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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

05:29 min | Last month

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Little finger okay. Yeah we haven't seen little finger in a minute haven't seen little finger. We will see him soon. But i mean here. We have a guy who his motives wouldn't be sort of like. I just can't stand jr offering. He has to die is a monster. Little finger would only be doing it if he thought that there would be something to be gained so i mean he's he it's not above him he would certainly do something like this anyone else that should be on the bulletin board Well the prince oberlin erin. Martell prince over is here to complicate things. He's going to wreck shop. I mean he has made it very clear that his he's got. He has a debt to repay. He wants revenge specifically against lancaster's right and death by poison. Yeah you mentioned the poison the last time and while it may not have been clear and the the show you know having that discussion with you and i and knowing a little bit about that from the book now it's like well i mean this guy seems like he'd have access it would seem like he's got motive and he's got means now earlier in the in the first season we learn that stereotypically poison is a woman's weapon. We've already established at least right now that he's you know. He's gender feces g-gender bands. He's he's a little guy. Yeah so so. He's already made it clear that he doesn't play by the same rules right. And he's there to two buck- convention. I feel like he's the candidates as he wants you to know i want revenge. I wanna know that. I want you to know that i did it now that i could see that. Yeah he doesn't even care about the game even so much that he's just willing to tell tyrian like yeah. I came here for revenge. Panda tyrians whole interactive tyrannous. Obt down this upset. I mean every interaction. He has just all right. Well okay. let's talk about tyrian tyrrhenian shea. Tearing in chiang now he's genuinely concerned now that that she's their relationship has been officially outed. It's been outed so they're both in danger in danger of being killed. Yeah he may not be in any more danger other than just having to have her killed or ano- could be something horrible like he's forced to killer. I mean you don't know what taiwan's capable. Oh exactly and inserts. If she's helping pulling the strings yeah so the best thing for them to do is to run. I think i think the second best thing for them to do is for tyrian to kind of you know. Say this is. This is our plan. You're going to go hide. I'm gonna meet you at a later date. I can't tell you when or whatever but what he decides to do is like throw rocks or like. She's a puppy. Or something. Like that. And i think that they're both too smart and they both kind of see through what he's doing right like you don't. I know that you really love me. I know that you don't really believe the things that you're saying. And this is all bullshit. Well and that's the thing right so he given their interactions thus far him just saying look. Your life is in danger. He knows she's not leaving. And i don't know if that's just her stubbornness or if it's because she's in love or whatever it is so i think the element of him doing and like to your point the the fact that both of them see through it the fact that she can see that. This is what he's resorting to. Even if she sees it as a ruse suggest like all right maybe to do this it would be to have my absolute best interests in mind and convince me. This must really be a serious thing. And i feel like that's that's almost like a code language so to speak between the two of them but she doesn't and she's upset she doesn't wanna leave because of circumstance not necessarily because of what he saint specifically and so i mean. That's that's a major blow to him right. I mean that's it's well it seems to be the end of that. Seems to be the end of that stage of their relationship anyway right and also just as a side note i mean what is students onset. She was already considered the daughter of a traitor. And now she's the wife of the guy who killed the king. Angie and she runs right so if every if you look guilty run that sort of thing So yeah so. She's got problems because then it looks like okay well maybe they conspired and at this point. You're thinking oh no but does will keep her safe. So let's talk about this thing going on with John snow so he's kind of on trial up north and some swagger now though okay good. I'm glad that you noticing this. Because i think a he was really sort of just disaffected youth before but he seems some things man he. He's been in the backseat of cadillac. He killed corn half hand. Yeah he sees them things. Oh yeah exactly. That's amazing how that'll happen. Here's a fun. Little fact right. We never watched the opening sequence. Whenever i watched the opening sequence. I keep cash steve. He's still and so. And so ye the last episode. I was like Let's give a look and well..

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

08:44 min | Last month

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Nice solid visceral. What what how. Gross 'cause i'm like maybe he's going to be okay and i was like a he. Just yeah talked about a transformation. Someone's face yeah. Well and i it was fascinating too is because i mean that episode was relentless joffrey episode of just so like god. Hate this guy. Oh my god how and then they just kill them. when will what. We've talked a lot about the weather. They structure these seasons right. So this seems like an episode nine for sure. Yeah i mean. This is a big. It could be nine or ten right or like what i would say is this would be the nine ten would be whatever the aftermath is with tyrian. And then you leave off with some sort of a cliff hanger for his fate right. Well yes so. I think the idea is that okay. We've got sort of a rule of three going on like everyone's expecting episode nine to be the big thing so to throw this addis like episode to that. I mean right there like you said you weren't ready for it. Really known was ready for it. Even whereas happening i wasn't i wasn't thinking like i'm like i thought. Okay maybe he's just choking. And or maybe. He is mildly poisoned unable to deal with it right. I mean yeah. Yeah yeah and then now that sets up this whole notion of like oh. He's a danger and but now they also set up this budding conflict between joffrey. Jamie right. we're joffrey is just totally ridiculing. Jamie and jamie's just taken it and you just know like that's your dad dude. That's your dad. Not only is here dad but he could straight murder you right so you're of like that's building and you're thinking well that's that's getting juicy. Your long-term done that not at all not even a little over so yes. Oh tell me here you know i wanna hear your d- you missed joffrey. I know that you miss jaffer i do. I mean i don't miss looking at him but but for all the things we just talked about like joffrey be is in many ways. The necessary evil right. I mean the same way that rob would have been perceived as the necessary good Joffrey is the fly in the ointment like it just complicates everything. Because that's one of the things that's the most fascinating about joffrey is sure of using petuous. He's naive he's home seidel. He's all these things And he's the king and that's what makes it so fascinating is because you have all these other better players when you have the jamie's you have the tyrians you have anybody even searching for that matter but they're all just you're playing with you know as like an lost wet dynamite could go off at nine and then and then you're beholden to it right and that's the whole sequence that nobody can do anything when he's up there just tormenting tyrian and nobody likes it like i mean maybe seriously but like nobody really likes it because it's totally uncomfortable uncomfortable at sending. The message it sends is not like marjorie is trying to rehabilitate the the position and the perception right and so if he's up there just being cruel and at a minimum childish. This is not a leader that that we're following and that's the whole thing. She's trying to build right. She's trying to build a following more than just a leadership in name. Only and so so. This is undercutting all of that and it was just relentless his chopping of the book. Then it's the whole cup bearer thing and then he brings out the little play. Which by the way you could do a whole spin off on those guys And we'll i'll tell you this we're not gonna do this in the show so you won't really get this but in the books tyrian ends up with like this travelling road show with this other little person where he gets reduced to do next sort of thing interesting and the show never does that as a result of what i can't tell you that. Oh but the show never goes that direction with tyrian interest so he kind of in the books. At least he gets to see what his life would look like growing up without any prestige array. So before we move on. What was heather's reaction similar to mine. I mean she's just like could we pan away from the face to face. It was like there was like a good like if felt like solid three hours. Yeah it felt like an entire commercial for that faced all right so tyrian. Picks up the cup us clearly holding the cup. he was officially his cupbearer. Yeah joffrey and i'm seeing this whole like setup and this is where i get a little bit like guys okay all right however all right so let's just call it out tyrians the one guy who didn't do this right. He's like the only person like everyone else. They're probably has a motive for killing joffrey. Except for maybe sir sier whatever right but you almost kind of feel like you're really not sure what sir would be willing to do right after having this whole breakdown in this episode. This is one of those like who done it. But you know who is not going to be. The murderer is the first person that everyone suspects right and watching the whole thing. go down. that was such a reluctance to give him a cup. Why would he. You would have jumped right into the situation. Had this been premeditated. And then what have been premeditated. That's the thing right. Yeah but the thing is about this. Is that people. Don't really care about forensics in this world that's fair people care about like well who can kill and we come back on that closure whether it's right or wrong it's just one of the next thing so let's talk about the possible suspects here but i i guess i have to go back to this and this is where i'm going to have a little bit of a frustration. Ten wins the show is that they were all there. Everybody's watching this thing. Go down How could he have poisoned him. You know. I mean it's and so yeah he may be the one that was just then being tormented. But like everybody's watching it was happening right in. He didn't go off to get a cup getting off to get different wine. It was all happening right there. Well he's a demon monkey. And i guess that's that's so he's probably he's probably paid some sort of magician from across the sea to you know he's probably had this plan for fourteen years now for the people in this world to believe that terry and did it. It's not going to take much well. But that's the thing i could see sir see and i could see a few others but like time wins face when he just seemed to be like yeah. I guess it's him was like very much like that to me. Seemed a little bit in congress. Okay this we haven't talked about yet. However there is the scene where he thinks that she's cut she's cut tyrians lover right right and he has to pretend that sir c has the right prostitute right and then when he's acting for benefit he says you're gonna pay for this as soon as you think that something good is going to happen to your life. I'm gonna snatch it from you okay. So because he's protecting shea he has basically panta mind his motive possible motives to sursee and so now. Those words came out of his mouth. Yeah and sir. c is always kind of suspected. Well that's the that's the the result of the life that they've wrought right. I mean that's always got to be on guard. You're always waiting for the other one to do the because you were always waiting to thing. Yeah yeah so okay. Let's talk about possible suspects here so we know it's not i mean you know it's not tyrian to it'd be too obvious like you say there's just no way he would and would do it. It's gotta own stuff. I think we both agree that it's probably not seriously right. I would agree with. Taiwan is not thrilled. Well and the thing is is that the thing about thailand is time. It's a big picture guy.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

