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2 men caught with nearly $4,500 worth of illegal fireworks in NYC
"NYPD D and F D N y fire marshals, making some more fireworks arrests and have two guys in Manhattan last night possession of about 4500 bucks worth of illegal pyrotechnics suspects identified his 28 year old Anthony Cassata and Hugo Figueroa. He's H 30 both charged with reckless endangerment and unlawful dealing of fireworks. Course illegal in New York City.
Fresh update on "two guys" discussed on Rob Has a Podcast
"To our. I don't have. I didn't have anything prepped. I thought we were GONNA SORTA workshop. Doing. Okay. Rob. I'm actually having a lot of fun doing this podcast with you of excited for the sequel in two years. You'll be Becky gray hair. Back into grey-haired. I see I would love to say something of a this week that it was. Our very own tick Tock Er- of this show Nicole Tiktok are. that. She said that. I had this even came up, but she talked about how she was on podcast with two guys that are pushing fifty. Can you believe this? I mean it could be the setup, but. That! Got a workshop that one a little bit.
Mark Murphy: an unexpected flat spin in a Christen Eagle.
"To pick up the story, my brother and And I headed from Ohio back home. It was about a four hour flight for us. I think we made to fuel stops because again with a new airplane I'm always conservative on fuel, and they don't have a lot of range anyway. In each fuel stop. We looked at over. We check the oil fuel consumption. You know it was a beautiful airplane had no issues at all with it nothing to be nervous about landing or taking off, so I remember now you know. The the date is winding down and we did our last fuel stop and we finally got home and. This is where the story actually begins and an innocent way to start a story that potentially had such a tragic outcome. We were probably at six thousand feet and headed downhill. I think an impulsive decision, but not necessarily a bad one I said to my brother, I said hey were home. Let's twist this airplane up a little bit. That was my exact words. And what I meant by that is. Let's do a loop and enroll and and Lynch. So we did a few just did a loop did a role I think I did a Cuban you know and we weren't really trying to maintain any altitude, so we're just letting the airplanes sort of we're doing some aerobatics, but we're letting our altitude descend as well because eventually we WANNA get down, so we're doing that in. Thank goodness. No one was on the ground, so we were not showing off for anybody. We weren't doing an air show for. For Anybody? We were just two guys feeling out a new airplane. I think one of my lessons learned on. This is I'm glad that at least the experience over wanting to show off I. Think if somebody was on the ground and they're like Oh mark with the new airplane. There might have been that inspiration I. Guess, you would say to do things a little bit lower to show off, but regardless my brother and I were not doing that. So as we were getting lower, we were down to probably twenty. I. I actually spoke with him this morning and he doesn't even like to talk about this story, but I think we're probably about twenty eight hundred feet so again. It's nothing unsafe in what I thought. My experience level was so I pull up to do my last maneuver which was going to be a vertical role to a hammerhead, and then we were going to enter the down with so I pull up. I do the vertical role and. And you know just look outside and I'm where I need to be kicked. The rudder and I got a little slow on the top. I mean new airplane right, so we got a little slow on the top, and when I kick the rudder and fed in the L., Ron, instead of just the nose, pointing back at the ground, left-wing Tunder, and we basically just inverted so mark. Can I stop you there and help the audience? Understand your in a vertical climb. You're going to go into a hammerhead. A hammerhead is where you go up and you almost front it out air speed, and you basically cartwheel right on the same plane and come right back down the same line. You went up exactly I think for a guy like me. You think it's almost one of the easiest and safest maneuvers. It's not a big deal, but at the top of the hammerhead you're actually putting the airplane and cross control. You're picking a you know a left rudder. And then you're feeding in a little bit of right Aileron just to make as you would describe the Cartwheel, so the heavy end will fall, and basically you're just pointed straight downhill on the same plane that you went up. Okay Great. That's what you're intending to do, but you get halfway through that and your left wing. You said Tux under and next thing you know you're inverted. We are inverted and you know I screwed that one cold the throttle back to idle. There really wasn't a need. We weren't spinning, so there was no spin correction to make at this time, it was just. Typically what I expected I. pull the throttle to idol you. Wait a half a second neutralize the controls in the heavy endel fall. The nose will be pointed at the ground. You're building airspeed and away you go when I did that and I neutralize the controls. The airplane went into a spin so there I was in an inverted flat spin in the Christian Eagle and developed fairly quickly. We did a a half a turn almost instantly. And again I didn't panic but I was like and so I actually did nothing no correction. No nothing because my expectation was let the airplane just sort itself out. Keep everything in neutral and full of Fire Away Yeah and you aerobatic pilots, or especially good at this kind of thing where you're frequently, find yourself an unusual attitudes. You don't always execute them maneuver correctly. They're hard to do so. You know you're out practicing and you don't. Don't and when you find yourself in an attitude that you weren't expecting. You gotta take. A deep breath can figure it out. Neutralize controls as a typical first step, but so at this point in this event. You're not really alarmed. You're Kinda surprised. It sounds like mom wouldn't expecting that, but you weren't really alarmed. Is that an accurate picture of where your head? Was this point exactly a hundred percent? You know no panic. No, even concern yes.
'Long Gone Summer' Documentary Revisits Controversial 1998 Home Run Chase
"Are joined by the director of long gone. Summer AJ SCHMUCK AJ. Congratulations loved watching that film. What does it feel like to have the film finally be seen by the world. I mean it's crazy. It's a been a long journey to get to this point, and it feels like a total miracle to have finished. With the pandemic and working separately with all my team so finally being able to get the film done and get it's ESPN. Feels like a huge accomplishment. Why did you decide to start the dock with the actual baseball's that mark mcgwire hit. Well is in part because we. When we met Todd McFarlane The Great Comic Book Artist Entrepreneur Who who bought all the balls or a bunch of balls including at number seventy. I just love the way he talked about the home run, and how it is something that really connects baseball fans to the game in a way that you don't get in any other sports so as soon as we like walked out of of interviewing him, I I turned to my producer, and said you know that's the beginning of the film. Is Him talking about what the home run in baseball means and how it connects fans, drinks have direct contact between Maguire's bat, and and the person who catches it. So that was that was great also has sort of the other. Bonus. Positive thing of reminding you that someone paid more than three million dollars. Baseball that's how big this was That's how much this took over the country that someone would would go to that extent. To own that ball. Having when watching that scene in Rhode. explained. HOW MICHAEL JORDAN HITS! A shot wins the championship. They go and bring him the basketball, and if if a quarterback breaks a record with the past, bring him the football, but with the home run. You literally hit into the stands, and you never see it again and it was sort of a way that the fan can take home a piece of the game in baseball. They can't other any other way. Way that happens with the home run, but then you did you hear him sort of articulate this, and then the question is asked how much you pay for it. It was just so much money that I wanted to know. How does this? How much are they paying people that bitter comic book illustrators, nowadays like what is the going rate for commentator Peter? How can this man afford this multimillion dollar baseball? Spun was very successful, but yeah I think. He spent basically every penny he owned and you know I I think in part. He did it because he he wanted to get into the business of making action figures for for sports. And and that happens I, mean he basically that was his way of getting everyone's attention in saying. Hey, I'm serious I. Care About Sports Let me make action figures, and and he did I think it was not only something that he wanted to do one thing that didn't make the film which I I tried to find a way to put it in, but he talked about how. His brothers are all baseball fans, one of the key excitement for him in getting the balls with just to be able to say I've got the baseball. As like well. You got three million dollars for that God. Bless Ya. I know that's right. The kid sweet swinging lefty King Griffey Junior, one of my favorite players growing up as Wa. Carry a bet to this day. was more of a factor. With Sosa mcgwire that people actually a realize. Can you acknowledge how his performance affected them? Certainly I mean one of the crazy things I think about that. Season was that people really went into it from spring training, thinking that either Maguire or junior were gonNA. Make this record. Both of them at hit and high fifties the year before this was an expansion year. Everyone just thought like this is GonNa happen went into the season, thinking that Griffey was was in it. You know right I think if you even remember the Griffey was in it. You forget that he was in it until late August when he had kind of a long slump I think he only hit one one home run and like twenty games and may still hits. Hyphen! which is a tremendous season that gets overlooked by what happened with mcgwire and Sosa, but certainly yeah I mean congruency. Junior had an amazing year that year and. It was in a in addition to to all the stuff. We remember of Sosa and mcgwire. He was. He was hitting the ball longer. In Maguire was sort of famously one of the bash brothers, and he had a great career while he was in Oakland with the athletes and Sammy Sosa wasn't as celebrated as a baseball player, and he said something in the film that really hit accord me, said quote ahead had to continue hitting. Because if not, they're not going to mention me. Why did you include that emphasized that and what that means you from Sami? I thought it was great. It Sammy acknowledged that he wanted to the respect. He thought he deserved, and he does that a few times I think in the film and I mean that's sort of a lighthearted way of like saying like. I turned on sports center at night and if I don't hit a home run like they're not gonNA mentioned. He wanted to be mentioned. He wanted to be acknowledged and I think that one of the things I hope that the film does Sami. Wasn't that well known outside of Chicago before ninety eight, but. That's in part because the comes weren't very good, but the Sammy was was a great player for the cubs. A thirty thirty guy I thirty thirty guy ever in cubs history. He was a top home run hitter in the National League for years. I was one year where he was on track to get close to the record. But was injured in in August so You know was a goal to sort of illuminate. The fact that Sami wasn't just somebody who like. Jumped out of nowhere in June of Nineteen Ninety eight that he meant something in Chicago before that. Implant in Chicago, the weather can be a factor. Do you believe it play as much of a factor as Sammy Sosa states. I mean all I can tell you that. We were there in May of last year to shoot the Saint Louis Chicago series in their. Earliest! May and it's snowed one morning. And I was just like. I grew up in southern Illinois outside the St, Louis and I love Chicago. Chicago is great, but I was just like hell though. Away being at the game it was cold. It was rainy and it was just like damn out. This is football. Weather's that I don't know but yeah. No. I definitely know He. He I believe in when he says he's. He was a hitter that did better when it got warm. Not that good of a hitter in the cold. Certainly, see see that that would be the case. Which I think is also in the film. You'll see you know one of the things that makes a Kerry Wood's twenty strikeout game. All the more impressive is that he's. He's doing it on one of those days, and the rain is coming down east going through like You know thirteen fourteen fifteen strikeouts that day, so? Yeah! It's whether in and regularly I think is probably no joke. With all of what's happening in our society in the world, not just in our country today we kind of have to look at things in stories in history, and currently through the filter of race. And how do you think race played a role in this particular story of mcgwire and Sosa and that summer? I think that people wanted to feel good about the fact that they liked this battle between these two guys who were from different cultures different countries. And different races. That probably made people want pat themselves on the back for feelings so good about it I think in part there still memories of what had happened to Hank Aaron and sort of the ugliness when he was. Setting the all time home run record. So people felt like. Wow, look at how far we've come to celebrate and get excited about the fact that this could be. A champion of homerun record that was held by either of these two guys. There's a somewhat famous. Cartoon! Where the two of them are depicted with their bats wall has been broken in the wall, says racist. You know like that. The two of them had finally solved this problem. They beaten it. And I think. It's just a you know. It's one of those times when. People have wanted to. Congratulate themselves for reaching a certain. Threshold and clearly all of those congratulations were way premature. And we're still. We're still fighting for it. I hope that the people. Look at this though as a story of these two champions, and can get some excitement out of the fact that they did come from different backgrounds, and they have very different stores,
Lady Antebellum changes band name over connection to slavery
"Of country music's most successful axes shedding the the name name atop atop for for nearly nearly fourteen fourteen years years because because it it could could be be racially racially insensitive insensitive lady antebellum will now go buy it lady a after they say the original name left him embarrassed because of the word antebellum heavy association with American slavery known for their delicate country sound lady antebellum is making a loud proclamation Hillary Scott Charles Kelley and Dave Haywood have been making music together for more than a decade under the name lady antebellum lady this lady this the lady got two guys and a girl in the CBS Sunday morning interview from twenty eleven the trio explained to Ben Tracy the story behind the band's name centered around the southern antebellum style homes where they took their first group photos tell us because we have it and I was like okay Hey guys lady antebellum is different that we like that we sold or you know on it and I was like okay fine you know if we're lucky enough to get a record deal it will probably first thing we're sure of that yeah be the first thing to go but it's still its stock for nearly fourteen years but after nationwide protests over racial inequality the band promptly dropped antebellum from their name and will move forward as lady Hey they are dressed fans with a long statement writing in part we did not take into account the associations that way down this word referring to the period of history before the civil war which includes slavery adding our hearts have been stirred with conviction our eyes open wide to the injustices blind spots we didn't even know existed have been revealed I think what lady aided and showing that if you have a a pastor of a part of your identity your band name your song titles you can change that Nashville based music journalist Marissa moss there's a lot of fear in the country there's just a huge fear that if you speak out you lose airplanes to go lose fans and I think it's a gross misunderstanding of the base the country audience in that same statement lady a directly addressed the question many might be asking this morning why are you only making the change now they go on to say they can make no excuses for their lateness in this realization sank what we can do is acknowledge it turned from it learn from it and take action that CBS is Vladimir duty a
Protests and riots continue across the country
"Hunter show we're talking about what everybody's talking about the riots what to do to stop him no dialogue there's no discussion until the riots and many way shape or form and this is how insidious the antifa mutants are they knew it thank you the nation was United in disgust at the video of the killing of George Floyd things could have been done it really could have been done but and even doesn't want things done they want to destroy the N. T. FOR that has been built up and defended by the left wing media and ignored or cheered on by Democrats they wanted to destroy and they did it they did you can say they agitated but they didn't make anybody smash a window they smashed windows other people piled thrown stole stuff from the apple store so all the good will that was there and all the momentum to actually do something it was destroyed was just and that's what they want they don't want people getting along the left doesn't want people getting along well after what he doing we talking about why you quit Democrats well Keith Ellison member Keith Ellison who is a member of Congress from Minnesota he was the number two guy at the democratic national committee's Democratic National Committee vice chair he ran for chairman he lost to Tom Perez he was vice chair he is now Attorney General of the state of Minnesota he is a proud supporter of antifa he's also a proud supporter of Louis Farrakhan what what do you think you're gonna get when you elect that let's go to Alex in Baltimore Alex thanks for holding welcome Hey I didn't really talk about anti fur over real quick you go back and look at all the people that interacted over the years especially the inauguration antifa whiskey off in DC people if people are released they're they're let off of charges so a lot of yeah so there's a lot of a lot of support all the charges and all the arrests on inauguration day and all the stores smashed in the cars burned all the charges were dropped eventually into right away because there would have been angered by like what the hell you mean you're not going to charge these people they charge him and then when they thought people would be enough time had passed and people weren't looking they grab the churches don't always what I what I wanna make two points first of all this is gonna sound we're taking tacky but this isn't really a protest you know protest isn't in the constitution you look at what it says it says you have it you can reach out to Mando government a redress of grievances what is that mean it means you can also send me details okay okay but you know if you're not going to the legislators with legislation stating what you want and it's not really a protest going on young at cops I hate you it's not gonna change anything and are stupid people in this country that really think something's going to come from that you need if if there's something to be changed it got to be done to the law otherwise it's not a standard that we can uphold right so and the other thing I want to talk about you got guys like Tony and there was an African American gentleman I didn't catch is intro but our service members service members not Fred and you feed the attitude there the servicemembers said you mentioned and just what you mentioned in the intro here you mentioned that Antipolis breaking the windows and the guy said you were you brought up the looting and he said well it's white people breaking the windows what are black people supposed to do and then you mentioned black on black crime he said well that's why people give and god you know there's no there's the added to that black people don't have any agency that they can't possibly make decisions for themselves and therefore they can't be held accountable you know uncomfortable conversations Cody wants to have uncomfortable conversations I'm looking at FBI crime statistics right now from the last twenty years okay and I'm not talking about per capita total killings it over to one every year black people killing white people over white people killing black people and then when you take into account that they're only thirteen percent of the population and we've all we've been over sixty percent the last twenty years you realize that the rate is eight to one you know we have that conversation or is that racist the ADL says if you've mentioned that if you mention that constituted different across different races you're racing so we're we're not allowing ourselves to have a real conversation that need to be set when these rights happen the next day you shouldn't be able to protest because like I said they're not really asking for anything specific I we know black lives matter we know if George Ford name okay but what change is gonna come from that one of the laws we can pass and and what can we do and as far as eighty four trump's been such a disappointment I really think that that declaration of that being a terrorist organization will be refunded before the election if not it within the week well he has to make it first he hasn't he the