Come on leave. Some mentions for the trenches. Look dina senator harris husband. Doug off is about to become the first second gentlemen of the united states and he's jewish when they be a historic moment for the jewish people. Sorry seth i didn't hear most of what you said. I got a little distracted. After you said the name doug hoff. Who is it hot in here. Is it just me really you think. Doug emhoff's serious look at him. The man is a stone cold hunk. Can you blame me for being jealous. Becca seth he checks all my boxes. Successful corporate litigator check grown children who are already out of the house check and i mean come on the grain temples the broad but soft shoulders. The polish smile. That says. I personally know an orthodontist. Wow i can't believe that guy turns you on set. I don't want to get too graphic but right now compared to me. Cardi b. is like the kalahari desert dina. That was extremely graphic. Seth i am not going to apologize for the fact that i know how to paint pictures with words. Look i guess. Kamla harris being vice president isn't all bad. Why not well it would give me a lot to complain about as a jew. That's basically an ideal scenario kosovska. Everybody we'll be right back a peabody award winning finance and economics journalist in podcast or his book the passion economy the new rules for thriving in the twenty first century is available in paperback. Now please welcome to the show adam davidson. How are you at them from doing. Well it's nice to see you again as well. So i wanna start your obviously an economics reporter and the world is going to change a great deal. I imagine your work. We'll still be rigorous but tell us how you think it'll be different under a biden administration compared to what it was like trump administration. I mean i am so excited to have no idea what biden thinks about any american company or foreign company So excited i mean the other day biden had some speech and i was like i don't even have to watch it. It's gonna be boring. Which is good. i'm thrilled. it's going to be boring if it's a sign of very dysfunctional economies. I've spent a fair bit of my career in developing world highly corrupt nations. Where you think a lot about what the president or the leader is thinking and feeling about different things. Different companies different aspects of the economy but in america. Typically you want the president just sort of thinking long term big picture. You don't really wanna know what they're thinking. Day to day month the month. About the stock market about boeing. About which air conditioner companies should be doing well which isn't so yes. Boring is generally very good for the economy. How do you describe the brand of trump's corruption having covered it for so long. So i really have done a very deep dive of travel to central asia and other places to to cover him. I would call him presidency presidency. As a real bottom feeder on the massive corruption that existed in america in the last i mean in the world in the last twelve years and i think we hear so much about russia and this and that is if trump was like the The in charge of the us russian corruption. That that's not the case but what we do know is that over. The last two decades half of russian wealth like trillions of dollars from russia and other soviet former soviet nations flowed into the us into the uk capital flight money laundering and lots of institutions including major banks and major businesses made hundreds of billions of dollars trillions of dollars off of this trump was more in a bottom feeder. A few million here a few million there by offering a big shiny gold brand to otherwise thoroughly corrupt projects. And it was. This is the thing i would say. People seem fine that he's corrupt. I don't think they understand how bad he is at corruption. How incompetent he's like the sydney powell rudy giuliani of corruption. He's left a lot of money on the table in structures the deals badly. It's that to me is what we should be focused on. He's really crappy corruption. So this is interesting. Because i think a lotta people might think that donald trump is the cause of everything that ails us. When what you're saying is again. There was this sort of corruption at the core of modern economies. That he took advantage of. I'll be badly. What is the. Is there a risk now. That with him out of office people relax and say i'm so glad the corruptions gone when as you say this is institutions not just governments but also major banks banks that are still thriving. How is an economics reporter and just that feels in general. Do you hope to have the same sort of. I dunno eyeballs from an audience. That might maybe get distracted. Now that is going to be hard. I mean i think we have a two things are true. One thing is trump was uniquely awful as a politician as a force in economics He was also a part of trent. We have a multi decade long Decision not to prosecute white collar crime. So while i personally believe that i myself and others have shown evidence that trump is almost certainly done things that could land him in jail. We just don't really have an apparatus to go after white collar crime aggressively my instinct is. He's not going to jail. Because we don't know how to prosecute those cases very well and but at the same time. He's a crude ugly version of a fundamental thing about manhattan. Where you know all those big towers that are eighty percent empty and are filled. We know with money laundering that money laundering so inherent in the real estate business in new york and london and la. It's inherent in a lot of our banking system. So yes have a really really big problem. That's way bigger than trump and involves people who are a lot more sophisticated a lot more subtle that we really need to address that that is Gonna define our democracy. I think. I think there's evidence that when democracies have collapsed. It's for this kind of thing. The rich people use a corruption of the system to capture wealth. They haven't earned and it. My book is really all about how each of us can capture how you do earn in a new way. But we're in a war you know it's a subtle war but a war between value adding business and corrupts rent-seeking stealing businesses you being in new yorker have obviously known about donald trump your life do you think if he had been you know a better money launderer and not the sort of bottom feeder you described mom. He never would have wasted time running for president because he would have had all the money needed. Yes i think that. A mark of good money launderers is. They're not in the papers. You don't know who they like money laundering university. That's like the first day. The very very first a buddy of mine paul peletier. Who's a former prosecutor who teaches a course on he calls it money laundering at a law school. And he said oh i should have said anti money laundering though. Yeah the first day you realize. Like i definitely got three or four people in this class. Who were here to money. Launder our here. My laundering big part of our economy and the people who are good at it. Yeah part of being good at it is you. Don't yellow by and he openly remember openly talks about bribing foreign officials talks about how money laundering fuels real estate. It'd be he's an embarrassed and the good people of the money. Laundering industry reflects so badly on. You talk about. We don't really in this country. Have an apparatus in place to prosecute white collar crimes and he likely And i agree with you is not going to go to jail. But he does seem that he has some you know civil Exposure here a not just him but his children and you've sort of pointed out that maybe vodka trump has her hands and more things than than we were led to believe. I would say it was an initial surprise but it's now really robust is the finding that not just me. I'd say every reporter who covers the trump organization is just how central vodka is to the shady or parts of the business and in one of the stories that i reported in the new yorker in three years ago about this unbelievably shady dylan azerbaijan. Truly i publish this. The new yorker published this and the trump organization said nothing was wrong in the article and acknowledged that they were part of a money laundering scheme. Iran's revolutionary guard and the person leading that project vodka and. I have on the record from people involved that she personally called for the destruction of this community. This working class community in baku azerbaijan. Because she wanted a larger park for her hotel residents and i even went to azerbaijan. I met people whose homes were destroyed. Who whose lives are permanently worse. I think ivanka is as many people. In the trump world will say she's. She's the tougher of the trump's. She's not none of these people are geniuses but she obviously has a savvy. She has a sophistication. i think. It's obvious she is made a major pivot from being the kind of progressive in the trump world to just been full trump world. But in a way. I think that she hopes will capture those suburban women that that trump demanded love him. I think she is the threat. I think she's the risk going forward because she. I mean my colleague. Andrew bernstein and others have reported on how she was going to be arrested and manhattan. Da sivan's decided not to arrest her even though there's email evidence of her acknowledging committing a crime. She's she's bad news but she's a lot better than the rest of the family at pretending she's not. I wanna talk about something optimistic before we go. Which is your book the passion economy and it does speak to what you were saying earlier that there's a way for people You know not giant corporations to interact with consumers at a level Making things that they care about deeply actually make a living. Yeah i mean actually the work of my book. A lot of it came out. I was working with a group of economists business. School professors at mit and harvard. When we all thought hillary clinton was gonna be the next president and we were very frustrated that she wasn't articulating an optimistic forward looking message about the economy. And i think that group of people and certainly me believe we have real real issues. No question it's not to say. Oh everything's gonna be great. But that there are opportunities for everyday americans that have never existed before and that are in. You know they're they're they exist because the structure of our economy has changed. And we would actually in that. Were talk about how at other times when you some aid your shifts in how an economy works when trade started becoming a big thing in the eighteen nineties when agriculture gave way to industry in the early nineteen hundreds it often paves the way to authoritarians who No people are afraid and confused and and want simple answers but that is the message of my book. I mean basically. I just tell the story a lot of people who figured this out through their businesses. But i do believe we. The twenty century truly can be a great century for americans and people around the world economically politically etc. But i also think we're in a war. I mean the the forces of money laundering really do want a different economy and And i think the jury is still out but each of us has an opportunity to succeed in a way we never could before. Well it is nice to have a book that sets out a optimistic path. And it's always really lovely to talk to you. Thanks so much for being here. Adam thank you said. The passion economy is available in paperback. Now late night. With seth meyers airs. Weeknights on nbc. Twelve thirty five eleven thirty five central original music on the late night. Podcast is by the e. ban. Don't forget to follow the handle late night. Set on social media and tell your friends who subscribe to the late night podcast wherever they get their podcasts.
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Full Episode: Wednesday January 20, 2021
"Thanks for joining us today. Our nation witnessed a new chapter in american history unfold on the same steps where insurrectionist desecrated the us capital two weeks ago joe biden and kamala harris were sworn into office in a peaceful transfer of power vowing to unite a divided nation. Joseph robin by junior do solemnly swear that i will faithfully execute i will faithfully execute the office of president of the united states office of president of the united states. Congratulations mr president joe biden. It was an oath seventy eight years in the making. Now the forty sixth president of the united states alongside his history-making vice president khama harris the first woman first black first south asian. Vp's support and defend the constitution up tonight against all enemies foreign and warn the pair inheriting a fractured america refacing attack under democracy and untruth a raging virus growing inequity the sting of systemic racism a climate in crisis america's role in the world. Any one of these. We'd be enough to challenge us in profound ways. He called for a stop to pitting read against blue rural versus urban conservative against liberal. This is our historic moment of crisis and challenge in. Unity is the path forward. In our country's moment of crisis the new commander-in-chief heading straight to work signing a stack of executive orders to spend days time to work immediately. The whole register of the day was different. It was less entertaining and more serious but almost because we were taking things seriously in the ceremony. In his speech that was a relief and even even a joy to people it felt like a return to normalcy day. Began like no other inauguration day in modern history with the outgoing president breaking with over one hundred fifty years of tradition refusing to attend the ceremony. Leaving town early but vowing to return to the public. I in some form have a good life. We will see you soon. Thank you thank you. Donald trump refusing to show up for the inauguration of joe biden and honor. Our democracy was his last act of vandalism of it it was just two weeks ago today when these images shocked the nation and the world today the west front of the capitol reverting to its traditional backdrop literally held my breath as they were walking up the stairs for the ceremony and then that moment when they walked with their families by felt this peaceful one of the heroes of the insurrection escorting kamla harris to capitol police officer eugene goodman who in a split second decisions steered a mob away from the senate chamber the capital the audience socially distance restricted in size due to the pandemic and the spread of violence triggered by the outgoing president's still new makes some members of congress even wearing body armor to the ceremony. The fact that that it went off well that we didn't allow fear we didn't allow individuals who wanted to sacrifice our democracy for their own benefit. Succeed twenty five. Miles of fencing erected around washington and thirty five thousand security personnel deployed an unprecedented level of security to protect guests including all the living presidents. Except jimmy carter and the now former vice president mike pence tone somber but hopeful together. We shall write an american story of hope. Not fear of unity not division of light not darkness story of decency and dignity love healing greatness and goodness lady gaga sporting dove with an olive branch. This your jalen injecting some latina pride into the occasion and ma and country singer garth brooks a republican encouraging viewers. At home to join together. I forget ask you seeing this last verse with me. Not just the people here. The people at home at work as one. Oh united Xenia but it was the national youth poet laureate. Amanda gorman reading a poem she wrote after the assault on the capital who captured are machinations. When day comes we ask ourselves. Where can we find lights in this. Never ending shade the loss. We carry a c. We must wade. We've braved the belly of the beast. We've learned that quiet isn't always piece in the norms. In notions of what just is isn't always just is the twenty two year old invited by first lady jill biden. We lay down our arms so we can reach out our arms to one another we seek harm to none and harmony for all she like joe biden suffer from a speech impediment and that she is a shining example of what's great about not only our country's present but our future at seventy eight biden is the oldest person to be sworn in as president in one thousand nine hundred seventy two when he was first sworn into the senate. It was in a hospital next to his young sons. Who'd been injured in a car accident that killed his wife and infant daughter hunter and his half sister ashley at their father's side today. His son beau died of brain cancer during biden second term as vice president a hundred miles away at beau biden's graven delaware alone man in uniform silently paying tribute vice president harris honored by her alma mater. Howard university forty nine bells. Ringing to celebrate harris as the forty-ninth vice president of the united states women and girls watching harris breaking barriers demise amid so much that people look like me as a woman. it's empowering to see a woman vice president and as a mother it means that my children will not only here that they can be anything they wanna be they can see to feel are a wonderful life specically. I can't believe indian. Women across the country are wearing their pearls in their charts in solidarity with this woman. Who has gotten to this very very high wrong. She stands on the shoulders of giants. She wore her purple for shirley chisolm and her very famous line which i love and it gives me chills. Every time i may be the first but i will not be the last. The chair lays before the senate to certificates of election for the state of georgia and a certificate of appointment to fill the vacancy created by the resignation of former senator kamla d harris of california. Yeah that was very weird. Okay as the newly minted. Vp harris swearing in those three history-making democratic senators successor. Alex padilla california's first latinos senator as well as georgia's new senators reverend raphael warnock. And jon ossoff the first black and jewish centers from georgia at just thirty three the youngest democrat since joe biden in one thousand nine hundred seventy two. Vp harris is now the crucial tie-breaker in the senate with a fifty fifty party split making new york. Senator charles schumer senate majority leader. You've got the majority you need. And i think you move forward in what you do. Is you hope. And you also pressure. Republicans to stand up and fight for people to you. Know republicans won't get off. The hook biden begins his presidency with an approval rating of sixty eight percent. He and harris committing to building one of the most diverse cabinets in american history. I think they understand that. In this moment they get the chance to really set the standard for the future with a pared-down parade and much less pomp and circumstance. The new administration set to work immediately. Biden's first act as president. Those seventeen executive orders. One asking americans to wear face masks for one hundred days others reversing president trump's most controversial acts including revoking the so called muslim travel ban rejoining the paris climate agreement and preserving daca