06:11 min | Last month

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"I don't think i can. Because sometimes i feel raw or tired and i snap and then all the sudden that that inner assholes like out there in the world the deal with the consequences of it right so i don't know i if you like the other part of the inner voice thing is that sometimes it will come in and make sense of something you've done so i think it's like braun. Who says well now that you've tasted blood new. You need a woman. Now right anterior says well i i'm willing to. She is and she and he gets these sort of men of war to laugh right. Yeah so he gets. He gets them to laugh. And then his inner voice jumps in and says That's a start. Yeah so it's like okay. Did he want did he. Just go for laugh because he likes to make people laugh and then the question is after that now that he's got them to laugh. Now how do. I use that for political leverage so i think i think a lotta times tyrian will act and in the case of catlin. I think he d like this little. There's something about sort of what's the heroic thing to do. I'm going to act on that. But then once he's done that that inner voices absolutely going to reorganize his thoughts and say okay. Now how can i use the situation to my advantage. Because he is you know at his core. He is a survivor. Yeah i think that's such a good point. There is that kind of i don't wanna say laps because it makes it sound as if it's faulty somehow but there's that inner voice and then there is the action and i think for tyrian. Most of the time he is able to pause long enough between the two to recognize what is the best course of not necessarily the right course of action but the best course of action that will get him to where he needs to be and it doesn't always happen that way for tyrian. I forget what passage. I was reading the other night where It's it's not in this chapter but he he keeps saying something and his invoice saying. You really should probably shut up right now. But he can't stop himself he keeps saying it. Do you remember that section talking about so. The inner voice is saying slowdown tyrian but he just keeps going but most of the time for tearing. You're right i mean. How many times is he sitting in front of taiwan and belongs to hurl his wine and taiwan space. But he does it. He holds back but he's thinking the entire time i hate you. I love you. You're terrible usually speaks pragmatically. The other thing you mentioned which i think is so interesting about this chapter and we see so many hints of this is he is so funny. There's so many times either in his inner voice where i just kept writing in the margins or he says things that are mitt to be humorous. But there's always that kind of edge behind them right. There's always that kind of deeper motive behind his humor and so he has gotten very used to either using humor as a way of calling out how he's being treated right the discrimination that he constantly faces to to point out somebody else's flaws right tearing just has this this brutal truth. He just puts it all out there and he's able to do that because he's the first to tell the truth about himself right. You can only tell the truth to somebody else about themselves if you're willing to do that for yourself. And so he does with john right when he first meets denied These conversations he says this who you are. Guess what this is who i am. You want to join the night's watch look who these people are. This is what you've gotten yourself into debt right. He does this constantly right as a way of revealing these larger truths about other people in himself. But then he also as you just said anthony and again you see all of this in this chapter. He also does it as a way of amassing power right gaining an advantage. And so you're right. He says to bron Yell all you know. I'll take catlin after he says you know you need a woman the minute the men laugh. He thinks a ha- right. If i can't win them over right now with gold if i can't you know employees these other strategies. I'm getting them to laugh. That's right. I'll i'll use that as a way of reeling them in and you see this especially in the subsequent chapters but it's that new kind of okay. Here's another survival technique in this instance Here's something else i can i can use. And so he always has regardless of anything. That's going on part of it is just he reads. He knows thanks right he. He has spent his life pouring through books and interacting with people and learning what works. And what doesn't but he's also smart because he knows how to adapt that fishy. We're talking about. He doesn't just rely on the same old things sometimes. He does but in this chapter. He's realizing oh here. A couple of other things i can use. I'm pretty good at battle because they don't see me coming. I didn't know that. I'm i'm pretty good at really braun. And he's other men by being one of the guys You know by making a sexist joke. It's so interesting to see how he just adapts and survives as he goes along beers one more thing about the inner voice that caught my attention. That is early in the chapter. He's you know he's sort of lamenting the loss of this horse. And there's this little passing thought that maybe the horse has the better of the situation and it's sort of like one of these things. You could read that as a joke. That's.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

08:54 min | Last month

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Welcome back to game of thrones to electric boop kalou. My name is anthony. And i don't mind saying that. I think this may be my favorite episode of electric blue coming up. It's got everything that i like about doing this project. I really like narrowing the scope and really looking at the minute. Shove the text at times and then widening the scope to see big picture stuff bringing in conversations from time to time. This episode includes jan doolittle wilson. She's one of my favorite conversation partners. Just to narrow win on particular details januzzi expert on gender studies and disability studies and she teaches classes on game of thrones at the university of tolosa. You get to hear steve shock and awe over the purple wedding totally took him by surprise. And i got to experience that episode a new through his eyes which is always fun and do a little bit of meta conversation to have further ado. Here's jan doolittle. Wasn't this is quite an action packed and bloody chapter. It is it is. It's it's actually one of my favorites when you told me. This is the one we would be discussing. I was excited woke. that's good. I'm so sad that that you said that. so why. why is it among your favorites. It's an overlooked but incredibly important section. I think interior in story arc and you know revisiting this. It reminded me of how. This chapter really illustrates all of the kind of qualities and strategies and forms of agency. That tyrian has really spent a lifetime. Honing just out of sheer necessity. But also we're starting to see the beginning of something else here as well and so you kind of have this accumulation of what we're starting to learn about tyrian. Matt how he has been able to survive in a world is incredibly cruel and discriminatory and has cast him out his entire life. But we also see the privileges that he has and how he is able to wield them to obviously tremendous effect not only survive but to show agency but then we also start to see another side of tyrian. Which is he's actually quite brave and he's actually extremely resourceful in a battle situation which you wouldn't initially think he would be and that will be very prominent theme for tyrian going forward so it's just this beautiful. I think kind of combination of what we're learning what we've seen what he's done in the past but also it's. It's a lot of looking forward as well. It's just a really beautiful chapter in so many ways and it hits it tearing stark site as well you know as the books go on kyrie gets darker and darker darker and you see you see some of that here. I think that you could read tyrian up until this point something of a survivor. And i mean in a couple of ways first off. He mentioned at one point comparing the west rosie culture to death rocky culture. Yeah that if he'd been born in different part of the world do different tribe he might have not survived his infancy right. So he's he's a survivor in that way but for the most part in most of his life and we imagine you know. He's in his early thirties or something like that. He's really a sort of a social survivor like he's learned to swim. He's like a tiny little no pun intended. He's a tiny little fish swimming in sort of this social ocean of sharks. And somehow he's been able to Navigate the waters and stay alive long enough and do well enough socially speaking right but at this point. I don't think he's ever experienced anything like this in his life. Where he actually. He's actually like a lot of his. Privileges are stripped pretty bare. He still has his wit. He still has his social education but he's never been asked to survive like this before exactly and so that's again where we see him. Employing the strategies that have always worked for him and some. Do you definitely see in this chapter the things that have always worked. Continue to work to a certain extent. But you're right anthony. He's in a very very different environment now. And so some of what has worked before simply doesn't work now and so he now has to come up with new strategies in new tactics and new forms that involve things. He's never really had to employ before and part of that is just new forms of cleverness right new forms of humor but it's also a new kind of physical strategy and you know even for somebody with all of tyrians privileges and advantages which we can talk about. The fact. is that you know. This world is extremely hostile to anyone living in it you know. It's it's not a forgiving environment. And so even somebody like tyrian who was born to wealth and privilege and nobility you know just existing in this world has a series of challenges that are really accentuated. I think given the different environments that he's in and that that people in general are in and you really see that in this chapter so you know. I think your your point is very valid and that's part of the reason i loved the chapter because you're right we now see him in this completely new environment where he does have to come up with new strategy survive his wit and i guess social education is being tested tested in a way that has never been tested before right And who knows like. I don't know if he's ever i. I know that He probably doesn't have zero martial training but we do get the sense that like. That's not really his thing that really. That's nice what's so beautiful about this and we can jump to new. The battle scene is that he has greatly disadvantaged. Obviously you're right. He did have some training. Just as a child of nobility he would have had some training at arm's And there's a section in the book where he refers to He had some tumbling training and of course his father cuts that off. But how how useful i think that tumbling draining becomes because he is able to use his short stature and the fact that nobody expects anything of him physically to huge advantage. Here you know he comes up from behind. He comes up from below. Nobody sees him coming. He's like darting rock tour. Starting rog dirac any becomes like this ninja warrior in ways that no one ever could have anticipated and i think in ways he himself is shocked by that. Well in most settings my height is a great disadvantage but in this particular battle. They don't see me coming and so he's able to employ them in ways that again allows him survive and allows for the survival of others. He saves a couple lives here right right. Let me read the Short synopsis of the chapter. Okay and we can talk more about the battle. Tyrian is bounded on his way to the erie. The ride has been hard on him made worse by bound hands and a hood over his face. He hits a low point. When one of catlin's men butchers his horse for meat affects back on the night of his capture and admires the wit and cunning of caitlyn stark. After a short exchange with cat about the true nature of peter bayliss. Little band of misfits is waylaid by a mountain clan. E battle ensues in the chaos tyrian is unbound and given an axe. Several men are struck down but tyrian cat braun and a few other survive for fear of a second wave of the battle. The group presses upward into the vale leaving several men unburied on the side of the road. So jan wilson. The you wanna talk about a character a theme a plot point or shall you and i climb the ladder of chaos..

