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Access, Travel Rules Influence Missionary Vaccine Policies

AP News Radio

00:39 sec | 10 months ago

Access, Travel Rules Influence Missionary Vaccine Policies

"Access and travel rules are influencing missionary vaccine policies covered nineteen vaccine refusal rates may be higher among white evangelical Christians but the international mission board which deploys thousands of missionaries is not hesitant about the shot the I. N. bi is the global missionary agency of the Southern Baptist Convention it announced this month that it's requiring vaccinations for missionaries they're sending into the field amid the pandemic other faith groups are approaching the issue in a variety of ways the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints is giving unvaccinated missionaries assignments in their home countries the United Methodist Church strongly encourages missionaries to get vaccinated but does not require it I'm Walter Ratliff

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Proud Boys Leader Charged for Burning Banner When BLM Rioters Burned Blocks

Mark Levin

01:33 min | 1 year ago

Proud Boys Leader Charged for Burning Banner When BLM Rioters Burned Blocks

"From AOL. The leader of the far right Proud Boys pleaded guilty money to burning a black lives matter. Banner. Taken from a historic black church during a demonstration in December. In league Theriot 37 in Miami. I understand He's a Cuban Americano, Mr Producer. Hardly white. I allowed to say that I think I will. It was arrested on January three in Washington on a warrant stemming from a December 12 incident. The proud boys and other groups marched in a raucous pro trump rally through downtown Washington. The banner was stolen from the Asbury United Methodist Church, one of the oldest black churches in the area. On top of the destruction of property charge. He also pleaded guilty to attempting to possess a high capacity gun magazine which is illegal in the city. Alright, let's stop. He burned a black lives matter. Flag, Mr Producer. Have you ever heard of anybody being charged with burning a flag? Private property or no private property. Did we see entire blocks burned during the riots of this past summer? People had their hats pulled off their heads. People have their cars damaged people, all kinds of stuff. Does it not strike anybody as weird? And beyond weird. That this guy is charged with burning a black lives matter. Banner.

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"united methodist" Discussed on Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX

Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX

04:17 min | 1 year ago

"united methodist" Discussed on Christ United Methodist Church - Plano, TX

"Sometimes it's one to turn to at all times to be sure but never more so men in bad times in challenging times in times of unexpected change and stress and has paul makes clear throughout the entire letter to the philippians his point is that both our faith in christ and the fellowship of the church. It's both give us the resilience to bounce back for whatever life throws at us and god knows thrown lot at us over the past sixteen months. Think back to all that we've endured as a community of faith. We have uplifted one another. We've gotten through this thing together. Christ has seen us through it as christ always does. Because that's kind of christ's thing and today especially we celebrate. How through your membership. Douse the membership bows that we all take when we joined a congregation to support and uphold this foundation of the united methodist church with our prayers are presents gifts our service and our witness. Those vows have enabled these young people to grow in their music to grow in their faith to grow in their fellowship which has been. That's never a small thing. It's a specially not a small over the past year morning right early on our behalf on your behalf. They're leaving on tour to bear witness to the love of christ which is the love that they have learned here at christ. United and. Brian mentioned some of the details that they're going to be singing edit nursing home in little rock. They're gonna be singing. A senior living center and memphis for folks who themselves are trying to bounce back from extended isolation during the pandemic. they're going to be singing at the union mission. Women shelter and memphis for women in their children who have survived domestic abuse. Who absolutely need the resilience. That christ offers us. That'd be singing the national anthem at a minor league baseball game at the home of the memphis redbirds. I'm assuming we're gonna do that for the rough riders at some point to okay all right rangers even better. Yes that is even better. Yes love that and they're going to be participating in choral clinic at the university of memphis and all along the way for the first time in two years. They're going to be taking their faith on the road sharing the love of christ through their passion for music. And they're able to do that. Paul would say because of their faith in christ and their friendships with each other. And i would add because of the love and support of their church family all the which has given them the resilience to do what they love and to bless others in the doing man i was going to say there's not a whole lot that i believe more than that's true more than the fact truth. Theological truth that. Paul tells us that we can do all things through him. Who strengthens us. And as paul makes clear that strength is best lived out in the context of a community of believers. I i don't know about you..

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Ceremony formalizes tribal relationship with Kennewick

Native America Calling

02:04 min | 1 year ago

Ceremony formalizes tribal relationship with Kennewick

"The nez perce tribe reclaimed ownership of property from the united methodist church and a small ceremony thursday as emily swing reports. It's been more than one hundred and forty years since the tribe held rights to that land. Roughly forty people gathered for a small land. Transfer ceremony in will allow oregon nez perce tribal chairman shannon wheeler ended the deed to the property. The ceremony was broadcast live on facebook. This land and our people being forced off of this land and the tears of sorrow as we left today if you shed a tear. That's okay because they're tears of joy now and so are are tears of joy in our happiness today will also be felt by them are as esters in passed in eighteen. Fifty five nez perce chief. Joseph signed a treaty with the us government that granted millions of acres of land to the tribe but twenty years. Later the us army drove the nez perce from that same land. The nez perce are also known as the nemi. Pu people reverend karen hernandez is the district superintendent of the united methodist church in eastern idaho and southern oregon. She handed over keys to a now closed. Methodist church that sits on. What's now nez perce. Land and willa proved people in a gracious spirit of friendship are willing to meet us here as we take this small step toward justice. It blesses us knowing that land that methodists made good use of here but it was never rightfully ours. It is now most rightfully yours. This is the second land transfer from the united methodist church. Three years ago the tribe took ownership of one and a half acres along the lower river. Where the church held retreats for national native news. I'm emily swing

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Congressional visit to Atlanta spa shooting sites decries anti-Asian hate

AJC Briefing

02:40 min | 1 year ago

Congressional visit to Atlanta spa shooting sites decries anti-Asian hate

"Outdoor vigil at mceachern memorial united methodist church in powder springs celebrated. The lives of dana johnson. Patrick he and cynthia lindsay key died on christmas day. Johnson and lindsay died within hours of each other on january twenty first. The ninety minute ceremony was filled with tears. Laughs and calls for those gathered to live with joy and to take the pandemic seriously. Cobb education leaders have been criticized for the districts response during various moments of the pandemic including some. Who didn't wear face masks during a january school board meeting. I want people to know this isn't a joke. And it's affecting people lindsay's daughter lindsay cows said about the pandemic during an interview after the vigil. Meanwhile members of the congressional asian pacific american caucus traveled to metro atlanta on sunday to visit the sambre sites of this month's deadly spas shootings into call attention to hate crime laws and growing anti asian hate in america the visiting lawmakers who were joined by members of georgia's congressional delegation and state representatives followed the deadly path from march sixteenth. That claimed eight lives with six of them. Being women of asian descent. The trip paid respects to the victims of the tragedy. She ouseba tan. Tao fong delina. Leon and paul. Andre michaels were shot and killed at a spa in cherokee county. Young a au soon chung park soon. Chalk him and young grant were shot. Later at to atlanta's pause the first stop for the chartered. Bus tour was young's asian massage in acworth and finally three dozen people were displaced sunday morning. When a fire swept through lawrenceville apartment complex authorities said the blaze ripped through all three floors and the attic of a building at the anzio apartment. Homes on sweetwater road. Gwinnett fire department. Spokesman lieutenant justin wilson said investigators were sent to the complex about six thirty. Am after nine one. One caller reported smoke coming from their neighbor's apartment on building eighteen. When crews arrived at the scene they saw smoke and flames in the center of the building. One of the occupants of the building told investigators he was asleep when the fire started but was startled awake by his smoke alarm after he noticed the fire on the back side of the building. He escaped his apartment through the front door. That's all for today. Check back each weekday morning for more from the atlanta journal constitution or go to ajc dot com. Have a great day spoken layer.

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Proud Boys leader ordered to stay away from Washington, D.C. after arrest

WTOP 24 Hour News

01:23 min | 1 year ago

Proud Boys leader ordered to stay away from Washington, D.C. after arrest

"Police arresting five people today in U. S Park police, arresting another on various charges from illegal handgun and rifle possession, ammunition and assault on an officer. Well, one of the groups has become a central focus for possible vile. Once the proud boys. The far right extremists have shown up twice before since Election day, patrolling District streets looking for anti trump demonstrators, but their leader was arrested this week trying to get into the sea and reggae. Torrio is released from jail after he was charged. And while Magistrate Judge did not necessarily say Terrio could not attend the rally's tomorrow, Torrio is been from D. C for several months. When Torrio appeared before D C. Superior Court Magistrate Judge Rene Raymond this afternoon, she paused proceedings ordering him Place a face mask over his nose. TAR EOS lawyer requested his release. The government requested a stay away order. Both were granted and he was freed on personal reconnaissance. Tardio was arrested Monday by DC police while riding in the back seat of a Honda. Traveling in the third Street tunnel. He faces a charge of misdemeanor destruction of property. Timeto, a black lives matter. Banner Thorn from the Asbury United Methodist Church and set on fire, plus a charge for felony possession of a high capacity gun machine. He's not allowed back to the city until his next court dates on the morning of June 8th Matt SMALL w. T O P NEWS, Maryland Governor Larry Hogan made some

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D.C prepares for Trump supporters protests against Congress certifying Biden victory

WTOP 24 Hour News

00:46 sec | 1 year ago

D.C prepares for Trump supporters protests against Congress certifying Biden victory

"The city is getting ready for die hard supporters of President Trump to protest the count of electoral college votes on Wednesday. DC Mayor Muriel Bowser says officials are working together to protect residents and businesses and to keep the protests peaceful. She also wants people to stay out of downtown streets on Tuesday and Wednesday. Supporters of President Donald Trump are coming to D. C to rally in protest. As Congress votes to affirm President elect Joe Biden's victory. Police are already posting signs downtown, reminding everyone that no fireworks are permitted as we're United Methodist Church told wt O p that they have asked for more help from D C police during the protests. The church is one of two historically black churches that have black lives matter. Banners burned by members of the proud boys last month. Valerie Bonked w T. O P NEWS.

