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Golden City

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36:44 min | 2 years ago

Golden City

"This podcast is brought to you by city possible pioneered by MasterCard all over the world cities are evolving fast MasterCard is imagining the urban future through city possible. A new model that brings together cities communities and businesses to solve system, my challenges with over twenty five member cities around the world and growing city possible is helping cities co-develop pilot and scale solutions that make them more sustainable and inclusive for the residents and it's happening today. Real progress demands a fundamental change in the way, governments and business leaders worked together the city possible framework is helping us all build cities of the future cities, that work for everybody. Imagine what's possible. Find out more at city possible dot com. I want to start off with a fun question for you today. What futuristic city from a movie, would you most want to live in the Washington DC, of course of minority report? Steven spielberg. Tom Cruise love that movie almost twenty years old Tom Cruise fighting crime walking down the street. And he's like going by stores and suddenly like gets personalized ads relate Hello are like come in here. This is just for you. Really wanna live there at. That's like so bleak. It's basically a surveillance state and didn't they have vertical freeways? Come on all futuristic cities in movies are pretty bleak. Yeah. But I thought you were going to say hill valley from back to the future to love those loves that place. Right. It's this idyllic nineteen sixties suburb. But it has flying cars and hover boards. I mean that's kind of transportation planners nightmare. But people on it really wanted one of those hover boards when I was. Transportation, nerdiness get in the way we're trying to tell stories important. It's back to the future Barney the fly. Like I'm surprised you didn't say a movie that we're talking about today. Black Panther, right. It doesn't let transportation get in the way because it has this amazing transportation system. While telling a great story, a love that movie. But that's just not fair. Molly. Because that movie came out last year. And it's about the present day. The city is in the prison. I think it's as futuristic as anything we've seen the movies. I mean, the golden city of Laconda is amazing. It has these futuristic tall buildings surrounded by beautifully preserved landscape, and then the roads are like at a human scale bustling with all of these people walking everywhere. And then you have viper neom powered trains, buses Uhm ING around. I mean that's pretty futuristic. If you ask me, you know, it was so great that it won the award for hand of Beechler the production designer. I kind of want to give her my own little personal award for. Xining a vision of what a city. I mean that's why I asked her on the show today because I thought it would be so refreshing to hear from someone who is not the policy wonk or the tech nerd, someone who has. Collective on cities. Yes. Exactly. Someone who's going to help us think differently. Well is going to be a really fun conversation. Stay tuned. We'll be back after the break. We're technology is disrupting remaking and sometimes overrunning our cities. I'm Jim Kapsis? I was a climate negotiator in the Obama administration and now advice, tech startups, and I'm Molly Turner. I teach urban innovation at the Berkeley, Haas school of business, and I was the first policy director at Airbnb today, we're going to be talking with Hannah Beechler the production designer for films like moonlight fruitvale station. Creed beyond say's lemonade and of course, Black Panther production designers, have like the coolest job in the meetings. And I don't think most people even know what they do. But they basically are responsible for almost everything. You see on, on the screen in the case of Black Panther. I mean, she was kind of, like, the, the cinematic architect of the golden city. I mean, that was like that's really what she was focused on was lake was gonna look like I have to say, folks have definitely taken notice of her vision. Our friend Britain mock at city lab published no joke though. What reader, which is a compilation of all of the many articles that were written about what Khandan urbanism articles life, the attainable wonders of what Khandan transit train again, train a black planning, scholars reflections on Black Panther and saving historic places. Why would Kanda is where every urban est wants to live and a ton more? Can I get a copy of that for my bedside? Sounds good nighttime reading. But listen, I don't think it's that surprising that it's inspired articles like that. I mean, talking to handle, she was telling us she actually wrote a five hundred page book about every detail of that city, every building, right? Every stone felt like well, whatever she wrote in that book, clearly worked because she created a city that included so many ideas that urbanism have been dreaming about for so long, which is exactly why we wanted to have her on the show. So we started by asking her. What was it like to Bill? Not a city of the future. But is city of today the way that it ought to be. We wanted people to fill familiar or relatable leg and not looking at Tron. They're not looking at Star Wars Black Panthers set in twenty eighteen so while it is futuristic looking, we also had to remember that we're still in present day world that comes down to sort of form in repetition. So e come up with a design language in golden city, almost everything is circle, and that sort of design language came from employing, a ruins, which are hundred fifty thousand years old, and it's all specifically designed like a fortress to keep people out. So there is even tradition in the design language. There's been so many movies that have imagined cities in new ways, and have influenced nickel lot of a lot of us, and a lot of people's thinking, I think about my father, forcing me, he's a film. Professor and sociologist so movies close to my heart, but forced me to watch blade runner at age ten. And it's interesting that you twenty nineteen this year's actually the year that blade runner. The original was depicting of Los Angeles. I've always loved blade runner, and I did look at e-e-e-e-no, this sort of density on the it was really dense with people with buildings with, you know, vehicle and the dark vision of the future played writer, and I feel like we will conduct to me seems in golden city to be maybe in contrast. It's really in contrast to that, you know, when you see like step town, you know, I wanted it to feel packed with people and dense and open air, but the polar opposite of what blade runner was sort of offering because it all had to connect back to the preservation of the people in nature. How did you make all of those things come to life in a place like in this neighborhood step town in the golden city where it looks like a narrow alley in an old town. And there are a lot of people on the streets. The thought behind step down was okay. This is the area. Of town, where it's young families up and coming artists, and scholars and writers and hip art neighborhoods and cities. We're in your mind that sort of vibe, but we're taking the traditional architecture from certain countries from Nigeria from Sudan from Uganda Mali, and imagining, what would this generation of what Condon's do with their traditional architecture? How would they have made it different? So the rule for us was always the tradition should always, prevail. Why was tradition so important to you, because I think it's something that's been lost in the black community. It's in the back of your mind all the time, like where do I come from, what is, you know what part of this continent? And my from am I even from this continent by people are. Everywhere. So, you know, a lot of the traditions that we have often, don't know is something that I wanted to make sure that we included within the design, you know, it's basically, what would in African nation. Look like had. They had completed Tani me over their own resources and their own agency to do with their land. What they wanted to your vision for what like the ideal city could be is in such stark contrast to me from like all of the technologists visions of future cities where they're totally created from scratch. It's like there's some god-like planner who designs it from the top down. Everything is gleaming steel, and metal and glass and you never see any historic elements of cities for some reason, they always want to build it in some new place where there's no history to contend with. And I mean one way that this manifest for me was like you have buses. In the golden city like can you talk about, like how you chose like what elements of history to include and what kind of new technological fantasies, you wanted to bring into the golden city. I really wanted to keep everything within an evolution of what was any country in Africa. You will see these buses, most notably in Lagos with eight hundred people hanging. We were in Cape down on lay. I mean it was real. There were buzzing everywhere, and there were always like a million people in them, and they people were going to work, and people were going to wherever they need to go. It's very familiar traditional thing, why than destroying, it's sort of, like what you were saying, why didn't destroy this thing. That's so familiar to people thing that's part of the culture that's within different communities, instead of destroying it, you just evolve it. So how did you evolve the, the buses will now that bus is working on vibe rainy Greenville, open air. It's still. Still got one hundred people in it is still has a driver. Still has a driver in. Said that. I mean silicon valley's all about autonomy. Thomas. Ryan's like doing Nina driver. And I'm like I'm like, well, you don't. But I think we do because I think that there's something about that. That's also part of African American history is the bus driver, the bus, also, you think of the Rosa Parks story, it's a big part of who we are we wrote a bus into Selma, it's in a sense, how our familiarity with that type of vehicle has evolved, as well as the African you know what I mean, I have two African American culture is different than African culture. But there is a, a string that connects. So. There's, there's that bus driver relationship to you. You get to know your bus driver, exactly human connection is still valuable in our ideal city. It is innovation and technology. It has to be about people people have to come first in my humble opinion, you know, and starting to work in on will conduct was like Condon's have to be involved within themselves. They cannot have this type of technology and be who we are currently. Racist say more what do you mean by that? They understand that they don't need it. They don't need technology to survive. They don't need to do something faster or quicker or this idea of convenience or consumers. They don't need that, or you're speaking language. What technologies did you decide not to use? What like does Uber and lift exist in? Yeah. We were wondering that they exist. Now gone. Public will they now be incontinent? You don't see lift but another way that energy is run. It's like you look at a city like New York, and there's just millions of people walking all day long, and it's so much unused energy. Oh this foot traffic. So the sidewalks in golden city are the absorb that energy and they and they run buildings amazing by brainy absorb that lady. And then spits it back Ray, I don't, I don't think that that's something that's unrealistic for a real city. Like, why, why can't we utilize all the people that walk around mid town all day long? I mean New York is a walking city and I think, you know, urban cities are going to go that way walking biking. I don't know about flying cars. There were no flying cars in Kanda that I could see they seem to be every other futuristic movie there we that was purposeful. Why talked and talked and talked about the flying cars 'cause there's even flying cars in the comics owes you took them out. That's interesting. A little bit of. It was because it felt too far into the future for where we wanted to be I personally, hate the idea of flying cars, because people always propose them as a solution to traffic. But I'm like you're just gonna get traffic in the sky. That's not going to be a fun place to live. So I loved that there weren't any flying car. Yes, honestly, I'm I'm hesitant with people on the road. I've been in some taxis or late. No. You should never be in a flying car. You shouldn't be in the skew should it be in this taxi right now. Driving me exactly flying through Manhattan talks about the train the train seem to be really central in wauconda. It it's the showcase for the vibration, Eum entrain seemed to pervade some of the other films. You've worked on with rank Kugler, what's the importance of the train in Kanda for you? Chance for tation is a big thing for Ryan. And I learned that on fruitvale station because, you know, that whole thing was around the Bart system, and he grew up with public transportation in a way that I didn't coming from sort of country girl that was too, by the way, I get his infatuation. Yeah. So for him, it was a really important piece in creed. You know you see the L in Philadelphia. And so then when we got to conduct Ron was like, okay so what's the transportation system here? And I was like excuse me. I kind of started thinking, like how are people getting around? That's when we were talking about cars, do they fly. Do they have do they, what do they do? And buses and you know, we designed to hold train system. That was a little bit on a hyperloop. But, you know, I per- loop like Elon Musk's hyperloop, certainly the hyperloop was inspiration, but not, not at all what we ended up with speaking of Elon Musk. I mean his vision of the future is so different from yours. I don't know if you've seen his boring company, which is the company that will dig the tunnels for hyperloop and other things. He has this promotional video for it that I always play in my class. I teach at Berkeley. The video is has this exciting music, and the car goes down into the tunnel and kind of like magnetically levitated through the tunnel, but there's not a single human being in the entire video. And I'm like, I always students I'm like, what are we designing this for to move? Cars or to move people. And that's like the absolute inverse of what you're saying. You were thinking about in conduct. Absolutely. It was always the focus was the people. Right. One Ryan, I talked about anything that was in the city and it was about the what's the story. What's the history of it? How did it affect the people? How do people use it? How you know, when I wrote a history for all the little pieces and parts the stories about the parks and what third called with their nicknames are, and how they got their nicknames by the kids that would go there. And, you know, partying the tunnel there is a story. About the kids partying? You all know that this is this is what and you have to do that in order to understand the thing that you're building, and why you're building it. We'll be back with more from Hannah Beechler right after this quick break. So stay with us. This podcast is brought to you by city possible pioneered by MasterCard all over the world is cities are evolving, and city leaders are working hard to ensure that our urban future is inclusive for everybody, every Mary's trying to figure out how to use technology to be more efficient use technology to connect more with your residents of your community. 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It's about organizing cities, sometimes for their own benefit Miguel Camino lead city possible at MasterCard. He's helping leverage. Mastercards capabilities and connections across industries to strengthen cities city possible supports local governments, implementing new solutions that serve their residents more inclusively and sustainably and city possible is set up to help cities, learn from each other. So if the mayor of Melbourne or Dubai wants to tackle the future of mobility, there's a solution, blueprint they can leverage, as a starting point those face to face and virtual exchanges between cities surface, those common issues and we see one of those issues has an opportunity to benefit from our assets or resources or those of our partners then we. Engage in what we've called co-development. So we actually engage with the city and better understand, or define the problem statement, and then work collectively with our partners. And the cities themselves to build a solution MasterCard lends, its tech and data insights, muscle, to local governments helping kickstart important projects. And when I heard about what they're doing, you know, I was on board sin. We want to sign up with you. We want Jews MasterCard to help pull us forward to push us forward to help us even do better with city possible governments industry in nonprofits can collaborate to serve people better and build the cities of the future. Find out more at city possible dot com. Any of the technology that we were making or conceiving, it was in service to the environment, and in service to the people, the roads are grass in dirt. But we have the hover van that comes through that was such an interesting juxtaposition. Why did you make that choice to have the dirt road? And then with the hovercraft I mean, it's sort of a clash of the old and the new right? And I think it's also something that when people start thinking about like cities, they start thinking about what how do we serve as the longevity of our cities without constant repair. Right. So you have a lot of cities that have flooded in past two three years in this country and worse than they had previously, one of the reasons why they fled so badly is because we are covered in concrete. There is nowhere for wanted to go except for collect. So flooding gets worse and worse and worse it, you're in direct opposition of your. Virement at that point. So when we're thinking about the streets in the city of Kanda, if it's all about the environment than they wouldn't have, you know, gas cars, they would have something that nobody else in the world has, which is right. Yeah. Our house run of my brain, Ian, which is basically their entire energy source. How do you talk a lot about vibe rainy in which I know is sort of part of the comic book lure, you know of, of, of what Kanda and obviously drives, a lot of technology. How do you guys think about its role though, because it does seem to have a bit of a magical quality where like everything. Well, it's because of the vibration, Eum we went around and around, because they only thing we really know vibrant, even is captain my captain America's shield shell. Right. You know it's one of those things where you're kind of going along, and they can like get solved. And then one day you realize, like we got us all. This out it can't be just a magical substance. That's what I struggled with a thing the most. And so then you start becoming an expert in metallurgy. You know, you do get to a place where you're kind of, like oh, library, neom. Make it work. You know, just say right Brady. And then you really have to work hard not to do that. So we did talk to a lot of experts, a lot of theories came through about red stars having explode at certain moments. Experts Lee went deep. We went deep not only did you become like a meddler G expert. It sounds like you also really feel like you've thought a lot about cities and become kind of an urban expert draw this, like, how did you become such an urban est is this something you were raised to always think about? I did. I mean, I grew up. I have to say I grew up, my father was an architect, my entire life since the day. I was born started his his own firm, the year I was born. So I grew up in a sense really kind of understanding like driving around with my dad was always him explaining why things were the way they were why roads were the way they were why buildings were there with the history of those buildings were my hometown. And you know what the flood did, how things can be improved because he was also very much into using renewable materials to build low in. Income housing. So I it was always there. There much as I thought I was going to ignore it and not have anything to do with it. You know, for me, this is if feels more normal than anything to do something like this, you prefer few times, to, to floods, you've just talked about your dad. I guess helping you think through a flood, and how would influence maybe him and you are New Orleans, which obviously has experienced the epoch of all floods. And we talked about what Kanda and the roads. When you think about cities, are we thinking appropriately about how to protect ourselves? And how does it inform your own thinking about cities? I don't think we are thinking enough about how to protect ourselves and in ways that are not just protecting our property. But you know protecting. Protecting the integrity of the history of, of what, what is there? You know, I think in New Orleans. I'd never understood it. I, I always looked at that city lay. Why would you build a bowl? You know, like that never made sense to me. Because we know from the time we're born what happens in a bowl. And that's what happened how long have you lived in New Orleans about fifteen years, did it influence at all? How you've portrayed different cities in your films. Whether the golden city or Miami and moonlight enough. I think the thing about living in New Orleans is that I gave me a really great reverence form. Keeping your history intact, do you know you don't you're gonna find a bunch of big box stores in New Orleans, Popper. You're not gonna find a bunch of Starbucks. You're not gonna find a bunch of any of that people wanna keep it the way it wasn't. I have a lot of respect for, for that, like you can walk around New Orleans, and look at the houses, and you see history. And I think that's something I did bring to Konda is the reverence for that history. In the fact that the city has gone through so much, and, and it still here that people are still here. Speaking of some of the challenges. Of US cities in your other films and moonlight and fruitvale station you were capturing the lived experiences of black Americans in Miami. And Oakland if you were to envision some utopian, US city for a film, how might your protest differ from what you built in what Kanda like, how would that look in the United States if it could exist at all could Saddam? I mean, I think that one thing about in the United States, it's like is it is city that exists because you've got to work around. Would you got when I was in New York just recently? I mean, I would stand outside and stare at that city hours trying to figure out how to grade it. I mean for hours it was like, how can I use these buildings? How can I use the verticality of the city to make something that services? Everybody is it that we start building. You know what I like to call skyways that can link both ends of the city together, getting traffic off the ground so you can start taking up the concrete in creating communal areas of business instead of business inside buildings. You have communal areas of business outside. There's more accessible to yes. More spaces where people are sort of forced to be in each other space in converged. They don't think there's enough of that. I think we're going in the direction where we're sort of dividing each other up into these, like rows and lines and aisles and people are sort of moving along. I think that if you create more geometric large spaces it with, with that you're forcing people to be together. And I think that we have to relearn how to do that now because the technology is pulled us out. We're so busy insider, our phones that we forget to look up and see the faces in front of us. I couldn't agree with that more. I feel that way whenever, I'm going to lift or around the Toronto by phone, or even on the train everyone's on their phone. Not paying attention to each other, you know, because you can kind of go into your own little your own little world. But like that idea of people bumping into each other more courageous in communal spaces, creating spaces where you have to, like interact. And you know, I understand automating but there's a there's. Something to be said about jobs like when I was in South Africa when I pulled into the gas station at one point. I mean there was like thirty people everywhere. They were like chattering tires and cleaning the thing. And I was like this is crazy. What is going on? And Ryan looked at me. He said, because we don't do that anymore, everything that these people are doing the job and also we're now talking to them, and we're, we're interacting with them. So it was a much different feeling it was kind of cool. And it was like, I just learned something about some person that I would have never met or talked to had that not been there. So it's a lot about creating that type of thing is well within the structures in the architecture, you know that we have because people don't realize how much control city has over your life. It decides what time you come into the city decides what time you leave the city, it decides where you say how you sit where you go when you go there how long it takes. You to get there. How many lights turn green? I mean, it's, it's such a controlled movement around that if you kind of take that back and let people freely move, they're going to be more apt to reach out to each other. I think than being like I gotta get to the train at eight o'clock or else. I'm not going to get home on time to get the babysitter to do the thing you're under stress twenty four seven. How do we design that out of a city? What kind of weapons based on what you just said? Do you think city planners, you know, should take from, I guess what you created on the screen? What would you like to see happen? More in, let's say US cities, that is not happening today. I think that a lot of cities need to look into where they're public transportation goes. I love to see that change Chicago. You know, there's a lot of low income areas that public transportation does not get to there in lies the Domino's right? Because then. Mom can't get to work on time. And now her kid can't get to school on time and Lola, it's just Domino's. We need to start connecting neighborhoods. Like, when I go to a city, I always feel like I am really alone. Sometimes, like I it's really hard to talk to people or find people to talk to, you know, and I tried to make an effort to talk to people all the time. But we decided to do is just make a world that honored ritual, and spirituality and people and family and community food, and, and, and it was about connecting in unity. We want all this technology want all this advancement, but we are really unwilling to advance ourselves. And you cannot handle technology that we have if we do not work on evolving, who we are. We have slowed at Evelyn, because we don't need that much anymore. We're not an adapting to anything or adopting two screens. And that is not the direction anything that we want our, our children to take a wonderful note, and on Hannah, we need to innovate on ourselves before we innovate on technology, or even on cities, like I'm going to use it in my class, if I have your permission. Before we go, though, we've got asked. There's gotta be some teaser for Black Panther too. I'm going to. Spoilers because you know what I mean marbles back company. I can't do that. I couldn't say that I have been working on some really fantastic amazing stuff, again, people, I but the technology this time around, it's really going to be mind blowing. Molly, we'll be right back to debrief our conversation with head of Beechler right after the break. So stay with us. Well, if there's one thing we've learned from making this podcast, it's at the pace of urban change can be dizzying, but it doesn't have to be overwhelming city lead dot com has so many stories like the ones on this podcast and not just about technology. They've got the full story on Amazon's expanding headquarters, new ideas for addressing housing, segregation and real talk about what transportation shifts are needed to fight climate change. And there's an easy way to keep up sign up for C labs daily newsletter. Even if you think you already get too many newsletters, you won't regret this one. It's a quick and invaluable digest of the stories, you're missing that are actually affecting the communities around, you sign up for a newsletter right now by visiting city lab dot com slash subscribe and start getting the biggest news and ideas shaping cities, that C lab dot com slash subscribe. Get it now. So I think it's fair to say that of Hannah were designing a real city, not just one on the silver screen that you and I might wanna live there. Hell, yeah. I would I mean, what's so powerful about her vision is that she's taken all of these really sophisticated ideas about urbanism and technology and built the city that resonates with everyone. I know. I mean that's one of the things I just love about movies. Right. It's that they allow us to challenge our imaginations into see things in new ways. I mean, I've conversations all the time about chipping away at the concrete to make us more flood resistant. But you know, Hannah starts from this radical premise, remove the concrete like altogether. Just remove it like that on the screen and Black Panther. Right. And you begin to think, well, maybe we should think bigger so many of our best ideas are limited by political or economic constraints. And that's exactly the kind of world that technologists are really good at envisioning, right? They love this Tableau Rossa where, you know, like they don't have to worry about community meetings or pesky. Across bulldoze through the city and through all of the history of that city, res- hana's, like, yes, I'm thinking big, but history is a creative constraint for me, like I'm building a city that is layered upon this long. Historical foundation totally, but on the other hand, I think sometimes city leaders and urban planners. They take all these constraints too seriously. Like, oh, tr- everytime. I bring up at a city meeting. I hear all the reasons why won't work like is like pleading with them, like, like let's not start with what's not possible. Let's imagine what is possible. Can we tried to do that? Yeah. And I think movies, they help us with that because they force us to imagine what's possible beyond those of normal everyday constraints. You know movies have actually influenced a lot of technologists, did, you know, for example, Buber was inspired by the JAMES BOND casino royale movie. You know where he likes what my favorite tracks the car on the PS inspired Uber? Okay. Okay. Well, then going in that line of thinking, what new urban tech ideas do you hope Black Panther inspires, and Silicon Valley? I hope that they'd noticed that Hannah is actually doing something really different from what a lot of technologists do. And that she doesn't reflexively believe that technology is always an improvement. Right. She's taking things that work pretty well for us today and just evolving them shit. Don't use tech to destroy something that's there. But use it to evolve. Exactly, exactly. So, like the example with the bus driver rate. She's like I know we can have a Tanah Masih close. But I wanna keep the bus driver or the thing that I hope this movie inspires is the energy producing sidewalks. It takes something that we've been doing since the beginning of time walking that seems to work pretty well for most of us and just makes it even better. That's actually something that's companies are testing out. It's not really working very well yet, but it kind of a neat idea, and she's not that far off into it's already happening. That's so cool. But. I'd like, like panther to inspire more cities to be more intentional about what their goals are I mean, whether that's for mobility, or open space housing. Whatever it is. And then to have the data to be really selective about what technologies they permit on their streets. Yes. Absolutely. That is. I think the most important lesson. Not just for city leaders, but for technologists and filmmakers to write you can create a future city that you really want not just the same flying car version of a future city in every film, you know. Well, listen. I don't think it's a coincidence. We got this new urban vision from Hanna. Yeah. She was really inspired by her experience in particular, her African American heritage, who she was talking about the importance of the bus, and the significance of the Rosa Parks story, and sort of shaping that vision. And I think that's what inspired so many people. Yeah. It's no surprise to me that a black woman came out with a different vision for a city because most of the city's we see in the US in. The real world and unfilmable were designed by white men. That's true. I mean even the movies, right. You said Madeira report back to the future. Bladerunner all of the production designers white guys. Exactly. So if you change who's imagining the movies you change. What's going to end up on the big screen? But if you change who's imagining our future cities, you might just change what's possible here in the real world. We'll be back next week with another in-depth conversation from Technopol. We'll be talking with Maya Wiley, a professor of urban policy MSNBC contributor and a digital equity activists about broadband and how the digital divide goes beyond just getting online until next time I'm Molly Turner. Jim campus Technopol is production of city lab co Flavio is the city lab editor and our vibration hookup for junior. Laura is our producer and Lizzy Jacobs is an executive producer Josh Rogerson is our engineer our theme music is by co-pilot special. Thanks to my dad for making me wash blade runner at age ten. For more on the golden city in what's shaping the cities here in the non marvel universe Doda city lab dot com and please take a minute, and subscribe on apple podcasts, or wherever you listen. 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How Technology Can Help You Swim Faster Than Ever Before - 20 Minute Fitness Episode #067

"The. Hello. And welcome back to another episode of twenty minutes, fitness once again, a big welcome to any of our new listeners onto our listeners the shooting every week. Thank you, very much feel continued support. If this is your first time listening, and you do enjoy the podcast, please make sure to subscribe in which NFL cost player. Listen to your podcast. And of course, do not have to get in touch with us. We'd love to your ideas, future episodes on the show. Anyone you think we should interview if you've used it? If you mentioned this episode or in previous episodes, we would love to hear from you. Sue, make sure you start engaging be grades. And of course, twenty minute fitness is powered by shakes scale shapes galas, a three D body scanning scale, you should step on the scale of the body. Armor, spin around your audit Kettering, all sorts incredible body insights, this is then sinked of chill third. Your Belsey metrics such as your body fat percentage. You lean muscle mass muscle girth measurements as well. As visual representation of your body, an avatar, so it truly make shape scale comprehensive. Fitness tracker, you can pre-order shape scale shapes Gail dot com. Definitely check. It's discount. Still. So episode of the how technology can help series and this time we are looking at how technology can help you swim foster before I started Stephanie were saying that from what I found this market is less mature than others. We haven't seen that much fusion yet between tech and the swimming world says me really exciting to see wall sorts of developments innovations come out in the future because it's something of less developed than technology that can help you increase your lists in the gym, for example. But having said that we did still manage to find some really exciting Biggs of tech. And we call way to tell you all out the blessed often talk about quickly why swimming is such an important or useful beneficial sports Inc. Zero team. So frequenting does come with a whole host of benefits known as a greats workout. In fact, you gotta she burn anywhere from six hundred to eight hundred eighty eight calories per hour. According to live strong and pending on the stroke speed you go out, but it's. Also, full body workout as incorporates Milly or the body's muscles regular swimming's also been known to help reduce stress levels anxiety, and because it's a low impact workout it Khimik rates way to recover if you have sustained that injury and Yukon potentially on run on you can't do activity in the gym. So she'll joints from stiffening up muscle deterioration might usually happen. If you would just to sit idly and just stay said, it traces good way to get your workout in and recover foster with outs just getting bored. Doing no exercise at all. So about further Gillette's doll toy always do look at the list level of accessibility. Also depends your proficiency level on the cost of the items as well on the first thing we're going to look at is the finish tempo. Train appro to the finish. Temple trainer is a small waterproof device that easily soco's beneath your swim all on your strap on it transmits an audible tempo beep the finish temper trainers fumes. Modes helped make your swimming strokes more efficient to example, you look at your stroke rate, which is the number of strokes per minute to work on your rhythm and timing within the stroke. So what we'll do is basically make you perform your stroke upon every beeps every time hit a time of BB would perform your stroke, and you can adjust the time out to increase the number or decrease than mbelle strokes minutes, if you want to a need to develop a higher stroke rates, and obviously you would increase the number of beeps you'll fight in the washroom onto lengthened out your straw than you would decrease the number of beeps. Most swimmers have a dominant side in this stroke. And as a result of this this roof is often lopsided all favor. One side amiss results in less efficient stroke, a hitched all Gallup stroke. They they sometimes call. This is common as I said when we favor one side of the other and guessing a good rhythm going is obviously really hard in these scenarios so reviews scene say that the temperature trade will help you. Develops cadence and rhythm in your stroke, and this will help you increase your fishing. If you can go the same speed with fewer strokes increase your ability to be efficient in the water, and you can try and develop this using device. You can also look at the lab insightful node to even set the tempo train out to speed that you wish to swim for twenty five meters. And this is a bleep or be tested. Jim. I mean, you simply Patia swim. So that you're pushing off each end of the pool on each lap on the beep swim half poll pacing often stall two false starts fade out or they often glide for too long do get swing quick enough. So in the losing oil in a race, for example, mislead completely destroys performance surf you can better improve your ability to stay on pace not quickly or not go to slowly then you'll definitely increase or decrease the amount of time. It takes you to complete jus- at distance resolvable. What's nice about this is you can reduce the time taken between each beep slowly over time to ensure that it's an incremental progression may not trying to jump to allow time that salt equipped view fall too quickly, and according to swim, smooth dot com. Having a stroke rate be like finished impo- train pro is the most effective way to remove dead spots poses from your stroke-technique on dead sports. Are brought about by technique were folks too much on gliding. So this Louisville strip great, and you gliding, greatly harms your sense of rhythm. So using the fist you can progressively lift your stroke rates on remove the dead spots in your stroke. So this sounds grades oversleep. And it's very simple to take -nology and pick it up of Amazon around forty five dollars. Definitely something that's worth looking into because it is so simple and can Shabelle seconds of your lap times. Next up. We haven't called the mice whim pro up this outfit applauded by Olympic swimmer pizza vindicate and the app claims that with the help of his going workouts. Training plans. It's drill videos on it's also swim tracking analytics you'll be able to swim much more efficiently. Much faster. Thanks to the the data the programs that has incorporated an actually allows you to download the guided workouts, and you can stole it on your phone or as a PDF, and you can even sink them into on some compatible small watches so you'll apple watches. Fitbit's. Garments will with the free version of the app, you can access the capabilities all knowing your previous rimmed eternally looking better this or who dates trying to improve on it, and you can follow some of the custom workouts, you can even Asli sink, your workhouse, the straw, CEO, friends con flawed. You will what distance you done like Kamala? If you if you've done a massive swim or an open swim and you'll receive motivational feed by Straub up this also elite or premium version of the app the leap subscription costs nineteen dollars ninety nine cents a month, which is billed monthly or you can pay nine dollars ninety nine cents a month, which build annulation about one hundred twenty dollars a year. So with the elites version of premium version, you'll have access to thousands of swim workouts, more than just with the the standard free version of the app, and these are suitable for beginners on those competitive Swizzle tries to matching Tena two different proficiency level, which will set and the drills around Zayn around your speed on your skill levels. The further up you can stall a personal training plan on these range from the timeframes on those goals. What you want to achieve might choose to reply or twelve we plan all depends on what you want to achieve and much like every training without a comprehensive training plan. You may will improve. But you're not going to improve anywhere near as efficiently as if you had a training set professionals. Honestly, this is what we'd advocates in almost every sport. You do for example, if you're training for half marathon case of running plan if you'll trying to improve your strengthen size in the gym that maybe follow Jim program. It's just make sure your wants thing countable and also gives you this instruction seat out to go into somewhere and try make up your own work. Out. It's not going to leave you confused about what to do in y improving in wino- plateaus because these are professionally produced help you overcome all these different issues. So the plans like this you may choose the gets fit plan which aims to get using a mile continuously in six weeks or you could opt for the fifty hundred meter open water swim, which would take twelve weeks to achieve on the plans to choose whether you want to focus on improving endurance, imprio- swing technique or improve your pace. So we look at the gets fit workouts. You might be asked to do three sessions. A week might also third session two stalls four hundred yard swim. The second one also arrestee maybe a six hundred yards, and it might be focused on technique, and so on the workouts allied to compete them. Obviously, according to own calendar, they do recommend you to get fit program doing three times a week with rest in between. But all fused compete in your own time as the knows everyone's able to get to a pool. The daily said, it's nice workouts prepared head of time. If you also wanna tight time budget, you can get straight down to business in complete them in the most efficient manner because you knew exactly what you need to do. And having a concrete goal of continuously swing for mile. It will make you more motivated, and you'll feel sense of accountability. As you go to an end destination, you want to get to and you'll have an idea about how to get how Lois takes get the guarded workouts. All perfect learnings technique at improving, cardiovascular, fitness, miss, fitness from swimming is really transferable. All of the aspects of life. Not your sports, which includes swimming like being an manner leads triathletes competitive swimmer, swimming, so beneficial for all types of sports, I often do it on play rugby. You could do it's American football plant anything really really does because low impact high-calorie burn high heart rates are horrid ready high? It is rarely beneficial. No matter what sport you play. Basically, I also let pro a great community that allows you to connect like minded swim as you can see learn from there. You can ask about hiking overcome time plateau. Hundred Meeks foster econ, Dave and trying to break that time set for while you can schedule Kohl's Muslim pros coaches. You can talk through the pain point. She might have. And you can also stop it. When you first set at the elite subscription with Muslim prayer by having own boating phone, call the coaches anelle give you access to swimming tips drills videos in the right direction westall based in your proficiency, relevant experience. So that's another great feature in my opinion. They also have a thorough analytics page, we can track your progress in Luke free Stotts. This can be things like number of laps. You've done the halt rate if you'll obviously attached to a hallway monitor or small watch you'll strokes pile-up your not split carries Burge distance and your swale and swath isn't abbreviation for swim Gulf, and it's a measure of your swimming efficiency, and basically calculate this by adding together strokes Polenz on the time for the land. So if you're doing a length in forty seconds, you're using thirty strokes. You have a small score of seventy unlike Gulf the live. Oh, the school the better we should strike the lowest possible to make a stroke as efficient as possible. And the best way to improve your school is I calculated as want lot continue to repeat over a number of lens while trying different variations of stroke lengths and rates. And by doing this trail, you should find a method results in the lowest full score on thus improving you'll efficiency, and it's recommended to gliding to a minimum of this would help to get an Acura deal of your school. So when you push for a war when you're driving install getting into stroke. Fritzy, promptly many should usual possible. Wednesday to set to say new goals insure your constant improving reviewing historic data, making joy moving in the right direction now moving into the mid level category. The first thing to look fussing is the swimming pool. Make HR to HR is a wrist, wearable. That's of Asli in the name in specifically designed for the pool you can use it to your heart rate's on the watch during swin because when you buy the pool. Nate you get the accompanying chess strap to track your heart rate, and then you can download all the starts off towards full further analysis was good about having the chest draw the Troy on a small war starts calculator hallway because most optical based hallway senses us a series of green lights flash against the skin to change. The blood volume generate beats per minutes, readings on the water can quite often interfere with these readings so many sources say that actually hall on chess straps, all considered the most reliable way of tracking hall raise once in the water. You can also use the HR as hall monitor out to the pool for other sports activities. The makes allows other cystic tracking his well allows you to try to lapse what type stroke you'll doing the speed you'll going at the distance. You've done calories. Burned your stroke length your strikes permits under officiency, he's old calculated on the movement of your arms, quite a lot of in depth information about she'll swing state. That and how you improve it. The pool mates also comes with a vibrating law which set off or even pro-government to go off. Once you've completed a set amount of laps, for example, or authoress that's of time. So this could be feature if you'll really going into the cul KO trying to get ten laps as quick as possible. You don't want to stop to look what interfere of your rhythm cadence. So you basically will hair when you completed this time lapse from the vibration as far as I can see the HR very well reviewed, and what's cool as well as you can track your hallway training also in your at rest and the time it takes bats rest off to training. So tracking hallway why Why's Goodwin swimming? Well, it's good for every so exercise ready because many say if you're not assessing you're guessing, or if you say this way, we'll get measured gets managed. So initial actually measuring assessing performance improvements just guessing the program is working. So when tracking your heart rate to see whether you're pushing yourself hall race kissing up. Not really high horizon, or whether you're caught him endurances improving depending on the time it takes a hall rates return to his resting rate. So if it's time you to you'll halt return to arresting rates is decreasing, obviously, getting fitter, you can hope presume that she'll training program is actually working for you. So if you'll somebody wants all in depth metrics about your swing style, you can pick who needs H off just one hundred ninety dollars announced a nother wearable, misses the move. Now, the move is multifunctional arable commutes for number different sports, such as running cycling, boxing and swimming. Of course, we're interested in swimming at this stage so move now also recognize the number difference. The ticks about your swing style. Which includes tracking your out your time your distance pace, and you get a full breakdown of each individual lab with more Vence metrics such as the distance per stroke on the stroke rates on look this, obviously ofter, you're swimming session at spinach by accessing the v. Video so move uses three motion sensor technology to track you'll move into the water distinguish between the four different stroke types. They're all and it would also give you tips and hints on your swimming style and much more even dive deep into the performance will swim again whilst looking at individual length. So you can see how your rhythm and your swimming style is affected when you stop to tie. You can consciously hold on your mind. When you go swimming next time to really focus on these hunting points to improve on later on your swing session looking at those individual out times as well. You can also look at how many strokes you did in them. How long it took you're turning time? So you can even improving that pushing off the wall, you can look any breaks pauses you had to try to juice those optimize your breathing properly. So it's really really comprehensive the amounts of things it tracks. It also analyze your pace efficiency and you'll calories as well. When looking at things your stroke greats you'll be able to establish really whether your sprint or endurance America. Trying to work out. Where you fit in the swing weld and sprint Swiss tend to the highest rate great, whereas jurists have a high distance per stroke at it's always important to goods from Allen's between these two components to make you as efficient as possible. You also work out your your heart rate when using the move now if you connect your move now with the move, h sweat, which is a halt rate powered sweatband made athletes, they can sit on Neo caps of do to do halt training as well and work. The Okon fitness is increasing than this is also an option when you look back at your historic daters. Well, you can obviously assess whether one swimmers false in the other noodles against get tips as well it move. Now, we'll give you Fru the app say might say stuff like to splashy beginning stroke or enter your fingers first, you're more streamlined than officiant as you swim on these small improvements overtime when Shaw do become a better swimmer a move. Do. They all talking about because within that team. They have I am on traffic to athletes have. Libyan swimmer in that team. I'm the thing. Staggering about the move. Now is it's actually only sixty dollars and considering it's multiple channels of tracking other sports swelling us incredible tech radar, obviously. Agreed because they scored it four point five out of five stars in the high end we could have looked at as more high-end smartwatch is leading up wash. For for example, another option. I love cats was the finish swim sense before it's monitor to look something. I think could be really interesting to be released in the future on this. All swim owes born the need for real time data when swimming founder, Julian swollen was frustrated at the lack of technological auctions for haunting swimming performance. So he sets about looking for solution. So he found that he thinks to track his by training, and like how cycling elusive statistics and this allowed to race against himself. He was had running water Scharnagl gauge efficient pace, and he was able to shave minutes of his runs during his running season in the pool he found he didn't really have any. Anything to in real time. Check his data. You don't have to stop his swimming session to a walk outside of the pool. This many focus on his four and who's counting laps in his mind, which took his mind office stroke, so in order to fix this with his partners. They developed a hydrogen sealed case Swiss could use the own goggles, which had a holographic display in to get real time feedback and swim wants to enable you to focus on your strokes whilst being aware of your data. So you can swimming see through a hundred graphic display in your goals all sorts of history as I said, it's not Carney able to purchase, but you can sign updates via websites. And the estimate is the device will retail for just under one thousand six hundred dollars. So at this price point, I would imagine it's for competitive swimmers at the top of the game trying to incrementally improve performance. So this this this takes you can see for the holy graphic display of all time your split times and your distances. On you can sort mobile streams of data of south which enables you to focus on your style, and your form and for more swim as actually working on having a GPS feature attached as well. So you can track you'll distances and see the route you took as well. So if you want to practice same swim again, so really exciting tank, again, it's the only thing really could find that at little realtime dates without you having to check your small watch. And into of your rhythm. Cadence so small will be the go-to solution ready for those looking to improve that pace as they swim and to keep their workouts without interrupting session each time. So there we have a number of its attack. Only believe help you swim foster please again through in touch if you've used an embassy tech or excites, you if you're swimming. What you think about this on tech at your someone who is just getting into swimming? Do you think this would benefit you? What is your experience with swimming getting touch and let us know? Is there any device you've been using the conversation with you say really have. Enjoyed will cut. You very soon.

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ASCDI member K&P Computer focuses on managed services for growth, Podcast

Telecom Reseller

18:18 min | 2 months ago

ASCDI member K&P Computer focuses on managed services for growth, Podcast

"This is the green and I'm the publisher of Telecom reseller and today and with Rainer by player. Who's the head of managed services for candy computer, Manor. Thank you very much. Bringing us today. That class thank you for the opportunity today to speak with you. This is a special podcast. We're going to be doing basically the introductory asci podcast for the s p e. I n for knp computer but also going to be posting this on T our Publications. And we're going to be really talking about not only knp computer have, but also the way home computer has managed to transform itself inside a transforming market. So first of all, what is k? M p computer K p computers with german-based TPM company. We are in the market since 36 years and we have been founded as a GPM Company Shooting. The use, we already started a kind of transformation course, we were searching for ways to become a business partner, and 2011, our trim and our wishes come true. We became at the TPM company. Um, this partnership with IBM in the same year with h, p e, with two recent article and all the other players and the market and Thursday is something really special for us. But anyway, what we are doing actually is we are like kind of transformation. We are. Yep. Transformation way to become a managed service provider course. We see in this is a very fast-growing business and also want to participate in this kind of business. Now, why did you feel and continue to feel that transforming yourself into a managed service? Provider is so important. I'm it's we've got pick up the feeling in yet, fifteen years ago with the first, um, IBM AIX system back, when the customer ask us how you can pee. Can you do the replacement of the hard drive? But as you can see, you can even replace it. Do you happen to have to do some special thing on the CLI like the software mirror thing and all the other stuff. This is what's the first step of a kind of managed services off and over the years more and more of our customers ask are taking people, are you able to give us a kind of support for example for operating systems? Or are you able to do Monday towing services for our system and as well for our operating system? And this is some examples, we sat in the past, the case we wage Create a new division in our company called managed services. And in 2011, I started the business with managed services and, and nowadays or booming engine. Actually last year, we had enclosed about 25% with managed services. And these are in many, many different ways. For example, monitoring Services, updates, and Patch management, for example, or as well, also, as a, kind of insurance for our customer and they they buy a kind of insurance, for example, for Microsoft Exchange or Microsoft 365. And in the case, that any problems they can call us and we will solve the problem. Other ways, we will directly escalate the case through our Business Partnership wage For example, with Microsoft, Microsoft. So, there are many benefits for customers if they making contract with us in and for managing. So can you walk me through what those managed services are in detail? Yes. Should so there is no money. For example, there is no standards mesh service contract, so it will be always an individual contract for our customers course. Our customers have completely dead and needs. We want to fulfill. For example, some customers say, hey I even do not longer have Nike Department. Can you be my It department and feel responsible for all things? And IT department is responsible for, for example, roll out for new laptops and Thursday. This money touring for everything, which is in the data Centre. This includes also the update and Patch management for new security and Bug fixes also to be the contact person for the whole lifecycle for everything, which the customers have been there department. And this is one, good example and Thursdays. And the most cases are the most contact, actually a cover only, Special parts of Nike Department many customers that hey can you please be responsible for The Back-up management and so what we will do, we will bring some looks to the back of reports, for example, daily and we will see. Okay, what's your backup chop successful? And if not, we are off on the search. What was the reason that they started back up? The shop was not successful, or for example, monitoring services. And as you can imagine, I can monitoring everything. Every device is UR. Could be added in the monitoring services in the monitoring system. And so, this is also a really, really big feeling of business fields. We are actually operating for our, for our customers. Now, has it made a change inside your company in terms of recurring income? I'm definitely. So honestly, the TPM business and I can tell you it hit. Everyone is always the best business app for income, but you also generate in line linear income. This managed services. And what we see actually is wage. That's unbelievable. Big need in the market for managed Services. The reasons for example, are that there are less people in the market, who can, who can be hired for it chops. Another thing is also the, the Verity and took it off. I T topics 90 Department, nowadays have to face this much larger than ten years in the past. And this is also Curry's a reason why many companies decides to start it, you have managed service trusted provider who is focused on different topics and also socialized and and different topics and can fulfill this need for the customer. So you just brought up a very interesting point I've heard before and that is odd, but in addition to actually providing the services and so on, you've become more of a relationship to the clients that you have. Yes, this is really, really a good point. So like like you can imagine if you are a trusted advisor and and the manage service provider you will be faced with everything in the company, which going on, for example, customer needs new licenses licensing for for office. Um she needs both devices like laptops or smartphones, he needs new server, cost the vocal work load is very large and you will be the trusted advisor and also the the single mom of contact for everything. And so in this situation it's a very useful also to have Partnerships and then you can fulfill many of this month um needs for the customers and for all the other needs in my mind, it's yeah. Important to have a big a partner ecosystem and to ask you. Yep. No, and who maybe can help you with other things, you can fulfill for the customer. Now are you continuing to sell traditional equipment as well? Yes. Sure. It's still one of our Core Business Office. Uh next to 2 p.m. and managed services to to sell server storage Network equipment and all the other stuff, but everything we actually do an IT project. Like a selling project will always direct the selling manage service contract on top wife. Call me directly want to check the connection to the customer and the most of our customers also want directly have some connection to us, for example, for the update and Patch management that directly say to us. Hey, can you be responsible for all this update stuff? Like, installing new update security update, twice or four times a year and yep. This is actually for us and and process which is quite normal. If you say hey we are selling Hardware with affective want to put a managed service contract on top. So in addition to the managed services and now you are talking also you continue to sell conventional products. What are those products that you sell? Mostly it's the typical internet server storage and network equipment. Things we are, we are. I'm selling to our customers. For example, from HP proliant, uh, some IBM, HP storage and also a Cisco and HP Aruba and network equipment. Do you find that a lot of the customers are the same. In other words, historically you sold these products and now you're selling managed services to them as well. The issue actually wage in Chevrolet in Austria nearly four thousand customers and mostly as can be customers and actually off of the $3,000, nearly 4,000 customers. Uh, we have an active manage service contract with actually 500 customers come back and hear our goal is to expand our business to the rest of the GPM customers with Verizon access manager, service contract, I was just about to ask you, who your customers are. They are in all branches. Some customers may be all also, they'll be well known outside Germany for example with me as soon as the largest electronical Stellar in in Europe and we are responsible for the for the market stores across Europe. And yeah, and FOX also for example, McDonald's in Germany is one of our customers but the the most of our customers are they're not dead popular and well-known companies mostly hitting Champions. And the S&P markets has security become an important topic and also service to sell Yeah, it's one of our driver topics in the last couple of years suffers who is one of the Williams for security products, page released and study last year, that 54% of the German companies had been attacked in the last 24 years rent somewhere. And this is a really, really large number. And yeah. And, and also, since at what Snowden, we also have Thursday, uh, say thanks to to him the whole sexuality products and they all the security topic is more in the phone cuz then ten years ago. And actually, it's, it's a bad situation. I have to say resolve this Wrentham bear attacks. We have across the world wage And so it's more than error crucial in my mind to, to, have a strong partner, or as well as strong, i t, a team who is responsible to protect the whole company against this kind of a text, as we sort of complete our portrait of knp, how large your company is knp computer off. Yeah, we want. We are not the, the largest player globally. We are 170 people as knp, and as well. And nineteen more people with a company, we have acquired last year at called loop on file. So in some way about 250 employees in in Germany and in Austria, that's a pretty significantly sized company, though, it could be us. And but actually, we want to suspend or portfolio, went to expand our business, and it's not quite easy to find more employees in the job market and in Germany, and Austria wage it. It's really difficult. And for example, I actually on the search for, for 15 more employees and it's quite hard to find the right guys here. And In the stock market, you know, you recently joined the ascd. I just a few months ago, Why the ascd? I I'm good question. Louis? And yeah, there are a couple of reasons. And one of the reasons is we want to share information and I really like it to have. I have some discussion about different topics. Everyone in the TPM Market is faced with them. And, for example, if there are new and not entitlements from the or, for example, if there, if there are new market possibilities, and yeah, there, there could be one hundred thousand reasons. And what we really like and what we also want to do is to be one part of the community and we want to share information what we say. Hey, this could be useful for for everyone and yeah. And this the reason we say, hey this is the, the perfect uhm. Yeah, Community to do this. Have you already had a chance to use any of the ascd eyes services? Actually not, but hopefully after Cove it uh uh, we can use them as well. We're certainly may be looking forward to meeting you in person at one of these meetings. Yeah. Hopefully and hopefully all the other guys. Also I know some of the other companies in the ACT I but yeah, I'm I'm also open to to learn the other companies who have joined the Network's Marina. I want to thank you very much for joining me today. This has been very interesting and it's been a good start to understanding knp computer and understanding what you guys bring to the table, where can we learn more about your company? First of all, also thanks to the doctors for the opportunity today to speak with you if you can inform yourself through our website, k p c. N or as well through our social media channels like an Instagram page book or or LinkedIn. Or if you have any questions just connect me to a LinkedIn or directly with my contact details in the member base and feel free. And to contact me when you, thank you very much indeed. I know we're going to be doing this again to learn more news and information about camping computer, but for now, thanks very much. Thank you as well.

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Managing Plaque Psoriasis with Biologics in Women of Childbearing Potential

JCMS: Author Interviews (Listen and earn CME credit)

28:47 min | 1 year ago

Managing Plaque Psoriasis with Biologics in Women of Childbearing Potential

"Good day, I'm Kirk Barber. I'm the editor-in-chief of the Journal of cutaneous medicine and surgery and today. I'm bringing you a special edition of jcms author interviews today. We're not going to be looking at a supplement that appeared in the jcms in July August 2020. The supplement was supported by a grant from UCB Canada and titled management of plaque psoriasis with biologic therapies and women of childbearing potential today. I'll be talking to dr. Jensen young a dermatologist in the medical director of the phototherapy Education and Research Center of Women's College Hospital in Toronto. Dr. Young is also an assistant professor of in dermatology at the University of Toronto and an associate editor of here at jcms. Well, thanks to dr. Young for joining us today Johnson. Thank you very much. Yeah. Thanks Kirk for having me again. Yeah, and and I'm really looking forward to having a chat with you about the article. Thank you and your co-authors put in JC mess as a supplement and you've developed a consensus paper for that. It was very topical and needed and I'm assuming that your group collectively had some interesting conversations as you developed this consensus document. Yeah, you know many of us we go through many different conferences and many a sports. This is always a topic that comes up consistently and so I think that really trigger how divorce consensus paper was develop. So I think that too many of us who treat a lot of patients with psoriasis they use of biologics to treat song Isis in women of childbearing potential has been in ongoing area of concern with very limited practical guidance available to direct clinicians off their treatment positions with females representing about half of the psoriasis patients that we see in the clinic this topic of treating young fertile female patient. It's a significant concern and yet the published data in this cohort of patience is limited to your point chance and I could call when the biologics first were on the market and we would have these discussions about how to treat women of childbearing potential and we were frightened because your point is well taken their job was so little literature to give us any guidance whatsoever that we all avoided it. And in fact there were there were many of our colleagues that would not treat wage. Might have childbearing potential with biologic therapies based on the fact that we had no idea. What was going on. I was just going to say I was most impressed by your by the literature review that was done here. This is a look at your from 95 to October 29th. So the last or 2019 rather I want to congratulate you and your co-authors on the on on the development that you put this on a subject to through its really comprehensive and very well-researched. Thank you for acknowledging that and I I should say that I was only a very very small part of it. I there were any other dermatologist most of whom were more experience than me and we all contributed a lot to offer to the paper and it's it's not just my work and you know, I think that the reason that we went back so many years was that as you know that many parallel clinical trial They always exclude pregnant and nursing women. So it's very hard to find information that we want. It just from pivotal phase 3 trial. So we really had to go back to wage too many different Publications including animal models to to get as much information as we could. That was why they're there are so many Publications that were included in in this analysis and it shows and and I want to say that the peer reviewers in the journal as we put each of these supplement articles through the exact same peer review process that we put through put all jcms articles through it's a it's a critical process and the reviewers were were highly lots of praise for the amount of worth the depth that you went into with regard to this. So one thing it's maybe get into the content a little bit here and and I really enjoyed the first section actually wage. And that was just the the way you approach the overview the effective psoriasis on pregnancy and the fact of pregnancy on psoriasis and it was a nice capsule and I wonder and and off and the half of all pregnancies are unplanned. And I think that was the critical bit here, right? Yeah, almost 50% of all pregnancies are unplanned. That's that's shocking right? That's a shocking number which song reminds us that pregnancy is something that we as clinicians need to take into consideration when talking to and treating women of childbearing potential and the fact is that the one we see patients in the clinic many many many women, they they attempt to manage their disease off their own without seeking advice or even informing their health care provider upon discovering that they're pregnant, you know, just as we age Need to be aware of the impact that certain medications can have during pregnancy. We also need to inform our patients that and and control disease can potentially have that track to effect on their developing baby as well. So I think it goes both ways. So I think that covers the the the main reason why we design such a section one in this paper. Yeah. Yeah, and I and I thought and you know that the number of people that are number of women that went into our mission during pregnancy was, you know a lot higher than what you know to hear you. Again, it's fifty percent of women experienced clinical Mission. I mean the fifty percent of women don't and need significant help during the course of their pregnant. I think that I say remember in in residency new study abroad That well, you know in psoriasis during pregnancy you you may not need to treat those patients because psoriasis almost always gets better during pregnancy, but but but that that might be true to a certain extent but about 10 to 20% of of patients off during pregnancy, they experienced disease flare or even worsening of their of their psoriasis symptoms and some might even have their their pregnant trigger the onset of psoriatic arthritis and you know in additional although it's quite rare that a subset of women they develop pustular psoriasis which needs immediate treatment. So I think that it's critical to have conversations on conversations on this topic early and to perhaps Implement wage. Multidisciplinary approach to control the disease once they're pregnant. Yeah. Yeah, and and of course, once you're pregnant, you know, the the issue of disease or condition is well, it's great if it happens if it doesn't we need to deal with it and then in the postpartum period the the drill is that there's another potential flare and in fact, the number that white hai-ya the data shows that about forty to ninety percent of women, they experience a postpartum player. And even for for this reason our group encourages optimizing psoriasis care during pregnancy and proactively counseling patients during the postpartum period as well, you know, if the birth was stopped during pregnancy unless clinically contraindicated it is saved to resume. The biologic therapy immediately after giving birth, of course when the the ones have peeled and so far there's some some limited data off that indicates that there's minimal transport of biologics into breast milk and as a result breastfeeding is a viable option for a new mothers who are who are taking biologics month. Uhm. So if I can summarize if we're dealing with women of childbearing potential women planning pregnancy, we have that individual on a biologic we can keep individual on a biology because we got a pretty good idea for biologics her safe early in pregnancy. There's there's the convention to consider stopping at about the 32nd and 33rd week as the placental transfer of these antibodies kept hers and then restarting as quickly as you say wage. As we can as long as we know that infection has the risk of infection has passed is that got a pretty good summary of our convention today. I think you summarized it quite well, I I don't know if we can go as far as saying that biologics are safe during pregnancy, but I would say that what we have learned so far is that maybe and Logics are not considered unsafe. So I think that being safe and okay, I'm safe. It's a little bit different, you know, unfortunately, there's minimal data in Inhumans on on the topic of continuing biologics throughout the later stages of pregnancy data shows minimal transfer of IGG antibodies in the in the first trimester, but at around 16 weeks the placenta begins expressing the neonate ofc received. Through that actively transports immunoglobulin from mother to baby and that transfer Peaks during the third trimester of pregnancy and and off and and physiologically that provides the infant with the antibodies that are needed for immunity during the first three to six months of life as their own immune system matures, but at the same time when a pregnant women is receiving this receiving a biologic and those those antibodies are being transferred. Um in the second and third trimester to to the infant as well with the exception of certolizumab antibody-based biologic therapies of built on the IGG framework and include the FC portion and therefore they they are transported actively across the placenta birth. In the second and third trimester, so it's the significance of the the presence of these biologics in in in in the fetus during the second and third trimester. As I said so far there hasn't been any data that has demonstrated any travel genetic effects on the fetus, but I don't know if we can conclude that biologics are safe when I'm when when the fetus exposed us to add ring the second or third trimester. Well, we have a little bit of information from the IBD folks. I mean and and and the idea there is they keep their patients on drug or many of them on drug throughout their pregnancies because the Calamity of birth Disease exacerbation during pregnancy can be quite devastating. So we'll do it. It's how we've learned. Yeah with the exception of infliximab which is often wage stopped in the third trimester, bye-bye, G is in the in the treatment of IBD and and and also in in Rheumatology as with that I think rheumatologists have had more experience in in treating patients with Rheumatology diseases with biologics than we have and they they're they're more comfortable with continuing biologics during pregnancy than than dermatologists are and and and that is why wage paper. We've included some of the data from from both the Rheumatology and and the GI literature to make this paper wage. Yeah, more more robust. I would say yeah, but very complete and table to is the the summary of biologic therapies used in women of childbearing potential. It's very complete off. So now if we can go for a minute into your consensus statements, it appears from the numbers in your consensus statements that the majority by far strongly Agree to Agree to each of the the published statements here must have been been quite the job to get a group of people together to go through each of these individually as you know, we you know, many of us within that group Or quite strongly opinionated and to come up with with consensus statements as you alluded to Thursday. It's not an easy job. Yeah, so many of the statements we had to revise and to to vote again and some of the statements were not included in in bath 12 that reached consensus that they were included in the in the supplement many of the statements are not black and white. It's it's not something that is so easy to to agree upon and as you can see that none of the twelve statements all nine of us strongly agree with with with with any of the statements it was it was a challenge and it was a process that took a lot of time and a lot of discussion to revise the statement to to make everyone feel that their statement really rep. That's how they Envision I'd like to spend a minute done two things the 8th and 9th of your twelve statements. The 8th is with regard is in the treatment consideration section. I'll just read it based on real-world experience and animal toxicology data tnf-alpha and I'll 1223 Inhibitors have not demonstrated teratogenicity home or increased risk of negative Maternal-Fetal outcomes experience with I owe 17 Dial 23 Inhibitors in pregnancy is limited and the result was three people strongly agreed with that statement off and six agreed. Nobody disagreed. Yeah. So I think that this is actually one of the statements that has achieved the most often consensus of The Twelve statements. We we do have limited real war experience and animal toxicology data that's available and that dog Did not suggest that tnf-alpha Inhibitors or IO 1223 inhibitor or trailer. Janick nor do they increase the risk of negative Maternal-Fetal outcomes. But at the same time that with the the newer biologics that are available such as I am Seventeen and dial 23 Inhibitors that are becoming more and more popular. We really don't have much experience in these agents off to make a statement as to whether they are trailer genic or not. So it took us quite some time to arrive at that statement and maybe many of us we feel that I owe 17 and I owe 23 Inhibitors. They are also Relatively safe in pregnancy, but we just don't have the data to make a statement of that. So we're sort of where we were with the introduction and T. Exactly. Yeah, I think maybe in five or ten years. We will have a second draft of of this paper and a better idea. So of course, there's always another person involved in this and that's the neonate. So it takes me to a consensus statement number nine and it reads with the exception of surrealism AB infants exposed to biologics during the last two trimesters of pregnancy may have detectable drug levels office and administration of live vaccines is not recommended until after six months of age and in your group. We have one person that strongly agrees and eight who agree help me understand the deliberations here when you look at the all the twelve statements that we have. This is perhaps one of the statements that we all pretty much agreed on so all of us voted off, Either agree or strongly agree versus most of the other statements. So the first part of the statement so Circle ISM a bit. It's the only viable that we use in psoriasis that was study in in pregnant women as you know that as I again, as I said earlier that with clinical trials young women who are pregnant or who are nursing they were excluded from from clinical trials, but in one of the trials that was performed with certolizumab women of at least Thirty women who were at least 30 weeks pregnant who were receiving certolizumab were included in this trial along with their newborns. So in this trial blood samples are collected and a safe for plasma concentrations of drug at delivery. 4 and 8 weeks postpartum and results showed pretty much that the maternal drug levels were in the expected range, but in infants there were undetectable drug levels pretty much at Birth and at 4 and and eight weeks. So I think it provides a lot of comfort to clinicians and and to patients that there's there's really very little transfer of drug from birth mothers to infants with certolizumab. So that that's why we we included that statement and then I guess the second part of that statement it's about vaccinations and of course, we at the back at the back of our mind that we always thinking about this month. That's mother who receive infliximab during pregnancy near near the end of of her of her her pregnancy and in the infant bath receive a BCG vaccine who eventually died after getting that vaccine and you know, this is something that we always think about giving a live vaccine to home and infants who was Mother received. A biological agent during pregnancy and and I think that that that's the only case that that that has been published by the way and find but it is something that we always think about. Okay. Well if the mother receive any type of biologic during pregnancy special near the end of the pregnancy whether the child should receive any light vaccinations and that's why we came up with the statement that that the child should wait for at least six months before he or she should receive that live vaccine well six months because the IGG antibody will be destroyed and not not influence in a child's immune system and and the other point that this makes it quite distinct from the tnf-alpha inhibitor work which shows wage. Second transplant Central transfer up to the point and I think you mentioned in the article in the third trimester can reach approximately 50% of the maternal levels wage. So, you know clearly I can see why you have consensus and the statement it's cuz this is so distinctly different than what we've been working with in our own nation and probably the reason that in 2020 the bjd guidelines consider sort of ism a big as the first line choice in women planning conception a torque. I think one thing that you have seen many patients and I've seen many patients and I think that you know, despite the fact that you tell you tell pregnant women that by the way, this truck has not been shown to be harmful to your child. I don't think that provides enough Assurance to the pregnant mother that well, you know, because the fact that you don't suck Enough data to show that it's not harmful to my baby. I just don't want to take that risk. I don't want to I don't want my baby to have any to have any drug in his or her system. And you know, I think that's some I think that's something that goes through many pregnant women's minds. I think Iraq and you know, we we talked about the fact that we currently we don't have any data to suggest that any biologic which has demonstrated knowledge in the city in in fetuses, but at the same time if a patient had a choice, they I think they would rather not be exposed there with their infant to any any any drug if if that's an option. Yes and something that again we need to discuss all of this early and Ed. Not late after someone is pregnant and already on their drug. So so the we've got the data on pregnant patients long as you point out we exclude from a previous research trials and it's got a it's got to bring some comfort to people not if they're even if they're not worried about themselves about their need for sure found and they can vaccinate as they wish there's I think that that's another the whole other discussion of course, but but the idea is the fact that there's no there's no deductible drug level in there and their newborn as you point. It's got to be got to be good and and tell me to go one step further. Let's talk about breastfeeding for a second cuz that'll be the other thing that would be of concern to a birth mother. So so Kirk to your point. In fact, there's very limited data in this topic of the presence of of biologic in in breast milk and with them. Limited data that shows that there's minimal transport of biologics into into breast milk in general. So as a result breastfeeding is a viable option for a new age others who are taking biologics but amongst all biologics that we use to treat psoriasis certolizumab is the only one that has performed a prospective study to support that there is no to minimal transfer of drug into breast milk. So again another thing to talk about with that very very very first discussion and birth minder that we should all be having that discussion in any woman of childbearing potential that we're considering starting on any of the biological agents. It's a good remains. Absolutely. Yes. So now we've talked a lot about this issue and and as I pointed out earlier, this is the best piece of evidence. We have and you know mid twenty or towards the end of 2020 and I and I think that the management of plaque psoriasis is in women of childbearing potential has been significantly Advanced by the work of you and your colleagues. Is there anything else that you want to talk about that? It came to light during your deliberations with regard to treating this group of patients. I think that to summarize our discussion here. How may decided to embark on this project was was mainly because we wanted to have a full understanding of how we could provide enough counselling and education to women who are either considering pregnancy or or pregnant dead. to give them the best advice that we could based on the the evidence that we have I think that that's essentially how we decided to to start this this this project and you know to to summarize it I think that in order to have a healthy baby need to have a healthy mother and so it is ideal to have low disease activity or or remission going into pregnancy and off during pregnancy and after pregnancy so I think that the goal is for us is to come up with ways that can help patients achieve that fantastic I mean it's all about communication at the end of the day off and education so thank you for spending the time with us I think you've summarized the our challenge very well yeah thank you for having me I was dr. Jose And young the medical director of the phototherapy Education and Research Center and Toronto Women's College Hospital. I hope you enjoyed my conversation with our two young. The article itself will be available to you free of charge for three weeks. It can be accessed at the JCPS website. Once the podcast has been posted. I'm hopeful that you will subscribe to a JC mess author interviews as it is really a pleasure to bring these topics to you and the greater the audience the more joy, we have been doing it. This podcast was sponsored by UCB Canada as a special supplement to the JCS author interview series. I'm Kirk Barber. Thanks so much for listening until next time be good to each other.

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BM151: How to Schedule Your Time More Effectively

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BM151: How to Schedule Your Time More Effectively

"If you're an author or plan to be one get excited because this podcast is for you book marketing mentors is the only podcast dedicated to helping you successfully market and sell your book. If you're ready for impounding conversations with successful marketing mavens, then grab a coffee or tea and listen to your host international. Bestselling author, Susan Freedman. Welcome to marketing mentors. The weekly podcast where you learn proven strategies, tools, ideas, and tips from the most is every week under juice you to a marketing Mazda will share their expertise to help you mock it and Selma books today. My guest mentor of the week is scheduling expert. Gabin's Alinsky is the founder of acuity, scheduling the slickest wave of businesses to automate and manage their appointments online, align clients to schedule themselves. Gavin is self professed tech, geek, and express, oh, maniac a word. He doesn't use lightly who wholeheartedly believes that business should be fun. I am completely on that track. Acuity scheduling support circle. Fifty thousand businesses of all sizes from. People working for themselves to major corporations with thousands of employees that customer support is unmatched in the industry as they focus on easy and pain. Free scheduling with one on one support as they help that clients, businesses grow and try Gavin, what a pleasure it is to welcome you to the show and thank you for being this week's guest expert and mental. Thank you for having me on here. Before we saw talking about your business and all the wonderful things that acuity Kazuko scheduling, let's get to the basics, which really is all about time management. How can we better manage our time? What's the secret? Gavin. I wish there was just one secret. Would that just make it so much so much easier? Yeah. Before people come to acuity, we see them, you know, mostly businesses who are scheduled appointments, but we see them come from all different ways from folks who are extremely regimented and have every minute of their day blocked out inside of their online goal calendar to people who are running around completely scattered with maybe at most a paper appointment book with crossed out and scribbled areas and things criss cross throughout. But I think the the one big theme that we see with all people is that if you're really not tracking what you're doing, there is no way to get better at time management, and there's no way to figure out where is you actually need to improve. It's one of those things where it's like a death by thousand cuts recap so many little things coming in. And if you're not planning and you're not. Taking a head and you're not having those retrospective moments to look at how you actually spend your time. It is so much harder to actually improve what you're doing. I can attest to that because I'm willow the place. And I know that having Suda some kind of schedule where I can really sort of plan my day really helps whether I stick to it. One hundred percent is another thing, but having. It makes all the difference. Ging schedule is critical. How do you even go about managing schedule? The most effective way that we've seen people come to us is when they're doing just blocking off time for specific tasks, like it's much easier to think about things on a high level, maybe on Sunday night to realize what your top priorities are, that you know in your business, you know, like I want to rights at least a thousand words, and I wanna make sure that I have meetings with peers to make sure that it network, and I wanna make sure that I have some business contact meetings to try to expand my reach, eventually things flow or something like that. But you identify those and you know what your priorities are there. But once things come into action often that can slip away. So taking time in advance to block out and say, I am writing only during this time blocking that out and don't let anything else since you've established that as a. Priority in advance. Not letting anything else in Croce onto that time is so so important. It's very easy just to let things slip away and have people, you know, say, oh, let's meet up for coffee this time and this time and like, oh, I've got a run, take the kids somewhere else, and it's not enough time to really get into the pattern of things. There's that switching costs between asks to even just for say, managers accompany having a one on one with an employee on Tuesday morning and another one on one on a Wednesday afternoon and another one. Like on a Friday afternoon. There's that switching cost from, you know, going from your normal day to day tasks to into meeting mode and that type of thing. So I always recommend for folks is think about your priorities, lock off, solid, decent sized blocks of time when you can do that, like just block off Monday morning for all of your one on ones that way your mind gets into that mode. When you're thinking about talking to the other person and you can go through all of those meetings all well, y-. You're still in the same frame of mind and then switch off to another task. So trying to block out, prioritize, don't let other people take up your time said it doesn't become fragmented like that and especially grouping similar tasks together while you're still in the same frame of mind can make you so so much more productive and just in general, hopefully make you feel like you have much more control of your time to for interesting, because I think the time that I was most organize was when I'm writing my berry Firth book and I set aside two hours in it was in the evening. Now I would do it in the morning because I will better now in the morning, but for me at the time in the evening, two hours where I just sit down and just write and nothing would stand between me and getting the job done, whether I wrote one would or three pages, it didn't matter that was the block of time. That I just allowed myself to do it and it was extraordinarily productive because you sort of mindset, have you found that with your clients the if you get into that mindset that it really works? Oh, my gosh. I mean, we hear from a lot of people kind of, like you mentioned, I work best on this type of thing in the morning, like most creative in the morning. So try to have things then add to that is definitely what I'd recommend is figuring out that natural rhythm of your day and blocking out those large chunks of time for tasks when you work best. For me personally, I can do emails at anytime like the afternoon when there's that little slump after lunch is a great time to knock out emails doing something a little bit more creative, doing product planning and things like that. Probably best in the morning when I'm nice and fresh, especially right after I've had some coffee. But to be honest, the much bigger mistake that we see from people is it's not. No, knowing that you're better in the morning versus the evening or anything else that sometimes can add to much pressure when it doesn't naturally aligned with the external pressures of your day of taking kids to school or anything like that. But just what you're saying of just frankly, just blocking out that time and making sure keeping that as the holy time that nobody can intrude on is so so important and that kind of gets into being good at saying, no. I mean, let's say you've already gotten to the point when you laid out like writing as the absolute most important thing for me. I am going to block out this time from three to five pm every afternoon to work on something like that. You have gone miles ahead of most people that we end up seeing. So the next step though is that can easily slip away if you start saying. Yes, the too many things you start saying? Yes to things during that time. I mean after all, especially when it's something that you're doing on your own, it's not like there's an external pressure for you to keep that as if you are. Going to dentist appointment or something else. And we see too often that people will slip up and they'll give away that time that they locked out before and saying, no is sounds very simple. You've already gone through the hard part of prioritizing and blocking. Now it's time to preserve what you've already established and over the long term. That's one of those things that we see. So many people have difficulty with is just saying, yes, the little coffee meeting saying yes to something about meeting friend out saying yes to the, you know, the business associate who wants to meet you tomorrow, but it's during your writing our and all that slips away. So now you lose at frame of mind and you are less productive during the other times, a console easily slip away, but keeping that even if it's time just for yourself and recognizing that as a real meeting on your calendar, even if it's with yourself and something that you can't break is important. To making sure that you stay successful in the long term is so funny. I had to chuckle when you said learn to say no, because my husband has helped me practice. The would know. I'm so good at agreeing to do things especially for other people. And then I bring my own things that I want to do. I mean, they fooled by the wayside because I want to be helpful and I want to do things for others and learning to say no, is just sort of paramount. I know we hear that actually when people start using acuity for scheduling things, they'll use it for business and all that to automate the appointment setting. But then sometimes we'll see some creative folks go in and they'll set up a separate schedule for like coffee meetings with friends, and I was interviewing somebody wants, and they mentioned how they loved doing that because they would often get emails from people at as like, hey, I really like gotta catch up about this. And I really urgently want to meet you tomorrow during this afternoon. And instead of having to say no to them, they just say, yes, sure. Just book a coffee meeting like it's not something to do with their business at all, but they still send them. They're scheduling link and they just let the app the scheduler sort of say no for them when they see that the next available time that they can meet for coffee as two weeks from now, they told me that they just end up seeing people going. Oh, okay. Two weeks from now, that works perfectly well too. It's not as urgent as they made it out to be. I think that's. Brilliant. Something that you said earlier about Email. I try very hard. I won't say that I stick to it completely, but try very hard not to look at Email. First thing in the morning, I want to get my creative work done. And you've mentioned that earlier to is the idea of being more creative. I am now more in the morning and Email just gets put aside or anything like, you know any of the social media platforms. Because once you go down those rabbit holes, I mean, you get so distracted and one thing leads to another and before you know it, you know, you've eaten up to three hours and got nothing done. I know, especially with Email, sue because the faster you respond to the faster people respond to you often. So ends up sucking up even more of your time. I am terrible though. All admit, I do wake up and look through my Email and everything else just because I'm like, oh gosh, I hope everything is up and running. Just make show. There no emergencies or anything else meant try to move on and then some time reading to reset before I get into everything else for the day is interesting because people can't even believed that you don't look at your Email like all the time. If I didn't, you get my Email while may be, but I just haven't checked him on. Okay. Saying that in fact time feel very comfortable saying that, yeah, sometimes I'll try to like block out where I go through emails all at once. I'm not always the greatest at that too, but I love the app Luma rang for g mail because I'm g mail all the time and instead of responding to somebody five minutes afterwards, I can schedule the emails go out like two hours later that way they don't respond as quickly. And it often seems like the speed with which he respond to somebody, sets the expectation for future interactions that if you're the type of person to always take like six hours to respond than if they see three hours later, it's not a surprise. But if you're the type of person to always respond within five minutes and future emails are always expected at five minutes to so managing that that speculation is a challenge sometimes to boomerang, I'm not familiar with that one too about that. Oh, yeah. I love that one. So that is at least for me personally, I'm the type of. Where like I love having inbox zero. So nothing sitting in my inbox and with my to do list also very organized on that. But meringue does to great things that I really like. It's an extension that you add into chrome or g. mail or whatever, and it will let you send an Email later. So I can say like send this type draft up a response that I want to send and automatically send it to a person, but say, you know, send us in two hours and tomorrow morning, that type of thing. You can even say like only send this if the person hasn't responded to. So it's great to think about things once and then follow up automatically and have that string go in there. And then second to is that you can have messages instead of just having them sit in your inbox. If there you know some sort of tasks that you have to do related to the Email, but it's not something that you're going to do today. You can have meringues that makes it disappear from your inbox, but then come back in, say a week or something like that. So that you can get to that state where you're really only focusing on things that in your inbox actively need to take care of law that, oh my goodness. I love the idea of not having anything in my inbox. It's lovely once he gets that state if feels very disturbing. And you have even one hundred emails in the inbox choke to about from the stakes. You've mentioned one earlier, but one of the mistakes we make when it comes to our own time management at all. Like I mentioned earlier, that just that inability to say, no, when things come in and interrupt your day is probably one of the biggest ones. And then the the second thing too is just it's too often that people just expect their day to go along as they had planned it that taking an active role and recognizing what is most important, and then scheduling that out, making sure those really just those two separate tasks from managing your day today is. Is so so important to the other mistake that we see people make, especially after you know, you start to get into the rhythm of good time management and everything else as not taking time to reflect on either what your week tends to look like. Now, like I know for me, personally, I have dozens of meetings throughout the week and every so often you know, a lot of these will be regularly. Recurring things will have product meetings or one on ones with employees, that type of thing. But it tends to get fragmented over time. It's like having an old windows computer. You just need to like defragment it every once in a while where you just go through, you look at everything on your calendar and just reschedule everything to get back into those time blocks that you originally had planned on. It's sort of getting started is one thing then making sure that as you go forward into the future, things don't get crazy out of control is something completely different along with that looking. At those meetings that you always have coming up for the week and blocking out the times when you want at hawk things in there and defragment in your day from all those recurring meetings that might be scattered about sue can have those all back to back just taking time to look at what you had in the last week to and being a little bit introspective, making sure that if something did come and interrupt your day, I find it very helpful to add that your calendar during the day, not necessarily because you need it on the calendar too, though that it's coming up because it's already happened, but just that when you look back in a week, you know your time has actually gone because if you don't know what you're spending time on, you just know you felt very busy throughout the week. It's difficult to identify what you really spent time onto. So taking that little bit of extra effort to record things that you're doing, and we've seen some great apps to help people do that. There's rescue time I think is agree app, and then there's another one timely which you can say, put on your computer and it will little bit creepy. Look at what you're doing to let you know like you spend most of your. Time and word or you're spending most of your time, you know rousing around on Facebook. It can help automate a little bit of that twos that when you go back, you can see if the things that you actually spend time on really matched up with what you laid out as what your priorities were supposed to be for, where your time one is creepy, but. It is, but it's affecting too, I mean helps. But it is creepy. Yes. I remember years ago that I did teach time management programs and always got the question will, which is the best system to us. And my response to that was the one you use. The so many as you said, different programs out there, but if you don't use it, it's not gonna do anything for us. So you've gotta teach yourself how to use it to about that because I think that sometimes can be overwhelming if you feel that you have to learn a whole new program in how to use a scheduling tool. Yeah. And sometimes we'll see people come to us for Cutie scheduling where we're really intended for, you know, businesses and professionals who need sort of like the gateway to your calendar and layout those rules for what types of meetings he want when sometimes we'll see people come to us just because I don't know. They like to use a lot of apps or they think that automating it is the right thing to do, but often is, is like those personal things that we've already talked about that are more important with nowhere. You're spending your time. Lay that out first. First before you get into, you know, doing an app or anything else. Like if you're coming into acuity saying, I want to manage my time and get better at it, it's not going to help you as much as coming in and saying, I wanna spend five hours a week on one on one appointments. I want to spend no more than two hours a week on coffee dates, and I wanna make sure that I have plenty of time blocked off to do my writing and everything else. It's that second person that comes in having already thought about things that is much more effective. And in that case too, I mean, there's tons and tons of apps out there. We already laid out a few like Bloomington, help automate your inbox and set expectations and rescue time and time leads track wear spending your time. There's things like toggle which is great for freelancers time tracking all of that. But before all of that, I mean, there's so many apps out there. I get so confused by them all the time to, you know, there's acuity scheduling for managing appointments, but before all of that, you don't need all of those. You need. Something and that something often starts with organization and whatever these apps are there more potential multipliers for what you're already doing. But if you're not already established, there's nothing to multiply there to make you more effective. I think what you're saying too is there's no magic bullet when it comes to time management. Yeah, I hate to say that's going to be a a terrible podcast. Title. There's no magic bullet. Not what people want to know because always want the magic bullet. Come on, give it to me. You're sorry. I'm sorry. I'll come up with one later. This is a great I've given for you to tell listeners how they can find out more about your services in about acuity scheduling. Tell us more. Absolutely. To get in touch with me to learn a little bit more about myself until it a little bit more. I guess about how acuity scheduling can act as that gatekeeper for your calendar and start to say, no, for you head over to acuity scheduling dot com. Slash book marketing mentors. That's acu. IT y, scheduling dot com, slash book marketing mentors, and then we will put a special link on there to get an extended forty five day trial of acuity scheduling instead of our normal fourteen day trial also. That's wonderful. I know that I'm gonna be checking out because I'm always looking for good tools to use. Mets. Great. Would else would be helpful for us to. You know when it comes to organizing and a life and focus, what else would be key? Yeah. I mean, I think it's to get a little bit more into the acuity side. After you've gone, you've organized everything to me. It is so frustrating when you set up that meeting with somebody and then they know show all of a sudden, you know you're perfectly structured day ends up with this forty five minute block of time in the middle of it that you could have been much more productive at one of the next things that we always recommend for folks is probably to make sure that people show up by sending reminders and a tool like acuity scheduling can help do that to start to send out those automatic reminders or integrate with the other apps you use and start to, you know, when you're looking at how you spend your time, figuring out what areas of that you can automate away if you are, you know, going back and forth and talking with a lot of people remotely. Does it turn out that you're constantly going through the same. Repetitive tasks of logging into zoom, creating a new zoom meeting, copying the Lincoln emailing that out. If you are, there might be a better way there could be no some sort of integration with your calendar to make that even easier more something like acuity. Whenever you just add things just have things populate in their sets included and people stay up to date and they show up and hopefully all that extra redundant time can streamline to focus really on what you enjoy most question with regard to the contact with an scheduling with others. Is it better for you to call them over them to be on the calendar Couilou. Oh, man. I almost go the opposite. I love just having meeting links like we are talking over his. Uhm right now. That's the one that I find the most effective because there's no, like I Mr. call or anything else. It's sending a medium link sending, you know that joint conference room where people can call into and they can sit and wait and have people come in and show up at the same time versus having a ring that happens, you know, ten times than you might miss and have to retry for me, my personal preferences, something like zoom or go to meeting or Google hangouts or any of those who can hop on the line and get into their. And then plus you get the added benefit of being able to record things or maybe even see somebody smiling face on the other end of the line. I never thought about that. 'cause I often think about people being in that call and cooling from the since we're dealing with a load of solo who are on the move constantly. Maybe there the apple. They have a fifteen minute coal scheduled in. So sometimes phone, you know, is a lot easier than obviously getting online. I often feel that if they call may, then I'm ready for them. But if I call them even though they have had an Email or notice that says you'll meeting is set for whenever with me that if they forget, then I'm not sort of calling them and then not responding. That's just been what I found works for me, but I just wondered if you had any, you know there was a preference or was more courteous for you to be calling them. I mean, typically will see most of our users tend to be businesses, and we'll see them doing the outbound calls to other people. But I think the most important thing generally is that you're consistent and clear. There's nothing more awkward than that time. When you know you both have each other's contact information and nobody knows who's calling who setting that up and being clear at the very beginning as probably even more important than the directionality of it. That's really good because I've often had people who say, oh, I thought you according me, go away. As you know, you will be cooling Susan. They still think I will be calling that any event. Gavin, this has been great, and I was like to end with a guest, leaving listeners with a golden nugget. So what would your stay for me? It's always make sure that regardless of all of this. Time blocking that we've talked about instruction your day in prioritizing that you leave time for yourself and time to, you know, remember to reflect an enjoy and have that quiet time so that when you are working and everything else that even though advocating filling out your day and being so structured, remember to leave the open times that you can enjoy life and remember what you love doing so important, what great wisdom. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing that with them. And thank you will for taking time out of your precious day to listen to this interview, and I sincerely hope that gives you some ideas you can use to be more successful. His wishing you much marketing success. The time is now to take action and finally build your book selling empire. And the great news is that Susan is here to help you visit Fook marketing mentor dot com at sign up for a free fifteen minute book marketing strategy session with Susan, she'll help you discover your first steps to marketing and selling your book only those who take action or rewarded. So visit book, marketing mentor dot com. And we'll see you again next week. Hi, it Susan again with more marketing tips. Last week, we talked about price the second, Pete, and the traditional for p. marketing formula. Let's chat about the third and fourth marketing peas, namely promotion and placement promotion. This is the message of the promise of the story you used. Tell your target audience about your product or service. As you're probably aware there are variety of different promotional tactics ranging from advertising to fail promotion, public relations to community engagement and many more cruel techniques. Thanks to the magical power of technology. And of course, the intimate, each one of the promotion tactics is a subject all on its own, which will cover in future episodes. The fourth and final p. is for. Placement. This encompasses everything that deals with way your target audience can buy what it is you're selling. For example, will they find your products or services online in a retail store or an Castelo where ever you choose to place the items you're selling? The trick is to make the transaction as simple and easy as possible because the haughty, you make it your target audience to buy the few as sales you'll likely to make now that you have the four key marketing components that is product pricing promotion emplacement. The next step is putting them all together into a simple but usable strategy. Oh plan. And that's what will discuss in future episodes until next time. 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Batman Knightfall Part 15

