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Biden's Open Borders Brought 70,000 Immigrants in Two Weeks
Classroom Posters at Hamilton High School Spark Controversy; LA Unified School District Issues Response
"School a high school in california where they have posters. This is the alexandra. Hamilton high school in los angeles unified school. So all william unified school district where they have posters which say want jennifer. Oh my gosh sabbath. This high school part of the la unified school district. Hamilton high has all kinds of terrible posters. Got the american flag lying on the ground. Let me read you the list of what they have. Because i don't want get this wrong. They have a palestine flag. They have a transgender flag. A pride flag. A black lives matter flag all hung prominently from the blackboard. According to some photos that were taken undercover a few parents rights groups. Got a hold of this. And they blew the whistle on this high school. The american flag while all of those other flags are hanging up in a nice prime location flung across furniture in the classroom now after they found out about this because it started to get some attention and traction on twitter with some parents groups who were thankfully appalled and this is part of the pushback in california even at the smallest level. It's coming for more parents. Getting involved with their kids classroom. Some parents groups called out l. unified. And you would think that they would say oh. We had no idea this was going on. We would remedy this situation sam. La unified school district. They knew about it and they said that they would make sure that the posters would be taken down now. Here's the problem. You've you've left out two of the posters. Oh go ahead. Sorry the police. Oh after police unleaded. Forget the america with kkk. Instead of the sea on the wall of the classrooms then on the wall of the classroom. And here's the thing and you're right. I should have said that. I because as almost more disturbing than what. They're hanging up everywhere. But here's the problem. It's not the posters. It's not the flags. It's the fact that this is who's teaching our kids. Forget about what they hang on the wall that can come up. It can come down and they can take it down now. Put a back up in two weeks. But what in the heck are they teaching our children and this is the problem with the la unified school district. And i'm gonna guess most school districts around the country that have allowed themselves to become infiltrated by the unions. The unions are now operatives for the socialist movement in this country. They are incredibly powerful in the political sphere members. Pay into this i. I've heard people on my program. And i'm going to employ people across the country if you are a teacher or if you are a person who works for a union take advantage of your rights and get out of the union if they are using the money to support political causes better not important to
HHS Whistleblower Jodi O'Malley Describes Losing Colleague Who Took Vaccine
"There was another part of the video. That i want you to talk about where i i might not be remembering this correctly. Jody but you said that one of your here's wanted to get a religious exemption for the vaccine but she didn't. Can you talk about that. That part of the video. Well yes so and works alongside each other in the intensive care unit which was pretty much. Kobe unit the entire pandemic. The vaccine was offered to us federal employees back in decem throughout this entire time. She did not want today. Jeans natives and and it goes against her native belise In order to take the vaccine she just come back from leave and the her in along with two other employees. Were co worse to take it. It was common tainted tankage and when they realized they were taking like yay good job. Yes yes yes you know. And then two weeks later she comes in with a positive coleman and four days later she's in today. You know. I mean we've we've been saying this way too much. I know so many medical people that are seeing these cases can identify with at first it was like oh you got two weeks after. I guess you you waited too long to get it. But there's just way too many people coming in with a positive holding resolve and suffering greatly. Because i hope she survived. His intimation is a serious. She did not she has to later so she as a fully vaccinated nurse passed away. Two is not what they deem fully vaccinated. She received her back seen two weeks later. She's in hostile when she was due for our second one came down with her body. Just like crazy and slaying. Beware and no. She did not make
Charlie Chats with HHS Whistleblower Jodi O'Malley and James O'Keefe of Project Veritas
"Us is a good friend of mine. Who continues to outdo himself. Project veritas. james. O'keefe james welcome back to the charlie kirk show and you. You've someone very special with you today. As right joey. Federal employees was law services as we saw yesterday mona. It's a homeless watch the controversial history and it shows people in their own words. Jody came to us as a insider and proceeded to record conversations with your colleagues the let you say what you suppose. Well this is. These types of stories have been going on for a long time and i think people have gotten complacent about it and just think that it's just what is the world we live in today if you will and i reached out to project baron ties back in july and wanted to tell them everything i know but i didn't really have a clear example. It was just like all the but then after this happened to my co worker and she refused mactan treatment that she had wanted two weeks after taking the back seen as when i started recording so i wanna talk about that but i just want to remind our listeners because they might not have listened to our sister episode encourage them to. I did a whole hour on really what was revealed and so for me personally. Some of the most dramatic footage that you were able to capture was dr maria gonzalez. Who's an er doctor from the us department of health and human services says all of this is be us now. A patient probably has mara kyd is due to the vaccine but now the government are not gonna want to are not going to blame the
Biden bets on rapid COVID tests but they can be hard to find
"One of president Biden's plans for helping curb the virus Origi is proving hard to implement fewer than two weeks ago the president announced plans for retailers like Walmart and Amazon to stock more virus tests that can easily be administered at home each of these outlets will start to sell at home rapid test kits at cost for the next three months the tests have already disappeared from shelves in many parts of the country and manufacturers warranty it'll take weeks to ramp up production which had been scaled back over the summer the big commercial labs that process most test performed at hospitals and test sites still say they have plenty of capacity Sager mag ani Washington
Governor Ducey, 25 Fellow Governors Request Border Meeting With Biden
"I'm glad i'm not you. Because i honestly do not know what i would do with this number. I've read the letter that the are sent the president you signed. I have read the press releases. The numbers are astonishing. Would you review the letter that you sent the president biden. What you're asking for and why you were asking for it. Well this is beyond the border crisis. And of course people know arizona and taxes are border states but twenty six governors from across the country of signed on to this. Because it's really beyond just the border crisis. It's a catastrophe. And it's things like including a national security crisis because we don't know who's coming across our southern border. It's a public safety crisis. Because all of our states are experiencing a rise in crime and drugs. it's a it's a humanitarian crisis. You can see that just from the pictures and then of course we're told we have this public health crisis yet. When inconvenient at the border they bite administration avert its gaze from. What's actually happening there. And there's not testing or vaccination so governors together all republicans have stepped up and said to isn't biden that you need to act on this. It's the responsibility of the federal government. And we've requested a meeting with him within the next two weeks. We wanted to go to washington. Dc and bring back the policies of the previous administration that we're actually working at the border.
No, Democrats and Republicans Are Not Headed for a US Debt Limit Showdown
"Wanted to get to the key issue of the day. Mitch mcconnell has said to thanos chuck schumer. You might wanna showdown. We're not having a showdown but every single paper from legacy media like the new york times. Democrats pair spending bills with raising debt. Ceiling pressuring gop washington post democrats unveil new plan to fund government suspended ceiling as major showdown with. Gop looms. there is no showdown byron. Am i correct. Correct on the on the basic issue of raising the debt ceiling Historically that's been something the majority party has to do as the debt cliff approaches. There's a lot of wining and talking and in the end that's what the majority party has to do. And i believe You know you could raise the debt ceiling in a one. Page bill Democrats have what they call a majority fifty votes in the senate plus vice president And they can pass it. And so that's something like that is going to happen unless they make some sort of deal that mcconnell finds attractive brilliant thing about that is a debt ceiling. Bill requires sixty votes unless you attach to reconciliation in which case it only requires fifty. They have reconciliation coming to conference. They can agree to do that and they can get it done in two weeks. There need not be any crisis. Mitch is making them do their reconciliation bargaining among themselves now by refusing to go the wimpy route for a hamburger. Today i will gladly by tuesday there. He's just saying no. You bought it. You broke it. You bought it. It's yours and the media is outrage because they wanna postpone the showdown between chuck schumer. Nancy pelosi and amc in the hopes that something works out and chuck wants to postpone it as long as possible because he didn't want her to run against him in the democratic primary mitch mcconnell's under no obligation to help them out of a political
Stocks Drop the Most Since May on Worries Over China, Fed
"Hi Mike Rossi a reporting stocks dropped the most since may on worries over China and the fed worries about a potential collapse by Evergrande one of China's largest real estate developers and the potential ripple effects across markets sent stocks tumbling on Wall Street Monday the markets are also worried the federal reserve may pull back its support for the economy the S. and P. five hundred suffered its biggest drop in four months falling over seventy five points or one point seven percent to four thousand three fifty seven seventy three after two weeks of losses the S. and P. five hundred is on track for its first monthly decline since January the Dow Jones industrial average briefly dial nine hundred seventy one point fell six fourteen to thirty three thousand nine seventy the nasdaq fell three hundred thirty points or two point two percent losses mirrored drops in overseas markets hi Mike Rossio
Biden Easing Foreign Travel Restrictions, Requiring Vaccines
"President Biden will start easing restrictions on foreign travel into the U. S. starting in November the administration will require all foreign nationals flying into the country to be fully vaccinated against covert nineteen they'll have to show proof before boarding along with the negative results from a test taken within three days of a flight the new policy replaces a patchwork of restrictions that restricted travel by non citizens who'd been in several countries in the past two weeks including the UK European Union members China and India the president's also tightening rules were unvaccinated American citizens will have to be tested before and after returning to the U. S. Sager mag ani Washington
The FDA Dithers Over Approving Booster Vaccine
"The fda has got the ability to approve fighters booster in. Israel have approved this booster. Israel has been ahead of us on the science at every step of the way except for the invention of the vaccine. Which did i follow. Closely by. Madeira and johnson and johnson israel. Roll that out. Israel got immune i. Israel says we're doing butchers and everyone gets one why because it will stop the fourth way to completely intuitive the risks are minimal. they're not non existent occasional case. I mean very rare cases of young men getting inflamed heart condition very rare. Very very rare. That happens anyway and and everyone should get the vaccine. I've told you that many times. It's a no brainer. A no brainer. A no brainer. But unless you've got an underlying medical condition that says don't get immunity but you. I don't believe in the government max a vaccine mandating vaccines because we are free. People and people get to make choices in this country. One of the choices ought to be to get a booster. And i'm going to get rich and his. I'm six months out. Which is this week from my vaccine. Why because i don't want to get this. And he i don't wanna break out i don't i have seen. I have too many people on the spectrum from a cold former national security adviser. Robert o'brien to their dad dad and people in between all those died in didn't and people who stayed home for a week or two weeks or three weeks and felt horrible and long cohen. It's not worth it. I don't want to have to use ivermectin although i believe. There is some independent verification of its effectiveness. I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna get it. I want to be here talking to you every morning. And i want people to be smart. If you're driving to work listen to me. This is not even a close call. The way the potential downsides against the potential risk. That's life it's not a close call. Go get vaccinated. Go get a booster. Should you can get a
Israeli Army Arrests Last 2 of 6 Palestinian Prison Escapees
