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22 Table Talks: Moving To Japan Pt 1: A New Skyline in 6 weeks
"It's joe family frenzy and felicia. We should be tired really tired. It's been a long day. It's about eleven eighteen at night. And we are recording. Our twenty-second podcast. And we have some interesting news. If you've been tracking with us. Yesterday we had pretty sorry and sad podcast about our noise. Complaints leveled against us in our two-bedroom apartment and as we spent some time in prayer trying to navigate that we got some interesting news on the japan front. Or do you want to share. Do you want me to share Joe got an email from his team. That said that it's possible that we could be in country by like october first We were given three option for options for Are temporary living so this is like wow we go in house hunt and For our quarantine. so japan has really strict fourteen day. Quarantine rule we have to like. Put an app on our phone and like all this other crazy stuff to prove that like. We're not leaving the house. That were that were safe. And that were healthy. While we're in japan and not going anywhere So we have. It's house arrest for like fourteen days So they gave us four options and there was one that was like really good for in terms of location for like joe and his work and the commute And then the commute that the kids and i will have for their school once. We're out of our quarantine so as like maybe thirty minutes both ways which right in the middle. Yeah which is really good commute if if you guys have ever lived anywhere where public transportation is like the main source of getting around like. That's a pretty good commute we when we traveled to japan in the past like we're used to traveling thirty minutes or more onto train so when we saw like twenty five minutes or like thirty eight minutes really. Oh that's not that bad but here it's like oh twenty. Five minutes in my car is awful from some people have commutes like people in the west coast. That's true that's true. That's where we are a twenty five minute. Commute anywhere is like awful like you did something wrong right or someone else did something very very wrong. Highway yeah exactly. That's so that's true. If you live in big cities it might not be the same. You might think wow twenty five minutes. that's great anyway. So that was one Option it was also the smallest option so we are currently in a place. That's less than nine hundred square feet. No we're in over nine hundred. Ours is about twelve hundred square. Okay for a two bedroom like to. I mean it has to closets with each benching that are walking. That could honestly be a small bedroom. Totally you could put food on. I don't know if you could get a full twin bed. Rutan in this in our master for him back for thirty evil twin twenty two year going off the rails off the rails little bit at least a twin bed for sure would be comfortable but this first department was a two bedroom with a queen into twins and it was squeezed into eight hundred and thirty five square feet and we would be trapped in that one space for fourteen days like not being allowed to leave the room because like we have to pass a cova tests in the states. Three days before arrival in japan gets japan. Take a same day. Kobe tests and assuming we all pass get in a taxi. Go to this location and stay there like. We're not allowed to go out for food. We're not allowed to go out for exercise. We're not allowed to go out for anything. You know bar like a catastrophe soleil. Yeah even we'd have to. We have to submit to like front desk. Temperature checks like we have to submit our temperature checks in the mornings and afternoons. It's insane like it really. I mean it's not agent. It's yes thorough. It's japan it's japanese. So that's one option. And joe and i even though we really liked the commute idea and the the layout of the apartment was nice. We already feel really tightly squeezed in the apartment that were in and we've already received noise complaints apparently from multiple people in this apartment building. And so we're just kind of nervous about being in such a small area for such a long time with three kids. I just can't imagine how they're gonna handle not being able to physically leave a closed room. Because it's i mean there's multiple rooms within the space but like i feel like it will be so hard for kind of car. So that's why we started to entertain the other three options senate because they had larger square footage but the commutes got more and more inconvenient for the school side of things where felicia it's going to have to pack up a baby and these two kids are gonna have to walk with a stroller and like brave rush hour to get the kids to school but there in some all three of them were actually in some really interesting areas. I don't know how much we want to disclose about the areas now. We don't need to disclose anything about the areas but the two other options that we we were great options but just didn't really fit with what we were doing. We're basically right across the street from one another and nothing was wrong with them. It's just that the fourth option was really great for options. Really great explain what the fourth the fourth the fourth location is like twentieth to twenty sixth floor to three bedroom with two bath and around twelve hundred thirteen hundred square feet. So it's just it's like slightly bigger than this but it has like a really large open concept living room and then the three bedrooms are kind of smashed together so we could actually have a nursery for co. We start sleep training her and then it has a master bad and two twins in the other beds for the kids. But it's got like a a walkout balcony overlooks tokyo tower. Which is really sweet. I mean that anything overlooks tokyo tired. But it's just a nice it's a nice spot and yeah and it's got some really great amenities to that. We're looking forward to Just like they have like a fitness center and spa in in the building and room service if we wanted or mom ritual need which will leave. Teachers have literally won't be able to go get food like we can't grocery shop even his Some members of his japan team the relocation team was like should he live close to us so we can like bring him food for the fourteen days that he's not allowed out of his house so like it was a legitimate concern. Like how are we going to get food because we are literally not allowed to leave the house once. We were the the hotel or apartment once. We're there we are stuck and we have five miles to feed and no way to get food and so it was definitely like an issue so like at least until we figure out like what apps deliberately on what places deliver and things like that like it would be nice to have that option And so yeah we decided. Joe wrote an email this afternoon or this evening. That was just like yeah. We're we're thinking about doing the the fourth option we've actually. We've always wanted to live in like a high-rise building And we wanted to see what that would look like when we were when we first moved to cincinnati and we just couldn't make ourselves do it for the rent like it was just like not feasible for us because we didn't want to be that outlandish when it comes to have one income and yet eventually three kids so we landed in suburbia so. It's it's exciting for i. Forty four days like we will live in city and get to kind of experience that life for forty four days. You know and all the first fourteen will be fourteen. We'll get to experience an apartment and apartment yell or on apartment. Carry allowed to leave the room so we're not even allowed to leave the name. Yeah we get off the tax state in the room for fourteen days. That's why like i. That's why spaces such a big thing. I think about that like we won't even be able to use like the amenities that are there for the first fourteen days. But i think it'll be really great for us for that thirty days because after that like felicia taking the kids to preschool and kindergarten every day. That's an hour commute for our kenya lanes with multiple stops. I'll have a twenty five minute commute to work. So i lucked out. Actually he got the cl- that was the closest one actually to your work in selfishly like that. That's really cool on my because that'll give me some margin. Although i need to see where it compares to the hostile networks. I'll be working but so we're excited about that. But i'm just hoping that it's going to be a really restful space for us because in addition to me going to work in this new context felicia doing this the schooling. We're going to have to also be taking day trips to be looking at different homes somewhere in the midst of that. Yeah and it's not in the same area that this apartments in it's it's actually closer to where kids school is which is an hour away so it'd be hard. It's going to be difficult especially if the kid the kids are going to be in school all day. Taking that train ride home. Are they gonna want to go back out again and get some. I don't know we're going to do but but we know food. Numerous school or very familiar with the area. It's it's going to be an adventure. The apartments fully furnished so it has furniture linens dish. Wear toaster is one of the house and iron. It actually said towel knowing my all have to share neck is the first fourteen days. It'll be everything in our life towel. Such a tour. We'll have to live out a sikh cases for the first fourteen days. Quarantine whatever's furnished. And then i get to go back as what. I think how it works. Go back to the airport and we have to sign off cups crater crate in well. That will release the crate and we'll get delivered to our apartment and then we'll have like more cookware and more close more toys to felt the space for the thirty day transition areas. It's like four in the norm at the end of it. Once we pick our final locational repack everything and move it by train around by car van. So we won't have to like move all right up by train which have been a nightmare would be a nightmare because we plan on doing this without car. Yes so yeah. We're going to japan without a car and without home and that's we missile third living arrangement six four months really. I mean it's a lot of for kids got from home. You always grew up in two smaller. Us-based furnished apartment that becomes a playground till like japanese high rise and then a home in japan. And then you're you're like there for five years. A lot of transitions though for the kids. I mean luckily our kids are young and they're pretty adaptable children. What's in kaisei you though. Because i thought it was super cute if you do remember because i think you're trying to apologize to him. Oh well yeah. You've noticed that he's been kind of anxious and like biting this nails nails are down to the nubs. You guys surprise. He's been like brooding and like so. I was just like hey nobody. I'm sorry that like you know we've been through a lot of moving and you've been really anxious from the house. Oh you don't have to apologize. I love this apartment. He's just like fully present here. You know so you know. We're freaking out about noise complaints and making sure we don't get kicked out like he's just enjoying the transition even though there's been shifts in his behavior it's nice to know that he's enjoying the movement because that's where the lack of stability it'd be hard. I think the lack of stability might be harder for us than them in some ways like just logistically. I think it's on us that we're stuck in the in between well with. Yeah i mean. We've been trying to go to japan for over a year now. Yeah when we're offered. I mean suggest not no like yeah. That's stressful to like just be pulled around in so many different directions like when you first told me you were like sit down like this is happening. We're going to be on the plane on a plane the next couple of months and then it happened and we weren't on a plane you know and so yeah it's crazy. It's a big jump worksite. For we're exciting for its legally but we tired but it was encouraging after our last night. Podcast being super tired and somewhat stressed about everything with this noise complaint to then see like okay. We aren't in this apartment forever and to really be presented for crazy generous housing options like they are going well out of their way to accommodate our family. And it's just so homeboy in such a blessing that they're working so hard to make us comfortable. Yeah i'm using where we're at now is is nice to go. You know and the fact that we're not we're just living here with like no strings attached really. You know we couldn't do that without help. So we're very grateful away awesome. Well it looks like leashes about to fall harder. Chair fell apart. No sleep over. We gotta be careful because there's cameras and stuff who want she'd sleep near flames. It's not a good idea. Never out no. You remember that scene in in baby mama. She's like no. I don't talk bro. I just remember the shower scene racist. I'm clean and then i think it's either shortly before or right like before that are shortly after that were she's like This is what you have to do to a woman who falls asleep with a curling iron in her hair and then she goes only happened to times carrying her baby. It's irresponsible i remember that. And it's the responsible woman is like taking care of her now because she ran out on her husband any nausea. Did she die. Your hair's why shouldn't up in the shower just trying to get my roots in yet all those chemicals. Anyway if you haven't seen baby mama it's one of those movies. You have to watch like three times for it to become funny. It's really good. It's very true but at face value. like why. why are we laughing. Tina phase in it. Amy poehler and steve. Martin jack sheppard has a minor role in it too. So it briefly. I enjoyed it. Awesome to revolu shannon in the hope that you subscribe to our content mayor ever satisfy scribes. Scribes scribes okay. 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Two-bedroom rentals are out of range for low-wage workers across the U.S.
"This marketplace podcast is supported by out systems. The application platform that enables every company to innovate through software out. Systems accelerates the development of business critical cloud applications build the difference without systems for more information visit out systems dot com slash action. Hey is jed. Kim host a million bazillion million brazilian is a podcast for kids and families. That helps dollars make more sense in each episode. We tackle the tricky questions that your kids have about money. Like how is it made is our factory somewhere that makes it. Or what determines the price of visa and we're back with all new episodes. That's more answers to the questions. Your kids wanna know thoughtful ones. The silly ones and the really hard. To answer one's million. Zillion listen wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota not cindy executives to the olympics for marketplace in austin texas. I'm andy you in for david brancaccio. I we have a new report highlighting. Just how unaffordable. Rents have become for low wage workers across a lot of the us. Finance experts recommend spending no more than a third of income on housing expenses but according to the national low income housing coalition. that's impossible for many minimum wage. Workers marketplace's meghan. Mccarthy carino has more researchers compared federal data on rents nationwide to local minimum wages for a minimum wage earner who works full-time a two bedroom. Rental is out of reach in every state says. Report co author dan three. These workers provide invaluable services for designing. But they're making wages that will actually allow them to afford homes in their area. He says the disparity is the worst in california cities where minimum wage is at least fourteen dollars an hour yet a worker. Earning that amount in san francisco would need the equivalent of nearly five fulltime jobs to afford a two bedroom rental. But it's not only pricey coastal cities that are unaffordable says richard green at the university of southern california. You have places where it's just it's the cost of the housing and then you go to the places where people make any money. He says two things are playing out. In different ways across the country housing shortages drive prices higher and minimum wages. Don't always keep pace. I'm megan mccarthy carino for marketplace one of the biggest sponsors of the tokyo olympics japanese carmaker. Toyota says it's executives aren't going to attend the games opening ceremony on friday due to rising corona virus cases and polls show a majority of people in japan. Actually don't want the competition to take place. The bbc's alex capstick is in tokyo as one of the biggest sponsors toyota plows millions of dollars into the olympic movement but despite all of their financial support the company has decided. It's wrong to attend an opening ceremony where fans have been barred because of rising covert cases. The company has also decided not to run any games related adverts on japanese television or they will be shown abroad in may leading official from the car giant said. They were conflicted over the best course of action amid concerns that the games are taking place. The bbc's alex capstick this marketplace podcast is supported by personal capital. Who can help you take control of your finances no matter where you are. Download the personal capital app or start today at personal capital dot com to get free professional grade financial tools including a retirement. Planner and fi analyzer. Want to talk. Personal capital has registered advisors by phone or online for qualified users personal capital. There's no place like financial confidence late last week. The european union rolled out an ambitious climate. Change mitigation agenda one that included a carbon border tax. Now that would be the first of its kind in is basically a fee on planet warming carbon embedded in goods produced outside the twenty-seven member block scott barrett is a professor of natural resource economics at columbia university and he joins me now to discuss what this means. Scott good morning good morning. I'm curious from your perspective. This idea of implementing climate change initiatives implementing sort of the idea that we have to face climate change in the realities and putting them in the things. Like trade deals is. This novel is a new idea. Sort of how did this come about. The idea has been kicking around a long time. And it's actually come up in the climate negotiations before but never carried further but it has come up before it had appeared in. Us legislation the so-called waxman-markey. Bill inc an element of this very similar to the eu proposal and europe itself adopted something like this for one sector for international aviation some years ago but that was never fully implemented or put differently it was they backed off from it when there was a threat of retaliation by other countries. There's also we've talked about this one hundred times on marketplace but sort of the idea of a market opportunity here for countries. If you get out in front i mean. China has been pretty explicit about getting out in front of the idea of clean energy and renewables and things like that there are economic benefits to being sort of the first out there right there are benefits potentially provided you get this transformation worldwide. So in other words it has to be the case that the markets are changing everywhere because then the countries that move early to develop the technologies. We'll find markets so you're playing this delicate game. Where on the one hand you're trying to push out to urge the rest of the world to go and you're hoping you're going to gain from that the what what happens if the rest of the world doesn't join you and that's what's been going on for about thirty years. This is partly what they're trying to get at with this measure but they're actually other ways in which they might push it even further but that really should be handled much more at the multilateral level. So i think another implication of this is that we may need to rethink how we negotiate agreements like the paris agreement to bring in measures like this that are negotiated and therefore agreed by the different countries but that really propel action globally to address this great threat. These are proposals. these certainly aren't laws. You're going to have cases in front of the wto. i would imagine arguments of protectionism. Do we have a time line idea of how this sort of place that you talked about thirty years of dealing with this is that i hope that's not what we're looking at. I don't think it is. I think europe is going to be moving forward with this They have a lot to work out. They have their own internal negotiations to sort out. But i think they're going to want to move forward this now as they do. We'll have to see how other countries respond as well and as we did. We saw this played out before with the aviation directive. So this is basically the first shot across the bow. But i do think that no one can really accept the status quo ante. Because that's been ineffective and i think it is really inevitable that any serious action on climate change is going to have to link with trade. It's just finding the way to link trade. In climate that is not disruptive to trade just not damage relations among countries and does address the collective action problem getting countries to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions. Scott barrett is professor of natural resource economics at columbia university. Scott thanks again for doing this. Oh thank you very much in. Spain said it's building an urban forest around madrid. try to help collect greenhouse gases as well. I'm andy euler with the marketplace morning. Report from apm. American public media is molly would host of marketplace tech a show that helps you understand the digital economy. How a more of the country get access to better internet. What new jobs will artificial intelligence create or destroy and what tools will help us. Survive are already changing climate. We tell the stories behind the technology in our lives and every weekday. Our podcast brings you insight. You won't hear on the radio checkout marketplace tech. Wherever you get your podcasts.
Woman Accuses Biden Administration of Anti-Gay Discrimination in Foster Program
"Brought to you by audible. Turned down because of who I am. Woman accuses Biden administration of anti gay discrimination in foster program. By Madeline Carlyle Kelly Easter wanted to help, like many Americans, she watched the news in 2020 in dismay at the conditions awaiting unaccompanied migrant children at the U.S. Mexico border. Easter, of 47 year old realtor, lives alone in her two bedroom apartment in Nashville, Tennessee. I have the resources, I thought, why not? Let me help. She tells time. In her research, Easter came across the unaccompanied children program, a program through which the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, HHS, places migrant children into temporary foster care until they can be united with vetted sponsors in the United States. Easter says she asked HHS office of refugee resettlement how to get involved and was directed to Bethany Christian services, faith based nonprofit that runs the arm of the program in her area. Easter says she first contacted Bethany in September 2020, and was encouraged to apply. But Easter whose lesbian started to worry when she read online that Bethany had refused to work with LGBTQ parents in the past. Bethany announced on March 1st, 2021, that it would begin providing services to LGBTQ parents nationwide. Easter reached back out to ask for guidance after a year of back and forth, Easter says she was told by Bethany, August 12th, 2021, that she could not apply to the unaccompanied child program in their east Nashville office because of her sexual orientation. I literally cried Easter tells time just to be turned down because of who I am. It was really surreal. On October 13th, Easter filed a federal lawsuit against HHS, along with specific HHS officials and programs with the assistance of LGBTQ civil rights group lambda legal, the nonprofit Americans united for separation of church and state and the law firm auric Harrington and sutcliffe LLP. Easter alleges that by funding and administering a federal program through an organization that discriminates based on sexual orientation, HHS has enabled discrimination and violated the constitution. HHS is committed to protecting the rights of LGBTQ individuals and ensuring access to our programs and services. The administration for children and families within HHS, which runs the program tells time when asked for comment, as with any lawsuit filed naming the federal government, we will respond in the time and manner the court may stipulate. The issue lies in the flow of money. HHS awards grants to numerous partners, including the U.S. conference of Catholic bishops, U.S. CCB to run the unaccompanied children program. U.S. CCB directs that grant money to Bethany's office in east Nashville to administer the program in the area, and U.S. CCB's contract limits what types of families Bethenny can certify based on sexual orientation or gender identity. A U.S. CCB spokesperson tells time they're aware of the lawsuit, but declined to comment. Conscious of this contractual limitation, Bethany opened a second office in Tennessee in May, which would administer the unaccompanied child program through a contract with the Lutheran immigration and refugee service, the LI RS, which places no restrictions on LGBTQ people. Bethany Christian services is committed to welcoming and serving all individuals and families of Bethany spokesperson tells time in an October 17th statement. We invite anyone who's interested in providing children with a safe loving home to contact us and begin the licensing process today. Easter says she was told to apply to the new office instead, which is a 30 minute drive from her home. Per her complaint, a foster child would have to visit that office twice a day on weekdays to receive education, requiring two hours of daily driving that Easter's work could not accommodate. In her complaint, Easter argues that by not being allowed to apply in the east Nashville office, she's effectively been excluded from participating in the program entirely. What HHS has basically allowed to happen here is segregation argues Karen Louie, senior counsel at lambda legal. The role of religion in foster care services was a key element of last year's Supreme Court case, Fulton versus the city of Philadelphia, in which the high court unanimously ruled that Philadelphia could not refuse to work with a Catholic agency because it would not certify same sex couples as foster parents. While advocates had worried the case could strike a major blow to LGBTQ rights, the court's ruling was relatively narrow, focusing on the specifics of Philadelphia's contract with the agency, the Catholic social services CSS. The court punted on larger questions raised in oral arguments, such as weather, religious organizations are exempt from generally applicable non discrimination requirements. Low we argues Easter's lawsuit centers on different legal claims than in Fulton, the establishment clause of the First Amendment and the equal protection clause guaranteed in the Fifth Amendment, and unlike in Fulton Lowe says and LGBTQ person was actually turned away in Easter's case. There's actually harm here in two directions, she says, the harm to Easter and the harm to the kids in the government's custody. I was raised Southern Baptist, I identify as a Christian. I completely respect religious freedom Easter says. I just think that when it comes to government being involved in funding a program and now my government is telling me I'm not worthy of taking care of a child simply because I'm gay, that's where the line gets crossed for me. I had a home ready for a kid to have a safe place to be, she continues, a warm bed, good food, a nice, loving, supportive home, and a kit out there was denied that. Looking for more entertaining stories, try audible. 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Towers East : Affordable Living Downtown Greenville
"It's Saturday January the fifth, and this is we can pulse. I'm Joey Hudson. Your host heat Saturday. We gather twelve noon to talk about places to go people to see charitable events and everything in between right here in the upstate South Carolina, western North Carolina and northeast Georgia. Glad to have you along. Be sure I'm visit our website ninety four five the answer dot com like us on Facebook and follow us on Twitter at talk non four or five. If you have an early download their mobile out in the encourage you to text me the key word iphone or Android to our big rock Tech's eight seven seven two three five nine four zero five your quick link. So you can take your favorite talk radio station anywhere in the world. If you're fifty five and older and on a limited income life, just got better. But I'm getting a little bit ahead of myself. Let me introduce you to a friend of mine. Brian Dabney with adventure ad agency. Brian's one of those guys who he takes an idea he brings it to life over the years. Brian has worked with a number of different businesses to help them grow and promote their business. Brian, obviously. All of your clients, hire you to system in marketing their business, regardless of what their product or services and your goal. Brian is to help bring more customers in the door and increase the profitability of that clients business, and I'm sure that you get much satisfaction was seeing these businesses grow and succeed. But you have a new client. That's a bit different for you. Brian towers east in downtown Greenland, we all know, the importance of affordable housing everywhere. But with the growth downtown Greenville, affordable housing has become a bigger challenge and towers east is under new ownership there in the middle of an aggressive renovation, and Brian you are helping these guys out reintroduce if you will towers east, and that's gonna have to be very satisfying for you to help seniors fifty five and older some of our disabled. They're all have a limited income, and you're basically reintroducing towers east to the upstate and helping these folks find affordable housing, and that has to be that's different for you. Is it not? That really is Joey, and it's like you said it's really rewarding. We get to work with people. And I'm repeating what you said. But it's important that are on fixed incomes. These people don't have a lot of options. So they re rely on us to to give him a Ford -able housing and not just a formal housing housing. You wanna live in somewhere, you'd wanna take a relative and make sure that they were taking care of there being clean environment with all the immunities that they would need to have a healthy life there, and Brian you've been around Greenville for awhile to, and we we all know as mentioned a minute ago. We know the challenge of affordable housing downtown. I mean few years ago. Did you ever think that we would see the the boom that we're seeing in in living people living downtown, I really did actually know the mayor from years past and he had mentioned that he's been, you know, something he's been thinking of for years and planning. It was no mistake green both really planned will. But to see. See the boom like you're talking about the last three years or so all the apartments in downtown Greenville and around down will it's amazing. And like you said those are apartments that are very nice and a lot of ways very expensive and with towers east. They're making affordable living downtown, which is almost unheard of yet. Well with the new development, and I was speaking with a buddy of mine just a couple of weeks ago about the building going on in downtown green one, I'm the lifelong Greenville. So I'll remember the days when when I was was a child, and my mom would take me downtown to shop, and you know, you had a JC Penney down there you had bail. You had Meyers Arnold who which was a local business. And and that's where I shopped when I was in in school, and then as I got closer to high school, you had Haywood mall opened Greenville mall, and and of course, we'd had Macau square for while there, but things moved out of downtown. And there was a period of time there, Brian that you didn't even wanna be downtown. It wasn't a kind of a great. It was. It was a little bit of a goes pound. Wasn't it? Yeah. It was. There was nothing there. There was no reason to go down there. But look we've seen that change so drastically, but I was talking with his buddy of mine who's sort of in the developing field there, and he was saying that there's about five thousand new units while apartments and condos that are under construction. This very moment. And that's just just amazing that this many people are wanting to live downtown. And of course, as you mentioned with the higher in the comes with higher, rents a higher mortgage payments. And it's really become an issue with having housing affordable is pushing some people out of the downtown area because they just can't afford it. And look there's no in my mind to see our senior citizens to see the this age group and a lot of these again or or disabled individuals and their own alot of fixed income to see them struggling to live downtown. I it just really is a challenge. And again, it's got to be satisfying for you to be working with this new class. Oh, so here we have now the capital realty group. They are right in the middle of this aggressive renovation of towers as you, and I spent some time down there this past week kind of walk in through this amazing what they're doing with these apartments Brian aid. Really completely renovated. They're taking everything out. And starting a new, and that's got a lot of challenges because they have two hundred plus people or two hundred plus units occupied. So they have to really be surgical and how they do this and how they move their people around. So they can be comfortable while they do these innovations. There's two hundred seventy one units they are believe they told us the other day, and that is that that is a juggling act. It would have to be to try to to do renovations. While you have people living there. But of course, they have a number of units that have been renovated and the ready for new tenants. And this is where Brian comes in and adventure ad agency. And hopefully, we're going to be able to play a small part here at ninety four five WGTK the answer of leading the upstate. No that towers east is open for business. They are ready for new residents talk with us a minute, Brian if someone who's listening today, they're interested in living there themselves, or maybe they have an elderly, parent or an aunt or an. Uncle or someone that they help with talk with us about how Reese the right person down there and to to get started with this application process. Okay. Well, I'm going to start off with just giving you a phone number and main that you can call you'll call towers Easter it, and it's on a four fifteen north main street and the phone number. There is eight six four two three two one zero four one again, eight six four two three two one zero four one and that's the business office. You can call there between ninety m and four PM you can ask for Alice or Angela anyone who answers going to be able to help you. They're going to walk you through the process, they'll be Napa -cation process at once you to come down and fill out. But again, if you call eight six four two three two one zero four one Alyssa be able to walk through the process. There's a lot of exciting things going on should be answering your questions a little bit. What you'd like me to tell them Joey? And that's in. And that's easy to if you're driving today, and you're listening to this. You can't remember that number. I'm gonna make it easy for you to just text the keyword tower. T O W E R tower to our big rock Texana, and that's eight seven seven two three five nine four zero five and I'm going to send you a quick link. That's going to give you this information. Just text the keyword tower. T O W E R two eight seven seven two three five nine four zero five this our big rock Tech's on and I'll send you a link with that phone number because again, Brian you, obviously there may be people listening today who are looking for place themselves, but they might be people out there to just have a relative, or you know, the other day we looked at a beautiful apartment that a church had helped furnishing all for one of their members. Maybe there's a church out there who has a member who needs some help. And you're looking for that perfect place to help them move to towers east is it. I mean, you can't beat this Brian you, and I looked at a unit I think it was on the fifteenth floor. It was an. In a two bedroom unit. There's no better view in downtown Greenville than that fifteenth four from towers east. It really was you had to view of the bond secures north main street downtown Greenville, even Saint George the orthodox church was of you each window had a different view. You couldn't beat it. It was just amazing. And the great news to residents were going to be able to enjoy all new air conditioning new flooring disabuse flooring throughout the apartment. A brand new. New appliances the bathrooms are new even the fixtures. When I say that the lighting fixtures. Everything in those units. New now four fifteen north main street if you've lived in Greenville any length of time, you're familiar with ours. Isa's been there for quite a while now, but the this new group the capital realty group is taking over management. They're renovating. They're making it bring it up to to speed if you will of what we need today. But the other part of this to Brian is it's not just an apartment. I it's not just a place to live, but it's going to be a lifestyle occurs. They're going to have resonance be able to enjoy plan social Vince monthly trips on is being right downtown Greenville. There's plenty to do in that area. But it's also on the city's bus line right there at the front door is the bus stop. You can't be another thing you mentioned they're gonna they have to free planned events every week. So they've got a I I'm old school. I call it barbershop, but they have on their own printing. They even have a doctor that comes in every Tuesday from nine AM to four PM. If you need to see an onsite physician so is independent living. But they do offer things to help people out along the way. Thing that caught my attention when I was looking at this beautiful brochure that you sent over here is pet friendly. Yes. You know? I'm a big a pet lover of Jesse and cocoa. We lost blackjack a year or so ago, Jesse and cocoa are two cocker spaniels. And you know, I just can't imagine I would imagine. This would be the case with some of the seniors not being able to find a place that you could take your pet. Exactly. And that's a big deal. I don't have to express if your pet owner. We don't have to tell you what big deal is. And it's funny. You say that I'm I've been labrador owner my whole life, and I'm going to pick up my new one this weekend at twelve week. Oh lab. So I know how important that would be to me. So again is four fifteen north main street towers east right in the heart of downtown Greenville. If you're fifty five or older, and on a limited income, maybe you have some type of disability. You would qualify for this. Just give them a call eight six four two three two one zero four one. Again, I'm gonna put this up to you can just text the keyword tower. Two eight seven seven two three five nine four zero five, and we'll keep you updated along the way because this is going to be a process a believe, Brian. If our memory said that there's obviously they've got about thirty or so they've already completed and this is an ongoing process. Gonna take them into next year. He said he hoped finished by late December early January with all the renovations. And so it's like you said it's gonna own going, and there's going to be news every few weeks to to talk about Brian Dabney with the adventure at agency. Thank you again for including ninety four five WGTK the answer with this. We're so happy to partner with you on. This is just a great project. And again, I I take great pride to that. We will play a small part in hopefully, reintroducing towers east, and and being able to help people who are looking for a a decent affordable place to live in downtown Greenville that will be able to send some folks that way and help them find a home and also helped the capital royalty group as well. Thank you. I appreciate your time. And work of next Tony Lee with county sheriff's office gives us our weekly crime stoppers update that a much more hill ninety four five WGTK the answer. In the middle of. But you've been no everything. Jazz.