president any disappointment in this too but the the responsibility for situations like this doesn't really rest with the president of the United States he he is you know he's the guy the local authorities and then the state authorities and then if they ask for federal help then the federal government immediately short of declaring martial law the president can can't do a lot but he should be saying things a rather long just tweeting things there's rumors that there's going to be at an address today but we'll see the the executive order on censorship real quick with my last point he should have been all that many of the social media companies and get away with being a publisher and a platform and executive order he did sort of almost motivates them to be a publisher which is going to lead to more censorship of the occasion hold and then as a platform that's what we want that that way no American can be denied access and it doesn't if you take the responsibility off of the social media companies then they have no excuse to censor people he did the opposite as well what will happen what could happen and it's got to be changed by law not by statute completely to be fully effective but what would happen is a couple of lawsuits lost would cause them to have to make an uncomfortable choice and that uncomfortable choice would likely lead to them going back to being a platform and and that's that's this step bid there was there's no way the president can act and get it all the way around the bases on his own it takes legislation legislation is being drafted but the house Democrats are never going these are their donors these are the people that they support they're never going to allow it to happen but next time Republicans are in charge maybe something will happen but it's also possible that much squishy Republicans won't do anything about it anyway Eddie in Atlanta thanks for calling in any here are your core let United healthcare plan it could have been stopped on Friday after protesters I've with there and sports physical stuff goes out over the falls in the broadcast in long enough for me to hear one line from the woman is free but far fairer for Daniel Farke is you should white people have the effective gains so basically that that kind of day you'll going on down there when the framers are with their permit was over with our mayor put police off a bicycle as the first or in line at the CNN building police officer were thrown to the ground by I white woman in a white man and he got up off the ground and the police did nothing I come alive after they wanna burn the city down you watch and it went from that to three in the emissary spray paint everything but not windows and then from there they started well Hey if they don't let us have free reign here so they started busting all the cars that meet certain party everything they are mayor get on TV at ten o'clock and said y'all just need to go home well you know she's not quite helpful future bottoms of these people were too busy having fun born in the town down but they're not they're stealing TV's they're not watching TV either at his house I think they're going to zero in on TV yeah and basically the keeper of please get rid of the master barbers down there the state troopers were down there and nobody did nothing they just let him into it and it's just like a kid if you say your this is very important the police on the grounds that you're violating the law get out of the street okay and then the police to come down there to vote thanks same street as always they won't get a credit down here in the whole thing started because people are blocking traffic and you know ratcheting it up you know they like every fifteen to trample people out of cars and stuff you have to stop stuff like this when it starts right as it starts or you're not gonna be able to stop it that's why they are mayor of DC the mayor of DC setting an eleven PM curfew okay that's really late and stupid but it didn't matter because until at least two thirty in the morning they were marching around smashing and looting they still were in Georgetown they were smashing and looting and beating up store owners who are trying to protect their property so if you have an eleven PM curfew and it doesn't mean anything then what's the point of the curfew it's failed leadership R. block is is saying that the the the everything is been messed up by the police the police are the ones that have sparked the violence which is not not true they've please send anything yeah the wealth the Huffington post had a thing I try to find it but it was their headline was police turned violent or something like that police turned violent against protesters like the right now I'm listening to you it's because they've turned out to be as they enter the comedy store but there's no news on there anymore during the day they are I was so embarrassed by that the networks ABC CBS the local affiliates here thank you well we don't do this in Atlanta this is not it Lana and they were just very code everything is so pathetic in the M. at one point one I got himself I believe in buying the place this is all well maybe I didn't say that right you know yeah the slip but yeah the the headline in the Huffington post yesterday was copper age colon police violence nationwide and there's pictures of riders okay okay yeah Rosenstein's report if you know any fourth of ten thirty and it's not a qualified so maybe they'll get serious after fever come to town tomorrow to go to work what's it feel like tomorrow you start putting that very well in there and they still didn't do anything they start the place started closed down but nothing happened it's very simple you have a friend with north south east and west for most of March and then you close in just like you did when you got it got scrapped the rob a bank is in the works and then you and then you just arrested and taken to jail get him off the street yep particular you know what to do any needs the people in leadership down I appreciate the phone call stay safe in Atlanta and keep listening to my radio sucks compared to this anyway let's go to Tim and hands into him hello yes it was terrible what happened at man but the looting this takes away from the whole calls on it and Nancy said it's opportunism masking as outrage it really is they have left wing agitators know exactly what to do they do this for a living they did they did they practice constantly up in Portland for the entirety of the trump administration every weekend in Portland there days over every week they have a day of rage where they they harass people they beat on cars as they drive past they get really angry they destroy things every once in awhile and the mayor of there lets it go and it doesn't make the national news because it's Democrats doing the Democrats are gonna are gonna criticize their base they've got the vote of the people in the street white black doesn't matter they got their vote they're not going to criticize and they don't have to criticize and there is no amount of destruction that can cause them to go Hey wait a second we probably shouldn't be doing this it's it's O. K. blue let it go
Who Will Be the Broncos Defensive MVP in 2020?
"Said we do have a poll question up right now at KOAA Colorado on Twitter who will be the Broncos defensive MVP in twenty twenty von Miller drill Casey Bradley Chubb Justin Simmons right now von Miller winning this poll Bradley Chubb is you're right there so pretty close I voted for Bradley Chubb by the way okay I voted for Justin Simmons the only because he sees the field the entire the entire season and I I really think you even thinking badly troubled well they they see the field was a ninety percent just the same as a hundred percent I mean pretty much yeah so I mean we're we're splitting hairs I I actually think there's argument for all all four of them I think there is I think you'd even throw in like I said Kareem Jackson I think we can have a argue about Todd Davis will likely leave we can at least leave the team in tackles there's there's there'll still be harassed kit comes away with with big plays batted passes I mean there's there's probably argument for anyone of these guys yeah other then then yeah I I could totally understand that just and you know he's good for the show and you know I enjoyed enjoyed talking to him from time to time but I'm not you know I I look at and and you know we're all big fans Justin Simmons B. last year before all this went down I was like he's going to become a household name by the end of season sort of maybe all pretty but you know I look at these guys and I'm just for my own personal thing and they have a bounce back season knowing how Bradley Chubb is is kind of Courtland Sutton on the defense enters the attitude work ethic all that kind of stuff and he was where it was interesting get to talk to both those guys a buffalo wild wings last year because it felt like it was kind of a new unified narrative between the two you know Courtland brother has sent a lot of the same things very similarly it's interesting because they're off the side of the ball so it's it's it would it was kind of fascinating to you know to see two guys have the same approach would be different sides of the ball that aren't necessarily in the same same meetings and
NFL player suing over sexual assault on plane
"An NFL player claims that he was sexually assaulted on a United Airlines flight why is this different why is this a lot because all male NFL player is accusing all woman of sexual assault folks I mean this this is pretty significant a cues during sexual assault an NFL player I mean this is this is very very significant here because you don't hear about this very often here are the details for the NFL players from New Jersey any claims that he was harassed non stop by a woman that was intoxicated and may be held up as well a female passenger this is on a United Airlines flight this happened back in February he's filed the lawsuit so I mean again the significance here mail NFL player accusing a woman of sexual assault has filed a lawsuit against United Airlines the athletes the NFL player is on name all we know is that he lives in New Jersey and he is listed as John Doe number one and the claim that he was on a red eye flight from Los Angeles to Newark liberty International Airport back in February February ten to be exact claims the woman who is also in the lawsuit not identified that she was quote D. shoveled and unbalanced when she boarded the flight took her window seat next to him this was in a commonly plus I'm not business class but this was economy plus a little extra space on United Airlines and he says that she soon began allegedly sexually assaulting this NFL player and he was in the middle seat and he was assaulted by her massaging his knees and thighs according to the lawsuit this was filed Monday in federal court in you know I'm sorry Los Angeles Superior Court so this is filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on Monday a second guy seated in the same role who is also suing he is John Doe number till he complained to crew members what they did nothing allegedly the stop the woman's behavior the complaint describes both these John does one and two as African Americans the professional athlete living in Haslett and the second man residing in Philly don't know if they knew each other prior to the flight according to the story out of the New York Post fearful of the perception of being a male victim in the racial stigma of being a young African American male John Doe one patiently pleaded for the a failed to stop and removed her hand but the alleged sexual assault of John Doe number one only intensified with the woman grabbing and groping is quads and then stroking her hand across his lap toward the inside of his leg near his genitals at one point she allegedly grabbed his **** and ripped off the face mask that he was wearing even in early February on this point he was wearing a face mask when he got to complain to the flight attendant the belligerent woman turned her sights on John Doe number two grabbed his leg and groin area yeah sounds like she was drunk and build up good huh and then she eventually was moved to another role by the flight crew and she admitted that she was drinking and popped some pills both men said twenty five minutes into the flight they witnessed the woman downing prescription pills because you have to become intoxicated the victims they were given one hundred fifty dollar voucher for their troubles and the men claimed that the abuse could've been prevented by the crew but the crew did nothing when they were made aware of what was happening early on United has not commented yet and typically they'll say that we're not going to comment on pending litigation but again the significance the the interesting nature of an NFL player claiming that he if such a reversal of watch typical usually would be woman accusing athletes of sexual assault and here we have an NFL player accusing a female passenger on the plane of sexual assault this finding to be
Horace Grant defends Scottie Pippen, questions specific aspects of 'The Last Dance'
"Thing about horse Horace was not just based on his own behalf he was pissed for Scotty Pippen is well because aside from Jordan giving some praise to paper early in the series most of the talk about Pippin was about all these low moments I remember being hold on call the number two guy decorated it's gotten papers put three so badly in terms of the moderate in terms of the one point six or seven seconds Selfridge I I have never seen this and all of my life in the respect of people out there I think games six could barely walk do not down on his back try to do whatever he could to help the team but my my my point is while I was at one point sixty seven seconds in the documentary so called documentary about it will be with only eighteen while they're in there we handle that very year really well as a team he he was wrong for doing that well you're still we went after the game we'll do it up there we have to say bill car right and then we handle it was over it was over we go on the techniques to seven games told me it was over why bring that up that's my question everybody out there is listening it's always grant and it's a fair question if this series is about the final season the so called last dance why was something from four years earlier included something that Jordan was not even therefore he was out playing baseball that didn't concern him he was on that team as Horace said the team handle it in the paper knew it was wrong even though people did say if the documentary that he would not change anything anyway if this was about Michael Jordan's version of the final season why was something that did not involve Michael Jordan why was that given so much time in the dock why was it so important to Jordan to bring up the lowest point of Pippen's career and if you want to say yeah well because that was important believe me he left out a lot of important things so why was it important to him to put that in there
Melonheads Steal From Virginia Convenience Store
"A pair of melon heads humanoids walking around with watermelons on their heads caused quite a stir currently these two guys use watermelons as face masks and who hasn't done that I hope they hollowed out the watermelon rounded anyway they look okay maybe not the brightest bulbs but they used watermelons as face masks to allegedly steal from a convenience store in a small Virginia town the do pulled up in a stolen two thousand six black Toyota Tacoma pickup truck entered a Sheetz store a convenience store in Louisa Virginia on may fifth while wearing carved out watermelons holes were cut out for their eyes though according to the police department one of the two suspects was arrested on Friday police still looking for the second suspect which shouldn't be
Golf ready to take its first small step back with Rory, DJ, Rickie and Wolff
"Gamble tomorrow the tailor made a driving relief as we've been talking about the first hour Charlie Sears continues to join this it's going to be Dustin Johnson and Rory versus Rickie Fowler and Matthew what's the what was the final total Scotty on our on our fiftieth club six three counting us you guys or hi wolf and yeah which is really against the grain bin have you likely establishment you like the old guys you like DJ and Rory I just think there's more on the line for Rickie Fowler what's on the line what's on the line okay which are the unit is is going to be on their win total is going to go to FedEx points now this is a mandate exhibition with two guys at Oklahoma state you know veterans people saying you know they're you know I I don't believe I'll tell you because this is the worst news we've had in this country since nine eleven it it it's worse than nine eleven eighty thousand people have died in the last you much this pandemic this is the first bit of good news here we will well I'm just giving you my reasons first bit of good news we're gonna have our first live sports and I think let me finish here there Delbert one Rickie Fowler and Matt you off it's going to be a coming out party for Matthew Wolff and Rickie Fowler I think I think they're gonna win are we not kind of like a little confused on how they really cuts tiger in Phil's match they hijacked the whole thing tiger and Phil we heard two months ago saying there should be a big match their dates match number two they're gonna add Thoman Payton to go search for the greatest athletes of his generation ago but also a tailor made simple hold my beer we're gonna let for our guys go in you know what we're to go week before them is that not kind of well you did well I'll say this more power to him because Phil and tiger they cannot but they tried to milk it as long as they could yeah and not set a date not set the location itself but some pride in and got Seminole to boot one of the great golf for gas in this country you're gonna do great numbers regardless I want to watch this they want to watch golf golf fans want to see some real stuff happened gamblers want to gamble it's gonna do phenomenal numbers it's going to be
Stimulating Simulator Stories
"Never had the three of us. Sit Down and nerd out about about flight simulation. Yeah I mean. It's one of the things that I think is a gateway drug for a lot of people I mean when you're a kid with a computer and You know you're looking for some gaming or some you know something cool to do. I mean flight Sims I think are are I think are as much a part of getting you know. Young people into Navy model airplanes were and still are. Yeah I I agree and you guys of no my My background priority. I spent eleven years at Microsoft working on the flight simulator series there subsequently got some weird biases and things but I was also been a lifelong user of Sims first. Ibm either came home. We bought the first First version one point. Oh flights them week that When that came out and I was. I was twelve going on thirteen when that happened. And here I am D- decades and decades later and I still enjoy them and it's It it's one of those things that it. It's not only refund from the aviation side but it's also to me always been interesting from the technology side to take these computers that we have on our desks in in our pockets and our briefcases and see what what they can do. Yeah I wouldn't ask you when you went to work at Microsoft was that Was that pretty cool? I mean going to work for a product that you Kinda knew already and had a you know certainly had a name for itself. I sent my wife An email and our into my first day because I've been at Microsoft a two or three years closer to four years actually for if I move to that team and I sent this email to her and it just said I am a pig. My job is slop never get there? That was back in ninety eight So got to work on some patches and supposedly stuff for flights to ninety eight then we rolled right into combat flights him in for the next several years. Sort of back and forth from combat. Flight Sim then back to the civilian one based on releases Worked as a test engineer which was really cool. It came from product support. Which meant you had to sit on the phone and try to help somebody solve a problem and then I switched to testing which just meant. You really didn't care about the solution. You just had to point out the problems and I'm good at that. I'm really judgmental. I'm picky but it can be a real jerk so So that was that was fantastic and worked from. He said the tail end of flights in ninety eight all the way through the last of FSX and a what we call DSP. What you now know is prepared by Lockheed Martin so yeah Great Times Yeah I think When I was a kid my parents had I think it was an IBM forty six In the early nineties and I only game that was on. That computer was gosh. She could help me with this. How was probably F S for? It was still wire frame graphics and it had the airplane Creator in the in the Red Baron combat similar. Oh sure yeah. So the yeah. They're the red baron was That was there from the very very beginning. You know the wire frame stuff. F S Four. That had the airplane creator. Had WHAT WE CALL IT? Sort of flat shading it was sort wire frame. It could support up to like sixteen colors of Aga time too so just starting to transition into something that was Sort of optionally wire frame or you can have some solid colors into it. Yeah that so. I always wonder how much that actually played into. You know I think. All three of us You know we say as far back as we remember we were airplane parts and I mean how your origin stories pretty obvious you know growing up at an airport But I think for my for me that that may definitely be a big part of that. I remember getting My my first flights actually wasn't regular flights him. It was combat flight simulator. And it was like you in Europe. He was European theater. Okay so that was the first one. Just yes he. F S One. Yeah Oh man. That was awesome like I remember. We downloaded that or loaded onto the computer and then a couple of buddies over and like we literally played that until like two in the morning and Just you know you died. It's my turn but What was he was the two guys that were with me? They weren't diehard airplane nuts. They thought this was like totally cool. And nobody had seen anything. Quite like that So it was really kind of interesting way to get someone. Maybe not a history buff. Not a Warburg buff but suddenly you know they were kinda rattling stuff off like oh no man you gotta go with the P fifty one you know and I'm like how you know. How do you know what is it was kind of interesting? Well you know. I think it's you know it confirms what we have said at least in private conversations time and time again that simulators almost any kind like this can. They can teach you know they can. Inspire people didn't get people excited about it. But you know before long. You're you're actually learning
