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"two guys" Discussed on In God We Lust
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"two guys" Discussed on In God We Lust
"Affection toward him he told talking points memo. She was quote. Feeling me up trying to give me a kiss But must make him so anxious. Yeah incredibly anxious. He's like what if someone sees us together. Things are getting too close for giancarlo. It's really confusing for him. Becky jerry act like nice parents. One minute then becky's having sex with him. The next giancarlo starts to think this is not right Yeah i mean let's see the falwell's are taking him on expensive trips buying a building to give job introducing him to celebrities all at the same time. They're in a sexual relationship with him. Yeah and years later giancarlo. We'll call this behavior grooming and the follows will be accused of keeping giancarlo. Close even making him feel like he's part of their family as a way to make sure he'll never reveal the secrets of their relationship. Well yeah but. Carlos doubts about his relationship with the falwell's are growing by two thousand fifteen. Whatever thing they're doing has been going on for three years. Okay that's longer than my longest two person relationship. At least you have me forever. And then that spring giancarlo starts dating a girl and they start to get serious giancarlos thinking about pulling away from the falwell's just when hey sues fernandez junior and his father come back into the picture and they're out for revenge now it's getting good. Yeah they're still mad that they believe they were cut out of the deal and no one has given them what they want. So so on. June eighth two thousand fifteen. They file legal paperwork seeking information from the falls and eventually they move forward with a lawsuit over what they say they're still owed the fernandez's seek damages of at least fifteen thousand dollars but what's most surprising about. The lawsuit is who at names. The defendants are jerry. Junior and becky falwell and their son trae and giancarlo granda for the first time in public. The names of jerry. Becky giancarlo are linked together in this court. Filing and the falwell's learn about another problem. Someone has gotten their hands on intimate photos of becky. Whoa who would've taken them. not jerry. Weil he might have taken them but it's unlikely he would share them except maybe with giancarlo and that's who the fall suspect they believe giancarlo could have shared the photos with friends. It's all way too much drama for giancarlo from the time the lawsuit i comes out which terrifies him and so he resolved to kind of break things awfully sexually nelson clear that he doesn't want to be in business with them forever that you know he has the stake in the property and he wants to walk away you he wants to buy them out and just say okay us. Realizes that this can't be is life one day giancarlo meets the falwell's poolside at the. Lowes hotel in miami. To tell them it's over. He fronts a combined you know gone to restrict carina. Becky's drinking vodka dailies. Which apparently she'd like to drink and jerry according to ground a agrees to buy him out. Giancarlo says that's the end of their physical relationship at least for a while but he keeps in contact with the falwell's i mean he still working for them at the hostile and he says becky still crazy attracted to him. Even though the physical relationship cools after that as hasn't interesting meeting they do close over texts. Their attacks from that time period chazan after rebecca's rhonda like how your eyes and lips entice me. Chronicling her beautiful. So there's still this kind of relationship that exists between them. Even though it's not being concentrated the foul say giancarlo was trying to blackmail them with the photos. Which giancarlo says is not true but one thing is certain. The falwell's have a big problem. There could be compromising photos floating around of becky and who knows what else they need to lock this shit down and who they turn to for help but the same person. Donald trump turns to in situations like this. The person who has become a surprisingly good friend to jerry. None other than trump's fixer michael cohen. There's a bunch of photographs personal photographs. That somehow guy ended up getting carry phone or somehow got airdropped or whatever the hell the whole thing and they're you know yes personal. That's on the next episode of in god. We lust from wondering. This is episode. Three of six of in god. We lost a series about the allure in perils of sex wealth and power to hear more stories about family dynasties scandals and fancy people. Check out the series. We host even the rich where we've covered everyone from beyond say a to britney spears to the for sachi's to jackie kennedy the falls giancarlo granada declined to be interviewed for the series. A lawsuit recently filed by liberty university against follow. Alleges that jerry junior covered up becky's affair with giancarlo. 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"two guys" Discussed on In God We Lust
"Every so often he and the parents mysteriously disappear like one night before dinner. Giancarlo says he sneaks off the falwell's to sleep with becky and they leave shop. They go to the rest of the family at this restaurant A nice fancy restaurant in miami beach and they kind of have to make up this story for why disappeared. He in the fouls. Come up with a solid cover when the story was that grandad fight with somebody close and that the falwell's kind of just like i'll talk through it kind of is like a mentor relationship. Support my god. This is so awkward. Cringing while wait because it gets even more awkward and so you know it's down at the table and they're tracing next to him. Um and garden tells the story and trae says you know you're like a brother to me. I really hate to see through this. These moments make giancarlo feel really guilty. Can he sort of like one of the brothers. The brothers have no idea what's going on with him back in it's fucked up and says it's fucked up but not fucked up enough to stop the affair at least not at first months. Go by like this. The falwell's keep coming down to miami beach. They hang out the even go clubbing. Or as a liberty lawsuit will later put it. The falwell's are quote fraternizing and high energy social establishments. I can't even handle low energy social establishments right now. Yeah just saying the words high energy. i'm tired anyway. The falwell's keep doing things to entice giancarlo to stay in their orbit in two thousand and fourteen they go ahead and ask giancarlos named the llc that owns the hostile. He's only making about eighteen thousand dollars a year managing it but now he has a quarter ownership of the business and jerry. Becky are writing checks for the repairs. The hostile needs hundreds of thousands of dollars and awkward. Though it may be this weird double life continues.
"two guys" Discussed on In God We Lust
"Knowledge people around me are like pretty conservative. like you'll hard to live this idealize christian life. Giancarlo has a good time on the trip. He hangs out with the whole falwell family at the farmhouse. It's a beautiful wooded property with a lake. That weekend went to the wells home. I was introduced his life relaxing. He has all these recollections of jerry acting the boss hog of virg- like flexing his connections with police that giancarlo spends time with their sons trey and wesley. They go jet skiing hunt. Dry four wheelers around and just generally have a good time together. Okay and why do the falwell kids think he's there. Yeah we don't know for sure. I mean the follow. Kids are around the same age giancarlo but even in two thousand twelve people who were with. Jerry have noticed that he and becky seemed to take a liking to certain attractive. Young people one former administrator told us that they would call them the falwell's flavor of the month. So do they know that. Jerry and becky are having an affair with giancarlo. I don't think so not yet. But they're starting to get suspicious. A former senior administrator says he knew jerry had sent liberties private plane to bring giancarlo to lynchburg for the trump. Is it and that people in the administration talking like why who is this kid. When giancarlo returns to miami life seems good. He met donald trump. He has a real estate deal in the works he goes ahead and quits his pool attendant job at the fountain blue pool. Boy no more. Meanwhile jerry junior finalizes the deal to buy the miami hostile. According to someone close to the falwell's they've been looking for a commercial investment property in miami beach for years and now they finally found one and when the miami hostile deal finally closes. There's something strange about it. The listed owner is an llc registered to jerry and becky son trae in other words. Jerry becky's son is in charge of the company that actually owns the hostile. And what are trays qualifications. I don't know he's twenty three years old and greater jet skiing but giancarlos name isn't listed anywhere as an owner hang on wasn't the whole point of the falls buying this hostile supposedly to make money for giancarlo. Yeah that's what giancarlo says was supposed to happen but that's not what happens at least not at first okay. And then what about. He's used fernandez junior and senior. They get nothing nothing nada. Jerry claims they never had a deal that day at the lowes hotel. He says there was no agreement. In fact the owls dispute this whole account they say a business partner from virginia actually introduced the miami deal to them that jerry never owned any real estate property in florida and that the llc was never in his name at all. Wow that's cold. Yeah colder than a frozen dockery and the fernandez aren't going to take this without putting up a fight. 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Okay so the fernandes's get completely cut out of the real estate deal that they say they teed up for jerry and giancarlo are they mad. Oh yeah they're furious at jerry and giancarlo. They want what they believe is rightfully theirs. And it doesn't seem like anyone listens jerry junior claims it's his son and his wife's investment that he was just an informal adviser to the deal. Okay someone close to the falwell's told us that they chose rhonda a quote local college student because he told them he would work. Twenty four seven to make sure the property was successful. And that's what giancarlo does he gets to work. Running the miami hostile and the place needs a lot of repairs. It's an old building and the roof and plumbing both need to be fixed. Jerry and becky are coming down to miami beach. Every so often they stay at various fancy hotels. Hang out poolside. One time they go parasailing giancarlo would later tell josh. Kevin ski that the falwell kids come along to miami on a number of those trips summer. Two thousand thirteen. I think this is a year after the first month and giancarlos having a great time with the whole family being treated like one of the kids except yeah one big except.
"two guys" Discussed on In God We Lust
"Okay ratio. We're going to go back. A few months to the spring of two thousand twelve to just after giancarlo came back from his run com inspired trip to new york city with the falwell's on that trip. Jerry had suggested that giancarlo find a real estate investment opportunity in miami and so giancarlos been trying to come up with a good idea to pitch him. He turns to a good friend from high school. Who might be able to help him. A guy named hey seuss well. That's fitting for this story. It is but the seuss's a little less famous. This is hey fernandez junior. Hey suits junior lives in an apartment in south beach but not in the part of south beach where wealthy people live and expensive sky rises the street. Hey seuss lives on is mostly to were three storey multi unit apartments so. It's just like when i tell people i live in the hollywood hills and they have a very different image of where i actually live. Yeah they probably don't picture you out on the qurban sweatpants waiting for famous people to dry anyways giancarlo. And hey zeus are hanging out one day. And hey sues pitches him an idea. What about buying a hostile in miami beach pay susan. His girlfriend have been working at one and he knows of a different one. That's for sale. They could run it together. And hey seuss's dad who's a real estate developer in miami could help broker the deal. His dad's name by the way is. Hey seuss fernandez senior okay. A lot of j. f. seniors and juniors in this story the jerry falwell's now the hey zeus fernandez okay. I don't make the names aretha. I'm just saying okay. Well giancarlos into the idea. They assemble their team. Ready to present this awesome opportunity to the falwell's except honestly i'm not sure why they think this is going to be a good investment for the falwell's i mean you can stay there for as little as fifteen bucks a night. They pack up to ten people in rooms full of bunk beds and the bar. Looks like it's been the venue for many games of beer pong okay so that sounds like the frat houses at my college one reporter who visited calls it a flop house on the plus side travelers. They're say the place is cheap. The rooms are clean. And you can't beat the location for the price hastings fernandez junior and senior both never responded to requests for comments about this real estate deal but roberto bracho ran the real estate company that brokered the deal. Roberto's family is steeped. In real estate. My grandfather was a real estate. Brokering in my father. A real estate broker new york and i work here a real estate. We're going miami it. My kids are also in the real estate business and he's known. Hey fernandez senior for years. We were co workers bodies in the we know office and we transpire opinions in. We made business decisions. He knew hey seuss junior to the sun. I knew him since he was a baby the same way that he knew my family. My kids and my wife. I knew their family and their kids. Under ways one day the fernandez's brought a new deal into the office. The enquiring about getting a hotel some type of business. That could be something above five hundred thousand dollars in that. They had a very good client was willing to invest in the property and go into a join venture. Roberto seize the opportunity as a good one for hey sousse and his friends giancarlo. There are two young guys trying to get their start in real estate it was more like a beginners investment. You know something that is not really too big. But his manageable. There's something that will really grew up in the future. I knew from day one that them to one to get into the biz this because they were on a run together as friends. I mean there were friends but he never knew much about where the money for. The deal was coming from in reality. No i know he was Some sort of priest or a whatever you know in late spring jerry and becky falwell come to miami on a family vacation. Giancarlo gathers the too hasty uses and jerry falwell junior together in the lobby of the loews hotel a few miles down the beach from the fountain blue according to hastings senior jerry greets them with praise. You may god bless you. They sit down in the brightly lit marble lobby and jerry listens to their pitch. And this is where the trouble starts because the fernandez's will later say that they come to verbal agreement. That jerry will pay for the building. Giancarlo will get an ownership stake which he'll split fifty fifty with. Hey seuss junior and junior will have jobs managing the hostile with that. Jerry sets out to check out the property in question. Now i want you to picture liberty university president jerry. Falwell junior arriving at the hostel. The first thing he sees when he walks up is a liquor store. Okay convenient for those beer pong games. Yeah the entrance to the hostel is barely visible. You have to enter through this hard to find side door okay. That's sketchy or maybe. It's like cool like a speakeasy. Yeah the password is bunk beds according to hey sue senior. Jerry spends about two hours walking around checking out the kitchen. The patio the common area. The hostels on the bay side of south beach far from the luxury hotels that line the beach tourists don't tend to come to this part of town. But that's what makes a hostile so cheap and it serves a purpose for budget travelers according to hastings senior. Jerry asks to look at the hostels numbers remember. Jerry's got decades experience investing in real estate and when they leave the miami hostile that day it seems like a deal is in the works all summer and into the fall. The real estate deal is progressing and giancarlo was in contact. With a falwell's they're sending texts photos and videos including the one about wanting to rip giancarlos clothes off and then on september twenty fourth. Two thousand twelve here at liberty university. We plan to start replacing our oldest storms in the dorm circle with residential towers in january. And i think we need to trump tower to here on campus. Don't you when giancarlo makes his trip up to liberty and he gets to shake hands with the host of the apprentice. Mr trump's nineteen eighty-seven autobiography. The art of the deal became one of the most successful business bestsellers of all time. Trump comes on stage to wild applause from the student body in the audience. Jerry junior and the provost hand him. A framed certificate in recognition of donald j trump's unwavering public commitment to our nation's founding principles visionaries and entrepreneurs as welcome to liberty university for the first time dr donald trump. He'll give anyone a doctor at these days to really what place i am. The real estate business. A lot of you know this but for about twenty years jerry. Falwell junior was in central virginia as a real estate developer. A friend of mine from the area said man was he tough and smart and good. You believe this and now look what he's doing so it all looks giancarlo. Think about all this well. According to josh kaczynski from talking points memo this liberty trip is not what giancarlo expected based on his off campus. Experiences with jerry and becky is looking around. He's like what the fuck you know. I know jerry and becky like this like pretty relaxed lifestyle.