Capes & Lunatics: Sidekicks

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Batman Knightfall Part 15

"This episode keeps a lunatic sidekicks is brought to you by tweaked audio. GET AWESOME! Headphones get tweaked audio dot com and use coupon code southgate get thirty percent off reshipping in a lifetime warranty, or you can get there through the link on our website. Southgate Media Group dotcom. Parents and you are listing vacation Luna take sidekicks podcast. That so apropos this episode. Welcome back to before the bats. I am feel joining me as always. GotTa to give CPR something about. You. TV Are. WAKING CPR! Rather pick a fight with your child. I wish. Oh, I think we can might the Internet. A PIAF came out. We got this covered. Over. Bitterly now that I think the I think a couple of different pages. I think they're on a narrow verse page walk. That's why we got. You covered on here. I thought we agreed we don't use. We got this covered does. No UNSUBSCRIBE. What like follow thought? I noticed there was like one guy kept. Sharing their links on, like okay, you must own it. Exactly but anyway. On more important AIDS are journey into tonight ballpark fifteen. If you're only discussing today. Yes Batman Four, ninety eight. One. What you would have thought I said. were, sixty nine sees. But no Batman four, ninety eight from and not a flashback. This one's actually takes place during nine. You know kiss. 'cause nate fog. You know we needed flashbacks. But yes, from August nineteen ninety-three. You'll know it from the. Kelly. Jones cover band ripping up. That man's keeping Kaolin. Cat woman kneeling in front of him. They get a response from lowest on. Alright so yes. Four Ninety eight nights in darkness with a K. people. So if you remember where we've been the last few parts. Bruce in the cave. Honest Gurney. He's finally waking up. The drugs were the drugs worked. Yeah. That's what drugs do. Hail Healthily. Bruce, but he beat new. Though for, don't worry sergent. jean-paul and South Fiorini member, so we kept him. We'll be enhancing the manner Security System Bank. Chance beginning in here again. Doesn't need to. He's already beat me. It's over Gotham is his. Bell I think the villains may have something to say about this. We'll see pain in his voice is going around just like. You're telling them food. Victory Lap will tell them the local mobsters either work for being now or you get shot. Nolan did it better. Air I'm and I'm the new owner of autumn. Any arguments none. We'll be glad to work with you. Work for me what you said. I gotta take out all the other gangs. There's no need everyone made pieces plenty action for everybody. except I wanted to. See this is this is where it goes on the others down starting now it was. Brazil Crinan K. beat meal for a monster so huge and I was like a baby against it. Wants to help that any beat them. You're out of media dangerous herb. There's there's no feeling legs. It's my back, isn't it? Oh? Thank you Chad the power Chad from into the night. Said Jason Todd. Did it better than Dane duffle bags all around. Nice! Turn your mic or Cam on wealth. Such devices are connected. But yes Chad. Old I guess chasing to say Jason Todd. Did it better I'll tell you did it. With more slash in. He's like Oh. Air. Some heads Foia. Bain wants to. Bain wants the criminal system to work for him. Jason Todd Kill everybody. She's talked mad dog. Hello will. I know, but it s Chad, said Jason. Todd did a better than Bain duffle bags all of Actually. Like I said being once the system will work for him just like Jason, Todd. He's totally underestimated his ability to micromanage Gotham Best Panache thank you Chad. Looking for. Ask Rule. Banning Words on this. Medical terms and I just like like. He's like he didn't beat me. Roy Me. Bruce Year drought. He gets dramatic when he heard I. Guess but Yeah Alfred. For tells them his back and he didn't me. He destroyed me. BAYNES GANGS Alone up the well basically. Blowing up, everyone. On a hot shade though he's lacking. Why thing so we The guy looked up. Wearing Green. Why is he acting? So? It's his role first failure. The. Alfred says even when he lost. Jason was out of his control. This is the first time he has faced another. I now. Control sure. Her, this is the first time he's faced another man squarely in lost. And then he's been under stress for a for mindset, prolong were deal must exact. It's torn any man. Ex uses know Tim's like I can't bear to seem like this offered. We've must got some TV offered here. He's like snap. That, that gave wall. Immediate crisis ever put the masters still needs us. Through, myself fired over it. I'm here. What do we do? They need to keep out of the hospital. Still can upstairs in offered my. Buddy here, we. Owe, Omar. Super Babes not. Oh so this club hopping. Oh. Chad Bruce gets topped pretty often, but then it gets prep time. I guess I mean we were revving up the era of bat gone, so it's like you know. No one defeats this guy. In acting specifically because they were planning for this. Here's his up, it's. Here's part of the reason why he Why he prepares for every eventuality. Exactly. Goalby what's show me? Z.. Kill kill by being an mind white by the Justice League. NOSER! Oh, we get the Vicki Vale Reference Oh Yeah. The. Ever! I mean as much love reading that I could have done without it. Doubt without Jason Todd coming back. Lord and talking about that box of blood in his head again. The fear that my next mistake can be the only. As this standing right there. Were at least. Go. All Nice Chad. Me Three times I'll need a new robin. Nice. A That family alone leave low. Bruce's Lane turn off the lights in the evening luthor. Paul. So for tells him the go call Sal, so they get working on the security system. GotTa go thanks. Dr Flat with all near. Although I Alfred says Tim. We need a cover story. Tim a car wreck. He told the Porsche. Facet Bruce. Yes, so while so while. Beating on people yeah. They're beating on the car with Sledgehammers, yes? That's. Really Know I. Kim says that's enough in overtake. Perhaps we should push off a cliff for good measure which they knew exactly right. I know! that. We try blowing up yet. Agree yes Chad. Yes. Yes? Yes, I agree. Everyone Loves Dick. CLUDING, wealth. And Peter don't forget Peter I know we all know we're here for I'm here for Dick. Rick with see. Backs in. A ward, but yes, the car went over the cliff in. You know we've. Alford Pound Preuss. Found him supposedly on the side of the road jumped. I guess he fell out right before the car went over the cliff. Like Hugh. Roar whatever you say out. The other like yeah. They want her to treat him at home. Because you know the stock, the stock, the stock price going. Oh Yeah, when it when it says we have to remember that of this. Well I say this. Again excusing you know, don't tell though Tony Won Brazilian got injured after Batman got publicly thrown into the street. A fracture side is more than a perceived weakness Mr. The! Man in serious condition. He needs a hospital in helpers like anything you need can be. I mean damn this bedrooms I know it's a rich man, but. Being pulled back the curtain. There's an x Ray hydrotherapy. People might not know. Is that a concierge? Medical things for rich people a real? Oh, yeah, but I'm just. Saying how because? I get that part I'm just saying how big's his bedroom with all that medical. The whole half weighing. Maybe I don't know maybe. Maybe they knocked out a wall. Cycle your master barrel. WanNa get into my MRI scanner. Baby. Over here comes Goudie mass. Look like Spiderwoman a silhouette. Also you're you're, GonNa, You'RE GONNA. Say something about the Lyonel for Nasca Locker. Kim Solving he wants your services as a private doctor for as long as. Long as repeal rehabilitation, the mounts. Gloss right over that Hatfill about his Doctor Tot Resolve, she can raise the done. Before You'd have to be Baddie to turn it down. Everybody's hurting them back Kona this. funky! PUNKY! But yes, as you said Count Woman's breaking in trying to break into this wall safe. When Baines men show up, there's no platinum and their nothing at all. Were Street was. Wants to meet with her at that we're on. The street was playing say? Yes, our employer would like to meet you. His name is Bain. Brad. This old doctor Pot Resolve. I can't I know like she's like listening to was heartened. She's like still steady in the. He wakes up in Manchu, plants a kiss. kind of treatment is this. But then Gordon bullock goes. On Batman. I mean unless Robbins dropping by to give you. News can be known news. He's hoping he's wishing. Were you, boo. I called you. You. Used to call me on my bad signal. Look at a back at the manor. About what happened? You approved I really can't explain it. I guess been worried about it when I saw your eyes open. Unprofessional. What Could have been worse kissing something else. I didn't Saunder you didn't. Other than weakness and pain. It was the first time in for too long that I felt anything. Like have word with you sir. Well since the break-up one. And she said yet. Elfriede Tim said you're experiencing some depression. I've suffered a loss beyond the injury. Like a hope you're not talking about. The car is a car over the Porsche number. Remember you're in shock when I found Jill. Little or no memory of your accident week week. Nudge nudge eyebrows eyebrow address. We assured the X ray and she's like Not Type you quit seemed for capable of lying. She's like he's lying. X-RAYS clearly show fulcrum type, stress fracture, not the. Moderate all kind of trauma sustained in a car crash. which in any case? Can indicates shattered through. Baths? Hi killing her yet await the. No worries. It was thrown from the car before whenever the verge landed on a larger off. That's right I. Like it. You do your mystery. The fact that you're clean your mystery. You haven't given up sides the. DIAGNOSTICIAN enjoys peeling mysteries open one layer at a time. Over here look like archer. In the bottom right panel. Helix sexy holder tubes up your nose and everything. Intimated! Ha That's true. Oh come on. Don't push it in the face. Oh come on come on. Doesn't need any AH. Ye Gods. Do you think that woman had a Bat Mitzvah? Depends on you I know women were not allowed to have apartments. Oh Yeah. Well! Modern I primarily. A look then. Jean Paul's in the kitchen watching TV. Sam's like. Phase. No one wants to hear. Second night unless he's Ciragan, father figure. Out Move Second night, one President Gangland violence nowhere to be seen, he said Gotham for the birds. You can have it. But, yeah, someone jean-paul just finished the security system in our ago because he's up laser while he's working on security, system. After words you know his life. Yeah because Austin's really gonNA be jumping tonight. The Globe was happening I'm just saying. True. Hey we're starting. Usual Dancer is she went to the hospital you know. Board in the. In the took issue no. Criminals are seeing it to natal care. The TV saying why? Why widely repeated rumors of the Batmans Death So! Yeah, they seem Shomar. Guys getting gunned down in the street. and. Tim's like Sandra Gone Your fifteen minutes ago. Thanks to her, the masters in much better spirits. She WanNa talk to him. Got It. Yeah says. With his ads. What think he knows where the decisions coming? I was at the Bunny Club thing. You Chad Butt of the joke. It's out there. Real bad and I've been thinking. Prosieben thinking. Go. All the logical, the logical. Should I make the smart? Copays you should I make the smart choice and bruises like know. His editors over in Titans won't let him play here yet. I mean he's with his own responsibilities. Then the only other possibility. Yes, but I want it. Down that. You. I, was. GonNa say because there's no other capable fighters in the world, but I'm guessing because he's the only one who knows Bruce's on. Ever. At this point I'm thinking maybe just be bronze tiger anybody but I'm just thinking may because Jerry. Gotham after all dependent on the continuity. L. A. Female. What are you talking about? But I'm just I'm probably just like you. Know might winger Jean Paul because it is the only. Entity pro. At this point. The only other possibility. Yes, I wanNA make clear absolutely clear under no circumstances. Does he confront bane? that. I know nobody. Nobody can stop me. Nobody. Oh my Lord. Broken. Online. Wrestling guys you know seriously looking to meet your flaxen, and just like yelling at St, still a cry out for him for Heroin Savior, but he is broken Gotham as high. Door like ours is like okay. What, Cohen that eight cone equality 'cause yet. Tim Locks on the doors Jean. Paul Wonky by yes. Who Is it opportunity? Wyatt almost though the book away like that that. Scene, silver. Civilized slavers right out the window. Oh, let's see Chad says yes. Suicide Squad could have been sent. Waller has a love hate relationship with Bruce. That never mind. She probably Oh Jeez I, don't she? Probably could. She probably would have sent the team just to show him up. Yeah we. We didn't have time for all that right now though. We gotta get this other book row. Need another bat block. We need another legacy here regarding. Around. Nineties Batman, come on! Guys that I don't know. To me. Go. Robin going to help Paul its darkest angel down personal live. Maybe even recover, but I need help right now. And you want Azriel he wants, but he doesn't want Israel here. Exactly. What you wanted the first time it came to you the mantle of the Bat. Honestly I just didn't feel like. They didn't even try. They just assumed we were gonNA. Let. Batman says. Didn't flesh out enough. They were just like Oh. Yeah, here's this guy who can fight. But. Why can't I just use the other caution because going outside is mostly psychological and bet in. Gotham needs the PAT. It'd be masquerading as the real Batman Doe. Up saying. I'm just saying that's the idea at least until bruce gets better. Award well opportunity only knocks wants. Think you can do it. You're asking a twelve zero. Bro! Come on together thirteen by the way we wouldn't be here otherwise I. mean think I could be as good as him. No says good as him. You're wrong. I'll be better. Like okay right years where we. Rude. Big Words is don't try them out on Jason Todd I mean jean-paul? Exactly. Meanwhile. Welsh against us. Pushed to the meeting. Because she shows up with her majesty leopold. You've got your flunkies Bain. I've got mine. GIG because we're set. A. Future this rob life out. I. Haven't seen one foot in this issue. But. I know but. You know we're we're. We're sitting. Cowan's first ongoing series. Come on. Owing Chad said DC wanted a crazy religious Batman for some reason. Have Hunches new. I think means even more so like crazy cult. Batman At, little help on twitter. To fight me gear. I was just watching it I was just rewatching one sauna hunters. Caraway! Yeah, then so many here, Lars. Look like the Wu girl. Yup bigalow even calls it out. But, yes, so. Bain says can tell you just continue what you do so well deal, but I just the only demand that you've fence all goods through me. Basically said basically from time to time I may require specialized skills for certain other jobs. Not? You read that Frank Miller Story. They. Got, that with! US. Oh My. Prerequisite nobody's saw. True Yes standard, clause. Bs from time to time I might need you. Other jobs surveillance, perhaps the theft of information. These activities paid for more than the value of anything. You could fence. Is Not that valuable name combat. Leopold Chances Loaf is right. Arrow hunters is definitely the t mobile girl. Was At being They. They. They were staring into that skit to just watched Calzado says Oh you know. You're shooting. He tells Oliver Oh. You're treating her. You know you want to kill her if she didn't like the t mobile girl. I remember when diggle had. Some lackadaisical part of Ota yeah. I remember. I remember guys or companies couple of big things down south. COUPLE OF BOWLS DOWN GO. See. REUSS are like. Vilo tuber going on. There just really well Lou. Freezing. Whatever. But has woman agrees the work workforce Bain kind of. We'll see about that. Yeah, yeah. Again. Again. I know. Can we just need an opening for that ongoing series? That, I say like the third run was. Probably like my favorite the third one. Yeah the third. That she got. You. On, new fifty two. Like some of The other things pretty. Bad Ingredient in cat will if you other? Stuff out the the main trinity. Yes there were other things good about. Everything was mad. We'll just love with masks on. Any chanted. I like the second longer. I wasn't bad, but I like the second ongoing. You know I just resented the I. Be Fun out of this. I think is what yeah? Well I mean they spent so much of this I mean. Cat will mean Robin Azriel. Has Real. We all know the not should back up feature, but you know. I mean they spun at least three ongoing series on. Mount Bruce Sondra, Sharp Belford indeed. Tim Claims you. Have we tried killing her you? Tim Claims! She worked wonders on. I'm thinking maybe my breakdowns more mental than physical the burden of my secret Lord, elmore. He's GonNa go full W. who wants to tell her a secret? S. What is what if the only way to recover mentally as well as physically as the trust laundry fully share myself with her. Open the mystery. SELENA's, By Now at this point I'm trying to remember after they read conduct after crisis I think he barely long another stories where he knows her in year one he. Because again, what is it about? What does it Batman Four Ninety nine like? She gets plane with him and Alfred, and he doesn't seem to know her. True. We dated like five years ago. Who? Party can't remember what they did last week. Hello. Chad says. Here soon coaching you see. The sears behaviors like. Lai. See makes some go out with John Pause is like now. I'd much rather. Much rather this. This makes no sense Oh. Yeah, Timmy, than says out later on yeah. I'm here for Dick. By do it Robin. The shadows on that horse grading voice. Kristen Bale uses. CRUCES's. For you. You know that Chris Nolan actually made him cut seems more gravelly voice. For the several of the second one. On one is like now I like it better the other way you're going to have to read. So. Knowing Okay Guys Dole at Christian Bill. Nolan. Yet I can't believe. Outlet on Seoul set. Where's the trigger? Anyway this tension is. Which? But I'll get there when I do. We'll have held so. Tell you. I'm making this. Nice! Time to update. Sorry captains by any. Sorry looking exactly like Bruce. Yeah Yeah, but they remind me of the Um Batman Mask. They sold for the Dark Knight. Put It on? You really do so. It's not. The always not species. Bruce's lying in bed. It's been a long dangerous dance, and maybe the paper must be paid, maybe offers wrong, and maybe I should tell Sondra everything. Trustees. Don't do it. What are you saying? Girl. Saint. She's saying she's a gold digger. Nobody in? Barely Trust Alfred. About. Talk about the long con man Jay's. I'm saying like you show up as opposed the you know my father. Ono. Are It, so yeah this. This was a lot of like aftermath and. Account believe through that flashback to get this. More. Move. DC smile forever. Stretch just one more right guys. decling our modern, age of course. Vendors. So. I know. Okay the action was great for the most part, but. Now they're having to deal with. Aftermath is just not believable for me like. Like. It's me. Are Superman. Did you really need to do? That that's just a feeling that I get walk, but yeah. Exactly. I mean again they're like. Hey, with we sold like a million copies at death superman. Let's try it again. Yeah exactly sometimes you gotTA. Know the whole the fold then again. Deficit Superman eventually was. Super Bowl Steele books out of that, so hey, let's do a Batman spins the books side of this. Again can early nineties what they're up to. I'm glad they. Don't try to hit us with these big events anymore. Rate will joker ward. Oh, my God like I'm serious, not reading. Over, guess, you're not reading any bad books because it's literally like going through. Really not. I don't think. Every BAPU could touches at least one issue. I said all I care is a think we're getting. Back That can make. It worse was hardly more. That would make it worse. Oh, my Lord I was looking. I think it was on twitter last night, Solicit for night wing, seventy, five in October you know. The solicits like decreases backward, but is he back and you know everyone just better. Be Back around a lot. Better. Just like really his back, but. What did you say? They really want me to make a trip Alfred backing and somebody writes. Ole Right. It's only been two years. Now Anyway. The artwork was using like. It's now income-eligible matic with the doctor plot resolve. I don't feel attached to John. Paul at all like I will say that I did Kinda dig the hole seal book. Album it was kind of cool man to diversify and stuff. Like that it made sense for that because he's a symbol of a symbol of hope, things I mean Batman. S We can allow. Through. What's his Chad? That's really the punchline Harley war bikers clown. Cars. It. On I'm here for punchline. Charlie us to get a crowbar to the face. In honestly. Yeah it's. Not It's not written for you as national demographic and I just overhauled. They've ruined Harley. I have no choice led to root for buds. I Dunno, I she. It just seems like you know. She's up two seconds ago indulge. The magic pillow told you she's taken down back girl to. You know bit nurse, fat girl. The whole thing ended on himself so, but that's the thing we don't. Hold back story there yet, so it can make sense later on. They trying to make her writers capable in her own book, but then it's just like Oh look this this young college girl. Is Young College girl who's just interning for the jokers, thanks. Like I said. We don't know pipelines. Also she could've been wanting to be. jokers partner her whole life in Soci- started training linebacker there in training. You know you don't know yet. I mean I'm willing to give her a chance, but I think I liked her better the first time when she called jokers daughter. No jokers daughters trash. That that veteran nude, they really screwed up jokers. Oh Yeah, Oh, fifty to date oh yeah new fifty two. All of thing never knew they wanted to do harm. End Up actually being jokers daughter. That's. Hit Office is like. Those jokes. JOKERS DAUGHTER! She's never been jokers daughter. The daughter's. Whole thing and I was like Okay Harley you. Did it you just so? We're clear you did the thing with jokers to can't face on your face you. Don't we have to cover that one bag I have so much to say about all right. Whatever you say today between our million long SAGAS. Throw it in. Order. Thought Anyway. Yeah, that those thoughts Decent story, but like at the I really don't feel it. This is like giving me much confidence like if I was reading the time about how they're gonNA deal with this. Yes? In pretty well and right now we're racing the five hundred so. which was kind of Ati? Harvest. Baynes baynes getting beaten just a question of by. Who? Who snazzy new costume Oh. Did you see that to Batman one hundred? I don't know. I could be a one time thing, but it's like a big break Batman costume like metallic armor, but it's like a bright, blue or something. That Nevada I didn't see that. Hope we're not just a one time thing. jokers faced the biggest. Hang up from death in the family. A new fifty two minutes to go door. jokers pays off. Know honestly, it's funny because I feel a Harley. Quinn, the cartoon on DC. Universe handle that better. Yeah? Little. Take themselves seriously all right. Exactly! So we done. Yeah, when we run out of battening concert, we totally review that show. Batman Yeah, because there's not eight years worth of Batman content that man. Hey now all of its good. We get through some Harley episodes I. don't care. About the books that no that go that man. 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Streaming In Place: Lucifer S03E11

The Televerse

30:57 min | 1 year ago

Streaming In Place: Lucifer S03E11

"To the televise streaming and hello everybody and welcome back streaming place today. We are not joined by the Toyota but we have lots of old school. Was I talk about today to talk about for season? Three eleven city of Angels. And and we don't get any call around city of angels movie references unless. I MISSED THEM. Which as possible because I have not seen it But nole you do get the words if you want them words. Do I get call dish? Call this what do I get for cold this? I totally forgotten what I call this yesterday. You said I feel like wrestling is something that Lucifer should be dead and did you. Who did say that? That's the thing I did say that but were talking about. Mma though that's why it's an ish. Oh it's completely different. I I feel like accounts for cultish. Elson cancer called Ish. I feel like Toyota was here. She be very much on my side about. This is obviously very ish but that's called is called I also I think as I'm saying it out loud I think we need to add another level. Where if you sort of kind of get it. It's called ish if you get it. And it's a reasonable prediction. That's called it and if you get it and it's unreasonable and it makes no sense at all. Then it's you called. Well get it. I do yes listeners. It's because it's because Scotty and Keenan's last name is called. Well that's that's that's a last name joke it's a well it's it's very indies. Uhm Joke But but I think he's good. I'm here for it so there are lots of. We can start here but I feel like we should start where I where the picture for this episode on the website is GonNa come from. That's with amenities chasing chicken. And that will montage. So there's a lot to enjoy the fact that it this is one of the leftover episodes. They filmed in season two but intended for season. Three that's part of it. I was basking in the light and the costuming and all these things feeling so comfortable and familiar because it was the season two team doing them And you know the hair makeup and everything feeling much more in. I know that I just need to come to terms with it gives. It's not gonNA change the season for but I'm not there yet anyways but there's also just the the whole montage is just delightful is so much fun and I thought thought I was at my like limit with The he's the best Whatever the that song is not clearly. I'm not here for it. So did you guys enjoy that montage as much as I did or was that just kind of giggling myself no. I don't think you're winter yourself at all. I think that you just had so much. Good fiscal deadpan. From DB would site in that sequence especially like facially of trying to figure out how to pretend even though no one is paying any attention to them this jim how to make it look like you're straining to lift something or for heavy And it kind of reminds me of like what they'll do like later slash earlier with else trying to do the devil face error type of thing and how that gets played so I think this is a nice call forward. Call back depending how you want to slice of due to production weirdness of how it's played but it's no it's very very funny and I appreciate it like the idea of the training montages. Not Getting stronger or anything. But it's so that you don't just beat the sky into appall by accident learn restraint and I like that is like the joke on top of everything else and the chasing rooster not being able use your powers and it's just it's it's very good. It's very sweet. And so I very much enjoyed alison. How'd you feel about it? Yeah I feel like the training Monta. The this episode is really about to scenes which I've got some calms with the episode. As a whole mostly think is really fun but I do want to get into the stuff that sort of bugs But really it. If the only justification for this episode is the scene at the end and then the training montage that is them trying to create a training montage Where it's like. Hey look he's training so we have a training montage Then that's reason enough. I thought it was a really delightful Performance for both of but Woodside in particular. He is very funny in this episode and the jokes don't always super serve him but this was a great use of his straight face His sense of timing His muscular torso like it all just sort of work together to be very very funny. Yeah Yeah there's a lot there's a lot to enjoy in that in just like because there. There's all different sorts of montages that we've seen in in dramas than also in comedies parodying. That and I cannot think of another show that has had a do tone it down a little bit Training like entree training sort of which is what this is is. I took my measuring hat to them. Because it's hard to find a new take even completely on the training montage into just like go with the most training montage song that you can in just fully embrace. That Salinas is yet. I really do that yet. There are there is some stuff here that doesn't quite track. And I of course immediately thought of Knoll as you said that Ellison and the incorrect precinct things. We need to get over. So we'RE NOT WE'RE NOT GONNA know my partner like pokes me when they're in the wrong precinct. Faith how do you feel about that? I just went shut up. Shut up you know how I feel. Don't rub salt in this room. that Also as much as I enjoy the return to some of these dynamics it is almost jarring to be tone it right the pace right so that it does feel kind of like whimsical. Oh remember when they hate each other. Oh Yeah I'm glad they don't anymore. So they did tone that down so that it would. We would enjoy spending a full episode with dynamic rather than the energy that you have when we see them in the beginning of season one which that would not be an enjoyable full episode if there were you know at each other that way for the whole thing but yeah there are some things that maybe don't quite go and I also think there do you. What what's that the most you were the well the you know at its best. I was thinking about some other episodes. This is the point where I talk about here. I go again one of my favorite episodes of TV ever which has being episode of leading up tomorrow. Which won't spoil but which includes a very fun montage so like there were good comparison episodes that were coming to mind as I was watching But I was also thinking a lot about stranger in strange lands An episode of lost often considered among its worst. If not. It's very worst. Because it's the origin story of Jack's Tattoo and as I was watching the episode. I couldn't help thinking like man. They had a good idea for this story and then just felt like they needed to give us way too. Many like I didn't need the origin story of Lucifer's license plate. You know what I mean like. I didn't I maybe actually didn't need the origin story of two. Marcus makes a good point Taco Tuesdays first of all why is chloe acting like she invented Taco Tuesdays declawing Taco Tuesdays? So that's super nick. I didn't like I just. I don't actually know that I needed Khloe and Dan in this episode at all. I felt like it was a little distracting and loose forgetting his weird leg. Khloe sense when they were at the wherever they were watching. The flight may didn't really need that Although it was interesting to see sort of a glimpse of maybe y Khloe and Dan's marriage didn't ultimately work in the end Like I think that was valuable but there was a lot of leg. Hey I bet you're wondering where this came from there you go. I didn't need half of it And I think it distracted from the things that worked really well because the episode got interesting for me Every time Lutheran amenity all started talking and not bickering The big obvious point. Obviously being amenity all saying leg. Yeah you know I needed somebody clever and evil and loose reaction to that so Yeah I guess it was fun and fantasy and I was down with about half of it. The part that's ends up for me like that is actually are seen with chloe in Charlotte. Because as much as I enjoyed that scene. I don't buy it for a second. Charlotte is a better lawyers. Matt and Charlotte would not be spouting off like the killers allegedly at that time also. It was terrible. She would be also good terrible wigs. I feel like this is Jamie an outlander situation that we've got with maize. That is bad. It was bad wig very bamboo but so while I enjoyed you know getting to see chloe. Meet Charlotte. We already know when we first introduced her that she's got a history with the department. The people know her This didn't feel like it tracked with WHO Charlotte was before mom. This felt like it was if it was like an origin story for Charlotte. After mom which doesn't make any sense. So that's unfortunate Marcus SAYS CLOTHING. was good though and Kansas. I really did enjoy Mandel. Filing a police report especially in his outfits was a very much. Hello if you're rich I'm single the look you put together for himself so that he could be very human and go by Human Police Report Yeah I respect your laws humans I will seek your human justice yeah. Drying the drawing was funny of House also not a good is not good. Where do I find this Mr Olen turn? It's such ridiculous line but I absolutely buy it like would I totally sold. It would just the right amount of humor and yeah is very good. It was very good in. How do we feel about the porn shoot? Was that a step too far. A R- you guys game for it. I think it works like okay like I like that. The joke is a deal in the scene in no one else which I think is kind of the important thing But yeah otherwise. It's kind of it's fine Like I was also just like to. I didn't know the so many portent Porsche Los Angeles. We'll I valley second. Yes so it was that that was fine Yeah it works okay. I think But also they just wouldn't let anyone wander onto those sets is kind of the other thing they're like they would know that a mini deals not there any of those scenes. Yep No that we wouldn't get to see him talking about his Rod. You Know I. I'll give them that young and holding the squeegee. Yeah and was a window Washer and I really appreciate misty canyons. Hold good set of Improv. Like I'm just going to go with whatever this weird script changes I can. Just go with it and it's just like that is topped here. That is topped your acting. Right there yeah. I think she was great. Actually she you know I I was not at all interested in like Lucifer. Being Lucifer on the SAT. That didn't whatever fine. I'm bored by But what I did appreciate was the fact that mystic canyons was so ready to yes and everything amenity deal said and then really handled the transition to way. He's dead and the scene. That came after really really well I think a maybe even a slightly better performance script deserves That's Taylor Black as the actor. She is great a very accomplished pivot. I thought it was terrific And lose for whatever but amenity. It's it doesn't make any sense but I'm willing to accept it just for the site of T. Woodside standing in those coveralls holding that squeegee just like being it just was very solid. A sight gag the tallest posture so very tall extremely muscley no facial expressions just primo. Yeah a Marcus wasn't Charlotte introduced working with the DEA to bust. Traffickers sounds right but like she already had pres like everybody. The precinct already knew her from previous work. Yes but I don't remember. This is an instance in which I am not encyclopedic enough to know sorry quarantine brain. I've got no idea Okay so what? What else stands about the road? We haven't talked about the fight yet. We should you know get into some of the heavier stuff with maybe a lucifer. But did you have either? Like how does she feel about maze and her first taste of earth? I really liked her weird Like sieff knockoff. Outfit from the DOOR FRANCHISE MINUS THAT REALLY. Just terrible whig. Just the worst week is just like literally use her own hair right now and just you. You're fine just style it a little bit and you're good But yeah that was also just kind of weird and delightful The stabbing instruments No now with that is sort of but not so I think all of that works but yeah. I think it's just a lot of like first time on Earth hijinks except for Lucifer who hadn't been here since the seventies The late seventies no less so generally it's fine But I also just wonder like in my brain. We'RE DISCO IN SEASON TWO. So yeah but yeah. We should talk about the heavier stuff in a minute. Well also if he hasn't been up since the seventies does he have TV in Hell Housi- watching porn to know Misty Canyon. If he hasn't been on earth since the Seventies Jones he doesn't sleep no we know he sleeps. Yeah I got nothin' I guess he has a TV in hell. But then wouldn't he know that he needed an updated suit Again worth it for the sight gag of Tom. Ellis just rocking the hell. Out of that suit Like looking really really good and ridiculous at the same time but not green novelty t shirt not nothing is ever. GonNa top the green novelty t shirt. Maybe by favorite piece of costuming in the entire show but it was a good suit. Yeah says so. Good in ridiculous. It was amazingly both. Yeah Yep exactly about the fight In my ongoing legends of tomorrow Rewatch with The call dishes We were watching crisis on Earth X. There's a line that the Tom Cavanagh version of airborne and says I love that. We have to specify that right says to the Nazi version of Oliver Queen where he says something something something and you should be ten percent less brooding and I thought about that line during that fight which was just a little too much I have issues with my brother and my dad for me. It was his. The cinematography was great. It was shot really beautifully. The blood splatter was upsetting and intense and the performance. Were good but it was just like a little a little much for me. Greatly prefer what comes after. I think that that's far more interesting. That in the The Dylan in the case of the week that we have discussed Just disappearing and then reappearing on the beach. Also good but Yet the fight did not do it for me. Am I alone there no I said I think I agree with you? I think the fights really good Emotionally in part because of the fact that it feels so much like a throwback to season one type stuff that it just it doesn't. It's not interesting anymore to see this Since they're in different places now So I just I wanted to latch onto it more but it just it just reinforced things that we already knew as opposed to eliminating something. We didn't know which is what the substance extensively about And it just never clicked in to a new character perspective for me. It suffers in comparison. I mean it can't help but pale in comparison to the fight at the end of wingman. And she's one and the fighting the beach and this is yes brother fall like I did. And it's very similar here. But is coming from Amana. Deal where he won back and if if they had that moment the kind of undercuts the moment that happens the parallel moment. That in their timeline happened. After you know what I mean so yeah it. I think it's fine you know. There's IT's entertaining is fun in the in the in the moment but it doesn't have the impact that it should be because we've already seen them have this fight even though it's in their future and when they did have this fight felt more much much more potent because it was coming out of choices that both of them had made rather than mostly just one of them So yeah it was fine but I think could have been better if they hadn't gone as as overwrought emotionally at that point We have Scotty says I cannot focus on a manual story because I don't care who daddy thanks to. Strongest is his strongest best boy. That in and of itself isn't anything. Physical Strength is ultimately meaningless. It doesn't tell me anything about either of these characters so amenities whole sorry scrolled school. Back Down Okay. So many deals whole thing this season in the thing when any of So manuals whole thing this season and a wet Lucille's with the loss of strength or power by question becomes. So why do I care? What does it mean? It's so less interesting than characters desire in than what any of those desires in any way Yeah I wholeheartedly agree That they're so hung up on their daddy issues. Which makes sense. But we've been at that point for three seasons they keep circling back to it and I apologize to everyone but when Scotty said about daddy thinks is the strongest best boy and this is something that my partner. I both immediately did during sodas. Why can't they be strong in the real way? I can show you how to restrung ill way. I know that we can be strong in the real way and I want to inspire you say yes she seen it. I would have seen it I just. I had a different musical reaction. Which is that. I was thinking about All the rich white folk are going to argue. We'll a kiss from daddy right. Like succession does a better job of this particular idea. I guess unsurprisingly. But yeah don't need to know who's going to get the kiss from Daddy How'd you guys feel about then? Are where we end. Relief Things Yeah I really like that. I'm pretty ambivalent about this episode overall but I think that That last scene is really just really well. Done in general It's good that it's a dialogue free affair It's also interesting to learn exactly the context for how Lucifer got away with staying on earth for as long as he did That was cool but but really I think if the one seen that justifies the existence of this episode. Is that training montage. That's not a training montage then The other is watching Maze Force herself despite her obvious emotional upheaval and physical repulsion to cut off looser swings. Like I think that scene was really really well done And as an example of something that I didn't need to see I'm glad I saw as probably the turn to phrase that I think is worthwhile like I feel like I learned more about both of those characters in that moment and what Lucifer's relationship to his wings means to him. Which makes it relevant this season. Even if most of what happens in this episode is not So yeah I think that that scene is very good. Yeah I did not. I was surprised by mazes emotion in that I would have expected her to be more excited and less emotional in that way more like enthusiastic or like grim in determined. You know kind of thing so I that was really interesting and not what I decided sorry. I'm just nodding. I don't really have anything to add to that. Because it's very good. And I think both Brandon Elyssa. Really really good at it. But that's it like again. It becomes like larger thing about this episode of that Alison. Very accurately pointed twos. I I didn't care about a lot of these questions so we didn't need to know how Lucifer got his license plate. No I yeah I just how did he get his licence plates? Because it fell off the car that but that was a different license plate right right so he. I assuming stole that car still didn't know how to drive that car. And we see the license plate fall off see. I didn't think it was his car. I thought I thought it was in it and then had decided. He liked that car until later he bought one. Oh see I assume that he just kept it. So you definitely just kept up. Because why would they show us then how when he went to register it they would have seen that it was stolen from the Vin number. That is making sure. But but he's the devil yet but yet the fact that that wasn't clear to me like that didn't make any sense. I would never have made that connection. I thought it was just like Oh. We're having fun with. Oh yeah no see. I think I don't know why else would have made a point of being like look. The license plate fell off. Yeah because it's not. His license plays car right. But it's going to be but I'm Markus would like to remind us That a he can turn anything on and be. Don't think about it. Thank you Marcus also Scotty as the senior lose ripples of strawberries pants and Egypt also pretty stupendous. Yes yeah I agreed. Okay well if anybody has any thoughts they wanted to Us To chime in on our particular moments. You enjoyed her questions about drop into the chat. Otherwise I think I we`ve. We've had a lot of criticisms criticisms for this owed but I did really enjoy it. I just had fun through this one. I liked getting a bit of a break from some of the things that are happening in this season. And just sort of going off for an episode before we dive back with Kane and everything that's going to entail Did you guys appreciate us or would you have put this upset somewhere else in the of season very you know. I sort of like it here. I like I like a little deep breath before you get into the craziness. I'm not sure that I would have felt any better about it. Had been anywhere else and I don't obviously didn't hate this episode. I think it's fine But I think actually maybe it's pretty well positioned. What did you know? Yeah I was actually thinking about that a lot today of trying to figure out in my brain I was like where would this have gone and season two and then I was like but where does it belong here because sometimes I'm always like kind of wishy washy with that. The deep breath episode after doing like a big reveal or cliffhanger but that kind of the that kind of an episode can just be very very frustrating. But here I think it works okay and I also just kind of wanted to get back to the main action but it's fine like it doesn't it didn't like upset me at any rate way shape or form But I don't know without having seen the entire season three at this point I'm not sure where else I would put it without like kind of digging in maybe like after the episode that should have been titled. Angel Ing Dumpster Fire. Maybe doing it after that episode Maybe to really reinforce this idea of Lucifer as a minute deals test. I think probably would may be given a larger thematic resonance then it kind of has here bud that aside. I think it's fine cues a enjoyed the disappearing shower of falling bills and reappearing to frantically. Confess and yeah. We haven't talked about the case of the week at all but That see but it was very good on deluded and didn't make a whole lot of sense. If it was fun I also knew who shot deal immediately. Yeah well yeah like. I recognize that actor. Yeah I know I know who that actors he did. It also says if the show going she can escape blithely over committing to any kind of theological. Specificity it's hard to get specific about. What a kiss from daddy actually means in. Yeah that's Get it the more you want. The engage with their daddy issues as the American character building for the forgiving season. Or just for the show the more you need to nail down what that actually means. And what the what? They're he history is and what their experiences with their father are. And if you're trying to avoid talking about that then it rings falls if you because we don't have anywhere near enough information to appreciate their daddy issues Like he's like oh no desperately someone else. What are stakes of that? Why does that seem? And the I I agree of event. Just general like wanting to be the favorite but very mess up like why is he? I don't want to be my parents favorite child. I think that would be messed up so like why. Is there such a competition amongst siblings? You know like how were they raised such it. Prompts me to think about him wonder about other things at the show? Never GonNA engage with Marcus. I feel like it's just pride. Yeah be but I liked that line from Lucifer that a pride is also your vice to cement. Take some of these things. They have in common that their sin for both of them is pride just manifest in different ways and as my parents his favorite. I don't know like why bother competing either. Like just how can you know Well this will wrap up our conversation about this season three episode eleven city of Angels. Tomorrow we are back to the season Arc with a after twelve all about her details in Alabama elbowed her. It doesn't really tell us anything. Do we want to take any swings? You know we'll show eve right. Okay we're GONNA I feel like I feel like it's to swing after meeting. Cain But I don't know I got nothing. I will say this for my memory. It is GonNa be a bumpy ride so on that. That's my favorite friends. It's very very good on that reference. We will in things for today. So thank you to our Frenchman hanging out in zoom. Scotty Keenan and Marcus always appreciate Chang. If you guys and thank you for listening back tomorrow to wrap up week nine streaming in place out of your Lord okay have a lovely day everybody by A.

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Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Which Steelers position groups are market ready in 2021?

Behind the Steel Curtain

32:57 min | 6 months ago

Steelers Hangover, Part 2: Which Steelers position groups are market ready in 2021?

"Welcome back to the steeler hangover. This part to my name is brian. Anthony davis that is anthony. Desio you know him as tone deaf you know me as bad and we are your steeler hangover team from behind the curtain dot com. We are talking about buying and selling are the steelers market ready. Or are they fixer. Uppers on offense in the twenty twenty one season and we're doing it position by position. Tony has said that the quarterback for market ready. I think are a little bit. More of a fixer upper. But i'm going to give the nod to tony and that's what we're gonna do. I like what he said. There we have a live super chat coming in. and it's for five dollars joel campbell. Thank you so much we appreciate you. You guys are awesome. Thanks for the entertainment. Go steelers appreciated joel. If you do have a question well look for it. And we'll throw it at the top of the queue so feel free to send a question if you have one but thank you so much. I do appreciate that and we appreciate everybody here. That is hanging out with us. So bandaged says ello. I love watching the looks on your faces when reading the live chat so i'm going to bring a bat h because he mentioned two things from pop culture. You know we're pop. Culture is here. The one was where he got wrong. Wasn't gonna call him out on it but comb out. it's actually from leave it to beaver. It's actually eddie. Haskell and not haskins who that actor just passed away. Last year tony yeah had his name on the tip of my tongue insured. Come he mentioned. Leave it to be again with from was laughing. He didn't mention the source but it was a joke from revenge of the nerds and spirit night when the dirtiest words ever spoken on television. Where ward work your little heart on the beaver last night. And so that's that's from revenge of the nerds. When i saw that i started to laugh and he just mentioned that he loves seeing our faces when we read the live chat. Yeah i love it We also talked about tony dow. No no that's the big brands you know. Yeah that was was the big brother's named beaver. There's tony douse the older brother. Carol montage i should know that stuff do. I didn't watch it first round. But now it wasn't while they all e. Yeah it was walling and any haskell like i said any haskell just died last year and his name is ken osmond no relation to the osmond brothers but he just passed away and i believe it was. If i'm not mistaken it was like last mayor or something during quarantine. so yes. that's when he passed away but he's he's been around a long time a very beloved actor and everybody knows an eddie haskell and as a scout leader i've few eddie haskell's there then that i just know that they're going to be. Yes you see him from afar and they're cut them up and they're they come over like. Hey mr bean. You're doing a great job other throwing stuff at trees and is always every group anyways So let's go to the running backs tony and the the running backs situation. I think i know where you're going to go on this fixer. Upper isn't it. Oh yeah. Definitely i mean even if they would be signed connor. It's still a fixer upper. Because we know his injury history and we're spending. We were pretty excited about him. Two years ago coming out of kentucky in the fourth round but but other than that you know he came on at the end of twenty nine thousand but he really didn't building that on that last year and of course anthony mcfarland's a total unknown. So i think you have to. You have to do some major repair on that on that position this year. Okay so let's talk about this real quick. We need new number. Is that what you're saying. Yes yes okay number one. That's my next question. Right where you if you're if you're a general manager tony What are you looking at here. Because i think i know you wrote an article on who you really love in the draft right. So are you looking at your just said not in the first round fairly. Who do you have your eye on. Really i know. I know nobody agreed with me. I'm a steeler. Eleven said my article yesterday. The only position and would be regis. But i think that there's such a distinctive drop off from crete humphry at least in terms of him being a safe pick Landed dickerson. Obviously he's bad acid at least he was But with the injury history. You just don't know so probably be center for me. Even though create humphries property only one you could imagine being taken in the first round. But that's what's so intriguing this year because what if he's sitting there and there's one industry three three running backs. It's still on the board. You know i. It's going to be hard to pass on on whether it's nausea harris or or or devante williams. I mean ideally. I'd like to wait till the second round like. Get a somebody like trae sermon from ohio state. But i mean it's it's it's it's the year where it's just it's just so it's so many unknowns but if you wait a second round i would rather wait a second around to get get get my running back in the future. I would love to but i don't care if they can go for home run and they feel they could. They can take care of those other spots later on in the draft. That i'm fine with him going in the first round now. I don't mind if they wait. Until the fourth round they could go in the second round of the fourth. Second fourth and go choo hubbard if they want to. They could go with a gain well from memphis. Somebody has compared him to another mcfarland. You know they can go. They can go up top if they want to go. I love devante so much that if they felt that he was good enough to go twenty. Four and don't think they could get him at fifty five then you know go. Giovanni i kind of trust these guys. I do want to ask. Andrew though i do. Trust is stuff they know. He's in the live chat in fact we might have to get headphones on him in a couple of weeks ago. That's something we might do but andrew who you taking at running back and where are you taking a run back. I'd like to get your opinion. Because here's the thing. John c just said something that i really like. I've been talking about this guy a lot if tony knows. I've been talking about this guy. I think you could get trae hill in the fourth round from georgia l. people. I think he's really good a lot of people like him now. I'm starting to see more and more people talk about him and you brought him weeks ago. And you can get off quinn miners still out there. He's a third rounder. I think you've got josh. Meyers could be third round or might not trop to you but the ohio state kids there if you're if you're comfortable with dickerson landon dickerson. Then we you're comfortable with his injury history then you take him so i'm going to jump ahead here and i'm asking for people from people from the live chat and so matt off go. One of my buddies from johnstown is saying that you go ahead and fix the line. I so what i'm gonna do here. Another running back missed his trae sermon. I like him a lot from ohio. State eric pereira mentioned him. Somebody else mention him. If i don't give you credit. I do apologize. Sherry richards serving on the third. Yeah you can go with a guy like sermon what he did against illinois in the the big ten championship game. I was at a good friend's house. That was a We went over there for for christmas gathering in their big ohio state fans and there. I was watching. This guy was like whoa. He looks like he could be running for the steelers. But before before before. I even knew he was. I was talking to my uncle. Everybody's house around holidays and he watched him in. Maybe might have been the big ten championship and he kept saying that guy is a tank and as well that sounds like a steeler running back at least from the path and asked anyway so yeah i mean that's caught my eye when my uncle described him as a tank so now we got your answer on that and so you are. It looks like you gave us an answer for center. You basically told us that centers fixer upper then. Oh it has to be I like bj finney as far as depth and in half an hour such a a known. I mean how can that not be. It has to be a fixer upper. You just lost a borderline hall of famer and markey's pouncey to retirement. And now you have. You have finney who may or may not be done as far as based on what happened last year with them and cds in our who's a total unknown. All right before. I bring wilbur. I wanna bring up. Envy our npr. This is going to be a great draft all caps great. That's all i know you're right. I think this is gonna be a great draft. I still think they need. They need a fifth round. Pick i would love to see them. A fifth round pick now will bar. This is why. I'm talking about this kid here. He could be seventy for all. I know but. I'm calling him a kit if williams falls to fifty five. He's the pick. one sleeper. I like is. Dion jackson duke. Five ten to fifteen four four speed good pass blocker and receiver. Six round steel tabin baster from south carolina is another one. Don't know a thing about either one of these guys. Tony and i. Now i'm gonna look these guys you look him up now. Definitely research a love. It will bar. You're my new best friend. And well i'll put shit like number seven on the list. How about that but You're my buddy now. And now i'm going to be bugging you for stuff. Some thank you good job. So let's let's go ahead. And i wanna be. Bring up tyler. Here arthur moats had something similar on his podcast. The line doesn't look like it's gotten better since last year but there's potential to approve at center and tackle so let's talk about tackle. This is a very interesting position that i want to talk about here. And let's just talk about tackle and guard so you can break him down since before we We get short on time. Let's let's go ahead and do this offensive line. Do you think mark ready for twenty twenty one leave out center. Leave out center because we are not necessarily. I think you're okay. Garden in at guard. Right and left. Guard with the castro. I think he he was injured last year and kevin dotson. Looks like the real deal tackles interesting because you know. They're obviously they obviously like zach. Banner a lot. They signed him to a two year. Deal know. So he's he's in play. They signed jo hagi still pretty young. He said thirty career starts and szucs core force a third round pick a twenty eighteen and he had nineteen starts at right tackle. So but i still think there's room there. I think there's room to bring in another tackle and let him compete so. I don't think. I don't think you're market ready. I think i think they can use another tackle. I am going to save for the twenty twenty one opener there. They are market ready and garden tackle. I'm going to say they're ready to start the season for it now. Can they last. I think i really think they can. They can do okay with this line. I think the castro is going to be better hurt last year. I think banner is an incredible run blocker. You're going to see a full starting year of a run blocking extraordinaire in the form of kevin dotson. Oh yeah look is there was there. I mean you could. You could complain about szucs or you want. But was he the problem last year. I think there was more of a problem than just choose games. Yeah i i really. Don't think that that he was a problem. So i really think that this this offensive line is going to be better going into twenty twenty one in some people still love big al. Some people don't like big how you might see big out big. Our has a better chance to come back. James conner does at this point. As far as i'm concerned and you might see i mean they. They've had some conversations about him and he might wanna come back for another year. Remember his best friend in the world. Is david decastro. He might in might be worth it for him to come back on a one year deal if he wants to play. So i'm just thinking that guy that that that that you might see back but you definitely have to draft. And i'm not saying that you don't draft. Do you have to draft. The guy is ready right away and somebody mentioned it was blake literal says and i was talking about this big time last week about how i want them to trade back and blake said that he's on trade back. Now here's a guy donald nolan. I respect donald says. Evan jenkins is a beast. Ot pick should be there at twenty four. I think donald. I think he's there and thirty two. I think he's there at thirty four. If you get a chance of trade you could pick up. Maybe a third round pick. You could pick up a fourth or and you get another fourth that makes up for not having a fift- and no you have to force but what i'm saying is i think you're okay but you have one waiting in the wings for the future if you have to throw one of those guys in. That's fine they. They're going to take a tackle does he have to be a day one starter. I don't think so. That's why i'm going through this exercise. But kevin jenkins donald is awesome. He's he's the guy want more than anybody. But you state right yeah. I don't think. I think you can get him my in outside of the the first round or very early in the second if you're trade back but don't trade too far you get someone else in there. You can do a lot of damage in draft this good for all the needs that you have so that means that what if what if you get. What if something happens. You get a second round pick. You probably don't but what happens if you can get giovanni a little quicker giovanni might go early in the second round. He might slip down to fifty five because remember. Remember how far Now clyde hilaire went thirty two we know that but remember how far the other guys. Jonathan taylor almost wanted to see jonathan taylor. Thomas from four. How not full house from home improvement and jonathan taylor. Jk dobbins jk rowling. How how far. They went down right around the fifty fifth. Pick somewhere around there. Taylor might have been a little bit earlier. But the steelers could have had dobbins went the other direction. We're not going to debate that. But you know you can get a job you can get the third running back in the draft. Which could be giovanni williams there and get a great offensive. Linemen i if you want to get the inside linebacker that i've been talking about you. Want to get him in the first round or you might be able to trade back in and get him very early in the second. So there's some things you can do there. There's a lot of places to mix and match. But that's why. I'm saying this about tackle for tevin jenkins. I don't think you have to get him at twenty four. You have room to move and still get him. It's a risk but you can still get them and this is something guy. Rojas said nausea. Itemise the best back in the class. That's why i love this running back class. There's people that are saying. Williams is the best. I think williams was awesome. I would take him. Eddie and as the best i would take avian knowledge as the best i would take nausea. But like. I said before. I could take cuba in the fourth round the kid from buffalo. Somebody mentioned ramachandra stevenson from oklahoma. I could take him in the fourth round. You get an fill. Some of those other needs earlier sherry says this and absolutely right. I can live with but a third is probably more realistic. And i think that's for For tackle a. I'm not sure much sure what she was saying. I think she said trading down to thirty two. Maybe you can snag a third for that that move. I think. I think you can get a third eric perez the only problem with trading down his need for quarterback and linebacker. Well here's the thing if you trade down. Here's a really and i mentioned this last week. The tampa bay buccaneers. They would love to move up to get a running back. Because that's that's the position. They need more than anything so they would love to move up there and if they did you would be picking up thirty two and you could probably score to live down that much you could probably score an early third round pick or you can get their picket sixty four. Maybe right so that's that's definitely worth that trade still get somebody that you want. So that's a possibility you can maybe in detangle at the tackle position so deep dish you could probably who knows you might be able to go in the second round all right. Let's let's we've got two more positions to go over wide. Receiver could go quick on this one market ready for sure. I really think it is. I still think you pick one later on. Because you know how they pick wide receivers. I still am jones in for a guy that you can get late in the fourth or in the fifth not not really past the fift- been seeing him. Mock draft simulators that. He's not going to go past the fifth. But i still am in love for with ethnic schwartz from auburn. The second auburn guy runs a four. He's i think he's run a four point two eight something like that. He'd be a kick return man he would. I mean he would be absolutely amazing. That's the guy that i would look at. I would bring him a receiver like that. You don't have to bring anything huge remember. Juju could be one more year and the team you still could be looking at juju second. Walk year in a row out right. It's a possibility will barr says four point six. Yeah i was close four point. Two eight not bad. Yeah this guy is blazing fast. And but here's the problem. Everybody's finding out about this guy talked to this guy at the senior bowl. These sat down and dr mule. Says he's a bad route runner of the thing. Where where i'm gonna take your though is i would. I would take the fact that you have so much in front of him. Have him on kick returns. You know he's going to break one and that you could teach you can teach somebody how to run rows at the professional level. It's not like it's impossible now. So i i yeah. You've got kill your there that can help out so that this draft is gonna be so cool because there's so many ways to go tony so i agree with you. I think their market ready. They're gonna they'll add one. They're not gonna add early. I would be disappointed if they added one in. I'd be disappointed if they added a safety. In the first three picks i'd be disappointed if they added a running back in the first four picks an excuse me wide receiver and So there there. You go the last position group that i want to talk about. It's the tight ends. This is an interesting one. Because you have eric ebron. Yeah but what else do you have. Yeah that's the problem. And he's definitely a really great. He's become dependable. Weapon or not. Dependable has to drops of ben benefit depending on him. He's a very very good weapon almost like a v receiver out there But you don't have anybody at number two entry who's proven nothing over two years after that. Who who else kevin raider. Is he still on. I don't even have the as in i. I think he's got the best chance right now to be the backup. But there's a guy that simon elliott says. You should bring back. Sa- simon elias. Excuse me i kind of agree with him. I i think after june you might see them bringing back jesse james on the cheap cheap cheap. Yeah he's already made a raise already. Made more money probably thought he when he signed that deal with the lions two years ago. All that guaranteed monday. He got in that deal so he's probably you might be able to get him on a he had a pretty Cheap cheap deal now. If if i if i pick somebody else that said it in you said it beforehand. I remember i. I don multitask well. So i'm going to bring up a few people here. Envy are tommy trumbull. You'll skinner tommy. Travel from notre dame round. three if he lasts. There's there's another guy that i like a lot. I wasn't thinking. I mean fire. I just don't think blake's his trade back forum. I like fryer mouth. Stacey says donate a tight end. I'm the guy that i like. There's a guy you can get in the fifth round. They don't have a fifth round. Pick though but trae mackenzie out of cash in georgia in some guys from georgia. This year you can get a tray mckinney if you If you wait but is he going to be ready right away. He's trades more of a blocking tight tight end. Andrew says dax. Raymond still has a shot at the roster and they have they have him there The other guy that i was looking at is now. I just lost his name. I know you guys are going to help me out with this. But the kid from boston college too. That's that's a guy that that would be a third round. Pick that i would look at to and like i said i just lost his name when somebody's gonna throw it out up here in a second so i appreciate that but this draft is gonna be so fun. Oh yeah it's it's winter at the end of the first round. Because because they they the possibilities are endless and they have so many needs the draft week is going to be great and also so check out beat. Ese draft week turning. I don't know if i even told you this. We are going again this year. We're going to go after every single pick. Not you and i a whole bunch of us After the first round pick anybody from bt sc that wants a chance to From the bbc contributors. That wants to go ahead and get on and talk about it. We're going to bring in one at a time to talk about the first round. Pick for five minutes or so. So we're going to be doing that Right after the first round ends then after immediately after every single pick one of us is going to go on. It can be michael. Jeffrey could be me and tony. It could be. It could be the boys from down under it could be a combination of jeff and And coach coach k. T. it could be Gosh it could be shannon white. It could be. You could be any one of us. You know the sco browse. It could be those guys. Yeah and speaking of which. Before i get onto anything else. This is a very special day. This is the forty seventh birthday of one. Richard 'field big bro. Oh happy birthday happy. Thursday gross go such an innocent young age forty seven whippersnapper. Yes he'll love it he'll love it. Thank you happy birthday. My man big of cash. One of my favorite sco brothers not going to see which was my favorite. But he ranks up there as far as Sco bros. i love that guy a great dude. Happy birthday from april theft. So do we know some other famous people that were born on april fifth. More famous than big brasco. How could you be. How could you be i. I don't know anybody that would be more fame. He carried by the way he carries the scarborough show. So you know. He's he's he's the head cheese and that's brochure. You're gonna remember. He's one of your bosses. The other ones of your bosses very controversial agnetha false gone. It's her birthday today. Who's at she's one of the as an aba k. She's the blonde from abba. So well i mean but you're gonna love this one. The master of the diamond cutter was born today in one thousand nine hundred fifty six. Tony dime dallas page. Pay dallas page. So he's like he's he's retirement age now how i tell you what one of the greatest men when i say men. I'm talking greatest people. He is a fantastic person and he has saved the lives of so many people with. Edp yoga he is rate. He's fantastic not just other wrestlers. He's he's helped a lot of people lose a lot of weight save lives. He's he's fantastic. He's actually humanitarian great guy. His name names page falkenberg and he did not start wrestling into. He was thirty five years of age. Now he was in. There is a manager but he they laugh at him and he became a hall of famer. He was great. Yeah so are you familiar with house party. Tony vaguely couldn't play. I didn't read from kid and play his. He's he's older than us. Nineteen sixty okay. Good good good good. I remember when they were. I remember when they were really young. And i thought i thought i was a teenager. So okay good. I feel better for rail williams. Happy okay. he's he's really talented. he was born. He is a year younger than big. Bro year. older than big brasco. If big brasco was born in seventy four for al turns forty eight today. So big brasco was born the very same day a south korean actor uhm tae woong i might not be. I might not be doing with that and somebody that we mentioned on the show already. We mentioned somebody on the show was born on this day. In one thousand nine hundred seventy six. We talked about him about ten minutes ago. Steelers wide receiver coach ike hilliard. Okay happy birthday. Forty five years old today sterling k. Brown is forty five years old. Today he was from the people vs oj simpson. He's also for steeler fans. You know him from a show. That is very steelers centric. This is us. Yeah big steeler fans. This is us sterling k. Brown emmy winner. He's won multiple emmys. Great stuff so his birthday. Is there today as well. But they all pale in comparison to one richard. Scofield big bros go birthday man. We love you here and we love you so much. We're not gonna sing to you. I'd be cruel so there we go. And i didn't see any of i really didn't i was looking at another page so i did not see any of the live chats there but i'm going back through and i see hashtag pay kyle. I knew pay. Kyle was going to get in there so from dp to. Bbs big bro brasco. Happy birthday to all of you. Yes sterling k. Brown was in a black panther as well. And i you know what we're we're going to have to do the steelers pittsburgh set it and i want you to go ahead and look down. Their big brasco bart scott. Didn't say it as well we. We've got to do this so i'll go ahead and throw that out after we do our regular ending but hey thanks so much for hanging out with us tonight for sure. Yeah it was fine. It was a fun informative. I learned a lot tonight. And i hope everybody else did and hope you did. It was great. So say is you've got the you've got the hashtags de hashtag the f. e. m. a. n. defeo man. Or you've got our our excuse me. Our web addresses email addresses cash. Not i'm killing the end near another good way You have our email addresses as well seen my wrench email dot com and tone-deaf at net zero dot net the oldest web address. The email address in the history of man. And he's going to leave that he's going to go. Watch is going to go on his my space account next and see what's going on there i. I can't get rid of that account. I want to get rid of it. But i i call. They say they say we'll give it to you for free. So hey thanks so much to all of you. Go ahead and get those reservations in for the draft. That is coming up. it's your draft. Have fun with it. It's coming up in three weeks. We're in two weeks. We are going to do with the draft lottery. So get ready for that as well and four tony duffy. Oh my name is brian. Anthony davis just when you think you've got all the answers we keep chain questions. Have a great week can't wait.

