20 Episode results for "Tustin"

Fireworks photo tips, even in a pandemic

Talking Tech

02:10 min | 10 months ago

Fireworks photo tips, even in a pandemic

"Every July around this time of year I usually talk to you about how to get great shots of fireworks for the fourth. Well this year as we all know, it's radically different, were not supposed to congregate and crowds during pandemic and many cities have cancelled their fireworks shows, but not all of them as I heard from my context on social media in suburban Los, Angeles in thousand oaks and Tustin is, show must go on in Bristol Rhode Island. The parade is set for Fourth of July, but the fireworks show has been postponed for late August. That said fireworks will still go off in the capital where the traditional DC fireworks show is set to be televised on PBS for Saturday night in many of you might have a fireworks show or some personal fireworks in your backyard happening locally, so that said on with my show. Most of you listening will WanNa get shots on your smartphone? So I've got to basic great tips for you. The easiest shoot a video and you'll miss nothing. Then take a frame grabber screen shot of the best moments later if you WANNA, still. Number two fireworks are tough. They fly across your screen fast in their heart capture. Sounds, look, call for burst mode, which lets you shoot multiple images in rapid succession to do this. Just keep your finger down the shutter. And finally if you want to be the coolest person on your block, try shooting the fireworks in time lapse mode in watch the world fly by at super high speeds. You can't do it without a tripod. Though just mount your smartphone. Click the time lapse button and let it roll the entire time. My overall recommendation this year. Is the stay safe? Skip the crowds, and if you need to see fireworks, please watch them on TV or youtube better yet. Hold onto the tips in your pocket and take your fireworks photo. At another time of the year I'm Jefferson Graham Happy Fourth of July, everyone looked for me on twitter where I'm at Jefferson Graham. You've been listening to talking tech. Please subscribe the show wherever you listen to online audio and I'll be back tomorrow with another. Quick it from the world attack.

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Success through failure, innovation and imitation

Talks with Petri

1:12:52 hr | 6 months ago

Success through failure, innovation and imitation

"Hello and welcome. I'm your host Petri and this so helps you to build your company in this episode. We are looking back in order to look ahead. I'm with you on load-bearing whose latest book open. The story of human progress has just been released. It's one of the most important and timely books. I would call a day of the year. We talk about entrepreneurship Innovation failure and success and much more. Let's get started. How you doing very well. Thank you. How are you? Not bad at all. I'm just thinking why we have to always fail in order to succeed. Because I think that any type of learning process must be built on experiments and often crazy experiments need to go any further. You know what bye-bye Nightingales sing. So well researchers recently looked into this, you know Nightingales up here in the North Lake don't want to spend the winter time here. I moved to Africa that for a while and the interesting thing is that the researchers have found that they keep on singing main Nightingales keep on singing in Africa, even though they don't fight over the edge of the females there. They don't fight of a territory or anything. So why do they do it? Well, they've learned that they sing in weird ways crazy ways new syllables and noises off. Most of it doesn't make any sense and it turns out that The Nightingales they spend the winter time experimenting with new strange noises and new songs. Yep. Most of them fail miserably they they don't make any sense wouldn't attract any female Nightingale, but once in a while, they find that great pitch and then they returned back to Sweden or Finland and they sing that great song and they get new territory and lots of females and and that's how they win out in the end. So if she even The Nightingales have to experiment and most of the time fail to make progress. Well, then I think it makes even more sense for humans to do it off in your latest book. You also saying that homo sapiens is basically Tustin under pernah by another name. What do you mean by that? Yeah, I think we are Traders by Nature. We've come this far only because we innovate and we imitate life and that's the two things that really sets us apart from well, even The Nightingales and everybody else in the animal kingdom. We have an amazing ability of systematizing knowledge that we learn from our experiments and our failures and to learn from each other and to imitate the others and and the great ideas that they have so that any time we someone stumbles onto a better idea. We we all learn from it, you know, we compared to the animals we were not very quick. If not, very strong. We don't have an actual pants or we can't even fly we were bad at swimming but we do have something else we have each other and the ability to birth. And steal the best ideas and insights from others and combine it with our own and then move forward. I find it you call that in the book as a culture. That's the definition of money, isn't it? Yeah, I think it's this is really this is cultural Evolution. I mean every animal has this Natural Evolution, whereby the body and the instincts and what-have-you develops and in some sort of adapting to the environment, but then thanks to three things that develop specifically in human beings intelligence communication and cooperation. We stepped onto the new level of cultural Evolution. You can see that in your mirror when you push yourself into the mirror, you can see why we are superior because we actually have whites in our eyes. We have white Sahara surrounding wage. The cornea of the eye and that sets us apart from the other animals, you know chimpanzees in the other Apes they have brown sclera. So as to hide their gaze from others in contrast human beings at some point in our Evolution, we started to benefit from broadcasting our attention to others. Whereas the shrimp as he wants to hide if they find out there's prey to eat or potential partner. They want to hide it so that they can get it for themselves and nobody else deals it but because of our ability to cooperate it makes sense that everybody else notices when I look at a potential prey for example, or a predator because then we can cooperate in encircling it throwing stones at it. And thereby way we can make much faster progress than everybody else and learn from what everybody else is seeing and doing so then we can accumulate so much knowledge and whenever yep. About it stumbles onto something that improves the world. Well the rest of the world can learn from that as well. What was the most surprising thing you learned while you were doing research for the book in a way the thing that the big surprise that I built a lot of the book clubs around is about a previous misunderstanding that I had about the world where I thought of modern development Enlightenment the Industrial Revolution and on were liberal democracy has a very Western eurocentric development and that's because just like so many others. I started to read history in reverse because it happened here. I wanted to find so what were the the stepping stones and the ladders that we climbed to to reach this place and then obviously it's not difficult to find it you that sort of the Renaissance and the Italian city-states and wage Magna Carta and the Roman Empire and the Greeks and there you have it one nice single trajectory that puts put put us here, but then when I Wanted to read history. I I stumbled onto a couple of problems with this attempt to read history. One of them being that I had to explain away 1000 years for basically. Nothing happened in Europe even went into reverse our our development of scientific knowledge our Commerce and so on and also the fact that these things these Stepping Stones these letters so to speak they happened in almost every other culture historically and that was a little bit troubling troubling 5 for my to my perspective. I could see that it happened in the Pagan cultures. It happened in confusion cultures. It happened in the Muslim Abbasid caliphate and walk. It happened in in Catholic and Protestant and places the song dynasty in China one thousand years ago when Europe was so poor that most of it wasn't even interesting to read. For Nomads on Horseback at that time. There's Chinese song Empire already had the nautical Compass the printing press and suck and they fought with gunpowder the three inventions that Karl Marx thought ushered in Western Bourgeois capitalism writing in the 1860s. So that tells you that we've had Golden Ears everywhere throughout history. It's just that in most places. They were destroyed by The Establishment and by reactionary that clashes it didn't happen in Europe and that's what set us apart. Not any sort of simple trajectory, but it was not because of lack of trying that's what I learned from the book as well. Obviously this incompetence and people in power who wanted to keep things because it was so good for them. But but you can probably explain you know, how that happened because I think that was really cool. Fascinating. I think I can see paralyzed for for what's happening here at this point as well. But let's check the history. Yeah, it's in every single culture. There is something wrong card was lower after they did technology historian Donald Cardwell and it says that Innovation always faces resistance from the groups that think they stand to lose from it. And that's all political and religious and leads to think that their power is threatened or the old businesses with old Technologies and and work skills and trade unions who don't want any sort of innovation. So there's always this tension within every culture between open and closed and then in certain places that backlash that God will in law that page faces so much resistance that it's destroyed but in some places it managed to survive often, we think that sort of it must be something about the European wage. Beats religious and political and Commercial Elites during the Renaissance the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution that they must have been wise or thought about things more long-term than in other places. But know when you look at the record date for just as hard as the Chinese Emperors and the car lifts and the robber barons in other cultures, it's just that the European Elites were much worse at doing this they they fail they couldn't keep up with that Innovation and that's partly just because of life because Europe was a more decentralized place with more independent political entities independent cities universities and always some sort of rivalry between them, which meant that when the Chinese emperor thought that now we are being threatened by this Innovation. Let's stop it. Well then a whole continent birth Abided by his ruling but when the French King said the same thing the troublemakers could always move across the border and moving to the Dutch Republic or to England thought it was always difficult to coordinate oppression and repression in in Europe. I think one of the most fascinating examples in history is how China ago I gave up. It's the greatest Armada that the world had ever seen, you know, they traveled the world half a century before Columbus. Did they took the bigger boat? Enormous weather like 250 at least? Yeah. Yeah the flagship of saying. Hey, I think it was some one hundred three point five meters compared to Columbus Santa Maria 20 meters. So basically the rudder of Jamie Hayes Flagship was bigger than the whole of Columbus boat, but Whole Venture they could have discovered. The new world was all shut down because of a power struggle within in among the rulers and China and the emperor just said stop and the greatest amount of the world has had ever seen rotted and some of it was burnt and and some tried to do that in Europe as well. They weren't that interested in this sort of pumping lots of thoughts into these dangerous and risky Ventures. Columbus had a hard time sort of trying to find his his West Watson Road road to to Asia as well. He couldn't find anyone that his own Italy to sponsor his trip. So he asked the Portuguese king and the Portuguese King said no, that's stupid. Let's not do that had this been China that could have been back of it, but he could continue in a fragmented Europe to search for sponsors. So he went to England to France and he was turned down again, and he went going from King to King for some twenty years until birth. Eventually the Spanish King said yeah, why not? Let's try this and the rest of course is history. This is exactly like the another day in a start-up life. I'm doing going from King to King. Mr. To investigate knocking on doors and nothing is working and everybody's against your nobody wants to do, you know, nobody is home interesting what you doing? Because it's too weird to strains. So we'll just keep on pushing exactly at least you can take some comfort in the fact that you don't have one single mom to go to the Chinese emperor where you have to kowtow to him and try to impress him. There are alternatives while you are doing research. Did you find out how close it was off how sort of a dangerous place the situation that because when China closed down it was chinggis Khan who basically just took bits and pieces off. All the cultures and didn't he actually then bring it back to Europe and and you know, all the all the developments which were happening. So has there been sort of like close close calls in a way that they could basically lose all of the knowledge. So most of the knowledge and become like those manias. Yes, it has been very close and I would say that probably sometime late 16th century and early 17th century. It was very close that Europe went the same way as the each other cultures that fail and that was because then it was fairly close that a single house Royal House got control over the continent and this was then the Habsburg family and they rained on so many different Thrones at that time. They were in, Georgia. Spain and the control then Belgium and and the Dutch and they control the Holy Roman Empire and Austria and so on and off they were fairly close in attacking and submitting France to its rule as well. And at that point some historians say we could have gone the same way because then they would have oppressed in in a synchronized fashion across the whole continent. The the Thirty Years War at the same time. It almost ruined Germany and Austria and wasn't much left there. We saw an increase depression from both Protestants and Calvinists and and Catholics are try to to keep in touch with with others and independent-minded eccentrics. Like Giordano Bruno was killed and famously Galileo Galilei had to apologize for for his dog. So it was close. We were saved perhaps in this version of the story perhaps it wouldn't have worked long term anyway, but I thought we might have been saved by the Dutch because the Dutch the Dutch they rebel against the habsburgs at this time. They didn't like the idea that the Spanish Inquisition and high taxes were coming for them. So they reveled and they started to fight back and for a during a couple of decades, they through innovation in finance and in shipbuilding, they managed to create the out of nothing. Basically they they had nothing they didn't even have land they had to build it with shovels and but with Innovative methods and commerce, they built the richest country on the planet and they fought back the hapsburgs and created an independent Dutch Republic and because of that they also log Basically invaded England in 1688 the English the British they don't want to admit to this but that's actually what happened during the Glorious Revolution because England and France very close to an alliance to destroy the independent-minded to touch but then William of Orange the Dutch leader invaded England with more than five four hundred ships wage and with the help of the British Parliament, but that's sort of Saved England from the possibly believe or authoritarian despotism of the Stuart Kings and and then England became more Dutch and was more open for the enlightenment thought the Industrial Revolution as well in the book. You also mentioned that that's fleet was enormous. It was bigger than what it was. Fifty million other nations together. There was a German France and was explained as well at least and 1.5 million people manage to do that cause I'm actually sitting now in a place which is pretty much the one point five million Estonia and Estonia is kind of leading the distribution from the government side. So good Estonia be the new dots in a way that no we enter into the digital. Area in really because of Corona Tisha kick-started this this phenomena that we're everybody's pretty much isolated. And now we need to do virtually everything off the nation's borders and the physical locations. Don't matter that much. Do you think that's something like that happening or do you see anything from the history that we could maybe learn or see that could happen when he has this is the lesson of History. It's not about numbers. It's about what those numbers represent in terms of of birth Innovation and ability to to create the new but the Dutch they were 1.5 million people but they managed to create a fleet that was based on the combined fleets of Spain Portugal France England and Germany with a combined population of something like fifty million people in the difference was that the Dutch had institutions that wage Possible for Innovative and eccentric people to come up with new ideas and then quickly to find through decentralized sources funding for them and to put them into practice. So for example, they had better shipbuilding techniques. They reduced the time of of cutting beams by something like 90% And they did it at a half the cost whereas, you know, those other places in Spain Portugal France England and Germany. They protected The Old Ship Builders with through guilds and regulations and Thursday or they want us Innovative. And therefore the Dutch could resist the simultaneous French and English invasion in the 1670s. And I think that tells us something about a country like Estonia today. It's not really I mean, there's some strength in numbers, obviously the more people the more people that are have couldn't stumble onto new ideas off. If you are open if your systems are open and your minds are open, then you can make look to the rest of the world through exchange and communication and constantly being in tune with what goes on in other places and use and borrow and steal and their ideas and combine it with your own. So then I think they open back of a place like Estonia could be the decisive factor in the long run often times. Actually. If you are if there are fewer of you and perhaps even feeling a little bit vulnerable close to Major powers that sharpens mine's a little bit and it makes you perhaps a little bit more open to innovative ideas that can make you more powerful. What's that the case with dots as well. I think they took quite a bit of immigrants. So it was not such that they did all the brilliant things. They just got a lot of other people to help wage. Man that was in Innovative platform. If you will, this is the same thing in Estonia. It's a tiny place. The local market is so tiny that you cannot do anything here, you know, if you want to have any success you have to go immediately approved. So the mindset is exactly that you have to go elsewhere and and there's not much here to do by itself. Is this the only way to actually make this happen or other actually in in in history lessons where you could Come from Rich environment and not sort of out of necessity. Could it be Norway? They have all the oil money and no it's not exactly the necessity to do things in a sense of other places in the world. Yeah. I think that it's it's not the resources that you have. It's not even the people you have. It's it's what you do with it. And again go back in history to to the Dutch everybody thought that they would fail because they were few at first just 1 million. So they got five hundred thousand immigrants and increased their population that way they didn't have any natural resources. They didn't even have land but they had openness to new ideas and to openness to surprises wage and that works that functions everywhere where you create these links through with with the rest of the world and back then it was often a republic of birth. That's where you're most Innovative thinkers and Engineers began to correspond through the new commercial postal system with with with people in in other parts of the world and thereby accumulating more ideas and knowledge. Now, obviously you can do that better with digital technology. The one thing that doesn't suck is oil money. I think that's the the having too much natural resources. That's that's bad for you in in several different ways. One of them is that it poisons off every discussion. I can't enter taxi from the Oslo Airport without facing a discussion with the driver about what to do with the oil money. So it focuses. The wrong things on Distribution on spending rather than on creation and also there's always this temptation and a name. And vulnerability that this destroys other sectors of the economy because talent and resources just goes into that sector and also it's then has an effect on your currency. So it gets more difficult for other exports than that the particular one oftentimes those countries with too much resources just end up fighting over the spoils instead of creating new ones. Now Norway was lucky because they they found oil a long time after they had created stable institutions of rule of law and democracy. So they just made it they survived but it's it's not for everybody because it it's often poisons your culture. You've been traveling quite a bit doing internationally globally things for many years decades. Can you give some thought eyes knowing so much about history and knowing that we are quite having a bit of a challenge these at this year starting to new decade and sometimes it's a good time to start new businesses. Sometimes good time to build new things wage. There's a lot of volatility in the market then also in the political systems and around the world. What is the good place to have as a base if I could move anywhere in the world now, where should I start my business? What is a good base to build something? I could actually probably get people around the world now they can live wherever they like, but you know, where should I head that Europe or are we going to the what happened to China after the Song Dynasty? Well Estonia is not a bad place to be I would say with the kind of mind-set that exists there compared to too many other places. I think the problem with much of Europe is that it's so fixated on past triumphs old Empires. So that were successful now being somewhat nostalgic and fighting to protect their old model and that makes sense from a human perspective. You you want to do that obviously, but that might make it difficult for you to reach the next level and to to see the new opportunities that are being created Estonia doesn't have that. It's a much younger generation with a better spirit. I would say but I think there are countries like that all over the world, but the great risk is a business as a country as a chief also is that you become sort of used to your own successes and they devour you they destroy you because you constantly want to repeat the same kind of thing and that's how many great societies and businesses have been undermined historically you you want to protect the old. I mean, it's it's so easy to become the Kodak of the World song. Destroyed by the digital camera and then obviously that the great irony of that story is that Kodak was one of the Pioneers with a digital camera off they had it they could do it they could develop it but they just thought no that's not our business model. We make most money by just selling film to to analog cameras and found that I think is what we do in all our society's sort of protect what we've already created in a great way. Unfortunately, then that might leave us all less than a tax in the long run because sooner or later someone else is going to pick up that digital camera develop it and turn it into something better and then you will be destroyed and so perhaps it's better if you bring your own business model than if you let yourself be destroyed by others. Have you been studying Africa lately? Is that the new golden opportunity for everyone? I think it's about when I talk to people in in several African countries. They told me that they are surprised that so few Europeans go there and they're telling me that the Chinese do obviously Chinese the Chinese government and Chinese businesses in a big way, but not just that it's also kind of the Chinese Backpackers almost looking for new opportunities in a scary wild environment wage, um, where it seems difficult and dangerous to make Headway, but obviously that's where you can make enormous profits off the long run if it works out right? It's a very difficult and unstable political situation in so many countries and that's the reason why we avoid it, but that's also what makes Interesting and to me at least it's somewhat depressing that we don't see a younger generation of Europeans making the same kind of choices sweet and I think it's quite particular case Sweden was really poor some hundred years back and then it became one of the richest countries in the world and had one of the lowest taxes wealth-x rates and and a lot of success and then something else happened as well. The welfare state kicked in but now Sweden has been renewing again. How can you do that? Can you explain because I think that's what exceptional or am I mistaken here? I would just have missed all the other nations who can do the same thing. Hm home know I think you summarized it in a good way. It's not unique, but perhaps we in this little bit more extreme than others because we basically went from until eighteen fifty basically wage. Are poorer than other countries and more heavily government intervention into the economy and then we open up faster and more than almost any other country wage and radical deregulation and opening up of the economy. And then we had one hundred years of Rapid economic growth faster than any other country than in Japan and then we became more extreme in the other way again thinking that look now, we've built all this wealth. So let's just begin to redistribute it off thinking about how to consume it and it was a miserable failure because suddenly the country that had grown faster than any other country began to lag behind the others rapidly and we didn't create a single net job in the private sector for almost forty years when We saw the result of that and especially in the great financial crisis of the early nineteen-nineties in Sweden from the left to the right politicians agree that wow, that was a spectacular failure. Let's not do this again. Let's go in the total opposite direction. And then there was a consensus on opening up Sweden again deregulating Lower taxes, and we got back to more of an entrepreneurial Sweden again, and it's not that different from what other countries have done. But we've done it faster and more dramatic in every step in every part of this long history. And I think that tells you something about Sweden that we are we have a tradition of looking for consensus. You don't want to be the odd man out in a country like Sweden we tradition of homogeneous population of small property-owning farm dog. You want to be like the neighbors? So when they became socialists you want to be a socialist when they became a radical laissez-faire liberals you want them as well. So it's like we have these more dramatic turns. It's more difficult to find critics and to be accepted by others. Would you critique the order of the day but once a sufficient number of people have changed their mind you want to change as well and I think that's at Sweden apart a little bit apart from other countries. That's really fascinating to see also that Scandinavian udics pretty much leading the innovation in the start of filled in the global scale as well. If you look to Europe obviously us is leading in the total numbers, but they are sucking people in from all over the world and everybody's moving there to most of the people are at least wage. To be doing that give me creating an going to Silicon Valley and enlisting their companies and selling them there but speed and has been really powerful in that sense as well and wage. Is it cultural or is it the immigrants because I don't think you know things are doing the same. It's not exactly the the dents and certainly not to Norwegians home. So what is it in your drinking water? I think there is something cultural and I think that is often a result of having been a very trade dependent country for a long time. Lots of imports lots of exports we learned early on that are big businesses are major multinational companies that were all you know, the old manufacturing kind that were all created some 130 years ago off. They were dependent on openness. We were too small a country to come up with the best ways of creating steel or telephones, but we can borrow it from other places off and we had to Hugh consumers to to rely on our domestic markets. So we had to go abroad we had to be constantly in tuned at June to what was going on in other places. So there's some cultural link there some sort of even when we were fairly politically closed Society. We were we had open minds to what was going on and off till it's the case that when the international companies want to try new products. They often try Sweden because we're fairly early adopters and when you have eyes wide open to what's going on in other places in an almost sometimes a little bit nervous fashion, you're afraid that you might dead. Miss the next big thing. Then it gets easier to catch the next wave and to integrate the ideas that are being presented elsewhere that comes with the the business Travelers and the immigrants and The Outsiders and to make them your own and the moment we started again then to open up the economy in the nineteen-nineties. There was a they could begin to turn those ideas that they often borrowed elsewhere and they said they could build new major companies again. I mean the sky Spotify King Mojang and so on. It seems that a lot of the nation states are closing down now they building walls. If not physical then they're putting some other types of walls around them. And this is catching like a virus pun intended. I guess. How do you see this decade going? I'll be no Club going to close down. Where are the new. Cities? What is is there hope to have this new Renaissance coming or? How do you make sense of this mess, you know where we are at this point looking, you know forward the next 5-10 Years yet. This is a scary moment in time and it reminds me of historical episodes where those golden iridescent said and cultures began to feel the forces of of close to being becoming more aggressive and they turned inward which resulted in nothing more than losing access to the brains and the skills and the Innovations of other cultures and that was the beginning of the end wage for for those places. There is something similar going on right now the great backlash against globalization and open societies. Generally, we can see both radical left and a radical populist right that have one thing in common, but they don't like surprises. They don't like diversity. They don't like wage. The fact that we live in open societies where what happens next could come from anywhere. They have a perfect plan for our future and and that's always very very scary. I think this is this could be a transitory moment. It could be a fleeting moment that just passes by I think those moments are often related to a sense of Crisis for the old model historically often great depressions or invasions natural disasters or pandemics and in a way we had now been living in a perfect storm of Crisis like this. We've had the Great Recession the financial crisis an old political establishment lost a lot of the voters trust. We had had a new geopolitical situation where it feels a little bit more scary to be Western than it used to terrorism wage. Migration crisis we've had the pandemic and all these things traditionally lead us to being more closed-minded because we bought when we become afraid of the world that triggers a fight or flight Instinct. We become a societal fight or flight Instinct. Basically, we want to pick fights with someone with scapegoats or foreigners off or we want to hide behind walls and tariff barriers because traditionally that's how we survived a particular threat because they had particular threat was often a predator or a a rating tribe. Now, of course, it doesn't make sense because the threat is a virus or a lack of innovation or something like that and then it doesn't make sense to sort of choice but to fight or flee but rather to cooperate and to find better ideas from strangers rather than beating them up, but tell that to age Stone Age brain, it's it's that's that's the difficult thing and then we become attracted to the demagogues those who want to tell us that they and only they can protect us against this dangerous world when that happens in one place it triggers the same Instinct in other places. Everybody want to fight and flee in the same manner and then there's an opportunity for authoritarian and populists. Now often that doesn't sustain itself because something else happens the economy gets back on track the we managed to deal with a virus. We have a new breed of politicians who managed to defend openness in a new and better way and wage that's the end of it. But once in a while the fence-sitters they who haven't made up their mind they end up on the closed side and begin to build those walls off. Create a more hostile International atmosphere and begin to stifle open minds and free speech and that's the end of those civilizations. Let's let's talk pets that not one of the periods that we're in right. Now. The one thing that makes me an optimist about the world as a whole is that long? I mean the world is a little bit fragmented we can screw up big-time here, but there will be other countries in other places who will continue to make scientific progress technological innovation and and great business progress. So the good news is it's going to survive somewhere. The bad news is it might not be us. And that's the thing. I picked from the book as well that sort of the defragment. It is good because then then you have more robust complexes than totally overall. They are more chances that somebody will make it like what happened in the in the Europe area in the industrial revolution and and the Renaissance times. So so I think that gives them up for us and the overall tone of your book is obviously kind of optimistic but it's it's also, you know, at least I cannot avoid the fact that much of the progress is not applied by a lucky coincidences and uncertainty kicking in and you know, it's not part of human, you know cleverness. It's a small like that, you know, we just couldn't, you know do anything else and it's just happened to us. Yeah, and this is something that never ceases to amaze me when you look at all the great things that we know all of us agree wage. Create a better world for all of us. Everybody hated it. Originally. Nobody wanted it almost except a few eccentrics because we hadn't seen the proof that it works and will improve our world. We only saw that it threatened the old way of doing things so it could be I mean the first vaccines we were and we still see her still wage against that everything from the credit card to internet from the bicycle to to the car the great majority and the elite thought that this is a worthless impossible or stupid to to quote a a management book with with the best book title ever and and had we had a boat shoot with everybody should we apply him and these new technologies and goods and services. Obviously. Everybody would say no the latest wage I heard about recently was the invention of the fork to eat with we had the knife all the time, but the fork was much more controversial and the pessimists archives great podcasts on in Innovation explained that when the first folks arrived people said no that's disgusting and it's immoral and it's dangerous you might pick your life and not your mouth if you use it and some said it's the work of the devil because it looked like one of his tools and when President John Quincy Adams began to use a fork in the dining room of the White House in the 1830s, I guess were there and people said this is the end of the American Democratic experiment because now we're off and and obviously it's hilarious to hear about how people feared new technologies and and Innovations, but we are not that different from them. We react in the same way when we hear about genetically modified crops or well Gene editing or electronic scooters or whatever because we always we can always imagine at the when we sit in our own living room. We can imagine great disasters coming from this and how it upends traditional way of life, but it's very difficult to see how it can be used in a good way and help keep people can deal with the the problems that will appear sooner or later. And and that's I think an important insight about human nature progress comes from eccentrics and wage only when they open up a crack in the Great Wall of of conservatism and managed to do it for a long time that the rest of us see that a wait a minute. This is pretty good. Let's let's use Thursday. In and let's make sure that everybody gets access to it because that tells us something about our inherent reactionary the reactionary in in all of us and and why we have to restrain it to to leave room for Progress. There was also this staggering statistics that 2.2% is the amount of social value the original Innovative entrepreneurs actually getting from the whatever he's doing two thousand and improved Society. You start do you remember is it basically looking back, you know many decades centuries or is it just from the thousand times that you only get that tiny amount of the total value creating? Yeah. This is this is actually a big quite shocking statistic. It's from home. I'm nordhaus Economist and Nobel Laureate who looked at Innovative businesses what he called the schumpeterian profits after the Austrian Economist Joseph schumpeter and his idea that progress comes from creative destruction that we Implement new technologies and businesses terms that make up the old ones obsolete looking at at recent Decades of where did the prophets end up that the Surplus that were was created how much ended up the pockets of the greedy entrepreneurs and how much ended up with consumers and the rest of society with savings and the ability to produce more and and his conclusion from this model that he's building. Is that something like 2.2% of the value of their innovation? Is given to the greedy entrepreneurs just to just a little bit more than 2% despite their first-mover advantage despite often patent protection. So it means that the rest of us just sitting at home watching Netflix and eating pizza. We got 98% of the profits from these new technologies business systems that were created in better business models because the profits for the entrepreneur is quickly completed away because I thought immediately people start to imitate it and create something similar but the benefits to the rest of society that's that remains there in place for for all of us which obviously begs the question. Why do they do it? Why do they work so hard and risk all their faith? Beings and alienate friends and family by working day and night to come up with strange new inventions and goods and services if if wage even if they're lucky they get 2% and the rest of the world who complain about their Creed gets 98% of it. Well, it must just be that they have an exaggerated belief in their own ability. Isn't that one of the things that make entrepreneurs stick or it could be the joy of of Discovery and creation, but that's so much or it could be and I think it comes down to a little bit of everything. If you manage to do it if you manage to be revolutionized a particular sector create new revolutionary Technologies You create so much value so many billions that even 2.2% of that makes it all worthwhile indeed. And also the one puzzle I never figured out is that maybe you can help me and tell me when you have made those successes 2.2% and maybe that's tens of millions or hundreds of millions or even billions in some few cases. What's the Earth's tend to give it all back even back to the society. Can you explain that to me? This is a very strange phenomena and I hear it all the time from successful and sectional businessmen. They say that look now I've become so wealthy wage through my Endeavors. So now it's time to give something back to society and to engage in charity and and or some other projects and and that's just fine if that's what you want to do. If you think this is the most the best use of your resources to improve the world, that's great, but I will never understand these judge to think that after having been successful. You have to give something back to society. Wait a minute you just created businesses and goods and services this that created enormous value ninety-eight percent of which went to society and you only got 2% if anything Society should give something off. To you. So I think this is the the same kind of Shame the sense of shame that religious and Marxist to think is have always tried to attack business people with that. There's something bad about succeeding about wealth in itself off. I think that's a great shame because the very fact of making profits means in a free market where you create where you got those resources from people voluntarily bought your goods and services. Well, then making a profit is proof that you have given something to society. It's a proof that you have used certain resources natural resources the time of yourself and of workers, you have used them in a better way than anybody else could do at that time. You have made sure that those resources birth. Being used in the most efficient way to give something to society to Consumers and to other businesses. That's that you should be praised for doing that not feel ashamed. And another thing related is the other side of the coin. This is also on Direct recording from the books two-thirds of the average person's material wealth is determined by where the world they happen to work two thirds. That's a huge imagine your quote or somewhere in Asia and or Africa or wherever two-thirds of your wealth is not depend on the or scales. It's dependent where you can work. Yeah, and that tells us something about the importance of the whole ecosystem of a functioning Dynamic economy. It's not you alone. It's not what you have, It's how you can combine it with what everybody else has their it's the the capital and the human capital in that society and definitely the institutions off if there are institutions like rule of law safe property rights and freedom to to experiment and innovate that makes a huge difference. So even if they you have exactly the same kind of education and human capital exact depending on where you are it determines some two-thirds of the average person's Memorial wealth because it's not enough to be a brilliant engineer or author or doctor if you are surrounded by birth A people who cannot create a the complimentary ability technology that makes your skills real valuable to other people and if we and that's one of the reasons why migration if it works out, well this one of those a quickest way of improving wealth in the world by making sure that people who lack opportunities in countries with bad institutions if they can only move across the border to a place where it's better then they can increase their wealth by some two-thirds and that's why some economists talk about open. My great passion is really sort of trillion dollar bills on on the pavement that we could just pick up by making sure that people end up in a place where Thursday. Skills are really used to the best of of their advantage. Do you think that's going to happen this decade because the physical location doesn't matter anymore. So technically if they you can not all obviously not all the chops and all the work Services can be provided remotely but pretty many can be so is that something you see that start to happen or can happen or what other things you think can be also hindering that development? Yeah, I think that The the web and the digital world has made it possible for us not to kill distance, but to at least slightly decrease obstacles to making people meet. So anything that can be digitized can we can now work from a distance with one another and make it happen in a in a better way and that's obviously of great importance to to the whole world and to everybody involved. However, not everything can be digitized and much of our service economy is based on things like meeting other people and you know, I mentioned doctor's office Abe you can you have to be there and to at least some degree close to the patient. Oh, I would love to have a in a remote dentist wage. We're not quite there and not yet. But that dentist can obviously read up on new knowledge about what goes on with teeth, even though that information comes from the other side of the world make use of technology that is being developed elsewhere. But that meeting is necessary. So it's still mostly for information that that we've reduced distance to to that extent. I also think that we've learned something from this pandemic. I mean, it's it's wonderful that it happened now and not twenty years ago because then we can do podcasts like this and we can meet with our Kang Associates and friends online. But at the same time there's so far at least a lack of the kind of surprised meeting log. That often takes place in offices and cafes and lectures where you bump into people where you suddenly hear those things that you didn't expect where you're suddenly surprised by the talent and the Charisma of that particular person that you didn't expect to meet and the kind of the water wage and I bought stuff second because we have a mutual friend and he's been actually in the episode as well. Obviously a godson. He explained in the episode that he was coming from New York flying in Europe and he just happened to have a professional clown next to him in the in the airplane things that only happen to humpers wage. Uh, yeah, that's what's the side to go quick comment that, you know people who have a you know listed at episodes but listening as well. I mean, tell what happened there. So yep. But I think I think that's that's exactly what I'm talking about. We need to meet that surprised clown on the plane once in a while because that broadens our perspective. We only walk around in our online world where we just look for the things that we know that we're interested in. There will be a lack of the Serendipity that makes many great things happen and met so many people who told me that their business was the result of of going to this sort of MarketFair this seminar thing where they thought that there were there to meet the speaker, but she was really the people that they met during coffee break that gave them this new insight or they changed business cards and then suddenly came up with the next thing to do and dead. We're not quite there when it comes to the digital world yet. We could be if we sort of continue with virtual and augmented reality and continuing with Samsung version of Star Trek's Holodeck where we can make use for that where we can create openings for the Serendipity but so far, I don't think that Tsum and our Google meets. Our teams are getting us they're going to pack it to the history, but not to the public history more like a personal history page will be describing the role of entrepreneur and the preneurs has not always been like that. I think if I understood correctly you have sort of the opposite View and that opened up a world of history for you as well. Can you elaborate a bit? Yes, that that's right. If I sometimes sound like a missionary when it comes to things like entrepreneurship and Global progress It's because I have the faith missionary seal of a convert who started to believe in the office. Tiny Marxist inside something like that. And when I started to learn about the world, but the one thing I knew was that big things were bad and sort of big governments but also big business and industry really ruined the World created an awful bad work environment and polluting the planet as well. And I I wanted to believe that there were some good old days in the past when we life and lived in harmony with one another and with nature and I really only started to change when I learned history would because you know, I am I thought of of the past before the Industrial Revolution say as as a nice Excursion to the countryside, that's that's much better than polluted cities, right? You've only I had thought that I would be able to carry, you know, antibiotics there and indoor plumbing and maybe iPad as well. That's exactly what my favorite bands and so on when I read history, I understood that that was not really the case and when I read up on my ancestors history northern Europe, I realized that they didn't live ecologically they died ecologically because when they had bad weather over there, they that meant starvation wage because they didn't have modern infrastructure. They didn't have large-scale trade. They didn't have high yielding crops or artificial fertilizer and so on and so on and off. Got me interested in the the horrors of history and understanding that I should be lucky to be alive right now because most people throughout history. They had a life expectancy around 30 years and you know by now, I'm older than that. So I should be really grateful to to this development age. Ninety percent of the world's population lived in extreme poverty. Now, it's lower than 9% despite incredible population growth and that God created and an unending obsession with progress and the the people and the institutions that make it possible because we cannot take it for granted because there is there's a couple of a few Generations that have experienced this kind of of opportunities that we take for granted and now and then so that's perhaps that's wage. Bit of a missionary. What is your favorite word? my favorite word that I love the word atmosphere. It's could be because it's an old Joy Division Song like it's also something there's some sense of openness in it. And I like the sound of it atmosphere. It's there's some home in it or perhaps Horizon, which is somewhat similar. What is your least favorite word? Can I mention a Swedish word? Yeah. Yeah because then I would say nipple which doesn't sound too awful in in English, but for some weird reason in Swedish, it's called breast vodka, which means breast wart which is the worst possible word for nice object and a nice entity that I've I've ever come across. What turns you on creatively emotionally or spiritually? Now I should say something because of my thesis about creativity about sort of meeting interesting surprising talented gifted people, but that's not it. I think it's going out and to run and exercise. Actually. I know it sounds very introverted but that whole experience of time doing it and letting them mind just flow without any particular object in mind and feeling the endorphins that's that's when I get most creative and if and if I can't do that a glass of wine might do it that Rick What does you off? I think that would have to be closed minded people and that includes myself in certain instances and includes people who agree with me as well. But who face every new challenge an idea with with rejection just because I don't recognize it. It's bad. That's the that's the one thing that ruins everything. I think what is your favorite curse word? Oh, wow. I'm not great cursor. My father has a great curse would and I use that once in a while. It might sound a little bit anachronistic but it has a tremendous effect on people and it's by faith Jupiter is that powerful? Haven't heard that one. What sound on those do you love them? I love the sound of my espresso machine starting in the morning my rocket machine that brings joy to me off and wait a minute know another one my cat a Cornish Rex when she's purring making that per sound that's that might be even better than a little bit like an espresso machine actually. What sound or noise do you hate? You know the sound the computer makes when it doesn't agree with your command I differ from complete. Well, yeah, well exactly wage and it has a little bit from computer to computer but it's kind of its lines. It back. Yeah, not all feedback. It's you're failing wage bad human. Yeah complex system what profession other than your own? Would you like to attempt well off of for a long time. I thought I should be a musician in an electronic music band like a craft Mark work wage and perhaps I would still like to try that but I think it's closer now to try something else a little bit more humble. I'd love to have a kind of a book club Cafe serving coffee and Wine And discussing books and having authors over for for lectures. That would be my greatest water cooler experience of meeting creative people and and and avoiding them by looking down into books. When when I get fed up. You should do that remotely. That's combining both or Walt, you know, the the service is done locally. It's remotely just Connecting People. Yeah that could work or perhaps a holiday would make it even better or sponsorship from rocket or any other off the expresso machine provider. Yes. Exactly. That's the essential what profession would you not like to do? I would hate to be a CEO of a major company because it's everybody else has a stake in you and you are responsible for everything and I'm so impressed by people who who managed to do it. I think I would drown in and and lose myself in that if you could be a co-founder of any startup in any error, which one would you choose? I'd love to be a co-founder of Plato's Academy in ancient Athens and pick up grade pupils. Like I am patient. Yeah upgrade to people's life Aristotle and so on. Yeah, perhaps that's too high of an ambition and they would see right through me like long establishment wasn't that for many centuries? So it's probably the oldest, you know in a no course of history. That's almost that that's right. And you know, it wasn't really formed like a company truck. So perhaps it doesn't fit your description of a a start-up like that. But it yeah, it worked for almost a millennia or something like that it took until Thursday even five hundred thirties or something like that when the Byzantine emperor shut down the academy because it philosophy threatened wage. And but being able to create something like that and you know having Plato there but particularly pupils like Aristotle food continue to sort of discover off and empirical sciences and many of the greats Humanities. That would be nice but I fear obviously yeah, they would look right through me thinking what what's that guy doing here? It's how did he ever come into our band any final words for the audience off? well, I Gratitude, I think it's an underrated virtue being grateful for what we have. We also have to be a little bit discontent because from this content comes progress we want to solve problems. But if we're not grateful for what we have then it's it's easy to get a spare and to become hopeless and to think that nothing ever really works and nothing can be done about the problems that we have. I think that's where we are when it comes to many issues in our around lots of Doom and Gloom and the planet is going to be ends soon. And I often think about look where where would I am being had I been born in any other era if I had a time machine with a ending up in arbitrarily it somewhere else in time how Awful wouldn't life be if I ended up in the past. If we look at the whole of homo sapiens existence has just 24 hours condense everything that has ever happened in to 24 hours then everything that created the modern world and off turn the lifestyle in our opportunities our life expectancy at more than 70 health wealth liberal democracy in Iraq. Will Liberty all of those things came in the last two hundred years and if we condensed it to 24 hours, that's just the last second. So we've had some 56,000 seconds when people didn't have that we were born and we live in that final wonderful second and if that doesn't suck To make you a little bit grateful for what the world and existence and all the innovators entrepreneurs and eccentrics throughout history has given you down then you're just a you're a little bit of a bad person. I think thank you Johan. This was enormously fun and great and a bit hot cheer any as well and that's an intellectual Just Between Us. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean. Thank you so much. This this was great fun. Thanks for listening. If you want to know more about you and spokes or even read my review of open check my website and you will find episode links and my book reviews. I also have started to do YouTube videos about entrepreneurs topics check them out if you haven't already till next time.

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A sweaty startup you can copy in your town

Run With It

30:48 min | 2 months ago

A sweaty startup you can copy in your town

"To run with it the show that brings you untapped business ideas from successful entrepreneurs by name. Is chris tustin. And i'm here with janney ethan. How you doing pretty good man. We got a really beautiful snowfall last night and this morning here in chicago beautiful chicago illinois or suburban chicago where i live. You know something very interesting. Which i wanted to share and it is not a lead into the podcast by the way Doesn't really interesting. So i expected the traffic. Were driving my son to preschool for the first time past of weeks respected the traffic to be worse because it snowed and it was actually the best traffic that we've had ever since we've been driving him to school for the past few weeks in bits. It's very interesting and it just makes me think about the value of understanding Counter outcomes of of things that happen. I don't know why that happened. Maybe because we're kobe times. Lot of people just decided to stay home or something like that but sometimes things work out the opposite than what you think they would be. Let's see if we can tie that back into the podcast somewhere later today. The obvious was something to do with the snow in the and the firewood. Anyways i want to in quick plug. I need to make a quick plug to previous podcast that we had eighteen. We talked about the expensive water bottle with jeff procter fitbit last week just released a insulated stainless steel bluetooth. Smart water bottle for seventy five dollars and they are sold out until february twelfth. So yes you're onto something with that. We had a good discussion about it. Now fits raking it in. We did talk about that about a year before it came out. So if you're looking for ideas for things that fitted might steal in the future. You've come to the right place all right. We've got william warn and michael trae on the podcast today. William is the founder of sketch effect. Is that correct. That's right founder. And ceo founder and ceo of sketch effect. We'll talk more about that. At the end of the at the end of the episode and michael today is an expert woodsmen. Maybe not whistling woods worker. A woodworker cold feet to the fire as we talk about this idea here which william want to kick it off sure. I can't pinpoint this specific moment. But i've had many moments were. I've either been preparing to have a guys firepit night in the backyard. Or maybe it's the wintertime in preparing to get a fire in the fireplace. And i go down to my woodpile realize i have no would left so then i'm scrambling i'm trying to find would a inevitably ended up doing something dumb. Which is i go to kroger. And i spent a lot of money for a tiny tiny bundle of firewood. And that's just dumb. I just think that's annoying. I think that there's a lot of would out there. You know people are looking to get rid of a bunch of trees and limbs and things like that yard. And there's a lot of people that want to burn wood fireplaces in fire pits in smokers and. I figured there's probably a better idea out there. Do you remember how much a lot of money on a bundle of firewood has been. I think with my kroger shopper card. It was five dollars for a bundle of like four logs. it was produced. Four in that burned in about twenty thirty minutes. Bought four bundles for twenty bucks in had maybe a two or three hour firepit. A lot of people i know. Buy firewood by the cord. Especially if you were going to buy the season and you frequently make fire. I think the the average price record is about three hundred dollars. Actually don't know how much how many logs in accord. I think may maybe michael can tell us. If i'm if i'm right in this. I looked up. They called it a face cord. I don't know if that's the same thing as a cord. But so accord is kind of the same thing i think face court sometimes is like a portion of a like a hafer third but a court is supposed to be volume void that takes up a four foot by four foot by eight foot volume. Rather okay so that's what occurred is supposed to be. Yeah those things are on hundred and ninety dollars for mixed hardwoods. I got to twenty for oak to fifty for red l. So yeah up to three hundred dollars but perhaps a little bit less. That's the episode. Run with it. Let you guys know how much what is. I glad you brought this idea. It's a i think it taps into a larger movement which is where i would steer the idea a little bit too making use out of wood that otherwise would end up in a landfill or whichever right now. If you have a tree that you need to cut down it's either it's dead and your word is gonna fall over and hit your home or for some other reason needs to cut down. Maybe it's unsightly. You have to pay an art abreast and that's expensive and then for the arborist they they don't have a good way of using that what they don't have anything that they're going to do with it so typically it's just a cost for them to dispose of it and at the same time where buying all of this would high quality would from overseas spending a ton of money on on that would turn it furniture so others definitely an opportunity there to just use this would that we have that is going to waste right now and use it for firewood or even furniture wood pellets. All the other things that we that we use. What for things where. It's a kind of off company or a local even like college kids like going around collecting people's discarded old trash would repurposing it and selling it mean it's an age old entrepreneurial kind of spirit right you take. Somebody's leftovers and then you turn it around to make value out of it. And so in my mind. I imagine this amazing app. Were you can log on and you can click whether you want to give would or if you want to receive it and if you wanna give it you kind of punch in your address how much it is roughly the quality of it and then boom. The app works. I'm not an expert. But i imagine you know all the the gears turn and all that and then some local person who wants to make some money receives that request drives to your house in their pickup truck or whatever and then takes it off. Your hands didn't cost you anything in the now. The company has some raw resources to repurpose into actual firewood. And then you flip the flip the flip it around and then you're someone who's hosting a firepit night or want to burn wood and you click the button that says i want to receive it and you you type in how much you want. When you want it your address and then again a local delivery person probably will go to the hub. Whatever i guess. They're probably a regional hub. Where this were the would is stored in all that and then picks it up and then drops it off for a fee. So that's kind of in my mind. How i imagine this would work so i looked up like profit margins on firewood outline in. There's this guy from joe's premium firewood posting youtube videos in a lot of them have subjects like. Can you make money on firewood. And basically all of them are complaining about you make money at all chopping by what. I don't even know why he does it. If it's a hobby or whatever he just likes to complain or something. I think we gotta deal. We gotta deal a little bit with with this factor of how smaller we're going to go in on the equation. You know what. I looked into firewood and profitable businesses that deliver firewood. It seemed like they were the ones that were most profitable. Were the ones that are doing it on a larger scale you know you. Can you can pick the type of wood. You can do cherry. You can do walnut accustomed custom to you know restaurants things like that and it's It they they. They work on volume some just want to. I want to throw this into the equation here. Say are we getting ourselves. How deep doing want to get ourselves into the actual processing the firewood and if we do. Do we wanna play with the larger players as opposed to the smaller players. I think that's a good question to let simmer here. I want to introduce another business model into it. Typically on the show we just kick around a bunch of stuff and we're riffing so. Don't be offended. William if if This idea ends up in a different place or it might end up exactly the same place. But we're just gonna you know how fun thrown around aspects so in doing some research. Mike shared with me. This company called urban lumper company. They're based out of portland oregon and what they do is they follow around arborists and the trees that they would otherwise discard that they would ship or the until landfall and it saves the rbis money because they don't have to dispose of these giant trees. It saves them time. 'cause they're no longer in the ones responsible for doing that so they can get off the job site quicker do more jobs per day. So it's a. It's a huge benefit to them. This has been super successful. They just take those trees and turn it into. He's turning into furniture tables chairs cabinets dressers etc in that model has actually been emulated. In other places across the country there is The urban would network urban salvaged woods dot com. I think ethan. And i listened to the same faster at least yet. No maybe not the same episode but the would preneurs. Podcast county entrepreneur. William you send us on the most fantastic goose chase like i realized sending you down the rabbit hole. This is to shout out to the would preneurs podcast. Yes steve steve you. You helped us out with their research here. But this is a network the urban would network. It's a number of sawyers arborists. Furniture makers woodworkers makers and this lady that runs it jennifer. I forget her last name. She's helped a bunch of people. Start this sort of business. Where you can follow ann arbor around in and reclaim the wood and sell it and turn it into something valuable. I think that that is an essential. Part of this idea is is taking would that would otherwise be discarded Heart us effectively and making good use out of it. It's hugely beneficial for climate change. It's more efficient Lotteries why it makes sense and the downstream exactly what it turns into you can calculate that based on what the product streams will be worth right if you turn it into lumber has. Is that worth if you turn it into firewood. How much is that worth. turn into. What pilots how much does that work. How much is the processing required for each of those things i can take a long time to dry would before you're able to process it especially if you're in a wet climate so there are a lot of factors that go into place but there is an example in place for how to make best use of this would and it's not tapped out so the question is in you bring up bring this up and i maybe you alluded to it is. Are we wanting to pivot towards making furniture out of it or doing something else besides creating the firewood or war. Do we wanna just use that piece of the model of following arborist around actually do the firewood. Yeah let's speculate a little bit here. And then mike can correct us i would. I would think that there's much more value in turning it in furniture than there would be turning it into firewood. It seems like it'd be very process heavy to turn into firewood and the scale isn't necessarily there but if you have a giant log you might get one or two tables out of it and that's just much less processing and it's a higher end consumer it's much easier for me to imagine selling to the arborist because they have a very clear need and you're immediately gonna save the money and it's a smaller subset marketings way cheaper if you go to the arborist as opposed to mass market and consumers so there are a lot of reasons that i like that approach there is already established models that you can emulate to do so and you can pay jennifer. I think two hundred bucks and she'll teach you how to do this and you can start a small business in your neighborhood. Yeah i love that business model. I mean the thought of following the arborist narrows down your ideal customer persona to a very very small niche. We are getting a little bit so the thing that i'm attached to here is. Is there something romantic about fires. And i think if we if we go into the i. I totally agree that the custom furniture one. There's a profit margin in turning turning the collected would into furniture seems a lot easier to make a buck on than to turn it around on firewood on because people are gonna something people are gonna burn. They're probably not gonna have the money but But yeah so. Hopefully i want to get back into it. A little bit talking about the firewood. I think what we could do is become an intermediary between the various players. Be know you could include people who are collecting firewood from homes. A fallen trees things like that. You could integrate with companies that are doing this on a large scale. I ran across a couple of profitable firewood a seemingly profitable firewood businesses. But you know one thing that they had. They had on their website. Something interesting they had different features of the would almost like you might see in in an app. You know it's cherrywood and this is the dry time this is the odor that it has right. This is how long it's gonna burn in. It almost even had the appearance of. Oh yeah go to the app. And i can select custom select. What kind of what i want for this beautiful aromatic fire. That i'm about to make in the end there. You can also go into the custom side of it where you charge a little bit more. 'cause there's like a spoke customized service around what you're doing and you're paying for the would they're paying for the experience of you. You know helping them build a romantic fire. Yeah you could go that route. I i almost imagine this being less boozy than that like some. I wanna burn fire. I'm just looking for anything. That's dry and not going to destroy the earth. When i light it on fire so i'll give you an example the other day. My son really wanted to do fire in our fireplace. And i was out of wood and we literally went to the local park. There had been a storm there a few days ago and just some random limbs had fallen and we just collected a bundle of random lambs. I have no idea what kind of what it was. I have no idea if it was fancy or what odor would give off. All i knew is that it was discarded. Would eventually the local park service would come in have cleaned it out anyways. I told my. I gave my son a lesson that we were doing the neighborhood in active service by clearing this would then we threw it in the fireplace and burned so yeah i wonder I think you can either take this model and go very premium to where you do have that kind of white glove experience where you know exactly what she would or you want oak hickory or whatever you want chunks or you want logs or you want kennelling whatever and then kind of tailor make your heart or your your basket or you just say. I want something i can burn. I wanted in ten minutes and Or one and twenty minutes. I don't care what it is long as long as it burns your see i i could see you go either. The more premium kind of white glove or just the more like every man kind of gimme. Something i can burn route. Another idea is would shops that bill cabinetry and other furniture out of just dimensional would that they buy from a lumber yard at some point. In time you're going to have a piece of wood that's a foot long and you can't do anything with it and that becomes would scrap which is a problem for these places to deal with. They have to throw it out pay for their own dumpster fee and all that kind of stuff whereas if like there was something like a network like this what you're proposing where you can say. Hey i have. This would available. Come and grab it out of our. You know we'll keep a special trash can for it and you know something this up. And it's all dry chunks of mice hardwood. They're a little bit small but they burn. You know and those could be that would be available for free to anyone. Pick up so i think there's a lot of small little aspects of a general would industry. That aren't accounted for in how to deal with a lot of the waste for instance the sawdust could potentially be compacted into wood pellets for woodfired. So some kind of thing but that is from what i've experienced rarely ever happens so i think there are a lot of things to do would waste. That could be tapped into your mike. If you had to put a number on how much that waste would be valued at from an average log. Is that on the order of five bucks fifty bucks five hundred bucks. What would you say. Oh if if we were to cut it up and turn it into firewood. Let's say a furniture maker is the exact scenario that you describe. You've got what they came in and you've cut your piece using it for table or whatever and you have all these leftovers scott. How much would those scraps be worth if you sold them as composite. For instance are working on a mosquito table right now and we realized that we were having a lot of Offcuts were just trash to us in an afternoon. We filled up the fifty five gallon. You know trash can. If i were to imagine those six dollar bungles of would you know i could sit. Maybe a dozen or so of those six six dollar bundles. Avoid in the same trash can maybe more seventy two bucks. Yeah so. I think that there could be something there. And like i said for the woodshop. That's just we have to pay to dispose of that. And if you reduce how often you dumpster gets picked up and then you're you're would waste which is a green product essentially can be turned into just kindling or whatever for somebody's fire. Seems like a better use for that than in a landfill somewhere else. So how many times per day or per week. If it's not that often would you fill up one of those fifty five gallon. Drums probably would sell up to those week. But we're relatively small shop and there's a lot bigger operations out there that that produce a lot more would waste than we do. I'm learning a lot. I had no idea that the wood industry was so intricate peeling back. The layers scrape. Yeah that's what we do here. I want to go back to my horse here. I picked my winning horace. And i'm just gonna keep at the idea of turning it into furniture. I can picture that. Let's say you get this custom table made and with it. You have the story of where this tree was from. You know what kind what experience was how how old it's been. You know much more about how it came to be and environmental social and corporate governance. There's something with that within this idea. If you can improve upon this entire process you can make people feel good about the furniture that they buy in the same way that they can feel better about the meat products that they buy because the animals are humanely raised. You feel better about yeah. I would feel better about buying a table. If i knew that it weren't part of some big a forest clearing initiative. Let's say you love vacationing in asheville north carolina. And then you could collect. Would that falls in the mountains of ashville and then you could make an asheville table. This table was made from whatever tree that fell on. The you know the blue ridge parkway in asheville in you can charge a premium for that because there is a story and it connects into people's emotions for every single city known to man. I know before we before we hit record. I mentioned that. Atlanta has the highest tree of any major city in the uso. Let's say you grew. Lon you move away you could buy a table or chair or set of tables chairs that was made from harvested wood from a tree. That was in your childhood neighborhood or something like that. I've been living in phoenix for year and a half now. And i've been working here ever since moved here in that year and a half. We've done two pieces of furniture from trees. Were cut down on the same property that the house is now builds on so and one of them was particularly unique Built table out of slumber and fight. This is just a tree that any dessert. That's kind of an office plant so the fact that there was a tree that was large enough to cut number out of was something that was really remarkable. really interesting looking lumber. I've never seen it before. You can't find it online anywhere. So that's part of the rarity of what you can get from dealing with urban lumber to begin with Another saying is we actually did a table and a staircase for a house out of Soak their think there were three large. Soak up trees on the property that they built this fantastic house on the dining table. Stair treads are actually featured in well magazine so i can attest to the fact that there is a lot of interest. Can you know having that would or furniture the story behind. It reminded me of episode of the would preneurs. Podcast show listened to where they were interviewing down stock of the woodford. Podcast couple things from you. Would johnson be looking up. I'm shocked that i didn't know about that are thank you it was. It was relatively boring for me to ask you got to cut that. We're we're getting on here. We got a partnership. Gotta colbrad teacher woodworking. All right. let me tell the story of rack set. Kilns okay because i think this has multiple aspects that are interesting. First of all rack sak kilns. It basically started as one of these types of businesses where they would collect. They would collect. Somebody's would they would make from it. And yes that was exactly their focus. You know the tree that your grandfather used to play on and you know how to swing on and climb when when he was young. It's the tree that we made this heirloom table with that. We're going to keep you know for centuries but at the same time the the story Of their business goes like this. They were doing that and they had found it. Difficult to dry the would out. There was no resource for kilns in their area. And so they bought one of these customs kilns from i dry which was the actual sponsor of the podcast episode. Which i listened to which is a killing maker so they buy a kiln right and then they start being the local company. That dries would for anybody that needs to be dried. And at this point they've already purchased a couple more kilns and this has turned into the primary source of profitability for their business is that they're just the local resource for drying wood. And so what i think is interesting about this is just bring in effect of. That's come in several times in the podcast is it. That's kind of a boring business. Idea is just to like have a big shipping container size thing that dries would and you just sit there and you make that happen in. That makes you money as romantic as a firewood app or as a furniture app or anything like that. But it's just interesting to see that there might be more profitability in something like that. Yeah but that would. That wouldn't get you on the cover of a magazine kiln weekly. Come on there's something to be said for the kind of average joe business which is very profitable in not sexy but just requires a lot of hard work and attention analogy but But yeah i mean the next greatest business idea might just be doing a better job at this thing going for a long time or doing it better or more ethical way or sustainable way. There's an entire movement around that called the sweaty startup movement and it's very timely in that a lot of people who have those type of businesses are coming of retirement age so you may be even be able to buy a business from someone who. Maybe they're a milling shop or any other number of of sweaty type start ups and take that over apply basic business principles modern business principles bring to the digital age things like that and greatly improve upon it. I wanted to bring something into the conversation as we're talking about what a good startup ideas and things like this. We don't always talk about our guests startup experience. But i think you're yours is a little bit interesting for our listener to hear about william in your case. You have a kind of a romantic sort of business erase fun. You're you know you're sketching. You're being creative. There's there's a lot of fun stuff going on there in it in. It's a business that interestingly enough you sorta stumbled upon right so it's like you started doing sketching and in meetings and things like that and people said. Hey that's cool. hey you know what. I'll pay you do that. And it just sort of grew in you decided you would just jump on this opportunity to start a business. And so i'm curious about your perspective on just starting new projects. I know you might have had experienced starting products you know. But how do you think about do. Think much about starting new businesses because you didn't necessarily One of these people kind of at your job thinking. I got to be an entrepreneur. I gotta be preneurs. It just so happened to you. Any thoughts about starting businesses. As i never grew up hungry entrepreneur kind of stumbled into it. I'm a creative turned entrepreneur for me. It was always the product that fascinated me drawing sketching animating for your listeners. I don't much about would clearly based on the last thirty minutes other than i like to burn it and make delicious barbecue out of it. But i do know a lot about drawing i do know a lot about illustration and design and things like that. Our business really just emerged organically because it was fun. I like doing it. I since demand mostly amongst corporate. What would become our corporate clientele so yeah are entrepreneurs stories. Really just one of sensing demand providing a product. That people love in. The end is trying to do the best. Possible job with Getting that product into our customers hands to as your question. I yeah i mean now that i'm of doing this entrepreneur thing have been doing it for last seven years. I'm i love thinking of new ideas right now. Sketch is my baby. Were still growing. We've been growing every year since we launched seven years ago trying to do better trying to figure out new new products and find new markets. And all that so right now. This is consuming all my energy. Which is why this podcast is especially fun because it's it's a little bit of a a deviation from what normally consumes remind which is pixels and color palettes and things like that cool. What will have to be back sometime. You know one thing. I just wanna point out here and this is again my like tiny obsession with the killing profitability of kilns in a little bit of a theme between that story. I told about the killing business. And your your process of starting a business noticing demand like seeing that people are asking for something and wanting something and pulling toward something and then just trying to ride. That wave right. Oh i noticed that. I needed to kill the night. Didn't have one and then people started using it and now i'm building upon this sort of thing that's that's market is pulling for this business idea. So is an interesting tidbit. Just to think about entrepreneurship for those people that are sort of jones to be an entrepreneur. Aren't yet that to be on the lookout for business. They're almost starting themselves right. Where where there's a demand that's just cropping up then just trying to ride that wave as opposed to creating something from scratch. Think that's a great place to wrap here. William people can find you at the sketch affect dot com anywhere else that you'd like to direct them to sure. Yeah so I've been posting content for creative entrepreneurs especially folks like me who always loved to draw illustrator designer paint or animate whatever and just need a little bit of help connecting the dots business making a little bit less. Scary will bit simpler more. So that's william c warren dot com on instagram at william c warren. It was interested in our sketching work at the sketch. Fact dot com so feel free to check that out as well. Great willing to that mike. If people want to connect with you where they go they can find the show. Were cat at ironwood mills dot com and all were also on instagram at ironwood. Underscore mills interested in following me in my own personal projects on instagram. You can find me. Michael tori. That's spelled t. o. r. eighteen on instagram. Well it was a pleasure talking with both of you guys. Thank you for kicking around this idea and enjoy the rest of the day. We'll talk later on.