49ers decline on Solomon Thomas, Chicago Bears decline Mitch Trubisky option
"The forty Niners went ahead and told Solomon Thomas well yeah we like it but not that much with the chance to pick up his fifth year option beyond twenty twenty they did not which was to be expected why commit money to a guy maybe that you you know think maybe you could spend elsewhere now same thing happened to Mitch Trubisky this weekend with the Chicago Bears Sabah those two guys who are so linked together in the draft neither of them has had their fifth year option picked up so sometimes will be on the Niners this year because is that that is the final year of his
What To Do When Things Go Wrong
"Today's topic. I WanNa talk about when things go wrong in what to do so a lot of questions come in and say of course a lot of my podcasts slash castles positive Rebecca. Good things on all the rest of it end of had loved. Come through and say that's a good at obviously. I've had some great lock. Things have gone. But what do I do when things go wrong so Great thing for me to address had to give it some thought To make sure that have lighted at In a way that people can understand in under the ten minutes. But I'm so he's he's a bit of a process of Guthrie when things have gone wrong in the past and of course it always talk about the journey. Not a destination and distancing is all about vision and dumb. Obviously the journey is all about planning and being able to pivot and as we know in lost. The journey doesn't always go smoothly. Halley ever will always go smoothly. I'm guys lately with probably pushing had enough. So he's a good way to be prepared or what? I've done When things have gone wrong what do I do? The first thing is always expressed problems. But I don't Miss my Tampa now that's how Said that's easier said than done but what I've always tried to do is keep the emotion away from the problem in a good way to do that is to get a piece of paper and pen and actually clearly articulate the problem. Surat the part of the problem down on a piece of paper. I'm really hurting. The actual problem is I'm a talk about putting some stocks. Not Fines CITRONEN. Do this quite early is always the best thing what best expressed the problem and the best way to express the problem clearly without losing tempa is to actually get a piece of paper and a pin and write down what you believed. The problem is in. It'll become clear the second thing is. I like to talk things. I'd like to talk to obviously confidants. Close friends advisers elected. Talk to my wife has been obviously my best advisor and closest advisor to me but what I make sure do is that I'd done drag them into the line of fire talking to someone and getting clarity and dumb. Asking for clarity is a completely different thing than boding with mark problem or dragging them into the problem because I find that if you drag them into the problem. You're actually getting the clarity that you're seeking but rather talking to the people around you Than I understand it. Then you've clearly articulated what the problem is number two guys with number one. They obviously express your problem. But then talk to the people closely. Rangoon if they can yom. You've clearly identified with the problem is I'll be able to clean understand it but be very surely dragging them into it. And of course we've been calling on the other side of that in the past week. Let other people dragged into problems so. Make sure that we don't do that. Get Opinions on solutions but Darnold of decisions for you and that's something that happens. A lot is obviously we want to get the pains of on solutions. But sometimes they're expecting people to make decisions for us. And that's something that I was got against is elected opinions. Unclogged often. Said people feel remind. Choose what would you do if I was in your shoes but I would do but I don't expect people to make the decisions for me They're not in a position he doesn't know what you know and obviously looking at a different set of eyes is good and helpful but not saying what you're saying so it's great to the opinions on solutions from others or what they would do but don't expect them let them make the decision for you. Number four is try to solve the problems. But don't beat yourself up if you can't. I always talk about how you doing the best that you came at the time that it's happening with the resources that you have to always trying solve the problem. That's of course what we're trying to but as much as we sometimes trying to solve the problem is complex solve that it doesn't mean that there's no answering it doesn't mean that we beat us up. It means that we keep spinning that Rubik's cube until we can fold find the best solution but a good way to to benchmark. This is. Am I doing this. I can't at the time that it's happening. The resources that I have number five is meet the issue head on. But don't dwell on it so you need to tackle the issues again. Talk about putting on spots not fine the ability to try and find that there's a problem or an issue straightaway or deal with the STRETO. He's always going to be better than letting it fester but again. Don't dwell on a find in the work of enduring Dr Spencer keeps talking about mind and heart coherence and that the buddy wants to take to the Pasta. The mind needs to take you to the future If you dwell on it you're going to be reading the Pasta and we don't want that you need to meet the issues head on Dwell on them forever. You need to get into that in-space of food thinking you need to conquer that problem in the move on you need to be living in the future so the body thinks you've achieved that right now and that's where you right in the spice number six is give you social spice from the problem. If you need to figure it out but don't run away from it so whilst money yourself some spice schmunity working on it rather than in it but don't run away from it at times of saying that people have a problem. We get significant rather than working on it. They separate themselves completely and then never actually put that faraway output that far APPs and festers infested it becomes a raging blazing off you at times. You're going to need some spice from the problem to figure it out but you don't run from it. It needs to be sold because it won't be solved on time and number seven is taking seriously when things go wrong but that gets enjoy yourself and I said it's a lot is Cobb Life is a journey and the destination is will be left with memories. And that's why I talk about. Life is measured in moments whether it's personal professional or family loss is measured in moments and we need to make sure that whilst problems a serious in Kane become seriously deal with them we got to remember to have some fun and celebrate the wings in celebrating the wings is something that I find is very very important and a lot of people. Forget that Tom's because if not celebrating the winds than at Brian is always burning in an area that is about what's next. What's next and we not getting that? Brian adherence. We need that. Brian Hubka here. We need to make sure with constantly celebrating. A wins appreciating where we are where we've come from and what we need to do to get better so as a city might Tonight or haven't had a lot of problems. A lot of things go wrong but have had things go wrong in the seven things on outline the things that I've done that along the way to try and help me get through the problem. Of course everybody has different personality. Everybody deals with things differently. This is not a second. This is my view. This is what's worked for me You take these seven steps and add your own or I mean. Some of them will will change into the white suit. Indicates that getting the result it's all about getting to that distant action whilst we might take a different journey. I'm such a recap march seven wiser expression problems. But don't do business egotistical emotional to control that ten bucks number to talk to your friends get their opinions but done drag them into the line of fire number three get opinions on solutions but make sure that no one else was making the decision by yourself. Number four is try to solve the problems but dumpy yourself up. If you can't number I you doing the best we can at the time that tiffany with the resources that you have a five. His tackled as issues head on. But don't dwell on them forever number six yourself some spicy if you need it but don't run away from the problem. He wants so self and number seven finally is whilst you need to take them seriously. Don't forget to have some fun. We need to have fun and as I said. Lock is measuring moment so to the listeners of sending messages about how? I DEAL WITH PROBLEMS OF WEXFORD POEMS. Bamdad sentenced to help you again. It's my perspective tight. Those many light them change them pennant. Pipe Asia Best Friend. Done at the sixty and seventy thousand votes. Got Three Room where you need to be. Get that Brian and hot coherence. So that we're operating in the future but conscience about the president right now. Don't let that pass tycoon. Take you back into the negative member mistake to there for us to learn and not mistakes unless we were paying two three times so when something's going wrong tackle it hit on be prepared in go out and beat. The bishop can be until next time. You've been listening to food. Bella and this is flash house by PAYDAY.
Haseeb Qureshi on the Unbelievable Story of the $25 Million Lendf.me Hack
"So last weekend. A defy protocol was hacked De Force. Which is a Chinese defy protocol backs by Multi Coin Capital last twenty four point nine million dollars via its lending platform. Lend me and let's not talk about the significance of that name. What happens with the D. Force attack? So it's kind of a complicated story and there's a little bit of a back story understand what exactly happened so it was a busy weekend and defy the the story centers around this particular asset called I. Nbc which was the cause of this hack and actually another hack. That happened twenty four hours before this hack so Let me let me. Just do a little to setup so I am. Bcc is this is just token that's basically a BTC peg minted by this company. I am talking. Which is a Chinese Theory Mall? It's like the biggest theorem on the world and I can see is not an ear. See Twenty it's an ear. See Seven seven seven. Two seven is a new token standard. That's kind of an augmentation of your see. Twenty there's sort of fancier see twenty with a bunch of other bells and whistles and it turns out those bells and whistles that they added to this token standard makes it behave somewhat differently than the RC. Twenty and it's a little bit complicated. What exactly those augmentation are but long story short. What it lets you do is if the contract that integrates Twenty doesn't know that it's integrating with seven seven seven you can potentially do re entrance the attack. We interesting attack for those remembers the same attack that attacked the Dow The original massive attack that resulted in the three and four so twenty four hours before this Linda thing happened I am. Btc which isn't seven seven. Seven was drained In the swap liquidity pool for Ambi Devers. So basically somebody was able to take a little bit of his NBC and steal all the money in the unit swap pool. That was that was a balanced between east and ears An IBM PC. So now this was not UNICEF's fault because you just want anybody to create a pool so he was like well you know this is kind of is really unfortunate but You know the people who created this pool should have known that it was well known in advance at seven seven seven. Have this problem so twenty. Four hours later So you know this is really bad. Everybody's talking this weekend. Twenty four hours later it turns out that some attacker out there was scouring of defy looking for places where similar type of attacks might have been possible in terms out the biggest liquidity pool anywhere for NBC was in Linda. So what is lend lend? F is a Chinese defy compound clone. That was built by these two guys. In China Mendel Yang is a Chinese defined buster and Shoeshine. Who's the founder of Spur Pool? Which is one of the largest theory mining pools so there too you can think of them as like defy celebrities in China. So this was a very hot project is widely renowned in China as being like the wheel. Breakout defy project Because China doesn't really have any big defy contenders was cut their their Export to the defy ecosystem. And if you if you remember back a few months ago they were actually brought to some controversy because they copy compound V ones code And they were aggressively listing assets into their collateral pool addy's mutations as their business model it's a lot of people in the West. Were kind of pissed off at them as being a derivative project content V. One so they they also an older version of compound rights compound upgraded to combine the two since then And compound has this very careful listening process where they list only one time. They do a risk review. They do all the stuff and Linda was a lot more aggressive in all of the assets that the added and one of the assets they added was this. Did you see and the reality is that people knew about this. We entrance the attack since at least June last year. Actually I think opens Zeppelin security research firm actually published an open source version of this exploit. That could actually worked against SLOP. This is back in June last year. So people you talked to anybody security. They know that this is a problem. So what happened was on April. Eighteenth us what was attacked twenty four hours later almost the dot it attacker started draining the lendup contract okay. You can think about this. As though basically the attacker is fooling this compound like protocol into thinking that they have more and more collateral than they really have and so if they're putting a little bit of collateral they can sort of double or triple eight quadruplet and they keep doing that over and over again taking bigger and bigger loans until eventually they take out a loan the size of off the money in the pool and By the end of about four hours of repeatedly iterating on draining money out of the pool the entire pool of Linda was empty and the attacker made off with twenty five million. Yeah so for people who are not with that attack. I'll just describe it briefly and also I just wanted to say the swap hack From the day before was a loss of three hundred thousand dollars but essentially the way this reinsuring reinsurance seat attack works is that it's like if you were to go to a bank teller and say. I want to withdraw one hundred dollars and your account has one hundred and five dollars within it. Then they'll give you your hundred dollars and then normally they would give it to you and then update your balanced five dollars but in this case with this contract does is. It's able to interrupt the teller at that point and requests the one hundred dollars again and because the balance in your account hasn't been updated five dollars. The bank teller thinks that you still have one hundred dollars like enables you to take out one hundred dollars again in. That's essentially how the these funds were siphoned from the Dow and from Linda me and you know these other and UNICEF Bob It's just like a small amount every time but it just keeps going in the smart contracts like matic and it works very quickly so one thing that I wanted to ask you about also was if the reinsurance vulnerability was known about with your c seven seven's from a year back then. Why haven't all the different smart contracts that might be vulnerable upgraded like an also weirdly? Why would it take somebody so long to even exploited if it was known for all this time? It's that's a great question It's it's sort of you know. People have this kind of efficient market hypothesis. Thing in defy that like well everybody in the world can see all these contracts and all the information is out there therefore the moment. That's something vulnerable is on May net. It should get hacked. And of course we see that. That's not true right. It takes some time for somebody to kind of put all the pieces together so a year ago it was known and security experts everywhere note. Seven has this issue. But you know it's like okay. Maybe the nine months or ten months later. Nbc's in Europe seven seven seven and they list on their own unions while pool. It's not that big yet and not many people in the West know what. Nbc is right And so it sort of takes some time for these things to get remembered an integrated in the right way that people realize like. Oh yeah there. There was at attack from a year ago. The real question in my head was it took twenty four hours after the use while pack for Linda for somebody to put the pieces together. Like oh I can do this to lend up as well And Try to imagine you know. There are a bunch of people probably looking. For what else can I do? What sort of a copycat attack that I can. Do you remember the Bee ex HAC? We saw a copycat attack like just a day later doing the same fundamental kind of thing with fresh loans against the asks. The same thing we saw today but it took a whole day for that attack number two to happen and I have to imagine. Somebody was like practicing. They were playing around with it. They were making sure the attack wasn't exactly the same. There are some different details. In how exactly that you contracts are set up but the overall problem was the same that the contract did not the contract allowed itself to get interrupted mid execution with another contract call. And that's the fundamental issue of re entrance fee that you have to avoid to fix this
Practical Decision Making
"Today I WanNa talk to you guys about decision making as much as I can from a practical perspective. Because I think that you know. There's a light instructor renewal courses and there's when I'm talking to a room full of. Cf is we always say well. When should you start teaching? Adm and and the answer. The question is from day one right but it's really really hard thing to teach and by the way. Adm is Aaron article. Decision-making I don't take that for granted anymore. I hate when people use acronyms and I don't know what they are. Some pilots had never heard of him actually was in a room full of. Cf is some backwards like what's ADM so it's like okay. We can't take anything for granted but decision making is a really hard thing to teach and I always tell. Cf is one of the hardest. Parts of our job is on day one. We do everything and it's like a steady progressive poll out of equation and on the last day. Theoretically were doing nothing right so we're transferring this ninety one point three pilot in command decision making ability to a student in a perfect world but one of the main challenges of doing that is in training. We do what I call flying in a fishbowl. Say that very affectionately by the way. I love my fishbowl. But it's like San Francisco my little plastic castle. And this is my fishbowl. And we don't leave it very often. You know so in training can say to yourself. I make great decisions. You know like the wind is blowing strong today. How about we scrub the flight? And it's okay great. We scrubbed the flight but in reality as much as that's good stuff like teaching yourself to turn around walk away. Live the fire another day. That's all great. I'm not discouraging out on any level but you get out into the real world things become a lot more complex and we're GONNA go through some systems and some tricks that I can give. You possibly will help you make better decisions. Kinda give you for me like what? What is this sort of nightmare scenario? Not Really A NIGHTMARE SCENARIO. But a tough one. I had two students both of whom were Training California. And both who did my actually. I don't know where they did their privates but I did their instrument in California this is I don't know ten years ago and So I knew they both understood my processes of standardization and personal minimums and all that sort of stuff that I outlined in my setting standard all the stuff that I teach and I knew they knew that so they say to me one day. Hey we're going to go buy one seventy two actually. There's they weren't actually buying it somebody else's binding to one they were. GonNa go pick them up so my two guys in one plane and two other guys that they knew in the other plane they were going to go out to Virginia in the summertime and fly these airplanes all the way back to California and I joked that it's my nightmare scenario. Because that's that's a that's a long flight that's a lot of time in the airplane and for a Stra California pilot. There's a lot of weather you might encounter in the summertime between Virginia and California that maybe never seen before so the funny part of the call was. Hey can we take you out and buy launch and you can maybe give some pointers on what we should how we should think about this. So I had a lunch. I had like one hour to figure out. What am I going to say to these guys? One of my going to tell them that might make them safer. That might make a difference and the only thing I could really come up with from my own experience that I could cover in an hour that they would actually remember was. There's GonNa come a time where you guys are having a discussion like you're not sure what to do. You're not sure if you should press on to the next airport. You're not sure if you should circumnavigate a line of rain showers tipping my head Scott Online and rainshowers there. You have some decision to make and when you have to make that decision my my best advice you the thing that I could maybe give you. That will help you in one hour of lunch over. Mcdonald's or doing is land the airplane and have that discussion in the pilot's lounge and make that decision on the ground and if the right decision is to continue flying get back in the airplane and flying. That's a piece of cake but it's Q. Easy to sort of continue with the momentum of an airplane moving along at one hundred twenty nine. You're seeing all these various options and can make decision making very difficult so just getting yourself to slow down. In the decision making process can be incredibly powerful