Episode 123: The RKO Heard Round the World
"Closed. Fist means no, Nazis, the Nazi not than. Punts pulse. Punks the now she's high. As an welcomes backs to punts. The Nazis of names, we can't have for this podcast episode punts the Nazis cheese, punish Nashes. Zero credits. Running for president just the billionaires that quivalent of starting podcast. Welcome back. Show. We talked about things. And mining John and the new room, it's a we're Henry John and the new zero credits to bed two bath apartment studios with our fridge running in the background that we're not sure whether or not you can hear I was gonna say that this is the first time I've recorded a podcast next to a refrigerator. But then I remembered the famous lost episode where I got very drunk and a hotel room next to mini fridge and read poetry that lost that pet. We'll never see the light of day really want to try to get it. I've always encouraged to do to try to do that I recorded on a web based service on my Chromebook. And when I log in the files there, but wanna try bring it up. It crashes. So I don't know it's constant state of flux, much like our lives. Yes. Constant flux, get flux te get flux my. My life. However is by live. That's my life. No, stop my life ever going to become more stable soon. Because Eminonu -partment I'm gonna marry my wife. Ooh. What's from my live? I don't know. I'm gonna marry my wife. She's not my wife now, I wanna marry my why up I'm gonna marry my fiancee she's going to move in. And then we're going to be kicked into a small room. That's quiet. Yes. We are going to move from this palatial combination living room kitchen into guest bedroom slash podcast, dodge, exactly, we're going up, some nice brick. It's my stonework some chains to the Janus there. Yeah. It's going to be real Roger stone's situation. Yeah. The FBI is to burst in here and physically relocate us to the dungeon. Yeah. They're going to take pictures of our shameful Nixon bacteria twos. Is that a real thing? Yeah. Roger stone has a has a tattoo of Richard Nixon's face. Stop me if I'm wrong, but didn't Roger stone? Get his start working for Nixon during Watergate, I believe so and he got a tattoo of his boss. Roger Roger stone is a certified rube. You got your you. Gotta get a tattoo of your boss. You know, you have to be really you have to be specific kind of person a specific under shitty person for me, not to feel bad that militarized police force objected you from your home while they weren't getting paid at that. Yeah. Man. They were happy to donate that time to to nail Roger stone. I guess how crazy is that people were going to work for almost a month for no pay. I saw a tweet. I don't know who by by some some random tweeter that said like it's been almost. A month Americans not getting paid, and there are no riots. No, protests men American. Sure yard different the the other. Sure different other than the fact that on the eve of a second myspace check, they stopped showing up for work, and that should end a real quick all you have to do apparently to get the government back in order is just delay a couple of flights at LaGuardia. Yeah. The really the second that you start fucking with transportation the second. These people are like, okay, I'm going to use my sick days now because this everyone who say the Nancy Pelosi is like responsible for the Shikha to end. No like, I appreciate that. They didn't flinch. I appreciate that. They didn't give them billions of dollars for a dumb wall or border security to behead innocent people. But I sure I'm glad that people are like congratulations, Nancy Pelosi. Those fucking people who didn't show up to this was like an old fashioned no show strike and specifically. Really, it's not just mess with transportation. Because I bet you this happened like in Utah, not the same effect is specifically transportation and New York City on the east coast because that's where they live. That's where they that's word hurts them. I mean, really the fastest way to to get any rich person to notices for their chauffeur to strike like this the second. You start majorly inconvenienced the people who actually hold the seat of power in American politics turns out, we get a government again for a month. Yeah. People who are not used to getting told no get told. No like, what do you mean? Ni- can't get on my plane. You know, who I am how much I it's like it doesn't matter. If no can check you in. Yeah. The great thing. And I really hope Americans. Learn something from what happened here I desperately hope that we realize the power of not showing. Up to work. Like, there's a there's a tremendous power in not giving people what they want because at the end of the day. It doesn't matter. How much these people wanna fly to fuck in Brussels or whatever because there's no one there to fly them or the man. Yeah. Like, the power employees over the the power that employees have over employers cannot be overstated because without employees employers, do not exist. They don't make money without money. There's no company Fateh company. They're not employers to be an employer to is to be a contingent relationship to your employees. You have extreme intrinsic power over your boss. Yeah. But they don't want you to know that because it's a second. You do new union is there's a reason why the eight unions. Hey, Henry, be quiet. We live in a state where unions are basically legal. They're legal in Texas and Texas union can be in a consultation. Active position of but unions cannot strike collectively bargain you want to unionize podcast. That'd be great found casters of the world unionize foot. Who would we collectively bargain against listeners? Yes, we demand you pay us this much come on atrium fans. Yes. But no, I think that also that's extreme bullshit like the Texas teacher's union. It definitely exists and they do good work, but they're really neutered compared to a lot of states where teachers can strike and collectively bargain. But also, the state of Texas really just likes to twist the nuts of anyone who's like a worker. Non Bush wa what is Texas. Have you seen the way that politicians from Texas dress around election time, pretty Larry's the put on cowboy hats over the Lone Star all these people who wear suits who were born in suits, suddenly I wear. Like, a striped flannel. But that's that pattern material and then long tight blue jeans that are obviously like iron breast their stint. And it's like yet, y'all Osei y'all all the time you all woops Amini, all I love, Texas, Amatil, crews names Theodore Ted Cruz at running for Texas State supreme leader of the world, you know, really thought for a long time. But the way that the American and the human dream died was by a skull getting crushed by jackboot turns on it's a skull getting crushed by a cowboy boot instead and the cowboy you pan up, it's zodiac killer. I mean, ten cruise or or replaced with almost every other Texas politician. He's a hellish place. Glad we live in the one place. That is okay. Yeah. Brussels, brussels. New Browns field. Let's Martha get. Awakened name. A lot of Texas cities. Kyle. Let's get away from Texas cities and politics, which we keep sliding into that trap. Because it's so easy. It's always open, and they paid it with peanut butter. It's almost not fair. And let's let's pivot to something that you wanna talk to about. Yet talked to topics talk about topics something you want to speak on very much. And I know you've been dying about it. A dying about it. Every even dying around it. Dine in it anything. You do a box you've been dying. It talk about even dragged me for my news twenty apartment, which we're in right now to your Schwanke apartment because we're both in the one percent of people who have apartments to watch a pay per view of it. Yes. Well, it was a pay per view of and I did pay to view it. But I paid a pittance it is of course, the world wrestling entertainment, second or third most popular of the year. I'm referring, of course to the Royal rumble. So there's the Royal rumble. There's of course, wrestlemainia. Yes. And then there's the summer smackdown. Sandra slam. Yes. Summer slammed punch. These are the three events of wrestling. They're the big three for sure wrestlemainia, you know, your most popular wrestlemanias. Usually the biggest. It's the biggest attraction then you have your summer slam, which is a little bit crazy. And then you have your Royal rumble, which to be honest with you, and to be honest with the listeners as well. I like professional wrestling, it has been a facet of my life pretty much since I was a very small child in one way or another. I'm not like a huge fam-. I don't know everybody as was demonstrated by watching a Royal rumble. As a matter of fact, but I've not watched a lot of Royal rebels. Really not since I was a child or a teen. And this was the first Royal rumble. I'd seen quite some time. And on paper, the Royal rumble seems like a good idea you get upwards of twenty wrestlers total of thirty. Yes. Upwards of twenty one by even say thirty thirty wrestlers in the ring over the course of a period of time, and it's an elimination match where people have to be thrown over the top rope hit the ground both feet to be eliminate. It'd and thus not they're not in contention for the winner of the rumble so theory, and it's an exciting. Great time, you know, thirty wrestlers could you name thirty wrestlers, I could not. So there's gonna be some surprises some people from the past maybe some up and comers. Maybe someone from all from from famous from years ago coming in to wrestle in the Royal rumble in practice in practice fell asleep in if you notice in practice, the Royal rumble, I did not notice to gross I fell asleep. So the Royal rumble this year, and I don't know if this is the way that it is every year, but it was I will say a stacked card in that you had to Royal rumbles which will get into a little bit later. Each of the clocking over an hour in length. The total length of the entire program was five hours of ten minutes. Insane. That is too much wrestling. That's insane. You know, what I like about like any other sport a shorter than that? Yeah. Even baseball. Yeah. Baseball's boring. Yeah. Even even the most boring sports, really only cricket is longer than the Royal rumble. Yet. It's true because cricket can go on for days. But of course, we we had the very stacked card it went on seemingly forever. And that's really the thing that I always run into with wrestling events, even wrestlemainia in summer, slam which I love I just started watching them, and boy, I run out of steam because they get so much less instrument. Interesting. Once you've been sitting there for four hours really wears on you stamina wise to to watch match after match and your your site for the two big events your site for the two Royal rumbles? And then you see them they start promoting these other matches like the universal championship match and some other championship. Match and then another championship match, and you realize oh those happen. Those are going to happen right now. Those are happening. Those are happening right now, the the amount of content that they manage to stuff into one row row because when you think of rubble just being thirty entrance ninety seconds separated. Each ish change it up for drama, but ninety second delay between entrance strip away, the the usual plotting elements of a wrestling match. So no pin falls, no submissions. If you go over the top rope and both of your few touch the ground you're eliminated. So you turn through people relatively quickly. You get some decent new talent out there. But when you actually have to look at this card for that long. It's just exhausting and whereas before in previous Royal rumbles, they kept the guest list. Mystery. But in this one they announced the head of time who would be there. Yes, they they did well somewhat they did announce a head of time who would be in the role rubble, but they did play with that to to some play expectations a little bit a tiny bit with one entry. Yes. Well, not with one that that in the in the women's two wireless talking at the men's I excuse me. I was talking about the men's and the women's you're right. They did. In fact, also play with it once. Yes for total of two times. And I think we can just kind of get into talking about the card because we watch pretty much the whole thing. Now, you keep saying the card. What are you? Why why are you? What what are you saying the car just means the layout of and schedule of matches wrestling event why they call it a card. I don't know this call the card you're supposed to wrestling favorite sport will the call car because back in the twenties when people used to bet on professional wrestling, they would take these big cards. So the dog tracks and they would tie them to the dogs. They've believed this isn't seem like it's true. So I would like first of all to talk to you about the Bobby rude, and Chad Gable versus res are. And Scott Dawson match in the kickoff show. So I didn't see any of the kick option. I was late. I did not see this one. The only thing that I saw in the kickoff show was a fatal four way. I think with buddy Murphy defending its Hideo, Tommy curator's, our and Callisto you did. Not see that kickoff show. However, this is something that genuinely believe with the WWE this the the actual main event things kinda suck compared to the things that are meant to get less. Attention. This match was cool all of these people were relatively underrepresented you to really strong figures from Japan and someone gut lake launched. I want to say ten feet in the air. It was very impressive. I think that's kind of a common trend. The opening band is always better than the headlining act, and then you had Oscar defending against Becky Lynch for the smackdown allows the first matches the night. Yes. That was the first match post appreciation that was the smackdown women's championship. Because every fucking match was a championship of some kind of belt either changed hands or stayed in big twenty hands for the entirety of the night. There was no no non sequential matches. It's kind of like what the? NFL wants to do of every game. They wanna make every game count. They won every game the feel like a playoff game. And what happens is no game. Feels like a none of none of that feel special. Yeah, they try to make everything's feel special as a result. Nothing does up, but they moved so quickly. Like, it's like, oh, she just wanna championship title in this case Oscar one, I don't know spoiling. But who cares? It's a past event. And this case Oscar one is oh, okay. Good. She one. And then it's like boom there on to the next match yours. No interview after the match on the TV I've learned that on the website. There are interviews their websites. There's a bunch of additional content by reactivating WW network subscription, which I do two to three times a year. I realized that if you are the kind of person who only wanted to watch wrestling for the rest of your life and wanted to consume. No other media w w network would. Have you sorted for the rest of time? They create so much media. The only problem is that keep getting it. They get it behind websites on Monday night show. Yeah. So that while you're watching the actual event. It's kind of like, they do they do a brief synopsis of like the past history of the two fighters to get the story in. But a lot of that is just sped through. And it's like, oh, you're the commentator say something like, oh, yeah. They've got a really big rivalry. And none of that comes out on the actual match. Yeah. You can see maybe some of it if they do like a like, a promo clip kind of thing. But for the most part only tuning into major wrestling events, like do you get glimpses of a world that you're not part of and it's at times exhilarating, but most of the time just perplexing. Yeah. It's kinda like this could be so much better. It would be longer. So maybe you have less events. But if you did a lot of that stuff like. In the actual event in non all men. They've been building up for quite some time. You know last week on Monday night, raw this happened. And you know, all this all come down to this moment. Why not have that? Now tonight. Why not it's it's really on a Monday night. I think that you as someone who has written fiction and the WWE is fiction. I think that if you took the time not that I'm recommending you, do I think that if you took the time to try to study the story craft of WWE, you would be fascinated because it is so much writing and content and quasi improvisation to build on this completely fictional world. That it's I think the WWE as an entity might push more narrative driven content than any other company on earth because they're doing it constantly and without it. Yeah. So much. So that it's hard to follow. It's kind of like trying to play through all of team the hearts and keeping track of the story when you gotta play the cross eight different systems. This is like, oh, yeah. We got three different shows. We had a website with interviews. That's the better billing on at the same time as other content. So I guess pick. What you wanna see also, you know, we got books. Wait, the guy legend, I have two questions for you. What's number one is an XT birth by sleep? No. I think is actually dream drop distance number two is Vince McMahon's that Zappa nort. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, actually, probably yet he possesses the bodies of young people. View. This actually isn't wrong. I know this is also he travels freely through time entering people's bodies. You're making a joke, but you actually landed on the one to one analogy. Vince McMahon is Zinin art. I is it seven orders. It's been a little little little honesty between you and me and the fans John never played one of those games. Really? I have the whole collection in the drawer, and I'm waiting for my fiance's move in with me. So I could be like, hey, let's play through all kingdom hearts. I've played one to the PS p one. K I liked him a lot. I played a chain of memories for the Game Boy advance. But this is weirdly press press precedent since kingdom hearts three is coming out. We let's not talk about it came out today shit. But it's a perfect before. It's too was The Lion King because when you're Simba seora you drift endlessly as allies lion drifting. It's great and also back to wrestling. Yes. Back to read live in spic men is Nord and. Organization. Thirteen is the establishment triple h is more Riku? Okay. And seora is day O'Brien than darkness is all bed triple h so Oscar one now, I would be interested. You're going to beat by beat throughout the entire night. I do not remember individual matches. Gary we will talk about each match. Apparently, Becky Lynch is everyone's favourite. She is called the man of man, which I find highly offensive. It's very interesting that they say Becky Lynch codename say, but they're like codename the 'cause she's done everything. I don't know how that tracks. Then of course, we have the smackdown tank team champion at the it is the mizzen Shane McMahon to to people who I despise defending the bar, which is shame shameless. And. Sa's RO. This is the problem that I think I've I've come to realize in the current WWE Kaz classically. And maybe this is speak to a world. That's not as black and white. But classical you have your face, and your he'll you have your Eero. And you're you're bad guy. And the lines are drawn clearly in the sand. But from this event, they blurred those lines. This is a classic. He'll so is. So the other guy Shane McMahon. Those are classic heels. The bar on the other hand were hyped up as an played as a heel to the point where they did all the classic. He'll moves like they come out swinging and they attack before the bell. Do all the dirty tricks that he'll do, but the miss classically is one of the great like is he making a face turn is that what's happening with the men's. I don't it's almost impossible to keep up with a Ellis feel like this comes out a little bit more than we. The rumble. I think it's increasingly less important. Whether someone is a hero or a villain, which in my opinion is a misstep because even though in like peak television and storytelling as a whole. We're moving away from like dog Matic heroes and villains. I still think not being able to tell whether the person you're watching in the ring is a dick or not is kind of makes it difficult to watch. I did not joy that match. I'd give it a sea. And the thing is as a as a person who doesn't watch wrestling familiar with with a lot of this world. But as as someone I could go to a hockey game. You can tell me three things about hockey. And those are the things I'm going to pay attention to like, I now know what is seen is. And I watched that the entire match, and I could understand when I saw in why they would do that as a strategy stuff like that. So that's what I that's my approach to wrestling. I know he'll face. I know the basic premise of how a match might go, and I'm trying to fall use that knowledge, and I can't anymore. Yeah. I really think though, the where that falls apart is if you do that for hockey that works because hockey's a game. Yeah. Whereas if you go into wrestling, it's like stumbling into kingdom hearts to your like who's rocks. What happened the rot? We worded. Rocks. Has come from what happened to my good friend seora? What happened the story? And then of course, we have the Ronda Rousey, Sasha banks fate. I actually enjoyed this. I I love this match. I've really liked any match that I see Ronda Rousey. Sasha banks is also really good Barada Rousey is just on a different fucking planet because she's she has managed to do something that very few people do in that she took her dedication, and at lettuces of from a genuine sport, which is mixed martial arts in the USA and took that same dedication to basically putting on a hyper violence semi improvised play. Yeah. She's so strong much in the same way. Dwayne the rock Johnson turns a somewhat on remarkable football career into becoming very highly paid wrestler into becoming very highly paid actor. Yeah. Or Terry crews, a very lackluster football career and turned into being a comedic actor. Yeah. And so I think we're on the rousing she's got a ton of talent in the ring Herat any interacting is getting there. She's so much better. Like the the first wrestlemanias where she showed up. It was so bad. It says she's she's definitely. Getting better. But BA thing that I loved most about this match. John was the commentator who had a hate hard on for Sasha thinks that was so he was just leave. Like her attitude is really off putting and she smells weird. And I wish he would return my calls like there is such a subtext of this commentator the to the point where later in the night someone else mission saucer banks, and he was just like not having any or he brought it up later in the night. She this girl so much better than Sasha takes like. Will what what is happening with this commentator and Sasha banks. I that's the narrative island city. It's so strange that there's this kind of cross announcer narrative, which it's almost definitely part of their storytime. But when he's like Sasha, banks human pilot, garbage. What's the story in this corner? We've got scum of the earth. You know, just overall terrible person weighed in at who cares yet from hell offshoot bang. Literal. Hitler Sasha van Hitler, Sasha banks. And then Ronda Rousey who is a time travelling Terminator specifically designed to kill Sasha banks. I I'm so interested in knowing what that actual dynamic is. And then we get into the real meat of the night. The first meet and kind of the first thing that makes this roll rumble. Actually, we're talking about this is the first year that and this trend has been continuing. There was a full auto women's Royal rumble, which is phenomenal. Because this is just continuing the trend of the WW taking very seriously that women wrestlers are the most dynamic interesting thing in the sport right now. And they're continuing to give them more championships invents at I do like this for various reasons. Number one. Didn't they didn't like? Oh, it's women. They only get fifteen wrestlers the full thirty. Yeah. It was a full event. Same length pretty much as the as the men's row rumble, and what I really liked because there's a weird trend in men's wrestling that we noticed that the men are all getting beefier. They're all getting heavier. Yes. And thus they're not able to do some of the more acrobatic in what I think are more impressive stunts like with the physicality of this moving around the rig and throwing people and jumping around like the thing that anyone knows about wrestling. Like, Joe think from the roads and doing a really cool like flip land thing. Yeah. And the bigger the guy the less likely you're gonna see that not a women on the other hand. They're like, yeah. And they're fast in their skinny in their their trust in their physicality. And like you said, I think that's the getting to the point where it's like. Yeah. Okay. This is the direction to go in all the men are huge. But we've got the women to offset, and they could do all the really impressive Johnson stuff that the men candy more 'cause they wait three hundred pounds. I almost feel like you can't you can't be the WWE because whoever's in charge there is making two messages. They like why do people love women wrestling? They love it so much. Let's keep giving events. Anyway, back to the men's wrestling. Let's keep beefing. These dudes up whenever they get hurt. They need to come back fifty pounds heavier, and they just can't do anything. Yeah. They're too big to do stuff for long, like don't get me wrong or give me wrong. I think brought lesson of course. Yeah. He's a really big news really strong. He can't wrestle for long stretches of time because he gets tired. Yeah. During his match with Baylor. He looked like he was going to have a heart attack that there's a one of the main things that came out of that that match others of really good freeze frame where where his eyes he's doing the squeezing thin and his eyes are. Bulging out brought size or bulging out of his head for no reason. Yeah, they're bulging of us had because he's like plays. Let this be over to go home and sleep pulled off going to be able to find it right now. I probably don't even need to. But it's just a very funny picture. That's why Mr. listener are you doing this? I think they hired a mouthpiece to speak for Brock listener. Because if he started speaking he'd get tired, you would but no women's roll rumble one of my favorite things about the Royal rumble. Definitely on display here. They get to show. A lot of really great talent, particularly talent. From like an x t I think we both. Here's something that you might not know as far as wrestling terminology goes do know what pop and popping is that. No, I have no idea popping is the ability to come out of the gate during your intro. If you've got one and immediately get the crowd's attention. It's like how strong you sell your gimmick. The second you come out. So so the trumpets for John sina? Yeah. Hinge is being there though. Yeah. You can't see me his presence. Everyone loves that's what John sina so popular is because he pops like nobody's business because he sells his character. And you and I put everyone in the room, including my girlfriend, reacted very, positively. And immediately to the degree of pop that NICKY cross had I'll yeah. Nicky cross. She's hot. Yes. Favorite part of that entire that? Because up until then you had had a few female wrestlers a couple of them. Their gimmick was like there faster angry when it goes to NICKY cross, Nikki crosses someone who looks like body wise, totally normal clothing wise, even totally normal pull the camera pans to NICKY cross she was already wind Bill within a shirt around. Out her head of slapping the ground with it and screaming. The resumes on her face. And she looks positively fucking insane runs full force into the ring attacks people who have already been eliminated jumps on people's faces. That's and that's the the Brock listener is popping out gifts. It's amazing. It's awful. But NICKY, cross her entire gimmick. Is that she's insane. And she sells it so hard. Like, just the the is the, you know, crazy attitude, and then the best moment, she I think she eliminate somebody and celebration she takes off a second here and. She already had the one sure that was off for the cares. Even and the explodes out of a shirt to find a shirt underneath and just whips that NICKY cross. And this leads me into my bigger point about the Royal rumble and wrestling as a whole, I think that the Royal rumble in wrestling as the WW presented its main card events is bad annex t the developmental division. Where all the like new recipes, basically just people who grew up with wrestling and decide to make that their life so much better. Yeah. Annex t I genuinely think for all the like sleeping you did during the Royal rumble. I think you'd really enjoy watching an XT because it's like interesting the characters are great and multifaceted. And like there's room for people just to be bad characters. So you don't root for them? But people really pop you love them. Nikki cross came out of. St. fin Baylor came out of an XT. All that stuff is so good. That's a wrestling is really about wrestling's not about this shit wrestling's about x t I think with any creative endeavor the executives given the way of what makes the thing. Good. Yeah. And then at St. people who want to be wrestlers their die hard fans. They grew up with it. They know kind of the great state. They know the how physically demanding those and so they're trying to do the best. They can to to give the passion passion that. They love affair shot. You know? And so that's that's maybe why it's so good. But then like the naked to the big time that make it to the WWE and the end, then you gotta be up any you gotta stop doing those crazy flips. Yeah. Look at river stereo Rimas stereo enjoyed being the WW's first Tate first taste of Lucia libra, like high flying acrobatic. And then he got hurt had to gain weight had to gain more weight. Completely changed the way he presents himself his barely even a character anymore. Yeah. He was in the Royal rumble for a good a good amount of time. Not that you would. No, I don't think he eliminated. Anybody? I don't think he did much. He was in the ring for a long time. And really, that's what the w does to male wrestlers. It just turns them into muscle about hunky lie. Like, it strips them of all personality. Speaking of being stripped of all personality the match following those roll rebel. Of course, Daniel Bryan versus AJ styles. Which is to say somewhat interesting wrestler in dangle Brian who used to be way more interesting because you you don't have an appreciation for this because you didn't really follow Daniel Bryan's journey. He was basically just someone who is shit on constantly and was just a like a short not super muscle bound wrestler with a ton of heart. And then just because fans love the shit out of him. He stir getting more and more chances, and he would just like kill himself in the ring over and over and over again, and he stirred being recognized for it, his whole chant was people would yell. Yes. Yes. Yes. Just because the yes move. It was like a big positive thing for the underdog. Daniel Bryan's, great his like vegan, he'll character fine. AJ styles care for him. I liked a lot of what the hype up was for that match. The didn't show a lot. Like back story of hand might a costing fans for eating burger. And. Yeah, I mean, the the vegan he'll character. It's a gimmick. It's also given scouts very gimmicky gimmick. But it's also great because you didn't see this. There's a there was a not a monologue. But he kind of cuts promo and talking to Vince McMahon on AJ cells. I think it's Harare or some shit. I don't watch. We're just dunks on baby boomers, he's like baby boomers have ruined the economy. We're paying for your sins. Climate change is real I'm Daniel, Bryan. He's just saying real shit, which historically is a great formula to being a good villain in wrestling. As just say things that are true. Yeah. And things other demographic bowl like, yes. Very strange watch smackdown or not Mike the Royal rumble wrestle. Maybe like man, a great majority of the people in the Saudi voted for someone that I hate. Yeah. It's it's a very big disconnect. I did not particularly care for this for this match. I love Daniel, Bryan. The the weird where I started to fall asleep. The weird ending. I remember how ended it ended with like a big beard guy coming out and slamming. It's right. Some other guy. Yeah. Accosted strong Beardley strong dearly. The rough got knocked out. Yeah. Strong barely did did a move on AJ style. So that beard man Jones could win Daniel Bryan, one Daniel Boone following that of my most hated match of the night. This is the less new version and wolf are. Yeah. This is the mountain versus the kid from strangers. Yes. This is. I I it's hard to muster up care for. But listener, you know, especially when he's going up against somebody who probably won't make it in WWE. Well, fin Baylor. Yeah. Finn Baylor's the mid level fitted Baylor, read stuff, I read people's comments Finn going back the mid level. I don't know what that means. I don't know either. But Finn Baylor kind of came through annex t and he's he's done some amazing stuff. The fact that he got this chance amazing. Let me take a moment on the podcast to talk about how much I dislike rock lesser, not as a as a character wrestling. But just kind of as a presence Brock Leser had great success in UFC. And he agreed successive. You see not because he's particularly technical fighter. But just because he's the kind of corn fed mid west cow, man, that's impervious to pain was born in a crewcut and tears most people in half. And that's just. The way he is. He ate a lot of beef with a lot of steroids in it growing up, and he drank a lot of whole milk. So he's just a freak. But he did he put it a lot of like really solid performances in the NFC by being gassed really easily, but like touching someone with his pinky and then their pelvises, crumbled. Yeah. So that's the whole reason he succeeded and the trend is continued into professional wrestling where he continues to be totally uncharismatic and his only saving grace and his only claim to fame is that he's a big dude who could throw people around. It is a very serious danger. That Brock listener could seriously hurt people. I'm sure that he's a professional you. You don't get very far the WWE if you actually people up, but he's he's just a big uncharismatic, dude. His character has no personality. They end to hire someone to speak for him. His whole thing is he's just big. He's just the monsters the beast. Yeah. He's he's just the bee's beast characters dumb at least on the Andre the giant had personality, and you have him against Finn Baylor who came up through annexed team who works really hard who is one of the most like amazing technical wrestlers of Finn Baylor. Wrestled his ass off. I want to compliment fin Baylor because I felt like he had a little shot of bringing down Mr. Lessner. Yeah. Because he was like it was kind of walked like watching. I don't know Mike Tyson vs. Muhammad Ali you've got a really quick fast guy versus this big block it. Yeah. And the big fast guys got like the the fast guys gotta do a lot of quick little maneuvers allot of fast hits getting their get out. And then all all the big guys to do is like slap you across the face once in your out. It's almost like you had to like one small nimble live character with a spear that may or may not be poisoned stabbing multiple times. And then in the end, it's a real surprise you and made a comment to get me to watch the Royal rumble that hate wrestling is they're mostly they're big nerds. Now, all these wrestlers huge nerves. And I didn't believe you as like, you're. You're like, okay. Yeah. They're wrestling nerds. But they're actually nerd nerds to Finn Baylor his past. Let's say four or five wrestling outfits are all inspired inspired by marvel comics. Yeah, it's a four outfit MS punisher outfit in. I mean, he's got an outfit for maybe every flavor of superhero, you can think of I mean, you you look at the bar which was shameless and says are they did a dragon Bosie, fusion dance. Yeah. After their intro. You get what's her name Vega. Messing as Vega. Dressing like Vega from St. far. They're for real there'd granted they're mostly NS St. but they're for real. But no, the fin Baylor match props defend Baylor because he really made it look like he was beating the shit out of Brock listener, which for someone. That's as unathletic has Brock listener is very good. Another thing that that started to become a parent at this match was which may have been the. Second to last match that we watch was that the match would end. It's over the winner gets handed the belt, and then there's a little more. There's a little land. Yep. As people will say, but in the case of Lessner who would dominate the guy the guy tapped out in in a submission. And then he goes back to beat him up Sabur that doesn't it's like I can suspend my belief during the match because it seems like the ref has some symbol of control especially in the one on one matches. Yes. But when after the match is done, Mr. Lessner walks over to Finn Wolford picks them up in slams down one to two to three times. That's kind of like a why is he able to do that? Where is the referee? And also why is this? It's been four hours. Why I need the land. Yep. Here. Do I think I saw that. I think that Brock listener. Hit his signature move on fin Baylor. I think that's what happened my assumption. Number one. They they did it to sell the like merciless beast, angler, whatever I also feel as though it's possible. That Brock listener had a certain agreement that he'd be able to hit a certain number of moves during the match because they pay brought listener a trillion dollars to wrestle once a year us. So after the match was over he just made him tap out. And somehow communicate. Hey tap. Oh, 'cause I'm tired. So after Brock lesser hadn't opportunity to rest for a second. He was like, well, I guess I'd better hit these moves. They told me I had to hit by. I don't like it. Yeah. It's it was a bad match. I didn't like it. It's I don't like when people who work hard lose to people who only work once a year. Yeah. I know I agree. And then we had the men's roller rumble to finish it all out and the men's roller unbel- had one of my least favorite. Bristling things and doing complaining that's because I don't really care about wrestling that much, but I seen to Royal rumbles in my day. This was my second. That's minding and in the first one I noticed. Okay. You pointed this out when they get tired. They go to the ropes the hang onto the ropes some money goes over and shakes them off or that. They get relegated. You have to do some leveling. Yeah. To to make surely attention is where it needs to be on the people who are dissenting while other people who have been there much longer. They get to rest in gear up for maybe their next. Let's call it a scene. Yeah. They get to sit in the corner with their boots on each other's next going. And what I noticed in the women's role rumble is that they allow them. I wanna say they may be ten people in the ring at one time. And that was that kind of a press it makes it look really busy really full like a lot of action is going on really the resting. They didn't allow that for the guys. And so it stands out. Yeah. There might be four people in the ring or let's there's a mum where there's three people in the ring and two were hanging onto the net the net, but the ropes and the one big guy who just got in. Doesn't do anything. Yeah. He doesn't attack them. He turns around. Why is he walking away? He could feasibly eliminate both of them right now. Really the rule rubble is the most possible way to tell the story because all semblance of lake all semblance of fragmenting is out the window for a Royal rumble. Because people have to stay in for a certain amount of time for whatever the bit is. Yeah. So and sometimes people will get accidentally eliminate a Royal rebel. But for the most part, it's really infantile storytelling. There was a moment. When the guy started it, you know, his name with Qatar alliance alliance allies gets eliminated by Andrei. Who andrea? Sure Dardai, wait undrawn Andrada. There we go so allies gets eliminated on draw day who then looks straight into the camera and shrugs and people are are thinking alliance wasn't supposed to be eliminated right there. Yeah. And if this happened in so when he shrugged his like, that's what happening. That's what happened. I guess. No. You can feel the energy when someone gets eliminated accidentally because people like pause, wait. I guess we'll keep wrestling. Yeah. I guess we'll wing it. But no, the men's roll rebels. Biggest things I wanna talk about is huge amounts of like, non w not like non main stage talent Peter done came out new days. There is always which speaking of huge day gonna get their time in the sign new day can't win they need. No win be a bigger factor. Yeah. Day, by the way, for anyone listening to this who does not watch wrestling, which you really turned this off a long time ago. Let's soon as we were gonna talk about the Royal rumble at the top. We should've said we're gonna talk about it for the whole goddamn episode. What would we talked about income inequality or politics for people turned off wave before you're really it's a lot? Like, it's almost as though we were Dana Carvey show like opened with Bill Clinton nursing eight puppies of all of our listeners. Just don't shit is jumped ship immediately really should have. Scheduled this not after the home improvement one hundred percent. Correct shame. But no, I think that the the number one thing I came away with came away from the Royal rebel with is. This is I'm going to sell you get on watching annex t d remember, no way Jose. Yes. The guy who came up with the Congo comes out with it was so great. They hype it hyphen above he comes out with this whole align their dance all the way down it gets to the ring. He gets in the ring Amelie thrown really throw out gets up dust dances again. And it's the calmly shrugs and leads the Congo line back out. Yeah. The watching the next episode because like I said, I have WW network again. And this was from like a year ago. The first match I saw was one with no way Jose that kind of shit can just exist. It an exte-. Knowing Jose's whole character is I loved a. Sorry. I'm kinda fat. I've got a lot of hair, and I've got a call to live his life is much shorter this episode, and I'm very interested to see where his arc takes on her his recruited more and more people to his Congo on. Yeah. Like inex- t you could be like my gimmick is I've got a stick comedy. Rick the stint Rick the stick on here with Moscow. Stick names, Rick. We got the whole character. It's just superior and innocent. It's great of. But no, the real the amazing thing to me of Benz wrestling is that they've just so little stamina and staying power, and they just can't have that many people in the ring at one time they have to manage it so differently. So you have people like ginger Mahal who came out junior Mahal went from a somewhat. Okay, wrestler to training his ass off and getting ludicrously like disgustingly ripped and muscular. He's. Eliminated. Two minutes. I guess it's to sell the angle that like anyone could be a limited. It's just they didn't want that person in the ring for much longer that was it. Honestly, it's true. And the people that they do want to be around at the end of the match guess what they do to then. The knock them out and they're they're asleep. There's a moment where there was two guys left in the ring you and I both sit. Well, there's a moment before this. Yes, there's a moment before this were Seth Rollins gets thrown through a table. Yes. Any gets knocked down. I turn to you. And I said so he's going to win 'cause he was just knocked out. And I hated that. Because I knew in the moment that you are right. And so then we fast forward. Good thirty to forty minutes. Good attorney good eternity forward. And there's two guys left in the ring. And the announcers act light Elwood's down to this forgetting that set Rawlins's passed out at their feet. Yup. And front of them. And then he goes back and wins the men's Rover unbel-, I was not a fan. However, one really at it's a native. I it was a I in the the number thirty enter our truth is knocked out outside the rain by nyah, Jax, a female wrestler. And this is the first instance of sanctioned intersex wrestling. She's not the first woman Tabatabai a men's rumble before. Wait who she was a commentator. I believe steering the women's won. Her name was Beth Phoenix. Really? She would she made an entry. She is the Kosonen Jax. I I went to squared circle this morning. I looked up things. Yeah. Ninja apparently was maybe the third reeling too. Good evening as Cording to the squared circle. I don't know. And I can't find in these threads because apparently. Apparently, this is the shit's really popular this the suburb that moves really quickly again bind anything I could. I found this morning. I should've saved this shit. But However, I think that Niger might be the first instance of of intersex wrestling where she gets super kicked in the face and then hit with an archaic out of nowhere. Yeah. No. Like, the fact that I really appreciated the fact that once she was there because I also had like, oh, man. This must be history in the making. And I found a later wasn't. That's a shame. But then, but then yet she they know pulled punches. No like, oh, you're a woman. I'm not gonna hit you fully like, yeah. Super kick to the stomach. Yeah. And then everyone teaming up against you just to get you out because you you played yourself up as a pretty big he'll by taking out our truth during the middle of the rap song. Yes. I mean, number one greatest he'll move of. But I think that that's. I think it's interesting that there's a future. I think for like, I don't know. It seems weird to say intersects, but he's told me in the past that Ronda Rousey, run a rosy has fought triple h in. I believe in unsanctioned was unsanctioned. I think it was just like entering action where they were like they decided like, hey, we're gonna have a business dealing. Nothing could happen here. And he's like join us, and she's like, no, I'm going to dead lift you and fight you. But the Niger thing was cool. I don't know the Royal rumble was exhausting. There was a moment that some true emotionally through. And Seth Rollins wins the Royal rumble and he dismounts holy shit. That is that's not scripted like, yeah, you can't curse, but you can mouth you can mouth. I ended. The very next day comes out news news breaking news. Remember, you're your good, buddy? Dean Ambrose DNA embrose the guy who transformed from a normal person to a very muscular shitty looking person. He's a he's not renewing his contract. Really? He's leaving. That's after wrestlemainia. That's crazy to me. Yeah. Well, I guess he'll where do you go Japan? Eight the w you go to Japan, you new Japan pro wrestling for the most part, you don't go to any w really. Here's the crazy thing of wrestling. Maybe things have changed. But this is how I understood it to be if you have a career in like, the WWE, and then you decide like take a break, you go to Japan and Japan is like heaven for wrestlers because they treat you really fair. Really do a lot of really fun matches the Japanese love you you just get to like live on amazing, mega Taurus life. Where you do. This thing that the only thing, you know, how to do you get to eat delicious steaks, drink socking, go home. That's interesting. There's a bar kind of every wrestler goes to all really, it's. Yeah, they sell steak there's there's a similar thing in soccer ago Japan. Nah. When you when you're wrapping up your time in the English Premiership league, which is one of the more premier leagues. At least bring speakers when you retire from that you go play in Major League Soccer in the Americas. 'cause you get you get paid really good 'cause you're star. And then you don't have to work that. Because it's yeah, you're just like fighting children. Yeah. David beckham. I think played for the galaxy for like five years all after retiring from soccer, and he just destroyed them. You know, it's in wrestling. You've got you go to Japan in football slash soccer. You go to America. And then in football, you just go to heaven and football. Unfortunately, you get that horrible personality disorder gets them. So many blows CT C T go T heaven, and you end up sadly, like driving your car off the road this. No, there's no place for football players after football. Is there? They can go play rugby if they really want to can't okay. Can't they go play like professional football like Switzerland somewhere somewhere where they can just have a really easy time. Now, I don't think so damn I there's no it doesn't get easier for football players if if anything they can retire to their hopefully millions upon millions of dollars. Yeah. They can retire to their fifteen hundred Papa John's franchises. Fuck you eight manning. But I feel like the Royal rumble. Now is at men they really thought we'd have more insightful going into the rumble watching it going into the rubble. I thought there'd be a lot more like interesting societal takeaways from it. But I think that this was and I say this not lately kind of the least politically interesting wrestling event I've seen in quite some time or even philosophically I think Gulliver insights for more about the state of where wrestling is going as an industry at least. A WWE, which is I guess the most prolific version of wrestling of rather than society. But I think it is nice to see I say nice. It's a weird since the weird sentiment. I think it's interesting to see a woman being treated, basically like a man as an equal. Yeah. In the ring it no pulled punches. No gimmicks about it straight up wrestling. And she 'cause it's a two way street like she has the be as physically capable at took to be kit. As like, you know to be eliminated. You have to be as physically capable as the guy eliminating you. So I mean, there's that. But also just like, you know. Well, there was no more like I'm not gonna hit a girl. Yeah. That was never like politicized. They never made that statement. And I mean at the end of the day. There's no reason why women have been shouldn't be wrestling together. Because they're all doing moves. The aren't designed to her view. Exact they're all not they're all actively trying not to hurt each other. Yeah. Unless you're Shane McMahon. And then you're you're one thing is you wanna hurt yourself? And that's fine. Because that's yourself. That's you know, Shane McMahon. Stands trembling across a top the turnbuckle. He says loudly enough for the for the zip-line. Mike's to pick up his I would never a woman, and then he he shooting star splashes himself into a pile on. Yeah, away from there wasn't even a woman in the ring. No one knows. Yes. I will never hit a woman. Themself a couple. I'm a man. And then this proves that because I would member of the new jumps in such a way that is body turns one hundred eighty degrees aliens directly on his head because that's just what Shane McMahon does. Yeah. Shane McMahon is is a factory for his own misery. Well, you know, what this? Wrestling is like farming. And that nobody sees you do it. What what everyone sees you do it when you far knowing you wrestle like every everyone's watching everybody's watching. You know, see what you will do wrestling a lot like farming. It's all about the be all about them beats as an beaten up on the Weakland's beaten up on because it's wrestling a lot of strikes these days, you should watch annex t last tricks. There's a lot of strikes in there's a lot of for real wrestling. One Shanley looking. Shenley from three fighter Vega. No. I don't know. Her name. I think Zaia. She was one of the Asian roles. Yes. She had a lot of good kicks. That's my call their shut league. Not the fact that she was dressed in traditional Chinese don't art specifically about her case. They looked good is sold them. And they look real good kids. She had the most realistic strikes of anyone everyone else was kinda like why are you doing strikes? Those little dude alarms limit week noodle arms dealer shakes there should be more kyri sane. They're more people need to be dream pirates. More dream pirates. Also, more gimmicks. More themes. You can't just be a name. You can't be dean Umbro Sardinian, Bruce Ambrose that kind of thing. He was the lunatic. Fringe for awhile. I think numbers had kind of. But you know, you can't be you can't be shameless. What shame MRs deal L. Yeah. He comes out on the kilt guesses. You can't be an AJ styles. Yeah. AJ siles. What's your gloves? Okay. So she thirty wrestlers in the ring over the course of a night, but from certain elements, you can't tell them apart because their gimmicks are so weak. They're themes are so not there. You know, who your ability to pop is none exist. You know, you can really notice someone is just like a God damn dream pirate. Do comes out with a telescope that is and tries to high five the other wrestlers what she comes the mazing. I would also recommend to anyone in the audience listening. If you have turn the episode off already if you're the kind of person who likes to enjoy media in any altered state of being watching wrestling will doing so is a lot like watching anime, it's very similar very similar like parts of your brain get activated. So I just found NIA Jax history last night at the Royal rumble on top of being the four Forman w history to enter the men's Royal rumble match. She also became the first person w. W E history to compete in two separate rumble matches on the same night. It was only the second time WWE has had to rumbles in one night. But from here until the end of time she was the first one to enter to on the same night. So congrats to her is impose well, that's the history. Yeah. The pantley Fomin. That's all I have to say about gang. Okay. I didn't know if like you had like a some time late at stigler. Okay. And I guess that concludes that some of you are home or they can men's that a waste of an episode. Let me tell you. If you think it's a waste of your time. We certainly spent five hours watching it. So I'd say the grand total of the Royal rebel. Maybe two hours of inter taint out of. Yeah. I think I enjoyed the peanut chips and the comments the most stuff Oreos which cost one hundred ten calories per Oreo. That's only two Oreos worth. Honestly, Daij injury oil is secretly my. Jan it really sounds like we have a very bad spread for our guests. And that is true. Well, see you said guests gas. I was one guest. I understand. I wouldn't go all out for one person. I barely barely offer. You water every week. I'm really glad that only you showed up. So I wasn't responsible for the disappointment of others. I'm okay. With the disappointment of you. I provide you disappointment every week. Yeah. Well, every other week when I ended the podcast too. Hey, we got something to look forward to next week Jim to what? No. So next week. I don't know if you know this. Oh shit this weekend happening this weekend? Another big. I guess. Yeah. Is it halftime heat on exterior? No, wait. Can I guess? Yeah. Is it the lead up to wargame? Wait, can I guess? Yeah. Is the puppy bowl? No. I talk, of course, about the only metric worth measuring our entire society by the commercials that play Jerry the soup. What the superb alal- during the what the big game? There we go the big game. I can't say that's why we can't say we can't say that word. Yeah. If we save the name of the sporting event that we're all looking forward to know what it is then we will be summarily hanged. So I don't know about you. But I'm going to be making an effort to watch those big game commercials. Because honestly, they they they're good indicator where we add is society. Yeah, they're going to be the things that people deigned to spend sixty million dollars onto play during the large event. And so I'm gonna be watching the event live, even though I hate both teams to see them commercials to see them trailers for movies and also to see the SpongeBob squarepants themed aft- I'm show brought to you by maroon five hate everything about this event. I'm. I'm really looking forward to to seeing the various like six or seven themed and connected truck ads that are going to happen during the big wet ballgame. My predictions for the big wet ballgame commercials is that we're going to see a lot of quote woke companies with like messages because if the Gillette ad recently is any sort of indicator work companies linked the nation of that. It's gonna be like look how much we care about these social activists things that we think you care about. And so we threw sixty million dollars making you all think that we care about black lives matters. Really all we care about is making money. Yeah. It's it's going to be a manifestation of the true healthcare that we live in right now once again showing that capitalist entities and irregular people do not exist on the same spectrum. Jill literally made that to make money. And does it was it was it was a calculated, but to make money Gillette has no genuine interest in men being better society changing. And I think you read I think we're going to see a lot of advertisements where people will make milk toasts kind of like centrists statements about how people could just in general do better or what's wrong with society. Not to say that these things aren't wrong with society, but they're going to specifically be engineered only to make money. Yep. It's like Wendy's tweeting book and black lives matter of and then emoji. Wendy's wouldn't do that window B sassy about other competitors? Burgers, dumb Carl's junior would be like feed posts. 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EP 112 - RISKY COMEDY with Cram Dollopson (Chad Damiani)