"two guys" Discussed on In God We Lust
"A arusha. Have you ever been on a private plane. Of course i mean how do you think i get to our recording sessions. While i assumed you walk from your bedroom to the closet but common misconception well in late. September two thousand twelve giancarlo. Granda does step onto a private plane. He's dressed in business casual jeans and open collared white shirt and a blazer once. He's in his seat. He cracks open a book. It's a memoir. The story of scrappy. Kid from queens. Who becomes a real estate. Developer puts his name on lots of buildings and gold lettering and eventually runs for president. Donald trump he up okay so trump was actually born to a rich slum lord who gave him millions of dollars to start his own businesses. But you know who's keeping track giancarlo is reading trump's famous bestseller the art of the deal. It's got expressions of good christian values like the time. He punched his music teacher in the second grade. Why is giancarlo reading art of the deal while it could be because he dreamed of having a bright future in business or he might be brushing up on his trump reading. Because he's about to meet the man himself becky falwell's sent giancarlo and invitation to exclusive club. His name is on a list of people who are going to have a private lunch with donald during a visit to liberty university the private plane. He's on a former administrator at liberty told us they sent it to miami just to bring giancarlo here on campus giancarlo meets with jerry becky in the green room behind the stage where trump appears. It's nice lots of dark wood. Dark colors a spread with drinks and snacks. The follows greet their vip guests. And they introduce giancarlo around. There's conservative politician in rising star. Michelle bachmann and there's trump's personal attorney and and fixer. michael cohen. wait you mean. The guy who went to prison for paying off stormy daniels wanted only and of course donald trump joschka venzke investigative reporter for talking points. Memo says it was a big moment for giancarlo grutter members when jerry introduces trump. Jerry describes as our friend from the fontane blue and trump. i think kind of hilariously has this quote. Raise like favorite guests at the durrell. Hang out at The fontane blue always selling businesses. There's a photo of the moment. Giancarlo and trump smiling at each other and shaking hands jerry and becky in the background. I feel like it's one of those handshakes where trump grips giancarlos hand for like an uncomfortable amount of time. Oh you know it is later in the day. They're all on a campus tour. Donald trump. the falwell's michael cohen and giancarlo one of the stops is liberty campus skate park but michael cohen has his eye on something else. Michael on the tour and is walking with this real estate. Friend of and michael cohen notices What's up with twenty one twenty two year old and asked the guy who's that and the real estate partner response is a business partner of the falwell's michael cohen goes. Yeah i mean calling giancarlo business. Partner of the falwell's isn't exactly untrue but Remember how jerry wanted him to find some real estate miami for them to invest in and then giancarlo would manage the investment While giancarlos found that property. And it's not exactly what you would imagine. As the perfect investment for the falwell's it's a cheap miami beach hostile that's been described as quote gay friendly that does not sound like the liberty way. No nothing about this. Real estate deal will go as planned for anyone involved. It's going to lead to questions and ultimately it will be this real estate deal that causes the world to i learn about the connection between giancarlo and the falwell's grove collaborative is an online marketplace. That delivers natural and healthy home. Beauty and personal care products directly to your door. Yeah i definitely get to my cleaning supplies from grove because my husband loves to just use bleach everywhere. Yeah i remember. I have to flee with grove. It's nice because i'm not worried about. What are we breathing. One is my dog and making the switch to natural products has never been easier and for a limited time when our listeners to grove dot co slash pool boy. You'll get to choose a free gift with your first order of thirty dollars or more go to grove dot co slash pool boy to get your exclusive offer that's grove dot co slash pool. Boy one of america's deadly school shootings took place at my high school in colorado. After the massacre our country wondered will our schools ever be safe again. My name is amy over. I'm a survivor of the columbine shooting and host of the new podcast confronting columbine bench the entire series of confronting columbine right now early in ad. Free when you join. Wanna replace in the app.
Baker Mayfield’s Contract With Cleveland Browns Extended Through 2022
"The Cleveland Browns picked up the fifth year option for Baker Mayfield. Guaranteed at least two more seasons of the man, maybe more. He gets that contract extension and he's eligible for He was selected number one overall in the draft. That included Sam Donald two spots after him, Sam Donald looking for a new start right now, with Carolina Panthers. You can also take a look at Josh Allen selected at seventh overall, he played at an M V p level last year. And then someone who did when the M V P And has a regular season record. This is just ridiculous. I think the record might be 30 and seven Is Lamar Jackson. Baker Mayfield is to do that's just like you would select the number one. How come the other two guys had better careers or better starts than you? Baker did throw 27 touchdowns that rookie year. He did regressing year too. He did light it up last year. Think Baker is the man. I think he is the long term answer. The Cleveland Browns. I think he is able to turn things around, especially with all of the talent that he has around him because he doesn't have to do it
Who Are Your Bristol Fantasy NASCAR Picks?
"Dragon joining us for this final fantasy segment. As i told you last week i was able to record any of the segment leaders for this week. But i did get your winter. This winter for the final ap weekly fantasy league is tia. Fell w join the revolution with a score of two hundred and forty eight points. Good job now. The picks this week are pretty simple. There's three key drivers that i'm looking at that. I'm pretty sure everyone is going to have on their lineup. So we're probably looking at a bonus points race this weekend but to get you started. Kyle larson in the five car. Everybody knows he is the guy to beat in the dirt anywhere. He goes in any kind of car and the second guy. Christopher bell in the twenty car also very good in the dirt and the third guy will take a look at is tyler rhetoric in the car so we have zero stats to pump at you today. Because this is nascar's very first cup race in the dirt in the modern era with that being said folks. It's going to be super important to keep an eye on both of those practice sessions friday night as well as all four qualifier races on saturday based on those results should be able to round out the rest of your team for sunday. All right folks.
Chicago Bears' tweet makes it clear that Andy Dalton is 'QB1'
"Can we say the bears would have been better off keeping mitchell trubisky. Can we or candy. I'm going to say we can. And just in general with all the decisions that ryan place makes. They're probably all wrong. I would probably lean toward the other way just when you look at it on his face. Andy dalton is a lesser player mitchell. Trubisky we saw that with the qbr. The two guys last year. Don't have a bunch of weapons down in dallas still. Couldn't find a way to be able to get it done so that the bears earned were spot quarterback wise than they were. I would agree with you. What is confounding in every conceivable way and it is magnified by chicago. Bears social media yesterday on twitter. The bears posted that last night. That picture you see there of dalton and a bears uniform with a message. Qb one and adam schefter quote tweeting it by saying it's a statement from the bears which indeed it
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"Now. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that king is as good a writer as fitzgerald. Because he's not but this line has stuck in my head like i. I've read gatsby like twice in my life. And this is one of my favorite lines. Because i can feel the motion. I it's almost like i am riding. A wave of lawn and plants and trees that truly are crashing on the shore flowing up to and then over overflowing this house and it really feels like it's all in motion because of the wirtz that fitzgerald uses and but king was really is really reminiscent of that for me here in charlie's obsession of the lawn that comes up to the wall insists howdy and does not fuck around. It does not fuck around. Well that's as good a place as any to end. This episode of two guys to the dark tower came. Thanks jake. thank you links to. All of our social media is available in the show notes if you liked the show. Please write us on apple podcasts to support the show visit patriot. Dot com slash. Two guys dr.