NYC mayor and governor are at odds over continued school closures
"There are now at least five hundred fifty seven thousand cases of corona virus in the United States more than twenty two thousand people have died from it New York state alone has more infection cases than any country the largest public school system in the U. S. has been closed for a month the mayor of New York says they need to stay closed through the end of the academic year but over the weekend the governor pushed back on that these two guys do not like one another and they're not afraid to show it correspondent Steve casted bomb has the back and forth on Saturday New York's mayor surprised a lot of people with his announcement saying that he would keep schools closed for the rest of the school year and focus on resuming in classroom education in September within September is a good day to think about when things get more fully back to normal R. and we know it will take a different kind of approach than we've ever had it seems to be something that caught governor Andrew Cuomo by surprise in the mayor's position which is keeping schools should be canceled for the rest of the year when we made the decision to close the schools we made it for the entire metropolitan region you can't make a decision just within New York City without coordinating that decision with the whole metropolitan region he said build Blasio didn't have the legal authority to make the unilateral decision it is my legal authority in this situation yes in fact the governor ordered schools to close back then after mayor de Blasio was reluctant to do so at the time even though he was under tremendous pressure from teachers and others to close the system the mayor and the governor apparently spoke afterwards and there still seem to be some difference of opinion between the two on Sunday our job is to protect the children New York City to protect the family's New York City to protect our educators and our job is to make sure that we beat back the coronavirus once and for all it's abundantly clear that to do those things we have to keep our schools close for the remainder of the school year first we have to have a coordinated approach on the reactivation if you will schools businesses workforce transportation it all has to be coordinated number two it all has to be coordinated regionally governor Cuomo argued that you can't make the call now on schools without knowing where things will be in may he said if it's safe to reopen businesses becomes problematic to do so while keeping schools closed
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"I didn't laugh out loud from Think at least five. So Sean one things that did stand out to me. Was that secret. Message that Dinky finds right at the end of the story that someone has slipped into his mail. That says you know if you want out. Let me know and let me know by saying. Don't stand so close to me is best police saw like. Is it the best believe song though I mean what about Roxanne Roxanne got any better than that? Yeah I'm a big fan of the the three songs that synchronicity king of pain and wrapped around your finger and the third one is in that little love one but yeah all. Synchronicity is really better than don't stand so close to me. Maybe that's part of the tests that you have to say. I want your help but I disagree. About which song the Best Lee saw. Yeah Yeah Roxanne's good. I'm a big fan of so lonely off the first album. Yeah I think though. He's not even my top ten listeners. What's your favorite police saw? Yeah again this is just showing the dinky sort of Dork. Well on that note. I think that's going to be all for this. Episode of two guys to the dark. Tower came thanks. Jay. Thank you to. All of our social media is available in the show notes. If you'd like to show please rate us on Apple podcasts to support the show visit Patriot. Dot Com slash. Two guys dark tower. J. Next episode is Big One. We're beginning our coverage of the stand. Who Yeah and it's GONNA be a while. There were to be on the stand as well reader. So yeah I understand. It's a long book it is and we're going to be reading the extended version. So if you're gonNA read along with us be sure to pick up Dow one otherwise. You're gonNA miss some stuff and maybe have some differences but we'll be reading the stand and next episode will be covering book one chapters one through four as well as anything that comes before that so all the king essays and prologues and all those pieces leading up to that so it's about fifty pages worth reading so the stand prologue front material book one chapters one through four yet. We're really looking forward to it. Yes it's very timely. Subject matter as well yeah. Unfortunately yes alright. So for J Russo. I'm Chamkar thanks for listening a are we get started. I feel totally unprepared for this conversation but will make it happen. We always do. I'll fix it. Post fuck it. We'll do it live. Do and live dammit..
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"In a welcome everyone to two guys to the dark tower came a podcast where we discussed the characters connections in deeper meanings of Stephen King's magnum opus. The dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shaun ricker you can email us at two guys dark tower at gmail.com to support the show visit us at Patriotair Dot com slash. Two guys dark tower in this episode. We'll cover the novella. Everything's eventual found in the collection of the same name. Let's start the show. Dinky earnshaw a nineteen year. Old High School dropout. Working at a local grocery store is bullied by a colleague named skipper earnshaw has special powers that allow him to write letters made of unusual shapes in signals. Which when read by specific individuals causes their deaths? This power draws the attention of Mr Sharpton a recruiter for Transport Sharpton Sticky offer to have a job with fringe benefits if he uses. These powers dickey accepts but gradually realizes that this job is all that it seems all right so j as you mentioned this novella was collected in everything's eventual but it was first published in the October November Ninety seven issue of the magazine of fantasy and science fiction. Which as a good dark tower scholar will tell you is where the gunslinger short stories were first published. King certainly got a history with this publication. You have to wait around for fun stuff to hear the other place where the story was published before it came about. In the short story collection efforts to fundraise steer all the suspense the King States in the foreword for the Short Story in the collection that the idea came from a dream about a person pouring change into the storm. Green.
DIY Girl Power: How to confidently dive into DIY + Power Tools
"My weight wet for this week. Is that a woman invented one of the first ever circular saws. So that's a fun fact to have in your back pocket. If you're ever underestimated as a girl for using power tools or diy ing but at the time is around eighteen ten and there was a lot of inventing happening and so a lot of these inventions happened kind of simultaneously in different parts of the world where people invented really similar things but like totally independently of each other which is really interesting. So in America more specifically in Massachusetts a woman named Tabitha Babbitt is credited for having invented a circular saw entirely of her own volition around eighteen ten. She basically got the idea while watching two guys. Struggling with a pit saw and at the time those sauce could only cut like in one direction so it made ripping logs terribly terribly. Tedious and annoying. So they'd waistline basically half their energy moving the saw back and forth only cutting on one stroke so it was super inefficient so she basically noticed this and she was determined to make saw that would waste less time be way more efficient so she created this notched disk and rigged to spin with a pedal push of her spinning wheel. How inventive is this? And so basically it. With this invention would could be cut with a fraction of the time and effort. It took to use these pit sauce so I just thought that was super interesting and I think it's funny. How like she used something. That was like classically stereotypically. A woman's role like spinning wheels and applied that to a different field of like manual labor. Were men. Were doing most of the work and then something amazing came out of it so I think it's just a cool reminder when we're talking about like girl power and empowerment within DIY and being in a space set has been male dominated that like not only. Do we have a place in the industry as women? But it's also like we're coming into this to change the game my goal in empowering women to diy. Isn't that like we are just doing it. The same fitting ourselves into an existing place but that we're like reinventing and doing it on our own terms and for me that means like I wanNA look cute while I'm working on stuff. I don't WanNa wear like gross men's word clothing like I want to do it but do it. Cute so you can find me like doing woodworking with my magnetic eyelashes on in a full face of makeup. Because that's just like who I am and that's part of what empowers me and I don't feel like those. Two things are contradictory so just a word of encouragement here. That like do things on your own terms changed the game and if there's parts of like the DIY making woodworking space that make you feel like uncomfortable. You don't have to try to squeeze yourself in and make it fit. You can just do it differently so I talked about this with. Joanie and one of her tips is like orderonline. If you going to stores makes you uncomfortable and you feel out of place and you feel Underestimated than just by this stuff online instead so anyway being home and having all this time to reflect. I thought that fun fact was a good life lesson for us as girls in this space.
Morons: Its not Roadhouse.. Its a roundhouse!
"It's morons in the news. Here's Bob and Sharon Kotkin kickoff morons in the news today with our Moron of the day take it away tied. And there's a young lady in Florida of all places and she got into an altercation with her boyfriend and what happened was the man said when the police showed up that they were lying in bed together and told victim that she wanted to have Some together and he denied her that because of the fact that the lady was going to leave him and get back with us but well the woman then decided to get up in an agitated state and in the altercation yet this is quoted in the report she roundhouse kick demand in. Nope IS REAL LIFE. You round out kicked him and the lady is a black belt in martial. Art is what so when she was detained. The paramedic showed up. She then coughed on the paramedics and screamed. I have corona virus and she was then taken to the hospital where they have not been confirmed whether she did or not but she is being held on seven thousand dollars worth of bond in Florida. I bet she does not have shoes. Just one angry woman you know if anybody can roundhouse kick look. I'm not saying I haven't had my share disappointment and good for you. Lady looked on Sunday around one thirty in the morning. Somebody's listening to this gold. Andy Lynch that was parked in front of a hospital in Philly and they took the ambulance at this period. In our country's history they took it for a joy ride. That's bad enough but apparently they didn't realize that he. Tm was in the back of the ambulance when the TM guy figured out what was going on he called nine one one during the joy. Reid and then when it's slowed down a little bit. He jumped out of the moving ambulance. The he didn't do well. He had to be treated for cuts and bruises at a hospital. The cops eventually found the ambulance abandoned in a parking lot mall so far. They haven't found a dude. Who did this? They will share his and finally Fleecing Carolina looking for two guys who chained in ATM to a stolen pickup truck and tried to drag it away. I'm on Zero Times. Sweep the news. What love a moron? That is not a quitter.
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"E e draw your inspiration. Something yes Another Dr Tower thin is that when Dennis is crawling through the sewer pipes. The narrator says if Dennis had entered one of the sewer pipes bit closer to flags apartments. He might well have died himself. Perhaps it was luck that saved him or fate or those gods he pray to take a stand on the matter fate luck intervention of God's sounds like a very much so and also a stand on the matter Yeah there's all sorts of connections between Randall. Flagg the stand the dark tower. All coming together here in this one. Little section yeah. It's almost like it's a multi verse that's connected by Dark Dour indeed all right. Well we WANNA take a moment to thank our patrons who are supporting our show in getting access to exclusive patriotic content such as bonus podcast episodes. Who Do we have as new patrons tape? We have two new patrons Sean The first one is Dustin 'em who signed on at the gunslinger level. Thank you Dustin. And also Sharon L. also signed on at the gunslinger level. Thank you Sharon. Excellent well they can look forward to new podcast every month. that are exclusive on patron and we also list names of our top patrons on the support the show page of our website which as reminder is two guys to the dark tower came dot com. Yes thank you both in Thank you to all of our patrons jets time for fun stuff. And if you don't mind I'd like to start because you had just mentioned about a dennis entering the sewer pipes. Okay and there was a lot that was happening in this section. That reminded that this story seems like a kids. Version of the shawshank redemption. Yeah it did. We've got an unjustly imprisoned person. Peter in fact is trying to escape at one point. He's trying to figure out how much ropy needs and he does. All the figures in his head and I was reminded that anti do frame was an accountant and really good with numbers. Just like Peter is that there's a connection there. We have dentists going through the sewer pipes to get into prison instead of out like Andy did but but the same sort of idea here The ARC with painting that we were talking about before is sort of along the themes of the Shawshank redemption. When I worked at a drugstore that rented videos. There is a guy who came in every Tuesday because that was when the new videos came out and he would get all the new videos and watched them and bring them back the next day he was retired guy and he got the Shawshank redemption and I remember he and I had a long talk about it. Because he said you know. This is a really really good movie. I'm like I agree. I love the movie was great. He and his point was like the only problem is is that Andy. Do Frame was judged and put in prison and he shouldn't have tried to escape and that was wrong of him. He should have stayed in prison. And my thing was. I think you're missing the point of the story. Which is the guy was unjustly imprisoned? And so he felt that he was within his rights to try to escape but but his whole thing was like nope gift to live with the consequences of whatever happens and immediately. Caitlyn's yeah it made me think of paintings to because it seems sort of thing right like there's that theme of there are times when I may be following the law but the law's wrong and even though Thomasson flagger in charge I might need to join the rebels because they're what's right for the kingdom even if the Kingdom has laws. That say that I shouldn't be doing this and so there's another connection between Shawshank. Yeah there's a lot there it also reminded me of it in the losers club They spend a lot of time exploring tunnels and aqueducts and sewers. Ends Monster Lives in basically the sewer or at least deep underground sewers to get around Different places easily. So there's an echo here of the losers club basically Dennis maybe as a one person. Losers Club in this instance. Or maybe it's Dennis and Peter and Ben all working together. They're the losers club with Pena's the I don't know but but is he the the patron the metaphor might fall apart with painter. But yes So we'll leave. We'll you've penny out of the club but I know connections to other books. Like the stand in it. Don't really count as Fini's but it's fun to see how these things have. Echoes and connections to other Stephen King Books. So do you have any fun stuff? J I do we get another opportunity for an Odin Kirk title announcement when Dennis Following Thomas. When he sleepwalking they end up in the space to spy on the the king's living room and when Dennis sees the slot open up and reveal the people's the one in the book is to Dennis. Those holes looked strangely like floating is. And that's when Bob odenkirk POPs up and says is is of the Dragon. You mean good stuff indeed. Yeah Another thing that I just kind of lumped into our fun stuff. Section is Peter's rope like the rope itself. I found myself. This is not me criticizing anything but I just found myself wondering how should I imagine the thickness of the rope? Is it? Something that is so Gossamer thin that it belies any possibility of being strong enough to hold? Peter's weight and that's part of the the magic of the story. It's part of the magic of Peter's craftsmanship. It's it makes it all the more impressive that he can make this rope that is like a spiderweb or something right but because of his ingenuity and hard work and the intricacies of the dollhouse loom that it actually still works even though it's that or is it just that he makes a rope. That's like a shoelace thickness. But still impressive still thinner than you kind of want a rope to be to hold up the weight of a of an adult. So I'm Kinda trying to figure out which is more impressive thing and if I were assayed adaptiveness into a movie and I was talking to somebody in the props department however I instruct them like do I make it like the spiderweb. Do I make like the shoelace or something in between I just don't really know where to come down on this? I think either one would work. Yeah it's very thin no matter what. Yeah 'cause he's taking what five threads at a time and then breaking them into rope? I mean we could probably figure it out. If we set on an average napkin would be about twelve inches by twelve inches. So the threads are twelve inches because he does all the math right we could. He needs to go three hundred feet. Give or take twenty feet. 'cause he's willing to jump in making this much a week in this much a month and that but yeah whatever the case. It's very thin and I think a lot of weight is put on well. My Mom taught me the special braiding technique with the over under and over under and through. And that's making it even stronger than it normally would be so. Yeah but it is very thin and when Peter Standing on it they say what? He's testing it like if somebody were to look in. They would see him floating there because they wouldn't be able to see it so I imagine it's fairly small look listeners. If you have an opinion on this send us your feedback. At two guys tower at gmail.com I had a little W T.F moment here. There is apparently eyeglass technology in the story so wherever d'alene exist in the world of time and I guess as part of the same world where Roland decided that it was a time before where there was really advanced technology and now things have regressed. Maybe there there's less but the whole stat family seems to suffer from bad luck and bad eyesight. They all squint. Their whole lives right when we learned this. I just chalked it up as okay. Well this is a fantasy story set in a pseudo medieval period. Nobody has eyeglasses. And then there's a scene when the stat family is sitting around in the house after dark by the fire. They're just doing their evening. Like relax station stuff and the DAD is wearing reading glasses as a long winded way for me to say what's going on here if they have glasses. Give everybody glasses if they don't have glasses. Don't have glasses. I guess it's possible that you can have simple magnification and that might work for reading but doing something for distance isn't possible But anyway like. What the Heck's going on here? Yeah like another bad editing problem. I mean he just wanted him to have that moment of like you know. Knock on the door and yanks the glasses off like. I wasn't expecting a knock on the door at this hour. And then my final funds stuff is. There's a moment when we learned that one of the former kings of d'alene Allen died when he was struck by lightning playing cubits on the back lawn in the pouring rain and this was the evidence of how he was like a mad king. But when I heard about somebody like playing a game on grass in the rain and is struck by lightning. I of course thought of caddyshack when the priest Mrs is pot and a yells rat far and instructed by stroke of lightning. Anyway I read this about the mad King Allen and immediately thought rat farts that that's classic classic caddyshack. Yeah and I'll bring it to my final fun stuff than so Allen was part of flags plan to.
