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"turney" Discussed on Against The Odds
"Look ships guard. I signed up to be on the ship. Ships gone so therefore. I don't need to take your words is anymore and shackleton again. Hi kylie -ticipant. But there might be a risk of this guy she. He would need men off about a dumping anticipated sinking. But if you're unsure attached to the the nannu on the on the ship and so written this clause in the contract and they publicly read out to everyone that they were still under his orders. Work orders they would. They would be paid because a lot in the dyers about all the brief moments wherever saying we paid for this. I mean people are worried about. I think about that. Even that we buy marketing. Get back i could feel a little about shackled out and publicly rebukes and then privately visit him suggestions privately pulled him aside and threatened to shoot him if he wants action and chipping ever crossed him again after suspect bits of truth in that but it was an amazing opportunity to be on this a gain. And the diary's entries. Afterwards and and the books all sing praises about how amazing was as a carpenter but but shackleton never forgave him. Any time actually says i can never forgive him for what he did. He saw it as his big one of his biggest. The biggest wrecked and at the end. Most of the men were given what we called medal for their survival and cheap in spite of all the done didn't get the antarctic medal. That was one that just didn't get a shackleton's a real risk. Wow interesting. I didn't know that that's super interesting. Can we also talk about the drake's passage. I've in a tour tour kind of ship but nothing that can compare to what i'm sure you and obviously what they've been through We we went through like a category ten storm. It was Sixty mph winds and thirty thirty foot waves and it was pretty. It was pretty scary. So yeah i'm curious to hear your take on this on the drake's passage scared about shorter few years. That was enough for me very basis. Fantastical sailors citing by below forty degrees as noah below. Fifty degrees. there is. No god is operatives. Because it's wild. I mean it's fees. it's it's weather. The westerly winds us was sent. These powerful winds are blowing around antarctica almost continuously and viewers if you call it a furious fifties and it's basically because the the continent surrounded by ocean almost no land tool to stop the the winds picking up speed and momentum and so as it was about forty percent faster stronger than they are in their equivalents in the northern hemisphere really powerful. But there's one point at which for land pinches in the so called drake passages. It's between South american antarctic peninsula over the finger coming up from the antarctic and and they're the oceans are really hemmed and the wings. Turn what what might what might be a wild ocean something that the ten pest almost all the time it it just you just don't know what you're gonna find. But of course shackleton's they get to elephant island sixty miles from whether break off his backwards and forwards dehydrated near frozen. They've also they've had favor killer whales chasing after them a loose sight and contact one another. We finally get onto this island. Which is i mean. I think it was like one hundred years. Before since anyone that ever attempted to land with no natural landing places and shackleton just realizing says no charts anyone's gonna find them there on the edge of the known world. They know vet. Some whalers and sealers are being frugal. But they're not gonna go through has no base or anything be anywhere anyway. We're going to get help and survive is if a ship is brought to them specifically as Shackleton makes that decision. Yes again a small boca james cared and and sailed to south georgia across drake passage. But the problem is into the winds. You're not gonna get across. There is just no chance on a small boat and so shackleton makes a decision that actually south georgia where they left from fifteen months ago is the best chance as i. Eight hundred politics and so they've added another hundred miles and they going into twenty two foot boat which is yeah. I mean that sounds made of wood. Like i can't even imagine i mean twenty two feet made of wood and you know all these waves and everything they could experience men packed in from end to end and there were six of them on there. For how many days. Yeah sixty days and the gauge concealed. It up at fabric to cover over victims six of them in the end for free off and they had to sleep in their had to bail. Water and chip off is and and and of course a cave thing here cast. This is just amazing. When you think about it is tiny dot at the end of the peninsula. They're going to another tiny dot in the south atlantic. Eight hundred miles away and if they miss it they go. No one will ever know what happened to the place. Expeditions where people don that we're just disappeared and of course it's this wild windiest ocean the world. You it. it's cloudy most of the time. Because you've got is amazing. Low pressure since coming through and he still manages to navigate them to the south georgia foodies. Storms wave sniffing up as extraordinaire out of seamanship to save them and meanwhile they're being buffeted by winds will add this. This amazing met huge. Wave nearly destroys them. And it's just incredible but they actually mentioned as an amazing janet raw chris. I want to know more about your story and your journey to end arctic. What inspired you to want to go to the continent. And what was the mission. While i've been lucky. I've been done to be taught about seven times kassian and scientists so fortunate my in my job is just amazing to be able to privilege to be dad there. What we're trying to do is actually better handle of of of where the planet is heading. Antarctica is a huge player in the global climate system. One of the big questions has to be about how it will respond to future. Climate change world is warming renova more carbon atmosphere warming a planet but there are feedbacks in the system where what's warming changes can be amplified massively. So you don't need change antarctic much massive feedback and sunday. You could be dealing with matt. Huge of global sea level is plus effective but impact hasn't the climate the amazing wildlife dan. They're you know when we talk about the historic record many antarctica. It's only a few decades facet as absolutely it and yet were were going off the scale of anything humanities ever experienced before savvy. I mean shackleton's expeditions. Actually some of the really key data sets because they were down ever so long they actually give us a window into the climate and conditions were logged down and you have to you have to actually go to those other locations to actually get the data you need and extend that observational records so that you can actually get inside to was happening down there and what might happen in the future and Several years ago we did take an expedition down the privately. Funded one to actually explain what was happening off. East antarctica fervor round south of australia to actually explore. What obama was doing it was privately funded but were we were down there. We.
"turney" Discussed on Against The Odds
"Episodes. We've told the story of two different expeditions on the antarctic continent ernest. Shackleton's endurance expedition and henry journey to try and reach the south pole today. We're talking to chris. Turney a scientist explorer and the author of nineteen twelve the year. The world discovered antarctica. His not only read pretty much everything written by shackleton and his crew but he's also been to antarctica. His book iced in is his own harrowing story about when his scientific ship was trapped on the ice in antarctica. Chris's also the director of the earth and sustainability science research center at the university of new south wales in sydney australia. Chris i'm so excited to talk to you today. Always great to speak in jail. The enjoyed series. I've been so fascinated with this story and learning about ernest shackleton and what he went through not just on the endurance but has two missions before and you are one of the experts. I wanna talk to you about your own adventures on the ice. Which is so crazy but i i want to know more about shackleton. You know so much about his expeditions. When did you first hear of ernest shackleton. And what interested you about him. All the coughing shackleton me with really started. When i was a child and i think many people it was seeing being credible photos from the expedition and those one i remember to take the richer stood out and it was his extraordinary image of enjoy words locked up in the is against the pitch dark and that freezing winter night just so the defiant against the is and it was a photo take by frank hurley and he just captured the whole rage of amazing emotions. Being done without even having been in of the danger sense of isolation and as a as a young boy. I was just i wild. What is that. it's a place so far away an unknown when you're a kid you're like wow someday. I hope to get to antarctica experience. This beauty. this intensity. I think catches it so much for so many of us you know we'd never been that most was begin and and yet you could be foodies. Incredible photos raising. I love that. I think the story of the endurance is probably one of the most heroic against the odd stories in history How many days was he out there on the ice. You could not make up you really good. It was just amazing to think they were actually trapped in the is for four hundred fifty two days Oh wow that's just extra fifteen months two christmases in the office. At what level. That sounds hiring the right but just try to imagine. What about was i you a guy that was. That was off the map. That was the warden equivalent space travel if you open atmosphere. Schober century ago by the fed was seven. Atmosphere was just blank. It's like a junk. Just it's unexplored megyn. No one's going to come and get you. No one knows where you are. And heavy are out there tracked. I'd really just completely related to one another to get home safe. And you find out at that point whether you work well with others or whether you don't there's no oh so and so's not behaving themselves you completely reliant on decisions of a major liking amount for you and a half two years before the events take place and of course for shackleton that that that selection of a man was so important and it was. It was directed. Huge buys experiences antarctic with two. I've editions those experiences about world. So the people get together. It's a bit of a dark art. You know about how people will get together. How cope with one another range of skills and shackleton just lost to it at a putting these teams together Yeah he seemed to be such a calm and positive Leader which is it says so much truly about on leading such an expedition. Can you talk about those first. Two what do you think he learned. Well i would've caving here is a factor actually and you've got to be positive even even today. You don't have to be trapped in your to get a sense of at hitting people who are always negative. It's poisoned by you. Can't have those people in your head and when you're in a dangerous situation. The implication minal something might be delayed is enough to put some people that risk so having people who can keep one enough or entertained. The comedians for serious people be organizes. that's wrestling credible. Mix to bring together with an all the skills that you need to actually survive down there as well. Let's talk about the heroic age of exploration. When was that and what. What does it mean. It's so hard to imagine because we open atmosphere ninety. I touch quebec satellite images. You can these beautiful movies and at one level. It seems real enclosed but it seems so alien but every century ago there was very little known about and There were arguments about whether it was one continent wasn't even content tools and so in the late nineteenth century. These expedition started coming down. They were combination governments or just compete eccentrics who just decided they were gonna go down and try to make sense of what was down there. And they begin a name for himself claiming the line for their country Find out scientific. What white man scientifically and i and shackleton was one of these groups would be amazing with scott. We'd be amazing. Amundsen this wealth in the region explores more from australia. Nobu shoe as even japan always amazing people who went down by twenty thirty year period and they knew each other or knew of each other. It was an amazing time. Just it's reading moment in history so something happens and half a dozen characters history know each other and then it's just a once in ever opportunity and nothing happens together and they were all going down there trying to find out what this place was books. Often that we get support from carmax. These days there are plenty of reasons to sell your car. 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"turney" Discussed on Extraterrestrial
"Now i'm not here to tell you what to believe to be honest. I don't even know what i believe myself. As i said when it comes to eighteen pates there are lots of questions that remain unanswered. But that's the thing about unsolved missing person cases that everyone talks about the open ended nece. Why ataur why did the media chose him. Press connections nice photos. A slow news cycle. Lock his age his skin colour the fear historian installs fear cells and on. Its face. a ton story is terrifyingly simple and innocent child leaves for school and is never seen again. It really feels like he just vanished into thin air. What i can tell you is. I chose a ton story because of the role the media plays i know firsthand. How important getting a story out there can be in a missing person case. The attention payed avon's case brought about so much good but it also exploited a families trauma in threatened to tear them apart more than three decades after eight tonnes disappearance pizzas were hanging signs on their front door begging to be left alone and on a larger scale the coverage avon's case received effectively shattered an entire countries trust for millions of americans carrying about what happened. A ton meant that the same thing could happen to any child anywhere at any time. The words stranger danger suddenly entered the american lexicon. Neighbors locked their doors. The beginning of helicopter parenting took root but children didn't start going missing in nineteen seventy nine. The country just started to care for me the story of eighteen pates is a reminder that how i tell the stories of the missing matters because at the center of all of them are real. People from all walks of life dropped in impossible circumstances. They deserve their stories to be told with nuance and empathy. They rarely have clean endings. But no two cases can be considered the same and if we keep talking about them. The.