program. There was one inauguration day. Tradition left intact a letter to the new president. From the outgoing one left in the oval office though the contents remain remain a mystery was private. I war talk about until i talked to him. But generous the next order of business. Donald trump's impeachment trial wants house speaker. Nancy pelosi sends it to the senate which could happen as early as tomorrow tonight. A star-studded virtual celebration including a message from three former presidents. I think all of us discovered that we're at our best when we're all moving in the same direction with one theme unity. We are bold fearless and ambitious. We are undaunted in our belief that we shall overcome that we will rise up coming up. How president joe biden plans to move the country forward. Staying informed has never been more important. Information is coming at us faster than ever. So how do you make sensible start here. Hey i'm brad milkey. Abc news in every weekday. We will break down the latest headlines in just twenty minutes straightforward reporting dynamic interviews and analysis from experts. You can trust always credible always solid start here from abc news twenty minutes every weekday on your smart speaker or your favorite podcast app. For the brand new biden administration. Today was a day of celebration but the work is already underway to break down the ceremony on the road ahead. Earlier this evening. I spoke with republican. Strategist on a navarro former democratic. Senator of north dakota heidi heitkamp and abc news contributor. Tara set mayor. Thank you ladies for joining us at the end of a long yet historic day. Heidi i want to begin with you. You were among the few there. In person. At joe biden's socially distance swearing in today. Your seventh inauguration. I understand and you call the ceremony. A bipartisan sigh of relief. What was going on in your mind. Why i think everybody is just tired of the drama. And they want to get to the business of governing Joe biden outline. Just all the challenges ahead of us and they know now instead of worrying about a tweet or about craziness coming out of the white house. There's going to be a very reason and and contentious. i think debate about. How do we tackle america's greatest issues. It was always about america. it's no longer about donald trump and that's society of relief. He has a huge inbox. What is on joe. Biden's pry or any less right now. Heidi i think clearly the pandemic because you can't cure the ills of the economy without the figuring out the pandemic but i also think he's looking long-term income inequality. How do you fix that. He's looking at climate and these looking at securing a better future globally for our country by working more cooperative with our allies and taryn president trump. Quite pointedly was not in attendance today and now that he's no longer in the white house longer on twitter as a former republican. How do you think his power over the republican party changes and how are the political lines going to be redrawn for senate impeachment trials. So i think that it was appropriate for the moment that we're in that donald trump was not there today. His absence was notable but appropriate given the trail of destruction. He's left in his wake. His hold on. The republican party seems to be rather strong despite his role in a violent insurrection. We saw how many republicans voted to contest the election. The free and fair results of the election of joe biden which was very disconcerting. The fact that he's been d- platforms and that his he's in a lot of legal and business peril post-presidency could perhaps sway some to move away from him. But if the pardoning of steve bannon and bringing him back into his orbit is any indication of the future that donald trump is looking toward starting a new party or fashioning the republicans off the republicans have a real real problem and they need to have a soul searching reckoning about what the future of the party will be. Because i see civil war in the republican party. They continue to go down the road of donald trump and trumpism. That's a dire prediction on joe. Biden said he wants to unify the country that was his main message and then he signed seventeen executive orders. Many reversing trump administration actions. Does that risk alienating. The seventy four million americans who voted for trump. Who joe biden said. Today he appealed to. I don't believe he's main concern. Is the seventy million people that voted for trump. I think those journeys urgent issues that be done right now in america that needs to be addressed. And that's what he should be Joining think what he calls for unity a lot about tone. What he talked about was not having things to the level where it is a civil war as just mentioned. I love job right. I want to help joe biden. I want to cooperate with joe ryan. But i'm very angry. I'm very angry. At the lack of accountability and the lack of responsibility that so many republicans are not taking in their role in terni. Donald trump into the franken stunned the political. Oster that you turned into and suitable for me. It's very hard to get to unity when there is an of responsibility and accountability. Let's linger in the history of today. Give me your defining moment from today. Oh no or buts lesson. Seeing the first woman vice crescent and a woman of color being sworn in and being sworn in by the first latina at a supreme court the wise latina herself. Sonia sotomayor using the bible of the first black supreme court justice. Thurgood marshall the historic significance of that had me. I mean teams absolutely. Heidi honestly if amanda gordon gorman. The poet laureate is the future of this country. We are in terrific hands. She was amazing and brought the spirit of youth and unity. I moved beyond tears down here. her. And i'm so grateful. Thank you all ladies for joining us. Tara i'm sorry. We're out of time but i'm sure that your thoughts are just as memorable as little as are all of ours. Thanks again for your time today. Might god that's a great thought to end with. Thanks ladies and finally tonight we leave you. With the majestic moments from the inauguration that made us pause and reflect on what it means to be american. Thanks for staying up with us. Good night america. I give you wanda mission unusual cockle. Oh that was ever in question. Marvel studios i series has arrived on disney plus you ventures. Something's wrong hill. The universe is expanding karimi. Welcome home marvel studios one division. 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66: Be unapologetically ambitious, confident and lean in into your leadership potential with Sheryl Sandberg
"A strong and independent woman is something to behold. She plays his own bills buys her own things and she doesn't let the men affect her stability or self-confidence off. She is a soul rich woman. Are you ready to be rich doing what you love me on purpose and in control of your life again at home women will love the airport Podcast Thursday. We will be openly talking about getting more clients online getting recognition as leader and female entrepreneur and also the f word being fabulous having freedom and financial Independence. It's time to own and love the F-word welcome to the show. Hey beautiful today. We have a really special guest her name is Sheryl Sandberg. She is the CEO of Facebook, which means she oversees Facebook's business operations specifically helping Facebook scale its operations and expand is global footprint. She is also the founder of lean in this is a global movement a global community group where Cheryl found it to support women striving to reach their Ambitions. So I met her in Hanoi Vietnam an opportunity when I was there on a project for sole Richmond. I spoke with her hang out with her and managed to did some recordings. I really hope that you enjoyed some of her life and perspective in this perspective of a call this recording she shared a lot about how she coped with her life balance a life do the world. She's doing now and I really hope that this really inspired you to do more as well for women who love the effort all the world's most companies most countries local government. Everything's wrong. Mostly my net. And that means that women's voices are on people you were and all the tables were decisions are made and I think it would be a better world if you were using the full population and Halloween is your goal into reading That's pretty deep Link in our culture. I I didn't people from outside. The United States are always a little surprised but it's in the United States to my thing is to share. Once that with you off in the United States women have 5% of the top senior jobs and here in Vietnam. You have almost seven Vietnam is actually on that metric one of the two highest in the whole world wage, which is fantastic, but it's also 7% And so culturally there are huge differences between the United States and Vietnam and all their members. But all over the world about eleven other cultural differences are low name is true, which is Thursday and women are encouraged to give toddlers. So men only only men your raise your hand you were called bossy as a little boy. Okay, where do you raise your hand in your golf ball? Z as a little girl. That's the issue. And so the idea is we need to encourage women to make ambitious and the world is not going to do with words. We are going to have to do it ourselves. And so where do not have a few years, of course, there's a lot of data that says next year's people your age can be as good as mentors at anyone else and so far as data off like they called us to Logan. I started my Foundation was to get women into local chapters local circles, so they can explicitly to eat and we Bishops and have a place to say I'm going to dream big crack raid and I'm going to go for whatever I want. We hope for a thousand circles. That was our goal. We now have 34,000 registered you guys weren't even registered, So, you know, there's a lot more out there which is so exciting because this was my dream all along was to have amazing women like you and like all the way over here and all off. And where you're inviting us really working towards the quality programming which is just entirely get to read the news. I'm so what do you think is the most important objective of having off and and we have been having trouble or the last five years and what we've had plenty has been all over the place. So what we know about circles is not they're very empowering some people who are going to two-thirds of the women who joined the circle will take not in the opportunity because of the encouragement of their starting wage, you know, 70% of a waiting to join the circle will go on to the games. They weren't otherwise in a difference notice. It happens because the circles get together every month and support each other and encourage each other and I know everyone has really busy lives, right? You haven't gone hours at work you and your friends some of you have children. The question is, where do you carve out that off as a woman something about when you want to get a very hard to do the math by the circles are working and being having being that for five years and what is going to be the name after the fighting it and groceries e, So the goal of lien was just and Way Beyond the United States Way Beyond me. I mean it out all the women and so I hope next five years ago all of you to take on Long Beach pretty nice status. Yep, the production you want to have children and you want and know that if you choose to you could be a mother and a great great great professional job, you know all over the world. We all know in some ways. We made a lot of progress right but it's always there's a long way to go. So the way it's having Vietnam has 36,000. The United States is 20% There is no country in the world where women are equal to men in the same world. So it's been five years of snow crab shack in circles. And I think is our chance to continue to do more and more and more. It's not enough about how seldom can tell us a Bible and believing Tuesday is you have day where you feel off. 9:00 this is this is the heart of Leaning the heart from being is not at the same level of a performance men often have more confidence than women and here's off because if you have a certain level of performance and you ask anyone around them for the person themselves for an American male accomplishments are number one with high and we're there, humans are a little busy. And so that means that we are systematically underestimated ourselves and everyone around us system as memorable number, purpose. I want to make clear and am doing as much to live in advance. This is not gender-biased. It's a bias that everyone comes and so this is why we know that men get promoted based on their potential to get promoted based on what they've already done. And so the goal of the meeting is to tell people even if you have a hundred percent feel like report apply for the job. Anyway Builder confidence the best trip I ever came off my driver jobs having years after I mean, it's on what kind of fortunately which is which day to write down three moments that you did something well and the dad and I put this in mind your website for a little local fire gun, just a little tiny notebook and write down three things. You did level where you guys located and if you really small, you know, they take off macro meeting. I can be really small but I realized when I started doing that because I never realized that I was spending every single might think about what I did on Thinking about all that wrong rather than what my right and the level of this is what I did. Well really helped build my confidence signing it and it's a great trip everyone doing nothing else here today three things you do. Well at the end of the dive into what advice do you have for us here? I'm online and I will. The biggest source device I have is to offer any Ambitions. I really making sure you can you go for whatever you want. My favorite question ending in there's really a Facebook question, which is what would you do if you were afraid, you know, as long as I'm going to give you a break and Enter tile, there's a lot of data behind what the people were dragged and we're almost kind of people almost always are very bad things they did in to do not regret the big they did even if they don't work out. I mean my goals I like people to get paid but in comparing Facebook and I really want to wait in to drive all over the world and my goal has always been from birth. Win and to reach for leadership roles when I filled with confidence that they tend to stop the messages. We have a men telling women and women's Hollywood and they can't do something. I'm getting off and you know, I agree because they're important enough to leave this very very important. You know, the by-product clarifies. I don't remember negative. I don't do everything well worth the time. I know great team. That's how anyone get anything done. It's just a great team. It's a hard question for anyone if it hit much harder question for me and I'll find lost my husband and I was a single parent. Yeah, the way I do it is one of the home and not happening. I'm home for dinner ideas. And when I was travelling it's harder and I really really fast so much as I used to do one more off my husband, but I think I always when I first had my son was long time. I twelve years ago. I remember working I can go and my always always always wasn't me off the side of the selling those around side of the family and I really didn't think I could do my job and not being you know, and right now my son I went back to work after lie and I realized that off he was a sweet from 7 to 6:30 in the morning so I can I change my hours. I was never able to do whatever it takes me waiting for twelve hours a day off. So I really had to make that change now. I was learning that I was pretty secure but I knew over a possible way. I made that change and I personally thought I would never be able to do a little bit of a job. But no one even worked out. I started leading down to the time when they're younger. They were returning leaving working and after he went to bed at night off work and then when my husband died, you know you travel at all for like six months and I was so hard for me. So we're going to get my dog again and we can't do this but then I had I had a choice but not travel for many many months and it turned out it was okay and I struggled all that you because I don't think it has to be as dramatic as amusing apartment on or off. There's a lot of things that's going to be believe we have to do that. You do not think that taxes you actually think we're not in right under that pressure to make sure everything and everyone and you can't do it and sometimes being able to say no in to a friend's. I'm so sorry. I can't come to your house for dinner. It's pretty as an hour. I believe off. You might have to the things that are absolutely essential family job or whatever it is. It is essential for you. How do you say father in any kind of his stuff later tonight or Thursday morning, and I tried anything official so not perfectly but sometimes you have to like prioritizing your family of choice. So if you have any advise all of you know, these are very individual decisions, and they're culturally culturally resonant residuals. I feel very strongly that women shoes when and able to marry and so in China there have been natural amazing leftover related with you all about them. Yeah, and you know, actually when you were told that there are a lot of your life, you're not married and a lot of other things and that way we are moving out and saying some of the money that they're in them and that's great. But some of them don't think they their families I get to make this choice and so I can't sit here and tell you what I'll get married at twenty eight point five years or twenty six point five years. That's not the point the point. Is that when you marry marry her, lol May need an area. So one thing that's true all over the world, but it's particularly exciting here engaged and obviously an alcoholic route to Asia. Is that off the majority housework and childcare the great majority the graveyard and that is culturally important here in pretty much everywhere in the world. That's something that's hard to change but World oil change and your sense that I'm not good at the time that everyone here to get information quality and America's off, but you can probably get more than individual child and maternal father involved with the children is really really important or your children when they when you're not so often do you say you can date you everyone just don't marry those guys, you know, like they're really cool guys not going to help you that much, There's no good days. Those are not my husband's. The husband he wanted someone to support your career and you can have this conversation and some of them said to me if I have this conversation is maybe he won't bring up the second day and I said, well you might as well find that off for you based on County one also recognized religions in the younger group. Try not to being a girlfriend. That was too much. I don't take a boyfriend. Don't do that be nice and other ways because it's not only the states too is women's get into this pattern movements early relationships of off. I'll take care of you know, what you'll