School Shootings Drove Stephen King To Take 'Rage' Off The Shelves
"In this episode. We'll cover the bachmann book rage chapters one through twenty. Let's start the show high school senior. Charlie decker facing expulsion for salting. His chemistry teacher sets the contents of his locker on fire gets a pistol and returns to his algebra class or he kills the teacher and then a history teacher who comes to investigate holding the rest of the class degeorge decker reveals information about his troubled childhood and some of the other students begin to share their own secrets and feelings. That's quite the setup. sean. Yes so jay. This story rage was originally written at least started being written by king in one thousand nine hundred sixty six when he was a senior in high school and then he finished it in one thousand nine hundred seventy one and at that point it was titled getting it on Decker says that phrase multiple times throughout the section of the book king wanted to publish it like under his name right away but his publisher doubleday did want over saturate the market so this was the first case where they said all right. Well let's do it under a pseudonym and he submitted it as getting it on by guy pillsbury which is kings grandfather's name so that was going to be the original pseudonym he was going to use and there's a twitter user who just started following a couple of weeks ago named guy pillsbury so i thought that was a nice deep cut that is really deep. Cut yeah when he submitted his guy pillsbury. A number of people at the publishing house knew about king having a book called getting it odd and so the secret was already out. They pulled it and said okay and then he resubmitted as as richard bachman and submitted his with the new title rage and richard. Bachman i was because he had a richard stark book sitting on his desk and bachman turner overdrive was playing on the radio and so he was looking around. And there. you go richard bachman. Sorta like the Deficient the light bulb coming together to form the homer simpson logo number one. Lucky joe exactly so. This is actually his fourth published book. It came after kerry salem slot in the shining and just before the stand this was nineteen seventy seven it was published and then it was obviously republished in the bachman books in one thousand nine hundred eighty five. And if you're like my father you'll notice that this is not a book that is easy to come by nowadays. He was unable to find it when he was looking forward on. Different places and that is because after number of school shootings that had some tenuous ties to rage. There's at least one where the kid had a copy of the book his locker but some of the other ones may have referenced it or not king let the book go out of print in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight so all the other bachman books are now published as standalone novels. But this one is not in the forward to the bachmann book. Blaze king writes about rage. This is now out of print and a good thing. And if you go to the stephen king dot com website look up rage. No future printings will be made of this novel. At stevens request due to the sensitive nature of the content
Hamish Martin - The Secret Garden Edinburgh
"Hamish maltin co founder of the secret herb garden and the secret garden distillery. Thank you so much for joining me on the podcast today. I spent a time researching you yesterday. Hamish i fell in love with with you and your business. I even downloaded a copy of the secret garden book to listen to on audible when i'm driving up to scotland in some of this year so really looking for having a chat but before we get going where in the world you hamish. Well thank you I'm sitting currently in a study. An highest rebuild on sites which is secret have gone and to just outside edinburgh foot of the pentland hills Seven half acre have nasseri gotten. Wow it looks absolutely incredible another. I can say this. All of these podcasts lakes are used to go and do them all face to face and then covert came along. So i've had to learn to record remotely. But yet god i wanted to come and sit in that god. When i was looking at the pictures of online yesterday looks absolutely beautiful. So you are literally. i think. Probably obsesses world by by herbs and plants to the extent that i understand. You've grow six hundred of them yourself. So i thought maybe start with as you could just go through six hundred and let me know the attributes of now we went we do that. But that's that's quite impressive but it's hard to know where to start in many ways because you you've got a sharper distillery herb nursery revenge garden. You run events weddings so much more. But i i guess the backdrop to all of that is your love of plants. So if it's okay. We'll start there. And i'm just wondering when you decided you wanted a life changing you wanted. Your future to revolve around plants will win. Was that what was the trigger. That led you to sort of start. Studying tackles while i used to have back from another life. I used to have a a wine. Business in scotland colin variety which I started with my father. He cited possibly nineteen ago. But i'd already been the as. I love the wine trade because it was involved with the grapes in the growing. But i'd always had my loss of line. The small tiny piece land when i was twenty to stop growing always be addicted with hill running while swimming being was a while camping all that sort of debugging and all that sort of stuff But i i spent From ninety one to two years so computers at twelve years ago on a built in priority up and obviously supplying tiles and restaurants scotland and also down than With mine that i really sort of lost the soul of it Building business building a business and my real passion was in growing the plants. That is spending so much of my free time day and being outside and i thought you know what i don't change my lifetime Another will and actually went through a big change in my life at that point anyway and it was right on. I'm doing it and it was very big. Cutoff began Ended up selling in radicals. Now in morton's up here. And i retrained botanic gardens rob gardens edinburgh for two years and came home and i traveled quite a bit and worked with a Medicine management you call medicine man in north north america which doctor and south african to really understand thoughts. And it's not until you sit feed someday truly connected to From this and i had no idea where the path was going to take in any respect. All i knew was that i want to spend the rest of my life with hats. Specifically specifically hubs Any was a leap of faith To it but i'm not sure that you've announced your question but that but it i'd love it though. I love the fact that yeah that you do. Do you just sort of made that decision. It seems like a cooling and the more we hear about how much you can do with plants. I'm going to ask a medicine man in north america. That sounds fascinating. Wh what was involved. There is his his remarkable jensen nat Booth by trying to his. He's written some books action about the moments in my study. Here i is all about medicine will welcoming nature Basically it is hard school of of learning It's not sort of any books in words. It's more physical actions that side and understanding the communication that you can have with the outside world And it was. It's an ancient ancient System we've lost the connection in our modern world that actually is still very vibrant in in the community in the in the wildest Connection with nature and really was just to learn more about that so he very much taught me a lot more about the connection of nature and hides commune with nature and the rich dodson. South africa was phenomenal. Man he was all about how to what the policy was. Just specifically hub in a medicine with lawns And that's what i'd studied. And i grow hers but i don't grow herbs. I grow because of a lot of people think especially in the hospital. They hobbs a nice culinary aromatic plants and yet actually good for nature definition of a hub for me is its medicinal full. Stop so when you look at plants says medicinal you look at our own indigenous plants. That means chick we ground other than the line oak. Alda it means opens the door to every indigent in a wild plants even more so my hope my whole path has been to aim for more information and what with the medicinal on medicinal level. Sounds incredible i. I would love that adventure. I've just at this. I think i did an interview with somebody on on mushrooms and had no idea about the sort of the the my caelian underground the ground and how connected everything is and then that took me down the rabbit hole of trees and i just read a book called over story of you heard of that one. I haven't what what what. What was this a fiction book. It's fundamentally about. I suppose how. How the growth of trees put the sort of the the context of our time on earth and generations in context. But i just find a amazing how connected nature is so. Yeah i think i would. I would love to go on on that sort of adventure journey was. Was there any key things you learn from either of those two guys that really stands so sticks in your memory that may be reaffirmed that decision for you to have that sort of life change anything that really jumped out and you went. Wow that's incredible. I'm so glad. I'm on this adventure. Two things to one. You have two quite deep yourself And secondly is making sure that you on following any rules any rules any any known. Science rules excetera is all about the key. Word is imagination able to unlock the opportunity. I find it quite. I find science by straight yet. We live in a world now where we can't move because signs sector. Don't get me wrong. I believe in living in a balanced life taking sides and taking pods and somewhere in between is is is a balanced This science that we talk about entire nine science knows. Trees communicate together Is this this brand new science. No it's not in our. This has been known by indigenous peoples for millenniums. You know we're just very backward when it comes to We think brilliant on science but actually when it comes to that in the communication that happens. It's not just underneath the solar trees the helping to feed one another one's ill communication with the russians in. This always happens on plants as well you know. There is a communication plots. I'm not wearing assigned was not meant to be told there is an indication of vibration happens on a rock on a on a in the waters in the trees in the flies. It's all around us. It's a thin bail just to be able to then have a look underneath and then have that communication with it so i find that bit about science. I'm reading a beautiful book at the moment job and chat about how science is not catching up with all the sort of in a in a watkins of trees and how they work in the family unit etcetera etcetera. But that's been known for a very very very very long time
NCAA Tournament West Preview
"It's ncaa tournament time we had championship. Week was absolutely spectacular. You had a championship game. That wasn't so spectacular in america conference by the big twelve was tremendous big. Ted was tremendous. Because you know what those two leagues are tremendous all season. Long games aren't games. they're events the acc was anti climactic but great for josh passenger and the greatest shield in the history of life. The big east to me was phenomenal. I mean patrick ewing. Not only does he no longer needed credential again but he got into madison square garden and walked away with four games in four days and his team played like an old vintage georgetown team. Pac twelve stolen a bid which was really cool. Wayne tinkle's got it was who was on the hot seat. It was so cool is good coach. A good person attack boil. Who's another great guy still going tournament. So i thought championship week was absolutely spectacular. Your take oh. I thought it was great. I look. I'm gonna tell you houston's legit at chance due to their games including the championship game in the ac. That is a legitimate. I was happy that drake dot in. I was happy that twenty five and four guy in. I thought that was terrific. I love the fact that the drew brothers are in the tournament. The demolishing of creighton shocked the living in. Hell on me. And says i'm telling you i like when you lose guys mclaughlin aquino record and next thing you know man. What are you doing better. The next year matt pain and getting himself in the top four seeds after losing two guys eastern and harms but overawe a look championship. Week was the sec. Tournament was off the charts with the championship. Game and college basketball delivers it delivers every damn nights. Let's go to the west ready. Let's do it all right now. Let's do this number one seat. I was thinking what games in the upper half of the west. Are you looking forward to see. I wanna see what. Oklahoma can do eight nine game now. Maybe it doesn't matter because you're gonna play gonzaga. But i think this i think if you're gonna play along krueger team whether you're konso martyn missouri. Who has struggled or whether you're gonzaga. You know you're going to play a very very good basketball team. And i had them earlier in the year they can shoot it. They defend it. They play hard. I don't think they're overly talented and the kid to get something done but lon kruger is so good at dictating pace. That if i'm sitting here with gonzaga i wanna lesser coach in my second round game assuming that they win. What do you got. Well you know i actually. I think missouri can win that game. A jeremiah tells me he's going to have to go out guard on out on a primitive 'cause they're playing brady at the five and they've run them all over the place on the other side though rate mattis gutter guard that dude on the block to is become a good player control martin's team when they're older and more mature and her physical they are talking tournament. Think about what he did tennessee. So you know this is going to be really good game because you've got a tough physical team in missouri. You've got a team that attacks match ups plays almost four guards in oklahoma. I'm actually leaning towards missouri in this match up. Well you're going to be wrong and that's okay you can be. It's okay. I can be wrong. It will be the first time won't be the last time and you know that's right. I don't have either. We'll on from barry. I but i touched on that but also got to say tony bennett said that most of his team is in quarantine south. Now i don't know about you but that preston kid that plays at ohio university. Ooh yeah he can go and all of a sudden. You're talking about a team that wait a second. I know i know. Virginia's good. I know virginia came on. I know they ended up with the one seat in the acc tournament. But seth you're playing against a hot as hell ohio university team. A team led by jeff bowls. Who frankly he's the perga- guide ohio you because he loves ohio you. He played there with the with the shock of the mac. But when you're playing a team in quarantine sat that tells me they're not practicing. That tells me this is gonna be a hats. This'll be a good game regardless.
Chiefs release Eric Fisher, Mitchell Schwartz
"Are very lucky. Chris canty that we have breaking news. Because otherwise i would be sitting here yelling at human. They are yelling at me to go immediately to diana. Rossini lonzo has breaking news out of kansas city. Diana what are we have. Yeah adam schefter. Just broke at the kansas city chiefs have now made to gigantic cuts. Both of their tackle. Starting left tackle eric fisher and right tackle jeff schwartz. These two are key players on this offensive line. We know that they didn't play in the super bowl. Obviously eric fisher tours achilles right before so he was unable to play in it and jeff fisher was really working hard. Excuse me jeff. Shorts was really working hard to come back and he said on instagram himself that he was going to be one hundred percent ready to go for this upcoming season. We talked last week all about this week. Being a really difficult week we called it. A massacre at least one coach told me that. And that's what it is. Look at what. The kansas city chiefs are doing off of line that we knew were struggling in the super bowl because they didn't have those two guys no longer on the team. Now
A Review Of The Long Walk, Chapters 9-18
"The long walk continues with only sixty. Walkers remaining geared is determined to make it to freeport or he'll see his mother and girlfriend jan more walkers get their tickets and the boys continue their discussions as physical and mental exhaustion weigh on them eventually. The long walk enters massachusetts and only three boys remain gary mic varieties and stebens. Only one will be the last walker standing but even so at what price victory. Nice day were in this section of the book and one of the things we talked about last episode is how we were a little disappointed that there wasn't a lot more world building going on yeah King seemed to be very vague as to what sort of relived these characters were in boys going on. We got the sense that things weren't great but not all of the details and in this one. There's a lot more of that world building we're looking for. Yeah it definitely satisfied my craving for those details. I still don't know that it was enough for my my modern sensibilities if you will I wanted to know what was going on. Outside of the walk and king still doesn't really reveal that but he gives us just a little bit more of a taste. Oh those are so delicious. Yeah each one of them is pretty great. The fact there's now thirty first day of april. Yeah that was the first one in this section. I was like whoa and you know. We talked about the dark tower. There were times early on. We're like boy. That's a weird little editing mistake. At first i thought well maybe april thirty. One is an editing mistake but then there were a couple more came shortly thereafter. That you're like. Oh kings doing something here. Yeah yeah there were fifty one states. When i saw that my immediate question was what is that fifty for state. I mean it could be anything is is it. Puerto rico is his canada. I don't know like it could be so many things it could be half of. Mexico is the fifty first state. It's not really important to the story. But it would be kinda cool to have one of those jr token style maps or like the the dark tower style maps that shows the world of the long walk and the path that they walk. Yep and then you can see like now. There's this you know. East pennsylvania and west pennsylvania. Yeah you're not even thinking big enough jay. Maybe like the western eight states all disappeared or were destroyed and so then they picked up nine states that we don't have today and not not just one new one. What do you think of that. Yeah or maybe california finally broke into five pieces. Resold alaska back to the russians for for a net total of one game state. Yeah and cut off. Florida like bugs. Bunny does in that. Famous jif yup. Yeah there were other interesting facts. That that Apparently there were german air raids on the east coast of the united states. And there's clearly has been some kind of takeover. The major seems to be the figurehead leader or commander of this Of the united states. So i'm guessing some sort of military coup but somebody says in the old days before the change and the squads when they were still millionaires like basically went before before a lot of wealth was redistributed to who knows who knows in what way but clearly this is not the world that king lived through when he was writing this story. Right the most intriguing one was this idea that world war two was different in how it played out so there's talks about german raids on the east coast. That occurred that people were afraid of and then later on they talk about the provo governor who is a war hero. He led a raid on a german nuclear base in santiago in nineteen fifty three. So yeah this is definitely not the world that is just hey our world bit in the future. This is a total man in the high castle. Style alternate reality or maybe even a father callahan like slipping through alternate versions of of the universe or of the of the world making this whole story. Kind of dark tower finney.