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A Global Climate Tipping Point? Understanding The U.N. IPCC Report

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A Global Climate Tipping Point? Understanding The U.N. IPCC Report

"This morning the un's intergovernmental panel on climate change issued part of. It's twenty twenty one report. Its latest on. Earth rapidly changing climate all five earlier assessment reports warned that modern human activity is transforming global environmental systems but scientists often speak carefully in public in the politics of climate. Change is tricky. So those previous warnings sounded almost bland. Not today. you've been telling us for over three decades of the dangers of allowing the candidates. Warm the well. Listen but didn't hear the world listen act strongly and as a result. Climate change is a problem. That is here now. Nobody's safe and it's getting worse faster. This is on point. i'm meghna chakrabarti. And that was inger anderson the executive director of the un environment program at a press conference this morning the ipc is made up of scientists representing more than one hundred ninety nations and today united nations secretary general antonio gutierrez called the report quote code red for humanity. Beverly law is professor emeritus at oregon state. University's department of forest ecosystems and society. She's been a reviewer for three ipcc reports and she joins us now from corvallis oregon professor law. Welcome and let me first ask you. Is this a code red for humanity. Hello magnet yes unfortunately We lose a lot of sleep over this We'll also with us today from williamstown. Massachusetts is william uma professor emeritus of international environmental policy at tufts university and visiting scientist at the woodward climate research center also lead author of several past. Reports professor memo. Welcome to you as well similar question. What is it specifically about this. Latest report from the that makes it a code red moment. I think i think that. For the first time there is just no equivocation that human activities and they are specified in this report that those activities have caused the changes that we're seeing and that we have to act very quickly to a obeys them and we will have some of these with not just for years but for centuries and maybe millennia. Okay so tell me a little bit more about what the specific impacts that the report. Today's report outlines. What what is grabbing your your attention or raising the greatest alarm bells for you. Well I think the The I i guess my alarm bells have been ringing for some time. If you frank with you But the in this report. I think the the points that are being made that That the that the warnings of the past have simply just not been listened to or they've been listened to but not heard as the The director of yuna the stated at the opening of this program and That now's the time that we have to act. We can make a huge difference in the coming decades as to what will happen But there are some things and this. This is new for abc. To say there are some things that will be with us for essentially of i dunno be beyond beyond anything we can imagine hundreds of years. Maybe thousands of years like sea level. Rise Like of the I it will take take ten thousand years to rebuild of the of the glaciers in the lost the ice from antarctica and greenland And the acidity of the ocean will be with us of forever. Perhaps is so we. We have done serious damage. That we can mitigate some of the damage for For other things like the temperature we can manage the temperature and get things back to a livable situation. Okay so professor law let me turn back to you because digging a little bit deeper into the various observations. That will you move. There is making would seem that one of the big takeaways from today's report. Is that even if humanity were to drastically cut carbon emissions today right now. This second on. August ninth twenty twenty one. The report says that even in that absolute best case scenario we could see a total warming rise of about one and a half degrees see in the next couple of decades. What's what are the implications of that ad. Well there are. There are grand implications for That's global average but it's going to bury regionally and that's one of the great things about this report is that has a little more regional specificity on which areas going to get hit hard and In some of that we're seeing right now So it's not only the natural systems the forest and they marine systems. it's all biodiversity. The wildlife animals fish birds Everything's going to be impacted. Not just humans. And of course whatever in pakistan trickles down to us so so if i could just add to be clear it seems though that that hotter future is essentially guaranteed. Now that's what the report is saying. Am i reading that right. Yeah looks like at least one point. Five c were hoping to keep it there now. So one of the things that has authored us. And that's been hard to get a grasp of is the extreme events and we've had some recent hot extremes Over the past decade and they stated that would have been extremely unlikely to occur without human influence on climate change and so these record shattering heatwaves are occurring three times more often than they did in the nineteen sixties We've lived long enough to have experienced. This is like and and now. We're trying to figure out how to do how to grapple with extremes again. They're pretty hard to predict Over the long term but the people who are predicting whether our had a really good handle on this with their modeling the near term modeling William uma again. I'm just i'm struck. How that one and a half degrees to to two professors law professor laws appoint first of all. It is a global average right which tends to obscure the extremes right. It's like talking about median income in the united states and not acknowledging that we have multibillionaires and people who are living on pennies a day. So can you you. Can you add to a professor laws saying about even in the best case scenario what that would mean in terms of regional or extreme events any examples that you wanna point to that are that are going on right now that we haven't already thought about a lot like the the western drought in the united states. Any other global examples you think are luster live. Think that's a great. A great analogy about how averages can hide a what everyone is experiencing a The the earth is not heeding uniformly and the arctic is warming vastly faster than the rest of the earth and that is changing the dynamics of the atmospheric weather patterns and so for example In the past you know well whatever. It was a month or so ago A professor of law in oregon was was a nearby portland was at one hundred. Sixteen degrees un- unprecedented. Meanwhile i here. In new england was experiencing a a summer day of seventy three degrees. I mean that's the regional disparity that were saying just within the united states and so One of the Aspects of this report is It it uses a longer term averages. So it says okay. Over the past two decades the average temperature has risen by point nine degrees celsius which is is Roughly roughly two A roughly a couple of degrees fahrenheit and In fact last year of it the rise above pre brand ustria levels was about one point two degrees. so we're talking about one point five degrees by by focusing on the longer term trends which is understandable. Because there's a lot of fluctuation going on And not mentioning the more recent changes People may have the sense that we have have more time. We can take more time to do this when in fact you know what we're doing is Those those past decades or like We're driving along the Fine interstate highway and only in the last hundred yards Do we see that is going off cliff. But we're not looking at the last hundred yards. And that's what we're facing is the last hundred yards right now. And that's showing that these trends are accelerating and The sec has been warning about this for years And it's it's falling on deaf ears and we can talk about why that is the case and the role that governments in doing so. Yeah i wanna do that a little bit later in the show but professor law let me turn back to you here because while it is true that we can we can talk in the abstract about these numbers and what the data say the way human beings work. Nothing is as powerful. A demonstrator of or convinced of the fact that the climate is changing then personal first hand experience and i will fully admit i'm actually broadcasting from probably a few blocks away from you. I'm in corvallis oregon right now. Because this is the town where i grew up and i'm also proud. Osu grads go beavers. But i use for the past years. I've been living in new england. I'm just happened to be back here in oregon visiting so it's been a while since i've been here and walking around the forest now. I was over by a black butte in central oregon a couple of weeks ago and just even here on the pacific side of things. I have never felt it as dry underfoot or even in my hands. As as i'm feeling it now. I mean you can hear the bone dry forest floor crunch underneath every single footstep you take where we are right now. The fires aren't even burning. So i mean it's that visceral how much things have changed here. You must feel that too. Oh yes absolutely. Fires ram through my research site. That had been running for twenty years. It's a normal kind of mixed regime flyer but we've experienced that it's just it's oppressive when we went outside and we were on mars professor law stand by for second because i want to hear more about that when we come back. This is on point. This is on point and meghna chakrabarti. Today we are talking about the international panel on climate changes. Latest report released just today. It's the us. International group of scientific experts representing more than one hundred ninety countries. This is their sixth report. On how the climate is changing on planet. Earth and the un secretary general calls this one a code red moment for humanity. I'm joined today by. William uhm is professor. Emeritus of international environmental policy at tufts university lead author of five earlier reports. Beverly law also joins us as well. Professor emeritus at oregon state university's department a forest ecosystems and society and previous reviewer for earlier. Ipc reports and professor law. We were. I'm a big believer in In greedy and granular examples. So can you tell us a little bit more. We were talking about how the forests of of the pacific northwest have been changing. And i just can't get over. I can snap branches off trees and they practically fall apart in your hands. There so dry tells more about how. Your research sites have changed. You said it looked like mars recently. Yeah the fires last year alone. Burn through green rich area. It's an ponderosa pine in the dry side of oregon. And as we've always been saying that dry systems are just going to get drier. Well it's definitely happening there. If you breathe in you just felt the dryness in your mouth. And i used to say i could. I could feel vapor oppressor deficit. that's a combination of temperature and humidity just by opening my mouth and breathing in. It took total dryness. It's like the opposite of when you get out and trees in cold weather and so a fire ripped through our site and It's it we've managed to avoid having this happened but it is in a natural recreation area too so it's difficult to keep people out of the burn out of those areas when the risk is so high but i went back through the site after it had burned with a tv crew and and also walked the surface after the post fire logging and it was a moonscape just the bare soil. It puffs up when you step on it. It's so dry and there's nothing left no strokes nothing so That's not because of the fire though it might have recovered on its own But it was heavily managed. so so. that's what we were experiencing at these sites and we've been tracking the response to climate and and inter annual variation and weather conditions in. How ecosystems have responded thunderous pine does relatively. Well it's very area resilient species but more recently we had this very dry event and we're going to have it again this week over one hundred degrees by one hundred three two hundred six and it dried. I was getting reports from people around the area the west side which is wetter area and it was the drought and shade. Tolerant trees like the western hemlock western red cedar that had their needles. Just dry out and it so that meant. They hit their thermal limit. They couldn't take it and those needles will fall but it doesn't mean the trees will die but it's the first we've seen us honestly that what you're describing the the this is the place i grew up. And what you're describing. What i'm seeing of never seen before in my higher life it is it is it is definitely different and folks wherever you are listening to this right now hop on twitter or facebook. Where on point. Radio and let us know how you've seen the environment. The climate change the indy the indicators that you look to to see how the world around you has changed where you grew up or or where you live now would love to hear from other folks about their visual or tactile evidence of climate change in their localities. So we're on twitter. Facebook at one point radio professor mama. Let me turn back to you here. Because obviously we're talking about the entire world and in preparing for for this conversation today. I sound upon something that you had pointed out to to our producers about the amazon that parts of the amazon rainforest are turning into are already turning into savannah. Can you talk a little bit more about that. Yes it's very disconcerting a report that came out just a only lasts two months that there are significant. Parts of the amazon that have gone from being a sink for carbon dioxide meaning they absorb more carbon dioxide than they release and that Those areas are are becoming savannah light and if this continues of the forest will become a savannah which means that it will probably not be possible to recover as a tropical rainforests that's an astounding Transformation as you probably know the southeast three three basic tropical forests to the southeast asian ones have been pretty much decimated for palm oil plantations and And logging The amazon is being cut. Up with a patchwork of cuts and the only remaining tropical forests that is still absorbing about a billion tons of carbon more than submitting is the congo And the amazon is not the only Ah forced that has had a dramatic change about a little over a month ago. It was announced in canada that the manage force of canada have gone from being a net sink for carbon dioxide to becoming a net source of carbon dioxide and that's that's almost entirely due to to harvesting of practices in the amazon. It's mostly clear professor professor movies because you're talking about the managed forests of canada becoming a carbon producer. Now because of how of how the canadians have decided. When we say manage you mean like what they're harvesting versus what preserving that's correct the the. Ipcc rules are that a country gets to decide which of its force or managing with for unmanaged and strangely enough. The only ones that that are that have to be reported or for their managed for us and the canadians and other countries. You know there've been a lot of these on tiniest fires up in the arctic and so Russia and canada and the united states for that matter with alaska prefer not to have those fires count against them. They they the atmosphere house them but for A compliance purposes. They don't count so these are just the forest that are managed which means that they are A and the arguments always weather managed sustainably which means we don't cut more than we'll grow back will if that were true that would keep the amount of carbon in the forest constant it would neither be adding more nor removing more than Than than it was the year before that it's clear the canadians have shot well beyond that on the on the on the overharvesting side and so are are wonderful. Temperate force are being a being converted into other kinds of landscapes as well and did i hear you correctly a little earlier when you said that. The only the only tropical forest left that is a net sink for carbon is in congo. Now that's the that's that's the the finding that's been reported. Yes that is stunning. That i mean what are the implications of that not good. The implications are that One of the things that report does do is points out that the That the basically of will remarkably for the past sixty years of the The the natural saints of forests wetlands Grasslands of And and and so on have been removing a constant percentage of of the Have kept up with growth. In carbon dioxide along with the oceans so the land-based plants and the oceans had been removing of about fifty six percent an amount equal to fifty six percent of what we omit every year from all all actions including deforestation and fossil fuels and summit making everything else. And that's pretty remarkable because it means that That they have have continued to grow. And that's because of carbon dioxide fertilization and and the capacity of the ocean to keep absorbing carbon That could be a that that that is is important. There is no technology that we can imagine that can be removing a fifty six percent of what we omit today right and and yet The the report they went on to say. But this might not keep forever. Well that's true but they don't say why in the why is twofold one is of course the damage to forests from the drying in the heating. That been talking about and the other is the increased overharvesting not just for wood products. But for buying bio-energy You know in europe. They're burning it to make electricity so that they don't have to burn coal but it's more carbon intensive than cold for the amount of electricity you get and the the their loopholes in the accounting system that allow them to do that right well. Professor and professor law stand by here for just a second because this is truly. Obviously it is. We're talking about global climate change here and the examples that we're hearing both close to home and abroad are more chilling than ever forget. We just got a tweet from from a listener. Who says here in vermont we are seeing smoky skies record drought invasive species in climate refugees. Starting to come just the beginning. It's terrifying time to be a parent. Hard to see. Hope when i feel. I've been screaming into the wind for twelve plus years again listeners. Let us know what you're seeing regarding changing climate where you are where twitter and facebook at on point radio well. Let's go to europe since you mentioned. You're a professor mama and specifically to greece alexi papa. Halos joins us now from the greek island of care. Alexi is executive editor of the greek daily newspaper. Kathy marini welcome to on point. Alexi america do so. Obviously greece has been in the grip of historic fires. There can you just describe a little bit of what the nation has been experiencing today. We're seeing images of people on a particular greek ireland being evacuated by fairy while in the distance as they move away from the island. The whole island seems to be burnings. What what has been going on. We went through a devastating experience I there was a fire inch the barclay not historic actually completely burned down And then there was this fire on this The second big found this about one. Third of it. I've been during so far People have to be evacuated by votes from resort towns and so on and How many people have lost their homes with about the politics on the most of their homes. it pretty pretty About education. I mean the whole Sky around that things is very smokey smell for four five days. Really you know Go out to the streets Older people had to be very careful and stay indoors It was it was very very good and international. Fire crews are coming to greece to help. That's the how large the scale the fires are. Is that right. Yeah the bom is the everybody's Facing the same kind of challenger arms he had some two fathers there do experience some tremendous fires me so everybody's kind of reluctance their their their ability because they're shorts but they're they're flowing in from the countries around and the thing is about to decide that they have to we have the cd of fiction kind of force so that would be fun being able to get down to some. You don't have so far in. The thing is the decided to go ahead. Sorry your lines a little rough to hear can you. Can you repeat that alexi. That europe is decided is about to decide some some kind of pan-european firefighting forced to say that again. The idea is to to have leapt for example if Because it just expensive for you know. I'm just like rich to maintain their own For the moment the crisis so be it. Is you know altogether associates and do the grave like a common Parking they'll be used a many around here. Especially in the south. I see and so of course what underlies that is. The is the belief and the reality that there's going to be an ongoing necessity for a pan european firefighting force right. This is becoming The it's almost like a general economic turkey which spain You know germany. So i think climate change is real silence and i figured okay so tell me how. So how different is of the now annual fires. You're saying in southern europe. Especially from you know when you when you were growing up alexi shit wage becoming almost like apartment fix. You have to start a day. I think the highest temperature Inch eight hundred fifty. Eight the And it's it's it's Yeah their weather's author forest like really really dry and becoming a real problem And the fires are almost like a. I just said you know like every summer we have the fire. One big five. Well alexi papa. Halo is joining us from the greek island of his executive editor of the greek daily newspaper. Kathy marini alexi. Thank you so very much and please. I hope you stay safe beverly law we have about a minute here before we have to take our next break here. Respond to what you heard alexi saying that there's just yet another example of how you know entire new systems now. He's talking about the emergence of a pan european wildfire fighting service. Now that these new systems have to be created to cope with not just our climate future but our climate present. Yes you know in the us we have a pretty good firefighting It's almost like a military system with the planes and so well coordinated and now you're up this is developing bears and other countries might need to also something else that i was thinking about. Though is that One of the things in spite of these things that are happening is we need to propose. Establishment of strategic climate and biodiversity reserves for carbon storage and accumulation and protect biodiversity. So when we come back. We're going to talk about more about what we can do. We've been bringing the alarm bell a lot this hour. We will move towards solutions and we're getting a lot of comments online here. John mckay says. I live now in connecticut but i grew up on a farm in northern alberta. The recent droughts have unprecedented and the municipal district there recently declared an agricultural disaster and midas tolerances. What this tells us. Capitalism is killed us all for profit. There's nothing stopping collapsed. Now talk about that later. This is this is on point. I'm meghna chakrabarti and just want to give you a preview about what we're gonna be talking about leader this week. Our series about amazon the company our series called the prime effect is gonna continue on wednesday. And we're going to be talking about amazon and surveillance not just digital but surveillance as well because here's a company that not only has a lot of your consumer behavior at its disposal but it's also in your neighborhoods in terms of a ring doorbell or say all those amazon trucks with cameras on them. So do you have a ring doorbell. Do you even have it amazon echo or dot in your home. Do you worry about how your data from. Those devices is being used or could be used. Call us at six one seven three five three four six zero six eight three. That's six one seven three five three zero six. Eight three would love to feature your stories in our next episode of amazon prime effect. We'll be talking about surveillance today. We are talking about the latest report from the international panel on climate change. The scientific advisory panel that represents more than one hundred and ninety nations. This is their sixth major. climate port. report they've released and the un secretary general calls it a code red moment for humanity. And we're getting a lot of input here from point listeners. In terms of things that they are seeing regarding climate change where they live. Dan hersher says mostly torrential rain in northern wisconsin. Much warmer winters gail white says from dubuque. Ia high heat very little rain but my scariest observation. No bugs i understand no mosquitoes due to dry conditions but nats normally are a constant presence. Not this year. Let's see what else we got. We have here. We've got something. Oh wayne says as a kid who grew up on the coast of maine in the seventies and eighties. I didn't have to give ticks pathogens. A second thought. Nowhere near the case. Now d campbell says when i was a kid in the early seventies. We had ice skating parties on our family lake in virginia now. The lake doesn't freeze enough to skate on so just a little bit of a here from things. That people are seeing where they live. I'm joined today. By william mma and beverly law. They've both been involved in previous reports from the ipc. And william uma before we talk about what we can do. There's a couple more questions regarding this specific report that i want to explore with with both you and professor law and first of all we have been talking about sort of the the best case future scenario and what seems to be already locked in into our climate future even if we we've got to net zero carbon emissions today but there's also the scenario on if we don't actually achieve major reductions in carbon. They're talking about three or four degree global average temperature rise over the next many decades. And how much closer does that bring us to. What's kind of being called now. Irrevocable climate tipping points or are we already there well. The tipping points are win win win. The system begins to change To the point that the it the changes accelerate more changes. So there are these reinforcing feedbacks Just a couple of quick examples. The melting of the arctic sea ice means. There's less light. Reflected sunlight reflected in which warming much faster and that then warm the for the the the arctic more which then causes the permafrost thaw and their dry out be more forest fires in the boreal regions and so on and if that cycle gets out of control in the sense that it can't be turned around even if lowered the amount of garb dockside in the atmosphere that would be catastrophic. But fortunately a lot of what we're seeing in terms of the weather changes can be changed by lowering the temperature. The temperature of the earth act towards what it used to be and that can only be done by By reducing the amount of heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere and So you know. I mean this all sounds like gloom-and-doom but for me the hope is knowing that there are things that we can do that will turn this around and we can't we can't slowdown sea level rise but we can slow down these weather events that he's terrible weather events including these incredible droughts if we lower the temperature and so to do that we need to obviously as rapidly as possible Reduce our emissions. So run out as fast as you can get those solar panels. Get your electric vehicle maker house. Better insulated Make sure that your your place of work is is doing what it can to reduce its emissions unless make that That energy transition as rapidly as possible but at the same time we have to increase the rate at which carbon dioxide is removed from the atmosphere. And that can be done by a combination of of letting more existing forest row Beverly law laid out the need for these strategic forth reserves The same is true with the with our grasslands the way they're managed with our agriculture. The way it's practiced And the protection of people don't think much of wetlands anything but wastelands but they have been hugely orton in the amount of carbon that they store and yet we degrade them in release that carbon dioxide almost instantly so Taking a look at what we can do in the national world and what we can do in terms of reducing our emissions from our the way we live our lives have to go hand in hand and they have to be all. Those efforts need to be accelerated immediately. Yeah you know we've been focusing a lot on forests so far this hour but obviously there every there's no ecosystem that's untouched by climate change. And jeremy of who guerrino sense message. Saying i want to hear more about see temperature changes and also he jeremy's curious about how sea-currents are handling the influx of freshwater dispersed into the oceans. Which would probably become an even more extreme issue if we see the continuing increasing excel in braid of acceleration of melting in both greenland and the arctic. So beverly law do you. Do you want to provide some insight about effects on sea temperatures. Well i guess when thing. I'm actually thinking about is the The most recent article about The gulfstream that flows north from the warm waters up to Say scotland and it's what keeps scotland balmy otherwise it would be quite frigid place for its latitude. And so there's more evidence of it now and i think that What was concerning as they're expecting that there might be this kind of collapse of it sooner than expected of. I think it would be three hundred years before dollar talking about certain that so so that that's worrisome because with the oceans and atmosphere when you have big circulations changing they can do big things. All around the world you can have effects. North america from that as well as scotland and other locations You know i think one thing. I've been thinking about a lot. Not just over the course of this hour but in the weekend of the this morning's report coming out is the fact that now the first one was put out in one thousand nine hundred ninety so here we are thirty one years later. Not only do we have the observable reality of how much has changed in those thirty years so what science can actually measure and then therefore model but we can now check the accuracy of the reports of the i reports from the ipc right. So i was looking back at the nineteen ninety report william mama and it says that sort of the the Do nothing option if the world sort of the business as usual scenario called then in one thousand nine hundred ninety if the world sort of continued on they predicted in one thousand nine hundred and we would see an average increase in global temperature of about one degrees centigrade. Above what was present in one thousand nine hundred and that we would see that by twenty twenty-five so first of all how looking back now. How accurate was that nineteen ninety. It was ridiculously accurate. Given the information we had at the time. I was not on that first report. But i did attend the very first meeting of the ipcc in a in nineteen eighty eight when it was formed It was at the meeting was in washington. Dc and. i was working there at the time. That's when i began my work on. Climate change is the first director of the climate program the woes sources institute and It's interesting that all throughout beginning of the nineteen seventies There were many scientists who pointed out. A climate change was was happening that was going to happen and I was also at the hearing on the hearing panel with the jim henson in one thousand nine hundred eighty when he when he made his famous statement. That climate change is already here in are said. Hey what what are you talking about. It's just a hot day in washington But there was a there is enough information even if we didn't have the massive observations. We have today to understand that this was happening and it was going to get worse and every single report is as more and more certainty. I mean it starts off with. It is possible that and then it becomes. It's his lease as likely as not and then it becomes it is it is it is a somewhat certain to It's over. I mean it's it's absolutely certain. That's what this last report says. So there's been an evolution of this cautious. Approach has been taken all along the scientific community where very few except the very brave have been willing to go out in front and say it's it's here it's now is getting worse is going to be worse still and could become catastrophic. If we don't do something. I mean when you look back at the nineteen ninety report. The cautious language is noted right because they talk about not being able to fully predict what exact weather patterns would be due to the variability of whether etc so point well taken. That's always a challenge in science but even buried within those those sort of caveats are statements like this with a modest increase in the mean in mean global temperature the number of days with temperatures above a given value at the high end of the distribution will increase substantially. There will also be a decrease in the days of temperature at the low end of the distribution so decrease in cooler days a substantial increase in hotter days. Okay the number of very hot days or frosty nights will be substantially changed without any even without any change in the variability of the weather so essentially setting what the new normal would be. That was in one thousand nine hundred ninety. I mean beverly law. Is it fair to say that. We are living in the world now that was predicted by the nineteen ninety. Ipc report says. Bill says it's just the certainty has improved. And so yeah. Those brave people that spoke out. I like dave keeling was measuring atmospheric. Co two from top montmelo. Instead we have a problem we've known it. It's just they're more certain. And that's how science works you. Keep working on reducing the uncertainty to make sure you're correct. Okay you know bill bill numa calls. You've you've said this bill that this is our like the. The paul revere moment right that the the people have been crying. The british are coming and but now they are here. So do you think that nations are more are more likely to to actually act now. Then they were in one thousand. Nine hundred ninety. I think they are but But but governments have been the problem with abc reports all along as you know The scientists put together the report. And then they write this. Summary for policymakers and then that has to be approved by governments and so of government. Sit there nitpick the language and take things out and in fact the one and a half degree report Meeting like that just like the one that just occurred for this report. A saudi arabia tried to tried to basically throw the whole thing off off the track and they They had to drop any mention of the nationally determined contributions which is diplomatic way of saying this is what we say we will do whether we'll do another matter because They just didn't want to admit that there the the that the oil era has to end And so i think that one of the biggest problems we have is that you have to have absolute universal agreement by governments where the ipc report to be approved of for of any action to be taken at the at conservative action. Taken at the un. And just look at the problem. We have in the united states between states that are coal and oil producers and those that are not i mean in massachusetts is no big deal to stay. We're going to. We're going to not have any more natural gas hookups. Try doing that in texas So these special interests are able to dominate the system both here and in europe of been involved in advising the european commission and you know ironically on the day that the floods occurred the wiki. The monday after the big floods occurred in germany They made announcement of what their forest of strategy is going to be. Which if they had more forest the floods wouldn't be as bad and yet they totally but failed to make the connection so governments are a huge problem and this is why it is so encouraging to see that that individuals institutions and even many corporations are picking up the ball and running with getting way ahead of everybody else loves the government professor law on that note. We've just got about forty five seconds left. I'm so sorry. We're running out of time here. But william munoz point about government's being challenged to finding solutions as well taken but people still want to know what they can do even as individuals. What thoughts would you like to leave them with. Individuals as still said improve the energy efficiency of your home have smaller homes Plant based diet natural. Climate solutions need to have the protect these systems that are doing the job of taking carbon out of the atmosphere forest as well as marine systems and we basically need to adapt to more frequent fires about pressuring those governments that represent them as well. Yes they're definitely gonna have to move that well. Beverly law professor emeritus at oregon state. University's department of forest ecosystems and society and a reviewer four three past ipc reports. Thank you so very much for joining us today. Thank you and bill. Moomaw professor emeritus of international environmental policy at tufts university and lead author of earlier. Ipc reports professor. Ma thank you as well. Thank you for having me. i appreciate it. i'm meghna chakrabarti. This is point.

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018 Addressing the Fear & Stress Surrounding Breastfeeding with Kathy Bradley

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018 Addressing the Fear & Stress Surrounding Breastfeeding with Kathy Bradley

"You've decided you're ready to become apparent and suddenly you're ever weld. People who feel they have. There ought to inform you on the correct conceive give birth what fears you should have and the proper way to parent. How do you filter through the opinions? How do you know what's trustworthy? The information on what submit or just plain outdated welcome to the birth East podcast two hundred host Michelle Smith and her guests as they cut through the noise and beer by sharing valuable tips tools and proven methods to help you connect with your own Inner Wissam as you navigate the sacred journey that just pregnancy hissy bird and parenthood and more relaxed and confident manner. His podcast does not constitute nor is it intended as medical advice Hello for these families. Welcome to your reprieve from the noise and the stress that can often accompanied pregnancy birth and parenthood. I'm your host I Michele Smith and today's episode. I'm so excited and grateful to have back with me once again. Happy Bradley Kathy has been a leader in the maternal health field for thirty years. She is an internationally board certified lactation consultant and we will be eh having a conversation about the ways to reduce fear and stress surrounding the breastfeeding experience. Welcome Cathy Theam so excited and grateful to have you here with me today. I love to be on these podcast with you. I just love time with you. We think in the same vein we enjoy moms those babies and birth. So it's a good gathering. Yes yes thank you it is. I'd like to discuss some of the ways that families can can prevent or mitigate some of the stress and fear that surrounds breastfeeding. Sometimes I can start even before a mom. It has given birth to her baby and those first couple of weeks hard as well now for many mom's not all moms but it's that adjustment period in that learning period. Could you please. I know it's a big topic that Divan and share some of those ways to reduce the stress. Okay I've got my deep gear on today. I would have this say and yes as a lactation consultant. I've been working with MOMS and babies. I think we're headed Edwards of thirty years now which just totally blows my mind. But I do get the Mamas and the family month's major concern isn't really about birth. It's about breastfeeding and that always surprises me. And I have to say first and foremost what creates believing society. Is the pressure sure that we put on ourselves. The unknown we're in a culture now of course we're very social. Obviously most people listening to this recording are going to be probably on their handheld device device for the most part and we're in a society in at the time of culture where women don't trust their abilities when I taught it when he palmer which is the second largest volume hospital. The United States at an average of forty eight navies being delivered a day and I talked to breastfeeding classes. There my openers. If you will as we got into the classes I would say. Isn't it interesting that you've paid money to come. Listen and learn about something that is so innately lately. Human to feed your babies. If we look people you know you might have had sex education in junior high school and and you learned about the birds and the bees and how babies happens but the actual making of a baby. Most people don't go to class for that. It's it's just organically happened between you and your partner and yet without you knowing you grew your baby right. I mean without consciously sang-ok today we've gotta move blood or babies just grow in our bellies because their bodies are designed to do it and when they come out of our bellies we're capable of breastfeeding. The majority of women are capable of breastfeeding their baby. If that process didn't work our society would it ended a long time ago. People are coming to class to learn how to breastfeed because in our society our culture has created enough question ability that they're not really sure they're able to do it always say do. Do you expect to come to this hospital and have your baby. And they'll let yes. Why wouldn't you expect to feed your baby that you could feed your baby and another thing is how we phrase in the power of our words so I would ask the question? How many of you quote are going to try to breastfeed your baby and ask for people to raise hands? If you've thought that I'm GONNA try to feed my Babe Ambrosi my baby raise your hand in. Almost I mean just I did it in all my classes because I wanted wanted people to see that. They weren't alone in questioning their ability but also to see the majority of the class had that thought and really and truly if we we live in a culture where everybody breastfed and everybody just did it. Wouldn't we wouldn't even question our abilities so answering your question of the stress and all that I have to take a step back to the root of where I think a lot of this. Come from now yes or babies fed frequently. Yeah Baby. Skin has to eat every hour hour and a half every two to three hours of newborns. Is that taxing on a family. Yes we live in a culture where everything is. Don't put your baby in bed. Don't sleep with your baby. We look at how moms and babies function for hundreds of years. There weren't Chris. Baby slept with mom. I know the controversial controversial subjects. But what I'm trying to point out to the listeners is that in essence our culture has created and and Did a vision from our babies and division from US really believing in our body's ability so once again I'm going to go back to the brain back to our are thinking processes back to what our belief systems are even about feeding babies. The step one of beginning to look at. Why is it considered stressful? And why is it for some it is and for some. It's not and I'm just talking overall. I mean obviously there's difference if there's truly feeding issues if we have nipple soreness. Dennis cracked and bleeding tongue ties. Mom having a hard time producing milk. Those are true structural things that we need to address. I don't think we have enough. Komo modeling regard. Yeah in regards to breastfeeding. We don't also back to your point. We're mammals and were nesting nesting mammals and most mammals when they have given birth their nesting with their babies their babies are right there with them continuously anew asli that our culture has created this paradigm that. We're not supposed to hold our babies too much. We're supposed to set them down. I remember once you're amazing. Collie in that Larry we were chatting one day and she said I can tell if there's GonNa be forget exactly how she put it but I can tell if there's a disconnect with the breastfeeding if a mama walks in the babies in the carseat carrier carrier she sets the baby down by the front of the room because it was a narrow remember. was that narrow hallway like room and then comes and sits in in the chair by me. She's not even connected to her baby. So part of our practices. I think are separating eating moms and babies in so many women have to get that to work. We don't give women time to even initiate breastfeeding speeding practices sometimes in my class and these classes had like forty five people in them at a time and I would would always ask how many of you seen a baby actually breastfeeding at the breast ever right that I'd say how many people in the last year how many the people in the last three months how many people in the last month how many people in last week and what. The point I was getting is very few and far between so that we're reading everywhere and we're hearing. We're getting the messages in our culture. That breastfeeding is best. But it's not being modeled so in a unconscious an a nonverbal way. We're getting two different messages. That are diabolically posts so if we went back a hundred two hundred years where are communities lied. We breastfed our babies. Just like all mammalian species suckle their young. That is what they do and and I love the pictures that go back into the eighteen hundred early nineteen hundreds and you see all kinds of cultures around the world baby's at the breast and it's not on a big deal and then all of a sudden we've come into the nineteen fifties and nineteen sixty nineteen seventies all of a sudden. We have this creation of alternative move breast milk known as formulas and all of a sudden. We see this huge decline in the breastfeeding rates. And I think part of what that is. I don't know if you really want to go into this podcasts. I can address like how and why we game from where we are from that time era but women just really don't believe they have the ability. They don't trust their bodies that they have the ability to breastfeed and then secondary to that if they do run into problems. Where are they going to get evidence-based non-judgmental support right? And there are times when I have to have that discussion with the Momma that formulas what we need to give this baby right now until we can get supply up in an alternative milk supply and do something and people are always very surprised about that. They think all lactation against formula formula like no baby needs nutrition. We need to be realistic about what we're dealing with. Yeah right I agree. Sometimes women do have difficulties. Breastfeeding and having a very skilled lactation consultant can make all the difference and meet it feel like we get very polarized. Sometimes in the fifties breastfeeding was looked down upon is inferior to the science of formula and and it sounds so terrible but this was the thinking that it only poor people. Only poor people breastfeed their baby and how quickly all of that changed. How we breastfeed within a couple generations? I I remember going up to Saint Augustine and going to the our lady of the late J. I never been and seeing that statue of Mother. Mary breastfeeding speeding baby. Jesus from the sixteen hundreds. What happened that? We have so much pain that we are no longer able to breastfeed our babies. He's in public. And I think that's part of the problem too is there's too much. Shame too much. Fear too many family members burgers that have never pressed by telling women that they're going to start does have the big one is it is it is and my mom was a nursing professor and she was a nurse and did mother baby Did Her dissertation on breastfeeding. Actually she missile funny because she would always say if God wanted you to know how many ounces of milk were coming out of your breasts. He would put a gauge on there. So that you could read it but instead he wants you to follow the queues of your baby and act with your baby. And look those cues that your baby baby's well-fed interesting is the practice. The specialty practice pediatrician right. So we go back the late eighteen hundred energy nineteen hundreds when physicians started becoming more prevalent. We began to see more specialty pediatrics. You know all the different areas of medicine instead of just old dock down the office that treated we would know today as family practice position. What a lot of people don't realize pediatrics? where it all came out of is when babies were having issues and their mommas on rare occasion cannot produce adequate amounts of note the doctors would start creating quote formulas Salas and specialize in what the baby like? My mom tells stories my mom's late Seventies. She toes that when her sister was born in her mother passed away. She had to use Kiro Syrup. Carnation milk coming. You know. I guess they couldn't afford the formulas we know it today and so they created something right so there were doctors that specialized in nutrition for infants. And that is where the pediatrician actually came out of. That's how how. They became their own specialty specializing in the nutrition of infants. Interesting it is very interesting and where formulas how it came about his. During the wars the men went off to war and so the women had to go into the factories and so who they had a baby. That was suckling at the breast. Who's I was GONNA? WHO's GonNa feed that baby and then there are also at the same time there were doctors doing research on Asthmas and children and they would take these babies out to the ocean for the day out into the sea? You know the saltwater air to see if they got better breathing treatments and so they needed to be able to feed these babies O'CONNELL donal around that same time is where the quote formulation of formulas or infant nutrition started coming around and it is historically known that when things like that come about. It's the wealthy or that can afford it. Let's face it if somebody has a Mercedes or a high end car. Those of us that are driving a lesser car. Majority of the population is always going to strive to drive that. Hire cars just GONNA innate human thing we do we you want bigger better and so that's also it happened with women thought that it was you had to have money to feed your baby and so you bought formula so then we begin into see the decline but thank goodness were really rebounding and coming back around way more than we were in the eighties and the nineties with breastfeeding. And that's exciting list. Eating their baby really is when I had my daughter. She's thirty three looking at me and my daughter's she was it's only six weeks old and he said you're still breastfeeding that. Maybe why aren't you supplementing her yet. Why are you still breastfeeding? And I went onto sheet her for a year. which back in the eighties was a long time to breastfeed? Yeah on the Nassar it was. It's just looked down upon and I remember the best thing that happened. Is We went to the leaky art festival and the little one was crying and my cousin looked at me and she said that she over there. You go sit down under that tree and you go feature baby and you. You don't worry about what anybody in this park. Thinks you go feed your child and how was the greatest gift because I just. I sat down and Fed my baby and now and I understand people want modesty but now we have to have all these cover-ups and even even there was a tickles me so much at that little H. E. Shrine they had a poster of Madonna's for each state in the United States and for Florida. They had our lady of La but they put a cover up on her what this shows her boob but we cannot ah possibly show her breast years ago. A magazine from Germany showed a mother breastfeeding on the cover. Well and I was shocked doc. Because you didn't see it you didn't. We can show breastfeeding on our covers of our magazines or even in the magazine. So what does that do to our psyche Eh. It adds to that shame right and adds to that expectation that the baby's going to be bottle fed and I just feel like there's too much fear and shame surrounding breastfeeding. It's getting so much better but it's still there. Yeah and even culturally right so we still the moments that are having babies today. I always talk to them if I get them. Prenatally is to find out from the partner. Were they breastfed. The Mama who's going to give birth wish she breastfed. What is the belief in immediate family? Because that has a lot of power into how or if they will be supported if their challenges that come along you run into a problem in your worried and I will tell you time and time again study after study. The number one reason women give breastfeeding is they do not believe they have enough milk for their baby. Well ever I teach ever. I work with anybody. I'm always wanting to teach them tools so that they know how to tell their baby's getting enough milk and for listening purposes. Your audience audience is the diaper output if we have input were going to get output pay. So it's going to be number of wet diapers and poops based on. How many days old? That's information we can easily. We get off the internet most likely to Google. If they don't have a care provider that gives them that information. So when you run into a challenge who the immediate support is is and that can even be pediatrician. It can be obstetrician is very much impact whether that mom's continues on her breastfeeding relationship or not so the social constructs of what and how we are in our family pods if you will can make or break the breastfeeding relationship. Yes I agree. And if you're a mama that AH really wants to breastfeed your baby. When you're choosing your pediatrician find a pediatrician? That is supportive of breastfeeding. Because is that can make a difference to you. Yeah you and I both know sometimes moms call you crying. Because their pediatrician told them this and suggests they go see a lactation consultants and it just brings so much relief because pediatricians some of them don't have it's much knowledge. I Guess I WANNA thank you. Look at resident programs with pediatricians. A lot of them have four hours on lactation. There isn't any way that we can begin to educate the pediatrician in school so often. And here's another thing too. Is You get the calls from the Mamas. That are the pediatrician. My baby's not growing on the percent of the scale and the height and weight. They're telling me I need to give formula and one one of the first things I'll do is I say okay is your baby on cue for a milestones is for age is baby doing what babies supposed to be doing. Yes does not have the diaper output. Yes and then send them go back to the pediatrician's office call and ask them to tell you who is a manufacturer of that plotting graphs. We know that breastfed babies grow and have different growth patterns than formula fed babies and so often formula companies are providing these things free Charge to pediatric offices. which I understand? You're trying to keep your costs down. So he if I can get step three then I get it. I get it from practice management place but what that simple simple act of using that growth chart is set for formula had babies is very different than the birth of the baby so the CDC the Centers for Disease Control puts puts out on in the World Health Organization. You can get charts that plot a breastfed baby. So something as simple as that. Most people wouldn't know you can go. Oh from a month feeling like she's absolutely starving her baby in the worst horrible mom too. Well my gosh everything's fine and it was merely just a simple graph could make that much difference. I just literally yesterday was calculating the three and a half month old and she texted me and said Dr saying this and I I said tell me the birthweight. Somebody's current weight was how many days old and I basically started the calculation and he came back and said your baby's gaining over the minimum of what is required acquired from breastfeeding. And she's like. Oh wonderful. Thank God you just put my mind at ease so it it really is important that when you reach out for lactation Asian information that you hopefully have access to somebody. That really knows what they're doing and has a lot of experience makes the difference it really does and win. Mamas are encountering problems to have a skilled lactation consultant to go to. It can make all the difference because sometimes they do have issues like convertibles or thrush which is a yeast infection on your nipples which is horrible with speaking from experience. The fourth baby I would've decide suffered my whole audience will know now that I had inverted nipples right but it was really. It was really difficult with my first. And my second and I had a really worked to call that nipple out to get hurt a nurse I spoke my first two babies especially and you know we worked through it and we we did it and I wish I would have had a lactation consultant. It would have made all the difference dance. I think and they have better tools and tips nowadays but getting thrush which is awful. I wouldn't wish it on my worst. The enemy I thought. Oh my gosh. If this was not my fourth child and I did not have years and years of experience breastfeeding I would quit. I I understand why women get so overwhelmed and quit but then finding help make such a difference such as yes and you know. There's a lot of what I call breast practices along the lines of best practices and we know scientifically what keeps production up. There's a lot of information but sometimes we need to deviate from that and we need to do what I call a mental health day and sometimes meet with MOMS do a console and I see what the issues going on. I'm able to say how about if we work out a system where you get a little bit more rest i. We're GONNA do some pumping we're going to do this or whatever it is and if we give her a mental health day to come back sometimes we know that reducing adducing how often a baby gets synthetic bottle. Nipple is going to be better for that baby but I take a position if I have a mom that is absolutely really stressed out exhausted nipples or cracked and bleeding and she's in a position where something doesn't intervene. We're just GONNA go straight to bottle feeding and that might be formula just say. AH WE'RE GONNA do this mom's contemplating I'd rather see that baby get whatever she can pump. And if we need to supplement with formula for twenty four hours or forty eight hours and give her retreat and get things turned around where she can take the breath okay. I think I've got this. This is a plan that can work but sometimes things have to work with mourning. The loss of what we thought that breastfeeding relationship was gonna look like and a good supportive. Professional national can help her work through those things because life isn't all rainbows and UNICORNS and oftentimes I've had moms that have had beautiful beautiful. Birth non medicated and they're saying breastfeeding is more painful than a non medicated delivery. And we need to step away and not go but baby bros. news. We need to listen to that and really honor what she's saying. Say you know what I hear you. Let's work out a plan and what works for. What do you think is possible for you? Over the next two to three days come up with a realistic livable plan. That's Kinda worker that family unit right right and it gets back to that shame too. Don't you think absolutely because then monce feel shame of I said I was going to breastfeed my baby and I couldn't do it only breastfed for six weeks. Instead of I managed is to breastfeed my baby for six weeks. And perhaps that's one of those MOMS. I hurt the statistic from a lactation consultant. Recently that some women in have to go back to work two weeks postpartum Bacau yet enhances Yuck doubt really undermines the breastfeeding relationship especially they have an employer cloying that doesn't understand that she needs to pump and we need to be kind to ourselves as mother's running to be kind to one another in general I have to tell you. Somebody's mom groups I'm on the MOM. Shaming is just her sometimes you get myself out of the groups because it's it's just a just I'm thinking what have we come to as humans treating other humans and you know the thing is. The research shows us a baby that goes to breast At delivery and gets one feed of MOMS colostrum never goes back to the breast again and has formula from that point wow medically healthy wise. That baby will outperform the baby. That never got any of MOMS milk at all and went straight formula. Wow Wow so one time at the breast can be amazing for that being now. Here's the other side of that. I'm adopted I. I never had my mom bride breastfeed because I was at birth taken away so we also don't WANNA shame rate. We don't we want to be careful. We're not shaming those Mama's Thomas that adopt a baby or are in a situation or maybe of had passed life traumas abuses that just do not allow for that baby to come to breast it all right now mama that had breast cancer and had to have her breasts removed. Yeah and it was difficult for her because the oh you're gonNA breastfeed or you're gonNA breastfeed and she didn't want to get into with perfect strangers. No I can't don't press you know. I think that does add to the stress all of these cultural expectations of. Oh you're starving your baby be or who didn't proceed Hamilton breastfeed. We just need to be kind and listen and be supportive if your story can help someone in there asking for help share it. But if they're not please don't please don't tell them there's too much I mean that's kind of the whole point of my podcast is. There's too many stories too much shaming to mini. You should do this and you should do that. And this is right and so much polarized opinions out there. It's overwhelming sometimes. Sometimes yes and so again we go back to what is trusting your gut instinct. What is working well for you? What do you think is going to work for your family? A unit the dynamics. Who's going back to work? WHO's available? Is it fading number four is it. You know there's so many dynamics that can be present. Your emblem is be the word V. E. and. I'm in a season of my life where I'm really looking at. How how what why? I do what I do. And the statement is. I'm not a human doing. I'm a human being and as mothers. I mean I can tell you when I brought a mother mother of five when I brought my first child home a week later. I'm thinking I need to be in their scrubbing. The bathrooms and doing all of that and I had been gourd of a forceps delivery almost had a C. section. But Ah did that side a lot of lower covering to do and I look back now and I think nobody put that expectation on me but myself no but he was asking her telling me get in there and clean the bathroom all through. I did that to myself. Why because for me if I produced if I did this if I did that then I was acceptable? And I think that's where I go back to when we started asking in the beginning of this podcast is what causes. Where are we in? It's the stress. It's the expectation so looking at this beautiful logo that you have it says be if we could just be and just be an acceptance that you know what. I'M GONNA trust them to do it. I need mean to do formulas going to kill my child so if I have to use some of that it's okay. If I'm able to exclusively Sibley breastfeed it's okay if we can learn to love ourselves where we are that produces more love and peace and enjoy then anything else. If we're okay about the decisions we need to make yourself. Thank you for noticing my logo. That's why chosen and how do you WANNA be. Who Do you want to be in response to this? I WANNA get to philosophical but at the root of parenting at the root of being a human being we have to have some forms of thought patterns. Do we have toxic thinking going on or are we really okay in a place of peace of you know. I'll make the the decisions I need to do. Yup My in-laws are my outlaws. Being what one might have. It might not be what they think. It's okay. I'm doing what I need to do for me. And my baby. Great Great Right listening to your baby's well. How often does that get trained out NOPE, of oh, us? You only feed every every two to three hours. There's a they've changed their philosophy. But there's a book out there that you probably know when I'm talking about that. Initially it caused a lot the problems because they were like, "N ope. You only feed every four hours." But if you're breastfeeding, babies need to feed more frequently and we need to create that relationship to listen to our Y ou know as an adult, right, we would be really super offended if we've had dinner and we decided arget. T And the way by, we just had that hankering for that Frosty from Wendy's, right? We go to the drive say, Hey, take ""you may say, I your order?" "Y And es. I'd like a medium size please." frosty, And they sorry, say, Smith. "Oh, I'm Ms. Uhm, you're not scheduled to eat for another two hours. You ate dinner two hours ago. Please come back in two hou rs. We'd like to see you then. Thank you." I mean we would be mortified as adults if that happened . You are so right. But that is what we do to babies. I tell women, "W hen you're pregnant were there not days that you felt like you ate and ate, and there were days where you could go a lot longer without eating?" A baby is no different. Their metabolism speeding up, slowing down. It's moving the digestive track and for us to think that we're going to schedule and put this baby on this amount every time is actually doing the mother- baby dyad very much a disservice. When I used to I teach I would tell people, you've got homework for the next day. I want you to get a note APP APP or a piece of paper and every time he put something to your mouth. I want you to do a hash mark. So you know you'd go one two three four and then cross through Hash Mark. You know. I'm talking about no. I said I want you to count if you get a cup of coffee in the morning. That's one hash mark if you go to work and you get another cup of coffee. There's one if you go to the water cooler and get a drink. There's the Hash mark if you reach over and get a handful of nuts. There's a hash mark and I'd guarantee them by the time they're twenty four hours up. They would have fed it lease ten to twelve times if not more in a twenty four hour period so really our eating habits are really no different than a newborn. We've just refrained it in our head and we don't see the connection but a newborn feeds just as frequently as we. We think feed means full meal on. That's not a fair assessment. A baby can come to the breast in five minutes. Get an ounce or two and be completely satisfied and not be a full feed for that baby. Babies loved to be MOMS brushed Ron as I call it yes frayed. They loved the ambience. Hey love can I just have another Cappuccino. I just WANNA SIP on it baby different personalities we listen to the babies and trust our gut instinct as a mother Lee. We would be a lot healthier. I think in mental as well as physical state in this country I think so too. That's beauty of a breastfeeding connection to. Because says our very bodies I very brust remind us to reconnect with our child and not that you can't reconnect with your child Wii bottle feeding but our cultures the busy now. It's discouraged but when my brother was little almost fifty years ago you may would prop a bottle and now we're encouraging families. Hold your baby instead of cropping the bottle so that you have that connection connection and for safety reasons to then what's crossing my mind is that we're losing our family intimacy. We are are learning to not trust ourselves that we can't trust our children that somebody else knows our baby better than we do. I am not that. We don't need help and guidance because we do at times but sometimes people present themselves as the expert or they. Yeah no better. They may not know your child better than you do they. Are you know your child. Best angry You know So before we get to that statement though before we close out this interview can you share them. One tip that you really would. I'd like families that want to breastfeed or are breastfeeding some bit of wisdom to help through the stress or fear. First first of all equipped just said absolutely trust your gut instinct. Trust that innate ability to parent your baby emotionally physically because it is a god given thing that women have partners families the unit has second of all surrounded people who in the breastfeeding arena That has successfully breast pin and are not judgmental. So if you find that when you're on facebook and your swirling through a group and you get that pit in your stomach continuing get off that group. Yes find your tribe. That is your tribe. They call it tribe for reason. You Find Your tribe find a a group that works for you. Some gruesome militant some are more laid back. Find what works for you if it's causing you duress than it's not positive for you. You are needing actual physical assessment. Seek out a good lactation professional and pediatric office. That can support support you the most eight wisdom that I can give a stretcher gut. If you think something's not right keep going. Don't listen to what people say. You do what you need to do you to feel it piece for you and your baby. I agree so if someone with light to reach out to you. How could they do that? They can access me the my website website at childbirth CONCIERGE DOT com. I know that usually in your podcast put that up. My number is available there. This podcast will go All over the country if anybody ever feels they're not sure they don't know how to find somebody and they have questions. You're more than welcome to call. If I feel that more than ten ten minutes into the call that you really could benefit from a consultation and I feel it's something we can do. The Zoom Zoom Consultations. When only thirty five dollars? So they're very affordable. Oh Wow that's wonderful. Yeah I wish I had that thirty years ago. Gosh I'll think the Internet is it didn't it didn't it's kind of an irony of we have all this access to information and it's incredible and it's so helpful and I wish I had it and in in some ways I think thirty three years ago we weren't as stressed out because there wasn't so much A dichotomy I appreciate you so much. Thank you once again and thank you families for listening this. Cathy said please trust your inner wisdom. Listen to your baby and find professionals that listen to you and want to help you find solution. That's right for you and your baby shears for more great conversations like these or to find out more information and access Michelle slobbery remaining guests good birthdays services dot com for slash podcast. More information on the birth east method Michelle's classes meditations and other services BIRTHDAY SERVICES DOT com.

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03/22/2021 - Hour 1 - One-and-Done Makes Everything Better + Yahoo Sports' Pete Thamel

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Get into a big day on a magic city monday. Uh yeah so much happening. It's pretty amazing. Yes indeed yes indeed and we will hear all of it. I mean obviously you've got nc double a. Tournament action not only from the weekend but still going on today as we work our way to the sweet sixteen nba news. Sad news Sad news especially for laker fans. Lebron james going down with an injury so we will get in nevada as well and then Nfl news and i would say sad news in that regard as well although hopefully we'll see where this thing goes. We will get into that as much. Can we say yes. It is a mess and getting messier by the hour seems We got pete thamel yahu sports national college football and basketball reporter my former colleague at the new york times you know what taught us he'd ham. What first name your thursday on this. Who us yes. No just what. I saw the neighbor i saw pete hero. Pete thamel no. I don't know much younger time for the you. He worked at times with me briefly. He came over yeah. We're only a little bit together. But i guess a good guy and obviously we'll talk to him about what's going on in the ncwa rob i. I almost fell out of my chair. Right moments before the show when i heard a voice say sue bird and it was of course. Dj alex tie shirt and it. I'm i'm not just saying this for show is shocked because we. We haven't had alex in so long that it really was stunning to hear his voice but god to hear his voice asks alex what i said to him. One alex gentleman. Why at first thing i said was. It's been two weeks as much as i did to surprise. I was like he's back already. Honestly it's like nine day with your parents. Rob was like oh you're back and then you're like you're back and that's our man. These alex tie on the ones and twos on the magic city. Monday of course super producer. Rob g running things and on the updates using a brian findlay word though he said Somebody quacked. i can't remember team. He was talking about but somebody quack another team. I thought it was brown findlay but it is our man oregon quack somebody. I remember who they were playing. But that's our mayorov irvin on the updates all right. let's get to it. And here's what i didn't wanna start and we talked about it a bit last week. Are we into the turn him in are we not. I was getting a little more excited as things got closer. And i have to say rob most of these players from adam you know. I know a few k. Cunningham and some other guys but the fact is rob. I was into it. I was into it. I had games all over the place. Tv's on all over the place watching the various games. Turn into the upsets. That were happening excited. When i see up on the screen. I'm watching one game. And i see that there's two minutes left in another game and it's a barn burner. I gotta go there. I mean i was into the tournament rob and it hit me like man look. They could be division three players fall. I know but it still is going to be excited. It could have been oberlin. Versus ohio. Wesleyan and i still would've been into it. I don't care who the kids are. It's i'm into it. Rob i was i got. I gotta be honest. March madness is second to none. Only problem is i watched not like you. I'm still one of these guys. I've never watched the red zone. The nfl never an all red zone banal forever and ever and a day and the reason is i still like to watch games and i'm not saying i'm gonna sit there and watch a blowout but i don't go flip and just to flip around. I'm like i want to watch a game in its entirety. If i watch a game so i did watch some games over the weekend and there were a lot of upsets but you know what chris you just a statement you made is perfect for what i'm about to set. It ain't about college basketball. That is the biggest misnomer this time of the year. Everybody says oh college basketball so exciting. Always way better than the pros. These kids playing for nothing. It's just for the love like gray. It has nothing to do with college basketball this on. It's about tournaments four mad. It could be anything. Chris who said it could be division three. How 'bout division four make up division for. It could be anything whenever they're single game. Elimination and people can get knocked out on that night in. Heinz the pleasure of the game. It's not like four out of seven. Okay they won this one. It doesn't mean they're going to win the series. I've gotta comeback tomorrow night or the next two nights and they got another game. There's something about single game elimination. It ain't about college basketball. College basketball is as mundane and nameless. As it's ever been but this time of the year when we lather rob and turn game on and oral roberts again. And they're winning two games. Roberts i got. I got two people. I know you know you know. I know both of you getting texts. Solomon williams to brother lives who lives. Pr guy yup. Two brothers and gonna americans right and gala gordon. Who's a big time mucketty mucks. Abc news worked with us at espn. Yes those two guys somehow. Someway graduated from all hope. It's okay i don't know how but would you see the. Where'd you go. Wow this is unbelievable. It's about the single game elimination when you're able to knock people out and it's all over chris and you play and you play. I mean you know what i'm saying. I'll give you. I agree with you. The only thing i would say. I don't know that you even saying this but the fact that it's basketball still does play some role you know like basketball just the nature of the game. It's exciting and all of that. So i i mean you're not saying if it was it could be freakin. You know tiddlywinks colleague. Today being a sport to any other sport and it's a single game elimination it just heightens the experience. That's what i'm talking. I that that that the bottom line is it is the single. It's done nature of it is. There's just no but i'll media see once operating. What if we had it in the nba for the sixteen teams right. More than half the league makes the play offs and it's a single game elimination. You would see chris the best basketball we've ever seen if every night they go out there. And this is it. And don't michael jordan six championships. Lebron james i'm gonna go on to the finals and ten times or right. He wouldn't have gone and final. It's impossible somebody can beat you one night. I don't care how good you are. Chris you could have a bad night. Somebody could have a great night. Somebody can make an unbelievable shot right. Somebody could have a tip in. I mean there's so many different things that could alter what it is. And that would make the gameboy though. That's my thing. would you want that. S really four hundred eleven in the first round of the mba dog. Men you can we can. I mean i don't mind him playing seven. But i look it used to be three used to be best two out of three. I know back. Then i was there. Two three hundred michael jordan made that shot against cleveland. That was we had a five game. five in cleveland. magic and kareem lost after winning it. Magic's the whole thing magic's rookie year. They went out in the first round the next year in a two best of three series by the us to houston. Yeah i think it was. Houston so i. I mean we could debate. Here's my point though. I would not want to see the and you're right. The excitement would be crazy but it would totally. I mean what is the point of playing in eighty two game season. Eighty two not thirty five or thirty. They play in college. Eighty two games comes down to one game like that would i. It just seems like. I mean you hear the complaints robin baseball with the wild card game or you know the the one. The one in done game in baseball game is exciting. But but you know what i'm saying but that's not at least that's not the championship. I you're right that it would be madness. I mean people would be into it. But i think the goal of the nba is to find the best team. Who's the best team. And you're not gonna get it in a one one in done scenario. You don't get it in basketball. Who use it or roberts beat they beat ohio state correct. They beat florida ohio. They would probably beat them eight out of ten times at least seven out of ten times so you don't get it is five for college is fire for thirty game season. I would not want to see that in the nba as exciting as it would be ca- i'm into the nba playoffs as they are as long as they are. Think is a whole separate season. You imagine what it would change. You know we talk about it. All the time chris in the eighties. It was just the lakers and the celtics. That's all it was. You wouldn't have no lakers and celtics. Utah might have a couple of championships. If it was the best out of it was single game elimination you might have the the wealth of championship spread around and make it equal and going and super teams wouldn't matter and players might stay. It could enhance the game and spread. The word spread the wealth because all the great teams even put together can lose one night. And i think that's the point. They don't really lose any given night. I remember we all remember the seventy two and ten bulls eye covered. And i was covering the cleveland cavaliers as a beat writer that year and they came to town jordan and pippen and the bulls wins in the midst of winning seventy two games and the cavs of terrell brandon. Bobby phils and chris mills beat them. So you're right any given night. Anything can happen. However let's think about iran you say a super teams would matter would cause remember john wooden did he had super teams and he was able to win. What ten championships. So if you laugh overwhelming talent you still would win a lot. You have a chance to get more of a chance to get beat gonna had to have a bad night what cunningham. He had a bad night for them right off. Were soon nights right but that night was what was he. Six for twenty from the field. He looked more like a ritchie cunningham in the ncaa tournament. Nothing allah gucci. That was every one and best man that would be on his top five list. Really i wanna say top ten top the top five. I just got them humble. But now i hear you but i i'm shocked that you would rather see the nba in that format because we know long now. Look here's the thing. Remember the mba played with this idea of adam. Silver talks that we might have this mid season tournament. Not that yeah. yeah now. I- traditions import rob and to your point if we all grew up and the nba was a one and done situation and it was what we knew. I think we'd be into it and we'd be used to it and it'd be what it was. What if they. What the season down the sixty two games chris. Right sixty two games a tournament like this. I don't know if it's sixteen or whatever but it would mid season one and done tournament. No i wanted to be for the whole hollywood thing. Sixty two is still too much for one in. I don't know. I mean that's just my personal be like this. Maybe you do this. This is just to get you. Through the first three rounds and then the championship is four out of seven or three out of five. Where like you still would have had a championship with the freaking miami heat and the dallas one critic. Here's what i'd say. Rob discos to the nba's idea of a mid season tournament over time like when they first proposed the idea. We're going to have this mid season tournament euro cup style and you know one and done in our. It's not like who cares. Who's who's gonna care that you won a mid season tournament but over time that could become significant now. Because we're not used to it. We might poo poo it but ten years from now. Twenty years from now people won't be like what. Yeah lebron has four rings and three you know midseason championships to jordan had six rings and five midseason cup. Now i think it would gain over time it could become legitimate and maybe that would be a one and done situation. I wouldn't wanna see. I would not want to see it without the like series if you wanna cut the first round five games. That's all right. But i wouldn't want that's why they went to seven rob. 'cause two out of three was too easy to get upset. Wata seven is too many four-game sweep where eight eight plain ones ended. Good game you know. They're eight season have won a few but most bad series. That's all are a seven seven ninety nine on fox. Eight seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. You'll turn away in. What do you think. Do you like rob's idea of the nba go into a march madness style. One and done playoff. I'm not with it. He is what say you not funny. 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Midseason met maryland. You on the couple of fox. Sports radio was a matt. Guys doing was no way no how won the nba at all be. The best team is right. Matt it is and it just takes away from the attrition. you're talking home. Field advantage plays apart. You're talking coaching adjustments. Seven game series is just. It's a thing to watch when to really good teams adjust after each game and judgments would be absolutely that. Let me say this to you. Chris already brought it up that the the good schools the dukes to north carolina's kentucky. They win. Don't act like a nasa a super team. But i'm saying good team orly talent orange ille- wins out. What are you afraid of it. A duke hasn't won a championship. And you go oh. This is unfair duke as great team every year and they get knocked out by some so talented team rob. They might win three three. How many shoshefsky got five. He's not he don't have. Nobody said wooden we. We celebrate dues. Having three three years. Chef got five all right file. Okay that's five and how many years it ain't like one forty five years. Thanks to the rule. Though you know remember that kentucky team that was undefeated. I mean so i am with the caller but all right here we go mark in sacramento urania. Couple fox sports radio. What's up mark was going on. Gentlemen rob parker. You lost you. Damn i let let me give you this. Give you a quick example. Would you want to see the yankees. And the dodgers playing the world series instead of game. Seven games play one game to win it all does ask you know who would be say some number one and number two in the world we want to see them. Play a full seven games. I went to season cut. We won't have to the two dame's. But i wanna see them. Go through the the the seven games coaches having to make adjustments guys in place you know. Every couple of cubs games Just you can see the momentum swings and that's what you want to see. that was mark. I won't points are excellent. You and chris both not going to sit here and act like they on. Put the heightened sense if you could lose it just for bad night or you don't hustle. Don't play well for one night. What would that be like the intensity of of all the marbles night after night after night trying to win it'd be a nice mid season tournament like i said which we wouldn't care about for the first several years but over time it'd be like oh lucas to rings and three midseason bowls whatever they call it like. Yeah please. let's he's always the one night. Stand versus marriage. Rob parker. That's one but this is a one night stay at versus a long-term grow old. Sit in front of your house on the porch and drink. Lemonade seventy five. I'll pass party in kentucky couple of fox sports radio martyr you into marriage or a or wanted either well crisper sar did not have bring up. Thirty eight one kentucky team. I mean my feelings are we. We had to shot clock violations and two timeouts and the pocket. And i don't wanna talk about that here. I know you don't. I'm the nba is a players league. If you go to single elimination it becomes the coaches like. I wouldn't want to go to single. But i i would love to see the first round. Go back to five games. It was five games for twenty eight or twenty years And there was only two teams. I remember when denver did it. Matombo was waving the time. I remember times in twenty years since then it. Only eighteen years of being seventeen happened three times. If you're a number one you should take care of eight five game right and get to rest your an gangs. They players could get hurt. It was money right. And the fluid sido. Chris is that often. Those games don't get played because a lot of them are four-game sweep right. So you don't even get those games like. They thought they could get a seven game series more money but in reality. I don't know what the first round is most of them. Don't go seven-run seven game right right. No question we got. Pete thamel yahoo sports college basketball reporter coming up but first fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. s. are to listen. Live these the yahoo sports national college football and basketball reporter former colleague of mine at the new york got a couple. In order to mitigate young reporter. He'll say young he is compared to me. Arrive are may appear damn well. What's up. pete. How are you beat. Crisper sar how we doing bud. Good good how are you great to have you on a couple of days here. Just trying to get through the rest of this. So where are you. Are you at one of the sites or like how are you covering this. I'm not. I'm sitting in my office with two. Tv's on and my My computer with youtube tv on watching. And i will go to the sweet sixteen on indie next week If everything's there you're guaranteed to be at the wrong game right and you don't. Yeah you know what. I really miss about governor tournament. I've probably covered every i. I've been in the first weekend of the tournament every year since ninety nine What i really miss his. You gonna lock around like abilene christian. Wins you walk. You talk to the assistant coaches you talk to the trainers. You talked to the g. as talking to walk on like you really get a feel for the team to help sort of bring him alive. A little bit and You know. ncaa look. They've done a great job he can get on his uhm. After you talk to the player. He talked to coach. But you just short a miss. The energy chris. I'm sure you've covered some tournaments in the path right. You remember those rooms right after high loss. Not locker room at any love. Nba without you know. Yeah you missed that. There's no doubt about it. We is funny. We my class today. At usc we talked about this. And this was about women being in the locker room. Because i had a female reporter jennifer hamm and about her career. And i said it's just not the same because you're right pete. You know like to feel when when people get to shower and you know what i mean and take time to kind of put it back together. It's not the same of going into a locker room right after a game. It's devastating Was just like what did you say bec. I'm just messing with you. But i'm just saying is totally different. And and some of it is lost because colbert and not being able to. you know. See people right after game. I agree with that completely. I mean i can vividly remember some of the locker rooms. You know guys lose their career right and just you walk in there and it's just a stone silence and you know some guys like i i. I'll say this on cape cunningham's last night it was almost one. Am eastern time. And they'd obviously lost the last game to oregon state. And i tell you what was a pro like like he looked sounded and act like a ten year. Nba vet Answered every question was honest. authentic didn't just ball cliches and then at the end thanked all the local media in oklahoma for covering him. And then which. The oklahoma state women's team congratulations. They wake for sterler in the day. And i was like man and it wasn't like an act like he had a great come in and tell them how to do it. It was just like this. Does this is like a real genuine person who has long been doing the right thing I read some of his quotes. And you're right. i i actually thought about. I was like man. This is impressive that he was saying things however he didn't play much like a pro in this tournament. Pete now we did a little research. And he's expected to be the number one pick and he will. If he is the number one pick he will have had the worst performance in the tournament of any number one. Picks since anthony bennett which turn out well. Yeah for cleveland. So i'm not saying he's not all that but what did you think did you. I just looking at him. If you had not told me who. The best player on the floor was. I don't think i would have thought it was him. What do you think happened. Is he overrated. Did he just have a couple of bad nights. But what do you think it was. I think he's very good. You got to think of him as like a luka doncic like i think that's the best way to put it the craftiness but he is very creative. He's very crappy. He does not have plus plus athleticism. You know obviously he's athletic. He's going to be that many but he is not like some of these. You know freaky freaky couldn't from green's right. A fifty inch vertical right. Like he's not he's not that yes he's a smart player. Who makes good place. He's a good shooter. I wouldn't say he's an elite shooter but he's very good And there's just tools to get better. I feel like if you watched them all year There they had some lows. Tcu twice they were some spots where he didn't Have great moments at the end of games. And you know what he put his head down and they got better and then he really lifted them. pat forty who coast yahu podcasts. With me mitigate announced instead of felt like a little bit like Carmelo anthony in syracuse. Where like it was a young team and he was lifting them up for the end. I think they went eight of ten maybe to finish the big twelve. Big twelve is an excellent league this year. a bunch of freshmen and sophomores. And i think the highest compliment would cunningham. Did this season which he was able to lift a young group and get them better and you know what it fell apart a little bit. Last night he get the ball for stretches Shot six twenty I mean he's. He's a freshman on a young team that needed him to be an actor and they had a little bit of off. Nice but i don't. You know i it was gonna be guys last night and they were like you know what he may not be the number one pick in the draft. But it'd be the two like. I don't think there's anything to drastic to read out of. It won't fall a lot of the top ten or anything but but but pita did want to ask you about the column you wrote about the tournament having the most upsets ever. We've seen oral. Roberts already win two games and it's been unbelievable actually when you start to look at it. How many has it been so far and and we expected even more. Yeah so this will go down. There was one more today. So i wrote that Like two in the morning last night there were. There was one more today so the ncaa defines upset by five or more spaces between the teams. So there's a first round your the a four's not yet six eleven. Six eleven is an eleven over sixers and upset ten over. seven is not an upset show. We we had our again. All these numbers are blending together. It's been three long days. I believe we are twelfth today. Oregon upset iowa which quite frankly wasn't upset. I saw that common but like so. They're only two total tournaments. Now we're obviously in the in the last day of The first weekend. There's only two total tournaments that have had more upsets of that seed disparity more than this one. So you would think you know. May maybe time tonight's done quite frankly. You would think by the time tournaments down. We're going to have one more of those. And those were there was a one year where villanova one as an eight. So they obviously had to pull upsets so it inflated that number and then there was the year kentucky played uconn in the In the in the title game. Which i believe was seven. One was an eight or woman's name. One was a nine or something like i think it was fourteen so anyway like that to this tournament already will to this juncture already has the most upset in. It would be an upset if it's not remembered as the most chaotic tournament in history. Is this a good thing with all the chaos audie upsets. Do you think that's good for the tournament or not all. I think it's great. I think it's great. I mean people. People watch for the upsets. There's an interesting dichotomy that the games like when florida gulf coast runs through and then play florida. Those games don't rate in the sweet sixteen like kentucky duke game or You know Michigan lsu type game where you have to big brands. 'cause people people go watch brands so but in terms of what makes the ncaa tournament great. And what gives it its energy use abilene christian and it is oral And it's it's a those types of stories loyal rahm coming in all the we shouldn't have been that surprise with loyola that that adds to the magic to it. And i mean just for my for my finance is something. I've covered for a number decades. Now it's it's just it feels normal again. You're in just feels good these like feelings. We didn't have last year because it stance and it's back. It felt right. I hear you. That's pete them will yahoos legs. Tell us about your podcast. Oh so We're actually gonna tape on tamara myself. Pat forty and dan wetzel and the three of us combined probably covered sports for seventy years total. We have a. We have a podcast. It's it's very light and goofy and we We go through college football basketball and Yeah so the. It's very very difficult to remember. It's called the yahoo sports college original three great writers couldn't come oversight like the odd couple. Four radio shows exactly. We hired the same consultant who name the college football playoff as our man. Pete thamel yahoo sports national college basketball reported gray stuff man. We appreciate it brother. Hey thanks for having me on guys. i it is the couple chris rob and we are going to pay tribute to a basketball legend who sadly passed away today. Keep it locked fox. Sports radio fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. In the nation catch all of our shows at fox sports radio dot com and within the iheartradio app search f. Ask are to listen live. 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Just seems like more and more people are passing. It's just you know. I think everybody at our age feels like that. You see people. You looked up to legends. You heard about or watch. Do you know what i mean. Museums doubt or athletes dying. And it's just it's just life we had. We had hank. Aaron and larry king die back to back day. I mean you know legendary broadcaster legendary baseball player now elgin baylor and elgin is always chris. I think i think elgin's career as a general manager hurt his legacy as a basketball player. I think like there's two elgin baylor who remember. Is that great player. But didn't there's elgin baylor who's the gm of the clippers which they just couldn't get it right. You know what i mean like and people should understand. This guy was a great basketball player. Not i not a foul route. I think you make a great point. And i've always look. I didn't see him play. I was three four years old when he retired. But my father talked about him. Like we would talk about dr j. or somebody like that and you're right. I think for an older people my age. You know you knew. He was the gm of the clippers. And you knew he had been a great player but you saw the struggles that they had with the clippers. Right he was gm. And i don't know that it was all his fault organization. Donald sterling was. It was just a mess. They didn't want to spend any money however he was the face of that as far as an executive donald sterling and abbas when people think of elgin bell as guy was a terrible. Gm couldn't get don the clippers. But i'm just saying like like we can't lose sight of him as a player and how great he was and give them pay demand respect for for his his entire life. Not just the way. Could you know what happens is a lot of times. People only remember the last part of your life. You know chris often ryan at the end is like saying about players who play too long. Play carter younger peop- people only think of him as this reserve coming in shooting threes when he's the best game dunker in nba history for my money for most people's money are a lot of people's hit. Well here's the thing about elgin baylor. Here's his career. Average twenty seven points and thirteen rebounds unbelievable crews and rob. He went to a nba finals. Now he never wanted. The irony is he. Never one where he jerry. West where a dynamic duo in the nba during the sixties and they went to eight nba finals. But that was the era where big men rule and bill russell. they lost to the celtics with bill russell. All the time and you know will won a championship in philadelphia. And then the irony rob as you know now. Is that the elgin baylor. It was elgin. Baylor gail goodrich jerry west and we'll about a super team and elgin was injured and so he retired after nine games in the seventy one seventy two season. Of course they they go ahead and win the championship. So jerry west has his one right exactly. But i know this rob when dr j. or even michael jordan david thompson. Hi fliers that you and i saw. They always point back to elgin baylor as as their inspiration because he was in the late. Fees interleague in the late fifties nine hundred fifty eight but he was doing things air you know he had moves around the basket and fancy layups and you know things like that and that is what a lot of the guys who came after him in were high fliers they got their ideas and their imagination sparked by him and you grow up trying to imitate elgin baylor and then you know you take it a step further just like the players today take things that they saw from jordan and dr j. and others step further no doubt we lost a great one. But you're right. Chris eighty six years. If we could get that. I'd be happy that's a great life. Akaka salat left a lot of people who cared about who cheered for who loved him so elgin baylor arrested peace yes. 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The Pursuit  E10  Paddy OConnell @PaddyRoc

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The Pursuit E10 Paddy OConnell @PaddyRoc

