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NFL Week 4

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NFL Week 4

"Thank you baby into the game you kind of your money that's how you find out who is bad for my pets were safe that wouldn't be any juice point spreads the prophets the teasers the parlays from vegas to you these these behind the bat let's welcome in to another behind the best podcasts a little later in the thursday afternoon september twenty six hopefully have time to download it ahead of tonight's game mm-hmm we have mike clay coming up at the end of the show he's got a few prop bets on this game so for thursday night football eagles visiting the packers can philly really start art one in three certainly looks that way but the spread is for mr executive director has a play on tonight's game as well so get listened to that travis abbas how are you my friend you ready for an NFL pod i'm doing wonderful i'm ready i'm actually excited about this thursday night i'm hoping the packers can go ahead and cover this one why get some action here why i like the packers but i'm also a cowboy fan oh well so anytime the eagles lose the went for me but also i think the packers with all the entries at the eagles are dealing with this this spot for them it certainly the public the public play you would think on this and we'll see all right let's let's let's get to it with mr director first and then mike clay next it started as a ticket writer will the handle has gotten a lot higher here in the last hours now he's a racing sports book director i have is is it work you're calling me mr director and not looking directly into my eyes where people brought in a whole new staff this year it's kind of a seinfeld esque move where we just rotate the guy i assume material doesn't get stale one happened in between a hot tub and ESPN kicking is for losers mr executive director what is going on there are people who just chime at me just they're getting his irate about this kicking situation situation and i'm sure you're feeling it on twitter as well i think we're educating the next generation doug like that that's sort of be our legacy is showing going the young people how stupid kicking short field goals and putting on the other side of the teams the other side of the fifty i should say is we're educating the next generation national football fans i have a confession to make i made a prop bet on field goals and under will no i was actually betting over over total field goals because of what's going on with with our boy with our boy cliff kingsbury and it's very loves him some and field goal yeah so i went over three and a half and the arizona carolina game and i only got three that's because carolina zona couldn't get a stop until the very very end they had five touchdowns and then finally kicked a field goal so every shaving up i was just hoping arizona would get inside the ten play for the field goal and you get an extra one so i played over three hundred lost your handicapped made sense 'cause i know kingsbury can't wait to send in the team he loves even when he's inside the five yard line i see this guy kicking field goals i don't know what he's doing i look for what i actually looked for was the the under on the shortest field goal made and i couldn't find one on on that game i think that's a super bowl thing so yeah that's more of a super bowl properly i think the stanford game you have to set that number at eighteen and a half in case y'all i wanted to kick one from the one yard yeah that was another one i was a second half under i missed two it's kind of kicking myself place from last weekend but how do we do a lot going on there's a lot going oh not a great week for the book you know the certainly the rams game was not good for us all the parlays that were we're live from the weekend went to the rams on sunday night football really questionable play calling from cleveland the second to last drive they ran that draw play play on fourth and nine i don't know what that was and then on the last drive it was like a reenactment of that forty niners possession the super bowl against baltimore where they got all the way down to the four yard headline and then they just threw like four low percentage passing plays instead of trying to run the football with three time out yeah yeah that's a great point by you with timeouts you've got nick chubb one of the best young backs in the league even try to run the ball i really thought the play calling cleveland at the end of that game left a lot to be desired i was big on ons cleveland coming in the season i thought they make the playoffs at minus twenty was a strong play little worry now little worried but i think they're alive dog actually in baltimore hair well all so you really have going for you if you do have a cleveland future bet would be the status of the pittsburgh steelers one of their divisional rivals pittsburgh was a team i thought it'd be pretty good this year obviously no no way of knowing that ben roethlisberger would get hurt and week tune be out for the year but that obviously opens the door for the browns to be neck and neck with baltimore for the AFC north title title i agree in baltimore is obviously better than people realize but they've also had a pretty easy schedule to start a little bit of reality check at arrowhead last weekend okay we got a few interesting how did you guys do on the patriots you needed the dog in that game right yeah that was good that they came back they covered crazy really really a crazy cover for the jets have you have i thought the two big favorites in the morning the patriots and the cowboys we need both the dogs as you can imagine and i actually thought thought that the one that shouldn't have covered did the new york jets and the one that i thought probably should've covered the miami dolphins did not agree though just just another crazy week in the NFL or seemingly all the games come right down to the last few minutes in terms of the point spread outcomes yeah i was on the team total under for the jets and i'm sorry that's just criminal terminal it really is because when you're talking you're facing the patriots you can't count on that now other teams pulling court but the patriots are so buttoned up you can't give me the well that's why you can't lay those big numbers in the NFL i don't think that applies to new england and human civil i think a lot of people it's like i always yeah i think humans did on the college pot or whatever but look they couldn't get i down i was like in my right upper ESPN dot com chuck section was let's not over think it the patriots defense against the third string quarterback quarterback and they're just it's just as a this is an over mismatch yeah i'm very curious to see new england buffalo game this week i think we're gonna learn a lot about buffalo hello buffalo's defensive really good this season josh allen is making progress can we say that he's not her certainly not a a top level l. quarterback in the NFL but he's very young i think he's only twenty three years old i like the size like the mobility i see progress from alan and i think we'll learn a lot about where the bill stand after after we watched him play new england new england team hasn't given up a touchdown in four games going back to the super bowl defensively right so we're gonna learn a lot about the bills this week buffalo really they have an opportunity to get into the AFC wild card race right now because of some other teams like pittsburgh dealing with quarterback injuries could potentially open open the door for the bills get back to the postseason right after the draft last year i did five prop bets i like for the upcoming season and all looked pretty good was saints to miss the playoffs another was schuyler murray's over passing yards and the the line moved like three hundred four hundred yards and other ones buffalo five to one to make the playoffs i thought they were at a shot given the schedule and just the growth of that defense and then obviously josh allen i like the bills in the spot new england's really banged up on the line and running back no no james james devlin here hurts their running game i should say and as much as they've been great they haven't played a whole lot so i i like i think buffalo's off lows i'm not gonna say quite a live dog but i really like them to cover here the seven seven flat now you can only play your schedule and you know buffalo they play play the teams on their schedule or three and i think they're very well coached and it sorta reminds me of that team they had two years ago the made the playoffs that team largely made made it to the postseason because some other teams in the AFC dealing with quarterback injuries shawn watson missed a big chunk of that season andrew luck mr big maybe that whole season and it kind of open the door and then of course the miracle play by the bengals over baltimore to get them that last spot so sometimes you just need to be in the right place at the right time and and this could be that kind of situation nation for buffalo you've got miami tanking even though they won't admit it the jets are a mess because their quarterback's hurt and several other guys are hurt and that those kind of factors that they can't control could propel them into the postseason should be interesting and i kind of agree with you this week i just i don't know that i would want to get in front of the patriots right now like like we're going to need buffalo huge at the book i can tell you that much more and you got a seven to one tic account on the patriots and that's not gonna stop as we get closer to sunday new england is going to be involved in every parlaying leeann every teaser on a board here oh for sure and i and i'm with you and i will say this about new england you know you want to criticize their schedule and also dallas which according to FBI is the easiest schedule so far they've been crushing their opponents now i know the cowboys kinda trailed seven nothing the first two games but all in all they've had dominant performances and and that's not what we saw at a seattle in the first two games right the seahawks squeak by cincy at home got by pittsburgh on the road without big ben like yeah they were kind of a defeated to tune out but it wasn't looking like it was new england and even dallas out of the gate so seriously how these teams perform because obviously the patriots and cowboys have much better opponents this week well there's different levels of three teams and i'm sure we're gonna wanna talk about the thursday night game green bay kind on a scape their first two games against chicago they they absolutely escape their second game against minnesota and then last week they were the beneficiaries of some really bad turnovers by denver winning that game so green bay's three too but they haven't looked nearly as impressive as dallas or new england and that's why you're seeing this line on thursday night only minus four four i just had one of the one of our tellers here come back to me and she said why is the line tonight only green bay minus forty eagles stink and i asked her what's everybody's everybody's betting on and she said the packers and i was like what does that tell you what which is four to one count on green bay this number has gone the other way from green bay minus five down in green bay modest four verse line movement that's a little telling too i mean you know it's hard to back philadelphia right now because they are dealing with a lot of guys hurt on both sides of the ball but i do think this green bay teams little bit overvalued right now i i they were lucky to cover denver in my opinion denver kind of gave that not the game away but they gave the cover over away with some bad turnovers they gave green bay some really short fields and we haven't really seen much from the green bay offense you have to season this could be a bloodbath of the books i'm not saying it's gonna be but if you're moving the line down your ticket count and you know i'll tell you this it's not really a high volume game i it certainly higher volume and then last week thursday night game which was a complete game unless you were rooting for the officials because they seem to be involved in every single player eighty stopped watching but you're rooting for the rest it was a great game but otherwise it was kind of a dud tonight's game more handle than that but not a really significant handle game the the big decisions are all look like they're all going to be on sunday because the monday night games also done oh you're not excited to see andy dalton and mason rudolph well somebody told me they thought the public was gonna it'd be all over the steelers and i was like i don't think so i mean i i really don't think the public is going to be rushing to bet on owen three team with a backup quarterback that most of them have never heard of i i just i just think it's going to be a low volume game i don't think there's going to be much betting interested in a game at all if that game was at ten AM local time on a sunday there'd be almost nothing on that game yeah fair point okay so what are you going to be a big decision games you're gonna need new england buffalo unique there i mean buffalo for sure detroit is is really setting up to be a huge one in the in the morning session sixteen to one i know you'll have to take account number sixteen to one on the kansas city chiefs here the chiefs minus six and a half it's kinda hard to bet against the chiefs right now patrick mahomes just looks like he's playing a different sport than everybody else i wouldn't wanna get in front so the chiefs here but the book is certainly gonna need detroit and a pretty big way on on sunday morning oh yeah so we did a little beat the market we try to predict the line move and and i was talk if you oddsmakers including ed salmon's over your shop the NFL i thought the cancer line would get seven avid he wasn't sure he wasn't sure and he thought new england would definitely get to minus seven minus twenty which it is i don't think it gets off seven because then you'll just have a bunch of buyback yeah it's hard to picture going through seven i would agree with but it's only thursday you're already seven twenty like he's going to have it a ridiculous take accounting knock it off seven well you got to win some of these games sometimes i mean you can't do some of these results have to go your way you're not gonna lose all of these games all year and you don't wanna go too far out of line and then take all this buffalo seven and a half mile from wise guys and then it's the week where you know you finally get one of those results to go your way and you don't win nearly as much as you should've so you're just trying to book doc each game correctly and you're confident that over the course of the season over the course of the year you'll get enough of the results to go your way so you don't see yourself coming off in the new england game i'd be shocked if we went to seven and a half there would have to be something significant like some sort of injury news or super sharp group came in and played related i mean if if a really sharp group came in and played new england might have seven minus one twenty i mean that'd be the next place to go eight but aside from that i i don't see it happening what's it gonna take fifty to one take account can never get that why but it's just we're not really too worried about the tic account the kind of people that are betting new england or the kind of people you want a book i mean that doesn't mean they always lose right i mean they win about fifty percent of the time to but you're a year okay taking bets from these types of players yeah it's funny i did my piece on the miami dolphins an jeff davis at caesar's said i'm not too worried because they all they play all the early the games even the public windsor just going to put it back through the vetting we know the other games i mean i agree with you for sure and jeff's a really sharp guy the only problem is that sometimes when that happens and they all put it back through the window on the sunday night game and the cheap road favourite covers the sunday night game and then it's now you do get it back the next week or the week after that so jeff is absolutely correct but that can lead to a pretty ugly one day number if you get a result you got from the rams on sunday night gotcha okay case you'll need both home dogs who are undefeated which is really interesting undefeated home teams that are catching six and a half or seven in detroit and also buffalo what else well the big one i'm for sure of the week we'll be dallas we'll new orleans sunday night game like we were just talking about if all these teams like new england kansas city indianapolis if baltimore i think the public will be on baltimore if all seattle in the afternoon for sure if all those teams rolled into the sunday night game dallas will be a huge liability for the books we'll need new orleans pretty big in that game that's interesting i mean the saints i realize we're not a public team like the cowboys but this isn't the jaguars either and i hope quarterback i know one at home will the public will be on the saints we did a couple of pretty really big bets on the saints but i got a little bit more than a three to one tic account on the cowboys here so i i know what you're saying i don't think you're wrong i don't think it's going to be as drastic as that rams browns game was but i do think we're going to be looking at a very one-sided liability in that game and i'm confident that the books all over the state will need need will need new orleans pretty big now that might be different if you look at the books in mississippi i'm sure they're gonna get ton of new orleans but here in nevada we'll be getting almost entirely dallas action and we'll need to say it's pretty big we'll learn a lot we will learn a lot about this dallas team this is a big spot yeah yeah for sure is there the NFC right yeah and you already said it they've played the easiest schedule in the NFL it's only been three weeks you know there's reason there's places you can poke holes in the cowboys i think but they've certainly been impressive so far right now we've got an his co. favorites in the NFC the los angeles louis rams and the cowboys are both plus three seventy five here at the west gate and yeah the rams no one wants to bet on the rams no one does yeah we we do awesome on the rams and the future book we did we did take some pretty big bets on them shortly before the season started but they're they're really one of our biggest winners in that pool the rams and the chiefs are two teams that we would win huge numbers on that surprising maybe the team maybe the the the the betting public will get back involved i think this is a total i think the hangover is going to kick in now i think this is where the bucks are good play yeah that's that's a play we have seen some sharp money trickling on tampa bay okay and they took ten we're down to nine and a half that wouldn't really wouldn't surprise me if it closed more like eight and a half or nine i think you're gonna see the sharper guys taking a bucks there in that spot rams offense really hasn't been very impressive so far this season i'm putting it nicely that's a lot of points for them to lay against tampa bay i think the first first half the line i think that's the play because the rams dispense soap future in the first half bucks plus six and a half year in the first half a it's hard to trust bruce arians after that field goal debacle at the end of the game sunday the giants covering covering for someone they really probably larry and seems like the kind of guy they would take the shot and cover for his guys what do you think of the redskins giants game i will tell you pick if you tell me who's gonna play quarterback for washington you think could potentially be colt mccoy for the redskins mccoy's playing gimme the skins yeah so this number was three before before the monday night game and i was a little surprised that it held up at three on the market after the redskins so bad on monday night football and it's even we've we've actually juiced the redskins plus three minus one twenty here i was at the south point this morning doing a show with mitch and paul howard i saw the two and a half at the south off point so half at south point because there's no there's no extra juice at south point yeah and a little surprising to me that the redskins as bad as they looked and all the hype hype surrounding danny dimes that the market is saying the redskins are still higher power rated than the new york giants now granted they obviously don't have saquon barkley this week he's their best player i understand understand that but i'm still a little surprised that that line looks a little fishy and that might mean it's a fishy looking line i'd be careful plan the giants here just because that line is suspicious doug what would the line be with barclay i i i think he'd be worth you know you know how i feel about the position of running back but the market would respect it so i think the number would probably be more like three and a half or four but i just i'm not four let's call it three and a half i imagine you're gonna need the raiders yeah we will i mean you're right and then especially with how easily the vikings cover the raiders last week i i know the and the colts have been impressive you know and a lot of ways the colts should be three reno those adam viteri mrs in week one or the only thing preventing indianapolis from being undefeated right now jacoby percent has actually taken to frank ranks offense better than i i thought he would jacoby percents fan he he's looked very good for the cold so certainly the public will be on the colts pretty big here they're going to be in a lot of money line parlays and a lot of teasers you got the three worlds called four games at ten AM that are all around that touchdown range with the ravens the colts also the chiefs and the patriots we're gonna need one of those favors to get knocked out or we're gonna lose a ton of money on this week i've grown a lot mr director the old doug ugh would see that colts line and think stop hammer time but it is not it is a stay away for yours truly like the old doug i i know i know whereas whereas my cover but i like the vikings last week obviously that was in my bonanza but this is not not so fast i think this is a oakland back back-door covers this thing i i can't disagree with that i just i just like the old doug i thought he was fun disappoint my life i i was actually loved the saints i love i got involved in a lot more games than i thought and i just be honest i was i went to new york right after the show slept the entire way and just kind of forgot about i just want to get too aggressive i had a little little little groggy in the morning i just sort of kept my vikings play and let it go long season murray go along here what what played i give on this show i know i gave you one and one the status quo for you this season solid one part of the curve yeah the top of the bell curve there you're in india india india minus one half in denver plus seven what do you got for bears airs vikings we got the bears mind is to this can be a very popular game for teasers a lot of people are gonna tease the vikings up through seven in the spot right i it's a great spot for teasers with this low total of thirty eight so it makes a lot of sense and this looks like a game it's gonna be a really close division game probably decided did by a turnover i mean you could definitely talk about two quarterbacks you could see having a boneheaded turnover cost their team a game mitch trubisky and kirk cousins both at that bill and there are two very opportunistic defenses chicago i think at five force turnovers in their win over washington on monday night so i do see this game being a dog fight and one team forcing bad turnover leading to the victory says first-half under written all over it for me you know i couldn't do the show with brian yesterday i had to go to a i i had a casino PNL meeting at the same time show on so one of the one of our managers here derek wilkinson pinch hit for me so of course what was the joke the the john was ducking brent because he gave him a loser the week before so it was the past meetings a month in advance here but yeah i definitely i bore the brunt of it yesterday what was the pick derrick gave we gave saints plus two and a half to mr musburger against dallas and again it's suspicious number they're a little reverse line movement i also like philadelphia tonight as well that's pretty much all i see on the board this week maybe tampa bay you could talk me into but i don't see myself getting involved in any of these other NFL games we haven't talked about the miami dolphins that are actually you know what i'm glad you brought it up because because it's been one of the more interesting games this week is that charger miami game and i'll tell you why there's nothing on it people aren't even bidding the chargers i i don't think anybody wants to lay fifteen and a half points it's on the road with philip rivers and anthony lynn and they're certainly not going to bet the dolphins so i it looks to be as of this recording of this show are or lease bed game of the week well titans falcons looks like number one it looks like number two in terms of the least volume of any games we betting board i want no part of that's an early really time slot that chargers team they lose i mean if the charges are still the chargers they lose that game i don't think they are but i don't think that i i don't think it's possible i mean i just it's like i just think that the dolphins are too bad i don't think the chargers can really see the way they should have covered last week it's ridiculous that they did not know oh yeah the dolphins should've covered the dallas game for sure and i think it was a penalty on xavien howard that extended a dallas dry where they were just running out the clock and then they couldn't help but score touchdown for the dolphins have in lead this year yet they had the ball down ten six marching in for the score before halftime and then they fumbled inside the tent yeah i read an article gold bill barnwell wrote this morning about the dolphins and i thought it was interesting just like just obviously they're terrible you know that but he was he kind of was doing a deep dive live in a just how bad they are i think it was like they had the worst point differential for three games of any team since nineteen fifty yeah i wrote i wrote a piece last week and it was tied for the second most through two games football outsiders air chats shots excuse me does something where they they were the worst team in his database which i think went back to eighty six they were the worst team through two games also had something in there about like they've been down they've never made it out of the first half of the first quarter still tied in the game i mean that's how quickly the other teams are getting ahead of them couple of games we haven't discussed i actually like arizona catching five here at home to seattle i think they're alive dog yeah that'll be that'll be a spot in the afternoon the card in the afternoons pretty weak frankly i mean the vikings bears will be a good handle game i don't know that the other three will be jaguars broncos knocking to really move the needle too much seattle's seattle's team the public will be all over they love these these road favorite type plays and they're seattle's coming off a loss so they need to game quote unquote seattle though yeah i i think people will be all it's already over five and a half to one on seattle here so we'll be rooting for kingsbury and cuyler murray i hope he doesn't kick a field goal from inside the two yard line but it'd be nosy does and i have a feeling this jacksonville game i want to hear my get get off my lawn moment here sure if i'm on the jaguars maybe from the coaching staff do i want my quarterback in washington hanging out of college again instead of kind of like preparing for next week's game you were offended by the george that he wore shorts and i love garden inch it's un-american talking smack about him but i'm just saying if they're on a bi week fine but i you know it's not the best way to thursday came right i mean i know what he is a rookie and yeah there's some discipline issues already in jacksonville reich established that not exactly buttoned up organization let me ask you this what would it was brady would brady have been at the michigan game if they played on thursday night brady be like working out somewhere stretching or says sleeping twelve hours like hydrogen or something i don't i'm just saying biogenic love i love mitch you i don't want to upset the masses here i'm just saying it was a little strange to the point where i saw it was like l. jackson was on a bye next week and it wasn't like this was the championship game they'd UCLA at home now it ended up being an epic game but it was just strange opposite side of the country i'm just saying yeah that's fine jalen rans bother me at all but you know you're you're becoming an old man on his lawn so true i am in my forties what what do you why is the steam team here on denver i don't i mean i don't know that there's really there's nothing really to report in terms of beds we've seen here on this game it's moved a little bit you yet yet has but we're just us moving with the market i don't know what those players are seeing there i think flacco is the worst quarterback in the NFL it's not been it hasn't hasn't been forced into the lineup by injuries i i don't know that i can back denver again but i wouldn't get involved with jacksonville yet either i mean i know everybody's so excited about minhsiu but we we you still don't really know what he is yet and denver is pretty good defensively so well these supposed to be so i think this is a tricky okay spot for men show on the road here i guess i misspoke it hasn't really been steam it's been minus three minus twenty for most of the week there's in twenty twenty five out there but we really haven't had anything here on that game at all like it's a very very low volume afternoon like i said i don't i don't think it's going to be anywhere near what we saw last weekend my friend i think we've covered them all and i think it's about that time let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting doll serving most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls he has plenty of time to think if we could sadly he has no brain however when in most nesting doll here's the geico not only save people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years she thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco it was a no brainer in most nesting dolan lot in life time for baby van ingrown marinate bed all right sir i was rewarded by only going with one play last week that was the vikings never sweat minus nine got their need to do the math i'm very easy i thought it was very easy win the i know my raiders i know my raiders pretty well well and i would never take them like seven this week or six and a half in indy but i'm not betting against i think i think the vikings i knew the vikings would open up a can uh so you what you split your picks as i mentioned lost one hundred dollars yeah i just i need to lose one hundred dollars a week it'd be easier for me to donate one hundred bucks a week to to the charity of your choice instead of you have a baby on the way no okay so travis does not have a baby on the way kailash you're so we we we are going to have to arrange accordingly city knows about yeah correct we might we might have to come up with a different charity or something we gotta do something i like alcohol can use the mike towards that he likes tito's maybe tito sponge or murray the seasons long we can we can work you can get you get you working on that project okay yeah i don't know the alcohol that that's not as touching as what we did for no i meant you could do you can participate it'd be about your baby bankroll bonanza oh okay well hopefully not okay hi my friends so it's a light start for me here as well but i do envision getting involved on twitter plays and stuff like that so how do you have a play at all yeah i'm just i'll give you another two one of them is the is the musburger play that i told you about new orleans saints plus two and a half do that one for five hundred you always give you both of them or do you want to wedge yours and mine so i have a team total my friend do you have a monday night eight cm total for your both teams involved i can just figure out what it is if we haven't turned it on yet i it's not we don't have it on yet had it looks like but i can just tell you what it's going to be yes so to be cincinnati and pittsburgh who do you got your team totals there but the totals forty four just about all you have to do is look at the right but i'm gonna go what's that sometimes you guys at a hook in there yeah oh i gotta find the game you could've told me about this before we did the show that's all right well i gotta get to the game itself i have draftkings i nineteen and a half for such natty over minus thirty we we would use twenty four and twenty because right now the game is minus four and the totals forty four so if we had the team totals up right now it'd be bengals twenty and steelers twenty four i would like a nickel on the bengals over twenty points done i'm i'm fine with it yeah good i'm good with it and yeah like i said ah very low volume game i mean that that the monday night schedule even if if you look further down a few weeks in the future some pretty low energy monday night games i'm a company man but i can't say with a straight face at the dolphin steelers games when do command a lot of eyeballs i'm not saying that people shouldn't watch that's what we're here for i mean we're giving everybody reasons to watch some of these games like bengals steelers like like jacksonville denver in which new york what's your second play philadelphia i'll take philadelphia plus four tonight i think they're gonna get right tonight on the road at lambeau i know the books can be rooting for them it's not going to be a big decision but every little bit helps and we'd be happy to TD eagles win tonight on thursday night football the plus four for another nickel yeah ob- sorry for five fifty to win five hundred and hopefully the wraps decide to potentially stay out of this game at least for a few plays and let some of the players play the game that'd be a nice change of pace on thursday night football i want to do with money i wanted to parlay involving some money any lines and things like that we do it on twitter or do it now it's up to you do you have calculated i have the teams okay what's your first half total eighteen and a half right at soldier field yeah i think so that's gonna i got to tell me about this stuff so i know so i have the numbers ready i know but you know totals and first half totals yeah eighteen and a half okay so we're gonna do that we're going to do arizona plus five okay and the dallas cowboys moneyline we're opposite a game i guess we both could win their dallas cowboys so it's a three team parlay yeah what's your what's your money line on the cowboys i guess that's what the question i had it would be a cowboy exciting run phone forty okay so it's a i will do to fifty parlay and my calculator says bass thirteen eleven thirteen twelve i see two fifty as thirteen twelve all right sir we got excuse me the people were doing public in public we're doing man of the public man of the people doing parlays i'm with you gotta give you the heads up so i know where the numbers are gonna be on a board there if you're going to be all over the place i mean i know the side numbers i've taught my head i don't know team totals in first-half told us about looking okay fair enough so i had my i had him out to certain extent okay okay so those are those are two wagers i might get more involved with with the with the twitter but that's where we are now and i'll have a total and updated amount and everything like that although i have obviously podcast recorded in all the spreadsheet i just have an update moss week but my friend always good catching up and we will we'll do it again next week for both the college and the NFL podcast yeah maybe even touch a little baseball player especially in washington DC the the game 163 anywhere i don't know i don't really know is there i guess in the american league wild-card race right right it's possible but i'm certainly hoping the NFL wildcard game is in DC unfortunately for us the brewers win every day yet in their wares now today was a tough spot for the brewers the night after they clinched the playoffs they play morning game casteel going for the reds and they're running away with another victory so the brewers are just crushing it right now betting the reds again today or not again this is a bad spot for milwaukee we and they got it done again they're getting it done that's frustrating isn't it but congratulations to you does your dancing in the locker room was quite entertaining i was there i was there in may visiting my family and we went to a game where the nationals record win loss record was nineteen and thirty one and so they're playing the marlins so if somebody had told me then that they'd make it as a wildcard whether it was home or away i would've jumped out my chair to accept that offer well done well done sir all right my man thank you very much and we'll talk next week i'll talk to you buddy this has been baby 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there and and look you gave out four place for jags titans and you have four plays on monday between bengals and steelers without big advanced not not exactly appointment viewing but we got four we'll get to those momentarily let's start tonight obviously a much better game at least on paper is with the packers and the eagles philly pretty banged up what you've got us go both with the the packers here i'm gonna start with aaron rodgers under zero point five interceptions the juices kind of ugly mine is a dollar seventy five but this guy does not throw interceptions zero so far this season last year he became the first player in NFL history with over or four hundred pass attempts in fewer than four interceptions the guys just money in this department the eagles by the way with essentially the same defense honestly it's beat up right now without darby mills but the only attender sections last season and again it's pretty much the same personnel kind of a random number as well so it's not like it's a team that's really stand out in the secondary also the packers and throw it as much as usual thirty one pass attempts per game for rogers that's a career low for him and this could potentially be a positive game scripts so i think there's about a seventy percent chance he gets zero in the line here suggest sixty four percent so i'm in on this one of mine is one seventy five and that's yeah and that's factored into the sixty right so right okay what's the other one is mark orcas valdez gambling and i was surprised to see this three and a half receptions you might see it a four some other places but i still like it i think he's going to be over four in this game is as a full-time player eighty six percent of the past plays they've run so our he's been on the field for he's handling twenty five percent targets here which is just behind davante adams i mean they are featuring him in in this offense six plus targets every game is thirteen catches in three games and the eagles as mentioned beat up secondary they allow a ton of completions to pass sketchers ninth most in the league so far in fact doc eat receivers have already caught at least four passes against the eagles only three games and again envious like adams is a perimeter receiver which means he will say c sidney jones and we'll assume douglas all night long it's a great setup here yeah so nita marks on the show who does a nice job with our props and things like that as well said that MVS fits the mold of receivers that have succeeded already against philli this year like like ridley in atlanta and stuff like that would you further that point no question no question they have the eagles have been lit up the only the only put it this way they play three games so they face six starting perimeter corners receiver limiter receivers of course the only one one that hasn't had a good game is kenny and even he had eight targets i mean five out of the six had at least four catches four of them had at least five catches and that's of course the line here's three and a half again four some other places he is positioned well to blow by this one so the packers just struggling in this struggling again three-game sample size including the opener which a lot of times uh-huh that's rust but struggling in the second half compared to what they've done the first house well i think part of it's who they're playing right i mean how often do you see minnesota denver and chicago bad defensive games and that's part of the reason like davante adams like there's concerns that he's off to a slow start i mean he was shattered by chris harris xavier roads foods and play that that that bears defense was horrific secondary i mean really tough start to the season for sure and it should open up especially here against the eagles i mean i don't think this should be able to go sixty sixty minutes just lighting up the secondary and attacking like everybody else does because he will stop the run well too which is probably to their detriment because teams game plan attack their secondary and it works they continue for well well over a year now to get destroyed eagles on the verge of being one and three what do you make of plato all well i'm an eagles fan i'm asking it's it's it's tricky i was talking to field yates earlier on the fantasy podcast about this like you just don't the yugoslav at one and three almost as inspires you to pick them i like to the this team this team that's is this good go into one and three with carson wentz while it doesn't add up it's almost a reason to think that they're going to win this game i think logically i'm picking the packers twenty seven twenty four i still think they're the better team here arthur at home defense is playing aaron rodgers plenty of reasons to believe they're going to win but legal schedule going forward is one of the easiest in the league the cowboys meanwhile who are three three in right now have one of the hardest in the NFL so i still think there's hope for the eagles to turn it around even if they fall to one three but it's going to be an uphill climb for sure it's going to sunday night cowboys you just mentioned they've according to FBI played the easiest scheduled to this point there orleans obviously no drew brees what do you got for us here we talked about that on the daily wager in april when the schedule title came out of the cowboys we're gonna come out with such an easy scheduled dolphins giants redskins so no surprise there zeke elliott obviously missed a lot of the off season but he he comes in here with a ninety two point five line at minus a dollar ten and i think the under is a good bet i mean again he missed a lot of the season still came in running well right he's averaging five five point two five yards per carry about average after contact so he's been pretty effective though he's doing a little bit less as a pass catcher again he's taken advantage his in his attempts have been up facing an extremely light schedule as we mentioned but it's gonna get tougher including this week against the saints no running back for more than seventy five yards in a game against the saints last last season remember this line is ninety two point five that includes zeke he had twenty three carries when the when he played the saints seventy five yards in that game three point three yards per carry the saints are just terrific at slowing opposing running backs and this year they've been about the same todd gurley and chris carson both held below four yards per carry so i think he will fall short here and again he did that a lot i mean last season he fell short of ninety three yards and nine of seventeen games including five of eight on the road so he's no stranger to putting in lines below this i think this sets up for to be one of those games it'd be interesting to see what happens with the juice here just because it's such a public game public player public team but the smart money sounds like we'll be on the under let's go to monday night barn burner here we go got four picks forest arrest fire away buddy i couldn't believe it i was i was all over these three bengals on one steeler here so let's start with andy dalton over two hundred sixty two point finally passing ours over over on this one on the road against the steelers a couple of reasons for this the bengals very passerby in fact they've called pass on seventy three percent of their offense plays this season as third highest biased in the NFL member do coaching staff they're not afraid to throw the ball obviously dalton as a result nine hundred seventy eight yards and three games three hundred twenty six per game so far art that includes four eighteen in seattle and three three hundred and eleven against san francisco who's playing pretty good defensively two hundred and forty nine yards at buffalo last week in that comeback effort they they most i pulled off that's tough thing to do i mean he's maybe we're over underrating him right now with the different coach like you said yeah i mean he's he's delivering a lot of production in the passing game now secondly pass attempts and passing yards out facing the steelers dave seventy-six completion so far that's six and nine hundred and eighteen yards through the air that third most i want to the fifth highest per attempt fourth highest completion percentage you wouldn't think is an overplay okay yeah in fact actually all three quarterbacks that have faced the steelers have gone over two hundred seventy seven yards this season which is well above this line so is a mature ninety-seven somewhere way about this next one next one is joe joe mixon at running back if i have the over and on i'm gonna go under on joe mixon running the ball enough the line here is sixty seven point five which is surprising because he comes into this game amethi eight yards rushing this season i mean the line is almost that's that's his total in three games i know he missed a part of week one with the injury but the efficiency here has not been great running backs so far have totaled forty eight carries in cincinnati does eighth fewest in the league and the only one hundred and twenty yards at his second fewest mixing again if you look at the past two games when he has been healthy he's only out snapped geo bernard sixty nine to forty nine and he has only twenty six carries during those two games of volume is just not there and the steelers are struggling against run yes but they face the run heavy steelers and the run heavy forty niners and that is really added up because if you look at yards per carry it's been around league average so oh i missed fifty one yards on twelve carries wabel of this one okay so under in rushing overindulgence of tyler boyd and up next thing i know where you're going seventy three and a half receiving yards and and why why specifically boyd all the receivers mike helton that's why y- you know maybe i shouldn't hammer him too much he's been heavily targeted this year thirty three percent of discovered snaps the steelers corner of course but it's just like it's a steelers problem they are not good at stopping slot receivers it's an ongoing issue boyd boyd of course primarily lines up inside for the bengals and just i mean think about these numbers here the steelers survive the six most receiving yards two receivers season that includes five hundred and thirty yards arts players lined up in the slot five hundred thirty yards in three games the players have been the site that's eighty eight more yards than any other team in the NFL and weirdly enough i mean not weirdly coincidentally is at emily nocco incidentally it worse last year too i mean it's just an area where for a long time they have really struggled so think about philip door set ninety five yards most of them came in the slot julian edelman eighty-three against bengal against the steelers tyler lockett josh gordon all of these receivers reached seventy three yards against the steelers this season they they're just not good at defending that spot and buoyed by the way without AJ green eleven targets and eighty three yards per game so far he's been good he's getting a lot of volume steelers can't it's up to slot it sets up perfectly worn sharp does a lot of video stuff on twitter and things like that he said that tomlin's defense just they put linebackers on slot receivers and stuff up and that's what makes no sense and why they've been obliterated in some matchups yeah it's going to be interesting because they just traded for minka fitzpatrick you wonder if they're aware of that and they're going to try to use somebody versatile like like him to help out in that department of course he's just getting familiar with that steelers defense so we'll see i don't think that's going to happen this week but he was the swiss army knife for alabama he played a little safety little linebacker now you can get away with that in college because your size that doesn't always happen although the chargers did that against the ravens last year with their safety who german james lowes i forget they have all kinds of personal guys perfect defense with dr phillips and i mean desma king keble safety i mean that was that matchup was perfect for the versatility the awesome charging them cincinnati team totals is the play twenty to twenty if i'm pretty sure i'm over that yeah i'm pretty sure all right and finally have a steelers prop for us do smith schuster eighty and a half receiving yards yeah i i liked the under on this one juju smith schuster receiving yards total so far our friend seventy eight eighty four eighty one very consistent very close to this line of of eighty point five but here's the thing sixty percent of his yardage so far have come come on three plays so it's just about to say he's got the big play in his arsenal yeah yeah but is that something that's sustainable is it something you want to bet on especially with mason rudolph now kind of struggling so far right he's very conservative under seven yards per in terms of average the average up to throw completing fifty six percent of his passes six point two yards per attempt it hasn't been good and in his first start last week against san francisco disco smith schuster at eighty one yards but against seventy six game on that long touchdown he was a dud entire game until he just happened to score that long touchdown so yeah occasionally he's gonna hit those who can you count on them do you want to rely on them when making bets like this i do not think so not to mentioned that they're playing the bengals team attempted only eighty one passes against them so far car and completed fifty four both of those are lowest in the NFL teams are not throwing against the bengals in fact only thirty receptions by wide receivers to against against the bengals so far third fewest in the league so i'm closer to sixty seven yards on this when doug i think you fall short that's such a sweat when you have these props like that like there was some last week and with completion i think it was pass attempts for matt ryan is thirty nine and a half i like taking under those when thirty two yellow buffer but some of these receiver props special monday night which is a total it'll sweat yeah i was that was the case last week on and that titans jags game because i think what four all four of them were receivers that we were talking about so we you know we hit on one out of three the other super close and then the game giveaway like monday night the redskins are throwing basically the entire second-half it yeah it can be all right man it's always good having you on here appreciate gate it and enjoy the weekend we're gonna get back on track this we do it baby needs a new pair of shoes come on all right thanks to mike at four plays on monday and then obviously he plays tonight as well and on sunday so thanks to my clay thanks to mr director that was fun that was travis and we also learned you do not have any children or children on the way no i do not all right but how does mike clay if all your pixar monday night you can't freak out with your games on sunday and you know make some outrageous plays them money to try catch up well it's funny you mention that back in the old days monday night would be the end of the week like the close of the week now sunday night is sort sort of the bailout game and you can start the week out strong on those monday props but it used to be the monday monday night football used to be the chase game so so he's still do that he could start the week off bad bad is what you're telling me right but this week as we started out strong he had a couple of plays stone daily wager wanna know here you know or you just or you just ah regular mounts and don't have huge starts or huge ends to the week things like that that's not exciting i know i know i know but that's what parlays are for and things like that i man and you got a good feel games you love this weekend i like the sea hawks oh you're against me then yes i the i don't trust them yet they need to show me me something legitimate and then mayor with the cowboys the end you like the cowboys i'm there too as well i gotta come around i'm a little nervous about the venue and the patriots so you do like the patriots i just i listen i am team josh allen okay but i'm not aw going to bet against the patriots yeah it's tough to bet against them which i did not do in the bonanza but i think the game is going to be pretty close man i really think the patriots are thin but they're awesome awesome undies i liked the under in that game i might come that was one of the games i might come heavy on twitter with the under in that game so that's what i got all right sir good talking to you here and seeing you with here and one note don't forget we do some you have see talk here but obviously there's a ton over at the aerial hawaii's anime show so go check 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Chargers LAtely Episode 17: Panthers @ Chargers preview

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Chargers LAtely Episode 17: Panthers @ Chargers preview

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant, it's conversational. Ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit IBM. Dot Com Slash Watson Assistant. Welcome back to another episode of charges. Lately I'm host Michael Peterson and today giving you guys a more. I. Guess I would call it abbreviated episode more casual episode. I'm actually not in my normal setup I am. A funny. Enough. Stuck at my in-laws place this weekend am. As much as I wanted or maybe should have recorded this before I had left this morning I honestly like putting this off a little bit because I want as much news to discuss on the episode as possible and and we did get a bit of news earlier today again, this being Saturday With roster transactions some surprise moves involving putting some guys on. I. R I we'll get to that later. But the chargers play the panthers this week, the panthers come into town, and thankfully one guy who's not going to be suiting up for the panthers. This week is Christian McCaffrey. I think that is just a huge load off the minds of shoulders, the everything of this defense and Defense Coordinator Gus Bradley. Obviously. Because why would you want to ever have the job to defend the reigning offensive player of the year in the NFL? Chris. McCaffrey is hell on earth is a Helfer Defenseman I've seen the Guy Places College. A former is Hawkeye I washed him torch the Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl. I WANNA back in two thousand. Fifteen or sixteen I believe it was They played each other and it was just absolutely brutal. So I don't necessarily have any fun positive feelings about Christmas. Kavulich as a player not as a person phenomenal person I actually went to college with some of his old high school teammates as well. It a Drake University I've played with a couple of offense linemen in his one of his quarterbacks so. Somewhat of like a weird kind of connection there. But whatever the chargers defense don't have to prepare for him and I think that's absolutely a brilliant but before we get to. Too. Much further into the game preview is want quickly go over the panthers and chargers injury report. So as of Friday, this is what we got from charges PR while I'm yeah. Also the I guess they they did you know announced to the public but. As things stand the charges will be without Ud as more below linebacker. He is out Justin. Jones is out tyrod Taylor is out. And at the time, we got this on Friday Melvin Ingram was doubtful Justin. Jackson was doubtful nick vigil was doubtful and then Brandon Laga Ray. Sean Jenkins, Entry Turner were all questionable as a right now it looks like trae turner and Blue Laga. Our plane we'll see about. Racial. Jenkins. As far as a turner a again Anthony and said that, yes, Turner is going to play this week So we did get that straight from the horse's mouth with Turner as far as the log I'm assuming he's GonNa play. We haven't heard anything about him not playing or anything that that points to the direction that he may not. So offensive line is finally going to be as complete as it's going to be the season without obviously Mike Pouncey who was done for the season. With the HIP surgery. But I did mention Melvin. Ingram is doubtful He is actually out this week officially because the charges put him on IRA before we get into the news real quick over the Panthers Injury Report Guard Dennis Daily will be doubtful. Tied Clo- Tackle Russell Kung is questionable but he was a full participant on Fridays. The chargers will look like go up against their former left tackle. And then detect Cohen Short who is one of the best defensive tackles in the NFL he is doubtful he did not participate in practice whatsoever. So the charges get an even a softer defense than what this this unit already has been with the chargers. Receiving with the panthers pardon me on as far as the roster transactions. So made a blister of a bunch moves. With this announcement. So again, from the Horse's mouth charges communication, the charges are promoting. Ryan Grow Offensive Guard. They're promoting LINEBACKER MANTI Jefferson and defensive end Jesse Lemonier to the active roster. In the corresponding moves, they are placing blob Melvin Ingram, an Jones on the I are. Now, this is going to be the three week I are right with with the way, the NFL, the rules are set up for the I are in the season because it is such an odd season, we only have to wait three weeks. Nothing is season ending a ingram was. The, big surprise here because he didn't have any issues. He was a full participant in practice Wednesday and Thursday, and then Friday all of a sudden. He didn't participate because of apparent knee soreness according to Anthony Land what he told us on the call yesterday and maybe it's just the charges looking at the slate and saying you know saints all of a sudden look scary the Tampa Bay Bucks Always deluca scary and the panthers this week. So Honestly, I think they thought that this stretch of three games looks much more winnable. And Jenin woes who's been playing fantastically and I don't think they're really going to lose too much of the pressure on defense with Ingram out. With, Jerry Tillery, kind of kind of breaking out a little bit to the first two weeks. The loss adjusted Jones isn't that big of a deal? So I can understand why why they made these moves I'm not sure what's going on with below. He was just going to be a depth piece because of. Tranquil going down right. They just threw up linebacker well without him. Of course, they brought up Jefferson and then grey is another offense of Wyman. You could always have more depth had offense lineman on your team especially with this team and then Jesse Lemon near is being groomed to be depth at the Lille position. So of course he was brought up with Ingram going to Iraq And then lastly, with the new rules. Again, this NFL season on Game Day players coaches are allowed to bring up to more players from practice squad to suit up on Game Day. So for fifty fourth and fifty fifth player, the fifty four players going to be Jalil die I know. Go ahead and curse a little bit right now because, yes, that guy's back. Jalil dies back whatever finding Dandy know is not a starter anymore he's just deputies hopefully you know he's still able to play well, had a career high two interceptions last season who knows maybe he'll surprise us if he does get significant snaps and they're also promoting dairies Bradwell for the practice squad to be active on. Day, because it looks like Jesse Jackson, we'll be out another week. He is their third running back for the game he was up with the team against the chiefs only played. Believe four snaps on special teams did not see any carries on. So. That is going to be just by those are your most recent transaction notes with the chargers I know it seems a little scary knowing like seeing some starters going I are again, it's just three weeks more precautionary over anything else. So I just flat out wouldn't get too worried about it. This is a good time to show how deep the team is how good the backups are, what that depth looks like and and there's no better team and do it. Then against the panthers who have allowed sixty five points through two weeks. In offense haven't done a whole lot none of them have done a whole lot outside of Chris McCaffrey. looking at the stats, go ahead and start previewing this game. So the panthers are open to. Your charges are one and one. Teddy Bridgewater his first year as a starter for Carolina. After being the backup in. New. Orleans for a year or two he is currently fifty five of seventy, six passing six, hundred, thirty, six yards only one touchdown through two games and two interceptions. Their leading rusher was Christian. McCaffrey forty-one carries for one hundred and fifty six yards and four touchdowns. So obviously, there's all their offense and then wide receiver Robinson Robert. Lilla. Robbie. Anderson. His first year in Carolina fifteen catches two, hundred, twenty, three yards and one touchdown. With the chargers. Doesn't herbs, obviously your leading passer after one week of course, each quarterbacks when we had one game Justin, Herbert is twenty to thirty three passing had three hundred eleven yards against the chiefs one touchdown, one pick and one rushing touchdown with eighteen rushing yards austin lower. I think he is I want to say six in the NFL in rushing yards at this moment hasn't found the end zone yet but he's turned thirty five carries in two hundred seventy, seven yards. I. Think. He's yes. Six behind Josh Jacobs who is in fifth and then Hunter Henry is your leading receiver through two games. Eleven catches one, hundred, fifty, six yards he just in Herbert. Has created quite the connection with Hunter Henry. He's been real good at not only getting the ball like in the right spots, but giving him an opportunity to run after the catch, and that's something that Hunter Henry showed of lot against the chiefs he was able to break tackles 'cause hunters Herbert threw him the ball where you know he threw the ball away from defenders. You know he did a lot of those curl routes was little curls right there in the middle of a check down and Herbert through him open and or gave him the ability for rack yards and I think that's a big deal. Herbert was a big fan of. Thrown in the tight end at Oregon his leading receiver was Jacob Religion who ended up not getting drafted but he honestly, he probably should have. He was really good leading receiver for the Oregon ducks before he ended with with a season ending injury and I believe he was picked up as UDF with the Ravens, and I'm not sure if he was cut or if he's on a practice squad somewhere but anyway, Herbert loves tight end he told me when I asked him about the call yesterday about his connection with Henry noted that stemmed from him loving the tight end, which was Jacob really at Oregon. And he said that he loves the Titan because of what they can do for an offense right they can stretch the field they can block especially Hunter Henry at his size six five to fifty having such a large catch radius. That it just makes his job easier right and that's what a Titan should be besides you don't play different roles for an offense a tight end. Where I think they succeed the most and where they help other teams their team become successful. is to be checked down guy. A CONSISTENT presence. On third down. I think. Honestly those tuning, and again, you don't need all the yards. You don't need all the touchdowns. But when you're good those things third down. The check, down? Guy. Those come. Because of quarterbacks smart. Whether played a good offense or me good defense bad defense. They to go the ball, they make the right decision and and more often than not. The Deepak isn't going to be open. It's going to be something underneath and Bang there goes your tight end. So big fan of that connection there Hanif Offense Dak Prescott here want to spend Sunday afternoons with your favorite teams and players switch to direct TV GET NFL Sunday ticket included at no extra cost I'm talking every live out of market game every Sunday no matter where you live. So switch to direct TV to get the twenty twenty NFL Sunday ticket season included at no extra cost call one, eight, hundred DIRECTTV for market games only requires choice package or above minimum seventy four, ninety, nine a month before discounts prices higher in second year regional sorts via nine a month applies twenty four month agreement activation other feats, terms, and restrictions apply. Stick on the topic of defense. This panthers defense is the youngest defense. The NFL has fielded in ten years. They have so many young players rookies. Defense. Just looking at the defense here I wanNA pull up their. Their depth chart. But just off the top of my head, they've got Brian Burns. second-year player at Florida. State really good pass rusher. But somehow the same time. The panthers have yet to record a single sack and I think they've got one counted one quarterback hit to their name. So we were looking to the defense. Brian Burns Kwan short. There's a video plane on this. Page for some reason, and it's ruining everything for me. So, let's not do that again. he go. So sorry about that will probably the cut that out if I don't. Look at their desk drawer on defense. All Right Brian. Burns Kwan Short Derrick Brown in year gross mottos. So they're defensive line which believe they run a one-two-three to in a four three front. And, you've got second-year player veteran rookie rookie, Derrick. Brown was her first round pick out of Auburn big beefy three, hundred, forty pound defensive tackle. And then eater grows mottos as a rookie defense event from a Penn State with a second round pick. Potentially a first round pick should have been in with I mean talent. Wise. So as his defense probably GonNa look good in the future. I think. It really does have a good choice or a good chance of being one of those better teams Linebackers Shaq Thompson. Without Leuke keithly this is the first without leuke clean some time. That's huge. Bomber they up Jack Thompson he's fine your whitehead. Former Oakland Raider, fairly good at his job just a good run stopping linebacker Jeremy Chin. Jeremy Chin was a converted safety played safety at Southern Illinois University Athletic Freak. I believe he's like six two. He probably was about to twenty in college, but he's probably upwards of near to thirty plus now that he's actually transition to an outside linebacker in the NFL. You're cornerback. We're going to be Dante Jackson and Troy Pride Junior Tripod junior rookie Jeremy. Chin rookie grows mottos and Derek Brown rookie. So you've got four rookies. Starting on this Defense Dante Jackson I believe is a once a third year player. Strong safety just a births free safety trae Boston also known as the former charger. Boston. So you take this. Week. Very weak inexperienced. Not, a lot of name power on his defense anymore without Luke. Equally? Mario Addison is gone. A lot of those names that. Were on this team. The last couple of years they are now gone. and what does does is it provides a very. Very. WAS SORTA WANNA look. For ideal. Of Very, ideal. Match. Justin Herbert. It is his second start. In the NFL. his first start came obviously as a surprise against the Kansas City chiefs. And you know. that. Probably played to his. Advantage the chiefs didn't have any film on Him. Right? They were planning to stop tyrod Taylor. They got just an Herbert. He had a great day. Some people are saying that. With with a week of film, right like the the panthers have a game film to Tipper to scout issued me just Herbert. And some people said young with a this team's GonNa have the film. You know maybe don't expect. Justin Herbert to have a great day because of that. And I just don't think it's that ipso facto like. I mean the office was very enough. but at the same time, this defense is, what is this defense has led up sixty five points through the first two weeks. This defense has been soft against the run Josh. Jacobs scored three touchdowns in week one of the raiders. I, believe. The Tampa Bay buccaneers last week rougher for three scores. Leonard. Fournette. Had Two scores on one hundred and twelve hundred, twelve yards. Ronald Jones had another score. Like this defense is going to get rushed on. And Yeah I just have to agree because you look this defense of Front Brian Burns is not a run Saban defensive end that guy's an outside linebacker. Playing Defense True Defensive End. Derrick Brown and Co on shore or good Youtube Gross Mottos Isn't a run stopping defense event. He's a pass rusher. He's an edge rusher. He's not that complete yet. Jack Thompson find to hear Whitehead Fine Jeremy. Chen again former safety. While to see how he is. So, this game is probably going to be a healthy dose of. Of Exeter Josh Kelly I'm sorry for that pause. The allergies are killing me. But Real quick. My Keys to victory. For. Victory over the panthers and this is an article ideal Bolton blue So we're GONNA. Go over this real quick. And let me remind this is a casual. kind of spur of the moment podcast because things didn't work out this week but that's twenty twenty. So I do apologize for the the the casualness, the looseness of this podcast please don't. Crucify for me her crucify me for this I greatly appreciate it. So I'm heading rabble pot, just real quick with my thoughts on my three keys to a panthers and number one is just keep it simple with Justin. Herbert for another week. in the Chiefs Game The the coaching Steichen Anthony. Land they all said that. They kept it simple for her because obviously, it was a surprise start. They weren't going to have the full load at. The playbook they weren't GonNa, do that to the rookie so they didn't they kept it simple and and he made that offense. If that was simple. I would like to see the complicated version of his offense right Justin Herbert did an immaculate job. Running offense orchestrating that unit. He just agree and I think for another week. Again, this is the second straight week starting there's no need to expand the playbook ten times over. Because he's now the starter like officially right going into this week, you don't need to keep it simple. He's a smart guy when he can use more of that brainpower to better do the you know handful of things you know they they did last week I just I think that's better than trying to stretch right his attention. Is focused all that stuff so keep it simple for Herbert one more week. At least one more week. Maybe we can open up a little bit against the Tampa buccaneers. Number three defense needs to take advantage of the DMZ. The charges are super into they don't have to play CMC ride they don't have to play Chris McCaffrey uses a huge load again off the shoulders of the entire defense and RDC GUS Bradley. The Guy who will be taking his place is Mike Davis. He's a former Chicago bear in Seattle Seahawk He's not too shabby, but he's also knows EMC he at a reception in their last game with because they were playing from behind. I don't think they use him the same way as McCaffrey, but like I still expect the running back to have a role in this game. But Teddy Bridgewater is a dig and dunk quarterback with the occasional deep shot hence. Robbie. Anderson's two hundred plus yards through the first two weeks season he likes to dig dug and with the athleticism of these receivers Dj more Andersen Curtis Samuel they are the type of athletic speedy wideouts that Kanye underneath if you're not able to stay on top of them. So I think need to rattle him real quick Russell Michael Scofield both former chargers. Are Defensive Line knows these guys I'd like to think that gives them a little bit of an advantage. So. I'm looking forward to that matchup just get after him early stay on top of their speed. This isn't the chiefs, right? Yes. s three wide receivers, but they're not the chiefs and they're definitely not being thrown the ball by Patrick mahomes take advantage of what could be considered a little bit of a tune-up game prior to handling the saints in the Tampa Bay buccaneers. Finally. I just continue to run the ball. The chargers lead the NFL with eighty-three. carries. It's not by accident. Anthony. Lynn. Wants to run the ball and he wants to win with his running backs. He's been dying for duo like Ecuadoran Kelly, and through the two weeks, he's been able to use. He's like he's just going to utilize them until he can't anymore right. He's going to run them to the ground and the the game that you know what the Panthers, week defense right not. So great of an offense like the game scripts probably going to call for a healthy dose of the run. So that's why I think this is going to be another huge editor in Joshua Kelly game. Do I think you know they combined for forty again? I'd say that the regression to the mean says they won't but I really wouldn't put it past Anthony Lynn of repeating. What they did against the chiefs and maybe if he decides to run it enough, maybe we see a little bit dairies Bradwell. I think that'd be great to see that Ford F one fifty running around out there but you know. I don't know how big the chances. And that's GonNa do it from pod guys again really appreciate you sticking with me through a week where. Some things just kind of went differently. I couldn't get out of. COME UP TO THE IN LAWS AND I just kind of do what I do. I Really WanNa talk about the most recent news as well. So again, that is why I kind of wait on this one. 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Falato on Football: Week 7 Review, Giants TNF Meltdown

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Falato on Football: Week 7 Review, Giants TNF Meltdown

"Podcast listeners, we are amazing avenue, the espy nation New York mets site. I'm Chris McShane and every week Brian Salvator and I discussed the current state of the mets Amazing Avenue Audio. The show we try to look at the mets from a somewhat logical point of view and not get too deep into panic city. We also answer your emails give weekly music recommendations and try not to get too frustrated with the team. You can find the show on apple podcasts on stitcher. Wherever you get your podcasts and let's go mets. Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of the LAN football the week seven edition of this bad boy here, and it was yet again another wild week unfortunately, for US giants fans and the people who cover the New York giants the week a football started in the worst way with twenty to twenty one loss loss that was suffered in such a devastating. Fashion? Even for the New York giants I mean we've been through this before as fans specially throughout the history with the Eagles in particular the miracle at the meadowlands with Herm Edwards the other miracle at the meadowlands with Matt freaking dodge kicking it to Sean Jackson still in my head say kick it out of bounds kick it out of bounds kicked out about But now we have this meltdown. On Thursday night football a game were ESPN gave the giants and ninety six percent chance to win. Yet, the giants still found a way to lose this affair. Want to know when I knew. This game was shot for the giants. Did you like to know that the moment where I was like oh? No here we go. Not again that moment. was when Bj Hill sacked Carson Wentz, but it was negated by an illegal contact penalty against Ryan, Lewis? It's nuts crazy lease me flabbergasted to because of Lewis doesn't commit that foul. I. Honestly think the giants win that game. More embarrassed. So many little things had to happen to put the giants into the position where we're going to lose this football game. But at that moment I was like, oh no, not again. Don't do this. But of course, we all know what happened. Was Second Ten and he'll does an excellent job sacking Wednesday force a third and fifteen but instead, the eagles get a first down and it takes three days to drive down the field and score touchdown and yes, giants defense played seventy two snaps in this football game but the level of sloppy football is still really concerning to me undisciplined. Really. Louis committed to fouls towards the end of the game bradberry and Ryan had one. There was a too many men on the Field Penalty Madre Harper got some yellow laundry thrown at him during the two point conversion. Because he was acting immature early even though they didn't convert that two point conversion still don't want to see that Ballantyne lowered his helmet on that punt. Resulted in a fifteen yard penalty and when the giants lost the lead and they were on offense, we'll hernandez beaten side and gets called for holding. That's all happening. In the latter half of the fourth quarter. You cannot play that type of undisciplined football and expect to win games. In a very winnable division. And this teams just not getting done whatsoever. When, they need to understand football and bad teams find ways to lose, and that's what the giants are. There are bad football team. We should we talking about fifteen, play ninety, seven, your drive, the eight minutes of the clockwork Daniel Jones had to do miracle spins in the pocket to evade avoid. But instead we're talking about another loss we should be discussing pre-snap look that was confirmed by Jones on third and seven with the game on the line, and Jones was able to put a very nice ball with the shoulder of Evans Ingram to seal a divisional game on the road but instead or talking about another loss. We should be talking about how the giants just beat the Philadelphia Eagles and Dallas just lost to the football team, which means the giants are the number one seed in the NFC east but instead. We're. Talking. About another loss team has been competitive. But they're so frustrating and there's talent on the roster James bradberry Logan Ryan Bleak Martinez. Healthy Sterling. Shepherd. But there are just way too many players underperforming. We'll Hernandez Cameron Fleming Andrew Thomas all at key positions on the offensive line Thomas was the fourth overall pick and looks worse than a day three selection not only going to be in hyperbolic. The NFL caught onto vulnerability protecting the inside didn't take them long. But he can't fix it yet at least not consistently. He has to keep his inside leg planted. And keep his balance when handling counter moves inside counter-moves inside spins anything like that. It's been such a liability and you know what? Honestly there were few reps on the all twenty two where he seemed to do that. And it helped correct some of his force seem to kind of keep that inside leg planted. But there were others where he still failed completely failed. And if we're talking about players coming up small and big spots, we shall go no further mental look at number eighty, eight Evan Ingram men. had. A drop that led to an interception and a drop that cost the giants the game. Is Evident that New, York wants to get this player involved as much as possible. They just want to get the ball in his hands. He gets a few end around game design throws to him. He had that one flair route with all the playside wide receiver stock block into the side almost sort of like a screen. and. One thing he does do well is move in space when he has the ball in his hand. He made people miss he strong. But he's just not a great runner he can't catch well at all. He can't run block nor can you pass block seems like a nice guy but he's been a huge liability and comes up small in way too many spots. and. It's so frustrating. Really, have him on this giants team. 'cause you know the potential could be sky high, but he hasn't even come close to scratching the surface. And he's only hurt the team this season. which sucks to say. But any JAG tight end you put them into the spots that he's been in. He was able to get open like Evan Ingram did which? Automatically assume that. He makes these kinds of catches ingram doesn't he drops them I hope that the eleven drops that he had. In his rookie season was an anomaly, it doesn't seem to be. It doesn't. especially. With. Plays like the interception was that ball perfect no gain Jones anticipated a blitz they're. Called it was throwing Hot Evan I'm still needs to catch that he had a little bit Alga arms possibly on it to. Not Ideal and I thought Jones he left some plays on the field after watching the all twenty two nothing egregious. Most of them are rolling out and fleeing from pressure there's somebody opened just doesn't lock onto them. But he also had some very nice throws where he was throwing with anticipation into open areas, leading his receivers open things that you love to see from a second year quarterback and Jones may not be great. But he's far from the problem here in New York. You can certainly win with a quarterback like gained Jones. was also obvious how much this team Mr Erling shepherd a player who can. His routes precisely and on time. So was a very. Very, very disappointing loss though. And now, they have an extended week before playing Tom Brady. And the Tampa Bay buccaneers a Monday night football of. Old. quarterback who just threw for three, hundred, sixty, nine yards and four touchdowns while rushing for a touchdown the road in Las, Vegas? Not. To mention. That giants of line need to see Todd Bowles Defense J. BP gets to come back to metlife. I'm not excited about any of those things. But. That's week eight though let's get into the rest of week set. Alright? Falcons guys, Ladies and gentlemen the Falcons Falcons again in the most Falcon. Way. Possible The most Falcon way against the most Falcon team we're going to be honest in the lions who were the falcons before, and during the Falcons for those of you who aren't following the Falcons are known for blowing leads and losing in the most creative ways they make being a giants fan seemed tolerable in this losing environment. That's how difficult it is being in Atlanta Falcons fan an alliance last season. They blew so many leads that concludes games out sort of like the giants, but they were kind of like a Falcon team but now the falcons. Just, blew another lead in a very, very embarrassing Fashion Falcons lose twenty, two, twenty, three at home when all they had to do. was Go down at the one yard line Todd Gurley instead of falling into the end zone. And then Khokar kick the field goal. To win the football game but instead. Todd Gurley runs into the end zone. Given the Detroit Lions and opportunity to drive down the field. And Win the game. Giants, fans remember this with the Ma Bradshaw on the super bowl. He didn't WANNA go any ended up going in giving Tom Brady and opportunity to drive down the field luckily for Australians fans that did not happen. But Todd Gurley got the ball. Broke a tackle, look like he wanted to go down to the one yard line, but the ball crossed the plane just crashed the plane no other way to say. So then Atlanta goes up twenty two, sixteen giving Matt Stafford the ball with about a minute and four seconds left Matt Stafford took them eight plays seventy five yards to find TJ Hawkins in in the end zone for a touchdown. And Matt Prater kicked the extra point wins the game absolutely devastating loss for the Falcons who are one in six three terrible blown leads. Who makes me feel good about being a giant fan may even make jet fans feel good about being a jet fan that's saying a lot. Matt Stafford in this Game Him and Matt Ryan or Buddies. He threw for three forty what the Todi Matt Ryan Three, Thirty, eight with Tutsi. Curly had twenty three carries sixty three yards on the ground two touchdowns. One being that one. And Julio Jones Eight for ninety seven Calvin, really by sixty nine in one. Russell gauge six for fifty four. As for Detroit. Kenny Golladay with six for one fourteen. Marvin. Jones was far for eight. And TJ hauge was five per fifty nine with a touchdown. Some big catches from Tj, Hodkinson Danny Amendola and the one really big catch from Kenny. Golladay that. Atlanta thought was incomplete on that final dry but oof, that is a terrible way to meltdown right there. You do not want to see that. Not at all. But onto the next game, which is the New York jets who? Were rather competitive against the buffalo bills. The bills were able to win this game by kicking a bunch of field goals. They won eighteen to ten in this affair but. Tyler Bass, their kicker missed two field goals as well Josh Allen, and the offense we're just inefficient. They couldn't get anything going in the red zone. He throws for over three hundred and seven yards rushed for sixty one had no touchdowns on the day. Sam, Darnold had two picks went twelve for twenty, three, four, hundred, twenty yards, frank, Gore Michael P Ryan seemed like they had some success on the ground, Gore average five and a half yards a carry, which is incredible. Eleven carries for sixty yards. He was kind of busting off against the buffalo bills got to see Denzel mims out on the field he was four for forty two. The just aren't good football team they drop the Owen seven buffalo goes to five in two. There were competitive in this game going into half. The jets seemed like they had their ducks in a row. They were able to score initially at halftime they were up ten to nine on Buffalo. Actually it was ten to six. And then after buffalo nine, play nineteen, yard drive yes. You heard that correctly nine nineteen yard drive. After kickoff return by Andre Roberts. Buffalo was able to get one of their many field goals. One of their six converted feels eight attempts. Incredible. Bills get the W., and then we have the Cincinnati bengals taking on the Cleveland Browns in a very, very entertaining game where they were just so many lead changes with Joe Borough and Baker Mayfield going back and forth, which is one thing that's very unfortunate. Bershad paramount I should mention suffered an injury in the game against the jets was really really big hit by Michael Hide along the. Sidelines and it. Seems like it's going to be a head injury ferber shot pyramid. But another big injury is Odell Beckham Junior who left his game in the first quarter seemed like he had some sort of serious knee injury. MRI's will take place tomorrow we're hoping that it's nothing serious for Odell Beckham Junior. But it did not look good for the player. And was able to get this win. But that is a devastating loss for the Cleveland Browns Baker Mayfield in this game threw for five touchdowns though had an interception two, hundred, Ninety, seven yards passing twenty two of twenty eight very good stats Joe Borough just as impressive thirty, five or forty, seven for four, hundred, six yards, three touchdowns and an interception. And it was just back and forth one of the most entertaining games of the slate Joe Bro was able to find t higgins tyler boyd who had one heck of a game. Giovanni but for touchdowns as for Baker Mayfield Harrison Bryant rookie tied at two touchdowns down on the People's Jones rookie wide receiver at Michigan Touchdown Kareem Hunt and David and jokue bolt had touchdowns as well. And it was just change their lead change at the lead change. You gotta give. Joe Borough a lot of credit. If there was more time in this game at imagine that Cincinnati bengals would be able to move the football against this Cleveland browns defense and score to win this football game. But the second half was literally just littered with points there was appoint wasn't a turnover. The browns scored a touchdown that the bengals kick fueled in the Browns scored a touchdown. The bengals scored a touchdown. The browns scored a touchdown in the bengals go to down the BROWNS, go to touchdown, and then it was the end of the game. So it was rather incredible to be honest between these two teams going back and forth. And again, we hope Odell Beckham Junior is going to be okay and there are some other injuries I'll guess I'll just go into them right now, Landon Collins and other former giant of the Washington football team seem to have suffered a season ending. Achilles injury, which is obviously Terrible, we send our best wishes to him. Hopefully, it's not that serious, but it doesn't look good as of right now Montana's sweat same. Team The Washington football team that is he was being evaluated for a concussion as was some of the other players like Andy Dalton who got his head taken off by John Bostick, which was terrible hit which brought Benvenuti on drafted kid out of. J M you James. Madison University. School he had to play a significant snaps for the cowboys. 'cause Andy Dalton got knocked out of the game by Jon Bostick Deontay Johnson seemed to have suffered a lower leg injury doesn't seem to be serious plans on playing. Should Avian. Clowney Anchorage and Fulton cornerback Christian Fulton County Edge rusher both Tennessee titans. Left their games with knee injuries. We don't know the severity of that quite yet. So. Every week, there's a lot of these kind of injuries that end up happening. Can you Harry had a head injury in this game as well? Filled Lindsey suffered a concussion and their game, the chiefs. So we're hoping that these guys are going to be Okay Jeff Wilson seem like he suffered a really bad ankle injury, Los Angeles chargers, tight end Virgil Green also after catching a touchdown from Justin, Herbert suffered an ankle injury. So those are some of the notable injuries around the National Football League today and we hope all those guys get back. 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The football was a good drive by Washington the entire game, really just handing the ball off to Antonio Gibson to Pete Barber to jd mckissick, and then using Terry McLaren's excellent skillset hit deep attack the intermediate use them in screens maclaurin finish the game with seven catches for ninety yards and a touchdown Cam Washington just bullied Dallas dowse was on a short week they played on Monday night football. And watched, him was able to get three, hundred, ninety, seven yards of offense on them while holding Dallas to one, hundred and forty two. It was a beatdown Zeke Elliott, only forty five yards on the ground at twelve carries in this game like I said Andy. Dalton. Was Not doubt. Bentiu. NUCCI came in had one really nice pass. To Amari Cooper who finished his game seven of eighty seven target. So we call seven of his targets for these two quarterbacks. But. There was nothing from CD lamb there was nothing from Michael Gallup don't show to twenty two on four targets. This division is so wide open right now it's incredible. And it makes it even worse the giants Blue Games against Dallas and Philadelphia really if you think about it. But give Kudos to Washington Kyle. Alan do for two touchdowns had one hundred and ninety four yards through the air modest. Eleven yards on the Ground Antonio, at twenty carries in this game. Do Love to see that sure that jd mckissick at five PM Barbara had ten like I said before it was a heavy dose of running the football to defeat the Dallas cowboys and you can do that because. Mike Nolan and that defenses. Terrible. They just cannot figure it out. They're always. Out. Of. Position Paint lack gap integrity. There's whispers in the locker room about how upset? A lot of the players are. With this coaching staff things that you just do not want to hear things I'm glad that we're not hearing from the New York giants is a new coaching staff to with Mike McCarthy. And those players are not happy with the current state of the team. and. As a fan of the giants, I'm just not happy with the current state of the NFC east and the fact that the giants aren't on top. Let's move onto the panthers and the Saints New Orleans? Able to get a win against the Carolina Panthers. Teddy, bridgewater goes back to his former home throws for two hundred, fifty, four yards, two touchdowns, both to Dj more player who just seems to have the same number. Last season he had two great games against the saints. This year is four for ninety three on five targets with two touchdowns. Curtis Samuel had a touchdown on the ground voltron Mike. Davis. Don't like to see that you have Mark Davis. On your team. Sure. As for Alvin, Kamara on the flipside fourteen carries eighty three yards eight catches. Sixty five yards didn't get into the end zone but had those eight targets to breeze through for two, hundred, eighty, seven yards. Struck pater twice. Once with. Jared Cook One with the Ante Harris Smart Quiz Calloway was the lead target for the saints ten targets eight catches for seventy five yards without Michael Thomas there who may miss next week now after suffering another injury to his lower body. Definitely, not good for Michael Thomas Watt the see what happens there manual sanders also out in this game put on the Kobe. List. That's incredibly unfortunate. But Teddy Bridgewater. You gotta give it to him. He battled in this game against a good football team. But, the saints will just too good to overcome. A lot of scoring. second-half defenses kind of buckled down a little bit shut bolted. The offense is. Carolina. Falls to screen for the saints go up to foreign to. As they end the Tampa Bay buccaneers look to kind of dominate that division since they share it with the Atlanta Falcons a team that. Has Not had all going on by any stretch of the imagination on watch the Sunday night football game right now and Russell Wilson just through an interception that border Baker took all the way back to three R line but decay metcalf chased him down. That guy is a freak athlete. I just wanted to say that let's move onto the next game the Green Bay packers going to Houston and dominating. Houston thirty five to twenty this was just the run the offense through Davante Adams hyper show Adams at sixteen targets. In this game, Aaron Jones was ruled out of this game. So it was Jamal Williams show on the ground, but it was all about Davante Adams Houston had no response for him. Houston drops to one in six now, which is in treating because they don't have their first round pick. Their first round pick is with the Miami Dolphins. So you're Miami Dolphins. Fan, you're probably very, very happy at the fact that. You Own. Probably a top five pick that won't be because your team is A. Very very interesting. But davante Adams at thirteen catches for one hundred and ninety six yards and two touchdowns on those sixteen targets and other than that. Jamal Williams. At five targets, Robert Tanya had to targets. No one else really had that many targets mark valid. Scotland had his four targets with zero catches because that's what he does. He did have a carry those. We got two point nine points. In Fantasy Leagues that's amazing. But Aaron Rodgers men four touchdowns, two hundred and eighty three yards Shawn Watson three hundred and nine yards, two touchdowns in his game. But it was Green Bay came in here. They want embarrass last week by Tampa Bay and they were just going to beat up on worst team in the Houston Texans. David Johnson was able to secure touchdown reception as was will fuller garbage time and. This is just kind of what you expect. When a better team, a team that I feel like has its own struggles and isn't in the upper echelon teams in the Green Bay packers but a store much better football team than the Houston Texans goes to a place like the Texans. Now we've seen to Shawn Watson Cook a little bit. The last couple of weeks since Bill O'Brien has been fired and I'm sure he'll be able to cook the next two games. He has traveled to Jacksonville and he gets at the Browns to both those games you should have plenty of. Salt fantasy game in this game as well mainly through Randall COBB and Brennan. Cooks I expect will fuller to kind of have a bigger role. He didn't have that necessarily despite catching that touchdown in this game, but it was all green bay. All Green Bay from the start and Air Jones should be back next week if you're an Aaron Jones owner. In terms of fantasy football but plugged Jamal Williams into your lineup you were happy 'cause he had a really solid game and it's funny to you look at the splits of the stats. Houston had the ball more than Green Bay they just weren't nearly as efficient. So let's go onto the Jaguars against the chargers where Justin Herbert blew up. Three touchdowns added one on the ground as well before total three, hundred and forty seven yards passing just spreading the ball out to Josh Kelley to Justin Jackson to obviously Mike Williams and Keenan Allen who had his thirteen targets hunter Henry had seven Justin Jackson had six green had to with the touchdown where he got hurt on. And also had players like jailing Guyton having three targets to for eighty four and a touchdown. It's kind of been his role with this team. Doesn't Herbert seems like the real deal the charges were able to roll over Jacksonville but this was a pretty competitive game. Charges are two and four now Jaguars. One, six score was thirty nine to twenty nine. But this was a fairly competitive game. Up until. I. Guess You could say the third quarter when just in Herbert just Kinda. Flip the switch towards the end of the quarter rushed for a touchdown through for another one. And they added a field goal in the fourth quarter but. Jacksonville was able to Kinda. Keep their head above water for most the game and then they ended up floundering. There's something wrong with the passing attack there. You could tell Dj charge is just ripping his hair out playing with someone Gardner. You mean, she was missing players. He doesn't look that great. We might see a quarterback change if I'm GONNA be real. I think that could actually realistically happen. Had seven targets in this game called one for twenty six also dropped an easy one to. But he's getting targeted more than anybody and he's just not doing anything with it despite the fact that he's talented him and Gardner meant you not on the same page James Robinson now he's a player he's undrafted rookie who's just playing out of his mind James Robinson twenty two carries for a hundred nineteen yards and a touchdown also had six targets call four of them for eighteen and a touchdown. Menchu I'm not sure how much longer he's GonNa. Hold the starting job. Got Mike. Glennon back there they have another like undrafted kid that somewhat like might be the Mike Glennon show which would be gross disgusting but also funny at the same time. Permits you in this game fourteen, twenty, seven for one, hundred, seventy, three yards, and two totti's no picks misses throws and leave some plays on the field. Then, we have the forty niners and the Patriots. And Wow. All got to say is New England has not looked bad consecutive weeks for some time. This is the second worst beatdown I believe that bill has ever suffered at home as a New England Patriots head coach Cam Newton through for ninety eight yards threw three interceptions looked terrible. The receding options looked terrible Julian. Omen looks very, very dirty at three targets called thirteen just look old and beat up. They had to bring in Jarret Stidham in his game who threw a pick, which is like something tariffs. Them does whenever he comes into the Game New England needs the right this ship they don't have a lot of skill position players. Barely saw any james white I don't know if he got injured whose only out there. For one target at one catch for three yards. They were using a lot of birkhead in that area that we're using Damien Harrison in that area a little bit. But my this was. Eye Opening for New England who dropped the two and four San Francisco forty, four three after winning the last two games. But never when they lost to the eagles. Football. They got Garoppolo back here. He looked fine in the game. I guess you could say stats didn't really buried out missed if. You would I feel like could have been the touchdown but he was twenty twenty-five hyper efficient two, hundred, seventy, seven yards, zero touchdowns but then he had to picks to. Not Ideal Net deportment. San Francisco. Wins thirty three to six. Jeff Wilson had three touchdowns on Ground Kyle US check how to touch down on the ground. Jeff. Wilson end up getting hurt towards the end of this game and they put your Michael Hasty and he was also getting snaps barely used Jerick McKinnon which was. Probably felt like they didn't need him didn't WanNa put them in harm's way Jeff Wilson. Somebody, who ended up getting hurt because? Just. Running into the end zone. Really unfortunate. deebo Samuel was getting carries as well. He had three for seven. You also at five targets call for sixty five yards Brennan. Euch seven targets six catches for one fifteen towards kindle five or fifty five. As well. It was. beat down. By. The forty niners. And the New England patriots in this division where they have the bills just got to win against the jets even though the jets competitive start to wonder what's going on there after the Game Bill Belichick came out and he reassured that Cam Newton's team. Do you want to hear that? Obviously that's great to hear. But there's something wrong with his offense native to figure it out and I trust Josh mcdaniels will eventually figure it out. But if you own someone like Julian Edmund mean you can't start them and fantasy is drivable his point which is very unfortunate. because. You know we'll probably get eventually we had the buccaneers going to the raiders and absolutely blowing them out forty five to twenty buccaneers go to five and to the raiders are three and three, and again like I said before Tom Brady threw for three hundred, sixty, nine yards, four touchdowns and rushed for a touchdown. Under four net Ronald Jones split the work working Leonard Fournette looked a lot better than raw jones. Did he was eleven for Fifty Round Jones was thirteen for thirty four but Ralph Jones ended up getting a touchdown in this game. Brady was just offering this game. You know touchdown touchdown, touchdown Tyler Johnson got a touchdown. We don't know how many more of those he's GonNa score last week but now that the bringing in Antonio Brown. Who Won't play and we gave Tau Johnson's rule. It's going to diminish as that fourth receiver behind Chris Guy when Mike Evans Miller. Of course Godwin Scotty, Miller Robin Kelsey caught those other touchdowns. Scotty. Miller had nine targets on this game in game six for one of nine Mike Evans only at two targets. Both of them thirty seven yards to he was an integral part of the game plan for Bay buccaneers but they hung forty five on the raiders. Yes. The raiders aren't decorate their defense. Isn't something that you. Are Scared of especially not without Jonathan Abram. But they're. Still a team that was over five, hundred and. You went in to their house and you drop forty five on them and held on the twenty. The first half you held in the ten second half Yeldham Couldn't really get anything go in Las Vegas and funding to. Opening drive. For Derek Carr he found Nelson Al Gore the touchdown he thought it was going to spark this really high scoring affair for the raiders, the raiders. Only ended up one more touchdown after that. Not, exactly great as for the raiders receivers Nelson Aguilar nine targets down roller nine targets, Adler by for one zero, seven, one, six, fifty, and one, hundred, six, targets, four, forty, two. And henriques only caught two of his three targets thirty five yard spelling for thirty five yards. And Josh Jacobs only those ten carries seventeen yards on them. It's tough with that Tampa Bay defence. The giants are GonNa. Learn that real quick next week in week eight Monday night football where the entire world can watch it. That's frustrating. Josh Jacobs, these negative game scripts he just kinda falls off. If you look at his to really positive games of fantasy football, we're both positive game scripts gets Kansas City in week one at Carolina where he had three touchdowns. But when they start getting behind and if it's not competitive, you're going to see more devante booker. See more. Jalen Rashard. Players like. Men Jon Gruden really showed some some gumption though early on in this game, he showed a lot of confidence in his team went for it. Special teams. In. His own. Half the field. With a fake punt. To Jeff Heath. We're Jeff he ran for a yard and picked it up. And I was AOL okay. This is like the first maybe second quarter of the game. You like seeing that kind of aggression from a coach sometimes. But it wasn't enough for the Las Vegas Raiders. And they dropped to three and three. Then, we have the Kansas City chiefs last game. We'll go over because it's Sunday night football game is going on right now. Absolutely blowing out the DENVER broncos forty three to sixteen chiefs go to six and one. Denver to four. Two locked in a good in this game this game started off to lay the scene with snow. With, wind gross conditions now, twenty degrees. Lock finishes the game throwing the Ball Forty Times completed twenty four of them. Two hundred fifty, four yards, two touchdowns. Pat Mahomes didn't do all that much at one touchdown through the air. It could have two quite a bridge layer dropped one that touchdown was to tyreek. Hill. And Chat Him, he ended up coming in the fourth quarter, the cleanup. Actually had a rushing touchdown during that and I thought that was hilarious. But the Kansas City often ruined another do all that much because they had a kick return by Byron Pringle for touchdown and they had a pick six by Daniel Sorensen for touchdown. So the offense of the chiefs drilling another do all that much had average lehrer got his first touchdown since. Week one. which is saying something because he's had a touchdown called back. It seems like every week it hasn't been every week, but it's been multiple weeks. This. Game he had eight, forty six and that one touchdown with a twenty seven yard long and let me on bell at six, thirty nine. And that's where receiving. Bell did not have a catch De'andre Washington did from Chad. Henny clad words did have a catch in the also had what would have been touchdown catch him in the chest and he dropped it. Travis Kelsey modest game three for thirty one tyreek Hill actually ten targets something that he has not done. He's ever had more than six targets this season he at ten, six for fifty five. Hartman to targets call to both of fifty seven yards. We all know how Michael Hartmann is as a player. To break it off very very easily as four the Denver broncos. Fan Seven targets called three for thirty eight and you look at the Broncos they spread the ball around Alberto had seven Tim Patrick had four. No a fan had seven D. Sean Hamilton and three Caja Hamblur had three nickname had three. Jerry. Judy at four of a Gordon Ed Royce. Freeman to. ENTIRA. Cleveland at one. So they really spread the ball out. There were throwing most the game. That's why can city jumped up early In. This game they were up twenty, four, thousand, nine at halftime. And locked necessarily, look all that. Great. Imagine going to stabilize eventually. Schedule hopefully lighten up for him. And I think, I, believe in Pat Shurmur skillset I think Pat Shurmur will be able to. Settle him down, simplify the offense. Next week they get the host, the chargers, and then they're at the Falcons and then at the raiders and then I the dolphins and then I the saints and then at the chiefs game. So the next couple of games should be relatively easy. I guess you could say for drew lock and company, but this game just wasn't it. We'll see you fill blends. You can come back from his concussion woes. He just got back just got healthy Melvin Gordon with that Dui were not really a hundred percent sure when the NFL may come out and suspend him and he could get in trouble for. Getting a Dui something that could happen to already guys. 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October 26  Hour 2  Best Teams In the NFL Breakdown | More Broncos Therapy

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October 26 Hour 2 Best Teams In the NFL Breakdown | More Broncos Therapy