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"Something. And i some somebody just choking. When stroking green the year eight on missing hernandez was nineteen years old. He worked as a stock boy for a bodega near the pizzas apartment. In the same confession hernandez tells officials. He lured a ton into the bodega basement with the promise of a soda. As you heard he tells them he choked to death for reasons. He doesn't understand. He placed avon's body in a plastic bag then a box before abandoning the box about a block. And a half away amid a pile of trash near one hundred thirteen thompson street before hernandez leave the prosecutor's office and official hands him avon's picture. He apparently has a hard time looking at it at first but he later writes a short confession on the back. Something to the effect of. I killed him or i strangled him five years later jury convicts hernandez of the second degree murder and first degree abduction of ton. Pates stampedes takes the stand to address pedro hernandez himself saying after all these years. We finally know what dark secret you had locked in your heart. You threw him in the garbage. You are the monster in your nightmares. The god you pray to will never forgive you.
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"Get that one. Call that will finally breakthrough all the noise and then it happens. It's up timber. Nineteen eighty eight nine years and three months since avon's disappearance. The voice on the other end of the line belongs to the assistant. Us attorney for the southern district of new york. Stewart grub wa. He is promising news that stanford here in person. It's about an old suspect. An name stan has not forgotten. Jose ramos six years earlier. Police searched a drainage tunnel in the bronx after two boys claimed romo's tried to learn them inside in the darkness officials found a makeshift home with piles of trash porn and an inflatable sex doll. The most chilling discovery was a stack photographs all underage children all male. All under ten many with blonde hair and blue eyes from appeared with a few of the kids cheek-to-cheek smiling for the camera. One of the boys looks like a face. Officers had seen many times before he could pass for a slightly older a ton who at the time just so happen to have been missing for three years during questioning. Police learned to pieces of information that made ramos a suspect. And avon's case i on the day eight on disappeared. Romo's was living in alphabet city only about a mile and a half away from soho and second romo's had a connection to the pates family. The pizzas hired a friend of his to walk their kids home from school. During a recent bus strike in the end julian stanford police. The picture found was not a ton though. The lead investigator walked away. Certain that ramos was somehow involved in avon's disappearance but the reality was nobody could prove it. Romo's insisted that he had never met ton pates in his life and for years the police found no evidence to claim otherwise. No crime scene no witnesses no body. Just a hunch. Now six years later regattas at stand down and tells him that ramos made a confession that could finally connect him to ataur. The story goes like this may nineteen seventy-nine. A boy around the age of six was playing with a tennis ball in washington square park about a ten minute walk from the pizza. Home in soho. The boy had blond hair. Lou is and shoes with a bright stripe on them. Ramos approached. Him asked him if he'd like to go back to his apartment after the boy said yes they did for almost wanted to sexually assaults him tried to even with the voice stop the abuse before it could begin so ramos gave him apple juice and they took a cab back to soho together. Once they arrived the boy wanted to see his aunt who lived in washington heights so rama's walked him to sixth avenue. He put him on a train heading uptown. And that's the last romo sabra boy until he saw a picture of missing kit on television day or two later who he was. Ninety percent sure was the same boy from the park. I can't imagine what it felt like for. Stand to hear that story. But i imagine it hurts even worse when he finds out the confession won't hold water in a court of law as tangible as it feels rama's only admitted to spending an afternoon with a boy. He intended to rape but set free. A boy who he was only ninety percent sure was eight on as a result the first time jose ramos sees the inside of a jail cell. It's not for any crime related to daytime pates in nineteen ninety a judge convicts ramos of sexually molesting an eight year old pennsylvania boy confirming he is a man capable of monstrous actions twice a year forever year romo spends in jail. Stand sends a message to rama. Sasol he types. The words on the back of old copies of avon's old missing person posters. What did you do to my little boy. He never gets response by nineteen ninety nine. Julie is past seeking justice but stands not as the new york. Post publishes a retrospective under the headline eighteen pizzas. Fate still a mystery. Twenty years later stan approaches his wife with a proposition. What if they ask a judge to formally declare their son dead if they can't have their son back and all at least allow them to pursue a civil lawsuit against rama's a jury won't have to find him guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. A judge can hold him liable based on a preponderance of evidence in two thousand one. The judge signs the death certificate three years later. The civil suit goes to trial or the new york. Supreme court finds jose ramos liable for the wrongful death and abduction of a ton paths a judge orders ramos to pay the paces two million dollars and emotional damages. Romo's doesn't have the money so the pizzas never collect on the debt but it's a symbolic victory and for the next eight years it passes as an ending the closest thing to closure the pizzas will get then in two thousand twelve. The police receive a tip about a man whose name has never come up before. Pedro is according to the informant..
"turney" Discussed on Extraterrestrial
"One of the most powerful men in the world releases the following statement. I ronald reagan. President of the united states of america do hereby proclaim may twenty fifth nineteen eighty-three as missing children day. I urge every american family to take the proper precautions to protect their children. The proclamation leads tween national wave of interest in missing children cases. Five years after eight disappearance. His portrait starts appearing on milk cartons across the country underneath the word missing. It's the same portrait from the original fires on the same cartons. A ton used to pour every morning to make his chocolate milk shortly after the new york city. Police foundation puts his face on an electronic billboard in times square in time. Eight on enters the background of pictures taken by strangers from all around the world leader to tucked away into their family photo albums by nineteen eighty five. Most americans have seen avon's phase. The attention is heartening. But at the end of the day julian stan or no closer to finding their son. And there's a problem and photos avon will always be six years old but if he's alive he's twelve now. He spent more years without his family than with them. And if they're being completely honest jillian. Stan don't know what their son looks like any more any day. Now they could pass them on the street.
"turney" Discussed on Extraterrestrial
"Meanwhile stampedes is sitting in a photo studio uptown on his lunch. Break eating a cheeseburger before he finishes a call comes in. It's julie she tells him avon's missing. She's already called the police. Stan cuts is shift short and heads home. But before finishing his burger in all likelihood eighteen will turn up before he gets off the train. In soho. But then stan gets off. The train arrives home and avon's still not there he talks to. The police goes to his dark room pulls a proof sheet with thirty-six tiny photos on it from an old shoot with a ton. He shows the pictures to strangers at the local bodega the playground. The market nearby stores avon never turns up by nightfall. The nypd launches a full scale search effort complete with one hundred police officers and helicopters by one fifteen. Am the bloodhounds are brought in the pages. Apartment is a blur of uniforms and activity. Julian stanfield like they've entered alternate reality or a spontaneous. Glitch has raised all traces of their son and to make matters worse. They're being blamed for it. I there's questions from police any enemies. Why do you have so many photos of your son. Why is his shirt off in this one. Did he have any reason to run away. Which really means did you give him a reason to run away. The questions are routine but knowing that doesn't make answering them any easier their sons gone. They don't know what happened. And every uniformed officer in their apartment knows they're working on a timeline of exponential decay with every passing hour the likelihood of finding a missing child avon's age alive punches closer and closer to zero. It's past the twenty four hour mark when a friend asked stan. Have you thought about press. The friend has connections at the city hall press office. He'd be happy to pull in favors. Jillian steiner hesitant. Their apartment has already turned into investigation headquarters. They're not sure if they can handle an onslaught of reporters until an officer working. The case tells stan. I think you should do it. If your friend knows people personally you might be able to hold onto a little control. So stan gives the go-ahead with one caveat. Just ask them to be careful with julie. A forty eight hours after his disappearance. Avon's face is plastered all over the city on missing person posters in the tabloids in the sunday edition of the new york times the accompanying portraits taken by stan shows avon's blue eyes infectious smile and mop of dirty blond hair in high resolution. The photos do more than capture people's attention. They drive leads. Tips come pouring into hotlines over the next year officials chase countless tips. But i'm not going to see. I know they go nowhere. New york is a racially diverse. Place the pizzas are jewish. And they lived in a community with a sizable queer population. There are too many red herrings rooted in desperation and bigotry so instead of following the misguided pathways. I want to put you in julie in stand shoes for a bit two months after your son's disappearance as story becomes national news. You still top. Investigators list of suspects in official congressional records politicians deliver calls to action about bringing him home reporters. Keep knocking on your door. A whole you want is your son back so you keep answering their questions even as one asks you. Would you mind working up a few tears for me now. So i don't have to come back and bother you again when they find the body. Then there's the unsolicited comments from strangers. How terrible you must feel especially since it was all your fault the gossip about whether you murdered your child. The calls to tip winds with a young boys voice on the other end pleading desperately for his father's help calls that turn out to be cruel pranks seven months. After your son's disappearance. You attend a family christmas party. In massachusetts it's filled with people who share your blood but stumble over their words as they talk to you too afraid to ruin the holiday conversation only a race a ton from the family tree you avoid all conversations of moving on even if you wanted to there are too many reminders everywhere you and your son have entered the american zeitgeist and there's no coming back from it. Even as the missing posters turned still missing posters. And the we miss you tom. Graffiti on the corner bodega fades from prolonged exposure to the elements. Every time you smile and public the glares of strangers remind you that choi doesn't belong to you anymore and there is you deserve to have your daycare. Business go under. You can't be trusted with kids. And yet you still have two other children ones. You can reach out and touch who are neither dead nor waiting to be found and you feel guilty for spending all your time on what's most likely a lost cause but then and march nineteen eighty. You hear a breaking news story about a boy named stephen steiner found alive after being missing for seven years it renews a glimmer of hope and makes your mind spiral with questions. Like what if avon against all odds is still out there to anti needs me or worse. What if he thinks. I'm not trying my hardest to find him or worse. What if i'm not that's the thing about unsolved missing person cases. Everyone talks about isn't it. The open ended nass even when you think you. Now you just don't know until there's a body to welcome home or to berry in a press conference days before the first anniversary of avon's disappearance stampedes talks about the not knowing as a psychological wound that will never heal. Julia paints compares it to a fate worse than death but tired of being both victims and victimized. They start using the platform. That's been thrusted on them to talk about necessary reforms. They tell schools need to let parents know when their child doesn't show up. Law enforcement needs to actually update their databases as stan learns. The fbi keeps better records of stolen license plates than they do missing children. They appear on talk shows with parents of other missing kids. They combined forces and together. They catch the attention of american. Legislators three years after avon's disappearance the pages efforts start to pay off on a national scale. The missing children's assistance act establishes federal grant programs to help fund state and local law enforcement looking for missing children the national center for missing and exploited children becomes fully operational and the day before the fourth anniversary of avon's disappearance.