"I'm just going to call the intro this one. Yeah, they took. Hey it's Mr. Automax near listening to the pursuit on the out-of-bounds network is always. Before we start I ask that you can like subscribe. Leave a review. Five stars is great. One Stars isn't super great but it's a review. So leave a review. Let us know what you think this week's. Guest is a bit of a Hot Topic right now. Patty O'Connell you might need him from his latest article Telemark skiers, why are you the way you are this guy rules? I don't know everyone. So mad about. He wrote a satire article about Telemark skiing and how it's dumb, just as skiing is Dom and snowboarding is dumb. So we kind of hash into it. Talked about Telemark skiing and what it is, and why it is And the dude. Super Rad, no one should hate him. He is the best, my sister ever seen. He's got a really, really, really cool like web series going on with cross country skiing, and how it's actually harder than you think. There's nothing to be mad about this guy about at Pat Iraq. P a d, d. Y r o c on Instagram, one final note. Before we get started, the audio got a little shaky for a second there but it does pop back in so don't stress. I don't know, I live in a van so I'm usually just stealing internet from the street. So that's probably on me. But besides that, the episodes read, I'm really pumped on it. Patty rules, small stage rules. Exactly a really good human. And we shouldn't be mad at him because he wrote a satire article about Telemark skiing. So here it is. Patty O'Connell AKA patio off. Thank you. I we had we had like a really good chat and I'm trying to run that back, you know, like although now like now like what I think is going to happen in the tail Mark world now is like it's like when you show up to like, uh, um, a freestyle rap battle and and everybody in the crowd is like a motherfuker spitting written, you know, like he's coming with already pre-planned, you know? So now now it's just going to be like, thought it was just like this was round to, this doesn't count. Well, that's your intro. The most hated man on the internet patio know, just in the Dark World, Patty tells who you are and why everyone hates you right now. Well, I had, oh man, why everyone hates me right now? This see. This is like Telemark skiers. Yeah, this is going to be a great conversation. I have with my therapist. Hi everybody. My name is Patty, Patty O'Connell you might know me from the internet. I'm a professional word nerd and chit chatter in the primarily in the outdoor media space off. That means right? I produced podcast a previous different multimedia. Ugh, Creations. I'm a Swiss army knife of creativity. And I'm an Irishman from Chicago, the owner of a robust mustache. Uh, and I, I recently penned an article or ski magazine, uh, about Telemark skiing and People got fired up about it. We could say to say the least so the article was called Telemark skiers. Why are you the way you are? Yes. Which way you could have left it at that and I think people would have boiled over just a blank page after the headline. Yeah. But like so that came out three weeks ago and the people are still talking about it. It? Yes, yes they are. I know on the internet. What? Why? I think you did your job, obviously, like your job is to get clicks and I don't care what anyone else to say that. Your job. Your job is to get clicks to ski mag or anyone else that you were working for. So, in that aspect, you home, Rhonda. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I mean, it did, uh, you know, I'm not sure what the numbers are, but I know that, you know, the uh, social media posts that's Ki mag put up about it, kind of blew up. So I think it did, you know pretty well. And I'd say that like, I mean, Every time I create anything right, like I'm looking to make people laugh and make people think, and I hope I made people laugh and think with this, but I can honestly say that the response to it, especially like, the very negative response was pretty shocking. I am shocked at the response that people have had to it. I can't believe people care and like, obviously, we're rehashing a conversation. That no one knows we had already but like, we're, we're sliding down snow we are, we're literally like it's sledding but in control whether it be skiing snowboarding Telemark, skiing sled, dog, keyboards. It's dumb and that's like skiing is dumb snowboarding is Dom Telemark. Skiing is like really dumb and friend, who doesn't know. I Telemark ski down. Omaha. Like I am adult, I don't own boots. That being said, I am buying Alpine boots next year because of birth is article and he said it was. Now I'm going to get, I'm going to get like hate mail now because, you know, it's like you turn the car off podcast, us know. I I am a Telemark skier and I Telemark ski a lot. I probably at a hundred plus days this year, but I do a lot of touring and I think originally Telemark skiing was this ticket to the backcountry, right? Totally. And now, The Alpine gears are Alpine touring gears so far Advanced that it's better. Well yeah and I and I think I kind of point that out in the, in the article but really like, I mean, I don't hate Telemark skiing. I don't even dislike it, I think it does like look cool. You know, I I have tons of friends who Telly off and yeah but that's like like oh well my friend tally. So I can say that. Well, but here's the thing though is that like this? Yeah, totally like, am I so like I'm a like I'm a curious person, right? And like, that's the the way I come up with anything that I write about, or, or talk about or anything that I create, right? Is that like I typically get inspired like, when I'm out and about in the mountains and I noticed something interesting and that's where this thing happened. You know, as in Silverton and my buddy, John is the last Kelly pulled out. Who guides for for Silverton and we're shooting the shit before the day started. And it was like, Hey man, like let me show you these new findings. I got and I was like, oh my god, dude, no way. Are you click your heels? And now like, John, are you serious? And he was like and no fuk, no, I've never do it. I was like, okay, awesome. And so it shows me his new binders that he has where like you tow in and they're they're televising. They're like, but they like click into the bottom of your soul. And yeah, entiendo, right? The engine. Thank you write like instead of the, like, the the seventy-five million. Yeah. Like a. It's just basically duckbill, which is 75 mL and now they call this NTN and some people call it death but cuz it like grabs on the back. But well, that's kind of cute. We try. I like that I'm sure. There's also the terms that you just threw out there like you might as well be speaking like Martian to me. I have no idea what you're talking about. So John is like showing me his new things. He's psyched on it psyched. And I'm like, dude wage This is as close as you can get to like clicking your heel in with like still being able to bend your knees. Like what is going on and then we went back and forth and like he gave me, she had about Alpine skiing. And I gave a shit about as like gigantic beer that like, has an owl living in it, you know, like it's just like this, like lovable thing right between he and I and then I kind of was like, oh, like there's something here, right? Like all skiers no matter you're like discipline, like give each other lovable shit. You know, and it's kind of just like friendly off living back and forth. And I was like, oh well, you know, there's kind of this thing of like, you know, Alpine skiers given tele skier shit and tele skier has given Alpine Ski or shit, and it's kind of like funny and wage. So I was like, I think there's like something here. I'm going to explore this but I want to make sure that you know it is perceived as being like over-the-top and ridiculous. And not a serious thing. So I'm going to wrap it in these like, absurd analogies and like, you know, talk about skiing with dinosaurs and people skiing, and monocles and skiing during the Jurassic. Things like this, to make sure that people know that this is not fact that this is farce. Unfortunately people misunderstood thank, you know, which is, uh, a bummer, just too difficult, you know, it's, I mean, that's a bummer, right? Cuz like the whole intention and was to be like, you know, like, this is Dead funny and over-the-top ridiculous. And that's why I like, you know, like I think those jokes work because there or what I wrote I believe work as these kind of, like, funny jokes not to be taken seriously because they're not based in anything like real. It's not like I'm sitting here, talking about like the physics of, you know, Alpine versus Atelier equipment or anything like that. It's like, tele skier as you age. You during the Jurassic. What are you doing? Still on these things? You know it's like over-the-top. Unfortunately, people misunderstood that and they took it as like real Factor opinion and and you know, like what's really is kind of a bummer about it is is I would never want, you know, to someone to think that I'm like putting up a wall or like other in people, I try to actually like destroy that and most of my more like serious work. So I thought that was unfortunate that was and and I mean the big over-the-top like response to it has been kind of shocking and and that's a bummer you know. Yeah I don't want to make people sad song. Yeah that's not your goal. It's not stupid schematics goal to make people say but I don't know. I think what you could have wrote anything about Telemark skiing. That is if that didn't say anything like this is the anything you wrote about Telemark skiing that was anyway. Negative People would have blown up because no one talks about it. So anytime and I think that's what happened were so hyper not week, cuz I don't care. But like Telemark skiers are so sensitive because it's like doing this thing ever. It's like riding like those off-road unicycle guys, right. No one cares, right? But like, it's so much harder. Like, I'm doing the same line as you. And this is so much harder and you're just like, now, you're not an Alpine Stereo no one cares. And I like maybe the unicycle references wrong wrong, but like, it's that off-road guy that everyone knows those like, he rips on a unicycle, arguably way harder, but who cares? So when when when these magazines write articles It it's all, it's never anything positive about a Telemark skier and I know you're sad tire, but I think that's why everyone just lost it. And I, I would agree with that, you know? Like, I listen, you sent me that page other podcasts real written, right? And I originally didn't listen to it, cuz I was like, I kind of looked into the host and I was like, oh, the students got Telemark tattooed moose knuckles, like Betty a bet. He's like, pretty upset with me. I don't want to hear somebody being pretty upset with me and then you told me he's like, no, it's like, it's pretty funny. It was really funny. Yeah. What was your take on that? Cuz I thought, I thought it was. I thought it was really funny and I also like, we've been in contact Josh and I'm like oh great and and which is awesome and I'm totally next time. I'm in Salt Lake, a thousand percent. Going to go, you know, try my damnedest to go, you know, keep up with him and his crew. I'm looking for like a, like a ibuprofen sponsorship cuz I'm just going to fall down a lot. I'm sure. You know I got better odds with like CBD cuz they're just throwing money at every athlete. Yeah we'd Vaseline you mean yeah actually. Oh you have a headache CBD. Oh, you're Jack's broken. It's like tossing of like the thirties. You need some lilac essential oil for? Yeah, I think actually, now we're coming up with like a really good multi-level marketing scheme, the industry. So let's talk after yeah, let's do this after but I think so. Like what Josh is saying it's like to your point, I think what's happening and which guy like, you know, didn't realize this was poking at is like maybe some like T's fatigue, you know. Like for sure which I was just pointing out is that like, you know, dudes that he doesn't even know in lift lines will be like, oh, you know, you're finding Suck, you know? And it's like, whoa, you know, you suck. That's yeah, exactly. It's like that's pretty like Ridiculous, like, I'm only like face-to-face with like, joke around with the people that I know about their equipment. Whatever. Their equipment is, you know, like snow bikes roller blades, unicycle, Telemark skiing like, whatever it is, like, if they're my friends like, you know, that's like, it's like how my siblings and I show each other. Love is right. Oh you're goofy. I also love you hug. You know? Right. Six months. I think what's happening is probably. Yeah, exactly, masked vaccine. I think what's happening? Which I didn't realize, you know is like maybe some T's fatigue with people actually being like, dick on the mountain and like, screaming at people, they don't know, uh, you know. So that's like You know, that's a bummer that to realize like, maybe I, I like poked at that. But again, like, when I brought this idea up and and even, you know, like sent the wrong code, to my Tally friends, they're like, oh my gosh, this is like, this is hilarious, and I thought that the response like across-the-board was going to be like that. So it was pretty shocking, you know, that it wasn't, and I was bummed. There was a misunderstanding, you know, but I guess like like one of the things I want to like, ask you, you know, or maybe point out is like, you know, the thing I love about like ski culture is that like, I think we all recognize right? That. It's like it's given all of us this sense of belonging and community and it's beautiful and soul enriching. And I write a lot about life type in like reveal things about ourselves in life, but like at the core of it like you know like Dexter rutecki says in Aspen extreme like we're just sliding downhill on sticks man. You know my dog. Scares the easy part. Yeah, exactly. It's Kim's. Easy part Carl. Like it's it's like I mean it's it's inherently goofy. You know the first time I got on skis I was like this I did not have like a frowny Faith. Like this is very serious. I should take this serious for the rest of my life. Yeah it was like this is super fun and I feel like a kid you know I that like Zip of energy through my body from this is hilarious and funny that it's like I mean it's like why we were neon and do spread these and like wear jeans and shorts and stuff like that, cuz it's goofy. It's a way to like goof off. And like, it's a smile delivery system at uhm at its core. And I think, you know, I think that a lot of times when ego is attached to something like skiing, it can put us in trouble when we take something. Very serious. It can put us into trouble and I'm wondering, kind of like, if you think that, you know, like something harmful and toxic can come away from us, taking skiing, so seriously and like also like, you know, am I unaware of something like is the last year or the last handful of years? Kind of put off seeing world like back on its heels a little bit like feeling like we need to defend ourselves. Like do you think I don't know. Do you think we lost? Have we lost our funding? I don't know cuz that's a good point. Like I grew up playing basketball like summer basketball summer camps. Like that's what I did and then I played all winter like that was my sport. I didn't I was okay. I was good but like that was my life, right? And then You know, I played like varsity as like, a sophomore. Like I was, I could play. I was good. Yeah. And then I found skiing, I didn't I put a snowboard on first at like sixteen Seventeen month and that was like, holy like, there's no, I don't have any coaches, even tell me what to do, no one's telling me where to go, or how to do it. And then I, you know, from snowboarding, I evolved into skiing then eventually fell into Telemark skiing somehow, but it was a freedom to me. It was like an old. I'm not a gamer, but I think I might have said this, like, it was like an open world video game. It was like, oh holy I can do whatever I want. And this is just fun. Totally and I didn't even I didn't even know that like coaching and like I knew there was like ski racing, but I thought people were just fast. Like, I didn't know that works. I didn't grow up in that world. Yeah, yeah, same. So to me, it was like this ultimate Just Freedom, open world video game, and then as I got, like, good quote, unquote, and like got like some sponsors and like, and I was, I'm still not good, but I'm just, I'm clever enough to get a free jacket every year, you know, boy. But that's what it is, right? Like yeah, yeah, but you've got really serious in. Like someone like my sponsors would, like, email me after I asked him for like, free hats, and they were like, well, what did you do last year? I was like, dude, if you think I would like went and like, tried to get hurt for this jacket, like you're, you're so wrong, and that's just me. Like, I am not a pro skier. I probably in some ways, get a lot more free equipment than some Pro skiers, which is a little weird. But, like, there are people there, that's what makes skiing, and skiing is a general snowboarding, whatever. So wrong, Add that if you asked. Yeah, if you ask me if I'm a skier, I'm a skier. If I asked my nephew who I just took skiing once this year. He's five years old for the first time if I asked him right now. If he was a skier he would say yes. And if I asked Cody Townsend, if he was here he would say yes. So I think there is a serious world but I don't think I would say ninety nine percent of skiers Riders, whatever are not living in that but they think they are, if that makes sense. I I understand, I understand that. I can understand like that, you know, point of view. And and that's how to say that, right? Like we don't do long serious. Cool shit. When we're on skis, you know, it's like, you know, Hillary Nelson steam to load, see cooler or like, you know, those dudes who skied half dog, you know? Like that's like Bonkers to me, you know? Also, when I read about that stuff, I'm kind of like oh man, that's pretty cool. Yeah, it's a but like, like I can read about that and that's as far as I have to go. I I spent last week at tucks, Mount Washington, documents Ravine and and on our fourth lap, My eyes started burning. And I went fucking Snowblind. And like here, I am like a thirty-year-old. Yeah, I'm a thirty-four-year-old blown out. Like, two knee surgeries wedding photographer and I'm like, at the top of this mountain blind, like on a walkie-talkie. And I'm like, what am I doing? Like I suck. Like I better get free jacket next year. I'll tell you that. But like I said, it's so funny cuz we like chased these things, and that was just like the perfect algorithm, like, I had glasses, huh? You know, whatever it just, sometimes it happens, but it's like you, and you're in these situations with, like, crampons Off Saks and I'm like, you know, Wildcats across the street right, just went to school. And that's the thing. I was I always joke around like no one ever has put like ski crampons on life has been. Like, I'm so glad I had those on. We got to some great snow and some beautiful skiing mostly, it's like, let's get crampons on because I thought it was going to die. Yeah, you know, it's like, yeah. And so to me, it's dead. Stuff like that. Where I'm like, wow. Like you know like and I'm in like I've done, you know, whatever stuff that like has been super puckering. And I think I'm kind of done with that part of my life, you know. I can appreciate like when people are putting in, you know, a first descents of of things you know, but it's like when you've got like a nine-hour descent or whatever of K2 off like that sounds kind of awful, you know? Like I'd rather you know, like go like put Jorts on and like ski some like groomers and like try to like do as many like spread Eagles as possible, you know. And I think that like I so what I was surprised about in terms of this article was that like it off an article. I felt was like inherently goofy, pointing out the goofiness of skiing in an over-the-top way home. taken so seriously, and honestly, like I was a little like, kind of like there was like a small little tiny like a funeral, I had my heart a bit because like I've written in like Siri yes boss stuff about Any Community stuff like you know, climate change and alcoholism and drug addiction and mental health and like the insane suicide rate and mountain towns racism, sexism homophobia, like all these terrible forms of discrimination. Like these big-ticket things that are really kind of like, you know, Duvall, our community from the outside in and from the inside out and and like I wish it. Those things had received such like a, an emotional response, and I would hope they'll change for like, real issues, you know? And, you know, again, you know, like I'm a humorist, you know, I try to inject humor and nearly everything I create mostly, it's like, mostly I directed at myself, you know, cuz I think I'm like, the biggest change, you know? Like, if I'm not laughing at myself, then, like I'm kind of like missing out on like, the world's biggest joke. I think, you know, and sometimes taking the piss out of myself. As a great way for me to deal with something, I'm scared about or whatever. But you know, sometimes I direct my humor like at a thing or at an idea and like, very, very rarely I direct it like at a person and I think when it comes to humor, there could be this like Gray Line, right? That you walk between like funny and sometimes like harmful or hurtful. But I typically see that in dealing with like Sears Subject matter like when we are like Gallows humor, something like you're pushing like humor into like the dark parts of life. And like I just don't see skiing or Telemark skiing or any part of sliding downhill as like serious subject matter, you know. But I understand that, you know, some folks do and they misunderstood like my intention off here in the intention of the peace, you know. But not everything that I create is going to strike a positive chord with everyone and that's not realistic. And ultimately, like I'm okay with that, you know, again, we're just, you know, we're talking about sliding downhill on sticks, and I hope I made some people laugh and I hope so. I made some people off Google and uh, I'm, you know, bummed that that wasn't like widespread. But I think, I think what you said earlier, it was kind of like the Chris Chris birth. Worried, when my graphic gets pushed and you just snaps, like, we've been bullied enough. And I think everyone just saw something that they could, like, let it out and you your article and you were that person, unfortunately, and like it. Well, but also, unfortunately, like in that analogy that makes me that like, red-headed bully, you know, and that guy's such a dick. But maybe a bad example, but like it's just like, I get it. They never get any light. And I made this joke prior. But like Powder, Magazine wrote, the article, that's Telemark skiing is dead and then died. So looks total dead. Walk on eggshells, I know you've been warned. Yeah, totally, when you go ahead, go ahead. Well, I was, you know, I was just going to say like Here's here's my like, you know my my offering of of the sacrificial lamb or or offering of like the deer. Mm, you know, the the Telemark skiers, I love you. This is me saying I love you. You're worthy what you do is great and I'm I have found equipment. I am becoming one of you knew have Pawn boss. While I'm doing this, I am I have found equipment. I'm going to my friends who I wrote about, you know, in in the peace, is going to take me out. She taught all of her siblings. How to bend a knee? And I will. I'm going to genuflect my way down a hill soon. And I am very excited about it, and I'm going to be a Telemark skier. You only need one turn. Are you ready? So you Alpine the whole way, right? You just hang out. Really bad. He'll Alpine terms like back seat as much as you can and then as soon as I see Jesus, yeah, as soon as you see people or like the liftline, yes, drop that knee and make that turn and not like him like a double back and do so everyone, everyone knows like, oh dude, that guy ripped, but really you just made Acura, that's pretty much my Telemark skiers. Oh, I'm under the chairlift, check out these lunges, I'm in the woods backseat. Jesus, just hang on, pretty. Okay, good. I'll get against that then or off if you want to be a park skier. Just like anything you want like hit a jump land and like bended knee people like they lose it. Yeah, like wage. I know. Well I'm going to I'm going to I'm like in the the like I don't know. Like the in utero stage. Yeah you're thinking I'm going to tell them off. Here, like I have. I'm going to blossom into a Telemark butterfly, I can't wait. And I'm going to take all your alpine equipment and not perfect actors. Know what I'll do is I'll send you like I'll send you some like touring equipment from like you know 2010 some like gigantic like gigantic like Plato's you know other Solomon Guardian. Oh just you know even way before then you know what were those things that like you could actually in Alpine yes boss. Yes. Don't feel like these are so light. These are yeah with a bunch of skill it's like a hundred and eighteen underfoot with just like seven sheets of metal in its key like that like it'll be sick. Yeah I can't wait for that. Yeah, that'll be great. Did you? This is This is a personal question. Did you gain followers from like this article? Or did you lose followers? Or did you just get like a bunch of hate? I, you know, I don't think that, I pray a enough attention. Yeah, like the total number of of like, well, you would know like, if you jumped a thousand or lost, right? I didn't like jump anything and say, yeah. I think I think I I don't know if I think anybody who probably follows me. You know, is like knows that I take the piss out of myself and not much everything that I write about until I'm like switch gears. And it typically have like, you know, like serious like caption to follow like some type of light bulb thing like that. So I don't know if I did lose any idea. I like, but a lot of people, Found me on the internet and express their opinions to me, you know, which honestly I kind of made me feel like the protagonist and like a 1980 ski flick. I got off first time ever, in my life I've felt like John Cusack and better off dead so that that's a dream of mine. And here's our Chicago guy too. So like I felt I felt really good. That's a dream of mine right there, my face. So do you want to hear my favorite? You could say no. But my favorite Telemark like comparison to you cuz I think it's so absurd. I didn't send it to you and you might have seen it. Okay, okay. Yeah, oh, now see you know? Just yeah this is Amari again this will be this is this is the Maury. Yeah. You are the father moment that I was so nervous about. So this Thursday like last this was like last week so that are like, this is recent that this someone wrote this says, how do you feel about people in the ski industry active discriminating others in attempt to discredit, people's careers state of well-being and happiness? Thanks for the hate at ski magazine. And then to take this, then this isn't to make you feel bad cuz I think this is insane and you're going to hear why? So then they screenshot ski magazine. Or at ski magazine and write Hypocrites, ski magazine. I thought you said you were against discrimination and it's the black lives matter like logo like that like off, like guys, this is not comparable. I mean, I so I I don't like jump into, I think it's a dangerous thing to jump into the sure we're not going to dive into the action of of like off of, of anything, like, kind of negative, you know, I think that You know, and, and again, people are entitled to their reactions, and I don't want to like, you know, tell someone like, oh you should be thinking this, but I think it's a pretty dangerous thing to try to draw through line to, uh, you know, from black lives matter to Telemark skiing. Also, I would just as a word nerd, I would suggest that, you know, people look up the word discriminate and see what that is actually about. Because, uh, I, you know, in this article and I, and in every article I would never be a part of something that dog pulls the rug out in hatred of somebody because of their, you know, gender identity their race. Their religion, You know, uh, there, uh, sexual orientation, anything like that? Like, that to me is like, that's that's pretty dangerous. I would say, and do, and, and I think it's, it's one thing not to understand or get the joke here and be like, hey, why are you picking on us? But like, that's odd. Let's just, you know, be clear here at the black lives matter, movement, and discrimination, and racism, and homophobia, and transphobia and white supremacy. Like, Like, these are things that are really killing our ski community and, and really other in people. And we need to break down the barriers there, and make people more like feel, welcome here. But I think that like some some fun ribbing about equipment and how someone chooses to, to make a a turn, you know, is a whole hell of a lot different than what's your reaction to that. I was Like Furious on every angle. I actually sent it to jabber and was like, dude, what the like, I just don't know. It's like comparing like a car to a potato. Like, don't like, these are not the same thing. Like this is not even close and don't try to like, Don't try to bring that into this cuz, like, yeah, you're wrong. This shouldn't even be discussed and I debated bring it up. But at Art, I wouldn't have brought it up. If I didn't, I already talked to you and I knew you would handle it correctly. So thank you for handling that correctly and having an actual curate like well thought-out response. I didn't mean to put you on a point cuz that's not on the spot cuz that's not what I want to do here. But I think That to me, was something that like, dude, you went too far. Not you. We went too far trying to like, we're just sliding on snow having fun and that's all it should be. And like, em or tacking people on the Internet or brands or whatever. There are people behind those Brands and you and and we are no better and we are all learning. But like, let's continue to learn em like the proper response for me, and exactly what I did because I have this platform when you wrote that article, which didn't offend me. But was still, like, reach out. But I'm going to talk to this guy. I think it'll be a really exciting conversation, and I think it has, but yeah, it's apples to urge cars, to potatoes, which has cars. But again, I think like four years for something like that. It's like, I, I hope that people who are who are who have passed your responses to the things, they read, whatever they read. I hope that they get involved. Of the things like black lives matter, and the destruction of all these, like, Insidious forms of discrimination that are, that are in our, our nation or our world and definitely, within a mountain life within the ski Community, you know. And, you know, I've written a ton about that stuff and and you could check it out if you'd like, or check out the other bajillion people who have written things. Similarly, and, and, and I hope that, that, that same kind of passion is brought to those issues, because it can be really helpful in in shifting, uh, our community towards a positive I agree and it's people like you writing about these things that help shine light on cuz it's so well, it's so easy for us. To just ignore it, right? Like it's just easy for like, I'm blonde, hair, blue-eyed, white guy. I have no idea, like, and I try and I'm learning and Forever Learning and that's all we can do. And if I felt confident enough on the subjects to write about them, I would and this is my subject of this is my writing form, is this? So have this, conversation is awesome. So thank you for that shifting. Shifting gears will get away from Telemark article but you kind of do it all. Well, I travel try to what you do some podcasting stuff. Yeah. For duct tape and beer, right? Dirtbag Diaries, if I'm not wrong. Those are, those are Dirtbag. Diaries is like part of the duct tape, then beer, right? Correct. So are you hosting? Are you recording? Are you helping these people? Write the stories? Are you how involved are you with it? I mean, as much as you want to tell us about it, I guess. Well, you know, it's kind of all of those, those things. So, yeah, like you said, duck tape and beer is the production house that off. Pretty is the Dirtbag Diaries. They also produced a podcast that I was the co-host and co-writer for, which is unfortunately no longer a podcast called safety third, stage four wonderful Seasons. Anybody can go check it out and they have like the original outdoor podcast, like the OG of podcasting to begin with really dead. Like not just in the outdoor space but like just in podcasting in general, I think they're on they're like 14th or 15th year of doing this. That's why I'm which is great because it has like an insane, a catalogue of just so many, great stories. And those folks over there, like my family. I love them so much. And yeah. So, I've, I've, I recently produced a whole piece for them about kind of, like, life and skiing, and what happens to life and skiing, when everything kind of gets like upended. And then I produced a, uh, an episode for the outside magazine podcast about 80 ski flicks, and how they shaped a generation of skiers, which was a ton of fun to do and hopefully we got more stuff on on the books with both of them. And and yeah, I do, I write for ski. I write for free skier or Men's Journal. I produced kind of like short like video series, 4 different brands. I I work with brands on audience, you know, capture and I, you know, I I try to do as much as I can and different forms of media, cuz it's one. It's really fun and exciting for me and to, I got to pay rent and, you know, pay the taxes at the pizza bar. So right, right. So I try to yeah, like I said, I try to be a Swiss army knife of creativity, and do all the things, but I think that's interesting cuz most people are like, I'm a writer. I'm a photographer, I'm a videographer. I'm, you know, like and you seem to kind of do it all. Like you you didn't across country film with Solomon, right? Yeah. Yeah. And you were coming down your door. Yeah. So I assume you like wrote it, like wrote the script and like, help film it, but you're also like the actor, which you're not acting necessarily. But like You're, you're, you're the guy, you're the main character, like, you're right, you're becoming the nor dark. Well, cuz I think, you know, like one of one of the things I love to do is is like right the op-ed or the personal essay. And what I really love about that and this is something that I've always loved as a kid, you know, who grew up as a. I'm a Storyteller and a consumer of stories is like how this personal story could become Universal, given the right, you know, story-telling devices and the right-back of circumstances. And I think the cool thing about something like becoming an or dork is one, it gives me a great opportunity to take the piss out of myself and continue to challenge myself, to try new things, and try my damndest not to take myself, seriously, when I'm just awful at something. Like, I'm a terrible Nordic Skier, it's so hard, and it's yep. Really hard like a little hard, like, anyone who hasn't done it. Take a pair of like low, top Converse, and like duct tape them to a piece of wood and just try to walk around walk, right? It's, it's like, it's like, it's like you have like six foot, long, clown shoes and you have like the, the, your boots of the structural Integrity of the wet sneeze. And it's just so everything. Also everything, you know about, like skiing downhill, just throw out because there's no edge control. There's no, it's just so hard. Like my legs. There's a line in one of the episodes where I'm like, damn, I feel like my legs are doing so much and then nothing at the same time. Like it's it's a great way to feel like a newborn deer on a frozen puddle, you know? Cuz you're just exact limbs or everywhere. And that my favorite part about cross country skiing not to interrupt you but like, hey cross country skiing is really hard. Let's add guns and make it an Olympic sport. I know, like, the last thing I want is to, like, have stuffing, like I'm supposed to shoot the other thing too, with those people, like, how are they controlling their breath? I go. Like, I take one step and I'm like, I'm at this like, aerobic output where I'm just like, on fire and these people are trying to like shoot stuff, it's insane, totally insane. My body looks like a like, you know, when you exit a sauna bath just like a cloud of steam, that's a second. I put Nordic stuff on. It's just like Rising. Yummy. The phone, the whole time. Yes, you're you are absolutely correct. I mean it's like wage is the hardest Mountain sport that have ever again and I think that like part of so part of the the you know the series becoming an orator, that's kind of the point of it right? Is like oh it's it's just personal essay that I catch on video and it was super fun to do Solomon, you know, sponsored it and then REI wage. Um distributed it on their YouTube channel and it was just a way, you know, I kind of I kind of knew that or figured that that Nordic skiing was going to blow up this form. Um you know, because we didn't know what was going to happen with ski resorts or the back country and I talked to my buddy Joe over at Solomon. I was like, hey, have you guys sold out of all your like NordicTrack? Yeah, we like don't have anything and I was like okay I have an idea when they're right it up and what I did is I wrote up a script for it and instead of sending the script over to him I sent you know I actually filmed it all I filmed well perfect. So the first thing of the whole becoming an or dorks series is this like series teaser and I actually that was what I sent over to Joe and was like, hey, this is the idea that I have, he was like, I like this, let's there's something here and so, you know, again it's just like, hey, watch me be a novice, don't you birth? Worry about being stupid and looking silly. And in front of people, I'll be stupid for you, and we can all giggle and laugh and watch me fall down. Do you think that, do you think it helps sell? I have this debate often. Like do you think that sells skis, or do you think it makes People who already bought their equipment, feel more comfortable. That like this is hard, not necessarily cross-country everything, but like everyone's got with your stuff specifically, everyone's struggling. So when you get the trailhead, it's okay to be like, but do you think that directly help sell product. You know, I think so right and well in this is like, this is going to be like the the this is like the age gold, like marketing versus sales like conversation, you know, life? Like you know it's like well how is X like sell my widget? I need to see like the direct line and like, you know, marketing's like well, you know, people don't buy Nikes cuz they're great issues. People buying Keys cuz they're cool. You know, right. We need to sell the cool. And so, I think, I think yes, you know, like if if I, if I see, you know, it took my thought is that like, the power of know, is so strong in our in our heads, even if we get the new gear, right? It's like, I don't want to feel stupid in front of someone who's really good at this. So, I'm just not going to do this thing. I think that, you know, it hopefully, it inspired people to get out on trail and not take themselves seriously and just go out and enjoy the goofing. Sip trying something new, and the challenge of it. And if that sold some skis for the, the people that I partnered with, you know, I hope it did more than anything. I hope it's sold the idea that like, you know, you're okay to do this. It doesn't really matter if you're good at it, or you're bad at it. You can still be a Nordic Skier or a mountain biker. If your quote unquote bad at it, if you've just love to do it, that's enough. I wish we could put that on billboards everywhere. If you love the idea, you're like second business idea of this conversation if you love your level of Life. Yeah. Oh and I already have another one. We're going to review Aspen extreme on Christmas Eve every year for the next ten years. In a podcast. I'm into it, Show, Me podcast. That's been doing this super side note. It's called my brother, my brother and me and they every year I think it's Christmas Eve day review, Paul Blart Mall Cop, but it's off. But like you put Paul part on and you put the podcast on and like every year, it's like amazing. Cuz it's just, that's brilliant. It's brilliant. But I think if you I don't remember what you said anymore. But if you love something, then go do it. I think is what it was. Like, God. That's That if you, if you love, if you love the sport, it doesn't matter if you're good at it or bad at it, or intermediate at it like that. You can identify with that thing. Yeah. Do you think you'll go ahead? I was going to say, like I'm going to be an intermediate mountain biker for the rest of my life because rocks and dirt, really hurts sticks and trees really hurt. I don't want to like send my tuna off of like off some sick jump or anything. I don't want to get in the air at all, you know, like I just want to like go uphill, hate that my lungs are burning as much as they are and then kind of go downhill like a sort of like a fast clip but then if it gets too steep I'm probably going to walk it. You know like I'm still going to call myself a mountain bike or do and that's the thing is like I don't think that like you're like you're not earlier bow added to like makes you like a skier or a biker or like a trail Runner of flyfisher, whatever you know. It's like no I love this thing and that's enough for me to call my boss. That day. Yeah, it's hard to get that, though. Like you go to some ski resorts and we I know you're not a big Park skier but like you go to some parks and like I'm I'm not a good Park skiers like in 2005 I was like okay and I still have all those tricks so like that's where I'm at like I'm not going to get better. I'm not hopefully don't get worse. I'm just going to keep it just tricks but like I go to some resorts and some terrain parks. And like, everyone's just pumped on you being there, right? Yeah, people, you don't know they're like pumped. Then you go to some other parks and they're like, get off the lip and like yelling at you down. And I always question, like, how do we as an industry? Like, how do you? You can't create a Vibe, but like can Brands, like, pick up slogans that like, skiing spur. Everyone from me to Cody Townsend, right? Like I think brands are like, you know, recognizing that and making that like shift, you know, when a cold shift buzzword off. There you go. Like, into, let's talk about the deliverables of action items here. Yes, yes. You know, like I I think like, I think we as a community, can't get that Vibe just like, I'm out here having fun, you know, like, I'm not a park skier, but a lot of stuff in the, I don't want to ski around metal. It scares me like those gigantic. Antic like, uh, you know, like thirty foot booters or just like, there's no way I'm hitting that, but I'll, I'll, I'll like, hit the little side head and do a safety, Grange, or like a little mini tweak or my favorite, my spread eagle. Well, right, cuz I'm just like a gigantic six-foot-five 230-pound X flying through the air song, favourite trick. That's the only real trick. I have a trick. I think it's a Cossack, when you put like your hand but I'm like, cuz then it shows my height between your legs, but showed my High Country. Well, like, well, and that's I think that I, I would do that if I had any body control in the air, I feel like my arms. Just instinctively go up. You know, that's like a pack up and go up. Yeah, I think there's a we Factor so I don't know. I think I certainly like the whole kind of thing that like, you know, creating the vibe thing is like, I don't know, maybe it's calling out the things that are like, you know, not allowable just to be goofy at this thing. All right, 4th business idea, searching for we and it'll just be a shame for a week. Yeah, I know this like a very serious documentary documentary about like us looking for that that we, but that's, and that's the thing. Like, it's like the, we like the hug, the community, we of like us. Yeah. Also the we, as in like the Yahoo multi-level. I love onion. Purchase. Love, onions. Love onions. Know, I just it's always funny cuz I like I haven't been doing this podcast long but like it's been mostly like semi pro skiers or like Semi-Pro something. And then, last week, I had Nicole from birth. Mom Trends and she's a mom bloggers. Whose like God of this giant following. She talked about how ski resorts are just like missing out on like probably their biggest cash. Grab opportunities, which is life family's. Like, if I go there, I'm a dirtbag, I probably like by an icon pass it, half off cuz I know somebody in the industry and then everyone's mad at me. But I like right like scan my icon through the thing real quick and took my pocket. So, no one like, I'm not the problem but like I don't spend a dime of your pocket. Next to your lunch, your frozen pizza from last night that you brought, you know, cuz I stole like from home, but, like, Park and their lot sleep in their lot, didn't move my car. Even though I knew the snow plow was coming, and I'm, like, I'm right around that moving, but they don't make any money off me. And told me to call it was like, which is so simple and stupid, but I'm simple and stupid. So I was like, oh, light bulb, why aren't they, why are more Resorts marketing to families, Which object Some are but why aren't more Resorts marketing? The we factor of just like, oh it doesn't have to be a Potter Day to have fun, right? Exactly. Being and snowboarding and sledding and tubing is fun. Water parks are fudging on. Why can't we just have fun anymore? You know, and I I hope that like that's that's to take away from, you know, the stuff that I create, you know, is that again it's like I just want to make people think and I want to make people laugh and if I'm, I'm hopefully adding to that, you know, we factor that we don't want. Yeah. Searching for we I was I watched, I don't know. I was watching the news this morning and they were asking the older generation, what is an adult and then they were asking, like our generation. What is an adult? And then they were asking, like, kids. What is just a dolt and like the older generation was like, you go to school, you get a job, you get married, you have kids and then you die and like, our generation was, like, you've gotta work sometimes and like, you gotta have a little fun and then, like kids were just like, massive student loan debt and you're thinking how did my parents do this one? And they were my, they didn't have what we had in the best ways possible. They did have, you know, they weren't looking at their phones and like feeling pressure to like, keep up with Johnny, or like they did their thing and they survived and I think that's what we are all trying to do is survive in general. So, I don't know. We're going with that. Hopefully, it's Thrive off and not survive. Yeah, that's a No Effects lyric I think, is it really? Yeah, not just not just I was really hoping that I had come up with something. No, I think it's a, I'll find everything. Stolen, everything still nothing's sacred. That's that, like that's true. Do you Google like five years before? You write them? Cuz everything is stolen yet. Mostly. Yeah. Mostly my career is just a hundred percent plagiarism. I would say no, but I forget his name from low pressure pot, just interviewed jabber. And it's for like they open and and he asks, have you ever had an original idea in your life and Adam was like, no phone number was like No. And then they talked and I was like, that's deep like that's a deep cut. Well, there's there's a, there's a line in in storytelling or in writing, right? There's, there's no new stores. There's this new ways to tell them, you know. And and I think that, you know, any, anybody who creates any kind of story, you know, or or something that people are going to consume is like wage. Trying to tell I'll um you know, uh something you know, trying to tell a story that's worthy through a new and original way, you know, have I ever come up with an original idea. I would like to think though, what is that one? I don't know. I mean, no one's no one's ever hated on Telemark skiing, dude. That was like the first one. Yeah, the first one. You were the most hated one for sure. I know what's next. What do you got coming? What can you talk about? That you have coming, what do you want to see? And yeah, what do you want to see how well ski industry and what's next? For mr. At Pat O'Connell Patty. Well, I would say that, you know, now that hopefully, you know, the world is going to become vaccinations encoded. It's going to be uh, you know, a thing of the past. I do a lot of event works. So there's some events that I'm kind of like hoping happen in the next few months that can be done in a in a safe way. You know, I'm I'm actually next week going on my first production shoot. Congratulations. Put some more stuff in front of the camera and behind the camera. And then, you know, one second I lost you after production shoot, but we seem to go back on. So you had your first next week, you have your First Baptist shoot. I might first production shoot in over a year which is kind of like an insane thing to say out loud. And also it's a little, like, oh God. Do I remember how to do this myself. I'm excited about that. That's all I can say about that right now. Are you soon? And then you know, the podcast world, I'm going to be doing some stuff with Dirtbag Diaries and outside podcast. I'm hoping some other folks and uh, you know, some more stuff in front of behind the camera and I'm going to continue to write for free skier and for ski magazine and and all the other folks that I asked for and just, you know, continue to do all the things and try to continue to come up with observational humor, that will be put on the internet off. Hopefully make people laugh and thick. I love it. I appreciate you being on. I'm sorry for throwing that loophole that Mari moment at you earlier. I had thought that it was going to be a like a major, you are the father moment. But yeah, I thought I promised. I wouldn't do that but I kind of hit you later. Thank you for taking another hour of your life. God And chatting with me. Hopefully this one saves. Yeah, I I hope I hope we're not doing this again. I'm sorry. We're, we'll have to do it live and we'll just like invite Bots. Yeah, it'll be a webinar. Yes, yes. Where can people follow you? What your website Instagram? Well, my website is Patty. Rock.com p a d, d. Y r, o c. Which I think we talked about this last time. Like, some people think like, oh, like, what does that Patty rocks? And it's like, no, it's just my initials Rhino, and and that's the same handle for my Instagram p. A d. D y r o c. And that's where you can find the latest apps and you know, the latest black humor and what I'm working on. Great. Thanks Patty. Thank you for doing this again, dude. And you know, I'm excited to become a tell Marks here and I'm excited for you to to be an Alpine fear. I'm so excited. I'm so excited to rip again. Yeah. Wow. Guys, there it is, episode 10 of the pursuit, on the audubon's network box. So carnal at Pat, Iraq. At p a d, d. Y r, o. See if you haven't, figured it out by now. I'm Patty. And I recorded last week and my computer crashed, so I lost everything. So a huge shout-out to Patty for hopping on the podcast again and gave an episode. I feel like Patty and I are best friends now and I hope he hears this and we can be best friends cuz I really like a small stash, we had a really good talk and not like an extreme and skiing stupid and we both agree on it. So petty rock. Thanks again, thanks for listening Pursuit. Leave a review and we'll see you next week off.

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Exes to Text with Laura Prepon

Whine Down with Jana Kramer and Michael Caussin

57:04 min | 1 year ago

Exes to Text with Laura Prepon

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Michael just got back from his two week biweekly grocery store adventure. How is it it was? Fortunately quiet. So I went to whole foods and publix because we get different things at different stores. And it was a remarkably quieter than it had been. In the past everyone. Ninety five percent of people saw had masks was. That's so weird to see. Everyone have math because I have not been out of the House I'm living my mind. I have not been out of the house. For a little over a month, so I haven't seen like a store or driven my car. I don't even know if I'm going to be able to drive car. I'm going to be like. How do I stop this thing? For like. I can't imagine like zooming with some of my girlfriends last night, and we were just talking about like 'cause they have gone to the store and I was like man. What a weird! Reality that now we see 'cause I'm an be real honest. I usually when I saw both masks on like at the airport and link in you know. It's like or are easy. I'm like okay. Calm down, but now it's like I was like Michael. Do not leave without a math now on us i. feel like we live in Asia now. And I mean that's fair, nor is not. That is just the culture you see that often in their culture. Because you gotta think about it, they they're show overpopulated. Is that I? I think so. I think it's I. Think it's a part of their culture in I also think it's because they're so densely compacted. I can population where it's things probably spread. Easier there. Possibly when you're on top of each other as much as they are. Maybe they're just a lot smarter and they're like some coming before, yell did. Right, but I'm saying even before before now. Like. It's like they. They're more aware of I. Don't know. But now it's like I was like you have to wear either a scarf or we don't have a massively. You were Brandon on Indiana, but that must have been like what was it? Was it just weird to see everyone wear masks? Where the checkout people wearing them to. Sell Weird and a lot of stores from Home Depot to whole foods to. Public save a lot of them. Have like temporary class shields up. Like between. The cashier and the customer really. I feel I'm Kinda. Glad I I know that. We said that I was going to go grocery shopping because you have bad asthma, but I think having anxiety taxes seeing all that. Like I think it would feed my anxiety more and then I would totally freak out, and then I for sure couldn't drive my car because I'd be like gum. Then you'd forget half the things I needed you to get. Yeah I. Just think I need to get out of here. The lesser of two evils that. Gives us. Less anxiety if I go and you stay, because if it's the other way around having Zaidi of you're not getting the right things you'd have anxiety been there. Yeah and I was lever fast and forget everything, but because I think just seeing that is just like the reality of just like Oh. Man, this is. This is. Not Good you're it's it's. It's going to be interesting. What a lot of people have been talking about the new norm. You know like what's the new norm going to be? How long is this going to be a thing? How long are these dividers going to be at grocery stores or homedepot? How long are people going to be wearing masks I mean honestly I feel like we should take these precautions. I mean not to the economy. Shut down, but you know for flu season like let's not shake hands. Hands even though that's hard for me to do, but like you know just to be more cautious during those times like hates flu season because a lot of the sixteen thousand people a year die from the flu, so it's like hey, and obviously Cova dhs worse a mountain. It's more death rate, but I feel like we should just put more things in place to not easily spread things. Offering but I have a headache from claiming all the groceries I. Don't know if it works I. Don't know if it's I'm wasting my time, but all I know is this time around I washed everything with the clorox. With the CLOROX and now I have a headache so bad, but I do I will say just because I'm a mom. When we get any of the groceries out the next few days like we just need to make really wash your hands, 'cause I might not. I might have missed a spot and lives on there for a minute so. Like for a few days for sure, slush is like the next few days. It's really like be mindful absolutely. Sorry just to let you in on a little like know, husband wife Chat. And we had a little passiveness. While I was doing it. I don't know why, but. I'm really excited because we have a really awesome guest on today Laura prepaid and She's an actress. She's a mother. She's now an author She was on The netflix series. Orange is the new black Obviously, she made her television debut on seventy show Did you watch that seventies? Show I remember doing I, didn't either. But I heard it was funny for group. Rings Yeah I. Never Person Do but I'm excited to meet her through skype and I'm excited to hear about her book and her journey as a mom so Super excited you know she's married to Ben Foster. Little Trivia fact. He's such a great actor. He's fantastic. What was a movie with him and Chris Pine that we are obsessed with. HIGHWATER highwater. That's one of my favorite movies. Top top movie like probably top. Seven. It's in the top ten for sure yeah. I haven't seen that movie. It's incredible. Did you watch orange his new book? I started it. I remember years ago my Kinda shortly after came out I is one of those times where you know. I was trying to watch like four different shows at one time. Just got lost in translation. I watched the first few seasons. Yeah, yeah, it was really good I liked it a lot into something about women in jail me. I, have like a weird thing with. Journal marks are about US women do I. Do like them a lot. So right before the whole quarantine thing happened I got to me Abby Wambach and Glennon. Doyle and it was like dreams. Do come true. Fantasy all in one room. I was like I couldn't even talk to abby. I was just. Shuttered bounded yeah smitten like a little kitten. She gotTA. Just put me in her pocket. With. Little Girl Toy. I know I'm really excited talk to Laura because she seems like a bad ass, and let's take a break and then let's get her on. What's great about CBD is that it helps you feel better without making drastic changes to your routine. Just like me. Having CBD is really helped my joint pain. He's allowed me sleep easier. It's been fantastic. But are those droppers full funny tasting tinctures. The best modern science had offer not a chance meet caliber, a better way to consume CBD. Unlike CBD, oils caliber CBD. Powder is completely tasteless and mixes easily and any food or drink I use it my morning, coffee or my nighttime water before bed. It's unreal. 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Just we can bond with our baby and our toddler abso- plan to be isolating now anyway before my book tour, which is now the book tour started so, but we were definitely planning isolating for very different reasons. By. We're doing okay. Were we try to stay informed of course and not let it be too scary. You know as we just kids pick up on that stuff you know, so. We're really trying to stay. Informed and find levity laugh when we can, because you just have to find levity. Urge just all to devastating, so we try to just love. Re can spend a Lotta time with our kids and. We're just doing campus like everybody else is the newborn boy. Yeah, and then the older one is A. Two and a half to have yester- all and she is, she used. She was born in a boy, two dozen seventy. I have no break right now. breastfeed August seventeen maybe. But yeah, it's it's incredible. It's incredible having to allot especially with the salt isolation. A you know what I'm saying to a really rough transition for us, because we have a four year old girl, and then a sixteen month, old, little boy so always. Existed wet like it's when we hit two. It's like I'm really glad we had a lot of therapy because I. don't know if we would have. made it through because it's hard because you don't have time at all, it's just like I got one you got one, and then it's like then. Yeah, it's it's. It's definitely a real tough transition, did you? Did you find it harder well? You know we're only like. Seven, weeks end so it's not. It's on. It's it's been really a thank goodness. Here's what I will say. Thank goodness. Our toddler is trained because we really were, we were really strict to the training. Certain point at a certain point. Where like we have jots you. Started three months for every kid same. Oh, he's so. We started with our daughter. We started too late. We started way too late, but we got to point where we think we have to handle this is. Once their sleep train for me for us. It was engaging game changer. Because then they go down and then number one I feel like it's much better for her. And this is my own personal experience. Look. I would never tell anybody ever. Nobody like what you were saying. Though it is better for them to. Though like I'm like such an advocate, even like I have girlfriends that their kids don't go to bed till like nine ten o'clock and I'm like. That's great. It works for you, but for us like I know my kid like she's a. she's a toddler the next day when she gets sleep like hundred when she does the Napkin. She has the routine so I'm totally like on same page like the sleep trading. And for us, it's better to because we know. She goes down in her bedtime and and. My husband and I have time to. Download the day in like. Hang out together and have dinner together and like you know when it's not. The state of the world is happening now. If we put our kids down and then we get a babysitter, we can maybe go to dinner. It's just everything is such a game changer when the kids asleep trained, but again everyone different waiting Awesome but burroughs game changer so now with a newborn. Of course that's all out the window but I gotta say the facts that we know. Our daughter was asleep at a certain time. Yeah, help so that we're just focused on newborn. You know what I mean. You see that light at the end of the tunnel. Knowing that you newborn is and get to that point where she is too, and that's kind of where we're at where it's like okay, we know at seven o'clock. The kids are down. We're high. Kirk. Day We're good. Popping open a Bauerlein or having a drink, and it's party time. You started both at three months, yeah. I was so strict like I was just one specific. Yeah, it was. It was about I. would say IT'S A. Well, there's a book to it's. Twelve twelve week extra twelve weeks, olders okay. Yeah, I, mean you they. They're kind of the similar, but we want by baby wise, and then it was just eat feed. was eat feed play sleep. but I mean it worked like a dream, and it worked for JAS. To I will say though on our second JAS doesn't need as much sleep as Jolie did, so we kind of had to. Unfortunately we dropped announced sooner but I mean having a little boy is just like. Isn't it the best? I am so. Glad that our I was a girl I, really out because I always thought I wasn't one of those people who like we dream about the day I got married, or the day I had. This was never made I started working at such a young age. I was always so focused on my career, and I knew that I wanted to wait until I met my partner might I wanted to wait until I was with my husband. And my husband and I didn't get together slumps thirty six, so we you know we both. I mean I'm not going to see? Prohibit I focus on my career. And then finally he came into my life even though we've known each other sooner eighteen. Know we took the you know the the buffy. Your. We always say that we're like we are in each other. But? It's you know the fact that I started lay just was a. it was a very different experience for me, but the fact that we had a girl, I. I thought was very very cool like I never thought about I. Never Liked Plan my wedding or thought about young jumps about. And then finally when it was right, it was just right. But if I ever did have the thought. I always thought it was going to have a boy I. which was weird. Well I kind of wanted a boy I because I grew up with an older brother and. So I was like yeah, I want like the older brother, but I will tell you what you know I'm so glad I had a daughter I, too, because she's so good with the baby and she's just. She's really like I think she helped. Ease my way into motherhood a little bit. Because obviously, we don't know what we're doing but there's something about a little girl just having I. Know it just. It, really yeah, but now I mean the little boy. Just it's such A. Greasy. I totally got but in your book, so it's you and I as mothers, and it was I was when I was reading the breakdown. You said you're like you were blindsided when you became a mother. What what blindsided you? What was the thing that was like that you weren't expecting? Any of it. Like any of it I. You know I've always been I. Pride Myself on this like I've always felt like the rock. I've always been my friends. Call me like the rock of Gibraltar, like they would always come to me to get things done I think that's why I I tend to thrive in different kinds of roles like director, because as director I'm really good with large amounts of responsibility at pressure stress, you thrive in chaos like I'm I'm very good at putting like order in Jewish education like that, which is why I feel like directing so comfortable. When I became a mother, it was lake I was a complete, but I could not take care of myself or my family everything and it wasn't was. Are Sorry Depression, it wasn't depression. It was an anxiety that I've never experienced before. And the anxiety came from protecting this baby that I I didn't understand what was going on number one. I didn't understand the hormones. The hormones just took over, and I had no clue what the hell to do. I could not take care of myself I put it together with my family. I wasn't nourishing any of US properly like I was totally, and then I was so stressed out, and it would affect my milk. It was like a whole thing and I have really really bad. coz farming's -iety. And that's probably one of the biggest things that threw me being someone who's usually the Rock Conseil I felt like I couldn't take care of myself right family and it was really really hard for me, and then that's when I decided that I needed to write this book because. I feel like there's all these things that as mothers we. Don't talk about that. are still kind of like shrouded in darkness and I don't in secrecy, and I'm not sure why, because it's Ok that we don't have everything figured out right now. You know I also as a working mom being a stay at home. Mom is justice hard. But for me as a working mall like I would wear this, Mike. Maternal Badge of honor like I had this. Approach to maternity like I was going to go back to work, and nobody would now that I'm suffering, nobody would know that power through. New Sleep. You know the fact that we basket case like nobody's GonNa now i. have this weird thing that has approved. And I wasn't sure what I'm. Why why do I have this thing that I feel like? I need to prue. And I realized that I'm suffered from all these things like the stress, the loss of control mom gilts like self care deserve self care like all these things I realized that mothers of all ages all dealing with. On, and that's why interview. My Mom's slaughtered them both, which is mothers, all ages backgrounds. Children. They had all children of different ages at I. Specifically wanted not only myself. My own stories from my mom's gone so that anybody can really read this book and have something to relate to because they feel like. We're all suffering from these common subjects. You know what I mean so that's why I wanted to write this. I couldn't find the stuck out. There are sounds like I'm just gonNA. Write it. I've an incredible amount of empathy for you. MOMS because you don't hear dad shaming right, you hear of like Mommy. Shaming and it feels like. Society and people have puts all the pressure on y'all, and when really it's equally the husband, the mom and the Dad, our responsibility to do and to go through all of this and I know the second time around for Jan and I. Really communicate on how we honestly feel in a moment, really helped us just being like allowed her. Not feel alone. Because Jan is very much like you. She thrives on chaos. If things aren't going crazy around her, she's uncomfortable. She needs like things to like it's it's insane. She has to have it so for her to finally lean into me and us to meet their for me to reassure her that she's not alone. Wouldn't what she's feeling at times? Really helped us the second time around, and my question to you is. Like. Hey, how is bend your husband? You know how is he stepped up as you as a father? Kind of you know been there I wanNA focus on the positive of the husband wife mom. Dad Connection like the for the second one second want around. Yeah he look I'm so fortunate because he is the best partner husband everything I could have ever asked for. And before we got together, I wrote a list I'm not kidding and I say this to my single friends. I wrote a list of exactly what I wanted and I'm like this is what I want and I'm not talking about way I did that. It's the dear God letter. Please send me this man. That's exactly. My back. And it's not about it's like real true connection south, but I wrote down from. Connecting on levels that it's not just about looks in this I mean obviously of course being attractive burners big deal, but it's like the really deep things. That I was looking for in my life partner, and once I wrote that list. He was there. And now you know what I mean so I and I did a lot of my own work to be ready to have him in my life, and that's a whole other you know situation, but and that's why we say earn each other, but I'm really fortunate in that he is the most incredible partner I could ever ask for and when I was going through all this. On when I first started kind of putting it down and writing about it, he was the one who really inspired me to. Start writing it in the form of a book. Raise like you can't be the only one dealing with this. He said there's you know there's so many other women out there. That have got him struggling with his too, and that was one of the size of the fact how I helped work through things by writing about it and getting it out. You will do their communication we all. but he was a big inspiration on that regard to. You know opened my eyes to. You should think about writing about this. Can heal from. It sounds really supportive. Yeah I like amazing. Mean I'm very fortunate and you know the other thing. Sue his I also write in my book. I have an entire chapter on partnership because. You know everybody can relate to a chapter partnership how to keep your partnership strong after kids are in the midst, the other thing too is. And again that's myself my own stories. My my mom's gone. You know a bunch of timing in, but the other thing too is that I can't tell you how many people have read? The book came out a week ago. Who? Are, not. Mothers or my air may choose not to be who are still getting so much out of the book as well as partners getting a better understanding of what their partner went through. As a mother. I can't tell you how many people have gone some because I speak to these things of. Stress Control anxiety. That's just gonNA. Ask Them in the book because Do you talk about ways like how you've been able to cope with your anxiety? In ways that are helpful for for those suffering with anxiety, I'm like I I've matting Zaidi like awful anxiety me to the point where you know we were going to film something and I was just like, but if I'm not with the kids and you know, and then I just like I feel like a bad mom. It but I'm trying to support my family, and so it's just one of those struggles where it's just like and then I'm terrified to fly because Oh my God. What if something happens and then I? Just my entire like? Just, body is taken over with anxiety and fear so I'm just curious if you're right about that too i. that's exactly what I wrote like real. That's exactly there's a whole section on that because I was going through that as well. Here's the thing that was so important for me. This book was. Not only did I want to share these. Usually Ivan look. I've been fortunate enough to be my industry for over twenty years and I love what I do, and it's a constant negotiation on because I'm a very private person. Though an anything I do that arouse my family. My husband and I have a conversation about it, and we make sure that we're on the same page with that, because with what I do, obviously in the public eye, and we always make sure that we are in agreement with guy, and so, but some along the stuff that assured in my book is really personal stuff, but I felt like it was so important for the first time, because I felt like there was this conversation that wasn't being had that. I really wanted to drop my defenses. Ensure these truths than I share a lot of stuff, misspoke that. I is really vulnerable for me, but I felt so Horton silicon really have this conversation and. You know one of the things, too is besides sharing stories and the stories from my mom's Clyde. Giving tools was a huge thing that I wanted in this book. I wanted to give the reader tool so that after they read the book, actually take time to read the book. Because you know sitting down and reading a buckets like I WANNA make sure that I can get something better walking away with something. You're learning going to therapy and then being like, but then how do we? What do we do to stop exactly fix it. So I wanted to give that to the reader so I give a lot of tools in the book that you can leave with and put into action in your life, because that is so badly what I wanted and that is what I wanted to give the reader because I needed tools on how to navigate through this, and and again when I'm dealing with a particular anxiety. You were just talking about you. Know my friend who has an eighteen year old kid? She was dealing with anxiety, but because of a completely different subject because her kid is older, but we were both dealing with. So, it's really relatable to women of all ages, and those tools were really important to me to give. The book in every chapter there's that and then at the end of the shops are also asks the reader to reflect on their own situation, so I really tried to make the book like a conversation like a dialogue back and forth London I won like eminent can order on Amazon. Perfect SEGUE! Everywhere everywhere books are out and. It's you know you can order visible copy. You can get up. It's it's out. Do you dad have anxiety is by the way? I mean I'm? I do, but you know me I'm. He'd you never get? Over. I am. But that's why we balance each other out. because. In it's like terrible turbulence, then like Oh my God I could've been a great mother. My never going to know me and he's just like sitting there, watching his ipad like methods happening. I control what I control. Less so great. You pretty much answered my question about what can people you know? Leave with the a out of this book, and but I will say I again I appreciate and respect the fact that you're being so open because I understand being in the public eye and being a celebrity status it's. It's scary to lean into that honest promotion experience that you may be going through but with a book like it sounds like yours is. You can't bullshit that stuff like people. Readers will read right past. That'd be like this. Isn't this, isn't me? This is all fluff, and so I'm inspired to to read to Gina and especially that you talk about partnerships, and that people that aren't aren't aren't even married and don't. Don't have kids can get something out of it John and I are all about that life and that therapeutic life in learn more about each other and everything so we'll definitely check it out, and we hope all the readers married or not or kids or not check it out to you and I, as Mother's Laura, thank you so much. I know you're on this crazy book tour right now so I just. Thank you so much for having me and thank you for what you're doing and. I'm just yeah. Thanks for having me on. United, Tabassum, so excited to read your book burnings. By Guy. She so sweet. Sweet! Left her. She was awesome. I just really appreciate what she said that she tried to find the book and she couldn't find. It says she wrote it like I. Appreciate People that are willing to share their stories because. They couldn't find it for themselves. Another wanting to give it back to somebody else I just like I really love that a lot. No I think it's great. It's very powerful thing for someone to do I. Just think it's funny, though like the difference in a mom and dad when it comes to just. The reality I mean. So much so that I freak out because. You know for some reason. Jason's room just does not get heat to it, and he's you know. Michael's been quarantine of in the room up in his room like playing video games like at night, and he will keep turning the like the cooler I. Just like in my mind. There's been so many times when I've gone up there and I'm like. Michael you have to keep the heat on. Because it's going to freeze that little boys room and I. I stay up and. Maybe that's I'm waking up in such a panic every night. Because even last night I went to made share to go upstairs i. put the heat on, and then you know I was like. Oh, honey, it's really cold newsroom site, but the heat. I'm like. Please don't change it and I swear to God this morning. When I. Woke Up and got that little boy, he was like an icicle in his room. You put the Damn courant. Thinking to myself I was like Mike. Don't forget she's. A little man being cold. He literally was like this. Walked into his room. The other. So, that's our morning off great. But it's just like you know again like I wake up in the middle of night. Thinking those things and you're just like you wake up and you're like. I want some chicken nuggets French fries. And it's every you know how funny cartoon or you know. When there's the the funnies in the in the papers, the funny papers go comic cartoons in the papers and stuff. It's like you see others. Representations of women thinking in depth on then like. You know thinking about what you know. What color their poop was at morning or something. So it's. Guys in general I think a little bit more lax in our relationship. You know I am again. We balance each other out and do you ever it? Like? What are your fears about? Parenthood in in the kids like I. Do you. How do you genuinely have any fears? Or anxiety. Or do I just carry them all for you. Do I. DO I worry enough? But my whole thing is about being prepared, so we have an arsenal because he thinks zombies are coming, Hey! We didn't we didn't know Kobe was coming. He can't shoot it and Janet gave me shit about all these latex gloves that I bought for the garage. Stuff and we use them all the time now. I did that came in and it's so the fifty thousand sanitizer bottles that I bought like a a year ago. It's for me I. Think it's just preparation and I always tease that. A part of my personalities, doomsday proper in a fallout shelter, one day or something. But that's what relieves. My anxiety is. If she goes down. We have what we need and. You know that goes back to when I was a kid. You know the thing I've said about. My Dad is like in any situation. Regardless of? Therapy last week. You have how things are going. I never. Was Truly worried because I knew my dad could handle something. Like a didn't matter what it was I, just knew my dad handle it. In such a reassuring feeling as a kid. Like at the end of the day, I like my dad's got us. You know so, and that's I. Want that so badly for y'all like arcades I want you to be able to be like no matter what's going on in the world were together, and dad's got US might freeze the out of the house, but he's got. You might have the AC on in the wintertime, but he's got you. It is just one of those things like that. So that's for me I'm trying I. Think it's naturally instilled in me to be calm, cool collected and a lot of ways, because that's how my dad was, and I wanna be that. Rock in that sense for y'all. which I think, every man wants to be for their family, but it's just knowing that my dad. Absolutely was that I. Don't really register a lot of fears in situations, yeah! Yeah So, I mean I can definitely. I can understand that for sure and I'll say you're. Becoming my rock because you are better with my anxiety and stuff instead of. Making deals stupid. Yeah, like you've done an incredible job with that, so I mean I. I'm starting to trust. In the Rock, but I got you yeah yeah yeah. Yeah And the theme of the previous episode, she still has questions. But. HOW BIG OF A ROCK! A rock. What kind of rock are you I? Know I've stopped asking as many. Here's the deal. sometimes we're just a nagging wife. Yes and it's I love that mid. That's what we argue about now rather argue about a nagging wife, then A. Sure. You know what? Brand wise and and I wasn't gonNA say. No secret? Let's take a break. Everyone, then bullet here host of stuff. They don't want you to know in ridiculous history as a podcast I am constantly reading and researching for upcoming episodes, but even need an occasional break, so when I feel like I need some kind of mental pallet cleanser. 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What I what I make up is you have two ways to go with this? You either going to text him like I'm sorry, my bad or you can take some I miss you. Why would you? Say that. You missed an ex. Not Me, but I'm saying people like what else would you hey? I had Broccoli for breakfast. Like what are you going to text them? And say and I would tex-mex and say as I right now. I know the exactly the Axa text. I would text the X.. As their baby crying. Nothing is me breathing in. Like a dying. Little. Whistle and your news. Now okay, so my Hashtag. What X tax challenge is. I would say. I'm really sorry. For the person that I was and the way that I. Wasn't healthy enough to be in that relationship. With? Brantley. Shut it. No I'm just saying like you know. I was just a I wasn't. More, no, my God. I'm just saying. I wasn't the best version of myself. In that relationship, I just wasn't right. And I, I will always have a little bit of regret. That I didn't handle things better. For sure, and that's adult amateur of you I. Mean I would practically say the same thing. To Yours Yeah Well, we're not going to reach them because that wouldn't be healthy. Who would be yes I know. Rock Yeah Yeah. anyways. So, if y'all can email, no, we are not done okay. JANITORS WANNA. Take this opportunity to actually know us. SHOULD DM US on our wind down podcasts? Instagram yes, so it's winedown podcast. DM US and know you're one acts that you on us. And why and we will next next episode we will share some share. You can be anonymous, but to share the person's first name. Yeah, so we can be like for Stacey out there. I'm sorry for yeah, we'll. We'll be your apology. I love that sweet. Or you're not just your apology, lawyer or your afew you mother beeper. Oh. He's GonNa be fine. do any emails we do. Let's. Remaining. I'M GONNA. Check my Diem stew on the wind down podcast and save got, but okay. Read me an email I write this emails from a tourist in my own world, titled Issues in the Bedroom. My boyfriend and I have been together for six months we are. My boyfriend and I are. This emails from tourist in my own. Oh my God. Okay sort of Eastern Police Carl this. It's story to do it. She might not. Our, this emails from a tourist in my own world, and the title is issues in the bedroom. My boyfriend and I have been together for six months. We were having problems in the bedroom. He has had problems in the past. Where girl has told him not to climax so when we were in the moment I said. It's okay if you can't. I didn't know that bothered him until three weeks later when he told me that's why he's been acting distant. He said he knows I said it coming from the best place, but he mentally didn't respond well, but now he says he doesn't want to have sex right now. He's distant. I'm so worried. He's unhappy with me. My anxiety and depression are through the roof, even with all the individual therapy I do Mike. How can I more understand why he doesn't want to have sex with me? Gina had no went to let go and when to keep holding on. That's. A bummer because. I just wish I could maybe communicate about it And I think if. You know I would just try to sit him down and have a conversation with them. In just talk about like how made a feel and because there's nothing worse than having conversations about sex and not performing in the bedroom i. mean that's what took Mike and I like a few months off of our. pattern. I guess you can say because when you have anxiety, it's and then you talk about it, and there's performance. Issues in the bedroom is just going to get worse. so I think maybe just have one final last conversation than don't bring it up again and see if it gets better, and just kind of go from there, but I would I would beat. The horse. Twelve, twelve-year-old Janna. How? Mike, how can I understand more what? So yet Janus Point. This is hard because for men. It becomes like a mental thing. and. You know when John I have had issues in the past. It does become desist. Mental Handicap. Where you start out having Zaidi When it got closer to bedtime. Because of. Just. My I fear of being intimate or Performance issues or Not being not whatever it was It's a long time since I've dealt with that, but it. It just takes time of just comfort in for you. It was finally Intel. Janna realized that. The more, she harped on me about it a more she. You know pressured me about it. Didn't help. That had pushed me farther away. Yeah so once Janna was just like didn't have these expectations and just. was like okay like let's just lay in bed like we. We don't even after like. Bring up sex you know Yorker takes sex off the table for. A period of time a couple of weeks couple days a month whatever? And then allow him to get more comfortable. You know going through the day with you so leading up to bedtime, there's no pressure. so it's tough. You know it's a sensitive thing for guys. Have From the wind podcast instagram question for the podcast would love some outside advice. My husband's parents are verbally mentally abusive. And His dad threatened me last spring because they feel taking their son away from them. Since him and I have started standing up to them, my husband decided he wanted to cut them off out of their life after he threatened me, so we haven't talked to them in months. The issue now is that I am eight weeks pregnant and my husband's really struggling with. With knowing his parents won't be involved in his life, and it's making him very sad, and I don't know how to support him. I told him previously if he ever felt, he wanted to change his mind about cutting them out. As long as we are safe, I would support him. Whatever he decided that being said I now have to think about a kid and their safety and I do not trust his parents to be a part of their life. How would you handle this? How and why issue I just think the he says because she said because They had threatened and they felt like you know he was. She was taking him away from the family. Because they started staying it because the sun was being like. You can't talk to my wife that. Your family well look I've yes, but I also think. Some families are just very. Especially when the son like Lord knows what I'll be with my son, I mean granted. Not to threaten someone like that so severe like that's not okay at all At all, and honestly you know as I'm reading as I was reading it I was just starting to think like I got really protective as a momma bear, and I'm like no way. That kid is going to be around. The grandparents but at the same time. If. That's like your parents. It sets such a hard situation I would probably say like. If they start to show any sign of remorse or empathy or say, they're sorry than maybe I would let them have like a visitation, not alone with the baby, but like with your husband and the baby and you there too, and if you don't want to be there to make sure husband like is. Absolutely by the baby. Because I totally get them. You wanting them to have a relationship, too, but if they're threatening you like you don't want any part of that, and that's not going to be healthy for any situation in you also don't want. That's not good. No and I mean unless she is. You Know Bat Shit and like really just a bad influence on him or something that we don't know about. Parents threaten. Them in like. The fact that they're together and having a kid. From me. Even if it was my parents, If. They acted that way. I'll be like Fu. In the only way you're going to see your grandkids is if they do what you're saying, we're over a period of time. They show remorse. They show empathy and sincerity with them being sorry in the way they were, and maybe they can warm having some time, but I'd have no issue. Cutting out. My parents have I had to if they were acting that way none. But, that's just me. No I mean same anything to protect Kosonen a day. It's I can handle any threat whatever it sucks and it's but when it comes to my kids like I'm GonNa? Mama, bear, the crop failure in innate note, nobody comes near me near me or my kids that are going to be like that. try read one mortar or anything we're done. I like this handyman email. Unless you found good diem. A bunch DM's like how you're handing like managing anxiety. Right now. During works in wine. And a lot of deep breaths and quiet time. read the Handyman one buddy. This one's from Jamie. My handyman I wanted to follow up with you about asking questions when my husband is a project, my husband is not as handy as Mike I think. So I do ask a lot of questions, I'm totally judging ll. Also when he does project criticized how he does things because it's not how I would do it, or it's not how I envision it. How do I go about this? First I all Jamie. I appreciate your honesty. Second. So what I tell Gina. If say going into a project. He's like I want to do this. And you start to have these feelings around it or expectations. Sit Down and talk ahead of time like pay. Do you WanNa? Talk out like what you're playing with it in I'm not trying to control the situation. I just don't want to be unfair to you where you do it and I ask questions, and then I'm critical of how you do it I'm just I just want to understand? So like with the patio, thing or the show you know the board and. The board I forgot with the patio thing that built. If Jonah the going into her, she's like uh, so, what do you think you're going to do for this? Outta talk through it up back. Okay? I'm a border with two by fours. I'm going to you soil on flat ground on rocks. And she could have any questions then. And it wouldn't be as. It wouldn't come across as critical. After because it was before did the project. If it's after I, did something. The only way that I can receive that. Is that. Is is as criticism. Because in my mind, the only reason you're asking a question is because you're critical, or you're questioning it or you don't like it if you ask questions ahead of time, and then y'all both on the same plane for the expectations of what it's going to be what it's GonNa, look like and how it's going to function. then. That doesn't have to be all these questions. Passiveness and criticism and Honestly it's it's frustrating, and it's emasculating, and it sucks, and so if it's something Jamie that the handiwork isn't in your round like we talked about last episode. You know. It, it sucks to get criticized on something or feel criticized on something that the other person doesn't even do. So armee. Yeah, no, I agree that sure. 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The Darkest Timeline with Natalie Alvarado

Forked Up: A Thug Kitchen Podcast

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The Darkest Timeline with Natalie Alvarado

"The following program is brought to you by your friends at podcast one. You know, I am keeping one of my New Year's resolutions. I always thought of reading more books, but I'm not reading I am listening. So it's. Lucien loophole. Tell me that that's not reading what did you say? I listened to a book now. All right, then you sound like a fool. You're listening to your your audiobooks. Well, I use penguin. Random House audio I have to walk our foster dog in the morning and the evenings. I'm out there. Flicking our perfect pop on an audio book, easy, if he's going I've read chapters, what do you what do, you know? Yeah. And penguin Random House audio produces audiobooks that ranged from stuff how to inspire and listen to classic novels to the latest bestsellers, let me recommend the dreamers by Karen Thompson Walker that is the hottest new book of the year. They have it on penguin. Random House audio your wanna go listen to it. 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Welcome to another episode of forked up your go-to podcast for all things kittens caravels and Kamala Harris, I'm Michelle Davis cheating, though. You didn't do alliterate Kerr moles is with c. Yeah. I could've said knives. Know, just technically. Daniel lane and I met Holloway today. We're gonna be talking about Valentine's candy that we love to hate the Pringles earn and we talk doc staff. We talk about some upcoming food trends that we're just going to annoy us, and that's going to be a fun rant. So we're joined by model Natalie Alvarado to talk creepy DM's, Phil Collins and being pretty for Fe. Stay tuned jobs about to get four. Sharpen those knives. Its fourth up a Doug kitchen podcast. What's up audience? What's up and show? Nothing. Just wanted to live. Everybody know that we're working through some midwinter Sadd's or at the TK orders, raw, right? We're just busy with work. We're getting bogged down. Yeah. And after a lot of you guys are doing the same thing where you're just like the Christmas fluff. Not so Cutini more, really cold. All my favorite socks have holes in them. I should just sleep forever. We hear you. We see you. We feel you and spring is coming springs Gomer. Yeah. Sooner than probably either of us would like, but no, we're fine. We're power and through I don't want. I don't want people to worry about us. Other people out there other fine. Beautiful Americans are at the zenith of their sadness for the year. Go the show tones of those poor photo employees. I mean fucking for now. I gotta be honest with you. I got real tired of covering that fucking thing yoga. The real tragedy a real tragedy. Y'all got tired of hearing about it every week? I got tired of fucking covering it. So God that that's over. Do you think I saw funny tweet I pardon me for not knowing who tweeted this out? But they're like, oh, the there might be another shutdown, you know, February fifteenth and somebody's like, oh, so that'll start you know, on the issue. You know, sorta midnight on Valentine's Day, which means Trump could fuck the whole country at once. So again, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to joke. I don't remember who it was. But not mine, but I at credit to the internet. Yeah. That was dope. Was fuck. And I really liked it. Do you have any thoughts about the ending the shutdown last week? I'm I'm sure by the time this eras at will other news was just did it to distract from his homeboy Roger stone getting fucking or is at the same day. Yeah. I did it. Then it works, and he's already forgotten about it. I mean, if he's good at anything, it is, you know, controlling the narrative, and that's exactly what he did. I think if that hadn't happened it would have well he needed a win. But it wasn't really when it was more like just like a stalemate got up there and got to give his little stump speech for like Walzer effective. I think he's just really wanted to do the state of the union. I he was just like do on the shutdowns over with so downs over let me talk forget any of that. Like, let's just get the man that Taylor. I would go fund me just to fuck in just fix the Thai tie jacket was longer than many dresses. I wear like it was too fucking much. I like to win. He win visits the troops anywhere. Like that a died like being beg looking jacket. So you know, what I'm talking about? It looked pretty ridiculous. It's a, you know dressing. I don't mean to be so putty. He's Betty these are things he would say, I don't feel that. But if you're like. A man who brags about how much money you have. I would at least not like to feel your poverty in your clothing. Do. It doesn't make sense. Well, it doesn't make me trust. Are you going to shit on a gold toilet for look like you've got your fucking sue at the goodwill? I don't understand homeboy Newsham Indochino and say what you want about Milania, at least, you could tell she cares about how she looks like I don't agree with her outfit choices, but she planned that shit, and it was delivered enter closed fucking fit not him could until one more thing about his little speech. He gave in that rose garden because he didn't gonna talk about and serve as we're just fascinating. But when even he was like, you know, he'll legal immigrants will show up where you least expect them. And I was like like your fucking bedroom. Your house like your hotel staff, bro. What are you? Why are you in saying it like that? So. Sometimes they go north of the border. And but all everything he is talking about is like the only place imigrants can enter this country through the south. That's the only country by the fucker. Who's going to explain it to them on his staff, man? He's going to do anything for Milania for Valentine's Day. I can't wait. Because wasn't it one year? He just said happy Valentine's Day on FOX through her. Like was his gift like he was being interviewed before they cut him off us like, oh, yeah. I should like say. Yeah. It's like, I do remember the office when Pam and ROY where together, and and Pam all day was deliver like dealing with all the deliveries from everybody else in the office. Phillips, giant teddy bear everyone's getting all these flowers skins you see everyone else. Just like, I'm waiting, you know, he's downstairs, you could just bring me a present waiting all day. And at the end, she goes like, I really wish you would have done something for found Taisei. He's like, oh, you have got your present yet, and she kind of lit up, and then he was like the sexy your life, and it's just like. Gross. First of all that tells me that your phone in it in all the time. So fuck you number one spent no money and that was Trump saying. She probably prefers it that way. She's probably just just opened up the account for me at Tiffany says what she wants, right? Let me go pick something. That's what she signed onto the sinking ship. Let me go down to Florida. Yeah. By myself. Per day. But you know, this is beautifully into the news. We are talking about a Valentine's specific food. It is that chalky little heart that you get every year. Yeah. This is all the cutesy shit on it. Yeah. Remember, you said like get the little boxes, and you could write like on the back. It said to blank from blanket mine elementary school, and you could give it to people. Yeah. Back when probably you're allowed to give candy. I bet you're not allowed to give. I don't know. Can you get candy? I think there's the school. So you can't bring anything and then the schools that you and I went to whereas the fucking wild west gave each other razor blades. Balloons. It's condoms. It's just all fucked up. But this Valentine's Day those hearts are going to be real hard to come by the little Truckee hearts. That's right. The New England confectionery company or neck. Oh, I never knew what that stood for until just now that's the company that makes those little hearts, and they had one job making those little hearts, and they fucked it up. Yeah. But I mean tech sort of their fault sort of their fault so neck, oh had a hell of a two thousand eighteen they shut down in July after investment firm. Bought it from bankruptcy auction or thought they wanted to Walter. They were holding out for candy wall didn't work out. Candy land. It's all you can just get invaded. The Neka was subsequently bought by the Spangler candy company in September. But by then it was apparently too late to restart the production line and just. Yeah. In time because they make eight billion every year. That's disgusting. Well, it's a lot of little chalky hearts out. If you think about it. They're they're small. Yeah. But it's still it's still fucked on. So you know, I've been seeing some treats the people like, oh, well, they're still in my stores. I still see them. That means I was production is probably left over from the original company. Yeah. So it's from before July twenty eighteen so. That being said, they're probably the most iconic. Oh, yeah. For sure Valentine's Day, candy or sentence sentiment. Other than like those chocolate on the heart shaped boxes of chocolate, bro. Yeah. So this year, the Valentine's Day, if you get that then that means that those little hearts from July of last year or you buying an off brand which shame on you either way support Nikko, they would bake robe and support them getting these dollar store brand chalk hearts getting these whole Pepsi today. See looking thing what was your worst Valentine's Day like in like elementary school or school? You had to real awkward one. Valentines days. I like intentionally shit on it because it's it. There's no winning. Yeah. I I would put that question back on you. And be like what it was the one Valentine's Day that you were like nothing will ever live up to that. Because I feel like there's that pressure ever year like you get bombarded with the commercials about fucking jewelry, my expectations, very low on Valentine's Day. And yet they somehow always that's what I'm saying. Book Valentine's Day that let me tell you about a really bad one expectations too high. They'll never be met. I was sixteen believe I was sixteen and I had a little boyfriend at the time a little boyfriend. Well, he he he was cute. He he was he was as manly as they can in high school, and he was like I'm going to take you out to dinner, and I'm going to get your present. I was like, I think. I think I've made him like cookie is like maintenance something and he knew I like, licorice. So he gave me a bag of twizzlers now because no, I'm a red vines person. If you fucking give me twizzlers, the success, spitting in my mouth. It was disgusting. And I'm gonna fucking outrageous. You might as well just cheated on was like, oh God it's over with kids strike one. Okay. And then we're going out to dinner, and again, I don't come from money. Nobody might sound on any money that being said he took me to subway because he had a coupon. You're just subway for Valentine's buy one get one free were they running like a did you get a free cookie? Now, we got a free sandwich my sandwich. So he went to subway, I got a free sandwich. And then we went to the movie theater where he worked. So we saw the movie for free. And I appreciate his frugality. Did he walk you in the front door de sneaking out that's one of those guys? Who would oh you mean at the movie theater? No he worked there. You got wasn't. He was like, oh, hey, guys. I'm just here at work in the Iran to the back door. Cool. No, he was one of those guys when I didn't know better that would pull to my house in Hong were. Ooh. So you're Ober arrived still to this day. Fuck you, Brandon? That's pretty low expectation. Yeah. It's good. I had a girl break up with me day after Valentine's there why? Well, she was fucking this other guy. So that's a little bit on there. Conflict of interest there. Brenton teepee my house because I wouldn't have sex with him. You know, you go. Yeah. So then I teed has house in the middle of the day. Because if you come for me better fucking miss I don't give a fuck. I sat there on the lawn with his mother. Yeah. Like, your your son's apprenticeship this is happening. Yeah. Give me one of those that I mentioned he was two years older than. So that was he was eighteen you were sixteen. Fuck you are Kelly. Not me not me. Na fucking stuff to me. Fuck you. So in some rain, Valentine's stress, it's Chaki. But that'd be fun. I like the little candy hearts because you can play like the magnetic frigerator like words. Do you have the hearts of the say means shit on them? They funny to me. Because he ought to like selfish because you have no heart. Antisocial but jokes on her because when she's used on me, and she ended up dating that guy and he ended up cheating on her years later. That's what happens and they weren't gauged. So guys don't fuck around karma's pets don't shit on people don't participate in cheating. That's all. I got to see this thing is he knew I was like, dude. What the fuck? Yeah. When we were kids, I let it slide a long time ago. But that was that was the worst February fifteenth. He said, he let it slide. He brought out his list of grievances. Just now. In the booth scrunching names. See the paper shit. Well, I I want to talk about an American hero real quick. Okay. Yeah. This is old news. But I thought it was worth mentioned when I came across this hot fact incur. Okay. So the Pringles inventor made an iconic last move of his life. Okay. He was done. He's dead RIP spoiler. So he designed the Pringles potato crisp packaging system and the little crispy potatoes. He was so proud of his accomplishment that he requested that a portion of his ashes buried in one of the conic cans word were does. He was it just was it a special one or was it like off the assembly line. I think either one run for that, man. We're there Pringles in there with the he's like, I'm visa. This show tons of questions project buyer of Cincinnati died in two thousand eight of the age of eighty nine and since we didn't have a podcast, then we're bringing this up right now. Still news to me. Yes. So Bowers children's honored his request bury him and one of the cans by placing part of his cremated remains in a Pringles container in his grave shut up to the family for being like, that's what he wanted. Yeah. We're going to do it. Yeah. He requested that burial arrangement. Because he was so proud of his design of the Pringles container, which you damn well should have been conic conic. I so he worked as a chemist and food storage technician, who specialize in research and development and quality control for Proctor and gamble. Yeah. And he filed for the patent for the tubular Pringles container and method of packaging the curve. Stuck chips and nineteen sixty six Goodman. Good fuck and man. So an American hero. When out like, a boss, and that's all that's what you like to see though, if somebody who's proud of the work that they've done there. So fucking proud of it. Even there like this was my one mission in life and in the afterlife. It will go with me. It's just put me in the carryanne. Yeah. Let me in the ground. Yeah. I'm going with Pringles. I just think it was I learned my heart than even in death. He's like, you know. I'd Meyer the family for the family could have been like, oh, he was like not well towards the end. It was saying some crazy shit. He was like average probably in a fucking Pringles. Tuck did they could've dismiss it as like dementia. I just thought it was so lovely even though it's a little more bad. I just thought it was so lovely that. He's like I did this, and I would love to be known for it. And I have no shame in my game. That is a man who faced his mortality head on. Yeah. Like a bus. So. To to you a drink Bauer. Is there? Anything fun you'd like to be buried in. Well, just as a weird thing that we'd like struggle with. Yeah. I don't think that I wanted to I read about how terrible embalming is for the environment. And that we actually don't even need tune bomb. Well, yeah, I mean, who who do you think we are as I mean come on? They didn't even bomb. I don't ask. Why know so much about death and like? I've had some weird wormholes arms. Like, oh, don't you? Oh, don't use warm halls when we're talking about burials. Thank you know. You've heard about the green burials, right? They just put a tree over you. Oh, yeah. And they reputa- cotton like shroud, and whatever, and they just put you in the earth, and that sounds dope to me because then just headstone. Well, then you compared to the tree, and that's cool. Tell and people can come and visit the tree. Yeah. Or demolish it depending on who owns the land. And frankly, I mean, that's my one real chance of getting revenge at swirls. Oh, yeah. It's become the tree. What you've been that? It was squirrels. They've taken a lot of things that I love including fruits and vegetables. That's true. We have a lot of. In the garden at the office, the squirrels and the raccoons get before I get that's frustrating. I would love to be part of the tree. And then just like, I'm just gonna shake this fucking limb. And they're not going to see it. Come and they're gonna fucking fall. Dr cure in your book the afterlife. Yeah. So don't wrong meal where another I'll probably like scatter mec- or something something that's like I don't want to be wasteful. There's no reason for like fucking big lebowski Achio forgers can just blow into my mouth go down to go down to Leo Korea. What about us is if you thought about I just then green burial? Yeah. I think that's the best option tree. I like a good live oak a good, California oak tree nothing wrong with that California girl. Give me one of those northern California Star Wars force trees, put one in three hundred year old sons a bitches right on top. I think you'd have to find a lot of ghosts. But speaking of not being able to tell the future speaking death pinchers just released what it thinks the big food trends are going to be this year. And I wanted to read through them with you to get some hot takes. Okay. I'm fired up. Let's fucking do this. And you know, I think we have some authority to speak on this. We have a little bit of authority. Yeah. So every from how takes y'all number one Pinterest thinks is going to be a big food trend for twenty nineteen stupid homemade jam bene- trend. That's what I said what grandma's been doing that since I was a kid. But I also I feel like effort, squirrel. Really, you know, they started the Browns yet squirrel here in Los Angeles started with a homemade ten years ago and blew up from there. And then you don't have the restaurant and all these other things. So I really feel like homemade jam has been on the Instagram radar for quite a while or these orders number one. I don't think they're in an order. I what. Number two, mushrooms, those are divisive. But this was like powdered mushroom coffee drinks, those are popular. Jared dot surprisingly good as much as I should on new products, especially mushrooms can taste a little dirty. Yeah. What would chocolate and coffee the mushroom coffee was fucking dope. It doesn't taste like mushrooms. Like, you would know any fucking thing was in there, and then like exotic mushrooms, and I so I agree with that one. Yeah. So homemade jams mushrooms. Grazing tables crazing to was a grazing. Imagine the catering at like, a Roman Buchan all and how that table would look just fill to the fucking brim with food, and like, it's all laid all over the place aren't necessarily on trays looks really indulgent. So it's like a still life. Yes. Exactly with rates and charcuterie and cheeses. And then in Baroja were the tongs these mother fuckers at the party are washing their hands. I'll say bathroom I wash hands. Great. I mean, nothing says that we're living in a dying empire like the popularity of fucking grazing table. Like, I don't know. What else to say? It's like we're going down with fucking Pompeii. We're looking at sort of the dome full of other civilizations. And we're just checking boxes at this. Tokens? They're going to be a super hot item for the summer. Suddenly like everyone's just going to be like having orgies. Oh, this is the last box. The new head of the FDA Niro and she says so grazing tables. Also, I just think that's a thing that only people will do like Instagram influence or parties. Oh, totally normal. People aren't doing that your office parties not doing fucking grazing tack it out here. And it's just it's wasteful. And like you said, it's fucking disgusting. Boy in like. I've never heard of that. Yeah. Like get the fuck out of here. Yeah. Number four bread baking. I been a trend bene- trend gonna stay at Trent going to stay true. The bread baking bug actually bit your we are we are moving into bread right now. Because you're better than me. But I think thank you. Wouldn't it comes the food stuff? You tend to be the superior of the two of us. And thank God. I am the cook. Yeah. We've been we've been fucking around with bread last Las. We got while cultivated Sourdot you just dope for caution. I sure did. Thank you for the shutout as a bread baking done Benetton gonna stay at trench term. Yeah. Number five ginger infused water. No stupid. Agreed also infused like what? I thought that was like a ninety thing that we were putting like the MIO MIO syrup droplets in mean was. I mean that was a couple of flavor on now people are like sticking like, cucumbers, cucumbers and asparagus. Ginger trying to replace a turmeric. Yeah. Stupid also boring also just taken anti inflammatory. You're not getting a medical dose. But also like how interesting could it look? It's a great a Brown root sitting in a look at a water. That's stupid just call it spicy water. Yeah. Ginger infused water the fuck out of here. Oxtail recipes noth thoughts moving on. Oh, that's the next one. Fucking fine arts though, the docks. Never seven. I agree. Yeah. That's a trend. It's trendy because it's actually fucking good. And even people who don't like, non dairy milk. Fucking goat milk is the best non dairy. Alternate doesn't flavor and it is the creamy s without being linked because that is the only coconut like has. No discernible flavor coconut is very pleasant and we'll drown out other flavors, including something as bold as like coffee, whereas oatmeal is very is the only kind of milk alternative that I've been able to drink straight. Yeah. But that you you're just not aware that it's made of other things. So good on you. Yes. Number eight Choko. What is it is a kind of squash? It looks like spelled Chioti. Yeah. It's C H A Y O T site. We have in the south. But so it looks like if you cover your teeth. With your lips mouth guy by everybody at home. Your. You're going to think we're stupid. And then you're going to see it at a fucking market. You went oh. Look, should I just. I just don't really know how that could be a trend because once you chop it up, you it just looks like a squash. So like soon. I mean, no more than a regular squash. So imagine that's like readily accessible comes through anywhere. A lot in a lot of places so questionable in that Boyle dinners, for we will pack dinner like when you throw everything in a pouch and throw it in the oven, a campfire, it's called silver, turtle. Yeah. Fuck is a four-pack. What is their rebranding? It. It's I think it's just the new Mason jar. It's like, oh my God. Do poor people. This is where the pores are doing is. They throw a bunch of vegetables into foil, and then just roast the shit out of it. He know the new way to store food near your cool whip container. Everybody is doing. Fuck you guys flip back dinners are fine. And delicious loves and potatoes. And all that shit and the campfire cold, silver turtles, good, sure. That's that's not a trend. What I've been doing this since I was a kid. Yeah. Exactly. I did that in the fuck in camp the boy scout thing through rude last. But not least the peak in diet pigan pagan. Yeah, I think guitar, Ian, and vegan was now. It's paleo vegan. So Mark Hyman who we had on talked a little bit about this. And he kind of advocated for it. But basically, it's that we're going to have one trendy diet to rule them. All I think that's the top tier paleo and vegan. P gins I it's like peaking at kids. I don't fucking know. This imagine them all coming together. Somehow the and we're going to circle back to just dinner. But it's gonna be so more on the story Pinterest is a stupid platform that we don't like to use. And the people just student or podcasts here's the shit that were upset about. And we don't like it. And they barely know what they're talking about. Man. I tried to I tried to get us like if y'all follow us on Pinterest. Don't be mad at me. I don't know how to use that God damn platform. We try to get his sister to do it for us for a while Heather ran for a little bit. Then she had a kid. You know on our priorities. Got changed. Yeah. So fish. Shout out. 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She do yourself right and visit amendment location to day keep out of reach of children for use by dolts twenty one years of age and older. Welcome back to fort up the kitchen podcast. All right. So please help us. Welcome Natalie other. How are you? Your first podcast ever on guys. So. So I got to tell you you look like a smoke show audience. Can't see sorry everybody win like this book Prentice tiger tiger. Yeah. Yeah. Jacket on. All your jewelry and the makeup full. I just if it's a first impression, I'm one of nice. You know, you guys the important one. Most is trying to paint a picture. Came ready camera. Yeah. Thank you. We were invited to like do an interview we thought it wasn't going to be like for miss supposed to it was it was supposed to be like a reporter with like their notepad. Right. And then we get we get to the news station and they lights fucking off. Straight up like my hair, and even in a bun thing that you just do we are loan. I could quick will. Looking at our handler to be like to be like, they're not gonna fill me. They're not going and they're just setting up lights and cameras. Then they gave a same had. They gave us vegetables in the night off my fucking jacket. You what I was wearing? He's not the hotel. Shit would happen onions, Matt. I can't do onions sweatpants or what? Yeah. I was dressed sloppy television. Your Hello everybody. This is this is me, actually. Very on brand. Unfortunately. Following you fucking forever field. And even though we've tried to beat up a couple times. Yes, hasn't worked out, and it's bonkers to me that you never actually met. And you guys are all here prefers apart meeting. It makes it better though. Right. Yeah. We're exciting audience is gonna get we're gonna exchange stories that no one's hurt yet. All right. But to ease them into you like how did you first get into modeling? Let's see. So I was actually living in the bay area at the time 'cause you're from socal right? Yeah. From my live like an hour away from Los Angeles. So I was living up north with an x and who amongst us. Haven't lived with an accurate I had to do it. So I was working in like a financial benefits group in downtown Oakland. And I was probably fucking on the computer. Yeah. I just can't sit in an office. So I think I was like forever twenty one and I saw these plus size models. Like, hey, I'm not that badly. I pretty much sent my my images down to a couple agencies, and then I signed with Ellie models. That's crazy. And you're with me. Which guys if you know anything about mom, that's literally. All those all those Instagram thoughts that everybody follows that their bio. Students will. Not an appeal. And now you're in on your Instagram. Like, you pop all these campaigns all the time. And then because I think we follow you that I get like targeted ads as my face. Sponsored. That's what we're doing. I guess it's just you have you ever seen like a girl sponsor her her her own? Okay. Can we talk about this? Because I for the audience to I've never done that by the. Understanding what we're talking about. It's when you're on your Instagram account, and you see somebody doing a sponsor post of their private. Instagram's you still feel person. They have anything. There's no music. There's no fucking TV show. Yeah. It's just like I'll be scrolling through my feed me and. Chicken and bikini. And I'm pretty proud of my time. Like, I don't follow. Like, you know what I mean? And I'm like who the fuck is. And I look, and it's sponsored view profile. Now, click on it like a eightieth. And then it's just like a normal. Mercy. When you hear for spot insult like, but they'll have like ten thousand followers, though, post a photo. They'll get a couple thousand likes be three comments. All suits. I. This grow came up in my feet that I actually follow. But then it was her own sponsor posts, and I'm like doing. This five minutes ago. And I think they get you cause I've scrolled the sponsor your own post for five dollars. Yeah. They're thinking five dollars. Yeah. Yeah. Sponsoring ridiculous content. Just like pickle on the sidewalk. That is excellent. It'd be the new Egge. Could you imagine that sentence meaning every anything six weeks ago you nineteen? Nineteen. Currently all sidewalk egg. Like Trump's America's what he wanted. Yeah. This is the time one hundred percent on the board. We have resources. I'll make it has to be pickled. Oh, okay. Pickle. We're not. The little cocktail pickles. Like, I'm talking like in the bag in the bag pickle could be spicy. They have all those fleet lovers. Lovers like four the road pickle. On the ground. Do you hate? So. I told the story about when I made the pickled pick them on on this pod. Like, I did what? So back in the day. I babysat like everybody and eight other pickles. 'cause that's. Fucking shit, and I had hours to go. And so I build the pickle brine in a Dixie Cup, and I'm gonna make a fucking pops eat shit. It's going to be like eating fucking. You're not the same. I also have a pickle story. Yes. Spending the night at my friend's house all on AOL today. The dial up and everything and so it's pick Ryan the Jews. Yes. So we were all for some reason having grape juice, and I just had a brilliant idea because I just saw the jar of pickle Ryan. Yes. Want to refill? Yes. So I wouldn't like stupid. My trust in fucking anything. Like just a little bit of the grave just to change. Grits spoiled. And then he just like projectile, and I was dying. I meant that about like very rarely in adult life. Do you get together with all your girlfriends and just fucking troll each other? So did as your kid. It was fun. Guys are the same way to right. We grow out of. Yeah. But you don't have sleepovers anymore. Hey, we have some modern day sleeping pass out over and over. Out of Passover shrinking. Come over for blackout part of the. Darling. Because even been modeling while I wanted to know how you think the industry's change from. When you started to him Instagram was not a thing when I yeah. Like, it's nothing when we started our book. Really? Yes. So is just kind of like you actually get booked if they like your photos on their website that your profile woman has linked to your Grammy. Cow anti following list. Sing cruise like decreasing followers, by the way. I don't know. I'm like, whatever. I don't care. What do I go to post a half nipple? It's not happening areola going to get the fuck out areola ten thousand volts. But like change so much. So it's like, I mean, it's given a lot a lot of opportunity for girls that are were probably a little bit shorter and have a huge following with a blog or something like that. So that's really amazing that it's given that opportunity. So that's really I feel like a big change. Yeah. That you can kind of get into it in a more grassroots certain lines wanna see that too. Like, I remember when to target casting like years ago, and they wanted to know how many followers we had do target me. Brew. Yeah. Like, you're not a little Tiki. Don't need the followers. Why do you need? Yeah. And also, are you going to tag me in post can meet? I would love if carpet tag doesn't. Crazies is it is weird that they based what they're going to pay you off of like your sense of worth and that can be purchased. We've talked about it in our pod before like. Yeah. I don't understand like when we have meeting soon people like what you're following a loyal. Totally and you proud of it too. Because like I haven't purchased Vollers. You just makes you I mean, I don't care if they're dropping off the face of the earth. You know, by them. So. I'm getting real people about. Most time we'd actually have some sort of like program that you can see if they've purchased like serum like girls are going to get out. But you're here sponsoring pickle fine. Five three percent of your traffic comes out of Russia. Interesting do over there. Speaking of your Instagram the way, you use your Instagram account is different. I think than the way a lot of people in internet are in entertainment, and fashion. Do it's not super personal. But you find this way to really let your personality be forward without over sharing too much of your life in a way. Thank you. And I think it's really because we follow a lot of models and different people like that who somehow give me more details of their life. But show me way, less of their personality. You know what I mean? And I feel like you're striking really hard palates to achieve and you're doing lawlessly. What is your? Helps with your fear. I have no I I feel like I just I kinda stopped carrying the stories like number one Snapchat Instagram trying to all use the Snapchat for the stupid shit. Be more professional. I can't do both. Yeah. So I just feel like I don't I just not that serious. I've not just like, you know, I'm just making a duck face. Hear the duck. You've made that noise. Someone's like. Yeah. Yes. Just a little apart. Little bit of. Really? That's how you mono, right? Yeah. I'm willing would just have you unpleasant member? Yeah. I think it's really interesting because you post, you know, a lot of professional photos in the profile within your stores. I feel like I'm like, check checkout. If you want while Natalie check out the storm's professional neck. I just want to have. I don't care if I look stupid. You know what I mean? Like, I think it's just kind of fun. Will you know, look stupid super fucking? She does this thing guys that she just like a super zoom on her nose. And you pulling your Cody really tell you on your head. Why do that? It's like, I'm like in my Harding, double chin or Mike at ju just like this like, I tell you. So I really do. I like feeling like I'm a little butthole. Yeah. Because that's what you look like. Okay. Now, we were just like big bud holes. Think about that. I promise you. It's very comforting get baked. And since the fucking hoodie. Yeah. Like to your head. We have a sleepover with our hoodies. We gotta block. But I think it's really refreshing because often people in the beauty and modeling industry and rightly should take them seriously. But they present themselves in this way that it's just kind of unattainable personality. No fucking way. True. And you're so beautiful and flawless skin and. You're looking at home. I try to be like Taft fun. And then I also want to be little real. I've been open about like, you know, it was married and divorced. You know, like, let's just be people like real talk about like a mental health awareness, which is really refreshing because I feel like again in the modeling fashion beauty world. You don't hear that conversation as much I know needs to be talked about more. So yeah, appreciate oh. To be girl on the internet, especially a woman, posting beautiful photos of herself. Like, I can only forgetting imagine gets the comments and the DM getting. Those guys wanna go through. Some interest L this per like. Photo. I just put up recently. They're like more armpit, please, bro. Are we racing? What is? Listen, if you want more armpit you need to sign up for the wild, Natalie patriarch. Armpits armpit all the time. Another photo pixel lately. Arp block it out. Sorry, sweetie. Sorry, sweet little something. But like you got to pay for that. Funny. I wouldn't think armpit of all things it's bizarre. Couple of my other friends have gotten armpit things on like y'all or to you guys. Yes. Like we were saying if you Google famous actresses, namely, the first auto complete is like feet. So we're just like really not only is it just a handful of dudes needs a whole lot of people if it's auto completing. Do you think that it's a spectrum of guys that are into some of them, very sexual of them? They just like looking at or they like the ugly feet sometimes make women feel bad. Yeah. They're like, oh, she's not that odd you ever seen her elbow. Are they going to? Are they going to? I won't go to bat for Kim Kardashian, very often. But when he was super pregnant and she handles shoes yet and her feet willing, and no one was more miserable than her. We did not need to give her a hard time about that. She just wanted to be out. Me no shade to her. And then all these people were zoomed in on her feet. Make fun of because the reality is like when she put her foot in that. Probably just looked at it. She's like it doesn't look like. My skin's protruding. Yeah. Stand you stand. Booking? It was like the beginning of the Plato play place your six routing, the plano, just spilling. No shade. No, no, she's pregnant fuck like do your thing girl. But like, why would you wanna wear your life? Dudes being critical without or like, they fucking quotes totally so gross. So it's I don't I mean terrorist. Speak on behalf of the guys are fucking animals. How did you come up with the super knows zoom is your cute little nose piercing? Actually, it must have started. Like, I feel like I remember I had like some like acne on my chin like still want to be filming. Wanna Hudson should here? So I think one of that. And then I just thought it looked funny. One of my. Stories, and you don't have all your mind. Right up on your nose like fucking. Says something stupid is never stupid. It's always delightful. Very, you know, people just need to use like find me annoying. There's the mute feature. I love it or and follow. I like when people announced their on following because if we following in the common section is a party, and there's this like one person. Walk out the door. Just keep talking about it. And like I have when people do that I've gone back on their profile. Couple of days later, actually, followed us. We're not busy. We don't have shit. I am bored and petty. I'll go on their profile say follow back. So they have fun. So they announced they're following. But they haven't no fall alpha can block them. No, you don't deserve. Book your block. A willpower. Like, you're just saying that you're gonna unfo-. And then you don't like let me help you reach your goals. Your dreams of lock you love to talk shit online. I can at least, you know, with us. It's the brand it's not like us person. I mean, sometimes civically like when you jump in. And you're like what the fuck do most people, look huge. Huge phone, and you're like, no, you're being a dick like you're just using your favorite emoji to send back when someone's being a dick is either the kissy things or the sleepy one with the Z's. Like, oh my God. How reginal you? Shrill. Block them. That's utilized that more. Inspired me. We just we don't suffer fucking fools follow. While do you favor. Being in front of the camera as much as you are. Because it's I mean, you all the fucking time. I swear to God like anytime. We're like, okay. Can you come do this like do you want to come to this food thing that we're doing you're like, I'm in Cincinnati? I'm in New York. I was like I, but every time I see your Instagram. You're fucking in LA. So I know I know I'm so glad today worked out. I'm like, you know what I'm booking out. Yeah. Tuck. But like how how do you keep like your skin routine and do all this skin is not great really there's make up on here. Like, I struggle with it. It's like I'll let me any red blooded American does like like, my undertones or paint. I don't know what it is like the whitest half Mexican girl. I know. But it's like, yeah. No, the skin. So I'll see these girls show up like in, you know, they're working all the time, and they show up with no no makeup on and they're flawless. I'm like, I'm just pissed. Like, I just I just my skin so sensitive. It's just blog she read, and you know, but I would always rather here skin advice and skin cared by from somebody who works for. It was like oh, go bar, so and just just depar- of Duff, soap and moisture. Go to shoals facials is doing it monthly an actually just did. Like, it's called a gesture appeal over Christmas. Oh, your channel. Cheerful karaoke appeal your urine hibernation. Yeah. I'm like over Christmas like at my parents house on the couch and Mike hope y'all having fun. I'll be over here peeling. Any errands like looking like a fucking corpse. I actually did. And I'm like care cares. This is some light leprosy's peeling Angeles. Everyone peels so stupid yearly shedding skin. Very in. You guys will in five years from now you'll say Natalie. Yeah, she was out in about. I had my first facial because I didn't grow up with that kinda shit at all. Good. Yeah. Like two years ago three years ago and St. of your fucking joking. All of a sudden, you're glowing. Have you lasted for a couple of days? But days I was just like he is everyone looked at me. If you see this. Exactly twenty. I am a jerk. I am looking for it. Constant kind. Of course, you do to y'all gonna hate me. 'cause I have no scheme, of course. And like is as it the same, dude. Who's let me see more armpit covered acne. Exactly. Like a yellow tooth? Little smuggler. For guys like that that the aging just a fucking train where we'll just like to slowly gracefully, and that's all I want. And then that these I don't use this. I don't wish rice, and they're looking fucking awesome. Awesome fifty five hits and that you're like fucking eighty like a glove. It's like the old guy from high school where you know, the hot guys you've been sleeping outside for like. I think if if I had a kid a boy or girl, and they went to high school and they became a popular kid. I would beat it out of them. Fucking nerd. Something kids are you know? And they're all just like pimple down again gained few LB's nothing wrong down. But like Govan. God when people are like hold up like what is like a twenty pounds. And I'm working. Between five inbound only give twenty five. You're like me. It's usually, okay. Sometimes get tend I'm like, Michelle. I guess we should take some action. Now, did you have fun eating was that a good time for you? He's been bad for me like eight really well. But it's it's agreement. I want a little bit of that a little bit three plates. I call it to me treats because I have to earn stuff Brady deserve this. I deserve these five beers. I've had a weird week. Twelve. Yeah. Exactly. And then they'll be running on the treadmill? Too many treats treats I liked that treat and yeah exams go, and we got our guest. You do it every fucking day. Also, I don't earn. My treats looking I've had a pile of laundry on my floor. This no becoming dirty laundry. Oh, yeah. And gotta do it. All right boyfriends rolling over lake into my place, and he's like girl. Get your listen. I'm doing what's important. I'm paying Bill. Let me slack on this one meaningless area live life get to it. I don't really says Ennerdale or not living with a chair in your house full of laundry. Clean order. Are you really living? Do you really pay bills there? My little laundry dirty clothes been. Yeah. Is like has step. Then it also has the little pile on top of it. Yeah. Genes that can get a couple of days out of them. I'm sorry. But if you wash your jeans every single use, we are not friends. Every single time. And mean, ladies. Get real. We can lie to the dudes what we can't lie. We know how often we watch that. And frequently is what it is. I'm sorry about it. All right. We're bigness. Have something for the tickets to hold. The over the shoulder. Bolthole those guys it's not a mixed. You never that. That is a warm up tongue-twister say that. Practicing before the part. We are so mad that you finally hang out. And so if people wanna follow you where do they follow you can follow me on Instagram? Now rod, oh, I don't really use anything. Tweet every once in a. Catch me on the ground. And like I said we've been pulling on Instagram for so long. And then when I was like googling stuff about you. Dewinter girl. Google it was a role. You had a Twitter. It was like I'll stick to the groom good idea. I appreciate that. Do you have any campaigns coming up at your minded about or that you could talk about? Let's see my a lot of stuff for Riyan as line. Oh, the seventy s a lot of fun. It's been awhile since I've shot for them. 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Captain America: Streets of Poison & US Agent Part 6