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3 questions to ask yourself about everything you do

TED Talks Daily

05:01 min | 1 year ago

3 questions to ask yourself about everything you do

"When i was in high school at the age of seventeen i graduated from high school in. Decatur georgia as valedictorian of my high school. Proud of myself. I was from a low income community. I'd grown up in mississippi. We'd moved from mississippi to georgia so my parents could pursue their degrees as united methodist ministers. We were poor but they didn't think we were poor enough so they were going for permanent poverty. And so while they studied at emory i studied at avondale and i became valedictorian. Well one of the joys of being valedictorian in the state of georgia is that you get invited to meet the governor of georgia. I was mildly interested in meeting him. It was kind of cool. I was more intrigued by the fact that he lived in a mansion. Because i watched a lot of general hospital in dynasty as a child. And so i got up that morning. Ready to go to visit the governor. My mom and my dad are also invited. Got up and we went outside but we didn't get in our car in the south. A car is a necessary thing. We don't have a lot of public transit. There aren't a lot of options. But if you're lucky enough to live in a community where you don't have a car. The only option is public transit. And that's what we had to take and so we got on the bus and we took the bus from decatur. All the way to buckhead where. The governor's mansion sat on this really beautiful acreage of land. These long black gates that ran the length of the property. We get to the governor's mansion. We pulled a lever that lets them know. This is our stop. We get off the bus. My mom my dad. And i walk across the street and we walk up the driveway because their cars coming up cars bringing students from all across the state of georgia. And so we're walking along the side and as we walk single file along the side of my mom and dad's sandwiching to make sure i don't get hit. By one of the cars bringing the other valedictorians. We approached the guard gate and we get to the guard gate. Guard comes out and he looks at me and he looks at my parents and he says you don't belong here. This is a private event. My dad says no. This is my daughter. Stacy she's one of the valedictorians but the guard doesn't look the checklist that's in his hands. He doesn't ask my mom for the invitation. That's at the bottom of her very voluminous purse instead. He looks over our shoulder at the bus because in his mind the buses telling him a story about who should be there and the fact that we were too poor to have our own car. That was a story. He told himself and he may have seen something in my skin. Color may have seen something in my attire. I don't know what went through his mind but his conclusion was to look at me again and with the look of disdain. So i told you this is a private event. You don't belong here now. My parents were studying to become united methodist ministers but they were not pastors yet and so they proceeded to engage this gentleman a very robust discussion of his decision making skills. My father may have mentioned that he was going to spend eternity in a very fiery place. If he didn't find my name on that checklist and indeed. The man checks the checklist eventually and he found my name and he led us inside. But i don't remember meeting the governor of georgia. I don't recall meeting my fellow valedictorians from one hundred and eighty school districts. The only clear memory i have of that day was a man standing in front of the most powerful place in georgia. Looking at me. And telling me i don't belong and so i decided twenty some odd years later to be the person who got to open the gates. Unfortunately you may have read. The rest of the story didn't quite work out that way and now i'm tasked with figuring out how do i move forward because you see i didn't want just open the gates for young black women who had been underestimated and told they don't belong. I wanted to open those gates for latinas for asian americans. I wanted to open those gates for the undocumented and documented. I wanted to open those gates as an ally of lgbtq community. I wanted to open those gates for the families that have to call themselves the victims of gun violence. I wanted to open those gates wide for everyone in georgia because our state and this is our nation and we all belong here. But what i recognize. The first try wasn't enough and my question became. How do i move forward. How do i get beyond the bitterness and the sadness and the lethargy and watching an inordinate amount of television as eat ice cream. What do i do next. And i'm going to do what i've always done. I'm going to move forward because going backwards is an option and standing still is not enough.

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DC police investigate after BLM sign torn, banner torched at historic Black churches after pro-Trump rallies

AP 24 Hour News

00:45 sec | 1 year ago

DC police investigate after BLM sign torn, banner torched at historic Black churches after pro-Trump rallies

"Vandals hit black churches during some pro trump rallies in Washington over the weekend. Vandals tore down the Black lives matter Banner and assigned from two historic black churches in downtown Washington and set the banner of blazes. Nighttime clashes over the weekend between pro Donald Trump supporters and counter demonstrators erupted into violence and arrests. Police say they were investigating the incidents at the Asper United Methodist Church and Metropolitan A. M E Church as potential hate crimes. Video posted on Twitter showed a group of men appearing to take down a be a limb. Sign it one church. Another video showed people pouring an accelerant on a BLM banner and setting it ablaze in the street. The incidents followed weekend rallies in support of President Donald Trump, which led to dozens of arrests, several stabbings and injuries to police officers.

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Washington DC police seeking church vandals after weekend clashes

AP 24 Hour News

00:45 sec | 1 year ago

Washington DC police seeking church vandals after weekend clashes

"Vandals hit black churches during some pro trump rallies in Washington over the weekend. Vandals tore down the Black lives matter Banner and assigned from two historic black churches in downtown Washington and set the banner of blazes. Nighttime clashes over the weekend between pro Donald Trump supporters and counter demonstrators erupted into violence and arrests. Police say they were investigating the incidents at the Asper United Methodist Church and Metropolitan A. M E Church as potential hate crimes. Video posted on Twitter showed a group of men appearing to take down a be a limb sign it one church. Another video showed people pouring an accelerant on the BLM banner and setting it ablaze in the street. The incidents followed weekend rallies in support of President Donald Trump, which led to dozens of arrests, several stabbings and injuries to police officers.

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Violence Erupts Between Trump Supporters, Counter Protesters

Morning Edition

02:15 min | 1 year ago

Violence Erupts Between Trump Supporters, Counter Protesters

"In the nation's capital are accusing the city of failing to protect black residents after a weekend of violence during a pro Trump rally. The president's supporters gathered in Washington, D. C on Saturday that repeated baseless claims that the election was quote stolen and some of them vandalize churches and attacked counter demonstrators. Hannah Shuster from our member station W A. M U has the story. Thousands of mostly mass place trump supporters from all over the country March through downtown D. C that included members of the extremist group, the proud boys. They gathered at Washington landmarks like the Washington Monument and the Supreme Court and listen to speeches from figures like conspiracy theorists Alex Jones and former national security adviser Michael Flynn. And the president's supporters erupted and cheers as he flew overhead on Marine One. Police tried to keep these crowds separate from other DC protesters, some who have been holding racial justice demonstrations for months. But as the night went on, violence broke out and dozens of people were arrested, including a 29 year old, who allegedly stabbed four people. This weekend was the second time since the election that Trump supporters rallied in DC leading to violence, although the crowd was smaller than when they gathered in mid November. At this weekend's protest Trump supporters toward down black lives matter Science from two historic black churches. Ah, video circulating online shows the crowd cheering as a banner from Asbury United Methodist Church, Burns, the church's pastor, said in a statement. The scene reminded her of a cross burning Easy. Police say they're investigating the incident as a possible hate crime in Mayor Muriel Bowser condemned it. The local activists say the police have failed to stop white supremacist violence. Here's Anthony Lorenzo Green with the D. C black lives matter Chapter. Let's be clear. Mayor in our police department allowed white supremacists to tear it out and destroyed cracking. The black church burning on the ground. He spoke from what's now called Black Lives matter, Plaza after Mayor Bowser's office had those words painted on the street in June, but local activists say her words don't mean much to them without action. For

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Washington DC police investigating church property destruction as hate crimes

WTOP 24 Hour News

01:05 min | 1 year ago

Washington DC police investigating church property destruction as hate crimes

"Officer, are recovering after a violent weekend in the district. Dozens were arrested after supporters of President Trump and counter protesters clashed Saturday night. D C. Police are now investigating the destruction of local church signs as possible hate crimes. We have team coverage now, beginning with w. T. O P S Valerie Bonk. A series of videos posted on Twitter shares a group identified as Proud Boys tearing down and burning black lives matter. Banners from local churches Asbury United Methodist Church at the corner of Haven't think a streets Northwest was one of the churches. They said in a statement that they want this to be a wake up call for all to be more vigilant and committed to anti racism. Metropolitan A M E Church on M Street said they had a sign destroyed in a similar manner. D. C. Police told wt O P that they're currently investigating these incidents as possible hate crimes. During the weekend protest. Four people, including one police officer, were stabbed and are listed in non life threatening condition. Police arrested 33 people for various offenses, including assault on a police officer riding possession of a prohibited weapon and crossing a police line. Valerie Bonked w T o p News

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Vandals hit Black churches during weekend pro-Trump rallies

AP News Radio

00:50 sec | 1 year ago

Vandals hit Black churches during weekend pro-Trump rallies

"Police in the district of Columbia say they're investigating two incidents and historic black churches in downtown Washington as potential hate crimes a pro trump rally in Washington DC on Saturday devolved into violence and arrests with night time clashes between trump supporters and counter demonstrators several people were stabbed in dozens arrested vandals tore down black lives matter banners and signs from two historic black churches footage of the incident showed white men wearing ballistic vests cheering as they sprayed accelerate on a banner that had been torn from the front of the Asbury United Methodist Church pastor released a statement saying the incident was reminiscent of cross burnings and that it was painful to see the name of the church going up in flames DC police say they're seeking more information mayor Muriel Bowser decried the ACCC well organizer's with black lives matter DC criticized the mayor for allowing the attacks to happen Jennifer king Washington

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Black Lives Matter signs burned at Washington, D.C. churches; police investigate as possible hate crimes

The Boxer Show

00:36 sec | 1 year ago

Black Lives Matter signs burned at Washington, D.C. churches; police investigate as possible hate crimes

"Police investigating a possible hate crime after two black lives matters. Signs were burned on Saturday. Anthony Green, a BLM supporters says leaders in the nation's capital or the ones to blame Black Last matter, D C announces the failure. Both the mayor and her police department to stop the racist attacks by the proud boys and other white supremacist against black people, black churches and others who stand against racism. The signs belong to the answer. Very United Methodist Church and officials from another nearby church, so they were victimized by vandalism as well. It all happened during the Million Maga march when they proud boys also set upon the district,

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Washington DC Black Lives Matter organizer blames Mayor Bowser, police for allowing Saturday’s protest to turn violent

WTOP 24 Hour News

01:13 min | 1 year ago

Washington DC Black Lives Matter organizer blames Mayor Bowser, police for allowing Saturday’s protest to turn violent

"Mayor Muriel Bowser is condemning the destruction of black lives matter signs posted on downtown churches. The signs were destroyed during yesterday's pro Trump election protests. Police are investigating a series of videos posted on Twitter shares a group identified as Proud Boys tearing down and burning black lives matter. Banners from local churches Asbury United Methodist Church at the corner of 11th and K Streets north West was one of the churches. They said in a statement that they want this to be a wake up call for all to be more vigilant and committed to anti racism. Metropolitan A M E Church on M Street said they had a sign destroyed in a similar manner. DC police told wt O P that they're currently investigating these incidents as possible. Hate crimes. I woke up heartbroken meanie tailor a co organizer with Black lives matter, D C says that she believes that the area should be a safe place for them to gather. We feel the black lives matter Clouds. There should be a safe space for D. C and we should be able to get They're to demonstrate a commitment to racial racial justice. During the weekend protest. Four people, including one police officer, were stabbed and are listed in non life threatening condition. Police arrested 33 people for various offenses, including assault on a police officer riding possession of a prohibited weapon and crossing a police line.