"Second foul on here. The whole show powered biped energy I'm brady whole joined by. One and only Colefax million back there on the other side of the bulletproof glass Susan and Cheryl handling the. Crowd duties. Big Cheer for Blue Monday. Blue Monday Colefax rough. Rough go today Sky's falling. But I will we had good news like in the real world, which is good. The snow. I I believe really put a dent in all those fires that was just devastating for so long and just see in pictures and hip around Grand Lake estes park the camera peak fire just it was awful. But I do think the the snow kind of hit at the right time and the right places. Crazy absolutely nuts. I took my kid out sledding. Yeah. Got Them. All decked. Dow Got Him in the you know the overalls and the coat, and he was like all ready to go stuff in his hands through the big coat ready to rock and roll and he wanted to go swing. We had swing in the backyard. So now instead I'm Dustin off the swing, it's freezing out there snows blowing all over us. My kids face just bright red he's having the time of his life because then we're finally at some point, we say we don't. We gotta go in gotTa go inside but I gotta try this lead a half try this lead Colfax at out. This kid's damn. dammit. This kid's GonNa like sledding. So I put him on the sled and he has his mittens on holding his hands up kind of like in Talladega nights and Ricky Bobby's holding his hands up like I I'm not sure to do my ends Gavin just holding his hands up he couldn't look more upset. He wasn't crying. He's fine whatever dad doing this for you bro, and pull him around the backyard. He has no emotion on his face. He was smiling singing everything on the swing here. This is weird. I why am I so close to the ground, there is snow flooding the sled I don't want to be here. So we did that for like three circles around our tiny little tree. And unloaded inside. It was a it was. We'll get there. We'll get there Colefax. But it was good. It was glad to see all the snow shoveling was was was a was I actually went outside this morning and I was shoveling I was happy because it's a good. We'd needed this. No, I love snow. But we really needed this and it was you know prayers were answered those I was awesome I really appreciate it. Eight minutes after the hour I text line three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six, fight dances I'm sorry Brady my time and small community service has pushed me towards the dim light of cynicism rather than hope. Thank you for at least painting an optimistic. Pitch Picture. It's nice to know there is still light within the darkness. There's always like my friend I still think that this team. I there's something good. We can take from yesterday I don't see I'm this is where we agree. I don't think that drew lock is going to do that a lot. Now I don't know that he has the effector. Sometimes to be a franchise quarterback, you don't have to have the factor. We've seen plenty of quarterback in this league play for a team five, six, seven years. Kind of be their franchise guy and then you kinda go do they really have that it factor like Matt Stafford. Matt. Ryan. Those guys have the it factor. I don't think so. They're good. But The it factor means you are superstar, your Patrick Mahomes, your Russell Wilson your drew brees Tom Brady your those guys. the I'd like Matt Ryan just because you're starting quarterback that puts up big numbers. Are, you constantly putting yourself in a position to win games are you and your team constant winning games and Falcon said that one beautiful year where they go and and maybe you can make a case more. So from Stafford's Great Stat Guy. But it factor no. So I don't know that drew lock has that. Kind of times I thought he has but. This season for sure I'm not there I. Know He's been out a lot. So it's a little unfair. But I will say that in that blowout. Everything went wrong for the broncos outside of the defensive performance. When you look at all these I mean everything that happened we have somebody comments. This defense was terrible. gave up forty three. Did you watch the game? Two of those touchdowns was a kick return for a touchdown. Awful. Kick. Return Coverage The pick six by drew lock but you had so many other things happen in this game. So the chiefs go down score touchdown right off the bat or the Broncos go three and now Chicote outscore touchdown. The broncos go out again and you're thinking. Oh boy and the chiefs are rolling right back down the field is going to be a long day or AJ Alexander. Johnson forces the fumble the broncos go down score a touchdown he's thinking. Well you know the dinosaurs just turn the tide here for Denver Brand McManus misses. The extra point never misses extra points I mean he was the hero of the day last week and then he misses the extra point. So fight herself down seventy six. So you at least in the game chiefs go down a field goal broncos fumble Melvin. Gordon. But the Denver. Defense. Hold up they force a punt then enter drew lock. In. Interception pick six. But, the broncos bounced back and drew lock had an okay drive. They worked their way down the field they got a field goal but then that's when the kick return touchdown happened. So. This defense was fighting every step of the way chiefs gets touched out broncos, Pont. He's Poe end of half and it's It's bad. It's twenty four to nine. But? You still feel like your one stop away and then you're one touchdown away for making this game. Well, what are they doing the at as we got into the second half they forced upon three and out. The broncos get it. That's the bad fumble. Gordon over the top. WHO. Then the chiefs answer with a field goal they had scored they had to get one yard. So there's another three points that the broncos defense really couldn't help. So seventeen right there. broncos turnover on downs sheepskin another field goal. I mean, this defense was fighting and pushing as hard as it could until finally, that last interception led to a fifty seven yard drive by the chiefs for a touchdown. That's that's when it was. Just the defense couldn't hold on anymore broncos go answer with a touchdown of their own. Made it three seven sixteen. But I. Don't feel like every games go that way. That was a weird game. Melvin Gordon on the pitch back to drew lock throws it over his head. What are the odds of that happening? Drew Lock throws the picnics. That was a bad throat bad. Throw kick return for touchdown on this day and age is so damn rare even with the bad kick return. Defense. A lot of bad things happen in this game Vic Fangio talked about the loss and you know just how disappointing it was and what's the next step it was disappointing. Obviously, we just didn't play well as a team to obviously the give us a chance to win the game there and you know the four turnovers kickoff return touchdown. You know you're not going to beat a team like Kansas City doing that and couple the other turnovers game good field position but our whole team just got beat today by them. They're really good and we weren't up to the challenge today. Now at first broncos defense, they were getting run all over the chiefs the first two possessions even though one of them ended in a fumble I still felt like the chiefs were having their way but the broncos defense settled down from that point after the fumble. It's kind of like that defense believed they could compete in this game. The. Problem was. You were running the ball well, but as soon as you call a play lock was going for the home run. And that ended more drives he was sacked too many times I mean especially when you know it didn't look like. Is Pocket presence just didn't didn't feel right didn't seem right for the most part I mean look at his third down efficiency for the chiefs Hofer Eight. That's phenomenal. The broncos were five fourteen. I mean that's that's crazy. This defense and I'm shocked by this because I thought the defense would be. I thought it would be a weakness and that the offense would be a little better I know I was the one who wasn't crazy about all the investments into the offense and pillow fight Dan on the text line. He brought up a point. He said Hey I. Think we're you and I are far off is that I never expected the Broncos to make the playoffs this year. So them going to and seven or three and six isn't a shock to me. They were always a six and ten team. Then why did you go out and pay a guy like Melvin Gordon, a two year contract aid, and then you go out and get ag boy I mean you were you were making. Draw Casey, WHO's out, but you still win and got him. You're making off season moves. That kinda felt like you thought you could get into the playoffs. And listen I I still think that's possible. I still think it's possible. I don't see that you're going to get in that position. Where drew lock is going for the home run I. Tell You what Colefax and if I'm wrong, there you go. But this guy is gonNA come out. Much differently Sunday I don't want him to avoid going deep. You know even talked to the media about that yesterday said, listen I. Just got to pick my spots and I was frank quite frankly going going for it all the time gotta get involved he admits it. Hopefully he learns from it. He actually learns from it's one thing to say it. It's another thing to learn from. McLean. Says we should have never gotten paid manning because now we're just expect good offense and that just doesn't happen. For the broncos. You were also Broncos, countries, kind of spoiled I. Unfortunately, I think you're starting to get used to it. You're starting to get used about offense. This two, thousand and twenty Colefax. Super Bowl was in two thousand fifteen. I'm not a math whiz. Never claimed but that's five years. No playoffs and you're getting worse almost every year nine and seven that was the good old days with Gary Kubiak, and they missed it by a game. Since then you haven't really sniffed it. You have a chance to revive. Revive. Those playoff chances. And and you know what? For a lot of times the broncos use link did it against the chargers last two years even though the Broncos ultimately ended up being knocked so far out of it, it didn't matter with four games left. The BRONCOS, they needed to get a win to stay relevant at least for three or four more weeks. They beat the chargers the last two years. Brady if you could change your eleven and five pick. What would it be now? Still going. If I could change it, I still think teams over five hundred. Honestly. Only to like normally do. Let me, look let me let's just break it down I. I. I I know we're supposed to get predictions on Friday but. I think the Broncos beat the chargers. I do I mean this. There's GonNa be a lot made up of this Justin Herbert. Drew Lock thing but I think the Broncos will out deedee. This defense is looking so much better than per cell being out as a big blow. I. Don't Know How many more of these you can sustain did science US William. So we'll see if he's ready take that next step. I mean, he had a big play last week. Added Lanta. GotTa think they're winning. Still. Feeling good about you know those games coming up Vegas is going to be tough Miami. So I think that it probably win three out of the four for sure. For sure but. That's where I go. But I I I give them a fighting chance against the raiders saints. I'm scared of chiefs I'm scared of. Scenario looking at, you know there's six losses. At Carolina now suddenly becomes a tough game. Home Against Buffalo's a tough game although the bill struggled with jets nine and seven. If I had to pick Redo it. I still see not I still see seven wins there. You know chargers Atlanta Miami. Boy All right I'll go eight name only be honest eight eight. Sticking by my monistic bye-bye Eleven and see how close I get. So far I've. Got It. Right say for the titans. I think. They're going to get a feel good win against this chargers team. Charges are an interesting team. I think they're probably below average team at this stage. They beat the jags thirty, nine, twenty nine. That was crazy game. But Yeah. I mean there's a lot to like about Herbert and the fact that they competed against the saints I, mean they have some good things going for him. But. I still like the broncos at least at this point now Herbert is playing. He's playing great, and this is why the pressure is on drew lock see this is what? You may not have the luxury pillow Dan you may not have the luxury. To sail, we're just GonNa, what else do we do we? This is our only option. You might you might tank. That's an option. You might go free agency again, not with case keenum go with the guy that's actually a proven decent free agent. I mean those are going to be your options because listen Patrick Mahomes isn't getting any worse. You draft an offense this last year. That is is is basically trying to keep up with the chiefs. So you're hoping that that can be relatively soon. You know you. You don't Ha-. You might not have the luxury lets you completely wanNA lose pace and be the worst team in the division. because. The raiders are at least content with Derek Carr. chargers very excited about their future and the chiefs have the best player in the NFL. Twenty minutes after the hour. Thank. One of my friends here over seal mortgage find them at my special mortgage dot Com sel's family and veteran owned. And you've heard that interest rates are at all time lows. So now, prime time to get rid of any consumer that t have car loans credit cards student loans. 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Side from the Broncos game which I know it was It was the absolute worst case scenario lose forty three to sixteen. I. Think There's light at the end of the tunnel, but we'll see. The rest of the League did press on Colefax and it was kind of an up and down weekend for the most part. Let's take a look at. Some of these games, how about the Lions Falcons talking about Matthew, Stafford and maybe he doesn't have that it factor but. Late in that game, no time on the clock finds a way to get that last thing a touchdown. The Lions Win Twenty three twenty, two browns bengals. Joe Borough. Looking great and not not a great team around see. This is again. This. He's only played like six games and we know Joe Boroughs really really good I get his stock was way different than drew lock but. We know he's a stud they couldn't get the job done against the browns though the bengals were running things. Baker Mayfield had a good game solid game at the end came on strong. They lost bj though, Odell? Beckham. Junior. Adam schefter reports and Justin Anderson Report he is done for the season. So rough one there for the browns who sit at five and two though. For the bengals are one in five steelers titans this was a really fun game in the second half. steelers were up twenty four to seven at the half titans marched all the way back and made this thing. Interesting. Derrick, Henry had some great moments head some tough moments to the steelers stood him up a few times that steelers defense is really really good big. Ben's playing well James. Connors playing well a brown for the titans had a beautiful game, but ultimately, the steelers remain undefeated six zero. And looking like a top team in the NFL Panthers Saints, I said, Panthers, they've become kind of a dangerous team Teddy Bridgewater there now three and four though saints found away again to win four and to not the exact start that they wanted to say it's kind of a mixed bag at this stage drew brees was twenty nine of thirty, six, two, hundred, eighty, seven yards and two touchdowns the. Bills struggled mightily with the New York jets jets were actually up at the half ten to six but the bills put together twelve points in the second half kind of bills feeling type game isn't it? That's kind of how the bills win defend decent Defense Josh, Allen big things I mean he had sixty one yards rushing three hundred yards passing bills, win eighteen, ten cowboys and the Washington football team. Cowboys have some major issues. The biggest issue. Can you lose your two and five Andy? Dalton goes down he's hit ridiculously hard has A. Concussion Protocol on the field hurting walkabout field. No Dallas cowboys no member of of the team of the of the guys out on the field actually walk up to see how he's doing. Like I'm watching this play out nobody looks concerned. No one is your quarterback. Your quarterback goes down. Somebody's usually flag out somebody to come help and Andy Dalton lies there by himself cowboys have some major issues. And I don't see it getting fixed anytime soon, packers and the Texans Aaron Rodgers after losses usually, he's pretty scary. Pretty terrifying. Well, he's. Four touchdowns, no interceptions didn't get sacked cleaned jersey for Mister Rogers twenty, three, four, two, hundred, eighty, three yards. What are the Texans do now they're one in six. How they've had a really difficult schedule but even winnable games, they just can't get it done. Obviously had a coach firing in the middle of the season that usually means. You're in a very tough spot look for be enemy to be the next head coach of the Houston Texans, the buccaneers and the raiders box just did bucks things. Now man their defense is very solid and Tommy be is getting better. Colfax tell me tell me you played Tommy be in this one. You maybe Aaron Rodgers four touchdowns too. So either way I. Tommy be three, hundred, sixty, nine, yards, four touchdowns. He had a rushing touchdown to yeah I mean that's Tom. That's what he does just when you think. You've got him all figured out. He finds a way. Tom Brady is is that good? Yeah. The one rushing touchdown he accounted for five touchdowns Colfax. I don't know if you're doing quick math there but four passing touchdowns one rushing touchdowns five Tom Brady's there rob Gronkowski put together a good game. And they're climbing the ranks as far as quarterback duo quarterback receiver duo Bucks Win Forty Five, twenty I, get it. The raiders were in a weird spot their whole offensive line is in turmoil. But the bucks walked away and one that one pretty easily. Especially Fourth Quarter Twenty, one to three forty niners and the Patriots, Jimmy Garoppolo? Two, hundred seventy seven yards, two interceptions, but the Patriots just don't. Look. Right Cam Newton even admitted. I you know what? If something doesn't happen I'll be in jeopardy of losing my job. Suddenly the PATS are two and four and the bucks are five and two. Tom Brady five bill check to. WHO's better? The chicken or the egg I think the egg so far is better if you know what I mean. Jaguars, chargers, AFC West battle This was this was interesting. chargers were up charged up early in this one jags. March Right Back Charter score twenty points in the Third Justin Herbert Twenty, seven, forty, three, three, hundred, forty, seven yards, three touchdowns and chargers looking pretty good. They have their quarterback even losses they've looked okay. But there they finally figured out how to complete a football game. They get the win seahawks cardinals that game was back and forth. Cardinals are an underrated team. But they they need some respect. And I tell you cuyler Murray is so much fun to watch. He is a blast hits sixty seven yards rushing and a touchdown hit three hundred sixty yards passing three touchdowns in a pick cardinals win in overtime thirty, seven to thirty four Russell. Wilson comes back down. To Earth, he throws three interceptions versus three touchdowns. Russell was running away with the MVP race. That certainly pulled him back the thing that I wanNA point out in this game though he almost had a pick six decay metcalf is a freak of nature. He's ten plus yards behind and is able to run down the defender. It was absolutely insane. He chases him down saves pick six. But Seattle loses their first game and Arizona is now a force to be reckoned with. We'll see what happens tonight on Monday night football suddenly Colefax this game seems kind of interesting doesn't it? Yeah you're looking at. A bears team that. Replaced their quarterback a few weeks ago and rams team. You're wondering Oh man all that Super Bowl magic from a few years back or a couple years back is completely gone now not so fast the rams are foreign to the bears are five and one. Jared Goff is thrown for about sixteen hundred yards and ten touchdowns. So this actually has the makings of being pretty decent Monday night. So I'm excited about it. Some of the big things take away. Yeah that Andy Dalton thing was. That was just tough. I mean did they not like and they don't they don't care they don't care about the season. Okay. Right anything. Best Team in the NFL right now think about that whole against the Pittsburgh steelers, the chiefs. How how far away is Tampa Bay? And that side of things. I mean you gotta you gotTa think the. steelers are right there. Chiefs are there. Find. Ways to win packers pretty. They've got the one loss, but they're still really good. They bounced back scoring thirty five against the Texans. up the good. The great teams are finding ways to win. Even when they struggle on one week, they balanced right back and it's so far some of these teams we thought would be in the mix are are rising to the top thirty four minutes after the hour Colfax. Let's jump out of here and get the latest on the local sports flash. A party a northern Colorado's force thirteen. Ten KFI K., the Block Party Wednesdays from four to ten. PM. Monday on mornings with gail an update on fire activity in northern Colorado and beyond and a review of some of those pesky ballot Nassar's Joanna Nine, thirteen, ten KFI. Taylor, takes care my vehicles. We'll take care of yours to everything revolves around technology. So out Taylor knows that having skilled technicians paired up with cutting edge vehicle diagnostics is just as important. Their Vehicle Diagnostics are advanced and more importantly accurate whether your engine is making that clunking noise or whatever you your brakes maybe starting to go kaput or you just need a routine checkup that's auto Taylor I trust them with my vehicles I know folks here at the at the radio station do as well. and. You will too. That's auto. Taylor in Greeley I finish text line three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six, crucial time coming up for drew lock and You, know a lot of a lot of texters and folks on social media are saying the same thing or some of you are saying the same thing like What's what's the alternative? What's the other? What's the plan here? What else are you? GonNa do it's it's you know it's drew lock. It's gotTa go you gotTa go the season here? I mean unless you unless you think Brett rippin somebody that we need to learn more about and I liked prepping. But I don't know that I'm ready ready to go. There you go. You go drew lock. Through the bulk of this season, and if you're to three games left and you're so far out of it then then maybe you see what he's got that's our power to play sports poll question though based on what you've seen I know it's eight games. Is drew lock the franchise quarterback go with your gut. Tell you I want to know do you really think that or you just are you just trying to be optimistic because the Broncos are here and you don't WanNa, see another quarterback and you want to see some patients here. Does. Your Gut tell you that he's Justin Herbert these Patrick. Mahomes and Derek Carr. Because that's the division your in AFC west likely. The Best Division in football. or at least darn close. You have to ask yourself that. Chris Chris Carter once said if you're not. Doing it to win the Super Bowl you're wasting your time I, get there young. But. You have to ask how how long take next year you're GONNA see USC strides being taken again, these next four games. We'll tell us a lot about the broncos. You'll tell us whether this team that has a fighting chance and should keep pressing on or whether this team may be should consider not trying their hardest. Don't that never happens. Trevor Lawrence, you're GonNa have to work really hard though tank underneath what the jets are doing. So you I mean that might not be. Already without Sam Donaldson. Jets already been here. So you don't want to become the jets. You don't WanNA become the brands I get that that's why I'm saying yes, I think he is. But. My mind could be changed on that in four weeks. Never has four weeks stranded stretch been so critical to a quarterback to a head coach to a general manager to a franchise. They could very well be in the thick of things in the playoff race in the AFC race. By the time we get out of these next this next month, the time we are around Thanksgiving. Benz. I don't think anyone can be a franchise anything. With Vic Fangio as the head coach. We've all talked about her frustrations with Fangio. There's no doubt he's building up a defense that's in my mind. I still think this defense over achieving which is. You know it's saying a lot about vic. You gotta boy back yesterday and. It took a little while, but the defense finally settled settled down after about two possessions. And they were the strength of that team yesterday everything else went went to Hell Kelly says elway couldn't read defenses in year two either. You gotTA. Be careful. With that. Got To be careful with the. Wasn't great in his first two years. John elway. I mean that that guy turned out to be the greatest and you know what the investment was great too as far as the draft. The pressure on John Elway to start his career was so ridiculous and and again drew lock didn't come in until late last year with no pressure. I of Intersex line three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six power to play sports poll question of the day. Is drew lock the franchise quarterback Keith Says Honestly Lock reminds me of Tommy Maddox all the physical skills, but not ready to lead an NFL team yet maybe a few years after just getting more experienced and decision making skills. Well, unfortunately for John Elway you don't really do you have. Do you have a few years and maybe broncos country does maybe you guys we all have that luxury Of waiting around and saying, okay, well, two years they'll be competitive. You're looking at. A seat Kubiak. Was the one. Vance Joseph was to vic fangio. This would be the fifth year and if you're saying a couple of years. So next year you're going to, you're looking at potentially a six to seven year playoff drought. That's bad business. Now, mayor talking about bad business broncos have never been in this position they've never been like this. That's why no matter what Broncos, Sunday, there's a study like ten years ago that you could tell when it was halftime in. Denver because all of the toilets flushing. Seriously that was the thing. Because everybody knows halftime, we're GONNA go to handle our business. That's because this team never has a strand of losing. You know they lose they have a bad year and then they're back they at least make the playoffs or they're a five hundred team. They're never awful. They're never the laughing stock they're never jets territory. But if you don't recover these four games, you're in that territory and what does that do? Ultimately, we could talk football and XS and Os and Oh, give him time. Give him time. Give him time. It is still a business. And you made some signings in the off season to me that didn't say that you're all about the rebuild your more about the retool and you think that you can win nine ten eleven games this season to get back into the playoffs you hired a sixty year old head coach. Times not necessarily on your side folks. I get it if you go for broke. And Okay and you say. There's two ways to go you go with an old coach with. A free agent quarterback this we're GONNA. Put it all. We're in a piece. This whole thing to get Joe FLACCO. That was the idea last year right? That was the idea we're GonNa get an old coach. We're GONNA get a quarterback Joe FLACCO. We're going to bring in Mike Bunch that off it's of line out and. Here we go wouldn't that didn't work. Okay. So we're going to keep the same head coach. We're going to go this route with a young guy. A lot of young guys in the draft. WE'RE GONNA go Jerry Judy, and that. which as a rookie? It's GonNa take time for him to develop but we thought he'd have a much better rookie year. Didn't we Jerry Judy future after guy in the first round? Don't you expect him to be a big part of your your team? I mean just ask the raiders and Henry Rose first advantage text line three, one, nine, nine, six, three, one, nine, nine, six. So, if you're going the route of all were young, then why didn't the Broncos go that route two years ago and hire a young coach Could grow with team that's what I'm saying is you don't have he would have five years. You're you're all say, Oh, well, it's GonNa take time. It's GonNa take two three years. Melvin Gordon won't be around Von Miller Gone Zo. What are you doing? With Kareem Jackson to three years what does that contract look like? Gear. Balls, you have a decision to make their to believe it or not. That becomes a big decision. So. No I don't. You might. Yeah you have the luxury of this year. This year is supposed to be the find out year. And, if you don't make the playoffs or and miss it by a significant amount of games. Think that's fair to say drew lock was a contributor in that. Do you have your question answered. True locks not the future. Or do you loaded up again next year and hope that everybody's healthy and covert free and all that stuff, and then you go in with a preseason. All admit preseason, the Broncos, but at Vance enough in the regular season where everybody's kind of caught up to everybody as far as. Knowing their playbook knowing their game plans. forty-eight minutes after the hour, we'll do a quick break here and we'll wrap up the show with closing thoughts. We're GONNA wrap up broncos chiefs time to move on. That was A. Blank show. But now it's time to move on. Get ready for the chargers because that game has a lot of meaning to it. Season could be on the line. Sunday. As a part of a big stretch of games in the month of November, we'll be right back. No Code now. Weekdays at for another Colorado's voice. Thirteen ten KFI K. here mornings with Gail Weekdays six to nine and northern Colorado's voice. Thirteen ten KFI. Hi. I'm Darren Don, Drek of ethics at the University of Northern Colorado and you're listening to the whole show thirteen ten K. s K. A. Colfax, it's time to turn the page. broncos chiefs was not what broncos country was really hoping for at least wanted to make that competitive. But it was a game I figured they'd lose anyway. It's now time to move on. You've got the Los Angeles chargers and the listen they're they're trying to fight and claw their way back into this AFC west. You know they see the raiders lose yesterday and they're trying to see if how close they can get second place and and your who knows. I mean I still think the chiefs are going to have to you know. Really, screw up to lose this division it seemed realistic Friday but. The chiefs? That's what great teams do even when their offense isn't firing on every cylinder, they recover in different ways defensively. Special teams they found ways to win. That's what great teams do and bad teams find ways to lose even when portion or a unit is playing well, and that's what the Broncos did right now the Broncos are a bad team. I had them around two and four, three and three depending on how you want to look at it with the schedule changes This is where the test comes for for me to be honest with you. This is where I thought. I said the broncos would recover. This coming weekend starting with the chargers and it was supposed to start with Miami are no Miami was inbetween excuse me was in between the chargers or the chiefs end up patriots game a lot to be told still about drew lock. Vic Fangio as a head coach. We. Don't have the whole story in front of us. That's why we have the whole show. Okay. Had to do it once Colfax how to do want span. All right. That's going to do it for us. We back at its top techs Tuesday sir. Charles. Is the only whole again, that could win the nuggets gift package tomorrow he's the only one. 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Talkin' The Star: Breaking down Monday night's win

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Talkin' The Star: Breaking down Monday night's win

"What's up guys talking to start? PODCAST is always host Connor Livesey a hearing only one co host today. Donald Miller's Coal Patterson could not be with US tonight but he'll be back with us later in the week or next week depending on how his schedule looks like. It's been a while since he's been on before we get started dot you doing all right. You know call of duty came out and it's been real rough for me with football ball school and call the duty trying to find time. I really need bike thirty two hours in the day. Is it that good. I haven't played call of duty in a long time. Dude I haven't bought a call of duty in like six years probably worth and this one is definitely worth. I was a huge fan of the modern warfare. There's growing up. That was right when I was in high school and I played the crap out of them and then they got into that futuristic stuff and I went away from the game because it got too much like halo so this is kind of going back to its roots and I I really enjoy it. Plus I like the cross platform stuff because every all of my friends have. PS Four. And so like I can play with them. Okay cool I might be spending eighty dollars on a video game then coming up I mean it's it's sixty but yeah I well. Let's get into the football. The cowboys won and other divisional game. which is something they have consistently done over the last few years? They beat the giants thirty seven to eighteen eighteen on the road in week. Nine proving to five and three a game that they didn't really see that they must need it to be a must win. But it was a game that you should have went out there and one and helped herself in the division ranking helped yourself in the NFC rankings. And they did it. They handle their business score. Probably a little bit not is indicative is the the game was the cowboys. Only put up. Thirteen points in the first half was thirteen twelve going into halftime then they exploded for twenty one points in the fourth quarter. You know six of those coming late Jordan Lewis Scoop and score but really good second half performance from the team kind of jolt. Jolt them to victory in another blowout win. which has been a common theme? The season is the outside of that jets game when they play the average is to below average teams. They absolutely destroy them. And then when they played the saints they play the packers. It's a kick scratch game and tough to win. So that's something they go and after work and it's something we're going to find out here on this three game. Stretch coming up starting this week with the Vikings. But let's talk about. Let's keep our focus on this giants game which your the overall opinion on my game because thirty seven eighteen. You see the score you go kick their ass. But that's really not the case. What are kind of coming out of that game? What are your thoughts and opinions on it? I I mean just the continuation of slow start. Say It's kind of getting to the point where I mean and so I get a lot of talk online. So it's I talked about the slow starts and immediately people think on coach batching and then no I mean the players come out and have to play the game and start fast but at some point when you see all of these guys is then turn it on later you have to switch something in your pre game routine to fix this. It is coaching at this point. Because we know the players can play. They're not doing it to start the games and that's really hurting them now. The interception was a weird one it was an RPO Safety came up in the whole thing and and just made a hell of a hell of a play there and I mean I watching it on the twenty two. I really expected expected to just be bad at down. His hands. Were just really nice on that particular play. They came right back to that when they got back got the ball back and hit the slant for like thirteen or fourteen yards. Next time that you love that you love that they go back to it and you love that after that turnover on the first I play of the game. The defense made a huge stop and they needed to do that now. They've always done a pretty good job against saquon Barkley. Now I know that he's he's gotten his yards in games prior but they've really bottled him up for the most part and they did that again in this past game I if they were going to to be able to turn the ball over on Daniel Jones they were GonNa win the football game and they ended up doing that. Yeah I in I know going into the game now that you were a little worried about Daniel Jones but I think you were more worried about Daniel Jones the manning games pass yeah. It's higher upside. Yeah for sure but you know my take on Daniel Jones. I just feel like that. Don that dude is GonNa do stupid stuff like in every game he plays in and you just got to be able to you. Oh you like. We talked about on twitter for the game. Like you know the balls that he throws you you have to take them away and he did that before. That is a stupid play right before. Half your winning. The the only thing you don't want to do in that position is give the cowboys. Great Field position with the opportunity to score points with twenty seconds left on the clock and he just cocked opted up and Xavier breadbasket. And that's just stuffy does And then the fumbles as well especially the the first one man is just like that happened happened. It didn't happen with them as much college but he was so reckless with the way he carried the football at UNC. That was one thing that I that I noted. pre-draft is is it. He has to secure the ball when he does care because he he he is dangerous on the ground when he carries the football like. He's more athletic than he looks. He's a tough guy. Yeah to bring down but he just carries the ball like I don't know I don't even know 'cause running backs seem to carry well but just like when a receivers wanting wide open in the open field and sometimes you're like why are you carrying football like that. That's what you would see but It's so weird because we keep talking about the slow starts and it's like I agree that the stars are slow and that is something definitely concerning but it just seems like there's so many like dumb things that happen and makes the starts slow like you know the interception interception. I play the game. You don't even consider that a slow start because you didn't even get started before you had a bad place next drive. They come out there they drive all the way down the field and then they a fumbled snap lose a couple yards. Brett Maher misses a field goal. Next drive you go all the way down the fewer you get into a third and four and then you throw the ball Randall Cobb he. Fumbles the football. It's like it's so weird because you go you go back to some of the other previous games. The was the dolphins game. We're in the first quarter. No the Green Bay game where they marched all the way down the field. The ball tips off his hand. and there's an interception. It's just they have to quit doing those yet themselves. And it's not like they can't complete passes or they can't take movable at will they are in their one of the top what five undoubtedly high-powered I powered offenses in the League. Yeah it's just so insane to me that like like when you say slow start. I know you don't mean this. It's just like you assume that they're like you. You know not able to pick up yards you know three ounce. That's not the case with this football team. It's like they they move the ball with these and somehow whether it's penalties whether it's it's a fumble whether it's and tip pass it's intercepted or an interception like something weird always ends up happening is stall the drive and then the next drive arrive. It's like something weird or happens. That's when they kind of struggled a move the football so then you're like man that's two drives with no points and I don't know it makes me go back to what you said is coaching. Because it's like I just feel like the things that happened that make these starts. Slow are like weird like it's not like it's you're not able to pick up yards but at the same time like it can't happen weekend and week out just saying oh it's the players you know it's it's exactly and and it's all different player. I mean it's not the same guy but but something with this team just doesn't come out fast and it's not like you're you're right. It's not like they're not Getting open it's not like throwing the ball. Well it just you have these stupid mistakes shooting themselves in the foot early and putting themselves in a bind as the Green Bay game with the the was it. The jets game with Michael Gallup or had a couple drops in the first half Randall. COBB last week I think Jason was. Is it the first half of the saints game. Where Jason Witten fumbled the ball? It's like just makes I duNno. DAX fumbled football that put them into a tougher fuel gold gold which I don't know if he makes the closer field goal because he's supposed to be better further away but it's just like I don't. I don't get how every week it's like. It's somebody different. Every every week that report to and be like dude unable to catch the footballer unable to not fumble unable to whatever. It's not like you dope quarterbacks not taken sacks that's really something where he would take sacks and put you on fuel orange that's something we really can't complain about any more but it just seems like we can week out. There's something weird happens at stalls these drives and so you got to figure out. Yeah and we talk about how the drops for Amari Cooper can hurt at times but he does more more than enough to make up for it. Randall Cobb is a straight up abusive relationship at this point like he does things gets open. He's a downfield threat and like he's yeah and then the stupid mistake happens the fumble a drop and his drops aren't a regis for the most as part like Amari's can be cobs have been you know a little off target and they bounce up up his hand instead of just falling to the ground. But once again the fumble on a third-down he makes the play gets upfield or Downfield for the first down and then gets hit and apple went flying so that bowl was not secured at all. So it's a love hate relationship with him he you know he buys you flowers then he smacks you in the face and I don't I don't know how to handle that because I feel like he is a bigger threat for the cowboys then. Kobe was co Beasley. Didn't make these mistakes and Kobe's Lee was a great third-down target as well. So I don't know how I feel about Randall. COBB you know who I do know how I feel about. Blake Darwin the giant killer. Why can't we get this guy on the field more? Remember remember when they signed Jason Jason. witten back in. What was it? Twenty five saps ban on it and yeah just you know he's not GonNa he's not GonNa play a whole lot and he actually had actually NEC. He's a game dude. He's like a high end running back. At this point he added eight catches victim. Open this week and I was like that seven points nine dude. I'm pretty sure Ezekiel Elliott had the same yards precarious. He did yard catch. It's I duNNo. It's weird I mean he. It didn't I don't know if I'd consider that. Drop because it looked like the DB kind of got his arm in between his hands in his chest to but I don't know if it was a weird game you know when I'm talking about the damn black cat or whatever it's just a weird weird game all around. In my opinion you know it news. I drive at the intersection of defense buckles down and then the next drive. They kind of moved the ball really easy again. If I'm not mistaken next drive the drive after that and I was like here we go again. It's like what defense we're GONNA get. And they they had defense had a really good game. You know. It's hard to complain about anything those guys did you know. Jordan Lewis is is is you're seeing. Here's the perfect example of the people who at us on twitter. And they're like Oh so you think you know more than Rod Marinelli L. E. and Christmas chart and it's like well sometimes when we're like. Hey John Lewis is a much better player than Anthony Brown and people were like. You're an idiot. And they put George Loosen he absolutely shuts. It's everybody down and turns the ball over. Maybe sometimes we do think we know a little bit. And that's the reason why buddy but yeah it's not like I mean and somebody said on the the one I think it was an overthrowing her earned under thrower something to saquon Barkley in the flat latte but I know that you know Chris Right on twitter. There's a lot of which is like Chris J. NFL something like that. The you know him Sir you know him you know he said something about Jordan. Louie would have been smoked there but I don't even think that guy on apply and he would have been pee on on the play action to start and SAQUON wanted. Just outran him but like guys are GonNa make mistakes makes every once in a while. You're saying it's turnovers. When he is on the field and for the most part he actually covers his guy in doesn't allow him to catch the football? Guess what he is better he just is and I don't think it's a close literally just because he's five foot nine that's that's it. I know it blows my mind that can happen but I don't know man I break. They'll come back and talk a little bit more about this football game. We do have a lot of positive you take over to. We kind of started off negative. And we'll talk about some of the positive we saw as well so we're going to take our for our only podcast come back and chat some more about the positive breakdown down from the cowboys win over the New York giants in week nine and then we might quickly quickly quickly prep for the cowboys. Vikings game coming up this Sunday Sunday night on Sunday night football so we'll be right back after a break we're talking to star. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan a nanny. 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Her Injured Day subscribed today explained for free On Apple PODCASTS. or in your favorite podcast APP. It's from stitcher and the VOX media podcast network and we're back when the STAR podcast. Thanks so much. To blogging. The boys espy nation. Vox Media for allowing us to host. The podcast do us all a favor go on twitter. Dot Com and follow us on twitter at Connor fell draft at Dalton B Miller at Cau l Patterson and at the star follow blogging. The boys will twitter at blogging. The boys so we can keep keep up to date informed for all things Dallas cowboys are. We started off the podcasts kind of negative doom and gloom. I think that that was warranted for sure. So I wanna GonNa talk about some of the positive and the one thing I wanna start with Sean Lee. Couple weeks ago we were on the podcast talking about how we hadn't seen a lot from Sean Lee but because they were playing them out of position at Sam linebacker well what are you know they move them back to his natural position will linebacker weakside linebacker in the do just has an awesome game. The best will linebacker play that. We've seen all year from that position. If you know not offense but I think that the place. He made ourselves that. We haven't seen been made from that position all year. What's your thoughts on Shawn Lee's performance and do you think that it's not going to say position Chan say that we're we're gonNA change where Sean Lee goes? Lv Now. But I think it's something to where you want to get him on the field in that will linebacker position. Maybe more often than not. What's your thoughts on that? I think that they should try to sub in an out more and keep them fresh. You know as much as I love. Lv and as well as he played last year he's not playing up to to that level so far this year and sometimes man Sean Lee is just so quick with how he processes things on the offensive line and what he sees in the backfield met bet no matter how much bigger and more athletic. LV is he's not making those plays because he doesn't see it as fast as Sean Lee does. And Sean Lee is not a bad athlete. Now you WANNA limit you do wanNA limit him a little bit. Because of the injury concerns got a strain pack. I mean he can't not get hurt during a football game in which he plays you know fifty percent of the snaps so someone and out and just keep the guys fresh on obvious passing nounce. uh-huh I would definitely have in there. I think he's a better cover. Guy Than Sean Lee is and then even if you want to on obvious passing. Downs Brings Sean Lee in And Move Lv over to the Mike and have him run will So because you know Jalen Smith lateral movements man and I don't know how much of a change that would be or if they would have to learn anything they're differently. We coverage wise with the change in responsibility between the wheel and the Mike and maybe that's why they don't do things like that but at some point you have have to understand that jalen just ain't GonNa get it done if he has to move left and right with guys and when it comes to just straight up linebacker play get. LV In and out of there in Sean Lee and On rundowns early bounds especially against the SAQUON. Barkley is the guys who you know kind of dance around and make thing when you're facing you know I don't understand like Derrick. Henry is in Gaza mcdaddy coming straight downhill. That's Jalen Smith's bring butter but when you got the Barclays and the I mean even dalvand cooks. It's kind of a straight line runner. You know he's not a guy who's going to kill you laterally and I thought Jail Smith had a good game for the most part I think he made a couple of good poison. Running game didn't get much coverage came out and made a few good tackles but I definitely think that Sean Lee needs to get on the field more at his natural position. Because you concede the difference that he can make. I mean. I don't know if I have. We seen tackles for loss from the linebackers. This year. You know blowing up screen plays or yeah I mean we we've seen and a couple on the edges specifically with with. Lv e did what he did that against the Philadelphia. Eagles I remember I think it was a screen to the left side. And he got swing pass to the left side and he got time for loss but it hasn't happened Mug and that's right. Yeah and then just shoot there. Was I think there is there is too. I mean two or three plays. I don't think both of them are tackles for loss but two or three plays in that second half where saquon caught the ball and got crushed. Rush by Sean Lee and I just feel like we haven't seen those plays from the linebacker position this year And everything to be addition of Michael Bennett is going to help us. Well that's what I was getting ready to go to him. It was a very solid showing for him. As I show with the cowboys you know He. He did to offside penalties. He's but he was disruptive yet quarterback kids at quarterback pressures he did end up with a sack tackles tackle for loss in there as well so he made his presence known in his first game with the cowboys and he did it from both the outside the inside and actually this is the first podcast since they traded for him so we really didn't talk about him a whole lot but yet you could tell his his impact on that defense was air evident. Can we talk about shoulder PADS IN HIS JERSEY HIS JERSEY. There's too big. He Normally Jersey is too big and his shoulder pads or too small. What the Hell is going on with that? But he always versus small shoulder pads but then the but the shoulder pads weren't just small man they were like screwed up to see. I think it's because of Big Jersey on the small shoulder pads made it look like you know. My dog was playing football it. Ah Well it didn't look like my dog was playing football. My dog fills out her jersey. I'd always thick Hewlett Goodman. He you know and I just in writing about him Easter football players when you write about him after the acquisition you turn on the tape you watch it like even the place he doesn't make he's in the backfield trio like he's Niphon through. He's he's being disruptive he's he's getting other people around the football and that's what that's what you want with a guy like that he doesn't have to make every single play but when he doesn't make the place he's helping somebody else make those plays and I think you saw that a lot and just as I you know I game with the cowboys. So that's going to be a fun guy the follow the corners. I had a real shoot. I don't even remember receivers gone. Golden State had to really Nice Catch Empire Jones right by the goal line but other for them that I really don't even remember a receiver catching a football. You know. Obviously they did. That's exaggeration but it was nothing to where you're like. Oh my goodness what's going on. You know everything was everything seemed to be underneath and court quick throws but nothing real big happened. The secondary exhibit woods had the interception Gary and Thompson I think came in and played real well and Jeff. He's absence that's what we're going to keep an eye on and see how that Gail what that looks like in the next week or two uh but on the offense asylum ball I want to talk about. Zeke's performance Zeke. Had a really good day on the grill. Even guys who can kinda say honestly come out and say hey you know. We're not big supporters of paying running backs big money if Zeke's GonNa play like the last two weeks so be it you know. I think that he's averaging you know he's getting he's picking up uh-huh big-time yardage early downs. He's moving the football. He's being productive in the last two weeks. been a lot different from what we've seen in the first half of the season You know I still would have rather not paid him money. But he's playing really well. He's being productive. He's being efficient. And that's all you can ask from from him right now especially playing the eagles and giants. And you're GONNA need him to show a big against the vikings next week as well. No I mean he's been great. The offense lions played phenomenally. I mean they. They ran a tunnel wide zone in this past game against the giants. And when you're able to move guys down the line and and create nice easy clean. Reeds for Ezekiel Elliot. He's going to take advantage of now. I don't wanNA sound like haning. I don't why he's just not making the huge way. He's not going to make a huge play anymore. Twenty Sixteen seat could twenty eighteen or twenty. Nineteen Zeke is not matron eighteen. Couldn't no and he's not making a safety miss but if he's going to pick up six to eight yards a carry implant in wide zone in the offensive line is going to allow that in. It's not just the offensive line. The there was a couple of plays where he should really nice patients and so to really find the crease going. You know Tony Pollard. Came in and had a couple of runs as well. I think that this team especially the the further we go along the further. Travis Frederick gets better he starts getting the last few weeks yes. We're getting to the point. where he is is almost back to old chief red? And that's great and in the run game for the most part Connor Williams is fine too. Yes still is using pass. No but you know the that offense blind especially that right side of the office of line with Zack. Martin who I saw. We'll get blown up on a play early in the game and it absolutely blew me away that that happened. But that's I mean that's that's one time you're not gonNA see. I don't think I've ever seen Zack. Martin dominated on the play before and he did on that one. It was really weird scene. But when you guys exact Martin Travis Frederick and Lyle Collins who was playing at an elite level right now run run run by that right side all game long Yup Yup. It's hard to argue that last few minutes I do want to talk about Dak Prescott. A little bit wasn't a he wasn't a perfect performance from him by any means but I think he had a pretty solid day. I think as far as post snap. I'm going to say his worst performance. Still think he did a lot of good post nap to up a pre snap. I thought he was money. I think you checked in and out of more looks in that game game Monday night. Then I've seen him do the last few weeks probably all season and he was just complete control in it show. I think they ran into favorable liberal box when it showed it and I think they threw against unfavorable boxes when it was there and I think that's why you saw his numbers up their third for two hundred seventy seven yards two hundred and fifty two hundred and fifty fifty seven three touchdowns twenty to thirty five one or -ception interception. It was on the first play the game you know. He didn't have. I thought the best play of the game from him was up autumn or Cooper on the second to last offensive drive across the middle. That was dropped. I just think that that was a corner. Had Inside Leverage Safety was off and he just put it right on the back shoulder right over top corner market and bring it down but I thought that was really really nice. Thorough to try to try to seal the game for them and not give the giants and other chance at it a thought he was good not great. What he did pre snap was really really good But I think that. That's that's probably the the lower level the quarterback that we've seen this year and I think that when you can put up those numbers version have that success in still not play your best. I think that kind of tells you how high standards we have for him now. Yeah I mean this game was a little bit different. I felt like like in this one. They really worked The quick game quite a bit I mean he was getting the the ball out of his hands really fast And something that that I saw on twitter and I can't remember where I saw it but each week. The past the past blocking win rate keeps keeps going down and down and down further for the Dallas cowboys. which is a little bit weird? Travis Frederick is playing better and I have you noticed any you know legitimate intimate pass protection issues. No I mean no. I mean William's going to be two to three times a game that's just yeah we gotta Accepting period time Travis. Frederick was getting beat three or four times game no I mean and that's what I thought was a a little bit weird but they really didn't for the most part pushed the ball down the field very often in this game there was a lot of underneath stuff. A lot of underneath stuff to Jason Win But he he got up there. He made quick decisions even post nap to get the ball out and get completions and you can only ask from for so much after the catch from Thirty seven year old guy who just came out of the booth last year. Otherwise there is there was a Lotta routes coming back to the ball again on the quake game throw and hitch routes and again you. You're just not gonna get many yards after the catch in those situations and then when you have those couple of opportunities down the field the one over the middle on on the deep post to Amari Cooper that he overthrew and then the one where It was a hitching. No from Gallup on the right side They ran for verts In that situation and ran Cobb beat his guy in the slot. And I really couldn't tell right away where that ball was going but I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be going to Michael Gallup on the outside and he just completely overthrowing Other than that BA throw to Tony Pollard. was fine on on the out. I would really like. I've a design issue with that play. I feel like Jason Witten Should be running that natural rubber out there and running that slant because it would have been a perfect time against the linebacker there to do that And they just he ended up running a deeper in route and couldn't get that natural robin you're expecting Tony Pollard. To win there and then when the ball got up in the here I just don't think he could track it because it looks like the ball is they're just you know throw. The ball was thrown a little bit to the outside. I think when he looked up to to expect the ball you you know kind of at the numbers and Dak Prescott through towards the sideline. I just don't think that he was able to locate it. It looked like when it fell. It looked like it was nowhere close. Oh slowing watched it today. I was like I mean again. It wasn't on the money by any means. But definitely if he if he points out and finds a dead should be touchdown on but the one the one that stood out to me actually was the Michael Gallup touchdown in real quick. Before I get to that was that not offside. Besides that's what I'm saying. It should have been Dak thought at one he vows. Did you hear you know they did. It was a run host. We'll design quarterback run and when the guy jumped that's Z.. Didn't do anything like the the right side. The offense align was blocking he was supposed to uh-huh designed to run when he saw him jump he changed. He didn't change play. But Michael Gallup will still running around on that Michael Doc. Alpina Amari Cooper in the same area and he threw the ball over the cornerback. Thinking he had a free play. And it was a touchdown just worked out but it was a run play because lower collins. Zack Martin Run blocking Z.. Literally stood there turn around looked at him like okay. And then Amari Cooper Michael Galloper Alber standing ten feet. Apart from each other so the Andrea Baker is actually able to cover both of those guys but Prescott thought he had a free play. Got The ball over the corners head and then the Dow Gallup did the rest so those are good things is again. Should've one hundred percent mental flag. He's expecting flag on that. But those are good things to see from the quarterback that he's recognizing recognizing that naturally using his brain too. You know there's a few in that game where dolphins aligned and move when they jumped off sides and he was trying to make a play Plu blew blew the play dead so I don't know the officiation officiating was terrible in my opinion both ways Monday night so I mean the officiating. Just overall has been atrocious. Oh yeah for for all teams the the pass interference Challenges are are worse than what it was with no challenges and I don't understand why so difficult to just just have an eye in the sky real quick before I forget before I don't get to put this in. I was going to ask you. I wanted to get you guys thoughts on this as well. Do you think the the inability hit on the deep ball to something they have done so good this year. You know some of that blame could be just handed to. It's a bye week so they didn't employ a week and kind of knocking off some rust. Because I feel like a deep something you timing. It's something you're you know it's not up. You know I and I really don't know I don't know if so what I thought when I was watching is maybe he thought because that safety was there in the middle that Amari instead of flattening out at a forty-five Vike did which is Kinda stay more vertical and that might have been what caused that little little bit of a difference there but I mean there's up to Gallop Kinda die for just see that one I think is just that little bit of timing And and also with that Michael Gallup is somebody who I put this on twitter. He just separates really late on those has nine routes and it's something that he really he hits that high gear and maybe he just tried to hit that high gear a little bit too late but law was was just a little bit out of the beach there. A and I'm never going to be upset with the quarterback for with a corner in trail coverage if you overthrow in a little now what we've been noticing. Recently it is. It's either on the money or a little bit behind. And he is allowing guys like Amari Cooper and Michael Gal come back and make those plays now and I'm I'm hoping that we're not going to back to two thousand eighteen. Dak where he's trying to be perfect downfield and getting those overthrows because he doesn't doesn't necessarily need to do that. Yeah and I don't think I don't think that's the issue at all. I think with the bi week off it so that you haven't done you didn't practice probably fully at role during the bye week. Took some time off you. Just Kinda got out of the rhythm of things back when I played baseball a lot when you don't play a baseball game and then you go try to hit against a five mile per pitching next time. It kind of takes you a couple of bats to get back on so I probably notch it up to that more so than anything but next week's going to get a little bit earlier this week I should say is GonNa get a little bit tougher. you got the vikings coming to town tough team kind of your first game in a while to kind of stake. Your claim is one of the better teams in the League and you know we talked about slow start. She talked about the turnovers. That's something that guys can't do against a team like the Vikings because they make you pay for that the giants couldn't and can't yet because they're inefficiencies. The Vikings will and should be a good game and should be a game. The cowboys can kind of put their name

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Week 14 Studs & Stinkers + Soul-Crushing Tilt - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/14

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Week 14 Studs & Stinkers + Soul-Crushing Tilt - Fantasy Football Podcast for 12/14

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It's a drug-free nonsense sailing based moisturizing formula and you can swab it out with xichang nasal all clear it's available on amazon search for zych cam nasal all clear. That's a l l c l a. r. avenue welcome to the fantasy football podcast with your hose. Andy holloway jason moore and mike reid. Welcome in who. Welcome into the show. Any mike and jason or some. I hear what a monday semblance of of the three of us what day to be alive. Gentlemen the birds are chirpin. Tweedy for you mike. Oh brother there's part of me that acknowledges this is why you listen because our hearts and our souls are invested in into our leagues and And then there's party meeting is just wishes. None of you wanted to show today. How you doing jason l. of one to ten scale on the ten o'clock i've gotten back up to about a one. So you're in the next was. Yeah i was certainly Negative for an update booted. You do so i chose to play long story short. A bunch of toil and effort and i. I left mike davis on the bench. I love james conner. Most in the lineup. I picked anything else than what i did. And i would've won. I didn't win. i lost you lost. You had been losing some weight. I had been losing some way. I then did my best to undo that last night. Yeah you said you had a very large order from the The local mexican joint. Filiberto is forty the learn. More as we call it. That's that's one hundred percent right I don't know if youtube gentlemen realizes so. We play in three main leagues together and the fourth with our second dynasty. The andy is not in Thank thank you share team there and we're on the by. Yes we in that league vocal. And i highly recommend getting the by yeah. I was dynasty team undefeated on the by. I mean those are great. Those are great But in those four league so i. I made the playoffs all four. The in the main three. It's not even monday night. Football hasn't happened. i'm out. I'm out all three four. I'm going it's over man. And that is the first time now in six years that i will not have a championship. You got an order in one of our main leagues. So i yeah last night. That's quite a run man. Eight years of the three main league five five straight six i well. That's a really good run. It's monday december fourteenth. We do have a lot to cover whether we want to. Or not. And mike and i were head to head in our league record. I'm gonna lose yes. Probably the the isn't the match was not over. I told you. I wanted monday night. To matter it barely matters i need. I want the world out there. Put your hearts together. I need lamar under twenty points. Lamar under twenty points. And mike won't be here tomorrow. That is accurate. But i look like a blowout. I have one hundred forty five points. I was beating mike into Submission game broke down into a way that. What did i relate it to. Oh like we were taking turns at the dentist. Yes that's right because all my players were in the morning games and my and we have a. We have nine screens up at the at the office. And i'm scoring david. Montgomery at every single one of your players went off. Robinson deandre hopkins. And mike's watching it all and he's got nobody going in the morning somehow so don't schultz. So he he went in. He went back into the dentist. I and you could hear the drill any screaming a little bit and there's pain they didn't. I'm up well enough. And he literally gives me the the death line. Which is i can't catch you. It's impossible you win. Which i should have put on paper and had a notary come and certify that that would have been great stopped the count but when i would not to be fair when i said that jason was there any way that i could have possibly come out. There is no way every single. One of your players would have had to get bombed touchdowns over and over and see. Why hilton calvin ridley. If keenan allen they just score after score score but never fear guys because i have diontae johnson in the night game. Who here we are and i. I came in and told mike have kinda turned the page. I haven't it was a lie. I lied to mike this morning. Welcome in monday monday. Take all these. Mike arcadia all the good the happy. Yeah you take the happy. We will start with jonathan chase. Claes stool no orleans defense. I have to find a good one. Oh smiles center. Gosh oh why. don't you take the deontay one. Andy oh you mean deontay. Drops in order from drop on johnson. Whatever up onto dry joke. I've thought of all of them. I'll take this one James goner hime no starts kelvin. Rude b. o b. A bernard vanni. He's got be. Oh no. that's good the funniest one. I've seen be ovonic. Borey davis in week alien. Yes i know brooks got knocked out of the dynasty leagues the week elliott. Yeah could easily by as well all right. You can follow the show if you want more of this sweet content at the f. f. ballers on twitter The fantasy football players dot com is the website. There i if you go to the ballers on twitter you will find. Just various memes of jason slipping out of his chair. Yeah my cry. Face meme is taking the internet by storm. I may have had a part in that. I regret nothing. Because it's it's incredible. We will get through this. We will get through this because we have to to get paid all right into the news. Weekly rewind at this point. Now we're focused on championships. That's right on getting the ones left. Let's focus on the listeners in me Okay alright dynasty lead focus on that take you say yes in the best friend. How good would it feel to be mike right now. I mean. I'm just thinking like i just i'm holding onto the miraculous. Hope that he feels the opposite tomorrow. Oh in case like we start the game off lamar bomb touchdown but it is great and then all of a sudden nothing from then on out. Yeah i was. I was going to start with the pick. If you start to pick i will. I will into a turtle. Shell immediately follow along. Follow along for my five percent chance. all right. the dolphins place myles gaskin on the covid list. We knew that before sunday. It ended up being beyond ray washington. He was the starter he got most of the first and second down work. Patrick laird was in on third down and You know i i gotta say. I'm pretty impressed. With the dolphins performance on sunday. They're missing their. You're up five. Or six pass catchers and they were missing their top three running backs and they still took the chiefs to the brink hugo game from to a very impressive I believe that their playoff chances go up dramatically while they're fighting with you know like baltimore so we'll see what happens tonight. David johnson was placed on the covid list. We knew that before sunday. This one stunk. Yeah forty niners wide receiver. d broke. Samuel exited early with a hamstring injury and did not return. It was instantaneous but it was it was like the first. The play was to deebo and he looked great. Got around the corner was running like a man and then he was like oh and then he ran to hard then he was running like one of us. Yeah you saw the the hitch and the giddy up immediately agitating and then. He slammed the helmet and you went. Oh that's a that's a game ender. Yep yep fantasy football on display really disappointing. Use my start of the week. Great matchup i. You had a huge game. After debate left mike williams exited with a back injury. He's always hurt to you. Noah fant exited early always hurt dealing with an illness. They said matthew stafford left hurt forgot crumpled up. Yeah you know. He's real hurt when he leaves because he just doesn't leave. Alex smith calf strain. He left dwayne haskins. Came back in. They it's been what four four troubling weeks for mclaren and less confidence than ever in what that offense can do with him right now. Ran and allen. Did not return bone bruise bengals quarterback and there you go so We have studs and duds to talk about today. Somma push this button. This week's fantasy stud muffins. All right. i mentioned before two two ot head a huge game three sixteen into and ran for one six for twenty four on the ground. Thank you fancy playoffs next week. New england no no thank you know. England no no confidence in that. Aaron rodgers lisi. Nfl thirty nine passing touchdowns. Four picks is that a good ratio thirty nine to four thirty nine. Yeah hey and he throws it to that atom sky and then they They always score. Adams is Real delight to have in your fantasy leagues. I highly recommend it. I feel like somehow as his skill has ascended to maybe the best in the league. He's also become larger but not just like muscles but also like taller and faster like he just looks like a man among boys. I think it's just his presence presence. Yeah yeah he's he's. He's a man i may have to. We may need to move. That drop drew lock. Oh mr irresponsible. twenty one. Twenty seven to eighty and four. It was the worst. He was one one for twenty seven to eighty four. I've ever seen because that stat. Line is perfection. He was yeah. That's that's amazing. That's a phenomenal perfect stat line and you know watching the game. It didn't feel like that. But maybe that's the preconceived notions of his irresponsibility. Trubisky twenty four for thirty three three touchdowns to sixty seven through the air they dominated houston Thoroughly derek carr thirty one for forty five three sixteen and two ran for one as well no the classic car. It's a pretty crazy week week. Fourteen was was pretty crazy. But think about that. When you're talking about four of these top five options were car drew. Lock trubisky and to a. And i mean that's just that's the way everyone saw going right. Yeah he and russell wilson. He had a good game to find that when we which is nice thirty six passing touchdowns a career high for him. Jalen hurts man one sixty seven and one but the bigger story eighteen carries one hundred six yards on the ground. Jalen hurts was. This is exactly what you wanted to see for fantasy. This is why we said you know yes pick up. Jalen hurts in the hope that you can play him the following week. Because you can't you can't have the conference if you had the swag to put jalen hurts in in whatever with never seen him against the against the new orleans saints then a tip of the hat to you for making a tremendous call but now it jalen hurts is is the streamer for next gen arizona in dallas at the next two weeks. You think about that game. I can't think about that game. Because they're miles sanders run. It's was delightful. I i'll sanderson said to good games this year. They've both been against me. I hate him. His gratings have been against the best part of it is both of the games that miles sanders blew up. In pittsburgh steelers new orleans saints rushing defense and it was really one run again. Yeah yes which is the aside. The huge touchdown run miles. Sanders was very pedestrian. Congrats all of you who had mile sanders in had the guts the plan. I know mike was tilting. Even yes lawn playing him that morning. Been you imagine no if you had been miles sanders no in up to the moment for clan like if you're out there and you benched miles sanders for an officer that i do not blame you in the slightest here. Here's where my playoff. Till was i had picked up. Chad hansen from the houston texans Because brandin cooks was out. And i was. I was legitimately thinking about playing jamal. Adams and chad hansen putting miles sanders on my bench. That's how freaked out by the matchup. I was and it turned into. I can't lose miles sanders on my bench. That was the only reason why i played him. So all the fear out there. I had an equal dose of it tastes hill ended up with a good game to ninety one and two and he finally threw the ball to alvin kamara. Well that's nice of him. Yes solly helped us numbers. He takes him. You know you get credit for that right. Wait a minute what he's running back. I didn't think i could throw to him. All right. running back studs couple starts to the jonathan taylor. David montgomery huge gains covering only had eleven carries in a game where they blew them out and he had one hundred thirteen. And one including a huge touchdown the only needed one kerry. Yeah jonathan taylor. Twenty for one fifty and two or baby his last three games. He's the running back thirteen three into so he has been. He has been playing to his schedule. Perfectly he seems to find they have a rhythm with the offensive line. Something he hadn't been able to do. Nyheim hines very limited snaps in this game and we talked about miles sanders now. Derek yeti himself oh the transformation is x. For two fifteen and two. He made up for lost time. Last time was last week. found time. was this week. he is actually. He only needs to average. I know jason. Don't don't participate in this but take out your earbuds if you need to because this was your demise you got yet if i had christian i know i lost by six points. Davis bench will yeah. Yeah we know it sucks. Derrick henry run for two thousand yards if he averages one fifty six over the last three weeks he will. He might break the record. Yeah so pretty pretty. Pretty good for Dare kenny which makes the match ups. Like the detroit matchup which is great. It makes it more difficult when you see like the tannehill decision in coming weeks. If you know what this team is going to be about. I think tannehill good start. It's just you kind of understand what our situation is all right. Mike davis okay. This is not jason's part of the show. Talk to me about my davis mike. No so mike davis and up to to kind of echo jason's feeling before the match up. I mean like the results. Say that playing. Mike davis was the right call and and not playing remote stirred was the right call but i mean things had trended poor. They were trending poorly for mark davis so he seemed like he had. It lost his gummy berry juice where he was losing his powers and his his line is really not that impressive. Eleven for fifty one on the ground. Five for forty two. That's fine but two touchdowns touchdowns is the difference maker always for fantasy football. No question austin ekeler was involved through and through nine targets. Nine catches fifteen rushing attempts. Huge game. I love justin herbert. That just in herbert knows that he needs to get the ball to ekeler. And then alvin kamara if this is a result of of tatum hill being smarter. I don't know if it's a result of being healthier ten targets. Seven catches forty. Four yards had a touchdown on the ground. Nice to see. I'm sure you played him so he actually performed for you. yes Huge wide receiver days tyreek hill another two touchdowns to fund digs at one point in the game last night and he went ten for one. Thirty one almost won the game for jason in a way that probably added added to the the bill for there was an excellent food. There was a deep bomb at the end of the game. That was it was like what do i knew it i was like. There's no way they're not even passing anymore. And then i look at digs. He's on the left. They dropped back. He bombs it to digs. I stand up screaming. And he drops it and i threw something on the ground and stormed out after that and i didn't see anything else in the game. Remember remember like a week or two ago. You said you were trying to be dignified. I did remember that. I thought about that in the shower this morning i was trying and i and i thought this is where i got. I realize i need to have more grace. When i see someone lose helping until i need to have grace for them because i think i'm better than that and i'm not the net work on it. Yeah this is called. Rebound till. After you made that proclamation. This is the worst. I've ever seen you okay. There was a point in the game against the pittsburgh defense was to find. Eggs can do whatever you wanted to do. It didn't matter. I mean they just went to him over and over and over and over again and he was dominating so leads. The nfl in receptions complete machine all right he's fully one hundred percent on fire. Big part of mike's victory. Here's what shock t. y. Hilton seven targets five. Eighty six and two does t y hilton. Know that like there were a lot of games before the last couple of weeks now he. He could've showed up this. Ty houston next week. Oh oh yeah what happened. Well here just to give you an idea of what he's doing. The last three games where he is i mean. He's totalled two hundred seventy seven yards and four touchdowns and seventeen receptions. That'd be a sixteen game pace of fifteen hundred yards and twenty one touchdowns that is levels of t. y. hilton. We haven't seen since high t t y. Yeah that's not a low. We had gotten not why for two years. You may have saw physician. Maybe von miller coming out and saying like he doesn't think andrew luck is done got to hilton remembering the good old days. I don't know. I don't know it's incredible though because next week. He's a must start Against houston. I started a week. You can have you can have it allen. Robinson thirteen targets from trubisky. He's been kind of resurrected by trubisky. he is a. He's getting the red zone targets. Yup and he's gonna be a great play through the playoffs. Calvin ridley davante adams. Aj brown you expect to be expected. Big things big things from them. Caja hamler to eighty six and two nothing you can do with that other targets. Yeah i mean other than say. He's a good player. he's probably going to be a kind of a sneaky player over the next couple of years. If they figure things out on offense nelson aguilar d'andre hopkins brandon uk's targets for you and what are the odds the deebo back next week i would put them very low very low so i i you could be a league winner to also to. I know you mentioned nelson agholor. But he was so impressive to me because this was a little different. This was like more possession. More targets nine receptions. He was just a huge huge part of the offense through and through on the course season. He's been very good. But it's all been touchdown based you know he. He ends up to find financial. But i you know. I think we got to give him his credit especially coming up with the los angeles chargers probably a good Pick up all right before we talk about the tight end studs we want to tell you. Tell you about a new podcast. I want to tell you about a new. 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I mean t y hilton taking it up to one hundred gosh so many hundreds miles sanders hundred lamar jackson lamar jackson about the take it up to one hundred as well picking up to ten absolutely and if you wanna take your hair up to one hundred remember take it up to one hundred with head and shoulders. It is available online at walmart. I don't even know what happened to jason's house last night. I don't know what happened for hours last night. But if the police broke in And haul them off i. I'd be like yeah that makes it. We get it. We're new yeah makes perfect. Sense tight end studs. Kelsey is on be leave. -able he leads all pass catchers with one thousand two hundred and fifty yards as more than metcalf has more than tyreek he is. But yeah andy. Yeah tight end. No no no. He is a greek god s zeus. He's i mean you for one thirty six you have to imagine at this point of their mahomes will actively try to make him lead the league. Yeah in receiving yards. Yeah just to be another you know. Check mark on this hall of fame. Career he is going after the tight end wreck receiving yards record. I agree with you mike. Which makes you knocking me. And travis kelsey out of the playoffs all the more painful my sixty six for five for sixty five in to hurt his arm at the end of this game. He's been on fire lately. Herb smith ended up for for the three bigger. Bigger rudolph was out of this game and we didn't see a lot of until the second half and then he came Came up with four catches hopkinson. Six forty three and a touchdown moon very reliable very consistent relive and targets and robert back into the end zone. Again it's kind of his thing. Yeah it's roger stink to. They both have a thing in its indians on all right. Let's let's move forward to a. Oh i'm so this. Can we go to jason's solo cam here very much. Stinkers of the week presented by odor eaters. Jason also presented by me. you're sponsoring the segment. I'm helping i mean orders are awesome. I'm awesome. I'm going to help sponsor this segment because You on a scale. I wanna i wanna i want to celebrate the awful. That's what i'm here to do today on a scale of like this moment compared to the pea river moment from last year. Which was you remember you were. You were destroyed. Hollow just watched a replay of that on wednesday which one's worse comparatively speaking. If you were to write a book which chapter is like kind of the climax of pain is is different because this one was on me. Last year was on the river. So my my right eye. I limit how much. I'm willing to hate myself You know and but i had no limit for rivers so you know. I was allowed to really fire hose towards philip rivers. And i myself. I've got you know. I've got a show. Some great got to draw a line in the sand. Matt ryan this. We set it really. Oh eleven. no julio no matt ryan he was bad to twenty four and one three pigs do which it makes no logical sense because calvin ridley is awesome and had a great and had a great game covering excellent wide receiver. Calvin ridley is jumping into the elite tier four for wide receivers and for for fantasy players and matt ryan. Just kick it is. It is like a car engine right. You think that you have most of the parts there and one parts missing and you'll be fine and that's not how it works with a car and he just doesn't work. That way had matt ryan. It's like third down conversions. Moving the ball down the field. Something is missing from the process. Having the ball. Not be intercepted. He writes julio jones. Yeah you can't get by targeting. Powell engage in cam newton. We talked about it. The thursday night game. He he he has a stat line. It looks like it's from like a couple possessions in the first quarter sterling from the nineteen twenties football right to throw it. They would like to do. Yeah yeah the the ice bowl through the whole nineteen yards career record seven rushing into. M16 sixteen yards. Daniel fumble jones was on full display. Came back shouldn't have apparently is as bad as it gets against the zone defense. That was not good. Daniel jones is best attribute. Not just for fantasy certainly fancy but it's best attribute in real life is his Athlticism his ability to scramble. Get outside the pocket. Ron you look. On the course of the season and six carries nine carries six carries just tons of yards. He had zero carries zero yards because the hamstring issues an issue. And he's like. Oh i could just stay on the puck and throw it. I can't not no. You cannot running back stinkers now. This is not a complete stinker. But he's name. We're talking about because of what happened. Aaron jones was fifteen for sixty nine no touchdowns three targets two catches six yards now. There were huge expectations against the detroit rushing. Defense He had forty three fantasy points against them in week two so last year. Five games with less than seven points but five twenty plus point games for aaron jones. Boom-bust finished what running back two or three months. Rea- belief This year zero games less than seven points but only to twenty. Plus point games so touchdown. Regression was a theme for aaron jones. Coming into the season we know the talent is there. But you've no. I mean aaron rodgers leading the league in touchdown passes so jones did not give you a week winning week this week. Yeah but he was. He's a piece. Where views on your roster you still easily could have won with him. He was top. Twenty four running back so far barring. Tonight's game it was disappointing certainly But hopefully you got into the next round and you just keep playing them so that you can get those big multi touchdown games that he does from time to time all right Talk to me about james conner. No that if i'm out you mike talk to them. I what has happened to the pittsburgh running game. There is none i have. I don't know it's gone. it's gone and let's just use eyeballs. It's gone right. it's not just choice. It is choice. Because they mike tomlin watches james conner and then goes like he has no burst to start. The run is not a situation where you pick up speed right. There are certain running backs where it's like okay can get them ahead of speed and then they do something he just seems kind of the same speed. It's just wild. I mean you look at the way that the the season started for james conner where through week six in his first five games he had over one hundred rushing yards three times. Yeah i feel like he's been good on the season. Obviously we you know. We don't know the specifics of how everybody comes back from a bit in the sheriff first time we saw him back he didn't look how he looked pre Going on the covert. I are so you know there could be some of that. But in addition to connors Lackadaisical display is the offensive line woes. As well this offensive line. Who doesn't let big ben get sacked. Has nothing to do with them. That has to do with big ben grabbing the ball thrown it. Graham the ball. The you just can't sack someone doing that. But it seems like defenses. Have now keyed in on the pittsburgh steelers knowing okay there. He's going to get rid of the ball immediately. So we're going gonna play a different style of defense and you just can't run. The the football have been under twenty points for three straight weeks in in three the last four connor games nine for twenty two thirteen for thirty six ten for eighteen. Oh and he had a fumble in this game. And it's what you're saying like big. Ben has a lot of freedom. At the line of scrimmage and it's a super quick trigger right now to abandon the run entirely for the game. Yeah i mean ask you this chase assuming that people one with james conner now. I'm not talking to you. Obviously hard assume but yeah. Next week is the cincinnati bengals. The bengals are not as bad a rush defense as you think when you think about the dumpster fire of the bengals season and losing all their key pieces I think you you probably try to look for a pivot because if if this is the floor then the floor is not having the flow. Yeah yeah it was bad bed. The whole game problems. Josh jacobs thirteen for forty nine on the ground. Five targets three for twenty five through the air was. He's too busy trying to come up with comedy. bits suit. He delirious he deserves. You're not happy with no. He deserves a label like a like a scarlet letter. My guy label for doing that too. I if you're unaware in in those all important you know hour and a half two hours leading up to your kickoff to your sunday morning to set your lineups. You're looking at all the news coming out. And all of a sudden he tweets out or instagram's that he's not gonna play with three laugh emojis and he's like you know i'm not playing today. And adam schefters retweeting mean it goes goes fire and it's one of those things where it's like. Oh no you know. It's a quite edwards helaire situation where he's active but not gonna play. He was trolling people with that message. Or was he. Or what did he actually play. Yes he played. What the opportunity. I'm just going to call it how it is. That's a jerk move. I just think is. I don't like him can i can. I play devil's advocate. Yes try to convince me to like josh jacobs. Now i think that players and this is something we've we've spoken out against for the last five years players get. Dm's players get messages players. Get talked to. I'm sure all week long. Josh jacobs was was told. Are you playing. Are you playing fantasy team. Are you playing. Are you playing. Are you playing. And and and he's in a position where he doesn't care about your fantasy team nor he should not and and he comes out and you decides to take a shot across the bow with some you know smiley faces and some jokes and some trolling and it's not nice. But i get it from the player perspective. That's what he received. I also understand which reminder never tag players on tag never tag a play tag a player would be like dude quickey e but never take a player something negative for your fantasy football team because they they do not care and they should not care but was wild about. Sunday is josh jacobs. Didn't care about your fantasy team. And he didn't care about the. Las vegas raiders either. That was another shot. Josh jacobs well thirteen for forty nine. They fired their defense coordinator today. Okay makes sense. Maybe they should've spent some of the marcus mariota money on some defensive players. Ooh what you think about that. Todd gurley six for nineteen to for twelve through the air. I mean if you play todd gurley this week. You were desperate. Cut him on the waiver. Wire show and You should have yeah. It would made the decision easier landmine. Oh hey this segment has won like a bunch of players have one thing in common segments. Were they all started over. Mike davis For your team. Your team raheem mostert. Fourteen carries and four targets. Yeah that's nice. That's sorry that bad of a game. It really wasn't that bad of a game. Here to my davis. It was track six more points. I just needed. How are you routing selassie. James conner scores like seven math. We know the math. He just had the mike listen. How much of last night were you routing to win. And how much were you rooting for for you to lose by more than the gap between most davis. It's there is absolutely no recollection of last night I i was turned off. So there was no routing anything. Okay yeah yeah danger. Wayne twelve for fifty seven. The magic bruce wayne bruce williams and then latavius murray was irrelevant five touches their everything ties back to jason right now because he's got a d. in the dynasty playoffs. He just had player after player after player. Go down found out for net was inactive. Which shouldn't really matter to most teams but it did matter to jason. Because of injuries david johnson had been put on the covert list and he ends up having to start latavius. Murray and boston scott league i. I didn't win knows the champ. Champions league congratulates championship is over. Champ champ cannot happen all right and then let me ask. Let me ask another person. That didn't win in other leagues brooks promising start to the dynasty leagues. Well how are you feeling today. I'm all right all right all right. Yeah look when when you're when people are. You sir drips a lot because you're just swimming in High priced art jewelry. Time You you can bounce art to. Oh yeah anything. That's a value checks. Does he have a bunch of those like the glass sculptures sit on the pedals. Are they super expensive. Yeah yes faberge eggs. I've never seen so many faberge eggs in my life pays a lot for private school for his kids and he doesn't even have any kids that's right. He just wants portland. He wants to support schools. He believes in because education and the children are the future. Here's a philanthropist. That's makes me feel good level of scrutiny. What's crazy is that. All he keeps all the faberge eggs in a faberge egg room. You walk in to vote impressive shape ruling shaped room. That's how see we were confused when you and your fiancee got that place. You had a complex two bedrooms but now the fabric zags makes yes. So you're doing okay though because of all of your wealth. Good lesson here. S a good lesson for life if your sad get a bunch of money. Thank you for that hot tip. Their judge jimani mo money. No problem famous thing. I remember that one all right wide receivers. That were disappointing. Big one deal in jefferson against tampa bay secondary that had been bleeding points combined for seven catches. They both had thirty nine yards. No touchdowns i mean. There was someone on the sunday live. Who was trying to ask which one of those two players to start. My advice was make sure you get both of them in urine alone. No and i mean it's it's unbelievable because those guys had been on fire kirk cousins had been on fire and tampa bay has been literally the worst against wide receivers over the last five weeks and it was really shocking and it was a weird game plan that they came out with. If you're if you watch that game. The first quarter was dominated by minnesota. You might not think that because of the result but they basically had one drive that lasted the whole quarter all runs no passes and then everything and then it was like well. That was one idea for this game. We got nothing else then. The whole all the wheels fell off. Yeah this was hugely disappointing. Robert woods five or thirty. Two diontae johnson the two drops. What look i have diontae johnson in two important leaks one. That's now important one. That was important. I need him right. They need him. Yeah i think that last night was partially submarine by look. What do you do it. Mike tomlin we know he's very responsible. And when you come out and say if you drop passes. I'm going to put someone into the game that doesn't and then you drop passes. He can't not follow through with his word on that right or else i mean it was almost. He set the table for it right. Even before our matchup mike. You know things are looking okay. And i'm like hey listen. Don't think you'd bench the tonight outlandish right. But if he drops the first passer to you're not gonna see him and that's exactly what happened. Has the jets next week. He is their most explosive player with the ball in his hands. Came back into the game. Didn't drop anymore passes in the second half. What are you doing with him. Because he could disappear in the middle of him. Yeah i it's it's not the jets. I believe it's the banks. I'm sorry but yeah. Yeah i think that at the end of the day. This is real football that really matters and they need to win games and he's their best wide receiver. It stinks that. He's having this mental lapse in catches. He's he should be back out there. And i think that if for some reason there was a change we would hear about it before sunday. If if there hasn't been a declaration that james washington's getting the start then then. I will continue to play helton against houston or diontae johnson against cincinnati. I would have to go to hilton there. Yeah right yeah. I mean he's on fire. He's just been too good lately and you don't have the possibility of him just from getting benched chase claypool. Just three for fifteen his last three weeks wide receiver. Thirty eight seventy five and eighty two. It's going to throw into question. His viability to play him next week. Yeah and it's fair. I mean he is the deep play guy. there was still a couple of shots thrown deep. That claypool was not able to come down with. But he's the big play guy and they're doing quick line of scrimmage title passes so that that kind of rules out this is a steelers problem Do you guys realize how horrifically bad the steelers have been the last three weeks. There they were. They were Hidden behind their ten and a record wrote the last three weeks. They have yet to score twenty points in a game. I mean that's crazy. Nineteen point seventeen points fifteen points. That's like mean what are the jets scoring right. Yeah they're they're offenses in trouble right now. There's talk of i mean he's. He's throwing the ball superfast his knee. There's concern around the organization about his knee being healthy Yeah it's kinda fallen apart over this this second half right now and validating those that thought the steelers were a little overrated. They've got injuries on defense right now. Changing the way that they win they're going to have to score a little bit more and tear maclaurin to for twenty four. He dropped from fourteen points per game to eight point. Six games after after Alex smith took in week ten. It's been pretty bad from chlorine and you have seattle next week. I just don't know if i feel confident. Playing him on. You don't even know who the quarterback is it going to be haskins as it going to be alex smith. That'll be a tough decision for terry. Next week godwin. Evans and really Antonio brown didn't have impressive game either. Scotty miller stole the stole the touchstone. That's gronk got a touchdown But yeah it. It's really difficult when there. Are that many pieces. When gronk canned scotty miller cannon all three of these wide receivers can very difficult to lean on one here. I'm gonna give you some more sadness. Jason tyler lockett five for fifty two since week. Eight which was a two hundred yard game against arizona. He is averaging eight point. Three fantasy points per game. Same cage hamlet. He's been in my lineup. Every single one of those. And it's one of those things where most weeks he doesn't completely destroy. You like sixty yards fifty yards right but it stinks and and watching. The games are really frustrating. Because for some reason he's he's disappeared. I completely understand him. Becoming the number two target decay. Metcalf said look at me. I'm the number one here and that's fine but you know just watching the the plays breakdown and seeing david moore and swaying and you know it's tyler lockett is just in the fold right now of a bunch of people. Corey davis three for thirty four. Dj shark two for sixteen marvin jones for for forty eight. The corey davis lightest crazy. Disappointing with the matchup against jacksonville. Yeah but then again. The transformation is complete derrick. Henry will be terrifying everyone. His path to boom games on the air for charge otherwise only catching fifty five percent of his targets. Not pushing the button for that. Everyone else You know gardner came back into this game. He's got baltimore next week. Dj needs to be baltimore chicago to in the year safer yet. Lisa into the waiver pool that is correct It's disappointing games at the tide. Imposition of ingram two catches their catches. dallas goedert for forty. Three hayhurst one for seven jordan to thirteen and trae goose. Trae burton with just the tight end position yeah stinkers of the week presented by oda readers. Offense look these people stink. But at least i don't have stinky feet. That's right that's right. We wanna thank pristine auction. 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Week 15 Playoff Talk Episode 046

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Week 15 Playoff Talk Episode 046