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Captain America: Streets of Poison & US Agent Part 6

"This episode, keep some lunatic sidekicks brought to you by tweet Datia. Get Awesome headphones did creeped audio dot com and use coupon code South Heath get thirty percent offeree skipping in a lifetime warranty working get there through the link on our website Southgate Media Group DOT com. Peric and your lesson go vacation. Take. sidekicks. PODCAST. Hello everyone. Back by Lilith demand more captain. America that's another comic, capers. This is going to be a big one folks. Lowest Hell fought part one move hellfire and I will cover captain America's streets poison from Captain America three, seventy, two to three, seventy eight. and. Then, part to. You hear myself and Charlie Esser covered the backup stories from those issues the US agent backup from Captain America, three to three and the whole issues of Captain America three, eighty, five, eighty, six. Yes I'm a Masochist Anyway Ville. As I said part one joining me is. L.. Fire whatever nerve. Friday night. So prerequisite. arrived. Over you like nerds. -tations my. Fellow dirt. Anyway yes. Not Video on fire city on Ice Patalei. Elliot's city on Ice. Vanilla is. Vanilla is what? Is what I'd like to have a word with you. Queen will work with them. So I guess raw. Oh, that's right. Right yes. This this was the big summer event from nineteen ninety. Oh my God, the Bi Weekly. Biweekly. South Dakota. Anyway yes. Heart one captain America three, seventy two, correspond my favorite cap writer Mark Grunwald. Hey. Ron. Lim. Art that. You enjoy the engine. Course. I don't know what a story store I. It's fun. It's an offense defense. But yes. I'll forgive it. Captain. America going for ride on his new Guy Cycle. Going to see. Going, to see his main squeeze diamondbacks as how Mike. Official per state last issue. Everything about is is such crazy. But Hey look there's a creeper checking her out from the next roof. It's boom slang in the serpent society. Serpents. Not. least is not on a plane. That would have been more entertaining. It's just and. This isn't good surveillance. He's listening to music when you want it. Like. The farscape. Away Classic Captain America Somersault Mike Careful. Not to follow your heads. You Know Oh? Yeah. Flipping down the street light yet at the. Magic Mike. Dowse. Yuccas. Can America off. But then runs down the alleyway. Should. Ask the should ask the Wayne's how that turns out. Your city. Because captain printing up a bunch of. Supposed to be teenagers, but they look pretty old. At all teenagers in media do. Unless you're nor me. Of. Course. And of course, they have codenames tone deaf and. They talk, chill. Chill, the mother classic white made writing. Young Urban. You gotTa love it and again. I mean I see other other characters but they don't recognize Captain America. To. Only. ps As you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Put Cap. Cap starts taking them down. Then, after he dropped kicks the one in the face, he's like. If I have time after drop kicks the one in the face he's like anyone else avoid the emergency room down on the ground than they do. The cops show up then a half hour later caps like boom sayings fifty fifty. One of the kids. Around. Thank you. See some. Caps no longer in the mood. So he goes back to a headquarters. Were security chief Michael O'Brien says, Hey, I think there's something wrong Fabian. Think he's lost a ton of weight and he. Sure. It doesn't work like sure recaps like it was like Oh my Lord looks like he dropped thirty pounds in like. In a few weeks like like, what are you working on like this? What the bugging device a brain debugging the masters of evil planning. Bio Bug in my brain can hear everything I. Think. At these that's math. And then he's like wait you're not cap. On the other side, you're an impostor. And then top sight couples. If he actually literally only part is here one way in the one day, he wanted to try something new. But he's like, Fabian we don't test for drugs buds. He's like there's so much. There's so much pressure around living up to the vendors standards. When they'd after working three days straight a friend of mine offered me ahead. I felt. I felt saloon. A choice year headed that like at a wrong. Not Like The kid backs us what again it's nineteen ninety was like were coke and meth like more prevalent than these days. Or is it cold? They weren't. Because the government put it in black neighbors I. Lot We could have done with this story. Brave enough it's fine but then one hit last me the whole. Arsenal. ONC- AIDS NOT Well. One. One hit lasts me a whole day and I. About drugs. I know. What is it? You're using ice something like crack but gasping lasted a lot longer. Remember kids credit. Spoiler alert, bathgate? Someone who lives in Florida? Remember kids crack kills. don't kick. Mallya benders please. Like you're not really an adventure just like. Yeah like combat. As the CAP psych, we don't allow drug use and you know we'll get uh getting really ability in program. The vendors are role models. We can't have people using illegal substances but cap what about the Super Soldier Serum Joe. Your powers to a drug. Sarah. Walker, that's all you know the the messed up to saceur formula. It's the forties didn't know better. They made me some smoke like a whole pack before I went in. There Hitler's supposedly did methamphetamine. Fair. That's that's the propaganda anywhere. So, all caps scoring Fabian out the I will see to suspicious characters at the scene of the shooting I? Guess. Looking to see if the cops found something. And mysterious woman we see who but I'm assuming it's diamondback shows up. It's like right down the street from apartment and whoever has long hair. But. Then back offenders headquarters captain America's still thinking what baby said about super soldiers here hypocrite head but. Again. It was the forties come on. I, wonder if the Super Soldier formula was the runner of the steroid compound, I? Mean they didn't really feel it on the. Nazis. Probably had method. That's. Stay. But then maze as thinking you know I'm supposed to America's staunchest protectors by only having entrust the drug problem. Like and the way toward almost exploded into my backyard before took notice better late than never got to do something about the drug problem starting right now as he's doing his research computer. Awesome. Very hard traveling heroes discovering things. Get. Better. But then meanwhile, somewhere upstate. We see a man in. A hospital gown, he gets no bed. He gets a US, a Matt's into the. Is clearly not worth toilets there. But everything everything's like one piece. There's no knobs or faucets the toilet has laid. into. Jail hit diverted By though I mean this guy is this guy can use who is this guy who can use anything as a weapon? He's allowed no hard food. His first daily Mush is dispensed through a recess figured in dope all that his bolted to the floor his. Territory out saying not the king chain. That's subjects twice a month he shot with a tranquilizer dart and pick an unconscious for sponge bath in a medical exam and they're making money on the Internet with that. Like a fourth date for loath. Check those boys. De. scrubby. Hail. Within this guy bashes his face in the into the wall. So he's bleeding that guards come in but then he he he loosened this too. So he could the he uses it to I guess blind the one guard grabs his gun shoots. The other one could you imagine lays? On their tooth. This man can use anything. He is bull run. I'll dare. A. So yeah. So He's has the other guard by components like. Losing to die but freshman escort me out of here. Is Tooth missing talk and funding now. but then back in a vendors headquarters caps asking. Fabian. Where'd you get your drugs from? Goes by the street name kid gloves, but that's tough name. Hangs out near the train stop on Continental Avenue Continental Avenue in Queens. Ama's drug-dealing. Pump up, the jam. I Eight ninety. Nine the. Up. So. Yes later. Crappy Oliver Queen by the way. The skies. Captain. America. I don't you say, let's like crappy Oliver Queen. Exit goes up the kid gloves these like baby and sent me know your your friend. Trat Niche captain we're pulls a gun on cap and Cap. Twist, the gun dies like I hurt replacing kneecaps is quite painful. and. I. Love. Kid gloves like who are you? An Arc Catholic? No worse Oh. My God you're the punisher. Cap I'm thought that. Okay good yeah. I'm not bad and my job hey, scares the kid gloves. There that's the guy. Get my stuff from Moose. Meat. Moose meat. They didn't research very well. So yeah. So cap keep Mr Gloves. It worst along Moose meat. So yes. So Capcom gets the end gets him through the back of the van. It's Jason Driving. The daddy was right. These guys are menaces. Alright. So by a Moose needs the only kid gloves, you fingered me now it's the punisher man what? Phrasing Honi. So, yes. So can't makes him this Moose meet the same offer you get your supply so Then they get the Lower Manhattan. Cap Jumps out. Takes off his guy who does count that American the Punisher John. Jameson. Guess we're working together now. A cap breaks. That cat breaks in the warehouse. Only one kid there he's like. He's like he's like my name Napalm on account I knew this trick but I can only do it once. They switch. Gosh turn. Into three, three, seventy, three. Twenty Jameson. Sees them warehouse blown up he calls look Peggy Carter. When in doubt? At this point the offenders communication officer she looking. which vendor can I call? Well she's really ordered this point. Sure. Fear to we don't talk about this is before this before she went to the May spa man she's I think she's Pretty order to. Allow it but okay. So yes. Well, she's wall. She's looking. For Vendor send out and. Blackwood is the closest so She also calls diamondback. Hey, you're gonNA clam. Calls diamondback your man was an explosion. diamondback shows talking to John Jameson. He's basically telling her what they were doing then captures. That's why I brought A. Bullseye. Cap shows up alive and leaves a big kiss on diamondback. Space like Whoa, he's never that forward so Brushes with that. Do that to some people. That in crack. But? James and says, how'd you get out and he's like the hard way because? He saw the explosion comment he leaps out the window, but didn't quite make it the shock wave him through the next roof that's where he woke up. So joins like you wanted to paramedics check your not necessarily I feel that I've never felt better in my life. I do this. Hour was yeah. Like the flashback panels. Yeah. Yeah. Early like how they integrated. Covering, his head. Yeah. So the other they're leaving and. Drawn. Sound capulet those dealers go without. Clinging to a building with a big spider on her back. But meanwhile, we see the prison escapee gets to the kingpin's. Office. Praise basically threatening his secretary again in the. Toe Kingpin comes on says released her at once. So this man comes in and says, you know I, WanNa be your you know your your biggest asset again he's like. Is Like we're going to do for, you can with get rid of that ridiculous looking woman skulking in the shadows. WHO'S TYPHOID MARY But I'll tell you something Mr Fisk. Your taste in women is really coming to the talks. He is rude this this Mr Poindexter. Isn't it obvious wanted to be your number. I WANNA be your number one boy again. WHOA WHOA. Man My talents to do various I. Want you to get some dental work presentable closed and we'll talk. Walks out. Type what would you do with him off something? Back into headquarters caps taking a shower. That now, guys look at that job. But they once they keep working on this drug thing savings been accepted to rehab. But what's this? Building. Later. On one hundred, sixty, four what the FISK building. Yes. After, another attack. Oh. Yes. After another attack on a drug then yes, we see poindexter returned in his costumed identity of a bullseye. But kingpin tells them. He wants them to investigate someone's blowing up his crack houses and. Harlow. If I let that hinder in the air for you is. Cheap real estate. One. Nine Four. Thanks to bill. Clinton. But you know that's another story for another day. George H.W. No actually when he got outta office, he moved his offices to have. Real estate prices down. But yeah, they oh, the cops found drugs in some of these places, but the drugs weren't kingpins. Oh. My Lord giving it pulls out who I. GotTa keep your layers in the drug game. You know Yacky. Stay away from everything the money and the dope yet. Class with. Nine. WHO LIKE COLUMBA? Now I don't know my Lord and then he's walking out of the building and he's just like. Fatman must be trying to bust my chops with this if he doesn't ten dicks on the payroll. I'm here for. Dick. Not Ten That's too much. That's definitely a facet. and. Then Oh, he's being watched by black widow. Grade Widow, but it sure will. I know that that's that's that's Suda. Painted on. The cat woman suit Hashtag fighting. Like The eighties and nineties. The Brown reclusives this point. Also. Then we see captain diamond back to sticking out the scene of the explosion. Sky Psychologist Killing Me Morales Oh yeah. Because Yeah John James and calls in he sees a movement in there. So you can pixel skies cycle and then just like diamondback takeover. So like what you're show me how to drive this thing. Here. Wait a second. BLANKIE Yuccas. See this jump jump off the cycle wind. Blown. Up. Building. In a bunker. And then Yet down back trying to figure out how? Wrong with. The diamondbacks trying to figure out how to fly this thing when the black widow shows up this is captain America's vehicle what have you done with him? So of course like While snake, BITE Spider snake by it. So yes. Cap Goes in the building and. There's bullseye sneaking around and within diamondback are fighting some war and. We're about to crash into the river pretty tight for two chicks. Nineteen, ninety I'm just saying Yeoman Until they crashed into the river, but then this issue ends with A. Bullseyes is just win shovels and flashlights a captain America. Back to cat fight. So yes. Captain America Three Seventy Four. Cover. That is a nice cover. So. Yeah. Bullseyes blind and cap at the flashlight. Then he hits them in the hits in the with a shovel back right where he just happenstance where he was shot in the leg captain America three sixty two. Right. Out. Cool. So yes. Oh. Because I love. Isis throwing stuff he's like man by skin the trump that overgrown hubcap. Go. Lot. Surgically attached. To somebody shovels and stuff at you man I want to shield. He's doing the classic tunnel to. But then you. Go. To the movies when he like jumps tonight lows. But then back in the Hudson River yet diamondback gets the surface. Hey, the sky cycle pops up takes off. The black widow come up here. What Would always always somewhere swindon. Worker black widow things like in Bonn off a Bolter Badgen. By Japanese alive large bodies of water at the. Let's spice. Harvest espionage trope anything. Yes. But then back to the capitals I look about what? That that's a nice part and shot. See, and you said, you don't like Captain America issues. That things a solidly focused on him. Obviously. True. But See. Out here in a poor man's will read. Oh. Yeah. I know with a three. Three blades or something between his fingers. To Pick A. That would be ridiculous. Knows something making noise against that Uh Shield? To caps like, okay. Cut just gotTa deal with the pain from my leg and then he he's figured out who this is. So he charges a music. All right, Bullseye that's an. Like. Oh. But then he sees coming back coming back. So He Jumps out the window. Oh. My Lord it's the ninety. So of course, he also has Ataman families phones. that a poor man's move marine. So. Yeah. Cap Jumps on this Guy Cycle. He's like why why is this thing went smelling algae and she's like well one you didn't tell me how to fly this thing to the black widow jump aboard and made us both crash. So she's like, what's he doing on? For you. Got Me by this should have been a whole couples like. So he bulls eye gets away and then who's the drive by shooting? Look the one who hot wires, the Cars Cau- wire get it. What are these? What are these transformers jobs come on? Hot Wheels understand I guess his trademark and the guys who were and the two are gonNA. Shoot the guns called Potshot and rub out. Got Your the phrasing button. To. Rubber. Well. Did you see that black that diamond actual? Exactly. Kingpins all mad. Killing his killing his crack dealers. It rented one ingredient pop up everybody's hundred, that money and. Then, he's all mad. He hasn't heard from Bullseye Eye. And then capped I'm back John James and get back to vendors, headquarters and capsules a pig. Nation is Individuals a if a personal mission. Yes. Heels Peggy for CONAN and black widow. and. Then later, get done back talking to John Jameson saying there's something wrong with them like you're talking to be talking about back but you're out here. John's walking around he's gives her his card. My private line. I bet. So then John Comes back and. Talking about the drug problem and. Call Supply and demand Bola. You guys can't do question me if you weren't with me than the double meaning. What I don't get is that. So he was founded in nineteen, seventy, three in nineteen ninety and actually had some been cases in the news of our call, right? I. Don't know why we kind of need that caption I know I'm being picky but. I mean again maybe like I. was twelve year old at this at this point maybe there's like some of these kids might not know what the amy's member back back in this point, we're still trying to at least some list fought some their audience was kids. Africa I don't sign. So I'm such a jaded millennial. A, look at this foreshadowing. Kingpin said devil caps. Devil. All that tear something coming kids. So, then diamondback goes home and changes into her new outfit. Undercover costs. I. Mean Basically, just like different colors jacket and. So Right now so hard. It's not even funny. It's not even funny. Only buccaneers Bolero I'm sorry to break. Get get back out on the streets laurel. Author in this day. Than we see. Bulls eye I guess interrogating people in an arcade. I mean, just let the kids have their fun. Out Manhattan. US daredevil just recently packing Manhattan after his whole big trip upstate. After an furnace. Will Lead fled. And he's. Asking to give him a certain talking to you his. We'll we'll get and he getting counter with cap and daredevil two three. Couples acting. As always. And guess what it was on. All right. So. Then we see cap again, he's talking about that little episode with daredevil upstate. Cancun back to the vendors maybe I can stay with Sam Wilson for a while NASA and you keep saying a lot of this nobody's like I bet busy corner got the him too. So, let me see the drug deal going down some guy limousine. So see look how awesome is that a man he just like threw the shield in that front tire. Crashes, that Limousine American Swiss army knife it's. It's the job done basically threatened the guy and walks away. Or, car jacked to do that to the car. And the issue ends with. CANARIES AL favor I know I know Oh, that's awesome. That's your profile picture. A. But yeah. Then it issue ends with. John James Comes diamondback Tabuchi works at. It could be a flower shop because that's a little too on the nose. It's fine. So, yes, they're leaving and they're talking about cap until. They get caught in another drive by diamondback trips Johnson. He does he doesn't get shocked she gets shot in the back. To Get it. battlesites somebody. Else. Shortly usher. Of this episode. then. Yes. So cap through seventy-five, the devil you know. Diamond get Sean. The. Back again. But who? I mean. Job Either. Well, he's in the middle nervous breakdown. Always hey just. Reveal for the ninety your time. No, it was after. Os. After typhoid Mary mess with an he had. He had a literal encounter with though. Thank you. That'll do it only goes over there. Can Catholic boy he's face to face the paceman with this style come on. Cap Go. In Deir El not happy about it. Covers like ridiculous but I love it. I think this is the best cover out of this particular. It is pretty good I like this one in the last one we add. Poor dining that well, she's alive 'cause join Jameson Zych no blood. But I guess who's weren't Kevlar but he's like she she didn't know she was going. I don't he's like she didn't know she wasn't going to get take one in the back of the head or something he's. Like. Point is convenient of John Thought he was attracted to her before. I say my life. but then thirty blocks uptown cap is. For Info in the rhythm room. Yet, that's coded language at August. Room. Not Method Baier's looking for a certain. Is the rhythm. Don't you what parents here? Looking for Jerry Wedeman also known as CHIRC weed. Out, the. So which one dancing as you head. Calls them chicken here she ticky performed. Like crazy. Until. Until jerk. We'd grab some holding a kid hostage in a cousin, the drop, his shield, where do you want me to drop this? CAPS. Behind you and he's like whips it between their heads. Trick ooh. Scum I hate it. When something is threatened to hear me say crabs jerk Weeden didn't jump out the window. Onto this. Guy. Cycle. And again. Hornell School Batman, take some high up above the city holds. One arm. My arm is getting tired. Don't drop me any particular reason anything you say that is a good reason. Okay. Hey. Okay captain. Some. We see more drug dealers. Hey, chucky was we theft or what? Cracker Jack's. Yeah. Think we. What happens will wipe people have access to MTV. Past certain age demographic. At me on the HIP Lingo I watched the MTV. Don't don't make. Of GRUNWALD, it's not even around the defend themselves anymore. All right I'll let it slide. But then they get taken up by looks like a bomb throwing bottles at them, glass bottles, and Garbage Camden. Matches. Malone I. mashes. ooh I. Just. Makes the guy get in the car? I care about the money man who hires the management you're going to. What you're GONNA do is make like a canary all see they saw the black to black and everything. They were doing always knows what it's doing. But the next night in little Italy were to kingpin typhoid Mary are having dinner. Captures. Rude. dictator. He just walks in. The bodyguards trump up security boys give me an excuse. I mean the election here behind president because the president declared a war on. Of you he's high on. Ice Willis. Now about process on Hannah Captaincy apparently the last night I went to sit down with kingpin sale grabs. One of the bodyguards just throws him to the floor guys like I dislocated my shoulder. So yeah caps asking kingpin about the whole drug war and he's like assuming illegitimate assuming legitimate businessman is myself knew what you're talking about. What makes you think this is some sort of intermural squabble doesn't want an occur to you that it's turf war with outsiders encroaching. Cap Who these outsiders be again assuming I knew what you were talking about. Why would I tell you? I. Love It. Asking for. If we should learn the identity of said parties I'm being dead to. Somalia idea. The kingpin of crime you favor doesn't sit well. Only then Tyson. Oh. Yeah. After cap leaves daredevil slowing down headcount longtime, we'll see. See, John James and diamond back. Then we see Bullseye meeting with this finding one of these drug guys. Here's what here's what you're here for after another mention of able to eighty three. TAP. daredevil gets in caps phase CAP. WHOA. Yeah. Then manage to hit him. He breaks his wrist see at least to start fighting in a playground but like I said. Government isn't something what? You know the movie. This isn't a lecture. And they're not kids they're going yeah. Yeah. Lord but look. Fight sequin. Mattress. Close quarters that that's what epic Basle gives it like the gritty feel to it. Intercity. Fight Yeah. Matt uses his Billy Club to get rid of the shield. Whoops it away capsule paranoid say thinks Oh it's the commission again isn't it? Mer remember last couple website's. Member remember no Good lower. WanNa. Eat He mentioned the underworld the trip them fishes realm. So. Yeah. So yeah, there one invest shape so yet. Cap takes him out and. Leave them on the ground where he gets found by. Crossbones. Out Now. You don't like not Mr Ninety. Ninety. Venom and crossbones come on. I mean I like Venom. Another neck and say. Yeah. So that picks up in three seventy six. Seventy X ONE Looks to me like I'm. A heck of a three one, I'm just saying. Why How the? Very first. Hey make sure you've read the last issue in GonNa be lost the. Crossbones like what do we have here? He doesn't even recognize daredevil. He's like what's Has Four Double Dog Death Thunder. Danger. Dude. The best part of the issue. Like God just waste treated an injured man don't make a nice guy. But he is a week at crossbones. Under mask, he's like I. Don't know who he is. That, the Justice. League. Where LEX LUTHER Bear flashes he's like I don't know who the. Handsome ancient worked you in the April playgirl I'd be required reading playgirl crossbones. Don't. Sexually spectrum. That's true. So yeah cross-benches takes he's got a job to do because he He goes back to that Italian restaurant kingpin was at and he tries to take out tries to kill the kingpin. Manages. Take out some bodyguards but a twin kingpin diving behind a table typhoid it Mary. Say No cats is awfully band looking at whether that scraggly. Beard Oh Yeah because after daredevil comes in. Bloodshot and big. Actually because. Yeah, daredevil comes back in. King crossbones keeping. Yet caps go nuts in it alleyway. Favorite, learn in the whole arc, my star spangled simple unlike. Actually, agreeing with. Because he's hallucinating the red skull. I'm Captain America. There's nothing wrong with me a sleep. That's all I. Really need haven't slept in days almost a week. Or? So it's it's just the drugs and the is and something a week. Yeah. Then we see diamond back and John Jameson about both go out looking for CAP and. Black widow show. Yeah. Black Widow pay Carter filter in, and now she's going to help them hunt down cow. then. Back to the plate and little Italy crossbones takes off. Mike well the kingpins gone. Like wait a minute. Maybe the possible be mad if I bring him there but then they're devils. so crossbones, here's cops come in takes off and we see Matt on the roof top this last MEC- of him in this issue, he's like feeling so great. Again the whole. Thing, and then they show him wandering off saying I feel I I forget. Paul Him in that they're double twenty four where he eventually gets Amnesia because we all do. And pulls I takes his costume and becomes an evil daredevil until Matt guy gets his memory back and they have a fight to eighty nine is pretty weird. But awesome because they're fighting. But like bullseyes wearing his costume and he's wearing bullseyes cost you. Know the. Situation. Met, I think it was like Matt's therapy because they use like punching come on daredevil. Oh. Yeah, we we can't get into meth messed up head not at all that like that's years during nightfall journey to the descent of. The centers been many. True. But yeah. But me my blocks Wayne is limousine kingpins, faulkner typhoid Mary, and trying to figure out who's WHO's trying to kill him. Chameleon and hammerhead has see Kern she's a spider man. You may rest assured that within twelve hours, I will know who this crossbones is in who he works for. Bones get it. All, again. And you can get to. Get it. Suck. Catholic. GimMe Gimme. schoolyards. Children. But. Kingpins like, yeah, bringing. Bullseye, who was perfect for this job and type why Einhorn he's like, but he's expendable typhoid you not. ended. Sacrifices booty call. We see crossbones in the park has called Red Skull failed. What you want, meet me at the meet me at the Plaza Tomorrow at eight am will discuss penance. Henin's. I NOT GONNA cry Black widow those no. Yeah Oh. Yeah. Actually, going to get a call Capstan spotted and black diamond back trying to take cap down. There fighting are fighting until. It gets a shot and gives them a point black widow blast to the head. Shoe time and it's like what if you bring damage I know my phone I, know my weapon. Is would it make a difference? That's how far people. Captain America's knows America's head. Raising. The last page we see crossbones meet him with the skull when he's like in towards for me Madam for it but then outside look. What Bell Bullseye because next week or into a Black Chunky No second in your boneheaded boss going to be known as the Red Rug stain. Yes. Next issue. Bullseye crossbones. Blunt. Nobody. Wanted. Cap needed a break come on. C. Three seventy seven yeah, we see picks right up bullseye crashes into this. Hotel Room. Right between the eyes shoots the skull. That's Rude I. Love Cross. crossbones comes boss not anymore. Yes crossbones trying to take out bowls. He's like. Are we hypocrites all right for you to try to kill my employer but not for me to kill yours? Salmon fired back color and and. Like my pop guns ammo shelves. Oh Dang. Ida. The, big theory for awhile was crossman was like I dunno like demon with. Or something. I remember you and Charlie DECEC-. Mad they turned up nobody As you do. Oh my Lord he not notice first name is though. Brock. The Powell. So. Yeah. Crossman whips a table wine of Oak. It's his hands on Bullseye starts choking until our. Again Bullseye with them with the to think. Now. Must be running of teak buddy only have thirty. Yeah. Thirty lack now but I mean craftsman still keeps a hand on his throat until Bullseye. Stabs. Him. So. but then he stabs in the BISKUPIC CY. Oh Yeah. So getting jumps on another window. Amin. This is like legit Captain America authored time then crossbones like Oh, man boss I'm sorry I'm sorry and then he sees nope. Idiot. the red skull was just a robot. Ninety because doom was because doom was having a garage sale. Ninety man hey. Seem pretty smart now. But. Back in the vendors headquarters, we see caps like all sedated and stuff. I won't be today. The docs like him under a strong sedative because at least part of his irrational behavior stems from the fact, he's been up for at least four days straight. What about the Dragon System? I'm. We give. Lorries is waiting for him guard one. This is the worst boy. Kim. GonNa do smack him around. Exactly I thought he knows how to do. With Alfred School of. Fixing things will the doctor says you know thanks to the Super Soldier Serum I don't to. So, they'll and let them sleeve. Which panel? Where he's in the half little. Yeah. then. We see widow and diamondback shaking hands and. Equals. At enjoy making her acquaintance so Yes there's there's some sexual tension is fine. We will discuss it. Oh losses jealous. He wants to be attacked by a hot ginger skin-tight suit. Ambien at made by pigeons clears the universe and I'm just I'm just waiting. Here, Santa. Lor The the. Bullseyes all cone kingpin Sir. Oh the. King. Now the red skull nailed it. At the red, skull was now the dead skull. Quality content come for. Free. You there. Hey yes. Oh yes. Oh King tells bullseye to lay low for a while which he doesn't pages of their devil trespass, their dosa Get it well. So. Type words like You think the skulls really dead. You think pools I did it on your life on your life. Early. Eighty I know because then we see the red skull flying into in the new. York. Private plane. UNCAPPED dreaming about when he got the sears Super Soldier Serum. Yes yes it is a drug. Then irksome fresh herbs in turns into the Red Skull. So. Cap. Starts. Drawing. Tummy I'm more than A. Twenty weekly made. Pay Attention Loaf I'm more than a pumped up super soldier. I'm a man who believes in something I believe in freedom. Are. We sure I believe that everyone should be free to achieve their full potential become the best person than Kim. So, yeah. He really like rips the room apart and that's Things weren't bad enough here. Come hang him. We tried smacking him around yet built by Hank Pym drop. He's like, I'm on trunk tank I'm hallucinating I need help locate phil everyone needs help sometimes. With. Friends. Book from so. then we see the red skull visiting. His drug factories Oh. from the outside, it appears to be an ice cream factory. ICE FACTORY ICE. Cream. Fine allow it. So. Yes. There is talking about this whole thing And then Skull kills. One. Kills one of his people boss was she knocked my knowledge she was however a bad accountant. Lou. I WANNA. Cook the books for the Red Skull Man. I'm tired of this turf war I. Want to get the kingpin on the telephone for me tell my wish to negotiate face-to-face. Thick were short face here. semi see ya him and looking over caps blood work. the thing. The other way we get the metamphetamine out of his system is the total blood transfusion. That will eliminate the super soldier serum. Hymns like Yadda pens like wool maybe once we get all those blood out of his body, may we can clean it back? Dome. Sounds if the you're telling me to save Steve Rogers, we may have to kill Captain America. ME. Me Capture American nerd O but then. Kingpin and the Red Skull we're GonNa meet at your stadium the next night. And the Red Sox beat the Yankees Twenty six to two. That's how you know it's fiction. Talk about your spiting. Don't care fighting. All Boston. Honor. You're going after their yeah. Yeah. Whatever Ben Reilly Spider Man's clone these guys sweatshirt. Yeah. That's always dipper entity as a blonde via. The Cop Hawk right Recoun-. So. Yeah. So while kingpins waiting for Red Skull. CAP caps awake now because he's slept thirty six hours straight and got a total blood transfusion. Baby Beth leaving live for US Senate if. Thirty six hours. But. Yes, we cannot pay. He's getting draws because he wants to prove to himself that he he can be Captain America, even south, the serum. While I mean the drugs I'm giving him muscles I mean he still has the muscles. Pain. You know what? A day and a half and like he's GonNa lose on complete. Muscle. Seeing. Peggy's about the rat on him and the you know. The finger on the lips though. I don't like Penguins Story. Like all. Until. She's old in this stories. She's like a retired. You know they she was like with him in world. War Two. Last page will see the. The. Kingpin and Red Skull Meeting at the stadium. Interesting the we should meet. Because they met in a acts of vengeance now again. Aksu that. Interesting. We should get back. He's. Taken up, and then we see cap on its guys like old trouble. which brings us to the last issue three, seventy eight. Gun Gun. So. Captured cruising around trying to figure out. Clear. From Trying to it's been it's been like seven issues. Now, he's trying to figure out where we should go. Yes king can read Skoll. What me to buy you out now. Oh. But Yeah Red Skull once the? I believe American beat week, morally corrupt country his societal underpinnings going to eating away as my goal to speed up the process drugs is one means. Ben and he's like you kingpin American businessman has never occurred to you that you are eating this destruction. Now I am making America stronger drugs at their highest degree. Only saturates society so far corrupting the corruptible preying upon the week. We're to spend it the. an entrepreneur like cell phones gambling kingpin our proposal wager between us I wager that I am able to best union in the combat because I'm in a captain America clone body. Disappointed his whole body is. Ohio. Is it up a little bit. I mean that that skull was just a skull I mean that. The death burned is like skin off He's not going all out allegra. Good Villain should. I know the wager. Skull says, if I win my brain remain here in. New. York and you will stay out of their way if you should happen the best me. My ice operation to you at a modest price and leave the vices of this town entirely be. One. With this happened just seeing wave. One when this happened right here, right now, tricks weapons the managed surrenders or no longer flight loses. Caps hanging in the air on sky cycling's wait a minute. Lights are still on at the Yankees. Stadium to him. Let Sleep for a ball game isn't. Business captured. So yes. So kingpin. Read scholar stripping down. So they could be searched for weapons to they're going to. In their head. Clinton in their underwear. Kingpin, you're not going to remove your mask. It has no mask is my true visage, our men, the touch if they if you wish I so Chris. Kinky. But I love I- tricks him. He's like God his all our guys are surrounded minute surco gentlemen. Please back door with a fellow of the kingpins. Stature will. Require more space. Surprise, it wasn't like you know when kingpin around the stadium here hearings rooms. Quake Nanos Snack twice Oh. But yes up but. Your Mama. So big Santa's snapped place. But yeah, the red skull puts up a puts up a force shield. Way Quick question about the threaded masqueraded dollars? Yes or no? Can Do Redwood conflict. Maybe. See. How interested she is people cruise the Internet Lama. This came up a mile or 'cause red skull red, hood I just I'm you know be. Your Art here's a plan by when you get bored with it, you can send it to me. Okay. Kobe. I mean, honestly I liked the red school in kingpin thing everything else is just kinda. Yeah because. He had a device on his the he'll Ford for the saw force bubble. So the other fighting. What You looked surprisingly fit for seventy year old Nazi. As you do. Both flint when bamboo was playing against it I think you'd be in too many fortune cookies fat. A Out I know miss one fatuous after another from the skull them. Then, that of injured headquarters timing backfiring discovers caps. Gone. fights still going on stadium but crossman thinks he sees something and he does because the standards cap. Is like looks like out the challenge is looking for in spades was able to. Get the benefit of win against crossbones last time. These two are fighting. In the stands. Smack with that shield. Cross late. Then crossbones grabs the shield. Wow. Then then yeah. Can Skull fate. High. Risk Nausea. Every time I fist coming with your clammy flesh. Who wrote this Lola dating? Dating Life. Not Subtext. Anymore. Caps trying to break the stalemate in retreat that covers trips. Nice call face like trips, crossbones and just like. The boys down. You. we in grade school anymore ono grade-school dropout like yourself. No that. Cap. Yeah Cap, Bird, burn. Lord. Cul thinks he's about the fan now can prepare to fall when kingpin grabs does wish me to fall excellent and falls on the skull. That had to hurt nine ally. So. CAPS. Like. Crossbones got cut off from my shield and then. Crossbones pulls out a knife. That's annoy. Ever sharing my team tonight slices, advices and captains kicks out of his hand flies out of your hand. so Then Cross. Ben Swings and misses encapsulates the straps on the back of his mask grabs those. Judo Chop right to the throat. To Chop. Exactly. I've done. It cleaned him. I've as rougher customers any of ever tangled thought the serum proven it. Captain America. So the king. The King Pin has the skull down and he's I. Just Bury my thumbs in your eyes sockets and he's like. The amid the beat your at you when you bloated pig. Out, now now, give me one give me one good reason to kill you. Anyway you'll never get out of this dome alive without me. Good enough reason. So capture but then yes, as the Dome Goes Down the Red Skull hops on a helicopter. Dice operates penny anyway and happy to render it. I despise limiting my intellect parochial concerns I'll be in touch with the term tour settlement count on it criminal. caps like I could have thrown my she owed atom that would allow wide open for the kingpins goons. I love. Kingpin. Kingdom what happened here for reasons that Nazi cove, yours I mean the personal combat I one New York City owes Ted Gratitude? That's what I'm talking about. Pr. Baby. Spent I'll see what they make. You Blimp in the Thanksgiving Day parade. Burn Burn. So then cap returns back to headquarters and Hank Pym like we finally cleaned your blood. We can give you give it through back to you and he's like I learned something I don't need it because it's one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety now drugs are bad. Okay. Any Brat chime maintain those muscles only while he don't wait too long. So by three to four that he added discovers I guess even if you completely give him a blood transfusion, the serum like regenerates itself. Wall why I mean it's been. It's been in his bloodstream for this point fifty years. Pay Fifty years it's been soaking that soak in those cells. Like never changing the motor oil betrays making. Your goes down there buddy I shouldn't com. Alright so That is your streets of poison. What did you think level? I could have been a little more hard hitting lake. Go there enough. I mean think about all the things that I was mentioning like you know when the? When you know. They did the hard traveling heroes because and you acted America's very odd such with the Autumn Yorker he claims to defend that had the kind of always been my problem. That whole man at a time. Same thing. Superman kinda having problems with right now what mean grunwald trying to fix that I mean that's when you know throw under grew when cap got that hotline you know people could call them and. o Sino speaking of that hotline. So apparently, they're doing death in the family that animated movie and you get this a his bait to Allah. Justice Jason You. I. Know Cheers. Oh. My Lord will history repeat itself or not, and did you see there's poops in gales. I guess I. Guess It was a couple of different outcomes. I guess one they said he comes back as like a as like Red Robin. young young. himself. We'll. They've all had that identity person was dixon kingdom come than and went the Jason then added. Redeeming, car multiple notes him for it was. I know. All right. So I'm going to save all my plugs and stuff for a withdrawal yesterday. Wrap this up in part to Lilith where can people find you? What chastise me about my dislike for? Captain America. You can find me on twitter outlaw of Hellfire or on instagram. The cool kids and hip grandparent's at low comfort six, four at local fire sixty nine. PAYKEL. Right so Y-. After on the Youtube just wait NAS grow up probably one. Yes. Part to be there. But if you're listening on the podcast to sit back, relax. For this tweet Silky tunes and Mr Ciardi asser a welcome back. Party to like I said this time it's me again and you're GonNa get the Silky sultry tones Mr Charles her. Professor that's right. So. Yeah. So got A. Little bit of a grab bag here. The first ones come from a cap. Well, it's the same streets poison issues, but it's the backup stories with Battle Star US agent. Okay. So I'm going to take these all take it as they court. From the stakeout to the. Triumphant reuniting. And I guess we're even going to get to the scarecrow at the end. Yeah. Yeah. That's three three. Yeah. We'll get that. We can you want. We can wait on that too. But. There's just a lot going on here because there is just. So this is what we really. The the establishment of the new agent art. And I realize fun fact One of the later issues that we're going to read takes place. After West Coast avengers sixty nine Oh, yeah. I'm reviewing for a episode 169, sixty nine of capes and lunatics as Ber. The mistress? Hellfire. So yes. So That's interesting but as it sounds when we opened this up and again remembering that. Comic books. is taking place over several months. So it's actually like a six month time period for we the readers that it all takes place in. So it's weird how does seem to jump around a bit especially when you're reading it and in stream, but we start off with. US agent as a member in good standing with the west coast ventures. We see that the There's a mysterious figure stalking west coast avengers compound and he's waiting for someone to show. Finally he does see I rockets cycle as you travel in those days. US agent coming in. and. He confronts him ended is infect Battle Star. LONGTIME PARTNER OF John Walker. And it's interesting because they of course, get into a fight. Because you know. Not. Only just because he's You know. Because essentially he is. The US agent ever he may be. Is being very adamant with Fennel Star that he is not the person he knows John Walker. You know really it sets them off when he tells him, his parents are dead Oh. Yeah I mean I mean his his I mean we know. But yeah, supposedly yeah. Mean US agent saw after his whole thing with as cap. He's his he was he was fake assassinated by the governments they could send them up as US agent but yeah. So. He's. Do. We know this? Agent is. John Walker yeah. Because I mean, he was fake assassinated in the three fifty one that kind of look real. But then in three, fifty, four, you know I think it's general that General Hayworth calls together the Cooper and everyone's like, Oh, here's our new guy US agent and like they're like, Oh, he's wearing Steve Rogers. Old Blackhawks and then like, I, forget who would someone's like wait a minute? That's Walker Ito. But they confirm it there. Remember when Jackpot showed up. Oh it's Mary Jane. It's very Jane, not just someone who looks exactly like some executive Laker witch. Judas extent. This person who? Is actually a gentleman named Jack Daniels not. Johnnie Walker. I know yeah. They're creative Yeah Jack Daniels does not look like John Walker that much looks like him but you know the face differently. Yeah. The face is different and stuff like you said, he's like you know you can have plastic surgery or some well yeah you know but he sounds different he looks to and to the point where honesty when you're reading this, there's almost a quality where you're like. You just really want this to be John Walker. Lamar. This is. And they get into if I eventually man and that's actually a question to ask is that James Road in in the ironman costume. Tony's that's Tony Stark but this is like after armor wars have the point where he's like, you know telling everyone you know Oh that's Tony. Stark I'm a new iron man new at member. Okay so so so so Yes or if he's not supposed to. Yes. So he so he's not supposed to know certain things. It's like it's him try to pretend he's on Tony Stark yet. Okay. Yeah. That's just. Do False. Tony Stark's bodyguard. Is that what you are. His bodyguard. Yeah. I would rather it was jammed but anyway. As it plays out James ru or limits fired, and was it Hawkeye? Who Shows Up Wonderman? Wonderment. How you don't WanNa Miss Wonder Man. So ironman wonder man show up and basically Toe Marta. Okay. To step off and just is going to have a banana and So he does then I love the battle Star Mobile. Yes and I gotTa love that that we gave him a battle I guess he's like. I don't know who's in charge of the battle. But it seems to have definitely gone off radar. He's not like on assignment anyone. and. He's got his own trick doubts battle Sir Mobile So. He's still on the payroll or is he just like a free agent now? That's a good question. Well, we I think he's like unreserved Maine. Bureau duty. Not You know basically the commission doesn't have a use for him right now. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Focusing on Walker because really he was kind of jet he was he was the bucket was along for the ride and the. NEW IBM young people? We we may need a battle Sir later I don't know. Yeah they they definitely don't WanNa. Pair them up with US agent because they don't want people to know that was John Walker. Exactly. So they've got this extra. I'm assuming he may actually be getting a check you know. The is on call but no one's calling him. That's what he's got the time to go track down. John Walker in his own way. And then he calls his brother. Who I believe was Leroy I think is Leon Leon beyond Lamar Leeann Oh and. You know they. He tells them that you know eastern Ethan. therm certain. Legendary. wrote you Sir can you always change? Yeah you always looks different. Single, it wasn't that long ago he was fat. Red Hair and a mustache now he's skinny again. Black hair and blue suit and then. I can understand although the style changes dramatically to each time Is. A little weird. Though therby hat. Yeah. Yeah. I just I just wonder if like Grunwald didn't give anyone any like specific all the artists just like drew therm how they wanted because I mean this is a different or in this is mark grunwald one of my. mark Bagley one of my favorite artists I mean it's it's different than those. WHO's the guy drawn all his cap issue so I understand that but still I know I know it's a character design I know. I put mixtures, ipads on the other side. You know I take away the groceries here looks too much like he's. Infected by paradox. All kinds of stuff that it just doesn't. Really. You got to have a consistency of your character designed. You should know is this character fatter? View I know that. Over in the adventures, he he he has fluctuated lot though that was because of the mess. Oh Yeah. But. Yeah but eastern says, Oh, it's net matter national security in the markets are what is it? He's like someone's threatened me he's like wait a minute. He's in national treasure. For Lurch Cages after him. So you know and they get attacked. But as it turns out, this actually is a big deal because we get the power tools. Oh Lazy Writing Guys just like with either Hammers buzzsaw government hands. I won't call it lazy writing. It was very much in the line of. Unlimited class wrestling characters and super villains that you would just. The wrecking crew. Yes you know. But it's like you what we had like a really cheap knockoff wrecking crew. And they had like screwdrivers. and. It's sort of weird with the Hammerfest because at one point it looks like his fister hammers and then later you see that his hands he has three hands too. So yes. Know. That's a little weird but anyway so and basically Lamar better fighter handles himself with these three guys for well but. Also. You know he tells Ethan to run and he doesn't know. Hammer Hammer hands sort of. The and they take low hostage Ooh they put him in an elevator, which is actually at gas. Chamber. And they knock him out from. Then he wakes up in like the Adam. Ant PM restraints. Man. They have out of him laying around the. It's. And we find out what the whole deal is, which is well I. If we find, we meet the Red Zeppelin of course. Yeah, because someone someone's captured a bunch of unlimited class wrestler show. Yeah, they captured a the unlimited class wrestlers and you know. They make. They make the point you know when they bring it in battle stars like this guy isn't. Good malice back and he's Now, he's in a wheelchair. I don't remember when he got in a wheelchair there. There was a backup story between what we read in this. It was it was basically vagabond than. Yeah forget malice in the powerbroker broker. All. Think they tried to offer her strength. They wanted her to work for them or some allocate I. Don't think they even issues vagabond but. Yeah. They kind of tried to double cross her and she kind of double crossed them. Yeah. That's where the powerbroker over augmented and yeah malnutrition share. Yes. In a wheelchair this little. Scott. On his on his lap so Who knows what he's wearing underneath it But But yeah. That's why they captured all these guys. So they you know mouthed. And this is like man, this is a a really dark ones that gets revealed because basically the whole the argumentation process is messed up. Oh. Yeah. Is. It's destroying bodies reds up says my bones are rubber. We can do and it's amazing that it was. So easily reversible I'll be honest with you. That I think is the most shushing aspect of it once But we'll get to that. I mean I mean he he can do it, but he couldn't do it. Well, that's why they're using all these guinea pigs community before they tries it on the powerbroker member that I. What I'm talking about is at the end of it because of course. So what happens is you know Lamar has to fight Lady augmented actually works. But it works. It works it works properly he gets he gets that whole every. You know forty issues of cap with a dog mme. Remember that you still fighter seeking do this all day. So that's yet but and give them the big baggy clothes because you know. Apparently. He wasn't six six beforehand I guess you know. You know but anyway. Met Him he's for two weeks and he gets his drink bag because it's like 'cause the thing is too weak to move really wouldn't have been successful documentation at your. Which? Actually would have to be completely functional. So the argumentation really work and then you know he manages to to get out and eventually capture malice. That's how you guys to back off. And then who arrived. But Jack Daniels himself. Bureau extraordinaire. USA. Do as agent to. Big again. Overmars overmars out of the fire. It's it's exciting. It's A. Get the real wild resercher CAP, which is it's Not Cool on a lot of levels out to be honest with you I mean. Although I mean I. Mean Walker is outnumbered by all these guys are strength augmented like him though. And but he is just wiping the floor with them because he is still he is still the US agent. And is Beaten the heck out of them as then Lamar has to fight the power broker. Who is basically it's like, Oh, I have. Superhuman except he's not really because he's actually to muscle-bound move we as he has a, he's an exit skeleton actually move and Lamar wait a minute I moving this whole thing with in a tongue box saying. Yeah. You know which are we got it back in his mouth I don't even know so. But Yeah. So he he is able to knock it out and then you know. It's helped by. John Walker. When he eventually gets Baxter he gets reoriented will we because he threatens to destroy the machine because he's like oh? Yeah. The power brokers like you need this he's like I can live without my muscles That's what it was. Yeah. You know so yeah, the Linda Part Brooks. What you want, and that's when you as Asia Watson is like he wants his muscles back. Him His muscle back men were GONNA fix everybody else and then. It was like please I'm the me and then they they don't if I recall correctly. They smashed the machine interested them. because. They will bring everyone else who they augmented back normal and then there's like you know part Brooks please you know come on just do me. A US agent we'd like to, but there's been as equipment malfunctions like no, you didn't. Walker throws a shield through it. Because he sees. Would would have been nice to D- Augment Him. You know if nothing else but. Also be easier to arrest them then and I assume they are arrested after this. Or they they don't. Anyone they don't show it, but I would assume I have to hope you don't just leave him open now best behaviors you to don't go. Kidnapping a bunch of superheroes. Gods, but they do have, and then on the ride home Walker and I'm sorry Daniels. And Lamar, have a heart to heart where he basically tells them that he is Jack Daniels not but then he eventually breaks down and explains that now. Yeah I had to do this, and this is what I had to do, and my parents aren't Ted writes them every day. Yeah. He's. He's like I had to ask you there. He's like the one thing though is like, why did you say my parents did they're not the? then. He takes to the graveyard and that is the end of this off. Well, we will I he's like he's. Like they are dead. He's like he's like what he's like if they're alive where he's like in his agents like I, don't know there in witness protection Lamar's here. Let me go visit your sister and I'll ask her. Yeah, they go. You know Lamar goes to sister 'cause joins Bisbee dead yet. She tells them where the graveyards at yeah. Yep. It really is. You. Know because. They've mess with his mind man yeah. In the next star Whoa WHOA. Yeah I mean we weren't gonNA cover that. But yeah, he goes to the he goes to the general to you know who's behind the whole thing it's like you know, give me my memories back supposedly given this whole memories back. But like you said, they mess with his memory that make it seem if he asked for that but he didn't ask for his. Parents. Don't trust the government when they're re write your memories. Sites they're gonNA. Put My brain back where he found it right? Absolutely. It's sort of. With you. Yes. Goodness. Yeah. Okay. So that was that art. So what's the next door you WANNA talk about? All right the the one from three three, the scarecrow thing. Okay. What's he scarecrow does tie into that. There is this whole are messaging because we get in the previous story the. Secret origin of John. Walker that we already knew but we get a little more depth you know what his relationship with Hector and the other guy was. The. Other guy's name. Terrell. Drum in Jerome. About how it all goes goes goes badly and the the essential death of hector in Jerome. And After he, gets his mind back he. Goes. After well. So this takes place after I guess that was. Was that a west coast? avengers. Yeah, I think it was like sixty your sixty one. Yeah. Like their fight. Whenever one of the sixty nine. No sixty nine was hamburgers Hawkeye. Oh. Okay. Oh. There was one. What is because? That's the one that's sixty nine where he gets voted out member. Of them must have been an adventures or that I had done that was sixty nine, which was versus Chang. But anyway. Yeah. because. Because he's they had him fight the Legion of the unloving and supposedly yeah. Hector drew were there and he's like, Oh must be a mistake. There are some combet or something yes. Because you know. Again. Memories aren't what they used to be, and then we get what is really the darkest and. Most tragic story I think you're ever going to get comic book that Everybody we're basically once he goes to confront doctors where he was taken the doctor's like out. Yeah. I'll tell you about it and then just. Gruesome detail explains. What happened to Drummond Hector? What happened to their bodies? Is were burnt out they lost their ears they had to have wearing. You know. And they just they base it. They basically laid there in constant pain. They couldn't do anything for themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Despite being super humanly strong, they would never be able to care for themselves. Even normal life that even if they're skin did he'll there'd be horribly disfigured for the rest of their lives and then they essentially took their own lives. Oh yeah because I, think the strength was there curse they didn't have that augmented strength they probably would have died on exactly right away. A Oh and in this whole thing just honesty it's so. Johnnie Walker going through his mental gymnastics. Oh. Yeah. I just wanted to suffer, and if you felt that pain, will I guess you got that suffering that I was living with and then as it really starts to play out and he's like, but you really didn't the I didn't intend to have that happen probably didn't intend to every parents just totally man is not oh, let's be honest. Well, I know he was kind of like insane at that point. But what did you think was going to happen when you tie them to that oil tank and just you know set it on fire would he also says that he went back and pull them out? You know. Odds who else I could walk into the to bring out then you had been okay. But. Honestly it just it's. Dark I. Mean He'd literally digs up. Hector. Rene show him like you know checking the dead body. Of the dead body. You know. Yeah he's he's having a hard time adjusting to it. It is a lot more than he bargained for and. That's at once it's you know Soro in its beauty it's it's him. Dealing with the fact that yeah, he. He has. Committed this doesn't know how to make it. Right? Any like goes as wandering. His mind any comes to the scarecrow Straw man if you will. Cornfield. And, he's just like every this whole as existential crisis of faith. God supposed to come to your hour of need. So here's my me need. You'll give me something. Know give me a hallucination as like he's like supposedly speak my sister but he you know. and. You know. But it actually really down from south. To faithless to have a miracle, I'm not imagining imaginative enough to hallucinate. Oh now it's like. It just that feeling of. Loneliness and then he sees the lighter. Oh. This must be a sign from God that I should set myself on for her So that I can feel the pain which I I don't think a lighter. Is GonNa do you put an exporting oil tankers did to them exactly. Yeah, that's not gonNA work. Johnny. But okay. But of course, the writer because it was you know. was sitting in the middle of cornfields for like you know twenty years it doesn't work I was GONNA say is can be sitting there was actual. Someone pipes through I don't work. Exactly. I mean it could have been dropped their like. It was underneath tussles obviously got dropped their years ago Oh. Yeah. It wasn't like it was just dropped on something today that he was also prize it doesn't work. But then he's also is that the sign that I'm not supposed to do it. And of course as it turns, he gets, no answers. And that's what happens when you have an existential crisis because you did something or Riddick to people. And can't deal with it because you didn't think of this cost you didn't think of the consequences. Jonathan. Jonathan Walker Jack Daniels It's just kind of kind of silly but yeah so that's that. Yeah it's it's. It's kind of sad. I don't think there's any good story I don't think. All. Of the John Walker stories were getting. It is. It is so much that John Walker is just an unlikable person. Yeah and I think I don't if is trying to lake illustrate that it's like you know not everyone is Steve Rogers you know just because you the suit in the shield meaner Steve Rider. I mean I kinda feel maybe sort of that. Was the green lantern with the bowl cut guy. Garter. Guyq garnering of it? Yeah. Well. Of course you know yes, he was intended to be. The bad captain America. He got picked because the restful knew he would disgrace. Captain America. But even still he just seems like. They say he was on drugs even he's was on drugs then right? Know. So I couldn't have been in my own mind listen to me he said that and it's like. Okay you're on drugs but. What you're used now but I do like this story to just because you know it's Grunwald base and be like Oh you guys you know your your nineties Gherman Gritty superheroes. But here's what happens when you now these guys like you know. Blow people up or you know. And this is a great. Honestly is a great dose of reality that I don't think you often get in these kinds of stories especially, not especially not at this point in comics now. This was like Oh. Yeah. You know you think it's cool when he had the. It will walk away but then again it's sort of like you always assume oh well, they're super human so they would have just It people walk out of explosions all the time. Yeah. Maybe they were laid off for six months, but then they were fine. Yeah. And then just to really. Suggests that there is. And damages tuning a superhero. Really. Really powerful stuff and. Honestly, if you haven't read it highly recommend people go out there. Read it. You know you can find on the marvel unlimited that. You know you can probably find it in the long box, your local store. And these are good issues. These are very good issues area. especially this this story of John Walker because everything else John Walker it's me and it's good. It's good sub story. I still love battle. Sorry. So want more to be happening with Battle Star Yeah. But I kind of feel like battle star was like he wasn't. Because, he never really the crazy guy exactly although you could argue that his entire time with the box that was just weird. Crazy whole anti-immigrant thing. Not Make sense to me with Lamar at all I mean you could say he's better than Utah Walker. Because John, Walker in take took him how many times and how many events to get through his head. You know once once Lamar God is education he was just like, oh I mean, they never come out and say, but I kind of get that after he gets his ged and everything you know he's out he's out there working for go my God. What was I doing? Well, you know. That was also characters created by eastern from the role. Yes who is Definitely evil. There you go that. That's that's to the character is in Spiderman right now. If. It's Demon, I don't know also explains what his. Pay. The whole mustache issues a big deal for me that he has the big mustache. Yes. They want they just get rid of it. It's like. Aggressive. Yes I know you can shave a moustache. It's such dramatic choice to make for the character Ooh and then just to go off on that and speaking of mustaches. Our our. Which is actually interesting. Enough cats. I rule one in with the watchdog. Yes. Captain America three, five, three to six. Yeah. Yeah. The first one yet it's The guess, the watchdog finally made it to New York. And they're. Blowing up. It's weird because it's one of these things I guess they're finally New York, but they also seem to be really well entrenched. Got A ski lodge with reeducation-camp. It's like really here's what I'm going to say clearly, someone was funding these people because they have really fancy costumes. Well, it wasn't. It wasn't the stated in three fifty. That was the red skull funding. But you think this would be a bigger concern for them. Oh. Yeah. You when you realize Oh yeah these I mean granted maybe don't see that cultural moral crusade storyline as that long overwhelming of a threat. But then again now they're kidnapping people and the firebombing buildings and letting people die in them because it might watchmen pass out drunk and supply closet. Which? Is a whole other thing. And we do see another glorious moustache. Mike yeah because he was Steve Rogers old neighbors. Yeah. Oh he was retro. Yeah. Back in like two hundred yards issues and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like back when he lived in that apartment building, that's that's where he met. Bernie Rosenthal Yeah. Because I thought they'd mentioned that Bernie and Mike had been in college I. Guess They had been in college together but yeah. But then they were living in that apartment buildings Steve Rogers been limiting. Yeah. That was the one that was managed by the. Holocaust survivor yes or yes. Yes. I love seeing Peggy in this. Yes. Nineties Peggy. Hot Mom Peggy but. Not A. that. You now that that that we would later get now yet and. was like a super spicy was like the vendors communications officer whatever yeah. Well, you know they they they they. They, they have definitely changed the history since the movie, but that's okay. I can live with a sliding time to I. mean before you know she was yeah, she was sharing sister now she was an. Now she's great aunt. Peggy. And agreed and she was. But man and again. Talk, about, girl report. Oh yeah because yeah because yeah. Because a few issues before you Bernie cut finally, you know she's done with school now she's trying to get back in sees life, but he's dating a diamondback. And although diamondbacks kind of on the run too. So it's sort of like you know what is. That cap is like into diamondback. But at the same time, diamondback is otherwise occupied so. It's an interesting little dynamic got going on there to say the least Yeah. Because it's the serpent society put diamondback on trial because her like you're dating, captain? America. They're criminals is it against the rules to? I would. Not Have, not not have rules isn't that kind of the idea while it won't one of those issues as they have their own trout I forget one of them cycle have you know even if we're even if we were cold with that how we never you're not GonNa talk in your sleep or something. So you know then they. Can't work with. Dating. Getting fat. We can't work with you. I don't know what the real trial is here I think they were just worried that she knew too many their secrets. So I guess magic but that case. What they wanted to do that wasn't too which is what the tried killing her yet. Yes. Anyway yes that goes into the whole Modem and superior art. Yes and then we get free spirit I believe. After like four hundred but yeah. So anyway. But right now, we view with the fact that Bruce Sniffing around sees. Leaves a picture of his Kirk because again. Not Going to confront her. Sees you know maybe wants to keep the door open you know. In case opened again to it's a I mean I don't think she's acting come out and said Oh. Hey, I wanna go out with you again I think you know she basically just keeps showing up. Oh Hey, when the hang out in. Its. Strike. The problem is kept doesn't just want to be friends. Cap, is just a horn dog and if he's not he's not doing he doesn't want to be your friend well, remember too I mean they were engaged then she was just like now let's do that I'm going to college Which is fine. So you have to say it I I think he was hurt. So I think you know maybe. He I don't think Steve. Rogers. would. Admit to himself maybe he's just like feeling. Okay. Yeah. Hey Good Lookin' me I moved on. But then he should just stay you know. Of course then that gets into the whole complex of that. So where is this? alleged. This alleged girlfriend review. Of Yours of Canada you know. It doesn't work. Get paladins apartment Yeah. So anyway. But. Bernie. Bernie leaves and talks to Mike and he basically confesses the her because you know like you said the whole nightwatchman thing dying when they torch that hip hop bye record label. Am I get the feeling so he's a fireman any sending fires we asked been his. Clue that. I shouldn't be here Matt Murdock Conundrum. Fair. Defense attorney, and then he goes beats of criminals. Yeah. Technically those are two separate things he would get them off. And then beat them up just to beat them. Yeah. But I think the whole thing with Matt Murdock it's like as a lawyer He. Takes Oath uphold the law, but then he's out there spending vigilant justice. Was Super Villain or superhero or actually an anti hero from the forties called the laughing mask. Who that was essentially amount he was a prosecutor. Hewitt. Intentionally tanks the case. The guy would walk free and then he'd go kill. Those don't remember how way Durkan Grittier. Hey, oh. Hey look member when rage in San men were event reserve the vendors. Before they found it rage was thirteen and statement attended. You know I rather just have gills ask we'll. No I mean I think it was like ninety nine or something there was like a spiderman issue. Now, the wizard, the wizard gets a hold of San. Man. I. Miss My friend and he throws them in. You know magic trappings I guess someone wanted to be evil again and he's like, no, let me put your brain right again. It was the wizard, your buddy, the wizard. The wizard, he missed his friends. By guys I hung out, and so let me let me three in the red. Card machine. Yes. Well also like the fact that he basically decided to stop being a bad guy because Ben Grimm had a beer once so you know. Honestly. Think that that's not gonNA hold anyway. Will I think it was it was dad plus right before he met Ben Grimm like him in Hydra man got mixed up into this like weird creature like thing and then. You know that's A. That that messed with them he was just. So sad ma'am isn't a. Yes. Probably still has some kind of like avengers cards somewhere they can pull out of he needs to. Give them second chance. But yeah. But yeah. So that was good and you know and -rageous. whiny teenagers were supposed to. Maneuver via Santa My is like if you can do that, you know the maneuver, you should be able to do it. With your eyes closed and and to be fair, you think the actual supervision is in. Your. No trust me it's like we're lucky. You actually know what this guy's power says the next guy you're not going to know what they can do or how approaches who you have to be ready to make moves exact. And the so I'm trying to recall it. So then will Bernie Coal Steve and then Yet, he heads for Mike's apartment where the watchdogs are like looking to kill, but he's not there. Looking to get Mike because he's blabbing and as actually interesting because it's all a lot of. No one actually does anything they didn't say they were going to do you know. Mike does Blab. So the watchdogs are right. The Mike is the blabbermouth but. he doesn't call the COPS. She goes Cap Lucas. They WanNa do it more delicately and then? Basically the watch drugs kidnap Bernie 'cause they you know get out of their Yak. Classic. You know shoot them out shoot the hostage. which is we all know that was. One thing you gotta say for? For you as agent, you wouldn't care. Site well, then you don't have a hostage to you. What is an interesting take take on it it's like well Bassett. That I am justified in killing you. So why don't you let the hostages go in surrender and that way you don't get a murderer APP to. Nicer. They got a little more psychological like that. But. Anyway. But they managed to get away and. Diffuse about in cap is getting way too sweaty when he said that bomb. While he's like, you know you know when it comes to bomb-making amateurs can be you know more dangerous than guys who actually know what they're doing he's like hopefully he's got complete idiots. Just a little, weird. Oh and this was issue where we get the medical examination was as it turns out your super, soldier? Serum is completely back. The issue before I think it was the issue before. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was so that was the saddest. Yeah. Me alone talked about during streets a poison. Yeah. 'cause you know that whole thing he's just like, oh, I can meet cap without the Sierra Menendez a couple issues later it's like Oh. Yeah it's still free generating it keeps coming. Makes Sense Venus Miro what. That's what I told I mean it's been cooking in there for fifty years you know it's going to be changing that body yet. It's not. Just in the blood because he's probably gotten luxury infuses before you know. Man Loses Blood Being a superhero whatnot but yeah so. I just thought it was very said they leave that one issue with actually see there's There's demand frozen the ice. And then Jack Frost is stuck forever in the belly of bees. Yes. But they did look for him at least science. So. Anyway. But but. Yeah we see the other watchdogs think Bernie Mac to their lodger whenever. And They're gonNA ever audit when they were actually going to let her go. And then they will. He knows Mike and maybe he could be the Beta. Chapter Mike. which they didn't even need just goes up to students they managed I talked to you. Comedy of errors, comedy of errors, and then yet cap wise waiting for news is working out in the gym to work off some frustrations when US agent shows up. As you comes in and. I, mean they say that the fourth panel is where he puts the tracker on Steve I don't see that. Yeah. I. Was a little like flair on the top US agents shield. That's they meant that that's supposed to be but will they kind of show? On Steve Shorter so I don't know. Or? Or. Maybe it's the other hand. We just. Notice the running back you and. I don't know. It's a little weird but anyway. Because Kazaa? Yeah. Because he was agents like I hear you you. You know you have lied on the watchdogs. I went in cap cap even those he's like he's like he's at runs with them. They're responsible for the death as parents I don't need to be babysitting powder keg nano. As. He. Says No different. Kinder Gentler Zor. Remember this was the Bush years. The Bush. But now he's like I'm the leader of the vendors I say who goes on what mission in That's when agents like Oh they kicked me out in issue sixty nine. Catholic the Catholic did you really don't need to be here? All the one they found was interesting. This is that the president is not George. Bush that somebody named George Walton? As so if you look at the adventures, ID card. Where it's got all signatures the presidential signature is George Bush. It's. Now. So. I found that interesting just as we just because they had just previously established that yes. This was a Ronald Reagan presidency then in the new one, they just. Put it a new name I. Don't know let someone said something like the. President's anymore. Maybe maybe the whole fangs on. Our president. Reagan was maybe a little bit to settle for. Some people but anyway. So yeah. So they go to the the hunting lodge for rich Weirdos they. Defeat the bad guys they find Mike and Bernie and then might confesses does the right thing? And the US US agent breaks into in Yeah. He's going through the watchdogs name. It's like, no no no I said it will kill like infested that scarecrow style show not to go show. Clearly this guy is. Not Well, no, he's like I promise not to kill what I'll put. You guys a world of hurt. Isn't that how you got into this problem in the first. Hurt now you'll know what is your with pain? Now. Don't do that. You know. Oh, we'll use agents out here at the US agents thinking, yeah. He put the bug on Cap Shield. Exactly and you don't really see it. I know it doesn't in this panel you don't that in the panel I don't you don't see it but I mean I can kind of see. Yeah. Maybe sneak it on the shield 'cause Kaplan it made me feel it in like again to John Walker News that shield. So it's like Oh. Hey, there's a little you know. Little Bit right there. Right there. No problem. Micro technology better than its energizer. And Yeah and that's You know Nora Solution for Bernie. Mike is. Shave his mustache. And? You know and that's that's the end of that story. Anything was ongoing it but then to eventually might you know might come back right He does yes gateways all mad. He blamed like Capela ruined his life. He comes back interestingly enough as the new super patriot. Yeah Yeah. That's that's when the super soldier serum started to fail cap and he had the where that armor always around that time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, love when they brought the armor back in the final battle between Captain Old Captain America and and the superior yes and Yeah and then both those stories just ended without explanation all they ran in the secret wars secret fix Tony Stark Superior is higher mania. Them, but they brought back hope cap. So they couldn't fix cap to that. Would that would have been cool to. I guess. They. Had plans for CAP. IRONMAN. They're like Oh ben this is taken over dead just back status. I think. A Lot more fun with Superior Iron Man Probably. But what are you GONNA do? You know. Yeah. So that was these issues. Yes. and. They were. Very. Good issues. You know maybe they don't do justice here but they're very good issues. They do a lot of interesting things. A lot of introspective thought a very, very, very Achilles in this kind of stories of men and women and Gods, and monsters dealing with what's going on in their heads and what it means to be a superhero or just some dude who decides to firebomb places because he doesn't like rap music. And I gotta say the whole reeducation-camp stuff that was really creepy. Oh. Yeah. The shock collars on everybody and you know. It would just be obedient and it's like. You also get the. The SS watchdogs they're. Women Women's auxiliary. They're the ones in charge of education. which makes sense when you think about it because it's like what we want that wholesomeness, and so we'll put him in sexiest 'em gear and have them shock these people in galet obey. Because that's wholesome. People that are all about wholesome always, very, very repressed. You must've as we think. Exactly who But yet. But yeah, very good issues very you know I love I love this room this was. This was when I really got into cap for a while I was reading ventures on a regular basis in. Back in the nineties. Nineteen Ninety one I was A. I was a junior in high school. Even, drive the Comic Bookstore that sells. was. Awesome. In You never know power until you can drive the comic bookstore by yourself. and. By everyone it was great. And? Yeah. So Great. Great Story. Thanks, you bring him in onto the scares up pay no problem I mean if. I was GonNa say if you went in two weeks, we're going to be doing that US agents first mini series so I will. I will see that's unlimited. Happy to join you again. Hopefully, the guy can calm combs roll. All right. So everyone says, yeah sending your thoughts if you want more US agent in two weeks that I mini series I think it's from ninety nineteen, ninety three to four issue mini series You agent deals with a priests. So we get more introspection. email us your thoughts on all this caps off. 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Great magnet moment says the want someone alerted us to Twitter. Yes. It was completely on acknowledged. Thank you for your. Experience in broadcast because through with yell out. What it was oh. Yeah. He he he he immediately diffuse it, and it and fourteen seconds. He takes the whole thing. And then it announce. Yeah. Stephanie something and then we'd we'd haven't deflated before we got the launch that's out. That's how dear but you figured it out. So thank you. So well that was pretty great Magneti. I've couple of clips again pointed out. I had an interesting I'm I'm trying to figure out I can never forget what to do. So you guys you guys. Tell me I have situations with maids who come to my house, and it's it's it's it never quite works out. Because there's a lot of like sabotaging going on we talked about it before. I keep a I keep a nail clipper in my desk drawer on top of my desk, or whatever and ended up in the copy. It was it was gone. And it was and at some point I search all over for it. And then someone I gave up, and I just sort of got on with my life. And then six months later, I was doing that move with the leather bound pencil holder where I just capsize it and banged on it to get all the loose, whatever whatever's in there. And of course, it falls out. There's just tons of putting things and we're drawers. And doing things and weird ways away, and in just the open drawer slide, everything and it shut the drawer, and you'll be looking around for something that lives on top of the counter. But it's gone. It's always weird to me when they put away stuff. That's clearly like everyday use stuff like the keys on top of the thing or the sunglasses. Like, you don't have to tidy up the sunglasses there on top of the bureau. They're in and out all twice an everyday, right? There's no I get that you're sort of neatening things. But anyway last night, I had had had a weird this great one. So my life and about three years into this. Matt feels might pain which is I don't like the idea that I have maids in general my after fifteen years. Well, your wife makes more money than you. But my wife doesn't work. So. As she worked some. But I was gonna say this August purview. Well, I have a fulltime nanny in kids that are going to be teenagers and seven weeks who go to school fulltime, but I have a full time nanny and my wife works, but not full-time. And I think between the two of them they could probably work sweep, and that's that's my sumptious fair. That's my section, but also for all the do sayers out there. Listen all day every day, I show somewhere, and I clean like I'm not sitting around on top. Some magic thrown commanding people to do my bidding while I eat gr. Eight grapes. I go feature self crepes and yourself with Paul constantly cleaning the other shop the bridge. I'm doing the floor like I walk into the bathroom the floor sticky on Saturday. It's the other shop or the kitchen. Got the weird black Schwartz or the whatever. Whatever that's all. I did play Hazel. I yes, I do play Hazel. I also don't play city, but I do play a comedian. So I just do whatever. So it's not one of these things where it's like. Joe like, I don't have a lot of max patter. I tell people that do a lot of stuff that I don't do like the stuff. I tell people that do is stuff that I engage in. I think I would feel weird like I'll tell someone go to Home Depot. Go get the Bubba. And then come back. But yeah, you don't you don't leave the bag of almonds open. I on us don't lead an unwritten this as. Hey, so. Wow. I go to Home Depot line. I. Mugs. I do. I do dishes clean the fridge. I don't. That was that wasn't even yours. You just grabbed it, right? So okay. So walks the walk, and he talked. No. Here's what I'm saying. I don't believe I have a list of unreasonable demands for those in my my galaxy. But well, you have demand beyond what you would do yourself and do to yourself. That is true. And I'm not sure what I don't. I don't know. Then what which ones those are unreasonable? No, not no social that. You do yourself and do right. So that's my thing. But anyway, we have every two weeks, it's fine. But I can never get their scheduled down. Now. My thing is I have this thing which is a reoccurring situation. If you have a house and kids and stuff like that. You just have groups of people, you don't know kind of walking through your house doing things, and I hate I hate it. It drives me nuts. It's really it has nothing to do with the person. And it's just everything to do with. Me, and my bathrobe and my house the complication of the construction. I mean, like you're doing a sauna, and whatever like there must be like, you know, dudes just you know, there's stuff away. There's always something. But and I understand the part where you want your entry hall painted someone's painting, it they're going to do it from inside your house that that you you did. But mainly the stuff we can avoid request. I'm Brian from from your own apartment van is get a super long, depending telescoping. Roller and do it from your own apartment. But anyway lot. So there's a lot of like the come at noon, and then I come home. And then when I walk through the door, there's five vacuum cleaners going at once and everyone's running around, and I try to void that. So the other day had come early. But as it turns out, my schedule I'll screwed up, and I was home when they showed up, and I was hiding from them weird thing. It's like I wanna go jump in the pool at eight thirty in the morning, and I'm getting naked. But I don't know if they're gonna show up at the front door and look through the glass, whatever it is. So. End of the night last night. I walked up to the bedroom about twelve o'clock walked over to my side of the bed nightstand. The there's a little I would call it a little lucite bowl slash looks like an ashtray, but it's sort of clear lucite six inches around whatever it sits on the nightstand next to my bed GM, and ran it is change and stuff like that. But I so hearing high show happen. I sorta I show happen to use the orange foam earplugs. When I sleep I roll them up helps with my, hyper vigilance disorder. I walked up, and there's like six or seven sort of loosely in in there, and I walked up last night, and they'd all been removed. Now, I don't know that they were thrown away. But they could've looked like they do kind of looked like the ones they hand out at the drag races. Or when they are. They're kind of technically disposable because they do the little ones like go to car race or go. Event or go to they give it a little cardboard package of it. And then you probably don't take it home and put an lucite taste next. Muhammad, ALI'S, boxing gloves. But there were still all just there by the bedside. And then the thing that. Made me want to squeeze the trigger on the firing part all the foam one. So it's midnight and just walk up, and they're amped. They're all there's nothing there. So I go, okay. So I opened the drawer underneath it to see like the put the doors. Now, there's nothing in the jar. And then I start crouching down like looking at a little shelf onto there's like now it's not there, and then I noticed sitting on top of the nightstand. I this tendency of walking around with cherry pits when I eat a chair. I love to suck on the pit I long as I can. And sometimes I head upstairs to take a nap or go to bed or some. I'll have this cherry pit my mouth, and I'll I'll just pull it out and set it on the nightstand. So cherry pit thank you on nightstands tear, Sherri made the cut. When important all the foam earplugs were removed in gone. So I just had to lucite trayful a change. I shove Nichols in my ears, and I happily went so then I was like standing up my bedroom going. I don't know where another set of these are. But I can't now looking down on one knee. And now I'm getting angry because it's that thing where it's like what are we doing again? This was done. These are earplugs. They're in a little container. There's a real context here because the right next to the side of the bed and special jar. How could they go? If your job is to clean the jar. For example, like set him down what the job like there's one one half places. They could be the drawer could be right could be the other place. But after that, no, I don't I think they were picked out and thrown out. But the cherry stays -rageous is. Well, it's it's not outrageous. Like from a monetary standpoint. It's outrageous that these people come into your house and then. They just do this. Then you can't control it. That's the shittiest part about the whole thing. Like, you never know what they're gonna do. Or what they're at happens. We'll handle the net all time to go. Like, where's the remote for the thing? And the thing where they put my in. You just start. And you'll find it at some drawer across the room. Like, you would never tell people this all the time you could. Take these keys, and you could put them under that Matt where we stand or you could Chuck them into the Ivy as far as you could give exact same thing. It's exactly same for me. I would never find them. I never find these thing. What you I'm sitting at my desk turning the desk over looking for my nail clippers which are eighteen inches away. From me the entire time. But I would never take pencils out and take this leather bound thing and turn I would never do that. So it is the same as you taking my nail clippers from on top of my desk. Opening the sliding door and chucking it as far as you possibly can toward a hill. Covered with Ivy the fracturing same champ. I have a suggestion. Yes. Because I think we'd all rather if this if that's your only other option, I think this is a better option because I've heard this problem from a lot of people. I don't have made because. Cycling everything. So instead of the cherry pit doesn't make sense. But would you would you rather them have like a shoebox or a small box and say instead of just having something disappear or putting it in a room that it doesn't belong in? If it's something like ear buds or nail clippers. We just put it all in this bottom sort through it later, the same thought, which is if you're unclear work goes don't shove in the drawer. Whatever whatever it is. Where does this? Go drop in the bucket drop in a box, and I'll deal with it later. Good. I think the overall gestalt is I like to say, which is you guys come in vacuum mop dust, wipe do all clean the toilet cleaned the sink like do all that stuff as far as the tiding up part on the nightstand. The nights the top of the knights. Dan is sixteen inches by sixteen inches all handle that amount of territory. I'll do that heart. Don't worry about that. Don't end up on night stand by accident things are on the nightstand. Because the unit arms rage. Cranston bowl it get there. Yes. Bed woke up with it. I think concede should be knock yourself out on the toilet bowl. Because I rarely leave the things I leave in there. That's all trash. That's that's a tip bay. My. Mush of not all or one place. No whatever's in the toilet. That's fine, whatever's in the sink fair game kitchen sink, fascinating, whatever's on the kitchen floor and floor. Whatever shower, whatever dirt entry hall mop glow whatever, but the little spaces like oats, the top your desk, and you've got a few things scattered around on top of your desk or your nightstand. Rich, no flies out leaving. It'll be fine. I'll come home. I'll see my ear, my earplugs next to me. And I won't I will not be outraged or I'll see my nail clippers sitting on top of my dad's because that'll be fine. I won't go. What what goes on here? Why do I pay you good money knows? A matter of fact, the part that I don't wanna do has to do with that part behind the toilet on the bathroom floor that little sliver land that little land bridge over there that used to connect Asia to where the Europe or whatever Alaskan Russia. They'll ask in Russia. Sorry. Well, that's an exact that's an example pan Panja, maybe maybe going back for certain other land bridge either way point is preplanned tectonic. I am paying you to get in there and do that part. And then the toilet bowl that surrounds it and the sink and the shower and the kitchen floor and everything else that little bits and pieces on top of my desk. No problem. I do that every day. That's that's my that's in my perfect. They have a history of getting yelled at for that kind of stuff because why wouldn't they leave it? They've been burned to money comedians. Doug Stanhope ballistic on these scouts. I I don't know. I'm very curious. And I'm be curious. What you guys thing? Did they just it's lured? They're like, let's let's never forget the fill factor. But that's a weird onset for your blocks. So small for him. Yeah. Chewed up. Sonny's ner football today. That's a little more his earpiece. My head. Thinks like best crumbs sitting out this things six of them. They just sit there every day all day every pair. Yeah. They're like they're like Shutler like loose kind of you know, 'cause sometimes like one falls out and gets under the pillow or something you bring up a set the next day. Now, they're stray or whatever they just sort of collect. But there's like five or six I mean or going completely insane. No that really where you keep your ear, PA your plugs. Yeah. I walked up that last night, and I just walked right to and I started like fumbling around where anyway fifty fifty between. They put it somewhere weird for some reason or they just throw them away. I don't know why why they thought peach pay would be bad. I don't know why they threw them away cherry pick. I don't know why the threw it away peach pips world's best hang Dino. Yeah. You know, what I love I love Gunther. And and that manager the peach like all the the Larry NAT was not the peach pits, the older guys. I don't know. But I have a sop there's gonna be a softball team. Just tertiary by those guys they're from friends guys never talked every once in a while, they need a scene where you know. Luke Perry's gotta come clean, and you just sit there rubbing a mug the whole time with Iraq. You know, do a lot of knowing not that that would have nice fine. Anyway, under none of doing a Wicky NAT proprietor proprietor. All right. I will try to do a little deeper dive on my ear plugs. I don't know if you think they're thrown out guy grown out to look like trash to them all of them, though, defected. There's more than two makes it that much weird. Because that's clearly where you keep your bowl of your. Then you start doing this thing where like. I run in this a lot in my life. Where people go come on. There's there's a language barrier. Like, there's a cultural thing, and it's like, yeah. But that doesn't earplugs. That doesn't make you feel like people like soft bullets. Anyway. That I had a funny. Funny conversation Kimmel's office last night because. This is where all the. So I got screwed because every time I try to schedule the maids for me to void them. I can't avoid them. So you're dodging them two weeks ago. I just walked in at three in the afternoon, and they're all buzzing around. So I said to Matt I should Matt get early get them there early. And it's like they they can do between nine and nine thirty. I'm leaving at nine thirty. So just tell them that come between nine and nine thirty. And then I'll come home in the afternoon, and I won't I won't run into them, which I hate doing. And then Talia hit me with some chick from Riverdale the lead from Riverdale. Yeah. The lead from Riverdale gal is the second guest on Kimmel and she wants to go down there because she's a huge fan. So now, he's got it made. I got the made. Scheduled to come in the morning, but I'm not coming home at all lead guest would have been. So that plan got blew up on the launch pad. But either way I came here did much podcast, then an Talia came Lynette rub Natalia here. And then we jumped in the car, and we went to go see Kimmel, and I didn't tell him while. I just told his people were comment. So we did. And everyone's always nice, and you sit down and eat a little finger food and have a drink watch the show, and blah, blah, blah. And Jeremy Renner was there and everything was cool. And then at the end one up top and. Said hi Jimmy just sitting alone in his his office, kind of rare usually a couple of people sitting in there. But anyway, had a funny discussion with him. I had that Kevin Hart. Netflix lip like fresh on my mind because I've been really I'm not done with that. And I walked up and I should. Jimmy. You know, there's this. Kevin Hart memory, you hosted the Oscars. Right. Yeah. I was there. So, you know, Kevin Hart. Yeah, he was going to host Oscars year after you did it two years, and he's like. I think I heard that name. And I was like. Yeah. That dude remember, then he got into trouble on gay Twitter with all the Bubba. And he's like, yeah. I know about that. And I said, you know, you look at seriously funny, this clip that they put on Netflix, thirty seven seconds. It's all about his gay son and whacking them in the head. I can't believe that's there to this day. And he went I know I saw that clip. And I sent it to my guy at Netflix, and I told him he should take this down like a month ago. He said, and I thought oh that's why Jimmy and I got along. Well, that's why we comedic -ly got along. Well, together, he was everyone else talked. It would just go. What heart-to-heart I love that show. Kevin like Jimmy sought found it send it to the guy runs. Netflix. So may hop to it. Reminds. Camila Mendez was. Was the gal for Riverdale? I mean, whatever. Yeah. She was Riverdale. Now the wrong with her anyway. Hard to tell them the tally. But certain point we went into our dressing room, and she took a picture with the talian than she did that thing where tally filmed earn. She said hide in Italian friends. Couldn't be there not because an Italian likes them. But because she wants Lord that over that for the rest of their lives doubt about that. And we're driving home. And she's like, oh, she's so nice metallic saying she shown I she show. Nice. She's a nice, and I'm like, yeah. She's nice. But what are you gonna do? You know, what I mean, you got a guy here. He's a celebrities got his daughter. They're big big fan. On Kimmel's turf. You got the publicist and everyone housing around and the statement producer, you're on you're going up. They we can't backhand the girl. And so to quit, eyeball accommodates requests. Sure, she is nice. But I what I what kind of explained that. Nice. When you're in hair and your makeup in your, you know, you have you have catered food in your dressing room. And all that stuff you really want. The real test of nice is what how you act when things start going wrong. Whenever your life. Right. Right. All that all the stuff that goes wrong in life. It's really how you process that. Which is sort of a little more of a night because the worst person is great on a good day like Leona Helmsley, I guess for a deer charming. She was charming when she looked at her tax returns and got a big bump or notice that their stock portfolio, whatever or sheltie her Saint Bernard was like eating a carrot out of her mouth. Or maybe one of her temporal owes like it's how you are. When. Stuff's not going, right. It's the coach when you're losing versus winning. You know, teeny tiny example of that is for some reason, I always meet people at target who are big fans of the show. And that's when I'm walking around like a zombie with no makeup thinking about God knows what? And this girl. Just tweeted me the other thing filter about I saw you at target, and I really wanted to say, hi, but I didn't bother you. Because you look like you were thinking about something. Gina's face. Yeah. But like I was I was in some sort of emotional peril. You wanna disturb me? Like that in the exact after the Katy Perry. Right. Right. Exactly. Looks like she's thinking about some stoop vapid, really nice. And you you're read. But this will connect us to the conversation. We were having earlier before the Mike heated up I was at brunch to to breakfast two weeks ago, weekends ago and woman sat down next to me table. She was set down next to me the table next to me with two other guys, and she was a middleaged woman little older than me. She had grayish hairs and recognizer. But I recognize your voice, I know that voice, and I could hear Ballard talking and conversation going wild ride that voice and. Just Julius weenie from SNL. I hadn't seen her answer. And everything here's a look up on on Google and match the current image, Julius weenie. So when we got up for a few minutes later, she had she wasn't eating at that point. I was like I'm started bothering started by the breakfast is your name. Julia. She's yes, it is. I am not only big fan of your work. I wanna tell you when I wrote my book shrinkage of your comedy special where you're one woman special called God said ha is about her getting cancer mom with mom got cancer. It was one of those Trat tragic comic perfect, tone bitter. Sweet but hilarious. I I didn't see the whole van. So the trailer. She thought her daughter, maybe a lesbian. So she punch knocked the Mike Sando super funny. But I didn't see the whole I didn't get to the answer. I told her that 'cause I've been thinking about that ever since I thought about writing a book, and she I don't think she gets a lot of compliments on God's at hot. It's not right at the top of her IMDB, Pat, and she's examining. And she said the sweetest think you just made my day. I was like thank you. She is also very sweet perfect level of celebrity absorb that. Right. That's that's what you want because she probably doesn't get a ton of it. And yeah, I'm glad she's still on this earth or what else? Max Bada Kaye Ballard. You guys know who Ballard is. Hold on. She was in a sitcom. I think called the mother in laws or the in-laws a can't recall she had a huge mouth. She with all. It was kinda JoAnne wurley and Kaye Ballard, I think they both started like, they'd be an episodes. That's a great deal of benefit. These hop up in should pop up in like love boat, and all that kind of stuff. I have no idea if she's still alive. She's all part of that kind of mothers in law on NBC from nineteen seventy one eighty one. Got January age ninety three. Wow. Wow. Great magnet. Yeah. She find pictures of her from like the seventies of the sixties you'll go. Oh, her like back when they had like freaky Friday three actresses and four actors who would just show up every sitcom and every whatever like they just like remember back in the seventies had biker guy that guy with a beard. He just being every single every sitcom where there was a biker, right? That was their head like three bikers, and they would just work constantly movies and sitcoms. They're always fat as really just a beard and fat, and they put a Jean jacket and cut the sleeves off Jean jacket put a leather jacket under chain or and they just walked in there. Always there at the bar or shooting pool. Like, they weren't the guys who had all the dialogue. There's the guy standing behind that guy. Right. Won't trouble. Mr. you found hold the pool. Yes. Which all right. The great Kei ballad Ballard ninety three years old. Oh, yeah. There. She is JoAnne wurley. He ballard. The others. How many mothers in law? Probably I'd say like sixty eight and seventy two or something. I don't know. You know when your kid, it's it's such a weird time. So insane. This is not part of the like Nicot night or this doesn't get heavily syndicate. I've never heard of it. Obviously not it's not making the rounds. But it was main stream sitcom is in sixty seven sixty nine and JoAnne Worley was she still alive. Anyway. All right Kaye Ballard had a very distinctive sound. That's why she popped into my head. When you said somebody to take on the Iraq thinking of eve Arden. Ooh, I am thinking, Yvonne. That's that's that died in nineteen ninety. Oh, joanne. Worley was eve. Arden kaye. Ballard in the Mars, and JoAnne wurley was another big mount black haired, raven haired chick who's contemporary, but not not that. All right. Let me tell you about. Find a cliff. K Ballard talking and not from her deathbed. Last will and test. Zoom at it'll be some something from I don't know match game or one of those seventies. She'd make all the rounds in the seventies game shows and wurley still alive. Oh, she is eighty one years old. I didn't feel like she'd be older even though that is old eve Arden was the principal in Greece. Oh, yeah. Come on you a fruit. Fly. I'm jay. She's that's right. The principal ingredient her. All right. Just get her talk on that call. We did let me tell you about zoom. When us every day is a little better the web's best reviewed videoconference service used by millions to meet one on one or hundreds at a time connect face to face across town or around the world. Flawless video clear audio and instant file-sharing connect through any device, desktop laptop tablet smartphone or conference zoom system. This technology is unbelievable zoom videoconferencing zoom zoom rooms zoom video webinars you can do the zoom voice cloud. I think sounds like Kaye Ballard's voice. It's data the art tech. And it's all at your fingertips. Visit zoom online set up your free account. Try the most affordable and reliable video communication solution on the market. Meet happy was Uhm and tried out free at zoom. Okay. Where the heck were away. Yeah. Oh, the principal. Hollywood squares. Let's listen. Sorry. The kids. Hey is our secret scores crevices sheet does not like being the secret square from? I trip for to listen to reinvasion era and other cities via PanAmerican to win over here. If you're wrong to prize, we'll go over to our next secret square game special envelope. All right. Listen. In english. First of all. The traditional New Year's toast of ring out the old ring in the new is from a famous poem who wrote it offered Lord Tennyson Henry Wadsworth longfellow or John Keats. Doesn't know that answer. There's something I don't know anything about that. Shakespeare, and poems and books, and I'm an old EMMY. All right. Gold hair. She never were hair that was weird hair haircut for for k-. I miss K K. So she was nice. When you enter breakfast issue was the Bri. All right. So we have this weird coincidence, and we have the it's a great magnet moment of the of the week. So we have a clip from Monday show, which is max patta, Scott, that's like a thirty second clip here. We always talk that big story at the city of like these rich fat cats start paying their fair, share and skies got commercial office properties. Gotta lowers rent. So people have fixed income coming. I get it. They oko. Oh, that's basically, Peter hood. That's Robin Hood meets fucking Peter Pan live in some kind of fairy land where you're you're always prepare your perpetually twelve years old and your Robin Hood at the same time, that's Peter hood. All right. So that was Monday show. And then I got home Monday night and opened a letter that been sitting around you guys, send us stuff and. I am dutiful but slow duty. I get to we get to almost everything here. But sometimes letter sit around for two two weeks on top of desk and wear and then we sort of get to them. This is the you're talking about the eagle scout finished medical school, Dr. That's right. Well, actually after that pharmaceutical deal went south. He's actually in prison. But he's he's up for all always been Pearl. Coming fast and furious. Oh, but he violated his probation. Left the state of Indiana now back he's back in always actually Shire to kid from prison. Two kids in the book published. It's actually a New York Times bestseller. That's right. Oh, they actually built a statue of him in front of his medical school. But now, there's a protest. They're trying to they tore it down. All right. So it's a little time has passed. I'm move fast. But the I I mentioned that what Peter hood. And then the next day I came in with this guy's letter which had been sitting around unread on open just sort of in the in the envelope buying. I finally pulled it out. I I read it. And so go ahead. Sorry. I got a letter from. Fellow by the name, Richard. And got a good name Richard hood could unkind cut. Yeah. The scroll I'd like to request a congratulatory letter on behalf of my son Peter hood on occasion of earning Scouting's Haya sonner, namely the eagle scout award now. The more the name Peter hood like there's sort of. Twists on phrases. Where like if somebody said Batman, I don't know if you've seen Ben Affleck more like Fatman like something like that. Or things of that nature. We go I didn't make that up. Like, somebody said it before I, you know, the, Robin Hood, Peter Pan, Peter hood thing. It's not exactly I I never claimed that no one else said it. I've never heard it. Carter life. So I never said it to Pete who. Pete who? I've never said it before the best of my knowledge, and I don't know why put those two together but later on that evening, seven hours later, I've sitting at home, and I was reading a letter. It didn't it didn't even if I said Peter hood a lot then it would have registered when I read you guys the kid's name was Peter hood. But also kind of little more focused on the dad like the dad, Richard. All right. It's a Richard writing some about it Peter was son. But to me was more like this is this detat writing letters. So it's kinda dad mode. But it is weird that I made up the name Peter hood the day before. And then the next day the kid's name was Peter hood. I think you're distracted by giving that kid the best band. Name your. What Chris HMS baby sunk in three minutes. Fourteen hundred fifteen souls all gone except for three now the deal, and I know how our maker works when everyone hits the drink. Whoever rocks. The hardest floats to the top. It's like the opposite of the witches. Yeah. You know, what I mean shit floats? That's right. It's it's a fact you can look it up. You can Google that shit. But the harder you rock the harder you float. And so out of the fourteen hundred fifteen this this is how the story goes. It was just us three that popped up. Now is this story explained at the beginning in like a spinal tap Stonehenge dry ice. Yeah. Yeah. So he's over. Yes. They're like backlit with silhouette noodling on the retard. That's right mandolin. But yeah, okay. Yeah. Got to hear the story the story. Yeah. It's like, it's like, okay. It's almost. Exactly like that the black and white footage of Bismarck and the hood steaming out and all the pictures of all the men who met their death Davy Jones locker three men. Yeah. But not Davy Jones from the Monkees. No different David Joe. Walker possibly I'm sure. All right. So that is our great magnet. The moment. We have the news. We're going to jump into little early this. We and not a moment. Too soon because so much news today. Good. Cobb San Francisco coming up next Friday, Saturday night couple tickets left. We don't early show. We're doing the late show two nights. 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A WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was arrested overnight Wednesday at the Ecuadorian embassy in London and arrangements are being made to send him to the US for trial. Look, it looks like father time in that picture, Forty-seven-year-old whistle blower. Like the guy. From goodfellas on the boat. This guy's looking this way. And this guy's shame. When he went for me. Oh, the other ways for me. He's that guy. How putting next. Can't wait to say. Sink right now, isn't it outside of the hallway picture, would you have a picture on the whole somewhat? Now there there it is boy be him. Double check. All right. So he's interested. So he's forty seven. Now, he started WikiLeaks in two thousand six and he released that sensitive and classified information he'd been granted asylum by the Ecuadorian government. But London police were notified that his status have been withdrawn they swooped in and they arrested him on a seven year old warrant for failing to appear in court for rape case in Sweden. So it's kind of that it's a it's a it's a different way in seeking asylum. Richmond format right? Scare asylum thing is that the deportation thing. I look I don't wanna be super ugly like, I'm ugly American. But I don't wanna be elephant man American, but I'm gonna go, man. Man. If we have somebody that or you have somebody whatever the crime was committed. Now, look if somebody flees here from Somalia, and you're like, hey, bring them back. We need to perform clitoridectomy on them. And I'd be like, oh, they should stay here. Avoid the female genital mutilation. But if they shot a cop by all means in hand back sure because they shot when a year cops on in your country and other here and go ahead and do what you do with them. I don't and by the way, whatever your rules, are I guess those are your rule. So if you want to bring them back and stone him to death because that's what you guys do to cop killers. Then I don't I'm not sure what role we play here. He fled to us. He started sitting on this this this country like coaster, and you can just pick up your cop shooting beer mug and bring it back to your side of the bar. That's so we get into stuff all time where. Sky fled to Mexico, but Mexico's not gonna give it back because this guy burn his family and insurance fraud situation. But they have the death penalty in Texas. So we don't abide by that just getting back and. In any of you, Roman Polanski, and you did whatever whatever. And he went to France. I would just come get you with the Senate guy a windbreaker cool, France, cool spring him back. You're like, I don't not sure what it has to do with you. Does it work that way? Like, oh, I'm in trouble with my with my family, but I'm in my neighbor's yard now. So you can't touch. I don't know how that works. We'll just go get him. And we'll bring him back, and you guys will just step aside while we do this. I don't like this sort of international waters. But it's right in the middle of town an embassy, and I get the happy, you know, I get the part where you want your diplomats protected, but somebody committed a crime they just get to hide in the middle of the block because they can't set their foot like Olly, oxen free. The has the power to accept like with Julian Assange say yes, you can seek asylum here or not like what I know is what I've learned from stuff, you should know their episode on. Embassy's if the embassy is that country's territory like if the US embassy in France, your US territory in the US, you're on the US USA oil. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, they make their rules inside the embassy. I know I know how it works. And that's that's the notion. I mean, it's kind of weird notion like you're on US territory, but we're in France. But either way I would say there should be some review board or something that says again, we're dragging this guy back to kill them for stoning for blasphemy or something like all right? He gets the hang out, amber. But rape somebody or whatever. Sorry, we go. Yeah. Yes. Well, you know who else was very upset about this. Apparently, be FF. Oh, yeah. Pamela. Anderson thoughts, though that she said she's reacted to the news. And by slamming the US and slamming the UK in a Twitter rant. There should be. Maybe not a coffee table book. But one of those old school calendar. Squares read rip away the square and there'd be like a saying of the day theme of my calendar would be when hot chicks go Batty. Speak out. Yeah. Because the month of March is dedicated to McCarthy when they're twenty two they're just too busy laughing and being like, a sex kitten and figuring out which rock and roll berry and all that kind of stuff the chicks were formally. Fives and sixes when they start losing it in the looks department. They're not baddie because they didn't have a life filled with everyone just nodding your head on every word, whatever the worst is when you had a whole life. Also, it's an vacuum of education. Just hot all the time. And you know, whatever you're doing in high school. It ain't studying for this AT's dating a guy in college when you're junior and high school, whatever and then at some point. People don't really care about the aesthetic as much I a certain point you age out. But the brain that brain man that thing kicks in and you start talking, and it is awesome. You have to wonder why people listening to that's right everything. I said, where's your thoughts? She tweeted how could you Ecuador because he exposed you? How could you you K? Of course, you are America's bitch. And you need a diversion from your idiotic Brexit, B S, and she continued and the USA this toxic coward of president. He needs to rally his base, you're selfish and cruel. You have taken the entire world backwards. You are the devils and liars and thieves, and you will all caps rot with two TS, and we will rise rat. Yeah. The pan. Own show. That's your best apparently going to the mat forum times like. It's times as your memberships Canadian. That's right. That's right. Well, we got to extradite or two. Yeah. So she needs to go to like moose jar something to really be Gordon. Yeah. Moose knuckle jaw. There's probably. Yeah. All right. Sorry. Well, that's going on. Meanwhile this. Be sort of metoo like she's a gal and he's accused of rape. And no if I remember correctly, she had thoughts on the metoo movement that weren't super jiving with me to write Christmas. I think I'm right about that share your soft. She she did an interview with I don't want to say twenty twenty or something and wasn't like wasn't wasn't sounding the trumpets. And. Yeah. People share a little backlash. So we'll find. For my apologies. Sorry. Okay. So the suspect accused of being the Golden State killer has been charged with thirteen murders for that and other related crimes pasta. Prosecutors are pushing for the death penalty so his name James Joseph James de ngelo junior. This was all committed in the seventies and eighties. He's accused of raping about fifty women taking whole families hostage during the late seventies and Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay area, he had many monikers, and this is a little great Magni where. Yeah, this wasn't that serial killer Asian guy like in the cabin and docked and keep them for long. That guy and that he was also up north or trying to think of where there was a guy. There's a syrup healer docked like bring him out to the woods kind of this recent he semi animated. And that not really but recent not seventies Kaye Ballard. N G is his last night. Yeah. Rare Asian serial killer. Yeah. Yeah. And he was born in nineteen sixty resin eighty five zero kill committed numerous crimes believed to have raped tortured and murdered between eleven twenty five victims with his accomplice, Leonard lake at lakes cabin in calaveras County, California, Krista that off memory a big. He's a big. This guy's a pillar in the community. He had his poster up over Spanish latte. This guy's N G. Yeah. That's pretty common. Name actually Vietnamese. Born British Hong Kong Hong Kong, he thinks when better by foul. Yeah. So he had a lot of this. This Dangelo guy. The Golden State killer had a lot of monikers the original nights Docker, the east area rapist and the vizo ransack her. Quite a long conversation about ransack hours. So he was finally arrested at his house, and this was April last year after he was linked to some crimes by DNA samples, basically, he went into a hobby lobby whose family rerouted through the DNA. Yes to match it. They followed him to a hobby lobby while he was inside. They swabbed the car door handle and found it to be a match, and that's how they nailed him. The one that patent oswald's wife had been working on that book for years and years. Trying to catch up originally reported that if from a DNA testing service cousin a distant cousin. Okay. Yeah. Listen, everyone who's always like freaked out about big brother big brother's here. Now, we have to side what side of big brother. We wanna be on the notion of like, I don't want to government knowing what? The government. The government will send notices to your house and tell you to like cut down branches or pay them money or like you. If you own a warehouse or something some of the governor will go like, I we need inspect this this walk right through it until you need fire. Surpr- you need to post every ten feet. There's gotta be a Bill that talks about either fair fair employment Bill or the Heimlich maneuver like. And that in every they just tell you. I don't know open a restaurant. See you don't want to govern government involved at the government's involved with everything all the time. They take take forty two percent of my money that that's pretty involved. Well, they know how much money will yell make because we tell them every year like clockwork, right? They know everything. So my deal is is I'm with everyone, theoretically on I don't want to govern Volvo. I don't want him knowing right feel the same way. I'd like to not pay them a million dollars a year in taxes, but that ship has sailed so with that in mind since every cop car that pulls you over all that guys to do is type in your name into the computer that's in his squad car and everything about you. Pops up on it since we're there, then let's now go all in which is solve all these for good in. This isn't even older argument where when you are born you are not assigned a name you're assigned a number number until you die. So not on the grid. I don't get it. Oh, Bob Seeger wrote a song about that. In the seventy two also like a number. All the time. Bob Seeger song little bit of a deep cut the play a lot of the Hollywood nights Hollywood hills and on stuff it's got a lot of those. But feel like a numbers is a is a moving. It's about I don't know. It's just feels like a number. He talks about quarterly earnings. Race to the IRS. He's another file. I'll really yeah. What rose ten ninety nine September. Fifteen estimated tech this quarter three. This is every Bob Seeger song as part, right? Brachman ever in recent write songs about what a pitch work wasn't my sucked. But. Oh, we miss the song. Right. That's a Bob Seger patented lyric right there. Oh. Aberg? Chris cover this one. Finger bap. The crowd down. I'll stop doing that. Any point at yourself when you do the damn, and I'm a man, you know, put this up inside cry for him left anthem show. Cruise. Yeah. If finger popping music stuff people can danced people know up to enjoy. I'll try that you know. Okay. Well, Kim Kardashian wants to follow in her father's footsteps and become a lawyer. Oh, yeah. Now, this is a little bit of an interesting twist told her about the scandal. Well, yeah. In an interview with vogue mogul says she's been she's been a four year apprenticeship in a San Francisco law firm in preparation to take the bar in twenty twenty two saw this movie legally black. She says she was inspired to become a lawyer after she successfully lobbied, President Trump to pardon Alice. Marie Johnson Alta now when people are like wait, don't you have to go to law school in general? Yes, however, four states allow you to take the bar without going to law school that is true, California, Vermont Virginia. Instead, you can't just show up. You have to give an option to apprentice. With a practicing attorney or judge in. That's what she's going to do. Well, what does she was assigned your case? I don't know. To the public. In a suit that doesn't fit exhausted. She's show hair Asian room. I hope she I don't know. Why not it'll be it'll be fun. In a weird way. She has arguably more time than we do two things like throwing the day like it'd be you'd be a fool if I said, I wanted to be an attorney it'd be like, well, how are you going to do that? All you do is run around all day, but she probably has some afternoons that you could carve out for kind of thing. I mean, really let's not sleep on the fact that she got a person to more than one person pardon from prison. I three three people of women to men, I think. She has a passion for it. Yeah. I don't know. I can't remember if she forgave the French team second-story team that the stolen jewels or not maybe she'll leave them in. But she's probably still has a beef. Are let's do one more right? There's so much traffic stuff to all right? Sorry. I just debating, okay? So Mike Lovenox is dealing with yet another legal headache, according to TMZ of Nadi allegedly stole millions from a mentally ill para police on disability judge who had a four million dollar settlement county. Can I say this about me? You know, my theory of everyone might jaw line theory. Like, we go that guy knows what he's doing that. That's the guy fly this plane, avocado. He's got the Gialle line. Right. And when he started popping up on CNN people like just guys gonna take it to Trump like he's got he's here. Like, this guy is going to take over like, he's got my vote like you have all these people with legal backgrounds political backgrounds and years and years and years of journalists. This guy is the porn lawyer who pops on your stay. She didn't like six minutes in like, this guy's got house guy. He made a fist and should've just come in for Trump. And that's why this guy needs to. And it's like cosies got the jaw that says. I know what I'm doing. There's no double chin version of Ominami that ever works. Right. We all got sucked into the Charline perfect shaved head burbot shave dead. But it's really about that ya. We all got sucked in. And we went look at him. Eight is looking at ya. He knows what he's doing. We're kinda weird is she in being there's there's no look you can say. Well, there's this hatred with Trump, and he kind of said he was going to stand up the Trump and all that but sodas everybody, they're plenty. There's plenty of Chevy guys on MSNBC exact same thing. All right. 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Should Mass Shootings Be Focused On?