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Vandals hit Black churches during weekend pro-Trump rallies in Washington DC

WTOP 24 Hour News

01:14 min | 1 year ago

Vandals hit Black churches during weekend pro-Trump rallies in Washington DC

"Begin with possible hate crimes stemming from those pro trump rallies in D C on Saturday has to do with church signs that were destroyed. At least two churches in D. C. Had signs destroyed during during the the pro pro Trump Trump Million Million Maga Maga march march this this weekend weekend in in a a series series of of videos videos posted posted on on Twitter. Twitter. Group Group identified identified as as Proud Proud Boys Boys can can be be seen seen tearing tearing down, down, waving waving and and burning burning black black lives lives matter banners that were hanging at local churches DC police told wt O. P that they're currently investigating these incidents as possible hate crimes. Nini Taylor, co organizer with black lives matter, D C churches were black. Last medicines were taken down and burn, and it's heartbreak him as very United Methodist Church at the corner of 11th and K Streets. Northwest was one of the churches. They said in a statement that the act was reminiscent of cross burner. Things. Metropolitan Amy Church on M Street said they had a sign destroyed in a similar manner. Taylor says the area should be a place where people can protest without violence. We feel the black lives matter plans there should be a safe space for DC During the weekend protests. Four people, including one police officer, were stabbed and are listed in non life threatening condition. Police arrested 33 people for various offenses, including assault on a police officer. Rioting, possession of a prohibited weapon and crossing a police line. Valerie Bonked w T O P News

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Arson Investigators Looking Into Fire That Destroyed Collin County Church

Eric Harley and Gary McNamara

00:30 sec | 1 year ago

Arson Investigators Looking Into Fire That Destroyed Collin County Church

"And federal arson Investigators are looking into the case of a church that burned to the ground in Collin County early Friday morning. The fire occurred it Anna United Methodist Church at around one o'clock Friday morning. Multiple fire crews from Melissa McKinney, Westminster, Western and Blue Ridge, healthy in a Fire department put the flames out. There were no injuries reported, but the fire department said the church suffered significant loss. The Collin County Arson Task Force, the Texas State Fire Marshal's office and the A. T F for investigating the cause of the fire.

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More than 96 million Americans have voted with one day to go until Election Day

WTOP 24 Hour News

01:32 min | 1 year ago

More than 96 million Americans have voted with one day to go until Election Day

"Of Americans have already voted. Millions are are going going to to the the polls polls today today to to vote vote in in that that person. person. We We begin begin our our team team coverage coverage in in Virginia. Virginia. That's That's where where polls polls open open at at six six o'clock o'clock this this morning. morning. They're They're going going to to stay stay open open until until seven seven tonight. tonight. Heavily Heavily GOP's GOP's Neal Neal Augenstein Augenstein is in Prince William County. Voting began here at six o'clock at suddenly, United Methodist Church. If you're voting in Prince William County somethings to know this year, there's a drop off box in the parking lot. If you asked for and received a mail in ballot, but didn't send it back. You can line up 6 ft apart and vote inside as usual, And this year there's curbside voting You park in the area designated for curbside. A poll worker will bring a ballot out to you to fill out and you could watch the worker scan your vote into a machine that's brought out here into the parking lot. And Prince William. Counting the Lord Constant W T o P knows w t O P is John Doman isn't Maryland this morning where the polls are opening soon, Voters can start cranking Laver's and marking ballots. It's 7 A.m. in Maryland, on top of voting for president and members of Congress, Maryland voters are being asked about changes to the state budget process in the legalization of sports betting. Each county has some referendum questions to the polls close at eight tonight and just be aware some of the normal pre things aren't going to be used this year because of Corona virus. The full list of polling places in Maryland can be found at w t o p dot com In Maryland, you can register and then vote today as well. John Dome and W T O P News.

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Georgia church splits from United Methodists over gay rights

Sports Talk with Jason and Ed

00:20 sec | 1 year ago

Georgia church splits from United Methodists over gay rights

"Says it's splitting from the United Methodist Church. Members of Asbury Memorial Church in Savannah supported leaving the denomination after a conference earlier this year in which the Methodist Church rejected LGBTQ, you inclusive practices, including same sex marriages. Congregation's pastor says the church is now officially independent.

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"united methodist" Discussed on Discover Lafayette

Discover Lafayette

13:46 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on Discover Lafayette

"The first service on June Fifth Nineteen fifty-five had sixty five adults and children in attendance very soon thereafter the seventy five member congregation. That point decided to build a church with forty seven thousand dollars borrowed and ten thousand dollars from the one thousand club. Groundbreaking was held on August fourteenth and on December eleventh the same year nineteen fifty five. They held services in the new building. And I don't think the congregations ever look back so I wanted to share this moment of Discovery Lafayette's passed so. Let's get back to you. I want to hear some more about what's going on in the Methodist Church. Some people that listened to this podcast probably keep up with national and international news about the latest developments with the United Methodist Church. And I think this may there's going to be a vote on whether churches want to be traditional Or Open for inclusion describing this right. That's okay so the United Methodist Church is a is a global domination Not just limited with the United States but to really sprawls the whole whole world and One of the things that That's been an issue that Churches are not just United Methodist Churches. But all over the world had been grappling with is about how to include lgbtq plus folks and and so Like many churches the United Methodist Church has wrestled with that And like many churches. There have been great differences of opinion on that and so in. May the United Methodist Church meets for. Its every four years. We meet as a global denomination Representatives from each of the areas of the United Methodist Church to vote on different matters and one of the votes is on whether will allow for a significant number of people who wished to to break off from the United Methodist Church. Denomination informed their own denomination Because over the years The the Turk in the United States has become more and more open to full inclusion of lgbtq folks and allow merits allow for allow clergy perform same gender marriages. And and. So that's caused a great deal of Of Anxiety among a lot of folks who for whom that's not a good choice So there have been a There've been a number of people who said you know we? We would rather have our own more traditional denomination And kind of break away from the United Methodist Church itself. And so that's what that vote in May is all about on whether we'll As a denomination will allow for that right now. A United Methodist Church. Just can't stop. Being the United Methodist Church is part of our denominational agreement and to follow the rules. And all the rules and you have to You have to stay United Methodist but But we're going to vote on whether to allow Churches to break away and to form perhaps a new denomination that is more traditionalist in its nature and perhaps will retain some of those older Rules that prohibit any kind of same gender marriages so even within our community. Let's say the Katy on a district could do various. Churches do their thing that they should become traditional. They can't It's a it's a Kinda complicated Process What would probably happen? is that This there are several proposals. That are before the This meeting that will be held at this This year will be held in Minneapolis. Minnesota But there several proposals for how that can happen in one of the one of the proposals is that that searches Who WANT TO Want to break away and join the more traditional nomination would be able to do so so if that passes then some churches would be able to do that if they feel strongly about that The United Methodist Church That would remain. Would Hopefully still continue to be searched it really embraces a lot of different viewpoints One of the hallmarks of methodism Especially in the United Methodist denomination has been. It's a big. It's been a big tent. It's been It's been a wonderful Group of People. Who are maybe don't always believe the same things about every particular social issue and to some extent we've liked that we've liked it that we could be a church where very different people could worship together and seat to follow the love of Christ With one another even Sharing differences of opinion So Some folks may be aren't as happy about that and would prefer to be an denomination where where some of those Hot Button social issues or sort of decided for them or one one particular way but the United Methodist Church will It's at least my hope. that It will continue to be a place that that gathers people have a lot of different perspectives Who can find commonality in the grace and the love of Jesus Christ rather than feeling like they have to split off and just be with people who think the same way changes tough. You know it is. It is to me when I look at the declining numbers over the years not just attendance at Church but civic engagement and different things. There's more and more of a disconnect and having a church family you know for things way beyond marriages and oh absolutely enrolls is is really a way to stay connected to feel part of a bigger family and one of the things I think so. Wonderful blessing about Asbury Particularly is that as really does draw a lot of different people who have you know from different backgrounds and different In different places different parts of the city different economic abilities in different Social places and also a lot of lgbtq folks I love coming as part of the ministries and find that it's enriching place to be right and to worship God with one another and and not to feel like you have to fight the same old battles that you would anywhere else and so so it's been a wonderful place that's gathered people of great variety in one fellowship. And that's a special thing so I think in a way we model Asbury I hope anyway. We model at Asbury. What it means for people who may not necessarily see eye to eye on everything but who can be in one family together. 'cause really that's what we're trying to be. Even a large church like Asbury is to be a family together and know that. Not Everybody at the Thanksgiving table always sees to. They never did but at the end of the day. We're we're GONNA love one another and we're going to support one another and we're gonNA have each other's backs and and the same goes for our LGBTQ members and their families who are find. Asbury to be a place to be at home. Well speaking of families we joined the Church back in two thousand two. We switched because we had moved to town. You know this was. We were country people and we moved to town. But the youth group was such an appealing the children's ministries and in the youth group was such an important aspect of what we wanted for our own. Two daughters you've got four children and they are very involved in the choir and everything but you WanNa touch maybe on our our youth group maybe in particular. I know they trip coming up to Atlanta this summer. So the youth in the children's ministries continue. They have been for years. Been the just the premier ministries of Asbury that have gathered Gathered people and help people belong and help people get connected to the love of Christ. Some really special ways and the group does that as well. The youth group is a very diverse group of people and diverse group of kids who Who simply come together. One to have a great time and they do but to really put their faith into action and so one of the things they do every year that you just mentioned is year they go and do a big mission trip and that mission trip usually consists as it does this year of serving particularly serving the poor in some place of special needs so this year they're going to Atlanta to serve in inner city Atlanta in in ministries and with nonprofit organizations all over the city simply to help people in need so not only is it Is it a great group of about eighty people who are going to go on this trip and just serve in Atlanta but it's also hopefully teaching these kids what it means to live a life of service and love for people and to really put their faith into action? It's always a special thing and the kids come back with great stories having a really grown in their faith a lot. I know I'm not gonNA name names but some kids have probably been tell you have to do this? You know maybe some we know. And they've ended up going on the mission trip. And just the bonding lifelong. My older daughter and Kelly to my youngest. I remember Taylor you know. She bonded so closely with her youth group when she started I think it was starting in ninth grade. When they took the the first trip she going on and they're still best friends. Cassie that we had on the podcast. That's now in you know she's out of New York. Cassie doyle probably know the doyle's big time now screenwriter but they became best friends through the youth group. And there's so many wonderful ties that we have friends from church so not only do they bond but this that's an experience that people care into the rest of their lives Those kinds of experiences of of fellowship in Bonding and community and the fellowship Experienced in an atmosphere of serving people it really creates lasting memories that really that really are formative for lifetime well speaking of Lasting Memories. I want to segue into this I had to use your my memory. I told you that I wanted you to speak about some of the anecdotes that you will start off your sermons with and for people. That don't know John Cannon each sermon I have to tell you I just enjoy each one. They stand on their own but one week in particular you were talking about Kevin Baugh or bow that has his own micro nation the Republic of Malaysia Malaysia and he actually lives in Nevada but he has his own militia zone space station. Space Program used. He's got his own postal service and he's self sufficient right. He's a dictator or benevolent dictator. Netherland dictator yeah. But would you kind of where? Where do you get your ideas for your stories? And for people that don't know about this. You can google micro nations or Mo L. A. Ssi Creek Story. I first of all. I think I've found that the I enjoy telling stories and I think I found that people enjoy hearing sermons that are essentially a story and so I try to always begin or at least somewhere in the in. The sermon is some story. What was his currency that he used that was. Remember cookie dough ally of Milosevic which was a freezer. We all we all like that kind of cockney. That's great I wouldn't maybe that's the solution. Our economic right. Yeah cookie dough I would. I think I would eat all mine though. I always try to tell a story and I think people remember stories. I am a collector stories in the old school collector stories. I have a Manila folder. And when I find when I come across his story Follow a few things on twitter. Where you know new sites on twitter and in fund Little little those little odd stories that pop up every now and then and and what I do is I sit in the morning. Coming in reading the news or coming across stories Email myself the story I get to the office and a printed out and put it in a folder and And then as I'm thinking about a sermon as I'm thinking about a particular scripture that I'm preaching on I'll flip through that folder and see what you know. See what comes up in? The folder has stories that go back. You know that I collected maybe a few years ago and Timeless time hopefully. They're a little humorous. Because I think it helps to to touch on a little humor in a story kind of helps us relax and helps us Open up our heart to something but ultimately the stories are meant to to to sort of convey lesson and I hope. I hope it's a little like what Jesus did. Jesus rarely just came out and said here's what I'm trying to teach. He told stories and I think it was the case that sometimes people remembered the stories more than the teaching but the the stories kind of carry the teaching and I think that For me telling a story is a way of saying Saying here's a message in here and the message is Is something that is going to relate to this particular passage of scripture and hopefully it will be a message that you're remember as you go through your next week and through your life something that really touches and sometimes people will say to me. Remember the store you tell him not certain. I remember exactly what you said about well. It's probably OK that you remember the story and that you think I hope so and I think ultimately I'm not standing up there trying to tell people now believe this and here's the message and and take that home. I really hope I'm trying to help. People think and help people really pray about About what's going on in their life and in their spirit where they might bring the the love of Christ to bear in some way and ultimately stories. Carry that message better than than some kind of die tactic too you. Can you make that argument for dive? Yeah so I think so. And and you know Steven to circle back to the lawyer thing. I think of also realized now what I didn't realize as a young lawyer is that probably the best lawyers are storytellers..