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"You can also email us at two guys Dr Tower at gmail.com in this episode. We'll cover. Jerusalem's Lot. short-story founded nightshift. Let's start the show. Charles Boone has just moved into his ancestral home a chapel wait in Maine along with his manservant Calvin. They quickly learned the house is not all that it seems and mysteries about Boone's ancestors in a nearby abandoned village may be a cause of concern. I just twenty even have an ancestral home. I mean one has ancestors who have a home. That's been passed down through the ages okay. It's a fairly common phrase in Scooby Doo J. I wasn't in the Scooby Doo frame of mind you. I've always always the scrupulous frame of mind all right so Jerusalem's Lot Jay. This is a short story that was first published in nightshift which is an early collection of Stephen King Stories. I think it's actually the first short story collection was published two came out in nineteen seventy eight and this is one of the few short stories in that book that that was not in a magazine I most of his short story collections were brought together from his publications in men's magazines but Jerusalem's lot seem to be written specifically for the book and it's interesting because I'm guessing it's because salems lot itself came out in nineteen seventy five and it was fairly you popular for King Carrie was the first book and then sales came out second and then there was a TV mini series of Salem Slot in nineteen seventy nine so Jerusalem's lot serves as a type of Prequel. It's the first book in the collection. I didn't do any research but I'm guessing it was probably a sales point at that point of uncollected Stephen King story ever never before seen potentially. Yes good reason to buy this collection right just for that one story yeah well. You know I find it a good idea to buy any Stephen Stephen King Short story collection. Yeah for the most part. Yeah four past midnight might be ah that's a rough one. That's a rough one this. This story was also collected in two thousand five for the illustrated Salems lot edition it also has a short story called one for the road which is also in nightshift which is serves as a sequel to Salem Slot. It's a after the events and we'll talk about that short story in a few episodes so after we get through Sam's itself that's right. There's also a comic book adaptation in a book called Secretary of dreams by Glenn Chadbourne had borne that was published by cemetery dance which does a lot of special editions in comics. I'm guessing after last episodes. Comic Tobacco will be picking that up any three times soon. We'll we J. Yeah I sort of been soured on comic book adaptations of books. But I don't know one adaptation shouldn't be the only thing ended. I expose myself to perhaps I should give it a chance. Yeah and Glenn Chadbourne seems to have an interesting resumes an artist. I think he came to prominence in a Stephen King newsletter. That's how he got seen in. I he was doing some illustrations for Stephen King newsletter back in the day and has since turned that into a a career where he's been doing other illustrated work including some in the same slot illustrated traded addition as well as some other Steven King Book so worth looking up and as I mentioned this is a Prequel to Salem slot in some ways It's got the full blamed Jerusalem's lot in case. You're wondering what sales stood for now you know yes. It's also a hint at the fact that we're going to be spending a lot of time time a lot of episodes talking about empires in the coming weeks and months yeah exciting stuff. I'm always down for Vampires Empires and I guess that's a good way to transition so I've obviously read the story before because I read night shift when I was much younger so probably thirty some years go now but for whatever reason it's been stuck in my head that Jerusalem's lot as a prequel to sail was another vampire short that story and that would build on the the vampire -ness of of Salems lodden and introduced that to it and then we get into the format which is a pistol Larry and and which immediately draws connections to Bram Stoker's Dracula and I'm thinking hey. We're GONNA have more vampires but oddly enough. There's some endebted here but it is not a typical vampire story yeah and I really loved the epistolary format that King used. I thought he was remarkably successful restful at not only following this structure to stick with the literary format but also to emulate the language of the time period that the the story takes place. This really felt like a story that was written contemporaneous. Lee with the events just it rang true to like another Bram. Am Stoker story or an Edgar Allan Poe story. It just some of the words that king chose to use some of his spelling choices some of his like compound compound words and odd capitalizations in all felt of a piece. I think it worked really well. Set the tone. Yeah I totally agree so this. I should have mentioned surly but the story set pre-civil war in the eighteen fifties and it does very much mimic what you might think letters at the time would sound like or if you've read letters of the time what actually did sound like so King Natalie has an ear for Modern Day language as we've talked about before but also early American languages well and as I like to do I I did a little bit of a a little bit of research on epistolary format so J. It's interesting interesting because there are different types of a pillory writings. There's model logic which would be a story that's told from one perspective and for most of the store store you think it is just from one perspective it's Boone's letters to bones but then at some point it becomes dial logic meaning to because we get these journal entries trees from Calvin that sort of fill in a couple of blanks where we don't get boone's perspective either because he's taken ill or we just get a little bit of insight into Calvin and and then there's a third call polly logic which incorporates many different types of of writing and we get a little bit of that with that bonus code from one of Boone's owns descendants that makes it polly logic so there is your English literature terminology lesson for the day aw do the epistolary sub formats apply only to the type of writing. Is it only for letters or like if it's like not a letter but I don't know a series of journal entries or something like that yeah so I think epistolary just means not necessarily letters always but also different formats could be journal entries newspapers and that's how Dracula set upright where there is not only the journal Journal but there's also I think like ships manifest just in there and there's newspaper articles so there's a bunch of different types of writing and I would imagine that nowadays we get ones with emails and texts and stories like that would that would still apply as a pistol even if they're not in a letter could like a found footage style of film. be an pistolera Mary. That's a good question I would imagine so interesting so be really cool to adapt this story into a movie in that way somehow or TV mini series ace yeah we onto something here we might be so the format is interesting too because we especially when you get to so that boat is coded because I for one you sort of take boone's letters as straightforward yeah you take him at his word like you had had no reason to think that he's lying or insane or making this up but it's not till the end when you get the Coda. The descendant puts a little bit of a different spin in says oh well this is what happened in and I'm not sure that's the case and I I'm just going to have to do some more research on my own and oh by the way I hear some weird scratching in the walls off the Delekta do right right yeah I mean like when we first introduced to Boone we find out that he one of the reasons why he moved to Maine because he was ill and in he was kind of like his own. Sanity was in question and now as this ancestral home and it's huntings are driving him mad add are we to believe him. You know face value is he going is he. Just a kind of a person who's sickly succumbing to the pressures of the haunting of his home and and what's happening in Jerusalem's lot or is he just going back into the same madness that he narrowly the escaped from you know before he moved to Maine right so in the beginning. I guess it feels like it could go either way and then we're just along for the ride. We're like we're either reading being the writings of a madman which culminate in his suicide because of what he believes to be true or his perfectly sane person experiencing thing ridiculous events that he thinks he can only put a stop to buy ending his own life right and then like in the CODA. It's like yeah. All all of the things he said happened in the letters. There's no evidence for you know like the the church in Jerusalem's. Lot was not destroyed. There was no gaping pit down into the bowels of the earth. If he's not none of the things he talked about in the letter. Were there so clearly. He imagined all of this but they're scratching in the walls. There's there's there must be some giant rats yeller. You know so I guess here. We go again here. We go again yeah yeah so as I said earlier I was expecting this to be more about vampires but as you read into it it really becomes more of a HP lovecraft type through mythos story where instead of undead creature sucking the blood of of their victims there are these awful evil ones that are beyond the Ken of man that are we're living in the earth and weird magic's bring them back into our plane of existence whether that be through this book of magic that Boone's loons ancestor reads from an calls magic fourth and causes all this craziness and it's much bigger than the mind telomeres giant worms and and it really sort of took me by surprise because again like I was saying I was expecting vampires and instead we get this giant worm creature tears apart Calvin and drives drives Boonta wanted to to suicide but what was your thought on what would you were expecting what what you got Jay. I was also expecting vampires and I think that this was moving along really splendidly in terms of we're going to see vampires. We're GONNA see Vampires. king was doing a lot of really good work with vampire imagery injury and vampire foreshadowing he described the the rocky shoreline where the the waves are breaking as you know fangs rate and and there are all these illusions to incomplete reflections and stuff like that so there's a lot of lot of imagery just like in the beginning of little sisters of Luria where he's really setting the stage for by the way bloods involved in the story by the way vampires involved in the story so yeah when it turn onto Khufu it was like a really sharp left turn for me in where I was kind of like gobsmacked by that that was when boone started yelling out the crazy language that was from the that old book great and he was possessed by the language the this magical force that had finally possessed him none he was speaking in tongues or whatever and like this just got weird really weird all of a sudden and I wasn't disappointed. I should say I I didn't think it was bad but I was is really psyched for vampire reveal. You know like I was hoping that some deeply ancient vampire was going to come out of that pit that hand hand that crawled its way out was actually a vampire and that's where we were going to go and instead it was snow worm time and and so it worked by wasn't what I was expecting know exactly that the whole inbred cult of of his ancestors is just adding to the weirdness and creepy -ness of the whole thing while they're there is dead both in the house Jerusalem's Lot. They're not the type of data we are expecting expecting in not caused the way that we were expecting them to and we have not read sale Mossad yet. Obviously that's coming up so we can't do too much comparisons but I wonder if this is king and just sort of setting the stage for there's something about this area of the world that's drawing evil or monsters or weirdness here whether and that's why vampires ars to Salems lot to come to in the book. I guess we'll find that out if there's a special reason but it does seem like there is something about this area that that's causing this. There's a sign only vampires ars conceive evil. Welcome come here. Lots the eat free. HBO and Blood Yes so when I put it all together. A lot of this seems again. This is early King he obviously published a number of books and autonet short stories at this point but it does seem like early king we talked about how the gunslinger doesn't seem like a Stephen. King Book is the writing is so different from what it is and it's almost like and it was a young man who was trying something out yeah you know drawing from different inspirations and the seems like another story where that's the case a little bit not a little bit a lot better in my opinion as far as nailing it though like he's got the Bram stoker letter writing and and the vampires he's got the HP lovecraft weird Catholic peace and he's able to put that altogether and even though it is some sort of pastiche it still works as a Stephen King Story and he's obviously a the master at the writing like he talks about in the forward tonight shift about how his main thought is story story story..
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"Stays leaves us two thousand seven behind his goal to get up to november twenty second nineteen sixty three and stop lee harvey oswald tae. That's how it was like a book. We know yeah. That sounds really familiar. King must have had the story like just bouncing around his head. You know we talked a little bit about it. In a couple episodes ago like he made no secrets about. I we have this idea that i wanna do something with it and i'm going to try it out anywhere. I can eventually mated happen. It's almost like he talked himself into it. Yeah we've mentioned eleven twenty two sixty three enough times on this podcast. Maybe that qualifies as a dark tower adjacent <unk> so one last thing that sort of stuff and it's also in this open open letter and despite the fact that kings pumping up these comics he also had his bat you know 'cause he always says he doesn't mind giving rights away to stuff because the book's always exist even if the t._v. show shitty who cares to the books exist. You can always go back to the books. He says that here too zeke some of these things will probably only suck but who really cares readers can always go back to the books which don't suck although some critics would beg to differ which is a good line as well. I like self effacing king. Yeah you also mentioned that he loved to write spiderman that that'd be the one comic book character that he'd like to write remarkable which can we we make that happen like. I don't think he'd do a bad job now all right well. I think we're going to leave the graphic novel adaptation behind us end on that note hopefully enjoyed it if you have thoughts on the graphic novel adaptation or if there's specific ones that you feel are better more worth jay's time in my time to discuss. Let us know that because i know that there's a lot more. They come after this <unk>. I've read some and i know there's a little sisters laurie one. That's not bad because i think it's a short story so they're able to cover that fairly decently so maybe we'll get to that sometime but maybe not at the very least if there's comics fans is out there which i think there are let us know if there's ones you think we should do but if not that's going to be all for this episode of two guys to the dark tower came. Thanks jay thank you links to all of our contact information's available in the show notes..