"Israeli forces on sunday arrested the last two of six palestinian prisoners who escaped a maximum security israeli prison two weeks ago closing an intense embarrassing episode that exposed deep security flaws in israel and turn the fugitives into palestinian
Alaska Military Base Declares Health Emergency
"Places that don't require masks or social distancing for the next 30 days, while the state's epidemiologist says the state is experiencing one of the sharpest surges of Covid 19 in the country in Alaska military leaders on joint base Elmendorf Richardson have declared a public health emergency, while the state's largest hospital Providence, Alaska Medical Center, is rationing care. After being overwhelmed by a surge in Covid 19 patients, the hospital has been forced to turn away patients from smaller cities. Their emergency room is over. Er flowing and people are having to wait in their cars and a parking lot for hours waiting to see a doctor. The State Health Department reports more than 1200 newly confirmed cases per 100,000 people over the past two weeks 20% of patients hospitalized in Alaska have covid 19. I'm Jennifer King. President Biden's two major
Alaska Military Base Declares Health Emergency
"Military service members in Alaska are being asked to avoid places that don't require masks or social distancing for the next thirty days well the state's epidemiologist says Alaska is experiencing one of the sharpest surges of cove in nineteen in the country in Alaska military leaders on joint base Elmendorf Richardson had declared a public health emergency while the state's largest hospital Providence Alaska Medical Center is rationing care after being overwhelmed by surgical bid nineteen patients the hospital has been forced to turn away patients from smaller cities there are merchants the room was overflowing and people are having to wait in their cars in a parking lot for hours waiting to see a doctor the state health department reports more than twelve hundred newly confirmed cases per one hundred thousand people over the past two weeks twenty percent of patients hospitalized Alaska have coded nineteen I'm Jennifer king
Use of OxyContin Profits to Fight Opioids Formally Approved
"The judge has formally approved a plan to turn oxycontin maker Purdue pharma into a new company no longer owned by members of the Sackler family and with his profits going to fight the opioid epidemic bankruptcy judge Robert drain officially has confirmed the reorganization more than two weeks after he announced he would do so pending to launching technical changes however several states among all the parties have already appealed the decision the deal resolves some three thousand lawsuits filed by state and local governments native American tribes unions hospitals and others who claimed the company's marketing of prescription opioids help Spock and continue overdose epidemic linked to more than five hundred thousand deaths in the U. S. in the last two decades I'm Charles there that's my
US Court Halts Use of Health Order to Expel Migrant Families
"The U. S. government's been ordered to stop using a public health measure to quickly expel migrants with children at the southern border with Mexico title forty two was invoked early the pandemic by the trump administration presumably to help reduce the spread of coded nineteen in detention facilities by turning back migrants without giving them a chance to remain in the U. S. by seeking asylum the Biden administration allowed it to remain but now a federal judge Emmet Sullivan has given the government two weeks to end the practice the American civil liberties union filed suit on behalf of migrant families and reacted to the judge's ruling saying president biting should've ended this cruel and long list policy long ago Jackie Quinn Washington
DeBlasio: Vaccination Required for World Leaders at U.N. Meeting
"When world leaders gather in New York for next week's U. N. General Assembly the city's covert nineteen vaccination requirements will apply to them bill de Blasio says he knows the U. N. has its own rules but he told secretary general Antonio Guterres two weeks ago the city requirements stance I expressed to him how important it was to have continuity with what we're doing in the city while the Blasi says Guterres has been cooperative Russia's ambassador has not and that's fine in the Russian ambassador is against it I'm for it among other things rushes objecting to a city rule that only W. H. O. approved vaccines will be accepted Russia's Sputnik vaccine is not is there a vaccine isn't good enough then they should go and use one of the other vaccines soccer mentality at the White House
Outbreaks Strand Some Students at Home With Minimal Learning
"As corona virus outbreaks around the country lead schools to close temporarily or send children into quarantine some students are being stranded with minimal instruction some educators and parents interviewed by the Associated Press say that their school systems pushed ahead with the return to in person instruction without any clear back up plan and the policies aimed at keeping students in classrooms are contributing to the difficulties seven year old Ben meddling in Union County North Carolina was sent home to quarantine for two weeks on some days his parents say the second grader finished his school work by nine thirty AM on other days the teachers aside no work at all the U. S. education department says that states and school districts should have policies to ensure continued access to high quality and rigorous online learning as a contagious delta variant sweeps through schools many of which do not require masks I'm Jennifer king
Vaccinated Texas School Counselor Who 'Had Done Everything Right' Dies After Contracting COVID-19
"The dallas morning news vaccinated. Texas school counselor. Who had done everything right dies after contracting cova carrollton texas try. Vm academy six hundred student. Charter school from her hospital. Bed sherry wise went on facebook to contemplate. What went wrong sixty-six-year-old woman. she said. She did everything right. She was fully vaccinated early in the pandemic mask-wearing to avoid touching people. The one thing that changed however was her new job. She was a secondary guidance. Counselor at vm. Academy she wrote on facebook. Is that where i got it. Who knows it proves the you can do all the right. Things and still succumb tragically. She succumbed two weeks. After that post she died. Now these stories. You're not hearing much about in the mainstream media.
"two week" Discussed on Stupid Genius with Emma Chamberlain
"Fireworks. I'm feeling more inspired than ever to regain my presence in everyday. Life and to not rely on distractions anymore and to face my thoughts and feelings head on instead of covering them up with distractions. Like i thought. I was good at it before. But i didn't realize that i had work to do and the first step to. That was deleting talk. He don't underestimate how these little habits can make such a big difference. I'm honestly really excited about this. Like i'm excited about this realization. And i'm excited about what i've learned from it so far and i just wanted to share this experience. Because i just didn't expect deleting tiktok off of my phone to be this insightful. For me like i just did not expect that like i thought that i would deleted off my phone and it would help me a little bit but i didn't think that it was going to make this big of a difference in my life and so i just felt like i had to share and i hope that you gain something from this. I hope that this may be shifted your perspective on some of your habits or behaviors and maybe can inspire you to try to be more present. And to stop using these distractions. I think that life is constantly battling distraction right drugs. Alcohol internet relationships friendships shopping. Like whatever it may be. There are so many distractions around us at all times. It's very hard to be present. It is very very hard. I'm trying to remove all negative distractions from my life so that i can be truly present as possibly can be and we're surrounded by potential negative distractions the internet video games unhealthy friendships unhealthy relationships. Shopping shopping can be also not toxic but like everything can be not toxic. That's why it's so hard you know what that's why it's so fucking hard. That's why this whole process is so difficult because it's like where's the line you know. Everything is fine in moderation. Even going on the internet is fine in moderation in it can even enhance your life in some ways right but it can also be the most toxic thing for you ever. That's why it's so fucking complicated because it's so different for everybody so that's why we all have to look inward and figure out what needs to go what needs to be removed from our lives. What are we doing to a point where it's negative like for me tiktok needed to go and needed to be deleted for you to talk. Might not be a problem. It might be instagram. That's why it's so fucking complicated. Because it's like. There's no set rule book for how to eliminate negative distractions because it's so different for every individual person. The goal is to do enough self reflection to figure out what it is for you so that you can be as present in happy as possible so that you can live life to the fullest and just live the fuck up baby my god. This topic is like getting me freaked out because it's like it so it's it's the whole concept is a gray area. You know what i'm saying. The whole concept is a gray area. I'm done all right. i'm done. that's it ran over. I am totally done But i really enjoyed talking to you guys today. And i hope you enjoyed hanging out with me and i hope that that wasn't too all over the place like i hope i was able to get one coherent thought out. I love you guys. i appreciate guys. Thank you for listening to me every single week if you do. This is your first time listening. Thank you for listening today. If you want to subscribe to anything goes. You can do that on any platform that you listen to podcasts. If you wanna follow anything goes on twitter. The twitter is at ag podcast. If you want to review anything goes on apple podcasts. Feel free to do that. I really appreciate it. And i love reading your guys reviews and i think that's all i got you guys. Thank you for hanging out. I'll see you next week bye..
"two week" Discussed on Stupid Genius with Emma Chamberlain
"Do things that i didn't even realize i wanted to do something even as small as my closet or cleaning out my car. You know what i mean. It's like all of a sudden. I like am inspired to do things that i like would have never done before but i will shed some light on the more difficult side of kind of logging off of the internet in a sense and becoming more present and distracting yourself less honest it actually can be also kind of emotional because we use these apps. These video games. These online activities as distractions right. And when you take away distractions. You're left with reality. And if you're reality kinda sucks at the moment it can be really upsetting when you become more present because now you have to deal with your shit right. You can't just go on tiktok for two hours and forget about your problems. If you're on this journey to becoming present right you can't anymore. You have to work through shit. You actually have to work through your problems. You can't run away and start online shopping to numb your pain. You can't you have to face that shit head on a good example would be. When i was on the treadmill and i was going on tiktok. My mind was on autopilot. I would think about nothing but the take talks. I was watching now. When i'm on the treadmill i stare at the wall. And i think about shit random shit whatever comes in my head it just. It's almost meditative in a sense. I'm just thinking about stuff like as they come and go. Well when you're just walking on the treadmill and thinking something upsetting might come to your head. Like for example. The other day. I was on the treadmill and i was just thinking to myself and i started to room mate about all the people in my life and i started to get anxious and i started to get this feeling like the would if everybody is using me. Like what if everybody's using me like what if nobody cares about me truly would if everybody has an ulterior motive. This is like fear that i have a lot. Whatever it's just something that i get anxious about frequently because i don't know my my anxiety likes to fixate on random things and that's one of them them like i get anxious about that frequently right just all. The sudden feeling frightened that like everybody around me is not genuine which is nothing personal to the people in my life at all. But it's like literally just an anxious thought it's completely irrational and stupid with absolutely no legitimacy behind it all but it's one of those things where it's just like something that my anxiety. It's just something that my brain likes to fixate on when it's anxious okay. Whatever so that thought came into my head. While i'm on the treadmill now normally when i would get an anxious thought i would go on my phone and go on tiktok and forget about my anxious. Thought i didn't even realize i was doing that okay. I no idea. I was even doing that but now that i don't have talk anymore. I'm on the treadmill. I'm walking. I start to have this anxious thought and i didn't have anything to distract myself with so i had to sit there with this thought and to work through it by myself and just get through it and the interesting thing is i was able to get through it and i was able to pass it because i didn't immediately jump up gone my phone go on tiktok and just pushed the problem back because i think what we don't realize is is that when we don't work through things they don't go away things. Don't just go away. that's just not how it works. If you didn't pay off your credit card bill that will come back to bite you one way or another. That will come back to bite you. It does not go away. Okay if you have an anxious thought about something you can distract yourself for a little bit but it'll come back. It does not go away until you face it head on and you be present.