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#119 My Hammer Is longer than yours

Creators Collective

38:06 min | 2 years ago

#119 My Hammer Is longer than yours

"You call yourself a maker use Mel fair faren- Cohen chips, drubbing, forty five minutes. This is not your grandparents, tinker toys. This is a creative collective private listen up and don't give me that face right and Walker are about to demonstrate the proper way to create and if you have questions you had a in the live chat on the wise, I'm gonna plant my boot. So far up your hand that your mother is going to be crying now missing up you jelly Payson cow pies. And we're back for another exciting episode of the creators collected. This is episode number one hundred nineteen and we are going to be having a ton of fun today. Because apparently will has a better internet connection. Do. Hey, said what one word without breaking up. This is cool survey. Interesting. So yeah, we're going to be having a good bit of time here, and I do want to say huge. Thank you to our patients on patriot. Particularly Darren mates kill of Harris, if you can make this too and Judas grass, you're helping make this channel better. So thank you for that. Also, if you'd like to listen to us, you can do that on I tunes. Google play. Clouds, cloud, Stitcher, cloud sound. Cloud all those places or you can join us live here every Thursday at ten AM eastern time on the creators collective YouTube channel, and yes, we do pull most of our comments and questions from the the live jets joints there come on over and enjoyed the party. Let's let's jump into what we're what we're working on sack since you just joined us. What what do you have gone? Four x necks. I went up to shop. Earliest morning inserted. Forging a bunch of stuff. And then I just got the mess. I I usually always remember that's a weird thing to say usually always now. And then I got a message and I'm like, oh crap. The podcast is in like five minutes in had kind of like hot metal in the forge. Let's see what I've been doing. Life Ford's eight inch chef's knife the other last week. And I kept it for me. It's amazing. I'm happy with it. And yesterday, I wasn't really feeling motivated to do anything. But I did I powered through it and went out, and I have this book that I'm this Mark Asprey blacksmith book. That's they're really good. And usually if I'm if I don't have you know, sometimes I just don't wanna do work for money. I mean, I I enjoy doing that. But every now, and then he just I feel like you have to have. And I I don't do like the Saturday Sunday off. So I I will work continuously for, you know, ten eleven days at a time doing paid work. But every now, and then I'm just like man, I just don't wanna do. I don't want to do anything for anybody else. And so yesterday was one of those days so in despite feeling uninspired like I'm just going to pick a couple of things out of this book and work on them in. So that's kind of been going through it. And it's been really good really good skill builder. But then yesterday I wanted to see how close I could get on that same because I really liked that eight inch. I have a picture of it on my Instagram. I really liked that. And I wanted to see how close I get without grinding. So I- forged this whole knife with like, no grinding. Wow. Took me almost four hours, which is disgusting. It is completely unacceptable. Fester naked. I mean, well, you know, typically what you do is you you'd hammered out. And I'd say most people would would hammered out rough kinda get, you know, some blob edge, and then just kind of draw profile it and be done, and he could probably do that in an hour or so, but I really wanted to see how how little grinding I could do on this. And it was it was a lot of fun a lot of techniques. And I mean just things that you can do so easily in a grinder a lot of times to like the finger option. The handle is it was it was just good practice in. I feel like speed will come with time. I just really want to be good at forging as I can and a grindings grindings profiling things on a grinders easy. So. Yeah. So that's kind of what I've been doing messed around got Lindsay air graver. I can't remember if I said that last week. The thing is ridiculous. I'm finally getting the control of of the system, but the drawing. Is. And I'm I'm not like an artist. I've always been up at say a decent. I'm a decent artist. You know, drawing stuff and okay at it. But I've never really like tried to develop that skill set much. But with engraving and stuff, that's once you get the control system. It's really how much like laying things out and doing schoolwork and all of that. So that's kind of what I've what I'm working on. Also today. A couple more claw hammers, man. I'm tired of fortune. Still much extra work. But I wanna do something kind of wacky. So I have unfortun-. My main forging hammer, I have a two pound rounding hammer and I want to and a half pound, but I'm gonna put a kind of ridiculously long handle on it. And my hammers ready have long handles. But this is gonna be like only a seventeen and a half inch long handle on a two and a half pound hammer, which is crazy long. But I wanna try it. I think will be fun. And I decided I'm gonna forge two of them will probably auction the other one off. So it's going to be kind of a wacky one off hammer, but keep your eyes peeled for that. Because it's going to happen. Speeding. That's everything right now. What you got will. Baby. No I last weekend. I went out to well. I got an inquiry for a new live edge. Book matched slab table at a cherry. I've done one out of cherry before and one out of walnut. Had just finished up to walnut one that I've been talking about for a while and res- finishing that one up. I got a new increase for a new cherry when so gave them a price before I source the slabs than we agreed on that. And then I went to I called my normal slab guy. And he's like, I don't think I have any book matches. And then I was like oh crap. Seven trying to source those. So I went out last weekend to a slab guy and dug through the piles and found a book matched pair that was wide enough at the bottom like in the back corner of his stacks. So there's a lot of moving. Of slabs with tractors in skid, steers and stuff like that. But found a slabs, and I came away with some other stuff that he wanted me to play around with some blue atlas cedar which I've never worked with before. And I was worried about the pitch in it like gumming up like if you put a Finnish over it in the Pige, you know, missing with that he said that he hasn't had any problems with it. And I didn't believe him. So he just threw another slab of that in the truck. So I'm excited to play with that still working on the media console. I kinda took a break from that. Because my invincibles X carve came in. And. Yeah. So I thought hey, I'll just throw this together real quick. And that it's like a two-day build, right? Yeah. I put it together. So. Yeah. Jason from bourbon moth sent me a message on Instagram as I was putting it together. He sent me a message, and it was a picture of his X carb. He does you should just do what I did and have one of your followers on Instagram who's a mechanical engineer put it together for you. Because he wants to. He's like, I literally haven't touched this like at all. And it's fully put together on a stand in the corner of my shop. And as like main way to rub it in. But yeah, that I severely underestimated. How long take it took me like a good solid today's and then the instruction start out really really thorough in in good amend near the end of the instructions, I guess the guy got tired of writing the instructions, so he like would just assume that you had that you know, like to do certain steps. So I got I get like halfway through you know, whatever step this was and then realized that oh, I didn't do this. Because they didn't mention it in the instructions I'd have to take it all apart do that one step. And then, you know, report it back together. So anyway, that took that sect up a lot of time. So I didn't get much work done on the media console, but I'm hoping to get the mortis tendons cut and put together today, and then it should be some assembly. Some you know, putting hardware and stuff mounting hardware. And then taking it off second paint. Then putting all that together. What else am I working on? I have to go by my cheat sheet where am I area and I need to make some videos. I I keep I have all these ideas for videos that that I wanna get out. And then again that X carve up too much time. So I didn't actually film anything. But there are videos coming and. Yeah, I'm I'm kind of his ambi- because of the baby, but some rambling, but James what are you working on? Well, I'm finally getting to doing solid work on the bed. So I have the headboard and the foot board rough assembled so all of the tendons through the legs are done. And these things are huge for idea. They're five inch wide by half inch tenants does their large tens and they go through four inches of white oak. So I have to hand cut out ten mortices that are four inches deep through white oak and have the match on both sides because they're all through tenants. So it's it's been a fun time the shop and really been enjoying playing with different ways to make it a little faster. So hopefully that video becoming out on Saturday. I know I'm starting to work on the panels or the frame that the panels go into so hopefully that will be coming along here soon. It's a it looks like a simple project. I mean, there isn't that much to the bed, but I put enough little details extra pieces like the core bowls in sliding dovetails. And the the entire thing will be built. So that you don't need to use glue. If you don't want to I mean, I'm going to glue together headboard and foot board, but I'm not going to. But then the hold the stretchers that go between that are pinned in place. So it'll be be interesting bit. And a lot of lot of tight-fitting. Join ary big tight-fitting joining. Question. So you're gonna pin you're gonna pin the stretchers to hold the headboard in football together. Basically been length the length of the bed. Right. The decide rails. Would you say you're doing super traditionally? But would you ever consider doing like the metal bed hardware set for easy break down on the bed? I thought about it as I went back and forth a bunch of different ways on it. I mean, the the traditional method is a Tustin tendency of the ten and goes through the leg, and then you put a tusker it. So he can pull that out disassemble the problem with that is with this larger join ary, it means it's can be sticking out about three inches past the leg. And I didn't want anything sticking out the front of the bed because we wanna put hope chest there. And so then I went the idea of well, I'll just get some hardware in, you know, bolt them on or have clips that slide in pop down. And I thought that'd be kind of cool, but I really wanted to keep it more, you know, almost traditional join ary. So I ended up ended up going with the idea of through tenants that sticks out a quarter inch on the outside and putting pens in the problem with Pinson is they're almost impossible to pull out and you have to have a way of pounding of site. Will there's gonna be a panel on the other side. So you can't pound them out. So what I ended up doing is making. If you magin to pins side by side or top and bottom that go into gather, and the the pens are made of steel, and they have a bar that comes across and connects the two so kind of like a horseshoe shape with the two pins that go in and that way, you have that that grip that you can grab and pull out both pins when you wanna take it out. That's this symbol still has the tin enjoy Nery, and then those then they they look kind of like drawer poll sticking out the side of the bed and that then. Is a piece of hardware that it will tie them into the dresser sitting right beside it on because I'm using a lot of the same join race same carving. Shame shaping that. I have on the dresser says the two go together. And those pens will then look like drawer polls on the dresser. So bit of a connection between the two cool. Good explanation. Should be fun. We'll see how it goes. And I just got those in actually the the pin a guy in Europe who's making for me, and I can never pronounce his name lawn loan huddling to him in the next video. And then we have all started working on the flower box. So for the last six months or so I've been doing join ary in the live video each week. We do a joint decided actually do a project and since it's this time of year, and I want to actually put in a a small herb govern just outside. My windows. Open the window and polar immensely making a flower box amount on there, which make a good live video. So we did the the dimensions of the lumber and grooving next week. We starting in on dovetails and the bottom of it will be a pillow bottom so kind of like like a panel door, but on the bottom of the box, and may even be doing a video on installation. We'll see so yes, things are going pretty good. Do you have any questions? We didn't see the live chat. Jonathan twenty four was asking Zach about long hammer handles. Oh, maybe. Yes. Sort of Nick knows. I think that was ignored. So I mean, it's really interesting like the evolution of when you get when you when you work with the tool time, you get comfortable when you try different things, you have different ideas. And that's when thing I find that. I mean, I've always I've always liked lighter hammers than than your average like give me his big at the shortest handle. 'cause I'm I'm a man. Yeah. I mean smaller hammers can get into tighter quarters. You have more control most what I'm doing. I'm not forging anchors. So I don't need, you know, a super weighty hammer. But you know, having that extra handle really helps. I mean, really when you're when you're hitting something you're generating force. That's what you do, you know or kinetic energy, which I've said this million times, probably, but is mass times velocity squared. So however, you want to get it by more by Bourne asks for by more velocity, which is exponentially greater than increasing your mass. You know, however, you want to get that that extra energy by increasing mass velocity in a guess, I tend to favor increasing the velocity more than increasing the weight. So, you know, it's easier to choke up on a handle than it is to get have another hammer that's lighter. So if I really want to generate that force, I can grab further away. From the head on the handle and get a fast swing without moving. My arm. I don't have to. I don't have to you know, haymaker a piece of metal to to move it Ican almost keep your your hand your elbow. Locked in just by having that extra long handle, you can get that velocity. Without having to lift your fist above your head punch. The steel, you know, like he was with this shorthand super heavy. You know, I find that. I I like that kind of whippy feeling in my shoulder likes me more the next day. I mean when you have you see these guys that just go to town with these like five six pound hammers. And it's like that that looks great for late. You know, fifty second video. But you can't I mean, I don't I don't care how tough you are like you're gonna hurt trying to do that all day long, like your shoulders gonna is going to hate you. So that's just what I find it. I'm not saying I'm like that. I I know everything or anything for that matter. But I I am starting to develop preferences for myself that I that I ten. To find that work better for me. So yeah, we'll I were just talking about that before the before the shows about bench heights. It's the the others. There's there's standard rules that, you know, your average hammer handle is X longer every Vince is so high. Yeah. But I mean, there's there's a lot of variants in that in that everyone has different personalities everyone has different things that they like or different things that they like to do with it so requires different methods. And and it's yeah, I mean, everything like you said there's rule of thumbs rules of thumb, but I think everything is so objective that even if you have two people that are the exact same, you know, height and have the exact same body proportions. He might just tend to do things differently. You know? So anytime I hear someone say something like the traditional way to do. It is kind of makes me chuckle because there is no a traditional lay. I mean, you might be talking about German tradition from fourteen. Hundreds or the the English tradition from the eighteen hundreds or the. Yeah. I mean, I I mean if you look at early American woodworking every town had their own tradition. NC different methods in the guy the guy that plays guitar with his toes, and he doesn't have any hands like the traditional way to play guitars using your fingers. And that guy is like again like he can play chords. And like he saying he doesn't have any arms. There's videos of it. I'm sure you can find it on Google. So, you know, traditionally play the guitar with your fingers, but you know, the sky plays him with his toes, and he does just fine. So there are no excuses. There's no, you know, there's no wrong way to eat a reese's. I guess I think a rule of thumb is great for. Okay. I have no knowledge, I have no experience. And this is this is a this'll get me in the ballpark. And then once you start working with that. And he started developing your preferences, and your you know, you start then you can start experimenting. But that's a good that'll get park. And then from there, I feel like it's a lot like any skill or, you know, like, even photography. It's like you need to you should learn sort of the rules. So then you can break them. In know, why you're breaking them, you know, as talking to. Joshua Farnsworth of wood in shop. He's gonna woodworking school and YouTube channel, but twenty minutes away from me in over in his shop. And he is a, you know, traditional hint tool school, but tucked in the corner of his shop is a band saw and power leave, and you know, table saw and things like that not as I was talking to own. I said, you know, well, I'm more of a hybrid woodworker. And he goes, no, you're a woodworker. He's like hate that term hybrid woodworker. And it's all about you know, the end result. And I feel like that's in blacksmith thing or just making things in general is whatever gets you to that final. You know, the final piece. I don't care if you're, you know, cutting the board by doing it with your teeth like a beaver as long as the final product is is something to be proud of. I don't care how you get there. But, but there's also like, you know, kind of letting the past you know, letting other people figure things out for. First. And then using that as you rule of them like, you know, they figured out that, you know, bench height. Well, you can do a lot more with the bench. That's, you know, a big than, you know, you're not working up your chest. And you're not, you know, been way down low. But I don't know now because I have internet connection when I was. I was in California for Jin with John Williams. He said something that kind of relates to such a good quote in. And it's just always bouncing around my head since I heard it says like, you know, like think about it like the chocolate cake. He's like, that's an easy thing. But the first person to do it. I mean, could you go bake a chocolate cake without any, you know, list, and you don't think twice about it's not a big deal. Like, you could go find the ingredients and the or the recipe and make it, but to do that without a recipe to have the idea like something super simple that everybody takes for granted. It's like the first person to do that was you know, pretty there's a lot of there's a lot of. I can't I don't even know what I'm trying to say. But it's a good quote. Or like I remember as a kid. I used to think like who's the first person that ate meat yet. I still think here's his like these guys are sitting around a campfire something, I don't know. I don't know if meet probably came before campfires, but in my head it's funnier if they're sitting around a campfire like, hey, my body hurts let's stab this thing cut it. Hold over the fire and then Edith. That's a pretty random. You know? I'm sure that's not the way it happened. But like that would be a great like I feel like that's a great English comedy sketch waiting to happen right there. Like, how did that other? That have like, that's that's innovation. Right. The or or you know, how they figured out. What was poisonous? And what wasn't in the forest? Like up. Well, don't eat that. Yeah. That's funny. Cool. Internet connection, man. This is this is this is flowing nicely. Thank you, how to do this more often odd cast again until you tell your buddy, thank you for the internet. I will. Thank you, Jordan. Jordan, mcglaughlin, Jordan MAC photo on Instagram trying to get him on YouTube. My wife has we we've had no luck finding workout west and summer's coming. And so my wife's actually got she she's interviewing for a transfer to somewhere around Columbus, Ohio. So we'll see if that that goes, maybe I know the territory covers Pittsburgh at that would be would think I would prefer Pittsburgh like steel. Yeah. It's it's mostly because of so that I could you know, prolong the my fair John Maleki hills out there. My wife is just walked in. And she's smiling. This could be a dangerous thing. It's a good its role. She says good this is Brian Preuss from there. Yeah. I think he is he's he's around Columbus. Or I tell you. But yeah, it's me how close so I, you know, I grew up obviously in the north west and the states are so much bigger there. But they don't look that much bigger. But when you get up like, the northeast states are considerably smaller and everything it's way closer than it seems. It's really weird camera. When I was in DC, I'm like, there's no way I'm only like two hours from all of these places crazy. And then people are like, oh, I drive a half hour to get there. It's too long. I have DC I'm only two hours from DC. And I made it like the plague. So no, I not saying anything other than the fact that the first time I was there. I remember we got an I can't remember I was like looking at trains or something. I was like no way all these places with this close it blew my mind because I'm used to growing up in Washington. It's like, you know, to leave the, you know, if you wanna go see another state, it's like all day to get to another state. Let's like me and my wife debate on this. So I'm from Virginia originally, she's from California, southern California originally, and she calls everything the big roads, she goes on freeways, and but she calls them freeways in Virginia. And I'm like, no, they're interstates. And she's like what's an interstate. And I was like you wouldn't understand 'cause you're from California, you know, where it's huge and he never leave the state. Yeah. They're their freeways where I grew up. Nope. Nope. Nope. Yeah. And you get on them, and you don't stop. I don't know if it's just Florida. But like everything here like the the the speed limits like, you know, fifty five sixty people drive ninety and their stop lights all over the place. Like there is no you can't there's no road without stoplights. So I guess the interstates as you would call them or everything is at grade. So it's like stop and go like your paddle. You're either stopping on your break or stopping on your gas. Sad call that a highway the hell way. Some most noted traffic accidents highway nineteen is the most dangerous highway in all all of America. There's like two or three deaths a day within like ten miles of me. Yeah. Anyway. Well. Let's see we got the creators photo challenge. We don't have. We're not judging when this week, but we have the we're going to be announcing the new challenge for next time to probably be in two weeks off. So well once you explain what people have to do. Yeah. So thought I'd go simple on this one. And just your image your entering needs to be monochromatic, so monochrome, generally speaking, when you think about it would be what you think of black and white, you know, but monochrome can be any, you know, singular color, you can do a sepia tone. I've seen, you know, some some red toned monochrome, but you know, generally, black and white images are what you consider monochromatic. But this is a challenge to work on the framing and shape to make your image. Interesting because you won't have the added benefit of pops of color or things like that so monochrome sweet. So if you wanna get into it to put a picture. Up on Instagram and put it with the hashtag of creators photo challenge. And we will judge you in two weeks. And I think it's Zack's turn of. So we'll see what we're gonna do that hammer. Cool. What we have to jokes the week this time will you put one on there. Once you did. I heard I heard it this morning on the way here. I thought it was funny it and I'm going to scroll. All right. Why are people untrusting of escalators? They are often up to something. So stupid. But I love it. Oh, stupider better. And then second joke James read that one the second one was submitted by thirty sixty three degrees north he put it in the live chat just a little bit ago. How does an eskimo put his furniture projects together? Igloos it together. That would really really good. Ones are hard to be for her dumb. Does that like? Started doing that in the the live chats anytime someone does a super chat. I tell a joke. Joseph Bailey in the live chat says I live near highway nineteen I was in the MTA. It's called blood alley to the first responders. Yep. A sound about right? You turn on the news every morning, and it's like three dead and traffic accident on highway night every single day. Let's get into it. We're watching reading what's what's inspiring us. Will what you got the X carve assembly instructions. It's ridiculous. So the question is is that book bigger than Zack's and Ville book? So it's not a book. It's you have to read it online, either on your phone or tablet or something. They don't have an instruction booklet that comes with your ex car. It's all digital which is pretty frustrating because it's like I said as a two day build so you have to constantly keep your phone plugged ends of die on you. But anyway, yeah, what do you? What do you do you? Guess I have to give a shout out to wooden shop who you mentioned earlier. He's been following him for years, and he actually has a really good series on getting started with hand tools going through and talking about what you need different things like that. But he just put out a video recently on storing finishes, he stores them in Mason jars and he has this this food saver pump that he can actually put on there and pump the air out of the jars to keep the finishes fresh because I I've tried blockage in and it works. Okay. But there's always a bit of a pain. It never quite works. Just right or crushing the can in some cases choice. It's a pain to work with. So I gave it a try, and I really enjoy it. So I'm moving most my finishes over to these Mason jars and pumping the air out of them. And so thank you for that if you'd like to ceiling to that, I'll leave it down in the description. Also, check out his his school would. Yes. Shop dot com. I think it is. They do some really awesome weekend classes where he brings in. He's brought in Don named Don Williams from Smithsonian. He's brought him in. He's done a couple from Williamsburg. Yeah. For miami. Vice? Yeah. Yeah. And he's done a class on making your own handsaw your own backsaw. Just really really cool. He's actually talked to me about maybe teaching a class forum. So check them out if you're looking to get educated in person. Well, Zach what you got. I actually just finished the handle book last night matter of fact, so yeah, but I have a little bit left. I was reading nightmares and dreamscapes by Stephen King, which is up late short stories, and I'm almost done with that one. I think I had plans to do something else. After that. I haven't so many books like in line for me in Q for me to read. I think I have some some on design that I'm going to start into a win the next week or so in a finished that other book, and I will let you know, what they are when I get there their take that do you have a favorite proxy week to, you know, I'm going to go with my my eyes so tunes. 'cause I should have known right now. How convenient Ben to listening to music in working? It's nice because everything is there's so much white like the forge is so much white noise. You don't realise how loud it is. Until like go inside and get water a Mike. Holy crap. It's not necessarily an unpleasant noise. But it's very loud. Don't do. You. Just don't realize how loud it is. And yeah, I the only way I can actually listen to music when forging especially if I have it the PSI crank up is is the ice Oton. So and I will take this opportunity. I don't know how so they're doing like promotion thing right now and to be honest, like their promotions confuse the crap outta me. It's like I buy like this thing. And then enter this challenge for this other thing, and if you do that, then you add this to your basket. And it's ten percent off something something something it's a little bit confusing to me, I know that they they gave me a code that C H F to us always. So I think I'm sure if you look on their side, I think they have like a it's something where you can get if you buy like their bluetooth you get like a wired set for free. And I was thinking nobody listens to anything with wired. Ear buds any more? I think about every time I fly. Why? And I'm like damn I wish I had wired ear buds for flying. Obviously, you can't bluetooth stuff when you're I spend a lot of time in planes, and yeah, I I never I never have anything plug into him in the ones that they gave you are terrible because they use the ones that they give you on the plane now, they're terrible. They're really like they don't they don't get. They don't work like they don't isolate the screaming children. So they feel like they come in a happy meal. I mean, you can you put them in. And it's like you can hear the ocean. That's awful. So, yeah, if anybody needs that sort of stuff, I don't even know how their promotional works. But if it if you can't figure it out tries h f and I think that will get you something. Hopefully, if it doesn't then let me got my pros right here. I don't like I don't like the pros. I like, the the basic mothers, the extra whatever. Yeah. I just I don't like those the originally, you know, headgear attached to my music. I don't wanna like Clinton things on my. I like the the pros because you can get the the foam inserts, I much prefer those over the rubber plugs. I'd I had the original original ice. Oh tunes. And they were like they the battery life was abysmal and the inserts by broke all the time. But I talked the original basic ones. Oh, but I talked to them at workbench Khan. And apparently, they've fixed all those problems. I have I have two of the extras in. I just always charged one when I'm using the other one. So I usually get I can get like in, you know, probably I don't know what they claim. But I think I get about like four or five hours out of him out of the battery like nonstop, which I think is pretty good. Yeah. On the on the basics. I got like. To. But as the battery life was winding down it would go booed him. And let you know that the battery's dying. And so it may Szekely made that like last little bit of battery life. That's totally useless because it was all like, I will say the same thing. Like, it remind it gives you it reminds you too often that the battery's going to die. Yeah. Exactly. It's like 'cause I for some reason that always happens to me when I'm at the gym in my gym plays the worst music possible like them, if the worst music, and it's so stressful for me when I get like, the beeps, and it's like, it just it's not it's like every in it becomes more and more frequent until it's like, I mean, you might have twenty minutes and Minnesota battery life left, but like those ten minutes are terrible. Like, yeah. And it's like, okay, we get it. Why do you keep telling me like say at once? And then I'll just let the battery die it's fine. So I'm not knocking on. Everything. Good tunes HF, hopefully, listen to this because. Yeah. I have used ones and I do like him. So I I do actually recommend him despite a couple of things that that I wish were little bit different. So that's that. That's my that's me being authentic as that. There you go. What you got? So I got to give a huge shoutout to Calvin from Philippine company with the announcement of the birth of my son. He reached out to me and said, hey, I know that in some circles nickname is bear and congratulations on Callum. I'd like to send you something. And I said, yeah, that'd be awesome. So it just showed up, and it is a wooden walnut and white oak a baby rattle made in the shape of a bear. And it's made in his shop. And he sells them on the to go, check amounts on Instagram and Oetzi just really really thoughtful, a really really nice and thank you. Thank you, very cool. So. I have to I have to say my favorite thing this week is almo room. Oh, I don't know how to say it's a smooth on product. But it's the two parts silicon rubber molding. So you can you can cast something and then old it or mold something and then cast it. And I've been playing with a couple of things have been making these trophies for race coming up, and then I have another video. So I've actually been molding several things in the shop in casting them with a poxy. So yes, really cool product. And I'm probably gonna be using it more. We got a link to that. Put it in the description. It's actually in the live chat. Now. So cool. Yeah. Yeah. It's a was it. So make Brooklyn asks Zach was there. A plot twist at the end of the end of the Endel book. It sounds kind of heavy God, I wish had like a some sort of witty response to that. I don't you just off my game. So now that we've gotten to the end of this pike cast having a little bit of fun here. And I hope you have been enjoying it as well if you'd like to join us internet connection. Yes. It's like a whole new. We actually still have three people at the end of the podcast. I have something to offer. So if you like that and would like to help us out you can join us on patriot. And throw a couple of bucks are way and help us make the the channel better help will eventually get his own internet that is fast enough to talk over like a phone. 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Episode 70: Some Real S#!T on RealSelf

Working Interferences Dental Podcast for Dentists

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Episode 70: Some Real S#!T on RealSelf

"Working interferences is intended for mature audiences since the hosts never grew up. Someone needs to be the adult. Welcome to working interferences with Josh and Lintz the dental advice podcast for the average dentist. Here is Josh Lynn. Whereas what is up welcome to the working interferences podcast. It didn't advice show. I'm Josh will Austin. And I am last Timmerman went to one of my most hated days of the year. I can imagine the day after your birthday just I just hate it eighth. Let them it's the letdown. Happy birthday, by the way before you get into your a March thirty first baby. I am. I am I a grandfather was afraid of me being April fool. So I was induced the day before really either I was going to be induced or just have anyway. So it was and it was also is supposed to be twin girls. So south look for the oxygen tradition. I have an older sisters. My dad was thinking of a household of just four women in the end, you just he was probably shit his pants, but the technology back then just wasn't as good as today. Thank. So I don't really there was an echo with a sonogram. So they thought they were two heartbeats and a back then they thought oh will the pays it a heart is such. That's a girl. Great job. Great job, Mr. obstetrician who cave this family? So bad info, some bad Intel, then Lance comes home to a nursery that's got pink and purple in two cribs in it. And that's why you're screwed up, buddy. Oh, there's so many reasons. Yeah. That's that's that's just the top of the list. Yeah. In there. Yeah. Today's April Fools, and I hate it. It's done. Yeah. It's the dumbest thing I got some dental companies who got in on the April Fools day. Really? Yeah. It's so, you know, I my thought is it. It's really difficult to land something good right on April. It's just really hard and it never works. And it just makes it either makes people. Matter makes them roll their eyes. And I got an Email today from park. Hell, okay. The the dental company who I love my they make a lot of great stuff. I look part. Cal for sure. I love their dry z. Yes. Boston Jordan dry. I call it dry ice. But you know, I also called I say dry just because my assistant just can't quite get if I say dries, but if I also man. Yeah. I also call him. Jay's the rapper that's beyond say. So I could be on me. I don't know it, you know, any company that that makes you know, some really nice like just that wide array of products from everything from ultrasonic to Endo stuff to restorative to. You know, just all this stuff. I have a big fan of that company. Yeah. You know, they're reasonably priced, and and they've got a great a great PR person marketing person named tree may Nella who's just the nicest sweetest lady in the world. I love park out love him. However, I get an Email from park. Cal today has in the subject line a blue moose spotted in the Alaskan wilderness. What the Email, and it's, you know, Photoshop picture of a moose. That's blue. And then it says, April Fools. I get it. Like you make my registration call blues. I don't need this as I just don't need it. You know, she's not it's it's not that doesn't land. And then I got another one from golden dental. Golden dent. I'm sorry. And it says shower with us. You know, lean to leave that. You have to leave that it says, medieval extractions are great. And then you've opened the mail, and it says extracting teeth with medieval forceps hasn't changed in two hundred years. It's better than ever. And then it says, April Fools, and they're trying to sell you on physics forceps. Right. Okay. Just doesn't land. It just does not land glide. Well, today posted something on their social channels that was a video from. I don't know nineteen eighty four it might looks like. And and in all of these they go to the like, April Fools joke. Yeah. Immediately like breaking we just released new video of our absolute latest breakthrough innovation technology, April Fools on the same post point of an April Fool's prank. As you make people think that it's real. And then they start questioning, oh what day is it? And then hours later you come back with the April Fools, right? Not just right there in the same Email same post same just one line down. It just it never lands. It's kinda like that guy that gives you a riddle. And then he tells you the punchline and punches you in their shoulder in laughs at his own joke. Nearly yes, that's exactly what these words were these were the electron equivalent of those. So dental companies you stay out of this. If you years ago, align tech did something good. Okay. And they did like that. They were going to have invis- line for dogs. They had a whole video. It was all really well done. Okay. And it wasn't like hours and hours later that they sent out any mail saying, oh a. Holes. And speaking of a line, I got I got a Facebook message today from my buddy Shamikh in North Carolina in it, it appeared to be a link to an article in the L A times headline reading ADA endorses smile direct club. And before I even clicked on it. I pulled out my phone, and I was dialing the eight. And then I clicked on it. And it was like a Rick role, you know, kinda deal. So he got me on that one. So that one was was well played, but we had like Tom Brady, quote, unquote, April Fools retired today. Just stupid dumb stuff. Like that. Russell Wilson was traded the giants. So I, but I mean that joke is already played out three weeks ago. So it I went up, it's April Fool's. Yes. Yeah. It's very difficult to make these things. To make these things, you know, land or to. For somebody to buy it. You know, it just it's really really difficult. I went to go. Visit my mother at her senior living center, and they have in the main hallway they have these these public restrooms in. So I went in there on my way in and taped to the mirror was a sign that said mirror under repair. Please do not use. Oh, I saw the post the face of a it was good. Yeah. So I put it and some people think it was an April Fool's day joke by the senior living center. Okay. I would say the vast majority of people there have some sort of dementia. April Fool's day jokes. Do not need to be performed on people with dementia because understands. They don't get it. They don't understand. So that's what makes like I just don't think they would do in April full state joke. Well, maybe it wasn't like a guest restroom civic. Maybe they don't go there. So that was a safe bet that only people in the public. It's it's the it's the restroom that's right by the dining room. So I'm assuming that many residents probably go there, you know, when they're in the dining room, or whatever. And there's all the stuff in it like the the pull cord on the wall, if somebody falls down so that somebody cutting, you know, somebody comes to check on them. So it's it's fully equipped for residents. So I just don't think this could possibly be. A. I just don't think it could possibly be a full stage. Oh, it just couldn't be. Yeah. I yeah. I think I think you're right. I'd be very disappointed if they did in April full stage. Oh, just knowing their audience. Right right now. Did you get full buy anything today? I didn't at I'm just always on guard day after the birthday always get ready for somebody trying to belong shenanigans some stupid shit. Yeah. Shouts to scramming Mike scrimps dead who had to endure the the harshest of April full stay jokes today. Today's his birthday means he was born on April Fools day. Which is is the harshest of all the a full stay jokes. Yeah. Yeah. The I imagine it gets really old in that. Household. Yep. Yep. Well, ancest- isn't advice show, apparently, sir. Hits our listeners questions we answer questions. You find on all those neat little. They don't Facebook groups we answer questions from Reddit. We strive to help dentists and dental team members with our own unique brand of advice. So please we need your questions. They are the sustenance we crave you can submit your questions to working interferences that you like, and we don't want you to send any question. Do we Lance? Fuck. No. We don't want a bunch of boring questions. Like what's the worst day of the year? Because you all know that April freaking foles day is the worst day of the entire year. You want the questions at Gordon Christians in cannot answer. Do you think Gordon, I Gordon seems to me like the kind of guy that would would hatchet ill conceived, a no planned April Fool's day joke? He seems the dead joke. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That this Uber dad joke sort of of dude. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I'd be interested to know. I didn't see anything on clinicians report today. Yeah. That would make me think that there was. But I also don't think that he's ever looked at any of their social channels at also there's a good good chance. Right. We have new segment this week. Yeah. We are trying out something new that was one of those way to bury the lead Lance been doing something for ten years or more and hadn't even thought to bring it up never heard of it until a couple of weeks ago, and you sent me a screen grab something and I was like holy shit. Why aren't we talking about this on the show? So I said this is now your new segment, and so now you I've got ads suck. Josh complains about commercials now you of this. So we'll be. It's oh God. I'll have to look at it. Sucks over what? I sent it to you the name of it real shit on real self. Yes. Real shit on real self Lance's new segment, so Lance control on that. We'll come up with something if any of our listeners. Wasn't there? There's a movie called. Real genius genius. Was their theme song to that? Maybe that will be good co ops or something I'll look into that one sor- telling me about real self. Okay. So years and years ago. I when you know, the anxiety of practice ownership just was killing me, and I would be awake all night long on the weekends trying to figure out how the hell can I get my website to perform better? What can I do to to get get seen and get the phone to ring I came across a directory now back in the day, directories were all the rage. Everybody thought as long as I make sure I'm listed in every directory. I'm gonna get found. And so I came across real self was interesting is their database has all of us there year there, and you can go and claim your listing. And if you haven't claimed it yet, you have the little avatar that just a great out silhouette of a of a head, and you can upload a photo to customize it and make sure your information is correct. Your phone numbers cracked and all the different things and the idea would be if dentis. Would or any physician it? It's real self dot com. It's focused on cosmetics. So boob job liposuction rhino, plastic everything including dentistry, and if you are willing to answer questions that the public asks, then you will then get kind of favored positioning, and I don't think they anticipated people like me to then just start answering. People like, you know, whatever no-one expects, the Spanish inquisition. So I started answering many many questions, and so I was just plastered all over their website for for a while. And then they changed their layout. So that the other I'm sure other dentists were complaining the average dentist if they answer anything the average guy does one or two questions, maybe more motivated person will do five or six questions and an unusual person might be two hundred. And I think I'm up to three thousand answers now you're sticking to dental questions. I would guess right. I stick with the ones that I actually do these really are real answers. And so they're real questions in an try to make sure that especially if someone locally is asking a question, then I will maybe get them to give me a call and income in for consultation or something like that. Now, the interesting thing is over time. It finally has paid off. And I have had some pretty big aesthetic cases come from it. And so nice. When other people heard that, oh, you did have in your case, and he found on a real self? They went to real self filled out their thing. And and I guess they just expected that they would start getting phone calls role in man, just watch him Roland. And then you'll hear people complain saying. Yeah, I tried that that doesn't work. Well, I think it took me eight years before he finally got a phone call from it is so heating up perseverance lands are Lance Jesus lens Timmerman plans, that's unsung aliens, Timmerman, kings perseverance. So I mean, if my morning routine is I've got it set up to get an Email every morning in eldest scroll through the questions, and I'll try to pick at least one so this'll give me thirty answers per month. And over over time it will just add up. I maybe I got a boring weekend or something and Lancer four or five questions. And so I saw most of them are pretty decent questions. And some of them are just ridiculous. They're not quite read it. Level. But they're dumb. Yeah. So that's when I screen shot at one and Senate to you. And you're like, yes, what is this? The new segment is you're gonna read a question from real self. Uh-huh. And we're gonna talk about. All right. Sounds like a little role reversal. Yeah. A little bit sank. It's getting into role playing. Go ahead finish that thought knowing I'm trying to find it. Okay. Because you said I like something. And then you tailed off about what you're gonna say. You liked. Oh, yeah. Like dress up in furry in. Okay. There we go. There you go. Which is not true. I was just. Yeah. Where we do not want to make the phrase, man. No, one of them is running for president apparently. All right. So here we found it this person in Tustin, California said shoot I worry about gluten in my invis-. Aligned composite attachments. I have Sealy X disease. Therefore, I'm allergic to gluten I know the liners are gluten free as per what a line has on their website. I'm only worried about there being gluten in the composite attachments. And that's when I just my jaw was on the floor gone seriously. That's what I'm usually screen shot at into send it to you. He's they're gluten in hurrying visa line attachments. If she came to my office, I would say yes, just to get her to leave. I Don I want three them. Do you have C lacks disease? No, okay. Sit was start bagging on. And you're like, we'll do it. Actually. I think God. Andrea sister does. Okay. No. I'm sitting at Andrews sisters, injuries assistant. In. It's it's I mean, like tested verified, all all the gastroenterologist. Okay tests. Not just low sounds like a good idea. Let's yes. Now, I have a good friend named Chris who is never been has been tested and tested normal. But insists that he has a gluten intolerance. However, it's never been tested or it's never shown in a test. Right. Breezy. Test has got a pretty high since Tiffany and specificity do. I don't even know I'm pretty sure it's a blood test or something. I don't know what happened. Just one Cup. Jesus. Can't let me. You know, I. It's all the rage to be the free so much show that just all of us hate everything that is gluten free her. You know, anybody who doesn't have see liuqiu goes gluten free, right? Because it's just a bullshit. Like, whatever, you know, if humans didn't have gluten human race wouldn't be what it is today. Right. We wouldn't have not evolved to where we would evolve. If we didn't have going, right? Do we think this person is actually gluten is areas? Actually, Celia tested Celia. I'm maybe I mean, I have no reason to doubt them having it. I just don't think they understand what that means. I feel it's like. I would I would say so I'm in San Antonio has diabetes type two capital of the world. Okay. When I have type one diabetic, they know their shit like they're really good at controlling their diet and doing the things I need to do with eat something how what it affects. It has directly on their blood sugar and all that kind of stuff. Right. I mean forms of cancer. They know a lot about cancer. What about it? Then my type two diabetes patients who aren't very good taking care of anything. They don't know. What they're when c is. They've never heard of a one c they don't know where the Commodore is. They know nothing about their disease, right? I have a feeling so somebody who really does have seal EAC knows a lot about gluten in knows what type of products have gluten. So the question is. Is it that they don't know anything about composite? That has to be it. Right. Yeah. I would. Yeah. I think so. Did they just don't understand what composites because if I mean, a Google search will show that composites, basically, plastic and plastic can't have gluten it because it's a seventy wheat, right? So I just makes me wonder if this person is actually a seal yak is that what you call some diseases Celia. It seems we. Our enemy. Seems like a tough thing to call. Somebody sealy. Ac sounds very derogatory such a seal EAC, Lance. I don't think this person actually issue EAC. I don't know that. They seem awful dumb. Do you do any invis- line? Not really. No, okay. So let's say you somebody comes in for some for some bio player, and they ask you. Does this have gluten in it? I just say no, you say, no. Just. Nope. When you start this much it cost. Unless they pissed me off already. And then I'm trying to find a way to get them out. And they'll say, yeah. The system I have any system. Okay. I'm going to pitch you on the system. Oh, so you're the pitcher on the catcher. I will I will neither confirm nor. From now on if someone comes in and says is this does this composite? Does this bonding resin does this whatever to these this materials? The automated canned response the scripted responses. What? Yes, it does is that a problem for you. Oh, it is a problem for you. Oh, we'll we'll have to use the upgraded resin composite the one that doesn't have gluten in it. That's an extra seven hundred fifty dollars. There you go boom. And really that seven fifty to be honest with you as the PD PD baby eat a fee and ironically pitas do have a lot of blue knit them. There's probably a not a great use of the host of the current impeded in this situation because pitas are loaded with gluten. But yeah, this is a pita defeat for sure. For sure because just imagine what you're going to have to deal with with that patient. It's like the person someone posted. Now think it's one that you shared we're they were gonna get there impacted thirds out, and they're gonna go see a holistic dentist and the person's like Yahoo Listrik Dennis with no to take the PD L out, but a regular Dennis wouldn't. What are you? What are you guys doing not extracting the PD else? Come on. What did you even learn extractions in dental school? I mean, come on. Jeez. Leaving behind PDL's. That's insane. I mean that that's what reckless Dennis would leave a PD L behind. Duggan's in that is he's got the losses license because he was taken the amalgams out promising people. They wouldn't. Yeah. Here's the deal. Fuck that guy. Fuck you. How Huggins I've never met you. I've never I've never even heard of you. You are in hell, that's your deal, Bernie Mexico. He had to leave the country. Good good. I'm gonna find that paper that your license is put it on. And I'm going to use it for toilet paper. That's right used Stephen conniving freezer on airheads. Yes. Here's my thought with every hill, Listrik dentist, are you stupid? Or are you a liar? It can be both. I mean, that's it's one of the two you're either lying to the public in using this as a cash crab or you're dumb, and you did not learn anything about critically appraising science at all. While you were in school, and you don't have a logical brain whatsoever. That's it. It's stupider liar for from a holistic standpoint, those are the two options so holistic Dennis if you're listening right now. There's probably other shoe. There's better for you than are. Clearly, so step wine is to fuck yourself. And then step two is to answer. The question are you stupid? Or are you a liar? Which one is. I hope it's stupid because. I hope it's gonna take courses. I don't think you can take courses about being a liar. True. So would you rather have a patient ask if the composite that is going to be on the buttons of the bonding or the restoration or whatever drought rather have them ask if it's gluten free or BPA free. Gluten because I think I can probably trick. Yeah. I mean, the good ones much easier to answer, obviously, not the one. I mean now I gotta provide evidence. And you know, here's my MSG as she did. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a BP free alternative in your practice? I doubt it. I don't know. I usually just get rid of a couple of good ones. If you need some. I mean, this is actual content here. So this veers away from what we don't really do. Weird feel dirty mirror. Fusion from Boko. Okay. If you need something that you could do like a class four with. And do maybe some layering or something like that. Or have some stiffness to be able to do that type of restoration in interior type restoration in have good polish in good shading. And all that stuff. I try to measure it's really really stiff before polish who got you have to otherwise sometimes you can polish it I in. It'll get stiff, but you know, it always helps if it's stiff I yeah. Second one would be a t- from the people at pulped in. Now. The problem with activists is difficult to use for like a class force situation because it's not it's it's more like a full doesn't great girth. Doesn't have great body to be able to stack. Right go. All right. Yeah. It does have a small narrow little Kanye tip that it expresses out of as if it were horrible like girthy, Kanye. You gotta be careful you shoot too much out of that though. And then you've you've wasted your material wasted that low for sure that's it. And then, you know, it's just that just cautioned more money Lance leave thought, so so what was your response to this? I'm assuming young lady a could be man to this this young person who was asking about gluten in the design buns. Or did you choose to not answer the kept scrolling? Next question. Probably get choice. This one was in Seattle. Would you have answered it? Would've makes sense. Yeah. If it's it's in Tustin. I don't only us didn't is Orange County. Okay. So we could send them to who do we know in who do we know in Orange County at I mean, Mike reason practice. He's down in Longview. Oh, I know it Nicole Smith is there an Anna, Nicole Smith. No. It's I think he's just Nicole. She gets a pile of dust, and yeah, no, this is actually a female benefit clan. Sure. She's never heard that one before right, right? So yes, so great. I think we did some good today. There's no gluten in the buttons. You're totally fine. But the beep is going to turn you into a gay frog. According to Alex Jones, so watch out for that question to from the listener. All right. Listen to Marites asks, hey, guys, big fan of yours. I made dentistry student in Frankfurt Germany in love to get an insight into American dentistry through you guys. I'm currently performing on stages all across Germany in a standup fashioned at teach folks about their own mouths, by the way, feel free to check out my Facebook page more. It's im- Michael for that it just launched it today. I got an anatomical question for you considering that a whole bunch of important facial muscles insert into the Mody Lous the little knob lateral to the angle of your mouth. How do you think it's still possible for heath ledger? Joker who had this area cut by his abusive debt to still have a more or less, normal facial expression. Love the similar question. Wolverines dentition, by the way. Loosening looking forward to listening. You guys discuss this shears Moritz. So I did go and check out more. It's his videos of him doing stand up. Okay. And it's it's good. It's all in German. Okay. I was going to ask if you. Yeah. But out I do not the crowd. I'm just judging by the crowd's reaction, they all seem to be laughing. Good. All right. So I I mean for all I know he's just saying like teeth also the hottest substance it determined bodied apart from my almost backhand when I played with ones. So that may be what he said, I tried to do a Google translate thing, you know, a Babel fish sort of deal. And that's that's kind of what it would. It would put out. Action going there. Yeah. Yeah. It looks really good. So so shouts to our our good friend Maurits is English send it to us. There's always been that moment. Every once in a while. I'm like man, I should get up on stage. Open mic night. I think it'd be funny. But I know I would just go up there and just pissed my pants in bomb. So I've never done a open mic of a format. It takes a lot of resilience, buddy. Does 'cause people are Dicks, and especially that kind of deal where they're not paying to see you. Better tight five otherwise doomed bother very tight five Lance typhi tight something else. Because. After you get up there. I it's your naked. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Now, y'all be practicing dentistry for awhile, Lance. I have to admit something. No. I don't remember the mobile. Me too. I'm so glad you said that because I I'm like I thought he did pretty good in head, neck, anatomy, and. Maybe this is just a German thing. Maybe this is like Barry in trait. Right. Like, this is one of the things that sets the mastery apart into only teach at German dental schools. Right. Right. So I pulled it up on this home, we Coppee, and it just not I do not see a. John see anything about a pronunciation? So I'm just gonna go with Modiano list's. Okay. And I could be pronouncing it wrong, and there's probably somebody who actually paid attention in gross anatomy, who is screaming at their at their phone. Right. Then right now. The emphasis on the celebral that makes a difference. Absolutely. In facial anatomy. The Mody A-List is a Kayastha. Mma of facial muscles held together by fibrous tissue located lateral and slightly superior to each angle of the mouth. It is important in moving mouth facial expression end in dentistry. It is extremely important in relation to stability of lower denture because the strengthen variability of movement of the area derives its motor nerve supply from the facial nerve in its blood supply from the labial branches of official order it is contributed to by the following muscles. Now, just just honesty here straight honesty, as I say these muscles. I want you to say, and I'll do the same thing. Whether or not you remember anything about them from gross nanny. Okay. Obiqua Loris aureus vaguely. Yeah. Yeah. Buxton ater. Oh, yeah. I remember the name. Okay. It's this sucking this draw muscle. Yeah. I mean, I I like, but I couldn't tell you. I couldn't I sucked it origin and insertion or any of that shit, leave ater and you lie or s. Not so much. Yeah. I mean, I remember hearing it. Depressing. That. Yeah vote. So sometimes we'll we'll that zygote Matic has major. I remember, obviously, Saigo psychosomatic arch. Rice aureus? No, I do not remember that at all the only thing I can imagine is that this muscles bid renamed since I was a dentist. Cool. Right. Like it before it was some offensive name to like Indonesians or something like that. And so they had to name it a different name. That's why I don't recognize some disgraced doctor it was named. Yeah. And he like grabbed someone's ass or something. And so now, we can't we can't we can't have that anymore. Yeah. Put tease me. I do remember Abbott leave ater layby Superiore. Yes. Yeah. I remember that. So resort says the one that I don't remember the fake one new discovery. The new discovery it's like ED's every once in a while the back new species of whatever is new species of of honeybee has been found in French Micronesia. The this is the equivalent of that a new muscle has been found somewhere by the mouth. Yeah. I remember it. So it looks like this is kind of the confluence of all of those muscles. And it is sort of. I, you know, it looks like it's vaguely like where a. Dimple would be. So the question is the joker. Specifically heath ledger joker, which really I think has become the joker. Behalf not capital J like forever because we've already forgotten Cesar Romero's version from the de like who was the other guy Jared Leto here. He's the joker sense. And that was immediately forgotten. Yeah. Jack Nicholson for God's sake. Yeah. Jack Nicklaus golfer played the joker. Remember that? And that part too. Yeah. Elite team. It was. Yes. We invent a lot of jokers, but. Fee capital T Capital J joker. Is he fled your forever and ever and ever? Now, he says in the question. When me go back to it. How do you think it's still possible for heath ledger? Joker who had to Syria cut by his abusive dead. Now, here's the thing. He tells two different stories in the movie. Okay. Do you? Remember this note? So you weren't here about my scars, and he's a horrible joke. Impersonation? It's really bad Rainman. Actually, the Rainman is joker would be strangely. Terrifying. Doesn't often in there. Yes. It's really like would. She just keeps counting. Always like. Oh, I'm just counting the people. I'm going to murder like oh God. There's no reasoning with him. So he tells the story about how his dad was a drinker or whatever and cut him, right? Then he tells another story about how his wife got in deep with loan sharks or something. Do you? Remember that one and they cut her up. She was a model or something, and they cut her up, and she was all depressed because she was she was ugly now. And so then he cut his mouth. So that she wouldn't feel alone. And then she dumped him because he was too ugly. You that was like the one at the party. No, it's. Dark. Knight research lands on buddy. What's and haven't since? So really you've never seen it since. Then guess not. Usually, I'm watching stuff like that on a plane, just alone. We ought to. Let's all watch dark Knight all over again. But I guess a happy asked. So it's it's if it's it's one of those movies for me if I'm flipping through channels, and it's on a stop. Because it's just there's so many moments in it that are just and honesty. Like, some of the plot stuff doesn't make sense. You know, it's it's a typical Christopher Nolan movie where if you get real deep on the plot you start finding some holes it's sort of like my underwear jor if you dig deep like you're gonna find some holes. The problem is though, it's it's just so well acted in just you have these moments of you know, after he kills the judge any any. He blows up her car. And then he kills the chief of police in all of that, you know, they're just moments of just feeling like utter helplessness, you know, just kiss guys is bound of to just let chaos prevail, right? It's just such an amazing freaking performance in RIP ledger. Obviously comforter, you know, that's it's you know, there's there's never been a greater performance in a comic book movie in. I don't think there ever will be. Would you agree with that? It's certainly up for discussion. I mean that was a. Discussion. I mean, he won the Oscar for God's sake. Ostrom won the Oscar. Yeah. Unbelievable performance. And so, you know, either way whether dad cuts him or whether he cuts himself for his wife. Either way. He he talks about putting a razor in his mouth slicing through the cheek. So what would you cut through cut through all those muscles? Right that we just went over you cut this mode realists. Okay. The question is would he still have the ability to make facial expressions? Not very good ones. Thinking of someone that has like Bell's palsy or something. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I was thinking stroke. Yeah. Where they they're they're sort of, you know, neurologically compromised on one side, not physically, but neurologically compromised on one side. And that though if you've cut them the eventually, he'll scar tissue, but it's still functioning just different function. So so your your supposition is that other intervention would sort of rewire itself, they still be able to during the healing process the tissues, attach again, limited sensation maybe change in directional movement. I think he's right. I think I think more it's is right here. Because. Especially more has to do with the choices that he fled. You're made to play the joker as the the sort of facial expressions and takes that he makes there's a lot of weird. Lips stuff? There's a lot of lip licking there's a lot of almost spastic movements that I don't David Tennant on. Yeah. Like when you played junior. Yeah. In Harry Potter a lot weird. Facial tics are random and repeating. I don't think he'd be able to do a lot of that stuff, especially there's one scene in particular. It's almost sad that I know this movie this well, but it's win there. When the joker breaks into the party. And he's, you know, asking where Bruce Wayne is he grabs Rachel Dawes played by a Maggie, Jalen hall, and he's got a knife in his hand. But he t takes his hand with the knife in it in like slicks, his hair back a certain way why he's doing that. He does this facial expression. All I'll break it down in Senator Lynch, you can see him talking about. There's just no way that if he was cut the way that he's cut if it was anything like if it was anything deeper than just a tiny just barely on the surface and a super clean cut, which doesn't look like it would be based on that scar right? Scar is not like primary closure. Nice neat. You know, reflected flap twelve blade Hino will done precise scar. It's jagged in rough. And in key, Loyd it almost. There's no way. There's just no way. He he would have that weird. Like Bell's palsy sort of like drooling at the side of his mouth. And it's never, you know, you immediately an evil genius is immediately forty percent less genius. If they're drooling from the side of their mouth. Would you agree with that? Yeah. I I see where you bond villain like Mr. bond. I'm going to destroy the east coast. They just had like a big muster drop hanging off the chin. You wouldn't be listening to a thing. He said you'd be like you got something like they're gonna be stroking us pussy. So I'll definitely be. Watching. I have a couple of patients who have had. BSS like worth an ethics surgery recently. Okay. Like in like in the past two years. Had they've had their surgery and they still complain of having stuff on their face when they eat all the time and not knowing it's they're like literally like big chunks of food on their face. And there. So I just don't believe that. I never thought about it until this point until until March brings it up. But yeah, there's just no way he could do things with his mouth that. He does. Right. If he had these these scars. Yeah. I think that's just ruining the magic of the show. Just just watch the movie. Yeah. No. Suspend your disbelief for sure pass the popcorn for sure. What's? What's what's less believable? Jokers facial expressions despite having these deep horrendous cuts. Or the fact that Rachel doesn't want it just immediately dump everything, you know, like she's a chance to be with Bruce Wayne who's like cut. He's ripped. He looks amazing. As the ale, he's a billionaire. He looks amazing. He's what diversify portfolio? He owns all these businesses. He's into the arts. Conesa restaurants that dude snaps his finger gets whatever he wants. And then he tells Rachel like I want to be with you. I'm willing to give up whatever. And then she says, no she picks us like prosecutor is taking sixty grand a year. No, no chance no chance at all. That's far less believable than the joker scar and him being able to make those facial expressions or sure. The other thing I love is is I don't know if you remember this plotline. The accountant that works at Wayne enterprises that somehow figures out that the you know that that Bruce Wayne is Batman because of the accounting budget or whatever for applied sciences, and he tries to it tries to shake him down. Once I won't ten million dollars a year in a Swiss Bank account, whatever like. No account ever. Would they be still terrified of this? I I don't I don't foresee that ever happening. That that is also another very UN not believable part of the movie for sure again Christopher Nolan movies. You start picking at the surface man in in the in the plot. Holes to start to start to come up. But still what gimme your your top. What your top Christopher Nolan movie of all times, you've got three batmans them begins dark Knight dark. Knight rises. You've got inception. You've got. The prestige of that was trying to what other. Missing a missing a really popular one. Because those are really. I only saw that on a plane in it. And I was a half asleep through. I'd never finished. John kirk. Yeah. And I'm Elliot interstellar. I didn't see that one inner sellers. Rough. That's gonna be a tough one for you. Because it's got a lot of like dad daughter stuff that interstellar Dunkirk inception. Memento? I didn't think about mental. Oh that was Nolan that was great. Yeah. Laws one of his first ones. Inception dark. Knight rises dark night that man begins. Those are kind of the biggest ones I haven't seen memento in a long time. So I can't I I've only seen it once or twice in it was movies two thousand two probably saw into two thousand three so then for a decade or two Assan long time ago. But it's still was such a good one. That is probably is give me when my top three for sure on inception in sift. It was great to it. Was that was it? Yeah. Love and God. The prestige was awesome procedures. Great. Yeah. If you've never seen. It proceeds checkout that prestige. It's really good. The problem with the procedures that came out the same time as a movie with Ed Norton illusionist. Yeah. And so there were two movies about magicians at the same time for some reason. And they both got a sort of they took each other's vibe a little bit. And so neither one of them kinda kinda rose the top. I went to go. See interstellar interstellar is really good. I want to go. See it in theater, and there's some stuff about like. Dad's coming back later on like dad that you thought died coming back later in life, and I will admit like to openly weeping like a like a trial balloon had popped at him hitter. But it was dark no-one sought those good perfect. It was good somewhere. It's we're saying, well, I'm calling bullshit on on at least the way ledger point the character and his injuries. There's just no way he could he could make those sort of spastic facial motions. Cool you go with that. I am cool at that. You ready for read it? I am always ready for read it. Reddit user, pharmacological fog one. Great read it name. I'm going former logical fog right now. I am I've been there way. Silly. We've moved. I just got my tooth extracted an hour ago. What aftercare should I do? Also is there any way to deal with the itching? Stick a dick in it. Is there any way to deal with the itching? Well, number one, you should have talked to the dentist that pulled the two. They usually give you post op instructions. I'm assuming that this guy was in such a fog. That a foam pharmacological fog. That posts up instructions were give we don't do it verbally. We give written. Sure, you're also forgetting the fact that this person was most likely insanely high for this at hope and who knows where they left their host often structures. Yeah. This is a question for the person who got to Bill you in collect money for this. However, I love the itchiness. Have you ever had a tooth extracted? Yes thirds. Yeah. I don't remember eighteen s to you. No. If some if a patient called you said Mike extraction site is each e. What would we are -sponse? We'll take your dick out of there. That's. What's been in there? That would make it. Oh you for munching on some poison oak. And now that makes sense. I had an old lady just a couple of weeks ago converted a partial to complete denture. And somehow she thought it the right thing to do. Despite are written instructions was to swab out her extraction sites with cue tips and make piles of bloody cue tips all over the house, and she came back with just the gnarliest hugest lesions emanate from these sockets we heard. Yeah. The oral surgeon had to go jump in and cut them off and trying to primarily closure and shit. Thrombosis sidled PINA. So help still don't really know what that means. I think that's to do it. Have enough blood platelet formation flood, she tell her to drink some blood fine. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure she doesn't have enough blood. Seem edward. Maybe the case that you've ever said the daughter who loves that damn series. We've rarely even drove out the fork. So she could walk around where the the city that inspired. Stephanie myers. Yeah. I was dumb. But I love my daughter. There's not a lot happening forks. What's it wasn't where we twin peaks? It's a city north bend. It's just actually ten miles from my house. Which is which has less going on twin peaks or forks works. Forces the way in the middle of nowhere on the peninsula, close to the Pacific Ocean. Just nothing's there. Whereas north bend where twin peaks is that's a that's a town that you normally gas up before you head over the pass on your way ninety two. Yeah. Drive through South Dakota and say, hey, just a moody. So it's it's a bigger happened in town because that's where roads converge as they go on the interstate. Why is this guy stretches itching Lance concerned? Maybe I mean, this guy could've been so high that he was like trying to buy toenails or something. And now, he's got some weird hand foot in wealth disease. He could be on opiates. I know that if I take opioids I wanna keep rubbing my face like my skin on my face. Just as h e just wanna really, yeah. I hate that show is this just hydra code owners. This would this be codeine cough syrup as well. Yep. Probably any any opiate. I'm assuming any opium. I avoid them. I hate that. See you have some sort of sensitivity. It seems like that could be it could be they may have given them a script for some Noriko or something like that. He took it in before the, you know, go and fill it before the static is often in that could be part of it. Let's get some comments here. Itching question, Mark. And they didn't send you post up instructions check the patriot call them. Yeah. Cre-? It says here. They told me and then he comes back. They told me to keep pressure on the Gaza for about thirty minutes. I took it out. And it started ching, doesn't it any more? But it feels like it could be coming back. They didn't it says they didn't give him. Any new goals is not bleeding. But it's. I love this question. How are you dealing with saliva? Logical fog says just like the usual. There's no problem. Well, that's good because many people when they get in. Our gentle chairs all the sudden forget how to handle saliva. Yeah. That's that's the that's very slow annoying fine before you got here. And now, it's toxic. Let's like an affirmative collage pharmacological, pharmacologic fog. Their. Let's see what they got here. Here's some fans memes. So that's great. Why didn't gaming and some ask read? It's. What are some famous rennet users that new user should know about. Who's the most famous famous Reddit user lands. Fuck. Oh, my oh. My god. Lance. Oh. Do you remember last week one of the red? It's that we looked into. We only looked into a couple of last week. One of them was a guy who had some like really strong beliefs on Lord of the rings a lot holes, sir. We got another one here. Same Swiss not to sit as different guy. Okay. But this is posted in the it for ELO TR which chance for Lord of the rings did Frodo half to trap Gholam at the forbidden pool. Why is it that when he went down and lured goal amount himself couldn't fair? Amir have done that himself with the help of his men in wouldn't have made it so that Gholam would stay docile towards the hobbits. Lynch I have to tell you. I don't remember. No. I I remember there. I don't remember that anybody being trapped any of that. While. What if posts in a suburb called inspire robot? Inspire about is an artificial intelligent dedicate. Artificial intelligence dedicated to generating unlimited amounts of unique conspiratiorial quotes for endless enrichment of pointless human existence. Here's one of them. I I'm assuming this is just done by. It says you're about to turn into a slut. That's right as slut. Good to know. Here's another one to get sodomized. One must be famous and look like count. Oh, we should make that a teacher. Clint gets. Here's a better. One mannequins are going to come inside. You. Again, this is this is really great. This is why this is my new favorite. So red whip out your cock good a divorce. 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A Backyard Charcuterie Tasting With Mongers' Provisions Zach Berg

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A Backyard Charcuterie Tasting With Mongers' Provisions Zach Berg