"turney" Discussed on Extraterrestrial
"May twenty eighth nineteen seventy-nine arrives during a slow news cycle. It's the friday before memorial day. Weekend and soho. Julian stampedes have a lot to do. They've made plans to visit their neighbours. Home upstate odd. They haven't packed stanford tog river. He worked late last night on a photo shoot. So as the alarm goes off julia. Lets him keep sleeping. She'll be the one to wake up the kids and get them ready things. Start slowly. julie's. Two year old son ari a friend stay. The night her eight-year-old daughter shira is most likely laying in bed dreaming of ways to get out of school but eight on her middle child shoots out of bed ready to start his day for the past year. Eight been asking if he can walk to the bus stop alone and he finally has the green light for the most part. Julian stand encouraged their kids. To be self reliant. Julia runs a daycare out of their apartment. Eight on making his own breakfast every morning buys her much needed. Time to prepare for her clients. Arrivals sure walking. The streets of new york alone at six is not the same thing as making toast chocolate milk but according to avon plenty of his friends do it all the time. The bus stops not far. Just two blocks at the corner of west broadway and prince street even with his little legs. The trip shouldn't take more than five minutes. Nobody remembers how or when they agreed that. Today would be the day but julian stan decided it would ultimately be good for a ton to help. Build his competence. Avon might be adventurous. But he's also easily scared when at-at arrives in the kitchen on the morning of may twenty fifth. He feels like a different kid. He's fully dressed and wide eyed wearing a tee shirt blue pants and a blue corduroy jacket and light blue racing sneakers with florescent green. Lightning bolts running down the sides to top it all off. He has a signature piece on a pilot's cap. He bought from a yard sale himself. He loves it so much. He occasionally wears it to bed. Big block letters spell out future flight captain above the bram after breakfast. He tosses already packed lunch into a blue tote bag painted with white elephants and slings it over his shoulder. He's almost ready to leave. When he remembers a friendly repairman gave him a dollar yesterday and he wants to use it to buy a soda from the corner. Bodega in a flash. He's back dollar and hand excitedly waiting to leave when it's time to go eight on bounds down the three flights of stairs ahead of julie and stops at the front door of their building. He's only three foot four so we can't reach the handle. He needs his mother to open it for him. Outside the skies overcast last minute reservations. Bobble up inside julie. But she knows how much avon wants to overcome this milestone before first grades over. And there's only so many days left time is ticking. It's fine mom. I can do it a says. It's adm the buses leaving and ten minutes. Julie tells him to come home right after school to help pack for the weekend trip after kissing her son goodbye. Julie watches his small frame. Take careful steps. Like he's counting each pace looking up. She can see parents and other kids already gathering at the bus. Stop up ahead. It's only five hundred feet or so away. She lingers until he gets about halfway there but she doesn't watch him enter the bodega ari and his playmate or upstairs unattended and she still needs to prepare for a day of childcare so she steps back inside locks the front door and climbs the three flights of stairs to her apartment by the time she's in the shower and the water washes over her face. She figures eight on must have already boarded the bus. If something had happened one of the other parents would have called. If he doesn't show up to school teacher will call. There's no reason to worry. Really what could happen to her. Six year old son in the span of ten minutes for julie pates. That answer won't come for at least another thirty years. It's three thirty. Pm and nobody has called. No parents no teachers which means eight on solo adventure must have gone off without a hitch but for some reason he's not home yet. Julie sticks her head out of the window to check if he's walking down prince st when she doesn't see him she calls karen altman a friend and neighbor who was supposed to pick avon up for the bus that day along with her own daughter chelsea. It wouldn't be unusual if he went over to their house for a bit. But karen tells julie no eight onslaught over. She hasn't seen him. Karen ashe chelsea where. Tom went after the final bell and from the other end.
"turney" Discussed on Extraterrestrial
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Sarah Turney of 'Voices for Justice' on Ethics in True Crime Podcasting
"It was groups gathering to watch people burned at the stake during the salem witch trials or millions of people watching making a murderer on net flicks. We're drawn to these stories and everyone has their own reasons. Why maybe it's pure curiosity. Maybe you want to learn something from these experiences. You can avoid them yourself. Maybe one help or maybe you just how big this genre is and want to cash in. I'm not saying. I think it's right or ethical but this is and has been our reality for centuries we may think we've evolved past it but we really haven't now believe it or not. I really don't care about your intentions in this space because after trying to bet trying my best to convert people away from the dark side if you will. I learned the intentions are not something i can change if you can hear my story if you can see other families of victims on the internet begging for help and you don't care that something inside of you that i will not be able to change today but the thing with intentions is you may feel like they're this deep dark secret inside of you but they will come to the surface so no matter your intentions with true crime content. You you make just remember that a good deal of your audience will most likely see right through your work to those intentions in. My advice is to respect your audience by being honest with them. Are you doing tour for a show. Just you can buy a new car awesome. Let your audience know that. I bet most of them will be thrilled for you. What they will be thrilled about is if you say that you're in this to help the victims and the families but then you only help yourself and before you know it. You're on instagram with your new. Bmw they're gonna see right through that now. A great way to avoid all this headache is to actually just have good intentions with your work. That doesn't mean you have to work yourself to the bone and donate every dollar to charity. That's not what i'm saying. What i'm saying is that if you don't have good intentions in this space be ready for a lot of people to call you out on
Why Do You Want to Make a True Crime Podcast? With Sarah Turney of 'Voices for Justice'
"Much of ethics in true crime. Podcasting comes down to your intentions. Why do you wanna make a true crime. Podcast over every other genre of podcast out there. This definitely isn't the easiest john to be successful in its saturated discuss horrible events. And if you care about doing good research it's extremely tedious. This is hard work. So why make. True crime podcast. Why don't make a podcast about playing dungeons and dragons with your friends or podcasts. Brooke crocheting or nutrition or whatever. It might be what drew you to this genre. I imagine that the answer for a lot of you is you wanna help. You want to at least be a small part of getting justice for someone raising awareness about a certain topic or maybe just making the world a less crap you plays but if your intentions in this jon rao are not based rendering something. Good just remember that your intentions will dry will drive you towards whoa towards what you want whether you like it or not. So if you're in this genre for money or fame you will most likely make decisions. Based on that intention you might lead your episodes with the most salacious information about a case. Knowing in the back of your mind goes nowhere that in the end the bloodstain on the suspect shirt that you were leading with is actually just animal blood but you lead with it anyway because you know it'll hook people into that episode and ultimately help with downloads now honestly i don't fault people for this. I mean i don't like it. Perverted consume that type of drew. Crime crime content. But whether or not i like it or anyone else likes it. True crime is a form of entertainment. It always has been. You're probably a little expected error. Surprised that i said that but it is it. This is a form of entertainment and we can't get around
Steve Bannon on How Trump Is a Figure of Divine Provenance
"At most people know you if know you from war room and so many people Listen and watch it but they would know you obviously from the trump administration in my mind. You were one of a handful of people tiny handful there really seemed to understand the cultural import of what trump represented talk about that just for a moment because that's the bigger issue and that's why what happened. In the united states it was a global phenomenon. Not many people were talking about the global phenomenon. That happened you were were one of the few. Yeah look. i've been working on this since the since the financial crisis of two thousand eight. When i kind of you became a filmmaker got gotta walk away from the banking and finance business off but the way i think the most the best way to think about it is kind of from your writings particularly your book on bond popular. Just one of my favorite books in your current books divine. Providence is active in our lives and our world affairs in you. Meet these providential characters and donald trump was fathered entry. I mean he kind of galvanized in a person in a leader. Many of the undercurrents that have been going on this country particularly this populism this economic nationals understanding that this globalisation was more than just economic. There was something deeply against the christian western Against all spiritual endeavors right and. I think we're saying that. I think you're seeing now in this kind of the ball. Face marxism materialism anti spiritualism of this global elite. Right in in retaliation of how they wanted force are there. Raina terror You're seeing so. I think that very early on i was fortunate enough. You'll my education were at work. The see trends then to be andrew breitbart arguer than andrew passed away. I kinda ran the site. The years was really a big supporter of trump's early on back at thirteen and fourteen. Because i saw him. As a oculus leader there was going to go against traditional controlled opposition republicanism and now in the fight for our lives in the fight for their. It's everything we've been talking about. What a four turney is in a fight for the country but the important things trump is. He is a providential figure he was. I think we only want through the intercession of divine providence. In sixteen
Rick Pitino is back in the NCAA Tournament – with the Iona Gaels
"College. Basketball is where we start guys. Oregon state the fifth st seed with an improbable run in the pac twelve. Thirty as they roll in a win the conference championship game for the first time. Ever in program mystery this time against colorado seventy to sixty eight worry lt shea. The big man for the beavers winning the pac twelve tournament. Mvp josh pastor and his infamous face. Shield leading georgia tech to its first. Acc tournament championships title since nineteen ninety three after emasculating. Florida state eighty to seventy five. Rick pitino guiding iona to the ncaa turney winning the metro. Atlantic athletic conference tournaments and his gaels did not play a game from december. Twenty third all the way through february twelfth because of covid nineteen flare ups.
Lawyer Gets Stuck With Cat Filter During Virtual Court Case
"Flos and order. Texas lawyer was turned into a ca- turney by a pesky zoom filter during a virtual court hearing well and it left other participants on the call. Absolutely cracking up as the judge tried to walk him through that filter. Fix i'm here live. I'm not a cat said confused. Lawyer rod parton yuling like a loss tabby and a brief video clip of the accidental species swap though his zoom panel said otherwise portraying him as an durable blue eyed kitten. Okay now i am still taking baby steps as far as soon goes. I think i've had one zoom meeting. And i'm not even i mean it was just enough to get through that zoom meeting without doing anything that was well Totally just bonkers. I have no idea how to even work the filters. But i think the cautionary tale is this. Your kids do and apparently that's exactly what happened but to see this attorney as it was it. Was this cute. Little kitty kitty. He'd be guys and every time the attorney would talk. Of course the kittens mouth would move. Its welcome to the new normal forty. Two second clip was tweeted. Tuesday night by judge roy ferguson. Along with some well. Timely and helpful tech advice wrote ferguson of texas three hundred and ninety fourth judicial district court. Important zoomed tip all in caps if a child has used your computer prior to your using it for a court hearing before you join a virtual hearing you might wanna check the zoom video options to be sure the filters are off. I wouldn't even know where to be gained. I mean where would you be. I have no clue when it comes to filters just seems to me that well. That's an accident waiting to happen.