"two week" Discussed on Axios Today
"The two thousand eleven film contagion. I wasn't the only one the ten year old movie got bumped during the last year. And you don't know about it. Just listen to how prophetic it was about our current reality. Don't talk to anyone. Don't touch anyone stairway. From other people as we get closer to the end of our real pandemic. i wonder just how accurate contagion is so. I asked his future reporter. Brian walsh to watch the movie with me. We re watched it together. Virtually brian what do you think was the most realistic parts of this. I mean i would say like the the contact tracing surly on was very realistic. Plays a cdc epidemiological investigator. And that's a real thing. They're sent out to the sites of outbreaks to kind of figure out what's going on all that was real in the movie. Essentially you get the vaccine in like okay. You're good that's movies versus life. I think where we have to deal with the sort of uncertainties those edge cases. That's keeping us from knowing exactly okay wasn't can we let the gas off so speak once we had the vaccine one thing. I wonder how realistic you think it is is the idea that once everyone's vaccinated they'd get a wristband to prove that they've been vaccinated. It's actually surprising. I guess we're getting cards right. Does a vaccine passport was turn. People are probably hearing now. Not sure we'll ever get to that point with cove. Ed just because i think potentially won't take the vaccine. We're not one hundred percent. Sure what it means in terms of reinfection. Both of you've been infected or whether you get the vaccines this might change or the course of the months and frankly years to come and we think about the whole world how long it'll take everyone get vaccinated and protected when you think about how we're living through this in real life now versus what we saw there i think with covid nineteen with still is driven. Home is different people view this risk when you had a virus like the one in the movie where anyone could be at risk. Everyone's scared that's never quite really been the case for covert maybe the very early stages when it wasn't clear but the fact that a lot of people don't feel that in danger really has changed the politics of how we've dealt with us if we experienced this who i mean. I don't know if we would have bounce back as fast as we do in the movie and quite honestly but at the same time we would have had a much more unified response and so in some ways the fact that we're getting off comparatively easier compared to the movie you know obviously means we have far fewer deaths far less social disruption. But the same time. It's going to be longer than we would have with this movie. We're past a year and we are far from wrapped up xs ryan walsh. Thanks for watching.
"two week" Discussed on Ross Patterson Revolution!
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That I only know the white guys name but on. hammer that like button by the way if you're watching on youtube right now is it matters Kroger's set a double queue qb with. Chee into large fries? Yes. Craig. All the things I've never gotten sick of McDonald's in this life. It's since I was a small boy to right now I will never ever shit on McDonald's. And I'll go there over water burger any day of the week I. Know we live in Texas and that's the Texas thing to do is go to water burger. nope. I'd rather go to Mickey D's. Double Up. Give me that double qb with cheese. Have you had the Travis Scott thing yet? Giorgio? And by that, you mean quarter panel cheese and Bacon is that all it is. Yeah it's literally nothing. Did they put fucking barbecue sauce on or something I? Mean maybe no not the fries that's trump's Scott fries. Travis Scott. That's it. That's all they fucking did. Yeah. Yeah. It's really pretty table I think. Sick Dan how to feel them yet? Did you have some damn? 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So let me get this right though CH- shift Tyson Cole, Yup of ood. Oh and Aaron. Franklin Franklin Barbecue. What's the name has come together Laura Loro. Let's. Moral Smoke House and. Bar. It's like a block and a half my house he's really. Good. It's amazing. Don't. Don't come by there we don't. We want to make sure that we don't see. Be. If you need me. Thank you. Really okay. Well, yeah. I've been wanting to go wherever we talked to Dan about other Dan. Sorry not fake Dan he's like. A winter. So? That means it was great. It was great. Yeah. No. Yeah I wanted to. Awesome. So it's going to be the best her Dan macos a say that he loved anything. Ever Yeah. Not once I took him to Mastro's in Vegas and that was the only time he was pleased. Screwed who used to. Well they really. It really doing something. Yeah, they should they should expand. Um, they should open up another place. Exactly. Speaking of other rappers by the way 'cause we're talking about quite. Oh My God man i. 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"Real about. It's on Saturday when I log on to do some emails the oldest in cure twenty two hours in Welsh it again, here's Kristen. WHO HEADS UP THE SUPPORT team? By the time? I I logged off on Saturday night. The oldest were twelve hours IRA. That's better. We're so used to base camp. This is so different. We have to think about support differently, not only because we're busiest fuck, but because people don't want. A few! Response I don't think it's not the same. I've been telling everyone when we have to think about the difference between these audiences at this is. We're still friendly like it's like you're helping a friend, but you're in a big fucking. Hurry. This support team wants their new colleagues to feel cared for and empowered even under these intense circumstances. Here's Ashley who helped onboard and train the temps. They were brought on with the possibility of making their positions permanent. I think it can be difficult to relay that. You're all right when they're not used to. Who You? You are in person. You've not really had any video chatting with them, so they can understand your own open. Communication is the main component leads to trust in leads to correct answers. It leads to discussions on whether things are working now. Should it be working that way? So in a folks have agency temper, not they need to be able to truly express that questions constantly. Welcome never too many questions, never never a wrong question especially in this time when we're really very much trying to figure it all out. The Support Team is like the beating empathetic heart of the company. If they're under pressure, everyone feels it and everyone can see it. The of the many bug reports in question that flood the customer Support Queue. This is especially true during the launch of Hey, you see tickets. Come in, like Oh, I can easily fix this in. It's hard to resist the urge to just fix it. Then it might point to a larger issue like you're just not in a good state of mind to start like fixing things then as you're fixing it. Ten more things are gonNA. Come in, and you're GONNA. Learn that somebody else. Else, is trying to fix it, so it's best just to you know back off and yet you watch the things come in. You're really just looking for anything super bad and you're trying to spot patterns. That part is tough as the person who's built a lot of the stuff. It makes you wanted to get in there and fix everything. Jonas is the Design League basecamp I've been doing these like bug. Fix Rounds for the last month or so it's become like a joke. I have these bundles of them in the number keeps going up, so it's like bug fixes. One bug fix to bug fixes forty eight. Especially when you're under a lot of pressure in answering a lot of cases right now that lead you to Kinda hurry a rush through something to try to get a fix out, and then you might miss some stuff in the Nadu's is a new problem, which is almost worse like it's better for the support team to at least know with the bugs. Are there you have to? Slow down a little bit. We don't have time to get into all of the fires that got put out during these two weeks there were mail bomb attacks including one where Jason got ten thousand emails at once, and there was a dos or distributed denial of service attack. The team also realized that the randomly generated burner email addresses were assigning names like cow and rats and customers are unhappy about that, so the format got changed to avoid these problematic combinations. There were also a lot of ideas. Learn around in these two weeks about how to respond to Apple. The team considered organizing email campaigns lobby apple CEO Tim Cook or making a parody version of the hey. APP that would cost eight hundred dollars. In other big thing that coincided with the launch of Hey, was that the lease on bees camps Chicago office was up Chicago. Employees had to return to the office individually to pack up. Their desks have trouble moving out of places. Because I'm kind of a sentimental person, it's not really so much the place or the stuff. It's the the memories like thinking back of what what lived experience. He had in that place working basecamp kind of changed my whole career trajectory and stuff as I remember like the first time interviewing there in parking nearby, and like being scared about an just you know all those feelings. Weird memories kind of pop back up. You know it's a thing like you like live in an apartment. and. You're sad about leaving, and then you start like taking the posters off the walls like empty out one of the rooms. You like this place kind a mess. anyways, forget about it. It kind of had that vibe whereas like. It was no longer the office that it was when we were there this. Chicago office have been base camps physical home for ten years when the company I moved in, it looked quite different from how it looks today. A lot has changed in a decade. More mature now if something had gotten, this popular is hey. Ten years ago, we would fallen over about ten years ago I didn't interview with Jason Calcutta's on his this weekend startup show so I'm really excited to have David. Hopefully I'm going to get this right Haina Meyer. person. David Hanson. It's not that hard to say. You don't have the competitive spirit to go up against Microsoft's. Or their office suite. We're going on a bunch of their shit. Now for share point, you're not going after g mail. That problem doesn't interest me to company. We had in two thousand and ten was a new position to take on email we didn't have the capacity wouldn't have the experience. We didn't have the skills. We didn't have the ambition. After twenty years of building software sixteen years of running base camp, we were ready and finally kind of that shirty in ourselves. Although maybe people will laugh at that Samuel already been completely cocksure. Since the beginning. In some ways, but not in this way, and that's what was different. We really thought like if not us, then, who, if not now then when? Change is hard, and it's particularly difficult to go through a lot of change in a compressed amount of time in public, and during a period of painful and scary transformation for the world at large. The early success of Hey essentially created a second company within basecamp when that will need additional team, members and resources. People here are just starting to process what he means for the future of their day to day work, and for the culture at base camp, and what impact hey might have on the industry. It was a chaotic. Enthralling but horrible two weeks in feels like twenty years in the Sir Twenty first year in business, we may have another massive hit our hands that the last the last one was from two thousand four Basecamp, and now it's hey, and so this is a chance this. We have to go all in and cash in. Many, many many years of calm for a couple of chaotic weeks to get it right and to do everything we had to do to.