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"united methodist" Discussed on Discover Lafayette

Discover Lafayette

01:37 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on Discover Lafayette

"This is John Swift and you're listening to discover. Lafayette a podcast dedicated to the people and rich culture of Lafayette the gateway to South Louisiana tape in the offices of Raider a hands on it service provider that integrates all of your needs for advanced technical support effective communication options in cybersecurity raiders motto. Is You just want it to work? We understand please. Visit Raiders Solutions Dot Com for more information. I'd like to thank Iberia. Bank our premier sponsor. They support our community in so many ways in their dynamic team is committed to serving the banking needs of clients in this region and throughout the southeastern United States. Iberia Bank offers the resources of a national bank with the personal touch of community bank. Please visit Iberia Bank Dot Com for more information the generosity of Lafayette General Health. Also makes this podcast possible and we thank them for. Being a premier sponsor as Acadian is largest nonprofit regional health system. Lafayette General Health is committed to restoring maintaining improving health in the communities. It serves for more information visit. Lafayette General Dot Com Reverend John. Cannon Senior Pastor of Asbury United Methodist Church is our guest today a native of Shreveport John Graduated from the University of Arkansas and Lsu law school while working as an assistant district attorney in east Baton Rouge parish..

"united methodist" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

09:01 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on The Takeaway

"That's going to be formed here in the united states most of the annual conferences quite likely will not have a vote like that they will remain united methodist that means that if an individual church likes what their annual conference does with their traditionalist and their annual conference decides to go that way or they want to be part of the united methodist church and their annual conference is gonna stay part of it they're good they never have to take a vote and one of the goals of the group that came up with this plan was to avoid avoid having votes at the local church level they didn't want every church in the country to be voting whether to stay part of the church or not that being said som- tom are going to say they don't like what their annual conference is doing and they're going to vote on their own breakaway what does this mean for petitioners who go to church regularly louis who aren't involved in the bigger decision making here i think everyone who has been a longtime active parishioner in the united methodist church has been aware aware of this coming split for quite a while it's been discussed for years to the the church just might not be able to stick together over this issue and most have strong opinions there are people across the country who have wanted their church to be performing gay marriage and welcoming coming gay clergy who are eager to get this done with and to change the way things are done in the methodist church there are others who have been increasingly uncomfortable after bowl being part of a church where more and more people don't share what they see as their biblical views of marriage and they're eager for this path that lets them break take away and let them be part of a denomination that does not believe that homosexuality is acceptable we've also talked to reverend berlin in the earlier segment geman about the international influence here is it that he mentioned that there are some international sections of the church that are more conservative than here in the united united states will the split become more complicated when it comes to what international branches decide they want to do i think what the united methodist church in africa is is going to do is one of the biggest questions about this split because as you said the african church leaders are far more conservative on this issue by and large they absolutely do not believe that the bible condone homosexuality that being said you can't just assume oh they're all going to go with the traditional traditional denomination in that case they like being united methodist they like having methodist hospitals they like having methodist charities and there is a lot a lot of sentiment in the US united methodist church that says we want to keep those african churches and we want to be as flexible as we can so that they can keep doing things their way as they believe fits their religious views and still be part of the united methodist church so which way the african church goes news is a huge open question here julie there's also more broadly across the united states there's been a decline in those identify hi is christian in the united states that numbers fallen by twelve percent over the last decade we also know that members of the LGBTQ community are are also less likely to be involved in more traditional religions does that play a role in perhaps the church's decision here to split to make sure that it is being more inclusive just to increase the number of parishioners and the people who do identify as christian well all protestant churches especially mainline protestant churches are certainly concerned about losing membership and that is one item him on the table here but i believe that most of the reasoning here has to do with what church leaders think is right not what they think is going to have the best marketing opportunities julie's julie's oscar is religion reporter at the washington post juliet thanks so much thank you i'm amy walter and i'm the host of politics with amy walter from the takeaway every week like we get behind the chaotic headlines from washington and tell you how policies in this country are actually changing you're going to see access to healthcare determined by where you live tribalism works there is a crisis of institutional decay money follows power join me each week on politics with amy walter from the takeaway welcome back to the takeaway and i want to ask you a personal question how often do you talk to your peers about your salary because for many people it's a really uncomfortable topic and understandably in this country talking about money he can be even more difficult than talking about politics or religion and yet talking about how much we make can sometimes help us understand what fair compensation looks like at work so we asked our listeners if you open up about your numbers and some of you told us no way i'm barbara i live in san jose caulking salary is stepping stepping blindfolded into a minefield you will be sorry you will be shocked and disappointed that he make less than your friends so you may think or not as smart march talented hard-working educated as you are or your friends will be envious angry disgruntled for all of the above reasons as as well as labeling you a snob where braggart hi this is sharon from portland oregon are you talking about my salary expecting certain specific situations nations i always got the message growing up to ask people about their finances with impolite but even without that and there is about what i make my name is michael ed lin from malaise by e i do not talk about how much miami put my friends i like to fly under the radar and i don't want people asking for money loaned money to friends before against against the vice of family and friends and it hasn't gone well although i desire financial security an abundance i do not want to be seen for this qualities how the air from fort lauderdale i don't ever ever talk about salary with my friends i feel like income is a very personal thing has the potential to create conflict animosity or competition thin among friends not mentioned it could lead someone feeling like a failure if their salary isn't on par with their friends but other listeners told us that that salary transparency is a good thing hey does elect without of butter arkansas i yeah i absolutely talk about my salary with my friends my co workers is anybody because i believe that everyone should when i did it in the work place pretty much only brought about positive changes the previous employer had tried to prohibit us to talk about pay in the workplace but i pointed out that best illegal in arkansas you you know i just thought about more transparency some that i mean they were not happy upper management was unhappy the owners weren't happy absolutely not but that's one of the first i think that we can do as women is start talking about what our nell coexisting pay them or you in our female hi my name is cecelia shy from bridgeport pennsylvania on the outskirts of philadelphia i do talk about my salary with my friends i would say we swapped our salary info freely it really helps me assess my budgeting habit my funding and compare my sour experiments against my peers this is edwin from plano texas i do share my salary with my friends that makes may feel privileged valerie that i have and i really hope that encouraged them to demand grazes and organiz and their work place so they can attain the same thing that i've attended many of you who told us you did talk to colleagues and friends about your salaries were women and openness around finance has historically been the norm for women in this country but that hat maybe changing in the shift is subject of a new piece in the new york times called i'll share my salary information if you share yours from writer and editor jessica bennett it i remember the first time i ever talked openly about my salary yet was really scary and i was scared that i was making too little and then we'd have to go in and ask for more which was nerve wracking but then i was also scared me i was making too much didn't deserve to be making that much and then there was the concern that will what if my friends that i was telling were offended ended by how much i was making so there's a lot of sensitivities around it it was interesting in talking to different women for this piece the younger regeneration particular gen z. those who are just entering the workforce i think they've kind of been reared on this language vernacular around empowerment and around transparency and so they seem to be the most comfortable talking about this even in their first jobs jessica spoke with financial experts.

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"united methodist" Discussed on The Takeaway