"Hey it's share on today's Daily Detroit, something fun for your Friday. There are some great local businesses who have pivoted through this pandemic. One of them is mangams provision with stores in Detroit and Ferndale. When retail traffic slowed for them, they adapted and started doing virtual tastings of their cheeses, charcuterie and chocolate on zoom and honestly as much as kind of crazy when I first heard about it, it's become a thing. You could bring a charming cheese monger right to your backyard while enjoying a box of delectable goodies. So ready your taste buds as spend Gustafsen and engineer Randy Walker. Did one of these for us in the socially distance backyard of our North End Studios with Zach Berg their founder and Co owner we are publishing this on September fourth twenty twenty will hit the backyard after a quick reminder to remember to become a member, we have a brand new tier the ten dollar raise a glass here. That's where we're sending you a daily Detroit bring glass with our logo on it. Now, this isn't for sale could only get this as a member or a guest of the show. So remember to become a member at Patriotair DOT COM SLASH DAILY DETROIT All right we are here for another daily Detroit. I. We are set up in the north end headquarters backyard social distancing I am joined by Randy Walker esteemed colleague Hello Hello Jerry stays is twiddling knobs and we got a special treat well for you but also for ourselves I'm not GonNa lie this. We got a beautiful box of provisions from mongers provisions, and joining us to kind of walk us through everything and you know run a virtual. Kovic. Nineteen tasting is Zach Berg the. Founder and Co owner of Mongers Provision Zach Welcome to daily. Detroit thank you so much for having me and so excited to be here and thanks so much for this beautiful box as we talked about before I'm pretty much GonNa let you go with this but before we get into that, just tell us really quick about. Provisions and. Give us the rundown on in the business longer is a specialty retailer and we really focus on she chocolate charcuterie. Those are are kind of three main categories but we we love a lot of different categories, a specialty food. So we have great conserva wines, local beers, but we focus on above anything as this kind of intersection of story and food food such a great way to connect people whether it's the people around the table or to connect you to faraway geographies cultures, and so we loved to tell stories about the passionate producers that we feature because quite frankly they're too busy making our. Food the talk about themselves and so that's kind of where we see ourselves that again excellent and your two locations right in on cast in Detroit and also now in Ferndale yeah. We're midtown in Detroit, and then we have a wonderful location inside the restaurant market open on the weekends at Woodward at Nine Mile, and so those are two places right now, and then of course, in this brave new world we're living through we have ECOMMERCE and that's alive and well, and we're doing a lot of the Zun tastings which has been such a cool way to connect you know kind of mimicking that across. The counter experience we used to have every day, and now we can do it once a week or a couple times a week with a group of people. So it's been really fun but the stores for now open for in person they're both open. Yeah. Cool. Without further ado onto kick things off your, what do you want us to do I tonight what we're GonNa do is kind of walk through all the different foods in front of you. We're going to talk about the wind I because I really like to talk about you know the cheeses are the stars of the show and So we're GONNA try chocolate. We're going to try the creator with a wind crackers, but all of those other accoutrements are meant for you guys to enjoy freely. So as you try cheese than you can add it with a little meat nickel, little cracker sandwich and try it at different combinations. I can walk us through kind of a straight up tasting of the cheeses excellent. But we're GONNA, talk about how line influences it in pairings, and hopefully by the end of it, I'll give you guys a little language to help you when you make your own pairings at home right speaking of the wine. I love that pop this bad boy. And Randy I've got an aerator if you want to air it oh, randy brought an aerator. Lovely. I drink wine all the time and I I never used narrator but tell us about the wine that you've generously provided for us. So we had a really cool cannon out canal is the circadian named for Notch and I love this line it's to come house favorite will my business partner really enjoyed cannon out he introduced needed this line will be I open the reason I like it is I think that In general but especially, this has a really pretty side to in its as a floral quality, but it's really dark. Purple Fruits Right? We don't think of like Being Cherries cranberries we think of darker more bus route and that really lends itself to all the different flavors we want it to work with with cheese we're going to be looking for like I said, blackberry a little bit more of the Earth Genus Jewett, and maybe civil leather notes to very nice. The meat we have is SPEC specs in ago. Really well with that kind of this idea that grows together. It goes together both coming from the same country of origin definitely different regions within it. SPEC. is similar to Prosciutto with the big differences that smoked a little bit. It's pressed as well, and so there's different shoe to it a little denser. They spice it with a little bit of juniper lack pepper in leaf instill not nothing like. handed. It's a really subtle smoke, but it gives it a little bit more robustness and other trump into the cheeses and like I said earlier, if you guys have any questions along the way is always so much more fun when it's interactive. So let me know what you guys are thinking, but I wanna start off with Michigan. So Michigan historically has always had a lot of agricultural infrastructure, but I don't know that on. A national level we think of it as a cheapskate, we certainly have our economy and we have some great dairies. But in the last five, six, seven years, we started to grow our national reputation. Thanks to places like Zingermann creameries, evergreen lanes, and really to Idaho Farm. So idol farms is up Leelanau in northport to specific we have a two hundred Acre farm and they bought their own hurt. So they've closed heard of. The raising animals and then making cheese and that's significant because I always like to say when you put that much love and attention into raising the animal you're rarely gonNA trip at the finish line. So to speak and make them mediocre cheese you're committed you're gonNa make a great sheets the BS I was GonNa say are very interested in this spread that's Slowly emerging the table I could imagine and this one has that great fennel pollen. So the bees are really going to love that but this has been the taste of summer for me. The fennel pollen is what you see on the outside of your cheese and then there's a little garlic in the actual pace initiates gives me so much spring vibes right whether I'm cooking it with a really nice fresh pasta full of Greens or if I'm just spreading on crackers, the red wine and the goat cheese might not care. So well, goat cheese red wine kind of fight but this. Is a really nice bike with SPEC. It's GonNa. Be Out of this world. I think. So make sure you try those together I. Tried it alone I'm GonNa try it with the SPEC now it's really nice. Recommend the cheese in line together. Yeah. Goat cheese and red wine rarely go well together you eat there she's I find it remarkable Goaty I know that that's not the most elegant tasting description of goat cheese, but it's incredibly cleaned the milk quality. They have amazing for a goat cheese too. It's got a very dry almost crumbly coaches tend to be kind of wet. Sh- Mary. Yeah like almost like a cream cheese. Yeah. But this is dry and crumbly and it's got a herbal kind of grassy flavor. It's really nice. You nailed it with that the textual differences it's really fresh tasting. Yeah. Thank you. I'm glad you guys are enjoying it a little taste of our homestake. Yeah. For sure. I always find it to be you know worth mentioning that at mongers we have a lot of objectives and the last thing I wanted to do is a speed you cheese for the sake of feeding you cheese I want to introduce you said, connect you to really passionate producers. And it's so much fun to show off. Tiny. Producers in Michigan, and we have a real love of. Midwestern producers but it's near impossible. The do the world cheese justice without jumping over the porn, and so we have a lot of international cheeses but we try be just justice selective and make sure they're special would tell you a story this election. I have to give some credit to Rod. He wanted to show off some of his favorites and rap has good tastes. He knows what it's about and so he has a Holler Hawker coming up next to you and Holler hacker is I know his favorite cheese is one of my all time favorites, Holler hawkers a great story Walter. Ross is the name of the gentleman makes it an If. You guys heard of cheese called Zeller famous Swiss, cheese? Somewhat Esoteric I have not. Okay so if you can think of. Right as a base idea up Zeller's spicier bigger flavor cheese made a similar region and Walter in his family third generation up in seller makers. But the Swiss cheese consortium, they really want to encourage the sales of only a handful of cheeses and they control this market in such a way that Walter started getting down because she's were so exceptional. That you could still taste that it was Walter Ross's Zeller. This didn't work. Well, for Walter he decided he didn't want to deal with this kind of politics and bureaucracy cheese he just wanted to make the best possible treats, right? Okay. So holler Hawker was born and Holler Hawker. Switched for her sitter. It's fantastic. It's such a fun. She's the youngest child in Swiss culture is so young and let's say incompetent. Able of any of the household chores or any of the farm tasks still his job is to watch the cheese in the cellar and make sure they age right. It's an old kind of Swiss folklore and that's what the artist depiction on the cover and you only have a sliver. So you won't see the creepy Holler Hawker kid but he's become kind of an icon of the dirty cheese world. This one strikes me as less Swiss cheeses and gruyere especially have like a little bit. Of A funk to them yeah. This one is more like sharp. Almost you know it kind of fits that sharp profile and rich though to, and it's it's really good. Is there a casing on this? We need to remove for its edible rind. It's a Ryan that's polarizing right? Nothing's going to hurt you. If you had the paper on the one side, it's a soy-based paper. Okay. But the ride is still going to be really earthy, right? It's a cave exposed Ryan you know the first. She, we didn't have arrived but different than a bree it has a lot more salt than funk I know a lot of people who love these rides but not everybody does what do you think of it? Are You Orion Guy I am yes. I'm fine with right yeah. It's almost like a meat equality two. That's the word I was about to say I always get like bone broth. Yeah. To your point earlier those cheeses those Wash Ryan Alpine cheeses have this like fermented funk but. This one goes all the way to meaty into strong change speaking of meat. Any good reason? I shouldn't pair it with a little bit of SPEC. Once you've met the cheese on its own, I encourage you to meet with a little SPEC and that's try it with the wind tubes. I think this is going to start to get to the point where those really dark qualities of the fruit and the meeting of the cheese was start to taste like raise. Neat right that idea of taking. Roast and adding some fruits and stuff like that. With a little piece of the SPEC on their outstanding cheese has an buttery texture to. Yeah. That richness one of the things that's unique and makes this different than up. Zeller's usually it's a safer bet skim a little fat away from cheese like this anything that goes past let's say a year to eighteen months the more the more volatile right and so it's kind of hedging your bet to make a leaner cheese and he was like once he felt unleashed from the consortium he went full bar just high fat cheese. This is almost like A triple cream. If you calculate it that way, it's just not how we talk about for Jesus. So it's incredible. I cut myself a slightly bigger pieces time and I noticed when but into I get some of the little crystals yes. Those crystals are called tyrosine in cheese like this entire scenes a naturally occurring amino acid the crystallizes as ages and for a cheese professional what were paying attention to extrapolate outlets in age similar to cannon structures in the wind. versus acid you eat a cheese and you look at how much tyrosine flavor in fat how old the cheeses and get a sense of is this is GonNa. Be Delicious in a year or is it going to be really good now where did you learn all about you know cheeses and wines and everything what is your background I've been selling cheese off and on for twelve years when I first started, there was no certifications there's no contest there's no cohesiveness. Amongst the industry we had a trade group since nineteen eighty called the American society and so in the last couple of years, they've created a certification. So I'm now a certified cheese professional through the ACS and it's designed to the kind of a baseline of knowledge for she's maker importer monger whatever, and then there's also been a contest kind of internally called the cheese monger invitation and in two thousand fourteen I got second place in the country and the invitation. That was a real skyrocketing moment for my. Excellent your mention of the tyrosine crystals earlier brought the mind of the word remain. C., which is fortune telling based on. Is this a real word. It is Tirmizi your love this. Randy. That is you just made my day with that. I'm going to try to work that into my next day. Actually I'm a huge fan of like cheese and crackers and stuff and I'm a happy right. Yeah, this is amazing so far. The dull lunchroom's right I think that. For. So many of us, we were trying to eat this way. We just called it a different thing than a plummets lunch back. Then that's talk about Gouda. We actually gusted a deep dive class not too long ago we've been doing so many of these tastings and enjoy them, but we keep trying to challenge ourselves to come up with new ideas and often it's kind of the spread idea what you guys are experienced and we wanted to have an outlet to have a little deeper dive. So we came up with this idea of doing our AGC's. Are Alpine's are good as in our cheddars and it was so interesting to deep dive into Cuba because I think it is one of the most ubiquitous and beloved cheeses in it means. So little from like a cheesemongers perspective I can have a cow's milk Gouda sheets look good goat you too young too old you. The, were Buddha is fairly district why I think that people love it. There's there's one technical reality of Agudo, which is that it's a wash curd cheese which tends to make a cheese a little sweeter. This Gouda has a really incredible orange color talk about that. How does it get that? Yeah. So that color is totally Associ- or a CIONI see, and this is what's been coloring cheese really since a on the sixteen hundreds does it give flavor to the very very little to no flavor I personally cannot taste blind an orange cheddar versus a light Cheddar, which is what people usually see the back side by side options. I do get a little sweetness from this, but it's also very Much, saltier than the other two cheeses we've tried. This butterscotch, this is one of the only cheeses I really love caring with West Season Scotches and bourbons. There's so much of that kind of shared flavor profile work. Curious. How it's going to do it today's wine I just tried it with the triple berry jam that you also provided us with an IT's outstanding. Oh. My God, the salt and the and the sweetness. Have you guys heard of carrot gray from Augusta Gracias who makes that Jim I know not familiar. So she's local she mostly sells at eastern market, but you can find it at a couple stores she is in the process of building out her own space to make eastern. Market and for the last five or so years she's been making everything at the traffic jam in snug in midtown Detroit triple areas like it took us a little bit of trial and error to find that as our signature jam. It's good. I'm a huge fan of good Jim broadly speaking like this is the kind of thing that you specialize in. Right like if somebody walks into mongers and they're like, I'm having a party I wanNa make a Nice Shark Board. That's right. Up Your Alley you are right. This is what we did free. Covid I helped you create a selection of stop to make a spread like this or we make the youthful boards that are very artistically approached and done with a lot more care than just cubing cheese and putting on a black plastic tray. That's always what we did when it happened translated from US helping you with fifty percent gathering. You'RE GONNA host at your house to US connecting this way across the table. While you had two people eat a little tasting and we've been really lucky that we had an avenue to pivot. But in that it was so natural us right. We always told stories we always share food and it's no different right now it's just very different all the time. So I do want to mention that the triple Berry Jim is raspberries blackberries and he's, and if you are a longtime listener of the show, you'll know that I am not a huge fan of blueberries. But I think the other berries covered up enough that I don't really get that pronounced blueberry flavor that I despise and he's in the distinct minority we would add or a blue state I. Think we're in the top three producers, national libbers. I would also add that listeners emails all the time like asking like what is Randy have against blueberries? What's wrong with what's not to like about blueberries which you know I I don't know randy what is not about blueberries. The the flavor and the that's so delicious I know. So good has rind is not an edible rind, right? It looks a little chewy and starchy. Yeah, we have lax at that point. There's some white powder on it. That's probably just a mold. That's that's actually really large tiresome crystals. That is what Tirmizi looks like when it's up on covered this nice little I and pocket I also have a wedge with like it looks frosted almost it's while you're that's amazing a picture that yet what makes this special and this is my number one selling cheese historically lemieux's signature Duda has been just the workhorse for us and it's such a special trees. is fantastic. I. Just tried the Gouda with some of the SPEC and man that's that's a party in your mouth on. That is unbelievable. I'm left with a like a slight hint of funk like a really nice appealing funk but it's super interesting. Yeah. So Zach what advice would you have for the listeners out there who is just going to the store and doesn't necessarily have a a cheese monger available to them but wants to put together a nice charcuterie board like what are the kind of basics to not like really put together a great cheese meat board I looked up, we say. Cheese longer. Nice people and I'm available if anybody needs. If, you don't have somebody available to ask these questions of some of the baseline ideas that I always kind of take with me when I approach this as a if gross together, it goes together. It's old kind of saying. It will get you add say over fifty percent of the way there. Right. So if I'm looking at, it still takes a little knowledge I get that. But if I was sitting there looking at a heck arena a from Tuscany of sheep's milk. I can be pretty well suited for look for Tustin red or white depending on my preference and pair. That's right. These people have been making the same food in the same villages or cities for hundreds, thousands of years. There's no sense of making something that doesn't go with the local wine. There's some there, but it definitely will get you part of the way, and then the other thing I encourage people to do is try these little micro experiments when you're out and about the hard part is remembering what you like I know that. But you can learn a lot when you have two or three wide open at a cocktail party enders couple cheeses you can play around and kind of look for the things that you enjoy and focus on things that you do know like textures weaken all look at this studio we get a sense of how it's GonNa be before. We eat it. We know it's going to have certain flavors and we know that goat cheese is gonNA certain cream equality and I can pair based on those things. Right if I know, I have a very creamy Brie or goat cheese I might look for a really minerals driven or a cynic white wine that kind of cut through all them kind of thinking about what I do in any given time playing a little detective work is always important I. also think it's important to decide who leads it might sound kind of silly but it is rare that I can showcase all of the cheeses and all of the wines perfectly balanced the whole time. I have to decide on my trying to show off this bottle of wine that I bought that I want my friends to love or China show off this beautiful spreading cheese in the winds there to enhance the sheets. So deciding that is helpful life what about fruit for that matter other accompaniments I mean I've seen stone ground mustards on short. platters or Hickel tickles olives. Yeah. What about those? I think those are wonderful and they only enhance both the flavors inexperience of eating but they're also visually beautiful that contrast is so important. Visually, you know if you lay out all the cheeses in its many shades of Butterfat, these orange ones are great because there are a little cheeses. Somewhat monochromatic in. So we use a lot of cornish on the little baby pickles. We also use these little peppers called Peruvian pearls. Sweetie drops. They're also called a sweet little red pepper and they get the splash color in terms of fruit. Ideally a fresh fruit like grapes and dried fruit right? Because it's such a different texture. Yeah. Opens up a whole other bouquet of flavors. To. Go with your in your cheeses and then bread right we want to have a vehicle, and so we tend to give boards that have beget at a crackers. We always pair Marcona. I. Love Marcona almonds. If you guys haven't had a Marcona Almond, they're the kind of flatter rounder allman and they're very special higher fat beautiful stuff. Last thing I want to mention is that we always pair with chocolate. Yes and it's not because we think cheese and chocolate always go together although we have a lot of fun aries leaking suggests, but it's didn't what are you know three pillars since we started right cheese chocolate hits, hits our logo. So trump is sometimes not enjoyed with the board. Sometimes it is I find that depending on the size of the board that's going out there often a host or hostess gift the gets were away before anybody sees them. I. Think. It's a great way for us to continue this conversation of connection. In this case, you guys have a Jamaican bar from one of the most saw a scene Jamaican estate threat and you even see on the Bard says Bachelor Hall Estate and we can think about it from a win perspective when it's a state wine, it's more expensive than if it's a regional line which is more expensive than if say the state of California wine right. When I buy a hershey bar it's just chocolate from somewhere on planet earth this bar it could just say Jamaican chocolate and they're buying from all sorts of different farms would in this case, we're buying a state fruit for by beans from this growing source, we've loved expanding people's kind of vision of chocolate I. Think if you ask the average person, what's your favorite chocolate they're gonna say that will Jin Swiss. German chocolate. Those are wonderful chocolate producing countries but there's no cocoa pods growing. They're right Oh. Yeah. And so we've erased somebody out in the picture or most often not somebody but a group of people who have grown this how harvested this defile for mended it dried it and then shifted around the world, and as you know, we want to connect people and as we wanna be a transparent company is really important us that we find chocolates that are directly source. We have a couple chocolates Meru. Museum Minoa all happen to start with an where they're actually growing and making it. I feel like you can get a lot more information. It's a lot more interesting kind of conversation when you have that direct feedback loop, what you do to the chocolate in growing, you then taste in the bar and so often with these agricultural products, they never get to experience what they've grown. Yeah. There was a period in my life where I didn't really care about chocolate so much and I was Kinda proudly like, oh no, I don't really eat chocolate and sweets and everything, but I've gone completely full circle from that and I've always got A. High Percentage Cacao. Chocolate bar in my cabinet now because it's just fantastic, just grab a little piece of chocolate bar and eat that mean especially, you know with a nice glass of red wine like that's it's hard to beat that. Yeah. The satisfaction levels I find are still jeep right? You only need this little corner when you talk about a high quality collect this and when you think of something, I know I keep being bullied a Hershey's. But when I think of like a, she's extra special dark bar or God forbid a milk bar you eat it you don't even know you unwrapped it right? It's just GONNA be under not conscious it goes so fast. And that's because you came for chocolate anything with the special your forty six percent Cacao to seventy, five percent of this bar right. If you talk about a milk bar, you're fifteen and so we're not prejudice against chocolates. I love milk chocolate is probably my preference in some ways what our milk chocolates tend to start at a forty percent chocolate. They're already closer to the extra special dark by her she's and that's less sugar and Michigan State is a little yenish and so there's just there's chocolate it's what I came for. Turn pro. I agree that a little corner of the chocolate bar is the perfect dessert sometime. This is great. This is so smoothen. Silky. Yeah. That company is amazing. So they're in Suffolk England yeah. Pump street that were they're making chocolate. They're sourcing the wreck from this estate in Jamaica and the Jamaica one to me is so right down the middle, it's not super fruity it's not super dark coffee note it's just Kinda this Fudgy Middle Lane in I. Think it's one of our best Quds. So Zach, you were talking about like how your businesses changed and adapted because of the pandemic and everything how has it affected? You like is your retail walk in traffic way down like I? mean. Are you guys doing okay we celebrated the slowest lock in retail of the company's three year history about last Saturday. So celebrated with air quotes. Big Air quotes and so we had a less than a hundred dollar day in walk in traffic. It was really a brutal. You know a painful moment but lucky thing is that we found other avenues would soon, tastings that were were not in danger of being blinked out of existence, knock on wood and thank God but it's been tumultuous to say the least I think like many food businesses. The first couple of weeks was just Oh, my God what's going to happen I have food that's very perishable need to did it to people, and so we were lucky in the. First couple panicked weeks. People are buying cheese and canned fish started selling chickens and eggs and flowers, and trying to just be a service to our community, and you know we all stayed afloat in kind of experienced. The just pure craziness in the beginning together, and then we had I'd say about a month or so where you know we weren't inviting guests in the store and we were just acting as order fulfillment store, and we've got to learn how to do e commerce in a much more meaningful way, and now it's all kind of balancing and going. I'd say the biggest shift is the idea that you just decided tonight to have a little cheese in wine. That's kind of gone away. It's a little bit more preplanned. It's a little bit more occasion based in. We've always been an occasion basis this but everyone allow someone walked by the store before you know jeff now it's either tasting we're doing right now or your gifting somebody something or a care package. The businesses alive. It's just a different bucket in some ways were we're way more a care package place and a that experience slice. So how does somebody go about getting one of these tasting events that we're doing here? Do they just order off the website or do you contact them is at off the shelf as customized either order? So we offer probably twice a month. A public class right right now, we're doing a conservancy series which were were all very excited about we've really been delving into fish and mussels all sorts of things that we're going to do a conservative those you just like you said, you go online you see the classes being offered. You Click we send you the box and zoom link we all meet and taste together the. Other option is we do a lot accustomed tastings, corporations or dinner parties, birthday parties. They've all kind of switched right whether it's your work team getting together or a way to meet your insurance somewhere out of state that you haven't yet met. It's been a fun way to bring together. So we'll do a half hour. Our tasting event I'll leave is in call, they'll have A. Meeting. Afterwards, we do a lot of custom ones in I. Always love as someone who writes a lot of different menus to have something to think about for custom one. Yeah. NEAT. One thing we didn't mention is this hand out that you pack in her boxes standard describing all of the products yeah. Every box comes with a menu for town. You know it's a hope that. If you guys asked the question and we went on a crazy engine about dining cheeses and there was something I really felt like I needed to say it's there. It's just also I think puts people's mind at ease. So there's always a menu. There's always as much information we can share with you. Well, it's been a wonderful and. Dive into the wonderful world of Food Zach Berg from mongers provision. Thanks so much man. This is fantastic very generous of you and delicious and informative. Thank you. So of of your time. Educates. enjoyed. And that'll do it for today show and our shows for the week. A couple of quick housekeeping things I look I don't plan unless something changes on doing a show Monday and that's an honor of the Labor Day holiday Of course, always snooze things can happen but like a day off also thanks to spin and randy today fletcher sharp who is currently in the wilds, of Colorado Cheyenne no Sereni for editing this episode at a number of segments for. The show this week and of course, things to our members who made this all possible. If you have feedback, hit us up at our voicemail at three one, three, seven, eight, nine, thirty to eleven. That's three one, three, seven, eight, nine, three, two, one, one we may displayed on the air for shoot me an email at Jair at daily Detroit Dot. com. With that, I'm jared days. Thanks for listening take care of each other and I'll see you around Detroit's.

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Leo Laporte - The Tech Guy: 1708

The Tech Guy

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Leo Laporte - The Tech Guy: 1708

"Louis. PODCASTS you love from people, you trust. This is. Hi. This is Leo LaPorte and this is my tech podcast. This show originally aired the premiere networks two hundred stations coast to coast on Sunday June twenty, eighth, twenty twenty. This is episode one thousand seven hundred enjoy. The Tech Guy podcast comes to you from twits last past studios staying control when it comes to your company's access, points and authentication last pass makes enterprise level security simple for your remote workforce checkout last pass dot com slash twit to learn more. Why Hey hey, how are you today Leo Laporte here the. Tech Guy Time to talk? About tech computers, Internet Home Theater digital photography. Macintosh arm chips. Eighty eight ask Leo. That's about as we'll get eighty eight, eighty eight, ask Leo. This is not a show. For For you know showing off peak knowledge I'll occasionally. We'll get that I can't help it. 'cause can't help it get that, but really it's not supposed to be that. It's supposed to be show. Where we geeks get together to help you. Normal people understand technology. I am bilingual I speak. Both tongues Geek in normal, so I will be your guide to this weird and wacky world is. Everything. I don't know if the world. Really realizes it, but we lose this past week was kind of a watershed. An important transition or the beginning of an important transition in technology, a transition that began in two thousand seven. With the release of the phone spread about right about now thirteen years ago, the first iphone came out. And I mean we all know I don't think I have to. Tell anybody. What a difference! The iphone made in the world. You know what I mean. It wasn't it was started with the IPHONE. Everybody copied it and android phones, which looked very much like the iphone slab of black glass became very popular to let's not. Let's not say apple owns the market by no means. But they started it. And they then something else happened that maybe changed. A lot of things. Suddenly have a supercomputer in your pocket. You're always connected to the Internet That's really an interesting transition. You, have applications, you can run. On these little pocket computers. That can connect you. To people social I mean there would be no social media if it weren't for smartphones, right? I mean we had him on the desktop I'm not saying you know you don't have desktop social media desktop, twitter, desktop, facebook, but Most of the usage now is mobile. Most computing is mobile. That's a big transition. Under the hood, though there was a big transition to because unlike all the computing up to that point, and ever since the seventies. These new computers were not based on. A chip design we call x eighty six. Intel created, but others made x eighty six chips including amd. Those chips really were dominant in desktop, computing, laptops and desktops had no place. In, mobile and Intel tried. It wasn't an intelligent try, but their chips. For some reason they couldn't figure out how to make them low power enough. Cool enough to run in little tiny devices, so they just gave up. They get laid, literally gave up in companies like qualcomm and Samsung and others came along with their versions of these chips. Apple of course made their own chips. All based on not x eighty six, but a different architecture called arm. it's not it's similar. It's different. It's a a computer from the point of view of. Those of us. Who use them? There isn't probably a whole lot of difference, but the point of view of the designers are is. Arm which stands for. Advanced Risk Machine, and it's not our I S K C reduced instruction set computer. was much lower power ran much cooler. Did fewer things. That's the reduced instruction set didn't do as many things as the big brother x eighty six did, but it did it more efficiently. And, it also began a transition that we call now the system on a chip because if you've got a small device, little pocket sized computer. The last thing you want to do is a manufacturers have twelve different chips on you. WanNa make as few as possible so they got more and more incorporated into the. System on a chip. Memory Radios. INTERFACES TO STORAGE! Of course, the processor itself a graphics processor later that would do all the graphics the drawing on the screen. These systems on a chip became very very. Powerful. and. They were all based on this risk architecture lower cost lower power consumption. Cooler, running not so hot, that's important to write in a little device like this. There's no fan in your phone. And this transition. Turn the world's edge on its ear, because no longer with a dominant form of competing on laptops and desktops. was in your pocket. Almost all the computing being done these days is done in your pocket now. Of course it. You know that Internet. Connection in your pocket has to go to a more traditional big machine in a server somewhere. So those, but even those started to feel the change. We're starting to see them move to arm. And of course the big change happened this week. When Apple said? You know what we're not gonNA, make any more computers. Based on the X. Eighty six architecture goodbye Intel. Now Apple doesn't own. The desktop marketplace's the best ten percent of desktop and laptop computing. It doesn't frankly only owns about twenty percent of the phone space in the US is more like fifty percents, but it's not even dominant and phones, but it is highly influential. Just as the iphone influenced every other smartphone after it all running on chips. That apple had chosen the iphones chips. Are Apple designed, but they're based on his arm architecture just as everybody followed the leader there. In desktop computing, I think everybody might follow the leader there. And it might be by by the exit six architecture, which let's face, it is pretty old. came out in the seventies. It's almost fifty years old now. That's you know. That's a pretty old system for computing forty five years is a lifetime. More than a lifetime several lifetimes. and. We really have felt the pain of that. A lot of competing has been hobbled by this x eighty six. We worked hard to make it. You know do a lot of stuff, but that that chip in your desktop computer the Intel I five or I, seven or maybe Zeon. That thing uses more power than a light bulb. Several light bulbs. There's a lot of heat. That's why people with fast processors. Sometimes you have water cooled computers like A. Like a car on your desk. They generate a lot of heat. And what is he well? Heat is wasted electricity. That that heat is not been is not going towards computing or getting a job done. It's just it's wasted electricity. So he is not a good thing. It wears out chips and it shows that you're inefficient. Apple announced that they're going with what they call apple silicon. Starting this year I think and they said this transitional take two years. My suspicion is it'll be over by the end of two thousand twenty one by the end of next year. All Apple Computer's Macintosh computers will be running on these new apple chips. And Yeah, they're only ten percent of the market just like the iphones only twenty percent of the market. But Watch. This is the beginning of the end not just for Intel. But for this whole. Dated Architecture, this is a change in the way we think of computing. This change has been going on in other ways too because. Frankly and Microsoft noses today this week. Microsoft announced for closing all the stores. Closed them for Kovic we're not going to reopen them. Eighty six stores worldwide. They that's it. We're out of the store is now. WHY WOULD MICROSOFT SAY WE'RE GETTING OUT OF THE STORE? Business will? Obviously they weren't making money their stores. But it also I think says something about. The future of computing. He, Microsoft doesn't have a mobile phone platform. They kind of have mobile computers tablets. But? That's still a stolen laptop. Let's face it. I think Microsoft starting to say hey. Maybe the writings on the wall you know is actually started five years ago for Microsoft when Steve Bomber the CEO left and. A guy named such an. Adila took over such. Adela came from the cloud side of Microsoft. He Ran Asher their cloud services, and he has slowly been re positioning Microsoft away from. Computers, P. C.'s. And more towards the cloud. That's where the future Microsoft lies. It may be where the future of computing lies. We're in the middle of a big transition. It's GonNa. Be Fun to watch. I'm actually thrilled because it's been getting A. Boring the right word, but you probably noticed that. Your computer. A computer about five years ago is not appreciably slower than the computer. You'd buy today. The smartphones kind of stagnated. They're getting bigger. You know weird. Things are happening, dropping headphone ports and stuff, but really is slab. Glasses look pretty much the same over the last five six years. We're GONNA Plateau. That plateau is about to end and things about to get very interesting and thank goodness for me because that's what I do. So over the next year, so as we talk about tech on the Tech Guy. I think we're GONNA. See some interesting things happen. And that all you can. You can all pin that. On the events. Of Monday this week when Apple said you know what? By by until. Until was a big big name. Personal computing fillets forty years, wasn't it? I. I wonder what it's future holds. Eight Eighty eight ask Leo's my phone number, eight, eight, eight, two, seven, five, five, three six. That's the number. If you WANNA call, I'd love to hear from anywhere in the US or Canada. That's toll-free, still toll free if you use a skype out or something like that to call the number website where we put everything. We talk about James Ruvo's. RUVO's writing this down as I speak. Put that all up at Tech Guy Labs Dot Com. That's free. There's no sign up. There's no newsletter. I don't I'm not going to spam your anything. It's just there's for your reference. You can go, and you can look. We even put audio and video from the shows there after the fact, Tech Guy Labs Dot Com. We will get to your calls momentarily. Eighty eight, eighty eight. Ask Leo Week After Week. It's a miracle. She keeps showing up ladies and gentlemen I give you the unbreakable Kimmy Shafir Scheffer nights the highlight of my week. These days it doesn't take much. To get in the car. and. and. My Room. That's true. These days it's funny how? Life can can kind of collapses on itself and the little things become important. Nice glass of wine. That has gone up quite a bit. Yeah! Yeah so We should take some calls. You know it's just for fun. That's what we're here for a while, so gary called yesterday and said callback call back. To me, so Gary in Bellflower California is going to be doing some RV traveling because again. You don't get on planes anymore. Doing this yeah. One Way to get around. He wants to keep his Internet Yep. Yep Thank you Kim. You're welcome. Hello Gary Leo LaPorte Detect Guy Welcome to the show. What am I doing wrong? Hello, Gary. Kim Are you still there. Hello Gary. All right well Kim I put him back on hold. I don't hear, but maybe it's me I. Feel like I'm. I'm not hearing things. Did. You hear him no. I didn't hear anything I didn't even hear like background noise silence. Yeah, okay, that could be us, too, so let me try a net in Tustin California. Are you there in that? Case. We're having fun process what we call phone problems. So you know what I'm GonNa do. I'm a put this on hold, yes. I think I know how to do that, yes. And what we do John We reboot. We, rebuild reboot! The machine should I rebooted here John. John. Let's go down the hall and kick. It can go to carshield. Tutors no, we. Can't. Talk for hours I know we remember that one time when the whole phone system another building, it was not our phone system. It was like the phone line and we just didn't have them for hours. Talk Somebody drove over a fiber cable. And cut the phones to us. Yeah, that's all right. You know what I like to talk Oh. They're gone. Oh, I feel so bad now. Everybody's GonNa Gerry. Gone, because we had a rebooted right, so we'll, we'll reopen the phone. That's all right we'll. We'll do it again. I'll Is it rebooted now? Or when does it? No, he's on it, okay. Feverishly so I'm going to answer questions from the chat room from Lewis. Says? Where will apple silicon be manufacturer? We don't know a lot about apple silicon. Fact I think that's a place older I don't think that's the name right now. Apple in its iphones uses the a series to start with the a four. We're currently the highest level. Chip Apple makes today is the a twelve Zach said. I think. That's a terrible name. And I'm hoping apple will not be continuing with this silly stuff. But at the same time you know I. Don't you know thread ripper? AMD calls chip. That's not a great name either. Thread River that's marketing. Just you know a nice I seven is in great, either I ninety nine you. You know that's not great, either so I'm sure Apple. Come up with something. They won't manufacture them themselves VER-. It's very unlikely. Most companies don't because it's expensive to build what we call a chip fab shirt for fabrication for. They can. They used to be a billion dollars to build a chip Fab I think it's more now. They're very expensive. So I think it's likely that apple will contract this out right now. They get chips built a I think most of their chips are built by the Taiwan. Silicon menu silicon. Somebody's the. It's hard as a lot of letters. The Taiwan semiconductor manufacturing company. That's why they call it. TSMC, that's out of Taiwan. They may get ships I. Don't believe they make any chips in China. They may get chips made south. Korea also has some very good chip manufacturing capabilities, and actually Intel makes chips all over the world including in Oregon. So, it's possible that apple will be looking at getting a fab. In the US, but my guess is, they'll go to TSMC. That's they get most of their stuff done these days. In Taiwan so that's it's an interesting world we live in because. The chips that are running in our computers. are kind of. Made. The designed by one company incorporated by another made by third, so in the case of the iphone apple designs the chips as they have since the very beginning. And then, but they're designing them based on an architecture, a chip design that a license from that arm company I was talking about. That's what they're called the arm chips. And they manufacture them with another company in most cases TSMC. So. It's and I don't think that's going to change. Actually I think what apple is doing currently is probably. What will apple keep doing? So the answer is more of the same really. Are, we're going to keep working on the phones. We'll get him working. The good news is Sam Sam is in the house. He's ready to talk about the new Ford. F One fifty when we come back. Leila port the Tech Guy Time for Sam. Apples Samid is our car Guy Sam is a principal researcher guide house insights all about the auto industry. He also hosts the best automotive podcast in the world wheel bearings wheel bearings dot media and he's sitting in front of a bright shiny. Red Ford F one fifty the best-selling pickup truck. Is it the US or the world? Probably the world? Sam I lost you. Now everybody's silence. I can't hear anybody. I can't hear anybody. The whole system and I might have to talk this whole show Sam. Did you mute yourself? Hurt him a second ago. We're having a nice conversation. There something clicked. Something clicked I heard a click. Are you there sam? So, I'm going to read Sam's Lips. All right there, we know. Unfortunately, something you're. Is Right yeah, so I switched over to Mike and my scared. Because you know the phones I'd too so I got to talk the whole show, so I remember going to the Rouge plant, the Beautiful Rouge River plant in Dearborn Michigan where the F. One fifties or made, are they the most popular I know? It's the most popular truck in the US. Yeah, the the the after the Ford F series the F., one fifty, and the and the larger super duty trucks are the top selling brand in the US and have been. In the top selling nameplate of any kind for like thirty, seven or thirty eight years now he cow. And and the top selling trucks for forty three years. That's. Or between the F. One fifty and the super duty, solemn They sold a little over nine hundred thousand last year, which is just in the US law well I think anything else. They sold ten thousand those to the P. The petaluma area, our little town here in northern California. Everybody drives a pickup. Yeah the rouge plant that you mentioned they build about. They built one truck every sixty seconds. Yes, amazing six fifty trucks in our. If you ever get a chance I, know you've been there Sam. If you're a good chance to see that assembly line, go down on it. It's a beautiful thing gorgeous. It is pretty impressive. Yeah, yeah, but coming up later this summer. There's going to be an all new FM fifty. It's time for a generational change in and and you know when you look at pictures of this new one in the front end looks. Looks a little different. The tail lights are different overall. The truck doesn't look dramatically different from current generation one, but underneath the skin they are, there are so many changes to this thing, and the were actually two big announcements this past week. One was the F. One fifty, and on Tuesday that was also announcement from Invidia, in Reseda Benz, and both of them had something in common that you know they're both adopting new electron architectures for vehicles that will enable over the air software updates. The Mercedes Benz one is using in videos new Orrin. SOCAR's system on a chip that they announced back in December and it's going to be the first production application of that. That's not coming till twenty twenty four, but that that ship has to is capable of two hundred trillion. Per Second. which is you know way faster than most supercomputers were in ten or fifteen years right? Yeah, and this is on a single S. O C, Ford is not using that one in the F.. One fifty s because that's going to be in production for more years, but they on fifty also has a new electrical architecture like a lot of new vehicles coming to market this year. That's. That's that is enabled for complete over the air software updates of everything in the vehicle just like Tesla's been doing for a number of years now so this is going to be the first the first truck to get that capability. and Ford already announced. One of the features is gonNA. Be Coming up last week. We talked about the active drivers. This system that's on the Mustang Machi. It's GonNa. Be Available on f one fifty as well good so You'll be able to get. You'll be able to order the the active package. On the trucks starting this fall when I go on sale and then middle of next year. When the is ready, you'll be able to get that as an over the air update to enable hands free driving capability on the highway. and. So, this'll be the first truck. While spending on when GM gets super crews launched in some of their trucks, but it'll be one of the first trucks to offer that kind of capability, and you know, and it's just one of many. New Features software features that are going going into this type of truck and one of the things that they're doing. To enable this is. Until now he has since the nineteen seventies. We've been putting computers into vehicles. Start off with little. Low Power Computers microcontrollers and What's typically happen? Is You know all those get? The that they get the come from different suppliers, you know, eat one for each different function on the vehicle. Now they're starting to consolidate these into what it called. The main control computers so much bigger more powerful computers see have a whole bunch of functions in one, and it makes it easier to to do. Over the air updates and before I forget I'm just going to respond to comment in the chat from Pell. No I did mean trillion two hundred. Two hundred trillion operations per sensors. Called teraflops monitoring you know we just an then just announced the fastest supercomputer which is. Two hundred PATTA FLOPS, which is A. Pedophile flop thousand, teraflops. Supercomputers are faster, but this was a benchmark for supercomputers not so long ago, two hundred teraflops, two hundred thousand teraflops Sorry two hundred teraflops, so that's pretty impressive. I think that's That's a nice computer, a nice computer in that car, so yeah, besides self driving. What else would they use it for? So this'll be powering In, the case of the Mercedes, it'll be power in the driver assist features, and whole bunch of other things. They haven't gotten in this specific details yet on all the things that they're gonNA power off of this but. One of the things that they've talked about. And Ford talked about same thing is building enough computing headroom into these thanks enough extra compute power so that they can start to enable other functions and sell features that you could buy as in-app purchases going forwards you know on on new vehicles essentially so you'd be able to add the functions as they develop looks like Tesla's been doing for a number of years now. And you know improving the functionality, improving the safety and security updates so there. There's there's a lot of things that they'll be able to do that. and eventually they'll you know potentially they'll be able to do run everything complete powertrain off of this the body control. Off a single computer, and they'll still have multiple computers for redundancy for her safety capabilities, but Yeah, there's there's a lot of potential for what you can do, but you know one of the F. One fifty, for example, as they're offering a version for the first time that will be really interesting for contractors is a lot of time now. If you get a contractor come, they may have gas generators sitting in the back of. Of their truck power roles on the job stack right the The F one fifty hybrid will be able to use that hybrid electric motor in the hybrid system as a generator, so the standard setup We'll give you two point four two point four kilowatt output from several AC power outlets in the in the bed of the truck and unders, an optional seven point two kilowatt version, in which you can basically Powell House. Of this thing and it includes a two hundred and forty volt outlet at while as a couple of. Hundred and twenty gold outlets to power all of your equipment. Now that's is that this year. Yeah. That's going on sale this fall. And, then a couple of years, they're going to go all guy here. Yeah, in in two thousand, twenty two, they'll how fully electric version full battery electric version, and they haven't given details yet on that, but they showed posted a video last year reporter type, actually polling million-pound train. LOADED WITH A fifties? wow, I mean I. don't know if I need truck to do that but I'm sure a few people do. More than a few people do. That's pretty exciting. Sample Sam. He is A. A car guy to the bone. Principal researcher. Guide House insights don't forget as wheel brings podcast we'll brings media joins US every week. Thank you SAM. Thank you have a great week. Leo LaPorte The tech I will see the phones work in next. Yes so. People looking at Riviera or the cyber truck might well be saying yeah I'll just wait till the F one fifty. Yeah and you know there's some speculation that Rivi has actually been helping out for with the. Powertrain, development for the fifty Afshar because foreign-invested. and but it, but the F. One fifties, not gonNA use the Ribian Platform. They're using their own. Version of the F one fifty platform for that. But that will show. We should see that one sometime next year. as twenty two model and then they're also doing They're big transit van their full-sized. Doing, electric version of that one as well. That's a very powerful processor. That's do we know what is what it is. Yeah, so it's. The Warren. The core of it There's arm CPU's. Can't remember I'm not sure. How many arm cores are nervous I think there's like there's eight arm cores in. In the hundred teraflops version. There's also lower power version or drivers says systems. But that combined with. Their new ampere GP micro architecture so about a month ago at the GTC keynote. Jensen Wang now st-. Ampere s the next generation GP architecture, and so they're combining that with arm. Arm Cores and several other types of as well for some other rural processing stuff, and Was it the fifty. Six, fifty six billion transistors at some insane number of. I'm really really interested to see these guys put this catch kind of horsepower processing power in a vehicle that must be the the. The platform for the machi is well. No, Oh, the what's in the F one fifty year? No, that won't be though. Orrin chip They're gonNA start sampling knows next year. Off! Twenty two okay. The so they may be. They may be using the current Invidia Xavier, which is thirty Tara. and that was in production now as a Chinese company X. Punt the just launched a car. That's the first production application of executor, and there's going to be several more coming forward won't say what chips they're using in the Machi and the F. One fifty. They're both using the same architect same electrical architecture They Aston declined to be civic about that, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's some invidia silicon in there. and. That's part of the reason you get such high teraflops because he's really gp us more than anything else. PRIMARILY GPS yeah, yeah, interesting, and as well as some courses that are specifically. Optimized for doing neural network operation I think that's what's most interesting in. It really ties back to that apple announcement is these these are custom? They're designed prayers spill for an application in this case, vehicle and that's what's exciting. we the days of the Intel chip, which general purpose chips I think are numbered because people can custom fab stuff there, too. You know if they're big enough like Ford to to be much more efficient, much more powerful because they're purpose built. They're ready to do this particular task. They're not going to be designing rocket ships on a truck. Hey, thank you, Sam. Yeah, and the other thing is. They're taking multiple different kinds of course in combining and. Really driving his arm SOC. You get you get a really flexible. Platform very very interesting. Thanks. A lot because I don't have any phones. Take care. Leo LaPorte. The Tech Guy! Completely coincidental didn't know what Sam's GonNa. Talk about, but it really ties in. To that conversation, we were having earlier about what apple is doing with its processors. What we're what we're really seeing in the real transition is away from general purpose chips, you know. IBM built its first. Micro computer the P. The IBM PC in Nineteen eighty-one. They were using off the shelf parts. You know they needed They didn't even have A. GPS was text based computer. There's no graphics. So, they would go and they looked and they see well. It looks like price performance. We should probably go with the OH I. Don't know the Intel. Eighty eighty. And then I can't remember. There was some reason why they said You can't do the eighty eighty. We're GONNA have to go with the eighty eight, not quite as good eight bit microprocessor designed in. Seventy four. This is the beginning of what we call this x eighty six architecture and for years. That's that's what. Pe- people building computers and computing platforms. That's what they did. They went. It's like going to the store and this and what's on what's on the shelf today? that one looks nice and they'd pick that because nobody had the capability to do their own thing. But. That's what's really interesting about what Ford's doing. This F one fifty. What apple is going to do with its? It's apple has been doing with the iphone and the IPAD and what is going to start doing with a Macintosh. Is Custom built systems on a chip chip. That are designed for a very specific environment. And when you know. What that chip is going to be doing? In the case of the Ford you know driving the car controlling of telematics. You know you don't have to throw. In is much extra general-purpose stuff. So Ford will be using its own custom essentially its own custom chips chips designed for it. not Intel chips chips from a company called Orion. that are specific to the needs of that vehicle just as apple will be. You know and I think Apple's very happy about this. I think this is something they've wanted to do for a long time. Apple's going to be designing chips specifically for Mac Os and the hardware that they design it's called vertical integration, and it's been the holy grail for apple since day one. Steve Jobs always said you gotta make the hardware and the software to make perfect system. More recently. That's what he on Mosca said about Tesla. They. Don't WanNA. Use somebody else's self-driving platform. He says we need the data. We need to use our platform and our cars collect all the data from that platform to make our platform better. It's custom. and. It's really this is something that's started to emerge over time. The ability to custom design chips for specific purposes which will make them much better, but you still have a problem. That so much with a truck that with the F. One fifty, the problem you need to make the F one fifty compatible with any other truck, but if you're. If. You're making computers you need. You need to be compatible to some degree with other stuff so that you can either operate, so that did more importantly. Software developers can create programs easily. That will work and apples I think you know. Here's what we need to be compatible with the IPHONE and the IPAD. End of sentence. Although they are armed chips, and they were very quick to show this at their event on Monday. Oh okay, yeah, you can run Lennox on it, but they didn't mention by the way that's that's interesting, because Lennox is available for those arm chips, so being arm compatible chip is important. They didn't mention windows now Microsoft does have a windows on arm platform. Microsoft saw this coming. They knew this was on its way they even wanted to be. You know participate I think. They're still doing off the shelf chips so. They're not as they're not quite to the point where designing their own chips from the ground up. But the apple did mention windows now in later conversations they have said well. You'll be able to run windows using. An emulator like. In their software called parallels and vm-ware you'll be able to do that. They didn't mention their boot camp for longtime apple. Users Been Lucky. They can put a copy of windows on their Macintosh and. Restart the computer and say just be a windows machine today, and it would be a windows machine hardware by apple. Operating System by Microsoft. That doesn't look like that's going to be a possibility. For various reasons some technical, I think maybe licensing also. So that we'll be watching that one with interest. It may be that apple's finally said you know we don't have to be compatible with PC's. Compatible, the IPHONE and the IPAD, and they will be by the way there's new computers will run. Iowa sof software UNMODIFIED. Suddenly you'll be able to run everything that you see in the in the APP. Store on your iphone or IPAD. You'll be able to run on your computer while that's interesting to. Think. We got the phones working Ha Luhya I. Don't have talk anymore, but. Let me, mention our sponsored then we'll get to the phones finally all right. Let's see. I, think we even have the original. Jerry from bellflower. Sorry about that Gary. That's Riley ill Guy Sean. We're hanging on for. Thank you sir. and. I really enjoy the drilling sound. You're making yesterday. Yeah those drones I swear they're loud. yeah, it was fun though. What can I do for you today? Well we're. We've sold our house and we're going to be fooling around a little bit between here. Arizona and I'm looking for the best possible way to stay connected with the Internet rights and I was looking at the IPAD. And Cellular and I was looking at hotspots. So it depends epsn. Yeah. It depends on the I. Cellular is Great. I have one and it just works. It works Wi fi, but then if you're away from Wi, fi, you know, you'll have WIFI at RV, parks places like that, but as as you're driving or whatever it still works My wife uses it all the time. We're going places in the car she can. She can get work done. And I think that works really nicely, but it is limited to the IPAD. You could turn your ipad into a hot spot. So in a way, the IPAD is the hot spot. The advantage of a hot spot is more than one person can use it so you. The hotspot is just a little credit card sized. Device connects to the LT network, and then in most cases five other people could use. Your wife could have her IPAD. You could have your computer your phone. Everything can use it simultaneously, but it's not any fast, so in fact, I think the IPAD might be a little faster than most hotspots because it has a. kind of a high end. processor in there that I. Think is probably faster than the little thing, the dinky thing in the credit card. Well I have an older IPAD. The I IPAD PRO with wireless. It works great. Yeah, but I WANNA. Be Able to get Internet where pretty much wherever we're right and cellular range. So that's the only issue is, does at and T. reach everywhere? You're going to be, but it probably does. It's got a pretty good network. Yeah it does I've travel between here and there before with no problems. I've looked at at and T.'s the hotspot and the only thing they have the the next year. The Nighthawk and they don't seem to back that up much, or they don't even to stock it. Yeah, generally the way to work a hot spots go to the carrier. and. Say at and T., what do you recommend? 'cause they will have stuff that's designed to work. They probably sell it with their brand on. Even so that's what I would look at, but again if you if you're going to get a new IPAD anyway. hundred twenty nine bucks extra will get you the Lt Service, and then you can it. You know it's roughly the same as using a hotspot. In fact you can be using it and I think if you can use it, and if your wife is using the hot spot, you both use it. You're sharing one connection, but that's the same as you would. If you bought a hot spot, so. It's really it's it's. It's not much difference. It's more kind of you. Do you want to leave the I? Pat On. It will have to stay on for the hot spot, so met might draining battery. I've used both. I don't think one is superior to the other. We carry with us when we go overseas. The Sky Rome Solis, which is exactly that it's a hot spot, but it's designed to work with number of carriers, international carriers, and you pay a day pass, and you can use. It's kind of limited bandwidth, but it's kind of convenient. So it's more about form factor than functionality Leo LaPorte the Teke. I. Mean I I like the idea. Are you going to get a new IPAD? Is that what you're thinking? It's getting kind of old. One anyway yeah. It's it's still works great, but you want. I want someone what we wanted something reliable. I would yeah, it'll be reliable. It won't it won't change. You'd recommend the cellular over just a regular, a mobile wireless still salary. It's all cellular. and. So unless you get a dish, some people some our viewers will get a dish. I don't recommend. It's very expensive. GotTa aim at every time you stop. You can't really use it while you're driving unless you're lucky and you're driving in one direction for a long period of time. But we're. RV and we're just traveling on the road so I. think that anything that is getting you Internet while you're out on. The road is going to be cellular. It's going to be Elti. You know even the hot spot, but they don't. He really carry anything they don't sell them. I fi-. Bribes has the by by fire. Uprising at and T. does and really they sell any. That's Nighthawk. They have the net gear nighthawk, but they don't seem to even carry that much of anything Yeah Yeah. They. Don't back it up, yeah! Yeah I'm looking on their website. They have they have a variety of them. The only difference is in the the the plan pricing. You Might WanNa. Look at that because the IPAD with twentieth twenty dollar unlimited. Data on the IPAD including hot spotting, because usually they limit hotspots. Yeah, they didn't say that. We take limited. Choir about that because. He's unlimited on the IPAD, but as soon as you are in hot spot mode. They usually have a limit on how much you can use that. Usually it's fine, but that's what that's. Where in other words. That's where you're gonNA. See the big difference. And eighteen charges you a monthly fee or a charges you for the hot spot, and then charges you. The plans price for the hot spot, so it's a little hard to do all the mass. But it's a little more expensive. I would guess it's a little more expensive on the other hand. It might have higher bandwidth caps. 'cause they're expecting you to. You know they know that you're gonNA be using. This looks like they sell besides the Nighthawk they have. something called the Harman's spark. And Dr Logo That's a camera though it looks like so that's not a hot spot. So I would yeah I honestly. To me. Check the MA-. The only issue will be checked the plan. You're going to get on the. Because it's twenty bucks. But if you're hot spotting I believe there's a different limit on it. So you get? A. Check! IPAD I also use you know, use at and T. and my ipad and I think I use Google's fi on that. The Nice thing about Phi is, it's just it doesn't matter if you're hot spotting. It's ten bucks a gigabyte. Period. Just for the data, yeah. I'm twenty has a limit on. Hot Spotting. We wouldn't be doing a lot of the hot spotting, but my wife would be using her phone from time to time for her personal use. That wouldn't be a lot. We just moly mostly WANNA get access to the Internet. Regularly reliably. Yeah so. I think the mighty little confusion just to clarify if you're not near a WIFI access point. Your Internet is coming through the cellular network hotspot. Does it refer to that? It refers to simply the fact that you're connecting one to one device to another device to get the Internet, so in the case of a ipad you using it as your hotspot, or you can buy these little, my Pfizer, other devices and using that for the Internet, but otherwise it's. It's the same. The what's different is the plans so anytime? You're not on Wi fi. You're going to be using cellular data. You'RE GONNA. Be Paying for it so the the thing to figure out. Of course they don't make this easy. They WANNA. Confuse you is what it's going to cost. And how much troop what your bandwidth caps are. That's what really varies. I'm pretty clear on that okay go. I appreciate Hey I'm glad you called lot. Thanks Gary. Sorry to keep you on hold for so Dang long have a great time. Okay thank you. Yeah, bye, bye! Well, Hey, how are you daily report here? The Tech Guy Dancing to the music. I have my own theme song. It's time to talk. Tech. Eight s Leo the phone. Number of the phones are working. Lines are backup. Thank goodness. I didn't WanNa talk for three hours I. Could I? As you probably know I have the capability? We have the technology. Eighty eighty eight. Ask Leo I'd rather talk to you. Website Tech Guy Labs Dot com line four, and that's in Tustin. Thank you for patiently owning on. No problem. Thanks for taking my call pleasure. So I, upgraded my windows seven PC to windows ten about six months ago. Everything's been good until about a week and a half ago. I wound up my computer and windows icon came on the screen, and there's usually a little progress indicator dots chasing each other around in a circle. That didn't happen and I waited and waited and waited. So I powered off power back on and started up normally great. Well that's the scenario everyday now it's. To get it started Yeah? Is Not going to start up. Did some looking on the Internet, and there's all kinds of advice out there about unplugging US devices, rebooting or disabling fast startup or doing rich. Accurate. Okay. The reason is, it could be a lot of reasons for it. Certainly USB devices can halt boot so if you've got at external drivers, something plugged in. It's worth just because that's the easiest thing to do. I always start with easy stuff. So, let's UNPLUG. The USB devices see if that stops it Let's certainly turning off windows. Fast food is a good idea. It's windows fast foods a terrible feature that should not be on windows, and it doesn't speed things up. Don't worry about dopey But honestly the symptom you described implies that the first time it's not warm enough. It's booting up from a cold start the second time it's gotten a little warmer in. It's doing better. That is not unusual with computer hardware, especially with spinning disks. Do you have the old style hard-drive, not a solid state drive. So. I have a spinning disk. Small solid state drive which at least when I was running windows, seven booed off that drive, but I don't know what it's doing now until hybrid drive probably yeah. That's an interesting question. the way the these weird hybrid drive is supposed to work is a very small. It was the solution. SSD's were very expensive. So it's was very small. You've heard me. You're obviously sophisticated. You know all about all this stuff. So if this is not free for your benefit, this is for everybody listening, but the idea. was you know SSD's or too expensive? Teensy went like a sixty four GIG. SSD too small. Really be useful, but we'll put the things you need. Fastest will put their and the rest of it could be spinning drive. The less expensive spinning drive is not a good solution, and nowadays as really better to use an SSD because the prices have fallen. It. What it sounds like to me you, you know a solid state. Drive wouldn't have this issue, but it spending drive could as it's cool. Just, the alignment is slightly different as it warms up. Oh, yeah, I can read that sector if you have a sector that's hard to read sometimes it as it warms up, it'll be easier to read. and. This is a very common problem with a spinning hard drives so honestly. I would try all the little things like the fast turn off fast boot and the USB. Everything you've read, try as long as it's not significantly changing your system. But ultimately it might be the new hard drive helps the other, and this would be a chance for you to put an ice fast SSD in there and they're not expensive. The and you could. Is it a laptop or desktop? Desktop, easy peasy the other thing, sometimes the power supplies. We'll do this as well. And the power supplies. They're easy to replace, but a little risky. Have capacitors hold a charge. They're not expensive. They're actually less probably than the hard drive replacement, but involves opening the case unscrewing some stuff new one in. It's a little trickier but if if if the power supplies flaky and you're getting low voltage from them for you know as you the next time you turn on, you get sufficient voltage for everything to start up starts up. That's fine. You know one way to fix it. Just don't turn your computer off. Elo. no. All No. I think the phone died again now we. Have a fairly complicated. Form Phone System And one of the pieces of that phone system is a voice over the Internet provider. And we've checked Dr Systems at the studio rebooted them everything's fine, but you hear that sound of silence. That means they're. The trunk died the VOIP service that we use died and we've got the engineers that one's that goes back down to a you. Professor, Laura and the engineers in. The premier network because they are the people who lease that she's back and that's back. You do anything or did you just came back? It just came back. Okay, yeah, instead line good. Oh! So. Wow. What did I ask you? We were so rudely interrupted I can't remember. But Yeah this this you I wouldn't do the power supply yourself. You sound fairly technical. If you feel comfortable doing it, that might be worth it getting a new hard drive. The Nice thing about that is it's not a bad thing to do anyway. It's going to speak up a lot. How big is the hard drive? And now she's gone. There's a there's a technical term. They use for this. In the computer business it's flapping. That's when something goes up and down and up and data. It's. flapping in the wind. It's flapping. This is separate from the connection we have. to premiere as obviously you still hear me. Professor Laurence still here's me. It's just the phone system, which is a completely separate system so. I guess this would be a good time to talk a little bit about fine sponsor and. Wait a minute. Is She back? Laura you back. There's just the slightest his when you're on the line is. That I can hear. It's like suddenly you go away and then you come back I. Think it's going to keep happening so. How big is your hard drive is big. Yeah I. Don't remember how big it is several Gig. Yeah, you can get a terabyte SSD. which would be improved performance of the machine? For like hundred fifty bucks. Okay, so. Try all the other stuff because that's free. But I think. They were talking about don't do no, no, no, no, no, no registry editing. What's happening is I'll tell you what's happening. I know what's happening. Windows gets through this process of booting up. It gets right to the part where it starts to load in from the hard drive and it stops. and. The system's going Gimme GimMe GimMe Gimme It's crashing. Now could be damaged. Also I mean one thing you might want to try. Is reformatting the disk and starting over, but this has been guest disc bad sectors. That's what happens. They wear out. How old is system? Probably about six years old. You know so what happens. With hard spinning hard drives is if they don't die right away like in the first three months with because of manufacturing defects date they go pretty well for the first few years, and then this is from a study done by cameras, Google or back plays somebody like that. Then they start dying at the rate of seven percent a year from then on after you're three. Seven so it just because there's. You won't have that same problem with the solid state drive. Doesn't mean that's what's gonna Ha. That's what's going on. It's just one of the possibilities, but it's the most common by far. Back up before you do that, okay. Actually backed up the WHO did. Data can tell them that you. You're clearly sophisticated user, so you're doing all the right things, yeah! I'm sorry that's happening. I'll try other things, and then I'll look at getting a solid state drive and. Out of curiosity when you do the upgrade to ten, you just did you do the Free One? I did and it worked. And it works fine, authorized and everything. Oh. Isn't that great? Oh, perfect, wonderful! Don't tell anybody at Microsoft, they must know by now. They just left it on I think they just said No. No, you have to buy it. Wink, wink, wink, and he's left it on. Great. There! You could try before you buy a drive. You could try clean install, but because it's dumb fusion thing that I I never liked that hybrid drive technology. Anyway, this might be a time to just take that all out and start over. Thank you in that I'm glad you hung in there through the phone woes will I? Don't know what's going on. Technology never works doesn't. Leo LaPorte the. Tech Guy Great Song from Professor Laura. That professor Laura ever since you got that degree. do you I know you're the musical director here at the Premiere? Networks but you also are you putting on your heart hat and going down underneath the studios to see how the phone lines are, or is that not your? That's not your job okay. You a little little hammer and your belt tool belt there and. Go down there and see. What would that phone lines doing down there? See if the rats got to it. I could try another call. Why not. Let's see. Here the magic hits it must be cannon La Hello Ken. Hi. Leo! I really appreciate you taking my call and I. wanted to say hi to Kim when she answers. She's just sound so frazzled or or ruin running so fast. I forget to say hi Kim Oh. She's got a lot of calls. She's juggling a million things, yeah! Look at her. She's so frazzled. I understand. I've been practicing in front of a mirror because the few times I've called you I've I've never been able to to to get my my my question across I'm GonNa stop and let you answer? That's my fault. I Apologize. All Yours No, no, no I've got two questions that I think are kind of quick I'm My I'm I'm very disabled budget wise because I've been out of work for a while on. Sorry, I've got I'm using old laptops I've got a three now and I. WanNa give one to a friend of mine. WHO's in a similar condition? It's an old Toshiba satellite. That I've loved and I just recently. Well Going back. It's stopped giving. And there it goes. This time. We had click. Before. We Lost Ken. Who has never this is? This is Kismet fate. He has never been able to get his question on the show. and. I'll. I can see because Kim talked to him that. She says he wants to talk about this Toshiba Notebook. He installed a new OS, but he can't get online. Can't get the Internet. And there's you know. We get a lot of calls like this. Then that's call was kind of like this to where you have a behavior you don't want. And you have a hideously complex piece of equipment in front of you if you think about it, your personal computer to Sheba, your. Your desktop, even your phone. Is more complex than anything else in your life. Ab Your car, maybe not maybe not. It, is insane. and. Unfortunately the surface. That, we look at the keyboard, the mouse, the Monitor. Don't really reflect that complexity and don't give much insight into it. So the whole trick with a PC whisper. He's to listen. Listen for the little hints that the computer gives you. To steer you in the right direction. You have to understand how it works. You know how the different pieces fit together how the process works and then listen for the little hints, so what could go wrong if you're not getting in and out of computer? Well lots right because it's as I said, it's hideously complex. So can you got your Internet service provider? So you up. He's back. Hi Ken. Oh He's gone again. This is us by the way not cans Internet servers right, so you guys your Internet service provider. Then you got your your wires into the house. Then you've got your router then you've got the Wi fi or the wires to your computer. there. You can't about one word in before. It's this is literally flapping where it goes up and down up and down up and down. So I'm just, I'll keep going until you. You come back and then so the things to check off the obvious ones the first thing when you can't get Internet advice one easy test one way one thing I always do is say well. Is it working elsewhere? So if you're Internet's working on other computers in your house all right, you got Internet. that routers the same router good. It's working the WI. Fi! You can't say good. It's working so now. We start with the Toshiba. It's very possible especially with a really old device that the wireless radio in the Toshiba's gone. That Toshiba will probably have an Ethernet Jackson one way to see if that's the issues to plug in a cable, and if you can get online with the cable. But. You can't get online with Wi fi now we've seen what we're doing. We're troubleshooting by eliminating possibilities. But if you can't get online with the cable, either are good all right so now. We know it's not the WIFI radio. It's not the cable most likelihood because those are separate subsystems Wi, fi and ethernet. Most likely that case it's higher up the chain. In fact, almost certainly not the hardware level, but the software level. Now we have to look at the settings. We have to look at the drivers we have you know, and that's where it gets a little complicated so. troubleshoot seeing if other things were try different cables. Try ethernet versus Wi fi. See. Other devices can use that router. That's the process. and it's kind of you know it's kind of. It's easy for me because it's not my system. That's not working so i. can kind of take some pleasure in the troubleshooting? When this happens to me. I'm screaming and yelling. I'm tearing my hair out. I'm cranky as heck. My wife knows step back. Step back. Get Away from Leo. 'cause he's cranky now because he's gone on on the Internet nerd. And then then the whole line went down. Everything's gone. So now, this is what I am going to start getting cranky. My wife is going to go home. Kim might want to step back. Here's the good news. We do have a connection all the way to Germany via Skype to our photo Guy Chris Marquardt. The photos sense say will be joining us in just a little bit, and you water guy. says. Maybe it's time to fire up the HAM radio. Yeah, maybe. We can take questions. From Amateur Radio Operators Leo. LaPorte the tech guys stay right here. Leo LaPorte the Tech Guy. Time for our photos sense. Chris Markwort at Census Dot Photo Chris Mart. Mr Leila Ford how how're you doing? Is it all right if I call you? My photo sent saying Oh absolutely I. Love this and say everybody knows who watched the credit kid sense as your your teacher right siege, it's it's simple as that it means, teacher doesn't have any higher meaning than that and that's that's what I've been doing for. Almost ever teaching photography, so you stay whacks on wax off anything. miaki photography. Let's talk about talking about photography. 'cause you do a podcast about photography. Many of them yes, the probably the longest running photo podcast tips from the top floor DOT COM do the future of photography, and others from time to time. So you spend time talking about photography. Even on this show you talk about photography. Yes, and and I WANNA talk about how to talk about photography because I'm. I'm in addition to all these things. I've one little other aside project that's called. Pick one photo, and you can find this as pick one photo dot, com which is a little video series where I talk to people about a photo. Also the talking about photos is something that I mean people might wonder. Why is that important I there to look at right? They're not there to be talked about, but. what I? What what I realized that one point that the moment I started discussing photos, talking about photos with others, and that's kind of important thing. I started understanding it much better. I started getting new ideas in my head I started to while my photography started to change the moment. I began discussions so I had this this project. This pick pick one photo thing again. This is just two people talking about a photo for half an hour. It's but but but it is amazing. The things you can learn and not just for your photography, but boy general when you talk to someone and photography is a wonderful. let's say a wonderful hook a wonderful thing to use that for and. We get this on the workshops all the time. When we do a review critique session, there's not to critique centers more a group review session where people show their photos, and then everyone talks about them. That is everyone get gives me the feedback that that is by far the most valuable thing for the entire weekend of a photo photoshop so Talking about photos changes something now the question. How do you talk about photos because? Have, you been on flicker or on any other photo platform. The normally what you get is Nice photo. Yeah, that's not good I like. These kind of things They don't really help you that much so I think it's it's. It's helpful to talk a bit about. What questions you could ask about a photo in a discussion and maybe even make that a thing We do this here. Montana we do this here. We talk about photos. We show each other photos that we took. And then we discuss them at questions questions like. Let's say why why this photo. Why not one of the other one hundred that you took on that day? you'd be, you'd be surprised. Answers because the moment. Ask this question. The other person has to. To? Try to figure out by themselves. Why they what? What triggered them? What made them press that button? You normally don't think about these things, but the moment you get the question like this, you start thinking about it and it changes something There's stories around photos. Let someone. Tell you a story about that. That's what we do on pick one photo. You find out what is what the story is behind a photo. WHO WAS INVOLVED Who else was there? Because when you see a photo, you never really see what's going on behind the camera, so that can be really interesting we recorded. a pick one foot episode today where where we talked about a photo that I took up in Luke line the Himalayas this little mountain is air more, and it's. It's a photo from from above on the onto the runway of that airport, but what? You don't see that they were hikers behind me and I'd say twenty hikers. As well, so it was. It feels the photo feels different than the reality of the photo A good question will be. Where did take place? What location maybe? If, if we can travel again one day what continent was it on? What city? When did it take place? That is also GONNA help you. Place that thing what? Year what time of year what season if it's not clear from the photo? Maybe even time of Day depending on. How you take a photo, it might not be obvious when it was taken, and that might be important information. I like asking questions about composition of a photo so. Why did you put that tree over there? Now over there and often the answer will be tough because you just. You just compose. You don't really think about these things, but the moment you start making this. A bit of a conscious effort then. Yeah again you will, you will questions you will start thinking about things in a different way and the next time you want to make a composition, you might make this. A deliberate effort. Oh, there's a tree. Let me think about. Where can I put this in the photo? Let me try different placements. Good questions. What does it make you feel? What emotions does the photo evoke to you because the person that took a photo? Is Very likely going to have a different approach to that photo? Then someone else's looking at individuals should be show a photo to someone else. Yeah, they will have a different different access to that photo. Then then you because you were there, you were in that place place had I don't know sounds and. wind and And Whatever and the person who looks at that photo doesn't have any of that so for them. It is going to be a different kind of photo. A question how I like to ask is what changes did you make? Did you make any changes to? What you're looking at before taking a photo. Maybe did you take something out because it was way? You know what I'm always interested in. I'm always interested in why that photo. Y that photo that is the demento question was triggered you. What? Yeah? What made you press the button? 'cause I have trouble you know. I try to walk around looking for photos, but I have trouble knowing when to take the photo. You know what it is. GonNa make a great photo I. If I get a good photo, it's. Pretty much by chance, so that's to me the most important question when you're talking to these great photographers What are you? What is? What's the process and I've great photographers and there's definitely something going on right. Some of them go around with a little frame. But the thing is the good thing. Is You and Lisa are both Dogra first so next time you talk? You have a photo. Hey, show each show to each other and then discuss. It spent five minutes on that photo and figure these things out. It will change your approach to the photos. of course I'm also often interested in the technology. What tick was usually take that camera lens way too interested in that? I need to stop being paying too much attention to that. I'm I'm curious in what was. was anything done in post processing in? Did this guy really look that dramatic, or did you I know? pull the pull the contrast of bit. so yeah, there's just so much to be found out about photos and It really helps. Talking about them does in every respect and you'll become a better photography if you do that. I started using A. Photo shops new camera for the IPHONE. And it lets you do weird things to your photos, so you might ask me where they're really flying Fudge sickles in that picture or go later. Well some answers are obvious. Smart if you would like to get better photography, there's no one better as a teacher or a sense. A go to N. Sei, dot photo for one on one instruction more Chris have a great week. We'll talk to you in two weeks taking next your next week off for the Independence Day holiday. Let me, see you do it now Leo LaPorte They Tech. You WanNa see a tech guy sweat. Just keep keep listening because The phones are still like they're really working. Kim is answering them and we'll keep checking your on the line. Hang on the line, but it does seem to be going up and down, and that doesn't make for a very. Very good conversation, it's flapping as they say Chris. Marquardt are photo guy an assignment every week. Let me tell you about the assignment this month. we have a couple more weeks to take. Our outside pictures were down to the letter Oh. And I think we're up to. Outside so what you do, is you take a picture? You can do it with a fancy camera. You can do with your back simple camera. You could do with instamatic. You can do with your phone. It does not matter and I'll tell you I've learned that part of that's one of the lessons I've learned from all of this. The the is what matters and photography not the technology at the stuff. So. I would like you to use your I. And I'm not gonNA worry about how you do it and take a picture illustrating the word, the concept, the idea outside uploaded to flicker. And submitted to our Tech Guy Group before you do tag it, so we know it's for this month's assignment TGI outside. T G outside now. I know that Rene Silverman are moderated. The Tech Guy Group says that June fourteenth was the deadline on. That's not the case. Oh no I see, she sang any pictures taken before June fourteenth. That's when we started. Okay, so in a couple of weeks probably won't be next week because the fourth of July two weeks from now. I think Chris will pick. Three of the photos tagged t g outside and talk about them. Which is always fun. Talk about the photos you know in. You know thinking about what Chris was talking about earlier. If you feel like it as you submit a photo to the tech, Guy. Group put in the notes. Put some information about why you took this photo. What was happening in the kinds of things? Chris was asking his photographers. Little background behind it. That would be kind of fun. Chris's never asked for that before, but I think I think I'd like to hear that. It's always fun to take those take those photos. T G photos. What do you think humor the is it? Down again. There's nobody on the line, is it? Did you go home? There's no one Kim is deserted the Sh-. She's deserted the ship. Okay, she just came back. What have we decided? I don't know. I take them and I can barely get the question clicks off and it's flapping yeah. So. The service that we use is Something's gone wrong. Something's gone horribly wrong. Kim Take the rest of the day off I will talk for the next hour and ten minutes about I will blather on. There's many things to talk about. I have no lack of things. Just take no I'll tell you what don't even try calling in because there's no point but keep an eye on it right. And as soon as are fine. Folks at the knock the network operations center for Premier say. Avoidance working again we will, we will announce it on the air and we'll take the call if people want to right questions in the chat room. All try and like I could see those too. Yeah, yeah, I don't I. Don't need no questions. I can talk five hours they. There's a lot of stuff to talk about this a lot of news believe it or not I was a little worried with the quarantine the whole tech. Community would. Shut shutdown. Not True. And you know who hasn't shot. Shut down at all is the hackers they spun up. What an opportunity for them right? Australia's government and institutions are being targeted by sophisticated state based cyber attacks for example this week. The Prime Minister of Australia. Scott Morrison said. They were they were being attacked. They believe it's by another country. Who Do you think MMM. All Levels of government, essential services and business. This is a bad as rotten as you can get. This is about as. Horrific as you can get here, we are in a global pandemic. A virus that knows no national boundaries knows no politics. Knows nothing about leaders or hacking. It's affecting us. All and people are dying. and Oh. Hey, here's an opportunity to try to take down systems. Let's. Come on guys. Shouldn't there be a worldwide truce. Morrison would not say which state although I'm guessing. They have a pretty good idea. No data breaches, no personal data breaches. That's one good thing about all of this is. This has been going on for so long now. We're all a little. Prepare a little bit better. Prepared. One would think anyway against these kinds of cyber attacks. He also said it's not just in Australia. It's Global And this isn't much of a surprise. He! He says the reason he thinks is a state. Attack is because of the scale, the the people being targeted and the technologies being used, you can almost always tell. I'M GONNA. Guess he's not going to say because he's prudent, but I don't have any political constraints on me. It's almost certainly China. It's almost certainly China, but who could do these things and by the way we're under attack all the time. Russians have been attacking us for some time. China Russia. Iran has surprisingly very good hacker core very talented hackers. Who are very good at this North Korea also does it, but I I have to say they seem a little less skilled. The people I always worry most about Russia and China and these are big enough states. They have sufficient. resources. To really do some nasty hacking. Who else does a country? You might have heard of the survey. We have some of the best. Of course we do. recent study Investigation of the NSA CIA hacking tells you remember the release of the CIA hacking tools some years ago. The faults seven leak. So big deal because that those tools were then used by lesser skilled. Criminal Hackers Stu, do all sorts of things they still are a lot of ransomware still takes advantage of exploit discovered by the CIA. Also this past week. The the report of the Inspector General On, this revealed that perhaps the CIA spent more of its energy, creating these tools than protecting them. A workplace culture in which the agency's elite hackers prioritized building cyber weapons. At the expensive securing their own systems. The breach which happened in. Will actually I think it happened in two thousand sixteen. But was discovered in twenty seventeen. Of the vault, seven tools was a ton of very sophisticated tools. You can kind of tell the state hacking tools. Your couple of things that are giveaways, the number one reason. Is that states are going after different information. So Criminal Hackers WanNa make as broad an attack as they can. If they're spreading ransomware, they want to get it on as many machines as they can right, they make more money that way. Sometimes they target a company, a school district a city. That's can be very lucrative, too and targeted attacks are much more dangerous. They're much more effective. State attacks are almost always targeted. In fact, the attacks are almost always designed at to be used once against one person. And then thrown away. So there's a certain feel that you get. Is I feel like we should've had a truce. I'm very naive, aren't I? This would be a good time. You know we're working on this virus. Let's all work together. Try to solve this problem. And then you know we can resume our hacking in when it's all fixed. Let's just. Take it easy and not be doing so much hacking? What do you say? Well Hey. How are you today? Leo LaPorte the Tech Guy. Time to talk computers the Internet. Home Theater digital photography smartphones smart watches. You got your. Own Theater anything with a chip technology. We talked about Ford F.. One fifties our number one. They're super chips. That report is going to start putting them eight. Ask Leo's the phone number. Eight, eight, eight, eight, two, seven, five, five, three, six, I mentioned that because even though we haven't been able to take phone calls for a while. I think. Kim Shepard tells me. That the phones are now working right. Kim For the moment. Years such an optimist. Let's try it anyway. 'cause I hate leaving people on hold that taking the call so I'm gonNA. I think Boston. All right, let's see we get Bob in here. Hi, Bob, Leo, LaPorte, the Teke From Boston. Can you. Hear me okay here you fine. Oh great I'm I'm about a half an hour away? P, mother up here in Massachusetts I love it I Miss New England so bad. How's the weather I? Think you had a big storm, right? yeah, currently. We're expecting heavy thunderstorms right now, but up until this point where we're a little on the rain, but rate weather up here, wearing my love it, i Miss Boston I love Boston. What can I do for you? Well I listen to you every week. All the time on all the podcasts cast, and just love you dearly, and with your recommendation I went out and bought the The heroes. Mesh Network Oh good. And I bought the the lodge set up I. Guess with the gateway, and the the two remotes and her, and and work great for about two weeks, and then all of a sudden it started dropping, and that's not good. For some reason I started having trouble, and I said well. Maybe I need another another device. So I went on bought another gateway I hope that was the correct thing to do another two hundred dollars young. And I put that in, and I only have a standard site house and. Probably. How big is your? House Two Thousand Square feet thereabouts. Serey you only need the base unit that connects year, cable, Modem, or DSL Modem and one beacon to to would do it table. Then I bought a third. It sounds like overkill. Make sure that that second gateway is in doing it knows it's on a bigger network. It probably does zero smart about that, so you joined it to your existing network, right? Because the good thing about euro is unlike normal modem routers they. It's smart enough that it says Oh. There's a network I'm not gonNA. Be Doing DHCP I'm going to let the boss to it and I'll just be a additional unit, so that's that's good the other good thing about it is that the euro co now? Some people think is a bad thing, but the way euros configured the home. Home Office can see what's going on. They have a lot of information so I would call Eero because they will tell you why it's dropping. They will know they have logs. They can even see and some people just bug. People and somebody should be aware of they can see what devices are on your system. They could see what devices might be causing problems. The whole system is designed for that. And that's the first thing I did Leo. Unfortunately, probably because of this virus I'd called three separate times. I was on hold more than. More than two hours oh no. And I called right the second. They opened up and your Pacific time so I can't imagine they'd had so many calls and I I just cannot written emeals tonight. There's just zero support going starting right disappointing. You know when I first got the euro. The support was excellent, wasn't yet an Amazon? Company I hope Amazon's purchase hasn't affected although I. Do have to say I think your instinct that might be related to covert customer service across. The board is terrible these days. I think it's because people are doing it at home. Their systems aren't working well. I don't know maybe the people. A lot of people are out That's but that's not was when I first started. Using the Arrow I haven't had a calm in a while, but they were right on. They would stay on the line with you. They would fix the problem. They were really really good, so I'm very sorry to hear that that's not good. Figure it out. I have a an. I run a Macintosh system. And I ran around the ring doorbell. The Ring Doorbell seem to be working out quite well of certainly get better coverage, and that was another device that you recommend it a while ago and I. I also an Amazon also am both those companies. You know if you WANNA. Get bought by Amazon. You should advertise on my podcasts because it seems like Audible Ring Eero, there were all advertisers. They all got snapped up by Amazon in. Late as Amazon bottom, they stopped advertising so i. don't know what that does. That I'm bitter so I. Make sure that it's not your router. Okay, so the first thing to to amend, don't mean router your cable modem. Make sure it's not the Internet service provider. Because certainly, that's a symptom. That we see free Evelyn comcast also I. I guess I unplugged everything I. Reset everything I called comcast they set. Everything's working. It's funny when it comes in from the road from my cable modem goes through the computer that is been rock solid. And then the Wifi network is the only thing that keeps on. Oh good good for a day or two, and then it just drops out again. Oh! So you're your Ethernet and you're eastern. It is always good. Always always good. That's a good sign. Then that means a of course, and this was I was talking about this last hour. This is how we diagnosed. That means a your Internet. Service is good means your Internet cable. Modem your connection is good. It even means the EERO is still routing properly, so it's not dying. It just means your wife is dying. That's That could be an issue in the euro could be you also. have nearby, neighbors. I. Do you know they're not exactly right on top me, but they're probably say a hundred and fifty two hundred feet away, and I shouldn't be a problem. I went on heroes, and I made sure that nobody else was coming close to my network and I- I block them. So there's no issue with that I know well. It's not even that, but you know you. It's sad that these are sold that they are by many companies very powerful multi. My Mo- routers that will actually improve your Internet by killing your neighbor. So. This is not a neighborly thing, but if they're more than one hundred fifty feet away, this should not be the problem. I had ample networks before and and they were all working great with the exception of some of my my ring doorbell video that was the furthest away kept on dropping out. So that's why switched over to your recommendation, the action in this one other thing that I I'm just gonNA. Throw it out there and I have the antivirus male whip bites on. My Macintosh shouldn't have an affect Trent. Normally not, although any security software sometime now we're bites does not because malware bytes not watching your Internet connection unless they've changed it. It's scanning your dry, but there are security packages I don't recommend because they can inhibit your Internet I when you unplugging re If you reboot Eero Master Eero not the beacons, but the master. Does that fix it. You know something I I. I've Read Henry Boot in the mall at the same time. You don't need to do that, but it just what next time it happens, plugged them the gateway. Gateway Okay Plug it in again. Wait a few seconds. Plug it in again if that fixes it then almost certainly. There is a problem with it and you know. I think you gotta get hero on it because they can, they can. Their technicians can dial in and see the logs, and they can actually diagnose the problem and in most. You know what I would hope they would say. Oh, yeah, we're GONNA. Send you a new one. You might also take that new one that you bought and put it where the old one was. Oh, that's great. That's an excellent idea. Take the one out of service even. Okay because. It'd be my guess. It's not the beacons. It's the it's the gateway and so. You're right. That could switch those around and give that a try. You leave the leave the old gateway out of loop. Just in case it's doing something bad. See if that fixes things. I would try that. Yeah, and I'm really sorry because I recommend hero based on my own experience, we still use it and I have had very good customer service. This was pre covert. Of course. an pre Amazon so i. don't know if maybe Amazon's degraded the service or maybe just cove it has. The first two weeks I couldn't believe it my job. That normally takes probably thirty potty seconds to come alive with the new Mesh Network it was like three or four sad bingo. I was there and I said. Wow, thank you, thank you. Actually. That's one of the good things that euro does is it's an automatic quality service adjustments? They know what's watching. What's not watching? The know what's going on and they're very good about responding to those things So I, you know I just. Hope. It's a bad unit that they'll replace. That'd be my hope I'm sorry. Switch those around and you're GONNA have to. You'RE GONNA affect. Set up your network again. Because when you swap that gateway now it needs to be the you know the the boss, so you have to go through that initial setup again. I will okay well. Greenwood thank you very much? Rush I really. Thanks Bob. Have a great day. All right. We. We were joking. Off The bob heard well while he was on hold that it seemed like the phone lines were working, but I think we. All the callers are calling for another. Show the rush limbaugh program. Also and this network, but I, but fortunately Russia's not here on Saturday so I think. I think they're all for me. you'll get is a different number but I there. You know you never know where these phone systems. We'll get back to the phones. They're working Hallelujah. Thank you to the network operations center. Those guys do a great job. Keep on truckin baby report. The Tech Guy! Dr Mom is given me a link on how to switch your Eero Gateway from Ero- dot Com, so that in the show notes. That's where we put all the additional material from the show everything. I talked about plus at Tech Guy Labs Dot Com. Check, you don't have to write anything down as you're listening. Just remember that Tech Guy Labs Dot com, and you know I'm not charging. Not Making you sign up. It's free. It's wandering. There's a search there you can find it. We have every show. This, is episode one, thousand, seven, hundred and eight. Audio and video from the show's. Text saying what we talked about what the answers were links and so forth. And it's all divided up by show, and then each show by our and then each hour by segments, so it's all easy to find. Tech Guy Labs Dot Com. Linda in Los Angeles Leila Port. The Tech. Thanks for being so patient Hi Linda. I've been trying to get in for weeks so when I look you having. My son, not throwing away my shot. Well, what can I do for you Linda? Well I got a question just about chromebooks for someone like me. Let me tell you about my background in computers I feel like I really grew up with computers, even though in the eighties I was in my thirty. My early eighties I was working for the naked mini company. The naked many company that was computer automation. A man named David. Who invented that little naked mini computer that went into those first ATM machine Oh my goodness when we first started seeing everybody lining up at the Bank of America's. Be Diggity danged. And, all the guys that were actually the computer heights in there. Of course they had a huge mainframe in a cold room, but they were all using trash eighty. You know the T. R. S. eighties from radio SAT. So, that was the early. Days. Though kidding, that's really cool. That is when you have A. You have a very important place in computer history fact I'm looking at a picture of Dave in the crew in their traditional skinny black ties, white shirts and suits in front of an IBM the looks like a system, three seventy and there there's a little teletype next to them. The NAKED MINI COMPANY WOW! That's street. That's. Cool. By and then in the mid eighties, I was learning on IBM tease. Those were out by the. Eight minutes something. I you know I. always figured out. Your phone was had to be that anyway hustler. wordperfect, so I kinda grew up with computers, and by the late eighties I was working for Peter. Norton Oh. My goodness, did you? Did you know Peter or is it just had he left by then? I was hired into the RND department. It was the wrong job for me, so I didn't say that long, but I was always in the meeting. That was the one that has somebody had to take notes right. Out, of course, it's going to be the woman in the group bright. Orange, Computer Programmer we did have one lady that was a computer programmer. Nice yeah, and they were spoiled rotten, but but he was very generous Guy Peter. Peter was a great guy. Of course he sold the company SYMANTEC and Oh, apart the became a different company, but when it was the Peter Norton Company pretty impressive yeah. I and I ended up with his old born computer. What you have Peter Norton's Osborne. Anymore I was like wow, anyway, anyhow, those were the days. So my question about from books since I. Do you know I'm just not at all technical really when it comes down to it, and my husband usually just does everything for me rather than so me what to do. That's not good, because then you go okay now, what? Yeah I wanted from book because I want something that you know I've got a a an all in one right now that just keeps crashing, and so the Geek squad going to get tired of me and I. I wanted to get a chromebook and I'm a big Fan and I think you'll be a fan too especially if you don't want to mess with stuff. CHROMEBOOK is kind of like a concept that we had way back. Then in the eighties of thin computing, the chromebook is really a gateway to servers and all the work. Almost all the work done. You know on servers on Google's drive. Google docs the web, but it's a very secure as a result and I think there are some beautiful chromebooks out there my current favourite. Is The chromebook spin. From Acer, A. C. E. R.. Reading this reading, would you about an acer entrust came out. Yeah, and it's Dave yet. Drool exactly now there are it's not the cheapest there certainly cheaper computers, but it's reasonably priced for what you get I think. It's about six hundred bucks, so that's a little pricey for chromebook. You can get much less, but of course you can also spend much more. Business models right are more expensive. Is GonNa make a business version that will start at two thousand, but for six hundred bucks. You get an I five processor. That's a lot for chrome os eight gigs of memory more than enough hundred twenty eight gigs of Ram to me. That is a competent. Yeah by itself, and it's running chrome Os, which makes it more secure. It's a spin which means you can tilt it around and use it as a tablet great for watching movies, so yeah yeah okay great. Yeah I was listening to since I couldn't get through, I was listening to hours and hours of your chromebook. Comments on all of your. Own? Website? Great thank you. Look up chromebook and then go back to that one and. This spin your your timing is good. Because as you noted this spend just came out and I think it's the the the current King of the crop. They're still a lot of good ones. Acer makes them a seuss makes them. Both of those are very good, but I like this new spin. I think it's very good for macer. Any of the best fights have any in stock yet. They should soon they should sue. Yeah, thank you my pleasure so nice to meet you and the naked mini. ATEKA. is so great to talk, so you weren't a technical person, but you but you were. You were there when history was being made. Yeah, yeah? I was more the writer editor and the technical guys always wanted me. To. Technical stuff because I didn't know enough. You could. You could channel the reader. Yeah I didn't didn't read between the lines and I said something's missing here. You know, explain this part. Yeah Yeah Athlete Ferry Nice, I'm so such a pleasure to talk to you and I'm glad you got through. And if you want to spend less, there's some good other you know. Somebody saying I agree the Lenovo Duet Hundred Dollars Very. Nice what you get if you spend more as you get, a better screen and keyboard, track pad right, and what I did was I converted my My my money that instead of converting my rewards into. Stuff I, said Yeah. Let's turn this into money and put it in my credit card account so I'll have it for my chromebook, so I've already got four hundred dollars good. Good, thank you. I have loved you for years. Iraq tough. The ears lot of the guys in the squad I say. Do you ever live? On Saturdays. Less you. Oh that's so. That's so nice of you. Thank you. That's really nice. Thank you real pleasure meeting you thank you. Take care do by by Funk funk. Roadway Lady Laura you are just. Doing it today, I love that. Music Director. I'm sorry. We promoted you. DidN'T WE PROFESSOR LAURA? Probably because here, stick straight out now. She looks like A. Crazy. Professor a professor? That go in the contol room moving on with the show. LEELA POOR TAKE! Eighty, eight eighty eight, asks Leo the phone number. Line three in Missoula Montana Hello Andy. Good afternoon. He'll thank you for taking my call. Thanks for calling. I, do appreciate it. I gotta I got the problem here that I hope you're able to help me with. Okay, my mom, my mother was hurt computer. And keep it up being. Windows ten home. Keep it up graded, as is required. you've windows defender as the. Antivirus. Ensure skin scancen every time I go over there. And a couple of weeks ago or maybe a little longer. All. The windows, Menus, he does not work. When you hit on the keyboard or puts it on the screen. the venue does not come up. And they can't figure out how I obviously remove a few times, and it just nothing they can do, and then when I googled it. Talked about going into the registry, which is I'm a little delivery. So. There are a lot of reasons that start menu might not work as you've googled you've already seen. I'd say roughly dozen solutions out there. Trust the ones that more at Microsoft Dot Com than other. You're I completely sympathize. Was Your situation because you've done? And I've done this as a son to you. Set up for your mom a great system. It's you know and you protected it. You've done everything right but it's any user especially user who's not. Not really sure what they're doing can do things that will make things tough working. It's completely normal. And it's hard for you, and this is really the problem with. Operating Systems like windows. It's such A. It's a powerful system. It's really designed. It's not designed. Like a chromebook might be for a user that just you know wants to do. Stuff is not sophisticated. Windows, assumes. Either that you know what you're doing, or you got an it department most often the. Guess WHO's the IT Department for your mom? Although I'll tell US promote peace fee for your suggestion. It works pretty slick. That's a great again there, yeah? Do you know, and you probably don't. But did she recently run a windows, update? She, doesn't they're getting but I do every time. I, go, there's good. Check it. That's the way to do. It is not let her do it. Because windows up fact that this is one of the symptoms of a bad windows update. So windows up uptake can cause these kind of things. It could cause all sorts of things that's. Although it's important to do. It is probably important for somebody like you to do it as opposed to for her, so you're doing the right thing if you're seeing her every week. That's fine. That's more than quickly enough. So, there's a number of things can be. The software can be software to she. Install soft wherever. She doesn't do it. She only has a couple of things installed on it. And they've been. They've been there forever. I just read. Windows completely, that'd be the easiest in some ways I mean. You can't a registry at it might work. So that's a lot easier, but it's also a little riskier, but if you've found some registry edits that might. They just I mean I'm looking at all the things that can cause this. And there's a lot. There was. A little leery about. Do you need a registry at it? Yeah, I mean although if. If it doesn't work. Then you're always. fullbacks reinstall windows which you were prepared to do anyway. There is in windows ten There there's a refresh command that would be the first thing I would do. which isn't really reinstalling windows? Is it's? Designed for this. Saddam to fix it Have you tried starting up in safe mode to see if that works? Guess. What just happened? I, said safe mode. and. The phone's died. Up Now. He's back. Have you tried safe mode? Yeah, We had a brief outage. Go ahead. I lost yet repressed. Have you tried to safe mode? I have not tried safe on. So that's one thing that would tell you if there's a conflict with the driver or some installed software. To say you know how to do that, you hold shift key Dan reboot and hold the shift key booting. It'll start up with a minimal set of drivers if it works then that makes it a lot easier, because then it's something you could install or or get rid of the other thing to do and I would always do this. Do this from now on with. Your mom is having another account that she doesn't use. Because the other diagnostic is to log into a second account and see if it's happening there. And the reason I always yeah I always do this because from even do on my systems whenever I set up a new system I create an unused account administrator account, and that's there for exactly these kinds of things. Where say well, let's see if it happens. In somebody, else's profile if it doesn't. Then it's something. She did something in her profile. Maybe some button she clicks them setting. She made, but that makes it easy to fix also. somebody saying that this is a good point. I I. Don't know if this is a case, but make sure it's on tablet mode. That would be something easily done by accident. If. She put it in tablet mode. And that's over in the system in the task Tobar Trae there. there's whole lot of things you can do. you can do it from power shell. There's a power shell that. Re registers the start menu. I can go on and on. These are kind of nutty. Little things I. Don't think you need to reese reinstall windows. What I was saying before we were cut off is if you go into the recovery, you know hit when well you can't get the start menu. You can get to the recovery. portion of the control panels in the control panel. There's a refresh windows command. I think I lost him again. But that is very useful. Honestly. This is one of the reasons I don't like using windows for situations like this. I can use windows, and probably a lot of you listening and certainly everybody in the chat room. All the enthusiasts can use windows. Without any problem, no problem not talking to you. You're the guys who always say no Leo is is great because you know what you're doing, and you're also a little use to the pain. Used to the fact that you do a windows update on everything breaks. Your printer stops working your desktop disappear. You're used to that. You know how to fix it. You know you. You'll some answers to get it working again. Well, ao windows is great, but you're an unusual crowd. You're an unusual bunch. Windows is really designed for you. The enthusiasts, but much more and Microsoft's business is really built on. Its for business and businesses, particularly with it departments and anybody who runs a small business without an it department knows what I'm talking about here. Users can mess up windows one hundred ways to sundown. In a blink. And if you haven't really if you don't have an IT departments really locked it down or some support desk. They can call. It's kind of a nightmare. So. Really for MOM for anybody who isn't willing to do that. If you don't WanNa, be the it guy and you are now. That's where chromebook is a really good solution, and the Nice thing is most of what people do. And you gotTa Watch. See what she does, but it's rare that they're the normal. People are doing anything that needs anything more. Than a browser. And they can live on chrome os very happily. And, then if something goes wrong like this, you power-wash gets right back up and running in minutes and you're done. It's very simple very easy, so don't yell at me. You dozen thirty S I know you love windows who doesn't ever lose windows except the poor people who have to use it and then have to call me. And I feel for you. Is Way over complicated. It's a power system for power users. Leo LaPorte the Tech Guy. Thanks to Professor Laura Musical director she with the baton up on the podium there leading the orchestra. Beautiful jobs they lady Laura. Are Orchestras one of the best cover bands in the world. 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Take? A couple more calls before we wrap things up Jim on the line from Calabasas. California, Hi Jim. Neal, thanks for taking my call. Thank you for calling. Thanks for hanging on. I have a question for you you. Believe indicated that if I have a windows, ten computer, operating system, and that the. Windows defender is sufficient to protect you against Mel where absolutely well it is, and it isn't so. So here's the deal on that. No anti-viruses sufficient to protect you against Mauer period right. Nobody's going to protect you hundred percent, so don't go wandering down dark alleys. You are the ultimate. Defense the First Line of Defense. Be careful. What links you click, be careful assuming that an email it seems to be from a friend or a coworker is really from that person very often. It's not you know, be careful. What software you download download is minimal amount offers. You can stick with stuff from known good companies, you know the big companies or some are A. A company that you've you know gun stuff with before in other words, your your behavior is much more important because no any viral protect you against dangerous behavior. It's nice to have something kind of backup and windows. Defender is as good as any other antivirus and better, and at least one respect because it comes from Microsoft, it's safer. They sandbox it so of malware gets A. Lot of anti-viruses operated very low level in the operating system and And and bad guys if there's anything. Wrong with that antivirus any mistakes made can use it to get to the levels of the operating system, and this has happened with big name anti-viruses Multiple Times. Defenders safe, so it's it's good as good as anything it. It's perfect, but nothing is, and it's safe to use so. Yes, the answer is absolutely it's enough. And we lost him. I wanted to give you a chance for a follow up. Let me see if he comes back. I would not, he told. Kim I guess. I'm looking at her notes. Should he have Norton in addition? Absolutely, not absolutely not absolutely not first of all. Never there you are. Jim Is there anything else you want to know? Well. I missed you flap die now. Gosh! Darn that flapping I kind of missed most of that, but I also signed up for Norton Internet. Security because I figure the windows. Defender does not update as frequently as it it up more than enough and do not. Do not use, Norton. Period. Why is that to any viruses bad idea? Norton is one of the anti-viruses that in the past has caused problems, because bad guys have been able to use it against you. And my experience with the Internet defender is its way overkill and causes all sorts, internet connectivity issues and slows down your computer. It's unnecessary. Defender is fine. You don't Need Norton. Okay? Norton It's not about how often and updates defender updates as much as it needs to. Which is frequently? I'm sorry you missed the the the meat of the matter which is I'll just say it quickly. It's you. That's most important your behavior online. No antivirus is anything more than maybe fifty to sixty percent, accurate and stopping viruses too many through, so you got to behave. And putting the out, give you the really important base rule install no more software than you absolutely need everything you install on your computer has the potential for opening holes in your computer causing performance issues causing reliability issues. Only install stuff you absolutely need from well known companies do not install to any viruses. You already have one. That's enough. Installing Norton will not make you more secure. It will make you less secure period. There's no other way to say. It will make you less secure. You don't you don't need. and. It's I mean it's expensive. Don't need to. Engage his that expensive, but but why do it if you don't eat it if it's not going to help you? 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Torsten 'Clear' Rybka