"Shutout i wrote it and now coming to the stage on this open mic. We have but kiss dude far. Shut up by lovett. This is jacob hale and this is shut up i love it obviously and i'm here with the incredible. Sasha filer and shut up. I love is a podcast when we invite a very special guest to discuss something on their rated under appreciated misunderstood hate it in some circles despised all kinds of stuff like we bring it all to us. This is the safe space to do this joining us. Today he needs. It requires no introduction. His name is crammed dollops and welcome. Cram welcome you to they. Notice brought this because of the topic a little fun police badge so you know that will make sense later to those listening. Those want to describe that. Joe this race yes sir on the camera. He's got what looks like to be. Actually a someone's real bad police badger term done. I don't know if you have a history and law enforcement but then those masking tape over it with written fun. Yeah and i thought that would be a fun way to kind of launch into a what. I'm here to talk about shoes risky comedy. It's a good platform. Podcasts are known for their risky comedy. tom dillon tim dillon. Or whoever is doing some risky combinations. Podcast bill burr. I think this is the great a great place to tread those waters. And i am my own life. I'm a super fan of risky comedy. But i also understand that the world has changed in. Gosh i'll let you guys. You know what. I'm so used to kind of running the show as an entrepreneur. I am going to send it back over to you so that i don't try to steamroll this whole thing. I'm in yeah. I'm interested to know it. Risky comedy means to you to given the fact that i think there was always risky comedy. It's just what was risky has changed over the years. You know what is completely normal. Nowadays was perhaps risky comedy forty years ago one hundred percent and i think a lot of it and this will make sense in the bigger picture as we move forward but a lot of it to me is risky comedy. It plays into The theory of the benign violation theory of comedy Which i dunno if you tour aware of this benign violation theory of comedy no not not not scholars per se. Yeah well i have become one. I was not a comedy scholar. I am one now so when you're talking about risky comedy there's a theory out there that four anything to even be funny. There must be a benign violation. Which means that the audience must feel a little bit at risk however they cannot feel imperil. It has to be benign so you are challenging the audience but they do not feel like you wish them harm and if you can walk that fine line then you have an edgy. Act and if you Undersell been some hunching. Come off as a little toothless and if you overdo it you come off as selfish and not caring about the needs of the people. You're performing for So that is kind of a. I've used this theory as the centerpiece of my business. I don't know if i should talk about what i do professional. If that's related. I think absolutely yes. Please tell us about your business Business but to tell you about my business. I have to tell you a story please. Of the day that changed my life and to tell that story you need to know a little bit about crammed doubts Growing up. I wouldn't call myself a class clown because i think people thought my comedy was smarter than that but i was always a the funny person in middle school high school my fraternity of the various businesses. That i started. I would always really just chop it up. That was kind of my reputation and u2 as professional comics and writers. You know there are many people like me who deep down feel like if they were on the stage that they would obviously excel based on their life experience. Oh i it's it's a very common type. Should i say not to put you in any type crime because you stand outside type. I'm sure but yes. There's definitely a type of person who thinks i have a book and me if you only put me on stage. I'm going to seal the show so i just right right away. I would like to ask assoc- you are in the middle school middle school in during the class. You make a joke. do people laugh. Do you get response or is it all kind of In your head well at such an interesting question on in my recollection Yes there were laughs but especially in elementary and middle school. I always felt like people responded like that person. Made me think you know. Like good risky edgy. Comedy like sometimes there would be a vocal response but almost always i could see the gear shifting and my classmates like this person is taking the hard line. Here you know the the they're taking risks and not for me that has always been more satisfying. I love that and is there. Is there an example. I know it's hard to bring you know. Remember something so long ago but yeah there must be something if this was so formative. I'm sure there was like one one joke i can. I will tell you what i feel like was my preeminent moment in comedy as a as a child which was i was a freshman in high school There was a big the when everyone comes into the auditorium like the entire school had been brought in. I was in a small catholic school and we had found out that day that a favored priest of ours that taught physics and some of the other sciences. He was retiring early because he was dealing with them. Some some i guess now will be called girds gastrointestinal issues Gosh i thought it was going. Well again he was there at the time and it was sort of it was it was kind of again a small school and father. Martini was his name. He went on a martini and was sort of saying goodbye. A beloved priest in school and credibly awkward moment where he had a little bit of gas in his throat like not he didn't belches much as that thing that happens when So like it just makes a sound but it doesn't escape. Is that what you're describing exactly. What i'm saying is like a like a little thing like that and you know. Obviously this is incredibly tense moment and this man who dedicated his life to education is finding that he has to find something new to do so like dangerous moment. And i from about ten rows back Just yell out a the spice to meet bow. So a big reaction right and did you have like a. That's that's fun for kids. You have an example of like the one of the jokes. He said that maybe made the kids think. Oh so you're thinking. One of the thinkers. Yeah that's on an example out you. You're killing it just so you know. I'm not sure because it's been so long as you guys can see. I'm sixty four years old and if it's an unfair question to bring like half dog. Oh i don't know if that's a spicy meatball was a thing yet When i was a freshman in do you understand. Like i'm not saying anyone stole it for me that i didn't steal it from anybody else. Do you know what i was. Yeah i had a friend one time. Who thought he created the expression. Elvis left the building. He had strong feelings about. That's really the question. I'd ask that person is maybe he said when elvis was six years old you know like how do we know. I'm saying there's a lot of this now. That comedy is my business which it never was before six months ago. I also see a lot of this taking ownership. You know like to your point joe. There've been a number of times in my life. Where i'm pretty sure i am. I created something that many years later became sort of a part of zeitgeist like like what. Okay perfect example iphone. I was at an italian restaurant. I'm italian by the way that's why these stories are like this and we were out. It's sort of a tragic now. They think about it too. Tragic story. marie elena who was a neighbor of ours Her husband had just died in a mining accident. I just noticed you flinch there. Yeah it sends member sometimes the things that the moments that move you make you get died in a mining accident. We had taken her to dinner after the funeral to a place called fellini's and very tense and she was sort of she was not from up. She was from google italy so she didn't speak very good english and she was a trying to kind of express her feelings but it really wasn't a where she was from as a person from the old country and thankfully they started delivering our meals. You know like it was really good break because of super tents and i ordered the veal picot. I remember this. Because i thought it had exotic name and when it came very little like it was almost all peppers tomatoes and again in this moment. Were off feeling very tense. I just went is the lille and if you know there was a famous thing that happened in a wendy's commercial almost fifteen years later. which was. Where's the beef. you know the clara heller. Actress clara pallor denies the. But well before that i had said is the veal. So you can see. I mean both our needs both are coutts baby. Calf one's a full grown cat is both it is kinda lowest common denominator. Not i mean you're a kid when he said it. That doesn't seem like a thinker to me. But i want to move on from these examples you looking for one of these thinkers well because if you have one handy certainly but i do want to. That was when you. When you were joe. Joe and i appreciate you holding me accountable. Because that's what i do with my employees. I'm like if i make a business. Yes because this business save. Mike will blow your mind when you hear how we are revolution. It's comedy but i do want to deliver joe this story sixth grade thomas richards elementary school clothing drive. Okay i should mention this clothing. Drive was for a neighborhood near our school that was incredibly impoverished end. There had just been a fire so there was traffic a sad situation. This is where risky comedy often comes in. When is this the time to make this joke. Is this the thinker nell. My answer is already know for. The story was view. Data actually thought. Yeah the deville you would make a joke. Maybe about her husband or or something like that but not as in a bad way. Right in the oddest trying to release ten nine benignly. Continue on with this nine violation. It's it's little too much for the time so we were asked to bring in close for for many children who had lost their home. Some of them had lost siblings and parents in this. This was a terrible fire and We all put our close up there and then Mr sharp was going through the items when he pulls out the item i brought which was jockstrap which women jockstrap i had worn up. Playing soccer. remind you what's jack strapped for foreigner like myself. It's keeps the cup on your jody. Wynn explain yes sir. You wear a hard cup to protect your penis and balls. The jockstrap is like a partial underwear. Just meant to clamp the cup to secure but not acting as a full underwear so Your rear end is often completely exposed like a lingerie so so much to learn Also i do feel like you move better. A little bit this in in a in a jockstrap or athletic supporter. sometimes it's called Mr sharp was very upset. You know obviously we're collecting clothing for these various people who are in great distress. But you know sometimes. That's the moment we need that laugh. you know. And he held it up in the air said who's is this and i stood up and he goes. What's the meaning of this cram. And i said pardon me mr short my cup runneth over. So that's a finger. You know i actually. I'd like that. And i think even just bringing the cup to the clothing drive or not the cup but the The jockstrap is subversive. And funny on its own. It's what i've been doing my whole life. you know. I like again professionals. Youtube have writing credits you to have published. I am not a comedian. But it is what i've been doing. My whole life is sort of walking this line. And i know now things are different and take you to a story and i know i'm sort of in a stray time. This business which is only six months old and is doing wildly will best business. I've ever started cy. I want to hear about this business. Yeah i think we gotta get to the business you know. I think you'll get to your story. They will have to tell your story or do you want to get to the business because we definitely down perfectly into the ba- here but trust me joe. The story of it's a game changer. I was running a business where it was sort of a it was a it dealt with industrial medical waste. I won't go into any more than that but it was a fun spin on. I won't bore you with the details. But i hope we won't just read medical waste but we have fun spin on how to spend. I mean what possibly could be again already running long. Let me say that. In the industrial medical waste industry people pretty much had one way of doing things and we found a fun way so that was kind of the business and it was doing pretty well hoses safe than you wait. The new safe. The way was safe. It was fun businesses. It seems like that expensive safe. Fun isn't really valuable because safety when it comes to medical waste is like the most important part i would say fun for like the stage moments. You know but it's just something that we can't. It's already interesting takes. I'll say this. Can things be unsafe. Maybe like i'm not always sure. But like i think sometimes you gotta chase the fun and find the safe as opposed to being now. Things are so safe how to make them. That's a much he'll there is something to it. You're not wrong. But i think in application of medical waste is maybe messed up but you said the the business was successful. Doing i'm and like i said i've been heading over the fence comedy wise as just a personal like in my personal. My employees laughed at everything. I did and we were out celebrating recently. Gotten a contract. And we're celebrating an open. Mic happened to be going on at this happy hour. Okay and they were like cram you gotta get up. Cram your friends versus. We've ever met co workers coworkers. Praise right right i. Two of them actually starts saying cram cram like not in unison. But if you thought about like they both said it multiple times they tried to time to differently it would have been like a chance so they just were calling for you but yeah i felt i'm going to put my like why not even funny my whole life. I've been making people think. And i'll be honest with you. All i went up there. Grab that microphone with all the confidence that cram has had his whole life and i ate a big pile of shit of their right. Not only did. I not get laughs. I and and i say this having learned. I offended people i had a. I was a little reckless. I didn't understand. i'm a sixty four year old man. The world was changing. Will you should see four years old behind already win. Was this six months ago. sin okay. So this was the impetus started. I mean what you're saying is the typical i open mic situation for a lot of people not not usually for me usually i'm hitting diggers but never had an open mic late with dick employee's it when it's your employees or things like that it's or you know people in line at subway people line you know so it is different when you're supposed to deliver which i'm sure you've learned over the last six months when people expect you to deliver the professional level comedy even at an open mind and again i i gue- i have beginner's mind for life so you have to actually nice. I like to see the world with the eyes of a child or bring the wonder sense of wonder into everything i do if i can. I can try to look at the world. Sasha through the eyes of that clever funny always front of the line child. I grew that saw very annoying person. I'm not gonna lie. I was one of those people in class. Who always had to answer before. Everybody and i was so fucking annoying to everybody and i knew it and hurt me. I was the one shaking my hand in the face of a teacher. And i still think of that person. That's like jesus christ because she hold back just for a moment but it sounds like you took experience into like the front forefront again an adults who has started many businesses and had a lot of success in my life. I left that mike. And i had never felt failure like before. Never felt the sting of rejection like that in my life and i closed down my industrial medical waste business. The one that had the fund way of doing things shuttered it. The next day sold the assets and i was like how do i create an environment for people to try to be funny Try to take risks but actually risk nothing and find their way to sort of this edginess in a completely safe environment. Welcome to save mike and and just. I'm so excited to get into set. Mike but what. Can i just ask what your employees thought of that like the navigation. We were celebrated the previous night. We had gone out to a big crab. Boil like we were having a good time. I paid for it so open. Mic crash showed up. I was personally uttering this building. I mean some of them have families. It was definitely like it. It put them in a you know. Obviously i gave them two weeks. Joe like i i have been. I'm an entrepreneur. These are people who are loyal to me. But but i knew there was a bigger picture either of us artists ever there. Where you're like. I am serving a greater good and maybe a couple people need to have to struggle. So that i can serve this good of making a safe place specifically for white this gender comics to test material rights. Okay so safe. Space is the so. I'm getting a sense of the business. Now it is creating a safe space to practice or perform comedy but it's specifically for white sis gender men joe it started as it would be for everyone but those are my I have about a dozen anonymous clients some very famous and they all i realized at one point were straight middle age white six gender men so i was like i guess that's my business is giving these people specifically voice of okay so it's not purposefully segregated. You just found that your audience your customer base was that so you're leaning. I would've taken money from anyone. I would do is me aggressively pursued marginalized groups to the point of like getting some pretty angry emails. And i was like i guess these are the people who want this service you know. That's what a businessman dos before diving into the safe. mike specifics. I am so curious about that experience that shattered you. I mike experience open mic experience. What specifically got upset. The you people didn't laugh like what was the reaction. And who did you blame for it. Like what are your takeaways from it. Well i mean. I have to answer that twofold. The night it happened i blame. That audience blamed the alcohol. I don't want to quote shaggy. But i was like it wasn't me it's newt. I don't think i'm just quoting right. But it's like i'm like wasn't me. It wasn't me is it. Yeah okay. So i'm doing it right then. Joe just not not it and it was you. It's just it wasn't me so okay. But i needed to be both so. He doesn't check it as an accused. Anyone doing it now and it doesn't need to fit for me personally. It doesn't need to be the shaggy quote Yeah it's just one of those moments of having. Joe i've been using that shaggy quote when i explain the business and in i'm realizing it was a fiction because i thought i thought accuses someone else to get the heat off him so he goes wasn't me it was eric. So that doesn't have you heard the song it's been many years and I got listen to it again. I just felt like a new the song. So i i know that sometimes no eric in the saw no no no accusations just did you bring up eric lot. Cram no that's just. The name snuck in my head that he blamed check. It's all right you can. you can see. It's embarrassing i. I understand that it's embarrassing to pitches you've done. I don't want you guys see me cry. But like just thought that was an eric there. There was an arrogant song. You know this is his safe-space Be strong enough to be vulnerable. That's what i'm earned. The titans of business started many businesses successful The the point being is i. I blame that audience and it was a diverse room and it took me some conversations with some good friends and some time to be like you know what actually you need to catch like. How do we create a safe. Mike where we can speak to people outside of your experience tests some comedy material and get their immediate feedback. So it's not that they're just being assaulted with these jokes and in fact they are part of the process of how we can be edgy. And be risky and comedy. You know so my answer now is it was cramps fault. That things went. And that's that's bull that's it. Yeah that is a that is exactly how you should go into the comedy business figuring it out and i i think we have a good sense of what's the businesses goal is but i have no idea what it looks likely doing. Can you give us just in example of what i don't know it sounds like a service says like a session. You're doing people. I'll tell you what happens. In fact i have a surprise for you too because you're going to experience it not just hear about it button you know considering. I did a little research on both of you. And i know joe you are lat next which is great. This is what we look for people with a slightly different view. Sasha you. You were born in russia you have. Your woman of these are all things. I researched so already to people. I'm dealing with who can bring a perspective. I don't have and what we're going to do right now. Is we're going to be part of what i call a jokes. Joe like he called the joke. Oh is it a c. k. u. s. or k. You i've never called it not even for your sales pitch literature. Anything i mean i know. I have a website. Because i hired acts that but i guess i could look it up real quick. I'm gonna guess it's j. o. k. Us because i think it would not make it was a c That's win it's not by the way it is tomorrow because That's how frameworks so we're gonna do a joke. Screw around and couple of the rules you've been brought so let's pretend it's really happening. You had gone to the sherman oaks galleria. Okay you may to see a movie or buy a new pair of shoes or maybe enjoy cheesecake. Factory and one of my associates has come up and said. Would you like to make fifty dollars for an hour and these people who are chosen. We try to very much look for. Are we checking our boxes. Are we covering a diverse inclusive group of people. So now you've been brought into a room. There's a coffee and a danish there. It's very comfortable right now. I run all joke. Is group so i come in. I introduced myself. And i'm like hey we're going to examine some comedy material from. I also say. I don't want your names because this isn't about assigning blame or success this we are a so what i do throughout the process. Is i assign them codenames and sometimes they change. Because i wanna make sure when we look at the information at the end. We're not assigning one opinion to one person so we have this rotation okay hogan's And that we have an open dialogue. We have open dialogue about the material which is not mine is the material of million dollar high. End high profile white middle aged Gender comics who against so. That's how you make your money because obviously you might have anywhere between our imagining five fifteen people. That's fifty bucks a pop. It's costing you a lot but you're getting some good amount of money from these. Imc's doing very well. joe. I don't know if you can see. This is a two bedroom apartment in studio city with one and a half baths. I can't see. I can't see all of that information. One and a half bath studio city right near the la river. Just curious how does the one and a half work is just a toilet and a sink. Yeah no shower. Yes it could be just shower. Same i think or it could be a shower and toilet but one of those three can't be involved for to be a half bathroom my understanding succession my eyes success in. You're doing well These clients have about ten of them to these are. Their jokes is at one clients jokes or is it several like to mix them all up. 'cause like we have a very We have a conversation. So i'm i have prepared a joke ass- group for you to To be a part of and right now we're just going to start I would love it if like let's say you already got us in the mall and now we're entering the room. Let's let's do a little bit of role play. Let's say we are entering whatever conference room. Take it away cran. Everyone have a seat a so glad. You could be part of. Tonight's joke as group will only be here for an hour right now. I'm gonna ask you to get comfortable and get honest. There are no wrong answers. You also please do not exchange names. I will assigned code names so that you can speak with complete anonymity and have your point of view represented without feeling implicate. That's not too i mean. Yeah i i it sounds to me and i'm just saying as the host of this podcast but also as the person in the joke is group. I feels very professional very professional. This is fifty bucks for an hour or two. I'm happy i'm a young man. We're going to go Fleetwood you are fleetwood to start a will. I'm using a rotator but your fleetwood and miss You are a grand manja. So fleetwood grandma. That's just seeing those your code names. I want you to feel very comfortable. I'm gonna start by. I'm gonna ask you to usually say raise your hand. But i've realized we're gonna podcast so you might go check if these apply you. I just want you to say check any one or all can apply okay Nothing offends me. I know it's a joke. Chester interesting all right. You can make any joke you want. But i'm going to let you know if i don't like it. Yeah i mean there's some gray areas with these to be honest No right answers fleetwood. 'cause i You can make any jokes you want. I might not go out of my way to tell you. I don't like it right. I might not. I don't. I don't want to personally here joke. That is so bad. it's gonna make uncomfortable. I'm not taking any of his personal. Why would i don't believe in cancelling. But i do believe in consequences. Check shaft right fleetwood. That's good that's good actually fleetwood. Let's i have canceled. Jeffrey epstein and harvey weinstein. So you think so okay great. And then. lastly. I lived to see people with daring ideas fail. I guess that would have to be a check for both of you because the last one one of these have to apply. Well that's a weird question. People with darrin ideas fail. You can say check please but daring. What does that mean. Does that include uncomfortable jokes. That live for it like to see them fail. I don't know if i live dec- anybody fail. I lived See people make daring choices. But i don't know if. I i really appreciate you taking these questions seriously. Okay i got two rotator so Fleetwood you are now snooze alarm and grandma gay you are now mud slump so this you later right because like 'cause we obviously know i'm fleetwood like she later for when the Data is being examined by switching. The names we're not saying like oh snooze alarm was banned. Yeah but then you just delete the names from all comments. That technology exists. I mean that sounds like future technology. This rotating nicknamed thing seems much easier. I enjoyed they rotate. Yeah i don't. I don't mean i'm just. It's just no tech expert for sure. Let's do i think it's a logic thing we're gonna get to some actual jokes. Let's do one more round. Because i feel like we really haven't nailed who you are and just say check if it applies iva confident adult who is not afraid to have. My ideas challenged check. I like that. When i go to a comedy club. It's time to put on my big person pants. Hit me with your best shot. I'm not sure what that means. All say check out. I'm gonna say check the big pants little little like whoa what are you. What are you mean by that. But okay are those though which i think. I'm i think. I'm certainly getting a feel for you to you and i like what i'm getting. I like what i'm getting. I like my comedy feckless and gentle checklist like to week in. No no no so you would not check that. Would what kind of what kind of person in an open mic watching it over. Mike would check that box. Not someone watching you and wait so these things. Let's say i have three checks and you now. Three non checks that gets applied to me as the reviewer but doesn't that mess with the results like shouldn't you not wanna know anything about us. If our results are then going to be joe we can spend two hours on his algorithm. Because these seem like good questions. I could spend conservatively two hours explaining this algorithm but to your point yes not only do. We want you to be completely random. We want to identify you specifically as the kind of comedy person you are and then we split the difference. I don't know if that helps. I'm it doesn't it doesn't but almost i would also like to say that i'm su- feeling this questions. We have a little bit of judgment behind them like. They're trying to put me in the box like either like i'm with these man assists white man middle-aged man who are about to make like this like very risky jokes or am i the person who's about to judge that like it's really trying to one of the other Yeah okay. I'm i mean i will say this. That psychologists designed these questions and so i can't speak to exactly. I think your feelings are valid of mud. Slump ed's my if you're also feeling maybe that you're not fun enough. That might be something you take away from this on your on my mud. I'm sorry a month's love and that caesar on but You guys did pretty well on those questions. So i want to do well. I want to do well. I a give give give cram what he wants. I think gave mud slow now wolf night. I love that in your now wolf nights wolf night. Wolf nile snooze alarm okay. I'm still snooze alarm. Well i mean it's random random actually that it was so random that i got the same one. Well that's the crazy thing. Europe late roulette. Sometimes it lands thirty six green twice. Why why bother. Why bother it's personality. You know if i was there i might be wondering miss things there. I'd say i'd say joy danish snooze alarm and just go for the ride you made fifty bucks you can head to the. Dwi warehouse and pick up a pair of kicks after a good. We're all having a good time. And i wanna i wanna move on so what we're going to do now is kind of this is like a were almost like a word. Association meets joke test. These are all possible. Punch lines to jokes and we're going to kind of We're going to say like you your name so if you like. Oh that's got potential or nay. I don't think you should make that sean. And then we will. We might discuss so right off the bat. We're going to go with grand theft auto immune disease gay or nay grand theft auto immune disease. Yeah yeah. I don't know the i feel like it's so setup driven not funny per se but like specific yeah. Okay let's great so you see. There's no heat or not like well. I have asthma. I don't wanna hear a joke about grand theft auto immune disease. I love it. No as a person with an immune whatever syndrome. yeah. I'm fine. I'm good and that's the thing you know you grown up pants on and the credit it's great guess. What viper oh. I'm sorry you were snooze. Alarm your viper now so we got viper okay and wolf nights congratulations night. That's my best name. I've ever had that seen and not heard immunity vaccine and not herd immunity. You could see where this could be a smart joke. you could Yet jerk chicken jerked. These seem just like puns. These all dislike plunge on their own onto jokes. And we're gonna you know we're building up to so maybe more difficult ones but right now. We're having a good time. Bananas foster care bananas foster care. Yeah i don't see why not. We're a bunch of people out say an open mic having a good time. Just we're not. We're not there to sort of attack somebody for taking a risk. Were there we about eventually to here. The setups with his jokes and then to see some of these. I very hurtful walk night. Great questions and we will get to ma. We're just kind of building your tolerance building for jobs. I know that's what's happening. But okay. It's like a warmup comic. you know i show. I can see that joe i. I'm sorry. I could see that. Beiber viper nipple clamp joke with in a pinch as the punchline so it's nipple clamp jar and in the punchline somehow the payoff is in a pinch yeah yeah and these are like if we'd be offended or not right. This is just like you're open to it. Okay open got a frankenstein. Porno called nuts and bolts. Yea you'll be something. Okay now we're gonna get into some of these hand syndrome. Hand me down syndrome. Yeah amazing non binary creamer i. I don't have a problem with it. I just don't think it works quite the way like the others dead. Joe is named positive joke. If it's if it punches and sex podge positive not non binary creamer. It's not a it's not about the content. It's about like the Structured delivered by allah. Now if it's punches it smart sex positive and delivered by allied non binary creamer no. It's just an it's like dairy. Nary it just like it's a little bit of a stretch for me like concerned about this joke. Let's not offended. I'm not offended by or think there's any problem with. I just was like. That was the one where i'm like. Okay that feels a little lazy. Okay great okay not. I don't know if that's what we're doing or if it's just great that's good to know thank you for. Yeah because we needed to check in and make sure we're doing great so Just so beiber. You're now scoot and a wolf night. You're now levels zero. Okay so just read just what happened. There's a bit of judgment going not wolf night. I was giving like honestly just a random literally. Just see an iphone with a dead screen. Put up an iphone with the dead screen. It's absolutely this is also involved. Just that's a like a wall charger. But yeah okay. My name is level. Zero zero and scoot. Okay here we go now. We're getting to the tough stuff. Labia minora like the jewish candles. Labia like so sad. Love it yet. That's a solid homerun. What where do you on this level zero. I'm going to go with me. Are we ask you something. What if it's pro. Palestine job wise this jokes about palestine and israel israel so it could be even looking or pro-palestine would live. I'm not gonna show my affiliation here. It's may either way fair enough. I will i'm against. Both people are either pro palestine or proser. I'm i'm against both. Wow that seems like you have some okay. Two more of these and then we're going to move onto the next group great. Hashtag me toot. Nay okay let me just give you a possible punchline for this a possible setup. I was in an airplane. And someone farted in my face. Hashtag knee toot now. I mean i don't think that punch very fine with the hashtag me too. I actually think that setup does not do justice to the reference of me to me the metoo movement which is what i think you're trying to reference with that job that just sounds like you're saying me to the general common phrase an adding t to make it toot. Wow that's a lot of analysis on jokes. Were very hard on thank you. Who are you walked on this. What will a famous. Your jokes are there. Any other people. Are you the person who picked us up at the galleria. Listen my associate. Picked you up. The galleria and these are jokes written by very successful comics. We're just trying to sharpen the edges. Live in hollywood joe and i like when somebody says various successful like we'd better here some names otherwise we'll be the judge of it is successful. Give you some details. like i'm talking successful. Like they have a bugatti park next to a land rover and they go onto the laugh factory at ten thirty successful and that is that is successful. I don't see why those people have to do this. You know in our coming up with basically you It's dangerous to go out and put your heart on the line and have people reject you so they're dislike. Save us that humiliation cram and you kind of you go out there and you talk to these people and by the way. I might seem agitated. I'm loving this. i'm loving it. I didn't even. I didn't not i i. I don't know if we i mean you're is. I am having the time of my life. If i were to read your micro expressions i would say you're beyond yourself. I'm getting a lot of data. This is a wall charger. You just holding out yeah. I'm not sure you know what that was Last one and then we're gonna move onto some jokes you doing. Great both of you a school level zero. You are doing a solent. Hashtag lack lobes matter. Tsunami lives low matter. I i think it's i think it's fine. I think you're going to get most people not really liking that. But what okay. I think it's possible setup. I think rye bread doesn't get the credit it deserves hashtags black lives matter. Yeah i mean. I have no problem with it as far as a vending or anything. Just i think it's i think people made that joke. Maybe five years ago kind of. Wow okay i'm gonna go with. Nay let me just throw something out. What if the person telling you. This joke voted for obama. Both terms yeah. I don't see that changing anything for me. I bet you saw. i'm outspoken. proponent of barack. Obama makes this joke. No i mean because it's like saying have have black friends or something it's like i don't care like i don't know what the context is i. Just yeah just take the time to black friends and shoot time ram talking. That's not this is a okay. Okay yeah greg what you did those great. Let me see. Check it out. Randomized time flop. Sweat dance That's who scoop. Scooter flop sweat and who is scoot scoot. I was scared sweat now and levels zero just call you. Blitz randomize randomize avenue cram. You looked at the ceiling. Your darty the is right and left in panic trying to figure out how to come up with the most offensive term and you said blah which is fine but it just feels definitely directed like it doesn't hurt my feelings but i feel like Slash i don't know what's your new name. Would you say that it feels like the judgments. That's flop sweat. It did it just because it felt like you may podcast but at least with your audience. I'm holding up a randomized right now. You're a dead iphone with a like a wall charger even connected to the watch charger. But the wall charges not connected to anything. The phone is dead. I only have an hour of your time. I'm so excited for you to be here. I wish we could this great stuff. It's all been domine written down in a note like we are excited about your points of view so but we need to move on because we've got one more we've got place puzzle please so now as you see. I'm going to be putting on this. I'm going to put on this mask. A roof baiter. Ginsburg so i want you now to receive these jokes as if they are being told to you by former supreme court justice. Rest in peace. Ruth bader ginsburg. So i need you to be like if i was at open mic in ruth. Bader ginsburg was fair. How would i reacted to these jokes. Oh is that however we acting if it's really her saying this jokes or somebody impersonating okay. Let me just put it this way. You're you're at your an apple visit encino. Let's just say you're just no way. I would buy that like somebody like the deceased. So this is like this was years ago. this is pretend was like when she was healthiest. You're at this applebee's it's happy hour. You're celebrating getting this huge contract for a company in the medical industry Adjacent and you're like open mic and you go over like i want to have a good time because i like to laugh and ruth bader ginsburg walks up so as a dislike. This mask is only here so that you can really just visually imagined ruth bader ginsburg said these jokes and i'm curious if it changes how he responded yet. The mask is a little distracting. Because it's like. Have you left it in the sun or something because it's like cracked and i don't have a color printer okay. I i'm doing well. But i don't have color printer so i had to go to raise copy. Which is around the corner from my house and he left it near the door. Because i was running late. So it's a little sunburn but pretenders don't think of it like as repaid against right jennifer life. This is when things were going really. Well okay so again. Ninety nine thousand. Nine nineteen ninety. She's healthy. it's really her. it's not somebody pretending to be her or reciting. I have this mass god to help you to out all right. Thank you for the context. And i'll pull them get behind. I'm gonna pull out this mike. Also that's okay you guys. It's not real. Maybe they'll give you the sense that you're at this applebee's open mic. Fresh off the celebration of a huge contract Hypothyroidism i'm not going to do a ruth bader ginsburg voice. Because that's where i get in trouble still my voice. Yeah jerry use an old person voice. Would that help you to well. I think it's really up to you. I don't think you should be asking the subjects right. Yeah you just give the audience where you think they need like do this point good point. I'll do old percival's an old jewish persons worse. Okay bearing enough aid so much pussy that my voice changed a handle. Yeast infliction right. Now i mean i have no problem with it. I'd be more shocked that she is. I wouldn't call it like A funny joke to be honest. But i will be like whoa. She is fucking just. Does your mind blown. That's my my my primo injustice. Just walked up there open mic inner seventies and drops a pussy joke. You'd be losing your mind. I would be a yeah. I just don't get the. I'm a little confused. What how this helps one of your clients. 'cause it's about it's about subverting what people expect via presentation. I guess the point is if ruth beta ginsburg can do this. A woman of great means in wealth Then i guess my client a middle aged white six gender straight. Man probably should be able to do this joke at an open mic right. That doesn't really work because the example sauce extreme. It's like if i said hey. What if a dog went onstage and said knock knock. who's there orange orange. You glad to see me. That's a really like stupid joke. But the fact that a dog said it would be amazing. But that doesn't mean that it gives everybody else the right. I'm barely breathe now so now. Just imagine okay i. I'm sorry. I'm sorry i i don't understand why we need to create this other character of ruth gays break saying this joke is because we're afraid that nobody would like this joke otherwise because bad. Nobody's scared there yelling. You're screaming just know that these rooms that we use it. The sherman oaks. Galleria are huge. So that's just that's just me projecting because it's a huge that. Yeah i just don't understand the methodology. Ah i would see it more as like. Hey here's a bunch of jokes peerages blank. No person associated with them. no history no voice. Are these funnier. Not i understand. Joy and joe actually should be clear. I'm breaking character. Not calling you flop sweat right now. Because i series point i think the points. You make are very salient. But i have to tell you. That's not. how joke is groups work. There's only warranted science to like keeping you off balance so right now. I'm lee is ruth bader ginsburg thing. I don't think it was a total success. We do try to. Let's just pretend right now. I'm a vietnam vet who was sitting outside the applebee's and and like have came in just for a couple of dollars to get something at the seven eleven saw the open mic. And this sort of dirty mangy. You know person who's been left behind by the government walks up on stage tells this joke and like how would we react. Did you know there was a time. Painters only used menstrual blood. It was called the period period. I d- i think. I think that's funny so that like how did you feel seeing this person that you thought like had nothing going on for them like suicide age. They just been begging for money outside and they just drop this. Aw that's happened to me. In fact many homeless people have come up to me and said a dirty joke or an offensive joke. That was funny. I think that's actually fairly commonplace. Menstrual blood and homeless people have a friend who was assaulted by a homeless person. Smearing her menstrual blood on his face. She's just was funny. No just just putting few specifics together in the real story how you really stymied me like. I did not see that coming. It's a thing but yeah no i. I don't know if i loved the joke. Incredible you think though that like if an old it's all right you heard that joke knowing it's an open mic where you're there to test material abso- boom like. Oh that's pretty fun. That's like as a group no matter how we look where we're from our life experience as a community you'd be. Let's cheer this guy on. Obviously he's never done microphone. No i i don't know you're you're putting a lot into this scenario person that i don't know if that's really helping. I think it's a fun joke. Okay hold on. I like the period period punchline period. I mean to solve punchline. Certain upon by people drink margaritas six thirty in our these jokes that you did with. Are these jokes that you did. Not that night the open mic. that's I as i said the beginning of this. Emma retired stan. I run these jokes groups for wealthy successful. These are jokes written by masters of the craft. Follow up with joe's question. Are you testing out whether these recycle jokes from that devastating experience woodland better if a you pretend to be either veteran or where mask of ruth. Ginsburg hoping hopes of making somebody laugh. That is such no offense. That is such a long walk. You just put together. I mean it was a lot. It's a lot of awards. Angry conspiracy sizing. If i'm being honest. I don't want to be for you to patch these things together in a row. It's like that is very much pizza gate action for me personally. I don't think so. Like i even know how some of these connect the idea that i told you. A story about a failed open. Mic immediately opened a business that told jokes and somehow those are my jokes from the failed. Up of mike. It's like those three things. Do not go together. they really do. I mean i don't know if they're true but they really do just the way. You're the you're so defensive of the juggler take control of this again. Okay now flop sweat. You are simp- scampi you're simpson shrimp scampi but simp- scampi right and You are gears so you are sips camping and who cares okay. And we're gonna we're gonna go back now that we've had a little chance we're going to go back and again you just raise your hand if you agree with one or more of the fault. That's all i. You got disparate for validation that you created this one man business where you take clause pay people to give you feedback so desperately hoping for validation to tanna parking spots under this building a gated underground parking garage. I've to tandem spots. I have two bedrooms one and a half and a patio big enough for a barbecue and a small dog bed and an inversion table for my back so i don't think that sounds like a desperate person but validation has nothing to do with material. Wealth does yeah. I i i like. If people don't laugh at my jokes. I love it. I don't think he'd do. I have a question. can you tell. Let's pause the The role play of your shit right. Now we're just jones who cares. Yeah back to the podcast Can you share one or maybe a couple of the jokes you said. During the open. Mike the infamous open. Mind you guys really want to hear some. Because i mean haven't him on his computer again let's keep in mind appleby. Six thirty people have had some drinks. You know this isn't the apollo you know. It's essentially a might set up in front of a jukebox. Like a standard should be low but here here a couple of them. Should i just really get behind them. Joe our edges. Say them i am. Let's do what you did that night. The barely remember it. You have them written down though. Hey everybody what's going on. What's going on. Yeah crazy crazy during those drinks. Yeah we'll you enjoy more navin leader. A lot of us are here to celebrate but some of us are ear. 'cause we're not having the best day you don't go to a bar because you're the best day all the time i'm here to celebrate my industrial medical waste business which takes care of medical waste in a fun way. I don't wanna get into it but we just got a big contract. But sometimes i go to a bar because i'm upset that's okay right. That's what alcohol's for. But i'll tell you i've got a little trick this secret. I'm going to give you if you're upset on how to sort of get through it. Maybe not necessarily get an alcohol addiction. I have a zippo lighter. So you see here. Have the zippo. I will just go in the bathroom. And i'll put it right between my ass cheeks. 'cause that way i know there's a light at the end of the tunnel so i hate a lot of that and the least bad part is the punchline. I think to go to an open. Mike at a bar and start you know talking negatively about everybody's situation and this group job look like a bunch of bunch of sex shit that doesn't matter like chicken fingers that's like i could accounted the coronary artery disease. So i think that's where you failed it just by that. And you seem very well rehearsed with those portions of it. So i don't know what that was about and i find it weird that you have several multi-million dollar clients who all seemed to like these same style of pun jokes because a lot of what Comedy is these days stand up. Comedy is long. Form storytelling It's there's not many comedians mitch hedberg types who are just doing these one and two punches of jokes. You might find an a list of one hundred on the internet. I'm gonna you know what. Just because i feel like there's this recurring theme that maybe i'm full of shit. I am going to reveal one of my clients right now and it is a great storyteller who now is trying to reform their image and out there with vaster. Funnier jokes and you might have heard of this person. Because they're one most face people in the world but Bill cosby one of my clients. So i don't think that's true. I even if it were true. I mean we can't even address whether we'd be with into that. I have one of the most famous comedians in the world paying me say can't even get there. We can't even get to. What if it was true. 'cause it's just not it's simply not true. He wouldn't be saying those jokes. So you have a problem with america's dad that what's going on. I mean if you know cram but he's not been. He's not being america's dad for a while. now what's going on. I can only imagine that you don't read internet But he's been canceled for raping people. And i hate that word cancelled in no he was criminally charged. He wasn't you're right canceled. He was right right now. he's in jail right now. I that's where things get a little spotty here recently. He was recently released on a technicality. And i should say that. I stock in my head. That's why i said but you're right joe. He's a criminal offender. So i don't think that's on your clients and i think for you to reveal your secret client list just to save face is actually pretty shitty. There's a lot of layers here like even if it is true. It's really bad. Look joe what i see. Here's pain pain in front of us human existence. All right there is a person came on our podcast who wants to be loved and he wants. Attention love acceptance. But that's maybe the wrong way to go about. It is to fake your way in with this business that may not exist and also like what kind of business who's making money are still don't know i. I think it's a midlife crisis. And you wish you always artists cram but that never happened. You never dedicate your life to so you're proud you proud that you've achieved where you think it's sustainable wealth. Which i mean it's i guess you you're living good life compared to most struggling artists and You think that there's a shortcut to get audiences love by testing out your jokes because when you try to the first time. They didn't land but there's no shortcut. There's no shortcut you have to homecraft like anybody else and it's okay to start when you sixty four. That's okay you can't can't can't fake your way in louis. Ck is another one of my clients now. Always not no. He doesn't need you. Where what list were you reading. Where does the list that inspired new to give these people's names did you just grab a random list on internet which was probably the list of most recent i like i liked looking but only titles in pictures so like i liked the experience of scrolling list on my phone but only the big font and the picture so This you are you lonely. I am recently divorced. What's recent six months ago. So things kind of i don't. I don't think things have been going. Well since that event have they. My wife was She was she. My wife had the idea ex wife i have to say. She had the idea of going into industrial medical. Waste and i had the idea of doing it in a fun way so we were she perfect match. You know She was the safety. You were the fun. The risk i was the i was the risk taker. Feel like a huge rock image yesterday. Now well you know you always feels worse before it gets better. It's only six months since what i would An clinically diagnosis a mental breakdown. Extend though i think still we're still in. This is part of it i aftershocks. I often feel like i went in for an I've had such trouble breathing winning for x. Ray the other day. And i was like you know what would you do with your life. Cram your crammed obscene. What are you doing the man and they told me everything was fine. And i said i'd like a second opinion so i asked for extra copies of the x ray and the technician said. Trust me you don't want to more to more Like a tumour yet Xrays won't usually show a tumor right. Because it's mri will show soft tissue Think of it like two more because they asked for extra copies. Okay so it's worse. It's not so Crayon i think you hold on pick spitting out that one. I got the tumor part two more. I don't know why you why you did that right now. I don't know but it's like grasping onto straws as you drowning to let yourself feel the feelings. I don't crying is better than doing those jokes. Right yeah i think you need. I don't really know what he needs to do. From this point on. I think trying as part of it. I don't know if you should continued even pursuing comedy. I think Something else is going on. It almost feels irresponsible even Air something like this. But i think we have a schedule. A release schedule we have to we have to do. These episodes have utilized. Will you make me a promise. And would you go through and would you just wherever it's applicable. Change my name to thrown dollops. No i i think that would go in really it. Sounds like but if every time someone says cram myself included you say th- ram in that way. I have like some plausible deniability about doing the making an acid myself. I wouldn't go get about that because years you're doing. I would maybe consider if you vowed to never do comedy or your business ever again take care of yourself like Medically emotionally mentally for at least a year. What seems like because a yes. Sit start yeah more time than you spent doing this. You know more than six months you know i. I hate to have to get to this portion but we're gonna have to get to the rating of section of risky comedy now. Cran you might not know this. You might not have listened to the show but we're gonna rate risky comedy on a scale of zero to ten using something else as a reference. Such as clean comedy is a ten. I think risky comedies. Or two or you could even use something like cookies. Cookies or renate risky comedies. A ten and if that doesn't make sense. Although i a risky comedy. I do like risky comedy. I think There are things socially that we know are bad like a white guy saying the n. Word is just bad. There's you're not really going to make that funny I'd say ninety nine point nine percent of the cases so that's not risky comedy to me to somebody to try to do something like that. But i think when we're generally talking about risk comedy great and i think i'll rate it up against clean comedy. I think clean comedy is a six thank you. There's always going to be a place for it a need for it. I'll say risky comedy visit a nine. I do enjoy some risky comedy. I think we get more out of it. So i just got a nine hundred ten. Not you the concept of risky comedy. I don't think you should be attaching yourself stuff anymore. That no i don't think you should be. I am worried that we are reinforcing. The wrong thing. Yeah i. I'm trying to do do what we do. But sasha why don't we have you go. Let's see if we can clean the up risky comedy. I agree completely with joe in terms of. Something's just being taboo for the good reason But we take risky comedy where it's like. We are risky. But we're not attacking People who should not be attacked An eight and you know a safe safe jerry. Seinfeld type of jokes are. I grew with joe. It's it's a six. It's a sick over cram so that's another digger over the fence. Is that correct. I mean if you if you got a need for me. That would be amazing. But i am. I am rating risky comedy. In general you again krant more importantly what is what is your take on the risky comedy in relation to anything else in life on a ten scale. Thank you and by the way joanne sasha. I wanna thank you. I know i had some less than admirable moments in the last hour. And i think both of you Held your component. You're you have integrity. And i never felt attacked so crams always learning guest. I will rate this on a scale of how currently people are dealing with industrial medical. Waste comes the surprise. But i'm fast. Yeah anything. I've said it could be anything you did. You said anything. So i'm gonna give it six because i feel like what's wrong with that industry is they have found some very good safety protocols that get rid of medical waste in a way that risks almost no danger to the people moving it or the places that it's stored but loses four points because it's just fun job right but there's just. This is a missed opportunity to house some some good times. That sounds something your wife your wife year ago but anyway okay and on that scale and that comparing risky comedy to industrial medical waste removal. I have to give me a nine attempt. I'll give cram nine hundred ten for where again. That's not what we're doing but but you know sometimes it's like nobody gonna give love to you. You give love to yourself at the end of the day. I remember an old proverb. That mitt ratchet. That was the guy who got into business told me which was he said. Cram what has two thumbs and always cokes himself in the is this guy well we started talking about thinkers and how. You're thinking comedian. I wish more of that would come up. Come back come back with more. I want to hear from you. I want to hear from you. Not doing anything even adjacent to this. And what you're doing right now. That's how i want to hear from. I'm going to come back to this podcast in one calendar year. Yeah i want to hear about your experiences from today and the year from now i actually do really do. We're friends three of us. I'm briefly math funds. So thank you. Cram dollop season for coming onto podcast joe. Is there anything you'd like to. I'm afraid to ask plug Just real quick. Check out my movie review. Podcast beat it movie review. It's really hard to do this over quiet sobbing but The beat a movie review. Also check out. Joe cabrera dot com just released a new pinna. Neil enamel pen. That's a death stranding haning mixed with bottoms up my comic book so you can get the pin on zayn great resign so good check it out and cram any final words. Squeak plugs or anything. Just take care of yourself out there all right. thank you elizabeth sold for artwork. Thank you mister owl for this amazing song and thank you for listening.