The Takeaway

09:07 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on The Takeaway

"The united methodist church is preparing to split over marriage equality where people know that they're not just welcomed with their affirmed protocol this point if it's a doctor how to get to that place i'm tansy nevada and today on the takeaway for january fifteenth global reckoning within the methodist church over LGBTQ hugh rights also on the show some advocates are pushing for more open conversations about salaries in the hopes of closing the gender pay gap it's okay to want money on your money is power and a lot of ways and women don't have enough of it and so i do think we need to be more open about our desires and it being okay to ask for more and to want more plus we hear about the romance writers of america having to cancel the annual rita awards due to controversy over racism and homophobia i made is there such the thing is an anti reputation i think you just coined that term but yes go forward romance had this problem all along right let's get going we start at church coach one of the biggest christian denominations in the united states and in the world is on the brink of historic change the united methodist church which has more than twelve point five million members worldwide is likely to formally split later this year over questions of LGBTQ accu- acceptance and marriage equality in may the church will be voting at their general conference on whether to split off the quote traditionalist wing of the church which has pushed for methodist not not to recognize marriage equality or allow LGBTQ people to be ordained debate over these issues goes back decades and for the past year discord within the church has grown here's a clip from an emergency general conference that was held in february of two thousand nineteen there are thousands of us in your local churches careers committed to a traditional definition of marriage one man and one woman i urge you brothers and sisters to vote no we can be search which brings jesus to people who are told can't be that's what i want our church to be and that's the methodist at this church and while the official split is still at least months away we wanted to check in on how methodists both in the US and abroad our understanding understanding this fracture within their church i'm tansy nevada and this is the takeaway joining me now is reverend i'm tom berlin lead pastor of the florist united methodist church in virginia reverend berlin is involved in the negotiations for the potential split reverend welcome to the takeaway away well thank you for having me so how far back does this debate go about the question of LGBTQ inclusivity in the methodist church united methodists have been debating this since nineteen seventies when in the nineteen seventy four the language was first added that excluded looted LGBTQ persons from marriage and then from ordination to to ministry even if they were qualified and so every four years we have this general conference which is our our global gathering of the church and this issue has been debated and every general conference since what happened in two thousand nineteen there was a shift in twenty nineteenth conference right there was a shift in twenty nineteen we had a special call general conference and the focus of that general conference was to simply focus on these issues the presenting issues of whether we would be inclusive related to LGBTQ marriage and same sex marriage and whether we would be inclusive of people related a to ordination there was a special commission that had been created a few years earlier that was to come up with a plan and that plan was focused on unity how do we keep the church together in light of these important differences of biblical interpretation in desire for different practices now remember the united methodist church is a global church so about half of us are here in the united states the other half are predominantly in africa but also in the philippines and in europe so when we gather there are lot of us in front one of the church related to these very important topics in these very important people and so in two thousand nineteen when that happened on the tensions after having debated did this discuss this for years and years the tensions were very high in that conference more traditionally united methodist in the united states persuaded in combined their votes with delegates from from africa and they pass what was called the traditional plan and it actually made it for oranmore punitive for clergy to perform same sex marriages and that created a real shift in the united methodist church suddenly people who were centrist said said you know what this is a really important issued us and they became is energized is people that are progressive and so together the group met after the general conference and again the twenty nineteen general conference was special session but in twenty twenty regular jenner conference so we were voting on delegates to go oh to twenty twenty meeting may of this year when those delegates were elected in the united states there was a increase in number of delegates who are centrists and progressives acids who believe that this is a important defining issue for the church and who would like to extend marriage rights to same sex persons in same sex couples and they would like to allow the ordination of qualified LGBTQ persons toward a ministry in the church is some outlets are describing this as a divorce a nasty divorce if you will but do you see this as a divorce or do you see this as a natural evolution of the the methodist church and because we know that there are other religions i've spoken to to LGBTQ clergy who are rabbis who are pre receiving i'm so is this a natural evolution given what was happening in the world today or is this really a divorce within the church where i think we were on on our way to a nasty divorce and the question is what will happen in may but the most recent development in this story is that a group of us came together to sixteen leaders and yeah methodist church bishop john yamba sousa bishop in sierra leone africa brought the group together and he invited those of us who are centrist the progressives and traditionalist to sit down and rather than having a nasty divorce over this at the two thousand twenty conference the sixteen of us entered into immediation this group includes bishops in the united states and across the global connection and in that mediation process we've proposed a plan that is called our protocol in the protocol was simply a document that allows us to agree on how a separation can take place in such a way that it's not a nasty nasty divorce we actually sat down and figured out you know what does everybody need to make this happen and that process completely changed the conversation and it changed the relationships and so this was who are in that feel that we're doing more the work of reconciliation now in less the work of divorce now at the end of this we're not all gonna be in the same church if the general conference delegates vote on this legislation related to this protocol people will be able to go their own separate ways but they won't have to do so in hardship or an anger they can do so in mutual respect in the nature of reconciling love reverend tom berlin is the lead pastor of the florist united methodist church virginia reverend thanks so much thank you so much for having me for more of the united methodist split i'm joined now by julie's ause moore religion reporter at the washington post julie welcome to the show thanks for having me so we just heard about how LGBT accuser driving the split in this church are there other issues shoes behind the scenes here well when you have a traditionalist denomination splitting away from mainline protestant church yes there are other issues that they feel differently early on but really LGBT issues have been the driving force here so what is the process if the church in and of itself decides to split what's the process for individual churches to decide where they want to go is it sort of a almost like state's rights if we look at if we compare it to how the united states operates are are there other decisions that will go into other reasons that might affect churches decision to stay or go state's rights it's not a bad comparison because the way that the united methodist church works is that every church is part of a bigger body called an annual conference which is basically just a regional body i'm here in the baltimore washington annual conference which covers a lot of maryland for example every annual conference is going to have the opportunity opportunity to vote if they so choose to leave the united methodist church for the traditional denomination.

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"united methodist" Discussed on The BreakPoint Podcast

The BreakPoint Podcast

13:44 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on The BreakPoint Podcast

"I'm Shane Morris. Senior writer here at the Colson Center. Vox describes it as the spiritual home of figures as varied as w Bush Dick Cheney Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren. It's a large and storied communion that traces. Its roots to the Wesley Brothers and and has been one of the largest historical sponsors of global missions. The United Methodist Church is or maybe soon was the second largest Protestant denomination in America America and has a worldwide membership of around thirteen million but church leaders announced Friday that after years of tension over issues like abortion and especially really LGBT issues. They've decided to split the denomination in two with the Evangelical side leaving the form it's own body. Despite consistently voting in the majority of today. I'm joined by a thinker with deep roots in the methodist tradition. And love for this church. Mark Tooley is the president of the Institute on Religion Democracy Accuracy in Washington. DC and former CIA man. He's also an editor of Christian Foreign Policy Journal and the author of several books on this topic including taking back the United Methodist Church and methodism and politics in the twentieth century Mark. It's a great pleasure to have you on the break point. podcast today. Great to be with you will mark. I I'm thinking of our evangelical listeners. Here if you could tell us a little bit about how it came to this. What led to this moment? Wire Methodist is fighting about homosexual relationships among other things. Isn't the Bible really clear on that. Will of course this debate among United Methodist is not really the alternate about sexuality. That's only the presenting issue. It's about much more deep. Seated theological differences that date back more than a hundred years. Swin theological liberalism took over the seminaries of all of the mainline Protestant denominations but it wasn't until the nineteen seventies nineteen eighties when the sexualities were the fruit of that takeover and hints all of the mainline Protestant terminations are virtually. All liberalized. Is your sexuality teachings over the last fifteen or twenty years with many conservatives consequently exiting except for the United United Methodist Church and they are different because their membership is global and because the United methodism is growing in Africa Ibanez it declines declines in the US that presented a at least legislatively at the governing convention. Every four years a conservative majority that prevented invented the denomination from liberalizing. Its teaching that marriage is only between male and female. Okay so Lutheran friend of mine quipped last week that the split kind of sounds like a bunch of carnivores joining a Vegan club and then telling the vegans that if they don't like hamburgers they need to go form their own new club. The wesleyan tradition addition like you know pretty much. All of Christianity before recently is historically clear on what marriage is and the nature of sexuality why are the Conservatives who are consistently voting in the majority here. Why are they the ones leaving? We'll I think it's better. Understood is not anyone leaving but effectively. The United Methodist Church which actually was founded in its current form in nineteen sixty eight from a merger between the Methodist Church and another denomination is effectively ending potentially in the year two thousand twenty and emerging from it will be two or perhaps even more denominations one traditional one liberal maybe even radical full version of the church at your question goes to the logistics of this division in that the liberals will inherit the bureaucracy of the old denomination in part because conservatives don't want that bureaucracy it's overly large sustainable all liberal ineffective not focused on the local church so for many conservatives to liberals can have it. We went to start. Fresh lie. Grew up in the Southern Baptist Convention and I've spent much of my adult life over in the Presbyterian Church in America And the stories of many of these old Protestant traditions are parallel ways. The Presbyterian Church in America is one of several denominations that formed in the aftermath of the break-up Cup of the old Presbyterian mainline denominations and the current Presbyterian mainline is the PC USA. Which is why I always have to tell everyone? No I'm I'm not that kind of Presbyterian given that history which seems to be repeating itself with the United Methodist Church what sort of kept you over the years in the UMC. Why is it that you've stuck around? When so many denominations seem to have followed a parallel track and into liberalism and fallen apart? We'll I grew up in and came to faith eighth in the United Methodist Church so I would a great deal. My family has roots in a church. Going back two hundred years and there's also been a large conservative evangelical. Oh subculture in the eye methods Turkey of liberalism controlled all the structures of control and Markey and the culture in the average local church is. It's not liberal. It tends to be at least right of center if not conservative. Will you mentioned a moment ago. The African membership and the dynamic that that's introduced into the United Methodist Church over the course of this controversy. methodism is a global communion. And it's actually unlike many of the mainline churches growing in contrast has to those Protestant denominations who are these conservatives in the methodist church exactly who are going to be forming potentially their own denominations and how they kept the denomination from sliding all the way into what I would describe as an apostasy will. There's always been an evangelical subculture in the Methodist Church. Gotcha when liberalism took over the domination Pretty early in the twentieth century the evangelical sort of withdrew into that subculture and then in the late nineteen sixties. She's evangelical forward their caucus which was known as good news for over fifty years. Good news contended for the Orthodox faith joined later on by other other traditional caucuses and they kept the flame burning and did not reclaim the denominational structures or the agencies but did keep the domination from liberalizing on sexuality and actually equalize a little bit on its official theological stances and in two thousand sixteen pulled dominated out after forty two years from pro abortion rights ecumenical coalition but all of that was only possible because of the African church because they allied with American evangelical created this New Conservative governing majority. And that's been what's so frustrating about watching the coverage of this mark is that so so much of it seems to imply that evangelical are the ones for lack of a better word contaminated the church. They're the ones who have you know who refused this historical evolution in a liberal direction and so they're causing the split and it's just not fair and not only that but most of the coverage doesn't mention the fact that you just mentioned that that this evangelical resistance so to speak is centered largely in Africa. I've heard it. I think rightly compared the liberal effort to force these. He's sexual revolutionary values on the African methodist averted compared to sort of religious or theological colonialism. You know here's our enlightenment. Here's our new way of doing things and this is how you have to believe now and behave in those overseas are saying look. This is what the Church has always believed. We can't be unfaithful to our tradition tradition or to scripture or two God. That's strikes me as so unfair about the whole cupboards speaking of unfair coverage the article I mentioned earlier characterize characterize the split in a way that I just think is outrageous. It says the number of Americans who regularly attend church is sitting at its lowest point in decades millennials in the US us are particularly turned off by Anti Lgbtq Church doctrine and it goes on. There are many reasons why Americans aren't as religious as they used to be but for many a young people the way they're LGBTQ friends are treated by hardline. Christians and Catholics is often a motivator for leaving the church. Okay sounds to me like what vox is saying. Here you were implying is that lack of acceptance of homosexuality and LGBTQ identity or whatever is causing the decline in American Christianity but the misses a critical fact. Doesn't it that the church is declining. Fastest are the ones that affirm. LGBTQ identity relationships right. Who'll that's exactly the right liberal denominations that just in America but around the world are all in declined? I can't think of a single liberal Protestant domination in the world. That's growing right now. Of course they're all aging very quickly. They don't have successful young adults ministry. You should look. Who's planning churches in urban areas including right here in Washington DC? They're all evangelical mainline. Protestants aren't really can't plant effective. Churches that reach millennials and in terms of conservative. Nominations visit America. Yes there are some that are declining. This southern bathrooms have been declining for about fifteen years. But there are growing denomination in America the assemblies of God Christian Missionary Alliance Alliance to Presbyterian Church in America's growing again. There are others so it's fair to say that there are no liberal growing denominations and and being conservative is no guarantee of growth but all growing denominations are conservative and then finally the greatest area in American Christianity of courses nondenominational searchers which almost uniformly are evangelical. What do you think liberal churches have such an issue with trick growth? Why can't they seem to gain new members I will? It's counterintuitive you. Think if they're attuned to the surrounding culture that they would appeal to the surrounding culture and attract crowd. But I would argue argued that churches attract people because they offer a distinct message that's different the surrounding culture that's interesting and compelling and maybe people don't like it but at least it gets their attention but if the church just offers whatever everyone else is saying maybe it attracts no resistance but it also attracts minimal interest right a friend of mine described. The theology taught many mainline churches as you know the Ellen Degeneres show with worst production value. Well that's right. The church really can't compete CNET every night and always loses so Grove City College professor and Presbyterian Theologian Karl. Truman wrote in first things about the methodist split recently and he said the sexual revolution has always been but a symptom of the Self Hood Revolution whereby excessive individualism came to dominate. How our culture understands the purpose of life and that means that any church where same sex marriage is significant enough to cause divisive debate is a church where significant parties have already absorbed that spirit of the age regarding person who'd love sex sexuality whether intentionally or by Cultural Osmosis he says and that in turn means it is a church where significant parties have already abandoned basic Christian anthropology and an Orthodox understanding of Biblical authority? Basically he's saying. This is a symptom of a disease. That's already progressed. So so far that the church's fatally sick do you think that's fair. Does it strike you as overly fatalistic especially given denominations like the Southern Baptist Church toward the Lutheran Church Missouri. Synod that have had sort of revivals and moves back away from liberalism. Will it sounds overly listrik. I know it's many conservatives. I want to thank the current American culture is just the most decadent over and there is decadent in it but I don't know that it's more decadent than a hundred years ago. Our problems are or decadence is a different kind of decadence. But if I had to choose between drag Queens or twenty thousand klansmen marching down Pennsylvania Avenue the nineteen twenties. which would you choose? They're both undesirable for different reasons so the churches always operating in a culture. That's at odds with the Gospel. And it's the Churches Vocation Asian to work to be a witness to culture and to redeem the culture. So what would you say is your breaking point. How far would a denomination half to go? Institutionally personally into liberalism for you to say no. That's too much. I'm out well for many conservatives in them and the other mainline denominations it was the teaching on on sexuality and marriage but that was late in the game so decades before that you had bishops and Theologians denying the Deity of Christ and his Virgin Birth obviously scriptural authority so the debate over sexuality just a late consequence of theological liberalism. But I think broadly speaking as long as the official doctrine remains Orthodox Orthodox believers can make the case for staying in no matter how unevenly doctrine is Appel but the church officially officially overturns Orthodox teachings it. I think it's a real challenge to remain unless you simply see yourself as a missionary. We'll give this split mark mark. Where does it leave? Orthodox faculty at Methodist Institution seminaries and colleges very good question united methods and has thirteen eighteen official seminaries around the US. Twelve of them will align with the liberal denomination one Probably will line more with conserved served nomination. And there's a Asbury Theological Seminary Kentucky which is not United Methodist but more united methodist at ten there than any of the official seminaries or is and will service and provide graduates for the conservative church and hopefully probably helping needed.

