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"tyre gamble" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:37 min | 1 year ago

"tyre gamble" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"To forget that he hasn't had the team stability of in the sense of staying at the team for season after season that either of those two drivers have had. There's always been he's always been on the move from one team to another or changing one car for another or this year changing one engine for another. I really enjoy watching Rory drive for completely different reasons to enjoy watching Tom Ingram drive. You watched him out on the track and you would never hear in a million in a million years say Rory butcher is the most spectacular or entertaining to watch because he's got this very, very classic smooth style. If you were to put them in an early 80s, F one context, Ingram is like watching real nerve if he was in a front wheel drive touring car in and Rory butchery is like watching Prost would be. Front wheel drive touring car. But the real paradoxical thing is that Rory is one of the smoothest drivers out there, but makes us some of the biggest stacks since tiny mistakes within enormous consequences. Like the era, okay, it wasn't enormous consequences in a rolling forward focus to destruction. It Silverstone kind of way. But throwing away a really good result on the last corner Brett brown's hatch and finishing 7th or wherever it was is not what someone who's going to be fighting for a championship this year should be doing. Maybe in a couple of years time. But I think he's a real talent. I really think he deserves to get a shot at it and the other thing that we didn't mention is that who, with that slick tyre gamble, who would have thought that a damp race on the brands hatch Indy circuit. In fact, two damp races on the bus actually so if it would go entirely safety car free. We come out at half distance or later, he would have been absolutely away. Can I drag my finger at that thought? Because when it's bad for the listeners, David is wagging his finger. It's a finger like when Tom Ingram tried that. We will a couple of years ago at Croft. The safety car came out. And Tim Harvey and I said, all right, that's going to play right into his hands now because it's going to elongate the race and make the road dryer. The flip side of that coin was that while they were under the safety car, tyre temperatures and pressures dropped. And he effectively wasted a couple of laps on the restart, getting them back up again. So maybe the safety car wouldn't necessarily have been the answer to his prayers, after all. All right, well, how unlucky that he had didn't have a safety car within a very, very narrow prescribed window in the middle of the race. But to be fair, he has just had one of the great accolades and being compared to Alain Prost as a British towing car driver. So I think that's a pretty good outcome for him at this stage. There's one driver, she doesn't go quite as far back as the early 1980s, but I think we should talk about before moving on to some of the support races. And that is on his farewell season. He says, Jason Plato, obviously two times champion should probably have been four, 5, 6 times champion, depending on, depending on his views on various campaigns that he's had in his career. He talked to good game before the start of the season. He's been a bit unfortunate the last few years, various reasons. But at the moment, it looks quite into the hundred wins in each three or winds to get to the hundred wins Marcus. That still looks quite a long way away. How is Jason getting on with BTC? You have to say it's quite early days. Let's see. Say, he's always admired that Honda is a car, even if it's been the sworn enemy who've been driving it or running it. And he for the opening round of Donnie said, actually, I thought he looked pretty good. He was reasonably competitive in qualifying. And he knows Josh is really good. He was Josh's mentor. Back in the old KX academy days and Josh is a much better driver than he was then. And all around package and Jason's big enough and clever enough to know that. He can learn off him and hopefully the old, the old fox can teach the young whipper snapper a couple of tricks as well. So I definitely wouldn't rule it out. It could be quite fun if you maybe the hundred wins is a bit of a stretch, but I wouldn't rule out 98. Well, let's see, what would he do if you sell 99 at the end of the year? The interesting one. Yeah, you did say final season what we should always point out is that he's saying final year in the BTCC, isn't he? He's not talking about retiring. At the end of this, so who knows what the future holds, but it will be probably races that are longer than 25 minutes. You can see him getting a win, I think, on a reverse grid race at the moment, but not necessarily on from a qualifying session, because the pace hasn't been there. And I think also, at the moment, out of the combination, if you like the team are benefiting from having Jason, they're more than Jason's benefiting from it. And I don't mean that in any way other than he brings a wealth of experience of front wheel drive of the championship of processes of all sorts of little tricks and nuances that only he has built up, but because of his longevity in the championship, and you take an already good team and you bring his experience of all of those areas to it. And that's going to help BTC. So I think they are benefiting hugely from having him involved. The sadness is at the moment that Jason's results aren't reflecting that partnership, if you like. So he's the Kimi Räikkönen, the recent years he's the Kimura. Lots of experience not quite getting the results at alpha. Can you imagine? Can you imagine Jason, being as reluctant to talk as Kimi? No, that dreams. The analogy outside of the car falls down quite spectacular at that point, that is fair to say. We should obviously we could talk about every team in every driver, but that would take all day. Is there anyone that you think is worthy of mention that hasn't had one yet? Yes, and I would say George gamble. And indeed, Sicily motor sport, because George got a podium on his.