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Walter Devron Hill Charged With Murder in Deaths of Gwinnett Brothers

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Walter Devron Hill Charged With Murder in Deaths of Gwinnett Brothers

"A suspect and the Gwinnett County jail with no bond and connection to a Lawrenceville double homicide earlier this year. WD US TERROR. Brawley has details. Manta Journal Constitution reports 28 year old Walter Devran Hill was arrested and charged Wednesday in the deaths of 28 year old Darius Miles and 21 Year old Christopher Smith. The two were reportedly shot to death as they were sleeping on March 28th their mother, Tyrion. Brown told the A. J. C that investigators secured enough evidence for hills arrest about two weeks ago. Authorities later located and arrested Hill into Cap

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

04:13 min | 4 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"I like secrets. This week's bird's eye view. I've been rereading caroline. Larry ellison's book. Winter is coming. And i thought a few paragraphs in here will answer a question that i got from rebecca so rebecca makes. I don't know much about the where the roses aside from a very superficial wikipedia skim but of heard that george may have gotten some inspiration from this. If you all have any expertise in this historical event and the extent to which may have inspired game of thrones. I'd be interested in knowing more. So here are a few lines from caroline. Larry ellison's book. Winter is coming. This is bloomsbury. Academic press by the way i published a few books with bloomsbury in the past and i find them a joy to work with so many authors out there that those are my two cents. This is larry ellison on page two. How far is the recent history of the seven kingdoms. A reworking of the fifteenth century war of the roses. Martin has declared the struggle for domination between the descendants of edward. The third was an inspiration for the politics of west coast and the chime of stark york and lancaster in lancaster is a suggestive one yet. Filtered through martin's powerful imagination and the epic vision of the show creators been often weiss. The facts of history are transmuted into something richer. Stranger more archetypal. Take the princes of the tower. Listen up rebecca here. We are edward and richard. The two sons of the king. Edward the fourth. After their father died suddenly in early fourteen eighty three their paternal uncle richard duke of gloucester took charge of the boys aged twelve and nine. They were lodged in the tower of london in preparation for edward's coronation. Then mysteriously. They disappeared an uncle. Richard sees the throne brennan rick and were never in line for the iron throne side. Note here Caroline you might want to add a footnote here in the revision. Of course though brand becomes winter fell but the motif of supposed death of the two innocent child is refracted more than once in the series in elliott mortels children as well as catlin's youngest sons and similarly sir she has been compared to several other troublesome and feisty medieval queens. We have a martyr. It'll have eleanor. We have isabella just to name a few. So in all of those ways yes. Martin is joined from where the roses and he has said so much in In print. i will say one little thing. I think i would strengthen a claim that larry ellison makes here. Richard is accused of disappearing. Murdering you know two young royal boys. That's exactly what happens to tyrian. They're not brothers but tyrian is accused of attempting to murder bran and he is also accused of killing joffrey. So yes even though martin is sort of a flipping the history on its head and ratcheting up the stakes in a fantasy epic. You can really see the dna for tyrian in richards Persona and moreover richard is rumoured. At at least in the tudor histories. To be a twisted and deformed person and this is you know. Sort of be speaking. His twisted and deformed personality so even if the rumors are not true what what martin likes to do is he takes the rumors of the middle ages and then he imbues his characters with these actualize them so teary an is often described as someone who has a twisted spine or something. I think that that is a direct. Oh my gosh to richard serra. I hope that's helpful. And my thanks again to caroline langton such a lovely book. I will look forward to having caroline.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

01:38 min | 4 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"I mean it's speaking of flayed men. We also meek luck at the very end of the episode. And i don't think he's named. He's the guy that takes jaime and brienne captive at the end. Gotcha okay. so the you're right. There are tons of new characters introduced. We got a was it a wok or war. What do they call the war. As i can oregon. Yeah we meet award. Or why wouldn't we. Yeah well in addition to that they used the us him they use that weird looking work guy to also reinforce sort of the rules around magic to brand right right okay. Yeah so. that's so. I guess you could say we meet two wars in this episode. We just didn't know what to call brand beforehand chur seemingly brands dreams. Make him something. A little bit more than award. He's a. i think that the correct term is going to be green sear but What osha calls. It is black magic dreams. And i think that that might be show only. I don't think that they raise in the books. But i you know you use the phrase black magic dreams. Shorthand you know most viewers are going to get a sense of what that would look like right there longing for a fleetwood mac song or something. Yeah or i want to black magic raven. i want to black magic raven. It was right there in front of me. This is why we bring on a professional comic.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