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"united methodist" Discussed on The BreakPoint Podcast

The BreakPoint Podcast

13:44 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on The BreakPoint Podcast

"I'm Shane Morris. Senior writer here at the Colson Center. Vox describes it as the spiritual home of figures as varied as w Bush Dick Cheney Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren. It's a large and storied communion that traces. Its roots to the Wesley Brothers and and has been one of the largest historical sponsors of global missions. The United Methodist Church is or maybe soon was the second largest Protestant denomination in America America and has a worldwide membership of around thirteen million but church leaders announced Friday that after years of tension over issues like abortion and especially really LGBT issues. They've decided to split the denomination in two with the Evangelical side leaving the form it's own body. Despite consistently voting in the majority of today. I'm joined by a thinker with deep roots in the methodist tradition. And love for this church. Mark Tooley is the president of the Institute on Religion Democracy Accuracy in Washington. DC and former CIA man. He's also an editor of Christian Foreign Policy Journal and the author of several books on this topic including taking back the United Methodist Church and methodism and politics in the twentieth century Mark. It's a great pleasure to have you on the break point. podcast today. Great to be with you will mark. I I'm thinking of our evangelical listeners. Here if you could tell us a little bit about how it came to this. What led to this moment? Wire Methodist is fighting about homosexual relationships among other things. Isn't the Bible really clear on that. Will of course this debate among United Methodist is not really the alternate about sexuality. That's only the presenting issue. It's about much more deep. Seated theological differences that date back more than a hundred years. Swin theological liberalism took over the seminaries of all of the mainline Protestant denominations but it wasn't until the nineteen seventies nineteen eighties when the sexualities were the fruit of that takeover and hints all of the mainline Protestant terminations are virtually. All liberalized. Is your sexuality teachings over the last fifteen or twenty years with many conservatives consequently exiting except for the United United Methodist Church and they are different because their membership is global and because the United methodism is growing in Africa Ibanez it declines declines in the US that presented a at least legislatively at the governing convention. Every four years a conservative majority that prevented invented the denomination from liberalizing. Its teaching that marriage is only between male and female. Okay so Lutheran friend of mine quipped last week that the split kind of sounds like a bunch of carnivores joining a Vegan club and then telling the vegans that if they don't like hamburgers they need to go form their own new club. The wesleyan tradition addition like you know pretty much. All of Christianity before recently is historically clear on what marriage is and the nature of sexuality why are the Conservatives who are consistently voting in the majority here. Why are they the ones leaving? We'll I think it's better. Understood is not anyone leaving but effectively. The United Methodist Church which actually was founded in its current form in nineteen sixty eight from a merger between the Methodist Church and another denomination is effectively ending potentially in the year two thousand twenty and emerging from it will be two or perhaps even more denominations one traditional one liberal maybe even radical full version of the church at your question goes to the logistics of this division in that the liberals will inherit the bureaucracy of the old denomination in part because conservatives don't want that bureaucracy it's overly large sustainable all liberal ineffective not focused on the local church so for many conservatives to liberals can have it. We went to start. Fresh lie. Grew up in the Southern Baptist Convention and I've spent much of my adult life over in the Presbyterian Church in America And the stories of many of these old Protestant traditions are parallel ways. The Presbyterian Church in America is one of several denominations that formed in the aftermath of the break-up Cup of the old Presbyterian mainline denominations and the current Presbyterian mainline is the PC USA. Which is why I always have to tell everyone? No I'm I'm not that kind of Presbyterian given that history which seems to be repeating itself with the United Methodist Church what sort of kept you over the years in the UMC. Why is it that you've stuck around? When so many denominations seem to have followed a parallel track and into liberalism and fallen apart? We'll I grew up in and came to faith eighth in the United Methodist Church so I would a great deal. My family has roots in a church. Going back two hundred years and there's also been a large conservative evangelical. Oh subculture in the eye methods Turkey of liberalism controlled all the structures of control and Markey and the culture in the average local church is. It's not liberal. It tends to be at least right of center if not conservative. Will you mentioned a moment ago. The African membership and the dynamic that that's introduced into the United Methodist Church over the course of this controversy. methodism is a global communion. And it's actually unlike many of the mainline churches growing in contrast has to those Protestant denominations who are these conservatives in the methodist church exactly who are going to be forming potentially their own denominations and how they kept the denomination from sliding all the way into what I would describe as an apostasy will. There's always been an evangelical subculture in the Methodist Church. Gotcha when liberalism took over the domination Pretty early in the twentieth century the evangelical sort of withdrew into that subculture and then in the late nineteen sixties. She's evangelical forward their caucus which was known as good news for over fifty years. Good news contended for the Orthodox faith joined later on by other other traditional caucuses and they kept the flame burning and did not reclaim the denominational structures or the agencies but did keep the domination from liberalizing on sexuality and actually equalize a little bit on its official theological stances and in two thousand sixteen pulled dominated out after forty two years from pro abortion rights ecumenical coalition but all of that was only possible because of the African church because they allied with American evangelical created this New Conservative governing majority. And that's been what's so frustrating about watching the coverage of this mark is that so so much of it seems to imply that evangelical are the ones for lack of a better word contaminated the church. They're the ones who have you know who refused this historical evolution in a liberal direction and so they're causing the split and it's just not fair and not only that but most of the coverage doesn't mention the fact that you just mentioned that that this evangelical resistance so to speak is centered largely in Africa. I've heard it. I think rightly compared the liberal effort to force these. He's sexual revolutionary values on the African methodist averted compared to sort of religious or theological colonialism. You know here's our enlightenment. Here's our new way of doing things and this is how you have to believe now and behave in those overseas are saying look. This is what the Church has always believed. We can't be unfaithful to our tradition tradition or to scripture or two God. That's strikes me as so unfair about the whole cupboards speaking of unfair coverage the article I mentioned earlier characterize characterize the split in a way that I just think is outrageous. It says the number of Americans who regularly attend church is sitting at its lowest point in decades millennials in the US us are particularly turned off by Anti Lgbtq Church doctrine and it goes on. There are many reasons why Americans aren't as religious as they used to be but for many a young people the way they're LGBTQ friends are treated by hardline. Christians and Catholics is often a motivator for leaving the church. Okay sounds to me like what vox is saying. Here you were implying is that lack of acceptance of homosexuality and LGBTQ identity or whatever is causing the decline in American Christianity but the misses a critical fact. Doesn't it that the church is declining. Fastest are the ones that affirm. LGBTQ identity relationships right. Who'll that's exactly the right liberal denominations that just in America but around the world are all in declined? I can't think of a single liberal Protestant domination in the world. That's growing right now. Of course they're all aging very quickly. They don't have successful young adults ministry. You should look. Who's planning churches in urban areas including right here in Washington DC? They're all evangelical mainline. Protestants aren't really can't plant effective. Churches that reach millennials and in terms of conservative. Nominations visit America. Yes there are some that are declining. This southern bathrooms have been declining for about fifteen years. But there are growing denomination in America the assemblies of God Christian Missionary Alliance Alliance to Presbyterian Church in America's growing again. There are others so it's fair to say that there are no liberal growing denominations and and being conservative is no guarantee of growth but all growing denominations are conservative and then finally the greatest area in American Christianity of courses nondenominational searchers which almost uniformly are evangelical. What do you think liberal churches have such an issue with trick growth? Why can't they seem to gain new members I will? It's counterintuitive you. Think if they're attuned to the surrounding culture that they would appeal to the surrounding culture and attract crowd. But I would argue argued that churches attract people because they offer a distinct message that's different the surrounding culture that's interesting and compelling and maybe people don't like it but at least it gets their attention but if the church just offers whatever everyone else is saying maybe it attracts no resistance but it also attracts minimal interest right a friend of mine described. The theology taught many mainline churches as you know the Ellen Degeneres show with worst production value. Well that's right. The church really can't compete CNET every night and always loses so Grove City College professor and Presbyterian Theologian Karl. Truman wrote in first things about the methodist split recently and he said the sexual revolution has always been but a symptom of the Self Hood Revolution whereby excessive individualism came to dominate. How our culture understands the purpose of life and that means that any church where same sex marriage is significant enough to cause divisive debate is a church where significant parties have already absorbed that spirit of the age regarding person who'd love sex sexuality whether intentionally or by Cultural Osmosis he says and that in turn means it is a church where significant parties have already abandoned basic Christian anthropology and an Orthodox understanding of Biblical authority? Basically he's saying. This is a symptom of a disease. That's already progressed. So so far that the church's fatally sick do you think that's fair. Does it strike you as overly fatalistic especially given denominations like the Southern Baptist Church toward the Lutheran Church Missouri. Synod that have had sort of revivals and moves back away from liberalism. Will it sounds overly listrik. I know it's many conservatives. I want to thank the current American culture is just the most decadent over and there is decadent in it but I don't know that it's more decadent than a hundred years ago. Our problems are or decadence is a different kind of decadence. But if I had to choose between drag Queens or twenty thousand klansmen marching down Pennsylvania Avenue the nineteen twenties. which would you choose? They're both undesirable for different reasons so the churches always operating in a culture. That's at odds with the Gospel. And it's the Churches Vocation Asian to work to be a witness to culture and to redeem the culture. So what would you say is your breaking point. How far would a denomination half to go? Institutionally personally into liberalism for you to say no. That's too much. I'm out well for many conservatives in them and the other mainline denominations it was the teaching on on sexuality and marriage but that was late in the game so decades before that you had bishops and Theologians denying the Deity of Christ and his Virgin Birth obviously scriptural authority so the debate over sexuality just a late consequence of theological liberalism. But I think broadly speaking as long as the official doctrine remains Orthodox Orthodox believers can make the case for staying in no matter how unevenly doctrine is Appel but the church officially officially overturns Orthodox teachings it. I think it's a real challenge to remain unless you simply see yourself as a missionary. We'll give this split mark mark. Where does it leave? Orthodox faculty at Methodist Institution seminaries and colleges very good question united methods and has thirteen eighteen official seminaries around the US. Twelve of them will align with the liberal denomination one Probably will line more with conserved served nomination. And there's a Asbury Theological Seminary Kentucky which is not United Methodist but more united methodist at ten there than any of the official seminaries or is and will service and provide graduates for the conservative church and hopefully probably helping needed.