Michelle Sims Dont Let Your Past Define You
"Welcome to the roots of leadership with Anthony Grupo. Good morning. This is Anthony Grupo greetings to the roots of leadership podcast. We're we're coming to you from London and my guest is sitting in Bristol in the United Kingdom. So welcome to the show Michelle Sims Michelle, welcome to the show off. You know, thank you Anthony. It's a real pleasure to be here. Thank you. I'm glad you joined us Michelle. And today we'll be talking about really what I think is the essence of the roots of leadership that combines both family and and Business and Professional. So Michelle is a business leader and I'm Michelle. I wanted to start off the discussion today with some of your thoughts. Let's just stick to a professional platform. First is what it what do you think that a leader has to do to be successful? Okay. So for me, I think it's primarily to support that team to look after them to nurture them to a degree try and drive through them what it is. They're trying to achieve and develop them and bring the best out of them. They've all got their own goals and their hopes and dreams and aspirations and it's just coaching them toward that and to help them along that Journey. Yeah, thank you. You know when you when you talk about nurturing and helping people get the best out of them and I'm hoping that you know, we we can develop them that's very similar to what parents probably hope for for their children. Do you agree? I think it's very very similar. I think for me. It was the family. I hope that wouldn't goals and aspirations equally and a team equally has that and also could be your work family. So yes the to really do run parallel. Well, that's why I really was. Help thankful. When you agree to come on the show today because today's routes of leadership often on the show is you know, I go one-on-one with leaders from around the world and and we talked about a whole host of subjects and we talked about leadership from various perspectives. But today I want to talk about the real roots of leadership as it starts from in the family and that a lot of the combination of of family life Leadership and professional leadership are so similar. So Michel invites you on the show because not only being a very successful business leader. But tell us a little bit about how you how you started your family because it is it is not the traditional way is it? It is not a traditional way. There was certainly no pregnancy. There was certainly no waiting nine months for that to come to fruition. And so I guess kind of take you back really so 2005 is probably the the key points of that my sister had two children. She got a thought into quite a few difficulties. And very long story short was just very unable to to look after them properly. She was being watched by various services and supported but she couldn't quite sort of get their money in terms of giving the children what they need. I was just about to celebrate my thirtieth and literally about five days before that. Suddenly them were placed into the care system. I don't really remember that day too much. My parents will speak of it being very emotional and of course the children as well. They they completely adore them, even though I guess deep dial then you she wasn't looking after them properly. So they always Michelle how old were the children of time points. They would have been fine and 7 p.m. Okay. Thank you. So, yeah, they still came to my party. We applied to have them out of the care for the weekend. They came to the party. We've got some beautiful photos. And they hooked me into the event. It was all very special and then after that it kind of been sued a time of where these children going to be for the rest of their lives and health associations were considered their birth father's came into the mix and they they have different partners sadly and that wasn't considered a bulb option. Even my own parents were reviewed as it were to see if they could look after them and because of where my father lives he lives north of the country to us here and it was just considered that to move them up there would be too far away from it for the day. So so that was declined as well. So we kind of reached this point of say, you know, where are these children going to spend the rest of their lives? I was at that point completely far removed from anything that looks like a woman who was suspect enough to kids. I lived in a two-bed apartment. I had a two-seater sports package when I did what I wanted every single day. It wasn't about a card not a car is you could easily put a child's seat in or or or even a five or seven year old would fit. Well. Yes, ma'am. Absolutely. Of course the me, I would drop the top down and drive around all the proper chick about town but yes, not really in connection with having a family. So it's just a lot of thinking I did a lot of thinking without anybody knowing I didn't tell a single living sold it my head was wondering whether I could effectively adopt these children wage. I can remember though the day I kind of realized and I came to my decision that I was I was going to give it a try. I was going to ask to be processed. And I think my dad and he thought this was just some little random chit-chat call but we did do the chitchat then and I just said I've kind of got something to tell you. I think at that point if you asked him you probably his head was blown in the sense it where the hell is this kind of comfortable equally probably quite Crag bulb on it. So we had a big old discussion about that. I mean again my living situation at that point, I lived in a shared apartment with a work colleague. It was all just completely soaked removed. So in between times I asked for yourself, I went through quite a big arrest process off of someone coming to my home and asking me lots of questions about how we feel about discipline how I watch TV. Would I allow them to watch what do I feel about this program that program taught me through your routine quite vigorous testing and that went on for so long. trailer full sessions two hours at a time I was then presented to panel and the long and short of it post a court case that we all had to go to it was proved that they could come and pick with me home and so kind of fast forward and slightly to 24th May 2006, which is are moving in J home. I woke up. I didn't have children by the end of that night. I had to so always remember phoning my friends. My very oldest friends have known each other since he was seven months almost things her and search Rachel actually come and we were both even now that makes me choke to remember that conversation. Then I hired a big old van. I drove down to the Foster placement which by now they've been with this family for ten months or even that was an emotional thing for them. They were being removed from this Austin a beautiful family. They're still very much part of our story. No, they actually emigrated to New Zealand a couple of years ago, but we're still very much connected but they just did absolute wonders with these two kids for the the ten minutes they were with them. So now it's like loading everything back into that van and taking on stripping that away from them. So that was emotional in itself. They were very very attached to Julian Paul and and they had a wonderful family life with them. So yeah that night I was their age gender of two children. I was zipping still like minute ice in between, So we're still living in a two-bedroom apartment or house purchase fell through just at the point and they kind of wage didn't and yeah, we we kind of shared bedrooms. They would go one would go in the spare room one would come with me and we'd alternate home. So yeah, that's the kind of the start of it. That's how it started off so it at the same time and it's you know, we wanted the theme today to be for you what what we wanted to Think Through the listeners because many of you out there maybe aren't facing exactly the same dramatic decision that Michelle phased but we have family issues that certainly We have to blend in with the same time managing careers and and opportunities Michelle. What what was it about your mindset about your courage and and focus that allowed a thirty-year-old to take and children now that I believe I'm sure that off there were a lot of discussion that you had with like you said with your friend Rachel and parents and others. How did you keep the balance between continuing to be a business leader and building a career took a sudden being thrust thrust into motherhood. How did you keep the balance? Yeah, it had its difficulties. Shall we say I did take some time off work initially. I I took adoptive least I actually took five months off my position a point. I worked for an insurer and literally dedicated my everyday to them for for 5 months today. And as I say moved in the may I didn't return to work until the end of September. So yes, it was challenging. I did it's important to know that I did work full-time the entire time. I never received my hours not because I couldn't or that wasn't an option. I just wanted that balance exactly as you say I still wanted to carry on working and also I was very passionate about showing them that actually you want certain things you have to work hard for it. So I felt that was a strong message to give them I had support from my mom Chiefs to take the children to school. Pick them up, but later moved into me using Provisions in terms of after school and before school clubs. I talked them to be able to cook from a young age. So they were six and eight by the time they came to live with me. I was coach certainly Nathan could do a Bolognese probably by the time he was about ten years only because it just we needed to do though. They had activities that they wanted to take part in. I won't get home till 6. We need to be back at the door by half-past. So I taught them cook so that they could prep dinner. We could walk that down as soon as I got in and then we could crack onto an activity. So is is is part is part of that balance. Then helping them become balances individuals themselves learning to cook at a young age or being able to to see you as a as a single mom. I will say anti and Mom. Right combination of being able to see that that helped them with the balance and and grow up with goals and dreams of their own. I hope so when they kind of, you know, I've heard about friends talk and and they they quite often laughter Alicia and Nathan of no no to cook your Alicia can cook a full-on breaks than a lot of friends. Our own age can't in terms of how they perceive me. Yes, you know Alicia certainly taken money. She's very strong. She's very powerful to meet her is an honor and a privilege. She's she's not allow her path to Mark her future. She has massive aspirations to join the RAF. So yeah. I hope I instilled that in them and money for her. She's she's taking everything. I showed you on board and and she literally does want to fly. You know when you say that right, you said A very wise comment about don't let your past Mark your future yet for most people their past leaves an indelible mark on them. And and and we all should right because it should help us guide the future by when our our our experiences and past experiences. But what what guidance what else do you have for the listener? Who who struggles with letting the past go where maybe it was painful? It was a struggle. How do you offer guidance? Would you get them what advice you get them to how to how to let it go and move on. I guess I can only liken it to our situation. It's it's not the delicious forgotten it if I use the example Nathan lives away from us now, so it is dealing with some other issues. So she still talks about it and I think that's important. So we're very often talk about Something might trigger it we will talk about I mean she can recount some horrific stories of things that happened but we talked it through and we come home, you know, really come out the other end of it. Like I feel it's made her stronger. She's she's much more objective because she's seen the other side of life. She seen that very unhappy time. So she's she's very appreciative of everything that she has and what she's achieved. So my one piece of advice is don't push it away. Don't push or passed away. It happens. It's it's always going to be part of her, but just to talk about it and almost embrace it because she certainly does and you know, she'll talk openly and quite candidly. She's not ashamed or embarrassed to talk about where she come from and she's not awkward about telling our story so If anything keep talking and embrace it and if you can do that and you can help others, which is what we've both spoken about doing then you know, I think that's the best way to look at it home. Yeah, I totally agree and it it's striking isn't it how when people have this discussion with their children or or even as adults and think about us in business. We we've come to a place in business now where it's it's becoming more challenging to have open discussions because of fear of of how people perceive it or HR practices or compliance or risk or wage or whatever else might might come into play but in reality as you spoke to to the children About things that were happening and being honest with them. So do we in business so as a business leader? How do you how do you assure that your team to build the team that you'd lead that you give them transparency without crossing the line? Yeah, because how do you walk that tightrope? Yeah, that is a fine balancing act. So I I guess I'm an example even just from this morning. I've communicated with the team that someone's going to be in the business for a little while not necessarily going to the detail but felt it important to discuss with them that this was happening. I might ask them to cover some of that person's work off for us to come together as a team and we might look to support this person in the future. So I've always believed in openness whether it's personal or professional but it's just not holding back sometimes on the detail. You don't necessarily have to go full in if it's not appropriate but I just for me it's always work better if I'm at least honest and it's just share what I can share. Well, thank you. I'm here today on the roots of leadership with Michelle Sims a business leader a single mom who at the age of thirty decided to adopt her niece and nephew may continue your career and lead a family. So Michelle, you know, we've talked about nurturing and drive and and development openness honesty transparency being able to 2 a.m. Remember the past and market for the future without allowing it to have a Stranglehold on us and and freezing Us in the present. We show as when you think that you mentioned about Alicia and and you you spoke about her with such such love and pride how how can we instill and whether of his parents or or leaders? How do you feel that people we can instill pride in those that we serve? What's what some of how do you do it instinctively how to instill Pride? Yeah. So for me, it's a communication thing. It comes down to praise and it comes down to having those open conversation with people they certainly within the workplace or be honest. If someone's done a good job, then they've done a good job and hotel them about it. You know, I want them to feel proud of what they've done all admit that I might not be able to do something and they're the better person for the job. You know, I want them to feel empowered and I follow that through at home as well. We open reopen if she's kicking butt and she's really done. Well, she will know that she's really doing well. It's just something this it's just really important to me that everyone should feel that they're doing a good job, whether that's personal professional or whatever. It comes in to prep communication. So Michelle as you if you've had these Life Experiences How did they make you better? Oh my days I'm so much better for what is certainly on a personal level. I mean if you'd have asked me, you know fifteen years ago, could you imagine raising a couple of kids that weren't even yours? I would have probably laughed in your face. I'll say it's no leave a message cuz I think your term was a proper chick about town. I was I was you know, I used to drive around but the roof down east think I was the bee's knees. I do I have to take you seriously love this little English phrases bee's knees proper chick about doubt about it. It's just been a wonderful wonderful experience and I I I genuinely wouldn't change yet. I mean if you could meet her you would know exactly where I was coming from. She said she really does light up a room when she comes into it. She's just so respectful. So just amazing to talk to her. She's very passionate, you know, she'll walk up to you know, she could meet you now and she would not be like, oh, I can't talk to him. She would literally like you won't be able to shut her up. Can't think where she gets that from? Yeah. I was just going to say thank you for saying that yourself. the kind of So it's just been one choice then heart. I would be lying. If I sat here and said it's been easy. We faced a lot of challenges. But again we reflect on those and we loved about them. Sometimes if it's something that was a bit crazy at the time, but actually now we see the funny side and our relationship. So she still lives here with me. Our relationship is second-to-none. She writes me beautiful messages when it's my birthday or whether it's Mother's Day Father's Day funnily enough to include me in that she calls me her friend her mom her and she is just everything rolled into one. She's just a beautiful human being so for me not to be enriched by that for me not to have developed through that and just be a better person then I'd be something Thank you, Michelle. So if it's okay with you, I'll add one more title to all those ones that Alicia calls you and I'd like to just call you a leader and a very courageous woman who who the essence of the roots of leadership and why this podcast crew has created for the listeners is embodied within you today. And I think your role model for many of us listening today of of what you are capable of what we are capable of as as humans when we're driven to serve others. We show it happen on ER having you on the show today. I really enjoyed it. Yeah. It's definitely been an honor to be here. I don't think if the opportunities then fantastic thank you. This is Anthony Grupo. Thank you for joining today's episode on the route of the ship where I was showing with Michelle Sims business leader parent and overall servant-leader to humanity. Please join us next time we go one-on-one with some of the world's greatest leaders. Thank you. Have a great day.
The Art of Disruption for the Serial Entrepreneur | John Royce Lynch (PCMA Private Client Lending) | DH090
"Welcomed the digital hospitality. I on your host. Sean walsh jeff. This is colleen. bbq media production. Today is a very special day every single week. We talk about digital hospitality business to be digital i and every business in hospitality business as a single unit barbecue restaurant while we're actually two units now because we have ghosts kitchen. We teach people how to become a media company. We keep small businesses. We teach entrepreneurs and were so fortunate this show to interview other successful entrepreneurs in all lines of work. Today's guest is john royce lynch the ceo and founder of p. c. m. a private client lending. Thank you for hosting us in orange county. Where thank you for the opera to or the invite to do this so we made it up from san diego on. These are incredible offices. We've got people working hard. Socially distance of course But i i wanna i wanna read something that is on your website because i found it very Moving so this who. John royce lynch's from very humble beginnings to running my own firms. Earning billions this journey has given me crystal clear purpose causing belief. I work hard to inspire all to create the unexpected. So that the unexpected becomes expected. I have a ravenous appetite for life and business but neither in the traditional sense. My life who. I am what i do differently. And why i do. It is reflected in my personal persona. In my company's innovative habits are sought modern ways mastered and zero complacency insisted on to me disruption lives in the roots of exclusivity and originality. Not novelty my app. My appetites for helping others to develop and grow is my true north and my ambition is beyond measure. This odyssey i call my life complete with its flaws has been well documented and shared and always will be but above all. I am driven to be a good father husband neighbor pretty unexpected. I wrote that You know kind of like an outline of like you know how do you how do you say what your your your purpose. 'cause and belief is in you know when life is such a big story to be told. I wrote that about five years ago just to kind of outline for the people who are paying attention you know. I have the opportunity to have a little bit of attention. And it's like what are you gonna. What purpose or user. You're gonna you know put in play so you know the story the legacy that you leave behind. It's it's not about me it's about. My daughter is about my wife. My friends my family and at the end of the day when when life life meets its end for you and you never really get to hear the impact that you have on people's lives unfortunately until you're no longer here and then they get they their slight and small little moments. I've had the opportunity for people. Tell me like the most insignificant things that that i thought were insignificant. Had such an impact as it could have been the right thing at the right time and the right moment with the right person in the right people and you know i just want to live a life that just unbridled ambition constant growth because at the end of the day. What the hell are we here for. I think i mean it was very moving when i read it because i know having a true north means so much It doesn't matter how big or how small your businesses if you are leading you need to lead by example and when you write something like that it's difficult to do but it's so important to do because having a clear purpose allows you to explain that to all the people that you do business with Tell us a little bit of your origin story on the unexpected success. You know i mean. I come from very humble beginnings. I think life is a proclamation of what you make of it. Your your circumstances in your surroundings are not a by product of your forever. I come from very humble beginnings. And i'm grateful for that because i grew up in in. I had roof over my head food in my belly. Love in my heart and in a family and friends at cared about me. As i started to get older i was fortunate enough to grow up in orange county which allowed me to get around ambitious living right and and you know a lot of times the the the the the the success that you see is you just have to get comfortable being in the environment and i was fortunate enough to grow around. Grow up around people that mentored me whether they knew it or not. I was just getting comfortable recognized. They were just people and they were working really hard no harder than i was. It was just in a different manner that i was doing it. That afforded them to have a life That i wanted to live and in that be able to get to change the trajectory of my family forever. Because also too you know we are such a byproduct of our family and how our family you get really comfortable in it so getting comfortable getting comfortable being uncomfortable as a super is a major part the growth story because i grew up in a household that that were laborers union workers. You know none of them were entrepreneurs you know and why meaning is because of the other influences that that just allowed me to to expand beyond what was prototypical the roadmap that i should have gone down and explore that and i would say also to the major part of the origin story on how it rolls from Into a professional career of business ownership and entrepreneurship. Like you get a lot of that has to do with childhood sports. Yeah right growing up in sports. You put yourself out there see your self. Esteem is is developing at like three. And what from three to ten. And i mean this sets a trajectory of your life and i was fortunate enough to be very athletic Played at very high levels in all the different sports that i played at and that confidence to say i know what i know the process of work effort and in some cases. Gloria what that looks like and then you just translate it from your might athletic life in my professional life. I was very fortunate to grow up in an affluent neighborhood. I grew up in la. Hoya I'd never met my father. My grandfather raised me. He was an immigrant and medical doctor but he had such an emphasis on hard work and education But it was the people that surrounded myself. Because i was so fortunate to go to private school yet. They're all of my friends all of the households that i was fortunate to go in. I didn't realize through osmosis. I could see the success of somebody that you know whether they work in banking whether they were an attorney whether you know whatever they're they own their own business so many of those stories were inspirational to me and i didn't even know that as i was growing up. Was there anybody in particular any friends or friends. Father friend's mother. That had an impact on you. While i will say is so out of high school i became professional surfer and i spent the latter part of my teens and early twenties jason waves around and enjoying that part of my life but when i came back and i realized when i was twenty two twenty three that i didn't wanna do. I don't want to live out of a backpack anymore. And i wanted to. I needed to do something different. So i started a window cleaning business with well. I got a job with with my buddy a window cleaning business. And i've got the opportunity to go on these beautiful homes and as i got to know the clients. That's that osmosis thing. Because prior to that i didn't know those people. Yeah i lived in two bedroom. Apartments with the family of four and so Getting inside these environments where you're like. It's the most tackler talk. oh yeah. Like low is beautiful. Oil rancho santa fe arguing. What you realize. Is you get comfortable being in the environment and more you get comfortable with the people who have this type of lifestyle and then and then from there that was really easy for me to transition miam- bishen and you know move towards that part of my life now. Having a window can business you know taught me the basic fundamentals of you know how to operate a business and then when i wanted to figure out how to not make money with my hands anymore and it started to make money with my mind. Then there was a transition that went into that and and then i started moving towards you know the securities business inside the securities business and security is not like armed security more of the financial markets. I met a gentleman who is in his late forties and he really took a liking twenty seven. At the time that i i went to work for an institutional fixed income bond firm here Bashing and he he and i became friendly and he was a very powerful guy from the banking industry Very and he he started grooming towards one day running my own bank really and and in that he taught me a lot about the financial markets but more importantly what he wants. He gave me the confidence and he helped open doors removed. He didn't give me anything but by no but he but he got me in front of people to get me comfortable being afraid of those people who could eventually give me the stepping stones towards wherever i was going to go but the one thing he said to me says john. When you reach that pinnacle of success make sure that you you honor me and honor those who have given you a handout and not a hand up. Not a handout. And when it's time for you to give it back make that time powerful right and i never forgot that and i- i mentor a lot of people. Now when i'm fortunate enough that people engage me so i mentor it in different ways. I you know. I've never told my friends or my family how to live. I just show them how to live. So rights impact in that. I make myself available and play stuff like this as an ammash to to the people who have helped me and then when i'm fortunate enough that somebody is brave enough just to ask me for time with me. I absolutely make that time for them. Isn't it amazing. The the things that we want in life are so accessible if you see them as accessible so you have a mentor that puts you in a position where now through access through his mentor. Ship you're putting yourself in position to learn the things in the hopes and the dreams that you want to have. And i think it's really important like Don't be afraid to go and ask if you would because they do like when the things that you are successful the money the house are off. The money is the least fulfilling thing i've ever accomplished in my life. Little it's a letdown. What is what you know. What really makes me happy is just you know watching my daughter. Seek things that it had. I grown up differently. Had i raised her differently. She would have she. She has bigger dreams and believes that life can be bigger than the one that i that i that my family was afraid to dream dream for and you know and then you know the the ability to give my friends and my my contemporaries an opportunity to have success in their life through the ventures that i'd put together you know that those are the things that matter the impact in the legacy that you leave behind. This is is really. I think what life is all about. You know as you get to the latter stage of life you start thinking about that stuff you know in the beginning it was you know i call it. You know The new money as you gotta go through that you gotta have all the stuff and then you realize that that's not really what it was about. Then it's like okay then life begins. Was there a point where that new money phase was there. Something tangible that you bought or was there an experience that you had. I experienced everything you know. I experienced everything that i thought i wanted to have. And then when i realized it was just a thing Okay and then. I got to the point. Where like fuck is this really all that there is. Yeah that was the letdown. Part like this hard for this and so there's this transition moment of really trying to understand. Okay what's my purpose in all this. Because i've had the benefit of meeting some vary you know wealthy people who have all life's comforts and they're miserable because they have nothing to reach for you know that they have nothing to attain especially the trust funds like i mean god it's like money actually can steal someone's purpose causing believe and it. I would rather start with nothing and grow into it. Then be have everything and not know where to go right. It's a lost feeling in. And i'm just grateful that now part of the reason why i wrote that right there was just. It was for me really. What is what is it about me right now. That makes me tick. What is my human condition that makes me obsess about the most insane things you know but in at that's my superpower but what is it and why is it here. And what am i going to do with. They're going for. So what drove you to create. So you know my prior company my partner and i started it in nineteen ninety seven and we grew it from just two guys with a dream in a small little office to you know. The largest privately held home equity line of credit lender in the country Thirteen hundred employees a major impact on you know a major firm within the financial markets And i learned how to grow a large organization. Deal with scale like that Then we were being acquired by capital one and then the financial crisis it. And then i spent the next several years dealing with the transition from the two thousand eight crisis into two thousand twelve You know when. I decided that i wanted to Re enter the marketplace. It was a situation where like okay. We'll what what marketplace are we going to go into. And i said you know the first thing is just build infrastructure. It took fifty years to build country why it took five months to blow it up till opportunity is just get infrastructure there so when when the markets heal themselves than they were yanner. Credit liquidity starts to reenter the marketplace. It's going to need infrastructure. Which distribute it. And so. That's that's when pe- cma was born and then it wasn't up until the last several years will we've identified our current marketplace of private client lending. And that is our one hundred percent of our focus to to. How do you. How do you build infrastructure You just get the the means of getting all the corporate you know all the corporate functionality. All of your marketing all of your fulfillment capabilities get the of that bill. Get it ready for scale. I had to learn how to build scale on my previous company. Already knew what needed to be in place You don't have to be big in order to have. I call it know big boss capabilities but still have that independent and boutique approach or level was unimportant important. So when it comes it doesn't break. Yeah so when that scale starts to really accelerate it can handle you know it can handle the growth without it breaking. I mean we broke a lot of systems on the way. That's the only way that's the only way to grow though right. I mean getting back to being uncomfortable getting getting comfortable being uncomfortable. It's silicon valley failed fast. Yeah and and or break. It fast breaks how to fix it right. You know i guess you the benefit of eight nine years of learning how to be a busy learning how to be an employer. Yeah no had an employee Learning how to grow a company to scale learning how to understand your market and then communicate that not only internally but externally brand is a huge thing for me. you know. it's not. Because i'm a big brand guy. But you know from the standpoint of i understand clarity in your message of market. Yeah brand is very important. Doesn't matter what level of business you're doing because brand is about building community ultimately wise building community important for you so at it from the standpoint of it's very hard to get brands connection outside of your outside of your personality because there's three hundred fifty million people in this country right But you can but you can get brand connection if you narrow down. What is that you do in you. Give clear and consistent message on the market and the people that you serve not only. Does it help you because then you know how to rally your resources and then and then get clear. Consistent messaging pointed in the right direction but the community. You're trying to serve you know. It's hard to build that that that that bursts a followers but then your followers become your ambassadors correct right and then if you're fortunate enough to be in a place where you can get up a viral kind of approach sense about it at finding services not everybody grows running around telling everybody like what i got going on in my life but when you have products or services that have a viral nature to it. It's you must have clarity on who you serve. Then bill community ride those people. so who do you serve. Well for us. We serve rich. People you know the massa fluent net worth is a very unique audience They have a certain method and manner. Which they they carry themselves. They wouldn't be where they were unless they were that way. There's just There's just a certain manner posture that they have that you know when you really understand them then you can serve them the way that they want to be served. They're not pretentious in any way shape or form sure. It's just hard to get their attention. Because sony people are trying to get their Right so you know. The luxury brands from the luxury product category. You know we all think that they know how to a lotta times night. I would say eighty percent of them really. Don't know how to communicate to them. There are some that do because because really understanding like for me. A brand is not just your market. Not just your positioning statement. Not just the way it which you package it and storefront it it it news way beyond that it's how you hellish How did the people connect with it because reason why things go. Viral is because people are motionless connecting with your brand and your brand is not your products. Your brand is your story right. So you know being in the private clients. Space offends me when people say on the mortgage. I'm not in the mortgage business. I'm in the experienced business because my clients don't need mortgages and they won't like there's nothing that's going to get them to be wild or unexpected about what i do because they've been doing mortgages for four decades and i don't sell mortgages i serve clients so what i do is i spent more time talking about them and less about right and i've gone through this process over the last several months of really you know i've learned how to build brands and developed my own my own approach to it and the one thing that couldn't get my head around and i studied it up and down a note that i have a great team people around me that have been in this business for a long time and i couldn't answer the one thing i go. What is it about the human condition that makes us aspire for those things. What is it about the human condition that makes us want those things. Therein lies the the the the story or the the ideology at at at the at the seoul level in order to build a bit. Louis vitton luggage literally thinks it's a travel company. Yeah so what is so many people connect with it. Because there's something in there how they package it that connects people emotionally defined anywhere in there. Were they interpreted. What that hits. You can't rolls royce. Same thing apple same thing apple same same so get past the past the products get past the packaging. Get past all that. Why do we want it so bad because we want we want to we. We find so in that process. We started developing like oh it was we aspire for things where we spill where we feel special and no chanel labels everywhere you know. A lot of that stuff is cultural. They use the labels to classify themselves not pesident work in the field. Like they do that. That's not what i'm talking about. What i'm talking about is what is it. Why do we all want nicer things. Why do we aspire for those things. It's because those things somehow represent way that at which it makes me feel with in a manner that that honors me makes me feel special and recognizes my accomplish my compliments in in my inspiration lifestyle. It's interesting too because you're in a difficult position because ultimately you're solving problems for rich people. You're solving financial problems for rich people. So it's an oxymoron. A sense that why would if a rich person have a financial problem but it goes back to your experience in mortgage your experience in banking understanding that people in high net worth having problems getting loans for these houses that they wanna purchase or these other residential asset. Because the reality of it is is like. There's no one like us right. Have private banking but even private banking does a poor job at it because when you get to that level of well the financial markets are there to serve them like. Nobody's business when it comes to managing your money when it comes to managing their debt. There's no one there and there there's a million mortgage companies out there but they don't but they are not capable of serving the complexities of these states. Right so these. The private client community is stuck in this gap where they have plenty of financial wealth management services but when it comes to you know a financing their commercial or a real estate investment portfolio or their states There's very few liquidity sources and there's very few firms that have the intellectual property capabilities demon even understand or feel comfortable talking to them in a manner that represents their needs sure so you talked about brand ambassadors and understanding that it's not about taking care of the masses it's about taking care of those first community members those first people that become your community ambassadors. Can you tell us a story. Obviously about somebody that you solve their problem. They're complex problem. The the issue that we face Is ito thirty thirty. Two percent of all. us households Would be classified as massive fluent. Work two percent really. That's a high percentage. I mean just look around you. Yeah i mean it's everywhere now now. You're united states. Yes okay now. This it could be A household that owns A dozen franchise outlets worth twenty million bucks. And and you know they've they've they on a nice house and they've accumulated some some liquidity and some equity in the home and they've been fully vested in building their enterprise. So i'm paper. There were twenty thirty million bucks but they might only have a half million bucks in the back so the wealth management platforms. The the morgan stanley's jp more. They're not even gonna the they make money. Managing large sums of money I what's a large sum of money to those firms. Twenty five million plus now when he sells his when he sells his franchise empire for twenty million bucks. All of a sudden. His phone won't stop ringing. Yeah but until then. I help them manage their while. They're in wealth accumulation phase I help them manage the the estate through the liquidity the leverage phase. And then when they when they moved to preservation and they sell off the leverage and get rid of the risk and then they move into wealth preservation phase. That's when i helped. Hand them off to the walkman but platforms so in the beginning trying to get trying to get the private client community. Who have very little places to go to manage this. It's really hard to get their attention because they stopped listening along after right so for me. It's building a relationship one client at a time. It's like it's like melting the iceberg one drip at a time. But once you get the hamble those people and then it then they create a review or it starts to organically grow that momentum and it you can't necessarily narrow down to one single person it's just your business starts to season and tenure. You know it all it has this compounding effect in multiple masters style. I got a guy. I got a girl principle. You get some referral Like how'd you do that. I got a guy you gotta call. John and the private client community is very much like that or the viral community is very much like that right like i got this. I remember the first time when my creditors me too. I was like this is the coolest thing ever you know. He made me set up my credit card and everything. Now it's like everybody uber's but i'm literally remember at a barbecue him. Yeah no reason to even introduce uber to me. Wasn't even looking. I wasn't even looking for arrive. When that's part of when you get back to brandon you get back to storytelling. It's the greatest brands and the greatest stories that are being told are being done in a way for modern consumption. The thing we talk about on this podcast because the attention is on the smartphone. it's on the internet. It's on all these apps. I mean my wife and i. We purchased peleton bike. Why did we purchase peleton bike because on instagram stories. Some of my best friends them in their wives or posting about how much they're loving their fucking bike and next thing you know. I have a bike. guess what. I'm posting on instagram store. I'm selling peleton's to other friends of mine literally. That's what a strong brand can do. And it sounds like that's something that you guys are building. I remember when this was a phone. The mobile device. Yes he attention device correct and even though this is not a major part of our awareness campaigning because of the nature of the client and the manner which i have to approach him in order to get their attention because they're not here yeah But the generation that is here. Oh yeah i mean. It's like the opportunity to be a storyteller is just unbelievable. And they're able to do it. you know. And not require all of this apparatus in order to put content emotion. It's simple as that we were. We were talking about this twelve years ago that this is going to change the world forever and it was still a phone at that time and think about it. You think tesla car. It's a mobility device. Correct right it is. It's a mobile device where the primary method of the application is mobility. But make no mistake. Ilan does not see that as a car. He sees it just like apple. Saw this not as a phone. It's it's an information portal. So you said that your clients aren't there. Even though i would argue that they are there. They're in different manners. So how the becomes how for the financial service model especially when you have such a niche. How do you tell compelling stories to get to where they were where they are Through a little bit more traditional media that ties in to were private client. Attention would be and make no mistake. We are evolving towards the social side. The traditional apparatus of what we've got going on is significant and so we've been rolling in the last part where we will put the ball on it will be the the digital side for sure. Yeah and i think because it's fascinating for me to watch what's happened. And that's why i'm so excited about the business that i'm in storytelling. It's from two thousand eight. I always bring up this on almost every podcast but on in two thousand seven was when the first iphone was released yet. And why is that significant significant. Because we're not far down the line. Where twenty twenty one at fourteen years later right but look at. How much has changed with the smartphone. The iphone all the attention has come what we can do as a small business as a barbecue restaurant what we can do and how we can get our message out just through social media but through our website yet becoming ecommerce platform making it easier for our guests to come. In by barbecue to order barbecued order barbecue sauce. No matter where they are in the world all of these things are happening to every single type of business. What are you guys doing to address the things back to time back to experience. This is this is why i care so much about digital hospital because i i have the confidence knowing a successful as you're coming in here and talking about the ship every businesses in the hospitality business. How do we leverage technology. And how do we leverage our stories to give those customers to make them accessible. How are you guys going to do that. So there's a fine line that i dance in the you know. We're we're an experiential business right so you know as a as an experiential business technology is a very fine line of how far you bring it forward because in a world being you know in in our world where ones and zero's is dominating all around us you know private client service will never be self service right. There's a reason why when you go to the finest hotels in the world and there's a red carpet when you roll up in a porter degree. Eu you know the day that you go into louis and you start punching buttons. You're gonna lose the louis vuitton brand because it's not special unknown if i'm if i'm doing all the work hundred percent couldn't agree more but the technology there to have the experience an efficient experience behind the scenes that doesn't take away from the human connection. Correct makes sense abso as far as the digital storytelling of that for us. Represents you know we do a lot of retargeting. I torture my client torture them with awareness. I'm not enough. Leg ran. But i'm subtle and i'm everywhere and so because the reality of it is is that i'm a big believer. I've been marketing for almost three decades. Now i understand the power of the sub conscience the subconscious. And you know we don't necessarily always see things at on the surface but the but your subconscious thousand times more sensitive to what's going on in your surroundings slightly trigger for everything right. We don't even know what language we trigger language from things that are approaching that us so for me i do. I do a lot of things that really. Just keep planting the seeds in their subconscious. So that when. I do come forward and i do get their their attention. It ties in the. That's when you get that like. Hey god yeah. I think i know that right. Like it's recalling that and you want to be that brand that's in the back. I think i've heard of them before. Because then there's the sense of credibility and trust built into that absolutely. Now get me over the wall. That's so that we can move forward. The i couldn't agree more. And i'm happy that you said that it's it's one of the things that there is. The fear of the digital side is that it's not about automation. it's not about technology replacing that automation. And that's the fear that i have when i talk about digital hospitality is were in the hospitality of were in the people business. Like we care about people as much is. We're emphasizing on bringing toast into our operations our point of sale technology to enable us to be an ecommerce company. We're still going to always be in the people business. Humans are the heart of technology. And unless there's a personalized experience but when you do get that personalized experience in you get it and it gives you more time yet and i don't care if it's time from barbecue. Which is a rack. Ribs is gonna take us five hours to smoke or if you're talking about how long is it gonna take for me to get money to close the deal for my house on the beach like that. Time is what's valuable especially you know. We just refinanced our house and going to use the app that you know my mortgage broker gives to me. Things are moving quickly. I mean we're talking about before. Like docu sign and what's happened without having to have a notary over and go through all these documents and what's what you're able to to read before i mean what is your. What is your plan for the speed. At which technology is coming especially win in a in something. That's as sensitive as high net worth transactions You know i mean i've been at the forefront of of developing a lot of the the the centralized fulfillment capabilities when i got into when i got into business in the nineties. I mean you. Everything was local. Your local real estate office local title offs local askerov's local mortgage office. Like you couldn't go into a shopping center and go buy your groceries at albertson's and not have a countrywide office right next door. And then we you know because of our capabilities in marketing and the ability to reach beyond a belly to belly referral relationship. We could now go. Direct we started developing centralized fulfillment capabilities and so. I remember our campus over here. Five minutes or mouth is right here. We that office supported the origination and marketing for forty three states within our country while out of that office where before you would have had thousands of locals everywhere and so it's not just in the technology it's also in the capability of hubbing stuff and the logistics and the speed at which you can move. It's made it more efficient. The manufacturing of services are are better and then margin compression as a result of that giving a better product and service to the client. But like i said to you before. It's i utilize technology to amplify the experience. But i don't but i don't ever ask my client to do the work a loved one right and so even when even when you say to me were in the people business. I go no. You're not you're the experienced business. So what is because it is the experience that creates the connection. What's the memorable moment. What was that That the blade company where they do that video and it was totally viral. Because it was so maverick and it was They sold out to like what of the big razor company dollarshaveclub. Yeah yeah. That was an experience company. They were not razor business. That was experienced Away okay with. Everybody thought. It was the video. No it was they. They understood how to create connection. And they use maverick marketing strategies to do that. And that's one component of it. And then the hard part would be how do you how do you take that guerrilla kind of approach and then the attribute it and all the other parts. What is their pr look like. What is the communications. Look like what is the product delivery idea. you have to tie it all together to make sure otherwise. It's just one channel is interesting video but it had if you're gonna put that out there externally you better you better bring all the nuances of it internally as well as make it part of your brand then you really get that that community and cult following. Yeah i couldn't agree more and gillette. I think it was you. Let them like. They knew they were such a threat. They bought them in shelved him. Yep yeah it's crazy. I know one of the things that's important to us community giving back you guys. Did something called california love dropped. Can you tell us a little bit more about that campaign. Yeah i mean you know part of my twenty twenty one Initiatives to roll out in a more meaningful way are humankind initiative here inside the firm to give my to not only be able to help externally also give my team members an opportunity to participate in giving. Everybody wants to give back. They just don't know where or how right The california love drop was a great opportunity. I mean wing and in the family. I mean i grew up on. Who's dish tacos and you know they've been such a big part of the action sports community member. I grew up in and When i when i found out what wing was doing with california drop i was just like i'm all in. How can i help. So we produced a television spot for them through our marketing agency. To funded the you know the campaign so that we get more awareness to the california love dropping than we sponsored I think a drop a week or drop a month. I can't remember those. Her first responders first responders all the any of the frontline getting the front line people. Yeah yeah i mean. I have a lot of friends that i call family. That were i mean from day. One on the front lines and we donate for them with friends and connections to sources in china or some of that. Pb that was really hard to get one beginning and we bought everything we could get our hands on started donating to the local hospitals. Fire stations stations all of that. Yeah it's it's interesting. When i went to bishops you know private school in the hoya in one of the requirements for graduation was doing one hundred hours of community service. And you know when. You're a kid when i was a kid and felt like we mentioned it felt like the tension felt like the worst thing we just wanted to get through it like. How can we go and go to the special olympics in. Just we're gonna go screw around but like by doing. It is what you said by doing it by going there. They know that they're planting the seed. And whether that seed comes to fruition. When i was a child or now when it's the forefront of my business it's the most important thing that we do is be a part of the community yet Why is it so important for your staff to feel that. And your team. Because i wish i could do more because i wish i had the time and i know that's an excuse but the reality of it is if i had it easily accessible to when wing and i met all in you know why because he he put it together. It was really easy for me to support it. He asked he didn't even ask we reach out to him. Like i'm all in like. How can i help right. yeah Because somebody was doing the work you know a lot of times. They would love people. We would all donate our time if it could be like less interrupt less disruption to our daily life because it's hard enough for us to find time so know for me the humankind initiative is just basically giving people multiple options at which they all connected all. I'll multiple venues of of different things that are near and dear to People and connect that gateway so that if they wanted to donate their time or donate money. How can i right. And it won't be something the company will push on them. It's just it's just three or four. Different lanes have for humanity or breast cancer Whatever it is that you that that matters to you and you wanna donate Then make it available to a community people Were the were. They need the support. I have the community. Let's disconnect the to. Yeah i think that's that's a phenomenal way to build culture You know it's one of the things that we talk about. It's giving back is so important but by It seems it seems egotistical to share giving back by sharing you can make a bigger impact. It depends on how it's done right always depends on the reality of it is You know we in order to. I always tell people i go. Look the are giving are giving it. My previous company was ridiculous like when we put together like during the holiday season we put together Other adoptive family for christmas. The amount of families that that my my staff adopted we had two semi trucks full of toys r. Lobby was it was full of taught like it was obscene and they didn't just adopt one three and four families in these. These kids would would write to you and what they want for. Christmas is saux pen and paper for school. Like it's heartbreaking and you know. I never forgot that because the reality of it was we put that together. We did not expect that kinda like a and what it told me was. Everybody wants to hell. Yeah they all wanna help. Just give them a a manner which they can and they'll do it in a moment and i'll do it more than you ever expect. Yeah it's something that you know we spreading kindness campaign. My business mentor david. Meltzer challenged his manatees to just make a small video of just helping somebody and we asked another restaurant owner. If you'd be willing to help us and we essentially pick feeding the post office because they are unthanked yell all the packages that have been getting delivered. My wife had a conversation with our mailman sitting on a fourteen hour shifts. But by by doing that by going and feeding seventy people that are usually unthanked and by putting it online by putting it on social media inspired others. That were watching us to do that to say. Hey i wanna help you back to. We don't have time where we don't have. The attention is there. We can help that call to action. It's by seeing somebody else. Do it by seeing the entire lobby full with toys. You feel compelled will who who did we adopt. What did we do. I think that's something that you know. All leaders and entrepreneurs and people are running companies. They should seriously considered because it gives a better culture. And you know i mean. My best friend is in mexico city right now. we This sunday fox and their long initiative called operation smile and they wanna feed a million children. Day that's amazing. These literally there right now and i'm just like me in however you guys need my help. I'm in you know. And i'm a big believer that you know government like people not government will take care we the people will take care of each other better than the system taking care of for sure right because we care about each other more than the system cares about that so for me that at this stage live going back to what is the meaning live. It's not fast cars. Fast women big houses. It's it's that it's that that human connection that you can only give when you care and you help right because when you help you get more you get more out of helping than you will with any material. Things couldn't agree whether that's whether that's suppor- kindness mentorship whatever just if you're fortunate enough to have attention or or somebody with a platform as big as meltzer like good job like you know but it's a fine line between promotion and contribution you've got it's gotta come from a good place So you told me not to promote your book. But i'm always do what he told me not to do is that's more disruption right but you can't build skyscrapers on swamp land as somebody that aspires to write a book like myself. You actually did it. And i wanna ask you what now this far down the road. When did you publish the book. How long ago. I wrote it probably twelve or thirteen years ago. I published it about four years ago. And what would you change about it. Or what compelled you know again going back to. I'm just evolving and growing. You know. I wrote that book. Basically for my daughter You know just so that she can understand how i think in like. Don't write the book to for for self promotion right for yourself so you have clarity and thought and then right if your kids so they understand where you what really makes you tick. Because all they see is daddy. Yeah right what you want to say like. These are the principles at which i live by. I don't always follow them. You know. But when. I when i'm on point and i'm on my game. These are the things that i go to. These are the principles that help me. You know i built it you know. You can't build skyscrapers on swamp land the foundation principles for successful living in life and business. And it's about like you can't build up until you build that base so the base of of all those principles Both personally and professionally before you can build skit before you can build up you gotta make sure those things are replaced otherwise it all comes crashing down. I i appreciate that as somebody that wrote a book with his grandfather. My grandfather we wrote his memoir spent about three years doing in published a self published than published in bulgarian. But it clarity of thought you know number. One is clarity of thought. But it's also it's a generational guest. It's something about legacy it's something about. Not only that. But you've put your ideas on paper now. You're as you evolve. You can put more ideas on paper. Yeah and i mean my next book a. It'll probably be written a lot better because arrive. And you know my thoughts about this this phase of my life or different than when i had that day of my life sure But you know it was It was it's hard ryan a bogus. Tough yeah especially when you're not rider. Yeah well i look forward to reading it. I truly appreciate the time. How can people interact with you. Lincoln linked is a good way to connect with me You know i'm on instagram. But i've just. I've never connected with instagram. So on a professional level linked is the best way to connecticut perfect stover. Our producer will put links in the show notes John thank you so much for your time. Julie appreciate you having a superior Incredible offers saying look forward to seeing. What you in your company. Do this year barbecue you got it.