"Welcome to the fantasy football overtime. Podcast i'm your host jake's isky with me as always are tyler hollerbach and matt win happy week two of the fantasy football playoffs fellas. How did you do in your matchups. This week i did well. I need six points at a nick chubb tonight to advance in one of my leagues. I'm feeling really really confident there. But twenty twenty. Anything can happen. So i'm going to wait out. My chickens correct absolutely dominated. Think i put up close to one fifty and the opponent put up ninety cheese. I'll think so that half an hour before kick-off pick up the dallas cowboys on on the waivers. And i think two minutes into the game. They had a defensive touchdown. That's old bold pickup there at the dallas d negative more games than they have positive this year. Look bet match up though nicely done. That's what it's all about and the right match ups absolutely. I am most likely going to go. One two in my matchups. This week i had a few by weeks and have a tight one with mark andrews. Hollywood brown this monday evening. I'm up five points as well so interesting. What side do you like mine. I have mark andrews. I like your odds to mark andrews over marquees brown any day of the week young calming fifty point marquees brown game if he gets fifty than i really won't care because it'll be over early. Peaking hollywood do you know what they'd like to drink. And hollywood white clause beer. They like to drink beer there. Matt you brought us some some good well. I won't say we haven't tried it yet. But supposedly good beer. Yeah we're gonna try it right now. Shoutout to brad adrian at adrian brewing company based out of the twin cities for delivering his newest beer to the f. f. o. T. podcast for us to try tonight. So here we go fellas. Let's try out here. We go yom delicious stuff to our listeners. If you enjoy beer. Check out his company on facebook. Adrian brewing company delicious stuff. He's an awesome guy. Check them out and give him some love little heavy for for my wimpy taste but it's not bad for darker beer. Yeah it's good. It's a nice thicker ale. I like it. it's probably not even aol. It's probably like a porter divided by sour. I liked the word ale better. Well fellas we got a big potential record-breaking conversation to have here and it's around derrick henry he's now at one thousand five hundred thirty two rushing yards on the season. We all know the nfl record set by eric dickerson at two thousand one hundred and five yards. So what that means is derrick. Henry would need to rattle off five hundred seventy three yards over his final three games to break the record so he would need to average one hundred ninety one rushing yards per game. He does close out the season with detroit. Green bay in houston. Who are the three bottom run. Defenses in the nfl. He's currently averaging five point two yards per carry on the season you would need eighty-six carries at six point seven yards per carry to break the record. Can he do it. will he do it not a chance. Not a chance. He falls ten yard. Short finishes third all time behind. Adrian be one yard behind peterson outlets my bold prediction there. No i don't think he gets. It is just too much. i mean. He's going to run over these guys. It's gonna come really close. But i don't see that that that those are huge numbers. I don't see it either. He would need to basically replicate the game. He just had where he went for. Two hundred and fifteen yards essentially each of the next three weeks. But i do see him breaking the two thousand mark. I believe there's only nine players in nfl history to do it so either way quite the season for derrick henry and it'll be exciting to watch to see if he can get there. I think the big thing there is. Tennessee is probably gonna lock up a playoff spot before week. Seventeen so rest. They're big boys. Yeah they're division. Though is open up in the air with the colt so they may not have the luxury of doing that depends on how much they value that home game. So it's these next couple of years. There is there that much of a home game advantage this year. I mean you don't have to travel covid ever. No i'm sure there's still is just not as significant as it normally is. There's a lot to be said about sleeping in your bed. Not having to sleep. The hotel are their fans in tennessee. Games and other are an indie. There might be you never know or is it that fake crowd noise. I don't know over fake crowd to get rid of it. It was weird watching the vikings game and hearing actual fans in tampa bay this week. A lot of times. A fake noise is louder than it would be if people are there. And it's like hard. Even hear the announcers. I'm not a fan of it You guys talk about the new orleans defense and how they hadn't allowed one hundred yard rusher and fifty six games prior to sunday. Can you name the running back. I saw it on twitter. But i'm not sure who it was. No clue somali. J. p. rhyme. Yes oh you're correct. Yeah that is what was so maget. Good for something. Once on sunday though the philadelphia eagles had two players. Rush for over one hundred yards was both miles. Sanders and jalen hurts. Sorry to everybody on twitter that we told to sit miles sanders. Everything seemed like it was stacked against them. We're standing behind that decision to bench him but it did not work out. I'm gonna even go as far as saying we're not sorry. Every everything was there all the data points for there to sit miles sanders. It's true. I just want to deliver on their the sound nice. Yeah i wanted deliver advice. That's going to win people leagues and unfortunately that's just that one didn't work out but we stand behind it because it had all of the ingredients to be a poor outing from al sanders. I'll even take it this far. I started geo over sanders. Yikes pr mr fumble on the first touch and getting benched. I i f- mr geo bernard thank you all right so we just saw what jalen hurts. Did to the new orleans saints phenomenal run defense. Are you guys buying it against the cardinals in week. Fifteen cardinals are significantly. Worse than the saints. When it comes to quarterbacks and running backs is jalen hurts all of a sudden in the picture for starting in the playoffs. Negative not proven on enough for me. Geelen hurts or tatum hill. Ooh t some hail going against casey's defense minnesota just just again week fifteen. I'd go taste some hill. Yeah i just bring it up because tastes might not even play like. We don't know if drew breeze comes back for ensure or not. But i think that's the conversation like they're the same player like they both have that rushing upside both are more likely to rush for a touchdown to throw for one. Tease him hills. Probably gonna be more of a shootout. But i don't think he's a good passer still so i think they're very similar conversation. I'm just gonna stick with mitch. Trubisky is on like every waiver. He is your playoff winner. I'm certain taste hill over mitch. Trubisky personally i would not a chance i am and i mean it depends if tastes hill obviously starts or not but it sounds like the saints are going to be careful with drew brees but if he gets the start at home against kansas city where to just put up twenty eight points against kansas city. Last week i would be a lot more comfortable. Starting tastes hill. Can they afford to start hill. Though they have a must win game against kansas city. They are a two seat right now. Green bay has the number one seed for the by it all depends on health if breezes healthy. He's obviously playing but if he's not they're not risking losing him in the playoffs because they rushed him back when he had a bunch of fractured ribs. I'd say if drew brees is eighty five percent healthy. I'm starting him. But obviously i don't run the saints. Their starting at eighty five percent. Yeah they said that they're not starting unless he's at one hundred but that's probably just the the coach talk coach talk for sure. Big ben plays monday night on the road against cincinnati. He's failed to break twenty points now in four consecutive games. You really hasn't played while on the road either but the good news for big ben owners. His biggest game of the season did come against the bengals and week ten. Are you starting big ben this week. Yeah absolutely i feel like a half to say yes the bengals but he looked so bad on monday again on sunday night. Excuse me against the bills. Keep so look bad or was it. His receivers both had ton drops which it's normal and their games. Now if they catch those balls it's a completely different game. It is but his fantasy flick isn't that you know they'd have their shorter. They have to run for a lot of yards. You know but he is not throwing the ball very well. He doesn't throw the ball past five yards and when it does has zero zip or at least it did. On sunday there was snow some sleet. You know whatever happening. But he doesn't look very good as a thirty eight year old quarterback now. I started daniel jones over god. No big ben. Now you starting mitch. Trubisky big ben. That's that's mischievous dude. That's his shot it down last week. He destroyed watson. What was the top three quarterback. He's going against minnesota. Bears have a ton of playoff winning capability with it. There's no doubt. I would lock them in at a top five quarterback. Well i can tell you're confident. That's why i'm asking because you said that you'd absolutely start big ben and you love trubisky. So which one would you start if you had to pitch to. I would start. Risk over big ben. But i am more top. Twelve with trubisky than top-five collar is minnesota also held. Tom brady to sixteen fantasy points. I think tom brady is a much more. Viable fantasy quarterback than mitch. Trubisky can't throw the ball. Trubisky can also show up tomorrow and throw three interceptions. But i three passes so. That's my caveat with trubisky as we know he's capable of these games. He's put up six touchdowns before but he is also very likely to get benched at halftime with his poor play. Minnesota is a run of the mill average defense. And you don't know which one is going to show up. Yeah we're such a hit and miss yes. I'm gonna put my money again. I would like to i like mitch. Top twelve qb but not dot five. How about derek carr overs last two games. He's averaging twenty nine fantasy points per game. He's throwing for seven hundred yards and combined for seven total touchdowns we expected that the game against the jets but it was really nice to see him. Blow up against colts. Where do you guys rate him on week. Fifteen at home on short rest against charters. I like him. Because josh jacobs does not look like speaking of like another player just when he's on the field he does now and he's kind of addict to fantasy play. What was that all about a hundred percent. Josh jacobs is on my twenty twenty. One do not draft list because he such a douche to fantasy owners like i get it. You don't care about fantasy football you play the game. Whatever but why. We such a douche about it. If you're not familiar with what jay talking about on his instagram. He posted that he would not be playing in the week fourteen matchup and then of course he ended up playing and he was fine. Well and he put a troll out there and then put middle finger. Modine said f. Your fantasy teams like dude. Do you know what the problem the problem is with it. Do you know where all this money comes from. Yeah the popularity. The nfl comes from fantasy. You'll not be making a hundred of what he's making if it wasn't for the hand that feeds you and fantasy football feeds into the nfl salaries like josh jacobs. Go to hell. And i love on the other side of the ball on thursday. Night is austin ekeler. Who's the exact opposite. He sits there and talks on his twitter. About wanting to perform for his fantasy players he puts out tweets just congratulating fantasy owners for starting like. he's all about the fantasy community. Juju kenyan drake both love their fantasy. That's all they came on. Yeah they care about people that are watching the game cheering for because of fantasy. Football and josh jacobs tells everyone to go to hell all right in the last quarterback. I wanna talk about that. I kind of view as a fringe quarterback going into the playoffs. Jared goff. it's coming off a bad game in which he only threw for one hundred and thirty seven yards that was mainly because cam akers continued his emergence. He went for hundred and ninety some yards on the ground. So i'm expecting the rams to blow out the jets. Is it going to be with cam. Akers in that running game. Or do you guys see jared goff getting back on track through there is going to be cam akers and their running game or is it going to be darrell henderson. Malcolm brown is it going to be a me ever at game. Or is it going to be cooper. Kupp getting twenty receptions. Yeah you never know for sure with with mcveigh in that offense. But i'd say it's a group effort kind of like what seattle did y'all ross. Put up four touchdowns threw for two hundred yards so i could see los angeles dominating this game first off. It's going to be a similar score. I wouldn't be surprised. If higby everett acres and henderson had the four touchdowns like i would not be one bit surprised if each of them scored. You're gonna need to have a good first half because you know that defense. That run game is going to get a lot of fantasy points. They're going to get a lot of points in the actual game itself so if gough gets off to a slow first half. That's not going to be good because they're not going to be thrown much into the second-half already need darnold to get off to a blazin. Start get up. By like three touchdown. That'd be awesome. I was just gonna ask. What's what happens. More of rams touchdowns or rams sax on sam darnold ram sacks. I honestly think the rams defense might scores many touchdowns as darnold throws in that game. I like a big thing though. You definitely learn when you become more advanced. Like in. Like dr king's like dfs goth can have the best match up against the jets. But does sam darnold have enough to keep them in the game. Where jared goff is throwing it. so that's why you have to look for in the absolutely. I mean look at last week russ wasn't had four touchdown. You assume that he would be a top five fantasy quarterback of the week and he probably barely cracked the top ten because he only for two hundred yards. Like it's a smash matchup but if you play half the game you know trying you only get half the staff absolutely like i would not be surprised if goth through five passes in the second half all right. Let's move onto the running back position. We kinda just covered cam akers. I want to talk about todd gurley. He's averaging only eight touches over his last three games which has resulted in a total of twelve fantasy points so he's averaging four points per game over the last three weeks now. He faces a five run defense in tampa. I am sitting him in every possible league. I can. I'll do you want better. Cut him just get rid of them. Just get rid of him. He's only on the field thirty six percent of the time now so that niyaz obviously acting up even if he falls into the end zone. He gives you a floor of six points. Yeah do not fall for his first eight games and think that it might come back. Gary todd gurley. Don't let him ruin your fantasy season in week. Fifteen tell you what. I'd rather have frank gore on my roster ben todd gurley. Yeah that there's saw a chance to break off a run. I don't know frank gore of rain. Forty are dre. Yeah that'd probably be a career high de andrea swift. He returned after three game absence. He had seven rushes for twenty four yards and a touchdown. He also had four receptions for twenty six yards. Good for fifteen fantasy points. It was good to see him involved in back in the lineup. Has he returned to a must start in week. Fifteen verse tennessee for you guys or you. Hesitate with that injury. So does matthew stafford plan. Yes then i'm more inclined to start swift if stafford doesn't play. I want no one on lions furniture degree. You actually answered your question for me. Add up the amount of receptions and rushing attempts that he had eleven. Yeah not a chance. I want any piece of somebody who's coming back. Who only eleven touches. Like i said if stafford's back i could see his volume increasing as he gets a little healthier. Maybe maybe and he's the best pass catching running back. I would say in a losing effort. I would like staffer but if they have frigging chase daniels. No i want nothing to do with that offense fifteen points on eleven touches. That's that's that's pretty efficient so for about where his is going to be if they're gonna continue to split with. Ap in hopes is that he's just more healthy and they take off the field and actually carry on johnson to your if you start swift. You're definitely banking on his volume increasing. Because it's really tough to start somebody that had eleven touches so if you start him. You are more confident than we are that he will see his volume uptick in week. Fifteen nyheim hines. Jonathan taylor has officially arrived. Hines is still averaging thirteen. Fantasy points per game over his last three weeks despite. Jt's emergency you comfortable throwing hines into your starting lineup in week. Fifteen against a bad houston run. Defense no i think taylor runs through them. I don't see heinz like he's still going to be on the field like fling. Frankly lakes to use him regardless of situation things like that. But i think taylor has taken over the backfield. I was actually gonna ask you awake. Would you do hines or swift. Which one do you feel more comfortable with. I'd rather start heinz. I mean he's still averaging thirteen fantasy points per game over the last three weeks even with jt. Getting a ton of volume. I think against houston to hines is still going to be involved. But i think over the last four weeks. Both of them are in the top ten running. Backs hines and taylor. I would have a hard time. Benching hines for swift especially against houston. Houston trendy is so bad that there's room for both jt and hines to have big fancy performances. I look at it more as i think. Indy takes an early lead. It when you have an early lead. You don't get very creative. You typically just kind of run straight ahead. which taylor wilkins. More game is my reasoning behind that. I'm leading swift. Swift has a higher upside to. So that's the way i would lean. I don't know about higher upside. I think hines put up some thirty point game. I mean he has but they've been in very competitive games like the way. I see this game going. I don't see heinz being on the field. So our coxless. What's up if coke's swiss. I still think. Indy just controls the game so much that they're not going to have to be creative like heinz will get assuming he's gonna be eight to ten touches. You'd probably gonna be in the same ballpark of what swift is. But i think swift could catch eight passes to like if they're trailing. I see that game being very very like favored that they are down. So i just think it's a reversal. The roles are reversed where swift as the pass. Catcher in. heinz is gonna be stuck running the ball catching the ball is more fantasy beneficial. All right you guys. It's time for the weekly ezekiel elliott discussion. He has failed to break double digit points. In five of seven weeks. They play san fran at home in week. Fifteen he's failed to break twenty receiving yards in any game since week six. What do we do with ezekiel elliott. Start his handcuff. would you listen to joni caller. No i laugh because we talked about it earlier. Like tony pollard. Looks like the running back. You can't actually start him though can you. You can't start either. I wouldn't either one either one of them. No but if you if you had pollard on non zeke team i could see started in like your flex straight up though you guys are starting tony paula. Over hezekiel elliott. If you have both and you need to start on probably the. I don't mind kunas. Aren't that big. No mine aren't either. I'm still going elliott. But would i be surprised if pollard. Outscored them no. I would be trying so hard to play any other habits. Like i will probably pick up frank gore and start him over those two. That's where i'm at at this point when i don't get as how your production falls off so much like we obviously know that they lost dak prescott to injury but dallas went out and paid a lot of money to bring andy dalton to be a capable. Backup in. zeke has gone from like a top five running back to you literally. Can't even start him. I think it's on disea- it's not on dalton. Dalton was mixing was fine with dalton last year. it's their offense wine to it's just. It is ton injury. Yeah this is the worst offensive line. Zeke's ever had to run behind and teams aren't afraid of andy dalton by any means so they're low up on him cowboys. Offense is pretty clear. I intend. They're probably gonna run the ball. So i don't think they've favors zeke and any but they just refuse to pass them the ball. That's what i don't get. Yeah you're gonna need more than the twenty receiving yards of ezekiel elliott. He hasn't had it since week. Six like they gotta get ezekiel elliott. Involved i will start. Eating hines or zeke. Just given our past conversations sure but like just to put it in perspective for me. Like i was talking down on hindsight i would start him over zeke any day of the week right now. Where's your zeke line. It's low like it. It's very low. I'm predicting zeke around. Rb twenty four to rb white. Our take him over james. Wait Trying to find a darrell henderson. I'm going elliott over henderson. devin singletary it. All for sure over him. Zack moss. I think is the starter. Probably he'll what's over. Go but that's because geos burned me. I put in twenty range though like it. It it's a tough. it's a tough ranking for him because like you his name does carry him just a little bit higher than rankings bullet. It shouldn't like if you just take raw data. He would be so far down. But i know the names. Jeff wilson or zeke elliott. That's a very good one elliott. That's a very good one. Because jeff has probably a higher chance of scoring a touchdown. The thing is when you sit ezekiel elliott. And he goes for one hundred yards in two touchdowns. And you're just sitting there looking at yourself over. Jeff wilson who just put up two points and you're like i mean it's the miles sanders conversation from last week. It's not like as by smash of a defensive matchup but that was mile sanders kareem hunt. I'm just saying like zeke's low like at dobbins starting over him like regardless and dobbins in a three headed map like backfield. Like i'm starting dobbins over zeke. Oh i thought you were going zeke. Over dobbin like crazy lenny. If roe joe's announced out. I'd probably take lenny over zeke. What lenny's a healthy scratch again. I'm not taking on. We'll take see. Let's move on all right. Wide receivers t. y. Hilton your last three games. He has seventeen receptions. Two hundred seventy seven yards and four touchdowns they play houston this week in. Ty hilton's eighteen game career against the houston. Texans is ninety eight receptions seventeen hundred yards and eleven touchdowns he absolutely shreds the houston. Texans he is a must start in week fifteen. How must start some producer. You have a little dilemma on your side. And do i say that. He's a must start. And i almost don't know if i can start him. Because i have deandre hopkins. Aj brown and calvin ridley. I really wanna find a way to get to you. i- hilton. I m almost guaranteeing in eight reception hundred yard touchdown. Game out of t y hilton. But how do you sit hopkins ridley or aj brown only. Yeah only. yeah only one. I can make for readily but i still shut down jefferson. The yeah but. I talked about those for listeners. Like listening to this forty year. Crushing of houston t. Hell bent on matter happened. He's defense yeah. It doesn't matter half of the this defense is completely different. All the andrew across quarterback for nine of those games. Kobe broussais completely different. Obviously players do play. Well against defenses. There are just those occasions. Marvin jones shreds the vikings. For whatever reason you. Ty has our play it more than houston's defense against wide receivers bad. i t. y. hilton. I mean two weeks ago. They played houston and he went. For one. hundred ten yards and a touchdown he's in the midst of a dominant three game stretch. But i think it's just a a psychological thing like they were talking to you i- hilton about this upcoming game. And he was just beaming with joy. He's like i love playing the texans. I can't wait let's go. You know what happens when somebody gets to the other way. Yeah you went for eight receptions one hundred ten yards and also say this too is that was when they had bradley roby and he's gone now to because he was suspended the same time fuller was and he was their best coverage corner so stars are aligned for you i think it has i think it is too good game for sure i would not start over your three unless you re dominant wide receivers find a way to get t y hilton. You start them over ridley. I don't know if i'm there. With julio out matt ryan being subpar tampa bay. Idris coming off if you told me julio was out i would lean that way. Go back and forth on this decision for the next couple of days. If julio's in ridley lead plays better. With julio on the field so i would i would then play ridley. But of julio's out. I would think i would lean t y all right. Let's move on to chase claypool. He's a player who has seen his fantasy production decrease in five straight games. He's failed to break six fantasy points in each of his last two games like we talked about with big band. He plays on monday night against cincinnati. Do you guys see him delivering. Or has the emergence of eric ebron combined with a healthy diontae johnson and juju kind of cut into chase claypool. Fantasy production is he gonna hold onto the ball and catch balls. Are any of those wide receivers gonna catch balls. I i think it's bad news. If any of them drop it. Because mike tomlin is a is a no nonsense guy. They will be benched if yeah already danced onto who has been their best receiver. Benched him for real with tomlin is now some of this one dr type of guy it an entire happy bench diontae johnson who's been their best receiver. He dropped two passes. He benched him hard like it. It's scary time to own pittsburgh. Steelers wide receiver. I think if you're in the claypool situation you got him super late. Hopefully you have other options against cincinnati. And which is our thought lost on band. You know borderline starting. Qb like the shabby a decent fantasy game. We think do you put claypool at is a boom bust. Flex yes yeah. He's not going to be your wide receiver to the is going to be that flex consideration like he's a type of person. Where like. I'm holding out making a flex decision. As late as i possibly can. If i'm down. Forty going into monday night. I'm throwing claypool. Because he's the only one that can actually get that many points like type thing he could go for zero or he could go for like thirty. My key could marvin jones or chase claypool. I like the upside of claypool more. But you and i play fantasy different. You like the safety typically. I'm a little bit more. Risk advert Risk out you like to take risks. Yeah i will take those chances. Paul beesley or chase claypool. So it's not it's not fair. I actually liked kobe. I mean for me. I'm going with chase claypool in week. Ten he had four receptions for fifty six yards and two touchdowns so he actually had his second best fantasy game on. The season was at against cincinnati. But the the only thing that. I'm worried about as big ben on the road. Like historically and this year. He just hasn't been as good on the road as he is at home completely. Run game has gone for pittsburgh. They're just gonna pass Synthetic like why wouldn't you again. Since what do they have five. Juju klay poll washington johnson ebron brown and the oneplus thing we talk about all these drops like fdr as the one that drops it. That's more playing time for everybody else. But yeah cls snaps. Don't look like they're cleared decrease. Here tyler brings up a good point though if you have claypool. He's definitely not somebody that you drafted early so you either picked him up or you drafted him at the very end of your draft so hopefully you still have your your main wide receiving corps intact but if you don't i mean there's been a ton of injuries so if you are a full of injuries right now on your i mean you can definitely put chase claypool in your lineup. Chris godwin or claypool. I'd go chris. Godwin they should shred. The atlanta falcons secondary. Yeah i'm trying to find a way to get as many bucks. Can't pass catchers into my lineup as i can trade antonio brown i to been two leagues and i have to make that decision. Forget injuries. I just don't like that because it's not a consolidated target share. Ej brown and corey davis back kind. That's so concentrated. I'm glad you bring up corey davis because he's actually who's next on my list in is because we hyped them up last episode and he rewarded that height with five fantasy points against jay but he gets a depleted secondary in detroit in week. Fifteen so is henry's volume and production right now along with. Aj brown just too much for for corey davis to continue thriving or can you have a bounceback week or the four tight ends. That tennessee is picking between. Yeah i i would. Still fire corey davis. Yeah it's a concentrated offense. It was the same thing we were talking about. would you with jonnu. They don't have enough volume to cater to all the pastures. All three in this instance with henry getting his run volume so hopefully they get away from the titans and they go to davis and brown. Speaking of the titans is. Aj brown like made out of titanium or something or like rubber bands. Has he always seems to get banged up but still play. I feel like he suffered a season ending injury every single game. You lose your breath. You're panicked and then all of a sudden j. Brian comes back on the field. Techs you curse words all frustrated with aj in egypt browns back in the lineup. all right. yeah. I'm surprised you still some tax because it's literally like five plays later. He's back in the game of mexico. Never mind false alarm. It's a non contact injuries laying on the ground like writhing in pain. his ankle bent. Like seventy four degrees. Doesn't look good. aj browns. You said he's he's a freeze made a something else. What it is Nelson aguilar one of the biggest boom and bust players all season long. He's at three games over twenty fantasy points and he said six games under ten fantasy points. So which nelson agholor shows up on thursday night will the real nelson agholor. Please stand up. I love nelson agholor like. He's my you hilton for you. Like i wanna find ways to get into my lineup. He's the clear number two behind waller. We talked we talked about earlier. Josh jacobs is pretty inefficient at the run game right now. they've had pass a lot more chargers. Not a good pass. Defense like likenesses prime to be another nelson agholor week. It's going to be the boomer blast he's gonna put up twenty or he's going to put up four. Yeah what i like. Now is the targets. Before it was hughes literally touchdown her boss because he was getting three targets a game and keep camp catch very well. I admit that but now he's getting nine targets like you cannot shy away from nine targets are at the last wide receiver. I wanna talk about is definitely the biggest name on this list. And its tyler. Lockett averaging nine fantasy points per game over his last three weeks in fact since his fifty three point explosion in week seven. He's only had one game over thirteen fantasy points. He hasn't scored a touchdown since week. Three aside from the arizona cardinals. What are we doing with tyler. Lockett right in the pine against washington the best against wide receivers only given up twenty one points to wide receivers combined. There's nothing that says. You have to start tyler lockett if you look at it in a vacuum without names you would think it's bbc johnson. It's not not that bad. Not quite that bad. he don't top ten wide receiver. And if you take out that fifty three point week like all of a sudden he is not anywhere near. Starting i agree. He's nowhere near like a must start. Lineup lock anymore. he's a boom bust. Flex yeah might like. You're he has no safety like yeah he's gonna get you probably what three catches for sure. But he can still put up fifty points. We've seen him do it. Mike russell trusts him. That's the number one thing washington's defenses a is outstanding like they're going to bottle up the run i feel like too so by seattle is going to move the ball somehow some way. It just isn't a matter of all decay or is it all lock it or mixture you know. What have you but i like lock boom-bust play. Yeah it's so true though. Like if you look at tyler lockett. He's a top ten wide receiver. And you hear his name and it's like of course they're starting his tyler lockett but when you actually break it down and look at his game by game like he literally hasn't been very good this season aside from the monster game. that's why i wish like fantasy sites. Well actually. I don't be as it makes it easier for me but fantasy sites to actually break it down like instead of putting tyler lockett s two hundred fantasy points. You want more breakdown per game. Almost tyler consistency. Yeah are you. Would you rather win one out of seven weeks. Because that's what tyler lockett is probably doing your lineup. If you're starting on every week japan's is it this week. Like is he going for fifty this week because then yeah i want it but i had one hundred percent. You have to get to this point. You know to to have this conversation but to put in perspective. Ti nelson angler. I'm starting over title. Yes yeah. I'm starting t y hilton. One hundred percent over nelson agholor. I'd be on the fence. You're you're a little higher on him than i am. Dj shark target tyler. Lockett even with you coming back shark has just awful like the end against baltimore. Hasn't clicked this year chart godal bench. All right tyler. You talked about the million tight ends in tennessee. A little bit is jonnu smith even included in that million titans anymore he is but when you have four tight ends when you have jonnu pruitt sworn and i four tight ends that can all catch the ball and the titans. Don't throw it enough. i can't start jonnu. are we benching him over. Some random streamers or is it only if you have a a reliable backup tight end on your roster that you're sitting them. There's probably one coming into playoffs. That is available probably in most leagues. Dan arnold yeah he'll be available in almost every league and play like he is getting a little bit of volume. Logan thomas is a name. That's probably still might be out there. I think he's probably rostered on both lowest by now. Don't scholtz tight end. There's no reason to start. Jonnu or any of the four tightens there. Here's another name for ya. Harrison bryant if hooper has to miss any more time at the name that i like more than the jonnu cardi hooper was just ruled inactive for this week to yeah for monday but for talking for week fifteen yeah. Ds lease come in. Come in through easy. Matchup is one. That's probably only rosser and five percent leagues at the one position. That washington does not cover. Apparently tight ends for whatever reason. How about dalton. Scholtz you guys. He's had three plus receptions six straight games but he's failed to break sixty yards in any of them and you only as one touchdown since week four. They got san fran this week. Who's giving up eleven fantasy points per game to the tight end position. Are we kind of at the point with dalton scholtz where he's probably only tight end and you just accept that he's gonna give eight or nine points outside the top four tight ends. You're probably saying whatever. I get out my position like tight end. I don't really care. Like i'm looking for a better match up. Well the yeah. That's part of. It is fifteen tight ends on the waivers. One of them is better than dalton. Show herb smith. Absolutely like i would start irv over him if rudolph's harrison bryant other name like those names looking for but yeah. I like when you're past when you get past kelsey waller andrews in probably robert tanya at this point like he's proven be consistent like you're punting position. Whatever you get is you're happy with and then you're gone looking at game script. And what is the highest over under. Yeah and what's the highest team total because the tight end. Is there a volume game while those are the ones that are in the top. Four or five. Otherwise it's a touchdown dependent. So whichever team has the higher total. That's what you're taken. Just hope. In the chance of catching and touchdown and somebody with a a lower point total right. You're flipping a coin. Essentially all right. The last pair of tight ends. And i wanna talk about. Are the rams. Tight ends tyler. Higby and gerald everett you guys. I think we finally see tyler. Higby game no team has given up more fantasy points per game to the tight end position than the jets. Give up seventeen per week. I think tyler higby finds the end zone this week. Good luck with that sir. I knew tolerate that even if he hasn't touched down. It's still considered a tyler. Higby weakling i think every i think every gets fry it touch on to like i i could see both of them shredding. The jets like i could see having the better game but also who scores the most points against the jets. The wide receivers the running backs which the data and all of the defense does. It's gonna be a rough week. And i'm sorry you lost higby. Just yes all those blazing wings are gonna be good had some buffalo wings today. That were really really hot. We're buffa q. Wings barbecue mixed in there was very little barbecue that was heavy buffalo sauce and they were hot. I can't wait for this. And i was thinking about the blaze tyler. Hague jersey to wear while doing it no. I don't want that anymore. He let me down. It'd be matt jersey wall of shame. Is tyler higby. He was the number one player that i was most wrong about. Twenty twenty without a doubt. Yeah looking at minos. Probably gonna kenyan drake. But he's really turned around not as bad as what he was. He's not as good as what. I in heaven kenyan. Drake coming into playoffs right now. Oh yeah but i if you found alternate. I had very long expectation him so he's Rb one but not top. five any defenses. We like going into week. Fifteen i i mean we talked about the rams but i absolutely love the rams d. I picked him up in week. Fourteen to stash them. I'm actually starting the rams de over the steelers against the bengals to really good ups. It's kind of a tough call. But the rams ds gordon three straight weeks at home against the jets. It's going to be a fun week to own the rams defense it depends though. Because we're we're thinking acres is going to blow up for like seven thousand yards. Think higby and eber at each going to score touchdowns winner the jets can even have the ball like the rams are going to control the pace of the game. So the the time of possession and it's going to be fifteen minutes for the jets and forty five for the rams. Yeah but don't underestimate. How many interceptions and sack. Sam darnold taken fits. I could very easily see the jets putting three points again. This vegan getting sacked six times. Yeah arrays that. Pays your your defense right there. I see another forty two three jets loss coming this week and i would not be surprised at all if the rams defense score. I think they're going to score for the fourth straight week like seattle's defense and washington especially with haskins potentially being the starter. Also like the box facing the falcons do like buffalo facing denver. Drew lock is good for at least one turnover also potentially to the colts de against houston if If no brandin cooks To shawn watson has been getting sacked allow lately been trying to run around and do a lot more on his legs been running into a few sacks so they might be good for a few points there too. What a dark horse. One patriots defense taken onto last time that bill bill check poi face a rookie. Qb they put up forty five points so defense played a very good game. We believe in the bill check narrative or to. I mean to actually look. He did look good. Dissent against the chiefs but k. bin laden. Herbert does a fantasy star by just straight up awful. Yeah i was going to finish. That sentence with. Bill is a mask in normally finds a way to get two rookie. Quarterbacks you know the fancy defense nobody ever talks about the falcons washington. I've actually had them for most of my season. I put i mean they might not win games. They might give the the forty five points but lots of sex. They got three touchdowns in their last three games. They're defensive line is very good. Yeah we've talked about. That's going to wrap up this week's episode now. They're they're playoff matchup. Hopefully the u Win your match up. I know we're in the semi-final so skin get down there. You know down to four teams. After this week he'll be down to the championship so not everyone can win. Unfortunately but best of luck to everyone out there. If you're still in it out this is what it's all look dig deep find a way to win and not everybody can win but not everybody listens to the f. o. 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The QB Scho Show #18: Setting Expectations For Carson Wentz

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The QB Scho Show #18: Setting Expectations For Carson Wentz

"Welcome into the QB's go show. This is episode eighteen brought to you by the fine folks at SP nation and bleeding green Asian. I am your host Michael kissed. You can follow my work at bleeding green nation dot com. Follow me on Twitter at Michael kissed NFL. That's K. I S T here with me as always breakdown quarterbacks around the league in the draft is QB one in my heart. He is marks go field. Mark. Hey door, brother. I'm doing good buddy Dula dune well excited too excited about today's topic. We're gonna hit a bunch of different than so that's going to be fun. It was kicked off with a bit of a sort of historical reference that I wanna talk about prime minister's question guy. Carrie Johns, if you haven't seen them if you have a watched they actually air on C span, it's a part of the British parliament where every Wednesday. The members of parliament gets ask the prime minister question, Robin Williams, actually described parliament as congress with three drank minimum. And that's basically what it is. I mean, if you wanna see lawmakers, just like yelich each other. It'd be rude. I mean, prime minister's questions is fantastic at it actually dates back to like the eighteen eighties. They started doing this. But it used to be I could be like any day anytime any session of parliament than it was short until like twice a week. Churchill did that on Tuesdays and Thursdays? And then Tony Blair actually change it to the cart format, which is Wednesday at noon, one thirty minute session. And did you know Mr. kiss that regardless of everything else that they talk about? There is always one question that is asked I and that question is this Mr Speaker, what are the prime ministers? Engagements for the debt. Basically, Joe, what are you doing and what they have to do that? Because at tees up like if he is engaged in a couple of different things, and they get to like frame their questions around that. It's a tricky thing about parliamentary law, but I'm miss questions. They're fantastic. They're super funny to watch. They usually air like on C span, they re air it like Sunday nights at like eleven thirty back when I was a lawyer like the lasted, I would walk before going to bed was I would watch prime minister's question because I'd feel a little bit better about my life is at least I wasn't doing that. No. Those are absolutely hysterical. And you're going to hear some audio of that gentle listeners because we took some questions from you about our topic today. We're talking all about Carson Wentz. We're going to take some of your questions you're going to hear some fantastic, prime minister questions. We're going to call it, the what was it the prime listeners rivington listeners questions, I believe and we demand or. I love him ended. They're just it's it's like, the the rabble rabble rabble from south park. And he's in the middle of it. Just just auto. Did you see the thing because they've got the whole Brexit thing going on? And we don't need to go down that road. But there was a member of parliament that stole the Mace. Did you see this? They have like this huge like ornamental Mace that they like, you know, it's like a big poll. It's it's basically like a festival, and you can't have a session of congress. I mean, our session of parliament unless that is their apparently because it like it's supposed to sort of it stands for the crowd. Right. The crowd is there. So we can actually discuss debate. So the dude just jacked it and walked down, and they have they couldn't have the session of parliament eventually order to back. You can find it on YouTube. It's amazing. But like, yeah, with Brexit right now pilot is just it's almost much watch TV that maze thing as like some Florida, man stuff. And I know you'll see the Florida man tweet out there where you put your birthday into Google. And and Florida man like type out Florida, man. And then you take the headline and your that Florida, man. And Mark I got Florida man gets second victory at the supreme court, which is a hero's tail an underdog channel areas. Areas. Like, first of all the rest of us alcoholics out, here are very very appreciative that you won your case to get alcoholism like defined as a disability. They will. We're all we're all happy for you, buddy. There was another headline in there in that same search that was Florida man chugs beer during a DUI. I got I got Florida, man. Don Spiderman mask during liquor store robbery and the other one was Florida arrested after fight over straw at McDonalds which. How that can happen. I live in Florida. It happens like that could have been like multiple birthdays. I think a lot of people got the those two specifically I mean, and then you're looking through the Google searches for the one that stood out to me. And I sent you this article I noticed the headline from the Miami Herald it reads quote, Jacksonville baseball team to host Florida, man night, unquote. It's a special lawbreaking night being held by the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp. I can't make this up. They claim that they will attempt to break a weird Florida law every inning. The team tweeted out that there will be lawyers in the house. Other promotions include several other theme nights, like the world's largest cocktail sauce party Roman noodle night have points a pumpkin spice night on April thirty seven the other one that I love in June two thousand sixteen there was you might be the Father's Day where they handed out pregnancy test. So you could find out if you are pregnant in the bathroom of Jacksonville jumbo shrimp. Zada story, you would tell your. Kids some day. Mommy, when did you find out that you were going to have a baby while we went to a promotional died at the Jacksonville jumbo shrimp. And they were just handed out pregnancy tests, and you are little bundle of joy that baby. Is just another future. Florida, man. He totally understands it. Nothing stands out as a regular for him. You know, it's Mazen in the article that Miami Herald piece, there's a video dumb criminals, Florida edition accomplish it video show and civil Florida's dumbest criminals in action, and it's two minutes laude, and it's worth every second Ivy. If there is an Oscar for short clip compilation video this should win. Yeah. Just put in put in Florida man to eighteenth. That's my birthday and you'll see that in like the top five results. It's amazing Mark. We should talk about quarterbacks. Right. We should. I guess it's this job on football. So it's it's not the Florida banned show is the Carson would show. It's all about once we're taking a break from the draft talk. And we're going to talk about the future of the eagles at the quarterback position. We dug into some film, we sniffed around the analytics it's time to talk about what we saw from whence in two thousand eighteen what we expect in two thousand nineteen and I'll tell you this more coming into the season last year. I had agreed with the sentiment that was out there. It was floating around that Wentz would see a statistical regression of source, which I'll tell you. It wasn't exactly popular at the time of publication. But there was plenty of reason to suggest that he might not see the same just bombastic production. First off his touchdown percentage. In two thousand seventeen seven point five percent led the league by nearly a full percentage point nine percent. Just a wild number only, Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson top that last year, you have to go all the way back to two thousand fourteen before you get another number that tops it which funnily enough. Was Tony Romo? What I'm saying? Is here that's a top four number in the past five years. So regressions shouldn't be shouldn't have been out of the question there. You also have the eagles red zone production just blistering scoring touchdowns sixty six percent of their visits. You had to think that was going to take a slight hit and it did down to fifty eight percent and the eagles just bonkers money down conversion rates. Forty two percent of the time on third down sixty six percent of the time on fourth down is just insane. Those slight hits as well in both those categories money down and red zone. Those were the major places where you saw whence take a dip in QB rating in two thousand eighteen I think a lot of that stems from an and I saw this on pro football focus on their QB annual a drop in his big time throw percentage going down by over half. In those categories from two thousand seventeen to two thousand eighteen all of the two thousand seventeen success was done with once as a big time thrower who extended plays and did amazing things. Instructor and out of structure and a key component to him creating out of structure came from his mobility, and you'd be foolish to expect him to have the same escape ability less year removed from major knee surgery. And while there weren't as many like frequent or as physically impressive plays as the were in two thousand seventeen he still had moments reflash in two thousand eighteen so Mark, let's kind of take a wide view look here over the documented to your period and into the unknown for the third year for the show does his fall from spectacular to solid from two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen and that's my word, not yours. So if you disagree let me know, but was that drop off from year to year that have a good deal to do with less out of structure plays due to a more athletically limited Wentz. And should we expect an uptick of that next year? I think so and we've talked about this a little bit when you lose when you suffer a knee injury as a quarterback or low body injury. It is going to take some time to get that confidence. Back in that throw in base, and that impacts in the pocket and outside of the pocket on structure off structure. If you go back and see Tennessee game. I forget which week that was the indie game that was his first sort of start renew was week three Tennessee was week four. There was some hesitancy there. There is some insecurity about his knee in his throne base. And that's to be expected. You saw it. Similarly, would Shawn Watson, you know. He had a similar sense. Even though he started week one. He was not to Shawn Watson week one in that game against England. And so and we covered Watson before on a previous before the Texans game. And we talked about that. And then he made strides throughout the season to get better, which makes sense with the timing of it, right? And to that point rewatch and once last night, my favorite game of his was probably that we thirteen game against Washington because you had that early touchdown that red zone play where he starts to climb. He's flushed moves to his right keeps his is in the middle of the field. And then find somebody the back right corner of the end zone for a touchdown. And then later. The game. You know, he is a play actuary as sort of a half roll situation. You gets flushed to interior pressure scrambles to his right makes a big throw downfield. So you started to see by Ron say week thirteen or so that confidence in his lower body again, which is going to lead to some of those big plays downfield. I mean, you know, the dropped from two thousand seven hundred eighty two it is dramatic. But I think it was to be expected. I mean, yeah, you go from touchdown percentage of seven point five to five point two coming off of it injury. You're obviously going to reduce those splash type scrambled Joe type plays. So you're going to see that the QBR goes from seventy seven point two to sixty four point nine the a and y off seven point four three down to six point eight nine. I mean, there's a bit of a devil. The other thing that happened was an rewatching him last night. The sax they started to rack up a bit of each sacra scented sex point, oh in two thousand seventeen seven point two in two thousand and eighty I saw a lot. I didn't chart this out. But I. A lot off of play action yet where you're trying to go down field at times and you're holding on the ball with over too long that Tennessee game had ones where he went to like boot and Tennessee was like really disciplined with it. And they caught him a couple times on that. You know, there are a couple against New Orleans. Couple of Dallas games where you saw that are Joel of Dallas week fourteen. They opened early in the first quarter with a plaque and mesh design and get sacked on his really have a chance. So maybe there was some protection issues there front quality to deal with it. So you see some of the issues there. I mean, the other thing I do sort of wanna point out is that you wrote about this went still needs to get fast with his mind. He really does. And it maybe it's something that we should have expected. Maybe we kind of did expect to come out of North Dakota state. He had a lot that he had to do mentally. He was given free. Rein the line of scrimmage at if it sometimes he was actually ahead of the game. Mentally when it was making reach because he knew what he was getting from the defense mean everybody when he was coming out in the draft focused on this. Play where they were running for verticals if you sort of stares down his primary read NS because he knew it was gonna come ope at his feet to stop. You know, the way it's because he's mind was a head of the play. Yeah. He knew it was gonna come open. But ever is like his foot work is horrible. He stares down primary reasons. Like well. One of your jobs is a quarterback if the primary read is open is to throw to I mean, it's kind of the job scripture, but he still needs to get faster than me. You wrote about it. I'm trying to find the place. It was against Dallas that week four t game. They had a dropping linemen into zone which allowed late advantage to stay over top on earth's because he didn't have to take the cried enough to cut the crosser because the pre snap read didn't mess the poach nap Reid. Yeah. That was one. There was another way. He got hit and fumbled. This was late first-half is a first and ten with fifty nine seconds left. He sees cover to pre snap at it. Looks like Dallas rotates it's sort of three buzz where one of these drops down the other rotates middle of the field. He's trying to go. Go to a corner out. Why I so too? I think it was on right left yet. And it's covered. Well, he's got somebody coming over on a curl route. If he throws it with anticipation, you makes a big play. Right. But he waits to see last half second. He gets hit. And he fumbles. I mean, that's the stuff that he still needs to clean up. And you know, when you've had sort of, you know, you miss two thousand seventeen he had a knee injury that he come back from that maybe the mental reps weren't there. But that's what I wanna see from helps to speed that up now. And that's an interesting point because I put that on the time line and everyone was like restore dotes again. And we might have to talk about that narrative because. Yeah, I mean, he he kind of he knew what he was getting and he saw it. And he wanted the corner out in Dallas had done was put Byron Jones on soccer. It's rice situations. I remember that exact play very very well. Just a tick late just just take late. And yes. So this asked the interesting part about it. I mean, Mark. And I thought we've touched on this game a couple of times here. But one of the games on it put on the time line. You can go to my time on Michael kiss, NFL, and you. Can see a bunch of throws from this game. Just I I mean, I saw everything I wanted to see the one game that I washed in preparation, I mean watch several ones, but the one that I loved that didn't make any sense. It was the most confounding game of the season. There was no reason for the eagles to lose this game. There was some overtime defensive failures on fourth and fifteen thousand nineteen in different situations. But also sees the loss week four against Tennessee. That was Al Shabaab Jeffries first game back from injury remember week three with Indianapolis. I agree with you. He was a bit. Rusty didn't have L Sean Jeffrey out there with them. He was a bit late on some things didn't take some things that were right there for them. But this Tennessee game in that game had everything he had bullets in between zones on third and twenty one which was dropped by the way back shoulder throws Jeffrey at a laundry shoot throw to Jeffrey with pressure coming directly into his surgically repaired. Knee the quarters beater to Jordan Mathews the touchdown. He's hat pressure. Common. Wiz was beat initially. He had to shorten his delivery. And he just throws a beautiful throw to Matthews a big arm throws on deep. Al. The blaze out to Jeffrey for the touchdown where he just zips it in there. He can really put some sauce on that thing. Timing and rhythm with arts in the sauce spots was beautiful or it's went off that game. He showed movement in the pocket to buy time. It had everything I mean, it also had a bunch of drops penalties blown blocks in protections that killed some drives which is unfortunate. Because I mean, the big narrative going throughout the season was that us weren't scoring in the first half. And you can look at that game. And you can look at certain plays and go. Well, yeah, that's why they didn't score on that drive. They got put in a bad situation because of a penalty, and then the blown you know, we talked about the play action sacks. And all that. But all you see is a sub one hundred quarterback rating in a loss, and you get caught making judgments about his performance on that when it doesn't speak at all to the type of day that he had. I mean, a lot of people with went, and we can kind of talk about this with some of the list of questions to but everybody thinks about the saints game, which is fair is worst game that he's had as a pro probably even going back to college. I have to go back to high school to find a worst game. But there is a stretch of play there for whence from is even starting at week three to g it's like week ten he was. Very very good. And then there was some drop off. But he was very very good for a solid stretch of the year. And he can still make all those throws. He just didn't have all of the escaping. You know, magic trick type plays at the high volume. Will what were some games that? You saw. Did you watch that Tennessee game where there are? So other McGee other games that you might have watched were you saw some of the same things as far as like this is what once can be at his peak. Yeah. Let's talk about that Tennessee game and that third Twenty-one throat announcing aller-, okay? Because if you remember coming out of NDSU, again, one of the knocks was that once credit uses is right. Could use his is to manipulate defenders uses is which stair things down. This is third and twenty one you're on your own modest twenty-five. There showed you single high priests nap and lend right at the snap. Yup. They've their safety sort of that's alert down to the box. He becomes sort of that Tampa to middle field guy. They drop a corner. So they rotated into a little bit of an unconfirmed. Tampa to coverage. So he's got a diagnosed that he does it. He's got Azure, as the number two receiver in a three receiver look to the right running a post route so post route against covered to Tampa too. That's what you wanna throw fought. But he's got a hold that other safety if he's going to throw that right now because he's got number three's going to occupy that intermediate guy between the safeties. But you want that backside safety not to make a play on it. What's his entire drop? He is trained at the backside receivers field of visit is trained on that back side receiver and you could see at the end zone camera is looking straight ahead of his eyes at his field of vision is trained to that backside receiver he freezes that safety. It's his death climbs for one step at then finally at the last second looks to aga- bore uses is perfectly and frozen. Absolute rocket like, all right. Sue his up failed shoulder at its dropped. This is one of those box score scouted moments. Because like you said people will look at the bottom line numbers that say in a bad game. All right. Look. That play though. Yeah. That's what you want to see from your quarterback and the Tennessee game. It was fantastic. I mean, there were some other throws that he might have missed yet. A Yankee concept a twelve fifteen second ten in the second quarter. Yes, slightly under throws it need a bit of bathrobe. But sure, but the later as opposed Al concept. He's under duress. Perfect read. Perfect throw. You saw some great pocket movement there in third and sixteen of third quarter. He's a bit late with the throat, but if perfect velocity in placement in a nice little subtle climb in fire there too. And so this Tennessee game was one of those where I remembered when I watched it back after it happened. I was like, oh when's his back his back excellence? Yeah. And it will we'll talk about what happened after that in in. If we see the same drought that may be some other people are talking about, and we're gonna take your prime listener questions after we get back from the break here on the QB SCO show on bleeding green nation. I'm using collagen. Nate Sloan I'm songwriter. Charlie. Harding. We're the hosts of switched on pop the podcast where Charlie and I breakdown pop hits to reveal how the music works. And why it matters. It's our job to help you find those hob moments within the music, whether you're a pop fanatic or skeptic, a teenager or an octogenarian non musician or professional composer every music lover. Will discover something you're opening in switched on pop. Yeah. And we think you'll have a lot of fun with us because you're going to get to hear from amazing guest musicians. Song writers producers journalists listen to switched on pop. Every week starting in March on the apple podcast app or wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back on the QB SCO show, Mark. I mean, there's a note here that I had that I wanted to talk about before beginning to some of these listener questions because there's so many times when you when you talk with fans, and they interact with you on the time line, and they may feel a certain way about a player or prospect or the case may be and it's always in terms, not always I don't want to give some people some credit. But a lot of the times when the discussion around Wentz comes up and people are mad because the team's losing, and it kind of colors everything they'll say certain things like always not accurate anymore. Can't move. He can't throw the deep ball. He staring down earth's. And there's all these different talking points that come up that are just so black and white to me like there can be a middle ground to that. And I think some of those narratives are just so overblown, and I and I look at the sports info solution stats, and I see the intermediate to deep all accuracy for Wentz actually went up last year. Which is crazy. It just the eagles weren't winning. I mean. Adding to the pro football focus UB annual whence was ranked fifth in a completion percentage at seventy eight point five percent that was up up from sixty nine point six percent in two thousand and seventeen. Once was a dog on accurate quarterback. I mean, we forget for most of the season before he was injured. He was over seventy percent completion percentage he was over seven point zero yards per attempt. So it's not like he was thrown a bunch of short stuff and he was over one hundred quarterback rating only only five quarterbacks in history. And I got a check and make sure that breeze didn't do this last year, but he was on pace to do it him. And Matt Ryan were the only other two quarterbacks on pace to do it. Seventy percent. Completion rate seven yards per attempt. One hundred quarterback rating only five quarterbacks of done that in history. And for a stretch Carson Wentz was doing that last year. So it's weird to me that people just got so upset with him and saw things in black and white. And it just it makes it hard to have a discussion when you're constantly having to defend against nonsense. And I'm sure you get Tom Brady all all the time to right? Yeah. I mean, do you do what's interesting is? You know, recently bias does magical things to the perception of a player, and he'll you mentioned that saints game. And that was a game you know, their tenth game of the season. And they needed it. Obviously, it was huge, you know, America's game of the week type situation. He goes out and throws three picks. Don't he goes out and completes? You know, fifty seven percent of his passes by in large his worst. Completion percentage of the season auditor fifty six yards by large his worst yardage output of the season quarterback rate at thirty one point nine by large. His worst quarterback rating. It was his worst game period that sort of framed everybody's perception of it so much. So that when I sat down to sort of revisit his year last night. I was like, oh, yeah. You know that that saints game? That's kind of how it ended formers really bad performance. And that's what he went out on. And then I'm reminded that look the next week. They beat the giants. He throws four touchdown clean gang the week. After that they beat the Redskins. He goes to for one two touchdowns. One interception, and they have the overtime losses last game. The air gets Dallas. We throw three touchdowns no interceptions at his best quarterback rating game one hundred twenty point three of the year. And he was Doug on could that you Steve so good week fourteen. That's that was his last game. How is that not because there was an overtime loss? Now pets number got to see the field because defense gave up so many frigging long at that's an upsetting game, by the way at the competition committee meetings. There was a team that submitted a request to change the overtime rules. So that both teams get a possession. And let me check. I'm checking my notes here, and I got producer aired tell me. No, it wasn't the eagles. It was the chiefs. But the eagles had a chance to complain about that too. Because you look like you said they never saw the ball. And that was a pretty big loss for them at that time. Yes, they still got in. But still odds went down to like less than one percent at that point to make the playoffs y'all that saints game. I think really sort of mishit everybody's perception of wets as two thousand eighteen season. So it I'm say did did it to me too. Because I completely. Forgot about his next three games. And I had forgotten about how good he wasn't that Dallas game. It just has the ability to when you have such a big time game like that. And it's billed us once versus breeze in and went goes and lays a stinker which might be you know, she was bad in that game. There's a discussion be had about clutch and like all these other intangible things and whatnot. But I mean, you have to look at the whole and even knew as somebody who studies quarterbacks watches them all the time and whatnot, you admit that you know, that colored for you that colored the national audience, and and there's a question here. Let let's get to some questions because this is a good transition here. There's one that kind of talks about this. Let's get to the prime listener questions. People shouting there will be an opportunity of the points of order, but the prime minister must and will be heard oughta oughta Mark you reached out to the gentle listeners said if they had any questions to send them over. So let's talk about it. There was there was one. I wanna hit up that kind of talks about what we were talking about. We come now. Now, I'm not. Very well as for Marco's Levy at Marco S L A eleven has went to become an underrated quarterback with all the full sock and his injuries. I think so I mean, I think that's completely fair to say he's not being talked about at all right now. And it's all an in. It's understandably all about Patrick Mahomes. All about Baker Mayfield, the the the young quarterbacks coming up. But I mean, there's nothing that tells me that if whence takes a step forward this year plays at his two thousand seventeen level where using MVP discussion that he can't be talked about met same tier? What do you think? Mark. Yeah. I think there is a sense that he's underrated now. And it partly stems from the fact that look what were we just talking about so many people had their minds focused and trained on that New Orleans game. That people forgot about the way he actually played last season that one game has colored everybody's perception of his two thousand eighteen campaign now with Mahomes now with Baker of everything the Cleveland has done obviously, you could make a case of some other teams are loaded up as. Well, you're gonna get Garoppolo back with his weapons for him. Nobody's talking about this guy people talking about Nick foles than they are Carson Wentz. People are wondering if once as sort of some pressure on or anything like that. But there aren't talking about the fact that he had a pretty good year. A great way to end the season. Even though look they lost that game. That was his final game. And so, yeah, I think there's a sense that he is sort of underrated right now. And it's so weird how narratives form, and I think with weds there is always going to be this narrative that coming from an FC FCC school. He was not going to be good enough. Maybe we've seen now with injuries and they want a Super Bowl when he was streak close. Maybe he'll never be good enough. But at the same time, let's think back to how he started his career. Now, I be the wet swag went. So Vanya they were gangbusters out of the gate yet the vice president of the United States talking about him. And you know, then they suffer through the yield traditional rookie stumbles and they finished seventy nine but they were competitive down the stretch. They never quit. That's why. Wanted to into the two thousand seventeen season. When a lot of people were saying look at how that year ended your sixteen touchdowns. Fourteen picks knock it'd be that good. I'm like I'm cautiously optimistic that he is going to have a very good season. I was on an eagles podcast. And I said that what everybody else will say, look, he's a bust, and then he comes out and has an MVP type season until he gets hurt. Now. People are saying wasn't good enough. He's not gonna be good enough. Look at that saints game. I'm just saying I back to be cautiously optimistic about Carson Wentz yet again, just to clarify. Mark is not an eagles fan. Well, I'm not an illustrator. Look you guys beat the patriots in a Super Bowl. I'll tell you this Mike, I prepped for these shows are, you know, I do my homework for the eagles fans. And I wanted to come on here at played quick little game with you come out here and say, look, I got some bad news eagles fans. He's not good at a more. He's going to be a bust, and I was going to do it just to get you riled up like that senior miracle where her Brooks when they had their opening round game and the players injured in the first intermission. And he screams at them to get dressed again like says, he's gonna kick them out in the locker of his crazy. Her Brooks, watch ways. Like, you think that's going to get them going everybody angry? I was going to try to do that with you. But I couldn't do it. Because I have an I kid you not I have three jerseys in my closet right now from starting NFL quarterbacks. I have a Tom Brady jersey, which people would probably expect I have Shawn Watson jersey and have Carson once jersey. I like this guy. I like this guy. I love it. All right. Another question here. Let's go to the prime listener questions. Sean at Sean from Seebeck who is who's a good, dude. He Seahawks Twitter. Don't hold it against them. Do you think whence his red zone efficiency is stable trait of his play? Or is he likely to regress? What are your thoughts on the amount of play action used by Philadelphia? They seem to use it near the top the NFL, but complete a below average amount. So I I have a problem with the play action thing there that that I wanna talk about because they were towards the top of the league for play action. Use Carson Wentz was thirty point four percent of his concepts of his passing plays were play action. That's third in the league only behind Lamar Jackson and Jared Goff. He also completed seventy three point nine percent which is fourth in the league and his yards per attempt was fourth in the league at ten yards. Now foles was lower in the yards per attempt because I think they upped the usage of their RPO concepts of their zero and one-step fake will hand off concepts and whatnot and football outsiders talked about this in the summer. Where they said, you know, effectiveness board yards per temp typically goes up with play action. It's not happening for the eagles because there's so many RPO concepts where it's one step get rid of the ball. So I think that's what we're seeing there. You might have meant, you know, the the yards per attempt are down as far as the red zone. I think you saw the red zone dip from him. And you know, we talked about the big time throw percentage where his big time throws cut in half in the red zone for once from two thousand seventeen to two thousand eighteen overall. He was went from second big time percentage to seventeenth and in the red zone. I think only of the boy was something like eighteen touchdowns last year. So I think we already saw a bit of a regression to the mean in that respect. However, what I will say is that the eagles are. So darned good at scheming things up in the red zone and getting guys isolated on favourable matchups that I don't think it's necessarily going to be a thing that Wentz can really dislike take too hard of a dip on because everything is made the picture. Has built really clear for him on what he's looking for pre snap when he gets into the red zone. Mark. No, the Reginald and start there because I think it's a similar situation to the sort of regression to the mean that we saw overall from have the two thousand seventeen to two thousand eighteen two thousand seventeen in the red zone. He went thirty seven of fifty seven for sixty four point nine one percent. Completion percentage. Two hundred seventy seven yards twenty three touchdowns Twenty-eight first downs. No interceptions. No sacks. Where quarterback rating of one hundred sixteen? I mean that is ridiculous now how do you? Yeah. Let's look at two thousand eighteen in the red zone. Thirty three of fifty two for sixty percent. Completion percentage. Two hundred twenty one yards. Eighteen touchdowns. Twenty first downs. One interception for a quarterback rating of one hundred point eight he's regressed, but it was still his best split by field position by far even better who is inside the opponent's wanted to ten Edwards. Interested is the adjusted yards per attempt. It was in two. Two thousand eighteen it was twelve point nine three which is just absurd that goes to the touchdowns and dips again denied point seven five again, his best adjusted yards per attempt by field position of any of the splits it. So the numbers have been great obviously two thousand seventeen he just came back a bit. But that's to be expected. It's hard to sort of duplicate that kind of production, even though like you said, they do such a great job scheming things up. And it's interesting that he thinks that there's that there's room for more regression because he was actually he actually did regressed in two thousand eighteen just still really good like he could go back up this. He could especially if he has that mobility because that's one of the areas in the field where it really helps because in the red zone inside the ten everything's compressed. And if it's happens faster, but if you get that ability to buy some time with one step it's hard to cover guys in the end zone lawn into a play 'cause you kind of run out of Roman. A short quick move is going to make a huge difference. Yeah. You can by that time, the AFI, you know, so that's gonna I think play a huge role. The other thing the plaques and stuff. I think what's interesting is. You know, I'm looking at football outsiders right now, you know, play action offense charter and clash and yards per play. Philly use it third most league by percentage. There's the Rams at thirty six percent Seattle. Thirty three Philly at thirty two New England thirty one now plash yards per play. The Rams died point four. They were second. Overall, Seattle was nine point. Oh, they were fifth New England will skip the eagles for a second New England nine point eight they were I and actually New England had a huge jump on yards per play on play action versus non play action went from six points to a non play action to nine point eight, which is a huge jump three point six. Yeah. And that was the biggest jump out of all their charter. But then we come to the eagles eight point one which was fourteen Ed. So I think that gets to a couple of things, and I don't know in terms of whether I can test the Saipa officers. I'd have to charge them all out. But I do wonder if there was a sack element because I met you. Earlier in the show on I felt like rewatching once last night a lot of times they were using play action. He was ended up sacked, and I don't know if it was protection issues. I don't know if it was just play designs. If you go in Yankee or something you're looking at downfield. That's a bit longer of a play. And a quick note you watch the saints game and wiz had to go. In at center was new ski had to go in at center for Kelsey because I think he dislocated his over or something and it was like a third and four third and three in Twitter blew up because they ran play action. But they got the match up that they wanted with urge they just blew up. I mean, they had protect they just blew a block. So that that's an interesting aspect of it too. Yeah. It was the third three the second quarter. Yep. We're the narrow blitz with free safety. Doubling somebody. I think he was double doubling. I'm not sure who is w somebody on the right? They sugar the gap. Both guys came out. Both guys got home and once had like. And once had like, no prayer. Yeah. And then, you know, something that I wrote about in the offseason about how they could protect him was using a lot of those play action in and cutting down the time to throw which they started to do in week fourteen. Interestingly enough, I'm like, look, they gotta protect this guy. You know, he'll hold up longer whatnot cut that time to throw down under two point five seconds, reduce it like he did at the end of the last year, and they didn't do it until week fourteen. And then foles comes in and fulls gets forty six percent of his dropbox, which are PEOs are zero to one step concepts where he's getting the ball out like two point one nine seconds. And next thing, you know, we're not taking any more sacks. So it was interesting to me the way that they treated went not to do more of that earlier in the season. I'd be totally fine. Taken hit on play action yards per attempt as long as you're keeping your quarterback upright. You're let them see the field and be more of a facilitator and protect them a little bit more. Hopefully, they do that. And and keep that in mind next season anything else on that note before it gets the last question here, Mark, I think we hit that what I'm just surprised Sean didn't ask a question of all punt it, okay? Okay. Chuck zodda. May he rest in peace? My good friend over it inside the pylon who is doing so much football work right now, he started the trend of talkable punters, Sean has taken its next level just fantastic work covering punters. So if any ver- Genta listeners are interested in the unto game go follow, Sean. Hey, Daniel Jones to pooch kicks inside of the twenty this year. That's why QB one baby it's a dangerous element. He's a weapon. It's an elephant. He something. It's an element is a football player are technically football player. Thank you for a job on. Ed, you buckman at buck man's ru says regarding whence he doesn't seem to throw any interceptions. But his fumbling issues seemed to be a major problem. I would agree there is this something he can slash will improve on over his career. Or is it something fans should just come to expect. And I remember there are a lot of fumbles on his rookie tape, and that sort of the become an issue last year. I mean, there were a couple of weird instances were like lane, John. So it had Margus hunt blocked up and hunt would just like would reach over as Wentz is going to fire in the ball comes out that was a few just like kind of like a feel for the pocket Saipem thing. It happened against the titans to where he just got racked by herald Landry lane Johnson got blown by not much. You can do about that. But is there is there something in winces game? Art because fumbles are like the most volatile stat out there. They're not steady typically year to year. But does Wentz have a fumbling problem that we should be concerned about the thing that he needs to get better at it is something we touched upon earlier is the mental clock. The internal clock. Yeah. 'cause once has that sort of play style where he wants to fight in the pocket. He wants to sort of fight extent plays in move around and create and, you know, going back to his days as a junior Dakota state now, I remember what Matt Waldman. I sat down and broke him down in the film room. His junior tape that national championship game. One of the things we said was like look some of the competitive toughness that we see here what he's fighting for extra yards in tonight's stunts. Like that. That's fantastic. But it's like Willie Mays Hayes. That's great don't ever do it. Again. The gentleman is to learn the onset of patients, and if patient if he deploys zen he will find that it is ultimately to everybody's advantage. You know, because it's gonna get you hurt in the National Football League. And that's sometimes what you see with him. Or he's trying to fight making something extra happened in the pocket rather legit. Sometimes you gotta pull pate men in turtle a bit and lift a second down a third down or. Get off the field the punt and dope. What your defense in a bad situation? Now, Ed, so he needs to sort of learn that, and he does need to get faster made one of the place. We talked about was that fumble had near the end of the first half against Dallas where if he comes off irks a bit faster and throws that curl route of the middle of the field anti-subversion they make a big play. But instead he's just a stepper too late. Then he gets hit because the pressure finally gets home and you have the sack fumble situation. We talk about about how I a defensive back. It's hard to cover a guy two three four five six seconds into a play it hard for offense of Lima to hold their blocks for two three four five six seconds, especially when you're expecting the ball to get out. You know, as a five step concept, you're thinking the ball is going gonna be out three seconds right at it's not. And you're gonna guy like Jason Peters. That's struggling stay healthy that struggling to sustain blocks. Like that in vita comes in has the same issue. So yeah, I mean that definitely is a problem. And look I mean, I'm a quarterback sometimes quarterback Neil quarterback at sacked. It's on us it sold on the offensive line. You know, we've got to do a better job. Get the ball out. We've got to do a better job getting through our reach. And I think that's the issue with Wentz. In terms of fumbles saw Ed size issue or anything like that. I mean, he's a big, dude. But it's the play style at it's the processing speed he cleans those up gets a little bit safer now that gives us to a question. Do you really want to change who he is? Right is what has made park Carson Wentz who he is. Is that willingness to fight in the pocket that place ranked in the pocket that fighter flight decision that sometimes quarterbacks face in the Parkway rather than turtle up or escape. He wants to sit there and fight at some what's made them. Great. So maybe the thing to focus on is the process is being because maybe you don't want to change. We is don't wanna change what's gotten to where he is. But you do get faster. And that will I think negate some of these examples of him get hit and fumbling in the pocket. Do you think he should be running more of an offense? Like, they ran with foles with the quicker concepts to kind of force him to be like, okay. Here's what we got for. You be a facilitator user weapons at you get one on one with Al Sean throw it up. Should they cater the offense more to that? And kind of I don't I don't want it because I don't want to take the sword out of his hand. But at the same time, I do want to protect him and kinda limit those situations from possibly happening and hopefully make the offense more efficient. Yeah. And you know, when he came out, I think that looked like he's more of west coast intermediate type of guy he could use some stuff downfield from time to time. Sure. But I think that kind of offense with sort of what they did before falls. Get the ball stands a little bit quicker. Having to be a bit of a facilitator, Tom's, I think it does make some sense. 'cause look I'm strength quickness ball placement of the shore areas and all that stuff. I think he does that pretty well. Now, the one that we didn't get to and it's going to take we got time to talk to do it in another show the summer or something maybe season preview type than man versus like. 'cause I do wonder if he's a better quarterback against zone, which kind of to be expected. I mean, you're going to have more natural holes and things like that. But that's something that I want dive into over the summers Wentz versus man wants versus own. Oh, that's just the sense. I got rewatching him the numbers might prove me completely Ron, but I sort of felt that way. Yeah. We're going to dig into it throughout the summer. We'll do some seasonal previews and whatnot. But I think we did a good job talking about went as overall game without j two black and white to hyperbolic. I mean, I think that gives you a good sense of who Wentz is he's garbage. He's done. He's a bust. So those takes were flying and they will be flying yet. Again, we've got screenings we got receipts. We got it all can't wait, man. Can't wait to start dunk it on that level. It's going to be better than a good dunk. That's gonna do it. They you so much for listening to the cubes. Go show episode eighteen here on bleeding green nation. Remember go to apple podcasts. If you haven't yet leave your review, if you leave a funny one will probably read it on the kissed and Solex show be mean to Ben it's fine. 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The 75O: Getting ready for New Orleans

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The 75O: Getting ready for New Orleans

"Want to know more about what your favorite Ninjas have on their minds. Check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts. It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for any Ninja Warrior Fan. Welcome back to the seven then five. Oh I am your Arja a show and he is your seven five do Damn Super Bowl champion college football hall of Famer and I know that he is feeling good and feeling like full of nutrition this fine Thursday morning Tony Casillas Tony Happy Thursday to you and happy Thursday morning to you and what you refer to as before we came on our air podcast. I was telling you about what I eat every morning for breakfast and that would be really thick. OATMEAL was a peanut butter and and blueberries with some people. I think it's gross but let me tell you one thing. It's a great way to limit is tell you this as a lot of fiber yeah. That's a good way to put it. I meant to ask and so I'll ask it now. The peanut butter is it chunkier smooths well considering. I don't have avenue crunchy album with the peanut peanut butter so I'm more of a crunchy guy I mean I like butter on a lot of different things. I like pancakes gates. I liked it obviously a Meyer my in my oatmeal on my bagels so just Kinda Kinda three different things. I like to use on almost kind of like ranch. It's but I prefer most people my house don't like that now. The kids are gone. It's just me and my wife but my wife and I but yeah I just whatever's there for some reason. I gotTa have it in there. I got a sprinkle a tad of just pure cane sugar in it. You know what I'm saying. I know I mean and the thing about something like that. Is that takes. You know some life to perfect. You've gotta you've gotta live some life. You gotTa Try Axon things that don't work. You got a little bit too much. Sugar ultimately set the line just the right amount. You know what I mean. The thing about eating really thick oatmeal bill is the mass I mean I don't know if you've ever left the pod in saint with the this cake with dried old now brother it is hard to you. Get off so that's the only thing that I have an issue with but hey Salah just talking about this stuff. That's irrelevant to what we're getting ready to get into the saints in the cowboys game. I got more for you to patch and you probably you may or may not have already started watching the show yellowstone yellowstone allstone all the modern day Western version of Sopranos. I don't know if you've gotten into that but if you haven't that's the next list list brothers pretty good I I I have not I've heard a lot of good things and I haven't quite like like made the decision. I WANNA watch that but it has been sort of. You know like I've considered it. I'm not against it but so you're saying it's good enough. If that's true then I mean I'll put it on the list. I just know this. Everyone thinks it's a western Kevin Costner snore and really don't understand you start watching and you're like wow this is the wild west Sopranos but I highly recommended that I found out is when I was out in when I was at Utah we went to where the stage at which they said they found the this the series yellowstone and I hadn't watched it before that I saw the set and everything so I gotta go watch me. Tell you something man. It's much watch TV so I recommend brother okay. I'll check it out. I am you ever been to yellowstone. You know what I haven't been to Wyoming a been to Jackson Hall but I I guess that's part. That's a Teton mountains so let I would say it's part of the yellowstone but not where you're saying grizzly bears buffalo and all that haven't directly where the was called fateful unfold the you know the natural springs whatever I have been to that part of yourself. I actually my wife and I before we got married. Once we were we were talking about. You're gonNA trip somewhere and so we put all fifty states we wrote them down pieces of paper and we put them in a hat and we drew forty nine out and left one and we were like okay. WE'RE GONNA go wherever that one is and it was actually why owning and we kinda like let's not do that. I just didn't sound that fun so we ended up going to to Portland and that was really cool. I don't know if this is my selective hearing but you said your wife married once I think hopefully it'll ah for we got married so it's a big week for the cow. It's a big week honestly them because of what's going on around them to you and I were talking on Thursday morning Thursday night. Football is the Philadelphia Eagles in Green Bay to take on the packers right now it feels like Green Bay's favored and certainly they opened his favorites. The Eagles are obviously really injured and the row teams always do poorly on Thursday night football so you. It's quite possible that you know the eagles are one in three by Friday morning. Although some people might be listening to this on Friday and maybe eagles one man I know but assuming they they lose the fact that that kind of opens the door all the more for the cowboys really kind of make this thing. There's with a win New Orleans. It's it's a big week in a small hallway but are you. Are you nervous about this saints game. Teddy factor is a real one but it's not drew brees. I mean what's your you're. You're you're not I mean my high level is. It's going to be tremendous stage. Sunday night. Football player doesn't get any bigger than that stage Asian. It's just a it's a great time to be on national. TV at Europe against an appointment excuse me opponent and New Orleans saints which which was one play one horrible call away from going to the Super Bowl last year so I think there's a lot of elements I think you take drew brees out of the question. Yes I mean that's a huge loss of him but you know they still have that stigma going there and playing and on the road and playing and that type of environment and Teddy Bridgewater is a is a pilot BACOPA and I I I look at you know when you go back and you look at the Nick foles replace place and then you go all the way back to Matt Cassel. He replaced an injured Brady Talk Radio. I'm going Back Years Matt Cassel quarterback when he got done he wind up getting a contract but basically just was a backup player so it has that kind of flavor to it if you will because I think Teddy Bridgewater is a you know as somewhat of a proven winner winner. I mean he's played but you know not longevity wise but I think you know you had the bad injury in Minnesota in so I think there's a lot of elements elements in the game that yeah this is a team that yet is yet to be reckoned with because look at the playmakers ahead on their team and you know for me. It's just it's a gang ain't that that the expectation is that the cowboys should win. I mean it's before you know before. Drew brees got injured. Did you talk about the Games of the cowboy could loose and this is still one but still it's you don't scale of one to ten as far as ten being the difficulty of winning. I'm probably about a seven and a half right now as opposed those two. Maybe a nine and a half or maybe ten then being able to win on the road had to rebrith had not been injured well. I was thinking about this and I remember last season. When we were talking about the five game we call it a gauntlet facing and it was right after they lost the Tennessee titans on Monday night football. There are three and five and we said Oh they're probably going to lose all these games they had to go to that was the first of the five and they had to come home and they had to go to Atlanta and then they had to come home and host the redskins Thanksgiving and then they had to host the saints on Thursday night football and they had to host the eagles else on a Sunday afternoon and we thought there's no way I mean there's no way they're going to win. Any of these Games are really bad football team and and Lo and behold they want five in a row and I was thinking I mean when was the last time they played in a game like this because you're right. There is an interesting flavor to where they were expected winners. They were the favorites they were the top dogs going into the I mean I think the last time since the two thousand seventeen season was so at I think it might have been the tail end of the two thousand sixteen season. It's been a while out that the cowboys were everybody thought going into other comics are GonNa win. You know what I mean just because laid up and down since then well I think there's more of an expectation tation now because we've seen three games and I don't care who opponents ban over the last three weeks you know they really beat their opponents submission and it wasn't like okay this. Is You know whoever they're playing is not is not a very it's not a difficult opponent. They should win but you know arguably they beat him to what more than expectations that we thought because we haven't seen anything and I think for me when I see a team because it's really hard to get up and really just the expectation that you're going out there and just bathe 'em like Renna Buell is that you'd have to go out and do it and how you do it so I think think that's expectation also what the offense and a lot of things have happened for them and they're one of the hottest teams in the National Football League and one of the three undefeated teams in National Football Football League and our offense is Karen not say the defense has really mean defense hasn't really had the to below up you know I I really like Mike that because they are so explosive and they score or point and then when you look at defense forensic part of New Orleans you look at their defense. Their defense defense gives up a lot of yards so I think the expectations in what they can do against a team especially their defense is really really really high right now and I think there's why people had this expectations now. The Dallas wouldn't be surprised. They're going there and beat them by ten points. You know this whole sort of thing thing is so fascinating especially even considering what I just said not not saying Oh. I'm super fascinating but you know we look at the cowboys now right and we say okay. We'll two thousand seventeen this last year. It was a bad year and it wasn't you had the Zeke. Stop pronounce constantly like will he won't he gets to spend it in that kind of just it's really spoiled this season but so the cowboys currently. Tony they have had at least four hundred yards of total offense and at least thirty points have had at he's funny. He's thirty two points in four straight regular season games that obviously dates back to week seventeen last. I've only played three this year. That is the longest streak in franchise history where they had done that had at least four hundred yards and at least thirty points the previous longest streak was in two thousand seventeen which is a season that obviously feels really terrible and in two thousand seventeen they did it against the rams that the game they lost against the packers again that they lost that was the Aaron Rodgers and then on the road in San Francisco and so I feel like you know we kind of we get to a point where this team where we well. Where did this come from this kind of came out of nowhere and I mean I mean I think we remember properly. They were really kind of finding this level of offense in two thousand seventeen it was right when Zeke got suspended that that kind of you know what I mean like it was almost like the Uber driver until you have a spare tire on you know what I mean like they. They took their momentum and had to put a spare on and they had that spare basically it's for my cooper and then they kind of got everything back to that does that make sense to me that makes sense and you'll trust me. There's been times times I just kept riding on flat tired down to the ranks because I just didn't WanNa. I wanted to try to make it as far as could probably win the smartest thing it'd have been nevertheless the cowboys out. Boys are not doing that now obviously and I like the the statistic that I really like what they've been able to do. A third colour come out and just really really just be all blazoned fire me. It's just been really really detrimental to your because you know that's the thing about it when you when you you get the ball back and first thing that you start talking about in the locker rooms like okay defense. They're getting the ball back way to come out there. We need to get off the field and a defence offense offense. This proceeds to just run the ball down your throat and score in two minutes then you're like okay. Let me get a break your breathe or get back on you know. Let's just did the same thing the next time so I think for me. That's what really has been the message that they have sent a lot of teams because they know that regardless adjustments you make that the cowboys had this way and I know it's only been three weeks but we gotta go with what their resume is and who they all right. Now that's impressive. That's detrimental. That's a you talking about momentum boost in morale buster for the other team. That's as accurate what you need to really diffuse any especially when you have a team. That's kind of an APP but any team that thanks. They're going to have a chance to stop them and you can't do anything about it. Now I think I think that's a great point so they're differential by quarter. They had a plus fifty two point differential in the first quarter which makes sense 'cause that was kind of got off to strong starts they always wanted wanted the ball to start the game and they had negative point differentials throughout the rest of the game and they ended the season with a positive overall point differentials Francis and the point is I mean you can discern looking at that that they would get a lead early on and then they would just get so conservative and just you know they would get up by twenty points awesome. I'm making this up and they would just hold on hold on to lose. Just yes GLIAC hope. The defense can protect leads to know by the way we're just going to just kind of flounder around a little bit and not really get really pedestrian and to their credit. I guess they want ten games. They WANNA playoff game and that that did work work. You know in in that capacity but this season their highest positive point differential is in the third quarter last season. They finished with them and again that was a whole season but they were minus sixteen in the third quarter this season they are plus twenty five in the third quarter so you think about it instead of playing not to lose they'd come. I'm out in the third quarter and so far this season typically with a lead and instead of saying okay. Let's let's go and let's try to like you know. Let's just try to wrestle them and and use a sleeper move sort of thing and put them out. They're like no. We're just GONNA keep swinging. We're GONNA keep knocking them out and we're just going to keep pouring it on and that and that's why in the fourth quarter things things have kinda changed for them a little bit because then you know the game has been a breach. That's the way to play and I think that's why we're in success. We are that's that's gone. Payton's type of football football which is appropriate considering this ponant yeah and you look at last week whenever they against the dolphins you know they play kind of played pretty sloppy. I would say the second the the second color and the first quarter may put up ten points in the first half and so he put the first quarter and the third third quarter together and I think the what we say to be very productive embarrassed prolific and take the first you know the drive and score and you put the first the third quarter gather and they continue that type of trend. That's difficult to to defend. That's hard to you know to bury matched over thirty points last game care. Oh you're playing. I mean that's a lot of points against an NFL team so I think if you can clean that up and which maybe they will it may be in the it's going to be allowed allowed place in New Orleans. I mean let's face it. You know it's going to be great environment. It's going to be loud all those who dat while fans all liquor you know so so it's GonNa that'd be something that they're going to have to try to continue to do because you know that's the momentum sweat you have especially as I mentioned if you can at the first in the third quarter to me those kind of the those are kind of the knockout punches the first drive second drive in the third drive. You get in third if you get the ball. I think you can really really protect yourself to win a football game I agree. It is going to be an intimidating environment. Obviously New Orleans shows up. This game in a lot of way is because you know if they're planning to Alabama drew brees. How do you stop him. Whatever so and in the same respect this game's going to calm down to teddy bridgewater last week on the Seattle Teddy Bridgewater had nineteen completions only through the ball twenty seven times and still off ninety only twenty. That's a lot of times but off. Nineteen completions only had two hundred seventy seven yards. He did have two touchdowns but I mean that is some some some check down city. I mean you know that's six point. Five six yards per attempt. people think that active is. Mr. Check down and everything I I mean. It's clear that Teddy's the Saints Offensive Philosophy under Bridgewater's just get the ball immediate open space dot com Michael Thomas and helping your your playmakers can make something happen. You know what I mean. Check out the American Ninja Warrior podcasts for behind the scenes. Look at all the action of the show and more with your favorite competitors listening subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hey I'm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown. Now focused your avengers of college football podcast. It says in the script onto riff on what that means and basically what it is. It's already spoiled. Every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters to pro wrestling too unfashionable pants we warren middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the with early and unfashionable coaches where now if you want to take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts gas or in your favorite podcast APP. Yeah that's a that's not a bad thing those two explosive guys because that's going to be a key for New Orleans to keep an Orleans tale of two Alvin Kamera's hands and let him make plays and run the football and as you mentioned Michael Thomas which is one of the most dynamic wide receivers national football colleague. I mean that's kind of kind of Dallas. y'All did try to do last year or the year before and try to get the playmakers I would say they changed that Taran Iran once. I got Amari Cooper because he's totally different top receiver but you know when you look at you and you look at you know the Jason Witten when he was really in his prime lot younger so that's not a bad thing for New Orleans because you know what those two guys are hard to fan and if they can just keep stay on the field because that's the worst thing that they the worst matchup in this game is New Orleans defensive defense fraud against the cowboys offense at front that has the ratchet and I I think the the cowboys dominate that matchup and if they're able to disrupt the football at will and in March stanfield that's one thing. New Orleans is not WANNA WANNA play into their hands right and I thought you know earlier in the week. I don't remember what it was but I said something about. You know if you're the cowboys. I don't think you want to get into a shootout with you. Know no the saints because it is Sean Payton but I mean considering who you're you're right that Michael Thomas and certainly very very good football players and I'm not trying to discount that but but I mean when when your quarterback isn't capable of going deep like Teddy Bridgewater might not be able to I mean it. It fundamental shifts while your offense ah remember this to. Rj is the defense says not looked really good as far as as far as defending the big the big play the last week against gets Miami Gig of four players and nineteen yards more so just to say that Teddy Bridgewater check now quarterback given what the cowboys have done last week I mean that's something they're going to really really try to go at now filled considering that you know hale right well. We're GONNA try defensively at you. Don't WanNa fall asleep in like. Give them you know they're. I'M GONNA try. Throw these short intermediate rouse because that's been kind of the cowboys she'll right now given up those yards right and that's that's where this I mean. This sounds obvious but that's that's where this game can be lost for the cowboys as if you know. Alvin Kamara takes a screen and turns it into a fifty yard gain. You know what I mean if you can mitigate that. I don't think Eddie can consistently beat you deep downfield and if you're the cowboys and you can score. I don't WanNa say it will but if you can score a lot to your point I mean the cowboys offensive. Salaam pro football focus has been graded as the best one in the NFL three weeks. I mean they. They seem to be back there form if they can by the time I mean I think if you're the cowboys I think the magic numbers twenty four. I think if you scored twenty four twenty seven points I just I don't think teddy can can match that. I I really really respect teddy obviously an awesome story and everything but I don't think he's good enough quarterback right now with anything we need to be able to beat that if accents well. I think what he their their whole Philosophy Sean Payton and so we're going to try to which because he will. He's a very creative play caller so they're going to a lot of things to move people around for them. I get into manageable out to get you know to maybe get the ball. Alvin Kamara in to get the ball to Michael Thomas and you know make a you know throw them a five byard slant route with screen or something in the flat and okay well. Let's move change. Also we're going. We're I and I and Ted no removing the second in four ORG. That's whenever they're gonNA try. That's where they're going to make their money gets the cowboys and that's really and then the play action to for them but you know that's that would be my only concern. It's arm because you know when you look at a team like that. That has is very explosive. You just can't fall asleep with the vertical part of the field because it will hurt you if you you fall asleep and sleep block and not really consider that yeah I mean and that's why I mean the one thing I guess I'm. I hate to get to like a narrative thing. The one thing I'm a little bit worried about is if you're the cowboys you know we we did see them in the first half and specifically the kind of obviously the second quarter they did kind of play down to the dolphins right. I mean they did and you know and demarcus. Lawrence had a great quote in the Locker Room afterwards he you know he was adding. I told you this on Monday. He was asked what was said at halftime and he said that it was just say beat the gas and you know. I thought that was cool because you know it was number one. It was funny money but I think I think it was a reminder to them like hey. We're supposed to be a lot better than this. Let's drop you just you've you repeat demarcus what the law said that's yeah. I work on getting there but so I I worry about them and we've seen that sometimes I in Jason Gairdner which is a criticism people. Have I worry about them. You know kind of approaching. This odds Teddy Bridgewater is not that great downfield you you know this and that whatever football go crush it. Let's enjoy the big easy. Let's let's go bananas and everything and I worry about playing down to their opponent and then what it should not theoretically be a game becoming a lot more of a game because they didn't take it seriously well I. I'm not worried about them playing down to Paul because goes to the New Orleans saints and although they don't have drew brees one of the greatest of all time they still have a really viable they got a tremendous head coach their defense at times can make plays and I think they were able to capability to build a degenerate points as there I mean they scored thirty three against Seattle out there ano- Seattle's had their issues and I mean you go out. There and you play the twelfth man you get you get a win on the road out there. I mean that's you know that's that's quite a feat for me and considering you're playing with a backup quarterback and I think Teddy Bridgewater think those guys believe in him and as far as what he can do your quarterback wise and what his his whole you know repetory as far as his baggy ACA tricks in really haven't seen that but I think I think the whole thing with them is that they're they're gelling an offense unit early on but you know my biggest thing. I really think the the cowboys exploited defense. I mean you look at the points that they given up on defense against Houston gave up swing a points rams. Only they gave up twenty seven and last game gave up twenty seven so to me. That's the story line the offense versus Zor defense and how much how much how much success can the cowboy tab as far as staying on the field and Israeli Ed will and hitting the big plays that they've been and able to accomplish in the last three weeks yeah I mean I see them and I hate to talk to my mouth but they they did get it's really up for the saints game. You know and they do kind of have a tendency to you know generate. It's a big game aren't on Sunday night football. I don't think this is the game. I'm really looking forward to watch because if I'm a player. Yes you get up when you're home outbreak giants but it's nothing like plan primary on Monday night football Sunday night football equivalent as that so you're gonNA be playing. You're going to be amped up so you're going to get all their energy. You're going to get all all the other teams passion. You're going to get all their successes. A franchise again beat it like to like a dead horse is that you're you're not getting drew brees but you are getting a player that can generate orchestrate this offense and again. They got playmakers on a offense aside the ball. This is the first time they really faced playmakers a wide receiver and running back that has that has that dynamic where they can take Geico. They can take a small play and just take it to to the house and create a home run. Yeah and I do think that there there are probably some discussion. I mean you tell me like that. You see there being actual. I WANNA say like conversations. I don't think too. You're sitting at their lockers talking about this but you know the cowboys themselves are saying look. Everybody thinks that we just beat these scrubs yet. I mean like no. Nobody's really believing that. What we've done is real well. This is Sunday night football the saints. This is our chance to go. You know really kind of announced ourselves that okay you know yeah. There's no degrees but this is who we are. We are seeing the beats. Ask you know what I mean like. Do you think that's a real factor well. Here's the thing also is that you try to downplay what you did and I think defensively I think they really and I think in their eyes have kind of underperformed because you know the last week against the dolphins gave up yards and last couple of weeks. Everyone's like Oh. This isn't a defense we had last year so this is kind of one of those you know the the proof of point and yet. I I know this. Is that when you have a really really strong leader in your quarterback we ads Roy Aikman we and they have Dak Prescott. Those guys are good at police in what happens during the week his far chemistry and preparation it also comes down in your head coach keeping you prepared and really really just having the forensic guy in the room in the locker room and I think that I think that there are built for that for one like the quarterback. I like what he's done is a leader and the things that he does and he's authentic secondly. I think maybe people don't give Jason Garrett Much Tony a motel. You're talking about. I think Jason Garrett's good at making people keep the folk either. Keep their focus on the task one hundred percent yeah so but those two things. I really think that they'll be better not gonNA go like okay. Oh we're just planning to say no. No no no. You're playing a an opponent that again was one play one huge bad call for whom the Super Bowl last year. GotTa take these cashiers. I agree with that. I mean I. I'm glad you brought up Jason Certainly people don't like to give him credit and he he certainly has its flaws. I'm not saying the guy's a you know a top whatever coach but he is very very very good at that and that that's a really hard to be good. He's an incredible leader of men. I do think the fact and honestly this doesn't exist for anywhere else other than the ones. This is DAX first game ever ever playing in New Orleans playing the superdome. I mean obviously Louisiana Kid. I think that that is a special enough guy cush as it sounds to your troy point. I mean for for this. Obviously I think that kind of channels that I think that is their leader. I think everybody is kind of aware of that. Everybody's talking about that. I think that he turns that into something special before though Tony we we kinda talk predictions and stuff for this game. I do want to take a brief Latte. Turn you brought brought up troy and this is a couple of days ago now. Choi is your dude you. You've gone too bad for him several times. It's clear that all of y'all would walk through fire for him. What what did you think about troy coming out from the top rope and dunking on the twitter account that tried to insinuate. Pat Mahomes was was was what I'd ever compared to because I thought it was incredible. I thought it was and it doesn't seem like droids getting a little bit more chippy. Oh yeah a little bit bit more outspoken older older age and I'm not saying that the be you know to the take be negative hangers into that's a bad the thing but these defendants defend in what he did because I think so many people take a look at guys and always look at the stats and they're like Oh. Well you know this guy. I did this and that guy did that and why why isn't he in the hall of fame he the whole conversation with was it Donald mcnabb and you you know bill conversation that he had bats than than Troy Aikman and so that's the guy to call that debt got lead for the yeah yeah yeah so I like to Roy him being more candid and outspoken and just really knowing what he's talking about anti compared no Patrick Mahomes and I think catching homes can be a tremendous quarterback quarterback. I mean what what he's done but you know thirty thirty three percent of his super bowl rings a look. You know talk to me when that happens. I thought that was tremendous. I wish I could be that witty. Think about the be able to tweet we things is right on the money but I think he felt like I think he was yeah that people wouldn't say don't respect or maybe they don't equity did as a quarterback because you know the stats and quarterbacks. I mean it's totally I mean they put up a lot of numbers and efficiently but a quarterback is measured on what they've done in postseason play and what they've done during the C. regular season and your hall of fame quarterback. You've you're there for a reason but but I thought it was tremendous applaud him. I mean he is to me. It's great to see him be able to not be a doormat for some side lies when it comes to someone taking shot at him good for him. I think he's also becoming better at the digital age because if your member I think it was a year ago during a Thursday night football broadcast. He took a little shot at podcast and he. He said that he didn't really get what podcast when you got some grief for that from twitter in general and I think Troy's saying okay you know what I gotTa brand. I've got a platform. I've gotTa do this. I mean and so I if if every time troy tweets he's biting some of them and it's awesome but for people that most people don't know him the way you do. Is that who he is like. Is that how he be. I mean hill in a playful way. You know he'll check you like that just if he feels like I I think troy knows you personally he'll do that. I don't thank that the public is really got. The see that over the years and certainly when he was a quarterback Dallas we you know I think no I won't ever saw inciteful nece and just his personality and I think honesty is as he gets older with broadcasts and I think you can see it is a little bit more. He takes shots and built around that more because I think maybe he got probably realizes you can't be serious about life but when he was a quarterback always said this about trump. I always thought that he was best. STOIC a good way quarterback and I mean still I mean he doesn't let people he he knew that he had to get in his own space in his own mind and channel everything that we can be this be the calm leader and he really just kinda channel that where maybe it was on protocol but that's just the way. Kurt himself and I think for a certain amount of go for reasons it will have for fact at work and but I think you know your your team and the guys that you that your your brothers is with you saw that you saw the personality like wow were they come from because he's you know to me. Aung San said Oh. He's so serious but I think now you're GonNa see the Modern Day Burson version troy aikman whereas you mentioned. I think you brought up a good point. RJ which you know you're you know you're on twitter. You did tremendous job is. I think he understands the whole how this thing works in I I I'm GonNa guy and whatever you know things that I do. Try to be trendy and tried to understand the terminology the language of twitter and social media because that's what you build on and you want to be more educated and you WANNA. You want people to respond to that because no one likes to hear dot. Io Yeah he's a great player. A guy doesn't do anything. I think that Jon Gruden did kind of hit he he did that. Is Monday night football broadcast everyone. It was a great player. Everyone no one made mistakes and you know to your point and this is kind of off topic. It's almost like you know when will rex. Ryan made a comment about Baker Mayfield being overrated because of their offense has not been very very has been very stale the Latte the first three weeks it'll Baker Mayfield will he responds in a way in which you kind of took it personal. What's that's part of the whole I the you know the criticism that you get as a quarterback back in a national football league but troy back Detroit think troy is understood the whole thing about you know what he's done as a player and when people start stepping on and you know they they plant that flag into the of the how easy it was for him and maybe he wasn't as good as people thought it was. I I think he moves bonds exception. Well and I thought that was right on topic when he you know hit that thirty percent thirty three thirty three percent of my super bowl ranks six tremendous it was that it was really fun. Everybody had a lot of you know. I'm glad you brought that up for Jay was funny and it was really really awesome. It's like a topic about court accent Manasseh for Bali Ed. You mentioned the game tonight. The Green Bay packers and the the Eagles Eagles Eagles the eagles go to one and three about that about retirement. I saw something okay. Who would you rather average a quarterback right now. Carson Wentz or Dak Prescott Scott and I'm sure and I haven't seen I you know the last tweet I saw this ad probably sure that motor Jordan people probably said Carson Wentz because for some reason we have this persona with people in either fan or not fans but haters of people like the cowboys for some reason I still think Carson Wentz is a hell of a lot better quarterback that Prescott which I don't understand. No I mean to be clear here. Carson's quarterback right like I mean we're not saying he's he's trash or garbage or anything like that but I mean it's always skewed excuses made that it allowed for other back but when it comes down even us and we're criticized Ackerman criticized deck but it seems like it never gets a hall pass whenever he has a bad game or interceptions like oh my gosh he threw an interception will look at NASA football then look look around. You Look at look at home looking. NFC East when you have someone like Carson Wentz alway. He's got a bad offense in line two three three two okay talk speaking of US future. That's that's my prediction. Now I got the packers went in. I saw one of three. It's passing a I mean if the Eagles lose this is the kind of thing that you know how cowboys fans this could be one of the best weekend ever for college fans because if if the eagles lose it will be a week and a half of chaos for Eagles Fan. That'll be freaking out. You know that'd be going nuts especially if the cowboys win and I mean look one three that hardly guarantees you the division like I'm not saying the division races over but an particularly really hectic too if the giants beat the redskins on Sunday because then the giants would be two and two yeah the giants would be better than the eagles and all of a sudden that just turns into a ridiculous Louis thing but I'm with you. I think the packers win more than not just because I think the eagles have problems but the road teams always struggle and there's an football and I would not be surprised Doug Peterson pulls it off but I mean I'll take the packers. What is your bold prediction for the cowboys game though you know I was thinking about about this and I mean there's so many things in this game that I really. I really think that that are going to have to happen. I think the biggest thing that we talk about us or play the saints play makers on Offense Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas. I think the cowboys hold Michelson. Excuse accuse me. I think the cowboys hold album Camaro two under two hundred yards rushing okay. That's that's that's full. I mean he is very good so you've got them in obviously command. It's going to have to have a good game for the saints to Winston that means. He's got a plus one hundred dollars for them to win to have a chance of winning. I just think the cowboys I look at. It's a boat prediction because their head out there without third to really good run stoppers inside and in Tehran Tyrone Crawford and Antoine Woods ratio but that's my prediction okay. I like that by the way yeah. We talked on the first one yeah north regional partner. There are some partial credit to be had partial sitting down in this game brother. That's right you had you'd gone kind of turn over ish in terms of your bold prediction last week. I think the cowboys forced three total turnovers on Teddy Bridgewater and I I'm calling them total turnovers because I could see it being like two interceptions and then I'm I'm not saying this is part of the ball prediction but robber looked incredible last week and I think Robert Quinn could kinda have like a strip sack. You know what I mean and that's your your third turnover. I just this game to me. actually has shades of cowboy saints in New Orleans for years ago in an opposite way in two thousand fifteen the cowboys went to New Orleans in week four her and the Sunday night football and they were there navy uniforms like they're doing now. They went there with Brandon. Weeden starting quarterback because Tony Romo has been hurt. Remember that and the cowboys had lost before against the Atlanta Falcons but but they they they looked really good Joseph Randall had had a big game and ultimately Julio Jones went off but people were kind of competent like hey. This team looked alright against the falcons. Maybe they can beat the saints and I think there's a little bit of that going on with the saints and now like it's kind of like the teams have switched bodies in that regard people are saying hey look the saints look all right you know Teddy Bridgewater and this and that and not the saints are doomed the away the twenty two thousand cowboys were but I think that I think we see more of a normal version of the saints. I think they're Kinda. came out of their their cleats last week and there was a lot of emotion involved they were doubted by a lot of people and I think they kind of shot that all against the seahawks I think they regress and that's I think the college is kind of good after them and I think it's a lot of fun yeah. I think you're right about that. It's it's one of those games that I think they can generate takeaways and turn overs and the cat the cowboys struggled at that they got won't last week but you know when the ball hits the DB's the ball hits him in the hand the native it'd be a Ball Hawk and getting and get those turnovers and but you know what my prediction with as I like the cowboys to win and my scores going to be twenty eight twenty one on. I think it's going to be a lot closer than we thank man. I think it'll be a close game but I think the cowboys again will continue to score points and I really think that they can expose a a defense has really struggled. We mentioned during our podcast at the keys. Atlanta scrimmage cowboys dominate the line of scrimmage so I think the cowboys went twenty eight twenty one who you got. I've got the cowboys and I've got a little bit more comfortable then. I'll I'll give him thirty one seventeen that average right yeah that's that's why I mean I think I just think they're that good. I mean I I really do and I think it was sent to your point earlier. It wasn't a a result of who they played. I think they are just that that good. I think that I think they show up and they show off and they have a good time and if all of our predictions in terms of game predictions that would mean Tony Tony next Sunday the four Oh Dallas cowboys would host the four and a Green Bay packers that would be quite Joe. You know it does not get any better than Anat and I hate to look ahead but man I am so looking forward to that potential outcome that that those two teams play especially especially the that's going to be tremendous that can happen but I I I gotTa Take Care of the saints. We'll be back on Monday to recap the cabinet to figure out everything that happened. No one's discussed and I will. I WanNa make a bold prediction. I will win this week. Okay so you're you're bald. You're bold prediction is that your bold prediction hits exactly yeah yeah. That's that's okay. I I like it. That's a good note to end on. Everybody enjoy a week and enjoy the cowboys game. Go Packers get it done. This was seven five. Oh the