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"Heading into Monday, there were two important things happening in the week. The I was getting approval for the newest version of the irs up with the burner email account feature. The second was sending out, invites to the remaining seventy, thousand or so people on the hey, weightless and fully opening. Hey to the public on Thursday. So on Monday morning the team released version one point zero point two of the Hey IOS APP. That's the one that had been held up the previous week and finally approved on Friday night. Jason published an open letter to apple titled Apple, Hey and the path forward and the teams submitted the new version of their APP, the one with the burner emails it was unclear whether there would be any response from apple before ww DC which kicked off at ten. Am Pacific Time on Monday. Good morning and welcome to w WDC WBZ is an incredibly important event to apple, our developers and our users. It's apple developer Chris. That's what everyone calls it because it's like this is when we get all this new stuff again. This is Zach the team lead, not only do develop tools and new. API's and announced new IOS in Mac Os versions, so we get to see. All the stuff. We love this new technology, and they give it a whole bunch to us in one day on. Friday my thought was. I'm not GonNa Watch. WWe This year I'm GONNA show Apple. Not Going to watch it. This is Dylan. The other program are on the team. His jumbled feelings were what a lot of people FBI Camper experiencing at the start of the second week as everyone waited for apple's response, it's all mixed a lot of jumble of emotions, and and feels usually programming doesn't have feels. Like the Tom Hanks movie. There's no ceiling in programming. Crying Baseball? What are you leave her alone Jim off? and Monday the newly hire temps on support started answering customer emails and other twenty thousand invites were sent out, and some other folks at base camp picked up the baton from the weekend and kept working come Monday was like now. There's actually has to work jeff as a programmer on base camps, core product team we. We had a working version that it was based on our traditional sign up like a regular sign up. We want know throwaway accounts. We need to be able to throw them away. Neil we don't want them interfering with paying accounts, and we also have a bunch of restrictions round right? We don't want someone easily able to sign up for one and then spam people. We don't want people signing up for thousands of them and automating that process we were concerned that by you know sort of opening this up to a wider audience, and actually explicitly creating this kind of burner. Her temporary email account featured that this openness up to different avenue of abuse. This is try who had space camps, operations team, and so we did end up spinning up some unique outbound infrastructure, so that those. Those temporary emails were using different. Sending Ip's in the case that if the content was bad or the those email addresses were misused, we limited their impact on the overall experience for how users I was able to think through it in layers like okay, so I really only need to get this done because these burner accounts last for two weeks, which means I have two weeks to really think through my cleanup plan? I think that that's the right instinct to have in software, because things change so often is just think like a few steps ahead. have an idea of a possible future, but realize that that may not be the one that you end up going with so like to think through. What would I do like? What things can I defer? And what are the costs of deferring so something like this? I realized yet. We have two weeks before we really have to make sure these burner accounts. Get cleaned up in disabled so all I really have to do is make sure that the application that we submit to apple like works and hold. Hold up under scrutiny, and so I knew I just had to finish those essential things before Wednesday in. We really had time to do the rest. Fortunately, we got it all done on Tuesday. The APP would the burner email feature went into review. Apple approved it on Wednesday, and on Thursday Hayes doors open to the public know, invite code needed the OPS team under. Troy was in charge of making sure. The system was ready to handle the new surge of sign. UPS In reaction was okay. We're ready. and has also base camps first product launch in the cloud, which is probably another thing that's kind of unique for us about. Hey in the past when we've launched our products, we've usually launched them on our own hardware inter data centers. Thankfully, we were in the cloud because trying to move this quickly. Changing your scale requirements changing higher building at your system would. It would have taken potentially weeks versus days because we're not going off and you know ordering physical hardware from Dell that has to show up and ended up in Iraq. Be Cable together. I think a lot of basecamp. People feel like this. Is this sort of highly unusual unstable crazy environment of this launch? For me, it felt like a calm lodge just because. You had clear decision making with David and Jason. A decision life changing the entire launch plan can happen without you. Being on conference calls all week long. And then I think there's just a level of trust among the people here at basecamp. You know I think there was healthy recognition that what we're trying to do. was kind of outrageous, had the potential to go terribly wrong? Nobody seemed concern about that. It was very much of an optimistic feeling around lodge. Lodge even though there's this part of your brain that's going. This makes no sense by Thursday. A week and a half into launch the support team had been working with new colleagues for a couple of days, and they were chipping away at a wall of emails. Unlike anything they'd seen in recent memory. When you talk about base camp, it's UNICORNS and Emojis, exploration points, and all the details and let me. Me Know more about your business with hey ads. You've gotTA question. Here's the answer and then move onto the next one because there's three hundred other people waiting behind you. This is chase from customer support. You have to realize you're going on for kind of the long. Call here, right? This is not a like a hotdog eating contest. He was a shift, but I think it's. It's a good shift. Who Because? because. It's a shift that lines up more with what has product. Hey is calm. He is quiet. Hey, as emails not going to control me, I'm GonNa Control so you can get a bring them in Saudi to all the support stuff to than that means when you come in to the The Hague you in the morning. There's like this morning. There were six hundred something in there. You start with one. You you answer that one and you move on, and you make sure not to fall into that same inbox, zero mentality that David Jason.
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"Our product and the team we ended up with five people that were signed contract signed ready to go, and then five additional people who we weren't sure if we needed them, and we kind of put them on retainer ended up, working out in Andrea fucking busted her ass, also head of people ops getting these contracts in figuring out payroll in all of this ship. She worked just as hard as I did over the weekend we had everyone lined up on Saturday. Which is why I went to bed at seven. I were working and about seven seven thirty. I was I'm going to go to bed. In the morning after we got, everything signed I spent the day. Creating on boarding process. How can I get people? Really quickly trained on a product that is brand new. That were still learn a new onto like we know the general things about this product. We've been using it for months, but now I have to quickly onboard all these people and make sure that they understand the basic outline of what the product doesn't. It's not like any other email server risk. So. We usually do two weeks in person Elizabeth is a principal customer. Support Rep at base camp. She's been part of the on boarding process for many new hires, but it's never been anything like this. After the to in person weeks. Usually it was kind of several weeks of building up and working closely with other team members going back and forth on cases. So the whole process, I think really until someone was totally up to speed would be three months. I was funny. Because that Saturday I was trying to make the new on boarding projects in I originally was basically using our ordinary template and thinking like Oh, I! Just need to shave a little off here and there and then there was a memorize like wait. This whole thing needs to come down like it's all I got to burn it all down. That's. Of Training compressed into about a day and a half we met. We did a video chat. We introduce ourselves. I had them watch Jason's Demo on Youtube. And then I, had them read through all the snippets that we had written the previous week, so they can get a sense of like Oh what are people asking an answer, those questions? That's what those are really good for so sack and Connor. Guys to? Make this new version. Yup by Monday and. Also you need to hire people went Monday to. Ask a lot of lot from a lot of people, but everyone came through beautiful. With the weekend over in a plan in place, we come to act three. There are.
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"Like Hayes. Also an enterprise software platform, and that's okay, or maybe it's going to be this free thing. That's okay once again. This is David. Hi Niemeyer Hanson Base Camps Co founder and CTO. We were thinking. Do you know what now is our moment? We have to closed this. There's a lot of attention on it right now, both. Both from the press and from regulators. That's not GonNa last forever, right? We can't drag this out for two months, so we need to really hurry up here and do we usually don't do which was. We worked through the weekend to make this happen to father's Day weekend to come up with a plan to implement plan to test the plan to get it already on on that Monday, the first day of the worldwide developer conference for Apple. We could have a proposal on Apple's desk that we thought. They would take. We want to show good faith effort. We want to show that we want to work with them. They asked they said they want to work on a path forward. So do we so we're going to get to work and do the work and give them something. They can see immediately first thing Monday morning. We had basically a day and a half to build it. I got I got a call from. David and Jason at some point on Saturday morning again. This is Zach the irs lead, and they said they kind of have an idea about what they wanted to do. Can we get this done? We have some friends and near L. to go out to their cabin in Montana the weekend. This is connor a designer on the team. I bailed on work early on Thursday, enjoyed Friday mostly not working and. Jumping Lake swimming and all that fun stuff, and then on Saturday morning I looked at my phone at like ten or something, and there's a text from Jason. while. That's never happened before. A very. WHO's putting me? He says Hey. Connor I note Saturday, but need to draft you to help out with something import Zach's on board and we need to pull off a miracle Monday morning. Starting at that moment, I might go He says I know tomorrow's fathers. As we have to see if we can get this done today, can we talk? The I often basecamp, add. The collins spun up a product for started Laos News Zach Forty. Chunk of progress on it, and then Rosa being the jars person she has hopton to help, and also to help. You wish so many fires on so many box on so many emergencies. This is Rosa, a programmer on the security infrastructure and performance team I was so focused on then that I didn't even lend about the -opoly until some frame outside base. Go that link me to Tucson tweets from dairy. Anisa what what is going to have no idea? I think the challenge to that. We had to make some indications to our sign up roses very thousand bike week. What hey is also a programmer on the security infrastructure and performance team? This was regarding like completely isolated season for signing up in doubt Gatien which is completely isolated from the that signed up works low completely isolated from our billing system different emails. It's very simple to describe intensive work. It represented a decent amount of work. Going Back to David said Nita's to happen over the weekend. Come up with the plan. Check implement the plan. Check test the plan for that. You need base camps, one person. Quality Assurance Department Michael as sort of started seeing some messages from a few folks on the team that they had this work lined up one of the things with with Qa. It's like it always helps to sort of know about things earlier. Sort of gives your mind the space to think through. Concerns or scenarios that may be weren't anticipated by someone else. The team didn't have the luxury of time. In this case, they had to implement and test the best version of the APP they could make an a weekend. Here's Jonas the design Lee base camp. kind of Saturday was like planning and figuring out in like the first attempt at implementing it, and then Sunday was kind of like thinking through a little bit more and be like Hey, is there anything we forgot here? We're going to have one more shot to make sure it's right I would say we do so many things where sleeping on it makes such a difference especially when you're under stress or making a decision quickly we try to take a little time away from it and come back because for whatever reason in the morning. You see a differently like you. Like what was wrong with my nighttime self close thinking something about like the end of the day. You get tired unless you're not thinking as clearly in the morning. Everything's clear again. By Sunday, which happened to be father's Day? The team had a working version of the hey IOS APP that they believed would satisfy apple's demands. People could use the APP without signing up for a paid. Hey, account, and they would just receive a randomized email address. That would last for fourteen days. But another issue had bubbled up during the first week of launch. Base camp had been sending out. Hey, invite codes to people who'd signed up on a wait list because of all the hype around launch by the end of the first week that invite list had ballooned to almost one hundred thousand people to try to move through the list. The team had started sending out thousands of invite codes a day versus the original plan, which was just a few hundred, but it still wasn't enough. The whole purpose of the list was to allow us to slowly roll this thing out in a controlled manner, but when the list got so large. It was all sort of out of control. Anyway, let's figure out how to just get this out. We want everyone now to be able to use this thing. This timing is right so Jason and David decided to move up the public launch from sometime in July to June twenty fifth. exhilarated public launch would have implications across the company, and especially for basecamp support team under the original plan where just a few hundred invites, a day would be sent out at first Jason and David had planned to answer all of the hey, related customer support emails, the rest of the support team would be monitoring incoming questions, organizing responses to the most frequently asked questions and staying on top of the queue for base camps, other products, but once the Apple Situation Started Jason David's attention was diverted, and the support team was facing a mountain of emails. They're pulled away with all these media interviews. And were in charge of this cue that is growing and growing and growing again. This is Kristin. Head of base camps customer support. I actually thought it was gonna be okay through through the whole week. And Saturday morning I got a text Jason. Asking me to hire five tenths to start on Monday mornings. Like am I gonNa do this. Am I GONNA? Get this done like what the fuck! I wasn't sure I got a text from Kristen are head of customer support. Andrea is the head of people upset based Kim. She said that we had been tasked with hiring five. At least five temporary customer support representatives to to help out with the hate you. Very intentionally designed process for hiring an for on boarding. And this was none of that. We talked about a couple options. The first was people that we interviewed that we liked in the last round. talked about just tapping some friends or friends of friends that might be interesting because it was such short notice that we really had to cover all the bases. We are very upfront that it was not going to be a typical experience. When it comes to on boarding at basecamp or even working at basecamp was a plea almost like. Can you help us out? It's a short period of time. It's going to be a little bit chaotic, but it's going to be very exciting and you're gonNA. Have a huge impact on. Our business and.