Ep45 Steven Dossou
"I'm jim wills. And this is the art unknown podcast where we feed your soul with art arts. That historical capture of time freezes for you in jugs or memory. Happy the music in general is just. It's universal it's that thing that we can all connect over. I think that the today day is is what connects us to tour salts. Focus on what inspires you and like you up inside. And that's what's other people have queues. When i've experienced films that are transformative. I feel like it makes me able to understand the world. Better plan all gone on squad. Bed today on the podcast. I am here with a very very special guests friend of mine who i've met since i've been traveling and we are talking about a lot of stuff where we met through public speaking so today's podcast is going to be a little different. The art of speaking yard of transformation. Transforming yourself i think he's also an artist himself in many different forms that will get into we'll about his music career and we'll talk about his journey to how he got from where he grew up to where he is today. I am. you're a stephen su. He is the founder of transformational tv. And i am so pleased to have him because he had me as a guest. My wife and i as a guest on his program so in a way. This is returning the favor. But i really wanted to joachim stephen. Welcome to the podcast. Walk to the show. Thank you very much. May not so much made appreciate it. I must say though that i mean listeners. Not see why you're having the age of you but unconventional absolutely that we haven't right now. He's right in the middle of almost everybody and of numa highly stuck into interview like eminem. So it's gonna be awesome. Yeah i'm excited. We'll see we'll see how much background noise respects up to do it in an open forum. Because it's because the coronavirus all the conversations i've had over the past year have been in the through a screen or indoor and so the fact that we can be outdoors and we can be in the sunshine. Mixes it up a little bit. And and plus hopefully. Hopefully something environment will get picked up in our conversation but like to start the podcast out with and inspiration. I'm always looking for what inspires people. And i'm sure you've got money but but hit me with something and it can be anything a person. It could be a quote in the book a story something that you carry with you that inspires you throughout your day or threatening journey home. Tough question for the harm media your look man If you ask me what. He's pies me right so eastbound new defined is immense mental stimulus. That allows you to be more creating anywhere before right so anything that allows me to be more creative. First of all i'll say. I am driven by gross driven by growth rose our day. I'm i am. Inspired by growth leaves grope live to grow exactly like a three and nothing needs to grow right so so anything along the lines. That will make me be a person's than i was yesterday. We give me that much mockery. Ai is that absolute so anything along the lines of code in anything along the lines of of emotional audience anything along the lines of conversation that we have right now right. That's me that i mean. There are times when we'll finish the poverty speaking meetings right go home and they go like donald laura riding a right right mobile by microphone and boom by talk nonstop for me so if i could give you one thing that really inspired me gene. These groups grosci. It's true you know. This broadcast is all about growth. And i talked to more traditional artists in in a visual art or music film. But i'm always curious about what not not just what inspires them but used that inspire that inspiration is about growth in one form or another because that like you just said the definition of inspiration what you grow out you to grow. And so i. I love that. I love that answer Let's talk about your growth a little bit. We we met through public speaking group. That you organized before we get into that i want to. I would love you to share some of your story of how you got from like. I said where are you. Stephen is from togo. Do go julia. Small little country in africa prime most people listening to this podcast never had it before must It's an west africa west africa next to next to ghana and smashed. There's another country. But it's real close to cote d'ivoire the ivory coast because the united states is there another country smashed in there Well it's it's it's going to us west. He's togo ghana and ivory coast. Okay going towards the east east. Took obey nigeria. Okay panama's a country. Picking up in nigeria. So you're from this country. How many people who are into some people seventy nine people and we actually grew quiet in the las draw. Yes just about twelve years ago was only four million people are. Wow yeah subaru. Next so many children this rink. What i've seen if you this is rise up how much you know. We make sure that this government thing like hey we gotta make some more man. You just just become extremely active. What else if you will tell the listeners battering well i'm from rule. Listen jim nco gio making. When i spotted always t g oh right the reason. Why do spell that almost irritation. Jimmy's because he will have to mean the possible and greece of accused of tokyo athletes. Because nobody really knows where the country is right. This is talk you so i don't speak japanese. I'm not going to get is a of that. I mean the most popular language spoken vice and way anyway airway and sun is used to be a french colony ks so before world war two was german colony and after the world war. Two when all these dwayne to of france right so we have to speak french so france. Almost eighteen years live These studies in france and frighten french gang. Best way this way. I grew up. You know and my father. My father is bullying was what is to wives. Anybody told you this right abba what has to was. So i'm a family's almost like a country and you're at the resources of the of the of the country that not enough resources take care of then how much right and the same applied to soak you have the household then have the community or the village and then you have tau and being have the seaney and then you have the country right right. So so on a micro level the household but the macro level you get the country right so so. The sim with that applied to the country affect the family. Sure microlender exactly so happen. That took his country and now deal today. The basic salary that he's less on sixty bucks a year a month a month a month. American dollars okay. Can you paint a little bit more picture. Like and forgive me i know. Americans don't most. Americans don't really have a clear picture of america of africa especially black africa. Were sold this story about al. Everybody in africa's poor live in shacks made of tin dirt roads everywhere. They don't have electricity. So can you paint a clear picture of what you're what you're villager your town that you grew up in in your family what you grew up in well first of all i am and thank you so much for that question because Eat it hurts me for advocate. I know when. I wanna share the machine that you know. When when when when days view of that is pains in the worst. And i remember maybe go from norway that told me that she was twelfth and jill in at school laver stepping africa because in africa you know what happens as describes his crimes. Titu no or anything. We are more happy ride done a lot of income. Absolutely i've i've read. That nigerians are one of the happiest like the happiest country in the world next to like finland. Oh okay. I don't know that that's like jerry. And being one of the poorest countries the one of the happiest we have no reason we dance and you know what. I read out many exit. So i mean it's the pitching that is painted is not correct. Yeah i think so. He's not like everywhere you go. And then you see people naked and screaming order louis. No no not that right in my town. I grew up in the capital city. Roman jessica looming of the city of togo. Bright although we had power outages shirt right. I mean it's not as bad you know what i'm saying. He's not as bad but the truth. Is we welcome veteran. 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She weeks ago in also showed them some hitches off of university of looming right edge is certainly not conventional assistance. Should be calling. Daddy are gay. So so i just for whatever reason jim i cannot in how and why perhaps us because of how. We were raised because my parents were extremely straits right Maybe because of that but actress had be stream of being something better than what my catching up on me. Okay because having studied economics acuerdo some projections. That know exactly what country you're gonna make me and genius from the right and i looked myself my aspirations right. I didn't know what was what what i wanted to be. But i just had been me told me that i could be something. Better z. Confess this this goes back to the you said there. This goes back to being. The initial inspiration became aspiration. Exact to make yourself better. Yeah yeah yeah so what happened which it is also so yeah so i looked around and I mean. I wanted to going to a different country now. Offer me better opportunities. Grassley a us and all of that. I tried to america. And the i was okay. Tried you off was successful yuda So i let the white worse max best. Let's go and get loose teas onto the math and south africa popped up. Okay now johnny was to fly. They're not close not talking. Almost seven dogmas. Okay eight hours ten hours finding now at the time. I have my little hospitals that i will do again. Die assaulted by that. But if i had to save money to buy tickets take me of all almost saying yes so spoke to mom she winds gut some. That's what i should do. Dry tried at months so took a back. And i was like look and that was the best whether judy stuttered in that journey took me about eighteen months you go from one side of the continent of the net route An invite a wide foot. He wanted one matt's high judges. That's how you know and and for those eighteen months by how many are dead. 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Should i say it's that journey is is a key phoenician pointing antilock. Absolutely you know what. I'm saying that its seat in an inadequate quantity right now would say. So say yeah. That's a journey number. That's a definite journey to being who i am. Let's let's get burnt a little bit. You obviously made it to south africa. Once you got there like you. Had you said earlier that you looked at a map. And i can't get to the saints. I can't the europe. And i see this possibly feature for me in south africa. Did you know going there. What what the future would hold for you know. What did you find there that led you to the next step. No i didn't know nobody right. It was me and me me alone. When i do. He just rocking the country. Don't know nobody nobody myself. I don't know god right. So yeah rock of barry molyneaux. As soon as i crossed the border of zimbabwe into. Start off we go. The i want to go to random person asked him for the ran. Its parasites go round guy. Gimme china ran. 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In a shack of twenty dollars roaches and mice in white will but the because in that the little flower that you had to make like that daily porridge minimize will come eat any end of looking at you like what got off finally wrote him like out of when i started selected as a street hockey insane i had my own hawkins band or selling cigarettes data sheets bob and wanting that includes jim and a blessed and i think i am blessed that thank god for that. Is that my my tribe my passion regardless of how to seek consensus word and they've lost so a look up every day and go back to the street. Hawkins tammy that driving. That's good man. That's what brought you here today. Exactly and at and that wednesday afternoon. That's gentlemen subs. Hey look i like you i shoot. You know it's more comfortable. I've might have jobs. Atmos mara without was in walmart is our game was gone. Massmart bestmark. yeah okay so I went to see my friend pasta to hitler. 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Insult to yeah outselling babies that vacuum cleaner boy abdul el-sayed be you know even though i was a small town in south africa against some biggest stores leucopenia michigan. Yes and that's what in that company so we back up a little bit. Yeah you had some struggles. Sounds serious struggle. Obi time how many times you fall on your knees and like i can't do this anymore. And sort of give up to the higher power like this is not gonna. I don't know what i'm doing. Show let me hsieh's therm. You are so there. Was this come when i was working on this so working and sleeping bristles and security got even the work general worker or gap ron carey style. And all i wasn't it was a construction warehouse. Okay so manual labor work. yeah and Ona was west african news martin and yet to be very wrists racist white guy. And you'll knock me beat me. Punch me using suspension by yes and That saturday evening. He sent me alone. Gwen and and and offload. It was to start them. Offload more than ten ton cement in container off and put it back. Do worse rule nice. My body was any dude adding new. What's iraq after down the rest seaman pasta and the following morning kim back to the grayness in soon saw me. The first thing he did was knocking me. You think you are bloodied monkey. i'd read. That was my face my body boop boop boop dirt rats after that he's in mcclatchy didn't leave student. Adult had my bag would leave. Inaccurate does something like till bent. I hadn't even you know drop gm. But i even know what the man would down like cheeks. These in aswa very question us. What awesome so. Why am i to convince journey. I mean i know that my country's wa but it's not like i'm he's like if i stayed all right. How would how go hungry and died right right. Why have happened. Must have yeah. I said that cushion that the in an over answer. Gaza is run. That's what's of out and going. Whoa i asked that question because here your story you know. It's it's for someone from the west for someone from the us it's a. It's a story of struggle to get even to south africa and then once you're in south africa to get the place where you were a vacuum salesman. We have gone beyond that yet. But i know so many people who would have given up and gone back home with their w lanes and there's a difference like you have that inner fortitude of in dehumanized by by by racist man who physically mentally abused you. There was something in you. That drove you forward. Even that like the the hero's journey if you will at this point your hero on my eyes. Because you're you're driven to the edge of like. Why the hell am i doing this. Why am i here. What what am i thinking and yet you still persevere and that's the differences between the hero who they say that there's nothing wrong with fear but fear fear that leads you to give up is the ultimate failure whereas fear that you pushed through and find the courage is ethan success and you definitely took that second back where you know you found the courage to continue on and i'm just i'm trying to. I won't be able to do that. Are listening to this to take away from that. Set courage man. It's available to anybody. You know what. I'm wondering why you had it versus someone else. Who would have given up. Yeah yes we've been searching. Since carriage that go from into seattle dry yes right yeah and And yeah. I know something like emotional failures. Music offers something scary giovinazzo of because there are some things. I happen to their hearts. You not only in your solar plant but even us very you so for yama is just that like like you know this code. That says that benda breach you understand investment. That have always had burned the goddamn breach for grit. Yeah ben bridge taming what. I mean by bennie breeze. Butcher sat minister jition right. Were the only way for you to go back east to succeed. You understand the only way for you to go back east win the wall the enemies resources and build a new bridge. Yeah yeah he understand. Go back home. You know what. I'm saying so i was coming that the only real is going to go back home. He's one off my own flag ticket. And when i go home with ten suitcases for my family and provide from a fabric thousand at whatever cost. I was gonna chew z. You kip that goal in mind. This is what i'm gonna do regardless of what it takes what it takes in our go through a literal hell and high water to to get there and that's what you did. Yeah so so. It's then there's a lot to cover. And i know we don't have a lotta time to cover it so i want. I want people to learn more about you on their own but you went from being a successful vacuum cleaner salesman in south africa. And now you're here and you started. I met you through public speaking that. You said hey. I want to organize people who are here and want to become better public speakers and to transform their lives as we talked about earlier. Transformation how did you take that path. Look what i'm doing now is what's somebody will call diving in your area of gibson gang up nitin keeble allowing them to find their voice creating a space word. They tap into that old friend. You know where they become people that anybody knew. Yeah yeah that's what a stat and that ginks. I good accessories. When awards in my sales. Instead so fast forward. When i was putting the numbers in detailing vaccum pena sales job i got from winston come an area manager of and low over sixty people capital of the dallas and i kept the consciousness. Six months later became a regional manager. We dug into hundreds of people again. I'll couple of dollars of him for yes and again. The cusses and rach six months later became additional sales. You know so. We're talking big money right and i was like. He's been in charge of one hundred sales right and and decem drive. That have that that met me move from zip veronica going so maybe me again. I'm driven by growth. So i wanted something mo- and i always want. Let me ask you this real quick knowing the struggles that you went through to get to their most people. I think would have saw that as like i've made it. I'm successful. yeah but you did say that. Talk more about that like you. Driven to grow but menu made it yet your recommended. Oh yeah i know what i mean like. You had the money you were doing. Well you were successful. Why did you decide to give that up and start on newbath yet. Look and like. I said this is a cool. That's as that by dr mazda. The british your life is not death or buddy sleep a laugh without a purpose and when the say that again the greatest strategy of live life is not death is not as we may as we make it as it make it. Yeah but leave without a purpose yet truck on binds you. That's probably gonna be up. And who said that quote ductile mayes monroe. Who is dr mass monroe. Monroe rates arrested beasts. He's one of my mentor. Gay somebody i look at to He's he was also born in the bomb us that uber housing eleven siblings and he went down to rutta sixty five books. Elway trusted setting hundred and eighty five language. Well okay so he. He was one of the top people. We re the sheep and an an purpose prison. Brian wasn't preaching. Dr mass monroe. Check it out so all right So so so. I believe in that. Yeah it's so wonder purpose calling. I always say the practices than anything else. Sure purposes viga. Don how much money you could have the proper speed on what kind of job you will have. A high draft wanted purpose is cutting. You've got respond. Yeah right yes so for me. I've always been driven by purpose and prep was alone. Are right you can give me telling me on the last day right but it purposes colleen that lead was gonna spend pursue my purpose. Whatever sir sure so. Even though had all of that is the voice came sonning again that these young men this mall for you latte. Did you feel like you're getting complacent like like restless. Like oh this is more. I got to seek more. I've mastered this. It's signed to go something else. I gotta tell you this much. I mean being being that position is why chinese i mean get. Let's all right. So i'm not to say that i wasn't telling you i wash telling but i just knew that if i stayed my impact. Be framed roger. you have limits. Yeah yang in you that my impacts like how i've done for posturing four years. I mean. i've spoken now more than ten countries. Right wilkins more than ten thousand people in various more gruesome. when you're putting together my kids growing. Yeah so the stadium. You know what. I'm saying absolutely so so if i had standing the job i won't be doing things doing states. I wanna have reaching my books. Yonsei wanna to speak. I wouldn't have met you. We only see you ought to say so so so it's all about first of all staying away from the place of competence rafael leads to death. And what i'm seeing. I'm seeing like coffee. No you can leave the elaborate die relief right exactly so. He called his facts. You know. i think it's all about the balance the balance back around in an interview the even with me. He said balance with that front sexy. French jackson balance valencia. Yes we'll tell me so so today you talk to. You touched a little bit by public speaking written a book about transformation transforming your life at what point. Use it okay. I need to find something else. I need to grow beyond this being the manager of all these people in this vacuum sales physician. When was it that you re. When was it that you've found that purpose that you're seeking to to help others. Transform their lives. Look i got to tell you something right till today as he received messages from people have relatively boss osa missile land. You change that. You're talking about almost four years was rights date and look at. You wasn't you. I won't be way of today. Yeah you know what i'm saying. So that's why. I'm saying that what i'm doing today as coach and speaker as in will people to find the gift and trying to produce businesses. What i'm doing today. He's gifts to meet because comes out north traveler. All where i and. That's why i'm able to that so many people as doing. So if you ask me when it was i able to discern that that thomas comfortable for music. Transformation is the change of wants out to fall river from one which was not out which is the when in chains jer. The right and that inner change has to be perpetrator and the more that unites any spur up morning. Okay know what i'm saying. Yeah so what we do ask people leave. Our selves becomes less of the treat of mankind recycled via south that low self-esteem we leave ourselves becomes booth street meals which watts mixed stock. Yeah you know what i'm saying and when we get stuck this no more inner change destiny more growth right and when desk memoir enough growth. There's no outta growth so not that we can get a deeper breezy your story. But let's explore that a little bit again you know. I talked to a lot of artists. Both well established who've been very successful in their careers. But i also talked about a new artists and one of the questions i asked them is advice. They have for an artist. Starting out 'cause because you talked about fear. And i would talk a little bit about courage to me. That's those are two places where people do get stuff. So i guess my question to you is what would you say to someone who smoking whether they're an artist. Not but someone who's who's who's feels the fear who feel stock. Who feels the doubts. Because don't have now there's times in our lives we have self doubt and that's what i said before like what. How did you wish what's what would you say. Seventy nine asset fear of. I don't know what to do next right before he let me shed this ride. I did a guard the time to look at me. You'll be like how do you do how come you don't experience like you don't show any dowdell. Dino look is not that i don experience. I'm not a superhuman met. Araya and those voices you know the key to decide what would be the volume of those forties in as good. You know what i'm saying. Eddie want the volume. Or you wasn't johnny down because see as what i do is speak island coach and sent me those voices so i think in criticize me when i get off states. Those becca remind me that. I need to be better. Otherwise i become arrogant right now now now now now when you tend to learning a was his too loud. That's when you come what goes on so so so how have you get there. I'm coming there. They had heard third down but the same. So so how. How'd you so does bossi's singing the products of our belief system. Okay okay and the belief system assuming the product of our environment in complex. Yes what to say that when a sheep perception shift to thinking thinking shift to actions when sheep the actions she habits habits new character you bliss. Yeah right after so. This belief emerged from the sequencing is a circle. Sitcoms says gives you a new procession. The procession goes back to your thinking and then the action habits and he goes back to the circle again. So what that means is to disrupt that process of of megan's thinking of loss thinking of dallas thinking what you've gotta do y- disrupt the creates a new set of evens that keanu processions find the right people around you. You know what i'm saying. People elsie you even though you s see see us forest. Yeah you know what. I'm saying mason to mr tabs. Miami are free on youtube risk night. Bring something positive you should. Yeah you know what the key you go is. The key is to be consistent. that is the team. I wanna pack this a little bit. Yeah consistent so let's let's start there but said several things that they propped up for me. Ask something that. I learned ten years ago along the circle that you just talked about The echinacea far mckay thoughts if your feelings equal your actions equal results. I think the same thing to set a different way and took me several years before i really like is really comprehend what that means because our thoughts really do create the results and there's a process to go through that and the other thing that i that i took note of just now was the people that you surround yourself with Especially today in american south development. You you hear things about the product and the five people that you surround yourself with. And i think so very true you know if you wanna grow surround yourself with people that are where you want to be. You know A great analogy as tennis when you play tennis. You know if you wanna play tax refund and just bat around friend. That's great but if you want to get better at tennis you play tennis with someone who's better than you because they're going to push to become better tennis player and that's that's true in every aspect of light if you wanna get better at something. Find someone who is better do. They're doing what they're doing and learn from them. Learn from the people that want to grow. So i think i think i'm just basically saying i've everything you said in a different way to repackage it for people but i think there's an important point you know. Be aware of what you're thinking right because that's going to raise your feelings your actions and results the via work even before what what you think the at were of where you only product of his environment then the believed the hobbies the things in peak of beating them up. Remind the hour of because the parliament's be even the procession in the position the give thoughts so even be a wife for support of your barrowman there. Yeah yeah he understand your environment. How would you like that. That's good that's good What else do we get deep on here man. We've gotten we've gotten pretty pretty deep. Yeah tell me tell me Why so a question that. I asked the that the traditional artists that i speak to why we should care about art. I'm gonna reframe that for you in that. Why should we care about transformation. Why should we it transformation. Well i mean if somebody has joined the vodkas fan translation. One time all right that is the change of our to fall from one which was to another which is the result of a chain dot means that for the altitude change. The has a chance. Yeah and when the out when the enough changes for the better the outer to this better just mission needs to be a will lack in. You shouldn't be something we do today. It's not even listening to be something do every single day. Rally up pushing yourself grow one more liberal. Every single day. I out our environment. The world outside of us can also change the way we wanted right right right so sir so so you can tell me today. Somebody can tell me to that. I don't have the job of my dreams. Somebody can tell me. I don't have the wiper dreams. Somebody can tell you today that i'm driving the conference room. Somebody can tell day that. I am not in the area of gift in that. I'm distinct. be the mazdas being transformed off. Zehr yeah have you you change. You changed your inner outer chains. You understand have you put in some work at you gone and gotten the books and the ad into it and you know who the monarch's into your head and you find the right people that you can count beyond that that will ease by drag you taking to one once. Beat you change the ina. Let's let's let's bring this to the artist. Because in america you know the typical sort of path. Today i think is you go to school for eighteen years and then you go to college for four to six to eight years depending on what profession you want to seek and then for many people after that they get a job they get married. They have kids and a family and a career. If you will excuse me. I think a lot of that. Transformation sort of stops or a lot of learning that continuing education sort of stocks. If you will in artists know this best if you want to become good whatever your art form is whether it's music or visual art door acting on stage like you have to constantly practice your art you have to constantly refine your That's the only better. And that's so true. I think in every aspect of life. And i think it's most true in the one area that many people forget about and has their own personal growth and development and you. My friend have dedicated yourself to becoming a master not elliott transforming yourself but helping others to transform their own lifezette. What's what's one thing you could say to someone that they should do. Who feel stuck so so that there are some questions that you ask yourself okay and the first question is what did he is that i need to believe. What do you mean now. Listen let's write. The question is what did he needs to believe to believe stock. What is it that. I need to believe in order to believe that i'm stopped. Yeah so you're suggesting that. Many the not stuck they just believe stuff the question when the question is joining as unpacking what is blocking them. From being cy yeah for sure you to snap l. What ease that. i'm doing. Guess mickey me thinking such an wait that was creating for me. A second belief right. Bravo me to leave a laugh batty. Stock right right. Not it's it's going deeper than just Stuck at this place. And i don't know why what is causing me to believe that i'm stuck in as play zach. Okay okay. yeah then then then part of the answer to that question. He's major king one of the foundation of transformation. Okay right and then the next would be if i were to transform today if i were to become that person prisoner wants to be howley impact my own life and how any impact the peak around me because i was wondering about you rienscher. Young fruits is his in a mode by dreams into my buddy right. Yeah right your gift is not here to serve us it. Serve me yeah you get them. Say oh you're babbling. Somebody so if i were to step into that role where i'm seeing myself wife. Think what. I have a hunch that howley impact me i'll be in how we were special. K and cushing certainly. Is that place where i want to go along. The purpose is it aligned with my purpose allowing my wife said no my purpose though purpose. Melanie help you find your birth. Lose my twin. Do mostly put in your life or what they find a day. You -able defined why reservation. Each amanda knows his wagon. Join anyhow. i you gotta find your y. Yes sir. I like something else you said about the fruits and i don't think i've ever really thought about that way. Because in my personal development myself growth. It's a lot of you have to develop the roots to grow the fruits right like you have to get a really good foundation. That goes back to the. Why get a really strong. Why grow those roots really deep and then you can grow above ground. You can grow those fruits. You actually took it a step further when you said. The tree doesn't eat the fruits someone announced the fruits. And that's taking those fruits and now giving those words to the world year in whatever form and i think that so i'm very important. I want to make sure that listeners did miss that part because for me the why the bigger y always come back to how can i serve. How can i serve in a bigger better way. Because as as most people know by now the more you give the more you guess the more you serve the more come back around to you know and so your why is not about take as much as you can and you're successful as you found out the as you're successful as a salesman you had a lot of money. You're doing well that incest why you had to find a bigger y you had to find a deeper reason for an and therefore deeper way of growth transformation and so i just wanted to kind of now that point. We will have like that. Why for me. And i think i've seen it time and time again. If it comes from a place of how do i serve. How do i take my gift. Grow my gifts. Conserve others it. It makes the white not only that much clearer but it makes it that much bigger than that much. Easier to to move towards. Would you agree with that. Oh yeah totally. I agree you know. It's funny to say these. The tree that has sweetest fruits right is the most famous dream in the village. Everybody wants to go. That is is is get out of the street through or has it. Oh enough settle. Early was hang out under the tree. Sure sure comfortable. It was the damage. The fruits awesome right. He's saying you see in the words that the lake right that that that has enough to offer is where all the animals rang out. It right right. You know what i'm saying. So what am i saying. Was that human being. Yeah what. I'm seeing by. That is when you when you find your gifts and refining and you sub the wealth. Then you'll be backdating freeze. Crosby that steve. The reason why. Michael jackson he's still on day because he he refined his deep. Nobody's business if you read marcus jackson story. Note that acid keyed already you are. It's ours gates and net one mediation in the wall that we seek deal today. That hasn't done move saints. Right is not everybody you know we still think about those people in. Music is a great example elvis. The the beatles only lasted for two years before they broke up and yet we still hear them. Today is be one of the one of the best bands in this century. They worked on her gift so hard. So so so. I guess what i'm trying to get to jimmy zags the purples you'll pompeo's he's aligned. Took gifts okay. Your gift is what enables you to cookie. Apartments Good duality yeah. So so so you ask me about. I don't my parents. I'm going to ask you. What are you really great. What have eased. Let you be on earth alone. What it is once you You know what i'm saying. And i say these people laugh at me but it's true like if the delaware to come today brench what would you find yourself doing. All you know sir. Sides an older stays right. What he's the one thing. I know they do want to be sticking to an empty i. Even they'll be to be hadn't my speaking new speech. My speech the devil get coming out. You get what i'm saying once believed in somebody about want to be called jim you on his bed when the earth is destroyed his breaking into. That's what i want to do that. Is i mean that's one of funky fad. Minute gift right. Sure sure so. So we've got to identify geese and west we find out what gifts and by tapping to mlive in and do anything growing we immediately. If you know what's best when see that the boy that has been able yes field. Yeah yeah you we talk a little bit about passion and purpose and I think even maybe had mentioned it once before. But it's something i have said for years. Is we live in an materialistic world. Especially in the west. You know it's always about keeping up with the joneses and making that almighty dollar and and hopefully were starting to move away from that. I i see more and more especially young people starting to move away from that and looking for that purpose because they found while trying to go after the paycheck was not fulfilling. And so the thing that i often say is if money was no object. If you didn't need to worry about money taking care of what is it that you would do. What would you do if you didn't have to worry about putting food on sable if you'd have to worry about close to dress yourself shelter in that's where you find your passion that's where you'll find your purpose but but jeez beam jim. I mean that's been the last time on probably group. I just didn't want to talk little bit. But i want i want to drop my my one in on that. Now when you say that and a new from wishes to sit at you agree right. But the point i want to eat the sizing that is not everybody is bone. We the same advantages. Sure yet some people have to worry about food gunnison. They have to worry about something. Some adults don't have right. You say right right now. Now what i say. He's even when you have to worry about food find gifts. That's what i'm saying. You just you just hit me with a little bit of like western privilege. You'd have to worry. About the way some enact that does go back to oslo hierarchy of needs of in i you need to find food and shelter and safety and you're saying while you need those things and while those things are vital and you and you can still find your purpose while you're finding food and shelter. Safety sat in the end. You should look beyond. Hey i just need aid today because if you look if you don't look beyond it all you're gonna need to everyday just find food. That's what you're saying. Exactly what i'm saying because if that was your case you would never left togo. You never journey to south africa. You would never end up traveling. The world speaking been able to get and hold onto the vision even went. Everything's falling apart. That's what i'm talking about her. I love that. That's what i'm talking about. The that is my mri stephen to so drops. It daddy's my missing them. One more time i'm saying being able to see and hold onto that vision even when everything is falling apart. That is what i'm talking about. Yeah powerful especially the holding onto the vision for like because when things fall apart we'll all weekly and How quick they saying like religious terms like always find jesus when things are shitty. Yeah we're life is horrible or your whatever. Your god is fine at the most when things are really bad. Things are great. You don't you know so it's in the same case of like don't forget your purpose hang onto it you. Would things go well or even when things go bad the purposes gonna drive you. Yeah awesome man. Stephen to sue. I really appreciate you sit down and chatting and talking about your transformation. I wanna say this musical career that we didn't talk about the arts in there. I am going to throw that podcast. 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People only two showed up right and spoke to them as he was speaking hundred people. S speech meant that attuned to dead at speeches driving my last today. Why appreciate them present. So while then see. I just wanna say great job. Keep it. Right is very inspiring awesome. Thank you thank you before we wrap up. I want people to be able to find out more about you and find out what you're doing in your your mission in this world. So how can people get haughty. All you gotta do is go on. Instagram is act steven. Actually be an undisclosed. Go so the double s or you. Stephen underscore dosu zero dubbed ask several s. Yes on facebook al goats. Ww dot stephen dot com. Okay all right. And and look. Here's what you're gonna do you. Don't wanna listen to this interview without going and grab a copy of my book. Arrive your book. My book is being transformed at ten. We judge a true south. You gotta go on beat from now dot com okay. All right Yeah go on. That book is free. 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Leave that someone's like you know what this is good. You haven't is the reason why nobody knows but outlay top five six hours every single day practicing really exactly. And you're right that's the key right so if you an artist think that you got something you doll own. Leave the rest crucible work. I love dill. Come when somebody with the right person who listen. Yes scuttle the you know. Even you share that with me. And i and i told you this that put a repeat still twenty times so i think it's odd man. It's fine we danced around everything so we're going to hear that on the podcast brother. I appreciate again. Thank you so much. And we'll against this sheriff. The song in this episode is of course deemed assu. The title is but toby vodka. Meaning pretty girl come in his native aiwa language. It's a mixture of a way french in english and as a special bonus head on over to youtube and search for stephen due to find a copy of the song. I promise you. You'll wanna play on repeat. 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Christopher Elliott Question Conventional Wisdom When Buying a House
"Needed a little tlc. But i didn't mind. We had some cash. So i was able to go and invest put new hardwood floors in new windows. Things like that so the year. Start to go by and i start getting restless. Because that's just kinda how i am and i'm thinking maybe we should sell a house and move into something a little bit bigger and different area. And just as we're having a discussion the bottom falls out of the housing market. Hello fellow risk-takers. In welcome to my worst investment ever stories of loss to keep you winning in our community. We know the to win in investing. You must take risks to win big. You've got to reduce it. This episode is sponsored by a johnson kademi valuation masterclass. They call it the boot camp for evaluation because it takes about two hundred hours students must value about twenty companies to graduate. It really is the complete proven. Step-by-step course to guide you from novice evaluation expert go to my worst investment ever dot com slash deals before march thirty first twenty twenty one to claim your thirty percent. Podcast listener discount fellow risk-takers. This is your worst. Podcast hosts andrew stotz. And i'm here which featured guest christopher elliott christopher. Are you ready to rock am ready so christopher is an award winning consumer advocate multimedia journalists and customer service expert known for his practical advice and creative solutions to customer service problems. He's the author of scammed how to save your money and find better service in a world of scheme. Swindles shady deals and how to be the world's smartest traveler and save time money and hassle. Chris is a nationally syndicated columnists the king features syndicate which distributes his work to publications from the seattle times to the miami herald. He writes a weekly column for the washington post and usa. Today elliott is the founder of elliott advocacy a consumer advocacy organization christopher. Take a moment filling about your life. I just wanted to say. I couldn't have written that better myself. I tried to say it is best that i could chew with my radio voice gray radio moi's love it. Thanks so tell us a little bit about what you where you are what you're doing. What's interesting in your life right now before we get into the big question well like everyone else. I am kind of trapped where i am bud in a good way. I like where i'm trapped. I'm in sedona arizona. I'm going to do something that probably. None of your other. Podcasts guests do. I'm going to swivel around and show you the view from my room. Fantastic see this is. This is wow. This is capital right over there and we're having a nice beautiful day little bit well. A little overcast sped looks beautiful. It is it is. it's so cool. And when i'm done with this podcast i'm going to go out hiking. I was just gonna ask you to get into one of the things in bangkok. I mean we have. We have a park nearby. And i'd like to go to it. It was closed for a little while. It's open now. But truthfully even when the park was closed i just walk around the block and ride my bicycle around the blogs. A lot less cars just curious you get a chance to get out often. I mean i know it sir saves my mind. Sometimes i'll hell. Yeah i mean being here. you know. One fact that you didn't mention is that i am a global now man. I do not own a home and this is going to be important later. On in our discussion. You'll see in a minute. But i moved from one place to another because of the amount of travel journalism that i do and we've been here in sedona for almost five months. Which is the longest ever been in place since i left my home and started moving so as you can probably imagine. We're getting a little stir crazy here so it's interesting. I mean one of the things that people are creatures of habit and we liked living in a place for a while because we know where everything is and we get comfortable with that and yet you change your environment. I guess you probably don't change. Maybe your immediate environment like the the computer that you work with and the system that you got setup of how you can manage your yourself personally or design even get changed all the time. No i mean the only thing gets changed. The computer stays the same. The phone stays the same kind of set up. Like the you know the lapel mic. That i use for interviews like this but everything else is. I'm a minimalist. So i wear the same clothes every day. The same like t-shirt. And when i do when i get all dressed up where this but otherwise. It's just same pants it's really. I fit everything that i own into a carry on and that is how i choose to live my life. And how does that just for the for the listeners out there that have accumulated a lot of stuff and they probably look at it and say. Oh my god this is. This is heavy baggage for me right now. But i'm just curious. How does it make you feel. Or what's the benefit for those people that may be thinking about moving towards that while i'm kind of skipping to the end right now of my worst investment but it feels amazing in liberating and when i did it when i really did it for years ago. It was scary on the one hand. Because i was giving up everything. I was putting everything that i couldn't take with me. I put some of it in boxes like my college degrees and things like that. And i put them in storage but even now all of those things have gotten down to maybe two boxes but on the other hand it was an emancipating feeling to just not have to worry about stuff and then taking all the things that i and putting them on a computer all the documents taking pictures of them and all that and i highly recommend it Being flexible like that opens up all kinds of great possibilities to you. Don't have to be tied down to one place to a mortgage to utility bills to really anything and the one thing. The pandemic has taught us. Is that almost any form. It can be done remotely almost not everything but almost. Yeah and if you're not doing remotely you need to figure out how to do it or find something else that you can do. I know i focused a lot on my online courses as one of the alternatives. But it turns out these great methods to share your ideas with the world now. I really feel like you're a good writer. Because you've opened up a loop you've opened up a hook. You've told us that you kind of get into the end of the story here before we get started which is kind of like an opening paragraph in a good article to get excited so i think we need to get into it so let me. Just ask you the famed question. Now it's time to show your worst investment. Ever since no one ever goes into their worst investment thinking it will be tell us a bit about the circumstance leading up to tell us your story. I bought my first house in two thousand one. And i had resisted for a lotta years because i just moved around a lot as a travel writer in as a journalist but i found a great place down in the florida keys is being in the florida keys. I was working as a writer and as a diving instructor and the price was right. Hundred and seventy five thousand dollars for a house in key largo. You can't do that today. This is before the big housing boom. I see you nodding there. You really can't do that today away. So those were the days. I didn't i wasn't making a lot of money and so i I paid as much of the mortgage upfront. As i could. And then got on a an accelerated plan on a fifteen year mortgage. I just the idea of being tied down to some data really didn't appeal to me. I know that there are people out there who say that's good dad. There's good debt and bad debt. I buy believe all debt is bad that i was trying to get out of it as quickly as possible. I just so happen that we also a few weeks after moving into the new house got pregnant. So are two bedroom. We knew was not going to cut it for very much longer. In the meantime the housing market exploded. And i mean it really really took off. It was the year to year growth especially in south florida was just phenomenal. So by the time my son was a year and a half years old we started getting very serious about selling so we did a couple of renovations on a house ended up selling it for three hundred and fifty thousand dollars which was not that unusual in that market. But what we did next was. I'm getting my mistake now. We took all that money and we moved to central florida and we paid cash for house. Now i have this aversion to debt so of course. We're gonna pay cash for a house if we can. I did not want to go to a bank and do all lap yourself this if even if we have a couple of years of moderate growth. We're going to have to make a lot of money off this house. It was a four bedroom house in the orlando suburbs and it was a beautiful area bows needed a little tlc. But i didn't mind. We had some cash. So i was able to go and invest put new hardwood floors in new. Does things like that so the year. Start to go by. And i start getting restless because that's just kinda how i am and i'm thinking maybe we should sell the house and move into something a little bigger and different area and just as we're having that discussion the bottom falls out of the housing market. And do we say to ourselves now just going to stay here for a little while longer. I had bought that house for two hundred and thirty five thousand dollars so i had little leftover to work with them. I figured i'll renovate plays dual landscaping. Maybe avenue new kitchen things like that. But i always thought you read these stories about every dollar you put in in landscaping is three dollars that you get back. No such nonsense. It's just such nonsense because one size doesn't fit. All there are people who do make a good return on their investment than there are also people who for whatever reason dump so this was we bought the house in two thousand four stayed in it until two thousand seventeen so we were in there for eleven twelve years or so. Wow that's a long time. Giving you know is now. We got stuck in that house which was made even more frustrating. But then i got to a point where unfortunately mom was not with us anymore and she decided to leave and i needed to sell the house and so i figured well you know. How much is this house worth. And can i can get some money back for. And unfortunately the housing market still hadn't fully recovered and i ended up selling the house for. I'm trying to remember the exact figure while the house was a a massive undertaking because we had several buyers that came in and fell through and then they kept renegotiating the price down so we started at three hundred and five thousand dollars and we ended up being negotiated all the way down to two hundred eighty five thousand dollars. Once the real estate agent took her cut and once. I started figuring out how much i had actually put into the house in terms of renovations and everything like that. We had lost money. We have lost a significant amount of money on that house. And i i made a resolution to myself that i would never buy a home as an investment again or i would never buy home at all for that matter but definitely not as an investment. It's just. It's a very risky thing. You're not guaranteed success by any measure but also what they tell you that the american dream and i know. It's kind of ironic. We're talking about it. You're you're not in the united states. You're in bangkok but it's nonsense. There is no american dream of home. It's an especially now. And i hope you asking me about that because things are