Meghan and Harry's Oprah interview
"Meghan Markle and Prince Harry interview. That's gonna be on CBS eight o'clock on Sunday night, and that should be something. Everyone's talking about it Monday. I'm sure will be trending. Anderson previews right. What might go on with in that interview with Oprah Winfrey. It says here that let me play a couple of these here. Meghan Markle seeks her own voice right amongst the Royals. Find out. We got about four good clips here, So I just want to say that I called you either February or march 2018 before the wedding asking, Would you please give me an interview? And you said I'm sorry. It's not the right time. And finally we get to sit down and have this conversation. I remember that conversation very well. I wasn't even allowed to have that conversation with you personally. Right. There had to be people from the compass sitting there rather everything with their other people in the room. When I was having that conversation, you turn me down nicely and said, Uh, perhaps there will be another time when there is the right time. What is right about this time? Um Back on her feet, right? Um Wow. Holy smokes. That's kind of the interviews to be nine hours long. You could sell a commercial in that time, right? Well, when they plan to e mean, you know you could literally you could do one here. It's Carter for trading. Go to hit our trades dot com or run a cunning dental Tripoli. 6 40 smile so many things. Um That we're on the other side of a lot What it was like those that were on the other side of a lot of I can't wait to see this. By the way, there's going to be really a great interview, CBS. Sunday night at eight. A lot of life experience that's happened and also that we have The ability to make our own choices in a way that I couldn't have said Yes to you, then that wasn't my choice to make so as an adult who lived a really independent life to then go into this. Construct. That is, um Different than I think what people imagine it to be. It's really liberating to be able to have The right and the privilege in some ways to be able to say yes. I mean to say to yourself not to have to consult with anybody at this point to be able to just make a choice on your own and just be able to speak for yourself. Well, you know what? That it's not just the royal family. It's with a lot of things in life. Like, um like, for instance. You know if you were when, when we did shows over a Disney and you waited my remote to Disney. There were two people there from Disney that we're listening to the show while we're doing it just to make sure it conforms to what Disease works so hard on which is their image, right? I'm not gonna have two guys come in, and, you know, swearing and telling off color jokes at Disneyland, right? And with almost everything. Like I can't do an interview with the L a times about the workings of my heart media without you know, contacting somebody here diehard media, They just would they would frown upon that. S so it's It's not the world family is is exactly like that. It's a business. And and so you don't get that freedom when you join that family to just do whatever you want, And she knew that going in. He's going to say, Didn't she know that everybody knows that? Everybody knows that s O. It's just how she doesn't refer to them as the royal family or the Windsor. She first to them as the firm. Oh, wow. This is gonna be great. How long is this interview's in two hours. It was. It was supposed to be 90 minutes and they increased it to two hours. And that's because there's a lot of money involved right there. They're getting like $325,000 for 32nd commercials. Viacom is giving Oprah between seven and $9 million for licensing fees. It's already been sold in 17 countries, including a million in the UK It's great to see Oprah finally getting a check. I know. I mean, she struggled later, right? That's really gonna help. All right. Here's more of it. The big interview CBS this Sunday at 8 P.m.. Right after 60 minutes. Wow, what Anything British
New Insights on the Bruins' Disappointing Week
"A great way for Bruins not a great week. I know they ended it on our early started next week Sunday. They started to walk on a good note, but not ending particularly. Well, there are a lot of problems. What was the biggest to you? Well, I mean, obviously the the one where you look at just the Optics of it right is the defense, right? I mean you give up 13 goals in two games. I think everyone get concerned about that and I think that's wrong. You see the right flag is you know, you're seeing way too many transition goals created chances in front of Rask and a lot, but the thing is is that that's always a concern. Oh shit. Like when you go that many goals. I'm sure not to spend learning but also, I mean I look at it right where I think we all are in agreement of the rooms and needs more depth on the blue. Looks like we've talked about at home last week. Like that's a guy they need right? So this isn't any surprise and when you missing three starters on your blue line, you know, including two guys in lausanne and Thursdays are good at kind of showing up that net front and girls like ew, you know as much as I think people are now the critics been hurt. I feel like there's like the The Narrative of like, oh they can they they can do well without them, you know, he's an injury-prone. Even though it's really only been kind of this year. We're didn't really really bad. But you know you miss Chris leak in his ability to get the puck out and you know, get the brake outgoing and hit those first passes cuz off these games have been stuck in their own Zone with for checking issues. So but you look at that defense, right you miss those three guys, you have back and iron in a top pairing roll and you know, yes potential. I mean we've seen multiple times we're out of something. He's big enough yet to handle some of these guys and he's been just kind of Knocked around by Chris Kreider which led to a goal. He got knocked around by Andrews Lee and pushed around which led to Chicago gets the island is so I mean you go to depleted decor and you know, you got drawn more playing like the minutes and he did not look very good. The last two games so wage. Obviously, you're shorthanded you hopefully you hope that a shorthand unit doesn't give up 13 goals, but still it's not expected. But you had to know that there was going to be some issues with your going to be giving birth. One more chance has given how the state of your Decor is. Now.
The Route: A New Line that Blends Medical Grade Beauty and Luxury Skincare
"Today. My gorgeous co hosts. Are courtney baber and nurse. Nancy founders of the route skin-care. This is a relatively blue line and speaking of new. I hear that this is your first podcast. It is is our prod. Cast my mouth. You built me on five cats. I'm so honored to have you ladies here here. You're both in california yes right. We explains that sunny gorgeous. Glow that you both have. I was interested. Now full disclosure. I have not tried anything from the line. So i just like to be honest year But i'm always interested in new lines in one of the things that i loved when i was reading your stories that you It seems like you really set out to sort of bridge the gap between medical grade products. And you know sort of the The sephora ulta line right because courtney you have a history of launching brands a pretty big brand insofar can you tell us a little bit about that sure So we definitely when we set out to to launch the brand. We really wanted to bring medical grade skin care to a wider audience. A haitian of nazis for ten years and she transformed my skin and she did it with medical grade products and the little bit of other goodies but and both of us have had access to every skincare brand. You can imagine out there. Were both in our fifties. We've been doing what we've in thirty years. We'd stop that no really yes. Wow these six in may. Wow oh my gosh. If people are listening to this right now you need to go to youtube and check. These two guys are i. I'm i'm i'm blown away. I i was also sweet. I be honest. Wow really okay. Now tell me everything. Great care it really is I think both of our skin looks better. We've been at this for about five years. Testy macro The last few years We actually while relate the end twenty nine thousand nine. We launched the brand but We we use our. We use our products and you practice what we preach
Stay-At-Home Mom Starts Bamboo Baby Biz
"Thicky weinberg is a momma to based in the uk used to have a corporate job but suffered from post natal depression. After our first child was born she then retrained as a children's yoga teacher in cape local class during her second pregnancy picky had some issues with her hip and back then she couldn't teach anymore. It had to find someone to cover her classes but by the time the baby was born she was ready to do something anything even though she didn't know what one dave vicky was listening to pat plans smart passive income. Podcasts she heard a story about two guys selling products on amazon. The idea of living on the beach with laptop wasn't her kind of lifestyle but having the freedom to work whenever and wherever she wanted that was being an idea sparked to create a brand of high quality baby products that can be used reused and gifted to other families and so when our second baby was only six weeks. Old tiny chipmunk came to life as well. Vicki knew she wanted to create a range of bamboo baby products and use google's keyword tool to research. What would come first. She leaned on baby swallows and used ninety nine designs to find a logo design by. She went to alibaba dot com to search for a supply at the same time. She ordered samples of similar products from amazon to scope out. The existing market wants. Her product was ready. Vicky place the order spent time building her website making an amazon listing. She worked whenever she could which was mostly when the kids snapped and even though it took her about eight months to get to launch. She's glad she did. Tiny chipmunk has become vicki's main work. Bogus bring at least twenty five thousand dollars a year in profit. She doesn't have to work set hours because the business mostly runs itself in fact even though she had to homeschool her kids and cut back on her hours over the past year sales remained steady. Still there have been some challenges. at first. she had no idea what legal disclaimers and other information. She had to put on your packing so she went back to google and ninety nine designs to find a packaging designer but she never received a sample from her chosen supplier before placing the full order. This turned out to be a big mistake because the quality was poor. The cardboard was way too thin and kept ripping which led to products getting damaged luckily option by the time she restocked she could go back in time. Vicky also says she wouldn't have tried to do everything herself nor tried to be everywhere at the same time. Most of the marketing strategy she tried didn't work ended up costing her money and time a better approach would have been for her to focus on one sales channel for example one social media platform and build from there. Fortunately as her business has grown vicky has to nowadays. She doesn't just sell products online. She also coaches other people who want to sell products. She's happy to work on both projects. They feel good. They fit in with your family life. She chooses what she does. She does it for as well as where when. And how as a bonus she's also gained confidence and new connections going forward. The plan is to launch more of her own products while helping other people create and sell. There's no plans to do less one on one coaching. Instead move towards more group. Coaching and courses it all starts with baby steps.