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"united methodist" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

WBAP 820AM

06:57 min | 2 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on WBAP 820AM

"Now it's the pastor of we live in United Methodist Church and talking to WFAA TV channel eight so he's out rates what do you think do you think that they should just open up and let it go I think this is absolutely what they should do I think that any opportunity to take dangerous people off the streets and put him into a prison where they belong is good and if they have outstanding warrants all these guys do I'm sure they do they have outstanding warrants so it's not that they are former Fallon they have outstanding warrants this is a great thing in all police departments you have the we see stories about them from time time lying and saying Hey you know if you free you know you may have won a free this or that or you know I mean just call us and let us you know if you heard about that have you called or something and then when they call the the so yeah you know you won this come pick it up and when you pick when you come pick up if your criminal they arrest you whatever I've seen them do things like that where it's like I think they even sent it's like the people have a warrant cycle send some their house or summer column I don't know Hey you one hundred Bucks show up at this place if you show up better has them I love it in them this idea well we can't trust church now too you know what do the people that they arrest and put a custody are wanted on outstanding warrants for violent felonies you know what they're actually warm and they're being fed how about that they really are there warm there being fed and there where they belong in the jail cell pastor do not care for the people that that the children that they've raped sex crimes against a child the the people they've killed criminally negligent homicide the people have assaulted the people that committed family violence against against do you not care for them because you know god doesn't god stands up for them to so this is ungodly to be mad about justice and by the way they did not and I think you might have a better case if they were coughing and stuff and you forget a war for a misdemeanor or non violent offense they're not if you're a non violent offense that you going and they told the people before they checked in they said we were told they were told at check in that you will have a background check and screening for serious felonies and violent crime people had minor ones are non violence went right there and so this pastor came out and said shame on you and by the way pastor if you want them you take them in what you pastor take in the sex offenders and taken the people but I want to for family violence and negligent homicide and salt and and raping our children pastor actually if you did you'd be harboring somebody who is wanted for us a violent crime pastor that's ungodly to be harboring people there are one in a violent crimes past you shouldn't go ministries people you claim to care about that are in jail now that with our final wanted once a single time you know what this is god's way of taking care you should turn yourself in this is justice I thought you still for stuff like social justice where's the justice for dig dig the people were robbed and raped by these folks what's wrong with you you would harbor inside you take him in and then and then you know and by the way than if you're harboring people that I wanna warns that you're in trouble too you're breaking the law so now you're wrong Iran and I think you could I I I I I don't I don't I don't think I would support you know getting somebody for misdemeanor Jay walking or some violent offenses yes that's just not a not an option so shame on you past reset shame on the city of Dallas eight hundred two eight eight W. B. A. P. is our number eight hundred two eight eight nine two two seven they're gonna be meeting with the city and it was so their outrage they put out this open letter to the city and all of us to tell us how horrible this was in or out raising the going to meet with the city and I got to meet with the mayor and I sent a letter to the mayor of the city to the press in his the letter says at least part of it shame on the city of Dallas shame on you for intentionally taking advantage of this community during this time of vulnerability and a willingness to entrust their souls and humanity in your care due to this charade our neighbors no longer feel safe in the city of Dallas care which these faith communities to be questioned a safe places which indeed are safe but due to the city of Dallas billing disclosure scheme to US lives are risk how this guy freaking what what the people they arrested our I wanted for fleeing I'm trying to take advantage of this community cops in the city can take advantage of the community that these people take advantage of the community clinic care about our neighbors longer feel safe you said what the heck is that the people of the rate an assault that don't feel safe what's wrong with you our communities questions is a safe place what do you mean pastor we literally got think about the past or you can send a child molester into that room pastor what would you say to the woman who went into that shelter that night with a child and that child was raped what would you say to her well honey that's just god's plan Nighy was safe being with you and raping your child and of course not not not happy about your child being late today and what the heck this guy's west and sadly I I I I don't know what's gonna happen with the city and the mayor but I hope they stand up to discrepancy get out of here strong with you thank and this is why the shelters have strict rules because they don't want a child or a woman you know getting raped you know that that the tent city that was going on in Dallas that they were busted up every few weeks for like a year that we talked about at that one that one there were three to four murders that happened in less than a year of virtually every woman and every woman in the whole tent city thing according to the reports I saw when I was going on had been sexually assaulted in some way either raped groped every woman in those things what the heck the thing's going to happen and that the shelter temporary shelter was transitory for a day or two thank you for protecting the people that were most vulnerable.

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"united methodist" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

106.1 FM WTKK

03:40 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK

"United Methodist Church on Eastland road which is one of the more than. it was a elderly white congregation in neighborhoods transition. when the pastor said we've got to do something to help kids in this community. twenty six years old. just finishing up undergraduate studies and he asked me if maybe you've got some extra time can you comment help reach these kids. so I did put up a basketball church parking lot one basketball in one out there just myself just started bouncing the ball. the next day same thing same time just bouncing along. just ensure not complicate show from the neighborhood. one week two weeks three weeks went on pretty soon we had a hundred. tragedy began to gain more and more of our program. tension. it was sad to see the kids and. sure there. they would joke with each other you know you can manage. somebody's come in your house. but you can tell. they knew they were in something together you know. this. danger in the Kentucky together in around the program in and saw me as the leader. made him feel good to be a community. to view there were safety. and. everybody. whether they admit it or not response to love. we made some progress. it's a long way to go I can see a tremendous difference in the. this is I grew up with being born in the mid fifties. nation gaming. the kids. but that's that's what they. they still see some of those same. in our view the. come a long. they're still bigotry a lot not only here but I imagine throughout this. perhaps we. we used to. they're still there. except in those kids and their families. together we. does a man named bill Burnham.

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"united methodist" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

Progressive Talk 1350 AM

03:40 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM

"United Methodist Church on Easton road which is one of the Mormon it was an elderly white congregation in neighborhoods transition when the pastor said we've got to do something to help kids in this community twenty six years old just finishing up undergraduate studies and he asked me if maybe you've got some extra time can you comment help reach these kids so I did put up a basketball church parking lot one basketball in one out there just myself just started bouncing the ball the next day same thing same time just bouncing along consist insure not Cup like can't show from the neighborhood one week two weeks three weeks went on pretty soon we had a hundred tragedy began to gain more and more published today our program again tension it was sad to see the kids show their they would joke with each other you know you can manage somebody's come in your house but you could tell they knew they were in something together you know running this danger in the Kentucky together in around the program in and saw me as the leader made him feel good to be a commune there were safety in our group everybody whether they admit it or not response to love we made some progress it was a long way yet to go I can see a tremendous difference in the this is I grew up with being born in the mid fascination king the kids saying that they were but that they were living that's what they still see some of those same in our view the come along there are still bigotry alive not only here but I imagine throughout this perhaps we we used to they're still there except in those kids and their families and there was a man named bill Byrne.

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"united methodist" Discussed on AM 1350 WEZS

AM 1350 WEZS

03:40 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on AM 1350 WEZS

"United Methodist Church on Easton road which is one of the more one he was a elderly white congregation in neighborhoods transition when the pastor said we've got to do something to help kids in this community twenty six years old just finishing up undergraduate studies and he asked me if maybe you've got some extra time can you comment help reach these kids so I did put up a basketball church parking lot one basketball in one out there just myself and just started bouncing the ball balance in the the next day same thing same time just bounce in the consist insure not Cup like kids show from the neighborhood one week two weeks three weeks went on pretty soon we had a hundred tragedy began to gain more and more published city our program again tension it was sad to see the kids sure there they would joke with each other you know you can manage somebody's come in your house but you can tell they knew they were in something together you know running this danger in the Kentucky together in around the program in and saw me as the leader made him feel good to be a community to view there were safety everybody whether they admit it or not response to love we made some progress it was a long way yet to go I can see a tremendous difference in the this is I grew up with born in the mid destination king the kids saying that they were but that they were living that's what they've been they still see some of those same in our view the come along there are still bigotry a lot not only here but I imagine throughout this perhaps we we used to they're still there except in those kids and their families and together we in there was a man named bill Byrne as.

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"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:36 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"I'd like to point out a survey that was done last year in the north Georgia annual conference where people were asked whether they would leave the church if the one church plan past which is an opening up to same sex marriage and ordination or whether the traditional plan passed in it found that if the traditional plan past roughly five percent of the people said that they would probably look at leaving the church, and if the one plan pass probably twenty five percent said that they would. Well, you know, Rachel Cordwell we've got just under a minute left to go. And so happens you get the less thought for today. So what do you see as the future for your church? Well, I'm actually very hopeful about the future of the United Methodist Church. I think this breaks open in a really good way to have important conversations about the church. We wanna be and what we stand for what we believe. And I again, I wanna assize the power of the local church to really meet people where they are in minister to people in our open table will reach will ordained elder in the Baltimore Washington conference in part of the clergy team at foundry United Methodist Church. Thank you so much for joining us this hour. Thank you and Tom Lambert ordained elder in the United Methodist Church and also vice president and general manager of the Methodist magazine. Good news. Thank you for joining us this hour, Tom. My pleasure Magna. Thank you. And Brett crutch scholar of religion and sexuality in the United States at Haverford college really grateful that you could be with us breath. Thank you. Thanks, go to on radio dot, Oregon. Let us know what you think about the direction the United Methodist Church is headed or. You can send us a comment over social media, Twitter and Facebook, we're at on point radio, I make chocolate birdie. This is on point..

