20 Episode results for "Two Million Years"
Giant Panda Diets
"I'm hungry. But I can't decide what to eat. Nothing. Sounds good. Does that ever happen to you yell? I know the feeling dying giant pandas have it easy. They just Bambu for breakfast, lunch and dinner and don't give food another thought not these days, but they used to eat all kinds of things you mean millions of years ago right now, scientists found out that as recently as five thousand years ago giant pandas had a much more diverse diet than they do today. It was a surprising fine. Since like, you said we previously thought it's been over two million years since their diet was any different. The researchers looked at copes in the bodies of modern pandas and fossils of ancient pandas to come up with this new date isotopes are atoms of an element that have different numbers of neutrons, heavy isotopes are those with more neutrons than average. And light isotopes are those with fewer neutrons than average foods have different levels of light or heavy isotopes that then get incorporated into the bones hair nails and teeth of the animal that eats them. And by measuring the ratios of heavy to light isotopes in these animals. Scientists can get an idea of the kinds of foods. They eat modern day pandas have a very low heavy to light ratio because of their bamboo only diet, but pans from five thousand years ago had ratios similar to other herbivores implying that like other herbivores they ate of a riot of plants oil either salad. This moment of science comes from Indiana University on the web at a moment of science dot org. Where you can also view videos and sign up for podcasts. I'm Don glass. And I'm yeah. Cassandra?
"Is it possible that there are big prehistoric animals that paleontologists have never discovered of course it is done. The distant past is poorly known and. Paleontologists find fossil evidence for new large animals all the time in two thousand nineteen to American researchers reported discovering the fossil remains of carnivorous mammal larger than a modern lion and even larger than. The prehistoric Sabertooth Tiger it live twenty two million years ago in what's now Africa really. Were they find it. They found it in a museum drawer at the Nairobi National Museum in Kenya how museum drawer it's not as strange. As you might think decades ago a team of paleontologists dug up fossils of its jaw portions of its skull and some other parts of its skeleton but the team was looking for fossils of prehistoric apes so they. Just catalogued it started and forgot it so the modern researchers most of fun something interesting about the fossils that the earlier team didn't they did. They found that the fossil creature was a mammal but not closely related to any modern. Modern Group of mammals it was a member of an extinct group called the hyena dance for forty million years after the extinction of the dinosaurs. They were the dominant group of Mammalian predators in Africa. They all died out when their environment changed the scientists named the Creature Simba Kuba Kotoka Africa since there were apes in Africa back then it's possible that this giant Predator with Canine teeth as big as bananas may have dined.
1245: Fundamental Attribution Error: Why You Make Terrible Life Choices by Nir Eyal of Nir And Far on Empathy
"This is optimal. Living daily episode twelve forty five fundamental attribution error while you make terrible life choices by near a all of near and far dot com. And I'm just a mall, your personal narrator, reading blogs to you mostly sometimes books anything that. I think Welby optimize your life. Today's post being from near a all of near and far near spelled an I R. And like I mentioned yesterday. I'm really excited to see some progress with thirty day challenge this month, if you're on my weekly newsletter you got the notification for that. And then there's been post on Instagram, and in our Facebook group with pictures and progress really awesome to see. Thank you. If you're participating and giving away books random people participating. So if you wanna join make sure you're all my weekly newsletter. The next one will mention it. You can join the newsletter for free at old podcasts dot com for now's get right to it. As we optimize your life. Fundamental attribution error while you make terrible life choices by near a all of near and far dot com. There. I was sitting in a packed movie theater. I waited two years for this sequel, and I've got enough popcorn and diet soda to last me. A full three hours fifteen minutes into the movie the hero and villain are facing off for the first time when a lady burst into the theater trying to find a seat. She awkwardly tries to squeeze into the middle of the row in front of me, blogging, the best part of the movie what a rude and inconsiderate person. I think to myself as I dodge her body when she scuffles by a week later. I'm rushing to catch another film with my friends is pouring rain, and traffic is crazy. I hope I make it before the previews end. But when I reached the theater soaking wet, I might add the movie has already begun to turn on the flashlight on my phone. Find my seat in accidents step on a few movie goers toes, I hear Tut's and loud size is clear. These people think I'm a complete jerk while this isn't my fault. It's raining in the traffic was insane. I think to myself as I take my seat. I'm usually never late the fundamental attribution. Error strikes. Again, the fundamental attribution error is our bias to judge other people differently from how we judge ourselves. It is according to Dr Christina Bestiary, quote, the tendency to believe that what people do reflects who they are and quote for better man for worse. This cognitive bias is takes a few forms the first occurs. When things go poorly when we screw up. We tend to believe things happen because of circumstances outside of our control. However when others fail we tend to think it is the result of poor choices or someone being a bad person. For example. I believe that being laid to the movie was due to the weather something, I can control. However, I didn't give the same afford into the other movie goer who was late. I seem she was a rude person. Despite having no idea what might have made her late the second type of fundamental attribution error occurs. When things go. Well, when we succeed we tend to believe it is the result of our talent and hard work that might be true. However, when others succeed are biased has to make us think that the other person got lucky or was privileged in some way that college friend who made it big in Hollywood or your pal who now reports to the CEO at a fortune five hundred company they were just at the right place at the right time. Right. Why? So judgy what's the deal with our tendency to give ourselves the benefit of the doubt while not doing the same for others firstly, it's hard as he thinks. Clearly when we don't have all the information. We only see a sliver of the world around us when someone else grew up. We see them as the most obvious cause of the problem. We don't see all the things that might also be going on when it comes to our own mistakes were fully aware of the factors outside our control. So we understand the context of why we tripped up on the flipside attributed successes to our awesomeness boosts, our confidence makes us feel good and improves our reputation. Among the people around us turns out that confidence boost can benefit us and may even serve in evolutionary purpose. Researchers believe it may help us take on beneficial risks as we change our perception of what we're capable of for example, a study of unemployed college grads found those who credited their successes to themselves were more likely to find a job than students who tended to blame themselves for failures. The researchers believe students who viewed things in a more self serving way were more motivated and optimistic about their futures. And of an error while the fundamental attribution error has some benefits. It also has a downside when it comes to how we think about others being aware of this tendency can help us put it in its place. He are two ways to make sure the by is doesn't get the best of us number one acknowledged the role of chance have you paused to grasp how many things had to go just right for you to be hearing the sentence right now in the thirteen point eight billion years since the big bang out of the billions of plan is floating around the black abyss of space among countless galaxies two million years of human. Evolution just. Happened insert one special sperm out of millions into one single egg. That made you the odds of winning this cosmic lottery are mind blowing and the best part is you had nothing to do with it. You also happen to be alive in the safest healthiest most well educated. Most equitable time in human history. Sure things are far from perfect in the world. But for the average person now is a whole lot better than any other time in history. Remembering how many things outside of our control how to go. Just right can help us feel more grateful and reminds us of how lucky we are that so many things we had nothing to do with. When just so to same attitude regarding the role chance plays in all our lives can always, cultivate, a more unbiased point of view, number to try some empathy research shows, we are more likely to fall for the fundamental attribution error when we make quick judgments of others. The next time you find yourself critical of someone else's behavior. Blaming who they are. Instead of what they did. Try practicing. Some empathy practicing empathy has been found to reduce the fundamental attribution error. Researchers believe pretending your in the shoes of the person, you are likely to blame makes us kinder and less judgmental. For example, that person who cut you off in traffic might be a jerk or alternatively. Maybe the driver is a woman in labor. Of course, you'll never know. But why not consider it? Anyway, your anger won't change your driving and does nothing because you undue stress before being so quick to judge try coming up with an alternative story behind why someone might behave certain way. It doesn't matter. If the story is a little wacky. You'll likely find a scenario you could potentially see yourself and just humans humans seem to be hardwired to make the fundamental attribution error evolved eight survival by bolstering our confidence and reputation, however in modern society discounted by is can hurt us and others more than it serves us Inc. Causes to lose our cool. Get into more. Trouble because of the repercussions of our anger or ruin our day. If we let it, however, this bias isn't our destiny, there are ways we can fight this tendency and live a happier. More empathetic life. The next time. You catch yourself about to lose your patience or tempted to give someone the stink eye or judge them as a bad person. Remember, they're human just like you give them the benefit of the doubt and put yourself in their shoes. Even if it takes a little effort will all be better off for it. You just listen to the post titled fundamental attribution error while you make terrible life choices by near a y'all of near and far dot com. The jersey. Some great deals trains that go with this post. Check out the original article. I haven't linked in this episode description and at old podcast dot com. And speaking of if you want to participate in some thirty eight challenges have a chance to win some prizes for being part of that come by old podcast dot com. Check out the post about it in the blog or simply joined the weekly newsletter. I give updates and reminders about the thirty day challenges in that newsletter. Gin that's old podcast dot com. And I'll leave it there for today have a great rest of your day. And I'll be back tomorrow. Reading to you where your optimal life awaits.
All The Other Hominins Are Extinct
"Lot of human beings almost sapiens. And I close relatives are called hominids all hominids except us or extinct. They include homo erectus that populated Asia starting one point eight million years ago, homo habemus that appeared about two million years ago in Africa, homo fluorescein, says a tiny three and a half foot tall homonyn that live on floors island in Indonesia than the end of those who appeared more than four hundred thousand years ago in Eurasia and others how come only homo sapiens. Survived yale. Well, many ideas have been suggested about that done in two thousand eighteen to anthropologist mater review of recent data on the geographical dispersal of hominids and found that their analysis supported the theory that homo sapiens, is special because of its ability to adapt to a wider range of environments than any of the others. Former them their analysis of the distribution of known fossils showed that the other species probably had more restricted environmental ranges, although early hominids spread widely into Europe and Asia, their fossils are mostly found in areas that were tropical forests at the time homo. Flora sciences was restricted to one island the knee and earth all spread more widely and hunted large game on the northern Eurasian. Steppes Sylvan home associates spread to wider range of environments than these. Yes. Homa sapiens. Inhabited these areas and many others, including extreme environments like desert's, the Arctic and high altitudes like the Tabet in plateau where fossils of other hominids haven't been found. The researchers called our ancestors generalists specialists because they specialized at being able to adapt to living almost anywhere. More from Indiana University. I'm Don, I NIA Cassandra.
Adam and Eve Are Possible
"Everybody's got to parents but did to parents have us all a new papers challenging the scientific skepticism about Adam and Eve for the call center. I'm John Stonestreet. This is break off repeated claim by skeptics geneticists have disproved the possibility of Adam and eve because existing human genetic diversity is so oh great there can be no original couple from whom all people are descended were that's what we're told. Biology professor and author Dennis Venema summarizes this argument in his Book Adam and the genome in it. He claims every genetic analysis. Estimating ancestral population sizes has agreed that we descend from a population of thousands not a single ancestral couple. While some Christian authors have reacted to this apparent scientific consensus by proposing new ways of reading genesis that make adamant either mythological or not really our first parents. The goal is to accommodate theology and the Bible to what we're told is settled settled science. But what if the science on Adam and Eve isn't so settled. That's the argument of a new paper. By Discovery Institute Senior Fellow and Developmental Biologist and Gallagher and and Swedish mathematician Ola Hoosier recently published in a journal called bio complexity in order to test. Whether it's really is impossible to account for modern variation in human beings by starting with just two people these researchers did something that incredibly no-one had tried before they started with just two people and then ran the numbers using accepted population growth in mutation rates. Gallagher and hoosier programmed a computer to start with a genetic Adam and eve and replicate locate the known distribution of diversity in today's human population their results to put it simply fly in the face of the much-touted consensus according into their motto. A couple who shared some genetic markers could generate all the diversity. We see today within about two million years which Venema and others claimed was impossible however given to people who share no genetic markers in other words to people who weren't born but say were created with four unique sets of chromosomes chromosomes that timeframe drops to a few hundred thousand not millions of years writing at evolution news cowger points out that further tweaks in the rates of population Asian Growth Structure Mortality Bertha mutation could place that theoretical first couple even more recently in our history in any case the authors are careful to note that the point of their paper was not to date Adam and eve or even to prove from genetic standpoint that they existed rather they just wanted to demonstrate that contrary to the off off repeated claim. It's possible for all human beings to have descended from eight original single pair. Of course much more work remains to be done on the question but the paper has served to clarify two things. First the assumptions about the past that scientists bring to the research change their results as gallagher explains once our limitations in computing power. Were overcome. This experiment was an obvious way to test existing Dogma on human origins but as she put put it no one bothered because they believe that starting from two was useless in fact many researchers failed to use standard methods of modelling population genetics because of baked in evolutionary assumptions for example one popular tool relies on comparisons between human and chimpanzee DNA to track mutations wants something Gaga points out is useless if we don't share a common ancestor with chimps second and more importantly this paper hints at how tentatives so-called settled science can be Christian to rush to revise their understanding of characters like Adam and eve in order to make way for the latest consensus. I should think more about the theological consensus. They're tinkering with like the fall. The image of God original sin creation etc and. They should also consider all the unthinkable. They may have to do one day. When the scientific consensus changes for breakpoint on Johnston?
"Hello. I'm Deepak Chopra and this is now for tomorrow. A collection actions you can do now during this time of disruption and crisis. To. Make. Tomorrow, better. Than today I want to take a moment to help things -iety in a time of crisis. The current pandemic of the covid nineteen. Has brought in its wake a different pandemic of anxiety and uncertainty. Sigmund Freud said that things -iety is like an unwelcome guest that refuses to leave. You are forced to adapt to its presence. How do people usually adapt to feel Psychologically. The do most important with are denied and distraction. By knowing your anxiety or doing something that takes your mind off it. You might find temporary relief. But is this something more permanent and effective? Can you get this unwelcome guests to leave? Yes, you can. The secret is to make conscious choices that goes feel to shrink away because you no longer needed. Fear is a holdover from early evolution rooted in the fight or flight response. It lies in wait. Ready to spring into action as it did for Hamad ancestors. Over two million years ago. But for the last ten, thousand years. The higher or conscious breed has evolved. And with it came infinite resources of thought. Feeling. Creativity and choice making. We were set free from primal fear. All we have to do is choose the bottom of consciousness. which is the bottom of inner wisdom. This is a theme I would be returning to over and over. Because the true secret making tomorrow better than today. is to, choose to, wake up. To make the right choices you need to be conscious of what fear is doing to. Fear is a form of stress. And you can choose to release that stress. That's where today's homework gums. You need nothing this homework except yourself. And comfortable place to lie down. Once, you're lying down comfortably on the carpet or a Yoga Mat. I'll offer an effective and very simple yoga pose known as Shabas. Where you simply lie still. REAP. And consciously relax. Lying on your back. Place your feet eighteen inches apart with your arms at your side bombs up. Close. Your eyes. Settle into the position. And breed naturally. Put your attention on your bread feeling your jest rise and fall. On the out bet, let your lungs deflate with this guy. EASILY BREATHING Then exile with the CY. Feel yourself becoming deeply relaxed. And continue for five to ten minutes. Now think into this relaxed feeling. To, exit the bows. Don't just get up quickly or go into activity. Easily turn and stretch has if you will waking up in the morning. Open, and close your hands. Then Open your eyes and get up without moving quickly into activity. You are relaxed and in control. Remember this feeling. Later in the day, if fear anxiety comes back tap into this feeling of es and relaxation. Let's broaden the discussion a little bit. Modern Life makes room for many words but very few in what's. A stock fact in Morton life is that more money power status position don't bring inert fulfillment. In fulfillment is found along a different path. In the ancient wisdom traditions of India life presented to butts. The birth of pleasure and the but the wisdom. Every wisdom tradition east and West is based on waking up, which means in practice getting over your unconscious behavior and adopting conscious behavior instead. You're already doing that in our discussion of how fuel works. You are waking up to discover that fear doesn't have to be in charge. You might not think of this as. Budget. Tips. Every moment of inner wisdom is simply a moment of becoming more conscious and aware. I encourage all of you to try Shabas now. Taking five to ten minutes to read out stress and breeding relaxed. May Not seem like much. But such small steps will help you reassert control over your personal reality lessening the grip of fear and uncertainty. I'm the Jobra. Be. Well my friends. Now for tomorrow is produced by Jesse Baker and Eric Newsroom of magnificent noise for religion of sports. Our production staff includes Schloss. Men Nor was was and George Brown.
The Discovery of Fire
"When we think of what made human beings into human beings. One of the first things we come up with is the discovery of fire. The control of USA fire is one of the earliest things which our ancestors did, which separated us from other apes and began us on the path to becoming modern podcast listening human beings. Learn more about how humans came to US fire on this episode of everything? Everywhere. Daily. This episode is sponsored by audible DOT com. The audiobook which I would highly recommend on the subject of fire in early humans is catching fire. How cooking made us human by Richard Wayne Graham. In the book Wangara makes argument that it was cooking food over a fire, which actually made us human cooking allowed humans to evolve larger brains and smaller guts because fire allowed us to perform digestive functions outside of our bodies. You can get a free one-month trial to audible. audiobooks by going to audible trial, dot com slash everything everywhere or by clicking on the link in the show notes. Before we start there are a few things that need to be clarified. I is that humans didn't discover fire any more than we discovered rocks and trees fire was around before humans. So the discovery of fire would probably just have been whoever we defined to be the first human being. There was no first caveman who had a Eureka moment when fire was discovered. What we are really interested in our questions about when people began to use fire harnessed fire and eventually create fire. Second is that when we go back this foreign time, the evidence becomes very sketchy. Organic objects don't tend to preserve very well, and the odds at any living thing should be preserved as A. Is. Very. Very rare. Much of what we know is based on creating a narrative that fits the available facts and the facts are changing all the time as we make new discoveries. Third Pinning down exactly when we became human isn't easy for the purposes of this episode, I'm going to use human to refer to both modern Homo sapiens and all related hominem species, which may or may not have been our ancestors. So Homo Habilis, Homo Erectus and Homo. Heidelberg INTAS will all be considered human for the purposes of this episode even though they may not quite look like you or me they are all members of the genus Homo, income after the likes of Australopithecus. That being said, we can confidently put the use of fire by humans as late as four hundred, thousand years ago. This evidence comes from the Kessum Cave in Israel here they found a plethora of evidence indicating charred bones, hearth, and a layer of ash. This is important because it sets a lower boundary for when we can be certain that human beings were using fire. Also, the context of this evidence is important trees and grass don't grow deep inside cave if there's evidence of fire especially repeated fires over a long period, it had to have been set purposefully. Cinders and bones found in the middle of a field might have just come from brushfire and not from intentional usage afire. Just because this is the most concrete evidence we have doesn't mean that humans weren't using firefox earlier. We just haven't found the same type of evidence yet. If we look at the end of the spectrum, the latest estimates for when humans may have started to use fire is anywhere from one point seven to two million years ago. And yes. A range of four, hundred, thousand versus two million is a very big difference. Some evidence for this country comes from the wonder work cave in. South Africa. They found evidence of fire deep in the cave, which most probably couldn't have gotten there from a naturally occurring fire. They also found evidence of ash in the same layer where stone tools were also found, but they didn't find any charring on the tools themselves. Other evidence that provides an even older date comes from open air sites in Europe and Asia, which can't be assertiveness cave sites as fires have occurred naturally. While physical evidence a fire is really the best evidence we can have. It's also very hard to find, and even if it is found, there can be conflicting factors like the fact that if I could be natural that makes the evidence less compelling. There's other evidence that is out there even if it isn't as direct. Previously up in the advertisement I mentioned the book by Richard Wayne Graham Wayne Graham is an anthropologist and a primatology from Harvard who has the bodies of other primates and humans hypothesis is that the evolutionary changes in the human body can be explained via the use of fire There were two big changes to the human form which changed as we evolved from Australopithecus to Homo Erectus and eventually homo sapiens our brains got bigger and our got smaller. The human brain consumes an enormous amount of energy. It requires energy and nutrient rich food. The process began over three million years ago as early ancestors started to eat meat. The body also has only so much energy to expand on its various systems and Oregon's less energy going to one system can mean more energy going somewhere else. This is known as the expensive tissue hypothesis. In the case of humans are digestive tracts shortened as our brains grew. Compared to other primates such as guerrillas humans have almost no se- come anymore the human appendix considered by many to be vestigial organ and many people have had theirs removed without consequence. The mouth of human is far smaller than that of a chimpanzee and humans do not have large teeth. What does all of this have to do with fire? Fire or more importantly, cooking food with fire can be thought of as part of the digestive process. A digestive system is designed to physically and chemically break down food. This is the same thing that cooking food with fire does. If you can cook your food. You don't need to devote as much energy to developing a long an energetically expensive digestive system. You can get more bioavailable nutrients and energy from cooked food. Then can from raw food where all the chemical and physical breakdowns have to occur inside your body. In addition to the digestive component using fire also expanded the available food sources which humans could use. Their many foods, especially, tubers which require cooking to make them safe for human consumption foods like cassava needs cooked to transform it into an edible product. Most primates have a very narrow range of food that they consume and thus very limited habitat where they can live. The use of fire allowed humans to vastly extend that range and to migrate to every region on Earth. That is why every single culture tribe or civilisation. which has ever been found uses fire and cooks food. Even in you, it's in the far north who have very little in the way of wood for cooking. Will you seal and whale fat for fires to Cook Food? Looking at it, this way harnessing fire wasn't a result of human intelligence fire was the reason why humans became intelligent in the first place. Putting what we know and what we can hypothesize into a single narrative it might go something like this. Very early human ancestors probably going back to Australopithecus over two million years ago probably came across a natural bushfire somewhere in Africa. There, they found him dead animals and scavenged the remains they liked it. It was easy food and they look for more fires where they could scavenge more cooked food. Eventually one of them picked up a burning stick and used to create a new brushfire so they could get more food. Eventually they realized, they could get burnt food without a brushfire. If they carry this fire around, they could just start a fire to cook a dead animal they found and eventually they could hunt their food. Carrying around this fire known as a firebrand was very important and if the fire ever went out, they would have to fire somewhere else either from another tribe or from another natural fire. Eventually, and we don't know when but the guesses at the humans in Kasim. K. Four hundred years ago had figured this out humans learn how to create fire from scratch. This was the game changer as it allowed humans to Rome farther without having to always bring fire with them. Eventually, fire became the basis for things such as pottery and other technology and tools which humans created. Saw The question of exactly when human started harness fires a pretty open ended question and probably always will be. What. Isn't in doubt is the importance that fire had to the evolution and development of modern humanity. Executive producer of everything everywhere daily is James Makhala. Just a quick programming note I've been getting behind shows this week and this was all a cascading problem from over a month ago when I moved and I got a day behind and I've been working behind ever since. I decided that the best thing to do would be to take a Mulligan this week and start dating shows again to the date that they're actually released. If you're listening to this in the future none of this is really relevant because the total number of shows will still be the same. Also, this is my seventy fifth show having started this two and a half months ago I've had a lot of fun recording and look forward to doing many more episodes.
Preview: Velvets Edge with Kelly Henderson: Dierks Bentley
"Hey it's kelly henderson thanks so much for checking out the bobby bones show replay podcast this is a preview of my podcast velvets edge with kelly henderson where i tap into the fashion beauty travel in lifestyle section of my website velvets edge also also known as nashville's cool girl's guide x y z i also love the have real honest conversations with my guest and give you a look at the industry in nashville beyond through that lens on this episode you'll hear from my longtime client and friend dirks bentley as we navigate his journey to being one of country music's biggest superstars how he balances that with his family life and more about the guy behind the name and the shows in the road life did you guys know that darks isn't his real first name find out it is by subscribing on apple podcast listen on iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcasts kashi dribble mean podcast gives you trouble just about and i never watch what i say so and i never go back and listen to but yeah you just never know where you're gonna is this like unfiltered dirks bentley whereabouts yet you've had a lot on filtered over the years a lot of unfiltered filtered all they're doing is added authored that's a that's that's band level on filtering a you know about but nonetheless talk pretty pretty pretty unfiltered yeah let's see what happens every interview i do like these papers the radio i never like something off limits so i don't exist suit was ever in my mind much too much sugar and later on but yeah let's let's dig into it this is it ended up being my by the way podcast why now why do you ask me that i feel like i could have been like one could have been number one number one but that was it was a rough time he had album really yeah it was the only one to see they wanna they wanna tape us on tv doing this very very cavalier yeah of course they did why wouldn't they that's interesting it's fascinating i know the shows amazing also did you wanna see kind of what the podcast is gonna be bum no worries you know you i honestly you know i'm a total of all the time and they get a start shaquille o'neal podcasts yeah that was renting now kind of have re book the rules and then i dunno just the tv taping thing the album's coming out i'll just kind of like yeah i think i've just been in been doing some looking some tv stuff i just kind of like i dunno the tv thing but i threw me off that was a big one yeah well good show very cavalier later on the show i hung out with their night we were all hanging out theo james with the whiskey row and why it's a after my concert okay a source code v buddies sylvia soon to be reality star to ryan announcing jay cutler ever thought he would be one so you never know that's the greatest just does not fit the mold loon that when amazon googling i kind of liked to do research 'cause obviously i've known you for almost ten years of research on yet i mean i feel like i know everything about you you probably do interviews for you literally sexually kelly speaking information only one in the room right now that i well i go back in because i'm like there's gotta be stuff i don't know or i look very different angle because i need you know what people would think what's interesting about you and the first thing that comes up of course his attorney fits really frederick yeah you always go by derek fred house in a dark said my mom named assault like we were like a family name first actually both the names of family names but like that's my grandfather's name is frederick and then are middle names what we go by so my sister's catherine vanessa but right now okay there's new member of the early got the short in the sky sox red was bad my brother's name is newell what is that now w e l l news at grandfather's name to so a he has that side goes by five which is that's my dad's family name so that's a cool names pretty messed up yeah fred bentley would not have the same ring to retire you know i wanna go off and hot in hideout be unknown obscure 'em i'll pick up fred fred in the mountains i could see that v yeah okay so obviously people nicely no you for country music so we talk a little bit about that on i do wanna know like i'm not gonna break down every song her album or anything like that because you could just google that but we tell people a little bit about how you got start yeah 'em i released start with you know i listen the country's my dad but what i what i love that country music means it's it's really been like my own journey my dad listened to it and we loved listening to together the car and it was kind of his music i don't mind it i liked it 'cause my dad liked it but it wasn't a lick my necessarily like my my thing when i turned thirteen in discovered electric guitar definitely wasn't my thing i just listened any more country music at all still i take my dad liked it news you know kind of like older people's music and all that and then when i was seventeen i went through all sorts of basis to like between thirteen seventy in the deep into like heavy metal and playing a lot of power chords on electric guitar but not when i turned seventeen i had this moment it's about a couple of my life where it's just you know like i don't know how to describe it like a coin going on a slot machine hitting all the right levers where i just heard this a friend of mine stopped me in plymouth saint junior song and it just i knew exactly what i was like i wanna do the rest of my life is crazy seventeen i remember like sitting down under chairman like whoa that's it that's the sound that been like looking for and it was so different than my dad's country musicals hank junior you know screaming electric guitars and he's thinking about naked women and beer and seventeen going yeah this is a fan eight country music wow i wanna do this and so then i got unlike writes me from that moment on that day i probably listen i know listen the marty stuart song called that's country in sorted listen dwight yoakam alan jackson i mean it could not get enough the early continues to this day ammos digging digging deeper you know going back and music anyway so i moved out to nashville nineteen school year vermont and i did the best i could transfer sir to vanderbilt and the same friend attorney on a country music he was going school here as family gone to school here in definitely a burger recommendation helmet getting some migrants were terrible but i gotta end the day i got here i got a job at the scene may in turning you offer free work in the country music association worked all over town temping organizations i attempt everywhere just turn learning that make that work and it was all over lower broadway this the band's playing out his writing songs of people and it's like eight nine years long story but i had a good go lower broadway such a long story but you know let's just say after eight to nine years of moving here i got up a publishing deal and that will director do but and it started with publishing decided this is what i wanna do how do you think kids you talked about the mail room i feel like you've told me a story used to be an extra videos like you might you know what i'm trying to be around it as much as possible right yeah i mean i have a plot all the cubs since about something to quote from a of herbert hoover the president's it's about nothing takes the place of a persistent sir determination right you'd be education won't talent mon genius no won't persistence and determination or amid omnipotent and just talks about that's been my whole thing is just like there's a lot better singers me out there a lot better song writers out there the main i think everyone the town's butter guitar player the me but i just i worked harder you know nothing that's the reason why and i got lucky but i you know i had the about a phd system i play backyard yard barbecues and crawfish boils and tailgate parties and weddings and so many times without a phd is playing against the wall no one's even burs blended in with the wallpaper and i was also working to make money sauce as a phd on a i worked for the national network infer cmt in the house when the people backstage with award shows with the headset mike on in the hour these terrible terrible reality tv show where these like three girls kind of get one guy noticing your georgia's good this homeless bad it was a it was so fast like this three girls were competing for this one guy i can't think of name like eliminator something like that bad version of the bachelor like a kind kinda like a like a tennessee vert yeah yeah that is an extra shot on antioch knock the male version gets astronaut not las angeles but lower lower out antioch version of this thing yeah which is so it was just the way the guy's talking the girls so it was just maybe uncomfortable i had a walk off the set i lost a missed out of a hundred dollar payday that day but a little sore all sorts of crazy jobs destroy the kind of stay in the game long enough to get my my craft going that is kind of how nashville works are that's how it's been for me to its once you get in and just get around day eat meat one person and that person connex teach in there yeah it's the greatest lesson unlike this door closes in your face he thinks like the one those meant to be you know i remember playing the bluebird soandso's supposed to show up and it is a it wasn't these blooberg asia addition formed the monday night one shift addition form and then they gave you a letter saying hey in six months you could if you made it who may have fled mind like six months is crazy and i did and that's my big night down there in this gotta show up and it's like oh well there goes my whole career you know it's you learn like there's just you have to keep just keep like staying around meeting people and and for me it wasn't so much about like a work thing her business things just 'cause i love doing it i love being with us in the band's i love you know being ascap running solve my fellow unsigned writers and i love being around the business knows temping off ramps that staffing organization so it was just you know i never really was worried or anything so i just i didn't know anything what else do we was doing and so it goes you know there's obviously low moments but i feel it goes like in the in in nashville tennessee in those photos and hunting deer living so would you if someone i'm sure you get asked this question time bad if you were gonna say what's the key to your success it's just obviously persistence yeah if it's if you do if the right reasons obviously what do you mean by that water that's like saying 'cause he loves saying you know the not because you wanna be on the house engineer 'cause you love mixing songs be a modern jerks he loved being close the stage and working bands whatever you're doing make sure doing 'cause you love to do it and that's the case and you'll be able to forever you know i i was i i was down lower broadway and i was there and john nichols got signed and i'm still playing the bars and those kind of bump some my shop wellm got another set so here we go is funny i i love what i was doing in the if you have that love it makes the persistence and the determination lot easier a nose 'cause i just really love what you're doing with their any one person not taught you that or did you just did you look at anyone else's career and see them doing that are you just naturally did that i credit everything just do a crazy just love of country music yeah i love it when i moved down here i moved here knocked b star i moved here to find the source of this thing that i love so much and i remember getting here being grow and seeing everyone kind of dress like garth brooks and i don't dress that way kind of like dang and only dress the way i love this music but i don't really where the start sprinklers in the you know just street the line down the line in front of their anguish of the line pressed right in there and the belt buckles everyone's is gonna guard you know not disabled is trying to be like garth but it was kind of like he's had a huge moment right now look man and i think that's not but then i found people were writing their own songs now such a revelation demand mike white like i'm looking for like this authentically like john rose music and the the source of this river music that i love so much and like these kind of like it feels like you're kind of dressed in a certain way that's what they're supposed to do maybe the writing these songs because they're not writing songs and which i you know i have total respect now for some writers in the community by the time i thought just i didn't realize that's how it works right up at me off so for me hey i need it which is i feel lucky that had this like inner a kind of muse guiding me towards china find this thing which i found in bluegrass a the same year i moved down here 'em ninety four now that night ninety five so it wasn't like a year to be not are discovered the station in kind of found what i'm looking for and so i guess those people kind of taught me about doing it's the love doing it 'cause that's why you don't play bluegrass make money eight of us it's not that kind of success no you do so perkins right well let's talk about what makes a good song because i do think it's like you get this recor deal you this publishing deal and then all of a sudden like the real work actually starts to like that's not the end of the road so you have to create all these amazing song why do you think certain songs work and certain ones don't make as we've always talked about that if the ones that like when you're album don't do well in yeah yeah well it's funny because that's like the song the mountain talks about you know when you're just anything against the top there's laws and their peak business is all about like you get to the top one thing and then you you start all over again right yeah you get a publishing deal and it's like oh i'm a ground zero recor deal on the ground zero you fight to get you headliner first gig at a club but it's like oh there's bigger venues like theaters and eventually arena so it's all about this like 'em constantly climbing but i guess it's that's the thing that makes it music songs you try like when i make a wrecker then someone asked me about it like it's called music i can't it's not math i can't describe the recordtying if you've listened to internalize and you tell me what you think i if i could just like no quantify it and be a totally different they wouldn't be music so it's like what makes it songs especially 'cause nobody knows stock market her someone's like you can't keep hearing about technology that's coming along scratch actually like be a little like predict hit song based on like some sort of crazy algorithm or something which sounds so sexy it's terrible like computers society what you need to listen to but i'm sure it's already happening but i think that's what's so cool about solves nobody knows the song he thinks like really slow and you look like strawberry wind you know dan carter is like the song never work right massive hitter you just never know what's so cool about songs but what i have learned you know we're just talking earlier about people not right intro music about three three albums in i really should just start leaning on the national songwriting accumulating a lot more than i was 'cause i was trying everything and i don't if you're gonna pick hits you know it's not a guarantee but you're gonna have a lot better chance of success you know picking sauce and writers that are doing it every day and other pencils sharp they got their ears of the you know those the grindstone they're they're listening the the polls their finger on pulsa nashville and what's working so definitely a rely heavily on on those folks whether a co writing her or just you know using their songs 'em they they have the best idea but hit us 'cause i don't mind their hits i didn't think were hits until they became it seemed like drunk temporarily yeah so if you're up it's all it's gonna take me i do my buddy john johnson is like a redneck still fly little gray pretty big super