09:12 min | 4 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"What ayman says he says. Oh i think that lord tyrian is quite a large man. Master ayman said from the far end of the table. He spoke softly at the high officers of the night's watch all fell quiet the better to hear what the ancient had to say. I think he is a giant. Come among us here at the end of the world tyrian answer gently. I've been called many things. My lord but giant seldom one of them nonetheless. Mr chairman said as his clouded milk white is moved to tyrians face. I think it is true so you think that ayman sees teary and more clearly than anyone else at the table or anyone else on the story. Yeah exactly the same way that he sees join a better than everything else. i think. that's the big thing about ayman's that he might literally see but he sees much more than everyone else would say a trope right by people jersey. What the people caught but cicero warburton i. I got chills. Instant to think about this. Quite a statement okay. I've got a question about this. But i absolutely want to get to your theme. I so tell me more about the theme that you were on earlier. Yeah i just think that tyrian comes into this. World were dissolved horror for example. The way that's to in describes past a wall in the hunted forest really of is stephen king. He in the way that joe job much right set in the way that they predict doom. Have all those horror themes in it but in the meanwhile you have to. You're putting in this jokes in his. His job is very very striking. Brady brings out a change characters environment. And like i think the best way to illustrate it is the raven at the beginning of the chapter that keeps interrupting everyone that like says repeat dual when when the psoriasis on like a threatens tearing with the dual and then like repeats fool when airborne chats about how like self pity a full a start meant to be for comedy by no uses raven to read the these this uptake but martin. I think he's doing this intensity right. He's really trying to show. This is a world of horror material bringing huber here and he sees things humidity seat for from his is. Yes like gallows humor. And there's there's something about that that can kind of bring the truth into a situation in kind of a benign way at the same time. I do think that tyrian tyrian eight. His heart of hearts does not believe that the night's watch is an old and noble profession. He thinks it's a farce. I mean you think is an old profession. But i think that he thinks the night's watch is ridiculous and the people that think that they're doing any good up here. This is anything more than a penal colony or whatever they're fully themselves so when he makes a joke alsir thorne is right in the tearing making fun of them. Yeah and i think in a way the fact that tear comes from this perspective to them he comes with the perspective of misunderstanding was opposition and they all standards valley just jokes around and things. Everything's funny but in a way that kind of enables them to see things about each other that no one else sees. He's our first introduction to someone else the wall stone to to question you might. He might not actually question it in on paper in this chapter but the reader is start to think i feel like tyranny isn't necessarily an he's he starts to respect the war one more and respect the people at the wall and i think the people add will see substance you and other people might not because they also have this different perspective than others right right and he's you know he's smart he's and so there are very few people that are going to assess the situation in the same way that tyrian will And i think jordan sees that you know he's he's he you know we could use been like you up here Of course yours willing to take anyone that's his that's his job just to take any but But yeah no he. He kind of looks around the room and says there's no one here that can really take over for me when i'm gone. You know most of these guys can't read. you know. I know what these men are and they are not leaders which kind of introduces the sort of deficit is like a whole. That event that we would assume that eventually someone's going to need to fill right And of course. We know that that's going to be john eventually but But anyway. I i think that the point here is that tyrian does bring something new unique fresh to this really old institution do we think georgia's like cc. Salesman has the the the same the same phrases where everybody goes to your specialty. We would like you. I think he has to anyone willing to visit You know he's probably pleading with everyone is willing to visit because i think he has a script. Yeah yeah he probably does. I mean not to say that he. He's not also impressed by tyrian. But i think he sees interior in a way to get into the ear of the king in a way that he wouldn't have otherwise. I've got a question for you about um wh- ayman says okay. This is the second time the tyrian has been described as a giant yet. The first time he was with john snow and when he walks away his shadow is cast behind him and the shadow is like it could be the shadow of a giant. So big right then or and then so master aiming says it's a very directly and it's not meant to be a joke. He's trying to say in everyone at this at the table. Knows he's trying to say something true about tyrian right so then later on in dance tyrian this red priest name koro and macara has a vision of tyrian wearing. He's a giant that could be like a metaphor that he's you know he's actually a really important guy even though he's short of stature. Whatever i don't know what to think about this. I i have been waiting a habit entertaining. This idea that tyrie will undergo some kind of physical transformation. i'll see i'm surprised at bryant. Did have like vision of tyranny stepping on kingside. They must do well. He does brand here. Image of a giant. But it's like a stone giant and we're not really sure what that means but Yeah yeah so okay. So all right. So here's the thing about these guys all these guys I think it's possible that has something to do with dragons. Don't know don't know what the jackets come pro i. Well here's the thing. I think that John and ayman syrians right. We know that makoro has become this sort of prophet. That's promoting danny and cheery ins tyrians. Always had this fascination for dragons. And i think that he's like on some kind of religion course with danny and i think he's about to become sort of the. You know the military mind behind the dragons. So i don't know i don't i. I don't know tyrians a secret target. I don't know if he's going to write a drag. I don't know any of this. I don't feel like he needs to ride. I think i think that's accepted. So i guess they're three. There are three times. Martin likes to do this three times. Where this thing instead of a tyrian. It can't go nowhere. It has to come to fruition if it could just be a metaphor it could just be the. He's going to become like a giant military presence. But i wonder and that's a world of magic. I wonder i wonder if there's something else happening there. I think. I think that's sad because if you look at the like a denarius right. It's mentioned in the first book once that she takes a bath and then she said so. I think it's it's a cruiser to say that may okay. Maybe scientists mentioned three times. That's still could be to giant. All you know bright mart does i mean..

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

06:31 min | 7 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"So in the same time that we're sort of learning the hound is may be more complicated. We're also finding out that. Are you want dead. And then he ends up. Putting the mountain and polymer on her list of years right. you know. there's i think there's three actors ended up in mount ararat. Keep an eye out for the okay. The rotating mountain actors so it is a similar to like like game of thrones fans that are similar to james bond. Fans who insist. There's only like the this the best mountain on. i'm sure there are people that make that determination. But he's not exactly integral remember when they tried to swap out face with the different actor. Yeah i'm talking about eighteen Is one of the four actors. Yeah that's in debt Jerry seinfeld's dad changes The first time we see him he's right. I didn't know that okay. So that's her list. So gonna there's a lot made of arias list here. That for the first time so that i mean the assumption being that this list is like this is keeping her alive. The idea of getting her revenge dopamine. She's out there in the cold. She's laying on the ground. She's making her list so likes. That's she's got this idea. About to thrive on the idea of revenge which mirrors rob right. I mean Rob is exposed for not having a grand plan. Rob has a meet cute. They does have And this is the one that sort of reveals like. You don't most gauge. So you unsafe the king and then what and now. That's right now but meet cute. We could spell meat. 'cause you're we absolutely can cause some guys get meek cutoff. Yeah it's just. It was a relentless episode. Really it was. You have amputations going on. And he's impressed by talisa. Talita she is. she's a. She's caught by because of the way she wields surgical saw alan and what she puts to him as well. If you don't wanna be king then you're gonna throw this entire kingdom into chaos and then you're gonna go back up north and if you don't have a plan for what happens after the what. What are you thinking right. That is an interesting way to to frame it too. Because she's like it'd be one thing if you had this if i don't agree with the plan but at least i could say okay and then you're gonna rule fine. I guess but now it's like an you're just going to do it in essentially evanger father And and then go back home because evenings as well. And he's only ever sought counsel from people who are all in on the war right so this is sort of the first person who's said. Hey maybe this is kind of a stupid idea maybe vengeance. Is you only reason to go to war right. And now he's in his lower like kinda pot committed to this thing so we see the the barath ins. Oh yeah the ren leeann stanzas have their little car lay right right and rally really plays his hand about like what he sees in terms of leadership quality. But he's that leader that's like the friendly later. He played a lot of his hand by saying the word friends. Yeah that was interesting because we have that at howard theme extended right right. Got a few different people's take a different view of what power is and for ren leaf having friends and the right kind of friends is a source of power for him and you know sheer numbers. Sheer numbers are going to help out. And santa's gives him ultimate and did he already know. Smoke monster at this point was on the table and he didn't. He know that he's going to have a smoke baby. I think he knows something weird is going to happen. I not i might i. I got the take that the priestess was like. Hey you gotta get me. Get me a shore. It's all part of the plan or something on those lines. I don't he doesn't really want to know. Now like davos you get her to shore and we're never going to speak about this again. There's a motherhood theme in this. You got the mother. Dragons right stanton says to ren leave on for the sake of the mother who bore us right and then of course mela. Sandra gives birth appealing to to motherhood. Yeah once again for. He's just he's just a third he's a boy he's smart he's smart. He doesn't quite claim to have aria. You just said she's healthy in wild as ever. You know just giving enough information so the like denied later on exactly this episode. Has i think this episode departs from the book narratives more than any other. I've i've seen so far sarah. Yeah what being the big difference or differences. Well we talked about the joffrey. Seen right This does not happen. The books in fact. Roz the prostitute. She's not even a character in the bus. Oh so there's that that's kind of a pretty big so there another form of Joff raid demonstrating this or is this something that they've just made a choice for the series so joffrey is he's older in the books and discussion of mutilating a cat. When he was younger he does sort of a lot of psychological torture was sonza. So as somebody who's a a fan of the novel but is do for you from a flight looking at the trajectory of the character. And what happens next is it doesn't feel cheapen it does. This add a different nuance does. Now i just feel like okay. I'm on a different adventure. together. I think it's gratuitous. I think it's unnecessary. I feel like unless it's crucial for the larger statement that you're trying to make with the show that kind of grotesque violence specifically.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