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"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

03:42 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Forgive me for interrupting please just we're down to just a couple of minutes. But I want us you quick question before let you go Bryant here because you're talking about you know, other denominations losing churches because of their their stance on same sex marriage. But I was reading here that the the Wesleyan covenant association. It's a group of fifteen hundred conservative congregations in the United Methodist Church. They said they they would leave if the United Methodist Church of Ota to approve same sex marriage. So either way it seemed like a schism of some kind is coming. Agree with you. But I my position as a Methodist is degree with combat will lose far less. If we stick with the bible that if we try to go with society because the whole problem with Christianity across the centuries. Not just now is that every time Christianity compromises its core beliefs and goes with popular society, which is against Christianity. We lose half of our congregants. And I guarantee you will lose far less if we stay with the bible, and if we decide to go with society against our own Christian beliefs Bryant, thank you so much for your call Brett crutch, which lighters bond. Brian. He's not wrong. And you're you're not wrong either. That schism is likely either way. And you know, one thing I think we have to interject here is that debates about LGBTQ people are often not just about LGBTQ people. They're also about gender and women and women's place in heterosexual relationships that sanctioning same gender. Marriages can undermine if two women for example, can get married, and it can up end those for whom more traditional ideas about gender hierarchy, and and male dominance of who who hold that to be sacred. And so it's it can pull a thread that for some on weaves a much larger tapestry at Tom lamberton. Would what do you think about that? Well, that may be true in some fundamentalist nominations. It's not true in the United Methodist Church. We are committed to the ordination of women and equality for women in the United Methodist Church, and that would not change. Even if the WC a the Wesleyan covenant association were to leave the United Methodist Church, if the church changed its position, we would still be very strongly in favor of women's ordination. And we do not hold a hierarchical view of marriage. Okay. So let me just ask you briefly. Our caller Bryant said that that he believes the the best preservation of the church is to go against the direction that society is headed that's a very fundamental, very basic sort of view of you know, of how avert any church, but in this case, we're talking about Methodist oughta out of you itself as opposed to the direction that societies headed, what do you think about that? Well, throughout the church's history, we've had to take counter cultural stands on issues. I mean, we the Roman empire. It was Christians who. Who rescued babies that were left out on the hillside, the die by the Roman culture that was an acceptable practice back. Then. So I mean, we've always had those things that we needed to oppose about our culture. I think the important point that he made was number one that we need to stay faithful to scripture and the teachings of scripture in order to maintain our integrity as Christians, but number two that we would lose far fewer people by staying with traditional position..

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"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

01:30 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"Where do the we're do the theological justifications for stances that major triggers take in America, where do they come from that when we talk about looking to the bible, don't we have an example of how the bible was used to. To justify actions that we now universally see as having been opponent in his that happening now with with the Methodists. Well, I think that's a good example of of how the culture influenced the interpretation of scripture, the United Methodist Church, for example, the originally the Methodist church which started in seventeen eighty four here in America was very strongly anti-slavery, and that was our understanding and interpretation of scripture right from the beginning. But in the south there were areas where slavery was accepted, even at that point. And because of that acceptance socially, it changed the part of the church's interpretation of scripture and influence, the the church to allow for slavery to happen. And that led to the split that happened in eighteen forty four. So I kind of view this as very similar situation where our culture is becoming more and more accepting various kinds of sexual relationships that the bible says are not appropriate. And as a result of. That people are there for tr- changing their understanding and interpretation of scripture to match with the culture says, and that's not a healthy direction for us to go..

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"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:11 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"The past week is that some of the fastest growing congregations in Methodism are outside the United States in nations whose cultural attitudes about about the LGBTQ community are quite different. Sure. And and there are also fast growing churches in the United in the US which are inclusive and welcoming an, and I I think our global church makes us much stronger. Together, I was a missionary in Asia. I've spent time in southern Africa are conference has a partnership with his Imbaba annual conference. And I celebrate the growth of the church around the world. But I I don't think that we need to push each other out. I. I disagree that we have such a deep theological rift. We certainly have worked to do this general conference has exposed just how broken we are. And it's not just over the issue of homosexuality. It's also over how we interpret the bible, and what we believe our mission to be. But I think I think we can still hold onto what we share in common. We have a are the mission of the United Methodist Church is to make disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world. And that may look different in different places. But I don't I don't see that that needs to exclude anybody from particular theological perspective will Thome limber, which looked to respond to that. Will. I think the as we look at this whole situation. The question is what helps the church to become the most effective in its ministry. And right now, a lot of the resources and energy of the church are tied up in this battle over that the allergy and. And this disagreement over how we are to engage in ministry with LGBT persons, and that is distracting us, and and depriving us of effective ministry. If the mill I mean, just for an example, the cost of our general conference in Saint Louis was three and a half million the commission that I was a part of cost another three quarters of a million. If if over four million dollars that went into this preparation for this conference with spent on mission and ministry, what a difference would that make and just multiply that by many, many dollars that are being spent on this issue and have been for the last forty years, and and the time that we are spending that could be devoted to mention a ministry. Well, Tom Lehrer and Brecht and Rachel Cornwell stand by here for just a moment. We've got to take a quick break. We are talking about the United Methodist Church the LGBTQ community and a possible schism in the United Methodist Church want to hear from you and your reaction of the Methodist conference. Last week voting to strengthen its rules against performing same sex marriage and even punishing clergy. This is on point. This is on point Meghna Chakrabarti were talking this hour about the United Methodist Church the LGBTQ community in a possible. Schism in the church following a Methodist conference last week where the United Methodist Church voted by a slim margin, but voted nevertheless to strengthen its rules against performing same sex marriage against ordaining gay ministers and strengthen its rules on punishing ministers who do perform same sex marriages. Let's listen to a little bit of what happened at the the Methodist conference last week. It was took place in Saint Louis and Reverend Gerry Kula from Liberia emphasized, the growing United Methodist following outside the United States, particularly in Africa, and that churches there according to Reverend Kula do not support LGBTQ inclusion. Remember trust is not not us this church, so far so want to suggest that if you support some other plan. It will be limited access would be limited to America. That is a delusion. Well, on the other hand, the first openly, lesbian Methodist Bishop Karen, Allah veto told NPR's morning edition on Friday that she does not want to see the Methodist church schism..

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"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

04:34 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"First of all, why did you want to not uniquely you? But what what was the drive to strengthening the rules against L same sex marriage in the Methodist church, we'll Magna for the last forty years, we've had disagreements in our church over these issues, and we've talked about how to be in ministry with LGBT persons. We agree that LGBT persons are persons of sacred worth their loved by God. But and we've had disagreements about how the churches to reach out and ministry to them. So about six years ago there began to be an organized movement to disobey the churches. Rules. We can we can understand and and deal with disagreements in the church, and they can sometimes enrich our understanding of the faith. But when people especially clergy and bishops who are supposed to be the the leaders of the church begin to disobey, the churches rules and. Act contrary to our church's policy that brings up a situation that really puts us in a very difficult place because it affects our churches and our ability to reach people and to share the message. And so it it leads to a contradiction. Okay. So so sorry. Forgive me for interrupting here. But but on the point you just made I want to get a reaction from Rachel Cordwell. Well, then we'll continue to explore what more of what you were saying, Tom Lambert. But but but Rachel Cornwall. I mean, just give us your response here as you heard Tom saying part of the reason was certain members of the of the church overall seeing this what he called a movement to disobey the churches rules in that's one of the reasons why they wanted to put forth this new proposal that passed to strengthen the churches owns ru own rules. Yeah. And I believe that that is what happened. We didn't really say anything new coming out of general conference just to. Recommitment to the the current rules and strengthening of the punishing of of clergy. I mean, I think I agree with Tom that the rules this affects our ability to reach and minister to people as well when people in our local churches LGBT people LGBT children in youth are are in our churches. We want to extend all the ministries to them. We wanna minister we don't want to withhold any ministry to any person in our churches in our community. And so when when the rules, which we believe are which I believe, and I say, I only speak for myself. I'm not part of any advocacy group in the church pastor, I'm a mom of a transgender child. And I'm a follower of Jesus and a lifelong United Methodist, so but I say that the rules that are in place now are unjust rules. And they impact our. Ability to love and minister to our people Wilson Rachel may ask in in the introduction to this hour. I played we played a little bit of tape from a Portland, Oregon church a congregation out there that they're considering breaking off from the United Methodist Church as a whole is that discussion happening at foundry United Methodist Church in Washington. Absolutely, not no at foundry. We have recommitted to our place in the United Methodist Church believing that our ministry in our witness is vital to the United Methodist Church. We continue to minister to all of God's people. And to believe what we follow is is a higher law as the gospel of Jesus Christ. And and that's what we're going to continue to do. This has not changed. Anything about our mission is only strengthened our our commitment to olive God's people. Okay. So Thome Limburg let me come back to you. Then. So so founder United Methodist Church may. Not be having this conversation now, but some other churches under the United Methodist Church umbrella, are I mean, I is it is it premature to be talking about a possible schism here because I do think I have been hearing that over the past couple of days, we'll make no it's not premature in fact in two thousand sixteen I was part of a group of people who are discussing the way to our church being able to move forward and a constructive and positive direction, and this group of people from across the theological spectrum all came to the conclusion that some form of separation is probably inevitable within the United Methodism..

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"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

02:00 min | 3 years ago

"united methodist" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

"From WB. You are Boston and NPR. I'm Meghna choucroute bardy, and this is on point most mainline Protestant denominations in the US perform same sex marriages and yes, individual conservative churches, did leave their governing bodies over those decisions. But now as an overall Protestant denomination the United Methodist Church, stands alone. The nation's third largest faith group voted last week to strengthen its overall bands on ordaining gay ministers and performing same sex marriages. It will also crackdown on ministers who disobey the rules. Conservative Reverend Keith Boyer spoke in favor of the vote to CBS news the following day. I believe that those who engage in the practice of homosexuality or not living a life that rhesus God on the other hand this weekend. Ren Reverend Andy Oliver more in the decision. His church in Portland, Oregon is considering breaking off from the Methodist church one day. Name. We might learn one day we might accept last Tuesday was not that day this hour on point the United Methodist Church, the LGBTQ community and a possible schism. We'll joining me I today from Houston, Texas is Thomas Lambrechts ordained elder in the United Methodist Church. He submitted the plan to strengthen the new nominations restrictions on LGBTQ clergy and same sex marriage. He's also I should say and performing same sex marriages. He's also vice president and general manager of the Methodist magazine. Good news. Tom Lambert, welcome to on point. Thanks, magnets. Good to be with you. Also with the state from Washington DC is Rachel Cornwell ordained elder in the Baltimore Washington conference. She's part of the extended clergy team at foundry United Methodist Church in Washington DC, Rachel Cornwell. Welcome to you as well. High magnetic thanks for having me. So Tom Lambert? I'd just like to first start with you. I mean, you you put forth the plan. Dan, that's the Methodist conference voted on last week..

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