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Fresh update on "ukraine" discussed on Gary and Shannon
"This afternoon's hearing, but it's unclear what she will say Secretary of State Antony Blinken is in Germany as part of a European tour. Blinken says the two countries don't agree on Russia's North Stream two gas pipeline project, which he says is a Russian attempt to leverage power in the region. Our goal remains To ensure that Russia cannot use energy as a coercive tool as a weapon against Ukraine or anyone else in Europe. A senior U. S diplomat says the trip is focused on rebuilding US relationships with allies. A man whose last name you might recognize from using your computer is set to be extradited from Spain to the U. S. To face tax related criminal charges. Antivirus software maker John McAfee is accused of failing to report income he made from several sources that include selling the rights to his life story for a documentary. McAfee is 75. He was arrested last October at Barcelona's International airport, and he has been held ever since. I said turn fresher turned a national survey ranks. The Chicago Cubs is having the best home uniform and Major League Baseball Chicago's other pro baseball team. The White Sox came in fourth in the survey by Play USA. The Cardinals came in last Let's head to crash.
Lawyer: US Drops Lawsuit, Grand Jury Probe Over Bolton Book
"The justice department has dropped its lawsuit against former national security adviser John Bolton who had written a book about his time in the trump administration the trump administration sued last year to block the release of John Bolton's book the room where it happened and to recover copies that had already been distributed saying it contained classified information the book painted a behind the scenes unflattering account of former president trump's foreign policy dealings with China and Ukraine alleging he made requests for political assistance from leaders of both countries the blighted ministrations filed a document in federal court dismissing the lawsuit against Bolton whose lawyers say a grand jury investigation into the book's publication also has been dropped Jackie Quinn Washington
Fresh update on "ukraine" discussed on Bloomberg Markets
"Thanks so much. Let's head down. Washington, D C World and National News with Nathan Hager Nathan Alright Paul. The UK is denying Russia's report that had fired warning shots near a British destroyer in the Black Sea. In a Twitter message, The UK Ministry of Defense says the H M s defender was conducting an innocent passage through Ukrainian waters. It appears the Russians, it says we're undertaking a gunnery exercise. Earlier, Russia said it dropped four bombs to divert the vessel out of its waters near Crimea. Bloomberg's Greg White Reports from Moscow is right near the big Russian base for the Black Sea fleet and several stockholder incident this morning, according to Russian Defense Ministry happened around noon time at the place called Cape Violent. The Russians obviously claim Crimea annexed it after the conflict with Ukraine in 2014 back here in the U. S gun crime will be in focus at the White House as president Biden unveils a new strategy more on that from Bloomberg governments. Emily Wilkin president Biden wants to plan to curb gun crime and to do that he's going to Happen into that coronavirus relief funding that's left over from the amounts that Congress allocated through those covid stimulus Bill President Biden and Hope to get a police reform bill passed through Congress by last month. Advisors to the Centers for Disease Control meet today on reports of rare heart problems and young people. Have taken the Pfizer or Moderna shot the agency's tracking nearly 800 reports of inflammation. This after the White House acknowledged it will miss President Biden's goal of 70% of adults. Partly vaccinated by the Fourth of July. Doctor She Asia is dean of Brown School of public health. We've got to counter the misinformation. The.
The Latest: Biden arrives at venue for summit with Putin
"President Joe Biden and Russian president Vladimir Putin start their diplomatic talks in Geneva the two were greeted by Swiss president D. Parmalat who spoke through a translator which runs this year I wish you both presidents a fruitful dialogue in the interest of your two countries and the world that reporters yell questions which went unanswered as the leaders headed inside both sides will first hold a small meeting that includes just by didn't Hooton the U. S. secretary of state and the Russian foreign minister with translators they'll then move to larger talks with more senior aides discussions planned include cybercrime Russia's alleged interference in American elections as well as arms control and Russia's intrusion in Ukraine both sides played down expectations for any major breakthroughs while stressing the need to restore more stable relations between the two nations I'm Julie Walker
Biden and Russia's Putin Prepare to Meet in Geneva
"Is in Sweden, where he is scheduled to meet with his Russian counterpart on Wednesday. Here's correspondent Natalie Brand as Has been Biden's visit to Europe draws to a close The stage is set for what may be the most consequential part of the trip. Are you ready? Thank you so much. Thank you. President Biden will meet face to face with Russian President Vladimir Putin at a villa in Geneva, Switzerland. This sit down is expected to last several hours with issues including Ukraine, election interference and cyber attacks High on the agenda.
PSG.LGD Sweep Evil Geniuses, Win WePlay Esports AniMajor
"Start with the, we play and a major for Dota 2 out of Kiev Ukraine. PSG town would end up in the grand finals against Evil Geniuses, who fought hard through their lower bracket bouts ironically during these six four major EG was the one to eliminate PSG. From the upper bracket before they placed third in that tournament this time, it would be a different story for PSG as they blew out EG and game. One of the best of five key would come back and try to keep it competitive. But alas they were no match for PSG as they get Suite. 300 s p, s g, Town becomes the, we play Anna major Champs they take them two hundred thousand dollars at the $5,000 price wise was five hundred pro circuit points in the second major of the Season. PSG Talent is the second-straight Chinese team to win a major after Mortals one Singapore earlier this month. Here
New York Post Criticizes Media Lies; Points to Truth About Biden Corruption in Ukraine
"He says, Uh, this is Michael Goodman is by top 10 Media Lies piece of New York Post. I just said are there I always pride myself on no us in the US are the worst. You don't know us. There's a no odd rule here. Back to Goodwin. Uh, just messing with quote. Lie Number five was the Ukraine impeachment of Trump. Creative fiction based on a complaint from an anonymous member of the Swamp, who never even testified. But others did to say the president is trying to get information on Biden. Family corruption in Ukraine was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Yes, I have the visual AIDS in front of me this ladies and gentlemen, if you're watching on Fox Nation at home, that is a photo taken from Hunter Biden's material of Dad. Joe Biden, President Biden. Now I even put a little circle around as a Sharpie so you can see that's him. With hunters, Ukrainian business partners that Joe Biden said he knew nothing about. Here's the receipt right in front of me. I keep it handy on my desk right here. Receive Hunter Biden. There it is. The Mac shop hunter Biden's computer hunter Biden signature right there, bill to Hunter Biden even at his phone number. We redacted that so nobody calls hunter. Although he probably cancelled the number. I can even give you the quote number 7469 when Hunter dropped off his laptop, so kind of weird how the impeachment holsters told you Trump was engaged in illicit Activity in Ukraine. Yet if you read the story upside down, you
England, the Netherlands, and Austria See Victory in Euro 2020 Openers
"Winning their Euro 2020 opener over Croatia, one minute Wembley Stadium as Raheem Sterling scores the 57th minute elsewhere, the Netherlands outlast Ukraine. 3 to 2 last year wins its first ever European Championship match beating North Macedonia 3 to 1. Top
Biden Urges G-7 Leaders to Unite on China, Infrastructure Initiative
"Leaders of the group of seven industrial nations have agreed on an infrastructure plan for developing nations to challenge China's global initiatives Zidan Biden's campaign to unify the world's democratic leaders to compete economically with China reached a turning point to the summit's Biden held talks with France's Emmanuel macron who was happy to have a corporative ally after four years of a trump presidency which had strange Franco US relations I think it's great to have a US president part of the club and the are you willing to to to cooperate side and also met with German chancellor Angela Merkel he downplayed differences on China and the pipeline that would transport natural gas from Russia to Germany bypassing Ukraine never the less both Biden and medical with positive about discussions and by ten articulated his support for the easy to handle its economic issues European Union I had a very strong and vibrant energy Karen Thomas London
Biden Backs Ukraine Ahead Of His Summit Meeting With Putin
"Com. It's 10 40 before a packed briefing room today. A senior aide to President Biden gave a preview of the US president's upcoming meeting with Russia's Vladimir Putin, The president's national security advisor, says the sit down with Vladimir Putin will come after several days of meetings with America's allies, so he will go into this meeting with the wind at his back. Jake Sullivan says the summit shouldn't be seen as a reward for Putin. Sullivan also says the U. S. Doesn't expect any delivery Bals out of the summit. Instead, he describes it as an opportunity for both sides to exchange views that has value in and of itself. Asked whether the two leaders would meet with AIDS, present or alone, as Putin did with Donald
MH17 Trial Moves to Crucial Merits Phase, Examining Evidence
"Nearly seven years off to Malaysia airlines flight seventeen was shot down over eastern Ukraine the trial in a Dutch court of three Russians and a Ukrainian accused of involvement in the downing has moved to the crucial merits face when evidence will be discussed by lawyers and judges families of some of the victims were present in court to watch the latest hearing in the long running case the trial has progressed through a series of preliminary hearings since opening in March twenty twenty will in the coming days begin examining the huge case five piece together after a years long international investigation the four suspects were not in the courtroom they are being tried in their absence they face life sentences if convicted of murdering the two hundred ninety eight people who died when the flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur was blown out of the sky above conflict torn eastern Ukraine I'm sorry I shockingly
Russian Opposition Figure Leaves Country for Ukraine
"A well known russian opposition politician who was held in police custody for two days last week in a criminal investigation said on sunday that he has now left the country for ukraine. Dmitri good call said in a facebook post that sources in kremlin circles had told him that if i do not leave the country the fake criminal case will continue until my arrest. Good call said he believed. The investigation was aimed at preventing him from running for the national parliament. This year. he was a parliament. Member in twenty eleven through twenty sixteen. Good cov was detained at his country house last week in connection with an investigation into money alleged owed to the city for rental of office space. He was released without charges on thursday. His detention came as authorities continue to crack down on dissent ahead of september's parliamentary elections. Last week a call sent prominent opposition figure. Ondre pover- off to jail for two months pending a probe into his actions as the head of the open. Russia group which authorities have declared an undesirable denies. Ation devolve rav announced. The group was disbanding several days before his arrest.