The Queens Fortress

42:00 min | 1 year ago

Torsten 'Clear' Rybka

"What do you get up to and you can't sleep? I read books a get into my phone. I questioned myself. I have a new home while Kia fictional character crush. What's okay no problem between fiction and nonfiction? I was the difference. You since the loss the lies. Who's your crash from? The lies made of me anyone who has to be him. Yeah yes worst thing you have ever been caught doing instead. He picked up. Why you're really come back as you'll get to teach your pitch to say one thing. What would it be would up word? I'm yes or no to mainstay. Yes this great humanity to an alien and we are. We are an organized. Kale's I'M A to simplify. My mind was get was. What color should the ocean be? Wow it was blue blue. What are you most grateful for right now for the current drug? They're busy with and things are coming in abundance. Nanday they're working in a land with the universe and God is like Augusta. You could kill one illness. What would it be an illness? is depression and illness. You Sir yeah okay if you were in a witness protection program what would your name be. And where would you be out? Be Thomas Thomas League. Would you be out be the belly of A DISA- Baba issues. Okay I been. You've been caught doing clear your guys. Okay okay begging. The day with enchanting is homeboys you know they developing a new area in La Khudobin. Yeah and then we stole cats and then we tried to get water and then we open the gifts in this house which was still under development and then we got chased. Our at random chased is in. Then I kinda fascinated by the most important question of the day John Wayne whine. Thank you the best way to start the season. What'S UP YO? You are in the Queen's poachers and we are children with torsten clear. Ripka shot of wine to start the morning. I I guess I continue you choose. Yeah you don't really. Yeah yeah opening white there we go and the last snap. Unfortunately I'd ask Tustin. Yes introduce yourself with the poems. There is no difference between night and day in Palestine. The Sun and the moon out of Palestine's view the earth and the atmosphere oldest collide in Palestine space and time out of mind in Palestine. Heaven is trying to find its footing in Palestine while hell his drenched. It's hot all over Palestine. The people they eat bullets and explosions for breakfast. And drink it all down with each other's blood through eyesight. Fresh air is a foreign thing to the lungs for the only know how to Inhale Death. An army tanks though kneeling. They know his bombs. Dropping from the sky warplanes camouflaged as clouds land. Mines sprouting out from the surface like weeds and the clowns are holding spirits. Hostage in the address lists. This place is the perfect definition of the valley of dry bones. Children used toned-down homes as pillows at night and they sleep with one eye open for the rapid rattling of rifles alibis. Gaza stripped to the call for the world wants to get rich permits rich black sue and the only way to survive. They is sadly to die. Fighting is the daily braided. They have no choice but to stomach. It family members only recognize each other by being part with mothers leg pods here and armed pilots over there. The father's head pods there and parts of this fingers over there. The sisters hips partways. There and there in the is partly some way over there the brothers heartbeats in pods there and his guts are apart every way here. This poem is it. Yeah no I can assure you shortly so people will have to hear it when they get the chance to full in-depth full in-depth to cut into to win. It's like one minute forty seconds if I'm not mistaken. Roughly something. What's up guys this season. Two hundred twenty two guys in your spending with a dangerous dangerous man Yell Pa either as wanting for me but why has now spoke of Palestinians like a very serious thing? That's going on okay. Rate and like. I don't think the media does could coverage return what your opinion is of what's happening in Pakistan right now? I think they're just covering. What is benefiting the news right now? Which is the surface of an oral. You know what we are used to like. They're painting a picture for us to get into the situation. Where it's always bombs killings. Always doing this things armies invading the place and whatnot. You don't know indepth story about it where they are countries monotony me waiting for their own personal use because they know these rich oil and they know if they get hold of the head they know that they have the world in the of their hands. So that's why that is not even highlighted. Because when I was writing this poem I was talking to my mother in because she knows a lot about opinion. You know 'cause you told me like no the main reason because because of the oil you know and like this these countries they're trying to camouflage and try to Pray with all these bombings. The army going. And so it's it's a. It's a yeah. Cover up this okay. This is a huge compensation in the space of a poet. Taking someone else's story and making own remain to go. We need to go there. 'cause there's this thing of okay cool. Some people feel poorer the voice of people and retail. What's happening right now? We tell the truth of what's happening in our hands and other people feel like if you're not a woman if you're a man to not speak as a woman. What is your take on speaking someone else's story telling someone else's story it depends Muscian. You shouldn't but indepence as a poet You must understand as much as your work is sensitive. You must take the next person into consideration as is And it depends how you write it because these certain people who write in order to get recognition other people's work through other people's as soon as you get on I mean but if you come with an intention to raise awareness that's another thing as well My personnel mad about this situation. I say guys you have to skies and it was grass anyway issues at a specific piece Asia. When you add on a new name people do. What do the people who had issues with me doing poem about homeless people and studied photography at two T- ads campus and ahead of documentary assignment that it had to do over theory school period as school break periods? So I took a huge leap of faith in juneau AD. Limina do the usual usual at everybody's different. The universe just known today to about homeless people and took like I said You. Not even my lecturer say take that people faith in spend some time with him. You know Nosy like okay. I will go an extra step and say you know what? Let me try and spend inmate or two with them and camouflage myself as a homeless person to get this story in depth not excited so to be cutting the story short. I didn't survive the streets. You know I spent the day even the NATO when alas name you know and it was a rough guys because I I heard stories and so things and it was it. Staff guys address not beautiful. 'cause like these people would even step each other for a blanket to keep warm at night and. Oh Yeah and then the Palestine Poem also. It was bashed bashed. You know you you you you witness off today but you know it's like no limit hold beg because they're gonNA get pissed now. So what I did is that I can go to Palestine guys you know besides having a passport or visa or whatever you know even financing what It's rough out there. You know what is going on right now so what I did is that I gathered as much information as possible. The News looks history with my mom as well knowing these things so I gave it all those things and I put it together. And they've called me at a conference called GonNa Gang In Solidarity with the people of Palestine does the Palmas born. You know so I delivered poem and there were a couple of people from Palestine date. There was a guy a boy who experienced the violence there in the there was an explosion that happen next to him and then partially his his head was like out ahead to be transported to from Palestine to South Africa to get like that surgery and to cover up the you know so I delivered a poem in front of people from Palestine and people even have a problem with it. Then you come then come to their places boom and they'd become DB. Can we say if you WANNA speak to someone else? The the main thing is information and the information is important guys okay and Said said enough. They were poets. Who came to this place? Twenty eight hundred thousand nine hundred who delivered poems guys and they ask them questions and they just said no ours inspire add this and they didn't even get information and stuff like that and Okay to to to be blunt on this show casing the place in August and they asked me why I'm not claiming anymore explained and told them that why is it that would diesel so quick and write a poem about a prostitute and he's never been a prostitute and okay okay. He's never he's reasonable about Texas drivers and I think and believe is never written a poem apart security cuts. I don't think he's ever been executed. Who has written a poem about Parkinson's disease and I don't think he's ever had Parkinson's disease so does poems are more welcomed than my poems about homeless guy in Palestine. What did I do wrong? So you think it's a pick and choose thing to such an extent and also I think that these people were in agendas against me some announcement would unsound is having awards on the ninth of February. Those will be happening at the pop. Iv Via ta one hundred grand kids in for free and it all starts at three thirty PM on the twenty second of February C. S. P. is having a Titians. This is one. Pm At the job of theater. The CASCA Volodya. While on the twenty third of February at Reception Kingston is having a show. This is the law show at seven years. They'll be moving venues in March. We'll keep you updated the starts at Twelve PM. We are dying years happening on the ninth of February as well at the job of theater at seven PM. It is written by people as each owners. Hope and the music is stunned by Papa. Makwetu PICKED OUT POETRY. Has Changed Location? There now puppies they. Nick show will be much. We will keep you updated. Morita. You in this guy's improve your kids black kids republic also up the new show cover me. I'm going in. Maria was the first video and the next one is coming out soon to stay tune. Or I guys for those of you. Who Don't know the boy is have tim. Yes how him in my local. I'm so you know you could call me a best of both worlds album. You know here. We're going to drop a few random facts about Germany. Okay and we'll see. Seventy percents of the puzzle mckinney. No under to Remember ranked number one. How many countries have German as the official language? Wow okay I think it might be the numbers. Let's get into Navien region man many countries that are l. Take short the darkness I think for. It's five. Sorry House One. One look already of truck on Mass WanNa should've taken this all right. What is the capital of Germany? Palin of all right how many different beers are the intermediate. Is it over one? Point five or one thousand five hundred. Is it over two hundred or is it over. Seven hundred must be over one point five because they serve because they'll fest your values it's a week. It's a week is a drink in your own right now memorial. How many states does Germany consist of dame low? You're not gonNA count throwing them. Betas ten sixteen. You can only get one more those truffles. The first printed book was German. I printed book was in German In the world truffle falls. It's true or next lot brand. What about letting? Listen Sir I rated what brand. What brand of call almost German taxis bins? Nope I'm okay. What is the punishment for attempting to escape jail? Y'All I don't I don't think it's death. I doubt if I doubt is bringing you back to jail because like defeating the I know you quitting this one. I don't know is no punishment because it is human instinct to train three lives. The world's narrow street is in Germany. Right okay how often is it at? Its narrowest in centimeters and narrow narrow narrow street when as a hundred. I think it's how you guessing one meter trying to get anything from me. One point five meters. It's thirty one centimeters and I had the thing in my Indian Indian meters. All Right Truffaut's the government can retake to be a baby names false. It's true they can retake to name. If it's weird in Germany all right and the last time the longest word is actually a German word and it is seventy nine letters long we are. GonNa have you trained pronounce this? Guy's name Jeff. Let's go to Jim and I will try leads gentlemen this thing now and I have to like bring out my accent of this. What do I know how I feel? You failed yourself. Not should've way between them. So I'm so I am going to. Jim GonNA throw you off GonNa through your became. Take this out of the punishment on behalf of testing through that one. All right guys we hitting into our first song of the day. This is given the illustrative massillon. Like I do enjoy ghosts and efficiency of changing people's expectations hope the way to fishing resting on my shoulders. Heavy burdens Begat for Nuffield. That quasimodo a child was pulled to remember that my bachelors and when it aches could be neighbor paints of giving. Because I've been hell bent on making my dream some and my distant. He's not a path that is inescapable. See the Pacific this has always been optional. Visits before we do you wish to succeed. I can tempted to say no but the thought of my watching makes me get up and go and buy the Jesus always embraces a product. The fear buffet that makes me too anxious to set my best. Hope Emma situational change and now forget. That failure has lessons to take the city. Frighten Away Home Navigate Mazes. Help me Cabbie the node. 'cause it's hard. My shoulders ache to walk out of city city. Not My way. Home navigate through dismays. Help Cabbie the node. 'cause it's hard shoulders as to the desert heaps of my insecurities incompetence investing with anxiety when looking at my neighbor. It's always competitive. Better life or manny so not me. But my and I'm able to see the part of that. He told so. We focused to me but his pay he gets hidden success his father addiction to pornography. He's climbed up the corporate ladder. Hit his life remains empty and his father has diminished apathy and lack of meaning in his burden. He told the CABBIE Gabby smart in his face today in vanity. But I'm reminded every product has a home field defeated. I convinced the sort of not known. I wanted theses connected from Spitzer bone when field the low. I can test it. All comes my way home navigate dismays in helping tabby the node because it's hard on shoulders ache to the bone sitting up in my way home. Navigate through this maze. And help the Cabbie the node. 'cause it's hard shoulders aches to the point of this city Now sitting up in Africa participating most days Chinese listless city housing people that are looking for themselves making it very hard for one to easily find love for this city. How trained those to dealers from our hearts since in his daily customs of torture to forget the magic that Amir kiss embargo possess but the day we met we found each other among the rubble of moving bodies and God means to make Earth stance deal for us. It was as if we've known each other for light years. If our souls today demerged heaven must have handpicked us on purpose. Morality was a blur when I got lost in hair site. She managed to hold hard in shaky knees together for the for. She loved the earthquake that took place inside of her for the mere taste of love gives us the feeling of eternity living in the prisons of God's masterpiece they use the soul. It is for those that dive into it with the spirits head. I in those that let their hearts Huggett until the ends of time for love breathes breathing and the heart becomes late headed in the soul. Dance Rhythm with peace and guests to quenches. Thirst with joy for love gives goosebumps an to kiss the body skin and the time to die in order to live and breathe in heavens so to those who are baffled and are constantly rattled by love in those that think it is a little league needs a lifetime to figure out to those that have doubt and see it as a black sheep in those days like it but never seem to be truly devoted to it to those that are crooks steal it at midnight and fake it with crooked smile during the day to those that abuse it by punching the feelings of his devote ts to those that impose on it for their own selfish benefits. Let it go before you drag innocent souls with you. You don't have been Nagai's name you have love in your life don't have do you have in la. La until I came in good time. 'cause like the blunt is has not been face matched to poems at one and I didn't even. I'm not a new concept I it happened. I did not prepare for it but it happens him. I think I got the line right. Mariela to blow when I got lost and I I what what what. What the Lodge Yo. What's up guys? You're still taking in the critical trust with your Maury and we have a clear and try. Yeah yes here is a flame in the studio so croissant so much to talk about guys. Oh you went to Washington DC or year with Jonathan Takas Exchange Program how they talk about DC went to begin. I'm getting flashbacks. Who's on Lake Stories? We don't WANNA hear Morozov. Listen EP feeling bad and the beautiful thing about Washington. Dc Ladies and gentlemen is that you get to perform a very night. And I mean every like these Chouhan slash franchise called busboys and poets. Where they have sessions every night there whether it's an open Mike with a gift featured poet they have slams and all of that. You know got to do workshops with a school with an art. School really focused strictly on your leg. Your Journalism Your Music. All these things you know. So I got to do like a writing workshop with Generalists staff students were studying journalism. Yeah what else are got to perform at the Freedom Day Bri in Washington. Dc So many South Africans. They are giving their living. They're fully yeah like you moved to. Dc from what you experienced. Not Really. It wouldn't help you outgrow like how's The in terms of ads. You could easily easily flourish easily easily. Not as difficult. He's not as difficult as like here in house. Who sought us what Afric- and then in two thousand sixteen this man decided to perform Darod and produce. He's own piece of work. Lots of the madness. This is called speaking from experience and capable Mississippi State Theatre in Pretoria at twenty sixty two flashing. This body of work is Dialect Ted and roads a the things so I did it with a fourty. Male choir and jazz bent. Ed was a bassist Somebody on drums then keyboard and Saxophone. So the production was like one hour twenty five minutes long. If I'm not mistaken delivered nine poems and then we brought it also the Mafia for the Trade Faith Festival in award. Winning team another award. You got poet of the wooden solid. Dean was the was the poll that you want with. It wasn't based poem. Say Hey mega is show coming out. Top five for seven episodes from not mislead you perform episodes and then get up by for seven. I performed a performed seven out of eight episodes. Then a one king of the Mike for one episode Yolande Bezos. He just wreck things. That's that's that's the date you know whether University Gordon. Can you speak about another one? Just beat okay. You are what you spit is a poetry movement where we come together as poets and then I groom them the mentor They come to me there as we can. I like to things with poetry has come through the help I can help. You and have workshops have opened my eggs. We get together. We share poems but what we do at the same time as that. We share poems. And then we get to dissect the poem not to say This was good. This is bad but we also dissect it and say you have included this because it you know intellectually and stuff like that will give each other positive criticism like we we. We building each other. You know yeah so and you speak to the people who are listening who maybe would want to join the to find out about it okay. We have a page on the on the on the facebook things you know so they can hit us up there. You our just spit. They can find us. They will find. The profile. Picture is a microphone. That is Ingrid. Spitting weds there. Yeah but to let people know because of logistical. Meta's is going to change from you. Our just spit to speak child. Wanted Change and it did this. The the name speak child is much more eleven. Don't feel like it throws off people who have been growing with you. No no no no we. We had a conglomeration of Jewish conglomeration elderly work with the team. And then we sit down and we spoke about it in this like. It's it's it's it's it's sounds pro patriotic. You know You know ED gun again. I was the what do they say? change is could And you know we need to grow with the times and and simplify the metro. Yeah because a lot of people are like. Oh that's a mouthful you our to spit and we believe it is quite you know what I mean so I said let's wrestlers simplify. The medicine. See speak child because like it's a movement for the Youth F we as a platform for high school or you're looking at every everyone goes. I have like a seventeen year old that I'm grooming right now. I think to if I'm not mistaken. Yeah Kookaburra loon matter. Matter matter. Matter matter is actually in-studio we have another one of our esther logic. Cowles the exciting in love with the city and clear is one of us and Pisces guys. Talking right yeah. I'm on the Twenty Third Little Sundays. Yeah the thing is what I wanted to do. As I'm having a show on the twenty second of March the launch of my new body of work titled Two Menu so the plan was to release this as my own busy presenter not busy and then to affect logistics and. Meta's not coming together so I had to push it too much. You get what I mean so on the twenty third of February the Union Building from twelve until five am welcoming all kinds of artists to come and jam and then make the busy. Things happen for a gentleman video. He's age. I zero you too. And we're trying to figure it out what's happening and you've got a whole host six year old men sitting in your house columns going get a job. Young beautiful point is how not to be a scary man. Men are very scary especially South African main dish. Yeah doing to ensure that he has good principles and values and it doesn't go down. The Path Window said eligible. South Africa is that Patrick plays a huge role in white men developed to be in this day and age. You See It's it's a sad reality way. Men Are taught to be strong and to be dominating and everything and anything in like the the easily they are easily dedicated to dominate females especially UC where the ad supplement. Andy told that they have ownership over over females which is not the case So what I do with my son. I teach him to be intrusion with his emotions and feelings. You get hurt. I mean and tell him all the time is eight. You know what when something is bugging you come sit down with me and tell me what is what is begging you. Even if it's the most smallest things you know what I mean. 'cause is the most smallest things that That did that they'd become big. You know these. These approve these appropriate that says evil enters through the whole of a needle in spread. It spread like an oak tree. You see so if you don't stop something from win it's small. It is going to become big and right now in society men dealing with things that they don't want to deal with they deal with them in certain avenues in ways of being angry being violent doing. That's why these such cases of rape these women being killed and stuff like that you get I mean so I try bone means to instill such values in my son and say the trouble if this is not sitting well with you no matter. What whether talk three the you know you know like I don't WanNa please come with you or something like that or one or communist collected or you WANNA play soccer. But I don't have time. Please tell me and then you know 'cause there was a time way he wanted. There was something you wanted to drew. And like our chauvel and by emotions myself nate and I was going through the West on the day and like we hit a crane session me and him and like immediately. When we didn't done with the conversation he was like deadliest. Shafts ACACIA new into guy get a Like frozen lollies and staff deal was like right shop. You know but the main thing is to talk about things deal with things get it out. We need to talk men out there. If you if you hitting this we need to even when we get together as men. We are taught to bottle things up. You know we are like a walking Pandora's box if some if one thing if it opens up just slightly it is over you know so we need to deal with things guys chance okay. We're about to wrap up. We have a surprise faquir like he's just going to throw him excited but clearly. That's not what we can find you where you're going to be a show about just like touch us up. Okay okay. Social Media Matters. You can find me on facebook page. It's clear you'll you'll see this rather with the yellow boonies video actually within with an Afro. Watch McCall. Twitter is soaked here. T- and then Instagram Kearse by underscores with small caps. And then and yeah you follow me. And then you'll get to hear what is wide because I'm GONNA be doing a lot of things guys Claude. Also soundcloud guys. Yeah soundcloud Yeah you can. I don't know what the OH I don't find it on his pages. Yeah you can go to soundcloud and then just type out clear. 'cause I have a single that have released little for the poem about my son. Beautiful mistitled my joy in barricades. Little what is your favorite line from the poem F- okay. This is his home. His home for me Nepalese. The day. I figured out that I was labeled a useless father. Figure was when my pockets with seen a shallow is the puddles that exist on the surface of Assad. I'm not going to come in. This is my life. That is my lane so you can go to soundcloud just about here. My Joy in brackets taboo. And then you'll find it. They in a in a dishonest too so we spoke about humans being even if he lost on the twenty second of March is going to be about three That's in Pretoria. He has failed. 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Sharing Our Story with Structure & Safety

The Sacred Womb - Use your menstrual cycle as a natural compass encoded within the body.

