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Under inept leadership, U.S. mired in crisis
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Tulsa County Seven Day rolling average of new cases is now more now more than double the peak that Tulsa hit in April. The county also just reported the most new cases on a single day yet. Again, that's that's the front page of the Tulsa World in Tulsa Oklahoma today. Vice President Mike Pence recently said that the trump campaign picked Tulsa for the president's reelection rally this week specifically because they've done such a great job flattening the curve and stopping the virus there. That's not at all true. The viruses actually off to the races there and it is the worst. It has ever been throughout the duration of the epidemic, both in Oklahoma broadly and in Tulsa specifically. we will have more on that coming up. But the president announced the Tulsa campaign rally right after he moved the Republican convention out of Charlotte North, Carolina this year. Because he he didn't want to do anything. At the Republican convention to mitigate the threat of corona virus and so north. Carolina basically said no, thanks then. While in Charlotte, North Carolina here's the front page today of their local paper Charlotte, news observer quote Governor Cooper asked pence for help with testing. And again you can see the lead there above the fold governor Roy Cooper says he's spoken with Vice President. Mike Pence about the states. Corona virus infections, and the need for testing the governor says the State is monitoring hospital capacity as new infections in North Carolina hit record numbers in the past few days. As have hospitalizations and North Carolina? On that front page you can also see the other major headline above the fold page. A one is about how the state's nursing homes are unable to contain the corona virus at this point. The president has also reportedly decided to do another campaign in Alabama sometime soon. Well, here's the front page of the Montgomery advertiser today. Virus infections rise among Alabama prison staff. Here's the lead Corona virus story at live right now. Hospitals in several Alabama cities now seeing all time highs in corona virus, patients quote the number of covid nineteen patients in hospitals in Birmingham Tuscaloosa, Montgomery indicator has hit all time highs this month filling beds and taxing staff as the state struggles with a wave of new cases. Alabama. Here's the front page at the Arizona. Republic tonight. Arizona reports record high new covid cases. And then here's big front page Feature Story Today, headline I am taken aback. Here's why Arizona's Covid nineteen trajectory is concerning, and here's the leader of that story where you can see. They got the quote for that headline. From the perspective of Arizona Emergency Room, physician Dr Murtaza Actor, the covid nineteen pandemic. Here could be even worse than the state's numbers are showing doctor doctor says quote. I am taken aback I walked into the hospital today and I was like Oh my God. Dr Actor who both Floors Hospital and Valley wise. Health Medical Center in Phoenix says quote. We are getting all sorts of patients who looked quite sick. Paper Continues Trend Lines are moving up and Arizona. Total hospitalizations have doubled since April the number of new daily cases reported by the state have recently reached record levels. Doctor Doctor says quote. It's very important for people to know that whatever your politics may be whatever your family members may be doing. Whatever you WANNA. Do for fun. There really is a huge pandemic. It is important to distanced even if you weren't sick. In Arizona's second largest city, in Tucson as of yesterday morning the Tucson Medical Center had just one remaining bed available in its ICU. One ICU bed left. Tucson Medical Center spokeswoman Julia strange writing in an email to the Arizona republic quote. We have been very constrained within our ICU because of the recent spike in covid nineteen cases. The, Republican reprints these graphs from the Cova tracking project showing the kind of company that. Is In right now. Take a close look at that What that is you see the headline their daily positives. That's the graph of daily numbers of positive cases in Texas and Arizona and North Carolina and South Carolina. Look at how steeply those numbers are rising. This also from the covid tracking project is the graph of hospitalizations in the states again Texas Arizona North. Carolina South Carolina. That's bad. In Texas, they have just set five consecutive days of record hospitalizations, and this is the front page of the Texas Tribune. Right now Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott assuring. Texans that there are plenty of beds plenty of hospital beds to go around. Never mind the five straight days of ever increasing record numbers film up. They can take way more. So it's okay. If the daily number of new infections keeps hitting new records as well, let's just see how high we can go I mean you see the secondary headline on the front page there which is a little discordant with that message from the Governor Secondary Headline on the front page of the Texas. Tribune tonight is this Texas, Governor Greg Abbott blames people in their twenties for the latest increase in Corona virus. It's kind of a hard sell right to pick somebody to blame. If you're simultaneously denying that the huge increases in corona virus, transmission and new cases in your state are any sort of problem. Right because you got plenty of hospital beds to fill up with sick and dying Texans. We can take them all make more. Some Texas cities and communities WANNA, put in place new mitigation measures to try to slow down the spread in Texas. But the governor made clear today he will block any Texas cities and towns and counties from doing that. Because again his approach fill 'em up. There's lots of room for people to die here. Lots of beds to fill up with sick and dying people. Plenty of room. Service. The vice president today wrote an OP. Ed in which he said that the state of the US Corona virus. is in his words. Quote Cause for celebration. Cause for celebration. He said thanks to the leadership of president trump. We are winning the fight against the invisible enemy. I want to put something on the screen here. If you're doing the dishes and not watching what I'm doing just you might want to look at this for a second. Up in the upper left hand corner. You have these graphs. That's Italy how they have dealt with their epidemic and the upper right hand corner there. That's Spain. That's how they've dealt with their pedantic and the lower left hand corner. That's France. That's the shape of their epidemic overtime. Now let's put us up there. Let's put the United States there for comparisons per per comparison saying. Yeah, that's us. That's what the US government is calling cause for celebration. Closing in on one hundred seventeen thousand Americans dead, and we appear to be doing. Something might reasonably call peak plateauing all these other western industrialized countries, these allies of ours that got hit hard early like we did. They did actually succeed in bringing their numbers, basically back down to their baseline or close to it, but us no way we are just plodding along steady as she goes with the biggest epidemic on earth, the deadliest one already, and we are just holding forth now at twenty thousand plus Cases Day. More than twenty cases seeing daily increases in their number of cases this week. The New York Times, reporting that Vice President Pence, told governors on a call yesterday that they should stress in their public remarks that the reason it might look like case. Numbers are getting worse and lots of states. It's just because of additional testing, not because we've got any problem with persistent and even growing epidemic. That, advice from the vice president is not borne out by what's actually happening with the numbers in the states where case numbers are outpacing the rate of the rate of testing. And where the percentage of positive test results is going up in multiple states. Vice President Pence also apparently told the governor's that they should play up what a success reopening has been. which sounds like an awesome thing to want to be able to say until you look at the front pages of local newspapers around the country I mean. Here's the Miami Herald Front page, today Miami and Miami Beach Mayor Sound Alarm on Covid nineteen increase Miami is one of the places nationwide. That is now considering stopping or rolling back reopening efforts because of exploding case numbers and record hospitalization numbers. Miami's considering that fills considering that Utah Oregon. And counting we through all that national discussion about reopening well, we're now entering into the part of the botched reopenings. That's GONNA lead to a big national discussion about losing. Unless of course, you are buying the White House is selling. Vice President pence in his at op Ed today, saying any panic over a so called second wave. is quote overblown? Tonight we're going to speak with the top infectious disease doctor at the University of Alabama, which is treating a record number of corona virus patients as of today along with many other health facilities and her state. she may actually agree with Vice President Pence on that that that second wave idea at least in this one specific sense Her name is Dr Jeannie Murat so and she announced it a public update for the University of Alabama yesterday quote, it is a real increase in the cases that we are finding people ask about a second wave. I've been saying. We never stopped having. She says quote. I think that we now. Have just widespread sustained community spread. There's so much infection there. You could go anywhere and potentially be exposed. It's been an unfortunate series of days of record setting. Gallup is speaking with that infectious disease doctor from the University Alabama later later on this hour. But. The White House says it's all over. The White House says it's cause for celebration that we have won. This thing is done. Let's pile nineteen thousand people into an indoor arena in Tulsa for the largest indoor congregate event in the Western Hemisphere, since the onset of the global pandemic, and we'll do it in the country that has the worst epidemic on earth in a place that has ongoing widespread community transmission with no relief in sight. And let me just say one other thing about this about the White House saying there is cause for celebration and the American Corona virus disaster. It turns your stomach in one direction. To look at one hundred seventeen thousand Americans dead and say that's good news cause for celebration. But there's something even more disturbing about the white. House telling us that there's cause for celebration when you look at not just where we've been where we are going. You might have seen yesterday that forecasters at the University of Washington have updated their projection for the course of the US epidemic. This data group whose models the White House used to promote. Incite all the time at the White House. When their, model? was was this model from the University of Washington was was based on the premise. The expectation that we were going to have a competent response as a country so their initial projections, which were modeled internationally on successful things that other competent governments did to contain this thing. Their initial projections from the University of Washington looked pretty rosy from the white. House's perspective in terms of how things were going to turn out in terms of how many Americans were going to die. But those premises those expectations were wrong. We didn't respond in a coherent effective way as a country given how we have actually responded as a country. They've had to revise their model. They've had to revise their projections and their new forecast from the university. Of Washington is that over two hundred thousand Americans will be killed by this thing by the time September is over. And let me just put that in perspective in terms of the White House. Saying the the vice president, saying our corona virus epidemic today is cause for celebration. Let me put that in perspective this by. As a country! It took us this long to get from our first case on January twenty first. To one hundred thousand dead Americans on May. Twenty eighth took us one hundred twenty nine days for this K- this thing to kill one hundred thousand Americans This new forecast from the University of Washington is that our next hundred thousand dead will take even less time. That, it'll take one hundred twenty seven days for the Corona Virus Body count to climb from one hundred, thousand, two hundred thousand debt Americans the paces holding steady, maybe even picking up just a little bit. This. Is what the White House today calls cause for celebration. And it's like this is a tragedy that is unfolding separate and apart from the federal government. The parts of the response for which the government has direct responsibility continue to be the deadliest and worst handled. Of this American disaster. The Wall Street Journal, reporting today that among the one hundred sixteen thousand plus American deaths it Nell looks like over fifty thousand of those deaths can be attributed to nursing homes and long term care facilities fifty thousand Americans dead in those facilities. It just rocks you to your core. In, terms of responsibility for that, the federal government regulates nursing homes in this country directly. But the federal government's response to this problem where fifty thousand Americans have been killed already continues I, mean it continues to be basically non-existent, the trump administration who had cms who heads the part of the federal government that regulates nursing homes. Yesterday did a photo op event with the president at the white. House where she said that American nursing homes by and large have done great. Yeah nothing to worry about. Other than fifty thousand people dead in those facilities, this comes as ABC News today obtains a recording of a call between FEMA and nursing homes, in which a FEMA officials starts apologizing for FEMA and the Federal Government, sending American nursing homes expired broken an inappropriate gear. Female apologizing to nursing homes for sending them junk. They can't use and this is something. We've been hearing from nursing homes who've been puzzling through what do with the fact? Look at her hands. Look at the arms. Nursing homes puzzling through what to do with the fact that they may not have access to testing. They may not have gotten any help with their staffing needs with infection control protocols, but the federal government has found time to send them random crap like these punk show things things that that don't have holes to stick your arms through. Look at that. Female apologizing, but that's what the federal government has done for nursing homes. Federal government the White House also took it upon itself to issue that executive order mandating that meat processing plant stay open even as local health authorities wanted to shut them down because meat processing plants all over the country. We're turning out to be super spreader facilities where thousands of people were getting infected with the virus, well amid lots of chest, pounding from the administration and claims from the big meat processing companies about how that presidential order was to stay open was a necessary move to keep American dinner tables and American grills supplied with adequate supplies of meat. Today The New York Times reports that actually what the meat companies did during that time. When president trump ordered them all to be open, despite what local authorities might want one American meat companies did during that time. Is that in April? They exported more American pork to China than they had ever exported before. It was a record. The president intervened to keep these plants open, creating known huge clusters of infection, hundreds and thousands of people got Corona virus also China could receive record US meat exports. An American towns and cities and counties where these plants are where these huge locust of infection are located and were forced to stay open. They can pay the price in terms of having hundreds and thousands of infections in their communities. We are a poorly run country right now. And this is a bad time for it. We are a poorly run country right now, and among other things. We have the body count to show for it. And that is one thing when we are the deadliest country in the world right now with this incredibly botched response to this epidemic right, the largest case count in the world, the largest body count in the world, and another eighty five thousand of US slated to die over the next four months at the same torrential pace that we have been dying over these last four months. But you know it's one thing to think about that domestically, in terms of how poorly run we all right now how incapable we are pursuing even our own interests and saving our own lives. Because of how badly run, our government is at a time that we need government. But we're not alone in the world and the world, and it's threats and challenges are not taking a time out for this. And US being very poorly. Run right now has consequences for that stuff to? Mean stuff is happening. Stuff is in motion today on the disputed border between India and China in the Himalayan mountains, a long simmering dispute erupted between Indian and Chinese soldiers, which reportedly resulted in twenty Indian soldiers, being killed. This is the deadliest violence on that part of that border since the seventies. And of course India and China are both nuclear powers, and they're both basically ascendant and pretty aggressive right now eager to show their strength. How about a Nash- An international standoff between nuclear-armed India and China. Had States in a good position to delicately handle what needs to happen in terms of that kind of a standoff? Today you might have woken up to headlines like this one about North Korea quote, blowing up a joint liaison office dramatically raising tensions with the south with South Korea. And if you're like me seeing that headline, you might not have realized at first. That headline is meant in a literal sense. This is a proverbial thing. This isn't North Korea blowing up in some diplomatic Fu ferrall I always having with south. Korea this was literally North Korea blowing that thing up. Bombing bombing this Joint Liaison Office. It's a sort of defacto embassy used in the border region between South Korea North Korea. North Korean dropped a bomb on it and blew it up today. That probably resolve well, what could possibly go wrong? The president has incredible faith though in the sobriety and wisdom of the North Korean leadership. At the end of his new book exercise of Power Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates. has this sort of dark, but also sort of hopeful take on how president trump has talked about leaders like North Korea's Kim. Jong UN see has been president gates, says this he says quote Americans I think understand the value of allies, and how they are unique asset for the United States especially compared to both China and Russia, neither of which have any. He says quote. I believe. Most Americans want our country to stand for something beyond just our military strength and economic success. A lot of people are uncomfortable. He says with an American president. cozying up to autocratic foreign leaders full of praise for how wonderful they are and siding with them on issues while deriding American government institutions. We must work with these leaders, but we don't need to say we love them. Robert Gates his new book exercise of power. Russia this week sentenced an American in Paul Whalen to sixteen years hard labor for allegedly spying against the Russian government. Waylon proclaims his innocence. He has asked. Out Loud and in signs that he's held up during his trial, he's UH specifically for president trump to speak out forcefully and. To, get Russia to release him. We shall see. Couple of weeks ago, we learned from the Russian government. That president trump had taken a call with President Vladimir Putin. We tend to usually learn these things from the Russian side. That call happened on the day that Latimer Putin announced he would generously give the Russian people the opportunity to vote on whether or not he should have sixteen more years in power Russia's leader. Putin has already been in power for twenty years now. He's changing the Russian constitutional framework to let him go for thirty six years in power, which is a heck of a presidential term. So. The day that he announces that he's going to do that. He has a call with president trump. Record at least from the White House side that our president expressed any objections or concerns about that in their call. What the Kremlin says they discussed in that call is the idea of letting Russia back into the g seven. Russia what was kicked out of what used to be the G. Eight for invading neighboring and taking over part of it for itself? They're still in that status. So there's no clear reason why they should get the reward of getting back into the g seven, but they want it and president. Trump did start reiterating publicly that he wants it to happen the other g seven countries, including the UK and Canada probably said they would veto any such thing. And then in fairly quick order. German Chancellor Angela. Merkel's said she wasn't interested. In coming to the g seven in the US in person this year, the g seven meeting that the US is supposed to host the year was. Quickly just scuttled altogether. So there will be no g seven meeting this year hosted by the United States, not even zoom. They're just not doing it. President trump wants Russia in there. and. Russia's not going to get in there and there's not going to be any seven. I will also just mention that president trump has unilaterally announced within the past week that he's taking thousands of US troops out of Germany. Another inexplicable gift to Russia, which wants that very badly. A gift to Russia that was apparently announced by president trump without any consultation, not only with Germany or other allies, it was apparently announced by president trump without consulting anyone in the Pentagon or in the US State Department. He just announced he's going to do it. Thousands of US troops pulled out Germany. This comes as the president's. Attorney General has moved to drop charges against trump national security advisor Mike Flynn for pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about his communications with the Russian government about sanctions against them for them interfering in the two thousand sixteen election, it comes as the president appears to be publicly promising pardon or some other kind of intervention to save from prison, one of his campaign advisers who was convicted of multiple felonies in conjunction with his efforts to help the dissemination of the information that Russia's stolen that election to try to influence the outcome. House Democrats announced today that they will take whistle blower testimony next week from a federal prosecutor. Who quit that case after the attorney general intervened to try to lighten that sentence for that trump advisor convicted in conjunction with the Russia investigation. We are not a well run country right now. In our disastrous and still cratering relationships with our allies. In our submarine of international institutions that we not only helped set up, but that we have bolstered for decades because they're in our own interest as well as in the interest of world, peace and stability. In our inexplicable and troubling relationships with our supposed adversaries in our basic adherence to things like the appearance of the impartial rule of law, which is fundamental to our basic self worth as a civilization in our botched incoherent, fatally mismanaged response to the largest deadliest public health disaster in a century. We are poorly run. It's bad. And of all people, Robert Gates his new book. Makes the case that. Actually, it's really bad. Fat. As he says quote. Our BRAGGADOCIO, the overall trend for us in the global arena has been negative. He says. How did our country goes so quickly from unique global power to a country that is widely perceived as no longer willing to bear the costs or accept the responsibility of global leadership? And no longer even capable of governing itself effectively. Yeah, how how did we do that so quickly? Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates joins US live next. Lately you've probably been relying on your WIFI connection more than usual between working from home, managing kids, schoolwork, shopping, online or binge watching your favorite shows devices, your private information is more exposed than ever and cybercriminals keep finding new ways to take it every time you bank shop or browse online. You can be vulnerable to Cybercriminals, so Norton lifelock is giving you more. 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A podcast about everyday people and the power that politics policy and pandemic have in shaping our lives new episodes every Monday and Thursday. At a time when we face unprecedented transition amidst two wars I've asked secretary Robert. Gates to continue as Secretary of Defense and I'm pleased that he's accepted. Two years ago, he took over the Pentagon and difficult time. He restored accountability. He won the confidence of military commanders and the trust of our brave men and women in uniform as well as their families. I am deeply honored that the president elect has asked me to continue as secretary of defense. Mindful that we are engaged in two wars and face, other serious challenges at home and around the world. And with a profound sense of personal responsibility to and for. Our men and women in uniform and their families. I must do my duty as they do. There's. How could I do otherwise? Tape from our country from our nation's capital from not long ago just over a decade ago, but in our current times. Doesn't it feel like that's being broadcast from a different planet right December two thousand eight president elect Barack Obama Vice President elect Joe Biden Secretary of State Nominee Hillary. Clinton Robert Gates the actively serving defense secretary under outgoing Republican President George W Bush being tapped to stay in the job. Was the first time in American history that a new president had kept on the defense secretary from a predecessor of a different party. Robert Gates has had more than fifty years as a public servant in this country, the national security field he served eight presidents during his career, including Secretary of Defense to to served under four different presidents in National Security Council roles. He was director of the CIA. Public servants like that. WHO spent a career developing expertise and how the government works. who think of themselves as serving the office of the presidency as much as the person who happens to be holding it. People are completely absent from the upper levels of the current administration. some have tried to work for. This president hasn't worked for them. And so when you pick up Robert Gates his new book, which is called Exercise of power American failures successes a new path forward in the post cold, War World. About his time serving all those presidents and what he has learned about the nature of American power. It can feel a little bit like Robert. Gates is beaming in not just from another time, but from another planet and I mean that in the best possible way because our planet right now is troubled. Joining us now for the interview, I'm honored to say his former Defense Secretary Robert Gates his new book as I. Mentioned is called Exercise of Power Mister Secretary. Thank you so much for taking time to be here tonight, so honored to have you. Thanks for inviting me Rachel. You Have A. Sort of mock yourself a little bit in the book for being a glass half empty kind of guy for being a doom and doom and gloom, Sayer but the book as constructive as it is, does take pretty dark role of America situation in the World Jiu. Essentially say that for twenty five years. Things have not been going our way. And that there are serious signs of decline in terms of our influence in the world. What do you think are the most important ones? I think two things have happened. That are major in terms of the way. The rest of the world perceives US I was our economic crisis in two, thousand, eight, two, thousand, nine, which. Led the rest of the world to wonder where whether our economic model actually work that whether American capitalism was the path to follow. And then what we've seen over the past number of years, which is a complete paralysis of our political system, our inability to address any of the. Major problems facing our country whether it's infrastructure or immigration or race or a host of other issues, and and so you have the perception that both the economic in the political model. Are Not working very well, and the rest of the world has noticed this, and frankly our adversaries are rival in particular. China are taking advantage of that the I would say that. Another piece of it obviously is the fact that the country has been at war for nearly twenty years, and and it has exhausted the patience of the American people with an international leadership role, because it's been conflated with being the world police. So if we are going to try and be the in bust, be have a leadership role internationally, it has to be in a different framework. One of the hallmarks of your time as secretary of defense was how outspoken you were! The. I don't WanNa say overuse of the US military, but essentially starting to look at the use of military forces, a first resort rather than a last resort and you were very outspoken. In Your Times Defense Secretary, and also in the book about the need to build up and resource and use other forms of American power that the use of four should always be last, and we should sharpen and build. All other ways that we can preserve our influence. I've always thought that was a very interesting role. That you play is sort of a public intellectual and practitioner on that and I'm curious because about what you think about this strange new wrinkle that we've just had in terms of the use of. The American military where the president has talked about using active duty, US troops in American streets. I know you've been critical of what happened. In Lafayette Square but I wonder if you could talk about. Why. That's why that's problematic. Why it troubles you why you see that would be a why. Why do you think that would a mistake? Well first of all I think it's important to understand the difference between the National Guard and and the regular army. Regular Army, the eighty second airborne the Tenth Mountain Division these are these troops are trained primarily to do one thing, and that is to kill our enemies. I mean just to stated of bluntly as it needs to be stated the National Guard on the other hand are are people from the community you saw some of the interviews of. Guardsmen expressing their concerns about what had happened with their the use of their. Units in the at Lafayette Square and so on, but those National Guard troops takeoff those uniforms the next day and go to work in those towns in those cities where they where they come from, and they're trained in crowd control in. They're they have great relationships often with law enforcement. And and so I, think one of the reasons you saw. Strong reaction of many of the former military leaders was was the notion of using the insurrection act which allows the president use. Regular military forces domestically was. Involved the use of the regular army in in domestic affairs, and it and it. Compromised it had the danger of compromising the a political nature of our armed forces in the Armed Forces Rachel are about the only institution left in the United States that have the respect of nearly all Americans. And in our current and former leaders very concerned about compromising that and so that's why. I think you've got the strong reaction that you did from people like Admiral Mullen former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Dempsey another former chairman and so on. One of the things that you write about eloquently in the book is the utility. The short term and long term utility of having good communication skills as a country by being able to tell our own story about being able to sort of. Participate in ideological combat trying to win the argument around the world particularly against rising authoritarianism. And you right with some regret about how some of those skills some of those ways that we do that as a country have been defended and weakened over time because of that. I wanted to ask you about this recent controversy very recent controversy involving Voice of America. Voice of America is an interesting part of the US sort of quiver. In in that regard, they are into independently. Editorially independent of their obviously part of the US government we've had the president install somebody who's perceived as a real ideological loyalist there and we just had the director and assistant director resigned suddenly in their apparently, not being replaced at least not yet. Are you worried about V away? Are you worried about those types of? Capacities of the US government during the trump presidency. I'm worried that our entire strategic communications capability has been dramatically weakened since the end of the Cold War, you know in the late nineteen nineties because of budgetary and other reasons the US Congress eliminated the United States Information Agency this this was an agency under Ronald Reagan and John F., Kennedy and Dwight Eisenhower under leaders like Edward R Murrow and Charlie Wick and the raising in the Reagan administration, had enormous influence and enormous reach around the world and one of the reasons that VOA was so important, was that people around the world in Eastern Europe, and in the Soviet Union when they could get voa believed it gave them an honest. Objective view of what was going on in the world. The VOA also would report what was going on the United States and the truth is most presidents really got annoyed by what the OA sad about what was going on in the United States because it was often very revealing about and very honest about problems. We had here internally. But it had a great deal of credibility around the world, and there were other radios than originally operated by I like radio, Free Liberty Radio, Free Europe Radio Liberty and others, all of those have basically been dismantled, and and so when you have a country like China that has a global communications strategy, and they've invested billions and billions of dollars in it in acquiring networks. And a broadcasting to every country in the world, and and owning that works in various countries, so we don't have anything comparable to that today and in this rivalry we're going to have. We have with China going forward. We're going to need these kinds of tools. Because if we're lucky and we're smart, we can avoid a military conflict with China, but that means that the that the rivalry will take place using the non-military instruments of power and strategic communications is one of the most important. The Chinese have enormous assets in taking this on We're very limited at. At this point, and and that's why these controversies, but also the lack of funding, and and frankly the lack of imagination than aggressiveness in using our strategic communications capabilities is is so bothersome to me I mean why haven't we been more aggressive in telling the Iranian people about the corruption of their leadership might have be. Why haven't we told the Russians during the Russians interfere with our politics all the time and try to divide us and stuff. Why aren't we going into the Russians getting past their firewalls and talking about the corruption of Putin and his henchman? Don't do that kind of thing, and and frankly it's going to be very necessary going forward in the world where the disadvantage because we've, we've basically eliminated or reduced dramatically the funding for almost all these non-military instruments of power. That's really what. It is what the books about and you speak about it from incredibly authoritative position, having been secretary of defense to two different president's talking about the erosion of non-military forms of power. It's just a unique. And really public, spirited perspective that I'm grateful to hear more about former defense. Secretary Robert Gates. Thank you so much for taking time to be here the again the book is called Exercise of power, American failures, successes and a new path forward in the post Cold War world good luck with it, sir, thanks again for being here. Come back anytime. Thank you very much. Much more to get to tonight, stay with us. Breaking News for you from Montgomery Alabama I'm just GONNA. Read to you directly from this story in the Montgomery, advertiser that was just posted the headline Montgomery City Council votes down. Mass Ordinance Sends Doctors Out in disgust. Jackson Hospital, which is in Montgomery, Alabama Jackson Hospital, pulmonologist Williams solicited cleared his throat, as he started describing the dire situation created by the coronavirus pandemic in Montgomery to its city council before they voted tonight on a mandatory mask ordinance. He said quote. It's been a long day. I Apologize. He said quote. The units are full with critically ill cove. Patients about ninety percent of them are black. He said hospitals are able to manage for now, but it is not sustainable. He said quote. This masks lose that down five percent protection from something as easy as cloth. If this continues the way it's going, we will be overrun. More doctors followed them to the microphone, describing the dead being carried out within thirty minutes of each other and doctors, being disturbed and people on the street. Ask them if the media is lying about the pandemic as part of a political ploy. After they spoke before the council voted on a proposal to mandate mask-wearing and public and Montgomery. One Councilman Brantley lions questioned whether masks and six foot. Distancing really helps they do. The doctors replied lines was unmoved from the crowd. Doctors called for him to visit the hospital sometime. Instead the Council Killed The ordinance after it failed to pass in a four four tie mostly along racial lines. Trio of doctors who waited hours to speak got up and left the chamber in disgust. Unbelievable Dr Celeski, said William Boyd One of several people who spoke in favor of the ordinance, said he lost six family members to covid nineteen. Boyd said before the vote quote. The question on the table is whether black lives matter. Just happened tonight in Montgomery. Alabama we've got more ahead. Stay with us. I think that we now have just widespread sustained community spread. There's so much infection out there. You could go anywhere and potentially be exposed. People ask about a second wave here and I've been saying. We never stopped having first wave. That is Dr Jeanne. So who is the director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham Hospital? They're set a record this week for Corona virus cases, which is part of what appears to be wide surge in Alabama now. Dr Jean Murat joins us live now from Alabama. Doctor I really appreciate you taking the time. Thanks for being here. Happy Rachel thanks for having me. When you talk about widespread sustained community spread. What should we understand from that what I take from that? Is that the the rise? We're seeing an Alabama. Case number shouldn't be seen as an artifact of just increased testing or something that there is there is a real rise. And that it can't be assigned to any any one specific problem. Yeah exactly a lot of times people make the case that the increased effort to test people is what's explaining the increased rate of detection that can be true, and that's almost certainly contributing, but there are a couple of other metrics. It's really important to follow and one of the things. I talked about yesterday that we're looking very carefully at is the average positively over the course of the last week or the last two weeks. If you look at the average percent, positive tests in the state of Alabama over the last two weeks, it's been about. About eight percent and you can contrast that to someplace, that is well past the peak of their epidemic like Seattle where it's now below two percent in the last seven days that percent prevalence, or that percent positive rate is now up to fourteen point five percent, so yes, we're testing. More were also detecting more the other thing that's important to know is that for the last week pretty much. Every county in the state has reported new cases every day. which tells you something about how diffuse the infection is in the community very much so. How are Alabama hospitals doing in the face of this I? Know that it's not. Uniformly happening the same in every corner of the state in Alabama is a big place, but we spoke with the Montgomery mayor raised the alarm about hospital capacity. In his State, I know that your facility and you is having its own strains right now. How do you think that hospitals in the state or coping? I think that the hospitals in Montgomery are really being challenged right now, there. ICU's are smaller considerably smaller than the ICU's here that we have at UAB. and they're being very much maxed out there. Ventilators are being maxed out even equally important their staff, so I think people aren't paying attention enough to the fact that you know healthcare workforce is not an inexhaustible supply. People can ship ventilators in. You can try to ship people in, but the people who are working really really hard to care for. These patients are facing serious exhaustion not to mention the psychological. Psychological stress of seeing patients die and having to deal with all the concerns about getting infected here in Birmingham were actually doing fine. We've actually had a very steady senses of people with covid nineteen between forty and sixty five since March it's feels like groundhog day here. Basically just get up and you see the same thing I wouldn't be surprised if we do see an increase if this trend continues, and we start to see people being transferred from other parts of the state where they can't be adequately cared for in those hospitals that we're talking about. Actor Genie Murata Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Alabama at Birmingham. We've been watching Alabama's closely as we can from here, we want to stay on the story. Please come back. We'd like to be apprised about how things go good luck to you and your staff. Thanks very much. All right, we'll be right back. Stay with us. One last bit of breaking news before we go political has just reported that senior Pentagon official Elaine. mccusker is resigning from the Department you see the headline there Pentagon official who questioned Ukraine aid freeze resigns. mccusker is a career civil servant. She saw her nomination for a Senate confirmed position at the Pentagon withdrawn by the White House in March. After emails she sent related to the Ukraine fiasco email. She sent questioning the legality of holding up. Military Ukraine became public as part of president. Trump's impeachment trial might remember. She sent the e mail that said to the trump. White House official quote. You can't be serious. I am speechless. That scuttled her nomination for a higher ranking job now tonight. She has resigned or resignation as apparently effective ten days from now. 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January 2020: A Year in Review and Looking Forward