How Former Hockey Player, Paul de Jersey, Found Success as an Entrepreneur
"Three years ago when you launched this thing your first sale. It was on shop by you. Started with with an online store Icon went door to door a little bit when i first launched it. I'm from vancouver and I as you mentioned in the enjoy split hockey. So i was kind of original originally had the idea. I wanted to validate the concept and and prove the market kind of locally. So i was just selling to people i knew like yours and trainers in gyms and then we we had our shop quayside at first but i think first couple sales were definitely Off line and then We had a couple of sales. We launched the site. And when you get your first sale online it's really. It's really cool especially when it's a stranger so that was kind of the kind of put us in motion and we've been going strong ever since i so going back even further. Where did this idea come from. Yeah like man. I should go sell a bed of nails to be. It's not something i would ever thought that few before. We launched the business. But when i was playing hockey i had a really accusing trainer. Who's actually now my business partner. His name surrogate as robin. He actually travel the world for eight years with the circus soleil. So he's allow. Yeah he's a total freak with his body. He's he's what you would expect in terms of flexibility and strength. That just amazing. But i was a i hurt my back one day while i was Training with him nothing serious but he had one of these mads lying around because all the guys swore by them and he's from russia and eastern europe and they're they're quite popular over there so he gave me this map to try out and i absolutely loved it and i thought this was just an incredible feeling and it really helped my back but i was kind of playing hockey at the time so i just really forgot about it. Then my my career came to an end at college. And i. I remember the matt and i wanted to just buy it myself and i couldn't find it anywhere. I was looking better nails. A spike matt and i couldn't find the product anywhere so i asked her about it and he told me it comes from ukraine. And it's They're very popular in russia. But they're really not well known over here. And so i thought to myself like why no at least like fifty my friends who i would wanna buy this product and we can create a really cool brand here so i reached out to the this ukrainian manufacturing partner in the first call with them. I didn't know a single thing. They were saying. I was just like nine my head in. Yeah we want to sell this. Yeah and we. Eventually we're able to negotiate a the exclusive rights to distribute and sell it in north america and Be built our brand around acupressure. That's the ak you comes from the pays homage to ukraine in russia and ukraine. Everything's called every seized Acupressure so that's kind of what we got the name from. That's a little bit of back.
WePlay AniMajor Visa Crisis Averted
"Issues on top of a pandemic are not unheard of these days. Take for example, the Chinese teams traveling to Europe, for the Dota 2. We play Anna major. They recently had their return tickets voided due to changes in European airspace. But seems of February T Master, psg.lgd off gaming and Invictus gaming saw the void of tickets also, invalidate their visa applications to the EU we play. However, was able to find a workaround and as a result, all Chinese teams will be able to fly directly to Kiev Ukraine for the Anna major. With dog's two fans saying the day was saved, thanks to a private return flight scheduled, thanks to quote unquote, tiny Airlines a rare sight to see a happy ending in regard, his visa and flight issues.
Joe Biden Statement on Hunter Biden
"To play this cut. So you know that Joe Biden has made it crystal clear that Sergeant Schultz, man, he don't know nothing about nothing about nothing. Listen to me. Listen to Joe Biden. Here. Check this out on your son. Hunter Biden. President Trump says Swee'pea Joe has real problems Remind me of crooked Hillary and over 33,000. We did e mails what the Ukraine charges about. You have been debunked and were unfair. There's one thing that a lot of Democrats even do wonder about. That is Hunter Biden. Your son was getting paid a lot of money to serve on the board of the Ukrainian energy company facing serious corruption charges. You were the vice president, running point. Ukraine, the average Joe hears that and says that sounds fishing. What's your understanding of what your son was doing for an extraordinary amount of money? I don't know what he was doing. I know he was on the board. I found out he was on the board after he's on the board. And that was it. And there's nobody. There was a lot of time. Isn't this something You want to get to the bottom of? No, because I trust my son. But that doesn't pass the smell
Senator Ron Johnson Take On Hunter Biden
"The interview by first acknowledging the incredible work you've done trying to expose the hunter Biden scandal under an onslaught of media attacks them calling you their standard, You know, Conspiracy theorist. All this other nonsense. You had been one of the voices out there saying, Hey, we've got a problem here. We've got the son of the former vice president, now president with some potential business dealings that appear shady at best. So the first question I'd like to pose to you is Joe Biden has consistently said senator on tape that he had no knowledge of what his son was up to in Ukraine, China and Russia. And yet we find out thanks to the reporting of Miranda Divine, which I'll get to later in the show today. It appears Mr Biden was at a dinner with some of these business partners. Hunter Biden had And we just saw that the report in New York Post but you know he's been outright lying. And you said, we've been trying to expose us that's almost as big a story as biting, inking the corruption of the fighting family and all their foreign business entanglements. Is the media suppression of that information, which is, from my standpoint pretty down relevant to the American public. Certainly before the excited choose a president that is gonna have to do and conduct foreign policy with all these nations that have, who knows how much information how much compromise is there? You know these business dealings, so it's an enormous scandal, Dan. It goes way beyond Across from the Biden family and really goes in the correction corruption. The media
facebook says Russia Is Still the Biggest Player in Disinformation
"Belgium disrupt cyber espionage in the wake of microsoft's recent disclosure of exchange server vulnerabilities belgium's federal public service interior launch. An investigation in march with the help of the center for cyber security belgium. The agency eventually discovered a cyber espionage campaign underway that dated back to two thousand nineteen. Although it's unclear if the campaign was related to experts in the exchange vulnerabilities that triggered the investigation authorities characterize the damage from the campaign as a limited and contained despite existing for years the operators had sabir capacities and extensive resources with timing. That suggests a state actor. Facebook says russia is still the largest producer of misinformation. This comes from a new report. The company released this week detailing how the platform disrupted one hundred. Fifty different disinformation operations overall. Facebook claims to have uncovered disinformation campaigns in more than fifty countries. Since twenty seventeen aside from russia iran myanmar the united states and ukraine were the most identified originating countries of disinformation operations while the united states ukraine britain libya and sudan were the most frequently targeted. Facebook isn't just taking actions against misinformation campaigns however the company announced a new system that reduce distribution of all posts from individual accounts that routinely share misinformation. This policy had previously been in place for pages and groups but has now extended to individual accounts. What's absues over indian. It laws these laws were originally passed in february and effective on may twenty six. The law requires messages to be put traceable database to identify unlawful content. This would require what's up to no longer offer end to end encrypted messaging in order to be compliant. What's up to the. Laws are unconstitutional and a violation of citizens rights to the preservation of privacy comparing the traceability requirement of the law to mass surveillance
Kremlin Tempers Expectations for Putin-Biden Summit in June
"The Kremlin's seeking to temper expectations for next month's summit between Russian president Vladimir Putin I'm president Joe Biden in Geneva Putin spokesman Dmitry Peskov warns against anticipating of research after the June sixteen summit emphasizing the differences between Moscow and Washington run too deep Peskov adds it hauled to expect that it would be possible to reach understanding on disagreements join just one meeting Russia's ties with the US and its allies have sunk to post Cold War lows of the rushes twenty fourteen an extension of Ukraine's Crimea it's support for separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine Moscow's interference with election I'm very S. hacking attacks I'm Charles de Ledesma
Rick Gates being charged in Russia investigation
"Check it out. So I told you before the break. I was going to get to this clip here. This is Rick Gates, who used to work on the Trump campaign as well. When he's on CNN. He confronts Jake tapper about this is well, this talking point that you have to be able to debunk immediate with your friends. And no. Maybe Trump didn't collude with the Russians. But Paul Manafort definitely did He dealt with this guy constantly, Kalinic. Except for the fact that constant clinic was an Obama administration source. So Gates it's Jake Tapper Jake tapper on it and says, Hey, you got any evidence about that? Check this out. It was very clear through State Department cables from the U. S embassy in Kiev that Constantine was also a high value asset of the United States government. He was providing information to the United States government. On a host of information that was coming of Ukraine as well as other countries that I'm not even aware of the Senate intelligence just to say that there was a Russian operative. That's according to the Senate, the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee that's not from the media. That's from the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee. That's correct. But where's the evidence? There's been no evidence to the contrary. And more importantly, why did they include the evidence that does exist, which is the State Department cables? U. S. State Department officials. Recording exactly what they did and didn't do with Mr Clinic. Yeah, That's kind of a good question, right? If Kalim nix this big time Russian spy Manafort was dealing with And why was he dealing with the Obama State Department? And why haven't we seen that information? Because the Obama State Department has all that. Why have we seen them? Because we live with a bunch of dishonest, You know, fools, and the media can't seem to get the story right
E.U. Agrees to Impose Sanctions on Belarus
"The european union is still attempting to calibrate the punishment appropriate to the state ordered hijacking of civilian airliner flying between two of its capitals in response to bert belarus's bewildering excursion into air piracy. On sunday the eu has banned belarusian from european skies and promised further sanctions roman protest the belarusian journalists removed from the ryanair aircraft. After it was forced to land in minsk has appeared in video apparently under some giresse non joined with more on this alex culture of risk analyst focused on russia ukraine belarus and eurasia at h. s. market alex. First of all a bill. Russian state media is reporting the order to crown. The plane was directly from president lukashenko's. So it's clear that he wants to be associated with this action isn't yet clear to the rest of us what he thinks he's doing a won't think from perspective of lukashenka it's clearly a very successful Operation by special forces In which they into subsets A person who from Soup from november last year was on the belarussian list of known terrorists so This is probably his way of thinking. We managed to get Ah terrorist and get him detained and And now he will face He will face punishment