Lawyer: Soldier charged in Rockford shooting may have PTSD
"An attorney for the U. S. army special forces sergeant accused of killing three people at an Illinois bowling alley this past weekend says her client may suffer from PTSD Winnebago county state's attorney J. Hanley says thirty seven year old Duke Webb who had just completed a fourth tour of duty in Afghanistan has admitted to the shooting rampage inside a bowling alley that left three people dead a fourteen year old male was shot in the face he is alive but hospitalized in critical condition sixty five year old Thomas first half was on the first floor when the defendant began shooting first a first test began running toward the stairs when the defendant shot him in the torso he tells W. LS TV that victim died as did two other men but Webster Turney says he'll undergo a mental health evaluation suggesting he suffers from post traumatic stress disorder Webb is assigned to Eglin Air Force base in Florida and was visiting family in the Rockford Illinois area I'm Jackie Quinn
"turney" Discussed on True Consequences
"But the attorney general has already started talking to me so I think the biggest thing. I need right now. Is getting jacob story that that's where i am somewhat stuck in. That's that's the most important thing right now is making people aware of what's happening in. So you know for me with this podcast. Jacob's death was a guidepost in my life in the state of new mexico. In the way that i frame things and what i mean by that is that thirty three years ago. Jacob was murdered as a result of child abuse. And nothing happened. Well here we are now. This continues to happen over and over and over again in the state of new mexico. There are so many kids who are abused and forgotten. And i want to tell all of their stories and so if you can help me get jacob story out there that would be worth way more than you can imagine at this point because for so long the prosecutors have hidden behind the statute of limitations. They've hidden behind The idea that the case may not be winnable for them so politically. it doesn't make sense to prosecute it. And i don't want them to be able to hide anymore. I want this out there so that everybody knows what's happening so that they have nowhere to turn except for the right way. Absolutely i mean. Let's not pretend that media exposure doesn't put pressure on these people absolutely does they don't wanna look stupid. They don't wanna look incompetent. They don't wanna look like they don't care but nobody knows if nobody's talking about it like got that media pressure i think is worth lost in this case. Yes and i don't want to be forgotten. Yeah horse and he won't be eric. We're gonna make sure that he's not he absolutely will be forgotten between crime. I will personally ensure eric that he will be forgotten. And you know that you know that. I would do absolutely anything for you and jakup and i promise you won't be forgotten. I am pretty sure all these wonderful people in here right now will make sure about as well So let me speak for eric. When he's a little choked up but Please go call his podcasts consequences. he has three amazing episodes. That talk about his brother dig up. I cannot tell you the emotions. I felt when i was listening to your interview with your mom. Eric i like. I'm literally getting choked up right now. It was so emotional and wonderful that you had to stop it at one point because it was getting so emotional to have her on your side like that into be so raw and open was amazing. And i think you already know that i'm your mom's biggest fan like i will never stop standing your mom Listen to those episodes. They're absolutely amazing and It goes into so much depth and detail in places for justice. You you both very much. A with experts Real witness testimony. And you go off paperwork. And i respect you so much for that end. Just know that we're never gonna forget thank you. That means so much to me. Of course on where can everybody finds you like. He's on tiktok. You guys though Overhead go follow his stick. Yeah i feel like such a grandpa and tiktok over the age twenty. One feels like old. I yeah i'm going to talk. I'm on social media. I'm on twitter at cons pod Facebook and instagramat consequences pod. I have a website. Consequences dot com. And my podcast is in every podcasts player. that you can find And if it isn't let me know..
"turney" Discussed on Vamily Show
"Kids, who grow up with a parent with alcoholism the sun, and the store his father has untreated alcoholism but he does love his son he stayed in raised them as a single parent when when the mother the mother left when the boy was too. It's a complicated father son relationship but also there's a soul mate relationship in here and then the bond of the friendships, but it's also a murder mystery as well. Awesome. and. Keough. Adventures. In Kito said thank you very much for your service and Papa drew's RV wants know. What did you do in the Navy when you were there? I can't go into the exact details I did a lot of. A Lotta classified information I'll just say I. I'll say I did administrative work but the details of what I did you couldn't get in through the. Area was also stationed in a why I did I was responsible for like background checks I saw information on Berry senior people in and out of the military. So I'll just leave it there but but I will say administrative In and stop there with that. But I I love I love to be in the navy. It was like everybody was your brother and your sister, and that's how the bootcamp trained as you got to look out for each other and I did I love being in service. IT'S A. It's a like a brother and sister go there and you did a work or. for the idea. So are any. Somebody said are charging based on. You are any characters in your book do any their personalities stories don't for people that you've met through all these different things that you do. You know what I would imagine that I don't want portion some of them are like based on different people in my family. I would imagine I've taken parts of people, but I haven't done what think Stephen King did this read a newspaper article and decided that would be great to create a story around that. I can't think beyond Porsche where's based loosely on members of my family where I saw somebody and I thought other than molecules. That story. To life story about those little kids who were streak is loosely based molecules in part on that but other than that I haven't. Taken a care and also be Kinda Costas about that. Much. You know what? This is a lot of people don't made I noticed would you become really successful? People. Say This the lawsuits come if your if your book your movie or your record or your your youtube or videos show is taken off nobody really cares they don't really bother you but if you start making millions and millions and Like. You don't hear entertainers talk about this, but you could get five or ten lawsuits year and you have to deal with them. So I'm always always calls his I don't WanNa put it too much..
"turney" Discussed on Vamily Show
"Very Awesome family show season two episode nineteen with Denise. Turney with me today and you're author of numerous books. and. I kind of wanted to know Is there any characters out of your vote? The way that you that I watched you read like this exits, your book on Your Day. Is there any of your character is. Really attached you or any of that you would either WanNa meet in real life or not relied. Lah I gotTa tell you that all the years I've been writing and doing radio probably over ten years. That's the first time I've been asked that question ever a Lotta intervenes. That question. I try to do that. So I have to do that route that. Okay. I have had someone who knows me we one of my books I love has many faces and tell me you're rob him. So that was back then I wrote that book years ago and I said you don't thinking no, I'm not. But then when I reread it, I did see parts of it that reminded me of myself from that character but I don't as myself see myself in any. Of the characters I think is impossible as any artist two completely separate yourself from your work because they're works coming from you if I kick me a character and my any of my books, I think the one character I would meet will be Mulligan and she's in Long walk-ups. She's a little orphan girl she's orphaned is six years old and she goes on to become Africa's first woman president. I would. If I've met somebody I would want to meet her just for her carriage. To get through what she did go on to fulfill her destiny. Yeah. That's. Amazing. Story of. To. Come up with and I've tried to write. A fiction story before I like longer when not like just one school that you right you know. Whoever right a longer one and what I, what I started having trouble with and I wanna know how you do..
Officials battle online misinformation along with wildfires
"Are these historically large wildfires continue to rage out west fifteen people have already died a whopping four million acres already devastated across California as well as Oregon where you can see right here why the mayor there declared a state of emergency, the governor also publicly pleading. For the trump administration to support its governmental emergency response officials on the ground, say Donald trump failing them through fashion. Some critics compare his sort of public denial of even admitting what's going on with the wildfires that posture to of course, is deceitful approach to cove it. Who reports today are the things are even worse than all of that because right wing conspiracy theories supported publicly by Donald, trump are leading to dangerous activity. Again, we're living in a time where misinformation can be dangerous to your health and officials are warning. They're getting flooded with false phone calls fanned by Q. Not which incorrectly try to blame the fires on trump's perceived opponents. Translation what happens on facebook doesn't always stay on facebook a real world emergency political propaganda is making it harder for these firefighters to get the real information warnings they need as they go out and do their work and risk their lives. That's why sheriff's departments are pleading with people with messages like this just stop spreading rumors stop calling nine one one with political pranks. They say it has now gotten to the point where it is hampering their bandwidth to respond to the fires in real emergencies. It's twenty twenty. So sometimes, we have to state the obvious around here. Do not call nine, one one with Q. Non trumpy fake news propaganda. You do have the right to say whatever you want. Typing it up on the Internet you do not have the right to deceitfully thwart firefighting in the middle of this very real crisis for those calling from the West Coast some of these calls have been traced. If you need to think about it like this. Misinformation is expensive in the house you save could be your own. As mentioned, we're thrilled to have married trump live in the hour but I want to begin with some of our analysts, Jason, Johnson professor of politics at Morgan, State University and Katty Kay Washington anchor for BBC News. Good evening to both you. Evening Jason There's much talk about misinformation and people don't like lying even when it's just verbal if you want to be that specific. But given these twin crises, your view of the cost of this kind of misinformation. Rex It's massive. I'm in California right now and the difficulty the difficulty that local officials are having in managing people when it comes to these wall fires is immense and is partially because accused on, it's partially because the president basically sort of thumbs his nose that these sorts of Issues v rate of destruction that is happening out here. Basically, the size of central park is being burned every other day in northern California Oregon Central Park. Every other day is being burned devastated. varies a haze over the sky on a regular basis at the bottom. Of A pool, you can see ash settling after every single night. So the idea that people are wasting public resources with crazy conspiracy theories because they think that the fires were created by you know five G. or invading Muslims or George Soros doesn't help the fact that there are hundreds of thousands of people were either going to be out of their homes or not able to stay safely in their homes. During the time, we have a pandemic where rescuing people in putting them into shelters is all the more difficult. So yeah, this is propaganda that's Live when trump lies people are dying. Well. Caddy at the White House has often tried to reposition the Cova conversation in the election as well. This hit everywhere. This is global thing. it seems that this week there is a rightful focus and scrutiny on the president's leadership on his honesty on his approach, which is relevant. As, you go into election about who you want to continue to deal with this crisis or do you want to change the commander in chief? Yell the the virus has hit everywhere but my fourteen year old daughter is an online schooling here in Washington. Her friend in France in class. A. Friend in London is in class her friend in China is in plus her friend in Senegal. is in class and a friend in Germany is in class they're all going to school. And the reason they're going to school is because those countries have handled this better. So that's a direct comparison and in a globalised world. Our children here in the United States make no mistake about it that losing out because those other kids are in class going to school at advancing while orchids not advancing. So we're kicking this down to the next generation as well but. We elect leaders to be able to walk and Chew Gum at the same time. It is totally possible that you can give people a facts that you can trust the American people with the facts of something it is at also be inspirational and motivational and lift them up with a plan and show leadership. Those two things are not mutually exclusive and I think that's what the president is mistaking when he says, he didn't want people to panic and so he downplayed the virus. And gatty talk about how that stacks up in a global context that I think is very interesting to remember, and then how people are receiving these messages reporter. Jim Acosta spoke. To some people going to the trump rally take a look. Our about him because there's no. It's a it's a fake pandemic created to destroy the United. States of America. The president said the Bob Woodward there is a virus but corona virus that it is devil that's his opinion. Chatty. Where do you start i? Mean you stop by asking all of our leaders to come out with consistent clear accurate honest messaging when I really felt for Anthony. FAUCI. In that interview because I've interviewed g and he is so careful not to wade into political waters where there's going to be a difference between him and the president because he said that will be the only story and he is trying to get out the public health story doesn't WANNA make it a political story about. A disagreement he clearly feels now he has to set a Mauka. He has to wait into the politics of this and say, no when the President says, we are turning a corner. We're not actually turney. We're in this for the long haul because when the president says, we're turning a corner when he says, we're about to get over this or that is magically going to disappear what happens that guy doesn't wear a mosque when he attends a rally because he thinks it's not there. That's the risk. Door Jason. Trump can say you know he can see the light at the end of the tunnel. All we once it's a train right it's a train coming at us. We are about to head to fall which is flu season. This is a time where you have kids going back to school but you have people who have to shelter in place more because it's cold you can't eat outside and that makes us Much more difficult and I think are the real danger here is that as we recognize that the president is grotesquely incompetent, right easies driven by sort of racial malice and paying off his friends and everything else like that. At the base of all of this, we cannot forget to key things. One that the president is still trying to steal the election with the post office that you still have. Right. Wing Supreme. Courts in Wisconsin right now that are trying to people get absentee ballots. It's you have the president, the Republican Party suing in Iowa to prevent people from getting their absentee ballots that he's still trying to steal the election at the same time that you have literally millions of. Americans. Now, out of work who be out of their homes who are being evicted, which will make it more difficult for them to. Actually vote. So as much as the president is, is a horrible human being and trying to bankrupt this country and pay off his friends and stay in office. He is also doing things isn't competence has disrupted the ability of regular people remove him from office in a democratic way. We can't ever lose sight that because we can't get rid of him everything that's happening. Now we'll be ten times worse by nature.