Neurodivergent

1:08:26 hr | 2 years ago

Should Mass Shootings Be Focused On?

"Hey ready before you listen to this podcast. I just want to give a bit of a warning. We intended this podcast to be structured around. Should we focus on mass shootings. I e is that really like the the biggest effect you could have if you focus on that set cetera tre however it kinda just turned into a really long ramble above guns were we attempt to have facts and statistics <hes>. This is our second ever podcast cast. Were we attempted to do research and guess what it's hard. There's a reason everyone subscribes temple <hes>. If you want us to talk about other things <unk> suggest them give us suggestions goner discord server links are everywhere coming and pop some suggestions in there and you'll get less episodes like this same thing in the disclaimer is good shit but it is long to fax lacks great this this'll be good one fee who will it though it might enjoy enjoy the episode <hes> such such as it is last weekend. There were two mass shootings in el paso in dayton and two days after that neil degrasse tyson tweeted in the past forty forty eight hours the u._s._a. Horrifically lost thirty four people to mass shootings on average across any forty eight hours. We also lose five hundred to medical errors three hundred to the flu two hundred fifty two suicide two hundred car accidents forty two homicide via handgun often our emotions respond more to spectacle spectacle than to data so that tweet got him a lot of shit because while he tweeted it two days after the events happened which which two people with feelings as little insensitive however f. everything in that is correct. It's all one hundred percent factual. The media media made him apologize of course but you know that kind of leads us to the topic of today's podcast which is should we focus on mass shootings. I'm damien is the neurosurgeon podcast series edition and just a preamble. I guess a mean in k. are probably gonna be silly at times and we don't mean any disrespect to anyone. It's just our nature and is also you can't go through life without being <unk> humor. You know horrible things demand humor. I think in a weird way i don't know how to explain that and wish i was a ticket as a ticket as like everyone else in the world that has a podcast <hes> but instead i can rely why on a co host with a british accent to lend articulation to this coast is k. from the u._k. Say hello k that's k okay so yeah. Today's topic is should we focus on mass shootings and we're actually going to attempt to have structure for this. We did some research for this which is rare for us but this is a heavy topic. Obviously this is so broad. Dan has so many different things so many intersecting <hes> topics that we can't. We're not scholars we we. I do not know everything about everything we did the best amount of research since the shootings that we could so that we can talk about this with a little bit of knowledge but if we get anything wrong please please don't hold it against us and feel free to email us at nerdy virgin podcast the g mail dot com if you have any comments criticisms or corrections so k. Hey <hes> give us give us a little intro into mass shootings and any anything you like okay so there is an agreed upon definition with government to do with what d- sheetings are and how they're defined. It is the department of homeland security's <hes> pity u._s. United states is where my sources from so so it explains a mass shooter machine. Let me an individual actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in confined and populated area in most cases active shooters use firearms and is no pattern <music> own method to the selection of the victims and that was in jailer because that is an active shooter <music> which is different from mass shootings <hes> we can talk about active shooters. I did okay. I did a little bit of research into that. <hes> when i was looking for statistics statistics just have to jump in there to crowbar separation there because as as you defined it they don't have to have killed anyone oh own in contrast very definitions for matchy. Oh yeah i see what i've done. Yeah i've copied and pasted the wrong bit. I well now. You know what i see as well. I could give a brief. I sure okay so this is only the united states congressional research service us. They acknowledged that there is not a broadly accepted definition <hes> and they define a quote public mass shooting because terms matter because will legal and statistical public mass shooting is an event where someone's select four or more people indiscriminately and kills them mm-hmm echoing the f._b._i.'s definition of the term mass murderer which is as follows the act of murdering a number of people typically simultaneously or over a relatively short period of time and in close geographic proximity the f._b._i. Defines mass murderers murdering four more people in an event with no cooling <music> off period between the murders mass murder typically occurs in a single location where one or more people killed several others <hes> mass murderer may be committed by individuals news organizations whereas spree killing is committed by one or two individuals mass murderers differ from spree killers who kill at two or more locations with with almost no time break between murders that are not defined by number of victims. I'm also serial killers who kill over a long period of time really good <hes> really the good way to see the difference between spree killing and mass murder. Mass shooting is <hes> port albert turner member. It's the thing <hes> the the thing that caused the trillions to do the whole mandatory gun buyback aac confiscation of guns <hes> horrible horrible horrible spree killing. Go read the wikipedia page it. It's gripping the novel. It's horrible. <hes> that was a spree killing anyways u._s. Law <hes> mass killing rather than mass shooting <hes> the term originally four more people with no cooling off period it was redefined in twenty thirteen by congress as three three or more people which would massively increase the amount of mass shootings from twelve to twenty thirteen because they've redefined it yeah now c._n._n. M._s._n._b._c. new york times washington post economists in the bbc use the crowd source site massshootingtracker which defines finds a mass shooting is five or more people being shot whether injured or killed. There are a million different <hes> definition some of them. It's not for people we need to be killed. Four people shot or injured or killed which you can see how if you define it as four people shot but not necessarily killed old versus <unk> for people shot and killed massively different numbers and also just like to point out that four chance crowdsource too so a little little skeptical of massshootingtracker but it could be one hundred percent legit. I don't know i'm just if every media outlet goes to one thing it just reminds me of <music> a bad bad stuff so yeah they were definition. <hes> kills and helps go the easiest the definition that will get the most things so three people killed or more in one location in one time by one or more people that yeah just just for ben. No one can argue. No one can be like you're cutting people out with your statistics <hes> yeah not that really have anything to say about the manipulation. The statistics are how you redefine it or whatever <hes> do you have any any words to say cake. I've run into a wall where have no good segue from one thing i the research to another thing just kaffa cup that little bit <hes> the way that mass shootings defined like he said the society ambiguous. It's hard to get any solid data because we're not clearly defining it so we con- tau like i try. Try to a shit ton of research. I found it really really difficult to tell how significantly it's rose. If it has the media making more all public layers of later questions <hes> that is a bit monk buckling really. I don't have a specific stat to give you that. I trust <hes> <hes> <hes> i did. I did a bunch of research and tried to find as many things as i couldn. I've seen enough different. Statistics from different sources <hes> that i'm pretty comfortable saying that it has roast like mass shootings. <unk> have rose yeah significantly <hes> especially ashley in the last ten years. I think there's nobody on any side of the n._r._a. Probably would agree with <unk>. Yeah maybe not because the n._r._a. But the normal people would agree that gun people. <hes> one thing i have to say is <hes>. I showed you this beforehand just so you could see see hit and i wouldn't sound all alex jones trying to research. This topic was trying to read a brick or bash a brick or do do something with a brick because the algorithms and the internet and case in point. I was trying to look up a conservative. <hes> <hes> <hes> some conservative stats on on gun steph mass shootings soy went to look for ben shapiro stuff on youtube and shapiro little tiny jewish guy asia. Where's the hat <hes>. He's what i'd call an average <unk> conservative. Maybe like a little little right right wing conservative <hes> <hes> he's as big as joe rogan or at least almost as big as joe rogan he certainly is big or bigger than jordan peterson who you can't escape on youtube <hes> mm two before if you searched any anything conservative you get nothing but pages of ben shapiro from his actual channel cut up bits from channel. All those like benjamin bureau destroys blank on gun control kind of videos just nothing but pages that <hes> so. I went looking now and i i'm. I'm literally just typing like ben shapiro. Gun statistics are gun control gun violence. Nothing only only the mainstream publicly <hes> like accepted media like nothing but fox and m._s._n._b._c. and c._n._n. And vox fox and vice and that's it it was all gone and then when i'm trying to google stuff it was gone from everything was gone from there too and not just conservative stuff just anything i tried to find anything out of nothing but pages of articles from the mainstream media and i know that this is a change 'cause i have researched this in the past and i would just you just find whatever you want like the gun ownership ownership per capita in the united states in nineteen ninety seven. You'd search that end you'd find it and you'd find it from reputable sources and end non reputable sources and you'd find it so frustrating hate the algorithm and then that leads me to think what about people who are learning things. Thanks for the first time now. What about young people. They're going to grow up in a world where they literally not only can't access certain information but don't know it exists. It's like google is literally going to shape the beliefs and opinions of the next couple generations. It's fucking king scary. Okay damien alex. Jones style rant is over though completely lost where we are just this stuff to do defining yeah well they are. Let's jump to well. I guess i'm i'm pretty sure that your opinion is that we should focus on mass shooters. Is that correct. The problem is is that focuses of strong word. I think just because he can't be really horrified. Alarmed longed by something doesn't mean that you can't be horrified by other things. We're not being horrified. We're talking about focusing. Let's rephrase that a little bit. Let's make prioritize. You've got a stack of issues should mass shooters be at the top of the stack. It should be one of the things at the top of the stack show okay. How far up the stack do you think. I don't know how it turn this at like. Turn every podcast i in into damian questioning cable things yeah megan. I mean they should both agree. It should be up there but yeah i i i kind of maintain that there's a whole lot of stuff that should be above it and that makes disagree with <hes> most of most most people i guess yeah i guess it's just because the nature of the crime is say horrific but we don't focus a lot on domestic homicide which happens more so which has a significant connection to mass shootings so it's not like because as you said i hate the word spectacle but it is just an event event is horrifying. It's just absolutely your full yukon. No look at it on the news but then something is like oh husband husband cheeses wife. She's dead in life. Yeah send that one is just the way the mainstream media and i'm not gonna. I don't think i'm i'm gonna call him news anymore nine mainstream media <hes> they they they're emotional pornographers what they are in just going onto the like domestic things in homicides whatnot <hes> interesting thing that mass shootings domestic violence wins have a connection where current or former intimate partner or family member is killed in fifty seven percent of the cases and in twenty one percent attended the cases of that per pez previously been charged with domestic violence which is pretty interesting. The fifty percents <hes> fifty fifty per seven fifty seven percent stat comes from huff po who got it from michael bloomberg's gun violence prevention group every town for gun safety which which i'm a little skeptical of because it's like well i mean it's outright biased. It's it's anti <hes> by the way we should lay down our beliefs because it's twenty nineteen and you're not allowed to talk about anything unless you apparently believe it and agree with that so i'm a liberal and i'm in canada which should make me like a super mega ultra liberal bill and i am for gun control and reforming all the things however i'm from out in the prairies so i look at guns tools. It's not collect things like you should be able to own a gun but i'm kind of okay. If there was a situation where you know they made it a little more difficult to get a gun licence and maybe you could only get certain types of guns if you needed them for certain types things so i'm not blanket gun banning but i am for for <hes> okay attempts to defend yourself from the ws. I'm a lefty left his game too. She's got victim points yeah. I'm i'm yeah. I'm a massive lefty. <hes> i think there should be a gun rightful. <hes> i think because in the u._k. We have guns is kind of like. Why would you need them so. I haven't grown up in that kind of thing you just run away making finger pistols going bang bang. We just hold upon knives and just <hes> and that's how i get to however stop. I'm going to chase christ however i understand that that's unreasonable. People let guns they wanna protect themselves. People fall miss as later different reasons <hes> but we need to have a referendum on how people access guns the licensing <hes> <hes> an also assault rifles like nine thousand nine hundred four they banned assault weapons for ten years and then the republicans bull back in then that would be less people killed at mass shootings in america i mean in america because of the nature of these guns and how many bullets they fire off every whatever i have a question for you <hes> so give me that bit about the assault weapons again what you mean you said something about assault weapons being banned and then coming back yes in one thousand nine hundred four <hes> assault weapons banned like auto so <unk> matic hoops about guns is bound for ten years and then the republicans back. What if i told you assault what rifles were still illegal. What if i told you machine guns fully automatic weapons are illegal and have been illegal <hes> since i think the early eighties <hes> denote to first off assault weapon assault rifle military style weapon military style rifle. These are all weird shady terms terms. There's no such thing as an assault weapon that that doesn't exist <hes> and notice the media kept getting called out a i would call every gun on an a._r. Fifteen and then surprise surprise a lot of america a lot of americans no guns and they would point out actually know those art all guns aren't aren't they are fifteenth so then they went to assault weapons <hes> and then they got criticized inland went to military style weapons. All that really means is black black rifle black rifle. Maybe with some camel on it. It just means scary looking rifle. If you painted it green cammo it would be a hunting rifle <hes>. Do you know how those guns work. They shoot a low initial. Amount of time is my wrong. The you pull the trigger and a bullet comes is out. That's it so why are they. Why are they cool to my mom because the because the media wants you to go to freak out and in the left wants to ban every gun these guns are called. Semi autos yeah yeah so that's what these guns are you pull the trigger and a single bullet comes out <hes> pistols. Most of the pistols are also semi autos the exact same type of gun so this is why you see in the movies when a guy shoots his gun he's not caulking at each time. He pulls the trigger and a bullet comes. He pulls the trigger and a bullet comes out. That's a semi auto air fifteen semi autos it is illegal to own a gun that can teach like you. Just hold the button down. Hold the trigger down and just bullets come out. That's illegal to own to modify a gun to do that and then there's all the stuff of a bump stocks and all sorts of shit <hes> sad thing is that i think in almost all of the cases you know hashtag not all <hes> any kind of illegal guns were obviously obtained illegally said so that okay that's pretty interesting. <unk> said that's not really the issue. Then is a getting hold of these things. Illegally is what you're saying. Thank you read. A lot of these. Reports are a lot of the articles <hes> about man. I do not sound like someone who's i. I don't not sound like sam. Harris <unk> outside like i have everything in my brain. <hes> there was ended up talking about how like so-and-so suspect got these guns. He wouldn't have been approved in background. Check you know every time there's someone who had illegally obtained gun and pass a background check in the media goes nuts 'cause that's the best thing for their narrative like that is that is just that some good emotional porn for them him however leaving most of the gun crimes are committed with illegal guns or most of the mass shootings hashtag not all correct me neuro diversion podcast touchy mail dot com <hes> an also a lot of these people had pistols and then you know i was reading one thing when doing research by the way feel free to stop me. If i'm rambling. I don't want this to be just a damian ramble episode <hes> but i was reading one thing go. He would never have been able to kill that many people if he hadn't had his fully machine gun rifle and it's like a rivalry modified to be able the shoot three shots <hes> quickly before <hes> stopping whatever doing <unk> the gun <hes> clearly i know guns to <hes> the thing is the dude had i forget what it was might have been a glock just a glock <hes> which is just a little handguns like what police to carry that oh and then they're also talking about high capacity magazines. He could not have shot that many people if he didn't have a high capacity magazine in his assault rifle full and high capacity magazines are generally defined as magazines that hold more than ten bullets. You can modify glock to hold a high capacity the magazine holding thirty one bullets he could have done the same amount of damage with pistols legally obtained. It's all it's hard to parse the shit out because it's all so sensationalized by the media yeah t._i. Turn now or log about guns. Come from a place of guns. I'm <hes> dangerous. People don't treat them as dangerous as they are. Basically that's the tiller on guns. Yeah no fan i would never in a gun. Even if i lived in america. I wouldn't be able to anyway <hes> i i would do before we continue k. What's your opinion on the second amendment. Obviously leave the united states on u._s. Citizens is that a right to own a firearm. <hes> you have the right to own <hes> weapons firearms in order to defend yourself from toronto government so the whole purposes. You're allowed to own weapons to defend yourself against the united states government. If necessary can the government. I thought it was against of people. No i mean that's implicit in it as well but the whole point of it was i mean you gotta go. You gotta think on a longer timeframe <hes> the united states as a country in my opinion controversial opinion is is doing better than every other country in the world and has been for a while and i kind of feel like maybe the second amendment part of it because you know i think it does let's give government pause before they decide to like enact military control of a state or something the fact that their population population is armed. A percentage of their population is armed and will fight back keeps the power in the hands of the people hashtag. Not all a a bit. I suppose fill light barely like the government has tanks and armies yeah at the labor <unk> this stupidest could be this could be a whole nother podcast but just quickly <hes> pistol. It's an yet have tank. Thanks in arms and stuff. However things happen gradually most the time in a developed country. It's not like <hes> some horrible place where a someone's is gonna come in and former military genta or junta gionta. I'd hype brunson <hes> but no there's there's rules. The united states states cannot <hes> start using their fighter jets on citizens inside the country. That's what the police are four and then you have the national guard and cetera and and guess what a million people with quote unquote assault rifles versus. The police force could make it if i'm not. I'm just bullshitting. <hes> sound like some kid who's like my dad could be your dad yeah. I dunno situations. That can't happen and i think the second yeah good. Though i think is still of course you do because you only get the right to bear knives ben knives ninety long phase yeah don't even have the right to bed knives over you. Can you can keep knives in your house but does how do you cut your food. Spoons could just kind of go shelley. Nice buni say you've played ninety hisfuiny before yeah. I feel like knife. Crime is just as bad though apart from the mass mass knife. Someone gave ban guns fuck nuys ninety seven. I think the interesting thing happens the band guns <hes> homicide by knife skyrocketed sh- it went from one hundred eighty when just before band to almost three hundred now <hes> deaths per year by noon and you have to before you compare this to the states you have to compare you have to like understand. The size of countries in the population in citizen violence rates different stuff but banning the guns just ended up with with people stabbing each other more and killing each other different ways more yeah. It's just gonna be the like does terrorists in you k- that go out in the street with machetes in ours yeah. I don't know if they do that in the u._k. But the terrorists and euro yeah made up that was the thing that happened in london while ago might even been any guys <hes> it's weird like i went to parliament on candidate and they had of course all all the excitement <hes> barricades and all the streets but they had utility trucks garbage trucks dump trucks parked in the middle of every street leading up to parliament <hes> and they had a bunch of stuff clearly to guard against an islamist terrorist getting in a truck and driving through the crowd is really weird <hes> gary just a brief aside about australia. Everyone likes to mention australia where removing the guns by the way they only got a little bit of those guns back so now what really happened was most of the guns are still out there. They're just now on account for so great. <hes> basically basically no effect on the rate of change in homicides and gun violence. It was going down before at a steady eddie slope and the slope did not change at all after the band guns. Interesting episode is fine. People were killed. People is just one of these won't kill you. Co- you co- you fast <hes> yeah. What what should we linger on to you next <hes> well. Here's some stuff from the everytown report from the crowd sourced the page that is admittedly biased towards gun control blah blah blah blah but honestly i'm going for sources. I tend towards liberal biased sources in general yeah because most people home. Maybe not most people but it's the easiest easiest way to not get my statistics. <hes> denied by people who go well those are fake facts from the biased trump people volt because if you talk to a conservative about ben stuff they probably already know a lot of the statistics of the conservative side and if you talk to lefties with conservative statistics or even neutral statistics than they go oh fox do's and so if i go with like sacrifice some accuracy in statistics and go with already left-leaning statistics. It's just easier to talk about so twenty nineteen to twenty seventeen. There were at least one one hundred seventy three mass shootings in the u._s. <hes> oh it's worth noting by the way that in twenty seventeen sixty percent of gun deaths fs were suicides most males of course <hes>. I just thought of something horrible. You know how feminists will go by the way hash i am. I'm a i'm a second way feminist. I am like equality for all. I'm not a third way feminist because equity scares the crap out of me <hes> when when i say feminist really i mean i don't mean to insult actual feminists yeah 'cause they always go okay. We'll men are the ones that always get shot. Yeah will manner the shooter's too and somehow that makes it okay. I can see them going. Sixty percent of gun deaths were suicides. Most most of those were men yeah will most of the male suicides were perpetrated by males anyway <hes> about thirty seven percent homicides that according to the c._d._c. which is pretty trustworthy. I think i kept trying to c._d._c. and f._b._i. Statistics but couldn't find anything and then it ended up on that stupid page not stor. Whatever gives you google bar graph. Ha ha gotta buy a whole year of membership <hes> <hes> anyways at least one thousand seven hundred ninety three people shot one thousand in one shot and died seven hundred ninety two were injured under the age of eighteen at least seventy shooters died by suicide seventeen killed by law enforcement in twenty seventeen. There were four times as many people shot in mass shootings than the average eight years prior. <hes> i think that must have been the year with the las vegas. Shooting in one third of the shootings killer was prohibited from possessing firearms at the time that's interesting because that's not wouldn't have met the requirements for background. Check that's prohibited from impressing firearms at the time have a mass shootings. The shooter exhibited warning signs indicating that they pose a danger to others of themselves which is like we see we seem to be seeing that more and more and more to go on websites and they talk all sorts of shit and mc death threats and stuff and they write death death death thing yeah yeah yeah <hes> majority of mass shooters shootings are domestic or family violence. They are responsible for eighty six of mass shootings <hes> <hes>. I think i'm going to get that. Stop stat mixed up. Soldiers can scratch that because my writings shit it just as majority of mass shooters domestic mr family violence <hes> responsible for eighty six percent of mass shootings children killed so this is what happens when i tried to research it doesn't can i just point united states said about like home to solve an avas. Sir read loafing this morning about the pass a i cheetah and he go expelled from school because he wrote in his book. He won a list of people that he wanted to kill island right. Yeah made that ni- mental health provisions no kind of fuck. We need to get this the person some helpless seriously fucked in the head. Oh i know what we'll do. We'll expel him which they should have done for like security reasons but it's just a bit late eh preventative. I think bernie sanders had some really said some really good things in my opinion when he was on joe rogan about this <hes> and he's talking about how like that that kid should have had some kind of psychiatric intervention <hes> there should be therapists and it's cetera available to anyone that needs it free for everyone in the country is a canadian. I'm just like well yeah of course uninsured americans like no but <hes> that that that needs to be there needs to be there because yeah that's pretty fucking good sign that someone is like really fucked in the head and then obviously to expel him fervor social isolation. I think the right thing was for them to <unk> expel him. That should be some sort of emergency mental health care for people that are at risk of radicalization shen terrorism tat. This should be will. That'll don't even prevent compromise radicalization like if you suggest radicalization congratulations graduations are racist islam phobic homophobic bigot literally hitler. There is a provision in the n._h._s. There anyway gang leaves you. Yeah yeah unfortunately are alike. A breeding ground for terrorists like a number of famous ones came from luton which is uh-huh and all in the same area interesting. <hes> one thing i'd like to point out is every town which is seems to be a pretty gun control e type thing praises the effectiveness of background checks and they repeated a report saying since nineteen ninety-four they've blocked over three point five of million sales to people with felony convictions domestic abuse fugitives and all other people that would be by law prohibited from owning guns which is interesting and then they talk about eventually everyone gets to the gun show loophole cetera and so i don't i don't know enough to know really what that's about. I've seen people i trust to be like truthful and honest and reasonably moral <hes> go on about how the gun show thing is a myth and basically what happens is if anyone gets a gun using the quote unquote loophole the sellers breaking the law on the person's breaking the law and it's illegal. You have to have a background check. If you buy a gun online. The gun gets mailed to a licensed gun. <hes> dealer and you have to get a background check. It's like if i don't think it's as easy to skirt that legally. I think it's just the it's too easy to illegally get yeah. Yeah i agree. It's interesting thinking about banning or prohibiting people from owning guns because i have to. I just have to interject interject something that everyone is going to pissed at me about <hes> the republicans are flying like the most the biggest step step towards gun control that i think i've ever seen them do in my lifetime and everyone's teasing them for it and calling them horrible evil nazis for it because they're trying to get <hes> red flag laws put in which would be safe you saw that kid with the list of people wanted to kill and rape <hes> <hes> and he was old enough to buy a gun and cetera red flag laws would allow you to go to a court and have his ability to own guns taken away temporarily early his guns removed temporarily <hes> in which time you can get a mental health assessment <hes> etcetera etcetera like you see a your family member suddenly seems to be sharing isis execution videos. You can go to a court get their ability to own guns taken away. I i think it's up to seventy two hours. They were talking about but essentially i mean that people should be like may the rate yay conservatives is come to us. Come meet us at the table <hes> because one of the ever gonna get this again. I think it's a step in the right direction but me they think it's enough. I think it's good. I think it's better than more spin <unk> so you don't want progresses. What you're saying. I'm saying is the progress is good but the progress isn't good enough so you're saying that the progress isn't good enough and so <hes> my brain is trying yeah that means old. That's like from two years ago in catalonia when things happen step by step you don't you don't have something happened and then congress rules that law should be put into place ban all guns from everyone that doesn't happen. God ni- definitely not in america. I don't think no ever get rid of guns. I think it is part of their country. Is the the coach. You're never going to get rid of that. <hes> the best country in the world's so that's interesting though i think part of the she is not all of it because is everyone's going. It's mental illness and videogames nice. Some people are just fucked up on this guy from that obviously but mental stays in no. It's a big part of the hashtag not all but part of murders hashtag not all the i think than needs to be more like emergency provisions of people that are at risk of doing these things and the thing is as well which i thought was. It's quite interesting. <hes> the f. b. I. only investigate violence. They investigate violence over ideology <hes> quite despite how repugnant which i thought was interest. Don't understand what you just said so if we're gonna talk about preventive preventive measures full mass shootings which a few and far between so for example. Let's say we had to service that. It was that prevent these things from happening. We're looking at people that were at risk. <hes> tim show intelligence agency that investigates their own citizens. I know why but basically i'm saying yeah. Basically what i'm saying is investigate. They investigate the violence. Not the ideology investigate it when it happens. They don't really do much about the beforehand that is correct. I just swit- lie at least force also doesn't tend to do things before the crime is committed if there's red flags and warning signs. It's tempting to get lost. Put into place that would help you do that. Then i am absolutely up for that and for early intervention in getting one of the things hello hello is. I believe if you've been diagnosed with a mental illness. You are prohibited from buying a gun man pass now i can. I'm i'm fine with that. I mean i am i am fine with guns and i have mental illnesses and yet i'm like okay. I don't want the guy that's got antisocial personality disorder having a gun. I don't want the woman with borderline personality disorder having a gun. I don't want someone with bipolar disorder. I don't want not someone who has crazy panic tax. Don't want someone with c. p._t._s._d. Having a gun yeah tough by i agree with that i i. I don't think if you haven't been tunas. You should have a gun to buy just above snow need in the majority of of mass shootings though there were no warnings are there were warning signs <hes> fifty one percent forty nine percent. No warning signs <hes> so so warnings like yeah. It's it's not all. It's not all just being aware of oh. Hey the guy's writing death-lists no. It's the people that of thunder -able keeping an eye on them. It's a school thing is while you know. School does the drill semes- sheetings maybe they should be keeping an eye on students how they're acting how the behaving does should be some sort of agency that kind of but at the same time every which quiet guy he's a bit is lucrative is going to be have you been king about shooting on on top of the suspect list of the mass shooters like when i was so i'm old columbine happened when i was in high school and trenchcoats were banned from every high school and i always wore black trench coat of course like i was that kid the i._b. At the top of every the loader weird dilemmas something that we probably should have mentioned backward defining stuff. Is that mass shootings they they don't just use the number of deaths to kind of <hes> specify what statistic is they also use <hes> to exclude gang gang violence because otherwise it would be massively bigger <hes> because people die from gun related incidents that are not accidents yeah far far owners several times more than sixty thousand six fuck i should let's take a little research break surprise cuts because i started saying things that i didn't know enough about to be confident in saying so i'm gonna just gonna rapid-fire. 'til dear the rest of my notes here. N case gonna bring us towards the end of the podcast lift lift some stuff that i did not research so <hes> hundred and seventy some killed in mass shootings in two thousand seventeen <hes> between two hundred two thousand nine hundred seventeen at least four hundred ninety one people were shot and killed as a result of mass shootings related to domestic or family violence interesting state laws that prohibit individuals subject to domestic mystic violence related restraining orders from possessing firearms and also require them to relinquish their firearms are associated with the ten to twelve percent lower intimate partner homicide rate in fourteen to sixteen extreme percent lower intimate partner firearm homicide rate stays stays with laws that prohibited firearm possession by those convicted of violent blah blah blah basically basically states with higher <hes> higher restrictions have less shootings for obvious reasons <hes> high capacity magazines though anything more than ten rounds the orlando shooter <hes> had a glock glock handguns can also fire high capacity magazines as mentioned earlier most <hes> so can smo- most semi-automatics <hes> such clips can be easy to make an inexpensive for instance the thirty one round clip. The glock seventeen can be purchased for fifteen ninety indy five yikes. There's a little quibble with statistics that i found <hes> a lot of people say twenty seventeen was the most most mass shootings ever it was not it was the deadliest it had the most body count because the las vegas thing <hes> in fact the amount of of shootings kinda wavered within the same <hes> the same number except for twenty ten in two thousand fourteen having <hes> a bit lower going from like the one fifteen on twenty s to twenty ten two thousand fourteen were seventy six so yeah what's interesting and to me. Is that the more liberal the state the more shooting seem to happen so california is way way way at the top <hes> florida it goes california florida texas washington colorado pennsylvania but california and florida are like way up there which is interesting also mass shootings tend to disproportionately happened in what are called gun free zones places where you are not allowed to have gun such as schools colleges <hes> religious institutions which is interesting as well breath and yeah makes sense because you know if you're gonna go and try and kill as many people as you can. You're not going to go and do it in texas <hes> <hes> in the middle of a gun convention. You're going to go somewhere in a liberal state where they don't allow guns then. You're the only one with guns murder rates in washington is what am i looking at dod. Damn you'd notes. I'm so this is why this is why people oh who podcast that do things like tim pool <hes> this is why temples tempur because he can go through all this shit and remember it and organiz it and presented and i don't even know where the hell get stats <hes> no isn't homicides reported by police in england and wales starting in nineteen sixty gate <hes> gun control laws passed homicides go up and up and up and up up up <hes> then nineteen ninety seven gun control law homicides go go up and up and up and then they started going down in the late twenty tens so that's interesting and by down i mean back to average for the last breath since the seventies to two thousands interesting thing european per capita mass shooting rate is anywhere from point one to almost four the u._s. is over ten higher gun ownership correlates with police killings. That's interesting three point six percent decrease in police killings per point <hes> of increased gun ownership <hes> i just wrote maybe because texas is like obama in everyone's armed so they're more polite and then that made me thinking. You've got like i'm from alberta. It's like canada's texas and there is this kind of politeness lightness and kind of monir thing going on the made me think if that's because everyone's armed is that why societies had like nights in samurai walking around with weapons and there was this kind of honor thing going on by one. I wanna say honor. I don't mean like behaving well honor. There's like a a thing. It's a type of thing in society. It's not always good honors. Why if you offend someone else's <hes> sensibilities instabilities or disrespect them you have dual in one of you kills the other one like that's honor interesting thing two thousand four study of prisoners prisoners who possessed guns during crimes for which they were jailed found that forty percent a obtain them through an illegal source and then thirty seven percent through family or friends in the rest all sorts of other stuff then i just made a random note about the christ church jordan peterson link because that was weird because cry after christ church they. I started blaming jordan peterson for it. <hes> new zealand pulled all of his books off the shelves. Yet kept mine comps on the shelves shelves <unk> <hes> here this fist a warning. This is a conservative point from the conservatives so you can and just start disbelieving it already <hes> it is a little dubious given the source. Which was i think ben shapiro. I am pretty certain that it's factually correct that. If you look at it the facts would be what he says. However like me can say facts the other things and it was in the nineteen sixties america emptied out their mental institutions. They had at the time <hes> over over half a million people in mental institutions and then they just let the ball up because the social norms changed and <hes> <hes> yeah so they just let them all out now they're all out there and there was a massive increase in violence and gun violence and homicide in everything bad not saying they're caught like correlation does not imply causation just because they let a mental institutions does not mean that they are when doll bought all the guns and did all the mass shootings how interesting that <hes> in the sixties there were over half a million people in mental institutions and less mass shootings now. There's twenty five one thousand people in mental institutions and i'm billion massachusetts correlation causation hashtag not all etcetera. I'm not saying that that is why it's just an interesting thing thing. When i was looking up the conservative side of of talking about this stuff oh another interesting thing if you ban banning based on mental illnesses like you can't have a gun based on mental illnesses you're gonna have to do blanket mental illnesses which is never gonna work because everyone's been diagnosed something. Everyone's got anxiety or depression something at some point so you're gonna have to grade mental illnesses on some kind of threat scale just think of the problems. That's gonna cause okay borderline personality disorder. You're the highest biased of the threats. That's that's a fight right. There don't want to hear about that one. Oh another interesting thing when i was looking stuff up the demographics because everywhere i go <hes> they love to point out that the mass shooters are white males which true again facts however spun just like the facts of the sixties stuff throw white males <hes> <hes> but again i kind of feel like the mass shootings not the biggest body count. If you're trying to fix something that's not the biggest bang for your buck. That's very bad phrased use for that. <hes> there oh it mails and then i started looking up demographics demographics of homicides in whatnot because i happen to know some of the figures from previous research go figure could not find any information in about the like demographical ethnicity type statistics behind all the different shootings homicides and whatnot just nothing when i found found anything it would be the ethnicities demographics of the victims this is because and this is a horribly uncomfortable statistic african americans the black people in the united states are disproportionately ridiculously higher in <hes> perpetrating homicides and gun violence and that's very uncomfortable but i found it interesting that was basically a raced from the internet again just because the fact doesn't mean that correlation does not imply causation. How's ation obviously if you're black. You're not a palm aside machine. You're just a dude. It's clearly a cultural thing but it's interesting that that was relate and not let me rephrase not so much a cultural thing as in black people and culture making the homicides. It's the environment. That's what i mean please. He's don't <hes> assault me on the internet yeah <hes> twenty seventeen sorry sir yeah i found graph with the f. necessities and i put it in my kit from the plot affections to get them what s <unk> <hes> <hes> and it's between nineteen eighty two even august nineteen by sheets race ethnicity seems legit. I think i saw the same graph you're looking at my think threw it away away because it didn't meet my standards for what i was looking at four yeah. There's a lot of other on nine races which is late okay. I wanna take a look at the graph while you're saying that so. Can you send meal a link or copy paste. The graph cav have pasted it <hes> so i don't have as many other currently put points is damian <hes> l. Oh quote researching <hes> i <hes> that's why i didn't use it. It's number of mass shootings the difference all the mass shootings are done by white dudes like seventy percent or something is talking to you on the side gas that saw audie interesting well. I feel sad about my little girl now. Of course we're gonna perpetuate choate light the white person perpetuating mass shootings. It is wiped anti-saddam white people okay. Perpetuate isn't the word more all. I happily promoter like that intimations out that that's correlation causation. Just because you're white doesn't mean you're going to go out. Mass shoot just like yeah. Just because you're black doesn't mean you're going to represent. You're gonna go out and shoot just because he represent eighty percent of all homicide and again. I'm this is a gas asked. This is what this is a guest based on what i remember about a statistic from like the two thousand to the twenty seven teens <hes> but if you're african american african americans were disproportionately <hes> represented in gun homicides sides and deaths to the tune of like eighty percent of the deaths whereas they represented something like twenty thirty percent of the whole population down. That's significant so if you're twenty to thirty percent again. I'm giving big wide ballparks because i only remember the general ballpark figures here if you're a eight thirty percent of the population and you're responsible for eighty some percent of the deaths via gun homicides that is significant now now we're just into the end bull just again bullshit part of the podcast because <hes> we wanna wrap it up because it's been going on for a long time. I'm an meandering <hes> so i think there was something like four hundred seventy four hundred ninety one deaths the mass shootings in twenty seventeen four hundred and seventy one four hundred ninety one f. I is the sad thing is i actually referenced this statistic like twenty minutes ago <hes> <hes> but this is for us doing research for podcast is good okay because this is progress is their second so let's go the high number number four hundred and ninety one dead mass shootings. That's horrible and they keep talking about how white males and fuck it. Let's just go for ninety ninety percent. I think it's like seventy. Seven percent are white males but fuck it ninety percent. Let's just say ninety percent mass shootings done by white males mass shootings two thousand seventeen four hundred ninety deaths that is <hes> significantly more because that was the year of the las vegas shooting happened so i mean we keep hearing about it. Increasing increasing that year specifically the body count was huge because of the las vegas shooting now two thousand seventeen there were thirty nine thousand seven hundred seventy three gun related deaths. Sixty percent of those were suicides asides thirty seven percent of those or homicide thirty seven percent of thirty nine thousand seven hundred seventy three. That's large number than four one hundred ninety one unfortunately again causation correlation different things <hes> african americans disproportionately a massively disproportionately represented in gun related violence and homicides thirty percents saying this intentionally the most biased is way i can. This is not what i think. I'm pretending to be fox news here. Okay i'm seeing actual stats except their bullshit half remembered stugotz. What's but i'm being fox news so that's fine they kind of just use bullshit stats anyways right african americans disproportionately represent <hes> <hes> a huge amount of the thirty seven percent of homicides out of the number of gun related deaths in two thousand seventeen which is thirty nine thousand in seven hundred seventy three okay cool that means nothing just like it means nothing that <hes> whatever crazy percent of mass shooters which resulted in four hundred ninety one deaths in two thousand seventeen were white. Stop saying the race of the people as though that's a thing unless you have data saying it's a thing i'm done that i mean i really am done i have i'm i'm at the end of my not yet points there erasing black people out of everything and the focus on white people. I don't care. I'm not like white. People were oppressed. I'm just like stop. Stop seeing the race. If you don't have something else to go with it yeah i agree <hes>. This is longest pa i i have. I have anything massively est outstanding to say so. I thought it was interesting. People won't gum murph uhm about guns in america so i count massively comment on the type of weapons but it kind of sounds like a lot of the stuff that's being sold illegally legally and the kind of most of what i was gonna say add-ons lots more air modifications. That's the word <hes> does not being enough looked into that and instead people are trying to get rid of guns or trying to change lettuce legislation. I feel that's being overlooked looked oversee. It does the mental health thing. I think if we had teams preventive teams for at risk people especially in high schools and things like that where people can be more sense 'cause if you're at risk protect lewisite everyone swoops in why they're doing it for this. Yeah people are <music> at risk of home and sometimes these things are detectable. If you're going to high school every day and you're writing which in unite birkin you lights lights socially bizarre. Just you know your mies basically yeah. If you say that needs to be a preventative team just him prevent honestly when i was sixteen to eighteen i knocked out every single one of the criteria of being a risk like yeah i was i would hope that there would be something out there that would have caught people that were like me when i was that age yeah people at risk of suicide the same way there people to help them but that should be teams in in schools. You know <hes> it should just be thing the as long as i said earlier the same way they do to drills and stuff if someone comes comes in and shoots the bunch of people why not prevent said passage from cheating and faith but here's a thought what if you started like they do active shooter drills in schools now which fucking hell that's weird <hes> yeah. It's horrid. What if they were also saying like. Hey you know if you're you know if the kids sitting next year in math class is carving the names of girls into his desk with a knife. Maybe you should mention it. I mean that sounds like a good idea but that is like so you can so slippery slope that into becoming the stasi and informing on each other and horrible horrible things which we you don't have to start talking about that would take forever. I just wanted to nation. I think more i mean is teachers looking at students. I'm not talking about arming. The teachers teachers like a lot of people say teachers don't now to fucking teach class half the time. Let alone useless night. Security guards in schools armed armed security guards in schools yeah do that. Why not when i'm brian why not what would you have just before we end. Let's just hit hit hit the nail home home with the sledgehammer sledgehammer of the thing what if you were if you k- was god and you could just restructure america to stop gun violence silence and you totally heavy-handed what would you do really extensive mental health teams people that do cool out in the middle of the fucking working night just like ridiculous sources. Just ridiculous full the prevention of homicides. It isn't just mass shootings. It's not kind of violent violent risk group <hes> i wouldn't on the teachers guns because i don't think loaner how to use them half the time and what stops a kit it from taking a and fucking about to swing the night <hes> i. I guess you could have like armed guards if you wanna itunes. It's not great but that could work. It would be weird radiohead funny with miami look. I'm going to say what i would do and i didn't pre think any of this just came to me. <hes> the americans would hate me so much more than you like. You are honestly the friendlier one to americans because i would say blanket statement anyone with a mental illness. You cannot own a gun. <hes> anyone's committed maybe ever over cannot own a gun. Maybe illuminate say your kid and you broke into a convenience store when you're sixteen and now you're twenty five and you've been great. Maybe maybe that's okay. Maybe we'll work something that you can have begun. Civilians cannot own anything more than a pistol only pistols. Sorry guys yeah self defense. That's fine. You can defend yourself a pistol. I think you should be able to own a rifle but maybe you have to be a farmer and you have to apply for something or maybe if you oh you know specific needs only needle specific license for a rifle obviously continue the ban on machine guns continue the ban on fully automatic addict rifles. That's military only <hes> and maybe if you own a handgun you must legally be required to have <hes> sophisticated gun safe with biometric <hes> things so you let you need your thumbprint or face scan to open it and and every time it's opened it would note somewhere somehow that it's been opened by who what the gun was removed. If the gun was replaced meaning e can't open it and then not put the gun back which means that there will be a record and i think this record should be available to law enforcement and i'm captain privacy. I'm like the stone. Snowden alex jones there in our listening yeah but i i think the gun safe records. Maybe should be open to law enforcement just period. I think more armed guards should in happen in general i'm okay with armed guards at schools <hes> after listening to some of the stories from jewish people who have armed guards at their synagogues because white supremacists will come and try and shoot them. I'm kind of okay with armed guards more of them being just around even though there there will be more strict etcetera etcetera. I think okay here's where i will not be allowed to america. If they ever hear this. <hes> i think some sort of task force which probably would have to be backed by police may swat team sometimes should remove move guns from people who shouldn't have them by all the criteria that would be established. Yes removed guns from people who owned the guns spy force. Suck it up yeah yeah. I'm pretty heavy hand if i if i was god things would be different in america would kill me. They'd it'd be like nietzsche. They'd kill god. That's kinda pretty solid as much as i've got an <hes> by the look on your face. I'm guessing is time to wrap it up. Do you have any final closing things nine. Nothing massive just guns a badham came. That's right. Only nights are good. All hail boris johnson yet. Thank you for listening to know divergent. 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The Stan Lee Story Featuring The Medium Popcorn Podcast