25:15 min | 11 months ago

Sharing Our Story with Structure & Safety

"Oh welcome to the sacred room podcast. Womb centered wisdom for the arc of womanhood with your host. Melanie Swat hello. And Welcome. Back to the Sacred William podcast. How you doing today? How is the new podcast landed with you? I hope you're enjoying that new intro jingle at lots of fun choose in that same. I think it helps warms off. I think it's fun. I think it's Inspiring say I listened to it before I start this podcast. Thank you know gets me in the zone. So what have we got today? We have Brit Frank on sharing our story with structure and safety cyber is based in in Kansas in the states and she's certified in somatic experiencing and is a level. One internal family systems trained cyber. It's often featured actually as a mental health expert for podcasts. In print and broadcast media on prints mission is to empower people to understand the inner workings of their minds and brains so that the change process moves from mystery to mastery. She's a teacher speaker and trauma therapist. And she's actually a Woodward in a professor at the University of Kansas so separate gives us loads of essential juicy information because as women we we join groups wherein friendships and this I feel is something. That's really core to our empowerment but is is not necessarily talked about so without further ado here is Brit Frank with sharing our story with structure and safety. Hey welcome to the podcast. Hi thank you so much for having me. Thank you so much for doing this so Brit. I've been following you on Instagram for ages and I just love the clarity and precision of your work and in your posts. You always put the here. It is his what's happening and then you put. What do we do instead? What's the antidote? What is the alternative? Which I absolutely love and so I contacted you because I saw one of your posts and was really really drawn to the theme of it so I really wanted to discuss that with you today. Separate quite you. Whilst you're so that everyone knows what we're talking about so your post post-set telling a traumatic story in chronological order. Can intensify the trauma that the telling of the story is supposed to help heal and I really wanted to talk to you about the details of this because in women's circles Sharon stories is welcome is promoted and often space to share. Just whatever you want and this can be always but can be really triggering and difficult with no structure no guidance. So can you tell us why telling a traumatic story in chronological order can intensify the trauma? Where I learned this? It was so mind blowing. I think intuitively. We know that there's a point at which telling a story doesn't doesn't work at best and retraumatize is that worth. I mean I tell people all the time if all you needed to do to heal was to tell your story you'd feel better after telling it and yet many of us myself included have noticed that we tell our trauma stories over and over and over and over again and we don't feel any better and it's a delicate balance because telling a story in the presence of a safe empathic. Witness is good medicine but like we were chatting about before the recording like any medicine. You can overdose. If you take too much of it you can do damage if you take it improperly and sometimes it's not the right medicine for the job so insured telling a story from start finish can often put our brain exactly back in that traumatic space and rather than healing were actually deepening. The neural groove that was formed by the trauma and so for women circles because whole telling stories in holding space is so vital and so important. We WanNa do it skillfully and safely okay. So you talked about intensifying. The groove in the brain is that one of the things. The happens when we're talking about a trauma story particularly in chronological order. It can and this is not how this always preface. This is not an always every time for every person. If telling your story makes you feel better lighter great so this this message visit necessarily for you in that moment but often I see women and I know women and I am a woman who does this and I tell my story over and over again and it becomes a rumination. The word ruminate comes from cows chewing. And we shoe and we chew chew on the story and it doesn't go anywhere it gets sludgy and it. Sorta just exists so when I have a client. That's telling the TRAUMA NARRATIVE. I always have them skip around. And this is something they teach in somatic experiencing our somatic or body bay psychotherapy You skip around so you may start at the beginning and then you jump to later in the story and then you go back to the beginning and then you go back to the ends and a really great question for if you're holding space for someone story is one. Did you know it was over or when did you know you felt safe because what people are naked with all my God? What happened next. And you'll never guess what happened next and we we stare at the car wreck on the side of the road. And we freeze in the face of fire. Chaos what we need to actually say is when when was it over? Oh Wow that sounds terrible. How did you know that you were saying? When did you come out of that? Who helped you out of that? And that is not a question that we are taught to ask. We're taught to go. Oh my gosh. Let's make it bigger fan. The flames of this story sharing a story is intended to take the flames and put them out. And by intensifying and fanning the flame. We make it worse versus asking fire. Hosie questions like Oh my gosh. That's amazing that you survived out. What qualities about yourself enabled you to survive that. That's a beautiful question to be able to ask someone if you're holding space for a while. I can imagine that stops the narrative. You're straight away and then switches the focus into. Oh some something else. Wow I've I've got some resources rather than being stuck in. Oh my God I was there and I still feel that exactly it. Actually ships your brain activity from the reactive. Sort of survival fights light physiology into more of our neo. Cortex are thinking brain and exactly like you said. It's really amazing. So for anyone listening to this. Here's your experiment. When someone's telling you anything from you know they had a a a car accident or they had a terrible travel or whatever. Ask Them Wow. When did you know you felt safe? They will freeze. They will stop in their tracks their their face will till tomorrow ha ha and then you'll see them actually breathe. You'll see breath go because that kind of question actually ships us into more of a pair of sympathetic orientation and you'll see them tilt their head you'll see them go. How annual see them breathe. It's wild and it works raising testing. I'm going to put that in big bold letters in the show notes so that we can all remember it and try it out another aspect to this is as women are conditioning is to be polite enabling we WANNA listen to each other which is wonderful but having these simple phrases tools like you've just shared with us to enables to us to stay present and be respectful and also say no this is not fruitful can really shift our relationships dramatically and it helps make it safe but you know prevent resentment because we've all been on the receiving end of someone vomiting their story and we wanna be polite and yet at the end of it. We feel resentful frustrated. I saw a meam online. That was you know. I wish that conversations were like Youtube where you can see the time bar to see how long they're going to keep talking for so you know when it's going to be over. If behold invasive to have somebody vomit on you and that said we WANNA be able to hold so when I do When people come into my office for therapy and their brand new I always preface the session with. I'd just want to let you know right now. Part of trauma healing will involve me interrupting you. Allot and that's not because I'm being rude. And it's not because I- devalue or minimize your experience but if I see you going on a tangent where your brain has locked in to a narrative and you're no longer here. I am going to interrupt you so and people get so frustrated like no. Let me tell the story I wanNA tell my and I know you WanNa tell the story I know and you're going to get to all of it but it's like eating. You have to chew and swallow in small bites. If I try to shove a giant piece of food down my throat I will choke and it will be bad. So storytelling and holding. Space for stories needs to involve small digestible bites. Which you cannot do if you're just going without stopping into principal. Object in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force so as above so below. That's an important principle telling a story just letting it go and go and go is not helpful and it's not safe nor is it useful. Medicine me in terms of healing. Yep just both parties if you want to just end up feeling anyway. Yeah we've been the on both sides of so anyway. I know when your post you listed one of the things that can happen when we share in a trauma story is that we can dissociate. Could you say a little bit more about that? Sure and there's a phenomenon called euphoric recall and a phenomenon called traumatic recall and dissociation. I'll also preface is not that dissociation gets such a bad rap in the mental health world. Dissociation is a tool that our brains us when there are no other options so when we're checking out of our bodies no longer presence that's not always bad it only becomes bad when we're out of control and when we want to be president but we're being taken out so that's my little dissociation disclaimer. Okay SO EUPHORIC. Recall that thing. That happens if I said to you. Tell me about the most wonderful time in your life where everything felt right. And he felt great. You're GONNA smile and your body's going to get a war because your brain will actually put you back in that experience. That is euphoric recall. That's great that's why meditation is so powerful because we can actually induce body states based on what we're thinking about you. Four agree call is wonderful except when we're recalling something that's not good. That wasn't helpful. That wasn't safe and then we go into traumatic recall where the same principle that allows us to feel all fuzzy warm. Thinking about whatever is going to cause us to re-experience are trauma. And again that sort of reinforces the very narrative. Were trying to heal by sharing our story so check is. I've got if I've got this right. So it's what you're saying is whenever we talk in about something that's happened to us. We start to re-experience the feelings associated with it on if it's trauma we experienced the trauma. Yes unless it's being done skillfully you can tell a story without and that's what trauma therapy is. And that's what women circles effort to do is to hold space for a story that is in a healing way versus a re traumatizing way. Okay Okay and if I'm just blowing it whether it's euphoric or traumatic and obviously if it's traumatic is not all helpful to put myself back there. I don't want to re-experience it again. So it's like you survive the first time you don't have to keep reliving it. Oh and a flashback is is really that it's when were back in the thing and you had to do it once but we don't actually have to keep experiencing over and over again and Peop- you can't control flashback. Flashbacks just happened until they healed. But you can control how you tell a story and how you hold space for someone else's story in a way that does not create traumatic recall which is wonderful news for Tustin fantastic so just really clarify what you're saying and checking. I got it so everyone else could get it as well because it's so juicy. So when we telling a story we're experiencing emotions on nervous system. Thinks it's happening again and sounds like one of our coping. Mechanisms is to actually dissociate whilst telling the story and that keeps says from being overwhelmed again so basically if with a friend that's telling the story and they're in trauma we can ask them. Hey when did you realize it was over? Fat will help bring them out of it absolutely again just to go back to what you were saying. Dissociation is bad. But we've all told our store. A lot of people can tell a trauma narrative without feeling anything they can come into a group and share share share. But they're they're not they're they're not in body so they're sharing is from associated place which is not helpful so before someone shares a story with you or before you share your story with someone else. It's really helpful to set the structure. So Hey we're going to do so whenever I do groups it's okay we're GONNA hold space for each other but I want at the structure that we're going to interrupt with questions intended to help promote the healing aspect of the storytelling and so that way. The person doesn't feel no one likes being interrupted. It doesn't feel good so if you don't know that that's going to be a thing you're going to get busy and go on and cry there but if you know on a front end this is how we structured this conversation than they can give consent and then when it happens. They know what's going on. I guess may still feel interested. That's the deal and we've already agreed it. That's right so that's far enough traffic and we want to interrupt. That's the whole point. It's we want to interrupt the trauma narrative and so the way to interrupted is interrupted is to actually interrupt the leap of it. Exactly okay. Then so we've we set up the deal. Where in a group report with a friend? What about if we're the one the looping around and we listen to this thinking oh I think might be me? I think I might tell my trauma stories in chronological order and we've established that it's not really helping. So can you talk about Easter? A tool that we can use to click back into a healthy way of relating. So the first thing is if this is you know. Shame if you're listening going. Oh No. I'm the over share. I'm the vomit or I'm doing this to myself into my brands. It's okay you know what we only know what we know and when we know more we can do more. We know better. We can do better so I really. I do not deal in shame so really the first step in healing anything is bringing it to conscious awareness. So if you're all of a sudden getting hit with this is congratulations. That's great now. You know it's another we know a thing and it's in the light we can do something about it says step one so once you recognize that you are an over sharer then when you're going into a circle or a one on one or whatever let the person know. Hey Jesse know over sharer so feel free to interrupt me and that's wonderful because now not only are you being interrupted but you are actually instigating this as a healing tool which is going to feel empowering. It's I want you to hold space for the story and I'm going to request that you interrupt me if you see me spiraling now. You may not have the most skillful listener so they might not know how to do that. But you can certainly make that request and if they know this is how to best support you people. WanNa to know how. How do you want me to hold space for? You is a wonderful question you know. I'm a therapist. I'm also just a person so when my friends share with me they don't necessarily want a clinical answer so I always start with. How would you like me to hold space for what you're sharing you want by like therapists? The answer do you want my like witchy? Woo Lancer do want my. I'm just listening to you. Cut like what do you need from the share? And then that's wonderful to know how to express our needs and then as the friend how to support efficiently and effectively a to do that to. Do you want the therapies? To what the Which? Just shut up. Because I need to know exactly. We're GONNA know right totally socially because sometimes we do just to talk to a friend we just need to say. Aw God Blimey Blah Blah but if we know the deal and we certain isolated safe-space up then we can go from. Yes I actually have. This is true in twelve step recovery circles in meetings that are run well and I have clients. That are really good at this tube. Once they know this principle is if you do need to vomit and you need to unload which is valid. Sometimes that's good medicine number. One set a timeline and a time limit. So I'll have clients say okay. I need to ran but police at your timer for seven minutes so once that time is up it's up and I'm not just going off into the ether. That's a wonderful tool so if I have friends that WANNA vomit. Let's at a time limit on your vomiting. So it's fruitful intentional and productive fantastic. What an awesome tool and time make people feel safe so I know for me? The reason I don't join a lot of groups or women sacred circles is could. I feel profoundly unsafe. When there's just this unstructured sharing vom if feels so gross to me and it feels so icky and so like I have a visceral reaction to it if you tell me that. We're going to come on. The structure is no one gets to share for more than ten minutes. And we're going to keep that as a sacred trust as sacred contract. I'm an signed me up. Yup with the that's why I don't join any of them either because I want to sit. I don't WanNa feel hijacked. I don't want to just walk either. So Yep totally understand. We say right and if you're dissociated you're not connecting so the point of sharing a story is to connect you have to be embodied in order to be able to connect and going off on a story tangent doesn't do that doesn't allow physiologically for that to happen. That's why those little bite sized pieces are so crucial unloved. That ten minute time limit as well if you've if you've got ten minutes to share if I go circle got ten minutes. That focus is the brain. I think got ten minutes so what is really important now rather than just sort of mea the reading around so yeah wonderful time limits. Could you explain and expand on why if we are in circle and we are listening to a trauma story? Why sometimes it might actually trigger around trauma. If we're listening. Yeah absolutely and again I like you. Emo Is a what do we do about it? And so we're not sitting in the problem if you're thinking of joining a group the best question to ask the group leader is what's the structure of the group. And if they don't have an answer move on and if they have an answer that you can ask yourself. Is this something that I can be on board with. So that's my preface. Now it's answer your question if someone is sharing a story there is your story if someone is sharing about surviving childhood. Whatever and you survived. Same childhood whatever. Your entire body is going to respond with that traumatic recall because they're sharing your story and so because of the whole you know resonance thing and mirror neurons and just the capacity for connection that we have is empathic. Humans Ruin. Go back there too. And as a therapist and healers and practitioners. That's the thing that I know you and I. We have to learn how to hold space without going into that because a lot of our clients share are very trauma stories. Not that it's the same experience you and I can experience the same event differently but if you had a thing happened to you that I had happened to me. It's important that we are not going down the rabbit hole together absolutely okay. Great what. You'd cool secondary tour. Yes yes now again. I guess if if a group facilitator is holding space for a participant and then there's a witness the witness would be more of a tertiary trauma so primary secondary Either way if you're in the presence of trauma or someone sharing trauma there's the ability for you to also be traumatized which I guess is pretty likely with women come to coming together in a group to connect and he'll but what I'm hearing you say is if we've got the structure if we got a safe space a up and then we've got an order to this end biegel worker shadows so if someone is sharing and they're receiving compassion attention empathy and you did not receive as a child. All of your shadow stuff's GonNa come up and you're GONNA get really angry and frustrated Hate her this group stinks. And I don't like this person and this you don't know what they're doing and did it. And that's okay but it's important to know that and as facilitators healers in practitioners to let people know that's a thing and heads up. This could happen. And here's what it's called it's called projection and this is called shadow content. And you're not crazy in. Here's how we work with it safely absolutely the so much to a group and being in a group it's just all experiences is all encompassing experience in in the so. Yeah so really important. We have an awareness of this how to choose agreed part of being agree pin in a in a way. That's actually healing really enjoying this compensation bread. I I could I could talk to you for hours But we will time limit this because it's been it's been so packed new. You can such great information so I think we can wrap the so. No these are all just points to for deeper exploration. None of this has meant to be a deep dive. This is just. Let's put pins on the map. So you know places that you have the ability to go if it's relevant for you fun tastic. Thank you so I do want to share your website. So people can find you and very importantly. What is your instagram account? What's your scrim handle so the people can follow you for Mora Nuggets of wisdom? Oh I appreciate that by handle is at Brit Frank and it's B. R. I T. T. F. R. K. And then my website is. Www dot the greenhouse casey dot com so the greenhouse than Casey Dot Com. Oh what's that stunned food greenhouse Casey Casey's Kansas City which is where I live and the greenhouse is what I have named my practice because a greenhouse is a structured environment where every condition is maintained for growth and repair of plants and the therapy is pretty much. The same thing is. Let's turn the heat up in this room and create conditions for growth repair and change. Oh I love your prayed fantastic so you were want one with groups. What's what's lighting you fire right now. Brit it's so funny. Group work really is my my heart and my passion and I moved away from the last few years so right now my practice focuses just on one on one. I don't do couples. I don't work. I know my skill set. I stayed in my lane. I don't to voted couples. There's too many nervous systems in their rooms in many children. Running around doesn't work so right now. I do one on one but I'm re because of my licensure. I can't practice outside the state of Kansas or Missouri. So I'm looking to move into groups where I have a little bit more freedom flexibility to bring in people from all around the world. I love group work. I think it is so powerful and so beautiful when it's done safely. Aw isn't it. And so so powerful you got the amplified field of the group and just yet huge potential then. Wow Wow and wow thank you Britt. Thank you so much for that. Thank you so much for your work fare instagram. And for coming on the PODCAST. Thank you so much A.

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Full Spectrum Cycling #51  Milwaukee by Bike  a Slab of Beef and Friday the 13th

Fat-bike Radio

33:47 min | 1 year ago

Full Spectrum Cycling #51 Milwaukee by Bike a Slab of Beef and Friday the 13th

"Good evening good. Ladies and Gentlemen Who Devi to play House full spectrum cycling number fifty one for us it's March thirteenth. Doesn't it fried? Yes it is war or you find full and you got back from the SHELLAC show. Great Show freaking awesome. Sure I can't believe it so this makes me feel like I have gone to the show even though I haven't bought the ticket for the show yet That the show is in in the past tomorrow. Exactly it guess. We're really going to play with this time. Line Ladies and gentlemen. Welcome the timeline. Well weather's better for cycling around here. When down wind has died down and it was pretty pretty brisk middle last week free holies even if it was nice out it can knock a good ten. It can be nice to have that electric bike. They're all up and ready to go into that. Twenty five mile an hour headwinds. That would be fun to test in your twenty-five manner. We'll do that now. It's getting. It's time to test it because it's it's actually up and running because if you didn't know that people we built the first size electric that we're going to be getting it's it's it's it's pretty close. I think we might change the front. The motor but boys that thing. It's torture work. Maybe just a little overkill ask. Whoa it is the crystal eights. H whatever thirty five series. Something something if you people are electric bike folks. It's a with a fifty two battery. It's a demon than a half. Yeah I think it's fun but I I don't. I don't think I'd gas that thing in turn on a on a gravel road. Well you could but you probably GonNa fall tested it last night after getting everything but together in. Whoa WHOA my eyes. Were watering and I was foolish enough to not be wearing a helmet or any lights. 'cause we finished it after dark and you couldn't get on it and throw this rattle down. It's just I think it's like a mandatory. Just a packet right away. It was. I got her on the corner and I threw the throttle straight down. I'm like Oh my God. I'm going very fast very quickly. It is scary. I don't think I had the pedal assist numbers figured out yet so we weren't getting a ton of paddle assist but while you can really gun it on that baby. Now it's time to choose some range Tustin and Santa. We're going to be got the setup right and whatnot having some fun. You don't get one of those things for your fat bike to. If you really want one I make that for just about anything. So we did. We did a pre ride kind of course ride for the Milwaukee by bike tour and rental. That's being put together by Mr Zito and his friend Derek lead. No you have to lead lead with the downside of it excites any of you listening. You listener Mister Zito should be on the show next week to talk about this venture basically. It's a bike bike rental and tours of Milwaukee on fixations what it was at an east side East side. Need Your Nice looking bikes for a single speed. There they gotta drilled Matt Finish with upgraded pedals always GONNA did. A tour of the Lakefront looked at some historic spots. It's going to be an interesting thing for folks coming in for about a town. I think just in time even for people that are in town and don't know their own damn now maybe they never wrote it on a bike I got to say here. I got a new thing. 'cause that sound slap that thing down what is that thing we normally have jerky but Tony went by heads. And I don't know what you call this thing. It's a big ass slab of beef. You can walk in and order. Uncut Jerky is what they call it. Larry why the pound? It's like unshaven her. It's like a big slab of dried meat. Here's the thing instead of chewing it like Jerky and swallowing it. Just stick to pinch train your cheek. Let sit back in there. You get like an hour's worth refreshing Kevin Mouth it's delicious. It's very and take a picture that nothing is as a quarter pound slab. Thank you to bill backes. The drummer for Tester Rosa for turning US onto said beef slab last week. He's like he's got the best beef jerky and I'm like. Oh and he starts in Greg. Newbold like he's talking about. Hells like you know you can buy slab ordeal like I did not know that. But I'm going there Saturday and I will. That's awesome Jake for the for the picture show. Could you hold this up here and the note so the first couple of bites I just Kinda chewed and swallowed? But letting it led to marinate in your mouth. That's a good thing it it is. It's you know I it's a fine tasty slab of meat. Smell hardy reality to smoke dried peppery. Meet Iraq and you'd take that on the old Chisholm trail back in the old days they do that or I could see it on the oak leaf trail for going camping. Probably that'd be a good thing to do now. It's getting a little nicer out. There was underwater partially up. North of here. I Guess Yeah I saw Pixel phone though. That was okay. I didn't pay total. A to ascertain the location of the picture. I remember seeing that. Was It north North ally? Del Yeah somewhere up there. There was north North Hampton. Read something like that. I believe we've talked folks. That's Milwaukee Milwaukee bike trail. It's you should come to realize that trails. You can ride it all damn place you always door county dork county dork or Darko door coat. Legis followed the right way in Grafton Joe. Yeah don't miss that Turner you missed I. Eight one eight miles out of my way to move hanging out in an industrial park. County road big. Oh my God. You're going like sixty no this not what I want. Go back the other way right away. So that Dangle Gerona viruses hitting the cycling industry it's in everything Seattle cancelled or rescheduled until October by South West has cancelled national bike. Summit can't bike summit true that they're trying to figure out how to May Day they the the people the big people who are drawing a mental blank on right now it labeled a pandemic. Cdc W. H. O. W. H. O. Who labelled today Pan also surpassed the n one h one bird flu in? What respect killing more people and spread faster still isn't kills may people's a flu though. I mean more people out every year. We'll see but sorta seems like this one's getting quite the Abbot China's declined now. So it's it's run. Its course quickly. Maybe that's what they're saying. Well yeah good point receivers. You know we don't know how many are in the United States because nobody contested it. Let's see it took found that towards the end of the mid to end of January was when it came to light so died putting into perspective. Another month of mayhem any probably any bike race in Italy shutdown Jack. It'll yeah well you know you. Wmd's like stopping. I'm sure other universities are stopping in person classes after the spring break. But let's think about this if I was a youngster and wasn't really overly concerned because I'm of good health etc cheap airfares everywhere right now. I heard that there were eight people on a plane this morning when when some dude was talking about being on a flight test. Washington who eight total I mean. How can sprawl up baby? Just bring your white beefing and wipe off your arm. You know so you know. Yeah the UW system. My daughter goes to Lacrosse and so- spring break is next week and they're going to extend it another week and then they're going to have following that two weeks of online classes which is weird. Because she's in theater. And how do you build a sadder make a costumer direct is virtually virtually? I'm GONNA virtually so on my computer. Do you have one of those Got Dangled Singer Ninety five Three D. Google's lawnmower man and he's got a new iphone. We could check out the AI on that. Maybe you could Don't talk about math. Phone got off owner. Do you have a golf game on their phone. Real phone Schmeel real. I'm Sony phone to phone and having stuck with this Tony Setup to go. He said up to go work from home as long as necessary I guess here. I'm completely at Tire Company. They did this to until the entire company at the SHOP GETS SICK. The shop remained open. That's us it would be us. I guess if I get sick you could come in and if I get sick well too bad. No I ate is There is a whole lot. I went to woman's to go grocery shopping on Saturday. Because we were coming back from Oshkosh people were pushing three grocery carts a one full of toilet paper one full of water and one full of quote unquote other. I'm like are you kidding me? The place looked like a disaster area. I mean they had like stacks of toilet paper four rows into the aisle. So people admire my mic. I just you guys. How much shitting are you going to do in your month in your to eighteen days of of having this? Yeah have you only have it but you only have it for a couple of days. You don't have it for four. All right that's good for a year. Then so are. They paid artificially flavored prices for toilet. I think it's just a money. Grab from some of these companies. This could be a thousand dollars a sheet to tell you I use twenty eight sheets Perboye. Oh Funny Oh it's going to be good. I tell you what I think this Beef Jerky great imitation. That's like that's like a virus reduction device right there. We'll live on beef jerky man other Jerky but I prefer beef. I like the idea of doing a northerly up to Harrington beach camping ride and stopping at Bernie's on the way and I would love grab it rabbit and go for the record. Were digressing slightly. But if you're ever in Colorado and you're driving through the mountains and you see a guy on the side of the road selling Jerky you can have a little sign up the roads jerky ahead. Stop the guys. Get some pretty wicked jerky. We've heard this story before. Have we honestly just the guy's name yet? Well there's like fifty of them. Oh okay five hundred of them. But I've probably started fifty vice. So they all do it in the mountains there and it's incredible elk ostrich Bison Salmon to their free range ostrich there in Colorado. I hope so some shit. Let's go next thirties. Another invasive species. Well nothing hunts ostrich except humint the most dangerous game south downhill from here on that ostrich thing. I need to run downhill to check. You can heat running. Look at the Pentagon went and grabbed the UH today. This is incredible. It is tasty. What is it short? Spruce shorts shorts Hama Hama loopless India. Pale Ale see complex hop and malt from the hop plant huge tastes the Malton their humor a complex hop and malt theme park in your mouth theme park in your mouth. A Maltese comes through it. Does it's multi seven point seven. Their alcohol flagship their flagship Shorts flagship From elk where carber elk river elk rapids elk rapids Michigan. Not exactly sure where that is. Cross the big pond there somewhere gonna fly. It looks like a dinosaur to beef. What's your finger? I got my finger today with a border wars going on there with a staple deadly this is a packaging error not work on bike air or Jerky. I managed to get a lot of biking pushing done today. Hey Shadow to Let's change subjects minute after. I've had some Jerky I'm going to Have some photos of the new version of the old man mountain rack that I put through on the Chamba? Ursa major titanium good and tell you what the best thing about it is the Robert. Axel project bought it and they use the rear axle as the mounting point on the lower part of the rack pushes it way back especially since the paragon sliders and the normal rack. Mount is like four inches further forward. While that's cool I mean it's back where Iraq ought to be right now as beautiful. I tell you what almost really bars on that rack. And just wheelies like Sam. Yeah that would be an idea. Actually if you had long enough extenders you could just drag the rack on the ground. But it's nice racking laundry put some wheels on the back of the wreck. Yeah well listen photos of that. Were get a we get a first look up on the website and got front rack to go on there too. So Oh look at you check better. Oh look fat. Little mini is making little bite. Sized shops baked Turkey out. That's why God gave human incisors their son here people eating Gherkins like that trunk. I do like it back in a I like goodfellas and a slice slice that garlic cloves just so who cross your finger man. I'd be very afraid. So speaking of those Chamba Ursa major titanium fep might might notice a empty spot up there on the wall. Would another word left the door? Did it for folks show special sixteen eighty for one small one medium and two extra large as our left on the wall mentioned? And that's the last of the bunch. Mike Mike Mike and Berta feeble Mike. He's been Jones in for something like this for five years so good for him. You went to the hand built bike show in Charlotte like five years ago which I was ironically at and didn't know I don't think I knew he was there and I'm not even sure I really knew him at the time. So I was just kind of mope about taking photos for the old fat like that calm and Didn't didn't run into them there but apparently he thought I think he probably saw Ericsson's or somebody's because that was about the time those guys were really showing their fat by cough. You will branding them and friends. He will quite brightly. Ride the shit out of there but yeah he's GonNa set it up single speed. He of course he is. He's Shane. Yep single speed. Hope Hubs Thompson stuff. Chris King race face. Crank pretty much standard goodness on A. If you're going tie go all out pay me. It's up. It's all good so as ever need yeah. Exactly it's totally rebuildable. It'll last you forever. I couldn't quite get him to spring for the onyx racing hub. Well that seems like the best hub for single speed to me. Instant engagement silent like like like butter. Silent let's in the Pan Saute as well even better than where to go. Yup got that dangled new role bike. Put together over there. I decided I should have won the role around the city and take some photos. That is a beautiful bike. If people don't know role you should check out roll bicycles road. Bicycles DOT COM folks. They are there. It's a great idea and this one is sinisterly sexy so it's a soon to be four by chain in Ohio. But the deal is that they bring in these frames and then custom assemble them with whatever components you want from Six fifty seven hundred see different different angles of city sport adventure and they got a good network of dealers starting to pop up. They probably have thirty or forty. I Dunno check out their dealer locator but the deal is you can order it online and have shipped to your local dealer. They'll assemble it for you. Fit Fit it to you and roll out the door for the same price as pay on the website. Totally worth it young. And they're great riding bicycles. Yup Yeah I. It's a great great my bike for most people. Yeah good price point. I mean they`re. They're good bike role. Bicycles DOT COM DOT com. See that new fancy board over there with the I saw that you got like some displeased thing now tells you all bicycle coming. My idea is to have a kiosk right outside the front door with the IPAD. And it and you could just walk into the vestibule by a bike and walk out and never have to talk to a human being lake. Taco bell on the Little Kia. I paid for it. Just give me my food. It's going to be realising my dream of no bikes inside the bike store. I like that because tomorrow eggs in this bike store. Yeah there are. There's a ton of bikes right now. Well here's here's the thing. Smart people are bringing their bikes in preseason tune-ups and checkups and new accessories and whatnot. This is a great time because guess what for Seventy Degree Day. I'm gonNA tell you ain't happy but I'm GonNa tell you right now if you bring your bike in with a flask attached to it and there's something in it. I'll be right back you'll go to go to. Kinda towards the top of the pile on this. Oh uncle. Jim's bike has a flask on top of him was he having their Blanton's or something to Jim. We're drinking your whiskey right now but as well it's GONNA go bad before he ever gets to you know what's he doesn't last that long no goes great with his jerky all. Let's see as a sitting on a bottle from teens. That's new home nicer nut. Now thank you Jim thanks you. I'll have your brakes pled tomorrow. Maybe I ran out of olives for that particular break. I wish there was a universal. I would be sweet. A universal out of The the heart of the compression fitting in the brake lever there which contrary to popular belief you can't reuse no. You should never try to use. That's why it's leaking. 'cause he drives no problem. Jim We'll take care of that for you. Just keep bringing the whiskey threat a Gogo. W W four W will work for whiskey. We'll ask for whiskey. I GET UP I. Maybe that's the. I'm going to do a black version of the logo on a patch of the everyday cycles logo and I don't want it to say the same thing just thinking like underground or do you go fuck off. Or whatever www. I think that's it I could. I'M GONNA write that down so I don't forget him copyright. Tony Burger you did you. Did you hit the record button so we are recording. Probably Okay just making sure that also backup this one's working this one's working and we always have the crappy backup understood under sorry Russell. You know we'll get Russell back we need it. Yeah he's up for coming in anytime he's a good guy did I. Did I say donated helmets for Garrett's my son Boy Scout Silent Auction? No that's awesome Russell's like the you know I even though I want to punch him arm. Every time I see is is genuine. A human being as you can get through that and he knows more about bikes and all three of us in this room put together. He is any gap me the while the nutty ordered through. Qbp He also has once. I'm not a backup nut. And whatever third NUT ON CHAPMAN THAT NUT. Ouch enchiladas Russell. If you don't remember folks works are manages. Actually the dream bikes location here. Great human being stop in and see him. It's a it's a really cool place. And he's a good dude he has. He has a couple of bikes to and a motorcycle. Or Two yeah and then yeah he's got a damn hammock. Mgb or does he have td not having but it's coming there hammock season in an picture. It's like a tow show. I got back at him. No when I was in Costa Rica and I shot a few pictures of myself and Ham. Auction tells us. Toy Dad was a British car guy. Unfortunately I've told this joke. I'm sure on this before. But why did the British always drink warm Dono because they never made an electrical system works? Electric is like it's a total crapshoot. Crapshoot absolutely he was a first of all an mg guy than a Austin Healey's and then pat an Aston Martin and a couple Jaguars and they were all in the fifties sixties. They were never anything. Newer Nihar NAMER BUDDY. So he got him got him. Running made them nice and then pond him. On some of my. You know my old roommate buddy from Grade School High School. College was mg guy and he he had one. Oh you got his hands on it. Loved it for a second and then just endured for earlier low my Lord. Yeah you know his A really big mini Fan Randy Dixon up there in. Sturgeon Bay. The original mini. Yeah absolutely I mean. He does frame off full-on or whatever if he had a frame. I mean completely dipped the whole one of the only cars. You you as a single human being in. Lift the motor out of They are so small and so light the the the original Minis. I mean they were as small as I. Six fifty C C motor while literally. Like unbolt the exhaust and lifting. I remember when Mazda miatas first came out. They kind of had that same size shape if they were one point. Eight liter. Yeah. Yeah I'm just saying in the chassis and yeah and I was like yeah but just ridiculously small. A six eight person buys it. We're is why do why then you just have to bring this back to cycling. Oh yes randy has done. I think every rag Brian very close to it does he. Does he take his bike? To regular out on a mini. I don't think there's an enemy out of he may have written his bike to the. He's from Iowa city or has spent a bunch of time given that Kim had been around for many years and still does it in his brother. Scott's the guy that one Paris Brest Peres in the seventies the only American to ever win Paris Brest Paris forgo ran into him. Hope Deep Home Depot here one time in Milwaukee as like randy up. Oh Hey how's it going and I just Kinda wild right because he lives two hundred miles north of here just randomly picking up some I? Guess Yeah I don't recall the exact circumstances what's going on. Hey events this week. What's going on this week? Oh like tomorrow. You mean the traditional use of this picture tumor occasional use. Well actually occasionally tradition in Milwaukee here and it's supposed to be like thirty degrees out to yeah and a and the praise our salon as of this moment of all. The Irish are not afraid of the corner. I know I know. I know we're watching. It's going to be the corner. Virus with the twenty four pack going to have the old bottle flew the next day but Besides Milwaukee and the annual use picture today Reid. If you're in Milwaukee join us with L. Bob's big fire tower fat bike race and manesty over there Michigan Man. St Oh Michigan spearfish South Dakota now if you ever been there. What A. Great Place? The twenty-eight Below Fifty K. Race ride and or tour said near the Russia more. Yeah just a little bit north. It's basically where Sturgis area. Okay on your way to devils tower and all that good stuff now gonna hit on Hayward Wisconsin's got your leprechaun chase at the Polish fat bike. Trails on Sunday the fifteenth never get? They'll never get to be lucky charms. I I'm going to be there. Don't know not sure who's GonNa be at any of these? I'm just telling you about him. Thank you got your Us Open Fat Bike Beach Championships. A couple of weeks now. That's in Rights Ville North Carolina. If they don't cancel North Khaki okay but it's a really cool spot. I think we've talked about it before but it's on a sand spit or sandbar. It's like a nice area island off of a barrier island. I replace your set in tires chain and everything else. Oh man that's beautiful. Oh it's awesome cruncher man. The weekend you switch to an eight speed is was the bubbler bicycle fundraiser this week or is that next week next week next week. Bubbler bike need a fundraiser sponsored by track? I have no idea Shoot the thing that came that's public. Oh well somebody else knows about it. It's our local bike. Share system was something. I like bubbler. Because they're not lying all over the damn place and street and they're not GonNa Fountain somewhere. Yeah they're used but non-intrusive you've got to put them back where they belong in that keeps everything tidy nice tidy trying find wondering the DNC. Good luck with that. She started her own brief. Which is why isn't the DNC already canceled trans- we'll get there well. We already know who the nominee is. Right don't even bother voting people. It's a foregone conclusion. I voted for Coz. Don't blame me. Ny Ver- gang. Oh we're only if you don't know what that means we're all going to sell. Hey next week on the show Zito speaking of going to hell next weekend show zito warning zito warning. He'll he should be in the studio but if not he'll call in. And well. Okay can chat up that Milwaukee by bike Allah forecast the show beer. What High Lives Highlights? He's bringing them highlight furlough life. I always say don't look at me like that. You know this era. I usually prefer your water on a ride rather than sitting around the studio but speaking of beer water and run just sticking to if you need it on your rear water. Can we go back to that whole ride? We did where on the February twenty ninth where no one seemed to stop for a beer. Oh could we talked about that before but it bears repeating meetings going on a fun ride. You don't go more than seven miles ten six ten sand. Ten is really nudging if you can't find if you can't find anything and to pass to So if you stay palm the Oakley if you're heading to the north and do not vary you part from hitting the no elliot first but after that then it would be only thirsty. Fox which is is it that far from here. Okay so of course then. Libya's only three miles pass sad and there's a bunch of other stuff up ten to twelve and two. I worked with US I do. They don't really WanNa do it at whatever sixteen miles an hour whatever was going on there. Yeah that's a good on fat. That was a very good. That was actually a pretty obscene. Fate pays on the fat bike. Yeah sorry I had to pull the plug on that one but I mean for myself. Sorry for yourself. Yeah Well Yeah. I and EAT Meteo Sir. Rockabilly chilly. Billy Chile was awesome. I thought it was Sunday. Okay fundraiser for dummies. Wnyc DOT Org. Best Radio Station in America. Totally best heat got Was Lakefront which was hot over. Where like overwhelming but hot and good big difference. Yeah big difference between destroyed hot. Yeah Good harvest I think they were the fiends most fears that they always gonNA burn you. I didn't touch him but they came in second know that and he best meet was calorie veggie vegetables because it wasn't beans and barley unique. Was Dan Dan again. Weirdest chill yeah okay. I'M GONNA put beef stew out there in college chilly or put Taco meat out there. I don't know right. Yeah and that's the best unique chilliest Tacos and I think Lakefront got best display. Whatever you you you can't go wrong well. You can't go wrong because you pay for three days after but I mean oh I only. It was only one visit payment. Oh yeah so. Things are good because last year I hurt with passed out hard hard. I forgot there was episode. Only there for an hour to this year and I watched paramedics carry a guy outside. Fan Him I'm like you've gone too far Sir. You've gone you've crossed over well. Let's put it this way. This guy took a digger and it was right by the firemen and the police Chilly San Sam. So it's like well okay. Your timing Yeah Yeah that that. 'cause I was talking to Mr Young Mike Camera Mike and he's like dude. Look behind you Mike. And he started walking over there. I'm like what the hell like. Like like cheers Christ down. Now it's like no. There's just a bunch of firemen and policemen here. Yeah this is their milieu narrow right well. Because he don't actually next week so yeah we'll talk to you at that point in time.

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115: The Southern Part of Northeastern West Virginia- Way Too Broad

Way Too Broad

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115: The Southern Part of Northeastern West Virginia- Way Too Broad

"Testing testing testing testing master. Rhyming timing weiming hello way way. Too broad welcome back to a two broad show and tell program for really really ridiculously excited grownups. I'm Hannah and these micro host Erin in bed. Ed Hi Erin Hello Hannah. Hello Ben. Beautiful Face Lou. Hanna hello we're back from our laboratories we had Christmas. We had cross can travel. Ben is coming to us. Actually you both are in totally different locations. Usual Ben is in his permanent new location. Location location is boast in Massachusetts. Yeah old slash do got a new door behind them. It goes to a balcony Here's my boy. Got His latte. Ah Hauer they. They're so nice. They're so sweet. They play with each other. Now it's so nice Door will did they greet you. WARMLY IS S. They've been nice to Lucas. They're usually scared of so is it. It can just jump right into baby. Benz Baby Road Trip Tales from your Rhode should be sure what we're drinking Tales from the road nails. Okay I I'M I. I'm during gain a hop city brewing barking squirrel. Amber lager would look that Ian and I got for Christmas from his parents. Because it's from Canada. I think where they went whatever. Excuse me it's got a squirrel on it. I haven't tried it yet. It's good Nice schoon and you ready. Wow disappoint wow. I think it's out of juice. Yes it seems like. It's out of juice. That was the seltzer that was out of juice. Actually it's like busy inside. Doesn't sound like juice. Aaron Aaron what are you drinking on this week. I'll have three drinks here. That cranberry in limestone now. Now we're cutting you out of Manhattan goes Harry Lime Seltzer Seltzer. Got A cup of coffee and I got a couple of grapefruit juice and I meant to take a Pepsi today. see the cause of this acids. I have three acids when he got Ben Water Order. Great ice because it's plastic doesn't clincal plastic. It just doesn't clincal doesn't Aaron. Where are you where are you joining us from? So I'm drinking you from Lisbon Maryland. Where have joined you before? Maybe once maybe twice maybe thrice this this might be thrice. I'm in my wife's childhood bedroom. Yeah having a great relaxing Christmas week. That's that's wonderful okay. Then yeah tell us about your church Okay where were where yet he added one start in Tustin. California Teston Tustin I went to BEAVER UTAH. which was the Pearl's say Pearl I didn't I didn't see Perot I went to Denny's deducted there's a denny's in the parking lot of my super eight what are you doing. I'm just repositioning not me either. Utah was sad and I went to this pizza place for dinner and all of the the girls who are working there were in like a Carl's there were teenagers. Were like in like full length. Pioneer women dresses. I was like I was thinking like is this a uniform and then a whole family came in and like all women in the family including like the small little children that were girls were in the same like address Threats all the guys including the little boys were in jeans with a plaid button. DOWNS TUCKED IN NASDAQ. I was like Oh this. Just how every single person dresses here. It was very strange. Yeah tells you it's back in time honestly feel like it a little bit. Wow except there isn't any denny's I guess. Days existed for three thousand years so that adds up about that yeah yeah any denny. The the pioneer pioneered it exactly and then that was all Utah Oh actually. I saw like open the drawer in my hotel and pull out a map of like interesting things in beaver in there is no interest. There's things in beaver bieber fever but bieber but the did advertise like on top of it that they were raided the tastiest drinking water in the country in two thousand six taste the drinking. I was I did it. It's fine a nose water. I also learned that it was where which cassidy was from which is kind of interesting wrong? But that's basically that's interesting about and then also it's halfway between Tustin in Las Vegas or half a contestant Denver to next day. I got up really early because my gums were hurting for some reason. I don't want her and the drinking water delicious but it hurts your gums. I think it was from the elevations which I don't. That's like a thing. I read online. That it's a symptom for some people elevation sickness and I was definitely feeling the Over a mile high and I was at sea level in the morning and also whenever I get sick like a cold I got a thing right. Gums hurt a lot of trying to sleep. which I I haven't heard a lot of people get but it's like consistently every time for me so I had that waking up Sleeps like fuck it. I'll go to the twenty four hour news in the lead six in the morning right But then I like right. When I changed highways onto I seventy which could be a school across all of Utah Beers the southwest and right away super dark and I was like right away entering a mountain pass and there is a sign that was like when the slightest flashing you need to have chains? It's on your tires and I was like I do not have chains writers. The light was not flashing though so we refund but nevertheless there were signs if we like twenty feet that were like icy roads. ICY roads offer Pitch Black and guide scary mountain road and that was honestly at that. That seemed very scary until later that day journey through all of Utah which is pretty pretty was like a nice day for the most part I got into Colorado and on my way to Denver. There's this mountain famous mountain pass. Infant infamous mountain pass called avail pass That gets closed closed during the winter. Relatively often it's like on the highway on the interstate on I seventy and it gets close for bad weather. There's also a thing in Colorado called the traction in law where if its effect on certain roads than you need to have either snow tires or chains for your tires and the tires are on the fit all with their tires. Technically refined but I was really scared of dying on this road because people crash on it all the fucking time God that I was going to a change anyway but I was like three miles from the opening to the vail pass and closed and there is a sudden huge snowstorm like not like no snow at all and then like ten minutes later white out anything on stuck in like literally no one moving because the highway was closed and all the hotel focus on whatever probably a hotel booked was in Denver. And so I was like I'm not GONNA make it to Denver because even if the vail pass does open it's already sundown gonNA drive it in the fucking dark after it got closed because multiple vehicle spun out on it so I called Kylie and Kylie my savior booked me a hotel like the the next exit in this little town. Turn at a place called the Internet Shadow Jocelyn great Listen note I know Shat ever hears it. She's great she'll now I if anyone's going to like veil or anywhere near Colorado highly recommend airing in your color air near Vail for skiing highly recommend intern in as a place to stay up. What does it feel like to be like a tall man who can just like stay at some random hotel feel safe? Well a at this place. I think anyone would feel safe. Sounds like a sleep. It was actually interacting kind of a nice night. 'cause I stopped earlier expected and it was like a sleepy little mountain town at like after a fresh snowfall. Oh and this really. It was like a nice bed and breakfast with author. Knowledge had a Australian shepherd. Name Ruger Joscelyn and Ruger Jocelyn Ruger. What's it called the Google turn in M. I. N. T. U. R. N. is really nice and wasn't wasn't that expensive again like end? It was like the last room. They had available I like I would go. Oh and then fucking But okay so I was at like I was sitting next to the to the sign that told me exit for. Intern was a mile for like an hour. Because that's how slow the highway was moving and as it was like as we were waiting the snow is building up more and more and so when I get off the highway there was like completely unplowed road and it was like fifteen degrees so it was like icy and couldn't even I could hardly see where the road was and it was like this curvy little mountain country road that like the Curbs on it that like were had a posted speed limit of like twenty five miles per hour for good conditions. Silas fucking scared out of my shit dragging extremely slow. That was the scariest driving to do. So is like like like on the side of a mountain basically yeah and it was like and the drive from the highway to determine is only three miles but it felt like an eternity because I was driving so slow in the road so scary and also fucking plow in Colorado but this is the middle of snowstorm the plowed anyway but also they don't really plow in Colorado except on the horns I don't know I think they just expect everyone has four wheel drive or something. I don't know Ah Snow Tires. I've yet so and then when I got fed. Yeah Yeah when I got there there is a I couldn't find. I couldn't see the the parking lot behind the hotel and I didn't know that so I drove into a snowdrift in the front and it was like this later Jocelyn. Dillon helped me helped me a shovel. It out actually no way. She didn't even. It was like the neighbor. I was like sitting at the table in the lobby of the hotel waiting for the Ready for Seco- Jocelyn gave me an. I saw like David from next door shoveling my car out and I was like Oh my God. That's not what we yeah it was it was it was really when we When I was trying to get the car to move back to the parking lot we needed like a push and the rich like these random skiers combined they're like need some help and then pushed out it was? It was great flaka cross country. Skiers know people who are coming back from a day asking locals Walking back wow sounds nice. Driving part overall breakfast the next day. Oh it's really good at the places. The Band learned that it was very comfy. I had a fireplace in the room asked fireplace. That could just flip the switch. I learned the next morning during breakfast. That the it's owned by the Italian in guy who is a former royal championship level Italian skier from like northeastern Italy. And they they apparently sister lodge in Italy Italy and he also owns an Italian grocery store so they had like a bunch of pastries that imported from Italy and other other delicious stuff Breakfast is really good. There's like a lemon Italian cake or something as it was great. And that was that was from I got up seven thirty and left there by eight to go to the nearest nearest Walmart to get changed from retires for the Vail Pass because I was scared cat. Oh by the way this that name like the veil pads ask. It sounds scary right. I don't like that name I feel like I feel like that's like a dominion card curses. All of your the other play offs. Also by the way the plan originally was to meet Lucas in Denver. He was gonNA get a really early flight from Gillette Wyoming where he lives. Let's to Denver. That was gonNA arrive at like seven thirty in the morning the motel et booked was like right by the Denver Airport as a pick them up when we were GONNA go but as I'm like working on getting changed my tires. He's text me that his flight has been delayed because one of the engines won't start and they only have one planet that airport and they had like a local mechanic but then if that didn't work they're GONNA drive up from Denver And I was like well. I'm still working on getting through Vail Pass so you have plenty of time so don't worry about it I'd you can't the listener can't see this but my eyes are like sir. If the local mechanic can't get the airplanes engines like erode if he ran so I got the chains is on which are surprisingly is put on and I was like and then he got the chance on the tire and I got on the highway and and almost immediately it was like wow. This road is very clear. Do not change and you by by the way the thing ought chances you can't have them Can't drive more than like twenty miles per hour when you have Amman and also you can't. You're not supposed to drive. Unlike good roads with them really only driving snow and ice. So it's really knowing when to put them on and I was like okay. I'm going to take these off because I do not need them right now and I'm GonNa destroy my tires the rotor both so I took like them off and then as I got a little farther down the road I hit like this very snowy. Patch House okay. Now if it the part where the rest is going to be snowing at needs. What my chains on and so I holdover onto one of the areas where other people standing up to and fucking put chains on and starting to go in and then like almost instantly? The road cleared up again. That was like God damn it. My hands are so cold because I'm not good enough of this to do with gloves on subdue even bare hands on my knuckles are still fucking crack from the dry mountain area now to the day. Yeah I have been. It's actually got a little better but it is so bad so cold but anyway I took the chains off again and I was like you know what I'm not gonNA fucking put them back on unless they're like huge flashing signs telling me I need to because this really annoying and I'm going to stop trying to guess and and the road was like perfectly clear and I it honestly as annoying as this whole hold up was it worked out for the best because I got to drive through the mail pass us in the day which number one is a lot safer and number two did not hit the snow a huge snowstorm and also. It's very pretty when you don't have to like when you're not scared driving threat threat. It's actually a very pretty drive. The mountains of Colorado are very beautiful So got through the Vail Pass safely at this point. Lucas had decided decided that instead of taking this flight because they decided to drive the can't got from Denver which is like five hours away. I'm just GONNA fucking drive to Denver. I think about it. He has to drive. They have to drive him up then he takes the place and then he may or may be able to do that thanks back to Denver definitively take less time exactly so he was like I'm going to do. I'm going to park the car like near the Denver Airport because it's pretty cheap and then when I fly back I'll just I'll fly to denver drive by comb. The Gillette Airport fucking sucks and by the way did I mention the only airline there is united. It'd be a fucking airline that owns the one plane in Gillette of where like this is so funny because like the timing of this doubt that we were like our ETA to get to Denver was nearly the exact same way we did get there. I like we're meeting at like this parking lot near the airport and I pulled into an cultivators like yeah. I'm like five minutes away. It was crazy. Iran Day Lou. It it was great and then met. Here's a couple of funds. Oh I knew I did. I got it in like we met up with a couple of friends who live in Denver now and went to the Nice Nice Vegan restaurant called. What city city did they have any Foamy burgers sometimes Vegan restaurant throw for uh-huh no Denver Denver Vegan? They don't mean sometimes full made out. I've Oh anything we did see. See the first congratulations of the road trip. We saw the note not even highlight late though also at that place. I got a a Vegan Pastrami Sandwich the native like Satan. It was so good. I like mixing certain tho-those prounced. Yeah you've got a lovely lilt when you say Satan moves through syllables Thanh Satan Satan candidates. I don't know how I think Heathrow that like a he is like a dip thong like that. Extra syllable is a dip thong. But I like how you do it day Tom. We're saying in a ton of how do not say Satan Tan Tan songs to like. I don't fucking know I had the way you said you say tat say so anyway. We had a nice time in Denver. And then I was really I really really wanted to get out of Colorado that day so I was like let's drive and get to Kansas which borders Colorado by the way. Isn't that fucking weird. Yeah it's very strange. And so he drove to Western change that in like the eighties so we got to western Kansas Got Auto Colorado fucking finally alive alive and then Got Up early next day. And we're trying to Louisville which was like eleven seven hours away to a level reveal say ten and does a pretty doc washburn weekday of driving because it was Kansas. Although we did see like there was like the roads are pretty clear there like some snowy spots pretty much all of Kansas. Like looks like it had recently recently snowed but the Ra like multiple cars spun out on the highway like on the side of the road looking like they had crashed. Look like they had been there awhile. Like they'd been snowed on and just left. There's a lot of them. had like little orange flags on them which I guess we'll get this later kinda thing. I don't know it was very weird and Kansas in Kansas. If you spend your car out they just give you another one so a lot of people. Just leave them to spin their crowd on purpose to get one of those weird obscure laws. Like you can't have a camel in the road owed on Tuesday any if he's been out your car you'll get another one broker. Yeah her thumb expensive. That's why you we saw that. We got to St Louis and it started to snow again and it was very snowy and there is a winter storm warning in like okay. Fine will stop so we got stopped by weather again And next day we're trying to get to like northeastern a Eh West. Virginia Morgantown. I think was the timer trying to get to North Northern Central West Virginia whatever the lot directions direction southern part of northeastern district West Virginia. And we went to we stopped in Huntington then to get jolly pirate the home the macaroni to get jolly pirate doughnuts. Oh because they always rave about them. They were delicious there. They had both east end kick. DONUTS which is interesting. Vegans not just We brought them to Massachusetts and Kylie eight like one of them before they went bad but they were delicious. I really enjoyed enjoyed them a lot. We got stopped by weather again. It started snowing in the mountains. When we're like an hour we morgantown because we were kind of like there was a big winter storm that like went east west to east last week and we was that last week like we can have by now that we were basically following following like we would go to sleep and it would go like eight hours west and then we would like catch up to the next day? That's how we knew where to go. Following starts this the storm will take you home. It did hit us too. Yeah so that must have been around when you got home or a few hours before. I think it was so we got stopped again. went to we got into this like I. Don't remember the town that we were in West Virginia but It was like a Very unpopulated mountain town but they had like this giant shopping plaza that had a few restaurants in it that we looked at and Odd It reminded me of the the outlet mall in Sacramento Hannah in our hometown before it closed. When like all of the stores started shutting down and and there were like a bunch of empty storefronts? It was very sad and there was like a massive parking lot with no cars in it like at all. Only I heard a mockingbird we were there like pretty sure as mockingbird because we like it was a bird they kept making a ton of different noises. Can this is definitely Eh. Got The mockingbird those pretty cool that's cool Aaron. What's this picture you sent us? This is a picture I just just sent them a picture that molly just sent me. This is one of the Family Cats Leo sitting at the table while they're playing skip. Oh he's he's like used to be a human is always very just like joins. You whatever you're doing in watches you sort of answer. Yeah Yeah he's really Nice Nice anyway sorry sorry. Continue So the next day basically this whole time we've been trying to get back on track by doing a twelve hour day in the nine hour days the rest of the trip and we'd only managed nine hour days Kept getting stopped by traffic or a UH snow. This fucking touch. Whether this fucking time we stopped in a place that was like twelve twelve hours away from our final destination and I was like well. I don't want to slip off Boston. I don't WanNa stop like three hours short four and stay the night somewhere. So we're GONNA fucking do it today and so we went to through. Pennsylvania are went through Pennsylvania in New York City through Connecticut Up North to I ninety and I was getting real tired towards that point. Were like two hours away. It's like an hour and a half Switch for the last shift the driving which was for me And so we were playing. I was picking on some of my favorite comedy bang episodes to show Mucus and also to help me stay awake by laughing. A lot at I got Several purely black iced tea also then got an iced coffee in boy. Oh boy do I not drink a lot of caffeine and not react act while to get energy but I get like very like jittery and like feels like my eyes are constantly. The back of my eyes. Feel like there'd the vibrating. It's I got home. I was like exhausted but my brain wouldn't shut off because I'd had so much caffeine so I just kind kind of late on the rug with my is vibrating. Sounds like IDA seizure. But I didn't but the other night at home and it was like twelve degrees in the park. The car kind of far away. Those whole pain in the ass thing and walked back but then got home in summit kiddies and my Kylie and it was great and now I've been home and it's been wonderful nice and Lucas was able to change slight to fly out to dinner so he was always flying back to Denver. Okay yeah like 'cause 'cause the the other thing about the Gillette airport is that they only fly to Denver. I see so so so he took to fly to Gillette. Yes he plans to cancel the The connecting flight from Denver to Gillette on the way back and got a refund. Mm for both of the flights canceled. That's good I mean they only have one planet only goes to one place yes correct fascinating getting all these travel in the future. WHO'S GONNA drive to Denver? Because it's just too much of a pain the ass to go through Gillette. I'm so glad you just barely got. Lucas is such a champ. And that's really great and we got home in time. Like 'cause I it's been saying we left on the thirteenth and I've been saying my goal was to get there by the twentieth at the latest but hopefully by Wednesday the eighteenth and even even with the delay. We ended up getting their Wednesday. The eighteenth at night doubt which is really nice and Lucas had some time to like. He went down to stay at my parents house for a day to visit with them. Call and we hit went out to breakfast with my parents on a on Saturday. 'cause they're up in Boston anyway. And we went to Trivia Trivia Friday night a try to land so he had time to see everyone before you head to head on back to his lady love for for Christmas yes Well and then after all that it was Christmas answers cat. Puzzle the cat puzzle. Yeah have you done it yet. No aw I started a different puzzle also got me a puzzle. Yeah Tigers in something so crazy shopping. I got the craziest puzzle. I could find really into puzzles. We got Knowledge family a puzzle like we do must years and it's this really beautiful pencil. Puzzles got foil on it for like the middle part of the eraser so kind of And they finished at the day after Christmas well. They started at Christmas Eve in finished it. So that's the puzzle. Update over here. Everybody we have a pencil pencil puzzle to we bought in. Durham giving same one. That very one pencils. It's like a bunch of pencils yet right. Yeah I think it's the foils. Shimmery are the Zeus Okay Carter. Shimmer We haven't governorship because we started to do it in the Both of our cats kept picking up the pieces in their mouth and trying to eat them. 'cause they're which is not the problem. I've heard other cat owners having a but Hannah also gotta Sir Christmas like a a little stackable. Plastic containers puzzles. That are in the shape puzzle pieces so we can come a convenient way to put it away when we're not working on it because otherwise cats will apparently eat it in the at their house In Las has they had this like big board that they put over the puzzle. That's in progress And then they also put a dumbbell on it and I thought well that's stupid because like if the problem is the cat's like baton them offer like walking on the puzzle pieces like the board should be fine because it's heavy but apparently the problem is not that they like eat them or walk on them that they jump on it And slide off the table and apparently they learned they can also do it with the board alone. They've sled they've jumped on the board and served it off the table so they put a dumbbell on it. Now it's Martin down. I have had that I've had had sticky cat feet causing thanks to go missing and I've had them jump on or off the table and slide like entire chunks of it off the table. It's very frustrating. I get it one hundred percent. It's like the diagram of people enjoy puzzles. And people who enjoy cats probably have a huge intersex but those two things are not compatible in the in the slightest. Yeah it's true it's it's the main struggle for caddy the puzzle management my goodness well. It's good to see you too again. Yeah it's good. It's good. I was really worried. I was getting updates on on the family text message chain the whole time. All that stuff was happening and it was it was especially that day in Colorado was worrying and then even when he got the the chains on his his tires. Ben was like texting US whenever he put the Monitor took him off and it he texted us about it. You know several times and I was like Oh God. I don't know if Ben's during this chain thing right so well do we have other affront staff or should we we sort of a front loaded the front loading it. Yeah let's just pop. In Christmas. You had a nice Christmas. Merry Christmas Savonarola Christmas. We're a nice Christmas present from Kylie. What'd you say headphones I'm wearing? We're very crisp and nice there here from Kylie Canceling Sony headphones. When I when I do this they let sound they stop? It's really cool. I can't do. The noise talked about accounting noise cancelling headphones because it makes me nauseous. What really yeah Google? It's like totally thing even got some Work got me a pair of bose noise cancelling headphones and I have to turn the head the noise cancelling off. Because I get I tried it. I've been trying it in small doses but I get. I get like nauseous. Wow which is a thing. Somali has at two gets a dislike some frequency counter frequency and it makes some people most the people that so interesting hunt role in. I am I and my obsession is light late late and breezy. It's line. I Love Light. Sunlight lamplight oh you know wait for site. I do WANNA give a shout out to our our cousin. Rachel my co-host done so dreaming who sent me three My Little Pony plushest rushing for Christmas. That's awesome because she knows so well longtime listeners. Lake Rachel might remember when I think in. Could I talked about my little pony as an obsession. So waiting. Rachel shoutouts Rachel. They're cute. I brought the third one to my office To put on my desk. Let's why don't have here but these are gonNA live here. so I started watching a new show. I recently found out that our our dad hates it and thinks the damage show ever the rest of our family likes it so much that it's the reason I started watching it. I haven't finished the season yet so so I don't have a ton to say. Yeah I need to yeah It's the witcher the witcher. I don't know anything about it though I I know. Here's what I know our family slack channel Nerd the channel Nerd talk has been blowing up about it. Yeah I had to mute it today. 'cause they were like talking unlike find black points viewers. What I know Kylie started watching it yesterday while I was still on Cape and finished it yesterday night I was playing pokemon and then fell asleep? So that's what I know about it. I was in the room. Osha wash like last three episodes kids. About what the flip is. I don't remember anything about them. It's a show about It takes place in like a fantasy to see realm there are elves and humans. And they're kind of like mutants like yes there are there are elves in and he wins in their Mejia's who are like human magical people and then there are are like there's there's a lot of and then there's also a ton of monsters and the the witcher is from a race of people who are basically monster hunters. They're not human people. Call him a Mutant I. I don't know the full story. Oreo HAL like the quote unquote race of Witcher's came to be but they have some things about them. That are different from humans like their eyes are like gold but then also sometimes times they can turn like really black and scary looking and They are like supposedly legend has it that whatever turns them into witcher's all slow causes them to like not be able to feel emotions anymore so he's very gruff. Like if I had to describe this this in like a mash up of things it would be like Shrek neath. Why are these you start with Shrek? Well there's like a dynamic where he has like a sidekick who's a Bard and and likes you yeah it's like very Shrek and then if I had a second one but I don't she's Shrek. It's a stresses me it's like. It's like a like a twist on the client Shrek tail. So it's been a challenge from the point of view of the Nandi. It's basically follows this guy named Who is the Shrek of the show is bipolar Alaska? Yeah and he's like the last witcher and So his races like dying but but like he's going around like killing monsters for money and Like basically trying to avoid destiny while it like comes barreling at him and I have to say like like dad was saying what all of our family were saying was the first few episodes are uneven. As far as like whether they're good or bad atv but like then as the season goes on it gets better and really picks up and becomes very interesting good and I my experience so far and I'm We're like episode five or six eighty is It doesn't it doesn't get like it's not like one of those shows like When I talked about dark where at first you're like what? Ah What the hell is this. What are all these threads that? How are they ever going to go anywhere like like it? And then it turns into like some beautifully crafted incredible piece of Art Art. Like it's it's. It's not like that. It's like you just started. Oh l-lee's was the other one the live action Hercules. It's like Shrek meets Hercules. That's what it feels like. Like the episodes. Some of them have like a monster of the week kind of feel five action Hercules. Yeah it's a TV show from the ninety. We don't we I don't know about it. What why Lena Yeah it was Zena? It was the same era as Xena. It started Shit in the Disney Hercules huck no hold on Hercules the legendary journeys Arnie's Covered Sorbo. Yes starring Kevin Sorbo. sorbet are mother. Ben At least should know the only reason I would know about. This differ. MOM watched it can I. Can I try to say what I think. You're trying to express which it's not like where like I didn't watch start but like it seemed like a jumbled mess and then it came together and it was art and you realized it wasn't ever jumbled mess Lake not artful enough to realize yet but but these episodes may be. You're like is this art later like now but it gets better as part of this conversation precision Kylie said that she. It's like the first show that she's watched where she's bullock openly identified as a guilty pleasure. Yeah I think it's extremely campy. That was something that like and the more it goes on the campaign or it gets. It's like camera but with campy but with very high production values Dan. We mentioned who superman. He's Superman Henry Cavill is the is the witcher he looks nothing like Superman Superman. Yeah On arms it looks from what I've seen fucking Henry cavill arms. He's stronger it currently during the recording of the show the costume designer said he kept wearing down all the Leather costumes with his huge muscles. He's kind of like everything. Looks a little too small for him so I feel like them like honestly but but yeah. It's like it's it's not not I wouldn't say it's not art of any kind like it's not. It's not garbage. Any any fucking sucks. It doesn't suck but it's just like yeah if it doesn't Suck it's fun it's fun to watch like it's not background for me playing pokemon. It's great background for a puzzle. I will say as I was doing today. It was really great and are excellent. If you had to identify like our family is all a twitter about it in the slack channel if you had to identify like what why lightly why this show why they so I haven't I haven't answered for you Kylie just texted me where it's been three months of Kylie text me thoughts in the middle of the shoulder. The additional thoughts on the witcher. Everyone is hot in the search. Fighting is good. That's very good and everyone is very hot by the end. Yeah that is true. That's true I like about it pretty much. There is a lot of sex in it Okay Oh and the other reason people the reason that people are giving it a chance and then are kind of like giving it an extra chance is probably because a lot of people people including the people in our family slack played video games because there are like three video games so that this is based off of and there's also book strong for books can I and it's based on the books more than the Games apparently okay but the but both at the p. e. and played video games. That's the reason it was familiar to me. I think a lot of the people who are watching play video games but I want to know which is like one of the best games ever. I've heard the first witcher is no good good. And the second and third one good heard the same exact show we there. Maybe the show is based off the videogames. The sometimes Sometimes it feels like like like the sword fighting for example. The sword fighting scenes are really really good. There's an excellent excellent excellent sword fighting scene in the first episode. And I think it feels like you're playing a really satisfying video game as you're watching it like there's a lot of slow mo and like kill moves and stuff like that when you say there's a lot of sex allies sword fighting Used to talk about sex. No unfortunately there's no gay anything so far which also passed sex says you and for that reason. I'm out so yeah I was actually thinking about that right before I came in here. I was like well. Everyone who's having sex is is men's and women's together since having success of each other so Hopefully there'll be some gay stuff at some point but naive out even take Hilmar Roddick. I could be interested in it with that. There is like a sort of begrudging friendship loyal loyal like loving friendship developing between the Bard character. And the witcher so like he was very like I give spoilers but That's something I don't know. How a friendship in Hercules that was the thing to like? You know I talked about it with Zina. But also in the Hercules really show he had a sidekick who was with him all the time who was a guy and obviously they both like did straight things with women during the show but they also like were constantly together an incredibly loyal to each other similar to. I don't think they ever got together though whereas I think towards the end of Xena they they may have actually been a thing. But I'm not sure but anyway it's just fun. It's fun to watch. It's actually to watch in a very similar way to housing nine Hercules. Were Fun to watch back in the nineties. It's just like it's pretty camp but it's but the special effects as I said are very good. That people are all beautiful and it's just fun to watch the end now cool so yeah thanks and then the family mlive. There's people to talk to you about it in our family. That's right but don't talk to dad about it because he watched not even the entire first episode. He's decided that it's garbage. I set the music. Zena came out at the same time Hercules and Xena came out at the same time as yet rely I the show or Commute Disney movie the show Mile Really. Yeah why are you say. I've literally never heard of the show. I said it came out in the nineties. Nineties when do you think who years later. I don't know when they're it. Hercules moving much later yeah flip. It's just so clear to me a living fucking Internet all of us. Who Don't have that top of mind are inferior and should be shamed? I put up a picture of Hercules in his bro in the goodies. I let's check it out. Let's check it out okay. There they are shorter stories. Yeah yeah that'd chemistry. Yeah Show Michigan Chemistry There's also there's a new terrorist house out in its good. Oh you've been watching the L word. We're not caught up from her last week because we were traveling but What are your thoughts So far I am I'm enjoying it the either Three I think there are three. We've only seen two. I think I've only seen two also. Okay yeah so by this Alison has to be like Ellen now. Is that what we're gather. I don't think she's on Ellen level but I think she is she's just she's a TV show now while I'm happy for her. Yeah I don't think she ellen Eileen she was to be Ellen because like ellen gets all sorts of celebrities everybody the everybody. Yeah I'm I'm enjoying it. There's Ellen what did you say. Rio Butcher was on Ellen. Oh I didn't see that that's so cool to check that out. I've been off the INSTA- Aaron okay. My term with might obsessions. Since Week is a book that I read this week for pleasure because it's such a fucking good book. It's the Martian by Andy. We're no it's a Russian memory. I haven't seen the movie I think I have. I have to maintain minute. I do know that lavancy that I'll probably watch it but this. This is the second time I read this book. It's so fucking good. The premise of the Martian is. It's like Saifi. It's a sci-fi book but it's like near future Sifi. It's like no realistic near future is what I would say It's Abou put a guy who stuck on Mars He was on How he gets the so? Yeah so he's on a manned mission Asian Mars so that's kind of realistic near future bit of it is on a manned mission to Mars and Storm Rolls in unexpected storm. Rolls in and and They're going back to the Mars ascent vehicle to like go back up to their spaceship or they're you know that's what they call. Call it you know. They're like realistic NASA space station ship situation And basically like he gets knocked by this poll that punctures the spacesuit and he gets like knocked away and they have to go without him and they assume he dies because all of his like biometrics suit indicate that he has died but actually like he's not dead he's able to like He he comes to. He's able to like see that he's been punctured by this like Pole through his sued but it the way that he kind of fell on it form to seal. And here's able to like so it's basically really about like this guy coming to realizing that he is alive and he's been abandoned on Mars by people who think he's dead and like the communications on the little space ten. Not The word they use is damaged damage. Yeah he's face camping so he can't really communicate and so what's interesting about the book is it's written by a guy. I who is like total nerd. He's like a programmer in Engineer and He wrote this book for Fun then basically in the way that he originally published it was just excuse me for free on his website in a serial manner chapter by chapter and a cool thing thing about it is. There's a ton of like so it's basically like this guy trying to survive on Mars. He's really funny. I actually I I think sentence of the book is really really compelling So he's really fun character. He has got a great sense of humor. He's Super Smart. He's super like macgyver. He's basically like encountering all of these crazy situations realistic situations. I mean And solving them with science this this is like the beginning of the book log. Entry soul six. I'm pretty much fucked. That's my considered opinion fucked six days into what should have been the greatest month onto my life and it turned into a nightmare and then it goes on from there. So what's interesting about it is he. Keeps encountering these scenarios that that Put Him in a life threatening situations and he uses like science and math to get himself out of it and it's all like detailed old in the book like a lot of his calculations and a lot of the like he has to do a bunch of chemical reactions to like give himself more oxygen or get himself water and hill like those and they're all for the most part like completely scientifically accurate And really interesting and compelling. It's like here you know I needed. I needed to do this task and I need like you're the tool. They have to do it with. And then he kind of like details his solution And the and the the goal of the author author was to was to make it like so that like it would actually work So anyway that sound looking to St. Yeah he's a yeah yeah. He's a mechanical engineer and a botanist. And so there's a whole thing where he like gross potatoes on Mars with Anna. It's just a fun Book it's a page Turner. It's really interesting. I just can't recommend it enough. have been trying to get Malaita. Read it for the longest time. He thinks he would really enjoy it. 'cause it's really science nerdy but also like so interesting And it feels different lakers. Yeah it feels like totally plausible. I'd love to see the movie But Yeah it's great the Martian and ear. Yeah the movie is supposed to be good reviews. I didn't see it either. Now Bud Org Honeywell fascinating the movies. Excuse me yeah. Y- apparently seventy million dollars. I'm sorry for the hiccups. You can't help. Yeah so he. Apparently he was releasing it -serily on his website and then people were like. Can you please put this on Amazon. Because I want to have it on my kindle so he put it just for like ninety nine cents on Amazon the low because he couldn't he wanted to do it for free but you can't you like to keep it up long term. You have to sell it for something. So I put up for ninety nine cents and then they were like went viral like it was just a ton of people were downloading it like buying it. And then he got a book deal and a movie deal like pretty simultaneously premiered simultaneously and then was like a New York Times bestseller. He was like Oh. I was just reading this refund. Yeah yeah it seems like something. Anybody who travels to Mars in the future should bring with them just in case exactly right it it actually. It is really funny too. I don't think I mentioned that. But it's like the main characters like very funny so it's Kinda got it all who accept romance because he stuck on marketing is the only person there so I really think like the romance. You know with himself off is really nice like the and the potatoes and the potatoes. Yeah definitely yeah. He loves them. Loves US the TATORS. Yeah such a check check it out. Wow can't imagine cool the Martian Vanak guy but that guy with the same I can look at it. Be Weird your thank you okay neat. Yep thanks Aaron. You're welcome the end. Ben What's your obsession. My obsession is a quick one a in it's related to pass obsessions. We've all had and maybe someone has already brought it. I remember the third sues. Earn the third season Japan Japan season of Queer Eye in Japan. It's called we brought queer eye. But I feel like this is a totally valid temperature. Have we talked to we. We haven't mentioned the Japan. Have you watched Japan episodes. I haven't you have it and it's something I really like about them is is that you also get to learn a lot about Japanese culture. Yes the cultural norms in them. And that's something that a lot of the people in the run up against is he's like I've only seen the first episodes but I'm really enjoying them so far. People run up against the the issues related to Japanese cultural norms. Like one of them is that in the third episode the water. What do they call the hero? The hero is grounded Chi Chi Chi Chi. Kfi New pronounce all the letters in Japanese. Say Ten is. Hey Tom kyw. Is that the problem. Our problem is one of the things is like her mom like. She is kind of a strange relation with her mom and part of it and they go through the talk about this in the episode. Is that like. It's really not normal in Japan. Not like considered normal to show a lot of emotion like love love outwardly like Kylie. I learned a while ago because we were watching. I think we've mentioned Rachel engine before they're a couple of Japan and Rachel's American Jonas Japanese and one of the things that they've run into a couple is June very rarely said. I love you for a long time because it's so rare to say that in Japan and the there are two words for love Japanese ski I think it's dice gear skin. Remember women's like this seems like and it's like if you say like I love that movie like whatever But then I love you which is like I should tell you I think is it probably terribly but That's like I love you like really like deep intense love and Jin was like when I hear that makes me think of like someone dying because that's like you would say to someone on their death bed you would very rarely say that as like a relationship But like Rachel one of them say Carr's in America we all the time and that was an end in that episode. KYW's mom says that to her. And it's like kind of a big moment but even even even like having that like rudimentary understanding of how how unusual it is made that like super like Shish really said that And then also the second hero is is a gay man living in Japan and how how Japan is very far behind with regard to LGBT stuff. There's like A. There's a big they go to this place in Tokyo. There's a big inactive active gay district neutral may what's which literally means second neighborhood but it's it's like the second district of Tokyo in it's A big game like a ton of gay bars in big. LGBT community but it is still not super widely accepted and and he went to school overseas and he like was kind of stuck between Out Not being accepted for being Asian than not being cited by Asian community for being gay MHM He was a really great one. Since Kerr Sweet it's such a lot of Another like the first one. Is this this woman him Yoko who has like the sweetest persons if God she watching know Yoko fucking runs a hospice nurse in like runs a hospice facility facility out of her own house and like gives all the rooms to her patients and sleeps on the floor. Because there's no room for bed anywhere literally sleeps on so sweet. She's nicest unlike she she is divorced. Didn't have any kids. And there's like a thing in Japan where you people forget the wording of it but it's like people will say you're like no longer a woman or something if you're you're not living up to expectations and like she started kind of treating herself like that. There's just like all these things that like you don't really and you know the the only thing it's different but also we run into kind of the similar. A lot of similar issues emotional issues in America for a lot. I think it's different ways you get there. You know what I mean. It's interesting how you end up with like the Koroma's encouraging speeches are not that different between the Japanese American hero but at the cultural avenues that arrived there are often quite different. I'm Japan's just very interesting place. There's a lot of great things about it and there's a lot of love a ways that it definitely needs work especially I think in the way that it treats women and LGBT people great that two out of the three like all three of the first three years whereas have been either women or LGBT. I don't know about the rest but yeah it's just really good and it's really great insight into a part of Japanese culture that we don't get to see a lot of in American media. Yeah even like the hugging like hutchings. Commas isn't it like with with you with Yoga spoiler but like you know they obviously come in. They're hugging everybody. And you know part of me was thinking about like Oh that's not maybe in their culture. Is that still okay doing that. But I think about that like when they're hugging the heroes in America. Like those men. Don't those people who aren't getting hugged like is that like task toxic masculinity absolutely like people. It is a very similar thing. Yeah Yeah Right. It's like Kinda like Kinda it's like. And then at the end like the yoga of so she and her friend hugged and they were like huggins. Great we should hug we should have in yes. Also it's so weird that I love. Everything is so weird. come up again in another SIP. But it's lake to not have said I love you like you know in our house where it's like. You Know Hiking Seltzer. Thanks a love you like. It's almost like a like a punctuation of earth. It's it's just so it has Lewis Muting Dixon so not at all. Well it's not. It's not unheard unheard of the I've definitely heard people have that opinion of saying I love you in America. Maybe not as intense because I I watched that Rachel in June video and so I know exactly how he described it and it did sound a little more intense and like I think it's also more widespread. Yeah and for all the terrorists has that I've watched. I've heard a lot of people. People confess their feelings for for people. And I've heard them even like I've heard them talk like once in relationship and planning on leaving the house and stuff like that the the dating show. I've never heard that stronger word for love on that show ever like they always say ski but but the But like I definitely definitely know of couples or just individuals who have that opinion that like saying I love you all the time cheapens it but I also but does not I don't I don't agree. Yeah I think I mean if you if you if you don't mean it or if you like are not considering what you're saying and you're just like you know then that's one thing but I also like a I don't you know not to be like like Morbid. But like if I'm on the phone with someone that I love and then I got off the phone with them and like got an accident or something like I would want that to be the last thing they heard it from me. You know. Yeah like at all times I I want people to know that I love right right. That's how that's how I feel about that. Yep agreed it can't it can't cheapen it because it's like would not say it is so withholding I feel like it's like I'd rather it feel so common that it feels cheap then feel like it was never said right in. WBZ Like Gosh. She just won't stop telling me that she loves me. That's so annoying like no one's GonNa no we we say it a lot Kylie is like don't you just like a nice reminder every time I don't know she goes little bits great. That's just for somebody to just like voluntarily. Charlie say that to you is just like it's just so nice to make a good. I never think like Gosh. What did they say? We're seeing some top. Sometimes when he and I have the same opinion on something spontaneously taniwha sleep or reflect say a thing at the same time accidentally will be like we're in love but that's cool. Okay I haven't watched it yet. You know I I was is thrown but like I as you guys. Not a huge fan of terraced house which also gives me a cool window into Japanese culture. So I don't know why I didn't think it would be cool but it just felt so Out of the blue that they suddenly went to Japan that I just kind of like put off watching. It wasn't sure what to think you know. I don't know so I'll watch it now. It's it's just a regular season except there in Japan. That's all all of the great things the celebrate me to tell me to watch it. Basically and Andrew gets to see bobby like work in interesting races with with a lot of consideration for I think they do a great job of like walking that fine fine line between respecting the culture end and disrupting the toxic parts of the ruling. They they really kinda revote. It's real. I mean it's hard enough in America. Yeah like a whole country is like really like very earnestly are like trying to to learn about like exactly that like what kind of things they can sort of. They can sort of breakdown without being disruptive of the culture that they're in like how they can live within that culture in wizard ethnic for them right and like long term. You know like these people learn aren't new. They're they're gonNA continue their life after this like you know that sort of impact that will be sustainable It is distracting and for the first episode. His the translation is not transparent. They don't don't give you a transparent a transparent window. Oh into how they're doing the translation until after the episode So I'll just say there is a translator who's there on scene who's basically like doing it directly okay but she is never pictured so it's not like they'll talk to draft news in the five will respond in English as if they understood it. Write and editing. It's basically the a translation later is completely edited out so you kind of it. Looks like they're just having a conversation in two languages and it is a little distracting in the first episode. But then you get used to it interesting. I found you mean to translate molly. I paused and we're like googling it so. It's not like Marie Condo on her. Translate right exactly right. You don't ever see the chancellor except for one a little blip right at the end of the first interesting you meet her she seems cool. That's culture dosing cool now. She's singer Angela. Legal I have I have one final question. If if a ready to move towards homework I have one final guys have either received cats and follow up. Do you want to join right there with you. I've seen awesome real life cats and I do want to continue. I do like real life cats. I have Movies cursed and no one should go. Here's the thing is that true way. Have you seen it well soon the trower. It's cursed is reportedly incredibly bad. But but apparently the showings of it at least in the like opening weekend like literally just spontaneously turned into like basically rocky horror picture show okay. Cherry's people were so like blown away by how bad it was on opening weekend. Not only was it just like the regular regular type of bad where it was just like. Mind bogglingly weird terrible in a way that not even the stage show is but it also was not the special effects. Were not even Finished did you guys hear about this service. Yeah the fucking movie. Yeah in the weekend and like the whole basically first week of the show and like a lot of their views came out. It said that like there were these crazy weird issues with the special effects like at one point you you see judy. Judy dench has cat pause. Except like this one shot where she has like just a full on hand with a wedding ring and everything just it it was. I was like how like I'm reading. This is insane. How did this happen? And it and then They sent out a patch for the movie. We'll be where they were they somehow. They realized that they had not like so. Not The right version or they hadn't like finished doing the special effects. Absolutely senator revised version. Oh my gosh. So that's the other thing where I'm like. I wonder if I went this weekend. If I could catch the old version and or if every everywhere is patched by now like I just I have a lot of curiosity about it but well. It's it's all digital obviously like back you know they get it from a robot over a website or whatever. There's a scene it on twitter. Where Yeah Rebel Wilson Yeah. There's like a bunch of dancing cockroaches also with human faces. Also humanoid MM annoyed and rebel Wilson each one of them and then zips off her cat skin and pose it off and is wearing more cat skin in with like an outfit on top. And it's so so unsettling when she goes zip and fucking starts pulling your skin off. Yeah it's I. I read about that interview and I was like. I can't tell if this is real or if I remember you saying that and and then the clip started going on twitter. Why how do Evan Rachel Wood slams cats were thing I have ever seen? Yeah I got it has. One Star has eighteen percent on rotten tomatoes. That's so bad surprised. Yeah Yeah it looks incredibly bad but I feel like I don't know probably I'd rather the source material. It's fucking musical where a bunch of cats are trying to convince an old cat to let them die really. The one who dies is yes. It's not a whole thing is making their case to go to the heavy side layer which is basically heaven and electors ceremony. Were every year one cat gets to go to the heavy side layer and all of the songs cats introducing themselves to try and convince old deuteronomy a a helen. Mirren Judi dench rather to be the one to die boy. I'm no watch it. Oh thank you for trying to find this Erin out gross. Okay he'll you I can't. Why is the inside? That's the worst part is when like she pulls it off and like the inside of it. Looks like it's like almost blood colored. Yeah and also she just had clothes on underneath your skin this alive so much. It's why would you. I did make this movie. I don't know where I don't know if it was on twitter or in a review or what but like you know with regards to the way that the crowds react to this show This movie I I yeah I read something somewhere about someone going with their significant other. And that's it just the two of them together and that the The whole place is getting Kinda Raucous and then at one point. He turned to his like spouse and asked why someone was doing something and she just turned to him and just yelled he stupid bad that makes me insane like just to see it Arregui on rotten tomatoes critics consensus despite its first medical cast. This cat's adaptation is a cloth mistake. That will leave most viewers begging to be put out of their muser on my plate. Zaranj Manas like official. Why so anyway Homework okay hit weight ratings reviews around two Betas data's it's just baffling and yet must be it's bad but you've got to experience it. Yeah that's allowed to vote but I'm not I'm just not gonNA pay money to see it. It's the thing I really won't. I do have gift cards for free movies but I was thinking about using that a little women alkyl very good. I guess I mean how good can it be little. Lemon it's not cats. It's not little cats to mention. Oh and then we talked about and this is such a small thing at this point with regard to cats but the fucking and this is this is the thing with the original musical also and I will always use up because it bothers sure to me. Is that the skit they're off. The scale is wrong like their way. Too fucking smell. They're not cat sized the real world items around them are much bigger than would be to a cap up. There was like a mouse size. I've heard a lot worse than the movie. Then state showed slightly even in the studio. There's a giant tire that's on stage the whole time apparently early and is like way bigger than it would be a cat. It's like a thing in the original too. It's ridiculous I hate it sorry about that. Why did you do that I'm sorry cool. So in conclusion see cats are. Don't but just be informed before you go it before you go. If flopped horrendously it was like it made like five million dollars on a ninety five million dollar budget Yeah had so many stars in it. Yeah reimburse the Taylor Swift is in Yeah Yeah not very long. Apparently Judi dench church. Yeah Dame Judi. They're taking away your dame nece anyway homework. If you like crazy people in Yucca like attractive people And sexual tension and a monster. Killing and cool sword fights check out the witcher. It's fun is it sexual tension or is it actually just sexual sex both both okay. Yeah there is sexual tension. And it's on Netflix. 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Heather's BIG Plans for Her BIIIIIIG Birthday!