"ukraine" Discussed on Impeachment: A Daily Podcast
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"ukraine" Discussed on Impeachment: A Daily Podcast
"So why isn't somebody doing something about it People have sued Congress sued. Those cases are making their way through the courts. I don't think they're going to become part of impeachment and I do think there is a case for just making impeachment narrow and clearer and sticking to one message about it Emily Republicans today are expressing outrage about some of the phone records included food in the house. Intelligence Committee Democrats impeachment report. The Adam Schiff report released on Tuesday because it contains records of what phone numbers burs Devon Nunez and Rudy Giuliani for example. Were talking to. In a number of cases The Republicans are raising fourth amendment. Search and and seizure concerns. They describe it as Adam. Schiff doing what he's accusing. Trump of using government power to target political enemies. Here's and Senator Rand Paul talking about this and I'm alarmed the abuse of power by Adam Schiff. Did you see yesterday. It was released that he's actually spying on other members of Congress and journalists using his subpoena power to get their phone calls. This is a this is exactly what he's accusing the president of using the power. We're of government to go after political opponents. This should never happen. And I'm going to work hard to make sure that in the future people Adam Schiff do not have the power to abuse government to go after their political rivals. Senator Rand Paul Republican of Kentucky on Fox. Emily do they have a point on this. Well I mean there's like a global question about the rules for getting this kind of phone call data which let's be clear we're talking about a log of who you called what you said on the phone. The power to do that comes from Nineteen Seventies Supreme Court opinion. You have to get a warrant. So there's that and congressional Warren Is Different From a Warren in a court. So you know if you're a strong civil libertarian. The Way Rand Paul is the idea that Congress could go to. At and T.. Or whoever the AH phone provider was and get this information. Yeah that could seem like an alarming intrusion and they didn't get a search want to do it. I understand from mcchord. The law allowed them to do that. And Senator Paul didn't allege it was illegal buddy alleged it was unethical and an abuse of power that was targeting. I think people for political reasons. The evidence indicates Giuliani was calling the whitehouse. Possibly the budget office. Though that detail now seems unclear but in any me case it was around when some of these Ukraine questions were being decided and the budget. Office's apparently where the military aid got stopped there are other questions about Ukrainians Nunez was talking to Parnasse indicted now for. US campaign finance violations in support of Ukrainian business people to get ambassador. Marie Ivanovich to try it was Nunez involved with. That is one of the questions. I'm just curious what you make of the substance of the fact that you know these phone records indicate the conversations that the indicate then. I don't think it's definitive proof. But it's suggestive right. It means that there were these communications going on among people. All who were all involved in The actions you were just talking about and why else would Guiliani calling the O.. M. B. But to talk to them about the the possibility of freezing this military aid or something else to do with Ukraine. And he's not a government official. So what's he doing having that kind of role. These are the questions right right. And yes when Giuliani's case it's because he's not a government official. What is the president's private lawyer doing calling Owen? Be If it turns out that he was actually calling to mess around and when military gets released to Ukraine and Endeavour Nunez's case If he's talking to let Parnasse like Giuliani was always always always talking to let Parnasse and has been indicted for illegally using foreign influence to get Marie Ivanovich fired was Nunez is in on that plot so the plot thickens exactly and obviously for Nunez to be there as part of the Intelligence Committee but also implicated is located. You know that's like a classic conflict of interest or dual role that when one wonders about I wanNA play the angry Joe Biden moment from from yesterday and get your thoughts. He's at a campaign stop in Iowa and a guy says Biden sent his son used. The word sent sent his his son to work in Ukraine and accused Biden of quote selling access to the president presumably meaning access to President Obama for the company. Burris Ma and Biden got mad. Here's the exchange and listeners. You'll hear the The Guy is is not on Mike so well you'll hear Biden Leiden better but you get the idea. It's.
"ukraine" Discussed on Impeachment: A Daily Podcast
"This is impeachment a daily podcast from WNYC. I'm Brian Lehrer. It's Friday December six. Here's a decision for the Democrats that you might think they've already made by now. What is impeachment actually about well Speaker Pelosi? It's about Ukraine right. This isn't about Russia. Who benefited by our withholding tolling withholding of that military assistance show was about Russia? Sometimes people say well. I don't know about Ukraine. I don't that much about Ukraine. Low our adversary in this is Russia. All Roads Lead to Putin understand that Speaker Pelosi yesterday Saturday at a news conference. It's not about Ukraine. It's about Russia but that came shortly after. The speaker said this in announcing that an abusive power our articles of impeachment will now be drawn up. The facts are uncontested. The president abused his power for his own personal political benefit it at the expense of our national security by withholding military aid and crucial Oval Office meeting in exchange for an announcement of an investigation Gatien into his political rival. Well that sounds like it's about Ukraine. The president abused his power for his own personal benefit at the expense of our national security by withholding the military aid and a crucial Oval Office meeting in exchange for an announcement investigation into his political rival Ukraine. Of course impeachment could be about Russia and Ukraine. Nine it could also be about a monument and the hush money ruling stealing from charity. Admission last month in court and obstructing justice and threatening a new civil war is that an act of treason. But how broad. How narrow should they make? These articles of impeachment are supposed to be finished in just a few days. So we'll talk about that and other impeachment news now with Emily Basil on New York Times Magazine Staff Writer. SLATE POLITICAL GAP fest. co-host lecturer and senior research scholar at the Yale Law School and author of the book which seems to land on another best of two thousand nineteen list every day called charged the movement to transform inform American prosecution and end. Mass incarceration happy Friday. Emily thanks for coming on Brian. How much do you hear those two Pelosi statements from yesterday s contradictory or how much as part of a cohesive whole the Russia? Ukraine question doesn't seem to me to be a contradiction because because we're talking about the United States relationship with Russia and Ukraine and Russia's role as an aggressor in the in Ukraine a couple of years ago and the American response wants to that. I do think though the other questions raised about the breadth of impeachment are still kind of hanging on there for the Democrats. There are a lot of of ways in which they could argue. That trump has abused his power. Emoluments is one you can go back to some of the aspects of the Muller investigation if you WanNa go oh there and then the question is whether that's a mistake and it's better to stick with this easier to comprehend story about truly comes down to trying to use US foreign influence to steal the election or cheat on the election is it sort of politics versus history. Like I think the tension is real between wing making the strongest possible narrow case for clarity of communication to the public. He shook down Ukraine to help. Corrupt the twenty twenty election clear. And then there's the broader case which is what history might record a hundred years from now. He engaged in a pattern of abusing his power for personal gain witch Richard from beginning to end. Also benefited our adversary Russia which he knew is trying to destabilise American democracy but then our cases much more concrete. So I'm curious for you. Who are both the research scholar and a lawyer? Would it be right to say you can relate to this tension between what useful in the real the world right now and what's the deepest possible understanding for the long run. Yeah I think that's a good way to frame it. I mean I guess in a lawyer Lee Way. I've been thinking about the tension between okay if you frame articles of impeachment and you make them narrow have you just said everything else was okay and is that a problem right right because then you sort of excused for the future as you were putting it a pattern of conduct which. Maybe we shouldn't excuse me. I could imagine a top line nine statement that allows a lot of flexibility underneath. That says something like. He abused his power by buying and selling influence with foreign countries ace for his own political gain than abused his power again to try to cover it up. That's pretty direct Excuse me in clear. I think then they could fill in the particulars that they think they can use to prove it to the public right and then today something like for example which then makes makes it more concrete them to lay out the specifics but also kinda hedges and suggests that well there could be other examples out there wrote and since they're in this actual articles of impeachment. righting moment I looked up the Bill Clinton articles of impeachment. For just this question and as you know there were four of them originally and they seem to go with a general accusation of the abuse and then a numbered list of particular so for example article. One John was Clinton has willfully corrupted and manipulated the judicial process of the United States for his personal gain there's personal gain again for his personal gain and exoneration honoration impeding the administration of Justice and then number one the nature that says perjury and then number one the nature and details of his his relationship with a subordinate government employees. Monica Lewinsky number two. They're numbered number. Two prior perjury. Perjury is false and misleading testimony. He gave in a federal civil rights. Action Paula Jones brought against him three prior false and misleading statements. He allowed his attorney to make to a federal judge. Then there was a fourth one too so overarching charge followed by specific alleged instances. Do you think it will probably go like that. Yeah I mean that makes sense senses way to frame it right. And for Clinton by the time of impeachment there was perjury and obstruction and it was like pretty clear I think right eight I mean it's not like Republicans approved of other things he did but that's what they were focused on. I noticed how many New Yorkers and Californians are leading leading this article drafting process. The committee chairs involved are off from the two states. Unless I'm missing something jerrold Nadler from New York. City is the Judiciary Ashari Committee chair. Carolyn Maloney Chas the oversight committee. She's from New York. City Eliot Engel chairs the Foreign Affairs Committee maxine waters and Adam Schefter from California chair finance and intelligence respectively. I think those are all the committees. Draw up the articles of impeachment. And it's really the chairs who Pelosi says they're doing it. Pelosi is from California too so the articles of impeachment may not be bipartisan. But they will be bicoastal. Yeah that's a good point as a Resident of Connecticut. I guess I should feel kind of left out. And certainly the Republicans can make some Hay with the lack of representation from anywhere other than the two coasts. Yeah but you get too many senators and too many electoral votes. The next public hearing is scheduled for Monday in the Judiciary Committee. They're saying presentation tation of evidence by lawyers for certain committees from both parties. How clear is it to you? What will happen on