Tencent Aims to Combine Huya and DouYu
"Who. are absolutely massive bolt turney streaming companies report a monthly active user base about one hundred, fifty, million at different points in the previous year. For comparison twitches monthly active user base is about one hundred and forty million according to report from the media which I'll link below. Now, they're sure to be some crossover between who Dole you, but the two company's separately are bigger than twitch so. Imagine if they were combined well, that's what ten is trying to make happen curly. The company owns about thirty eight percent of both we and doe you. They're the largest shareholder in doe you but don't hold majority voting power for who you own one percent less than the company naval fifty point eight percent majority voting power according to the East sports observers to buy a SEC this proposal. Is a stock for stock merger. The two companies which was don't stop converted into who yes. DOC making the latter, the surviving brand on Monday August seventeenth. Both companies announced they're creating special committees deliberate over the potential merger they brought in independent financial and legal analysts from the most prestigious firms in the world with a deal. This big there any multitude of reasons why it may eventually. Fall apart, but ten cent playing a huge role in both companies. There's a lot of incentive to get a deal done. It's hard to overstate just how massive this deal would be after billy billy swooped in grab the Mandarin Broadcast Rights for League of legends. International events over the next three years. Ten also owns eighteen percent of billy billy by the way this merger seems like we give. Up what was once a three-horse race to fight for the rights to League of legends? Worlds. Really. Highlights. Ten cents, pure scope the biggest meteorites, east sports for the legends international events which was put forth by right games. A company owned entirely by ten cents was bought by billy. Billy. Owned eighteen percent by tencent. But who owned thirty seven percent by tencent and doe you thirty eight percent tencent both bid on the rights as well. Ten is so big that three companies that they have a big stake in are bidding for the rights to broadcast they. Oh. That's wild.
"turney" Discussed on True Crime Fan Club Podcast
"Number One. I don't think we need a body number two. It scares me to look for it without them like unless I'm not some crazy, neutral, third hardy video verge lake document every single thing I think. I mean obviously finalises body I. Don't think that you can review that evidence. I'm afraid of what the leases reaction will be if they don't find it themselves like. This such wildcards. It just scares me and the fact that they won't say Okay Yeah. We'll send one police officer with your search to make sure that everything's cool like. You his spent millions of dollars. I mean I have to imagine. At least hundreds of thousands of dollars in tax dollars over these two men, spending ten years looking for Alyssa and now you're telling you can't send one police officer out there to help me with surge or just sit to observe it. Yeah, just to observe. Wonder if you could hire a off cop to it Ooh, that's a really good you actually I mean yeah, 'cause we hire off duty cops for like security issues at you know well my old workplace or whatever we worked in insurance, Oglesby like an agent to kill this guy, and so he'd be like okay cool. We're GONNA. Need a guy with a gun on site so we would have off-duty. Police officers present and so I wonder if that's a good way to do a loop. I'm happy to pay you your hourly rate. Have you there, so it's something to consider you know I. Don't know that they I don't know if it has to get approval. I was never involved in that process or anything like that, but. They get hired for events, so yeah Mike what point of you, not maybe I need security. Stand here for me. Like extra money I think they usually make time at half. Which I'm happy to pay or whatever yeah, great! That's what I'm saying. Yes. It's definitely something I will do if I have to get there, but I have not given up on getting this traditional prosecution because. So many cases that have been tried in miracle, the county, the same county cases in the without a body and with lot, yes, and in less circumstantial evidence. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot that. I think a reasonable jury would be able to convict your father on. Even if he waved the jury trial and went with an the best part right with the jury trial in China, which is my favorite thing is that they get to ask questions and they get to go and say well. Hey, what about this poke holes in things right? which most traditional juries don't get like in Texas? If that I'd so excited, but They don't like I. Think Florida and Arizona are two states that I know of I? Think for I'm not sure, but Zona for sure I remember when the whole Jodi areas. Thing happened. I was like it. Ask questions about this like what? That's crazy, but. You see the point you know like it makes sense so. It kind of boggles my mind, especially with all of the stuff that you have. From their own evidence. That I guess is all their. Bad that it doesn't. It does not make sense. It does not compute for me like what? Are they mad. You have done their job and in showing you know how these things have been laid out into where it's obvious, or are they thinking like I think there's probably some negative connotation withdrew crime podcasting given how people on both of the aisles are like on on guilty on an not guilty Steven Avery did it Steve didn't do it and so I. Don't know that law enforcement takes us seriously yet. If, you will. But they should I. Mean I would counter that by saying that the detective I'm dejected with Stewart Summer Shoe. interviewed for the missing podcast and was quite. It's beyond their You know in terms of just what I heard on his interview. Comes down to presentation and you know what I mean like that missing was. The podcast doesn't necessarily present my fight with lease kind of ends before that. If you will and they know that I'm GonNa present all this audio of them like I'm. From them, saying it would be used for media, so they know and they have since said that they will never do. Media again was assays centrally. They were like we've done. We think we've done enough. which is casino offer to panels crime con if they would like to come, and they just recused, they refused to everything there like crime coin doesn't seem like the right audience for this case and I right disag-. You're right. Yeah, you're right I. I would be like. What is the good audience for this case? Then please tell me these. Where would you go see the same people who were set to do a seminar called inside the criminal mind for the University of Arizona, the two detectives, going partner with a forensic psychologist on my father's honk as in presents how case like how they suspected it was somebody closer to Eliza than we ever expected and the whole seminars about how my dad probably killed Elissa. And now they're like sorry wrong. Audience I! It just yeah. It makes no sense to me, but. That's really interesting to see because you know you watch these ide- shows and oxygen shows and the detectives are like. You know I've been up at night with this case for the last twenty something years, and it's really disheartening I guess that they. Don't have that same reaction like I said this earlier in my livestream on. Instagram I was like it makes no sense to me that the cops are fighting you yeah, it's like you know what we have a common goal in that's to find justice for Eliza. How ever that comes right? So why do I have to fight you? And why do you have to fight me like? Why aren't we on? We're on the same team. We want the same thing who cares who gets it I. You know, and I will turn this just like you have. You've turned the evidence over to them, and they've kept you in the loop with things and told you stuff so. You know I think that it is just truly. They're trying to save face from themselves and whatever pd you come after me if you want to give up But like they're trying to save face for themselves, and it's really uncharacteristic of what most people think that detectives especially in homicide cases are like yeah, and I mean I think there's a lot of factors like the two gentlemen, the two detectives that were on the case for like ten years I in two thousand seventeen when my father was released. If it were up to them, they would have gone through. But somewhere home it was presented to someone who's absolutely not we're? Yeah, WE'RE UNSURE WAY to win this, so you're not going to move forward and then I think it's developed from there. You know I think that now. The detectives were kind of like okay. Do we look at and all this like? Like you said it's very much. If this goes to court. You know they have to to kind of. People. They have to answer for everything they did, and they didn't do in in. It sucks. I get it. I, get it. You have to answer for why you did absolutely nothing in a missing girls KS with a documented history of us for like seven years. Yeah, so when did the abuse stuff come out because I know that that wasn't really? It was kind of like I mean you have the I think what your cousin who had come to the house and seeing the video of Eliza and things like that? And I'm sure like. I heard how upset he was over the fact that he didn't do something now. Knowing like what's happened I, get it like those were the times when people like child abuse with anything like domestic abuse truly didn't. Report things like that because he didn't want to get involved, you know and I said out loud like when I was listening to this because I. Often Talk to you and your show and I'm like what the Fuck Sarah. Kidding I said out loud like. Are People really scared of Mike? Turney like is this truly a thing.