"Welcome to the encouragement ride. PODCAST brought to you. Live and direct with limited or four no commercial interruptions from our home and beautiful Gluck Stat Mississippi to wherever you find podcast with your hosts that quarter ton of riding hiding fun the sultans of cycling safety those braggadocious Behemoths Jimbo Rally and Kelvin Jones. Remember folks these two. We're a quarter of a ton so you don't have to take it away. Boys everybody walking to the encouragement ride. Podcast we are doing the first taping of Two Thousand Thousands Twenty Kelvin Jones Quarter Tuna Roddy Fund studios and collects that Mississippi and we got a we got a new partner in this. So I guess we're going to be now. Three quarter ton of Writing Fund. We got caught HAIRSTON. Calvin how has your year greetings and citations. My friend Yeah this is a been a been a nice year. We've actually been the weather's trying to cooperate with actually been trying to get some rides in during the winter months and staying being active in trying to stay up on our writing abilities and and you know what I got for Christmas I give up fat. That's what I got. I got that and what about you. How's everything with you? Go on good one good have been joined it because my son's getting involved and it's fun once you don't get excited about it and different types of running and stuff like that and he's really enjoyed it. Well let's talk about that. So how does your son. Chris is twelve twelve so I saw a lot of people who may be listening to the podcast. Maybe thinking you know what does the twelve year old do on a bicycle. But there's something that we have here in. Mississippi called Mississippi Blue's mountain biking team and how many how many twelve year olds are on there. It's great sixth through twelfth morally younger. Okay most of them are on because you can actually be high school age and be on the mountain biking team correct. Okay and where do you guys Ryan at. They practice Bicycle the revolution hearing loss and like a spin class that they do every Monday night and then every Sunday we try to do not what practice man walking skills but you know tomorrow there on. Close the trice because everything money right now night. The national traits here in Jackson Mississippi area and then they race against other mountain biking teams. Yes they do in Alabama. There's not a circuit here in Mississippi so the season. There's a rice every the other weekend in the springtime and will be going on there as many as we possibly can. Okay so what about other states. Do you know anything about Tennessee or Louisiana. Louis Theon or Arkansas is just. We're we're kind of like lumped in with Alabama we've We've put together a team that goes on there and rises. Because there's nowhere to arrive here. How many people are on the team here locally? You know I'll say about what the oldest you have any idea. I music like a senior in high school. I don't think so. I think what won't be the oldest one he sixteen sixteen. Say goes from in your son. Chris's twelve so we're looking at a team of a dozen kids between the ages of twelve and sixteen go and compete every couple of weeks at a different race around the around Alabama. Oh yes wow. That's pretty interesting. It's pretty cool. He didn't have anything like that when we were growing up. I don't think now now it was see. How far are we could hit a house with an egg? And and when you when you go over to Alabama how many teams do you race against you have any idea a lot of them. This is his first year to do it. So what we have to come back and give us a reward because if our listeners out there if they have children may be between the ages of twelve and senior high school and ride bikes and might be worth looking into the local bike shop to ask and see if there's any kind of like high school bike riding team or something like that because high schools are doing things. Now that we didn't have we grown up. I mean there's bowling teams. There's archery team us. There's Lacrosse teams James. I mean Cross has been around in of nor for a long time in the south. It's fairly new you know so. There's there's new sports that people are coming into that. We're not we're not familiar with and I'm wondering in a good friend of mine. His son actually is in Mississippi State Bass fishing team new those bass fishing teams in college. It's now high school. Yeah and so. I'm wondering if if there's going to be any kind of thing where you can get like a scholarship for mountain biking or something I west. They have Matt Mike Tapes at collegiate level. Do they're they're more club. Teams like Ole Miss Memphis University. They get cycling teams right the club level but in some of the the school's out West where they don't play football played college baseball basketball. They're starting to get more into the adventure. Sports try on teams cross country. Names actual uh-huh so yeah he's an emerging he's an emerging market is. He sounds like he's right at the edge of the ahead of the wave. It's a very good thing And you can see it on the soccer field. That's the only other sports does and he doesn't WANNA come out. He's never hardly breathing hard. His lungs are ready. Makes me sick. He decided one day he was going to run a half marathon neighborhood that he did. It decided around thirteen miles and he did a screen shot on struggle to ours. I Don I remember the first time I was at agent said I was going to go run down the street. I think major my neighbor's mailbox which was about eight hundred fifty S. Oh that's good so that's one topic that That our listeners may be interested in trying to Look at maybe something for their children about how to get involved as a family or House as butchered your child if they're into mountain biking and it really is it. Is it truly mountain. biking is a mountain biking course cyclocross or gravel bikes or anything like Yeah Martin bike trail riots okay. Mississippi is working towards getting it involves more involved in the misbehaves schools. Sports Association. Okay you start started developing so we'll just take a little time but you got to start someplace same way with the bowling in the bass. Fishing Lacrosse is just hockey with sticks and round balls and they tried to have hockey team at Omega. Three guys trying to try out. Uh All right. Well that's good so let's talk about. Some of our trials and errors of for the past year are still year interview review. So how do you think you're you're writing the this year Jimbo I was might target for this year was three thousand miles and I ended up right around eighteen. Eighteen hundred which was a little bit low Whether early this time of the year kind of set me back. I don't think I logged more than fifty miles from January Kan.. One through the middle of March just because the weather and travel is cold. I don't like riding in cold weather. I love cold weather but I don't like writing it when my finger and does start getting cold. I'm done. It's miserable for me now. I graduated from wrong. Did you do any writing in the mountains of Tennessee last year I did not. I didn't get a chance to take the bike up and do cades cove and enrolled around the Gatlinburg severe Valeria. Take it back. I did one ride with the local bike shop in an MBA and three in. I realized pretty quick and I'm a flat-lander were riding through some of the most treacherous busy roads roots and these guys are flying through cars or two or three feet away from us. This is in Tennessee. This was in survival but these guys knew they were done. Kept me safe pretty much. Might my mom is freaking out. You Know Semis won't buy me on a two lane road But it was. It was enjoyable. It was only about a twenty mile. Ride I had a hard time keeping up with them because they knew the terrain. I didn't know my gearing on some of the hills but on the way back we're coming into a headwind and these guys made I'm six four to eighty forty. These guys were probably six one hundred eighty back into a solidly brace. They love me. They love second behind the the big fella to VW's drafting behind the seminar. They enjoyed that part of it but I did do some riot town. We did together other. The three of us will to finish it. We did the sixty mile hungry. Would the by US Blues and by try. Uh talk about the low altitude crop dusted. And I'll put it this way ladies and gentlemen if you go on a really really good ride and you got a little nerves you know maybe a little pearl of wisdom is to take some What do you call it a modem or something before and listen? We'll just leave it at that. They had at Dat But also did a really cool ride down a mobile Early part of November was called Beers and gears should be called beer and gears because they give you one beer at the end of the road but they had Several short routes but I did the metric century so a little over sixty miles and they also had hundred mile option and it was Riding around around Mobile Alabama. Down to theater. If you're looking on a map you can look at Belen Graph Gardens and it was kinda route to and from. Well well run on. I think three or four thousand riders. If I'm not mistaken this pretty good pretty good mouth it was it was great Few rozier little nervous. Because you just I don't. You're not familiar with the area. But they put you on big wide roads and had some good shoulders to ride on one too big climbs coming back over to even from a mobile but other than that was fairly flat ride Very enjoyable Walmart. Well supported Yadda like local power company. Company had set up a huge rest stop and it was just a well run ride and this year. My goal is to do four rides outside of the Jackson Jackson Metro area and do some like Mississippi Gulf coast. GO TO MEMPHIS We've talked about. The three of us have talked about doing the bow. Bikes Obama that was birth from the Tuscaloosa tornadoes. About ten years ago he did a fundraising ride. Blue Bo Jackson as the superstar superstar running back from Auburn University and in Oakland Raiders. So if you If you go online and look at Bo Bikes Bama. There's plenty of information. I I will put a link to it on our in our show notes but I just want to do some more outside rides. Just go see different. Parts of the state. Go see different parts of the southeast and Just spend more time on the road bike. Yeah that's a great point. I mean for those of our people that are listening in the audience. I mean you know some of you may be new you and not be very comfortable signing up for a ride. But I guarantee that it's something that you'll get a lot of enjoyment out of even if you go by yourself you make new friends. We always seem to make new friends friends whenever we have rides. 'cause you end up writing with people that you don't know and then they they quickly become your friends So you know maybe for twenty twenty if you do any any kind of New Year's resolution look for a look good out of your comfort zone. Do not afford ride. It's Outta town where you have to drive now for us. Some of the ones that we have as we mentioned I mean Saturday. May the second of this year is the annual matches trace century. Ride now for those. That don't with the national traces. That's a state park. It's really considered state park. But it's a road. That goes all the way from Nashville Tennessee to Nashes Mississippi where we buy a lot of. It's very a pretty Water Turkey deer not a lot of cars except when you get through the Jackson capital area Good ride and the Jackson of the National Trade Century Ride is half of it or most of it is on Najib If you WANNA get out of town come visit us You can certainly drop us an email. We'll we'll we'll lead you on that ride. I think it the the cost is fairly economical. You registered before the end of April. It's like fifty five dollars and then another one that we do during the year in August is the bikes blues. And by US I think without question we love that one because it's in the delta. It's got a lot of good music at every stop a lot of good Rest stops One Stop. They have like a cool slushy. Remember that so they are they. They put the end slaughter largest city. They put the They pickle juice in like a slushy machine and he had like the pickles lushes and then when you stop at the money stop you have. What the Coca Cola Eliza the little glass bottles and moon pies in? You got a watermelon slim singing songs on his Steel Guitar or something. So it's it's Kinda good so these are it. All rides locally doesn't Mississippi but I'm sure that wherever you live. They've got some really good rides as well. How much this year because you did more than we did because you got involved in gravel of the first organised gravel rod have done? This year was Oxford. Last weekend with Kevin It was quite an experience experience of a lot of fun. Definitely get you a lot of heels of cold. You know you were the right things you don't get too cul. Yeah so you know one of the things that I've done this year since last time. We've done a podcast is that I got a gravel bike. I got a candidate. L. Top stone and so I've delved into in the gravel biking and Jimbo has unfortunately not had a chance to do that yet. But It can be quite dusty in the summer but it can be fun during the winter when there's not a lot of dust is just cold. That's the problem and wet so here. Are you think Mississippi. There's a lot of flat roads but it's amazing when you get to gravel roads. How early they can be an Oxford? Was My very first organized ride to and just to give you a quick update on Colin I. We were asked to sweep one of the one of the routes and so we did and and I was thinking that everybody was kind of like a little bit more into biking will come to find out. There's one guy that was on the back of the of the ride he was. He was walking up every hill so oh and he didn't know how to change. He didn't know how to change gears properly. He didn't know how to his chain back on when his chain Bob off and that was This is kind of like what this whole podcast is about is to try to teach people or encourage them from the beginning to take on rides so it was nice to kind of work with him and at the end we could tell you learned learned a lot by the time we get we get done when you think so yes and you tell him a lot about nutrition during the yeah. Yeah and so when you come out for a ride and you're going to be out there for more than an hour to you. Need to make sure that you have something more than one bottle of water. He had no food he you could tell he was bonking or crashing crashing out sharing some Jim Some of my fuel with them. I was letting him drink one of my water bottles at head carbohydrate mixture in it and we'll go over that here a few minute so So yeah gravel. BIKING has been a new thing. If you don't know anything about that you can certainly look up or Google or being gravel bikes and it'll show you the a new kind of thing that a lot of people are doing the reason why a lot of people are doing that as they don't you know quite frankly they just don't like being around cars. Cars are dangerous I have not been bitten by the gravel bog yet. But I'm sure it'll happen soon so you know we. We talked about doing some some of the longer rides the road So if you're looking to encouraging you to get involved in cycling so pick a ride or forgive the group and you've seen these marathon makeovers in couch to five K.. Programs you can develop your own program but you gotTa Kinda Kinda you gotTa get on your bike you have to. You have to ride in find a baseline of figure out what distances. You'd like to try for Ad Brad. Start for maybe twenty five mile bike ride and then if you can do ten miles in one ride and they take an hour may take an hour and a half but that your base ace then you start adding every week when it comes to running in reading some of the different ones. How hidden and some of these couch to five K.? Kind of deals they. They suggest you add about ten to fifteen percent for your long run of the week while I suggest you'd do about twenty percent on a bike because you know bikes low impact. You can do a little bit more go a little further but if you can start off go from ten miles a week to twelve and then from twelve to fifteen in the fifteen to twenty then you can Kinda Start Your training program to get to that twenty five Mile Mark and make sure you know in the week before if it's twenty five miles to go ahead and get a twenty five mile bike riding or a twenty or thirty mile bike ride in so that you over train gene so you can enjoy the ride so that your your longest ride. Isn't the the the group ride what he thought the farthest you have a road during your first year writing I would say about twenty five to thirty. Let's good guess see my i. I'm I'll never forget my friend of mine. Got Me into biking. I've done it about a half a year and then we went on an eleven mile bike ride and I thought Housman to die at Mile Eleven. I literally got off my bike and fell off into the grass and leave like a light. You know with my arms out like I was dad. Bad Road kill roadkill so that was at eleven miles so you know twenty five may seem daunting to somebody but you know for it does miss that are large and in charge. I mean twenty five miles to be a little bit a little bit of Org. How well the first night I remember my first longest ride getting ready to two? It was actually the the Bison Blues is about five years ago and I'd seen the Flyer in Greenwood Mississippi I was calling on customers and I kinda did the math math backwards this was into very GM. And I knew how to month and gobbled one of my buddies and on July the third things on on a Saturday I said I'm going to twenty miles. I'm going to do it. It took me right at two hours and it was hot. It was nasty and every week I had to add five miles with the forty mile option on that particular. I was going to be my long run so it was basically a Franken. Bike is candidate with different wheels and Blah Blah Blah Blah. It was it was a truly Franken bike line nine. I had a T. shirt on. I showed up fifteen hundred riders. And I'm the only one wearing a t-shirt and I bought a pair of bike shorts in Walmart that the pat on it was a little bit thicker than having a Napkin on your seat and that forty miles took me three hours so I it was it was it was tough. But that Kinda got me hooked What was funny was? We're GONNA back from the. We're we're heading out the twenty and there were guys coming past the white doing the sixty I went. You know think that's what I don't know if I will be that great but I'm going to be in a group that is going to be far behind and so over the next five years I mean between us. We've probably logged in five years twenty thousand miles between us and a lot of just recreational writing to our buddy doing a fifteen miler twice a week and then maybe getting together and doing a thirty forty fifty miler on the weekends But if you're going to do just like a couch to five K.. You gotta get out and do some stuff three days a week now if you're in the colder climates mix where we are willing to wet Klein. It's been raining nonstop for about thirty days. Aren't to go by and you're right. I mean when I drove over here accounts House I saw you know possums and canes on the side of the road they're pairing off to about two so so we We have our unique challenges so last year got off of facebook marketplace found a little MAC trainer got for like fifty bucks. I've got to set up in my garage and I was talking to one of the The bike shop guys instead of you can do thirty minutes three times a week on a trainer. You're going to really really in good shape gathering come spring because writing a trainer is nothing like riding on the road. You're pedaling constantly play for you know twenty thirty minutes. There's no coasting there's no breaking you're just having guy going to do the long league which is a rails to trails in his very flat. And you think it's easy because it's Latte but you don't like you said there's no coasting and it's constant that no breaking so Li if you're new to this this it's didn't find the trainer go on Ebay go on a facebook marketplace type in cycling or bicycles whatever. Somebody's offload offload one. Take it to your bike. Shop asked him to show you how to figure it out. Start with ten minutes on a bye on the trainer. Work your way up. I hey trainers as much as I hate cold weather but also know that come March April. If I don't get in some miles this year it's going to be a struggle to get up to speed by awed by early June when the fun stuff in the fun ride star. Yeah I can come into that. I mean you know being a habit deerhunter if I just get off my bike hike in October. Don't get back on it until March. I pay the price dearly but if I'm riding during the wintertime even if it's in Sil- cycling I mean you know in a spin class or whereas Jimbo said on the garage with a trainer as long as you're doing something you're keeping what we call base miles. You know they they say you need to do one hundred and fifty minutes of aerobic activity a week anyway and so he just said three times a week thirty minutes. You know. That's ninety right there So you're already putting yourself giving yourself a good base for Hebrew yourself fairly healthy other than you know trying to get through Thanksgiving and Christmas and all that stuff. The incorporate some weight training with my schedule. I don't get to go to gyms very often so I try to do some push ups every day. Do some Body squats in tow raise. I was telling my guy the things dentist you The gentleman you and I were helping an Oxford awesome. You go to the gym Madonna's now and I said Yeah I can tell because you're having a stroke. You're struggling trying to get up these deals. I said I said why. Don't you just start next week. Just while you're in the shower let your conditioner sure. Do Your hair whatever just do twenty body squats in the shop online. You can find all sorts of challenges you can find. Plank challenges push up channel Urfi burpee. He's the squad's all that kind of stuff. I'll tell you folks you know doing some lower. Legwork is far as doing like body squats and that kind of thing you do twenty thirty five thirty bodies squad today and you know add in some push ups and some sit ups toe raises You'll notice the difference because as I do these and even off off the bike for a couple of weeks I can go out and ride and you notice it more on the hills. When you're going up a hill those heels aren't quite as hard as have you not done anything? If you're just dead legged from three months no activity right now. Some of you may live in areas where there's nothing but severe hills and so God bless you. We live down here where it's fairly glad so. He'll does is Kinda daunting at times. What else we want to talk about? This may be somebody's First Time listening to us so we WANNA make sure that we just remind everybody about being safe. While you're on the road will be seen while you're out on the road the right kind of year. You know the right on a nutrition went to bring with you so you I'm GonNa Start off on that Cow Tells you know what you do in prep because you'd like to ride at night more than I did. So Oh you know until till we get like savings times back my favorite time of the year kind of what kind of lights are what lights do. Use not necessarily the name brands. But where do you have your lights. You know what colors do you wear reflective. All accounts time. They'll try to little reflected stuff. Oh Man I really don't concentrate on Tom Breath close at night. Because I've got a live student can see what I'm wearing anyway but I'm about a nine hundred thousand I'm in light on the bike. Plenty also get. Led flashing Red Lights on the back of the helmet and on the post. So we've survived car rashes. See I if I'm coming up behind. You see the red lights blinking. You'RE GONNA say lights out of lives right in the daytime. You one wear something. That's kind of like fluorescent yellow high visibility green orange hunters orange that kind of bright stuff. I mean there's a lot of Nice cycling clothes out there air but again if they blend in with the trees in the forest and the street is not doing anybody to good. You WanNa make sure that you're seeing because I don't care how good how good we're how lousy I look. I want to be able to arrive home back to my fam absolutely so Jimbo launch you Talk about what. What are you kinda mix up for? When you go out on the road like the Gatorade or well I usually do one? GATORADE or I get these little packets at at Kroger. Data are a little energy drinks. They get them in the over Crystal Light Crystal Lights. It's actually a little house ran. But they've got different ones once for energy I guess like five our energies in a little pouch and you mix them with water. And that's when I say short ride and we're doing our are fifteen to twenty miles stuff during the summertime. I'll go through to twenty four ounce bottles from doing forty eight ounces over the hour