changing so much now. That really buying a home from. I think most people is not a smart idea. Well i mean. I have so many thoughts going in my head but i'm just curious if you could summarize kind of the lessons that you learned from that i should tell you i don't have a prepared notes for this so i'm just speaking out the doing very well so don't worry about that. I think i think the lesson that i learned is to not listen to the conventional wisdom i really. I just kind of assumed that whatever was telling me that owning a home was the best investment. You can make that. You can't lose money off a home all those all. Those things may be true for some people always true. And not true for me. And i wish that i had listened to some of the contrary is out there and i didn't do that. I think that it was also wishful thinking that well. You know all these people are saying. You can't go wrong by buying a house so they must be right. I want them to be right. But you know. As i found out they were not Boy there's just a lot of that. Come to my mind about this. Maybe i'll share some of the things that that i'm thinking about. I is when my father passed away. I was going through his papers. And i found this one paper. Just one piece of paper. Where he he wrote down the first house he bought the dvd body and the price he paid and then the price sold it for and on the date that he sold it. And i went to each of the houses that he had as you know. He was a career employee at dupont and basically just looking at the total prices i would say he probably had about a two percent average annual return but that doesn't of course account for all the spending that went into keep up that house and everything so obviously if you're buying a house in perfect timing and you're selling it at the perfect timing that's just that's just an anecdote really of somebody that's done really well but that's not the way it generally happens so but it was just great the fact i could just read written out on a piece of paper and he was started buying his first home at the age of sixty outside of the in one thousand nine hundred sixty three or something like that so the second thing is i was thinking about buying low sell high you had just sold high and then what you want you did is eventually put that back into something but what else do you do because that brings us to this conventional thing. Which is this idea that i would say. It's like a marketing message now. Sometimes a marketing messages meant to sell a specific product but sometimes a marketing messages meant to just sell a particular behavior. And i think it's good for us to listen when we listen to things to think what is the. What is the objective. I mean. someone's making their voice out there to tell you something. They're spending time energy and all that to convey their message. What's in it for them. What is what is it. What is the message. And i think that message in america was that message of owning a home and and living the american dream and all that and i think you know for me. I bought my first home. When i was forty and i sold it very quickly after that never bought another one and the idea that i'm not attached to that gave me a lot of freedom in that way and i think also the other thing i would last thing i would just say he said america. Housing market is fueled by one thing that most countries don't have and that is fannie mae and freddie mac which are these secondary mortgage buyers that are buying loans from the banks and this is like a huge sucking sound at these organizations. Originally they were just built the Help the banks to manage their balance sheets when they have too many loans. They needed to sell some but then they turned into this giant organizations. That are demanding loans whether they're lower income loans or whatever and now all of a sudden you just had this huge government organization that is fueled by this and that doesn't exist in like thailand as an example when a bank makes alone. It's gonna be on their books for very long time so in some ways in some ways i wish that fannie mae freddie mac were privatized that private society business if there's a market for it they do it but that's a whole nother story and just fuels the idea of availability and the last thing is just the fact that this you said good debt bad debt. You know my niece. One of my knees just bought a house. Something in your in the middle of a crisis. How can you do this. Well money's free. How can you avoid going into debt when money is pretty much free of getting it. Let's choose three percent everybody's going to go into debt. Who can resist that. And all of a sudden we're in a another massive amount of debt for a lot of people anyways a lot of different things anything. You'd add to that one of the things that the recurring thoughts that i have as i look back at the situation and think how could i had been so stupid. Is that i really. I'm not a big believer in government. Conspiracies really do believe that the system is kind of rigged that there is a tax deduction for your mortgage that. There's this constant drumbeat of own a home if you don't own a home you're not successful. Buy a house and you have an army of real estate agents. Who are out there trying to sell you a house. I mean during the pandemic it's boom times for the real estate industry. Impossible got people who are out of work and you've got an economy in recession. How is it possible that home prices are actually going up. If you don't think something is wrong with this picture already drunk. The kool aid probably and i'm afraid that's what too many people have done that. They've drunk the kool aid. They assume that homeownership is the end. All be all. There's some social engineering going on where people the government is encouraging people to buy homes to upgrade into bigger homes to take out more debt. It's just not. There is when i look at this situation. I just see more wrong than right. There's an interesting book called hidden in plain sight and it's kind of the one dissenting voice on the investigative committee of the two thousand and eight financial crisis to the mortgage crisis and basically his argument. Which never really got heard was that it was fueled. The crisis was fueled by. Obviously i was low interest rates. But that wasn't the main thing was that the government was mandating that the fair housing administration was mandating that more and more people got access to loans which you know theoretically make sense but everybody knew in the banking industry from history. Everybody knows it if you if you bring in a million more people who have lower credit scores. There's a cost to them and rather than bearing that costs through the government budget. They decided that they would hide it. Through fannie mae and freddie mac and then you bring in a million more buyers when you have a million more buyers they're pushing up prices and so there's so much involved in it. But i think the lesson for the listener out there is an. I really like what you talked about about. Don't just fall for the conventional story in the narrative. Look at other other thoughts. Ask around find out somebody that's been renting and say why are they doing that one of the things about conversations nowadays people just say well you think that i think that we're on two sides but one of the biggest intellectual challenges is to ask yourself the question. Why does that person think that. Stop trying to defend your position. Let's say you think you're right. But why does that person think that way and then explore that and that's a mental challenge. It's very difficult these days. Because it's so polarized. I think we're on the same page. You and i on homeownership probably our maybe. Our positions are very similar. Since you have an own a home since you were in your forty s you only own home. I own to home so you would think that would maybe have learned my lesson. The first time around you know what i keep thinking is what if i had taken that money and invested it and even with the downturn during the great recession i would be retired by now if i'd put that money into the stock market yet and that's one of the things that i always tell. People that i talked to is just the idea that i have an investment in my coffee factory. Hugh in thailand. My best friend runs it. And he's got a great management team and every problem that comes up they are hustling to try to figure out how to survive and thrive and keep prophet going and keep growth going and when you buy a company in the stock market. You're basically buying a management team. And you're buying ceo when you buy many companies you're buying many management teams in ceo's that are trying to figure out how to make the company successful and beat the competitor and still be profitable and that there's just nothing that beats that from an investment perspective. I would always want to be able to own a piece even if it's a tiny piece in a great quality. Ceo and a great quality management team. And that's something that housing never can. Do i think in thailand. It's been interesting because what's happened. Is that first of all. They shut down tourism. So there's just a lot. Less people in bangkok second thing is that we had had a big housing boom now all of a sudden all the people that thought i was crazy for not buying a house because it goes up. All of a sudden was sitting on this huge surplus now of property in bangka and the secondary market ability. To sell those things is just negligible and so many of those people thought they may exit at a higher price but they ended up not and that's the huge part of the game that they were expecting in the housing market. Not that they were gonna earn income from it but that they were going to get a big gain in the price so sometimes when we look ahead it just never gets there with property prices. Sometimes it does sometimes. It doesn't well listen. That was fantastic. And i think a lot of lessons but let me ask you the second to last question. What one action would you recommend our listeners. Take to avoid suffering the same fate. I mean think about that person who's listening right now. My mom had a house on my mom and dad had a house. Their parents had a house. Everybody i know has a house like this house. I want to buy it. The money's there. I can get it. What advice would you give them would tell them to think. Think really carefully before you make that purchase. One of the things that i kind of hinted out was that the way that people work today is changing so quickly. Are you absolutely sure that your job is going to be in this place in a year in five years and ten years the way that people are working today with. You know we're doing this on zoom call. You really don't have to be anywhere to do a lot of the jobs that are being done. So is this really where you want to be. And if the answer is no financial adviser says if you're not going to be in one place for more than five years out by the house just rent because you'll have more flexibility. And i really wish that i have listened to more voices like that. I didn't have my financial adviser back then. But if i had i might not have purchased a home i might have put some of that money into the stock market so my advice would be to not. Just listen to the people that you know and that all have made the same investment mistake. Listen to some people. Maybe who are not doing that and find out why they're not doing it. And renting really is there's so many different rental options now as you mentioned before do a lot of travel writing and you can. You can rent places by the month. You can rent them for six months at a time for a year at a time. You can rent with utilities included and airbnb have long-term options now. So you could do what i'm doing and just always be in a different location and never be in one place for more than a month and that's kind of an exciting thing it's scary but it's also very exciting because you get to see a lot of the world you know you don't have to just be in the same place all the time. It's interesting because when you read older books you read about people and they say well you know they lived at this hotel like what you can live in a hotel everywhere. There's places that offer and nowadays you know you could imagine that there's a lot of places that so don't be afraid to ask is this. Could i rent this absolutely and you know what i've been reading this one newspaper column for more than twenty years called the travel trouble shooter and it i help someone with a what seems to be an intractable travel problem and there's this recurring theme that i've noticed is that people will about how they saved a lot of money in waited until retirement to travel and there's one big dream trip that they were taking and something went terribly wrong it and they want me to fix it and over and over again. I talked to people who have waited until they're sixty two or sixty eight to retire and travel and i'd like to just challenge your listeners and viewers to not wait until then to start traveling. It's a big world out there that so much to discover if you can sell your house rent your house to someone else get out there and travel. You can do your job at the same time and discover the world. Which is you. Don't want to wait until you're sixty two or sixty eight or older because you might not have the ability to discover some of these parts of the world. I mean it's not like you're gonna go hell skiing when you're seventy s so you know get out there. Do it now. Speaking someone. That left america when i was twenty six. I just got to thailand. And i just i was on fire and i have been since and i traveled all around and i just i personally love from travel. What i love most is kind of challenging my paradigm challenging my framework to walk into a country like china where i was told that is communist. This is bad this this and then the walk in and say okay. So it's been here for five thousand years or whatever that number is you know. We're talking about a pretty old civilization compared to let's say america where i came from. So can i. Mentally challenged myself to take off the framework that i've been given and what you learn when you travel more with i think is so valuable. Is the idea that really each country. Socializes their people with their own myths and beliefs. And and truth you know but in the end it's all you are a product of your socialization within your country because you can just go from one country to the next and thinking about things so differently and you think are people really that different. No they're not that different but they are given different thoughts and different. You know rate from the young age and so you know. I love the idea about travelers just to break my paradigm and say what i thought was good. Maybe it's bad. And what i thought was bad. Maybe it's good challenging your mind. So i think that's a big gain. I get from that travel aspect. I just wanted to highlight one lasting. And then that will close this out after about five hundred stories of loss and interviewing more than three hundred people identified six common mistakes. And i just want to talk about number three which is driven by emotion or flawed. And what. I propose to people in this. How how do you handle this. Well what i say. Is you find an explore and list out on a piece of paper opposing views and disgusts them with a knowledgeable and objective. Person he's a very simple thing. Get a blank piece of paper and just write down why. You shouldn't do this thing that you're so excited about and it's a it's a good way to kind of challenge yourself to look at the other side. You may still make the same decision that fine but take the time to look for the opposing view. All right last question. What's your number one goal for the next twelve months not getting infected. That's a good goal. Well then you should be in thailand. Because we've only had seven thousand infections. Seventy million people in only seventy deaths. So i'm gonna come visit you. Yes you're welcome in my mother who's eighty two and listening to this podcast. We would both welcome you for nice cup of tea. I think is what you're drinking so listeners. There you have it another story of loss to keep winning remember to go to my worst investment ever dot com slash deals to claim your thirty percent podcast listener discount on the valuation masterclass as we conclude christopher. I want to thank you again. For coming on the show and on behalf of a stotts academy i hereby award you alumni status for turning your worst investment. Ever into your best teaching moment. Do you have any parting words for the audience. Thank you for having me. I really appreciated now. Must stay nama. Stay saba de cop right. That's a wrap on another great story to help us create grow and protect our well fellow. Risk-takers this is your worst. Podcasts hose andrew. Start seeing. i'll see you on the upside.
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"Hey friends. A quick note before we get started. The last few months have been intense and stressful for all of us. I've been pushing through, but the exhaustion has finally caught up with me and I need a little break. The podcast will be on hiatus for the next two weeks while I take a breather. If you're new to the PODCAST WELCOME, I hope you'll take the next two weeks to dive into the archives. And if you're a regular listener, thank you for your continued support. please. Consider sharing the show with a friend. Word of mouth is the best way to grow and let all women now that they are normal and what they desire is okay. I'll be back with the next regular episode on September third. It's great one with a seventy, two year old woman who talks about how she always liked for play but doesn't enjoy penetration. And now. Let's dive into today's episode. Do you enjoy blowjobs. Welcome to good girls talk about sex. I'm sex educator and sexual communication coach Leah Kerry and this is a place to share conversations with all sorts of women about their experience sexuality. These are UN filtered conversations between adult women talking about sex if anything about the previous sentence offends you turn back now? And if you're looking for a trigger warning, you're not going to get it from me. I, believe that you are stronger than the trauma you have experienced I have faith in your ability to deal with things that upset you. Sound good. Let's start the show. Hey friends. The last few weeks have been really intense. As I'm recording this my partner and I have just moved into a new apartment where we have a little more space and I have an office an honest to goodness office where I can work and record this podcast and all the other things that go along with running a business at home. Honestly, for the last year and a half, I have been doing all of this from my couch and my bed. I can't tell you how excited I am to have a dedicated space to record this podcast and run my business though for the record I should tell you that I'm recording this episode in my car because they don't have the recording space setup yet, and cars can be great recording studios except for those Pesky, people like the person driving by right now, who use this time to access this street. So just fair warning in advance. There will be more background noise in this episode than usual. But anyway back to the move. One thing that I'm really excited about in the new apartment is that the office space has a David in it and it can function as a couch most of the time, but it's also a really comfy twin size bed. Of course that means that we can use it for visitors someday in the future when we're allowed to have as far as again. The even better, it means that we'll each have a space we can sleep then. So obvious question why do we want separate bedrooms? It's not because we're living in fifties TV style marriage where we're not allowed to share a bed a promise. It's because sometimes we each like sleeping by ourselves. My partner and I are both really light sleepers and can be kind of Tozzi and turney. And if I'm having trouble falling asleep, my internal guilt sensor is going to be telling me that I'm disturbing him which makes it even harder to fall asleep and he says the same thing to me. In the past that his often meant that my partner ended up sleeping on the couch as often as he slept in our shared bed. And the couches fine for sleeping, but it's not a bed. But it's more than that to there are times when I just WANNA fall asleep on my own now because I don't love him but because I value my own space to. In fact, having some alone time allows me to be a better partner to him. Rather than being an indication that there's trouble in the relationship I actually think having the option to sleep separately can be the sign of a relationship. We won't be sleeping apart all the time maybe a couple of nights a week but I love that we can do this as a proactive choice rather than because there's a crisis in the relationship and someone has been banished to the couch. I actually wonder how often some couples unconsciously manufacturer crisis just so they can get some alone time. If that sounds like something you've done call the response line at seven two zero good sex and tell me about it. I would love to hear that story. So. That's the news from Casa, good girls. Now, let's jump into the episode. Today we're asking the question. Do you enjoy giving oral sex? For, our heterosexual friends that means blow jobs for our lesbian friends that means Kinda lingus and for everyone else that means a smorgasbord of sexy fine. I'll be back with own answer in a few minutes. Yes, I enjoy both of those things. Depends on the person. But yeah generally. I actually do. I've been told I'm very good at it. So I think you kind of enjoy doing things that you're good at and. So true. Like am I suck at US stocks I, do have a gag reflex either which is super helpful. But. Yeah. No I enjoy I don't I think it's powerful like I have their Dick in my mouth like. I am in control here I, know that some people think it's like demeaning or whatever I'm like, Hey, I'm like completely like for me it's kind of like I'm pretty powerful gear. Ask Oral as I used to be, I. Still Love to do that. But if I'm sufficiently warmed up I, want to do the. Really hard. High to talk about. Yeah with a partner that I trust I, do I, do I love it I do now. Like I said, there's something about the chemistry between me and my husband. That's just awesome. He's the only person I've ever swallowed. even my ex-husband never nope. No. I would avoid getting him to that point 'cause I didn't WanNa anywhere near my taste buds but you know my current husband I will take him all the way. It's not my preference but I enjoy doing that for him not somebody can just dive into it but if we've had some four play I if I like the person, I really like to do that with men. Women? Trans. I've gated trans people too. So now officially pan sexual I don't like penises and they don't belong on my mouth like you you wanNA touch it on. No. But I really really really like. Oral Sex with women like a lot. I do when I'm with a partner who I really enjoy being with if I really like the person that I'm with and I really enjoy their body and I really enjoyed. It is really easy for me to enjoy giving them pleasure and enjoy their Dick in my mouth? But otherwise I, I, feel like I pretty much do it is like a warm-up to get them ready or because I know it's going to feel good for them not so much because I enjoy it I love giving blow jobs. I. Love Giving Blow Jobs I love giving oral sex like I will request that I get it as much enjoyment out of that. As I do with peanut Zimba China's sacks or whatever. Yeah. I. Love It. I, especially like watching my partner's face. If I can when that's happening because. I very much enjoy seeing them enjoy themselves. Do you have a preference between giving oral sex on the peanut vs on a vagina. Yet No I. Think I, probably prefer it prefer penis over. I don't know why. Is You asked me another day I might have a different answer but today. Yes but I do have team Jay. not very often anymore the smell and the just the sounds women I love that you know what I mean like. I. Love that and so I'd love the whole thing now. Do you do it anyway. Rarely. What don't you like about it? So many things. I strongly dislike Cairene semen in my mouth for one. So that the like do not come in my mouth please. To be honest like the big thing for me is that my job gets tired. And I have a very tight jaw to begin with. So. It it takes a lot of work and it's Berry physically uncomfortable for me to give Pearl Sex. Also my gay reflected real strong. I have previously vomited on someone. and. He still wants me to have steph faster. On Your Dick. Yeah in Love Oral I light blowjobs now. I. Didn't for a longtime time what has changed my ability to negotiate more with my own body and to not. Feel pressured to do more performances things. Professionals. Do I think I know exactly what you mean but for people who are not familiar with with what performance means? Can you explain that? Sure I mean. I mean that. When? I think of some ways to have sex some ways to give blow job it is in in line with what you would see in your average like or that you would look up on the Internet a lot of deep throat coating a lot of. Hair. Holding the back of the head making people gag. a lot of fast fast rapid hand mouth movement zero to sixty kind of like there's a Dick in there. It is all the way in your face which is wonderful if you love that In. On occasion that's Nice for me too. But it wasn't and I have like to talk about when you have a really strong gag reflex. So it was. Difficult painful to do that and and I would anyway I would say, yes and I didn't really want to do it like that and it wasn't until I learned dial. In have experiences where my own body was taken into consideration Then I was like Oh. This is oh Started telling my friends who who had always been vocal about loving blowjobs like I'm starting to like it now. In But were getting pussy always always the moment that I was lucky enough to have. A partner with a policy that would let me. I. Was happy to be spending lots of time there. Okay my turn. I have to admit I'm a bit agnostic about genitals both penises and Volvos. I've never met a set of genitals that I immediately thought. Hey, I wanna get with that. I've become more interested in interacting with someone's genitals after I've gotten to know them and an attractive to their whole person. For instance, it was at least a couple months after I started dating my current partner that I finally became enamored of his penis. Before that, it was just a thing between his legs that needed to be dull with. I know that might sound weird coming from someone who talks openly about sex as I do. But my own business isn't about loving. Every single aspect of sex. It's about realizing that I'm allowed to like and dislike things. It's about realizing that I've got hangups and I don't need to be ashamed of them. And, it's about realizing that some of my desires are contradictory and that's okay and normal. And one of those contradictory desires is sometimes I wanna have sexy times with someone even though I'm not really interested in interacting with their genitals. But a few months into this relationship, a switch flipped inside me and I wanted to interact with his deck. And it's quite possible that it coincided with the day that he brought home a little gift for me. At the beginning of our relationship, I told him that I don't swallow. I'll tell you more about that story in two weeks when the topic will be do you swallow? That wasn't a problem for him. So I'd occasionally go down on him and stop before things got too hot and heavy. Then one day he came over and told me that he'd gotten this little gift for me. He was clearly excited about it. So even before I knew what it was, I was excited to. When we are getting down to business that night he pulled out a package of non lubricated, tasteless odorless condoms. He told me that if I were up for it, we could try using them during blowjobs. WHO's really touched by his thoughtfulness I was also kind of nervous that giving a blowjob with a condom on was going to be really unpleasant. I'm sensitive to taste smell texture pretty much everything. But as it turned out, the condom was perfect and we still use them regularly. For those who want to try them out I, recommend non lubricated trust dex condoms and there's information in the show notes. Now, that I'm deeply involved with the man who is attached to the penis and we have the protection in place that keeps me from having to deal with. It I. Adore Giving Him blowjobs. And, there's another factor in this current relationship that has allowed me to embrace blow jobs and that's my partners feedback. There's a lot of cultural pressure on women to give a great blow job. How to give a mindblowing blow is a regular feature in COSMO magazine and other women oriented outlets. But between being agnostic about the genitals that I was interacting with and my fear of having ejaculate in my mouth, I could never really relax enough to feel good about what I was doing to a partner's penis. For the most part I got very little feedback from my male partners. But there was one boyfriend of course who actively told me I wasn't good at it and asked me to do things that I wasn't coordinated enough to do. There was sucking and twisting and pulling all involved at once and I didn't WanNa be down there in the first place. So it's no wonder I couldn't get it all sorted to his satisfaction, but my current partner didn't set me up for failure. He told me right up front what he wanted he asked me to use more tongue. I wasn't really sure what that meant but I tried something he gave me positive feedback. Then gave me a more specific request about the location to use my tongue I. tried it. He gave me more positive feedback and that's how it's continued. We've been together long enough now that he doesn't need to give me basic instructions anymore, but he continues to give me feedback. He gives me groans and noises that let me know he's enjoying what I'm doing. He tells me when he wants it soft and slow or when he wants it harder and faster. And he regularly tells me that he loves my jobs. Which means I'm no longer in my head worrying that I'm doing a terrible job because he lets me know that he wants me to keep going and that has made all the difference. In, one more note before we move on. So far I've only talked about giving blow jobs penises, but the original question asked about giving oral sex to penises Volvos. Now, there's a story out in common mythology that if you're a woman, you'll automatically give amazing oral sex to other women because you know exactly how things down there work. Let. Me Tell You folks that should is complicated. Every time I've been down there on someone else's Volva. I have been completely perplexed about what to do and how to do it. This is completely separate from whether the woman on the other side was receiving pleasure. I've had a couple of women appear to have orgasms from my oral ministrations. But I was so tense and unsure of what to do, how to do it where to do it that I can't in good conscience tell you that I was enjoying what I was doing. And given what I know about how often women fake orgasms just to get something over with I also can't guarantee that the women receiving oral sex from me. We're enjoying it as much as they appear to be. So in answer to the question do I enjoy giving blow jobs oral sex? My answer is It's complicated. Remember, how fun it was to have teenage sleepovers where we do each other's nails brady. and gossip about kissing and relationships. I'm lucky because I still get to have those fun juicy conversations on a regular basis. But I know that a lot of you may find it hard to make the time and space to have these intimate connecting conversations with your girlfriends. So I've created a space where you get to have that same fun. Again, it's an adult PJ party. It's a whole luxurious evening of girl. Talk. I'll lead you in a no-holds-barred conversation with your girlfriends talking about sex relationships, toys, kink Orgasms, anything you can think of we can talk about it. Even. Better. We'll do it in a way that preserves social distancing and gives you a night of connection and intimacy with your favorite people. Or if you'd prefer, join a group where nobody knows each other in advance. So you can be completely open and honest without worrying about revealing too much to people you see every day. So, let me help you create a space where the conversation can be easy sexy and fun. Visit Lia Carey Dot Com forward slash PJ party for all the information and to book a party for you and your friends again that link is Leah Carey Dot Com. Slash PJ party and it's in the APP you're listening on right now. For this week's I normal question, we're dipping our toes into dating someone who has poly-amorous am I normal am I. Am I normal my my mom mom. Another woman I'm really into and I'm so excited about her The only thing is she says she's poly-amorous she has other partners and I've always been monogamous but she and I are such a good fit just in every way I think it can work. Crazy to believe, I might be okay with her sleeping with other people. Is this normal? Dear Listener. Wow. What a brave question and an exciting time of exploration. There are a lot of layers to this question. So I'm going to address a couple of them and invite you to call back if you need more guidance after that. Is it possible for a mixed monogamous poly-amorous relationship to work? Yes. I've seen some of them work. Is it easy. No. This type of mixed relationship takes an immense amount of communication because they're going to be different rules for each member of the partnership. And before you even get to communicating with this potential new partner, you need to get honest with yourself. So here are some questions to ask yourself. Do you understand the type of poly-amorous that your potential partner practices? If it's hierarchical meaning that partners have relative positions of priority in her life. Under stand where you fit in that hierarchy. Are you comfortable with that placement. If she already has a primary partner. Are you comfortable with being a non primary partner if you're going to be the primary partner? will she be pursuing other committed relationships and or will she pursuing other casual relationships? Are you comfortable with the idea that she may still be actively dating New People? Assuming the two of you get involved once you've gotten through the rush of new love and are settled into a sort of stable relationship. How will you feel when she meet someone new and goes through that new relationship energy with someone else? Is your core stable enough to watch her having that new relationship energy with someone else and not wreck your own sense of self esteem and desirability how much time and attention do you need from your partner in order to be satisfied in the relationship? How much do you need to know or not know about her other relationships in order to feel secure in your partnership? So, let's be clear. It is absolutely possible for someone in an open or poly-amorous relationship to cheat. In this context cheating means violating the agreements and boundaries agreed to by both of you. Being poly-amorous does not mean that your partner has carte blanche to do anything with anybody unless that has been pre-negotiated. So, what boundaries do you need to put in place to preserve your own sense of security and dignity? This might include whether or not she tells you before having sex with a new person. This might include whether or not you have veto power over her new partners. This might include whether or not she's bound to use protection with other partners. This might include whether or not their specific sexual activities that are reserved just for the two of you. It also includes whether or not you after getting involved in this relationship are also allowed to take on lovers outside the relationship. These are conversations that poly-amorous couples have on the regular, and if you're going to get involved with a poly-amorous partner, you need to start getting comfortable with having them to. And once those boundaries are established. What type of communication do you need from your partner in order to feel comfortable that your boundaries are being respected and maintained? And one more really important question. How comfortable are you with people knowing about your relationship structure? If you introduce a new girlfriend to your friends and colleagues, and then someone sees her outcome noodling with somebody else are you willing to stand by her side and defend her right to do that? If not does that mean you keep your relationship with her secret and are you willing to have a relationship in secret? None of these questions are meant to be easy to answer. And if you go through them and find yourself having easy answers I'd wager that you're answering through the rose colored glasses of your fantasy of what you want to happen rather than being really honest with yourself. Also remember while you're answering these questions. If you choose to get involved with poly-amorous person. It is with the knowledge that she will remain poly-amorous. If you find yourself answering any of the questions above with some version of ritual become monogamous whence she realizes how wonderful I am. You're responding from a place of wish fulfillment and that isn't fair to you or to her. I don't want dissuade you. It is possible to make this type of relationship work, but it's going to take a lot of self reflection and self knowledge on the front end to build the kind of foundation that leads to a successful relationship. Hope that was helpful and I look forward to hearing how it goes for you. and to everybody listening, do you have an am I normal question? Please call leave a message at seven two zero good sex how rush of questions at the beginning when I started doing this segment but they've slowed down recently and I need more to keep this feature running. So I encourage you to push yourself to be a little bit brave and dial seven two zero good sex and leave a message with your question about sex and female sexuality. I look forward to hearing from you. This week I'm excited to introduce you to a pretty new podcast. MARVA instability Anna launched sister ESPN told in June this year and they explore history through the eyes of sisterhood. Here's a glimpse at their podcast trailer. Welcome mystery untold. We're your sisters and host Marva and Sabrina in this podcast, we look at history through the eyes of sisterhood. History often tells us that behind every great man is a strong woman, but we see things a little differently. Weaving beside every strong woman is another strong women supporting her influencing her challenging her hating her or loving her. From so-called Bloody Mary, and Elizabeth the I two Cardi meet up. We look into all of the rivalries, collaborations, Frenemies, and friendships that make up sisterhood. So we hope you'll join us on June twenty third as we dive into the first episode of History See. Then we we won't see them though it's podcast. Okay well. You'll hear us. That's not the. Trying. This History, okay. Marva in Sabrina. Are Delightful guides through interesting sisterly relationships. In fact, if your as obsessed with the podcast, your wrong about as I am sister untold is built on a very similar structure. I've just been listening to their July. Seventh episode about the Schuyler Sisters made famous by the Hamilton musical, which recently came out on Disney plus I love that they not only mention that one of their historical references was a bisexual woman but they also speak respectfully about sex workers. So you know they've got my votes. And they've just dropped another episode entirely devoted to eighteenth century sex workers I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but I'm super excited to do that. Links to the story untold podcast, and all of their social media Info is in the show notes. That's it for today. Good girls talk about sex is produced by me, Leah Kerry and edited by Gretchen Kilby. Additional administrative support from Lara oaklawn her and Magnolia. And I'm incredibly grateful for the financial support from good girls talk about sex community members at Patriae on. And remember you don't have to be financial contributor to have access to all of the audio. From this show. If you want to support me in these stories in answering your questions head over to patriots dot com forward slash good girls talk about sex. If you have a question, you'd like to ask about sex and female sexuality. Please call in leave a message on the good sex phone line at two zero good sacks. And before we go. I want to remind you that the lies you've probably heard about your sexuality just aren't true. You are worthy. You are desirable and you are not broken. I work with women just like you to reflect their true sexual nature back to them without the judgment shame or fear that can make it really hard to see it for ourselves. As a coach and PJ party hostess I can guide you in embracing the sexuality that is innate -Ly Yours. No matter what it looks like. I'm here to help you sink. So deeply into your true sexuality that the version of yourself that was scared to speak up for her own needs feels like Mirage from another lifetime. And until next time, here's to your better sex life.
Joe Rogan Whines that He Is Opressed After Signing 100 Million Dollar Contract With Spotify
"Hello everyone and welcome to another episode of more content talk. That's the only show that cuts through glam blitz and all the bullshit to bring you. The truth is news that we can find well professional podcasters and kanye west cock sucker. Joe rogan has thrown out a real. Jim He he thinks that we we Minorities are are coming for white straight men where you know we're we're going to persecute them and he has the scoop because joe rogan is so smart and You know i am of The the prescience and you know the the really the the mental intellect of the captains of industry of the day. Let's let's hear the what is these fucking m. a announcer. Some bullshit i dunno. Let's let's see what this crack this crack you know philosopher has to say so fifty three year old former television personality continued to rant. That straight white men would eventually no longer be allowed to go outside as lists begins. Laugh rogin continued. I'm not joking. It really will get there. It's that crazy so for those of you. Who are going to say. He was just joking. No he wasn't he said like no. I'm serious that they're gonna make stay inside. Got to be nice to each other man. And there's a lot of people that are taking advantage of this weirdness in our culture and then that becomes their thing. The thing is calling people out for their privilege calling people out for their position. You know it's it's it's true. I have a plan. I i have an evil plan devised and you know it's in my. It's in my basement. I keep it there and talked to joe biden about it on occasion You know because we're what we're gonna do is me and joe biden and i don't know kamala harris and focusing obama's going to be there because you know he's responsible for everything well we're gonna do is we're going to go around and harass a straight white men and make them stay in their houses. That's totally what we're gonna do. Because you know that's what you would do. When after pandemic rate is try to make all the workers stay home. It makes perfect fucking sense dude. I mean this guy is a genius and understand. You guys love him. I really do. I mean he's so smart. Rogan is infamous for interviewing several controversial figures including far-right proud boys. Founder gavin mcginnis and disgrace. Comedian chris delia. He came under fire last month. After he falsely claimed on his show that healthy young adults do not need to get vaccinated vaccinated. You know what are you guys. Listen this shit. what's wrong with you like. I curious because like you wanna rational. Society want to society where everyone's nice to each other and yet it's a to face request because at the other end of the spectrum you allow idiots like this go on the show. Say a bunch of bullshit right and it's propaganda. It's very clearly propaganda. Joe rogan knows what he's fucking doing here. He knows that he's stirring the pot. Joe rogan is the replacement for alex jones. I don't know if you realize that yet or not. He alex jones is from texas. And he's fucking nuts so most people are not going to listen to alex jones You know there's the cunanan on conspiracy theorist and that's about the only market. You have so what you have to do when you're a conservative. You have to appeal to different audiences and one of the ways. They do that because they know you will watch fucking. Ma is to get they pay people. Like joe rogan which spotify is obviously a conservative company is trying to spread conservative ideals. That's become very obvious. And their and their willingness to hire people like joe rogan and also their unwillingness to promote liberal podcast which they generally leave toward the bottom. Because that's how spotify is so curious out here giving you right wing propaganda. He's telling you that they're coming for the white man. This is the same thing that adolf hitler said the same thing that donald trump said. It's just wrapped up in a different fucking package guy with the fucking cosco t shirt. Who happens to look like a big fucking thumb muscular them but still a thumb nonetheless. So what the fuck you doing. What the fuck you doing allow a guy like this become famous. This guy does not have your best interest at hand at all. He's not interested in informing you on anything that's real he also did it. Episode on You know fat shaming where. He sat there and just basically called. You know people names for a whole hour talked about how fat shaming is a good thing calling people names works. We know that doesn't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't matter if you're if you're you know trying to help. People are not standing up there and calling people fat. That doesn't motivate them to exercise. And in fact if you're against you know the body positivity movement which people like. Joe rogan tend to be. I don't necessarily have a problem with it but if you're against it that's the last thing you're going to want to do. The last thing you're going to want to do is make fun of people. Because that's the whole reason. That the body positivity movement exist low this is no sir and christopher content and more content. Talk i am telling. He is using her first of all. Because anchor is free which is a really good reason but anchor also has awesome creation tools that allow you to create your podcast directly from your browser or phone. Anchor will distribute podcasts on spotify apple. Podcast and more you can make money on anchor with With no minimum listenership is everything. You need to make a podcast in one place. Download the free anchor app or go to anchor dot. Fm to get started today because anchor is awesome just like contemplates yes and when you get idiots like this we have to understand about them. That's their goal. Their goal is to cause people to fight. The goal is to cause people to have conflict with each other. They don't want to solve problems. No rogan is not a problem solver. He's an instigator and so the shock journalists they're very good instigating problems and driving people further apart. So when joe rogan says something like they're coming for the white man we he's really saying is white people and black people should not get along they should. They should distrust each other anytime. Black person does anything to get ahead. It's an attack on the white man. And that is how a politics in this nation has been done since jim crow and it will probably never change because it's effective is effective to say that by one person looks different way moving up in the world then people who look a different way or moving down in the world but life is not a fucking seesaw. All right you don't stand on one end and the tips this way and then stand on the tips. No economics does not work like that. If one person gets a job it does not mean that. You're going to lose your job okay. There are various other reasons why you would lose that job including demand which in a fucking capitalist country you think people would understand supply and demand but obviously not if you lost your job. You didn't lose it because some black person got a job. You lost your job because whatever the fuck. You're doing whatever whatever you're doing right now. The employer cannot afford to pay you a wage because guess what they're not making enough money because it's not popular anymore so when people come to you and they say i lost my coal mining job because of black lives matter. This fucking nonsense. You didn't lose your coal mining job because black lives matter unless you coal mining job because cold is bad for the environment and therefore because people are becoming more pro environmentalist. Guess what you don't have a fucking job and you gotta go get another one. It's like me you know I worked in the future before the pandemic all got shut down because of the pandemic. now i'm sitting fucking here. I don't have a job. it's not that i'm not skilled. It's not that You know. I don't know the white man took my job away. It's not that at all what it is anything. Do fucking raise actually is that you're not in demand right now and it sucks right. It's sucks to feel left out. It sucks feel like you know you're not important to the society but don't put so much into it. Don't don't think of it that way. It's not that you as a person are unimportant. It's that the demand in the economy is shifting and changing constantly. And you have to change with it and some people believe that's an attack on their identity. That's their an attack on their whiteness. And let me tell you something. There is no amount of attacks that could occur on white straight men in america to to ever have such nonsense having white straight men. Control everything in america. joe rogan. Just got a fucking one hundred million dollar contract for getting up here and spread in this bullshit here. I am sitting on my black ass. I can't get fucking thousand downloads. So i don't wanna hear all this nonsense about oh you're so oppressed and let me be very clear and tell you. This is the reason that people like joe rogan popular because of lying. And then i got people coming around my fucking twitter accounts. Call me a liar. And i don't wanna fucking i don't wanna talk to you anymore when i hear that bullshit because you listen to joe rogan. You listen to disinformation you. Listen to all this bullshit and yet you're gonna talk to me and tell me that i can't say the things that i'm saying i'm sorry. It doesn't fucking compute for me and just the fact that this white man this white straight man obviously is allowed to go on air and make this false claim that will never happen is evidence enough. You have all the privilege in the world white straight men. No one is coming for anything from you. No one wants anything from you. Know demands anything from you other than perhaps a little respect. And i know. I know that's difficult for you to give. But you're gonna have to buck up but you know you're gonna have to wipe your face with a few hundred dollar bills all the tears that are running down your face and you're to have to respect people and i don't give a fuck if you're uncomfortable about it. You got all the fucking shit in the world and if you don't you can get it again. You don't have fucking job. You gotta change jobs you gotta you gotta go back to school. Maybe i don't know what the fuck you gotta do. But all the opportunity is there for you. And they've made the this government has gone out of their way to make things easy for straight white men and so you have no excuse. And that's really i think is. What is the crux of this. Is that when a white straight man fails. It's not for any reason than the white straight man key failed and so he needs someone to take it out on. And what's he going to do. He's gonna come and he's gonna blame it on black people he's gonna blame it on. Minorities is gonna blame it on women because those everyone already blames everything on them anyway so why not throw in something else. Why not create some fake news story about. I don't know some black kkk. Or whatever the fuck you think is coming for white people and this is all. Joe rogan does and. I'm just calling him on his bullshit and that's it all right. Everyone abba one full day evening afternoon. Siesta whatever it may be. You can find us on tiktok youtube and instagram at more content. Talk you can also follow us on twitter at more underscore content p. l. s. All right everyone have a wonderful day and remember when life gets you down. You could always laugh at something else. Just make sure. It's not joe rogan shit. Just ain't funny piece out yo.