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Updated QB Rankings! Dak #3? Rodgers Outside the Top 12? Where's Burrow? (04/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Updated QB Rankings! Dak #3? Rodgers Outside the Top 12? Where's Burrow? (04/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports got email us at fantasy football. Cbs I dot Com it's time to dominate your fantasy. League of Cheney rankings. Week begins with the quarterback luggage. Everybody it is fantasy football today on Monday April twenty-seventh hope you all enjoyed the. Nfl draft was good to have some sports back. Hope you enjoyed episodes three and four of the last dance. I didn't watch it yet. I look forward to doing that later. This week. I'm automated or killed. They kill Dennis Rodman. Oh and then. They brought him back to life. It was amazing. Wow John Snow style. How about that was a good. Of course. Of course okay? Good all right. So so. That's Jamie Dave's here Ben. Gretch is here clean-shaven Ben Gretch at a big thick juicy mustache for a while. But that's gone doozy. Yeah whatever. What was the biggest rankings? Adjustment You guys made at quarterback after the draft I downgraded Ben Grist for savings mustache. I downgraded Aaron Rodgers. He is no longer my top twelve. Jamie what was your real one job. Rogers one spot. He was eleven. I still yeah. I didn't make very many adjustments. The top to act I didn't have jacket three yet. I had Russell Wilson Their Dax very clearly. The QB three now. I guess that's probably the biggest one that happened to me too. So that's probably where we should start but we should because I'm going to make a case for four different players to be. Qb Three Huby wanted to is gonNA be mahomes and Jackson in some mortar. Maybe depends on the format. I'm just GONNA. We're just GONNA have a debate about it otherwise we're not going to talk about today. 'cause doesn't seem like the quarterback rankings change too much but I'm GonNa ask you about drew lock. Derek Carr Joe Borough Nasty about the Miami situation. The chargers situation Yeah what we will discuss. Aaron Rodgers goes in addition to getting them. No weapons seems like they're going to want to be liberal. Run heavy this year. We're going to try to take a look at the impact rookie wide. Receivers have in court quarterbacks in general I let's do some news and notes the saints are close to signing Jameis Winston and. They signed tatum hill to a two year. Twenty one million dollar deal Jamie. What if anything is the fantasy impact into this? Give you more competence in in the saints passing game. If drew brees gets hurt. Something like that. I would hope that they would turn to James Teddy Bridgewater last year. Breeze went down. But YOU KNOW SEAN. Payton seem hell bent on making thing as a quarterback The money is weird for a guy that got six career passes. But I don't know I guess the waiting I would say if you have James Munson Dynasty League. You WanNa hold him if you can because if they do decide that O- days mills not the heir apparent at twenty nine. Let's go with the twenty six year old. Who's got five thousand yards on his resume and hopefully he does the right things in practice. You know I'd I'd wait to see if he's going to take over as the Saints Guy. Maybe as early as next year based on one Sean Payton said that this could be lesser. I'm at the point where I think tastes. Hill has blackmail on Sean Payton. Well it all started with. Hey I I know something secret about you. You'd better let me play and now turn to. Hey I know something secret about you. You'd better get twenty million dollars this. Who's a better player to have in dynasty right now? Jameis Winston or taste them hill. James that guy. Do you feel like maybe we're missing. Something Tastes Hill. If Sean Payton believes in him this much and we know he believes in him though I mean last year. When breeze miss five games he played less but now he decide him to a two year deal but they're also GONNA probably side. J. Also back into the seventh round to draft Tommy Stevens from Mississippi State who transferred from why can't think of it Kentucky maybe I can't remember. Were transferred from but he you must ask. Penn State Penn State at Penn State. He played quarterback running back wide receiver. H BACK IN NEW ORLEANS. Charity calling him in their local papers urged calling him a taste and health club and they put it back into the seventh round to draft him. I think what we're all maybe not missing but discounting is that Sean. Payton thinks this is a role that is worth paying money for and having a player on your Oscar dedicated to he. Now has a handcuff takes him? He'll gets heard for someone who can be a taste uphill player and getting back into the draft to grab him He's six five runs a four nine. I mean a very similar taste hill terms so Having quarterback size in potentially throwing ability but also being super fast. I don't know if he also played special teams. But it's a weird thing. Payton the only one doing it but I agree with Jamie. I mean they didn't actually play them when they a quarterback. I don't really see hill being a fantasy option. It's just a matter of James is gonna a impressed them enough that they wanna make a long term investment him and be the ground you know what I mean. There's no guarantee breezes done so it's a gamble for your dynasty thing Jamison in the Dynasty League. And it's GONNA be a tough call if I can. Just sit on him for your. Yeah and Terms of the saints being the only team. That's doing that. Maybe the eagles will follow suit. This year with Jalen hurts but they took him in the second round. We'll talk about that situation. We we really and I'm sorry. I just neglected that whole eagles situation over the weekend so we have to spend some time on that. Meanwhile the seahawks releasing to starting offensive Lineman Center Justin Britt Right Guard. Dj fluker not Brit He. He's hurt they kind of got a replacement for him So I know that this is a huge deal but to Aubrey Knight. Officially at right. No well I I think Brit wasn't Pflueger was. It doesn't mean it's going to happen right so those guys are will be released. Matt. Here's a couple of quotes Matt leflore on Aaron Rodgers Quote. Errand is a pro and he's the leader of our football team and I anticipate that for a really long time. Are we talk a lot about Aaron Rodgers? This one's more interesting and very revealing. And Pretty ODDEST TO BE QUITE HONEST. Buffalo. Gm Brandon Bean on rookie. Running back ZAC. Moss Zach as I said earlier. He's going to be more of that first and second down guy he also said. I think more of the goal line and things like that as we did with frank last year. You'll see Zach. Do I think Devon will do a similar role that he had and then we'll see how TJ mixes in there and? That's a really confusing quote. Dave because you know single terry by the end of the year was his role was I. It's like he was getting a ton of carries. It just wasn't getting goal line carries. What do you make of this? You know very candid quote about Zac. Moss Devon Single Terry. It's It's jarring for sure. Because I thought what you thought that Devon Single Terry you know I think it's like the last nine games including the playoffs. Averaging Sixteen carries per game he seemed to be on a on a path toward being the lead back there and maybe he still will be Zach. Monsanto go there and and earn a role. But you're now getting a glimpse into how Brandon beane views ZAC MOSS in. He watched that. Maas play and he saw Frank Gore. He saw a physical tackle breaking type of guy who can work at the goal line. That was an area that Devon now we really know they just didn't want to work at the goal line last year and even if Moscow that role. They're still Josh Allen. Who who gets a lot of yards rushing touchdowns anyway it? It feels to me like it's going to be more of a split. I did downgrade single. -Tarian my rakings. I I think he's more of a round five type of thick as a as an okay number two running back. Maybe he'll end up. Catching forty passes this year. 'cause they they seem pretty set on him being the third down guy. I don't think Tj Eldin is going to get in there. I don't think they WANNA take single terry off the field for Yeldan in that situation but it. It's going to be more of a split than I think. Anybody really believed after the draft. I thought that was the case when they drafted Moscow is going to be split. I always expected them to draft somebody which was frustrating but Yeah I mean I it. I think Terry we'll stay on field for third downs. But they just don't though the running backs much that's just the nature of their offense. Yeah just reinforces the lack of upside in this in this role in my Secretary of two thousand nine catches last year in twelve games which is not bad for rookie. His last six regular season games he the fourth most carries in football and the fifth most rushing yards. He did not have a rushing touchdown though in the in that stretch and kind of mentioned this on Saturday inside the five yard line maybe it was Friday. Whatever it was only two carries for single. Terry Frank had inside the five yard line. So rankings. Week begins today with the first of five episodes Quarterbacks today we're also GONNA do running backs tonight and Eric on tomorrow morning But you'll have wide receivers Wednesday tight ends Thursday and then a mailbag kind of bring it all together mailbag on Friday. And please send your questions in via apple podcast review so be great if you could leave us a kind review with a question five stars and will read them on Friday. Show also read your emails fantasy football at CBS DOT com might go for some fill in the blank or something like that on twitter so you can follow us on twitter at Adam as early as Jamie is Jamie Jamie Eisenberg. He's J. A. M. E. Y. At Dave Richard at yards per gretch and at Heath Cummings senior at Heath Cummings s are at f f today at what is shrager at drager. What's your twitter handle? Then strike the one. You didn't follow for like six months. Who can remember that S. C. H. R. A. G. G? Yes you got it all right. Cool all right. So I looked at the La- I ran out of time. I only got to look at the last four years of data do rookie. Wide receivers help their quarterbacks kind of hard to say. The problem is a lot of the wide receivers that we've seen lately the ones that have been picked. I have not been the best once in their rookie seasons. So look last year. You had the best rookie rookie. Wide receivers were paired with Twain. Haskins Ryan Tannehill Daniel Jones Lamar Jackson Jimmy Garoppolo. Who missed almost all of two thousand eighteen? So you cannot sit here and say that those guys had an impact on you. Just don't know the the wide receiver impact picked on the quarterbacks Bacall Hardiman. Jj Go whiteside Paris Campbell. They didn't help their quarterbacks decay. Metcalf did he. I don't know statistically not really for Wilson last year inconclusive. Calvin really had a huge. It seemed like he was a huge help to Matt. Ryan Ryan had a much better year in two thousand eighteen. That he didn't do thousand seventeen but he also threw the ball a lot more and hit seventy nine more pass temps and their defense got much worse member. They went from eighth and scoring defense. The twenty fifth his scoring defense from two thousand seventeen to eighteen. It started the second episode will. Yeah but they got super hurt eighteen. You Know Cam. Newton proved a lot as a passer in two thousand eighteen. There are probably a lot of reasons for it norv Turner Tricia McCaffrey in his second year. But probably Jay helped a little bit. Newton was having a really good year. You typically I think. The answer's probably no but you might find a few cases here there. But I I am I take issue with two of your characterizations from Twenty nineteen pretty big issue you through Ryan Tannehill in with Dwayne Haskins Jimmy Garoppolo and said his rookie. Wide Receiver didn't impact him at. Aw Aged brand-new together. Lander your yards after the catch than any other titan had receiving yards after Ryan. Tannehill took over. He literally made Ryan Tannehill fantasy realm. Yeah you're right about that. I guess I just meant like Tannahill teams. It wasn't it wasn't comparing quarterback on shirt according to a team from one year to go to the other. But you're absolutely right. Aj Brown and then the other was Michael. Hartmann after Tyreek Hill went down Patrick Mahomes. I mean harmony start all year for Patrick. Mahomes didn't fall off in part of that was because Hartman's deep speed and harbor had a really good start to the season four touchdowns in the first eight games pretty solid production for a rookie. Right out of the gate. I guess but he needed tyreek Hill to get hurt. It's not like he added on to the production of the passing. I think he helped. Adam don't slander Benz guys. It's early in the market okay. It's up to interpretation start taking sides though. I don't think necessarily the rookie. Receivers are very great for fantasy as your one players. There is data. That shows that they will be better later in the year than earlier in the year. And we shouldn't necessarily expect them to break out Right away in September but I do think when we think about quarterbacks. The ones that can play are going to help. I think they're going to make things better either from a scheme perspective like I my point on Hardman was I think he helped Patrick Mahomes from scheme perspective and added depth to them instead of tyreek hills. Injury really hurting that passing offense. They were fine. And I I'll I'll other than a scheme perspective. I think just from playmaking perspective. I think they can help. Okay Yeah drew. Lock go into the hall of fame now well I think Carson Wentz was the the Basis for this research because I think he's the kind of guy that could benefit from the Yak like Like Ryan Tannehill did and the speed that they added. But we'll get to that. Let's start with WHO is number three. And it seems like across the board for everybody it's Dak Prescott so just just have a little fun with it. I've got the case. For Russell Wilson the case for Dak Prescott the case for Kyle Murray and the case for the Shawn Watson is it even worth wasting my breath here. No I think some people probably would you know. Look at it you. You said the other night when they got. Cd Land that. You don't think that is going to put up the same type of numbers lamb. I just I just don't think he's throwing for forty nine hundred yards again. I mean we could sitting here saying how great back is. And obviously we'll we'll we'll adjust to that but he can still hold out. I mean they. They've made it pretty clear. We're going to build around you but we're not pay yet so he may be like well. I'm not showing up. So let's start with the case for Dak Prescott. Since everybody has absurd. He threw for forty nine hundred yards thirty touchdowns. Eleven picks rush for two hundred seventy seven yards three touchdowns case number one just added CD lamb case number two. We threw for eight hundred yards. Russell Wilson and like eleven hundred or a thousand dollars Shawn Watson case number three. He threw eighty more passes than Russell. Wilson Dak Prescott has thrown more pass attempts in each of his four seasons or three seasons in a row keeps increasing. He threw seventy more passes in two thousand nineteen that he did in two thousand eighteen so as a great offensive line. Even without Travis Frederick Dallas was sixth and Scrimmage Plays Dallas was tenth in pass attempts per game. Here's a big one and I don't know this is a positive or negative. Because you figure the redskins they have a great defensive line and the giants still should have bad defense. Maybe these teams are better defensively but in four games against the redskins and the giants last year. Prescott through Prescott scored forty one thirty to twenty seven and thirty seven fantasy points. He killed the redskins and giants six point per passing touchdown leagues. I is that a positive for him. Do you think you could spin it toward a negative that maybe he doesn't take advantage of those matchups the same way he did last year he he probably will not take advantage of those mashups the same way but. I think I look at it this way with that. It's very hard same thing with Lamar Jackson. Same thing with mahomes. It's hard to replicate what you do. Euro Rear You have to build an obviously some of the regression. That's going to happen to players naturally. So it's just what the expectation is is he. Does he have a chance to be better than those other guys? That you mentioned. That's the way I feel. I feel like he's going to be better than Russell. Wilson better than the Shawn Watson better than Kyla Murray. So if he if he slips. I understand that as drafting him that there may not be the same level of production but I think he just has been given the chance to have an opportunity to come close to it again. So there's there's negatives of that you can look at he lost Travis Frederick. You know we don't know how that's going to impact him Across the board Z could have a better year scoring touchdowns back certainly Her Him And the contract situation is something that could be a problem early in the year. If it becomes you know where he's missing time in training camp but shows up for week one so I think that has a chance to be extremely successful again in. I'll go back to what I said. Following the the draft. We talked about this after. They got lamb. Sometimes quarterbacks just click at some point for Brady. It was he got weapons and he became a monster. And I think that's what we saw from last year that it was a full season of a Mark Cooper. It was Michael Gal coming into his own and now he's got arguably the best rookie receiver landon lack so you know. They don't have speed. If you want to nip the offense but I don't think it matters those guys suddenly run well enough the great runners and I think this is similar to the point. I was just making me coal in that if Amari disappears and people have talked about him as being a little bit of a Disappearing Act at times and not being very consistent if he has some struggles midseason. If Gallup gets hurt again. He missed a little time early last season instead of things really fallen off for DAX in him. All of a sudden to rely on a guy like Randall Cobb or or Blake. Cops not there anymore but cobb last year or what. He's now going to be dealing with time. Which is Blake Jar? When we don't really know how consistent that will be guys like at that level he'll now have cd-rom who for me is the top receiver in the class. Who Can I think at that? Point step into a big a big role and may be having impact like Aj Browner Miekel Hartman. Did last year. four Dak. So it's just more depth more talent in less reliance on Amari is not always been healthy as well. Amari in Gallup's health and their consistency. Now you have a third really high level weapon Insulates him so much Where I don't think he can say the same for Wilson or Cuyler or just John Watson if those guys start to have some injuries at wide receiver or what have you the the. They don't have as much talent around. Dave I WANNA talk about Russell Wilson though because I think he's I think he has an interesting case. And here's why. Because he was basically as good as Dak Prescott fantasy points were were pretty similar last year. And that was with Prescott throwing eighty more passes and Russell Wilson as I mentioned and eight hundred more yards but Wilson's a little bit better as a rusher. Maybe like Hundred yards or something like that. He's a little bit better. And he's very consistent four of his last five seasons thirty one. This is the case for Russell Wilson. Thirty one or more touchdown passes. He's just amazing. Touchdown passes whereas deck before last year thirty had never thrown more than twenty three and in the first nine games of the year before Tyler. Lockett got hurt. I NOT MISS ANY Games. Big Hurt had go to the hospital. Wilson was the number one quarterback and fantasy. He was better than everyone. At least six point for passing touchdown these. I'm not sure about four point. I can look that up. But he scored sixty more fantasy points. Dak Prescott. Let's that's not really fair. Prescott Played One fewer game. But Wilson averaged twenty nine points per game Prescott Twenty four point six his struggles were directly coinciding with Tyler. Lockett injury he throws fewer interceptions and Dak Prescott and his running backs. Keep getting her so if they say they're going to throw the ball more. I think it's a great case. Russell Wilson ahead of Dak Prescott. I think I might be on an island there. But what do you think about the case I've laid out? I think you make the case. Put THEM AHEAD OF KYLA? Murray which some people certainly have I think. Jamie does not sure benefits on it. But if you're nervous about Kyla. Mary being too hyped up then Russell. Wilson's your fourth. If not your third. If you're not believing that Dak Prescott can can bounce back. The things that I see about the seahawks are lock. It's amazing I think metcalf can take step forward. I think the Seahawks have a plan at tight end whether it's to use multiple tight ends all the time or what but that's going to be another outlet for them. I'm getting the sense that they think Chris Carson's GonNa be okay because they didn't spend big draft capital on a running back. I had a DJ Dallas. And he's physical and he's exactly what they want running back but you mentioned it. Who knows what they really have it running back and I? I'm not sure where they are defensively. And they're in a division with the high power cardinals the high-powered rams the forty niners can put points up on the board. This is I think we're looking at a year. Russ is going to have to throw a little bit more than we're used to. He attempted just over five hundred passes last year. Four hundred and twenty seven passes the year before that and you look at two thousand seventeen. He attempted five hundred fifty three passes. He had thirty nine hundred yards. Thirty four touchdowns. I think there could be a season like that work. He's got more touch sensitive last year. And it's rare for him to throw for over four thousand yards doesn't do it very often. He's done what three of his last seven seasons. I think he could do that again. This season I think they're going to have to rely on Wilson and that makes me excited to draft him and I'm hoping I can get him at a good value on draft on top of it because I think a lot of people that are going to see. Cd-rom go to Dallas and they're going to put Dak ahead of them. But I just want to have this conversation about comparing the two because the value might be better. But why do you have? Dak ahead of Wilson because I think when we evaluated Dak before the draft it was well. He's probably not going to do as well as he did last year. But he'll still be really good and now they've added lamb so now. I think that there's a chance that he can be as good as he was last year. Okay anybody WANNA get. You WanNa talk about Russell Wilson. Anything you disagree with from what I said or any reason. I think Wilson's the fourth guy. I think you guys both laid it out pretty clearly. The they've had some fifth behind. Kyle I know. But what? They've said he's he's he safer than cuyler and I think he may have just as much upside based on how this offense look. I do think they're going to change a little bit all right. Let's make a case for Karla Murray. Then you think adding CD lamb is good. He got the Andre Hopkins. He threw for three thousand seven hundred. Twenty two passing yards. That's more than Wilson or Prescott through for in their rookie seasons only twenty touchdowns for Murray but very unlucky in the red zone. Six most red zone pass attempts twenty-third most passing touchdowns eighth. Most Green Zone or inside the ten yard line pass attempts twelfth most passing touchdowns inside the ten yard line. He rushed for five hundred. Forty four yards. That's about two hundred more yards and Russell Wilson did each of his last two seasons. So that's the equivalent of throwing for five hundred more yards than Wilson. That basically makes up the five hundred yards passing. Yard gap his rushing prowess compared to Russell Wilson who I already told you Russia's for a little bit more than back Prescott Arizona. I don't know if this is a good thing or bad thing last year. There were only twenty second in the NFL. In plays from scrimmage thirty first and time of possession. My thought is second year in this offense second year with Murray. They get better. They run more plays. That's going to be their goal. Obviously I think that we could see an uptick there in in the pace of their offense and in the in the place that they run basically. So that's my case for Kyle. Murray to be number three it. Basically he's got more rushing prowess than Wilson or Prescott. He was unlucky in the red zone. And Benaissa's part of baking in the Andre Hopkins and second year improvement. Yeah I mean I think if you are looking at who the and this is a little bit of a bold statement but who who has the upside to contend with Mahomes in Jackson and I'm not really discounting Dak in Russell's upside but characters upside is kind of unique because he is the guy that can run for so many yards in so many touchdowns on the ground and you just noted like what that what that makes up in terms of passing stats? It is so helpful. That's why Lamar Jackson was so good. This year I don't really have to Belabor that point but The interesting thing. I think you were talking about with Arizona. In their scrimmage play time of possession their time to snap was extremely high last year. And that's what we expected from Cliff Kingsbury. They were quick to the line team. Which is something that If their defense improves should help them be a A higher overall play volume type offense which again these types of these things are all going to be positive for Murray in your to as you kind of noted but yeah it's a combination of of rushing upside. That is more significant than back or Wilson at this point in his career And obviously those guys can provide some rushing value to Murray's rushing upside is going to be so much more significant plus some some passing upside and he was pretty solid last year. We get Hopkins. You talked about the red zone issues. Kingsbury we we hoped would be a little bit more forward thinking he settled for just a crazy amount of field goals inside the five and ten yard line last year and he got hammered for it in the media so hopefully you know reconsiders that next year. Let's calorie make some plays on fourth downs down in close in and try to find some touchdown so this yeah this is the upside. Pick in the top five. The hardest case to make was the case Shawn Watson I. I don't think anybody's going to have them three. But I was actually a little surprised. That Jamie you head cuyler. And he hasn't had of cuyler debut have Watson sixth so if you want me to just read the rankings right now it's Mahomes Jackson. I'm looking at six. Point for passing touchdown mahomes Jackson for everyone for Dave Jamie and heath. Then it's for Jamie Dak Wilson Watson Murray for for David Murray Wilson Watson for Heath. It's Dak Wilson Watson Murray same as Jamie Jamie I would've thought for sure Watson would be six. How come you have him ahead of Kyla? Murray I think this is Cam Newton. You're just put the team on his back and say because he hasn't enough hooks. I mean I think it's cooked cooked cooked as a part of it that the reason I moved to the head of of Cuyler I feel like the thing that worries about keiler a little bit. Is We kind of I think fantasy wise in Myself analysts drafting? You know we kind of fell for shiny new toy a little bit last year and with Baker. An you tend to overlook the guy. Who's done at your your ear. And so while Hopkins is is a loss. I think cooks makes up for it a little bit by whatever percentage. You WANNA put there so. I think this has been a half disorder. Say Okay you basically bleep me by taking away my my my best player and so if I have to carry this team back to the playoffs if I have to carry this team as a potential. Mvp I think he has the potential do that. So it's it's kind of like Russell Wilson light like I just feel safer with the Shawn Watson. I do agree with everything you guys have said. Keiler has much more upside if he clicks but as we saw at the end of last season with Kyle when they were running the ball. Better WITH KENYAN DRAKE. His numbers went down. Fantasy West. So I think Watson I don't trust David Johnson I. I have more faith in Brandin cooks bouncing back than David Johnson. Maximum so I think whatever cooks provides whatever fuller provides whatever sean will do running the ball. I think his his production will be a little bit safer Higher floor lower ceiling cuyler if everything goes well but They're they're you know I could see myself flip-flopping on those two guys back and forth. But I do think that if you're shooting for upside you take over Watson and shouldn't isn't that what you should be doing a quarterback this year at the top. I think you can make an argument. That safer is a little bit better. You know so The thing that's been successful for these quarterbacks getting them late mahomes was late. Lamar was late. you know when you start to get into the okay. Who Do I need this going to help me be the best team? Possibly have those this narrows. I think they're good. If you're taking these guys early which again are drafts. Versus most drafts were different. I think you make an argument for for safer as a little bit better. It's not like shots doesn't have ups like to your point if he puts team on his back like that. Cam Newton Year and and we know we can do that since college. He's a kind of guy that right. a. You look at his stats is better when his teams down. He's he runs. More is better for fantasy runs more. He throws at a higher touchdown rate. He's more efficient when the game is on the line he. He's always been a Gamer and he's not without upside and neither Russell back. I I do agree with Jamie weakened over Over emphasized that the shiny new toy little bit but he also named Lamar and Mahomes. Who are guys who were exciting late around sleepers and they were great values but it that also is a candidate a little bit of a counter argument. Maybe we were just on the wrong shining. New Toy last year was great and we were all on Baker for the wrong reasons. Baker thing about Baker. He was coming off a strong rookie season. Strong enough that you can say okay. You can see some signs. He got a new weapon in Odell Beckham and it was like. Oh Wow okay now. You're adding Odell Beckham to this guy. That just had a strong season. And maybe just wasn't as good now. I think in a better spot because he runs. And I think the Andre Hopkins is GonNa do more for the cardinals offense and Beckham do last year for the browns offense. So I I love. I think got break-up potential. You should absolutely draft him if you think he's third taking third. You could make an argument. Maybe he's he's second people are are gonNA fall off at much but I just looked at it as All these guys have the chance to be really special. But you've seen it from the other five. Can I make one last point on Watson Atom? Yeah sure about thirty percents production over. His three seasons came on passes to Hopkins and last year. He only had one game with twenty or more fantasy points where Hopkins did not have fifteen in PR and there were two of such of those games in two thousand eighteen so the last two years and now have a for twenty seventeen but I can get it but over the last two years only three times Watson. Have a game that we were considered good for fantasy. Were Hopkins wasn't good for fantasy and so I think it's huge shoes to fill for. Brandin cooks count on him to do anything. Close to what Hopkins had last year? I can't count on Fuller to pitch in I. I'm nervous about how he's GonNa go about matching last year's numbers. Well very interested to see the results of this twitter poll that. I meant to post last night but I posted instead today. Which doesn't give US great results? Who is your number three quarterback this season Dak Prescott Russell Wilson? Kyla Murray to Shawn Watson. I posted this about a minute or two minutes ago right now. Dak Prescott one hundred sixty seven votes in. He is the leader. Russell Wilson is a close second to Shawn Watson. No collar. Murray has overtaken Watson at third and Watts Watson's for Kyla Berry is now fourth Shawn Watson is third but that Prescott. Thirty five percent of the votes raise. Would you say that? It's a horse race. Russell Wilson really close the gap. 'cause DAKO had a big lead earlier but now it's getting closer. I'll let you good. That's good that's offering a million dollars a shoots. He scores get ready for another stream of the F. F. T. twitch channel on Tuesday April twenty eighth at seven pm Eastern Myself Dave Heath and Gretch all going to be broadcasting live from our new twitch. Channel we'll debate draft winners and losers throughout the entire hour. We will be answering your chat room questions. And that's the most fun stuff so ask us. Your questions could be about anything whatever. Let's just go to twitter dot com slash F F today or search F. F. Today on twitch to follow US ahead of time to get switched dot com slash F F today. That's not hard or search F. F. Today on switch to follow US ahead of time while so put the twitch link in the description for this episode there have been talk about video games. Sh- Raghib get on here playing video games for this. Not necessarily games poker beer pong whatever onto a child. I got the old school tech mobile that I could play. Oh I will wipe you at that game. I can we play each other. There's a Costanza won't get make that happen. You will not what me Tech Mobile like technical or techno Super Bowl. Because that's a I've talked either one bro either. Why bring a super bowl is where I wanNA bring? Okay all right let's Let's talk a little bit. More quarterback rankings here. Dave also wants to get his haircut on the show tomorrow. Is that GonNa Happen? If if you want it to Dave's wife. Mike cut his hair. We'll see what happens. Did Carson Wentz move up for you guys about technically moved up once back because I moved Aaron Rodgers down and that would be. That would be twelve four dave eleventh for Jamie for Heath. Yeah I had ones at ten so I didn't move him out but I feel more confident in that ranking. How much did Aaron Rodgers moved down? I think one spy you said Dave two spots spots Jamie once I am at thirteenth now so I think maybe twelve before but yeah. I don't feel very good about him. Everybody's got rodgers twelfth or thirteen. So let's talk about the guys behind Aaron Rodgers and you know are like Jamie's got stafford one spot behind dave actually stafford ahead of Rogers Heath has stafford ahead of Rogers. Ben Staffer Roger I of Stafford Mind Okay. Very effort by be this year's wait. Wait wait for a quarterback and then hit big. Yeah I've been taken him in almost every draft. We've been doing early this year. I haven't very. I heard you guys talk about that on the first half heroes episode. First half he rose whatever was The Guy has been the Sabe quarterback for so long though. He was an entirely different quarterback. Last that's my that's my point. My point is let's not make too much of eight games especially when you look at those a games. He had some cake matchups. I think like the giants the raiders e crush them but year after year. Matthew Stafford has been a good quarterback like usually finishes around. Qb Ten but never as good. Maybe one year earlier career as good as he was for the games last year. So I'm just wondering if we're taking a small sample size and expecting a little bit too much. Let me give you a quick reply on that. I believe since two thousand and thirteen. He never had an average throw depth higher than I think. It's eight yards per attempt. I didn't know we're GONNA be talking about Stafford so I don't have the stats right in front of me but from two thousand thirteen fourteen through eighteen. He was an underneath passer. After Calvin Johnson's late career his top targets were golden tate. Theoretic all discuss Darryl Bevon took over last year his average throw death led the NFL. He complete when I say he's a different passer. I don't mean statistically I mean fundamentally how he was playing the quarterback position he turned into James Winston in Tampa Not as much volume overall not as many pass attempts but a lot more downfield passing. Which is what helped him have such a good eight. So there's there's underlying reasons to believe that eight-game run can foretell a big yard touchdown season and twenty twenty. Okay I like that see. I know you can't recite the Matthew. Staffer stats off the top of your head. But man we bring up. Aj Brown actually up riot tad hill on a quarterback shell and you've got the AJ Brad stats did you guys move Gardner Minzhu up. And how do you feel about him? I did not move up. He would be a target for me. As a number two quarterback in super flex lease. I did I moved him over. Teddy Bridgewater like we're we're kind of splitting hairs. I think the big takeaway from this draught and we went into the draft. I was doing some Super Flex Dynasty Startups at two in Earlier in April in March and it was tough to even first of all know who was going to be a starter for some of those teams. So WE GOT MORE CLARITY THERE. But outside the top maybe twenty. You have four quarterbacks and there some of them are in the in the top twenty four quarterback thirty eight or older so they're tougher to to trust. Tom Brady Breeze Ben. Rothlisberger Philip Rivers. There are locked in starters but there was others. That weren't necessarily clear starters. I think we feel a lot more comfortable about Gartner Now drew lock. Dwayne Haskins. Those guys are GonNa Start in twenty twenty and we. We have to feel more confident about drew locks weapons in Garden. Menchu's weapons so I think the Jimmy Garoppolo I think his profile improved so I feel a lot more comfortable about the QB to range. Now I thought that was the big takeaway for the draft for me. I still think Cam Newton ends up in Jacksonville. Does anybody other than he think. Gardner meant you can be really good. It could be really good. Yeah no he thinks he can be really good me he could be good. You can be serviceable. It can be a decent you know streaming fantasy quarterback back. I don't think -bility alley guy. You want to say I'm making my fantasy season on Gardner Michio right. Shut him ability. He threw a ton of Washington state under Mike Leach and I think he showed that type of Ability to support multiple receivers and be an accurate passer and complete a lot of passes last year. He didn't really push the ball down the field of time Dj Shark obviously being the number one. Receiver he's going to need to do that but also really good complement to Jarque. I really liked discussion of made that clear on the show plenty of times. But he's going to be an underneath closer. The line of scrimmage yet guy that's really gonNA help give you options at every layer of the field and and Mitchell had some rushing ability so I think he can be a solid starter. Yeah you guys. Going Gardner Menchu or Baker Mayfield Baker Baker Dana Jones regardless you Jones Jones minhsiu or drew. Lock luck I have locked once. Bata all right interesting. So what did you guys? How far did you move? Lock and Derek Carr lost to twenty and car. I think once bought the twenty four. I've Carter Twenty nine. Didn't move him up but I don't know that I really will. I don't think he is a lockton starter for for Sixteen Games agree. That's makes me nervous to take him. He's he's more of like that. Low end number two super flex quarterback but Locke is eighteenth for me. And I'm looking forward to where you're watching games from last year. I think that what we saw from Denver in the draft is a sign that they wanna be more aggressive offensively yet so you have locked Dave. He's eighteenth for me ahead of Baker Ben Rivers Bridgewater. Admits you okay? What about borough versus? Lock Earl for me. Jaime de borough a couple of spots at borough borough had a Baren Rogers. That was my next question. Yeah what what how you guys feel about. Joe Borough Right now Lebanon. I think it could be okay if you learn the offense quickly You know that's GonNa be a big thing to keep an eye on these guys. Potentially Short Nazis. You know who is workout partner was leading up to the draft during. I'm talking about a receiver. Oh no he was. Working with t higgins leading up to the draft and now their teammates coincidence cool. Yeah and he'll do you guys have a projection for how many rushing yards to fifty is sort of a a milestone that. I've that I've just sort of created based on last year where I can you get to the two fifty mark. Maybe I should lower to like two hundred or something like that. But you're contributing. I think if you're around two fifty you're giving us giving us something with a Russian Guy Thinking get there. What are you project for borough rushing under two fifty? Yeah I would be surprised if the bengals incorporated that part of his game the ambling. I don't I don't think it's he'll run but I don't think it's you know you say that ran for two fifty. I think I'll take the under. That's a reference to seventy seven. What's wild as Minzhu? Ran for three forty four last year and I didn't think of him as a very mobile guy. I mean I think it just comes down. To kind of the offense in the game situations mentioned was trailing a lot of games. I think that's when he was scrambling a little bit more boroughs competitor in that a lot. This year yeah well most. You wouldn't surprise me but I agree I would take the under then. She was on pace for four hundred forty rushing yards in his in his starts. So that's why I thought to fifty was kind of realistic. You know four forty to fifty is not that much. Daniel Jones was on pace for three hundred sixty five and his twelve starts. But all right but he can ruin. That's the point so Borough top fifteen. He's there for me Just outside from I'd rather have Mayfield Golf I. It was a close call between him and golf. I I've got him ahead of Golfer. Okay and finally like talk to me about Jalen hurts. Eagles second round pick and what he means for Wentz and his future. It sounds to me like the eagles. WanNa incorporate him into the offense. Kinda like how the Ravens Inc. Lamar Jackson is a rookie. Where they set out to have him on the field for a couple of plays each game. Which sucks for Carson Wentz? But I think that they want to do that. But more importantly have a good solution at quarterback for Wind Carson. Wentz gets her. I think they recognize that. Wentz does have a hard time staying healthy. That's something that's also baked into his ranking and fantasy and if if he goes down now at least okay. We've got this talented quarterback who can come in and and make plays and and be a little bit different. I think the offense would look a lot different with him there versus Garden Wentz but they they they clearly had a plan form and design for him and it's just hard to see him being a good contributor for fantasy so long as Carson wentz healthy okay. This is the last question now. Jamie what did you do for two quarterback league purposes? I guess what did you do with the dolphins and the chargers as the dolphins drafted to tango by Loa and the chargers drafted Justin herber. I think even though despite he's coming off the injury I think it will play before. Herbert does because I think tyrod can get the chargers off to a decent enough start obviously likes him and their roster is pretty good. So I think that they'll stay in playoff contention Whether or not tyrod the reason for that and when I mean as you know having these monster games or is he just doing what he needs to do and so I think the dolphins are still you know. They'll they'll clearly make improvements from where they were ago but I think that they will be more apt to turn the reins over to to a sooner than the chargers will so I would prefer tyrod outdoor over Herbert a two quarterback option this year. I think tyrod is better than bowl. Finally let's update you on the twitter. Poll Yeah Dak Prescott. Thirty three point. One percent of the vote. Russell Wilson Twenty eight point. Six Percent Carla Murray nineteen point five percent two Shawn Watson. Eighteen point nine percent five hundred fourteen votes. So far guest surprised though that Wilson is as close the Prescott as as he is. I thought it would be a bit of a runaway for deck. But it's very close right now. Good show guys. 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Hour 2: Jenkins vs Reid

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38:06 min | 2 years ago

Hour 2: Jenkins vs Reid

"My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance, good. It's it's it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. All right. If you're just joining us, we are discussing the situation that recently happened between Eric Reed and Malcolm Jenkins at the eagles panther's game. And essentially, Eric read called, Malcolm jink comes a sell out for hijacking and then selling read and Colin cabinets movement to the NFL for a hundred million dollars and max. I know you wanna say. Stephen a. actually your point about you feeling uncomfortable when someone who's not African American is discussing, this is actually well taken. I don't feel that way. Personally, I think social consciousness anyone can have it. But if you don't go through something personally, won't understand it the same way. So I actually appreciate that point. I want to say something about about what evergreens real beef is here. He thought the details of the deal were bad. And basically the idea was not just the players couldn't decide where the money was going to go. But the money itself, which wasn't quite one hundred million dollars was already money that was there and earmarked for other things. It was just being shifted over. It wasn't an additional investment by the owners and the players would also lose control about the way it was invested. So he thought on the details they were getting, they were getting it was like a shell game and they were getting ripped off and it was being co opted by the NFL. And so when he says, sells out, he means that literally. You're selling out and it's not even a good deal. I think Eric Reed has a point. No, he he, but here's the thing. Here's the thing max. Okay. Everyone can have an opinion about how the money was allocated where the money comes from. But for me, the bigger overall issue is the public display, their agreed head in the game because at the end of the day, what good does it do to have that type of confrontation with Malcolm jank Malcolm Jenkins at that point in time in regarding Colin cabinet him not being on a roster right now, because like I said earlier before the break people who are posers whole issue guaranteed you, they're sitting back, right, they're rubbing their hands. See, see here it is. These guys aren't even United on what they're both post be fighting for right now. You're saying that with me is my situation where agreed in this whole situation. You're both going. You're both fighting for calls, but you're doing it in different in different ways. It does no good to go. Out there and have a public display and say as a black man, it just hurts me to see Baroud black to black men going out there and having that type of public display when you're supposed to be fighting on the same team here he's supposed to be fighting for the same calls. Well, first of all, Daming absolutely right. But max let me take it a step further and you're not wrong. When you're saying max, I'm not talking to you as if you said something wrong, please. Please on misunderstand. Let let me be very, very clear. Let's get into the particulars. For example, the eighty nine million dollars. Did y'all know that part of the agreement is that. The owners will match whatever the players contribute up to a quarter of a million dollars annually to certain causes pertaining to the African American community. The kind of issues that Colin cabinet and others were talking about addressing, we know this if you don't know it, you know it. Now number two, the NFL Colin cabinet himself, Eric Reed himself, they will never protesting against the National Football League and its owners. They were protesting against society in terms of wanting to bring attention to Rachel oppression, Rachel inequality, and other things pertaining to disenfranchised communities throughout our nation. They were not complaining against the National Football League. Number three. When you talk about Malcolm Jenkins and the players coalition, they're saying their priority wasn't calling cabinet. Their priority would the issues we even have Josh Norman quoted on the record beefing, Eric read over a conference call written by an article in our very own. The undefeated where he was saying, Eric, let's just be real about what's going on here, whereas Colin cabinet to speak up for himself and, oh, by the way, this is big and it just one, man. We understand that what's happening to Colin cabinet is wrong, but this issue is bigoted him. And if we're about uplifting in helping our communities that takes precedent, which brings me back to Eric read, what does that reads? Real problem here max, you keep pointing to the numbers. You keep pointing to the deal, the intricacies of the deal itself. I'm willing to bet you check that. Eric re would not have a problem with this same exact deal that was reached. If a Colin cabinet had a job and be he was leading the front against the owners as opposed to Malcolm Jenkins, which means that the intricacies of the deal itself while may not while he may not like it. His real issue at the core of it all is. Is his lack of trust for individuals that he doesn't believe are lined with Colin cabinet's thinking that is fair. I understand where he is coming from, but in the end you this wasn't about Colin capital and it's not about you. And if you wanna make it about how Colin capping go, guess what? He took this knee and he's the one that spearheaded this movement understand in a roundabout way, and I'm being totally transparent here. It was really President Donald Trump because of Donald Trump doesn't show up at that rally in September, twenty second two thousand seventeen in Huntsville, Alabama and say, I'd fire all those SOB's. Jerry Jones would have never kneeled, and the players wouldn't have locked on unison as one entity and brand, and they would have never been at the negotiating table with those owners because Colin Cameron protests would have been exactly that. But Eric reading. For that. And then a process makes a public spectacle of himself in Barrasso himself and highlights a problem that exist within our community because every single time somebody black disagrees with somebody else who is black. It can't be a disagreement. It's got to elevate the character assassination with somebody's a sell up where I see points on both sides and I, it's my last one is I of your Lord Malcolm Jenkins because Malcolm Jacobs was class personified yesterday Damian when he said you couldn't pay me to address this subject. I am not going to insult. My brother is specially to y'all. I wish Eric read was that Kanda man on this particular Sunday, Stephen and Damian, I appreciate the point that it feels embarrassing when you have a movement, and this doesn't just happen with black. Stephen African American African Americans which make you feel better about it. This happens in all. Kinds of social movements. There are divisions and between the more radical and the less radical. And the reason I bring up the southern Christian leadership conference the SEC and the break with the NCC the student nonviolent coordinating committee, you know, back in the sixties is because that represents the same sort of thing. The more radical elements says your patient long game is not good enough. You know, as Martin Luther King said, Justice, postponed, his Justice denied, right, we need Justice now, and sometimes that division becomes public. And in this case it became public. So when I say Eric Reed has a point, I liked the way Malcolm Jenkins handled it very much what I mean is it they're, they're kind of illustrating the difference that is occurred in the civil rights movement and in most social movements between the less radical and the more radical. All right. I thought it was just an embarrassing situation. Like I said on this day, every greed is a smart brother. He's educated. He's a damn good football player, but he embarrassed himself on this Sunday afternoon. He's better than that, and it's a damn shame that he regrets to that point. You really is. Here's the positive all of their hearts are in the right place, right? Trying they're coming. Yes. My name is Lauren. I'm thirty three. I didn't want my identity to be the smoking mom. My first experience with jewel. I do remember being like distance, good. It's it's it's like a cigarette, but not. I don't miss smoking at all. Like I can officially say it grosses me out jewel is the tobacco alternative that delivers nicotine satisfaction without cigarette Asher lingering odor make the switch and j. u. l. dot com. Slash sports warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. With your sports center right now, I'm troubled scales bears fans for probably hoping their next level defense would at least slow down to pats, but this should have known better New England put up thirty eight plus for the fourth straight game. But it was the office for the bears around up holding their own was big up. The highlight here in the first quarter, Mitchell Trubisky from the gun. Got a whole lot of pressure in spaces. Go scramble around quite a bit. We've got to tell us race in tracking him, but those wondering seventy two yards. He ended up running in told him to get eight regardless six goes up on the board Gago go take civilian. Now later on in the second quarter, Cordeiro Patterson off the kickoff makes move his the right side and that brother is known a ninety five yard kickoff, return to the crib with a high five to boot brings the patriots within three. Now, third and go for the pats. James whiten flat whole lot of points scored in this one that would six more for James Mitchell Trubisky not-i'm left. Try to make something happen in this. Bad boy up sent into overtime. Potentially. Kevin white comes down to get stopped short tiles Brady chest was tight after all this. Hold your breath. I saw him jump up and catch it, and I couldn't obviously have angle on the goal line, but by getting close to the end zone and they were pushing them, we're pushing sure what probably half yard or yard pretty close. So if I hold out. Him out. Shutouts let's first take patriots escape with the win over the bears for patriot Damien. Woody still with us. Stephen am going to start with you on this one. Were they lucky or were they good New England? I'm going to say good because you know special teams as a part of a football team. And obviously they had two touchdowns off a special teams that run that you know, that punt return by Patterson kickoff return about that. It's in and obviously the block point that was manufactured itself into a touchdown, would hot tower block in the plot. So I definitely going to give credit with credit is, do I will tell you that the patriots do have some concerns did have eighty one yards rushing. Now, obviously a lot of it was the patriots defense land back and what have you. So we get all of that puts still an all eighty one yards eighty one yards. And you can't have a quarterback running that affectively against you. So I think that's something that New England is going to look at. But at the end of the day, Tom Brady got three touchdowns just wondering sections and two hundred seventy seven yards. When you look at. What is the Josh Gordon had four receptions for one hundred yards and I'm gonna pay attention to that because obviously you're talking about an adult men along with gronkowski ultimately, being back when he gets back in what have you got one of them situations where Josh Gordon is out there and he's able to give you something on top of what you know, adamant and gronkowski we'll give you still with Chris HOGAN out there too, had about six receptions for sixty three yards. I'm going to look at the brokerage and say, you know what? They can ball did a fourth rank offense in the National Football League. They still have Tom Brady and Josh mcdaniels. So I'm gonna look at them and I'm going to say, hey, you know what? They're damn good team and they on par to obviously try to defend their AFC crown the patriots or good, obviously. Good. What you said about special teams. Stephen a. I actually agree with when you see someone excelling on special teams at team, that feels a little lucky. Well, it's not for that that little weird part of the game they lost. That's one of the three phases of the game. You know, you gotta be sound in the kicking game. The patriots are always. Sound in every phase of the game, even they bend but don't break defense has worked for them to the tune of Super Bowls in recent years, but luck as branch Rickey the guy who help Jackie Robinson break the color line and invented the farm system in baseball luck is the residue of design. And boy, it seems the patriots get lucky a lot, and that's because they have the greatest coach of all time and Bill Belichick. And by the way I gotta give it up a quarterback who is still great and Tom Brady and is therefore able to lead not just because of his veteran presence. But with his play on the field, he can still command the respect of teammates which why go grab a guy like Josh Gordon, who's not working out in Cleveland, look how he's working out in New England. The least penalized team is in football right now, forget about the giants because they stink of all the decent teams, the patriots, their second least penalized the giants, but least penalized among all serious NFL teams right now, like real NFL team. And by the way you know, known roughing, the passer penalty is like roughing, the passer, we all decried. I hate it. It's. Ruining the game. Look it out Brady waltzes into the end zone because he's new stupid. Roughing. The passer penalties penalized for roughing, the passer, the patriots because whatever the rules are, however ridiculous Bill Belichick gets them, okay. He stills the discipline in the team and they don't make those stupid penalties. This is good. Even the luck is. Good luck is the residue of design this Bill Belichick's design. Yeah, I wouldn't classify anything with the pages have to do with luck. I mean, you're talking about team on on a Sunday where the pages constantly preached don't beat yourself. That's the easiest way to win football games in the National Football League. You don't be a team. They had three turnovers, all things pages. Turn a bowl of that many time, three turnovers, but still your resources will no to get to scores out of your special teams. Josh Gordon's come round no groped by the way. So this is a patriots team that they know how to use utilize all fifty three guys on the roster. Also sonum assail goes down with a knee injury, so you just continue to see pieces go down, but the patriots somehow some way. And it starts with coach Belichick being able to utilize the guys that he has a roster and puts them in position to win games on the block. Put you know, he put Dante hot towel guy who wasn't in that situation, but he saw something there with the special teams unit. Let me put Dante Hightower in there and what did he do goes out blocked the punt. They turned it into a special teams touchdown. So when I look at the world look when as far as the patriots, I don't look at it that way. I look at coaches that knows how to put their players at position and it's like they waxed the dolphin Stephen at a time where the dolphins were good, then they barely beat KC and it's at home, and it's only by three they didn't cover and all that. But okay, they still got the win. It was them. Then they go on the road and they beat the bears. Well, they struggled the last week defensively. There's always an excuse for every team every weekend where you could say, well, the book, meanwhile, you don't have to make excuses for the patriots. They're the ones that constantly win those gains. It's been happening for fifteen years. It's happening against this season that ain't look while we're on the subject of this. Let's keep in mind that Khalil Mack wasn't one hundred percent, but they neutralize them. Let's keep in mind that to Rico and this brother can play and he had a big game yesterday. I'm a fan of his as well. It was nice to see a Kevin white signing, even though most of it came on that fifty four yard hail, Mary pass that he caught. You only had to recess. On the day. But looking at Chicago right now, Trubisky is in great, but he's better than I thought he would be again, he's not great yet. He certainly wasn't good enough to beat New England. But in the end, you gotta look at it from the perspective that he's getting better the defense, even though they're not the monsters of the midway that we thought they would be somehow someway you got to believe in them to some degree. I'm going to give the patriots credit. What creditors do also because of who they beat. I don't think Chicago is a deplorable team. I think they've got some weapons that they've got a tremendous upside and and I like him. He's just that the patriots were better. Hey, trays and chargers, both five and two only the chiefs with a better record wash. So sharpie said easily beating the chiefs week. One don't forget that after the Jags are the two zero. The season, they have lost four of five in bench. Blake Bortles on Sunday Jalen Ramsey going on with fifteen. Yossi how it isn't here. We've I would each other. We've I've towards the coaches, Chelsea at is no secret. How what's going on here right now they nobody gonna say, 'cause no, we can't, but they know secret what's going on in ain't it ain't right right now. So what it is. Stephen a. it is what it is. What do you think about all that? Well, listen, I get. We're jailer Ramsey's coming from from this perspective. He's basically saying it's not about us. Now. Defense might be arguing with one another because obviously, you know, the locker room had to be closed off from reporters because we could see players and collapsed Campbell restraining one player from going after another under the defensive side of the ball because the belief is that guys are not doing their job because they're trying to overcompensate they're trying to do too much. But I think this notion that we attributed to, you know, the shine and and trying to be popular because they were known as an elite defense. That's not what's going on here. Here's what's going on. They know their quarterback stinks. They know that their offense without Lennon for net stinks. And as a result, they're trying to win games and they believe that, you know, just defending and stopping opponent. If not enough, they've gotta make plays and literally score. For them to win because they have no faith on the offensive side of the ball. Now I'm Blake. Bortles case. Keep in mind that ever a lot of people feel you should be looking at Tom Coughlin because Tom coffins executive VP for the Jacksonville, Jaguars signed Blake borders to a three year extension at fifty four million dollars in the off season in February because he looked good last year, twenty one touchdowns thirteen interceptions you know, had a decent season completed over sixty percent of his passes for the first time in his career. So Tom Coughlin got caught up in that source. Plus they wanted to trip knit cap hit from nineteen million, which would have been to ten million once they made the new deal to extend him holding his right through twenty twenty. He'll be the cheapest one of the cheapest quarterbacks in the NFL next season, and we get all of that. But if you the Jacksonville, Jaguars defense, you got a problem with everything in the organization because you like damn cheapness. We went to the AFC championship game last year. We're an elite defense and you bring us back this garbage. We can't do anything with this guy quarterback. We can't do anything. With this offense. So what are we going to do? We're going to beat with not going to be risk averse. We're going to go after it. We're going to take chances. We're gonna try to make things happen because that's the only shot we have of winning as a result guys might not do their jobs from time to time because they've been trying to do somebody else's job on top of their job. They make mistakes and they end up bickering with one another. But I assure you when they come down and they huddle in somebody's home or the next morning or whatever, and they really get down to the crux of what is going on with this team is gonna come down to this. I quarterback stinks. We got no shot at winning with ham and they know it and they still brought us behind that. That's our problem. We got a band together and hold off our frustration in that regard. But the real problem doesn't allow with us as a defense in laws with that damn, Blake Bortles and we just can't say it. That to me is what I'm getting from them. Lakers also here with us. Victor, what are your thoughts on this. I think he's absolutely right. I think I think Jalen Ramsey understands and that team understands that offense. They can't do anything. They're struggling with the loss of Leonard fournette struggling with blade borders inconsistencies. Hence why he got benched yesterday. They're struggling with that. And as a defense, he's looking around like, what are we supposed to do? We can only Ben but so much before we break. We only understand what we can do. And obviously the defense they'd been lands of points off is not obviously all on the offense, but it's hard to play that way when your back's against the wall and your your, your defense is expected to show up such a major way. So I agree. I mean, Jalen Ramsey understand but I don't know. I can't speak to what's going on in that locker room as far as that defense and guys being held back. We're doing radio understands that our quarterback stinks for life, a better work quarterback is not the type of quarterback that we need on this team to win ballgames and it's costing us right now. Here's the problem though for Jalen Ramsey. When you start talking and talking big to start the season and my hat's off to your Jalen Ramsey you going up against Odal Beckham junior, you're talking, you got torched, but people respect. I don't care if you're playing zone or man to man. There will be times where you will get blamed. The receiver makes a big play and you were going right at the baddest dudes in the game, and you had confidence not only in yourself putting your teammates on defense problem is now you've got to keep talking. You gotta keep talking when the going gets rough and the going got rough, and I'm going to get the Blake Bortles in a second and what he's really saying about that. Here's the bottom line. The Jags give up thirty to Kansas City. Okay. No big deal, right? Because Kansas City's defense showed out think. Then they gave up forty to the Cowboys forty to the Cowboys. And then you just gave up twenty two, the Texan, but forty to the Cowboys. I don't want it. Well, if we had four net, you can control the run that goes hand in hand with the defensive were demoralized by the quarterback excuses, excuse, you, forty to the Cowboys. Defense is not showing up and by the way, and this was in the ring or by the way, things like red zone defense even sacks. But especially takeaways, those are a lot of variants from year to year. In other words, some of that's luck and the Jags kind of as in addition to having a good defense locked up a little bit. Yes. Last year that regress to the mean, so they're now they're not getting that on defense. So is lake Bortles good enough? No, especially in this day and age. The numbers Blake Bortles puts up is just doesn't cut it. He shouldn't be a starting quarterback for the Jags, but the defense ain't doing their job right now, but the accidents go hand in hand. Those things like, you know, especially when the offense isn't doing well Jalen Ramsey and that defense like, man, we, what are we doing here as an effect on your morale, just like on the opposite. On the defense letting points offense. If you like, man, we do, but so much, but defense is mad at, you know, they're not helping us out in this regard max. Let me drop this on you to close this segment and just and just and just sleep on this. Just just for the commercial break. The Dallas Cowboys dropped forty on Jacksonville, fair enough. No excuses. Bottom line is you the Jacksonville, Jaguars you're a big time defense. You can't wilt beneath the storm because you're frustrated with your offense because elite defense is don't do that. I understand that point max, I'm closer segment by saying this. They may have given up forty the Dallas Cowboys. Do you know that the Jacksonville Jaguars defense has scored twenty eight points for the month of October. Twenty eight points for the month of October total. The very, there's a reason to be depressed. Sounds like Dom would be. Would be for net though, and obviously, TJ Yeltsin's also banged up and Carlos Hyde. They brought in. He hasn't played yet and they lost marquees league for the season as well. So the offense, they need that age. The way the offense is. There's almost no such thing as a great defense, you better have an office. Let's stay in the division the Texans, though, going in the other direction, they became the team in the Super Bowl era to win four straight games after an owned three start, here's Texans head coach, Bill O'Brien on how hard it is to win in the NFL. The how hard it is to win an NFL football game. I mean, it is the most difficult thing to do. I think in professional sports to go out and win an NFL football game their hard-fought. There's great players on on both sides of the ball and on special teams. There's these winds no matter how you win this team. This team fights. This team practices hard. They care about each other. I mean, really like somebody asked me the question last week, you know, I just don't. I get these questions here and I'm going, what does that mean? We didn't play well, and we still one. Okay. Whatever you decide is playing. Well, it's fine with me, but we want and we've won four in a row and now the key is can we keep it going? That's going to be the case. Ryan opening up with a little Brandt their right to go off like that max. Absolutely not. That's absurd. Nothing against Bill O'Brien, personally, but coach, there are as many losses as wins in the league every single year for the history of the game, there must necessarily be as money as many wins as losses. Is it hard to win? Yeah, coach, but some coaches are better at it than others period. Like, you know, if you value as a coach, you bring that you're judged against your peers. The thirty one other head coaches in the league. Some of them are better winning than others. There are fifty percent of the games worth of wins to go around and you get fewer of them than most guys. It's hard for everyone, but they're better at it. Then you period. If you were an NBA coach, you know what you would think the hardest thing in the world that professional sports is to win an NBA game because they're the exact same number of wins to go around his losses. And if you. Did in the NBA what you do in the NFL you'd have fewer of them. Then others, Bill O'Brien has not shown inability ability as a head coach to make a team better than the sum of their parts coach. I'm not saying it's easy coach. I'm not saying you're not one of the best thirty two coaches in the world you very well may be, but by the standards which are very high, we understand of NFL coaches. There are the, they're the bell curve over here on the far right end there the really good ones. Then they're the bunch of guys in the middle, and then there are ones that are not so good and right now, the category that you fall into or the not so good ones that's the way it is. You're being judged at the highest standards in the world, and you're failing to meet those standards. You know what you're right, and it's not a debatable item because we don't disagree, but I'm just gonna ticky late it from a different perspective. Billow Brian. I've always been a fan of him from the standpoint that he's no nonsense. He's can't. He comes across very candidate. He was the one that wants got nose to nose and challenge Tom Brady and had to be restrained. He wasn't taking any crap from Tom Brady on the sidelines during one game, and I and I really respect that. But the flip side to it is that when I listened to Bill O'Brien talk yesterday, I looked to Bill O'Brien as an individual that didn't want to be held to the standards that ultimately got him the job. He actually did a damn good job at Penn State is a head coach. He actually did a damn good job as coordinated in New England. The reality is, is that as a head coach, his record is thirty five and thirty six with the Houston, Texas. He's never won double digit games. He had a four and twelve losing season last year. The best he's ever been able to do as a nine, seven record back to back to back years and that's about it. Now, to me, there's nothing great about. That obvious the, you haven't even want fifty percent of the games that you have coached, and we understand that. But my point is that Bill Bill Parcells once said, you are what your record says you are, and it's like, Bill O'Brien doesn't want us to acknowledge that you know what you all what your record says you are. And in the end, he's going to have to make amends for that. He's going to have to deal with that reality because the bottom line is, is that you look at him and he's supposed to be this quarterback guru and everything else. And we've watched Shawn Watson sometimes we all believe in and what it comes down to is that regardless of what we want to slice it in Houston is a respectable team in JJ. Watt should win defensive player of the year ward. If he keeps playing the way to these playing. The reality is that you look at Bill O'Brien and you said I expected better. It's not that he's awful, but you did expect better from what from him then what you ever seed since he has been head coach at Houston. Texans Bill O'Brien is absolutely correct. It is very, very difficult to plan. Sleep you think about it? Right. You game plan all week long for the chance that the team is going to run the same place that you saw on film the weeks prior and they can come out and change everything that you've seen. And now you have to midstream adjust and figure out how you're going to beat this team. You have to battle injuries. You have to battle quarterback play. You have to manage your defense. It is very difficult to win in this league. So whether Bill O'Brien's record indicates who he is or how he is or what type of coach he is individually, what he's saying isn't false. It is hard to win in this league two thousand eleven. When we won the Super Bowl, we lost six straight games. And then we went on a tear and whatever the case may be. But those six games, we were looking around scratching our heads like, how are we gonna get? How are we going to right this ship? How are we going to figure this out? And Bill O'Brien is absolutely correct. It is very, very difficult to win in this league. I mean, asked the giants this year, obviously as certain teams around the league that don't have winning records or teams that have lost gains by margin. So smart field goal or things like that. It's. Hard to win in this league. Things have to go right for you throughout the course of a football game in order for you to win. So Bill O'Brien, what he's saying is absolutely correct. It is difficult to win game difficult for some than others. Exactly. Obviously, the New England Patriots aren't anomaly they, they make it look so easy that Bill Bryant's comments almost look negated at this point. Technology truth brought to you by Geico. Truth, teenagers can communicate entirely emojis. How why? Bob birthday party pizza slice kitten, soccer ball, pineapple truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance at geiko dot com. Why are you talking about paper clips shoulder, shrug, high, five wizard hat what gogo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. We're on the staple center Saturday night for the game, but for the big fight in the fourth quarter, the NBA suspending Brin Ingram, poor games Rajon Rondo three and Chris, Paul, Two games all without tastes Stephen a Smith. How about this fight for the NBA. On its face. It's not that bad. There was no jumping into the stands or anything like that. So we understand it wasn't. It wasn't bad in that regard. When you talk about spitting, that definitely is a bad look. It's a far worse look to Rajon Rondo again, a player that I like and for the most part could be on my team any day, but you just don't do what he did. It cross the line. Having said, all of that, I'm going to piggyback max and Molly off of the discussion that we were having in regards to ever agree and Malcolm Jenkins now, obviously, this is basketball. This is not the National Football League. There was no kneeling at NBA games or what have you contractually. It is always been in their contract that they must stand for the national anthem. So they would lock arms with one another and assisted in bringing attention to the kind of issues that Colin cabinet wanted us all to address and we understand that. But the flip side. To it is that there's a constituency out there who have it may be four, whether it's President Trump or anybody else that our opponents opponents of the protest, opponents of bringing attention to such things. And when you are conducting yourself in a fashion that allows folks to lean back and say, look at how they're acting, it defeats the purpose, maybe not for the NBA maybe not as it pertains to ratings and popularity, but certainly as it pertains to how we're looked upon as athletes and dare I say is black men, and I think that's something that we have to be cognizant of as often as we can get Brandon Ingram shoving, James harden in the back and God's about to get in a scuffle is one thing. But when the spitting in the face takes place, that's not a good look when the. Person that receives that happens to be the president of the players association fighting on behalf of the very players like Rondo who ended up spitting in his face. That's not a good look and ultimately has a detrimental effect on us. I want to pick up on where you left off right there. Stephen actual, in fact, the the NBA has been seen when David Stern took over as a quote, unquote black league, and there were concerns about how that would play in white America. And when I say white America or middle America, in fact, we saw in this last national election, the white people voted as a monolith as kind of a lockstep voting blocks. There is one and a white America that is, and that's a huge economic engine and the NBA did not want that the to exclude that market. And and so David Stern realizes he needed to change the perception of the negative stereotypes associated with a quote, unquote black leagues. So for example, there was a dress code in the NBA that was strictly enforced and can. Serie participation in the national anthem and all those things. So I understand what you mean when you say the perception of the league guys spitting on each other, a Malay, all those kind of things. I would say this about the fight. If this is an isolated incident, it's okay if anything can even spike interest temporarily so long as this is not a pattern of violence on the court, and I will also say this, and this is interesting because it cuts the other way. You don't want to be the NHL of quote unquote, very white league, right? Like you don't wanna be that where you may not even be ojected for fighting. There's no automatic objection for fighting in the NHL. It's part of the culture of the league. And on the one hand, well, they enforce their own unwritten rules and all this stuff. On the other hand, it's never really caught on to become truly the fourth with jitters major American team sport. And I believe partly that's because of the violence. It appeals to as you put it, Stephen, a, the very kind of core constituency, the hard fans, but alienates others. And I don't think the NBA. A wants that racial issues aside. I think the NBA does not want to be seen as a league out of control. I don't think they are. I think this is an isolated incident. It's okay, but clearly you don't wanna pattern of violence on the court, and this wasn't the ideal ninety there with all the is on LeBron and his home opener Staples Center. So they couldn't be happy with the timing. Tatra mountains broke the NFL record for most touchdowns in his first eight games with twenty two in the twos, forty five, ten beatdown of the Bengals for the first time since two thousand thirteen. The chiefs scored forty or more points in back to back games max calendar in this chiefs offense take up all the way to the Super Bowl and hotlanta could. I'm not picking them to do it. But the fact is there's no stopping this offense, but I wanna remind everybody the Super Bowl last year. There was no stopping either offense until one of the teams made a single defensive play. Basically that was the no punt Super Bowl. And the first time a team made a defensive play the eagles. They won the game, and I asked you in the AFC who is more likely. To make that defensive play between the chargers and the chiefs. The chargers are more likely, especially when they get back. I will also remind you chiefs for six in one chargers are five and two, and they played each other game one. And the chargers dropped a million passes that is unlikely to repeat itself. Those normally sure handed receivers. I still like the chargers over the chiefs to get out of the AFC. I got the chiefs going to the Super Bowl. I'm there. I just think their offenses to explosive. They have too many weapons, and everybody's caught up Patchett Mahomes tremendous and has a rifle open arm. And what have you. I'm I'm quarterback Kareem hunt and tyreek hill. I think both of these guys are electrifying, you know what they do after catches. There's something special to behold and I am and what I'm seeing from opponents going up against the Kansas City Chiefs. I'm seeing folks scared of their offense. They're literally frightened when they're out there on the football field. They're not just beating people. They're beating them down and did demoralizing them. They're taking their heart. They're taking the heart of opposing defenses. You could just see the Cincinnati Bengals last night was the latest example. I think that's the first time in all my years, watching the Marvin Lewis team, I actually felt sorry for him. I wanna know from Stephen a. at some point this week, at some point this week, I want you to put in. Order because they have four special players in crude include Travis Kelsey, put in order the most special between Mahomes hill hunt and Kelsey. I'm very curious to know the answer there at leaving the main hill hill Mahomes hill McCaw Mahomes. And then obviously one hundred Kelsey weaken debate that non picking the patriots, the dull back again. Interesting. All right, that'll do for us here on I take. We'll see you same time tomorrow. Now it's time for a Hannah storm and Jay Harris for centers. Next, have a good day guys. Thanks much villes into the podcast. Could I take weekdays, ten AM eastern on ESPN.

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The Herd-HOUR 1-Seahawks, Brady, Cowboys, Mayfield

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

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The Herd-HOUR 1-Seahawks, Brady, Cowboys, Mayfield

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You see fight my wife this morning my wife text me she goes what's going on with football she'll get crazy the the the early window Games was insane insane. So I want to start with this, you know how general managers will sign quarterbacks early and sometimes like Carson Wentz is injured and stuff and you're like, why are they doing that? The reason they do that is because quarterbacks now are so important you just. Once. You find one and you think he's the right person. You, sign him. You hope you get a little bit of a financial break over the next five or six years. This league is all about quarterbacks. Seven Games in. Tom Brady has transformed the buccaneers franchise. Bill Belichick. Have you watched New England Ballot check the smartest football coach ever. has won forty three percent of the games in his career. When he didn't have Tom Brady starting Pete Carroll fired twice fourteen and eighteen in Seattle Pre Russell Wilson. Mike McCarthy five and Rogers looked like one thing seen Dallas this year. We talk about strategy you know the difference between facebook. And myspace it ain't strategy. It's Mark Zuckerberg. That's your strategy stop talking about strategy Tom Brady, and seven weeks has changed the franchise. Now, you got guys like Gronk is retired suddenly walks like. Another couple of years Antonio. Brown, had his choice I'll go play with Tom that's the power of Tom, the power of Lebron it's what legend do. And Look Arrogant New England New England member that article couple years ago. One of the assistant said we win with a lot of quarterbacks here we got Cam and that's working. In, this divorce one has remarried and is flourishing and New England is living in a van down by the river. Andy Reid went from can't win the big game to the leader of the next dynasty. Thanks to Patrick Mahomes. John. Harbaugh was going to get run out of Baltimore then something called Lamar Jackson happened I like strategy I like data. I can be football nerd. It's about the dude it's about Brady Bella checks one, forty, three percent of his games. He's as smart as anybody ever been in this league and when you get Lebron or you get Brady it's not just about their game James Winston. Big Strong kid beautiful arm throws her the wrong team too much scout sorts of talent. It is about accountability. It's about leadership. It is about holding teammates to a standard that the organizations never had before. Think about this it was two weeks ago New England goes on the road and is against Chicago eleven penalties Brady is yelling at everybody what you here in Tampa Tom's mean back to back games. No turnovers, no sacks allowed four penalties in two games that's called accountability. It's not about talent James at Talent Brady. Lebron hold you accountable I like Frank Vogel I like Ta ta Lou. But. Lebron's made those dudes a lot of money and giving them a lot of fans. It's not about strategy with Lebron. It's not about strategy with Tom Brady. It's about coming into the room and changing the temperature of it. You hold everybody accountable and your leadership and your efficiency. It is unbelievable to watch Tampa, and by the way you knew it wasn't going to be easy. There's no preseason Tom Getting older. We knew it wasn't going to be easy new system new coach, but this is not a Bruce Arians story the bruce. Arians book has been written. No no risk it no biscuit throw the ball down the field be aggressive really loose Tampa. Still all those things they got rid of the loose because they got Tom Brady and he's totally accountable. He holds everybody accountable meanwhile in New England this morning. Here's the questions their coach is being asked. You plan on having tenderness or quarterback on four. Yeah absolutely. Want to give a little experience. It's not about experience it's not about strategy. I like Andy Reid I think Pete Caroline Ballot Check First Ballot Hall of famers. But Mike McCarthy watch the cowboys today. This is why franchises signed quarterbacks early, even ones with injuries are you watching the chargers and Justin Herbert? They'RE GONNA sign him early guarantee they're gonNA send him two years early. Joe Borough in Cincinnati Cuyler Marine Arizona sign them early get a discount so hard to find the right guy and when you do in Tampa did it took them you know fifty years of their franchise to find a quarterback they change the temperature of the franchise in seven games of this morning is the best team in the NFL. From the Pacific northwest. Proud for years and years to be a Husky and Seahawk Fan. And last couple years has seen me just can we let Russell Wilson takeover the team a little bit can we let Russ? Rattle called. Let Russ. Cook. An I love the saying Ross Cook. But we didn't ask that he runs the whole damn restaurant. He needs a little help as he's cooking. Could you have a prep cook? Could you have a general manager? Could you have some waiters? Could you have somebody washing the dishes? I know he threw three interceptions last night but unfortunately, he has no help. They can't cover anybody know pass rush myles Garrett has nine sacks this year the Seattle seahawks team has nine secs. The leader of the seahawks in sacks is Jamal Adams he's not only a safety he's only played three games. They can't guard anybody they can't cover they can't get pressure. They're giving up six point, three yards of play. You WanNa know the other two teams that are close to that Atlanta one in six and Jacksonville one in six. Seattle should be one in five. Do you know how bad the Dallas Defense is? I mean we're all like acknowledging how bad it is. Seattle's given up more yards. In, one game. We. Want Russ to cook. The Cook. Even if he's a five star chef needs a little help, there's a reason that Russell Wilson throw some picks and one was really bad. It should be noted his really bad one did not result in any Arizona points because decay metcalf is. Not. Human. The point being. If you watch what is happening right now in Kansas City with mahomes. Yesterday last week. They ask Mahomes Five, six, seven times a game. Gobi special. In. Seattle they asked Russell Wilson to be Special The minute he leaves the team hotel to get on the bus, and then they ask him in overtime to make more great plays. There's a difference between let Russ Cook and Force Russ to run the entire restaurant, they have gotta make a move. This is I mean it's in he's everything. That's why I don't understand when Pete Carroll got. Conservative. In regulation you trust this defense. And by the way Russell Wilson, Seattle is becoming James Harden with the Houston. Rockets it can be mesmerizing historic it is fascinating. But there's a reason that James Harden is out of gas by the first round every year. And you're gonNA run Russell Wilson absolutely into the ground. With this football team, he needs help something anything Tyler Lockett. Who again came out of college is sort of a gadget guy. Thank God that works I mean cross your fingers and those two are unbelievable but if you look At how Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson are sort of allowed to grow jared Goff. You'll watch that tonight. You're allowed your ass to be special a half dozen times. You're not asked to be special the minute you get off the bus even after the Game Russell. Wilson is willing to take all the heat for the entire franchise. I thought we played a great game except for those three players I mean honestly and those are my fault. So. You know there's so much that we can do and we have so much confidence or conference is not GonNa Waiver they're great football team to and. was going to be a battle and always in down here and whenever we play. So nothing really changes except for the fact that we just have to tighten up some things I have to be better. Total pro. That's what you do sense that you know things could unravel here, which they very easily could just say it again seattle allow six point three yards play to other teams in the League or close to that. They're both awful Atlanta with Matt Ryan I like Matt Ryan. When his events is bad there one in six. You Russell's five and one. jags. Gardner Minhsiu we he was something special. They allow six years of play. Yeah. They're one in six two. So, now. Cuyler Murray for the record. He doesn't have a ton of support either without Chandler Jones. He made a couple of he made one terrible interception both guys did it was a mirror image right? But again, you're asking cuyler. Murray to save the franchise. So I thought I thought what you saw with the present and what you saw perhaps with the future of the League is. You can ask Cuyler Russell to be special seven eight times and they're worth thirty, five, forty, million a year if they are. But if you become the rockets in, you're asking hardened to play thirty eight minutes in score forty, seven points it doesn't work. You're going to run these guys in the ground. By the way Tom Brady last week against Green Bay. They wanted to route brady threw for one hundred and sixty six yards make about four big throws. He did you got to allow your quarterback to breathe a little off the bus. Coming up next. I don't advocate for firing people. It Michigan. Brady Hoke I. was like, okay it's time. Let's move on but but we have a situation in Dallas where a very successful man. Needs the just tilt a franchise on it side and fire everybody. Now that's coming up. 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Kinda Maria I'm watching the tape that's better than when I got and I'm GonNa roll the dice with Cliff Kingsbury because the League is changing. In if he doesn't own up to the mistake, it's Josh. Rosen. Steve wilks fifteen. They're not working. You gotta own it. Dallas has to own it. Jerry Jones netflixing Amazon don't even resemble the companies they initially worked don't even resemble it why that doesn't work it doesn't work that doesn't work. There's Work Reed Hastings Jeff Bezos. They may have EGOS, but they're not big enough to get in the way of acknowledging something's not working. Successful people all over America make mistakes own it might McCarthy's a bad higher too bad hire. You whiffed move on I mean Andy Dalton gets crushed yesterday not a single cowboy player goes over and confronts the guy with a cheap shot John Boston. I'm not talking about fistfights here, but you gotta protect your quarterback. In the NFL it is an Unspoken like if somebody does this to your quarterback, you gotta go after Bostick and confront him. The. Cowboys are not a team. They're just fifty five guys wearing the same shirt. Nobody's there to confront bostick say anything only one cowboy went over to help Andy Dalton and spare me on this whole. DALLAS, it'll take time it's a new system Oh Baloney Carolina's got matt rule got a quarterback. He's a college coach. He'd never been in NFL coach I watched Carolina yesterday I watched Carolina four times this year they're competitive. Ron. Rivera. Battling Cancer Washington's competitive. I, mean I'm watching a Stefanski in Cleveland five and two. There are more than competitive. This, this is the same roster. It's the same offensive system. They kept the coordinator. Right Kevin. Callan more they kept him to same roster. Shares so you have got to acknowledge if you're Jerry Jones and I know it's hard but go look at how much fun Arizona is to watch. Because the general manager and the owner and they talked about it last night during the game just said. Hey We may have made a mistake here. We hired a coordinator made him. A coach wasn't ready and we drafted a college quarterback. He's okay. We like to build on him but oh my gosh, there's this kid on tape and Oklahoma who's way better. You just have to own it. It's OK. Go Higher. Ryan. Date. Ohio state urban. Meyer Lincoln Riley. But. It'd be Microsoft years ago created A. Device called. Remember Zun most don't it bombed zone was going to replace the the ipod right? You know what Zun is now for Microsoft because Bill Gates acknowledged that didn't work. It's a good laugh. It's a write off and it doesn't define Microsoft because they're like, yeah we were competing against apple in apple doing other stuff and we oh, we kinda left on that bone next thing and that's why Microsoft is back better than ever greater earnings than ever stock prices up although nothing up today the point being is it doesn't define them because they moved off it. In Arizona football today is fun and Glorious and wild and crazy and everybody loves it because they owned it. Dallas owner Jerry owner you whiffed. You hired a guy that was I mean first of all, he lied, he said he watched all your games second of all this analytic nonsense. That's not true. Just own it. Otherwise you're going to be defined by this for half a decade. You're going to be defined by what this is right now go back to being fun progressive smart go to the offensive side of the ball go to college like everybody else is doing joy the news. No heard on the news. This is the third line news. Well big news this morning Adele left yesterday's game early in the first quarter with a left knee injury. The browns feared that it was serious and just Anderson reported this morning and an MRI confirmed that Lovie Bj has sworn his ACL he will miss the remainder of the season. It didn't I mean obviously he's in a lot of pain here but. It I say it looked like he was an ACL tear but this is just Is this this sucks like there's no other way to put it. It's really disappointing how things are going to end up ending for Odell in Cleveland's not that I ever thought this was a perfect fit for down. But it's just like Oh Dallas such a star and such a electric player to watch. It feels like we haven't been able to see the potential though del in Cleveland that we saw with the giants when things are going well with the I'm not sure what the market is. Anymore I mean to be honest with you. He's kind of defined by injuries now like I understand the market like shrinking up. Once he's healthy against someone will someone will sign him I mean. It's I mean I'm obviously I'm assuming that Brown don't keep him at this point but. That's just that's what's GONNA end up happening. He just has too much his too much potential. We've seen what he's able to do even with the injuries. It's just it just seems like there's always one more obstacle when it comes. So Dowa with his with his body and I never thought if you go look, there's some data out there we had this morning is it was never a great fit in Cleveland remembered DAX struggled with Dez. Young quarterback Big Star received we have we have Baker though if you look at Baker without Odell where he kind of spreads the ball around like he did Oklahoma is a much better quarterback I always feel like Daqing Dez didn't work instead of demanding Dax o'dowd's let DAX sprinkle it around and grow I think Baker would have been better not feel 'em listen it. It's not like Odell demanded you told the ball dome it's almost unspoken star. RECEIVER COMES TO CLEVELAND YOU GOTTA, make sure he's Happy Dallas similar to levy on New York was great with everything that was put on him in Cleveland I. Mean we didn't think it was a good fit in Cleveland Spike Cleveland screaming and hollering about how wrong we were. But Odell never complains about it. He always bought into the situation there. He always supported Baker and support the team make there was never a point where I felt like. He was the problem in Cleveland Ohio bigger issues. Yeah. So this is this point news. Hopefully, Doug gets gets back healthy and is able to perform again. So the Patriots hit a new low yesterday thirty, three, six to the forty niners Cam Newton had another poor performance nine to fifteen, ninety, eight yards and three interceptions the twenty seven point loss in the patriots largest homeless in the bill belichick era Jimmy G. played well enough to win. These star on the offense was running back Jeff Wilson who scored three touchdowns Jimmy Dean was twenty, twenty, five, two, hundred, seventy, seven, yards, two interceptions Cam said this morning that he was not surprised ballot check fence Jimmy said W.. E is I'm a realist, but I think this obviously everyone is going to pay attention to how the Patriots are what happened with the Patriots yesterday. We buried the forty niners too soon. Yeah. Because when Bosa got heard yes, and that loss the dolphins was bad. Yeah. Did you meet? He didn't look great the week after your watch the rams tonight rams are bad call from being five and one. A punched him in the forehead for four hours. This is a really good team with exceptional talent They missed Bosa and I don't think there are super bowl team because I think both the icing he takes you to another level but they draft a good defensive linemen. We buried a way to, and if you look at their schedule Joy, I did today this morning they face six like Seattle Dallas defenses down the stretch. there. They'RE GONNA win a lot of games. Now coaching great cultures also yeah, and they they they're schedule. Actually it looked before the season UCI and Dallas and the saint like those are bad defense buffalo. So they've got a bunch of defenses coming up they're going to be able to move the football control the clock, and do that. They're still a good team I'm I'm with you I don't think there are super bowl team this year. But there are still a good team. Yes. So the dodgers are one win away from the first world series title since eighty-eight jobs not done by the way that night did runs. that. was. Last night that'll game was great Clayton. Kershaw. Had A strong outing in game five allowing only two runs in five and two thirds innings although it did look a little. He wasn't a little sketchy. There wasn't quite as dominating, but I mean, they got it was just one of those games where. This is a classic. You were one pitch away from being down heading into game six of the series you just got you got to. This game is was so much about inches when you Tampa had guys on late in your, we're all doing the even the pitcher for the dodgers role doing the same thing we're like in listen we live in. Los Angeles at dodger town. This could of easily won one bad pitch gone. The other one I'm rooting for the dodgers. Yeah. He also struck out six batters to reach two hundred, seven total in the postseason which makes the all time leader in postseason strikeouts. He's redefining a little bit. He needed this. He's obviously Sandy Colfax it's not a hall of fame argument. He needed to have a stronger postseason and he has he did the we're showing the MLB postseason strikeout leaders Clayton Kershaw it's two hundred seventy pass Justin verlander with two hundred, five, John smoltz one, thousand, nine, Andy Pettitte one, eighty, three and Roger Clemens wants seventy-three. This. Was a this was a nice treats of a game after the way the game for it. I really like there's times where I catch myself like something happen. Like. It happened yesterday with with decay metcalf. There's a certain things where I'll literally be like sitting at home and watching it and I'm like. Like I have the react. Final play of the dodger law sat that was so I couldn't like my brain couldn't process what happens. Yeah. This is actually ended up being a great world series and really done. The dodgers bullpen is lousy enough to make this fascinating because they're really a great closer away from being really really tough to beat but even now I'm like D- have they announced yet when they're aces going, are they going to hold him for game seven? The dodgers, are they going to do a macgyver and game six and throw a bunch of relievers out there? Okay. So their game six probably goes to Tampa because they're going to try to do what I did for dinner. The other night when the wife's Outta town I had a bowl of cereal, scream licorice and. Cough Syrup. So they're going to try to macgyver game six in Tampa is GonNa win. Seven. Year with. This company. Enjoy with the news. Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by. Heard lie news. So I'm watching the Bucks Raiders Game March Larry has gotten some good game. So Mark Sheriff three, Super Bowl rings. You know that two time pro bowler joining US brought to you by. Benz the best or nothing. You know there there has been sort of this I kind of laugh at Tom Brady mark because first of all, he looks. So young I there's some skin oil. He's using your something's happening because he looks so young but when you watch them yesterday, do you go back seventy years? Does he look the same as the ball a little off? Though he looks exactly the same. He doesn't look like he's lost any Balazs on the fast ball. Obviously, you know he understands where he wants to go with a football he communicates where he wants his receivers be with ball placement. Incredibly accurate on the deep ball I mean. He just was throwing dimes right and left yesterday it was an amazing performance three, hundred, sixty, nine yards, four td's throwing and he had a rushing td as well. Being this guy is really you know it's so funny because I asked him early in the season had early in the season in where are you? Just? Hey, I'm dating this offense I was married for twenty years dating office and I said to him, did you get the third base yet with? The second right? That's why I am with this offense live into saga. So they just keep building on this offense his receivers keep building a he said something to me. That was one of the most interesting things that I've heard calling I. Think you're GonNa really appreciate this. He says, you know in New England this time of year I would always go to the side with my receivers and we were why the defense was playing. We'd be working on a row to row combinations where want guys to be he goes it's so damn hot and Tampa that during those breaks when the defense. Is, doing placed were trying to recover. So I'm not getting the extra work that I got for twenty years in New England my guys to tire from one, and then the heat. So I have not been able to kind of do the extra stuff that I liked to do with my guys really interesting kind of perspective of the difference between playing a cold weather city in plain on a hot city like Campbell it is fascinating and you gotta give Tampa credit not only did gronk come over which matters now because the bucks of lost tight end for the year but they've got Tyler Johnson. A rookies now? Scott Miller. So it till and they're going to bring in. Antonio Brown. So they're giving Tom more and more weapons. They understand guys get hurt you when you look at Tampa's defense. It's really fast a people worry about the back end but for people that didn't watch all of this game, are you confident that this is a super bowl defense? Absolutely and you know people worrying about the back end just because the guys young and they don't know any of them. I'm telling you what they are as talented back in is anybody in football they got three guys. You can legit cover Carl Davis legit cover corner as is Sean Murphy Bunting. Jamal Deen their fastest. DB and he's a great player. You saw him have the pick six against the Green Bay packers two weeks ago, and then there two safeties I mean. Jordan Whitehead will come up thump you in the chest and so will Antoine Winfield Antoine. Louisville junior is a three level safety. Megan Bliss can play in the boxes linebacker and he's a good middle of the field defender as well. So people just don't know them. They're young and people look at that as a you know a detriment, but it's not they're really good. They're super aggressive Todd Bowles has been playing and all put their two inside linebackers against any two inside linebackers in football. They are fast they are filthy they are nasty and they do sing in my mind. They do things like junior ceo back in the day they do things that are unsound are so fast and They're so good at reading in diagnosing things. They'll do a few things that are unsound at times and that they're making a four yard tackling the backfield I mean it's amazing. How good they are all three levels of this deep put pass rusher Jim with J. P. P. Jack Barrett. I'm telling you what they're outstanding defensive football team the kind of deep as it can lead you to a championship. So you are supposed to do the Arizona Seattle game, but it got moved. So you end up getting Tom Brady that's that's not a bad. You know second prize. So you've covered Seattle in Arizona before. Airing Jones one. I think seven of ten. There's a lot of stuff going in the right direction here but I said about Seattle, everybody's GonNa talk about the three interceptions, but they're becoming the Houston Rockets with James Harden it's mesmerizing but U he's exhausted by the end of the season Russell Wilson they're allowing six and a half yards a play the reason he's throwing interceptions. One of the reasons is he's everything is letting US cook it. He runs the restaurant and I just wonder with Russell Wilson. Could you just wear them out I? Mean they they are so reliant on everything. What do you make these two teams in specifically Seattle? Yeah I mean with Russell. Wilson you know I, said this is the first broadcast season but says, let Russ Cook I said how about just let them simmer you can get a great meal a Crock Pot. On the counter all day YOU'RE NOT GONNA burn your kitchen downright and that's historically been what they have been. You know they're going to run the ball they're gonNA they're going to set up some play Action Russell GonNa take some shots down the football field. They're outstanding that way but I I am with you. They have got to find a pass rush. They've got a tie them the front end of their defense to the back end of their defense because now the one that you see on a consistent basis is they can't generate pressure they can't get to the opponents quarterback so Even. If you're in great coverage I don't care who you are in the national football. You can't cover the receivers that exist in this league for three and a half seconds. It's it's impossible. It's not going to happen. So until they can a kind of tie that front and the back end which I don't know where you're going to go to find a passer they they don't they don't grow on trees and and there's not a lot of guys that are readily available unless you could find a trade somewhere with a team that's just reeling and they don't WanNa pay a guy. That to me is going to be the only option that you're going to have it I. Just don't know how many teams are willing to let go of a legitimate like big time war daddy pass rusher. They don't let those guys out. So I said this earlier is that what's amazing about Arizona is that Steve wilks was a coach a year and a half ago, and then they just admitted we made a mistake. He's a coordinator, not a coach, Josh Rosen they're like not. We're going to upgrade, and now they're not defined by that nobody talks about that. It's okay. Everybody makes mistakes I look at Dallas mark and I think okay. If you don't make a move on the staff really quick. You're going to be defined for the next half decade in this division by that like I think Dallas and I never in fire the coach Guy I. Think it is. It's just you whiffed it happens jarrier billionaire. You're a smart Guy Yo whiffed I think I'd Clean House and I do it by Thanksgiving your thoughts. Well. My thoughts are was that going to change like if there's a difference between empowering a coach in appointing coach so you're going to appoint another coach listen if you won't empower bill parcells, what makes you think you're in a power anybody? I, it's just not gonNA. They'll never win unless Jerry steps down from his role as a grand ball things football and empower somebody to make decisions like as an owner you know what your job really is to do write checks. That's your job yet jerry is out there the forefront of the organization having post game press conferences being on a radio show telling him everybody. About team twice a week or whatever it is I mean is circumventing your coaches authority every every term that's been the organization that's the structure of the organization and I just don't believe you win with that structure in place. Think about this calling just last week when they lost right just last week when they lost to Arizona on what was Monday night game they lost Arizona. The next day players come out anonymously right anonymously and rip on the coaches. They don't know what they're doing. They don't have US prepared. Why do that? If you're coach has authority, you don't do that. Right they don't have authority. So that is a direct pipeline to our owner. Oh, things aren't going well, it's not us the players, the coaches like at at some point, really hold your organization accountable, empower the people that you hire. Give them the power of make a decision and ultimately whoever it is that's whining and complaining and being out there throwing anonymous quotes you should fire that guy that guy should get fire by the way your quarterback gets laid out and not one guy like you WanNa talk about cultural just just lack of lack of culture lack of anything football. Wise. Your quarterback gets out you just stand around and watch it. Like the at some point, somebody's got thrown fists in that Situation Yeah and I'm not condoning violence but that is Baloney yeah, and that's that organization right now and it starts at the top with Jerry. Yeah. By the way, only about a minute left March Laura. I watched Pittsburgh Tennessee and I thought Oh they're gonNA play again. They're going to play again like that's that is not the last time they're gonNA play I. It's funny. The first half I thought Pittsburgh and I picked Pittsburgh win. They rolled them second half. I'm like, Oh, Tennessee figured it out rails very good coach if they were to play again. Would you still Pittsburgh? I would I think Pittsburgh just from a offense of standpoint, the weaponry standpoint, and also defensively their ability to create pass rush opportunities their ability to pressure the opponents quarterback I. I just think they're really good on both sides of the ball that way I would give Pittsburgh slight edge but I'm a harper sent with you on variable Rabl has taken so much from that. Bella check tree if you will that Bella check knowledge about the rules and how do you know how to circumvent put guys in great positions and how to adjust halftime adjustments all those things that Tennessee seems to be able to do I just really think he's a hell of football coach Mark Schleyer three Super Bowl rings. Good seeing you buddy. Thanks for coming on. Man I'll talk to you soon buddy. Yeah he was gonNA have the seahawks Arizona game. He got the bucks instead wasn't quite the game but you got Brady that defense I think right now Tampa the best team in the NFL coming up next I thought the media and fans really missed the story. Of Cleveland's win over Cincinnati. It's not Baker Mayfield talk about that plus Colin Right Colin wrong top of next hour on a Monday coming up be sure to catch live editions of the heard weekdays at noon eastern nine. Am Pacific apartments. 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Except when he plays Cincinnati, if you look at his numbers against his entire career, thirty games against everybody not named the bengals. He completes sixty one percent of his throws and his passer ratings eighty-three since he's been in the League, the bengals defense has sucked. It's terrible and it's bad this year better than last year. But bad we know what the bengals are there bad. That's the number. One draft pick when Baker plays the bengals he's amazing hundred and eleven passer rating five and one and every time he beat Cincinnati. We're like Oh Baker. Did you watch last week against Pittsburgh? He was overwhelmed. Did you watch week one against Baltimore, he was overwhelmed stopped trying to convince me what Baker is. He's not a bust, but he's darn close. He's not good. Except against the Bengals the story yesterday as Joe Borough who threw for four hundred and six yards against myles Garrett, and that Defensive Front myles Garrett the only guy in the league you can compare Aaron. Donald he's it. You keep can't blocked myles Garrett. He's the only thing in this league that looks like Aaron Donald You can't block him. In two games this year. Borough has been sex seven times by the BROWNS. Baker Mayfield in two games against Cincinnati's pass rush hasn't been sacked at all. Yes. The story is Joe Borough Seven. Games in the NFL a bottom four offensive line. No Joe Mixing no running game. One of his best receivers also rookie not as no training camp no preseason. The bengals head coach who knows if he can coach. Joe Borough got into a gunfight was sufficiently unarmed and almost pulled it off. You gotTa stop trying to convince me bakers anything more than below average. That's what he is except against. Cincinnati and in the time bakers been in the League Cincinnati's defense has been historically atrocious. So I'm not gonNA count. The bengals winning go. On and go back seven days to the Pittsburgh game and go woo. or go back a month and a half to the Baltimore Game Baker and go. ooh. You are defined in this league not by wins. Who Do you beat Bent Ben. Rothlisberger. Has got a bunch of wins. He doesn't have enough over Brady. He doesn't have enough in February that's where Brady's got wins. That's why brady ago because he wins in January and February lot guys went in November October Lotta guys. One for years in September October, it got Patrick Mahomes now he wins in February and that that defines you in this league. It's not about beating Cincinnati so and burrow. He went to the Tom Brady School of quarterbacking after the loss, here's what he had to say. That's what I expect myself. Exciting but. Nice myself to do that every week. On my end up in the game I'm. Comfortable and confident that I'm going to go down and make the play to win. Unfortunately. Baker's plan on his mind. That Dr After. Yes. Baker is great against Cincinnati he has been. For the record virtually every quarterback looks great against Cincinnati. That is that is not news. It's not breaking the idea been just just say this out. Loud. If you live in Ohio just say this out. Loud. Humiliated, by the steelers a week ago. Baker Mayfield went on to win narrowly against the bengals. Is that sound like I'm supposed to be blown away? Or say this out. Loud. Working with the bottom three offensive line. A coach, we don't know that. Any good. With no running game facing the second best defensive Lineman in the NFL Joe Borough threw for four hundred yards. Oh by the way no training camp no preseason. No TA's. Everybody got the story. Wrong. The story is good Lord Between Justin Herbert of the chargers cuyler Maria Vera. And Joe Borough yesterday I don't care if they all I know is I watch those games that is the future of the league like if you're the chargers, you're the bengals Arizona don't live in the moment. Don't don't don't don't live in the Arizona's not one in the Super Bowl. Okay. Good. chargers aren't one of the Super Bowl bengals aren't making the playoffs. But you talk about talent. And I I got I. Listen I thought he'd be Tony Romo. He may end up being a lot better than Tony Rumble and Tony. Romo will get hall of fame votes. Like, borough is his sensational talent and he's really having an incredible when you can text realize it inconsiderate what he's dealing with. He's having an absolutely incredible rookie season blown away by borough. Wreck more than a grill. It's a lifestyle built by. Four pillars wreck tech with a q dot Com R. E. T. E. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 2