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Heather's BIG Plans for Her BIIIIIIG Birthday!

"The following program is brought to you by your friends at podcast one. Don't forget to download our new podcast one out. Did you world? And now you can live in it two times a week right here on podcast one. Welcome back. Everybody. I feel like I haven't slept days and feeling like I have this little cold on give congestion yet. And so everyone is talking about people are getting a sinus infection, and I am not doing that. Medication? I did. Okay. Good. I took a little jet, which I never ever do did take a little just in case medication because I just don't want to be sick. So tonight's a kickoff. Yes. So I tried to get Terry like really into my birthday yesterday. He would have none of it. I tried it on New Year's Eve. I'm like, well, this is the official launch to my birth that he was like. Really and then less and then on the treadmill at orange there this weekend. There was some song on it was saying it's my birthday pointing to myself. It's day. When didn't go for it, get it. So here's the thing. So today, so smart came over and I had tried on some things like before the holidays that are already have. And just in case outfits. Well, if I can't find anything over this in this for my birthday and. Then she found the I don't know. So she came over today, and I tried to stuff on it just didn't feel like a birthday outfit. This this isn't the problem. They're both. So we're going out for dinner with my friends, just very small group and unsaddled. Tearing I are going to go for lunch, and I just wanted. I don't know what I wanted. I think the problem is. It's just like the whole celebration in general is that you feel like it has to be so epic. And does it. I think it's it's like it's like we'll talk about with new years. You think we put so much pressure on it? You have to just release it, right? Yeah. So that's exactly the thing. But I was kind of like crabby triumph. I was like sorry. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And then I had that moment. Whereas like, and maybe even Samara said this to be she's like, it's funny. If she plucks on your brain shows, it's funny. If this was someone else's birthday. You would love all this. And I go, right. Because like when we went up to LA for Nancy's birthday. I picked my outfits like that. Right. Even when we were up for diversity. I think it was just very easy because it didn't feel so important. I feel like exactly what you're saying. When you feel like it has to be this big epic thing you put too much importance on it. So I tried on like the other things I had originally thought as my just-in-case case close. No, not really right now. I'm over thinking it, it's fine. Who cares? The only thing is this is the only thing. So the dress wearing for dinner. Yeah. You've seen it. And I almost didn't texture a picture of it. Because I thought she's gonna tell me she likes it. No matter. What because. Yeah. You can tell me you're not going to be feel bad about it. It's bad taste though. I mean, knowing, but I think probably with you, you probably have said knowing lake it. But is there another option or I don't know? The thing is usually I wear saying that shows like my arms, right? My upper. Right. That's like I think my part of my body that I like the best and this is like long sleeve and it's super short, right. Like, there's no underwear. No, no. You have legs for days and that dress, and I'm not even wearing like crazy high heels because these are actually super comfortable, but it just is not something I would typically wear which is fine. But I don't know it's beautiful. Well, it's pretty it's. It is. But it's not it is. But it's not. And I think you you make it look. So glamorous it, but it's a gorgeous. Thank you. I didn't have my hair done. I have this like maybe sinus infection, and while I was cutting the tag, I cut my finger. I mean, my thumb pad which is by law and might need a stitch now that I'm really looking at it. But I'm just saying I think it was that and got his meanwhile, people having babies who else Oakham Kim Kardashian on that who else Vanessa Bryant Kobe. Oh, I did see that. That's so cute. What are they like on their six point? It is Felix. She has so many kids are fourth girl because they're all so little, but they're not her two oldest ones know her oldest is in high school. I think freely. Yeah. Just a little one. She started. She does bianca's little for youngest little I want to say she's a year and a half old. I can't Kim's doing another one too. That's insane. Well, I kinda get that. I mean, this whole thing it out while it's while they're all still young because the older you're getting older, and it's hard, and if you really wanted for and she comes from a family of a lot of kids. Right. So she's used to having a lot of sibling. And I would think not having done. This boy must be nice DeVos's surrogate. I know is with that body that she has right now. Right. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, so it takes all of the sickness and the fat out of it in the recovery. And it was so successful that one night. Yeah. It was so successful. And she loved her surrogate. And. Yep. It worked. Out. So well using the same circuit, I think so that's I didn't see her announcement. No, I on teams E. So is it true? A must be right. She posts that kind of true. I don't know. I don't know that it's great that is Israel exciting. I know. So what are you looking forward to this year? I'm I'm I want to really focus on. Taking all business. I really wanna focus on myself this year. I liked your picture. Both thank yous good. Thanks or put more. Meaning before my big, let me look at your void, so bad. So I was putting all the stuff on it. I think I'm like burning. Can't see it. Good spot. I swear you can't what do you mean? You. It's a third. I know it's not because you can I tell you something. It's almost a perfect crease. You be able to get scared. It's, but it's right underneath the I it's so sensitive it makes it a little old. Because now, I'm putting all this chemicals on don't do that. You know, we should put on it. Don't do this at home court his own green on it. I feel like I've done you can put cortisone cream topically, you know, sometimes people in. Yeah. Yeah. I do not like injecting cortisone become I if you have like one of those big undergrounds zip and you inject cortisone, even if it's a drop too much. You can get a Divet. And then you're gonna end it. You can't there's nothing to do about it. That's forever pockmark. So I really don't like dying that I don't like do. That's like worse worse. Worse. Worst case. You know, what you just being right? I don't know if it was your wedding, and you did a tiny amount. I don't know. I guess so, but I've been putting so much stuff on sizzling my skin. But yeah, I really do want to go, and I wanna show myself more self love, I feel like I really was harder myself last year. Okay. You know, I was always complaining or this. Or that? I just really want to have a fresh start. I want to just take care of myself to carefully skin my hair, the things that always bothered me. I really wanted just take care of by the way Behar's at the same really interesting. She said what I wanna do this year is take care of myself. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's a beautiful thing to do was. I think is with the whole move and everything I really the last six months, it's sort of took me out of my routine. So it gained a little, and it was a little this fluctuated a lot. I just I want to really hone in on. Okay. I get on a really good routine. Just. Yeah. Practice a little more self love. We're taking a quick break. But make sure to check out the wonderful sponsors who keep this show free. Make sure to check out the show description for links to all the deals on today's episode. All your friends podcast one. Thank you for a wonderful twenty eighteen and we hope twenty nineteen is even better hates Adam parole up Nintendo Dubrow from Heather grows world devolves from Steve Joe pay straw, wriggle carrots Yana from wriggled picks doesn't Kaitlyn bristowe from off the vine. This is Kelsey from the lady gang happy new year from odd cast mine. This is heavy do broS world yard. To road. Better. I really I mean, we always talk about how I've become much less. We ash which is good. But you know, what I don't know if it's turning fifty or just that it's new year. I feel like you know, what I I remember when Kristen China with on the show, and she was turning fifty. And I said, do you feel like I'm looking at all the things I haven't done or all the things that I wanna do or all the things I have done like, how do you go? She kind of. Said everything. Yeah. And I think I feel the same way. But I I have not been feeling like. Which I have in the past like, oh, I still haven't done. This don't feel that we right now. You know, what I feel like? I'm starting the second half. That's a long asked life. Yeah. I think about fifty years you really remember the first twenty right? Do you know what I'm saying? I ten for sure much blur. And the second ten you got images things. But that's why I was thinking about with my kids like you really start living your life when you leave home. That's like when your life as a person begins. And so if if I cut my life in twenty five year increments, it's really been the last twenty five years that I've done all this incredible amazing things got married and had four children had multiple television shows and written books at right? You know, the billboard in Times Square Aggasing covers and all kinds of a lot of very cold bucket list things one even say anthem and angel stadium. Like, so many cool things. Now, there's so much more. Yeah. That I wanna to Rachel's. Oh posted on new years. She was like I can't wait for next year. There's so much more. I want to do. But it was really it didn't lead as like, oh, I have so much more to do it. Was very positive. I'm excited for all these things. I now get to do. And I think what's resonating with me right now turning fifty is that. I feel like here we go. There's the second half of the game. It's only Hege rated by it's. Yeah. And you never know what's going happen. Like people get bad diseases, and they get sick, but you know, in general super healthy person and I intend to lived on hundred. So I see this as the second half. And I'm stronger wiser than I was twenty years ago five years ago, and I have more accessibility to to make things happen that I want to happen. And I love the ages that my kids are at. I mean. Yeah, it's not always perfect and sometimes it's painful nurse hormones and kogo still little and coming to my bed. I get all that. But in general when we go out, and it's fun. It's awesome. Yeah. I mean, it's great. I can talk to them right complained trips with them Maxon. I have a really really good relationship. Again, not always perfect. But I love how we talk to each other. And how she confides in me and depends on me. In the appropriate ways. And it's still a very smart independent girl Nikki's growing into he's always been to good guy. But he's really like. You worry about your kids because you see these these things in them. And you know, I word he'd be easy on himself where he wouldn't try enough. And what he did during finals was amazing and impressive. And really I hope an indication of the person he's continuing to be and then got arena. I just love how she loves the theater. I have no idea. She's talented not that, but she loves it and passionate about and that means honestly so much more than anything. Right. And CoCo is you should've seen her interior the day. We went to the basketball game. They were thickest thieves like laughing and playing and carrying on and they've been playing hockey in the garage. Wow. With this little silly Haughey set netting. I mean, it's been so by the way, still bleeding. It's been so beautiful to watch them. And I look around, and I feel like cry love it. But I feel like, you know, at everything I've accomplished so far. Yes, there's been like crazy things that other people have never gotten to do, and, you know, trips and experiences and wjm TV show all kinds of stuff like that. But I swear my absolute greatest achievement has been building this family. That's why I think when something's wrong or doesn't go. Well, I find it so upsetting because I do like, I take it personally. And I think it's my fault. I think one of the things that I need to do this year is not just be less reactionary, but just be more positive in general roll with things. Don't look for the bad end of things don't live in the past with things just make it. All okay. That's so beautiful. So it's just like the basketball game. Listen, there was a moment. I could've looked at Embiid like use spent how much money this son schlep up here to. Nope. We laughed we had fun made it work. And and I feel like I. Always tried to do that. But I wanna be really focused, and I want to just keep moving forward in the most positive way. When I read backed of this year, I thought this was an inch what I'd written. This was an interesting year. There were like a lot of really great things happen this year and gosh, we're about forty million downloads for Brazil, which is so exciting going to be doing a panel at south by southwest this year, a lot of great things coming down the pipeline. I mean, the book is flying off the shelves, by the way restocked at Amazon for now. So if you haven't gotten your copy of the debris giant, do it. Now, I had to have a HARA Goto. She was going to Tustin to Barnes and noble, and I had to get her header by me a few copies because I had to send some to be. I didn't have any left. Oh, my it's so crazy. It's been really exciting. One of the things that Terry said that he wanted for this year is he wants to spend more time together taking little weekends taking little breaks. And. I can't tell you how important that is. So when you're telling me in Bihar today, also saying you wanna take care of yourself more. I think it's so important for all of us to at times put ourselves I take care of ourselves, but take care of our relationship. So whether that's with your parents, if it's with your children, if it's with your significant other if it's with your friends just take start twenty nineteen in a way, like stop arguing about the path stop trying to clean shit up. You know, what all we have is today and tomorrow, absolute, that's it. Who cares? What happened yesterday? It actually doesn't matter. It's gone. So get it together and be present. I think to Spieth resin put the phones down. Yeah. Okay. Could play floppy Gulf fifteen minutes while you're having a cocktail till your appetite come then put it away in here. What your kids have to say here? Your significant other has to do those getaways love that you guys are going ranch of lie. So fabulous. Anyway, that's where I'm at. We'll see how it all goes through having family dinner tonight. Tomorrow's my recovery day. I make oh get a little itchy just because I'm not feeling well, and I'm bleeding out. Oh my gosh. And it's a it's a mess. It's not. And then Friday, we're going to do this really fun. Little LA thing. We're going Friday for the dinner and then Saturday, turn are having lunch with whoever I guess the remnants of people that are straggling around wanna come with us. And then we're coming home, and Chris my brother-in-law got us stars born. Oh, that's amazing. So we're gonna call it tears seat at. Oh, my so that's my actual birthday sat on to come home to kiss my kids. I'm gonna be salty popcorn. And I'm going to go in the movie theater to watch stars board. And then on Sunday, I would have a massage and then taking just me and Terry in the four kids, and we're gonna go to Gulfstream for dinner. I love it. That's going to be it's going to be so great. So you know, what I what I was trying outfits. I was getting cranky and I came in. And I thought I haven't slept in days because everyone keeps coming in take a little nap. And I texted group you have to regroup. That's what I did. I laid down on the bed. I slept for like, forty minutes, and I got up, but I thought this is so great. I'm so lucky. I'm so grateful to be with my family, and my friends and whatever happens. I don't care. Who cares? If it's not the perfect dress of the earrings are. Who cares? It's all about the experiences and my favorite parts of two thousand eighteen have been those fun fabulous uninhibited, pure joy moments. And that is what I am looking for for not just the birthday, but for two thousand nineteen and beyond. So if you wanna shit New Year's like Mia, Natalie it bodes very well. A great New Year's, I don't know. We're going to actually be back in the studio. Yes. Next week, which is really excited. So we're going to start talking about new year new youth things that are coming up. Get your copy the debris. Oh, we're going to be back at Yvonne. Second weekend in January. Then I'm telling you chuckle core is finally going to be back in stock. So a new flavor berry core, which tastes like now and leaders are so yummy. Plus, the bury the blueberry flavored beats oh are back. Goodness. They haven't been here in six months. They are bags and are copper twenty nine products. Always fly off the shelves. 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Balancing Your Body Through Nutrition with Blair Horton

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Balancing Your Body Through Nutrition with Blair Horton

"And welcome to the. I tried at podcasts hosted by Chris and Kirk. If you're curious about living your most optimal life but not sure where to start. Then you've tuned it to the right place in each episode. I'll explore topic and health. Wellness lifestyle beauty or spirituality. Together other will discover different ways to invest in ourselves and I hope to inspire you to try something new high. Franz just just wanted to give a quick at it if you will at the top of this recording. I promise I'm GonNa make this super-quick. This interview happened in in August. Twenty nineteen a couple months before I started my health journey with my natural paths and in the interview. You're going to hear me talk talk about how I'm not getting my period and how I haven't had a food sensitivity test so if you listened to last week's episode road with my two thousand nineteen recap you'll know that I have been working with a natural path and part of that work has been getting back a regular cycle and identifying my food sensitivities. So if you listen to the episode in you're listening to this just when you might be like. Oh Hey what's up with that. It's just because I recorded this a little bit earlier in the year but yeah let's get into the episode. Hi Friends welcome to the I tried a podcast cast. This is your host Kristin Crook if you're new to the show catching up on episodes or a loyal listener. Welcome welcome for for the new listeners. I'm here as your non expert friend who will explore different ways. We can liver most optimal lives and my mission mission is to inspire you to try something new before getting into today's topic and gassed listeners. You know what I'm going to ask so I'll be super quick if you enjoy today's conversation leave me a five star rating a lovely review and subscribe abso. You don't miss an episode or shout out the podcast on your instagram story to share with your friends. Thanks so much in advance all right. Let's get into it today. We're going to talk about one of my favorite things and that's food but more importantly and something I'm excited to learn more about is how food can be medicine. Those topics fascinates me. Because I I personally want to find that balance between enjoying what. I'm eating while being mindful of what I put into my body without being crazy Z.. Restrictive but I'm not the expert on how to eat so to talk about all things nutrition. I have nutritionists trichinosis and author of the Goddess Guide. Blair Horton joining me today. Blair I'm thrilled to have you on the pod before where we get into it. Could you please tell us more about yourself. Yeah Hey guys Kristen thanks for having me. My name is Blair. I'm definitely a nutrition consultant but I'm a big entrepreneur so I feel like when I ever I introduced myself speak about myself. It's kind of a million different the things which can be confusing. But I'm a nutrition consultants. I'm a natural chef and then I am holistic lifestyle blogger behind holistic rendezvous. Hey Bill so my focus is really on food. I love food as well just like you. I mean don't we all that's what we need to live but I also put a huge focus on women's cycles so as you stated I wrote a book called the Goddess Guide it's currently the only available as an e book I'm working on getting published because that is a big ask But that is kind of like the biggest passion project of mine right now is kind of of integrating what I was already doing with holistic nutrition consulting blogging creating recipes Enduring in a way that helps. Women embraced braced their cycle. And just feel more in tune with themselves. So I'm sure we'll talk about that quite a bit today. the yeah that's kind of where I am professionally but definitely a whole gamut of things. I'm sure is there any other entrepreneurs eliciting totally didn't know day as the same wonderful. Thanks so much Blair and yes I that sounds so exciting to cover all the things and you know now. It's it's good did not to put ourselves in one box and explore all the things that were passionate about. So that's really exciting. And is your book a new project project or Where you out with the goddess sky? Because I know that you said it's an e book now and you're working on getting it in a physical format yes So I completed the Book Ray before Christmas last year and I've just been working on a finding a publisher or an agent to help me kind of before it. I was originally planning on self publishing. which was like a whole crazy world So I would really like to work with someone to do that but yeah it was interesting actually. Actually I can just kind of tell you this story about has started. Please do I guess it's interesting. It kind of began as a passion project because it was something that I was lacking in myself. I've been doing nutrition consulting for about five years now. I was cooking for families lays before that so in the natural chef realm and blogging as well. So I've kind of been in the scene for a while about two two years ago. I realized that a lot of my health issues were stemming from a professional perfectionist mentality With food with everything in Life Ace just being overly competitive and I realized that that was because I was living in my masculine so really like kind of to give an example of masculine energy is usually from the head. It's more like task in detail oriented You know kind of competitive drive like not being expressive with your emotions. And that's kind of where I was professionally in my relationships like working now food. Everything was super strict and by the book and by the rules. So I found myself. You know trying different diets out Even as a nutrition consultant Still finding myself kind of trapped in some body image issues And just like looking for ways to get out of that and it was so apparent to me when I realized that I was living my life from this masculine perspective. I started looking into ways that I could embrace the feminine inside inside of myself more To eventually connect with the individuals that I wanNA drawing the correct relationships into my life Working on my health were him. I- business kind of truly like every integration of my life and I was meditating one day day and this was about like six months after I had been working on myself in kind of embracing that feminine side and I was just like okay. I have this idea for a book. Look this is what every woman meads and truly had like a full download. I would say of exactly what the book needed to be. It's really about women embracing their cycle. So we all bleed we all menstruating unless care taking a pill that is causing us not to anymore. You know that's what makes us inherently currently different. Obviously there things like that causes not to have cycles as well but women's hormones are meant to give us a cycle every month so my book is really delving into embracing that cycle While also learning about it and how are nutritional needs change. Our extra sides needs change. What we need from sex in our partners our relationships our jobs change it kind of goes into everything really And it's it's funny because I created this book to help other people that at the same time while writing it I was still healing in those aspects of my own life and correcting the myself and learning myself and it's been a really cool journey and something that I just love exploring and sharing with other people and it's just kind of cool that it really was truly kind of this like divine download intervention prevention. Like this is what you need to do so was really cool knowing that that was like exactly what I needed to do and knowing that it would be so helpful and beneficial to other women. Oh my Gosh Blair. I have so many questions this I loved that story. That's so amazing. And I never thought about how we eat as being like more masculine or feminine and it makes sense like what you're saying. Masculine is very like logical and restrictive and by the bug. And I'm assuming you know Feminine Energy in terms of food. It's more intuition base. Am I going right way. Yeah exactly call call and only I. I love the full story or full download during your meditation. I I swear in every episode meditation comes up and hitting me in the But I I'm I'm definitely a Newbie and I'm happy to say I finally paid for Hud Space and I've been doing ten minutes a day so you're just like her her roofing. Everyone's point like meditation is the key to like everything it's it's just funny because is it comes up in every conversation clearly. Like someone's trying to hit you on the head with this is what you needed your life. The universe I swear absolutely. It's funny being in holistic space. You know as a holistic nutritionist. I don't just talk about food. I'm you know it's whole body whole lifestyle everything. Everything and I would always talk about meditation. It wasn't something I did until I believe three three years ago and I was just like man I suck at this. This fucking socks like I'm not doing it right because again. I was living in that like very perfectionist masculine energy and it was like nope can't do it. I'm done I'm out so kind of like you know you just have to take the diving. I paid and had a teacher actually like explain it to me And kind of help me get to the point. Where like Oh? This isn't something that like you can do right or wrong. and which is just a different experience for me at the time but it's cool to see like the tiny changes that happened over time. It's not like I know some people have like a really incredible transformational changes changes like almost immediately with meditation. And for me it's been like a kind of a slow build and and then I see these random little influences happening here in error or for my mom loves say that act more like I did when I was a child. So I'm like that's really cool. kind of like unwinding the stressors of growing up and being an adult salt and all that stress. So yeah I might be going down that similar path where it's not instant results by so you know it's everyone says it's good for you so I'm just holding out for the long term benefits but it's funny. You bring up like a child child-like state 'cause that's what we all should embrace. I mean that's just what I've heard and I would just love to play with that. Inner Child old little bit more water letter. Come out exactly. I know I think we can all take ourselves too seriously and I know I did for a long time and I'm like why. Why was I doing that? Life isn't it to be fun and playful. Also there's the craziest thunderstorm happening happening right now. It is I feel like the world is like ending outside. And I'm like just chatting with. We'll stay safe in Denver during the thunder storm listeners. If you hear something in the background it's The world -Unding. Yeah it's basically like Denver falling down my house sign. We need the rain. Cool everything down a little bit so Blair without you know giving away too much from your book. Are you able to touch on a little bit more about the connection between. I know this is like a big question but I guess like the connection between food and our cycles like I just never would've like put the two together but it makes sense. 'cause those are like you know we're putting food in our bodies and then women monserate so can. Can you just like touch a little bit at a high level about that connection. Yeah absolutely So I think this is really really cool. It's something that I wish that we all learned. I feel like our cycles. Even as women like this is something that happens to our body every month like for years and years and years and we don't seem I'm to totally like get what's going on so I just absolutely love talking about it and just talk about like the food aspects. There's so many different things that go into you. Mentioned food is medicine earlier and I think this is one of the most beautiful ways of seeing food as medicine how it relates to our cycle women. It's it's complicated but also really cool that we change so much over a month for men. Their hormonal cycle is twenty four hours so a lot of diet and exercise these programs that are geared towards weight loss results are getting cut or whatever it is mostly around weight loss. Let's be honest are geared towards men because their hormonal cycles are pretty simple. So like intermittent fasting Kito Weight watchers any of these diets are mostly like tested on men. And I'm sure there's some listeners. Who totally get this? Maybe you do. Who have had partners in the past where for a brother or a dad or whatever it is in you embark on some type of Weight training together and men just seem to drop weight like they're like I just did one soda. Turn a day and everything. Everything happens for them in for women. It's it is quite a bit more complicated Because our hormone cycle is twenty eight ish days long depending on the person so things change for us and it can be different And I think that's like a huge problem. In the dieting. Nutrition exercise world is following more like what works for men and not what works for women. So I think it's really really important like I can't say they had enough to understand how different we are at the same thing that works for them isn't going to work for us. And since it takes a whole month for for us to go through our cycle it takes quite a bit longer to balance out hormones in a way that will allow us to shift into a more fat burning mode As opposed to men so all of that being said one of the coolest things that I like to talk about for how food can be used. Throughout the menstrual cycle is in seed cycling. Seat cycling is cycling. Your seed so rotating seeds throughout the month. `and based on where you arguments drill cycle so quickly. I'll just tell you that there are four sections in your menstrual cycle. There's menstruation when you were bleeding after after that you go into your phase then ovulation and then you go onto your face. Throughout each of those periods of your cycle cycle. Your hormones are changing and for people with like a Menorah or uneven cycles seed. Cycling can be a huge helper because the seeds in consumer actually having the precursors for the hormones that you need during that portion of your cycle so the four exceeds that you cycle concede cycling are Pumpkin. Seeds flax seeds sesame seeds and sunflower seeds. So for the first half of your cycle which is menstruation menstruation. And when you're bleeding and then directly after that the flicker phase so about days one through fourteen you want to increase estrogen because estrogen is building to thicken your uterine lining and the seeds Pumpkin and flax seeds. Have the precursors uses to help these estrogen. So then the second half of your cycle you WANNA increase PA- gesture on so you switch into sesame seeds and some bar seeds. which have the precursors to help you produce more gesture on? So that's just like one really really cool way of seeing how food can truly eighty medicine because you can actually help facilitate hormone production just by consuming certain seeds at specific times. I literally have have all those seeds in my cabinet like. Yeah if it's super cool and and the thing is it's one of those things is that like working with clients. Some women like literally will not have a cycle or super uneven cycle or they have pizzas and they just never know what's going on they'll see title for a month and it has made the world of difference in it fix everything in there like Holy Shit. That's literally. I ate a tablespoon of two different seeds every day and for other people. That's not you know that doesn't fix everything and there are other approaches that you have to take. But I think that's a just like a really cool one to see exactly how food can be medicine and how we are able to utilize specific foods to help us throughout our cycle and help support word our bodies I could go on and on and on you want me to keep talking about the different kids you can eat but I think that's a really cool one. That's a little bit. That's pretty the simple. I love that. It's not super complicated. It's easy to follow and I know that you saw that you know it. It's not like one size fit it all. It's not the solution but it's it. Sounds like an easy way to star and just that balancing of your hormones. This's Mrs Moore so a question for me but I'm sure you know there's listeners out there who might be in a similar situation I have a a copper IUD. So I haven't had my Montreal cycle in. I don't I don't even know Owens last time I had it. So can you speak to balancing hormones. One for women that don't get their periods because of that type of birth control. Yeah so the copper. IUD You still are oscillating and you're still producing hormones so with the copper IUD You well with any type of birth control you can still follow Cycle sinking principles. That's what I call it cycle sinking kind of gearing your life towards your menstrual cycle. So if you're in the way that I typically have people do this is by following the moon which I really just wish more women knew this because like really like this is how fucking cool amazing our bodies our like. Our menstrual cycles are literally lined up with the Moon. I was actually at a comedy show about a month ago in the guy like had that in his bit is like Super Intelligent. Crazy smart Hilarious dude actually. He was like like women. Bleed the fucking full moon like you guys are which is like what the hell. How do you guys not think like how are you not running the world? You literally literally year bodies are that connected with what's going on in the universe and I'm like yeah so true like why don't we think this is cool as shit like I don't know so But yeah so. That's all that being said you can use the moon cycle as a way to Follow the cycle sinking principles roles as well as sea witches including seed cycling by using the moon and so most people follow what is called the. Es White Moon Cycle and not means that you are menstruating on the new moon. So when you're not seeing a moon at all and then your oscillating on the full moon some people are the opposite but and the opposite is called the Red Moon Cycle But if you are trying to follow these principles symbols you can just use the moon as your guide and for women that then eventually get off hormonal birth control. Or let's say you get your copper. Ud taken out you. You want to get pregnant it can make it easier Once you're coming off of hormonal contraceptives or the copper. IUD THOUGHT MASONS UH-HUH I'm Moina Star following the moon. Now I love that idea. 'CAUSE I for me I've just been like well. I haven't had main periods so it out the window but my body is like I. It's still has to be like working. Yeah Justin in a different way because of the copper IUD Blair. I have another big question for you so obviously like it. Seems like the the answer's yes like. We should be balancing our hormones but when they're not in balance I guess like what can manifest. What are those like signs and symptoms that our bodies are out of whack? Yeah so some pretty obvious ones are pos which a lot of women are now being being diagnosed with because it's a lot more common and there's more knowledge that hey this exists PCS is a big one a Minneriya which is when you have no cycle. So you're not bleeding at all and again this would be if you're not on. Birth Control and endometriosis is another one. These are like some pretty common imbalances dances that are diagnosed. So those are like very obvious signs of hormonal imbalance but there are other signs as well so I can kind go over. Those and acting is typically a sign of some type of hormonal imbalance. especially if it's around your Chin and mouth so sometimes times. This is just that. We're not detoxing estrogen properly. So our estrogen is too high in in the second half of our cycle So focusing on our detox pathways in foods that are going to help new estrogen out of the system. Actually that's what. A lot of the symptoms come from fatigue haire loss like any type of foggy brain anxiety depression. Any of those things are also going to be hormonal imbalances and ended facial hair What else let's see what I'm not saying? Poor sleep weight gain. I feel like it's literally like everything and then actually actually cramps cramps around your cycle not necessarily like a whore Aleka hormone imbalance. But we think that you know L. having really bad. Ems is totally normal and getting really crappy as normal and you know getting really sad during that time. I'm in having these mood swings a super normal. And that's actually a sign of like a slight imbalance. It may not be anything crazy but there are things that you can do to help balance aunts. Your hormones So that you're not being like debilitated by your cycle every single month. Yeah I think that's been so normalized that we don't even. I think that is a symptom of a potential imbalance anymore. We just think that we're supposed to be like miserable. And Wow like when you are on your cycle all your energy is going to be lower like you are going to feel a little bit different because all of your hormones are at their lowest point. It doesn't need to be this like super miserable experience. I'm that Emoji with the had. Because you're so right it's been. Normalize is that women on our periods. or at least like when we're menstruating like it's normal to have cramps and to be like it kind of bitchy or just like Moody. What we can say is oh? My hormones are imbalanced. It sounds like we can say that moving thing forward inside and that kind of Lake makes me angry that we've been taught at least like I've been taught that it's it's normal to experience those types of symptoms. Yeah and I and I think it is important to like normalize it in a sense to. I know that you're not alone but it's also really important to understand our bodies and know that we do have symptoms such as that around ministration the station. There are things that we can do to fix that so that we don't just think that that's a curse that we're constantly that we have to deal with. We need to like think of it as something something that we can like make not maybe not enjoyable but like definitely more enjoyable experience and kind of embrace it. That's that's that's been a big thing for me because I because of the cramps and because we're bleeding and the time periods that we've you know heard about our entire lives we do kind of feel like it's this really miserable time of the month and it's something that we don't want to talk about and we're emotional. Aw and like men in an like thinking of women being in power positions like oh but their emotional around their periods of like what are they gonNa do not be able to make decisions during my time of the month. You know. It's like this whole crazy taboo and I just went off on a total tangent on that but it is important to know that like we. We don't have to be in that and there are things that we can do to alleviate those symptoms but also still learn to embrace that part of the cycle as more the time of rest and as time to like added more self care and like fucking enjoy that you know like for me. It's become this thing where it's like. Yeah that may not be the most enjoyable part of the month and a m a little bit more tired. I'm this I'm not but I'm like cool. I'm going to schedule a massage and a facial because I'm supposed to be having some self care at this time nine this is like my built in reminder that it's time for more self care and like maybe you know I don't need to go like workout and kick my ass in the gym today and it's actually beneficial for me. Okay and not to. I know that's a long tangent but I just like that. It's such a taboo. Yeah Yeah and I love that spin on it you know at one it is quote that time which I'm just trying to say like when I'm when I have my period you know if I were to get it instead of like coming up with like you know those names to cover it up like now. Let's just call it what it is but yeah I love that Lake Scheduling self-care and like totally spinning at doing a one eighty and like doing something for yourself during that time and also Blair. I think you made a good point of that. We should embrace you know when we may be experiencing that hormonal imbalance islands. Because I know for me like even though I haven't been getting my regular period like one I do get that hormonal acne on my jaw line inside of like focusing on it and like putting on my mental energy to it which I'm sure the stress is not helping me Out at all. I'm like no it just means I'm going to be drinking. OUGHTA water and like making shopping. My skin care routine and like I'll take care of it and like fuck it like you know. My skin isn't perfect. But I'M GONNA deal with exactly and that's actually like another her like you bring up such a great point of embracing that and being okay with it because a lot of so. This is something that people say is that For Women Administration is our fifth vital. Sign so truly like what's going on near body when you menstruate like the color of your blood the texture texture of your blood isn't clotting like all of these things actually tell you so much about your body. They can tell you if you are high in Estrogen Estrin if your questions too high which is super super cool and the same thing with acne like if acnes popping up? It's telling you that there's some type of imbalance and it's a way for you. It's it's your body literally speaking to you in a very obvious way that like we hate and don't want to see but it's like Oh okay I'm breaking out so what. What do I need to reassess like drinking more water? Yes it's like. What did I eat in the past few days are in this month or am? I super stressed this month. And it kind of gives you that chance to reevaluate you. You know those aspects of your life when we could just like continue going on so it is. It's really important to shifts at conversation You you know about your period and around symptoms like acne fatigue depression anxiety and kind of being like. Oh this is this is actually eh my body telling me something not like screw this. This is making me like uncomfortable at work. Like I'm having to miss work so I'm sick or you know. Oh like the list goes on and on if you can embrace it and see it as you know a way to reconnect with your body. More Super Helpful. Yeah absolutely and I know for me when I got my recent break cow. I consumed this cheese at my friends. Like little little get together and so on. I did get the like huge pimples. It I was like Nope I know where that came from. So you know Blair you talked a lot about how The Montrose Cycle. So and I brought up like oh I had a night where I ate a ton of dairy which I typically avoid so for your work Do Look at the whole picture like in those situations I am. I am not sure to quiz you but I guess like for myself. Do you think that you know that recent breakout. It was it tight to my period or or I guess like you know what's going on with my hormones or is that you know because I I had a ton of cheese I I have. I haven't gotten tested for any food. intolerances I'm just like I read that I shouldn't be eating dairy so I'm going to avoid that. Yeah so could be a multitude of things it could be your hormones but it it definitely just have been eating dairy for some people. They can eat dairy all day. It's not going to phase them for other people you know you will get a pimple or two if you consume a lot of dairy okay If you were eating cheese and wine because that's everybody's favourite Combo like maybe it was the combination of both you know like a little bit more tax taxing on the liver from processing the alcohol but also maybe Dairy just doesn't totally agree with you and not doesn't mean that like you're lactose. You know we get so caught up in these food roles of like. I shouldn't eat dairy. I shouldn't eat gluten. I shouldn't eat that and it's like okay. Maybe maybe that doesn't doesn't support your body in the best way but if you are out with your friends or your your grandmother major your favorite birthday cake like it. They think it's so important to live in balance wants and be able to consume things in moderation. As long as they're not gonNA make you like deathly ill like if you're sealing act. Do not eat gluten. But you know when when you're just like okay. I know eight cheese. I'm GONNA break out a little bit but in certain situations okay with that because I want to live my life you you actually probably won't be as affected by it because I think the combination of the stress of like should. I shouldn't eat this. which puts you in a stress response fight or flayed situation in which actually decreases your digestion? on top of maybe the cheese also not like working best the best for your body as opposed coast to another food You know that's GonNa create like even more symptoms because there's like that stress response involved in it and I know that's not like a simple answer but I think it is like so faceted. Yeah but also just keeping like a mental note like okay while if I go out how in eat a bunch of cheese the next time like am I going to break out again. Like Kinda you can usually see if there's a pattern over time. That's a really okay. Good point that you know we can kind of just like Tustin. Just see like okay if I am not going to use the word cheap but I guess if I eat something that is more of like a treat than and my body reacts in this way just making a note of that and I've thought I find your point so interesting about how stressing about what we're eating affects side just it are digestion and that in turn is just going to get our body out of whack and you talk a little bit more about the cause I actually I having had that type of conversation before and I'd love to learn more. Oh Yeah Okay and so you have the Para sympathetic and sympathetic. Nervous systems dumps the scientific names but we can just call them. The fighter flight arrested Digest State so so rest digest is where we want to be when we are consuming food and really want to be in that state you know like ninety nine percent one of the time that is where we are meant to live basically is in this rest digest. Stay where our body he is able to create digestive juices and properly digested assembly food. And just like that's a stress. Free Life like that is is where we should be ninety nine percent of the time on the other hand fighter flight we have that response to protect us from from lions and like crazy shit. That happened way back. You know when we were hunter gatherers that we don't deal with anymore so now we use this fighter flight state pretty much every fucking day when we're at work. We get stressed out by like are permanent calling us back a fight that we got in like stressful situation at work. We stay in it almost all the time and like modern society. Which is why people talk about meditation so much because it brings you back to that rest and digest state I'm a fighter. Fight basically is stopping digestive Like digestive juices from secreting and it changes your body temperature. Basically shuts things down so all of your energy can be used to flee situation. So we're sending all all of the Adrenalin into your muscles to make you move to get out of the situation so you are not going to be digesting food properly in that estate because your body has shut down That portion of your body because it's not needed when you're trying to run from a tiger but again unfortunately like modern in society we're staying in that state and kind of unable to get out of it. I love that you know Rust and Digest. I I haven't heard of that phrase but I think that's something good to keep in mind because I know for myself at my corporate job I e two of my aim meals at my breakfast and my lunch at my desk which is probably not the best way to eat you know in front of my work. Computer and Mike China multitask and I've heard like a recommendation before. The you know you should not ea- in front of a screen Well you know a work computer but probably also a TV and that totally makes sense. And maybe that's why after certain. Sometimes I eat I get a little tummy ache. Yeah definitely I mean it. It's interesting when you start noticing those ships like you're like okay. Hey I'm going to take a few deep breaths before this meal. There's something called the relaxation breath or five seven eight breath which is a really really easy way to get into the rest Jijel state so like in modern like we all can't have like a perfect our for each meal. Where like nothing's going going on except we're listening to a waterfall and birds chirping? You know like there is an ideal perfect world and we don't live in it. We live in a modern world and so finding ways to drop into that space. Even if you are having to eat your lunch at your desk like I know for me. There are times where I end up eating a snack or food in the car. And I'm like is this ideal. No I literally teach people not to do this but I can say to myself okay. This is not ideal. I'm eating my car or I am eating at my desk at work. How can I bring myself into arrested? Digest stay even if it's not optimal so something like relaxation station breath. Five seven eight breath where you inhale for five seconds hold the breath for seven seconds and then exhale for eight it brings you into that state So that's that's I guess super simple way to like drop into it quickly and even just like that. Mindfulness of saying okay like this is an optimal for me to be eating at at my desk at work but I can still in my brain be like this is my time for eating and this is my time for me and I'm going to like bring my attention and focus their bring my attention to like the colors on my plate and how much food tastes in how much I'm chewing as opposed to. Oh just sitting at your desk in eating mindlessly kind of like shoving it in your mouth so even if it's not optimal you can still kind of check in and like use your brain to bring you back into a more optimal state without even moving your environment. Yeah no I love that like like you said we. It's life isn't perfect. We can't always you know. Walk away from the computer. Life is demanding. But I think like that's such such an easy tip just to get us to that more of that rust and digest stay. So thank you for sharing that tapper. Do you have any other tips for. Let's let's call it the modern woman you know Nine to five job working out after work and having a social life. Do you have any other tips for her. Yeah so I love this question again. I I mentioned this a moment ago but it is. We don't live in this perfect world and I think especially really with instagram and like influencers and people in the health scene we see these like perfect depictions of how to be healthy like getting a massage every weak link getting in your infrared sauna and like fucking have an infrared sauna. I love that Shit but that is that something that everybody has no. That's something that I like. Made a priority great wonderful full but you know our typical everyday American. Modern woman can't live this like Buji crazy lifestyle. I style like most people are working nine to five jobs without a ton of flexibility. So I think it's really important to know that like your your if you are The modern woman working nine to five or you have a totally different schedule. You can make your schedule and your life optimal for your health. It doesn't have to look like this picture. Perfect thing that we see on instagram. Or that we hear about from like a health guru so all that being said I think one of the most important things that every woman should do especially considering during intermittent fasting is becoming such a popular topic right now is not falling intermittent fasting and actually eating breakfast. A lot of people have Blood sugar imbalances in dysfunction which causes that is part of your hormonal systems so that can wreak havoc on your hormones throughout the month throughout the day and just be really like not great without getting too crazy into just eating breakfast us every day. There are certain times of the month where it's even more important but it's just super important to start with a blood sugar balancing meal that is higher in fat shot and higher in Protein To keep your blood sugar levels balanced and steady throughout the day so that you're not crashing in the afternoon so that's like something that's suber symbolic wake up. Make yourself breakfast. Maybe you wake up thirty minutes earlier so that you have a full thirty minutes to enjoy your breakfast. Maybe you you take five to ten minutes on heads face or just breathing stretching to start your day off in a way. That's not stressful. And then fueling fuelling your body with good nutrients. Obviously that may not happen every single day but thirty minutes is nothing so like scheduling killing an extra thirty minutes in the morning to decrease stress and start your day with like a balanced meal. That's going to make you feel good is GonNa like make you feel more confident. Can't throughout the day plus you're literally going to have energy and feel better. That is probably like the number one thing that I work on with clients and I know these tips are so freaking some bull but water is the next one making sure you're drinking enough water so at least half of your body weight announces of water probably more probably more like one point five times or sorry like seventy five percent of what. Your Body Weight is I know this is something that like gets beat. Never had all the time to drink water but it like. I can't even describe how important it is so. That's another Super Uber. Simple one for more fun ones. I think everyone should meditate too. I think it's super helpful. Seaver full finding meantime in your and even if you're meditation is a ten minute walk at lunch finding time every single day that is like just for you and that doesn't feel force like I know a lot of US workout And maybe a lot of the listeners are like think that that's so important in like they. They think that as their time but they're kind of forcing themselves to go work out. That's not beer like meditation or your time to yourself like truly cut out like if you workout. But it's not like I don't know the activity you're doing doesn't really feel like Super Meditative nourishing for you Then fine find something something else. Maybe you knit for ten minutes a day. And it's like you know what that really sends me. How and makes me feel good finding those little gaps in the day to do some some type of like meditative Work that just makes you feel more at peace Let's see the other fun ones breakfast. Water some type of meditative movement and those could be those could be the ones that we work with and I think that as you saw Blair they are easy to follow. It's just a matter of implementing implementing them into our lifestyle and I know I like the last one you mentioned with making time to move our bodies. He's that's something I'm working on and Yeah sometimes like we hear. Oh you have to try this fitness trend Trond and it's like sometimes it does feel force in the first some people. It could be their thing but I. It can't be everyone's saying so. I think it's just a matter of finding like what you said. What puts you in that zone boat? Yeah exactly and I do think and get super important like I was saying like these are really like simple things that don't sound that extraordinary but to make lasting changes that we're actually actually going to stick with every single day. They need to be simple like an honestly like health and feeling good. Should be really simple. We over complicate things so much much with all the different Diet trends workout trends. When it's really just simple like give yourself water feed yourself real food and move your body Audie in a way that feels good to you makes you happy like it really can just be pretty simple to follow a ketogenic Dieter Paleo Diet or be Vegan Vegetarian Attari inner PESCA? -Tarian like you don't have to create rules around Your food your exercise or your body to feel good and I know we're almost time this flew by but I have one quick question to a non and I'm GonNa put you on the spot Since you are a natural Schaaf what is the one recipe you recommend from your website. What should we all try right? Like what is your favorite. Maybe you have a couple but I do have a couple okay. Well we're going to pick a fun though because this is one. I like all time favorite dessert. I'm not a huge dessert person. I don't like super sweet things. I'm like definitely savory. I'm like give me a piece of bread bread with a ton of butter on it and like a pinch of salt you you you have to share a sweet one though because I have a sweet tooth so at least give me one desert also. Let's see real sweet ones or more fun. There is a dark chocolate flour cake recipe. That's on on my blog that I'm really really obsessed with because that is my all time favorite desserts. It's not super sweet and it's it's probably one of my favorite recipes. ps I like make it for everybody's birthday actually has cauliflower in it. which sounds crazy? Yeah so you're like actually getting some vegetables so it's a little bit of an recipe. It's so good and you can put it in the freezer afterwards and like eat at like fudge. It's just it's a really good one Another really fun desert one. Is these rob berry bars. And they're literally just made with coconut in Berries But they taste like cheesecake desert amazingness. Yeah those are two really good ones thank you. I looked through your recipes. Pictures are beautiful and they I. I'm just so excited to make these two. They definitely jumped out at me saw Thank you for sharing that Blair and like I said this best flew by so fast. I truly enjoyed our conversation Blair. Thank you so much for joining me. I would love for. Are you to share with the listeners. Where they can find you to find your recipes like goddess skied? All the good stuff in your coaching. I love for you to share all of the things. Yeah of course so the name of my instagram and website. I know people find in this little bit confusing because apparently rendezvous is hard to sell So it's holistic rendezvous dot com on instagram. It's holistic rendezvous. It was well. It's spelled Rynd as this with a Z.. O. You can find me there or look at my name. Blair Horton The Yeah I a post recipes all the time a the goddess guide is obviously on there and I do nutrition consulting as well. Yeah come say hi to me lies happy to have new people around and make new friends yes feed is so beautiful you have such high quality holiday photos it is. It's it's it would be a fun follow listeners. Things like on Blair and to the listeners. Thank thank you for listening. If this conversation resonated with you I encourage you to share it with a friend to keep the inspiration flowing and as as I mentioned at the top while. You're on your phone. Do me a super quick favor and do the whole rate review and subscribe as always you can then email me at. I tried a podcast at G. Mail DOT COM and connect on instagram at. I tried to podcasts. Thanks so much for listening tune in next week to hero. I tried it.