"turney" Discussed on True Crime Fan Club Podcast
"The very first time I met. You was actually at true crime podcast festival, yes. I didn't I knew you. You were, but I didn't know at the time that you had your own podcast yet and that you were like launching it I think I had only heard of the missing Elissa podcast. And then everybody is like serious. Starting your podcast like we need to support her in rallying. Really forget you. That's what we do. That's so nice to hear. Yeah. I was at podcast for one day at true crime. Oh! Yeah, that's right, yeah! I remember that. I thought I've been listening to your show, so I had. Gotten so backed up on so many bud. Guests because thanks to Cova Ed. I work from home, so it's a little bit different now than being at my job or driving in the car and listening to podcasts. I suffer from that now. But it your. It's boggling my mind like I am so I can't even imagine how you feel right now like it's ridiculous, but I did you bring a drink Yes, what are you drink? It read. The rules don't Judge Drinking Corona. Controvercial Queen. I am drinking so I typically. Trying to turn off by. Your. Aren't that's fine. Those perfect. No, thank you. I am drinking. Vodka Cherry and pink lemonade. Chemo sugar people because I don't need to be lit like that. So it That's what I'm drinking. What is everybody else drinking my mom's ears? She doesn't drink, so you know. As? He is here as well and then people on facebook I'm trying to see what you say but I cannot because Oh actually can't imagine a dummy there we go. Figured it out. People on Facebook I too now. Kency you and hear you. Christie Lee with the Canadian. True Crime. PODCAST is also joining us or rather, said hello So Mike's hard lemonade very good. That's what miss as drinking. My mom is drinking flavored water So. Tell me a little bit about you. Sure I'm like. Where do I start? I. Mean My name is Sarah Turney you guys may or may not know me for my sister story. Her name is Alissa. Attorneys witnessing two thousand one when she was seventeen Yeah, I've been on a mission to really get media for her and I started my own podcast, and I've really just kind of jumped into the true crime between the best I can to really help her. The police told me the best chance of getting a resolution for media exposure, so that's where I'm at what I'm doing. Yeah, and there's been some I. saw somebody post about PHOENIX PD on your on your or saying something like that or they run into games. What's that about? Yeah, so I have like a assorted. Hill with. No it's true it's true. It is love hate. Them so much, but yeah, I mean it's. It's not wonderful. particularly from my twitter basically right now like police are answering my questions. Turning my emails and this happens every once in a while. Like the last time it happened, they had to send like eight emails over like two months to get to get a a meeting with that. Have to do that. I will like I I. I literally twitter. I put all of our emails on there. And then all of a sudden I had a meeting so like it's not the preferred method I would order to keep it private, and just email them, and then be respectful and answer my question I. Say sorry. We can't answer that. We're just anything Yeah, so on twitter, I kind of called them out as I have to do occasionally. Yeah, and then they're like crap. This is bad media exposure so. Let's talk there. They have the chance to turn it around. So that's yeah. So, can you see the chat on your end, or can you not yeah so I can see okay awesome, just making sure because I don't want to read to you if you can read yourself. I can remember because trained detective. I love it. Why complain about the police one time? They were giving information to and made the complaint. What happens, is they call you and they're like. So, what's your complaining about? Let's talk about it and told the gentleman which he's not a detective. On the case, it's always like a random person. Are you trained detective man. Are you active? Are you adrain detective and I was like what the Hell is going on. Now. Detective has become my thing, which is what I think? Liz Is referencing there. That's Hilarious in my background. Yes I saw that I was like amazing I. Love it I like I, said I love a controversial. Queen you now. Favorite. Yes so I know obviously whenever people bring you on. It's truly to focus on Elissa which is so great I. I think I like you a lot. I don't know if you know Kristen WHO's Brandy Meyer sister? Yeah so you guys are very similar in that sense that lake you fight so hard for your siblings, and it's something that like I can relate to terms of if I had something like this happen. Nonstop it what it would be like I would use every platform that I could, but your story is so interesting because you were initially kind of backing up your dad right? And then there was something that flipped on that and I. I get that because I had an abusive father growing up and everything like that so. I had to kind of deal with the fact like I loved him when I was little, and then as I grew up and realized like. Oh, you're kind of terrible as a person. And you have to kind of reconcile those feelings of feeling like you've betrayed your family, my mom in particular by like liking hammer, loving him and stuff like that and. I how do you deal with that? Like? How do you reconcile that? Still because I still even have little twinges of guilt every now and then you get those random memories that pop up where you're like. Wow, I feel like a piece of shit for you know thinking. That are feeling that way. So how'd he? You kind of manage that within yourself? Yeah I mean it's hard I'm not gonna say it's perfect in that I can forget about him completely, because that's not the truth right there and events that happen in your life where you want your parents there. No matter how terrible they are. At least you think about it right, you think what would. What would you like if this parent was here? But in another sense like for me, it's very black and white. Because Elissa was a mom to me so like in my mind, this man probably took away most of the important people in my life so I feel very fortunate, and then I can kind of separate it and then I do see it so black and white, and then I was able to kind of flip that switch, and a big part of that was speaking to him about all these things in confronting him with that was huge when in person and he said all these horrendous. All these horrendous things about Eliza it. It was very clear in my mind at that point that there was no sympathy or love on his end and I kind of felt like free that yields had lifted like I don't need to worry about. This may end because hasn't worried about me since I was eight years old or something I. Find that disparities so crazy because I was like. How does it go from a wanting? To willingly adopted child that is not his biologically. To Not caring that, his biological child is out doing the things that he was concerned about and to me, I, don't know it's so. It's gross to think about but I am like. was he like jealous and stuff like that like he didn't want her around these people, or was it.
"turney" Discussed on True Consequences
"It was it was like over a year ago. And I'm like Oh big case update you know. I can't wait to tell you guys because they told me. And they said you know It'll be two weeks while we'll know in two weeks and it's been and over a year now so during that year I got to that six month point And this is last year before I started the podcast and I'm like I can't. I'm begging people to cover this like. Nobody is going to care about this as much as me. I was getting frustrated that nobody had the same passion as me. People that could have affected change. Change in this case and I was highly encouraged to start my own podcast. And so that's a big reason of. Why did it like what bigger push than for me to get yet? You know the case file which is thousands of documents thousands of documents and really put it all out there because I started reading through them and the the crap crap. That happened is unbelievable. Like the things that my dad said the things that the police to the fact that the FBI came into this case twice and asked why this wasn't being investigated vessel as a homicide. These are things that have never been explored So yeah I mean as much as I was out there you know pounding the pavement asking everyone to cover this case. Ah I really just realized I have to get this into my own hands and and go crazy on this and expose how insane it is. Because I can't expect you know someone else else to come in and put it on the line. You know what I'm doing is is a little risky it. It really hasn't been done before. I'm not outright accusing in my father. But I am pointing all evidence in his direction and laying it out but I. I don't think people understand how natural that is In terms of going through the case hey style like it all just points to wonder action so I do try to really rain. That in But Yeah I realized that if anyone was going to do it and make this happen and cause the biggest noise about it. It had to be me so hopefully it's working. I don't know if it's working with the police department and I don't know if it's working with with any of the bad but I think that you are getting some momentum at least you know from from the Internet for lack of a better word and some awareness which I think is huge has phoenix police. Communicated with you at all since last year. Oh Yeah Yeah we talk all the time Because because I'm always asking them extra questions or requesting documents or records And you know we do communicate about that case update and I'm always asking what's going on with it and There's been a little bit of movement there but nothing definite yet unfortunately the no we communicate all the time. It's it's insane so I don't think we we we flat out said this but maybe we did so. I think that it's your belief in and probably a lot of people believe that. Eliza is dead Ed and that it's as a result of probably some malicious intent from your father or militias action from your father. Can you talk a little bit. About what what those suspicions are that you have. I want you to give away too much. Am I know you still have more episodes of your show coming out but Anything that you WANNA share from that perspective with my listeners. In in effort to be fair there will be an entire theories episode on the PODCAST. where I go over everything right every type of theory that I can think of an asked people other other theories because I want to explore it like I don't think people understand like I don't want this to be my dad like this isn't option number one for me I would love if at the end. It wasn't him that would be amazing to not lose to people in my life But yeah unfortunately when you look at all the circumstance and you know history of my father's behavior you're in how what he did in. The past is very similar to what we all think happened to. A lot of people think happened to Elissa. It just makes the most sense And of course the the police believe this to there's there's no shortage of authorities really believing this And everyone the family as well. I was the last of all the kids to believe this. You know when I told my brothers they were kind of like. Yeah you know. We just didn't want to tell you I'm so much younger. I can't blame them Yeah the evidence really does point to that he was most likely involved. There's a few different reasons for that. Right we know that the note doesn't make a ton of sense. We know that a lot of evidence that should be there to defend. His Innocence. Is is missing. I if you watched all eight hours of this surveillance tape you have Avila's last day then handed overseas and clear yourself Yeah just just there's so much of that And of course you know. He's made statements. Like come to the deathbed. And I'll give you all the honest answers you WanNa hear. And he's offered to Give a complete confession Russian if the state agrees to give him lethal injection within ten days so really really indicative of being guilty in my mind But but yeah I think that even it being on the last day of school is very curious. you know when when children go missing today and they're in a school. You often find the Holden Assembly or at least acknowledge it to some point right. They'll say you know we understand that your classmate is missing. These resources are available to you if you need to talk And with listen Ghana. Last Day of school there is no room for that you know I. It ensured that no one was looking for her that no one was asking why she wasn't attending the tax class and he gave pretty much all summer for people to kind of forget about her. You know you're gonNA notice a lot. More of a classmates gone in the middle of the year versus not seeing them. After the summer. You know everybody loses touch over the summer just kind of what happens But Yeah I think that he picked her up out of early out of school early that day like he had in the past asked. I think that he went to sexually abuse her like he had in the past And that something went wrong or that. It was his plan all along. I do lean lean towards it was premeditated because of the no rate we. We have this note that we know wasn't all written on the same day which means it was somewhere before it will before it was left by. I heard whether that was in our fathers possession and he got pissed or I don't know But Yeah I think between the note and it being in the last day of the school. I think that this was very much planned Again I can't tell you if it was like something he had in the back of his mind and ready for when she was going to act up or piece he specifically was ready to do it that day but definitely premeditated And in terms of like you know what he did with the body. It's so hard to tell you know. You know like New Mexico. Dirt is very similar to Arizona. Dirty I would have to say it's dry and firm and packed and almost impossible to dig. It sounds the forest where you can like dig with your hands or whatever like even if I clawed for my life at the ground with my nails you would get almost nothing up you know in this desert desert ground. It's just so hard so there would have had to been a whole or there would have had been some type of digging equipment or multiple people not even just two people. I mean even without turnaround. That'd be a hard task to dig a hole in four or five hours Bhai yourself or even with two people out in the desert So yeah I think that had some of the curious spots. Are you know there was a mall near us about a mile away being developed meaning that I really want to get the building schedule. They will not respond to me which it's like granted. Yeah you don't WanNa be the mall like the dead body under it or whatever so I understand why that's not a smart marketing play But Yeah I would love to know what holes goals were open at the time because the way that these construction sites go is my understanding from my limited. Research is What they do is they use ground penetrating radar before they dig because they want to make sure that they're not hitting power lines or you know sewer pipes or whatever But once they dig. That's it so once there's an empty hole so anything can be put in there for cement to go on top of it they're not gonNA check again In addition to that you know my father also made dozens of phone calls about a specific area the of land in northern Arizona. I mean not to northern but I'm north of where we lived. There was being annexed by the city. He made all these calls wondering what was going on. It it was it being developed was being dug So yeah I think it's really curious but yeah overall I do lean towards That my father probably had something to do with it and that he had been planning it for at least sometime I think your point. It makes a Lotta sense you look for some place where there was already a a giant hole in the ground Especially for the sake of time and I think that those hours where he was unaccounted for from time he picked up Elissa and the time he picked you up could have been sufficient amount of time to do what he needed to do. If this was the case and you alluded to the fact that a lot of what you suspect him would elicit happened to her. Her had happened before with other members of of the family or extended family He's He'd been known for you. Know sexually abusing people near him so that it's not far off to say that this could have been all connected to that absolutely What can my listeners do to help support your cause? Yeah I mean first and foremost just share her story. I wish that there was magic recipe. That would make the police you something but it's just that slow build of pressure so please share this podcast. Share your favorite piece of content with whatever it is to share her story and talk about her Yeah I mean I have things like a go fund me for billboards and I have a patriotic I have emerged store and all that which is helpful but religious. Just share it. Just get the word out. I need the whole world screaming about this and I needed to happen fast. Oh please share well. Hopefully this help I definitely I would love to be as helpful as possible with you so I'm always happy to re tweet you and share everything I I'm heartbroken by the story and I hope we can. We can get some justice for her. Hopefully you can move onto maybe justice for other people or whatever you need to do with your life No pressure there. But let's start with justice for Elissa for sure I know that's a Hashtag as well. HASHTAG JUSTICE FOR ELISSA. So if you're listening to this and you want to share information about the case you WanNa get people informed about the case There's a lot of other crossover episodes on other podcasts. As well that you can listen to you just type in Sarah Attorney into your podcast catcher and you'll find I'm sure tons of episodes about her So by all means please share share share her story. And let's let's get the word out. We're not too far from Phoenix. So I'm sure there's a lot of people in New Mexico with connections in Arizona. I know I have some so yes please anything else. You WanNa say or anything else you want to share before we wrap this up No just thank you so much for listening to elicit story. I appreciate it it really does mean the world to me that people care and that's amazing you're amazing for carrying about people who are missing or You know murdered or don't have justice so thank you thank you Sarah. Thanks again for listening to to consequences. Follow us on social media on instagram and facebook at true consequences pod. Hello and on twitter at true cons pod. True consequences is hosted written and produced by me. Your host Eric Eric Carter London. Thanks for listening and stay safe New Mexico..