Propaganda In The Olympics, The Flimsy Legal "Precedent" On Vaccine Mandates & Pelosi's House Select Committee On Rewriting History (DNB)
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Some groups that are our listening base type of listing base have popped up in next door groups in areas that i am end so i try and share information there so if you are active in a next door group on that app then you might be able to find some like minded people. They're excellent so the top story. Today is some news coming out of the olympics. They're having a olympics in tokyo and one well. why don't you start. It's there's no spectators brinkley. No spectators the spectators are all coming in via zoom. I saw funny interview the other day after a gold medalist had just won the first gold medal swimming and they had the announcer there and the guys exhausted. And they're like we have your family. Your family's here your father's here talking to you and the father cuts in on the little zoom virtual screen. And he's saying i love you saw and it's great. It's amazing We're so proud of you. And then the guy. The guy is just standing there going okay. You hear anything. You're saying i can't hear a thing. He said i have no idea because they don't have their thing. I'll setup i it's like when all this virtual stuff started up again and all the news organizations were kind of messing up so none of the virtual stuff is working so it's causing these little funny interactions between family members are proud of their children but the best story that i've seen out of the olympics. If you're like most people you haven't seen much of anything out of the olympics because you don't care but you likely missed an inspiring effort by a south korean television station whose presentation of the opening ceremonies was without a doubt a gold medal performance. In my opinion they had a unique way of presenting the introduction of each country to help make it easy for citizens watching the broadcast to understand who exactly those countries are and what they did to make it easy to grasp who'd the countries where they were entering the arena during the opening ceremonies was paired that country's entrance with an image or a quotation or something that represented who that country was and i'd like to share with you some examples of the imagery that is not in nbc out of south korea how they represented the various countries when the ukraine athletes entered the tokyo olympic stadium. Nbc showed a photo of chernobyl. That's how they represented ukraine that sucks. The marshall islands were introduced as once a nuclear test site for the united states. When would serious south korea. I know they entered the syrian athletes. Nbc caption that said rich. Underground resources a civil war that has been going on there for ten years. That was the little quotation there. How when italy entered. The broadcaster pulled up a giant image of a pizza norway entered. They showed a salmon fillet onscreen when the haitian athletes walked in the nbc network. They put on screen. The situation in haiti is flogged by the assassination of the president. And then when the romanians entered they should put on screen. A giant image of dracula and finally when team el salvador entered which is a country where bitcoin is illegal. Tender they put a picture of the crypto currency onscreen to represent that currency. And of course they have issued an apology saying that they were just trying to help viewers understand and they will conduct an investigation into how these images and captions made it onto the broadcast green. I don't know what they're apologizing for their apologizing for being hilarious. And i guess that's okay. I don't know how they get away with it. I don't know who did it. I think gold medal. But i don't know how you get away with that. I guess. I guess it's a little bit. They're less culturally sensitive and must be just into dracula. There are a couple of propaganda. Things coming out of the olympics. I noticed one. is jon. Rahm who left to the memorial. Us golf tournament because of a positive pr test or whatever. I don't even think it's test that a result on the covert screening was that he was positive for it so he at one point. He said that he was. he said. i've got it all i had. It got the antibodies. I got the vaccination. I feel invincible at this point. This was around when he won the. Us open not too long ago yet. He tested positive again. So he's he can't do the olympics. Okay i personally like. He said that he he said i would have loved to have been the first spanish olympic gold medalist and golf but unfortunately destiny had other plans. This is a great reminder for all of us that we're still in a pandemic things are not over and we still need to fight together to get through this as best. We can now for me. My says he does not give one fig about playing in the olympics. it's not important. He has many opportunities to go up against the greatest golfer in the world to prove himself the greatest month-by-month almost there as i think by definition no money in the olympics. I don't know if you can get hurt every once in a while. But i know like the nba. They don't really give it their all in the all star game because it's not worth getting hurt for so i don't he gives a fig about that something very weird about this guy's role in the consequences of testing positive. And i and i will say that kerry mullis. I believe it was him might have been somebody else but it during my research on the pr thing so there were like cornfed guys from big sky country trying to join the army back in the day getting positive hiv test. And i believe it was. Moss might have been some other expert. Thought the mom probably would get one too that they're just some people who have that particular fragment of dna or whatever floating around if you magnified enough times you're gonna see it doesn't mean that person has any kind of disease it is not a test for an infectious disease. So i figure he's just a guy who test positive for it. There are people who seem to continue to test positive for it. Athletes was another golfer. I think you brought him up a few weeks back. He's tested positive for a number of times. I think maybe three times at this point and sometimes they test negative. And i'm thinking you really have to look at the cycle rate and everything else so The other kind of really. I would say major store propaganda. I'm not gonna call it a publicity stunt. It's definitely there to serve a purpose. Byles the gymnast said she she was after doing a couple of tumbles whatever. She withdrew from the group participation which is being credited for the fact that russia one and the us didn't and i do believe she gets her solo opportunities still so i you know that even seems a little funny to me but there's chic cited a mental health issues and what she said is she decided it says rather than push through the doubts that crept into her head. She's done so many times in the past byles decided enough was enough and she's done for now and her quote was we have to protect our minds and our body that rather than just go out there and do what the world wants us to do. And i've had a few insights into this one is that it seems that quitting is heroic quitting his heroic. Just like staying home for cove was heroic. There is It plays into. I think the idea of narcissism in in the kids. I don't. I don't actually think it's bad to listen to your mental health. I think that this person probably as mental fortitude. That at that moment she would not have given like. That's not what her life's training has been about an maybe there would be. She was put up. Twitter whatever. I think that this idea of underachieving is coming in just as the. Us is withdrawing as the world leader. This gave rise to russia. We have china coming up. I was thinking about how we're going to restore our position as regional hegemony on as we received from the world stage as world hedge hegemony. We are being as dean says level down and i feel like you know. This is all part of that thing macarthur toll. Jfk in order for us to lose as the dominant power in battle military or whatever would be for the us economy to be hit. And that is what's happening and it seems like we are just sunsetting and this is just another example of sports receding as the hyper adversarial proxy for war that keeps our mental state loyal to the government that this is now something else. I feel more things if he can stand it the. Us on her guy. I think there could be a couple of things going on with her. They have built her up so much in the media here as being this perfect athlete. Almost i have a headline right here from vox which they actually changed. But i have the original headline which has simeon byles. Is the apex athlete of our time. Why are gymnastics judges shortchanging biles when they score her just in that headline the presumption of racism and being biased against her. But i think when you pump up so much so much to where it's like either you win or you well. They're not going to say she failed. They will probably call it some sort of discrimination but she might perceive so much pressure on her and she sees other athletes who are also world class athletes that maybe she's starting to have creeping doubt in her mind that she's not going to win and she's going to let everybody down. That's very interesting. And i did actually think about something along those lines. That doesn't surprise me but what you're saying folds into something else now the mention it. I've always suspected that about mohammed ali. That he was really built up and he did not go to the olympics because of whatever he was a conscientious objector. That's the story and he may well have been. I don't doubt that. Necessarily but his first big fight. I believe was fixed. And that's why he was standing over Who was floyd. I forget but he was standing over him saying get up. Get up that famous picture of him standing over his defeated opponent. He was saying get up because he knew the guy took a dive so she in one of these quotes. I have it says this athlete byles was considered the greatest of all time in her sport and so he mohammed. Ali was great of all time and if she were if they thought she was not able because what they said was with her we could have won the gold and without her. We could not have won the. That's what the story was. And now i feel like maybe that is part of the thing is that they're there. It would have destroyed her reputation as that. I also think that there's that mental health thing that they're pushing and one other thing thing so it's funny to me the us team doctors as marcia faustin. Dr faustin dr chee. And i think i've talked your faustus. Who is a doctor who sold assaults of the devil like that theme coming up. I just think. I mean. I still think that kind of thing is now. I would like to see when foul. She enters the street. Anyway are to have an image of the doctor that sold his soul to the devil. Kind of like. Yeah kinda like south korea was doing. We can represent found. That would be super cool. So i do think that there is another element of the story of the mental health stuff. So i remember that Mister a told me one of i don't know who is talking to a doctor. Who said they're kind of telling them to under report suicides but they expect that to that policy that recommendation and i actually looked it up and found it in the journalist resources website i think back then last year under reporting suicides would go ahead and start reporting them again and then you would have a kind of suicide pandemic after the actual pandemic i think you can and he also told me that. Like suicide just skyrocketed. Maybe it was a hundred years ago or less. Whatever when they advertise. When they reported they used to not report on suicides when they started reporting on suicides a clearly encouraged it. And and i think at this point. We are now like the mental health issues. They're used to red flag laws. They're used for a lot of things. He's for interventions that are used. For the allison mcdowell social impact bonds or will be at some point there is emerging troubled teen industry. They're the way. And i think the part as weaponized vaping or of thc or whatever this social media cognitive dissonance the manipulation. There's a a lot of stuff out there and social media right now that like that kind of depiction good parenting as bad parenting. It's quote an epidemic of bad parenting as as out there to really drive that wedge home between parents and kids. That's going to be bad it. What they do is they. They give some of the solutions for teenagers on the very platforms that are causing. The problems like tic tac will have these doctors giving little brief minute and a half things it to to help out young people and stuff like that just keeps them on the platform that is causing some of these issues in the first place and it also. I have very little faith in the genuineness of those guys and even if they are genuine that they are helpful at all. I just don't think you can get your mental health treatment from tick-tock video. But i think they're very. It's very hard if you wanna start ushering in mental health as a as a measure of anything because it cannot be measured and then it is always subjective so to the extent that the state has any authority based on mental health or has the right to assess your mental health. Very very bad. Thomas za`z s. z. a. z. Libertarian psychiatrists look into his work. I don't agree with everything he says. But boy and really open your eyes why. I always thought mental health. If you're gonna lose your liberties for mental health reasons. You should have a unanimous verdict from a jury of your peers. But the last thing. I will say i think this is true beyond the story. This very much beyond the story is i know we looked at the two thousand seventeen spars document and you and i both agreed that that was really about media about propaganda about messaging about testing out new platforms seeing if you could get the message out without actually having electronic Communications i feel like so. I know a big part of what we're experiencing right. Now is expanding the scope of propaganda and testing the limits and seeing which works in. Which doesn't but. I believe they are actually really testing the limits of our endurance. A response to it. How much we can take. Where breaking point is they are not going to stop with this. They want the vaccines out there. But i think they know his last say people haven't gotten the vaccine are probably not going to get it. Maybe if you get an fda approval maybe if you get this or that but you are not going to the they are pushing it so hard to the point where it's making people crazy it's tearing people apart friendships apart. I think that that is part of what they are. Studying is the limits of propaganda. I completely agree. I think that the data that they're gathering the psychological data on persuasion. And how you can get somebody to move from being completely against something to thinking. They have but no choice to act and do what they do not want to do is invaluable information especially on a mass scale that goes far beyond the value of the inoculation getting everybody inoculated in my opinion when it comes to mass controls. I completely agree on that. And we have another measure today where yesterday when biden's administration they announced that they are going to be requiring the vaccine at the. Va hospitals the department of veteran affairs. They announced their plans for the vaccine. Mandate the people who work within the office. Which makes me think that there's an opening the way they phrased it within. The office makes me think this remote work could fact ran where you're going to be required to remove to work remotely if you don't have a vaccine so still giving opportunity for people to to not get it. Possibly but this is their part of their effort to overcome this vaccine hesitancy. Not just there but across the country and they're talking about this being a signal to state governments and to corporations across the country that we might need to mandate we might need to go further steps to make mandates possible however it is worth noting that the white house does not itself require vaccines for its workers so right now even the white house is still not doing it. But what they're doing is they're trying to put this question to the courts. I believe so. It can be litigated across the country. So two calls a tipping point and that could go either way. I think one of the people that they're parading around to talk about this. Is this guy named dr paul off it. O f f it. He's a director of vaccine education center at children's hospital philadelphia. So he's advocating compulsory. They prayed to this guy out. Cnn yesterday and he's trying to carve out the legal precedent for this and the case that he is presenting as this case back in nineteen ninety one when this was a period where there was fourteen hundred cases of measles and nine deaths and there were these churches called the faith tabernacle church in the first century gospel church. That did not want to get their children. The vaccine so ultimately there was a court order. That came down that forced the parents against their will. To have their children vaccinated this is compulsory versus mandated compulsory. As you do it even against the parents will mandate as do it or go. You don't have to work here type thing. That's at least the way he explains it but he doesn't tell counter the whole story about this. They try to draw the parallel between them being forced to do it versus now and the way he does up parallel as he says the aclu would not even defend this church because they said that you are liberty martyr yourself against religion but you are not at liberty to martyr your child to your religion. He's trying to make that case that this applies here. It does not apply here in my opinion because the court order was specific to this church and this church had a school of a thousand children who they weren't treating for anything it wasn't just measles they completely were against all medical treatment whatsoever. So i think that the legal case carving out is not sufficient if this is the one that they're going with and this is the only one i've seen so far so they're trying to kind of make a leap in logic while also subverting the religious exemption. But i don't think this case holds up my opinion. Well i think the religious there was a bryant. Festa has a lot of stuff and so does the pacific justice something other about the religious exemptions for the accent that people want to know more about how that works. it's especially helpful in the government thinks alike the department the va department has to deal with the first amendment but like a private hospital does not so. It's definitely going to change this way or that. I think we saw like an in a restaurant you don't have to. You can just like keep walking. You don't have to go in. You don't have to get a job there. But if it were a government near the cafeteria at the white house they do have to actually look at the first amendment in restaurants. You're you're right they don't and we have seen some of these places who go the other way with there's been gyms to do. Similar measures is this but a an italian restaurant in huntington beach. California has issued a decree this week that in order to enter there restaurant patrons must show proof of being unvaccinated. That's great and they have a sign in their window that says we have zero tolerance for treasonous anti american stupidity. They have been against us from day. One they've done a number of measures like this since. This whole thing has begun. They they've been standing for liberty. And i think that we're gonna continue to see push back like this. This is a form of protest civil disciple. What's the name of the place. The name of the place is best. Ceo's pasta aveeno. Okay so what. One thing i was going to tell you about. We ran out of time yesterday. But i wanted to tell you about it. Is that sars. freedom fest. There were the is the anthem film festival. And i only got to see one film. Because i'd met the filmmaker guy named neck was awesome. And i would like to talk to him more about that. I think he did it. Yeah he did. I think in conjunction with the misses caucus authobhjes institute. But one what he did was. He took four stories of four three restaurant. Owners and a gym like a kid's gymnastics gym and these are people. I believe who just made the decision after awhile out in california to stay open and the store and it was like a short film it was four stories and the people really. Their stories were obviously authentic. One of the restaurant owners was there. That's why the name i wondered. If it was miss olsen's he was the guy who owns that. It was really really moving and powerful and the name of it was the unseen because they said you know you just weren't people. These people are not being talked about so someone in the audience. Can there was like qna so one guy came up and he there's a bunch of people and and this german guy is like asking how they connected with each other and he was really interested and admire them wanted to help. There was a young woman behind him who as he walked away before she went up to the mike she literally like turned into a c shape. She cringed shillings over shoulder. And i thought that chicks about say something obnoxious and she did not want to so she goes up and she said i'm from new york and i understand your what you're saying here but you haven't seen refrigerated trucks full of bodies you haven't seen bodies in the street you haven't seen the devastation that has wracked you know has killed so many people and how do you owe the first thing she said. This is so important. The first thing she said was at the risk of getting death threats. So does that register with you at the risk of getting like. She's got the wrong crowd or a bunch of libertarians. but she's actually she's talking to january six haha rioters. I heard that yesterday too. I've heard that from a number of people. I figured that would resonate with you. And then so she goes on to say she's like isn't it just a very one sided of you to make this and one of the filmmakers got a little bit hot so smartly the hostess of the anthem giant scouts and said thank you so much for your point. That's an excellent point. Thank you instead of saying like. Did you really see refrigerated trucks full of bodies. Because i don't believe you shouldn't say that. But the one of the filmmaker said to her well the whole entire point of making this documentary called the unseen. Is that everybody. All the other reporting is so one sided that these people never got a voice. You can't there's this isn't the format for the side but what my sister who's with me. Said she saw a guy with that girl in the shadows and she felt that he was waiting to maybe cap capture on film or something if people reaction so i felt like when she cringed before she went up to the microphone when she said all those like trickery things she was the face of someone who probably wouldn't have looked like this young woman from new york. Whatever like wires even there. There's very clearly a setup. And i just i found that interesting and but it was also yeah california restaurants and stuff. Okay well with that before we get to our last big story of the free thirty where you basically. We'll tell us about nancy. Pelosi stage play on january. Sixth speaking of and what that's really all about about. I want to tell you about what's going to come in the patron fifteen. Texans might have a lot of guns. 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On fracturing the country back continuing to dramatically to propagate this complete misrepresented representation of what happened. There's gonna be eyewitness accounts is going to be new video footage. And there's going to be bipartisan officials involved with the republicans on the committee being liz shady and adam kuenz anger both anti-trump republicans. They're not even giving the illusion of being partisan of being unbiased. It's just completely bias. They're going forward with it and this is going to serve a couple of things what this really is doing is this is an attempt to write the official history of january six to control what future generations have the record that they can look back and say this is what happened and have it a sense of credibility to also give legislators in the near future that are pushing domestic terrorism policy ability to say just look at the official report on january six assists in the official report in fact we had adam shifts say. They're modeling this after the gold. Standard of investigations. The nine eleven ron. Paul said about that. They're not commissions their cover-ups yes. Data can't putting that and this also further divides the country and it very much intends to do. So with the purpose being to crystallize the image in the mind of democrats that january six was in fact a an insurrection in an attempt to take over the country while further. Solidifying the right that it's all just a sham and that there's nothing happened whatsoever with the whole purpose being to really fracture the country. I think nancy pelosi and everybody involved in. It should be investigated if this contributes to further violence in this country. Down the road in my opinion i. It reminds me of the introduction to the book about patrick henry that i read where i was shocked to find shocked accusations. That were supported well supported. I thought that thomas jefferson went out of his way like winston churchill did to craft his own image for history but what he did also was. He tried to diminish the image of patrick henry. So patrick henry is my favorite founder and he might have been considered the greatest. Thomas jefferson as if it weren't for thomas jefferson's intentional craftiness. And i'm thinking that this idea of writing history in real time cre- fabricating history in real time is probably as old as writing itself. As old as the first history they have i history was probably written to glorify someone. It makes you really question some of the official documents that you look back to from fifty s or sixty s or even before then when you see how the official documents are being created right now. Oh i'm thinking about the contemporary writings from before the constitution and then even back to hammurabi. I'm wondering if they say that writing was created to keep track of taxes. So i wonder if the next step was simply to to explain the the divinity of the king. Yeah he's written by the storytellers. People who tell the stories that make the most lasting impression in people's minds and hearts yes. That is true. So i know i said i was going to talk about the neo. Reactionary thing heard about. But i think that is a. I started to look into that and i could. I think i need some time to wrap my mind around that one. That's going to have to be an exploration. I'm absolutely and here where people have to say about it if they want to contribute to my thinking but i believe it's the guy michael malice i never listened to. That's kind of thing. I don't listen to because i don't want to have original slots and molester. Yeah i know he's very smart. That is for sure. But cam are frank. Cam told me. I was talking about it. Like i noticed that academia politics and the media are three places where they absolutely do nothing. There's no real feedback or consequences to their view of the world. If it's wrong or not yet. They're the ones who want to tell us how to look at the world and what and what to do and how to live and he said oh you just invented the cathedral. That's what michael mouse calls cathedral. Well michael malice got it from somebody else. He got it from this guy who i trying to find a book on it. Don't have a book for anyone has a book of this neo. Reactionary guy and it gets into the mechanisms the tactics that they use really behind the scenes. And i think it's going to be very interesting. But it's going to be a much bigger project than i thought so. Let me let me take a little bit of rain. Check on that one and remind. And i want to remind people that if you do have an event that you think propaganda report listeners would have fun at or benefit from even if it's just a farmer's market let me know i'll shout it out and i'll send you t shirts so send that to the propaganda report. 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Clayton Morris Say No to Speculation
"Ever saw the property. A friend of mine, brought me the deal and he said, look, you can get two of these, you've gotta put in like thirty thirty thousand dollars. And then the thirty thousand is just for the land, and then you're going to get a construction loan and you're going to build these, like log cabins on this golf course community and that it's going to be great. So I said, yeah, you know, I'm it by the real estate bug. Why would I wanna sit on this profit that I just made? Low fellow risk-takers in welcome to my worst investment ever stories of loss to keep you winning in our community. We know that to win in investing. You must take risk, but the wind big you've got to reduce it. My name is Andrew Stotz from ace thoughts investment research, and I'm here with featured guests Clayton Morris Clayton. Are you ready to rock? I am ready. Let's do it. Let me tell the audience a bit about you Clayton. Morris is a former Fox News anchor who left the number one cable news show in the world after achieving financial freedom through his financial freedom academy Clayton now, devotes himself to helping others build passive income and achieve financial freedom, like he did using methods, he had to learn the hard way after some epic failures. He's learned how to build a meaningful life and share these lessons on his top rated podcast investing in real estate with Clayton Morris and a tip to the listeners Goto the podcast. Go to episode four five three called motivation Monday and you're gonna hear a very short did about the color of your thoughts and I found it very, very powerful. The idea of three points when you want to achieve something ask for it number to receive it, and number three allow it to happen. Listen for the full details from Clayton on that anyways at age thirteen Clayton. Saw his dad, unexpected, the lose his job ever since then he had a fear about money. Always knew that there had to be more entrepreneurial way of creating wealth. You got into purchasing performing assets to secure future for his family. So they didn't have to go through the same financial pain as he did growing up after spending years, building up enough passive income, super forming assets to quit his high paying media career Clayton launched the financial freedom academy, where he realized is passion is in helping others learn, they don't have to just work for a paycheck and they don't need a million bucks to achieve financial. Freedom Clayton take a minute, and fill a further tidbits about your life. Well, I have to say that was great. I mean I lived all across the country in, you know, in the TV business, and I would sneak downstairs, and watch Letterman and Carson when I was growing up, my parents thought I was in bed and get yelled at. So I had a passion, deep passion that I wanted to to go into moving all across the country was deeply into debt, you know, like living in Montana's, a political reporter, people think TV's, glamorous, owes making twenty three thousand dollars a year, working for CBS news and then lived all over the country. And, you know as renting from people every time all over the place and got to see like mailing money off to somebody who's not here. I never see this person. I'm renting from this person taking care of the property signed the lease the seed was then planted about how passive income and actually owning performing assets could actually work. I had to go through it as the renter. The understand and learn that. But I think he did a pretty good pretty good job of filling in the blanks there for for my career. Yes. Great. Well, I love the mindset stuff that so valuable at seen in my own life that, when my mindset is right? I can overcome many obstacles when my mindset is wrong. Everything seems to not work. So a lot of times, I try to recalibrate myself and listening to that episode helped me to remind me of that. So thank you. Well, my pleasure and thank you so much for mentioning that. I think it you know, we try to over complicate things in our lives. But at the end of the day, we know when we are in vibrational alignment with our passion, and it really just comes down to how you feel. I mean if you wake up and you're anxious in your heart is racing in your nervous about something that is your, that's an emotional response to being out of alignment with what you wanna do. So if every day you're waking up miserable about going to this job, were, you just do not wanna get in that car? You do not want to drive the two hours to and from work. There's something telling your body is telling you, you've got to make a change we have to pay attention to these signals that are being sent to us every day. Once you're invite, you know, when you're in vibrational harmony Reich, because you feel mazing you're right that he chill on the back of your neck, like this excitement, this exuberance. And so it's not that hard, if we just actually calm ourselves for a few minutes, sit down and feel it who can actually then get into vibe. Racial harmony, and live the life that we want. I want to tell a quick story about my father, he was a safe driver. He worked for DuPont is whole career and he had been trained in safe driving. And he always tried to teach me that. And of course I was a young kid. I had a motorcycle. I had kind of a moped when I was like sixteen and I came home with scraped up knees one day, and he's like, what happened and I said, I had an accident, he said, tell me what happened I said, I was going down the road. And somehow I swerved and I got off the road. And I got into this kind of a rut, a, you know, an I just couldn't control the motorcycle. And I just kept going, and eventually I fell, and he's like so how could you have prevented that I was like dad, I couldn't have prevented it. I just told you the story. And he's like pretty much everything could be prevented. No, could you think more about it? No, I, I don't see it that I was flying through this. You know. You know this the Gauley and I was trying to an end. My dad said, so dad how, how would you avoid it? And he said, stop. Right. I know it seems so simple. Right. It's comes razor. You know, the, the idea that the simplest the simplest solution is just this, you know, it's, it's the simplest solution usually is that little simple straight line between two points. I'm reminded us something, and I know what we're getting a little off topic, but you and I are hitting it off on this on this idea. But for a lot of people think about, like you've ever been to San Francisco and ego up to the top of the winding hills, the roads in San Francisco. And if you think about a car to sitting up at the top of it, right? Thinking about that car is being like you're the start of your morning in kind of like the thoughts that start to, to permeate. And if you just give it a little nudge, right? You could in that car will distract to go down the hill, and it's gonna go way faster. And then bef- then it's gonna super fast, and then it's gonna go into the ocean. Right. Well, it's way easier just to, to if you're going to get that car little nudge at the top. Of the hill to just kinda stop it. Stand in front of this kind of put your hand there in stop it. Then it is to try to stop it. When it's all the way down to the bottom of the hill, building, up speed and steam in the snowballing of all these things -iety and threats and fear in your mind, that just keeps snowballing and you're going to try to step. Stop it as it's almost about to crash into the ocean. It's way easier to stop it. Once you get that little hint that little that little nudge. And then try to stop it. Amen. I love that. It's a it's a great, great way of thinking about it. And I think our thoughts are valuable things, and we've got to protect them, and make sure that they're in a what really can bring us forward. Well, great intro. I enjoyed that there's a lot more. We could talk to about on that. But now it's time to share your worst investment ever. And since no one goes into their worst investment thinking, it will be tell us a bit about the circumstances leading up to it, and then tell us your story. Orlando, Florida two thousand six I got bit by the real estate. Doug, I lived in a one bedroom condo. I bought a one bedroom condo when I moved down there for a TV show that I was working on called the daily buzz. I think I bought the property in two thousand four and, you know, seventy five thousand dollar condo on the on the golf course lived in it for about two years, fixed, it up myself, and then a woman extra to me had passed away with a two bedroom condo, her family didn't want to sell on the open market. It was just covered nicotine. You know, she smoked for thirty years. Live there passed away. I never even saw her and I made an offer it was back in the days when you could do one hundred percent, financing and so forth. And so I was working at two thirty in the morning on the morning show would get home around lunchtime. And I would go over there and I just started working on drywall. And you know, I didn't know what I was doing ripping out. You know, everything put a new carpeting, and so fresh end up like both of these condos and I listed them for sale right before the crash happened. I sold them about a week before the bottom fell out and made a pretty penny. I mean I made like. No seventy eighty thousand dollars in profit and the bottom nearly falls out, and I ended up than putting in my I took this money. So you think that's, that's great. It's not a bad investment. I then took that money in rolled into a speculative land project in North Carolina, a Phil Mickelson golf course community that was to be built in cashiers North Carolina. Beautiful mountain area and never saw the property. A friend of mine, brought me the deal. It was some sort of like back room pitched seminar thing in Manhattan, that he had gone to. And he said, look, we get you can get two of these, you've just gotta put in, like thirty thirty thousand dollars in the thirty thousand is just for the land, and then you're going to get a construction loan and you're going to build these, like log cabins on this golf course community and that it's going to be great, and then you're gonna flip it and make like double in this community called river rock and they had. All the marketing materials built and they had like a little website with running water, and, and there was going to be a clubhouse in the centre golf course. And then multiple phases of this whole thing. So I said, yeah, you know, I'm I'm, I'm bit by the real estate bug. I why why would I wanna sit on this profit that I just made I had this horrible time of holding on money and because I grew up with such a negative association with money that I never felt like I was worthy of this money. Maybe a lot of your listeners can probably relate to that, which is the you, you don't feel worthy of success in. So what happens to a lot of people that start to make money is that they quickly find ways to squander it, because money flows to those people that take care of money, and guess what money flows away from people that don't take care of it and not taking care of it. Doesn't just mean like making stupid investments, not taking care of it also means you don't feel worthy of it. And that you, you think you need to hold onto it like a hoarder and, and, and so. Yeah. Invested in this thing with him. And I knew he had real estate experienced. So I thought okay. Sure. And short time later, you know, I'm just waiting for this thing to be built waiting for this thing to be built in the market kind of collapses than we find out that the builder backs out of this thing and they're gonna find another builder. So I then drive to North Carolina to see my plot of land in this guy in like a four Wheeler, we meet him at this clubhouse may downtown cashiers, and that this beautiful like office, you know, like this demonstration building where you can see the phase is they bundle. These nice poster board on easels and it's like a log cabin field, and giving you coffee and tea in like, oh, yeah, we'll take you out. We're gonna drive with John. We're gonna go up in the mountains here. You'll see it. We're gonna get into a four wheel. It's a little money back in phase one where your property is located good location. So we go up, and we see the marker in the ground where my, my plot of land is which is to be built. In now, just imagine how beautiful, this is going to be. And then right now we're gonna drive up to the clubhouse. So we drive up into the clubhouse area. And of course, there's no clubhouse. There's only like a wooden sign with a picture of a clubhouse. I can imagine how great this clubhouse is gonna look, you know, I'm picturing the rascals and Asya clubhouse, Egli. Yeah, there's alfalfa, and I, you know. You know. And I was excited about it. And even despite the fact that, you know, stuff started hitting the fan with the economy and everything. And then we just started learning that everything was collapsing. And pretty soon, the idea of my construction loan was coming do now is having to pay for this like balloon note on this construction loan and the land wasn't worth anything. I was trying to sell it back to them, because I'm like, look. I don't know what's going to happen. Why is being built we just got some delays. Well delays were actually in the fact that the builder backed out than like Phil Mickelson backed out, and then the realtors backed out. I don't even know how everyone backed out of the same except me left holding the bag on the speculative land instruction project in the mountains of North Carolina and ended up having to go through deficiency judgment for closure. You name it and went into Fox News. The one morning to go buy coffee. And because of this deficiency judgment against me. I went to you down to the commissary to use my debit card, and like your car doesn't work like we'll know it's my Bank account card on a credit card should be fine. You know, so I went up to my office and I was down the hall from, like Bill O'Reilly in like, you know, Sean Hannity like that was my office. And I go and log, my Bank of America, and everything was like flashing red like your accounts. Everything was frozen every piece of cash that I had to my name was frozen as a result of this, like deficient deficiency judgment. It was awful. So long story short, I had to work with a lawyer to try to get to some sort of a settlement with this construction loan that von a piece of property, that wasn't even worth five thousand dollars. And I had a construction loan for nearly two hundred thousand dollars on it, but there's no community being built. There's nothing I had some people from there were also equally left. Hanging like reach out, and like we're trying to put together some sort of like a class action lawsuit, and, but it was like a ten thousand dollars to buy into the lawsuit, and I just said, I know and there's very little chance of you winning anything like that to begin with number two. Any lawyer worth their salt knows there's no class so you couldn't do like a class. It's not like everyone gets cancer from holding an Android phone. So, you know, like a Samsung phone, you could sue Samsung because it's exact same device. Everyone had the exact same symptoms as a result with this. It was all different, you know, like you own this piece of property. Maybe you had this trees removed already you had sewer already installed. So everyone had a different level of symptom and therefore, there's no class. So I just said forget about it. Not a fight it finally paid it off. And had a look back. You know, had to just put that whole thing behind me, but that was definitely quite a lesson for me and something I'll never repeat again. Yet will before I ask you the next question. I just want to highlight to the listeners that even people that are in prominent jobs and have big careers are making mistakes. And I think we've, we've heard that from Clayton when he talks about going into the into his workplace and, you know, and I think the other thing that I would like to make sure that the listeners get is that loss happens. You know, the feelings that come with it can sometimes be devastating overwhelming. But don't just face it alone know that other people have been there are the people will be there and reach out for help and support with friends, and family, and whoever you can because I can tell you living through the nineteen ninety seven financial crisis in Asia at the epicenter in Thailand. We had people who committed suicide because of the levels of debts that they had, and as I always say. It's only money. So what lessons did you learn from this experience? Well, the biggest lesson for me and what I talk about on my podcast, a lot is speculation. Speculative speculative speculative. So how you're saying, wiz and clean. You host like a top rated investing in real estate podcast. You've now chief financial freedom because of real estate investing while. Wow. How did you like bounce back from that, while it's totally different because what I ended up doing? There was a speculative land project with the hopes of clubhouse and waterfalls. And all this kind of garbage wasn't until I pick myself up cleaned myself up. And also, as a result of that I had to get create my credit was ruined. I had this deficiency for closure, the whole nine yards. So I couldn't get alone. So I had to figure out how to be creative with then moving into real estate investing at borrowed from my 4._0._1._K, not withdrew I borrowed from which is alone to yourself. I had, you know, self directed. I was able to do all these creative things in order to buy my first few rental properties. Now what I did. So speculative was the land project. Never again, and actual purchasing of performing assets is what I now do and teach other people how to do so buying you know, my properties that I buy in the mid west. It's what I do with my company, you know, fifty sixty thousand dollar properties old brick houses on tree lined streets. The neighborhoods aren't going anywhere. They've been through world wars and they're not going anywhere. They've been through recessions. And guess what? Everyone has a different job on that street. One's a principal one works at local hospitals nurse ones works at the WalMart is manager. So those are the properties I by nine hundred dollars a month in cash flow. So I by actual assets that exist. Right in all find them without a you add, renovations to them in on my YouTube channel right now in our Morris invest YouTube channel walking through the behind the scenes of some renovations that were doing on a couple of properties that we just bought. And so that's the difference. That's to me. The biggest thing is no speculation. I just did a podcast episode on this exact subject. Another gentleman who just lost hit lost his shirt similarly years ago with speculative investing. And you know, it's just not something I will ever do again, but that's probably my biggest takeaway. All you ruined it for a casino. It's so exciting to see a, a fixer upper, and you think I'm gonna fix this up. Yeah. It's not making any income now. But when I turn this thing around, it's going to be making a massive amount of income. And that is a type of speculation to say that it could generate income versus you in your bio. It was repeated many times that we talk about performing assets. Meaning it's already haying, right? I mean, look, there's the hope that, that this golf course, community is going to be built, and that I'm going to flip this house. Right. So I'm buying this thing I'm an it's speculative all the way down the line. That number one, it's going to be completed number two, that it's going to appreciate number three at someone's gonna actually wanna buy that the economy's gonna remain stable that there's going to be somebody who wants to buy a second home on a golf course here in North Carolina. Speculative. Speculative speculative speculative, spoke to a guy in my show, the other day, who did the same thing guide kind of, greedy when he was having some success buying single family homes, and then he decided is of like what we do now, and he went, you know, buying a single family home renovating, keeping it as a rental property. He didn't got into speculative speculative work, Bill, two million dollar property on the beach, and right when the economy collapsed in the housing market collapsed. And so he was left holding this bag on his two million dollar beachfront property, you know, which was totally different than what he had been doing, which is single family rentals, which is what led him to success. You get shiny object syndrome. You start getting lured by this money and other ideas, you get off course keep it simple. Well, let me some. Is a few takeaways, I've got. And let me know if I missed anything, the first take away that I have is the idea of external factors. And we see it all the time that, you know, there are good ideas and good investments. But sometimes external factors like a collapsing economy can cause everything to go wrong. The second one I took away, what I kind of call the cursive winning when we have some winning and it happens a lot in fact with most of the stories of loss, is it when they first buy into that, it actually goes up. And so they feel confident and that can also happen. If your first or second trade is like a really successful one, you have this curse that, you know of winning because then you have more confidence than you probably should the other thing that I take away is what you said, I never felt like I was worthy of money. And I think that this also highlights, you know what you talked about a bit in the motivation, Monday on the color of your thoughts. But I always think about. The lyrics of a song by Soundgarden. It says what you wanted to be yours has made it mine. And I just think that, you know, when you're craving and craving, something, you know, or when you're thinking about something so much, sometimes that's not the way you know to get it. But anyways, those are some of the things that last one that I would say from finance perspective is the idea of sizing your position. And this is mistake, number two of the six common mistakes that I've looked at and it's failed to properly assess and manage risk. Now, you may find a project such as this and you assess the risk is being reasonable that I can take this risk to, to do, but the problem is, is that many cases, people put all of their money into that. Now, if you take a position in something real estate's, probably a little bit harder to do this compared to let's say, buying stocks in the stock market. But the point is make sure your size your position so that you're not putting so much money into this one project, and remember that you're sizing of the position is not the initial down payment or something. It is the final payment that must be made when the property will. Transfer and all of that. So those are some of my takeaways you have any thoughts on those. No. I think those are those are spot on. I think you know what, what I look. There's risk in everything. But I think if you're smart about your investing, and you follow one course of action to success. So whether it's. I see when people come in, they started listening to my podcast or they start they start watching my, my Morris, invest YouTube channel in. They start learning. I, I have people say they sort of binge-watch like thirty forty videos in the ready to take action. What happens is they do take action. Right. They get that first rental property or that second single family home. Which is what we preach single family homes. You know, then they suddenly start getting that shiny object syndrome, and they start swerving because they think the grass is greener. Right. They start hearing about commercial properties or billboards or mobile home parks, you know hundred unit apartment complexes, they start swerving and they get off track which is like the guy I was telling you about the beachfront property. He was already seeing success. He was following that one course of action. And then you know you just get greedy you get the Chinese objects syndrome and you just get off track. And I think that's also kind of a lesson for me. You know I'm preaching to the choir. I'm telling my like the younger version of myself, just stick with what you know. No, that's fantastic. I think for listeners, focus follow one course until success key, so based on what you learned from this story and what you continue to learn what one action, would you recommend our listeners take to avoid suffering, the same fate keeping in mind that listener has just been presented with the documents from his friend who is in New York and said, look, this, and that listener sitting there with cash, what one action, would you recommend that they take at that point? You know, you've got I've really in the past year, and this is a little SO. Eric, but I really I, I've really tried to tap into my intuition. We all have it. It's all inherent in all of us. Some of us feel it in our stomach some of us here things some of us have dreams about things we all have. If you're sitting there, thinking, you don't you're full of it. In fact, I'd recommend a book called intuition for beginners that you should check out because it's so great. And we all have this power in, if you're close minded, you're not gonna you're not gonna believe it, but your friend presented documents about something in New York City about some speculative land project, and you just feel like not in your stomach. You just sit with it for a few minutes. Well, I you know, and, you know, you know better, you know better just take a deep breath and then just say thank you know, not right now. But no. It's great, I'm telling you. It's great. Oh, awesome. How about this? I want to see your success with it. I'm going to be super jealous when you're successful with it. And then you know what six months from now after you've had great success. Maybe if there's an opportunity, I'll get back into don't be afraid to listen to your instincts. Don't be afraid to listen to your intuition, by could tell a younger version of myself with that, I can distinctly remember where I was standing when he called me, and I just was like Kana nervous about it. And I just didn't feel right? But I felt like oh, he kinda knows more than me. He's older. He's had more experience. And I just said that heck with it. Let's do it if I could go back in time while, you know, but hey, it's I wouldn't be where I am today without, you know. So I kind of had to go through that. But you've. Gotta listen to that our mistakes make us. But I like I like the, the point because I think what I'm trying to do with this podcast is to reach out to listeners who are in a at a point where they are about to make a mistake and all the logical things are flowing through their minds like, yeah, this is great. I like this. But what my conclusion at this point, is that ultimately the best way to stop someone from making a mistake is to help them be aware of that feeling of that intuition, and don't be afraid to follow that path because there's a lot of value in that. And so that would be, you know what, what I would say. So last question, what's your number one goal for the next twelve months? My number one goal for the next twelve months is to simplify simplify simplify and get back to my passion, which is teaching and helping others build wealth. We had a really difficult year in our business base. Defrauded by a company are Indianapolis market allied to us about renovation work that they had done in tenant placement. We ended up having to once we learned what they had done. We ended up reporting them to the government end, because we had recommended them to a lot of other people, my family included, you know, it reflected poorly on us. And so at the time of year ago, a year and a half ago or whatever it was, we cut very religious shell shock. Oh my gosh. You know. And we got over, we became a much stronger company in our markets across the country. We've since that time helped hundreds of people, you know, get their first rental properties in just amazing success stories. And so we really bounce back from that, but what I learned from that is just continued to teach the core continued to teach what got us here, and which is smart value, added properties, single families being smart with taxes. How? How to, you know how to make sure you're in setting up your business properly. How to make sure that you will your real estate investing for the benefits of the taxes being a business owner that invests. And so that's what we teach in our financial freedom academy, people are really understanding a hold of their finances. Get out of debt and start buying performing assets instead of buying liabilities in, so you know, I recently went back on FOX a couple of months ago to talk about our book one of the news anchors came to me in the hallway. And he said we were never taught any of this who were never taught this in high school. This needs to be sung from the mountaintops in, so, you know, it's like I, I can take internet trolls can take people whatever it doesn't matter. I'm on a mission in so for the next twelve months, it's to get this message out there to help as many people as I can to get out of the rat race change their life. They wanna move to Thailand. They won't move to Portugal. They wanna move the Spain. They wanna do whatever they want in a life. They can do it. And we wanna. Help them get their fantastic. Well, I look forward to seeing where you get in twelve months from now because that's a lot of exciting stuff and a lot of people that you can help. I think that's a main message of all of the products and services that people let yourself myself do to try to help people are alternate goal is that we can help people to achieve some of the things that we've achieved. So that's all that's awesome. So listeners, there you have it. Another story of loss to keep you winning to find more stories like this previous episodes and resources to help you reduce your risk. Visit my worst investment ever dot com. In addition, if you or someone you know, has a story to tell just click on the social media, or Email, icon of your choice in the upper right hand corner of my worst investment ever dot com, and that will go directly to me, as we end this session Clayton, I wanna thank you for coming on the show. I know it's painful talking about are losers. But our listeners are learning to win as a result. Do you have any party? Moore's for the audience. Well, I always say I, I end every every, every episode of my investing show is just go out there. Take action. You can spend the next two years, hanging around on the internet hanging around on internet forums talking yourself out of anything you want. If you wanna talk yourself out of anything, spend five minutes on the internet. You'll spend five minutes on the internet, you know, finding out ways that I'm a terrible person that Andrews, bad, that it, you know, the world is bad, the sky's falling. Or you can actually get off your butt go out and take action and become a real estate investor because I believe it's the number one way to build wealth. Fantastic. Great. Parting words while that's a ramp on another great story to help us create grow in most importantly, protect our wealth, fellow risk-takers. I'll see you on the upside.