Monday? I think we will hear this. All laid out in concrete terms. We had a day this week of lawyer of law professors really making more abstract constitutional arguments for and kind of against impeachment or at least against the process. The Democrats are using for impeachment. That was from Jonathan Turley who was the Republicans law professor representative. So now. I think we're going to turn into the specifics and some of the questions you and I were just talking about how you frame this. What facts do you emphasize how clear a case can you make For people who watch the public hearings in the intelligence committee they know the Democratic Staff Attorney. Daniel Goldman Oldman and Republican staff attorney. Steve Caster who questioned the witnesses. All those witnesses. Colonel Vin men Fiona Hill. All of them. Is it going to be like oral arguments then almost like at the Supreme Court. These attorneys now argue. That can be the ones answering the questions. No new fact witnesses but lawyers the presenting oral arguments. Yeah I think it will be more like that. I'm not sure how much the members of Congress will be able to interrupt the other decide whether it's still going to be conducted in kind of question answer form or whether lawyers will be able to speak uninterrupted for longer periods of time The Supreme Court has actually adopted a new rule where they're trying to let lawyers talk a little bit at least at the top before they start going at them and the idea is that makes for a more coherent presentation. Asian let's take a phone call Diana in Manhattan you're on WNYC with Emily Basilan. Hi Diana Hi yes hi Ryan I wanted to say first people. I don't see the contradiction on what on as you said that And I do think we need to highlight the national security issue In the impeachment proceedings By withholding military aid from crane is dealing with Russia as an aggressor so that affects us as Russia expanding is potentially than a greater ah threat to us His weaken our relationship with NATO That jeopardizes our national security. Also his I don't know if this is impeachable that his not protecting appointing people who are actually opposite of the their their responsibility that he points you whose interests are financial rather than actually with their what they're supposed to super example in our environment We are getting more dangerous insecure You know toxic environment. He's not protecting us He's also threatening getting the the democracy by all his obstruction of justice. All his assumptions of His lying he's Threatening the freedom of press this is the fourth estate he's by by condemning. The press so much and and trying to still so so much a lack of faith in them and confusion so that's throwing offer democracy which depends on trust in a free press and an objective. Press Supernet Diana. I think you are titillating. The tension perfectly. which is that for you? And so many other Americans people's hair is on fire there are on fire. What's your hair is on fire? People's hair is on fire. Because you think he's you know attacking our democracy and in corrupting it and turning it into an authoritarian form of government to the extent that he can in so many ways but then it starts to lose people with their eyes glazing over in a haze when we list so many things right right. I don't know whether it actually helps her. Not so that's a judgment for others but I do think we need to. I think these are really important that that the large large weather. Gop understand that things that we take for granted our freedom so the way democracy functions Our security in the world. I think these are you know our water quality of our water and other aspects of our environment. I think these are so important than they are part of his responsibilities president so perhaps we can because they all fit a single theme that he's he's not helping this country even though he keeps saying it's better than ever Diana. Thank you so much 'cause again and Judy and port Washington you're on WNYC. Hi Judy thank you. What I WANNA simple emoluments? It's I want to add enough information about how public money our tax money is going into his pockets. It doesn't come up nearly enough every time. The secret service go to mar-a-lago money for their room their food their drink their golf cart. Whose pocket does it go into including in the context of Ukraine? Let's say Hunter Biden Beta million dollars. There who's pocket does it go into Hunter Biden's whereas everywhere that Donald Junior goes. WHO's pocket does it go into? Well his pockets are still attached to his father's because trump senior never divested so I think think American citizens can understand. Follow the money. Judy thank you very much. Emily do you think they will go to a monument. Do you think they should go to emoluments. I think they won't in this impeachment context. I understand why people are so frustrated about this and I also think it's it is kind of simple You know it's like well. We have this clause in the constitution that says the CON- The president can't accept gifts from is really from foreign agents to emoluments clause but that's like the Clear one and it seems like that's happening..
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"Impeachment daily podcast from WNYC. I'm the Mirror it's Friday October twenty fifth and what did the president know and when did he know we know it a New York Times story says the answer to that question appears to explode part of trump's defense against the charge of extortion or bribery that the MPG inquiry is looking at so call today segment meanwhile back in Ukraine with journalist Julia Yaffe National Security and foreign policy correspondent for Gee Q. Formerly of the Atlantic and The New Yorker Russian born American raised among her recent articles and explainer on why Ukraine pops up been so many scandals and she has a forthcoming book with the title Russia Girl Julia thanks so much for some time and your expertise today thanks for coming on thank you so much for having me let's start with this headline and then we'll dig deeper on the scandal from Ukraine more than a Washington perspective trump defense is that he couldn't have been offering a quid pro quo of US military aid to Ukraine and exchange for investigating Democrats this summer because Ukraine didn't know the aid was withheld until September but the time says it has documents showing Ukraine new in early August so how much if at all do you think that difference in time line matters is to the fate of this investigation well I think it matters a great deal on I would just add that Bill Taylor who testified this week behind closed doors and then you know liberal publications got his statement to the congressional committee he testified in front of said that the Ukrainians new they'd was withheld also pretty much all of August and and I think it's really important because he's Donald Trump is saying that you know they didn't know that he was just asking them for something that this was an they didn't realize was tied to the aid and therefore it's not a quid pro quo I mean they're very hung up on this you know it's not a quid pro focus the president doesn't speak Latin in the Ukrainians of course have fed into this narrative by publicly say no no of course we weren't pressured we didn't think we were being pressured and it's important to is that of course they would say that because they are still very much dependent on US aid they're still fighting russian-backed mercenaries in the he's there they're still this kind of semi Thaad conflict in the east and the Russians are watching carefully there was a story in the Times yesterday about all ways they were trying to deceive the Russians while they were waiting for the aid to show that their army was still still good and still on welfare and while supplies position has been put in right and I and Bill Taylor's testimony also really showed that they were getting really frustrated they asked him I'm at every turn basically all of August and maybe even earlier where is the aid they were trying to be polite but publicly they're you know they're they can't do that they are very much dependent on specifically Donald Trump and they're stuck with him until at least January twenty twenty one so they have to not anger happen but that's a new wrinkle of to me that I hadn't heard that makes it even that much more threatening sounding for Ukraine they actually had to spend some weeks trying to fake out Russia to make them say that their military was as prepared as it wasn't actually because is the US was holding up this aid in order to keep our country safe exactly presidents Alinsky never did announce these investigations of the Biden's or of the twenty Sixteen election interference that trump was pushing pushing for his alinsky to announce publicly pushing so hard as has been documented in these recent witness testimony sessions do you know why he never did actually take that step and announce the investigations that trump wanted well it seems like again it hasn't gotten as much coverage as it should have because of all the things that happened this week but bill Taylor's testimony in Congress really was explosive and people who heard it said as much and the the the statement really is just a continual jaw dropper as you read it and he said that he church talk to presidents Alinsky and various people around him to get them to commit to not making this announcement that this was something they were happy you any way because they were themselves feeling very uncomfortable about being used as pawns in domestic American Politics Bill Taylor you said that he tried to impress upon them that you know Ukraine has been a bipartisan issue. Probably keep it that way if you want American and I think the Ukrainians understood that themselves I think they were you know the aid was released September finally without notifying the Ukrainians at just suddenly was released Asia and I think they were probably relieved then this month Ukraine did announce some kind of new audit of burris Ma the company Hunter Biden was on the board can you tell if this is a phony investigation to satisfy trump I don't I don't know but here's the thing is is my is a very opaque company there's it seems like there's a lot to investigate and it's they should probably be investigated but I'm not I'm not sure that this is related to the trump along the prosecutor who Joe Biden help to get fired Victor Shokhin I think the big lie here from the trump side as far as we know is that Shokhin was gonna Bust Burris for something that would be bad for Hunter Biden somehow and Joe Biden was out to protect him and that's why the Obama Administration and oh by the way all of western Europe wanted Victor Shokhin out how far is that say and Republicans in Congress let's just add let's just add so how how far is that from the truth based on your knowledge of Shokhin in Ukraine was he on the warpath against Burris my and was he fired to protect Joe Biden no and no is the short answer the longer answer is that one of the reasons he was quietest he wasn't investigating that he was not looking into these corruption cases including bury's Ma so the fact that Joe Biden played the bad cup for everybody else's good cop including Republicans in Congress I just want to underline is that he opened his son up in fact to investigation by firing this guy who wasn't investigating Burris my who refused to investigate burris Ma and many other corruption cases I mean at the obsession with Burris Ma is is interesting because it's just there's so many things to investigate in Ukraine gene especially in the natural gas sector which is an extremely corrupt sector of the economy with close ties to Russia which is one of the reasons it's so corrupt it's just you know it's a small piece of the corruption puzzle there once the withholding of the military aid was going to be made public by the media in September because of the CIA whistleblower complaint only then did the trump administration released the to Ukraine. Do you think that's important to the plot here and did it take all the pressure off Zilenski to get mixed up in the trump campaign yeah I think that's very important it just underscores the extent to which the this is an internal political game for the president and that he only released bipartisan approved congressionally approved aid to Ukraine that is not supposed to be tied to our domestic politics again because it's in the national security