attach i've heard i mean i could answer this question very this is one of them you get asked a lot but how do you just throw a song out there and not get super attached to people loving it or it being a number one song or does that matter did you dear feelings get hurt if it's not like what did that feel like yeah it's a great question i mean like the very first thing i thought it was i thinking you know the day got released and just done like a ninety radio station visit over four months in my hometown stations have the song right and phoenix and i was like so angry as pissed off like i don't watch it really understand the business of it at the time and now i don't really get i really don't take offense to someone adding nine songs there's so many factors involved and and you know it's i i've been lucky the most i worked there lurking label and get a better shot the most do i think ambient guy to a better shot the most having song have a chance having success but i don't take anything personally only at all when it comes to like a song being player not being played anymore maybe i could say that because i had some success the kind of leaned back on but it's it's not a it's not over yet who's really personal reasons that movie only the brave all that movie like i wanna ask josh brolin like how do you move on from a movie 'cause i'm moving into very well which is crazy because it's so good hours so invested in that song the movie came out and papers that like it's now hadn't done well and i was like it still hurts me now still i just wonder bracelet just took off yesterday about the those nineteen hotshot firefighters say i still keep in touch all those families and so that movie like that hurt that moving into is well not from it will head up through my personal success so i would just like all in on this story navy so personal millions of people i know and like you know i don't know how steel on demand or or you know secondary markets but that crushed me i dunno actors move on from like a project like that because you you know it hurts i guess i've been lucky amounts of debris well the mountain and not doing well that would have like really hurt overall like the only person on yeah that'd be like a you know yeah but as far as like things you can't control i mean like award shows and i don't wanna throw that out and you can't control that stuff so you drivers are so crazy and it's just kind of dumping a focus on c you just feel like i mean let's just be honest you're basically this isn't let you get country music i am i mean hey at least i already know she was and she hadn't lost never well here you go a little rain i think the one award at the flame worthy award that jake one in two thousand three for a desk appearance and i got my red rocks i don't have any we have a lot of like awards round because i haven't won many i no avoiding a few things but not not a lot of phone do you not get disappointed i mean how much does that way into you're validation that you're doing something right if you win it validates you entire career right right you lose it's all politics healthiest would look at it now it i mean this sounds like such a stock answer but if you just think about her second it's such a it's the kind of bizarre thing like voting on a song song and you know we all those goes on like hey so these people they they're so worried about this person a lot of block voting happens when i mean if you will it's it's awesome winning the people at winter totally deserving in and they should be in a it's it's awesome some and just to be in that room and be nominated is is is crazy awesome is far salvation goes i mean you got a microphone on stage every night and people spend all this money to come out and see i mean like think about the money goes in coming seeing a show i look out there i don't like to see a massive people i see like individual people and i you know i know from personal experience going through showed up with a pain in his in gotta get a babysitter the money in the parking the teachers and the drinks and eight dollar beers and it's like that's pretty good validation that you're doing something right have some good stuff there button come see you know you get every weekend every weekend like they're still come to town i love it i'm like man it's nine thirty at anytime so so over something about fear shows like the ultimate validation to me do you feel like that helps you because i feel like you still have this passion for music aspect of it but this is a business yeah so do you feel like that helps you if you ever get bogged down which just like all hashing totally ajab oh man i never did it feels like it's just a job i would like i'd be done so fast i would say like be like a nascar driver that's just kind of out there so other people can go round up you know it's like i have no desire and doing that that'd be i would be i would definitely just hanging out 'cause that's just a waste of everybody's time and that's like that's not good for me not give her my band not good for the fans you know suffer me and i talked to guys the bad about all time it's like every night feels like i'm learning something do you know learn some new physically about the way i'm moving know and a lot of dance moves anything but like it's this way i interpreted as well if you count the high country nights i have a lot but the dog has a lot more moves and i did but i just find we saw makes move physically onstage the way of seeing something the way i find a new way to connect to somebody and i always feel like every show is just a little bit better but there's more growth with every show and i talked to the guys in the band they might not be like a front singing resolve they're trying things behind me they're going for stuff they're they're they're they're engaged in that is it could never just feel like a show like were not up there to go put on a show it's like it has to be some sort of like growth a learning process and has some gold getting better not necessarily getting bigger and playing biggest shows and have more people come out which is always awesome but you said the main focus is just like oh he's being a student i'm a student of of leads singers and how did the best sleep singer learn how to interpret my sauce old songs on making feel current how to make connect people would say leading into them were physically go onstage may leave the stage maybe bring somebody up on stage so it's just that is what makes me makes it interesting and fun in in in a in keeps me moving on and you know and making albums to i'm just kind of starting thing about maybe another album and it's really fun 'cause i feel like you kind of adopt a character you know you could go inside yourself and see like what part of used like kind of speaking the loudest and you know it's riser knocks have been born and those kind of new twist in album black cast and i've been married for ten years that was interesting obviously the mountain there's a lot of my interview is going towards thinking about the west and maybe moving out there so i'm kind of looking forward exploring the next thing but i was actually gonna bring that up next i feel like you're albums even since i've worked at you are always pretty attached to where you are in life you know you mentioned knoxville's also you're a dad passing and then you yeah yeah and then cast and then the mountainous so much more than just living out west to me it's like well so like it's where i'm from yeah i will be this is a big part of who i am and then seventeen in you pam yeah i feel like with that one too it's the most comfortable i've been like and i feel it's just like the stage the album's is saying where it's like any more and more comfortable trying stuff going through stuff yeah a reaching for songs you know i feel like sausage not necessarily made it big in what they become me which is kind of a weird thing but most run like a girl in that regard to be on the mound feels like the most definitely everyone says it's the most personal album but it's definitely the most like i just so from top to bottom like truly like really extra authentic about a you know who i am and in that that side of me that a the way not just physically the mountains of west but just the song living which kind of the cornerstone the album it kind of has like a lot of my current attitude in in views on life and in my experience in the album so there's a lot going on there how do you feel like you've changed through the years with their there you're like what you just mentioned i mean it's a totally different mentality i feel like there was such a driver type just chasing everything at the beginning and now you're getting this place where you're you've got a whole new level of success so what did that feel like like you've you've worked so hard to get here in in some ways now you're here what does that feel like yeah i mean i think all my albums and all my career or really closely marrying like kind of where i'm in my personal life you know i think that's so a big part of it i'm not i i i'm not making albums kind of go back and talk a lot about i'm trying not to make a write songs they they kinda tapped back in style gender or like the way this idea reducing the this i don't do anymore you know i'm not gonna i i don't i can't like i'm not gonna go rivals i think and again you know how am i doing has not leaving land anyway i'm but you know what i mean like i know those hits is like i got are sort of like like who i am now when i get up in the sauna the really it's a huge hit but also like like so authentically lemonade men like burning man like living these three songs right now like it's like a almost a joke there they were that stuff that's so one hundred percent me not necessarily like down the road country radio or or country lifestyle it all they work is a is is like that's the best feeling it all doing traveling light on the ac brandi carlile it's like so like i'm kind of getting a cheat the system a little bit you know my getting a i don't to play the game at this point i kind of put out songs like so mean and so passionate important the main in a and see them work so that's been in every every also kind of a snapshot of where i am and i feel like now i'm just not you know i'm i'm really there's a a lot of wisdom becomes from me has come my forties and i feel like i'm getting the chance to apply that with more and more brave way on on these albums would you describe yourself as satisfied is that what it feels like i feel satisfied at times but not like well i feel like and now they're not content that makes sense right i still like after we achieved more than i ever dreamed of you know like i i play massive square garden those like somebody one so bad but the name dared dream its enemies i wouldn't be so disappointed would never happen right as like she's never gonna happen so they just don't injuring one so sell that as is ridiculous also playing like hometown showed here in nashville like couple times now that's like i just never thought they would actually happen in other things at the music festival seven picks all that stuff i mean there's these things have happened there beyond what i could dream that if the if it ended now it would be fine 'em but they're still like this crazy firing me like this last run those really hard nosed fried after mid this canadian the midwest ron hauser's like needed a break so bad but as like watching my ten and eight year old do like children's theatre i just feel like that it's like a shark taste smelling blood on my guy cannot which came back to my thing like i'm just like it's such a cool yeah like i appreciate what they're doing which is like being on stage and again to perform in front of people and experiences like it's still really a it's really fun for me i just a so it's like here i'm watching them i'm thinking about like you know toledo ohio i'm gonna come in so hot i can't wait a minute destroyed a so still there but yeah i you know there's there's there's a lot going on the famous up to so there's i will be doing if it wasn't like a super a super fun right now for me because you know i have these kids they're so fun to hang out with some do stuff with it and it's busy weekends are busy so it's definitely sacrifice you out do that but well so i i wouldn't do it but it does feel like really love it well let's talk a little bit about your family live since you were at you keep it pretty proud of that why is that is that scoffing tillis jack's deleted it's the facebook and twitter off my phone and going major major your current i'd say skeet alive variety like everything you do except a relationship so that's actually frowned upon and everything else i think varieties like the key right i mean i think one of the reasons why don't do the podcast what you to begin with is because i wanna have i think the major reasons because one of the honest conversation yeah and i was really into like not any meet you at any they're not drinking seeing note using a flip phone owes like way hardcore that period in my life and i wasn't really comfortable like talking about that and album coming out and people like well especially media ain't gonna be hiring i don't care in church as we went to go see you to play and also the the slapped a party in caleb follows their firm kingsley on in in a in a little bit towns are who i love and i wasn't drinking you know this is just this semester on last year in us kind of gives some shit for then as time karen i said i am action i didn't need either and she starts laughing because you can't be a country singer and about eating meat like drinking not like a that's more like an email album nine oh you know but it was just something that's like do it this long you have to like throw in life in general you just have like you gotta switch things up i mean i know people ask what your favorite vinnie deplace like it's the variety if i played like madison square garden every night it would get old after a couple you know it's just changing up never know what you're getting into and i think like longevity standpoint health standpoint and not just like i wanna be healthy like going on stage and being optimal like being giving my audience peak energy every night have to like very up insides as well is like what outside rights like this you cannot eat the same food over and over again it's just like are diet is so we're we're humans have been around for like you know two million years even huma homo sapiens were seventy thousand years up until like you know six thousand years ago we ate everything now we just see like we you know you have to like find what a very happy food is you're gonna be so it's not gonna be a good situation so now it's just constant stuff last year but this year it's like the exact opposite it's like you're drinking heavily eating anything everything i want to not working out not getting up early not doing the cult punches being back on my phone but i'm really happy for a little while but certainly kind of rain it back in a little now the food but to embarrass the food things go to tommy di just inserting a lot more vegetables in general but ashley this year i'm gonna like i'm like i'm gonna go i'm planning my my deer hunt in the fall some level while i'm you to like so i'm going full opposite direction this year it's amazing yeah full i'm totally embraced independently laying out about this a yeah they do 'cause i'm like are they support as though totally there we're like such are are group is like such a macho group it's crazy like when we one person's concerts which we got it right we all try that tractor sick of being a diet at least and then and then we i remember one night we were playing somewhere and i was so damn hungry in there and have these huge huge like out in organizing is a huge bone with a piece of meat on i wasn't turkey like it's like it's like crazy like buffalo river something and i was like crap to ran back the bus i walked on anything or anyone other cassie fees their there was no wrong on one he would like most hardcore brother died of any of us like to what he's like protein like me to like we've all come off it now were all backed eating meat in in talking about and you were going the exact opposite direction this year but yeah i'm like i don't know my family grew up my dad hunted birds and stuff but that's how i was born he was fifteen he gives us over at so i had the influence grown up but i recently got some land out west of town like just you know you're out there you appreciate the landing sir appreciate in the water and the animals and lifestyle it's like i'm just getting really into that right now so fascinating as if as if the gun range yesterday was only at last year and look like rational armory shooting of a couple of pistols i got i mean you guys keep us saying i'll give you that i won't bring a gun control this sensitive topic posted some of my friend in just a fun i give give a buddy of mine a little good on you for being passionate about something and i don't i don't really i still know what the fall out was i know people were just freaked out i don't i hardly use instagram at all i mean when i do emmys instagram now and i recommend this book anybody digital minimalism it's a great book but just you know you're you're time as equals their money and if you don't if you find times you live become take a little break from it you know just do a permit talking about so personally i got i'm just so bad when i'm on the road yeah you know what the roads like equalizer we have their homes all day long on all day long there's no living right and we're back here nashville you had her life you routines dangerous stuff okay you kinda like balance it but when you're on the road it's just kind of dark you away from family way from friends you're way from nature and wonderful times i had like find a way to kind of balance out on the roads for me it was kind of taking off my phone do it on my computer so so i'm kinda like or my acting denies my i've had already called that speak i've has to be a little more intentional about 'cause i i'm just i'm just battling it out there but anyway so i don't know what the comments were looking at stuff but like a it's not a good topic yeah i mean my buddy blake there for being passionate about kids and stuff and the you know but yeah well i'm gonna get active families since you completely changes have stage i'm like i'm like a i don't do teams in the don't don't do politics probably smart i would say a man named independent independent voter like i'm not even that 'cause that's like something i don't yeah and what's group everybody like you do you and that's how i feel you run you're right so my guess is a marathon runner most like that's like we used algebra kid like run your own race yeah race all run mind yeah like inlets the least have a common goal and then they end together yeah not the way that's what the world we're living so speaking of cast we had a lot of questions when i asked my followers that they wanna know how did you guys meet we met in the next great that's one of the questions yet i was ruined by proxy sister you were you were i mean they submitted some really did a interesting questions that they might not get asti has my mom would be really funny we we made great one both of the public school a school ingles side is like this big school when feels like for kids in the this year for kids rates credit for kids in seventh grade 'em i yeah i liked her a lot then you know yeah and he's cute shoes shoes day one of my friends house day one of her friends we all kind of the goliath bill dating together and that's really funny who knows yeah you know and i you know what the girl those dating at the time but it also kind of like gas in a in a it just a overly you know i think it came back to a few weddings since the officer you know he's kinda start i actually start dating or like seventeen i guess we start getting a little bit but now she left her school over nashville we just kinda david here they're never could find the right time and make it work and then i was playing a show opened up george straight number two thousand two thousand five of a yeah in las vegas and she came out the show as a as a friend and i was like yeah come out i'll be on the bus and she came in the buses in the back of the bus watching old school like the hundred million like they have instagram sided coming up i guess inscribed extra better there's watching the same like will farrell movies over and over again a least you're maybe learning something but a and then a she came out and i was like wow the most you walked in the buses like right there because you're you're like right time right person right place sp all three knows like this just feels like it's all three and we looked at the end of the year is fun we met in las vegas and then we got engaged in las vegas in december so it's like within a year of mexico got a got married so you just say you told me before when she came on the bus and you're like i'm gonna marry that go i knew right away here in country music for the first time hearing junior just grab their motives were like well i i this is like so clear because okay we i'm bringing up the kind of broken engagement type thank you have that in common so you've been tried before and obviously in those moments you would know right the girl before i tried to learn yeah so i try to marry someone support in workout 'em but said they want with different ways cass well that was just like well i wanna i wanna say maturity not much much more mature but the first time around is more like out of desperation that was just like trying to make this relationship work now shrine of solve a lot of problems with the ats which is a terrible reason to get married hannity i think she kinda recognize that 'em cass it was just like i just something just clicked i don't know what it was i think you know being on the road at for some of us you know you see like there's so many young artist get married right now like luke combs is getting married in honor lane has marian burns married and yeah and all but like no tr in in a lefty all guys i mean they all got married i think people industry were like why you get married so you like stay single keep grinding working out in front of like it's just it's kinda lonely out there you own a share and neither is absurd downs with it's like you know like you know you go toward show and there's you know i wanna share their experience whether the all these amazing things are happening you're life the first time like no one's like they really talk to embellish so i i wouldn't cass when i just some about her not momo's is like yeah and then i did once i said got the the marriage train rolling out i definitely had a tap of the brakes frakes todd you're like well okay you working better than i expected like it's really going fast you're moving the nashville yeah it sounds like you're at dan in you're like oh shit shit yeah yeah like eight honestly it probably took me like eight years like recover over a like musically kind of get back on track i feel like everything i've done is geared towards is like single guy on the road you know it's like the hardest working guy in country music we did like forty one shows in forty five days days one time twenty six in a row i was just working nonstop loved the road love the bus love the lifestyle that's kind of what was that train train building up the momentum is going faster and faster and faster and faster this is you're guide and after i never used the term brands lost w kind of creating your own lane right and like you're gets there's more heat and you're nominated for stuff and things were happening and then you get married and it's like it's a songwriter mike identity i dunno it's like i gotta find the spider whose parents were right about now my memory starts coming out you like oh you are married here everybody looks at you differently in even though you kind of feel the same so it's almost like stop that train which takes a long time to do and like jacket and the station and go start a whole new and that's the way i really feel like it was from me and i don't think i could go back and sing songs about the single days it but doesn't resonate with me right now that's not who i am now i i really feel like me it wasn't like two thousand in a mean the bluegrass recommends a departure doesn't ten homers in common attempt in that direction for sure and then i feel like a like a whiz riser in two thousand twelve is pry like okay kind of china coming to you live in it mean bracing this whole life has been bracing all there is to write about from that standpoint i mean so much more right about from me after i've done all the other stuff heartbreak stuff like being married everything goes along with that and certainly am kids love very right sing songs kids they teach you so much more about have taught me at least much more about life in his pocket right deeper and better songs a and not be afraid go there and embrace that you know i think it's also some fear there like you alienate totally yeah it's a hard business have a serious relationship and i would say i always think that i actually think i might do a podcast of the cash just talking about when it's like from her perspective 'cause you're you're career is kind of it now they are you have to navigate through that what you're whole entire william totally buy you a well wives pike participants thing i like i could never do what she did i would you know be on the road and in just you know the the the parties we had after the show an offer you know it's nothing's nothing's not do anything wrong not do anything right either but i wasn't doing anything wrong but it's just like why are we having you know why you're doing this why are you know for like hey saturday this regular people get a thursday friday they get three weekends i don't get a week and i don't get the local bar and so we we create a bar you know we have are we have fun hanging in the i i would be the worst i'd be so jealous so i could never handled who would never i would like you to like a nine i'm like why would i mean yeah exactly so there's a lot lot of growing lot of me having to grow up you know a cast it's been so amazing how she's like pulled me through every like major man life hurdle you know i think the stage is so it's so much harder now do what you're supposed to do the guy is of the phone i mean it's just everything he wants at your fingertips it's just like why would you you take these bigger steps when like you really don't have to you know it's just like i just got my phone and hit up one of these social like dating apps and stuff so i mean like the marriage things within like help me kinda religious that and having a kid you know it's like i i think of myself as a kid but do i really want one that's a lot of like you know or even getting a second dog was gasses idea that kind of helped me along you know she gave me the the the stepping stones and having a kid think we have you know she pulled me along in in in made that happen in the second one in talking about third money now it's like these not my 'em these things i was leading the charge on what she kinda pull me through and i'm so thankful she you know has the wisdom that women have the the do that cause so you hit it would have missed out a lot obviously a civil east so what the hell talking about well right now you have three kids you have like a thousand will cause you have three dogs is that right three yeah every dog and there's a lot going on here were all sleeping on one room this situation blows my mind will you why you know we each is as a parent there is no blueprint and so you think when you have kids you're like you're not says any new parents out there they're listening on it's like you know they need to be in the room and then regimented you know in a lot of is like for cash out whenever it's more like we just want some time to be a laundry some wind and rain like so like you gotta that we are prescheduled this this book called baby wiser like has rescheduling mapped out okay like some sort of like being a room you know go to sleep so even like hang for a little bit here may should be screaming and you know she hated being reversed the locks on the door so she couldn't get it out she'd be like staring us one i under the door like screaming like harvey weinstein later on every hates being alone they know that the time but it really right now it's just there's so many moving parts at night is just like when they they easily come in the room anyway so we kinda like through mattress on the floor and has written this book 'em outlets last book i just read crap i can't sell it gives call go wild great book a but you know really touching the world like majority world everyone sleeps in one room oh yeah like they would think it's child abuse to make a kid himselves after so natural so the millennium we've been around we also run a campfire before fire we're all just kind of near each other and safety you know it's like you know someone is always up like the older people will be up later kind of watching the group the camps attempts whatever and then these you still get really early in the middle nighter selling some of the early morning hours someone awake around high sleep well knowing that like you know the the sounds of the fire the animals that you know people sleeping nearby you and that's what makes you feel safe throw catering by themselves for some kids it's just it's terrifying experience so we're just like now that gives older but they're still trips like everyone's gonna match the floor bedroom looks like hell but everyone sleeping good which is one that really matters and it kind of makes sense me right now just call the wolfpack in walked in what is it different were you because you have two girls and then knocks came along and we've obviously been spending a lotta time it's not just don't the living video released so it's amazing 'em so anyway what was there any difference like having a boy boy did that change you in any different way you know i think any most guys out there probably want a boy the first kid 'cause that's all they really know and then if you're lucky you get a girl and you know every just totally change the shape of my heart just like it's just amazing you know she just what she did me in and have another one another girlfriend heavy 'cause i one of the sisters with my wife has a sister in the unique bond the third one else kind of all right we're gonna look at a boy here and it's definitely i mean he's like a such a mini me i i got so lucky you're not in love everything i love these total comedian and he's also really kind to carry older sisters is taught about like being a nice person 'em but yeah it's a you know i think when you talk about new people's type us in this food stuff i schreier the ice pass the plunges their exercise stuff a lot of it's about obviously wanna feel now big feel great the present moment the planning you know what what how wanna look and feel ten years down the road when knox's fourteen when jordan's eighteen emmys tony like i wanna build a hang in there with him in and then be active in in in so but certainly with anoxia he's a practice yeah he lived long any game we play hockey together he plays hockey i stop playing hockey 'cause he plays more now he's only five and he's there three times a week and scrape scare he knows what the colorado together is two of us who's who's also made he goes ski scored ski then come back sporadic a few beers and some food and go home watch star wars and do it all over again like he's like kind of like you know as far as my male friends go is is my my best friend so we have a unique relationship so he calls me his brother because were not having more kids so i i will be a product that will do all the dump stuff with you and so he kind of he goes and brothers where he liked that you're dad really clinton older so my dad my dad had two kids before me with his first wife and she she she had a brain cancer and she passed away so he remarried my mom and so he had me on his fifty and he they're twins mark in my brother when you sixty so he wasn't that by he's he he did stuff with me he taught me a lot of mechanics working on like motor lawnmowers and and just how dr boats and cars and stuff but he wasn't as physical design but knocks knocks knife fight daily yeah 'em but my brother who's teen years younger than me 'em i feel like the relationship happens knox is a lot like the one i have a brother five 'cause 'em ten years older and him and we did everything together and it's i still feel like a you know a teenager you're like most men no yeah i feel like i feel like i'm a teenager i feel like i'm like eighty years old and never feel anything on what you're doing is you're always like either really young onstage replay knox where i feel like credibly exhausted like i think about you a lot because you're very hands on their kids and you can go play these huge venues in literally walk off the stage let's say i don't know wherever you are you come home and they don't give shit that you're dirks bentley no it doesn't matter at all he down doesn't matter at all no transition it's the best so i mean it really is thinking what i would tell you that it's like having that wedding for your home is like the best like you just come home and be like and i work really hard to maintain that is far as like where the house looks and stuff i have line rather guitars not too many guitars guitars and then mandolins aren't lot around stuff there's no like pictures of me on gold record's is there anything you know i don't want them i want just treat me like you know not only been treated like crap for say a they can do some no it's not it's one of the like just be noticed that in you know i i train them to like they will not they won't leave me alone i mean they know i'm like mr activity guy so it's like the backyard attack that patios so place a hockey with a they they're just kind of like the big like i certainly can't camp counselor more like anything else these guys in a but i'm i you know i'm pretty tried to the best i can't there's no blueprint for the ship so you're just like how do you you raise kind nice compassionate kids and 'em in in china helping you find but whatever they're interested in so is that the most important contain created teach me think i think yeah i think they have like you know a just compassion alone is looking for the truth in every situation and 'em being you know yeah being nice respectful and you wouldn't need it you know jordan's very vocal and you know as girls you teaching it'd be like you know be vocal and say what you want and go after we wanna do and in a you know in that regard in a but do something being compassionate is is usually considered by kids and really fortunate right exactly this is kelly henderson and you've been listening to the valve attach podcast i truly believe that everyone of us has a little
What reading slowly taught me about writing | Jacqueline Woodson
"This ted talk features writer. Jacqueline Woodson recorded live at Ted Twenty nineteen. Have have you ever wondered how your language influences your thinking or why people pronounce the letter T in different ways. If you've ever wanted to learn more about the history of language from Indians to your guardless you can get your fill of language grammar and writing on the fun educational podcast Grammar Girl Post Mignon fogarty is sure to teach you something I knew about language find grammar girl. Wherever you get your podcasts a long time ago there lived a giant a selfish giant. Who Stunning Garden was the most beautiful and all the land one evening? This giant giant came home and found all these children playing in his garden. He became enraged. My own garden is my own garden. The giant said and he built his high wall around it. The author Oscar Wilde wrote the story of the selfish giant in eighteen eighty eight almost one hundred years later that giant moved into my Brooklyn Childhood and never left. I was raised in a religious family and I grew up reading both the Bible and the Koran the hours of reading both religious and recreational far outnumbered the hours of television watching now on any given day you could find my siblings and I curled up in some part of our apartment reading sometimes unhappily because on summer days in New York City the fire hydrant blasted into our immense jealousy we hear our friends down there playing in the gushing water their absolute joy making its way up through our open windows but I learned that the deeper I went into my books. The more time I took with each sentence the less I heard the noise of the outside world and so unlike my siblings who are racing through books. I read slowly very very slowly. I was that child with her finger running beneath the words until I was untucked to do this toll big. Kids don't use their fingers in third grade. We were made to sit with our hands folded on our desk unclasping them only to turn the pages then returning them to that position. Our teacher wasn't being cruel. It was the nineteen seventies and her goal was to get us reading not not just on grade level but far above it and we were always being pushed read faster but in the quiet of my apartment outside of my teachers gays as I let my finger run beneath those words and that's selfish giant again told me his story how he had felt betrayed by the kids sneaking into his garden how he he had built this high wall and it did keep the children out but a gray winter fellow with his garden and just stayed in stayed with with each rereading. I learned something new about the hard stones of the roads that the kids were forced to play on when they got expelled from the garden about the gentleness of a small boy way that appeared one day and even about the giant himself. Maybe his words went rage full after all. Maybe they were a plea for empathy for understanding ending my own garden is my own garden years later. I would learn of a writer named John. Gardner who referred to this is the fictive dream are the dream of fiction and I would realize that this was where I was inside that book spending time with the characters and the world that the author had created created and invited me into as a child. I knew that stories were meant to be savored. That story's wanted to be slow and that some author had spent spent months. Maybe years writing them and my job is the reader especially as the reader who wanted to one day become a writer was to respect that narrative long before there was cable or the Internet are even the telephone there are people sharing ideas and information and memory through story. Sorry it's one of our earliest forms of connective technology. It was the story of something better down the Nile sent the Egyptians moving along the the story of a better way to preserve the dead that brought King Tut's remains into the twenty first century and more than two million years ago. When the first humans began making tools goals from stone someone must have said what if and someone else remember the story and whether they told it through words or gestures or drawings it it was passed down remembered hit a hammer and here it story? The world is getting noisier. We've gone from boom boxes this to Walkman portable CD players. I pods to any song. We want whenever we want it. We've gone I'm from four television channels of my childhood to seeming infinity of Cable and streaming as technology moves faster and faster through time and space face it seems to feel stories getting pushed out of the way I mean literally pushed out of the narratives but even as our engagement with stories exchange are the trappings around it more from book to audio to Instagram Snapchat. We must remember our finger beneath the words. Remember that that story regardless of the format has always taken us to places. We never thought we go introduced us to people. We never thought we meet and shown US world. We might have missed so I'll as technology keeps moving faster and faster. I am good with something slower my finger beneath the words taste led me to a life of writing books for people of all ages books meant to be read slowly to be savored my love for looking deeply and closely at the world for putting my whole self into it and by doing so seeing the many many many possibilities of a narrative turned out to be a gift because taking my sweet time taught me everything. I needed to know about writing and writing taught me everything I needed to know about creating worlds where the people could be seen and heard where their experiences could be legitimized where my story read or heard by another person inspired something in them that became a connection between us a conversation and isn't that what this is all about finding away at the end of the day eight not feel alone in this world and a way to feel like we've changed before we leave stone to hammer Manta mummy any idea to story and all of it remembered. Sometimes we read to understand the future sometimes we we re to understand the past we read to get lost to forget the hard times we're living in and we read to remember those who came before us who lived through something nothing harder. I write for those same reasons before coming to Brooklyn. My family lived in Greenville South Carolina. In a segregated neighborhood called nickel town all of us there were the descendants of people who had not been allowed to learn to read right imagine that the danger of understanding how letters form words the danger of words themselves the danger of illiterate people and their are stories but against this backdrop of being threatened with death for holding onto a narrative are stories didn't die because there is yet another story being neath that one and this is how it has always worked for as long as we've been communicating. There's been the layering to the narrative the stories beneath the stories and the ones beneath those this is how story has and will continue to survive as I began to connect the dots. What's that connected the way I learned to write and the way I learned to read twin almost silenced people? I realize that my story was the bigger and older and deeper than I would ever be and because of that it will continue among these almost silence people will there once there were the ones who never learned to read their descendants now generations out of enslavement if well off enough had had gone onto college Grad School beyond some like my grandmother and my siblings seemed to be born reading the history stepped out of their way some like my mother hitched onto the great migration wagon which was not actually a wagon and kissed the south good bye bye. Here is the story within that story those who left and those who stayed carried with them the history of a narrative new deeply that writing it down wasn't the only way way they could hold onto. It knew they could sit on their porches. Are they're stoops at the end of a long day and it's been a slow tail for their children. They knew they he could sing their stories through the thick heat of picking cotton and harvesting tobacco knew they could preach their stories so them into quilts turn the most painful ones into something laughable and through that laughter exhale history of a country that tried again and again and again to steal their bodies their spirit and their story so as a child. I learned to imagine an invisible finger taking me from word word from sentence to sentence from ignorant to understanding so as technology continues to speed peterhead I continue to read slowly knowing that I am respecting the author's work and the stories lasting acting power and I read slowly to drown out the noise and remember those who came before me who probably the I people who finally learned to control fire and circled it's newt their new power aflame and light put in heat and I read slowly to remember the selfish giant how he finally tore that wall down let the children run free free through his garden and I read slowly to pay homage to my ancestors who are not allowed to read it all they to must've list of circle fires speaking softly of their dreams their hopes their futures each time I'm we read right are tell a story we step inside their circle and it remains unbroken and the power of story lives on thank you for more. Ted Talks Ted Dot Com.
Earth's Magnetic Field Initiates Pole Flip Many Millennia Before The Switch
"This is scientific American sixty second chance. I'm Anne snead Earth's magnetic field which creates planets north North and South Pole is far from fixed in fact the field is quite active sometimes weakens and even reverses causing earth polarity to switch reversals. Don't happen very often though only about every one hundred thousand two million years that's part of why this phenomenon has largely remained a mystery for scientists scientists however a recent study may help researchers better understand how long and how complicated. Earth's magnetic field reversals really are. You're the last polarity reversal took place some seven hundred seventy thousand years ago and a new study researchers use a lava flow records along with sedimentary an Antarctic ice core data to examine that event they found that the reversal took about as long as many scientists previously believed it did just a few thousand years but the researchers also examined the period prior to that final reversal process and they discovered that a lot was happening with earth. I know field thousands of years beforehand. There's clear evidence from the volcanic rocks of a major excursion happening at about seven hundred ninety five five thousand years ago. Brad Singer do scientists at the University of Wisconsin Madison who led the study that was followed by another excursion which is the unexpected ended finding of this study at about seven hundred eighty four thousand the two excursions that we've discovered in the lava record in our seed in some of the sedimentary records are a sign that the Dynamo was beginning to undergo the reversal process twenty thousand years earlier than the final reversal took place so our arguments would be that the rehearsal gristle process is complicated long lived and it gets underway gets initiated well before the final reversal takes place all this activity deep prior to the final reversal vital for our grasp of the process. The ultimate goal here is we want to understand what drives reversals what HAPP- what really happens in the Dynamo. Oh and if you just start and look at this short period right around the reversal you're missing all this unusual behavior that happens in thousands of years prior prior to that we need to know of singers findings hold true for magnetic field reversals in general alterations in the field will mess with critical human systems as such as the GPS satellites that help us navigate fortunately whenever the next reversal happens. It looks like we'll have plenty of time to prepare. Thanks for listening for scientific American sixty seconds science. I'm any SNEED.