be something out for the rest of your life. Whatever you're from the beginning my father Mike from the very traditional household. My father Works. My mother Works inside the home by 11 a.m. Every night. My father did know a little Journal. So but the one thing he did was he died and that was that was miserable and he had that truck from the very beginning so when I was getting married off, I'm hoping careful what you do in the beginning. So you just come here and everybody we don't go back and start ironing. See what I really want to do. The rest of your life sucks. I want to share for the men you're into the women Jordan socks and I'm here is really important is that it's really good for the resulting. So at any income level at any income level in any country with children is father's I was spending more time with them do better. It's better in school think you better professional learning. They are happier. They are healthier life physically healthier and you're more attached to each other emotionally. So in any metric you care about for men here with a manual one day married. It is important for your kids. Not a favor. It's about being a real partner for your children. I also have a man all over the world. If you want to do something great for your girlfriend or partner or wife. Don't buy flowers do volunteer, you know, do you think about the days is right off of your early whatever. So I said this on a late night TV show in the United States and ahead of activity, which is the largest War flat flour stored in the country song. Then we have a play about this day and age it's helmet to do laundry and send flowers. Why didn't you write a book and what kind of vehicle that meant? So that's my husband very excited me two and a half years ago. And I really didn't know what to do when my younger and as I turned my friend Adam brand is a psychologist and he started teaching me what psychology and teach about getting a graduate and I wrote the book because it was such a bad experience and he helped me survive off and I want to change my vehicle and I was like, my husband was an incredible now, let us know getting instead of just myself if I did something good in his name and kept his memory alive. And and so the question is often we go through something really hard and it can be that if you can answer it could be busy a job. It can be using a parent. Everyone's life is touched by something. No one is living the perfect life life. And we actually get stronger for those for those troubles on those challenges. Now, I really want to get stronger before the challenges if I can trade all the learning and take it off your hands and so recognizing the things that are different and better from what I learned is so important and the major lesson for me making my friend is a gratitude. So actually 48 in August. And before I lost a I would expect my thirtieth birthday. Indiana was sad times the doctor right? I know like, oh my God, it's two years. I'll get me 50. I'm getting a little Wingers right right off. And I will go out in the morning. I turned forty eight of the deepest and most compelling sense of gratitude that I needed I made and I feel awful variety for being alive, which I completely took for granted before and that is mainly like about and so everyone here celebrating a birthday song. Remember to make jokes about growing old. There's only two options. If you already know and growing old and the last name, and I know this is a society where there's a lot of respect for elders. 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The Women Who Fought For The Right To Vote
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This is Internet I'm Greg Johnson and today August Eighteenth Twenty twenty marks one hundred years exactly since the passage of the nineteenth amendment and that my ladies is why we are allowed to vote here in the United States. Women fought for the right to vote for decades. It is one of the longest social reform movements in American history. And odds are you probably know about some of the women who fought for that right women like Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Katie Stanton. But there are lots of other women especially for marginalized groups who helped fight the good fight who aren't necessarily remembered in you know our high school history books. The author of a new book is hoping to change that. Her name is Victoria Chambers and she is a senior editor at the New, York Times. She and some other time staffers teamed up to write a new book called the finish the fight, the brave and revolutionary women who fought for the right to vote. For Annika is with us now from New, York in the midst of a thunderstorm Veronica. Hi. Thank you so much for having us me I am. You can you can speak in the Royal Get So essentially what you've done here is you've framed suffrage women's rights have vote in the context of a lot of other important social movements in US history, right? Things like abolition and native American Land Rights and immigrant workers rights can you talk a little bit about that? Sure. So when we first started thinking about suffrage a little bit over a year ago we ask ourselves, what do we know and what came to mind immediately was Susan B Anthony Susan B Anthony Dollar. Elizabeth Key Stanton some people mentioned Alice Paul and then it was just kind of like sitting in a room with a look each other going to all went to school but. Not Remembering a lot more. So the great thing about being a journalist. Is that you get to ask a lot of questions. So we actually sent out a survey to about thirty historians, writers curator's he wrote specifically about suffrage voting rights, women's history and said, what do we not now and that became the basis of our project and then in some ways? It's complicated but this is not until he can get nerdier. Totally. Let's do it. First of all history is murky nineteenth century. It's you now and then the archives of people color is super murky. There's a lot of recording of what was done typically open. What people did and so basically what the upshot was that suffered histories really shorthand for women's history and that suffrage tales with everything that touches. American life from eighteen thirty to nineteen twenty, and then really through the voting rights act of nineteen, sixty five. So this is a kids book, but I mean it's it's not just like big pictures and five words of page like this is still dense. You're not dumbing this down. You've obviously researched the hell out of it why write a book for kids? Heart of it was going back to our younger styles and thinking what do we wish? We'd been out you know and so I think we thought that would be a great way to start I think a log journalists when you're trying to interview people and report stories you often say explain it to me like I'm a ten year old I'm so what we? Thought we'd start with our own like sort of deep dive into suffrage as if explaining it to ourselves as a ten year old ten year olds and how you weren't kidding there is a storm happening over there Yeah I think it's the spirits of suffragettes pass. I love it still making trouble. But you have to kind of know a lot to condense for kids and so as we go into the coverage that we doing it the times now, it's really great because we got all this kind of. In our heads and really s great background. Totally. So one story that I I mean there are a lot of stories in this book that I had never heard about before. But one that I thought was really fascinating especially given the context of Rosa Parks was Francis Ellen Watkins Harper? Yes. She is so funny how? A if you become like a total history narrative, sorta stunned to get history crashes on people. Like Francis Elements Harper was one of our favorites. So yeah, in the eighteen fifties, someone asked her to move seats in a streetcar. And she refused and it. It's interesting because what you start to see is that they're all these ripples of the. The things that we come to know like Lusa parks refusing to give her seat up on the bus ray because I feel like that story you know it all starts a hundred years beforehand you have these really smart, well educated women who are saying no, and sometimes it ends really poorly sometimes like Francis Ellen Watkins Harper says with pride I rode as far as I wanted to go and then he wouldn't take my fair. So she threw it on the floor. So you know but I also think what's heartbreaking about her she someone who was kind of like just the ultimate kind of bookish woman and then when when she learns about a free black man who's captured and sold into slavery she realizes that she has to. She she just can't. Confine herself to the page. She has to become an activist because. Because it's needed and the human rights element is so large and I think that's an interesting thing I think for young people to see. But you know to really realize there's an evolution of leadership. Sometimes, people don't want to make that choice, but they feel like they just can't take the injustice anymore, which I think has interesting parallels to the moment that we're in and what we saw this spring with black lives, matter and set. Again, just you know needs, repercussions and these ripples in echoes of similar conversation similar soul struggles happening again and again I mean yeah. There's a you have a quotation from her. From speech that she gave added women's rights convention in Eighteen, sixty six and she said, I, do not believe that living. That giving the woman. The ballot is immediately going to cure all ills. Of Life, you wait women sphere of rights I speak of wrongs. I mean, if that's not resident today, you know I can't I can't tell you what is yeah. Completely completely, she just was so powerful and I think. I think there was this feeling among some suffragettes that because suffered because the suffrage movement was so closely tied to abolition abolitionist movement that. There should be kind of a feeling of. Were on your side, support us and will do right by you and a lot of black women suffer just like I'm not sure. So as it turns out, it's not always the case. So, what are some of your favorite stories from the book You know I really love the story of Mary Church Terrell, you know I think that she is someone who we come to realize. I had known the phrase lifting as we climb, which was the Black Woman's Club slogan I didn't realize it had come from a speech that she had given in ninety eight. at a convention of suffrage. where she famously said seeking no favors because of our color, no patronage because of our needs, we knock at the barb justice asking an equal chance and basically after the Fifteenth Amendment passes a huge divide among suffragettes because black man, the Fifteenth Amendment Black Men the right to vote. Yes and so black men get the vote for white women which does sit well with some white women but you know I think what's so interesting about Mary, Pierce wral and black women is this idea of when black woman went into political parties in power they. There was no one they would exclude because they're not excluding anyone by. They're not excluding anyone by race or class, and that idea lifting as we climb, it's really like the whole idea of like we're all bound in this together and there's just an opening of doors I think really important to the movement and you know when the movement is ratified. On the eighteenth of Nineteen, twenty they in Nashville because of the. black a coalition of black and white women working together. It's just very powerful to kind of. Give these women their place in suffrage not that we're doing exclusively. A lot of people have done this work but tracks journalists in in our bucket was exciting for us to realize like were putting a lot of needs back into the story that aren't always taught aren't always told absolutely we'll. I think another thing you do which you're not the first to do but which is still really important is to remark upon the fact that Yes, women got the right to vote in nineteen twenty but it's still a lot more complicated than that to exactly like Mabel King Lee is another one of our. Actors she was a woman young woman sixteen years old becomes active in the suffragette movement. She gets her mother involved in it so much so that you know their records of it in the new. York papers the Chinatown papers about how Mabel King Wiley is a Lake Sassy little suffragette and I'm and now she's got her mother going to meetings to, and yet she knew that because of the Chinese exclusion act, she would not be able to vote herself when the nineteenth amendment passed and in fact, she was unable to vote because Chinese immigrants were not allowed citizenship exactly and native Zucca saw who's one of the native American women activists the same thing. Until the Snyder Act of nineteen twenty, four and forgive me if they get some of these dates wrong. But I, think I have the right. I mean you're doing great I wouldn't know for you. It's so funny. It's like Minnie's tart start talking about history. You're like, Oh, my goddess stories are GonNa. Come for me on twitter. You know I'm a generalist I take note there. Oft. Yet. Our Best but you know I think it wasn't until the. Until the CIDER act of nineteen, twenty, four that native Americans were giving citizen ship rights that allowed them vote bit even after that. There were Jim kurl tactics no made from the polls, and of course, you know black people You know there's a story in the book the toss in our theater piece where literally the night before the election in one, thousand, nine, hundred, twenty. The KLU Klux Klan comes comes to marry McLeod Bethune school and tries to get her and her students who are of age not to vote to threaten them and. And she starts singing a spiritual until they can turn on the floodlights in the school and when all the lights are turned on and and people realize that they might be able to be seen. By the clan turns around and leaves but I guess you know a lot of times people ask me what do you want people to get out of this book and you think? Like just a simple reminder that our vote is so powerful that three generations of women. Worked for this like from Seneca Falls to nineteen twenty women activists were activists on behalf of suffrage labored for this lake with all of their beings in their lives they died their daughters became suffragettes they died their daughters were able to vote only one woman who attended Seneca falls live to vote in nineteen. Twenty. WHO'LL VERONICA I'm going to cry. So you know it's just, I think that's the other thing is just Remembering that Change can be slow and these women who really I. What struck me is I think the best of suffragettes and I know some people will come for me because they want to remember that some suffragettes were super recessed and I'm on the radio you can't see me venom after Latina I get it I know I know how racism like with so much this has been, but this time I I really can say with as much passion of, I can muster that having spent so much time reading these stories that like what really unites the best of these women is that their futurists they don't know that this is GonNa make a difference in their lives. They just know that this is what they want for all women and this is what they want for the country and I think that pretty amazing. I'm glad that you mentioned Mary Club as soon because she had another quote that you mentioned this book that I just thought was really beautiful and that it's so resonant with what you're saying right now, which is we've fought for America with all her imperfections not so much for what she is worked, what we know she can. Exactly. Yeah. Now, I'm just going to sit here and cry for us yet. It's really beautiful. I, think we're still doing metric, right? Yeah, I think. I, think we all believe in its potential, which is why we do what we do ray. More with Veronica Chambers and just a minute. Net is supported by best fiends new mobile game that will engage your brain with fun puzzles and tons of cute characters. Enter the world of minutia collect characters, level up your team, defeat the slugs, and play over fourteen hundred levels for hours of fiendish fun. Best fans is a five star rated mobile puzzle game that's been downloaded over one hundred million times, and you can download best beans now for free at the apple APP store or Google play, that's friends without the are best means. As, we're recording this. It's the news of Kamala Harris getting the nomination. For VP is very new and it makes me think of. Either we didn't get to talk as much as we wanted in the book our coverage about the British suffrage movement No Emily Pankhurst had that famous quote where she said you know suffer just don't break the law just to break the law they break it because we wanna make laws and I feel like to see a woman, get this historic nomination realize how rare it still is You know we had one of the things we thought about doing was a chart a global chart about. That would dubbed Hail. The dates in which a woman got suffrage in a country and when a woman. became the. Country and it turned out to be complicated for a lot of reasons and We didn't do it but you know when you think about the challenges we've had with, you know frankly getting a woman into the White House of any background and any party. You think when you realize just been a hundred years. That women have had the vote on paper in really. Far. Less. Than that. When you date it to the voting rights act you start to realize wow meath made incredible strides but were still so young. In the In the conversation of navigating gender and political power. New Story Yeah. So yeah. How else do you see Komo harasses historic nomination as being kind of the next chapter of finish the fight I mean, do you think to a certain extent? She's GonNa be helping finish the fight weather or not she and Biden our elected. you know I think it's really hard. To say that. That a woman will what a woman's? Place in office how that will be shaped by gender I I do think that. Ultimately I feel like the reaction that I've seen to her nomination feels very much like it. Again, echoes of what we saw when Jeannette rankin gets elected to Congress in nineteen eighteen, two years before the nineteen amendment you know there's just this feeling of joy. When you see women get to inhabit spaces, they've never inhabited before and you realize how? Hard people fought. For them not to be there that it wasn't just. No woman ever did this. It's not just coincidentally an exclusive space. Yeah. It was a lockdown. And people battle with their lives and everything they had. A. Well obviously, we've still got a ways to go but Veronica thank you so much for writing this beautiful important book and for helping could fight. Thank you for reading at in for letting us have such a good. Conversation about it I love talking about suffering. Veronica Chambers the author of finish, the fight, the brave and revolutionary women who fought for the right to vote. All right. That's it. For today, our show is produced by me and Justin Bull our executive producer is Brendan Bene- Zach and remember in words of Shirley Chisholm? The first African. American. Woman elected to Congress. If they don't give you a seat at the table. Bring a folding chair. Camping Jer. Stool or just like a cardboard box. Like. Just get in there just to just doing.