Lady Gaga's dog-walker shot and bulldogs stolen
"The Lady Gaga? Saga with I guess this robbery and her dog. Walker was shot and critically wounded. Her dogs have been taken. She's over or was in Italy. I didn't realize people were allowed to be in Italy. That sounds amazing, but she's put out a half million dollar reward to try to resolve this situation. The thing that struck me was a as a dog lover. The idea of someone stealing Roy is just Infuriating to me and heartbreaking. But I also couldn't get over how much of the reaction in the media and on social media? Involved people playing up the dog angle and sort of as an afterthought, saying, Oh, and by the way, the dog Walker was shot in the chest and is in the hospital is like, okay, that's As much as I love dogs. That's sort of the lead here, and the good news is that person is now in stable condition out of critical condition. That's excellent news. But I just wonder as Music lover, a dog lover and an opponent of people getting shot in the chest. How you're feeling about this story. So as a dog lover and a friend she owner My heart is right because we know that our dogs are our babies. They're part of our family and you know, and people who have kids and have got you know the love that you have for both, and You know how much you love your dog as part of your family, So my heart really, really broke for her. I had my dog stolen from Seattle back in the nineties that a new English bulldog And she was returned by the grace of God. Thankfully, and I hope the same thing happens for Lady gaga because my heart is, you know, it's like We all love our dogs. But I have a special fondness for Frenchies. And obviously she does, too. And I hope that her fans are just relentless. And you know, pursuit of the horrific people. I hope the two guys who did it are charged with attempted murder, which you know, just because You weren't successful doesn't mean you shouldn't have the exact same punishment as someone who committed murder The guy Ryan, her dog. Walker was bleeding to death on the sidewalk. The only reason he's alive because of quick thinking neighbor work to stop the bleeding while performing chest compressions all at the same time. And S O. That's how his life was saved. But you know, it's just the brutality. The coldness of just shooting someone in the chest and leading them for dead over to animals is awful. I hope this guy makes a full recovery and He's heroic because not only was he fighting these two guys who had a gun pointed at him, he literally put his life on the line. But then, when he was shot, he still hung on to the third dog. It's an incredible person. I mean, that is a truly self with person and I hope that I get my coat in the story. He might get a little bonus from Lady Gaga for his trouble. I mean, what an amazing So is it basically confirmed. Sounds like you have much more granular detail on this than I do is it confirmed that these robbers were specifically targeting the dogs? On purpose, like they showed up with the goal of stealing her dogs. And we're willing to apparently kill to get them is. Is that what we know? That's what it sounds like. You don't you don't know motive yet because they have not obviously apprehended that you guys, but I hope they do. I know the LAPD and FBI working Together on this, and it's scary for people just walking around a normal neighborhood and one of the neighbors said We all do this. We walk around the neighborhood with our dogs. Every night. It's it's not uncommon on you know, he said, Like the guy wasn't a braggart. He wouldn't advertise that he was Dog sitting for Lady Gaga. He was just, you know, obviously a super sweet and lovely person and man. I just I hope they catch those bastards and I hope that they rot in jail. Mean judo and let's make that happen. The other thing, I'll just the last thing I'll say on this is I am not a super fan of Lady Gaga. I think that she's very talented. I like some of her pop songs. I think she has Really impressive musical chops beyond just sort of the box that she puts out and she's demonstrated that many times she also strikes me for various reasons is someone that you do not want. To make your enemy. And these people now have a very powerful, very wealthy enemy that they have made, and I hope that they are made to pay. By the way I have to
Senate Democrats move immediately to "Plan B" on minimum wage
"Yesterday we told you That the parliamentarian head ruled that the dollar minimum wage does not pass muster for reconciliation and must be taken out of a covid relief. Bill now We clarified unlike most of the media. That the parliamentary and actually has no power whatsoever It is just give an advisory opinion is not an actual ruling. The person who does the ruling is actually the presiding chair of the senate was normally is the vice president so comma. Harris is going to have a huge part in this conversation now wants the parliamentarian gave her so called ruling. All the democrats immediately gave up on fifteen dollars minimum wage as things stand now they are going to be taking that provision is going to be taken out of the bill and we will not get fifteen dollar minimum wage for at least four years now. There is a way to prevent it. There are four steps here. I'm going to walk through all four steps and you will see that if we do this. It's actually very doable. To keep it in the bill and to actually win on this issue but it requires courage from progressives and then Requires us to put public pressure on some of our allies and then eventually to the biden administration and sure so step one is unfortunately right now the most important step and where we're going to have to call out bernie sanders bernie sanders. Is the chair of the budget committee. The chair of the budget committee the signs. What is in the kobe. Relief bill bernie sanders. Current plan is to take fifteen dollars minimum wage out of the covid relief. Bill that is a terrible idea. He should not do that. If corporate democrats are going to vote against let them vote against it but doing it on their behalf. i cannot overstate. What a bad idea that is in that scenario that right now is what is going to happen unless we change it together bernie would kill the fifteen dollar minimum wage on behalf of joe manchin and joe by. He should not do that. So that's this is step one. I'm going to get to the other steps in a second guys. I need you to immediately participate. We've got a campaign we've got a partition and and we've got hashtags. We must do all of the above and the campaign is called. Don't kill it bernie because yes step one indisputably. It is a matter of fact. Is that the budget chair decides if it goes in the bill that is bernie sanders. That was the whole point of him being budget share. If he's going to take out. Fifteen dollar minimum wage will take out every provision the joe manchin and joe biden are opposed to that means we will get no progressive priorities past none. The fifteen dollars. Minimum wage was literally the bare minimum. It was the first ask of progressives so bernie. You've got to keep it in the bill because if he does not keep it in the bill. It's over that hashtag fight for fifteen. There is no more fight. That means progressive surrender. I'm being honest with you. Guys our job is to do the news. Those are the facts of how this process works so go to the petition. All right and here. Let's put it up for you guys and it's simply called. Don't kill it bernie. And what is saying is we don. T have a clear message. Don't take it out of the bill. It's one hundred percent your call on whether you keep it in the bill or take it out of the bill. Do not do that because if you take it out of the bill and you kill it then we will not be able to get back to it for four long years and there's no reason for it so and and if you're tweeting about this at all please use hashtag. Don't kill it bernie. Because we must get senator sanders to turn around. There are no other steps if he takes it out of the bill now if he keeps it in the bill now let me walk you through how we could actually win on this step two would be since it's in the bill. The presiding officer of the senate would have to rule to take it out of the bill. So kamala harris who in her role as the vp would normally be the presiding officer. The senate would have to actively vote with republicans or side with republicans the and the parliamentarian for what it's worth again. The parliamentarian has no vote. No power just gave a rando opinion on what they think they should do it. The republicans would never care about it. It it has no force of law at all. in fact it's being used as an excuse by kamla harris show schumer and the others to kill a provision. They were never in favor of so. Then we have to put pressure on comma harris to not side with mitch mcconnell. Can we do that. Yes yes we can definitely do that. If chuck schumer wants to protect com la- harris and he puts another senator in as the presiding officer. Will they will put pressure on chuck schumer. Would you like to continue to be the senator from new york. There are a lot of progressives in new york very very strong. Progressives in new york that could easily take that seat not easily but that could certainly have a shot at taking that seat. So now here's the most part steps three if she decides to take it out of the bill. There's nothing we can do about it comma harrison show schumer will then actively be saying okay. We killed the fifteen dollar minimum wage because we never wanted in the first place but if we get past that step and go. You win you win. We're keeping it in the bill. Then mitch. Mcconnell would object. Mitch mcconnell would then say. I want to appeal the ruling of the chair. Now here's a great news. Since joe manchin a cinema cap the filibuster and so two joe biden. They would need sixty votes to overrule the chair. So that means they need to break our filibuster to overrule the ruling of the chair. They're not gonna get sixty votes. We win okay. There is a separate more but understand before we go to step four step. Four is awesome but right now you understand how simple it is with. Depression brought to keep it in the bill. We have to pressure mention not mansion comma harris and chuck schumer to not side with republicans. Why god is a progressive movement. If we can't do that what can we do. Do we have any power or don't we have any power. Were about to find out. And then step for is if the republicans cannot break the filibuster. The mcconnell has one last option and this is wonderfully ironic. He would have to ask for fifty vote margin and straight up and down. Vote to kill the filibuster in regards to the votes of the presiding chair of the senate now mansion cinema have said that and biden said that the filibuster is the most precious thing in the world to them. So what are they going to. Now turn around just to make sure you don't get higher wages and they're gonna vote to kill the filibuster in this regard. I mean you would be the most spectacularly hypocritical thing they have ever done and they've done some pretty hypocritical fix so you put them in an near impossible situation and it is incredibly doable but step one is do not surrender. Guys one last thing before we go to john and jordan. There's ninety two billion dollars online. This would be a pay raise for about thirty million americans and to the tune of ninety two billion dollars every single year the reason why biden mansion and the republicans don't want to do it is because the chamber of commerce is dead set against it they are those business interests are giant donors to both the republican party and the democratic party. And those donors are saying. I wanna keep the ninety two billion dollars. I want to give it to my workers. I want to keep their wages incredibly low now go do my bidding. And they do now. Bernie is not in that camp. But he's getting pressure from the other democrats to take it out of the bill. We in a sense have to back them up by saying bernie. We do not agree. We do not agree. Don't kill it bernie. Don't kill it
Daft Punk is splitting up after 28 years
"One of the most influential doers in music broke up this week. Daft Punk is calling it quits, quits after 28 years to make the announcement in eight minute video where one of the guys in the robot suit blew up the other one and then walks off into the sunset. It would be weird from anybody else but for death punk. It's very on brand for them to do the announcement this way. The group hasn't come into beyond that. Their publicist did confirm the news. Didn't give a reason for the break up, Thomas Bangle, ter and Demon. Well, deo increased. Oh, that's your two guys and daft punk. No more. By the way, 12 Crimea nominations They won six of them over their historic
Rowdy's NASCAR Fantasy Picks
"Okay. So let's move on to the road course at daytona. We have to go very far. We're still at the Daytona race track. They're just moving some combs and stuff around so let's see who we got for good picks for for the weekend. Now i'm looking back at the I'm i'm not even looking at the rolex twenty four the races or anything. I'm looking at last year's race at this track as well as the clash this year. All the guys. That ran the clash. This year are fresh and Again last year we had a race here so we have a little bit of data to fall back on now so now you would think i would pick the nine cars first guy but i'm not. He's my second guy we're gonna go with the seventy eight cars. My first pick. He had awesome. Run in the clash. He kept coming from the back to the front. He did finish their place here last year. And you got a couple of bonus points in the second segment. I believe it was. I believe he can take that checkered flag on sunday. Okay so now we'll take a look at chase elliott in the nine car. He's got stage points at this track in both stages last year he won this track last year and he's been dominant force on road courses. So you can't pass the nine car chase elliott for the daytona road course and then finally the last guy wanna look at. He won last week. The number thirty four michael mcdowell. The team morale is at all time high. It's his first win and he's not some road course racer. He finished tenth year last year. And using the thirty four car will also help. You spread your allocations. For the rest of the season michael mcdowell. He's on my team. Okay folks well. That's all i got for you this week. I'm hoping this Get you kicked off to a good start.