04:29 min | 7 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Afterwards he realizes that actually tearing was was staking truly And perhaps tyrian just assumed that that was that what he was telling him was common knowledge essentially what he was telling him about the knights. What was common knowledge But it wasn't john reid this little portion here. i just think it's brilliant writing jer All right so stop it. Johnson said his face dark with anger. The nights watches a noble calling tyrian. Laughed you're too smart to believe that. The night's watch is a midden heap for all of the misfits of the realm. I've seen you looking at your in and his boys. Those your new brothers. Jon snow had he liked them sullen peasants. Debtors poachers raper's thieves and bastards. Like you all wind up at the wall watching for grump. Skains and starks. And all the other monsters your wagner's warned you. About the good part is there are no grump gins or snark. So it scarcely dangerous work. The bad part is that you freeze your balls off but since you're not allowed to breed anyway i don't suppose that matters. So that's i mean he's laying it on thick and then of course right after that ghosts. Kind of settles the argument. I suppose but. I think i think he certainly i if there's if there's such a thing as sort of mind bullying i think. I think that's what's happening here. I and i think that tyrian knows it. Afterwards he feels a little bit guilty that he lays it on so thick. Afterwards you know this may be biased talking because of course we justice readers. You can't help but grow to love tyrian and root for him. But i i just i feel like when i'm reading that he's laying it on thick but i feel like he is at the same time commiserating and going over. You know something that. John should know Whereas like i want you to imagine that speech would be delivered differently. But i want you to imagine taiwian being there instead of tyrian And him being quite direct and quite honest about what john was doing in his lot in life there would be no warmth or humor there. You know it would take on a very different tone. And it would. I mean especially given is Is political power would be very frightening you know tyrian. Has it's odd to think about this as a strength that essentially in his back pocket. He always has his his physical weakness in that. Like you know basically. He knows that at any point time anybody could shut him up if they wanted to And i think that he kind of assumes that isn't a common ground at all times so i i don't i don't read it as straight bullying but i will admit that there may indeed be bias there. Because you know you are. You're supposed to like this character. I think i think that there's also something about tyrian where he walks into every room already swinging verbally like he knows he knows. There's going to be someone in that room. That's gonna make some stupid joke that he's heard a thousand times and he just decides i'm gonna come in swinging. I am going to come in and lay down the law with an insult or some witty self deprecating humor. Something like that. So that people know what they're dealing with that they know that they're dealing with a war hammer of a mind. And i think the fat can i mean maybe despite himself. Maybe he doesn't too much because he's expecting a war of words from the get-go but boy it's great to remain. You wouldn't want to. Yeah i wouldn't necessarily want to like share an office cubicle with tear but it's fun to read on the page. It's i think it's also a bit of a youngest sibling. syndrome. And that. If you imagine like you know any sort of meeting or get together or whatever. Nobody's saying.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

02:50 min | 7 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Keith. Who's an expert on the book. Culture without further ado here is boasts. May iran aragon iran from the expanse. You know that one of the key actors is going to go by the end of the season Let's say you can recap you have all the power to recast that actor but you have to choose an actor. From game of thrones. Oh dan done. I mean have you seen The kingsman like sequel pedro pascal with a drawing southern accent in a cowboy hat with the whip. I mean just just yeah. That's that's a massive upgrade. Nature's way there's no way you get pedro pascal. Because he's got like game thrones amando money now Woman money now. He's got wonder woman. Money's got kingsman money's he's got he doesn't need your your silly space opera but he would be amazing. Alex holy shit. It'd be an amazing alex. Great regret that's good see. This is what i'm talking about. 'cause i'm trying to think of any other characters of like kind of east asia and the best thing is pedro. Pascal wouldn't be east asian. He'd be kind of south american play in east asian. Now we're not east. Asian characters. On game of thrones right like docker ashir is. He wasn't he no. I always thought. He was latino. But i could be wrong. Actor maybe spanish with the last name acidic. These got no. That's a good question. He could be middle eastern yared. Because there's always from the sudan. He's african i no So yeah that's not exactly but let's that would be the thing is is he's just. I don't think you'd alexander said is a great character actor I don't think he would do great for. He doesn't have the bassetti. You kind of need that. Sort of young brash. You need the kinda guy that wants to go hang out in a cowboy bar and really enjoy it and he's also gone to see that's crucial to the You know like like he can't be like a twenty year old. It needs to be late. Thirties forties even early fifties. If you can get it Interesting okay so it. Hey everybody if you're not watching the expanse you gotta gotta tune in pretty good show. If you have a question for iran or anthony you can send those to book at bald move dot com support for this. Podcast comes from progressive..

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

08:09 min | 9 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Yeah i was quite the back and forth. Yeah i i'm a big fan of. Yeah yeah i suppose you could say i'm a little bit like they're in a few ways our any of them biological. Yes but i'm not gonna tell you which ways now i'm gonna lie awake at night. All right well. I think i would like to open this to you. Were covering the last two episodes of season one. And i'm just going to open this to you. Steve what do you wanna talk about. Suppressing from a production respective then. That's the way baylor ended that that wouldn't be the miley at the season. Finale right so so it would so you you were wise. You wanna combine the israelis from a my view in perspective. But i did feel like you could just end in right there. I mean i think it's genius. I think it's like they're saying to the audience know. This isn't even the season finale. We try something else in store for the season finale. I agree with that. But there was aspects of the season finale that felt like the first episode of season. Yeah makes sense and again you know. I've grown accustomed to who shot. Jr type season finale I mean there was some resolution there but it was it was the sort of resolution that it was sort of like will now. Where do they go with this. Like john says surreal and bring me his head. Santa feints sir. C servcies klusener shit. She's screaming everyone but the heads men basically in the hound. They're like they're pretty stoic. But everyone else is just totally losing it. So this is. I mean this is a big moment right. I mean this is a this is this is why you just don't you shouldn't let teenagers do anything and agency whatsoever. Because i mean look. Let's just forget about the fact that he's hideous but let's just go just thinking that he has had unwarranted entitlement because he's such a good looking young man. Yeah that's not the case. I think we talked about this last week. The children's speak as as they're doing impressions of adults. Yeah sure this is a perfect example of that. Right as i got with myself. Has this type of leader right now and you know and it does reek of of youthful naivety. But at the same time. It's like it's not outside of the this type of world at a king would behave that way. Well that's right. And i mean joffrey is immoral monster. We know that already and yet would you be comfortable with any teenage boy. Having unlimited autocracy. I mean any any kind of teenage boy with fully authorised -tarian power. He's he's gonna play with it. I mean he's gonna see what the limits are is going to see how what what feels like to be had some fool. He's he's a he's awful and he's a unique creature. I mean he's a he's a beautiful but dangerous exactly like a blind salamander that you find when digging. Interestingly enough when various has talking with net about why he did what he did it was something like what madness lead you to tell the queen what you had learned. And he says the madness of mercy. He thought that if he told sir that he knew that is going to tell robert than she would. High tail it out of king's landing with oliver children and maybe the children could be spared. 'cause russia it was just gonna kill. Kill them all right. 'cause that's kinda robert robert likes to do such things And so he was actually trying to save jaffrey's life yeah bevin workout so well arias running away and we meet a character. I don't know if you cut his name. He's the little fat boy that she intimidates. Yes we'll be catch his name. I don't recall his name hot pie. that's awesome. He will return in season. Two all good. So i if you hadn't caught that maybe you'd like to know that means how that's amazing. Shag is ax. I sega access. Man that was i watched that same twice at least just the the way it said i mean tyrian. Just struggle licenses. There's a huge father son team. We meet walder fray. He's the old lecherous guy who Has too many sons and he wants to his daughters off He's he's a treat he's just treat so you got him showcasing his fatherly capabilities. And you've got robin ned. The robinet things arrives gonna try to save his father. You've got tie win in that episode you have tyrian story of how win dealt with this woman that he had married when he was a young man and i think that whether by either metaphor or despite literal gender assignment. I think ned and aria kind of fit into this father son team as well. What happens is because of neds actions. And what happens to ned then. The question nex is. What's going to happen to aria. Where what is nets legacy for his children and immediately you kind of get the sense that okay arias. Just she's completely unanswered she's adrift. Her life is in danger and immediately in the next episode she gets grabbed by urine and he very helpfully reassigned her gender for her so. I think that there's a big father son theme here and i think that the question we're supposed to be asking is what of the father's done that will either improve the prospects of their sons or are the sun's just sort of living with the consequences of the father's sins or stupidity. Or whatever. you wanna call it right. Yeah that definitely permeates right. And that's and that's where the complicated decision making comes into play. And then of course then we've got the the elimination of both father and son in the doth racking narrative. Yeah absolutely. that's right so you have a hard reset right a hard reset. where essentially. She both kills her her husband and her son in one respect one seemed more like oops didn't realize that was the exchange but on the other hand i don't i don't know. I think that she kinda knew what she was trading. I mean the horse thing was sort of a relief to her. But i think it was before mary. Masdar says bring me as hoarse. I kinda feel like she's willing to trade almost anything for joining us live right so that brings up a question too and this is something that And found out that my wife who had watched the first season she only made it to the she made it through the final episode but not. She never finished the final episode. She got to the point where he said. Look at your father's head. And then she had a posit and do something in our subscription ran out. That's a good way to end. The season is exactly. That was pretty funny so she was not super thrilled. That i was like. Yeah we're going to end it right here. We can watch the next season like right now. And i'm like. I.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