Joe Bidens Big Win
"From New York Times. I'm Michael Barr this a today. Joe Biden scores a lopsided victory in South Carolina prompting Pete Bridge to drop out and potentially resetting the race for the Democratic nomination. Alex Burns on. How Biden did it and what his victory could mean for Super Tuesday. It's Monday march out. Let's talk about what happened on Saturday night. I'll tell you what happened to meet the polls closed at seven PM. Meaning that's when the results are supposed to start trickling in good evening. We are coming on the air now breaking news in the race for the White House and went to the Times homepage and the race had already been called out. Seven o'clock on the East Coast and Fox. News decision desk can now project. Ds News Projects for Jackson. Who is the winner in South Carolina? Which is a little strange well. That's what happens when there's really not much suspense involved on election night. The fact that we could make a projection right as the polls closed. It's going to be a significant win for the former vice president. We only see it in races where the people who make these analyses and assessments. This is overwhelming. What we're looking at. We have talked believe that. There's really virtually no doubt at all about the outcome. And in fact we're the outcome. Looks like it's going to be really lopsided in the direction of One. Candida numbers coming in the raw vote total but we can project that it is going to be big. It'll be dominant. And this was one of the biggest victories we've seen for any candidate in this campaign. This is a blow out and buying is winning. And almost every category Biden carried the state by almost thirty percentage points Bernie Sanders way behind with about twenty percent. Third Place candidate Thomas with eleven percent and nobody else in double digits. Thank you thank you. South dominant dominant dominant win all of you the heart of the Democratic Brian. We just want one big because I want to break down exactly. How Biden one so big. What actually happened. In South Carolina in terms of who showed up and for which candidate so South Carolina's primary electorate on the democratic side is always majority African American and Biden carried black voters basically in every age group especially older black voters who carried by any normal margin when you look at black voters who are younger. It's somewhat more even a lot more even with Bernie Sanders but Biden still very much holding his own. Which is usually not the case with Joe Biden and young voters we also saw higher turn out higher participation in the Democratic primary among suburban moderate white voters in South Carolina. They also favoured Joe Biden. This was not a situation of the kind we've seen in other states where Biden does very very well with African Americans much less well with white voters in South Carolina. You're looking at an electorate that was largely African Americans and moderate whites and those two groups are very very biden friendly. Let's start with the black vote we had talked on Friday about how black voters have tended to align behind a single candidate behind Barack Obama Behind Hillary Clinton which helps explain why the black vote can become so decisive but there was talk. This year that there would be a more fragmented. Black vote particularly along generational lines. It sounds like that's not exactly what happened. Well it's not what happened in South Carolina Bernie. Sanders did not do a whole lot better with black voters in South Carolina. This time than he did. Four years ago and the question going forward is going to be weather. Sanders can improve upon his performance with African Americans outside the south in a way that right now it doesn't look like he is doing in the south it's a more conservative. Black electorate in the south although african-american primary voters everywhere do tend to be more moderate. And what is the significance of that high rate of white suburban turnout for Joe Biden? If Joe Biden is going to end up as the Democratic nominee it has always been clear that he has needed to join his strong support with black voters with a couple other big constituencies in the Democratic Party including a good chunk of white voters. He has so far done far better with less educated lower income and older white voters then with the sort of suburban soccer. Mom White. Vote that probably characterizes a lot of these suburban areas if he can going forward think about the suburbs outside of large cities as places where he can do really well and join that with his support from less affluent and perhaps more rural areas as well as heavily African American parts of the electoral map. That's actually a pretty encouraging picture for Joe Biden Nationally. He has been trying to make the case to Democrats in this race that he is the candidate who is best equipped to reassemble the coalition. That has won them. Such a series of electoral victories in the trump era in the two thousand eighteen midterm elections when Democrats piece together strong turnout among their core base constituencies with moderate voters in those suburbs if Biden can week after week point to the results of primary elections and say look at what. I'm doing what we did in the midterms is what we need to do in November. That gives him a strong moral case to make for the nomination. So Biden's basically saying think of me like these house. Freshmen in the purple districts who won in two thousand eighteen and help the house flip the Democrats right and in South Carolina. We saw first real glimmers of hope that he might be able to do that The question is whether South Carolina is a turning point and now that there has been a big win for a moderate candidate in a diverse state whether that triggers a coalescing of moderate constituencies across the political map or whether we are still going to see Bernie Sanders recording victory after victory on the strength of his very intense hardcore coalition on the left while the moderate vote remains splintered because in South Carolina. The moderate constituencies are really really well aligned for Joe Biden. He is deeply familiar with the politics of south. Carolina has decades long relationships with many of the most important political figures in the state. He's not going to be able to say that everywhere and what we will see as the primary proceeds is how much what we saw in. South Carolina is a result of Joe Biden's distinctive relationship with that state and you can easily see the race reverting to the pattern that we've seen in other states. So far where Bernie? Sanders has his very energetic plurality coalition and Joe Biden is still jockeying for support against folks like closure to some extent Warren and as of the next round of primaries Mike Bloomberg Bernie Sanders has a huge head start organizationally financially in a lot of the contest around the country. He has had the momentum from Iowa New Hampshire and Nevada at his back Biden needs to turn around his campaign in a very very short period of time. It's not impossible by any stretch. But I don't think that anybody close to Joe Biden. Looks at him today as anything. Besides something of an underdog. We'll be right back I'm dealing thrice CO founder of palace obscure and host of. So you want to work abroad a new podcast from Cole. Haan and tea brand studio at the New York Times in my twenty S. I spent years traveling the globe freelancing and wandering and I built Alice obscure to encourage other people to Wander. So you want to work abroad. I'm investigating another way to travel taking your career abroad. I talked to people who've made the leap giving their advice on one central question. What does it take to build a global career? Listen now available anywhere. You get your podcasts. So let's talk about how all this helps inform what's going to happen tomorrow. Super Tuesday fourteen states are GonNa vote on the same day and if I'm not mistaken something like thirty percent of that. Electorate will be African American first of all. What do you think matters about what happened? In South Carolina in terms of what might happen on Super Tuesday so the Super Tuesday map is enormous and enormously diverse and there are states like South Carolina where black voters could end up playing a decisive role up to this point we have seen that electorate divided between a couple of different options importantly between Biden and Bloomberg. And why are they choosing between Biden and Bloomberg? We'll especially older. African American voters entered this primary season really favourably disposed towards Joe Biden. You had this enormous reservoir of goodwill based on Biden Service as Barack Obama's Vice President. And then he had a bunch of really weak debates and he got clobbered in Iowa and he got clobbered even more in New Hampshire and suddenly voters across the board including African. American voters started to wonder. Is this guy really the strongest option for the general election at at exactly the moment those doubts were starting to really percolate in earnest rate president and Ineffective Mayor Leadership? That makes a difference. He's been a leader throughout the country for past twelve years. Mr Michael Bloomberg is Mike Bloomberg shows up with five hundred million dollars in television ads. Many of them showing him side by side with Barack Obama. Thank the mayor of this city mayor Bloomberg for his extraordinary leadership and talking about his record on issues like gun control. That are very very important to black voters and Democratic primaries. The hope for Joe Biden going into Tuesday. Is that those voters who were with him at the start and drifted away and were drawn in by Mike. Bloomberg will look at his own win in South Carolina and at Bloomberg's pretty rocky couple of weeks on the trail and sorta go home right and to look at Biden and say you know what I had my doubts about this guy where there's a reason I liked him at the beginning and I'm GonNa vote for him now so let's talk about this white suburban voter that we've been discussing on Super Tuesday. This is someone who will be decisive in states like Virginia right right. And what's the dynamic in there so this is another constituency where at the start of the race. Biden was doing pretty well in those areas. You're talking about sort of educated white professional class. That certainly isn't interested in Medicare for all and definitely wants to beat. Donald Trump and Joe Biden had come into this race as a swaggering dominant front runner and had blown away the competition and debates. I think he would be rolling in those areas. That's obviously not what happened. And for most of the last year you've seen those voters feel pretty drawn to a sequence of Alternatives Elizabeth Warren Pete footage briefly. Amy Klobuchar even Kamala Harris. When you look back to last summer these are people who are looking for a winner and they're looking for somebody WHO's not necessarily super ideological and there is a hunger. I think especially among a lot of high information white voters people who follow the news really closely to sort of glomming onto whoever the hot new thing is that has been For much of this race recently you have seen a lot of interest in Mike Bloomberg people who feel like they are new and different and look like winners right now. Biden has again a narrow window to look to those people and say listen. Your choices are me and Bernie Sanders. Who were you more comfortable with out on this subject? By Bloomberg ever since results started to come in from South Carolina it is occurred to me the Bloomberg original rationale for entering the race was that Biden had to collapse and he was collapsing right him. He was doing very badly in those first. Few primaries and the thesis from Bloomberg was the reason to keep spending. Money is to emerge as the alternative to Biden out of the ashes of the Biden Campaign. But there are no ashes at this moment in the Biden. Gave me is doing quite well. So is this a super Tuesday in which might Bloomberg has no real rationale. We're going to find out on Tuesday. I do think his rationale is a lot more strained right now than it was a week or two weeks ago. You know. Part of it is about Biden being more resilient than I think. A lot of the Bloomberg folks expected part of it is about Bloomberg himself having had such a rough couple of weeks on the campaign trail. This is how you describe your policing policy as mayor quote we put all the cops in the minority neighborhoods and explain that is quote because that's where all the crime is. You went on to say the way you should get the guns out of the kids hands as to throw them against the wall and I them. You've apologize for that policy that what does that kind of language say about how you view people of Color or people in minority neighborhoods Bloomberg had really set himself up as this imposing alternative four moderate voters and for even non moderate voters who are mostly just interested in beating president trump and a lot of those people saw him on the debate stage and concluded. This is actually not so imposing after all. Well if I go back and look at my time in office the one thing that I'm really worried about embarrassed about was how it turned out with stop and Frisk when I got into and that probably needed to happen in order for Biden to make the kind of comeback that he is attempting now. Okay so tell us about the other key voters that we're going to be seeing on. Super Tuesday the other demographics when you look at the Eastern and southern states it is mostly about the moderate whites and African Americans that we've been talking about so far and then when you start to move further west. That's when Latino voters become extremely important and Asian American voters as well. The biggest states on the Super Tuesday map are Texas and California and if any candidate wins either of those states and certainly if any candidate wins both of those states it gives them an enormous claim to lead the Democratic Party nationally potentially establishes them with a huge lead in the national delegate count and right now the only can that looks like they're in a solid position to win both of those states is Bernie Sanders. Now there's a strong case to make right now that someone like a Biden or maybe even Bloomberg has the chance to pull off an upset in Texas. That's a state that has a more moderate electorate overall where Latino voters are more moderate than they are in California. And we're you do have a ton of those moderate white collar suburbs that are so wary of Bernie Sanders when you move into a state like California. It'd just a much much more liberal. Primary electorate from top to bottom and every poll that we have seen out of California so far has suggested the Bernie Sanders has a pretty solid and maybe even dominant lead in the state so we could end up in a really unusual kind of situation on the night of Super Tuesday. Where for much of the night? It looks like Joe Biden or Mike Bloomberg or another candidate is doing pretty well because of the makeup of the states that are in the eastern time zone in the central time zone and then as we move closer the west coast suddenly Bernie Sanders leaps out ahead and it becomes clear that actually he is the guy who has had the upper hand all along. And that's what we will discuss at four. Am with you on Wednesday morning. I'm looking forward to tell us what you're describing in. The broadest terms sounds like a super Tuesday evening in which as we move across the country from east to West. We go from states that are likely to break for moderates and are more testing the question of Biden versus Bloomberg than they are sanders versus all the moderates left in the race. And then we head to states as we head. West that are likely to break for Sanders and are demonstrating what sort of coalition he has built and how strong it's going to be. I think that's basically right. I think in the East there still is the dynamic of Sanders versus all the moderates and the very fact that there is a realistic chance that Bernie Sanders can win. States like Virginia and North Carolina is a testament to just how fragmented the moderate vote has been for most of this race and it is entirely plausible that from start to finish on Super Tuesday Bernie Sanders dominates from coast to coast that. Moderate voters in the east are split between Biden and Bloomberg and moderate voters in the West are split between them as well and bring sanders by varying margins with coalitions from twenty-five percent of the vote to forty percent of the vote just dominates the night that is a real possibility it is also a possibility that sanders is gonna find that having a hardcore base that makes up about a quarter of the democratic vote in a lot of these more moderate and diverse states is actually not enough to win in a scenario where somebody most likely. Joe Biden has emerged as a standard bearer for folk closer to the political medal. That's interesting so the version of this Alexander's essentially walks away with the nomination after Super Tuesday is the version of this or the question facing voters of Biden versus Bloomberg actually cost both by name. Bloomberg the win in the East and south by splitting the vote the version of this where. It's much less clear. And there's really no clear winner coming out of this is if Biden managed to pull together the moderate vote in those places. I think that's right. I think we should think about Super Tuesday. In terms of sort of two big questions. The first is does Bernie Sanders become a dominant front runner. Does he manage to just roll over the divided moderate wing of the Democratic Party and run up the kind of delegate lead that would make him a prohibitive favorite to go into the Milwaukee Convention with a wide lead in the delegate count. If that happens then everybody else in this race including Joe Biden is going to need to really assess what kind of path forward they think they have. And whether it's really worth waging a fifty state war against sanders in order to try to take away the at a convention where Sanders will enter as the clear leader if the answer that question is no if Bernie Sanders is not an overwhelming favourite. After Super Tuesday. Then I think the second question is is Joe Biden the clear runner-up or the clear alternative to Bernie Sanders. Because that is what has eluded Biden and every other moderate candidate in this race. So far is a moment of clarity that signals to the entire country. This is a two person race between a left wing candidate and me Biden hopes that South Carolina has set that process. In motion it needs to come to fruition. In very very short order on Super Tuesday and then from there this narrows to a Biden Sanders race and then the campaign moves places like Michigan and Arizona and Georgia and Florida. That will really test the medal of these two guys as head to head candidates in states that are super important in a general election. Thank you thank you. Today is the moment of truth after a year of going everywhere meeting. Everyone defying every expectation. 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Did we boost vaccine hesitancy?