Report: J.J. Watt ‘seriously considering’ signing with the Browns
"The browns on the first teams to show interest in signing defensive end. Jj watt after. He was released by the texans on friday and it appears that the interest is mutual. Cleveland dot com reports that. What is seriously considering making his way to cleveland. To play for the browns due to the cap space they have available and a roster he thinks can potentially compete for the super bowl. Now we all know it's been a while since any big name free agent shows to sign with the browns. Do you think that. Jj watt is actually a realistic option for them. So i've left or swipe right. I think it's very realis- either. You put them next two miles. Gary that i mean yeah. That's really smart right here. Yeah that'd be a great acquisition. I immediately went to the rams as a possibility the idea of teaming two guys who are three time defensive players of the year would be an unbelievable option. Here's the issue. They probably do have room to work it out but it might be a question of. Jj watt or john johnson and leonard floyd in that scenario and that world do you go. Jj watt or do you go the other guys. I would go the other two guys but it's close really close. So does cleveland one. Sign what i said. Who don't want to sign what they're what i
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"A bad three. Jamie sheridan's how about you jae for a whole bunch of different reasons. I'm also giving it three so for the first time we are giving it the singing number of dame sheridan's wow to justify that a little bit. I still think it was if artificially but still successful in some of the things i did and the production values really good The acting is good for what the actors have been given to work with. I think every single one of these actors has risen above elevated the material that they were given even skarsgard when he howls worship. Me i think he delivered it well but he never should have been told to say it. That's why i ended up at three. I think there's just enough good offset the bad there. I am kinda right in the middle speaking of rising above and high rankings. We did actually see randall. Flagg rise above and levitated and show his butt. So i mean that's another reason that we're going three. Gb shirt speak for yourself but okay. I know you're more of a fan of the dancing. I get it so in lieu of doing a full series. wrap up. jj. We're just going to give it a rating. I think maybe we should just give it a rating my overall rating for the entire series looking back on all the episodes. And i'm gonna give it to jamie sheridan's i'm going to give it one. Jamey sheridan and one alexander skarsgard and together to does not equal to. But since you don't let me have partial gradings. I'll give it to because there were so much promise here and i do think that it might be helped by somebody releasing a chronological order cut and maybe there are out takes that they cut like the whole tom in stu scenes and some other stuff. I'm confident that there's material out there. That would make this better that. I hope that they filmed and just didn't choice. For whatever reason you think they actually filmed hours and hours of show and just didn't maybe not ours. But i think if there's a hours were there might be one hour worth of content that's floating around out there that if they put into director's cut and then put it chronologically that maybe this be somewhat worth watching. Maybe that's me being hopeful leaving a hopeful note but yeah this is no higher than two stars for me. However you wanna put it to jamie sheridan's you mean day. We have now spent probably nine hours talking about this. A we've spent far more than nine our friend. We're we're giving our listeners about nine hours worth of content on this series and we are moving on and like the dark tower movie. We're not talking about this again. So that's gonna be all for this episode of two guys to the dark tower came. Thanks jay thank you links to. All of our social media is available in the show notes. If you like to show please rate us on apple podcasts to support the show visit patriot. Dot com slash. Two guys dark tower episode. Join us as we get back to covering books.
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"Two guys dark tower in this episode. We'll cover the cbs all access series. The stand now the circle closes. Let's start the show. Franny has a baby girl named abigail and mourns the loss of stu and the other walkers but stu returns having been saved by tom. Franklin stu decide the leave boulder and head back to maine to friday's hometown in nebraska. While stu is looking for supplies franny falls into a well and badly injures yourself in order to save herself and baby abigail. She must make her own. Stand against randall. Flagg day we had a change in episode title again. Yeah again from one week to the next. But let's start off with some listener feedback so we got a bunch of really great from a few folks One of those emails from our good friend. Liz h. and liz thought that episode nine was a pallet cleanser from episode eight. She also couldn't believe that king himself had nothing but raised for the miniseries. that is until she learned. That king's own son was involved in its creation was thought it was nice to have abigail back in nebraska and she finally healed from injuries like in the book. There's also mr the thomas do homecoming tail but the unforgivable sins through this whole series her is that flag is just not scary in the least it just comes across as petty cruel narcissistic and a bad tempered guy Liz you might have missed it but we did get thomas deuce homecoming tail. Yeah stu said com saved my life for any there you go. What more did you want. I mean is that not enough syllables. He had a whole sentence about it. We joke. Liz will be complaining about that in a little bit. We also got an email from sam g. Sam said. I went in with so much hope and excitement and left so disappointed. That's not to say. There were glimmers of hope throughout the series but none of it really amounted to much when taken a whole. Yep wait till we get to our jamey sheridan. Sam sam was also mind boggled when student. Tom magically appeared back in boulder with a simple. Tom save me live to explain their return. Wow it seems like we got a theme here. Yeah to not positive note. I'm glad they went with the russell faraday ending as in the novel. I would be interested to hear what people who haven't read the book. Thought of it though and sam concludes with the final rating of the series of to jamie sheridan's because he to refuses to cut the poor man in half jay. You've got a lot of people convinced on that. Yeah you can't cut jamey sheridan half. I will do so at my wish if i so desire at my leisure at my leisure was going to say that. We also got a brilliantly written summary of some ideas thoughts and analysis from my friend. Tony l. and i'll do my best to summarize some of the key things that tony said one of key points was. I acknowledged that the stand as a novel is a work of great pop cultural importance. However i do wonder if due to its influencing a great many other books films and shows in. Its wake if it isn't perhaps futile to adapt today and given the current circumstances. Whether it's a worthwhile story to adapt a retail this modern retailing fails to speak to this moment. We're living in. Which is something that most adaptations at least make some effort toward because otherwise. What's the point. That's a very good question. Tony i think that that is a problem with a lot of influential works. Is that so much comes after them that build upon it and take things in a new and interesting direction and as a culture. We're always learning more and more that when we go back to other works it can be hard to understand why that work was important or how it was groundbreaking or how. It hasn't changed in this book. Is you know forty some years old. Now and there have been a glut of post-apocalyptic stories in the ensuing decades and in fact. It's become a huge john. Laura in and of itself. yeah so when. Tony mentioned that it's influenced so many things. It's hard to adapt because people certain expectations or have seen things before. I think of aliens a work that i love but like there are literally hundreds of science fiction movies that i've seen since then that are like alien right and we've seen that so many times that when you shows alien people like i've seen this before and i've seen it done better near like no. You haven't alien did it first. And some of that's like that with the stand. And to tony's point if you're gonna adapt it it's hard to adapt it in the way it was because the culture has moved on and a lot of what was known have worked on so people including us probably are questioning in a different way so if a writer or producer rector dozen adds something to it and to his point. Speak to the moment. Then are you doing a disservice. Or you're just making a period piece at that point or you saying something more so tony makes a good point there. Yeah i think something that tony speaking to with this point is all stories are response to the time that they're created end often an exploration or analysis of a certain idea. The original book was of its time in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight and it explored ideas. That king was curious about at that time and it worked because of that. It's the subtext dip that i'm talking about here When somebody else adapts that work into a new form if they don't bother with the subtext and they just adopt the text then it feels disconnected from anything and therefore hollow and meaningless. Unfortunately i mean the stand has somewhat awkward position in this point too because king updated two different times and it became disconnected from. Its own subtext because of those adaptations because of the updates. He made so. It's a little bit harder to fault. The tv miniseries or losing track of that subtexts but they could have invented their own. Make a show that is about the text of the book but adapted to today's struggles and concerns make the subtext instill tell the story of the stand. That would have been a far more engaging and interesting. Tv show a lot and it doesn't help that. This show is made in two thousand nineteen and is already dated because of the events of twenty twenty. Yeah i think tony makes great point in his email and it's something i wish we could all see and read and jade. I felt inadequate in some respects. Because we're reacting to a tv show. You know what usually less than eight hours after. we've just watched it and scrambling to put together notes. That put together an episode. And i really appreciate tony having this sort of telescoping out and looking at it from a gestalt standpoint and putting together a lot of great thoughts on it. Yeah and regarding tony's reaction to our podcast itself he said keep up the excellent podcast work. You guys have put together an enjoyable and surprisingly chill show. It had me thinking that if npr had stephen king appreciation show it would sound like two guys to the dark tower came. Thank you for that tony. Your praise means a lot..
Alex Trebek's Family Donate Late Host's Wardrobe to Charity
"Alex trebek's family is showing what it means not just to give back with also to pay it forward the late jeopardy host with always known for his philanthropy and that's continuing even three months after he passed away his own family and his jeopardy family are donating much of the late game shows wardrobe the host wardrobe to the doe fund nonprofit organization in new york working to help break the cycle of incarceration homelessness and addiction. The donado's fourteen suits fifty-eight dress shirts. Three hundred neckties plus shoes belts and other items that will be distributed for men to wear on job interviews which is very quiet only imagine collection of is that guy. Had you know doing an episode many hundreds of episodes a year. Yeah for many years and now it's all going to go to two guys who can hopefully get themselves a job which is very cool shadow. Tell it makes me sad. Just to talk about alex. Trebek's deal now.
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
"That's fine. I'd say that's about right. I was leaning towards one jamey sheridan myself and rightfully so. But i think that couple of things one the special effects in the visuals of this episode. Just like all the others. I think was enough to redeem at least part of jamey sheridan and i really did get a couple of really great laughs from the things. I mentioned fun stuff so put all that together and the fact that i adamantly refused to cut jamey sheridan into pieces. I'm gonna give it to jamie sheridan's and i think that maintains our track record of me always giving better rating than you. I think so but this is also my lowest rated episode of the season. I don't think there's any doubt that this is the lowest rated episode quite. Got one more to go. We do have one more to go with that. That's be all for this episode of two guys to the dark tower came. thanks jay. thank you links to all of our social media's available the show notes if you like the show. please rate us on apple podcasts. To support the show visit patriotic dot com slash. Two guys dark tower next episode. Join us as we mercifully conclude our.