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"Back, basecamp there was still a lot of activity. Jason wrote an open letter to apple, explaining that his opposition to I wasn't just about the thirty percent cut, although he did find that to be extremely high versus the single digit percentages that credit card processors charge. For Jason The bigger issue is that using apple's AP system would force customers to go through apple instead of base camp if they needed help, we have a platform. We have a lot of people who pay attention what we're doing and I felt like I had some points I. WanNa to make specifically the first one around the thirty percent thing not being the biggest issue here. WHO's right? Is it to tell me tell us to tell our customers how we can interact with them? We spent a lot of time. A lot of effort in hired a lot of people to do things our way. We do things really really well. We're extremely proud of our customer service. A Response Times responsiveness. You can't really service your customers in a way that you want to. If you care about customer service, if you push people through the APP store, you can't handle refunds. You can't handle partial payments. You can't handle hardship exemptions. You can't give people half-off. If someone is a billing issue can't help them you to say. Go go ask Apple, and when you ask Apple. Sometimes it can take three to five days to get a response. We're known as to get back to people within an hour. Jason's letter went up on Friday and the workday ended without any response from apple, however a day earlier on Thursday Phil Schiller Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing and give an interview to tech crunch where he'd suggested a few. Few ways, hey could comply with apple's rules. So when David took to twitter on Friday, he had changed his tone slightly. We drew the line in the sand. We're not gonNA. Pay You thirty percent. You can't just show up and shake down on the day of our launch after you've approved our APP and then ask US thirty percent of revenues, not gonNA. fucking happen I said he changed his tone slightly okay. I didn't say he got a full personality transplant, but There are other things that could happen. Phil Schiller you've gone out in the press and asked for other things and that you would love to see us in the APP store I. Don't know what's in Phil Schiller hearts apart. Maybe he really does love to half pay in the APP store I like that romantic notion. Let's just take that at face value and say look. This is what he wants to and. And we've somehow just misunderstood. These incredibly bake APPs store rules and Phil Schiller is now telling us what we're supposed to do so that's the olive branch extended after seeing. WE'RE GONNA burn the house down in his tech. Crunch Interview Phil Schiller had suggested a number of things. Hey, do things like charging different prices for the APP on the phone and the APP on. On. The web or offering a free version with other features, Here's one of David's responses on twitter for all the snark in exasperation. We're going to take at P.. Schiller his offer quoting Phil. Schiller now there are many things that they could do to make the APP work with the rules that we have. We would love for them to do that now. Quoting David. David again we won't ever do the AP but try some of the other quote. Many things and quote then around ten PM on the East Coast where Zach Dillon live. Everyone on the team got notification so I. Get a notification on my phone that there's a new message from APP. Review interesting thing year with this Zapper News. They don't send anything in the email. You know it's like a bank. Her like adopted. They send you an email saying to go check something else so there's no content. They'RE GONNA win log into there to the APP store connect website. That's where all this kind correspondence takes place to actually see what the messages so a lot of anxiety. I know there's a new message we haven't done anything so who knows what happens next? The note read in its entirety hello. Jason. David's tweets and look forward to working with you on a path forward. This has been approved sincerely APP review. Board, I just a base camp, and I was basically like what is happening, and it was so casual and informal in so shorts that we figure I figured this had to be written by Phil Schiller or someone very high up in Apple. If you're just like a normal employee and you're communicating about a issue, that's gotten publicity. You know you're really light your very careful about it. And this was just always. We saw David's twenty. Okay, cool things a great by. Wonderful because. This was version one point Oh two, which had been approved. This is the version that was being held up for a week. It was the center of all the controversy, but that's not the end of this. Because one point or two is a bug. Fix version like that's not the future of the product. That was just the bug fixes or being held. What are we going to find a medium where they're happy? We're happy. You heard Jason this is not the end. Apple dropped this cryptic note late on a Friday night ww DC, they're big developer event was scheduled to kick off on Monday sign ups for Hey and the first week of launch had wildly exceeded company expectations, and there were still tens of thousands of people on the wait list for an invite code, and with that. Let's head into act to a miracle by Monday. After Approving version, one point zero point, two of the HEY APP and saying they wanted to work on a path forward apple kind of vanished again there was no further communication via the developers portal or a phone, call or twitter. All the team had to go on was Phil Schiller's quotes in that tech crunch piece I was thinking about other ways that people can use email again. Here's base camp founder and CEO Jason Freed and I was walking around and I saw a lost dog. Add on a telephone pole and had someone's email address on it. We have a cat mcph I lost my cat. I don't know if I'd WANNA put my email address up. There would if I could put a temporary address up. There know thinking about like with craigslist. When you put an end up on Craig's list, they hide your email address essentially from the public they give you this like weird. Token is one. This would actually be really interesting thing. We could offer temporary randomized email addresses that expire. It's a trial. There's no path to move on. It's not an actual You'd WANNA. Keep. This is just a temporary email for people who wanna use an email for something that doesn't. Doesn't last very long. Everything lasts forever. There's some situations you wanna sign up for something. You don't want to give you real. An email address that's we came up with this idea and that satisfied apples demands. Because it was a free thing, it was limited. It did not continue into a paid thing. There was no path from this temporary email address to paid, and then we also had been building. Hey, for work. which is what we're using at base camp now. A couple of other companies are using it which is a multi user version of Hey where the company pays, and the employees don't, and that's another condition that. Allows in the APP store without having to pay thirty percent I don't even know which one of them is going to do it either. It's going to be this thing about.
"two week" Discussed on Rework
"David works the press and social media angles. Jason filed an official appeal with Apple Jason's regular writer. I think it'd make compelling points Davis been out there on twitter is getting some noise and. A lot of times. This thing happens where know something happens to review, and then it makes noise, and then they reverse it, so I had every hope that point that it would be the reverse. They say okay. Yeah, this is fine. This is like the other APP and other APPs Gray area, or whatever, but it's fine. We were hopeful at this point. It had gotten a whole. Whole lot of media attention, the overwhelming sentiment was not favorable towards apple. We thought that apple was GONNA want an out at this point I used to. We were pretty surprised actually when they talk to the press before they even told us about the sign of rejection, it goes on twitter, and then I saw post. Go Up from techcrunch protocol on the verge like simultaneously. This was plan. Apple had sent the response to base camp, and a select group of media outlets at the exact same time, and their rejection came back to this fundamental disagreement over whether hey, needed to offer in that purchase. But the part that really stung was something they said about base camps history with Apple. One line read that base camps APPs quote do not offer in APP purchase, and consequently have not contributed any revenue to the APP store over the last eight years and quote, they said well. You've been in the APP store for eight years. You haven't contributed. That is like wow, this is this is a couple days before they're about. The have their really good wwe see where they tell other developers how much we appreciate you. Know. We have not contributed to APPs store revenue. However, apple sells thousand dollar phones and these thousand dollars phones. They can only sell because of this entire ecosystem, so to say that we have we've added no value to their system is that that's offensive to a situation where both of us benefited provided, a marketplace for an apple provided an easy way for customers to get to the software. And we contribute to the IPHONE and MAC. Os being valuable products that people want. The real heartbreak here is that base camp? The company is full of apple fans. Employees Use apple products at work and in their homes. Apple's design has inspired base camps products the introduction of the IPHONE. IOS changed the course of Zach and Dylan's entire careers. And Apple is a crucial part of Jason Freeze Origin Story. Eighty seven I. Remember going over my friend Adams House right next door. He's like Jason. You gotta check this thing on. Like what is he's like just come over so like all right, so I run downstairs in my house I run across the lawn, I. His front door's always open I wave. Hi to his mom. Sylvia and I caught the stairs and. And, he go into Adams bedroom in there was there was a Mac se running Microsoft flight simulator in blew my mind, and that's like I, got into software gotten to design I got into running a business all because of apple, and that moment of seeing that thing that Mukasey for the first time is how I've always wanted people to see our products. When people see hey, for the first time to go. This is totally different. Part of it was that apple was one of the good guys. They're a big company. In late stage, capitalism I I know that, but also thought that directionally apple was aligned with my own values, and I was developing for. You know a platform and and contributing to the wellbeing of accompany because I do believe that what I do contributes to well being. And they contribute to mind and I thought that we were aligned. There were moments over those two weeks where. I thought to myself like if apple just didn't let us put an APP in the APP store I was actually contemplating retirement like literally. Saying like to be in this industry, if I can't run my own business, my own way, and we've gone through all these these steps not to become someone else's company, but to stay independent, and now there's a company out there saying well, you could be independent as long as you give you thirty percent of our revenues like that's worse than V deal. Why does it have to be this way out? That's really I think what ultimately got me riled up and I lost a lot of sleep over it and I. Feel like I was ill. Like physically ill because of the stress and things, a lot of other people felt same similar. If not more stress anxiety for maybe different reasons, you know in all this time we head huge amount of positive feedback on all levels all platforms so. Exciting time now we're just trying to like fight to. Even have are out there for customers. WanNa bail outs I. Don't want to go in front of Congress yet we get sue apple, but they have like two hundred billion dollars in cash. They could just. Draw down to raw dead, so it's like not even a fight could be from. Zach. He's one hundred percent in like. Let's do a confrontation like let's just. And, that's conner base camps. IOS Designer David like I'M GONNA burn this place down and the side. Conversations were kind of like no need to pick a fight to poke the bear. Since we had one point Oh in the APP store. We had customers using out. There are still bugs, so we're still like trying to focus in might go through our. Blog less and our feature lists trying to figure out what's next was just really really distracting. A make any forward progress. It was still uncertain whether it's. Going to be an APP at all anymore. Jason David handling the original strategy and we were told. Don't work on earned that purchased or like any sort of like work around Akiva kind of put on pause in many respects. It wasn't really any room where all you need for us to be doing anything until they decide what they want to do. Apple denied Jason's appeal on Thursday. Day Four of launch, this is hugely demoralizing to base camp, and the team in particular, and the level of publicity was still at a fever pitch, but there were so many other things going on in the world like protests following the killing of George Floyd Some people at base camp struggled with managing their emotional energy. During this time. Here's Jane Cam data analysts. She'd been pulling all kinds of numbers during launch week, including figures on apple's clout in the mobile industry given the context in that week, and that moment of what was going on. The the level of outrage for instance might have felt looking at those numbers at another point in time was much more muted. The fight to improve the rules and to decrease the slice of the Pie. That apple gets you know. It's an issue worth fighting for instance issue with fighting, because not just base camp faces and a lot of. A lot of companies that don't have the privilege and the platform and the independence to be able to make these statements like just there's a lot of fear. Also people are fighting for the right to be able to just like exist without being killed by police at the same time. The days in which I was pulling, these numbers were also the days in which some of the public outcries were the loudest and the poll to really. Be. Doing more felt the strongest. That was one of the things that I was having a hard time with with balancing. Everything was going on in the world, and then being super focused on the launch of Hey, this is Lexi, a customer support representative at base camp. WHO's based in new? York by the Friday of Launch Week. Seventeen person team was fielding. Thousands of Hey. Emails a day. Friday was also June eighteenth, which commemorates the day in eighteen, sixty five, when federal orders ending slavery were read in Texas two years after the emancipation proclamation this year, June eighteenth was marked by celebrations and protests across the US this is a revolution in. The civil rights movement happening in our era right now and I just could not bear to be looking at a computer screen for another day. I had to do something I had to be on the street I had to be connecting with. I, also a white woman, and I know that me observing June teeth is very loaded, and and I'm open to learning about that and trying to continue learning. But it felt.