"This is an abc podcast. Mass vaccination is our only way out of the covid pandemic but for months now. Australians who are eligible for the job have been taking the time booking an appointment and earlier this month one survey found sixteen percent of us didn't want to be vaccinated adult so why are have some breaking news related to the vaccine rollout. It's just coming in joe. Hill joins us. Joe getting word of an aged dez. Australia recorded a second death. Luckily linked to the astrazeneca vaccine after a fifty two year old. Sydney woman passed away overnight. Australia v star vaccine utah countries vaccination time. It's in disarray. this morning. Following a late night press conference with the government shelve plans to roll out the astrazeneca jab to millions of people. Under the age of fifty the government is recommending. The fis of vaccine be given to young people instead with urgent attempts to. We've all been quick to blame politicians for the slower uptake in australia so far but today we're looking a bit closer to harm. Have we in. The media may too much of the side effects of vaccines and the to likely linked debts. I'm saving smiley. And i'm christine gagged and today on the signal. How much is the meteor at fault for the high rate effecting hesitancy in australia and with the bridge back to normal life now looking much longer than expected can we and should we try to repair the damage. So they've definitely been some mixed messages coming from the very top of the government on australia's vaccination program and look. That's at least in part because what we know about the vaccine side effects has changed. Yes so initially. The advice was that astrazeneca was the vaccine recommended for all adults. And then those guidelines would change in early april to say was the preferred vaccine for only the over fifties based on new medical advice and then in the month since in order to be able to cater for the more than path of the population who are not over fifty strategy went on to sign new deals with two other pharmaceutical companies and madonna right and at some points. You've had the health minister. Greg hunt seeming to justify opting to pass on astrazeneca altogether and to instead white for pfizer. Right now we want to encourage everybody over fifty to be vaccinated as early as possible. But we've been very clear that as supply increases later on in the they will be enough beck sane of vaccines for every Okay and that reluctance around getting astrazeneca. That greg hunting out there is because of well publicized issues around a very small risk potential fatal clotting which we will lay out in detail in a sec but older reporting on it. It seems like many people have missed that. The risk of developing that condition is very small berry very very small. Could we get you to introduce yourself just your name and position if you could sure dr. Dennis mala singer research fellow at the center for advancing journalism at the university of melbourne wonderful. Now we know that know vaccine. Hesitancy is a problem in australia. Suggests that the number of people who choose not to get the vaccine at the moment could be as high as a third of the australian population. The question is i guess. How did we get here. How much do you think the media has to do with the answer to that question quite lock. Because that's how people get most of their information but having said that it's not all their fault. I mean they had to report the government's bengals and messaging at the report the incidence of adverse effects relating to astrazeneca But the uproars audible. that's being. I think that there's been a sort of a negative vibe. Grow around getting the vaccine because they ended up last year. We had paul's china's that vast majority of people were hanging out for it. You know something percent. But now i think with all the delays and that negative vibe was being time for concerned about the blood clots this being time for complacency to sit in and i think those two factors really have shifted people's attitudes quite dramatically because redondo situation in which a thorough south the adult population saying. I may not get the vaccine. So that's a disaster before we go on. Let's set out the complicated picture of what we know about the blood clots so according to the commonwealth health departments are website. The risk is that between four and six people in every million vaccinated with astrazeneca will develop a condition code thrombosis with rumba side opinions syndrome. Or t t s and just for context the therapeutic goods administration. Most recent weekly report on vaccine safety does quite a number higher than that. That's been observed in australia. Although the tj is counting probable cases as well as confirmed once yes so as of the end of last week. The the tj and the chief medical officer professor. Paul kelly say that of three point six million astra zeneca vaccines administered in australia. They have been forty eight confirmed or probable cases of tedious of which they say. Fifteen are very serious now. Obviously the number that people really worry about is the number of deaths linked to the vaccine and this is where it gets less clear yes according to the tgi they have been two hundred and seventy two reports of deaths following vaccination which sounds completely terrifying. Yeah right but then. Not debts linked to the vaccine. They just debts that happened after vaccination bearing in mind as well that the population receiving the vaccine at the moment is older than the population is a hall so in terms of deaths likely linked to the vaccine. Well it's a much much smaller number. The number is two and on friday. Prophetically confirmed what he said was the second death a fifty two year old woman from new south wales extremely unfortunate situation of the fifty two year old woman who had had the vaccine a couple of weeks ago and has developed this extremely rare as in this case sometimes quite serious clothing event. Okay now the tgi in its most recent weekly report this is from thursday has also said it is still investigating two other deaths which if confirmed would take the toll to four. It says it's looking into the case of a fifty five year. Old man who died with blood clots in his lungs. But who didn't have t t s and seventy eight year old man from w way who had multi organ failure but for her to quit. Tgi there is today. No causal link with the astrazeneca vaccine. And we're gonna talk about how the media is reporting these kind of cases lighter but first let's get an overview from dennis about how even going with covert more broadly to get a sense of the context. And how will this fits in. Obviously talking about the media. As a monolith is pretty reductive off stump. Lots of the media that it had been better this than others. Oh yes certainly they have been. I think on the hull A lot of the media outlets have done quite well but they have been repeat offenders. The i have to say the murdoch media in particular because taking their cue from fox news in those phar- off days of donald trump's presidency. When you remember mask wearing was a sign of communist socialist handled this is now. This is now the pseudo religious significance almost of nice wearing as being a good person. Instead mass or purely assign of political obedience like kim il sung pins and pyong we wear them because we have to listen. We know that china has used the covid to reinforce control over their population because communism requires submission and compliance will taking their cue from fox news over there. The murdoch press here and in particular sky news. The middle of pay television channel have politicized the whole issue. I mean they've railed against the science. They mocked mask wearing look at this image from mba. Say they did a whole pace on these quoting dr foul. She and other experts saying that two miles is seventy five percent of patients free masks ninety percent efficient. But you know. I stop at nine percent. I mean what just where four or five miles stop. Breathing altogether zone out about the need for lockdowns. Live on it now but here are the facts that you need to nine. You're not hearing on the news telling you about what's happening in victoria. One thing. that is absolutely clear. There is no need for statewide lockdown. I will stand by that so this has been a good deal of bad work. And i have to say. It's not just murdoch channel nine today. Programme disgraced itself twice. Firstly ahead pauline hanson on making a racist attack against the people in melbourne with the with the flemington high-rise which contain a lot of immigrant. People will look down. Of course these people up from non english speaking backgrounds probably english as their second language who having attained to the rules of social distancing. They all use a lot of the same laundries. The fact is that a lot of there gary thousand head and extreme right at the united states women called the lorraine who says kobe is a conspiracy to change the world right tweeted a scathing review of the restrictions. Saying this is literally prison. Almost every facet of covid nineteen had been abroad and it's attract coney and measures that have been taken in response to covid nineteen have been based on fall and fall figure. So you've had those. But i think on the whole they have been out lies. I think on the hull. A lot of media have done a lot of good work on on covering this. I've certainly done the job that we expected. The do of holding governments to account and of keeping us informed of the important developments but inevitably. There's going to be this element in the media. Who who might trouble okay. Now just on that comment from dennis. About pauline hanson and the today show on channel nine so the today show cancelled the queensland senators regular spot after those comments while senator hansen later said the comments weren't racist end. She was raising points. That what's voters agree with any right. What dennis is talking about there is commentary rather journalism or news reporting so next we ask what he makes of the journalism specifically your most of that. I've been talking about has to do with commentary both in the newspapers particularly Daddy telegraph and the herald sun and of course sky at night but the reporting i think iraq decide the reporting has on the hull being being good and in particular during the big victorian lockdown last year with that andrews giving what hundred three a press conference. The reporting of that was pretty good. I think struck a good balance really between holding the victorian government to account particularly for the failures in hotel quarantine but also not pushing that to hide understanding that. What the melvin. And the victorian population reading needed was information on the hull. The media struck that balance. Pretty well talking there about i. Guess the pandemic broadly but If if i if i can Just focusing us again on the the issue of vaccines. I mean there have been some For example in may the estonian press council found a sub head in herald sun story that read six people dead during fis at trial. was misleading. It sort of implied that the vaccine caused the deaths. When in fact the deaths related to the vaccine That sort of reporting. I guess contributes to the hesitancy that we were speaking about before. Is that sort of reporting wrong. And how could journalists do that. Better attlee wrong. It was a complete beat up. It was completely misleading because it was true that six people died during the fis trial but that heading implied that the vaccine caused the deaths but infected. That's related to the vaccine at all. Four of the six had been given a placebo during the trial. So i didn't get the vaccine at tool and the other two weren't related to the vaccine so it was utterly misleading sexy the kind of beta alarmist anxiety making journalism. Which is the last thing that anybody needs. In these circumstances now. That story was about the size of vaccine. But i think a lot of the Reporting that people have taken issue with Is around astra zeneca I guess it's only fair that we look at our own work on this front as well. We did episode of the signal earlier this year. How worried should you be about astrazeneca. We'll get into the content in a but shall we start with the title problem with putting an episode out there with the headline like that. I do to be honest. Why didn't you have a hitting said the truth about astrazeneca. Why focus on the worry. Because in fact as i understand it the content was about both the benefits as well as the risks. So why focus on the risks in the heading. I think the heading let you down to be honest so we should have. it should have been something lack. Why you shouldn't be too worried about us zeneca or all. I wanted to cite the truth about astrazeneca. I mean i thought about heading myself. Speaking as a former chiefs click auto sounds fine to me. I mean that means people people who are interested in. What's going over. That janika might well listen But has been primed to read about this to learn about now that seems to be the thing right so a failed from dennis on a headline yet. He's not letting us get away with that. One which i think is fair enough to give an. We knew by then how worried we should be about. Astra zeneca which is to say not very worried. Yeah definitely but of course podcast episodes on just the headline yet. They're not so yes. Dennis about the content of the episode to it was hosted by me and angelo up here by the way in the actual episode if you if you did if you were sufficiently lured by the headline and he clicked on it and you listen to it. We went into detail About with an australian immunologist from our mit kylie quinn. We looked at the likelihood of developing clots. And how serious. It would be if you did. He let's listen to a little bit of that right. So the logical next question is how many people who've had the astrazeneca jab have developed. Vi take incredibly few but carly says if you do get it. It's really really bad. This condition is still very rare. That one in two hundred thousand and bill pox and number may change in different populations but this particular condition the impacts of at a quite significant looking at this stage again. I'm very at mortality. Writes about twenty five percent and people who do develop the condition just quickly what we now call thi s the acronym for thrombosis with from beside pena syndrome used to be called be. Itt the next change in april just after opposite came out. How do their well. That's okay. I mean that was basically factual it was true to say that the consequences can be really bad. Twenty five percent of the people who get these clots lie. But it's only one and two hundred thousand to get the clocks and all of that was was in that broadcast. I didn't see any problem with that. Toll it would have been good to. I think go on To talk about an up she did People who are more prone to getting That sort of reaction. We know that people would certain underlying health conditions likely to get it Did you go on to talk about the the sorts of conditions that might predispose people to had that sort of reaction. I think we did. Yeah we did But you know we did make. I suppose we wind because it was the basis i think of concern in europe and and subsequently a target advising australia about changing eligibility or the recommendation about who who should take astra zeneca. So i think we will focusing on the population as a whole because that's who the advice was about But did include the fact that certain people were much more likely But still very very unlikely to develop clots from an astrazeneca vaccine see. I think that's the way to report these things. You can't shy away from from risks and bad news. That's not our job but a job is always to report with with context. Do you think more broadly dennis. I mean as you would know from a from a career in journalism. I mean journalists and not very good at maths We're not very good at science. And we're in uncharted territory in the context of a pandemic. i mean I guess there's a distinction right between the sort of fairly innocent mistakes but but potentially nevertheless quite dangerous mistakes that the profession has been making and just flat out era unscientific opinion. Yes well you're quite right. I mean must've couldn't compete accounts. Not about the thing. Is that for the most part. We have learnt. We have listened to the epidemiologists. The clever people who can do these maths and we have reported. I think on the hull those people accurately and we have been hanging out. I mean brit sutton. the chief. Health officer in victoria has become a cult. Figure you can buy british patient. And that's because he is admired for his scientific knowledge and communication abilities. Hello i'm victoria's chief health officer bread som- so we have. I think began to take a bit of pride in being able to report the sort of stop properly But yes of course. Mistakes will happen. Always do But what we we need to focus on other things. We always need to focus on getting the facts right being fair and presentation which means among other things not beating things up or panicking people balanced which follows the white of evidence as the abc's dettori policy site focusing on informing the public rather boosting ratings. I mean if we do those things then we're doing the job. Well now an as as we sort of set at the start. Hesitancy is a problem You can cast blame widely or narrowly In in terms of why that is the case government media social media which we haven't even discussed but if we acknowledged that it's a problem and that some of those things are. All of them are to blame. How do we go about fixing in the media. Is it the media's role to try to fix that no the media's role is to do the media's job the media's job is to report and the report with us qualities that i've just been just being listing if we do that then we don't have to turn out selves into public health announces All promoters of particular products or promote a particular political points of view job is to report and report accurately and fairly and with balance. And if we do that we're doing our job than other people do their job and whether in the public mind let us hold them to account. When i don't do it well do. That is the signal for today. if you'd like to get in touch our email is signal at abc dot net. Today you will be back here tomorrow. Catch them by by. You've been listening to an abc podcast. Discover more great. Abc podcasts live radio and exclusives on the abc listen app.