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 2

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Gotta be real careful out. There's already some increase has to find it. There's already a few little Fender benders out. There key. Come and you're gonna you're gonna have to store Johnson that this is all caused mine. El Nino front coming L Nina was a while ago now. But again when four probably is there's a new Nie-nieto is it. As Monaco is building the wall. So much lies are happening all and down PCH through Calabasas through the canyons Malibu canyon. Up to Santa Barbara area. So it's it's just Powells a month. They gotta bring in big tractors. The move move all the mud out of the way, I'll be bringing mode into the studio probably gonna say it rains. I've worry about what's going to look after L Z's done stomp and his music discussions instructions. To get a little much coach, right? Bye. Bye. House and this dude decided to walk. They're redoing the entire street that least about you know, how bumpy. It was right. Of course, jolly pay taxes because of the trees Caspian, Los Angeles. Yes. Premature talking to Raj in Raja's new win in your ear. Sue bad. Tennessee to push. He's pushing pushing for in the wrong year. It's not time to do that. But it is time to pull back the pigskin. Hi, steve. That's right. Let's start with the first game. We saw on Saturday got the NFL divisional playoffs started. That was right. The chiefs beat the colts thirty one to thirteen this'll be the chiefs first appearance in the AFC championship game since nineteen Ninety-three Keyshawn. When you look at it. You talk about Kansas City was able to do take care of business. They took care of business because Indianapolis Colts just like New England took care of business against our slash LA slash sandiego slash Carson. The city we got Costa Mesa lib. Chargers. Kissed him. But when you look at Kansas City going into this game Kansas City, you'll be heavily favored and heavily favored by more than one point roster. Three points on the definition. What I think when you talk about the New England Patriots. And Tom Brady, everyone counted them out a lot of people say that they were not gonna get grass. Or are we doing we're on the chiefs and not doing I'm going to switch back to if he's let me to do we even narrative? Okay. Yes. Say Tom Brady going into Kansas City is something special but Patrick Mahomes, especially if you watch the weight and now we're back on a chief. You got to do what he's doing? Go ahead. I'm with you. You gotta sometimes just focus and go. Magic Mahal's in in in what they do ofensive Lee entire keel is a lot is a lot of weapons disposal. And I don't think the New England Patriots can handle that's Jewish in at all. You know? What's interesting to me is Patrick Mahomes was playing in his first playoff game. And we've seen it a million times before that first playoff game for quarterback usually goes, really poorly. It didn't for him. He looked really comfortable. I mean, it wasn't the five hundred yards six touchdowns. Like he can put up at times. It was zeros zeros. But it was the second zero. That's the big one no touchdowns. No interceptions. He's the MVP. And he looked like it. Yeah. Well, one and I said it's going into the weekend while it's true. The colts were hot towards the end of the season. They went nine and one the only real team they beat was Houston was tells me that maybe they just have Houston's number versus them being a really excellent team. They didn't look that impressive coming out the gate patch Mahomes while this might be his first playoff experience per playoff game. This is not a rookie year. And sometimes because he was the backing of Alex Smith we forget, he's not really a rookie. This is his second. I think I think when you talk about Andy Reid a veteran coach has played in a coached in playoff games knows how to prepare guys young guys young quarterback. He had a young when in doubt of the McNabb once upon a time. I had a young you look at the one last thought on this game with the colts. Because we haven't talked about them. You mentioned the tech. The AFC south sucked there. I know they put two teams into it. But you look at that team in the they were beating each other the colts and the Texans got fat on Jacksonville and Tennessee to a certain point. All right. Well, since we wanted to talk about the patriots all the time. Apparently looks coated a patriots game against the chargers. We saw them. The patriots are going to advance to their eighth consecutive AFC champion. It is their eighth consecutive AFC championship game. That is mind boggling. I mean, you think that thirteen championship games at Tom Brady has played in. So when you when you talk about the way that they won that game against the charges had nothing to do with Brady's arm and had something to do with them, dinking and Dunkin and running the football. And and I think when you when you have that type of recipe and understanding that gronkowski had one catch for twenty five yards. So everybody talked about gronk everybody talked about Brady. But collectively as a group. I thought that the New England Patriots played extremely well. From an offense standpoint defensively they deal with their were supposed to do against Philip rivers. And again, I learned my lesson. I'm not going to do it. Again in 'til they're dead. I'm not going to think that they're going to be dead. I'm not gonna hey, it's common. The Tom Brady looks different Bill Belichick. Looks different going to finally have this thing. Come to an end. It's not you did you're right. I tried to tell you did when the chargers we're not going up against Lamar Jackson yesterday in a rookie quarterback. They were going up against the goat any made them look like, it's Sony. Michelle was fantastic. And they move again. Well, you say you're not gonna do that. With Tom Brady. I'm not gonna do that with the charges. My gut told me that despite the record despite the feel good despite the ideal of an Elliott Super Bowl that this could happen. How's it going to be slow? Chargers. LA? I know. Person slash Orange County's last Molyneaux. Anyway, the chargers is just hard to get behind them. Because they always seems let you down when you need them most. And I should have known Baltimore came into Carson and beat them. And again wish they could have secured. What many the number one overall seed, and they lost that the charges were still the charge? They are going to be the clippers to the Rams Lakers. Well, I don't think that that. I don't think that that is fair to say that because when you think about it the charges put themselves in a good position within this division. He couldn't win the division. They got their playoff game on the road. They took care of business in Baltimore. Although they played against the Marge accent. They went up against Tom Brady, Tom Brady was going to beat anybody that you put in front of him in that day. It just that's just simply where it is. I think that the chargers are onto something they're going to continue to get better every single year. And I think coach Lynn for the first opportunity I chance to be a career coaching this Lee to only be here for two years and get his team to the playoffs. Gotta take your hand off to that. So is. Is it a Tom Brady thing? Or is it a patriots thing in the sense that Philip rivers can't beat them? Is it just that Bill bell checks the defensive minded guy always going to be able to throw something to rivers or is there something about rivers Brady that oh against each other Travis they played the teams. Now back to the team. That's all all right fair enough in an yesterday. Of course, we saw the we saw the NFC game the largest postseason comeback in franchise history for the saints. The saints win twenty two fourteen Keyshawn your nephews out there being problems. What do you think I think it was the largest them was a fourteen point deficit in a came back from behind that and towards a championship cover that they took care of. But I think it it's not it doesn't start with my nephew just ends with them. It starts with drew Brees and Kamar those are the two guys. I think they really if you get Kamar going itself, it it changes things from an offensive standpoint for defense. And then once Mikey starts to do his thing. Now, you don't have a real answer form and in the defense side of the ball the defense society when they won the Super Bowl against Indianapolis Colts. Yeah. When New Orleans one that Super Bowl, Indianapolis, it was because of the defense the turnovers at the created it wasn't a it wasn't a shutdown. On defense. It just was a turnover machine that will something that they did yesterday. Got an interception. Right. When they needed to. This is not going to be pretty for the saints. My opinion what I'm looking at the score twenty two fourteenth. Yeah. You shut down Nick foles for three quarters. You try to tell me take you charter tell me that you feel confident Keyshawn at a twenty two fourteenth score where oh, by the way, if it wasn't for a bobble from Jeffries, they very well could have lost. I gave it home. You mean to tell me you think that the Rams are gonna put up fourteen points and be held in check. Like if it wasn't for both of my parents being black. I could be white. That a key is them. She. Wow. It's true. I think that they're saying it wasn't sure bobble cooling. Why? No, what you said what I was getting at l z this all Sean Jeffrey at a ball a well thrown ball right through his hands and end up as an interception. They were moving. They weren't in that game with the saints played. Well, they did a lot of things good. You guys. This was not a lopsided hook line, and sinker. They got CHA already Dowd in here to Rams got child hook line and saying. Does your candidate win in my talking about? I'm talking about the exact whatever supposed to talk about how the damn game. What was the spread the spread negative has eight and a half or nine opened that nine and a half. It went down to eight and a half by the time. Kickoff key. I'm not talking about the Rams at all what I'm saying. Is that if all right? That ball. Then the eagles are right there. The Prescott throw sixty are bow the did the cow was right there. They it beat the Rams you really got to say. To say the same. Thirty can of that game. Let's go finally to LA here. We were there on Saturday. What most of us the Rams and Cowboys Rams rush for a franchise record and the playoff two hundred and seventy three yard. Filming we didn't even feel like it was two hundred seventy seven yards. Just like God hundred to me just know because Todd Gurley didn't really outside the long touchdown run. He wasn't giving you big chunks like in the past two. Usually give you that twenty-five your rip off in dinner fifteen then a five then another twenty five. So when you add that in there, you didn't look at C, J Anderson and go or got one hundred and some yards from you win twenty three. It didn't look like because he's giving you a fifteen and a ten and twelve and in the six they lose loses two-day gives you another three. But when you put all that together to one we put all that together. That's how you get record-breaking yardage when I think about all the great yards that were run Jared Goff scrambled towards the end. When we all joked said what he starts moving. We get nervous. I'm there he starts moving. And who I the departure was shaking. I was nervous. 'cause I was like he's going to get popped. He's and I just sat say popped. I think we'll get popped. I'm not gonna I thought he can get popping. Scramble and the fact that he didn't really showed me that you know, what he can meet a team to Super Bowl because he made a play that you want your starting QB to make guess when you gotta have it. Yes. And he did it. He made a decision in his made a decision to run any ran. But I got that. I doubt that we desperately needed to make sure we kept him at. But I don't believe that. He can't lead them to the championship. I think at some point time whether it's this year down down the road, he potentially can. But they're going up against New Orleans next week. And I just think it's a tough situation a tough environment. Look this is the NFC championship game on the row. That's hor it's real don't usually know, it's real hard. But I think that the Rams can do it and you go back to the game on Saturday night against the Cowboys for the first time in about a month. The Rams looked like the Rams again. The Todd Gurley was going. He had the thirty five yard touchdown and he had over one hundred yards. He averaged. Over seven yards per carry. The defense had arguably their best performance of the season upfront and the only way to point and they only face I know that you're gonna throw some shade adak, but they did a great job against one of the best running backs in football against Ezekiel Elliott. Bottled him up did a great job against him Jared Goff. Make great decisions didn't throw any interceptions. Didn't take any sacks. The Rams looked as sharp as they had since going back to that Kansas on Monday night game. I I love their chances. I think they were dialed in. I think they'll have a chance in New Orleans. I just don't. I it's hard for me to look at the Philadelphia eagle game and say that the New Orleans Saints because it was a close game. And it took a play here there for them to win to think that they're not going to get it turned around against the Rams one of the things that you got it. Well, much like Philadelphia they play the Rams earlier in the year as well. So they'll have tape to be able to make those adjustments that they made mistakes against the Rams the same Rams or have the make the mistake against them. They'll have the tape. The touchdown Mikey at the end of the game. They'll be able to make that adjustment. And hopefully, it'll pay off for your Los Angeles to lead to work this way by the Cowboys the saints, and we beat the Cowboys is that such as saying that we could beat the saints. That's the transit of property of exactly my eighth grade. Geographies geometry. Theories. The next time. I tell you if all that just say if you'll parents both wouldn't black then maybe you can be what just remember that. I'll have to say, it's the other way. But what books it works out? The Rams did what they needed to do at the Coliseum on Saturday night there onto the NFC championship game. We'll get into it next. Thirty to twenty two rans beat the Cowboys on Saturday wasn't close. Travis didn't feel like it nine thousand nine hundred nine. Was the last time. They Rams were the the LA Rams were the NFC championship. This was one of the biggest songs from nineteen Eighty-nine. Paula Abdul straight up. There's an NFC championship. They played the giants. I know the nine the Niners wasn't the tonight. If I'm remembering correctly, I think that was the gym ever took a dive game. I think so because I was a freshman in college during that, and that's nineteen Eighty-nine that when he earned the Nance when it went that way. I think if I'm remembering it, right? I didn't. I don't remember them the Niners blew them out. Travis is that when he earned his nickname? I believe that that was the most the only only playoff games. I can remember as a kid is a Super Bowl when they play Pittsburgh the Chicago bear game when they got blew out in the fog in the fall. Yeah. In a giant game with flipper ran through the tunnel. Yeah. That was an only playoff game. Remember from LA days it they key for me watching that game. They looked as crisp as and this is why the regular season matters. We look who's left. Look at the four teams that are left. They're all ones and twos. That teams that had the by that getting that week off getting a chance to get right? We saw Todd Gurley and C J Anderson was so good C J had such a big game that you meant. Girlie girlie one hundred fifteen yards. He averaged seven yards at touch. Yeah. I mean, he had a big game. It's almost like. Oh, yeah. Okay. Todd Gurley is back. That's how crisp the Rams were that Todd girlies return hundred fifteen yards noticed went unnoticed. Yeah. I mean, it's it's an it was an extraordinary performance offense. And the Zeke Elliott if he's not the best running back in football with two maybe not probably not probably one. Forty seven yards. Forty seven yards. Barely is still the best running back and for for for a team Zeki. Oh, Elliott had forty seven yards against a team that had an NFL worst yards per rush against five point one. The Rams defense was as good as it's been all over. But you'd never could pay attention to stuff like pro football, focus because that'll that all of those sort of Satistics numbers Rosh, they will mess you up the five point one per attempt. Really doesn't mean anything because it's the game that you play any. What are we doing defensively in that particular game against the will not what Seattle d it or not with Arizona Cardinals were able to do? But what are the Dallas Cowboys able to do against us in the rush defense a category, not anything at all? I I get that. I completely get that. But the eyeball test to watching the Rams all season long. They got beat up on the ground. Yeah. Indeed has had a lot of success. Running the ball against certain plays teams ran. That the Dallas Cowboys probably don't run when you run the Dallas Cowboys run a lot of draws they run in between the tackles stuff. They don't necessarily run on the edges and so teams getting yardage from the cow. I mean from the Rams can be a multitude of different ways. I'm Rams fan. I'm Jared Goff fan. And I was excited to see what happened on Saturday night. But I'm getting the sense in. And you told me I'm going the sense that you were underwhelmed by their performance. I was incredibly emboldened by how they looked on both sides of the ball that Jared Goff Todd Gurley that defense like I'm as bullish on this team is I've been all year long. And I'm and I'm in. But it seems like yeah. There was good. But let's let's you're expecting to beat the Cowboys. We went into we talked about it last week. What did the Cowboys actually have nothing really have nothing? Nothing. I mean, they'll quarterback got a quarterback running back in a receiver. Does it? But it wasn't just that they won. It was the how that makes it impressive to me because as Travers was pointing out the offensive line certainly towards the latter. Third Ladda quarter of the season. Justin, look, very good. And you were worried that Woodworth was leasing losing. Steve you're wondering why people can get somebody's pressure. All of a sudden on Jerry, the Dallas Cowboys defense went into the Superdome and shut down the New Orleans Saints. So he thinks that defensive line against that offensive line that didn't look very good. I'm not shocked that they won. But the fact that they beat them up in the two areas that were a weakness for us in a string for them that to me was impressive Dallas is defense ally. Really isn't a strength is just. Means immerse looks point. You sit there front seven earlier in the year is incredible the front seven caves, they're not against the Rams not against the Rams style of play. Getting the football out early. Quick three step droughts. Five-step drops west coast office. That's not the strength of the team is the middle of the field. The middle the middle of the field for forty the Cowboys. You could gas them right up the gut all day long. I was reading on our favorites. I pro football focus linebackers, which is the Cowboys. Strength. Would you not say the linebackers or the strength of the roadway all night and never they never got off the block. They were getting hit on the second level. They couldn't get off the bye didn't necessarily miss tackles. But the Rams to what you was saying didn't miss tackle. They were just locked up by the Rams offensive line. They got to the second level. Call the linebackers on the second level. C J Anderson didn't have anybody touch him until he got to the linebackers. I mean, he was getting through that offensive line that. But that's that's what I said the second wave of the first wave of that nose tackle position for the Cowboys is weak that middle of the they got edge rushers. The middle of the. For the Cowboys is not strong at all. That's why guys can get up on the second second way, which is alive. Bekker's making get up on them with no problem at all people gashed the Cowboys in big chunks yards right at the good. Is this just a matter of the Rams got the exact right guy for what they do authencity and C J Anderson or did they just catch lightning in a bottle that this is just this is unexplainable season. Anderson was let go by the Denver Broncos because they had a young guy making about four fifty debt, you know, four hundred fifty thousand or whatever it is opposed to paying him several million in then he didn't fit in Carolina at the level. You got rid of Jonathan Stewart? They obvious cafe never camp free. He never comes off to feel. So at that point time, you allow guy to leave dinner Broncos west coast, offense, he plugs right in with McVeigh is the same stuff. He has no learning curve. He walks right in he's able to take over and he's got fresh lakes. How is the? Just the freshness. That he hasn't had three four months of wear and tear on him. Because he he's bald guy. You would think that the way he runs by the time you get to week twelve thirteen fourteen that he's dragging a little bit. Well, this is week five for him. If it's if his anything and sports with fresh legs in terms of baseball basketball football in football. When a do first legs. You could tell a hundred percent. I mean, I play with Eddie George h the time when I was with Eddie in Dallas Eddie was pretty much. I mean, he was he was a cloud of dust. He wasn't even three point five around. Eddie was so done. It was so funny. We put a Julius Jones we ran the same play. Yeah. Dooley's Jones hit the whole issue. Eighty dollars. His same place. I am exactly. And he got hit a lot of screen. It was like man, you know, all fun and games. You know, we're gonna tease him because that whole for him opened up twenty times close beer Todd, look right to you guys. He looked like he had a little bit of a limp. What that could be okay. Because might have been sore little stiffness in there. I couldn't tell sitting when I text you guys about the limb I'm looking I couldn't tell if he would just trying to walk off a stinger. Yeah. Or if there was a severe ill. You can tell when he was running I can tell when he was running from the beginning. I look and see when I saw him on little highlights or whatever warming up. I was like eight got a little limp to well. It was interesting because when he broke the touchdown the thirty five yard touchdown. He got to about the ten, and you can tell you could tell going in. He knew weren't going to get him. And so you could tell you kinda down dropped it into third gear. And then all of a sudden he did he wreaked like you were talking about a second ago redid that math in his head like gonna get here any realize, oh, he might. And then he was able to go right back into fifth gear. And he was gone that made me feel better about it that he was able to kinda throttle that thing back and forth when he needed it. He probably had a little bit of stiffness, you know, we'll soreness little stiffness being cautious twenty four thirty. It is. I mean, he's not wrong. The Lakers without LeBron has not looked right. But it's never looked more wrong than it. Did last night. We'll tell you what. Next, L z. Yes, sir. Do you know bones had a song about Cleveland? I did not well here. It is Cleveland city. Okay. You can put a whole bunch of people on that is not going to help it out still Cleveland Cleveland. Oh. Chris. I thought you got five seconds that we could play. My mom's got a text message for you. Keep would she wants you to know that if both parents were white still come out black. I guess she's talking about the gene being recessive. And then all of a sudden springs up, and you didn't know you and your family, and then bam. Gotcha. Yeah. Me neither because. Is something is different than what is. Have a real damn, right? Dropping off more than just mail shop. It off holding mail. See lied in the band or south of jeez. That'd be really wouldn't this science book recessive says if it can happen one out of. Ills. There's put it this way. There's probably a conversation the uptake place. There'd be come out tomorrow. I just want some juice. That's all I want. Right. Travis. There'd be a conversation conversation conversation. Yeah. Well, not really sure. A cousin. We had that was kind of dark to we were here. There'd be a conversation. Pack one zero one to ninety five last night. And I would argue, and I don't even think there's an argument the other way that was the low point so far this season for the Lakers last night. They just lost to the worst team in the NBA at home a Cavalier's team that had lost twelve and a row. There was the worst road team in the league. And really the Lakers barely even made a run. Adam at the end, they not only Cleveland win Cleveland had that game ended up a pretty comfortable position for most of the night. The Lakers went through the motions for about the the entire first three quarters and about three quarters of the fourth quarter until they finally realize, oh, we might lose to the Cavs at home, and they tried to make we saw coups and Ingram get going at the end there. But by then it was way too late. No, it was it was it was one of those situations when a Lakers fell behind and never played ketchup now. Maybe they thought that they will go and be able to walk Cleveland. And then they realize oh, this is going to be a series game. But it was too too too much to catch up to and at the same time the younger guys that you delegate this stuff to have. Step up to play better. When you look at the points in coups wind up giving you some points here. Twenty nine points nine boards were ZOA at thirteen eight board in eight assists, Tissa set line looks promising. You're sitting there going, okay? But it's win. They got the shop. It's when they took the shots. It's when they got the boards, those sort of things having LeBron James on your team you now under the microscope. Everybody's watching you in everything the year ago, they could have got away with this people have been like, oh, they're growing older learning. This is growing pains. But the fact is the matter is you gave us a nice run Whitlow, Brian. He stepped to the side that re-heal itself. And now you on the court now, we're looking for you to kind of take the Lee keep us at their five hundred plus mar intil he comes back and you're dropping game to the Knicks. You dropping game to the castle at home at home. He needed to do what the great coaches like Popovich would do with Pat Riley has done a number of times. Which is when your starters, particularly if they're young. On giving you what you need. You sit them down. Get the message out right out the gate and the first quarter. It was clear that the energy wasn't where it needed to be. You send a message that way. All y'all send down I'm putting these guys in and they're going to stay in at the end of getting us ahead because you guys didn't do your jobs. I not saying that they should fire Luke Walton? I'm not saying that they should fire. Anybody? What I am saying is that this is how coaches get fired. This is how it happens. You lose to the worst team in the league on your home court. And I get it that LeBron's not there. And if we've learned anything again, it's LeBron James is the greatest player of the last twenty some odd years because he made this team look like they could beat anybody without him. They can't beat anybody. He did it in Cleveland. So that that part of it is. But if you can't you said it Elsie they come out there and they lay an egg at the beginning. The energy is bad. There's there's no sense of urgency on that team. And it certainly part of the players fault for. That as well. But the coach if you can't leave him out there to fall behind by twenty points, give them up thirty points in the first quarter night after night. What I was a that was a Phil Jackson coaching deal last night where he left got feel used to leave them leave him out. They want him to run. He would leave him on the court in let them catch up. I mean, that's a little different when it's shack and Kobe. No, it is different. But I think Luke took some of that out of that book and said, okay, I'm not gonna panic in this situation. I'm just gonna let it just continue to go is see where it ends up at. Here's Luke talking after the game saying that he still believes in this group upset I believe in this group. And I believe that this group will play better, and we'll start winning games. But as a team, we got we got to, you know, step up and go out and take some of these games. We had plenty of chances tonight to really try to get back over the home, and we just didn't do it. So as a group we got to be better as a group. Got to be better. And they gotta stick. They've got the bulls tomorrow night, then after that the schedule gets brutal for about the next two weeks thirty four three point attempts. Now if you hidden go forward, but but the only hit seven instead of taking two on one's three onto opportunities. And you decide he going to fan out to the three point line and try hit a corner. Three. Why don't you just feel the lanes? They used to do any. Oh days and get a layup the threes more than two. Yes. But you know what twos? More than zero exactly to better options number of times that you were watch them, and they'll get the rebound, and they're pushing it up and then to Wayne plans were fan out for corner threes, and I go on just fill the lane. Just get delay up. It was that was ugly last night across the board. There was nothing about that. That makes you feel good about what's coming up next. The division round is in the books. Mike Renner from pro football focus will join us next Rams win. They'll take on the saints in the NFC championship game. The chargers lose in Foxborough. Patriots headed to Kansas City for the AFC champion. Hip game. Mike Renner has joined this leaching every Monday after each and every Ramsgate Mike good morning. How are you? I'm doing great. How you doing fantastic? Let's start right here. Let's start with the the Rams and the Cowboys and the offense of line performance from the Rams a couple of nights ago at least from the test, Mike. It looked like that was the best that I've seen the Rams offensive line all season. What are the numbers say? Yeah. The number back that I'll wholeheartedly they just dominated and every facet of the game. Whether it was pass protection or the run game, obviously. Which is just the whole this is. Yeah, I could have probably around for one hundred dollars. If they gave me the ball twenty times in that game. And it was just pretty upset what they were doing to talented, you know, Cowboys defensive front seven that has two of the federal linebackers the NFL they were just manhandling them. How is it that a team like the Cowboys can hold the saints to basically nothing really think about the saints offense to nothing when they face them. And then can't stop the Rams. But what what what the difference between those two because I'm sitting here like on the both thirteen and three to both have dynamic offenses. But that one defense was able to do something against the saints that he couldn't do side of a against the Rams what I think. I think there is a drastically while you know, the saints and the Rams both to the best offense in the NFL. I think they have not drastically different places. But the offenses are definitely different Trump's where they want to attack. You though, the Rams one attack off play action and the white zone running game, which is spread you outside line sideline as much space as possible. Whereas the saints are gonna take you a lot more underneath they're going to think that then go to Michael Thomas over his opera, and the intermediate range didn't really have many other weapons to go to the Rams have all these, you know, bunch of different receiving weapons that they can go to any level the field the saints don't really have that. And so take away the underneath stuff which a Cowboys able to do with those linebackers who can come up and make plays guys. Like Alvin Kamara you can shut down the saints. So I think that's why the difference you saw dance Mike when you look at where this game is headed to in terms of the NFC championship game in watching the style of play. In terms of what the Rams were able to do against the Cowboys running the football. How do you think they'll look to take advantage of New Orleans defense in terms of the run game? I think it's the same game plan. I think you want to spread them you want to get them moving. It's a good saints run defense. They'll get me wrong. But the linebackers that they have there are not very athletic. If you get them running, you know silence with that wide zone. Steve if you have to make the make plays on the move. That's when I think you're going to be able to guess them. If you want to just try to punch them right in the mouth to run at guys like Cameron toward you know, Davis frontier. David Anya Mata. I don't think you're going to have a lot of success at them. But Sean McVeigh's not an idiot. He's back going to do that. He's got to do the exact same game. We saw against the Talboys where you're getting the moon side. I saw and I do think they'll have some success in the running game at that play action the top Mike Renner from pro football, focus. Joining us on Keyshawn l z and Travis we've talked about the offensive line for the Rams and the performance that they had what about the defensive line. They did not a bunch of no sacks. In fact, in Aaron Donald only had a couple of tackles along the way, but they also held Ezekiel Elliott to forty seven yards. Yeah. It was a very good. They definitely add game planted. You could see they wanted to stop. That was number one. You know priority in that game was stopped the rotten down through had a fantastic day doing that. Aaron Donald was e- wasn't necessarily down that come to expect the athlete we play, but he was doing his job as well. They were far more gap sound that at other times we see that over the course of the season. So they did that excess. And I think that's ended up being the difference in the game. You know, the Rams are going to be on the road to face the New Orleans Saints. They came away with the win. But it was a nail biter towards the end. What were some of the things that you saw the eagles do that? Perhaps the Rams replicate. I think the interior pressure is going to be the biggest thing that for as much hype as the saints off until I got this season. It's because they have through the best tackle the NFL. But those it's your guys can't be making vantage up. And that's where the Rams are strong and Dhammika to an air Donald. So if you can take advantage. Of Andrew's p take advantage of max Unger there at left guard van respectively. I think you're going to be able to get pressure into reasons face. And that's when he's going to give you some chances on the ball when you get pressure right up the middle in his face. So I do think that's going to play well into the Rams fans. And I think that's a matchup. They should win in that Mike when you look at the match ups in this football game, you talk about pressure. You talk about in hands in the face, those sorts of things when you look at Michael Thomas, so the New Orleans Saints. Yes, that is nepotism that. I am throwing out their praise. Now, you got to lead back in you had a field day. Obviously market speed is the first time around do do you think the Rams will try and put a bigger taller defensive back on him? Will they just go base and leave them left to right? I think with both the size of a key to leave an markets Peters that you let them go lesson. You left out? You don't make them back them because trackers more difficult and having joke different techniques. You have to play snap the snap. Let a play the same technique let him play sides. And if he ends up on one side of the other then so be it. I don't think you want. What you had in the last game, which was Marcus Peters. Just getting absolutely. But was Michael Thomas, and Michael we'll do that. It's a pretty much any cornerback in the league. If you leave him one on one over the course of the game. So I do think game plan around him in terms of high low coverages that sort of thing, but I wouldn't game plan around in terms of having one or the other guy track them all day long. Yeah. You're going to get fired. Mike Renner for pro football. Focus is our guest micro quick. The chargers go on the road. They go to New England. And they get blown out by the patriots. Was it something that the patriots were able to do against the chargers of the chargers? Just not play. Well, was it a bad match up for them? Because chargers it looked like one of the best teams in the league all season long. They just did not look like that on Sunday morning. They really got just punch to the out defensively what they pretty much their game all season long speed and not necessarily, you know, size up front and week. If you've teams really wanted to just punch it up the gut at them and the running game. They didn't have a great nose tackle. They didn't have strong linebackers can hold the point there. So that's basically what the patriots just get at them. And they had no recourse. They had really not enough going up front. The patriots off fly. One of the best of the NFL is just pounding them all day long and Tom Brady is operating the playoffs going into FOX. You have to play a perfect game. And that is not what they did on Sunday. Mike, Renner pro football, focus. He joins us after and every Ramsgate Mike is always thanks a bunch for sure have gone thousands. Got it yet chargers. Just got that. Page patriot score charges. Come right back out. And you're like, okay. This is going to be fun. They're going to go back. And then that was it. Tommy, boy is just different though, man is in the I mean, he's a different. He's a different quarterback. And again, no matter who that was what team that was going to be on that day at that time and that stadium. He wasn't gonna lose. They've only lost three playoff games in Foxborough since he's been the quarterback. What is it is it? Eight AM C championship aims AFC championship. Get that's like some of the broad James calf Tyke, Brian. Russia's NBA vinyl, eight NBA final type stuff it. They bell checks that to that. He's just whoever whoever the other guy is doesn't matter that could be really they won eleven games of McKesson. Thank you. So thank you or twelve game. They won the division with Matt castle who went to a handful of other teams and couldn't play dead and they want a lesson games with him in New England. That's how that's how good of a coach Bill Belichick is. But they're also three and four in the road and the plows and they're going on the road. So as good if. Are at home. And obviously they play a lot of home games when a given the road unless like fifty tossup, I think Kansas City, I think has said he should beat them. But. It's a situation where you can't count them out three and four on the road on his cute. But you cannot count them out. They just they shown you too many times when you decided to count him out. He they come right where I agree that was Super Bowl. We see we hanging out. They down second half. I'm like, oh, yeah. They get ready win this guy. Why are they so different on the road though? I mean because you figured having Tom Brady's Tom Brady. Bill bell checks. Bill bell check whether you're in Foxborough or anywhere else. Yet this season. They didn't lose at home and on the road. They were pretty pretty average. Yeah. But, but, but you know, home teams wing home games split on a row winning home games. And you'll be fine in that's pretty much what they did. And I think when you look at it. That's why teams want to have home field advantage. That's why they fight to have home. If they didn't need home for the vantage go out there and play in the back door into the playoffs every year, and it wouldn't matter. They'd be on the row consistently. They're not built for the. Oh, they built a home. 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OBI: Bengals lose 13th straight, fall to 0-11 in 2019 at hands of Steelers

"This is Sean Rama's firm. The host of Boxes Daily News. podcast today explained late September. We've done probably close to a dozen shows on this impeachment inquiry from the early rumors of a whistle blower complaints to Nancy Pelosi launching the formal impeachment inquiry to the whistleblower complaint coming out wrote the so-called transcript coming out to the Republican counter narrative to the White House stone. We've done it. All all felt like it was leading up to this moment of love. Televised impeachment hearings and the event of that event was the testimony of Gordon Sunland and we wanted to make sure are. We made an episode that properly showcased and explained the significance the historic significance of that testimony. And we did it and we want you to hear it. It's available in our feeds right now. Today explained episode is titled Impeachment TV. Mr Sunland goes to Washington ten. It's a must-listen I wouldn't say so if it weren't go check it out and enjoy thanks. 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After every game as well you can get the show aside from on Cincy jungle relied calm and the aforementioned youtube channel for the orange black insider you can get the SBA nation since the jungle. podcast slate of the bengals shows on Itunes stitcher spotify. Google play you can get it now on iheartradio Ron Megaphone. You can also get the program and as I mentioned on Youtube and on since he jungle dot com while the bengals fell to the steelers sixteen to ten. It was a game that it Was Pretty hard fought game. That was very close. It was to. They were two teams. That were not in great shape. In terms of injuries attrition attrition steelers had a player a key player out of the lineup. Marquees pouncey because of the suspension from the brawl the week prior But yet again the steelers prevail. They kind of kind of sort of did their their little bullying trademark. That they liked to do you. There was a little chippiness at the beginning of the game but that seemed to die down and there wasn't there weren't the brawls. Weren't those types of things that have really marked quite a bit of this this this rivalry over the past few years a lot a lot to get to here. I think we can talk about the quarterback play we can talk about play of the ancillary players on offense and the play of of the defense. You look at With I guess as we can look at the defense I once again feel a little bit like a broken record. I mean the defense did enough for the team to win the game and they definitely did had enough for the team to win the game especially with the woes on offense. The defense led up only sixteen points. It's to the steelers. Granted that sealers had bounced between two different. Two different quarterbacks the bengals played both them pretty. Pretty well They they combined for one touchdown. One interception bengals stack the quarterback a couple of times. There were some great individual performances performances on defense at their Carlos done that played well. He had a pass defended that ended up being an interception. The Guy who intercepted that Pash on Williams ended up stepping up and playing relatively well. Jessie Bates had a better game as well He was coming off two games with an interception coming in today. He didn't have it interception but was kind of flying around a little bit thought. Dark has denard had a very good first half for the Cincinnati bengals defensive line played very well linebacker. Play wasn't overly great Nick Nick digital kind of still chasing tackle a little bit of the same from Germain Pratt but there has been Janine Pratt. I believe eight total tackles on the day and you know there was some some limiting of the damage until of course you know towards the very end of the game and the steelers were kind of plane. Keep Away with the ball and kind of milking the clock. There were a couple of big runs there but really only one explosive play given up for the most part by the bengals defense. That was the Seventy eight seventy nine yard touchdown to James Washington and of course stat occurred right when the quarterback change happened. And if you watched the alignment the personnel grouping that Cincinnati bengals hat. Add on the field for defense. They had one safety deep on that. Play Kinda left at safety in in a precarious position to say the least and of course the the steelers being the steelers took advantage. The bengals now have lost They have lost thirteen Straight Games going back to twenty eighteen and are a believe there one in six one seventeen one eighteen gene in their last handful of games so not great a great direction for this team going forward but as I said the defense has did enough at unlimited the points limited the damage enough for the Cincinnati Bengals to get a win. I mean you look at week one. Let up twenty one points in Seattle the seahawks. You know you could say you can win that one. Let up twenty one points to Buffalo. Who is now eight and three team by the way twenty one points to the bills in Buffalo? Uh another game that maybe you think could have been one You know you you could look at the twenty six points to the cardinals okay. That's a a little too much. Maybe twenty three points to the ravens who were seemingly beating everybody the first time around twenty three points gives you a shot Twenty four points. The Rams on a neutral field in England gives you a shot. Seventeen points to the raiders in Oakland last week definitely has have gives you a shot into win a game and then sixteen points today to the steelers on your home field. They you know there. There's there's six or so games in there that points wise. The defense is doing enough to win games. Now it's not pretty. They're letting up a lot of yards. There are other games in there. Obviously forty-one points to the forty niners on your home field. Well that's not GonNa do it. Twenty seven points to the steelers in Pittsburgh when you're only scoring three. That's not going to do it. I mentioned the twenty six points against the cardinals. That's kind of have a high amount Twenty seven points against the Jaguars who aren't very good team. That's not GonNa do it. Forty nine points against the Ravens. Of course that's not going to do it. But you look at the Ravens game. Two of those touchdowns were from the offense. There was a lost fumble in that Ravens game that was returned for touchdowns. Pick six in that game. That was returned for a touchdown. A A couple of those instances Obviously occurred in some of those other games too. But I'm not saying the defense is Great. I'm not even saying it's good but more often the non in terms of total points and and overall scenarios. They are doing enough for the Bengals to to win. Ballgames and You know unfortunately whether it was Andy Dalton or whether it was it is Ryan Finley. The offense is not stepping up. The offense definitely has taken a step back worked from a under Ryan Finley than that of Andy Dalton so let's kind of transition from the bengals defensive performance that should have given them you know a good chance to win on their own home field especially from a battered steelers Team Ryan Finley twelve twenty six hundred fifty percent completion completion percentage again and under two hundred yards passing again. He has not cracked to. He's not one hundred ninety two has been which is what he threw for. Today was his career. Hi He is not passed that Mark In the in his three starts he had the one touchdown he had two fumbles. Today one was lost So not a good day. Hey from him I will say this. In Finley's defense there were probably three or four drops that hurt him now. That's something obviously that played Danny Dalton too so he was immune to that either but I believe it was fourth quarter early in the fourth quarter bengals needing to get out of the shadow of the end zone. I think they're only down by three points. He puts a ball on tyler. Boyd who is kind of going across the middle. He may or may not have gotten the first down had he hung onto it. But that's a ball that hits I'm basically writing the guy drops drops it another one earlier. I believe it was kind of a contested ball to to boyd. Doesn't complete it. Alex Eric's in another one a coup- there is probably Louis to Alex. Ericsson that were contested passes he catches at least one of those which I think. Maybe you should have you know that's the stats are a little different. Situations are a little different. But of course Shoulda WOULDA COULDA is kind of the AMMO for the Cincinnati. Bengals going you know in in two thousand nineteen here So Ryan Finley very up and down day. There was a point really through the first the threat most of the game. I mean if he wasn't kind of checking up prayers to tyler avoid come down with He was not really making any any. Hey offensively. The bengals sixteen percent went on third down conversions sixteen percent that is putrid absolutely putrid. And that was the reason. Four or a big reason for the bengals ineffectiveness on third down was because penalties by the offensive line. Negative negative plays on early downs. That put him in long. You know second long long situations they can't get out of it they have to punt the football so so You know a lot of the same now. Cordy Glenn came in Uh We could talk about the offensive line. The offensive line remains a major issue. Billy price was benched benched or however you WANNA put it. Maybe sat because he had a supposed back issue late on Friday. Alex Redmond was going to get the start. Alex Alex Redmond hurts his elbow. I don't know how that happens in pre-game warm-up somehow and he was out for the game billy price then gets reinserted inserted into the lineup. Making me think this was more of a benching than anything else. So he gets reinserted in the lineup. He was just Ma- You know many of if the EU the positive run plays that Joe Mixon was able to generate. Were really because of single handed effort by Joe Mixing So so I can't really give Billy price a big PAT on the back Michael Jordan. His other buckeyes teammate came in for one. Snap as an extra offensive lineman in kind of a jumbo package. He commits a penalty on his loan. Snap wonderful John Miller had a penalty. Bobby Hart absolutely atrocious game at right. Tackle continues continues to get abused by by T.. J. Watt I think. TJ What has what four sacks against him in two games He's he had another false start late in the game name. It's inexplicable not only how the Bengals wide they gave him a lucrative contract why they just handed him the starting right right. Tackle position and of all of the musical chairs. They're doing on the offensive line for the life of me. I do not understand the obsession with bobby. Hart he's now. I believe in his fifth year as an NFL offensive lineman he was let he was a low round pick. He was let go by his previous team. I understand understand these younger and you may think he might be getting better. He might be progressing as a player but he is not showing it on tape and unfortunately he remains one of the major issues on the offensive line. Now what your offensive line. Depth chart is very low. In terms of amounts of tackles. Indoor amounts of worthy tackles to who potentially sit him down and replace him. You know that that's an issue but that is definitely position that needs addressing in this off season that is a contract. The bengals desperately need to get out of use that money take the cap hit but use the other excess cap space you would take from releasing him and and You know use it for someone in free agency that is able to do is able to help you out in a different area or potentially outright tackle because that is not getting it done ready talk a few more minutes here. I'm seeing some some Questions in comments. I saw someone say in all caps Dalton Dalton Dalton. I you know I don't really know what that means but You know I did see a an egregious misfire by Ryan. Finley on a deep ball to Alex. Eric's Alex Erickson was streaking wide wide. Open down the right sideline and like a past adult sailed on On Tate down in the game. I'm against the rams on the left side line. Finley missed an easy one. That may have been a touchdown. Pass to Alex Erickson but he just threw it out of bounce. He didn't under throw it even give his guy a chance to get it. He just sailed about abounds not really a windy day to my knowledge. Not You know and I. It was a cooler day but you know nothing that really should have prevented him from hitting that pass other than just an errant. Throw so You know not much to say about that. Chance White says Finley is literally a younger Dalton. He fell apart when it mattered. Most just like fourteen I I I don't think thank you. I don't think he's right now. He's not playing as well as Andy Dalton. So it's that's easy to say. He's a rookie in his third start as opposed to Dalton but I mean Dalton was showing us a little bit more as a rookie now granted he had aged green and others in a much better offensive line when he was rookie. But I don't know Just you know that is what it is I see. We've got some steeler trolls in here as well. I also thank you to the steeler trolls. You guys are just Class Acts Class Act. I engaged with one made the mistake of doing so on twitter. Row Class. 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Right now I mean you would say tyler I for but they don't really use him. Obviously you know with the injuries and all that kind of stuff. It's up for debate but I mean he. He is the best if not one of the best available receiving threats on this team He's now I believe that's his third one hundred yard game of the season And you know in the second quarter Tyler Boyd. Really put this team on his shoulders. kind of literally early with a one handed forty seven yard catch and then one play later. He came out. Muscled for a touchdown. Pass that was a wounded duck. DOC thrown by Ryan Finley to the end zone He Kinda out-muscled Joe Haden in the front corner of the end zone to You know make can I play and and Kinda give hope to the Cincinnati bengals. Unfortunately Tyler joined the fourth quarter. I mean third quarter. He had a nice pass. Interference Penalty. See that helped the team get a field goal in the fourth quarter Boyd added. I mentioned the critical drop earlier. And then Finley throws one of his best passes says of the game kind of drops it into the bucket for boy to big game. Boyd Kinda takes a couple of steps in. Let's get punched out steelers recover and Bengals were really close in scoring position. Had at boy not fumbled the football. So kind of a an egregious error by boyd a Tough hit and everything but kind of one of those things where you know. Just protect the football there and Be Aware of your surroundings. And unfortunately he was not it now. It's hard to fall. Guy Who has one hundred yards a touchdown a great one-handed catch and really did a lot to help. This team has done a lot to help this team throughout Throughout the course of the season and really the past couple of seasons. But you know those errors you know when you when you kinda speak up about not getting the ball. And and then they make a concerted effort to throw the ball and you have dropped and this fumble five catches on nine nine targets. He was the highest targeted player on the day You give him a pass because Boyd has been been very productive and he's really improved as a football player from when you know when he first started with this team but just in this week when he was kind of speaking up it's It's a little tough to little tough to be fully on board with his comments when you speak for the ball and you get the ball. You can't make mistakes the stakes when you get it and it's just kind of bottom line there but Kind of Jacqueline High Day. A little bit from from Tyler Boyd You know beyond that. Forty three yards receiving by dialysis Ericsson. Obviously the big miss pass I mentioned earlier. Giovanni Bernard had a couple Nice plays in the passing game and then a bunch of just Joe Mixon Xinghai effort game and he is just turning out yards that are probably some of the toughest rushing yards to achieve around. The League. Eighteen carries seventy nine yards. Four point four average didn't find the end zone but there was a play specifically today where he was hit probably four yards in the in the backfield because of poor blocking He bounced off attack a weaved around Made a big gain really for a first down Very nice play. Unfortunately the play right after was the boyd fumble but Very Nice Day from him. You look at it. Eighteen for seventy nine is rather pedestrian. But but if you say if you actually it's one of those things watched the runs watched the actual plays and what he had to do to get four point four yards per carry. And I think you would be very impressed if you if you didn't actually watch the game play by play and didn't see each one of his runs. I think you would you know you should go back and really why watch those runs and and see what he had to do given some of the poor blocking up front. Some of the you know. It's a little predictable with a rookie quarterback in his third start battered receiving core. They're going to try to give the ball Joe Mixing and that's that's what they did but overall not a good day from Ryan Finley not a great day from the offense and that's where we kind of moved inches act Taylor. I mentioned the the man sixteen percent completion percentage On on third down that is just not getting it done absolutely not getting it done. That is just a you're you're never gonNA win on that Kind of you know that kind of pace. It's just not not conducive to winning you look at the Cincinnati bengals this year and granted. I know the Offi we can talk about the offensive line. We can talk about the receiving core. We talk about this too. Were blue in the face but the bengals in the regular season have not scored more than twenty twenty three points. They've scored seventeen points four times. They've scored single digit points once and and they've been held to under two touchdowns four times. This is your offensive guru guys. I mean sixteen percent third down conversion rate. Ten points on your home field. The quarterback change didn't do anything for you in terms of getting. You wins getting more points being more exciting offense if they were putting up thirty plus points a game and still in. There were still owe one eleven. Well that I would I he he would be immune from the blame. You would be immune from the blame. I mean it's they're not doing that. This was a guy that was brought into to revive. Andy Dalton's career. This was a guy that was brought brought in to make the offense less vanilla than under a quote unquote defensive-minded head coach. And then you know just kind of utilize utilize the weapons. That are there now. Some of those weapons haven't been able to be utilized You know that's that's just kind of the reality he but I don't know man Like I said I mean they're a real ho-hum hum offense having scored more than twenty three points Only scored twenty points twice twenty plus points twice like I said seventeen points four four times the last in the Ryan Finley era ten points thirteen points. Excuse me thirteen points. Ten points The pet the previous two weeks aches and then ten points again. So you know ten points ten points thirteen points in three weeks with Ryan Finley. That that's what you got after the the the quarterback change. I don't know he you now. You now have the worst start in franchise history which is really truly truly saying something for one of the most unsuccessful franchises in NFL history in general You know he's he's outperformed in this regard regard David Shula he's outperformed David Shula with the eleven start Some fans are very excited about that because of what that means for the draft next year. Fine if that's your mindset I do I do like that. You know the past couple of games have been close. I like the kind of the there doesn't seem their team doesn't seem to have quit but there were times also in this game. I thought there was a pass. Interference Penalty I'm VW. Web that could have been challenged. He did not challenge it He did make a good move on the. It was a an intentional grounding towards I believe that the end of the first half they were gonNA take off ten seconds instead. He used the timeout and all that he worked at situation well But this is this is proving to be too much. It appears. Zack Taylor in terms of the playcalling duties being at first. NFL head coach the injuries. All of this is proving to be too much in an eleven record speaks to that. There's really no way around that. That doesn't mean he can't be a successful head coach in this league. That doesn't mean he won't be a successful head coach with Cincinnati bengals down the road but this teams get healthier and he either needs to relegate the play calling duties to somebody else it or he needs to he needs to probably get some more experience coordinators and other other folks on staff and he needs to absolutely nail if the bengals are going to keep him in next year's draft he needs to absolutely nail the draft next year and not not project is not guys is that are coming in with predisposed injuries or injury issues in their history. They need guys to step on the field throughout Out Training camp throughout the preseason and the regular season the need him to play almost every game that they can. If this team's GONNA turn around quickly it's going to start with a quarterback that is for sure Ryan Finley's that doesn't seem to be the answer if Ryan Finley is the answer. It's with a an all star line it's with. Aj Green coming back. Tyler Boyd being being healthy and and is is your solid number two and probably another wide receiver whether that's John. Ross US or another draft pick this year. You'RE GONNA need to do the the Andy Dalton method build heavily around Ryan Finley because he is showing. He's showing less than Andy Dalton. Did and You know Andy. Dalton throughout much of his career had a lot of help but He also had some some big games. Big Numbers Ryan Finley. Three Games is is not really instilling. The confidence that he's your you know. He's your long-term answer. So I'm saying Sterling Sherwood's Act Taylor should be fired now Dylan Carter it. All boils down to Mike Brown. No one wants to come to Cincinnati. And he's tearing apart the team we do have. This is something I've been in thinking about recently. Based on Dylan's comment here. Unfortunately and I I don't know because I'm not really. This could be just kind of conjecture and everything but based on some of the reputations that this management has based on some of the reputations at this organization in general has because of its practices it's lean spending in terms of organizational needs staffing. And all that kind of stuff I do wonder if that's why I think back to the bengals angles. Giving high round picks with with troubled pasts tank Johnson Pacman Jones. All these all these guys that were talented guys but were cast-offs in the League league. Same thing in the draft the Chris. Henry's all those that came in with Red Flags Odell Thurman you look back to their last to head. Coaching hires they are two guys that were pretty hot commodities around the league but were risks because they had never been. NFL head coach's before. And or you know. In Taylor's case never a head coach and general Both came from Super Bowl. pedigrees one winning one losing but they had super bowl backgrounds in Marvin Lewis Anzac Taylor. I'm thinking you know. Maybe maybe Dylan saying here. No one wants to come to Cincinnati and and all that. Maybe that's why this team has had to make those kinds of decisions. You know You're not going Jack Del. Rio was maybe spoken of is becoming a defensive coordinator. Maybe he looked at this situation and kind of said. This is a situation where I am not set up to be successful. And if you are an employee of an organization whether it's football or otherwise you want to go into to a job a new job feeling like I am. I am given the keys to be successful and Make the make the team the organization successful and maybe some of these more more well known guys guys who have extensive. NFL resumes are well respected around the league. Look at Mike Brown. Look at the way. This team is running. Say thanks but no thanks Always for another another opportunity whereas guys need to get their foot in the door need to get that first opportunity. Say Gal jump at the opportunity with the bengals or maybe it's their last last opportunity in the case of these character concerned guys now now the Bengals have for the most part shied away in recent years the character concern guys but I think you get my point where these are you know. cast-offs guys begging for I first shots I. I wonder if that's who they have to choose from. I don't know You know the Bengals had a couple of guys supposedly on their shortlist for the head coaching. Search Eric the enemy was one the enemy he was a player for the bengals and He has not been in. NFL head coach before. So you know there's that. Shane Waldron the other assistant with the rams was a guy. Supposedly they were interested in A few others but I don't I don't know this with certainty but it definitely especially especially in a season like this. Get your wheels turning about how this team is run. What they're doing what their plan is? And you know why they are who they are and who have been. It's it's hard it's hard for me too. It's hard for me to understand a mindset as a as an owner of an NFL team to to have have this kind of stretch of futility. And whether it and I'm not just talking about twenty nineteen I'm talking about before I don't understand how that's accept accepted accepted internally as a culture I just I mean I if I owned a business in it was I mean I guess from a financial standpoint. It's it's not really failing because of the revenue share system in all of that but that stadium was pretty sparse today in their biggest rival of the year and it probably was one of the more well attended games because there were a significant steelers contingent at that at that game. So attendance has been an issue issue. I've I've written this in a couple of pieces. I've put up on Cincy jungle but in case you need to know courtesy of ESPN DOT COM. Cincinnati bengals have the second second lowest average attendance per game in the NFL and the only team below them is the Los Angeles chargers. And that's because they play in a tiny stadium right right now so that number gets skewed because of that so if the if and when the chargers get into their new stadium that's going to in this trend continues the bengals will for sure be the lowest attended team going forward now. That could change a quarterback drafted next year. I don't know we'll see I'm GONNA I'm GonNA end on Nisa. I mean we've talked a lot about the steelers. Gave them trying to get to some questions and comments here. Some of them Kinda seeing some. I'm seeing. I'm not seeing all of them but Chris Chris Reisner. I haven't I haven't watched them play the last three weeks. I can't believe how inept they are. I mean you missed A decent in a hard fought game today. But I mean it's it's a lot of tripping over their own feet you know at the at the end of the game the bengals had kind of a shot they were down sixteen to ten and and They had a shot to go. And drive for the winning touchdown like I said Finley puts it in the bucket to their really their most battle tested and most talented wide receiver. He makes the catch in fumbles the ball away. And you know it's it's a lot of the same a lot of the same mistakes and and you know they're gonNA need to get out of their own way. I'm seeing a lot of this Nathaniel the whole team lost that game. I guess you could say that. I thought the defense did enough to like I said said earlier that the defense did enough to garner a win today but I don't know Mark Right L. to have the energy continue to talk about these bengals amazing. Well Hey as long as you guys WanNa hear hear this and you're here from me and my co host John Sharon and others. We're I'M GONNA keep giving you these shows. 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End Your Day. Subscribed today explained for free on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP from stitcher and the Vox media podcast network work. I want to say this though. Speaking of inspiring hope a lot of a lot of stuff has been transpiring in the college ranks that would affect the Cincinnati bengals in their in their draft next year. Now based on the early slate of games. Were sitting. Here You know finishing up the late slate as we record today The bengals still hold now it now to game lead for the number one overall all pick the the giants sit at number two overall and if that holds up you would be you would tend to think that with the giant spending such a high pick on Daniel Jones last year. Sure you would tend to think that they are not interested in a quarterback. The Washington redskins are up there as well day. Depending on their thoughts undoing Haskins he was a high pick last year. I don't know that they would be inclined to use a high pick so the bengals might be in pretty good shape here both not only for the amount of wins and losses but the teams that are also up there. I'm seeing a ton of stuff. Joe Borough Joe Borough Joe Bureau There are some you You know I see someone you're saying I would take chase young. I get a QB. In the second round there is logic in both but You know it's I think. A lot of people that looked at the. This was a big weekend for Justin Herbert of Oregon and he he didn't really really come up. Come to play This was a big weekend for him because it was basically the first week and he was gonNA play after to attack. Oh by Loa went down with the injury injury. Another guy who's kind of been talked about as a top pick so Job Rope another solid game wasn't anything near really the the game against it's Alabama which was outstanding But I think he had two hundred seventy seven yards two touchdowns no interceptions Justin Herbert at two touchdowns two interceptions. His team lost against a you know a a five and five team at the time Arizona State Team on the road so not a good week for him but it just kinda continues to to shape things up but I I do know and I think for those who follow the draft and follow all this stuff you you have to know that as spring incomes you know you gotta let these last couple of bowl games and all that stuff play out. But as spring comes in this pre-draft process comes the hype machine's come the pre people get enamored with pre draft. Workouts get enamored with the pro days and all of that so You know some things could change but I think right now as we sit here I think I think it has to be Joe Borough for the Bengals at number one overall. We'll talk a little bit more about that. Undoubtedly this week on our Wednesday Our pre-thanksgiving show the orange black insider. John Sharon I will do that but I think right. Now it's gotta be it's gotTa be Joe Borough. The bengals are not putting up appoints. The defense is being thrown back out there. Three and out after three and out. Zack Taylor are is if he does not get fired after this year. He's GonNa be a guy that's GONNA have a hot seat. Let me tell you why if he commits to a Dalton or Finley for next year. I don't think that's going to sit well with a lot of people. Maybe is the answer. But you know we didn't see it it through the first half of the season and It gives an opportunity for Zack Taylor to get another one of his guys as at quarterback. I think that's I think that's your pick for a number of reasons and yes I think the offensive line needs major work. I would venture to guess the offensive line probably needs at least these three new starters. Next year You know I think the left guard situation needs to be figured out. I'm not overly hammered with John Miller right guard. He's okay okay. I guess I think right tackle needs to be figured out. trae Hopkins has been pretty good but he's been a little bit of a roller coaster. This year you've got Joan Williams coming back. Ideally you would have Joan Williams coming back at left tackle. You would have cordy Glenn come back if he's in the right frame of mind and wants to play football all in you know whatever it left. Guard maybe of Hopkins at Center. And then you get another guard and have them battle it out with John Miller and then you either get a right tackling free agency or the draft. And that's that's kind of what you do but Eddie rate I think quarterback this team needs is to be inspired. And I think you know if if the entire team has a belief that they've got a guy on the sideline regardless of the deficit regardless of the situation if they have if they have the belief that they have. That guy on the sideline. That's that they can bring him back in and get a win. Regardless of what's going on in the game I think that kind of reverberates throughout the entire team. And that's that's what this bengals team needs Truthfully they they just need a guy to Kinda grab by the haunches and say you know I'm going to I'm going to drag us to a win Based on what I. I saw Last night with Justin Herbert. And what I've seen this season it with Joe Borough I think Joe Bro can be a guy that can work a bit better better behind a patchwork offensive line. I think Herbert has a better offensive line in college. Right now And I think he showed me a little little bit of a panic mode when things weren't going right last night whereas borough seems a bit more collected Herbert's got the arm. There's no doubt about it. He's got the arm There is absolutely no doubt about that but I think burroughs got a little bit of a different. The IT factor demeanor. The guys have got this type of thing. So that's that's kind of one of the things that stuck out to me more recently so If the bengals goes do decide to go herbert I would like to see them. Actually maybe moved back Grab another high pick get Justin Herbert. Maybe grabbing offensive lineman a defensive player. Whatever the case may be You know and then you Kinda you kinda work it that way but I don't know Rob Bellamy is really on the early really asking us a lot about the the coaching situation. WHO's GonNa stay who's GONNA go If if if Zach does get fired see them going in house or out of House I think they have to go out of house again. the problem with that. The problem with the coaching change change again. Just one year into it. They overhauled the entire staff this year right. I mean it's not like Zach kept a defensive coordinator ornate or android offensive coordinator. Basically kept the special they pay. They kept the quarterbacks coach wide receivers coach and special teams coordinator Everybody else's new basically basically so doing again one year later They can do some damage but I. I don't know I. I tend to think that Taylor part of me thinks regardless of how the season ends up playing out. Zack Taylor's going to stay even if its own. sixteens actor's GonNa stay part of me. He also says Mike Brown is going to see an Owen sixteen record. He's GonNa look at attendance he. He mentioned that last last this last offseason when he said we saw that that fans were staying away from the stadium. We had to make a coaching change. We felt that was the need. If that continues the rest of this year in the bengals. Don't win a single game. I don't know how you stick with him but I you know now I kind of see the logic with both Alejandro our CEOS says I I guess I guess Taylor has a free pass this year. Maybe maybe anyway guys going along I appreciate you sticking with me for This show again. This is the Orange Black insider post game episode owed courtesy of Cincy jungle. And it's podcast network. Get the show on Itunes stitcher spotify. Google play you get it on Iheartradio the megaphone platform I think I said Stitcher but if not you can get there too. It's on since you jungle dot com as well as the orange black insider bengals podcast youtube channel. Get it there. 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The 75O: Readying For The Tennessee Titans

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The 75O: Readying For The Tennessee Titans