so but this time of the year. I pretty pretty much do water. I drink enough coffee and water throughout the day you know wintertime. Writing for me is not seeing how fast I can go and how fast so I can get back. It's more or less. I'm trying to avoid the land. Best at Cancer Robin surviving. It minimize the pain in my hands and feet great But as we start doing longer rides I'll pack some packs. I like the different types of us take naps was Goo Goo is a little supplement packets. kind of got the consistency of between peanut butter and Maple Syrup and it's got carbohydrates got some stimulant in it low kathleen sugar just something to keep a little fuel on your belly. Take those better every forty five minutes fifty miles. Whichever comes first? Also carry a naps. Lances peanut butter crackers reason. Why use that instead of a candy bar in the summertime if you ride in any you're gonNA mail the peanut Butter Dunton Mel? If you're not real hungry eat out six to three and you've had some the share and just to kind of like I said. Just take a step back. I mean we're talking because we're Mississippi ran the deep south. We don't have a very strong winter. We don't have any snow. You guys may be sitting there in the snow north right now while we're out riding and fifty forty degree weather trying to avoid the rain but the difference it is when it comes to being summertime. We're going to be ninety eight hundred degrees down here. We're going to be under a lot of duress with heat exhaustion and excessive excessive sweating for me. I'm accessible sweater to the point where I've had medical issues off ended really dial in nutrition and hydration and again Dan we. Don't you know we're not saying that. These are the best things in the world but there are companies. You can look at like scratch K. R.. ATC as they made a thank. God hyper hydration. I drink one of those before really really long hot ride out with my sodium intake the near stuff by hammer nutrition called he'd high high energy endurance Drink in that has like thirty something grams of carbohydrates in in a scoop with you can mix mix with your water. I was giving it to the dentist guy because he was balking so bad And then I make a little thing that that works for me. Is I take dates. You can go to Sam's or Costco and get a big thing dates and put them in a food processor. Chop them up really good at it takes oatmeal chopping. You'd make it into like an hour our at some almond butter peanut butter. Protein powder Hershey's cocoa and then I add just a little bit of a Vase Syrup and then I mix it all up into. This really ICKY gooey mess. PUT IT in a pan freeze it. Then I do a pizza cutter through and make little squares and I have one of those every hour when I'm out for long rise and that seems used to be very good because dates are high potassium which is an electrolyte. You can lose when you're sweating a lot. And it's slow absorbing carbohydrate which is really a free energy so that's just me of you know there's all things that you can find a lot of his down here like I said you heard us talk about pickle slush. She's a lot of us. Liked a drink pickle juice use with Because it's high in sodium and vinegar whatever and it helps start mind thing that we're doing something good or body it helps us and we we always try to carry mustard packets for people who hydrating cramp you may be in an area where you never cramp but if you do so from grams carry mustard packet. It'll help with your cramps if you take down about three or four packets of yellow buster. Would he put near bottles pretty much. Catering powder yeah I mean. I wish I could do that but I have to have a little bit more stronger stuff because of how much sweat when this time of year I do run. Just carry water. Wow good for you if I if it's a longer rod. I'll do on water one gatorade during the summer. It's all gatorade. Sometimes a beetlejuice in a feel kind of jealous of I will be riding with somebody who in like a small guy and I'll look at their their bike and they've got one bottle of water and that's it and we're doing fifty miles away. How does he do that? You know it is what it is. I'm my body is big as I am. I have dialed in figuring out. I need about one bottle. Every ten to fifteen miles. You know we're on the Adra so traded break even when we even when we wrote that Oxford grab a ride. It was what forty degrees when I set my Jack on the like I have been coming out. I mean I was completely so of wet and speaking of writing in the wintertime and and soaking sweat you know talking about what you wear like when I ride on insists called. I wear a I've got a thin water. Wyking t-shirt that were under where where my jersey. And then I got a fleece tied win resistant jacket. So that I don't get into the self basting modem arrive cows not as heavy sweaters. Calvin chemicals like sprinkler sometime mind but footprints with issues. But you know what's what's what's kind of your normal were Toboggan have or what are you wearing reface ski-masks type thing where the helmet as you're out robbing banks. You can just get away on your bike right exactly now. Aw the compression stuff you know have a good base layer on get the sweat away from you. Make sure you get a layer. This went through F- like moniker body against I've got about four different layers on them but they're all in the main thing I have to switch out depending on the temperature is the gloves if it's really called ride to me really cold. Oldest forty and below got some one hundred percent name brand from bicycle. Revolution of the gloves called percents the number again okay. They're really good But if it's fifty degrees and those my insulin so much that I had to take off so those type of rods I just got some mechanic's liens from lowes. Were just funding. That Blair even thought about that. A little bit of areas they're just barely breathable and they're they're great into those Kouros. The I use my regular cycling gloves and a kind of you know. Keep this in mind the ride when it's cold weather maybe forty degrees. But if you're riding fifty miles an hour you're going being at thirty mile. An hour wind chill right at BASF road. We don't get compensated for any of this but one of our arriving buddies TERMI onto a holdover mitten with expose. Thanks so you've got the glove you got the half fingers and then you can put them in the top of it and those will keep your hands license. Seen if they get if they do get hot until the mid part by yeah. Those are like hunting fishing fishing. gloves you. Can that way if you WANNA cast in real with your your fishing or you want to pull the trigger with your gun hunting you can simply pull the finger park back back. Those are really cool gloves. I wish I had a bear. Oh actually do have appeared to camouflage so we want to see your hand. You're right yeah exactly. My my problem is is not with my fingers. I mean my hands. They start out really cold but then eventually because I start heating up my fingers do get get warmed up. My problem is that it must be a long way down to my feet because I cannot stand to have cold cold feet. I mean to the point where like we've got off that ride in Oxford I was. I was limping because I could not feel the bottom of my feet. There was the thing that does help which I did do. But because we were out exposed for so long it did help the first hour our to really did help after going riding in the in the wintertime. I decided what I started doing some research. What can I do to help my feet feel better? They they got this stuff called embrocations that you rub on your feet. I have yet to get that we talked about that in one of our last podcast in that and I've yet to find some just going to be you as honest as I can't wait but I still thinking about going to Amazon and order himself something that you put on your your hands or your feet and it's supposed to can like warning warming in jail. Whatever but since? I haven't done that the other thing that I did. That does seem to work. Is You take your dry weaking socks. You put those fair on then you take like a grocery free bag a kroger bag or publix bag or whatever plastic bag that you get your groceries and you rack your feet in those then. You put a a pair of wool socks on top of that so you got three layers. You got a wicky of a plastic bag in a wolf stalking the prentice. Is the plastic bags supposed to help with a cold with the cold air. That comes up from the bomber shoes now for the first hour. My feet are actually nice intensity but then if you say longer than an hour is just like you never had anything anything on it all so new listeners out there have a cycling hat on either some kind of cool insert that we can swap in and out of her. She's that will keep. Art are tender feet being whiny little hocine battery-operated box that I just didn't want to spend the money for that. I didn't want to get shocked when I'm running. Yeah I get cold easily so I would never get the gators okay for those of you. Who are getting getting ready or urine climates? Or you're GONNA get on your trainer start doing some stuff Make sure you go get checked out. Just go bike shop. Drop your bike off. Say Hey hey you need a need a tune up you may need a full you know get everything stripped down and in relived up for for the year or you just may need just You know some adjustments making sure your brakes her or set. Your wheels are in good working order. Maybe go ahead and swap out your inner tubes. So you've got French inner tubes because just it's like in cars. The cold weather will affect your tires. tentatives they'll swallow contract dry rot and do different things on the side. Not The reason why we talked about. I'm going to local bike. Shop is yes you probably can find. I mean all three of US could sit here and agree that we can find things probably a little cheaper on Amazon but when we don't support our local bike shops that will eventually be a casualty of war and they will have to close their business. And then when you need to have your bike worked on who you'RE GONNA take it to you know so so police leave wherever you live. Support your local bike shop. There's plenty of bike shops Out there find the one that works for you where we live. There's three major bike shops within driving distance. We particularly like a one. Because it's close so close close. I mean we can literally ride our bike to it. They shall and they sell beer. Yeah but He has the support your local tax. So I'm sorry to Jimbo just I mean you know you. You go to the mechanic shop you go to your local mechanic to get your cars work done or you on a bicycle and you have a flat tire. You're doing ten fifty miles. An hour is very very very dangerous. You know if you're in your vehicle in your car breaks down you're still in your vehicle wooden if you're on a bike and you have some sort of failure. The potential of you may upright is about fifty fifty. So it's better clanking. Fun is the Bali nece. Yes the sudden stop at the mob so getting things check Jack Breaks you wheels. You know Those are the main things. Make sure that your gears are in good working order eat. Don't WanNa have a gear break in. You're stuck doc in the heaviest gear for twenty miles to get home. You may be calling your significant other or having your buddies comeback. Pick you up because you can't pedal anymore but just like you would your vehicles you know regular maintenance some of the stuff you can do yourself but I really have no problem In it's it's not that expensive to go to your bike shop and let them check everything out. You know swap out whatever you need to be safe and that way you get confidence when you're at correct. Yeah we're helmet or you Hammett and you show them obey hull of us. I have done it. I can't speak for the other two. I've I've had the crash interior. The APP AH we have wrecked and cracked their hands. We know somebody who has wrecked and cracked down. Or if you've never seen a crackdown just saying that would be your skull and you could be a a neurological ward at the hospital. Because you got dame bridge we used to not wear one when we were kids thinking back today but now I can't imagine in Riding a bike without a helmet right always wear a helmet on goofy. It looks correct. My daughter back in college today. Dad wanted to bike hers got stolen last last semester. And I said here's your helmet. And she's Daddy. I don't need to how NASA you don't need a back your college. Yeah she said that Kevin Avenues my daughter and I said maybe you're right on. Campus people are texting and not paying attention. And don't risk. It's not worth two miles an hour. You can tip over your head slammed into the concrete. Yeah and two miles or you follow over on the road and you hit the curb not able to to protect yourself always always wear them linke lights where you Blakey's Some sort of light. You know just safe safe safe safe safe safe. It don't ride. We run into this everywhere your we're seeing more. And more of cyclists bean hit because more people are taking up the activity. I won't call it a sport because really not a sporting activity for for most. We don't get paid to do this. So it's activity be smart. Don't decide you're GONNA go ride on major thoroughfares between four Ford six o'clock in the afternoon or between seven thirty and nine in the morning during Roshan are driving. Your people are GonNa get mad year. They're going to put you in harm's there's way they're gonNA they're gonNa buzz you purpose going to try to send messages and it's just not worth it find find safe places to ride a ride with groups Now it's dark makes you you lights in the summertime. Same applies people trying to get Hong. Get to the kids feed the dogs. Do Whatever whatever Dorado major thoroughfares. Yeah I mean go to your you can call your local bike shop. They will always have a list of local bike rides. I mean we ourselves have several facebook groups at announced where somebody's writing with. Whom and so you don't have to ride by yourself if you don't need to Jimbo and I- Kyle we we do? Oh you know during daylight savings time hours. We try to help with the encouragement ride where we'd lead beginners so these people have a safe environment where they feel they can learn earn. They can they don't have to get dropped or whatever so there's always going to be somebody out there in a writing community that ride with you by yourself. That's that's one thing Make sure you get a road. Id Bracelets identify who you are unless somebody on where you're at all times but mostly try to ride with other people so it's always thank. Thank safety I wear bright ugly clothing. Lashing lights you want. Everybody in a car aren't to see you out on the road. If you'RE GONNA be out with other vehicles he so you know gatorade good waters good. Be Sure to be drinking. Don't wait till the day of your ride. Just have a glass of water. Try to drink your water. Every day to keep stay hydrated good nutrition proper good carb carb loading prior to your ride is good. I'm not saying you gotTa go to the Pizza Buffet before your eyes. Because I don't WanNa oh you puke everywhere but you know maybe a bowl of oatmeal. I know you always have you always have A. US have a Bagel bagel peanut butter guy. They don't peanut butter about an hour for the. What do you usually Granola bar at the house? Oh Grandma Yeah Saturdays I just have this. One is my treat in about two hours who we have seven o'clock right. I'm get up at five o'clock in the morning have a couple of cups of coffee to pop tarts about target. You know it was just as fun stuff. I don't know what else we got. Thought about anything directly. So we're going to try to do you know we're GONNA change the format up a little federal do some highlights on local rides in the southeast On our website. I'm going to try to get a calendar up. And if anybody he has a ride that they would like promoted get in touch with US via email and we'll try to do an interview with you or send us information and we'll talk about it but there are Tonderai is in the southeast. We're based in Mississippi and they've got some really awesome stuff in Louisiana Arkansas Alabama Tennessee. You know I'm looking at some stuff in North Florida over into Georgia area. There's a pretty long rails to trails setup there about seventy seventy five eighty mile or I think and at some point this summer I'm GonNa go that's That's that's called bucket list but I have a kind of a two you. Twenty Two thousand twenty checkoff list and one of my deals is is to do five moderately long ride sixty miles or you better outside of Mississippi. Yeah there's a group that sometimes goes and they do what they call. The Katy trail in Missouri is like two hundred fifty miles. Miles of rails to trails they take Vanden railroad tracks tournament a path and they take a couple of nights. Stay at a hotel here hotel there across else Missouri in the Katy trail goes across the state Missouri. And they loved it. I'd like to do that. That's I'm above list telling the boys here before we started that I had signed up for the dirty dirty. Kansas underdog. Grab Riding Emporia Kansas. If they choose me out lottery and I'll be training one hundred riding Kansas's so that's one of my bucket list listings. I'm totally on board with Jimbo by Trying to be adventurous and finding something outside of the State Boat Bikes Bama that is in April April April liberal. You know it's a junior year the Tuscaloosa Montgomery area Actually Dogar Okay Auburn Auburn Alabama. You know come on down Might get a pitcher Bo Jackson who knows Kyle and you you're GONNA be working with your son getting thing on your your agenda. The main thing this year to double Obama Miles from the last two years and hit a thousand miles the last two years mainly because of new baby in the house. I'll have been to at least two thousand this year. The great thing about you is you're doing with your son and you're making memories with your we at John. You know outrun may a did it something as we talk about real quick. DOC is set some goals on Shraga and some other of the different. I call tracking websites. They've got a challenge. It's the two it's the two thousand thousand twenty two thousand twenty miles in two thousand twenty. Probably do that and for some you I didn't get to do it in miles but my birthday. They was in December and I did do a fifty four K.. By pride to honor my birthday we had one of our our elder statesman. c'mon on his birthday. He did a seventy five mile background. You turn seventy five year old seventy five miles that day. So you know two things one. Congratulations nations in two. I hope to God I can do seventy five miles seventy five years old. Maybe I can get a time machine and go back to eighteenth birthday excellent finish up with the encouraging word of the day so this was a a a statement by friend of mine name Limbs L. Johnson and his. It's a AH. My weekday challenge was kindness. He says kindness is the language that can be heard without ears and seen without is and so. I'm going to read that again. Kindness is the language that can be heard without ears and see without eyes so you know always make it a point to be nice to other people. That's the way God intended us to be anyway. We only have one. ESPN in enemy is Is Not anybody on the face of this. Earth is Satan himself only we have. All of us should be kind each other especially if you are a little bit more advanced on a bike than somebody else that sometimes John will bring them up into the sport. Let them don't don't push them away and And hopefully you'll find the same kind of person that gives you a pearl of wisdom or a tip or a hand up when you buy as well but just trying to make a challenge of twenty twenty to get two thousand twenty miles then if you can't but also be kind to your neighbors. Your friends people checking out at at the grocery store. Where the person next to you while you're pumping gas or sitting in the movie theater okay? That's all I can guys. We'll we'll circle back in a week or two and call center here. Thanks for joining. Sky turned thanks for joining it. Remember to subscribe to the encouragement ride. PODCAST FOR MORE UPDATES dates be sure to follow us on twitter at encourage writing and on facebook at the encouragement. Feel free to send us a message to ask questions or just say. Hey Hi until next time remember. Wear your helmet and always use your Blakey's so long for now you gotta fuel dates uh-huh juice.
Ep. 101 | Nick Swardson