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I'm bree and I'm Nicole and this is the bell is podcast and we are so happy. The holidays are over because the holidays this kick that is right and that means it's time for opening up so let's pop that bottle all right right you guys do today. We're opening up with some Vegan buzzes. Nagorny are so obsessed with them. It's from this little place here in Phoenix called delight and we can't get enough of him no. We can't because you know what I can't do alcohol not with this flu and okay you guys. We're going to get to my engagement but I have to. I talk about how sick I've been with the flu. Today's my first day out of bed in eight days eight days I have never been so sick in my entire life. I got diagnosed with influenza B.. And one thing I just WanNa tell everyone when you fill flu like symptoms James. I'm someone who powers through because I just think my body's run down with flu like symptoms because I feel like flu like symptoms can be like a head cold right and that's very similar alert. I should have known that when I got a really deep like silent cough. I should've went into the doctor but it took me two days of just trying to power through. ooh I'll be fine. Go to bed early and then day three into it. I couldn't even move and I knew something was wrong it. It felt like a head cold but even worse my body was aching. I was burning up. My cough was really deep and then I go get checked by the doctor. I'm positive housing for influence a B.. Which of course is better than having a bite it? My doctor was like you're three days late. He's like this is so bad already. And then yesterday Eh. Backup the doctor. Because my body started to reject the antibiotic you start throwing always vomiting all day and so now. I'm onto antibiotics one to help. Keep the antibiotic down. I'm just a mess. I have never in my life have been this sick but can I say how much pain your skin looks. Great well so sickness wears you. Well well thank you but I have one who your nurse was. I mean you had to nurses actioner will three technically clinically side bream Birdie for the I was a five day is days sir. Birdie would leave water at the door because we had to put up a gate and I got Brienne Bertie mask because I was so contagious. that the doctor like anyone who has near me how to be where mask or I had to wear a mask and I couldn't leave the bed I mean I couldn't You have no energy when you have the flu right. You're so fatigued but this thing is I know what you're all thinking like doesn't Nikki have a house next door to. Yes but my sister didn't want to be alone so she was my guest room. I know you know what's going to happen. So we kinda made her fortin there. Yes and then artem came in town down and then he took over and I finally went home and he's been taking care of me ever since it's hard 'cause we can't sleep in the same room you know. Yeah well and I started to get a head cold so I was freaking out a little bit but only two days and then knocked right out. Birdie never got sick but you know I mean this fluids going around the country. I started to to do a lot of research. This is a really bad flu. That's going around so I suggest to everyone wash your hands. Be careful who you're in contact contact with if you see someone coughing sneezing avoid them to say to mask. The Mask were already and I wore the mask all the time. You never got sick. I get why the people now do it in airports. I used to look at them like. Is this a little exaggerated. I'm GONNA probably from now on be that person in airports that whereas mask. Yeah because has it. There's a reason for it and after getting when I got and I just keep thinking was that when I was at the supermarket the night before Christmas Eve member who was filling. Meanwhile the artem and I had a call Christmas dinner I remember specifically a man that was coughing in the produce section. Like why are you coffee. And sneezy seen you all over the produce and when I started to read and do research on how contagious the flu is. It's like you have to be careful. All I want to say is as if anyone feels symptoms. I mean who cares if it's very minor you WanNa go get tested it. The test literally takes fifteen minutes to know if you're positive for influenza air be so good do it right because when you wait long it's dangerous. It's been a very dangerous. We I mean it can take painful week. It's already taken two thousand people's lives so far in the US pretty scary. It's scary so go get checked you guys but you know. It's funny because my sister and I during Christmas we I had a full house of all the Danielsson's where over and Cole had a bunch of people and we just. We hosted big Christmas dinner and we had so much fun in the Nicole on like okay. Okay the twenty. Six to New Year's we'RE GONNA get a lot of work done but also relaxed body days hike. Do all this fun stuff. And then we were so exhausted rested and then she got super sick and then I started feel sick. I mean she just finally got out of bed this morning but I cannot believe how like you try to think to yourself like Oh yeah. After after the holidays I'm just going to transition easy to being healthy and just kick ass but the holidays kick your ass and then I got super sick and here artem Adam and I were supposed to go to sedona to have a magical new year's Eve I really wanted to ring in two thousand twenty and a very spiritual way and we had all these Kamei's energy clearing setup and Shaman visit set up and I really wanted to go to the vortex artem and I we're GONNA and have the most magical days going into twenty twenty. We're having this dinner that the native Americans were performing for everyone for four hours with gorgeous music and I didn't get to do any of it journal and you because you couldn't cancel because it was so late so you lost all that money. I know which if anyone does get a chance. Go to SEDONA. They in Chapman resort. Yeah Oh my Gosh it looks match or go to a bears. It's where I got married and it's pretty awesome but you have to tell orange you in art and we're going to do from SEDONA. The biggest news of twenty twenty is so if you haven't seen my instagram and armony got engaged November when we were all in France yes I Willem it. It was very shocking. Because we've been together year but it was very beautiful and like our families were there and here. We're in France and this castle it's my birthday and artem proposed and you guys. Of course. Toto Bellas was filming. I think that's why I didn't see it coming because I was like. There's no way he he will do it. Why we're filming well? He did but his his engagement speech. Is that what you would call it I don't think it's a speech. The dirt away. He proposed the way he proposed. He was so nervous which made me so nervous all of a sudden when I could tell how nervous he was. I got really nervous and I in my head. I'm like Oh this isn't a birthday surprise anymore. This guy is about to propose to me and I just I don't WanNa give have like everything he said away but one thing he said how you opened it he goes. You know you've come into my life and you've turned it upside down and I remember going. Is that a good or a bad thing but like he was so nervous he just you know when your words just lose you. Oh totally but you know what I have to say artists. Tux White he set up. I can't wait for you is to see it and I have to say I'm super excited even though everything was really fast. I'm really excited. I'm definitely going to take my time. I'm getting married. That was the one they told artem is I was like I do not want to plan a wedding anytime soon. I really WANNA take our time being engaged and just soak it in. But I'm I'm I'm extremely extremely happy. You know the one thing that I love is like you just love happens. And there's no rules feel like everyone tries to have rules of like well. You have to be together this long to get engaged. Sounds like parents say that at all. No I think it's changed over the years but artem has taught me that love has no rules it really doesn't and it's so beautiful when it's like that when you just love yeah I couldn't every relationship you've you've been in this kind of been no rules. I think that's just kind of my life. Yeah I feel like there's just been a lot of it's I think for you because because your relationships are on television and through social media like there's a big presence and everyone's in your business because of media that you're always getting judged so I think that's why you fill those things but I really think people don't actually sit there and think like Oh this to faster that I mean I definitely clean. Daughter was too fast but hang spree. No I did. I did think it was too fast but also I. I'm not in your guys relationship so you know for me me. It's just someone who's outside of it like whoa because already engaged this crazy but I'm not in your relationship so right and I know it's taken us a while to post and I'm I'm sure people are like well you know because Nanna kind of setting you were saying earlier like when you get engaged. Why don't you exactly post you know? It's it's hard when you're in our situation because there's also other people that could have a say into your life when you're a reality star so we've kind of had to wait and and I have to say even when we posted the other day we didn't get permission. I finally was like I just want to say it say it. You know sick of hiding it and we're supposed to do a really cute cuting in sedona. We had this big plan we wanted to do but of course that got ruins. I'm like well I'm just GONNA poster post photos from France right. Well my thing is I find it funny because of social social media nowadays that everyone feels like they have to have a game plan of like saying it or dies social why we had a game plan though. No I know 'cause as a filming and everything but but it's weird because when I got engaged and it was for TV. I announced it right away. Yeah I wonder if people were upset I duNno. I know people were upset by it. Well and I got the one where you're trying to figure our lives out. I mean my first engagement it was live on TV. So yeah it's it happens but it's so weird in our world because I remember sitting and talking to Nanna about it. She was having such a hard time understanding why you have to wait for an announcement announcement. I'm like this is I guess just the life we chose when you live in the public. I want you to wait for a moment or make sure like I. I don't know it's It's difficult well. Let's get to what everyone wants to hear. What the ring are you so happy? You wear your ring now I am. I'm really happy to wear my neighboring It's been getting sized and also getting the setting fix I you know me. I'm a lover diamonds and artem picked out this gorgeous diamond. INSA Severi rare diamond and I really loved the shape. It's very classic is looking at it. I was like I think this could be set a little different and so oh the guy was like. Wow your girl has a really good ice. She's actually right about the setting just because I felt like it wasn't showcasing. This gorgeous diamond that he picked out and and I don't know does that. Sound high maintenance or weird. Oh you're going to be wearing it every day. You want exactly so it's getting right now. It's getting sized instead a little differently. Certainly you're nice. I get to actually pick it up. I think tomorrow Artemis But it's so beautiful you and I just love diamonds that are very timeless. Classic If you could imagine it on Grace Kelly's hand. I think that's just so beautiful and I can. I can imagine that so I'm so excited to wear it and I'll be definitely excited the day we start planning a wedding but I just can't do that right now. I know you hear you hear it with kids. Did you hear it with everything will. There's never a good time because even Nanna was like we'll do something very simple but I still want to have the wedding my dreams and I just I WANNA wait to I. Don't I want to be in a rush. So when do you think I don't know you know tell you the truth. I don't really sees getting married in two thousand twenty. Wow Yeah I you know maybe a courthouse house thing and then do something. I don't know losing a point. I mean this is the thing it's like. I wish. Carrie Bradshaw did have the big wedding like then and when she did the cute little courthouse in the diner. I was Kinda like bummed out. I still want to have that big wedding so I don't know and I'd be courteous to know what our listeners think is. Do I showcase that on TV again. I mean I never actually got married but sometimes I go oh back and forth. Are there things that I should keep private in my life and not fully share. I mean I love privacy but at the same time I think what's hard being a reality star and taking people. Aw on the last seven years of your life is this journey. Yeah and it's kind of like you don't give them the ending. I think everyone would hate that. I mean could you imagine watching a movie movie. And then there's no ending I mean and I felt that when the first time around people were very upset at me. Not just because of the the situation of my break-up but because I didn't give them their fairytale ending yeah they're on this journey of something. I wanted for five years. No six years first and then they didn't get that so well I do. Get your point Martin posed on TV. Then it can't be that private. Do you know what I mean like. He he did. What is there are there things in my life? I need to keep private. Do I need to make those decisions on my own. Yeah as I mean protect to myself and you know now my future family so because artem and I mean now we're going to be a family but I think a weddings different. Because you the thing you you have the videography you end up filming it anyways. You just got to film it to your liking. I have to say they were super respectful. When they filmed my wedding kept their distance they weren't invasive at all not with our guest now with me they didn't come down the Iowa me to have cameras really high up I couldn't even see Yeah so I felt like they weren't even there right. You know and I mean of course the dream would be to get married in Paris but one dream that I've always had to is that I want my now at my wedding so and there's no way you could travel to Europe so I think I definitely will keep it here. You don't travel to Europe. I I know it's difficult for and it's really important to me that she's there you know. Yeah I agree. There are so many decisions you go. Maybe that's what twenty twenty will be will be the year deciding reading what I WANNA do for my wedding. Yes even though I've always thought of fall wedding would be so my Gosh and those fall wedding dresses go. I kind of wanted to get married in the fall but Brian. I you know we picked after Russell Maniac has oh dr only but I always I was looking at these wedding dresses and I'd try to own the swamp but they're like this is for faller winner. Her and I felt like princess. Like I mean the lace coming down my arms the hi gorgeous neck with the beating the the way the backwards and I'm like I thought the fall fall in Napa Valley like Tahoe with me gorgeous or just an amazing fire. Leo's wine refers I. Yeah I do like an engagement party in Paris or something we'd use engagement party or Bachelorette engagement party. Oh you're the BACHELORETTE. We're not GONNA do that. I always thought New York City that energy and that would be really well. Should I tell everyone my big news. What's your big news? I got a puppy. Oh Yes oh my Gosh Brie with big old bug is like engaged again. I'm uh-huh Hasso Sana said I was good this year. I was on the Nice list so he brought me a little puppy. Her name is penelope. She's so cute. She's on my instagram instagram now. So you'll see her And I have to say I really felt it was time for Winston have a companion and And for all of us to and happened to be my cousin. One of her good friends FRENCHIES had babies. And so I was like you know what I think. This is a sign and Mike was there a little girl in the litter gavitt habit the runt actually a little girl and I'm like Josie was a runt and so there was win and so as when so penelope's joined her family and she's so so adorable isn't Unicorn the she she's sleeping on Nicole Richie. Actually she Her built reminds me so much a Wednesday so much but what she does is she has a lot of jozies personality guys. It's Rick Lisi pleased however one what Birdie keeps doing so you guys Birdie keeps trying to pack her suitcase because every day pretty wants to go to the moon to go get Josie. Because I told Birdie about doggy heaven and how high it is and she wasn't understanding the concept upped and she's very much like Brian you have to be literal with Birdie Saigo jozies up by the moon. That's where heaven is at and so every night and birdies the best spotting the moon. I mean it's not even sunset unbridgeable show tat and show always be like we're Joe Joe debs so every day. My daughter is trying to pack her bags to Goget Josie to bring her back home. I mean every day I feel like Bryce Jarrett each other with watery eyes. I know when I I I would just be insecure at Your House the few times I heard her say it I was like oh I know so. Be You know what that just shows. You like. Look at the love. It gives your little okay. And they don't forget she's two and a half and how much she talks about Josie. Because she's Josie. Since Day one her and Joseph were very close. I'm very happy for Penelope. Yeah he's a very very amazing edition so cute birdies trying to wrestle penelope but I think she'll start to lover here soon yes I love it and you know what I'm saying next week. Let's bring Armand and and hear from him about the engaged. Oh that's okay. Yeah okay well. Before we wrap up artem and I cooked all of Christmas dinner and I have never ever in my life cooked nine hours straight and I feel bad artem did two days straight. I did nine hours straight with him. Oh my gosh and who looked boozy at your Christmas dinner. We looked thanks. Everyone dressed up which made me feel very special. Can we just say real quick. How Amazing was my green bean casserole? You guys did it for the first time in. Everyone aided knocked it out of the park. I felt like it was the most talked about thing. It was the most talked about dish. Ray You guys. Here's had so much food I was like I wanted everything but I couldn't do it. I can ask. Do you run over consuming too so holidays yet. Kicked our ASS. Ask but that's okay because it's January and we're GonNa get our asses back in gear up so that's it for opening up up next on be kicking someone fast because now it's time for match above the week but first a quick break when you think of whiskey what comes to your mind. I'm sure could be at least a hundred different things. But I bet peanut butters and one of them but screwball. Whiskey is working to change that. screwball peanut butter. Whiskey is your average flavored liquor. It's savory and creamy with just a hint of sweetness without that lingering heavy finished you might expect. screwball group was designed to be a bar tenders best friend. You don't need a Chile you can drink it straight or in a shot and look. I know peanut butter. Whiskey sounds weird. 