Supply chain problems are slowing down the building of homes in Seattle
"The city of seattle has twenty three thousand homes being built right now but supply. Chain problems are slowing down the time it takes to build those homes. Kyw's joshua mcnichols has more. Trevor johnson builds townhomes. He gave me a tour of one under construction in ballard. These are all two bedroom. Two bath got a little storage and utility here to our left is going up. The stairs needed washing machines for each unit. But as regular suppliers in seattle didn't have any and wouldn't for months. His employees called all over the country before finally finding some for sale in new york. Yeah i was shocked when they told me that i was like what seriously windows and some wood products are on back order to the reasons for the delays are many the pandemic slowed down factories in mexico and canada and cold weather knocked out. The plastics industry in texas shipping delays and labor shortages also played a role. The result is that housing production in the seattle area has slowed even as demand has grown joshua mcnichols k. u. a. w. news.
News Minute: 55+ Residential Community Coming to The Exchange at Gwinnett
"This is your news on the daily post. Podcast brought to you by keyamo. All of georgia. Today is thursday. July eighth and i'm edwards. A one hundred and eighty unit fifty. Five plus residential community is under construction at the exchange of net capital seniors housing announced. It has broken ground on the outlook. at the exchange. It will be a two hundred thousand square foot. Four story upscale active adult residential community. Once it's fully built out. These changes will have entertainment options. A hotel food hall one thousand luxury apartments. Several restaurants outdoor greenspaces and service oriented businesses in addition to the active adult residential community. The outlook the exchange is expected to open late next year and will offer one and two bedroom apartments for more on this story Post dot com. I'm jp edwards for the quantitative post. Podcast this podcast production bgi group at us to your alexa flash briefing or your google home briefing. Be sure to like. Follow and subscribe wherever you get your podcast.
Speed-Round Sunday: What Part of Town Do You Live In?
"Welcome to speed round sunday on the parenting roundabout podcast where we share a mini episode from our past for your weekend listening pleasure. We'll be back tomorrow with a brand new episode. Today's question is what part of the city or town. You live in. do you live in. What part of town do you live in uptown. Don in the suburbs on the outskirts on the wrong side of the tracks. Where do you live nicole in your beautiful desert community there. What part of town live desert. We live in the desert part of our desert down. We kinda like live in this like annexed little villain on the that is adjacent to the city. It's an unincorporated rural little place that They cut down the orange groves for sadly. So yeah it's not even inc this kind of yeah. It's just a little rural community that is basically right next to the bigger community that we do all our business go to go to school in working so no do feel superior or inferior outside of town. We're better than those towns in exclusive on clay or are you like us it certainly not exclusive. I would prefer to be in town but this is a nice little suburb so work for now but don't work for now. It's the longest you've ever lived in the house. That's why yesterday with our ten year living in america anniversary. Yes this is the longest. We've been anywhere so hey putting down roots checkout. What part of town do you live in a well. We we live on a fairly busy street because it's kind of main drag but it is considered very nice We i think. I talked a little bit about this in the podcast before It's just like less than a mile from downtown It's walking distance to the library in the pool. And there's a big park right across the street and that's where they set off the fireworks in the on the fourth of july and all of this. Thanks to the fact that we moved here from new jersey and sold a two bedroom condo and then we bought a pretty big house that is a glorious transition for the west coast to the midwest. Same amount of money for a a you know about more than double the amount of space. I wouldn't say like a studio to a two bedroom. Apartment looped yeah. It's all the same ranting. Thanks thanks to that. So yeah it's very nice and It's easy for people to know you know when you when way explain where we live. It's the people understand where that is confined us. So it's an important thing you know is is being a part of town where people know where it is When we first did the first house we bought in our town. Our town is kind of weird. It's c shaped and it of runs around all these other towns select from one end of town to the other end of town. You have to drive through another town. And it's just when i moved here. It took me forever to figure it out because i was constantly in a different town. Gazette another so. When we first bought a house we bought a house. It was like two houses down for us was from us was different town. We were like right on the border and so and and the name of the street changed at the border so trying to like. Get a pizza delivery and explain okay. You're going to ensure on this street and then before you get to our house it's going to be a different street. But and the numbers are going to change. But that's can people get on the bus school. Buses people had such a hard time and having to explain it was an entire story. Now we live next door to the high school and it is glorious. Ira out any problems. We're right next door to the high school. Everybody knows where we are of course twice a day. We can't get down our street because people are dropping their kids off but it is a trade in. I am very worth it.
#262: Deal Analysis - House Hack in Denver for Under $200K
"You're listening to the denver real estate. Investing podcast brought to you by the envision advisors at your castle realist states and welcome back for another episode. Today we're given deal analysis on. I think the lowest price house act we've ever discussed podcasts along with the lowest amount of cash to close for house. Second client as well so macos stacy. Who's actually agent on the seal. Stacey has it going can't crash. How're you doing really good. So give us the high level overview this deal because this is an interesting one and definitely much lower price point than we talk about. Yeah so we had a client come. That didn't have a very big budget. and so we took on that challenge to work with him to see what we could find And we ended up finding a two bedroom condo that made sense as a house hack and a future rental and he also closed with the down payment assistance as well which helped really lower the catholic. Close right yeah. He did not have to come with much cash out of pocket for this Deal he was able to use. Fha financing as well as down payment assistance. Okay so what was. I know you said he was a know had a limited budget. What was the criteria for what he was looking for hoping to achieve. What were his goals. Yes so i i. This was his first property And we had to stay under two hundred thousand And he was just looking for what that could afford him in the city of denver. So we were only looking at condo's that limited us and really only two bedroom or less condos and he was opened like the whole metro area. Yeah he was open to the whole metro area. Okay so what did you guys getting in her contract so we ended up finding a two bedroom. One bath actually in denver kind of east side of denver For it was listed at one. Sixty nine nine hundred. Okay and why did you guys like it. Obviously besides the price point. It's an a condo complex that we were very familiar with our team has bought Several you condos in this complex so we knew it had a good hoa. It had it has off street. Parking has the ability to add laundry in the unit. So a lot of things that we were looking for. Were in this Condo in it was a good opportunity for us because it had come back on the market so it was previously under contract and that fell out and so we jumped right on it. Okay so kind of go into that. So how'd you guys offer in initially and lost out. No we did not this. It was under contract. I think before we started looking so okay and do you know what. The contract gorgeous typical. Yeah i think it was inspection or something. They couldn't agree on boca. And then what was the offer like. So i know as susa around one sixty nine. Did you guys go in around the same price. Like the general terms and speed. You need to win this property. Yeah we we went straight in right at list price And we were able to are working with joe so we were. We did very streamlined Lending thirty day close And we we didn't do a limited inspection but the listing agent was able to provide us with the previous inspection so that helped us kind of decide how we wanted to move forward having that information upfront and there anything major in the inspection report. The only thing on the inspection report was That that the hvac would there was some trouble with that and so we just brought in our hvac inspector specialized and he checked it over and everything was fine. That was it. Yeah okay and then in terms of sounds like there's no inspection. I'm since you had the report and really was nothing major when actually dug into it now and they said you were going to join the financing side here so this was an fha down payment assistance program. And we've talked about other podcasts. That a lotta time. Some condo complexes they are not fha proof for for a variety of reasons sometimes just too much paperwork times the other issues. What was the situation like with this. Fha purchases complex. Yes so this is a complex. That has a lot of investors as well so They are fha approved but there's limitations on how many investors versus homeowners and that's kind of like a sliding scale so it changes depending on what's been bought and sold in the complex so we didn't know for sure going in if we could get it But we ended up getting it which was awesome. And you know. Joe let us through that process and it was really smooth okay and this will require the fha spot approval. Yeah i was a spot approach. I believe so. Yes so that means. That's an extra check to make sure that. Fha could could go through on their right right that too. Many investors hadn't bought in in the last week or something like that good and see it came well and then other than that i mean no inspection items. No nothing else talked about during the contract process right now. Appraisal came in value. It was really smooth going so we were really happy with this one. All right so let's plug into the rental analysis here and for the We got joe spreadsheet up here so we've got it in here at three and a half percent. Mortgage insurance is monthly payments. Fha purchase price at just under at one sixty nine and all together after down. Payment closing cost down payment assistance. He was all in for what mid mid nine thousand adviser under ten thousand dollars under ten dollars. Which is i mean. The only other ones. I've seen under ten thousand dollars has been valence. Because they are zero percent down plus the closing costs. But this is the first timer. She didn't nonviable ten thousand pretty awesome. Yeah so he would probably be thrilled right. Yeah very much so interested at three percent thirty year mortgage and these numbers are for what he moves out. Fourteen hundred dollars a month in rent once he moves out but while he's living there do you know what his plan is. You're getting a roommate. Yes he was actually going to be. His brother was moving to town so he was gonna rent to his brother but again he could just do a typical room rental. Get around seven hundred dollars a month for that. So because i mean fair market rent for a room of they're going be seven seven dollars a month right for a room over there. I think so. Yeah yeah and so. Even if he was living there. That's dino offsets pa the big time out four hundred dollars a month we have. Our typical assumptions plugged into there and he will not pay for property management news out as just three hundred dollars a month. Taxes are about nine hundred insurance on condo hundred dollars and then really know. They're expensive because it's a nature way property so moving to the analysis. Here this is what surprised me so much that when he moves out at three and a half percent down. This is actually cashflow positive. Nineteen hundred bucks for the year with an hoa too. So what that comes out to be is a twenty percent cash on cash return and it's just so high because i mean no one's it's positive cafo but since he put in nine thousand dollars is just big percent of your total money down and total return on here because all four quadrants is a hundred and sixty seven percents now appreciation makes up like ninety one percent that return but debt paydowns thirty six percent depreciation like eighteen percent which can start taking advantage of once. He moves out of there but he's in such high percent returns because he has such little money down and that's one of the keys. Are these returns here. does that mean. The property appreciated ninety one percent. Stacey now no so exactly. But here's the crazy thing so in the first year and this is just as a student as a as a full rental property. Castro's about nine hundred bucks a year our appreciation of property but eighty five hundred so goes from one sixty nine to one seventy six and value debt. Paydowns like thirty three hundred bucks a year and depreciation is about sixteen hundred dollars a month or six hundred dollars a year. That's fifteen thousand dollars. Annual i mean and that's for fifteen thousand dollars in total return over nine thousand dollars down. That's great pretty amazing. So yeah this is just a great deal. We wanted to cover because the numbers are phenomenal. It's a low price. Point is unique loan program. And i mean the barking dishes were a couple months ago. They write tough back then. Tough now but you've got the deal got in at the right time. A couple of things. I did want to mention is that he did us. Down payment assistance On this so that does need to be paid back if he wants to use the property as a rental so his plan is to do that over the course of the next year to eighteen months while he's saving money because he's renting out his spare bedroom he's going to have enough saved up to toe hopefully be able pay that back grief And then the other thing is just looking at this key was paying. I think nine hundred or a thousand bucks a month in rent and his mortgage now is a little bit higher than that about twelve hundred with all in and so again renting out a room. He's already decreased what he was paying in rent. Buy almost half. So is this plan to do this. And then once it's been on paid off and saved up go out there and repeated again exactly i mean that's i mean that's good for him and this is i mean these numbers they work so if you guys want to get creative out there we on the market stuff but you're able still go out there and get good deals done. That makes sense in the big picture of your investment profile and also just you know what we have going right now in the denver market as well any final thoughts just that house hacking is creatively. We're looking for deals and everywhere we ran so it's not always the five bedroom house that you are renting out every room that you can do it with a two bedroom condo great stacey thanks so much thanks chris.
Long Wildfire Seasons Also Mean Extended Periods Of Dangerous Air Quality
"Millions of americans are being exposed to tremendous rise in wildfire smoke. Rural communities in northern california are some of the worst hit in the country. That's according to a new investigation from our california newsroom from member station k. Q. e. d. Here's for jr evolved romero at temp addresses farm two dozen cows walking acres of pasture and munch happily on grass but last year. His farm a hundred miles north of sacramento with inundated with smoke but dresser says that led to a big outbreak of painful pink guy infections. One cow lost her. I all of those. The group of heifers every single one of them had it. Scientists say that because smoke irritates the is it can make animals or people more susceptible to infections pink but grosso also worries about what the smoke is doing to his body. He points out that wildfires have burned homes and businesses nearby. If you smell smoke. It's probably not a good but when you smell rubber and plastic real strong chemicals. I just think that you know we really really need to avoid. In recent years glenn county where boudreaux's farmers located suffered eighty five days of smoke on average per year. That's up from fifty six days a decade ago. This area is one of the smoky places in the country. That's according to an analysis of federal satellite images the california newsroom partnered with stanford university's environmental change in human outcomes lab alison selana is the journalists who crunched the numbers cases fire across. The country are also now witnessing an increase in the number of smoke. Days that they're exposed to places like columbus ohio philadelphia in washington dc. Boston was regarding two weeks of smoke. You know less than a decade ago and now we're looking at close to a month so yes aware we in the in the so That was the cafeteria in a small hospital and willows near pedrosa farm. Dr jared garrison shows me around the planet. His he's the county health officer and says the smoke is especially dangerous for people who have lung and heart conditions. It is associated with sudden cardiac death so people just kind of dying all of a sudden. There's data that shows. This linked with cancer garrison says the poor air quality has hastened the death of some of his patients with lung disease here in california. The smoke is sending more people to the hospital. Our investigation found thirty thousand more hospitalizations for lung and heart conditions in two thousand eighteen than just two years before on hazy days vietnam veteran. Larry george is stuck inside his two bedroom house watching tv. If you feel like you're not allowed to go out you don't have the freedom you had. George has a chronic lung problem. Even walking a few steps to his pickup truck is difficult. You know it's like you've been running the channel. The were you failing you into were yet. So he's thinking of moving to illinois to escape the batter quality he'd live with a stepdaughter. The mega-fires causing the smoke are becoming more frequent due to the warming climate and if they continue more americans might also see their lives changed because of the dangerous air for npr news. I'm freddie the javelin romeo in willows. California the news moves fast. Listen to the npr news. Now podcast to keep up. We update stories as they evolve every hour. So no matter when you listen you get the news as close to live as possible on your schedule. Subscribe to or follow. The npr news now podcast.
#296: DDD: Analyzing Denver Area Rent Trends and Fourplexes in Loveland
"You're listening to the denver real estate. Investing podcast brought to you by the envision advisors at your castle real states. Dan what everyone welcome back to their dreams and deep dive episode. I got my coast chelsea scott chelsea. Good morning chris. How are you doing great. So today we're talking about a factoid. You brought us which is an interesting rent rent. Trend data. yep we're talking about a deep dive into a portfolio now through stated recently for client about should how should they optimize your portfolio by preempt the market rent or buy leveraging and trading so great numbers there and definitely some things that can accelerate people's wealth-building. Yep then we'll go and a couple of frequent questions today so i think muster listeners. There's no you are but they don't you know you're chelsea urine outflow now since division and you do a lot of like the people come in and say hey all these properties or this property. Loan what do i do. This is where you coming. How people optimize portfolio so. I love these podcasts. Because they're they're always there's there's every scenario is different every portfolios different and there's so many options yeah there are a lot of options and then everybody comes with the difference at a goals. So it's really cool to 'cause we kind of try to figure out how to put the pieces together. So that they can achieve financial freedom right so we're going to jump into factoid all right so rent trends because this is something i know you put together chelsea caught your eye. Yeah so what caught your eye about walk through it. yes so. I was just looking to see For my own properties if we should be increasing rent because i'm just about to hit the year mark with a couple of them and i was just curious on how denver was performing and so i was doing some research and i came across this great source that going to share with you in a minute. Here they kind of really spoke to not only it was happening in denver locally but compare in comparison to other cities in the country and then even broke down the neighborhoods in denver to show where some neighborhoods are really performing. Well and i thought it would be great for audience because a lot of our audience or landlords and have properties and they may be taking over into a new lease or new tenant or re upping occurrence senate and this would be a great just kind of current data. That shows what's been happening with. Ranson denver i also want to debunk some just theories out there. That may be denver's not performing optimally right now or that. Something during cova may have happened with some of the addiction issues. That people were having but overall denver's trending really well. And i wanted to show people that data all right. Yeah so tell me when they click next slide okay great so this psalm and thanks for doing that so the stores here is called apartment list and i don't know if anybody is found. I recently came across them in my research. And i really love their data It's super comprehensive. It's super in depth I just grabbed a few of their slides. But if you go to their website you can really find a lot of kind of interesting facts and data points on rents This is not only in denver but nationally. so you can look at the entire nation if you're maybe invested in other cities or have looked in investing in other cities So this here is basically a year snapshot. June twenty twenty two june twenty twenty one and you can see obviously with the dip that rents took Even took a little bit of a dip of the beginning of this year they have now rebounded quite substantially In the country as well as in colorado and in denver and number has seen about a five point eight percent rent trend trending upwards between last year and this year at this time. So there's some significant recovery. that's happening here in denver and it also emulates the state of colorado which is doing really well to the statewide. Were up nine. Point five percent which is above the national average. So we're doing we're doing really well So that's kind of the big picture. I wanted to start with the distortive. Compare the country The state and then down to the city and the denver metro. So do you know for the says. Denver's that just for denver metro is actually for denver counties slash city. It's metro we're going to break that. That's a great point so let's go to the next line and then we'll talk about that so that is denver metro and you can see It's right there in the center of this graph where you're comparing to other markets like phoenix colorado springs seattle san francisco san diego That have seen some significant year-over-year upward trend. So this is also june twenty twenty one looking at where the rent numbers are at the moment and so this is a median average for a two bedroom. So i just wanna put put that out there as well so a two bedroom. Average in denver is seventeen hundred. So if you have a two bedroom running above that Great if you're not at seventeen hundred on your on your two bedroom might wanna consider based on the condition and location You know moving toward that seventeen hundred mark and again. That's an average. That's the middle of the bell curve. But it's a really good number it. Just you know to look at and that tracking above you know some of the other cities out there in comparison whereas of course somewhere like san francisco los angeles san diego. Of course they have much higher rent numbers which is pretty normal But also right now have some of them have higher vacancy rates so But yeah but i thought that was just a great number and then if you go to the next live on amazon i i want to put out a few things. There's denver on their you sitting median. Seventeen hundred And shows that fiber percent growth austin's knacks which is interesting. I feel less than denver's the austin's probably been the craziest market but for collins is next month craft at fourteen fifty Medium two bedroom and the springs is at fourteen hundred for meeting two bedroom. Yup and what four been around that five percent year earring growth. The springs is up. what's that about. Four hundred eighty four percents. Oh right here for the rink growth right. That's so that's actually your a rear total. Yes correct your cargo for the total rank. Definitely some big ones. Okay so. I mean all on the front range. Just solid numbers. Were seeing rink. Growth beal in those three markets. So great great point. That's an awesome point so now this is where it's like denver metro and looks at the entire metro. Here right so it's breaking it out. Into communities from lone tree. Broomfield parker thornton westminster littleton englewood denver aurora in our data. So it's going to look at the different trends again that same two bedroom median rent growth. And it shows you that you know each each one of these when you break them out by neighborhood like littleton has done really well on the growth chart in terms of like you said year over year growth as has parker and that's just in terms of growth but lone tree has twenty three hundred dollars which i found fascinating but the price of entry lone tree is higher than it is in some of these other markets. So you can. Obviously you can buy a two bedroom in westminster In in the denver area or in aurora For less than you could there and so to answer your question. let's go back. Denver is actually just the denver denver county city and county of denver whereas now this is the whole metro so going backwards that did just count the lines of the denver city and county so yeah so back to this. I mean again. Great growth overall Denver itself sitting county has seen some of the lowest growth in terms of of renting. You're comparing to say aurora littleton. parker you know those and lone tree because during with the downtown there i mean. That's that's they got hurt. The most when they did the unit that pull the average down. It's still overall five point. Eight percent growth. And that's a really good point because you wanna you wanna think about how it depends on your location like if you have a unit that's not downtown but you're in denver you know that doesn't mean that you necessarily saw such like low rank growth. You still may be seeing a better growth but the average is being pulled down by that That kind of mass exodus. That occurred all right. And it's next slide so this month over month in your over your rank growth so backed that five point eight percent on that top line if you look at denver again city and county. Five point eight percent year over year growth but in the past month between may and june. It's a three percent growth. So it's a little bit slower but you're still seeing growth even just month over month and you know. Most of them are trending around the three incest. Pretty standard across all of these different neighborhoods. County is Community is but then you can see some really big differences in the rear like we mentioned before that parker lone tree westminster. They're on the really high end whereas you know denver didn't hit as as high but month over month all trending around the three percent growth. We say in our spreadsheets and in portfolio analysis to expect an average three percent growth and rent career in denver. So when we say that if you look at those figures that's really very much in line with what we anticipate seeing more conservative compared to what 'cause were sitting over here yep exactly a year or something. That's that's you know. Always like the kinda plan conservatively. Yep and hopefully reality gives us a cheery screaming. Yep so lots of great date. Aren't here that we could talk then. Good twenty thirty minutes on the deep dive here. So you know this up on the video while these charts and some summary notes in the blog post as well so this is definitely worth a few minutes of viewing on the blog post gannett lots of great data into the turn number which is really really interesting. Yeah great so move it on our deep dive chelsea and so what. We'd like to hear the deep dive is really looking at you. Know either deal analysis visual property analysis or more report folio analysis portfolio. Is you know division. That iran and as you were thought clients to figure out what to do with their portfolios so i know this is a real life example. Now see personal details removed. But what is this client comes with him. What was the overarching. Like questioner theme. Yeah so this client has to fox's They are up north in the loveland area. And these two four flexes are under performing and not only the underperforming from iran standpoint but a lotta cataracts has gone into them and so that cap ex kind of expenditure has really been a challenge for this client. And so they've really questioned if the these are really worth keeping at that point At this point. And so i spent a lot. I've spent a lot of time looking into this Question for them and continue to do so and then this is something that we now actually are meeting weekly so meeting weekly with this client to go through these scenarios and talk about pros and cons We're actually gonna film a podcast later today. Anime use this same exact scenario again to look at the strengths weaknesses opportunities and threats of this these individual. Fox's so we're kind of looking at it from a lot of angles. And i really appreciate doing that because some really interesting information has surfaced as a result of doing so many different deep dives into this particular portfolio So their question is should. I increase rents. Should i Leverage up and ten thirty one out of them or should. I sell them. Those are really the questions that they're asking right now. So here is the first four plex. Just give us a little run down the proper Get all the right numbers on here but gives the high ones. We don't drown people and not in the details. Sure so this. Four plex has three two bedrooms and one one bedroom. And i wanted to mention that because the second four plex at this individual owns is our four two bedroom units and i think that really matters. I really think that matters when you're making these choices because you really can't poll as much rat from a one bedroom as you can to and so i. I like to look at this as you know this one. I might consider more less valuable than the second one. We're going to look at but it's it's basically three two bedrooms one bedroom it was purchased in two thousand twelve two hundred eight thousand dollars in. It's currently worth six hundred fifty thousand dollars so now there's no balance on it so this is full equity of six fifty so i just want to mention that that there's a really strong equity play in this in this person's position and that matters to us how we make these decisions. How much equity you have is going to affect your next step and so right now. It's under rented around three thousand five hundred fifty six for those four. Units market rate is forty four hundred. So when you look at that it's almost a thousand dollars under rented per month Its current cap rate is just under three percent and it has an annual casual noaa of nineteen thousand four thirty because it has no debt murder so about nine thousand dollars right now. Twenty nine no cashflow. Yep exactly right so if this if the decision were and we're not going to come up with a decision yet but once twist would be. Oh let's increase the markets to forty four hundred and bringing up to market does bring it over for cap and it brings it closer to twenty seven thousand dollars in cash flow. Okay so yeah that. I mean in that forecast. Rain range is bert. Should be yeah. That's right okay. So right now great four plex paid off get in lublin Six hundred thousand dollars worth of equity four plex number two k. This is the four to bed. wombats Okay so four bedrooms bass. Now it's valued at around the same amount. That's what the client. I had decided. We basically pulled six fifty as a number that we felt was accurate for both of these susan. Either debt on this one so the equity slightly lower. It's about two hundred thousand lower. We're looking at about four hundred and fifty thousand a little bit over of equity in this one so we're looking at about one point. One say one point two million of equity in the two properties collectively. Okay so i want to point that out because we're gonna bring that up late later during the podcast. But i just you know again. This person is was working with. Call it between a million and one point two. Let's actually go with a range of what they will walk with on this property and so knowing that this one is in a similar situation. It's under rented to thirty seven eighty nine a month little bit more than the other one. Because it's four two beds. It should be at forty six hundred again about one thousand dollar variance approximately cap rate. Is it about three six. It's cash flowing right out around. Eleven thousand seven hundred year. And it's an allying around twenty one thousand six twenty-nine year so you know it's got some decent numbers if we brought this to market grant. If if it was brought up you would now be closer to a five cap. The new cash will be almost twenty thousand dollars. Almost thirty thousand. I know why so you can see significant jumps so i just want to just kind of step back a little bit when looking at these and talk about the fact that it wouldn't be a bad idea to still bring these smart rants even if going to sell because you're going to get a better sales price if you if you bring up the cap So while it may not be the right choice to increase the market. Rents bring increased to market rents for this individual. They may just wanna get rid of these. I would still probably recommend that. They try to bring the runners up to market to get the best price possible. Absolutely right right. Yeah so okay. So those are the two properties that we're talking about an hour kinda going to go into some optimization scenarios and also sort of if we were to ten thirty one if that was going to be the option so now we're looking at that current rent versus Market rent and. I wanted to show really the variance right. So combined the two properties the properties together now the current analyze and the two properties together is forty one thousand and thirty one thousand on cash flow. That's to combines market rance. we'd be closer to fifty six thousand. Why and forty six thousand on cash flow so a pretty significant increase known more. Yeah that's not chump change. Yeah i mean it's pretty significant right. I mean i'll figure into totally we know you can buy extra drinks for the of everybody drinks much fridge. What your head goes so. Yeah so then the equity like i mean there's your equity position right there no matter what you do market. Rents are not. You're still you might however be able to increase that equity if you could increase the sales price as a result so we didn't go. There dislike too deep of a dive. I don't anticipate what it'll be worth if you increase the branson. I don't know if that can be done or if the owner even wants to go there. But if they did there's a chance they could increase your equity position. So seventy percent of equity on the two properties is seven hundred eighty seven hundred and eighty seven hundred thousand five hundred thousand dollars and i mentioned that because basically if they wanna put thirty percent down on a property like they could could free and clear just they could go and put thirty seven percent down and they could end up with a property that they only seven hundred eight thousand dollars. We're going to deal with that later. Just just put that on the side for now. So the multiplier for cash flow is four point five percent and the multiplier for two point five percent if you get this to market rent reseda. What do you what do you mean. I don't understand that like you're taking the cash flow in total and you are four point five so you could go up to four point. Five acts on the cash flow. So actually you know what. I think that that was before. Maybe ignore that. you're right. maybe that's not right. let's just. Let's just skip that for now. Because there was a there was i. I did some different playing with like taking a cash-out refi and i think that was from. Actually that when i was drudgery for your spurs okay so for the most part but you are definitely multiplying casual. So sorry about that. Ignore that you are. You're gonna. You're gonna do that. So skip perfect so to recap this from high levels of market rent your total and castle increased by about fifteen grand approximately ecu say about the same about one point one million dollars. Of course that's gonna penned on sales price those all that stuff but you know one point one gives ninety to play with. Okay so i see. This investor has You know to very nice properties that are performing well from buying them no nine ten years ago. Some options here for brampton market rent. But we know he is single equity. Yes which i think. plays into another option of leveraging. Up does doesn't before we go there. I do want to mention that again. There was a lot of cap backs that was expanded on these properties which is really good for the sale. Because there's a lot of stuff that's up to date now but that was another concern that sort of war this client out on the property is a little bit like they kind of felt like a little bit tired of dealing with this kind of maintenance and now want to move on and i wanted to point that out because that can matter some most people will say. I've had a really bad renner in this property. And i've had a really bad experience and therefore that could be a reason to want to make that change make sense so they want to actually switch and say you know it's because of their own personal experience in the property as much as the numbers so again we've talked about this other podcasts with other with other clients when when we've had guests on the show were talked about like life comes in as much as the numbers so while it would make sense maybe to move its market. Rents this client may be a little bit worn on these properties may wanna do something else so just wanted to put that in there as a decision making factor that may come in But okay let's move into averaging so equity to ten thirty one into larger real estate so again we go back to that one point one million great which is twenty five percent four point four six one million dollars in real estate evaluation. So what does that mean that means that this client could now transfer in to basically for axing. It's three point four three times right three and a half times there worth potentially the amount of were state valuation. They actually have and size up into something that large. I feel like there's like a. Wow moment when that happens. When i put that number out there because people don't realize that wow i right now have two properties that are worth only one point three million at the moment and now i can have. We'll only they only like only in comparison the fact you can turn it into four point. Four million dollars a real estate. I mean that's like that's the and and you sure right because this is a lot of people experienced this often overlook it because deal with real estate cafo. See a very big thing. People focused on the market like denver. You know we've had great appreciation. Yep should continue appreciations that equity to the money p your equity. There's so much potential there that you can. I mean going for you. Know a one million dollar portfolio to afford half portfolio. Yeah that changes retirement that changes it changes the whole game and it also changes your options so another thing is at once you get into the commercial lending space and you have properties of this size you now now you can leverage again to multiply that right so think about it. You just went three point. Four three times acts your portfolio in this one move now machu again. In seven years the night you can maybe go to eight or ten or twelve million dollars of real estate swap. Draw right and that's exactly and just keep keep keep going he moving. I mean go you just got to keep keep them them pieces moving. You really can. You really can make a lot of changes here so great. So what you nailed that point. They've got one point one million. Let's say that's what they were. They sell property. They get that they go up to hear. A new ran this narrow through a twenty three and apartment complex down in the springs yet. And it's just a deal. You've looked at recently and numbers about fit. What this client has. Of course you can go into multiple properties. Low price point all-star stuff but this is just going to be catholic very white kind of have like residential multifamily. And let's just scale up into a bigger property f-bomb to keep things simpler so yep trading up walk us through these numbers because this is this is rare. It gets very powerful okay. So now you've decided to sell your eight units and this is a twenty three unit apartment complex in cars springs so it's selling for four point one three million dollars which is basically right in the affordability space that the client can purchase so this particular Property in the the right up is bringing around three hundred thousand dollars per year in revenue rate with about one hundred and five thousand dollars of operating expenses. And i used a three point two five percent debt payment structure which in commercial loans. Especially if it's going to be. A variable is is very realistic so you could get a three point two five percent loan which your debt payment on that with twenty five percent down is one hundred fifty six thousand dollars per year so on the casual side of things thirty seven thousand dollars thirty seven six one seven so if you if this client decides not to increase cash flow from the from its current cash flow. You now just went up six thousand dollars per year in cash flow because the current cash flow at the rents said it's receiving right now are thirty one thousand one seventy eight something else i want to mention. Is that these properties that are currently in existence is these two four pieces are not very well located. They're not in the best place in loveland. So i had this conversation about. Do you think you could even up the rents to the level of margaret rounds. And i don't know the location would allow them to so that's another reason that you know making that transition may or may not be something that they can do so if the properties are the way that they are. The current cash flow is going to switch to a six thousand dollar cash increase. Now that may not be as much of an increase. People expect which this comes. This happens when we look at multifamily. Like people look at it and they're like oh i thought i was going to end up with one hundred thousand dollars in cash flow twenty three units while it's because of the debt and it's because of the operating expenses but in the long run the noaa that they're going to pull in when you subtract one hundred and fifty six thousand dollars of debt. Payments are closer. You're getting closer now to almost two hundred thousand dollars or about one hundred ninety thousand dollars a year of cash flow once they're paid off which is nowhere. Close that you're getting. It's almost three times. The number of of that. You're actually getting if you go back. And that's a really good point to like circle back around the emphasize calica a punchline or away for the show is that i mean you the cash flow grooming extra six eight ten thousand dollars year which is not that much more is much higher than the long moments. Paid off you've a much bigger multi. It's hard to compare you know real estate that leverage up the maximum five thirty percent down payment yep versus you know those other two properties. Probably like a fifteen percent lt altogether. Yeah so it's very very very low. Ltv very low value. That's right and so the cashiers be skewed on there. But that's different. Say paid off properties are going to be. You know. Cashflow heavy Lower risk yet. But if you're looking to have more money in the future more network more cash for the future leveraging up to buy properties like this. It's almost always the right answer. And i mean in real estate. We are all paying to wait. That is basically the game. you know. we're all paying to wait like you. Put your your investment into this. You put your money into this and then you kind of just. He put it on pause like ten fifteen twenty thirty years from now. Now you're suddenly it's all gonna come flooding in so you're basically just you're playing a waiting game when it comes to that but you are not going to end up with two hundred thousand dollars of i mean with one property in any scenario if i were to do this on singles duplexes triplex or quads. He would need many of them lincoln in the case before the total. I think fifty six thousand so you would need to three times. That stephen get close to where you're gonna get here with just one property so kind of phone. They'll move on to a couple of questions so for this client it. A lot of times depends on what the client's goals are. Because this is very different. Ryan conversation with a thirty five year old Versus someone. That's seventy five totally handle time. I'm happy to cash flow. Yeah they want. they won't be more conservative. Less risky for someone you know younger there. I'm still. I got town. My side i want to compound i wanna grow. So that's one variable at a lot in terms of client. Like what is he leading toward him. What his goals. yes so. I mean his goals. This particular client wants to increase his cash flow and so there is a little bit of a question as to whether or not this is going to be the best fit because they want more cash flow so we we have actually run through a scenario of some more single units and also maybe some other quad flexes and looking at that because one point one million dollars can spread out over multiple units. And so if you're looking at cash flow you are going to see a better return on individual units at this time at least the ones that we we look at there might be a scenario where you find a really great plex sixteen unit. That just has a really strong cash flow because it happens to be renting above average rents because of location. Maybe it was discounted for a reason because it was in downtown denver. There are scenarios out there that we can look at. The numbers might get a little closer but there are some. There's some serious consideration on looking for maybe ten minutes in ten thirty one here which is a challenge. I mean i. it's yeah. Yeah the are we. I know it's tough. I understand totally what her it is. Not easy but it would. It would increase the cash flow more and the goal for this particular client is to increase casual. So i mean if if you're right if they were thirty years old thirty five years old and they wanted to increase their net worth increase their leverage and pay it off by the time. They're sixty five so they have two hundred thousand dollars coming in per year on like one property. This is a great play. This is an awesome play. Or maybe they're in a situation with partners which is another avenue. Were exploring so we are looking at exploring. Would you want a partner in this. Use a portion of your ten thirty one funds into this one and they look at you know or one like this and then look at a few other individual units and. That's what i mean. That's just what happens is there's there's no clear answer now then you throw them all. What if this what if that. What if this and the sorgess comes down. That's great to like you. Now have the ability to sit down with someone like you run through portfolio bounce ideas off of them and run through thursday great here. Here's the plan here's execute on. Yeah so final thoughts on this chelsea. I mean portfolio. I think that you know you really. You really nailed it when you said the goals like what are that person. What are the specific goals of this person wants and they have a lot of equity to work with. And i'm such a fan of deploying equity. I really am i. I really believe wholeheartedly. Because money just sits there stagnant and is not working hard for you and you can really make it work harder for you. And so whether that's leveraging this into multiple different channels so it's like maybe a couple of singles maybe a couple multi may be other investments a qualified q. I can tell you what would actually work can. You can't send thirty one. I'm a big fan of all of that. It's just more the takeaways here are your under rented. You're unclear if this is going to produce for you you may be a little bit tired of these properties. Let's look at all the different scenarios before you make a decision. I mean i think scenario scenario planning for me is one of my absolute favorites. When you're gonna make a big move in real estate. And i mean people. People are nervous about it. They really are. I mean this is. This is a big jump. Oh this scout matter while the money in it's a huge the whole new. I mean there were some benefits. We'd we'd talked about here that you can run scenarios on if you're at eighty percent occupancy like how would that work because in these cases you can be eighty percents and still cover all of your expenses whereas if you're eighty percent occupied and you're single family home for the air and you constantly have like two months vacant that's gonna really take a toll on the cash flow on Almost maybe negate the cash flow almost zero. Whereas you're not going to worry about that here so there's always pros and cons and each one of these places. It's just a matter of like. Wow you know what what is really look like. How can i really make this work. And it's the results. Are i think really telling and really interesting. And i'm sure this person. I mean i know they wanna make moves so now they just have to find the moves. That are the most comfortable most realistic for them. Great wall chelsea. This is ben under their fantastic show with you. I like the rent trends. I like this deep dive into the scenario planning a lot more. I think they're just they're fasting. Not there's not a lot of people talking about it out there yet so it's always just unique content with so many variables to look at. So thank you and of course our listeners out there if you guys have questions leaving the comments if you need help finding appropriate reach out or few want chelsea to review your portfolio become scenario ideas. Zeno what i've got these properties. I'm not sure what to do on here. This is all reason we've been developing the portfolio analysis platform and we have big plans to improve it grow on it and chill just a great adviser helping people figure out options and then make them in game plan so chelsea. Thank you i'll some. Here's chris cheers.