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"tyre gamble" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

06:38 min | 1 year ago

"tyre gamble" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"So he and Tony, as he said, are going off on adventures, set up adventures and Dan with his okay, he's got Carrera cup title when he experienced, but he's touring car experiences front wheel drive. So he is a bit more conventional. And he said, after their terrible Saturday, they sort of came back a bit towards what Dan had had. But yeah, what is interesting is that they're coming with completely a completely fresh fuel and things. They will find things that people who are ingrained in front wheel drive won't, but at brands hatch, it's probably fair to say they didn't. But you look at the fact that cabbage had a third and a second to add to ash's fourth. Those aren't appalling results. A lot of teams, and indeed the other half of motor based, the Jackson and Osborne. Half of the carrots, they give the high teeth the results like that. They were very good results. And that's a legacy of someone who him and James Monday is engineer. Really, that's his first proper weekend race weekend with the team, because of what happened at donington. It's a perfect scenario as well, isn't it? If you've got one very good driver doing a load of adventurous setups and trying to find something in the other one who will do the standard front wheel drive. You always got the baseline to go back to. That should work really well for them. So I'm sure that we will see them winning more rate or winning races probably not in the two distant future. But I want to move on to person I find one of the most frustrating drivers in the championship, lovely guy, very quick and then falls off at crucial moments. Rory butcher, watching the first race as brilliant, take the gamble on slicks, comes through. That's exactly what you want to see. Doing all the moves, you're following on the timing screens. How far is he going to get last lap? And he's falling off again. And that seems to happen quite a lot, Steven, from afar, I would say Rory, great to watch, but still like David is saying about the sort of desperation coming in. He still feels like he's a little bit desperate at times. He's not quite as far along that journey that we've been talking about with Josh cook and Tommy Ingram previously. And he's not had as much time in a sort of top front running car as those guys. When you think back to we've mentioned in a few times, but some of his performances in the old MGs when they really, really were quite old cars were incredible to get those results out of them. And it's sort of adjusting that approach when you have got the front running car that you need. But it was personally was a little surprised that he was, with the exception of willpower, the only one to gamble on the alternative tire choice in race one at brands. And it's so so nearly worked if you hadn't gone off if the race had been a couple of nights long ago. I think quite possibly would have won and even looked the hero. But he didn't, it didn't quite happen. And when there's so many top drivers in the championship, if you were to fight at the front, you need those little things to go in your favor. And you can't afford those little errors that cost vital points here and there. And you just don't know how costly moments like that are going to be. Rory's right up there in the mates, but he's just not quite there yet, but he's not far from what do you think, David? Do you think it's fair or do you think it's a bit harsh to say he's a great driver to have on the grid, but he's not yet ready to win the championship? That's kind of my one liner on him really. Is that a bit harsh? I'm not really sure. We've seen the best out of him yet. I agree with Stephen in terms that he's not had a proper crack at it yet because he did the occasional race in those NGs or in guest rides for motorbase. Then we had motor based for a full season, but it was a different kind of motor base from what we enjoy now. And then he went to speed works and he kind of inherited the Tom Ingram car. Tom likes it like this. He won with it, getting a drive, and it was after about half a season that eventually was being engineered to Rory's liking, and he'd had some accidents on the way that density is confident. So for this probably is the first season that we can really start to assess just how good just how consistent he is. Brands in terms of that tyre gamble. Well, coming from not clearly probably thought it was the height of summer anyway. So that would be phase in particular. And he did make progress. All right, Steven's absolutely right. It could have done with being sort of 15 minutes later in the day with the road a bit drier. But he started 9th and he finished 7th. Yes, he had that wobble. As you said, late race and lost a couple of places. But it was still a positive gamble because he did benefit from that. Bear in mind as well that that Toyota is running the new M sports engine. So whatever they've learned in the past with the old toka unit, throw away and start again. At M sport, a bit like we touched on Cosworth. They are also appreciating just how tough a paddock that is to be involved in and developing quickly. And also from an arrow point of view, that corolla is a very boxy car. One of the reasons that BMW were really pleased to get away from the one series to the three was because of the shape at exactly the time that Toyota said to speed works. Yes, we'll come and support you as a manufacturer, as long as you run the corolla. Oh, great. So the events is that was the perfect aero shape. Had to be dispensed with and the corolla came in. So there's always that aero element to it as well, that might hurt them a little bit at thruxton, but we'll see, because Tom Ingram has that record there in the corolla, but I think Rory is still developing, yes. Is he ready to win a championship? Again, to go back to Marcus's hierarchy, he's probably sort of around about the Jake hill area, but you're probably put Tom Ingram and Josh cook ahead of him. But he's a race winner and by God he's brave. Accidentally had a sort of stone like a year or two ago, and he bounces back from that. He doesn't lack speed and he doesn't lack determination and an ability to get stuck in. So you stick him in a brawl on track and I'll definitely be back in all the way. We're putting him behind Josh cooking that here with people who've never won the BTCC who should. But it's easy to remember it's easy to forget that he hasn't had the team stability of in the sense of staying at the team for season after season that either of those two drivers have had..