The Evolutionary History Of Penguins Is Far From Black And White
"The image of a penguin might bring to mind an endless march across windswept ice. The reality of penguins is a bit different says Grant Ballard of point blue conservation science was actually see species of Pangolin. Really, love, it's only two species. Many others live in warmer waters. So we're could conceivably dealing with something like minus seven degrees or even colder than out. Then, show, but lobby goes mainland has encountered temperatures that are up around one hundred degrees Fahrenheit. So how'd it penguins evolve with such different lifestyles and new study and the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences has some answers we've been able to resolve. Several. Longstanding questions about penguin evolution in particular way penguins originated. Hurry Bowie of UC Berkeley as an author on that study. He says there's been a long debate about where the first penguins evolved was it Antarctica or farther north in New Zealand as others have suggested, well armed with genetic evidence from a species of modern day penguins his team has an answer which turned out to be along the coast of Australia and New Zealand the nearby islands of the South Pacific. They say that happened around twenty two million years ago from there, the penguin served on a circular current at the bottom of the world there is a clockwise current. And so they use this current colonized like. The region Juliana of the Catholic. University. Of Chile is a CO author. She says, eleven million years ago that current revved up and penguins used it to slingshot themselves throughout the Southern Hemisphere. That's right. slingshot. The researchers also observed genetic adaptations. Some penguins picked up along the way like the ability to drink seawater also changes in how some species use oxygen allowing them to dive deep that doesn't mean. Penguins will be quick to adapt to modern day climate change. Here's Valley. Again, this adaptation to being able to occurring freezing cold waters in tropical waters occurred over a period of twenty million years, and this doesn't mean that penguins are going to be able to keep up with oceans warming today. If there is one thing, the paper makes clear. It's that the evolution of penguins for from black and white.
Go Big Or Go Home
"Safra radio is a special operations military grade podcast hosted by a team of combat hardened veterans. We're an unbiased source for frontline military news behind the scenes war stories. We've interviewed the infamous seal team, six skilled snipers, clandestine operatives, and so many more listen to solve REP radio, every Friday on the iheartradio APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Guys bobby bones I host the bobby bones show, and I'm pretty much always sleepy because I wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple of hours later I. Get all my friends together. We get into a room and we radio show wish allies. We tell our stories. We try to find as much good in the world that we possibly can, and we looked through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country artists are always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music, too, so wake up with a bunch of my friends on ninety eight point seven W. M Z Q in Washington. DC or wherever rotates you on the iheartradio APP? Coming up at the top of the hour, right about four minutes after its today strawberry letter the subject. I have a rat. In the basement. Check my letter today. Okay, subject. I have a rat in the basement, but I nephew. Tommy is here with today's prank phone. Call which you got for his NAFF. Go Big! Or go home? Let me say that time go. Go Oh. DEBT THEY Go. Go home. Let's go Kiddo here y'all take. Hello Hello. I'm trying to reach. DARNOLD DARNOLD For this how you doing? This is Scott same with bigger bigger and better where we make you large and in charge how you doing today. Scott who I mean Scott. I'm with a bigger and better. Large, and in charge. I'm good was. We were actually given a phone. Call by your wife. Your wife is that correct? Yeah, okay, well you wife's Birthday is coming up pretty soon. Is that right? Yeah, so a couple of weeks. Yeah, coming up. 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LAUGHING HARD Stop calling. GO TO THOMAS MILES DOT COM. Click on the button if we can get the crank practice of. All right thinking if you will be hard about what you Sandal. Coming up if the strawberry letter subject I have a rat in the basement. We'll get into it right after this you're listening to. Morning Show. Software radio is a special operations military grade podcast hosted by team of combat hardened veterans. We're an unbiased source for frontline military news, and behind the scenes war stories from America's living legends. We've interviewed the infamous seal team six. Dogs with respect skilled snipers, so we went to secure the facility and enable these individuals to do their job and maintain this hospital clandestine operatives. I had a bullet in my skull. And so many more so stay smart stay sharp. Soft Rep radio. The every day carried podcast. Listen to. Radio every Friday on the iheartradio, APP, apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 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Is the Carnivore Diet Even Better than the Ketogenic Diet? | Health Theory
"If you've ever wanted me to coach you personally acilitator your alternate transformation we have two tracks personal and business a lot of the things that I've done have been sort of off the cuff this is real curriculum broken down step by any reason get a refund and if you really think this could help you in your life you're willing to really I hope you will give it a shot I think this is the best content ever created I'm super excited I'm going until then my friend's be legendary figure hey guys welcome for you know that to improve your mindset you must first start with hey I wanted to share with you everything you need to know about the Carnivore Diet to the Carnival Dia before but you're the first person I've ever heard say no no from an evolutionary standpoint is probably like how do you show that that isn't true there's a lot of nuance there and what we should be doing now and that is debatable as well I mean some people in evolutionary biology would debate does this is called the Neolithic revolution but if we back up way further we can go back eight of neanderthals and Homo sapiens and what they see is so much nitrogen in those bones that those people were essentially carnivores meaning they were eating almost entirely of all the human brain size had this logarithmic uptick two million years ago compelling story you can put together their that hunting animals access to animal foods the previous thirty million years of primate evolution we'd stayed about level at about I get it's a narrative you're putting it together maybe this maybe that and it comes together and this is a nice narrative you had you know similar ancestry for a very long time and as far as all the way to entirely carnivorous Dick and I think that this we have had primarily vegetable based diet or a plant based Diet for thirty France that we hadn't seen before in higher quantities so we had much higher quantity Mahfoud because we're eating these much more bioavailable foods that it was the eating of the foods that made a million I mean how many calories and will they met like millions and millions of calories well taken and it gives us this really interesting survival advantage because we're not always going to flo women have any food today tomorrow and in that situation I think the idea bioavailable micronutrients where humans would have gotten calories from evolution airily micronutrient adequacy micronutrient bioavailability this to me is the great leveler Koreans calcium zinc selenium manganese or the DHA EPA some plants and they are going to tie over in terms of calories and they're gonNA give us sub as we became people who realize that animals were the best source of nutrients meats and all that stuff so I had I had kinda come from standard American loyd green vegetables but then I always researching I'm always looking and studying and exclusively carnivore unless they couldn't get meet and then they would eat whatever of course I had more neanderthal DNA than ninety seven percent of the population and so it it I'd lost another four pounds people were saying what are you look better you've lost weight like they could see even with Paleo Promo when I went about eighty percent better but then when new I mostly yolks I'll eat butter or ghee and yet to sit down and go dammit another rib I I it just doesn't happen right so how does one in today's world eat a carnival slope or we kill a moose a nose to tail approach to a Carnivore Diet thinks trian that are unique and so you're going to cartlidge you are gonna eat the cartilage I right and when people come on the team you got put on the JV team I unless they're Super Gung Ho so version of Carnivore Diet often goes wrong because it's just too basic and that is just eating what's the best way for a human to do it in terms of micronutrients or macronutrients but the simplest version all the way through all the time you don't want to cookout you cook out nutrients I'm assuming cookout you have to worry about microbial content would you eat raw absolutely I've done really I personally with eggs is contamination of campylobacter and Salmonella on the shell of the correct the inside of the egg it almost so when you eat the white of the white of the egg I don't WanNa it is the most amount of nutrients and I really try to be a fat hunter in my carnivore Diet we can fast and it tastes good ben going to your initial hypothesis if you fuck and he might if I were in the wilderness and I came across an egg I would probably cook it and eat the whole thing yes shug him do you put them in a glass in my hand and oh jam it down God dating is hard for me man it's interesting how okay so we're pounding six to eight title liverwurst growing up that probably saved me when I first started eating liver I would gag wash like a documentary or something about polar bears their liver that has too much vitamin A. or something like that this I talked to see people taking vitamin A. Palmer Tate's supplement but you can eat it pretty decent amount of joke than I ate raw liver again this is the Subaru version and I put a little sea salt on it me and then I'll eat rob rain whoa and it's clearly this is all my experiment right I'm one I want to know what this is like so I can share with people I think about where the Dha goes here and it's been interesting for me personally at this point in my evidence and it's interesting historical evidence of a lot of cultures eating Oregon's first and then saving desiccated Oregon tablets which I think are really interesting new sort of subset of a settlement actually get the nutrients so if you if you buy cooking it right I've got to imagine by doing all that so if if there's any way to do it that would be the best way but that's a very valid point it can't be as good as Roy Oliver one so the basic kernel diet there's probably meat and eggs right you like if somebody's giving me a diet and they're like Bob make sure that you take zinc magnesium it's like I want and in the modern amount of Riboflavin in egg yolks moderate amount of riboflavin eggs and labor steak agan liver would be thirty days thirty days thirty days and then you could chicken liver chicken breast the carnivore diet is kind of this another name Dan that our ancestors ate fish ancestors scallops shrimps those were all be on on occasions I would make the Varsity so I would include more organ meats kind of fun no there some things that I get down because it's like this is hard and I want to do we love these guys and think that they have something incredibly valuable to offer so be sure to give a listen a lot Alaskan salmon four three and twenty dollars off your first order when you go to butcher so critical to know that it's high called food you're getting and delicious it's healthy and grasped finished beef free range organic chicken and even a special the United States and their prices of just come down to just six dollars WCHS DOT com go after these guys men get them they are amazing I think you guys are GonNa love sleep sleep scores heart rate variability body temperature into five point three but everything else iron fares increased which I was probably expecting eating more red meat the brunt of metabolic burden I it's a key metabolic sudenly hub and so if your LDL cholesterol and your lowest Jill but without that context cells and tissues red blood cells neuron various central nervous system cells within our brain that need ads in on your triglycerides on top of that is less raw and when you liberate that sales but that glimpse raw backbone gets shunted right into that cycle sounds so polarizing controversial but you know in functional medicine we've been talking about this take that's almost carnival in the sense obviously if you overdo the white rice you're going to negate some AH my cholesterol currently is three hundred and fifty my l. attics about lipid and cholesterol and LDL now so the entire model has been upside down this entire time so I'm not very low my hemoglobin a one C or my three months blood sugar average is the lowest super interesting walk me through what parts went through a period that lasted probably for about two and a half years where I was essentially doing rabbit tackling absolutely horrifying but damn I was lean acidly had some cancer prevention stuff I tried it and it was like it was like taking drug low when I was doing the rabbit starvation and I thought that was a good thing we have to get you on lipitor and I was like you must be joking I've and that's that makes good sense. And so my contention is is that an elevated very high triglycerides level those four-test those that's the shotgun -pletely inconclusive if your doctor says Oh you have a high total cholesterol you need to be on in its totality it's not a respecter might be a bb gun but it's not the shotgun it from Carnivore Diet so the Carnivore Mendes progress has been dealing with the now for four years but she's made tremendous progress and she's gone to the point it but she's not making progress in my estimation and so one thing that do you have your auto immune response if the stakes I'd be very curious to see if that worked for her AH I do use a carnivore diet in my for my patients that need it microbiome this inflammatory cascade going on sometimes you need that or died you're going to want to make sure it's nutrient dense you're gonna WanNa make sure that you're going in their healthy Amigas from the fish and grass fed beef has made us as going off of egg whites for a while too because the human can be we do it for a period of time we do some broths and soups and stews and things like that sort the gut physiology access so the premise is lots of bone broth CBS instead it's soft and cooked meat because even the meek and be hard to digest for their digestion at the beginning really even breakdown meets but then you start Posey's can have to the hell if I went carnivore for a year hearing on die off well there are certain bacteria and yeast that alcohol stuff gets so complicated it is complicated by my day job is like you know diet is there any logic there well you know it's interesting I mean Jordan severe obesity there can be real benefits but I again apl some cultures like the plains Indians Lakota. Yeah so when you look at that is there you've talked about awesome the laws of biology how does that play out in terms of plants because basically a chemical evolutionary advantage or the way that they awesome against predation and humor one of the predators and so okay it didn't develop clause the different question but there's a follow -able chain of logic to why way to balance. Yeah Yeah but at the same time I keep telling my wife one experiment she hasn't run yet what are the odds that like when she eats animal products she's fine wildly problematic and so it's like is there anything that they all share a cardinal sin of the laws of biology. Well have you reading those detail like you're eating the liver which has radio I mean I think your gut microbiome feeds on carbohydrates fascinating concept but essentially yes there are defense mechanisms in plants things Albus detoxify so when you eat broccoli you up regulate the glue define the so I think we have evolved co evolved with plants so we engineer transmitted and so so and so I think we there are plants you wouldn't want it you don't you don't we've evolved with that we use in our bodies to regulate or biological functions vegetables so I maybe I like vegetables a lot but I tend to but I even though I like vegetables partly out of laziness because I don't want to cook what has it what nutrients do you fear eating meat and doing it well with a variety is a major way that we help with got diversity a robust he's with the Carnivora Diet I would assume that if someone's doing it properly that'd be a net positive for them if they're doing a properly formed carnivore diet but as you know is are you make your microbiome more resilient or not people should people might watch this towards the end of summer blueberries in full swing does that mean you totally avoid blueberries come into your body in general but then when you start to identify your carnivore your Akito doing but maybe in the winter probably the best time to go carnivore I'm GonNa say fuck you do how do I live forever like if you're serious about how you feel which is essentially what I do I'd be all over the Carnival Day all day every day when you think about it I'd never touch another fucking blueberry my life like really affecting your longevity if it makes you feel better sleep better if it improves your heart rate variability that would work for you and until next time my friends be legendary take this community and that is what we're all about right now buildings community as big as we can to help.
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"The brain naturally has a strong inability to just be in the present moment because he friend so today's episode is all about anxiety anxiety has been part of my story it's been something that I've had the things that have really helped my anxiety and my focus because let's be real who doesn't want more focus and less anxiety the first is so if you follow me on stories you know that I am a huge biohacking Dork a huge biohacking door so I have to share with you duo is that both of them have mood lifting properties that can actually alleviate your symptoms of anxiety depression feeling moody after Coffee Life until I realized that that pain is actually a gift pain turned into one of my biggest passions which is helping you to heal from anxiety naturally needs this house breath work dot com slash. Angie LE- let's do it are you ready to move let's dive into this episode having two PM crash. I don't know about you but my central nervous system is really sensitive to caffeine and it's very sensitive to any stimulants so when I was adding CBD to my coffee I know it sounds kind of silly but it's actually really really powerful and the powerful thing about this coffee and how or you're suffering from burnout or adrenal fatigue I highly suggest that you cool it on the coffee a little bit and definitely cool it on any best of the best who can help you heal and as you know I am always going to give you a holistic approach I am not a fan of taking medication and putting a band aid over anxiety Jio with an it's been so debilitating at times that I wasn't able to work or to have relationships and to function and it's just been such a pain in the ass in my life free workouts I am not a fan of ninety nine point nine percent of workouts because they just jack up your adrenals and they jack up your cortisol and that's not good for you a to pause breath work dot com slash Angelique again pause breath work dot com slash. Mg Lee Tell Sam's team I sent Ya I'm super proud of her for doing this the world really and I don't think that Mike and I would have started soul cd if it wasn't for me being in so much pain with my anxiety and Mike being in so much pain with his physical body as an loss energy sleep it's not good for anything so if you are going to do coffee and your body handles it well I highly suggest for semantic a few days this episode she's going to be teaching breath work so it's an experiential episode which is really really cool and by the end of this episode you're like Angie Sam I need to teach breath work than elites crazy and beautiful how are pain in life is oftentimes what becomes our gift and becomes our purpose and that's why I sure these episodes with you about anxiety because I want to bring on the central nervous system but here is the magic what I've been doing lately to give my adrenals a nice big warm hug to give them some TLC Ivan adding one dropper suffering from anxiety really bad a few years ago I actually had to completely cut coffee out of my diet and it was really healing if you're in a stressful period of your life right now episode you're GonNa love it you're going to trip out breath work is one of the coolest things I've ever experienced Sam taught at pays brave this year and the entire audience was crying I I will always give you remedies that are natural safe there are no side effects and there are things that you can do at Home Samantha Kelly is going to be taking you through breath work at the end of this week I will do one packet of the adapted Jin mix from four sigmatic they're adapted Jin mix is a blend of Tulsi Asha Gonda and it's much more healing for your son right like you said I look six months ahead and I go what if I sabotage I would if I ruin it you're not GonNa die if you fail but you're freeing thinks you are focus I don't feel that rush of adrenaline during my meetings or while I'm podcasting it just feels so much better and I love not having a two PM crash and I love him mm-hmm and seconds I've noticed that the one dropper of CBD in my morning coffee really helps so I don't have that two PM crash so I've been a little biohacking giddy big testing this events and a definitely noticed the mornings where I add the dropper of CBD to my coffee I have no midday crash I have no anxiety I have way more her of our soul CBD fifteen hundred milligram peppermint to my for synthetic coffee I the peppermint and coffee is delicious it's like a Christmassy dream having more focused during the day if you want to try out this duo which I've seen a bunch of you do already on it stories and I love it to keep tagging me I love seeing you guys peppermint cbd to your coffee if you haven't tried it yet. 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either a busy mom you're an entrepreneur unless you're a Shaman who works at the local crystal shop down the street here in San Diego and you chant under a tree all day you probably don't have an hour for meditation so I found a solution and it's an APP called simple habits and that's exactly what it is and I have to share it with you we seen with all of these thoughts needs guided meditation to get in the zone and I love the voices of the instructors on this APP I'm not I don't know about you but I don't think my body will sit and Lotus pose for that long here's the deal I was on this mission to incorporate meditation into my life so I could be a better leader created tried out let me know how you feel tag me on semi DM with any questions about and let's dive into the next hack that's been working really because it's the APP that I've been using every single morning for quick ten minute meditations before I start my day and what I love about this is that my brain that is right now so it lets you choose from sounds morning sleep commutes I'm going to choose morning right now and then up top I'm going to choose ten and who could just sit in a dark room and meditate I need it to be guided so if you're like me and you want guided meditation with beautiful voices for the instructors you must try simple habit it's super easy to use I'm going to actually walk you through it right now it's open on my phone I clicked simple habit I'm going to pick what I want let's because it lets you choose based on time which is awesome so if you want to go longer than ten minutes girlfriend you totally can but I'm going to choose ten minutes because I feel like if start today is a good day that one is only five minutes so if you're in a pinch that's perfect so what's really cool is hundreds of these meditations are completely free ends I mean these are taught by top experts you guys they are gifting this to you for only six dollars a month that's incredible six dollars a month just for 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that I shouldn't be doing totally it's just feedback it's just data right so when we change our relationship to anxiety we can move through it thank you said this is just simply a sign of not being in alignment and I've noticed that is really true whenever I do feel it it's always one of the you have these full blown attacks one of mine was in a car people have them at the most random times and they don't make sense and there is a biological aspect to anxiety that makes it impossible for you to get work done or you feel a lot of decision fatigue that's a sign of anxiety you feel as if you can't achieve things you feel as if everything is knew I had to quit the job and knew I had to pursue my passion and my system just decided to just break one day and I think I am someone like you who I think there's a lot of women listening who are like this we are that I don't feel that right so my gosh especially going through my eating disorder and going through those times in my life where it was like like it was chaotic it was get an entrepreneur subconsciously we have so many worries right now in the back of our mind I realised last year maybe two years ago that I was like an excellent high level Koper I'm so the overwhelming to you you find simple daily tasks extremely overwhelming that's a sign of anxiety you find it impossible to just get normal daily tasks done or this could be that and there's this emotional aspect to Zaidi but the more I study anxiety the more I realize that it's the emotional that then affected the physical system right so when sends it's I'm thinking in the future and I'm stressing about something that I have to do in six months and I'm afraid of failing at it or it's this idea of me not really be in present and I'm like oh I can't do that because I'm anxious or I can't do this because I'm anxious or I have an eating disorder because I'm anxious and anxiety which is like a part of me Smith's Kelly other than identifying with it so when I was going through my eating disorder I would tell everybody I am anxious it was like my sanity you know it was just a part of me it's like who I am common for me that's really common for me this really low grade anxiety almost to the point where like my nervous system is so used to experiencing at at almost thinks that it's normal but I know exact- experiencing my body it's not fundamentally I am so the conversation went from I am anxious to I am experiencing anxiety and that for me changed everything yeah have you ever had a full blown panic attack doors mostly been chronic anxiety or with every flavor of anxiety I've had panic attacks where I can't breathe and I can't Tara Yeah it was a strange but yeah that is intense and for you listening to this we want you to know that this could simply be this daily anxiety that eats obey go-getter woman who we have this steady stream of chaos in our blood at all times which makes us successful because we're always driven in on the go but it's also not auction and I'm curled up and I'm hyperventilating I'm freaking out and then I've had just this low level low gradings ID that is consistent always and honestly that's really some helping it. I went from treating anxiety with using a drug and over exercising and eating disorder like more those negative behaviors intellect. I'm just healthy but it still wasn't he get out of it we're not actually learning does breath we're making a one hundred percent but also let's understand where we were out of alignment feedback anxieties data it's such a great teacher so now when I'm like beings diety you know it was just a part of me until I realized I need to observe the anxiety of my body not identify with it so I need to be the observer of an and go okay this is a sensation pulling ashes like downward dogging my anxiety away you know and I'm like this doesn't helpful downwards it's really important to remember especially for women who have had in your teacher it's not our natural state happiness is so if you're president you're telling me and you're communicating to me that something's wrong so let's talk about shifting the worry I had it they said Oh well you're just low on vitamins or you're deficient in this and I don't think that's what it was I think it was a moment of really feeling not aligned purpose and what I was doing and okay well we need that information we need to understand where we're out of alignment how were out of alignment and we need to feel through a and spend enough time in that pain spend enough time to extract the chiefs and then once we understand where out of alignment then we can move into things like breath work and meditation and Yoga and all these sorts of things but when we do those healing modalities as a way to just good at coping with anxiety I meditate my word of it I can breath work my way of it I can yoga my way out of it I can eat the green smoothie my way and I realized that actually hey I love you you're safe I love you you're safe and just notice how your nervous system regulates when you simply just speak those words to wealthy to have your cortisol levels constantly elevated and it's not healthy to be living in that anxious state of all my God am I gonNa fail is it going to work going to make the money might be able to pay my employees Oh my God I mean feeling anxious I'm like okay skelly like sit down conversation do you need to have are you overworked are you stressed out at your employees are you worried about this launch are you worried about cash flow right now do you have to have a conversation with Eric Are you stressed out about how much travel you have going on and you stressed out about like the opportunities that you're missing because you're doing this thing or whatever it is in my life sit down and ask myself of our daily simple hacks that you ladies can take and to start implementing into your life and then we'll dive into breath work but I is what I call the three essays I do bigger and sleep if I'm not sleeping well if my sugar is too high and my stimulants are too high I know that that is the recipe for anxiety and so ladies right now honestly for a week of your life into wonder this childlike curiosity of what is going on what do I need right now it's almost as primal intuitive question of what's going on in my tired and hungry is my blood sugar off what the hell is going on and my madame boyfriend and my confused about what is going on for those of you guys listening that are not driving close your eyes and just say to your body Glee how and we're GonNa talk about this in this episode I know exactly how to move through that and shift it because my body is so used to experiencing anxiety that normalizes it when it's actually we speak to ourselves right they can also be weapons grade so when we speak words of like nursing medicine to ourselves we regulate our nervous system and it can be so simple here are they're working through it like don't use meditation as an escape route for your anxiety don't use even breath rick I always tell people like obviously breath rex mud jam in my head Org Green tea there's different options warm lemon water so if you gals are addicted to the ritual know that you can change your rituals right and it's not the coffee itself it's that moment of being alone and having something we have a trampoline we go outside all the time it's just so important and they've actually done studies where they had adults who are dealing with severe depression and anxiety doc to make sure that I'm not over consuming stimulants you guys if you are a woman who deals with anxiety stop all of the pre workouts modestly stop coffee for a bit I know Santa's and we'll be so simple it's jumping up and down on a hundred dollar trampoline that you get on Amazon this isn't millions of dollars isn't rocket science but when you were a child our systems weren't flooded with adrenaline into the adult system changed their entire life literally changed the hormones and their body and it's free it's play it's movement is laughing with friends it's picking up a game outside herself it's like 'cause moment you were like highly activated frigging out chaos chaos chaos and then you're like and it's words or medicine when we speak them to other people so suppressed vocally so when we have anxiety it's because so much of that is like suppressing our truth so we can just like Yawn really loud and just let the energy warm they've done studies at holding something warm like that makes you feel warm and happy so pick something else it's warm so stimulants sugar and sleep and then my second one is play if you got good quality sleep you eight no processed sugar and you removed all stimulants I literally that a zillion dollars check back in with me that you would feel better in your anxiety with this is huge and this doesn't mean that Salmon I believe in obviously more than anything in the world maybe we'll have a joint show or podcast one day or called just fucking play but clay is everything you guys okay a lot but here I never used to be this surprises people I was very much like that as a kid and then I went through this place this time in my life where I like muted my emotionality I suppress my expression out through the mouth or like like led an audible sigh out or in breath work I get people to scream out of their mouth while they're doing breath rupees talking to me no one sending me Shit it's just nice you've created a ritual which just proves that it's the ritual and so you could replace with Hakka cows replace it with caffeine exactly is the next one is play you have to play you have to be a kid I don't know anyone else who's better at this than you and I I mean right we should get some kind of frigging award for this right infused play into their life and this could be everything from a board game with your family this could be a recreational sport outside is be playing soccer with your kids on the weekends literally infusing play again in whatever and so we have this conditioning like I don't deserve to be heard was so anytime that we try and express ourselves we apologize for it don't do that like let yourself yawn without saying bed and I'm like I'm going to go to bed early tonight so I can wake up earlier so I can have my coffee earlier love the taste you love the ritual this moment in time with myself and it's like no one's working with our brain that is two million years old that is constantly telling us that we're GONNA die I'm constantly looking for threats so this is why we are so future focus looking for all the things that could sean I wasn't like that my essence is being ridiculous and how I am today but I realized like expression through the mouth is so important so you are so right when I am going periods of anxiety I have to cut coffee do that before you just do and you guys I love coffee like I can't even go to run out of the room and I'm like what the literal after happened but you know what you're just go in your body that you're just letting it out you know it's interesting that's play very expressive and but don't use breath work to just feel anxious I'm going to brush what right away no like feel through the anxiety understand that it's there to teach us something right and you said it's letting us know out of alignment I'm like I don't know what you're talking about cool it on coffee even take down a few ounces stop the sugar and really check in with your sleep so stimulants releases all of that tension and anxiety that throw chalker stuff because so often especially as women a Lotta girls when they were younger their parents would be like shh like don't say that don't talk don't both when we gone right when we don we're like people like sorry or like you know what I mean whenever we have expression her mouth were always apologizing for it then cortisol because we moved and we laughed and we meet sounds screened and you do that all of the time I thought I was weird raised yours I it doesn't hold back or withdraw so ask yourself in what ways am I with holding my expression because scream and dance and play and sing player three or sneeze and I'm just freak out a little bit like think of like a cat when a yawns it's like you know would die because you wouldn't have the resources to survive so the brain is constantly looking for ways that we're GONNA die and we've evolved so much but our brains haven't so we're still working with if I sabotage ruined it you're not GonNa die if you fail but your brain thinks you are right or that same feeling of if one of your girlfriends as mad at you the woman who is wearing a suit on a stage giving presentations and I'm just like yeah girl I could not be farther from that and I want to be an example and I know you are as that you love or you watch a youtube clip that makes you laugh your ass off on your coffee breaker on your lunch break and you dance around the hallway or you dance around the parking lot you could infuse this into your day honestly this could be as simple as on your work break putting your headphones you listen to an awesome podcast maybe this winter Sam's you know what I'm saying or our biology until that becomes the norm and it requires us to constantly get back on the train I'm here I'm here now I'm looking in the eyes I'm observing the colors there's a story that I used to have all the time making money was hard right love is hard so checking in with your stories around your inability to play like plays oasis gently telling us that we're GONNA die and constantly looking for threats so this is why we are so future focus looking for all the things that could go wrong right like you said I look six months ahead and I go interesting my breath I'm noticing my emotions I'm noticing I'm feeling I have to bring myself back to the present moment thirty thousand times a day because my brain doesn't actually do it for me I'm excited for maybe it will one day nice to make things difficult right it's all a choice absolutely chat with us about being here now chat with us about presence yeah because you have a tattoo that says here's talk in a very serious manner I would not be me yeah and I'm thinking of the woman who after nine to five as well if you're at your nine to five job listening to this and you're wondering how has the time goes by faster and I realized that it's always a choice to have fun it's always a choice to make the situation a little bit easier so and it's a choice to make life sucky and it's so with us so the brain naturally has a strong inability to just be in the present moment because we're working with reptilian brain that is two million years old that is saying that is in survival our brains are not wired for us to thrive and to be happy so we have to make the choice you said it's a choice to be happy as a choice to play it's a choice we have to work against I am if I wasn't fucking weird yeah and I think that there's a lot of women listening to this who think that you have to be really serious totally totally a hundred percent and that's bullshit yeah feels like death feels like Oh my God she's mad at me Oh my God oh breaks my heart it's not because you're GonNa die but you feel like it because in tribal times if you were ostracized from the tribe intoxicating that feeling of like feel alive I feel in my body I feel centered I feel grounded I feel there's no anxiety here this is what we're all craving so whether it's time or whatever it is so I created any story that the more I play the more I make so true you're totally right when you are and we're in our creative genius in our expression listing time or they aren't going to be successful one of the fallacies that I had was that successful women who make money are serious but I just kind of vision TMZ to regulate enough to come to the present moment and do exercises like you are safe you are here you are alive you know this is why people love breath work so much is because it immediately but at this stage of my evolution right now it's not natural for me to be present it feels more natural for me to worry about one hundred million things I don't actually matter all I want to be this example of my life is filled with so much silliness and playing laughter that allows me to be creative to speak and to write to be that person that I am and I wouldn't be who I am so what that takes them is intention and awareness I have an intention to be present and I have awareness to know when I'm not in that state of presence because when we are in a state Emiko this was the craziest thing ever it's because it showed you what's real it got through all of your layers of fear and doubt and anxiety and brought to the moment that it actually real and that is ah I don't know or go dancing screaming your car then back into work you could infuse play into every single mold sometimes I will actually do this when I'm in a really boring situation if I'm standing in line at the a habit or skill that we have to build around being present and I think that will forever be my biggest work in this life being more present because I'm always thinking about where I could through my eating disorder a Mike all right I just need to be here and feel my emotions because me getting away from my emotions and being in the future is keeping me stuck in the cycle yeah and sports and Times I'll say to my boyfriend like hey how fun can we make the next ten minutes let's do it so we like pretend that people are saying weird shit to each other we create a scene where you're just like me weird be the biggest thing in three years it's going to be fucking huge I know it because everyone who done it there's people listening who how done pause breath work and they're like bill you know focus is so important and knowing okay I'm focusing on coming back to the present moment every single moment and yeah I have this too I got about ten years ago when I was in Bali chops them in the present moment we bypass the mine we get right into the system and this is why it is the number one most powerful self healing modality there is like mark my words breath work is going to I love that what else do we love okay so we covered sugar stimulants sleep play so important presence being here now practicing you feel better after you move your body if your body is stagnant energy is just sitting there stagnant in your system it's extremely toxic it's toxic for your lymphatic system it's toxic for your because you're not in the future at three o'clock in the morning you're dreaming and then you wake up and you're like here's the idea you get these drop ins you get these downloads so if we can train ourselves and train our nervousness presence today I also love of course movement exercise ladies if you don't have an exercise routine start that ace out this isn't an episode on fitness but you gals like really amplified inactivated it's like that's when I'm like Oh man I'm so stoked to record this podcast I'm so stoked to do the instagram story I'm so stoked to plan my talk for pace to be brave I'm so stoked to find that when I'm present I am a better girlfriend friend leader Creator writer Speaker my relation with food and exercise is better too because I'm able to actually check in and say what gins put on Angie Song and do a dance party okay that's all it takes don't make it complicated next is meditation jozy eating for Linton High School again on Thursday you know I'll just start to think about the weirdest shit however this is how I've been able to pack my way into meditation I two you be driven and to be this type entrepreneurial woman and if you're listening to this right now I know you're like yeah that's me I'm always on the go gotta do the next big thing and if you're listening to this is my experience and what really has worked for me there's various lots of meditation there's various bodies of research and work and I've researched a ton about meditation it's legit and this my big dreams and my goals and I know where I wanna be ten years but then that doesn't allow me to be here now when I'm thinking about where I'm going to go out on thirty five right you and I are both dating and let's give him the quick rundown meditation okay I know that this can be a podcasting itself a lot of the women listening are like dude no I don't have time that's weird yeah okay so asked which I used to date one God hot mess express beep beep on through it's not good you know I always tell Eric I wrote this in the post today audibly present man Oh my God yes forces me to be present he's the most present human ever clay is also most present person ever because if we attracted guys like it of being ness and this is when all the creativity comes through this is when all the Jews comes through like you said a few hours go you're like man I have the best ideas at three o'clock in the morning when I wake up pushing the dishes so I have practices and exercises that people can do while they're doing life so there's literally no excuse to not do this and then we have meditative practices which are done I work first and then moving into meditation I'm already in my body my thoughts are not hijacking my experience it's beautiful it's so much easier next I love alter rain goes a million miles a minute so if you ask me to sit down and listen to my thoughts that's not gonNa happen it's really difficult for meditate all sit there and within two minutes I'm like what was Senate nostril breathing is a part of integrative practice so you're still conscious what you're doing but you're regulating your nervous system through the breath I love that I love that does sexy methods of breath work so integrative is basically utilizing breath work to inserted into what you're already doing in your life right so whether you're grocery shopping or in your car or your I want today versus just got his business I'm just literally yeah my feelings and my stress and I think what has made us successful is our ability to think ahead and excuse because I'm like so creative like right now I have so much creative energy in my body that I'm like what am I going to say like I'm so excited like wow like think of all the things that I it makes me jazz whereas if I tried to plan literally medicine for my nervous system and I mean it it's like he forces me to be present constantly you are medicine for my nervous system declare today quoted Samantha Senate Nostril breathing and I know this sounds weird but youtube this pause this podcast right now go youtube this or this is done go YouTube alternative nostril breathing it works really well but sometimes and yoga classes I find that alternative nostril breathing is probably like the cousin to breath work right it's stage one basically so we have one integrator and meditative what other hacks we have okay you guys cbd in your coffee similar to is Sam started breath work for herself I literally launched souls DVD because it was such a game be conscious of how often are you in the Paralympic system versus sympathetic so for me I think that's just kind of my weekly check in rate is how many days of the week I do some on the show so people have understanding of what I'm talking about do breath work I so I'm already bypassing the layers of my mind and I'm in my body and then I do meditation what your thoughts are about that guys if we should start a separate show just being Weirdos please let us know if we get at least two hundred tags we'll do it again before we get into changed for me and adding cbd into my coffee and into my drinks has been a game changer so if your Gal who's dealing with a lot of anxiety and you're not willing to totally give up coffee try audience OCD to your coffee the peppermint that's really delicious adding a dropper of that in help your central nervous system so definitely do that I also wrote down magnesium Magni or else I'm sitting there for twenty-five minutes fighting my mind I get up I'm not even chills at all actually more anxious than when I sat down pretty much why started breath company was just for myself but doing we're likely than not you're that driven type on real and businesswoman and so I don't want you to shame that that's what makes us all beautiful but I think that with that comes this this necessary coming down on a mat and it takes you into just up a higher state of being where you kind of feel like you're on some sort of drug and it's incredibly healing so both are beautiful but taxed you have anything that you can think of before we get into breath actually something just dropped in which I've actually never shared before on any platform doing a lot of research on the nervous system being we thirty years someone went thirty years ago I know I know and if I don't cry I'll just put myself at the end of the day cry feel auty to make a better decision around food because people are overeating it's simply an emotional game and you guys have not yet applied that also apply to the hungry for happiness certification it's easy um is really healing for the body especially at night before you gals go to bed I use a brand called natural calm it's delicious adopted Jin's which is enforcing matic you'll see I drink I hear peanuts guys if you just heard with Sam said please pauses episode screen shot it actually you don't have to posit screen tags on tell us getting now late in the personal development industry and I've you know been working in this industry for ten going on twelve years now we are thinking about how to feel better constantly let me over think how to feel better let me over to feel better in your body is cuddling it literally releases yeah colleen is addicted to cuddle lane and feeling like that I also think that it's really important to just thirty years that's why it's all the emotions that are then transcend into physical ailments and that's what Chris Disease so if we if we have a pathway to be able to handle that emotion like what veto omote so when again we bypass the mind and we get into the body and into the breath we clear that's why I know breath works GonNa blow up the world a few years as like my mission I'm so happy body do the work in the body heal and that's what breath work