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James Nestor | The Power of Water and Breath

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James Nestor | The Power of Water and Breath

"The kid growing up in Orange County California James. Nestor had a love affair with the notion he'd find himself in the water surfing pretty much every day. Or every chance he could and it was his happy place where the world would vanish away. He would settle into that hyper present of flow or bliss which is pretty fascinating because decades later now living as a writer in San Francisco that deep passion for the water and the state that brought him to has never left him in fact it led eventually to an obsession with the rarefied sport and culture of free diving where people train themselves to dive so fast and deep into the ocean holding their breath that the pressure literally transforms their physiology and brains into something entirely different as the light fades from the water. This led to his book deep where he didn't just about free divers but also became one and that then spiralled into a powerful fascination with how free divers are somehow mysteriously accepted into the mystical underwater sanctuary of the world's largest mammals and that eventually led to a more recent fascination with breathing. And how the way? We breathe which has been largely ignored by modern medicine. Barring treatment for pulmonary illness how it's actually one of the most powerful gateways to health longevity peace of mind even transcendent states and he shares all of his discoveries now years of research in his latest book breath the new science of a lost art we dive into all of this including some things that are really going to invite you to completely reexamined how you read and why and how it might unlock some powerful things in your own life so excited to share this conversation with you. I'm Jonathan fields and this is good life good. 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Good life and join the over. Eight hundred thousand people taking charge of their mental health with the help of inexperienced professional and as a special offer for good life project listeners. You'll get ten percent off your first month at better help dot com slash good life. It sounds like a common theme in your life really has been a fierce obsession with Canada. Two things how things work and also the water. Just a lifelong attraction to the water. I think that's true to to a large extent you now growing up in the OC in Orange County. A lot of people think or at least they have this perception that southern California's this dreamland of convertibles and beaches and all that but you know the the area in Orange County in which I grew up in Tustin extremely conservative place. I mean it's it's really equivalent to to Texas in many ways so it was interesting to be surrounded by this perception of free loving. You Know Beach Vibe Care Free No worries and then also be within this place which was so obsessed with worrying about everything you know extremely conservative on on every level interesting dichotomy to navigate. Especially when you're when you're young a teenager. Yeah where did you fall in that spectrum because I think also when people think about who's the kid who's in the water all the time who's the surfer they think about the hypocrite. The the free loving kid but my guess is if you sat on a wave you know an and you had two hundred people out there on any given day you're GonNa get a cross section of the entire Expand of WHO's in that area. Oh I think just everybody went to the beach. I mean that was really the only thing to do the summers down. There suffocatingly hot now. Hundred ten sometimes so every single day I will get a pocketful of change and take the bus the beach with my friends. We'd stay out there all day. We come back in the evening. Wake up and do it again so you did have an incredible cross section of people. I mean every walk of life. Everyone was out there all the time and being that I didn't grow up on the beach. Grew up fifteen miles from it. That meant I was an outsider. Not Not a local at thirty second street so that was always interesting to navigate. But you know I found once you're in the water everybody becomes a lot more equal. It depends how respectful you are. How good you are surfing or swimming in. All of that really fades away. There's any any mark of status the car you you're driving or or your watch or whatever you don't have that on the water so it's a great equalizer in a lot of ways. Yeah I mean. I have a lot of friends who are lifelong surfer. Some who grew up around there some who grew up. Actually a more a little bit Southlake Sandiego Swami's growing up and And to the one you know. They depending no matter how they started out. They've all kind of said the same thing it is it is the great equalizer and also you know there's also they're very there's a culture around it were there. There's a very specific set of rules that you live by and that you respect and if you disrespect the rules or the people within that system you pay the price met. That's completely true with the crowd out there from a human standpoint and it's true from a natural standpoint you know you have to respect the rules of the ocean and if you think you're too good or if you think you're going to circumvent them in some way you're going to get thrown down in some very serious ways. That's what I also liked about it. So much is there. Were a different set of rules that to me made a lot more sense than the rules on land. The rules on the ocean were applied to everybody again beyond status or anything else and they just seemed a lot more fair. You know these. These are the rules of the of the wild in many respects and you have to abide. It's interestingly it's sort of like the ultimate merit based ecosystem right and there's no cronyism on the waves. It's true I mean this cronyism be between the people the surfers out there. But there's that only lasts so long because then your friends are. GonNa go in and then you're out there alone and that to me is always the most wonderful part of being in the C is for one reason or the other when people get bored. The waves aren't good or it's too late or it's too early. No one else is out there. And you're alone in this wilderness. And and that's what attracts me to San Francisco so much people don't think of San Francisco's a great surfing beach because it isn't so don't come here anybody but it's it's it's still very very wild and you can still find a peak all your around who no one around and really have that connection. Yeah it teaches you how to be with yourself and it also teaches you a lot of people think about surfing like well you just out there riding waves all day long New York. They're waiting for waves all day long. And you you pick up a couple awesome you pick up one or two killer runs like dance good day and it's it's such a different mindset than the average mindset about how he pursue life almost wonder if it's instills in US sort of a different approach to the pursuit of what you want from a younger age. Think it I think it. Does you know there was one. I don't know who it was some famous surfer. That who said no one who surfs all the time that he knew of had psychologists or psychiatrists so maybe either because these. These people were to deranged or because they already had their stop together. Go out there and and surf everyday. I don't know the reason but I think that there is a certain truth to that and certainly the people that I know who are religiously connected to the ocean. They seem not to have So much feeling of a burden. On the stresses of life on land and. I certainly feel a release every single time. I'm out there. Which is why I go pretty crazy. After a few weeks I am not able to get in the water so you know I I think that there is. There's those two elements were were terrestrial people where we evolved on the land and yet when we go back to the ocean we go back to our very earliest roots of before we were people and as Corny as that may sound. I really think that there's a strong connection that you feel that your body feels and resonates with you when you're out in the yeah now completely agree. I actually am. I grew up just outside of New York City. The end of my block was a beach I will I was bay. Not Ocean we were. We were out there waterskiing and fishing instead of surfing but it was that to this day. It's the place where I go to touchstone in is the place where I go just. I don't have to be in the water. I can just be sitting on dock or walking along the beach. But there's there's a down regulation of my nervous system and my state of being. That happens just being in the context of water. That is so hard for me to find anywhere else. And that's that's all measurable it's not just psychosomatic. It's this is stuff that has been measured time and time again of how the body reacts to either being in the water or by the water which is why seventy what is it. Seventy eighty percent of the population lives within thirty minutes of a coast. You know I think that that's we do that for a reason because we have that that connection that now completely agree on the other end of that. I have a friend who is Big Wave Surfer She grew up sort of Irish surfing royalty with her her her dad and uncle or grandfather you know she's. East Ski Britain spent on the as a couple of years. Back would surf on this. Pinger or pink. Helmet is five feet tall surfing these waves. That are ten times the size of her. And it's amazing to hear her. Describe the experience of you the way she has as you can't be afraid you have to have the absolute respect for the power of what you're embracing but you have to move to a place beyond fear or else it's over and it it's really interesting training ground to take it to that space as well. I think it's extremely advanced to get your mind to to be thinking that way and that's something that resonates with almost all activities on the water whether you're sailing across the open sea or whether you're diving you know you can't free dive with with fear in your heart. You're you're going to go down ten feet and turn around so it almost gets to the point where you have to become delusional in in your own self worth in your confidence in order to do some of this stuff and that's to me. What separates the people who who last in in these sports and in who don't is there context of where they fit in and knowing their level of just the tipping point of their level where they can make it where they might not make it be able to understand and respect. That is really the key the key. Yeah and at the same time you were talking about an environment. Where every time you step into that next threshold the stakes go up. You know and Pretty Soon. The stakes are life and death. Seven is the ultimate training ground. Basically for sure and and to me. That's in many ways is what makes it so much more real there's there's so much padding around or at least we've created in our in our society. Now you know even playgrounds or completely padded they have sand or they have that weird colorful padding stuff that there's there's much less risk in doing. Thanks on land but I view that a lot of that goes out the window when you when you enter into the ocean because we just don't have those yet there's you know some flotation devices. Some of those surfers vast. But those are only for big way people. If you're the regular Joe when you're just going out to the sea to you in a board and even if your body surfing it's just you you and a pair of fins in you need to figure it out at least in in San Francisco a lot of other beaches. There's no lifeguards either. So you have to understand that and be cognizant of it the the entire time you're out there especially if the waves are big and in know your limits the whole time and know that balance and to me. That's what really centers things is. Then you get in your car and you've got airbags seatbelts and then you drive home and you get a flat tire you've got AAA. There's none of that out out in the in the ocean. There's there's no one to call except you know your your inner strength and and your own relationship with with yourself and your abilities. Yeah that's such an interesting frame because if you think about probably the most intrinsically rewarding moments of life are also the moments where we are most present in what we're doing and then you you think about what you just described. You know when when you step in the water you have to be there. There's it's not about like it because if you're not GONNA get tossed around. He may end up in a bad place. But as soon as you step out of that environment into the car with the protection to life with the protection we can basically pay to buy enough protection to not have to be present in almost every other part of our lives and you wonder on one hand. What are we actually buying ourselves into and out of? That's I completely agree with that. Like even having a phone conversation checking email checking twitter and checking instagram. We constantly padded if the phone conversations boring we have all these other means to entertain ourselves but but in the ocean again that that really goes out the window. And it's that it's that safety net you know coming loose from you that I find so so liberating and I think that's another reason why when you're surfing or when you're swimming you're or bodysurfing freedom of whatever you were in that exact moment you're not thinking when you're on a wave maybe when you're waiting for ways for half an hour you're thinking about work and all that. I've come up with my best ideas in those situations but when you're actually on a wave when you're within this activity you are locked in to that microseconds of a moment the entire way and I think that that absolute focus and present at least in in my life a lot of other people I know. is really lacking you know. We're not going out and hunting for food now. We have to be locked into that moment. When is the right time to or at least a lot of people aren't hunting their food But I think that this is something that that allowed. Humans to evolve is to have pure and utter focus on a moment and so much society now is built on not having that focus now so agree with that for Longtime Mountain. Biking was was my jam in my life and there was a time where actually I rode from grandson. Colorado to Moab Utah on the Coca Pelletrau. Which is this at least the way that I did. It was was really. There's only one direction that you go in the entire time. You're on the edge of falling off into the abyss and it was grueling and psychologically taxing physically taxing and more of the most incredible experiences in my life simply because the nature of the activity demanded that you ha- you cannot be anywhere but there and I feel like the more whether you get through the water where they go through nature. Whatever is the the thing that you choose? I mean I think we would all be better off had bringing more of that into our lives. You you referenced earlier free diving which I want to explore a little bit You grooten group in the OC End Up in the world of advertising. Copywriting start freelance writing on the side. You get into the of magazines because that's start to realize writing is your jam at and eventually find yourself writing full-time different magazines. Doing long form pieces short-form pieces and at some point you get a Gig to cover this thing called free diving I guess it was for outside. Magazine was the first time that's right. Tell me how that unfolds and then what what is the experience that comes out of that yes so a couple years before that happened. I had always following. You know the good rules laid out in the. Oh see I had followed this. Very linear path. You know you could high school go to college get a job get a house. Get Your Car. Get your dog all of that and you know. I was still writing on the side just because it was something I was really passionate about by day was writing copying ads and catalogs and all that stuff but at night is when I would do freelance magazine writing. I never thought I could make a living doing it. I mean it was sketchy back then. And it's even more sketchy now but finally. I just came to this moment where I had been working at this one place extremely easy job and good pay assistant and stuff but I remember it my four year review. My boss sat me down and he told me exactly what he told me. It is thirty year review and exactly same thing with the second year. And that's when I I quit at that moment and it wasn't really premeditated and so I kinda flounder. Who wasn't sure what I was going to do but I knew I didn't want to do that. So I really felt this fork in the road from that. Oc Life to this other very wild life where Nothing was planned. Everything had to be improvised. So after a couple of years writing magazine pieces things were starting to pick up a little bit not enough to make me comfortable at all. A friend mentioned. Hey have you ever heard of free diving in a note that this is really hard for people people to believe? But I hadn't even though I had spent my whole life by the ocean Surfing and swimming I didn't spend too much time below the surface but I had never heard of free diamond. Had never actually seen it so I said Oh. This sounds like an interesting subject. Right right up my alley. I wrote my editor at outside said it so happens to be in a couple of weeks. There's this international free diving competition in Greece. I thought there was no way. This guy's GonNa send me out Greece about a subject. I knew nothing about but I guess the the pitch was good enough for intriguing enough that a week later he said okay. You're on so Without knowing much about this the sport at all without knowing any of the players I went to Greece. And that's when a completely different fork in the road started in my life and another door opened a when I saw the first free diver take a single breath of air and upturn his body. No fins know anything and completely disappear into a crystal clear ocean and he was gone for five minutes. Came back up and he just dove three hundred feet and I had never seen anything like that and I didn't think it was possible at all and yet the next person showed up to the same thing even lower next person even lower than that so that first day out there was I. This is such a cliche phrase but it was it was life defining and life changing for me because I realized that there was a completely different side of nature and the ocean which I thought I knew and I you know I was standing right in the middle of it. And the beating. Heart of of this activity knew nothing about. In so many ways it looked like interstellar travel. You know if you were to flip the globe upside down. These people were floating off into this blue space. No gravity know anything else in coming back and you know touching down to the to the sailboat. That was out there so it absolutely fascinated me and I called my editor that night. I was like Oh my God. This thing is just absolutely nuts. He was very excited about it. And that's really where things started in that direction and we're talking about people basically just in the water. There's no tanks. There's no anything it's just them. It's just strength training. Their bodies training the breast and then literally just starting to to dive straight down. Which is counterintuitive on so many levels for so many people can like well. A but the body floats. So how do you go that far down and I guess what you learn over time is at the first? What thirty feet or or you the body does what? But then the quality of the body composition starts to change and the pressure. That's put on it so that you become a lead way too deeply and you start to go down. That's that's exactly right and that's another thing that completely blew. My mind is a lot of these. People were wearing wetsuits because three hundred feet down. It's really cold doesn't matter if you're in a tropical climate to usually really cold down there so with a wet suit you're extremely buoyant. Any surfer knows this. You put on your wetsuit. And it's it's really hard to dive down even a few feet and so to watch these people you know in the first like fifteen feet twenty feet. They're kicking their swimming. They're putting themselves down. And then all of a sudden they just stop and instead of getting pulled up to the surface they start drifting effortlessly down deeper and deeper into the water until they're completely gone and I knew nothing about this and I learned later that it's that shift of buoyancy that occurs. What what I ended up calling the doorway to the deep other free divers of use that term as well in which the body stops getting pulled to the surface and starts getting pulled to the bottom. And you will just keep falling at that same rate as low as you WanNa go so it just adds this absolutely surreal aspect to to watching the especially in clearwater where you can watch these people just fade away into nothing and then come back and reemerge and be completely fine a couple things happen as you descend. Also one you lose light you know so at the top you can see them so them fading away into nothingness. Is You in part there? There's distance between your but also the light Ba- essentially leaves the borders so they're effectively in the pitch black. Which is I mean. It's got to be incredibly disorienting. Also I've done a little bit of scuba diving and my passion. We went night diving wants. This is years back on the Barrier Reef Ron Boat. You jump off. And we'll have these little torches and you know we're in pairs as long as they had the torch on. I can Orient Myself. But for those who don't know about scuba diving. You wear weight vest and that helps you become neutrally buoyant. So you're not floating up or down and I remember losing my torch and the light went out and it was pitch black. We were three hours off. The mainland was a dark night and I started to freak out because I didn't know whether to swim. Left right up or down to get back up to the surface. And this is that but amplified exponentially. Yeah just imagine if you're holding your breath in that situation and the these are people. These are the pros. Do this anyone that goes down. Forty fifty feet and most water. You're going to be able to see just fine. But it's not only the quality of the light that shifts also. The color of the light fades out the deeper. You go right so so reds and oranges are gonNA fade out around. You know maybe fifty seventy feet until it becomes this completely monochromatic world. So you're you're in a world of of grays and and blacks that's it that's all that's down there. Because light the frequencies of light can penetrate that that deep something else that happens beyond that is the body transforms. You become a terrestrial animal and you turn into a marine animal. And this isn't just a again some psychological transformation this is something that occurs within each of our bodies everyone has these abilities called the master switch of life or the Mammalian dive reflexes and what happens is instinctively instinctually. I should say your your heart rate is going to lower. Your brain is going to enter a meditative state all the blood from your extremities your hands your arms your legs. We're going to start pushing into your core to keep your organs alive and Plasmas is going to enter into your lungs to perfect to prevent them from collapsing. And you. You really become this different diving. Animal the deeper you go the more pronounced. All of these are reflexes. Become so by the time you've reached three hundred and four hundred feet. You know you you bear. Maybe a passing resemblance to your form in the terrestrial world and anyone can can experience this. You can go to a bathroom right. Now on splash cold water on your face in your heart. Rate's GonNa Lower probably about twenty twenty five percent just by doing that. These are the same reflexes that dolphins have. Whales have other Marine Mammals. Have that humans have them to Were connected to the ocean in the same way of these. These other animals just so few of us Ever use them or feel them nowadays so it almost it the environment forces your body into this transformed in almost meditative state and at neo part of it is also as you go down one atmosphere. Which is what about thirty thirty three feet when you start to go more and more with each new atmosphere going down the pressure on your body increases more and more and more so you're literally has to transform or else it will employ it into itself so you know for for years and years. Scientists thought the deepest human could go down. Would be one hundred feet is otherwise you're gonNA COLLAPSE. Your lungs are going to collapse. You're you're going to die. But they didn't know about the Maillane dive reflexes. So Greek divers have been diving to depths below that for for thousands of years. You know there's archaeological evidence of free diving. The goes back ten thousand years so so this is something that is innately part of who we are where we came from. So it's it's nothing that that is artificial of forced if you let yourself become re immersed in the water you're going to wake up all of these dormant reflexes that everybody has. That was something that I found most fascinating about free diving. The competitive side was interesting to see the limits of the body. But a lot of people didn't make their dives and that was awful. They did come out with bloody faces and it's pretty pretty horrific but luckily I discovered at that event this completely other side of free diving. That was much more nurturing. Almost like a meditation or yoga practice underwater. And that's the side that really went deep into and pursued. It sounds like there's almost a spiritual side to it and in fact I mean from a state of mind when you start to get down that de we talked about the physiological changes but what about the psychological changes the sort of big almost spiritual experiences. It's a force meditation and this is what any free diver will tell you. There's no way you can go out there. Worried and stressed out and breathe fast and then try to push yourself down there. You have to completely let go which means you need to let go of. Your thoughts need to relax your body. You need to submit to this. Larger thing that you're entering into so that was another aspect that really appealed to me is that you had to really leave everything on on land including your thoughts about land. Near stresses think about worker fly to whatever you have to leave that behind and just soak into that that moment that you're in the water you're surrounded by oceanic animals and you just let yourself be be free and let your body do what it's naturally designed to do. Which has dived deep? The As I guess has become a your mode of at a certain point. You can't just observe and right you have to become a part it's very sort of Michael Palin esque and the experience journalism approach. No you did earlier with like doing a DP Saen bio Benzes biodiesel and how people were using discarded know like French fry oil to transfer cars in the end up driving a bio Ben's so when you're out here you're in Greece and then you start going deeper into the story and you're seeing and and and talking about learning all these things something something flips knew that says okay so I can't I can't just be an observer like I need to write about this from the inside out also. I just think some of that has to do with the the subject matter you know. I wrote a lot of pieces about architects or Hollywood stars or political figures. But none of what they were saying about their world really attracted me to want to know more about it. I know that seems really crass. And I'm not ripping on anyone's vocation but there there wasn't too much That was mysterious enough to to really to invite me to spend more time in in a lot of those worlds but luckily luckily enough you know it was able to pitch enough stories about ideas that I was naturally interested in like the Bio ben's piece. I had a fulltime job at that time and that was so boring. And so writing these magazine pieces. I would just pick things that I was interested in and it turned out that that yeah it was like this makes total sense. Why not run an old Mercedes off of us with vegetable oil and and so once I saw how to do that. I said Oh. I'm going to buy one of these cars and do that. I still have the car. It's a out front of my house right now. So free diving was the same thing. Even though I had never heard about free diving didn't have any experience in its. It was something that immediately mystified me in attracted me to it and you know. It's a little tricky win. Your science journalists have to be an objective observer into these worlds otherwise people think you slamming it in some way but there's only so much of this the stuff that really interests you that that you can hold back from no intention in deep free diving zero. I no intention of having myself as part of that book or as part of that story but on my third expedition seeing these free divers at this time I was out in reunion island off the coast of Madagascar like very distant weird location watching these divers go down and their job was to sneak up behind sharks and to tag their back fins with these little trackers Because sharks kept attacking people and eating people off the coast and Just watching this activity and the relationship with these animals because something else really interesting happens when free diving is you're not an observer into the oceanic environment you're apart of it. An animal's immediately recognized that their prey doesn't swim down to them and look in the eyes and hang out. The prey is up at the surface. Not Looking at them so to see that dynamic. I thought wow this is. This is something I wanted to learn more about. I also thought it could allow me better access to be able to ride about these worlds and what it was like to go down. Fifty seventy five hundred feet on a single breath and focusing on that moment in time. Yeah I mean was to the extent that you had an expectation of what you thought it was going to be. How did the actual experienced and I guess? I'm most curious about the first time had it compare to your expectations are for some was awful and it continued to be awful for months and months and months. You know you have this dream vision of. I'm just GonNa practiced a little bit. Then I'm GONNA be swimming around with whales dolphins and sharks and everything's going to be cool and beautiful and I found this new hobby in life and then you start to practice doing this. And it was violent and suffocating totally miserable. I picked this school. I was in Florida on some other research so I picked the school in Tampa and instead of free diving in the ocean. They had you dive in the this former quarry this this mine that had just filled up with water and so within ten feet you can see the surface so they were trying to train us to go down fifty feet along this rope and so I had my breathing you know. Have my lungs? Pretty well acclimated to doing this. Really focused on that. I had not focused on the psychological part of what it would feel like to push yourself down. Twenty thirty feet turn around to look up to see the surface. Nc nothing so that was something that took a long time to get my head around. Also it didn't help that at this free diving competition. I saw a lot of reckless people doing reckless things and had a lot of bloody faces and passed out. You know passed out people in my mind. I guess you could say I was going to mention. There is a lot of these people in their past out. There is open if you ever look into. Someone's eyes when they passed out you're looking into the the true abyss and so that's something that still gives me the chills so. I had all these psychological hangups about it. Not physical but psychological. What turns out I mean. I'm curious when you go from something like that. Yeah I have a friend who has done a whole bunch of plant as medicine and and probably under journeys and the first third were described as the most horrendous experience of their life and then something happened. That made them say. I can't do this. It is so profound and transformative. There was something happened. I'm always curious when you start something like that. And it is kind of more on the horrific side in the brutal side and then it becomes something that becomes much more on the almost spiritual and opening inexpensive side. Is that gradual evolution for your. Was Your Moment. It was being around the right community number one to seeing these people do these dives responsibly over and over and over and to see them. Interact with animals that I care passionately for sharks dolphins or whales and just to see what that world would allow you access to if you got over that Hump over that hurdle and so. It was months of training again. I want to reiterate that the physical side was actually pretty easy. There's a pool near my house. I would ride my bike to and just swim underwater laps Willie condition my body had around fifteen feet just went back and forth so that part of it came came commonly and easily. The the mental part took a while. But I finally got there and I think at the time. I'm trying to think if there was one pinnacle moment was probably at when we were in Sri Lanka and Trying to dive with sperm whales. The the largest predators on on earth who also share this amazing sophisticated form of communication and seeing the other divers having these experiences and seeing the whales. React to these divers right. So the the whales perception of humans is on boats hunting them or polluting their their homes but to see whales have a different perception of humans and to WanNa incorporate that perception and be part of it was was really moving thing and so that's when a lot of those hang ups you know let I let go of them and was able to just allow myself to to become immersed in that environment and with everything that comes with it including being possibly eaten by a sixty foot long sperm oil with eight inch long teeth and I know that I'm not trying to to make it sound callous in any way. But there's a there's a complete knowing when you're there with his animal that can destroy you at any second by myriad means and decides not to and it decides turn around and Click at you and be curious about you want to interact with you. So that's when a lot of my fears both about free diving and about everything else. That encompasses really went away. That I can't even imagine that moment. I mean I've I've seen video these animals. You actually Did A tedtalk Would showed some stunning footage of this end. It's just breathtaking cameron. Imagine being in the water literally feet away from these. It's it's interesting because like as a journalist I've been lucky enough to go to some pretty weird places right about some interesting subjects and interesting people but Wales and free diving. This was years ago that I had this experience. I think about it all the time and I was literally just on the phone this morning with a friend were waiting for travel to open up again. Because we're going to go die with Wales without any cameras or notepads this time just just to do it and this is a reaction that every single person. I know that has that has gone diving with Wales. Had that face to face like they are completely changed after that. So it's something that that I will keep with me and free diving more excited about doing it now than I've ever been so it's nice to find something that was a very interesting subject from my perspective to write about but also could be incorporated into my life that would continue to nurture me after the book was out after the story. Stop and part of that exploration. Two part of the training that goes into free diving is it's physical but it's also it's it's breath oriented there there you learn to train to breathe certain ways to regulate the the balance of gases basically your body before you go down which which laid the groundwork for most recent book rest to a certain extent. I mean I know. Part of it was that and then part of it. Was this experience that you had through the art of living. That's exactly right You know when I mentioned that fork in the road in my life in Greece That forecast many many tongs STU. It arcus their teams. I guess that's the proper proper word for forget but I was talking to free divers who were not interested in competition and they were just interested in free diving. Of course naturally asked us. It will be freed. I had had you do this. How do you hold your breath? They said the only way to hold. Your breath is to learn how to breathe to learn how to breathe properly. Said the real cool thing about this is you. Don't only have to use this in the water. You can use this in everything in life and they told me crazy stories about people who were heating their bodies up and snow melting circles around their bodies at night breed just breathing for eight hours. People put diseases in remission people who are losing weight just by shifting their breathing so I remember that conversation and I put it in the back file of big file cabinet bunch of weird ideas and I kept going back to it because I kept seeing articles and kept talking to people who kept adding other little tidbits to that story. I thought You know of written a book about holding your breath. It'd be interesting to see what breathing could do both scientifically and the history of this medical history of and all that for for the rest of us for for landlubbers spark that idea. And what was non non-fiction? You submit a proposal then you get an amount of money to go out and ride the right the book so I wrote this proposal pretty quickly. I thought I have figured out. You know wrote it in about a month said nailed all the proper characters and all. That wasn't tell about six months. Eight months in to actually writing the book that I realized every direction I thought I should go into was completely wrong so I had to ditch the entire proposal and start over again and breathing ended up being barn on the weirdest and most fascinating subject. I've I've ever gone into and I'm still in the midst of it right now. Even after finishing the book it is. It's really incredible. I have a background in the world of Yoga and but my one really the entry for to Yoga was actually breathing. It was on and I was. I got really curious. How when you look it and it's not just yoga if you actually go back and you look get every single spiritual or healing tradition in every single culture over generations thousands of thousands of years the all reference breathing as sort of like the fundamental modality to regulate or mediate everything. Know like your psychology your physiology your wellbeing and yet when you bring that up as something valid to explore especially in Sorta like Western culture people kinda tip their heads side residents like what. And that's exactly what I was doing when I first heard these stories right I but it was interesting enough and it was valid enough just barely to make me. WanNa pursue further research into it and once I started really getting my feet wet and talking to real scientists at top university Stanford Harvard. All these people had been saying this stuff for for decades and no one was really listening so I started a real deep dive in into history. And just echoing. What what you just said. Breathing was an essential part of health throughout for the past few thousand years in medicine. If he did it poorly you were going to get sick if he did it properly. You're gonNA live long and have a healthy life. So even the first yoga that dates back five thousand years was a technology of sitting and breathing had nothing to do with movements are poses. It was sitting and breathing and you look at the Chinese Dow. They have seven books dedicated entirely to breeding. What happens when you do it? Improperly what happens when you do it properly so I think that western science is now just really starting to get caught up with us especially with all this Kobe stuff but the what I found so so frustrating but also so fascinating is that this research has been there the whole time and no one's really looked at it from a scientific perspective on how well it looks and taken all these disparate fields together and put them in into into one place in. I think that some of that is because breathing's a tricky thing in medicine it's There was one researcher. Said it's in this no man's land between physiology and biology so nobody's really paying attention to a pulmonologist. Pay attention to diseases of the lungs. They're not looking into the benefits of healthy breathing. Even though the benefits of healthy breathing from what I've found or more important or as important as what you eat or how much you exercise. It all comes down to breathing. That's the first thing you have to start with. I mean I think there is such a fascinating parallel between that world and psychology and that for generations psychology was focused on bringing sick people back to baseline and then the positive psychology movement comes along and says okay so baseline is actually not enough. You know like what if we could bring people from baseline from instead of not sick to for you're actually flourishing in the world. You know and I feel breathing has released similar Carl. Ary with but that's what yoga was to. It was not intended to be used for sick people. It was intended to be used for healthy people to bring them up on the next level in all of eastern medicine. If you look at it it's all based on prevention. You go to your doctor when you feel good so you can keep feeling good and all of Western medicine is based on therapy. You go when you're feeling sick. You know which is why in my opinion. I don't think a lot of eastern medicines are too effective. In IN FIXING BIG BLOWN-UP CHRONIC DISEASES. That have been going on for years and years and years. In someone's body you break your leg. You don't really want acupuncture you want to go to the ER and have that dealt with properly. And I think it's it's those blind spots on both sides of of medicine that really need to be bridged to use this eastern medicine as a way to not get sick in US Western medicine for when you're really sick and and but but again the whole point is to not lose the balance to begin with sue constantly. Staying in Homeo- stasis one of the things that you discover early on is where most people just are relatively agnostic as to what pathway air takes into your lungs out of your lungs. You discover that whether you're breathing through your mouth or whether you breathing your nose actually has found different. And you don't WanNa just research this again. We go experiential here as this whole thing. Became you end up hooking up with another guy and doing this experiment at Stanford Where you spend half the time breathing through three knows only in half the time breathing through your mouth only share more about this. Because it's Kinda crazy. Yeah I realize I'm sound like a broken record here. But but the caveat again is when I started this project this book I told my publish. I'm not going to be a part of this. I was a part of the last book. Been a part of too many articles. I really want to be on the outside. I WANNA be the objective observer. That's where I need to be. But then we realized once again that so many of these these grey areas and blind spots needed to be filled and I was willing to put myself into those areas in detests. What was happening in my body in in labs through to breathing. In this isn't like some at least the Stamford experiment. Wasn't their Human Guinea pig. Oh let's see what happens. You know some people said. Oh it's like super size me. It's it in some respects. It is but in super size me you know. He's eating at the same restaurant three times a day. A fifty percent of the population. That's one estimate. says that we are chronic mouth breather so so half of US breathing from the mouth so so the experiment was set up to see what was happening to a large percentage of the population every day. What was happening to their minds bodies and I looked for some research on this. If anyone had done this and they're just there wasn't a lot so I had been in conversations with the chief of Rhino Research at Stanford and about by our third interview starting to get pretty chummy with the is nameless Giac guard nyack great dude and I I patched idea. I've said well you know we can sit here over lunch and talk about the stuff hypothetically or or we can test it. What do you think? And he said yes so me and one other one other guy. Anders Olsen who is a world renowned breeding coach and therapist? So I thought Oh this is going to be interesting. Well if we took one of the best breeders in the world and made him like fifty percent of the population what would happen to his body so over ten days they plugged our noses with us. Silicon with tape over that so that we were forced to breathe only to our mouths were forced to breathe the way we would likely be breathing in the future. The way large swath of the population is already breathing. So within a single night My snoring increased by thirteen hundred percent We felt awful. We fell constantly thirsty. We felt fatigued. There were psychological markers but what I found what was more interesting was what was actually the data. What was happening to our bodies so we took pulmonary function tests before blood were cats. I mean anything you can imagine seventy different markers and by the end of those ten days. I was snoring and hadn't been snoring before the other subject snoring through half the night we had sleep apnea. We felt absolutely awful. Our bodies were cooling. We were losing a to which is essential molecule in the body It was it was horrendous. It was as awful as probably sounds but The good part about this as we were then able to switch our modes after ten days so they move those those plugs out and we put tape over our lips and we just breathed from our noses and the first night all the snoring disappeared sleep apnea disappeared. Every heart rate variability went through the roof. We're able to exercise much more efficiently We had more more power longer endurance. Easier recovery. I mean I could go on and on. I won't give you the whole the whole layout but it just echoed. What what the Chinese had been saying for thousands of years in one one quote that I thought was great was on this is from the Dow Says the breath inhaled through the mouth is called NICI or adverse breath which is extremely harmful? Be careful not to have breath inhaled from the mouth. That was twelve hundred years ago so everything that that we found added credence to that. It seems so obvious but you look at any other animal fifty four hundred different mammals. They're not brought mouth breathing unless they're throwing off heat their thermal regulating their breathing through their noses. All the time and humans should be doing this as well. It changes your your mental state and Your physiology it also really interesting numbers around performance you know in terms of just the difference between breathing through your nose versus your mouth. Yeah and and trainers had been looking at this in researching this for years about twenty years ago. Dr John Do Yard had bicyclists get on a stationary bike and then train by just breathing through the mouth and just breathing through their nose in. He found that someone who had been breathing. Forty Seven Times. A minute through the mouth was breeding fourteen times through the nose but the same amount of oxygen and was able to push so much harder with less effort so the competitive advantage is huge. You know double. Digit percentage advantage to doing this. And it's something that is just mostly loss on us because a large percentage of the population. I would beg to say half of it or more has problems breathing through their nose. We've we've lost this ability on some of its due to evolution in some of its due to the environment but I think one of the most important health hacks that everyone should do. All the time is breathe through your nose. Science certainly backs that up and it sounds like it's all there's a use it or lose it affect to that too so it's you may have trouble starting to get back into it because especially if you're one of that fifty percents that you know brees predominantly through your mouth because it kind of gets plugged up when you don't use it. It's you know. It's like almost like a muscle atrophying. It's at the tissue inflaming. It makes it harder do but then as you slowly reintroduce it it begins to open up and you may find yourself able to do it. In a way that you thought was wouldn't be possible with exactly right at a doctor. Another doctor at Stanford had looked at the noses of patients who had learned jammies who had a hole drilled in their throat so they could breathe out that that channel and she found that their noses within two months to two years had completely plugged up one hundred percent because they weren't used and she fixed her herself her own chronic mouth breathing by training herself to breathe through her nose all the time. And the more you do it the more you're going to be able to do it because you are changing your physiology. You're changing your your anatomy year strengthening the soft tissues on the back of the mouth and widening your airways by just breathing through your nose because of the pressure you know in in a lot of people are are hesitant to do this because they say oh. I. Don't get enough oxygen breathing through my nose while you're going to get about twenty percent more oxygen breathing through knows than through your mouth. So which is what makes it especially effective for exercising yet. Something I think it just pattern to experience breath feeling a certain way and it takes a little while sort of for brains to be like. Oh this is as it's going to be okay as a little uncomfortable and beginning much me. Okay but your body wants to. It really wants you to break through that. That's the thing this is it. Shouldn't it might feel a little force at the beginning but it will be rewarding you ten times over if you start breathing through the nose for one of the other things that you explored was the effect of different breathing patterns and you mentioned earlier even before you got into this you were having all these conversations with the three diving crew about these mythical and mystical stories about people throwing heat off their body in the cold and healing everything. And how could that even be possible? And it's funny you you you reference Herbert Benson. Who wrote a book? It's gotTa be thirty five forty years ago now about the relaxation response. I reference these monks. Who Part of their their right of passage was to sit outside. You know in Subzero temperatures covered in wet shawls and they would do a type of breathing and meditation where there were not just not die but they would literally dry shawls you would see them steaming off them and I remember reading that years ago and being has needed and researching and discovering this thing called to mow which now a lot of us know as sort of you know that somebody who's really popularized that Wim Hof has served taken that and and build a a more modern artifice around a disturbed technique which has been around for. You know it's probably thousands of years share a little bit about about that and how it can actually Change what your body's capable of doing. Yeah and this was another one of those subjects one of those areas where we've had the science. The stuff has been backed up for such a long time but no one's really been listening so one of the researchers that I got really fascinated with was Carl staue who was a choral teacher in New Jersey and found that by training his students how to exhale mourn. Xl properly they were able to really gain residents and more volume with their voices and he ended up getting called up by the met opera to to train their singers and then the VA hospitals asked him to come in and train emphysema six. Who had this surrender disease emphysema? Who weren't being cared for at all? They were plugged into an oxygen tank and and basically left to die. This had gone on for fifty years but just through breathing by teaching these people how to breathe properly. He rehabilitated. People more than any researcher thought was was possible and their x rays mounds and mounds of x rays to prove this but still the second style left the hospital system after ten years of working within it. All of that research went away and his book is now like three hundred dollars on Amazon. And it's really hard to find because nobody read it at the time was released in nineteen seventy so these these patterns kept repeating and especially with with to Moan so. This is a meditation a technology. That's been around for a thousand years about one hundred years ago. Alexandra David Neil. A French opera singer traveled to the Himalayas and learned it in wrote about it. I think our book came out in Nineteen Twenty seven so it got a little bump of interest then and then the next big bump happened with with Benson who had heard these stories. Probably Read David neals book and actually went out to test it and prove that these monks were able to breathe in ways to stimulate an incredible amount of heat within their bodies and more importantly to sustain that heat for hours at a time they were able to sit in snow for hours and not get hypothermia or frostbite which our understanding of medical science. How how is that possible? So then when Wim Hof Kmart he's the. The torch was passed to Wim Hof. Who discovered this? You know round year two thousand and now is built quite an empire around breathing and and to Mo- in having this ability. What's been so great about seeing what whims been doing. Is He's having the stuff. Scientifically tested with controlled controlled. Studies of these of various. People have been testing this over and over and finding that this incredible transformation takes place in the body by just breathing to the point where many people with autoimmune diseases. Psoriasis ECZEMA even type. One diabetes can either blunt or outright according to them. Sure these problems by shifting how they're breathing which you know of course sounds like complete pseudoscience but then you look at the data and then you look at the CRP profiles of these people and you find what they're doing is absolutely legit and all of this stuff is real so I see that this is really the moment for for to mow. Hundreds of thousands of people are doing it. Now we're we now have ways of measuring that to prove how powerful it really is. Yeah and what I love about all of this. I mean there's so many other things that you explore in the book but what I love about. The the bigger conversation around breathing is that it's accessible to anyone. It's free you can do it for life and it puts it gives you a sense of agency you know it makes you were so used to going to somebody else to fix us but when you start to explore breathing as a modality for everything from your physiological changes to psychological changes to simply calming down. I mean Just the most fundamental reaction you know the the connection between your inhales exhales in triggering you're sympathetic vs para sympathetic nervous system and whether that puts you into fight flight or freeze versus really chill common meditative. You know it's is such a powerful tool when you start learning. Well it's not just about getting air into my lungs. It's not just about transferring. You know oxygen into my red blood cells because my so my body function it is about that but this process which we all just assumed was part of the autonomic nervous system it just it just happens. We actually have the ability to intervene to make an intentional to change the way we do it and in doing so create really profound changes in nearly every part of our being. It's exactly right. It's an autonomic function that only of Onomic. It's it's conscious and when we take control of it we can actually control how organs are functioning and their relationship with one another and or hormone levels and our circulation and on and on and on by simply controlling our breathing. It is an absolute anchor to to our health and to our well-being furred you know from this point until until we age. So they found in in nineteen eighty. They found that single. Most important marker of longevity wasn't genetics wasn't diet was an exercise it was lung capacity so the more lung capacity the healthier. Your lungs are the longer you're gonNA live. According to the data so this is something the ancients have known for thousands and thousands of years know one of the reasons that there are so many yoga poses. Now you stretching breathing into your right side stretching breathing into your left side. Guess what happens when you do that. You are increasing your lung capacity and your buttressing your respiratory health every time you do these poses and you breathe in these ways. So it you know I think that some of the apprehension in breathing where people kind of Pooh Pooh it is the medicine itself which is air. Not a lot of people think that we can change the sculpture of our jaws or faces or are ribs just air or that we can flood our bodies with different hormones or turn on circulation or turn it off but for the people who have studied this. Who HAVE X-RAYS and data people who have experienced this that that air thirty pounds of it that enters and exits are lungs? Every day is as important as food. Were eating how much we're moving around. And that's something I I really absolutely believe in especially after these years and years in this field desk so powerful something that I was so excited to to dive into your exploration of it because it gave me a whole bunch of new places to sort of to go narrow and deep which is I think it'll be a focus of mine for a for a while now says feels like a good place for us to come full circle as well so hanging out here in this cross country container of the good life project. If I offer up the phrase to live a good life comes up to be present I think again I realized how cliche that is an end to follow your own path. There's another cliche for you. Might as well use used to at the same time but something I've learned in my life is is to. You'd know naturally to follow your instinct where you need to go and how you need to do it and to trust in that. I think is a vital to to be happy in in the day to day. 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Episode 114 - The Truth Will Set You Free - Doubting Thomas

The Modern Spiritual Life Coaching Podcast

38:20 min | 8 months ago

Episode 114 - The Truth Will Set You Free - Doubting Thomas

"This is the universe speaking to. Hugh Or. The. Spiritual Life Coaching podcast. By the certified master life coaches, spiritual guide coach chip. Welcome souls. We now begin this episode of a transformational journey. unedited. UNSCRIPTED. And creating something from nothingness. Move. On modern spiritual life coach. This is episode one, hundred fourteen morning gratitude on a fine. Friday. This one is for all the dancing Thomas out there you are listening to the modern spiritual podcast live. A. Bird. smelly spun easy. Joined the modern spiritual podcast mailing list directly from your phone. Life many or doing now. Just been your email address by text message task the modern spiritual. To. As you eight to get started and Try it now. Let's send your email address by text message. To. Aid Do to get started. Message. Jim Data lease may apply. Since. Now listen close into what? Jesus declares to the people. I am the light of the world and the truth shall make you free. I am the light of the world. He the follow with me not walk in darkness. But shall have the light of life. Barest record of Ice Self. Record is not true. Though I record of myself yet, my record is true. I know when? I came in with her I go but he cannot tell whence I come. Whether I go. Each judge after the flesh. I know man. And yet if I judge, my judgment is true for I am not alone. But I. And the Father Send Me. It has also written. And you'll law. that. The testimony of two men. Is True. I am one the bear witness up myself and the father. That sent me. Beth witness supplement. Where is Father. Neither no, me know my father. If, had known me should known my father also. I go my way. And he shall seek me. I shall die in your sins. CanNot come. From beneath. From above. Here of this world who I am not of this world I said that for under you that you shall die in your sins for if you believe not that I am he. Shall die in. You'll see and. Who are Even the same that I said, unto from the beginning. I have many things to say into judge view but he that sent me is true. and. I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. When you have lifted up the Senate men. Then show you know the Diam he. And do nothing of myself. That's my father has taught. Me Do always those things that please him. And if you continue in my word. then. You might disciples indeed. Know the truth. Make you free. Will be Abraham's seed and whenever in bondage to any man. How CEOS how he should be made free I know that Abraham seat but you seek to kill me because my word has no place in your. I speak that which I've seen with my father and he do that you have seen with your father. If he were. Abraham's children. You would do the works of Abraham. Now, you seek to kill me. A man that has told you the truth. which I have heard of God. Why can you not understand speech? Even, because you cannot hear my word. Your of your father, the devil. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in the truth. Because there is no truth in him. And because I tell you the truth I believe me not. They're very I say to you if a man. Keep my saying. He shall never see death. The greater than our father Abraham, which is did your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day? And he saw it and it was glad. And Has Dowse E. Abraham. Fairly fairly I say to you. Before. Abraham was. I am. Moore. Now listen close to this. Is When Christ Authority is questioned I would've thought. These. And who gave me this dark. I also will ask you one thing. which if you tell me I unlike likewise, we'll tell you by what is thought. He had to do these things. The baptism of John. Whence was. From Heaven or of men. If. We shall see from heaven he will say endless. Why did you not been believe him. But if we shall see a man. Before the people. Call John. We cannot. Neither till I you by was ability I do these. What thank you. Certain man had to. Came to the first and said some. Go work today might in. The onset and said. Afterward. repented. became to the second and said likewise and he answered and said. Rent's. Not. Whether them Twain to the will of his father. Fairly I say unto you. That the Publicans and let's go into the Kingdom of God before you. John came unto you in the way of righteousness. Believed him no. The publicans and the Hallet's believed him. And when he had seen. Ended not afterward that he might believe. Your. Is when he has risen on the beloved with Resurrection Let's now listening. About the year eight, thirty wall outside the walls of Jerusalem. An extraordinary man named Jesus of Nazareth was cruelly executed along with two thieves. It was an event that would change the world. And Very. FEW UNDERSTOOD HOW crashed. into. Your God. Seeing art in the same basin and we Did just. RECEIVED DO REBECCA volunteers. But this man had nothing. Amiss My name is John. And indeed. Could be well said of this man Jesus. He did. Nothing Amiss. I was with them for the last years of s life. I watched him give sight to the blind he will be sick and the lane. I was a witness. As, he raised the dead back to life. And yet, he was rejected by those who should have rejoiced at his coming. Is. As I, my fellow disciples followed through the cities and hills of Judea. We came to know for ourselves a miraculous truth. That the Apostle Peter expressed for us all. Do men say. Some then. Art The. Christ. The son. Of the Living God. The. Christ. The anointed one. Had the power and authority to forgive mankind their sins Sunday since forgiven. Sir. Our possession we had the writings of ancient prophets who prophesied about this Messiah, the son of God, but we did not fully comprehend. The last week of his life. I was an eyewitness as the Zachariah foretold centuries before D-. Many welcomed his return to Jerusalem as the Messiah their keenly. As. We dined with him on his last night. He tried to warn and prepare us for his impending death. And they will come on man. Thank you ve onto you. that he loved one another. Up Tears. Greater love has. Laid down his life for his friends. On my friends. Take this. On. Yourself. I will not drink of the fruit of the vine to the Kingdom of God shall come. As we left this upper room, Jesus was greatly troubled yet he spoke to US words of comfort. Your. Own. Not. Just the world this here. Not Troubled. Be. Still. We did not understand what lay ahead. Looms. or You should be offended because this night. Is Written. I will might the shepherd. Reflect Chevy scattered abroad. Peter James, and I. Followed him further into the garden. By exceeding soulful. To death. You. Tear you hear. Long. Home. Are Russell. Take, this, Cup. Not, my rail. Thing. Indeed. Spirits were willing. But our flesh. For, we were heavy with sleep. Watch what else? We did not comprehend that the son of God who we saw had power to forgive sins. was now offering himself as payment for the misdeeds of all mankind. Unaware We slept on. Skin great agony. Prayed more earnestly. His sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. In you. She's Nassar. One of our own, the trade, our loved to the rulers of the Jews. One. That pervert has the people. Jim, before you and find no fault with this man touching those things where view accused. Him To. He has found that nothing worthy of death has been done. I will therefore chastise him and release in. Into your custom not this time of year one prisoner Southie released. But albums. Jesus, who is told the Christ. The blood of this just. See. Him. Also. Even in his intense suffering. As. He paid the final. Bryce for us all. His thoughts were on others. His final request of. Wants to care for his beloved. Mother. Behold. Thank. Darkness is passed. And the true light now Shaina. This is the. That he had promised us. Heaving Eternal Life. Mary. Four we beheld his glory. Because of him, we all shall live again. Risen. Whom you? Now his when blessed, they have not seen yet have believed. Now let's listen into doubting Thomas. We have seen. A. except I shall see in his hands, the print of the nails. Put My finger into the print the nails. Thrust my hand into his side. Only. In your. Talk. To you. Could. Be, to. The, finger. My hands. Full. Tustin to my side. Faithless. Lured and my God. Thomas. because. Has Seen Me. Has Relieved. That have not seen. believed. Know. It's fun and easy to join the modern spiritual podcast mailing list directly from your phone. Just send your email address by text message text, the word modern spiritual. Two. Two two, eight, two, eight to get started. Try it now. Send your email address by text message. Text the word modern spiritual. To. Two two, eight, two, eight to get started. Message and data rates may apply. were. A. Aw. ooh. A. A Off. 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The Entrepreneurs - Eureka 130: Frank Green

Monocle 24: The Entrepreneurs

11:38 min | 2 years ago

The Entrepreneurs - Eureka 130: Frank Green

"You're listening to Eureka on Monaco twenty four brought to you by the team behind. The entrepreneurs Ben young has always been a great lover of the outdoors and conscious about the challenges facing our planet, and when his corporate career in Australia focused on business tragedy. Let him into the waste management sector. He quickly learned that things were not adding up in the world of recycling with less than one percent of all disposable cups, actually being recycled and all the rest taking up two thousand years to break down in landfill. He saw a market for reusable cops after four years of product development along his brand Frank green arrange of reusable, plastic and stainless steel cups and bottles sold online and at cafes and shops around the world. Here's Ben young with the story of Frank green. If I stop back from myself as a younger person Alsop who was always in the outdoors and out fishing lap Bush, well king or otherwise just having fun. And then from there, you know, you go through school and then university, then I started my corporate career and macabre Cray was fantastic. And it's really allowed me to being great stead for the journey of Frank grain and corporate career was in business strategy and also mergers and acquisitions so it was a pot of that to say a lot of businesses, and why that will strong while wakened centenarians for the last two years of my corporate Korea can business strategy in mergers and acquisitions for strays largest waste company clean away. That was my last full-term trouble for static Frank grain fulltime, and that was an amazing for me throughout my whole life. I thought that we recycled plastics and. Took care of the wasting terms beans that we put it in and throughout that period bicycle visiting yelling every waste facility in the strata. I found out that was not the case we actually most Tustin and things that we put into being go straight into landfill. I had the idea for Frank rank probably ten years before. Then I didn't have the the con of the passion that I needed to do it in Thames wasn't my lawf- at the time that then once I was in the Weist management role, then realized how devastating single use plastics are in the environment. And that might mean extremely passionate about getting my dear off the ground. The reason why we went into reusable cups and bottles was quite simply as they're the two greatest defenders to what ends up in landfill. For example, in a strata, single, use coffee, cups and beverage containers. Mike up around about forty three percent of landfill. I win. We did all the research. We don't qualitative quantitative research, focus groups and everything club that and we found out very clearly the reason why people don't invest in reusable products because I like the Stahl and functionality of what they. Expect and what in consumers quite deservedly that they need to have products that tickle their boxes and Silva solution full of and that's why we came up with the criterion. Literally ran about one hundred things items functions that we needed to put into our product before we launched because it was you know, it's a mock that was expanding and we needed to have appointed different in that marketplace and a journey and really show that Frank grain was a sustainability brand as opposed to a couple of auto business. Some of the design features that we put into our products around curves codes of beautiful and paypal's minds really really liked him. And the census that they evoke. So the curves are in the curvature of the bottom of products follow what we call a golden ratio, and that golden ratio, he's just placing the people's eyes. And you don't really know why? But it just is. So we wanted wanna product beautifully and people's hands. But also said he cly really all the boxes as well. In addition to some of the curves that we have on product it's about when you turn the lead on its screw down lead as opposed to oppress down lead, we made it. So it turns around pretty much two and a half turns. We could have had the product sale in hafa turn about when you putting coffee into a product you people's minds wanna know that the the leads on properly. That's why it needs to go around two and a half times to really cement that the lead zone for the. Where customers? Frank, grains vision is the stop the manufacturer of single use products, and inciting that consumers would like to have their what about a little coffee Cup as a fashion accessory? It. It's a symbol of who. I stand for. And it's consumer dynamics, you know, the trends, and that kind of thing that want k pop that think super important that you design a product with the consumer in mind would call that human center design is very very important we've faced an enormous amount of challenges in terms of the design and also manufacturing of that product. You know, in the first instance, it's actually not hard to design a product with the kick soul continuous boxes from his point of view. But then you've actually go to manufacture to manufacture it in a Steinem away that then can be replicated in in a sense and done an atomic basis where the quality is rot. So we took three process to actually do that. And we actually came up with two other products stalls designs before we go to the one that we have now and after six months because we all the the very rigorous testing could imagine by cow. I. Test things we're going through that regime where we had a special jig made up and we pressed the button in our product K million times to save those wear tear pots because we couldn't start a premium brand and show out brand to afternoons without having that testing done. So that was really important for us, and it really detect three years of trial and era to get that right and involving how consumers of customers in that every step of that journey. So you'll get feedback in terms of what we're doing. Literally Frank grain as a name. We wanted something that was the values of company, but also as stood for what we were doing. So Frank literally main straightforward, and honest and grain main sustainable and also great mains do something grain get advocate comforts on do. Some you've never done before. So in saying that those values that we have have been presented to the white community. And then other companies, for example, Disney Google Guba that they come to you because they feel at brands in attends Londe, and then it's quite an easy cleberation got locked onto businesses doing great things the environment trying to galvanize few I think governments and communities can work together. And I think that's super important to at least educate people on the choices and people don't realize, and because we haven't, you know, basically had them probably it's not consumers fault. Just just don't know about it. And the being presented will miss presented information. The pas. So if we can educate consumers on the power, they choice, and how what they do today affects the future for for future generations. So I think that's the challenge that that we have being able to do that and the role that governments and also be corporates compla- is very important as well. And we've saying in the UK has Cummins wanted to put a surcharge on single use coffee cups when though sewed that got defated, but nevertheless, being some big companies like Starbucks that now put a five Pence so charge on people who buy a coughing innocent US Cup. But conversely, give a fifty pay discount. If you take your reusable Cup to a cafe. And I think that's quite because builds a bond between the cafe and the customer has they working together to as before galvanizing future and the environment. We coming out with additional products. But it also coming up with new technologies in that kind of thing in our range because we need to make our products even more useful to contribute than they are today. Now, the internet of things is not a phenomenon it's not a buzzword it's actually reality and consume as expect more from everyday products. So we want to be able to stay connected with our customers and really show them in the rule transparent way about a brand. And the Dow that we stand for, and I think that storytelling that any stage out customers and partners understand that when they pardon me Frank grain that they're working with the business that cares deeply about the human rights, so people in manufacturing standards, the environment. And that's his total pizza that that happens way as transparent as possible about about what we do as business. Only. I think if you start as bombing. To sustainability as the core of your brand at the Stott. You don't need to go back and reinvent yourself fives incur- business. So for example, we designed the products in such a way that you could get certain amount in a box and soon amount of boxes on a pallet. So you can hundred percent utilize that palate as opposed to having eighty percent utilization. So when we ship things, it's a fishing, and that kind of thing, you know, it's it's about using materials that can be recycled and all that kind of thing. And we were always really passionate about that. Because we didn't want to have to apologize like a lot of brands do ten years down the track because I know that that worried about profit and profit so that was really the Danai business to start with an assuming sustainable practices that we have within the business that are just hygiene factors for us. And you know, another example of that alma factoring facility strike is also aphids center. So we don't need to apologize for a manufacturing producting. One location putting on a pallet putting on a truck and taking it somewhere unloading, then doing the film and it all happens under one hats one roof. So yeah, the things down in that is unheard of of companies having them kind of steadfast dogged determination to do that up front. Thanks very much to Ben young for sharing the story of Frank green. To learn more about their reusable cups checkout. Frank green dot com. Thank you very much Henry Sheridan for conducting the interview with Ben in New York City, and thank you to in Matthew Banerjee who mixed and edited this show, I'm Daniel beach. Thanks for listening and goodbye.