01:35 min | 9 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Would always walk around in in flowing robes that just seems oh. Yeah had padded silk slippers The character i feel like deep down inside is are you. And that's basically because of just sort of being the black sheep of the family sort of being isolated from my family You know geographically act sheep of your family. Well i mean the blackfish of the ladonna. Howson i am a little blackfish. Yeah because i have. I have six siblings and my family. Big italian family. They all live within about an hour of each other in california. And i'm the only one that i'm like. I'm escaped across the narrow sea. I'm somewhere else doing something else. Yeah you know so. Yeah a little bit. You're you got your gold forked beard and your blue mustache. Yeah right you're trained you're strange dress and grooming abbots. Because i just love aria. I mean she's a she's easily my favorite character And she's she's also a character that can kind of put on different visage from time to time so she doesn't reveal what's going on her in her internal world. All right man. I think we covered some awesome. Now i think we. We made a meal out of the six pages on mcdonald's today i shall have the quarter pounder with cheese extra muster a half a ten piece chicken.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

06:29 min | 9 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Sometimes i love look. I loved english. I know he's really important character. We all celebrate. Peter anchorage at times. I feel like i really wish. I really wish they would have found a british actor for this role just for that reason. I know that. I know for a what they've said. In retrospect everyone loves d- english but when they were casting he was the only person on the list you know he tried out for the part. They didn't try out anyone else for the part well. Maybe i'm too much of a linkage defender. Because his work. His voice work in destiny as the the robot. Ghost is almost universally reviled. And i quite enjoyed it so maybe i just love the way. The man's voice the way demands voice sounds these foe. Br british slightly mechanical. I'll take it whatever you just want him. Reading fairy tales as you drift off to sleep. Yeah can be gps navigator. We will end with this question in all of the books any character and all of ice and fire the character that your friends and family think you are versus the character deep down inside you know you are so it's a two part question. Oh man i had. There's no way i can answer this with that. Make an just a giant asshole Okay here's our balancing. I think my friend. I think my friends and family probably would choose tyrian. Okay because i am pretty scott sharp sharp tongue. I d like to read a lot. I do like to expound on you know i'm not telling tales on myself i think i tend to be pretty I can be a blowhard and and opine and And then the bouncing out. I'll say i deep down moon boy the because that because i don't think i don't think that highly of myself Let me see who's a character that's very conflict. Who's a character. Because i i'm trying to think of the character. It is very conflicted and might have a decent amount abilities but always second Second guesses and doubts themselves. Because that's who would that be Who yeah well. Santa santa has more ability than she knows. Yeah start off life pretty air. Yeah are are you does. She really doubt herself then. Thinking like maybe later book smell asandra. Yeah go head coach. Les book smell. Asandra might be good because like you know like her i. I grew up Very devout and firing my beliefs and then was proven wrong about everything and then lately wonder like gee we gee whiz what is the best use of my time. What should i be talking about. What what action should i champion Been wrong about everything. should i do. Even have the right to open my mouth about anything. That's that's a pretty. That's a pretty good erin analog. Yeah mel starts out pretty certain about herself and then sort of drifts into doubt but she doesn't doubt that has a sort of a political role to play That's interesting i would. Have you know what. I would have never made that connection between you and male so as a member. My friends and family. How would you identify may. Well i mean. I think you're kinda classic tyrian so so it. It really does work with what you were just saying. I was just wondering. Like if i wanted a podcast in the world of west rose and i wanted to characters to start a podcast tyrian would definitely be one of these character Yeah no i think at tyrian works for you and it makes sense to me that you don't see yourself as tyrian in that way but you know you drink a no things. That's that's a very iran. Iran that like couple birthdays backed. My mother-in-law got me that t shirt for my birthday. So it's like yeah yeah it works it works all right man who will Gosh i probably speak for thirty thousand people. When i say it's just really fun to hear your voice on this this feat again relig- yeah no. It's it's been a lot of fun. I really enjoyed my reread of the early goings. Game of thrones. I guess kindle tells me. I'm like already fifteen percent way through it. The just at the chapter nine so really pulling for you I hope that people are enjoying it as as as much as i did. And who knows. Maybe i'll pop back up again in the future. Well any say anytime more of you less of me would risk would really do wonders for this particular puck. We'll see. I think he got a pretty strong brand wet. Let me ask you that same question just out of curiosity yourself as he do you think your friends. That's us off as well. I've been asked this before. And here's what i said. I think that the character that my colleagues friends and family would probably see me as various because Yeah i think so. Because i think various keeps his cards very close to himself. But he's always very polite east politically savvy and i think i think some people because i can be sort of an interior creature. I think some people can be a little suspicious like most he really thinking. You know You know can we really trust him. So i think was would be what how other people view me also either. I don't have a whole lot of hair. And if i could i would always walk around in in flowing robes that just seems oh. Yeah had padded silk slippers The character i feel like deep down inside is are you. And that's basically because of just sort of being the black sheep of the family sort of being isolated.

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

08:40 min | 9 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"That this tyrians bullishness is played up a lot more with martin than it isn't in any. Hbo application we get a lot of tyrians hedonism in the show. Yes you don't get we sort of a hint a nod and a wink toward his bookish nece But not nearly as much as the other thing. Now like i mean. He's he's got the the line later. He gives john that like you know a book is like a wet stone and my weapon is my mind etc etc but like it's almost like They wanted to really make an impression on us and they'd made a big impression with the manner of tyrians you know he's he's He's living like he wants to die with the girls math around this cock as he's drinking an improbable amount of alcohol And then later they start adding in the nuance where you know he. He's this guy who's very smart brainy and all that kind of stuff. I don't know that's probably i mean i think that's i'll actually give did double d some credit. I think they're pretty good at that. P- pretty good at adapting written material to to the screen. Because you want to have like these big splash introductions and then fill it in. You know it's kinda like They an adaptation Is kind of like a bob. Ross painting where like you. It's sometimes you're better off splashing onto huge blotch of colors and then he had the shade. And then you add the shapes and then you drag your knife down and shade inside and it gets better whereas in the book you can kind of like paint more in the details. Like just just hires a twig. Here's the leafs and oh it's going to become a tree because just the pacing and the way we absorb that information is is different but in in a visual medium. You wanna hit someone face an indelible image and they certainly did that whereas if he just imagine the same thing entering. Yeah i think. I prefer it that way because like i'm trying to think of like literally following him where he's getting up You all the stuff happing in his head where he's judging the septum for what he's reading and mentioning that it's all you know too stuffy and that's why i fell asleep. We miss all that because there's no way to communicate it and he's tiptoeing down a staircase. It's like yeah. I think they probably did the smart thing. I was interviewing janna matthews said something. I never considered. But i think is totally true. That in the early stages of game of thrones The show runners are really trying to capture a certain demographic of male and in specifically capture the male gaze in in the way that they're portrayed sex on screen and so it's not just it's not just sex it's sex that would sort of be speak soft porn or something like that. So they're trying to draw a certain kind of audience member and they're using tyrian in this way a few different in a few different cases. And so what what's gonna excite people vegetarian. While he's you know he's he's poly-amorous what's not going to excite people vegetarian hill out rita septum. You know that's just not nearly as sexy to know that about tyrian. I wanted to ask you this question because a lot of people have opinions about it There there are differences between the way the actors look verses the way that they're described in the book and maybe tyrian his the most significant of these So and i feel like people are pretty divided. Pe- some people would rather the book description be portrayed on the screen but then there are a lot of people that are pretty happy with with gingrich and maybe think it'd be he's a better character because he's because he's as handsome as peter includes what what do you think. I think that we are last that we had an actor who had made a point to not just do dwarf roles to pass on some that my that the gopher things that were substance to work on his craft to do things amazing sketches of how it feels to be a little person in something like the station agent which i i don't know if you've seen but like a fucking powerhouse english performance check that out and we had this guy who had been quietly doing all these things to make himself like the ultimate. Yes he is too handsome. But you gotta be pretty picky. Go and find a little person. Actor who is physically deformed and you know has got a hunchback and walks with like like in also can act in this extraordinarily Brave and human fashion. Like boy. I don't know because the thing is like you. The way we relate to characters in books are is more kind of like an altruistic way we interface with them like on their intellectual and soul level. We see inner thoughts we can see there. We can literally see their inner beauty with their is. Because that's how we see them through their thoughts and there were on the screen we Interface with characters. The way we do in real life which means unfortunately conventional people get the shaft. Yeah i think so. No and i i. I think i'm able to hold both images in my mind as i'm reading. I mean i certainly see gingrich when i'm reading tyrian. All kind of switch over to this character as as he is meant to be depicted in the book. So i'm almost holding these two images simultaneously whereas with someone like i only see lena heady that's the only thing i see when i read sure what i've always. I've also thought to that like some of these are lake. How sure are we that these characters are actually as disgusting as they're portrayed. Because you know we hear that aria in early goings is horseface faced and manley faced and god and ganglion on but yet we also hear that she favours her aunt. Leanna who is one of the most beautiful is was just one of those beautiful women in the seven kingdoms. we're told debris an is ugly because she's manish and she's brutish and she's got thick lips and a broad smile and beautiful golden hair and large luminous is and. I'm thinking like really like this. Could easily be julia roberts type or carly simon type but is she ugly because she's defying the conventional stereotypes as she like is it. She's she's a threat in the same way that like it. Turns out are probably very beautiful. But her sister's is kind of a prick and oliver ladies awaiting or picking on her. And you know they're they're doing the mean girl thing where they're tearing down so it's like every time i read characters reportedly hideous and then i see them you know portray like you know. Brian is portrayed by the quite pretty gwendolyn christie. Always things like well. That's that's where the prejudices of the time or meeting with the reality which these people might not be that ugly at all. It's just that's what people are saying about them. Because they're trying to run him down. And i don't know to what extent like you know. They're pretty graphic and the hunchback and he's kind of twisted and he's got a fucked up gate and mismatched eyes and some stuff like that but i is that more of him you know like like the rumors of him having monstrous animal features and bat wings entail like. Is that just like the most ridiculous form of that where he's internalize those thoughts about people and maybe he is more peter Conventionally handsome it just. We don't people who can't seem that way. Cause he's a stunt dwarf. you know. i've never heard anyone criticized englishes british accent. But i find it wanting probably gonna make a lot of enemies but i can tell. You're you're trying to make this accent work and it's not quite working. Is that ever occurred to you. Know it hasn't Like i never like for instance like Who who plays jamie nicolai kostov disaster. While i am well. Well now. I mean that that i mean i just. I never questioned his anything about his performance..