interest in America to do this he had it tied in his mind explicitly to this thing that he wanted the Ukrainians to do for him here domestically in the US to go after his political enemies that only when this was going to be exposed here mystically did he release it again I I keep bringing up bill Taylor's testimony but it's a fantastic read I have to say if your listeners want to go and read it a bunch of news organizations have it up but it is just it does document kind of a blow by blow of how the trump administration was tying the aid and you know we're focusing on the eight here but there was also they were dangling a White House visit for presidents scheme tying it to this all kinds of things they were trying to bringing in the Ukrainian president kind of a into his battle against Joe Biden can you give us GEICO presidents Alinsky you write that he was elected as a corruption fighter and to stand up to Russia it also sounds from your earlier answer like he who is willing to stand up to the United States not go along with this trump's game because he didn't WanNa look to his own people like he was upon of US politics but you're right that he's also linked to one of the country's most rich and powerful oligarchs so is he the corruption fighter of his reputation the answer is we don't know yet he was just elected the summer and not a lot of time has passed the jury still out there are some promising signs homeboy ski this oligarch bet is close to as Lonski and it seems like the signals Alinsky is sending out is that he's going to go along with the scheme to let Komansky re-privatized the bank after it was bailed out by the Ukrainian government it's a long and messy story that would is kind of a bellwether on whether or not he serious about separating himself from this oligarch and really going after corruption on that score it seems like he's leaning toward not going after too hard but we'll see it's only been a few months and I think now the world is watching to see whether he will go after corruption in part because of what Donald Trump has dragged him into and it looks like Americans who have these questionable ties to pro Russia Ukrainians are not just Republicans we know pull me on a four it is in prison for illegal dealings around the former Pro Russia president of Ukraine Yanukovych Obviously Manafort was a Republican strategist for from two thousand Sixteen Tad Devine also had previously just been working for Yanukovych why is there so much money to be made by American political consultants in such right well exactly it's you know there's huge wealth disparities there but in fact Ukraine is not a poor country in terms of resources and agriculture it could be you know a wealthy country but it is very corrupt in the wealth inequality there is tremendous but the reason that there is so much like Barista for example wanted to you know a very shady privately owned company very opaque wanted to head global ambitions for that or Tad Devine who asked for ten thousand dollars a day plus travel back in two thousand fourteen when he was considering a job they're just you can't make that of money and in we're just about out of time but back to Washington for minute you keep talking how about how explosive the bill Taylor testimony was the other day and we've been going over on this show some of the other witnesses who are trump appointees and yet have given such damning testimony and yet republic kinzer pushing for the impeachment hearings to be made public as if it's a big scandal that they're happening behind closed doors even though both House Democrats in House Republicans are in the room and able to ask questions but I keep thinking what are you crazy when public hearings do start which they reportedly will next month soon at W._n._y._C. 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"ukraine" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Is is corrupt. Five years ago we had people protesting against a secretive regime of Victorian coverage said we had to begin with Ukraine's former the president twenty four Ukrainians sick of corruption revolted three hundred which the president ran away to Russian and emitted after that we started focusing on assets recovery of process of corruption of Yanukovych and this it's time where I have started observing booties. Ma Ma is deleting independent exploration and production company operating in the Ukrainian the oil and gas market. You might recall Barista as the company that gave Hunter Biden a cushy Gig but he's not the company is owned by former minister of natural resources of Viktor Yanukovych and criminal investigation against Burris. Mom One was crucially important in order to recover millions of dollars which McCullough's from Ukraine Barista is basically Glee Ukrainian for shady gasoline in April two thousand fourteen twenty three point five million dollars were seized by British law enforcement officers at the Council of this company in order to recover this access to Ukraine British law enforcement needed evidence that this money are automated origin and this evidence has to be produced by Ukrainian law. Enforcement Agency were victor shocking gene. The tough prosecutor Junaini likes and prison trump likes had to deliver this evidence. Shokhin is is this prosecutor trump likes to say Biden had fired to benefit his son hunter even though there's no evidence of that and there was no no will and no desire under the leadership of victory shocking to pursue the case and to develop the case it was obvious for everyone who wanted to help Ukraine to recover esus that shocking was dumping this investigation and that will protested newer doing then menu rallies in front of shocking office and in front of buildings of president of Ukraine demanding resignation of the SHILPA IT turns out a lot of Ukrainians wanted shokhin fired. I was protesting. Many other organizations. Were protesting testing. We are here now. Ask our president what the hell going on color nuke leasing under corruption watchdog NGO allow him to maintain detained the Soviet system of prosecution which intimidates people and then afterwards Joe Biden came. This is the genesis of the trump conspiracy right here vice president. Joe Biden went to Kiev to help the new government. You have to fight the corruption and Oscar president per Shankar fire shocking because he was considered by everyone is very corrupt person who dumped many investigations including the case Burris said. I'm telling you not getting billion dollars. I said you're not getting a billion believing here. I think it was what six hours I look leaving mm six hours. If the prosecutors not fired you're not getting the money and that's what we were so happy that Joe Biden came and actually made a very tough condition that iser you present version of fire chucking or there will be no financial eight one billion financial eight thus far. There's just no evidence against this had anything to do with Biden's son. This was about getting rid of a divisive Ukrainian prosecutor Victor Shokhin so when i read the transcript of the phone cold between president trump unprecedented Lansky and that phone call. I heard that there was a very good guy a tough prosecutor shocking. I couldn't believe that because shocking was actually the example of one of the worst prosecutors V had and who was intimidating good people in his agency who was dumping investigations including breeze might last Gatien so I was embarrassed to have president of the United States Senate in such a credit to such a corrupt prosecutor but I understand so excellently now why why he was doing that. It's a case that is crying out to be investigated. If it doesn't get investigated we just don't have equal justice in this this country and it was the narrative coming from Dooney. Johnnie Rudy loves this conspiracy. Biden's son took millions of dollars out of the Ukraine. Well Joe Biden as vice president and Joe Bragged two years later that he got the prosecutor general fired. He just left out of it that the prosecutor general was investigating. His son and his sons crooked boss. That's Sir conspiracy theory which was presented by religion. onny needs shocking who wanted to investigate burris. Shokhin it appears was not terribly interested in investing Barista and here is where the conspiracy spiracy theory from Rhodesia landfalls apart so this White House conspiracy theory must seem kind kind of insane to Ukrainians who thought shocking was totally corrupt thought. Barista was totally corrupt. Most of the Ukrainians don't understand and what is happening and they don't understand how American system works but I couldn't believe that the president of the United Estates Code the President of Ukraine asking to interview into work of law enforcement agency in Ukraine because this is something that we are trying to change in Ukraine for the last five years the idea behind our anti corruption efforts forts is that law enforcement and judiciary system in Ukraine has to be free from political interference and free from oligarchy interference since the United States was our key parter in this work so it was very depressing for me to read that hat fund cold transcripts. I think we hear a lot about trump's tone and his tactics during that call. How did you feel about Presidents Alinsky tone and his approach to dealing with President President trump. I was disappointed as well. He was trying to agrees Everson. President trump was telling him and there was only one message from him which I can understand he asked for help in war is Russia. He asked for Javelin 's as he at that time already understood that there's something wrong as military eight which was scheduled to be sent to Ukraine but was stopped at certain moment right presidents. Alinsky was in this awkward position because he needs something from president trump and we kind of saw him in that awkward position again last week at at the United Nations General Assembly when they gave this joint press conference and he was asked if he was pressured by president trump in front of president trump and he said said no because of course he had to say no no cure that we had I think good phone call to US normal. We spoke about many seeings and so I think you read it that nobody push push me. Yes lose the way how you said that the. UN Assembly was very talented because I he said I'm sorry but I don't want to be involved involved two we wouldn't elections elections of USA. No I think that prisons and ends keep was was trying to avoid taking an picking sites in American political battle Ukrainian journalists and Ukrainian citizens is care about war and how to end war and achieve peace and this is the topic now in Ukraine. It's it's like we are leaving in parallel worlds so the perception of this scandal in the United States in Ukraine is absolutely different because we have different problems he can were you have trump presence and were he had to deal up this trump so I can understand him that war this is today split.
"ukraine" Discussed on Today, Explained
"You've heard about the phone call. You've skimmed the partial transcript but maybe this whole time. You've just wanted to hear the president. Say it and today is your day so I would. I would say that presidents Alinsky. If it were me I would recommend that they start an investigation into the Biden's because nobody has any doubt that they weren't crooked. That was a crooked deal. One hundred percent Ya that's the sound of the presidents of the United States as a foreign in country to help take down his political rival from the South Lawn of the White House. No less an impeachment inquiry is evidently not enough to deter President Donald trump from what he really wants dirt on Joe and Hunter Biden from Ukraine likewise. China started investigation into the by because what happened in China is just about as bad as what happened with with Ukraine. We called Daria Colony UC in Kiev to find out what it's like for Ukrainians to find themselves in the center of an American impeachment scandal. I'm executive director of the UNDAY Corruption Action Santa and what does that mean. We are doing what you dog work our government and our we expose corruptions and we advocate for change asked her to tell me as best she could how this mess with Hunter Biden in Ukraine got started started very important to talk about corruption. If you don't talk about corruption why would you give money.
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"ukraine" Discussed on Trump, Inc.