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Is there such a thing as too soon to get engaged so you would wanna debate this alright hater and for all the other haters out there which I know there are none. These are the rules of the debate. If you forgotten remember we we each have thirty seconds to make an opening statement for our side of the issue and then we have two minutes for final arguments. Freefrall all right. Who's going? I I feel like I should give you the honors all right Nicole. Are you ready. I'm ready go okay. First of all no. I don't think there's there's such such thing as too soon to get engaged because I feel like love is love and when you feel you should go with it. I feel like sometimes actually what can hurt relationships is when we have these rules of like. No I WANNA be with this person but I need to wait a few years or no. I said I never get married again so I'm not going to do it but then now I want to. Maybe it's too late if you feel it go with what's the most beauty about love is yes it can hurt can feel good. What time's up? I have so much more to say I feel hand. The flu is making me took slow. Okay you tell me when to go go okay. I do actually think you can get engaged too soon. I think sometimes that puppy love in the beginning that we can relationships kinda blinds us from like what you really need to know when it comes to marriage. You need to know people's most financial stuff how they're gonNA live with you. Know those little things that kind of bugging me like. Oh but maybe it's cute now turns into a big snowball effect and it will really bug you even marriage but sometimes thing about marriage is the partnership you gotTa Look at just the love because let me tell you something the minute you're Damn Cusco. Quick Ready Go. Okay so this is my thing is I feel like I feel like sometimes people get engaged so soon because they love that that fresh Levin eleven the beginning the stuff that makes you like getting and gives you the butterfly but sometimes you gotta get past that to really look at so and be like is this. This is my thing is someone can find that out about about someone within a month we know. What do you mean you when you are dating someone? It sounds like this person. Starting their life all of a sudden this person could be in there for fifteen fifteen years and already know how their life is. Yeah you could definitely feel or someone could be a friend and you already know who they are whether it's different for me. I honestly Philip. It's different the minute you move in Masan. I'm one of those people who do believe you should move in with before marriage because you can tell so much about a person. Hey move them with them. I also so phil like the way they live. And I've heard so many times people be like Gosh. They weren't like that in the beginning. It's like yeah exactly being engages ages signing a marriage license. It's already like walking down the aisle no that engaged time which is still something very special cities that shirty hermit no but proposing to someone means that you want it to perm and when someone proposes it's because they want to spend the rest of their life with someone and they should have that that moment when they feel it because they're guys I was with were so funding getting the beginning. If they would have proposed I probably would have said yes but the thing is it wasn't wasn't right like I just feel like like with Brian. Brian proposed. I've very much new at that time. Like he was the one I knew like his flaws. I would accept my flaws hit. Wouldn't it. It's too soon for you. That's that's my question. Like for art of life for instance. We were together for year. Plus I knew him for two years before that so for me. That's not too soon situation of your aiming towards me. I love artem. I'm happy you guys are engaged but I do think there's a thing too soon. Thank you sister for engine and on that note I could We could go on and on Shannon three minute. Actually I should to be a thirty minute. All right you guys. We're going to post a pull on our issues for you to vote. And we'll reveal the winner and next week's episode and now it's time for deer Belli's elyse welcome back tar segment dear Bellas. We Bella style advice to our listeners. Because who needs Abbey Abby when you have to Balas that's right and here's Today's question. Good Morning Bellas. My name is Diana and I'm from Elk Grove near Sacramento. I know in California and like free. I'm a mom. And they have three girls My husband and I we try really hard to raise them to be each other's best friends but ah seven ten and thirteen. It's not always easy so A question is how in the world did you guys get to this place where you guys are so close. ooh And so supportive. I just love your relationship and it's just he too many sisters that don't treat each other kindly and I don't want my girls to grow. Or what have I want them to have what you to share and I notice that you guys are just as close with jj so is there something that your mom did When you were younger or even now that creates that closeness thanks for the advice and looking forward to more Wednesdays in twenty twenty I all thank you Diana for all the compliments and what a great question? That is a great question by the way I give you a lot of Kudos for three girls seven ten thirteen. I mean wow that is amazing and also Diana later when you have your wine for happy hour drink. That's right. You said a mom because I'm a mom but you you know after tell you Nicole and I were big fighters grind up. We started wrestling at a very young age against each that we loved hanging out. Well we did. We were best friends ends but we did fight. I mean there was that time my mom was like how do I even get in the middle of this but I will say this I feel like Jj Nicole. And I have have all become super close. I think as we've been through a lot together but at the same time my grandfather kind of always reminded us how important family is and he constantly embedded that into like. We literally are so close to our cousin's Raleigh brothers and sisters but I felt like my grandfather just constantly was like you guys have no oh idea. Family will always be there in the end no matter what and grew up truly believing that Brian came into my family and he was mind blown when he saw JJ Nicole. When when I argue he was like you guys could really teach each other down mean and then two minutes later? You're okay and I feel like it's because we know at the end of the day we could take out injure and certain stuff on each other but we still love each other and have each other's back right. Well I think as well as we were raised with a lot of labs so if my brother and sister ever did anything kind to me especially my grandparents and my parents would be like okay. Now go give your sister brother Hug and a kiss or what I would see them more any of my cousins or my aunts and uncles. Go give them a hug and kiss when they would leave. Give them a hug and kiss and and I feel like when you do that at a young age. There's something thinking about that love. That's there and you're not afraid to show that affection and it was crazy to me as I started to get older more college when you meet people from different backgrounds. How many people people didn't do that with their brothers or sisters their cousin rape and I feel like you have to show the love from everywhere so you have to teach them in about you? Know Blood is thicker than water and families that and then you also need to have them embrace each other and feel that connection. Big huggers were big huggers. I mean you come to our house every time you leave it is as if you are going off to war. My sister got a Boob job at weirded me out a little bit hugging rafter. Because they're all being we smash into my chest I would. I'd like I don't know if you're hugs her that enjoyable anymore. Run over but you also have to give a compliment. What I thought my mom did so well on raising all of us? She let all of his kids be who we wanted to be as individuals and we all had to rejoice is that we did and sometimes I'll see families and I feel like 'cause they have three girls or three boys they want them all to dress like or be alike or go be involved in the same thing wing and sometimes I feel like that can bring on competition or little anger between the children and I think when you embrace who they all are individually it actually brings them together more. My mom definitely made it like Nicole's the stronger more athletic one shows maybe like more artsy earlier one she made. Jj The boar wild but funny one. She really embraced. Everyone's string and was very vocal. Go about it which made us all feel like we brought something to the family. You know and there's one thing I do at Birdie every night Brian I both and we always say who loves Zeo. We've taught her since she's been little. She goes through the whole family Hanako. Oh I mean Shogo Dodo. A uncle. J. J. Lo la baby a VG. I G G pop up like you guys. She goes through the whole family because Brian I tell her we want you to know every day who lets you and I really feel like it helps her. Don't you feel like Nicole. Makes her more and more loving realizes everyone is family and they love her so she wants to love them and I think that's what we have to do for kids heads. We just have to teach them and show them the love. I agree. Let them embrace it on their own. But we can't forget about the connection of human beings and that's giving hugs and kisses and really feeling that so encouraged that everyone has their children do that with each other and it's just the littlest thing saying thank you to sibling and giving them a big hug and kiss the goes so far when you start. That is such a young age. I agree so thank you Diana for your call. And we're looking forward to more Wednesdays two in twenty twenty that's right and if you want a a chance to hear from US anything from relationships to business life to mom life or whatever else you want advice on give us a call at eight three three q bellas and now. Now it's time for Bella brains but first a quick break this year make your mental health a priority because a healthy mind lead happier. You think about it this way you you wouldn't hesitate to go to the doctor for professional care if you had a broken arm or the dentists if you had a chip to your mental health deserves the same attention better help help. The world's largest counseling service will assess your needs and match you with your own counselor from their network of license. Accredited and board certified therapist with better help. You're not limited to the typical nine to five of traditional therapy. You can send your counselor message anytime you want. 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Breathe so who's going to win this round. Let's find out it's time for bell. Brains means Bella Bella brains okay. Who's leaving the room? I I guess this has been sick all week. I'll get up and go okay. Good thank you. You're ready. I'm ready all right for this week's Bella brains. I will be asking questions about soccer. Oh Gosh we all grew up playing this sport. Yeah Kohl's the Rock in the back. That's that's right dynamic midfielder so they should know little bit about soccer question. One what does U. S. W. N. T. Stand for oh my gosh. U. S. W. and T.. United Soccer Women's what is it U. S. W. N. T. National Team U S W The united the US United States us right U. S. W. United States Women's national team. That is correct. Yes took a minute but correct blaming the flu. You go the United States right all right. Congratulations on that. Yes thank you question to. Who is the all time time leader in scoring for the United States Women's national team? Mia Hamm no shoot. It's what's her name with the short hair dammit. I can't think of her name. I'm just going to say this one because we get three guests is right. Okay so Alex Morgan no okay. It's one more guess. I can't think of her name J. I will tell you that she is retired. Because there's a couple of girls are short hair. Yeah UH shoot. What's her name? She's married that author. Now she's the hot one. Whatever I'm just going to go with brandy chastain? I know it is Abby Wambach happy. That's always a long happy. She's married the author author. She yeah she actually passed me a him. Yeah all that for a very long time. And no one's close to them. Yeah I knew was abby. I just can't think of Abbey's his name one hundred and eighty three goals or something fifty-seven think. Wow Yeah Sarah Abbey but I love you. Think you're hot all right question. Russian three who scored conic penalty kick to win the World Cup and celebrated by taking her shirt off. Brandy chastain is correct. I remember shirt off. Course Love Brady chastain will know her husband for while was the head coach of Arizona State University and I was going to go play soccer for William. Oh that's awesome. Yes so two hundred. That's three three okay. Let's get Brenna ready. I'm ready okay so this week. The category is soccer soccer. I I feel like I should know all this you better. I mean as I explained you both grow playing it so the knowledge question one one. What does you as W. N. T. stand for U. S. W. N. T.? United States states women anti national. And Its tryout no you get three yeses said was try that again. Okay get a lot of them right. A lot of the words rate from low. Tell you know that doesn't count let's go. US Anti us. W Anti Brian Yorkey this one. Right United United States women national training for more and more. I know United States women national team have. You didn't get that one train training tryout well you made it sound more more complicated than I think in your head you minute. We're coming okay. Question Two who is the all time leader in scoring for the. US Women's national team. Mia Hamm No Alex. Morgan you know Brandy chastain had the same as birth to be fair. I knew this person I I couldn't figure out their name so I started to say names. But you literally didn't even think person Abby Back Oh Duh. uh-huh why like shoes on Time magazine and stuff. I mean hold. Soccer team was but always on her. I think you're thinking of the the ones play now. Now the one with the pink care about the same haircut doesn't play right now oh. SP's when we're there now ashes. Yeah award okay. I know one girl that probably GonNa play for like the. US moonstone honestly shoes a beast question. Three Yeah who scored iconic penalty kick to win the World Cup and celebrated by taking her shirt off brandy chastain. I hi now so now. Of course another time. This is how got settled last time so not I. Love tiebreakers agreement Green Tiebreaker K.. who was the youngest female player to represent the United States national team? Oh shoot my gosh I know this are you as an aggressor Mike Dank. WHO's the youngest female soccer player to represent the United States of America? Carla Overbeck Kidding she's the oldest sitting. Gosh this Alex Morgan. No risk can be saying names. We know I know it. Isn't that left defender. What's her name you know? Can I get a hint. Yeah maybe what's the first letter of the name Meeham. I all ring in cheat. How's IT Brig? Musil fifteen teen mayhem. I it was going to say no. Don't you lie I was and then I thought. Oh no because it's just WANNA go with like one of the greatest players of all time. I I know I didn't think this is the best those Nicole goes. Can we get a little hint. You know like the start of the first one and then just like this is rigged. I just find ways to cheat on you rigged capitalized off that she notes official Briana has more knowledge soccer and was the saucer plant night and and was not. Well that brings the current score to two zero brianna rigged. Well thank you. Jj for hosting another edition addition Abella brains and you guys. We will be back next week for another edition of ballot. Brains Bella Bella brains thank you. Jj for hosting Bella brains. Yes and now it's time for Bella Army Cuny As always tweet at Bella twins with the Hashtag Balas podcast and we might pick your question to answer on the show that is right in this week. We're answering a tweet from from at my kind of youth the question is if you could switch lives with someone else for one day who would it be. ooh ooh that's really good. I really liked that now. My next question for you would be pastor present but I guess we'll just pick whoever we want. Okay okay you go first. This is really hard because there's like so many people that I could go for Hugo I well goodness wait. I was just about to say so on but there's so many people that I could choose. I know see you know who I'm torn between two. I'm torn between like Oprah because I feel like it'd be really neat to be in her life one day like just the way. She inspires people the way she enjoys wine. She lives in Maui. You know she does really incredible things. But then I also feel like it'd be really cool to be a rock star for a day and be on stage and seeing and have that feeling that's a good deal so I'm torn right now. See I was torn between Marilyn Monroe or Queen Elizabeth the second Maryland. Imagine Agean just being a Dana life of Merriman row. I would be like that would be so interesting and then Queen Elizabeth just to have that feeling feeling of being royalty and knowing the whole country is like God save the Queen like to experience that and all that responsibility and have Winston I in Churchill come to my door and like talk to me about England type of stuff that would be insane. Talk be talking to Winston Churchill about World War Two stuff breath I couldn't even imagine I agree but then I'm kind of thinking maybe be Janice Joplin for day Woodstock and see. Yeah the hippies really did it see you like all the past stuff yeah. That kind of sounds really cool to me. Yeah I might go with that. Even though I'd be so drunk that I wouldn't remember. Wow okay. Well I'M GONNA go with Queen Elizabeth the second just to have talks with Winston Churchill and get to know information and also wear crown and have all this diamonds. That'd be really nice so you know me. Well what can we say. Oh well everyone tweet at Addis I wanNA know who would you want to switch. Lives away dates. Let's wait what you could do pastor present all right Bella. Army will that is it for this week's expel army. QNA thanks for tuning in. Today's podcast yes. Thank you Bella. Army and I'm engaged. Yeah Hey that's right and both for the winner of this week's match the week on instagram. Tweet US your questions for Bella. Army Cuna with the HASHTAG bells podcast and call eight three three q ballast. Ask US for on air advice in our segment dear Bellas and please show us some love by rating the show leaving a review and hitting subscribed special thanks vacation. Jj for being a great bell brains host and until next week remember to stay fearless and you always go remote if you drink along with this. See you next Wednesday and his birdie likes to say UH.
Why Can't Kids Vote?