"two week" Discussed on Rework
"The. Plane was to launch on June fifteenth with not just a Web APP but mobile APPs for. ANDROID and desktop APPs for Windows Lennox and MAC the first sign of trouble landed on John's lap the Friday before launch. His team is in charge of the desktop APPs including the one for Mac. We submitted our desktop. MAC APP to the MAC APP store. And they rejected outright. The reason for this rejection was because hey doesn't offer a way to pay for the service inside the APP for that. You have to go to the web. Apple has rules for developers around in-app purchases or I A P for short. You'll be hearing that term a lot in this episode. Basically, if you're selling something, you have to go through apple system for collecting payment and give apple a cut. We just forgot that that was an issue directly our company has. Only, dealt with IOS APPs. We've never use the MAC APP store before so fortunately. You can install Mac apps without that MAC APP store just by hosting the files ourselves Nubia who's new at the company in March on our team, we through our curve ball, and said here's the new plan. And she pulled off moving the entire Mac, APP, to our own infrastructure in the day. Okay, so that was a pretty straightforward work around, but this hiccup with the desktop was. was just the beginning unlike MAC OS, there's no way to directly distribute mobile APPs for the iphone and IPAD for that. You have to go through the APP store and Follow Apple's rules that includes using their payment system. If you want to charge customers for your APP and giving apple, thirty percent of what you make, there are however many examples of companies that have successfully skirted this. The defacto facto rules everyone operates under which is a combination of written and unwritten. Is that if you have another way of doing payment? than you cannot advertise. It were linked to it within the APP Dylan is a programmer on the Iowa team, so you can offer a service that has a log in like Netflix for example. And you can have people create accounts and set up payment. Elsewhere but you cannot in the APP. Linked to that or give people any information about that. This netflix style setup is what the team landed on. If customers wanted to. Hey, guess, they'd sign up on the web at Hey, dot, com, avoiding apples, iep and the hey IOS. APP would be careful not to advertise that sign up method so with that decided. The team got ready for launch day. Hey was planned to be launched on June fifteenth and we knew that getting it on the APP store typically on a new product where they were Hewitt. More scrutiny is scary. Week ahead of time. We submitted the APP. And that was. That was one week before the product's launch. And then it was approved. And we are a great. We have an APP to go ready for June Fifteenth Day of launch. Then we built more features than we fixed a lot of bugs. Then we submitted our bug update. This was on Sunday night, and hope was that are bug are bugs except date with approved pretty quickly and most people would naturally. We ever see the good version later in the day and Monday. Monday morning we were rejected. You know I didn't think it was a kind of a crisis situation yet like every Iowa's developer, we've had various rejections Zach as a programmer and the lead for the IRS team. We thought oh well. We'll flame, and then they'll say okay. That's fine, we you know we got confused. We made a mistake. You Know Zach and I. We both woke up probably about sitting in bed and I know I was messing back before the pay. What do we do what we do? And we said we prepared a response. For Apple, explaining that, Hey, as a web service and the IRS, APP is a compliment to that Web service all count management. All payment is done to the web service, and that's what we explained. The team wasn't too worried at this point, but morning on Monday. Apple rejected the APP again. Here's Basecamp CEO Jason Freed we didn't know the depth. Of nervousness anxiety, we were about to enter the pit. It's funny because we were tempered because the excitement for the project off the charts, and so we were excited, but also kind of terrified because we couldn't deliver what we wanted to deliver, which was a great APP on every platform. One point was great, but I mean if that was the last person we could ever do that wouldn't be great enough we. We have other things to do and other. Other improvements WHO WANNA make if we gated there. We'd be in real trouble so that that was the start of it, so we said you know we're just going to resubmit. There are so many stories on the Internet and personal experience. To that one day we got a reviewer that was accepted at next day. We got a reviewer that didn't so. We thought we'd spend the roulette wheel and navy will. Maybe we'll get the reviewer this time. WHO's okay. So, later on Monday, we submitted a new binary changed the screen shots. The AP very quickly went into review. which is unusual. And then Saturday review for. A day, which is also very unusual, and usually it doesn't take that long. When it's review shows saves already been approved. It shouldn't like. They have to learn it from scratch and she. Kind of doing their their sanity. Check on. It so once start to be interviewed for while you're kind of like alarm bells go off like Oh. This is, there might be a problem here. This newer version that was stuck in Apple's review process was one point point two and then on Tuesday saxophone rang. Very little phone calls and ninety nine, seven or spam. You know they're all from my like my local area code. They'll tell me about my car. Warranty your credit card, Bill or something. This one said San Jose. I don't know anyone there so i. kind of thought like Oh this is this is apple, and I've been doing Iowa's development since two thousand eight, when they released the first case, and I've never talked to apple before. No says hi. I'm calling from Apple. We're talking about you. Review Beloit than kind of tells me that this is not a mistake. They've escalated it internally, and they are rejecting it. They're not changing. Their minds is basically this is. How it is right. It wasn't a discussion. I jump right into basecamp and high mentioned everyone, Connor and Dylan everyone the Iowa team. Jason David said well it's. Apple, and this is not good so version one point zero point you had been rejected for not offering in APP purchase version one point Oh whistle still in the APP store and people could download it, and if they were in the first batch of customers who received hey, invite codes they could create accounts and start using the APP, but now the team was worried. Apple would yet version one point. Point Oh from the APP store so basecamp, Co founder and CTO David Haina Myer Hanson. Did what he does best, and took the fight to twitter on Tuesday afternoon D. H. tweeted, there is no chance in bloody hell that we're going to pay apples ransom. I will burn this house down myself before I let gangsters spin it for spoils. This is profoundly perversely abusive and unfair douses is the company. We were looking at an existential threat from our perspective in the sense that we'd already made the ethical choice that we were not going to give apple thirty percent. You can't launch a major mainstream email service. If you're not on the IPHONE, so if apple was going to kick us out at the APP store because of that. We would already have burned half the house down and then to finish the job, we would have sought every recourse in the book and we talked to lawyers about it. Like what is it look like? Just sue apple for this kind of stuff and they went Let me tell you you have a good case. Against one point five trillion dollar company. Who's going to hire three of the highest payed law firms in the US to absolutely borough you with subpoenas and positions, and hey, here's your life for the next ten years. By Wednesday the third day of launch, David's tweets were blowing up the dispute with apple over their rejection of the hey app was getting covered by CNBC Bloomberg wired the verge and many other tech outlets. The publicity was creating a huge surge of interest in. Hey, so while.