"This brings us to the central subject of Giuliani's Janis campaign. It's the idea that the Democrats and some Ukrainians interfered in the twenty sixteen election in Hillary Clinton's favor they did this in Giuliani's Janis version of events by forging a document. The so-called Black Ledger that showed secret payments from Yanukovych's party to Paul Manafort. Remember Manafort is serving prison time because of the trail of corruption Robert Muller uncovered beginning with those payments he took from Yanukovych which bank fraud tax fraud money laundering conspiracy against the United States but Guiliani says the black ledger is a fake nick. Here's Giuliani a May twenty nineteen interview on Fox News pointing a finger at a man named Saturday this Kinko. He's not the prosecutor Lukashenko. Their names are similar found to be involved in assisting the Democrats with the two thousand sixteen election gentleman. I'll give you his name filming only by the name of your just let me let me finish a gentleman by the name of La Shaneco. Yes who supplied a black book that was found to be fraudulent solent never used because it was a fraudulent incriminating statement. That was totally untrue. Of course it's not fraud. It's real document men and of course I'm not enemy of American government. I know intervened interfered in American elections in Kiev. I spoke to the man man who helped to bring the black ledger to light Sergei Chanko. He's an investigative. Journalist and former member of parliament met him in a cafe in a hip part of the city. It is part of conspiracy credit by Giuliani conspiracy theory which is not based on relevance in real information. Because Blake Ledger Joe went through expertise in Ukraine and expect is proved that it's real document and signatures of people sign of this book real but to construct conspiracy theory Giuliani was looking for some information which can mainly be responsible and accused decided to spin this. It's fake fake pleasure and so on a string is extremely tall with thick framed glasses. He turns forty next year. Let's check. Oh says to promote remote his theory. Rudy Giuliani seized on the fact that an administrative court found less ching-kuo acted illegally in Publicizing the Black Ledger Giuliani ignored nor the fact that the ruling was overturned on appeal bill stopped the decision in July this year but it did not stop Giuliani and he continued saying Dan this fraud by casting doubt on the Black Ledger Rudy Giuliani is trying to rewrite history. Paul manafort in Rudy's telling is transformed from a political Michael technologist who profited from corrupt system and cheated on his taxes into the victim of a sinister anti-trump plot a plot that eventually led to Robert Muller's colors investigation but for Ukrainians Manafort's role even in the shadows can't be erased. Check our calls something that happened a dozen years ago as a reporter in Switzerland to cover the corrupt politician Viktor Yanukovych Paul Manafort was there. Let's check. Oh made contact does that time. Prime Minister Yanukovych traveled to Davos in Switzerland Engine World Economic Forum and Manafort came to listen personally and he appeared together with Ukrainian Sekondi Annetta Smith who hire it Manafort Manafort Akhmetov is the patron who I engaged Paul manafort services all those years ago after he lost control of the Steel Plant and I came to Manafort with the question. May you record into with me. She said no interview at all and it's my friends. What did you know about Paul Manafort at the time. It was not a secret that he works for Yanukovych a huge mysterious person doing during ten years. He made no interview at all zero but everybody was away. He walks closure. If Paul Manafort's actions are obscured in America if he's seen as a victim cheng-kuo says that will have a chilling effect on the people who are pushing to make Ukraine more democratic open and fair whistle blowers or anti corruption activists you ready to fight against the system to provide this information now will remember what happened with people like me are like and and talk leader who under pressure for the last four years and they will decides twice or triple three should they start this anti corruption of DVD or it's better to keep silence to keep is blind not to make this noise about corruption and just look of criminal problem when we started our interview the Shinco rubbing his eyes and glancing at his phone. He's been doing back to back news interviews for for days. Suddenly it seems the world is interested in what he has to say about graft disinformation foamy. It's another evidence that corruption is not just Ukrainian problem but it's global problem happened everywhere in the world and sometimes corruption. It's like a butterfly fly effect. The sultan's happened in Ukraine and to namath happened in us. Let's check. Oh has offered to testify before Congress about about his experience with the Black Ledger and the disinformation campaign.
"ukraine" Discussed on Trump, Inc.
"We are going to be talking about our TV president and his TV lawyer Rudy the Giuliani but for that story to make sense. We need to start a little earlier in the time line after communism collapsed and the Soviet Union state-owned properties like pipelines and factories were put in private hands. Everyone was supposed to benefit instead a small number of businessmen businessmen hoarded assets and became the oligarchs their fortunes depended and still depends on keeping control of Ukraine's natural resources and building monopolies and working the government. This is how how deep is this three hundred seventy. Thus incredible one big prize for the oligarchs was the largest steel mill an iron mine in northern Ukraine in a town called Krivi re. It's an overnight train ride from one machine turns solid or into glowing liquid metal at a temperature of twenty eight hundred degrees Fahrenheit then it's lifted into a giant cauldron and poured into steel bars. This is very frightening. This place is a good example of how a privatization can go wrong in two thousand four. The factory was awarded at auction not to the highest bidder a multinational company but to to Ukrainian businessman who put in a bid of just half as much money. One of them happened to be the son in law of the president. It's not like Ukrainians. Were okay with this. The sweetheart deal for the steel plant caused so much outrage it was later voided and reversed in two thousand five mill was put up for auction again in this time an international steel giant offered the most and won the oligarchs were unhappy they wanted control all of the natural resources and to get that they had to control the government and they on just the man to help them do it. A man with decades of experience supporting corrupt upped leaders across the globe Paul Manafort at at the time two thousand five eighty seven percent of Ukrainians were against the oligarchs candidate Viktor Yanukovych Manafort. Turn that that around there's a term people hear us for Manafort's profession Poli no-look political technologists Manafort did polling he tested messages he got a Kovic previously spoke coarsely and had assault and robbery convictions in his past to where a good suit they get a good haircut and speak Ukrainian because it was eastern Ukraine. He spoke Russian in two thousand ten. The oligarchs man won the presidency. Ah Paul Manafort went to work for the new leader he secretly lobbied the US government. Yennin Kovic locked up a political opponent. Then manafort hired a law firm thereto bogus report justifying her prosecution. All the while Yanukovych was stealing massive massive amounts of money from the Ukrainian people. There's a memo a manafort associate road during this period it said the number of people who admit they are having difficulty Coltie feeding their family throughout Ukraine. Today is stunning book. The people protested in February Twenty Fourteen Ukrainians ends overthrew Yanukovych. He fled by helicopter to Russia. That's when Ukrainians discovered Yanukovych is other worldly palace the House the corruption built now. It's a museum I just want to note we have left the city of Kiev and he has that's the main line road to imagine and when the road from Kiev to measure here you passes through a tangle of high-rise housing estates and shopping plazas. My Guide is Anestachio Laszlo so a tour guide based in Kia. It was really pissing people off because they were getting late and learned English as a teenager in Alaska. That's the funny Johny part. Everyone is laughing like Alaska really stunning Annetta states but while it is she also goes by Stacey really complicated to pronounce the foreigners so they called me stacy or you became Stacey in Alaska Horse. Of course the grounds of the estate are vast. There's a nine hole golf course a huge garage for Yanukovych is vintage cars and a laboratory. Tori where Lonzo says the president's food was tested to make sure it wasn't poisoned after Yanukovych fled measure here in two thousand fourteen protesters and journalists found found a trove of his financial documents dumped in the water. They drive them off in the sauna the centerpiece of this verse cy his Yanukovych's Mansion. I ask disclose. Oh if Paul Manafort has ever been here. She doesn't know and tells me I can ask the man who manages the House but she says I should divide whatever he tells me in two. I really liked that Ukrainian expression. You can divide that into that. What you say yeah yeah divided into it means like some of it can be true but some of it not but which part is true or not you know the interior walls here look like the inside of a log cabin? Almost everything else is pure opulence. What's the Sports Complex Helipad the be floating restaurant. It looks like a abode stuffed lion. Oh that is if you care about cats hats that is so depressing. Oh It's like an oxygen chamber and this is some kind of water massage so it's still this table can cost from fifty to one hundred thousand euros is usually gross in the natural conditions in the underground caves somewhere but guy wanted assault gave here on his house. Oh my God look at this coat of armor. The last known that will be the door. We'll get on it can save people get out like in silence. At the beginning they got excited and then as a result of okay. Eh People do look a little stunned as they merge into the sunshine by the summer of two thousand sixteen. ECKSTEEN MANAFORT had a new GIG after Yanukovych. He went to work running. Donald Trump's campaign. Here's an interview metaphor did in the summer of two thousand sixteen with CBS News so to be clear. Mr Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs. That's what he said. That's what I said. That's obviously look our position. As manafort was the GO-TO for campaign interviews then in August of two thousand sixteen a a story broke in the New York Times. It said Manafort was paid. Twelve point seven million dollars off the books payments from Yanukovych is political party accounts of these payments turned up in a so-called lack ledger..
"ukraine" Discussed on Trump, Inc.
"Giuliani mentioned and tack in an interview interview with Chris Cuomo on CNN in September that went viral Giovanni always I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that would Sankoh who was appointed right dismissed the case against anti profit called anti or whatever the hand was anti Kolenovic told Ilia that her group his being attacked because it's fighting corruption the reason for that is that we are actually exposing corruption schemes in Ukraine. We are exposing also Western enablers of Ukrainian KLEPTOCRATS. We're painting the S for many powerful people here but they come back has a warning for us about the way her democracy works and the direction ours is heading in well fingers crossed for American political system mm-hmm. I hope that it will not repeat mistakes Ukraine. Tell me what those mistakes are. One President Dictates prosecutor-general the general to investigate it is a big mistake. It shouldn't happen in real democracy today on trump inc how power is brought to bear on investigations into corruption in Ukraine and the United States and the tools we have to fight corruption are themselves being corrupted in the summer of twenty eighteen eighteen. The Muller investigation was bearing down Rudy Giuliani. The president's personal lawyer began talking about putting out a quote counter report that never materialized materialized. What did happen we know from the whistle blower report is that Rudy Giuliani began to reach out to current and former Ukrainian prosecutors in late twenty eighteen Giuliani was developing a counter narrative to muller arguing it was Ukraine that interfered with the two thousand sixteen election on behalf of Hillary Clinton while he was at it? Giuliani began encouraging Ukrainians to investigate Joe Biden and they seem game in the middle of this Attorney General William Bar released his summary of the Muller reports followed by the report itself days after that a new Ukrainian President Senate won the election in a landslide below. Mir Is Alinsky.