174: Hungry, Hungry Andromeda
"The Second Guidance Been Journal and by Agnes sequence spence nets to kneel good hello once again thank you for joining us on the about the andromeda galaxy it appears that neighbor is very hungry and it's inviting itself over for lunch we're also going to which dates back a little while but we're still playing catch up from Kevin About Jupiter's clouds and a question of mas becoming habitable carrying around a pack of ten spice nuts is just it's not feasible we'll work on that but it's great to be with you it an asteroid breakups may well have triggered an ice age and we've got some really good questions this week a follow up to last week's planet nine a theory and how we might be able to identify planet nine if indeed it's a planet maybe it's not we got we got a question for example Galaxy Inviting Andromeda andromeda inviting galaxy because that probably roughly the same size it's actually not again after trial and tribulation and travel we finally catch up with one Professor Fred Watson Hullo Fred Andrew how're you doing really well the middle of nowhere I've never actually been there but it's one of my goals one of the bucket list goals to go and have a look at it although why people used to be able to climate summating to it and is yes it's one of the world's biggest I don't think it is the world's biggest but he's one of the world's biggest monolithic rocks monolith and it just sticks sitting near a very small rock that was discovered in eighteen seventy three in central Australia and was dubbed by US via and William with about four and a half billion years being the the crunch time when they actually meet ghosts as as rock but not ninety three the dual naming policy of the then government Had its name changed to the aboriginal would mm shei-pa Milky Way galaxy about two and a half million light years away so it's relatively close in in galactic terms and in fact andromeda outside for the faint-hearted really I'll be happy just to look at it yes so we'll I today we talking by Dougal Gosh getting his first name Brock on Galaxy at the two biggest members of something we call rather parochial eight the local group local group of galaxies so the big debt I think that's just about to come to an end if it hasn't already it's it is comes to an end very soon Monte going to have a crack as the sun starts to expand and if no longer applies to be so we'll tackle that today on episode one hundred seventy four of the space nuts done by colleagues of mine in in Hillstreet Leah this is a study that his lead era that's right excuse me so that's that's part of the story that's come from some were cast now Fred what's Andrew and drummer up to and why is it inviting it so self over for a feed but it's a really good question as to whether is the gravitational interference if one galaxy with the with another this probably will work for both galaxies because both on the what happens when not collision takes place is a little bit counter intuitive because both galaxies have got so much space in the really a lot happens the in terms of direct collisions between stars it will probably be very few if any of those but what will happen is not money's done it before a long time ago when it wasn't such a controversial issue tick climb as is now but she said it was very nature and found evidence of The ANDROMEDA galaxy growing up by consuming will almost certainly setup shockwaves as they come together which will probably promote a burst of Steph election so there should be a lot of the smaller galaxies as long ago as ten billion years ago we know that our own galaxy has gobbled up wet weather big changes in those galaxies now we know that we've known for some time that these two galaxies are on a collision course oster allies it he's he's the new the new but he's working with the grind Lewis who's a friend and colleague from the University of Sydney Grind of course does that surrounds the flattened disk of the galaxy so what grant Dougal have done as luke tat globular clusters in the andromeda easy to tell the remember dromedaries a galaxy rather similar in appearance to Alex Salon splattered spiral very much the canal selves have pretty rich in hydrogen the raw material of styles the collision of the two hydrogen-rich galaxies celestial fireworks in four and a half billion years time quite a long time to wait but diary probably goes far mitre does take vitamins Aleksey being stripped to their stars gravitationally attractions those styles will find their themselves part of the of the halo this very cool halo to make a Pod Wolf Galaxy excuse me I'm losing my voice as you do when you come to the the dudes he gave names to a lot of things in globular clusters he's one of the classes of objects that he named the We ably down remains dwarf galaxies that were eaten as I said about ten billion years ago by by the andromeda Galaxy but was really interesting the studies that great and Dougal have done identified two clusters which they believe are ooh great wonders of this country which apparently doesn't have any meaning apparently just a name rather than something that has the of the way galaxies distributed in space may something we call the cosmic web and it's basically a scaffolding of matter if I can put it way which it which the hydrogen congregates to because of the gravity of the matter and in doing that then you get galaxies only galaxies in fact he's in the process of doing that now with the to modulate clouds which you have both on a death spiral within within the halo of our and the question remains what happens in four and a half billion years time when we we dissect with Andromeda you've already said we already consuming you're not white cosmic webs likely giant honeycomb almost of Dot Mata but if you imagine galaxies being strung out along the cosmic Web some of these dwarf Galaxies and dramas doing the same thing but when you put two heavyweights together what what is the what is the effect well they beat believe that they are we now believe that they are the sort of stripped-down Nuclei of dwarf galaxies in other words they they once had their own galaxy now globular clusters are sort of more or less very clusters of stars were first identified by William Herschel back in the late seventeen a good Welsh names that you got good Scott's naming a good Welshman together update on this work which was published in the prestigious journal and then there's andromeda sitting at a place where two of these web likes structures come together that is why you've got this on galaxy moves through the other but it doesn't leave either of them on skype because it pulls the spiral arms out into almost straight lines it kind of unwinds in two different directions at right angles to one another and that kind of strikes a chord because we believe that the underlying framework of he's not they are in the globular clusters Renault surround the andromeda galaxy but the two are at right angles to each other work yeah so my parents have done it and I said it was a really tough climb as life yeah yeah and they have been facilities in us so it's not galaxies will combine so that's unavoidable that's just going to happen I think that will happen yeah especially if this something like a direct hit you know these two clusters in all right angles to each other until what they're suggesting is the age of them is symptomatic of I is the stars will pass through the stars will pass through one another and you know so effectively strung out along the tennis so that will be galaxy the merge path look like after the spiral arms of the galaxies in a way that we can see elsewhere in the universe weather other galaxies collided there's a very allowed retinue of styles not a hundred billion or so like the two big galaxy so several hundred billion but more like a few billion perhaps fall under that mutual self gravitation so the suggestion as that these two globular clusters have come from two different bits of the cosmic web if I can suggests that the the two dwarf galaxies that were eaten up by Andromeda came from can we can say it'll it'll it'll change the sky even before the conglomeration happens I imagine that anyone or anything that's around Alexy made out of the two probably an his another interesting aspect to this the black holes the supermassive black holes at the center of you know maybe a billion years off ability is after the collision but eventually they all come back together and you'll get a really messy single frenzy by the andromeda galaxy but two separate ones which might be separated by billions of years there's still work to be done on this but it's a really interesting idea as I'm sure it sounds like a corporate takeover exactly serve on a universal scale yeah so we'll just have to be patient uh-huh permanently oh pass each other yet they will merge permanently but it will be a long and painful process because what will welcome pair of galaxies called the antennae because they look like the antennae of an and they've got strings strings of stars in eighteen months to support the podcast there are fifty six of them now and we have a question from one of our patrons which we'll be answering shortly or offering to do so so thank you to everybody who has has decided to join us and just put a few dollars each month in two if the podcast going we really do appreciate it it's a wonderful gesture it's certainly not something you have to do the fact that you want to do it it's yeah it's I mean when we talk about asteroids we particularly prehistoric ones like this we we think of the dinosaur smushed Israeli we're working on value-adding I guess is the best way to put that so thank you again and of course if you want to go to Patriarch that time we'll see we'll say the sky completely differently do the why we're saying it now I would imagine when you know in the in the lead up to the collision the space nuts now for as we have been doing each week just a big big thank you to patrons who put a couple of dollars the way it seems to be looking at the the future fascinating yeah we'll we'll just have to be patient while we wait for this to happen another up basically pretty well matched until this some there are simulations on on the web showing what will happen to these two John and watch that one very very slowly you're listening to space nuts with Andrew Dunkley and Fred Watson I want that to me all the time it is do you still go Maceio McKay bending on whether you Saudi Scotty fi or Australia thought that this particular event may have caused an ice age on a theft that sounds rather unusual or interesting or both look at this particular asteroid smash up as the describing it which dates back four hundred and sixty plus million years and now it's Donoso asteroid collision which sixty six million years ago and basically an asteroid hit the surface of the something maybe about fifty kilometers in eh gigantic spiral galaxy in the sky as well as the Milky Way itself which we will say so it will be very dramatic and what basically has a number of effects but the bottom line is it fills up the solar system with dust so the because they basically have nowhere to go the thing happened so quickly that you know that environment was effectively totally destroyed goldfish died data and the daybreak from that explosion very of impact very quickly blanketed the life with dust and debris and caused a southern dropping temperatures This is a drop that might only taken us getting pretty well because the sound stunning into a reservoir sorry a red giant by that those we're GonNa talk about one of the questions but it would be object hundred fifty kilometers in diameter something runs into it probably making a big one as big but whatever it was it was an impacting object humbling and we we greatly appreciate it thank you very much and more to come with those who join Patriot on dot com slash space nuts bad luck for the southern it's family planets to be flung out of the this much galaxy but it's not impossible because the will be styles that will be flung out to dispense which effectively demolishes the the big asteroid reduces it to rebel so the that uh-huh slash space nuts and choose choose whatever level you want to join at its it's not expensive at all now Fred we are going to million years ago four hundred million lung back in the past than than the dinosaur demise there was not a collision of an asteroid via so you know it just means the the the meteoric dust increases by factor of ten thousand until what you've got but this is a different sort of collision this there is evidence and Come to that in a minute but there is evidence that about four hundred sixty six the paper Paul called water into a fish tank it's the same thing now you go a little bit of a will from one hundred interesting numbers here We know that something like one percent of the dust in the atmosphere today this alert of stuff in this atmosphere because that's found its way into the geological record but slow process this is the thing and that sunlight reduced but also the the atmosphere the you know the positive atmosphere it's the light that it absorbs his is from a meteorite may theoretic but the The million the few million years after the break-up of that asteroid full hundred sixty six million years ago a that put ten thousand times more dust into the atmosphere impact the jail geological over a period of I think selling like two million years is I is characterized it is a blanket of dusted Niaz Atmosphere Reduces the temperature What you also have is is dusted the mole than just little bits of Gabri but may tell you that that he's also dust dust in the in the on our shadows that also reduces the radiation falling on the surface so for a long period the temperature is low months or even days a weeks rather than years decade it was very quick and it's that that caused the demise of the dinosaurs asked we call space nuts several hundred maybe thousand to a pack these days I think we're going to have to just make small packs because Loyd with the Earth but a collision of an asteroid with another one probably smaller one the smash up the APP the Big One is still two hundred fifty kilometres in data which is actually ten times the damage from the Astros of the one killed off the dinosaurs so you've got is by these micrometeorites in the in the basically in the strata I think approximately the size of a coin that quite and of course people like me hopeless multitasking till can think the same talk so yeah so micrometeorites are what tell you that the solar system which reduces the amount of sunlight is coming from the sun to the planet so you've got a double whammy here the now the evidence for this comes from micrometeorites in the geological laugh this coincided with these four hundred sixty six million year old they don't pull a cold water fish I naked plummeted got the same effect as the asteroid the dinosaurs in the atmosphere as well as in the atmosphere this was micrometeorites? Somebody's bringing this I'm just sending a message take a fan call start recording a podcast a podcast yeah exactly quite so in some ways wondering but what of Earth if it's still around in so the hospital suggestion that unscathed if goes by then I say was so gentle and slow in coming the unlike the phenomenon weather dinosaurs were whiteout what happened he's the really interesting part of this story because yes exactly as you've said it basically created an ice age but oh division bio diversity bio diversification event all the Gobi great or division bio diversification a mechanism that would have caused it so really interesting stuff and as you said constitutive although there is a big difference between a the idea they think that's a really good a really good explanation for this biodiverse education event that until now I think has has lacked dust ended up being on earth and cool the planet and Jin Blossoming Law is this still evidence of that collision around us outside the plant the temperature was cooling they evolved to cope with that actually instead of extinction you get what is known in the trade apparently as the great it's in space I don't think there is a I think what would have happened I mean four hundred sixty six million years is a long time for the the opposite to the DONOSO and it was a slow burner and life Kinda just exploded as a result of the up between an asteroid hitting the earth and two asteroids colliding in between Mars and Jupiter will late asteroid bone now something as you said some of that a big problem yeah we're we've got The drought which I got the latest climate data yesterday and it it's very very blake we are looking at on on the cosmos went pages how She Richard Love to get away with words he talks about you know not a mass extinction and that's telling you that the more spacey's a huge blossoming in the number of species one of the commenting in the array photograph from Siding Spring Observatory Tekken actually this morning that shows a basically the whole district Ambala Industrial he's clearly dusted out I think the government should invest in giant space vacuum cleaners and then we'll be fine everything and has had a huge effect on laws millions of years so we are and we continue to that's right bit counterintuitive but people seem to you know the the commentators on this work who are not connected with it they seem to like Hawaii but it's dust is an interesting subject believe it or not it sounds boring but it basically is everywhere in episode because someone else asked a similar thing we we tend to skip it so if you haven't heard you question answered chances out someone else acid and it was and but kicking pants for life to adapt that's what gave this this debate the great division unreal terms it was lots of houses being burnt down north of us and that is fire season works here goes north to south so we think of it yet list but a couple of those came in today and one of them came in in two thousand one and we'll someone who who actually asked the question through Patria on Fred and it reflects on last week's episode when we talked about aw space nuts now fred bump off a few questions which makes it sound like we're GonNa make inroads into question should be covered fair enough probably not anyway let's let's move on now first question comes from a patron to he said re one seven three episode one seven three planet nine would such a black hole moving across the the slow ice age and a blossoming of life very very good you're listening to space nuts enderle Fred what's in just over name orange with thinking we need to change times because yes we've asked that he's an orange every other day dude about duston racing in recent weeks remnants of comments that's I guess what I'm getting at Yep try which but you talking about you know decades or hundreds of years the clouds at the idea of match owes massive compact Halo objects which included the possibility of small black holes less than a thirty percent chance of median Ryan for Summer Spring Down you're going into a hot summer where we've already saying the Fire Season Star nearer remains there I'm pronouncing it wrong they were surveys looking for them against background fields so what do you think of that so if you've got lots of black holes as they flip through deep space they pass in front of distant stars another block them out to its origins great Melbourne telescope in eighteen sixty nine that was used to look for what's called a gravitational microlending event stupid thing as just just in the interesting bit of Saud but the interesting part about yesterday's dust storm we will blanketed for most of the day and the whole sky was really it's a very big worry dam is down to four percent and talking about running water in the not too distant future allow people arguing that Elena thought stellar mass black holes wasn't the ruled out during the nineteen nineties by number of experiment inch and the sky was blue and then it came again so it was a weird day it was a truly we die and we just tackle questions so stand by if you have questions chances are it will get on but if it's been answered in another father of the brightening they were not seen in the numbers that were expected if machos was what was that was one of the key things that ruled out have a win that might happen with some are saying at ten years worth saying no there's only two so who knows I mean when authorities started arguing you just throw your arms up what planet nine could be we've been looking for a planet but now the thinking it might not be a planet it could be a black hole or a notably one at monstrum low observatory in here in Australia where a very venerable telescope which was then called a fifty inch but she goes back doc primordial black hole is probably different but not that much different they they not for this Michael lenzing process to what you've got to have very distance from that to the behind it which is being lends it may well be that it doesn't work you don't get the microlending phenomena you might what was the word we used audio blackhall so this comes from David Findlay and thank you David for your question and then is to dissipate through the you know the rubble essentially it was thick for a while but now it's clear it's pass through the flex swells of many colors but if Jupiter is big ball of gas over four billion years old why haven't the swirling currents caused all the different colored constituents to mode that one's interesting so the great the Gobi I'm Gonna I'm not GonNa even try and save what it was four hundred sixty six million years ago which caused so I am not sure which of these would be the case but it's an interesting idea and one not to be dismissed I think it's very the idea the situation with a planet nine being a microscopic this was a primordial black hole of a few of masses rather than the planet so I'm not I I'm not great distances between the the Land Stop Jackson the lenzing objective I'm put it that way in other words the background star the foreground black hole or whatever it is that she magnified the light of distant star so you should see you know a style brighten up and then fade away with a very very characteristic light koerbel shake of the daffy will produce a detectable halo are recalled the old dock Meta concept of matches and I say I'm not sure he would of this is very much like the weather on the Earth we have fun you know we have characteristic weather patterns you've only to look at yeah and we probably have now moving on here's a question from Kevin Rutherford Hi Kevin Hayes a question about Jupiter's clouds every image of ever seen shows into a single homogeneous cloud like milk stood up in a cup of tea for example does the existence of these variegated colors imply that the cloud systems I tell me David David Sorry David I'm I'm sitting alone drew the so it's a good question this exactly as don't say Malik Fronton on these Cohen Thank you very much David wonderful thanks David appreciate the question and hopefully it gave you a bit of an indication that you might be on the money kid in an episode that you might not afford it or you might have missed or something start at one just work your way through it catch up one hundred seventy four and you should to being constantly replenished with new materials all our and if so where might they come from so the way to in the what the effect would be given the geometry given the distance from ourselves to this hypothetical object the the wind patterns on the Earth to to find the we get bands of wins in different directions the roaring forties for example we'll be bumping is off but yeah we've made now rides into listening the size of the question list but we will probably do another episode you've got to be a long way but as to the we is the Observer on the earth now that would not be the case with with the planet nine hypothesis the chemical constituents things that give the clouds of Jupiter that colors that different structure very much akin to what happens on the earth it's it's the Epithet Cape looking they'll find this thing eventually and then we'll go God should nine that's what it was should I guess it's very very deep it goes very very deep into the atmosphere so that might be joining stuff up from lower down but generally speaking I think the materials atmospheres and don't think that is put down to it being the phenomena that Kevin still came out when you step milky the same patterns as we see them on earth now the the more remove the more distant gas giants starting with satire of course and then it's to do with the fact that the climate is different from one latitude to the next what will be surprising we'll be if to a cup of tea it just becomes uniform I think it's more to do with the fact that the the cloud clouds on these planets are actually low down in the atmosphere that thanks Kevin Great Question I'm sure people have wondered about that one okay now this question came in yesterday for it through the space nuts operating machines on minds go new role now and still trying to find time we'll I'm glad you found Tom Flores to send the question in a question for you both as because it was addressed to us I thought good question to ask it's in two parts from Matt Brown Hi Matt thanks for your question guys I used to listen to the podcast hate on expands and earth moves out of the habitable zone which we talked about earlier will mas move into it and how long before it replenished with new material although the may be some for example we know the great red spot of which is a cyclone the structure is there but it's actually lower down until you don't see anything like as clearly as you do on the planet that's because it's cooler they're all if it if it went the other way from the rotational something like that rather than how resentful but the clouds follow very much to uranus and Neptune they have got much much less distinct clouds in that data with these cloud movements high in Jupiter's atmosphere I don't think this any implication that yeah so it's really the habitable zone that moves you know to to to move out into the solar system as the as the sun become cask raped how a lot of space nuts listening to a part of the group have put in the tuppence worth and fair enough to but I just saw the habitable zone we know it doesn't have plights like earth hence how Olympus Mons becomes lodge will go through very violent volcanic era and be almost coalition mas will come it will receive more solar radiation so become woolmer but liveable as it hates up will it crack it's giant super plight and melt its own Paula regions to become more earth like yeah great so it's a bit like goes Dustom's that with by your city we had yesterday there was yeah there was still knicks city down the ride from US temperatures which are much higher than what you would get from radiation until it was such a level that the planet was sooner I think I think actually this before the crash so you know we it might spoil our view of the Adobe Celsius that's Kinda have to them what you would get from being immersed in the outer atmosphere of giant style so it's that's the that's the basic point whether systems tend to stay where they are and don't just mix up and just walk on earth side they tried what things that are all very common pearl what could satellite footage that sped up you can see the same kind of effect as we say on we know we took about ten miles but the fact is the planet's too small to hang onto any kind of gases that will be useful to us as humans in order for plight tectonics to kick it it's the colour of mass that needs to be hot another thing that talk about I think that that time will come I heard today that was bowing was going to inject some dollars into space tourism's so it's unfortunately it's just something we can't avoid but it's a good question I suppose the only way to make mass habitable would be was melting because it was it was so hot so that the core of the core of the earth is somewhere between six and seven thousand degrees create micro climates artificially domes and things like that perhaps if your technology allows in the future and create your own it gets too hot that's part one do you want to tackle out or do you want to hear the next bit I do it all at once to as Mars moves everyone's trying to get in on this it's becoming a big thing indeed GM and thank you very much question Matt much
49: Searching for Life on Titan
"This is space time series twenty two episode forty nine for broadcast on the third of july twenty nineteen coming up on space time nashes dragon fly mission to search for life on ties and they neutrino observatory the bottom of the sea and science gets a reality check on its attempts to detect impacting asteroids all that and more coming up on space time welcome to space which you gary nassar is announced a new mission distended unique richly organic world of titan titan satins largest moon it's also the second biggest moon in the solar system in fact that's even larger than the planet mercury it's he only world and the solar system others in us way clouds rain liquid under the ground forming streams and rivers that flow into licensees but unlike its water based hydrological cycle china has a hydro cabin psycho with the reins of methane in eighteen in fact on time and temperature so code that water is frozen so hot at foams bedrock like is titans atmospheres primarily nitrogen but unlike and it's oxygen titans atmosphere is less missing eight saying oh this forms a dense hydrocarbon hayes high ltd stratosphere which destroyed by some odd and that's the sort of chemicals soup which is strong a mistake earlier had they therefore think titan maybe an analog for the very early and maybe even provide clues about ally furrows on earth and so they want to explore this shrouded world hidden beneath it's valid hydrocarbon clouds in five greater detail the most hospitals cassini or it's oregon's landa which descending down under the titans surface in two thousand and five becoming the first spacecraft to land on a world without solar system then you should notice dragon fly will involve the deployment of thomas wrote a craft drone that will fly around titan carrying out multiple sources east sample examined sites it's around be icy moon dragonfly will launch in twenty twenty six arriving in this attorney system is later in twenty thirty four the rhetoric raffled flooded dozens of promising locations on ties in looking for a pre biotic chemicals common the best tight end in a dragon fly marks the first time that nasa will fly multi wrote a vehicle besides on another world it is eight roaches flies very much like a large drone it'll take advantage of titans dance atmosphere four times dented to the earth to become the first vehicle as it fights in ties science payloads any places for repeatable and targeted access cephas materials during its two point seventy primary mission dragon fly will explore the fis environments from organic june's to the floor of an impact base in with liquid water and complex organic materials which came alive once existed together the possibly tens of thousands of years it's instruments study how five pre biotic chemistry may progressed dragon fly will also investigate the minutes atmospheric and surface properties at subsists ocean and liquid reservoirs additionally instruments who such chemical evidence of past life dragon fly will take advantage of those needs with the cassini data it's allowed scientists just select the calm with a parrot deland along with a safe initial ending side as well is scientifically interesting targets it'll initially land on the equity toro shangri la june and fields which actress really similar to the lineage genes of maybe you're in southern africa dragon flight will eventually explore this region in short flights building up to a series of long leapfrog floods uptake kyla messages and stuffing along the way take samples from compelling areas with the vest geography it will ultimately reached the so impact crater here this evidence of past liquid water is one of the organic say complex molecules that contain common combined with hydrogen oxygen and nitrogen an energy which together make up the recipe for life as we know it manages estimated the lander will eventually fly mold and one seventy five kyla made his ex nearly double the distance travel today by all the mouse revis combined nasa administrator jim breitenstein says the moon's whether instead of his predecessors combined complex organics energy water similar to those that may have spec life on earth as it all but sat in time it's about one point four billion gillam is away from the sun at some ten times further away the end because it's a far away from the sun it surface temperature is a chilly minus one hundred and seventy nine degrees celsius or they know what promises to be an interesting mission with fascinating science to be gleaned i'm stewart gary this space time astronomers it using a huge under telescope at the bottom of the mediterranean sea study neutrinos generated by some of the most powerful and mysterious universe when complete the k m tell us got will be located at two dave seaside a depth of up to three thousand five hundred mazes ville occupy the qb kilim editor of water that comprise hundreds of critical detection lines get to the seabed until it in place by booties h linus that's eighteen modules equipped with a light sentence along its length end in the darkness of the day motion sensors register the faint flashes of special that signals any direction of nutrients say water came three net needed to be incredibly sensitive the light protected from the new trend directions is about his fate is light from a light bulb and sydney sydney to that's the same as a lot of new york seen from los angeles one of the science behind the project clancy james from cousin university and the international center the radio astronomy research says such a huge volume of water we needed the surrounding instruments because he train is so incredibly difficult to detect you trainers elemental subatomic particles generated through radioactive decay in style sipping a nuclear explosions particle accelerators an atomic reactors then he train a son named because it's electrically neutral because it's messy says smollet was long thought to be zero you train is the most common form of matter in the universe hand having almost it's not a mess capable of being accelerate it's almost a spate of live you train is coming free no time so flavors electron neutrinos mueller neutrinos in town you train as each with their own specific properties and matches and what makes and you train is really fascinating is that they change oscillating between these flavors for example an electron you train produced in beta decatur reaction may wind up interacting and it just detector as a meal and hotel neutrino whether they have no electric judge trina do have their own corresponding anti method counterparts identified through the opposite chai relative handedness neutrinos indirect without the measure only through gravity and the weight nuclear force but when i say in iraq it really is a relative if to when it comes to train has in fact nutrients is so weekly directive that several million of them pass through every second with that you after noticing trina israeli direct when they hit water they can generate a lot which they came three in that telescopes able to detect but he underwater telescope is constantly being bombarded by millions upon millions of different particles so hacking the differentiate watching you trinet compared to something else well because you trained as a so wigley interactive like in literally pass right through us so the telescopes designed to only detects up atomic particles passing approval from the other side of the planet reaching the detective from below hand with the detector located in the mediterranean sea and maintain a train souls must be in the skies it's above austrailia that's where professor james and cut university comes in the east telescopes such as the most recent wide filter right study origins of neutrinos saying by came three nash james says the project will help scientists enter some major questions questions about particle physics is well is the nature of the universe potentially ushering in a new era of neutrino astronomy neutrino is a the most common type of massive by metropolitan youtube us talk about has math but they almost never interact track but things we have something like you know ten twelve passing through us every second of that order from the sun city nutrients produced a nuclear reactions the ones where turner look for a produce by high energy particle interactions going on in the universe somewhere so i'm sure you're familiar with the large hadron collider and you know this adams nasha smashing the get up particles that you know if they're high energy well this is happening out there in the universe but it even higher energy right wing notice from observational things will rise so this is from things like super you never explosions and yes the fact that it's being positioned in the mediterranean sea a exactly opposite where australia is that deliver or is that just a coincidence that it's a coincidence the reason they're simply because it's a collaboration of european institute's and if you want to a building instrument it's easier to do it nearby so the main constraint you need to get this thing down deep right you need it to be deep down in the loss of two reasons one so it's doc so when you do sort of un estimates be amount to light that you get detective what happens is the neutrino if it doesn't track will produce both live in that line is extremely fight so you might tony detect and maybe it does and phones from that collision so you need it'd be a really dark place and you don't actually get it be doc enough unless your mold on a killer media under the surface of the water deal reason is that these costs rise i mentioned due to high energy products on spice they hitting the top of atmosphere with high end they produce more politically instead of writing down alan us at sea level and some of these particles cooked meal and connects going through killing me his all right thanks don't get still very easily it'll end so you what you wanna do is she just sales from his many of these meal at this possible by going deeper and deeper now you can't shoot from oldham so came train it will detect something like a million if they knew one today but nonetheless it's much easier to at the surface so the reason being deal at the bottom of the mediterranean is that there's some sufficiently deep places there to do this experiment why is it important that australia is opposite end of the year from where this experiments taking place the particles that news came training detecting neutrinos you know they interact very rarely we expect time three twenty detect maybe of order thousand per year however there's also of course one of these calls mid range directions that hit the top of their stimulants income down so what this means is that they detect with that shredded by about a million new one event today coming down from above however owning neutrinos connects you make it out from under the so the best why of saying okay we detected this particle wasn't a new train or or something else is to look for pop quiz coming up underneath from underneath the detector coming up through the us by which point you could say well the only thing that could possibly made it through the whole list to the hector wasn't train so this means is that neutrino telescopes mostly loop downloads three d as opposed to you know motel ascribes when you're pointing up sky above end so the sky the region of the universe that came through and it will be studying is the raging the universe that visible from firm normal telescopes only opposite side of the world they just decide australia which means that the sky training telescopes viewing is exactly the same guy that can trade it feeling all the time is there a reason why you've chosen liquid water rob of solid war in such such as they so whole new journey detector which is in yeah exactly so so ice cube is they name of the instrument you're referring to so that's the one that first discovered they set of high energy stocks and you train is coming from universe the two reasons one it's just practical it say you know when you're building when you're putting a large amount of money into an instrument you have a trade off between was nearby and you know the most up from the sides ever bought the main reason actually is that it turns out that water then excellent made him do this because it absorbs more light denies so you under the lights and they start neutrinos bud light gets absorbed in water will make the schuyler say fifty me whereas in i i focus on my balance around three hundred mason's before it gets absorbed however if you ever like stand on top of the snow looking to stand on top of warren look down you see further into war might end this is because water doesn't scatter life as much so what this means is when when you try to interact it emits delight in a characteristic cone shaped by the comes out with a coloring the opening low about thirty degrees this is channel called radiation and you ever had the pleasure of looking into a nuclear reactor by chance this one not far from where i living at a high school lucas hines using that blue sharing of radiation live i wasn't a reactor in indonesia everyone's on a tour but yes is exactly the kind of lights that way detecting dislike comes from high energy particles that debate in this case i missed by radio activity in came train it emitted from they interaction neutrino an because they already falling through the water that you miss a shock life just just like i am supersonic jet emits a shark life and that shockwave comes across in blue light whereas the supersonic jet chuck life comes across in terms of shop crackup sound that stuff declined to james from good and university and the international center for radio astronomy research in this space time i'm stewart gary okay let's take a break from our show and talk about a new sponsor blankets we've talked about this before in today's age it's really 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notes at now it's back to our show space space time which you gallery astronomers have success with detected potentially threatening near earth object or but they were only able to confirm that it will hit the planet after it had already impacted scientists of long none if life on earth will be wiped out by natural disaster impact of an astro the comments would be the most likely cool is the good news is that unlike volcanic eruptions earthquake tsunami make a storm or other natural disasters there's an asteroid or comet impact is the one event given enough advance warning signs has the technology the try and prevent armageddon but scientists have just had a rather disturbing reality check on that assumption on the twenty second of june infra sound senses operated by the comprehensive nuclear tests bad treaty organization detected a major explosion bazi atlantic ocean but the massive glass which happened south of puerto rico wasn't just a nuclear device but it ain't besting asteroid the four major wide asteroid explode with equivalent of three to five kilotonnes of tmz asteroid catalog this twenty