"What if all you're breaking news alerts had a voice what would that sound like it would sound like today? Explain its daily news podcast from vox. I'm Sean Ramos grim every day my team, and I take one essential news story, politics, two movies sports science, and we break it down into twenty minute episodes. Perfect for your ride home subscribed today. Explain on apple podcasts or wherever you listen from Stitcher, and the vox media podcast network. Welcome back to the seven five. Oh, you're listening is always in partnership with the boys dot com, Espy nation, and vox media. I am the O RJ show. He is the seven five two times Super Bowl champion. Tony casillas. Tony happy happy November to you. My friend, can can you believe that November? I know I can this time just keeps us rapidly passing by and always has a propensity to talk about my age because I am the senior on this show. And those days seem like that is keep flying by. But nevertheless, it's a great day the day after Halloween, and as we get into November. We get into the season of thanksgiving and the thanksgiving season we get into December. What's means? What what's that mean? In the National Football League teams need to fetter. So here we are again back to back these seven five with my boy. Jay. That's right. You know, you mentioned it. This is the month of thanksgiving. I enjoy thanksgiving more than I do Halloween. And we spent a lot of our show on things. Excuse me on Halloween talking about candies. We like I'll ask you now. And I'll ask you once we get closer again. What's your favorite thanksgiving food? I mean because obviously there's a lot. Well, considering it's right after I'd a all kinds of candy last night and caramel apples and eventually lives move onto food. You know, what I gotta go with. I'm a dark meat person. I appreciate it. So I like the drumstick I like anything. It just depends on how you prepare your Turkey. But at the sides gotta go with some yams. You gotta go with the marshmallow sweet potatoes. That's a must sets the with. That's the almond joy thanksgiving foods. That's the thing about it. You know, when you when you starting thanksgiving, you just start putting everything pile and everything on so you just kinda mix it up and his concussion of mashed potatoes yams and everything else that goes along with it because it all comes together. Right. But I'll probably great the sweet potatoes with marshmallows will. Maybe they'll sprinkle cinnamon, mashed potatoes, and obviously Turkey and stuffing. But it's all good. Wow. That's not personally. But I'll say this. I don't know if this will be shocking to you. I don't think it will. I used to. I was a kid be just the pickiest eater. I mean, I my hamburgers up until I was like fourteen were just plain in dry just needing bonds and salads really picky eater. So it wasn't until about it'd be five six years ago that I had stuffing for the first time change in my life. Tony change in my life. So that's my favorite thanksgiving meal. So your parents had been deprived new. At all your life. What a bunch of bad, parents know. I mean. I will say it looked gross because it had like carrots and stuff. I didn't want it. But it was funny stories, though, we we're talking about your parents deprive, and you my kids I think they had the first fried egg Friday about six years ago, my grandparents they were here. Guess so I think my wife, and I we we kind of felt up until that point of parenthood. My my in law my in laws. I mean, they're great. They're great cooks, and they Lebanese food. I don't know if you're a big fan of Lebanese food, but I love it great bleach and everything. But anyway, when they when they came when they when they spend time when we're out of town there watching the kids or watching the kids, and so, you know, my my father-in-law gets up and starts making fried eggs, and he started. So he's asking my kids. You guys are like a fried egg. Like, what's that grandpa all because you don't want a fried egg? So make a long story short. He puts it on top until. They're like they're hooked. And they're like essence you mean? Your your kids have met ever had a frie- exit. Thank. But I understand that. Hey, see, I'm I'm a big egg sandwich guy. So I I'm totally down with the Friday. But well, congrats do your kids for the life. So it's officially game leak. The Cowboys play the Tennessee titans on Monday night their appearance on Monday night football this season that AT and T stadium. Jason Witten returning. We had mentioned this before I find this fascinating Monday will be November fifth when Jason win makes his return. And it won't be the one year anniversary of when Tony Romo. I call the Dallas Cowboys game. That's insane ironic is that it's insane. The way the world works. It really is. And it's hard to imagine it Tony romo's. Ben is a second year out of the National Football League. And again, this is you know, we don't talk enough about Jason Witten. I guess we do. But I'm sure it'll be the celebration just like Romo when he came back and made his first call here without a doubt. No, Jason Witten. We'll we'll get his respect. I'm sure. But again as you look at the time, and it flies by whenever thought that it'd been that long ago. You know, the anniversary of Tony Romo doing this. First call, and then you have is I guess BFF doing the same thing. Because last year when Romo return they had a video forum that was the big thing, and Jason Witten was the person who narrated it who would be your favorite to be the narrator for the Jason Witten video obviously it can't be Romo 'cause he's not playing. I would say the only guy, I guess, it'd be Sean Lee that'd be the only guy maybe one of the offensive I'm in. But I I would say, Sean Lee. Probably I'm trying to think of the history were you know, Jason what play fifteen years obviously with the same team. So I'm trying to think of who would be the next person there'd be that close to him. Maybe Sean Lee, but you got to go back and look at his history. It was a player. And that's a great question. It could be you know, some guys we don't ever talk about. But that's what tremendous question about who. I wonder if they let Dak doing you know, 'cause Dak had some moments with with Witton, obviously. And to your point. I think you're kind of saying well who's who's sort of the the mantle being passed to kind of thing. I think that stack index the quarterback he's the leader. I mean, all this stuff. I mean, I could see the Dax captain, you know, I think that that's that's one possibility. Well, it seems to me that they had this tremendous and had this tremendous marriage which Asia Whitmer, he's mister cowboy everyone when they think of mister cowboy they think of Bob Lilly. And then one a would be Jason Witten. So if you look at who maybe it'd be a candidate for that. I wouldn't wouldn't surprise me. Maybe the owner of the team. Maybe no Jerry Jones just seems to me they had this fond relationship because if you don't have Romo just sent to me just doesn't seem seem right? And I know this is not gonna come back and narrate it after the comments he may that might be a possibility. But that would be probably probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than him actually narrating his his Montaza video is it comes back. But. To me, it probably would wouldn't sound right. If it wasn't roaming romo's not available. And maybe they're able to do something where you actually was able to be able to narrate something like that. I wouldn't be surprised at. That's ultimately who does at this weekend. It would be cool. I think it'll be interesting. I think that this kind of a pressure to do it because they did it for Romo. So it'll be very very fascinating before we get into the game you and I are recording this on Thursday afternoon. Jason Garrett already had his daily press conference, and he bumped it back. So this is his first press conference at the week. Normally does when on Wednesdays, but because the Cowboys play on Monday, obviously shifts things around and he talked about the moves that they made obviously and how they think it's going to make them better football team and the coaching changes and whatnot. He also talked about Amari Cooper spending time with Sanjay law. The Cavs receivers coach over the by said they worked together for three days they were both in the bay area, which is the home of Thursday night football tonight. You know, you talk about some scary from Halloween. Tonight's games. Gross. But he said that Dak Prescott and Amari Cooper face timed over the by week. And this is getting a lot of traction already on Twitter and stuff. What are your thoughts? I'm going to be. Honest about something I probably don't use FaceTime enough. When you and I record this we Skype so that's gonna face timing. But I hardly ever FaceTime. Somebody on my phone. I if you do maybe your kids, your wife, something like that. I never FaceTime call somebody from my phone, and so I guess number one your thoughts on FaceTime in general and number two. Is it cool or weird that Daqing Amari our face timing? Is it could it could anything could that be beneficial to any degree because people are? I like it. I do it all the time. I don't I don't do it when I'm driving. If I do do it when I'm driving. My wife's like you need to get to get the hell out to phone not FaceTime while you're driving, and please do not do that along with texting and driving. But I I like the -bility to be able to see someone depends on where you're at. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a great be Hickel depends on what you're doing. As far as him make it a point in press conference. I think it's probably. It's evidence that they really want to make this relationship speed up as fast as possible with him trying to grasp the whole offense. And I think if you're on that personal type of relationship because I think Dak is very personable player, and you meet him out in public. I mean, he's just a tremendous person. And he just he's great with the fans, great with charity and a lot of different things. So I think he's very genuinely receptive to really trying to get to know someone especially when it's a person such a more Kupa where they're bringing in. Here is a is a really just a Premera part hopefully in the future this offense. I think it's a great vehicle. Whether you're trying to study with each other or destroy trying to develop and maybe show things. I mean, I don't know on a on a whiteboard or whatever. Have our way they Mabel may be able to you know, to work that and especially if you're not in the same zip code, especially don't a buy wing 'cause you can't you can't spend time together. Like, you're able to again, the compliance and everything with collective bargaining. I'm not really sure of that. I think it's a great way to really this kind of depth each other and try to get as much time as far as the buildings relationship. Whether it's dismantling or as we get into physically during a practice because it's been what almost it'll be almost over two weeks when the Cowboys falling play again, and that's a long time and a longer time for a Mike Hooper because he was on a by the week before with the Oakland Raiders. Yeah. I think people are going to have their phone with this. They're going to poke around and say, you know, why you face timing. You should be running routes. What's Saddam makes? We're just gonna we're just going to nitpick this all day long. And look I mean, and that's the thing about it. And we talked about this yesterday on the seven five, oh is that people don't really know the constraints that you have it's not like you can spend twenty four seven with each other. There's only a lot at mount of time you can spend together. I mean, they got five days off and during those five days, you know, it's almost like college now with the compliance of spending time with players. But again, I think it's just having the rhetoric going back and forth verbiage the Simon's, I think for me it's more of a mental aspect of horizon. Ask not the biscuit aspect of it because we know Amari Cooper, would it can do. Now. It's just a connection between a quarterback and receiver and grasping a grasp on the whole of the mental aspect of the playbook. And I think that that kind of brings you guys closer if they can have a conversation back and forth, whether it's face FaceTime. Whether it's in person, it's all the same thing. How much do you think is, you know? And I think this is important in all avenues of life. Whatever may be its quarterback and wide receiver. If it's a contractor and builder. If it's. You know, whatever, you gotta be you got to know each other. You know, you gotta show. I mean, and I'm not trying to say this is the coolest thing I would that their face timing. But even if they face timed, and they talked about their favorite Netflix shows or they talked about their favorite Halloween candy's, or whatever I think it's important because we're we're very clearly reading the tea leaves here that Dak Prescott is going to be the quarterback of this team at least through next season. Amari Cooper, is regarded as a potential cornerstone player, and Jason GARRETT'S exact words, he's only twenty four years old to that point. I mean, they have to to know each other. I mean, they have to you know, and I don't mean forget football because obviously they have to know each other and a football sense. But they have to be friends. I mean, does that make sense or am I totally wrong here, and you've been there? I think you gotta develop it's much better to be able to develop a personal relationship with one of your teammate. And you don't have to go to work. You guys are doing the same thing the same. Livelihood. You're trying to compass the same thing, but I always felt like it was great to be able to once you leave the Bill into build establish more. Just just a job relationship a work relationship. Go out and have a burger bear with one of your teammates. You know, build some build some chemistry other than playing the game of football. Or, you know, you're pharmaceutical or whatever your business may ban. It's kind of nice to get away from each other. Because to me, I think it's got to be a little bit more to the core of the personality. And I think that that's on the offense aside, especially if you look back at most the really good teams. There's some continuity built between amongst the players. I know what the offense align. No. When we when I was playing we had an eye where we all go out on Thursday night. We go out and have a cold beer, go to steakhouse and just build that camaraderie way from what we did at work. And I think that that leached a lot more because I. You can't coexist with that one. No, you can't like everyone. But you wanna at least be around. I mean, kind of this normal a bit more than just playing football, or whatever you may do you wanna get more inside their head that, you know, real estate inside their head as opposed to just let's go to work. Let's head us chemistry. And I think it's really important, especially when a new guy comes in. And you're trying to develop that type of relationship is to kind of really get some familiarity get some more personable on knowledge about because I think if you have a guy like that, then you really if you like each other because you can't like all everyone doesn't like each other. But if you like each other even more just as a co worker, and it goes beyond that, I think you establish a more of a more of a friendship Cher and not just a working relationship. I think it should be noted that look, I know people think a lot of things about Dak Prescott. But this is somebody who literally from an education standpoint. I mean, he's. He's, you know, his his degrees are in leadership there in psychology. I mean, he understands human beings. I think that's a really powerful. Then he's talked about before one into they'll get his doctorate. So Dak is a guy who who just understands how to relate to people, you know. And again, I mean, I'm looking at things separate from who is a football player. But if you know, some guys might like FaceTime, you know, some guys might not like FaceTime and Dak seems like the kind of guy who knows how to get along with everybody. And I think that's important to your point about developing camaraderie, developing friendships, and and building that chemistry because that has to exist to some level. The I think the connection is very important again if you're trying to catch up and really trying to speed the whole process the relationship in the National Football League is receiver to quarterback. And this kind of understand again, the verbiage and everything else that goes along and just talk about it. And it's like you, and I are relationship we have not we have yet people. I don't know this you, and I have not met in person right this. And so we Skype and we see video this pull the curtain back. But I feel like I know you because there's a face. We were the connection that we have. And it's the same thing. Those guys work together every day. And now they're just trying to really discount to give them crash course of all the the Berber JR. And everything else that goes along with Tonto again speed the process up and make this more efficient and make this an easy easier. Transition for him. I I've got no issue with it. I mean, I understand why the jokes will be made in the memes will be made and. It's I think it's crazy though. Welcome to two thousand eighteen where you can physically here. I am I wasn't born in the, you know, the technology boom and yet to play catch up. But I think it's a it's a much better place to be able to connect with people and not have to beat around each other eight or nine hours and still be able to continue being really get to know each other. Because of the of the I would say the interpersonal the fact that you can see other. That's a great rake technology vehicle to really get to know someone respect look at that. I mean FaceTime. I got you've convinced me, I gotta use FaceTime on my everyday life. I just I don't know. Why don't it's just it's so much easier to plug it the headset and put the phone in the pocket while you walk around. You know what I mean? But whatever. But so the Cowboys have the titans on Monday night, they're wearing different uniforms. Tony, I don't know if you knew this. The Cowboys are wearing their navy. Cops which you've won four and a why why pants white pants. They debuted that uniform last year on the road against the giants. Coincidentally. It was Dez Bryant idea to pair that jersey with those pants. So kind of funny that they're wearing it in Amari Cooper first game as a cowboy just some interesting irony there. But I like it. I do what do you wish you could have won that look the white jerseys always at home? I mean, what's great. I always like when we went on the road with with those uniforms and blue the blue, and then it was the silver pants. But I like the blue on on why I think that's a good. So I believe there's still and also like the throat back white helmets. I used to wear and that was pretty cool. And I'm sure they'll go with the star helmet for the game. But I think it's a good combination. And look change is good. I always thought to be innovative. And that's why I love college football. I love college football. Because of this how trendy and how vogue and what the what they try to do to make something stick out, creativity and everything and. It shouldn't be different with the National Football League. And I think you made the comment when the lions played the Cal God uniform hated that. But I like I like that I have no problem with that uniform selection. Look, you know, maybe throw something in there. And I'm sure that it's a they're going to be trying to sell those those blue jerseys all game long that will be something that will merchandise genius Jerry Jones and a Cowboys, and especially if they win, and, you know, everyone everyone will be wanting to get their blue jerseys at the game. It is weird though to see you're right. I mean, the navy at home is just it's just kind of weird you're so used to seeing the Cowboys at home rocking the home whites. But so the titans have new uniforms in general new helmets and whatnot. This just kind of a weird looking game. But the titans bring with them Marcus mariota who the Cowboys have not faced yet in the NFL. They bring Derrick Henry certainly formidable running back who hasn't really. Done a whole hell of a lot this season for the titans. They do bring Dion Lewis. And that's where I wanna start because I think Dion Lewis, you know, we talked about this back when we talked about the lions game. I was nervous about THEO Riddick. I think he was part of my bold prediction that week. I thought the Riddick would would have something like a forty yard gain in the fourth quarter, something that was wrong. Thank god. But I think Dion Lewis is the guy that you know, you got to be concerned about if you're the Dallas Cowboys because he can certainly kill you in space. Yeah. And that's that's the I guess my key players in this matchup. Derrick Henry is this the big running back. But if you look at what they've done this your offense. They're kind of they're exactly like the Cowboys. They really haven't got anything on you know, going thirty I in total offense in the National Football League. But if you start doing the forensic part of it and you look at. Dion Dion Lewis and two hundred seventy seven yards rushing. But not all not only that they use them. Really well as a guy as you just mentioned in spaces that receiver and Heathrow in Marcus mariota. His he hasn't been very impressive this year strong of just over thousands yards. But again, he's a dual threat quarterback. And the combination him the capable of being able to Ron and Dan Lewis. I think that that's something you have to really really really keep in check because you don't want solely. No want someone like that just to explode on Monday night football. But yeah, I mean the combination of Derrick Henry Dion Lewis and Marcus mariota as far as being able to use his legs and Ron bleed he has whereabouts hundred eighty five yard eighty-five yards rushing. Creates problems for any team or any defense you're gonna up against because as you looked in the National Football League. And look at the Dallas. I mean, they like every other defense in the National Football League struggle with a dole threat quarterback and Marcus mariota can can really hurt you if you just really get a little careless, and they'll think about what he can do with his legs. You know? I think this has the potential to be an I'm I hope I'm wrong, but this has the potential to be a really gross game. We're gonna get LSU bam on Saturday. And you know, maybe that all end up the to a whole element changes things a bit. But you think LSU LSU Obama, you think of like nine to three you're not I mean, and this has not not this year, right? My point is that's that's what your brain. Gus exactly. Exactly, I know. And I think this has not in an LLC Obama way. But this has the potential to kind of be like that because you have two quarterbacks at kind of still trying to find their footing on the season. You have to run games that are sort of interesting. But haven't really caught fire you have to defense's that are kind of Q, obviously, the Cowboys are a little bit cuter. And so this kind of feels like, you know, I think we could see like eight consecutive punts back to back to back to back. You know, something I thought was interesting Jim wide who covers the titans had a tweet on Thursday morning. He just was a few stats, but he's at the Cowboys are allowing opponents to score seventeen point six points per game. It's pretty good. You know, we talk about the dick lebeau rule if you allow your the opposing offenses scores seventeen points or less you should win that game. The cowboys. I know. Greco basically averaging that and their second onto the Baltimore Ravens who allowing seventeen point one. So you're you're off by half a point. But the titans opponents are averaging eighteen point one points per game. So basically the titans have run into some good defenses this year and the Cowboys could be the best one. So I don't know that I can see anybody beyond Dion Lewis really having an impact Marcus mariota had this thing with his hand all season where he's felt numb. And look Tony. I don't know if this will shock you. I've never played quarterback in the NFL. But I have to imagine that if my hand was feeling numb. It would be a lot more difficult than if it wasn't. Well, isn't that Ryan hell has the same issue? I think it's the whole nerve. And then and I may not be accurately. Correct. On Marcus mariota his injury. But yeah, when it's your you've hand is because I to this day. So that issue with all nerve. I mean, this something is always going to be chronic with me. I can imagine someone being able to have to handle the football, especially in your throwing hand with that problem. But you know, what I don't want everyone to fall asleep at their wide receiver. Tell J J sharp is a very viable wide receiver. And you look at what he's done up to this point. We had a touchdown in which say one against Philadelphia. He's a big is a fiscal type of player. So you just cannot sleep on some of their playmakers. And as you just mentioned, I mean, they really haven't got anything going again, they're kind of the mirror of the Dallas Cowboys. But collectively if you look at the play, the, I guess you you look at Zeke Elliot and compare apples to apples. They went in that category. The biggest issue with that is how how I guess under how how bad the offense alive for the couch. Boys have really played to this point of not play. Very well. So they haven't been able to get those things go on. But again tells you a sharp if you look at him and you watch him play and what he's done this year. He could be an opportunity for them to get things going again, as I just mentioned, you know, the dole to dole threat of the quarterback creates problems for everyone. I just I just don't want everyone to just fall asleep on that particular player. No. I think that that's fair. I mean, I don't mean to say that the only guy that can hurt you for the titans, obviously, Corey davises solid as well in certain regard. But they're not these household names. You like look like who's this guy knows a lot of that people would look at it. And I I've never heard of this guy and unless you cover them unless you've seen them play. They're not these big household names. So I just you know, and I look at this. You mentioned college football though, while Mike rebel people have said so often that he wouldn't make such a college coach. I just I don't know that I'm. I'm nervous about Mike Ribble. I think it's worth mentioning that. Jason Garrett is so far on the season undefeated against you can't say rookie, head coaches. But I your head coaches with their teams, Pat Shurmur, obviously, it's as I you with the New York Giants, although he's been a head coach before Jason beat him. Matt Patricia we mentioned those Detroit Lions Jason Gopi him. So he's to anno- against teams that are coached by guys in their first year with them. So Mike Vrabel certainly fits that Bill. And I I mean again, I mean I don't mean to underestimate or look past the titans. But I mean, tell me tell me where it is on their team that you're supposed to look at in shudder. You know, what I mean, there isn't a whole lot. Maybe people are looking at the Cowboys in the exact same way. But there's nothing on that team that I'm going to lose sleep over this week. If that makes sense, well, let me just kind of let me go over the rundown of the teams that play they lose to the dolphins twenty two twenty seven to twenty. And that's in my. Damming the Texans. They beat the Texans twenty two seventeen Jacksonville nine to six. There's your nine the six game in in the bottom of the tenth any extra innings. If you wanna look at it that way, and in Philly, they beat Bill twenty six twenty three the bills thirteen to twelve the ravens they lose twenty one to zero and they lose to the LA chargers. Twenty twenty two nineteen look at those teams not a lot of those teams. You look at wins and losses, and that's not very impressive with all those the seven teams that they play at three and four make the margin of the the only I guess the game you can really consider that they got blown out or not blown out decisively. Got beat was twenty one zero right a game. And if you wanna look at that and also if you wanna look into the vision or plan, it's really kind of a week division. I mean, you have you had the Texans which are what five and two now and below that. And you have a Jacksonville you have a Indianapolis Indianapolis with the titans are in second place in that in that in that division. So that's not if you wanna look at it that way, like, well, you know, they the margin of the losses are not that much except the ravens. But then you gotta look at who they've played, and you gotta get them credibility or not. But again here this all the time and it's hard to win a game every week and seemed like an Anassa football league because of the parody. Sure. And you know. I think I don't think I think when they beat the eagles everybody. I think everybody was ready. Everybody was ready to jump off. And believe in everybody's okay? Now, I'm ready to buy in on the titans. This is how they're going to be excetera, blah, blah. And of course, because they're the titans, they go, and they lose the bills the very next week. That's the titans are all. But so they are this. I don't even know that you can call him a Jekyll and Hyde team. I mean, they're just this lukewarm team that is sometimes warming. It's like sometimes, you know, like when you leave your coffee out, and you take a sip, and it's not cold. But it's Luke woman you like I can finish this. I mean, it's it's at a temperature that I can finish it, and it doesn't taste horrible. That's who the Tennessee titans are well, I like my coffee hot. I'm not an iced coffee guide. I am. I like to be a connoisseur or not a connoisseur. But I just know I drank a hell of a lot of coffee. But you're right. It's you know, they're attain that we look at who they played and the players they have on their tame. There's some really talented personnel. But the quarterback really hasn't played any kind of sounds similar to what we're again. There are a lot like the Dallas Cowboys three and four the only I think with Marcus agree with you the Amine Marcus and Dak both. Falling short of expectations. Have you wanna verbalize it? But obviously Dax not the second overall paved Acton win a Heisman Trophy and part of Marcus's issue. So far on the NFL has been the ability to stay healthy that has never been an issue for exactly right. But I I mean, so my point is I guess if I'm tight I think tightens fans should be more sour on Marcus than Cowboys fans are on that. 'cause if the doctor doesn't work out you lost a fourth round, pick, whatever. But if Marcus doesn't work out, dude, you had this insane chance, whatever, blah, blah, blah. You know, people like to give nicknames two games and stuff. I think this is the twin the Cowboys and titans. This is a show us. You're not dead game. You know, the winner of this game is going to show us that they're they're not lifeless. Whoever loses this game. I think is lifeless because I think we're right that these teams are both kinda, you know, kinda just hanging on in the world of relevance. And if you lose this game, you're three and five who which ever team loses and you're three and five you've already had your bye week. There's a clear sort of leader in your division as you mentioned whether it's the Texans or the Redskins and the Cowboys case and you're too far behind if you're the Cowboys obviously have the eagles on Sunday. So this is a show us you've got life in your locker room game. And I think the Cowboys injected more live with Amari Cooper into coaching changes as we mentioned that we talked about yesterday. It's kind of like, you know, when you're a little kid in your parents rearrange the furniture and the living room, you know, it's it just feels. Do you know? It's it's exciting. Oh, wow. The catch is over here. Now, you know, this is my view now of the TV, you know, it's a really exciting thing. And that's what the Cowboys locker room. Feels like you know, I like the label this game as Showtime because you got the Cowboys had a bye week and they didn't have to play until Monday night. So again, it's it's been a long time since I played that had a hell of a lot of time prepare so to me, it's Showtime. And then you got the titans or the right there the three and four or they Mike fray bills, the new coach, and they really again they had some guys that can play. But really there again on offense really hasn't been this much chemistry. So we need to develop you mentioned earlier Marcus mariota has been been fighting this injury in his hand. And it just kind of a weird deal in that. It's Showtime game where it's on Monday night. Football national TV as you mentioned. Early Jason wins coming to do his first broadcast after he's retired it in Dallas. So it's kind of a Showtime kind of the flavor game. And I always thought the teams that really kinda struggle. This is the kind of environment. It kind of brings out the best in you brings out some of the things you've been missing on either you're going to respond or you're not going to respond. You know, you mentioned about the furniture humanely, and they're going to like it or not like it or you wanna move it back. The the other way my wife doesn't like the couch over there the TV. You don't have the best angle. I mean in this game you want to have the best best seat in the house to hopefully, see some Showtime performance style. I mean, I agree with all of that. And I agree that it can bring out the best you, I do think it can bring out the worst in you. You know, some some teams rise to the occasion and some teams fold under pressure. You know, the whole shuffling thing. It can either be rearranging the furniture in the living. Room to a great way, or it's just shuffling chairs on the Titanic. You know, it's one of those two, and you don't wanna be the Titanic team, by the way. Did you see last week? They announced that they're going to relaunch the Titanic. Did you see that? No. So they're going to do literally rebuilding. An I don't know all the details. So if you're listening, you know, and you have some details tweeted at us, but I don't know who they is. I don't know if it's like, the Titanic company or whatever. But if kind of ironic by whether we're talking about the Titanic when it has the titan in it this week of expanding they they're rebuilding the Titanic like in the same image of the original. And they're going to launch it on the same course that the original launched on on its anniversary. How just I I haven't heard that this breaking news to me because. Oh, I love the movie, and I love all the history of the Titanic. And in fact, that they can't they go down. And they send that whatever that submarine. Is it goes down, right? Twenty miles down below excuse me in this whole theory about what happened. That's interesting that they would go through all that to build this replica of the Titanic and chart. That course. Yeah. So how about the icebergs they're going to have a big iceberg. Are they going to build technology where they they don't think it a second time. I hope by. Yeah. Would you go on this? Because that's when it popped around. Everybody was talking about. There's no way. I would go on this thing. I will be honest. I went on a cruise not this past summer. But the one before that, and I hated it. It was terrible. I just did not. So I if I, you know, forever going on seven five road trip not going on a cruise and didn't know what I did. I was the same way. So my whole deal is that before that I had like I was really kinda nag. And I'm not going to give claustrophobic and I won't like it. But I actually went on my first trip. It went on a it was Christmas cruise with my family, and that could be different. I can it. So we went, and it was it was I had this different type of perspective of cruise after we were on the ship because I realized first of all if you like the drain which sometimes I do, and if you like to eat like entertainment, and you like going all these different excursions different places, and you like it. So I kind of had a different attitude where I really I go on a cruise because I thought that I'd get claustrophobic, and I would hate it. And I don't have a problem going on a cruise now. Well, don't go. I have a hard time gaining all the way to afterwards. That's all you do on their see. But other than that. It was it was a blast. Don't go on the I feel like that's tempting fate to go on a ship built in the image of the Titanic on the same course as the Titanic on the anniversary of the Titanic. I mean, just just let's not do that. You know, why why do we need to do this whose idea was this? So I assume this is going to be sold to the public where you can actually go on what that's my understanding. It's pretty cool. I do like a whole the notion of the whole experience of the Titanic, and again, just gotta keep an iceberg. Exactly. But yeah, very funny. Not funny. But interesting that it has the titan in. I am kind of a cool little segue there. But so I think there is an iceberg in this game for for one of these teams. And you know, hopefully, it's the titans they hit it. I think that somebody is going to hit an iceberg. And I think that you know. I people say short we I don't know that. I mean, I've never been through it. But I don't know that playing on Monday night football is short week the same way Thursday night football as people try to acquaint it. I don't think it's the same thing. But this game. I mean, I don't see a reason why the Cowboys shin win. I mean, the titans are a lower team. They have a rookie head coach. They have a quarterback. That is a question Mark at the very best their power runner. Derrick. Henry hasn't really gotten on this season. So they don't have an ability to put you away their defense is moderately interesting. But if you're the Cowboys you have the premier defense in this game. I imagine Sean Lee we'll play it on Santa reason why he wouldn't Jason Garrett didn't say anything about him not practicing on Thursday. So you've got Sean Lee back conceivably played well in Washington, obviously got late and Vandross Jalen Smith everybody coming off the bye, DeMarcus Lawrence who's been fighting that shoulder thing coming off the bye, I think the hot boys and everybody are going to be ready to rock. So I'm not at all worried about that. I think that this comes down to in terms of every phase of this game who the Cowboys can be on offense. And whether the Amari Cooper edition will be enough. Well, I agree with you. You should be probably the best health at this point juncture this point in the season because you know, you've had a bye week. And you've had a longer your games not till Monday. So I think everyone a needed to get treatment to get healthy to get re-energized and be everybody should be feeling. Pretty good. There's when you get halfway point in the season. Always thought it's kind of nice to have a buy week. Maybe we eleven. Later because you know, that's kind of the point where kind of rigor mortis start settling a little bit. He starts everyone's hurt. I mean, everyone's nicked up. I mean, that's landscape National Football League. But defensively when you look at the matchup. I liked the Cowboys what what they have done to this point. And again. You know, it's an offense. That hasn't really got anything going with the titans, excuse me the. Yeah. And so you automatically think well, you look at the match ups that should farewell for the Cowboys. And again, the only thing about me is that if you're you look at anything it's a quarterback that can run because I really think that the titans are going to come in here. It do exactly what every dual threat quarterback does. And really try to watch film and try to find, you know, bits and pieces where you can get you know, crates and plays in trying to figure out how to get Marcus mariota. Get him more in the rhythm and use that aspect of it. But on the offense aside the ball when you look at the titans defense again besides I mean, there's a defensive lines pretty good. If got Malcolm Butler, and it's kind of the sexy name, they've Gerald Gerald Casey is a big defensive tackle inside is very athletic. If you look at the forensic the players. Kevin buyer is a tremendous safety. Kind of reminds you Earl Thomas Kyra minds, those type of safeties of play centerfield is a tremendous tackler eats up a lot of screens. So there's a coup- there's some playmakers on a defensive side of the ball. And you know, again, it's it's the matchups it's their defense person versus the Cowboys offense. It's the Cowboys defense versus the offense which offense is going to actually be able to generate some type of points some pie some type of big play yards because you just can't look at the names right now. I think we agree right now the Cowboys it's not you can't look at the resume and what they did last year or even. It's not on the resume. It doesn't intimidate. None of this right now. The offense doesn't intimidate. Hey. It's all about what they decide to do again after two weeks after by week after all the stuff has gone on the dynamic of Amari Cooper, fire near offense, align let's see where it's at. And I think that they should have a lot of energy going in this game. And the most important thing, you know, they're not going to say this. But, but you know, Jason Garrett has got to figure out how you look at the Cowboys, and we talked about this. And I know that I'm getting along with it. But you look the next nine games that they play the Cowboys going to be realistically going to be able to go seven and two. Now, I it goes that's what it's going to take to get them in the postseason play seven and two. I mean, if you can theoretically drop two games, this cannot be one of them. You know, you're you're likely going to drop to other games. So you cannot drop this. One. I agree with you. It's hard to predict because we haven't seen it. What this kind of feels like from the is have you ever had Julio's chips that the brand Julio's. Okay. So they're really good. They have all these awesome seasonings great with solid and stuff. And so one time we were making dinner and seven what are we gonna make for dinner tonight? We had some leftover Steph we'd may taco salad earlier in the week. And I said, you know, what let's just baked the Julio's with chips and star with cheese and stuff, and let's make notchers sentiment. I didn't know if they make good nachos because they have all the seasoning. So they're not like normal just chips. And so we threw it on while. I was in the oven. I was all excited now is like man, this has potential, you know, it could be really great because through and all this stuff. And I pulled it out in the first bite. I was kind of like, whoa. There's a lot of seasoning on here. I'm not super in love with this. But the more I ate it the more. I was like, you know, what are J? You're a genius. This is fantastic. And this kind of feels like that like we're in the oven right now. We don't know exactly. What is going to be? Well, we all know if you put the now, this is I don't know if that applies to me because I'm probably one of the worst person fallen directions when it comes to cook. I will say this. I tried. We tried blue apron, which is one of these, you know, your order the bills be the internet, the Linney all the greatest. But for some reason, I just couldn't. It didn't taste like what my wife when she made one of the mills. So maybe I was doing something a little different. Maybe it was just my, you know, the way I was putting you know, maybe I didn't follow directions as well. Because I think men have the propensity, maybe not the follow directions. That's what I say. You understand this one of these day, you know, as you as you get married and even a relationship, we all know men and women are different. It's one of those. It's like this doesn't look like the picture. It's nice it. But so when you look at the Cowboys and the offense we see what did the greedy and say have in all last seven games. They you know, they try to mix all ingredients in there. We said how good it stays before. But for some reason just like you talk about those nachos. You know, sometimes you put the right spice on him cheese on it, by the way. I just rather this put this plano until St. to- chips or does not and just put the cheese because it's all about the cheese. But anyway, respect, I it's kind of like the Cowboys with the ingredients is like, okay. Well, now, we added a little bit different gradients. You got you a wide receiver. And you got your maybe the message. It's not going to change overnight. Right. But you're hoping the ingredients that they put together on Monday nights, gonna taste pretty good and the directions read, the directions and everything. And when everything is is the Millis serve. Hopefully the mill is served on a big offense of explosion platter. No. I liked that. I like that a lot. So I don't know what element of the nachos. Amari Cooper is. Maybe he's the jalapenos because he spicing things up some people don't like how the pantyhose on their nachos. But they're wrong. So on the subject of Amari Cooper last week. We talked about the over unders that the guys in the desert had put out for him over the season quickly to revisit that. They set the over under for receiving yards from Ari for these remaining nine games at five seventeen and a half you and I both took the over on that they set receptions at forty and a half we both took over on that. And they set the touchdowns over under at three that's three touchdowns in nine games. That's pretty low. But again, it's a new shuffle new quarterback. I mean, the Cowboys haven't necessarily thrown a lot of touchdowns this season to begin with. But the over unders from art Cooper this Monday night against the Tennessee titans are out Tony. I want you to guess them before I tell you what they are. What do you think the over under from our coup? Yardage on Monday night is. I'm going to go eighty five. That's what you'd think they listed it as right? I'm gonna listen to eighty five. And if I was going to set the over Anonima Tony's over and under the eighty five. Wow. Will you would you know? You know, these guys are giving betters a far greater shake at this. Then you are the over under from Ari Cooper's yardage on Monday night, fifty point five five zero point five. Well, maybe that's my my Barry over optimistic. Well, I say I would think the overall at I would take the under on eighty five. But would you take the over on this? I would take over on the fifty. Okay. So you take over on fifty and a half. And I've got some other things that I think are interesting here. What would you say the over under the didn't have one for touchdowns, but for receptions, so receptions, just in this game? What they said he would have the over was fifty two point five at five point five yards. Someone do the math. I'm gonna I'm gonna go four receptions. See that's why you're the man it's exactly for that silver under. I don't have a treat or anything. But I know that you have some kind of your house. I was going to do the averages. But I'm not really good at math. To the app after we finish the show. Do me a favor. Go get a piece of candy. TC house, and that's your treat for guessing this. Oh boy. This oughta Rabah TC house. The over unders fifty and a half yards four receptions. I think I would take the over on the receptions, but I might take the under on the yardage because I think I'm always going to catch something like six balls on Monday night. But I don't I don't know if he'll he'll break fifty yards. It'll be interesting to see how much you know, how much I'm sure they're going to implement him in right away. I would say he's going to start the game. I mean, I don't know that yet. You would say, but he's listed as a starter as okay? So he's going to start and will be interesting to see how they use him. You know, they'll having about as a flanker receiver, you know, co basically in the slot. It will be interesting to see how the tide decide to defend Amari Cooper. I would say single caverns at first because. Right now. No, again, he hasn't what played three weeks and this the whole dynamic, right? And I just don't know how much they're willing to give up him and big place. Right. But I can see him break in one. I could see breaking a thirty yard or something. Yard catch. And if he gets three three of those that sixty yard there. And so you sprinkle in, you know, ten a five or ten. Yeah. Then that way it had to have at least over on. That would be is. I just said four receptions, then you're probably looking to be able to get eighty five. That's the Lisa five or six receptions. Right. Right. So I mean, it's interesting, and I will say this. So I wrote this other blog on the boys dot com, if you're listening and you want to kind of look at the information yourself so Amar is broken these marks twice so far this season. And he's only played a handful of games with the raiders, obviously. And it's you mentioned he's been on by forever. He broke both marks in two games. So he had over four catches in over fifty yards in two separate games, and they were against the Broncos and Browns, and again that was earlier this season while still with the raiders now Amari Cooper has played in fifty two total games so far and his NFL career, obviously all with Oakland and. And in those fifty two career games. He's broken the over under that they're setting here for receptions. They're saying four receptions, so breaking it would be five. He has had at least five catches in twenty four games. Twenty four of his fifty two that's almost half. That's amazing. It's literally almost fifty percent. And what's even more amazing is so fifty one yards would be the the break here. Because the over unders fifty and a half he's had at least fifty one yards twenty five times. So almost half of the time. He's done. So that's why this is a good over under. I mean, they don't call the desert for no reason. And so while I think I agree with you that you could certainly see Amari Cooper breaking off twenty six yard catch and then a thirteen yarder, and then a twenty two yard or whatever and kind of quickly piling up those yards. This is kind of his wheelhouse. Say at least that's who he's been with the raiders. I think I'm really looking in this game to see what he does for the other receivers Kobe's rank and some of the other things you may open up because he can has a reputation as a vertical receiver a number one receiver. That's going to be interesting to see what he does for that. Because. Kobe's Lii in the last game. I mean, he was in, you know, over the course of the season he's shown to be their number one guy. I mean, he's been the number one receiver as a slot receiver. So the whole dynamic of bringing someone like a more kuprin. What's he gonna do the other facets of the offense for the receivers? I mean, what is that going to look like that's going to be interesting to see how that kind of opens up. Also, I agree with you. And that kind of takes me to my bold prediction. It's that time. Tony, I know we were on a by last week. But we always kind of round out with a bold prediction each for the upcoming Cowboys game. So I think this I totally agree with you. I think that what Amari Cooper is going to do on Monday night is going to be more visible in other pieces of the box score. And so that's why Michael Gallup has one hundred ninety receiving yards on the season. I think he gets a buck forty. I think that Michael Gallup is the biggest house -ciary of Amari Cooper on Monday night. I think that so much attention is going to be given to him. I think I think that's a really hard thing. If you're the titans out, we don't really I don't think anybody's really mentioned that. If you're the titans, it's hard to prepare for the Cowboys this week because you don't know how they use Amari Cooper. I mean, that's just a whole extra folder of film to have to watch have to watch a Mari as well as the Cowboys. I think that Michael Gallup benefits, and then he has one hundred forty receiving yards against Tennessee. Wow. That is interesting perspective there. I would never thought that he would be that guy the benefit that much going in this game. I really didn't think about that. I think it's especially that many yards. Yeah. I think it's a combination. Nation of things I think it's a confluence because Dak Prescott is I mean, obviously the Cowboys lost Alaskan. But he was kind of finding himself kind of finding from a confidence perspective he drove down late to bring them within three points, obviously that didn't work out. But he obviously had a great game against the Jaguars. And a lot of what he's done. He's been on the ground. I understand that. But Michael Gallup has really kind of been finding himself within Dak Prescott, and we mentioned chemistry and comfortably and getting to know each other and becoming friends and whatnot. I think that Michael's kind of at that point that that point of assimilation where in November now. And I think that losing take on Austin who's not expected to play in this game was kind of you know, we use this phrase a lot over the Aussies kind of an addition by subtraction in that it forced the issue it forced Michael Gallup to be sort of that outside receiving the Cowboys needed. Now, they have a Mario on the other side. So I think all of those things kind of create this perfect storm that lends well to Gallup's case. Well, I mean, I tried to the courses season on my pull both predictions. I've went offense in this week. It might bull predictions are going to be on the defense side of the ball. Imagine that Tony Casillas puts on his uniform goes out there for. I wish I could go out there for one game. Check. I I have two kids going to college next year. RJ I saw by the way, congratulations to your son. I accepted to the university of universal. Komo. Thank you very much. That was one of the one of the schools he applied to and and we'll see what happens. We hasn't made any decision yet. But you know. I'm just trying to figure out that whole dynamic twins going going to school at the same time. But anyway, really interesting, I'm interested to watch chain champions. But back to the bold predictions. I went gone off instantly because the matches, but I really like the match. I liked it in the match ups the Cowboys defense versus they're the titans offense. Again, I think this is could be a feeding frenzy we're talking sharks in the, you know, smelling the blood. Okay, fritzy, I think this is going to be gained the Cowboys shut him out when I maybe maybe some MA be one of those really borne games as you mentioned early LSU versus Alabama, but Alabama's a lot better. Now, they found a quarterback. But I think it's going to be a game where the Cowboys really exploit the lack of offense of production on for the titans this year. And I'm going to predict that they to turnovers on on defense. I think Byron Jones I think this sets up for him. And the linebackers. We mentioned right off the top of the podcast. I mean, Jalen Smith. They this is probably the the healthiest this team has been on the defensive side. It's got Sean Lee back doesn't same. He's. So you got a tremendous amount of death. I think it's going to be one of those sharks in a frenzy. And I think collectively it's going to be one of those gains were talking about a New York Giants performance when they had what in week week to where you looked up in the third quarter. They excess. Yeah. Exactly. So as a whole overall the bow prediction for me is not a shutout. But they're going to hold them to least I would say ten points. So you got him to force turnovers, ten points or less. So basically if we tied a bow around your predictions, just the defense kicks ass. That's your. Technically, I didn't really didn't want to get into the stats, but it's just going to be a very dominant performance by the defense. I gave it to you. I'm down with that. So I've got Gallup for a buck forty you've got the defense flex in on the titans takeaways. Okay. I dig it. I did that a lot. And so let's pick this game. We've been all over the place picking things this weekend or not this weekend. Season for the Cowboys. I tell you what I'm really personally looking forward to this weekend. I drive obviously to every home game and driving on Sundays is such a bummer because I've got to listen to the other games going on on on the radio. And so this is one of those weeks where you get LSU bam on Saturday, and you get to watch all the games on Sunday. And then I get to drive on Monday when nothing's happening in the world. So I am personally excited. I'm so excited that I'm going to pick the Cowboys to win this game. I'm going to say twenty six to for you. I'll say ten that way. You're able prediction comes true twenty six ten Campbell's. Well, I gotta follow. I got to piggyback on that. Because the Cowboys have not lost a home yet. They're playing tennis. Tennessee titans. And again say until the blue in the face, and you got two weeks if a pair so today to be fair so both of them. And and that's a great point. But I always liked the teen the play. Home after the bye, okay. And again, you know, as you just you just mentioned the ad. You know, they got a lot of they seen a lot of tape on the Cowboys. They've seen some of the match ups and that they can go to. But again, I'm going to go with the Cowboys. And I'm going to I'm going to say, I'm not this because they have Amari Cooper doesn't mean they're going to solve the second half thirty five points. I'm gonna go twenty two six Cowboys win. Okay. You know, you're right. I mean, just because it is immoral. I mean, nachos are still nachos. Even if they have jalapenos on exactly we've got to get in the end zone. Yeah. Exactly. I will say that in each of the last two seasons. So both in two thousand sixteen and in twenty seventeen the Cowboys won their first three games after the bye. I think that's again. It's just that doesn't mean anything is the different team different year different set of people different receivers and everything you wanna talk about. But that is. Is that does suggest that Jason Garrett uses the bye week effectively? Whether you're old coach Jimmy Johnson thinks so or not. I we saw call him Hollywood Garrett. Yeah. That's a good holiday spending. Hollywood. It's been out in LA on the by weekend. I'll just say this the only game he was at as far as we know the dodgers won. So I mean, maybe the dodgers blame Jimmy Johnson for not letting Jason go to ten dollars games because then maybe they'd be the World Series champions. I don't know. I mean, I'm just stating facts, Tony. I mean, these are just love and Jimmy Johnson stirs a pot. That's true. That's a good good point. So so we both got the Cowboys. We've got some good things happening for them. This can be really exciting. And I really do that. I like the home team after the by which makes this game all the more important because after this game the Cowboys traveled to take on the eagles who are currently on their backs. So they will be the home team after the bye next week. So you got to have this one or else things could get a little dicey down the road. Yeah. This is guy. This is a very not a desperate win. You know, what if the Cowboys are what's the way they want to go? This is a game that they they should win. So yes, it's a must win. I I think that there's a negative connotation with the word desperate. I think that's fine. It's a definite moment being yet. Desperate more hungry. Exactly go go cash in on that desperation. We'll be back next week. Hopefully after a Cowboys win hopefully on a Tuesday edition of victory. Paulo monday. See it still victory Paulo Monday. Even if it's on a Tuesday tone. It's a very important detail. Doesn't matter we'll work that out then good show would enjoy the weekend. Enjoy LSU Bama. And and we will be back next week. This was the seven five. Hello. I'm Spencer hall from SP nation. And I wanna tell you about my new show. It seemed smart it seems smart as show about people doing things that for some reason or another seem smart at the time. 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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 440: Is It Time To Overreact (9-24-2018)

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 440: Is It Time To Overreact (9-24-2018)

"Hi, it's Jamie progressive's number one, number two employee leave a message at the, hey, Jamie, it's me Jamie. This is your daily pep talk. I know it's been rough going ever since people found out about your Capella group mad harmony, but you will bounce back. I mean, you're the guy always helping people find coverage options with the name, your price tool. It should be you giving me the pep talk. Now, get out there. Hit that high note and take mad harmony all the way to nationals this year. Sorry, it's pitchy progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Price and coverage match limited by state law. Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the Golden State media concepts, football podcast, your latest news on and off the field, be it college football, ten SEC, big, twelve Pac twelve ACC to the NFL with. Got you. Covered. Listen to Golden State media cut sets football podcast. Right. Welcome. Yes. Paul podcast episode brought to you by the GS z podcast that worked and as always I am host Jesse top. Well, I guess as always, at least for this week, I will be leaving this show along with the others that I host. This is my last week here. I got Jeff back on the show with me today. Go in and say, Hello, Jeff Liu. So Jeff will be on here. I'm not sure who's taken over for this after, but I do know Jeff will be on the fantasy football podcast, right? Yes, I will be. That's gonna be on Friday. Yeah. So make sure you guys check one out. But like I said, this will be my last week so we should make fun. And I mean, great fun with all the injuries that happened. Yeah, these it gives us something to talk about you. We're gonna overreact bit. Well, I don't know if we are gonna overreact, Jeff, might have some patriots adults takes done takes. I'm my, we'll see where it spend the first segment talking about that game last night. Second segment, we're gonna look at the games that took place the other Sunday games took place for that second segment. Third segment, we will be talking about any early previewing, the Monday night football game. And then for the fourth segment, we'll probably get into all. Those injuries that happened on Sunday. So that's how today to talk about the referee in the passenger controversies that have been going on. We hit that is I have a few say about that. Yeah, we'll hit that for the fourth segment. Definitely hit cool so forth. Say we'll get into roughing the passer penalties. I mean, I got some thoughts on it also. And then of course we had a couple of big injuries happening over on Sunday music member. The dolphins defensive tackle toys. ACL try not to land on their car, and I think that's we will get into that later, but I think that's ridiculous. Yeah. So we'll talk about that. So for the foresight, let's get into that Sunday night game Jeff thought that patriots were going to win this one fairly easily. Everyone did. Yeah. On the land, they lost the point Anders last week and they got. They were only two. They weren't looking good at all. Yeah, laying the patriots who are like the patriots. So it was. It was almost like an easel and easy math problem now is so we thought looking at the score, I'll get into the stats right now. Detroit. One this one twenty six to ten Stafford twenty seven thirty six throwing the ball two hundred sixty two yards. Two touchdowns interception one interception. They finally realized it's good to run the ball thirty two total Russia's. If you're not counting Matt staffers one little caring for ten yards. Kerryon Johnson sixteen carries hundred one yards. First blinds running back in four years to break a hundred yards things. The last was Reggie Bush. It was Bush. So you had that the Garrett blunt sixteen carries for forty eight yards receiving numbers, Marvin Jones, four receptions sixty nine yards and a touchdown, golden Tate. Six receptions sixty nine yards. No touchdowns and then you had Kenny golladay with six sections for fifty three yards and touchdown there the patriots, Tom Brady probably the worst game. He's had a few years. I'd say fourteen to twenty six. They're on the ball hundred thirty three yards. One touchdown one pick. So any Michelle got fourteen carries in this one only rent for fifty yards. No touchdowns James did well run the ball for carries for thirty seven yards there gronkowski again. Limited in the second straight week only four receptions for fifty one yards. Chris, HOGAN three receptions thirty one yards. Rexburg Burkhead two receptions, twenty six yards. And I mean, no one else really notable besides James, why do had three receptions for fourteen yards but turned into a touchdown there now that we don't the stats, Jeff, go ahead and give us your thoughts on the game and what you think of the patriots. We think the lines pretty much an overview of it. Well, I'm going to say this to start having the lines head coach used to be the defensive coordinator for the patriots, maybe gave them in advantage like he would know their weaknesses because they lose a lot of guys the he probably knows a lot of those guys, weaknesses and strengths. And he probably used that in practice. He probably practice harder than he probably had them practice harder than anyone else in the whole season. And it was a motivation game the lions because they needed a, they needed a motivation because they lost two straight to the jets and forty Niners very good teams and going against very talented. Well, maybe not talents. Anymore. I'm not sure it's hard to tell now a days of how good the patriots are now, it's I know they had a rough day. I know they also had a rough day last week. They just haven't looked the same since there's rule appearance last last year. And I mean, you look at the patriots. I mean, it was clear that they have no real talented receivers. Okay. I get that. We've always seen them plugging guys and they've always worked, but the Philip sets of the world, we know what they are. Philip Dorsett was a first round pick for Indianapolis, Andrew luck. They couldn't make it work. All right. So tell me that Philip door set is going to be this miraculously player on the patriots I get. Like I said, I get that they've plug guys in and they've gotten better, but there's a point where that's not going to work heading into the season. I thought that the patriots the, yeah, they had some problems as far as receivers, defense and all that. But I thought that this was a little bit different. That's why didn't pick them to go to the Super Bowl, something just feels different. I'm not going to say that this team has done or anything like that, but like I said, it just does feel different. Do you think like this is something that the patriots September they'll pick it back up or do you think it's maybe a little bit different this time? I agree with you. Those little different. And I believe that we're looking at the end of the empire known as the New England Patriots. And what I think about that is when patriot fans are heavily losing season, and I think that's coming in the next couple of years. No one's gonna feel sorry for them like they're gonna have no sympathy from the rest of the league. And everything comes to an end every era, every dynasty comes to an end. And I think we're looking at the end of the patriots dynasty, and you'd think the end comes a series going to be a gradual decline, gradual decline. I won't say it will drop right now, but I will definitely say their their losses will add up going from season to season. And then once Brady calls it quits. I think it's Dan. There's going to be huge drop when Brady calls it quits, gronkowski calls, acquaintance, ballot check will be right behind him. I mean, Josh mcdaniels. He could've took that job over in Indianapolis. I think he chose not to give. Maybe Bella check told him, hey, you stick around here only got a few years left. Once I'm out here at this is your ship to captain Josh mcdaniels will becoming into an impossible situation. Once he, I think eventually a worse situation than any Annapolis. When you look at it, you're gonna have to follow this dynasty that went on for twenty years. The coach that's considered one of the greatest of all time. Yeah, good luck with that one. Yeah. Let's say maybe the greatest. I mean, I know people like Bill Walsh, Tom Landry, and all those guys. But I think ballot check has his success. It's homeland career hit. Didn't really do that much. I, he coach for twenty six twenty eight twenty six years. Granted, he only won two Super Bowls and that span. Yeah, but one thing I think that we've seen in me being younger, I was more than ninety six, whatever you think we've come. How do you say desensitized to the fact that the patriots of done literally, no other team has done and we talk on Friday. I think it was Thursday, the Cowboys dynasty. I mean, they won two Super Bowls back to back and then got another one a couple years after that, this pages team has been dominating twenty seven, twenty eight, then lost the Niners of the NFC toga mid next year. And then in thirty, they beat the Steelers and the infamous like Neil O'Donnell throwing right to Larry Brown twice in receptions. That was, it wasn't even really a game after that, but you're right. They only won three Super Bowls in that considered one of the greatest NEC's ever put Niners won four Super Bowls in a nine year span, which is or eight year span, which is also impressive. But the patriots did better. They won five bowls around the same. Well. They say, won four Super Bowls in that eight year span also like over this little year that they're run that they've had for the past twenty. It's not twenty years that year eighteen of dominance. But I mean they've won five. They've been to eight, I think the the eight appearances. No one can duplicate knowing can compare to if not for David Tyree Mario Manningham the Nick foles basically having the game of his life mean we could be saying this team of also safe. It wasn't for passing on the one yard line either. They could only have four that is true. That hurts of too because I did. I thought it was great. It is all the Seattle fans were so happy and like they're almost kind of toxic of how cocky they were, the man in the bandwagon and everything. And once that happened, I'm like, that's bittersweet is it's, I think it was happy for everyone else in the NFL that the Seattle laws that go back to back rather than patriots winning another one. See, I did have a wager on that came and them throwing the ball on the one yard line resulted in me during a bowl of salsa. Yeah. A lot worse. We're not to get into the entire bet. But yeah, just because the fact that I remember sitting down in my friend's place I was in college at the time and I'm like, well to win, and I'm like, looking down if he goes eating like Chipper look up and then I see Malcolm Butler just dive in grab the ball, and I literally almost spit on my food and everyone else's in the kitchen because they thought the game was over to. And I was like, what will happen? I'm like, maybe the greatest thing in history just happened. It was unexpected things. History just happened because when was last him. So one got an interception on the one yard line in the Super Bowl. I don't think that's ever happened before, especially in that kind of manner. And I was watching the my friends. I pull my garage. I'll standing there next to what they were sitting down and couch and I'm talking all kinds of trash talk in them thing. I'm gonna win this battle. I gotta do give the bottom marshawn, and we'll be fine. And then Russell Wilson does the pig and I just dropped to it and I was just I was done, but either way, elegant, the patriots getting back to. I mean. Brady in the game yesterday, his body language was absolutely terrible. The do was tossing his helmet. I mean, after every drive it seem and it's just like I said, something seems off with like the patriots yesterday. We both watch the game. I mean, we both tell that they got bullied. I don't think it was one where the Troy. This specific obviously had a game plan. They wanted to run or something like that, but it just seems like they told the patriots. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to double gronk. We're going to run the ball and you're not gonna stop us. Do you think Brady is ages cash 'em to? It's. May off topic, but I think I think it's age. Honestly, it could be 'cause I mean, we've seen, honestly, I don't think it's too early to say because the guy kind of has gotten better one now, forty one now I think so, yeah, you can only do so much after playing for that long. Your body is not as strong as it used to be. And I think it's, I think it's slowly it's kind of far, but slowly he gets hot and then slowly gradually decay. Yeah, maybe because I mean, the only reason kind of hesitant as far as the college is because the fact that the guy won the MVP at forty years old last granted if doesn't blow out his knee, he gets it. I think that's my opinion. I think everyone thought that, yeah, just giving the year good with. He took the eagles. What? Twelve and three or eleven three. I think there were like twelve and one something like that. It was something. He was only last two games. This season. Foles was playing. Have been west, carried them to the one-seat. I mean without Wentz that team isn't do as well. But as far as Brady and still say, like eleven five with foale's defense was pretty stellar. Yeah. And there were a lot of offense of weapons, but with Carson Wednesday that put him up to that one seed. It's true. And then you get the patriots. I guess I'm still kind of hesitant. I'm not. I'm not going to the patients for some reason are just different the way this dynasty has lasted the way Brady has gotten better as he's age like it could be that like forty one is that magic number for when father time comes to get him. But like I said, it just kind of gotten at least the last few. He's got better each year. I'd say as aged. I don't think he's going to retire though. I think that's an years I would say once if they don't make the playoffs in these couple runs in the in his last couple years, he will retire once they make the playoffs. I think he's going to be his like, okay, it's time. I think he'll make the playoffs this right. Say Brady's last year is the year they. Don't make the playoffs and on that's going to happen or anything like that. But if there was ever time they'll be way to convince himself that it's over. Yeah, could be. Did you see gronk to? I mean, there's been reports coming out that the patriots tried trading him to the lions the summer and said, tire, which I don't blame them. Yeah, and he pretty much confirmed yesterday, said Brady's guy. So I mean, I watch why Brady's gone. He's gone. Yeah, that's why I think I think that's what's happening or gronk my leave before Brady does. Honestly. I mean, gronk seems like a smart guy in the point weighed. I think I read some articles on how he's managed money. Well, it doesn't really spent his contract. He said he hasn't been one of his contract. It's all been sponsorship and -dorsements and all that. So I mean, incredible as much fun guy. Yeah, him in marshawn Lynch, intelligent guy. Yeah, he went there Zona. I mean, I know I went to also, but he's he said he has been one cent of his contract. I don't think marshawn has either. Yeah, marshawn Lynch is here. He was helping four one ks and all that. So I mean, it just shows that there's good sides of these cocky players which. I have a lot of spec for those two, especially like they're smart enough to know not to blow their money all the way because you see so many NFL players are like on welfare and stuff like that. Now because they took their starting contracts and just blew it all on. Autumn blew it all on expenses that are on ISIS, airy. So we'll see what the patriots. I mean, I'm not writing them off. I've still expect them the when they ease probably win a game, the playoffs. He writing them off or we just wait and see. Not yet. I don't. I don't. I don't wanna say they're done yet. It's too early to tell because we've seen this before where September basically. Yeah. And then also October November. They're the best team in football. Again, I just say the only difference, I guess this, here's the fact that now they've got a tape who has jumped out to a hot start, usually the patriots starting off slow, but so as Miami New York and buffalo. Now you got my means three. We'll see they could sustain that the buffalo. We'll talk about that next thing. But yeah, I'm flabbergasted. I was. I was looking at that game, like, are you kidding me? And then a few thoughts on the lines before we wrap up. I mean, it was a nice win. Upsets this week of upsets. Yeah, it's true. And as far as all our picks it for like three, we can, we split on some and then the bills. There was some great games, but definitely the lions was the perfect way to end that week because it was just like a huge ups at twenty eight, twenty six tennis. I like, oh, they got off lucky. They handle them the whole game. I don't know expecting lines like tabloid Caesar or anything like that. I think wholesome, twenty six, ten Tobago. That gives you a lot of confidence going to next week. Yeah, but I mean, we saw the Cowboys lose to the Panthers eighteen six week one and then beat the giants. I mean convincingly week to Sunday night, and then they got beat up by the seasons, all upside down. It's bizarro world, see what ends up happening. But we're wrapping up here next up Jeff. And I will be talking about the other games that took place on Sunday. So stay tuned and we'll be right back. The average sedan is built with a steel frame and equipped with six airbags. 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I mean, I wouldn't know right now, but I would definitely say like they're not went into division say they might get a wildcard is that wildcard spot is like guaranteed. I think a lot of teams are for that NFC wild card handy. If see wildcard, and if you got, I guess it's called wild card for a reason. Yeah. Look at it Brady, the patriots are going to be the story. So I just the way it goes, but either way we move on a bunch of games to cover from Sunday besides the Sunday night game, obviously. So let's get into it. We had these saints and falcons right on that one that were chew on. Yeah, I'll give you that. When they went to you over time, you had the saints winning that one forty eight where you game, you end up. You watch that one. Calvin Ridley showed why he was a first round pick. He was a beast that game, and I had him on one of my daily fantasy teams. He forty three points. Touchdowns those great. You look at it saints one that wanted overtime forty three thirty seven probably the game of the week he. Yeah. So I mean, we always had a tithing game around two minutes left in overtime. Three minutes left before the saints scored. You had another time. I thought it was gonna be a little bit, but then the driving on the field. And then I was like, okay, breeze, got this and breeze. This apprise me bit come, Eric actually carried that drive at the end needed play well, but it's still like I feel breeze still leading that teen one way or another. Yeah, looking out at. I mean, I'm still kind of on, I think, like father times comfortably played while yesterday, but. Well, he did you still like mayor. He still had rotator cuff surgery, so he still like, and that was, I know that was long time ago, granted, but like that he he was already borrowed time at that point. Any did pass bread far for the most completions all time. So obviously he's a I bow hall of Famer. I don't think we can have an argument on that first ballot and he's got a Super Bowl ring. So this last season, it's gonna be sad to go see a player like that go, but it's well deserved, retirement is one more year. I'm curious to see what happens with teddy Bridgewater. He's I feel bad for him because he was looking really good, Minnesota then tore his ACL. Like really badly at practice? Yeah. Then he got back in use claimed pretty decent. Then he goes to the jets where he thinks opportunity than what I think it was off season preseason. He got traded, right? Yeah. I mean, it seemed like sign with him and got traded that next month. It was. It was an idiot move for him to go to the jets. I mean for them offering maintenace possibly. But for them to everyone knew they were taking a quarterback. I actually think since the forty Niners are down to quarterback, who knows they might trade for him to. Yeah, we got to see though what the saints plan is for him to breezes gone after next year, for sure. I'm just thinking twenty nine hundred probably looking at all backup quarterback options at the moment. Yes, we'll see. What was that? Jay? Beth third is going to be there guy why. I mean, it's just like it's still early in the season, so I think maybe the well, we'll get. We'll start for forty Niners next game. Forty Niners loss. To the thirty eight, seven comeback. They're only they were down thirty five to seven second half. They were come close Mahomes at three hundred and fourteen yards. Three touchdowns I made another great game. Obviously dairies don't give them too much credit. That's true, but I haven't been doing it for three games in a row, bright, but it's how you finish. I'm going to say that every single time how you finish SOC what ends up happening. But other story from this game is Jimmy g. did tear his ACL idiot from him. I get you wanna get as many yards camp, but you're the franchise quarterback. You're not Michael Vick it out about it wasn't like he got. He just stepped on it, right. It was kind of like one of those, like a one in a million Pappa thing. You step on your just pays in. Yeah, because I saw it seemed like it happened on the cut because I think as soon as it happened like at first Twitter and all that they thought it was like he got hurt because of the hit, but it's nothing. Yeah, the hidden have any soon as he cut Lance before you can't control that. I don't think that's like a bad thing. Like even if he tried to go to bounce, who knows that. Plant still could happen. I think they came from like he was heading toward sign and then did is cut to get back into the field. I mean, if you're Jimmy g. you're not running quarterback, you know that your quarterback franchise quarterback has to get him for it, I guess. But you're a freak accident in my opinion. Yeah, because how many times have we seen that and so wanted to walk gets up fine. That's true. But like I said, it's just a point of your the quarterback, even then you shouldn't be going into the open Phil. You can get hit right. Should you get not a bounce, to be honest, how months to protecting the quarterback. He could've got an easy flag for that. Yeah. So I mean, I guess that's maybe what he was thinking to get a quick fifty penalty, get on the one which could easily happened, but I think he was just he was thinking just fight for x. yards and give them credit for not not not backing down, but I think it was just a freak accident with his leg. Fortunately, he can come back next year, sorry to interrupt, but he came back next year and not have to change much his game. Yeah, because he's still arm. Mm still good is everybody's still good. He might not be able to move. He doesn't really move a lot and he holds on the ball way too long. I think that was a huge thing that I saw a big problem with him and he just took too many sex. But I think what this learning this and going next season and I think were unrest in going to next season. He's might have a career year next year, who knows? But I'm hoping for good things for them. I mean, as far as it goes, I mean, this is like at your waist development and you can't really, we're going to scale when we have it here knee real quick. Before I move onto the next game, your choice as to who you'd like to see, come in for the forty Niners. Yeah, Beth art. Or do you want someone else? I want something else because you better play last year he played. I know it's it's kind of same team that he had last year. It was playing pretty sloppy and he's third round pick. He's he's he out of Iowa. He's kind of he was picked to be a backup made to be the guy. And I think he's going to be good replacement for now as they're looking for someone new. But I think like someone like teddy Bridgewater could be cooked, could easily come in and help out the team allot or RG three. If they want to trade for him, which would be risky because injury prone he is. But there are a lot of good backups right now in the NFL that could easily take that spot. The forty Niners. There's quarterback who take into the Super Bowl years ago. What's time who. Colin cabinet. I like to see him back. I wanna see cat back in the league. I remember when he was planning. It's a new. It's a new system. Yeah, shit ownership of this new general manager new coach. He he could, but I would be very surprised if he would just come in and get starting. Job was last through pass as he has even training. I'm sure he's been training. I mean, these guys are always trending just to be ready because you never know that calls come. But the Niners did bring Tom savage today for a workout, which I hope would not be the case because he's not a good quarterback in the slightest. Maybe maybe bringing savage the backup to Beth hard, but we'll see what ends up happening. They actually do need a backup for their backup. So they're moving on. We had the raiders dolphins raiders now own three dolphins. Now three dolphins winning this one twenty eight to twenty their car. I mean played all right. He threw for three hundred three hundred and forty five yards. One touchdown, two picks one of those pigs. I think it was on Mark Hooper. He kind of gave up on the route. The other was one where it was pretty much go up and get it with twin. Exactly and Howard and Brian and Martavis Bryant exhibit Harvey Jon Gruden regretting taking this job. I think Gruden nude is going into ten years. He you don't expect first year to be great. Good. Here's ten million dollars. Yeah, Gruden going into the season. He knew he was talking about it. You knew this team wasn't great years, ten ten million a year. Yeah, it's one hundred for I'm sorry for coach hasn't coach long time. That's ridiculous to me, but I understand why Jon Gruden got this. And now that he's and three, I think people are like, oh, I think he wants to go back to the booth which I wouldn't blame him in situations of how bad the raiders are playing. But I think this is the reason that it was a ten year contract is this could be a long process. I mean, grew starting out the season. He knew this team wasn't very good. He talked about it was very open about it and gruden's brought in to coach the Oakland Raiders. He's here to coach. The Las Vegas writers. Gruden is a popular phase and we'll sell take. It's out there at various. You looked at Miami tunnel through four hundred and eighty nine yards. Three touchdowns our Wilson, their receiver through pass fifty two yards and a touchdown. The go ahead touchdown to run a little trick. Play their mine implying. Well, you got exhibit Howard I think is one of the more underrated corners in the league. He's seven interceptions last eight games and I think since week, thirteen of last thirteen pass deflections which leads league. So we'll see as far as Miami, I'm not going on saying they're going to be one of the division. I mean we still gotta win su- how's the patriots? But Adam gates on that team has gotten off to a solid start moving on from that game, you had the bills with the dog in about this, the upset of the weekend, I'd say of week three. They beat the Vikings twenty seven, six, Josh Allen might be sneaky athletic. All right, so I'm off the ball once he that dive into the end zone. He was like superman a little bit. He any jumped over one of the Vikings linebacker, Anthony Barr. I forgot about that. That was so cool. Yeah, he had one hundred ninety six yards. One touchdown there. I mean, those are solid. Ricky numbers. You can tell them against an elite defense. Yeah, with a team that's not. Elite in this latest are the, I'm gonna ask the question just to get the conversation started are the Vikings the little overrated. I wouldn't say right now. I'm just saying weeks. They terrible against the bills. No question about it, but I think they maybe underestimated the bills all too much. I'm just looking at understandable. I'm looking at it from last year to in the playoffs. Okay. They get into playoffs. Let's not lie to ourselves. Okay. Vikings fans included. They advance the NFC championship on a flu play. Well, the the safety Saint squint for the hit steak way too early in Madden and kind of cost them the game right there. And then that doesn't have if he gets tackled, it's a what? Maybe three seconds left and at a balance they couldn't. It was either feel that probably would've put it into overtime. I'm pregnant with the final score was, but that was very lucky play. Got a five year contract. He's lucky. Yeah, and the saints were clearly the better team there. Then you play the eagles. You get blown up, then you're moving on here. I just like I said, I don't think they are, but I think there's a conversation that maybe you could have. Okay. Losing a game. Like this. I mean how I know it's professional football teams at all. Is it just they overlooked or is just a bag a bills motivated than anything that to be blown out and they played, they played their best football. I do their best football the whole season, who knows. But it's every every team gets that one game except for the Browns last season. We won't get into that, I guess. But if you're a team that's quote unquote, a Super Bowl contender. You shouldn't be losing to the bills. Twenty seven, six. I mean, you're paying did make the playoffs. Let's not forget what by a wide things of magic happening. Yeah, but they did make the playoffs. And with Alan, I really like I, I learned impressed me like Alan, everyone's like, why didn't you take Rosen? He was the overall better quarterback Allen had some accuracy issues going into the draft, but he kind of proved them right almost taking him in. He played really well like I didn't expect in play that will I thought he was going to be struggling, and then you look at rose in this week if go going up little more to the game, he threw a costly picket the internet game. So move on his right who was wrong. It's still to be determined. We'll segue to that. Cardinals bears game to bears. One that went sixteen fourteen you mentioned, Rosen, come in. We talked about on Friday, rookie quarterbacks coming into the two minute, like with two minutes left really don't have time to think you mentioned the interception, but how if you're the cardinals head coach, Steve Wilkes. How on earth are you going to send your rookie quarterback and with literally two minutes left in a close game against his bare Stevens house, the guy supposed to succeed there. He had Sam Bradford. So I think he's justified is terrible at fourteen points going into that, but Sam Bradford not he's not a good quarterback. That's true. I get entered the league as is been trophy winner. And then I think that trophy. It's bad luck with most players. I know a lot of players in the whole thing with Heisman Trophy, but with quarterbacks like it comes as almost a curse. If you're running back and won the Heisman, you're destined for Barry. Sanders, Heisman Trophy winner. And one of the greatest of all time, Tony Dorsett was Heisman Trophy winner. And then you look at the quarterback who won the Heisman. Tim Tiba was a Heisman Trophy winner. I mean, let's look at that in particular. Well, you don't gotta be mechanically wise a, he was his popular one Heisman. Yeah. I wouldn't say that Tiba was one of the baddest. People have a washing college football, Florida team was without him. I mean, do you know how Tiba was though Tibo running the bowl, like three fourths of the time. I can agree to disagree on this one. I mean Tabo Tibo let's he did wanna playoff game in the NFL to he threw a slanted, Damaris commerce who ran it like eighty yards himself. You gotta get all to Maria's Thomas. You gotta get the ball though. People have gotta get low for marriage. Thomas, he, he ran that ball. He stiff arm like two different players scored t-boz a winner, though I winner stop at this time. You're saying he's not the most skip. Bayless. Let's move on is a winner. I mean, the most mechanically gifted quarterback, the Broncos gut to the playoffs for a reason. I mean for the where you the guy like were you one of the guys like, hey, the jets stardom? No, never that never that I knew Tiba was done after that, but that season. Okay. We're gonna have to move some of these games to the next one. A bit over. No, I'm just saying Tibo for three quarters was terrible Tibo for the fourth quarter. I'm not sure what it was, but he got them all good, four quarters. I'm not. I'm not disputing what quarter guy. I'm not saying Tiba was going to NFL. I'm just saying that he did win a playoff game. I'm stating a fact that. Hit a friend with Jesus. Okay. That's one of the main reasons he was so well to SNL did all skit on that, and I think it was a truth. I mean, that's fine with me too. That's going to get the team wins. I mean, I'm sure Denver fans aren't necessarily. Mad that it gets the patriots playoff game that after that, I mean, how did how does it Philip rivers that against the patriots though to Philip rivers hasn't beat the patriots in his career in that, oh seven, playoff headed tourney CO still lost that. I mean, we have bunch of other games go off to all right, fine, fine. Let's get. I don't know how people's I'm in the NFL. I don't think he's even the minor leagues anywhere we're still talking about on what is going on. Tibo ratings Ascii SPN. I mean they spent that whole era, I think, has a poster of him stolen in his room. Possibly. Let's get into one more game in the. We'll finish off the rest of Sunday slate. In the next segment, go Packers Redskins one that you were right about the saints and falcons. I was right about Redskins of Packers. Redskins win this one thirty one to seventeen Roger closer. I did too. I mean obviously the Redskins made me look a whole lot better here, but I did think it'd be closer Rogers still playing with the knee injury. Two hundred sixty five yards. Two touchdowns Goodall. Alex Smith, two hundred and twenty yards. Two touchdowns one pick. I mean. Is these teams like the good teams that you expect to do well kinda struggled. The teams that you wouldn't expect to do well are playing better. I'm not sure really what to make Redskins the Packers. I mean, I'm kind of confused or one one at one, one one in one. What do you think of? I don't know yet one is like you don't know if that's a good record or a bad record or like you can't tell they're stuck in the middle. Exactly. Like and within Roger still hurting, it's still playing that well, and if he's healthy, this team go to playoffs no doubt about it. But if he is hurt the whole season and if he can't get back to his one hundred percent, this team, I don't think makes the playoffs again for the second time in a row. Yeah, you're not selling anything wrong there. Let me take a look at the NFC standings before we get into the third segment of continue on right now, say if the playoffs ended today, which they don't. Obviously, you got the egos leading the NFC east Chicago leading the NFC north, the undefeated. So far Tampa. Bay bucks in the NFC south tonight. And then that's far as the two wild card teams are actually got the Rams in the west that three as far as the two wild card teams, it'd be the saints and Redskins. I mean, like I said, things have a really start off the way I wouldn't expect. Well, I think we could say that for every year every year is unexpected how it starts, but how it finishes is usually the same. Yeah. So I guess we'll see what ends up happening, but we'll wrap it up here. Like I said, Jeff, and I will get into the rest of the games in the next segment. So stay tuned and we will be right back. The average sedan is built with a steel frame equipped with six airbags. Remember this, the next time you see someone walking drivers be aware, pedestrians, don't have armor a message from the California office of traffic safety. Find out that the two Emba Allah. Go, would that take in this, hey, we hit. We've. We've been Alexa play Arianna 'Grande. Okay. Amazon, music voices. All you need, get tens of millions of songs, download the Amazon music app today. All right, welcome back to the football podcast. I'd say last segment maybe went off the rails a bit. When we got into Tibo little, he'd. I was that was good though. I was good now move on and we'll finish up with the rest of the games that took place on Sunday. We will be previewing the Monday night game for that fourth statement. So when's back yet? Wentz versus luck eagles win this one twenty two sixteen. Let me take a look at these stats for both quarterbacks played well, two hundred and fifty five well. Well enough to hundred and fifty five yards. One touchdown. One pick Andrew luck. Threw the ball forty times. One hundred sixty four yards touchdown. There whence was fired up that game. Yeah, you tell love in it. Yeah, especially considering. I mean how bad they looked in the first two games as a nice little bad. I would not dating Luther Super Bowl form. They weren't up to the standard. I'd say. Yeah, you got luck the Dicken dot king. Can we give them that now houses only four yards. Passing completion was only for my any through how many passes forty. Oh, my didn't throw a health didn't throw the hell Mary at the end of the game, either physically can't. Do you think that him not throwing the hell Mary passes something or is it nothing? I think it's nothing because it's a hell. Mary. Well, if you need you, sometimes you need that deep ball to change momentum of a game Aaron Rodgers. He's the king of the hail Mary, and he's considered one of the greatest, like it's hard to say you're the greatest throwing the ball and saying a prayer, but you need sometimes like even if a guy like Hilton's a fast guy, he should do those fly routes and just throw it deep down the field I think is you can't do that. Yeah, I think luck is still currently a work in progress. The fact that they had them throw at fifty three times week one and forty times here through it thirty times last week or something like that. Some lower number beaches, like a west coast offense thing with him for the rest of his career. Like short passes and running. I hope he does at least get this team to the playoffs. If you times, I think we, if if this is the Andrew luck that we're going to get for the rest of his career, and then we say, we're definitely cheated as far as missing out on maybe watching someone becoming on time. A lot of guys though, I think Angela, we'd knew this guy was going to be. A top five quarterback in the league. He was out some point because one of the few guys where coming out of college, you know, okay. This guy definitely like there's no question about it. He will be a great quarterback that two year span was him and Cam Newton? Yeah. Like if he was on the same, became new buddy, huge. Like who you go with type thing. The Panthers could have gone with the Andrew luck if that was to were available there. I remember his last season. I think it was last last year, his national championship in the rankings. They don't give a pack twelve team number at seven thirty. You're not getting looked at not fair, but I remember watching him play their one of their home openers at San Jose State do win for like five touchdowns. I'm just saying I got, I'm just saying I saw edgy playing absolute like shredder, but I always win those games. Always take with green assault, especially if I like Arizona, like plays southern Utah, where sixty one points. There is other new tall kind of disappointed me the season with how Khalil. Well, actually, like, yeah, true. I still think he just needs another year. I think that was too premature. My opinion. He wasn't Heisman finalist, but I think next year he'll like once Kevin, someone has more time to work with them. I think he's gotta. Let them take off the ball like Lamar Jackson, but getting back to this eagles game. I mean, it's business as usual for the eagles Wentz plan while all Sean should be back next week. I'm assuming back it's gonna be a different ballgame. Yeah, that'd be, like I said, businesses usual. So I sort of went there for the eagles, especially at being at home show the fans take a bit of a little cyber leaf. They're moving on. We had the Bengals and Panthers. You ended up getting the better of being this when you took the Panthers. I went with my God and took the Bengals doll in. I mean, Cam new win to MVP form again for this one game Cam Newton's actually been pretty good for the first three games. If he keeps playing like this Panthers are a playoff team again. Yeah, I think I think my superpac I remember exactly. I think it had that making it line. Yeah, this year. Yeah, I kind of it was dark horse. Pick earlier on the off season. Nam should go ahead and do it. But yes, speaking to camp hundred fifty yards passing two touchdowns ten carries thirty six yards. Two touchdowns their four total touchdowns. And then Christian McCaffrey lead him doing work on the ground game twenty eight carries hundred and eighty four yards. Usually you see those numbers as far as receiving. No, this was him running the ball. McCaffrey was a guy coming out of Stanford, people thought. Can you really do a kind of thought of FBI's been finalised? Yeah, I think so. Kind of like the Thomas type of player coming out of college, but he's showing he could run the ball in between the tackles outside of tackles and all that winter definitely want these. Not a great in-between. The top weekly on us, I think people like, oh, a white running back. I mean, yeah, you're not wrong about. I think people took that with that also. Yeah, and very well, the perfect offense form. Yeah. And then you got Andy with a classic Andy, Dalton game, three hundred and fifty two yards. Two touchdowns four picks this guy still threw for three hundred and fifty yards. I don't. I don't like him Ryan tannehill, Derek Carr, and Blake Bortles quarterbacks who will light up the score sheet look like, oh yeah, we're definitely the franchise quarterbacks. I mean, you did right by picking us up and then they'll have games where it's just kind of like, okay, maybe we're not too sure about these guys here. I mean they have. They're not consistent, that's for sure. I think that's the problem. They have great games that poor games, it's, you gotta have a guy that's consistent. Yeah, especially at the quarterback position. That's four and four th and foremost, and with a guy like any Dalton who can take a team to playoffs. He's done it before, but he's also played games where he lays the biggest of eggs. Yeah. And then you guys have been consistent at the receiving, at least for the Bengals Tyler Boyd, he had six, eight green. Hurt. That's a huge dad might be a huge problem yet. It's gonna hurt my fantasy team right therapy, Tyler Boyd, six perception. It's just a groin injury though. AJ greens was just growing. I don't think it was any Terry thing. I don't know. I think I think they are doing today. So you said you Tyler Boyd six receptions hundred thirty two yards. One touchdown AJ green before he left five or sections fifty eight yards. John Ross about as disappointing as it gets three reception sixteen yards. So bust. Post nine. Yeah, not not yet. It's only year to last season really get enough snaps and these receivers coming into the league to Calvin Ridley. Yeah, he had his big game on Sunday, but a lot of these other Cevers it seems like they need time like they're not really coming out dominating like we have seen before. And then we mentioned, Blake, Bortles are minutes classic last week against the patriots. He throws for four touchdowns this week against the tines. He throws four hundred and fifty five yards zero touchdowns they lose that one, nine six. I mean what? A baseball score? Yeah, this was like if you're a Jag span or titans fan, I feel bad for you because of the fact that you had to sit through this one market worrying gain Marcus mariota ended up playing twelve completions at eighteen hundred yards of do you like Marcus mariota like as far as quarterback Zia franchise quarterback for the titans franchise? I don't know. I don't know. Are you if it's your choice? You can let them walk or you gave them a long term deal. What are you doing? The money. Bortles mating money eighteen to twenty mil year a little bit more. Maybe eighteen to twenty four. You're paying them somewhere between there or you can look to the draft and try and find someone else with this draft. I don't see someone with that talent at the quarter physician, so I would. I don't wanna kind of a long term because you have to it sound like it's. It's going to be a top choice, but maybe if there's a free agent or trade we can do, I would let them walk. But right now I think I would hold onto him. He just he's not the same as he was in Oregon. So I question for your. So let's say flacco says last year with a wall titans. Are you taking flacco? You're gonna, bring him on signed flag. Go to be your quarterback or Mario all take Mario to over flato day of the week. Flacco is not a lead. I don't care what anyone says. He had one good playoff run. Was he done since what's he done flacco at one point, his career was a late and then after that Super Bowl run, he fell off. He got over hyped people thought he was great quarterback in reality. He's not that great. He's, he's a, he's a, he's a game solid. He's a solid is a game manager. Perfect example, game manager, not meth. I guess he's down a guy that can carry your team to a win, but I would think mariota still over him mariota. As more mobile can throw the ball better, I believe than flacco and I think heaves more weapon. I think flacco maybe got a little too complacent to and he got way overpaid. Yeah. I mean my opinion way overpaid. I'd say winning that Suba was probably the worst thing that happened to the ravens giving you did have to pay him and then speaking of flacco Andy ravens, they did beat the Broncos twenty seven to fourteen case keenum another game manager. He had just like a one good solid year with a good team around him, and that took him. And I think people forget about flacco. He threw a lucky pass in the against the Broncos ironically, divisional round two. What's his name? He was only number twenty rate. He was term and also for today. Thank you. Yeah, that's how much he's been doing since then. No one's heard from sense. Flacco pre SuperBowl was elite flacco posible was not like I wouldn't even say pre-civil. I would say that one playoff run it. He's elite that one season I wouldn't say before then I wouldn't say after my I can't really argue your point there. You are right and case keenum again, same thing, one good year. He and he's been a journeyman like we said before, ever since he's not. He's not a franchise quarterback. He is a guy you put in when you have a good team around him. Yeah, on a guy that can make other people look good because this one only three or four hundred and ninety two yards pick Philip Lindsay thin film. Lindsey objected from his game. I think he did. I believe he went into a dog pile early and third start throwing punches. Yeah, his like really gotta get a, not a good mental thought then meant I think I don't know if he was defending someone or. But it was not a smart decision? Yes, we finished before you gotta check before cares. Twenty yards that opened up the door for rice for him, and he didn't really take advantage. Thirteen carries fifty three yards. He's keenum because I thought they thought they, that was the final puzzle and winning reality. That's not the case at all. They're looking back to that year with Peyton Manning where they won the Super Bowl when manning was absolutely garbage in his last season. But I mean, the defense and the receivers around him did enough to get far deck surgery that was like before the call. It's that last. I think it was just more what did he get surgery in his last season. I don't think his last season was just father time catching up to and his defense was elite. Yeah, one of the best defense of all time that year when you have to leave in Chris Harris, junior von Miller, you had everyone at one position like dominating? Yeah. And with this Broncos team, it's not the same. Obviously, and case keenum is not paying manning or anyone that is. He's not. He's not a quarterback. Make people better. Like I said before guy that does manage the game, and if you have good players around him, just get the ball, those players, but it'll have that Thomas not that guy anymore. He's not playing well at all much older and you'll get flacco two hundred seventy seven yards. One touchdown. I mean those do those numbers managing game numbers to me. Alex Collins eighteen carry sixty eight yards and a touchdown buck Allen six. Six carries seven yards in touch touchdown there. John Brown, who I ended up picking up on my fantasy team. I mean he's been solid for the ravens won. He Crabtree I guess, quote unquote, is there one, but Brown has been the better receiver through three gaps. He's done nothing since leaving San Francisco, Oakland. I'd say he was solid car one season with car when they went to the playoffs Scher. But what they wanted from him did not give him. I think he was supposed to be like, go to anywhere any jump. A lot of passes. I'd say Crabtree is that possession type receiver way. He's not gonna blow. The top defense doesn't like he plays his role. Well, I think it's maybe just high expect patients who? Yeah, that one game in Texas Tech was that one thing where put into one against Texas. We're used at like those two guys on silent somehow kept his feet in bounds and won the game. And I think that put him in that top pick which for the forty Niners it was a pig as you needed wide receiver, and he did fairly well with him when you have him in Vernon, Davis as your go to receivers, it's a pretty. It's a tough match-up for the defense and with Colin Kaepernick that was Goto played really well. And then he goes to Oakland and he's, he's not that go-to guy anymore. He was kind of like a two or even a slot receiver. I'd say he was the to there. I mean, Cooper, obviously you're gonna have Cooper be the one given. I mean, high draft and all that. But right, John Brown said for the ravens against the Broncos five receptions eighty six yards crapshoot who we just talked about seven reception sixty one yards there. I mean this raven receptions, but like how many times you think those are subsidies caught the ball and didn't run got titled immediately Asia, say the possession receiver get opened soon as you get on the ball, he's into go down. But I mean red zone threat. You catch the ball in the end. On you. Don't give it to him in the middle of the drive because he doesn't. He's not good with the ball for the catch. I'd say right here we our classic wave team where the defense could carry them to the playoffs. And if. That I don't know. I mean, you look at the AFC north, is anyone really impress you like the Bengals have been good, but do they impress you would put the Bengals over the ravens? I would too. As of right now, I mean, you look at the ravens. They're sneaky kind of two and one right now they've always been that way. They've never been a one or two. They've always been look on there on the plane. Maybe they sneaked away to the playoffs when it comes to the playoffs. I want to play the ravens. The Baltimore ninjas is how sneaky they go into the playoffs. I almost every year. And like I said, you really wanna play. You look at the playoffs at the, oh, the ravens are in it. You don't say, oh yeah, the ravens are in it. Yeah. The ravens have never really been. I mean, just same thing. The giants, it's like, oh, they're in it. That's cool. Yeah. And you never really wanna play those teams and moving onto the actually the giants and Texans game surprised us both here. I mean beating the Texans twenty seven at twenty two. You had saquon Barkley seven seventeen carries eighty two yards and a touchdown. Ally actually played well. In this one I will give it to them twenty five twenty nine two hundred ninety seven yards. Two touchdowns to Shawn Watson. I mean his stats look nice, but Rosen clock runs twice a day. Yeah, I guess right twice a day. Yeah, thank God. I did the saying wrong and Shawn Watson I mean his static nice, but he's just some kind of missing at three hundred two touchdown. Take this Barclay that offense align. Gives him nothing he has to. He's on the. He has to move the outside which he's better on inside runner. When you look at Penn State? If he had a better off into line would be playing so much better offense line. Holding them back which I surprise eighty and take off into linemen yet even quarterback even then I mean he did have seventeen carries for eighty two yards and a touchdown, and you'll get the Shawn Watson, like I said, three hundred and eighty five yards plays. A lot of Texans. Have kid have to have chances to tackle him in that game and guest. Granted that's going to happen, but it happened every single time. It cut the bowl. Yeah, and they do have offense online. But like I said, I mean that you said that is kind of a running back job to do is to make that first guy miss, but you gotta have something for a line to give you a chance to react. You get the ball, you're gonna be right there on your face and that happened a lot and moving on from that when we had the chargers and Rams battle valet, I'd say they both combined closer could be charges. Did impress the Rams are just too good. That's just what it is. They want thirty five twenty three rivers, two hundred twenty six yards. Two touchdowns. I'm surprised throw picking this one Gough looking. Like he's not so much system quarterback rather than just a good one. Three hundred fifty four yards. Three still impressive. Yeah, three touch and over three fifty is like you helped. It's team win the game. I mean, would you agree that the Rams are currently the best team in the NFL. Yes. I said no one they get about right now. Yes, be as their defense is something else there. Todd Gurley is a machine golf has proven that he can help this team win, and there is even cores, no joke either. I mean, there's a solid everywhere all around. There's I don't. I don't see any weak points and their offense align is no joke either. They do play the Vikings on Thursday night. That's going to be a nice game there. You leaders their biggest tests so far in a little bit tough for them because you got Andrew Whitworth offense lineman, who had minor knee surgery. I think it was to leave ended up coming out with an injury. Now, Peters has a caffeine. I still the Rams is the best team in the NFL. Yeah, I don't think like them versus the Vikings and be one where it's like, oh yeah, this team is not the best after that week, no matter what happens and then we can both the randoms team. Yeah. And then unless the Rams jump off a cliff, I don't see them losing that position. Yeah. And then moving on to the next game, you had the Seahawks and Cowboys. Is the final game will cover for this segment looking at it Dow's looks side of the entire name. Yeah, hawks one that one twenty four thirteen Russell Wilson hundred ninety two yards two touchdowns and this what I said. I mean Russell Wilson is going to keep the Seahawks in it. They want always come out with a win, but they'll be competitive debt. Prescott hundred sixty eight yards. One touchdown to interceptions got sacked five times the guy hasn't played while, but his offense of line really isn't giving them an opportunity that kind of makes up that kind of is kind of house career. Was it Mississippi State? They were number one for what a week, I think so. And that kinda shows his NFL career had one good season. Now he's pretty out now. He's kind of scared to throw the ball almost. Yeah, Zeke Elliot. Sixteen carries hundred twenty seven yards. Chris. Carson got thirty two carries in this one hundred two yards and touchdowns about time. Carol finally started running the ball Tyler Lockett four reception seventy seven yards and a touchdown. They're good old, Brandon Marshall to receptions. Third. I think he's done for the season though about thirty four coming off season ending injury. This is, I guess, is here it's sad team to go wrong time to go to the wrong time. Yes, for the for Dallas, I mean called Beasley through sections. Forty six yards island Hearns two receptions twenty two yards. Douse team just isn't very good now, say I would say I wouldn't say last maybe last place depends with the giants. I guess that that division is. So I'd say Washington fairly decent Dallas in New York, not great. That gives it so Raynham. You cannot predict daddy, like even if you had all the research in the world. And the box. They'll be seven to eight one team, I think. Yeah, I'm saying I'm saying seventy nine six and ten six artsy that also. So we'll wrap it up here. 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And then for this fourth segment, we will be proving the Monday night game along with talking about, I guess, the softness of the NFL. I think that's more headed. Absolutely the softness. So I'm assuming when you brought it up, start to show you saw clay Matthews house. That was that was the cleanest tackle you would ever see it's bad when you have Alex Smith, who is saying the man who got hit? Yeah, now was nothing wrong with that. Hit the football play football. You have to hit them. It's I'm not going to touch football after this season. I don't really don't feel bad for players. That's one where I feel bad for claim out. If you tell you could tell he was trying to have a right way most classic tackle. That's like we learn pee-wee's. Yeah, literally trying to do it the right way. I mean when he's bringing him down, his hands are in the air like, look, I'm not letting my body white. I'm not doing anything. I'm just trying to do it the right way. And then you see the throw. Decision, and if he doesn't make the right one, which is laid back on those roughing passer penalties, then there's going to be huge. I think there might be a strike and that's and I don't know if it's also about pay, but a big part of it. It's going to be this kind of these unnecessary roughness roles that are absolutely ridiculous other, we will get a strike, but that'll be in a couple of years as done. Richard Sherman talked about a strike, and I think that's going to happen. So we'll get a nice little lockout be ready for that. I to the dose of loses job, but whatever. I mean. They're not going to change the rule because quarterbacks are their bread and butter. I'd say end you don't sorry to interrupt, but they don't give. They don't give anything about their other players like the other team. And because I guy in dolphins toys, ACL try not to get an unnecessary roughness penalty. So he's putting other players I risk. Yeah. I mean, you're right. It's all on Roger Goodell that injuries all in Roger Goodell and Jeb Tanti William Hayes injury. I mean, yeah, we'll Hayes or not. He said, but Adam gates, the head coach and some of the players. So yeah, it was just trying to avoid putting his body weight. We blew his knee up and I get what you're saying. Everything you're saying is right. But Roger Goodell the NFL Roger Goodell knows the NFL. First and foremost is a business, and that's how it's going to be ran quarterbacks, bring the money in. It's not right. But like I said, I don't think I think that's why nice necessarily true. I think characters bring the money in like guys with charisma. Like, okay. Thirds going to bring the money in. That you're right about, but Manning's not gonna, bring the money in. I don't care what anyone says. Yeah, you're right. Paint being many was great and also funny in also like charismatic. And that's why he's still in commercials to this day. And Tom in Aaron Rodgers has like he has that nice personality as well. You know what you're right. I'm not gonna argue. I think it's just from a Roger Goodell from his standpoint, what he thinks they believe he is wrong, but I do too. Yeah, he's I'm not a big Roger Goodell fine either. No one is. Yeah. I'm so happy when he gets booed at the NFL draft. It's like it's like you. They're not doing just because you the Commissioner there blame because you've made decisions. They don't like has any other Commissioner gone, the Buddha media's he enters the podium? No, I can't say agree. I can't disagree, but I'm also I don't think I'm all to the other two commissioners. I've watched sell drafts on YouTube and stuff and they don't get booed got booed in one hundred thousand seat of stadium, and it's not even just the players aren't fond of them or anything like that either. Yeah, no one like owners like I'm busy. Got they get money in their pockets, but other than that, no one else likes them. I mean, I can't deceive fifty million dollars and a private, Jeff. The rest was life isn't that? That's a horrible contract. I mean, can never ever play football. Did he ever maybe played high school ball. Exactly school. I'm just saying, I mean, I'll never hit on a man for Megan money, but you're right, it's he's putting other players I read it showed. Yeah. But like I said, I mean, Goodell's gonna think from his business from his standpoint. I mean, who cares? It's quarterbacks when Palmer toys as the bangles Tom Brady we had the no tackling quarter explo- the knee. That's one actually. With. I'm not just I'm just saying that Goodell over the years has shifted these rules to protect the quarterback. They see one that's good robot in the games in Madden, and they actually do that also in that because I played men the other day and I hold down ex and I got the tackle barely by the foot, and I got the sack on fourth down and then roughing the passer, okay. In real life. Understand in Madden. That's complete BS. But I do agree with rule though because hitting below the knee is just scary because not only muscles, but you could break that chin near and that's that'd be the grossest thing on the field max. I know I get that, but lending your full body on them. I, I don't know how that you're gonna you're going to go shop direction, I guess, right. We always flag die might be, I saw my flow pro-football was talking about how he wrote an article saying that there might be a time where the NFL just says, what's quarterback gets rid of the ball. Just can't touch at all. I can't. We can't stop midst like I get that. But I'm just saying like he might be right to the point where it's like, I understand where that comes from. But if the guy is tackling as he's throwing, you can't give him that. Yeah. Like DC that video on Twitter or social media about the guy with the the Green Bay Packers fan that took his girlfriend by put a like that. Exactly what it is now. It would still probably call penalty and I do get it and I saw the banana peel go into in the middle of laughing about was great because it's right. It's like, that's, that's where we are now. And I mean, it doesn't seem like it's going to get better at all. Actually, I'm not really like, I don't know how the sense because always the, they're not like just, okay, we're adding this world. We're done like adding a new rule as far as protecting the quarterback every single year at safes. There's a point where it's going to be too much one, Mississippi, two, Mississippi, three Mississippi. And then you can go after the guy. I mean, I would with the linemen still blocking. I wouldn't be surprised that defensive lineman allowed anymore. That's the rule. I mean might be crazy, but we might just end up playing seven on seven. Eventually I just can't stand that. That's it's key. Magin like players like back in the day, like the nineteen eighties when they when you see those brutal brutal hits getting fined, that'd be like, are you can make. One roll. We'll move like this kind of not NFL moved college football Saturday day off from my weekend job. One of the first times I had day off in a while, so I spent the day watching college football. They got a rule where you can fair catch it on the kickoff, return like the inside the end. So you could be on the field and if you catch it, the ball gets put on the twenty five. I hate that role that doesn't make getting. Yeah, it does. I hate that will and I'm getting. It's just a new rule implementing college football, but football's a lot of roles too. I don't. I don't like to make field goals either. I've I've where do these good kickers in the NFL come from view Tomi I leave your kids are terrible. Basely not division one. I literally watch college football all day from nine o'clock to. Signing missed extra point. It's almost gross. Yeah, I saw at least ten minutes kicks feel sorry for hickories and socially. They're done. I mean, I don't feel bad your college on. Okay. I'll tell the story when I was in Arizona freshman year, we were playing USC. And even before that game, we were playing cow losing byline, finest touching, right. We're making a comeback. He missed the extra point and I started yelling, middle stands. I can make the make business like the NFL words backed up. It's literally right there and then we're playing USC the ranked at the time and he's lying for fuel a, we'll, we'll take the win in. This is huge. During this time he whiffs the kid completely and feigns he got hit in like horrible acting job. Like even like every Innes mother would say, no one touched him and I'm like, and I just thought that was the funniest thing I'm like. I feel bad for him is all like I was talking like some girls and stuff at classes, and they were just like, I don't know what I don't wanna be around him and some of them like, and it just feels already form. It's not right. But again, you are the kicker. You have one job get to the on Saturday kicker. Was not at the. Yeah. He ended up hitting off the crossbar one owner when he came out. Yeah. Yeah. Was that against was going to the Wake Forest? Yeah. And I, I just see him playing with the football. How do you not? How do you not see that? I don't know. I mean, like I said, got one job be out there when it's time to coach special teams or kicking team. I do. I remember I saw he was kicking it into the practice that or whatnot. I was just on the zone and ready to, I guess, did no one say, hey, should be probably get out there. Need to make, he's like, oh, and then probably just all went to his head and you missed it and the whole around, like, where's this guy at? I would be like, all right, let's do our Glennon up. Where did he go? Where is he? Where is he? Yeah, I feel beverage Co. cost. 'cause you can't really cut a kicker. He's bad. I mean, I mean, do you get a guy from the soccer team? I guess. I guess they mostly come from so we can move on from that and the rules and move onto this Monday night football game, get the Steelers and bucks. Playing Vegas has town actually favored by point and a half in this. I'm not surprised. I think Tampa taken it. They're they're hot right now aren't it's a big momentum Fitzpatrick's on very comfortable rhythm, and I see him thrown from four hundred yards. Okay. You're wrong about that because the secondary's about as bad as yet. Yeah, that's why I'm thinking he's gonna have another day, and this might be the last one though. I think this is the game right here where if the Steelers lose, we could say they're bad team. We saw this past week that I mean the locker room fixed everything. They're all on the same page again, minus Levy on bell and all that. We're all ready to go. Now it's time they don't really Bill. He's done. He's never played it down for them again. I don't believe. Yeah, I don't think so. I get traded, but you got if they're not able to get it together here and beat the Tampa Bay Buccaneers I get the bucks started off hot and all bud. They're not bad. They're not a bad team, but it is the Steelers, the Steelers, and yet these expectations going into the season of Super Bowl and all that you should be baiting teams like these, like these ones. Well, how many times seen the team that you win the Super Bowl in the playoffs that happens quite often. Yeah. But like I said, this is they got Ben Rothlisberger the best receiver in the league twenty Brown bends at the end of his career. He still is better than. A lot of quarterbacks. I'd say he still has top ten. Top ten out of thirty two. Okay. Fair enough. Yeah, you might be ten nine eight but I'd say I would not put them in the top five no way. Who's your top five. Definitely Roth is just. Five officers Brady. I honestly, I was gonna put little Grupp low baby at six or seven because a good he was playing for now not anymore. I would definitely say Sam darnold getting up there, not five though, but. Okay. So here we goes Rogers Brady, right, right now, just based off right now, Fitzpatrick. How about how about eight hundred yards in two games. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you want you want the five, just just the five best ability quarterbacks. See, that's tough. 'cause I go Rogers Brady, I think. Rivers, but that's the thing that the next line of people, it's such a take. It's such a, what it's questionable that is, there's only two quarterbacks, I like, okay, those are the two best league. And that's Brady and Rogers, you can't really and then the others are complete guesses almost gear. I mean, I think for me to go Brady Rodgers, rivers rivers, but he's threes. I would say breeze threes. Yeah. And then I guess your choice at Wentz. Wilson Stafford, the guys right there. I would definitely say once so Brady Rodgers went breeze in rivers. I can see that I even rivers is a big question Mark for me just because he's hasn't been playing. Well, let's couple of seasons. He doesn't team granted, but he's still hasn't played his best, but I would. I wouldn't put Stafford up there Wilson maybe. But yet he's on a decline also, but this is not. There's only good quarterbacks Wilson onto the Kleiner's teams stink. No, he's on the client to just see him plays. He's he's not confident at all. So you got the winning this one. You said, I'm torn. My part tells me go with the bucks. My head tells me with the Steelers. I'm gonna go with the Steelers. I'm gonna put my faith in them. I really think I'm wrong about there's something about it. I think I got a pick Steelers, and that's what I'm expecting Antonio Brown to play well. But like I said, if the Steelers are a bad team than the loosest one, and we all start looking at them differently. But so jets got the bucks. I had the Steelers, and I think that's pretty much it for today's show also. So today Jefferson, I recapped the Sunday night football game spent the second and third segments talking about the other Sunday games and then spent this segment talking about the roughing. The passer rules also had a heated conversation. Yeah, I was actually very entertaining and then made our picks for tonight's Monday night football game, Jeff, has the bucks. I have these Steelers, we'll wrap it up here. Thanks for this and into the football podcast. One less note from your yet. Okay. Final score, a three touchdown game book nears win by three touchdowns, three hundred. Then you're expecting these Steelers not score points that I really. A shootout type of the day is one to seven or something like, oh, it's just help that secondary is in how good Fitzpatrick play. I don't think they're going to have an answer for him, so you're thinking, Big, Ben and Browns. Don't get going tonight now. All right. We'll see what you try drama off the field. I'll go Steelers twenty four bucks twenty. So still close game. Yes. So we'll go with that. Like I said, thanks for listening to the GMC football podcast gonna be out tomorrow show to. Yes, I won't. Jeff will be with us. Monday through Thursday on Friday on Friday. GMC fantasy football podcast. Thanks for listening at least for this week. I will be your host Jesse top ya and I will. We will talk to you tomorrow. You've been listening to the Golden State media concepts, football podcast, part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. 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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 685: MLB Battles, Oklahoma is Waiting, and Clemson Loses Big Player

GSMC Sports Podcast

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 685: MLB Battles, Oklahoma is Waiting, and Clemson Loses Big Player