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The Stan Lee Story Featuring The Medium Popcorn Podcast

"You are listening to for all nerd show a podcast about geek. And pop culture from the perspective of people of color for all, nurses, hosted by DJ, Ben I mean Titanic Jones, and Jeff J our show is edited and produced by DJ, Ben I mean, and for all nurture is a member of the Laos because network where we always say recipe founder combat Jack for all nurture was powered by listeners. Everything we do from our podcasts live events. Our website are all independently funded please continue to support us through our paycheck on page at patriotair dot com slash for all nerds Rogo. So. And what's your welcome to another episode of all? The only place we talk about king. Kosher inspectors. And as always, it's your boy, DJ, Ben. I mean, aka meek mill house AK avian vanity tone. Aka Sam legacy AK. Yeah, I'm all out of ache. As if you've got some new ones hit me up. Pat, me, David. I mean because I've been sloppy lately. I'll go with the silver smarter. But that's really not bad good. You know, so I'm just trying to waste no more time. And introduce someone who we have not seen in a while round these parts. Well, I've been back. But I I went to the other deck of the spaceship. You're you're over here all taking over a new deck of the space, or you know, it's nice. And plush, right exactly this. Plush, plush, Dak exactly the plush Nick what does that ten forward on the next generation? That's the name of the bar where. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. This is Chico. Leo. What's up? Okay. Ongo aka Bernie slanders. Let's it go. Age lucy. I mean lewd Beijing. Yeah. Yeah. Like lebron? Flames has a different meaning LeBron frames. I think is what? Lebron flames. Light that right there like that. And yes, you know, as you hear de Tico Leo is back in the spaceship, folks. It's been a minute. Welcome back. The dynamic duo reunited right now. It's just the two of us like a Will Smith or a Otis Reddings Otis. I'm evan. It all up tonight folks to us here. No, no. That's my Bill. Yeah. Bill Bill withers. Yes. Use me up and other great jams. But yeah, it's just a tool of us tonight. So far, you know, Jeff J is flying in right now. He's returning in his estate pod. What's the reverse of the state? Bob shuttle pod. Yes. Shuttle earnings returning from the planet and the shuttle. Yes, returning from the plant in shuttle, Tatyana king is still out in nowhere mining celestial brain crystals as it were. And you know, we're back in the spaceship is to four all nerds show. Thank you, everyone for listening for subscribing on I tunes YouTube all those different places. You could see we got the video pop and we're back on video tonight. Hello, what up shops to brother, Chris engineer here in the spaceship? It's beautiful tonight, man. But this week is definitely one of. I mean, sadly, the most momentous weeks in comic book eek, pop culture, anything history. Well, we do it was covering. I mean, I'm not trying to minimize you know, because it is it is a weird thing. Like, he like like all these obituaries had already been written. And we're in a drawer, and, you know, I don't know. I saw him from afar at Comecon like three years, whatever his last Comecon, whether it was two thousand fifteen or twenty sixteen and he was super frail. I have I my my paternal grandmother died at ninety three the other the not the other day like three months ago, four months ago, and you know, she was ninety three or ninety four you like she was ninety three and she she ended up dying a week before ninety four th birthday. Like, I'm not sad about like she had a decline, you know, like and Stanley has had a decline. So I think it's celebrating his life and his legacy is what it's all about. If you make it to ninety five that's a dope run. I mean is it incredible. Ryan the man had a sixty five year marriage to his wife. Yeah. The I mean every like every everyone knows we're talking about Stanley who passed this week. You know, I take a quick moment of silence. But word. Oh, man. That man lived a good life. Like you every mad like yesterday. I was definitely shed some tears, you know, 'cause I'll just thinking about it the legacy everything what he's done in his life. But at the same time, it's just you got to celebrate it. Right. Absolutely. But there's a difference between doing that and dying like a life being cut short or a career that, you know, like, you know, the m- more often than not that we ended up talking about. So I have fully behind celebrating the legacy and the life and like yesterday, I retweeted like, you know, eight great things one bad thing. You know, every human has gray. You know has a gray. You know, there's there's some things that you do that are dope. And some that aren't and his some of his rights sort have been muddied by history that people have died while everybody has died. But you know, I mean for the most part the effect that he had on the world is like, you know, unrivalled. But yeah. He wasn't a perfect. You know, he was not a perfect person. No, probably lean more towards the good than the bad. It's debatable. But like with any person, you have you know, we weren't there for reader. I note a real history. You don't know what happened? It's actually, you know, everyone who doesn't know what we're talking about Stanley, basically is one of the people responsible for creating the marvel universe as we know it today. He at a Tom either. I've been a tweet read about this. He worked for time the comics before it was marvel comics when he was thirty nine years old. He was ready to quit. He was done with the industry. He was doing a lot of romance in like, cow bless westerns. And he was just sick of it. And his wife Joan told him do one last comic. And do it the way you want to do it. And so he created a fantastic four. And so boom from native fantastic four was a hit everything popped off. It just kept going things. Just blew up marvel became. Monster that we know it today, he created many things and a part of his legacy that we have to talk about is that it wasn't just him. And that's what a lot of people now because he's the person who appeared on all the marvel movies. Everybody knows his face and name. Well, his name was in every say he was the editor in chief till seventy two and then he became the publisher. And his name is literally in is like Stanley presents in every marvel comic from. I didn't even know do they still do it. But they used in seventies. Eighties ninety Stanley presents in every single. Yeah. His name was constantly there. And you know, famously the two dudes Shuster and Siegel sold the rights to, you know, superman to DC comics one hundred thirty dollars, you know, like he was on staff. But yeah, the ownership stuff of that. And who created what like there's a lot of gray area. And I feel like he, you know, he was out front, you know, also Kirby left marvel so like, so they're, you know, they're they're they're, you know. You know, we'll never told and and Cevdet go. So we'll never totally. No. But we're coming in now to our our to the landing port the, and we have our third member, you know, back in the spaceship joining us Jeff J, aka no as. Quicken to the point where it over here distress in Stanley. And I know Jeff that Spiderman is your favorite character of all time. You know? So how did how did you feel when you first started to news? I mean, it was sad. But he was ninety five years old. So I'm not he lived a long life. You never know when it's coming until it's here when his here's just like damn I wish I could've met him. I miss. I coulda took a picture with him talk to him. 'cause I wouldn't be here if he didn't create marveling and have a hand in creating all of those characters I literally wouldn't be in this room right now. None of us would be. And it is interesting to say like, I would say Spiderman is my favorite superheroes. Well, and like, you know, that's an issue. Like, no matter who created it like all the words that came out of spider man's mouth at least in the first hundred issues or so we'll put there by Stanley. So any I've heard different things even there. But the majority of it. Yes, right. I I d is the thoughts. Hole with great power comes. Great response. Right. The just the idea of what? Peter Parker is right. You know, the nerd that's something that somebody tweeted that every blew me away is that he made heroes out of nerds and scientists and to this day like somebody who is also tweeted and talk about their thirteen year old daughter wants to go to high school for science because of Peter Parker. Right. You know, and that's a little girl right now who Stanley's influences reached 'cause you have fallible heroes, just like humans. You don't have aliens from another planet saving the world. You don't have billionaires which you do have billionaires that drink and women, and that are profiteers off of war that learned the air of their ways, and they still have those qualities in even on another note, you have villains then complex that had different ideologies that may have been drawn to there. Rian ways where you say, I I really can't blame them. Even think about the vulture in Spiderman homecoming, Yep, yell. The government comes in takes his job where we heard this this rhetoric before right? Takes his job. He's been doing the same job damage control comes and says, we don't your your services aren't warranted, all because these damn heroes wanna fight aliens. And now, what are you gonna do? You do whatever it takes to make the money. You can make you're going to apply your skills, and your intelligence and one person's villain reason. Another person's survival. Yeah, they even go out of their way in that movie to demonstrate his loyalty to his employees in a way that like even the best companies today don't seem to have, you know, like he he had one point says like the only reason he's still doing it is because he needs to take care of all these people. What would they do without? You know, like, I mean, it's clearly some megalomania there. But there's. Like, so. Yeah, I mean that that's the advantage though of of being created in the nineteen sixties versatile the nineteen thirties. I mean DC has always been handicapped a little by when their their stuff was created a different era like a couple of generations later and also by by grounding, everything in New York City, where marvel was instead of all these sort of fake magic cities metropolis. World door loophole city. Yeah, exactly it they became relatable in that sense as well as the way that they had foibles and failures. And like, you know, the thing had self-loathing and the fantastic four were family that bickered. I remember it was alcoholic. Yeah. Exactly. That was like what you were talking about. That's later. I mean, that's not he I don't know how much he that's early. The woman is in alcoholism, and the you know before. Yeah. Yeah. True because it comes from a storyline where he gives up is like. But it's all it's all influence and crew right homes from his creations. And that's the thing about it. And that's something that what I wanted to talk about with his legacy is the idea that we were talking about wouldn't it when he passed is he created Black Panther alongside Jack Kirby in nineteen sixty six like before all the idea of inclusion diversity before any of that was these buzzwords that we use today. The people hate on the whole I saw someone say, oh, this is Stanley social Justice legacy. And I'm just like, no, no Stanley was just a human being did people were just human beings who wanted to create something they knew and he would speak about in his soapbox in his editorials about racism about bigotry about all these things that just you know, that's what gets me about him died. He was thirty nine years old when he created a fantastic for about turned forty years old and that was his first huge success. And it's five years later that created the Challah was like nineteen sixty six five years after that. You know, he's I forty four years old. He creates a black. Panther. And so people who are like twenty like, oh, I've done nothing yet. It's like you always have time. And then I was reading that code of his he's talking about how he used to feel inadequate basically being a comic book writer because he would see other of his friends becoming doctors engineers and all these things and he's like, what am I contributing to the world. And that's something personally. That's always been big with me because as a DJ, and you know, I went to university. So I know nothing, but doctors and engineers and all this type of being and I'm just sitting here DJ and doing podcast, writing, whatever. And I'm like, what am I doing, you know, with what is this really helping the world. But when he said that it's like entertainments one of the most valuable things in the world because it helps people get through their day hells people maintain when they have these problems in their life. They can get away with some entertainment for a few minutes for few times. And that's something to help me as a DJ and hearing him say that so it's all these things that I just respect him so much for it. You know, no matter what goes on behind the scenes over who created what who did anything. That's something. It's like it's always a team effort. It's just like this show right here. None of this show is just about me or about Tatyana about you or about Jeff or anyone. It's all about everyone coming together to make the magic. There's also very thing. Like like, nobody knew those comics. We're gonna still be remembered today like avengers number one in heck's men. Number one both came out the same month to two team. Wow. Both drawn by Jack Kirby, both written by Stanley like they would never do that. Now now marketing push and they'd be like six months apart, and like one book wouldn't wanna look like any other. And they'd make sure that they didn't duplicate any powers. Instead. They just yeah. Those came out the same month, you know, and I sixty three and, you know, there would be no sense that people would be talking about these, you know, five years later, let alone, you know, twenty fifty, you know, however, many years later, and so that's like a very strange place to be to be, you know, like he he had no idea these comics were. For you know, we're we're going to be what what they've become with these blockbuster characters. That's the other thing about it. If it wasn't for him. And for being, you know, huckster to the salesmen, salesmen that he was they wouldn't have been. That's something that nobody can deny like Jack Kirby. Steve Dicko automo- incredible artists. Everyone who worked at marvel the time we're credible people. But Stanley was out there, slinging dope. Litter? Literally, exactly. So here's what I want to ask Jeff like were you did you watch the cartoon next men or read the comic first comic? I okay because I read I definitely read the communist. I was reading the comics, you know, ten or, you know. Yeah. Like, but the cartoon brought to light. Right. So I was going to say there's a whole generation, I know Tatyana definitely it was the cartoon so Stanley in like nineteen eighty went out to Hollywood. And so there wasn't that much done in the eighties. And a lot of it was kinda whack like these really bad made for TV movies TV series is. Yeah. Credible whole TV. And and the I. The the Spiderman is amazing friends like court sufis. Yeah. Exactly fire like in a way that they will also at the same time. It was an incredible whole cartoon that just wasn't and yeah, they would air back to back. It would be Spiderman is why friends for half hour. And then I slide remember a horror on. Yeah. So, but that's because he was out there said he is he he took the characters beyond the comics in a way that like you were saying, maybe Kirby did go, and it's not just them. They were like these background artists. Yeah. There were you know, there were definitely other people. I, you know, I tweeted someone who was like a back whose mom was background inker on some of the stuff in the forties and supposedly like Stanley like actively denied her, you know, and I just read tweeted, it was some woman, it was her grandmother or her mother, and it's like I just wanted to put it show that there there are two sides to you know, whatever. But Stanley, you know, like literally. It's captain America. Not to captain America comic that billions of people know about you know, like the fact that they haven't even bothered to put comic racks in these theaters is mind bothering me when you've got all these people going in and out. But it's like, you know, the comics are almost an afterthought. It's more the comics are where these characters were born, and then they grew up like on TV and animation unit. But now they've become like real superstar adults in the in the marvel movies, and the Netflix shows in and everything else they're doing on the channel. They're you know, we'll get to. Yeah. I can say I think STAN Lee's greatest one of his greatest compliments is creating the gimmick of Stanley. Right. He's is what you guys are talking about before. Because yield that man is a survivor. The comic valley of the sixties like marvel should not be here twice when they leave filled up. They got swelled covergirl won't point to light some matron. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. So even even the fact that they were able to sustain long enough to get bought by Disney, and then he was able to keep going to where he made himself. He reinvented himself from a writer to a personality to being the one of the most anticipated parts of any marvel movie that you see he even makes a cameo in Spiderman the video game, which is which is insane where I wasn't even expecting it. And it's like it just felt right? Like what he did felt right? And to your point about the person who spoke about the the background, vocals and said, there's two sides. I've already accepted that when somebody dies people are always gonna wanna put both sides. But this is what being human is about. There's. Always going to be both sides of people are gonna remember the good things that you did. And people will never forget the bad things that you did. But I think your legacy. It's all encompassing of what you've done in your life. And another thing I've I've come to resolve myself, too is when you get to a certain level someone is getting stepped on right or not do that. Yes. It's a New York City subway phenomenon. I may walk through the subway now might bump a few people whether or not I intended to do it. It's still bumped some people might still be waiting there. Like, I do a lot and grilling at you. Are you going to say excuse me, are you gonna act like you ran into a brick wall? And you may just keep moving whether or not it was your intent you did it. So a lot of famous people will have stories like that of people who didn't get credited or people who who who didn't get any type of proper credit didn't get any type of money or any type of recognition. And it's not right. But it is a part of his legacy. So I'm not really like, I don't think it really casts a light because I've seen more. Shine on him than the negativity. But oh, yeah. I retweeted like nine different. Like, this is what Stanley did when he met my kid. And you know, he was really nice to twenty minutes out of his day. And all this other really great. You know? So so the majority of stuff was definitely positive. Also, he was the front, man. He was the guy out there. I mean, it's like most people know about the lead singer of a group, you know, more than they know about the person plays, drums and beyond say, it gets all to hate while the rest of destiny, childish chills out, right? Except from the the ones husband. All right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We still got a lot more to talk about family and everything else right now, we're going to take. And we'll be right back. Hey, I'm mountain lead director of nights school, and when I'm not directing writing and producing an editing and spending time with my kids. I'm listening to four all nerds what's up? This is Chuck creek Moore, aka jigsaw from all hip, hop dot com. When I'm not placing my heavy hand on the world. Hip. Hop culture. Watching football news. Hey, Pamela ribbon. And when I'm not writing things like my boyfriend is a beer or face the internet. I am listening to you for. Hey, this is Kelly Robbins six. Minus. Hey, what's going on everybody? This is the Sante one third of the zone. I'll be Stryker listening to four. Welcome back for Bantu this off. As you. Coacher? And as always wanna make sure that word traffic. Spaceship immediate prop one dip apprise. Ranan? Collars, Justin Brown to film enthusiasts and comedians who talk about new movies. Oh, movie some movies. They've seen some movies. They haven't. But each episode is hilarious. So what further ado, welcome to the spaceship medium popcorn. Thank you so much. But you will give doing the the jungle fever episodes that was a classic. That was so much fun. Yeah. So for everyone listening who doesn't know I was actually on the medium popcorn podcast earlier this summer, and we talked about jungle fever. I've never seen it prior to being on the show. So it was pretty hilarious and. Say the least, and we just talk through what the movie meant to us and all the ridiculous things going on in that film. So it was fun. So thank you guys again for having me on. All Spike Lee is. Classic. So I gave everybody really brief intro for you guys. But if you can do a much better job and let people know who you are please Brandon just whoever wants to go. I tell the fan fam- who you are absolute. So we're media that we are weekly movie review podcasts at achy just got a credit by rod tomato. So it's crazies that means every week we said to our contacts males new episode. He transcribes it was tries to break down the crease. Should we say the website, actually as to the Ron tomato meter, which is crazy? Yeah. But we talked about kinds of movies. We do black white occasionally for testing documentaries. We just do whatever kind of tickles are ton. And we usually say real ledge stains relate to our real lives. Just in are both offer them months. So it's always interesting take there's never refreshing like the same ideas is always gonna be something new. So. Yeah. You know, both bayside in New York City. So we've been doing comedy together for two. Yes. The year. You're talking about Katrina ios the year flood, Moses anyhow. Yeah. So we've been doing together for a long time. So, you know, we just we know each other way too. Well, and this is just makes the focus is to have a conversation about things that they like adult life, and as we go down rabbit hole. So folks like try to like look at certain episodes. Black Panther episode of get out of Sobe late. This gonna streamline will review. No, go that's weird things or sometimes we occasionally butcher advocates, which I stay. Because people got so mad at meet them. Listen, even the Athens needed help. They need a translator. Don't get mad ABI yell. Imagine if you can pronounce Arnold Schwarzenegger, you should be able to pronounce an African name. Bersin? Eat a lot. But I can't pronounce words. I guess we see I ain't gonna try to throw. I can't read guys. Well, that's why did you guys aside? Even do a podcast and the first you mentioned your comedians. There's so, you know, there's many different outlets waving is talk. Why podcast? All right. And you guys are back. So the question was why cast like you guys are as you mentioned comedians. You've been in this space, you know, that there's different platforms. Why did you decide to this as a podcast? Yeah. I've been doing podcasts for awhile. I used to have a podcast commie Allers, the the homey, Mike Brown. Checking my you'll Mike Brown's people alive and always wanted to a movie podcast. And I just couldn't find the right person do with in just nice always like talk about movies. Just like we've do hersal for when we at the time. He has sketch comedy group or just talking about movies in general and their shit. Just you should do this movie podcast with me. Well, he I brought me on review the room. And we watched that together, which broke my mind, and basically almost made me a salt brand which made for comedy gold. And one thing led to another this became a BI weekly thing, which then turned into a weekly thing. And you know, they grew into where it is now. Yeah. Yeah. We different team saw at the beginning. I had a theme song that was like niece sing, its forget me. And then we just in that building smooth voice, we remixing. Now, we have the best theme song of all time forgiving. Not like this on that Will Smith remix for. It was not good because I'm not I don't death. It was not a good. So you've mentioned that you felt you were looking for the right person? Do you feel like there was a gap in the space? What made you feel like, you know, I can do this or I can do this better than the other podcasts out there. Yeah. I feel there is actually what besides how this can be. There wasn't really any movie review podcast on my radar. Frequently. I just feel like I had a unique voice in just team adjusting. The theme song we knew we had some special. So it was just kind of like creating a format that made sense to us being consistent. And then just building up the brand from there and based on the recession we've gone past say year and a half. It's been nothing. Short of amazing, the fans people for patriotic people come up to live shows just twenty would we start selling merch, which is freezing. The support is just been another level, which I never. I'm always proud of that like like, you know, my comment standup show like eventually like Alec allow press like it was well revered within let comic community now for us to get Spock in the podcast meets it's still and how do you guys pick the films that you decide to talk about? Guys. It's just completely Ren. Sometimes we have to reach out some fans on Twitter and things like that. So people, you know, asks his own you should do this movie the suggest random movies for us to do other time will actually try to do is like a new movie old movie new, which it, but sometimes it just doesn't work out that way because you know, there may just be nothing out that's worth seeing that or either of his care about. So you're just as series of over fields, but we just like to do the classics, and and especially some black films that are never actually given any birth. So fun to did you say like Pittsburghers? Joe? But folks, but archive of the good I think actually that was that start blowing up because I remember like rod from black guy tips, and a bunch of this is one of the funniest things I've ever because Justin those epic rates about how path. And he should be allowed to be food. And it's literally Brigham moment. Which also was done of the rent on. We have other Abessolo episode called the rand brand has a, you know, a show on their call. What is it? What am I watching? And so that's things like that. What spawns it just? The show to started to grow as we're going along. And we just got different ideas and start running. What's the worst movie? You guys have reviewed. The worst quality were episode. The worst episode was definitely this is like an early stages of the show was supposed to review we had a comedian. I don't want to say his name any more. Because you know, he got a little mad because we had a write up in that town. And they specifically cited this episode is being like, hey, you guys got a little dicey. Because what happened was the guest came on to rip the female reboot. But then about half episode. We realize he never saw. Neta women, and we're just like, oh, no, humidity, huge mistake. But we still released episode even though like clear he he had no intention of seeing. There will not be denied. And we took a lot of flack for that. Because a lot of people are like why did you have angry dude that was just like shape belligerent things on the show? Hey to learning a learning process for really sorry. But you know, we didn't also not wanna release the episode that week we fell in that sort, and we learned a lot from that. But like tone, the guest, please make sure you've seen that you know, you seen the movie ever be. Also, you know, we come out. There's everything that happens on episode is what's happening. So we ended anything, you know, is straight, you know, from from the brain to the mic to your ears. And so we like the fact is like just keeping offensive in just being real, you know, so if we screw over Gus grow up in front of you guys up. Yeah. Yeah. Occasionally, we have people like really medicine for mentioned, the Black Panther episode lay joking, but we had some Duri angry people like tweeting at a saying Yoni or wacko that episode. And you guys do you know them will be Justice. We gave it the highest ranking we've ever given any movie we both love and will be a took my whole. File part is see that movie that will be meant a lot to me. It just like that day just huge migraine. Hi online, full disclosure. It just all replaces a two hour episode and people were just like Mattis, various reasons, and we even are of fans yield at wasn't your best. And so we apologize. Really? Hey, we always make sure you guys quality products. But at the same time, we do have or folks it seems like every year. So we had that one of the fuck guys. Yeah. You know, what I think we're going to have like a Black Panther too. We're gonna have to do something really special to make it out to our meeting about core. Michael journey. Mispronunciation of names definitely than hell. A one point just trying to alleviate his study. Big no-no any kind of audio form of. But for some reason just if we got that day. And then we were mispronouncing. A lot of pronunciation over the place recalling things from the plot. And you know, we marvel fans, but if we're basically I'm like, a C especial Batman, so black canton, mythology and stuff. I wasn't well-versed. And just know read a lot about. Talking about our takes characters and stuff. It was just at the end of the day. It was like not storm of mess. Was create. Wow. Wow. Wow. So you guys you guys have very distinct understanding of comedy, you have your very distinct flavor Kombi as well. So I'm interested in no, just your how you grew up how to factor in and maybe even later on that formed, maybe, you know, through school or just friends like how did you guys come up with you almost have routine? Maybe you don't know what you guys kind of have a routine. So I'm I'm like, how did you? How did that form? I think one of the things that just I connected ever. Both black us from the suburbs on from a remission and for little. Yeah. We grew up in the same kind of veered like place for just play Justin even though he was the only like just lane squamous only just in around, but they still called you black just in like this. Ohio. Kate. I was the only I was I was one of the only black kids in the school mind. You any other black kid in my school is related to me? But on top of the that they called me black just why was the qualifier necessary. Exactly, exactly. That's how I grew up. So. Good continue. I think you know, we just really bonded on that. I mean, even when we first met, you know, ten years ago, you know, we just we just bought it like we're on. Yeah. We were just onset together for college humor shoot. And just going off when some random character when these random characters we were given, and we just we stayed in character. Obey just having fun. That's how we became friends. And it's like from that, we just bonded. But like for me, you know, my comedy just comes from, you know, growing up in very very black family under very black situations in, you know, going to a very white school. And this just like the. The physician of those two worlds, then I grew up in a very very white Canley for black people and very very white world. And so that's why. All it. Because I grew up in the jury liberal suburb town like my family is like. Faye was faking? The fungal thing. New replied, we were white like there's a long time before a race was a big batch room. If you know what I mean like Tito middle school before like, oh, I'm black racism Israel. It's not. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I was gonna pay the world be. And so that's kind of where like, Mike. From my heart hitting that are wall realize what my life is going to be different than the white kids growing up around. Yeah. My dad worked in organized crime in Harlem. Then used to work for bumpy Johnson guys. Yeah. For real. How did you? Did they tell you this outright or you found out later? Oh, no. You my my dad? My dad told us. Oh, I have. Well, if you also listen to the podcast randomly. I just throw a random story about my dad because it just comes up randomly and. Yeah. So I have there's a lot of storytelling this podcast. But yet my dad told like my my dad movie hoodlum when he just sat there just like. Well, here remember that kind of thing because I was a little before his day. I remember being there. No, no. He remembers. You remember Johnson and like all the stuff going on and things like that. Well, my dad was significantly older when he had forty six on the ad me. Sorry, forty seven. So he was very old yet is fertile. So so he he came up he came to to New York from North Carolina in the fifties. So like he was in old Harlem. You know from Simpson. Until the late eighty. Fever suit on that that flipper. That was eighties now. So I don't know. But he was wearing this is true. Who? Oh god. So okay. So now that you guys grew up this way. Like, you say both have the suburban thing. Now, you're both here in New York. What has changed between how you've come of age? And now that you're dealt and then one of least one of your married now. So Wes change in your perspective in life. Boy, I think being true to yourself. I think that's one of the like, I particular struggle with for a long time like up, the suburbs and not quite know, my place, no world. And I think. I think come in New York was the best decision. I've ever made in my entire life. Just because my world to so many new things. So we knew people, and that's where I get offended by ignorance, they give the by people that aren't willing to put some to learn about people around about different ways of life, and can that's had a profound impact on my comedies have profound. The pats on Mike fiercest, I can share to listeners of the podcast. So I wouldn't change effort a world in all honestly, moving to your helping me my wife who I'm a lot to deal with. I know that. So it's great to have somebody who can handle that beat the dog show when mom used to she just a handful. I don't think so. Well, what about okay? So wait, wait will not just doesn't just Justin. What about you? I think it's definitely as well being true to yourself because I've done a lot of crazy ridiculous things in my life. Yeah. I know what I when I was in college. I did Marine Corps officer candidate school says the officer marines side. No that's not for me. I try to cut somebody with Sampras or Brandon. Let's talk about that. I mean, I fought professionally for awhile, and I've done a lot of different things at, but you know, being a being funny being comic. That's I've always felt like that's what I am. That's who I am. And like over other stuff had just let it go and just get down to my roots of you know, who I was and, you know, shaving all of that and just being offensively. For a while. You're talking about boxing MMA wrestling. Okay. Martial art since I was like twelve years old, and then, you know, then floated into MA, and which is which is a love of mine, but you know, at the time. At the time. There was no money in it. So what am I doing? I got a college degree in the head. I'm good the life story right at which. College Saint John's university in queens, and I went to college in newer showing. And you know, something that always comes up when we tend to talk about school, particularly with black people. They like why didn't you go to Hugh, or why did you go? So since both of you guys are not gonna HEC tell me why. Honestly, like it just I wanted to end up in a big city, so even Chicago. So I got the Columbia Chicago is going to be California possibly because they got the champion versus going to film school and then proceed New York because the money. But I mean, honestly, like when I think about I do regret not considering it just because the experience I think I would have had. But at the same time, I can't take Saint John's back because I met my best friends in my life. At school. You know, like our boy deal Stevenson. He's a friend for life because he's a Franco for all show. Zanny like, so I've never I can't discount the people at that. Because when I think about the circle of friends, I have now like I'd never could've imagined that being like, the kid, the suburbs. Who was like it's hard for me to find friends because no one really knows for box fucking fit in. But now it's like I don't have to worry about it. But also because I love the people around. For me. Well for one I almost went into the marines. I almost enlisted instead of going to college. But obviously I'd made a great choice. Not. But yes, so I thought about enlisting at first and then. Had college. There's a better choice, and you know, I own a gave me good money. So decided this is where I'm going to go. So go into that school in the getting much like Brandon's as like, it really changed my life and being close to the city. I started training upright citizens brigade. And all things like that. So it's like it kind of formed. You know, who I later became over trying. So you guys have had a cool amount of varying experiences that have all melted. Make the people who you are today. And as we mentioned a lot of the comedy goes into that, you know, comedians tended talk about pain through jokes and some become cynical. So would you guys consider yourself like cynics, or do you think that you're more realism or even know what apps it would be? But what do you guys can say yourself? I mean, I don't think we're cynical. I mean, a recent of Soviet did we did some of the bombo, right? A lot of the family dynamics. And he's all scared about that plane crash, and then spoiler e- ends of dynamically questions is a real store. But then I related that you find out my father died a few years ago, I found rebel for my wedding. That my father was like this renowned like Oregon specialists, you'll them and shit. Like, he has statue his name. All this crazy stuff any guy the plane crash doing and mercy organ transplant, and my main takeaway from that was just like, well, you know, you get what you do you really goofing about it like it's a serious of it. But it's it's I can't take it back like it is. And so we try to find the truth and like relating comedy to what happened our lives. So use comedy as a truth serum. Yeah. I I try to be as triples fossil. Sometimes a little bit too real like a head. You know, like, my family or my girl. Tell me like, hey, I get what you're doing here. But you know, I think he needs to be aware of Haikal joke or the story my pets like X wanted because I have a whole five bit. Now, I'll find my father, and my wife is really worried, but like I think it's gonna Moncef feelings by dinner for mom, and she actually takes a really funny story, and she gets common from so it's tough one to to balance. But I try to be truthful as possible. You're absolutely right. Because like like, of course, you know, lay said on the podcast talk. You know, I'd tell them stories of my dad's like why would I not tell those on sage in some are pretty darker? Like, I talked about you know, the data died. His dad died of Alzheimers few years back and you just common show too early Finnish show. I got the call and just and just being true like ice. I the next year was a anniversary of my dad's death. My whole set was about him. And it was also distributed to just talk about the real things happening your life. And you know, life is tragic just tragic as it can be can be just extremely funny. You know, mist of all that tragedy. I think you know, it's good just be yourself and talk about that stuff because there's feelings inside. You know, you've gotta get out and some come out community. That's good that you guys share that. Because I'm always in different ways comedians, use comedy like know, like I said, I mentioned cynical stuff. But to your point you do it to tell your story, and it seems like to bring other people into your world in a more relatable manner. Absolutely. I think that's the reason why like a every year or so be get some backlash on one episode that even the most creative things we say we usually related to connect personally with us. So it's hard for people to like, you know, yell at us Twitter or say like, you know, we we should say X Y Z because we're always related to this is our this is my personal thought point of view like you don't have to it. But I'm always tell you the real thought that comes to my mind, and I feel like you guys are experiencing different levels of success right now, you mentioned that you have a patriot. I'm on it. Now, you guys seem to have a successful patriotic only you just got on tomatoes. So that's. Is a big deal. Do you feel like or what would you say? With the the point. If there is a point where you feel like man, I made it. Oh, I'll take this brand when interest over finally does our show. That's what we know for you. All rotational gauges tier? So. I wanted to mention that. Because like I said, I'm on your paycheck. And I was like why is each one of their tears. And not just a different pitch. But it literally goes from wide angle says Uhm in and then each pitcher he's wearing less close and give the people what they want. Would it really comes down to a big fan of medium of code? So sometimes in every now and again when anyone becomes a patriot of cone. I like to shout them out as the patriot. When he shows up right there for you. Whenever now. I hope you that accent. When he's actually with you guys probably get up and walk away. Oh, oh, you know that exactly what's going to happen. Now, I will say for me. On a more serious. No. I think for me validation will be when we begin like selling shows, and we actually take the show like on the road that that's a dream for just nine. Play Keno connected. Are we have? We have listeners base downloads all over the world, which is incredible. At this point. It keeps growing like are hostile not ever go Nova Scotia. But. Episode forty thousand downloads, which is crazy. Yeah. I think that just trying to figure out how they can just get some black people themselves be killed, but whatever whatever works, right? I think for me it's also like a we've had some issues with like. Being put on certain publications, and then abruptly being taken off and replaced by white movie review, any reason why besides the initially we thought it might be because the subtitle movies for the publication. We never really got full confirmation. Y was we're not gonna top ten comedians. You know, who have hilarious podcast lists up, very hockey or publication. And then I went back to look at the listen one day in the nose replaced by like a white dome vox defend their movie, which Sean alleys the host that show. He's a really funny guy. But it's just very strange and hit up some being used that had relationships with trade, the lodge show, and they say eight your shows gift it, but then it had white movie Phil review shows at those fakes. And so Mike. Okay. So pretty much I want to get to the point where like fuck you to all the venues. We do our own thing and our fanciest come up for us because that's the power of our patriot. Patron? Call them patriots. Here. They go patriots interest us. You're still go with that right here. Yes. Yes. Wow. So I mean, you know, when those things types of things happen. How do you how do you deal with it? And then further how do you move forward beyond that? How do you strengthen yourself when it really comes down to it? There's certain things that we can't control don't worry about it. You just put your head down and just keep on doing doing the work, and the people who follow us, the people who love us, you know, they're still there. And that's what we do it for anybody else catches on great. We love you just as you know, the old people have been here. But you know, we're doing it because we love it. And I think that's what really matters what shines through. What would you do? You have any good advice to give people who wanna start either film, focus back as or any podcast. I would say just do people. You you really can talk about anything with do by yourself. You know, just make sure you have a reason deal. Like, he you stay consistent with it consistency is the key for us making sure that we have episode out every week has been like spoke, no Wednesday morning. They can download our show. It's going to be there have left and it can't wait to next week. But also gonna do with another person just make sure you can talk to them about anything just night we pitch movies because there's a never ending plethora movies also because we can literally talk about any topic and make an hour of entertainment out of it. Yeah. I guess it also doesn't make it feel like a job or anything is. You know, it's just you just hanging out with your friend, just talking, and, you know, sometimes, you know, I think one of the things that one of the compliments that we've gotten about the show that really touches me. He was like I feel like I'm just listening to just two friends or like me, and my best friends talking about, you know, a movie or whatever and just hanging out in the kitchen is like, that's I feel is exactly what we're going for because we're not trying we're just enjoying each other's company and just having a conversation only kind of flu Rick. Clearly about chickens. I'm so. Well, you'd be able to get dinner and just a minute. But before we get there. I I wanna say you guys have survived the interview segment, but we're not done because there is also the brab segment are kind of quick rat kind of rapid kind of not really rapid question. An act question. Nassar segment I'm gonna give you some choices. I need you guys. Give me some ashes are you ready? And if you need knowing who anybody is living now, but I think you guys versus the first question is falcon or war machine. War machine because he's me now. Real world machine. Don't use a gun. Well, I was just wanna plane back from Atlanta last night. And I saw a man falcon hanging out in first class. Yes. Indeed. So I'm gonna go with falcon Anthony Mack. XP math. The. And the key. I see essay, Ben. I mean have a name butchery in common. Very nice. All right. The wire are breaking bad the wire, she's implores one of the best pieces of television ever. I don't know about that. When the go with breaking bad. Oh, yeah. Rick and band was consistent from season one. He was always up the podcast, right L. How dare you, sir? Guys. All right magneto or professor x. Oh, yes, I'm magneto as well. Bad ass. Many. I cannot wait to see what. Kevin vice don't want to give us fans on that. That's going to be insane. That's gonna be depending on who they get to cast in that role. I mean, Michael fast there, even though he was getting some shitty. Scripts lately, he ex-members class your first class when he's taking those Nazis. You know, what he goes to that bar like yo Meg needles shit. Yeah. Actually, I'm kind of with personally hope some of those people don't change that because I really like him as the young Eric. So I've been here about dark Phoenix though. I don't think they're gonna keep t- with that cast sick of continuity. Probably not in the they might even change up the age ranges. Well, but he still did a great job. So. All right what Kanda or the moon data? Man. That's that's rough. That's all. Why? No. I'm kinda I'm kinda. All right. Well, say wait who says there's a moon to isn't just a city inside of Laconda. Unlike. Unlike a small little subsidy that's cheating. But. Exactly. When if you can lose if you must always cheat. I K. What is the one thing? You cannot live without. Brennan. Shit found about why should we kill me? But, but if I'm being real it has to be music a music player like like, I pot or something actually go without music. I'll lose my mind. Okay. Is that bad? We'll get divorced. I mean, the papers may be on the desk when you get back. For me. I'm I'm just gonna go with you know, I think as my memories like I've always says like if I ever started losing. And I start forgetting things that's that's it. Because like I've done so much of done it met, so many amazing people, and it's like without all make me. And it's like, I don't know where I would be without them. So, you know, my memories that's special tower like in Harry Potter story members that's such a thoughtful answer destined, by the way, like that's. Came out with something with the hot fire. Can you know about the guy who chose Zun over his wife, but the guy? I five. The trouble. I'm just I'm just making it worse for you. But fresh prince or Martin. Martin france. You don't because I is so hard for me to find someone who kind of reminded me myself on TV, and it's very corny, but Carlton bakes actually made me feel better about no, I'm being your head about like, you know, the way carry myself that actually okay for you to be yourself and not be the stereotype that suburban people or you might have about how you're supposed to be in what black meets wait stop talking to go. I go with Martin because. Mart has won the funniest lens of all time. You can't afford supporting camp for cheese at a whopper. Volta? But. Random line. That's the best live. All the Martin lines. I'm gonna go Martin because. The relationship between Martin Gina. There's always a relationship that I wanted somebody who just like, regardless of how crazy ridiculous that you are that they love you regardless and just like and she stuck by him. Well, just just pure Magnus. Then suited his leg on nj towards later seasons. Oh, yeah. But like this old I've always wanted that. I I looked as my ideal relationship dill. Fred favorite, Wesley Snipes movie. I wanna go I really want to say blade just because he was the first, but it's too. It's too easy. I mean, that's a good answer. A lot of people use that. I mean, they they say specifically which play, but that's a good one. I really blade to the first someone all this shit is on another level. I think just Wesley Snipes went full crazy here. Yeah. I got a huge budget, which is have fallen shit. And they had a really high Indian actress who was like the vampire. Yeah. I'm gonna play to. Okay. All right. Gonna go with passenger fifty seven. I'm going past fifty seven. It is we reviewed it. But is this like, it's the movie is out of control. But it's just so good always bet on black. Let me have quips. That's the best. It is. Yes. In the Star Wars Star Trek for Terry. You might have been some ways that your mental to like just the way he went about it. Because of his love for lily. I it was one of the most tragic story arts of ever read in my life, and our Cousteau form. It's now last. The have definitely house was just phenomenal. I felt that was overlooked performances past few years. It's just such a tragic. It's so well like formed in both the books and movies. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I gotta go back say some real nerd shit. I just jumped in my mind as brand I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. Guys. I'm going dragging bulls e killed by freezes. I. I. If they're vanita is one of my favorite characters of all time. And when he died he was before he died. He was telling Goku about how destroyed his earthly is destroyed this planet and everything. And then. Yeah. And then he starts to cry. The that step that was it. I really felt that character. I love when he screens caca rot. Korat solve set all the. Comic books are hip hop. One. Gotta go in its entirety. You have the snap. Which one? Do you? Choose. Shit. Wow. Wait, wait. Can I get? No this word coast trying to be can I get hip hop in the comic. What? One of the other one of them has to go. Why though who seven you are? And that's the only way you can survive. You've got my hands. That's an answer. You cut off your hand. You would rather not choose. All right. So you're dead. What else? Okay. Have stoves. Oh, man. Come three hip hop. Holy crap. That's that's rough because. Okay. Okay. What us into this audience? At the panel, the pictures, anyway, we're good. I mean this beautiful beautiful beautiful, ROY. I have to say comic books. Yeah. That hurts so bad because of losing as well as takeout myself. This. Okay, because we have Infinity stone. I turn it back. Somebody. Yes. Somebody that commodity. Because if if that's the case, I'm gonna take out using the. Now, we're keeping that in. And finally, you can have anyone superpower. What would it be? I. Meant Neal's powers. Control. Yeah. That's like a just seeing things said that cares. You can do the comets and the movies yet could fell to shit up on that. And a lot of bad day with become a super villain. Anyone through? That'd be that'd be. Okay. So if so I'm going to ask about the world, I because other people have superpowers there is no qualifying here. What do you want to? All right. So other people have superpowers. So I want the ability to absorb people superpowers you wanna be Styler skyline. And if and if I kill him, I keep it. So you both are clearly villains. This outfit. No, no, you kill you. Kill a villain. You suck up a superpower. Now, you got him you stronger. I mean anyone really ill killing villas and take their power. That's still a villain. Just. My medal strip. While you guys have survived the brat segment, which means you have survived for all nurture, please let the audience know where they can find you. You're on social media all that stuff. Well, you guys can find me at Jay Brown. 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Marriage marriage is across the world you and married like, you know, what am I feel like that's a big. In life. You know, and as more and more people are getting getting the the, you know, their their rights to do it. You know, so yeah, you know, but I think you'll be remembered I think there's a few people who for you know, few short. We're only on this planet for very short period of time with the bunch of other people who were on the on it for a short period of time. So, you know, I like to think that, you know, I I've affected some people's lives and more people's positively than negatively, you know, I lived in a house with in in college, and I was everyone's favorite and least favorite room. Imagine. And so. You know, I, you know, you hope that the positive which in the case of Stanley. And I hope with me, we'll we'll outweigh the the negative. Pretty morbid. It really is. Is this what's going to play in my real? Sometimes the futures. Like, he's like let me preface if you playing this shit years now just thinking off the top of my head. I guess I would want to be remembered as somebody who people could rely on somebody who brought something new to your life. Whether it was information, whether it was a different perspective somebody who was always there to listen and always had a always had an unshakable ambition to do things. In would believe in you, even if you didn't see you what what you had in you to believe in. How do I think I'll be remembered probably a little bit of that? Jim Chico says who knows what people don't like about me. But they'll remember it. No, they'll say it cook me on Twitter, please like get all your jokes off. Like, this is what I this is what I would like definitely get all your jokes off. That's fun. As far as forgiving me. I think it depends on what happens while you're still here. Right. So like if there's any issues that I have with people, whether they're reconcilable NADA. Even if I care to reconcile them, then hopefully, those those things will be forgiven or their petty enough that bygones be bygones once I'm gone, but if not then, you know, y'all deal with while or. Until what you people will think of you when they read stories about people losing five thousand dollars. Oh, wow. Yes. I know who will be thinking about. It'll be a universal knowledge. Universal understanding guest. How if e mails? Maybe maybe they will be like a five put me on the five thousand dollar Bill or credit. Yes, I can feed that. Yeah. Five thousand dollars credit card somebody scans and it's for five thousand or more a picture of me. Long story just understand. I felt the same way. Yeah. That's it's that is quite morbid of a question. I like to be remembered as a good person overall. I think I like to think of myself as a good person being myself, someone who helps other people who like believes in people who really dislikes to do Danes because he loves it and likes to see other people doing things because they love it. And beyond that, I don't know. I know that you know, a lot of people feel differently about me. And you know, whatever you're gonna be up on Twitter. I'm right there. You know, have you feel let me know. But man this. I don't think most people are remembered either the way they think they are the way they necessarily want to coalesce. Like, you know, like are around someone, and I feel like, you know, this historical figures here. Yeah. Yeah. Let me know general. Yeah. Let me not you know, how you feel about me right now. Don't wait until I'm gone. You know, tell me right now. Good or bad. Nobody mad at me. You know, just let me know because all that talking about you once you're gone. That's always weird to me to unless you got some good to say, I really don't. And but then there's the other side of that. I also feel that when people are real life them, they have no whatever after they dollar when our current president, you know, wherever he ends up. I'm not gonna have nice things to say about that. Man. Right. You know in the story. There's no way fuck out here. Well, we got him nixed. Let's see we have. Oh, I'll just butcher your name real quick from m g. A bunch of questions. The all right. I like this one which one of Stanley's here. Do you see yourself most as? Are you looking at me question? I feel like all that. There's all four members of the fantastic four represented side of me. Okay. Good. Thank I think that's one of the appealing things about that. You know, sometimes I might identify a little more with Ben Grimm. I figured you'd go four. Figured you would start a lot of lot of similize Leone Reed Richards. Definitely, you know type every now and then who know. No, he can definitely stretch better than me. But you know. Yeah. I'm gonna go with the four sides of the of the fantastic four. Okay. I I would say Peter Parker Nive and so much Spiderman I would say pita Parco 'cause kid growing up in queens into science. I've had better jobs. Save one. Well, actually, technically. Yes, I've had better job. 'cause when he when he got his business that was auto who did it that wasn't him. Keep him. I'm not hating. I'm just saying but had better jobs him, but I've had similar struggles. And I think the one thing about him was that I I never felt like he had advantages of privilege that I could necessarily detect. It was always about him. Just being fuck up being the park, look, whatever. While my luck was rarely been that bad. You know, what I'm saying and job security ever been that bad. And I don't have powers I felt like just like, you know, just being from the same borough Bintu science and dealing with everything you have to deal with in life, while still having to be somebody's hero, a think that something and having the duty and the responsibility to make certain decisions, and and do the right thing. I something I've identified with as a kid, so and I've always gravitated 'cause I was like why do I feel so close to this white man, and it is because of the stories, and I think that's something that Stanley underlying where it's about the stories and connecting with people and treating people equal as opposed to you know, racism and all that other shit, and that that's why that you said could always talk about. And it's my answer is I probably light to be most like silver surfer our galactic. Those are two who cared for his that. I really just feel the most especially with his detached from everything and just above it, all and just a force an HIV, but this detached characters that aren't running around eating planets that that that's part of you know, it comes with the job. You'll be like the watcher who want to I like to. That I like that. Yes. In silver surfer because Norin radd into philosophy and his love with shallow ball and all his whole story. But the character are most probably feel is cyclops and was the one like you said who even though he's white, dude. I never thought of him as privilege. I never even thought cyclops as a white do when I was a kid. He was just got summers. He was dude who I identified with the most because he was shy. He had all this basically power inside. But he had to keep it contained. So he had to chill out and beat his real calm, dude. All the time. And that's why I felt I felt I'll definitely you know, him and Jean grey and their relationship, and how that went was everything identified we're so it's always been about the character. And it wasn't that strat. Was this white, dude? He was just cyclops to me. So that's who I always felt the most. And that is it for walk as extra this week. Thank you for. Sending in your questions. If you have any questions, you can always hit us contact at four all nerds dot com or on Twitter at four all nerds. We will definitely be talking more about Stanley and everything in the weeds to come. But there's some other news we gotta get into before we get out of here tonight. And in some big tech news man, the game awards nominations came down for all the big video games at a year, Chico. You got into red dead redemption. No, all right. So I I have another announce to make later on. But part of part of it is that it's been literally pushed off because I got sucked into the ancient Greek world of assassin's creed odyssey. Yep. Which is on this list as he's got of war, which I played neither of which I actually think the God of war. I know what my problem with. It was like the world was not people'd like. Was a beautiful world line between the dad and the son was cool, but they were sort of running through this empty world that just had people to fight whereas in the assassin's creed stuff and some of these other series, you're really interacted with all these people zero horizon zero dawn from last year, which was like that was like my game of the year for last year. So I feel like well, I haven't played Spiderman, but a lot of people talked about spider man, you being able to interact with with everybody and that and that to me is a very cool thing about a game. Also, I know that that kind of thing is is in red dead, redemption. So I would actually say I thought it says creed origins was like more deserving in war than odyssey odyssey is like our Jin's, but just bigger, but it isn't the leap that Arjun was from from what came before it. So I don't know. I'm a little loath to get into red dead, redemption. Only because I know I'm going to eat to get really frustrated or lose my, you know, lose like months of my life pretty much played it at all yet. But everyone you've played it. I have not I told my posse to come pick me up around yonder in December. To save the city with Spiderman, and then I live my life. Right. Can get December November. Nope. Yeah. Even looking I don't I don't I don't even I I don't I'm not even wearing jeans shirts until. Not worrying any type of hat. I don't wanna see a horse nothing. Yeah. Odyssey. Basically took my you know, my Tober and early November. Yeah, I've gotten into read either for all the same reasons, I famed city was Spiderman I feel young out award. It is not populated. But I think oughta wars story is so ridiculously well told and, you know, the relationship between Crato and his son is just thought me up like Dr war and Spiderman as far as I can remember the first video games, like reduced me to tears where I was sitting there like, whoa, there points Spiderman why I lost it like I can't put it in spider man for those who haven't played them. It's for me. Just the lived in this of the world. Like, it's it's like I mean so for creed. It would I it's mad repetitive. But because you're dealing with different people on different islands of Greece or whatever and and the same with Egypt in in in origins. You get a much bigger, you know, even though you kind of go onto the same mission that you went on like, you know, two hours ago, it's for different person in different like, this topography is different. And also, you know, those have like a historical thing this cool, but even non historical games, I feel like as long as they populate. That was the thing about zero horizon zero dawn was that the world that they created was so dope. But so, yeah, I I was just saying that was for me with God of war was just the fact that you were just running a world and this that dwarf, and then like dude you have to fight and that's. His brother. Right. And that's about it. What about you, Jeff, which one of these? So I've I've haven't played red dead yet played spider man, I played a little bit of God of war. So I haven't really gotten fully into it's like play it. So right now like by default. I think there's a part of me that just refuses to play us Asan creed games anymore because how many times going to hop over fucking roof, Nick. But the world's always intrigued me the world. Always intrigued I don't care there. There may be X amount of ways to skin a cat. But I'm gonna skin the cat in Greece a musket Kennedy Egypt skinny that MS Adonia wherever wherever we gotta go. So that's why always intrigued me. But I don't know if I would get into it like that. So by default, I would say marvel Spiderman with like, you know, still technically the rest of the year to play. But because I'm definitely gonna play read there too. I'm definitely going to war. But Spiderman was I for me. It's that and Arkham night. I have never heard of this Dame Celeste. That's on the list. I'm gonna have to look this up. If anyone out bears played it because it's up for game of the year. Is that Oscar bait dasta Oscar? We we gotta talk about some Oscar bait and the second through but up for game of the year, assassin street odyssey. Celeste which I've never heard of. But I'm gonna look up tonight. God war moral Spiderman computer game. Yeah. Might be most one hundred world and red dead redemption to have played God of war and assassin's creed odyssey. I would definitely say it's going to Spiderman or red dead, redemption too. I love I love God of war. But I- Spiderman to me was like, I was not expecting it. You know, I've much as I knew it was to be like the Batman Arkham series where hours be somewhat at a combat the way Spiderman moves and that F story telling in that game. I was not expecting to twist and turns that game Tate's I- Doma. God. Yes. So Seles is a platform game. Like one of those like XBox live type type games. I'm looking at it. It's like twenty two games on eighties PS four efforts right now. You know what? That means. This shit is fun is fuck that's what it means. Like this. Superfund? All right. I'm Mike cop tonight. Then we'll have to check that out Superfund. Oh, speaking of some Ostra, though, you know, we've been talking about the Astras and everything we've got before all nerds award coming up this year, very soon look out for that. But after coming up, and you know, Black Panther. Of course, we're all rooting for hoping it snags a couple of these awards. I finally got the peop- stars born as night and. I see why people are talking, you know, like certainties after a movie I'm like come on man for real. But a star born star is born to the quality ass flick. And I I feel like Black Panther is gonna have problems, and there's gonna be a lot of blowback and a lot of talk over that. Because a lot of these movies are coming out right now to get these Ostra voters hype to get the votes and stars boring. Bradley Cooper directed. First time to director people are gonna love that singing star lady Gaga doing a great performance. Dave chappelle show's it's a really solid ass flick. And I'm worried for black pamper like I'm she goes like already know what's going to happen. Some of that. I mean, it's also what you said was really real nothing that ever comes out in January ever wins. Because it's already, you know, it's old news, and they put out all the movies in November. And December for reason that are like the OSCE. Ker movies? And I mean, I think the only award that's relevant is Black Panther winning best picture. It's even if it wins like ten technical words, if it doesn't win best picture, and you know, so I I actually do think I don't know. I didn't see a star is born. It's the fourth version of the movie I've seen two of the other ones. I have not seen the Chris Christopherson price AM one from the seventies after they none of them. Yeah. My first time getting the store, and it's like, I didn't even thought the Judy Garland. James Mason, one was corny when I saw one twenty. Class. You know? So I, you know, I don't know. I believe it. I mean, it's like, it's a, you know, it's a good basic story, and it's a tear Jerker. Yep. But I don't know. I mean, it's like, you know. Yeah. When you remake movie fourth time like should that really? But yeah, you know, I guess it doesn't matter. Most people haven't seen, you know. Nobody seeing all all the others. No. I don't know. I'm suspicious like I'll check it out when it comes on cable like I did LA La Land. But I started seeing that, you know. Yeah. It was like, you know, I'm not, you know, there's a lot of other things you could do that two hours. Jeez. It is quite tight. Also I wanted to shout this out petro pass style who everyone knows as Dame. Thrones the sand snake playing himself, right? Yeah. He also is the lead in the first three seasons of or I two definitely of nocco of narcos is. Yes, he did a great job on that has been cast as the lead in the men DeLorean, which is the new Disney Star Wars series which will premiere on Disney's streaming service, which has now been named Disney. Plus. A whack name. Very I mean, so they're not giving dates any of these rights come out in two thousand twenty four. No, no, no, no nets year. But they've listed a bunch of things production already. I mean, assuming they're gonna have the like the old classic. Disney movies, the Pixar movies, all the marvel like all the avengers like all the marvel and the Netflix stuff as well. It's a no brainer. Like, I feel like this channel like you. You have to get this winter. Yeah. I mean Pedro PASCAL as you know, doing aren't they doing what's his face Diego Luna's character? Kassian is and or series Casio. And or from a rogue one, right? So does obviously be a prequel to rogue one. Right. Yes. No spoilers. But. Yeah. Other stuff that I've read, and you know, I know that they cancelled all these Netflix shows. But I do they're coming back. I don't think so even as heroes for hire. Like. All those, you know, I don't know. I mean, come on. Let's be real who really is out there it for Luke cage, Danny ran team. But if you include Colleen wing and misty Knight and you get nightmares back. And then you some of these other, you know. Billy defenders like this that a different. That's a total. More than I liked certainly iron fist one and probably iron-fist to and I did like arms to more than one. Yeah. I like the defenders. I thought the scenes with them like the, you know, the stuff with the heroes was dope. I thought that Sigourney Weaver's dope. The like five different like foul fish year, where no the five different like, you know, gang leaders that came together from different movies. You know, it was like the injustice league of you know. The minor league. You know, but still it's your playing. Fillet injustice league. I mean, look I didn't love but I liked him more than just Cajon season too. I mean, there was a lot. And I guess I'm very alone in this. But I liked it more than punish are. But I loved the punishment when he was on daredevil. I just didn't like his series. I don't really care for series that much either. I haven't finished it. I liked what I saw original in the original. Well, the first seven episodes. I saw I it's ironic for me. I think if all these mass shooting shits weren't going on right? Yeah. It would be way more lit. But it's like almost descend years to what the punisher does. But for what he does. I enjoyed it. I understand why it was called these plus because it's keeping in line with their other services or this ESPN plus services. So they have ESPN plus, and it just makes sense. They didn't want to break the real you. Just call it Disney. Plus, I get it. It's it's not really. But you you could call this shit Foale nerds, and they would have been like we we and Disney's four all nerds. I wonder if they're going to try and actually charge more than you know, like, you know, because now it's creeping up to fifteen on Netflix. No, I remember what it was seven ninety nine. See them charging ten for like the first like an introductory. I would assume. Could then everybody's going what when you get on ten and then a year. Hey, just want to let you know because production we're going to be increasing just just take right? Just take slowly. But I think with the with the library that they're already going to have. It's already worth if you have a kid it's beyond worth it already. And with all these all these original series. It's giving more of an is someone like me is giving me more of an incentive to buy. Because now I will have the original series. I'll know that anything else that out whether it's Netflix or on ABC, especially if it's on ABC that's the next step. If ABC doesn't want a certain series, they'll put it right on Disney. Plus or they'll just create it for Disney. Plus, so it'll be a hub for everybody for all those series to come to come about. And as far as the whole heroes for high whatever, I think, it would be dope. If they did marvel knights marvel knights short just make that the original series and whoever can come in coming. The defenders around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it'll be moon Knight. Doctor strange all of those like all the goals, right and Diego. Luna will have to like multiple jobs because he's ghostwriter. So it's like you have all these characters that are already out and when you have an anthology series. They're all just existing in the world. So you won't you know, it sucks that some of those creative teams may not be able to get back together as they once were. But in terms of the I p in those characters you still have that sustained nice. Yeah. I mean that is the one, you know, I've been peeping titans on the dizzy, the DC service, but business when they drop it over there's no real question there. Their service is out do is a free. No, sir. So like, and how much are they charging? Sure. Yeah. The correct answer. That is correct. That is correct. Actual interests seven ninety nine that is the correct. Yeah. Integrate though, folks moving on weight is the way legends. Tomorrow was great or is titans. Great the way good things are great. Wait. Let's tomorrow is amazing. What have gotten good? But you were hate watching it in the beginning. You definitely I thought it was ridiculous. Utterly ridiculous is isn't ridiculousness while ever titans. I not faithful, alternate comics. But it is a very well done. Translation of the comment that and it's dope. So far they introduced doom patrol last week. A very dope episode. Then latest episode tight Vall finally get together. And it's lit like what else is on the network. Yeah. Yeah. They won't be swamping how they can ask you to pay seventy nine with a straight face when Marvel's putting out like. With all of this. Always do this. New for them, more default hotness. DC says here this is what we got. Faith in DC that they'll be able to put a sustainable young Justice. But are they the rice? Damn the rights Justice the season three three is. But can they even show season one year? Yeah. Of course, they on it. All okay. Bringing that back. That'll be there though, the you'll get all the seasons the unjustice. Well, yeah. Okay. So those are owned by like, they're not owned by Cartoon Network knows our own. Cartoon Network is in the okay their Turner, Warner Brothers all of that. So it's transitional. Yeah. All right. But like I said moving on before we get out of here. You know, it hasn't been that big. But I gotta do a little comics. This week cut that one quick. I can only imagine how long this one is going to. No real quick tomorrow this week when you hear this episode. The new wonder woman series by g willa Wilson is out Maitree pick that up g willa Wilson is the author of miss marvel creator more we're pretty much have been shepherd our character and his now doing the F in wonder woman. So that I cannot wait for have no idea what her take on the care trying to be. But I'm so hype for that also tomorrow bitter root number one by David Walker and shut Brown the artists San for green. You know, friends that are show bitter root is the series from image comics, take place in the nineteen twenties. It's about a family of monster hunters, you know, in the Harlem renaissance who are fighting monsters, and they have to overcome their own family issues to take on this. Great evil, come into them. So Maitree check that out bitter root number one. I haven't been reading too much lately. I finally got to read DC's metal. Series. That ran was at this summer yet. Ran this summer bless, you, you, you you you you never checked it up, but I checked out. Okay. Checked it. I read the whole thing of once like the hype me on it. I didn't get if you're into something. If I utterly ridiculous superhero action. It's good for that. But it just didn't have any weight to it to me felt like all of these horrible beaver happening. But you just nude at the heroes would survive and like, okay, just real and. In work for you in that. Because that's how I felt like like ten minutes or three minutes after I walked out of Infinity. What's no, no? But I mean, it's like the Infinity war ends with them dead. This that they're not gonna be dead for real. Know how and you don't know who's going to die next. Welcome the comics. To infinity. No, it started started later or more recently. But is true. Right. I know, but I think that's a serious problem is that the you know, that they that they bring bring people back you sort of ruin death as as an even had. I don't think I still gonna finish the words still one of my favorite films of the year as one of my favorite moral films because it's the impact of those moments like whether or not they come back from that is one thing whether or not they all come back whether or not other people get killed it doesn't matter to me. It's the fact they're right in there when Bucky dies his last words are Steve right? You know, when brew dies laugh words or dad, you know, it's all these moments. It's Tom Holland fucking performance. Just eat in the screen. So it doesn't matter to me. Like, it's the story. It's the journey. It's not like. Okay. Well, but I know Tom found the movie, of course, he does in the moment. I definitely felt you know like and for three minutes after. By the time you watch it again. No. I haven't seen it again. You, bro? It hit me. And i'm. Said he's Odin son. I thought it was incredible. You know? Yeah. I mean dorky. Actually, a big a big debate that you have like where people feel like what is the permanency of death? Like, I'm gonna keep it real. I'm if I'm a banshee, if I'm fun divert. Sick. I can't come back. Right. More Vel kick. It's like people get your event. Well. Erred marville you'll I'm on the most of set I'm like people get obliterated people grow cancer. Is that permanent like damn? Well, maybe that's also maybe that's something that's like impactful where they like he died of cancer. They don't want to. John Constantine died of cancer like pry, multi chain smoking. Trusted. Definitely during a garden. This run came back back died multiple times. But at least that there's an excuse magic. I'm just saying that it's they, you know, Charlie Brown with the football thing was like there was no chance that superman was gonna be dead. Now, the fact that he wasn't in his own comic for like a year that was, but they also they used to spin off these all these over don't they were they were there, but he came back and a mullet. Really all of these characters came back. That's what happened to the lonely, man. Drops. Yeah. More. Mr. Moore's you already know bribe need you on that mullet on everybody. Even out of hanging out of the back of his. Beads on there, we go. Whoa. Vring can stay dead for like longer than I thought that is true. And then what they cheated by bringing old, man. Logan. The Logan Logan wasn't wasn't around for a while. And I was like damn like, I didn't think I didn't think it was gonna last as long like I haven't read return yet to see how how he actually came back. But I mean, another thing that, and I think this you end up with some of these comics gate assholes or whatever, but like because characters keep getting brought back to life. There aren't that many characters that are created in the last thirty years like holy original characters, even like your miles. Morales is still Spiderman or like impulse is still kid flash. Like, they're not introducing new characters and concepts. I disagree. I do say that there's not many who get the mainstream notice, but with like movies becoming such a thing. And you're seeing more movies made off a random comics. These will become a lot more mainstream and also the collections making it into you know, or. Growing devil. Dinosaur out sells, you know, some superior stuff because those collections are in Barnes and noble and on on and kids are reading them, and they're cleaner such a we talk about, you know, by the comic, so many different independent comics valiant is about to launch their movie universe right here. This was more towards the DC killing bringing people back. I'm one of the problems with it. It's sort of like, we keep electing these same old, congress people senators, and then we, you know, we don't get young people in there, which is what we got in the last election. Like, you gotta keep it. You know, it's a cycle that we always talk about bide from new. Matriarch cops URI sure he just dropped aren't heart is about to come out next week. Sweets from now, what would definitely be talking more on that. So, you know, you just try to keep going for the new stuff and don't always go to the bid to don't go to marvel DC for every comic you buy. And on that note before we get out of comments. I wanted to talk about planetary. It's an old comic. But if one of my favorites ever, and I realized I haven't gushed about a recently on your so it's worn Ellis, and John Cassidy, it's three trades long. They're reprinting the trades right now, and planetary it's only twenty two issues. But to me it is probably for twenty two issues. It's wanted a great of Thomas ever made. It's in my top ten of all time. I try and reread it once a year it's about a team of three. It's blowers who are trying to not try to their absent going into the secret history at a world which contains all these fixtures. So alight relates let's say a lone ranger to Batman and the lone ranger to the spirit and it relates all these different fictions old site. Fitch and movies ghost stories Japanese at Sion, all these different fish and airy worlds into one world. And it's just wanted to illustrate if I've ever read check it out if you ever wanted to read something really quick three trade only twenty two issues. Total planetary is from DC. But it's just something where you can read it. You don't have any other knowledge of any other superheroes. It really helps. If you have knowledge of pop culture like movies, and film, and all this, you know, stuff in general. But if not it's still just an ill ass read. If each is an evil fantastic four just a sick comet check it out when you have a chance S comics I caught, but we do have Chico Leo in here tonight. Who said he had an announcement to make. Pick of the week. Wondering it's have ky-ko's pick it a week. So. There are two competing shows that are on right now about the first manned or human trip to Mars one is on Hulu and stars Sean Penn and had like a huge budget that one is trash. And Sean Penn is really try. Go on National Geographic that's half documentary half like original story, and it's just called Mars, and it starts out with literally the ship with like the first six people going there. And the first season is only six episodes in the second season just started. If you have like on demand. I don't know if the first season streaming on on any services, but I you know, my regular, you know, spectrum cable has National Geographic on on demand. Anyway, it's actually really good. And it takes you through like, we're at the point where like a corporation has now land let you know, you know, like, they've got a settlement. There's been several more groups of people who've come it's bigger, but there's also half of each episode is actually documentary with interviewing like, Elon Musk and Neil degrasse Tyson and like, astronauts and stuff like that. Anyway, the drama stuff some of it falls flat or as corny. But the combination of the whole thing is really dope. And you know, it's it's not pretentious. That's the problem with the Hulu one is wildly pretentious. One's better acted and prize better cinematography as better acted. I mean, better better directed all of that stuff. But this this one is definitely it's it's more less pretentious. It's more straightforward. And it's telling dope story, and it really is. That is the next frontier at some point where either going to die on this planet or go to Mars. So, you know, a, right. Yeah. I know. Checking out never watched anything on the National Geographic channel we got. Some really good documentaries. I believe obviously measures gravity better from God damn good, Huck mentors. But I believe that they could put off documentary, and I say, I'm sure to drama might not. But it's only. No the second season is just start. I mean, this is not comparable to like some history. Jane lifetime hour long thing on the Vikings or whatever they have lack reenactments dude swinging axes. No, this is the real deal real actors and actresses that are really good. And it's like international and they get into all the different nitty gritty things of like having someone having people putting people on Mars and. It just it covers all the angles. I just think it's a really good. It would make you know, if the kind of thing we were like, oh that would make a really good TV series. All right. Mars on national Jude ref ours on National Geographic. I mean, I'll still try. I always try and pull something that's a little, you know, out there out of the blue that you, but I think I think people would definitely like it. I mean, it's, you know at its core like lost or dead was about forming a society, I've been peeping Sabrina two teenage witch on that flex which is. So the first two they're coming out with the Christmas. Apparently, I heard the last episode is one of the best episode of TV this year. Right. So I'm waiting to get to that. It's been you know school. It's it's different. I watched the first episode of Riverdale. But I couldn't get into it. 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Episode 358 - Are We Living In A Simulated World?

Ross Patterson Revolution!

1:03:57 hr | 2 years ago

Episode 358 - Are We Living In A Simulated World?