"Welcome to curious with Josh Peck. Start the shell boom. That's it welcome back to the curious. Podcast my name is Josh Peck. And I'm your host and your name is listener and that's what you do you say all right. So listen were deepen this quarantine for five weeks. At least I'm fucking running. I guess whatever that's my problem not yours. We're GONNA keep this curious podcast turning. I don't give a fuck. I'll interview my son who's fifteen months and can say data and also Josh which I find weird. My son knows my my parental name. And also my given my first name which it's just it's really weird yet. Cute when a fifteen month old says Josh. Jewish you can't really say he kind of goes to my mom or my mom. Those Weird Freudian set my wife. My wife will say Who's Josh and look at me pointing go? I mean it's not like that is. He's not like Oliver in the Broadway. Show Oliver where he's like. Memebrs small place. It's not Jewish. But it's it's got a little it's got a little you know tilt to it. It's really cute My my son and I've become very close over this quarantine absurdly close lot. Bonding Lada bonding. I love but you know when this thing is over. I think I'm due for a bit of meantime. I you know I definitely up until this moment even if I had to leave for like a twenty four hour span I would feel awful. The idea of like missing the moment like kids. They do change rather quickly especially at this age. But you know I think at this point now if I had to leave for twenty four to seventy two hours. I'd say well you know this is good. You know we need a little. Yeah it'll You know the heart will grow fonder son so be nice to see a mother. No I'M NOT. I'm not kidding. I you know definitely I would look forward to twenty four to forty eight hour Bidding meantime getting to do what I want with the world that was operating singly. Which I assume will be you know heading into sooner than later and I think everyone would feel that way. My wife would feel that way. She probably would need forty eight hours. She might need seven but you know sure. She wouldn't mind a massage and a pedicure not saying that she needs one. I'm just saying that L. Listen these are the nice things that people do for themselves. You know low pampering a little them time right so I think it's interesting. I wonder what businesses will be inundated from the moment the quarantine is lifted. Right like every dues get their haircut. Every girl is going to get their hair done manicure petty. I duNNo. I don't mean I'm that's just walking into trouble right. Did I fuck up. 'cause I'm generalizing. All women color color or style their hair and not all women wearing nail Polish. So I don't really. This is my. I'm bad person because I said that. Come on come on right. Don't we have bigger fish to fry here than me than Josh Peck? You Know GonNa come after me. Wow I'm creating. I'm becoming so utterly defensive and yet no one has you know. This is a complete conversation that goes on my head while I'm really getting vulnerable with you guys. Because that's that's exactly what I would think after. I said something like that. I'd be like really. This is what brings me down God. And then you know of fairly innocuous comment that ten years ago. Would you know not offend anyone in now? It's you know this is what does it this is. What brings me down in leads me to be you know become a drug addict who you know. Has his final meal at a at a you know a low level white castle in a bus terminal. Really this is. What does it that comment you know the other day? I got angry last week. I got angry at grocery store personnel grain. And I'm GonNA qualify because he got in this world you got. I don't act on this frustration but I feel it. I realize that people like grocery store. Employees are heroes not even a quarantine day to day. They gotta deal with astles like me. I think these people deserve the world. You know what I'm saying so of course I don't act on it but I have thought am. I not allowed my thoughts am I not allowed those he other day. I ordered some food for pickup for using the post meets APP. Great wonderful APP very happy to order some food. That was actually picking up for a friend who is currently quarantined and cannot leave the House. GonNa leave it on his mailbox. 'cause AGAIN LISTEN. Macaulay myself a hero. You you are all free to if you so choose foods from a place near my house. Place in never been. Police looks good. You know the yelp reviews through the roof. You know not bad at all but I you know I find it weird displaces within like less than a mile house. I've never seen it and the reviews are really good so I make the order. They tell me about fifteen minutes about fifteen minutes later. I get a a nice texts from post me. Take your order's ready come on in. Come pick up your nourishment. I get you know. Stuck another fifteen minutes goes by so I've now added a nice pad inbetween when I got that text and when I came to pick up the food I mean this food had to have been sitting there for fifteen twenty maybe twenty five minutes at least so I go in and this is one of these These ghosts kitchens. It's a remote kitchen this new invention. It's fucking brilliant to be quite honest some piss that I didn't think of it but basically the idea is is like there are restaurants that do a fair amount of takeout and delivery. That perhaps can't how's it within their own sort of kitchen that the infrastructure in place for that would require them to have more space more people working there. It's not really a reality and there are certain restaurants or certain takeout joints. They don't really want to What's the word hang up a shingle set? The word pushing. They don't WanNa have brick and mortar store. They don't want to invest in that we all know that that's like a pretty you know That that any sort of store from business in general is taking a big risk because people sit at home mostly so instead it's like It's like a commercial kitchen for forty different places so I don't know what it looks I can there. I imagine it's like walking into an eye KIA and they're just like fifteen commercial. Kitchens fired up ready to go housing every different restaurant. And then there's one main area where people going to pick up their food so this way you don't have to have a storefront you don't have to invest and all that bullshit you just got your kitchen. You get your delivery you get your pickups you're good you gotta have a thriving business and. I support this. I think it's fucking brilliant but it's no it's new technology that I am not privy to so Excuse me when I go to this place right now. I go to this place. It looks like a fucking cafe in you. Know some quaint European town. Okay you got you know. Four or five people on bikes to three people on mopeds. You've got a lot of foot traffic. I mean it looked provincial is that I don't think provincials right word but it looked utterly Your your European Eurasian that's europe-asia it looked. It looked European. It just looked utterly like it looked like you were walking up to a movie with like this cast of characters. Twenty five thirty people. Now I assume these are all people that who you know. Many of whom who work at a GRUB hub and post me Editora- dash right so these people are professional of you know food delivery folk so they all knew the process. I unfortunately did not again. This is a technology that was created like two years ago. These kitchens this did not exist so I go and I go up into the counter and I say hi. I'm here to pick up my food. They go did you get Texas and of course a tax from post meets no problem. Allow me to show you. They go from us. I say from you. I don't even know you. We're not friends we've never met. Why would I get texts? He goes get out. I go what? He's like social distancing too. Many people are in here. Go wait outside. I said hold the phone task. You need to. Hey what is happening? What I don't understand I don't you didn't follow the rules. Get outside to go outside. Listen I'M NOT GONNA fight. Social distancing is important six feet six weeks but could he have not just more nicely. Made me understand that I had to like sign up for two newsletters and give a pint of blood to pick up this food. They go listen. There's a sign on the wall. You'RE GONNA have to take a picture of a Qr code sign up on. Our interface agreed text messages and news alerts which I think is just. I feel like if I if I need to agree to that to pick up my food. I'm never coming here again. Just as a small I just want to if I need to get spam mail from you. I don't want to come here but this guy kicking me out nice now. Of course me. I did not lash out because listen. We're in a crisis. I can understand this but perhaps he could have said it in a more gentle thoughtful nice full way. That perhaps wouldn't have utterly her my feeling. Oh man was I like and it was funny because I did leave immediately. And I totally respected the whole social distancing of it. That's fine basically once you like. Give them your social security number and all of your banking information. They then give you a separate tax from their kitchen that says. Hey the food's ready come to the window and they like pull it from the back whatever but it was interesting because the guy was sort of berating me and I came in. You don't have to be rude. Just explained to me what's going on. And he like we had kind of a moment of eye contact him looking at me like I'm going to write the story and this guy might have thought. Hey Josh Drake and Josh Fuck Yourself. No special treatment you know. And that's fine but what I think he said what are is said was. I'm sorry man. This is fucking weird. Time were were completely inundated with people because this is just an insane time and they all want to pick up food and no one's following the rules and we're trying to be safe here and this is a fucking pandemic can do like I. I didn't mean the last shot at you like that. It's just like can you just follow the rules to make my life easier and not be a fucking idiot. 'cause it's very simple. Just follow this paper. That's on the window and of course my I said I know I'm I'm a fucking idiot and I just. Can you be nicer when explained to me exactly why? I'm an idiot. Would you mind just because I'm fragile and I'm since I never met my dad onto these show? Knicks words Nikki sorts and look Knicks words into one of the best comedians actors writers. I think alive from movies like Grandma's boy bucky Larson pretty much. Every Adam Sandler movie ever made and much much more. Nick is just one of the most talented funny people I know and the guy is meant. She's a sweetheart he's good as gold and I felt so lucky to have him on the pod and this is easily one of my fav- so I can't wait to share it with you. Enjoy Nixon do you do you. What's up re-live now? Yeah we're dumb live right. I figured just jump right in Gopher man so right your house. Yes where my little condo here? I didn't WanNa House because I just I can barely maintain anything so I just feel like I don't know I didn't WanNA houses. I would just be afraid of any noise and if I fix anything I don't know how to do anything I can't fix any I don't. I'm really worthless I am too. I'd be the worst person on. It could desolate island. I have no skills and I have a lot of anxiety. Yeah same here. If I was talking to island that'd be the only person trying to call Newburgh and everyone's like this is not helping. I'm like all right lift. Yeah listen we're all here? Uberpool can all get in one car exposing jump scooter somewhere but we are also at your house because you decided not to come to the podcast studio. I would have done it but I for those listeners. I'm afraid of elevators. It's my number one fear. Tell me about an Josh Josh Studios on the fifty eighth floor now. It was on the fourteenth floor and I just I just can't fit fourteenth log and what how long the elevator fear been going your whole life. It's been going my whole life. It would go in and out of of waves of it and then I just I couldn't do it in certain places it's tricky because Las Vegas especially and New York are tricky because the buildings are so high and you have to have security access to to get certain Just even get in the stairwell especially vegas so it's been brutal but I remember one time. I was filming a movie grownups two in Boston. And we were staying at the Ritz Carlton and I was like. I'll stay another hotel and sandler was like now. I mean we all going to be together. It's better for all together and I'm like all right so they didn't have stair access. No how does it allowed? Isn't that a fire weird trust me? I'm very fluent in this. Yes tell me and really high places especially with a high security they just don't have casual stair access. You need a card. You need there so many hoops to jump through right. And so I was in the elevator with my buddy Jay and we were going down the elevator and it stopped and I immediately lost my breath. That's my biggest. Fear is at stopping so I lost my breath and my buddy Jay was like dude chill out and I immediately grabbed the doors and started to rip them open and it was super human. I stand by that. When you're in that state of panic you always hear that people can like throw cars off people if they're trapped or something. I ripped the doors open and starts screaming at my friend. Jay and I'm like job and he's like what no chill out. I'm like I'd rip them open and off and it was inbetween floors. It's so dangerous. I don't recommend doing that. You're really not supposed to do that. And he was like. Oh my God so. We jumped dove into the lobby. And then I jumped out after him and he was like. Oh my God dude. I was just shaking shaking. And what was the landing Mike Though? Did you roll out of it? Was it splattered heated like a pretty deft AUTOMATA role. Yeah solid yeah. He took out. He took a couple people now. yeah but it was you know and then the elevator shut down. It was a mess. Did you make the elevator worse? Open right yeah I. I'm not proud of I mean I am. I got out but but my point is that the degree of how freaked out. I am about elevators. Did he come out of nowhere or just your whole life it. Just when I was a kid I was really claustrophobic. And older brother. And he would lock me in things and tackle me and smother me and stuff and like any brother. Good brothers show. Yeah Kinda stemmed from that and then I just I just had a horrible and then they would keep snowballing from stories out here and the worst one. I don't know if you heard about this. This guy was on Oprah and he was trapped in an elevator for three days. Cheese says in New York City. Anybody listen can youtube at and they have a camera inside the elevator and he was there for three days. He left work on a Friday and he had forgotten his phone and his office so he took the elevator backup and it got stuck and everybody had left for the weekend and he was there and there was a camera on him and they do a time lapse and they interviewed him he had his bag with him and he had a. Gatorade a snickers. Something like that so he was trying to sustain. Yeah but he didn't Abbas phone because he left his phone and he was like I know idea what time it was what day it was just completely lost it you know. He's obviously fine now but I mean I can't even fathom that because that's what's Freaky to me is you don't really know how long you're in there for the most part you'll be fine but one day they'll need that elevator again. Yeah have you. Have you tried going into elevator with a gatorade and a snickers and maybe that will nullify your fears No I have not arosh but I'll try that. China have a convenience store with me. Try King died. What if what if you had okay? Let's what have you done? Elevator with like a satellite phone in Epi pen and like a twelve pack of roles so worst case scenario. You know you're GONNA be able to talk to someone right. And you'll have some sustenance for like twelve roles like Kaiser Rolls. That's like three thousand planning on a really long time in there so just brace yourself for nintendo switch. I mean that that's better right. That would be funny if I just. Every time I rode an elevator like Thanksgiving dinner with me to calm me down. Just people like what are you doing? I'm like just in case we stop and we're stuck for a month in holidays. We're ready eighty. I've done every scenario. I mean I used to have Zanex my wallet just in case that help definitely because it standard to a fear of flying to where I would stop planes. I've stopped plans on tarmacs where I would totally panic and I'm like now I gotTa taxi back and they're like are you joking and I'm like no I. I only did a handful of times but it was just. It was awful reunion first class when you asked to be brought back to the terminal because they think if you're an economy they don't turn the plane around the they tell you to shut the fuck they just sucker punch or somebody chokes. You're now I was The one time I did it was I was on a commuter flight Which is a really small planes. Yeah I was going to a Gig from Minnesota Michigan so it's just popping over and I was sitting in a window seat and I was doing okay and the next week so Mike All Right. I'm good and then it was a scene out of a movie and the plane was full except for the seat next to me. And they're like oh we got one more and this large older man probably sixty came down the aisle and I was like Oh now and he sat next to me and I just kind of moved into the window and I started hyperventilating and he was really nice guy and we just we were talking and I tried to talk through it but it just physically It was just. I couldn't I just couldn't breathe and I had to stop yeah. Eight people were mad and it was just and then my favorite was. My friend was on the flight with me. Who was opening for me at the show. And he's like don't go so I'll go with you. What yeah. What do you think is going to go to the show? I mean dude. I don't have my only thing even close to that is when my wife and I were gifted tickets back from Mexico. Because I've got this nice trip at the end of this job that I did and they said well unfortunately we only have one first class ticket in one economy ticket and when you're at the beginning of a relationship Sophie's choice style. It's like Fuck Ryo right now the chivalrous thing as a man. Yau The lady first class yeah but I'm sober man. My wife is not. My wife chose to take some xanax on the plane. So I said because you're going to now take medicinal supplement to make you more comfortable right. I of course deserve the first class seat it. I have not heard the end of it nick for six years. Wait what do you need so you took first class. Yeah yeah I mean she xanax? What why did she? She was not happy about that. She just brings it up in the best at the best time and but I remind her that she was you know doped up on Benson. Yeah that's a logical trade on. I mean even I could do that. Xanax is a game changer. For a situation like that Because just having xanax on me I wouldn't even need to take it just knowing I had it. It is really calming it such a devious struck. It's very devious. And I say this that in any thing pharmaceutically. It has a medical purpose for it. Yes so it's not a casual social driving. I obviously tons of people on my friends. I've done it but if it's in that moment moments like that it's it's perfect you know. Yeah it's an escape. Yeah well it just it. Just 'cause you're if you have a really paralyzing fear which I did it was. It was great So we're here recording this podcast which I'm so grateful for because you're one of my favorite people. Thanks Buddy likewise and I'm almost at one hundred ten podcasts. Oh well into this had to be in there and we had a couple couple planned it weren't able to see it through and then and comic crazy. I think the turning point was I facetime do you with John? Stamos Roy and I think it solidified my level of celebrity to you that I hang out with John and you said I gotta give this kid at try. I gotTA DO PODCASTS. He's bigger deal than I thought. First of all that's a hundred percent true a- No not at all. I knew your friends was famous. I if I had to deal with everybody that was friends with Stamos Chew. I would be everywhere no sometimes. It just doesn't match up but I of course I would've I would've done regardless I You're awesome and we went through a time period called the NBA Entertainment League which was A Rag tag group of actors directors and writers that played it was a sub thing of the NBA. And we would do these charity games and remember. It's still one of my favorite parts of my life which It was just so bizarre. It's just all of us together. Traveling we perform or do not show but we would do games at Arenas Kansas send the arena. Kansas City Dallas Phoenix and these crowds would come out and you know some people are really good and some people were not just one of the nuts. I was one of the nights also. No you were good. I was impressed with your level of fearlessness and fervor. Because you're not a tall guy and there were some athletically adept people there and you're like no fuck. Outta here. I'm going to throw some elbows and let you know I mean business. I mean I can't you kind of had to 'cause it was just survival. I mean I am decent basketball but I would definitely not put up with lower tier. I remember it was Yumi. And who else was kind of Like Brody Jenner decent. But it was. It was just funny because I mean obviously doing stand up. I'm used to just being thrown out in front of a crowd and fighter flight. You know but you know when guys would take it really seriously I I would definitely give the ball out. I wasn't a fan of getting the rock at a really crucial time at any point in the game and then the partying and I remember. One time you're there. It was Phoenix and they had a party tonight before. And I wasn't going to drink so I was like. I want to be focused for the game and of course easily swayed and one of the guys from the NBA. I won't say his name Shane. Who showed no no from the actual? Nba A player Excel. A lot of the players would calmer they coach or they would hang out and he was like. Hey are you doing wonder shot and I'm like no I don't drink for the Games. And he goes what we drink for the game the night before and I'm like what's really and he was like. Oh Yeah so. I started to kill shots next scene. I'm completely wasted. Wake up the next state vomiting so hung over. We go to the game. I'm green disgusting so hung over and I didn't WanNa play at all and they kept going like you're in. I'm like now and I just kept. Brody was the same way and we were so badly hung over. We didn't I think we played like one minute. Check in and then dribble the ball almost diarrhea amendment check out and then I saw the player. And I'm like dude and he goes playing. I'm like I'm so hung over. I'm like why you guys really drink the night before. And he was and he goes no. I was joking like the night before. Because he wasn't playing a baron Davis to joke baron. And Yeah so I was like Do those in coal. But that's my biggest fear was realized playing in the NBA League. Because we had we had some real ballers. Mr Donald Phase on big Bill Bellamy. Yeah and the thing that I had such a massive resentment against auto phase on for years because of the NBA League. 'cause outside of the game is a sweetheart just loved on but within the confines the game he. I wanted to say Donald Urine scrubs. And I'm Josh from Drake and Josh. This means zero point zero. This is less than an intramural basketball game at your local. Ymca and you give a fuck. Yeah and he was pissed. Yeah people got really serious and people would go outside of the League and they would hire coaches and they would have practices. Yeah so I mean people took it really really seriously and I. I just couldn't. I mean I would definitely try my best. I wasn't like phoning it in but it was I remember one time. This was one of my favorite things in my life and I was doing one of the Games. And Terrell Owens played in the League football players Star Wide Receiver. And we're we were playing the game and I had zero points and it was towards the end of the game and there was a fast break. Stole the ball and Sprint on the court with him and we're wide open and zero points in the crowd knew it and they were kind of cheering and you could tell Terrell really wanted a dunk it or do something really sweet but he knew once again I zero points and I was a crowd favourite so as a comedian so he dishes the ball to me wide open layup and just an old crowded It was just a whole stadium of people just pure disappointment and Terrell just looking at me and I was like Iran. Thanks for the dish doing it. A point for that Third Point for just accepting the pass that hurt. Yeah it was. It was really brutal. Oh guys we've got another ad for you and this one's GonNa be special. I know it curious brought to you by the new podcast go and see hosted by mom in Malcolm Guide. Well well we're not. We don't actually know each other but I wish we did. 