"At this is your alternate staffer. Everything Sports, the golden state media, concepts or podcast. Should I say more from the NFL? MLB The NBA MMA. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast listen. down. Gentleman at twelve them. spoke. At. PODCAST AT ONE, Guy? Jobs. On this. Is. Still now. July. Second. I, know this. Kind of. Logging around, but hey. Look on the bright side real quick. It's June second I live in the southeast and it's only. Let's see it's seventy five degrees right now, it's only seventy five degrees. was that is insanity usually by now? It's like eighty. No, it uses by now. It's like ninety five, and if you step outside, you immediately have to drink water, or you'll be dehydrated. All right look on the bright side. Where was this what I was? Working out doing football conditioning over the summer. Conditioning. It was. It was like. One hundred degrees humidity. Sucked, but it feels great outside. It looks great outside right now and I'm so happy I am right here doing this podcast for you guys right now instead of being outside, but now I'm joking of course I. Love doing this, but. We Have A. Pretty. Good show for you today we'll talk about the MLB battles between the players association and the MLB. There's been some threatening going on. There's a lot of. Uncertainty over the major league baseball season. Then we go to the other side of the coin where the NBA they are now dealing with stuff as trivial. As what playoff format should we do? They are fairly certain. They're coming back Then we'll go onto why the University of Oklahoma is waiting to bring athletes back onto campus, then topic five. We'll talk about Justin Ross. CLEMSON's Justin rose being out for the season, which is very unfortunate for him. We'll discuss that later, and then, of course, our draft review going to my favorite team by that I mean. The lovable losers! The Cleveland Browns Discuss if they're draft, actually help them or not. spoiler probably won't because the Cleveland Browns. Sorry to take shots at the Cleveland. Browns but It's just frustrating. Okay anyways, let's let's get to a pretty. We're GONNA. Start off with a pretty serious. Topic here. We're going to talk about these protests. These the black lives matter protests and the protest about the death of George Floyd. And I'm talking about it because it's kind of impossible to avoid you know. And also. I WanNa talk about it. Because it kind of came at the perfect time because I think, it's a good thing that there's no sports going on right now because. Nobody should be distracted by this issue. That I'm just going to start off with that. Around right now some people just be distracted and people will be complaining that athletes will be speaking out their minds because they should just focus on their sport. Well, because there's no sports, the athletes don't have to focus on training or focus on games or anything, so they can put all their social media clout in their following into good use to. Push this issue further along It is a big issue. In this country! If you don't think so then you just. Are Blind. I don't I don't want to I. Don't want to offend anybody or anything like that, but that's just how it is. We have an issue in this country and we are trying to fix it. I mean. Now, of course. I'm not okay with protests being violent. Of course. But from what I've seen from all the footage I've seen I've seen on social media I've seen footage of. Protesters. Or protesters is your say with air quotes. I've seen people just random people. Just a single person. Would be. Looting and rioting while everybody else is trying to stop them Then you'll see some where. No, it's completely peaceful protests and then. The police would in acts of violence to kind of kick everything off. I've seen some interesting things going on on twitter. The really the only thing I can really tell you just don't a hundred percent believe everything you see, some because there is a lot of misinformation on social media in general, just always take everything with a grain of salt, because in this day of age. We're in the day of misinformation. Where everybody says we're in the age of information. We're but also includes information. We're in the age of missing information. In my opinion, there's a lot of there's a lot of stuff. Going on and a lot of people don't know about, and there's a lot of stuff going on. That is just not right. So. It's. It's just one of those things. That we have to discuss and I think it's great that we don't have sports to distract. Because this is something that needs to happen. It just is we need. We need police reform we need. We need! We need just more out of. White people pretty much and I'm trying not to I'm trying not to bring this into too much. Of A. I'm not trying to bring this into deep of a conversation. Because I know. You're not here for this, you're. You're here for sports and I understand that I. mean you go to sports to distract you from life? You go to sports to argue about meaning stuff because it's meaningless. You'll want to argue about stuff that. Matters one hundred percent of the time, so you WanNa take an hour out of your day and listen to this podcast to argue about stuff that doesn't really matter that much in the grand scheme of things I. Understand that because that's how I am, too. But this is. An issue. that. We have to deal with. And it needs to be dealt with now of course. I WanNa, do it peacefully I think everybody wants to peacefully. I mean that's what most of these protests are. And a couple of bad apples would cause. Chaos. And stuff like that so. That's pretty much all I'm going to say. I also just want to say it's not a political issue. I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to talk about this because it's political. This is not a political issue. This is a civil rights issue pretty much mean. Calling this a political issues like calling the civil rights act in the sixties a political issue. This is not a political issue. If you as political issue, that's a problem. Because this is not a Republican versus Democrat thing if you things are Republican Democrat thing then then. I know exactly what side you're. No offense. Because this is not a political issue. This is a human issue that we must deal with. That's why other countries around the world are also protesting about something that happened in America? Like. Why should Austrailia New Zealand all these? All these other countries that are protesting in their own countries care about what's going on in America. That's because it's a human rights issue. It's not it's not a is not a political issue. It's not a liberal versus conservative issue. This should be an issue that everyone should come together for. This is one of those. Bipartisan issues that you always. Always. Partisan issues. Wait! Sh shoot. Bipartisan partisan. Jeez. anyways you know what I mean. It's one of those issues that. Everyone should be able to come together and figure out a solution and the fact that we can't is an issue in its own and I've seen I've said issue a billion times, and that's mostly because I don't want to say any other words, but. But anyways like I said. We have a good show for you today we're GONNA be talking about MLB battles. We're GONNA be talking about the NBA potentially choosing letting their playoff opponent, leading their top teams choose playoff opponents that that will be discussed. We'll discuss why Oklahoma University is waiting. To let athletes back after the cove in Nineteen We'll talk about the terrible terrible terrible injury. Injury I. Guess It's more of a I. Don't know what it's called. It's just something that he. Apparently was born with and they found out about it. We'll talk about that. Later in the show, of course, we'll talk about the draft review of the Cleveland Browns. So. Sorry Sorry I mean there's only like a seven minute rant because I. did it like a two minute? Okay? Now I'm just kind of stalling until I. RE timeline for this topic, but. Sorry the rest of the show will strictly be about sports I will not bring. This up again. I just thought it was very important that I brought it up. First because more likely more people will listen to the first ten minutes than the rest of the show. I just wanted to bring it first and if you left because of this I, mean you're not listening right now, so oh, well, but. It's an important. It's important issue and we need to deal with it, and we need to come together and deal with it so that that's my viewpoint on it We'll talk about sports and stuff. That doesn't really matter. And will argue about stuff that doesn't really matter. When we come back from the break, we'll talk about Emma battles heating up as player pay. On about player pay, and how many games I'll play when we come back. Are you looking for the very best NFL and college football podcast, then check out the GSM see football podcast. Get the latest football news, both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They've got you covered. That's GMC PODCAST DOT, com, backslash footfall dash podcast, get updates, college, rivalries, key insights, and much much more. It's football. Talk the way you want it. This show and sleeps briefs football don't forget to like on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes, M. C. podcast dot com for more INFO. Major League. Baseball is having a huge issue going on right now with With the player pay We've discussed it before. these players they don't. They want to be paid in full full prorated rate because they know we're not gonNA play a full one hundred six two game season, but they want to be paid in full. prorated rate for how many games they play now. The issue is how many games should they play? There have been negotiations. There have been proposals, counterproposals and stuff like that. The owners originally wanted to play eighty one games, which is half of a half of a major league baseball season, but they weren't gonNA. Pay players the their full pro rated salaries. The players said Hey. How about you pay US appropriate salaries and then apparently the owners? Did Not like that and they want to they want to. The owners came back and said we pay you a prorated salary. Bulla play games so now the players are saying we should play more games and stuff like that so. There's proposal. No further negotiations is scheduled, and the clock is ticking for Major League Baseball. While the MLB is considering playing fifty odd games in two thousand twenty, unless the players agree to further reduce their pay, it is not yet planning to present such an idea. The Players Association according to sources with knowledge of the it'll be thinking so leaks. Stance was first reported by on Monday evening roughly twenty four hours after the union made a proposal for one hundred fourteen game season two league in. In a digital meeting, so the message from the League is clear, and some on the players side interpreted as a threat. You want the rated salaries. We agreed upon in March. You'll get them, but only for the number games we want to play so others on the players side however believed the league's willingness to pay the full pro rated salaries for even a limited number of games crazy potential to negotiate. So in a meeting with the Union Sunday the League mentioning. Mentioned playing as few as forty games and twenty twenty, which would be absurd in baseball terms, but but as of late Monday night we'll be communicated. Is Intentions directly to the Players Association and did not plan to make a counter-proposal. This is all part of the League's attempts to negotiate through the media instead of focusing on how to bring baseball back to his fans. Says moby executive director. Tony Clark in a prepared statement. However from the League's perspective, the chances of the Union declining to play out of concern for health and safety seems growing smaller. The Union offered comments on the League's proposal. Original original sixty seven page proposal and league mostly signed off on them once or said still to be negotiated the ability of players both high risk, and not to opt out of the season entirely, so the MLB stance indicates a reading. That it might be in position to unilaterally implement a schedule. If these sides ultimately do not reach a new deal, the commissioner proceeds to schedule Fifty Sixty Games, the union could object citing a pass from the March agreement that requires the Commissioner's Office to use best efforts to play as many games as possible, so the sides might not agree on constitutes a best effort in no small part, because they differ on what the sports economics will look like in twenty, twenty with the gates closed for most of the season, if not all. So the League says it would lose money forever. Regular season game played. The union remained sceptical continues. To await additional documents that could prove financial position and believe the players warrant their full pro-rated salaries in part because of the health risks associated with playing during this pandemic. Meanwhile, the unions offer to defer one hundred million dollars in salaries with interest. If the postseason is canceled, failed to make an impact with. League officials who say their teams do not want to pay the proposed interest on deferrals and take on additional debt. The League also believes that union leaders in conversations with players and agents misrepresented the meaning of a key phrase in that March agreement in a section dedicated to restarting play. The agreement requires the parties. to discuss in good faith, the economic feasibility of playing without fans, which prompted the question which side determines what is feasible. which is always an issue of course, ultimately, the League believes the phrase simply conveys that if fans cannot go to games, a new deal is to be discussed another part of the agreement dedicated player compensation gives players a salary based on how many Games are actually played? We have agreement on compensation that says clearly how players get paid in the event. Games are played prorate. Clark said in a statement Monday. In fact, the League recently confirmed in writing that we agree with the association that under the agreement players are not required to accept less than their full pro rated salary so unsurprisingly the meeting between the sides. Sunday grew heated. Said Clark Commissioner Rob Manfred went on video. Call along with top lawyers on both sides at the heart of the dispute were comments. Clark previously had made to Manfred, apparently, acknowledging the expectation of negotiation. We have never denied the MLB. The has the ability to come back and try to persuade us to change that agreement based on their economic concerns. Clark said they've tried unsuccessfully. In fact, rob confirmed yesterday that we could pay you one hundred percent of salary right now, so the sides are also. Bickering. About the reason the Union won't entertain a new rate of pay is because the march agreement says the players don't have to orse because they simply don't want to the league. Things that players have reversed from the former to the latter. The union however maintains its. The players prerogative to continue reject a second pay cut and assist upon receiving full pro-rated salaries from ten thousand feet. Both sides appear to be exercising basic powers. They seem to gain in their infamous march agreement. The leaks is saying you can't stop us from starting to season. The players are saying you can't make us take less pay so for competitive reasons, the League would still prefer. It's to last longer than fifty odd games, but believe fans would be happy to see baseball return in any form so for now the players are asking. Asking play roughly double. The number of Games League is contemplating, but they players have clear financial incentive to ask for as many games as possible based on their pro rated arrangement in the march agreement. The deadline for an agreement depends on how long this season would be. If were the Games along with the parties could argue for an eighty two game season beginning in early July as league proposed a week ago, players would need to be in spring training part to by the middle of June just a couple of weeks from now. So the exact rob dead. I don't know, but it has to be within. A week or so, one person with knowledge of the discussion said of the eighty two game schedule. So some people on both sides believe there's room to hammer out a deal that includes changes beyond this year by including protections for free agency, this winter, or even a minimum payroll commitment for two thousand, twenty one, but negotiating such elements would prolong the process, and neither side is moving expeditiously. Making that approach unlikely so long term, these negotiations might serve to galvanize everyone players. An agents would view a fit game proposal. As the. Latest in a series of aggressive acts by the will be including the tier pay cuts that Pique their anger. Last week the proceedings could eventually color next year's negotiations of the entire collective bargaining agreement, so if everything falls apart the recourse, either side, and possibly for both. would be to follow grievance, but a hearing in front of an arbitrator would be destructive and time consuming process that likely would lead to cancellation of the twenty twenty season such an outcome still seems very unlikely, so nonetheless the parties are making very little progress and continue to advance ideas that quickly dismissed by the other side. A season can still be savage, but the tensions are only growing so I think it's terrible that the. I think it's terrible that. The MLB, the owners and and Manfred are basically. Threatening the players with a much shorter season than expected I mean the players. It's very clear that the players WanNa play. Baseball is very clear that they wanNA. Play Baseball and they WANNA play as many games as possible. It's very clear. Can't deny that that's true, but the owners don't want to pay them. For What The owners don't want to pay them. For what they're doing The owners don't want to. Pay Them Full. For playing as many games they want because they're going to get paid a pro-rata salary tomorrow. What they got they got them merge agreement and they're probably not going to go back on that, so they're going to get paid. Their full pro rated salaries, no matter what happens. In the rest of the negotiations, it's just the matter of what how many games they play. They play fifty games that much less money and the players are really worried about their health. We discuss this on Sunday. They don't really know we don't really know what the corona virus does long-term, so if a player gets corona virus, we don't know what happens to them. In the long term, so we just have to wait and see would just very scary for a lot of players, because I mean, it damages your lungs apparently and as an athlete. You kind of need those so. So yeah we are. In that situation right now in the owners are kind of being. A Brash baseball struggling right now. To figure out in issue the solution to this issue, but when we come back, we'll talk about a league that has figured out there. Pay issue mostly because they only have playoff games left, but they need to figure out their playoff format. We'll discuss that when we come back. Check out the show that's built on the M. A from UFC extreme cage biting. They got the fights covered. Check out the GSM. See MMA podcast. Get the latest news on past or upcoming fights. Join us as we talked to. In about some of the biggest names in the m e past present future. When it's the fight game, there's just one show to check out GSM see podcast, dot com slash E. Dash podcast. Don't forget to leg on facebook and follow them on twitter. Visit GMC podcast. Dot Com for more INFO. The has pretty much figured out what they're gonNA. Do for the playoffs. There? Still some minor details need to be worked out well for the most part. They have figured it out. They figured out what they're going to do and how they're going to do it's. Basically. They're going to be in Disney world. We're just trying to figure out what resort specific at Disney world resort they're going to say. We're also to figure out. We gotTA figure out. How many teams getting by. We're going to figure out what the playoff formats going to be. There have been different. They're different different things. Suggested invited every team. Some people invite only the teams that have a chance to the playoffs like playoff teams in the bubble teams, and then just kind of play and see if the bowl teams get in I've seen a lot of people say. They WanNa do that just to have Zion there and get more is on. On that. which I don't think that's necessary, because it's going to be the NBA playoffs, you don't really needs I on. When this the NBA playoffs I feel like, but you know whatever, but the playoff format is one one anymore discussed issues of the. Of the NBA. Coming back because. Are they going to do regular playoff format? ARE THEY GONNA do? I've seen receding of everyone. And then I saw this interesting article about. Should players. Should get to choose. Their. This has been a thing for a while. There's been a proposal for a while. People want these teams to choose Their opponents. For the play offs higher seeds to their opponents for the playoffs which I think we probably discussed this before probably back in like February I think, but. anyways, the unusual circumstances brought on by the covid nineteen, th graded unusual situation for the NBA that presents an exciting opportunity for experimentation. There's already been intriguing reporting and speculation about how the league could return, could both return and terminate champion with some indication that Commissioner Adam silver is over to an uncommon resolution as extremely encouraging, because they're a variety of priorities to manage, but also worthwhile. Worthwhile proposals to best accomplish their goals for concluding the twenty nine hundred twenty twenty campaign, having this many into intelligent and focused people, coming up with ideas will inevitably produce viable and exciting plans, but there's a specific nuance that works with many of them that would be an important edition for both this season and the long term so over a decade ago, the NBA Developmental League. Then called the D. League allow top teams to pick your poison power to choose their own opponent. This the people that ideas, the combination of a stronger reward for the regular season success reduced incentives for losing late Season Games. This set a far more favourable matchup and arguably greater equity, because then lower fees may not get the otherwise random benefit of an unhealthy, or if your opponent for example. Example. The Twenty fifteen twenty sixteen grizzlies made the playoffs despite losing both Mike Conley and Marcus all for the season, but the second seeded spurs face them. Since the grizzlies finished one game ahead of the rockets for the seven seat, there is a blatant short-term tanking last season as well which led to three of the four best teams in the Western Conference on the same side of the. And a Western Conference finals sweep. While it was, it would be a worthy addition to the NBA playoffs. In every postseason top teams, choosing their opponents is far more important in twenty twenty do dini unusual circumstances typically disappear seed gets homecourt advantage, and the benefits that come from that in terms of home game, seven more games in front of their own fans and more nights sleeping in their own beds. So No porks exist in this bubble system and the hiatus ads, and even more variability in terms of health, conditioning and injury. It is certainly fair to note that these circumstances are extremely unusual, and we'll always create winners and losers, but rewarding the best regular season teams certainly feels like the best way to address this. So you look at the upside, the beauty of leading top seeds pick their opponents. It is that meshes with the different places including the top sixteen format or the World Cup concept, Kevin O'Connor broke down on Tuesday. So whenever the time for a bracket arises, the top half in bottom half of playing teams are split and starting with the best record. Each team picks their preferred opponent from the bottom half. Until everyone is selected, it could even be done in a televised event. Someone like the march madness bracket reveals show especially this year since they will all be in the same place, so that process can repeat for each of the playoffs before the finals either NBA or conference, depending on which format they use so creating a larger advantage for the. Regular season record. Better the team with the better regular season record, so if adopted for longer than the twenty twenty playoffs, the ability to choose opponents, and even just avoiding being chosen by being in the Tom Pap would push franchises more than they are now. They would not be able to finesse their match up by losing late season games, for example now the downside to this so there are two major issues with leading the best team. Choose their opponents one logistical in one practical. The logistical issue is at the pick. Your poison process requires each round to complete before the next one starts, so the choosing teams actually know what their options are in grades, lulls in the playoff schedule. At times. The NBA's allowed to get ahead when some series finished more quickly, but the late series are always said in stone so is. Is Not that big of a shift that makes less of a difference. This time around every team will be playing in the same bubble, and they're no travel considerations. This should not be dealbreaker in a normal year, but is even less of a problem in two thousand twenty. Specifically, additionally, it would be very hard for a team at the bottom to make a run, because the bracket would be consistently work against them. However overperforming squad, early rounds could potentially scare off top teams as more favorable opposition in the future rounds to another fun quirk of the system. The. Other major concern is a more practical one. Would the decision makers actually choose aggressively? This system allows actress absolutely produces additional drama and bulletin board material, no matter how the selections go, but the whole thing becomes significantly less interesting if teams play it safe rather than. Cheerleader, inner macho belly instill at least they have the opportunity, so here's a full proposal. In years with a full slate, the League can absolutely stick with the conference centric format for travel television timing reasons, but those concerns are totally different this time around so do that. And the abruptly stopped regular season. This approach would be similar to the group stage idea. The World Cup idea. With some stronger benefits for strong records, so the twenty best records would be eligible and split up into four groups. By record like this like in this proposal originally. Toyed. With the idea of tweaking, the group selection, or to further reward top teams, but another wrinkle does the trick while either eight or sixteen teams from the group stage advanced to the knockout stage. With the top half of the total number of teams, going to the knockouts are both automatically through and will choose their first round knockout opponents in order of the regular season finish after all would be unfair for the bucks Laker Raptors and clippers to not make far, plus they will need to. They will need tuneup games and get the to influence who qualifies knockouts rather than sitting home in a by situation also allows every team to get into the knockout round on merit without any single elimination randomness. In fact, they could even let everyone play their group opponent twice for an eight sample closer to the group stage format of the U. E.. F. A Champions League. From their the top half pig out of the bottom half all the way until the NBA, finals, so either two or three rounds depending on whether it's an eight or sixteen team field while this NBA, season phases, unusual and hopeful, and hopefully never repeated obstacles this hiatus and restart. Provides a unique opportunity to assess an experiment with new ideas that will improve the league. There are series of playoff on sports, considering, but allowing top teams choose their opponents would be a key new wrinkle added this postseason because it gives the teams a stronger reward. Regular season creates drama incentivizes competitiveness in future seasons, so here's my opinion on this so It's a fine enough idea. Right off the bat. It's a fine. It's fine. It's a fine idea. I don't necessarily I'm not necessarily against it I. Just don't think it will add that much to it. Because at the end of the day, these teams are just going to choose the worst team available I guess like for instance he mentioned the grizzlies getting the seven seed back when Mike Conley and Ghazal. We're all hurt The issue of that is that the number one he will choose them. Okay like. The number, one team would choose them number. Two team will choose whether was and I. Mean. We're pretty much back where we are And it makes it less likely for underdogs to kind of get in. The NBA, so the eight seed in the one seed shouldn't be that far apart, but they are i. mean the Lakers and and I think the grizzlies the if the Lakers play the grizzlies right now, it would probably be a four-game sweep. That's just how it is I mean they're better, but. I'm not. I'm not sure how much it would actually help. and. That's my main issue. I don't want to change it to see how much would actually. Help you know so. That's just my opinion I. Don't know how much will actually help. I don't know how much would actually benefit. The better team. Don't know if it will benefit the borders teams at all, but there you have it when we come back. We'll discuss why Oklahoma University University Oklahoma whatever is waiting longer than its appears to bring athletes back when we come back. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team checkout? The GSM see fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice on how to start who to sit, even who you should draft from sleeper picks red hot lineups. They got it all covered for you. That's GMC PODCAST DOT COM backslash fantasy dash football dash podcast. We'll cover traditional leagues dynasty. Few PR even I think. When you need fantasy help, there's just one show to hit up. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter. Visit S PODCAST DOT COM for more INFO. So it is officially June, it's do second right now. a lot of universities and colleges and athletic programs are getting back to work right now. They a lot of them came back yesterday June I a lot of them coming back June eighth next Monday and It's kind of happening. Where college athletics are starting to come back as college propose specifically is starting to come back. And by that I mean. They're bring athletes back on campus. We still not sure if. Football season will happen, but it is looking more and more likely than football. Season will happen in a lot of. Universities and campuses are opening back up. They start opening back up yesterday. Their opening backup for these athletes to finally. Start working out surgeon, offseason programs and saw and stuff such as that and. I can't explain to you how happy I am about that. Just because it's a good sign, it's a positive sign is optimistic. Sign of what's to come, but one major football program is still waiting. They're waiting longer than their peers to bring athletics back not as Oklahoma the Oklahoma sooners. So the Oklahoma Athletic. Director Joe Casting Leone. I think that's how you say his name. New Win is athletic. Department announced it would reopen is facilities to football players beginning July first the sooners would get some criticism after all. The big twelve presidents voted to allow players to return to campus for voluntary workouts fifteenth, if school administrators chose to bring them back, so why would Oklahoma, which has won the big twelve football title each of the last four seasons, and made the college football of each of the past three seasons, wait and wait and allow competitors in its conference to to week head start, and what about the programs and other leagues that plan to start three weeks earlier because casting on said that Oklahoma administrators already had targeted age ally I return, and they didn't feel like the extra two or three weeks provide much of advantage so the key distinction according to casting loan. Is that the only workouts currently allowed or voluntary in normal June? Teams will be allowed to require eight hours of organized team activities per week. So this includes time in the weight room, running on the field and a maximum of two hours of football instruction, but with that activity currently suspended by the Sea of lay because of Kobe. Nineteen workout would be more limited strength coaches can designs them just as they have. While players have been away, these coaches can supervisors workouts for safety. Safety Purposes, but to casting alone at other Oklahoma leaders. Being able to do that wasn't as important as having more time to put cove nineteen testing protocols in place before players return. He mentioned that I. Think People are getting that confused and thinking of it as a competitive disadvantage. That's not what is being allowed. During the month of June. It's only voluntary, so it's almost like the kind of workout. Somebody would get during the Times. They are not permitted to be organizing workouts. So Gasoline Leon who? Served on numerous committees, working groups suspects the rules could change again in July, the general consensus among athletic directors, coaches and medical personnel that teams need to be back in the weight room by mid-july players to have enough time to be physically ready to play the twenty twenty season as currently scheduled now when we get back. Now when we get back on July first, he said we could very well see the rule change again where we would be permitted to have a normal summer workout that people are used to seeing so Oklahoma's plan dovetails with the sentiment of sooners coach. Lincoln Riley who said last month that he would prefer programs. Wait longer before bringing back to campus every day early that we bring them. In is a day. We could have gotten better. Riley told reporters. It's a day we could have learned more about the virus. It's a day. That personal protective equipment may be gets better. It's a day closer to a vaccine. It's a day that are testing equipment and testing capabilities. Get better, and it's just not worth it, so we've got to be patient. We've got one shot at this and we've got to do right so casio alone said Holmes is asking. All athletes take part in virtual quarantine for two weeks before returning to campus, athletes will be asked to try to limit their movements during that time. If they do need to travel, then they'll. They'll be asked to keep track of where they've been and with whom they've come in contact. Contact when they returned to campus. If you days before the facility opens, they'll get tested for Kobe nineteen, the school already has set aside one residential facility to use in case, anyone test positive and needs to be quarantined so several common areas such as the players lounge adjacent to the locker room will be closed, so meanwhile players will work out in smaller groups than Usual Oklahoma's football weight room has large doors that can be opened to allow in fresh air, and with the thirty two thousand five hundred square feet space equipment can be arranged to allow a safe distance between players and strength coaches. So as these Oklahoma, players return gasoline and four other big twelve athletic directors will be working to answer some pressing questions about the upcoming football season that working group has been impaneled to model potential outcomes, so it is I trying to determine some key dates for example. At what point do schools need to make a final decision if they like to make a full play a full season schedule? I personally would like it'd be early. July, gasoline on said. But I. Don't find much consensus on that date. I think people are thinking. They can wait until maybe mid July to make this kind of decisions, but some might think later, but there's a lot planning that has to take place once. Those decisions are made. So the AD group also will consider what will go into that planning. Those discussions would include protocols for what will happen if one or more players Tepe test positive. For Kobe nineteen during the season, there's enormous rabbit hole right there. He said so. He and his fellow ADP's will spend the next month. Plumbing, the depths of that and several other rabbit holes in an attempt to come up with the best way to play a season under extraordinary circumstances so I'm on his side. I A big Fan. Of. These teams, coming back, and showing optimism and kind of getting on track to see, but the fact of the matter is we do need wait a little longer I agree with Lincoln Riley. We might need weight every day that we are rushing. It is another day that we could have improved everything you know. And once again it's just voluntary workout, so it's not like. Voluntary I should say with quotation marks because I'm I'm sure some of these teams are. Making that voluntary. Involuntary but. Yeah I mean. It's just. Hot Man it's just an interesting thing that we need to deal with that. I mean Oklahoma I. Think they're doing the right thing here. They're waiting. They're waiting to see if they can improve anything. Before? Before they make A. Before they make a permanent decision that affects all their athletes on campus so I agree with Oklahoma I. DO agree with them. I hate that. This is Kinda taking a step back to this progress that we're making, but it's Kinda necessary once again. We don't know the long term effects of this. Virus, so we got to keep everyone safe. Yes, they're young and they're. They're fit and stuff like that. They have the best chance of surviving, but the issue is. If they do survive. What is the long-term? What is the long-term damage that they got because they survived? You know so. It's just it's just stuff that you think about and people don't WanNa. Think about this stuff because they want to have football back. So badly. And look I understand. I want football back as badly as everybody else does however. We need to make sure that everyone. Is Okay. You make sure everything is okay for that. So I agree with Oklahoma I don't know if you guys agree if you agree. Let me know if you agree with Lincoln Riley agree with and. Let me, know I am taking their side on this one because I think it is the smart thing due to wait, he's got to wait and see how everything turns out. So I agree with them. There are so many different things like testing testing practices. There could be better equipment going out. There could be better methods to working out in a wait and see see what other programs are doing, and then you can, you can build off of one of the programs are doing because I'm sure all these programs are working together to make sure that. All these athletes are safe and stuff like that early, so I'm hoping they're working together I. Feel like it would be against everyone's best wishes that they weren't helping together, but. That's just me so I think this is a great thing. So. Yeah, things great. Great Oklahoma being on a I'm kind of surprised. Oklahoma's the team that's. Leading this, but you know good for them. When we come back, we're talking about. Going to talk about Clemson's wide receiver, Justin, Ross, he has been announced to be out for the football the twenty twenty season. Whether we have it or not, so we'll discuss that when we return. 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He was a major part of their twenty eight National Championship Game Against Alabama that he was being part of that national run. That playoff run in general he was. He was the leading receiver. Or the second leading receiver behind he higgins last year this past season and now. He has been announced out for the twenty twenty season. Would you huge blow to Clemson? As Now? They're leading their lead now. The leading returning receiver is now travesty T in and eighteen only has like three hundred yards or something like that so. Wide Receiver. You takes a big hit right here now of course. Clemson they have plenty of other receivers that could step up, but Justin Ross was ready made. He was already ready for the NFL was. A freshman is a freak. I'm just telling you. He needed work on technique a little bit more, but he was a freak when he was a freshman. And you saw it in the in the national that Twenty Eight Thousand National Championship game. He was making one hand catches. He was making insane catches all over the place. He's Alabama native, but. But he is not expected. To, he is not going to play football in twenty twenty, so the junior has been diagnosed with congenial fusion of the spine, which might to too dangerous for him to continue playing the Alabama native impossible for future first round draft pick is scheduled to travel Thursday to Pittsburgh for a surgery. Friday that Clemson hopes will help him eventually return to the field the further. He went into his football career. It probably would have shown up, but nobody until this point knew he had that said Clemson. clemson coach Dabo Sweeney on a zoom call with reporters. He's had no issues in his whole career, so justin is a great place mentally coach. Weenie says he's ready to do what he needs to do to give himself best chance play football again so during a routine clemson spring practice in March Ross ran a slant round and caught a pass, but he was slow to get up after he's hit. He experienced initial numbness thought it was nothing. Clemson found to to concerning at the time. So, the staff started monitoring for Stinger symptoms around. March eleventh so Ross went to the sideline remained a spectator for rest of the practice. Later he underwent an X. Ray clemson's regular procedure when a player is expected to have suffered a singer that evening sweeney saw him at dinner was encouraged by how normal his receiver peer to look the next morning. However, Clemson trainer, Danny Pool and team physician Dr, Steven Martin. Met Sweeney Office informed him that they had found something unexpected. Sweeney's goes on to say Dr Martin was pretty shocked at what he saw when he looked at his back in his spine into concern, and he was a little bit of a bulging disc as well, and that's an issue if he was a football coach, an accountant, or whatever he'd be back at it and probably six weeks, but he's a football player, so there's obviously a lot more involved here when it comes for him to be able to play the game. The game he loves the frustrating thing for justice. He feels perfectly fine with the doctors know that he is at risk so neurosurgeon. David oaken quo. Golly professor of neurological surgery at the University of Pittsburgh any doctor for the Pittsburgh. As already met with Ross once he. He and his hopeful Fridays. Procedure were pair the bulging disc and is optimistic that there is a path play again. Sweeney said, but there are no guarantees. So how could the twenty year old Ross have a condition like this for two decades and never know about it. Doctor Annan who is not treating Ross, but as director spine trauma at cedars-sinai Spine, center in Los Angeles pointed to a lack of symptoms. You don't have any symptoms. Why would you take an x Ray? Why would you ever check your neck if you don't get pain unless you get a symptom or there's something that. That tells you something is wrong. Why would you Ross is expected to remain involved with the program in twenty twenty, and when he praises positively, Ross Will Mainly Act as another coaching figure for his fellow receivers, but without Ross Tigers in quarterback Trevor Lawrence will look to Sophomore Joe Nagata and Frank Gladsden as the primary outside threats so raw, six, four, two hundred five pounds was projected to become consorting boundary receiver, replacing around draft pick T, Higgins Ross caught six passes for eight hundred sixty five yards and eight touchdowns in twenty, nineteen as the film receiver. A senior Amari Rogers were mainly starting slot receiver. But Sweeney is hopeful, but by January Ross we'll be in a position to work out at the NFL. Combine and enter the NFL draft or to return to Clemson for another year. Dan Burglar who covers the NFL draft, or the athletic, said Ross's NFL. Hopes are unknown until health conditions resolve, but that the Clinton receiver has first round talent, his athleticism catch radius really popped on film, even with the other receiver talent on the roster. It was nothing it was going to be Lawrence raw show for the club offense twenty twenty. You hate this for him. Even if we have seen him play his last football at Clemson. Ross has all the Taliban bag receiver in the Perot. So this is a huge hit. To the Clinton receiving core, he is a NFL made receiver. He was easily going to be a first round. Pick at receiver. He could easily been a first round pick for receiver. And? There's a huge hit now. CLEMSON has to rely on Clemson who has always had depth at wide receiver. They have to rely on soft Moore's frank lives in and chosen. We gotta which by the way. Those guys are both. FREAKS as well they're both. Your next freaks says well. You probably would have heard more of them, but they were sitting behind t higgins and Justin Ross. So? They played a little bit last year as freshmen. They played a little bit. I. Mean nothing really popped out because. I mean I. Don't know, but Clinton has a rotating. Clemson does a very weird. Thing with the receivers and I don't think any other. University really does any other team. Does they rotate their receivers as much as possible? They rotate them pretty much every play depending on the situations. Just, the timing of this is really bad because they just L-. Lost a bunch of receivers to graduation and stuff like that. They, had de'andre, Overton, who is going to be could be Could have been a great. Replacement for Justin Ross I mean he wouldn't have been as good adjusting Ross, but he would have been a great replacement at least be. Decent. But. Frank Lanston and Joseph Maganga this kind of a kind of A. They're kind of unknown, but they're both really really. athletically gifted and they've been with the program since last winter. They've been with him for a full year now at this point. But! The fact that We don't have we might not have a fault camp or we might not have a huge fall camp. That's going to hurt Clemson even more because they won't have time to put them in game situations as the top outside receivers so another another reason why Clemson has incentive to try to get back into. Onto campus as fast as possible because they're going to have to figure things out. And we're all GONNA figurative it. Trevor Lawrence is the real deal because he's. He's been blessed with t higgins and Justin Rawson in rent, and all these great receivers now he has to deal with I mean Amari. Rogers is still great receiver at the slot, but he's just gonNA play slot. Now now we're GONNA see how he does with. Once again frank and Josie gotta are very athletically gifted, but we don't know how good they are. So I I'm not gonNA. Put them in the League of t higgins, and John Ross so. We're GONNA. See Trevor Lawrence does with that I mean this is a this was supposed to be. Make or break year I. mean you still have Travis et and you could see Clemson? Go more into a running attack with travis eat in coming back But we'll see of course my my favorite thing to say we'll see how that turns out. But. This is a huge blow. This is a huge blow to their offense, but I don't think it's that I don't think it's the worst thing in the world. Now we get to sit here and wonder if he's going to come back to Clemson, personally don't think he will because. If, he is healthy enough and a team takes a chance on him, and he gets a first look. If he's healthy enough and is able to get drafted. He should go get drafted especially if. Because of this issue, go get paid my man. That's pretty much all I got to say. Just go get paid especially if you have. If you have that issue there? You just go ahead and go get paid like. Don't care what anybody else says. Just go get paid. Hopefully. He finishes up his degree close. Players usually finish the degrees before. Three years, so which is crazy, but I mean he. You'll have more time to worry about. Worry about that so. It's GONNA be Weird. It's going it's going to be. Tough for Clemson to figure that out, but probably the good thing is, they probably won't play in front of fans. So, these sophomores won't get rattled by any. Away environments such as Florida state or anything like that. But this will be a big big issue that this Clinton offense will have to figure out, but the thing about Clemson, is they? They, don't rebuild. They reload and. We'll see how that turns out for them this time. So when we come back, we'll be talking about the draft review for the Cleveland Browns. We'll be discussing how their draft went, and if they will actually do anything with it, so we'll discuss that when we return. Shortly. Build around the women. From the UFC INVICTA. delatour. Championship regatta fights cover. It's the golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast, the latest news of coming fights discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game, you know where to listen to the golden state media concepts women's May podcast. Alright Lis Dome and here we are. We are in the Cleveland browns. Part of our draft review so the dust has settled of course and the Cleveland Browns. They had a very disappointing year last year after they were poised to make a big role. they still have Jarvis Landry. They still have. Odell Beckham Junior. They still have. Nick Shaab they still have. Baker Mayfield, but Baker Mayfield heading into his third year as an NFL quarterback, he had a sophomore slump of course he also had freshman slump, but whenever he had a huge sophomore slump, and we're here to see if he is the real deal or not, but the browns they had. Let's see one two, three, four, five six seven picks in this draft. A lot of outlets have said that they did a pretty good draft. We'll see about that. Let's start it out? They need an offensive line helping. They got it right away. They drafted with their number one pick. Number of round one pick pig number ten JJ edrich wills off as a tackle from Alabama, so the browns eating offense tackle, and had the choice between wills or Louisville's Mekki Becton there was some question about becton before the draft of a report of a failed drug test team with the safer route, but still managed to bring in starting caliber tackle so during his sophomore season, he snagged. The starting right tackle position at the start of the two thousand eighteen season he finished the season starting fifteen games at the position, which lead the number three scoring offense in the nation wills broke into the picture as the best offense Lineman, the nation as a junior, his reward for a season included the following a second team all American from the AFC Associated Press Sporting News Walter camp third team all American tackle by pro focus, pro football focus all as you see team first team, second team preseason, all American so wills allowed just one sack, all season and three, and a half of quarterback hurries seven hundred seventy. Seventy one snaps process rate of ninety nine percent ranking third in the nation. He helped anchor the offensive line that allowed just point nine two sacks per game, so the ties ground game was efficient on the ground, finishing about five and a half yards per carry in the end. The browns would have likely wanted Georgia's Andrew Thomas however. Thomas was off the board and number ten number four, so the New York giants hand selected him. He might have fall into the browns. Instead the browns drafted the next best tackle, and they would be rewarded with a high draft grade. They're so grant. Del Pit is their next pick. Safety. It's another solid player those room it'd be gone way before the browns pick a number forty four Delgada size athleticism and can make plays who's the winner of the Twenty Nine Thousand Jim Thorpe Award which is awarded to the best back in the country. In twenty. Nineteen debit finish with sixty five combined tackles seven passes defended into interceptions, believe it or not, it was a down year compared to two thousand eighteen where he had seventy five combat combined tackles five sacks. Five interceptions end nine passes defended personally. This is great pick by the browns because they'll put the eighteen the draft obviously Xavier mckinney from Alabama was going to be gone, and he was with the number thirty six overall pick by the giants, however the new new, England Patriots only thirty seven overall pick in elected us pig on division to safeties Tile Duggar cal, Duggar, then the Chicago bears picked right before the Brown's number forty three were rumored to be interested in taking safety instead that they went with Notre Dame tied in coal commit. Debit was once considered a first round talent, and practically fell to the browns. Every team needs a bit of luck. When wanting to contend in professional sports at the browns might have finally gotten lucky with this with this pick Jordan. Elliott Defense Lineman at this point probably asking yourself. How can the browns have three straight A.'S ON THE REPORT CARD? The question is that team deserves it. So Elliott was ranked sixth highest defensive tackle in the draft with the browns were ready to pick a number eighty eight five tackles were picked in front of him. Including Oklahoma's Neville, Gallimore coups ranked number seven overall, the Brown selected the best available option at the position now there might be some bias for this pay because Elliott. People had Elliott go into the browns in the third round in their mock drafts, but Elliott six foot, four three hundred fifteen pound redshirt junior that play defense alignment for Missouri. A former, all American Elliott transfer from the university Texas after his freshman year after sitting the two thousand seventeen season, due to transfer rules Elliott was named the team's Defensive Scout Player of the year. In two thousand eighteen. Elliott quickly became an impact player. It was named second team all SEC by the media, his stats included twenty four tackles eight tackles for loss and three sacks last season. Elliott finished with thirty. One tackles eight and a half tackles for loss and two and a half sacks, so the pro football focus ranked in the highest defender on the team squad. So according to some analysts, Elliott was rated as high as number forty to forty second. Prospect in the entire draft as far as INFO dot coms, Sirloin sees Elliott could be a star League as soon as next season. So in terms of value, the browns might have had the best third round selection out of any team. They're not their next pig was Jay Phillips linebacker. Linebacker of she was a member of a style defense, but in terms of was better pick. The Brown's got this one wrong. In my opinion, the browns have the choice between philps Colorado's debut and Taylor who went to the Philadelphia Eagles six picked later in Taylor's career, he recorded one hundred, thirty, six tackles twenty tackles for loss in twelve tackles for gain. His stats also include thirty, twenty, three third down stops, twelve quarterback pressures, nine pass breakups and three fumble recoveries. As for Phillips, he led the Tigers in the SEC and tackles twenty nineteen. He finished his career with twenty. Two hundred eighteen career tackles three. Thirteen and a half tackles for loss, two sacks, and an interception what separates filled from other linebackers in the group is allies the ability to play in coverage Phillips has a lot of talent. There's no denying that you don't lead the SEC and tackles if you aren't good at what you do, however there are some concerns of how he will fit in under the new defensive coordinator. Joe would scheme if he can do that. This grade could be completely change by next season. Next biggest Harrison Bryant tight end Bryant one the John mackey Warford nations, top tight end in two thousand nineteen, but stats came against opponents from non power. Five Conferences Bryant led all division. One two tight ends with sixty five receptions for thousand four yards and seven touchdowns. He was named first team all conference USA as well as a first team all American. American, becoming the first ever Fau player to accomplish that feat in his career Bryant visit one hundred forty eight receptions for two thousand, one, hundred, thirty seven yards and sixteen touchdowns at Fau. Bryant was the team's first choice as a receiving threat when fau played nationally ranked Ohio State and UCF Bryant led the team in receiving seventy two in fifty one yards respectively. According to Walter Football dot. COM Bryant was the number ten rank tied in on the board is a huge hit on his ability to play at the next level. The browns have plenty of receiving threats on the team already in Odell Beckham Junior Jarvis Landry, Austin Hooper and a healthy David. Joke who? Is playing in the final year is working contracts with the team could be looking towards the future. The team should have drafted a true blocking tight end, and that was still on the Board Mazda and attend the NFL combined, which likely her stock, but has the combination of quickness and athleticism that could be used as a blocker. The good news is that Brian is at least one season to improve because he is the third option on the depth chart behind hooper and jokue for now I think they were better options on board. So mackerras the next one. He's a center. Browns India Center. So why did the team essentially waste their fifth round? Pick on one. Lost the browns nine Jadeveon Clowney in the near future pick doesn't really make sense. The resigned say that is the browns have been linked to having interest and bring edge rushers. When the browns were selecting Boise State's Curtis Weaver was still on the board we beat off into tackles in numerous ways and had a great career at Boise State. In three seasons. You finished with Sackville's of eleven nine and a half at thirteen half also included a tackle for loss, count thirteen, fifteen and nineteen and a half of the course of three years. But as of today, the browns remain uncommitted cloudy, so there's a chance that team could Miss Allen to productive pass rushers so for Harris. He could have been better suited with another team. He was a first team all PAC twelve selection last season as well as an AP second team all American. Harris is a bad player. By any means, the browns could have found premium value to shore up a whole on the defense, and that team pass to take a player for a position that they didn't need currently. And then their last pick of the draft on people's Jones wide receiver. The browns have drafted Minnesota's. Tyler Johnston in the fifth round, which would have been a fantastic pick, but as for the six round talent available, the Brown found great value here at the receiver position, and as a return man during his freshman season, he caught twenty two passes for two hundred seventy seven yards, and returned forty punts for big ten, leading three hundred twenty yards is seventy nine yard punt return was a season long as he ran his way into freshman all American lists. He led the big ten in return yards, two thousand, eighteen as well. He finished all big ten thirteen in two, thousand, eighteen and twenty, one thousand nine hundred efforts in the return game in twenty, nine, thousand nine. He didn't leave the conference return yards early season injury in which John Describe is a soft tissue. Groin injury. He finished with a career low seven. Point two yards per carry while it's one hundred seventy three punt return yards second in the league as a receiver, he caught thirty four passes for four hundred thirty eight yards and six receiving touchdowns. However he is going to make a name for himself with the BROWNS. It's going to be as a punt or kick returner Jarvis Landry is the number one punt returner at the moment on the depth chart. Landry is not returned a punt or touchdown since two thousand fifteen. WHO's a member of the Miami Dolphins over the last two seasons, landers returned to seven points per toll six yards. So this could be a big help. In, the special teams game so there you have it. Some pretty good picks and some questionable picks their. Overall I think they built up their offense line a little bit better. 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He was honest. If you get praised as the which we do we praise tom. Brady is the goat. And we give tom brady a pass. Because he's which we do we give him a pass at times because he's the go. We're mcelwain. tom brady berated. His teammates on thursday night football was against the chicago. Bears cussing everybody out except for himself. Marcellus uk mona show. When you said he can do that. he's the goat. He's earned that right. Well if we don't give him praise because he's the goat and we don't give him a pass because he's the goat. Oh going to get this criticism okay. Don't get this criticism like the go-to marcellus. He came to tampa bay not to win regular season games. But lord net more than that because we in the regular season so he came to tampa bay. That is. Tom brady not to beat bad teams. Janus weston was beating bad teams. Tom brady came to tampa bay to take them from average to great. Tom brady not doing that now. Doing not doing the fact. That i do i do because what we have seen is what we have seen the big eye in the sky. Don't lie let's talk about the full screen. The last season's. Tom brady vs playoff teams. He's one. In four pass touchdown pass interceptions one to one ratio. completion percentage sixty point five passer rating. Seventy four. that's on the left. Tom brady verse playoff teams. On the right you see jameis. Winston last year in totality seven and nine thirty three to thirty pass touchdowns interceptions nearly one to win a little bit better. Completion percentage a little bit better than brady's passer rating a little bit. Better than brady's. I know what you're saying. He's gonna say how dare you compare jameis winston's whole body ways to tom. Brady verse playoff. I'm gonna tell you exactly why tom. Brady's here. and jameis winston is here. 'cause tom brady is a hall of famer and jameis. Winston is a backup. Because tom brady is the greatest quarterback of all time and jameis. Winston is currently in bus territory of number one overall picks. I am going to compare tom brady. First playoff teams to jameis winston verse. Everybody 'cause tom brady. You came to tampa bay to beat playoff teams. So marcellus azzam braided deserving of criticism. Absolutely because what you came to do you do enough for ooh. Wow okay let me simplify what you just said there. Because i don't think it was inaccurate. I just think it wasn't as detailed as necessary every single player that steps on the field between the white lines deserve some level of criticism of human being. None of us are perfect so we all contribute to the wins and we all contribute losses. Tom brady is goat and we know that criticism is the cost of praise and no player has been praised more than the most accomplished player ever in. Tom brady the goat with that said. Let's not exaggerate. Let's not get excessive with this and it sounds like your take. Let's pour some on. Tom brady because of right now. We don't think this team is great. And tom brady. Who were brought there to make this team great. Tom brady will retort gatto. We don't even know your name. He goes there. I'll tell her. Sam no okay immanuel. He'll say this. You know what i brought to do win championships. I guess what i. i won't even win them every year. Guess what. I'll even want him every other year. But it sounds like you have a declaration out in the universe that tom brady goes to a team. Tampa bay ner sheer new coach new system new players. And he's supposed to win this year. We don't know how that's going to play out but right now. Tom brady always puts the ball in the regular season to what matters most to tom. Brady the postseason. That's why i don't understand your take. I don't understand why you got so much. Basing your voice in the regular season thirty now there are sixteen right now. They're in position to do everything that they want to do. Their establishing a winning culture. They're establishing a winning philosophy. Let me take you back to the bye week win. Bruce areas and tom brady were out golfing or at least set up golf. That's what they just kept talking about the four those part of anyway. They're coughing and they come to a realization that. Hey bruce arians you keep talking about calling. I get it. I'm gonna play book. I'm tom brady. I'd get this playbook but you're not understanding my philosophy remember. Two weeks ago. I came up here talk about tom. Brady bill belichick who always highlight the middle. Four minutes last two minutes before half. I two minutes after have rice bell check king of winning those moments right there and bruce areas now comes out after a game and says this look would he did at the end of the half and to start the second half against minnesota score seventeen points. You guys shouldn't be criticizing this guy for his play. Woody did in those moments. That was the marriage agreement. Awful law sophy culture. That's going to pay dividends going for when it matters most in a postseason. You gotta kiss these little details. The problem i have with your take. Big dog is very simple. You are to bias. You literally came on this very show on his very set and with all the bravado in the world. You gave. Tom brady a pass. Because he's the goat. Yes sir he has. I just break. You gave him what he earned. Well you know what else. He's he's earned is criticism when he performed below the bar was the bar was about not gonna come in and make this team the best team in your division. If you're not don't come in. I make this team. That's the best team in the conference. At least come in and make my offense pattern at least come in and make it was last year the bucks offense right now seventeenth ranked last year to third ranked. Now the bucks defense. This era seventh-ranked. Last year they were fifteen th ranked. I get that. The defense has vastly improved. But tom brady. If you're not gonna come in and instantly start beating playoff teams. Because he was winston was owen. Six verse playoff teams. He couldn't be playoff teams either last year. But tom brady one in four playoff teams. So you can't be playoff. Teams either davis western in three verse. Non playoff teams. Tom brady you seven or six. One verse of play a non playoff team really really out here. Doing marcellus wiley. Have another fools being forgotten. Want beat you down with the full screen. But i got to be too down about tom. Brady's ranks this season. Is he fifth in the nfl interceptions. Wait a second. Oh we will bring you in here to not throw. These picks up. His name is through was first a league last year. Brady you fifth. You got more picks than daniel jones of masks brady our twenty first impasse jars per wait a second. That's worse than cam. newton. Tom brady are you. Twenty fifth in completions. Come on big dog. Marcellus all sit here and make me wait and to see when tom brady is going to do in the playoffs. That's fine kick my feet up. I got my hugs on right now underneath this desk. Kick my feet up. Relax and i'll wait. I won't wait for the offense to improve because tom brady. You came here to improve the offers you got brady wears Honda influences eight. You under his gifted. Oh really yeah kendra scott and i'm the one buys. I'm you up here wearing. Tom brady shoes. But i'm the one that's buys this talk about what i got here to counter your argument right there. You really don't like complementary football you're like most naysayers. Most couch potatoes most fantasy players. Oh eight one is excitement. All they want is those winning numbers and even if it doesn't mean winning results jameis winston comes to my. Oh my god bubble matthias team when he throws those then. I would try to abort off my fantasy team. What he does those picks and you brought up the picks is eighty fifth interception. Who are are the books. Eighth internal margin now. You may say what's does that matter. It's top but it ain't special. Oh yes it. Is you know what they were last year. Twenty eighth out. You go from twenty eight to eighth and high. It affects the entire team. Not just james winston stats. How when you play complementary football when you win the middle for when you are a guy that make sure you don't turn the ball over and get the defense out there tire ura. God has planned complimentary football. Because you're thinking autry phases as you're playing your position. Tom brady thirty. Touchdown passes his most since two thousand and seventeen. But i'll tell wants to sneeze at that. Like what standard are you living by tom. Brady is a better version. Danny wasn't last year the year before as well. So if you look at tom brady and the nutshell this is the guy. That's going out there helping them win. You wanna hear top-five stat. That's not a negative please. About four those touchdown passes in the nfl this season. That's what tom brady is doing. He's taking care of the football. Better than jameis winston allowing this team to be better than it was last year as their record. Indicates seven wins last year. Eight wins. this year is still have games to go. Complimentary football men aretha boras. Nice calm the matter of football. That's balance that's supposed to be balanced like you have a balanced attack rushing and passing. You have a balance of talent. You lead me. So did i ready. We're they cowboys football for what that means you cop. The offense compliments the defense. The passing attack compliments to rushing attack. That is what complimentary. Football means marcellus. You notice okay. Good that's the new orleans saints a playoff teams. The buccaneers past thirty eight times. They ran at five. That's not complementary football against man against the los angeles rams weren't getting smashed in this game. No go bugging. Years passed the ball. Forty eight times ran eighteen. That's not complementary foot dass before the kansas city chiefs mash that game golfing yet. The buccaneers passed the ball. Forty one times. They ran it thirteen. That's not complementary football. Don't come here in. Live to america about complementary football when in these three games if i can try to do this math in my head is i am talking. The buccaneers have rushed the ball thirty three times and they passed the ball. Ooh that looks like one hundred and maybe thirty six. And i just flies sir. That's complementary bottle. I don't ever wanna compliment for marcellus wiley. You ain't gonna get many anyway. You know how. I roll jokes city. That's all i got. I got snipes at you. Look i told you. They came to marriage understanding an agreement after they went golfing on the bi week. You keep giving me pre by week. Statistics which which gives us a picture of what's going on but not in totality because they've come to a different level of understanding that will dividends going forward. You don't understand what's at play right now and it's funny how. Tom brady kind of crept his way silently to become a goat. Because i saw from hello from day one and career you at that time were young was at ten years or so when tom brady's drafted i'm already in the league. So i see it coming. And you don't see tom brady has go come coming. And then all of a sudden success to success steady championship championship. Then you start to realize they're playing a different way over there in new england. We always talk about more. Games are lost then one in a fail. And that's what. Tom brady has mastered the art of not losing games for yourself make them beat us a lets us not beat ourselves so this is a team. That's going to play complementary football going forward already a win record successful this year but more importantly what happens in the playoffs. This team sixty. They got a road rice. They do distance leads. Please answer honestly emotionless. Or don't come up here acting because right here. Tom brady has been at his best on the road. This season. two hundred and ninety six passing yards a game fifteen touchdown passes two interceptions and a one zero seven pass rating. Do you have confidence in the goat when he goes on a roll with this team. That's playing complementary football for yes or no acho. tv today hells it. No no not about it. You told me not to line up. The reason i say no is. Because i think what trump trump's that sell primetime games. You know that. What trump's all that amazing statistic you gave me the problem is what you've left out is prime time games. Tom brady trust timothy. Baller bruce arians. I trust him. I liked it when he was at arizona. Coaching carson palmer. I liked bruce arians. But what trump's all those asked that you just gave me is when the lights come on. Bruce arians does not know how to coach this team. At least that's what we've seen thus far this year the other problem i have with your take although i love how you look at it like my blue water. The problem is i'm not gonna drink. It is this you said since the bye week they played one game since the. So you you dude. It's like wait baby. The baby i was on time last night though but wait bub-bubba babies bag flowers but wake up. Baby she's like marcellus. What about the last twelve weeks. Not the last twelve hours. Don't talk to me about the one game since the by week that they won in part because the vikings fill kicker had a historically bad performance having seen a performance like that since nineteen sixty one. I'm not going out everything except for they last performance. Oh wow do. I have to go with cleveland. Browns take look where he's playing against tampa bay great baker mayfield could do no wrong. Because he's in cleveland. Threw nine interceptions. It's so he's still the best quarterback cleveland's seen in twenty years right wiley while i played at card right here tom. Brady's team playoff games since they won the super bowl. Two thousand and two show junior high for you not even through your hard for you. It's been a long so guess what it's a barren land in terms of opportunity in terms of success in the past but when i look at this team right now they have the proper leadership they have the goat. They finally understand who they are and turned the philosophy. And i gotta worn out one more thing because you really are biased against tom. Brady bringing up the fact that he was cussing his teammates out but didn't cuss himself out. You said that you said i do all right children. Let's play a little game to me. If i'm gonna cuss you out what to do. 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Good the rush anywhere doing any. Not according to schedule not to rush like that at all and especially when you're talking about a guy was eleven broken ribs and a punctured lung. Even if you're like you said couple of days ago are you mentally. He'll do you trust your body. You trust your talents. When they're physically healed. In that moment. I don't know about that but right now rushing him back makes no sense to me. You also gotta look at their schedule and a lot of time. You talk about injuries. A lot of teams wanna look at the forecast or wednesday by wheaton. When can we buy ourselves some time. In terms of this injury The sites have the chiefs in vikings two games on four days respiratory them so you play one day. Rest restaurant play again. As far as i play two games with my body said. And i'm the guy what eleven fractured ribs and a punctured lung to. I can't even walk around and breathe comfortably let alone play the game of football so people out there will. The sky will fall if we gotta continue with tastes meal. I don't know about this starting for the saints right now. Looking at this fool street drew brees and tastes them. He'll in terms of yards per game comparable rushing yards per game for the team. All right they do a little better. What takes them. He'll because obviously tasting meals run the ball more than drew brees and office touchdowns per game lighting up the scoreboard. Exactly the same. So wait a minute. If i could buy myself some time. Two games in a five day stretch by using my backup and allow my franchise quarterback to heal for the postseason. I gotta sticks desk. That don't hate you take. Obviously i'm a push back. Whenever you hear that word rush you go up if you but i liked the quote. I think my coach used to tell me in college. He would say be quick. But don't rush. It'd be quick. Don't rush. I do think however the saints should be quick in getting drew. Brees back this weekend if they can. Here's why i spent all day yesterday telling you one simple but very powerful stat. If you played the kansas city chiefs patrick mahomes has thirty one and one. If you don't put up twenty eight points or more patrick. Mahomes is thirty one in one. If you don't score more than twenty eight points. Some hail is the quarterback they put up twenty four points a game. That is the new orleans. Saints drew brees as a quarterback. They put up thirty points per game. That is a new orleans. Saints tastes him hill. The only game. He has scored more than twenty eight points this year as a starter against the team with no quarterback denver broncos the last time a drew brees team has scored twenty one points. Was you gotta go back to week. Nine sir of two thousand nine hundred. Nineteen so i say this. If you're not gonna put up more than twenty eight points. And his shown that on average he can't do that. You might as well not even played a game against the chiefs. Sunday thinking have anything can't happen. I'm telling you the thirty two times one. There was one time that a team can't happen and beat them. You don't play. drew brees saints. Y'all don't put up thirty points. Y'all might as well not even take the field. We'll bring him someone who's taken a field a lot of super bowl way. Nfl analyst gregg jetting. So you tell me in your t-shirt the same drew brees back this weekend. So i no. You can't rush him back. Obviously you want the best player on the football field. If you are the new orleans saints and if drew brees is not healthy then that makes him not the best player because you want him down the road down. The stretch like marcella said any time you have ribs like we've all played ball i've had both ribs on both sides and it is uncomfortable specifically the weeks after you get it fractured or broken. What have you it takes. So long for those those briggs to heal. I didn't have a punctured lung so i can't even speak to that but the ribs only had one on each side and it took me about five six weeks or for me to even get back to the point of where i can comfortably sit down in my seat or in a chair or in the car. So let alone getting behind the center in having to throw balls and then having deepens bands or defenders coming down on me potentially hitting me in those ribs because they know that's where i am most. You can't allow your quarterback to be susceptible to something like that. I think that they are riding the wave. Just fine with tastes. And he'll that quarterback you continue to ride that wave you sprinkled in these guys one four another pending the game plan and how you see the game working. If you're sean payton you can ride this wave against the kansas city chiefs in the vikings and for that matter for the remainder of the season before allowing drew brees. Come out and expose himself against these two teams. I respect i respect that. I'm not mad at it but let's go deeper because i'm on a show with former. Nfl players not game better than anybody and everybody. If you don't let me talk let me talk like this right now to saints. Don't have that by week. You want to know who does have the bye week. The green bay packers the one team that beat the saints this year that they might have to face again in the playoffs unless you somehow think he goes no make the playoffs for the raiders are somehow get back in it so the only team that has beat the saints this year. Is this packers team. That currently has the by right now. Saints if you do not play drew brees and you lose to these cheese you know what the packers seventeen. Greg probably been in this position before when you already got the by locked up. You're going to rest your starters. If you can't get the by saints at a minimum you gotta make sure to packers. Play every game the rest of the season because maybe just maybe aaron rodgers. Aaron jones davante adams. Maybe they'll run into rib issues like breeze to run into. Maybe at least then they'll limp into the playoffs. Instead of sprinting into the playoffs the saints have to find a way to stay competitive for that one seed because if the saints drop one more game is over for them getting one see. What's going to happen to packers going. Get to week. Seventeen and be like a ride can be on a bench. Aaron jones. take it off. Davante adams you good everybody for the packers. Who are there. Big time players. They go into the playoffs. Even more fresh than the saints and that to me is even bigger trouble. Oh man We have a conversation about wants and needs. Because i chose making it sound like it's imperative that they have the number one seed it's imperative that they have the by and they play at home but it's not if you look at this team. This is the team that has the most wins on. The road sits two thousand seventeen so fully comfortable playing into elements outside of the dome even though the narrative doesn't suggest that but the numbers do and want to needs takes me back to baby. Boy you ever see baby boy did about. It's about colin's and blood work anyway. So here's the thing players they're like yo we've had the third easiest schedule up to this point but going four we had the ninth toughest schedule and i think right. Now this is the time for sean. Payton organization to make muscular move. Always talk about muscular moves. Because that's a move. That's going to serve multiple purposes for you as a franchised we can rest drew brees. We have two games in five days. We can also see what takes some hill can really do a guest. Tougher opponents. Look at the schedule. Boom for chiefs and the vikings and then you finish off with the panthers and then we buy ourselves some time and go forward we have to instill in our team the fat not the narrative that were good away from new orleans. So why should we trip. I think that's how you have to look at it and rely on your second ranked defense to show up lou embarrassing to lose to a first time starter as a rookie and jalen hurts last week. It's time to redeem themselves so ball some time from not only your backup quarterback but second ranked defense and. Let's see how we play going forward. You know what marceau's. I'll take that that take a little further. I like that and you you start to dip in dabble with things that you possibly would have not allowed tasting hill to. Do you gotta get him to throw the ball downfield. You've got gotta get teams to respect him as a rower because when drew breeze comes back all of a sudden you have a quarterback that you know exactly what they're gonna do and an him he'll comes in if he had established himself as somewhat of a pass throwing quarterback as well as a runner as we know them to be been now you have a whole nother slang plays that to tribute to what he has on his table. This capability of doing and providing team. I don't like them rushing jewelries back in october. You talked about making the packers. Have to play their guys. One thing i will say this team's wanting to rest bay struggle with even that man on the team that's fifteen and one in you kind of want to go into the season whether you have the luxury of sitting guys or not letting them play so they don't get rusty time and chemistry has been at a premium in this season in this year. We all know that with the less amount of on appeal in practice time. So i don't know if we would even see an aaron rodgers or davante adams just completely stick because they have a bye wrapped up but let me ask you this though. G do you not take into account at all the fact that you know to beat the chiefs you gotta put up. These points tastes some hill. You thought you own is against the saints you start with. Joan is against the falcons. You're really saad. Even against the broncos even only put up thirty one points you know tastes them hill. Can't put up the same amount of points he doesn't have the same firepower. Alvin kamara and the other star players are undermined by playing tastes. some hill. Do you not at least consider the fact it realistically. If we rotate hill out there are chances of winning severely. Be creased than if we roll drew brees out there fully healthy or not. I respect that and i do agree however i think like i think i would like to know sean. Payton a little bit better. How he's been approaching this entire season. We thought the moment that drew brees went down a we're going to see James l'instant why because he can run the offense from the pocket however sean payton went a completely different way. He said no. We're going to see tastes. I'm here because we want you to prepare for. Yeah you gotta excuse me. That's that's you read. that daydream. Don't worry about on new pan doorbell. He never heard much money. Come out of the door does not when they get to know out of at the door at any rate you you i believe that sean payton. We'll have the luxury of having jameis winston step in as well as taste some hills. So you don't have to rush. Drew brees back to pose the throwing threat that you you think that they don't have when you talk about these cheap teams and these vikings and all these other teams that you have to put up points against so i don't mind him he'll to really get your feet with throw. The ball stopped holding the ball in the pocket so much get rid of the ball understand the timing that it takes to play this position like that. Take right there. I'm still not doorbell. Though i know greg off this out of the goes. Why was that created amazon. Creating oh muscular ask you made tremendous points and i want to go over as deep as you did. I love the fact that if you let some hill continue to play right now it exposes him to more and it also makes other defenses. Have to think about more dollars. Tremendous point right there and also the fact that brick really experienced going ten six and winning the superbowl next year. Fifteen one and they lost the first game of the playoffs so we all know playing the game of football. Just being human beings let along condition athletes that it takes forever to get into shape to get your timing to get your rhythm to get to chemistry but it takes no time for you to lose all those same things so teams that try to play around with rest sometimes look out after the game and they figure out that we really didn't rest. We got rusty so tremendous points. Bartholomew all made a lot of points which are words. Y'all truly did to the saints rushed you. Breathe back this weekend. But charles words. Actually the most convincing aspect of one shouldn't rush he. Greg clearly rushed to get ready for the show today. Two days ago. Greg was on the show and my dog was looking dapper. Two-day came onto so full turtle neck with a full suit. Today he came on in a black t. shirt and a vest from goodwill schools are streak in the right direction. God quarterback next door tonight. Derek carr and the raiders fight for shot at the playoff but rookie sensation justin. 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Ascap title and twenty five years this weekend and josh allen is a big reason why third year quarterback has turned it around so much this season that he has the third fest. Mvp according to fox bit attended. Three bills are in denver. Saturday and their head coach. Vic fangio called allen quote one of the top quarterbacks in the league. Greg is back with us but josh allen. A top one. Two three four five quarterback in arlene. Josh allen is baldwin. right now he is sending but no sir. I am not going to crown him until he is ready to be crowned you give you some names right now of rip. I'll just go. John big band. Mahomes russ and rodgers. If i was just talking regular season play if you want me to talk postseason play because you know in. Greg knows better than both of us. That's what really matters football. I'll take breeze. Brady russ big-band and mahomes josh. Allen is tallin again josh allen ball and in coming from wyoming. Everybody will sleep on them. Said he was inaccurate. Had a big arm but couldn't do this but can do that. But what i need to remind our love is. We have to put things in context. Josh allen is balling for jocelyn. If i was to ask brag about that marcellus is hey fellas. How big ben doing this year. What would also eating he g. How big is your exactly. That's fat. Greg would say exactly what i would say. Yeah he is he playing well he could be better but if we can look at the falls green please. Big ben's team is playing better. Big ben has more touchdowns. Big ben samaan interceptions. Completion percentages is adequate. Now i know what you're gonna push back and say which is. Why have the last two categories on their watch. Josh allen has six rushing touchdowns. Joe i show josh. Allen has three hundred fifty rushing yards. There you go. Yeah he's also been set twenty four times and and give up one hundred fifty sack yards. Negative marcellus don't assured that off you know the game of football won and lost based on creating negative plays. You were paid millions of dollars to get sex. So don't show shrug me like i'm an emoji. And the other thing we talked about. Is josh allen got six fumbles lost so all the running the ball that he's doing and all the positive touchdowns he's getting running the ball. He's also hurting his team doing that as well. I'm not saying josh. Allen isn't good i'm not saying he's not helping his team more than he'd hurting his team but already anticipate the argument. Josh allen could run he can but that running has also led to twenty four sacks six bubbles law. So i would say big band is playing greg would say big band is playing big ben players. Good as if not better than josh allen. We just think for josh allen. Josh out is playing. Delete man coaches used to always hear us complain as to say look do. Don't talk about the pain. just show me baby. Which results is all i care about. I don't care how hard it is. I don't care what you're doing. And i'll tell you take took me so far beneath the surface. Give it to work to go to search for sale sometimes. Is this as obvious as it needs to be as simple and you need to keep it simple. Yes josh. Allen is a top five quarterback you had the nerve dimension does shawn watson. Excuse me let me get into my self help book mode which always tells you to focus in on the president just focusing on the right now. The future we'll come in the past is gone so let's focus in on right. Now take all of you. What you know about these quarterbacks and a lot of this implicit bias or explicit bias comfort affecting you know how good they been boo. How good are they right now. Josh allen certainly is top five in terms of wins which matters the most on the surface. I'm not going that deep not splashing. I'm not diving for it. Only patrick mahomes and big ben half more wisdom him this year. He's better than big ben this year. So let's stop that so only to really go out there and say something to the young cat who is what third in whiz this year. Third and game winning drives forth in court. Fourth quarter comebacks six and touchdown. Completion percentage like yours. We're talking about dude. Who are known as climbed his own mountain but is up there with the nfl elites in terms of his production and his production satisfies me but his wins. This is god already has a ten win season and now were they in this year. Thirteen whiz and now we're going to sit here and try and slight the youngster. Because he's new on the block. Give him his roses. Why could still smell. Josh allen is top five. i'm with you. Marcel isn't a no just a couple of days ago. I was talking. We compare josh allen disarm watson. And i took the shawn watson however Josh allen is a baller. And i'm a recognized for what he is not going to sit here and act like i don't see when i see you the screen up art show and you. I want to address the twenty four sacks in the six fumbles. that's what makes him so good. The fact if you look at aaron rodgers plate with his earlier years he got sacked more. Why because he could use his legs because he held onto the ball. More if you look at the guy who you even decided to compare him to ben rothlisberger before he turned the corner on age and started to get rid of the ball a little bit more. He got sacked more. Why because he extended plays he played off script. That's what provided his team. Which so much success in. That's what we're seeing with josh allen. He is a quarterback that's playing with tremendous amounts of competence right now because of what brandon being the general manager. and scott. dermott sean mcdermott. Excuse me has has seen in this quarterback when it comes to his skill set. Now let's put pieces around him so he can show the world and an odd show. How good he really is. And he can put some respect on his name and call him a top five quarterback in the national football league. Gentlemen gentlemen gentlemen jan so man just because you nuff tough five ain't no disrespect now which let's not act like me saying that. He's the seventh eighth. Maybe the six best quarterback. Let's not act like. I'm disrespecting the young brother and doing him a disservice but i'm going to educate educate the people i heard. I'm sure you've heard this before. Especially you columbia. Y'all remember the iceberg principal theory that suggests that we can't see most of the situations data. See y'all they're only looking at the ten percent of the iceberg of the ocean. But i am diving beneath the surface. Because unlike you all. I'm doing a little bit more homework. The other name for the iceberg principal marcellus and also the theory of omission. The you all are omitting pivotal data. That is what about josh allen. What we've seen from him in the play offs. What about the body of work even if you wanna talk about this season's body of work. Let's remember the movie. We all love also the true story. The titanic and sunk sale because of what happened beneath the surface sir. So i'm just trying to take your but neat. The surface josh allen is a great ascending quarterback. But can we all. Please just put this in perspective. Oh y'all out here trying to crown kid before he's even gotten fit for the crown order thrown. Wow okay wants to sit up here and try to assess our intelligence based on. I don't know what schooling or looks. I do more homework. I'm emmanuel acho so well study long study wrong. I'll why the hell you in the book. It's kinda obvious now. I don't even want to go into the conversation of going forward if you were to draft a quarterback today would josh allen. Be top five quarterback draft. Obviously we're going to pick patrick mahomes. Oh since we brought up. Patrick mahomes the best quarterback. We have in a game right now. Let's compare josh allen to the best quarterback in the game right now josh. Allen plan against teams scoring defenses top five scorers deficits four know what fourteen touchdowns two interceptions and a passer rating of one. Twenty one point about the rams. The steelers the dolphins to forty niners. Let's compare him to patrick. Mahomes face those teams the dolphins and what are the dolphins due to patch home when faced him three interceptions. Thirty are sack. All right not much comparison. How about this too chiefs a seven and since week. Seven word of bills right there behind him. Six and one. Oh right there keeping pace with the best quarterback since week nine the bills lee. Nfl scorn wait a minute. Not the chiefs chiesa number four. Okay what about the bills allowing fewer points per game than the chiefs in that same span if he is stacking up right there in measurable goals and actual stats with the best quarterback. We have available. How does agile drop him. Not to three four five but to number six or something else makes no sense to me coming up do do smith schuster all here. We go do on their logo due to cheer. We'll tell you if we have an issue with three game moves nets. Speak for yourself. Welcome back to speak for yourself. Bills beat the steelers last week and it appears they had extra motivation to smith. Schuster danced on the bills. Low durham pre game and if fired up buffalo josh allen even called out the actor during his pre-game huddle but doodoo said he don't keep on dancing adding quote. I'm not going to stop being myself. Greg is back with us to see a g. but marcellus would you have an issue with juju dancing on your logo pre-game no i have no issue at all. I'm not symbolic like that. I'm not here part of the council to protect goals. That ain't even my damn logo admi contract the logo. I'm worried about me. Getting ran over. Not a damn. Logan ran over. That's all i'll give a damn about and if you care about this to the point where you're going to retaliate about this. Oh i think your motivation lee challenged. Yeah you're week. You tough guys gotta show everybody in the world you damn this what. He just spent two logo homey bombs in home. I hate it those growing up. And i hate it when they make their money and they're trying to be tough. That's why didn't getting growing up. You better grip. Chris shaw eight-man not known cruise. Show we break now apartment own that so what the out there represent for awesome suck talk this week. It has no bearing on the game. This about tackles an execution. And you do that. Who i i would only live here. We ran here. I'll be wrong. This on buffalo bills man with thousands percents big dog. I have no issue. Do dancing on a logo. Look let me put this in context for the fans particularly. If you ain't play sports. If this was college it'd be different but remember this players. Choose the college they go to the. Nfl team chooses the player they draft. So you don't even get to choose organization you play for. I don't have any sort of allegiance to a logo. I got an allegiance to the czech allegiance. Some teammates might have an allegiance to some coaches. People always ask me what team you root for. Because you played me. Nfl said i rooted for the team that was paying issue dancing on it. The reason josh. Allen does josh allen is young what did he twenty. Three twenty four years old. Josh allen was just in college three years ago like he's still has that collegiate mindset. I gotta protect my logo to protect your boys. You got to protect yourself to protect dazzling on a logo is not a big deal. Ain't no issues here. Yeah without with you guys one hundred as you got me we. Will you hear when you hear guys say. I saw this on a logo that gave me a little extra ish little extra fire but you may want to come out and give me that. It'd be wasn't as thank you. So that's best where i have an issue. I didn't need somebody to dance on a logo or come out. Show me up in ways. That wasn't pertaining to me directly. You come out and disrespect me directly. Yeah you might get something else extra because you just incited for me to do a little bit more and come out of a little bit more earth but if you doing it to the team i'm cool as long as you ain't touch me. Doing attacked him. Good that right now. I love these conversations. Because i feel like fans listening at home michael what they danced on our local danced on our show. We don't care. My homeboy hit me the other day they were like. You don't have an issue with john. Harbaugh got all mad. How come john harbaugh was getting mad at the players. Have maybe two weeks ago. How come the ravens players this. They worried about the game like worried about what somebody else does now. I'll say this there's a difference between y'all remember te'o when he played for the niners he's scored on a cowboys. Ram via back to the star. That number has different. Don't now you disrespecting me right. Then and there offender because you scored on me out. I say okay. Tell who got off. I was in nam. Teo in his celebrates tayo is own. The field best receiver ever saw. He ran every single route and when he caught the ball. That's when the problems began was running with that one hand and knocking people out the way the other way we played and when i was on the chargers and teo scored long past thirty forty yards. Whatever enough time for us to collect our breath realize we ain't gonna catch him but let's look at the celebration. Why not and we're just opener. Pompons i thought it was disrespectful for the scoreboard up. Six seven points but it wasn't disrespectful. The celebration how does him run into a star and say oh. Yeah i'm a star disrespect me. The disrespect thing is. We allowed him to score to get that opportunity making makes sense. I'm torn. I'm gonna remember y'all remember with cam. Newton with high hitting them folk and then titans defender was like h allow. I was at the time. Because i'm like if you don't wanna dance. Don't let him in the end zone. But at the same time. So if i put myself back in shoes as a defender you go sit there and you score on me. And then run to the star. You know what i'm saying. Then you run into. Everybody wanted us national tv. Mom now watch if and then you just finished score and then go celebrate now. You do too much now. I'm running. otto's locker put on clothes in his hair balls and grabbed his phone. Red star with fake. Four says look marcellus. I'm one hundred percent. I'm telling you right now. I own this property that i'm sitting right now. Somebody comes outside of my property in start marking up the street or or eggs and some my neighbor's house in my looking young. I'm looking like my in my concern yet. I'm not concerned. Until i see also air on my house wasn't until then i'm still i'm looking at here. I'm telling my wife now. Say he got nothing to do with that newest. I'll know who you no matter what that noise and look the bills safety jordan players said that turned us up a little bit here and about him dancing on the logo again. I hate this otto talked about it. He wants to play football every single player. No matter who was on the injury report no matter if they were rookie or veteran perennial pro bowler. I expected a one hundred percent. Why does that matter. Because when i expect one hundred percent nothing you're going to do is going to scare me because i'm fully prepare for now. You may be more skilled than me. You may be better to make you met me up and down the field. But i am not gonna now fathom that you can turn it up even another notch like. There's a hundred ten free nutty and that's the problem you know. Hey hey do radio. Oh no. he's also thirty three bucks lot. Hey i hate remorse marcellus student. I'm wholesale well. You can't tell me that. There is not increased motivation. When somebody increase goats go think jennings senior night. Think greg jennings. Maybe you knew he about your last game at lambeau man greg jennings somebody talk about your wife. Somebody talking about two kids. There is marcellus may hire of motivation are dark the wait. Wait wait wait wait. That's different. that's different you come in. You're literally coming at me. And who who. What means we all just set up here and said okay it not that we don't care about these organizations but what we care about most is That will that impact you pay me on the first of the month and fourteen if not then we go but when you start talking about my family when you start coming at me things that impact me. Shift thing something if you can start here. The thing greg myself even disagrees with that marceau's called me out wrong. You don't think. Greg greg marseils believe this. I'm already going into a game with the highest level of motivation. I'm so nothing can make me more motivated. Because to become more motivated is to mean. I wasn't as motivated. As i should have been so greg marcellus don't even agree with what you say greg from wrong so hurt before more. Don't even agree with what you say. And then the a if somebody comes to me my. I can't get any more motivated because i'm already as motivated as i can't be. They'll talk to knees you as my lawyer. I'm representing myself. Change mike bart say i walk into a game our used to be cycled and that doesn't mean people relaxed doesn't mean play a perfect game doesn't mean i'm gonna go out there and destroy people because i'm psycho but i am fully motivated to go out there and then you go up me and you say marceau's your mama and like where's it going to go because i don't have any room between where i am where i could be. That's my motivation. Motivation is not all you need in terms of execution. So make sure you understand that point. But i will push back nacho and this up you didn't play your best game on senior night new keep bringing up that example and you had two games same senior year. Better your see you. Where's the motivation rhetorical. Let me give you one example to help you show me. This is a family show. And you'll never figure this out without me spilling the beans. I was a buffalo bill for four years. Then free agency. I went to san diego. We played buffalo that next year to see this story telling them myself pregame cycle. I'm ready to go. My old teammates giving them love day talking trash about me while the overpaid widely. Sorry why ain't good. We're glad he's gone. Oh really first place sack segue play tackle for loss. Third-place set passed out in even do nothing else the rest of the game. That's the only example. I have of maybe one hundred one day sale invite all. Is you ball that game two games. Did you have over the course of your career about me. A who cares his but that extra motivation put you in the top ten percent of your play my senior night the top ten percent of my play knowing somebody does disrespect me ing game if somebody run to the star after they just call speaking and they try to do a little too much extra shine lice. Like this yes. So you a cowboy. You bought gold korean. I would've i would've done. I now see if defense of cabinet down something because it's going to be this. You not going to sit here and act a donkey in the whole stadium mao folk watching on thanksgiving. No sir story baker mayfield. He'd been acting a donkey owner meal and he says he plays better with confidence. We'll tell you that can help or hurt. The speak welcome back time now for rewarding performers sponsored by capital one. What's in your wallet. Let's head to cleveland our big story. The browns lost thriller. Monday night to the ravens are ravens. Baker mayfield is still getting positive. Baker had three touchdowns in four to nearly pull out. The win threw an interception. It was his first and six games yesterday. Baker gave a while. He's playing better this season essay for best. And so just just my eyes through just to bakers. Help or hurt. The brand biggest confidence is helping. The browns exponentially. It is helping. The browns tremendously bakers. Confidence always proceed. Success maker mayfield confidence. It precedes his success. Baker mayfield went to lake travis. High school in austin texas. He was a walk on but he was confident. Enough to realize. Okay if i go to texas tech is go work out for me. Goes to texas. Tech becomes a starter. Baker mayfield was confident enough to say you know what if i third oklahoma. Even though i was formerly a walk on things shake he goes oklahoma. He's competent enough. That you know if i come back my senior year. We might a pretty far college. Football playoff wins the heisman trophy number. One overall pick baker mayfield's confidence that always precedes his success. But what. I'm seeing this year. Even with confidence is now permeating the entirety of the teen. Football you know we would often say especially more in a workhouse. faking it. what it till you make a six. am morning workout. You don't want to be there you don't but you gotta fake it until you can make and then once you make it got a fake no more than baker mayfield officially made it but not just with this talk sale because if he was just talking nonsense then that means i'm just talking nonsense. Actually did it with his actions. Y'all remember in a game. Monday night fourth and forests a pivotal down baker. You have to make a play. I can tell you about it or i could just show you fourteen. Four thirteen minutes left you down by fourteen points. You gotta do something baker. Okay you're going to step up into the pocket. I'm sitting on my couch cream. Run baker just went baker competent enough in himself in team. To strike for the touchdown bakers confidence. It precedes his success. His confidence is now permeated to the entirety of the team. Not just in lip service but in actual performance. Oh wow that was a great. take out. sorry. I was just on google looking baker mayfield confidence and higher translated in the last game and amazing that baker mayfield in the first quarter. That confidence interesting. Not too confident. Second quarter dirk. Oh did i see in the fourth quarter at three touchdowns when lamar had to go to the bathroom. Like that's when you wanna show out your debt confident. Let me give you an example for him because of his confidence. I don't even see where it lands on the browns it's weird. It's almost a trick question confidence. How does it hurt you. Well and baker mayfield's case he finds a way because confidence can easily slide off center and become arrogance can be talking especially so. Let's talk about the emotional fulcrum. You know what that is see-saw so we have a seesaw when a balance right right. Here's the focal. That's what keeps the see-saw imbalanced so confidence is supposed to be a quiet quality of belief that no matter. What comes your way. I'm good for you're not going to be erotic. You're not going to be all over the place in terms of emotions and behaviors. You're certainly not going to look for fights and not pick them because your confidence and baker mayfield wants us to believe he's right there to fulcrum right there in the middle right to balance that but what happens with baker mayfield more times than not is actually he's either. He's arrogant and cocky some of the erratic behavior we've seen before or by performances or he doesn't believe well enough in his own abilities. You know why because this is a guy who just broke his streak of no back to back games of two hundred and fifty yards or more and twenty four games so now in a losing effort is the time for. We're supposed to have a shower of roses for baker mayfield and sit there and say he's playing tremendous and has spread through the team in a losing effort. Oh because he asked him stats. What does that matter when you're stats are not consistent. Because baker mayfield's mental makeup is not consistent if he were confident. I wouldn't here so much from him. If he were confident. His play wouldn't be all over the place. It will be steady. Eddie you'll be still but baker mayfield be real as much as i loved him in college is up or is down next ever balanced. I respect i respect. I'm not mad at it because you're not incorrect. But i'll say this the difference between confidence and cockiness. Can you back up okay. Difference between confidence and in college. We were never like oh baker so cocky like baker so confident playoffs playoffs is meant top. Passing offense top passing player. Then he got to the league and we're all like oh baker so cocky bickering change. He just stopped balling. But the difference between cockiness confidence is. Can you back it up right now. Bakers backing up. The browns are backing it up nine four on pace to have their best record since nineteen ninety. Four offense firing on just about every single cylinder baker. Mayfield twenty eight touchdowns to only nine interceptions. You just told me josh. Allen was balling this year. Top five quarterback josh allen twenty eight touchdowns nine interceptions baker mayfield projected raft twenty eight touchdowns nine interception. So if daas. Allen is top five and bakers projected to have twenty. Eight and nine with dasa has right. Now i'm not gonna sit here and act like baker is just sorry makers achieving. I'm going to act like baker is what he is bald in right now and has confidence. Now that he's backing up is only certifying that but it's still not in balance and i like that. It's still not in balance year was good to great what was the second year. Okay so once. Again the seesaw. Here you make your own. Damn what's this year is trying to bring it in balanced but if you look at this year under a microscope you see like two different seasons. You see baker mayfield out there ballin but you also see baker mayfield have seven games. This year would completion percentage under sixty percent acho. Who have a lot of as a lot of them coming of late. You got your own success. We're on a team together. But you're doing your own thing as well. You know what i can't do. These streaks is. I'm a new york times bestseller. Because i i'm to tell you what i joe who is one so i'm a high behind his cover. That's what baker mayfield does so many times during the year he hides behind the fact that this team has won so many games. And it's nick. Chubb kareem hunt me to. Hey wait a minute baker. You'll deserve to be the picture all the time but let me ask the problem. Bad and big dog moncada's okay. Sure i'm a new york times bestseller great. I am kudos kudos kudos. But you know what you'll read at the very back of the book and you notice because he wrote a book there's a section called acknowledgement. Yeah yeah yeah. i know what. You're doing acknowledgements. You acknowledge those who contributed to the success of the book acknowledge those who contributed to the success of the work. Now know oprah and write a word but you best believe she was a second name. I know my editor didn't necessarily write a word but you best believe she was the third name in my acknowledgement so just because baker mayfield may not be the driving factor of the success and just because bakers picture in a suit looking. Fresh may not be at the back of the book. Less not acknowledge and forget to acknowledge rather baker mayfield and the integral part. He's playing and his confidence is playing in. He's like that tape. 'cause i got a book stores amazon. Nobody muscles okay. Here's the thing magic. Johnston okay. here's a baker mayfield k. High i used to love being this guy on the team that everybody. Yeah we want. We go the team playing the veterans pick where they want to sit typically first-class. My name or way in the back is weird like superstar. Be waiting to back away from the coaches. And then y'all wrestle yahoo bald or play good or whatever. Y'all all right. If i'm on baker's team he can't pick where he wants to sit. I'll do the quarterback or not. I hear all the time when i say something about baker mayfield. He's a game manager game manager plus he's somewhere in that world but he's not franchised worthy yet. He's not elite for sure it's like he's coming. He's going somewhere but where because he's been so erratic where he's been four game win streak this year and everybody started this baker talk one point over this season baker mayfield here he comes and then he played the pittsburgh steelers. Thirty eight two seven. Pick six i play. It was ugly. Another four game win streak. Going into the raiders game. Here we go again. He put up some numbers. I won't even say empty. I would just say out of place. Because that that touchdown that he ruined the fourth quarter great but people forget that they were in a dire situation. 'cause interception that he threw. And what are you. Throw the interception. Brian greasy said he was like a man. If you're gonna be a quarterback in this league you can't have arrogance which accuracy and arrogance which arm strength baker mayfield man all over the place. Let me just push back on a little bit of making left audubon being like this right here. We often times we view gay managers a bad thing right as i was like you know what i hate marcelo wrong when people will be like. You're so judgmental like today's society. You're so judgment. I can't stand him. He's judgmental no cannot assess the situation and decide if i want to be part of it or not like being judgmental is not a bad thing being a manager is not a bad thing when we've seen game losers this year carson wentz and he's been a game loser cam newton. He's been a game loser at time. Mitch trubisky he's been a game loser. Kirk cousins first. Two games of the season. He was a game loser. When i realize that there are several quarterbacks who during the course of the season have periods of being game losers then baker. If all you're going to be as a gay manager. I take that big dog coming up cam newton and being called out by teammates trainer. We'll tell you if this is something nothing back to speak for yourself. The patriots aren't generating. A lot of offense is always time to point fingers wider fever and kill hairy only had five catches in his last three games. Mind you use a former first round. Pick so his trainer called out cam. Newton first clients last lack of production. He said you gotta put some of that. Expletive on km km hasn't been the most accurate this year. Like if harry had brady. Tom brady would've fed them. Is a big deal coming from tom. Brady to cam newton cam. Newton's biggest issues is canucks. Greg jennings is back with us greg. You'd rather than all star receiver and since you're the only former diva wide receiver. Yeah we come. You got a comment from harry's trainers something or not big dog they are something and unfortunately maceio hairy this this should not be coming out of his his wing trainer. I mean he can't get it. He can't control what other people are doing or saying but if he was a baller and he was balling. Maybe you can have somebody saying something. But i've played with aaron rodgers brett farve and i put up. Great numbers came over here to the minnesota. Vikings in had christian ponder. I had not castle a young rookie. Teddy bridgewater and then in miami tanna hill. Obviously not the caliber of what. I was accustomed to now one time. Did i ever blame my quarterbacks. Because i felt like i could overcome whatever they were lackey because i felt like i was that good period. And so my thing would kill. Harry is when you get to this stage when you get to this level. Let the outside talk about what needs to happen from your quarterback. Don't allow you or your people to start to put that that verbiage out there because it looks like you are in front of me in charge of it and when you have not made the plays that nicole as just not made look at last year. He didn't have a ton of receptions with tom brady while they're talking about tom. Brady was at quarterback. He will be getting tons of receptions tons of targets. Well we don't know that and you don't have that if it was a fifth all of the kill harry mantilla trainer to chill. You'll get some accolades once you start bawling buddy man. My mom always said you don't have nothing nice to say. Don't say nothing at all. I you talk so much during the show. Oh nice i'm gonna appease my momma recipe and say happy birthday. Kill harry your third birthday. And that's all. I got about the nicest talk harry. Huff alone is. Is this your accessory to this issue right here. Like they're at least eight counts eight indictments coming from this one right here. One count of ignorance to council crazy. What are you talking about. You have nothing in terms of production and performance. That could support anything coming from your mouth or anyone in your camp but we heard him come out and say something. He was the second receiver drafted in his class. You know where he ranks. Right now receiving yards twenty-second in that same class. I say the. Nfl is in that same class. You were drafted number two receiver. And now you're twenty-second receiving yards his rookie year. He wants to go out there and say well tom brady was there. Tom brady would feed them. What right he was there rookie. How'd that turn out. You were injured while you injured because your trainer was too busy talking instead of and then when employees you give us total year. A hundred and five yards greg. Jin is out of do my homework. Study long steady wrong. I studied right. This time you greg jennings had eighteen gains in your career over one hundred and five yards in a game but that was nicole harry's entire season. Oh man i ain't going out like that this year have two hundred seventy seven yards four on the depth chart and you first rounder kill. Harry has no leg to stand on game to stand on and his trainer needs. The mind is this is what should be getting the kill harry good enough. So he can get the rock Let me push back against y'all. Because i'm not gonna add to let me push back. Stocks marcellus widely used to work with an individual who very controversial and. he's very controversy about. Okay incredibly controversial. And he's very controversial log on social media at times not necessarily because like he's necessarily santa wrong thing but you just didn't have to say you didn't have to actually say it you might have a little bit of truth to what you're saying but that wasn't necessary nor was it nice maceio. Harry's trainer here say the wrong thing. Ditties cam newton picks to five. Tv's he as eight or wrong thing. He said what most of us to pray to say. What is say we got. Put some of that s show accurate this year. What he's the last sentence. Wanna cam newton biggest issues as mechanics. A thoughtful analysts in the nfl. Bucky brooks daniel jeremiah. They have the broadcast last week. At cam new. They said it looks like the elasticity and camps arm is gone. They said the same thing. What bill belichick's say just two days ago our offense hasn't been as efficient as we'd like for it to be he's saying the same thing what me and you say yesterday debating cam you know cam does look like he lost a little some so we say in the same thing were just too nice to say with our chests. Mikhail harry's trader. He came all said. We all been thinking came. Really got it like that no more. He just said it with his chest. So i'm not going to reframe. Gotta turn he just well. We've been thinking. I know that dude you talk about. He used to say right there. And i know this type of trainer because the dues started off with a lot he. The most accurate guy can't is throwing the football and accuracy sixty six percent. Completion percentage second highest for his career. Which is a career average of sixty percent but now cam is not accurate. Wait a minute. If he don't say what his chest what they're saying. What you chest and say what you really mean. You went initially to the only thing that can do this to be accurate. What the football. So if i can't believe your topic sentence what the hell am. I going to listen to the rest of what you're talking about because all you're really trying to do is give some cover to your underperforming underachieving client in the kill harry. Hey football tough. I'll give it to him. How good you used to be good. You were yesterday today with no entitlement in a game you after always go out there and you only eat what you kill the kill. Harry has not done enough of that. And it's funny. A trainer in new england is going to be someone. That's going to cause a fire. Because i've heard a comment ever from the keel hairy. Not controversial have you. have you know. Was her anything from him. He's hiding under a rock because he knows he ain't bowling trader. Go lift the rock up and say hey the only high number here because cam newton said he can't get him because he ain't accurate. That makes no sense to me. So i know we had tb twelve in new england and alex guerrero and bill belichick and grow had their issues. Guerrero would never have done this. You know why because this. What does this in fifteen mikhael harry. Fifteen you off to a bad start in new england because your way you controversial and everybody was sitting there like. What are you talking about two point at your quarterback because you can't get open to me that look suspect as a receiver that has played the position that nicole harry is the culinary is currently playing. I would like to extend this to his trainer as well as himself. It's simple put up or shut up Period if you put up in that game putting up that work you might want to shut up son. You might wanna have everybody else schussing around you because until we're talking about you talking about the plays that you're making and what you have doing what you could be doing. And we're not talking about all of the potential that rest your physical physique in what you could provide to cam. Who is taking a step back. Yes but what. Have you done to make him even better until you do that. And you start feeling that boy put upper setup. Just just be quiet. Keep doing what you're game has been nothing you turn out there writing checks. You can't pass not which performances right now got season. Averages greg jin gains. That ain't gonna work in a field. At daybreak you gotta step it up coming up. Yana sustain him a walk him. Tell you if the greek freak decision is good for the nba. Nex speak for yourself trainer. Like well the mac to speak for yourself. Let's head to the nba. Were gonna stay in milwaukee at the side of the five year of two hundred and twenty eight million dollars. Super max extension. Eat greek freak. Who said his your plan is to quote have kids and to have a championship in that order to got to bring in fox. Nba analysts slick. Rick the a slip is gonna stay in milwaukee good or bad for the nba. It's terrible for the nba. There could be nothing worse for the nba. Then jaanus onto trump. Oh saying pledging allegiance to the milwaukee bucks it's wholesome i'm going to have kids might throw a couple of championships in there. But i want to repay my respects. I want to show my gratitude to the city of milwaukee. No here's the reality. it's great for milwaukee. It's great for the people of milwaukee but what have we learned about the nba. Over the last few years that the movement and mobility of its superstars has made it what it is and most attractive and capturing the greatest part of the sports landscape. We're talking about. Anthony davis the week before the super bowl and the possibilities of him going into the lakers. Now that lebron ad have signed and pledged allegiance to the lakers. How much how much gravitas did that get. How it splashed. Did that get nothing. How much have we talked about. Jaanus deciding to stay in milwaukee an earth shaking event considering that we were talking about him potentially going to toronto or miami or the or golden state. It does not play what we have seen. Is that people. Do not watch games today. The the market and the audience for the nba is a younger audience. That spends its time on social media. That's where the nba has become more popular than ever. It's not watching the games. It's talking about it. And what are we talk about. The potential of a superstar going some place else. The number of fans that are interested in jaanus potentially coming to their team and what it would mean dwarfs the number of fans in milwaukee were excited. That he's staying. It's just the reality. Wholesomeness royalties not play on social media pettiness. An unnecessary drama do and since the nba is making its bones on social media. This is the worst thing that could possibly happen for the slick. I would be sad if this was just your one bad take. I'm heartbroken because this is three days in a row now. Terrible take slick great for the nba. Slick rick and let me tell you why the greatest things about great sports is para teeth. What makes sports so great. Slick is parity knowing that there is a little bit of equality among sports so matches will be tight. What made that. Ravens browns game on monday night. So good was how evenly matched they work. What makes them the nfl. So nicer marcella to this. What makes a slit so good. Is it if the two percent of the games thicker decided by one possession or less parody slick from thousand fifteen to two thousand eighteen. I didn't care about the eighty. Two games from november in between may. Because what i knew was from the first tip off until the end may we were going to see the warriors and the cavs. The eighty two games were meaningless offensive. Rookie of the years. All star games defensive player at a years forty point games. It was all meaningless lick because i can tell you one thing and one thing alone. The warriors we're going to beat the cavs at the end. No parody slip. Why does college football semi finals have so many issues right now. Because nine of the twelve semi final games have been by double digits the average margin of victory slick and the college football playoffs. 21-points parody so what makes the games boring keeping yon in the east. Mind you the. Easterly has two of the top ten best players in the nfl so that recently in the nba so that recently came out slick it brings and breeds parody parody is what makes the games great come also got a new man takes good take some sorry for sneeze right there syria to me. But you know what i'm gonna make up for with a good take. I hope and i think this is good for the nba as well because you want to smoke. They the wants to smoke. 'cause somehow someway we've been duped into our society that the smoke is what matters most as we're growing up. I was a nerd. Real nerd like would. I didn't look the part because i didn't wear glasses and the pocket protector certainly inside internally thought just like the nerds on the outside and is to hear all the time all other the popular kids and the gangsta all the baller. And everybody was in their own cliques. Thinking that they had best way up the mountain and the smoke that they were causing and all the attention they were going getting was going guarantee success and then the real world hits you and you start to realize that maybe you should have been a little more focused on what matters most what matters. Most honest is given a thousand percent his loyalty and his family. And i'm not mad at a guy who put his family first. Because you know what basketball we'll leave you. What's your family. Hopefully so in that situation. That's a positive. Let's talk about the nba and while they're sitting there and maybe applauding this silently as well. I go back to two thousand and ten with the decision. You guys remember that. Lebron james taken his talents down to south beach. And that's the first time we saw the ratings decline in nba wanting to smoke slick. Well lebron james gave you the smoke with the decision and all of the antics oh the pep rallies ama- championships but the nba first version of smoke. And we're starting to happen with the ratings as they went down. Oh other players start to say. I liked that smoke we saw. There's a long list. Blau highlighted with kevin durant choir leonard. Paul george anthony davis etcetera since then starting to make enforce trays and go where they want to go in on the flip side says two thousand ten. We saw guys like dirt. Kobe dunkin all retire with the same franchise that drafted him long careers. And then there's this other generation of players jaanus like steph curry like klay thompson like damian lillard. There says you know what. I'm gonna a stay while i was drafted and success. Either come to me or else. I'm just going to stay here and figure it out. I think the nba needs to understand. What's happening right now that they needed to return back to the yesteryear times when the nba was flourishing and there were stability. I think it was a turn off to many fans as the rayton suggests that if you get to choose an pick and go wherever you want to go is not necessarily greater for the nba. As whole okay you guys need to get together and work out your cases if you're going to take the same side where we have conflicting positions and you just gave me one show one of these days you and i are going to agree on a subject. But didn't you just made a case that made the nba so popular for you is that we were seeing the cavs and the warriors the consistency of the cavs and the warriors in the finals. That was the attraction for you. And now marcellus tells me could all the movement everything. That's what's taking away. And that's why the ratings are decreasing. Okay so so what is it. The ratings have been decreasing because of the move or because of consistency. The bottom line is the tv ratings. Have steadily decreased the in the bubble we had a great matchup. We had lebron. James and anthony anthony davis and we had that pursuit of a fourth ring versus the upstart miami heat. Another decent market and yet the ratings from the year before golden state vs toronto fell fifty percent in the finals. But you know what increase the social media following and why did it follow because people who are following the nba this in this day and age. The market is into the smoke there into talking about it and debating it exchanging tweets more than they are actually watching the game and so not a spinning in milwaukee is great competition and jaanus is a great watch as a player. But nobody's watching so the interest in you. Honest would be far greater. If he wasn't pledging allegiance to milwaukee and was like lebron up until the lakers where it was every two every year every two years. Where is he headed next. Slick slick slick if you indulge his smoke. Go to one of these shops out here and these corners in la. Okay you keep bringing out. The you must understand. Not i was saying that the warriors versus the cavaliers for four years in a row was bad for the nba. Because you didn't have to care so much about the games in between because the games in between were irrelevant. The games in between were rendered meaningless. Slick i already have issue with the nba. And its attainment of parody. Because of the lottery. I like the way the. Nfl doesn't worst team. Get the best second worst team. Got the second best. Pick that to me makes sense. Slick very simple from me. You keep your honest in east. That means you keep a high level of competition in the east along with the well coach raptors team along with the currently roster wise talented brooklyn tepe. But i remember early. Two thousand up until up until the brian got good you saw the west was dominant and east was like the laughingstock. Lakers want to chip lakers. Wanted chick lakers chip spurs one. A chip pistons. Okay spurs one. A chip heat lakers wanted to wanted to like come off. There wasn't no parody. There was this kind of like whoever wins. The west is gonna win it all and east day just out there running jumping. That's it. look. I think the fans are sitting there. Slicks like look at the players and not buying into this situation. And i'm not going to buy into the same level as well. How's it good for the nba. If they're smoke on twitter but it's not helping the nba. twitter wins. Twitter gets more value and and is a better platform but people were not watching the games you say slick so. I think there's some undermining your argument by your own conversation. Because it's a drama field argument and win in this world does really win to have more sizzle than substance. Stink about that like my example growing up. And that's why. I was talking about like substance over time is gonna win this merit don and i don't think that a lot of the nba people at executives are thinking about that in the same way but there is a coincidence or greater of correlation between twenty ten into the kleiner ratings and all this player movement all of the sudden that has occurred as well from twenty five coming up or to the hottest teams in afc. But we'll tell you which team is more danger nets speak for yourself gets for those that show how the browns and the bills both looked like they're headed for the play offs. Cleveland has won four of five and they are the fifth seed in the afc. Right now well buffalo. The bills are the three c one three straight games including last week's crescent win against steelers. So marcellus who's more dangerous. Afc team right now. Is that the browns at bill. Let's go buffalo. Ooh this is really a spike right now. Draft into sort of brown. Thank you and i was drafted by the mafia. You know keep it cased up here. i'm gonna keep it simple to. I want to hear your retort. Guess winning teams. The browns are to enforce this year. That's a losing record acho. The bills are five and three versus teams. Would a winning record. This season looks to me. That when you talk about postseason which are the winning teams. The better teams. The buffalo bills have already proven that there are more dangerous more lethal better against those teams than your your team right here. I want to hear this respect marcel. Though i got a lot of notes here. Johnny whenever somebody like keep a quick. I want to hear your cause. Ain't got no i got it now. Look look big. Let me. I got fire. I did my homework blank. Sheet of paper up there. I just have one me. Give me the cleveland browns. And give me the cleveland browns. This is a tough question for me. Give me the cleveland browns. Because i liked the way they play football as it pertains to the play offs. Gimme the team. That can run the ball in the top. Three when it comes to rushing offense. Give me the team. That's top six and turnover differential. Obviously they are number six and the team that can stop the run reasonably well but most importantly the browns are six in one in one score games. Browns are about to be a have to play in the wild card around. I told you just yesterday. Every wild card game last year was a one score game every single. So what's going to happen again this year. Oh let's is it going to say who every day all fordham games last year or teams that played in games were decided about one point less and i know in the nfl. Fifty two percent of games at aside and at one point one possession. And i know in the nfl. Fifty two percent of games that aside about one possession less then give me the team that has six seven games. A season decided by one possession or less. Oh that was week Let's talk about team. Only three losses issue you know who they lost two of that. Afc championship game from last year. Who was the net. Kansas city and tennessee and we only got one more lost in it and that was a hail mary by arizona that we only lose to the hot teams in the conference off last year's play so i don't understand how this is really a conversation other than just a loyalty argument. I want to wait cleveland. If they had a winning record against the taints but they. Don't we've seen pittsburgh remember thirty. Eight to seven beat them member baltimore game first game this year beat down. And then even baltimore. You gotta wait. For lamar jackson to cramp or number two. Whatever he had to deal with for you finally their creep into a game. That felt like a blowout was coming. So i just don't see you guys matching up against teams tennessee. Gimme that half. I give you that. Both internet what i do see. Is this notice in the playoffs. Anything can go crazy. Remember josh allen in the playoff probably would have helped him to be a little bit more love because he had no touchdowns i think three took three sacks and just mckay yada all right. now. What baker mayfield. I told you confidence. It precedes his success clearly. Baker mayfield's not a better quarterback than josh allen but in the playoffs when anything can happen whether be bad regardless of where you play and more than likely in the afc teams with playing in bad weather. Gimme the quarterback that is confident. Beyond reason. that's baker mayfield and then brown coming up. We'll go jimmy ain't done talk about what you wear. Might what else he has to say next. You don't miss shirt louisville pepper while we go. Jimmy joys were pretty hard on james harden but i hear you have more to get off their chests. Let's hear it. Is it for the love boat a remember back in the day when you and your girl will get into argument. She make you so mad. You storm out the house jump in the car get ready to burn river up the street and suddenly you realize you left your keys in the house okay. Can you gotta go back in the house. Little crazy craziest here with their dumb ass. Look on your face. And what has james harden took last night during that press conference. James harden looked like that dude at work. Quit on friday and air body but didn't show back through. Hey miss russell westbrook more than he's ever know right about now. James harden learned the definition of what it means to have to pull his own weight. 'cause right and thinks he's official big baller. Okay that's the real reason. He wants to go to miami. Hang with the rafters that have strippers smoke blunts. He wants to go down to miami to hang out with the rappers. Got the personal chef. This the turkish hardness outgrown the he wants to hang out with people grow that joke. Dj talent foxborough we're lockdown.