Ronan Farrow says 'close to 50' potential Weinstein jurors were sent home for reading his 'Catch and Kill'
"This week Jury selection started for the trial of Harvey Weinstein. He's as of course this formerly super successful Hollywood producer who was accused of decades of sexual abuse more than eighty women have come forward accusing him of things. The story broke as you remember. This is kind of the beginning of the METOO movement in October of two thousand seventeen in the New York Times and the New Yorker so harvey was finally finally charged with sex crimes in New York in May of twenty eighteen. So that in and of itself is about a year and a half ago I'm not going to get into the charges. But they're horrible So yeah jury. Selection started this week and the other thing that also happened. This week is that new charges were put against him in Los Angeles so now. He's facing the possibility of two criminal trials. Meanwhile he just settled a civil suit a couple of weeks ago. So it's just all all of this tumult around you know he's very horrible allegations and it's really one of the only you know men who is going through the criminal criminal justice process in terms of these accusations. Yeah and we should underline eighty women. You said Yeah Zero Eight zero and then we have these two. You know criminal trials now the one in New York they mentioned we have two women pressing charges one is an unidentified there and even in La both of the women are unidentified in those court documents. So it's also just a big story in terms of you know what it takes to come forward yet another interesting aspect during jury selection. Is You know the idea of trying to find an impartial jury. In these cases right I mean not only are they trying to find people who don't know a whole lot about the story which at this point is extremely difficult Mac that it's been to more than two years and the stories were huge but also you know attorneys are concerned about the possibility of having an impartial. Jury when you know one in and five women have been raped in her life rate and just the idea of even if she isn't super familiar with the Weinstein story just dealing with sexual assault in her life of either herself or someone she knows like could also create someone who is partial in one way or another Ronan Farrow tweeted on Thursday night that he is heard the fifty potential jurors fifty have been released so far we all read his book right and killed and so it's weird. The only thing I will add is that hearing the stories of these women. Yeah you're not only struck by their ultimate bravery in coming forward at great risk in themselves but just the endless amounts of people all right protected. Harvey Weinstein this. Systemic cover-ups over a decade can't get horrifying. It's yeah and it's extraordinary. How much much in how pervasive that was among everybody police and and colleague Turney everybody? Yeah Yeah I want to ask this question about impartial impartial jury and jury of our peers because when we talk when we are supposed to be having our be tried before a jury of our peers so many of our peers have have been victims of sexual harassment or sexual assault and so is it. What does impartiality really mean here? If you're throwing out all of the folks who might have been affected by crimes it's like this that gets even bigger question around. Just the idea of Lake is the crew. Does the criminal justice system work in these cases you know and you look at the fact act that this settlement came out earlier this month where women at least got some money out of it. I mean. Obviously that doesn't result in Weinstein actually going to jail which I would imagine. Imagine is extremely important to a lot of these victims but yeah I mean I don't know I don't know how you get an impartial
"turney" Discussed on 760 KFMB Radio
"This whole. Setup doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Does it? Then you have the legal analysts on TV, who most of them should be. Charged with legal malpractice. They're so stupid. They actually think they know something by what other credentials. State trial judge former federal prosecutor, what else defense counsel, how many actually been involved in these matters like I have. Three different independent counsel investigations. I mean it's to listen to these people. Before I went on this program on Hannity show waving around these, these two memos for the department of Justice, people on TV. We're going on about the indictment of Donald Trump. If he subpoenaed appear before the grand jury, if he doesn't appear. Well, they can charge him and on and on. So no, they can't. The can't. Why can't they the constitution doesn't prevent it? No. But the department of Justice prevented department of Justice's now. Can't have rogue. Prosecutors can you imagine having a ninety US attorneys and thousands and thousands of system? United States attorneys, each one of them deciding to investigate a president or some percentage of them. Turney sitting in exist, they don't show me in the constitution where they exist. I love the so-called Pearson purist in the least. But the constitution doesn't say you can't indicted sitting president, while the constitution doesn't even say the US attorney's offices constitution doesn't even say the district courts are appellate courts..
Nonstick chemicals that stick around and detecting ear infections with smartphones
"Hello. This Welcomes the science podcast for may seventeenth two thousand nineteen. I'm Sarah Crespi this week show Meghan. Cantwell talks with science writer Saratova's about a nonstick chemical that sticks around in groundwater, and I talk with sham. Ota about his science translational medicine paper on using a smartphone. So listen for ear infections. I'm here with Sarah helps who wrote this week's feature to talk about how a small group of citizens in Rockford Michigan uncovered groundwater contamination in their town. And with the greater implications of this discovery are thinks much joining me. Sarah, thanks for having me, Meghan, of course. So could you talk about what prompted these citizens to investigate whether the shoe company factory in their town? Wolverine worldwide had contaminated their water in two thousand and nine wolverine worldwide announced that they would be closing their tannery, which had been inoperational for over a century. And the citizens were requesting the company I do a comprehensive environmental assessment of the property before the demolition. They knew from other tannery closures that Henry's often use hazardous substances when they're transforming rawhide. Hides into leather. And so they wanted to be sure that those same substances had not been sort of left behind on the tannery grounds. They were told that because there was no evidence of contamination on the property, that there was really essentially, no way require that testing be done. Meanwhile, will Verena had said there was no known contamination on the property. They asked the city to assess the site, but they did not want to instead they went and got the help of a scientist and launched their own investigation. What did they find from this, they uncovered helped uncover some of the highest levels of Pecos contamination in drinking water wells anywhere in the country and after many years of trying to get the company to test, the tannery grounds discovered that the tannery grounds are also contaminated with pitas, what exactly is p fasten? How long is this chemical been in production p bosses are a class of chemical? Nls known as per in Pali fluoro- alkyl substances. They were first synthesized by American chemists in the nineteen thirties and forties and their salient chemical feature is that they have a carbon fluorine bond, and that's among the strongest of all chemical bonds. It doesn't degrade naturally an environment that can be very useful for some products at lens durability. And also, these compounds can repel water and oil and stains, and so they're widely used in products, such as firefighting foams, nonstick, coatings, carpets, food, packaging, even dental floss some dental floss, it was discovered recently, there are over four thousand of these compounds. But the two most widely studied are called PF OA sometimes referred to as PICO and PFOS those two are no longer in production in the US. What are the impacts of these? Goes on human health were still looking into that. There was a massive epidemiological study called the seat health project, fat looked at people exposed in West Virginia and Ohio, they were exposed to fella, and their drinking water. And in that project what they found was a probable link to six conditions that included high cholesterol, all sort of colitis by ROY disease, stickler cancer, kidney, cancer, and pregnancy induced, hypertension initially, a lot of the Pecos research, focused on these communities, where there had been this high level of exposure, more recent studies, have started looking at the general population, and I think that that's where this gets really interesting because what they're starting to find is that studies are suggesting that even people exposed to what might be referred to his background levels of p fusses show, negative health effects, most interestingly and may be most concerning laid. Some of these negative effects are on the developing fetus babies. So researchers are saying that it can affect, for example, the immune system and these populations. Is there a standard level for what's considered a dangerous p fast level or is that something that's still also being determined? That is very much being determined and a believe it was two thousand and nine the EPA established a health advisory level of six hundred parts per trillion of PF. Oh. A and PFOS combined drinking water. And then in twenty sixteen. They dropped that level significantly to seventy parts per trillion and that in twenty eighteen a branch of the CDC came out with a new study suggesting Twenty-one parts per trillion for PF away and fourteen parts per trillion for PFOS, and then you have some researchers one at Harvard saying one part petroleum is where that level should be. So there's a lad of conversation around. What is a protective level in drinking water, this investigation in the small town has also prompted other areas to look into what their p Fasces levels are, and what has this unveiled one of the interesting consequences of the concerned, citizens work is that shortly after the state of Michigan launched what I believe is the most comprehensive statewide survey searching for pizzas, and they found is that here in Michigan. Nearly one point four million residents are drinking water from orces, contaminated with pitas. It's also showing up and things like foam, that's on our rivers. And so there have been a number of advisories. Do not eat befo. Don't touch the phone fish advisories, dear advisories. It's really extensive ubiquitous exposure to these compounds. And then other states also. Oh, are just starting to look, but nobody has looked quite as comprehensively as the state of Michigan has right. It interesting that all these investigations are being prompted but this also isn't the first time that p asses have been under investigation happened several decades ago as well. Right. Are you referring to the DuPont trial? Yeah. Sometime around nineteen ninety nine early two thousands a cattle farmer in West Virginia suspected that something was going on. Some of his farm land had been purchased by DuPont and not long after that his cattle died, and he wasn't able to get much help locally. And so he ended up going to a Cincinnati-based Turney who sued the company and in the process of that he was able to obtain a lot of internal documents from DuPont. And what he found in those documents was that both DuPont, and three who. Had been making pieces as well. Head Ben documenting negative health effects from exposure, experienced by humans and animals, and that they hadn't done enough to make this available to the PA, for example. And so the attorneys sent these documents to the EPA, and subsequently DuPont, was fined, and three m was fined believe a year later, was around that time that both companies agreed to voluntarily phase out PF away and PFOS. So when they phased them out, they replace them with a different chemical is this one actually safer persists lessen the environment. Well, that is a matter of conversation. They replaced PF away and PFOS those two compounds are known as long chain pieces. They replace them with shorter chain passes. So molecules with fewer carbons and. What we do know is that those carbons don't bio accumulate the same way as the longer chain compounds. And for that reason, there's an assumption out there that these are safer, but there are studies, just starting this is just starting to be studied suggesting that this might not be the case and the national toxicology program. For example, is in the process of starting study of believe it's one hundred twenty five of these lesser known. Short chain compounds to see if they really are safer than the longer chain compounds after this, this fine that they received were their cleanup efforts, or is there, a way to clean up these P asses from water supplies. What we know is that you can use something called granular activated carbon to filter out in particular longer chain passes, so PF away, and PFOS from drinking water, however. That approach. It has variable success with the shorter chain passes which can sometimes break through the filter and they can break through more quickly. So one of the things that water systems are starting to look at is using perhaps a combination of granular activated. Carbon with reverse osmosis, which is a little bit more effective at filtering out short chain passes. All of this though is very expensive. And so that has really put especially some of these smaller municipalities in a tough spot, and others Superfund cleanup sites that kind of thing is there any sort of fund that these local communities can tap into that ole pay for this remediation, one of the things is that because pizza's is not as needed as a hazardous substance. It doesn't qualify as far as I know for cleanup funds through Superfund now, some states are starting to pass their own legislation. In New York, for example, does designate FOSS as a hazardous substance so you can get funding through there. And then the other thing that states are starting to do is actually sue the manufacturers to try and recuperate some of the costs of updating their drinking water systems. Would you say this whole investigation all across the country is still kind of the first step of finding where these sites are? And then the next step of cleanup is still a little bit murkier. Yes. That's very true. Historically are understanding of pizzas and exposure has really been concentrated in these areas around particular very few limited number of military, bases, and also communities that are near manufacturing facilities, and what we're starting to find now is, especially as we have the tools to detect passes at lower levels were finding that these are in drinking water supplies and places, people would never have suspected. But not everybody is looking. And so that's one of the things that I think different states, and different municipalities will be grappling with for years to come. Thank you so much. Sarah. Yes, thank you. Sarah helps is a freelance, writer and senior editor at undock. You can find a link to her story at signs MAG dot org slash podcasts. Stay tuned for an interview with Shaam Gula KOTA on using phones to listen to erections.