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

10:11 min | 9 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"And you know. He's funny he he's he's one down position like he's he talked to previous chapter. Jon snow the bastard. They're all doors bastards. Yet he had the temerity to slap the crown prince something that even a very dangerous character seems to think as dangerous. And he's got this devil may care attitude towards his family And you wonder how much of his family's secrets do. Does he know. Because we've got introduced to some family secrets in the previous. It's a lot like you said it's a lot in six pages. Yeah okay so two things. He said something that i hadn't thought of before but really makes a lot of sense. So we're meeting these characters for the very first time in these first few chapters but in a way martin's meeting them for the first time if ever you've tried your hand writing fiction You know these. These characters are not usually not fully formed in your head. You kind of meet them. You discover them as you writing them and so these first meetings are really giving ago. Trying something on for size terry tumbler. Maybe maybe maybe. In the next time i entered his him he'll be you know massaging his legs because they really don't work very well and one of his shoulders as rounded in a twisted way because of his entire bodies twisted. It almost looks like he has gotten rid of this able bodied tyrian That we've met just just a couple chapters. He's already discovered something. That's more interesting about tyrian that he wants to play up a little bit differently. Yeah the other thing is he. Does this kind of like You know anytime you want to establish like on star trek the next generation anytime you want to stab characters bad ass us having kick works ass and wharf is the toughest guy in the enterprise and this guy just threw war through a bulk it. Oh my god. He's amazing and like they do a little bit of this and we're like tyrian has out studied a septum. You know like these. This stuffy cleric who spins his time probably Like especially what a sept and have to do. It's winter fell. He just stirred reading books and and tyrian reads him into dirt. He's like you know tyrians gone all night long gone through. Candles gone through mugs. Avail and this guy passed out over his history like in the wee hours of the morning. It's a little bit like showing that tyrian is a more serious student than these serious professional student class of west coast. Yeah not only that but he notices what the sections reading like. The sept ends like passed out on his book. He notices it. What the symptoms reading and. He's like typical course. The septum would be reading that idiot and yeah him him instructing. The winter fell librarian. And how to better look after his his stock. It's it's pretty good. Pretty good introduction as the skies a scholarly person all right so aron. This is the guest choice portion of the podcast wherein you can choose to talk about a character fema plot points or we can just climb the ladder of chaos together. I mean i think we would be sued for podcast malpractice. If we didn't talk about the character tyrian in his first name chapter right. I yeah exactly. What do you say about tyrian I'm gonna. I'm gonna make a couple of statements to see what sticks Is tyrian at gerry. Stu a lot of is so gary. If you don't know is a literary term Most common you hear. It says mary sue where author self inserts themselves onto the material and give them all the awesome qualities and maybe they have a couple of apparently negative qualities. They're actually pluses. Like you know you look at the bella from twilight you know she's She's a misfit outcast teenager with super pale sallow skin but she also has chased after by by the most beautiful boy in school etc A lot of people say that like sam. Charlie is the gary stew. that's the George are martin but like is it secretly tyrian. Well i think that with a mary sue character. In addition to having some of the notable qualities of the author it all this character also has to sort of achieve some fantasy that the authors are always had like like. You know like so. Let's say george martin has always sort of you know lamented his own body but he is. He's always felt like he's pretty quick witted and this fits tyrian but what's the one thing that the tyrian can do. The george martin's always wanted to do that can only be fulfilled by a fictional character. I think i'd sach molds women at a time while he's quaffing beer so yes so that And so maybe maybe george martin can live out. His weird perverted fantasies. Do tearing in. Which case i think than i think that many characters this aired maybe married sues for verdict perverted idealization. It's it's funny because the deterioration is like this character. Who had not the hours like like. I think it's interesting to think about what would happen to these people If the events of the book happen you know what if the the days of robert breath the and are allowed to run out peacefully. And i think of like you know tearing would be such a boring character because he would continue to kind of go about west. Rose do whatever he wants Read a bunch of books Soon frequent the bunch of sex and probably drink himself into an early grave but because that he finds himself kind of plunged into the middle of this murder mystery that is the kind of lag matched it sets off the powder. Keg that is the post rebellion. West rose seven kingdoms He gets to be this dynamic figure of destiny and it's super frustrating to talk about because we ultimately don't know where that ends for him. It's funny you say that. Because i feel like i look back at these early tyrian years with nostalgia like wasn't he fun when he was just sort of like saying. Screw you to everyone. He needs he of understands everyone's motives better than they understand them themselves. And he's just drinking and just he's just a hedonist and i and when he becomes handed the king and when he becomes a prisoner in exile. It's almost like I kinda kinda wish we could have fun tearing again but what you're saying that makes a lot of sense as that that tyrian couldn't have existed for very long and remained interesting. We really need to see him. Go into the pit and try to think his way out of the pit in order for him to get interesting right thing about this chapter that i found really interesting. Is that tyrian. Well first of all this isn't just the first. Pov chapter from lancaster. This is the first pew of each chapter of anyone who resides in king's landing So we are being introduced to people like the hound and joffrey and sir c and jamie and russillo all through tyrians point of view and in set in a very short amount of pages. Tyrie has a much different interaction with all of these characters. And so what we see here is. We're seeing the politics of king's landing for the first time through the eyes of someone who knows that world pretty well and i'm thinking specifically of the joffrey interaction and it's almost like tyrian knows very well that anything. He does too slight joffrey May come back on him eventually. in fact the hound says look. He's going to remember that so had enough if that shows lack of foresight or whether he just thinks i'll deal with that when when the time comes but that's an interesting dynamic is going to have major consequences later on. Yeah that's the funny thing is like for a gardener. He really garden himself in some good situations. Because this has nephew remain will remember that. It's gonna pay off handsomely in the next novels where his nephew's going to be elevated to boy king. Yeah anterior is gonna have this lag. Well i had the cloak of my father's authority ultimate authority protecting me but you know you can feel kind of frustration and fear with you know working with this material. He's got and like you know. What do we do about the sky but like you all these things that he did kinda cavalierly thinking that he would be deck a decade maybe multiple decades away. Maybe he'd be dead. And like i said drunk himself into a gray before he has to deal with all of and in the meantime fuck it because ultimately that i struck reading this when you look at kind of the you know jamie's deadly His father always travels with an honor. Guard Joffrey has the hound as a sworn shield. I'm kind of amazed that doesn't have some form of protection like the bron- relationship works so well and it's another thing that feels like martin kinda garden himself into it feels tearing feels kind of naked without. Yeah you know someone to back up his swagger and bluster you gotta wonder like when he's been wondering the seven kingdoms kind of reading books and doing like an and insulting people and having his barbed tongue like. Why isn't a commodore. Like put an end to this guy What's what's expected him. Yeah his interaction with the hound is really interesting. Because there's a decided class action between these two. The hound is towering over him the hound and he's he's just this muscled..