"two guys" Discussed on Two Guys to the Dark Tower Came: A Podcast about Stephen King and His Books
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"You can also email us at two guys dark tower at gmail.com in this episode. We'll cover the movie adaptation of hearts in Atlantis. Let's start the show per description on I._M._D._b.. Hearts in Atlantis is the story of widowed Liz Garfield Oath Davis and her son Bobby <music> Anton Yeltsin when mysterious stranger Ted broad again Sir Anthony Hopkins enters their lives. That's it that's a Scott. It's all I._M._D._B.. Says it's pretty straightforward. I guess it makes sense in addition to hope Davis Anthony Hopkins and Anton Yeltsin Elchin this movie also starred Meco Burum not sure if I'm pronouncing her name properly she played Carol Gerber and David Morse as the adult adult version of Bobby Garfield along with Celia Weston who played Alana Styles Celia Weston wasn't exactly a top billed member of the cast but I thought she was worth calling out because she played Alana styles and I thought that was a pretty important character for bobby. Even though she wasn't in the movie for very long she might have only had the one seen right. Yeah I think so <hes> she'd have a speaking role in the second scene when bobby goes back and gets the money that's right yeah you can see her but she doesn't say yeah and this movie was directed by Scott Hicks. I don't know what else he's done. I don't think anything else connecting with Stephen King Stories now he did snow falling on Cedars was the other sort of big movie he did around the same time <hes> not as important but of interest to me is he did a lot of inaccessible videos so he came up with that whole dropping the the cue you cards routine. <hes> yeah came up with that definitely not Bob Dylan. I don't know what you're talking about. It and the screenwriter is probably more interesting than the director <hes> as it is William Goldman who also Hollywood royalty goodwill bill will he wrote the screenplay for misery another Stephen King adaptation one that had critical acclaim and he also wrote the Princess Bride both the book in the movie yeah amongst many of his other works but obviously those are the two that are probably of interest to our readers. I saw myself a lot of similarities between maybe not a lot that might I I saw myself a few similarities between the princess bride movie as well as this movie and maybe I was more apt to look for them them knowing that <hes> bill golden did the screenplay but we had also mentioned when we discussed low many in yellow coats how the the importance of Bobby's kiss really sort of mirrored Wesley and buttercup S- kiss and you know how it was one of the five five greatest kisses of all time and in this movie and in the story <hes> Toboggan says that this is the kiss that you'll measure all others by we saw a similarity there so we had seen the similarity before I saw the movie so I thought that that was interesting. It's an interesting connection because in the content yeah there's a lot of overlap but king wrote that that line in his book and Goldman found a way to shoehorn it into the screenplay yep he wasn't like I need to write a line about important kisses everyone in my screenplays his <hes> but I like the connection nevertheless yeah I also thought there were a couple of other connections to other Stephen King Stories through the actors David Morris who as I mentioned played the adult bobby was also a guard in the Green Mile and he was also had a starring role in <hes> uh the Lingo leers which is a TV mini series adaptation or an episode of a mini series. I think forget David Morris's Mrs in three Stephen King Adaptations that I'm aware of and I called out Celia Weston because she was also in under the Dome many years later after making this movie so got to Multiple Stephen King Adaptation alums in this film yeah <hes> I we'll tell you out of those three Mile Langa leaders and under the Dome I saw what are probably the two worst ones laniers in under the Dome and I've never I've never actually actually seen the green mile all while really yeah. I know it's critically acclaimed. It's got Tom Hanks. It's got David Morse yes Michael Dunkin's ends best work. I think people really liked <hes> his his work in that <hes> and I remember working at a drugstore that did movie rentals and we rented that movie out all the time people loved it and I've never ever seen it and I really enjoyed the you know the book I bought each one of those little green mile books in paperback as they were released one month or however however that went going down to the divall and go into my Walden Books and picking those up <hes> Walden books but I've never seen the green mile well I think it was interesting this phase and <hes> I know we're GonNa talk about the trailer here in a minute Jay but there were a number of Stephen King adaptations I I think probably following the Shawshank redemption and how even though it wasn't a blockbuster in the movie theaters when it got to V._H._S. and D._V._d.. It rented out a lot. <hes> it became a cult movie. It's you know it's on cable all the time. It's always in the top whatever I list of I._M._D._b.. T._V. People love that movie the Shawshank Redemption <hes> it's really well acclaimed and I I got the sense that in this timeframe that people were trying to take exc Stephen King Books and adapting them in that sort of style you know all sort of drawing on the past <hes> in a little bit of sentimentality and almost using them like Oscar Bait right like Shashlik apt pupil has put Shawshank redemption and <hes> for sure then Green Mile and then this movie. I think they're all sort of a piece right looking back at the past and you know it really started probably with stand by me yes but all all these sort of looking back they probably appealed the baby boomers and <hes> just relationships light on the horror late on the supernatural just enough there to to to still have some connection but really focusing on story which is what King is really good at and I think that king has always had that reputation of being the horror Meister as one of the reviewers that we read in a previous episode talked about but I feel like that always precedes him even in the movie adaptations that he's he's not involved in if it says Stephen King anywhere to do with the movie I think a lot of people immediately go to horror. This must be a scary movie and there are so many Stephen King books that have elements of horror that have some really dark things in them but they're generally not Har- and this is certainly one of them. There are some pretty scary moments in the book especially when Bobby encounters the low men directly up that is really frightening stuff for Bobby and he's in some real danger but but a lot of that is not in the movie therefore this just feels like like a cousin to stand by me. You know it has the right age ranges. It has the right time period. It has bullies with Batson <unk> like there. There's a lot there that's in common and it totally works <hes> but I wonder if that assumption of horror horror this assumption of scariness might have always kept the box office numbers low on these adaptations well. I would imagine that the trailer did do any help admit and Mickey the Box Office Success O._J.. Pointed out the trailer to be about a week ago said take a look at this <hes>. It's amazing. How different for trailers are in twenty years? Yeah just it looked like a hallmark movie trailer to me to sort of the the melodramatic music the cursive writing across the screen <hes> just these odd shots that sort of fade in and out it was <hes> Schlocky to say the least and not did not in the horror schlocky sort of in the melodramatic schlocky way yeah and even the sequence of the clips were just. They seemed very haphazard. It was like someone who had not really ever made a trailer before was given this task for the first job in all right quick make trailer use any of the scenes from the movie and you're you're good. We'll just put some music underneath it. Call today and I don't remember how big of a deal Anthony Hopkins was at this point in his career. I I mean it was ten years after it was nominated for sounds lamb so I mean he was a big star. I don't know if he still was a big star at this point but you know he had been nominated for Multiple Academy Awards for <hes> remains of the day as well as <hes> silence of the lambs so he was a known quantity and this is definitely presented ended as a vehicle for his star power but the way the trailer makes him look it just like I don't know like it might have been just the version that I found one but the seemed like even the resolution of the video was low to the point where if I didn't no Anthony Hopkins like I might not realize that this is that guy that impressed me in silence silence of the lambs or that impressed me in Howards end. You know what what who is. This guy is just like an old guy in a movie yeah what will link to the trailer so you experience it herself but <hes> Fun Times so let's let's get into the movie Jay this. We should preface the fact the movie's called hearts in Atlantis but this this is the low men in yellow coats movie. Yes it is ninety five percent of that story <hes> there's a Tad Tad Tad little bit of of why we're in Vietnam you see a newspaper chose that saw John has died on a highway <hes> and there's a little bit of the heavenly shades of night are falling going in that a glove appears in in in the older bobby's house but it is mostly low men in yellow coats which is fine because that's that's probably the story in the book that is the most adaptable for film and I'm sure that they just called it Hartson Atlanta's so that they could reference the Steven King Book because they don't want to say this is we already discussed are low men in yellow coats is not a great name for a story or a book by like or movie yeah definitely definitely after yeah but you can't say like Oh based on the boast based on these short story low men in Yellow Coats for the book arts and Lazett just too much to say so they'd call and they slip been <hes> Goldman slips at hearts in Atlantis light which the way it slipped in even J. where bobby and sully John or having their own conversation at the end of the porch playing monopoly I think maybe or something and then it's just sort of Anthony Hopkins having a one on one scene with Carol Gerber and saying yes I I remember the youth is not just it just comes off as for standing and it's it's like one of those <hes> fake pepperidge Ridge farm commercials from the simpsons but you know overall it is a pretty dead on adaptations of low men in yellow coats with the exception of there's no dark tower piece in it right. There's <hes> yet because the story is told primarily from Bobby's perspective we don't really know who the low men are and why they're chasing him. It's hinted at the end of the towards the end of the movie that there some sort of government agents aunts who want <hes> Ted because of his powers that they're gonNA use him to potentially spy on the communists that at least that's the impression that Ted gives bobby lobby <hes> but we're really not given any more information than that and really that's the big change from the book but the movie hits. It's most of the major beats of the story dead on the relationship between Ted and Bobby is the core of the movie just like it is in the book <hes> the strange relationship that bobby has with his mother and the <hes> blossoming romance between Bobby and care. I mean all those pieces are there. It's it's a really good close adaptation of of the story and overall <hes> I'm going to say I thought the movie worked well. I think the acting performances are are good. <hes> Ebony Hopkins is not who I would have pictured being ted. <hes> I did not picture Ted is being sort of average average height stocky guy with a British accent. That's not the Ted in my mind but no he is really good. I mean at the Newsflash Sean Picks Anthony Hopkins is good actor controversial opinion everybody but I you know they always tell good actors like don't work with with animals or children and but Anton Yeltsin is really good in this as well. I thought I thought he yeah He. He nails <hes> bobby. There is a depth to him that you don't see in other child actors all the time. I think he's able to get that across. It's a short movie. It's only about an hour and a half long and yet I believe leave the relationship that the two of them had it doesn't come across his four store rushed in any way which there's the potential to <hes> I largely agree i. I think that the movie works I think that <hes> and I think the things that it removes from the Book and leaves out of the adaptation some of them. I think the movie suffers four. I'll get into that in a check but I think it makes some other tweaks that I feel kind of land a lot better in the movie than in the Book One of the best examples is when and bobby has his final confrontation with Liz Garfield after Ted has been taken away by the low men and bobby throws the money..
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"The. Welcome everyone to two guys to the dark tower. Kane a podcast where we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau. And I'm Shawn Macur. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom in this episode. We'll cover heavenly shades of night are falling in hearts in Atlantis as well as wrap up. Our discussion of the book, let's start the show. Bobby Garfield returns to his hometown for the first time since he and his mother moved away forty years, earlier, silly John's funeral is a nominal reason is there, but as he visits different areas of town, and then encounters Carol Gerber, not the knee Schoonover. We realized that he is reflecting on his relationships with Carol and Ted broad again, the magic of the universe, and memory in history. Nice day, this is the fifth story in Hartson, Atlanta's, although this story is so slight that it's not even really a story as much. It is just sort of epilogue tacked on at the end that ties up the loose ends of the first four stories in particular wraps up. What was introduced in the first story low men in yellow coats? Yes, I kind of think of it like a coda. And really this coda if we want to refer to it is, dad is about maybe leaving behind the past as our characters have moved on from not only what happened to them when they were children. But what has happened to them since they were adults? And in turn the whole idea of what happened to America in the sixties as a result of Vietnam. Yes, bobby's final act of placing the baseball mitt back, under the, the grove of trees. He slightly acknowledging the sort of science fiction element of what he is experiencing here that there's some sort of weird thing going on that he can explain chooses the just let happen. But it's also him relinquishing his past that baseball glove is a bright, shiny reminder of his childhood. And he hasn't had that baseball glove since he was a child. And we know the journey that, that glove has taken all the people who have owned it in traveled all the way to Vietnam and back in and things like that inherit is back in bobby's possession, and the first chance he gets. He sends it away again, this because he doesn't wanna maybe live in the past anymore, or he doesn't want to risk returning to the past in any way. He's he is, as you say, leaving the past behind the. And actually out of all the characters in the book, Carolyn, Bobby of probably moved on from the past a little bit better than the other characters. Carol has created a whole new persona and identity after she is presumed dead. And when Bobby wants to talk to her about what happened. She doesn't want to she's like, no, that's in the past. I don't talk about that anymore, and Bobby, when we last saw him was leading a troubled early adulthood, in and out of juvie and, you know, a strange relationship with his mother. But he find out his gotten married, and has become a carpenter and also dime, and we don't see Bobby dwelling on the events of the past, except when he comes back to town hits all the old haunts and remembers. Oh, yeah. There is the restaurant where I were ten is all the low men or eighty there's the place where I got work, Carol got beat up and there's mild apartment at cetera. Neither one of them talks about what's happened in the ensuing years. And what their lives have been like something just occur. To me in terms of the structure here, because at the end of hearten, Atlantis that story takes place all in the concurrent moments of the college years. And then jumps all the way to the present a where we encounter Pete Riley skip. Kirk as older men skips in the hospital. It's sort of like a retelling of the of win. Stokely Jones is in the hospital, when they were in college or of that moment, we get a KOTA built into that story, the story happens, and then there's the coda moment we see where these men have ended up much later in their lives, and who they became and we get a little bit of a taste of what happened in the years between right? Or why didn't king structure low men in yellow coats that way and have this KOTA between Bobby and Carol? And I think my answer to that, is that king didn't wanna. Giveaway. What happened to Carol great? And it would have been too easy for us to just find out that things turned out, okay for Bobby after all immediately after the events of Ted's of duck Shen than Ted sending him the rose petals rights, like, oh, all right now, bobby's of forty year, he's forty years older and is doing. Okay, it right. I think having the separate having all the way at the end of the book after all the other stories is far more powerful from a storytelling perspective, so sort of answering my question with that. But it's interesting that we had to wait until here for this almost not long enough to be its own story piece, a lot of it is not just we find out bobby's, okay? Or we find out, it's really the relationship between Bobby and Carol that we find out is okay because we have assumed that. Carol his died, and is no longer alive. And that's what Bobby thinks until what happens with sully, John. And specifically the fact that he gets the glove which has a message from Ted in it. And that's when he thinks, oh, Carol might still be around. And if I go back home maybe show, meet me there, it