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"tyre gamble" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

The Autosport Podcast

05:01 min | 1 year ago

"tyre gamble" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast

"Let's review an explosive rally Croatia. It's the gravel notes podcast with Tom Howard, my name is Martin Lee, asking Tom the questions today and holy moly Robin pero wins in Croatia a year after crashing out on stage one. But that's not a simple, rally nobody could have predicted how that one went. What are your impressions? If you're a rally phone right now, you're being spoilt for choice with the drama and excitement that is happening in the championship and has been for the last 6 months or so. Yeah, both to put it mildly to events from three this year have gone to a final stage showdown and on Sunday we had a hell of a final stage showdown between and Callie Robin perea. The rally itself looked as though rob and Perry had this sewn up he'd led by more than a minute million a minute and a half on Saturday morning had a 31 second lead on Sunday morning having lost almost a minute to a puncture on Saturday, but on Sunday it all got turned on its head. Thanks to some sudden down bore shower that on the penultimate stage and Paul Kelly had the wrong ties for that. I lost his lead to oit tanak and then we had a final stage showdown. Let's review a tweet you sent on Sunday morning when Robin perra looked like it had it all under control, which said soft tyre gamble hasn't paid off for Tanaka on stage 17 Robin perra on Pirelli's extends his lead to 31.1 seconds with just three stages to go. The flying Finn will take the win unless there is a twist in the tail and you had no idea when you tweeted that, but holy moly would there be a twist in the tail. In fact, I think we did a, I think we did a Twitter poll. Sunday morning, who will win rally Croatia and this will be one that's our rally fans might have got a little bit wrong. So there we go. I'll just mention that. Tanak took 57% and Robin Perry took 43% of the fan vote of who would win. So there you go. We get it wrong, but the fans get it wrong as well. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, no one really could have predicted what would happen in just those final three stages. So yeah, as we said by stage 17 of 20, rather than Perez got a 31 second lead over tanak and you thinking, yep, home and dry. This is simple. But then on stage 18, tanakh gets a clause a little bit of that time back, so it's like 28 seconds the lead for Rothenberg going into the stage and then the heavens opened. Toyota didn't actually have the information that it was going to ride. They believed that it was just going to be cloudy and the Rhine wouldn't come down. Whereas Hyundai, tan X team, their weather band got its spot on. He absolutely knew it was going to rain, so they took the soft tyres rather than the hard tyres that rob perri took and the softs are much better in the wet. Talent had a huge advantage going into this absolute sopping wet stage. Where he got, he took, well, he reclaimed all of that deficit to Robin Perry and had a 1.4 second lead going into the final stage where Paul calley just looked crestfallen because he'd done everything like he dominated the rally and then just saw it all just evaporate on one stage and left him with one stage to fight back. It was just, you had to feel for him, but ultimately a wrong title was his doubtful there. But the team obviously didn't have the info. So we had this absolute grandstand finish set up where we had a final power stage, obviously live on television, so a big crowd there that in fact reports of Frederick 50,000 fans across the weekend for rally cry, so they really seemed to pack the stages. They loved it. And they got a great finish. So heading into that final stage, the bizarrely the rides were absolutely bone dry in the sun had come out after that rain on the previous stage, but there was a lot of mud on the roads which meant that Cali's tyres were not the rubber you needed for that stage and it had the advantage. So to do what Cali did, which was as he said, a full scent, which is written on his crash helmet. And he absolutely launched into this stage. I've never seen any quite like this. It was just full maximum attack full like Colin McRae style and it was just ragged, but he managed to pull the gap and win the rally by 4.3 seconds, which was just left everyone stunned. Nobody thought he could do this. And I think that this is the moment where we've realized we've got a real superstar in our hands in WRC at the moment. So after a podium ceremony and was wearing a golden tie, which you hear Tom reference in this Tom caught up with Callie afterwards, just very quickly for some initial reaction here's what he said. Congratulations.

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