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"Also discover that the kindle could access newspapers from the future using that feature wesley learn his ex girlfriend and his students girlfriend are going to die in a bus accident. Can they stop it and what about the kindle jay. This is a rip roaring crackerjack type of story <hes> after after the initial fantastical setup of a electronic device that can show you other novels and other realities it quickly becomes a race to rescue the two main characters significant others in a story. That's very reminiscent of eleven twenty to sixty three in sort of how the how the pacing works and how the setup works yeah you can see a lot of the bones that went into or maybe eleven twenty to sixty grew out of in this story and this is a really interesting book in terms of the fact that amazon approached king to write them a story to promote the kindle and he was all in he's like yeah i love gadgets emmy gimme gimme and he wrote a story about a kindle or kindle in three days in three days. Yeah yeah it's sorta. It's sort of funny and king is one who likes experimenting inning with format. I think <hes> you know he did the plant which was a serialized e book one of the one of that one i yeah he did the riding the bullet which i was also <hes> on early e-book he did the green mile which was serialized his back like in the olden days <hes> he did a few stories that were exclusive to audio book at first and yet well and i. I think what's interesting about when he does that. He realizes that the format can also drive how you approach the writing an impact the the story which is an interesting way of looking at it and i think when we started reading this you texted me and said wow this is a story that needs to be read on kindle. Even though it's been been published elsewhere afterwards i agree and i think i went old school for me and went to my old kindle to read this <hes> as opposed to picking up a book on and i think you read it on kindle as well. Yes yes yeah so as you said this was a will give you a little background for those who may not know the history this written exclusively for the amazon kindle. This story was published on february twelfth. Two thousand nine eventually an audio book of kirk came out in february of two thousand ten and it was read by holter graham and the only reason i mentioned that is because he's an actor whose first film was maximum overdrive directed by stephen king <hes> and he's also read the audiobook look for christine so he has multiple stephen king connections. Is that why holter graham is a household name a household name to this day <hes> king you had mentioned earlier about how he was excited about writing a book for the kindle about the kindle because he loves gadgets but in the end he also said i did did it because it was interesting. I'm fairly prolific. It took three days and i've made about eighty thousand dollars. You can't get that for short fiction for playboy or anyone else. It's ridiculous. It's so transparent though is like in what other way could i have made eighty thousand dollars off three days work. I know like maybe if you're on jeopardy. You know like that's the only other way you could do it. <hes> so you had pointed out that this was written for the kindle but it was actually the kindle to write a second generation amazon had had pretty good success with the first kindle and then i think they made like the kindle d._x. Or something they made a bigger version and that didn't sell as well than the they <unk> decided all right. We're going to release the kindle too and it was smaller it had like a more compact keyboard and it costs a little less a little bit easier to afford and this was part of the story was ardo that promotion <hes> i believe the story was released on almost the exact same day as the kindle two as announced so is available to purchase through the kindle store. You know the same day you could buy this new kindle and i say it's a little less expensive because in two thousand nine the price of the kindle at launch was three hundred fifty nine dollars yikes which yeah it's a lot of money for <hes> non-necessary surrey electric gadget one that didn't even like no audio no touchscreen. I don't think right like it was all right yeah. It was just a black and white simple gadget for. I'm just reading books. Yeah i mean we can try to justify thousand dollar smartphones today because they connect us to everything in every way right yeah so it's still are too much money. From what <hes> you know this thing. We put in our pocket but for something that just read e books nearly four hundred dollars. It's a a lot to <hes> to ask but they still sold a lot of them and <hes> but also made me wonder like did wesley purchase of this device for spite for raking up with his girlfriend <hes>. It seemed like maybe maybe that was like one of the least realistic things that happened in the story really goes so you know college professor who probably doesn't have a lot of disposable income. He's gonna drop four hundred dollars on a kindle just to get back at his koskoff right yeah <hes> so in addition to coming out on kindle <hes> in two thousand fifteen it was later published in bazaar of bad dreams which is a collection of stories by king and what is interesting about that is that there was significant revisions made eight to the story as king tends to like to do a number of them are along the lines of hey. I don't need to explain what it kindle is because they've been around for for at least six years now. It's not this fancy new gadget that where the books come from they come out of thin air professor smith knows that i wonder if it can connect to the internet the internet you say. I'm gonna post an article in the show notes that talks through some of the changes. There's a couple of places where where things are trimmed out and characters name is changed <hes> but i think the most significant deletion is about the j._f._k. Assassination and alternate alternate timelines are probably because he knew that eleven twenty to sixty three was on the way so he he did want to repeat himself there so i'll post that we did not do a side by side reading this and both jay and i read the original version and not the revised version from bizarre bed green so for all of you completed out there. That's where we stand. You know this story was i guess kind of falls into the category of like fixing the future by knowing the past. You're the time travel story. If you will and king has explored that from a couple of different angles the most <hes> i guess direct version of that story is eleven twenty to sixty three three where the character actually travels back in time right to change something that will happen in his perspective of the future but i really liked his twist in the dead zone where where he makes a character able to see the future and he sees a dark future coming so he tries to stop it so he doesn't travel through time but what he can see ahead and it's really an exploration of the same idea though like if you could go back in time and change something tragic would you do it earn and at what cost and eleven twenty to sixty three is more direct in that and this is kind of like the dead zone a little bit where the kindle gives them at view in the future and now what are they going to do and at what cost agreed have you ever seen. The christopher walken saturday night live skit that mocks the dead zone tastic. You could get an ice cream headache right here. It's gonna hurt really bad. The best part of that is every time he grabbed somebody. The dramatic music plays and you're like oh all right so so you know the stories interesting because in some ways i said it before i think cracker jack's the way to go like it is a very quick read. I was rushing through at the idea like the whole idea of like hey look a kindle that can read alternate books and then tell you the future and then this this race against time to to save the girlfriends. You're like wow this is really good and well written for the most part but there are some parts of it just sort sort of light drop off and when you spend too much time thinking about it. It's just like <hes> you could sorta. Tell the king pry with this often three days and again jeff and i have a tendency to want to give king a higher standard clear than most things i if i've written this i would be proud of myself for the rest of my life could be like hey look at this great idea came up with and it's well written and people are gonna love to read it and then but for king it's like <hes> yeah. They're so corny any stuff in here. Yeah it definitely did feel like it was a little craigie around the edges. It was like he wrote it in three days. Nobody edited it but i'm sure jeff. Bezos was happy to write that eighty thousand dollar check so song so good so one of the things that i thought was interesting. Is this whole concept concept of earn novel so you know there is a a in the san man which stephen king is a fan of by neil gaiman <hes> a the the concept that that morpheus the lord of dreams is also the lord of stories in his realm. There is a library that contains all the books that authors never wrote to go into this library and see the books that could have been written by by authors and king sort of explores that here with the fact that there's all these novels is that other that hemingway would have written our shakespeare would have written if he had had time but the one constant that the main character wesley smith notices is that there tends to be the and earn novel is he calls it sort of the one book that is always constant throughout that person's oeuvre whether they're in our world or or three million four hundred seventy six nineteen and it made jay at least come up with an idea of like what would stephen king's novel be what's the one book that would transcend space and time in all realities. I liked giving myself that that challenge is to think of of all the books that he's written and the ones that i that i am familiar enough with which one would always pop up no matter what happens to stephen king in these other herbs right. If you wrote only crime novels he would still write this one book if he didn't write it all he would write this one book or something yeah or if he died after just one. It's this book and <hes>. I think it's the shining it's it's an important important book in his body of work. It's probably not the most important certainly not the most famous but i think that there's so much of himself. In that book it's one of the books that he wrote that was largely about his own struggles with addiction and i think he was trying to exercise is some of these darker things in his own psyche by creating the character of jack torrance and i suspect that no matter what king ever accomplished otherwise he always would have written this book for that reason so when you put this challenge to me my immediate thought was the stand and then i struggled with well. Maybe if it's not the standard is it the dark tower or is it. It could even be salems mm slot and the more i thought about it. I realized that you had the correct answer that the i think the shining i've thought about it a couple of different times over the past win and it totally is the shining because let's say for instance. He didn't become a horror writer at all. He could still write the shining. It's not it it. It has horrific parts parts but it's not a horror book. It's a psychological thriller. If he became a literary a total literary writer this could be the one book that stood out is sort of lay he he's he's message michigan. John wrote little bit by by doing this and the fact that you said it's so personal to him <hes> i could totally see this as being his novel. I think that you've probably probably stuck stuck a pin in the right book here so you wanna know prize great skill set it on my shelf next to all all of my other nice so the other thing that both you.
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"You can also email us at two guys dark tower at gmail.com in this episode. We'll cover the movie adaptation of hearts in Atlantis. Let's start the show per description on I._M._D._b.. Hearts in Atlantis is the story of widowed Liz Garfield Oath Davis and her son Bobby <music> Anton Yeltsin when mysterious stranger Ted broad again Sir Anthony Hopkins enters their lives. That's it that's a Scott. It's all I._M._D._B.. Says it's pretty straightforward. I guess it makes sense in addition to hope Davis Anthony Hopkins and Anton Yeltsin Elchin this movie also starred Meco Burum not sure if I'm pronouncing her name properly she played Carol Gerber and David Morse as the adult adult version of Bobby Garfield along with Celia Weston who played Alana Styles Celia Weston wasn't exactly a top billed member of the cast but I thought she was worth calling out because she played Alana styles and I thought that was a pretty important character for bobby. Even though she wasn't in the movie for very long she might have only had the one seen right. Yeah I think so <hes> she'd have a speaking role in the second scene when bobby goes back and gets the money that's right yeah you can see her but she doesn't say yeah and this movie was directed by Scott Hicks. I don't know what else he's done. I don't think anything else connecting with Stephen King Stories now he did snow falling on Cedars was the other sort of big movie he did around the same time <hes> not as important but of interest to me is he did a lot of inaccessible videos so he came up with that whole dropping the the cue you cards routine. <hes> yeah came up with that definitely not Bob Dylan. I don't know what you're talking about. It and the screenwriter is probably more interesting than the director <hes> as it is William Goldman who also Hollywood royalty goodwill bill will he wrote the screenplay for misery another Stephen King adaptation one that had critical acclaim and he also wrote the Princess Bride both the book in the movie yeah amongst many of his other works but obviously those are the two that are probably of interest to our readers. I saw myself a lot of similarities between maybe not a lot that might I I saw myself a few similarities between the princess bride movie as well as this movie and maybe I was more apt to look for them them knowing that <hes> bill golden did the screenplay but we had also mentioned when we discussed low many in yellow coats how the the importance of Bobby's kiss really sort of mirrored Wesley and buttercup S- kiss and you know how it was one of the five five greatest kisses of all time and in this movie and in the story <hes> Toboggan says that this is the kiss that you'll measure all others by we saw a similarity there so we had seen the similarity before I saw the movie so I thought that that was interesting. It's an interesting connection because in the content yeah there's a lot of overlap but king wrote that that line in his book and Goldman found a way to shoehorn it into the screenplay yep he wasn't like I need to write a line about important kisses everyone in my screenplays his <hes> but I like the connection nevertheless yeah I also thought there were a couple of other connections to other Stephen King Stories through the actors David Morris who as I mentioned played the adult bobby was also a guard in the Green Mile and he was also had a starring role in <hes> uh the Lingo leers which is a TV mini series adaptation or an episode of a mini series. I think forget David Morris's Mrs in three Stephen King Adaptations that I'm aware of and I called out Celia Weston because she was also in under the Dome many years later after making this movie so got to Multiple Stephen King Adaptation alums in this film yeah <hes> I we'll tell you out of those three Mile Langa leaders and under the Dome I saw what are probably the two worst ones laniers in under the Dome and I've never I've never actually actually seen the green mile all while really yeah. I know it's critically acclaimed. It's got Tom Hanks. It's got David Morse yes Michael Dunkin's ends best work. I think people really liked <hes> his his work in that <hes> and I remember working at a drugstore that did movie rentals and we rented that movie out all the time people loved it and I've never ever seen it and I really enjoyed the you know the book I bought each one of those little green mile books in paperback as they were released one month or however however that went going down to the divall and go into my Walden Books and picking those up <hes> Walden books but I've never seen the green mile well I think it was interesting this phase and <hes> I know we're GonNa talk about the trailer here in a minute Jay but there were a number of Stephen King adaptations I I think probably following the Shawshank redemption and how even though it wasn't a blockbuster in the movie theaters when it got to V._H._S. and D._V._d.. It rented out a lot. <hes> it became a cult movie. It's you know it's on cable all the time. It's always in the top whatever I list of I._M._D._b.. T._V. People love that movie the Shawshank Redemption <hes> it's really well acclaimed and I I got the sense that in this timeframe that people were trying to take exc Stephen King Books and adapting them in that sort of style you know all sort of drawing on the past <hes> in a little bit of sentimentality and almost using them like Oscar Bait right like Shashlik apt pupil has put Shawshank redemption and <hes> for sure then Green Mile and then this movie. I think they're all sort of a piece right looking back at the past and you know it really started probably with stand by me yes but all all these sort of looking back they probably appealed the baby boomers and <hes> just relationships light on the horror late on the supernatural just enough there to to to still have some connection but really focusing on story which is what King is really good at and I think that king has always had that reputation of being the horror Meister as one of the reviewers that we read in a previous episode talked about but I feel like that always precedes him even in the movie adaptations that he's he's not involved in if it says Stephen King anywhere to do with the movie I think a lot of people immediately go to horror. This must be a scary movie and there are so many Stephen King books that have elements of horror that have some really dark things in them but they're generally not Har- and this is certainly one of them. There are some pretty scary moments in the book especially when Bobby encounters the low men directly up that is really frightening stuff for Bobby and he's in some real danger but but a lot of that is not in the movie therefore this just feels like like a cousin to stand by me. You know it has the right age ranges. It has the right time period. It has bullies with Batson <unk> like there. There's a lot there that's in common and it totally works <hes> but I wonder if that assumption of horror horror this assumption of scariness might have always kept the box office numbers low on these adaptations well. I would imagine that the trailer did do any help admit and Mickey the Box Office Success O._J.. Pointed out the trailer to be about a week ago said take a look at this <hes>. It's amazing. How different for trailers are in twenty years? Yeah just it looked like a hallmark movie trailer to me to sort of the the melodramatic music the cursive writing across the screen <hes> just these odd shots that sort of fade in and out it was <hes> Schlocky to say the least and not did not in the horror schlocky sort of in the melodramatic schlocky way yeah and even the sequence of the clips were just. They seemed very haphazard. It was like someone who had not really ever made a trailer before was given this task for the first job in all right quick make trailer use any of the scenes from the movie and you're you're good. We'll just put some music underneath it. Call today and I don't remember how big of a deal Anthony Hopkins was at this point in his career. I I mean it was ten years after it was nominated for sounds lamb so I mean he was a big star. I don't know if he still was a big star at this point but you know he had been nominated for Multiple Academy Awards for <hes> remains of the day as well as <hes> silence of the lambs so he was a known quantity and this is definitely presented ended as a vehicle for his star power but the way the trailer makes him look it just like I don't know like it might have been just the version that I found one but the seemed like even the resolution of the video was low to the point where if I didn't no Anthony Hopkins like I might not realize that this is that guy that impressed me in silence silence of the lambs or that impressed me in Howards end. You know what what who is. This guy is just like an old guy in a movie yeah what will link to the trailer so you experience it herself but <hes> Fun Times so let's let's get into the movie Jay this. We should preface the fact the movie's called hearts in Atlantis but this this is the low men in yellow coats movie. Yes it is ninety five percent of that story <hes> there's a Tad Tad Tad little bit of of why we're in Vietnam you see a newspaper chose that saw John has died on a highway <hes> and there's a little bit of the heavenly shades of night are falling going in that a glove appears in in in the older bobby's house but it is mostly low men in yellow coats which is fine because that's that's probably the story in the book that is the most adaptable for film and I'm sure that they just called it Hartson Atlanta's so that they could reference the Steven King Book because they don't want to say this is we already discussed are low men in yellow coats is not a great name for a story or a book by like or movie yeah definitely definitely after yeah but you can't say like Oh based on the boast based on these short story low men in Yellow Coats for the book arts and Lazett just too much to say so they'd call and they slip been <hes> Goldman slips at hearts in Atlantis light which the way it slipped in even J. where bobby and sully John or having their own conversation at the end of the porch playing monopoly I think maybe or something and then it's just sort of Anthony Hopkins having a one on one scene with Carol Gerber and saying yes I I remember the youth is not just it just comes off as for standing and it's it's like one of those <hes> fake pepperidge Ridge farm commercials from the simpsons but you know overall it is a pretty dead on adaptations of low men in yellow coats with the exception of there's no dark tower piece in it right. There's <hes> yet because the story is told primarily from Bobby's perspective we don't really know who the low men are and why they're chasing him. It's hinted at the end of the towards the end of the movie that there some sort of government agents aunts who want <hes> Ted because of his powers that they're gonNA use him to potentially spy on the communists that at least that's the impression that Ted gives bobby lobby <hes> but we're really not given any more information than that and really that's the big change from the book but the movie hits. It's most of the major beats of the story dead on the relationship between Ted and Bobby is the core of the movie just like it is in the book <hes> the strange relationship that bobby has with his mother and the <hes> blossoming romance between Bobby and care. I mean all those pieces are there. It's it's a really good close adaptation of of the story and overall <hes> I'm going to say I thought the movie worked well. I think the acting performances are are good. <hes> Ebony Hopkins is not who I would have pictured being ted. <hes> I did not picture Ted is being sort of average average height stocky guy with a British accent. That's not the Ted in my mind but no he is really good. I mean at the Newsflash Sean Picks Anthony Hopkins is good actor controversial opinion everybody but I you know they always tell good actors like don't work with with animals or children and but Anton Yeltsin is really good in this as well. I thought I thought he yeah He. He nails <hes> bobby. There is a depth to him that you don't see in other child actors all the time. I think he's able to get that across. It's a short movie. It's only about an hour and a half long and yet I believe leave the relationship that the two of them had it doesn't come across his four store rushed in any way which there's the potential to <hes> I largely agree i. I think that the movie works I think that <hes> and I think the things that it removes from the Book and leaves out of the adaptation some of them. I think the movie suffers four. I'll get into that in a check but I think it makes some other tweaks that I feel kind of land a lot better in the movie than in the Book One of the best examples is when and bobby has his final confrontation with Liz Garfield after Ted has been taken away by the low men and bobby throws the money..