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"The. Welcome everyone to the dark tower came a podcast where we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn mcgurk. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom in this episode. We'll cover why were in Vietnam in Hartson Atlantis. Let's start the show. Sully John attended the funeral fellow Vietnam veteran, dick Gano, which causes him to reminisce about his time in Vietnam, in particular, he thinks about a helicopter crash in the ensuing firefight that put his units, endanger. And then an incident later in the day when soldiers including Ronnie, Mallon Fant terrorize village before Lieutenant defend Baker also attending to funeral as another soldier shot before the incident escalates to my Lai levels sully John is haunted by Vietnamese woman. That Malan fan bayonets to death seeing her throughout the rest of his life after leaving the funeral. Sully John is stuck in traffic jam, where he hallucinates items falling from the sky, including Bobby Garfield baseball glove in a low man's yellow coat. The ghost of the Vietnamese woman speaks for the first time saying show keep sully. John safe, the hallucination stops and sully. John dies in the driver's seat of his car with Bobby Garfield glove in his lap. But they guy covered everything that happened in this story J. Yeah. That's pretty much the full text. And even reading that you could see that there is a little lot lot of confusing, because there's a lot of flashbacks in the stories not told linearly as we sort of jumped back and forth from solely John going to the funeral back to Vietnam being at the funeral reminiscing about things that happened in Vietnam than hallucinating things that happen. And so there's a lot of time jumps as well as back and forth between what's real and what's not real. In addition, those flashbacks. Yeah. And I kind of Sirte feel like it's still up for debate as to whether or not that was a hallucination because the baseball glove appears and remains, so that part's that part's definitely real. And everybody seems to be undamaged on hurt in alive after the fact. But how did the baseball glove kit there? Yeah. That's a really good question that I'm not sure I know the answer to, and it's not even just the baseball glove that he possibly could have created out of his mouth. Mind, solely John because it's the one that's been changed by blind Willie and has bobby's name, scratched out and rewritten. And it's an it's been aged, it's not the it's not the version that sully John would have remembered he remembers details of the or he sees details. The glove that are how the glove is now as we learned in the last story. So it is more than just a remembrance or something that he dreamed into being it seems like it is the actual real glove. Yeah. From this time period, so. And we'll loop back to that a little bit more when we get to our dark towers Fini's exciting, but we want to start off with the fact that soley, John is still in Vietnam, even though the war's been over for twenty five years, when the story takes place, the epigraph in the first line of the story are when someone dies, you think about the past, and this story starts with sully. John getting ready to attend a funeral. And he's. Thinking about the past is pagawa has died now. He's thinking about everything that happened to him in his last days in Vietnam, and effected its hat him. And when he in defend Baker are talking in the alleyway outside the funeral parlor, they kind of come up with this idea that the war is over until everybody who fought in it is died. So that's why that's why they're still in Vietnam. They, they never left because the war continues for as long as they do, and it's kind of like something you reminded me of the other day, like there's that saying that you don't really die until everybody who knew as forgotten you or has died themselves as long as you are in somebody's memory, you still exist in, in a way in the Vietnam, war, maybe most wars, maybe all wars are kind of, like that, that the soldiers who come back from those wars are haunted, by the war in, they can never really escape it. You're never not in Vietnam. Tom for the rest of their lives to the point where one of them suggests, maybe everything after that helicopter ride out of, of the was, it has been a hallucination like bridges dreaming this. We're in a recovery ward somewhere at hospital. Getting patched up and everything the last you know, decades have been just a, a drug induced dream. Yes. Another thing that continues in this story, or that is a continuation from previous sections of arts in Atlantis is the us versus them motif, here, we get it in the form of veterans and non veterans, and it used to be like, during the story of hearts in Atlanta's a lot of it was the people who were for the war versus the people who protested the war now
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"The. Welcome everyone to two guys to the duct our podcast. We discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus, the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn McCoy. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at g mail dot com. In this episode. We'll cover blind Willie found in Hartson Atlantis. Let's start the show. It's nineteen Eighty-three and Vietnam veteran Bill Sherman appears to live a comfortable life in suburban Connecticut. But as we observe him through his day, he actually appears to lead a double, and even triple life. Begging on midtown Manhattan street corner as he pretends to be blind. The reason for this seems to be his form of penance for his involvement in a beating of a young girl. Carol Gerber whose life. He has followed by keeping news clippings of her protests of the war that have become more and more radical and seem to have led to her death. The story ends as it begins with Bill in bed with his wife, who seems to know how he makes money, not my best recap of stories, Jay. But I think it hits some of the major points, there's actually a lot more happening in the story than what I said. But at the same time, there's really not a lot that happens in the story. It's just one day and Bill sherman's life. And we see what's going on. But even the little bit of conflict that is introduced Bill is worried that he's going to be found out by the policemen that he plays a bribe to so that he can stay on the street corner in that conflict is not resolved. It's just sort of a thought in bills head towards the end of the story like oh, yeah. I think I might have an idea. On how to deal with it, but it's not fully spelled out, but really sort of a day in the life of this guy. Yeah. I think that was actually a great recap considering what the, the story was all about. I could easily see that on a dust cover, or the back of a DVD box. So don't sell yourself, so short while not sure this is as good of a story to be made into a movie anytime anytime soon, Jay somebody decided to make maximum overdrive. I can't believe that they wouldn't adapt. This, of course, the person who made that decision was Stephen King us high cocaine at the time. So. I'm certain whatever studio executive green lit. It was also high cocaine at the time. In fact, they might have had the same dealer. Well, unlike the other stories in this book, this one had been previously published. Yeah. It was published in Antonius, an import literary journal, which never reached more than about ten thousand readers or subscribers. But in its approximately twenty five years, that it ran it published a wide variety of authors and poets fact, it was founded by Paul Bowles who is a famous writer, his own. Right. He gave sort of the seed money to get this up and running, and blind Willie was actually published in the final issue of this journal, which was in nineteen ninety four so king Kildee tasks. I think it was the other way around that they knew that the journal was coming to an end. In fact, the editor said something along the lines of I want to get out before I get too old to blind, too tired lose my hair. So I'm going to get out at this point and stopped publishing it. And in that last. Issue. He really gathered up a lot of well known authors for the final issue. In addition to king, two of my favorite authors of all time, Paul Austin, Don delillo, actually might like them better than king. If you can believe that for a different type of writing. But to my favorite writers, Margaret, Atwood appeared in the last issue, Richard Ford. Nadine Gordimer Joyce, Carol Oates. Jane smiley Tobias Wolff those are some of the names that I recognized just by going through the table content. So they did gather up some pretty big names for that final issue including king, and king's entry was blind Willie. However, and j you might be interested in this. And hopefully our listeners are too. It is quite different from the story that is in Hartson Atlantis. Yeah. When I was reading blind Willie for this podcast. I knew that it had been published before. It appeared in Hartson Atlantis. But I didn't know what the, the text was in that original publication. So I started asking myself along the way. How many details did king change to adapt, this for hearts in Atlantis was very little. Did he have this idea of the Carol Gerber figure in blind? Willie's life was she the reason for his penance end acts of contrition, those kinds of things were kind of top of mind for me. And when you shared some of the details of the original version of blind Willie, it became quickly apparent that none of the hearts in Atlantis stuff is in it, basically. Right. And therefore, king added all of that stuff in just so that it would better integrate within the larger group of stories. And I think it's to our benefit end to the stories benefit. I think giving Willie a more concrete reason to do some of the things he does act, the way that he does or the choices he makes his life beyond the attaching those things to Carol attaching those things to his. His time in Vietnam. In a very specific way and connecting it to some of the other people in who he met in Vietnam, including silly, John. I think it makes Willie a more meaningful character
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"The. Welcome everyone to two guys to the dark tower Kane a podcast or we discussed the characters connections deeper, meanings of Stephen king's magnum opus the dark tower. I'm Jay Rousseau and I'm Shawn mcgirt. You can find more information about the podcast at two guys to the dark tower came dot com. You can also Email us at two guys dark tower at gmaiLcom in this episode. We will finish the title story from hearts in Atlantis parts. Twenty three through forty four. Let's start the show. Loses virginity to Carol Gerber, and then she leaves college or thanksgiving break. Pete decides to get on track with the schoolwork. But once he gets back to school. It's back to hearts for him antiwar anti LBJ graffiti appears on the side of a dorm. And the obvious suspect is Stokely Jones, but despite most of the dorm, laughing at his misfortune when Stokely slips and falls into a puddle of water, they have a Spartacus moment and stick up form skipping. Pete us the opportunity to quit hearts and stay in school. The story ends with an older Pete visiting skip in the hospital and reminiscing. When you say it like that, it seems a little dry Jay, but it was an interesting story, and I enjoyed it and I was turning pages throughout. But ultimately, this isn't like low men in yellow coats where there was a build up to a very tense and dramatic moment when the, the low men confront and take Ted away, another dramatic moment when the boys are picky, on Caroline, and Bobby needs to save her here. We just sort of get an everyday regular story that AMAN is reminiscent, gone really small moments in his life, losing virginity playing cards with his buddies at school sticking up for somebody it becomes a full story. And he kinda yada, yada over some of the more important things later in his life when he like when he took his, his protesting even further when he got arrested in beaten up and things like that, he just glosses over that part. Because it's not central to this story, but to your point, unlike lamenting yellow coats, that built up to this great crescendo. This is more like the main character walking to the edge of the cliff kind of hanging out there for a minute. And then just deciding the walk away from the edge of the cliff, again the cliffs there, but he was able to just move away from it. And he did and not, not quite the same stakes. No. And you your point I mean, he walks away from the cliff and deady, basically walks over to a riot over there, that was on the other side of that he was that he was standing on. And you know gets beaten by the cops and gets thrown in jail and. His best friend, who he played cards with in college becomes a famous artist. And, you know, sort of world renowned then has a heart attack. But all that is secondary and off page and the key moment. With him reuniting with skip is just them at the end saying, you know, much like the ending of low men in yellow coats, where Bobby in his mother sort of say, hey, we tried retried. It's just the two of them saying the same sort of thing like we did the best. We could on. It's just you know, male bonding piece at the end. But again, not these big dramatic moments that you might think of normally and again, king does that stuff. Well, one of one of the best loved movies of Stephen king's at adaptations is stand by me. And you know, there's not much in that movie. That is dramatic. Right. There's, there's a train sing seen when the running across the trestle. But what would you think of that movie? And remember it, it's to sort of. The boys hanging out and being together. I guess getting leeches on their body. But yeah, that does have that does have a lot in common with this. In, in terms of the central character of the story is also the author writing about the story as reminiscence, and stand by me is constructed the same way. So we start with the adult author in his studied, working have the flashback of the movie and end back with the adult author again, the great, Richard Dreyfuss. Yes. But here we know that Pete Riley isn't going to go to Vietnam die because he is alive. Thirty three years later writing the story. Right. We at least know that much that's built into the structure. So there's no suspense there. But we don't know if he's going to fell out of school. We don't know what's gonna happen to all of his friends. We don't know that he's not going to end up in Vietnam. Right. And we and we definitely didn't know that it was going to. Throw himself fully into protesting the Vietnam, war and get into all sorts of crazy things from getting beaten up by the cops cetera. The happened after
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"Is over this episode of two guys, the Dr tower came. Thanks, jay. Thank you, winks, all of our contact information available in the show notes, you can Email us at two guys, Dr tower edgy dot com. And our Twitter handle is at two guys dark tower. You can also find us on our Facebook page at Facebook dot com slash two. Guys dark tower or our Facebook group at Facebook dot com slash groups slash two guys dark tower. If you like the show, please rate us on, I tunes next episode. Join us as we start, our coverage of the dark tower adjacent book hearts in Atlantis by discussing the first story low men in yellow coats hearts, one through four, so they were going to do the entire book, even though not all of the stories are dark tower. Jason, there's enough there that I think it's gonna be interesting in fun read the first story low men in yellow coats. Direc-. Adjacent to Dr cower. Yep. It's the reason why we're covering this book. It is a long story, even longer than low sisters Laurie. So we've broken it up a little bit. So when you come back should've read parts, one through four, so you can join us in our discussion, and we will not be spoiling anything beyond parks, went through four. So if you're not if you can't read it all by that. For j Russo. I'm Sean Macur. Thanks for listening. He stole my boy.