GOP Challenges Jerry Nadler's Ability to 'Handle the Gavel'
"To Capitol Hill where Republican Kevin McCarthy goes after House Judiciary chair democrat, Jerry Nadler USA radio's Timberg reports also minority leader Kevin McCarthy from California addresses Wednesdays, huge issue committee vote to hold attorney general Bill, barring contempt of congress during his weekly press conference on Thursday, Nadler can't even handle the gavel not only how he dealt with the last committee hearing, it comes into doubt, regardless of what the issue is whether he's capable of even being a chairman but yesterday he even admitted what he sent in a subpoena was not what his intent was. He was asking in a subpoena for Turney general bar to break the law, otherwise he'd hold in contempt of oh by the full house of representatives is expected on the citation next week
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein resigns, effective May 11
"Here, rod Rosenstein, has w Turney rod Rosenstein is resigning has resigned. He has his submitted his resignation letter to the White House is effective may eleventh as soon as we get more information on this. We will give you the the date on that. But again, rod Rosenstein, deputy attorney general rod Rosenstein has put in his resignation
Racers punch ticket to NCAA tournament
"Racer radio in the Murray. State racers upset Belmont seventy seven to sixty five to clinch Bertha the NCAA tournament racers seventeenth overall Turney bid John Moran with a game. High thirty six points in the win rant leading MAURICE state, helping them to the Ohio valley conference championship. He spoke with ESPN's, Brooke Weisbrod on MAURICE state moving on. Team the concert tickets to the dance. For me being able to go back. Great guys, even the coaches staff. You had an incredible season. This morning. Wing shooting in passing. Tonight. Me. D'amoto freedom back. Try to make the right play. Sometimes. Boston. You. All sign on the same day to day later. You've got to take a road trip down to Murray state to watch a game winner. What is it man developed a program with these guys you guys doing it together? Started last year. We came in and. Just going to try to get back to where. Last year championship and this year. Oh, man. So what we just wanted to? So exciting. Wait to celebrate with your teammates. But can you give us a sense of what does he do in this argument? Could come out. We can get one. Rowdy say.
Trump reportedly wanted loyalist to oversee Cohen probe
"The president is denying a New York Times report that he s then attack acting attorney general Matt Whitaker if he could replace the prosecutor investigating Michael Cohen with someone seen as friendly to the administration, and he'd rather really recused himself from the lower case over a routine conflict of interest issue ABC's. Karen Travers is at the White House. Trump continues to push back on a report in the New York Times that says he asked his former acting attorney general Matthew Whitaker to intervene in the investigation into hush money payments bay by Mr. Trump's former personal Turney Michael Cohen the president writing on Twitter Wednesday morning quote. The New York Times reporting is false times reports that late last year. The president asked Whitaker to appoint a potentially sympathetic US attorney to oversee that
Russian mercenaries file lawsuit with international court against PMC organizers
"Eight think that a mercenary would buy his or her very nature except the rough with the smooth when it came to employed them and how they were treated well in Russia. This doesn't seem to be the case the country's private military companies or PM sees for short for some time. Now complained of that treatment, technically, they're legal, but their members sometimes receive medals from the Russian state now, these companies are asking the international criminal court prosecute Russia's PM see organizers for war crimes or to find out more. I'm joined now by the Russian analyst and regular monocle twenty four contributor, Stephen DL. Welcome back to the program. Stephen. One that's a suspected the existence of mercenaries. But I think a lot of people were quite surprised to find out the enormously organized nature of these PM sees tell us about it is quite extraordinary. They've actually been around for very long time in Russia's a very convenient way for the Russian state to be able to send well-trained troops effectively troops. I in they're in these groups, and they have military, but the label them as official truth, but to send them into war zones into places where Russia wants to spread his influence, and then if something goes wrong, the Russian state can stand back to nothing to do with us. Really those. There was an attacker. There's a group known as the Wagner group, which is sort of nickname. That's given to them and. Fifty them were killed in American air strike in Syria early this year, which is that's what kind of blew the lid off the whole story of Russian mercenaries. But it's it's been going on back into Soviet times. In fact, I remember in one thousand nine hundred nine in a club for veterans of the Afghan war meeting. A guy a Russian guy who complained bitterly that he had been given no recognition. No, medals. No pension for his work in the Vietnam war. I looked I said, but hang on Russia's and in the Vietnam war. He said, yes, we were. He said officially we weren't. But I was sent in to to do a job. And when I got injured no one wanted to know. So in fact, is there's quite a long history to this. But in recent times, this has been the case in Ukraine in Syria and Libya in the Central African Republic in particular on the other places. Many of these PM sees is private military companies are actually operating and wear. All they we don't know. Exactly. How many there are? The various places like Ukraine, Syria, Libya, and the Central African Republic has been of particular focus this year. It's a an area it's a troubled Republic, but it's a place that has got diamonds uranium a lot of very expensive national natural resources, which the Russians are very keen on having. So that they'd been active there. One of the things I think which gives us a hint, though, as to how big this station is is the fact that this appealed the to the international criminal court, which is this whole thing is bizarre therapy, lettering, officially exist, the Russian constitution, but they're appealing. We know they exist Russians know they exist. But this appeal has been supported by delegates from fifty two regions of Russia now Russia's divided into eighty five calls subjects some of very big. So wasn't quite small. But that means that's more than half, the the the areas of the country with her half these mercenaries. So it it suggests certainly thousands of of men tends to be tends to be men, and maybe a few women involved. But it tends to be men Turney thousands of them in probably hundreds of organizations who've been parachuted in or sending in one way or another these various spots in recent years, and there's no sign of. Stopping how do they actually approach the international criminal court in this context? Given the fact that they don't probably have the assist officials standing that might be necessary, namely, officially they don't actually exist.
Report: Don McGahn has been cooperating "extensively" in special counsel probe
"That the White House is Turney as cooperated extensively. With special, counsel Robert, Muller's probe ABC's Meredith McGraw is traveling with the president in New Jersey hasn't. Trump tweeted quote I allowed White House counsel Don Mcgann and all other requested members of the White House staff to fully cooperate. With special counsel the New York Times first reported that again is talking to Muller's team in an effort to avoid the same fate is. President Nixon's, attorney John dean who flipped on Nixon during Watergate was charged with obstruction of Justice and spend four. Months in prison dean responded to the news by tweeting Mcgann, is doing,
Frederick vigil honors slain Colorado mom Shanann Watts and her daughters
"Disgusting story out of, Colorado a husband of a pregnant woman who went on the. Air we have some audio about two seconds went on the. Air as I please help me find my wife and two. Daughters my pregnant wife husband a pregnant woman who went missing with her two daughters arrested after confessing to killing them and dumping their bodies hours after making this. Plea, no I wasn't gonna kiss them the bed. Tonight it. Was that's why last night it was. Horrible you're out? There Come back like if somebody hazardous. Please, bring her back I need to see everybody. Knew everybody. Again this house is not complete with. Without anybody here That. Makes me. Sad is horrible to, me and Mike has. Regular official Turney Lisa Lanier as well. We, have some questions for her name is Chris watts They were from North Carolina have. Been in Colorado for. A little bit of time he's thirty three years old Is, been, taking the custody and, he last saw his wife Shannon on Monday at five fifteen an and. He said well we had a, disagreement then I went to work and, I came home and they weren't here he was calling it a gap referring to it as an emotional conversation but he didn't really go into any detail about what it was about who was angry if it was the guy angry at his wife or. If. It was the white angry at the husband and then his wife fifteen weeks pregnant with their third child yeah and then now we know that. He killed his daughter Bella who's. Four and Celeste who's three, and they are the cutest, kids, you'll ever see and of course his poor wife so whatever the argument wise whatever the emotional conversation wise I I read that he really wanted his wife. To, suffer, and he murdered their two children and made sure that his wife knew so he murdered their children I oh my God. Made sure that his wife New and then murdered his wife and then acted as if nothing had happened to just a typical day and then all of a sudden your wife your pregnant wife and. Your. Two beautiful daughters go missing and you make a plea to the FBI saying I don't really know what happened yeah apparently went to work while. After no he killed his family. And then bury adopt their, body somewhere seriously killed your, whole, world in your life now let's go to work I mean talking about a
Matt Lauer Has Agreed to Pay Annette Roque $20 Million in Divorce Settlement, Source Says
"But the lead story has to. Do with former today show co host Matt Lauer, tell us what's going on with him because we haven't heard too much about, him since this how Shocking shocking allegations that happened last. Fall Very very exciting news and thank you, again for having me on your. Show Frankie it all of Frankie's listener so Matt Lauer has agreed to pay his ex wife, up to twenty. Million dollars a divorce which is, nutty according to the New York Post Matt Lauer is bending over backwards to, give his soon to be ex wife everything she wants. In her divorce and they were divorced pardon me including a multimillion dollar payout because he feels so guilty for cheating with multiple women at work according to his, friends or going to various friends lower who was axed by NBC bosses in November of last year for a string of inappropriate affairs has already agreed to pay her met nearly for twenty years up, to twenty, million page six revealed based of? Course, is part of the New York yeah Yeah This is a lot I am. Shot, yeah a lot of, money an awful lot of. Money he must have it. Though Absolutely the. Couple is now getting along pretty well. They're, both spending time in, twelve bedroom Hamptons house which. Is which is not