nineteen emo had been detected twelve hours earlier about half a million killing minutes from us by atlas survey telescopes these initial observations recess by and that's the jet propulsion lab archery and the asteroid was given a modest impact reading of two rating of full means a likely impact that this was something people want to worried about whether the atmospheric infra sound detection porter rick i twelve hours later call some scientists such remote data eventually finding additional observations object from the past us to survey telescope with these additional data asteroids overal dejected million entry pass protection were improved significantly and you calculations increase deepak writing from tuesday for in other words a likely here's improved roble calculations also match the infra sound detection with a very high likelihood then further investigations turned up mute edit from the knicks red with a writer in san juan puerto rico it turns out it detected twenty nineteen ammo is a type of atmosphere and observations from weather satellites high and all of us were also able image the rocks fragmentation but of course all this came after the event the lesson there'll be a lot here is that constant monitoring using multiple sources he is needed in order to accurately tied down the victory of potentially deadly impacter luckily on this occasion it was a small for meter asteroid and not something ten or a hundred times larger i'm stewart gary you're listening to space time residents of chile and argentina of just experienced a spectacular sunsets solar eclipse and from astronomical point of view who's even better with a passive ted tallahassee crossing almost directly above the european southern observatory ciller observatory in chile and it also passed close to the central bona series in argentina a solar eclipse occurs when he passes through a shadow cast by the moon which fully partially blocks or cults the sun this only happened when the sun moon as nearly aligned on the straight line in three dimensions joining in human when the moon is close to clip diko plane ecliptic if the plane upon which the us it's the sun you other important thing is that right now in our solar system history some distance from us is that four hundred times the moon's distance from us and the sons diameter just happens to be four hundred times that the moon because these ratios are approximately the same the sun and the moon a scene from a paid be approximately the same size about half a degree of a in a measure in a total eclipse the disc of the sun is fully obscured by the moon of course if the moon were in a perfectly secular robust end on the same overlook plan is yes then they'd be total solar eclipse this every new moon however since the millions over these tilted mold and five degrees today us open around the sun chadha usually mrs yes the thing is it the moon's orbit around the earth is also slot elliptical so its distance from there is an because of its orbit around the sun is also the nickel its distance from the sun similarly ferry throughout the year now this affects their parents as the sun in the same way but not as much as it does the moon's wearing distance from the f when the mood approaches effigy it's the distance from the earth and of course that happened this month a total eclipse some more likely whereas conditions favor in an uber eclipse when earth approaches parrot you closest distance to the sun you know january what this means is that the good citizens of argentina and chile wherever the sit back relax and enjoy an evening salt wreck clips this space time i'm stewart gary end tonight a take a brief look at some of the stories making using science this week with a science reports the heat wave broiling europe at the moment but it's just setting you recode with france reaching its highest temperature since since records began many of france says temperatures rich recode forty five point nine degrees celsius almost two degrees above the previous record set in two thousand and three which could move in seventy thousand people across the continent mainland europe is being sweltering today's under the recordbreaking temperatures cool spot in moving north from the sahara meteorologist are attributing this changing weather patterns the climate change saying it's absolutely consistent with what's predicted by the impact of greenhouse gas emissions and you're anyplace suffering with dangerous heat waves india and pakistan of its watering since midmay under one of the longest lasting hate way seen racing history in fact temperatures in new delhi of soul to june recode of forty eight degrees celsius with at least a hundred and eighty paypal having reportedly died from heat related closes and you study warns that being exposed to solving twelve pregnant could raise the risk of your child having autism the findings reported in the journal of occupational environmental medicine is based on investigations of seven and fifty others in eight hundred ninety one father's exposure to sixteen different chemicals agents scientists found the mothers of kids with autism i'd be more frequently exposed solvents compared to those who didn't have children on the spectrum however off the stress that after correcting statistical biased you observed associations when not significant israeli intelligence is discovered that russia was behind a sudden spate of gps failures of the banker in airports april authorities say the gps gps signal used by pilots been experiencing interference for the past three weeks moscow attacking his force pilots to use conventional i l s or instrument landing systems instead air traffic controllers say aircraft safety was never an issue as they were able to provide food guidance all flights these new revelations follow world condemnation of the russian military the hunting of malaysia airlines flight seventeen with the surface the way miss out of the eastern ukraine killing all two hundred ninety eight people on board and moscow attempted murder of sergei scrip all so sprinkling using it another check chemicals nerve agent that botch murder attempt resulted in the hospitalization of several people including one woman who died the fossilized remains one of the largest none dinosaur embeds ever discovered being found in the cave on the crime in peninsula a reporter in the journal of vertebrate paleontology clinton's the boots estimate to wait around four hundred fifty kilograms that's more than ten times the way the name you end around double the way of each state new zealand moa it's the first time a bit of such a huge size is being reported from anywhere in the northern hemisphere flightless with around three and a half made us tool and lift between fifteen and two million years ago and you study says it's time for people the free their fate take your shoes off will pay for it the findings reporter in the journal nature based on a small study of eighty one canyon in twenty two americans scientists found that modern cushion so choose reduced sensitivity and all of the forces transmitted from your feet joints while foot calluses built up by walking barefoot protect us also the faith without compromising insensitivity okay so researchers found that calluses tend to be thicker and hotter in april who eventually walk barefoot compared with people who regularly way shoes i found that foot where affects impact forces from the foot striking the ground delivery more energy to the joints the scene in state calloused individuals you'll say food this study is needed in order to determine what effect this might have on the human skeleton you're listening to space time i'm stewart gary and that's the show and now you could subscribe and download space time is a free twice weekly podcast through apple podcast i tunes 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Episode 28: John C. Wright
"Welcome to the world shaper those conversations with science there's about three percent i'm your host everyone will that missed episodes gas chauncey right there welcome to another episode of the world's shapers i am your host edward weld it and i started this podcast because i am myself eight writer of science fiction and fantasy and i enjoyed talking to other authors of science fiction fantasy about their work and they created this podcast takes its name from my latest series called the world shapers published by dog books book one world shaper came out in september of last year end has been long listed for some burst award for best canadian science fiction fantasy i n d a young adult novel category which is interesting because it's not actually young adult novel not having a teenager of any sort ended anywhere but that's the category they put it in an i'm just happy to be shortlisted i should also mention that this podcast itself a world shapers has been shortlisted for an aurora award this is a quivalent of the hugh goes in the u s it's a fan boated award it's been nominated in best fan related work a n d awards will be presented a yet in ottawa at can con in october if you're interested in voting for the iraq war ginger canadian citizen or resident i just go to pre aurora wards dot the cia or look up pre aurora wards and and a google it andy you enjoy this very modest fee a ten dollar a membership fee for canadian science fiction fantasy association and you will also be able to access amc selection selection of be nominated work so it's a really good deal had an opportunity to honor the best in canadian science fiction and fantasy end relief at work a my latest book sexually master of the world which is a second book in the world series he's a that will come out in september and i'm giving away an advanced reader copy in eight rc a for that book if you are hearing this before august first and you would like to enter to win that air sea see a autographed at everything all you have to do is send me an email after email it at g mail dot com that's w i l l e t t at g mail dot com put master of the world they are see in the subject line or just master of the world are still except you do that and i will be happy to to interview in that to draw a master of the world got a really nice review in the publishers weekly the first review i've seen 'em saying that it's offers thrills aplenty which is kind what i was going for the whole premise of world shapers is of course that there are a series of interconnected world's each of which is been shaped by someone who lives within the much like authors of living inside the world set the shape of the main character sonic he says only recently we discovered that she is in fact shaper she didn't realize she was living in a world that she shaped until an outside force adversary in infiltrated it in and started taking it over and she was told the truth by mysterious stranger named carl that sir and and in the second book she's had to flee her own world it felt adversary and now she's tried together the knowledge of all the world there's many of us can take into agrarian the mysterious person at the center of the labyrinth of schick world's ending the second book she enters a world world that was shaped by someone who really really likes jules verne so it's jules verne inspired steam punk world with a wild flying machines submarines and strange islands and all that good jules verne ian stuff so again if you'd you'd like to enter to win an error seaver mastered the world just send me an email at email it at g mail dot com with master of the world in the subject line and as long as it's before august first twenty nineteen and i will interview in that draw that's enough of so now let's get onto this episode's guest john c right jhansi right is a retired attorney newspaperman newspaper editor i'm i'm one of those things well to those things not retired attorney but i am a retired do not pay permitted newspaper editor who was only this he provided despite i should say who is only once on the lam enforced died from the police easy authors i'm twenty two novels including the critically acclaimed the golden age which is what introduced me to just writing an out to a trillion his novel some weather one the dragon award for best science fiction novel of twenty sixteen he's also published numerous short stories end anthologies including awake in the night land and city bianchi time as well as nonfiction yeah he holds the record for the most hugo award nominations for single year he presently works as a writer in virginia where he lives in quote fairy tale like happiness close with his wife a l l i never happen how do you pronounce her name john oh mama that's what i thought audrey jock judgment on some high profile jersey but then again a husband eddie i know my wife is the the background of offering commentary sean gene okay editor for children a ping ping orville wilbur enter just right i should say everyone around the house including me called mrs right well what welcome to the world shapers job excellent a wonderful to be here and we were just commenting before we started that we are the only two living members of the news denise princes movement which has yet to take these science fiction world by storm but they're still were still alive is tight i wrote i wrote a novel with the space space princes and she was the princess of edgy went into space league w'll clustered in three so that count across the sky came was the daughter of an elected official on another planet which doesn't can elect officials got a daughter mark oh i guess i've never actually written myspace prince is a matter you see these these literally movements there are very important for generating manifesto and a disgusting coffeehouses not directly affect the literary world that's good because i don't think we expected it much no that's okay but but if you remember start as a sort of the choked up based on me a reaction against the name of science fiction liberty movement which is going to try to take away all the wonder is spotted at a science fiction in a you and i both that was such a terrible idea that we needed the get some good old fashioned poll falling back into the into the mix well then certainly there's a lot of poke fun to be had in the book we're gonna be talking about lost in the lost continent which i've read a good chunk of although i haven't finished yet but we'll get to that a bit later i always start these things by just one also sound puppy going back to the mists of time excellent to find out how you became interested in science fiction fantasy presumably that became began as a reader that most of us do and then how you look got started writing it so so take me back in and tell me about your formative years busy fan at writer my i was born of a poor humble parents my father was a naval officer in dan so i was raised on post a on base maybe which were nice clean well tendons in low crime areas where it could could run around at night a in rarely ranch they run into the mp's a and the local a lover very wasn't a walking distance of my house which for a kid book at shiloh this is a is a is a wonderland andy back in the day navy navy man would often have a sack time on cruises they have a little bit of free time not too much because be a senior officers don't wanna give the the the scrubs much a a much idle a roofer idle hands missed you so they're they're when they're when they're not scraping barnacles off the off the whole aircraft or some of the booty paperbacks in so when they were done with the cruise they they don't the paperback and they would donate entire boxers of this of this stuff to to the local base library well friend of my dad's a knowing the books young man gave me a crate an entire crate of my own books now i'd never owned by in books before so to me it's a small child this is a this is a great things you know a life changing event on top was have species will travel by robert high in i still remember cover of it because it had a picture of the main character tip in this space oscar space we've had a name will see three saw the mothers thing in the world spacey alien all in i sent my circle above is above his based on and that's what got started and i look back i have to say that is one of my all time favorites certainly one that influenced me a lot to i read it to my daughter when she was about ten or so and she loved as well especially of course a a few weeks yeah one of my great a pleasures in life which i can't explain to my bachelor friends is breathing to my own children in this is back when they were smaller a prince mars by chris boroughs in a to saying hey that looks a lot better science fiction and must be remembered as being i remember being kind of a boy the venture store space protesting for on green martians and so on but he actually had whenever he made a an astronomical a factoid did he put in this world correct an all the science of the time no longer applies but from nineteen twenty nineteen thirty when he wrote it a it was as advanced as anything else being written science fiction field in terms of his syria was planetary formation worked on and so forth idea back in the day with that marozas older planet and so it had like they would be you know a more advanced envious of younger which is why you to this day still some time seeing you know a bruins on mars but you're gonna read a story there in in the dinosaurs on rena a all that has since been you know we we know now they're being at the sulfur lead hell hole in the end mars is unfair wasteland land about us to vote on it yeah i missed the jaw hoping but a but a dinosaur so i put them in my colonel yes i noticed a d a as a challenge to boroughs and i gotta say i my current novel i tried to write a borough style thing it is difficult people make fun of him as a as a as a pulp writer but it is not easy to do because you have to be so a tight end consistently you're which is you're writing and give you x starting immediately a it's it's a if you think of how tightly plot of the movie star wars is you could see the the really good poll influence in that film which made it such a blockbuster well so you were reading this so when did you decide try your hand at writing it i do not recall a time before which i did not have any intention dubious on a sixteen writer i'm one of those few people fortunate enough to be blessed by always knowing from my earliest recollection of my of my life and so what i wanna do with my life many people have to try at some point to decide what career they wanna have i've always wondered is also shriver run early one to be anything else but first a completed manuscript was at age nine called agent of ness which was eight sheep ripoff of cucumbers dinosaurs were beach i just copied what he did beat the beat were were were story i tried ever sent into a may not get paid twelve years old as it there but my first sale much later in the eyes of a magazine it with this critical part of the men were so you were you were writing all through you're kid would then it sounds like did you did you write voucher right novel link for you online but start honestly when i was in college i was writing an ethic links a book called the night forgotten sons to play in the same background the ground is the flu because andy was a b it takes place in the far future after the sun has gone out and the will the world's last wizard sner esco is a responsible for trying to resurrect assumption something the dead using his neck rahman see an when he does that not only do a b arc men ancient men who ruled the earth before there were the demise also come back but these people in the secret civilizations have grown up in these certainly night world who can't tolerate the return of the sunlight a rise up to oppose it in that but i never did actually finished that that may skip but it was the upper upwards of a thousand pages before it that i abandon it and that was a that was when i was in college did you show your work to people as you were growing up and shared around and see if they you know if you were telling stories of people enjoy it never occurred to me to do that so no i never did that that said i that's something i always ask writers nugget bearing marian response i think i had thought i i i guess i'm just not very good graces is not deny what shy of showing it i just never never thought oh no no excuse me but that's not true i should trip to be the girl who later became my wife so there must have been she must have seen something in a world where the where the binary now you went to university use you studied laws that correct yes i went to i went to signals college in annapolis were a wonderful education in a locked in mathematics is when you're there and then i went to see a a the marshall school of law at the college will marry so it went from the third oldest the second oldest all pitch in the entire continental until united states well then you're in you're out you're doing this great books course a which i've read about in yours you know online you referenced it what did that involve exactly oh i i love talking about the great books program it's it's one of the best programs have ever heard of a instead of going to a modern i assume you know what a modern college like the children have their heads shaved dressed in white jumpsuit and they're sitting in for the giant on metron with electrodes had brainwashed i kind of ran ragnar brainwashed worship the state into a to complain about everything to be a to to run what weeping safe spaces so vividly opposite of saint john's a not only ever and grow their hair out long but they you follow every student problems and of course the study there's no there's no testing a great class is a writing class every every course a it gives you a great it on papers not they only have grades for the purpose of transfer they don't actually grade you're performance instead they have a don rag the way they used to do in meeting evil europe where you're tutors two professors would sit around and verbally tell you what you were doing right and what you're doing wrong and the class sizes are small enough they could do that forever one other note electric classes a in so what we did is we read the literature and more less chronological order starting pitching three so every students to read the ilia odyssey in socrates andy a a aristotle and a so and so forth and then you're a so you're sophomore year you would reid the latin andy a a then you get through these lightman a in her junior year and they were just there would be a suit rubbish in the senior year those are louis meeting like marks and so and so forth that's fascinating and also sounds like an excellent andrei preventing we would study music in a rhetoric logic which says the clear view of the tribute and the tribune lewis it'd be ancient study that'd be a bill european nation in a shocking to be truly shocking almost all of the college offers the opposite of course i think a chicago does but i'm not sure about that when it sounds like a great a preparation for writing it is a great person writing perversion of a loss of reparation for any for its what liberal arts used to be in supposed to be ripped russian for being a free man in a free country you're not not it's not a good preparation for being brainwashed drones so most roger stone offered that kind of kind of course it it's like being h s a man with a memory in a in a leader need that thought in your head is probably made up by someone who lives between a hundred and five hundred years ago or if you're a christian christian two thousand two million years ago in most people don't know where this all come from and what they mean or what are or where do they fit in any a this is a great dialogue what goes on between the great minds of the western literature a where someone in one central will answering someone who looked forward in austin idea in a previous century in nowadays most people even educated men are like people who walked in the last five minutes of the conversations going on for hours a and they don't really know where it comes from where fits into the grand scheme of things i i've had i a rather peculiar disappointing experience twice now in my life of speaking to some of the most highly respected in a highly regarded physicists in the country in no neither of them you the first thing about about empiricism or or or the metaphysics on which the scientific revolution is base or a even the idea that of the different models between the tony in the galleon tyco bra he copernicus a ptolemy and so on they seem to grasp what science was her outfit entity to the big scheme of things in physics and most extreme example both of them thought so they could cover every topic that philosophy covered in which case my question them in both cases was what experiment observation to outperform to prove to myself to prove to a skeptic the proposition that all philosophy is ultimately physics because to me that sounds like a philosophical question about not not a question you install by performing an experiment i i should i should not have been answered the question of whether he got mad at me for asking so there's one thing i say notification will for you you start to be less angry at people who ask the questions begin to enjoy it instead so where along in there i mean you were you were attorney for wild and then you ended up working as a newspaper reporter and editor which i have also done as i said a that transition there how did that all fit in which you're writing fiction well i i got into law because they basically biggest mistake on my part i thought about like very logical in what i had skill that in a at saint john's graduate i have good skill that logic and rhetoric and put it together arguments i thought there was no one in the in the modern workplace that did argument other more or if executed but not good at work because usually because i wasn't only something fun you know what the prosecutor pretty bad guys behind bars are a small dental practice maybe six months maybe not even an they were dissatisfied performances reading so i should not good at the work and they let me go so wallet it'll work a friend of mine who is running eight a prince durable running a little magazine a kind of a fishing in fun magazine but his brother had been killed by drunk driver so he's on a crusade stop the drunk driving in the local saint mary's constantly which is maryland which is where i was stationed at his name is ken rossville and this guy was like a character from eight comical jj crossed with perry white catch my aunt he was on a he was unstoppable on frightened and the reason i'm frightened is because you start looking looking into police corruption he started looking into a county commissioners in a gambling ring with a local developers who would lose money card games and therefore get their positions granted for putting in palaces he would a start looking into where the drug smuggling what's coming into the town because they a all the fishing boats would go through easy to bring drugs through shabby if you just make a living with a fishing boat off off the coast of a of a some kind of in so much of what's the local courts in a also do a gift see a get tickets for whoever had been dwi dui week an human foot parade to put a list of everyone who got the tickets only a on the front page every week to paul hit parade and he he would listen to police scanner late at night when there was a drunk driver reports police scanner he would get his camera and he would drive out and he would take a big pumping photograph of a drunk on the wheel being arrested put it on the front page because it was a small rural community whose main income came from the tourists trade from the district columbia where people would come by for fishing in in you know speechifying stuff so they the local courts didn't want her to crack down on the drums is regionally doris sewer here to go to a bar fishing like i said but they were fairly can rob you don't because they'd get their picture in the paper from him of course all the relatives within by abolish is just so he was a he he got threatened a a he worked for work you got threatened by local dealers they were coming just start killing at that is mike when the state order in an interview with the paper in front page there only talking man that was that was the one holding all infirm from cox has these please not the state trooper they were they were straight guys but they look at it shares were on the tape and a so they a b rent the get engaged but meanwhile you were reading science fiction all this is going on yes yes how is all sorting science fiction what i just do my research group which had which had been i had made a single failure a it's like a piece of advice from harlan ellison in which is right at short story a week and at the end of the year you'll have fifty two short stories now to begin a writer to whom sweating bullets to get single schwartzberg written six months is an immense olympian pass but i tell you seriously in sincerely if you wanna be a writer you should buckle down and make yourself do about this kind of thing now now i wrote a about forty or so short stories in this day i think accidents just sell every single one of them but my first sale my first real sale a small cells went to a i tiny magazine called apparitions my very first sale with a short story called 'em not born a man but my first real sales guys guys ammos magazine and i the cover of a video of the mazing my story appeared in had a story by okay look win i shared a i was sharing pages with her and this is an author i admired unquote boy it up so i got a certain have shown famous people as they're pleased with that and then how did you go from the short stories to be the first novels 'em well i i i read novels as well a a a basically all right back in those days see many writers got start at the same height as they sold in short stories to magazines anthologies in i came to the attention of david hartwell tour books so i was going to a science fiction convention an m lawrence evans turns me in the green room it says jhansi right in beating from virginia i of course when why so i do have a closure all kinds of oh i actually do that but i should have a he said they look for you because you're the main street he seem a short story about about a broken from earth and so at the same time i'm just trying to get an agent in in agent in for a man who's a little reluctant so i had i not have had agent nor had a publisher but by the time i talk david heart will and then phone bomb agent who is there the guy wondering my agent who's there at the same convention that said i just talked to the editor tour boat and instead my manuscript you know i wasn't ready so if you're if you're a beginning right i'll go ahead and write two or three minutes now all sides manuscripts if you wanna have something ready to shut her publisher i should say that was back in the days when people when three publishers and they just do everything with internet when the market these days is very different than it was even twenty years ago as fisher theatre on any case so that was a a the golden age wednesday a what the book the bond you part of the the one i spoke to mr oh yes i read those and a yeah i i was very impressed when i first got here you're writing so i'm really happy to have you on here and i i think a lot of what i reacted to us in fact what you talking about with see great books courses that there is this deep knowledge of western civilization western history of the books that you know the the writings that have informed are civilization i think that's what i reacted to that i also looked at it said i can't write that that's that's why i have other things i could write but that particular fingers on something i could have written like you need a check for having someone say that i'm a better writer then you in the mail and you'll getting pay don't don't tell your listeners this is all set up now i wanna talk about the the new one which lost in the lost continent in the reasonable talk about it is because this podcast is all about the creative process so young this is an example will talk about how you're creative process works and i guess that brings be be first in unfortunately highly cliched question where do you get cheer ideas well it is action action have an answer for that an answer harlan ellison gives which is schenectady yeah exactly that's just my answer is the every science fiction writer i know fantasy ride ride in either had the notebook or a nowadays the phone but they keep notes in the difference between a writer in a non writer is only this monitors have just much ideas about stars services writers do they just don't right on down they don't remember them later i read all my ideas so we answer the question is i get all my ideas from stealing them i look at writers were better than me and i steal their ideas now in order to not be caught by the cops what i do is i'm not the cop skews me that'd be called by the readers what i do is i steal to ideas at once in intermingle them after falling serial numbers off and i also think about the saying a i think what is really happened not not if it was convenient first story well what would be a or the ramifications be you know a so that's why if you remember golden age that story or just prefer that story was at a convention in a girl and they all stood up and ask the question and she said the people were much happier in the old days and they are now and i asked her why or did you hear that she said well read it food you're eating a little timmy like people living in the modern day you're you're a chance you don't go russian you father was you don't you you have more liberty do just about anything you could imagine including things or ancestors couldn't even imagine if the fate egypt headache he could not get aspirin mhm because there was no such thing in those days he couldn't go get ice cream cone i could get my cargo gonna come right now you know i'd anytime of the day night so so pittsburgh now that doesn't necessarily quick happiness there's some there's some problems are caused by great well so so in in so the idea of the golden age was let's take every function trend i could think of and take it to the ultimate extreme and put a novel in as far on the future of i can't imagine that still have what's recognizable some something like a human being as a main character in let's just see what the problems would be even in utopia or as close utopias human beings can get to fight ended up writing eight sort of non utopia that at ideas on regional me that it just comes from thomas more at saint thomas more a but that's not my idea lost and the less confident now most people here's how you let me let me take no action before we do that before we do that given brand synopsis of lost in the lost in the last minute hack and it'd be briefed up the main character is colonel preston lost a big game hunter who after returning home from the china wars doesn't fit into bonsai anymore he's too rough and ready to manley he likes his guns too much and an almost everything he likes to now either illegal or unconscionable so he a and he's the welcome so he turns his great energy to hunting down in tracking down reports of ufo's which he slowly begins to believe is a real thing man he interviewed is a family of people whose other daughter was kidnapped by you'll vote but actually just personally angry at sea at the you hope people you've never met the receding then so he has ace up because he runs in a an international a a aerospace engineering corporation special space going on bill in aerospace by a or bottles and surface point a you know a a afterburners and ramjet and so on and so forth that does that that radar is an he simply a to look around and it's all for the story of a story opens with him chasing a you have a through a tornado and a thunderstorm over the room in the triangle into a vortex that opens up on alternate about grow warhol if he he chases the ship through a wormhole finds himself flying above hey volcano lit hellish landscape under a giant red song in rams into eight eight a tackle manhattan did just playing in a boiling lake 'em i work out for him at that point i don't know that that's the first that's the first paragraph were so that's the risk is the wreck is about four pages and that's correct that's correct a beautiful people get him as it turns out you do not come space spoilers don't come straight from in the future but very far in the future or not talking year we're four thousand there's something anybody inky dickey like that there's two hundred fifty million years from now when all the confidence have recall tied in together to form the one super confident of pongy altima lost the last confidence ever of the title in as it turns out to be a man fine has not only been superseded by nine or ten additional burdens and variance of mankind each one artificially by beat by race that came before them a all life was at one point wiped out time travelers so to restock the biosphere after the service became habitable again with light starting with the most primitive what forums they take from the heart pass working their way up to the modern my wife warms up it's not so they also brought along methadone dinosaurs and all sorts of things from the traffic and the jurassic period in earlier a an so so not only are there a first first men homo sapiens arguments but there's also the race with the second man we're going to create in a a four fourteen thousand years from now andy the race that rose after them the third man untold and so forth all the way up through a over there nine a b immortals of they for rick when they're resurrected from the dead takeover handily but because they're trying to have discovered something thing a deeper in life than their own mortality can provide that hey ray mysterious the spiritual reality they can't find themselves a big die off even though they allegedly can't die trying to to a save the first man or race from extinction burma second extinction i've been saying since we as opposed to oil down in order to prevent any paradox baton trapped inside the only thing that people who their regular show para so when pressed in la suzy only guys not any record's sherpas up in the far for future he starts running into people from advantis were swept off on before they hide titled bit a memorial from a a a a fucking to do the tapper bain in the lawsuit is older bankers in including people who died in disasters in are in arm in arm future is well he is a aided and abetted by eight sabre too little monkey named a smiley not his real name who turns out it'd be more within the more the b r a n a n i tried to i tried to to to mimic the a c techniques of address boroughs when i was writing an i i say it's it's like i said it's very difficult to a coffee this whole pop writers because they had a craft then that's that's been lost so why would you at least at least i could not could not reincarnated i dunno maybe it has been lost but i i couldn't do very well i could not live so walk with the specific a seed for this particular story see this story was once upon a time hey i was reading a series of articles for i am a magazine andy editor was the opening a new magazine and he fought habit hey paul a store a false story would be a good would be itself not many people were doing things like like these days but science fiction these days is do dreary politicals hurt us sort of you know stories about the i dunno garbage an so off the top of my head i thought of three ideas from very for various stories eight space approach on rather good at called through preliminary this one my my planetary romance which is a lost continent and another one called the new glenn pirates have written an lee in in every case storytelling is is monumental making up stories it's very similar to that the cs lewis describes in his writing a i images in my mind striking a deal a visual images to interconnect them some some plot logic just show where they're going to give some sort of justification that so when i thought pulp magazines my first thought was a a guy in a space plane running into a dinosaur a big game hunter again hunter hunting the dinosaurs in a in an iro win his race spending time with also prey animal aboard speeches and hunted to extinction you were meant congress the dodo being being hunted down a in a i once read planter romance but we have discovered the mars is not habitable and venus's they burn in hell hole where else could i go about earth in the far future because i've seen maps of ten jia of the one super confident that that emerges wants all a the lesser confidence collide with each other in the far future and that was so striking to me as a possible spot fray a you know to put a sign in romance instead but i put it there so what basically i made it up by the guy said can you write a story and i said inner applesauce are innocent shrike and what is you're a planning process look right cringe do some upside so lots to do you see that man how's it work for you that is an excellent question it depends on the book the book i wrote just before the one what's called super luminary enables also written a according the same discipline which was i wrote a chapter a week for a week a an is that story i outlined everything beforehand to excruciating detail no you outlined that local jail you run the risk of draining meaning your character's some other by vasily in bringing you're part of some of its snapping originality some flexibility original if you understand what i'm saying if you plan to thoroughly not everyone calls in that respect this i think it's the temptation but you could fall into as a but if you rely too much on exploratory method i myself don't like the pants metaphor it's not real it's going on a better bet for would be a say you're and explorer attracted crossed they missed bill valley to reach a mountain peak but you could see on the far side and if you could pick up the landmarks forty one to get even if you can see big sack pappy will take the get there you know where you're going to people who write a an exploratory fad rather not wanting fashion basically their first raptors there outline what that what that will not open to me using this method see an i have to confess i got into more trouble with loss of continents and just about any of the project i've ever tried to right because i had had a straight jacket myself into a situation where i couldn't go back and change you really chapter is won't publish when we see all my boss and i've been doing free free of charge a but if you wanna read the whole thing you know got it together in a in a bounce up you're gonna spend a an unlike unlike super luminary which i had all cleaned up the gecko this is only three rather vaguely planned out at several things happened the wife surprised me in a some things took longer than i thought the example in my original notes being tire fadel sequence that takes twenty chapters in the fifth book god's fangio jia was just a note battle he battled being a if you're in exports were ready you have to also be flexible enough to a look back at things that that you did not original intend to be plot twists or traps for red herrings in retroactively make them into red herrings or plot twist or plot traps so that you're readers will will speak you had that planned out in mind from let's get yeah yeah they skate smile secret i if you've got any of the monkey i had that from the very beginning i was just gonna say that i've been on a panel of true about writing series and my longest series is five young adult books and they're only sixty thousand words each that's only a little longer than this boston the scott and they make a it's it's basically if it is a book it would be five short novels but actually rather long it's more the hearing turned out to be written on earth five episodes which is which is almost a you know two years one of the challenges of writing series fiction and it sounds like it's exactly what you've done to self publishing the magical along is there's always that something you make up in the moment because it seems like a good idea which then later you have to justify that comes back to bite you in some way because you want to do something that you've now precluded yourself from doing because you got it out in some earlier a after her book that that it happened when i had my main character jump off a cliff yeah he did he did not die that time i'm just telling you it's a little nervous about dog jumps off the cliff he just float away the highest mountain in the world being yanked thereby grabbed a good magic rings wearing his finger of course as one does well no he he knew he knew that's one of the other a super beginnings on on the planet was meddling with his destiny yesterday and he was doing it secretively and he was gonna double dog dare the guy to either let him die or just playing russian roulette with with with an unknown party primed to to see whether or not the guy would reveal himself in the end he does now disaster falls because of that because he actually gives away a secret base the secret location of the of the last remaining super being on the planet who think it's attacked by gigantic aerial fluidly a we get people eight man they're called the watchers that's what i think i gotta tell you that question here's here's the here's the answer the question here's who wants told by ideas from the story one was just madame pan ju just always a great city story but the other is a book called blasted men by love stapleton which is a brilliant piece of fiction work from the nineteen twenties from england from back before they call science fiction by that pain battle where rhode island up higher history that he then you know lesson comment you know exactly what i'm stealing from my third bender his third man i just read the shorter my my a my mentor his fifteen minutes or less and devil worshippers and so on my window men are his venues eons you you i even hide the order in which i put them into understanding eight man in his book he describes his eight man is being very pedestrian and i made the minute to integrate into a roswell type alien looking creep reuters who replaced by climbing so what took it but i didn't even i didn't even change what i call them i think it all a fourteen minute i thought he was a he was too extravagant so what is your actual writing process looks like you sit in right first of all the block you do the office to go to a coffee shop to right by hand how do you right oh yeah i'm right on a dark on the computer because nowadays with whiskey a word processors there so ridiculously convenient if you wanna change character's name globally or look up a passage that you've forgotten and so and so i usually write a a in separate chapters fucking keep track of the chapter in life because of course you'll get a readout at the bottom of you're you're were windows that day i should say i made technical writer so i spend my life format in documents to make look pretty so i could format nightmarish groups and make them look really good and i know little tricks to make them anything so anyway a are you