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I slowly felt him becoming less interested in me as a client when he saw how much I sucked basketball and I was like I for my career. I gotTA and so it's funny but it's just so I don't know about you but you seem rather athletic like for me. I'm such a pure artists like I'm good at the razzle dazzle right. I'm I'm just not physical in any way I was fat growing up. I didn't do a push up till I was nineteen. I don't got it and so to fail at that level in front of those people in what seemingly should be like. Everyone has a baseline of athleticism. Right and I don't was I would. It would take me eighteen hours to recover after the Sunday games physically or mental mental. Like I call my mom. She'd come to the Games and then she'd have to talk me out of it like the in-and-out truck outside right like I literally felt poorly about myself for a good day and a half after. Yeah I mean but that's the thing that's also good and bad about as it does push you but I mean I you know I don't play basketball regular I have on and off but it's tricky when you don't have a really adept skill set at something like these guys have played nonstop their whole lives. You know so. It is tricky in that situation. You know it's not like softball where people are just drunk. And you know whatever basketball. It's definitely you have to have an I. I don't really have and I couldn't run point. I couldn't I could shoot decent but I mean definitely didn't have a full skill set. It was also one of the dumbest games to get good at because the life span of it is not long right and it's so awful on your body like every guy. I know the police basketball after thirty five somewhat. Competitively I go. Do you hate your. Acl's like let me know when you blow out your knee. 'cause I bet you. It's within the next six months. Yeah and I'm just like what the fuck you doing like. I'm a go play. Tennis have some respect for yourself right. Don't be screaming at people at the Y. It's ridiculous yeah juggle or something to waste. Yeah yeah some people do as a therapy session because you can tell people are working through some shit. Because that's one thing I stop playing. Pick up games. There was always fighting. There is always you know just trying to prove themselves and it feels like you know these these players that we were playing with and which is fine but I mean regular pickup games. Were way more intense man where it was really like there were fights and stuff like that and You know it just got to be too much. I just always amazes me at the level of like. I'm so lucky because I don't have that EGO. And like my my. My father in law was a quarterback in the NFL. Oh Wow and he played for the jets for ten years and it's incredible for me to see the difference between real athletes real guys who had it and their lack of ego when doing anything athletic after that because they made it to the big show. Yeah they have nothing to prove or like the guy who played division three ball at his fucking state college and now is at the local park on a Saturday playing fat flag football and wants you to understand his greatness. Yeah completely but I also feel bad. I mean you know when you see athletes that are so good. I mean growing up in that world is just gotta be so brutal. Yeah because the talent pool I mean I remember I would meet Minor League baseball players. That were really good. And they couldn't get to that next level but they were amazing phenomenal athletes and you know to to make it to that level to that next level is one billion to do that to be a successful pro athlete and you know you always carry that because you allow these guys were studs when they were little kids. Yeah especially Olympic athletes. That were you know. They started figure skating when they were like two. And you know that's all that's all they know. Is that competitive spirit so I was. I always feel a little bad for guys like that and women and retired athletes. Where you lose that part of your life you lose a huge part of the soul of what you do. That's what you love and physically had that taken away when you get injured and stuff like that I just. It's gotta be so brutal and people like slam on athletes that retired and they come back. It's like dude. That's their life. Yeah I know what I mean. That's their life you can't you can't find something something that is tantamount to that you know. Oh one hundred percent and and then on the other hand when you see someone like Andrew Luck retire early. You're like yeah I get that too. 'cause like life was on the line every play. Yeah and did you watch the deontay Wilder Tyson fury fight this weekend no. I just saw the highlights. It was great and but it should have stopped at round four. That's what I heard 'cause Tyson fury ruptured Dante's eardrum and it was over. He had no legs but with boxing. And it made me sick. And I'm I'm a huge boxing. Mma Fan. It's like every round that goes on knowing this guy doesn't have a shot means that that spring damage that will come into effect completely in twenty years from now. Yeah I mean the athletes. That retire early. I you know I totally get it. Especially in a game like football. I mean those guys to take that impact. I just you know day after day. Game after game is just brutal completely brutal but yet it's you know but you do what you love. You know you play a lot of ball with Sandler. Yeah I was going to mention that Sandler is. He's obsessed obsessed with it so he plays nonstop and he's he's got a workout guy. He doesn't like going to the gym like working out. So basketball's a perfect thing for him in a lot of people to it's just you know you break a sweat you get running you know get your heart rate and all that stuff so but he's really really good and he is ready to seemingly good. You can youtube videos of playing but he you know it's dangerous too because when you're filming you're really not supposed to put yourself in any kind of physical thing in case if you blow your neon before filming a movie. So she hughes with Adam Sandler you know you're in jeopardy of delaying production costing a lot of money but he would play all throughout filming nonstop and so it's hard to defend him. You don't want to be that guy right but we were shooting a movie one time and I elbowed him really hard on the hat on accident. He had this not on his head and I was like. Oh my God and I'm like Dude I'm sorry to music it's okay no he He was like no. It's fine it's fine. Because he knew he put himself in that position. You know it's like right. You're not you're not getting to the hoop on contests watch not on my watch Sandman year. Like the you're like the secret service guys. It would play basketball with Obama. And you're like fuck I can't can't put elbow into the praise. Yeah no he has one hundred points on last right but yeah once a shooting the movie click and this is what I that was. My first movie with. Sandler was on camera with him and he was like play Hoop. And how what any of you and I'm like. Oh my scenes next and he goes on. We got like an hour. Come on Man Mike. Okay so we play any pass me the ball and I caught it right on the tip of my pinky and I was like all my God and it hurts so bad. And he's like all right. I'm like Yeah it's jammed my finger and okay. Just can you still play? And I'm like yeah. I didn't want to let them down so I played. I took another pass on the tip of the same pinky and it was excruciating. And I was like I'm done and I we shot the scene. It's a scene in bed. Bath and beyond and after full towels and turns on my finger was broken. Shattered my pinky. No yeah and I just toss it out to the scene. Rifling passes to you like it was a hard pass but anybody who plays ball knows if you'd catch it like that it was just a fluke thing but I did it twice and my pinky was crooked for like five years you think it was the first one or the second passage Saturday. I don't think the second one helps. Yeah adjust to them now. Not I think it was a back to back Yeah so we have many questions. I are you guys playing basketball with make upon yes heavy. Heavy heavy makeup really truly. No No. No if it's in between between scenes now so that was I mean probably there is some but for the most part of the main people were mad. Because you have to you know I was all flush and you have to have to do more more work a little bit extra work to so bad like your wardrobe logs. And Moore's I remember seeing where you know where Adams headquarters is on the Sony. Lot Medicine watching him like I was shooting a really bad three dance movie there. You haven't seen it and He would just every other day. I'd see him walking in like the most beautiful loud like he looked like an Israeli who had just discovered basketball like in knee high socks. I liked just great gear and like walking the Basketball Court and I'm like comparing him like I'm sure it's very therapeutic for him. Yeah it really was and he they they had. They made a court for him. They called it a happy Madison Square Garden and Yeah they had a thing in the middle of the court and everything but yeah it was really therapeutic and and it is you know what I mean I I still shoot around and stuff like that but I just can't run games like I used to. I mean I'm forty three now. It's so insane and it is like the older you get the more you're just like I'm good to people constantly have a hard time believing you're forty three. Yeah I bet. Yeah when I'm on stage on my GAM forty-three and you can tell audience like what they think. I'm joking you know what I mean but you look young but your sensibility fields even younger. Yeah I mean I'm always i. I started doing comedy and acting when I was sixteen and then really did it right after high school. Yeah so when you're comedian your whole life. You're just it's almost like a state of arrested development where I'm just I've always I still like am just kind of immature and you know this silly stuff just still makes me laugh. I never was forced to be an adult. You know. That's why I don't know how to do anything you have done. This twenty five years and I. I'm still confused by Bill. Same here I you know so. It's it's really fun you know I still have a very silly mentality in You know I don't know but it does keep you younger. I mean for people out there listening just to laugh and and just enjoy your life and your friends and people around you that bring you joy and I it really does and you when you talk to really old people to like forty four now but when like interviews with like betty white and stuff like that in in their nineties and they they all say the same thing of just laughter. Really is Cathartic you know. Do you find that your the minority or the majority when it comes to Comedians. 'cause I think about Deleo who I've had on the pod Bobby Lee people like that they all. None of them seem like the grownups that I grew up with right. They all seem incredibly young like I. They never have to wake up for nine five. Yeah we're on the same boat. I know both those guys really. Well I mean I know all the every see the comedy world is very insular and we all know each other. It's it's really fun and yeah I mean that's our life you know so she the guys that you didn't get married and have kids and you know you can just Kinda live this Peter Pan Fun life that we don't have an overhead. You can sleep in you. Can you know write jokes about farting like forty three? I'm getting ready to do my. It'll be my six special and it's like I haven't new diarrhea joke farting joke. You know some people read online God snicks. Words in I saw last specialties. Like still has another diarrhea joke. I'm like yeah that's how I roll. Don't watch it if you don't want it. I'm GonNa talk about things that make me laugh. You know what mean and it is really fun. It's fun to have a a lifelike that the U. I was listening to you on the entry. Santino podcasts yeah. And you're using the phrase trial by fire and at one point you're like you weren't exactly sure the phrase and you were like trial by fire. Charro by challenged child by diarrhea. And I. It occurred to me after knowing you for like a decade that like diarrhea and a few other things are like in your arsenal like you. You like to go to those well. It started as one joke and it was. I did on Conan and I did it on one of my specials early on and it was My Cat I took my cat to that. My cat and the vets like well. What have you been feeding him? I'm like diarrhea. And it was so dumb and it would either work or wouldn't and it was. It just made me laugh because it's absurd you know and I did a Gig in an Ivy League college. I remember this kid in the front row went. Oh it's so stupid and I turned on when I go. Yeah stupid. That's the whole point like you can laugh at stupid shit. Yeah and then it turned into an next bunch like another joke and now it's just a running thing where it's like. It's just a joke on a joke where it's like now. I have a new diarrhea joke. So it's just it's it's just funny to me that now. It's just ironic that you know. I'm just jumping into like. I know that it's ridiculous. And that's the theme when People Watch comedy is like Oh God that guy stuff. It's so stupid it's really funny and I'm like why don't you just say it's funny. It's exactly how many movies I've done. People like yeah I laugh. You mean it's so dumb but I mean I laughed and it's like okay. Well no one's about I mean no one's above you know just silly shit. Just laugh if you don't WanNA laugh and don't you know it's all subjective but you don't have to act like everyone above you know certain kinds of comedy it's like Oh Yeah Oh yeah Fart joke. It's like yes all right. If you don't think for funding but they they are funny. They are funny one hundred percent the only thing I talk about it. I just peppered sometime I. Why do people feel the need to qualify in that way like I remember? And this is another boxing reference. But when do you remember when Andy? Ruiz beat Anthony Joshua like six months ago. You hear about that. Yeah and so. Anthony Joshua undefeated six African American. Do like looks like he's out of stone. Andy Reid is kind of like a more portly. Underdog type yes and every tweet after. Andy Ruiz one was. Can you believe this fat? Fuck or like the Chubb. Stir to the champion. And it was all like some reference to his weight and also good for him. Congrat- Champ and it was like fuck can you? Can't you? Just let be happy for him. Yeah can't just win and you don't have to qualify that. He's also overweight. Yeah no it it. Is that kind of thing where people always want to find an angle or just you know. Just take a shot or be like okay. Whatever that type of thing and I've seen it so much with comedy which is not even like win or lose it's so subjective and critics attack Sandler and they would attack me and they would just go off and it was. I'm like to laugh or don't laugh. You don't have to like what we do but to just find a loophole like Oh yeah. He's just doing this okay. Well that's stupid. Well this is horribly made. Well this yeah well. This part is just doesn't even make sense. And it's like Oh my God dude. Yeah like either like it or don't like it but with with somebody who winner loss like the guy one you know what I mean. You don't have to take him down a peg just go. Yeah Okay Well. Yeah you one you know get on him or just. Don't say anything you don't have to always chime in. It's like good God. It's gotta be Sandler and I can't think of any other example except for any Murphy to a certain point and then Eddie Murphy could no longer sustain. This and Sandler is kind of undefeated in this respect of that. He doesn't need critics right like his movies can crush in be panned and it's like while. I'm sure he doesn't appreciate it as a performer. It's also like I would imagine a lot of the hard time gets is because he really doesn't need anyone will know and that's the thing that really drove it was You know critics would take him down so much and it never mattered because this box office was great because you know people love them and they loved US movies and they wanNA laugh and they wanna have a good time and go to Santa Moving. You're like Oh yeah and you're going to enjoy it if you don't like him you don't like it but if you like him you know you you know that is what it is you know. The critics always tried to take him down and never worked and then it just made them more angry and you know when he would depart and do things with other directors and stuff like that and be okay. Well that that one's good. That's my favorite movie and it's like well you've still great and everything else just because you didn't like it. He's just as good as in zone as he wasn't Spanish. You know. So it's it's funny. How they pull that. I remember when I first started getting reviews and I would read them and they would infuriate me and I went up. When Grandma's boy came out and the critics got like fourteen percent on rotten tomatoes. They're like this movie is terrible It's just a favor movie to Adam's friends and they would just rip it dude and I got so mad and Adam pulled me aside you can't you can't get that in your head. You know what I mean. You've gotTa just let the movie stand on. Its own and let the fans love it. Let people who like it like it you know and you just can't let that get in your in your head and it just. It sucks for those people out there listening. It's like for me everything I do. I just wanted to always make people laugh. I just wanted to. That's that was how I started comedy. That's why started comedy. You know go on stage and I'm fawn silly and let's talk about what I want to talk about. And if you like it you like it if you don't you don't but that was my goal and so it's hard when stuff gets criticized and you just can't read it because it's like people that. I mean my movie Bucky Larson got zero percent on rotten. Does it still to this day? Yes zero you know. I did wallow for that movie. Did you really did as I got paid to do? Background voice overs for a. Thank you for the three hundred. Of course. Of course I needed it. That that's awesome but yeah so stuff like that and again you can dislike something but I mean the reviews are so scathing and I've walked rewatch said I'm like God I this movie. It's got a great cast to Christina. Ricci Stephen Dorrell Don Johnson Kevin Nealon all these people that all loved it. They were all like Oh. This is a blast and you know of course again. I'm not going like you know you've got to like it. You don't but it's just funny. The scathing how they'll attack everything about you to take it down a notch and take you down a notch and to say your awful and you know the things that they say could guy. I'd like I'm just trying to make people laugh. Dude you know. Is there anyone in your position or like atoms position like creators? People that have power in the business that have to be aware of themselves. Does everyone look at the reviews? Or they're truly some people that are like I make it and I don't look I don't know I don't know I'm sure there is but I mean for the most part I I just start looking at reviews at a certain point. Jesus yeah I was just like there's no point you know you're not you're not gonNA appeal to everybody and you know with critics. You know a lot of them look like you know. Is You know it's at cinematic. I mean comedy is so subjective. It's probably the most subjective thing on the planet because somebody can make you laugh can be like this guy's not funny at all right. You know so. It's really hard to review a comedy. I mean if you WanNa Review technically how the film looks or whatever I guess you can but for the most part you know I it's just it's completely subjective. I mean I I would go and read the reviews of movies I loved and I'd read the reviews of like dumb and dumber and step brothers and stuff like that and I'm like all those in my should get one hundred percent on rotten too because I love. Those movies are hilarious and stuff like that the best so you know. It's just funny to read those reviews and you're like dissecting like what what this movie is it's like either laugh or you don't what's the protocol so tell me your experience like so you do bucky and it doesn't quite connect with the critics. Do leave you alone to they. Call you right away and say how you doing. What's the protocol when when something's not quite connecting You know I think so. I don't remember completely but I remember. Yeah people are like. Oh sorry about that and I was like. Yeah you know. What am I going to do? You know it is what it is it hard to know what to do in that when you're the like the friend or like how do you just. Yeah especially when your name is on? I mean it's me on the poster. Sorta it is your. It is like a guy but I learned with Grandma's boy like I love that movie and just stood by the same thing with Bucky. I was like I love this. I love this movie. So that's all you can do at the end of the day is go all right. Well I made something. I'm proud of and defy stand behind so you can't live or die by criticism you know you have to have a thick skin and just gonNa keep creating and keep doing what I'm doing. It's hard it's hard to see when it's you and I like. I Love Grandma's boy. I auditioned for granted. I know I remember that. Were you in the audition? Yeah I was full producer and part of that. Well you were. Yeah but I was one of the writers producers. Yeah I remember Alan bean the I dish in but I feel like you know I was seventeen so I don't even know you're in the mix for it thank you. Yeah no you were I. I remember that I remember that means a lot. I remember a handful of people that were in the mix for it. I but I like those specific things where you you know suffer loss in our business but you are talented and you're good dude and you know people like to work with you. It's like and I've had this said to me where I've had a show got cancelled or whatever people don't worry you'll be fine given might be year might be three but like and. I just I just got this new show for Disney plus and it came at the end of what was like a three year. Contemplate all the choices. I ever made in life drought right of and yet all the people I loved him respect. Were just like just wait like your career up into this point. Hasn't been a fluke and you know you took a knock and you got a recovering. Go Away for a minute. But then you'll comebacks people like working with you and you're still good. Yeah to completely and that's another thing too. We both been down that road. Where if you get show cancelled if you have a movie bomb if you if you go through those highs and lows it is really really hard because it will push you and it will. You'll you'll question so many things. Yeah and the only thing you can really do is just believe in yourself and be a good person you know what I mean. Treat people with respect and just go forward and that's the great thing about Hollywood and that's a tricky thing is. I always tell people that struggle. I'm like look your life can change at any second right. And that's a dice. Roll that you make jumping into this business. Is You really have to have thick skin and and really be? You know it'll test you but at the end of the day you never know what dishes. GonNa come in what? What's what's going to happen. Who YOU'RE GONNA meet but all you can do is focus on yourself and being a good person. Just be really basic humanity you know. I don't know so when you I was