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"Crossover comic book episodes or. Or you have a TV show where two different unrelated shows at a character shows up, you know. And I think that people dig that stuff. And I know I really like it reading this book in this way, putting all of these connected stories together with several overlapping characters in, in a continuity built upon those connections in having it in a single volume. It guarantees in amplifies, those internal connections. So it's kind of an experimentation just in that these stories could for the most part stand on their own. They might be less meaningful in some ways, if you didn't have the context of the other stories, if you didn't know about the others, they could still work. They make sense for the most part. But if they were released a separate books and then you like, oh, look, it's Carol Gerber again. How cool is that she's in this story? And she was another story. I read that's the kind of thing that I'm talking about in. I think that that's fun. And I think that's what helps make this a cohesive successful artistic thing that the king has done. Yeah. Again, not to belabor the point. But I also wonder if part of this is to show that king is a more literary writer that he has that ability to make a larger statement based on short stories that all tied together. It some way that he is a skilled nullius skilled horror writer, but a skill craftsman period that he can, you can link these together. It might even have been his publisher, who's like, hey. Let's go for the literary market. Just throw new fiction on this, so that seems like it's more than just, oh, another novel that you would expect from king, or another book of short stories, which boast of kings books of short stories, run the gamut. Yeah. Like if you pick up skeleton crew, you, again, a lot of that is just because of the way. That those stores were published for men's magazines the in the sixties and seventies like they run the gamut from straight up horror and sleaze and schlock two more poetic type things, but or very hard scifi, etc. And here he is doing something different than just a collection of short stories. It's related stories that worked together in that way that goes beyond just a. Five separate stories but those key connections that are sometimes subtle and sometimes more than just, hey look, I can cross things over, like I have with my terrier Castle Rock stories that there's a deeper, underlying meaning here beyond just these characters. No each other, but they're all talking about something larger in that larger pieces, Vietnam or American, the sixties. Right. And I think that's the other overall theme of this book in. It's something that I touched on a bit earlier when talking about the book reviews at this is about America. It's an exploration of this time of dramatic change in a time of national struggle in sorrow somewhere in there. King uses the line as those years between the murder of John Kennedy in Dallas in the murder of John Lennon, New York City, and that's where he's drawing the lines around this period of time. He's marking this epoch with incredibly tragic deaths that impacted the American psyche in a way that it changed how this country sees itself. And that's what I think king was really working on here. If out these stories by giving us these varied perspectives, these varied characters in these varied times, or years in that era, in it was like, during that time period of between those two murders end the aftermath in how the survivor's guilt that you touched on in one of your reviews. It's not just what happened during that era. But what happened after and how did everybody deal with the after the getting over the moving on? We saw like solely John never really did. He was haunted by the momma son till the day he died. He was. Always stuck in Vietnam in a way, but we kinda get the idea that despite all the hardships that they had Bobby and Carol did. And they did successfully move past the point in their lives. It wasn't doomed for everybody, but it was a pretty tough go for the whole country. As I've said, before, on many occasions, some of my favorite king writing is king writing about his own stuff. His author's note is very short, but he says, two very key things in here that relates back to what you just said, Jay. He goes on about some of the things that he knows are fictional. How he took some authors liberties, as far as the campus geography in Harwich is a fictional place in Bridgeport, Israel. But my version of it is not. And then he says, although it is difficult to believe the sixties are not fictional. They actually happened. For someone like you, and I who were not born in the sixties in obviously have no remembrance. It's we don't need him to say that. But it is interesting that he feels like he has to say that it was a different time. And then Finally, I think this is probably the best place to end our, our piece on hearts in Atlantis is he says he thinks he says, I also wanna thank my wife without her. I never would have gotten over yet. So you do get the sense that much like Bobby, and Carol have a relationship that helps them move on. King had his wife there with him to help him get over. All right. Well, that wraps up, our coverage of hearts in Atlantis and that'll be it for this episode of two guys to the dark tower came. Thanks, jay. Thank you links to all of our contact information is available in the show notes, you can Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom and our Twitter handle is at two guys dark tower. You can also find us on our Facebook page at Facebook dot com slash two guys, Dr tower. Or join our Facebook group at Facebook dot com slash group slash two guys are tower. 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"The. Welcome everyone to two guys to the dark tower. Kane a podcast where we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau. And I'm Shawn Macur. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom in this episode. We'll cover heavenly shades of night are falling in hearts in Atlantis as well as wrap up. Our discussion of the book, let's start the show. Bobby Garfield returns to his hometown for the first time since he and his mother moved away forty years, earlier, silly John's funeral is a nominal reason is there, but as he visits different areas of town, and then encounters Carol Gerber, not the knee Schoonover. We realized that he is reflecting on his relationships with Carol and Ted broad again, the magic of the universe, and memory in history. Nice day, this is the fifth story in Hartson, Atlanta's, although this story is so slight that it's not even really a story as much. It is just sort of epilogue tacked on at the end that ties up the loose ends of the first four stories in particular wraps up. What was introduced in the first story low men in yellow coats? Yes, I kind of think of it like a coda. And really this coda if we want to refer to it is, dad is about maybe leaving behind the past as our characters have moved on from not only what happened to them when they were children. But what has happened to them since they were adults? And in turn the whole idea of what happened to America in the sixties as a result of Vietnam. Yes, bobby's final act of placing the baseball mitt back, under the, the grove of trees. He slightly acknowledging the sort of science fiction element of what he is experiencing here that there's some sort of weird thing going on that he can explain chooses the just let happen. But it's also him relinquishing his past that baseball glove is a bright, shiny reminder of his childhood. And he hasn't had that baseball glove since he was a child. And we know the journey that, that glove has taken all the people who have owned it in traveled all the way to Vietnam and back in and things like that inherit is back in bobby's possession, and the first chance he gets. He sends it away again, this because he doesn't wanna maybe live in the past anymore, or he doesn't want to risk returning to the past in any way. He's he is, as you say, leaving the past behind the. And actually out of all the characters in the book, Carolyn, Bobby of probably moved on from the past a little bit better than the other characters. Carol has created a whole new persona and identity after she is presumed dead. And when Bobby wants to talk to her about what happened. She doesn't want to she's like, no, that's in the past. I don't talk about that anymore, and Bobby, when we last saw him was leading a troubled early adulthood, in and out of juvie and, you know, a strange relationship with his mother. But he find out his gotten married, and has become a carpenter and also dime, and we don't see Bobby dwelling on the events of the past, except when he comes back to town hits all the old haunts and remembers. Oh, yeah. There is the restaurant where I were ten is all the low men or eighty there's the place where I got work, Carol got beat up and there's mild apartment at cetera. Neither one of them talks about what's happened in the ensuing years. And what their lives have been like something just occur. To me in terms of the structure here, because at the end of hearten, Atlantis that story takes place all in the concurrent moments of the college years. And then jumps all the way to the present a where we encounter Pete Riley skip. Kirk as older men skips in the hospital. It's sort of like a retelling of the of win. Stokely Jones is in the hospital, when they were in college or of that moment, we get a KOTA built into that story, the story happens, and then there's the coda moment we see where these men have ended up much later in their lives, and who they became and we get a little bit of a taste of what happened in the years between right? Or why didn't king structure low men in yellow coats that way and have this KOTA between Bobby and Carol? And I think my answer to that, is that king didn't wanna. Giveaway. What happened to Carol great? And it would have been too easy for us to just find out that things turned out, okay for Bobby after all immediately after the events of Ted's of duck Shen than Ted sending him the rose petals rights, like, oh, all right now, bobby's of forty year, he's forty years older and is doing. Okay, it right. I think having the separate having all the way at the end of the book after all the other stories is far more powerful from a storytelling perspective, so sort of answering my question with that. But it's interesting that we had to wait until here for this almost not long enough to be its own story piece, a lot of it is not just we find out bobby's, okay? Or we find out, it's really the relationship between Bobby and Carol that we find out is okay because we have assumed that. Carol his died, and is no longer alive. And that's what Bobby thinks until what happens with sully, John. And specifically the fact that he gets the glove which has a message from Ted in it. And that's when he thinks, oh, Carol might still be around. And if I go back home maybe show, meet me there, it
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"The. Welcome everyone to the dark tower came a podcast where we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn mcgurk. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom in this episode. We'll cover why were in Vietnam in Hartson Atlantis. Let's start the show. Sully John attended the funeral fellow Vietnam veteran, dick Gano, which causes him to reminisce about his time in Vietnam, in particular, he thinks about a helicopter crash in the ensuing firefight that put his units, endanger. And then an incident later in the day when soldiers including Ronnie, Mallon Fant terrorize village before Lieutenant defend Baker also attending to funeral as another soldier shot before the incident escalates to my Lai levels sully John is haunted by Vietnamese woman. That Malan fan bayonets to death seeing her throughout the rest of his life after leaving the funeral. Sully John is stuck in traffic jam, where he hallucinates items falling from the sky, including Bobby Garfield baseball glove in a low man's yellow coat. The ghost of the Vietnamese woman speaks for the first time saying show keep sully. John safe, the hallucination stops and sully. John dies in the driver's seat of his car with Bobby Garfield glove in his lap. But they guy covered everything that happened in this story J. Yeah. That's pretty much the full text. And even reading that you could see that there is a little lot lot of confusing, because there's a lot of flashbacks in the stories not told linearly as we sort of jumped back and forth from solely John going to the funeral back to Vietnam being at the funeral reminiscing about things that happened in Vietnam than hallucinating things that happen. And so there's a lot of time jumps as well as back and forth between what's real and what's not real. In addition, those flashbacks. Yeah. And I kind of Sirte feel like it's still up for debate as to whether or not that was a hallucination because the baseball glove appears and remains, so that part's that part's definitely real. And everybody seems to be undamaged on hurt in alive after the fact. But how did the baseball glove kit there? Yeah. That's a really good question that I'm not sure I know the answer to, and it's not even just the baseball glove that he possibly could have created out of his mouth. Mind, solely John because it's the one that's been changed by blind Willie and has bobby's name, scratched out and rewritten. And it's an it's been aged, it's not the it's not the version that sully John would have remembered he remembers details of the or he sees details. The glove that are how the glove is now as we learned in the last story. So it is more than just a remembrance or something that he dreamed into being it seems like it is the actual real glove. Yeah. From this time period, so. And we'll loop back to that a little bit more when we get to our dark towers Fini's exciting, but we want to start off with the fact that soley, John is still in Vietnam, even though the war's been over for twenty five years, when the story takes place, the epigraph in the first line of the story are when someone dies, you think about the past, and this story starts with sully. John getting ready to attend a funeral. And he's. Thinking about the past is pagawa has died now. He's thinking about everything that happened to him in his last days in Vietnam, and effected its hat him. And when he in defend Baker are talking in the alleyway outside the funeral parlor, they kind of come up with this idea that the war is over until everybody who fought in it is died. So that's why that's why they're still in Vietnam. They, they never left because the war continues for as long as they do, and it's kind of like something you reminded me of the other day, like there's that saying that you don't really die until everybody who knew as forgotten you or has died themselves as long as you are in somebody's memory, you still exist in, in a way in the Vietnam, war, maybe most wars, maybe all wars are kind of, like that, that the soldiers who come back from those wars are haunted, by the war in, they can never really escape it. You're never not in Vietnam. Tom for the rest of their lives to the point where one of them suggests, maybe everything after that helicopter ride out of, of the was, it has been a hallucination like bridges dreaming this. We're in a recovery ward somewhere at hospital. Getting patched up and everything the last you know, decades have been just a, a drug induced dream. Yes. Another thing that continues in this story, or that is a continuation from previous sections of arts in Atlantis is the us versus them motif, here, we get it in the form of veterans and non veterans, and it used to be like, during the story of hearts in Atlanta's a lot of it was the people who were for the war versus the people who protested the war now
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"The. Welcome everyone to two guys to the duct our podcast. We discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus, the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn McCoy. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at g mail dot com. In this episode. We'll cover blind Willie found in Hartson Atlantis. Let's start the show. It's nineteen Eighty-three and Vietnam veteran Bill Sherman appears to live a comfortable life in suburban Connecticut. But as we observe him through his day, he actually appears to lead a double, and even triple life. Begging on midtown Manhattan street corner as he pretends to be blind. The reason for this seems to be his form of penance for his involvement in a beating of a young girl. Carol Gerber whose life. He has followed by keeping news clippings of her protests of the war that have become more and more radical and seem to have led to her death. The story ends as it begins with Bill in bed with his wife, who seems to know how he makes money, not my best recap of stories, Jay. But I think it hits some of the major points, there's actually a lot more happening in the story than what I said. But at the same time, there's really not a lot that happens in the story. It's just one day and Bill sherman's life. And we see what's going on. But even the little bit of conflict that is introduced Bill is worried that he's going to be found out by the policemen that he plays a bribe to so that he can stay on the street corner in that conflict is not resolved. It's just sort of a thought in bills head towards the end of the story like oh, yeah. I think I might have an idea. On how to deal with it, but it's not fully spelled out, but really sort of a day in the life of this guy. Yeah. I think that was actually a great recap considering what the, the story was all about. I could easily see that on a dust cover, or the back of a DVD box. So don't sell yourself, so short while not sure this is as good of a story to be made into a movie anytime anytime soon, Jay somebody decided to make maximum overdrive. I can't believe that they wouldn't adapt. This, of course, the person who made that decision was Stephen King us high cocaine at the time. So. I'm certain whatever studio executive green lit. It was also high cocaine at the time. In fact, they might have had the same dealer. Well, unlike the other stories in this book, this one had been previously published. Yeah. It was published in Antonius, an import literary journal, which never reached more than about ten thousand readers or subscribers. But in its approximately twenty five years, that it ran it published a wide variety of authors and poets fact, it was founded by Paul Bowles who is a famous writer, his own. Right. He gave sort of the seed money to get this up and running, and blind Willie was actually published in the final issue of this journal, which was in nineteen ninety four so king Kildee tasks. I think it was the other way around that they knew that the journal was coming to an end. In fact, the editor said something along the lines of I want to get out before I get too old to blind, too tired lose my hair. So I'm going to get out at this point and stopped publishing it. And in that last. Issue. He really gathered up a lot of well known authors for the final issue. In addition to king, two of my favorite authors of all time, Paul Austin, Don delillo, actually might like them better than king. If you can believe that for a different type of writing. But to my favorite writers, Margaret, Atwood appeared in the last issue, Richard Ford. Nadine Gordimer Joyce, Carol Oates. Jane smiley Tobias Wolff those are some of the names that I recognized just by going through the table content. So they did gather up some pretty big names for that final issue including king, and king's entry was blind Willie. However, and j you might be interested in this. And hopefully our listeners are too. It is quite different from the story that is in Hartson Atlantis. Yeah. When I was reading blind Willie for this podcast. I knew that it had been published before. It appeared in Hartson Atlantis. But I didn't know what the, the text was in that original publication. So I started asking myself along the way. How many details did king change to adapt, this for hearts in Atlantis was very little. Did he have this idea of the Carol Gerber figure in blind? Willie's life was she the reason for his penance end acts of contrition, those kinds of things were kind of top of mind for me. And when you shared some of the details of the original version of blind Willie, it became quickly apparent that none of the hearts in Atlantis stuff is in it, basically. Right. And therefore, king added all of that stuff in just so that it would better integrate within the larger group of stories. And I think it's to our benefit end to the stories benefit. I think giving Willie a more concrete reason to do some of the things he does act, the way that he does or the choices he makes his life beyond the attaching those things to Carol attaching those things to his. His time in Vietnam. In a very specific way and connecting it to some of the other people in who he met in Vietnam, including silly, John. I think it makes Willie a more meaningful character