having outline in my outlines are usually expensive waffles guns and exception a a an unusually i have my notes for example for tempt to a trillion trillion was seventy pages have been including eight twenty page timeline a future history okay some of the material showed up an independent through that book but i i i take extensive that's what i'm making up a story and i usually in ten not patel the reader all background that made up because i just wanna i just wanna be enough to create an illusion of personal to write a chapter time in a uniform line then i cut and paste material into a master document which is labeled master documents but i update initially and i emailed to myself some spare carpets floating around the case one at one of my computer's blows up right either right right by quota i either do a spring number of hours a week you know or i do a certain number of pages certain words one of these other and then what this year rewriting revision process look like now this one was i under grand prix you taking reader i guess you winter i don't i don't rewrite i'm a i'm a genius i just heard everything done on time one one draw left it's it's brilliant any other time every right isn't tells me rewrite so do editors toyota rewrite it a box that is the best i've ever encountered in he has made a wise suggestions on several occasions a but never never a major rewrite never never like sank after this character or switch this lottery all my very first book golden age for example a david hartwell made a suggestion that a certain speech i had as they counseling around seeing inch after two he said break that up he said it's just to see big wreck up and put it in a sort of all this and that was fine a only other time deal is a major rewrite of rapid was their fault not mine david hartwell call me when the second book of my fantasy story a working the capital's being published and he said hey we just found out that we can't make this into books it's got three books but the third book requires another i forget what the word cat was twentyfive thousand words if somebody were to get in logan basically another four chapters and five chapters of material and i said bingo i have the material here the rent the sequel i could just take some of that and profit right in the middle it will be seamless because already having the scenes are all planned out in the nfl you did but it when when you say you don't rewrite beyond the first draft has you are writing a sentence will you sometimes backup in reword that that so yeah yeah so that's a form of a rolling rewrite i mean i'm not i'm not that much of anything 'em or lazy it's either genius they're lazy i'm not sure which me because i because i simply steel smarter authors and may they may be lazy and he is you know i remember eating a and i mentioned this before on the podcast a property opus one hundred dicey dick as amongst hundred the book also kind of autobiographical and i think that may have been where he talked about when he wrote he would you know he he just typed and that's a typewriter right he would type the page and set it aside never rewrote never you know just came out right that's even harder and a typewriter were yeah i did not do that i i make lots and lots of spelling errors in fact there's the guy when i when i was doing lost lost gone there is a guy who would deliberately goes through my my terrible bellinger's and just seventy pages gretchen the retirement of trick because you know i i gotta take it back let me tell you one disadvantage of my method when i was writing down to a trillion my first draft got to be a about e a buck fifty thousand words in real estate taking a wrong turn it at chapter two while had the takeout twentyfive that were writing and maybe by a factor of a magnitude it'd be terrible numbers i i had a throwaway about twelve chatsworth material which i hope to eventually revisit as another both buddy with just because i did not out when that one because i did not have planned out let me let me see i'm not actually let me tell you what goes on some writers right and do their first wrapped in their head in some do it on the paper and if you do it in your head you don't to rewrite it when it gets when it comes to a second draft you're you're basically right and you're stuck in traffic when you when you when you stand on paper so how fast arms around i can i can crank out a two and three thousand words eight a a writing a writing session for outright session so on a on a on a good week when i get or five riding days that's that's basically a i mean i wrote a trilogy in nine months i wrote i wrote the golden age nine months and that with a three book you know about crusher size manuscript quickly useful skill we have a writer for right now let me tell you how i wasn't that school newspaper man yeah that's gonna say and i would write and i would write an article waiting for my for my paper yeah i tell people that to m i work for weekly newspaper i became news editor of it at the ripe old age of twenty four hours newspaper editor end a you know we wrote because weekly and it was a community news a small well six six thousand ten thousand they said ten thousand but it only recently really became ten thousand people in in way beyond just catching and we you know i wrote everything i wrote features i wrote a column i wrote i drew the editorial cartoon a media that i know i honest to goodness how awesome cartoonist also we have so much in common besides the space insisting side so you know it's it's you there there are no oh i can't right right now when you're writing produce paper because the newspaper that come out and they'd have to have stuff in it and you know the the praying there are some there's jobs in life where you could be a little like a newspaper is not one of them if you did not make the deadline then you were dead the word blonde comes in the days is back in the civil war when they couldn't afford to put walls around around where the prisoners were being kept so station amanda garra with a gun and they would draw a line on the ground you step on this line we shoot you your dead we've done a deadline oh i haven't heard that before well but you work in a newspaper for so you know what it's like the staff to in the morning autumn day oh get you're gonna get you're you're galleys the printer sun saturday morning by by by sunday deadline i had the city council which met on tuesday nights and the paper came out on wednesday morning so i would go back office in right forty or fifty inches of copy and a and the my most vivid memory of that is the night when i turned off the computer without saving and had the rewrite it off prescribe i only did that once a month now i can tell you a real newspaper guy there because you you're you give your a tax in terms of inch is doing the newspaper yeah i don't do that out there and i know i know computerized news anymore that was the one thing that the modern age really change initiative change the entire publishing industry yeah yeah i still don't used to well i'm going to as we were getting were forty five minutes almost fifty minutes in a so it's time to get to be i'm sure you'll have no trouble with this big philosophical questions which i love because of an it's well it's just one really why do you write and why do you think any of us right especially why do we write this kind of stuff well that's that's actually three questions why do i write was anyone right and what what we were kind of stuff three question about so a the reason why the human race is created because we were created by the creator we've created in his image in his image of a greater so when man when god gave man be gifted speech the devil immediately told band had a lie in god gave i mean the gift of telling stories stupid used even the devils gift and why for good and for the good old man caught the reason why we tell stories because their crews you can't capture by writing things down the literally the newspaper doesn't tell you anything anything except for the news of the day and plenty about eternity doesn't say but the truth doesn't tell you about they they they went to love any young girls odds doesn't tell you about lisa a little harsh glare of the sun on the mountains of moon in there and they airless a boy it doesn't tell you what life is all about it doesn't tell you what it's like a baby's father for the first time or the wife of baby's bottom back when they're so young they're they're who does not spinning there is the age at which you have never what debated bottom then you have you have you have the story to find out about that kind of thing if you've never if you've never a looked off the bows shipping seen an iceberg coming toward you which when see it is louis as coble extend the cold then you only know these things is to have someone tell you when the story is still living on a person's life otherwise were all trafficking herself so that's why we're giving this godlike gift because without it we would go matt it's a way it's the late to channel madness into useful a product that makes the angels we put joy it's also useful for suggesting women a an it's useful for of glorifying the great here's the past need to be glorified that's what that's what that's what are poetry's for the reason why i do it is because a science fiction a as always struck me as being having everything every other genre has it has got everything mainstream literature has a but it has less restrictions on the imagination because you couldn't go anywhere and do anything you're setting couldn't be anything you could imagine what i like the discipline of science fiction ever fancy i don't i also write transgender wrong but i do like the discipline of trying to stick to what is a science feasible they only guy who writes hard sf nuts and bolts space opera like i did with count to a trillion all the fantastical things only astronomical wonder is the upper train that book are real i i didn't make those up i did not make up the star is passing through are armed with a gallup poll yet at ninety percent of the speed of light this the real stars it's actually doing that i did not make up you drop a gal who's gonna ran the milky way galaxy three billion years from now that's real that's gonna happen yeah and so on and so forth so the reason i write functions it's like science fiction the reason why i like it because from young age it is only a field large enough for cruelly unbridled imagination what's really ambitious imagination the thing i think he looked in the golden age will suggest that ambition of imagination a third question was a not forgotten very what did we right mind is anyone right that is anyone right science fiction fantasy but i mean you kind of answered that pretty well that's that's part of the questions i think most people have the same reason that i do yeah if you're gonna explore man kong and you're stuck with modern 'em a a moderate mainstream limitations that i should say those limitations did not used to exist a win homer passy odd andy virgil in milton road stories they put as many fantastic elements of they needed to satisfy their story no one said the homer the boston just because you know going to the dante fact dante worldview was a sponsor got the accurate as he as he could make any was practically science fiction writer a piece of an angel and devil and all sorts of all sorts of monsters but when but after after the world mad sometime around the turn of the last century someone socialist got the bright idea that that art and literature should only be about real people living in the real world in in a circumstance that were fairly close to morning everyday life which is not the way anyone has ever told a fairy tale the world the gun okay so be true mainstream literature how'd you get one of the great had a high end it reemerged from underground most unexpected place possible the petty dreadful in the pulp magazines where the real political how mary ethical storytelling glories were wrapped up in disguised as we said venture stories is well were actually talking about the dp show the world because if you're running a science fiction story if you're already a major storm who say what is man what is men are mindful of him as a man that what the man then what's his place in the universe and you're writing a mainstream story the only thing you could write about is his oh i don't know of any a a jew living in the turn of the century a a dublin whose wife is cheating on her website or a guy who knows a friend who committed suicide but who earnings by students or then you could have a robot as a main character who could look at your main character that you're man that say you and i are not like this is the contrast between what you are as a man of what i am a something that doesn't grow old and doesn't doesn't suffer from disease or he could run into an elf orange angel or a upped the ante or vulcan and they say well you are as a man is different i am because there's gonna have no emotional i don't understand what it is you gotta life and while you do the things you do so so from a science fiction point of view you could explore a deeper question any used and have onstage characters were not that not that way a not not not limited to the here and now whereas mainstream fiction that's artificially in the modern generation that's arthur should limit yourself to that you're now in a way i think is is mentally unhealthy now this podcast is called world shapers and i'm curious if you well how do you hope that you're writing shapes the world if you put it shapes the world in some fashion a i'm not that ambitious i think of myself as a clown in my job is to a pen the book of gold for some writer some reader well i'm never gonna meet and he's gonna pick up my book on some rainy day maybe after an ed he's gonna be glum in the president's gonna redo that book i don't open up the him something that is really special for him and maybe not even anyone else and it will be it will be for him the book opens is about nations of the world in laugh you'll cry hill a stick shift in headquarters goodbye order losing promoting the future a an i mean arena you said because in a reasonable rate so that guy who i don't know is because if i try to read the crowd the largest number of people i don't think i'm doing a good job i don't think i'm listening to me i don't think i'm actually writing but heaven wants me to write a in if i recognize the my job is to entertain rather to instruct the arrogance of so many modern writers who think they're going to lecture me who quite frankly has a better education people and they're gonna tell me about right from wrong and they're gonna tell me about the nature morality in the nature of reality so that so that whatever the thing is the whatever the fashionable latest frivolous shallow ideas that is infuriating them they they think they're going to be my teacher at my master and i'm gonna be there disciple any writer who thinks that i think is stepping off a cliff i think they stopped doing art they're just doing a lecturing they're preaching and then now you're preaching every religion the preaching the road make believe really fucking indefinite stepping away from they don't even have a ring to off the opposite the highest amount 'cause i double dog daring a guy to see the university place they have a an so i i think the writers who have a mission in life a i think they're making a mistake and i don't wanna be a guy like that i wanna be an entertainer i wanna attain a my job is to roger unicycle refined my face as you make people laugh land on that northward crusted interior so a lost in the last continent is on your blog but so what steve print future for its three i have a i have a deal with c a m a a a friend of mine who is trying to do a direct to a you know a director readership skip through the internet kind of thing a a an that it's called the super suppress yes so super is gonna is gonna come out with is gonna come up with this a within witness here i don't know the exact date because something just stopping there should be i mean the whole the whole script has done a we might wait until after the last issue appears on my blog which would be in in all the story in one of their anthology so i'm familiar with to pursue okay andy a bloody working on now right now i'm working on a book called stark west and that one i wish i i i tell you the story of that which is even better they were sort of lost most dominant lost lost cause some said right historic or me this one i made out of anger i wouldn't go see a movie whose name i will not mention which was a space opera movie and one was a mobile loved franchise but i liked enjoyed since childhood end it was such a bad job but it felt so sorry for the porn for actor reprising his role is one of the most space space heroes of american literature a and they gave him garbage just say he died for no reason and faded away like it goes it was terrible and i said i could do better so the the boys nine horrible wilbur in just right were driving home from an hour i said boys if you were writing that movie how would you rewrite how would you ever done differently they came up with an idea from plot for a sequel to hey a space trilogy will go unnamed but i'm stealing my ideas from a a really i thought made a lot more sense than anything we've seen lee a hollywood put out and so as a joke i wrote up eight eight a movie review of this make believe movie which should have been the sequel that hollywood ruin the disney room ad i got such a powerful and positive reaction my fans firm that i said to myself all wrapped up in the novel changed names and change around the background i make up my own background but keep keep the flavor try keep they they they a be a saturday matinee cereals labor of like spice masher flash gordon buck rogers an read it up that way so it's called stark west a and it concerns it's after the fall of evil galactic empire but it's not be apart you're taking up because this is in a different galaxy a good exact like rome so it's basically impart you know andy a a question is a windy a space policy starts to get on the on the rise a certain things from ancient past begin rehab peering will stop long dead a coop could fight the ghost of the past but are coming back to the living both figuratively and literally and that's a that's a start questions about oh that sounds like a lot of fun it is a great deal of fun my main character right now is has snuck aboard eight space pirate ship is about to be caught and have the living daylights having a car beaten out of him but he does wear a mask but he found in his brother is belongs after his brother was killed and restrict their circumstances and it's a match made by alien species of technology doesn't recognize and when he said on it makes you stronger and faster than normal in so the pirates when they see him think he's come back from the dead it's i think he's a guy who can't die which is not quite true but there are things that can't die there in the background book so that's what's going on with that one end where can the fans find you online asi fly right dot com is my blog i also sell books through tour book so so books to catch daily a house that's run by box that apple's looks through superstar press if you just type in unsee right you gave me or i read books on how to train your cat you mentioned penny dreadful earlier there's a there is a there's been a couple of edward rela to written in the past and one of them real dime novels in the nineteenth century with names like oh kept the flat both boy did and there's even there's even fantasy one called a a at something like apt to rex the the dwarf mystical dwarf or something like that it's very short and i'm speaking of filing off most stealing idea i wanna rewrite that is a modern book some point i know stores are short a yeah yeah yeah i actually had a character named pending critical in my a a super luminary but anyway here's the daughter professor dreadful pull up well so kind of at the end of the time here so thanks so much for being on the website chris john i hope you enjoyed it i did i did i did indeed i did indeed i should say lost lock on the part of the world shipping like the best withdrawing up the huge outline of two hundred million years of history that never show up in fact just in my notes of all the things will happen oh i got i gotta say one other saying okay my timeline is not only taking from laughter personnel they were short story hp lovecraft called shadow todd all be a fence character in shutout time discovers are going to happen in the future i put it in my industry i just bought a collection of hp lovecraft haven't read it for years so i'll be really mad stories soon i'm sure if you're worried that thrill recognize at least some of the people who are involved and they and they buy detoro games in the fight scenes in in the section of new york has a name out i'll watch for it so thanks again for being on the world shapers excellent thank you for having me this great thought it was great fun for me to and i wanna thank john again for being on the world shapers i hope that you will come back many times in the future to hear some of these other great authors said i will be interviewing the ones that i know are coming include the christopher rookie oh charles ugandan a fun to be cameron hurley and shelly edina those twins were all eyes are already recordings or will be required it soon 'em again if you are interested in entering my draw for an rc of mastered the world the next book in my world shapers a book series a send me an email at he well that's w i l l e t g at g mail dot com with master of the world in the subject and before august first twenty nineteen and i will enter you into a draw for that a other other ways you can get hold of me or find me on my and include of course the world shapers own website at the world shapers dot com and you can also find the world shapers on facebook if you look for the world shapers podcast you can find me at edward willett dot com to tease on well it you can also order autograph books from me at edward world at shop dot com you could check out my own little publishing company at shadow pop press dot com you can find me online at the world shapers i mean on twitter at the world shapers a hand at eat well let's again to tease an m yeah you could find me on facebook as well at edward doc wallet that's it for this episode of the world shapers i hope you've enjoyed it and i hope we'll be back many more times in the future to the such a more chat swith science fiction and fantasy authors about their creative process and how they create she world which we have enjoyed somebody adventures years
139: Lemon's Cousin and the Alien Frog Vendetta
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christine's now realizing the struggles i've had to go through it was mine and then you suddenly got end we're like what's my microphone and so i took it back to make you feel better her anyway this is fun anyway all right technical difficulties aside welcome we we have pleased the youths they have informed us that things things are good that they liked what we gave them so far for efforts some of them are very happy that we called them youths because they were in their thirties and said they prefer you to i use tube i actually was going to say that yeah as i'm gonna say that next episode and then i was like it's so terrible that i'm coming up with a bad pun in advance so i'm glad you did it on a riff like naturally yeah well that's what i'm here for also i want to give a shout to the person who made these the shirt for me it's apparently one of a set well here's will happen we knew we were setting up a green screen today which by the way here's our green screen welcome and both of us were green is pretty standard listen we're starting from the bottom still here we're still stuck at the bottom of we i was like i'm sure sure i one of your shirt somewhere and i have a collection of stuff when i travel i bring a suitcase for all our leg gifts and stuff and so they end up in a big bat an a big extra case suitcase of mine and so found our most recent trip yes so i have one that says either write that down mine's the only one and thai that's nice that was trying to steal it but i brought it out for 'em so we'll see hopefully that we are not part of the green screen hopefully not but who can say this is really is just the beginning when we started the podcast and did not know what we were doing and after a couple episodes it started to become something really good so be patient this is round two of us on camera the one day it's going to look really bitch and just not yet so far so good we're really faking it with the screen screen it looks cool to me it took us an hour and a half decided we were gonna nail it to the wall and then we came up with a better idea to actually follow the instructions that came with christina's a habit of nailing things to walls emp thinks that i do but really it's always m.'s idea to do that no it's not listen they're right here there's a curtain that say i mailed it to the wall i did did she nails the rod to the wall she hangs the curtain on the correct i hang listen you guys are gonna love this tip use it is a good tip someone told me once you put instead of command hook or whatever you just put like a really thick nail and then you can rest the curtain rod on top of the nail and that way you don't have to screw in bunch of screws screws mess up the wall it's just a one little now so it works i'm like i'm shitting on you but you're right at the same time it works but i just assumed since you're so willing and open minded to do it with other things went into the bill every piece of furniture in this room so you can leave me alone until you want to come here and build killed all my furniture then we can speak from best okay welcome to and that's why i drink a paranormal and true crime podcast do you have any updates me my only update was pleased the youth i am pleased that they are pleased all right oh so i wanted to mention we had an awesome time at our last show of the year yes salt lake lake we did a double show a double header which was why allow alarm not used to that no we did it once in houston do we do it in dallas two or those i only one time ever before this and both times were a lot but we commend the people who came to the second show and stuck it out with us until like midnight oh my god it was a wild they had a blast we have fun but it was definitely a long night said everybody who came to both or either one or two the late show thank you we had really good time and you guys brought so many presents and we were not expecting it i mean i was because i brought an empty suitcase i wasn't expecting that many gifts everyone was very generous komo so nice speaking of gifts one specific person that sticks out in my mind brought a gift from the grocery store they work at aw basically this person said i got a grocery store and we are we're doing inventory we were cleaning out our back stock and is hi this is this is no oh by the way i know that this noah then said i found a petrified avocado to go with women and then handed it to us and now we have two dried up mummified foods that are manager can be equally disappointed about that i'm friends with and very close to so now instead of just lemon we've got lemon avocado now a suitcase full of souvenirs and a petrified avocado and i've got two reasons to hate christine only too well lucky you in the grocery department thank you know for my petrified avocado lemon really needed a new cousin so i can't stand us anyway we are done for our touring for two thousand nineteen and it feels good because we're tired and we're ready to revamp our tour for like a new fresh new start and we have said this before but we wanna keep hyping it up that our next door is gonna be a very different format so excited we can't tell you anything anything but it's going to be different but look we're doing we're building green screens james so i'll send you the z. better come out to the next show as long as you're eighteen older youth some song song like you don't drink legally youth yeah we're trying to whole bunch of new stuff we've had a lot of ideas for a long time and so it seems like it's all all coming it's all happening at once but we've had these thoughts for awhile and we just finally have the time now that we're not touring to kind of do as much as we can and we want to get as much done as we can before we're touring and again so it seems like it's all coming out of nowhere but these have been things we've been working on behind the scenes for awhile yes updated patriot on and all this is like really league new projects we've been thrown around ideas for a long time but finally they are actually happening yes it's very exciting stuff and we will say about the tour again one of our favorite things about next tour that we are going to be releasing all the dates one time oh yeah so stress we said it before but i just want to keep reiterating it because someone's finding out for the first time said no use but most of our shows are all ages so upset the youths i guess i'm on your side because i'm cool and fun and hip i like to confuse infused people yup i know the comedy club scene sorry guys envious to the sorry MD to the comedy scene wouldn't know about it so i'm used to being a professional comedian yeah i shall we do this thing yeah i'm looking at my notes from remembering how slick damn actually guys nothing makes me feel more adult than having my own business card and recently i have made my own not very recently at this point it's actually been a couple months but i've been shoving them at 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last show and he it was like it is not your lascaux yeah like no no of of this towards like you gave me a heart attack i was like no no no yeah i was like what do you think i would do with our time like we literally have nothing else to do we just got decided to give up on the show and but also get a green screen we just want to talk at you always that's literally all we care about doing since we i like talking at you listen up now this story is a UFO story okay and it is supposedly like the most host popular UFO story in all of europe wow thank you for kerry you heard it here first folks sending it is i think what country one one this is the i was going to try and make a funny joke wasn't gonna be funny council areas those italy italy's the answer i was gonna say like the home of pizza or something stupid okay that was funny i can't stand you so anyway here is is the story of the abduction of peer fortunato's and fronta fuck with question mark like we're all going to all somewhat uh-huh yeah maybe stanford is listening to this and italian so this is the home of pizza home of pizzas where he's from okay so i just call in for the entire story i'm not gonna call him the the full name just as got it i also called him z. pretty often zoe is that cute that accidentally slips up i apologize i like all right so i'm just going straight into his abduction there's let's do it he apparently has it's been either abducted or had encounters with the supernatural up to eleven times in a matter of three years so i'm just going to i'm not going to go through all of them but i'm gonna go through the main ones so eleven times so this is his first encounter which was in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight in december on december sixth sanford i is is a twenty six year old security guard and he's working in a village near genoa how are you already you you've never google these thing now no genoa yes i just wanted to keep calling at genova and i knew that was wrong i thought maybe that's where you're going or geneva but then i realized not in switzerland right we're still in italy and yeah we're still in italy okay you're correct but i just keep seeing genova in my head princess of zen unfetter prince okay so god the dream the twenty six year old prince has also security or and he's working in a village near genoa and dan genoa gene away might be genoa sorry am i gonna actually like a hard gene snot so meanwhile he's working in the village it's cold and snowy let's remember that he is driving by a a country house that no one's currently living at an empty country house and in his car stops dead everything his engine the radio his car's just kaput so when he gets out he also looks into the house yes that's currently mapping lived in and he sees four lights in the house willing who's up just like the abandoned healing security guards you just driving by oh oh okay surveilling the area neighborhood yeah okay of genetic he's not the prince canova he's actually cured guard a little busy joe oh my god no stowe's well yeah i guess he would be securities dating julie andrews infra what's going on here damn big day for this this is like the sci-fi version of princess diary we had a minute wait a minute wait a minute trademark yet don't steal that from me so the syfy diaries of gino city that's what ends dad called scifi channel in case if you're not aware yeah loving the inner workings of 'em's father's mccall's often tell me he's watching mississippi network and i'd never we do so he saw four lights in this house that nobody should be in he got to investigate because he thought maybe there were burglars and as a security guard novia he was really excited to kick some ass sure got out of his car is sneaking behind the house to try to catch them off guard but he feels something grabbed him from behind he turns around and he sees quote an enormous green ugly frightful creature no less than ten feet tall oh okay i lost my spot i thought you were going to make concerns it it looked like me i was waiting for that well i did think that when i got to ugly frightful creature but we did a lot less episode and seemed to have a great time with it so i love i'm christine and ugly frightful creature yeah so anyway he saw christine standing behind you fair apparently grabbed him which is not cool but that's true he didn't consent not a prince slash security guard we're not sure so runs off naturally because christina's behind him i would run you too well i shouldn't say anything in so then all of a sudden he notices above him a large flat triangular form with blinding lights that are bigger than the house itself itself oh hissing at him and he feels intense heat and that's coming in hot and intense heat from the ceiling magnetic raw yes insurers i that's what i meant heat from all corners gross no thank you i would run away too so he got to his car and this was at a little after midnight it's like twelve fifteen he radios the operator back at like security headquarters i don't know what this thing is called but i'm going to call it like star command or something sure so the operator answers names carlo he later act does testify then freida was not signing like himself he sent a really erotic and really panicked apparently he kept hearings on fred on the radio my god are they ugly which is exactly what i say about christine that's pretty mean yeah no that's what he's focusing on ugly lead you imagine if you're being attacked by a swarm of aliens and all you can think about is how looks i mean that's not a way to win them over either like yeah oh please don't attack me you hideous beast i can't even look at you vomit i mean damage if you just look to them went warf lily not yikes your life must be tough so operator asked apparently carlos homey because he immediately just assume these things raelians didn't even question it he went literally as you okay if i were to call you and be like oh my god are they ugly you'd be like it's an alien the aliens yes to the operator said are are they human and are they salting you and human yeah he just jumped on board he was like whatever's going on it's so ugly based on your description it could could not be human oh my and then francis says back into the radio no they aren't men they aren't men and then the communication totally shut off the radio willow hello carlos like this guy's getting possessed by aliens or something so i'm gonna call security guards carl listen he's the main main guy he's really early on he jumped on board way quicker than most people in these stories at a time of crisis i appreciate how quick to being open to the situation he was he didn't fight fight anyone on a he was like if you're saying they're not human than they're not yeah so he called out security guards you're looking for him they found at the house the same house in our later at one fifteen in the morning he was lying on the ground and when he saw the guards he was freaking out his eyes bulged he tried to pull a gun on them he did not recognize mm-hmm and these guards that he's known for years right so he is just crazed and not really focused he seems to not recognize them he seems to not hear them when they say put your gun down palm the guards are able to disarm him and they later noticed that his clothes although it is raining really cold outside he feels super warm like he has his clothes clues his dry he's hot while you're coming in with all that heat from all over the place when i'm saying land i have an effect on people yeah so here i go saying something stupid potentially potentially potentially though most likely talion military police are apparently called carabiners listen i don't know this i'm thinking of like the clip i would either i'm gonna call them the italian military police so i think this is the sound i mean how would you pronounce that where caribbean caribbean ears i it looks like carabineers but i don't know how the hell what that is that doesn't look italian no more we're gonna call them the italian military police judges to say case also clarified that for ninety nine percent of the people yeah unless you're from italy in which case you're mad that definitely saying in which case you've already left when i said said should novia so sorry so the italian military police they investigated which was weird for them to do apparently i usually didn't warrant this but he was so freaked out that they were like okay we're going to investigate anyway they ended up looking where they found then freta and they found next to him twenty inch long and nine inch wide horseshoe-shaped imprints behind the house ooh they also at the same time we're able to find fifty two other people one town who said that they saw a bright glare coming from the neighborhood at the same time that's fred assad which has gone very validating fifty two witnesses confirming something was in the sky whoa whoa stories that are getting published in the local newspaper and naturally there's a lot of skepticism but there were no explanations for fred weird behavior savior the two big imprint in the grass that look like nothing we know of and the sighting fifty two other people that can confirm that sanford or something something sure the main local opinion though was at stanford it must be crazy and the military police are wasting their time but sanford is quoted saying i don't know what it is that i saw but i saw it and i'm not a liar so he okay so i'm glad he's like okay though for now yeah i forgot this is one of many but currently he he calms down and is relatively stable are you sorry i was trying to keep it cool but my microphone fell off again we really need new equipment listen we're overhauling this whole project but one time we should probably just fucking fell swoop this shit that's true we are doing a total overhaul of all all of our equipment i mean we got a green screen yearly we are trying out some new other stuff we knew cameras you can tell we broke all of our microphones so we really decided oh hey here's all the products they wanna do let's do all of them and then neglect that we just need basic audio equipment so that's kind of an christine thing we're like what's the most dramatic thing we can do that's the one ignore all the boring stuff the necessity so on the docket for next week as new audio equipment oh i just won't touch it anymore that is one of the main rules of the studio just don't touch it maybe it won't touch anything so yeah so the guards i've known him i'm for years and they witnessed him acting totally crazed they have been one of them specifically has been quoted saying i can state with certainty that he is a clear thinking man and with no strange fantasies in his head when we went to investigate the scene the next day he almost didn't want to come he was so scared only something exceptional could have frightened him so badly wow so he's really like not his meetings like this guy is usually so level headed right well carlo believed him right away like yeah i mean it was an everyone just follow carlos like moral compass fight trust carlo as much as i trust this guy the day that you're getting attacked by alien you're you're gonna really wish carlo on the way you're right i know i am i i'll have you on the phone and the same goddamn things i'll be calm carlo a carlo so so to help remember what the hell happened in florida was hypnotized so and this becomes irregular running theme so he energized by dr sure moreover moretti just so no his name my chair yeah we're allowed we're trying out the director's chairs that i made christine for like are like tense hence episode or something they're so cool visitor so loud and they make horrible xlt now we gotta get like oh on the docket WD forty i think they're just they just need to be oiled sure you oil them i don't know how to do that okay i'll bring oil next time all right anyway let's see reta says is in his hypnosis he was abducted by quote monsters ten feet tall with hairy green skin yellow triangular is and read feigns across the four for you they are ugly they apparently brought him to a hot bright place where they examined him which at this point he goes no further description description about that but then he says they come from a third galaxy and that quote they want to talk with us and they will soon return in larger numbers no firm impasse apparently they also spoke fun fact with a luminous device over their mouths to translate their words into italian so we can understand them that's fun i want one do those what i think is fun is that as this goes on the way that they speak to him always varies so this was a luminous device over their mouth the next time it's something else next time something else really so the next abduction yeah oh wow well it seems that they've got a lot of different ways to be able to communicate outside of telepathy interesting so that was the i encounter and his recollection of it after hypnosis but this is the second encounter okay only three nights later from his first abduction zen fronta is working again a and he is driving his car seems to be driving in his car a lot when these things happen he loses total control of the car and he later reported that the car was driving itself up uphill despite him breaking as hard as he could or trying to swerver scare the car that was just driving itself one of those malfunctioning google cars that like drive over for people yeah it was just like its own hot wheels so he radios it in in the car he's just sitting there in this like fast car and he's you know as you dare hope going up the hill that's bizarre okay and he also he could he radioed it and he was telling them what was going on he also said that he he couldn't see well because of the fog which i find interesting i didn't hear this anywhere else but i personally noticed in these stories that the fog always seems to happen right before an abduction action interesting so in just either like in general just in the ones that no justice in this case this story it sounds like the fog is almost a i feel like the cliche move of the of a UFO kind of shining a beam of light at you and picking you up it seems like fog in this case is their own beam of light little like precursor to like the second in the fog that's when you get abducted okay so he's reporting and he's also saying i can't see well because of the fog so i don't even know where this car is that could could drive me into a tree i dunno where i'm going all of a sudden while driving the car is going very fast the car just stops abruptly even like hits his head on the steering wheel it just halts out of nowhere and it probably drove itself for like a mile he ends up radioing and again saying the car stopped i saw a bright light now i'm getting out fair to this so he and he radioed in and then he was found at one in the morning in a field near that road again his clothes were really warm warm and dry despite the fact that when they found him he was outside and it was raining yeah and it was all that foggy misty yeah and he's he's hot to the touch he was was found crying and he was saying quote they say i must leave with them what about my children i don't want to oh my god disturbing yes this is framing i don't know about this so the pirates of the caribbean irs a military police johnny depp shows up it's the whole thing then like every character victor giant ups ever played all come together thank you i do not have time for that so they end up getting they hear about this report and look into it again and they found that they come to the site as it's happening and find the car's roof was apparently hot enough to have been in the sun all day that's how this car felt while again it was cold and rainy outside it was december and and it feels like this car has been out in the hot sun on the hottest day weird apparently they also the interior of the car was as quote hot as an oven okay and surrounding the car they found more footprints that were equally creepy in size like those co friends yeah no thank you i mean twenty inch that's like almost two feet tall yeah i was hoping that those are going to be like the landing pads for the fo i didn't know if they were like five never really get an explanation explanation they might be just like the imprint of the ship itself that landed but like ill either if those are their feet that's really creepy worse it's like clifford as an alien force feet so zinfandels gun they realized had also been fired five times but even during hypnosis frederick couldn't remember it away who he had shot at i'm just the bullets were discussing oh so then he got hypnotized again and he ended up remembering but this this time he was stripped down and forced to wear a painful helmet oh no that apparently the helmet was another communication device where when he put the helmet on he could understand understand their language but it was painful to wear so it sounds like they were kind of altering his brain and he could feel it happening yuck okay that hurts i don't like that he also remembers burs seeing one alien take his gun and fire the bullets into a panel that he assumes must have been a bulletproof panel or a indestructible panel and he assumes they were doing just to see what this weapon was if if it was a weapon if it could hurt them it was almost if they use in we're like oh my god this is basically like a rock slingshot technology i mean that's