"two week" Discussed on WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch
"The opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal this is Potomac Watch. We talked the last podcast about Nancy. Pelosi's push for a fourth Kuroda Virus. Relief Bill from Congress and her idea of getting significant infrastructure spending in it. A president trump has now endorsed that in theory He tweeted with interest rates for the United States. Being at zero. This is the time to do. Our decades long awaited infrastructure bill. It should be very big and bold. All capital letters two trillion dollars and focused solely jobs in rebuilding the once great infrastructure of our country Kim Thi trump is a builder. And so this has always been the kind of thing that appeals to him and he is huddled with. Democrats on infrastructure. In the past. I think last year there was talk. Maybe of doing this. Why has it broken down previously? And will this be any different? Well this has always been the great hope right because this is the one area where everybody agrees in. Theory trump loves to build things. Democrats love to spend money and it's never worked out in the past because their disdain for the president has been so much that they didn't want to give him a victory or work with him on anything so it from my perspective the risk here because by the way I think this is a terrible idea but the risk here is that we now have a new vehicle for working together right which is a response to corona virus And Nancy Pelosi is positioning. This says a stimulus. The president is positioning this as a stimulus. I think one problem though. And you're gonNA see that kind of clash as debate goes forward. Is that Nancy? Pelosi's idea of stimulus is to give a lot of money to schoolteachers okay. Donald Trump made clear in his his tweet that he sent out about this. It needs to be focused on the economy and building. That's broken down in the past two as well because of those very divergent visions of what An infrastructure bill looks like and that could still be a hurdle for anyone to get over. But even if you even if you grant trump his vision of it that this would be bridges and roads and ports and dams dredging and stuff like that It's hard for me to see how this is going to be a stimulus in during the rotavirus bill. I mean how was in this. The problem with the Obama stimulus during the financial crisis. That was shovel ready. That wasn't shovel. Ready Be Bill. How fast could this buddy possibly get anywhere near the actual economy? Yeah well I think I'm as Kim SORTA suggested you know. We learned that. The definition of shovel ready was That it goes to teachers pay and pensions and so forth but again I I think Kashmir on the same wavelength here. I don't think it's just not GONNA HELP. And Corona virus. I think it's it's kind of a dubious idea in itself and especially for our economy. Now I don't see how the this solves the problem that we have. I mean the problem we have is that we've stopped a lot of production because of this so there's a lot of demand there just isn't the supply. I don't really know what this does because once some of those steps are lifted. I think there's going to be a lot of pent up. Demand satisfied There's GonNa be lots of gearing up on the economy and I descend from the idea. Also that bold equals more dollars you know when I worked in a White House. People would say that sometime. We need a big ticket thing. No no small beer and that always got me very nervous because I think very few examples. Where were that's worked just to pick out one example though of why this we'll take so long to get through Let's talk a little about Nipah. The National Environmental Protection Act Which the Journal has has written a good amount over the years So that's the the law that requires environmental studies of new infrastructure. Projects like roads so there is a study of that in the White House that said that The average final environmental impact statement From two thousand thirteen two thousand seventeen took four years and ran six hundred seventy pages and remember. That's an average so there are some really wild outliers like a EXP- expansion of an interstate twelve miles of an interstate. That took like nine thousand pages or something like that So in January the trump administration has Propose a rule that would streamline this a little bit and put presumptive limit on those impact statements of two years and three hundred pages but that rule. I don't think Kim that rule I don't think that's finalized yet. And so that could help but still I mean you're still talking about two years before any of this money would potentially be put into the road. It's not finalized and it's also because it's an executive order or rule I. It's not necessarily a true. Were four and that's one of the other problems with this whole debate. Discussion is that. It's the rest of the Republican Party and the rest of the Democratic Party to not just Nancy Pelosi and trump and there's long been and understanding among Republicans that they have a price if there's going to be public money spent on infrastructure right. Because you're GONNA have some people say oh you know this is just something we can will put a little bit of seed money and will leverage private sector dollars to do these things but the reality is you're going to have to put a bunch of government money into do this and Republicans have always said Democrats if you want us to do that and commit this money to. You're going to have to allow for regulatory reform so that these projects can get done at lake off the ground. Get moving within a matter of months and because the environmental left basically controls the Democratic Party. That's always been a place. Democrats won't go. So you still have that fundamental problem there in the it's maybe. Donald Trump could pushes party to go along with this but there is going to be an enormous amount of Republican skepticism. To move like this if there wasn't some fundamental change in the law and a Senate Majority Leader Mitch. Mcconnell is already Already playing this down a little bit saying that you know we need to wait and see how the last emeals Bill went Before we do anything else so you know maybe this will end up as another donald trump tweet and nothing more but we'll have to wait and see Let's talk a little bit now about Joe Biden who is still stuck at at home But trying to get his message out so he has launched a new podcast called. Here's the deal with Joe Biden. And he does seem to be shifting his own tone a little bit so he put out a a two or three minute web advertisement where he's lauding healthcare workers as American Heroes Cut with images video of of People in face masks and ambulance crews in that kind of thing. Bill I mean. Do you think this is a better tack for him right now than attacking the president which is what he had been doing previously. I do but I still think it's A. He's in kind of a bad position. Look he's in the position sort of of the person who selected to give the rebuttal address after the state of the Union. I mean you have. The president of the United States speaking from the podium of Congress with all three branches of government represented. There's no more powerful image and then the poor guy that's stuck rebutting just look small by comparison and the former vice president stuck in his basement. You know what this confusing equipment that he can't master. I think it's better tone but it's a difficult time for him because whether or not you like. Donald trump or grew with them with the American people see is the president taking command and so forth. And it's very hard to counter that I do think if he wanted to be noticed it'd be less to To Berate Trump I. I don't think the American people are in a mood for just carping and a people who are trying to do something even if they're wrong about the I do think he could. He could show his leadership within the Democratic Party by calling the Democrat Congress to better behavior and more cooperation and so forth. This is a time to put past the politics and do it. I think that would actually make him. Look more like a commander of chief but he. He's in a very you know he's in his basement. He's been very difficult position to command the same kind of respect and attention that the president hasn't that has nothing to do with either Joe Biden himself or Donald Trump himself but just the nature of the position that he's in and Kim. It's hard to know what else he might be able to do. At this point. I mean if he went out somewhere To Detroit and tried to hold a press conference or something he'd be charged with breaching the rules of social distancing And don't forget he's in the age group that is pretty vulnerable to this virus. So what other options does he have? Well actually it was really interesting. He did do something unique and different on Tuesday. Which is I guess. His attempt to continue to try to campaign out in the states even though he can't officially campaign in the states but what he did on Tuesdays he actually endorsed a pair of Wisconsin. School district referendums which is highly unusual for someone to be at the kind of national level running as a presidential candidate to bother with something like a school referendum. But these referendums are in Milwaukee which is Wisconsin's largest school district and racine both are heavily Democratic districts The these referendums were all about getting more dollars for school. So the Milwaukee one was cost taxpayers about eighty seven million. The racine one has about a billion dollars and his argument. Was You know? We need to invest in our public schools and our students. And so I'm supporting these two referendums so this is his way of trying to get some more headlines within the state and a state that by the way he has not yet been able to campaign in at all yet but a state. That's going to matter in the Democratic primary races as we go forward. These are the kind of I don't know what you would call them. Actions that they're having to resort to to to get their name out even in the state yet to decide on a nominee orthodox campaigning. That's interesting Bill How do you? How do you weigh? What the outcomes of that are. That are in play here politically. I mean what's what's been interesting to me. Is that throughout this crisis? President Trump's handling of it has been rated very very well by voters and his overall approval rating has been going up a little bit But it's also notable semi that if you look at the The real clear politics Averaging of polls On the general election trump versus Biden. I mean I know it's early But by not doing too bad. He's currently up average by about six points I mean what do you make of that? The those those numbers moving in tandem. Yeah I don't really make anything of the latter because until campaign starts I think you see a lot of that I remember the polls about Hillary Clinton Saying kind of the same thing. It's it's very abstract until Donald Trump the campaign really begins Donald Trump and the RNC. Every everyone gets full gear and the Democrats getting full gear to attack on the On the ratings of the press conference I think the president has moved a lot from his initial things. He's I mean it's one thing about the bat. Donald Trump if you put aside the noise that always accompanied him just focus on what he does. He often adjusts now. He'll never admit it right. He'll never admit he changed his mind. Or something I mean. I think it's fair to say that he downplayed the virus in the beginning..
"two week" Discussed on WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch
"From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal. This is Potomac. Watch Lloyd House words about a very tough two weeks ahead and president trump calls for a two trillion dollar infrastructure package welcome. I'm Kyle Peterson with the Wall Street Journal sitting in today for Paul Zhigo. We are joined by my colleagues. Kim strassel hillock him. Hi Kyle and Bill mcgurn High Bill High Com so during the corona virus. Press briefing on Tuesday night President trump was solemn Might be the word for it All Rita a few fragments of his opening remarks Our country is in the midst of a great national trial. Success in this fight will require the full absolute measure of our collective strength love and devotion every citizen is being called upon to make sacrifices every business is being asked to fulfil patriotic duty And I want every American to be prepared for the hard days that lie ahead. Kim. That seems like a more subdued to- than we're used to hearing. Yeah and certainly a more subdued tone than last week when the president said. Look. I'd really like this to be over by Easter and we're gonNA open up again. And he was quite honest with what changed that tone which was that. The scientific advisers presented him with a lot of very disturbing evidence about where exactly we are right now. In this curve flattening exercise were doing and the fact that it simply was going to take longer time for The country to get back to a place where it could go back to business and they. They presented those numbers. We got some of those yesterday to which was very heartening to sort of just see that. They know they seem to know what's going on. There is some sort of plan But he was very very open with the fact that we are in the middle of this. And there's going to be a rough couple of weeks coming up the the health experts as you said. They gave an explanation of the modeling that they've been showing to the president. They showed him a bunch of it over the weekend as he was extending those social distancing guidelines to April thirtieth The headline number yesterday being that the virus may kill one hundred thousand to two hundred forty thousand Americans In the health experts best estimate at this point one of the slides that grabbed me bill. was from Deborah burks the Corona Virus Response Coordinator and showed a line graph of the number of cases in all fifty states with New Jersey. Far above the rest as you might expect just hearing the numbers in the news Sorry excuse me New York far above the rest and the New Jersey about halfway down And then everybody else clustered below that and her point was that the need to keep the rest of the states from turning into New York which means staying home. Even if it doesn't look like there's a crisis in your state at any given moment. Yeah I think that I think that's really important because one of the things and looking at the measures on looking at Statistics collected by the international health metrics and Evaluation Center at the University of Washington. And they do a state-by-state breakdown that's very helpful with graphs and one of the things they show it parallels what you said that trump the chart that doctor burks had they show that they're expecting April tenth to be the peak day for deaths in New York. Eight hundred forty five. They're projecting on that day and after that date will go down for New Jersey. It's April ninth so the hope is that The we can. We can flatten the curve. Here to flatten it to flatten it elsewhere. But I think that that's important for another reason. I think one of the frustrations for people is. We're doing all these different things. A lot of states are taking different measures. Different countries are taking different measures. And since we're on the left side of the curve always see is death climbing no matter what steps we take. I think if it does peak if people start seeing it actually coming down that we're on the downslope even though there's still be a lot of people that die and a lot of people that get infected. I think people will be a little more encourage by the steps. We have to take and I again. I go back to You know we might be a little more able to refine the steps. We take who we apply to right. Now we're kind of doing the one-size-fits-all program of everyone sort of stay in place and not work but once once we're on the downslope. I think we might be able to do more with testing and tracing figure out who's immune who might get back to work. What