"ukraine" Discussed on Trump, Inc.
"Hello and welcome to trump inc a podcast from WNYC and PROPUBLICA that digs deep into into the business of the trump administration. I'm Andrea Bernstein in New York. Ilya Marritz is in Ukraine's capital. Kiev and you'll be hearing a lot more from him in this episode a little about how Ilia happened to be in Kiev right now how for over a year trumping crew has been talking about Ukraine the role it plays for trump and the people around him he's taken money from Ukrainian oligarchs. His former campaign manager Paul manafort worked there for a decade and went to prison because of his work there Michael Cohen has ties to the country and trump's personal attorney. Rudy Giuliani has been making appearances in Ukraine for over a decade. We kept asking ourselves Walleye. What is it about Ukraine so ILIAP Linda TRIPP months ago and as it turned out arrived right after we learned that Ukraine was the country in the mysterious whistleblower report as the story was breaking wide open billion landed ended in Kiev so this is so strange somewhere here for us us. He went there to follow a trail of corruption that started with President Trump's campaign chief Paul manafort and led to president trump's personal personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. Don't see anywhere our newspapers. Nobody's reading them not selling before we begin a note. DONALD TRUMP RUDY GIULIANI END Ukrainian politicians and prosecutors can hollow out the meaning of the words stay use corruption prosecutor cover up facts politicians in Ukraine routinely used prosecutions not as fact-finding missions but as bludgeons to destroy opponents opponents like Je Clinics Group Antioch. It's an anti-corruption. Group supported by the European Union Union.
"ukraine" Discussed on The Lawfare Podcast
"Was trying to tell trump is just as a sway. Jim and say look you know. I don't have my guide there yet yet but when I have my guy in that position yes Mr President. We will look into this. What's amazing is Cinco himself after he no longer holds the job of prosecutor general in May gives an interview to Bloomberg where she says Oh no there was investigation and in fact there was no wrongdoing coming found by one hundred byner Joe Biden any of the Biden's no violations of the law so basically sounds like a singer also promised to open investigation to appease what Giuliani wanted from him probably all those meetings and what trump is now referring to this phone call was Dolinsky but doesn't actually do anything he just says it yes. Can you help me give her this amassador. Our Open investigation I'm Quinta Jurassic and this is the Law Fair podcast October first twenty nineteen. The first two years of the trump presidency were tied up with the Russia scandal. Now there's another scandal involving Russia's next door neighbor Ukraine the revelation that president trump and his envoys pressured the Ukrainian government for information about debunked claims of Biden family corruption have brought Ukrainian domestic politics tech's onto the American stage. The Ukrainian side of this very American scandal is complicated yet vital to understanding the whistleblower complaint and the reality of what happened happened with Ukrainian prosecutor general and Joe Biden's son. I sat down with Lena Polyakova the director of the project and Global Democracy Emerging Technology Oh gee at the Brookings Institution to break it all down we discussed recent Ukrainian political developments what exactly Joe Biden did or didn't do in Ukraine and and what this might mean for the US Ukraine relationship going forward. It's the law fair podcast episode four hundred fifty seven W t f Ukraine so Alina. Let's start with the most basic question possible. What is the name of the country that we're about to discuss because a lot of Americans have been using the definite article in front of the name. We're GONNA be talking about Ukraine not the Ukraine. It's interesting interesting that we're starting with this because actually important and so in nineteen ninety three when Ukraine became an independent country outside of the Soviet Union in the government dropped or asked a foreign correspondence and other outlets as top using the because in the understanding when we use a definite article referring to a territory like you know the northern plains right or the south and so refers it implies that there is a piece of land that is currently being occupied or controlled in this context by Russia used to be controlled obviously see by the Soviet Union Ukraine has been a sovereign country for quite some time and so the correct usage is just Ukraine and Ukrainians is get very annoyed when people put the in front yes. It is kind of a cringe factor. If you ever hear a Western policymakers speaking to group of Ukrainians economists feel cringe spread across the room if they say the because it also implies that the person speaking doesn't actually know anything about the country they're talking about so it's a pretty basic thing to understand that when you're talking about a country usually during the definite article call especially don't use a in this highly highly sensitive political context and the sensitive political context that you mentioned gets to one of the big pieces that I think Americans sort of new to understand to understand the connection between Ukraine and Russia right so just walk me through how Ukraine sees its relationship with Russia and how Russia sees its relationship with Ukraine right so I'll try to do a brief history of the last twenty something years Ukraine Russia relations in about two minutes so basically Ukraine used to be part of the Soviet Union knows that Ukrainian Soviet republic little known fact is that it was actually in the nineteen fifties. Crimea became part of Ukraine. We we say that now but it was all the same countries Soviet Union so the time it didn't really matter if Crimea was part of Ukraine or Russia because these are all just part of a much larger country so new cream green becomes independent in in the early nineteen nineties after the fall of the Berlin Wall dissolution of the Soviet Union is still has a lot of economic relationships just basically Jessica transport relationships a- Russia because the entire Soviet infrastructure the industrial infrastructure was developed with the notion that all the countries are part of the Slovenian made up one single block so we're talking about gas exports for example. There's a reason why all of Russia's gas experts go to the two three Ukraine to on the way to your because this was the most direct route when we talk about you know trade in weapons systems are the entire military industrial complex was fully integrated between Russia and Ukraine and then families were fully integrated between Russia and Ukraine so loud family and Russian rice versa. I'm so it's been a really painful. It's cutting a limb off. I think from the Russian perspective when we fast forward a little bit two thousand four when we we have the first revolution Ukraine now called Orange Revolution where you couldn't go the streets to protest a fraudulent election outcome and the Kremlin Crumlin favorite this name I sound familiar Viktor Yanukovych gets kind of basically pushed out because the elections are recognized as being rod and not free and you Shinko Victoria Chicago the time prevails and becomes President in Oh four. That's the first revolution in Ukraine and that is the first sign line that this previously very tight relationship between Ukraine and Russia. was hitting a certain climax and it wasn't it couldn't really go go on as it had been going on faster ten more years and we get the second revolution ten years later because after two thousand four you shouldn't government doesn't it doesn't get done what Ukrainians wanted to get done meeting weeding out corruption getting rid of the oligarchs system which is also fully integrated with Russia the intelligence agencies agencies are fully integrated Russia in a way that doesn't serve Ukraine when we come to two thousand thirteen two thousand fourteen and we get another set of protest against who again Victor Yanukovych he in the meantime Kinda resurrects himself as a reformer a western pro-western leader by the way with the help uh of Paul Manafort who helps Yanukovych get reelected in two thousand ten. There's yet another revolution against him. That we call now the Euro my don revolution the Ukrainians call this the revolution of dignity which is how they prefer for it to be called in fact in the West as well and then we get ed patrol. Persian go becomes the president of Ukraine following the ousting of victory undercover who still hiding out in Russia and fast fast forward. We have elections in Ukraine now. The sheer and Shinko now loses pretty significant way in pretty embarrassing pursing way to somebody named Zilenski a television comedian very popular in Russia's well who has a very popular show in which he plays a schoolteacher who becomes an accidental president now of course you know in a way of reality replicating fiction we have Zilenski excuse to play president. TV become president real life and here we are we have president's alinsky dreamers. Keen Ukraine are former television actor. You're a comedian comes out the blue huge landslide victory over petro per Shaneco and a few months later we get these interesting phone calls so let me ask you a little more about Dolinsky before we get into the details of this phone call between him and trump. What is it about him that that vaults him to this unexpected expected victory. What is it that he's campaigning on. The people find attractive well. What's interesting is that he doesn't really campaign on anything. this may sound familiar to a lot of Americans meaning that he doesn't really have policy proposals or a vision for Ukraine he basically creates a new movement called Servant of the people which is the name of his very popular comedy show and at that point meaning this past spring in April which is when the presidential elections happen in a partial goes rose. WHO's the incumbent and the time his approval ratings are just dismal single digits and they've been in the single digits for a long time increasingly the has to do with the fact doc that Ukrainians are frustrated. They're not seeing change you know people died on the streets in Kiev during the my son Revolution Twenty thirteen twenty four gene that happened two thousand four. This was the first time that we actually see Ukrainians dying on the streets. There's a war in Ukraine's eastern. Donbas which Russia has started started over thirteen thousand Ukrainians died in that war. Crimea's occupied by Russia right so the context now. Is You know clearly that Ukraine crane has closed the door to the east. It's closed the George Russia and clearly headed towards the West but to head towards the West. You actually have to have rule of law. Oh you can't have a corrupt government. you can't have a close procurement system for example. You have to have judicial independence all these principles also in institutions of democracy and par. Shinko doesn't get things done at the pace that Ukrainians are satisfied with they become increasingly to me frustrated with the fact that corruption continues to remain their societies things like everyday corruption. You like you have to bribe the police offer. Sony get pulled over. You have to bribe five eight developer. If you're trying to buy an apartment I mean every single day and of course it's high level corruption of the political level and so at that point and Zilenski takes hold of an opportunity people are looking for new blood. They're looking for new faces. They're tired of these politicians. The only other potential candidate candidate in April during the presidential elections is also kind of an old familiar face. The Mula Timoshenko who was already Prime Minister wants to a two thousand four was in jail beyond coverage but long story. She's been around for a long time. People don't really trust her. and so- zilenski comes out boo but at the same time. I think people are just looking for a new face the looking for anything that's not the old regime and he wins by a huge landslide over seventy percent and and is a huge embarrassment departure Shangqiu but also beautiful moment for Ukraine because this is one of the first this is the first time where you have a completely peaceful transition of power up pershing co you have to give it