"Hey It's Jed Kim host of million zillion a new podcast for kids and their families to. Money from marketplace and brains on we're helping dollars make more sense listening subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. This is why a podcast for curious kids I'm Jane Lindholm. On this show take questions from kids just like you about anything and it's our to try to find answers. And if there aren't answers to at least give you a better understanding and maybe encourage you to do your own research after all there are a lot of things that are still unknown or not very well understood about the world and you could be the person who helps the rest of US learn about them now or as you grow up. You maybe a kid but don't let that. Stop you from investigating all the things you're curious about and telling US grownups what you learn. In the United States where but why is based? We have a big election coming up election day. This year is officially on November third, but more Americans than usual are voting in advance this year sometimes in person at their town hall or city office, and sometimes by mailing in their ballot, a ballot is the piece of paper. We're adults markdown who they want to vote for people in lots of states are voting for their governors who helped run the states or their Congress people who work in Washington to help run the country. But the position that's getting the most attention is the election for who will be president of the United States for the next four years, and some of you have questions about that and about elections and voting and political parties. So we're going to tackle all of them today. Why don't kids get a vote for president? Why haven't we had girl presidents before far Democrats, Call Democrats and Republicans. Called Republicans, we've done other episodes about how the US form of government is set up, and we've done episodes about what a president is and does all day and why we have one in the United States we will put links to those episodes in our show notes and at our website. But why kids dot Org in case you want to go back and listen to those episodes specifically. But you've been sending US new questions. So today, we're going to talk more about the presidency elections and why it's so important to vote and why you can't do that if you're a kid. The US has a form of government called representative democracy in a representative democracy. All of the eligible voters get to pick a few people who run the government and those people make our laws or change our laws they are supposed to represent or speak for us. Let's talk a little bit about the presidential election which you may have been hearing about in the news whether you live in the United States or not. Our current President Donald Trump has been in office for almost four years, which is what we call one term. He wants to have a second term, and if he wins, that would be his last a president can only be elected to two terms. But he's being challenged by a lot of people the most prominent challenger. The most popular one is a man named Joe. Biden. Joe Biden used to be the vice president when Barack Obama was the president and Biden is hoping that he will win the presidency this year. There are a lot of ways. This year's election looks very different from normal years as most of you probably know pretty well already. The Global Corona virus pandemic means that many of the candidates running for president and for other government offices like senators are governors can't get out and shake hands and kiss babies and try to convince people to vote for them in the same way when they do all that and try to convince people that's called campaigning. So the campaigning looks pretty different this year. Also many states are encouraging voters to fill in their ballots and vote by mail instead of going to a specific place to what's called cast their vote to vote in person on election day. Lots. Of States have made changes to their rules to make sure more people can vote early this year. And there's another thing I want to mention before I introduce our guest and get to your questions. We are putting this episode out on Friday October ninth as it's going out the President Donald Trump has cove in nineteen, the corona virus he announced that he tested positive for Covid nineteen a week earlier, and he was in the hospital for a few days. He says he's feeling much better now but we still don't really know how this might impact his health in the long term. So there are a lot of unknowns and if things are confusing after election day in November, we'll do another episode to help you understand what's happening. So feel free to send us your questions if anything is confusing to you. But for now, let's get to the questions you've already sent. We invited someone to join us who has practiced talking to young people about voting and elections. Hi, I'm Aaron Geiger Smith I'M A reporter and the author of thank you for voting and the thank you for voting young readers edition. We gave Aaron a really big broad question to tackle I a question from Milo and ten years old I live in Los Angeles California and my question is how Does. The government work how does the government work? We could go really detailed and in-depth on various kinds of governments, and we could look at how our country's government works here in the United States where you and I are or how some state governments work or even how our town government works but broadly speaking to to Milo's question and maybe what some other people are thinking, how has government supposed to work? What is government supposed to be doing for us? It is a big question Milo but it's a really good one government is supposed to help our lives all the things that are necessary for us as people to learn and grow and just be in the world. Make those things go a little smoother and be safe so Government involves our police and firefighters and making that run. Its government is setting up all the systems in a way that makes the world functions and then adapting to make sure those systems keep working how they're supposed to, and if something changes, the government should be there to make things better in a way. It's sort of like with the corona virus in what we're going through our state and local and national governments, what they sometimes did and always should have done is adapted and think through what the problems are to try to make citizens be able to continue their lives safely. So it's about keeping a safe and then planning ahead I sometimes also think about it as a way to make decisions. More streamlined or or easier to make so that you know if we think about like, let's say there's a whole bunch of US living in a place if we are each making individual decisions, that's fine. But there's some things that we need to have a group decision on and in our country, the United States. If we're all trying to make those decisions, we're just never going to make a decision. So we have a government that is supposed to make decisions for us with our input so that all of those things that need to be done as a group can be done more efficiently and effectively does that make sense to you? Yes. I think that's exactly right and the government is, of course. People the government is part of the people who have been designated to make decisions and keep things running largely. So everyone can continue with their their lives of going to school and going to work and all of those things in the United States, and in a lot of other countries there are things called political parties and they're not teams, but you could kind of think of them like a team. So you're on part of a team and your team has certain values and ideas and thoughts about how they want the government to run and so when you're part of that party and run for office. It's supposed to help other people know kind of what you stand for. But one of the problems that people have right now is that these teams instead of working together once they're in the government seemed like they're always fighting, and if you're always fighting in a place where you're supposed to work together to make things happen, then it's really hard to make anything happen, and then all of us who voted for these people are sort of left feeling like these teams aren't working for us. I think that's really true and it's a big problem right now because political parties in our ideal world. Set up certain standards or ideals that they would like to follow. But to make laws some of those people have to agree. So we think of political parties as being one side or the other, and then they kind of find a middle ground that will work for the most people. And it is just true that right now those parties seem to be extremely divided and really far apart on where they want the world to go. But wait a minute those political parties you may have heard about the two biggest political parties or groups that control most of the government Republicans and Democrats. Donald Trump. Our current president is a Republican Joe Biden the main challenger is a Democrat. So how did those two groups get those names? Hi, my name is Madeleine I'm nine years old I live in Silver Spring Maryland, and my question is why Democrats Call Democrats and Republicans Republicans. You know they got their names are really longtime ago. So whether their names even really still represent what it was at the time is kind of up in the. Air But to start with the idea of just two parties in general, even before Republicans and Democrats were the main parties we've for a long time been a two party, a main two party system. So even though we always have a ton of smaller parties, the way our system is set up lends itself to to parties partially because of the way we. Elect presidents. Are Two. Parties for a very long time that have been the main ones are the Republican Party of the Democratic Party as Madeleine says, and they got their names from the words Democrat which means a type of democratic which means a type of. Government. That is elected by the people and for the Republicans from the Republic which really has a pretty similar definition in reality people like to fight over it a lot. But they have pretty similar definitions the Republican. Party. The name I came in the seventeen ninety s from supporters of Thomas Jefferson, and they wanted a style of government that was a democracy but definitely democracy. But where the government had limited power the federal government, the US government wasn't going to be in charge of everything. And then that party split. And became something called the Democratic Republicans. That's confusing. Super Confusing I still get confused. That democratic Republican Party became what is known as the Democratic Party. So they lost one half and that was in about the eighteen forties and then not long after that with a nod to Jefferson another political party formed and it was the Republican Party and since I think the date is eighteen fifty two. The first or second place finisher in all but one presidential race since then has been a member of the Republican or Democratic Party. So they really are extremely dominant and though third party candidates can. Get some races and kind of. Create some upsets every once in a while we are pretty much. A Nation of the Democratic and the Republican Party and have been for a very, very long time. Mentioned elections and I want to point our listeners to another episode that we've done all about elections and how government works and how elections work, and we did a whole episode called who invented the President as well where we talked about what a president is and does but just briefly, maybe you can help us understand just how do elections work? So elections work. Basically by. A process that decides which candidates are going to be on the ballot that's a very important step, and there's all different ways that it might be decided which candidates are issues but once you get to that there's a ballot. Printed or on a computer screen and what's a ballot? A ballot just has everybody's names, right? That's a great question. Yeah. A ballot is either the piece of paper or on your screen that says all of the candidates who are running which offices they're running for, and then can also include questions like. Should we have a new highway through this city? So it's not always people but people are issues, and once it's decided who's going to be on the ballot the voters have to meet all sorts of important deadlines to register to vote. They have to find out where they're gonNA vote called their polling places but once. Those things are settled. Figured out voters show up or vote by mail and fill out who they want to win, and then those votes are counted. And that's basically how it is. Now, the truth is it takes many many many people to run an election. It involves a lot of really complicated rules, but even in huge national elections like the presidential election that we're about to have. Their elections are done on a local level. So it someone very near you. That's going to do all of that country and calculating for your area, and then those results go to the state and if necessary to you know the nation, did you catch that no matter what election you're voting in it's your friends and neighbors in your own community who are running it. I live in a really small town in Vermont. So I actually know most of the people who helped make sure the election runs smoothly. Now, if you live in a bigger town or a city, you might not recognize the faces of the people helping out. Those are sometimes called poll workers, but it's still a small group of dedicated people in your own community helping to make sure everyone can vote and have a say in who leads our states and our nation. There are all kinds of rules in place that these volunteers and town employees have to follow and they take it very seriously. When the United States became its own country, the only people who were allowed to go vote or adult white men who were wealthy enough to own their own property. Over the course of our history changes have been made to the laws to make sure more people can vote and have say. People who are not white people are not men and people who don't have a lot of money are all allowed to vote But it is still sometimes a challenge to vote even if you're allowed to. So the United States still has a ways to go to make sure everyone has the opportunity to have a say in who runs their government. Even though lots more people can vote than in the seventeen hundreds. There's one group of American citizens who still can't. Children in Italy and I'm nine years old. I live in Raleigh. North Carolina in my question is why don't kids get a vote for president? That's a great question Natalie because kids have a lot of good ideas but as far as voting I'll start with the legal part of things, which is that the age the lowest age. That can vote in the United States is eighteen, and that is actually in the constitution. When the country I started and all the way until nineteen seventy-one, which may sound like a really long time ago but your parents or at least your grandparents were probably alive in Nineteen seventy-one. So from beginning of the country to nineteen seventy-one, you actually had to be twenty one to vote. But because People who are eighteen could join the arm forces and perhaps even go to war if that was necessary. Because of that reason. Because eighteen year olds were at that point most of them were finishing high school and that meant that they actually had. Higher education level than many of the people much older in the country because our education system had gotten so much better. So it was sort of the idea that eighteen year olds are educated enough to vote. And so we should let them and and that was a constitutional amendment that is the fastest ever amendment that went from idea to ratification or or at least from the law to ratification. Ratification is word for approved changes to the constitution have a special process and when a change is approved, it's called ratification. Okay, so kids can't vote. But how do you make sure that your needs and what you want to happen in this country can still be counted I asked Erin to give us some advice kids making sure that they're grownups whether it's their parents or aunts and uncles or cousins anyone you know that's over eighteen encouraging them to vote and asking them to help you understand it better is a great idea. You can think what issues are important to you. It May. It might be that you care a lot about animals and want to protect the forest that they live in or it might be that You know you need to think about elections to is very local. If you think your school needs better playground equipment that is something that the school board might be involved in. So if you think about what issues you care about and then ask a grownup to help you learn about it. That's really great. You could also, if you have grownups who are already politically involved, you can join them in. Helping other people to vote in might be writing postcards or in most elections you go knock door to door. That's something that's not happening as much this time. But there are so many ways for young people. Degan involve also say there's a kind of quirky piece of. Of Rule and law in some states so like Vermont where but why is made we had a young person who was thirteen run for governor a few years ago and he made quite a big splash. A lot of people got to hear him debate because even though he wasn't old enough to vote, there was no rule in this state that set the age limit for when somebody could run for governor. So you know there are ways to get your voice heard even if you can't yet vote. Yeah. And if you want to set your sights a little below governor, always participating in your school government is a great way to understand the whole process better and to get better at working with others. So just because you can't vote for president doesn't mean your voice can't be heard and you can have an influence on your family members who are voting I read a news story recently about a man who says he decided to change who he was voting for after a conversation with his grandchildren. More of your election questions as we continue. This is why a podcast for curious kids from Vermont public radio I'm the host Jane Lindholm. Today were answering questions about voting and elections as the US inches closer to a once every four years presidential election. The two main candidates this time around President Donald Trump and former vice president joe. Biden are both men which doesn't sit well with all of you. Hi, my name is Aspen I live in Redwood City California and I'm eight years old and my question is why haven't we had girl presidents before? Hello. My name is Kinley and I'm six and a half years old. From their math Florida. and. My question is why has no girl ever been president? Here's what our guest for this episode Aaron Geiger Smith has to say about that I want to know the same thing and the answer is there's no good reason there is there are plenty of reasons why we haven't had one. There's no good reason why we haven't had one but thinking about representation and starting with voting. So in the United States, women can vote nationwide and all the states until nineteen twenty. So this year we're celebrating the hundredth anniversary of women's right to vote being acknowledged we have to. It's always important to point out that even though women had the right to vote, there were many women of color who Couldn't exercise their right who are kept from voting all the way until nineteen, sixty five and some would state still today especially people of color and others in some communities really struggle to exercise their right to vote. Yes. We still have many many barriers devoting in this country that that make it harder for people to vote and most of those barriers effect black and Brown people more than others. So that's always a very important thing to keep in mind but so women. Couldn't have didn't have the right to vote for a very long time and when don't have the right to vote it's Kinda hard to get elected to many offices the truth there was a woman who ran for president even before he was, Victoria would hold even before she had the right to vote which is pretty impressive Vermont governor candidate She didn't get very far but the point is to note that she was she she did in fact, give it a try. But most of the time our presidents come from other places in the government. So they've been a senator or they've been in the House of Representatives or maybe they've been a mayor and we just for a long time had had enough women in those offices. Who's who could keep rising in the ranks to President? The good news is, is that right now there are more women in Congress that than any other time? So I think that. That will change soon, more women are running for office and that's really important to even if you run don't win. Running helps contribute to the idea that women can and should be an office. Of course in this election, we do have a woman who is a vice presidential candidate, and that's the third time that has happened and so if Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were to win, we would have a woman in the vice presidency, which is. As close as it gets to being president and then who knows so. The point is that sometimes. People have had a hard time wrapping their. Minds around that, a woman should be president but. That was just a problem in the thinking and not a problem with women being able to do the job job many other. Big Strong powerful nations have women leaders silly. United States is just kind of behind in that. Aaron. Mentioned Kamala Harris Kamala Harris is what's called the running mate of the Democrat Joe Biden a running mate is kind of like a partner they get elected together as a team. The running mate of Donald Trump is the current vice president Mike Pence. Kamla Harris is just the third woman to be on a major party's ticket. As a vice presidential candidate. We've never had a woman vice president or a woman president, and Kamala Harris is also the first African American vice presidential candidate and the first Indian American vice presidential candidate that's ever been the nominee for the Democrats or Republicans. So if she and Joe Biden win it will be a historic moment. Now there are a lot of things we could talk about when it comes to elections but let's leave it there for now, and again, if you have other questions about this election that you want us to talk about after November third don't hesitate to have your adult help you record them and send them our way. You can do it with a free voice, APP that comes on an adult mobile phone just include your first name, your town, and what your question is as well as how old you are, and then have your adult, send it to questions at. But why kids dot Org. Before we let Aaron go I asked her to talk a little bit about one other thing because things are a little different this year with the coronavirus pandemic and some people are worried that something could go wrong with the election or that some of the votes won't get counted. Now people who work to make sure elections are fair. Say That's not a real concern. There's no evidence that the election won't be fair. But a lot of people are talking about it. So I asked Erin to talk about it a little bit too if grownups. Do what they need to do to vote and follow all the rules their vote will count, and that's something that people are really worried about this time but. I think it's just important to realize that our our systems are set up to handle these big elections and even though things may be done a little differently this time and there might be some hiccups. That's really true. There might be some hiccups. All of the election officials are working really hard to make sure everything goes smoothly and. You know sometimes there's been a lot of talk this time about people messing with the results or stealing ballots are all those sorts of things and I think it's really important to understand that that is really really rare. It might happen that someone. messes with a few ballots in a way that they shouldn't. But they get caught usually and they get big big big trouble. It's something you don't the kind of trouble you really don't want to be in and. It just doesn't have a huge impact on the election results because we have so many people voting and a lot of people are worried in particular this year because so many more people are voting by mail instead of going to a place where they vote in person. But as you said Erin, there's very little evidence of what we call widespread or lots of problems with voting even when people are voting by mail and mailing it to their town clerk or to their city officials. Yes, that's exactly right and I think. I'm actually not worried about voter fraud with vote by mail at all I'm really not I am worried about people making sure they follow the directions specifically that's really important and that we give our election workers enough time to count everything. So there are big issues to think about but widespread voter fraud just isn't one of them, and if you fill out your the GROWNUPS, fill out their vote by mail ballots correctly make sure gets in on time and the earlier you do it sometimes, they even let you fix a mistake which is a big thing. People don't know about, but it's very important. So. It's kind of an interesting and exciting thing that we're having this big vote by mail movement and my hope is actually in. Elections. The next one and the next one the next one we can get better and better at it as many states who already use vote by mail have. So it's a real opportunity actually for by the time that kids today or voting will have the system all figured out even better than it is. Now that was Aaron Geiger Smith She's the author of thank you for voting, which is also available in a young readers edition. If you WANNA learn more about politics and elections again, checkout to other. But why episodes who invented the President and who makes the laws? But why is produced by melody? Bo. Debt and me Jane Lindholm at Vermont Public. Radio our theme music is by Luke Reynolds. We'll be back in two weeks with an all new episode until then stay curious.