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"The. Welcome everyone to two guys to the dark tower Kane a podcast or we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn mcgirt. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom in this episode. We will finish the title story from hearts in Atlantis parts. Twenty three through forty four. Let's start the show. Loses virginity to Carol Gerber, and then she leaves college or thanksgiving break. Pete decides to get on track with the schoolwork. But once he gets back to school. It's back to hearts for him antiwar anti LBJ graffiti appears on the side of a dorm. And the obvious suspect is Stokely Jones, but despite most of the dorm, laughing at his misfortune when Stokely slips and falls into a puddle of water, they have a Spartacus moment and stick up form skipping. Pete us the opportunity to quit hearts and stay in school. The story ends with an older Pete visiting skip in the hospital and reminiscing. When you say it like that, it seems a little dry Jay, but it was an interesting story, and I enjoyed it and I was turning pages throughout. But ultimately, this isn't like low men in yellow coats where there was a build up to a very tense and dramatic moment when the, the low men confront and take Ted away, another dramatic moment when the boys are picky, on Caroline, and Bobby needs to save her here. We just sort of get an everyday regular story that AMAN is reminiscent, gone really small moments in his life, losing virginity playing cards with his buddies at school sticking up for somebody it becomes a full story. And he kinda yada, yada over some of the more important things later in his life when he like when he took his, his protesting even further when he got arrested in beaten up and things like that, he just glosses over that part. Because it's not central to this story, but to your point, unlike lamenting yellow coats, that built up to this great crescendo. This is more like the main character walking to the edge of the cliff kind of hanging out there for a minute. And then just deciding the walk away from the edge of the cliff, again the cliffs there, but he was able to just move away from it. And he did and not, not quite the same stakes. No. And you your point I mean, he walks away from the cliff and deady, basically walks over to a riot over there, that was on the other side of that he was that he was standing on. And you know gets beaten by the cops and gets thrown in jail and. His best friend, who he played cards with in college becomes a famous artist. And, you know, sort of world renowned then has a heart attack. But all that is secondary and off page and the key moment. With him reuniting with skip is just them at the end saying, you know, much like the ending of low men in yellow coats, where Bobby in his mother sort of say, hey, we tried retried. It's just the two of them saying the same sort of thing like we did the best. We could on. It's just you know, male bonding piece at the end. But again, not these big dramatic moments that you might think of normally and again, king does that stuff. Well, one of one of the best loved movies of Stephen king's at adaptations is stand by me. And you know, there's not much in that movie. That is dramatic. Right. There's, there's a train sing seen when the running across the trestle. But what would you think of that movie? And remember it, it's to sort of. The boys hanging out and being together. I guess getting leeches on their body. But yeah, that does have that does have a lot in common with this. In, in terms of the central character of the story is also the author writing about the story as reminiscence, and stand by me is constructed the same way. So we start with the adult author in his studied, working have the flashback of the movie and end back with the adult author again, the great, Richard Dreyfuss. Yes. But here we know that Pete Riley isn't going to go to Vietnam die because he is alive. Thirty three years later writing the story. Right. We at least know that much that's built into the structure. So there's no suspense there. But we don't know if he's going to fell out of school. We don't know what's gonna happen to all of his friends. We don't know that he's not going to end up in Vietnam. Right. And we and we definitely didn't know that it was going to. Throw himself fully into protesting the Vietnam, war and get into all sorts of crazy things from getting beaten up by the cops cetera. The happened after
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"Volcano. Not lightning symbol. Just keeps coming back throughout the movie. It's great. If you haven't seen that movie it isn't unsung masterpiece. It does not get the credit deserves a third movie in the Tom Hanks wa that's right. When Bobby realizes that Ted is going away. And they're having the discussion about it, eventually Ted's like let's not dwell on the sadness. Let's move on and talk about something else. And bobby's like, what are we gonna talk about? And Ted says books. Of course, we'll talk about books and I think that, that's just sort of pulling through that the of literature that we've talked about in the previous couple of that, besides there's a lot of book stuff here. More of it on of mice and men and I that's one of the four books that Ted leaves behind for Bobby, how many specifically gives him instructions of read of mice and men. I and think about guys like us in. What does that mean getting back to that us versus them piece that we talked about before? Yeah, Bobby Ted or our guys like us, they're the Lenin Lenin squeaky. The lead squidgy of of Mexican men. Love learning how to Vernon surely one Georgian Lenny. Its course it's George tosa. But the Reverend stewards those about the Ravitz it wasn't until I was in, like ninth grade that I realized that's what that's what those Bugs Bunny commercials were Bugs Bunny stuff was about. It's amazing how much culture, I learned for Bugs Bunny and didn't know it at the time. Oh, yeah. Another great piece of imagery, is when we read about the warehouses, and how they loomed, like giant faces from which most of the features had been erased kind of. It's so nice. It's so nice. Just think of them, as like kind of blank faces for guy grew up in like middle of nowhere main kings done a good job in the lines that you've pointed out of capturing some city imagery apartment buildings to warehouses, the streetlights in their, their fact on people. So we talked a little bit before about how the car seems alive to Bobby. And in fact, it probably is, and the seems like a direct reference to from Buick eight and I'm not sure if we consider from a Buick eight exactly dark tower Jason, I know when I read it which was before I read any of the dark tower books. I considered it more of a cocoon with those type things is there's sort of the beyond the realm of man. This car is somehow attached to it is my least favourite Steven king book of all time. It's just not a good book and it's not great. I might need to give it another chance just to see if it's tied. Into the dark tower. But if there's somebody out there who can say, no, it's not cover lated. All I'd really appreciate that because I did not enjoy that read it. All I read it one time. And didn't enjoy it either. And I don't really remember how or if it connects. But I think it makes sense if you think of the that Buick as one of the low men's cars that somehow got abandoned. Yeah. In like normal world and because it's that car and it just has all these strange properties, but without a low man to drive it, it, it, it still has some of its inherent power, but not all of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not, not, not my favorite at all. So one more great line for me. Bobby looked up at the stars stacked, billions, a spilled bridge of light stars and more stars beyond them spinning in the black. I plan to memorize that line. The next time I'm off away from the lights of the city, and I can see the stars. Can make sure I say that out loud. It's still wonderful description of the night sky will get that's a wonderful line to end ended on, and we will finish our discussion of low men in yellow coats there, and that will be all for this episode of two guys to the dark tower came. Thanks, jay. Thank you links to all of our contacted formations available in the show notes you can Email us at two guys. Dr tower at gmaiLcom. Our Twitter handle is at two guys, Dr tower you can also find us on our Facebook page at Facebook dot com slash two guys, Dr tower. Or join our Facebook group at Facebook dot com slash groups slash two guys, Dr tower if you like the show, please rate us on itunes next episode. Join us as we start the title story of hearts in Atlantis covering parts one through twenty two for j Russo. I'm Sean, thanks. Love. Larry. How?
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"Living in the United States. Good times. Right. As kind of represented by a still relatively innocent eleven year old boy. Yes, exactly. So he is innocent as the country appears to be at that moment. Yes. Well on that bright and optimistic note it's time for fun stuff J. All right. Fun stuff. I'm gonna start off with Ted having a very progressive view for the times that people with mental illness aren't funny to be made fun of, maybe that's because of his relationship with shimmy, and other people in our. Agassi antle. But I don't think that it's the fifties people are quite as in lightened, as Ted is at the moment. I think that even today as lightened as Ted but you make a fine point. I really love how MRs o'hara's dog the next door neighbor, who's dog never stops. Barking was always barking as if denying all. Uman. Esperer. I love that. It's just like the bark is a bark, but it's also like no, no, no, no, no. I was also kind of taken aback that. King really seems to have a problem with creamy white sauces like he makes comments in book, two of the dark tower Roland hates, mayonnaise, because it looks like Jisr king through the characters here in the story is crapping all over Tutsi key sauce on a euro. So like. Menes Tutsi key sauce are delicious. Sauces. They make the sandwich even better, but. King kings will been problem there. Although to be fair, he, he does say that Bobby thinks that the euro is the best sandwich that he has ever eaten. So it's not all bad. Yes. Yeah. Once he tastes it, then he's like, now I understand opening up bobby's is to Greek food. Yeah. Those Greeks were onto something besides Euripides in fate. Now he might be anti creamy white sauces, but he does have Ted Mika casserole with horseradish sauce and horseradish. Sauces often white. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, that horseradish sauce leads to a farting seen worthy of blazing saddles. As ted. And Bobby try to one up each other. We get a little bit of levity there, fun note Jade, the day, we're recording. This is the forty fifth anniversary of the release of blazing saddles in theater. So I thought that thought that that was appropriate. Very special day. I to Mark my calendar. I'm not saying are cast know movies odds. Louis is awesome. We see in the section the first lost pet poster. It's for a dog that goes by the name of Phil and the, the dog's name isn't important, but dogs breed is a Welsh corgi tonight thought I see what you're doing there. Enough king corgis as a working mother, Liz, Garfield pride get to watch soap operas that often and she is very dismissive of them. Calling them John O Martha shows, which I just thought. Oh, John, Omar. When bobby's in the pool hall Alon offers one of the free keychains that's there. And bobby's, not sure if you should take it or not, because if he gets caught Liz is gonna wonder where he got it, and it's gonna cause problems. And as he's considering it one way or the other, she says, don't turn down for free in this world. Kid there much of it going around. And my brother has the same sentiment except he, he is condensed it his his favorite line is free stuff is good stuff. Can't go wrong. They're on their way back from the pool hall. They're taking a taxi and the cab drivers listening to a Yankees game when Bobby Ted wake up from their blocking of the low men from their days. The cabdriver says God damn engines, they route them when they ask if the ANC is one or not. And all I, I was interested because I'm an Indians. I grew up Cleveland Indians fan. But the word root there is interesting, isn't it? It's share is. It's not often when you're talking about a baseball game that you say, one team ruined the other, or root them that, that part was interesting. But then also the fact that it's the Indians of all the American League teams who are playing the eighties immediately sort of conjures up Cowboys and Indians in wild west enroll in maybe there. So I think even in that simple five word line, there's a lot on pack their king king fit a lot into their even. A little bit of casual races. Sure. One thing that I thought was pretty cool was in bobby's dream, Harry Doolan is carrying a baseball bat that he has sharpened at both ends. And this is a direct callback to the monogram at the beginning of the story where king says nineteen sixty they had a stick sharpened at both ends. That seems like more of a general or generic description of the sixties where things kind of took a turn. It's exactly what we see here in. And then I dislike king, pulling back to the library card that got introduced earlier in Bobby reflects that he realized he was growing into his orange library card so already he can feel within himself, how he's becoming adult and then about a dozen pages later. He says having an adult library card was very neat. But somehow, not as neat as it had seemed at first, and so they're still that pushback of, I'm not quite ready to be an adult yet, it's not all cracked up to be ice kinda saw that as, as he's learning more about life in the world in becoming a bit more of an adult himself. He's realizing that. The library card all by itself, isn't as big a deal as he thought it was not whereas what you said, like he's just like he's not ready to be an adult in there for he's he wants is not as excited to have the library card because that means he needs to be adult. I think both of those perspectives are true in invalid. But the I hadn't thought about that way. In the context, that I was thinking of, was it shortly after Bobby realizes the Ted's leaving. And that's where I think he feels like like this is what happens like it's not just carefree nece is being kid like now that there's more things that are happening, but I could see how both of those are valid readings there. So. All right. Well, we wanted to read a review that we recently got Jay. This is from Wes fuzzy Sani in the UK. And he said, the man in black fled across the desert, and Jay Sean followed. I listen to several dark tower, Stephen King podcasts. And this is without a doubt my favorite favorite with a you, by the way. So we know that this is really English person. It's legit. It's legit. Brit. The structure of the episode is excellent with a recap of the particular chapters. They read followed by fun stuff where the guys make ob- survey ships regarding the chapter, the things that tickled them. That's what we just did Jay. I said, tickled the chemistry between the two host. Jay, Sean, is very apparent and comes across clearly as you listen. If you have read or considering reading the dark tower series, or just fan of all things side, king, Stephen King for those of you have read read the series you need to listen to this podcast. It's that simple day, and Sean, you guys have created amazing podcasts. Keep up the good work. And thank you for entertaining me as much as you have great job guys. Will. Thank you very much west. We appreciate that s thank you. I appreciate that quite a great deal. And hopefully now that we're finished with the dark tower proper books in our continuing on into the adjacent books that you are still enjoying it. I also wanted to point out just real quick. Another great Email from ROY Dallas on the little sister, the Loria he didn't quite love the story as much as we did. But he had a lot of valid points on what he did and did not like about it again. Thanks for the emails, ROY. We appreciate hearing those different perspective. Absolately keeping coming. All right. Well, I think that is going to lead us to the end of this episode of two guys to the dark tower came. Thanks, jay. Thank you links to all of our contact information is available in the show notes, you can Email us at two guys. Dr tower at gmaiLcom and our Twitter handle is at two guys dark tower. You can also find us on our Facebook page at Facebook dot com slash two guys, Dr tower. Or join our Facebook group at Facebook dot com slash groups slash two. Guys, Dr tower if you like the show, please write us on, I tunes. And if you could tell a friend about us we'd love to, to, to
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"Is over this episode of two guys, the Dr tower came. Thanks, jay. Thank you, winks, all of our contact information available in the show notes, you can Email us at two guys, Dr tower edgy dot com. And our Twitter handle is at two guys dark tower. You can also find us on our Facebook page at Facebook dot com slash two. Guys dark tower or our Facebook group at Facebook dot com slash groups slash two guys dark tower. If you like the show, please rate us on, I tunes next episode. Join us as we start, our coverage of the dark tower adjacent book hearts in Atlantis by discussing the first story low men in yellow coats hearts, one through four, so they were going to do the entire book, even though not all of the stories are dark tower. Jason, there's enough there that I think it's gonna be interesting in fun read the first story low men in yellow coats. Direc-. Adjacent to Dr cower. Yep. It's the reason why we're covering this book. It is a long story, even longer than low sisters Laurie. So we've broken it up a little bit. So when you come back should've read parts, one through four, so you can join us in our discussion, and we will not be spoiling anything beyond parks, went through four. So if you're not if you can't read it all by that. For j Russo. I'm Sean Macur. Thanks for listening. He stole my boy.
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"The. Every one to two guys to the dark tower king podcast, where we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn mcgurk. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys, the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at g mail dot com. In this episode. We'll be reading responding to listeners comments. Let's start the show. Jay, one of the joys of doing this podcast is getting to meet listeners from literally all around the world who have written into us by Email respond to Twitter left messages on Facebook left reviews on itunes, and it's great hearing from folks. And we thought that this would be good opportunity to share some of those with the rest of our listeners. And as we smoothly transitioned from the series, as a whole into some of the Ansari materials that we will be reading while we white not be able to get to everyone's emails and comments that were sent in because there were so many of them, we are going to pull out some of our favorites. And Sean, just to piggyback on that. It might sound flip into say we do it for the listeners but without listeners, we don't really have a podcast. We just have a conversation between Sean and meet, and who. Wants that. And we could just we could just do that without all the extra effort of making a podcast. So it really does mean a lot to hear from you, and we love everything that you've contributed requests for us to do things differently such as pronunciations or. Mike technique all the feedback. It's been great. Well as both Bain and President Trump said said, we do it for you. The people what was that saying accent, just like snuck out. So Sean, one of the first emails that I wanted to bring up in our discussion is one from Sarah Elms and Sarah reminded us in her Email that she's been a Stephen King fan for a long time in that. She's read a good number of his books short stories, too discovered the dark tower kind of late in her. Stephen King fandom, once she started reading the dark tower she was hooked. And she has now read or listened to the entire series of books, at least eight times while and she says that she finds that the story stays with her the way few others. Do she also goes on to praise our podcast a bit, or she says the podcast has been a wonderful way to revisit the story through fresh eyes and ears? This is the first doctor podcast that I've continued to listen to all the way through, you guys are thoughtful in critical. Don't take yourself, too. Seriously? You're quick to point out where you think Stephen King got it wrong and do so with great insight. I appreciate the care. And hard work. It has taken to continue making a podcast. I look forward to your continued thought and care for the dark tower. Adjacent novels and short stories, long, days and pleasant nights. Sarah. Well, thank you very much. Sarah, one of the things that interested me, Jay reading this Email, was the fact that she's ready to listen to the series at least eight times. Yeah. And we've talked before about how readers have come to this over and over again. And we were actually recently tagged in a Twitter discussion about somebody who's going through the series yet for another time. And I saw Twitter, also somebody who is actually spending their day today, going through all three extended Lord of the rings movies because that's something that they do on an annual basis. And in the Twitter discussion where we were specifically tagged. Somebody had mentioned that they read it fifteen times, which. Boggles boggles, the mind. That's a, that's a lot of rituals of should. Yes, it is. And what was interesting was that, that person said that they've gotten something out of it each and every time that read it something that they didn't see before at cetera. I appreciate that. Sara said that hearing our podcast has been away to revisit the story through fresh eyes and ears. And I do think there's something to be gained for that. And I used to be that way, a lot when I was younger, and as I've gotten older, and realized that my reading time, both actual time that I have in my life to read is finite as well, as how much lifetime I have left is finite and idea to make the best use of my time. I found myself, not revisiting books, and stories and movies over and over again. Like I used to it'll occasionally happen, but they're still a half a dozen to a dozen Stephen King books that have been written that I haven't gotten too, so I don't find myself going back rereading ones that were favorites like I used to. And I wonder as somebody who has read, I think you said the first. Three books of the series, at least three or four times. What your thoughts are