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Divisional Round Sunday Recap: Chiefs complete crazy comeback, Packers escape Seahawks (Football 1/13)

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Divisional Round Sunday Recap: Chiefs complete crazy comeback, Packers escape Seahawks (Football 1/13)

"What's up everybody while fix podcast. Evs Sports daily NFL podcast. I'M WE'LL Brinson I'm your host this Sunday divisional round recap I would encourage you to head. Onto the feed you can check out Saturday's divisional round recap where myself and the super friends look at the bow to two games shocking. Upset from the titans over the Ravens And of course the San Francisco Forty niners beating on the Vikings analysis for those two games in the feed also because we never stopped working. There's an emergency podcast. I forgot what happened. I feel like forty two hours ago. But it was Kevin's defence key hired by the Cleveland browns. That's in the feet as well coming up this week. We'll have Jonathan Jonathan Jones recording on Monday night. We're GonNa do Winners and losers from the coaching searches now that all the spots are filled. That'll be up Tuesday and I guess we do a Brady Quinn football for Wednesday. Yeah Yeah we will piano piano for now though. We got a breakdown these also. I had to skip it because I had. CBS Sports H.. HQ duties but John Breach hosted. The Youtube exclusive where we look ahead to the championship. We can lines only three games of football. f-folks got to get that money or lose it. If you're following my picks in the playoffs John Breach was hosting. It's up on YouTube dot com slash. CBS Sports I mean everybody who listen to this podcast. It was just taking another victory. LAP ON SEAN and Ryan hearing that type of stuff definitely wasn't Sean is making a face Sean. I didn't WANNA rub your face in the fact that the titans are going to win next week also a little sneak peak. But I'm done talking now breach. You can't take a victory eight thirty lap before the Games are played already taken. I've taken three take. He took him to by the way the best part of that little sneak. Peek Brenston Sean and I both I feel like the titans are probably not going to win the ballgame. It's seven and a half as we talk right now on Sunday breaches breaches during the little baby clay travis thing where he's leaning into it right but the Ba- here's the best thing so I go and I say why I think the titans are gonNA lose to the to the mighty chiefs and and Sean even doubles down and says that the chiefs are even going to cover that seven and a half and here comes breach marching in very happy with himself because listen guys I live in Nashville. I picked the titans against the Patriots. I picked the titans against the Ravens and I think the titans they might cover this game he goes. I'm not gonNA say now if they're going to win I haven't decided did Breach are you getting like. Are you getting heat in and I mean this isn't a good way or are you getting heat for. I like picking the titans and for being from Nashville because like when the panthers made their playoff run. You know like I don't even like I mean like he's not like at at the facility every day or you know even at the stadium ever but like I don't live in Charlotte but when the panthers made the Super Bowl run I would be getting like. Oh we're going to get on. Because the panthers catheters man it was it was good for my brand is what I'm saying. How's your brand performing relative to the titans renaissance here? Well if Darren Karen rebel was on the podcast he would say my brand my cue rating have shot up this week and I would like to think not just the titans but also the Baltimore Ravens because the Baltimore Ravens singled me out on their website on Wednesday and and they do a tally up. Everyone's picks and they said of forty eight per agnostic indicators that we looked at this week forty seven of them picked us to win the only person who did not take the Baltimore Ravens Win. Is John Breach of CBS sports. So so then. I had ravens fans in my twitter. Feed the rest of the week. My twitter feed says. I live in Nashville so being accused of being a homer and I have to think I would have picked the titans whether or not I lived in Nashville. Because I've lived here two years. It's not I would say the only advantage I have living here is. I've probably watched the titans play more than anyone. Anyone else in the national media at least because most people are most people's radar. They're not a team. You're watching all the time. But they were always on my local television. TV So so. I was always aware it was going to watch everything. Tannehill did so I just I think I realize how good they were but yes picking titans to win two straight games and I don't really think anyone anyone else pick them to beat the ravens has helped the brand. The breach brand is aiming up the Dow Jones Right. Now it's up to twenty nine thousand reach branded up sixty nine thousand very nice chiefs fifty one texans thirty one first game what again. We're recording this at eleven o'clock clock somehow mercifully recording us at eleven o'clock. There's two games I I would not have thought that the day was gonna in that quickly based on sort of how it started and the coaching coaching higher. And then the the insanity of the Texans chiefs I mean what a game one unbelievable gave. I was texting with some friends. And we're like the second second half I believe of the Texans chiefs game featured almost thirty total points. That sound right to you guys. Maybe more thirty thirty points even. That's a Lotta points. That's all right. We can agree. That's a lot of points. It felt boring. It was the most boring thirty points I've ever seen in my life because the end of the first half was the craziest ish. That's ever. It was bananas. This is A. N. A. N. S.. Thank you Ryan. shonky discerning look for craziest Est.. It was the Texas the the Texas the Texas jumped out to a twenty four to nothing lead. They were beating the chiefs. Twenty twenty four to nothing in Arrowhead with ten fifty eight remaining in the second quarter and they went into halftime trailing twenty eight to twenty four. All Hail Patrick Mahomes as the Texans became the first team. NFL postseason history. The trail by twenty twenty points in the game and win a game by twenty points. Anyway Sean. I think a lot of people WANNA make this about bill. O'Brien the Texans gagging coming to me. It's about the chiefs. Yeah I mean so. There's a lot made of Bill O'Brien's decision the Hiccup field goal on fourth and inches at the thirteen yard line. Go twenty four nothing and then. There was a lot of head scratching about his decision to run a fake punt on the next drive. The chiefs snuffed out with the beautiful tackle. The fact of the matter is that those who plays actually don't really matter when you're giving up fifty one points like I just like the Texans were never in my mind Guinness Score fifty points on the chiefs defense events and what you were saying that there are thirty points scored in that second half and it was still boring. The reason it felt boring is this. The Muslim saint thing is that the twenty four nothing and I swear when they scored the second touchdown to make it twenty four fourteen. Every single person in the world was waiting game by double digits. He's sorry interrupting up to because I was just reading through our slack conversations as this was happening live so at four. Oh five twenty four. By the way. This is going to be a long two and a half hours for the Texans Fan. It's twenty four nothing at this point. That's an ass open but as soon as the chiefs score you know. There's always a chance Brinson said right when it's twenty four or twenty one all of a sudden you're rethinking everything. The game still twenty four. Nothing this point then it becomes twenty four fourteen and I go game and then Sean writes chiefs by Twenty One. When it's twenty four? Fourteen in Brinson goes four fifteen. It's twenty four fourteen. She's leading at halftime. We're wrong and the chiefs one by twenty would have been twenty one of Buck. Doesn't miss an extra point who's sounds good point out of the job. I I don't I don't I don't totally agree with you on the two. I don't totally agree with you on the idea that the the two decisions by Bill. O'Brien did matter. I think if they had gone for the fourth day I think they should've gone for the fourth down up twenty one. Nothing I understand why kicked in. I understand that it's you can you. You can go both ways on it. You want to put the points on the board. You got a twenty four. Nothing lead if I'm looking at the chiefs and I know what I've seen for Patrick Mahomes like what was it two or something like that where they threw threw up twenty. Eight points against the raiders in one quarter. You know what they can. Do you know what your defense is. I I I think the not kicking kicking a field goal. I think what's horrible horrible decisions. I'm not excusing. I actually don't mind the fake punt to be honest but still bryant set up to the game I knew we had to get the fifty two beaten beat them. It's the inconsistency inconsistency in those decisions he should've went for that fourth and inches to and that's what I would say in a vacuum. I like the fake pie and I don't like the field goal but when you you combine it together. It didn't make any sense because I felt like he kicked the field goal because he didn't want to give the chiefs the momentum swing of possibly making a huge fourth in one stock because all of a sudden it's like oh we stopped them. Their offense gets on the field probably goes down and scores. That's huge so he's saying let's take the points. Let's not risk the momentum swing and then you move to the fake punt which is the exact opposite logic. Where hey if we don't get this they get the ball the thirty yard line and they're probably gonNA score no matter what so it didn't it didn't and feel like he was working with the same part of his brain? What he's making these decisions? But that's Bill O'Brien so maybe we shouldn't be surprised and the other thing about the fake punt too so I think in the fourth fourth-down they go out there and they're about to go for it and then he calls a time out and he's like no we're gonNA kick and then on the fake punt. They went out there and they were like hesitating and hesitating if they'd snapped snapped it right away. It's a first down and look all credit in the world of Daniel Sorensen because that's a really hard open-field tackle to make and he got all over the guy locked down and but and like the second that you you saw tackle them and I think the cameras there. CBS cameras are not all over. Couldn't see if you can tell ws getting the game but like a suzy realize down you're like now it's twenty four. Fourteen Nike it is it is twenty four fourteen day Sir. This point out the other twenty four points that the chiefs get the Texans scored in the I guess nineteen minutes of the game. So the first touchdown touchdown came on their opening drive but he was a fifty four yard. Touchdown passed Shawn Watson. Kenny stills beautifully beautifully designed by Bill. O'Brien what they did. They had third in like five. I think in four what I think it was the third one stern short for sure. Okay all right. I was thinking that it was third and one at forty-six or even better third one third and one of the forty six. They did a fakes screen. And what happened was if you watch it. They played guitar in in Matthew Aggressiveness. Knowing that the Texas trying to drink and Dunkin eat up clock. Honey Badger comes. Flying in it. Leaves can still wide open is a beautiful call. Great call they also the first play. The game was a screen on that exact same alignment so the eight at that complete reserve. Yeah it was a great place like no. I'm not taking away from that but like you know. That's a good chess move. The second touchdown came after Patrick mahomes through to traverse Kelsey Kelsey on third and seven is. I mean there's no excuse for dropping drops opposite the next plays a blocked punt to the house. Texans were up fourteen. Nothing for whatever reason Andy Reid sort of panic there a little bit and he put tyreek Hill back to return punts. He's Ah Great Punt returner has done a lot. Career only has one this year he must punt Texas score played two or three plays later Darren fouls on a touchdown pass. It's twenty one. Nothing and that was when it was like. Oh my you like what is happening here and I just WANNA throw in remember. The last game we all watched was titans ravens so it kind of felt like. Oh my God. Is this actually going to happen. It wasn't even these places that the chiefs dropped five passes in the first. Ah Five minutes because I ten passes were dropped and then and breach to add on to your similarity point here. tyreek Hill took a huge shot on like a play down the field and and it was like Oh my God. This is the exact same game like this is happening over and over again right tyreek. Alison Patrick Mahomes is missing this huge weapon. The titans free up at the federal because they have been double teaming him for most of the game so now you have another defender on the field and the other part. Is that blocked for a touchdown. That doesn't happen. Travis Kelsey catches that ball and third and six hit him right in the hands. They get a first down. They keep moving. He dropped it all of a sudden. They're putting the punk gets blocked. And I think what three or four or five drops came on third down so it was just just like Oh my God that chiefs are choking. That's what it felt like up to where you got it. The twenty one nothing Brenton and then you know. We talked about the field goal and O'Brien decisions but at twenty one. Nothing it just felt like this is a classic Andy Reid chiefs game where everything that could go wrong can go wrong. He should change his Eddie Murphy. Because it's Murphy's law just chiefs football all is Murphy's law in the playoffs but then switched everything. You're putting your hand up Sean. tyreek hill thing. Did you feel like oh no no. I was going to point without that. Their drive ended again. Because of drop them third down from demarcus Robinson. And then Andy Reid punted on fourth and four fourth and five around like the forty five yard line. I believe in that they were already fourteen. Nothing at the time and it was like why are you putting the ball back. It's GonNa take the Texans three plays to get down there and it took them four place they get down there and then they gotta stop punit and then Tyreek Hill muffs surrounded the chiefs finished. This is kind of hilarious. Do you know without looking. Do not look in. Do you know what the cheese finish wish on third down. Oh no substrate touchdown finish on third down. Two of eight just never had to deal with third down there. They were seven seven of eight in the red zone. Two to eight on third down. That's I don't know that I've seen that like now this crazy. We'll say to follow would breach. She's talking about in terms of how it looked. Felt sort of like the Titans Ravens game at no point. Did I feel like the titans. Were in sort of trouble trouble of having the Ravens get red hot like ultimately the chiefs did and we just read are sort of conversations are text conversations when it was twenty one to nothing twenty four. Nothing you knew that the Texans knew that this was going to be a very long game even with forty five minutes ago. A twenty four point lead. And you knew the Bill O'Brien. Dan was going to do something that left. You wondering what what's he doing. I had no issues with the fake punt. As you point out. Brenton and remote said it's like fifteen times. If you run the fake they quickly you get it because Sorenson had to make shoestring tackle those probably the best tackle of his life. He is fantastic. Timing I don't know why you do go kick an important one. In retrospect that's idea. He said that he wanted somebody. Said after the game paraphrasing he wanted to go for it he just didn't have a place for it which which makes absolutely no sense. He didn't say that did have a fourth and inches. Play ready to go the whole week. So they 'cause they were lined up to go before they call timeout and something changed and he said he didn't have a play he liked. Okay well I appreciate his honesty but that's a terrible coaching. I mean that's the day that's what it comes comes down to because you're up thirty one nothing and you still lose by twenty or whatever but the point is I mean it changes things. It changes things a lot because then we talk about them up thirty kill then the other end after the starting red hot the Texans month upon I think it was Carter. What what he doing or is it a kick return whatever it was Carter I think? Source Harder when Carter Muffin fat. That was the this. They're winning by twenty. Yeah by the way. Here's Patrick Mahomes on facing that. Massive deficit do they had to deal with. Obviously we didn't want to be in that in that spot but the biggest thing I yeah I think I was preaching to the team was. Let's go do something special Let's go do something special everybody's already countless out Let's just go play by play and just put our best effort out there. I I mean obviously As a team we had everything had the right way but I thought the defense stepped up especially team stepped up all offensively. We started making the place. We weren't making a play by play. We we just chip away at that lead and then got the half and came out second half and kept firing. I'll say this to like with the chiefs versus the Ravens. I felt like the Ravens could come back but the tide had such a better game plan for how to handle the in the ravens are not the same team as the chiefs. They just aren't aren't like and that's why as good as Lamar Jackson is and as good as high as big as his upside is. If you're if you're starting team you're taking Patrick Mahomes. especially if you compare with Andy Reid and those weapons because they did that effortlessly and look. The titans are much better defense. I think then then what the Texans are and. They had a much better game plan for the Ravens. I don't know. Do you think that the if the if the if the situation was similar and it was a titan chiefs in the Texans the ravens could the ravens of comeback and could the teaser. I think that she's going to come back. I'll say this about just because we were talking about how once it it was twenty four nothing than twenty four at twenty four seven. We all thought the chiefs were coming back to win this game and I was worried about the titans on Saturday night until they scored the third third quarter and put it up. Twenty one to six point. You had a good feel for what the Ravens could do against them. And in my head I was like twenty six is a win. This raven the ravens cap move the ball or if they you know they don't have the titans had a good game plan and at no point. Did you feel that about the Texans. Because it felt like a lot of the Texans what they did was look like a punt for a touchdown I mean yes. There's obviously skilling ball but that's a lot of walk there a muffed punt by tyreek hill. That's luck you didn't control tyreek dropping. The fumble sets sets two touchdowns that they got kind of pure walk and so it didn't really feel like that. They were destroying the chiefs even though they had gotten up. Twenty Four. Nothing yes yeah I mean like I was going to say to like the Titans had a very firm game plan in place they were going to. They were able to clog up the middle title and stop the run and they were able to force Lamar Jackson to throw outside. Well you force Patrick Mahomes a threat and he's just going to complete passes outside like that's not you're not my do lead the team in rushing southern Russia's fifty three yards they had after they had pulled off the comeback. Because I know this because I had I did this weird parlay. Hey with mahomes should hit. It was really brutal Mahal. Mahomes over passing are attracted easily to Shawn Watson. Ever passing yards which it Damian Williams Carey's which was over twelve and a half he finished well Davey was rushing are over fifty six and a half he finished. forty-seven like it was. It's like five to one deadly. It definitely should've hit but the I was stunned. Because I looked down with Damian Williams who that rushing touchdown and he had I think like eight carries for two yards and one rushing touchdown. It was a very bizarre line. And that's the thing. The Kansas City is different is they can't abandon the run and pass all over you and that's when they're at their best. I'm not I'm not going to the argument that like Oh cheese twenty four. Nothing was a good thing but in a weird way it it kind of force eighty read to be incredibly aggressive. It'd be like we're not going to hand the ball off the Demon Williamson first and ten. We're just going to throw the ball and the only time so your credit. The rea the the reason why Damian Williams had that is the only time he carried the ball is when they got them to the one yard line and then it made sense to run the ball to put it into perspective. How Fastest Game Flip? The chiefs scored three touchdowns in the second quarter in three minutes and thirty seconds of game time the only eight plays and eighty one yards and part because for as bad as your special teams were in that first quarter. The game kind of changed after the Texans a settled for that field goal to twenty four. Nothing hardman ripped off a huge return. Turn and that for me. What kind of felt like also like a turning point and it's like okay like now? It seems like they've settled. Now you're seeing their playmakers actually do what we see them. Do all season and I I think it took them like three plays to them to Kelsey for them to get into the end zone. I think Andy Reid actually agrees the these are things that we haven't done. I mean that's not us right so It was just a matter of settling down and kind of common calm in the storm and making sure that our guys You know knocked whatever brewster whatever often calm down plays you know so. We've been doing that all year and it was important that we got back to doing that. So we had dropped balls and couple missed missed tackles and then the drop punt return so we had the block you know on the on the kicks on the pont there so for a score so there are things that we that's not us and it was just a matter of every kind of settling down and get right so we did that and he would add. It had a big return and you could tell it sparked up to and then call her return and get the touchdown they flipped it. I mean the Watson cut it to ten in the second half it. It didn't feel like it to reach credit. He kept throwing. We'll see that's the thing about being down twenty four nothing like I don't think he kept. I don't think that that Dr after the Shawn Watson cut it to ten happened with twenty four seconds left in the third quarter yet it was a four minute. Fifteen second nine play play seventy five yard five first down drive and they almost had stopped and then he hit Will Fuller Your Kenny. Stills calls or one of the receivers down down the left side of the field for a big gain sets them up they get the touchdown and that point like up ten with a quarter to go. I feel like Andy Reid. If he hadn't been down twenty four nothing probably would have tried to eat up clock. Because that's what what Andy Reid does. And he believes he can March methodically. He said No. Thank you any took four. Play seventy two yard one minute and thirty two second drive life to go back up seventeen which was a very like visits been. That was cute. That was cute. This is officially over. And that's what it felt like Ryan Shotton coaching. This chief team continued to run the ball down twenty four nothing and they would they would have lost fifty one to nothing and I think I will talk about it in a little bit but I think that's sort of what's probably angers Vance who aren't cheese fans in this playoffs and they lost because yeah the funny thing is before the game. Bill Cower sat down with Andy Reid and was sort of talking to him about being in the playoffs what it means hiking win and he showed him a car of the last four games James Three losses and one win the win. He ran the ball a bunch of times and bills. Like look man. Just run the ball and you win this game and I think as you point out the twenty four nothing helped any reading not even have to think about that as a possibility in terms of strategy aired out when you were Patrick mahomes and he's healthy. By the way I was like do quit running because I'm afraid your kneecaps Gov. Wow but when you have patrick mahomes out there. Every play is basically running play because he can throw side arm to in the flat and the running back and gained five yards the title game five yards. And you're still moving the ball. You're not running into the middle of the field into a pile of humanity and it's been much more efficient. That's not to say well. Derrick Henry does is not important for what the titans which is that for off until Patrick Mahomes. It doesn't make sense necessarily run the ball twenty five times just because you're one run the ball twenty five times so Patrick Mahomes hadn't expected is expected. Completion percentage if it's negative. Do we put that on. The receivers are on their quarterback on the quarterback quarterback who's actually completion percentage was lower than expected. Completion percentage USA. Little bit surprising. That's an action stat. Says it hasn't been seventy-one maybe it is on the. Everyone always references as a quarterback staff know. His completion percentage was lower than his expected. His expected would have been what if all his receivers receivers would've caught passes right yes he's expected. Completion percentage of seventy one point to what was his actual completion for sixty five points so he had a better game he was plus six. Yeah yes okay. Five five and a half percent more greater completion percentage like if his receivers devers had caught the ball. And I don't know I think look the chiefs had the best possible. I mean that was the that was the the true horror of all this. Is that the chiefs going into this. Game is the first game on Sunday. We knew the Ravens even have been eliminated. The titans are waiting on one side and the forty niners or the packers slash seahawks as it turns out the packers forty niners or packers are waiting in the super bowl. They can get past. Ask the titans. Andy Reid is the is what Phil Mickelson was until they want us first major. He's the best coach without Super Bowl probably in NFL history. He's he's Dan Marino right now. Alif coaching and he's always had to operate like he's I mean somebody like the NFC the NFC all his good. It was a tough tough Ron Ron. When he was there on that side the coaching around and double check exists? So that's sort of a problem to win the Super Bowl right. And it's been a problem for the chiefs in the in the AFC and he finally got the Pun intended. Red Sea parted for him here and it felt like he was giving it all away and I feel like that's a big plus to come back from that looking and be like you know what effort like. We're going to go and just play ball. I didn't feel like he was other than three hill. Punt Return. Turn thing which you mentioned. I don't feel like he panicked because this is sort of what happened. A few years ago and the season-opener End Gillette Stadium when they got down cream hunt. I think fumbling is very I carry. He never fumbled in college and they methodically came back and that was without Smith. I believe I don't think Patrick Mahomes is planning to that point. And they whooped the the Patriots in Gillette Stadium Week. One one Andy Reid and everything and he hasn't seen twenty four. Nothing I think he felt like okay. That's Bill Brian over there. That's not bill so that's strike like one in my favor and you know I have passion for home. He's not bad. And it worked itself out much quicker than I think. Anyone imagined Certainly Bill O'Brien and probably any read but light on twenty four. Nothing as we've been sort of saying didn't feel insurmountable in the same way. Had the titans been up twenty four. Nothing you sort of felt like the Ravens. The way they were playing work on what they they weren't gonNA come back so I get into regret for not overreacting and a lot of times. You see coaches sorta just crap their pants and I don't think bill. Brian crapped his pants. I mean that's what China does not knowing like not literally right in fourth one. That's a problem but in general. I thought he's coach. Worst I games but Yeah credited any refer not melting. So let's cover the conversation because it's it's Chiesa Titans it. It is not I was a little wary of like jerking about what our boss's boss's one on twitter. Because you don't want somebody to be there was like it. We're very towards Texans Titans and you're like you can just imagine the scene like a CBS CBS executive office. where it's like? We thought we were getting the marble homes and like just look Shawn Watson is awesome and Derek jeter superstar and that's an Alabama clemson thing Ryan. Tannehill is incredible story but but like I mean like relative of to Mahomes in the Mar.. Getting Dad is is a full blown disaster right yes yes I think we can all say that it felt like that was happening. Now instead we have titans and chiefs. I don't think those markets are enormous and it's not as good as Baltimore versus versus Kansas City. But I still think it's a pretty compelling matchup mainly because of what went down with the titans taking down the Ravens and then the chiefs looking vulnerable before putting on this incredible show that like you just couldn't wouldn't miss so how. How does this look reach? How does this game kickoff The teaser seven and a half seven point favorites. I think it opened up at like nine and a half just got smashed down to seven bump back up to seven and a half the over under was fifty one and is now fifty two. What do you think about this game and sort of how it plays? He's out advantages. Built in for this. Well how you talk yourself into picking the titans bumps that's a great question Brennan Real quick on what you said about the overall TV rematch from that perspective is that there's been so much domination and it's been so one side in the AFC for so long with Tom. Brady Peyton Manning Ben Rothlisberger than I do think the intriguing part here is is that you never get it scrappy underdog out of the AFC. You don't have the succeed running through the steelers two thousand five but that's it you know that's fourteen years ago so I think people will be inclined to watch us because you have the titans who are a curiosity and then you have the chief's Patrick Mahomes. So I do think people this. This is definitely better than than Texans. Titan's probably not as good as chief savings as you said but here is I think a lot of people also don't know is that these teams played earlier this season and the titans won. What one of the craziest games all year? Because look you look at the box score. If you told someone that Patrick Mahomes threw for four hundred forty six yards three touchdowns zero throw interceptions. You would assume cheese probably won that game. I'm thinking and this was back in week. Ten Titans won thirty five to thirty two. And and here's what happened with. Derrick Henry ran wild. He ran for one hundred. Eighty eight yards in two touchdowns in that game no one will be surprised if that happens in the AFC championship game. And then I know we've talked a lot about well. WHAT IF YOU KINDA Slow Henry Down Ryan Tannehill gotTa do something and Ryan Tannehill? Did do something that gave me through one hundred. Eighty one yards and two touchdowns and I think we all remember because we talked about. It was his game winning. Drive the foreplay sixty one yard drive with under a minute. Twenty left where the Titans were trailing thirty to twenty seven they had to get a touchdown. They couldn't even get a field goal. He drove him straight down. Kansas City throat got that game winning touchdown the Mahomes took welcome back. Set Him up over the next block. So these teams literally went toe to toe with their best foot forward in that game. So I mentioned mahomes numbers tyreek Hill Okada Levin passes for one hundred and fifty seven yards and a touchdown Travis Kelsey seven passes seventy five yards and a touchdown like every offensive player. You would expect. Put up huge numbers. I missed that game. There was no defense. I kind of expect that and I know a lot of people think that. Hey if if the chiefs put up thirty or forty points. The titans don't have have a chance to them so I think it's going to be a close game and I was surprised that the point spread was seven points but that titans win was in Nashville around. Obviously this game is in Kansas City Brenton. Won't you tell us because you were on Youtube. Exclusively your big time and it's where you sit on I. I was Doing the CBS Sports Cutic- sorry. My dog has awoken from his slumber of the couch. And he's trying to decide if he wants to harass asked me to get on the bed or not up here. the I lean towards. I can't fade the chiefs. I mean I think I probably like. Here's the thing. I mentioned how the the Ravens Game Played Out and I hope people listened to me. Because I didn't listen to me and I lost a bunch of money on the Ravens when I should have been hammering the titans once they got up big I. I think that the difference between the Titans and the Texans is that if the titans were up twenty four nothing on the chiefs to Titans could impose their will physically in the run game with Derrick Henry. Now the difference. A huge difference is that Christians should be back next week. You hurt like the last five minutes of the final practice that was of of major factor. I think and what you know. That is the calf injury. No we don't know but I would assume an extra week arrested. Be Able to give it a go. I think it was pretty close. It was sort of a surprise inactive Jaisalmer as Palmer the NFL network. Reported at the last minute so I I would guess that we out there if he does. That's a huge help to the defensive line that would be a big benefit against derrick. Henry If the chiefs come out and come out hot and put up points against the titans defense in the first quarter. It's over. They will win by twenty four plus points because is I think the titans are good. I really do. I think played awesome. I think Derrick Henry special running back their defense is good enough to stop Lamar Jackson accent. I don't think it's good enough to slow down. The weapons of the chiefs have and so to me a lot hinges on who wins at first quarter in terms of that seven and a half point spread. The problem is like like this is the same thing with the Texan game. I was texting. Feels like I. I don't WANNA I don't WanNa miss the chiefs. Come out and score on there. I I don't want to miss out on the nine and a half because it's going to go to fifteen immediately if they score it in on the action when it was plus six and a half no I had put so much down when it was minus four and a half it might as one in half that is getting a little scary Detection scored wants I was like. That's what they say. The thin detection escort again. I was like hammer then. It was like the Texas three times I was like okay. Maybe we should just like because the ravens gave us a maybe just take a breath. Maybe just deactivate this live betting thing and all of our second But the Yeah I mean like I think a lot depends on how it starts. Just ask the question to all three of you because I know John Johnny Nashville as I called them on the Youtube a tube exclusive. What happens if there is tired? I mean he he might be like worn out. I mean this week. Nineteen twenty wherever however on he just ran for four million yards. The last two weeks he had to play every snap of every about those winds and understandably so if he's tired or he needs a break break or he's not one hundred percent and you're leading. Leon Dan Lewis. That's a terrible plan B.. I mean Ryan Tannehill enough to take anything from we do talk him up but we. We do sort of considered him second class citizens to Derrick Henry but is there any concerns at their country. Won't be one hundred percent that he might be. You know physically exhausted from put him on his back for two weeks. No I would say that since So for the past eight games he has gotten. I mean he's been they're Belco all all season for the past eight games. He's gone over one hundred. It's been averaging like one hundred six hundred seventy yards and they just keep feeding them so you think if that was going to happen happened we would've seen a little bit of against the Ravens because you're playing the Patriots defense. They hit hard. He took a lot of hits against New England. That was a game where you got thirty four carries and he was coming coming off a week. Seventeen game against the Texans or he got thirty two carries so he got beat up. But don't forget that he did sit out that week. Sixteen game against the saints so okay got a two week break. He got his own little personal by because he's dealing with a nagging injury So you know he came into week. Seventeen the wild card and divisional round fresh so breath and he's gotten thirty cares or more in all of those games so I don't think the titans are worried about that. They're canneries twenty-six. He seems like you know if he's thirty. I'm worried about that but I think that will be an issue but if he gets injured that's different. That's a problem. So by the way Sean. I'm curious your thoughts but I wanna point out that for the first time since two thousand listen to we will have a new. AFC Super Bowl quarterback bravery and Peyton Brady. He Been Peyton Peyton Brady flacco slash on Tanna Payton Brady Payton Brady Brady Brady. I think that coming into the playoffs we probably most of us would have Predicted that was going to be the case. We probably thought it was going to be lumbar. Mahomes and not tannehill or more homes. Look I think he's GonNa win this game and cover and that's take anything away from Tannehill who look. I ranked him as the fifth best quarterback coming into the playoffs and I had incredible regular season. You can just run down to every single statistical category category whether it's yours for completion percentage passer rating. He was incredible. I think he had like the best. STATISTICAL SEASON TURNS EFFICIENCIES SINCE JOE Montana a big difference between the fifth best quarterback fashionable homes obviously different stratosphere. I don't think anyone here would disagree with that. The chiefs defense has been bad against run all year. I will note that since they played the titans which was in week ten. The have been a lot better against the run and I know total yards against can be very deceiving. That's just dictated if you're winning the game. The other teams talking to be running the ball. But here's their yardage week that they've allowed it on the ground. Ninety three one twenty two ninety four four fifty two one zero one eight and then the Texans did not run the ball very well ninety four yards again. A lot of that is the reason. They're winning but that's what I that's precisely the reason why I think that she's going to win. This game by seven points is because I think they are going to get off to a big lead. I think if you look at what they did against the Texans the Texans do it and came to stop the it was entirely the chiefs. Were stopping themselves. And I think a lot of that seemed like it was just jitters with all those drop passes. I don't think you're gonNA see that again against now. The you you know the rest has been knocked off. And they came out on fire in the second half in the second quarter and so I think they're going to get a big and strength to this chiefs defense is against against the past so and I love what Tannen who's done i. Just don't think keeping up with Mahomes is a different ballgame. That doing what he's done for all the season again that's not to take anything away from what the titans have done on. I think you're right Brinton. If for some reason the Titans Q.. Get off to lead at the end of the first quarter. I still think the chiefs win but I wouldn't pick them to cover but I just think think assuming the chiefs don't meltdown withdraw passes dumb mistakes on special teams which they haven't done all season long as as rebutted. They were the best special teams. I think by giving me away. I think they'll be fine. Yeah they were the number one special teams unit in the In the League. Do you Did you guys get a chance to listen to bill. O'Brien Brian at all. Because he asked he was he was sort of like. I don't know if you watch his press conference. I was watching it on Hugh. I've never seen anyone give less the crap about the fact that he gave up fifty one points in the playoff games. I and like what are you like. He'd like he does the voice of a man in who frankly is his own boss. Say It's on you. You have to coach better off like this fifty one points housework. Yes I think we got. We definitely have to go up. We didn't do enough to put our guys positions position to make place. We definitely have to do a better job coaching. I mean it's weird to see like I don't i. Don't blame him a whole lot of that. You just the lost the chiefs fifty one points. What are you GONNA do? What do you think Ryan about? The Texans Outlook moving forward I will quote to you a tweet from. ESPN's Jerry Fowler. You put this. He's a very mild mannered reporter spending. ESPN for awhile. He's got the steelers for the browns. Here's what he tweeted. Good thing the Texans. Excuse me good thing. The Texans can improve that defense with their next first round draft pick and twenty twenty two so the Laremy Tunsil trade they they give it to first round picks for that. That's what they're living. The office of line was better than that but to John Wants to hold about long. That is fixed the defense as Jeremy tweeted about and that was a huge issue. Yes there were injuries this point. Everyone's injured on every team. So you're you're playing with the depth you've created by building roster as you mentioned Brenton. The coach of the Texans is also the general manager. And I think he's still has a few more years left in this deal and now his job gets infinitely more difficult because not only is he the head coach coach. He is the general manager. He's got a free agency contracts he's got to do with the draft. He's got to do all that while. Trying to figure out how to fix this team and make them able to compete for sixty minutes against the chiefs. I don't think anyone would say that. They had a bad season. I think they had a really good season. All things considered but at the end of the day they have a lot of things picks and they don't have a lot of ways to fix them at some liquor pessimistic. Take what's your take Johnny. I agree okay. What do you think the I think the titans are now gonNa if Tannahill is going to stay there? And Derrick Henry can sustain thirty carries a gala lay two years. Though be good and the colts are you. Are you personally offended that I keep joking. Basically and I'll I'll stop if your person what you don't think the titans are going to run that division for the next two or three years but and then you well let me finish Princeton. Then you can have the colts go outside. Philip Rivers rivers. Tom Brady will. They're the only division team from that division in the playoffs. which is all that matters because when you're division does it matter if you win the Super Bowl you don't have to win your division win the Super Bowl you don't run that division if you don't win the division and break what what is it with you in but you call me percent? I still don't understand why you consider him a non person me I just. I just think that the colts could find a better quarterback. And there's able this year that is my take and so. I think the colts editor quarterback they're going to be a team of you. Reckon can with and I don't know about Jacksonville so I think you can look at a spot where Houston is possibly Ryan. You just you just all the Houston Texans problems and I'm saying they might be the third the best team in that division next. Let me ask you guys this question. When do you think the Texans first pick in the upcoming draft is what number overall pick which before? Now it's GonNa be Lauren that maybe like eighty three right. Yeah I was GONNA say two eight three one hundred never. It's actually fifty eight. But they have one they only have one pick in the top one hundred fifty eight. That's a problem that that's probably. Yeah that's problematic. When you have that by the way to Shawn Watson was asked about his coach he definitive doubt? But there's no doubt I love that man on a play hard for that man and say whatever you want to say you know so through other media and other writing but quarterback he's screwing me my heart and he's GonNa get ten percent every time I step on I feel so I can say whatever but I'm always be for that man and then go play off. Is that like Stockholm Syndrome or something. I just seemed like too short. Sean I think Watson incredibly smart and he's a really good quarterback but I like I said I said it's on the podcast or we talked off air about it when Bill O'Brien was captured by. TMZ going crazy on that fan. After the Broncos game and another season that ended up losing at halftime and he was dropping f bombs and just going crazy on the fan. who was you know? Twenty to thirty feet above them in the stands actually had more respect for bill. O'Brien because he's sticking up for his players. He shows studies passionate and players are actually pulling them off to get into the locker room because he was going crazy and I think maybe that's that's coming from when you hear Sean. Say those things like this guy. He's invested in what we're doing. He's clearly one hundred percent all in. Yeah he doesn't get every play right. Who Does but but it's not like something you would here with the giants and Pat Shurmur or certainly the browns and Freddie Kitchens? They seem to have bill Bryant back and like I said Ed they clip actually like made me like him more if I were him I wouldn't have apologized like he had to do days later. I actually think the Biller Brian. I have a weird feeling like I. It's hard hard to explain. I think he's a good coach and I think he's a good. I think that his problems extend more to the fact that he has now taking all this power in Houston and he's running the ship and that he's the general factor general manager and that is in game decision making his questionable. But I think in generally we're speaking he's a good coach he is one divisional titles with Brock. osweiler Brian. Hoyer I mean he's he's done some questionable stuff but every coach has I think he's a good good coach but I don't think he's not the like it's frustrating he's like Pete Carroll in the sense that he's like okay. Let's Mess around in P. Careless to Super Bowl appearances at Filbert is never going to do is suitable his ceilings divisional round the playoffs. He's like one step up from Marvin Louis US now on the road in the divisional round from Marvin Lewis to get your team to the playoffs. He's win the playoffs this year. The morning news does his career. Yeah he's also never made it past the divisional round. Even though he's won the division four times in the past five years. John I think Johnny National Choking King in the playoffs named Brenton's point is that he's a good coach. But when you put him in such a pressure situation crumbles p Carroll love some relatives which is an issue. I'd I'd say that's pretty key. Does he does the same thing with Sean that Pete Carroll does with Russell Wilson's at is the point that we're not talking about comparing their records and obviously p carroll is much better than that but p careless going on a fourth down no matter what he's Never GonNa go forth into he's GonNa kick field goals from fifty five yards an an and those things Dr Seahawks fans crazy. Yes yes great national title game and all that but I think he should be doing more than what he has done despite his glowing record on Monday night with people. People are listening to someone tonight on Monday. Night you're going to see a team that is predominantly for almost the course like the last fifteen years in Lsu never save it was there. There's been a run heavy team and this this year. They hired Joe Brady. They brought him in they uncorked in. NFL offense with Joe Borough and they. They broke the traditional mold of what they operate in. And just let left the quarterback loose and they're destroying everybody like bill. O'Brien could do that with the Shawn Watson he has the Andrew Hawkins Kenny stills and will fuller like cut it loose in and see with Ross like cut it loose. That's what bugs me about bill. O'Brien said he's way too conservative. So anyway that's the Texans. They have some issues to deal with but I think if if I were ranking king the team's best to worst in the AFC south in terms of position to succeed in the next year. In the future I would say Texans Titans Colts Jaguars down that. I think these too many different now. I think it's fair. I think it's fine. I mean I mean the bottom line is like the Texans Have Shawn Watson under contract and the time to pay Derrick Henry. We don't they they they can retain the tag team. We also don't know that Francis Tannahill play this year playing like a lot of like I would be hard pressed to believe he's GonNa play at this level for all of next season as Shawn Watson is a top five. You take him. If you're starting cofre. A franchise quarterback might be third behind our forth with Russ mahomes and Lamar it no way. Who's third Lamar you? If you wanted to take this on over Lamar would be okay with that you. What does your watching the Ravens? What would he be doing right now? He'd be sitting on the couch. Lamar break because this is like forty five minutes and when we come back we'll talk talk about the NFC side of something games. It's almost time for fantasy. Baseball draft's you need it resource. That's going to give you the best and most thorough advice. You need the fantasy baseball today. PODCAST we've been helping listeners. Win Their League's for more than a decade now out so if you want to dominate fantasy baseball download and subscribe to the fantasy baseball today. podcast anywhere you list all right on the other side of the bracket by the way I can't I thought we'd already done both games. I can't believe before hours and we still have to cover the second game. I I mean that first name was insane author normally. Were starting right now. Yeah that's true. This is like I mean we would have. I would have been at two thirty Saturday night without a sip of alcohol off. That's like I'm not gonNA make an analogy. It's going to be. It was going to be something involving living off surgeon and normal people make. I need to hear that one. That's my oxygen in shots analogy about Brenton's oxygen. Being alcohol was the was the seahawks packers game twenty eight twenty. Three victory for the Green Bay packers over Seattle Pretty surprisingly apprising lead dominant victory. I would get I guess you could say was that was that the first normal seahawks game was it Kevin Clark to tweet the seahawks would normal. I mean it felt fairly normal for seahawks game. There was no controversy at the end on the spot. There was a fumble that was questionable and play a scale of one to ten. Tim being the weirdest seahawks game. You see where you give it right. Yeah it's like a five. I thought if the SEAHAWKS and the next last very drive have been able to convert that and it started with number seventeen dropping the ball mel chest earner man that's brutal I do oh bleak tornadoes. One name is trending on twitter that was. Why isn't it on twitter the score? That's the thing because you knew you had the sense anyway okay. They moved the ball. There would have been around midfield. They had Four four minutes. I believe round to drive down to make up the five points and it was gonna be a rap because you see rusty this every week and what you also see is branch out and Emma run the ball of months in the first half they fall behind and then Russ has to do at rest does over the final forty minutes or so and you thought maybe okay maybe this time. They're playing on the road against a high power. Packers offense. Maybe they opened things up a little bit. I didn't do it and it didn't. I mean obviously. The packers came up pretty strong leading but at no point. Did this feel like the titans are. Excuse me the tax being up or the other that the chiefs being up and there was no way to come back to the seahawks. We're going to be in the game because of Russ and if not for the leak Turner there at the end. I think you're right Brinson. They had a sixty percent chance when they gave he catches the ball of and feel. I thought thought this was like a vintage like a classic seahawks game of the season because it was like a microcosm of their entire season. Because we talk about all the time out. It's always once game. And it's always a one score game feels like because the seahawks for thirty minutes a fumble around trying to establish the run and they don't open up the offense until they they are forced to and it was twenty eight to ten Green Bay in the third quarter and I felt like everyone as Ryan was kind of alluding to you felt like this was going GonNa be a one score game at some point and Russ was going to have the bonus hands in the reason we felt that way is because the seahawks were forced to throw in Russell. Wilson just run around and do as Houdini Act which he was able to do very successfully down the stretch and so it it must be so frustrating for fans to watch this offense in the second half half and it wasn't pretty because it was a lot of Russ ad-libbing and he was taken some saks and he was dealing with pressure and just running around making crazy. Plays but you think. Think man if we could do this type of offense or this type of approach for sixty minutes our team would be substantially better if we weren't masquerading as his this run heavy team. That can bully the other team. Because they're not good enough at doing that. There are at their best. When Russell Wilson the shopping back the past and has space in Connecticut often run or tyler or lock down the field and they don't do that until the second half of the game and if they were able to do that for sixty minutes I think this this whole season probably plays out differently for them? Not just this game let me. I quickly talking. Russell's in the MVP race and rightly so imagine if he were playing for the forty niners playing for the chiefs. It they would. He would blow the doors off Lamar Jackson terms of MVP race this year. Because he'd be so they're wasting Russell Wilson and Seahawks fans tweet that all the time and it sort of makes you not even want to think combat because of how they approach the game plan each and every week and it's so run heady it seems so not including I was just like yeah I mean. It's it's infuriating. I was looking at third downs. Not including their kneel down at the end backers kneel down third down and long so anything about third and five Aaron Rodgers in this game. Seven of Eight for one hundred twenty one yards one touchdown and a sack and and the packers also had two other touchdowns on third one at the goal line. I mean if you can't like it was exactly how the Seahawks beat the The Jesus and blacking out here I would like to ask Sean as you know. Paul Brenton can't remember anything. Anything as Sean is the captain of the Aaron Rodgers Hate Brigade. Would you like to apologize to all the Aaron Rodgers fans out there for hating on them all season and then he came through multiple times in the clutch in this game. I thought I thought he played well. I'm not gonNA apologize when he has to face the forty niners a week and we'll probably get demolished in. I'm not GonNa Apologize Colleges when I'm GONNA come out looking good by the end of this real quick. What I was going to add about the seahawks defense was really bad? I thought especially with how they tried to cover Davante the atoms. They didn't bracket him once until the third quarter or might have been the fourth quarter was like and it worked and it was like why are you. It's similar to how their offense changes in the in the second half. Why are you waiting this long? The bracket Adams when he's he's the only legitimate receiver in Green Bay and it also says as long they're gonNa beat by Jimmy Graham who might be the slowest pass catching tight end right now in the league who doesn't block and the thing that I thought of during this game in its hindsight and you know it's hard to criticize these GM's year to year after the fact but how much better with the crm look if they did not let Richard Sherman and earl. Thomas both walking free agency Z.. Yeah totally different. I mean this is but I like the seahawks who just disappointing because this could be so much more. Yeah I mean like do clowney played unbelievable in this game and last week eagles. SEGEL'S EGOS say diva but Russell Wilson was like he was five or six on third and ten. I'm sorry it's been a long two days On on five third and tenor longer against the they lived on third down to convert of these long third downs. And that's what the packers did against the seahawks on Sunday night. Like this is a gain. The seahawks folks could have won. They were down fourteen to three rest within twenty three and a half twenty one and three after right but it could have been so much closer they an opportunity to make they settled for fuel goal. One field goal field goal. Attempt to Jason Myers missed a fifty yarder. They took a hail Mary with ten seconds left on the clock. Instead of throwing it the sideline they botched the clock. It just feels like this offense for the doesn't get going until they get the oblique mode. And therefore just let Russell Wilson do it like I would if I interviewed for that offense coordinator I B. Here's what am I doing nothing. I'm a I'm I'm a I'M A I'M A. I'm going to get a fake headset and be like frank in always sunny you know. He's walking around on Pew Pew Pew. He thinks he's shooting things he's not I'm going to be talking. Walk in the high five and everybody calling plays Russell's not here in any of it rustles just doing whatever the Hell Russell wants to do and we'll win tons of games digging metcalf. Felt like a non-factor Tyler. Lockett was stretching the fuel but they wouldn't keep throwing deep. Why were they not threatening the the packers deep? That's their weak spot. They felt content to run it with. marshawn Sean Lynch drums homer. It's infuriating not not even that they gave four times as many carries the marshawn and look. I love Marchand one of my favorite players. The last fifteen years twelve carries for twenty six yards homer consistently since they sign marshawn has looked like the better back with good reason. Marshawn was not playing football like he. He was not nearly as good a game shape and it just felt like they signed marshawn. There was like We have to give him the ball. And it wasn't working twelve years or twenty six yards when Russell Wilson is twenty one to thirty one for two hundred seventy seven yards and a touchdown tyler. Lockett got nine of his ten targets for one hundred thirty six yards. I think it's inexcusable. To keep force feeding the running game and the other thing that the seahawks did schematically in the second half and Pete Carroll mentioned Chris Myers talked about coming out of the break. He said peak girl says I still want to be able to run the Boston. God Dang it. Are you kidding me. He's put that may've Russell Wilson a lot more that could make they got Russell running and they were doing whatever they wanted on offense. Why did you why would you not this? This is what makes me mad. They come into this game with a plan to attack the packers Akers with read option out of the gate. Just us read option out of the gate with Travis homer Russell Wilson Spring on them. They're going to be on their heels. You're going to be able to run the ball effectively if marshawn after that. You'RE GONNA give your offensive line of break and you're going to open up play action deep and it just knew what they were gonNA come in and do and you knew. Why didn't I bet the packers the first half Jeff Locke stake in the first half there in total disarray? In the first half and Brisbane the interviewer talking about was hilarious because literally it. It was twenty one two three at halftime. Buck throws down the Chris Myers who is coming out so the second half hasn't started and he's like well I just talked to Pete Carroll and and he said we're going to run the ball more they're down twenty one to three mind you and he's like we're not out of it because we're GONNA get. We're GONNA CUT Russell Wilson loose as it. which could be running or passing assing didn't specify but it's like why are you waiting till the second half the Russell Wilson loose that literally makes no sense? Why would carol say that out loud old? It's like this team is just pulling their like. How can we put ourselves in the biggest bind? How much of a whole can we dig? And and then try and climb out and some games they dig a hole. It's eight feet deep. And then they get out of it in this game. They dug a hole. That was like fifteen. There was no way they were getting out of it and it was just mind boggling. That takes them so long to be a perfect example of the seahawks just being in total disarray for the first half. Nearly every game they play in is that they were out of timeouts in the first half at the ten minute mark of the second quarter. If they would've just saved one of those time outs they would have had a shot at. It definitely had a field goal. Maybe at a touchdown on that last drive of the first half or they drove straight down. Green Bay's throat. They got down to the forty three yard line for the packers and then they just ran out of time because Russell through the Hail Mary if they would have thirty seconds on the clock or forty seconds instead of ten to three plays so it was just like everything I think. That team does is crazy. Can I real quick. We're focusing a lot on the seahawks. Mistakes in the second half they bungled the said of the game really to first off they have a fourth and eleven which I get. Low percentage their own thirty six yard line down by five with two forty one left in the game. I feel like you have to go for that because because I think you there's no guarantee you're gonNA get the ball back and you can still if you don't get it. You can still force a stop and they kick a field goal and you're GONNA get another shot at the game They would not they did not get the ball back and if you look at the defensive mistakes they make Brinson you're the one saying. Aaron Rodgers Converts to third down and long so on that drive the first one was a deep pass with devante Adams lined up in the slot. One on one. You just can't again. You gotta make Rogers go somewhere else and beat you elsewhere. You can't let out get a free release and beat you over the top. Like that's just Gimme he's been bringing you all game long. They got burnt the to the to really bad ones. I mean they put they. They stopped here. Josiah to yards call. Timeout in green bay calls a timeout Rogers. You get clowned donny. Gets pressure on me. Thursday incomplete pass. That's enormous later taking the sack. He just let you back in the game. And then it's like this is where if you're gonNA punt you need to realize that like and then if Aaron Rodgers threw the ball away when they put Davante Adams in the slot like call timeout. It'd be like okay. They're going out in the slot plot the double team. It was it was it was inexplicable. So then there's a second third down in nine Jimmy grant that the spot was controversial at the replay was spotted. I think it might have been short. But I don't think you can overturn it but I believe you'd have to go back and look at the replay on thirty nine. They're playing the single high safety. WHO's like fifteen yards arts downfield? It's like what are you guarding downfield. Aaron Rodgers wants to take a twenty five year shutdown field. Let Them Do. It doesn't matter if you give it twenty five yards. You just can't give up the nine nine yards. So they're they're basically defending the play with one fewer defenders than they should already have out there on the field so it was just. They made a lot of mistakes in the first half but in the last two minutes and thirty seconds there was a comedy of errors both in terms of coaching decision. Making on offense and defensive alignments by the way Shawn mentioned that he he didn't mind the spot on Jimmy. Graham played that either you have any issues with it. I thought it was terrible. Here's the thing I thought it was terrible too but if if you look and I think Andrew Brandt who did the south apparently the yellow line a core obviously is an official. If you look at it looks to be a little bit ahead of the yard markers or maybe they got right. Yeah I mean here's my thing like what what are we. What are we I mean? Why is this how we're measuring first downs? When we're like yeah we have a fourteen fourteen billion dollar business you might say and I say now we can put a man on the moon but we can't figure out where the ball is spotted on the field? I mean your grandmother was a wise lady and you sure she's not she's just not wrong by the way here's Pete Carroll telling us about the spot via CBS. You have the catch against guys district telling me short. It looks short and had they called him short. Then it would have been short. You know you know it's the same thing last week you call them score you let him score it turns out when I'm back to the niners game I guess Off tacos. Here's the thing I I'm okay with that if that's what the NFL wants to do if the NFL wants to say. Listen we're going to make calls on the field and then we're GONNA use replay to overturn them only in cases where it's agree gis or like we're like we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA we're GONNA elite the. NFL would tell us what it's doing. That would be fine if it wants to. It wants to hold whatever's on the field and say like listen we're GONNA air to the side of what's on the field then tell us that and that's fine but if you want to if you're going to go to replay and then have him try back out. It was a clear blake. Men have them come back out and be like Additional replay. It was like Oh my oh my God they were about to shift the packers on this additional replay. These has confirmed that the call stands like well. There's very very too much for me. Wizard UH WIZARD OF OZ body. You know what I mean. Like it feel or wizards the wizard of odds was wizard of Oz. E thank you. I'm I'm losing my mind here on the show. Yesterday you Costanza you're the opposite of Costanza. You have according to Santa had sex and now you're more I would. I would murder somebody to that Brown Glass Brown liquor. Sean has in his mouth charter your drink. Don't feel like they need to open the curtain because it feels like what happens is is. Why can't you put cameras like? Why can't you put cameras everywhere? What's the hold up? Why don't have transparency Brinson v transparent about the review process? What they're looking looking at? Yes I want to note that there is a packers touchdown that you literally just could not tell if Aaron Jones got into the zone and there was one of those plays. I think it was third down to where if they rule them short and it was really close. They're not going to overturn it either way and I'm not saying he was in or not. I don't blame the officials on the sideline to be able to see. Because they're looking down the sideline how many feet away and there's so many bodies in between them and it's absurd that that's that's who were tasked with deciding if the nose of the football touches to go so on and you're watching the play and like the back judge who cannot see the football at all of these. You know grow like you can't you all you can see his back and I I agree I thought he was short and that that and then the other case today cloudy is called for a through the flag think it was a face mask then review the video that crap. It's not a face mask Can we get him on like Open appendage of the in the opening of the helmet. They're like yeah. Well let's get him for that. And that that resulted in the packers touchdown instead of third and eight to like the officials are affecting the bitch about this all the time. It doesn't I feel like it's never felt like it's been this bad before crazy burns and are we reaching pro wrestling levels of officiating. Would it be like one official get knocked out and somebody get in the end zone and be like. Oh it's a touchdown. Sometimes it feels that way breach. Sometimes it feels that way I I do think and I can't believe I'm the one saying this. Thanks so much time talking about the seahawks in a in the officiating like we should give the packers some credit and I thought Uh their their defense for so much of the season. I think we've been saying like should be better because they're so they have so. Many individual players are playing well for whatever reasons to the whole defense wasn't playing well. I thought their defensive line played particularly well especially in the first half and even when Russell Wilson was running around doing his thing which he was able to do they were at least able to make Russell like burn a lot of clock like there were. There isn't feel like there are a lot of quick seok scoring drives because they were at least pressuring him In a lot of times I felt like Russell taking these three yard loss sacks because he just couldn't find anyone opening didn't throw it away so I wanNA give credit to the packers even because I thought they actually played really well especially in the second with Russ running around and trying to do is thing. Don't forget there was also that the the fumble bowl that the packers. The first quarter was where that probably should've on the packers way. So I feel like at least the officiating calls both teams got hosed by at least one bad one if you want to say the seahawks hose on that the the Graham spot at the end of the game that fumble did feel like the seahawks hawks did fumble. I know there wasn't a quote unquote clear recovery But it did seem like the packers probably capable with the ball there and that would have been a huge swing if green bay had taken over there. Yeah I mean there's there's just too many cases where the officials are problematic. All right the the packers won the look they they could have blown them. I mean they were probably the better team on this day. Based on what the SEAHAWKS did I. I don't have a problem with the result. SORTA wish to see gotten that two point conversion further spread. What are you GONNA do? Live the packers go to San Francisco rematch of that game. Monday night from week. I tweet ten of the top of my head. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong or just a firm me but That was a bloodbath by the packers by this of the packers by the forty niners. The forty niners are minus seven and the over under forty four and a half maybe forty five any thoughts on that Game Ryan. Do we see a repeat of said bloodbath. Well Three Amigos already talked about. I want you start. And then we'll be twelve by the way. Thanks diva you start. And we'll follow because we were on the show I would. I would take this. The forty niners as fast as possible. Here the line is shaded a little bit towards The the packers in terms of being plus money like MIDAS one on fifteen indicating that like the market sort of wants to go to plus six and a half. I don't think that'll happen if you get. If you're the forty niners by six and a half I would absolutely they do that I think the four are going to steamroll when you look at what the packers did well in this game again converted third and longs which are not typically sustainable. Oh they ran the ball okay. Their defense was it challenged deep at all. I don't think they have. Anybody can match up with George kiddle. I don't think they have anybody that can slow down the forty niners run game. I don't think they have anybody. I don't think the offensive line played particularly well against Justin Dave and cloudy and put forward and I think that the forty niners will get after like crazy and maybe most importantly again they lived off these third downs. You're not gonna live off their downs when you ever determined on the field. That's that's a Richard Sherman. Because I was just looking at F- floor A mock draft comes out on Tuesday morning. Richard Sherman has the highest great among all cornerbacks And he's what thirty two years old now and we heard his comments last night on on the podcast about how He felt disrespected and understand. We saw some in some degree. He's headed Marcus. Peters head of Steph Gilmore. He's ahead of everybody and he ain't afraid we know that as well. He had interception Yes it was a terrible quarterback kirk cousins indoor Adam ceiling not running the route completed the whatever he was there he made the play. And that ain't going to change. When he faces Aaron Rodgers in fact act? Aaron Rodgers has a history of thorn not during the Richard. Good Yeah He. He virtually ignored him on that. Primetime game where. I don't think there was a single passer and his way. This is the one thing I'll say. Though is that there is a little bit of a disadvantage in how the seahawks do the same thing that foreigners C. which is the the corners on one side of the field And they don't don't move them across for matchups. Sherman is GonNa be on that left side of the defense right side for an rogers so you would think the packers can probably at least move Davante Adams into the slot onto the left side of the field. which is exactly what they did? By the way against the SEAHAWKS. They went to the left and they put him in the slot match up on the on the right side of the field. So I think we're going to see them do that I mean that's I think. What breaching Wilson We? We all took the forty niners to cover right on the youtube show. Yeah let me ask you this. How does this house this loose? How is this lose If you take the forty niners because these things are designed to lose this. I'm just curious what you guys think you take the forty niners and the for the chiefs either. Do six six point teaser. Six six and a half is what you WANNA do six and a half point teaser. And you get it down to chiefs minus one forty niners smile half a point. Oh well here's the thing. I mentioned this on the Youtube. Show of all the quarterbacks which one has the best chance to go from being mediocre to throwing throwing for four yards and five touchdowns to go from being. WHO's GONNA go nuclear rogers? Is that a trick question Sexy Ryan Tannehill doing and doing it to be honest to doing that. I feel like an Rogers. Is the guy that if he went off everyone be like. Oh yeah there it is. We just missed it now. I guess but that's the only way I feel like you lose up. I don't it's a teaser. Yeah I mean like you do. Yeah Yeah I mean you do a seven point teaser. And you gotTA juice on it. But it's the chiefs minus a half in the forty niners Beckham feels pretty good to me. Maybe I should avoid the teaser and listened into marshawn Lynch to take care of chicken now have been on the other side of retirement and is good when you get over over here and you can do what you want to. So I'll tell you right now I'll take care of your brain so we all done go ahead and take care of yourself. Yep So why. y'All had to right now. Take your body's I mean. Don't take care of your checking. Your family. Don't take care mental because last Nemo I had a couple of players play with. I mean they no longer here out in the longer so I mean you start taking care of Y'all mantles your body's and your I chicken and we are ready to walk away. Walk Lang what you WANNA do. My appreciate thank. y'All love that man so much wrong. I mean that's actually that's something that people should probably listen to. I'll be honest like the chicken parts and understand and knowing me I take care of your chicken what does it mean and I literally look at. PD Here's how you take care of chickens in the backyard but the other part. Yeah No. That's right it's save your money. That's that's a lesson and that's that's mental take care of your body and take your chicken. Amen Brother what STU winner and loser from Sunday's games I feel like Brits Autobiography Should Take Care of your chicken Take conceived for the soul. Heck Yo chicken by we'll Brinson. It's a sign who's buying autobiography president. All right winners losers Brinson gophers than she missed out on Youtube show. How many tenants rank in a minute? I need a second. You go ahead what. You're right ogre. I winners Jimmy Johnson. Bill Cower Nice call gotten the hall of Fame Steve. Affinity is the best Phoebe some well. We talked about incorporating anyway. Bill Bill Cower our coach cower. NC State a long shout out Kaur has a house here in Raleigh Johnson. Marcy Arkansas Pine Bluff. I think maybe not anyway both found out they were getting in the hall of Fame Little Awkward Because Bill found out on Saturday during the during the CBS. Halftime and Jimmy Johnson. You're like I better find out on Sunday like we generally stocked on Sunday though right. Yeah I mean they did. It was really cool. They did during the halftime. Show for both guys. David Baker the president of the Hall Perfect Hall of fame came out and and let the guys know in front of literally millions of people. Their families are waiting. Eighty four mayor. Usually they do it in. A hotel room is part of the centennial class. Sort of an amnesty class to kind of clean out. A bunch of guys who might have been left behind It's shocking when you look at the the coaches who are not in the hall of fame like Tom Flores. Mike Shanahan Tom Coughlin. Jimmy Johnson named four coaches who have multiple super bowls but are not in the hall of fame. That's Kinda crazy. I mean if you win two super bowls what are we. What are we waiting for like well manning because he is a coach is a coach? Now that's fair enough. I can add a loser to the conversation. We're having here hall of Fame inductees Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones didn't even put Jimmy Johnson into the cowboys ring of honor. How can you be in the hall of fame and not being the cowboys? Ring of honor. Honor unless you have a grudge against the man who got you all the superbowls. What's your winner? Then now I was just doing the loser to follow from Benson's SORTA using a winner to me guys winner Sean. rawl glitch on my winner the San Francisco Forty niners who get to play the Green Bay packers. Instead of the seahawks the seahawks actually would have given them a lot. More fits just because of Russell Wilson. Look I mean wrenching. Said they played them twice this year. And both those games this came down to the wire They played the packers this year and it was like one of the worst games Rogers career. I think the forty niners wanted the packers to win. I don't think they wanted to see Russell Wilson Princeton. We can hear you texting. My my loser is Carlos Hyde who was traded in the offseason. From I messed up my winter had a better winner. Bauer I'M GONNA throw a warmer winter coming through Carlos scientists by loser because he was traded from the chiefs to the Texans season ended against the chiefs and on that note my winners Terrell suggs who When he was cut by the cardinals? There's report that he only wanted to play for the Ravens refuse to play for everyone else because he wanted to win the Super Bowl. It's probably a good thing for him. That the chiefs except in claimed him because now he has actually has a chance to go in a ring. Alan winner quickly and then John can wrap up. Because he's he's our cleanup hitter today. The big winner for me is Andy. Reid he's back into the championship game Like I said. He didn't seem unnerved when they were down. Twenty four nothing and I feel like he's going to be ready to go. Patch wealthy ready to go and I feel like Andy. Reid is going to go the super bowl for the first time since two thousand two thousand three season is that right. Yeah just a second super bowl appearance all right. Let's do it Andrew. Yeah you'd be happy reusable absolutely. I've wanted that after the eagles goes got there is the next on. The list is Andy Reid and I think all eagles fans share that same sentiment would if it were if hypothetically were eagles I chiefs would you be okay with losing now. I think that's a silly question but anybody else I actually. Actually you know what I think. I asked On this podcast like a year ago. I think I asked Brian Dawkins that he almost. They threatened to kill me nuts. He said that's the stupidest thing anybody's ever asked me. I was like oh I thought you were kind of maybe reading eighty reap all right. My tweet Oh you today about Andy Reid so I let that stupid question go. Is that what I said. I already sub tweeted you about Andy Reid today so I let that question go so he did you respond to the tweet from as you tweet so much you forget about what divas sub tweeting you entering. So he's like super predom- Brenston did he can remember didn't emergency podcast about the new browns coach on Sunday. Howdy remember sub tweeting? Someone Brinson was blaming. Andy Reid for people who don't know for putting Tailoring Hill back to return a punt and depot put it out that Tyreek Hill you silly times in like you. Don't pay me any read for unconscious. You for time he punches you return this year you forget you forget how to return punts in one season. I feel like it's a skill you kind of swap out your punt returner in the middle. I mean clearly. He did forget because he fumbled it. And you must follow the next one to lead the last a depot doc. All right Johnny. The biggest winners are me. Sean and Wilson is we all pick to win the super bowl and the chiefs chiefs are still alive and our preseason prognostication is gonNA pay off. We are wizards of odds or is one Bridgeton lakes. I bet on the chiefs to win the Super Bowl before the playoffs before week. Sixteen so I scratch visser captain obvious. Oh you mean the Super Bowl in week. Sixteen four weeks before we seventeen before when they were going to be the three seat. I Bet I was everybody in the podcast. They were good value at seven to one. I'm just doing the thank you. Do you know censor making obvious. Predictions obvious predicting they were going to be the three seed shadow. Say say that's a smart pet but you do not move up into our my winners category as being a win you win. I win. I drove I drove Brinson into the book in the Lamar Jackson Bandwagon Mobile. But you guys are making fun of me of taking a good bet all right. Glad sergeant my other winner is again for going. Oh four no straight up with my divisional round picks I think the only person alive in the media who got all his picks right this week straight up against the spread straight up you only does it. No one else said I think the local area am and picks to nine point favorites. That I would John John John's literally the only person on pick watch watch out for the only person I stand alone and then so then my loser is anyone who doesn't live in Nashville Asheville because Johnny Nashville's got national this week and rock up the town because probably have to pick the titans losers Russell Wilson because he is stuck playing with the coaching staff. It doesn't appreciate him and I don't know if they're going to get back to the Super Bowl until they either get an offensive coordinator because you can't get repeat Carol but you can't get an offense coordinator that knows what to do with him. I don't know if they ever will. Russell Wilson should end his career if you had a competent coaching staff with I don't know three four Super Bowl rings but now it's going to be. Maybe you too because he already has one. So I'm somehow how this happened I guess they got a justice. Point spreads for crying out loud. So I'm going to be too into between three and five I'll take that PRISCO four and against the spread do this week. My My Best I've I best bet on the podcast from Friday over two touchdowns for Patrick Mahomes. Lord why would that to the over under one and a half minus two hundred two hundred to one hundred. But Oh okay Gotcha by the way kimmy mentioned. It's a real quick. We didn't do it during the chiefs section that she scored seventy points that the stadium ran out of fireworks. This shoot off after every touchdown and they've put a video. They put a message up on the video. JIO Board saying they ran out of fireworks. Everybody do a loser and when you could be your loser could be the fireworks. We did two winters one loser. Okay I wouldn't be listening Brinson. uh-huh alcohol others the month of January you sub to worry if I win one more. Winter is be again because when you listen in this podcast. I'll be celebrating my birthday because my birthday is Monday. January thirteenth happy birthday wishes earlier on the podcast didn't get them How old are you guys? Have you worked right now breach breach. I am old enough to vote drink and have babies. That's all and that and what I said combined. All three of those things combined. The toll vote drinking. I guess thirty eight I am. What are you GonNa Start Dying your hair? I mean your beer. I'm getting some more than you can recommend your hair guided him. I don't die anything all natural although I gotta tell you like what you do in your vacations that's the only thing Zinc get out of here kinda rap. If we don't wrap it up we'll probably need myself the winner of something else so we probably should all right. 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