listening to you on Theo's podcasts. And you were talking about how you were kind of a a smaller kid growing up. And that's where you first started developing your ability with comedy because you would kind of use it as a defense mechanism which is not new news when it comes to the comedian type right right is that is that true. Yeah no I was Kinda I was Kinda runt of Of the letter and had a brother locking you in lockers in small spaces. Yeah totally and I went to a pretty like hardcore school. Where was there are a lot of tough really tough kids? But I was just always goofy. I always was just silly and it was in my nature to but it also kind of disarm people where nobody really mess with me. They would always kind of only would always just laugh and I always wanted me around. I was just I was just silly. Family Funny Yeah they are. They are funny. They have a really good sense of humor Yeah for sure but Yeah it was always something that that that helped me throughout life just having a positive just funny outlook on everything and it was. I always equate this to as I I always said. It was kind of like a superpower when I was younger because I was. I WOULD MAKE JOKES ABOUT PEOPLE. Make jokes about teachers and everything and my brothers and sisters and some and sometimes when your kid you don't understand the power of like a joke so I would say something like fucking horrible about my sister and she'd be like are crying. I'm like Oh God and I slam somebody at that age you can. You know hurt their feelings so all you got. You're like okay. Yeah I've got to use my power wisely. I can't just go ripping everybody all the time. Have you like that that little fuck face at the Ivy League school who said Your diarrhea joke was what did he say he goes. Oh it's so stupid. Have you ever gone off on a heckler? Someone you've heard the audience. I mean not really. I got booed off stage once or now why when I was first starting because I wasn't it was I moved from Minnesota to New York and Minnesota is very midwest. Very Nice. And very you know. Even if you weren't great on stage they would be like all right. Well you know he's trying than the you know it was. It was really hard to like bomb and then when I moved to New York it was a different world. It was like okay like if you're not making them laugh fucking real quick. You're GONNA know it. Yeah you're done so yeah there was an I was really clean and I was going off. You know when you're starting out you have to go on at any time they give you and I was like midnight there so it was. It was a late crowd and they were just not having it and they were like boo and I was like talking about my cat and like cats are weird right They were just like no. I don't give a fuck about your cap. Gotham the seller. It was fine comedy club. Now catching the no Boston comedy club in the West Village and Yeah never forget that and Booed off stage. Sounds like sorry? I'm sorry and I just love to stage. Shell shocked. I didn't I didn't go on stage and this is. I was going every night if I could go on for like two weeks. It was horrified. How horrible that made me feel. It was everything in my power to get back on stage. How much does it impact you? Now if you don't if you have a set that doesn't go quite right. I mean I've done it twenty five years. I've done you know my shows are my fans. I'M AWESOME FAN BASE. And there are centers so great so if something doesn't work. I'm just you know I don't really care. I mean you know I know what my my fans like and I know what is going to work at this point. You know so it doesn't really faze me but if I you know I sometimes some stuff won't go like I wanted to go some jokes. I'm like damn it. I'll just kinda slough it off. Whatever it's interesting because I have started touring colleges doing like thirty minutes of stand up and like a thirty minute. Qna Wow and basically. It's like. I'm going on winning crowd. 'cause THEY WANNA see me right. I have stories that I know work about my career in projects that they like and drake and Josh and whatnot. Yeah so it kind of. I know that I'm a very specific position that I couldn't walk up at the comedy store on a Tuesday night but I can like make these kids kids laugh and yet. I'm starting to see after doing it now. Like thirty or forty times. The specifics of the environment. And you see here comedians. Talk about like there. Yes you should be able to be great anywhere but there are outside circumstances. That influences. Like if I'm in a proper auditorium that's dark with a good sound and a camera so like I'm illuminated on a screen behind me so people can see what I'm doing. That is almost always much better than if I'm in like a large ballroom. That's completely flat lighting no stage and. I'm just walking around like giving a keynote at fucking. Ibm Yeah Yeah completely different. It's so much about the environment you know. And when you're starting out you've got to get on stage as much as you can and like you said to go up in any. Commune goes up with a skeleton of an outline of what they're gonNa say and stuff that you know works and stuff like that. You don't throw yourself out in a situation like that where you're just completely free falling. You know what you're going to say and then you can add to it or refund. What you're what you're already talking about. Whatever you want whatever's going on but you know when you're starting out you're subjected to just you have to get on stage and that's when it's really tough especially in Los Angeles where I would go with my friends. Who were coming up. And they would do open mics and they'd be like three people there and hear other comics go. We'll any such good stage time stitch time and I'm like yeah but I don't really agree with that because my friends who go into like a horrible impression afterwards and I'm like yeah I it's Not Every thing not all stage. Time is amazing. You know I mean you if you grow off it sure but I mean. Sometimes it's you know it's not that great I am. I wrong to think that great comedy comes from cold weather. No I mean. I've heard that theory before really. Yeah you'RE MINNESOTA SANDLER NEW HAMPSHIRE FROM ARIZONA. Heats only okay. No I'm saying you're right. Yeah Okay Cool. No Yeah I've heard that before When you think it is I mean I feel like bad weather makes people. Funnier will if I feel like it forces you to really go inside of yourself. Yeah because it's so miserable outside so it does make you kind of think a little bit because you know you're not just running around in the Sahn everything's amazing so it does make you go like. Oh what is going on in my brain. And then you're just you know rainy or snowy errant outside so yeah there's probably a probably method to that or madness. Lighten up fucking just the worst conditions ever. I mean I'm sure there were like some hilarious people in the lunch line at Lake. The filming of Eight Mile. I was GonNa ask you and I'd be remiss if I didn't because he's one of my favorites ever what was Mitch Hedberg Lake. Oh mitzvahs great yen. You guys were boys right. Yeah Yeah He started before me but he was from. Saint Paul Minnesota where I'm from really and Mitch and I became. Yeah we are. We were good friends he was he was a sweetheart and it's funny because that Diarrhea Joke. I told about going to the doctor and feeding them diarrhea. I gave that to Mitch and we were backstage at a comedy club. Minneapolis semi came in. You wrote you want it. And he goes. What is it and I told the JOKE. And he goes now man. You keep it and I couldn't tell if it was like now I'm not fucking during that job being like keep it. Yeah because I don't think he really took jokes from people. I I mean I I mean meaning that. I don't think you know somebody wrote him a joke. I don't think he he ever did it. I think he was somebody that you know. I'm like that too. I just like to do my own for my own brain you know. Yeah but Yeah I'll I'll never forget that man you you can keep it was he because it seemed like his persona it much like when you see someone else. Great like a Hunter S. Thompson. Right where their their work is. One thing you become obsessed with and then their persona you become obsessed with like was he was he that offstage that like yeah man like this shirt is dry clean. Only which means it's dirty like she was somebody that how he was on stage was not too dissimilar to. Howie was offstage really really shy and really sweet really. It was such a good dude. I mean you know he. He would be a little bit more open up. You know what I mean is off stage but you know he was somebody that liked to be around people that he trusted and knew you know I mean but You know he He was really unique and he was one of the guys to and I've only been a handful of people like that in my life. I'll never forget the first time I saw him on stage and it was in Saint Paul Minnesota to place comedy gallery doesn't exist anymore but he went onstage packed house and he went up and told like a one liner laugh then he would wait like twenty or thirty seconds any tell another one and it would get a laugh it would wait and to me starting out one of my biggest fears. What a lot of people's fears are when they start out doing. Standup is silence. Sure if it's just dead quiet so I was always afraid of that so I was always kind of really hyper when I first started and I remember seeing mentioned on. I'll just never forget how he over the years he he would. Just let the audience come to him. He never forced anything else. He never tried to be something he wasn't he just stuck by what he did. And that's what he did. And I you know Zach. Galifianakis was like that when we were coming up in New York and They just did what they did. And it was like. If the audience wasn't onboard they were like all right. Well catch up. You know what I mean. Yeah in that kind of like this is what I'm GonNa do. And then you know their voices got found and then people like. Oh this guy's amazing it's like yeah. I mean once people got hurt. Stephen Wright was like that back in the heyday of stand up back in Boston. He would go on stage audiences rowdy and loud and drunk and he would just talk as jokes when people feel like they would here me like? Oh that's funny and that finally the whole room had got quiet because they wanted to hear what he was saying so he just was like. I'm GonNa do this so you guys do you know if you wanted on it you know. Shut the fuck up type of thing and I always thought that was really amazing to watch. Watch somebody do that it. Just it's amazing to hear because when you hear a guy like Mitt you assume that like everything is perfectly written and that you know he's delivering these perfectly worded sort of setup punchline said he's worked on and then in his albums you'll hear him improvise a bit like the the Phil Bit. Do you remember that from his his album. Where some guy screams out He's got a pipe up on sage because he wants to be able to smoke so he's got a pipe up on seeds because it's bi trickle and he's like You know a pipe is the joke like a if if I'm sorting this pipe. Y'All better be laughing because it's like giving me a moment but basically what happens is he's got the pipe and some guy screams out like I got some for that Got Some new put in that. And he's like man you like to fill shit he's like what's your name. And he's like Phil Phil. That's too good. He's hilarious and he starts improvising within his but in ahead Burgi and way where like where houses so just on I mean. I can't explain how their brain works. But if you're in a groove and you're out the right mindset you can just go with anything you know I mean. That's how Mitch's brainwork too. I love that so funny. That how you know he he could just run with something like that because I mean that is perfect famous. Fill rate and Yeah that's that's great. But yeah I mean sometimes the improvisation people yelling stuff out. That happens all the time. And you just your brain. It's almost I was talking about this with somebody today. It's there were like. How do you have such quick? Like if you're in a conversation comeback and stuff like that and your brain is just trained like anything when you grow up in the comedy world surrounded by Comedians. You're always thinking about comedy or just how your perception is and how you look at things. He your mind is just train and condition that way just like anybody does anything when you live it. And it's your constant life that's you know. I. It becomes subconscious and yet and I'll hear Delia or like Bryan. Callen talk about silly goose time and how they just want to be silly goose and just laugh and BITs BITs BITs BITs and and there times at which I want to be like. Aren't you fucking exhausted. I remember I saw David Blaine it dinner once and he was doing card tricks and I wanted to say Dave. What are you running from pages but not necessarily in that way but I also did it ever get exhausting where you're like. No more bits committed talk. It depends upon who your wealth. I mean if you're with a certain group of people that you just click with. Yeah then it's just game on. It's such a blast. I did fighter in the kid with Theo and count and Brennan Shaab and we just bum rushed it just showed up and we just it was just one of those situations Rosa. Nothing serious is going to get done on this thing which was fine. It was great but I mean something like this where it's it's nice just to talk like I. I don't like to be on and people always think that you are so. I've met so many people that have met me out where they're like. Okay Yeah I'm like I just seem like mellow I'm like. Yeah I'm mellow a lot. You Know Myself. Yeah but it does kind of confuse people sometimes especially if. I'm not drinking then. People are like oh like sometimes so do. Does it ever stop? I imagine is comedian. The worst thing is tell me joke. Your comedian Tommy Job to set. Stop when you become famous Yeah for the most part good. Yeah it is pretty horrifying and I would but the great thing about it is when I was starting out before I was famous. I would get pulled over by cops for whatever bullshit and when I first moved out to La. I had an out of state car without a state plates and a broken headlight. I was getting pulled out. Pulled over a lot and my go-to immediately. No matter what time of day it was. They'd be like all right. What are your license registration? I'm like Hey I'm really sorry I just moved to town. I'm a stand up comedian and I have a show tonight and they would immediately be like what am I know like? Oh really your community. And I'm like yeah like Oh we'll t- tell me a joke and I would always have a couple jokes to tell them and they'd be like all right. Yeah well good luck man and they would just let me go cop related jokes. What's the deal with? Don't like no they were like really projects. One of them was A blonde walks into a library. And she's like. Can I get two cheeseburgers? Maybe like a library. She's like sorry. Can I get you? And it's just a simple joke. But they would always laugh and then another one was a little longer was so dumb. I understood what I said. I shouldn't do please. It's funny guy with a wooden nine wants to go out to a dance club. He's subcontract self conscious about his night so he goes out and he's sitting there by the dance floor and he was like oh. I should dance and he sees a girl and a little overweight. She's sitting alone and he's like I'm going to go ask her. I'm going to go ask her to dance and you can tell. She's a little self conscious to he. Walks UP GETS OCCURS. Walks over and he goes. Hey man would you like to dance? And she's like would I and he's like fat ass casino one nine and we got some good but we get a lock house all right all right. I don't know if you'll appreciate this. Because you're not in the tribe but do you WanNa hear my new favorite Jewish joke yes My favorite Jewish joke a Christian business owner runs into another Christian business owner and says how business in the Christian business owner replies crate. That's funny I have no one else gets it? Just us There's a juice comedian. I saw on instagram. That was really funny. I don't want to paraphrase joke Renown Hershberg Dame yeah. He's turned New York and he had a joke. It was about God creating light and How I don't want to paraphrase this joke I'm going to forgive me But he said of how like there'd be opening in the Bible and created light and it was good. Yes that's how you know. God is Jewish. Because he's like yeah. It was good. I wasn't like it was great. It was like good great. You know I'm butchering joke. Forgive me but it was something like that was pretty funny. That's good So you're sober. Now Yeah five months I quit drinking and I would go through periods where I would drink. And that's another thing with comedy and just you know. Well it's with anything but you know for me. It was just you know it was such a break drinking and especially when you know if you only work in an hour a night or then you have time off from filming you know it was just great drinking but after a while after older you get. You're just like all right. You just can't make just drink all the time so I just taking a long break right. Sabbatical yeah just developing a new. Tv show and newsstand of our. Will you almost you almost died from it? No Yeah it was pretty bad I see how yeah I took the entire summer off and I was like you know what I was just kind of tired of it because I pitched another. Tv show last Spring and finished a movie and the TV show. Didn't go and nobody got it. And that's another frustrating part of this businesses that you know when people don't see you working for like oh how come you're not working and it's like oh no I am. I right all the time and I pitched shows and you pitched off and people. Don't get it networks like we don't get it. It's so frustrating. And you know it's just a big picture of rejection nonstop and something you believe in. I'm like yeah but we've got this great director in this. This idea is great. And they're like get and so finally last summer I was like fuck this. I'M NOT GONNA shoot this summer. I'M GONNA go to Baseball Games. I'M GONNA hang out my friends. I'm just GONNA drink. I'm a drink every day. Great and it was great and it was awesome and I had a blast and it was just no responsibility. I would do shows here and there and they were fine. And you know. Got Compounded with a couple. A friend Brody Stevens killed himself last February. But then that Kat compounded with another friend of mine who had killed himself and that brought up those two things hit me like a tornado in the middle of drinking then I had another death in my family and it was just and when you're at that point of drinking a lot over the course of time and then those two things really Kinda Punch you and then another that other death and then it was just it became game was on yeah just became on on the planet and I just wasn't all there and I just drank for different reason and then it got to the point where I I was drinking so much that my system crashed when I was in Minnesota and I got an airplane vomiting nonstop landed in Denver and then I had to go to an emergency room and I was in the yard for three weeks. 'cause you had sepsis in your blood. I had altitude sickness. Alcohol poisoning pancreatitis A kind of blood bacteria that they didn't know what it was. I had the MONJA. I'd all these things hit my system. It wants to add on like eneg unrelated but yes and area and And I had an ice cream headache. I just eat nice cream but No all these compounded me at once and I almost died. I had a ten percent chance of living with were they. Were you in a like a version of like a medically induced sedation lying? No no it wasn't a homer type thing but I was. It was kind of a sedation where I was out. I was definitely spent a handful of days just completely Gonzo. Yeah onto the whole washing your blood. The whole nine. Yeah it was gnarly slowly bounce back but I thought like Oh get out of the hospital be fine but now it took a while and I had to go through extensive I did a lot of holistic stuff with my doctor and just flushing out of my Oregon's acupuncture and cupping and stuff like that destroy toxins out because it was completely. I mean nuked my system it was crazy and I'd never experienced IV's before like Hung over you know blue and stuff like that but this was like another lab if I had not flown to Denver would have been better stated Minneapolis but the altitude and then getting on a plane and then I still try to drink through it. Even though I was throwing up everything I threw up into my carry on my seat. I mean it was like bad and what was your carry on made like who makes your carry Gucci Backpack. No it's just a wag luggage and I didn't. I was this Minnesotan employed I am. I didn't want to bother the guy next to me says on the window seat. So it's like I'll just slide over here. That's trying to bomb it sideways in my backpack. Well the guy clearly noticed who's on his laptop watching a movie. What was in there my fucking close so that I get to the hospital. I had to cancel. My shows. Their rescheduled and yeah. My sister was like she flew in and went through my bags. What is this substance? What am I gonNA of bile vomit for my body could guide? You can give her a heads up before she opened up. You know I was. I was all tube up on Youtube. Literally had is so so when you talk about like your drinking and and I've heard a couple pods where you always say like yes. I drink in excess but it was always a great time for the most part was always. Yeah it was great. I mean there were times though where I would. It was clearly drinking to deal with show but is there like this can't be. I wonder right 'cause like the one thing I know in from being sober for this long. Is that like people that take a break from drinking. Who like take six months off or like it usually means it and it doesn't necessarily mean they're alcohol could just means that they have a unhealthy relationship with alcohol. Right right like it cannot be can both be true. Can you be like I know? It's kind of unhealthy but also have a great time. Yeah completely and that's why people are like you're alcoholic and I was like well I mean I am and I'm not because you know when I usually when I would. I would just love doing it now. We can just keep doing it and if I wanted to stop I just stopped so I zero problems going to bars. I still go to bars almost every day and hang out with my friends. I sure I have no problems not doing it. I would just drink to excess and I would have a blast and like I always loved the story for the next day like dude you fucking wipe down that Bush and then like you know like all this shit where you'd be like urinated in the sink and then you you know we bring it up to your hotel room and the luggage rack and it was just like it was funnier. The younger you are but when you're in your forties it's like all right. This is ridiculous but Yeah I I never had panic moments where I