to him resigns in a very diplomatic way and it happens like democratic process should happen and of course the Russians Russians looking onto this some Russians anyways in Russia with they've had Putin now for almost twenty years and looking to Ukraine they can't imagine Putin relinquishing shing power volunteer. They can't imagine that happening in their own countries so again here we have another wedge that starts to separate a Ukraine and Russia abusively forever and you mentioned the the sort of pull between East and West that Ukraine is going through and that is something that we've you've seen for for many many years obviously just tell me a little bit more about the way in which Ukraine is sort of trying to decide decide whether it's throwing its lot with the West with the in the US versus Russia and what sort of factions are well. What's interesting about situation. Ukraine now is the the pro Russian faction. I mean they used to be. You know Communist parties in Ukraine until very very recently now how you can you there is no communist party they're still a full was formerly a Pro-russian Party Associate Degree College but they weaken significantly and so what's happening in Ukraine now is that basically there is no more inbetween for the Clinton people. You couldn't even see themselves belonging being in Europe they see themselves as you often hear them say fighting the war for Europe meaning a little war against the Russian invasion in eastern Ukraine they see themselves as the as the front lines of Europe. You hear this a lot and they want to have rule of law. They want to have a societies Zaidi's that are open they want to integrate into the EU despite everything that's happening in the right. Now I think the majority opinion still want this because they see the especially as embodying freedom and liberties and that's where Ukraine is going and if you go to Ukraine to key of now and if you had been there ah before two thousand fourteen right now you go there and it feels like Berlin or Stockholm. I mean just a everyone speaks English. It feels very fashionable and hipster Sir Okay Brooklyn or something like that so you can even feel it in in the cultural changes and so the door to Russia has has been shut and so the only path forward now is towards the West yet of course that can't really happen because Russia occupied Crimea and because there's an active if if low-intensity conflict in Ukraine east so with all that his background let's dive into the call so the the the first sort of moment in this transcript of this now infamous phone call between Donald Trump and presidents alinsky. Is this point where trump says. I will say we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot of time and then he goes on to say you know that the European Union isn't doing enough the the United States has been very very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say it's reciprocal. Necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very good to Ukraine. So what is he talking about their so their president trump is not wrong so after Russia invades Crimea in two thousand fourteen and takes over and then starts to win the NBA's the entire international community this was during the Obama Administration still comes together and tries to implement a common strategy energy to deterring continued Russian aggression and to help you defend himself against Russian military aggression the EU typically does not ah provide military support and aid but they step in eventually significant packages for democracy development. You know various forms of on the ground aid to civil society organizations independent media..
"ukraine" Discussed on The Daily
"Over the weekend reports of an unknown whistleblower with unnamed complaints against the president turned into allegations that president trump it quoted foreign interference from Ukraine to hurt his leading Democratic rival Joe by the President is calling it a witch witch-hunt and saying it's by who is engaged in corruption Mike Schmidt on whether Ukraine is shaping up to be the Russia Sean of twenty twenty kids Monday September twenty third my take me back to when you first learned about this whistleblower complain sue earlier this month we started to hear that there was a whistle blower that had some type of information and that Capitol Hill was was struggling to get their hands on it. Okay and then last Wednesday the Washington Post reported that that complaint came from someone in the intelligence community and it involved contact between the president and a foreign leader Peter so would you do so we jumped on the story because all of a sudden hold on there's someone in the intelligence community that thinks that the president has done something so egregious is that they are trying to get the word about this out somehow. What is it that the president could have done? What does it involve? What did he do that was so extreme that would appears to be a regular civil servant went so far as to file a whistleblower complaint which is very significant on the person who leads the executive branch?.
"ukraine" Discussed on Today, Explained
"Kind of ramming his ships and possibly keeping Ukrainian ships out of the Azov where about eighty percent of Ukraine's exports. Go through would definitely hurt the Ukrainian economy, which is struggling to recover during the war that it's still fighting making poor shaneco, look, bad and hurting Ukraine's economy could basically doom for shank of at least. That's that's one theory. Okay. The third reason is that Putin is definitely losing some popularity in Russia. So don't get me wrong. He's still based on poll numbers alone fairly popular. He's around sixty seven ish percent. But in April, he was in the eighties, and one of the reasons he's losing popularity is because despite the fact that he's promised a great revolution in Russia's economy. You know, everyone's going to benefit we're going to be a great world power that hasn't happened. Yeah. And every time poll slip Putin seems to find a way to do something pretty massive to get people on his side like his pull. Numbers are slipping in two thousand fourteen he sees his Crimea. They skyrocket. You know? Maybe he goes keeping the Ukrainians out of important see showing that I have more control over Ukraine than people think I do might help me. Get my poll numbers backup. It's unclear if all three regions of responsible of one of those responsible, but experts I've talked to point to those three as you know, why Russia would really be doing this. Now, I mean all of these elements, you know, escalating, an existing conflict ramming ships elections approval ratings. I it sounds like you've got all the elements of like the beginnings of an all out war. Is there a chance that this escalates into an international conflict between that that other players get involved in? Yes. But it's so small that I wouldn't worry about it. We don't have to add this to our list of things to worry about. No, I think there are apocalyptic headlines about this World War three is imminent. And look it could spiral Knockin to you. That's a possibility. But it's very. That I wouldn't wear here. Russia and Ukraine. Do not want a war here. No one really wants a war here. What it does look like though is the opening of a big new front in the Russia. Ukraine fight. Coming up the Russia. Ukraine fight. This is today explained..
"ukraine" Discussed on Fresh Air
"Ukraine and the 1930s wishes the period your book covers with seen as like the breadbasket for the soviet union um so when there was a famine ukraine became especially important to the soviet union yes you ukraine was important to the soviet union from the beginning as the source of much of its grain ukraine famously has to growing seasons it has a whole region called the black earth district which is unusually fertile soil and ukrainian important to these artist empire and then later took to the ussr as a source of grain and this of course was one of the reasons why uh the the soviets was very anxious not to lose ukraine and so during the civil war in 1917 in eighteen enormous efforts were made to keep ukraine to make sure that the ukrainian independence movement which at that time wanted to create a sovereign ukrainian state a didn't succeed in so there was that that motivation in addition to stalin's fear that ukrainian nationalism could pose a challenge to bolshevism ideal ideologically as well so you know there's a famine it gets worst because of the actions stalin takes just give us a sense of how bad the famine was in ukraine i mean you talk about some of the things that people eight when they couldn't find food like boiling their belts and eating backwell eight people eight leather they leaves the eight grass they eight cats and dogs the squirrels i read about people boiling frogs and toads trying to make bread or bake things make some kind of flour at of leaves and roots that it you know luckier people people who live near rivers were able to fish of course and people who lived near forests were able to gather mushrooms but unluckier people who didn't have those kinds of um who didn't have that kind of foodsource star very very quickly one of the things that happens when you starve as that you die.
"ukraine" Discussed on Fresh Air
"No russia doesn't want to annex ukraine russia wants to undermine ukraine and undermine any ukrainian government that would pose any kind of ideological or other challenge to russia russia wants to see ukraine as a kind of colony as a country that will pay it feel t that will follow its political system that will be a comfortable place for russians to do business so the story that you tell in your book a bat stalin's war on ukraine and how he helped orchestrate a famine in ukraine do you see that as connecting in some way with us with what's happening now between russia and ukraine it connects in a number of ways i think the most the most interesting way is stones motivation stolen saw ukraine as a problem not just not just for him politically but for his entire for the bolshevik revolution and he sought to undermine ukraine and to eliminate ukraine as a challenge as a as a as a sovereign nation because he feared that it could undermine bolshevism and that is not the same but it similar to the way in which putin views ukraine he sees any any ukraine that was pro democracy any ukraine that was close to europe politically and economically this is a challenge to his political system because his political system is a corrupt allergan oligarchy and he fears exactly the kind of emotions that led people to the streets in kiev so i think it's fair to say that these are two rulers who've both seen in ukraine is source of anarchy of discontent of possible trouble for their own political systems.
"ukraine" Discussed on Planet Money
"To understand what was going on here it helps to think of ukraine is kind of to ukraine's east and west the east borders russia it's got more russianspeakers the west borders europe and as more ukrainian speakers and east and west do not different ethnicities they're more like cultural groups but there has been friction in the past and response as it was easy for russian news to insert itself into this divide they want one part of the country's russianspeaking to hate another part of the country ukrainianspeaking then what other the bush eliana nonhazardous this was one of those stories on russian tv it reported that ukrainian soldiers had seized the russianspeaking toddler ritually stabbed him in the nailed him to a plank of wood a literal crucifixion evil dead the among the huzzah momma little shali among us about that i love a vet those so if not mckenzie guide you stop big team and other outlets looked into the story there were no other witnesses this crucifixion supposedly happened in front of a huge crowd stop fake also found extremely similar phrasing in the facebook post of a russian extremist published three days before the tv channel reported it and a few months before that a very similar crucifixion seen playing out in a show that is very popular marsha game of thrones that's it for this week remember considering fake news is bad for your health your brain and the psychological climate of society at first stop with success beyond what responded even imagined debunked stories were hit on social media and other news outlets picked up their stories more than that the stop big crew volunteers felt like they were winning the war the war for truth.