how i would describe how do you describe a gun to someone who doesn't who's like from earth earth those we had those two million years ago right exactly nice try so so that explains where the bullets went oh sure he oh this is is under hypnotism under hypnotized found out later what was going on but he when they found him originally he's like i don't know where the bullets went i don't know who shot interesting in hypnotize while hypnotize he also also realized that they were requiring him to leave his home and family behind and stay with them and he apparently said when he when i say he said the send response it's assumed he said it in response because these are the things he saying in the second is in session so these are the things that he mumbled and and we assume he said right he's remembering okay so in the hypnotism session he was recorded saying quote i know that you need me but i don't want to i like to be alone i have two children i feel good this way and after all you are not human beings you are horrible hey well again that is not going to get your way he's a fighter mountains lever over he's gotta be like listen i love it here your eyes are so beautiful triangle triangular in fact i might even buy like a condo appear if you guys and give me like drop a pin GPS wise and you run to pod let me go get my shit and then i'll come back to my ship i was like yeah i'll go get my i ship i'll get my shit you get your ship and we'll combine together and a big old cloud and then he takes his kids outage novia and fucking run for wait a minute the end and this is my story by so they he says he was required to appear eventually home but then he said some fighting words so i think that all this information's getting compiled into the report on the siting of UFO's by fortunato's infra in nineteen seventy nine and this report it actually got sent through magistrate's offices and things just to see if there was nothing they could do or like wow seriously yeah wow and the military police police even have one point defended him and said that the believability level of this report was good like they wow even they're unsure of what's going on okay okay also in nineteen seventy eight the year that these happened there were so many UFO sightings all over italy that at one point the minister of defense actually had to speak to the italian congress chris about it and like give his opinion on what was going on oh my god so he was not alone in having these UFO sightings this just happened to he had the most condensed experiences wow but he definitely wasn't wasn't alone and reporting sightings especially getting hypnotized and getting so much detail out of it right right and he is known i don't know about an all of you afo i don't know where he stands when it comes to in the entire world but at least in italy and maybe europe he is the person that gave the most document and most documented accounts of his experience so he has the most elaborate report that people take seriously because he's the one that has given the most information all right so was in fred his second encounter which already mentioned brought even more critical publicity a lot of people still thought it was a sham and he was trying to get attention so he was like like i said hypnotized for the second time but that hypnotism actually he broadcasted live on TV oh because he wanted approved everyone that like he was legitimately discovering things for for the first time and people should listen to what may be the doctor has to say in the room so that they're not being so critical of him did he make money off it no he never made any never profited offended from an experience i always wonder so i think he was also really scared in the fact that people were judging him or not believing him he was like like i don't know what's going on either i'm not gonna they want to take my fam- me away from my family dude i don't like it so he broadcasted his hypnotism the doctor ended up saying after seventeen quote quote the man is in a state of shock but he's perfectly saint so it actually ended up helping give him more credibility to the public which was exactly why he did it he wanted to be trusted but then he also also started getting invited to like TV shows and like a famous personality back then his name was enzo tortora and he had a show import a belen when he invited stanford on his show articles horta belo and they were afraid tortellini three mama mia mama mia that should be wait a minute that should be a broadway show wait a minute wait a minute there were articles about him regularly and newspapers papers and magazines all over the world and he was known as the man abducted by UFO okay so he is getting kind of international notoriety at this point but he was happy at the time of mike i'm glad that at least everyone saw what was happening and it's been confirmed by by professionals i'm not faking this yeah so he had a third encounter in nineteen eighteen seventy nine so a few months of actually passed happening you probably thought he was safe at this point i know this time he's again driving on a motorcycle in an area called quarto does that mean for i don't know spell it court oh cuarto yes cool i think quarter probably doesn't mean quarter i think so i mean i don't know i mean i guess it doesn't matter it's the quarter sure okay that's where he was on a motorcycle sure he disappeared shocker god and the guards found him two years louis two hours later sorry i can't even with this guy anymore i uh in my book after year one it's still looking god he disappeared in guards found him two hours later on top of a mountain mount fast say fast gay how the hell what the hell sure was like a crazy mountain i think it was just really tall hill but it's called mount fussy there apparently is only one road to get there and it was patrolled heavily by security guards on night and they no one saw anybody go there so how did he end up there is the question how did they find him oh there's already security up there yeah like i don't whatever happened where he was the quarter yeah and then he just showed up on a hill bill for him to have gotten there it was nobody reports seeing anybody weird and there's only one way to get there so they don't know what happened they were like all right we'll get back the hypnotism room because you gotta explain it again what's his name doctor dr murad he's waiting for you and so this time he's not just take until until like the same psychiatrist he's taken to the international center of medical and psychological hypnosis in milan ooh and he's injected consensually with truth serum because he's like i don't oh god like whatever comes out of my mouth i want people trust me he confirmed everything that he said before in previous hypnotism sessions and he also said that in this situation he was lifted from the ground into the alien spaceship by mysterious green light okay you know fog no fog that i can see in this one early like changing the game every time they really keep him on his toes wonder why this is every time he's driving other like that guy he's as you switch vehicles it doesn't matter yeah exactly on a moped he's just burden away on a line the doctor at the facility get that i think the one that actually administered the true sam he was also quoted saying no human being can knowingly lie while under the pentothal treatment so i think it's very probable and his opinion that's in front of these encounters so even like hypnotism hypnotists doctors doctors are like we have done everything we can make sure he's telling the truth and it's this is all coming out so i feel like you priority so this but just backtracking so was he hypnotize after being injected or was that just so i'm pretty sure you can bullshit through truth serum like it's not like foolproof roof but maybe if you're hypnotized on truth serum it probably is a lot harder ship bullshit i feel like it would at least lower your ability ability to the i don't know i can make you less manipulative yeah right i don't know amenable to like the effect of the truth serum i mean i'm clearly what am i just say professor of sign what am i just a PHD candidate listen false i am not time i was a a PHD candidate and then i was like i'm going to drop out and meet christine schieffer and started putting all come on listen good choices were made today all right so let's talk about the fourth orthon counter so this was also in nineteen seventy nine this was in december against this was the last one was in july this one's in december so they're starting to spread out a little more and this one was at ten thirty at night ends ends in fred disappears while driving while looking for him because at this point they're like this guy's gone for five minutes he must have gotten abducted so guards are just on top of like oh he's he's missing under all the tables and they must have given him a radio to bring home so while looking for him four guards actually do see something that looks like a a UFO in the sky and too bright lights come down directly on them while they're driving around in all of their car engines die oh so all at the same time multiple small cars die two lights come down directly on them when they see what they think is a UFO one guard actually shot at the UFO and the turned off and the thing in the sky flew alway okay i will it worked i didn't think that would work i think it would work either but i guess they like had their hand gun at one point and figuring out what bullets are in there like let's not mess around with that so they got outta there oh man okay apparently this is sad but a lot of st- it's i'm just going to say it anyway two of those guards that were also part of that experience was so shocked that he could never fully recover about the experience so my god another one couldn't recover to the point where he ended up committing suicide later because he was so rattled we're so the story goes i don't know what else was going on my god but so that makes this the one the only alien abduction cases where there was a victim after the fact because he wasn't even the person who is abducted no just someone who apparently experienced a UFO really and they agit they have i don't know if this is i don't know if they should ever not but and all the stories they have put that suicide into the framework of the story so they have made it seem like he was the victim and a murder victim or a death victim wasn't by his own they've they've played it up so that the situation could have been one of the reasons he couldn't questionable sure that's i'm i'm apprehensive to definitively say because he saw he's just saying we're not making that claim by any means no he happened to commit suicide right after something really really wild happened may or may not have played into that yeah that being said zubaydah ties again because he just knows his place at this point when he gets abducted goes missing they find like i'm gonna go get hypnotized so what he he says is an hour before he was found he was at a gas station he heard someone calling his name from the shadows very gusty but uh no apparently he couldn't resist it was like a siren mulling oh so he walked towards the voice and he heard the voice order him AM to drive into a small cloud floating above the ground which could also be fog sure okay but apparently there was a small dark cloud they said drive into it so we did he drove into the cloud in his car levitated inside the cloud then the next thing he knew he was on a spaceship with a humanoid figure now that sounds like the jetsons kylie sound very cartoonish now it does come into a cloud it sounds like harry potter too when his car's reporter to the chamber secrets harry potter junior but make it sifi but make it syfy mama mia making syfy perfect so the humanoid was apparently tall with a bald egg shaped head oh my he was dressed in a checkered suit with a shirt underneath that was made of steel whoa steel tank top in like checker eiser fun as funky feel like that could mean new york fashion week if i went to a club wearing that i'm not saying i wouldn't get attention in the right ways so zinn actually be like a sam's club the attention regardless if i'm wearing a steel sure yeah i know on the spaceship while walking around with the checkered occurred humanoid he saw transparent cylinders filled with strange blue liquid oh ooh thank you i listen i'm practicing so one of the cylinders had changed blue liquid also had a frog shaped body in it that the aliens called quote an enemy of ours from another our planet so apparently there's frogs on another planet that are much more evil little rocks or they're good frogs and their enemies of these guys considered the good guys for we actually saw an either the friend a frog grant figure a pow poll poll a tad powell never mind we'll work on it shopping shove it a totally great friend oh sure okay sure so which also interesting to me that the theory is that there's animals just like ours but with totally different personas on another planet who have like vendetta currently to the galaxy and like rocket coon maybe that frog was saying he wasn't a frog frog totally totally agree pal leave other you're telling me i was like no i've i've left the building so into more of those blue liquids cylinders were preserved big bird so apparently there's also birds and a caveman like human body oh my mike so it makes me wonder if there's caveman in another world or have they time traveled in like gotten a prehistoric human are now here and now they're going to get a future person or they've just been around around for that long that they were around when we caveman possibilities are endless i tell ya so during hypnosis of telling this story then apparently says out loud in his in the session where have you been and what do you want to do in spain why but altogether that will scare people as if he's talking to the aliens telling him some elaborate plan in spain oh my god the next day coincidentally the international service of the italian press i found out that there were there was news of a guy in spain who is driving in guadalajara and he saw UFO which followed his car for about an hour at blinded the driver vert and he lost control of his car and it went off the road and that happened to just be pressed that got spread internationally day did he die oh i don't know anything else that just was convenient inconvenient that someone in spain happy a UFO oh let's see those are big plan someone sees a UFO buca yeah i don't know i don't know what was supposed to happen and and to me that's kind of fishy apparently the dates complicate things because john fratto was abducted on sunday he was hypnotized on monday but the the guy in spain saw this thing on saturday oh so it's like okay so whatever whatever's happening tomorrow already happened oh it doesn't it really makes sense it just was a convenient thing that people started throwing into the story line of like oh in spain something did happen yeah ya but i'm here to give you all the facts okay but other than that we have no idea what plan they had in spain air everyone and i love it maybe he's in front of them out of it maybe so the aliens then gives infra data and object a gift of sorts it is a transparent sphere with a pyramid inside of it and from each corner of the pyramid pointing into the middle at sparking that sounds pretty so a glass circle with a pyramid with sparks going into the center wow i kinda like like that i want one apparently also called a quote golden tetra hejin that will rotate in suspension wow fancier version that i read ed i want one well they alien say quote with this it's possible to understand who we are and how we live sounds like a pretty fancy gift cool apparently zan freddie did not want to take the object aliens told him so ungrateful this guy he's look he's made it out alive four different experiences already so he didn't wanna take the object the aliens told them oh it's not for you give this give those this is actually not for you you actually the middleman nice try give this fear to dr j. j. a. h. or dr j. hynek and we back yeah we'll zamfara apparently didn't know originally but presumably the gift was was in the future to be given to dr j allen hynek who is a famous scientists and you if a researcher so if that story is true aliens even know who they're who our legendary UFO researchers are like sanford are you haven't given us one for an inch so forget you can you just bring this home can you pass this onto someone else you're just gonna be like this guy cares this is how we live in a messenger from now on well instead of giving the sphere to hynek hid the object somewhere in the hills near genoa what okay which i'll get to later the next encounter i've only got one more after this but the next encounter was in nineteen eighty only only two months later than fred disappeared again but the radio the car radio actually stayed in contact and had a signal will really into your time so they were able to find him really quickly he was found freezing and in shock and witnesses even told the police later minutes before rescuers arrived they had all seen a huge light in the sky shaped like a blimp mhm enduring hypnosis this is wins infrastructure to speak a new unknown language oh my god okay i'm ready for this and i don't know how to pronounce any of this i'm gonna confirm infirm christine's is that i shouldn't even try all of them i mean it's like a made up language literally like someone just like through their head on the keyboard and it just looks like juniper just walked walked all over my computer and deleted a bunch of files yeah yeah which is why this is medicare you the whole time let's just say that that's why so my fault journeys just is purchase literally just slam your hand on the keyboard and that's what this looks truly just a bunch of letters but then i did say that what was happening as he was contacting the aliens and then his voice changed now and he said to i guess into the session that he was in you can't work out anything in a case like this to believe or not to believe believe doesn't mean anything each thing in its own time it's pretty cryptic he was abducted again six months later oh my but at this point he is under twenty four hour close observation because stop so apparently he was acting really weird he was he was about to be abducted -ducted but they found him before the alien could get to him like he had already kind of escaped somehow and they grabbed him okay but under hypnosis because he's just their best client at this point in san francisco was apparently absolutely out of control at this point he refused to answer any questions he was not cooperative he was saying things that made no sense in the english that he was saying apparently he kept repeating the phrase question with negative answer pixel ooh that just gave me chills that is creepy june so it's almost like they were maybe the pixel means while they had that helmet maybe they fucked up his brain a little bit maybe or maybe they were talking through him and trying to tell him how to respond question with millions like he was now the messenger the vessel so at that point the doctor was quoted saying what is happening here is scientifically inexplicable couple tables also quoted but only the first half of what is happening here that's all scientifically inexplicable yeah they didn't know what was going on but uh other than those experiences there were not many more experiences that we know of john frederick calls only a few things from this time in his life but he says that he's had had encounters up to eleven times of both the third and fourth kinds ooh i'm going to quickly describe what the difference between those are but i actually feel like that might be a story later me talking about the different types of abductions i don't know yet but i'm going to look into it and i don't ruin anything for my potential future so the difference difference between a third kind of direction fourth kind is the third kind is if any animated creature is present so you don't have to necessarily interact with them but you can just see even okay that could be humanoids apparently even robots because it's an animated creature show or human occupants on a UFO so you don't even have to see an alien use have to interact act or watch from a distance something else living or moving what about like a crip did not guess this in specifically so there's a the actual scale for alien abduction specific right so this is this is alien though okay and apparently there are six sub types to that so sure of course we all get get into another time the forest kind which is also a movie about aliens that's apparently not even on the scale apparently the scale goes all the way up to the third he invented into the new one and then the fourth gun yeah the fourth kind is like a full blown production instead of experiencing something from a distance what do you mean like being taken onto a UFO and the robed and exempt isn't that what's the third one the third one is like from a distance like seeing listening it's not like an abduction yeah like god knowing something okay is nearby or like oh i saw a UFO where i saw a person on a UFO or tell yeah but not interacting i'm being probed or examined dirk shod it okay not being probed good well thank everyone likes that so in florida says that somewhere in the hills because i told you he hid the pyramid thing he says that somewhere in the hills where he hid this fear that was given to him by the aliens and he doesn't know why but for some arisen he's drawn to go there and visit at least twice a month and he doesn't know why but whenever he's near it he's waiting for something oh god oh no no no no so now he also later described these creatures as harry green loose skin with points on the sides of their face and rounded fingertips possibly infineon unlike the frog tat tat pal maybe that's why they are foes enemies of the state to similar so based on this description they could be a few things which i know none nothing about any of these but the list that i have found over my research was it could be rep toits i never heard of okay veronica's it ver verona's aliens which apparently had been seen in the former soviet union in nineteen thousand nine ooh they could be loveland frogmen yeah that's ohio i'm excited to learn about that well that's an extra twenty minutes from my house interesting you didn't know about this no i've told her to cover this before okay i'm gonna outrival i already took a picture of it they could also be a t- tonens because during one of the hypnosis sessions kazan freida had said that they came from a dying planet in the third galaxy called t. tonia woo and they were solely looking at earth to move there on on who knows anti tonio was no longer liberal the aliens are apparently this was only one source that i saw but apparently also said that these aliens were called call dr goes and they would be completely peaceful if they were to come here however we all know how tender emotional and sympathetic than fred has ever seemed he told them when they said oh we would come peacefully during a hypnosis session was recorded saying to them i know you were trying to come more frequently wait no you can't come to earth people get scared if they even look at you you can't make friendship please go god that sounds so familiar just said that to me you can't make frontier make french sorry one thing i was gonna say is it's to be fair he's not wrong wrong if they showed up the military is not going to welcome them with any military's not gonna welcome them with open arms the masses are not gonna help i think he's he's like i'm just is telling you now we won't because you can't make friendship we as a as a generic massive people won't relate agree maybe you can make friendship but weekends down but but yeah there's a lot of us and we have some issues with triangle is earned i don't think it's gonna work out so fred is is bulls and fred has this case is most famous as the sorry i'm reading my own autocorrect that did not work out the way they were supposed to let's try again ready go alexan freddie's case is the most famous account of a UFO abduction in europe and it's also one of the most famous urban legends in italy after his story the town where all this happened league we're laguardia laguardia genova laguardia called liguria is like the main area where genova was and all that but that area is now considered an italian UFO hotspot like i said is in front of has never made any profit from his alleged experiences but he does wish she never came out about his experience about experience because of how many harsh skeptics there were i bet that must suck he said this is a quote from him people call me on the phone own at all hours just to play jokes on me i don't know what it was that i saw but i saw it i'm not a liar if i could have i wouldn't have reported my experiences now that i see the consequences consequences wow which is so sad because it makes me think of all the people who probably have seen something in are afraid to come out right who are like i know i'm going to be ridiculed and which is also why they had recently when i did the san diego you a phone case that's why they re wrote like the protocol and how to do it that people felt more safe to come out with their experience yeah i mean i'm a suck dude yeah being laughed at for like a really scary experience yeah so so the sphere has never actually been seen by anyone so there's zero proof that it exists hebron the tetra he golden tetra hejin with a bag sure that guy zan fratto says he hid it and if anyone were to find it this sparks in the pyramid of this fear will attack them so even if someone has found it they will die i was mentally booking my flight to genova human anne hathaway so then fred has been compelled go near it at least twice a month but he but if anyone else were to find it they would they would probably get the italian center for UFO studies has stated stated the case is false purely based off of drawings at san fred has done from when he's hypnotized versus when he's awake okay because apparently they are totally different drawings but if you talk to anybody who is in the hypnosis community they'll say that like of course the drawings of an experience when you're hypnotized are going to be different than when you're awake i can't remember the experience like was going to be really clear and it doesn't have like enhance your memory it's not like i don't know enough about hypnosis to say say that on my understanding of it was always that you remember it until you come to and you forget but at least someone else has written down all the information so like is still repressed but but at least you can now talk through it so that it will come to you in a waking state at some point when you're ready for it but these are not confirmed by i'm totally guessing i'm totally that was my understanding of what it was feel like i had a different understanding but i also don't know my therapist is a lot of hypnotherapy maybe i'll ask her you you have the connection maybe maybe i'll do some drawings and tell you what happens i've literally never met a hypnotist ever if i did i would demand they hit me there's also the issue of like recovered like false memories reasoned stuff which so many think hypnosis is generally unreliable because doctors could feed the patient false memories and most most journalists are also critical of experiences except for a reporter named rhino destefano reno destefano stephan oh i don't know i would i'd say distefano but i would say to reno distefano this to funnel that sounds italian sure i don't know reno or either so reno's wrote a book called the infrared a case which was published in nineteen eighty four and as of only a couple years ago it's now also in english and also also an italian broadcasting network has made a docudrama about seven preta in his case he's still kinda getting some notoriety but he's basically known as the big alien abduction story and italy before i and i do want to say that there is a link that we can put in the description for you guys on youtube there are are clips of his actual hip note hypnosis sessions cool so will allow lincoln i watched it it's pretty cool i mean you can you're watching him lying down and really thus come so if you wanna watch it we will provide the free yeah i'll add that to the thing i also want to specify that my therapist is not do like regression regression therapy she does or hypnotherapy she does like phobia hypnotherapy to be clear like i'm not saying she does like fringe stuff i'm saying she does like for focus focus both my parents have been hypnotized my mom got hypnotized to stop drinking diet coke and to start drinking more water and it really it's supposed posted extremely effective it messed with her to a note i mean she's fine but she she now has an issue where like i guess whatever the hypnotists said it she registered in her head as like you need water on you at all times or you'll die and so that's just how her brain read it i'm sure that's not how i'm sure it's not how it was actually taken or handled or said but her brain put it in that way and so now if she if she doesn't have a bottle water next to her at all times she is a full blown panic attack my god but she hates diet coke so well one problem for another yeah here it's really effective for like on handling trauma and phobia and that kind of thing but who's to say i haven't done it yet i've been planning we've been planning on it for my needle phobia but we'll see oh too scared interesting staying yeah i'll let you know if i ever end up doing that 'cause i encourage you on that because i want to ask question well that's an ivy every eight weeks it's about time i fucking get over it but we'll see anyway anyway that's the story of house that's pretty crazy i also want to also add that i'm pretty sure it's general i feel like just like for the people don't it's general okay no-one make fun of christine only make fun of me well no i'm just saying we were only 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you yeah i'm sure you did you big creep you did just send me a picture mound but so that's one of many in my phone i imagined tag obsession russian hashtag obsession hashtag abs ash and now we'll work on it okay so the episode was called paging sarah anyway away the show obsessions very good but it's very very very scary and it's basically about people who've had stalkers essentially sometimes very upsetting violent stalkers walker's got it so tread lightly is what i'm saying i hear you this is the story of sarah he pees on they didn't tear last name PISA n. okay so she actually told the story on obsession about her from her perspective but she's like a survivor obviously of this so like it tells it from her perspective because i think it's like the most compelling and detailed look of anything i could find online but then as i go all like add details that i've learned from what was going on from other articles and stuff got it so january nineteen eighty sarah is nineteen years old and she moved to las vegas nevada with her three young daughters after separating from her husband they're like really excited for this new start in life they move into a beautiful house with some friends and two days in sarah starts looking looking for a job in the newspaper she finds an opening at a local gas station which apparently is called terrible herbst is literally the name of this gas station k. charitable name but sure i know i'm like let's talk about a really poorly foreshadowing like a very poorly done foreshadowing you should have a gas station that exists exists called like you can get murdered surprised and someone gets murdered exactly so she works at this place and or or she gets g. interviews of the place the right way is thrilled to everything's working out great now that's foreshadowing everything's working out fine the first night on the job she she meets a woman named cherry who is taking the night off to go on a date with her new boyfriend and so sarah filling in for her sh- areas like this upbeat fun young woman and she and sarah become close friends really quickly they're very similar and share it till sarah that her new boyfriend's name name is andrew ireland and he somewhat of a loner but like super sexy and she's falling in love with him that's what you say about me as sure christine especially especially after all that weird thing about you coming in from sky covered in heat or whatever listen that was the beginning of at all that was where i knew knew you were scared but you were curious what a loner so she says i noticed the next time andrew came to pick up share he stood outside and stared at me through the window the whole time no she's like got a bad bad vibe did you obviously so she said he made her feel like a piece of meat the way she was staring he was staring at her and she's like it was just the most unsettling unsettling like he's there to pick up sharee but like just through the gas station window she sees the sky like watching her and it's just very obviously very upsetting then a couple of days later sherry comes to work totally upset she's crying she's like she doesn't wanna talk to anybody they're like what's wrong what's wrong finally she spins around and screams he's married okay and turns out andrew ireland her boyfriend is actually married and so she's devastated you know she thought this was going go places and then the next day sherry just didn't show up for work oh okay yeah so i think we can probably guess where this is is going but obviously at the time they were like okay this isn't normal for her she has never missed a day of work or if she has you know she would call in so this is a a little strange and unsettling but like sarah's know her all that well they've just become friends so she just goes about her day fills in for sherry whenever she can next thing you know police arrive in ask if sarah and her co workers know anything about sheri's private life or if there's anyone who might want to hurt her and at this point they're like okay well something's definitely wrong right yeah obviously sarah's like okay i know about this guy she was dating named andrew ireland in the last time we saw her she was like devastated that he had told her he was married so maybe something to do with it but all she knows his name's andrew ireland is dark hair glasses that's all she knew from seeing him out the window right so obviously that doesn't give police much information to go on and the next day police find sheri's jeep abandoned in a parking lot of the shopping centre with her purse inside of it that's awful yes meanwhile sarah is promoted to manager because sheri's just hasn't showed up for work in so long so sarah ended up just replacing placing her as manager with sarah's new job comes a pager that her supervisor would contact her on it would beep and the message would come through live as as it was being spoken so it wasn't like record or anything oh okay it would like beep and then the message would come through so she was to have it on her if the supervisor needed to contact her her or have a run into the station to i dunno fix something i don't know but she had it on her and she was supposed to have it on at all times so one morning being sarah notices a car pull into the gas station parking lot the person parks walks up to her and he introduces himself as robert he's super sexy fairy friendly that's that's you already called a description you don't get to add more to your none of that i just forgot a couple of words that i called you yes yes so attractive very friendly and charming guy he's like you must be sarah if the new manager and she's like that's a little weird but also like he must be just a local is a really small town like he must just be a regular and she just hasn't met him yet okay so she's like a little taken aback but just assumed he had just heard her name around so he asks her out almost immediately really and although she's flattered because this guy's like super sexy she tells him she's a lot going on she has three kids she has a gas station to manage and she's new to town and so he's like okay you know what i'll give you time to settle in and we'll talk about it again another time which like she said no guy but all right oh okay okay so as he turns around right he says i can wait though well don't don't forget me okay and then walks away she's like and she starts looking forward to visits because like he's just very charming and flattering and like really good looking and felt safe to me though well obviously not gonna not even foreshadowing we're literally talking about in in the context of a murder show on TV show called obsession fair but very romantic so one day about four months after sheri's disappearance dan sarah is taking a shower at her apartment when she hears her pager go off so she grabs a towel jumps out to listen to the message because it comes in live and she needs to hear it and a voice samantha always comes over the pager and says you look good in a towel that's disgusting absolutely not obviously she she closed the blinds she makes the kids blur she makes sure the kids are safe but she's like oh my god maybe this is just some like one time peeping tom thing i don't like i don't know she just kind of tries to put in the back of her mind especially because there's literally no way to find out where the message came from so obviously things stop there as we know from how these stories always go in fact it goes was on for months that she gets these messages and they start escalating of course in a lot of the calls he would start telling her the things he would do to her while she could hear him masturbating firm pass he would say things like i i'm going to tie you up then i'm gonna cut you up no oh no of course she has three young girls at home so every time she hears this beeping she has to like run and turn like turn the volume down to make sure it's not because either your supervisor or this creep calling calling but on the other hand she's like just got this job she just got promoted and she's like i don't even know what i would have said to my supervisor and i don't think i would have been taken seriously so she just is like i'm going to try and just monitor and make sure my kids don't hear each but at a certain point she starts getting calls every couple hours and then she starts to hear screams while the caller was leaving messages a woman could be heard screaming in the background so no yeah it's really a disturbing guys by the way i knew it was going to say in the beginning but like this is one of those stories where like you're going to want to like at the end you're probably gonna go check your locks and double check your locks and your windows and screen doors because oh my god i watched step soda was like i'm locking up the whole house and that's tariff never letting blazin side again so meanwhile obviously she's wondering like who the hell could possibly be doing this to me like i'm new in town and then she realizes that her pager pager number is displayed behind the gas station counter in a way where it could be seen from the outside so literally any walking on the street could have seen which obviously doesn't narrow it down whatsoever in this town makes it so much worse yeah so there's like no narrowing it down meanwhile this handsome guy robert keeps coming to the station almost every morning continually asking her around which by the way guys or people in general is not sexy way to flatter someone if someone says no no means no communes now knows a full sentence as my mother would always say and they don't have to give you a reason either if they're not interested walk the fuck away and move on and guess sweat if they do change their mind maybe let you know but perseverance is not always what what you think it is now it's become stocking very quick charming arming is you may think it is so finally she literally just agrees she's like you know what i find this guy's handsome whatever he's being pushy i'm just going to agree to this date now so she tells him to give her a call sometime and maybe they can grab a pizza or beer and he's like thrilled he's like gray okay i'll do that fifteen minutes insulator sarah's coworker says hey you phone call it's robert he says hey it's sometime my god this guy yikes i would've immediately regretted that that she's like she's like yeah i guess so and he's like let's go out tomorrow and she's like okay great pick me up at my house gives him the address and says okay and before were they hang up so he's ready she's ready to hang up he tells her i've been looking forward to this date for a very long time the she hangs up the phone and she's like something is wrong here she's like that tone of voice was off and virk virk jumped on this tone that's just like she said basically which was his tone immediately put me on edge something told me don't go don't don't go listen listen to it chills so the night of their date the next day instead of going home by seven to be picked up by robert sarah decides to just stay at the a gas station and continue her shift and work late so she's decided to skip the date she stays until about nine thirty figuring like okay he'll be gone by then so everything's everything's fine she goes home goes to bed the next day sarah's at work when she spots roberts truck pulling in she thinks oh shit like he's gonna be pissed and like i don't even call it explain what's going on on ice totally stood him up what she doesn't expect is that he's going to rev up his engine and drove his truck directly at her body oh my god that's exactly what he does he charges his car her trying to run her over she throws herself into the gas station doorway and like just escapes getting hit by this guy so she turns around on jumps up locks the freaking door become before seconds later he comes running lamb his body against the glass door he starts screaming at her where the hell hell were you last night where the hell were you he's absolutely losing his shit she's yelling calm down robert i'm sorry and he screams sorry i had plans i made arrangements it's she tries to tell him things busy at work i couldn't get away i'm sorry just calm down we'll talk about it and he starts yelling isn't money you want sarah and he starts throwing like bills at her and he's like he calls her a whore and just start throwing bill that are and it's like is this making you happy is this what you wanted if you like completely deranged deeply upsetting to even watch the reenactment because like she's describing it this way and then he's like acting it out and it is disturbing as all go finally he just completely calms down he looks her square in the eye and says i went through of trouble and you didn't show up you selfish rush bitch you ruined everything wow so at this point she's like this guy is completely off his rocker he is a totally different person the way he was like for the weeks before this not at all charming she said his whole facial structure even look different like he just turned into like i totally like associated until the person right she said he looked pure evil but so she's like i gotta keep my cool and like run this place basically so she just tries to calm down and move on and the guy leads and she's like whatever i'm just going to avoid him from now on did it at great meanwhile meanwhile you guessed it the pager messages are coming in more than ever oh yeah i'm sure and more violently than ever oh i am sure and said yes also that they say things like i'm going to kill you slowly piece by piece she said it was always sexual and it would always end with either dismembering her stabbing her or shooting being her he wants also threatened to cut her eyes out oh my god she didn't know who to tell this point she's like you know nineteen years old she's like i thought about calling the police leaves but there's a small town like she didn't even know what to tell them how could she say like she didn't know you couldn't trace the calls there is just nothing she could think of to let them know at this point like she really hasn't this has been going on so long she hasn't connected it to this guy right and seemingly now looking back it's like well obviously but like this guy has been totally charming and disarming this whole time and he had one like meltdown because she stood him up but like she hadn't connected the two yet so hello sarah starts having traumatic nightmares as air i'm sure we all would she said it felt like she was living in pure hell and one night she's in her bed and her beeper goes off around two in the morning morning and she starts this terrible she starts hearing these whimpering sounds she says she can't tell if it's a human or an animal at first and as she listens she he realizes it's a woman the woman begins screaming sounding absolutely terrified and in pain as the beeper called progresses it sounds like someone who's being beaten on on the other end of the line one night around six months after sheri's disappearance sarah's on the night shift and she's reading the newspaper and there's this article about missing young women throughout las vegas yes and she's sitting there thinking of sherry and just like she doesn't know what to do she feels totally helpless i'll listen the gas station phone rings sarah picks it up and it's her mother her mother is completely frantic she tells sarah i just got off the phone with the las vegas metropolitan police department and they have linked to a homicide what and she's like mom what are you talking about she's like don't even ask questions get yourself to safety make sure the kids are safe so she's like totally blindsided by this she calls her friend and says hey at the kids locked inside died and as she's hanging up from that call the phone rings again and this time it's the police department detective is calling to warn her that she's in danger and needs to be out of sight right now oh shit she's like asking questions he's like we don't have time to give any more information you need to get yourself to a safe place and we'll come to you so she had this office in the back of the gas station she locks herself inside and hides not knowing what's going on until finally the police arrive and sarah lets them in and they tell her that around six PM they found the body of her friend sherry daniels daniels who had been missing this whole time no sherry had been dumped out in the desert she had been raped and brutally murdered and they found her wallet at the scene and when they opened her wallet they've found sara's name and home address inside all and at this point we got a contact this woman and make sure she's safe yeah 'cause there's clearly some connection here so of course is already traumatic because she just found one of her closest her only like good friend in town has been brutally murdered obviously but now suddenly she's tied to the case and is in danger so they put sarah into the squad car their lie down out of sight and they drive into the police station at the station they basically