knew people like that where they're like couldn't even look at a bar couldn't see an empty bottle couldn't do that stuff. So you know it affects everybody differently but you know I I would just get into patterns and a lot of it was by choice. I was like I'm going to drink. I'M GONNA get fucking hammered. It wasn't like Whoa what's happening. I'm like Oh no I'm gonNA fucking I'M GONNA go. The distance I was. I was listening to Santino spot. And this this. I'm upset giving so many interesting. Tino free endorsements but he does have a good podcast and his was the first. I did outside of the hospital. Oh Wow that was why was fresh. Yeah that was why it was so fresh on. That topic is that was literally like two weeks out of the hospital. Maybe three and you sort of said during the time in which you're getting it on you. Kinda gave a sort of a play by play of a twenty four hour period of drinking for you during that time right and it seems to start at six. Am and end at last call. And I'm not sure when you sleep I'll tell you. Can I be really quick please? I mean the building. Yeah it's cool right okay. Yeah so if I was really on one I would and this is. The thing is and this is really dangerous. When you're drinking is that you start to drink just to feel normal right so if I was on if I went on like a weekend getting drunk and then I would need a cocktail to all right. Do you do that just to get your nerves off and then you get to a point where it was. I would need four cocktails just to feel normal. And what was your go to cocktail. I've I've gone through every kind of liquor phase but I I would end with vodka so I would try to be healthy. Drink Vodka water with a lime clean. Yeah clean and but yeah it was it got to the point where I would get up at five. Am because I couldn't sleep. And then I would go to the bar at six. Am and I would drink until like eleven. Then I would go to another bar and then I would drink until like three and then I would go and pass out and then I would wake up at like seven or eight and then I would go back out until I was call and I was drinking a bottle Bob Dylan and a half a day of Baku for how I mean. Could this go two months ago months at a time but I it's and maybe just because I'm projecting because I know for me when I drink use. It was it was just bad. News bears quick. I was not good at you. Know you always hear like Winston Churchill. Drink like a fifth of fucking whiskey days and it's like I was not Winston Churchill. I was child actor Josh Peck and I just seem to nose dive. I couldn't manage. Were you able to keep that up and nothing was falling through the cracks. Well first of all. Let's not ignore the fact that you are the Winston Churchill of child actors. Thank you so much I used to Shiloh but I I agree it's me nope Winston Churchill. God bless you yes. Keep buggering on What was the question like we a while? You're in the middle of this run. Are Things not falling through the cracks or you? Are you really maintaining? I mean yes no I mean for the most part I would never drink when I filmed. Sometimes I did but it was pretty rarified. A weekend off but for the most part I didn't drink when I would film and other actors would be like what it's Friday. Let's have drinks. I'm like no. I can't do that. I would drink up and tell filming sometimes. I mean there's movies I've gone into like definitely not a hundred percent together and I probably look like shit some of them but for the most part you know I if I had to focus I would really focus but you know if I you know my shows. Sometimes I would have to cancel shows and like last summer I had to cancel shows twice because What my friends committed suicide I was just. I couldn't go onstage. I was just like I can't do it so I had to cancel shows and when I was in the hospital I had to cancel shows again but For the most part I would get my shit together. You know I mean I could my tolerance. I could drink a lot and still maintain I mean I would do huge tours and I would drink half halfway through half of them you know. It was a blast. Now we go out you know and still do my show. I mean I knew what I was doing. What about like the M- the smaller Shit like? Where people were you texting everyone back when you were sort of three sheets to the win. Yes and no. I mean Riyan Tapa emails. Yes and no I mean if I if I wanted to check out I mean sometimes and I would do it regardless. Someone's I just wanted to check out. Yeah you know a lot of it was like I just didn't I remember when I was on when I was on the road. I lost my phone and I don't know if anybody out there listening has experienced this but I broke my phone and I was like how fucking phone and I was like. I'm just going to hang out like northern California and out of cocktails and drake today go to launch and and it was really nice not having my phone and I I went on social media and deemed like my sister and Email my manager and came iphones and I was just off the grid and it was great and then all sentencing everybody into a panic and then like all of a sudden you know it spiraled into my my opening act. My Buddy Josh was getting. He was getting panicked emails and panic. This and panic that of what's it what is he doing. He's drinking and he's like he's fine. He's just he doesn't. WanNa get phone right away. He doesn't need a phone. I didn't need a phone right away. I mean I could still check my emails on my laptop and you know that was kind of interesting to me. Is that if you don't have a phone? You're not human anymore or you're not alive you know which is a valid point if somebody's on suicide watch or something like where it's like. Oh my God but you know. Sometimes it's like you know anytime. I didn't have my phone for a couple of days. It was great but it would send people into an immediate like. Oh my God is fucking Dad I was. I was still in touch with people mike. Hey I'm on my email. I'm on social media you can. I can access that through a computer but it was nice not having to like just constant tax and bullshit and you know it's really great and I actually recommend people doing that like you know I would go to Hawaii a lot. I go to Hawaii all the time. I love it and my buddies always other phones and I would leave it back at the hotel and I'm like Juanita's not bring your phone out. Yeah and just skip a day unless you have something like really imperative. Obviously but if you can have that liberty of just just you know not have your phone for a minute and it's really great to be in the water be in the ocean. Just go about your day or just you know. Just take a break you know and get go outside and just not just liver die fucking phone. It's really weird for the younger people listening. And I'm sure you've heard this before. Forgive me but it is surreal to think of a world and I grew up in a world where there were no phones where you didn't have that and it is really bizarre. You do feel like oh I remember. I hate being that guy but it's just really honest. It is pretty surreal to see be giant leap that everything's taken with phones and social media and stuff like that but just your phone. It's crazy. I used to have that sort of older guy issue with convenience culture and I was like fuck posts mates fuck the starbucks app you can literally put your ordering and just walk in its pre made. You don't have to talk to anyone. Uber on these things. Just make it way too convenient so that you don't have to you know kids nowadays. Don't want their license because they're like. Oh my mom would drive me all uber and for me that was such a right of passage Shannon and then got post meets and I got star examples. Like this fucking amazing. Yeah I don't talk to a Barista too good for that. Give me my egg. Wait for Totta and my Arnold Palmer. Heavy T to good yeah. I gave my car up for years ago. I don't own a car. Okay I heard you say that. And here's my question because I have a buddy who did that right and he was like I got a Dui and so I no longer wanted to drink and drive so I stopped driving. Did you give it up because it was like it was getting in the way of your drinking? No I was I trade control at a young age which is so horrible and honestly anybody out there do not drink and drive. It really is the worst thing you can do. Even if you think you're fine it's just don't roll the dice on that and I never got a Dui but no for me it was just. I'm really environmental. And so I just. I wanted to just for the environment. I live in a neighborhood. Why can walk anywhere? I moved from New York where you walked everywhere right and So I just liked walking and I didn't like driving because driving in La was just so awful and it was such another stress additive. Where after I quit driving. I didn't realize how much more peace of mind I had and you know I don't you know I'll just take an uber or lift and you know it's it's a couple of bucks obviously but in the big picture of car payments and insurance and everything. It took it evens out and again. I'm lucky enough to live in a part of town and see in a city where I can do a lot of walking free exercise. No this is a you know. Yeah I'm not like Uber from my living room to my bathroom or anything where it's like the degree of lazy that'll be the next step is like just. Uber Uber People. I'm not getting getting off. This fucking codge. Just carry me on the toilet. Do you Do you you miss drinking. I mean I do and I don't. I've thought about it. I'm like I might have a drink but it's one of those things where you know. Once I always started I mean I could maybe have to call it but you know when I when I drank I liked to just sign up for the experience of like you know I'm GonNa get fucking drunk and I just don't really miss it because I did it. You know I did it. There's nothing I haven't done where you know I've been shrunk in every city. I'VE BEEN DRUNK IN EVERY SCENARIO PARTY IN VEGAS I party. You know. I've done all that stuff. So where John Boise? I have not when I was on tour in Boise. I wasn't drinking them. Trunking Tuscaloosa I've never been in Tuscaloosa Montgomery Alabama Mobile Alabama Better Radel by the way mobile city. Good alcohol. Yeah. It was great. Good drinking town solid. Yeah I've been drunk in so many towns it's been a blast but you know I don't know if I'll be back. Who knows but I? There's nothing there's no regrets. I'm not like Oh. I wish I'd gotten hammered in Florida. It's like done that I've ever got drunk in Sarasota but it's you know drinking. It's everyone's different at the end of the day. It's all infects people differently. Different liquors effect people differently. You know it's just it's good. It's always good to you now. Know why you're drinking. Yeah it's always good if you WANNA cut loose for Batra party. Yeah but if you're you know if you're in a really dark place that can not be a great thing I but I do. I so identify with you because when I would drink like people would say. Do you WANNA come over for drinks before dinner before the movie and I'd be like for what like I? I have no interest in a drink right. Like if we'RE GONNA do it. We're going to do it. Yeah and having one just seems having one seems worse than having none. Yeah I agree with that. I have a lot of friends said that. Were of that mindset of like. I know some glass of wine. I can't even. I mean maybe that'll be the next osmosis of evolution. Yeah the evolution of US. Use that word for no reason. My wife has half a Margarita and I hate it. I don't like when she drinks half a diet coke but she'll drink half a Margarita Blake but if you drink the rest it will double the effects shelby. Like I've never not finished to me either. Okay so last question before last question is can you? I'm I'm fascinated by people like sandler and whatnot. And what it takes to have the level of workload and and I guess for lack of a better word accomplishment that they have. Can you distill down like anything you witnessed working with him so intimately for so long where you're like all man like that's one of your like that's one of your superpowers Adam. I'm amazed by him at all times. That he though the amount that he juggles and that he's juggled in terms of being such a great family man and overseeing giant production company and everything on from TV shows and you know so many movies in developing so much stuff. I mean He. He's somehow is able to really passionately. Believe in everything too. When we going back to Bucky Larson we had a script. And I remember me and him did like ten rewrites on it and I'd Never Britain movies and and I'd never done anything like that and he's like no no no. Let's let's go back over. Let's go back go but he just was committed to just fine tuning and fine tuning it. You know whatever you think of the end result. We loved it. Yes and what does that look like so like you send him a pass and then he does his notes and we have passed. And then you know he's like okay. Do another pass and immune uncovered another pass and then then. I just sat at his house. And I'm like come over and we were just sit there and we would go over at scene by scene by scene by seeing and calm over and come over and come over it and then you know the thing with him to one thing I'd like to do is we. Would we would right up until the very last second? So when I would produce movies with him you know I would get the script for the day or the they're called sides. Which are the pages at your shooting that day in my trailer and go over them and I would punch those up and bad stuff and all this stuff and you know so it was just constantly? It would never ever stopped. There was never a point where it's like Okay it was from the very second and that you know that includes improvising. I'm throwing things out. And you know he he just a workhorse. He's anybody who thinks like. Oh you guys make it look so easy and fun much to be. Our people are always like oh you guys must be high and drunk the whole time and it's like now it's worked like we go to work and it's you're working the whole time are you. Do you ever have to distinguish a? Let's say you're writing something for Sandler or you're there on the Dan. You're writing all and Improv and whatnot. Do you ever have to like make that decision of like? Oh this is funny to me. But maybe this isn't atoms voice or or ever sweetly really. Yeah that's the thing that was a skill set that I learned and had quickly was being able to write four. Somebody's voice so when I would adamant had me write jokes for him for talk shows when he would do letterman when he do tonight show and stuff like that. I just learned what jokes weren't Adams. Voice what the tone was and what the perspective was. I remember when I was. I was one of the writers on bench. Warmers and I remember David Spade called me and he was like yeah. Just read the script. Scenarious he goes. I. I've never had somebody right in my voice like that like all. These jokes are my exact delivery and tone and everything and I was like yeah. I've watched you for years so I knew exactly what you can deliver on. What what you're cadence. And everything is and he was like Jesus Christ and then worked with David forever. But yeah I I'm writing a TV show now and I'm writing with the to lead for the two lead actors and I just know their voices. I don't know if I can talk about it but You know the people involved and it's the pilot presentation that I'm shooting out of pocket. That's fun out of pocket. Yeah I was tired of pitching and I was like you know what I'm GONNA pay out of pocket for a fifteen minute pilot presentation and I got a director. Amazing Line producer amazing director and To cast members with me. That are fucking awesome. And they're not under contract or anything they they're just doing it because it's you know they like it and they can trust me and Yeah so I'm just so excited to have that freedom liberty but yet to write for. Somebody's voice is so great it sits gifter. It's funny 'cause I was interviewing our boy. Rick glassman fell over and I said something to that effect of like the thing about doing because it grew up on sitcoms and the thing that I grew up or a the thing that was challenging for me when I walked into that steam. Osho within a half hour comedy should never hersal right. You show up on the day and I think you you know you can attach that like there are sometimes things that I'm sure crushed in the writer's room but for whatever reason on the day in my voice. It's not quite connecting riot. And and what Rick said to me is a gap. But it's our job to make it work as the actors and I'm like you're so right. Rick and yet there's a big part of me that feels like sometimes it's impossible if it's not if it's not quite in your voice and there's some weird disconnect you can't always make every joke hey. I agree. Yeah there's certain I've turned down a ton of stuff and I still don't really like doing things where I'm not heavily creative on on the project right where I can easily. I'm hired because of that. Were there like Oh sports. Just do his thing yes like. He'll add whatever he'll deliberated however you know but Yeah I can't I can't just be a joke off a page like yeah just read it. You know what I mean. I just can't do that unless it's something that I really trust or something where I don't know I just I always WanNa be creatively involves. It's so hard because I've had moments in which I've gotten shape for trying to rework something or adding or whatever and I just want to say like listen. I'm lazy like my dream would be just say this and go home and not worry about it right if I'm doing this because it feels bad me and like I'm just doing my very best to at least try to make this funny to me and hopefully you and maybe I I probably suck as a writer like I'm just giving it a try because we just tried it three times and it didn't quite land and they're like yeah but they didn't the network didn't approve your shitty writing. I'm like okay. Gotcha it's hard. It's hard it is really hard actor for higher at time. Yeah I mean that's like I would just pass on so many TV opportunities. 'cause I just always when I was first starting out. I'm like I don't WanNa get stuck on a sitcom just to be on a Sitcom and then I'm at the mercy of just especially network network writing where it's very specific. It's not it doesn't seem like a lot of room to just Riffa. So yeah if you have any ideas. I mean they'll probably say that but at the end of the day the show runners gonna be married to one or he wants and the head writer is GonNa be like no. I love this joke. You know right or leg. I would be really tricky for me to do something like that. I interviewed a buddy of mine. Who's a show runner? My Buddy Sam Lebron. He said the problem is is that we love it but we know as a writer said it took us six weeks to get all this shit approved right and we like had to rewrite it six symes and maybe completely throw out the outline and think of a new idea so finally agreed to this. And they're like so. Were terrified to bring it to them in the them say. Why do we just spent six weeks? And you give us something different. Yeah and and then there's that other side too. I wonder if you subscribe to this. He's like and then also he's like you have to be careful with bits. There's a fine line between this is great and we found some great on the day and is this just funny. Because it's new right you know. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah. Completely it Yeah I mean and also you know there's certain things to where it's like also does that fit the character getting laugh to get a laugh. Does it fit? The context of the scene. Is it driving it forward? Yeah does it fit the big picture of what's going on you know. Yeah that's another thing that you have to watch out for two. As I've heard a lot of comedy directors old school comedy directors be like we would have to cut a lot of stuff because it was funny but it didn't ultimately fit in the big picture of what who the character was. You know a good jokes joke but you know if it doesn't fit doesn't fed. Okay last question. What are your one or two Nick? Schwarzen- commandments truths. That you have discovered that you would want to impress upon someone else. I would say I would say I mean just in general I would say I would say right. Always right even if you're a writer even if you're not a writer even if you're in the business even if you're not in the business to just write your thoughts right your emotions right anything. Whatever you're dealing with whatever anything funny maybe anything anything you want to do. Just write it down. Just sit there and just as a therapy exercise in any mindset that you're in if you're frustrated with anything just write about it just sit down and just get it out and look at it and you can reflect on it later. You can do whatever you want but I really find and I've talked to a lot of people about this that there is a real catharsis just putting your mind down and looking at it and just going okay you know again and whatever mindset your if you know if you just want to write something funny you think it's funny just write it down or just write about your day or just something just to just spend time with yourself and I guess that can segue into the second thing where you know to really focus on yourself to really put in the work of You know a lot of people put so much pressure on you know. I need a relationship. I need to be dating. I need to be doing this needs to be doing that but really at the end of the day to just I mean as somebody who's gone through all of it and try to drink through it and trying to do this and trying to that to really just sit with yourself and deal with you know it just sounds so corny but like find out who you are and just getting to know and be comfortable with who you are yourself and dealing with your shit and then everything else will kind of be gravitate towards that you know and that's one thing where I'd like to start eating better. That was really huge. I started cutting out like sugar and stuff like that and cutting down stuff like that where I would just treat my body better. Even when I was drinking I would still be. I would like eat Vegan. You know what I mean like even in the peak benders out still be like. Oh yeah no cheese on that place or not. I don't WanNa Soda. Oh ticket tea or something. Like tea and vodka. Yeah no but I would always just you know it's just good to to really focus on yourself and make yourself the best that you can be and then other things will you know grab like a set gravitate towards that maybe if you go back to drinking Kabukicho hard Kombucha I've done. That seems rather go on a yoga bender. Yeah something like that better. I like fucking pilates. just get. Shit House Pilates. All high on my spirit. Thank you man. Love you by Levy. Thank you the CEO do you. That was it now. His knick's wirtz in good rights was not great. No will fuck you too then. I'm just kidding. Thank you guys for listening. I love you. I appreciate you Tortilla soon okay bye.