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"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

Game of Thrones The Podcast

08:44 min | 9 months ago

"tyrion" Discussed on Game of Thrones The Podcast

"Here is both meng erron hubbard arun. Welcome back to your own podcast. Yeah man you got the band back together again. The the dynamic duo. The gods the thrones boys parade. Burn the steps down profaning the sacred one last heist we can go into retirement. So orion was is your relationship to your own voice You know. That's a good question. Because i used to share a revulsion of hearing myself recorded and like you know if you ever you hear on answering machines or whatever as do most all right and it was cringe-worthy as fuck to hear that but then i noticed something and i don't know exactly when i lost it but somewhere over the last few years what i sound like inside my head and outside my head have merged because i've heard myself so much on podcasts. Videos and editing and that like there's no gap there's no it's like if i walked around naked all day gap. This is what my body looks like. i feel like i'm vocally naked. I'm just aware of all my flaws embraced. This is an interesting question of human perception. Because you've probably trained your self to hear yourself differently than most people do because you're listening to recordings of yourself so off And usually the critical ear. Like what am i doing wrong here. How many times am i going to say In thirty seconds span that kind of stuff. But yeah i i hear that like the gap is because you know the houston inside your head or way different than koos outside so you actually have a real difference in the perception of your voice inside versus outside your head but i guess if you listen to it enough it kinda your brain normalizes it. I mean yeah absolutely it normalizes it and this is sort of a feature of human perception whereas like you've done a bit of sailing right sure. Good friend of mine is a longtime sailor and he can see wind before he feels it because he's drained his eyes to notice what's happening on the waves. There's lots of cultures who have like several more colors than we do in. And so you can actually train your perception to pick up things that you previously couldn't and my guess is that you you've trained your perception to hear yourself differently than how you did before see. I thought as more of like the saturation theory. Like if you grew up on a pig farm you don't smell pig shit So like I've been living in the pig farm of my voice for the last two years. So i just don't i hear how offensive it is anymore. Been wallowing in your own muck. Yeah yeah exactly. I've i've saturated that that Arl nerve that offended by your voice. Yeah all right iran. What did you have for breakfast. Oh this is interesting because my wife sat me down. And maybe watch What does that harley quinn. Birds of prey. Sure didn't make me but i wasn't super excited to watch it. But she had seen it and said it was amazing She's right That's actually a really good dc movie Harley quinn eats what. She describes as the most perfect breakfast sandwich which is Like egg and bacon sandwich on shibata bread And cecil made us those sandwiches this morning and it was pretty amazing. The reason i ask. Yeah the reason i ask. Oh gosh my breakfast was horrible. It was like egg whites and like cauliflower cakes. Horrible horrible but tyrannus. yeah the burn black bacon. He tyrian had for breakfast. He had bred a little fish like i dunno sardines or something darcom year and blackened bacon. How's that sound to you at sounds like That bacon sons slow like eating cancer That's i it's funny. Because i grew up thinking that is hated bacon but when i became an adult i realized because my mom burnt bacon bacon. Was this salty. Bark that you you know you endured on the side of eggs or something if you want a little bit of protein. I had no idea that you could get like thick. Cut bacon that you half the burn bacon so like it's kind of like it's a little bit finding out like tyrian. Likes is steak. Well done with ketchup. He's just doing it wrong. There's no other like you said a well. Read smart considerate guy. And he's just doing bacon wrong and my he actually requests it that way. He goes out of his way to say. Burn it black. I mean bacon a bit of crispy bacon like. I think that there's like it can't be just flaccid and soggy. That's a little bit of a backbone spine but yeah you get the full burnt black that's Look that's in salty. Charcoal seems okay. Now what if what. If i served you star. Deans and dark beer for breakfast. I i wonder if tyrians done some kind of crazy reading of a mad maistre that has some kind of afridis eac like you know. This is West rose viagra. The support is other appetites. Because such a weird combo he was reading arch maistre libidos long treatise on orgies. I suppose is the art of love as opposed the art of war Right here. I wanna do a quick synopsis on this chapter. And then we can fill in any any gaps in our conversation or as we are covering chapter nine this tyrians. I point of view chapter. We meet tyrian in the library at winner fell and he's been reading all night and so he gets up and he talks to us to tell them to return the scrolls. He goes down He discusses brands situation with joffrey in the hound and it seems that this is about four days since brands fall and then after chiding and disciplining his nephew with a couple noteworthy slaps and a little exchange with the hound he goes in. He meets his brother his sister and his nephew and his niece. Who are breaking their fast. And he has a conversation about brand with them. And that is the chapter in a nutshell. It's only six pages. And but i think it's doing a lot of heavy lifting for that short of space. What do you think. yeah no. I was actually shocked at how short it was two. When i got because like you know i decided to sit down and read All the chapters leading up to this new due diligence and had been a long time. Since i read and i really got into it like by the time i was getting to deteriorate chapter. I was like man. If i wasn't rereading the dune series but I was having a lot of fun gets tyrian chapter in like all right. Here's this is. This is decided and then It was it was like a roller coaster. Ride it was it was over before I felt like it began. But yeah. I was just struck when i was reading these early. Chapters of seeing like how martin was still kind of rounding gardner way himself into some of these characters like what what what what. Shameless unrepentant flounces. Both john snow and area are lying like prone to tears burning with rage. Red faced shameful storming out of rooms and great halls. Because they're embarrassed and and how like that doesn't stick around very long and and chapter five you have tyrian You know george martin playing around with you know what. Maybe i'm going to have a tumbler. That'll be cute. Have the little guy writes have a tumble routine and he. He mentioned that being one of his few regrets of of his early characterizations. But just like he is. He's doing he's he's hitting all the notes like why he wants us clearly to love tyrian so he paints them as very smart. He paints them as kind of cool detached from the family that he started. You know the the martin's already ten chapters in painting as kind of dastardly nine chapters ten with the prologue and you know. He's funny he he's he's one down position like he's he talked to previous chapter. Jon snow the bastard..

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Talkin' Baseball with Marty Lurie

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Houston Rockets, New York's Brooklyn Nets Rumored To Be Discussing Blockbuster Trade

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"tyrion" Discussed on KQED Radio

KQED Radio

01:39 min | 1 year ago

"tyrion" Discussed on KQED Radio

"Yes you'll see you want to hear you admit you poisoned the king of that I'm innocent I think you have a fall more monstrous crime I'm guilty of being a jewel your note on trial for being a dual I often that my entire life Dinklage who is four and a half feet tall gave Tyrion a towering presence any one four Emmys for his performance the game of thrones ended this year and Dinklage has gone back to his roots on state I'm I'm I've done twelve shows in the past eight days and I'm fried okay gotcha no problem English is the lead in a new adaptation of Cyrano the classic play about a romantic who tries to win the woman he loves despite his extraordinarily large an unattractive knows Dinklage came in recently to talk with the staff writer Michael Sherman and they spoke about how he connects with the character of searing I never felt a connection with the nose of it all as a person who looks like me whenever I would watch us version of Cyrano I would just think about that's an actor in a fake nose and we wanted to really strip it all down and get to the core of what it really is about which is people's everybody's capacity to not feel worthy of love whether you have.

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