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Episode 22  Hospice Care

Caregiving Challenges and Solutions

18:28 min | 1 year ago

Episode 22 Hospice Care

"Hello and welcome to the caregiving challenges and Solutions podcasts. Your source for expert advice on caring for our elders. I'm your host. Maria Speech Pathologist International Speaker and author of the Cookbook think outside the blender great tasting and healthy recipes for dysphasia diets. In this episode we'll be learning about hospice care and caring for people at end of life and this can be a difficult topic for many people but the more information you have the easier it will be to make decisions that are in the best interest of your loved one. My guest today are isis. Camaro and Stephanie Read. Isis is a volunteer director at H. R. Assistant at OC hospice in. Tustin California Stephanie. Read as a social worker. She's been working in hospice and Palliative. Care from five years. She's in the final semester of completed her master's degree in social work. She's also a board member for women's recovery home. She wanted to Support Group for Homeless Services nonprofit and she's also a site coordinator for the national homeless count. So welcome Isis and Stephanie. Thank you so. Can you start by explaining what hospice care is a good you isis? Yes of course. Oh I'm hospice care. So what we basically are. We are a service so we go to people's homes or whatever they call it a home whether it's Apartment Condo D- A Regular House Jenner's Z- zoo letting system in Saudi a boarding care wherever they are. That's what legal to provide quality of care at the end of life. Which means that. It's for people that are or have a diagnosis of six months or less to live. Okay Okay and that can be any variety of types of diagnosis. Yes any any kind of light noses as long as this has An order doctorate. You have a six months or less. And how how does hospice care improve? Quality of life for these folks and this is just for my personal experience that I've been with hospice eight. You know when you're a dad last stage of your life. It's very important for you to kind of become table in do you WanNa do. I mean you don't have a lot of time still WANNA keep patients or for. The people are in Hospice Berry. Just comfortable and happy at home in if that's where they've decided 'cause hospices not for everyone but if they decided that they don't WanNa continue with any extreme measures to keep anymore or whatever. The treatment might be them. They have the opportunity to go to hospice and just be comfortable home. You know our loved What the the the space feel safe and comfortable instead of being out in and out of the hospital or another type or place where It's no their home and Stephanie can jump in Anytime. You want to add something. I'm sure I think I just did a great job explaining What hospices and Typically what I tell our patients the way I explain. It is hospice. The hospice is philosophy of care. You know kind of just put a different than on it you know. It's a philosophy of care that provides comfort. You know we're not just focused the on the patient. But we're all so it's a very holistic approach so we are Working with the families or whatever support system you know. The patient has around them so Even though the patient is the focus of our care you know we do address. Everyone around them so Like I said you know. We are focusing on comfort physical psychological spiritual. We address all of those different areas for patients when they start hospice. And I know you guys offer a team approach. Can you explain a little bit about who is on the team? Sure so the hospice team is made up of a team of clinicians which the medical directors the hospice physician at the top of the team. There and then we have an rn case manager who is The one that oversees the whole team and then typically there's also an lvn license locational nurse who also sees the patients as well along with the RN We have medical social workers. We have spiritual counselor. We have volunteer coordinator And we also have a bereavement coordinator who handles all of the Bereavement. When our patients pass away So this is the team that's assigned to every patient and it's a it's pretty consistent so yo you know. A patient will have usually have the same team members visiting them throughout their time with us. Yeah and how often can a person expect a visit from a team? Member like once the frequencies The frequencies are based on the patient's needs so typically a nurse will will visit anywhere from two to three times per week depending on what their needs are And it's the same thing with the other disciplines it's really based on what the needs of the patients are so you know we have some patients who you know may only need to see the social worker once a month or we might have to see them weekly. If there's you know if if we have some issues going on so really The beauty of hospices is that can be driven by the patient. 'cause it's all based on what their needs are as well as their family. Sure and you described a holistic approach and all those different areas that you guys offer care and can you describe a little bit more in either one of you. More specifically what what that looks like whether it's physical and I'm thinking about maybe pain management and and things like that but I says you WanNa talk about volunteers or mission and it's really to provide care for patients and I think this is I'm seventy giger agree with me. Most hospices we will not have The patients and their family members. Not only will physically. That's of course. That's our number one goal patient For the patients to be pain-free a oiseaux focus on the. Dacian trauma leads to not be only well physically but also mentally and emotionally. Because it's the moment that you get diagnosed. It's evidenced from her. You know you don't have to wait to patient vows to grieve. It's a rollercoaster of emotions. It's a roller coaster of panicking. A whenever the patient declines in words It can be the moment so it's a very very very fragile stage and we really tried to provide as much support as we count so Counselor will will refer to any specific religion that they need in or I mean wonderful. Social Workers Emotional support and our resources for them to help them to cope with it. Because it's not an thing to do. So are there any common misconceptions about what hospice yeah? There's a lot. Yeah there's a lot and I hope that you know whoever's listening you know to this podcast you know. Hopefully at the end of this we can kind of reframe. Some of the misconceptions of hospice. And it's a very scary word. You know people hear that word and you know they just automatically identify with you know. Just it being end but hospice. It's we've had several patients who have been on service for a lot longer than the six month. Life expectancy and so. That's that's one thing that people don't understand they don't. They're not really aware of that. But I think to You know when families come to us they either have a past experience Something that they're they're relating it to you know whether it's another family member who started hospice and then they died two days later and that's kind of what they hold onto and they just have misconception. That like you know once you start hospice you just die I think it's important that we you know. We say that we do not hasten the process of death You know. Obviously everything depends on the time that the patients referred to us But we certainly have had patients who have been on service for a lot longer than six months and we do have patients who actually Are graduated from the program meaning. They no longer meet the criteria. And so and that's what we call it. You know but we graduate them which is a happy day so. I think that's important for people to know is that you can change your mind. You know it's absolutely yeah absolutely and I'm yes. Go to houses GONNA odd You know it really on It's an case to case basis and it's really a what debating what that Diagnosis as you know. We do have patients that pass within the same night but we have patients that In with us for a long time. So it's I mean it's hard to say obviously there's no magic or are they can tolls like when they're gonNA pass away. It's really even the ones within the very fragile made. I would think we're GONNA leave soon. They don't so it's it's we don't never know really as so initially. It's a you sign on. If the DOC of physician feels that it's like a six months life expectancy however your services do not end at that six months you. You guys continue. That's correct if they meet the if they continue to meet their criteria okay and so we have what we call benefit periods and hospice and so at those benefit periods are patients are being Reevaluated and so typically the way that looks is on the first six months there's two ninety day what we call recertification period's and then at the six month mark After that then it's every sixty days and within those benefit periods There has to be some kind of Decline that's assessed by a a either a physician or nurse practitioner and again. You know if if they're still meeting those meeting that criteria their diagnosis than the care continues Like I said I think it's a great point that she made you know. It just really varies from patient to patient. There's definitely specific to every individual patient. But that's how that's what. The benefit period look like as far as patient continuing on hospice sure An Isis you mentioned too that the person doesn't necessarily have to be in their own home if they are maybe in a skilled nursing facility or memory care facility you guys can start care. I'm whatever they are really we. We go nursing homes facilities on mobile homes. They rent a room and someone's back of the House or the garage. It doesn't really matter. We will whatever they are. Okay okay coming up. This is hospice care. Covered by insurance or Medicare yes. It's it's covered one. Hundred Percent Medicare And it is covered under three different Insurances and the coverage might vary from policy to policy but Medicare does cover at one hundred percent. Okay here we have California. We also have Medi Cal so are covered by Medicare out so it really I think it really comes to and I know some insurances cover some of the percentage that are not covered by Medicare. But I think when you get really detailed to the policies and Y You followed by for. It's better to bring your benefits and see because it sure. And how would a family member learn about hospice care? Is it just a physician coming in and saying this is kind of where we're at? This is an option for you or was at work. Well I would suggest my recommendation is always you know if the doctor is making the recommendation for hospice that The family asked for several recommendations You know maybe three agencies that they could interview you know I would ask you know Family members or friends that they have you know. They have had any experience with hostage agency that they could recommend You know the benefit is the same across the board. You know what the differentiator is how those services are delivered and it's asking a lot of questions. Setting up appointments in any hospice will come and talk to a family and you know. Provide Information But the doctor you know obviously the Doctor. Yes will have resources but obviously you can go online and and look at reviews you can look at yelp review There's a there's a lot hospices in in both La County and Orange County so it it can be a little bit of a challenge. You know trying to find the right one. That's my recommendation for locating one. Okay you mentioned because You know we are trying to educate the community kind of on them because in office unless you is obviously not a hot topic now a lot of people wanNA talk about it but a program that can really help people and it's really you know the only way you can hear about is if you're on the field if you had someone that went through it or review here so it's I tell everybody you know I work for all but I tell them. You don't e- somebody is a need. I mean you don't have to come with us. You should look at. Your arm was saying research. And that's really everything. Nowadays you have to do you have to like make your research and and tried to find out what's the best fit for you know? Not all of them are going to be the not like cookie cutters. You know the every for one that it's best for you and so We are thankfully you brought it up because we do want to let people know that it is an option you know and it's May might not be an option for everyone but if you are at the point where You don't want to go to the hostile anymore. WanNa check ups. You don't WanNa do you WanNa be a home appease in. Oh you're like I'm okay with me going whenever you want me to go and that's your choice. Something that Then hospice will be the right fit for you right and I would like to add that. I don't think I think most people don't realize that you know the services are extended even after our patients pass away We do provide bereavement up to thirteen months and not a phone call. It's visit its support groups but that bereavement that time of Brain Minnesota important. So you know our families Know that we start talking to them about it right at the start of service that like I said. We're you know we're dealing with anticipatory grief you know at the beginning but we also continue The bereavement support up to thirteen months after our patients. Pass away Imagine that's very necessary. Part what you do to serve sure right well. Is there anything you would like to add before we wrap up become covered a lot? I think I you know. Obviously I'm this is what I do and I'm surrounded by this every day but I would just like to encourage families I know this is really scary. I know it's a difficult journey to embark on but it's it really is can be a beautiful experience and a beautiful journey When it's embraced and you know it's a wonderful service and I think the more you can educate yourself on it the easier it might be To make that decision definitely and if I mean if hospices Something that you look into you know you get a whole. I'm team you know it's not just you. You're saying you halting to help you into optical through this it's not easy but if that's what you're low one wishes than we do know that the last thing that they WanNa do thank you everyone for listening that's offered today. I would like to thank our guests. Isis come from OC hospice and Stephanie. Read Social Worker for more information. Go to my website at dysphasia. Diet recipes dot com and in the show notes for this episode. I'll have some more information than even willing to some videos. That kind of show how to Have that was difficult conversations? If you like this podcast please subscribe and share it with your community so until next time take care of yourself and remember. We are all connected.

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AltsLA 2019 Conference - Millenium Trust for Tax Qualified Asset Custody - w/Ted Parker

OC Talk Radio

05:48 min | 2 years ago

AltsLA 2019 Conference - Millenium Trust for Tax Qualified Asset Custody - w/Ted Parker

"Hello and welcome back to strategic investor radio again. We're here at the ALLTEL. A conference in Los Angeles hundreds of people hair. We've been here again. <hes> four straight year in a row bigger crowd every year all about alternative investments and we're sitting here with Ted Parker who was with Millennium Trust Company. He handles the <hes>. The Business Development for the Western U._S. and Ted is somebody who lives just a few miles from either in Orange County so ted welcome to also lay Charlie. Thank you very much so tell us what is Millennium Trust Company. Would you guys do and why would you be at a conference for Alternative Investments Greg Question Charlie Millennium. Trust Company is a twenty six billion dollar custodian of Alternative Investments Custodian in this case means or we're not clean office buildings. We are <hes> the the Irish requires you to custody your alternative Assessments Custodian for any retirement account because they need had kept track of evaluation of those and a lot of custodians don't like the hold onto them because they don't know how to value them so a regular custodian would be Fidelity Schwab T._d.. AMERITRADE CETERA exactly including the big banks and and the. Shaping Morgan's and Wells Fargo and they often are <hes> unwilling to take on certain kinds of investments because they're not publicly traded. Is that the case exactly when investing those companies that goes is on their computer and sees something go up on value the custodian people don't know what those are invested in. They don't know the value of the private stock or private real estate and so when people want to invest in something like that with their qualified account on I._R._A.. Et Cetera they need to come to a different custodian who kind of specializes in that and those kinds of investments of the generic term alternative investments is not the case exactly Charlie in fact a lot of the custodians like Schwab and Fidelity for example apple have gotten completely out of the alternative space and refer their clients investor clients to ask if they want to hold those investments and it's not really because those investments are riskier. It's because the nature of them. How do you value them? Every day. ETC The custodian aliens responsible for those things and it's just more difficult because those alternative investments aren't ordinarily in necessarily in the business of having to do that exactly you know if you look at the way institutions manage their portfolios hurt some of that this morning at the conference calpers for example credits their extra performance to the exposure to private stock private stock is not publicly traded but you and is investors can now invest private. Stop by institutions are okay so you. you guys are required to do that gives us a story to how what has happened cases you've been involved in and why your services are so needed sir i had a meeting with an adviser and tustin california last year who was concerned about the rising interest rates in the u._s. and they were concerned about the impact on corporate credit and government bonds so they found these i trusted mortgages paid their investor anywhere from eight to ten percent interest back by real estate and when the adviser presented that to their clients the clients were ecstatic they wanted to put more than advisors willing to put in that investment class okay so then they came to you and you provided the structure basically for them to be able to <hes> invest in those investments is at it exactly yeah we need to review the plan documents and make sure that it's not a vehicle for money laundering or there's not some abuse of fees in there or outrageous <hes> interest rate returns and that the investment sponsor of on who's building what an investment is actually who they say they are the k._f._c. and a._m. l. <hes> and once everything's plane we accept the asset for custody okay so how long have you guys been doing this They did the assets that you guys custody sure we were founded near two thousand so we're nineteen years old this year and we've got twenty six over twenty six billion dollars of asset billion with a B B and over fifteen thousand thousand unique alternative investments that we custody well <hes> so so they keep you busy here Ted absolutely and a lot of investors don't know they can put these private investments in retirement accounts so you work strictly with advisors. You don't go directly to the public. I presume zone then absolutely it's my job help educate advisors about the value of adding alternative client portfolios and show them how easy it really is and what did you and you keep track of the value of these things and you send out <hes>. Did you send out he did the monthly performance reports or anything with private investments. They're not marked the market. What that means is that <hes> the private real estate of the private stock doesn't report daily the valuations but we do have to get a re evaluation at least annually report that to the I._R._S.? Okay so <hes> <hes>. How are you enjoying this conference so far? This is your second year Charlie. It's it's it gets bigger every year and more and more interested interest in the alternative space and we see that increasing so final words for our listeners here Ted final learn words learn about alternative investments research then and then take the plunge invest Ted thank.

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Sweet Nothing(ness)- Heather Armstrong on Her New Book, The Valedictorian of Being Dead

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Sweet Nothing(ness)- Heather Armstrong on Her New Book, The Valedictorian of Being Dead

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But those life experiences are different from a lot of people's those are the episodes where we talk about mental health, usually. And indeed that is what this episode is about I need to give you the mother of all content warnings before we get started this show deals with depression suicide drug use and in the mid partner abuse. There's a lot going on basically, it is also pretty funny and hopeful I think so I encourage you to listen to it, even if those things are issues in your own life. But of course, please be in a good space. Be in whatever space you need to be before you listen, you can you can take the day off. It's okay. I will not be hurt. If you wanna come back some other time, but do come back because I want you to hear this interview with Heather Armstrong. If you are an extremely online person, especially if you've been extremely online for a long time. You probably know who she is. She is deuce deuce dot com. One of the early popular single person, blogs, she made a name for herself by getting fired within kept blogging and became very popular. Because she was so funny and smart in reverent and handed very candid about motherhood and marriage and religion and mental health her own depression life in general. She made a living doing that. As some of us. Did she sold banner ads against these experiences and did okay for herself. But then you know, the bottom dropped out of the banner ad market. I had this experience as well. You could no longer just be funny and smart you had have sponsors and whatnot. And so she retreated from blogging, she became a consultant. She got divorced and she slowly slipped into the deepest depression. She'd ever had. There's something especially poignant about Heather's experienced that identify with a lot this idea that you've been so candid in raw online at one point in your life. And then you come to another point where you are really in pain. And you don't tell anyone. You don't tell anyone until you have to. The valedictorian of being dead is in part about the radical treatment Heather undertook for that depression it involved going into a medically supervised many coma ten times over four weeks. But it's also a book about being known, truly, no. The difference between having a public persona that plays at being candid and real fru-. Raw intimacy. I am thrilled to have on. We will be right back to hear from Heather Armstrong, the valedictorian of being dead. Heather welcome to the show. Hi, how are you? I am. Well, and I am excited to talk to you about your book, which I loved, and I know because I asked her earlier you have a section that you can read for us to to get us started. Would you would you mind doing that? Yeah. I'll do that. And just to give a little background, my brother and sister had watched me go through an experimental treatment day, and it begins like this as I was walking up. The stairs. I got a text message. I turned on my phone to see who it was from the rectangle the white screen red ranger Hamilton ranger is his name. I opened it and looked down to read. This today was a sacred experience for me seeing lying there completely in the euro best. I have never been more proud of you to be your brother. You have so much courage and so much fight. Right in. You your experience is now taking you to places I cannot imagine. Please know that I said this next part in total honesty, there were long past loved ones in the room watching over you. I felt them there on recognize them as sure as I know I was there I had to lean against the countertop to setting myself. I knew exactly who he was talking about the one person who mmediately came to mind when my doctor initially told me about the treatment, her name was many and McGuire. And she was my great grandmother. The mother my mother's mother. She wore nine children to have him died, and she spent the majority of her life in what was then referred to as a mental institution in Kentucky. My mother and her siblings have often thought that she suffered from ongoing postpartum depression that wasn't ever able to heal because she continued to get pregnant in the deaths of two of her children only compounded. Her sorrow, tragically, many spent her final days in that mental facility in died there in nineteen sixty eight the nurses told my grandmother that they loved many, and that she was the sweetest patient and the easiest to manage in the word. My grand niece once told me that back in the day. There were no counselors and therapists like there are today. They would just take them to the mental institution in Kentucky. Sometimes my mother would just sit for hours and stare, it seemed as though she was thinking some time she seemed emotionless other times she could be violent at times you lose. Remembering. Had thought in the brief moments after learning about this treatments. Will I be the one who ends up dying in hospital despite the immediate hope that the promise of the treatment had given me. I remember being struck by the idea that I was the craziest of all who had descended from Minneapolis Dwyer. Of course, I was of course, it will be mean her legacy is why have fought so hard to get better. Each time. My depression has reared its unforgiving head because back then there were no counselors and therapists like there are today. She didn't have access to the care and the help that I have access to seat died long before she could ever get it. What was my eighteen months of hopelessness compared to the decades? She spent locked inside an institution all of this overcame me in that moment, especially the idea that here I was. Given another chance at life and it worked. It worked if this long past loved one was in that room watching over me, I would want her to know that I think of her every time I reach for my bag of pill that night, and how lucky I am to have them heard legacy is the fight. I have inside of me. Her legacy is a mother holding on for the sake of two young girls. I should've warned you before that, I might cry. Am I too? I can barely get that. Usually when I'm reading. Some listeners already know. I have a mom, I've got a mom thing. So. Okay. Deep breath. Sorry. You got better. That's actually where we want. We want to land this thing. Eventually is it you got better. Exactly. All right. Let's talk about the book's title. Which I did not get at first. But you you explain it pretty quickly. I think it might even be the book jacket. The valedictorian of being dead. I connected with at once. I understood I connected with it, really hard. So explain it for folks. So. Really quickly. I was the valedictorian high school. I very quickly early on in childhood decided that if I was the best at everything that I with mother happy. And so my lifelong goal was to be the best of everything that I did. And so I graduated valedictorian high school full scholarship to the college of my choice. I was you know, I graduated with honors. I was always good at what I did. And I was the third patient of ten just the third to go under this procedure. And when they put me on anesthesia, I went down so hard and so fast that they could barely get the breathing tube in vast enough, and they were startled by an my mother is standing there like what is going on? I'm like, no one's ever done this before no one's ever gone this. No one no one's ever gone down this far before. And she said do not know who you're dealing. She's here. She's the valedictorian of everything she does including I just feel so seen. I have to tell you. Oh, good, my friend, and I have a reference to the same exact phenomenon of thinking if we can do everything perfectly than everything will be. Okay. We call it being a gold star girl a gold star girl. Yeah. But I introduced her to the term valedictorian for the same phenomenon. And now, we're gonna steal I think so. You can have it. Thank you. But we should probably talk about the being dead part, which I also identify with in in in a way, but we can maybe talk more of that later. Let's drill down on this experimental treatment that you got which again things in the book jacket, but my God, it is it is literally kind of mind blowing thing to find out about. So this treatment this experimental treatment that you did it involve dying. Yes. I call dying because I needed to express the gravity. What was happening to people my doctors, and the doctors here on the study would be very grave about calling Dr. It's not technically dotting except that they're trying to replicate the effects of e c t what they most scientists believe about a C T when they shocked the brain into a seizure, the seizure causes the brain to flat line for about three minutes an into what's called a burst. Suppression state where it's flat lining in. There's a burst and then fly lions, and there's a brush, and so they thought will okay. So e c t causes permanent memory loss and migraines and all sorts of like side effects that are undesirable. What if we could come up with something that didn't have side effects, and they realized that it were to anesthesia's that you can use to take the brain all the way down to purser Prussian? And so they decided to use promo fall in this treatment because propofol Z. For many surgeries most people who have called off copies have purple Michael Jackson. Yes. Not going to talk about that. But I do in the book trigger warning for Michael Jackson. The Michael Jackson frog made everybody said, oh, it's the Michael Jackson drug. Yes. Maybe now people call it. The Heather Armstrong drug food scene news, no Milo. Break out into Michael Jackson song. But guess I'm doing propofol. And they would take my brain down all the way to basically a thing for fifteen minutes and ahead. Do it ten times over the course of three weeks? So of course to agree to participate in a treatment that is. So apparently terrifying like you go into detail in the book like there, there are people around you. They they knew what they were doing. Although it was experimental like, you know, you weren't literally dying there are safeguards, but still it's a dramatic step to take and not one that everyone would. To get to that point. This is the place where I I feel very much a connection to get to that point. Where did you have to be? Right. Did I have to be right? You know? I was in the worst bout of depression of life. And I thought it was never gonna get better. I thought I'm just forever going to want to be dead, and I have experienced depressive episodes over my life, and I've been able to get through them, either through talk therapy or change a medication or me all sorts of other tactics. You know, some people have like a depressive episode. They have one in their life. And they're done. And you know, I'm happy for those people. They think one depressive episode for those of us who have multiple, and we can get ourselves into treatment resistant, depression, and I had changed the medication and I had run a marathon. I change my diet. I was doing everything you should be doing except that I got deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper into a hole that I couldn't climb out of and every day in every moment of every day was haunted by the idea that I just didn't want to exist. And I resigned myself to that like, I just I just don't ever wanna be alive. Again. I'll just remain here in the state and continue continue to exist like this forever. That's where I had gotten. And I was just so profoundly exotic. When I talk to people about about my own experience with depression, particularly suicidal depression. Sometimes what I feel like I have to make clear to them as the suicide part isn't about dying. If that makes sense exactly it's about not existing exactly. Maybe you can explain the difference for people like I know that. I I I get it. I know you get it. What would how would you explain that difference? So so suicidal Asian takes on many forms. I think I don't think that's talked about enough. Yeah. I feel like what this experience has given me is the view from both sides in what suicidal. It does is. It tells you and demonize is your brain into thinking that you should no longer be here because you're wasting space in your making people's lives a burden and someone else could do what you're doing better in. If you took yourself out of the equation than you would remove the burden of yourself. And that is with a lie tells you accept that. When you know, I have two girls made the commitment to bringing two children to the world. And I knew that I couldn't leave them. I knew that I could that wasn't an option to exit their lives like they needed to be taken care of so dying was an option, but the idea of not experiencing sensation of having everything black and nothing and and not feeling the burning burning burning acids since Asian of things -iety all day long with so desirable. But I talked about being dead all the time. But I didn't ever plan to come. And that's an important distinction in one you you make in the book, and when people should remember. But I think it's that nothingness is the part that people don't get bright that because that can come a long time before the Ita Shen before the planning. And so I think we need to start recognizing that nothingness as a sign, you know, 'cause like you could have asked me a years, are you planning on committing suicide, and I would have told, you know, right 'cause I wasn't right planning on it. But did I sometimes daydream about not existing? Yes. Yeah. I think that's why I made that call to my mom. I I didn't want to reach out for help. But I think I knew that if I didn't have somebody from the outside step in that. I was eventually going to I was going to give in to the scary feelings. I had very very very scary feelings at times that overtook me, and I would have to call my mom to say, I am not okay in this moment. And there was one moment where I was like this moment is so scary that you have to come and intervene with it. And it was like a almost a subliminal like you have to come. Save me in help me. Save me that nothingness will eventually consume you to the point where if you don't read out it will kill you. Yeah. There's a saying in AA that if you if you walk into a barbershop enough eventually you get a haircut, which is kind of silly saying, but I think about that when a try to explain what that the appeal of that nothingness, right? If you dance up against that edge often enough often enough eventually it's going to the siren song, you know. And it is that at least for me. I would say it is. It was just like a a call like here's your option. Here's the option here it is. And that's what happened to me that we're night when I felt the floor and all the sudden this darkness overcame me in all these thoughts. Overcame maybes really scary thoughts that I haven't really put down into words that I don't really want to put into words because of what they mean. And I knew that if I didn't make a phone call the things we're not going to be good. Yeah. Let's talk about putting things into words because you're sort of known for putting things into words you've put a lot of things into word. Quite a view lines. You're someone that was thought to be a very confessional is not the right word but very candid writer, right? Yes. You appeared to be sharing. Lots of vulnerable things you appeared to be sharing. A lot of details about your life. So I think some people might be surprised that there was this whole period and whole thing that was happening that you couldn't share or had trouble sharing. Yeah. I you know, I took a step away from blogging. Because the industry has changed so violently. I'm gonna use that word. Yeah. The industry changed so violently and so quickly that what I had signed up to do was no longer what was making money anymore. I had to do something that I didn't sign up to do. And I had to involve my children. And so I I needed to take a step back from blogging. And during that time this depression happened, and I was very scared because my ex had moved across the country. To New York, and I live in Salt Lake City. So I'm raising my two kids by myself, and I'm trying to make a living a fulltime living. And I was really scared that if he found out just how bad I fell that. He would come after my kids, and that was the one like major fear for me that kept me from getting not only getting help. But writing about what I was going through. Nobody had any idea just how bad badly depressed. I was except for a couple of people in my life. Because I'm also refugee from web one point. Oh. I would like to just flip the page back a little bit to talk about this violent change in the industry. And then let's come back to talk about you couldn't talk about. Because you mentioned in the book that in this is sort of almost wrapped up in like what happened for you emotionally the spiral because it involved your kids do the so the way the industry changed in case, people don't know. Do you want to explain like what the industry started to require? Oh god. So you could make a really really good living off a banner ads for very long. You could just like, right whatever you wanted. And you could just run banner ads, and you could just like you break in the dollars. And if you read the article about me they start quoting a number that I've never. Made millions off the moment you are making an delicious posit you were making enough, right? Like it was making ads we're working and then like overnight like in it happened all at the same time. So overnight the bottom fell out of the banner ad market because they robotizing it. They made it into a robot who could sell what was something for seven dollars now selling for fifteen cents. And then the brands got in the brands were like, oh, so these women are doing this, and we can like get in on it in Tustin. So we're now going to get in. And then everybody got on the different platforms. You're on Instagram or you're on Twitter or you're on Facebook. In you stayed there all day long. You didn't go read anything. And that's kind of continued to today. And so not only did the bottom fall out of the banner ad market. Sponsored got involved, and then the entire readership fractured into these little portions of like only gonna repent wrist, right? So like overnight overnight it happened. And it was sudden, and you realized okay, I can adapt, and I can ride sponsored content or I can die. Well, maybe not quite so literally at the time. But yes, right. And I think it's really there's an interesting tragic irony here, which is that those banner ads allowed us to write in really vulnerable and candidate ways because you could write anything, right? You've got to you got to show your true self because the odds all the ads meant were just at all. They were just ads. Right. Exactly. And what sponsored content. Does it asks you to prostitute that inner self right? Like it says, oh, you're being vulnerable. Like you're being candid here. You know, we want wanna leverage that. And you talk about it incident in the book with your kids. Right. Like, you're trying to sponsored content and the kids had to get involved. Yeah. I call it. I did a speech about a couple of times. And I call it the fraud of authenticity. Where you think that you're reading in authentic post by somebody? When in fact, they are in that activity because they are being paid by a brand to manufacture that experience that brand. And I was in you know, you and I ever early days. I was one of the first year old assigning. I was one of the first people to sign with the ad network that it was with. And I was in this really really really good contract, which meant that. I sort of had to say yes to everything that they put my way. So toward the end. I was doing this had for the car company that was sticking me in a car with my kids driving somewhere playing word games in a har-. Like, I'm the last. Can I cuss on this podcast? Please on the last fucking mother that is gonna play fucking word games with her fucking kidding fucking car. Like, it's the last thing I would ever do in there. They are having me play a word game with my kids in three different posts. And by the third post. My kids really have to do this again. Oh god. Mom. No. My kid was just like please on me do this. I don't wanna do this. And I was like what am I doing? Like, what is this? Insane. I think there's I mean again, like, I there's this real irony to me that that people who were able to make a name for themselves by being offensive then right had to perform authenticity. And I don't know about you. But I feel like I'm kind of fucked up. 'cause there's this thing that happens. I think if you become known, and you're known as being candid or known as being irreverent, which I think both of us were, and then you also have to perform that irreverence in that candidness that. It can especially I guess if you're already prone to over thanking. Like, it makes me sort of I sometimes used to think so much anymore. But I think it's a fault with my depression is like where is my there who am I would it going? You know, like not. Yeah. Like, literally who am I, but it exacerbates imposter syndrome in this? Oh, credible way. Gosh, I was listening to this song. Can I read you this lyric jer I was listening to a song on the airplane? And this depression has made me here music differently. That guy start to hear lyrics. I listen to music that I've listened to before. And I'm like, oh, wait a minute. This person is writing about depression, or this person is writing about imposter syndrome, and there's as band called mating ritual, and they have a a song called thief in the the chorus of the song says a worked myself to the bone to find. I'm just a thief who'd run out of gold. And I heard that on the plane on the way here in like I like crying, and I was like oh my gosh. I have to go back and listen to that again and had goo back. Again. I was like that is what I felt like after all of this had happened when when the industry crashed in we were loved this sort of like the ruins around us as like I was the who run out of gold. They caught me. They caught me now is like they found out shit. Yeah. Who am I now who am I now the sponsors got involved in took over and took away the power? And now, I'm just a voice in the void. I thought about that a lot in that that sense of like, okay? There's this person that I pretended to be in. There's who I really am. You know, can I be both should I be both especially when I was reading you talk about your relationship with men. Relationship with men as I look out the window to my boyfriend. Okay. Lease pass. It's fast for me. The I connected a lot with this idea that I people think of me is being sassy, and like I said irreverent truth teller. But in my relationships with men for a long time like I wasn't that. Right. And you're right about that too. Yeah. I do. Interestingly, I it's very interesting that you bring that up with me because I have received several several several messages from very famous women that I've interacted with who watched me during my marriage and sent me messages after they have read this book and said, it all make sense. Now, it all makes sense now because you you had this persona online in you had this percent you at least had this presence with me. And then you we get around him, and you would completely close down. And it was a his his em an automatic. Reaction of mine to close down. Around men. Yes. I think it's something I've now since read about and done some work on, you know, myself, right? And I was just gonna say, it's I guess it's it's now I understand to recognize phenomenon that like strong independent went people who are like women who are strong independent. You know, go getters that there is this phenomenon that they didn't enter into relationships that are unequal. It's almost like we seek them out. In a very unhealthy way. I'm going to say, and it was I for me. I can you know, talk myself. But I feel like I was like I needed someone to be like, yes, you are an impostor. Like, that's what my kind of mental. Illness was looking for was was like, you're not that confident person you play like, right? You do need this other person to remind you of who. Really? Are you need me to remind you who you are? Yeah. Noone immed- hold you together. Yeah. In nudie, meet a holder baggage in media this review. So do you understand that like I'm here to perform duty for you you need me. Yeah. It was like. Oh, yeah. I absolutely do need you writing, of course. Right. Of course. Yeah. I'm so lucky to have you. I'm so lucky to have you around. To tell me my place. Thank you so much. We're joking about a little bit. But there is like this very I mean, it took me taking me some time. You know, it was interesting to sort of see you go through it in the book like to discover that lie for yourself. Yeah. I mean, I it was Hainault again. I actually wrote my father a letter before I gave him the book he's read a, and he wrote me a text last week because I talk a lot about sort of the trauma from my father, my childhood, and none of us as kids have talked about the trauma from my father in our childhood. He was very menacing. He had a very unpredictable temper and that temper scared us all into sort of hiding, and what it did for me. Is scared me into hiding in all my romantic relationships after I would just go sort of into hiding with what I need it or what felt or how I react to things because whatever I felt was wrong. Right. What they felt was the right thing. I think the. Term now is called gas lighting. I've heard that. Experiencing it on a national. Now. I'm like I like attracts like, I am so easily gas lighted like I attract gas lighters into my life. Crazy like a moth. Yeah. I was gonna say like I to like it took years. See? But yeah, I was like look I I just wanted to be I wanted someone to solve the impostor syndrome, but in the most unhealthy way right right to solve it by saying here the worst thing. Yes. Also of this impostor for thing for you. I'll tell you which one you are you're the lesson. Everything's now. I feel so scene. But you you're not you're not you're not actually seeing. No. I have to tell you about my amazing bra from third love. I mean, I literally have to tell you about it because they're the sponsor right now. But I also do want to share with you that I love my love bra. You know, sometimes they say you forget you're wearing it. It's so comfortable, but I will say that. 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Had knocked me flat on my back. Because I had tried so hard to be the valedictorian of being her kid. And making her happy. And when I had finally decided for me that I didn't believe in a more in this religion, and believing in certain other things she didn't accept me and hit haunted me for years and being able to say out loud in front of her changed everything between us, but she heard me in that she was able to respond in a way that was like, I can't believe that you've been carrying this around. And I feel so terrible. That I said that to you, and I have so much to learn from her in terms of her. She's guileless she's a completely guileless individuals. She has she cannot hold a grudge. She will always like forgive in try to be better. And my mother is the hero of this book. She is she really I am I'm showing up to all the readings in my boyfriend didn't understand this. I ordered like five different sequined dresses. In his what are you doing? And I was like I have to show up to the readings people understand that. I am the hero of this book. And not my mom is like people have said when they read the book, your mom is like going to be the star of the movie. Well, your mom comes off as being like the most amazing thing in the world. And she is I mean, that's the truth. I like, I quit. I think there can be two heroes to a story. You know? I mean, I what you know. What got to me about the story about your mom? Besides me having my own mom shit. That has yet to be resolved. Although, you know, what something about what you wrote did did help me. Which was the idea that she had no idea the impact that those were had on you. Yeah. And it's so easy to to not know that right for us yet. She she said to me without Christ in our in our relationship. We can no longer have the same relationship that we've had. She said those words to me. And I remember feeling like I said in the book, I felt like she was choking me when she said those words as you were held were you then I was twenty two right? In that chain that was like a pivot point pivot completely Reeve framed your relationship, your for you, it completely reframed the relationship through cramped how you felt about yourself like all these things. This whole domino effect. Yeah. And you carried it around. I carried it around and around and around and around as like Malone now Malone. No, I'm completely alone. I will always take care of myself. I'll always provide for myself of always be the one who's in charge of everything that I do. It's just me. I felt very one. In the magic, and tragic thing is how easy it was easy. I shouldn't say easy. It wasn't easy for you to talk to her. But it was simple. Maybe that's the hurt. To therapist joked that I bought her a yacht. Not her yard like I paid my therapist enough money for yacht. In order to get my mother in there to say mom, this hurt me from my mom to say. Oh my God. I'm so sorry that it hurt you or she would say, oh my heck. Yeah. Simple. But not definitely not easy. In CBT therapy. One of the catchphrases in that I'm going to people of different therapeutic catchphrases for this episode. Is check it out. Have you ever heard that? No. Yeah. It's one of the principals is like if you have a thought, right? You're carrying idea around what you need to do is check it out. Like is is the inside is the truth. I have in my head related at all to the outside world interesting in it's something that I still have to remind myself to do, you know, and it can be it can be something. Like, I have now created this idea that this piece I have do is the most important piece in the world, and like the world's going to end if I don't get it stopped perfect on time. And I can like ask a friend like this is what I'm feeling about. This. 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And I had engraved on a a bracelet that I gave her for mother's day because it was like so symbolic of what I was doing. I was literally going all the way down and. Because my heart was still beating and I've been a couple of people have asked me on this book tour so far about my relationship with religion now because we're been and your heart is independent of your brain. And I didn't know this. I learned this after the fact like your heart sort of beets, regardless of what your brain is doing. And but your, you know, your your brain controls are breathing. So they had to insert a breathing tube every time. So I never saw light. I never saw, you know, images. I never saw people. I never saw anything. It was gone. I really call it for like, a sweet sweet lovely nothingness. And I looked forward to it. I looked forward to this. You know blip in time every time I wanted because it was exactly what I have one. In for eighteen months was the nothingness. And I came to appreciate it because it because it cured me, man. I'm not getting cure, my depression, but it cured my brain enough that I felt better. And so my relationship with is I I was just like, well, this is like this is crazy is a stupid this is dome. Like, what are we doing three days a week fasting for twenty hours at a time? And then when I felt better like I completely like it was like, I can't wait. I can't wait to go under. I can't wait for that. Like little blip of complete and utter nothingness. But would you still look forward to that nothingness today? And. There are certain days. My tubes. A lot. My dog is. You know, my dog isn't necessarily on antidepressant, but she should be. And that's crazy. It's on. It's an option. I'm telling you were now, she she actually has bitten a jogger who was very forgiving and didn't see us because she ran out of the door and chase the jogger down the street. But no, I don't I don't that's the thing. Is that the difference for me the way that I explain it? I used to wake up an I would I would be so consumed with anxiety. I would start almost screaming silently. Oh, so consumed the anxiety would set fire to my body because it was like, wow. Gonna get this done. And I wake up now. And it's like, okay. Yeah. We're waking up or waking up waking up. And the delicious different not cannot be really explained. Because I don't wake up like burning. I don't wake up in a VAT of acid anymore. I wake up happy and joyful to meet the day. So. So I confess there's a part of me that wants to just like share depression symptoms with you. Yes. Like oh. Did you feel this go you felt that do you know like that that stuff because I definitely like you talk about not changing, and it just being too much, you know, to even think about like getting oh my God. Getting in the shower. That's the. You know, it just also take a shower really have to take a shower. And it's just all everything's every decision is like moving mountain, right. Yes. Like from. I'm used to stand in front of the refrigerator and not eat because I might depression when the forms of tickets for not eating a lot because I would stand in for other frigerator, and I couldn't decide I just shut the fridge wrinkle back to bed. You know, like it wasn't that. I wasn't hungry. I mean, it kind of wasn't hungry. But this the act of deciding what to eat just too too much talk too much, sue, okay? But but I don't we're not gonna do. Okay. We did a little bit of that. But I do want to start of again. So we say and want to live in the solution because you just talked about it a little bit. And it is hard to explain to people who haven't gotten to the other side what the other side feels like because I didn't even know what the other side felt like for a long time. You know, I'm still not sure sometimes I tell people it's like not getting hit by a bus every day, right? It's just that subtle one little subtle thing by a bus today. Well, I mean, I sort of made it because like every day, you you don't think normal people never think about the fact they didn't have us. Right. Right. Right. I am very conscious of the fact I didn't get hit by a bus today. Right. In that I joke, but it's also true. Like allow that realization also really allows me to just get through some of the more minor kind of blips in my life. Right. Like, oh, that's right. I didn't get hit by a bus today. I can do this like I can or not do this. That's actually also really key thing. Right. Yes. I can say no not do this. So for you living in the solution. One of the things you talk about in the book is that you practice letting go every single day. So what does that feel like? Would that feels like if I you know, it's hard? It's hard for a type A personality to let things go. I let things drop all the time. And in miraculously the world goes on right? We never believed in the state that we were in that. Life would go on if this. If this ball dropped miraculously life goes on and so much more willing. I mean, I'm still on top of my game. Gain. You're wrong. But if something drops like I'm you know, what I we'll solve that next week. We'll solve it next month for me. How I explain it to people is like being on the inside of it was the day minute's. I'd may telling me I didn't belong and being outside of it is made going, but as the stupidest thought ever had is is being able to recognize God, Heather like, of course, they're not going to be better off without you there. You're their mother, you're the best friend. You know, you're you're the one holding it together for them. You're the one providing that worked for them. Like, of course, better without you. It's knowing the difference and being able to recognize that I love being able to recognize. That I'm not getting hit by a bus. That bus just missed me against MS MU. Very close. You know, something that I get asked a lot. And I'm sure you do too is what can I do about my friend sister daughter mother cousin the? Who suffers with a mental illness, and I should be clear with people that I am a manic depressive so up just focused on the depressive stuff sometime I'll have someone on who can talk about reorganizing closets at three in the morning, but. I get asked this. And I'm sure you could ask it. What what do you say? And I'll ask you after there's a part of me. That's like should people even ask that question. Yes. They absolutely should. Absolutely. Because I answered this question in Toronto last week, and I had a friend who ruminated on it in some mean E mail inside. Those two words that you said have changed my life. And not bragging about that. But somebody in the audience. Well, what did you tell your friends? So you're going through this like, what did you say? I I said I didn't say much. I didn't want people really to know. Just how bad it was. But would I desperately desperately wanted them to understand with to believe me. Believe me. I don't wanna feel this way. I I don't want to be this way. I don't wanna look this way. I don't wanna act this way. I don't feel it leave me. Please believe me that something is wrong. In having someone believe in. I was what my mother did. My mother knew my mother. My mother looked at me. And she saw the illness in the organ of my brain. She believed it and that gift from her saved my life. And I said anybody, you know, if there's anything that you can offer a friend who is depressed, believe them. That's that's really all you have to do is like look at them in their eyes and say, I I think I know this is real this is real. Heather thank you so much. And that is it for the show. I think we kinda wrapped up, okay and got to similarly deep places. So I'm not gonna do a real long like self care monologue here. I'm just gonna remind you to get some self care. Please take care of yourself. And I will see you next week.

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Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

Mason & Ireland

1:09:40 hr | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland [HR 3]

"It Bank of California Stadium Look who's here it's our friend George Sodano who occasionally from time to time does a show yeah yeah occasional when are you coming back and we are live at Bank of California stadium the fields L. A. Restaurant getting ready for la FC versus the galaxy big night for the MLS acres of a new coaching staff and seven of the ten guys who played the other night had never played for the Lakers. Before is that me as it is fairly obvious this team needs someone who can initiate offense s and I don't think Rajon Rondo is that person necessarily he's going to be that in the short term Yeah Acre fan making excuses or is that something that's something but again it doesn't mean just because that's something that you can't find things that you can tweak or Critique Vogel is done but Dumping The ball twenty times is too much it's too much like an argument to that they couldn't stop it early on island they were nine thousand nine hundred twenty the first year with Kyrie and Kevin Love so the Lebron first year with stars tends to start slow since likes to say the Game Tomorrow Air Defense is legit even last night I watched their game against Oklahoma City Donovan Mitchell also looks like you know he kind of that third year where he's just very comfortable they adjusted all of a sudden they started mixing their coverages and they the the Lakers were stubborn in that situation there was not enough Lebron pick and Rolls Zach Lowe told me he counted six and the whole that to me is is a little bit of a cause for concern the other thing I didn't love was yes I get trying to impose your will play playing through the post which historically is something bad for the Lakers because there's no way he's duplicating that tomorrow right no he's going to have a good game tomorrow at least Danny Green George but I think it'll be a tight match up headlines still doing thanks for Lakers jazz yes I've been trying to I think the Lakers are GonNa win that game but if they lose it wouldn't be shocked right like I just did right now but it's absolutely something and I was there one Lebron with nine and eight and bummed Erik spoelstra okay I was there during all that stuff include the way this thing ended up becoming this with this right great franchise in two years reaching heights that you haven't really seen before and here that I did I couldn't see it yeah so to your to your guys this point I just think the Lakers need some time now that doesn't mean though that there aren't things you can't nitpick on for example because the person that was supposed to sit next to me that last game was Ernie Johnson I'm like there's no way Ernie he's coming he's GonNa sit in this media CDs going to sit in the box with Charles and check in those guys and on daily walks into the game here somebody goes Brad Turner Yells Hey Ernie this is your seat right here and I'm like man and I was on the roof yeah I was in Utah is a veteran you might pick to Utah to actually finished second in the West this year and the Lakers third because I think they've played together longer and I think they're gonNA put more emphasis on the regular season that's and he's going through it's starting to feel it yeah going at his own speed is not rushing himself he's not letting others rush him and he was phenomenal last night I think it was thirty two ended up with maybe like fourteen of nineteen from the field yeah Mike Conley stunk it up he was awful but I also want to sixteen Mike Conley I actually feel like that the whole game yeah and that's just not enough that was that was their game in the priests in the preseason yeah for sure so I asked Mason earlier churches it's something or nothing that then he collaborated with the fans the story goes that he collaborated with the fans from chiefs Yup brought them in and be like you don't have a team we're going to start doing this thing you're listening to Caspian Los Angeles what about the what are you doing here so I'm doing the what are you doing so I'm doing the pre-game I'm doing I think they're having me Eh Thomas in the league with us yeah he saw with the timbers were doing and he's like I think there's an opportunity to do this in l. a. and then it was all about collaboration at that point and opportunity I don't look the Lakers I heard you earlier John I was driving in and you may say it's just Oh and me he's in the League he's right you guys are going to start with and it is it is nonstop it is fantastic I've talked to other people from other MLS clubs here this week and they are jealous at the way the thirty to fifty two has rolled seen countless odd what was what were the mid eighties like those are I I was a youngster yeah three years I was a little kid yeah the it all started basically at the sh the shuttering of chiefs USA right like Tom Pen was living in Portland at the time Tom Penn is one of the owners the president team he saw what the timbers were doing have you magic because he's going to be the foul pre game and then they're having me do just kind of a thought you some thoughts on the rivalry right like if you really think about it it's pretty amazing I mean they nailed it and they did it in a timeframe which is if you would have told me that they'd have the best record in the league in their second year they made the playoffs the first is credit card yes absolutely can borrow it you can get some money interest I miss the ally tonight about everything in November the alliance will be alliance will live yes was huge and you know he had been playing in Europe for a while and he obviously plays in the Mexican national team Bob Bradley who is the most decorated coach young. Mls they got him to come back and I guess not exactly 'cause they don't have the same personnel but they would play I would say a similar style to Barcelona which is one of the greatest clubs in all of the way Dave emulated some of the greatest route that go state for half okay even watch the game from up that really yeah you're so far away with the rules should be if you can't read the numbers get out you know right guys on this roster who have mls experience it's a knockout situation so do at some point when you've you've played five matches these oh quickly like this is a a thing that caught the League by storm and a lot of ways I I've been covering sports you know my first job out of college in the mid eighties successful they were last place right the thing that's amazing is that they got soccer part of it right right Fan thing the stadiums stadium thing apparently there's a story where they sent them to wortman which is one of the greatest places to watch outs where Christian Pulisic place yeah no ninety more plays for Chelsea now okay but he showed me I would've told you they can get all that other stuff right like when the ducks came along ducks were tough ticket Disney did a really fun open and they were hugely clubs all over the world this stuff would Dorfman as far as the way they do the fan experience Barcelona the way they attack as far as their offense is concerned like all these things Dave really thought it wasn't he was there initially and the got to see that fan experience and try to duplicate that just the entirety of all that the collaboration with fans which is somewhat he does not match up well against the galaxy to galaxy has had a good year run and they've never beaten them yes what happens tonight I think the L. AFC Winston I think from the jump today I'm not sure exactly whereas mcmullin from software was asked about Andre Iguodala yeah and this is what she said half from midfield and then got the header to win it but I think that they are do more than anything else and they've been the best team in the league like that they have the best player the here and his thing was like okay but if I'm GONNA come back to mls I gotta do it my way and they were like Tom and those guys were go ahead. You've got the resume to do it George does that match what you've been hearing about Andre Iguodala Yeah I've always heard it's clippers or lakers I believe the Lakers have the end because they actually need him more impressive the fans I'm I'm telling you thirty to fifty two it's it's an unbelievable experience let me inside that standing just go and it is go coach in Europe like let's do this but you've been to the coach for the teeth for the US team like go do what you want to do that and they play very attacking style they play best team in the League it's their time right now all right so let's well we've got you here let's bounce around sickening get some NBA let me let me go do some NBA right here. Jackie macmullan is the ownership together it's really cool full state the fact that they win yeah right out of the gate is almost unheard of well they got Vela right nothing issuer and they need perimeter defense brings both is he currently under contract to another team Memphis I have no comment hey guys go in your favor and they've been in some cases have been very close up three owens lots first match right and then he came in had that crazy goal mason and I both pick Denver to finish with the most wins in the West after watching him last night I think we got I got him second one the rockets to be the biggest problem they had I thought at times was Chris wanted to push and James did it but he didn't have the relationship that Russ has impressions that I have I just want to see if you agree with them Oklahoma City is not gonNa make the playoffs but they're not going to be terrible they are not going to be feisty they're going to be like thirty something when Tiger yeah honest with you I think that there's more playing time for him with the Lakers it's a more limited role with the clippers because their wings they're plentiful there they got all day he was his agent so I think that has to play into this too so I think those relationships the opportunity is there for him and boy do they need him they do need AAC needs to bake yeah he needs to figure by analogy yeah you can use that okay I'll KABC cake I'll just I'll be ingredient there is that it's got to bake the cake and I put that on the alliance going to say it was your medicine that you're using back then I will tell you this illegal net leased ten different expansion teams I've never seen anybody get it right more than these guys it's been a year in the making where the AFC they got to the playoffs last year and they they felt what it was like to lose they've had to deal with this for a year they graduated and they've got about three or four Russ will allow James to pick up the pace more because he will push him to pick up the pace I'll need to see it I'm not buying that it's going to work I think they're gonNA they're gonNA play really hard in the regulars they're going to be an prestige GONNA tear it down east he'd be smart to do that right clear as someone who's GonNa want crispell yeah he's playing well whole thing at all right George so I added Fan I never betting its lat time masons all in with L. AFC L. AFC can we we see him in the play I think there's load management on both sides with the Lakers and I think they're still like as we discussed right like there could be a slow start for the Lakers because the feeling out so wait a minute they are loaded wing and there's the Palinka factor look for as much criticism as I've given rob at the time you and I both have given have been some he was Angel Adele may not have left in the tank but that's what this is just gonNa be so fast and we know where he's going wait a minute we know where he's going he's going to the Lakers yeah we're gonNA tear it down there already shaky Alexander looks like he can talking about trading Stephen Adams I think I if they keep it together right then women who work in the game for ESPN just said on Sportscenter Slot Ebrahimi declined our pre game interview requests for the first time since joining play this season I was banking on clay coming back at least March he's still might by the way Michael Says he's still my I thought I thought maybe eight and now I think out so so you said you've got the Lakers is five what are your four so I've GOT HOUSTON Denver Clippers Utah Lakers those are the top five John What's yours interesting to start with I couldn't get you the seat the other day I know terrible so I was going to text you there was supposed to be an empty seat next to me I assumed or making a want a game seven in their place that's what they want now they've had that before and it didn't work out but I think they I've met the owner come on now out if he gets one day I would say he's going to join you like the owners GonNa WanNa win as many games as possible yeah that Guy Tillman for Titas hyper competitive he's obsessed listen that's his book is that right that's what a coin Toss Dallas San Antonio could be the teams that can end up being seventy idea was klay comes back in March right they hang around that seven eight spot in there then there are really tough out yeah somebody I think if they end up playing like Denver they win the series like note about the game tonight the soccer game here yes all right Taylor things that they are now the nine they're now a borderline playoff team I had them at seven so basically slightly in now I think they're there it's quite well Paul George is not GonNa play until they absolutely need them up I heard about a month and so I think that they're those teams are just teams like the old LAKER teams shack mine is Denver won Utah to Lakers three clippers four that's exactly mind with Houston as the five in Portland six so we have the same party book is shut up and Listen George warriors completely missing the playoffs how about you I didn't and now that Steve Kerr saying uses the three five and three that put us on the same side of the basket you can still meet in the conference okay that's that's that's the most important thing that's all we don't matter yeah I know I saw that we'll espn we're the only three that pick up the reason I'm picking Utah and Denver's I think they're gonNA put more emphasis on the regular season I think that they're going to load my thinking is that the Lakers clippers I think are going to meet in the Western Conference finals one of those teams is going to the finest I'm picking the Lakers the Lakers to win me Monan Omar the only four one one six or visit power pro plumbing dot com Mason in Ireland. 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AFC tonight the fields is a TV stood at Game Day destination town it's become one of the best places to meet up here on the L. AFC USC the rams and enjoying credible food and drinks that's the fields la here at Bangka California's Hey George thank you very much absolutely thank you what are you point that John when John Live we're live at Bank of California stadium the field aim seven or game five dodgers Red Sox that was Nathan evolved full Super Bowl Rams patriots loss that was this jared Goff's fault Lakers clippers opener two nights ago I'm going to put that on you loss now I'm just pointing out your dodgers William Mace go someone is just waiting on tonight's L. try it soon on my side of l. traffic will read you the tweet wishing I wasn't going to be -pletely untrue I would be very worried if I was at l.. AFC Fan that Mason is supporting you I have reached the game he is attended in the air to London during this MLS playoff game varmus at L. AFC Johnny Heck Ryan Hecker there you go good for are going to get you to words they're going to try they Russell Westbrook is going different tonight is I think that there are some guys I if Carla's belly gets a goal early yeah I think that could get him going because for whatever reason there down from any but apparently not rod night not doing any of you so that's when you knew Kobe was serious is when he stopped doing media the last two years wash loss loss loss Lamar many many wins along the way John Dwell on the losses and no the Big Games wouldn't you classify this is a big game it is a big game yeah all right so how'd you do when you went to game seven dodgers Astros that one was Ju- Darvish is fall right the way the falconer tonight the Guy Mason did this early releases the Falcon flies around the stadium is Magic Johnson Yeah so yes week we're giving away a para tickets to sit in the fifth row for Lakers Grizzlies on Tuesday night the everything we say this week there is a question for Monday Tuesday Wednesday today and then tomorrow the pop quizzes tomorrow at five tonight now villa has the stage yeah so I think it'll be interesting to what refund to watch him in the first half deceived get him going because he's been the best player in the League all your best player in the League and time is probably the I in the second game season Lakers home opener we will be broadcasting live from Star Plaza right by the Magic Johnson statue so if you're coming to the Lakers tomorrow night make sure fifteen you can be in the fifth row somebody told me that what people have been doing is they if they miss part of the show they go back and listen to the podcast totally guys who perform the biggest on the big stage that would be Latin Yup and other guys do you snore great players but for whatever reason haven't had the state we'll see Lebron in a d up close that's Tuesday right think it's True Grizzlies Yeah yes charlotte Sunday Grizzlies Tuesday gotta listen OBI and even the teams with how those four yard about the they're just getting them yeah the warriors you're saying Houston you think cares about the thing they could everybody who wants to be a broadcaster believes they can someday do sports radio and we're rooting for all of you if you want to do it bring us S. player or the biggest names the loudest player in his name in the very loud Lonzo any set good success himself to God so she's the compared coach-and-four at all I mean if you look at the questions right now that I already have these are not easy if you don't have one today yet we have we can talk about the entire show but the UH so we'll see if the same way maybe he's trying to send a message to his teammates Nomar messing around let's go seven thirty is when they ended up come by I think we're giving away stuff probably we give it away stuff so right we always give we gave away stuff mason t shirts yeah yeah so that's tomorrow during Greta if you've gotta sign Mason in Ireland Lakers theme signed bring it tomorrow to Star Plaza and if you've got the best one doc you talk to him this morning and as you know we we lease a beautiful Hyundai from John it's National Lakers Jinx not put made the playoffs since you started doing the broadcast you're not the only one who thinks that the on your dot Com to learn more MASON IRELAND ESPN La. I talked about my friend John Patterson from Tustin Hyundai where it is all and he's got a great tip for anybody who needs an incredible new car for Great Price John said before you guys get stuck on an old idea dance what's the game plan with your kids tonight when you get home here's an idea for you watch the L.. AFC game talking reading singing changes everything go to I five nine the best one we'll get to come in and ask fasttrack West so have fasttrack question ready ready rice because you'll ask the question tomorrow us than any of the bars restaurants will have the game on absolutely I coming up next for you is fast track it is five twenty one sports it's going to be the first question but the rest of our that's not going to be easy you have to actually be listening to find these yeah yeah so make sure you're tomorrow jazz at the Nice thing about doing afternoons as we get to go out on the road a lot now John to be signs tomorrow you bring up you want piano think something formal tomorrow yeah I think maybe next week on the world series and and your your availability I am available but I'm keeping busy doing TV tomorrow. I'll be on I three Monday Tuesday and Wednesday do have to be listening they're kind of tough yeah especially if you see him that first one although we highlighted that we did I dated out yeah and I'm trying to think if Y- tomorrow we're live three to six six lead into Lakers frigging and that honey televise on espn tomorrow night to as well as spectrum sports net home openers for the Lakers are always fun so so that'll be if you wanna come even if you don't have tickets if you WANNA come down one of the owners who's the part owner these guys will be will be on hand should be a very fun night hey don't forget it is fifth row Friday allow it and take notes so they've got the right answers when it pops up tomorrow yeah the questions aren't hard if you're listening if you're listening you'll get them if you weren't it's like totally off to everyone says he's the best thing to happen as Hobie Bryant Tudela Brian to God Yup to people loves a lot of time because he will not ah the science where you get to be on fasttrack since we didn't do it on Tuesday check all business he's going full Kobe which is going full Komi he's like a wrestling hill is a hill yeah he is a hill you gotta test drive the amazing new twenty eighteen allot tra- from Tustin Hyundai it is packed with dozens of comfort and safety features only available on it's more expensive models there's never been a better time to save with over seventy to choose from Tustin Hyundai is giving twenty five hundred dollars in bonus cash or not anything to do with whoever happens to be supporting in an election I completely agree with you and I I would just play this to you or me we work at a you will have another civil war Hashtag mega twenty twenty drake deactivated his account deleted that tweet should be impeached and and you know the fact that he's a representative of Major League Baseball and he is insinuating political so be careful major league baseball is looking into a since deleted tweet by Longtime Empire Rob Drake According to Commissioner Rob Manford yesterday Drake tweeted late Tuesday that he planned to buy an Er fifteen rifle quote because if you impeach my president this a- and the game starts at seven thirty John It's let's see let's make this easy you're surrounded by L.. AFC Yes I am on one side of the spion even if we had tweeted exactly the opposite of that like I said this guy should be somebody drake is fifty has been a major league empire since has been a umpire since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine fulltime since two thousand ten has worked postseason and has not returned phone or text messages from reporters Joe West the President of the Major League Baseball Umpire Association declined comment when he was reached by phone gene L. AFC other side of the coin the La Galaxy who wins tonight call it in the Air I'm going tales never bet against lot want it is a win win for the community cares about the community and you can drive home in an amazing new car and still be given something back to the local school action a simple process a great value a great human being John Patterson it Tustin Hyundai it is all about you Mason Ireland Espn La Hundred Thousand Mile Warranty that is not all they are given fifty dollars to the Orange County schools when you lease or purchase a new or used car from Tustin Hyundai this James has worked all star Games now keep in mind here that at least so far drake has broken any laws he sent a controversial tweet let's say you ran baseball see well you may not agree with him he has a right to his appeal should be terminated on the spot without question has nothing to do with politics has to do with insinuating finds what is it never bet against us on if this is the whole story just the tweet which reprimanded or disciplined rob drake or which play the same Card Adam Silver did with Daryl morey that he would have an ar fifteen and use it in some sort of war to me it's the threat of violence that what is what gets him fired when they need it the most say hey John Patterson his incredible team tested Hyundai in the Tustin auto center or visit Tustin Hyundai Dot com for details a personal the Go-to time for fast track again we are live at Bank of California Stadium Getting Ready for the galaxy versus L.. AFC We're here until six thirty it doesn't need to put up with this in this case and I think because of as you point out the advocation of potential violence I think he's probably empires his last that somehow that there will be violence at some point and that he will be part of it I think where it went off the rails where over the edge was the air fifteen routes where it went wrong and I think he has every right to say whatever he wants to have his on social media that doesn't mean that there aren't consequences I think what the story we had in the first the show about the Astros assistant who was fired Yep that's a good example of it he can do and say whatever you want but the astor's don't have to put up with it and Major League Baseball doesn't put one year trial starting this season each team has one challenge per game period the coach can challenge any personal foul called against his team throughout the game in the first forty six minutes of the game I thought this one would go the other way all right John to you all right this is from Jeff Passan yet ESPN has a chance to get a little it's early in the season coaches are already using it do you think this rule will help the game and how will it make the game slower r replays and reviews getting Jay Jay doesn't exist anymore here font wow you wait around or the first three minutes of overtime the coach can challenge goaltending basket interference call against his team or any out of bounds call whereas team is not awarded possession which is our using it in the first half yes strangely what's the penalty for getting it wrong they lose a timeout oh that's it I'm just I've kind of come over to your side on replay in general less replay is probably better but I'm also in favor of getting calls right I think it's another strategic threats defencelessly you even know what you're doing there you go I think the coaches challenge is being tested by the NBA. The handed sports overall Michael and I both think it's an interesting experiment that will probably be one in done yep most what was worried about that challenge was he challenged a foul call but it was really smart challenge by Vogel the foul stood but they had given on is terrifying participants are told to expect insects touching insects touching foul language claustrophobia suffocation Bob is mercy thousands of visitors use it each year wow simple question are you in enter a horror filled penitentiary where a troubled young woman named Paula is serving time for murder the waiver alone Shen physical restraint visual representations of rape and post traumatic stress disorder the safe word to walk out at any time or out on visiting the seventeenth door completely out who does have voluntarily it sounds like a horrible experience it sounds like ah tool for coaches there's a whole bunch of things that are being experimented with a lot of them in the G. League I'm not against experimentation but my sense of Williams continuation in a basket right challenging they said foul happened before the shot and it took two points off the board so that was an effective use of a coach's challenge by Frank Week from tonight as yeah yeah a lot of hot and houses will be popping up this timing yes visitors to the seventeenth door in fullerton google good for him that's how you should use it anything that stops the game and slow the game down what's interesting is in order to enact a challenge you need to use one of your time outright that their client be considered a person in a fresh attempt to upend human dominance over this designation happy the elephant is being detained H. Group hopes it will affect the legal breakthrough that will elevate the status of elephants which his group calls extraordinarily complex creatures similar to humans that pained by the Bronx Zoo illegally due to her person hood and must be released according to herself appointed legal team the cases instigator an animal wake up right there elephants are eligible cue have represented legal representation lawyers representing I've argued a New York court the dogs may be legal persons as well do you agree or is this completely insane what's a stronger phrase then completely could have a fundamental right to liberty Stephen wise the founder and lead attorney of the Non Human Rights Project Non Human Rights Project a group has also led a quest but give me more beer samples should be one and done futch fouls chack Halloween's coming up yes today's the twenty four so the galaxy this is espn la the home of L. AFC I rolling on with fast-track live from Bank of California Stadium Ireland but that scary they can touch you every I thought tack lawyers representing an elephant have our wait a minute wait that's how they say it doesn't slow it down anymore but sometimes just don't use no it's true so yeah I think my sense of it is and Michael Census the same thing that it's one and done Reagan the dog my dog cannot go sue somebody all right no I treat people so wait a minute my dogs are people if you and I go to I been around elephants right I went to Thailand I went to an elephant reserve elephants don't you have an elephant to of size or elephant tattoo on my chest they should have statement that imparts this quote during Sunday night's cowboys game we made a mistake by not immediately interrupting the football game with a tornado warning the well I think if you know you know they can't physically harm you how are they gonNa scare you say they can touch you yeah but the catch Flemings yes can we sued by the cow. What's next come on man I'll you cannot give people rights to elephants and dog I'm just wondering if I had a question about the forty page waiver I think so yes I it is without doubt it Greg Haunted House on steroids if you don't you're accused of not protecting your viewers from severe weather so the way I see it that station had three choices Greg Wayne in this to you guys that's completely reasonable positional? I'm glad the circus went away you're not supposed to ride elephants the elephants should be released from zoos and put back in the wild into a game and go full tornado coverage the football fans go crazy indiscriminately crazy they're so mad that you're taking away the game it'd be effective you leave up that crawl until the tornado warning is over you would still be criticized by both sides using my plan the football fans would be you in or out completely out on it I'm sure there are people that liked that kind of thing and that's why there's gotta go to Universal Studios Scar what people come up and and you wish you a beeping large weather crawl along the bottom of the screen in all capital letters warn people there is a tornado coming to Dallas here the cities could me which one you would pick you keep the game on and use your social media to let people know that a Tornado NATO coverage you issue warnings you show maps of exactly where the Tornados are heading or see and this is the one I would've done you leave the game on to thousands of viewers in that area for failing to cut into the Cowboys Eagles Game Wallet Tornado plowed through a densely populated part of the city last Sunday nations said in a statement but here's the problem I've worked at a lot of TV stations and you're going to get criticized no matter what you do in these situations if you break as I could be wrong but I think it's one and done I think it should be one and done I mean I've not yet expert was there one in the game the other night I'm trying to Frank Vogel had almost right off the bat and it was ain't no an elephant is not a person an elephant I'm a dog lover so are you we treat our dive I treat my daughter they'd be

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