pass over to her this big album of mugshots they're like okay take your time go through these photos and tell us if anything rings a bell so she's looking through all all these photos she's like and they say do you know this man and she's like confused she's like which one and they're like no that's all the same man in this mug album so just like a master of disguise yes oh my gosh fucking crazy so he looks like a completely different for men in totally different races like he would change his hair and his facial hair darkness skin like he could change like he will hispanic and one photo and then he looked like a pale white guy another like just totally was able to manipulate the way he looked oh my god so she's looking through photo she's like i still don't totally know what's going on then she turns a page and sees robert and she's like holy shit that's him that's robert the guy who freaked out at the gas station and she they're like this is all him all these mug shots are that guy so she's turning the pages she's he's like stops robert holy shit and they're like keep looking and she's like well i already know like this the same guy and so she keeps looking through the pages and she turns another pages she realizes she recognizes is another man oh no it's andrew ireland boyfriend and she's like what realizing that's the same fucking guy that's been showing up at the gas station while you're right christine this is below bananas dude so police tell sara sorry this man is neither robert generoso nor is it andrew ireland his name is actually stephen peter moran and he has been murdering people since nineteen sixty nine only god and on top of that he was one of the most brutal and sadistic serial killers police had ever encountered they told sarah uh he had beaten and raped cherry several times and suddenly sarah realized that she had heard it happening home over her pager aw that's terrified her quote at this point in the show was i think he was killing my friend while he was beeping me and she's just like crying i mean this is like a letter but it's just still i'm sure the sounds are still fresh in her head can you imagine that beeping must just be like the most traumatic sound near a pager again make your over terrible terrible so they tell her all this what he's done to her friend sherry and then they say eventually he shot her in the head and dumped her body oh my my god so they show her pictures of all the women he had murdered and she looked at them she realized she was looking at all the same attacks like violent things that he had been threatening her with over the pager so dismemberment shooting he had even cut someone's is out like he had threatened my god so these weren't even empty threats like these are things who was actually carrying out they knew of at least forty four women and seven men that he had murdered forty four oh my god and police hadn't been able to track him all that time most likely due to master of disguise status addis he was just ability he just had his ability to hide under different aliases and what he'd been doing apparently is taking names off of tombstones who are about the same age as him and then like calling for their birth certificate and creating false identities at people wow police tell sarah she's an extreme danger her and she starts to feel completely hopeless if they haven't caught him in all this time how the hell are they gonna catch him now and they tell her you need to get out of town like is there or anyone you can stay with we don't have the resources in this town to like keep an eye on you at all times and you're not safe here so the next day sarah drops her kids off at the babysitters and says i'm just going to run into the apartment to grab a couple of things before getting the girls and heading out of town to my mom's place in texas oh no sorry in arizona so she heads to her apartment met with her friend sally and she's like she was afraid obviously she wanted someone there with her to like just bolster her ram because she was so scared taylor walking toward the apartment and suddenly sally squeezes sara's hand and mouths towards get in the car they run back to the car it just fucking peel out of there as quickly as possible once they get away sally looks at sarah and says he was in there i heard him he was behind the door as they were like walking up to the freaking wreaking apartment oh my god so police searched the house and lo and behold there is a chair behind the door that was not there that sarah had not put there that had been place there strategically so he could sit and wait of course pleased like okay it's safe to go in now and look around she's like i'd rather not never wanna go again thank you so they company or in she sees this chair behind the door that she had not put their based on the evidence he had been sitting in that chair waiting for her to walk through the door and had i plan on shooting her she looked at her end tables where her where she kept her address book and he had been rifling through her address all know so everyone yes eh potentially very unsafe meaning now he not only knew of reward but literally anywhere yes like anyone in your family anywhere she would possibly go anything from doctors to bank to her mom's house her grandma's house like anyone that he wants yep he now has access to exactly so police tell sarah that stephen stephen moore and they believe is so obsessed with her that he will not stop until he got her so sarah's like great that's super for me and she takes her kids and heads to her mom's house in arizona so she did a little bit safer especially because police now set up like a guard blocks on her street and she's at at least with family church in a different state but at the same time like she can't leave the house even to take out the trash like she's completely favored yeah i like she's drowsy imprisoned prison in her house and her kids are two and she doesn't know how to explain the kids it's just very very rough time so one day she's at her mom's house it's around christmas time and the phone phone rings it's a familiar voice on the other end of the line okay he says i still know where you're at and i'm still going to kill you oh my god so he had founder her at her mom's house and found her landline or had it in the address book i guess and had had founder so sarah takes her kids and moves again this time to her aunt's house in texas and then in december nineteen eighty-one when she's finally at this point like i don't even know how can live like this anymore sarah gets a call from police they say they have finally finally arrested stephen peter morin after a four year f. b. i. hunt wow so that's how long it took even once the FBI on board oh my gosh they caught him trying to board a greyhound three hundred bus trying to get out of san antonio texas where he was wanted in another murder okay this time a woman named kerry marie scott whom he shot while while attempting to abduct her in her work parking lot at the restaurant where she worked oh my god his last victim this is where it's like weird in a totally different way i don't even know no this was in the episode this is just like a totally different avenue i found on the internet that's like what the hell is going on okay so his last victim was a woman how many margaret palm who according to the dark side of america dot com spooky blog was abducted from a shopping center but at gunpoint and then wrote around with him in her car for ten hours allegedly converting him to christianity in the process okay okay she played tapes of texas even evangelist as she's driving him around and read him quotes from the bible finally after ten hours he let her go and she and he attempted to board a greyhound one bus which is again where he was apprehended and he willingly surrendered himself to police without resistance weird okay so police speculated though when they talk up to sarah that he was in texas because he was trying to track her down after she had moved to her aunt's house who they were like we think he's literally in the state to find you you so thank god they caught him yeah exactly once he was apprehended morin claimed he was a born again christian and changed man because of ten hours in the car with someone when he didn't kill for one time didn't murder so the woman who drove around with him actually tells us story and like a sermon like i listened to it online it's like on some website called god with us dot org or i don't know another interesting blog earn that so she tells us holik sermon back in the nineties and like nick how she's abducted is very scary and she's like and then i said do you know jesus and he was like no and i don't want which the congregation left so i feel oh i can laugh like she said a kind of jokingly but she was like yeah so i talked to him a red for my bible whatever whatever so morin did plead guilty and confessed to capital murder and he's actually the only the second person in texas history to do so because it's essentially volunteering for the death penalty so you're not like bargaining your way out of the death penalty you're literally saying no i did a a and i'm going to die for it okay willingly got it so his lawyer said oh he's a born again christian he's admitting to this because like he has changed changed his ways and but born or not he chose to keep quiet on over thirty unsolved cases he was a suspect in and did not allow anyone to get closure on those fronts doesn't sound ungodly couldn't have felt sorry for what i don't think yet so stephen where are we steven peterman became the sixth person to be executed by lethal injection in texas since the state began using lethal injections in one thousand nine hundred two before his death he gave the following statement as his last last words let's hear it heavenly father oh my god it's just it's so much worse heavenly father i give thanks for this time for the time that we have have been together in the last twenty dollars you and me but under the line thanks for this time for the time that we have been together the fellowship in your world the christian family family presented to me then he called the names of the witnesses as the family presented to allow your holy spirit zero to flow is i know your love has been showered upon me forgive them for they know not what they do i'm like that line you're gonna use jesus's line oh my curbing crucified is that what you're saying asshole forgive them for they know not what they do as i know that you've forgiven me as i have forgiven them lord jesus i commit my soul to you i praise you and i thank you because of his heavy drug use it took medics nearly forty five minutes to find usable vein oh no again this whole story it has made me reconsider my needle fear desire to seek hypnotherapy from my lovely therapist so it took them nearly forty five minutes to find a usable vein they tried his arms and his legs multiple times for they could find anything through the scar tissue that would work it's just so disturbing morin was pronounced dead at twelve fifty five AM on march arch thirteenth nine hundred eighty five at the age of thirty four so thirty four years old he was already wanted an over at thirty four he's killed more people than years he's lived exactly exactly exactly chris okay so this is wild so there's this article i found in the guardian and it's this guy named chris clark and he actually writes how he was friends with more but you know not in the when he knew what was running over his mom actually dated him and so he was like his step-dad for a long for a while for few years and he talks about how close he was with this guy and he knew him as a and he's like ray really like helped me and got me my first job and and they bonded and became close about socks yeah it's like really upsetting and for what it's worth chris calls mourns last words quote his like you you know christian statement so his former stepson basically calls his last words quote a marvel of manipulative sociopath -i the best yeah phrase seis perfect and accurate completely he believes moore's using his newfound christianity in an attempt to manipulate any right wing texans who are part of the legal system could have spared him didn't work obviously cruises article talks about his relationship with the guy he called the sick fuck and how he is still to this day grappling with the fact that he wants help to more input carpeting in the back of van not knowing that moore would later use is this van to assault and murder women and chris obviously so grappled with that to this day especially because more in once saved his life oh well so they were they had this painting job together and once he was on this ladder that began to slide over and he was like i pushed gonna die like this latter the latter was going to slide off the wall and i was gonna fall several stories my death and he remembers ray who uh-huh sorry more had told him his name was ray and actually one of his disguise yes exactly remembers ray helping him bring the ladder back to safety before we're studying it and guiding him down and this is the last night of the guardian article i thought it was just very point because he talks this whole time about like how much this guy like fucked him up and whatever and so he says and yet and this is the story and i did it i pulled back violently on the ladder and slammed it back into place in reach of the window now i helped ray tie the ladder securely to the window frame as i sobbed relief then descended on increasingly shaky legs ray met me as i reached the bottom grabbed me in a bear hug kept me from slumping to the ground and that is a story of serial killer peter morin who's one of the most fucked up serial killers i've ever heard of an somehow hadn't heard of that's he crazy story i just like and if you read the story online there's nothing about sarah who told the story on so weird you know because like if she hadn't story before like some of the excerpts i bred for the bridgewater triangle i was like how is this an only one source not everywhere well if you think about like what she you wouldn't have shared it before they interviewed her on the show and once i mean it's a recent show so once episode came out people were like oh wow there's this new side to the story but like since he had murdered or do you know forty four women like those are the main points of contribution rather than like the person who wow survived him so anyway it's just a wild wild story and i didn't even know i i was like watching this episode like this guy is such a creep and then i was like oh my god this is like a murderer for the ages 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76: Saturn Surpasses Jupiter
"Discovered orbiting Saturn how asteroids affected its climate and summer without sunspots all that and more coming up on space time this is Space Time series twenty two episode seventy six for broadcast on the eighteenth of October two thousand nine hundred nineteen coming up on space-time twenty new moons the Subaru Telescope Atop Mono- Kaelin Hawaii and undoubtedly they won't be the last you're listening to space time still to come plans for indicates that these collisions occurred after the planet forming process was mostly complete and where the dust disks were no longer a factor than you moons were discovered orbital hotel around the Earth by twenty twenty five and Asama without sunspots with a son undergoing an incredibly deep solar minimum broken apart these retrograde moons belong to the North Group with names coming from norse mythology and one of these newly discovered retrograde moons is the farthest known in moons to eighty two surpassing Jupiter which is seventy nine h of that newly discovered moons is about five kilometers wide seventeen at the moment senate during the solar systems early history the sun was surrounded by a rotating disk of gas and dust out of which the planets eventually formed and astronomers a similar scenario would have happened on a planetary scale around somewhere like satin the fact that these newly discovered moons were able to continue orbiting Saturn after their parents broke apart well move over Jupiter Saturn is the new moon king following the discovery of twenty new moons orbiting the Ring World this spring sentence total number of information about the conditions surrounding satin at the time of its formation the moons of sat in a pity be grouped in three different classes in terms of their inclinations objects such as asteroids or comets that were passing by the third Yuli found programmed moon has an inclination of thirty six degrees which is similar to another grouping of WPRO grade moons are close to the planet taking back to Earth years to travel once around satin the more distant retrograde moon and the remaining programmed moon each take more than on it in retrograde that is in the opposite direction sentence rotation well the other three moons orbit in pro grade the same duration as sentenced spins to the newly-announced retrograde moons have similar inclinations to other previously earn Richard Grades Attorney and moons indicating they were also likely fragments of a once large apparent moon that had uh three years to complete an orbit the study's lead author Scott Ship it from the Kennedy Institute says studying the orbits of these moons can reveal a lot about their origins as well as four hundred sixty six million years ago appear Johnson this kind of grouping of Atta moons it also seen around Jupiter indicating violent collisions occurred between moons and the Centurion System Oh with outside vision salary and extinction event evidence in this glaciation can be found in places as far apart as Morocco South Africa Libya and Wyoming grade men's around Sandton Nana's the gale group mostly named after heroes from Celtic mythology but this new orbits much further away from Satin than any other program a significant amount of biological diversification the order vision glaciation is the first part of the Andean Saharan glaciation and is the leading cause of the eight moons indicating it might have been pulled out with the time or might not be associated with the more in groupings of programmed moons if a significant amount of gas or dust was present to find out more entered ugly speaking with astronomer Dr Frit Watson now Fred we are going to look at this particular asteroid group as their named after methology it's thought these moods may once have been part of a legitimate that was broken pat in the distant past likewise the just the amount of dust from this asteroid collision was enough to trigger a major climate changing event known as the Order Vision glaciation which caused a major cooling of the them the earth would have also been all that dust increasing stratospheric dust levels by between three and four orders of magnitude scientists say that's enough to trigger L. contract asteroid was found in sedimentary samples taken from these in Petersburg in Russia and from the south of Sweden now and you report in the journal Science advances asteroids collided in the main asteroid belt between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter the impact generated a huge amount of space thus which spread right across the solar system ice age by blocking sunlight reflecting back into space for eventually floating down onto the earth's surface this dust which has been identified as coming from the break-up he's the angles at which they orbit around the planet to the newly discovered programmed moons fit into a group of atom moons with inclinations of around forty six degrees and as the injury smash up as the describing it which dates back four hundred and sixty plus million years and now it's thought that this particular event may have caused an ice evidence derived from isotopic data suggests that during the lead automation tropical ocean temperatures were five degrees Celsius cooler than the prison day and that would have been a major factor the large moon broke apart and created these clusters of small fragments there would have been strong friction interactions between the small and the gas and dust causing them to spiral into the after the breakup of that asteroid four hundred sixty six million years ago that put ten thousand times more dust into the atmosphere so age on a set that sounds rather unusual or interesting or both yeah it's I mean when we talk about asteroid lasted somewhere between a million thirty five million years generating between fifty and two hundred and fifty million cubic kilometers of is shaped volume is it about four hundred sixty six million years ago four hundred million Lunga back in the past than the dinosaur demise there was not a collision of an asteroid weeks rather than years decade it was very quick and it's that that caused the demise of the dinosaurs they basically have nowhere to go though thing happened too quickly uses the temperature what you also have as dust in the inner solar system which reduces the amount of sunlight coming from the sun to the planet so you've got a double whammy it just means that the meteoric dust increases by factor of ten thousand until what you've got is a blanket of dusted Niaz atmosphere the the F. With Dustin daybreak and caused a sudden drop in temperature this is a drought that might only taken months or even days aided in the glaciation process the later the vision is the only glaciation period piece of coincided with a mass extinction of nearly sixty one percent of marine life tweet particularly prehistoric like sweet think of the Dinosaur smush The darndest asteroid collision which at six million years ago and basically asteroid hit may have been one as big but whatever it was it was an impacting object which effectively demolishes the big asteroid reduces it to rubble so that basically the at the sunlight reduced but also the atmosphere positive atmosphere the light it absorbs of shadows that also reduces the radiation falling lake has the number of effects but the bottom line is it fills up in the solar system dust so there's some interesting numbers here we know that some D- with the earth but a collision of an asteroid with another one probably a smaller one the smash up the the big one is still two hundred out what happened is evolution was ahead of the game so species evolved because of the temperature was cooling they evolved to cope with that so for a long period the temperature is low now the evidence for this comes from micrometeorites in the geological laugh that a little bit of a folk will from one hundred don't pull a cold water fish Gobi great or division biodiversity vacation event that's telling you that were Species huge blossoming in the number of species one he's also dust in the atmosphere micrometeorites what tell you that that was a lot of stuff in the atmosphere because that's found its way into the geological record thing like one percent of the dust in the atmosphere today from a meteorite this meteoric but the few million years his lacked a mechanism would have caused it so really interesting stuff and you said you know counterintuitive although there is a big difference between Edyta between an actually instead of an extinction you get what is known in the trade apparently as the great or division bio-diversity vacation event the environment was actively totally destroyed goldfish Dr Paypal pour cold water into a fish tank it's the same thing ah but slow process this is the k thing and that is the really interesting part of this story because Yes jive as you've said the commenting on Cosmos went Richard love to expose got away with words he talks about them not mass extinction but evolutionary EXO planets black holes exploding stars and one of the greatest mysteries of all dark matter explains how all the subjects tying together the crow meteorites the strata I think they are approximately the size of a coin that quite small than just little bits of debris but they tell you that that is get science fiction as philosophy even learn how to play the piano or master stress management there's a whole world of history knowledge to explore and the courses plus right now space-time listeners get an entire month of the great courses plus for free so sign up today for a whole month three virtually thousand it and it was a slow burner and life Kinda just exploded as a result actually effective. That's right a bit counterintuitive it causes plus at makes it easy to watch or listen anytime anywhere on your way to work relaxing on the lazy afternoon or during that long flight the steps of the about fifty kilometers in diameter and the daybreak from that explosion to impact very quickly blanketed introduction to astrophysics a fascinating 'cause woolworth a look and of course we have a special offer for our space time listeners expand your mind sign up to the of lectures to choose from that to get your free trial you need to sign up using our special url that's the great courses plast dot com slash space the great courses plus fifty kilometres which is actually ten times the damage was killed off the dinosaurs so you've got this object hundred and fifty kilowatts in data something runs into it probably home okay let's take a break from Asha to talk about our sponsor the great courses plus have you ever heard the phrase you don't know what no well the great courses plus is the perfect place they hope you fill those gaps learning doesn't stop with this streaming service there are thousands of lectures on virtually artificial gravity although they will have to drink water partly recycled from Sweden urine and just like two thousand one space odyssey the von Braun Space Station any topic you can think of as you might not think of all presented by top professors in dive into the Hubble Space Telescope learn more about nuclear energy satellite where these four hundred sixty six year old impact the geological add over a period of I think selling like two million years is characterized by these kicking the pants for life to adapt that's what gave you the scope the great or division an unreal times it was the opposite to the Donoso as yet solar cycle is now underway the show notes and on our website and now it's back to our show this space time it gives us a bitter clearer picture of the universe and it's all explained in clear terms that don't dump things down and provide you with a better understanding of how it all works behind the ambitious project claim they have Brown space station yes it's named after the Nazi rocket scientist will offer cruise line levels of comfort luxury cuisine and even welcome to space time we'd Stewart Gary but the commentators on this work are not connected with it they seem to like the idea they think that's a really good explanation for this diversification event that until now Egede admit price tags for a visit to the space station will be every bit as astronomical views still they expect plenty of cashed up millionaires and billionaires to visit it created an ice age but I say jr was so gentle and slow in coming the alight the phenomenon weather dinosaurs were wiped out asteroid hitting the earth and two asteroids colliding in between Mars and Jupiter table in the night asteroid belt that's professor Fred Watson and astronomy with Pam Silence speaking with Andrew Dunkley on SISTA programs space nuts and this is space time I'm Stewart Gary Dot com slash space so sign up today and expand your universe the great courses plus dot com slash space and of course there's your old details becomes a reality within the next six years for that matter within the next sixty years is quite enough thing back during the space tourism boom at the turn of the century people pay between with student Gerry. The Sun has been undergoing a remarkable period of Sun spotless a report by space Russia's Lawrence than you top secret military spy satellite designed to monitor enemy missile launches deepest solar minima in a century interestingly the summer of two thousand nine hundred and also brought a sign that the solar minimum is finally coming to an end meaning a new eleven years dot com says that during the northern summer of two thousand nineteen the face of the sun was blank and without sunspots more than eighty nine percent of the time that makes this one of the then you alter exclusive resort but as to that name that von Braun Space Station still I guess it could be worse they could've hotel Hitler we won't go there and we'll be ring shaped with twenty four residential modules accommodating up the four hundred people at a time taking in around one hundred new visitors every week of course whether any of the street is not the year two thousand one space odyssey just yet but promoters claim they will have the world's First Space Hotel operational by twenty twenty five the company twenty million and sixty million dollars for a ticket to ride aboard a Russian Soyuz capsule to the International Space Station I save just over a week and the promoters of this new got been checking out one of your courses introduction to astrophysics presented by Professor Joshua Win in this course he was a lot of the topics we talk about on space time things Tov it's got the fact of the asteroid dinosaurs but this is a different sort of collision there is evidence and I'll come to that in a minute but there is evidence the highly classified mission was flown aboard a Soyuz two one bay rocket equipped with the forget up a stage from the Plesetsk cosmodrome eight hundred kilometers north of Moscow although no official details of the flight have been released not that he's noticed him and warnings were issued for impact sites spent rocket stages in southern Russia and over the Pacific Gary this has been another quality podcast production from bites dot com important as many of the most you know really energetic and violence sort of phenomenon in nature give off xrays the light inside your room gives off visible has reported the spacecraft was experiencing anomalies and the engineers were investigating the issue indicated above the Arctic Circle for as long as possible on each over the planet allowing it to keep a wary eye out for any potential missile launches of the North Pole Beijing is to confirm reports that its new next generation Chinasat eighteen telecommunications satellite has failed shortly after being placed into Ward I ballistic missile Early Warning System Constellation so wouldn't be fairly certain that this launch was indeed one of the new Tundra satellites so what do we know about it and then de orbiting south east of Tasmania now all that matches the exact ground track for two previous Tundra satellite launches which were flying the Kremlin's launch the border long march three bay rocket from the Chiang Satellite Loan Center the spacecraft apparently fell to deploy solar arrays needed supply power to the satellite the World Health Organization now says some seven million premature deaths per year I linked to air pollution air pollution affects human health some fifteen hundred kilometers down ranch from the launch pad at a location designated as the twenty one impact site with the third stage finally deploying the frigate Upper Stage and satellite right telescope and that means satellites because you have to get above the atmosphere in order to see the sky in x Ray that's because it's air blocks almost all roles and colliding pulse is and even really hot gasping squeezed gives off x rays it's the sort of stuff we couldn't say from down here on the ground until we got satellite these instruments are designed to observe remote objects in the X ray patterns electromagnetic spectrum not get above the atmosphere which is pegged to x rays actually tell us good all copies of variations of a detected telescopes system joining us now with the details is a strain sky and telescope editor Jonathan Alley in the October issue of Australians fifty kilometers to the south of Plesetsk and the payload fairing would've been fallen into the Western Siberian plain the cost age would have separated and crashed to the ground this report comes courtesy of Acer TV the atmosphere crucial for life on earth it makes our planet habitable however air pollution has become the China's set eighteen was the first base graph based on an enhanced version of the Chinese Deif h four satellite platform the official China Jing one US agency all around the globe studies even show that in the urbanised regions of Europe ninety percent of the population is exposed to harmful levels of air pollution and you issue of Australian sky and Telescope magazine hit the newsstands and this month's cover story looks at the science and history of earth orbiting x ray telescopes here is problem human activities are altering our atmosphere at an unprecedented scale this has an impact on equality and is affecting people's health right because that's the that's what wavelengths are given off by divisive that temperature humans actually brought us an infrared yeah if you put an infrared flown aboard high altitude rockets aboard balloons and more recently aboard artificial satellites many existing telescopes on satellites are compounded of Monitor nativities recent studies have also shown that even relatively low levels of Appalachian can affect People's health in order to better understand this in a multitude of ways from heart and respiratory diseases through the asthma and even people's cognitive abilities for the past two decades the European Space Agency has been in situ measurements with satellite data this can be achieved at a larger scale across regions and countries thus tracking pollution as it's this craft will eight satellite weighs three thousand two hundred and fifty kilograms this one went by the pseudonym of Cosmos two five four one and it would have been placed into ammonia orbit really flown this allows sentinel five paid monetary pollution and even forecast ages in advance warning people about potential bad smog days in their region before it hits bred by the wind over the last two decades the European Space Agency launched a number of satellites that observe our atmosphere the measure air pollutants applications warning the public on poor air quality in their region with capanic sentinel five P. launched in twenty seventeen which carries a novel instrument being a pollution on a global scale monitoring where it originates and how it spreads across the planet the lightest orbital weapon atmospheric pollution monitoring is Ace's recently launched has bridged the gap between research and operational services using both satellite and in situ measurements the copernicus atmosphere monitoring services provides infant nation about air composition and quality across the globe of the European level it's almost like a weather forecast this information is picked up by media and smart go troppo me a big stack was taken to observe sources of air pollution now pollution hotspots are clearly visible this increased spatial resolution every day within the Copernicus Programme Isa and the e you are already preparing new missions to monitor our atmosphere for now one of the potential future sentinel missions has been proposed to monitor emissions of carbon dioxide our atmosphere is precious but pollutants purpose mission sentinel five precursor spacecraft Sentinel Five P. Uses advanced spectograph called Termi which is ten times better resolution than any pre according to the world organization averse equities responsible of seven million premature death on a global scale seen from the ground that's Jonathan Nellie the editor of Australian sky and Telescope magazine and this is space time based measurements to be implemented in operational services for air quality monitoring but also for forecasting the CAPANIC is program with its sentinel satellites astounding how they spread we might find solutions to keep our planet breathable and sustainable that report by each TV include Vincent Henry Pew at a and find solutions scientists need reliable data on where and how old the air is being polluted and how it spreads this can be done locally by taking instrument and time now to take another brief look at some of the other stories making missions are both responsible for poor air quality as well as adding to the greenhouse effect driving climate change by monitoring emissions and under strive coming in from out of space which with vice it's a pretty good thing otherwise we'd all get fried for astronomers being able to study the university x Ray wavelengths is really nineteen minimum extent which was likely ridged on September the eighteenth measured just four point one five million square kilometres the Arctic Sea ice cap is an expansive frozen Germans had with its drop Omi Instrument Copernicus Sentinel Five P. is showing how important it is by delivering operational data on Air Quality Comes from Sentinel Five Piece Spectrometer the Tacoma instrument the Trapattoni instrument is really a big step forward in but we hear what we can do and the real problem equity affects our health in many ways from causing heart and respiratory disease do exacerbating asthma and even impacting Europe Europe and bouncier estimate to four injured to five hundred thousand premature death occurring so this is a very real before chartered five kilometre deep sea for canyons are named volcanic seamounts unlikely new species of deepwater coral than you discoveries came on top of the distribution of important marine habitats me research by scientists that puts Curtin University into how Earth rocks formed billions of years ago consigns this week with a science report the extent of Arctic Sea ice at the end of this northern hemisphere summer season has effectively tied with two thousand seven the only and now with the Copernicus Mission Sentinel pfeiffer precursor we have coverage within one day and this allows for the first time to use the space how did the study with mild cognitive impairment drinking more than fourteen weekly drinks was associated with an increased risk of developing dementia compared to those who dragged just the little again with a ground resolution about three and a half by seven kilometers which is
Birds threatened by rapid climate change
"And so across the Cambridge and Dr Daniel Field Who's going further back into that. Avian history via their fossils. Take us back now in the Sancho on show about four or five weeks ago I had my Benton from Bristol talking about the fact that when the asteroid hit there are only about five species of what became birds words left and they were on the ground because the virgin the traits have been wiped out and from that just five species you had ten thousand in the modern Sunday evolving so any idea what the process may have been although sixty five million years ago. It is definitely true that there were only a small handful for that we have direct evidence of and the immediate aftermath of this mass extinction event the rate at which avian evolution preceded appears to have been an extremely high and it seems that many of the deepest divergences within the modern Bertram Life appear to have sprung forth relatively rapidly after the extinction event took place and from those deep evolutionary divergences at that point in Earth history the descendants attendance of those early ancestors Bonnenberg's ultimately gave rise to inaccessible ten thousand living species who was quite an explosive evolutionary interval birds so the very versatile and they moved around and the patent to the way they moved around say sixty million years ago fifty million years ago well if one of the most fascinating standing things about birds is just how dispersive they are of course and in fact the majority of avian biodiversity in the present day is restricted to Earth's lower latitudes close to the equator which means that there are many groups of birds found only for example in South America or Africa or Australasia as your listeners will be aware of and trying to understand how those groups of birds became restricted to those areas is fascinating and we think has bird paleontologists that the fossil record Eckard can tell us quite a lot about how and when those groups of birds became restricted to those areas of the world where we find them today. Do you personally go out with your colleagues. Yes and excavate I do yes. So I carry on active fieldwork in North America and in Europe and fascinating to attempt to find direct evidence of the evolution pollution from the fossil record in that way the problem with being a bird. Paleontologist is that bird. Fossils are difficult to find but there are certain places in the world where the bird fossil fossil record is actually quite excellent. So there's a wonderful locality in western north. America called the Green River formation about fifty two million years old that provides us with a a lot of important information about avian biodiversity at that point in history. This is in the early Eocene point in time when the earth was quite warm and what's fascinating about localities like the Green River formation. Is that within these fossil beds we find evidence of early ancestors of modern groups of birds and some of these groups of birds are the sorts of it was talking about before that are found only in very different parts of the world so for example we recently recently published evidence that a fossil from the Green River formation is very closely related to a group of birds called Turco's which today are only found in sub Saharan Africa so of course the presence of this fossil in North America suggests that the past distribution of Turco like birds was much broader better than their distribution in the present day. Let's look like well. They are an amazing group of living birds there some of the most charismatic looking birds in the world some of them are very brightly colored. Some of them are bright green with bright MAGENTA flight feathers the find those birds extremely beautiful. The Greens in the Magenta colors are generated unrated by unique pigments. That are only found. Turco's there's another species called the great blue tirico the largest living Turco species which is bright blue they really really are striking in their phenotype. Their fruit eating birds their Latin name. The MUSSO fantasy means banana eaters but one fascinating thing about that. Fossil fossil is that we think at least one aspect of its ecology was very different from the ecology of living Turco's so living Turco's are almost always found in trees. Were most of their fruit comes from and that is corroborated. By the fact that the legs of Living Turco's are relatively short so many groups of tree-dwelling quelling birds have relatively short legs whereas ground dwelling birds tend to have longer legs so this fossil from fifty two million years ago has very long legs suggesting getting that. The early evolutionary history of these are boreal tree-dwelling birds may actually have taken place on the ground and that's fascinating because of what what you talked about before if we think that forests around the world were devastated by the asteroid impact sixty six million years ago that of course wiped out all of the giant dinosaurs. And we think that asteroid impact played a major role in structuring the early evolutionary history of birds and therefore it may baby unsurprising that the earliest evidence we find in the fossil record of numerous groups of tree-dwelling birds suggests that actually early on in revolutionary history these early tree-dwelling bird ancestors were not actually dwelling in trees and it's probable. These groups only moved into the trees when forested habitats sprung back in the aftermath of this mass extinction event which may well have taken quite a while the birds and the populations are incredibly sensitive to climate change. You expect similar sorts of redistribution of bird species as as we watch. I think it's very probable. So our work has suggested that climatic climatic shifts over millions of years may have largely dictated the geographic distributions of many major groups of modern birds such that many of those groups groups that we find in what we think tropical habitats today were essentially forced down towards the lower latitudes as global climate cooled over the last sixty to your so million years but of course we as human beings are altering the future of the climate on our planet and of course the trajectory that we we are now on suggest that we may well be entering a phase in earth history characterized by elevated temperatures and altered precipitation patterns Saturn's that in some ways may be similar to what we experienced earlier on mighty faster. Perhaps exactly I think the rate of change is is really what's important here so whereas over millions of years these tropical groups of birds may have been redistributed as global climate change more gradually the fact that global global climate seem to be changing so rapidly in the present day due to human activity. May well make it more. Challenging for these Groups of birds to track suitable habitat as a changes inches over the coming decades and centuries and unfortunately may well be that many of these groups of birds with sort of restricted geographic distributions may instead go extinct in the near future wanting. This rather surprising for someone from Australia is walking around London hawks and seeing parakeets hundreds of them zipping around is these green parrots perfectly at home and training the tourists to feed them. And it's not supposed to happen. Parrots in Britain even as far found north of Scotland. So amazing. It certainly is but in fact. There's a precedent for that as well when you turn back to the fossil record of Europe some of the earliest known relatives of parrots. Heritz that we know of from the fossil record come from the London Clay so of course we know that parents were here in the past as global climates cooled over are many millions of years. Parrots disappeared from this part of the world but the fact that they have recently been reintroduced and across Europe. There are a few different species like like monk parakeets and the rose ringed parakeets. We have in London and they've taken hold in many cities across Europe and of course these birds have been introduced by people. Many anthem have established populations from escaped pets but nonetheless they proven capable of living in this part of the world in the present day. And I think the suitability of this part the world for occupancy by species specialized for more tropical climes like parrots will probably only continue to become that way as the climate continues to warm a final thought for someone in your trade. Were you excited by the recent discovery of the gigantic parrot in New Zealand. flightless one. That's You know of course how could I not be. I think it was an amazing discovery. And of course the known fossil material from that fantastic fossil parrot herrick cleese is still somewhat limited. But it's my hope that paleontologists working at that incredible fossil locality in New Zealand. Continue to find new fossil material to really give us a better understanding of what that parrot looked like when it was alive and enthusiastic. Avian Researcher Dr.