kind of industries might go back and so forth and be a little more refined and I think people would see this is not amendable? You know that that were again making progress and I think people would be more open to some of the measures if they thought it was really having an effect. I I think that's a fair point so even even the the hopeful news out of Tuesday's briefing has doesn't seem to have any specific targets on it so there was a slide That Dr Anthony Fauci discussed Where he's showing the curve in Italy's starting to turn down now that there are three or four weeks into their mitigation measures He says there's little inklings that that The mitigation is working in New York But there's there doesn't seem to be a hard target or of any kind yet at least not that I'm seeing That's being laid out by the White House And there are a lot of people who are who are not in New York interlock farther from the crisis zones One one point to talk about was We mentioned yesterday. The American Enterprise Institute report written by several health experts The one of them being Scott Gottlieb the former FDA the FDA And he suggests some triggers which may be would be helpful one of them being that You know once you have sustained reduction in cases for fourteen days then that might be a trigger to To ease off the distancing Indiana state by state region by region. Basis Maybe Kim do you think it would be useful to have if the White House laid out some kind of targets like that that people could Look toward so yeah. I don't think there's any question that that's going to have to be the way forward. Despite the fact that we have these news cable stations that are constantly showing US cumulative numbers of cases in cumulative numbers of deaths this is always been happening on a state by state basis. And if you look at that report that you mentioned Kyle. They talked about a trigger of having a sustained reduction in cases for fourteen days but also pointing out that a state's going to also need to have the capability in place to test. Everyone was symptoms and to very aggressively jump on anyone who was found to have them and who test positive to go to their context and kind of lock this down so that it doesn't get back out of control again and the report says that it could. Well be the case that even if a state begins to relax social distancing measures if they see a spike again they might have to return to them. So this is going to be kind of state by state on a case by case basis. It's not necessarily going to be one day. You flip a switch and the nation's back on but it would be helpful to get some of this information out of not only think tanks but out of The leaders who are In charge of managing this crisis Just give people a sense of what the What the next step is one sign of the Times. I saw this as a news item. I thought it was interesting. Walmart has announced that. It's going to be doing temperature. Checks on all of its employees when they report to stores or distribution centers I mean that's a huge move. A Walmart I believe is The United States is largest employer about one point. Five million people. Work there I mean bill is that A taste of what the new normal may look like at least until we potentially have a vaccine for this virus. Yeah I think there's it's one of many steps look again I think right now. We've taken a kind of One-size-fits-all approach imposing the lockdown and keeping everyone for work and. Obviously the smarter solution is going to be able to discriminate to identify. Who's a carrier whose immune and so forth? It was interesting. I was talking to a friend from Hong Kong yesterday where I live for ten years. You know very modern place. They had a tough time with SARS. You know years ago. So they don't have a lock down they've banned. They've closed schools big religious services and other big gatherings. But they're they're closer to social distancing and they're using that in public spaces as well so instead of locking everyone down in the can't work they're putting it out in public space. They're doing You just mentioned the temperature and a lot of big buildings. Say have these things kind of like you walk through the airport. That scans you for temperature. Right is not the be all and end all but I think it's something like ninety percent of people that have is get have a temperature. So that's one way of doing it. They're also doing social distancing in the public square so again rather than closing down restaurants you go to a restaurant it'll be open and you can sit there but they'll be a table or to between you and the next Party so. I think as we have more information we might be able to do that. I think right now looking at the models and looking at the peaks for New York New Jersey which again or just about a week out. I think the president is preparing us for some really bad times like before we can get to that point. We're going to have to still climb up that hill and it's going to be. It's going to be brutal and I but I think it might look very different after two weeks if people start seeing that in the two worst cases New York and New Jersey that we've arrested the The increase in. It's starting to go down. Yeah that's true and The temperature checks are aren't a surefire thing. I mean the head of the Centers for Disease Control is now saying that you know maybe up to twenty five percent of the people who have this. Corona virus may not be showing symptoms Which is part of what makes it unusual and particularly liable to spread. But you could still catch seventy five percent. 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"Basically Josh talked me into making one more trip I did before we end and so here we are if you want to get a ticket just go to the west wing weekly dot com slash London using and I wonder whether it would have realistically played out this way they would've insulated the candidate from the whole situation rate I like the plausible deniability press still hasn't done they're digging on him but they will now so really doesn't matter what you do that briefcase it's going to come out consensus is in the White House what happens all hell's congress I really think that brutal thinks that he's doing the right thing and this is not in any kind of way critical hit job in his mind I'm not sure I agree with you I think one of the great aspects of the storyline is that I'm not sure yeah is that a sort of kind of you know I I do think it's possible that he sincerely feels that way and I also think it's possible he's kind of foolish and trying to convince the candidate maybe even himself that really what is looking at for is the electorate and we can't let this guy get into office got with this happens comes out later what's going to happen and I'm not quite sure and I think one of the Nice things about the writing directing and the performance from Ron Silvers I'm not quite sure with every means Internet I'm not even sure he knows yeah and that might be what we're supposed to take from it but my my feeling was because he's endangering his own candidates plausible deniability which is something that an operative wouldn't normally do I don't think it must because he thinks that this is right except that there's maybe a little bit of Cya and these covering themselves by you know you know spiraling in spinning the problem up upward higher than his pay grade so now things fall apart and looks bad and there's trouble or may even legal issues sick well he knew yeah I just pass on the information and he took it from there so there may be an aspect of that it's one of the things I like about the situation in succession where the guy finds out this band that information starts kind of deciding who's expendable to whom he'll try onto whom he'll try to shunt the issue I think one of the things that complicates to is the history and dynamic between these two characters you know Bruno came on having historically done democratic races and is in as an outside of this is a completely different situation than say if it were Josh and President Bartlett or something like that where you absolutely no josh would have just done it and protected the president from it like protection of the president would have been paramount yeah I suspect right although one of the interesting aspects of this whole thing to also has is the initial sweep of the bag that Bruno did I mean to the point of opening up his checkbook and looking through it I mean it's like that that's where it's really dicey it's not like this information didn't hit him over the head he opened up a briefcase he realized what it was and then he forensically examined everything thing in that briefcase yeah he looked for dirt yeah absolutely specifically looking for dirt for sure yeah with with a trained eye andy found which also they made me wonder once you've seen the whole episode did you take Matt Santa's is original concern about the briefcase to be in part because of the checks book that was in there I couldn't tell whether it was just normal concern about hey you lost my stuff I mean there's private stuff they've got a campaign going out or or did you believe you've had the checkbook in mind like I didn't take it that he was thinking of the checkbook specifically it was more just that's all my personal stuff okay 'cause I thought maybe there was an aspect then I think maybe he shouldn't have written maybe shouldn't of log the checks so accurately and maybe he should've pretended that money was going for gum yeah I think there's probably a level of Naievety to Matt Santos that didn't ever imagine that this kind of information would be something that you have to worry about some you know some political opponent getting their hands on and he's just thinking all my stuff is in there well I thought was this if he has a dedicated separate checking and he knows there's something high right yeah and given that maybe shouldn't have logged information so accurately why right the woman's name who can be Google than found and by the way I also think it's interesting that in the ultimate conversation between Vinick and Santos there is at least a germ of a doubt as to whether he's telling the truth that it's his brother's absolutely there is yeah I thought that was kind of brilliant because I I guess I think maybe I had read just description of the opposite I don't usually do this but I think I'd come across a description of the episode before Synopsis Or I don't know I read something that kind of gave away like Oh that's this story line which I had forgotten about and whoever read this synopsis was completely convinced by him so I thought it was going to play out that way and then when I I see what you're saying you're saying there's no doubt even for you oh yeah that there's doubt in the world about this that's interesting clearly vinik wonders yes and I also wondered and maybe it's one percent to ninety nine percent believe in one percent question but it left me enough of doubt the fact that vinick says like it doesn't matter what I believe I found interesting as Vera thought well yeah I mean again I also don't like when you're a hero or you're not here and if you're a hero you gotta believe everything the hero say because swing heroes so although it still hasn't affected me and I'm inclined to believe Santa's when he says something like that but I liked that I walked away from that scene also thinking or maybe it does have a love job yeah well one of the things that I think is so brilliant about this is that it actually doesn't matter like the actual facts of it don't matter and Vinnie doubt in that moment underscores that like that's what's telling us that these are two guys sure they're not friends but I think they have some sense of the others integrity and even in a moment like that one one tells the other this is what the truth is he still doesn't necessarily believe him and it made me think of the an exchange from way back in episode three of the West Wing when Sam says to cj about Laurie CJ I see this is why you're there to help see the error of her ways and there because I like her I'm there because it's there that I'd be of this alcohol or drugs I'm not sleeping with her this isn't tawdry I don't care what it is I care what it looks like I care what it is it's high time y'all spend a little less time looking good and a little more time being good yes yeah I've heard that you know she is not impressed by the moral high ground that he's trying to take and echoed through here because it really doesn't matter what the truth is in terms of the ramifications for the election well unless you upped the argument that you did accept from Bruno if you believe that he thinks the public has a right to know it's kind of to me then then does matter whether he's just doing something of deep integrity and covering for the needs of a child that his brother fathered out of wedlock and has abandoned or if he's doing something that maybe is compromising for president to have as a secret I mean I think it does matter in that sense if you accept the argument like the public is right to know about this kind of thing I mean it doesn't matter in that it's always going to be bad for Santos regardless of what the truth is oh just thinking a negative point I'm saying yeah he's he if this gets out it's going to hurt him regardless of what the truth is because they're going to be some people even if they know what even if he says hey this is the truth Blah Blah Blah take a DNA test all that stuff whatever definitive truth penis that you could try and pull from this situation it's still going to hurt either it's going to hurt him a ton or it's going to hurt him some yes I suspect you're right because this also takes place in another time and ineffectual universe where the president's behavior matters at all right right I of course I had my trump I- moments during this whereas somebody found a checkbook and the is it paid off porn stars with whom he was having adulterous affairs secretly and perhaps illegally and at the populace doesn't get shot but so I have a feeling about this suitcase plot while it is interesting and everything is in some ways I almost didn't need it in this episode there was a lot already going on and I found the whole storyline about you know the strategy and like whether it's a chess match football game just sort of trying to I read the other side's plays and go where they're not gonna go and make the most use out of your resources whether it's money or airtime or the story I found all that stuff so fascinating that in some ways this plotline which is a little bit more maybe see maybe a little bit more successfully it's interesting in some ways felt like I was getting a hundred and twenty five percent of an episode and within one that's a fair tei there was enough tension in the plot chasing each other around the country true that's another interesting aspect of the episode where Josh is like Cyrano debris thing going on and putting his ideas into play without crediting him and maybe don't want to mention that you're talking to Toby Ziegler this moment in American politics but it's interesting it's almost like toby's calling the shots from wherever it is you sitting next to the phone I think it's great that toby has a code named Bob Bob and then later Ah Josh refers to him just as usual suspects party people experienced campaign types and I love the toby has voice in this Josh has always wanted and has never gotten until this moment you know like actually having you know we see the fruits of the Labor I'm going back to toby's apartment that time that toby has come around you know even from within his house arrest and is giving him pointers the way that I think Josh Probably you felt like it should've been you know the two of them working on this together right he's finally got a genuine phone a friend option yeah it's one person who has spent so much time with everybody else there is either a newcomer or somebody who worked below him toby is the first person who who is really his equal I mean he's got Leo there but we don't see Jio in this in this episode but you know just the fights.