"It. Gentlemen. Oh, come to the rocks. Patters? By black rifle coffee dot com. It happens put it out in the universe. And it happens the simulation. Hypothesis was something we were talking about a few episodes ago. And I end up ordering the book after reading the article, and then I reached out to the author. Rizwan Virk and said, hey, I'd love you to come on Ross Patterson revolution and chat about the possibility that we are living in a simulated world, some some people controversial, I don't I just I like taking a look at things from other perspectives and seeing if they're possible, I'm not I'm not here to shit on anybody's religion or or anybody's belief system. I just want to see things or possible. So I reached out soom, and he came on the show and the dude is awesome, by the way, super cool. Crazy crazy interesting backgrounds and felt lucky to have him on the show today. But I also felt. Nervous. 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'cause I read an article about your book, the simulation hypothesis, and then I ordered through Amazon, and it came to my house in less than thirty six hours, which is amazing and we'll get to that in a second. But I read this article on your book, and I was like man, I've got to read this book. And then see if I can get him on the show, and I reached out to you, and you got back to me right away. So thank you for being here. I greatly. Appreciate it. Yeah. You're welcome. Thanks for having me out, of course. Yeah. Because look your new book is called the simulation hypothesis, and to me, this is one of the most fascinating, topics. Or or hypothesis if you will that is kind of floating outs in the air today. I'm gonna full disclosure. I wouldn't have even considered this as something real entertained. The fact that we might be living in a simulated world if it wasn't for Elon Musk. Right. Yeah. So musk, you know, made a big deal a couple years ago when he was at the code conference, and you know, he made the point which is the video game version of the simulation. I bought this. And there's a bunch of different versions of the argument, which we can talk about later, but you know, he made the point that forty years ago, we had Peng as the first widely available video game it was made by Atari Nolan Bushnell and company right here in Silicon Valley, which is where I am at the moment. And that was basically two two two lines in dot moving back and forth across the screen. Right. And he says that in forty years, we've come to create full immersive three d virtual world and MMORPG's like World War craft four-night where will we be in another forty years or hundred years and with the rate of advancement video games. And that's a lot of what I've been doing. For the past ten years is is building video games and teaching about video games at MIT and investing video game companies. You look at that technology and how fast it's dancing pretty soon. It'll be indistinguishable from reality. And we on musk is one of the most high profile supporters of this theory. Before him. You know, you can go back to the matrix, obviously and things like that. And it's a fun movie script, you know, but it is really hard to wrap your brain around the possibility that we might be living in simulated world, especially with religion so prevalence in none of our nation's history. But every nation's history there's some form of of religion behind. It's essentially if we are living in a simulated world, this almost knocks out the fact that maybe there is one God. Would you say that's correct? Well, not necessarily. So I was implying that there's different versions of the humiliation hypotheses, and I think that, you know, in the most kind of technological fines oriented version, we are basically a or simulated characters, you know, within a simulated universe on somebody's computer. The big question being who's that? Somebody. Cuter? To spin up new world, you just need to have more computing power. And you know, when the matrix came out, this whole idea was pretty much in assigns fiction. And, but if you look at the matrix version of of the simulation hypothesis in that, I mean, there are a on is or NPC's we call them in video game world, there's PC's player characters and NPC's non-political. There's who are like the, you know, the guys that are helping you along the way, you know, inside the role playing game, but they're controlled by the computer, which groups that are set up before him. And in the matrix, you know, Nieto's played by canneries takes the very famous scene taking the red pill for the blue Bill from morpheus by Laurence Fishburne, and he wakes up to Israel, physical self outside relation outside the matrix. So in that version of the video game humilation hypothesis we actually exist outside of the video game. And we are. Trolling are characters. Now, if you remember in the matrix, they had this wire that was connected into his his Neo cortex. Probably why they call them Neo now. And they were able to beam the signal directly in there any forgot about the physical world. So, you know, in as you look at different religions, and so about a third of my book is about the technology. We would need to build a matrix ourselves. And it goes over some of the arguments out there about a third is about some of the weird findings in quantum physics. And then about a third is about looking at the the different religions of the world and seeing how actually the same relation hypothesis. Maybe a better underlying description for what they have been telling us all along that maybe we have a soul that is outside this world that comes into the body at birth and lease debt now, depending on which religion, you subscribe to in the eastern version NASO comes back again in gets reincarnated into another body, which is kind of like playing multiple video game characters, right? Yeah. So it's a question of, you know, one of the reasons I think this is a fascinating topic is it's one of the few framework, and you know, when I was studying computer science at MIT, my professors would always tell me that you know, what we call science is really a set of models and how we model approximate the real world. And if those models are useful, they can help us kind of figure out how things work, and so this is one of the few models that I think people in the science world can buy into 'em people in the religious world can buy into because a lot of religions are telling us that this. This physical world is temporary. And what we do here is being watched which is not unlike what happens with video games today when we have east sports matches. I don't know if you're if you've seen any competitive Ideo games, pretty big businesses. You even Vienna's televising it now. I mean, that's right. Yeah. It's become really big business. Yeah. I think the team that won legal edge. One more money than team that won the Super Bowl. I mean, and that ninja guy he is just raking in money. That's right. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I remember we were talking to his agent one of my stars. So. Yeah. Well, I think it was represented agency. And you know, he gets a lot of money doing -dorsements now just like. Would. Yeah, we try to get him for something. And the quote that they came back with was astronomical. And I was like this guy. Just plays video games. Right. Yeah. But you don't understand his beloved around the world. Now is like oh, man. How do I tell my kids not to play video games when I know how much money? This guy's making is is the hard part that I'm going to have to live with. That's very true. Well, so we need sports not only are people watching the game. But we're recording the key plays. And then they're showing highlights of it. Right. So it's like this three dimensional recording. And I was involved in a start up a few years ago where we would take a recording of say, you know, these two plays inside like league of legends or counter strike, global offensive or your shooting in character. And we would basically record it not on a two screen, but in three D, so you could put on a virtual reality headset, and you could feel you were inside the game and watch these characters like to your left into your, right? And so, you know, they provide an interesting metaphor for how we can record what's happening and review those deeds. And it's kind of like what the religions have been telling us all along is that score being kept based upon what we do here. So so depending on your your your inclination. I mean, I've had people who are religious who buy into it and people that are typical. To it. And then I've had the opposite. Right. Some people too far on that side. I'm like, no. That's too much religion about this. Can't be true. I'm not even gonna talk about it and same thing on the other side. I'm one of those people like I can open my mind to all kinds of things including this which look for most people I would say ninety five percent of people. They would have a hard time trying to accept something. Like this that we're living in some form of simulation to me personally. I look around at certain things that either I've done or that are happening in the world or awful things that are happening. And I was like man, I really hope this is a simulation at this point. Because this shouldn't be going on. I wouldn't do this. That kind of where you got started with it. Or was it just purely video games and then going off of that model? Well, for me, it was, you know, a lot of science fiction and a lot of video games, you know. So when I was a kid I used to play Atari video games. And I would you know look at like a racing game. And I'd see the car going around the track. And I'd wonder you know, what was over the horizon like there would be these virtual characters in the Bleacher. And I'd wonder well is there a city back there forest and start to really ask myself these questions about what was going on inside the game when I wasn't playing and of course, back down. I didn't know how to build video game. So it was all this speculation. But then as I became a computer programmer and later video game entrepreneur, I really started understand. You know, how these video games are built. And then I was watching a lot of star treks. You know, I don't know if you're familiar with the next generation episode holiday. It was one where the data was playing Sherlock Holmes. And the computer was supposed to make the opponent, very smart and he made professor moriarty's Sherlock, Holmes big nemesis. So smart that he figured out some of the people in this holiday were not holiday characters they existed outside of that relation. And he wanted to get out of there to see what was there? But of course, you couldn't because he was a hologram being projected inside the simulation. I started to think about things like that. But it wasn't until you know, more recently a couple years ago in virtual reality became really big that I started to delve into it. And I was playing a ping pong game in VR where had on the vibe goggles and the controller, and I could see the table and the reactions were so realistic that I felt like everytime I swung. My paddle actually hitting the ball and the ball would go to the right place and the opponent would hit back. It was so realistic, buddy. End of it. I decided to put the paddle down on the table. And I leaned against the table. But of course, there was no tape. So the paddle controller which fell to the floor, and I almost fell over. But that's how realistic it was. And it wasn't just about resolution, which is the point that he was making. It was also about reactions like that wasn't even a very realistic opponent. But I still felt like I was really there. And then I'd had another experience where I was inside a crypt with a giant crevasse to my left with glasses on. And I found that I couldn't like move my foot to the left because I was worried I'd fall down. Again, wasn't there via room, but that really got me thinking on then I started to do some research on this author. Professor Regan talk about him in a minute and his Malaysian argument. But that that kinda got me into looking into into this. And I'd always been interested in consciousness, and how we perceive things as well. Let me ask you this USA prize. How quickly this kind of took off. I mean, I I felt this article about your book on drudge report which never happened. Yeah. I was actually surprised at that. I didn't I didn't realize that drudge report had an article. But I think what happened was I did a couple of interviews more with tech, you know, online tech blogs, his that was where I thought the interest would be. And then suddenly they got picked up by a bunch of different places around the world that I didn't expect like, maxim, right? Magazine that I would have expected to to write about simulation theory. But and so, you know, when people when one of the articles asked me, well, what do you think the percentages that were living in assimilation? I said, well, you can't really say for sure I mean, we're all guessing here. Right. But you know, the reason I wrote the book and part of the exercise in the book is how would we build a matrix? So if we could actually build something like the matrix, then it's possible that someone has already built it. And I go through like ten or twelve stages that we need to go through and starting with text adventure games, which we had you know, back in the eighties and tutti adventure games. Getting to today's three games VR and a are. But we're about fifty percent of the way there. And so, you know, my guess is in another fifty to one hundred years maybe two hundred maximum we could get there. But you know, I tend to think it's more likely than not that we're in any simulated. Or computational based university. That's actually one of the things the book beyond, you know, the video game idea because you know, some people are like, hey, I living in no damn. Mario brothers game. It's that the physical universe actually has computation and information as basis, and so I said because you know, I've kind of looked into this and thought about this. I think it's more likely than not. So the present I would put you know, Alon musk says it's ninety nine point nine nine nine percent. He said it's billions to one. The one I think you said, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I say somewhere between fifty percent and a hundred percent. And I think what the different press sites picked up on. And that's the article spread pretty quickly. But yeah, I was pretty surprised that it spreads. Oh quickly 'cause tends to be an area where certain people are interested in it. And other people may not want to think about. Here's the thing that I will say today's society science itself has become sexy because of its figures you have a guy like Elon Musk who's out there. And I don't care what what everybody says about him. He comes off as a really cool guy. I don't know if you know him in real life or not. But in his interviews the way, he talks his Twitter. Like, it just seems like a cool guy that he's not, you know, buried away. I listen to some of your interviews on other shows and radio shows and all that stuff. You're a really cool. Interesting fascinating guy. Neil degrasse Tyson sciences. It has changed from the figures that are out in public versus what we thought of it, you know, maybe ten years ago. Would you say that's a fair assessment? Probably fair Desmond. I mean, ten years ago twenty years ago it science and technology in general has also gotten very cool. And I think more integrated into our lives, you know. I mean, they were always, you know, people that like to play video games. But now like you said with your kids my nephews and so much time playing fortnight's games. Like that that, you know, it's become really a part of everyday life. So technology isn't something separate whereas before it was. Oh, yeah. That's the thing though. Geeks build now, it's something that everybody uses and his aware of and I think, you know, between guys like on musk and usage of Facebook. And apple and all that it it has become much more popular much, more integrated. I think. Video games in particular when you're playing for money on TV on ESPN in it's considered a sport now. And it's you know, it's got his own separate category. East sports. To anybody out there who was like, oh, man. I played video games. And I was on cooled. No now, you're the cool ones. And I mean, they dollars these these kids are making off of twitch and everything else. And we talked about ninja earlier. It's it it gets you rethinking, what's cool, and what's you know, popular today. So it's incredibly fascinating. Also the way he wrote this book is fascinating. Because look for an MIT scientists, you would expect this to be a clinical diagnosis of the simulation. Hypothesis all the way through the way, you wrote it though was very grounded in easy for somebody like myself to pick up and understand most of the jargon. What was happening in the book, which I really enjoyed about your book. Yeah. I mean, my goal was to provide seem elation hypothesis, but to provide enough references to popular culture and designs fiction, which is a lot of what got me interested in this in the first place and use those examples when my talk about the technology, and hopefully tied to things we've heard about I mean, one of the stages, you know, is after virtual reality. And augmented reality is is idea of light field displays it's kind of an arcane subject in in in holograms. But really it's kind of like creating the Princess laya hologram from Star Wars, but being able to have a hologram that you can look at from all sides and with three printers, which is something that, you know, the most people have heard about now there you can use three D printers to print. There was a model of out and Martin and the latest JAMES BOND movie that was printed with the three D printer some guys in Israel printed a one third scale. Model of a heart with actual blood vessels using cells. So what that means is what we think of is physical objects are actually can be represented as information, and that's what drives three D printers. And that's what drives the physical world being able to be Representative three d models in video games. And so my goal was to kinda show. How that touches things. We may already be familiar with and this isn't such a crazy idea or so far out there as some people. I think when they hear that like, you know, I'm not like I said earlier, I'm not in a damn Mario brothers game. What are you talking about? The Amazon just banned book where somebody was was giving you the step by step process of how to build a three gun. Thrives down. And if you can build guns and cars, congratulations. I mean, we're they're really close. Kinda reminds me of Westworld enough you've seen. You know, the beginning they show these three D printers, printing, these bones and tissue in today's three printers. Generally speaking, you use one material but over time, you can see how more sophisticated three d printers can print using any material. And then now you're on your way to building star Trek's replicator is right. You know, they would say, you know, the card with the Earl grey hot that it would appear and that's because you can represent the Cup and the contents of the tea as information, and then you figure out what molecules us. In fact, a lot of what we think of biology at its core. Indeed, what is DNA people look into DNA realize it's really very compact structure for storing information, you know, about the biological organism that that DNA's four, and it's a very efficient mechanism. And there was a it was a famous physicist named John Wheeler who plays role in a lot of experiments. I talked about in the book and his students came. Up with parallel universe theories and stuff like that. But he says he was one of the guys to work with hindsight line and some of these other famous physicist he said physics in his lifetime. I think he passed away eighties. Went through three phases. In the first phase, everything was followed. It was an object like the planets moving around and continuous objects. Everything was a particle in the second phase Quant, they discovered quantum mechanics and realize that there was a lot of probabilities. Everything was a field of probabilities, and then in the third phase, he realized that everything was actually information, and he had a phrase that he used called it from bit it being a physical object. But being the information he's and physics when they keep looking, you know, smaller and smaller for matter. They can't find it right matters. Mostly ninety nine point nine nine nine nine percent empty space. And they look in the atom and look at the particle where is the physical object. It can't really seem to find one. And so he concluded it was just information bits of information down at the bottom. And I think that that is you know, what the simulation hypothesis is really about is that everything around us is information constructed reality. So limiting what do you think? What's your? What's your guests? There's somebody behind the computer in ourselves in the future. What what do you think that your personal belief of of what what is actually going on in this world? Well, so there's there's different versions in one of the, you know, really things that drove discussion of his academia was an Oxford professor, Nick Bostrom, and he wrote a paper two thousand three are you living in a computer simulation and his world. He said that once civilizations got advanced and in in my book, I call it the civilization say the simulation point at which they can construct a highly realistic simulated like this that they would wanna run ancestor simulations, and those ancestors relations would have lots of simulated beings. And in his his point is argument, which has come to be known as Malaysian argument was there would be way more simulated beings than real beings in that quote, unquote, physical world. Therefore, if you are a being you're more likely to be one of those one of those simple. Probability? But in his version, it was kind of like future humans running simulations of their ancestors. And they were mostly a is the simulation argument kinda implies that we're not necessarily players outside the game. I tend to take the other view personally, you know, I've studied a lot of different religious traditions. And I wouldn't say that I'm particularly religious. But you know, I've said a lot of the mystical traditions. A lot of the Buddhist monks who have really looked into consciousness thousands of years, and they use the metaphor of the dream. And you know, when I thought about this metaphor of the dream. So they use it to help you wake up inside a dream and realize that dream isn't real that it's simulated if you will. And there's another use leaving in bed outside the dream. And if you can figure that out if you can realize that theoretically when you're away you can also realize that there's another part of you outside of this reading like world, which is the metaphor that the us the process. Dream yoga. So I've spent a lot of time with those traditions. And so I tend to be more along the lines that we are players of a video game. And that whoever whatever is running the video game. It's it's some version of us. Now, there's lots of different theories could be aliens could be you know, in the matrix. They were super intelligent machines who are running the major they needed to run the matrix to keep the humans occupied right on. This was all revealed like in the you know, within the matrix sequels. And if that one thing people don't don't necessarily relies that they say the first version of the matrix created was where everything was great the blissful existence in humans fail to to accept that as real as a real possibility until they had to add, you know, more realistic elements and make the same elation not so great 'cause people say, well, this is the same relation in wide. My life crappier. That was going to be my next question. Because a lot of people would ask that of like men, why am I so stressed out today stimulation, and I'm controlling myself myself would make me really happy super rich today. Right making true era. Probably the most common comment. Well, it depends on the nature of the game. Like, I said earlier like with the matrix if the game is has no challenges, then it's not much of a game. You're going to get bored with it really quickly. And so if you think of a lot of role playing games today, you choose a character. And this goes back to even before video games. Like it goes back to dragons. Right. You would choose a character. And you have different attributes like strength with them, teller, charisma, whatever the the attributes were you might be an L for dwarf for thief, human, and your character would have different strengths and weaknesses. And so in video games today. We have the idea of quests and teammates. And that's what guides you. To the room where the game is you have to, you know, you know, go get the pressure from the map for the goblin king. And if you didn't have those chievements quest the game would get really old and really boring quickly there. There have been games like second life, which is a virtual world, you know, from like about ten years ago. It was pretty popular. And you know, it launched around the same time as world of warcraft, and it never ended up being anywhere near as popular as World War. I haven't one of the reasons why it was a little too open ended like you could go in there and do anything, but people didn't know what to do with himself. Once they got in there, but you could live a whole virtual life. Get married you have property houses virtual world, but coming back to the idea of question. Gee, I tend to think that it's kind of like that. And this is where it ties to some of the at least the eastern religious traditions where we create quests and things for ourselves, and they call it karma. And they keep track of it somewhere. Outside of the physical rendered world. Where is it stored cloud servers, perhaps technologist and engineer I like to know how these things work. My that's my biggest difficulty in trying to wrap mind around all of this is how does it work? And where does it go? You know? Right. And that's why I like to use the phrase the rendered world. And so you know, that becomes a way for people to kind of understand that like when your individual game, the pixels are rendered on your screen, or if you're in VR headset, you see it there. But then there's things that the characters inside the game. Can't see. Right. You might have your score. You might bring up your inventory than his list of things you might bring up your friends list. They're all these things that you. We can see what's often called a, HUD or heads up display. You know within the video game world that are outside the rendered world and the characters can't necessarily see them. And I think that's the core of this idea is that we live in a world has three D pixels. And I wondered about this, you know, whether there is a a smallest Quanta of physical world, and there's back in college. We used to we used to talk about. The Xenos paradoxes, and if you've heard of that, but no you're much smarter than I. And that that's the reasons. Yes. Jesse's not here today. She was like, I cannot even talk to a human this, smart and my life. My wife can barely use a computer. She was like you do you have to take this one talking? Yeah. Well, you know was a Greek philosopher, and he had a bunch of different paradoxes. But probably the most famous one is with achilles a tortoise. And and and he said that if if the tortoise was the head of achilles achilles has to get halfway to the tortoise right before he can reach him overtaking. Right. And then you have to get halfway again. And then you have to get halfway again. So no matter how small distance gets. He still has always get halfway. So never actually how can you ever actually reach the door? If he's always going halfway now, you know, there's a bunch of different resolutions this paradox. But one of them is that there are some minimum distance below which you can't go halfway anymore. You have to basically cross it. And in physics. They refer to the plank linked after plank who's one of the pioneers in physics, which is the smallest distance. You can actually measure anything below that. It's like quantum foam. And you can't really say, what's. There. And so that is almost like a pixel, you know, what does the pixel on the screen? You probably have a MAC or a PC, and it has fourteen hundred by twelve hundred resolution or whatever. That's right. So pixel is the mid the minimum amount of space within that. And then usually what shows up in that pixel comes from some information in memory. And so, you know, in memory, I would say this is RGB color of this pixel in that pixel and some people made the argument. Well, it would take way too many pixels way too much information to simulate the entire physical universe therefore season at this can't be right. Like, that's one of the popular arguments out there. Well, you'll you rarely ever hear a computer scientists saying that because back in the eighties. If you were to ask people can you render four night on a Commodore sixty four, and there's no there's not enough processing power, but history of video games and history of computer science is all about Optima. Position. How do you authorize? You know, even like, you know, we watch we stream game of thrones one episode of game of thrones is way too many bills to be transferred over wireless connection. But I can do it. Why can I do it because we compress optimize? I'm with you on that. Because like, I don't I don't buy into that that theory at all because. Yeah, if you can if you can shoot game of thrones across the world to fifteen billion people, or however, many people are watching that thing, and it doesn't crash HBO. I'm pretty sure that somebody could figure out how to build a simulated world. Right. Exactly. Because it's all about optimization. I mean, if you're in a game of thrones in you're in the north north of the wall half the pixel white, there's no right? So you don't need to have them all rendered and turns out the first three eighty perspective game that was really popular with doom back in the nineties. And that was the first game where you could actually kinda see from the perspective of the the shooter. I you could see the gun, and if he moved to the left or right all the pixels shift to the left, and right, and they did a lot of optimization techniques to make that happen. But really, the basic idea is you only render those pixels that can be seen from a particular point of view. So if you're thinking or you don't have to see his back or you're seeing a giant have. Only have to see the pictures in the front, and then you you can optimize all of those. And that's what video games have all been all about is optimize that stuff. And so I think we were talking about talking about pixels, and is the world pixellated into even physicists think that it is. Now, the second question is is there a time minimum time picks like in a in a video game or any computer simulation? You have this idea of clock speed. You know, you have your so many megahertz or gigahertz processors and how many billions of transactions they can do per second. But really there's a minimum amount of clock speed. And if I'm running a simulation of say, fruit flies on my computer. You know, the the might be one step per year every time they regenerate. Now, there's a million of them. Now, there's only a million have died two million. But each of those is like one step and that has to be some multiple of the clock speed. Because that's the smallest amount of time that. Pewter processor this EP or the EV can actually work with. And so we don't know yet. If there's a minimum point of time, but many physicists are starting to suspect. There might be because base timer so well correlated. And so they came up with the plank time, which is how long it takes the speed of light to to to go the length of that little plank link, and then, you know, the speed of light is fundamental. Like, that's the one thing that doesn't change time changes distant changes, if you're going really fast like you may have heard of that astronaut God Kelly. I think his name was went up for a year his twin was down here and he came back, and he was like a couple of minutes younger than his twin relativistic time effect. So, but you know, why the only confident in our universe. The speed of light for the speed of traumatic ways if you and I are playing for night. Guess what the speed is that we're sending information back and forth that exact said exacting speed. So there's a lot of suggestions, I would say within the physical sciences as well that you know, that that our world may not be physical as we think Eileen more and more towards it every day. It's not that popular to say in public. Literally, everyone looks at you like, you're crazy. You're right. I think maybe why the story, you know, the article you read on drudge report probably caught on is. Because it's not that popular to say. Even though there are people that have been saying for a while. But I think it's in the consciousness now video games are understood. But when we talk about the simulation in the book, I called the great simulation. Which is where we think of as our physical world that is to today's video games. What today's games like four nine World War of our two pacman? There's just an order of magnitude difference in complexity and the number of people that are playing. There was a video game made a couple of years ago. No man's sky. I don't know if you you heard of it, but it was popular because it had one of the biggest virtual world they had eighteen Quintin planets. Now, I'm sure the team that made it didn't sit there and create all the, you know, look and feel of eighteen Quintin planets. There's no way they could they use something called procedural generation, which is a lot like frac lower. So that, you know, which is a lot of what if you wanna reproduce? What leaves look like or coastlines video game you use these kind of others because they're very similar to how nature is creating things in geometry's that are very rarely straight line right there. No coastlines in the world that a straight line. So 'cause they're all crooked. And then if he's Uhm in you, see there's little and crannies underneath that. And the guy who came up with a lot of Franco stuff with a guy named abroad. And he said if you have to question how long is the coastline? It really depends on what scale you measure it. So there's a lot of evidence that computation is going on in the physical world, even with, you know, natural things like host lines leaves and veins and arteries based upon them informational template. So it's not as. Crazy as it sounds at first. But you're right people do kind of look at you strange, and I've gotten all types, right? I've gotten you know, religious types that got really upset anything. This is not what I said what the hell you talking about. I look at it. Like this. The the bible was rewritten a million times and a lot of it. A lot of religion to me is mostly for to to gain some monetary benefits for whoever's in charge of of what it is. I'm not saying that there isn't a God. Or whatever God everybody believes in is is is not real or incorrect, because frankly, we don't know. That's why I'm also willing to entertain the simulation. Hypothesis Israel is because I'm not dead. I don't know what happens, and I don't know if I'm going to get that answer when I die. But until then I'd like to keep an open mind about everything that's going on in the universe. And just assume that anything is possible. Right. Yeah. And you know, I actually met and interviewed people that have had near death experiences. And you know, they actually we're dead for a little, and, you know, sometimes they will tell interesting stories, but one of the very common things there was a guy named Daniel Brinkley wrote a book called saved by the light back in the nineties who I know, and he was struck by lightning and was dead for like twenty minutes, you know, back in the seventies. And one of the things that he said was that he saw what he calls a life review where he had to go back over the things that he did in his life. But he was he called it a panoramic three hundred sixty degree live review. So he would see if he shot someone he would see it from the point of view of the other person. And I think a lot like the virtual camera that we used in when I was earlier talking about how we record Eastport games. We put the virtual camera somewhere in the virtual world, you could actually be the other character the character, you're shooting. And so if that's what they say they saw. Somebody must have recorded it somewhere, and where is this recording? And it just sounds more and more like, you know, this idea of virtual video game reality. So so I really do keep an open mind. And I don't think we can rule out a lot of stuff, but there is evidence that sometimes a lot of willing nor that there are things going on and consciousness that we can't explain with a physical model of the universe. But these things start to make more sense when we think of it as a virtual or computer generated world, and I remember my brother, I don't know if I've ever told the story in the show before, but my stepbrother was in a coma for a while like a really long time almost a month. They gave him like a five percent chance to live. And then he ended up waking up and coming back to life, essentially, right? And in the room. There was some family members in there. But then he was also pointing out, you know, maybe eight to ten other relatives that were deceased that were not there, and he couldn't. Understand. Why no one else could see them in the room. And he was like, you know, they're angels. I don't understand why you can't see so. And so and so and so and he named it off clear day like it was like they were all inside the room. So when you talk about 'cause I I've been fascinated this for a while when you talk about people who've died for a couple minutes or thirty seconds and brought back to life or the guy you were talking about who is dead for twenty minutes. I wonder where it is where you are where your mind is or where your your spirit is during that time period when you're away, and what caused you to see like you were saying the people in three sixty if you got shot and the other things like that or relatives. Because a lot of people bring up dead relatives as well. I wonder what that is. Yeah, you're right. And a lot of people do bring up, you know, relatives die and sometimes people will see in dreams, you know, the moment somebody dies, they'll see relative in a dream that night, even though that person might be halfway across the world. And I find that when you think about lots of these unexplained phenomena that if you think of the world is in the simulation rather than a physical world, and that consciousness can be downloaded or uploaded. I mean, one of the popular topics value. These days is can we download our consciousness to silicon device. Can we leave it there? But you're the religions have been telling us all along that our consciousness gets downloaded into the physical body, and it gets uploaded out of it. So it's a kind of wave of information. And then where does that go, and what gets rendered, you know, different people can see different things because in a video game. Like if you and I are playing and we're in the same scene. There's no shared rendering of that scene that my computers. Rendering it in your computer is rendering. And this is the trick using video games. All the time. We would send information to one player, but not to another player like depending on their level. We might you know, they could see something seem the other guy. Can't see it just wouldn't be rendered on their their laptop for the guy that couldn't see it. So this ID of being able to see things that aren't there? You know? Even quantum physics is starting to recognize that there may not be just one reality. There was a article might technology review about physics experiment done where they had like six and tangled particles one guy was looking at it in one place in other guy was looking at them somewhere else. And it was proposed by physicist called the wigging years ago. But they couldn't do the experiment back then and they found they saw a different set of quantum probabilities. So it was almost like two observers were observing slightly different realities with the same that particles, and then other kind of scientifically proven that we maybe think slightly different things. But, but I think in your example, the dead relatives that gets back to these are players. Who are being communicated? They're communicating with the character in the game. That would be possible explanation for how that works. You know? Look, again, it's so much to wrap your mind around that you're like, wow. I I could be high one of those Silicon Valley parties have you gone to any of those by the way. You know, the crazy like microdosing parties and like the sex parties out in Silicon Valley. I haven't heard of those. But no, I haven't been. You know, I get the fence that that is a lot of younger people in their twenties. Gotcha. Gotcha. I heard I had heard on musk and those guys gone, and it was kind of a place to microdosing acid has become popular again much. Like, it wasn't the sixties and one of the things that they sit around and talk about these possible, hypotheses and. Other beings. And are we here alone and all that other stuff, and I wondered if you've ever gone to anything like that discusses with people? Yeah. I have it. But certainly had those discussions with people. Enclosed is what you're saying super environment. Now, they're you know, what I like about this relation. I Bob is is that you can have discussions of things that people used to only have when they're high. Yeah. Now, you serious academics. And scientists who are willing to discuss it and about it. Look, I read your book Subir, which is which is the first for me. Nobody again, it's so fascinating. And you're right. Like these are things like in the sixties like man this. This would be a book written on acid today. It's not. This is a real possibility, you're an esteemed scientists, and and it's a crazy thing. One more big question here before we shift into a couple other things you do because you're one of the most fascinating people. I think on the planet is if if all of this is real, and you know, you're living in a simulation. Right. What's what's to stop people who were living miserable lives from killing themselves. Route you asked that question in a related question is we don't kill other people. Right. If it's video game. Right. You know, there's no consequences, and we're not saying by saying that it's a simulated reality nothing. There aren't any consequences. I mean, if you're playing video game, it's pretty important understand. What are the rules of that game? And what are the goals of your character in that game right in in a game? Like CS go you're trying to shoot and kill other players. That's the point of the games. Yeah. A lot of games like that. But in the SIMS, right? That's not the point. And you're not gonna get points. Right that and so it really depends on the nature of the simulation. You know, we can't say for hundred thirty what the point is some people say, well is it as relation to figure out if we're going to destroy ourselves as a civilization or destroy the planet or something completely different. So as part of my research for this book, one of the people that I interviewed was Tessa be dick who is the wife of Philip k dick fishing writer and his work has gotten immensely popular after he died two blade runner and the man in the high castle. Starting to come through essentially, if feels like -actly. Exactly. That's right. And so when I her, you know, about what would he think about this idea? And she said, yeah, I mean, he believed that the matrix was closer to reality. The not and he actually remembered other timelines, so he had a speech in nineteen seventy seven at we're in a computer generated reality, and people are tweaking the parameters and changing things and the only clue we have that something has changed. Sometimes I have a feeling of deja vu. Remember something from the other time line. He wrote a book story called digest -ment team, which was made into movie with Matt Damon years ago, the desma bureau, but in the original story a guy stumbled into the office, and he finds that everybody's frozen and that there's some adjusters there who are changing people's memories and moving things around, and he felt that that it actually happened him. And according to his wife, he remembered a time line where the access powers, Germany and Japan one World War Two. And he remembered our time line where you know, obviously, the allies one World War Two, and he's had that whoever was running the simulation. We wound the relation, and then re ran it to see if they would get different results, and that's part of the relation whoever's running it is they would change the same relation. I mean, he said he they told him they try to avoid this ask nation of JFK right now. But every time they change the same relation. He would get assassinated somewhere else. They gave up or lead to undesirable results, which they didn't want. So I mean, it's a big question as to what the purpose and goals are of the simulation. But you know, there's another MIT professor magnetic who's a physicist, and he was asked about this. And he goes, well, just make your life interesting. So the simulators don't shut you town, right? That's what I'm trying to do every day. At least that's what I'm telling myself. If you're interesting enough for us, you're gonna live forever, which is not true. Download yourself your silicon device right? Or you chop your head off like Walt Disney, you know, and just keep it keep it frozen. And then bring yourself back. Here's the thing though. I don't wanna bring back old head of myself. I want the younger like sweet version of myself, not the old right chop. Avatar that's healthy. Young and vibrant, and like able to do stuff since you were talking about movies second ago, I wanna dip into this part of your career because next to the back that you're an MIT scientist. You build video games. Like, you're an unbelievable entrepreneur you also produce movies, which no one would guess that in a million years. Yeah. You know, it's kind of a hobby of mine, I'm big fan of all kinds of movies, and you know, until gone valley and Cambridge put my time between the east coast and west coast. I started to be an angel investor in start ups and start ups are pretty risky can lose all your money. And you know, every now, and then I would talk to investor about movie investing in a movie, and they'd be like, oh, we don't want about the movies movies or to risky, well ninety percent of male and you invest in exactly that's pretty pretty risky to. But so I started to to, you know, meet some filmmakers and got involved in being a producer in a number of independent films. And one of them was one of the first film shot on the Navajo reservation. It was kind of a small these tend to be smaller. Budget films tend not to involved in ventures and game those I like to go watch, exactly. The reason why bring this up. So here's where our paths cross. I don't know if you know, I'm a big guy. So I've I've had a production company for about eleven years. I've done in my career probably thirty films something like that. And I do small budget crazy movies as well. There was a movie you did called Saami that I read about on DVD you remember that one. Trey. Yeah. It was a group of guys in Utah who were making fantasy and science fiction films. They actually have a show on the w now that I'm helping them produce called the outpost. Yeah. That was. Yeah. That was one of the movies that those guys created, and yeah, I involved more on a business and not so much the actual, of course, of course. Yeah. Because look we have investors from all walks of life. And that's that's also part of the fun part about it. Because a lot of people get into it just because they love movies and are trying to help young filmmakers, and it's amazing the independent film business cannot survive without people investing in movies, but samba in particular that year, and I don't know how how deep you are in the movies, and how much you enjoy them. I had a movie come out that year called FDR American bad ass. And I I don't know if you know that film. I've heard the name I haven't seen it. So all kind of being in the indie film world. I remember hearing about it. And what happened was with Asami? It came out the same year and the samba trailer blew up and it went viral and sorted FDR. American bad ass at the end of the year on all of the film review sites of the craziest movies of the year Asami was on there. So when I went to do research. On you. And I looked you up. I was like oh my God. I had no idea you were into the movie business or anything whatsoever. And then then when I did sound the I was like, man. This guy's awesome. The whole fun set of movies that you know, that I got involved with him. And I I tend to to get involved in the kind of film that I like to watch which are like SCI fi fantasy or documentaries about weird subjects. Cool yet. This was about bringing some of bin Laden was Dombi. And that's right. Like shootings, AVI. It's kinda like a cross between. World War Z, and you know, nine eleven. Combat asked about Roosevelt who got polio from aware wolf and all the axis of evil was where wolves. Great. Yeah. Yeah. It was like it was a wink wink of like I did a series of movies making fun of B movies from the seventies. So everybody's in on the joke in the the costumes are terrible. And all that stuff. There's there's nudity errors on purpose. And are those are two films where were linked together. And I remember watching the trailer. And I was like oh, man. There's there's a group of dudes who get it's just about having fun because like movies like that are fun. Take him seriously. Important. I think for those and I'm a big fan of the old, Ed Wood movies. I did it series of those for men like the last five years kind of in that vein. Just because I miss it. They don't exist anymore. And I'm glad that there's another person out in the world who enjoys that as well. Where do you go from here afterwards? Are you still working on video games? Obviously one of twenty nine million downloads. Yeah. So you know, I had a couple of game companies. They got a lot of downloads these days, I tend to be more an investor or adviser to helping videogame companies. And that's part of what I do to my tease. We run a prostate up program for people who want to build video game companies, and so continue to do that in east sports I world, and I'm going to be writing more books taking took a little time off from that program this year. So I could focus on my writing and start startup coming out next year as well. And then, you know, we'll I've been trying to get a movie project off the ground that's based on another science fiction writer called or Kayla Gwynne. She she was a Hugo nebula winning author one of the first women in science fiction, and we've been working on a an adaptation of one of her work as well. So then I've got a site called bid movie. Oh, which. Oh, founder of which is a place for independent filmmakers to basically find an audience for their film, and you know, people can tip you and use virtual currency. It's using the model of games. But in the in the independent film world what we've been what we've been talking about. And. Yeah, lot of those like the the low budget fantasies. I five movies that that I've been involved with it would be on there. And it's a way for people to actually make money from their movies, which you know, a lot of independent filmmakers, don't do these days 'cause bution is is pretty tough it uses crypto and blockchain under the hood. Especially with the once they did away with DVD's. That's when it got bad. Because now everybody just wants to wants to watch a movie on Netflix. And I think let's see three movies ago. I did a crowdfunding one. And then I just gave it away for free. To define what you know. A lot of indie. Filmmakers could have to date to get to get it out there, but you know, in China and in in the east there's a lot of sites where people will watch streamers, and they'll still tip them with virtual goods in virtual currency. And so there's a whole new game. If I'd model for people to pay for movies streams online, and that's what this site that movie. It was all about and so we launched that in open beta few few weeks ago. So keeping busy that way. That's awesome. Look, you're at your Helvin, author, man. And I really really enjoyed this book. It was it was one of these things where again, I just stumbled across an article about it bought the book in. It's amazing. How many talented people like yourself out in the world that just a little bit of exposure where you're like, oh, man. This guy's amazing. I'm gonna reach gonna reach out to him and had him up about how amazing book was. So thank you for being on the show, man. Thank you for existing because we need more. Seriously. We need more people like you out in the world who are willing to toss out theories and write books about things knowing you're gonna take heat from it because I'm sure that that you're taking against religion and everything else is probably got to be a little overwhelming. Yeah. There's definitely some of that out there. But then there's a lot of people that have been supportive as well. And so yeah, thanks for having me on and the book is the simulation. I bought Thisiis, and hopefully people will check it out. And my website is called zen entrepreneur dot com. And there's a lot more information on the book there as well. Great where can people find you on social media? I thought you Facebook. I don't know if you're a big social media guy. I'm on Facebook and Twitter as risk Dan verd- and on Facebook as the same as my website, which is in entrepreneur on on Facebook. Awesome. Will look kids go out and buy the book stimulation hypothesis. It's fantastic. Whether you believe in it or not, it's nice opened up your mind and take a stab at it. After look after I was Coachella for for hologram pock. So after that anything is possible to me, so. On the show is. Yep. Thanks for having me. Take care ribs, Berkman what an awesome, dude. How does that guy? Scientists man. They're making a comeback ever since nine. They're becoming sexy. Now, pick up the simulation hypothesis. This book is fantastic. I love doing shows like this. I love meeting people from all walks of life. And then just having them sit down. It's one of my favorite parts of doing a podcast in all seriousness that I get to meet and chat with people like this who let's face it. I would never get to come across someone like this in real life. But on a podcast. I can we can sit in chat for an hour. No matter if you believe in or don't you don't believe in it either way. It's it's fun to chat about different theories in different hypothesis that floating around out in the world that you're like man, I wonder I wonder if this is real Jesse can't even wrap remind run this. She she couldn't be heard today. But I love doing shows like this. I hope to expand into many many more shows like this. It was a blast and to ribs out there. Thank you for being on the show, we greatly. Appreciate it. I am Ross Patterson this. Is the revolution? Good night. Everyone.

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3351: The Girls Brothers w/ Andrew Warner and Michael Khalili

Keith and the Girl Comedy Talk Show

1:03:45 hr | 10 months ago

3351: The Girls Brothers w/ Andrew Warner and Michael Khalili

"Welcome the keith. And the girl. I'm keith malley hamda. Come the happy birthday. That's all i want. Happy birthday to you. Also thank your husband going so far. It's glorious been. Watching gilmore girls. I went to starbucks for free coffee And that's all we can do in the pandemic did omit this morning. Fantastic is starbucks only place you go into because you just said the other day. How very care for your now. You're getting coffee. My day are all with windows in front of them and distanced in waiting outside. And i also the supermarket have gotten pizza from actual pizza place but i wait until everybody leaves and they they look at me like i'm crazy and i'm like just trying to social distance. One guy started yelling at us. It's all very fun but we're trying out here who at you because it's fake. This one guy was standing at the door with mask like on his chin. So circuses didn't want to pass through that through the doorway so he's just like i'm just waiting guys like going to go off on like can't believe this blah blah blah the fog and it's like okay. Well i just want pizza. Won't get pizza today. Okay everybody wins. I don't get pizza now. We talked of course it was one full year ago that Enda even though zirk sees alga busted his back making all the different food and giving massages. He didn't give a card. He wasn't raised property. The list goes on a k. Those were the two things okay. He made a shoe over breakfast and he made salmon and rizzo granted. Those are gentle foods. That need you know the need monitored. But i don't believe remind you find salmon disgusting slimy and gross and made for you on your birthday. I don't faint out there listeners. Don't faint but did not give a card and you ain't gonna look how ungrateful. I sound fixing the way you say. It was beautiful. Okay go ahead. Don't put meaning into my words this. Listen to the words and you were praying. He must be fucking with you. Obviously there's a card coming and then it got too late and there was no card. Have you gotten a card today. No because we moved my birthday to saturday. I gotta work all day today. I don't want to change the schedule. So we're moved to saturday. Also i forgo the card. The card was clearly. Because i needed more expression of a kind of romance and things like that. I have gotten that this personal year. So i'm not as crazy for card now. He said he's not falling for it. So i'm cheryl beginning one but That's where we are. How long have you been together a year and a half okay. So the first half of the year he wasn't showing much love. Apparently he was showing a lot of love. I wanted different kinds of expression. I want to stop. Yes the but stuff of cards. Yes okay so now. He doesn't need to get a card. Because you have been expressing love the whole year. However i did see the car that he bought an. It's guinness world record size. It's huge and you get it this weekend very excited for you. Just get sick season troublesome. We'll see what happens. So saturday is the real. Follow up to find out everything worked out so we don't even know yet. We were at at ease with this day. No no you should be at ease with my day. Actually i get worried. That i made people in easy and this morning i was like. Hey you nervous you okay. He's like. I'm not scared of you or your birthday. So everything's fine. I you on the forums. We put up. Are you nervous for his birthday. I'm not gonna say the results until saturday. So we'll see. I mentioned this though keith. And the girl dot com slash kick. K i c k. It's our kickstarter. Eighty percent funded the loot for almost there about ten days left to go. Of course it Brings another year of keith. And the girl we had to put our studios into our house so that we need to studios and we'll do the twenty four hour. Virtual marathon were making the data emails turning that into a book. So you give your pledge you get rewards of course it's not a simple donation and we appreciate it the very very much so far so good. I think yeah and get your coloring book on the way out so you get to pick whatever reward and then On the way out sort of like a passing through the gift shop you get to choose the coloring book as well. There's another there's another. Add on there too and i just think it's funny. Just check it out. Keeping the girl dot com slash kick. K i c k. Today's guests ladies and gentlemen. It's a special day. Yes so get special guests. Okay harry is. This is the only way. I get these guys to talk to me. Have to on my show right the host of mixer gene. Now this podcast. I love this podcast. I wouldn't normally be into business podcast. But this guy doesn't fuck around. He talks to entrepreneurs he talks to fully realize successful people and breaks down how they became successful. How their businesses going up and he's not shy about asking numbers you know all right. You did this plan. Specifically what was it specifically. How much money did it bring in. He doesn't give a shit. And i think that's fantastic. That's why you wanna download mixer g. He happens to be kennedy's older brother. Andrew warner. how're you doing andrew. Okay very good. So we'll work on andrews microphone later. Now we're going to talk to the other sibling. Oh i took off. Michael's know what they look. So we're like bad. Oh you muted. Michael michael we can you know what it is. This is michael's fall because he changed his name into some funny name. That confuse you what. What confused you about my bed. Call myself andrew narrow michael the fact that he's running the show and you're telling jokes in the place where he has to you. That's what it is so confusing raising about your tone. What's confusing about your talent. That i put andrew water as my name. Please ladies and gentlemen the real andrew warner how you doing answer. Hey good are we. Is this the point. Where a talker. You're going to go back to my sister and her butt plug and my brother and how he looks like me. It was a weird name. Worst invitation i ever got is it. Are you able to listen to Do you have to take breaks from keith. And the girl when it gets personal about whether it's whether it sex or anything that's a little too much. I was surprised that i didn't because i was i. I remember years ago when you guys would do this. I thought why am i continuing to listen. I realize because nobody knows that i'm listening. And as long as there's no judgment around it. I don't care. And so and plus i was running and i don't wanna stop my run anything so i've learned to accept it that sir. Equal with your intro. That level of love running just because my sister's running or fucking mouth again all right and you already heard from him. Harry is a younger brother and the genius behind the keith. And the girl app michael khalili. Hello michael my immune that okay. Hey how's it going. It's great it'd be back on the show. Thank you thank you very much when you now i see right here on the cameras of course has everybody's name and michael kept the last name. Khalili andrew did not years of course have gone by since that business decision. Michael how do we feel about that. Is that selling out. Do you look at your brother fun. So i like like what people say cashing in instead of selling out. Don't think either of those two. I think it was lever hack. We you changed your name. We were doing sales at the double. You're doing the sales at the time but we were we. Were trying to get your cold calls at the time injuries. Doing cold calls at the time trying to get ads on our on our platform. And you know you call and you say you're calling from qalilya negative Halil salihi Talking about saying at the hub voluntarily trains right right. Carl hurley leak. Leili all the mispronunciations cap. And i think during sales you wanna be as clear as you can as easy as you can. Plus it doesn't hurt to sound kind of waspy when you're calling from but when for money right so having a haven't changed name. I think it was a good hack to to get in there. And then he was andrew water for so long making a call. It just made sense to switch. Now that i think is a good thing that andrew did you say. hey. I know. I'm doing these calls but michael. If you're so into me changing my name you change your name to. I couldn't get my wife to change her. Name to warner getting married and i remember. We have all these arguments are. Isn't that funny. You think like hey old fashioned. Do i take my husband's name. That's already a thing you know in in this day and age. Now she's supposed to take a name that's not necessarily real. Yeah my gonna take on your fake name. No and so. And i changed it legally. I got the paperwork and she still insisted that she didn't wanna do it. And i remember. We had an argument with two and michael there. And i think you might have even been there at the time and finally we came to this agreement. That's very michael. Which was i'm gonna keep using warner for work. And then privately our marriage we could still. I could switch back to khalili and so for work all the work papers all the boxes the come into the house or to my office for work have warner's the last name and then come when it's dinner time she goes she goes andrew khalili. Dinner's ready no though that she does she doesn't do because even she can't pronounce khalili folks on both. Your wives are last. Name was halili. The weirdest part is my parents will call me. Andrew honor and they don't even accept it. I've gone back to khalili. And i think even call her. Olivia warner so. Only one out there on the island on her own. Your parents just wanna make they just wanna make sure they pick the thing that you're not picking at the time. They wanna be americanized. Like every other jew did they. How religious are you andrew. I'm not religious. You were all americans and the thing to say is not religious and spiritual right and your white convert. What the fuck fucker words converted. But you don't you don't go to temple will see you go to temple. No but she still had to see rabbi non. he doesn't go to temple. She go but my boyfriend is right. I converted to then just now. I mean who cares my my own kid yesterday in the car said as we were driving. Mom is christian. I go what he was telling me. Now olivia was was raised atheist. She's not in hasn't ever been but even he's frigging confused by all this. I couldn't i don't you know like what is the point that she signed something like what. What's the point. It makes me feel like he's going to know right. And god's going to know what you did a lot of when you die okay and you have a lot of people especially with kobe. Dying all at once. You think they're going to be checking everybody's paperwork. What happens when you're playing a numbers game right. You're you're hoping you don't get audited. They take your numbers. I think. I think that's kind of gave. You gotta play when you go into heaven you just kind of and they take it to the math okada certificate. They're wiser what's the worst happen. You go to hell you going there anyway as a christian right andrew. So she's got a shot right hilar- who wants to. Who wants to take this. When when you guys were talking about the start doing your business together. Ken does the free spirit right. The artistic one The The singing this kind now. Now podcasting where it's more about her life as opposed to you know a specific genre. It's you know it's a comedy show but we're talking about anything. Did you guys have to look at each other and be like how do we get her in the number business like i know like if not the only she was Choose one of One of the first jobs was working with you guys. Are you know you're being a little too. Hippyish numbers are numbers. Numbers lead to toumani focus on the on. What's you know what works no andrew No i'm okay with people. Just doing their own thing as long as they don't rope me into their nonsense. So right drags you onstage to sing. Write your bullshit i actually. That's how i rang gay but no it's worse it's like that time when you guys came to san francisco and she was up on stage and she said look. I need my brothers up on stage and had this one guy keith. Mcnally who tells a story about his pubic hairs being used as dental floss. And then now does brother andrews gonna come up and i've gotta sit up on stage and answered whatever question and try to be as interesting that that was awkward. So long as i don't get sucked into this too much i'm fine. You think that being mind numbers right. How about you michael. Are you ever worried about the hippie attitude. No no back. That was that was a good thing right to that. That helped me get another full point. Plus with the hippie attitudes come hippie friends that have free love attitude which was very convenient for me as well so i would. I not like that. Can the b. b. as hippy. As hippy. as you'd like to be be as free spirit as he likes to be go. Get some more free. Spirited friends introducing me. How many of kansas friends have you had sexual intercourse with michael. I wouldn't answer that question out of respect for and of respect for this is the only number he doesn't know didn't keep track of like i think i think when i was younger. You keep track of the girls you kiss. Then you get older you try to think about like the next got the first base then you keep track of that number than second base and third base. He can't keep track of the number. Then after a while. You just stop counting. Michael i think this is the math. Andrew was trying to avoid. Maybe i need to get out the spreadsheet. Start figuring this out. yeah andrew. Two children shepherd and river Both boys sell far. so far. Right does going to remind you that okay. You don't know like is this how happy she is like. You don't know yet. Do you say they appear to be. They act as if they are boys. I live in san francisco. I don't need her to tell me any of that. Okay and michael. Max and marcus. Three in one. Have your kids met each other. It's max's it's marxist birthday today congrats. Yeah so yeah. Big matt each other they. They said hello. They pass each other in the hall on the way to the bathroom has your have your son's met andrew sense yes A couple of years ago into came over and matt's but not the Not marcus so andrew you're due for another trip Come on over and meet marcus. i don't have to. Everybody can come here the energy to travel all right have a had you guys zoom each other the families. Yeah yeah the kids. The kids know the does uhm interactions pretty. Well i think at this point and then We try to get together with everyone every here and again. But it's a lot of me just watching. My brothers manage their kids on those calls. It's like oh how you doing come to hold on shepard. Yes yes you can but can you ask them. Okay yeah okay. Yeah i'm the how you doing. And then michael goes a max. Show them how to play happy birthday on the piano. It's a lot of that about. Max said doing tricks. 'cause we practice all the time. And now it's showtime and now show everybody how awesome you are. What a by extension. How awesome. I am not have to be great gate with terrible dad or maybe we'll be you definitely a great kid with awesome debt. So i want. I want credit for the performance. He does obviously is very much into self help. Some actual have you guys noticed that the growing up and would you say you're in tune with yourself as much as she is andrew. I didn't a surprise. I remember when she started doing when you guys were clowns for kid parties when she had this giant calendar she said all right now. I'm going to be organized before that. Everything was just chaotic and she had this giant calendar where she would write the kid parties down on and from there. She just kept getting more and more organized. Oh right even know that. Did you being organized and carrying about self help. I feel like i was a self-help person in the family. Actually that's true. yeah you would read about. How people's minds work. And what makes things work stuff like that. Yeah i don't know what do you remember. Michael love a kid. I heard a story do you do you remember this. I heard a story that she wouldn't talk actually talk until noon. That's when the design bay. Remember this too. She wouldn't talk but she would communicate so she come down with a pillow. If you insisted on talking to me no now you you You weren't grumpy. You just didn't want some mornings. I guess when you're grumpy but the regular thing was just coming downstairs with your pillow. This beat up pillow. That i don't know how it could feel comfortable is it. You have never seen a pillow where you lay down on it. Your head is actually sinking below the mattress. That you're laying down on. This thing has no support at all. You've got your pillow there and And then you just communicate like this who is like more work talk that way they like my throat hurts with just that little bit of and then of course you'd have to repeat yourself is like what you do gestures you To what she still does it now. What was the point of that. I didn't wanna. I was still sleeping then. That wasn't awake. I didn't talk i Even if i was like in public. I would avoid everybody until noon. I just wasn't ready and you do that until you were. How old. I think i believe when i moved out of my parent's house i was still doing it to maybe. After a real grownup it was a long time. Was it like. I didn't have my coffee yet or was there. Something deep wasn't even drinking coffee. It was more like. I'm not ready to open my mouth yet. And that's the end of it so i just said how he is an interesting guy so she looks into herself and she never thought this was a thing. Well i used to used to well. I still do. I fold my tongue at night and sort of use it. It's really weird to say. This was sort of use. It as a pacifier is what i discovered when i was a teenager and i think i just didn't wanna unfold yet so stay there. How many people how to fold their tongue while he said the the com half your listeners. Fokker tri fold there and understand what you just said. What does that mean the. Fold your tongue pacify. Did you stick out your tongue and you put the tip you fold it back towards the back full corazon early like straight across the tyke in with par and then you just wanna just sits there. You take has to do with being a singer now. I think my tongue is just too big for my mouthy. Sounds like one of your parents. Can't let me mention this by the way speaking of self. How help i wanna tell you about this company. Better help h. e. l. p. of something interfering with your happiness or something preventing you from achieving your goals better. How will assess your needs and match you with your own. Licensed professional therapist start communicating and under forty eight hours. It's not a crisis line. And i say self help. It's not necessarily self help. It's a professional counseling. That's done securely online help at all i go to counselor there i see i see a therapist that also sees people in hardcore jail so y yeah so i i imagine if you like can pull emotions out of people who are literally in jail and have to buck up before they go back to gen pop. Maybe i can Get in with this guy. Naar gnarled south out because somebody else's helping you yeah. Self-help is finding things on your own account of walking through things. Very important distinction timeline. Thoughtful responses plus. You can schedule weekly video or phone sessions. Seattle ever have to sit in uncomfortable waiting room as like you would in traditional therapy where we gonna say michael. Do you think that people in jail gen pop are saying. I go to the same therapist that has an israeli mother and father. We don't like the person that you david never approved of so this guy must be real good hardcore and they come from iran as she. I know a guy studies. 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I'm trying to touch the touch pad full of coffee to say oncoming than i was able to cause you log on your phone to log on my phone and said just one second three minutes later i was able to talk to him in my computer's fine but that was a moment like as the phone started ringing the coffee spills everywhere and i am just watching my therapist. Try to get in touch. He says what are you stressed out about right there but yeah we did couples therapy via remote like that and i couldn't sit still because i hate just sitting there and talking and i said i would love it if i could just put my phone on a selfie. Stick around you so helpful. I asked so much better even if it's around the house but even gone through the neighborhood because we're here no valley san francisco. There's nobody in the street during the day. Who just walking around talking and it allowed me to open up in a way that i couldn't if we were just sitting down fell to sterile too uncomfortable to do that. Yeah i've made coffee while we're talking. Yeah i'd i'll actually put it on a little podium thingy for for phone. I didn't mean selfie stick. But yeah i don't think they care. They were a little cautious about what i be as open if i was walking around with strangers hearing me but i turn the camera around. You can see known seeing me. There's no one around right by the way speaking of the parents. How long has it been that. You haven't talked to your parents kinda. Let's at this point. I don't know four or five years for sure. At least four and andrew. Do the parents try to get see. What kind is up to through you. I try to stay out of it. Because i feel like no matter what i do. It ends up exploding on me. Like i remember asking him to what you want out of this. What would what would your ideal thing be from them and she just went off and i thought i didn't do anything to you. It just asking you a question. i went off. I said. I said i want them to speak to me. Like adult. not like nothing has happened. I get a touch it. That's what you say. Better help therapists what they did. Do you know when i was saying i thought all right. I guess what you don't realize do this. Interest rate so big brings up the topic. You're attack like they were making the case for them. Insert just wonder ideal. You want me to. Do you want me to send my kid with his ninja moves. They'll take him. I said I want respect as a human for a start. I want acknowledgement that. We haven't spoken in years real recognition. Not to pick up where we were as if nothing happened. Well i could see my a siblings. I could see this going the same way. My siblings were hearing this show saying. That's how keith is with our dad. Where i could see brother mind saying you know what just it's it's gonna be christmas. You can call dan for christmas and me going. I don't think you get it. That i don't think you understand and i could see them thinking well easy. I'm not that we don't even get that. It's once your ideal. Do you know what i do know. We read the question. That don't read your apply me the question that i asked you because i was just asking you. I think i was asking you. Let's see the way. I remember it as well. You said the tricky thing was mom and dad is they ask. How was your day. But they don't want to actually know the answer. It's hard to have conversations like those and anderson. I get that but are you saying you're not willing to live with that. I mean considering that's how they are. What do you want. And i said i want respect as a human i start i want. Oh i start. I wanted knowledge meant that. We haven't spoken in years real not to pick up where we were as if nothing happened. And michael says never mind. That's a different conversation. They even jobs. I don't know what i said but you could. I can see the exact same. We'll never know. I could see the exact same thing though with key. Figure the fuck out. Okay sounds good all right. I'm not part of the family yourself involved in your this and i am anthony started. This entry was introduced one of the first things he says. I don't care what you do. Just don't get me pulled into your bullshit you don't get me pulled into your bullshit has had out started. Andrew started a continued tax with me. And michael starts with. I'm that did you get the box for mom. What do you think. And i said i did. I think it's weird. It had it had a card with glitter that That said happy new year in hebrew no signature nor real message. We haven't spoken for over four years. Feels like an invitation to continue exactly where we left off. Which sounds like hell to me. 'cause somebody asked me how i felt and then. The andrews said glitters the best and then he said. That's a fuck you right. that's passing. That was funny and then he said so. What's your non. Hell ideal back to nothing. And i said i don't see an option here. A package doesn't create change and he said thumbs up. Then michael said going okay. They don't have the two hands up for blacklivesmatter all but always said is. I don't option here. Package doesn't create change comes up then. Michael said the tricky thing with mom and dad is they ask how is your day and then it and then that was. That was to the end and now keith. you're right. I know so but all i'm trying to say is that now gives a fun. Save yourself gives a thumbs up mosey verge verbally and move on. I could see. I was going to say hey. Christmas is coming up too late. Michael christmas is coming up. Why don't you just you could at least say hi to debt. And i'd be like then you don't fuck and get it and if you don't want to say hi i'm not telling you to your ideal if your ideal keith is to just disconnect completely forget it it to have a conversation it if your is something else i get it. I one hundred and then if we can't get that ideal. I'll be open say. Look you can't get that. I get what you're looking for. You can't get it. Can i ask you my aunt to my house and just naturally sit down here with my friends and smoke weed. I can't do it right. So what so. What did i answer was that now you tell us what's your ideal you want acknowledgement and you don't want to pretend that this this silence didn't happen right. Yeah because i don't know how else to reconnect with someone if we're just going to pick up and they're going to keep picking on me just get that if they were to call you up and say we really have not talk long time. See he can't get through because he knows. My parents are not going to do something normal by the way normal like that. These are normal things. Okay whatever house. We grew up with. That's not normal for for someone to go. Hey i acknowledge regular behavior is actually okay. Now that's looking for if they were all right. We fully acknowledged. Here's a piece of paper saying that. We acknowledged. I don't think that's what you look for. I think you're looking for more. I think you're looking for and understanding that you are in deepen pain and a regret that they caused it. And i don't think i could get that. I'm really just looking to have a if they want to have a conversation. Because i really don't with people who don't want to have a conversation with me they wanna have a conversation would seems like they do. I think by sending me boxes. I guess that's how you get your girlfriend back. You know what. I mean like one of these. Send me flowers. But if they wanna have a conversation. Wouldn't i want them to not. I can't keep picking up the phone and they call me fat. I pick up the phone and they call me loser. I pick up the phone and they don't like who i'm dating. I pick up the phone. And i haven't done anything right in my life. Why am i picking up the phone. So if you ask what i want i want to pick up the phone and somebody not insult me. You don't wanna be constantly criticized. I told me mom that. And and then she said dumb. Well then forget. It was just strange concept but it was such a strange concept to her. I add that that was a suggestion. And it's like well then. Why bother at all. Why am i even used if that's my kid. Then what's the point is reality than she says. Well the the white her friends you know. Get the criticized. Her and i i. I can't criticize kickstarter does. Is there anything to that data. You understand that but does it bother you at all than michael andrew. Do talk to your parents. You know if they want that in their head. that's fine with they. Don't tell me to contact my parents anymore. And i don't tell them to stop context contacting their parents. We don't tell each other what to do. If they an and i imagine they have a better relationship them because they have kids so and i have told them at some point. I'm like what can you talk about. I mean what can you possibly have to say anymore. And they just talk about the kids i don't have that buffer and about my kids and that's probably what would end up happening and then i started thinking okay. I'll call them. Do they know where i live. Do they know. Do they know that circuses here with me. Do they know that. I'm not saying anything unless you bring up jim life. I wonder why why they think that toxic. Because if i do say Because they do try to ask these questions what we should do. Aiding she doing this so they know. I walked into this trap. You know married already know how to avoid traps. I know how to avoid these things but they know they know that i'm divorced. I think so. I think so. I try not to bring it up because it always ends up like intention always and entered no resolved like i don't mind getting into an argument or getting into a like a contentious discussion. If i know at the end of that maybe we will get through it and learn something. Maybe the relationship with your at your relationship with them but it goes nowhere the they get upset and and they they tell me. Stop talking as if. I'm the one that started this like i'm hesitant throughout the whole conversation. I don't wanna get into this talk about this disease now. I started saying because you guys are just couldn't get upset. No just tell me this one all right. I know you're gonna get upset here. We go and then what happened. So i try not to. So that's every conversation. I have with them. It's me trying not to make them upset. Just trying to say the thing that says nothing in order for me not to upset them. What a crazy fucking relationship. Why would i wanna call anybody by the way your mother tried to call me on facetime. I recognize the israeli code and i'm like okay. That's my mom. Then i get a follow up email. This is hilarious. Okay it's all in the subject. Nobody just in the trump that's how they used to send email and their generation. My email from andrew like to andrew's used to send emails with just something. Climate of body says all you can tell andrew learn that people don't pay attention to detail but everybody reads a subject so put it on this. This is just an ab test. I'm doing to see who newsletter campaigns. Just seeing it right away just a little just a little side. Though andrews fucking mixture g mails i understand. The point is to get your attention a mother. I have cancer. And i opened at the email is what a guy was said that worked as the ceo of ibm interview. At how he'd beat be having. I didn't mind having an affair. And i'm like i'll fuck and i opened it up with money kidding but i'm totally using those too much. I realize i'm a piece of shit for not getting my act together soon. Real talent there the best so in the subject. My mommy says happy birthday that we wish. And how does she flip from hebrew to english in one sentence. It's my name is in hebrew. The rest is in english. Happy birthday time that we wish you all the best in parentheses. I tried to call. But it didn't work in parentheses now in hebrew mazal tov the in hebrew. Happy birthday so an indepth She tried probably sent it as a text message or something. I'm not yeah. I'm not really criticizing her. Yeah she sent a message to called in so we good good. You know i'm sitting right. Next is who's calling on facetime and i have to ask myself if i pick this up. The she wanted to know what she's about to look at freely. Send a facetime fucking here and go. Do you wanna see what my apartment looks like. Hurt in her defensive. You've tried not being a bad daughter now. You know tried it. You might like it are you. Are your parents ever wrong like my. My dad has never been wrong. In fact i saw my girlfriend snap at one of her kids and what they did was very wrong but then she realized. Hey maybe but maybe. I shouldn't have said it. And she's saying this to the kid. Maybe i shouldn't have said it this way for that. I'm sorry and i'm like i. I don't think i've ever seen a parent apologize. No it's more like if if it's like if you wanna like share reality with them like hey in reality this okay. I'm the please do favourite. You're giving me a headache. I look at my brothers faces. They know that line see. I started livia. Do that with like our kid. When he was three years old. I have to go and tell him i was wrong. She goes in practically wakes up to say i was wrong. Who does that. That's very foreign to you. Guys are a bunch of weirdos. I do have all the time. Have you not admitted to rob when you're wrong. You're setting it up for them. A late for them to distrust here like. Could you be with a three-year-old all talking about time. He was wrong because ibn poker. And you curse the next but like you say alligators crocodiles and then you realize that it was really an alligator. Have you let you let that go. Walk around hauling mouth big mistake. What a big wrong. Both of the mistakes i make. I don't know what you guys will kinda you as a parent. That's probably the worst mistake. I have made so far but yeah there would be. I remember you know people would ask me. Hey you know when. We talked about the debt emails. When when my dad thought he was talking to my expert is really talking to me hitting on my axe so hitting on his son They it and i'm like all right. This is out of control light. New your true colors or not. But this is this is beyond. I think this relationship is over and people said well so that's really it like what if he apologized. And it's almost what you guys were saying before. I'm like what if what if you just made up a whole new person. Yes of all sudden your whole new fucking person and you you explained all the shady bullshit. You've always done and how you You know you just made up that you knew everything dead shore. I wouldn't even cracked. I wouldn't i couldn't even happen. So that is the. That's my point. It can't happen. So what are we even talking about. Trying to describe a different person if in him to express that feeling than other things would be in him and he would not have done that in the first place right. We wouldn't be here. What if we get a time machine ejecting new body into his brain. Okay what are you gonna do you know. Do you guide you find yourself. I mean the kids are so young but do you find yourself doing something that your parents did and being like. Uh oh shit. No always thought that it would happen. It doesn't nothing not anything significant. I think that we just. Maybe we waited so long to have kids that i don't remember how my parents were and i've got a different approach. I don't think you guys remember. Do you remember being a kid. I don't remember being a kid. I won't act like i'm michael jackson over here. But i don't i don't remember. I don't remember these. I don't remember kid like stuff. I don't even remember leading being a kid. And i hated it so much that i just blanked it out and it's only bad things happen to me. Michael jackson never touched me. It's more like it's just not for me. I don't. I don't get it when my supposed to be doing here. I remember being a kid being pulled ahead to take a nap in the middle of the day and i had the same attitude. I have now if you told me. Andrew go take a nap now. I just want to snap on. What do you want me to play sand discuss. You gave it a name and put a. It doesn't mean that this is some sort of toy. This is not entertainment right. What is described. you want me to play in dirt for. He didn't like it when we when we went to the park as like an extended family. It'd be like a lot of cars a lot of food. That'd be a pool there. He's like why can't you just leave me here. I'm going to read a book. That sounds like a reasonable thing for a child to ask. Just leave me here Andrew andrew they call them by his real name. Come on can the car. You're being ridiculous these like. I'm and you fought for this a lot. Yeah so now as a dad. When i found myself doing was sending my kid to school where in kindergarten. He was forced to sit down where he was telling his younger brother. How a few act out you go to the principal's office and i said this is kindergarten down for covert. I could actually see him on zoom sitting down and studying away. That just felt like everything. I rebelled against or an example of what i rebelled against his kid and i felt that about it and you felt bad about what the house forcing him down the same path. I was on that. I didn't like i didn't like school the way that it was presented to me where you're forced to sit down where you're forced forces study the things that matter to them and copen like one example and i think i've said it on the show before i asked andrew is okay There was a time where the our parents had to be called in because andrew just would stand up in the middle of class right He would stand up. Teacher would be like. Hey it's time to say. I'm listening to the same way. I just need to stand here and you fought for that and then the the result was you. You've got to sit stand at the back the classroom. Not distracting now. By the way my dad actually was a person who came in and a she that one of the things that i really liked that he was willing to do today. sit stand. Desks are so frigging common. That it's not a big deal if you don't have it sometimes we'll feel bad for you for not getting it from your boss. But we were sending our down that path and Because of covid. I saw it and i realized it and i was forced to confront it and i was forced to find another another way and now he's at school where he has to take rain pants and with him because they're going to be playing in the mud and he likes to play in the mud where he's not forced to sit down where he has a different experience. And so the reason. I'm saying that is i. Don't find myself copying it intentionally. I make an effort to notice the things that i hated and be aware enough to give them what they're looking for. Do you find your kid is sitting down nicely over zoom. You hit them over the back of the head and be like. What are you doing the work i have to say. I do sometimes wanna tell my kid had to be subversive. Like if i want to say you do not have to take this bullshit if the teachers forcing you to do it and i have to stop myself. Because if i say that. I don't know what kind of bullshit and what they're gonna fight against but i do want to tell them you don't have to put up with it but they need to put up with things like that's part of life to some degree. Yes but i don't think that the big picture has to be go into school every day for years where you put up with it. You don't have to put up with it because if you put up with it you're not gonna get any smarter doesn't appeal to you and we should find a different way. Can you imagine a couple years from now. Like hey school just called and said you cut class good job. Can you imagine the you called me the hippie. What the hell are we talking about. We're all hippies. In our own way has like giant bins of compost in his backyard. So excited about it. It's all he talks about. Don't go to his house. you'll hear about composting. And now my boyfriend also used to compost giant bins. And they talk composting all night. So fun look andrew off. I still hate it because you have to another static. Both you graduated right or not. Yeah i mckay me and michael michael guy. Gd michael job. When i was seventeen. I dropped out in it. Would you recommend that for your kids. Yes so i would recommend that for the kid as long as they have a plan of what to do afterwards. So it's one thing to say. I don't want to do this but i will. I want to do this instead but if you just saying. I don't want to do this or i don't wanna do anything. That's a problem if you tell me what you do. look at. oh he. This is the the phrase of the house. I don't want this. Or i don't want to eat that and stop telling me what you don't wanna do. I don't care what you don't wanna do. Tell me what you want to do. So don't tell me what you don't wanna eat. Tell me what you want to eat and help you. I can't help you if you don't want to sit there like where were dating. I'm going list of restaurants in all you're gonna do now so tell me what you want. And then you'll get it or anyone right so these that's what do you want three year old. They were brought it up right. I've heard the like i. I love i. I love my brothers relationships with their kids. I think their kids really really really lucky and So i've heard michael when he and he really make a really does perform when we call He'll say he'll say the max. Okay here we go. It's time what is this. What does this sound make. And max will look you know. Now it's out of nowhere. And he'll i don't know and michael yes you do. Just think about it for a second. I don't know now come on. We practice this do it. I don't know we're live. We're fighting live you with when she gets video or when you guys get video or when you see those things that facebook that's like number seventeen so he thinks that we're recording. But he needs to get. I got to get him used to like this. Live one one and done. He's michael got michael. Got the kids both of them both the three end the one year old when he says trump they go nothing yabu and then at altitude a call. With with bob and dad will your. Your kids are older and zero. You guys getting political over there in your house. I really try not to i. I need a break from it. It's it's all over right. What is the six year old's thoughts. And all these pardons going on in the way. He's a little too much. Crime did was even mentioned yet. And they're given pardons. What does the four year old thing you know what. I bet that they do have an opinion about it at this point. It's just on all the time we right. I really liked the point in their lives. Where for example. They didn't know that some people are black and some people were white. I remember when i first explained to my kid. He goes well. My black and i just loved that they would that naive about it. But we've actually realized we've got to bring them in and understand that some of the kids in their class or dealing with with real problems and real frustrations and real anger and so we talked about. I talked about. It is neutrally as i could so that they had an opportunity to talk about to think about it for themselves and i also tried to not be so aggressive with politics. Said that they don't get into fights with other kids in school who whose parents are sending them in equally aggressive. And i i know this and of course you know this but for anybody out there confused your not black. Not black right. I think that's sick. Andrew you can teach them about politics but also teach them how to fight so that they'll win so when somebody when they get. I think it said that it's a nice distraction. You feel angry. Feel justified in your anger and in reality you're distracted from your real work and i think we're all better off or most of us are better off spending as little time as possible on it and focusing on the things that really matter. That reminds me of a sweater. The statements that. I've always remember andrew saying if it's not about business. It doesn't matter i was. I was watching the news. And he goes and he's the one that like i shed light on it to be. That's entertaining aesop news. It doesn't matter what you care if somebody across the country this is why when when you were like sixteen or eighteen an hour tat. One care about somebody in california. I've got shot. What does that matter. You have changed your life. What does that help you run about a business or something like that. If that really is the way to think and except i would just change it now and except that there are other things to do in life other than business. But if you're if you're trying to be a cyclist focus on cycling. It's been a little bit of time outside interest but who like you said who cares about this. Sounds like one of your emails. People are dying. Inside i do. Here's seven reasons. Andrew will be the first person to cry when you tell him that there was like some injustifiable in justified unjustified death or like what is he going to do it he doesn't need to hear about that death because do about it. So why am i going out speaking on your behalf. Why am i gonna hear about this going to help me in anything second improve my life so i mean to hear about it so otherwise entertainment if i say i don't want to hear about it not like it'll be oblivious to it. The news will make its way to you. It's it's just we don't need to. We need to work to not get it instead of working to get more of it. Meanwhile it's a challenge. Because i put these these speakers all over our house all these amazon speakers all over our house. And it's so tempting to say. Play the news just to have something on it and then they go off into it so he could also give it to me girl. They'll they'll the it'll play that. Say play on spotify. It's such an atlantic camera around the house when livia tries to get it to played the right song actually so she'll calm and peaceful except when the speaker will not hear her play the exact opposite and then she's when she worked when worked very very of morning that very morning. The thing that frustrates me. The most i tell every morning. We're playing the same song. We got cobblers in the same song. All the sudden it's different rendition by different artists everyday. I've been happy with the same song. Never asked to stop. And now i gotta hear some new life tape by some other artists. Who need that right. By the way that morning song in the michael khalili house was bounced by system of a down for awhile pogo pogo job although pogo pogo cardio. It are you guys. Are you guys nervous at all about the kids being so young that you know they're gonna have a drone in the next six months is they're going to be too much information too fast or because it's going to be always there they won't give. I think drones. I've got strong opinions about this. I think drones are fine. I think the big problem is phones. they are just. They're such a distraction machine. That a few years ago i decided as soon as i home after put the phone in the drawer and just be done with it and if i need something. I got the apple watch. I'm all kitted out the But every other technology you could dip in and out of the freaking phone will suck you in all the time and so i do make an effort to not have the phone on around them to put it in a drawer when i get home a little harder now that we're working from home and i need the phone work. But that's that's one of my big walls. I try to block that off everything else. You want to have a drone you want to have something else. Go for it. They've funny did not like that. Picking down we lost your computer rant. I hate phones. That's my bottom line. Keep this on in a drawer. Tried to keep him away from them. You will kick you off again. I like michael. Loves computers He he's one zero one zero one from way back if you know what i mean at bits about computer he always says it's user error and then when something goes i just secretly when something goes wrong in his end and he said gosh it. I just lost seven years of work. I'm like mother c. C. the pleases me. A little bit the best is keeps struggles in struggles and struggles with the problem. That i come in there. And not that. I just fix it really quickly that though that is satisfying and i just showed him how this one that was in. Front of him was Solving the problem but when he can't reproduce it and so i'm here i'm available. I wanna help you. I want to solve this problem for you. But i guess you're you're just going insane because this problem then i leave a enforce. The problem starts again. If you were a cyborg. If you could be a cyborg you would right michael in a fucking instant. That is the ultimate evolution back. 'cause why do i only have two limbs like allow people think about cyborgs of does like. Well if i lose my arm. I'm gonna replace it with You know a mechanical arm like darth vader date or something. I can or look out but if you have the ability to At to replace our. Why do you have to wait till the arm gets cut off. Now have a Why not just add another arm if this works. Why don't why don't i just have a bunch of bunch of legs. Like what do you think will be better like two feet or four ford. estes outlook. Michael says is hilarious but the best is watching keith. Response to it because my job is to fight robots and i am you know trying to like. Robot is different than the cyborg. Please keith skills. Can we already know. I already is. What in hammer robotics revive we not. We don't know yet that humans are shit. Well yeah well then you then you get your hands man. So i'll get mine will will or all the this is the ultimate half where my mind takes us. So if i could get a separate appendage right why does that appendage need to be connected to my body why can't just wheel so i do have an extra arm but it doesn't have to be connected to be connected. Wirelessly i got the wireless receiver shoulder. Keep you get sick of me sometimes. But i'm like your favorite khalili. Christ i know i'm just as we were talking. I was going on amazon to buy extra windex. Keeping you can put off on that arm that with wheels across the room to now you can see across the room by staying here in the chair and you're now why do you have to one arm wheels when they have a whole bunch of arms of cameras on this. You can see three sixty and why descended across the room when attended across town or you will go to harry. Reid not say the paris. he's not frozen. He's just ignoring you. Send that you send that to paris now traveling to paris while staying at home and you get to experience parents your nerve endings era. You have that everything's there wirelessly connected to you. There's a little bit of latency but that's all right. You know if. I'm in paris. And i see this not robot that's not attached you but in another country and i kick it. You'll feel that in your arm. But because i'm gonna advanced cyborg of a much more vanishing than humans. I can actually turn on and off the nerve endings. And that could limit the nerve endings just like we can lower the volume and mute. Things we can lower the volume on understandings. Or you can turn it up. Who need it in past. Maybe we meet. Maybe we meet somebody and we like them. We turn up the nerve endings and is that is that cheating or not cheating. Is that what you talked to mom and dad about. 'cause that that'll fill some time it's what he tells talk soumare sell about and every time he brings it up she's led the and then just send it to paris. Why not send right now and you're already doing why not. Why not put a gun on. Okay wait and so. That's the problem that to deal with. But now you said just have one event gonna mark you can send one tomorrow and the other one that send it to venus and then quite that's how we're going to call outsing ram my wife sometimes asking you. Why does it. Michael travel as much as you still and i remember. I asked michael. Why don't you traveling anymore. Goes well we got clubs over here. What else do. I need outside of the country. What else is there and tom dot food. Food over here to manhattan fully appreciating the benefit of being there in person. You want me to go to china. I got chinatown just a few blocks that you want me to go to. Italy voted illegally. What do i mean what they they sent people to me. All the people from those countries come to cabinet. Okay i'm not paying manhattan. Just so i can go leave empty those else's many there. Well this is the time we we're having s- cousin they're gonna come up with me in such a great place. They wanna come. See this to send my of there michael What would you like to say to him on her birthday. That perhaps she Doesn't know or doesn't fully aware any message. You want to tell your sister. It was a lot of work to not jumping in the beginning of this episode. When keith and you were talking. And i just wanted to jump in. That is your birthday present. I kept quiet. And i. I was silent and waited for my introduction or at least till injuries introduced and then i started talking so each day. Wow and key to me for the for your birthday. I will win the tournament in your in your honor please. Don't okay. don't button on your cyborg cans. No you don't have to be modest about it. I'll do it. I'm i'm happy to do it for you and andrew. I don't know how you're gonna top that but anything you would like to say to your sister on this special day. Happy birthday great. You know my family wasn't. I thought my family wasn't emotionally connected. This is beautiful. You like to say anything to me on my birthday. I'll say i think they covered it. Don't forget keith girl. Dot com slash kick. It's a it's a big deal and it's a you know can there's of course is on top of that refresh refresh refresh. I love seeing the smile on her face. Oh take a look. I think you're gonna dig it We put some pretty cool Rewards in there are Andrew good seen again. Yeah i look forward to your next email. I will never hit on subject. You're dead and i'm like what five things and business owner. You're dead dead right. You know what. I'm subject lines you'll see. How do they describe. Just go to mixer. I'll find you you. Click on walking you. He just goes. Hey jen out. Sorry salon michael. Of course Does the keith girl lap which Which is so fantastic. You get all the vip shows on there. You see every show while we were done I love it very much. I don't know if people know about the filter. Take a look at this if you don't let's see you. Click on keith. And the girl on the app that you know that show as opposed to the extra vip shows but you can do it for the extra vip shows. Also you type in the filter aghast. A topic a show number any of this guy takes your right to what you like or what you're looking for in the last sixteen years of what we've been up to six and almost sixteen years in march. Yeah not this is the truth. Sixteen years sixteen years. Are you getting tired of herbst. Today was top. Because i know right not know how to work your computer. That was another thing. What during during the technical difficulties. It was all i can do. That's for your andrew. i. I did not tease you. Try not teasing you. Because you're frustrated. I'm going all right. Everybody it's great senior. Ken happy birthday. I love you. It's been an honor to work with you. Obviously it's been an honor to know you without exaggeration. You have made me a better person. I have to say it in the sing song. Way because I don't know how to deal with. Okay semi at goodbye michael com.

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